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(upbeat electronic music)
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(camera whirring)
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(cat meowing)
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(static buzzing)
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- [Man] Okay, John.
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Can you hear me all right?
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- Yes, sir.
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- [Man] I'll be talking
to you over this intercom
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when I'm out here.
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I'm going to pump up that cuff now.
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_ Qkay.
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- [Man] The test is about to begin.
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Is your first name John?
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- Yes.
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- [Man] During the first
53 years of your life,
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did you ever do anything
dishonest, illegal, or immoral?
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- Yes.
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- [Man] Before 1981, did you ever engage
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in an improper business practice
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or put false information
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on an official form or document?
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- Yes.
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- [Man] Before age 54,
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did you ever cheat someone
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or take advantage of
anyone in a business deal?
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- [Man] Yes, I would say.
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- [Man] Okay, John,
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how was it that time,
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a little nervous?
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- Well, like, when you get
into those general questions,
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you start thinking back
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about bad used cars you sold people--
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- Oh, yeah.
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- About the maybe the time you--
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- [Man] Yeah, I noticed
that you answered false--
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- Committed a little adultery.
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You know, I must say
that if you, it really--
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- [Man] Causes you to think back.
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Well, you go through your whole life.
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(upbeat electronic music)
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- [Man] John DeLorean is one
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of the maverick rogues of his day,
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and there are very few
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of those guys around today.
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- [Man] He was a dreamer.
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He wanted to push things
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beyond where other people had taken them,
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and in a way that's a marvelous
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and appealing characteristic,
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but it's also extremely dangerous.
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- [Man] John DeLorean was a winner,
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a loser, a champion,
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a relentless fool.
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This guy was the
quintessential leading man
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that Hollywood producers dream of,
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and he was real.
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- I've always wondered why a feature film
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hasn't been made of John's life.
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1 think it'd be a great movie.
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- Obviously I'd had this dream.
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I wanted to build this automobile company.
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Everybody said it's inconceivable
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that any new automobile
company could survive.
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- I'm always interested in the story
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of the quintessential outsider,
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full of ambition and hope,
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and works his way up
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and ascends to the position he was in.
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- He had it all,
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his own auto empire,
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a beautiful wife, children.
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He was a golden boy.
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- [David] And, of
course, his colossal fall
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is almost Shakespearean.
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- [Man] John DeLorean, who gave
up a shot at the presidency
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of General Motors to build
his own futuristic sports car,
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is in jail this morning.
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- The thing that's remarkable
about DeLorean's story
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is that it has all of these
incredibly powerful elements.
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It's got a marvelous celebrity couple.
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It's got drugs.
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It's got drug dealing.
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It's got FBI guys.
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It's got this incredible
political backdrop.
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It's the sort of story that's,
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if it hadn't happened,
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you wouldn't dare to make it up.
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- The interesting thing
is all of a sudden now
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a number of people have been back at me
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wanting to do a movie of my life.
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- It had always seemed to be a story
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that had been around Hollywood
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as early as probably the early '80s.
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- [Man] Often good ideas
produce several films
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at the same time.
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With John DeLorean,
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I think it was taken to a new level.
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- Every single one of these movies
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had different people from John's life,
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different family members,
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different underlying material,
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which made it this fascinating race
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to get the movie made
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because each one would have been
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a decidedly different story.
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- Still to this day,
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not one's been made yet.
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- Every so often you hear,
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"Oh, somebody's gonna make
a movie about DeLorean.
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"Somebody's gonna make
a movie about DeLorean."
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Knock on wood, it'll happen,
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'cause I think it could be great.
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- He was this kind of
chameleon like figure
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who could appear one thing to one person
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and another thing totally
to a different person,
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and I think in a way,
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that's why so many scripts
have been written about him
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because he is open to interpretation.
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- You get the impression that
he is either a beleaguered man
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who was discredited and manipulated
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by big business in this country,
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or he was the greatest conman
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to ever come down the pike.
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(dramatic instrumental music)
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We have an opportunity this
morning to visit with him.
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Would you welcome Mr. John DeLorean?
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(audience applauding)
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(upbeat instrumental music)
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- You shoot him for your purposes
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over the arc of how many years?
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He ages in the piece.
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- [Man] Mostly early '70s to early '80s--
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- [Woman] To early '80s.
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- [Alec] Right, so there's a spread,
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and he ages during that time.
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- [Man] Yeah, that's--
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- And 1 want to see how his behavior ages.
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I need to see clips that
are a range of that.
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- And driving you all this time
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was this desperate need
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to make this car thing go.
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- My pride is so intense
that nothing in the world
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would let me let this business,
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this car with my name on it, go down.
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- That's the corner of his eye.
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You draw a straight line up the brow
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overlaps the corner of the eye.
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- We“, 1 think it's got
to come in a tittie bit.
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- It's got to come over?
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- Yeah.
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- [John] Anybody (mumbling).
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- [Woman] All right, the
involvement with cocaine.
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Talk about that--
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- [John] Well, it's a peculiar thing
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because, you know, in my life,
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1 have never, ever seen cocaine,
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touched cocaine, used cocaine,
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or been in the presence of anybody--
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- All the time I've
looked at DeLorean before,
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I thought, where is he manipulating,
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and where are the peeks
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behind the curtain of who he really is?
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And then when you play the person,
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you say to yourself,
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well, forget about me looking at DeLorean
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as a viewer on a TV show
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and saying, what's behind
the curtain with him?
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When you start to play him,
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Yo" 9°, "0, no, no, no, no, no.
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He's not guilty of anything.
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He didn't do anything.
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In fact, it's the opposite.
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He's a hero in his mind.
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He's a hero,
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and you have to play that.
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You have to play who he thinks he is,
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and you present him as who
he thinks he is to the world,
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and you let the audience
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make up their mind.
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- [Woman] And that you suddenly thought
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you were involved with the mob
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and you were frightened
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for your life and your children's lives--
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- [John] Really what happened--
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- Let me just show my wife.
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She just thinks it's funny.
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She thinks this whole thing.
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She's like, "Alec, like I can't believe
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"this is what they,
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"they pay you to do this."
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- Oh, God.
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(laughing)
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Wait, what are you doing?
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You're doing a movie?
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- We do re-enactment
footage of DeLorean's drama,
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his caper, his escapades,
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and shoot them as a movie
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and cut re-enactment footage
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into documentary footage
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of a movie about DeLorean
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and what he did and what he went through,
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and the good news is,
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1 don't have to bother with any of that.
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They do.
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I'm gonna just go put the make up on
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and go try to be DeLorean.
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(gentle instrumental music)
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- For John DeLorean,
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growing up in Detroit,
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every kid's dream was to
go into the auto industry.
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- One thing you have to
understand about John DeLorean
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is he was a brilliant engineer,
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and so to start with,
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he had some really good instincts,
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and he had great talent.
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- DeLorean thrived in the car
business first at Packard,
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for a short while at Chrysler,
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and somebody sought him
out at General Motors
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and offered him his
choice of five divisions.
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- He took on Pontiac,
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which was the old ladies'
division at the time,
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and it was really the place
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where he could shine the most.
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- [Man] General Manager,
Mr. John Z. DeLorean.
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(audience applauding)
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- In those days, the late '50s
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and early '60s at GM,
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Pontiac particularly
was exciting to be there
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because they were almost
ready to be dropped,
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and of course that was the
kind of thing that gave you
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the incentive to come up
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with new ideas and make them happen.
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- And 1 started as a very
unsophisticated young engineer,
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and 1 was given an opportunity
to attain a success
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in a business world far beyond anything
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I had ever imagined I was capable of.
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- You know, this was a special guy
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who was gonna change the industry forever
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and truly become a legend at the company.
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- [Man] Scene two, alpha, take three.
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(mumbling)
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Marker.
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- The story on the GTO is
that we were about ready
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to do a brand new line,
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and we had the '64 Tempest to be
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in the garage there with John
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and a couple other guys.
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' [John] Hey, Bill.
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- John, you heading home?
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- Yeah, 1 was about to.
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Wanted to stop by and see
how you were coming along.
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- Well, I think she's about as good
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as we're gonna get her.
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He would encourage everybody
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to do something new and different.
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- Was hoping maybe we'd have something,
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1 don't know, sexier?
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- You mean sportier?
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- Yeah, more high performance, you know?
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- Well, our bigger 389 engine
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has the exact same dimensions
as the 326 in here,
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so we could swap that out, no problem.
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- Well, how would the car
handle the extra power?
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- That's the thing.
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Have to fit the appropriate
transmission and rear axle,
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but we do that,
267
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it'd definitely be sexier, John.
268
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Shoot, we could even run this in NASCAR.
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- 1 say we do it.
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- Really?
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- Yeah, absolutely.
272
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- But then what?
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You think you can actually sell it?
274
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- You let me worry about that, Bill.
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(upbeat instrumental music)
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(brakes squealing)
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- [John] 1 was just gonna drive
it back and forth to work,
278
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and I had a marvelous time with it,
279
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and 1 found that every time
280
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I lent it to somebody
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to use for a day or two,
282
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I couldn't get it back,
283
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and I said, "Well, there may be a market
284
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"for something like that."
285
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- What the hell is this?
286
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That's the GTO.
287
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It stands for Gran Turismo Omologato,
288
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which I think is Italian for fast as hell,
289
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but it'll beat every car
290
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on a track or American street,
291
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and it's still a Pontiac.
292
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- Hold on a second.
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Turn that off.
294
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The 14th floor is never
gonna go for putting
295
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such a large engine in such a small frame.
296
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- Well, GM forbade putting
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a so called big block beyond,
298
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I believe, 350 cubic inches
in a medium size car.
299
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- The guys upstairs approve this?
300
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- 1 don't need their approval.
301
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- It's a new product, John.
302
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All new products need
upper management approval.
303
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- [Man] And John was interesting.
304
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He loved really just figuring out ways
305
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to bend the rules as much as possible.
306
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- But it's not a new product.
307
00:11:04,372 --> 00:11:06,158
It's an options package on the new Tempest
308
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and one that puts a real
tiger under the hood.
309
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- It's manipulative.
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- It's marketing.
311
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- Pontiac is primarily the
division for older buyers.
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What are they gonna want with a hot rod?
313
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- We're the division for older buyers
314
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because that's how we view ourselves.
315
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We've got to anticipate
what younger buyers want
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before they even know what they want,
317
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and once they realize it,
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give them this.
319
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- So how many you wanna produce?
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- You're the sales manager.
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You tell me.
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1 was thinking about 30,000.
323
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(laughing)
324
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- You're out of your damn mind.
325
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- John, be reasonable.
326
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- I can't imagine us
selling even close to 5,000,
327
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but let's start with that number,
328
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and let's hope that they
don't rust on the lot.
329
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(upbeat instrumental music)
330
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- At that time, the
sales manager of Pontiac
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thought it was stupid,
332
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and he refused to schedule more
333
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than 1 think about four
or 5,000 for the year.
334
00:12:05,642 --> 00:12:08,054
- [Man] It was an outlaw move.
335
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DeLorean snuck it past the GM watchdogs
336
00:12:11,481 --> 00:12:13,313
by a sort of sleight of hand.
337
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It was just an options package.
338
00:12:15,276 --> 00:12:17,517
- Despite his feeling it wouldn't sell,
339
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I think we sold like
45,000 the first year.
340
00:12:20,698 --> 00:12:24,362
- [Man] What he figured out
before anyone figured it out
341
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was that this exploding youth movement
342
00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:31,498
had interest in cars as something
343
00:12:31,501 --> 00:12:33,037
that would represent
344
00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:35,081
the way they wanted to look to the world.
345
00:12:35,088 --> 00:12:36,795
(tiger growling)
346
00:12:36,798 --> 00:12:38,004
- It's the perfect moment
347
00:12:38,007 --> 00:12:39,623
in which John was able to marry
348
00:12:39,634 --> 00:12:41,671
both his brilliant engineering
349
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as well as his marketing prowess
350
00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,921
to create the muscle car.
351
00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:49,391
- [Man] The muscle car era
really advanced Detroit.
352
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It made money.
353
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It made Pontiac.
354
00:12:51,479 --> 00:12:55,063
It made those three
letters, GTO, legendary.
355
00:12:56,234 --> 00:12:59,397
There's an odd parallel
between the Pontiac GTO
356
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and John Z. DeLorean.
357
00:13:01,239 --> 00:13:03,981
The GTO was a risk taken,
358
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and 1 think it convinced DeLorean
359
00:13:06,077 --> 00:13:09,695
that taking a risk no one else was willing
360
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to step up to and making it work
361
00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:15,288
at all costs was how you did it,
362
00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:18,287
and after you do it once, why stop?
363
00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:21,916
(upbeat instrumental music)
364
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- What 1 see about DeLorean for me,
365
00:13:29,392 --> 00:13:31,099
he took such risks,
366
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and the problem with people
367
00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:33,059
who take risks like that
368
00:13:33,062 --> 00:13:35,224
is that when they win,
369
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when they make their calculated risk,
370
00:13:36,858 --> 00:13:37,848
they become emboldened.
371
00:13:37,859 --> 00:13:39,190
They take more risks,
372
00:13:39,193 --> 00:13:40,900
and then they take risks outside
373
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of their normal sphere.
374
00:13:43,281 --> 00:13:44,146
- Between this and the other,
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00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:47,445
it'll generate about four and a half,
376
00:13:47,452 --> 00:13:49,363
not less than four and a half mil.
377
00:13:50,872 --> 00:13:53,159
- [Alec] Risk taking in
the automotive industry
378
00:13:53,166 --> 00:13:55,282
and risk taking with a bunch
of drug dealers in a hotel
379
00:13:55,293 --> 00:13:56,249
are two different things,
380
00:13:56,252 --> 00:13:59,916
but your confidence in
yourself is very, very high.
381
00:13:59,922 --> 00:14:01,003
You don't make mistakes.
382
00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:02,463
You don't see them coming.
383
00:14:02,467 --> 00:14:03,457
- That's better than gold.
384
00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:06,005
- No, just say it's better than gold.
385
00:14:07,138 --> 00:14:08,674
This stuff weighs more.
386
00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:10,467
Gold weighs more than this.
387
00:14:10,475 --> 00:14:11,636
Gold weighs more than this,
388
00:14:11,642 --> 00:14:12,848
for God's sakes.
389
00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:14,013
- [Man] Yeah, better than gold--
390
00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:14,851
- Better than gold.
391
00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:16,811
Gold weighs more than
this, for God's sakes.
392
00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:19,939
- Hi, John.
393
00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:20,773
Hi, John.
394
00:14:20,777 --> 00:14:21,767
- Hi.
395
00:14:21,778 --> 00:14:23,064
- Jerry West, we're the FBI.
396
00:14:23,071 --> 00:14:25,187
- But in the end, when he's arrested
397
00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:26,859
and he tilts his head back,
398
00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:29,858
and you have a shot hopefully looking down
399
00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:31,030
from the ceiling,
400
00:14:32,038 --> 00:14:33,699
and his head should crane up
401
00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:34,662
and look right up into a thing
402
00:14:34,665 --> 00:14:35,575
and look off camera,
403
00:14:35,583 --> 00:14:36,698
and he's thinking,
404
00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:37,790
and what are you thinking?
405
00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:39,330
We should cut to what he's thinking.
406
00:14:39,337 --> 00:14:40,702
He's worried about his family.
407
00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:43,080
He's worried about losing everything,
408
00:14:43,091 --> 00:14:45,082
and there were like four or five things
409
00:14:45,093 --> 00:14:47,050
if he just made a little adjustment here
410
00:14:47,053 --> 00:14:48,919
and made this decision differently there--
411
00:14:48,930 --> 00:14:49,715
- With the FBI.
412
00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:50,837
- [Alec] All of it would have turned out
413
00:14:50,848 --> 00:14:52,259
completely differently.
414
00:14:52,266 --> 00:14:55,884
(upbeat instrumental music)
415
00:14:57,230 --> 00:14:59,471
- [Man] DeLorean was clearly a fast mover
416
00:14:59,482 --> 00:15:01,894
at GM in the early '70s.
417
00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:03,517
- Whoever makes the most money at GM
418
00:15:03,528 --> 00:15:05,018
is the most important person,
419
00:15:05,029 --> 00:15:07,396
and everything he touched turned to gold,
420
00:15:08,491 --> 00:15:11,404
so by the time John
reaches the 14th floor,
421
00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:13,368
better known as the executive level,
422
00:15:13,371 --> 00:15:15,282
he's in his mid forties.
423
00:15:15,289 --> 00:15:17,200
If he just plays his cards right,
424
00:15:17,208 --> 00:15:20,417
he's poised to be the next
president of General Motors,
425
00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:22,752
the largest corporation in the world.
426
00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:25,042
- [Man] GM was very intentional
427
00:15:25,049 --> 00:15:27,507
on making executives colorless,
428
00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:32,050
and DeLorean was a highly
Technicolor person.
429
00:15:32,056 --> 00:15:33,512
- [Man] He wore open collars.
430
00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:34,972
He wore side burns.
431
00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:37,013
He spent his weekends in California,
432
00:15:37,019 --> 00:15:39,556
and you know what an
evil influence that is.
433
00:15:39,564 --> 00:15:42,773
- [Man] He gets significant
plastic surgery on his face
434
00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:44,937
to give himself a stronger jaw.
435
00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:47,902
He starts weight lifting
and losing weight.
436
00:15:47,905 --> 00:15:49,737
- [Man] He and his first wife separated,
437
00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:53,324
and then he started dating
actresses and models,
438
00:15:53,327 --> 00:15:55,819
women that were a lot younger than him
439
00:15:55,830 --> 00:15:58,117
and who a lot of GM executives
440
00:15:58,124 --> 00:16:00,536
and their wives thought
were age inappropriate.
441
00:16:00,543 --> 00:16:03,285
- I have a reasonably strong sex drive,
442
00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:06,254
which 1 happen to think is
an important part of any guy.
443
00:16:06,257 --> 00:16:09,500
No man who ever accomplished something
444
00:16:09,510 --> 00:16:11,842
didn't have that one characteristic.
445
00:16:11,846 --> 00:16:13,507
- [Tamir] He married his second wife,
446
00:16:13,514 --> 00:16:15,300
Kelly Harmon, blond bombshell.
447
00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:17,299
She was 19 at the time.
448
00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:19,927
- [Man] The General Motors PR Department
449
00:16:19,937 --> 00:16:21,848
added a couple years to her age
450
00:16:21,856 --> 00:16:25,019
when the press releases first
went out about the marriage.
451
00:16:25,026 --> 00:16:27,814
- [Tamir] She lives there in
Detroit for two or three years,
452
00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:29,481
becomes disillusioned with the marriage,
453
00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:30,524
and leaves him,
454
00:16:30,531 --> 00:16:32,147
and within a year and a half,
455
00:16:32,158 --> 00:16:34,445
he's married to Cristina Ferrare,
456
00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:37,285
the, at that point,
world's top super model.
457
00:16:37,288 --> 00:16:38,119
- [Man] Then he ended up, of course,
458
00:16:38,122 --> 00:16:40,329
in the fashion magazines
and that kind of thing,
459
00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:44,577
and while that enhanced his
image outside of the company,
460
00:16:44,587 --> 00:16:46,954
it created problems for him within.
461
00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:48,125
- GM can't stand this.
462
00:16:48,132 --> 00:16:49,338
It's pissing them off,
463
00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:50,457
and he goes back to them and says,
464
00:16:50,468 --> 00:16:52,209
"Hey, what are you guys worried about?
465
00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:54,257
"Look at the sales numbers."
466
00:16:54,263 --> 00:16:55,094
- Tom, how do you feel
467
00:16:55,097 --> 00:16:57,634
about our retail sales job this past year?
468
00:16:57,642 --> 00:16:59,224
- How do I feel?
469
00:16:59,227 --> 00:17:00,433
John, I feel great.
470
00:17:01,646 --> 00:17:04,604
- Both at Pontiac and at Chevrolet,
471
00:17:04,607 --> 00:17:06,689
he was making so much
money for the company,
472
00:17:06,692 --> 00:17:09,104
and all the executives that he reported to
473
00:17:09,111 --> 00:17:12,399
who were upset with his
lifestyle, upset with him,
474
00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:13,988
couldn't quite figure out
475
00:17:13,991 --> 00:17:15,026
how he was doing so well,
476
00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:16,195
but they could see the numbers,
477
00:17:16,202 --> 00:17:17,158
and they knew that showed up
478
00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,071
in their bonus checks,
479
00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:19,911
and that was the interesting dilemma
480
00:17:19,914 --> 00:17:21,871
for GM with John DeLorean.
481
00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:25,492
(gentle instrumental music)
482
00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:31,043
- [Man] This is Boston Harbor,
483
00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:33,587
and those are Volkswagens.
484
00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:36,840
They're coming in.
485
00:17:36,847 --> 00:17:39,088
- One of the tragic flaws of GM,
486
00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:41,216
and again this is something he knew,
487
00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:43,013
is that the company was all too willing
488
00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:44,431
to do what it was doing
year after year after year
489
00:17:44,438 --> 00:17:46,054
because it was working
490
00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:47,851
even though they were
ignoring, for instance,
491
00:17:47,858 --> 00:17:48,893
the small car market
492
00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:50,983
and let it go a lot of time to foreigners.
493
00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:51,852
- He saw what was coming
494
00:17:51,862 --> 00:17:52,818
from a lot of these imports,
495
00:17:52,822 --> 00:17:55,029
these smaller, more fuel efficient,
496
00:17:55,032 --> 00:17:56,739
better quality cars,
497
00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:59,325
and he knew the writing was on the wall.
498
00:17:59,328 --> 00:18:02,161
- Obviously, I saw the
trends very clearly,
499
00:18:02,164 --> 00:18:04,576
and 1 wanted to react to them
500
00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:06,495
a little bit perhaps more aggressively
501
00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:08,869
than other members of
the industry management.
502
00:18:08,879 --> 00:18:10,210
- He had big aspirations.
503
00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:11,375
He wanted to stay at GM.
504
00:18:11,382 --> 00:18:12,588
He wanted to be president.
505
00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:13,627
He wanted to do things,
506
00:18:13,634 --> 00:18:14,920
take the company in directions
507
00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:16,008
that they weren't willing to do
508
00:18:16,012 --> 00:18:18,219
because they were so comfortable
509
00:18:18,222 --> 00:18:20,509
being the fat cat at the time,
510
00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:22,678
being the number one car
company in the world,
511
00:18:22,685 --> 00:18:25,222
and that leads to his demise.
512
00:18:25,229 --> 00:18:27,971
(gentle instrumental music)
513
00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:29,393
- [Man] There were
executives who resented him.
514
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,515
Probably the most prominent
515
00:18:30,526 --> 00:18:33,018
is a guy named Roger Kyes.
516
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:36,067
- It was just a total
difference of opinion.
517
00:18:36,073 --> 00:18:39,941
I think he considered me
capricious and superficial,
518
00:18:39,952 --> 00:18:43,320
and 1 considered him a pompous ass.
519
00:18:43,331 --> 00:18:46,824
- [Man] Those enemies in
the company slowly developed
520
00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:49,622
kind of a cabal, if you
will, against DeLorean.
521
00:18:50,546 --> 00:18:53,288
- In 1972, they tasked John
522
00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:54,755
with putting together a speech
523
00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:56,341
to talk about GM's quality,
524
00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,881
the infamous Greenbrier Speech.
525
00:18:58,888 --> 00:19:01,801
They pre-read all the
speeches weeks in advance.
526
00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:03,923
They noticed that the
speech not only criticizes
527
00:19:03,934 --> 00:19:05,049
the quality of the cars,
528
00:19:05,061 --> 00:19:07,098
but it criticizes a lot of the executives
529
00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:08,390
that are currently there,
530
00:19:08,397 --> 00:19:09,933
some of his own bosses,
531
00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:12,181
and they censored a lot of the stuff
532
00:19:12,193 --> 00:19:13,433
that he could say in the speech,
533
00:19:13,444 --> 00:19:16,607
but he wasn't gonna let
it just rest at that.
534
00:19:16,614 --> 00:19:17,479
- There's nothing.
535
00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:20,364
There's something you forgot.
536
00:19:20,368 --> 00:19:22,279
- Well, that's the one I'm actually giving
537
00:19:22,286 --> 00:19:23,868
at Greenbrier on Saturday.
538
00:19:24,747 --> 00:19:27,330
This is the speech I should be giving.
539
00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:29,199
What I should be saying is in here.
540
00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:31,326
It's somewhere buried like Kyes wants.
541
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:33,502
- You think it's personal, then?
542
00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,543
- Oh, sure it's personal.
543
00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:37,790
I wonder how much longer
I can do this dance.
544
00:19:37,802 --> 00:19:39,042
1 mean, at this rate,
545
00:19:39,053 --> 00:19:41,715
it'll be 10 years of me pushing papers
546
00:19:41,722 --> 00:19:44,089
that I didn't write before
I'm named president,
547
00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:47,013
and that's not gonna work at all.
548
00:19:48,813 --> 00:19:51,271
- Any thoughts on how you
might accelerate that?
549
00:19:54,402 --> 00:19:55,233
- As a matter of fact,
550
00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:56,522
I've got a few ideas, yeah.
551
00:19:58,072 --> 00:20:01,406
If this original speech were to be leaked,
552
00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:03,616
there would be some blow back, sure,
553
00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:04,905
but I'd be vindicated.
554
00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:08,162
- And in this particular situation,
555
00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:10,327
what he wants is for
the public and the press
556
00:20:10,334 --> 00:20:11,665
to sort of shame GM
557
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:14,127
and push them in the
direction that he wanted
558
00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:16,337
the company to go in.
559
00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:17,876
- Good to see you, Roy.
560
00:20:17,883 --> 00:20:18,714
- And you, John.
561
00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:21,050
- [Tamir] And he felt that
by calling these people out
562
00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:22,794
that this was gonna somehow prop him up
563
00:20:22,805 --> 00:20:25,763
and propel him even faster
into the presidency.
564
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,843
- [Man] His initial speech
leaked to the press,
565
00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:31,845
and it was all over the news
566
00:20:31,856 --> 00:20:34,018
that John DeLorean is highly critical
567
00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:35,310
of General Motors' quality.
568
00:20:37,194 --> 00:20:39,105
- DeLorean claimed his enemies
569
00:20:39,113 --> 00:20:42,276
had leaked the speeches out.
570
00:20:42,283 --> 00:20:45,196
Became apparent that
people close to DeLorean
571
00:20:45,202 --> 00:20:47,318
had leaked these speeches out.
572
00:20:47,329 --> 00:20:48,819
- You got to remember this is a person
573
00:20:48,831 --> 00:20:53,246
who was only rewarded
for taking big risks,
574
00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:54,492
dangerous moves.
575
00:20:56,130 --> 00:20:57,666
It didn't work.
576
00:20:57,673 --> 00:20:59,789
- [Man] No doubt, DeLorean was booted
577
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,461
by members of the board
578
00:21:01,469 --> 00:21:03,130
and the corporate directors,
579
00:21:03,137 --> 00:21:07,472
and that forced him out
very abruptly in 1973.
580
00:21:07,475 --> 00:21:11,093
(gentle instrumental music)
581
00:21:14,899 --> 00:21:18,563
- [Man] DeLorean is
ejected from the company
582
00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:20,151
in what should have been
583
00:21:20,154 --> 00:21:22,942
a very embarrassing event.
584
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:27,909
However, he finds a way
at making it all heroic.
585
00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:30,286
- Being fired or being 1/7th
586
00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:32,246
or 1/ 10th of some committee
587
00:21:32,249 --> 00:21:34,456
is a very unappealing thing to me.
588
00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:36,497
Obviously, it was very
rewarding financially,
589
00:21:36,504 --> 00:21:38,336
and it would have been easy to sit there
590
00:21:38,339 --> 00:21:41,422
for another 17 years
collecting a half a million
591
00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:43,632
or three quarters of a
million dollars a year,
592
00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:45,843
but that really didn't
appeal to me very much.
593
00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:50,306
- A full career would have
been another 15 years.
594
00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:51,674
Well, what's he gonna do?
595
00:21:51,685 --> 00:21:53,392
He's going to count beans
596
00:21:53,395 --> 00:21:55,181
with the other executives.
597
00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:59,308
Compared to creating new,
cool products like GTOs,
598
00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:01,559
it's completely different.
599
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:05,438
There's no way DeLorean
would have lasted to age 65.
600
00:22:05,449 --> 00:22:07,565
- Wow, I can't imagine us selling
601
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:09,613
even close to 5,000
602
00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:12,237
but let's start with that number.
603
00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:14,706
- I've got another car,
a stainless steel car.
604
00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:16,494
You're gonna be crazy about it.
605
00:22:16,502 --> 00:22:17,333
- Yeah, okay.
606
00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:18,542
Good luck with that, John.
607
00:22:18,546 --> 00:22:19,661
(laughing)
608
00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:21,379
- [Man] And cut.
609
00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:22,747
- No, that's what the line should be.
610
00:22:22,758 --> 00:22:23,919
The bad version, you'll be going,
611
00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:24,757
"Next thing you're gonna be telling us
612
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,546
"you want to build a stainless steel car."
613
00:22:26,554 --> 00:22:27,965
(laughing)
614
00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:30,589
(upbeat instrumental music)
615
00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:32,055
- In the back of his mind,
616
00:22:32,059 --> 00:22:36,303
this concept car was always stirring,
617
00:22:36,313 --> 00:22:37,929
what he called an ethical car.
618
00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:40,022
- Oh, we're doing a
sports racing car here.
619
00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:42,813
It's gonna be designed
to have an eternal life,
620
00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:45,733
and so we're using a
non-corrosive material
621
00:22:45,739 --> 00:22:47,855
so that it'll just stay
together forever and ever,
622
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:51,155
and so it's gonna be very
beautiful aesthetically.
623
00:22:51,161 --> 00:22:54,279
- [Tamir] He wanted to
build a sophisticated,
624
00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:57,828
contemporary looking
sports car for the masses.
625
00:22:57,835 --> 00:22:59,246
That wasn't the norm.
626
00:22:59,253 --> 00:23:00,459
If you're gonna get something
627
00:23:00,462 --> 00:23:02,373
that's that exotic and interesting,
628
00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:03,712
you're gonna have to get a Ferrari
629
00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:05,798
or a Lamborghini where they only make
630
00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:08,213
a few hundred cars a year.
631
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:11,679
John was trying to make
a mass produced car.
632
00:23:11,682 --> 00:23:14,344
He set out to compete with the big boys.
633
00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:16,592
- It's difficult, if not impossible,
634
00:23:16,604 --> 00:23:19,938
to start up a car company.
635
00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:21,476
Really, the last one you could name
636
00:23:21,483 --> 00:23:24,100
was Chrysler in the 1920s,
637
00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:26,773
and even Chrysler went through bankruptcy.
638
00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:29,192
There aren't many people who'd do that,
639
00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:31,941
who want to risk it all.
640
00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:33,113
- [Man] When he left GM
641
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,827
and more or less was forced to leave,
642
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:38,368
that became the driving
force in his motivation.
643
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:39,831
I'm gonna show them,
644
00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:42,327
and so it was part dream and part revenge.
645
00:23:45,132 --> 00:23:47,840
(pages rustling)
646
00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:51,673
(birds chirping)
647
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,511
- There it is,
648
00:23:52,514 --> 00:23:53,504
what we always talked about.
649
00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:56,303
What do you think about being named
650
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:58,802
the head of the entire product program
651
00:23:58,812 --> 00:24:02,396
for the first mass produced
car since Chrysler?
652
00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:07,231
- John, look, obviously
I'm flattered, but--
653
00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:08,102
- No buts, Bill,
654
00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:09,274
and I'm not flattering you.
655
00:24:09,281 --> 00:24:11,192
This is what you and I were built for.
656
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,316
This is real innovation.
657
00:24:14,995 --> 00:24:16,702
- Does innovation include a pension?
658
00:24:16,705 --> 00:24:17,991
- (laughing) Well, who's asking?
659
00:24:17,998 --> 00:24:18,863
- My wife.
660
00:24:18,874 --> 00:24:21,707
- Well, you tell Nina
that the greater the risk,
661
00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:22,666
the greater the reward,
662
00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:25,503
and besides, this finally
puts you in the driver's seat.
663
00:24:25,506 --> 00:24:26,337
- Lemonade, boys?
664
00:24:27,591 --> 00:24:28,422
665
00:24:28,425 --> 00:24:29,256
- [Bill] Thank you.
666
00:24:29,259 --> 00:24:30,090
- Honey.
667
00:24:30,094 --> 00:24:31,050
- Thank you.
668
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:35,046
- And you've got the money for this?
669
00:24:35,057 --> 00:24:37,924
- Oh, yeah, we've got several sources
670
00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:39,551
of initial investment.
671
00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:47,483
- You two are quite persuasive.
672
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:48,317
(laughing)
673
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,606
- The lemonade was my idea.
674
00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:52,442
- It's delicious.
675
00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:54,110
- You talk to your wife.
676
00:24:54,118 --> 00:24:55,324
- I probably thought about it,
677
00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:57,364
and my wife would say we should
678
00:24:57,371 --> 00:24:58,657
probably not have clone it.
679
00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:00,280
Having been at GM where money
680
00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:01,997
was never a problem,
681
00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:04,208
you were sort of gambling,
682
00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:06,953
and you hoped the thing
was gonna work out.
683
00:25:06,964 --> 00:25:10,502
- The company really has
its founding in two people.
684
00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:12,967
That's John DeLorean and Bill Collins.
685
00:25:12,970 --> 00:25:15,211
- [Man] Collins never reached for glory.
686
00:25:15,222 --> 00:25:16,712
He didn't have so much ego
687
00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:19,512
that he needed his name on the product.
688
00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:21,475
He was always behind the scenes.
689
00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:26,314
He was the guy who made
DeLorean look good many times.
690
00:25:26,316 --> 00:25:29,274
- Bill is a super, wonderful gentleman.
691
00:25:29,278 --> 00:25:31,770
He is one of the world's finest men.
692
00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:32,611
He really is.
693
00:25:32,614 --> 00:25:34,150
He is a good man,
694
00:25:34,158 --> 00:25:36,946
and it was like his dream
695
00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:38,033
was to do this.
696
00:25:39,747 --> 00:25:40,737
- 1 think from the beginning,
697
00:25:40,748 --> 00:25:43,240
John's major concern
always was fundraising,
698
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,708
so my objective was to start out
699
00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,167
building the first prototype.
700
00:25:48,047 --> 00:25:50,084
- This was definitely Bill's baby.
701
00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:51,580
I mean, if there was an issue
702
00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:53,549
that had anything to do with the car,
703
00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:55,919
Bill Collins was the
guy leading the charge.
704
00:25:57,056 --> 00:26:00,674
That played out basically
for the first three years
705
00:26:00,684 --> 00:26:01,594
of the project.
706
00:26:02,644 --> 00:26:04,430
When we finished the first prototype,
707
00:26:04,438 --> 00:26:05,803
it was a huge event
708
00:26:05,814 --> 00:26:07,851
because now we could say,
709
00:26:07,858 --> 00:26:11,396
this isn't some dream kind of fakery here.
710
00:26:11,403 --> 00:26:13,064
This is the real McCoy.
711
00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:15,359
- [Bill] We hadn't solved all
the engineering problems yet,
712
00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:16,526
but it was exciting.
713
00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:19,867
It turned out to be a
great car, in my opinion.
714
00:26:19,870 --> 00:26:22,328
- To be part of this thing
715
00:26:22,331 --> 00:26:24,072
that might grow into something
716
00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:26,120
that who knows where it would go,
717
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:28,493
it was electrifying.
718
00:26:32,674 --> 00:26:33,789
- [Man] This is a presentation
719
00:26:33,801 --> 00:26:36,384
of the DeLeorean Motor Company.
720
00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:38,468
(gentle electronic music)
721
00:26:38,472 --> 00:26:40,338
Imagine how many of
the men who have headed
722
00:26:40,349 --> 00:26:43,216
each of the major automotive manufacturers
723
00:26:43,227 --> 00:26:45,013
have wanted to create a product starting
724
00:26:45,020 --> 00:26:46,852
with a clean sheet of paper.
725
00:26:46,855 --> 00:26:50,268
That is what the DeLorean
Motor Company intends to do.
726
00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:53,309
- We were basically a company
727
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,481
with no foundation,
728
00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:59,824
and the less you have
to secure an investment,
729
00:26:59,827 --> 00:27:02,489
the more risky you are to an investor,
730
00:27:02,496 --> 00:27:04,612
and we were pretty risky.
731
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:08,912
Our asset was John's
background experience,
732
00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:11,081
and so he really had to be
733
00:27:11,088 --> 00:27:13,204
what we initially were selling.
734
00:27:13,215 --> 00:27:15,206
- [Man] John DeLorean
wants to build a car--
735
00:27:15,217 --> 00:27:16,548
- [Jerry] You have to portray him
736
00:27:16,552 --> 00:27:18,134
as being on the top of the mountain,
737
00:27:18,137 --> 00:27:21,095
being adored by the world as a savior
738
00:27:21,098 --> 00:27:22,930
of the auto industry,
739
00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:23,968
- [Man] (mumbling) is very popular.
740
00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:26,809
- [Jerry] And we were the
dog and pony show experts,
741
00:27:26,812 --> 00:27:28,223
and we'd do the set up.
742
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:29,686
We'd do the show,
743
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:31,431
and then at the precise moment,
744
00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:33,273
John DeLorean would come in.
745
00:27:33,277 --> 00:27:34,483
They'd actually see the man,
746
00:27:34,486 --> 00:27:36,978
and it looked like he was levitating.
747
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:40,107
(audience applauding)
748
00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:44,493
(camera shutter flashing)
749
00:27:47,624 --> 00:27:50,491
- Most of you have already
seen my lovely wife, Cristina.
750
00:27:54,548 --> 00:27:56,209
I know she's likely the real reason
751
00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:57,456
you're all here tonight,
752
00:27:57,467 --> 00:27:58,457
(laughing)
753
00:27:58,468 --> 00:27:59,833
but in all seriousness,
754
00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:01,210
1 do have her to thank,
755
00:28:02,431 --> 00:28:03,887
along with many others.
756
00:28:03,891 --> 00:28:06,132
In particular, I'd like to recognize
757
00:28:06,143 --> 00:28:08,009
the man 1 handpicked,
758
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:10,978
essentially stole from GM to head up
759
00:28:10,981 --> 00:28:14,724
the entire DeLorean Motor
Company private program,
760
00:28:14,735 --> 00:28:17,318
perhaps the finest automotive engineer
761
00:28:17,321 --> 00:28:20,905
I've ever met in my
entire life, Bill Collins.
762
00:28:20,908 --> 00:28:24,026
(audience applauding)
763
00:28:25,662 --> 00:28:28,245
I know that we may be
the new boy on the block,
764
00:28:28,248 --> 00:28:30,114
but I also know that on this,
765
00:28:30,125 --> 00:28:33,959
the bicentennial of the
American Revolution,
766
00:28:33,962 --> 00:28:36,624
we can start making our version
767
00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:40,375
of the American dream a reality.
768
00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:44,219
Allow me to introduce
the first incarnation
769
00:28:44,223 --> 00:28:46,885
in the evolution of my dream,
770
00:28:46,892 --> 00:28:48,223
our first vehicle,
771
00:28:48,227 --> 00:28:51,265
code named the DMC-12,
772
00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:52,978
the DeLorean Motor Car.
773
00:28:54,358 --> 00:28:57,476
(audience applauding)
774
00:29:01,281 --> 00:29:03,192
- [Man] In the early stages,
775
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,907
this was all but the second coming.
776
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:07,868
It was described in Detroit as significant
777
00:29:07,871 --> 00:29:10,533
as the invention of the Ford Model A,
778
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:11,371
(camera shutter flashing)
779
00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:13,241
that this was gonna change everything.
780
00:29:14,795 --> 00:29:16,001
(camera shutter flashing)
781
00:29:16,004 --> 00:29:18,712
(birds chirping)
782
00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:34,144
- I don't think I've sat in one of these
783
00:29:34,147 --> 00:29:36,764
probably since my dad had one on the farm.
784
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,015
There's not much of a tie
785
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:42,107
for me to the car as much
as people would think.
786
00:29:44,491 --> 00:29:46,198
1 don't know if that makes sense.
787
00:29:46,201 --> 00:29:48,533
Being young when this car was built,
788
00:29:48,537 --> 00:29:49,743
you just don't understand
789
00:29:49,746 --> 00:29:52,283
the magnitude and the gravity of it.
790
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:54,578
It's flying over your head
at 1,000 miles an hour,
791
00:29:54,584 --> 00:29:57,576
and it's like my dad built this car.
792
00:29:57,587 --> 00:29:59,419
It's got our name on it.
793
00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:01,380
I mean, when I'm in it or I see it,
794
00:30:01,383 --> 00:30:02,293
1 see my father.
795
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:03,336
I feel my dad,
796
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:06,969
but between me and this car,
797
00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,798
I think it's a love hate
relationship, probably.
798
00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:13,426
Half the time, I don't even
know what to think of it,
799
00:30:13,437 --> 00:30:15,053
to be honest with you, so,
800
00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:23,861
probably the closest
person I've ever been close
801
00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:26,697
to my whole fucking life was my father.
802
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,533
He adopted me when 1 was,
803
00:30:29,536 --> 00:30:30,901
I mean, two weeks old.
804
00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:34,246
As far as like DeLorean
805
00:30:34,249 --> 00:30:35,865
or DeLorean Motor Company,
806
00:30:35,876 --> 00:30:37,583
it was just dad going to work.
807
00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:39,668
Dad's building a car.
808
00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:41,787
I had no clue how famous he was,
809
00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:43,880
had no clue how famous my mother was.
810
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,046
1 think we moved to New York
811
00:30:46,053 --> 00:30:47,669
probably I would say in '74
812
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,262
because then my sister was born in '77.
813
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:52,469
- Throughout my life,
814
00:30:52,476 --> 00:30:53,932
1 understood that there was
815
00:30:53,935 --> 00:30:55,642
this man John DeLorean,
816
00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:57,682
and with this man John DeLorean
817
00:30:57,689 --> 00:31:02,024
came this history of all the things
818
00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:04,234
that are again iconically
819
00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:06,478
encompassed by the car,
820
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:12,110
and then there was my dad,
821
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,705
and I understood that they
were two different people.
822
00:31:17,959 --> 00:31:19,541
When I was little,
823
00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:22,036
my dad was at the peak of everything.
824
00:31:23,173 --> 00:31:25,460
There are pictures of us,
825
00:31:25,467 --> 00:31:26,298
and 1 used to say,
826
00:31:26,301 --> 00:31:28,133
it's the royal family.
827
00:31:28,136 --> 00:31:30,594
My mom was always so
perfect and put together,
828
00:31:30,597 --> 00:31:33,134
and my brother always in
his perfect little suit.
829
00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:35,803
Oh, we were so cute,
830
00:31:35,811 --> 00:31:38,178
like seriously, we were just so cute.
831
00:31:38,188 --> 00:31:40,555
My dad was my best friend.
832
00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:43,182
He taught me everything.
833
00:31:43,193 --> 00:31:44,399
He taught me how to fish.
834
00:31:44,403 --> 00:31:45,518
He taught me how to drive.
835
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:47,645
He taught me how to ride a motorcycle.
836
00:31:48,949 --> 00:31:51,190
- This is everything he
had been working for.
837
00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:52,657
This was his dream, I mean,
838
00:31:52,661 --> 00:31:53,822
being married to my mom,
839
00:31:53,829 --> 00:31:54,660
having a family,
840
00:31:54,663 --> 00:31:56,825
having an apartment on Fifth Avenue,
841
00:31:57,958 --> 00:32:00,541
buying a farm out in New Jersey,
842
00:32:00,544 --> 00:32:02,000
having the car company.
843
00:32:03,088 --> 00:32:04,123
(camera shutter clicking)
844
00:32:04,131 --> 00:32:08,876
That was probably the
best time of his life.
845
00:32:12,472 --> 00:32:13,428
- Can you see this well?
846
00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,593
Is this lit well enough for you?
847
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,432
Because, I mean, I'm a firm believer
848
00:32:17,436 --> 00:32:19,393
that that can't be faked,
849
00:32:19,396 --> 00:32:23,230
and now how happy she is, I don't know,
850
00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:24,223
and she seems pretty happy,
851
00:32:24,234 --> 00:32:25,065
but she's a kid.
852
00:32:25,068 --> 00:32:28,277
They're always fairly happy as a rule,
853
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,147
but look at how happy he is himself,
854
00:32:31,158 --> 00:32:32,364
the subject of the film.
855
00:32:33,493 --> 00:32:34,324
1 don't think that can be.
856
00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:36,068
1 think he's very happy,
857
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,241
and I have a picture of my family,
858
00:32:38,248 --> 00:32:39,989
and I'm a couple of years older
859
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,116
than my wife than he is from his wife,
860
00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:43,913
so 1 get this.
861
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,786
1 get this,
862
00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:48,789
and the problem is that he wanted both,
863
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:50,715
and when you want both,
864
00:32:50,719 --> 00:32:51,550
you can have both,
865
00:32:51,553 --> 00:32:52,759
but that's very tough to do.
866
00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:55,546
- [Man] Cristina, you have been married
867
00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:57,264
to this man for seven years.
868
00:32:57,267 --> 00:32:58,507
Tell me about John.
869
00:32:59,728 --> 00:33:02,846
- Well, I, unfortunately
for everyone else,
870
00:33:02,856 --> 00:33:03,812
all of our other friends,
871
00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:06,307
they do not know John the way 1 do,
872
00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:07,183
and if they did--
873
00:33:07,194 --> 00:33:08,025
- [Man] Well, that may be better.
874
00:33:08,028 --> 00:33:10,611
- No, no, let me be more specific about,
875
00:33:10,614 --> 00:33:11,820
because most of the people
876
00:33:11,823 --> 00:33:15,566
know John as a businessman
and an executive,
877
00:33:15,577 --> 00:33:17,989
but 1 know him as a husband
878
00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:19,452
and a loving father,
879
00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:21,413
and he is a totally unselfish,
880
00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,703
gentle, giving human being.
881
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,498
1 grew up and married Prince Charming.
882
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:27,415
- [Man] Really?
883
00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:28,253
- That's exactly how I feel.
884
00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:29,087
YES.
885
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:29,875
- All right, John.
886
00:33:29,883 --> 00:33:30,714
Describe her to me.
887
00:33:30,717 --> 00:33:31,798
(laughing)
888
00:33:31,801 --> 00:33:32,962
- Yeah, of course.
889
00:33:32,969 --> 00:33:34,255
It would take days,
890
00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:37,345
but I never in my wildest dreams
891
00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:38,680
ever believed that my life
892
00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:40,594
could be so complete and so happy,
893
00:33:40,602 --> 00:33:43,890
and when there's any
kind of a family crisis,
894
00:33:43,897 --> 00:33:46,184
she suddenly becomes
the Rock of Gibraltar.
895
00:33:46,191 --> 00:33:47,773
She really is the solid,
896
00:33:47,776 --> 00:33:50,313
stable part of our relationship,
897
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,105
whether it's--
898
00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:53,570
- She was very perky,
899
00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:55,314
Peppy, upbeat,
900
00:33:55,325 --> 00:33:57,862
and she is that way in
a lot of the footage
901
00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:58,734
that I've seen.
902
00:34:00,747 --> 00:34:01,987
- Do you want me to
walk you to the elevator
903
00:34:01,998 --> 00:34:03,159
like I do every morning?
904
00:34:03,166 --> 00:34:03,997
- [John] No,
905
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,831
- No?
906
00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:05,744
Okay.
907
00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:06,583
Goodbye, sweetheart.
908
00:34:06,586 --> 00:34:08,327
Have a wonderful day.
909
00:34:08,338 --> 00:34:10,545
Goodbye, darling.
910
00:34:10,549 --> 00:34:11,380
That's John.
911
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:12,214
anyway"
912
00:34:12,217 --> 00:34:14,299
- [Morena] But every woman who has it all
913
00:34:14,302 --> 00:34:16,213
and who works and who has children
914
00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:17,131
and who is in love
915
00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:19,095
and who has a loving family,
916
00:34:19,099 --> 00:34:22,091
like you cannot be 100% at everything.
917
00:34:22,102 --> 00:34:23,263
When 1 was watching footage,
918
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:24,601
it was to sort of see,
919
00:34:24,604 --> 00:34:27,062
what was the public Cristina
920
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,976
versus what was the personal,
921
00:34:28,984 --> 00:34:30,520
where the cracks were.
922
00:34:30,527 --> 00:34:32,188
- [Man] They arrested John DeLorean.
923
00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:34,277
- 1 just found out a few hours ago.
924
00:34:34,281 --> 00:34:35,396
1 know nothing.
925
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:36,397
I caught a plane.
926
00:34:36,408 --> 00:34:37,273
I'm here.
927
00:34:37,284 --> 00:34:38,115
(mumbling)
928
00:34:38,118 --> 00:34:39,449
- She's so composed.
929
00:34:39,452 --> 00:34:40,863
It's amazing, right?
930
00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:44,408
I mean, I feel like she
was caught in between
931
00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:46,953
what she wanted things to be like,
932
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,918
and this is just me speculating obviously,
933
00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:52,333
but like what she wanted things to be like
934
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:54,377
and then what the reality was.
935
00:34:54,384 --> 00:34:55,215
(mumbling)
936
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:56,583
Not yet.
937
00:34:56,595 --> 00:34:58,085
We were just rehearsing.
938
00:34:58,096 --> 00:34:59,006
Sit down.
939
00:34:59,014 --> 00:34:59,845
- What are you doing--
940
00:34:59,848 --> 00:35:01,464
- Sit down, you little.
941
00:35:01,474 --> 00:35:04,011
And obviously with what
happened in their lives
942
00:35:04,019 --> 00:35:06,386
with John being arrested,
943
00:35:06,396 --> 00:35:08,933
I think that's sort of like
the culmination of it all,
944
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,806
and along the way I'm sure
945
00:35:10,817 --> 00:35:11,978
that in their relationship,
946
00:35:11,985 --> 00:35:15,569
there were moments where
she was very much in love,
947
00:35:15,572 --> 00:35:20,032
but wondering, he's incredibly
driven and ambitious,
948
00:35:20,035 --> 00:35:22,447
and how does she fit into that picture?
949
00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:23,990
- Eventually the car will get built,
950
00:35:23,997 --> 00:35:27,285
but right now I'm trying to build a brand.
951
00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:29,750
- Well, it concerns me
952
00:35:29,753 --> 00:35:32,211
where we're gonna raise the children.
953
00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:35,001
- Well, wherever we set up shop,
954
00:35:35,008 --> 00:35:37,420
we won't have to spend much time there.
955
00:35:37,427 --> 00:35:38,838
All that matters is which government
956
00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:39,960
gives us the most money.
957
00:35:41,514 --> 00:35:42,720
- Well, it matters to me,
958
00:35:44,434 --> 00:35:45,765
and it matters to the kids.
959
00:35:49,606 --> 00:35:50,391
- Don't worry.
960
00:35:51,441 --> 00:35:53,102
It's gonna be great for all of us.
961
00:35:54,235 --> 00:35:55,020
Trust me.
962
00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:02,654
(weapons exploding)
963
00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:05,073
- [Man] Northern Ireland's
now experiencing rioting
964
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,448
on a scale not seen for many years.
965
00:36:08,458 --> 00:36:10,574
- Why pick Belfast, Ireland,
966
00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:12,326
to build your motor plant?
967
00:36:12,337 --> 00:36:13,498
- Oh, it's very simple.
968
00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:15,212
Nobody anywhere in the world
969
00:36:15,215 --> 00:36:17,752
would come up with the
financing we needed.
970
00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:20,000
Now, nobody else would go to Belfast
971
00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:21,547
because it was such a terrible,
972
00:36:21,554 --> 00:36:23,420
dangerous place to be.
973
00:36:23,431 --> 00:36:24,887
- I read in the newspapers
974
00:36:24,891 --> 00:36:26,598
that John DeLorean had secured
975
00:36:26,601 --> 00:36:30,265
the investment he needed to
establish his car project
976
00:36:30,271 --> 00:36:32,433
in Northern Ireland against the background
977
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,057
of the famous troubles
978
00:36:35,068 --> 00:36:37,230
that was rife at that time.
979
00:36:37,237 --> 00:36:38,068
(yelling)
980
00:36:38,071 --> 00:36:40,062
- [Man] Prolonged civil
unrest between Catholics
981
00:36:40,073 --> 00:36:42,781
and Protestants scares off industrialists,
982
00:36:42,784 --> 00:36:44,991
depriving Northern Ireland of jobs,
983
00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:47,611
which it needs more than
any other area of Britain.
984
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:49,996
- The unemployment was insane.
985
00:36:49,999 --> 00:36:51,581
It was 30, 40%,
986
00:36:51,584 --> 00:36:55,794
and John had something to offer, jobs.
987
00:36:55,797 --> 00:36:58,380
The Labor government
in Britain at the time
988
00:36:58,383 --> 00:37:01,967
was willing to put in subsidies, loans,
989
00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:03,881
a piece of land,
990
00:37:03,888 --> 00:37:05,720
but here's the catch.
991
00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:07,135
It's got a population
992
00:37:07,142 --> 00:37:09,383
that has never built a car before.
993
00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:11,385
There's no rare-existing structure
994
00:37:11,396 --> 00:37:12,932
to build a car company there,
995
00:37:12,939 --> 00:37:15,897
and you have to do it in two years.
996
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,312
1 mean, are you kidding me'?
997
00:37:18,319 --> 00:37:19,434
And all they have at this point
998
00:37:19,446 --> 00:37:21,483
is a hand built prototype,
999
00:37:21,489 --> 00:37:24,982
so it was a long list
of things to accomplish
1000
00:37:24,993 --> 00:37:27,860
to eventually be able to
productionize the car.
1001
00:37:27,871 --> 00:37:29,908
It became clear to everyone
1002
00:37:29,914 --> 00:37:31,575
that they needed to have help
1003
00:37:31,583 --> 00:37:33,039
to weed out all the problems
1004
00:37:33,042 --> 00:37:36,000
and actually engineer this
car to be mass produced.
1005
00:37:36,004 --> 00:37:39,247
Well, Colin Chapman
comes into the picture.
1006
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,051
- Probably the finest automobile engineer
1007
00:37:45,054 --> 00:37:47,386
I have ever met in my life, Colin Chapman.
1008
00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:48,972
I'll introduce Colin now.
1009
00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:50,090
(audience applauding)
1010
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:53,184
- [Tamir] Colin Chapman is
the founder of Lotus Cars.
1011
00:37:53,188 --> 00:37:56,146
He was a pioneer in the racing industry.
1012
00:37:56,149 --> 00:37:58,390
He dominated Formula One.
1013
00:37:58,401 --> 00:38:02,770
- [Man] A deal had been struck
with Lotus Cars as a company
1014
00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:05,614
and Colin Chapman as a named individual
1015
00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:08,609
to engineer and develop DeLorean cars
1016
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:10,202
that could enter production.
1017
00:38:10,205 --> 00:38:12,446
- Well, the idea of working with Lotus
1018
00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:13,993
sounded like a good idea.
1019
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,115
We would all get together,
1020
00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:17,413
and we'd become a joint organization
1021
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:21,254
and go finish the production design work.
1022
00:38:21,257 --> 00:38:24,170
- Well, when we first got to Lotus,
1023
00:38:24,177 --> 00:38:25,713
1 mean, right out of the chute,
1024
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:26,960
it was kind of awkward.
1025
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:30,930
Here Bill and I and some
others had spent years
1026
00:38:30,934 --> 00:38:32,925
getting us to this point,
1027
00:38:32,936 --> 00:38:36,395
and then now it was like
Bill Collins and Bob Manion
1028
00:38:36,397 --> 00:38:38,183
and whoever else was involved,
1029
00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:42,105
they can kind of like just watch us,
1030
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,021
and that of course isn't
what 1 was gonna do,
1031
00:38:46,032 --> 00:38:48,865
and it certainly wasn't gonna
be what Bill was gonna do.
1032
00:38:48,868 --> 00:38:49,983
- This is Bill.
1033
00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:51,325
Johnin?
1034
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:52,990
- [John] Bill, how the hell are you?
1035
00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:55,284
- Look, John, 1 got the
contract you sent over,
1036
00:38:56,292 --> 00:38:59,410
and 1 have to say it
raises some questions.
1037
00:39:00,797 --> 00:39:03,164
You've got a lot in
here about Lotus, John,
1038
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:04,835
but nothing about me.
1039
00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:05,674
- Oh, you don't have to
worry about that, Bill.
1040
00:39:05,677 --> 00:39:07,964
It's just a lot of paperwork.
1041
00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:09,382
You know what you're doing.
1042
00:39:09,389 --> 00:39:10,220
- 1 understand that, John,
1043
00:39:10,223 --> 00:39:11,554
but I thought this was supposed
1044
00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:13,799
to be a collaboration on the redesign,
1045
00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:15,517
but Chapman's nowhere to be found.
1046
00:39:16,938 --> 00:39:19,100
- Well, they're doing a lot
of R and D, aren't they?
1047
00:39:19,107 --> 00:39:20,768
- That's the other thing.
1048
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:25,110
This company in here, this GPD,
1049
00:39:25,113 --> 00:39:26,478
I've never even heard of it.
1050
00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:28,863
- You don't need to
worry about that, Bill.
1051
00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:32,280
It's not going to affect you at all, okay?
1052
00:39:32,287 --> 00:39:34,403
- Well, I don't see how that's possible.
1053
00:39:34,414 --> 00:39:35,996
They got a hefty line item
1054
00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:37,114
in here on engineering,
1055
00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:39,162
but that's what we're
supposed to be doing.
1056
00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:40,658
It just seems like you're paying twice
1057
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:42,661
for the same thing, John.
1058
00:39:43,756 --> 00:39:46,293
- Well, it must be some
kind of a tax shelter, Bill.
1059
00:39:46,301 --> 00:39:47,132
1 don't know.
1060
00:39:47,135 --> 00:39:47,966
I'm not a CPA.
1061
00:39:47,969 --> 00:39:48,754
I'm sorry.
1062
00:39:51,097 --> 00:39:52,462
- John, what am 1 doing here?
1063
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:55,215
Why am 1 even here?
1064
00:40:01,024 --> 00:40:02,014
- I liked Bill.
1065
00:40:02,025 --> 00:40:03,857
1 think he'd done a tremendous job,
1066
00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:07,819
but the moment I found
him reading the contract,
1067
00:40:07,822 --> 00:40:11,440
it was quite clear that
what he'd already decided
1068
00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,818
in his own mind was true,
1069
00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:15,318
that he was out of a job.
1070
00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:18,618
Colin Chapman was not gonna have anybody
1071
00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:21,287
looking over Colin Chapman's shoulder.
1072
00:40:21,294 --> 00:40:22,659
- [Man] To do business like this,
1073
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:24,377
don't you have to be pretty ruthless?
1074
00:40:26,925 --> 00:40:28,336
- I don't think you have to be ruthless.
1075
00:40:28,343 --> 00:40:29,925
1 think you have to be prepared to make
1076
00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:32,545
some unpalatable decisions at times
1077
00:40:32,555 --> 00:40:35,092
because frequently you're
faced with making a decision
1078
00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:36,430
between two evils,
1079
00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:38,345
and you're gonna hurt somebody.
1080
00:40:38,353 --> 00:40:41,266
- John DeLorean himself, he knew.
1081
00:40:41,272 --> 00:40:42,387
He'd arranged with Chapman
1082
00:40:42,398 --> 00:40:45,106
that this is the way it's gonna be.
1083
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:49,023
Nobody had told the
guys from the U.S. team.
1084
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:51,692
- [Tamir] It becomes
painfully clear that Bill
1085
00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:54,282
and his engineering team are out of a job,
1086
00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:55,650
and not only that,
1087
00:40:55,662 --> 00:40:57,699
there's something very fishy going on
1088
00:40:57,705 --> 00:40:59,696
with the finances of this deal.
1089
00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:02,825
Colin Chapman was gonna
be willing to do things
1090
00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:05,623
that Bill would never have
been comfortable with,
1091
00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:08,748
and for John, I think that
was an important aspect
1092
00:41:08,758 --> 00:41:10,089
to this partnership,
1093
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:11,128
and it was the type of thing
1094
00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:12,796
that was so important to him at the time
1095
00:41:12,804 --> 00:41:15,466
that he was willing to sacrifice Bill.
1096
00:41:19,894 --> 00:41:23,478
(metal clattering)
1097
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:26,940
- Dear, John, after much
deliberation on my part,
1098
00:41:26,943 --> 00:41:28,559
I feel it is obvious to both of us
1099
00:41:28,569 --> 00:41:30,526
that my participation in your venture
1100
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:32,362
is no longer the same as intended.
1101
00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:36,115
Under the current circumstances,
1102
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:38,235
I feel the only alternative for me
1103
00:41:38,246 --> 00:41:40,078
is to tender my resignation
1104
00:41:40,081 --> 00:41:43,073
in all my present positions at this time.
1105
00:41:43,084 --> 00:41:45,667
I wish you and the rest of
the team the best of luck.
1106
00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:49,253
All these years later,
1107
00:41:50,591 --> 00:41:51,797
it still looks great,
1108
00:41:53,177 --> 00:41:55,418
and it would be nice to
have a brown interior.
1109
00:41:58,141 --> 00:42:00,553
Well, it'd been a long, long time
1110
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,642
that we'd been working on the project,
1111
00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:07,606
and I felt that I was being
totally undercut by John,
1112
00:42:07,984 --> 00:42:09,816
and he really owed me a hell of lot more
1113
00:42:09,819 --> 00:42:11,355
than to treat me the way he did,
1114
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:14,646
and it just seemed like
the time to move on.
1115
00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:18,733
- [Woman] Do you remember
having the conversation
1116
00:42:18,745 --> 00:42:19,985
with John where you said,
1117
00:42:19,996 --> 00:42:20,827
"I'm resigning?"
1118
00:42:20,830 --> 00:42:22,696
- No, 1 don't remember.
1119
00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:26,700
1 think he was happy to see me go.
1120
00:42:26,711 --> 00:42:27,667
- [Woman] Do you really?
1121
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:28,501
- Yeah.
1122
00:42:28,504 --> 00:42:29,585
- [Woman] He didn't
try to stop you at all?
1123
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:30,374
- No.
1124
00:42:36,095 --> 00:42:37,256
We're all males,
1125
00:42:37,263 --> 00:42:38,344
but there's something to be said
1126
00:42:38,347 --> 00:42:39,803
about being the guy that's sort of the guy
1127
00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:43,595
that bore the baby, as it were,
1128
00:42:43,603 --> 00:42:44,889
with the DMC-12.
1129
00:42:53,863 --> 00:42:56,571
(metal thudding)
1130
00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:00,483
(mumbling)
1131
00:43:00,495 --> 00:43:04,033
(plane engine running)
1132
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,496
- Before we started filming,
1133
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:09,960
we knew nothing about
John DeLorean really.
1134
00:43:09,962 --> 00:43:14,331
(upbeat instrumental music)
1135
00:43:14,342 --> 00:43:16,003
We basically came to the project
1136
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:18,468
because a British television station
1137
00:43:18,471 --> 00:43:22,009
wanted to do something on Ireland.
1138
00:43:22,016 --> 00:43:23,552
- And 1 was thinking, oh, boy,
1139
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:27,097
we can do a wonderful piece on Yates.
1140
00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:29,517
They said, "No, no, we want
it to be about automobiles
1141
00:43:29,524 --> 00:43:30,730
"because everybody in England
1142
00:43:30,733 --> 00:43:32,599
"just loves automobiles."
1143
00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:34,476
- [Chris] Like most of our films,
1144
00:43:34,487 --> 00:43:36,774
the idea was to kind of watch somebody
1145
00:43:36,781 --> 00:43:39,364
who wants to fulfill a life dream,
1146
00:43:39,367 --> 00:43:41,859
and that's who John was.
1147
00:43:41,869 --> 00:43:45,237
- [Man] John Zachary DeLorean
certainly doesn't smile much.
1148
00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:46,454
The reason is simple.
1149
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:48,448
The most important project in his life
1150
00:43:48,459 --> 00:43:50,041
is yet to be accomplished.
1151
00:43:50,044 --> 00:43:51,580
- He was very guarded
1152
00:43:51,587 --> 00:43:56,206
because he had so many
things, I guess, on his mind
1153
00:43:56,217 --> 00:43:58,800
to get figured out all the time.
1154
00:43:58,803 --> 00:44:02,046
- We've had some kind of
criticism right from day one.
1155
00:44:02,056 --> 00:44:05,299
First, we were never gonna
get the program together.
1156
00:44:05,309 --> 00:44:06,970
Then we'd never get the financing.
1157
00:44:06,978 --> 00:44:08,434
Then we'd never build the plant.
1158
00:44:08,437 --> 00:44:12,522
- 1 don't think the motor
car manufacturing industries,
1159
00:44:12,525 --> 00:44:15,688
whether it be America, UK, mainland,
1160
00:44:15,695 --> 00:44:18,904
actually ever thought
that it could be done.
1161
00:44:18,906 --> 00:44:21,489
- Now the critics are
forecasting our failure
1162
00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:22,903
two or three years from now,
1163
00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:24,526
so I think as long as you can
1164
00:44:24,537 --> 00:44:25,902
always keep your failure two
1165
00:44:25,913 --> 00:44:27,199
or three years in the future,
1166
00:44:27,206 --> 00:44:28,788
you're probably gonna do okay.
1167
00:44:28,791 --> 00:44:30,452
- I think DeLorean's problem
1168
00:44:30,459 --> 00:44:32,575
was at that time he needed cars,
1169
00:44:32,587 --> 00:44:33,952
and he needed cars in a hurry.
1170
00:44:33,963 --> 00:44:36,580
- You got to pick the
three or four big markets
1171
00:44:36,591 --> 00:44:37,422
and go after them.
1172
00:44:37,425 --> 00:44:39,917
We can't wait 14 months to start selling.
1173
00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:44,546
- It was a constant panic
of racing the clock,
1174
00:44:44,557 --> 00:44:47,015
and it was damn the torpedoes
1175
00:44:47,018 --> 00:44:49,225
and full speed ahead.
1176
00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:51,686
- [Woman] It was such a
process of building the car
1177
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:53,225
and seeing what was working
1178
00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:54,939
and what wasn't working.
1179
00:44:54,942 --> 00:44:56,853
- We've had problems on
the upper control arm
1180
00:44:56,861 --> 00:44:58,192
around the ball joint,
1181
00:44:58,196 --> 00:45:01,314
but we also had a torsion
rod failure at 41,000 cycles.
1182
00:45:01,324 --> 00:45:04,112
- Everybody knew that there
were gonna be problems.
1183
00:45:04,118 --> 00:45:05,734
The view you took was, well,
1184
00:45:05,745 --> 00:45:06,951
yeah, we expected this.
1185
00:45:06,954 --> 00:45:08,444
Fine, let's get on and fix it.
1186
00:45:09,498 --> 00:45:11,910
- It was crazy, absolutely crazy,
1187
00:45:11,918 --> 00:45:13,374
but it was exciting.
1188
00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:14,663
You were an operator on the floor
1189
00:45:14,670 --> 00:45:16,786
seeing that lovely stainless steel car
1190
00:45:16,797 --> 00:45:18,413
going together the way it should go.
1191
00:45:18,424 --> 00:45:19,880
That was very rewarding.
1192
00:45:20,801 --> 00:45:24,419
- You felt part of a family
when you went in there.
1193
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:26,467
There was absolutely no trouble,
1194
00:45:26,474 --> 00:45:28,681
no Protestant, Catholic divide.
1195
00:45:28,684 --> 00:45:31,051
- One of the proudest
achievements, 1 think,
1196
00:45:31,062 --> 00:45:35,181
of DeLorean is that it was
a form of social experiment.
1197
00:45:35,191 --> 00:45:37,808
You had for the first
time in Northern Ireland
1198
00:45:37,818 --> 00:45:39,149
Catholics and Protestants
1199
00:45:39,153 --> 00:45:41,064
working alongside each other.
1200
00:45:41,072 --> 00:45:43,609
The social experiment
was beginning to work.
1201
00:45:43,616 --> 00:45:46,904
You can have a mixed work
force and be successful.
1202
00:45:46,911 --> 00:45:50,620
- In two years and 11 months,
1203
00:45:50,623 --> 00:45:51,988
we had built a factory.
1204
00:45:53,125 --> 00:45:55,412
We had designed a car.
1205
00:45:55,419 --> 00:45:56,750
The cars were built,
1206
00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,872
and that was the best time
1207
00:45:59,882 --> 00:46:02,374
I've ever had working in any company.
1208
00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:08,130
- [Man] When the first
six cars came rolling out,
1209
00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:09,676
the news crews were all there.
1210
00:46:10,643 --> 00:46:11,974
John was the biggest hero
1211
00:46:11,978 --> 00:46:13,343
in Northern Ireland that day.
1212
00:46:14,355 --> 00:46:16,972
- It's incredible that he got 3,500 cars
1213
00:46:16,983 --> 00:46:19,065
into the United States on a boat,
1214
00:46:19,068 --> 00:46:21,184
and we actually sailed
on the damn boat too
1215
00:46:22,113 --> 00:46:26,152
because 1 just was so
excited to see that happen
1216
00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:30,402
'cause I knew he showed
them that he could do it.
1217
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:31,244
- [Man] Buyers are reported to be
1218
00:46:31,247 --> 00:46:32,737
queuing up in the United States
1219
00:46:32,748 --> 00:46:35,615
for the company's
futuristic Goldwing DMC-12.
1220
00:46:35,626 --> 00:46:38,334
- [Tamifl And DA. and Chris,
1221
00:46:38,337 --> 00:46:39,418
you watch their movie,
1222
00:46:39,422 --> 00:46:41,254
and the perception you get at the end
1223
00:46:41,257 --> 00:46:43,168
is this is a success.
1224
00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:45,086
- Everything was hunky dory,
1225
00:46:45,094 --> 00:46:46,926
and it was great, you know?
1226
00:46:46,929 --> 00:46:49,091
We'd succeeded in October '81.
1227
00:46:52,435 --> 00:46:56,303
(camera shutter clicking)
1228
00:46:56,314 --> 00:46:58,055
- [Woman] How is it?
1229
00:46:58,065 --> 00:47:01,228
- DeLorean is four or five little moves
1230
00:47:01,235 --> 00:47:03,021
away from victory.
1231
00:47:03,029 --> 00:47:04,394
(upbeat instrumental music)
1232
00:47:04,405 --> 00:47:06,316
He's on the doorstep of that victory.
1233
00:47:08,284 --> 00:47:11,026
In the music of it, it's like Bolero.
1234
00:47:12,413 --> 00:47:13,619
John just says (singing)-
1235
00:47:18,461 --> 00:47:20,043
We don't migrate from that.
1236
00:47:20,963 --> 00:47:23,204
He's played a pretty high stakes game,
1237
00:47:23,215 --> 00:47:25,877
and he really, really stays calm
1238
00:47:25,885 --> 00:47:27,876
and very contained,
1239
00:47:27,887 --> 00:47:30,470
and the drama is in him being contained
1240
00:47:30,473 --> 00:47:33,010
while everything collapsed around him.
1241
00:47:34,185 --> 00:47:36,392
- Things started to go south very quickly.
1242
00:47:37,355 --> 00:47:42,225
Around the fall of 1981,
1243
00:47:43,486 --> 00:47:45,898
there was a series of monumental cockups.
1244
00:47:45,905 --> 00:47:48,112
- [Man] So everything's going
really smoothly, but it's--
1245
00:47:48,115 --> 00:47:50,152
- Well, I wouldn't say smoothly.
1246
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:52,491
1 don't want to give the appearance
1247
00:47:52,495 --> 00:47:56,079
that everything's just absolutely perfect.
1248
00:47:57,041 --> 00:47:59,703
- When those cars first came off the boat,
1249
00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:02,577
they were just a product
warranty nightmare.
1250
00:48:02,588 --> 00:48:03,544
- The door won't close.
1251
00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:04,753
The gaps are all wrong.
1252
00:48:04,757 --> 00:48:06,668
The window wiper won't work.
1253
00:48:06,675 --> 00:48:09,042
The door mechanism won't work.
1254
00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:09,884
That happened.
1255
00:48:09,887 --> 00:48:11,548
It happened to me once,
getting stuck in the car.
1256
00:48:11,555 --> 00:48:13,637
Couldn't open the door, you know?
1257
00:48:13,641 --> 00:48:15,006
(car engine running)
1258
00:48:15,017 --> 00:48:16,303
- We reviewed the car.
1259
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:17,300
(brakes squeaking)
1260
00:48:17,311 --> 00:48:19,393
It costs more than a Corvette.
1261
00:48:19,397 --> 00:48:20,637
It didn't handle that great.
1262
00:48:20,648 --> 00:48:22,059
It was kind of slow.
1263
00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:25,855
- [Man] It was not the car he promised,
1264
00:48:25,861 --> 00:48:30,196
this fuel efficient, high performance car.
1265
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:32,065
- It started to go south
1266
00:48:32,076 --> 00:48:35,114
when this happened in the teeth
1267
00:48:35,121 --> 00:48:38,785
of a diminishing economy.
1268
00:48:38,791 --> 00:48:40,452
- [Man] Now the dream seems to be fading.
1269
00:48:40,459 --> 00:48:42,917
Sales are way down in the United States
1270
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,581
perhaps for economic reasons,
1271
00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:47,546
perhaps because of some
dissatisfaction with the car.
1272
00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:50,759
- In a scenario where
there's a few thousand cars
1273
00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:52,251
coming to the U.S.,
1274
00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:54,345
there's these quality control issues.
1275
00:48:54,348 --> 00:48:57,306
The lesson that should
have been learned from this
1276
00:48:57,309 --> 00:49:00,176
is let's slow production
down a little bit more.
1277
00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:01,268
Let's figure out a way
1278
00:49:01,272 --> 00:49:03,104
to work out all these issues.
1279
00:49:03,107 --> 00:49:05,895
Unfortunately, that's the opposite
1280
00:49:05,901 --> 00:49:07,562
of what John decided to do.
1281
00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,983
He pulled the trigger on
basically doubling production.
1282
00:49:10,990 --> 00:49:12,480
- [Man] And what happened?
1283
00:49:12,491 --> 00:49:17,452
These cars were backing up
like plague rats on the docks.
1284
00:49:17,997 --> 00:49:20,739
- And it was just the wrong, wrong move,
1285
00:49:20,749 --> 00:49:21,864
so the question has to be,
1286
00:49:21,876 --> 00:49:23,742
well, why did he do this?
1287
00:49:23,752 --> 00:49:25,117
It was a typical John move
1288
00:49:25,129 --> 00:49:28,042
because he saw a little angle
1289
00:49:28,048 --> 00:49:31,006
in the contract where
if you upped the amount
1290
00:49:31,010 --> 00:49:34,002
of people that were working
there and increased jobs,
1291
00:49:34,013 --> 00:49:34,844
then the government was
1292
00:49:34,847 --> 00:49:37,305
supposed to be giving
him an infusion of cash,
1293
00:49:37,308 --> 00:49:38,969
and so he thought he
was gonna take advantage
1294
00:49:38,976 --> 00:49:40,558
of this little clause.
1295
00:49:40,561 --> 00:49:42,848
- Anyone who deals with
the government knows
1296
00:49:42,855 --> 00:49:45,563
that that's a risk in itself.
1297
00:49:45,566 --> 00:49:46,931
What if the politics change?
1298
00:49:46,942 --> 00:49:48,899
What if the administration changes?
1299
00:49:49,820 --> 00:49:52,687
Well, Margaret Thatcher happened.
1300
00:49:54,492 --> 00:49:56,483
- We'd had a change of government by now.
1301
00:49:56,494 --> 00:49:58,405
The Conservatives were in power.
1302
00:49:58,412 --> 00:50:02,997
Margaret Thatcher, the arch
privateer, was prime minister.
1303
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,617
Between Margaret Thatcher
as prime minister and us,
1304
00:50:05,628 --> 00:50:06,959
there was a secretary of state
1305
00:50:06,962 --> 00:50:09,624
for Northern Ireland, James Prior.
1306
00:50:09,632 --> 00:50:12,215
- Well, I suppose my role with DeLorean
1307
00:50:12,218 --> 00:50:15,176
was to keep him under control.
1308
00:50:15,179 --> 00:50:18,638
The Labor government had started
off the DeLorean business.
1309
00:50:18,641 --> 00:50:21,929
The Conservative government
took a tougher line
1310
00:50:21,936 --> 00:50:26,521
towards subsidies for Northern
Ireland, for DeLorean.
1311
00:50:26,524 --> 00:50:28,686
- [Man] DeLorean wanted
another $76 million
1312
00:50:28,692 --> 00:50:30,103
from the British.
1313
00:50:30,110 --> 00:50:32,442
If not, he said, "There would be layoffs."
1314
00:50:32,446 --> 00:50:35,029
- 1 don't care about the
British taxpayers' money
1315
00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:35,863
or my own money.
1316
00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,072
1 think the most important thing
1317
00:50:37,076 --> 00:50:38,987
is we have some people there.
1318
00:50:38,994 --> 00:50:41,611
This is a very, very
important part of their life,
1319
00:50:41,622 --> 00:50:43,329
and nothing in the world
1320
00:50:43,332 --> 00:50:45,243
should be permitted to interfere with it.
1321
00:50:45,251 --> 00:50:48,118
- John overestimated the fact
1322
00:50:48,128 --> 00:50:51,211
that we had created jobs
1323
00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,207
and that it was the jobs that would secure
1324
00:50:55,427 --> 00:50:58,340
even more money to keep us alive.
1325
00:50:58,347 --> 00:51:01,089
That was not the way
Margaret Thatcher saw it.
1326
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:03,341
- She genuinely took the view
1327
00:51:03,352 --> 00:51:04,592
that we couldn't go on
1328
00:51:04,603 --> 00:51:06,890
pouring a lot of money after bad,
1329
00:51:07,856 --> 00:51:09,472
and in the end, we had to say no.
1330
00:51:10,943 --> 00:51:12,149
- The result?
1331
00:51:12,152 --> 00:51:13,438
We ran out of cash.
1332
00:51:14,446 --> 00:51:17,529
Therefore, we were heading for insolvency,
1333
00:51:18,492 --> 00:51:19,903
and that's at the point
1334
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:22,368
when things got very serious indeed.
1335
00:51:24,540 --> 00:51:26,030
(tape whirring)
1336
00:51:26,041 --> 00:51:27,748
- [John] We have a group right now
1337
00:51:27,751 --> 00:51:28,912
that has got the ability
1338
00:51:28,919 --> 00:51:32,253
to come up with for sure 30 million
1339
00:51:32,256 --> 00:51:33,963
and upwards of there.
1340
00:51:35,718 --> 00:51:37,880
- And during this whole process,
1341
00:51:37,886 --> 00:51:40,253
John's back was really
up against the wall.
1342
00:51:40,264 --> 00:51:41,425
He had to figure out a way
1343
00:51:41,432 --> 00:51:42,888
to pay some of the money back
1344
00:51:42,891 --> 00:51:43,722
to the British government
1345
00:51:43,726 --> 00:51:45,387
as well as present to them
1346
00:51:45,394 --> 00:51:47,886
a feasible way to keep the company open
1347
00:51:47,896 --> 00:51:49,386
and make it profitable,
1348
00:51:49,398 --> 00:51:50,888
or else they were threatening
1349
00:51:50,899 --> 00:51:53,391
to come in, seize the factory,
1350
00:51:53,402 --> 00:51:54,813
liquidate the assets,
1351
00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:56,606
and everyone was gonna be out of a job.
1352
00:51:56,614 --> 00:51:58,196
- [Man] Today DeLorean said he is looking
1353
00:51:58,198 --> 00:51:59,609
for outside financing.
1354
00:51:59,617 --> 00:52:01,449
- [John] All I want to do
is keep the factory open
1355
00:52:01,452 --> 00:52:03,363
so that people can work, nothing else.
1356
00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:05,111
- [Man] You last said that
you'd keep the factory open
1357
00:52:05,122 --> 00:52:06,487
if it was your last breath.
1358
00:52:06,498 --> 00:52:07,704
Do you still stand by that?
1359
00:52:07,708 --> 00:52:08,869
- [John] I'm still trying.
1360
00:52:08,876 --> 00:52:10,958
- During the months of
sort of August, September,
1361
00:52:10,961 --> 00:52:15,205
we'd had periodic contact
with John DeLorean.
1362
00:52:15,215 --> 00:52:19,960
He on a regular basis was coming
up with potential funders.
1363
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:21,256
- [Man] It's been a
lot of time and effort,
1364
00:52:21,263 --> 00:52:22,378
but 1 think we're now just
1365
00:52:22,389 --> 00:52:27,099
starting out on a very
successful relationship.
1366
00:52:27,102 --> 00:52:27,933
- [John] Oh, 1 think so, too.
1367
00:52:27,936 --> 00:52:29,426
- [Man] It just took a
while to put it together,
1368
00:52:29,438 --> 00:52:30,269
and that's all.
1369
00:52:30,272 --> 00:52:34,015
- The workers and the
people closest to him at DMC
1370
00:52:34,026 --> 00:52:34,857
were being told,
1371
00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:36,726
"Hey, listen, everything's gonna be fine.
1372
00:52:36,737 --> 00:52:39,650
"I definitely have the
sources coming through."
1373
00:52:39,657 --> 00:52:42,900
- And we were still at the stage
1374
00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:45,151
where we were hoping and hoping
1375
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:46,994
that it would go all right.
1376
00:52:46,997 --> 00:52:48,738
- [John] In terms of having that,
1377
00:52:48,749 --> 00:52:50,365
the first 10 million,
1378
00:52:50,376 --> 00:52:53,494
it sounds like that's
gonna be Tuesday, right?
1379
00:52:53,504 --> 00:52:54,585
- [Man] I would say I should be able
1380
00:52:54,588 --> 00:52:56,374
to get that going very quick.
1381
00:52:56,382 --> 00:52:58,168
- [Barrie] The impression
we got at that time
1382
00:52:58,175 --> 00:52:59,165
was that John had pretty well
1383
00:52:59,176 --> 00:53:04,091
gotten the money by the
17th of October, 1982.
1384
00:53:08,394 --> 00:53:12,137
(dramatic instrumental music)
1385
00:53:19,196 --> 00:53:21,813
(phone ringing)
1386
00:53:26,704 --> 00:53:27,489
- Hello?
1387
00:53:31,542 --> 00:53:32,327
What?
1388
00:53:41,552 --> 00:53:44,260
What are you talking about?
1389
00:53:44,263 --> 00:53:48,257
- We were in the city in
the apartment at 8:34.
1390
00:53:49,727 --> 00:53:50,683
The phone rings.
1391
00:53:52,187 --> 00:53:53,302
Mom, who was that?
1392
00:53:54,606 --> 00:53:58,144
And one phone call,
1393
00:53:59,611 --> 00:54:01,397
my life changed forever.
1394
00:54:01,405 --> 00:54:02,486
(camera shutters flashing)
1395
00:54:02,489 --> 00:54:04,355
- [Man] John DeLorean
was arrested yesterday
1396
00:54:04,366 --> 00:54:06,528
after he met with undercover drug agents
1397
00:54:06,535 --> 00:54:07,866
who DeLorean apparently thought
1398
00:54:07,870 --> 00:54:08,826
were going to help him make
1399
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:11,196
a huge profit in a cocaine deal
1400
00:54:11,206 --> 00:54:13,868
involving more than 100 kilos of cocaine.
1401
00:54:13,876 --> 00:54:16,038
DeLorean's wife, Cristina Ferrare,
1402
00:54:16,044 --> 00:54:17,079
an actress and model,
1403
00:54:17,087 --> 00:54:19,294
arrived in Los Angeles early this morning.
1404
00:54:19,298 --> 00:54:20,129
- Wait a minute.
1405
00:54:20,132 --> 00:54:21,167
Wait a minute.
1406
00:54:21,175 --> 00:54:23,212
1 just found out a few hours ago.
1407
00:54:23,218 --> 00:54:24,333
1 know nothing.
1408
00:54:24,344 --> 00:54:25,505
I caught a plane.
1409
00:54:25,512 --> 00:54:26,343
I'm here.
1410
00:54:26,346 --> 00:54:27,177
I'm--
1411
00:54:27,181 --> 00:54:28,671
- Everybody was in total shock.
1412
00:54:28,682 --> 00:54:31,549
Nowhere in our wildest dreams did we think
1413
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,346
anything like this would occur.
1414
00:54:33,353 --> 00:54:35,219
- [Man] John DeLorean
may be the perfect proof
1415
00:54:35,230 --> 00:54:36,186
of the old saying,
1416
00:54:36,190 --> 00:54:37,271
"The bigger they come,
1417
00:54:37,274 --> 00:54:38,764
"the harder they fall,"
1418
00:54:38,776 --> 00:54:39,607
and we might add,
1419
00:54:39,610 --> 00:54:41,692
"the more people want to hear about it."
1420
00:54:41,695 --> 00:54:42,901
- It was just disbelief,
1421
00:54:44,448 --> 00:54:47,440
and then the news just progressively
1422
00:54:47,451 --> 00:54:48,816
got worse and worse and worse.
1423
00:54:48,827 --> 00:54:52,616
- He was expressing an
interest in financing
1424
00:54:52,623 --> 00:54:54,284
some type of operation
1425
00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:58,125
that would produce quickly
large sums of money
1426
00:54:58,128 --> 00:55:00,369
on return from the investment.
1427
00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:03,714
- 1 was shocked out of my socks
1428
00:55:04,676 --> 00:55:07,885
to see him there in this position that,
1429
00:55:07,888 --> 00:55:09,549
I'd never seen him in anything
1430
00:55:09,556 --> 00:55:12,298
except being pretty much
on top of the world.
1431
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:14,016
- The sensational case involves
1432
00:55:14,019 --> 00:55:16,351
more than 200 pounds of cocaine,
1433
00:55:16,355 --> 00:55:18,346
an elaborate undercover investigation,
1434
00:55:18,357 --> 00:55:20,348
the end of the DeLorean car,
1435
00:55:20,359 --> 00:55:21,895
and much, much more.
1436
00:55:28,116 --> 00:55:30,858
- It's been said, it's a cliche now,
1437
00:55:30,869 --> 00:55:33,736
that the dream had
turned into a nightmare.
1438
00:55:34,998 --> 00:55:36,955
Could you imagine how we felt
1439
00:55:36,959 --> 00:55:38,825
seeing John DeLorean,
1440
00:55:38,836 --> 00:55:42,124
our angel, I feel like?
1441
00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:43,871
There he was going away,
1442
00:55:43,882 --> 00:55:46,499
and everybody was downtrodden
1443
00:55:46,510 --> 00:55:50,799
because we felt sure
that he had done so much.
1444
00:55:50,806 --> 00:55:52,672
He'd come through again,
1445
00:55:52,683 --> 00:55:55,516
but this time, unfortunately, he didn't.
1446
00:55:57,020 --> 00:55:58,055
- [Woman] Well, you're
walking out of the plant
1447
00:55:58,063 --> 00:55:58,894
for the last time today.
1448
00:55:58,897 --> 00:55:59,728
How do you feel about it?
1449
00:55:59,731 --> 00:56:00,562
- We got nothing.
1450
00:56:00,566 --> 00:56:01,977
- Pretty upset.
1451
00:56:01,984 --> 00:56:03,474
- [Woman] What're your chances
of getting another job now?
1452
00:56:03,485 --> 00:56:04,395
- None at all.
1453
00:56:04,403 --> 00:56:05,643
- [Man] Not very good at all.
1454
00:56:05,654 --> 00:56:07,986
- I had to go into the plant that morning,
1455
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:09,572
call the people together.
1456
00:56:09,575 --> 00:56:11,782
They'd all heard the
same thing, of course,
1457
00:56:12,828 --> 00:56:14,694
and it really was the end.
1458
00:56:15,998 --> 00:56:18,535
- 1 was going around with a auctioneer,
1459
00:56:18,542 --> 00:56:21,159
and he was putting tags
1460
00:56:21,169 --> 00:56:22,534
on every piece of equipment,
1461
00:56:24,047 --> 00:56:25,333
and that was my last day.
1462
00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:29,796
- The expectation of everybody
1463
00:56:29,803 --> 00:56:31,339
working their hearts out over there
1464
00:56:31,346 --> 00:56:33,678
to get these cars built
to a good standard,
1465
00:56:33,682 --> 00:56:37,095
and they felt it was gonna be their life,
1466
00:56:39,187 --> 00:56:40,018
and it all fell apart,
1467
00:56:40,022 --> 00:56:41,763
and it was incredibly sad.
1468
00:56:45,277 --> 00:56:47,018
- I meet up with people now and then
1469
00:56:47,029 --> 00:56:51,068
that either they worked there
1470
00:56:51,074 --> 00:56:52,064
or their dad worked there
1471
00:56:52,075 --> 00:56:54,191
or their grandad worked there,
1472
00:56:54,202 --> 00:56:55,317
and you get the same questions.
1473
00:56:55,329 --> 00:56:56,160
"What was it really like?"
1474
00:56:56,163 --> 00:56:59,406
It was the best job that we ever had,
1475
00:56:59,416 --> 00:57:01,407
and it was the worst day of their lives
1476
00:57:01,418 --> 00:57:03,204
when it finally closed.
1477
00:57:08,175 --> 00:57:09,916
- [Man] After entering
a plea of not guilty
1478
00:57:09,927 --> 00:57:12,009
to all nine drug charges against him,
1479
00:57:12,012 --> 00:57:14,003
John DeLorean came out
of the federal courthouse
1480
00:57:14,014 --> 00:57:15,721
in Los Angeles with his wife,
1481
00:57:15,724 --> 00:57:17,340
model Cristina Ferrare,
1482
00:57:17,351 --> 00:57:18,386
and the four lawyers
1483
00:57:18,393 --> 00:57:20,259
who are now putting together his defense.
1484
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:22,056
DeLorean said nothing today,
1485
00:57:22,064 --> 00:57:23,725
but he is reported to
have told his lawyers
1486
00:57:23,732 --> 00:57:25,848
he was desperate to save his company.
1487
00:57:25,859 --> 00:57:27,566
DeLorean's lawyers are preparing to argue
1488
00:57:27,569 --> 00:57:30,061
the government entrapped DeLorean.
1489
00:57:30,072 --> 00:57:30,982
- [Man] Give him some room, guys.
1490
00:57:30,989 --> 00:57:31,820
Give him some room.
1491
00:57:31,823 --> 00:57:32,654
Come on.
1492
00:57:32,658 --> 00:57:35,616
- It was the case of the
century for that year
1493
00:57:36,536 --> 00:57:38,493
'cause every year has
a case of the century,
1494
00:57:38,497 --> 00:57:40,283
trial of the century,
1495
00:57:40,290 --> 00:57:43,874
so we were the trial of
the century for 1984.
1496
00:57:43,877 --> 00:57:45,663
- [Man] The sidewalks in
front of the courthouse
1497
00:57:45,671 --> 00:57:47,161
will be jammed with reporters
1498
00:57:47,172 --> 00:57:49,379
and camera crews from all over the world.
1499
00:57:49,383 --> 00:57:50,965
- Unless you were there and you lived it,
1500
00:57:50,968 --> 00:57:52,834
you don't know how captivating
1501
00:57:52,844 --> 00:57:55,085
it was for the nation.
1502
00:57:55,097 --> 00:57:56,428
- [Man] A young entrepreneur started
1503
00:57:56,431 --> 00:57:58,217
hanging around the courthouse steps today
1504
00:57:58,225 --> 00:57:59,681
hawking buttons that say,
1505
00:57:59,685 --> 00:58:02,177
"John Z. DeLorean Cocaine
Trafficking Trial,
1506
00:58:02,187 --> 00:58:03,894
"Los Angeles, '84."
1507
00:58:03,897 --> 00:58:08,391
- Our public views these
as if it's a bad guy,
1508
00:58:08,402 --> 00:58:11,144
get them, and if it's not a bad guy,
1509
00:58:11,154 --> 00:58:12,064
get the government.
1510
00:58:12,072 --> 00:58:14,860
It's all really kind of
entertainment to the public.
1511
00:58:14,866 --> 00:58:17,824
- John DeLorean had some bad news today.
1512
00:58:17,828 --> 00:58:18,943
(audience groaning)
1513
00:58:18,954 --> 00:58:21,912
The Automobile Association
named him dealer of the year.
1514
00:58:21,915 --> 00:58:25,249
(audience laughing)
1515
00:58:25,252 --> 00:58:26,742
- A businessman down on his luck
1516
00:58:26,753 --> 00:58:28,619
tries to make money in a dope deal.
1517
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:32,589
1 mean, that's the John
DeLorean that 1 knew.
1518
00:58:32,592 --> 00:58:33,423
- [Man] Okay, you know how--
1519
00:58:33,427 --> 00:58:35,668
- [Robert] The case was
of overwhelming strength.
1520
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:36,510
(mumbling)
1521
00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:38,220
Here's the cocaine,
1522
00:58:38,223 --> 00:58:39,964
and here's your target,
1523
00:58:39,975 --> 00:58:43,468
and he's holding up a glass
of champagne, toasting.
1524
00:58:44,563 --> 00:58:46,304
- To a lot of success for everybody.
1525
00:58:46,314 --> 00:58:48,806
- And says that this is better than,
1526
00:58:48,817 --> 00:58:49,648
what was it?
1527
00:58:49,651 --> 00:58:51,437
Better than something.
1528
00:58:51,445 --> 00:58:52,480
- Is it better than gold?
1529
00:58:52,487 --> 00:58:53,318
(laughing)
1530
00:58:53,321 --> 00:58:55,813
Gold weighs more than
that, for God's sakes.
1531
00:58:55,824 --> 00:58:58,407
- Everybody believed that the events
1532
00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:00,242
were showing John DeLorean
1533
00:59:00,245 --> 00:59:02,407
in the middle of a drug deal.
1534
00:59:02,414 --> 00:59:03,745
One of the things 1 asked
1535
00:59:03,749 --> 00:59:05,706
the jurors very early on was,
1536
00:59:05,709 --> 00:59:07,871
would it surprise you if I told you
1537
00:59:07,878 --> 00:59:09,789
you weren't seeing a drug deal?
1538
00:59:09,796 --> 00:59:12,584
And just hang on and
watch the whole movie,
1539
00:59:12,591 --> 00:59:14,207
and at the end,
1540
00:59:14,217 --> 00:59:17,881
you're gonna see it isn't
what it appeared to be,
1541
00:59:17,888 --> 00:59:20,004
a real thriller, of course,
1542
00:59:20,015 --> 00:59:21,301
which it turned out to be.
1543
00:59:22,434 --> 00:59:25,426
(upbeat instrumental music)
1544
00:59:25,437 --> 00:59:28,975
(phone clicking)
1545
00:59:28,982 --> 00:59:33,852
- The case starts with a
guy named James Hoffman.
1546
00:59:33,862 --> 00:59:36,399
He was the informant.
1547
00:59:36,406 --> 00:59:40,570
He was somebody who had been
a major narcotics trafficker
1548
00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:44,070
who had the bad luck of being caught,
1549
00:59:44,081 --> 00:59:46,573
and he decided to cooperate.
1550
00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:47,493
- [John] Valestra.
1551
00:59:47,501 --> 00:59:48,866
- Mr. Valestra.
1552
00:59:48,877 --> 00:59:51,414
It's Jim Hoffman, your favorite CI.
1553
00:59:51,421 --> 00:59:52,252
- [John] Uh huh.
1554
00:59:52,255 --> 00:59:54,496
- You're not gonna believe
who I had a call with.
1555
00:59:56,051 --> 00:59:58,213
John DeLorean.
1556
00:59:58,220 --> 01:00:00,552
- When I got the call from the CI,
1557
01:00:02,849 --> 01:00:04,305
who's a neighbor of his.
1558
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:07,176
- We were neighbors
out here in California.
1559
01:00:08,271 --> 01:00:10,228
I was across from his
ranch in Pauma Valley--
1560
01:00:10,232 --> 01:00:11,643
- He says to me, the CI,
1561
01:00:11,650 --> 01:00:13,357
that John needs some money,
1562
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:17,027
and the inference of
drugs was right there.
1563
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:18,737
- [Jim] You seen the kind of dire straits
1564
01:00:18,740 --> 01:00:20,230
his company's in right now.
1565
01:00:20,242 --> 01:00:21,073
- [John] Uh huh.
1566
01:00:21,076 --> 01:00:22,817
- He needs cash bad,
1567
01:00:22,828 --> 01:00:25,115
and he doesn't care where it comes from.
1568
01:00:26,373 --> 01:00:28,034
He's gonna be back in Pauma Valley
1569
01:00:28,041 --> 01:00:29,281
at his ranch next week.
1570
01:00:29,292 --> 01:00:30,407
He wants to meet me.
1571
01:00:30,418 --> 01:00:31,704
We've already set it up.
1572
01:00:31,711 --> 01:00:33,042
' [John] Seriously, Jim?
1573
01:00:33,046 --> 01:00:34,252
You're kidding me.
1574
01:00:34,256 --> 01:00:36,213
- My hand to God.
1575
01:00:36,216 --> 01:00:37,047
This is happening.
1576
01:00:37,050 --> 01:00:39,838
- I said, well, see what he's got to say.
1577
01:00:39,845 --> 01:00:40,676
Go ahead.
1578
01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:41,589
See what he has to say.
1579
01:00:41,596 --> 01:00:43,587
- Have 1 ever done you guys wrong before?
1580
01:00:44,558 --> 01:00:46,014
I'll be in touch.
1581
01:00:46,017 --> 01:00:47,348
(upbeat instrumental music)
1582
01:00:47,352 --> 01:00:48,888
- [Ronald] (mumbling) bring to
the attention of (mumbling).
1583
01:00:48,895 --> 01:00:51,512
- [Tamir] So at this point, it's 1982.
1584
01:00:51,523 --> 01:00:54,015
Reagan's just announced the war on drugs.
1585
01:00:54,025 --> 01:00:55,686
- Together in a comprehensive attack
1586
01:00:55,694 --> 01:00:58,152
on drug trafficking and organized crime.
1587
01:00:58,155 --> 01:00:59,395
- [Tamir] In this time period,
1588
01:00:59,406 --> 01:01:02,194
a confidential informant
like James Hoffman
1589
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,861
can actually make a living
1590
01:01:03,869 --> 01:01:06,952
by introducing the DEA
to high level criminals.
1591
01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:07,865
- John.
1592
01:01:07,873 --> 01:01:09,079
(mumbling)
1593
01:01:09,082 --> 01:01:09,947
John, great to see you.
1594
01:01:09,958 --> 01:01:11,949
- You too, Jim, been a while.
1595
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,200
- [Tamir] And in this case,
1596
01:01:13,211 --> 01:01:16,078
it's the perfect storm for John DeLorean.
1597
01:01:16,089 --> 01:01:18,501
- Bring problems in these
areas to my attention.
1598
01:01:18,508 --> 01:01:21,000
- When Jim first approached John,
1599
01:01:21,011 --> 01:01:23,594
it seemed like a very farfetched idea
1600
01:01:23,597 --> 01:01:25,759
that he'd be actually
able to help John out.
1601
01:01:25,765 --> 01:01:26,800
- These investors--
1602
01:01:26,808 --> 01:01:29,220
- [Tamir] But Jim was
throwing out some numbers
1603
01:01:29,227 --> 01:01:31,514
that seemed very alluring to John.
1604
01:01:31,521 --> 01:01:34,058
- 10, 20, 50 million.
1605
01:01:35,275 --> 01:01:36,857
- I thought your investors might like
1606
01:01:36,860 --> 01:01:39,147
to see these brochures
that we have made up
1607
01:01:39,154 --> 01:01:41,566
that really can show you
how we're all set to--
1608
01:01:41,573 --> 01:01:43,063
- Yeah, there's no need.
1609
01:01:44,034 --> 01:01:45,524
They're not exactly the kind of guys
1610
01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:48,869
that get hung up on paperwork, you know?
1611
01:01:48,872 --> 01:01:50,283
They're Colombian.
1612
01:01:50,290 --> 01:01:52,748
(singing)
1613
01:01:52,751 --> 01:01:54,742
- They in the coffee business?
1614
01:01:54,753 --> 01:01:55,743
- You might say that.
1615
01:01:55,754 --> 01:01:57,119
(laughing)
1616
01:01:57,130 --> 01:02:02,000
- They met, and the first
conversation was not recorded,
1617
01:02:02,010 --> 01:02:03,842
so we don't really know what was said.
1618
01:02:04,971 --> 01:02:08,009
- And it was when Hoffman
then met with DeLorean.
1619
01:02:08,016 --> 01:02:10,974
At that point, Hoffman
comes back to Valestra,
1620
01:02:10,977 --> 01:02:13,719
and says, "Yeah, he wants to talk dope."
1621
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:14,561
- I say, really?
1622
01:02:14,564 --> 01:02:16,805
1 mean, we“, if he said that,
1623
01:02:16,816 --> 01:02:20,810
we'd better let him
say it again somewhere,
1624
01:02:21,947 --> 01:02:23,153
which we did.
1625
01:02:23,156 --> 01:02:23,941
(mumbling)
1626
01:02:23,949 --> 01:02:24,780
' [John] HOW you doing?
1627
01:02:24,783 --> 01:02:25,614
- [Man] We're great.
1628
01:02:25,617 --> 01:02:26,448
- [John] What am 1 doing,
1629
01:02:26,451 --> 01:02:27,282
interrupting your lunch?
1630
01:02:27,285 --> 01:02:28,116
- [Man] No--
1631
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:28,950
- [John] And on September 4th,
1632
01:02:28,954 --> 01:02:31,412
the meeting at the
Lafont Plaza takes place.
1633
01:02:31,414 --> 01:02:33,155
That's a one on one meeting
1634
01:02:33,166 --> 01:02:35,578
with the CI and John.
1635
01:02:35,585 --> 01:02:36,416
- There aren't many people
1636
01:02:36,419 --> 01:02:38,285
that can pick up the phone
1637
01:02:38,296 --> 01:02:40,287
and get $30 million in three or four days
1638
01:02:40,298 --> 01:02:41,254
without a lot of hassle.
1639
01:02:41,258 --> 01:02:42,589
- [John] 1 can't think of any,
1640
01:02:42,592 --> 01:02:43,673
to be honest with you.
1641
01:02:43,677 --> 01:02:44,587
- That's right.
1642
01:02:44,594 --> 01:02:47,507
- That video, that's
pretty explicit stuff.
1643
01:02:48,848 --> 01:02:50,759
The CI writes it all out,
1644
01:02:50,767 --> 01:02:53,725
and the scenarios are
right there on the paper.
1645
01:02:53,728 --> 01:02:55,264
- [Jim] So we can take 34 kilos.
1646
01:02:57,524 --> 01:02:59,310
When you initially asked
me what it would take,
1647
01:02:59,317 --> 01:03:02,275
and 1 said, we“, about 1.75 to two,
1648
01:03:05,740 --> 01:03:07,697
here this would be coming,
1649
01:03:07,701 --> 01:03:11,740
so you're really gonna receive 40--
1650
01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:12,907
- During this period of time,
1651
01:03:12,914 --> 01:03:17,875
John now is supposed to
come up with the 1.8 mil.
1652
01:03:18,336 --> 01:03:20,293
That was where it was left,
1653
01:03:20,297 --> 01:03:22,288
so he'd have to put some skin in the game.
1654
01:03:22,299 --> 01:03:25,758
- Nobody wants you to do something
1655
01:03:27,345 --> 01:03:30,133
that you're uncomfortable with.
1656
01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:32,848
- I'm relying on you saying
1657
01:03:32,851 --> 01:03:34,762
that there is no way to connect me
1658
01:03:34,769 --> 01:03:37,136
to this at the end.
1659
01:03:37,147 --> 01:03:37,978
That's why--
1660
01:03:37,981 --> 01:03:39,938
- Well, you're not gonna
be handling the product.
1661
01:03:39,941 --> 01:03:40,772
(mumbling)
1662
01:03:40,775 --> 01:03:42,607
- Government attorneys in
the John DeLorean trial
1663
01:03:42,610 --> 01:03:44,146
today introduced a videotape
1664
01:03:44,154 --> 01:03:45,895
that is perhaps the most damaging evidence
1665
01:03:45,905 --> 01:03:47,441
against the auto executive.
1666
01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:48,564
The tape was played as part
1667
01:03:48,575 --> 01:03:50,111
of the testimony of James Hoffman,
1668
01:03:50,118 --> 01:03:51,449
a paid undercover informer
1669
01:03:51,453 --> 01:03:54,161
who was the government's key
witness against DeLorean.
1670
01:03:54,164 --> 01:03:56,826
Defense attorneys describe the
meeting in Washington, D.C.,
1671
01:03:56,833 --> 01:03:59,245
between John DeLorean and
the undercover informant
1672
01:03:59,252 --> 01:04:00,663
as a clever lure,
1673
01:04:00,670 --> 01:04:02,286
and as for DeLorean's participation
1674
01:04:02,297 --> 01:04:03,287
in that discussion,
1675
01:04:03,298 --> 01:04:04,504
the defense team says,
1676
01:04:04,507 --> 01:04:06,498
"There's no harm in
listening to someone else
1677
01:04:06,509 --> 01:04:08,375
"talk about a drug deal."
1678
01:04:08,386 --> 01:04:11,094
(birds chirping)
1679
01:04:12,891 --> 01:04:13,722
(mumbling)
1680
01:04:13,725 --> 01:04:16,057
- For three months during the trial,
1681
01:04:16,061 --> 01:04:18,393
we moved to my grandmother's,
1682
01:04:18,396 --> 01:04:21,263
grandfather's house in Brentwood.
1683
01:04:21,274 --> 01:04:23,390
I play it all out in my head all the time.
1684
01:04:23,401 --> 01:04:24,641
Something will come up,
1685
01:04:24,652 --> 01:04:26,063
and I'll start thinking about stuff,
1686
01:04:26,071 --> 01:04:28,904
and it'll spark a memory
1687
01:04:28,907 --> 01:04:29,897
or trigger something.
1688
01:04:31,034 --> 01:04:33,150
- Guys, no matter what happens,
1689
01:04:33,161 --> 01:04:35,402
hey, we're gonna be fine.
1690
01:04:35,413 --> 01:04:36,744
Everything's gonna be fine.
1691
01:04:40,835 --> 01:04:42,872
- My father was looking at hard core time,
1692
01:04:44,214 --> 01:04:45,124
and to my parents' credit,
1693
01:04:45,131 --> 01:04:46,337
they did what they could
1694
01:04:46,341 --> 01:04:49,925
to make it as best a
situation as they could.
1695
01:04:51,346 --> 01:04:52,632
How the fuck do you tell your kid
1696
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:54,721
that shit ain't okay?
1697
01:04:56,518 --> 01:04:57,929
- He just asked me if we're
1698
01:04:57,936 --> 01:05:00,098
both coming back from court or--
1699
01:05:00,105 --> 01:05:02,187
- 1 am not going away for this.
1700
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:04,181
The jury will see how asinine
1701
01:05:04,192 --> 01:05:05,057
this whole thing is
1702
01:05:05,068 --> 01:05:07,935
and how they set up an
innocent man, for God's sakes.
1703
01:05:10,949 --> 01:05:12,360
What do you think about this tie?
1704
01:05:14,619 --> 01:05:15,404
- It's fine.
1705
01:05:16,538 --> 01:05:17,369
- You're sure the brown works?
1706
01:05:17,372 --> 01:05:18,612
I mean, I had a blue one on
1707
01:05:18,623 --> 01:05:19,658
when they snapped this picture,
1708
01:05:19,666 --> 01:05:20,576
but they can't tell
1709
01:05:20,583 --> 01:05:22,073
'cause it's in black and white.
1710
01:05:23,002 --> 01:05:23,958
- Either way.
1711
01:05:23,962 --> 01:05:25,828
- I don't want it to read black.
1712
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:28,251
1 mean, 1 don't want to
send the wrong message.
1713
01:05:28,258 --> 01:05:29,589
- To who, the judge?
1714
01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:30,423
- No, to everyone.
1715
01:05:30,427 --> 01:05:31,713
Next time they snap my picture,
1716
01:05:31,719 --> 01:05:33,084
it could be a magazine cover.
1717
01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:34,757
- John, either one works fine.
1718
01:05:34,764 --> 01:05:36,505
- 'Cause it'll be in
color if it's a magazine.
1719
01:05:36,516 --> 01:05:38,052
- HEY-
1720
01:05:38,059 --> 01:05:39,766
You have to talk to the children.
1721
01:05:49,237 --> 01:05:51,478
- Kathryn, come and give
Mommy a hug, sweetie.
1722
01:05:51,489 --> 01:05:52,650
She seems pretty upset.
1723
01:05:56,744 --> 01:05:59,156
Zach, 1 know you're worried,
1724
01:05:59,164 --> 01:05:59,995
but I need you pulling
1725
01:05:59,998 --> 01:06:02,535
for your old man to win
this thing all right?
1726
01:06:02,542 --> 01:06:04,533
- 1 just want to go back to New Jersey.
1727
01:06:04,544 --> 01:06:05,784
- So do I, and we will
1728
01:06:05,795 --> 01:06:08,036
as soon as this thing is over, all right?
1729
01:06:08,047 --> 01:06:09,082
Zach, look at me.
1730
01:06:10,592 --> 01:06:12,174
Your dad's a winner, right?
1731
01:06:16,848 --> 01:06:18,304
- For me, it's a double edged sword
1732
01:06:18,308 --> 01:06:20,470
that I walk all the time.
1733
01:06:20,477 --> 01:06:22,559
The evidence is there
that they set him up,
1734
01:06:25,482 --> 01:06:28,395
but common sense and reality tells me
1735
01:06:28,401 --> 01:06:30,267
that he's not a fucking idiot,
1736
01:06:30,278 --> 01:06:31,518
that he must have known something
1737
01:06:31,529 --> 01:06:33,486
was fucked up at some time.
1738
01:06:33,490 --> 01:06:34,321
- Come here, sweetie.
1739
01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:35,940
- [John] I'm gonna wear
the blue tie, okay?
1740
01:06:35,950 --> 01:06:36,735
- [Zach] So it's like, you know,
1741
01:06:36,743 --> 01:06:38,108
how the fuck could you put our family
1742
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:39,325
in jeopardy like that?
1743
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,742
- [Man] 21 days into the
John DeLorean cocaine trial,
1744
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:45,115
Defense Attorney Howard Weitzman says
1745
01:06:45,126 --> 01:06:45,991
there's no question that
1746
01:06:46,002 --> 01:06:48,209
John DeLorean can be
seen and heard on tape
1747
01:06:48,213 --> 01:06:49,703
talking about narcotics,
1748
01:06:49,714 --> 01:06:50,749
but he says, "The question is
1749
01:06:50,757 --> 01:06:53,749
"how far can the government
go in dangling a lure
1750
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,501
"in front of a desperate man?"
1751
01:06:55,512 --> 01:06:57,844
- When I look back at this case,
1752
01:06:57,847 --> 01:07:00,839
Hoffman had said if you give
me a million and a half,
1753
01:07:00,850 --> 01:07:03,387
$2 million, $3 million,
1754
01:07:03,394 --> 01:07:06,261
I can get you 10, 15, $20 million back.
1755
01:07:06,272 --> 01:07:08,058
John didn't have the money,
1756
01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:11,104
and logic would tell
you that that's the end
1757
01:07:11,110 --> 01:07:12,350
of the investigation.
1758
01:07:12,362 --> 01:07:14,569
(mumbling)
1759
01:07:15,865 --> 01:07:19,278
(phone ringing)
1760
01:07:19,285 --> 01:07:21,993
(liquid pouring)
1761
01:07:24,999 --> 01:07:26,956
- Are you sure he can't put any cash in?
1762
01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:29,000
- At this point,
1763
01:07:29,003 --> 01:07:32,041
I don't think DeLorean
could scrounge 20 Gs,
1764
01:07:32,048 --> 01:07:33,083
let alone two million.
1765
01:07:35,301 --> 01:07:37,508
- Listen, I've been pouring
through all these tapes,
1766
01:07:37,512 --> 01:07:39,173
and I just don't think we have him yet.
1767
01:07:40,348 --> 01:07:42,055
- I think he's got it in collateral.
1768
01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:44,766
- Okay, but if collateral's all we get,
1769
01:07:44,769 --> 01:07:46,806
then it's got to equal at least that much,
1770
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:50,556
and listen to me.
1771
01:07:50,567 --> 01:07:52,729
We have got to get it on tape.
1772
01:07:52,735 --> 01:07:54,271
- This is not my first rodeo, Jerry.
1773
01:07:54,279 --> 01:07:56,441
1 know how it works.
1774
01:07:56,447 --> 01:07:57,528
- I'm just saying.
1775
01:07:57,532 --> 01:07:59,273
Until now he's been real careful
1776
01:07:59,284 --> 01:08:02,242
about how he parses all his words, so--
1777
01:08:03,371 --> 01:08:05,362
- Well, it's different
than a phone call now.
1778
01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:07,956
He's about to walk into a real bank.
1779
01:08:07,959 --> 01:08:09,495
He knows your IC is legit,
1780
01:08:09,502 --> 01:08:11,334
so he won't for one
second think that I'm not.
1781
01:08:11,337 --> 01:08:12,919
- Still, the more drug references
1782
01:08:12,922 --> 01:08:14,708
you can slip in, the better.
1783
01:08:14,716 --> 01:08:15,797
- We got this, Jerry.
1784
01:08:17,051 --> 01:08:19,258
(laughing)
1785
01:08:21,389 --> 01:08:22,504
- [Tamir] Throughout the entire thing,
1786
01:08:22,515 --> 01:08:24,631
they had to continue changing the script.
1787
01:08:24,642 --> 01:08:25,552
It wasn't gonna be,
1788
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,891
"Here's the $2 million.
1789
01:08:26,894 --> 01:08:28,134
"Here's the drug money back."
1790
01:08:28,146 --> 01:08:29,477
Boom, you're arrested,
1791
01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:31,687
so then it turned into James Hoffman,
1792
01:08:31,691 --> 01:08:33,273
the CI, convincing him,
1793
01:08:33,276 --> 01:08:35,768
“Hey, 1 know this crooked banker.“
1794
01:08:35,778 --> 01:08:36,893
- Hey, John.
1795
01:08:36,904 --> 01:08:38,235
- Hi, Jim.
1796
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:39,195
- Great to see you.
1797
01:08:39,198 --> 01:08:40,029
- [John] You too.
1798
01:08:40,033 --> 01:08:40,864
- Have you been here in this area before?
1799
01:08:40,867 --> 01:08:42,824
- [John] I've been in San Jose,
1800
01:08:42,827 --> 01:08:44,613
and, of course, San Francisco--
1801
01:08:44,621 --> 01:08:46,862
- The DeLorean case was
just one of other cases
1802
01:08:46,873 --> 01:08:48,034
that I was involved in
1803
01:08:48,041 --> 01:08:50,829
from the standpoint of
being an undercover operator
1804
01:08:50,835 --> 01:08:51,996
working at a bank,
1805
01:08:52,003 --> 01:08:54,995
so the bank provided the
perfect undercover front.
1806
01:08:55,006 --> 01:08:57,873
We finally, shall we say,
1807
01:08:57,884 --> 01:08:59,374
got together after all this time.
1808
01:08:59,385 --> 01:09:01,752
- Yeah, after so many
conversations, right?
1809
01:09:01,763 --> 01:09:03,379
- Can 1 get you a cup of coffee'?
1810
01:09:03,389 --> 01:09:04,675
- [Tamir] At this point of the story,
1811
01:09:04,682 --> 01:09:07,299
John's not gonna put any
actual money into the game.
1812
01:09:07,310 --> 01:09:09,768
He can potentially put up collateral.
1813
01:09:09,771 --> 01:09:13,139
Ben Tisa is the one that's
supposed to now set up
1814
01:09:13,149 --> 01:09:15,857
an alternative situation for John.
1815
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:16,850
- Let me just background
1816
01:09:16,861 --> 01:09:17,976
what 1 intend now,
1817
01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:19,648
the background on the
individual I had in mind,
1818
01:09:19,656 --> 01:09:21,943
and how I think it may help you,
1819
01:09:21,949 --> 01:09:25,067
and this other transaction.
1820
01:09:25,078 --> 01:09:27,570
We had a particular suspect.
1821
01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:29,196
His name was Hetrick,
1822
01:09:29,207 --> 01:09:32,700
who was a pilot who flew
cocaine in from Colombia.
1823
01:09:32,710 --> 01:09:35,042
This particular individual
has been very successful
1824
01:09:35,046 --> 01:09:36,628
in his business, okay?
1825
01:09:36,631 --> 01:09:37,792
So the idea came in.
1826
01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:40,131
Well, maybe the dope dealer would invest
1827
01:09:40,134 --> 01:09:42,671
in John DeLorean's company,
1828
01:09:42,679 --> 01:09:44,841
John DeLorean being told that
the money was going to come
1829
01:09:44,847 --> 01:09:46,133
from sale of cocaine.
1830
01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:48,256
And just so the cards are on the table,
1831
01:09:48,267 --> 01:09:50,178
and you know exactly what's going on,
1832
01:09:50,186 --> 01:09:55,147
he's very successful bringing
in cocaine and putting it out.
1833
01:09:55,316 --> 01:09:56,477
Would it be possible
1834
01:09:57,944 --> 01:09:59,605
to allow this gentleman to have,
1835
01:09:59,612 --> 01:10:02,775
say, some stock options?
1836
01:10:02,782 --> 01:10:03,613
Here's what I have in mind.
1837
01:10:03,616 --> 01:10:04,447
- Oh, sure.
1838
01:10:04,450 --> 01:10:05,940
I don't think we can do
that in our public company,
1839
01:10:05,952 --> 01:10:07,693
but I see no reason why I couldn't do it
1840
01:10:07,704 --> 01:10:09,160
from my private company.
1841
01:10:09,163 --> 01:10:10,324
- Great, that's great.
1842
01:10:10,331 --> 01:10:11,617
That works.
1843
01:10:11,624 --> 01:10:13,240
- In John's mind,
1844
01:10:13,251 --> 01:10:16,118
once again the genius
at bending the rules,
1845
01:10:16,129 --> 01:10:17,619
finding the little loophole,
1846
01:10:17,630 --> 01:10:19,291
"Hey, I'll take this money
1847
01:10:19,298 --> 01:10:22,461
"even if it comes from drug folks,"
1848
01:10:22,468 --> 01:10:24,379
but it's coming through a legitimate bank.
1849
01:10:24,387 --> 01:10:25,548
- [Ben] Hello, John Delorean.
1850
01:10:25,555 --> 01:10:26,386
This is Morgan Hetrick.
1851
01:10:26,389 --> 01:10:27,754
- [John] Hi, Morgan, how you doing?
1852
01:10:27,765 --> 01:10:28,596
Nice to meet you.
1853
01:10:28,599 --> 01:10:29,430
- [Ben] How are you?
1854
01:10:29,434 --> 01:10:30,515
- Enter Morgan Hetrick.
1855
01:10:30,518 --> 01:10:33,101
He was somebody that
was flying in hundreds
1856
01:10:33,104 --> 01:10:35,971
and hundreds of pounds of
cocaine from South America,
1857
01:10:35,982 --> 01:10:38,440
so the government felt that at that point
1858
01:10:38,443 --> 01:10:40,275
that was the best opportunity
1859
01:10:40,278 --> 01:10:43,942
to bring both John and Hetrick down
1860
01:10:43,948 --> 01:10:46,189
is to merge the cases.
1861
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,238
The government told Hetrick that John
1862
01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:51,156
had put in $2 million
1863
01:10:51,164 --> 01:10:52,029
and that he wanted to do
1864
01:10:52,039 --> 01:10:53,825
this drug deal with Hetrick.
1865
01:10:53,833 --> 01:10:55,244
- [Ben] 'Cause he's already
given me, I've mentioned.
1866
01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:56,366
I've told him.
1867
01:10:56,377 --> 01:10:57,913
1 have the 1.8, and Tm sitting on it,
1868
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,378
and it's cash in hand.
1869
01:11:00,381 --> 01:11:01,337
1 have it,
1870
01:11:01,340 --> 01:11:02,796
so there's no problem there.
1871
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,212
- And he was given an opportunity
1872
01:11:05,219 --> 01:11:08,462
to stay in the deal
without putting money in,
1873
01:11:08,473 --> 01:11:11,090
and he took it.
1874
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,636
- [Ben] You can't go wrong
1875
01:11:12,643 --> 01:11:14,850
with something you make a lot of money at.
1876
01:11:14,854 --> 01:11:16,310
- Yeah, you can.
1877
01:11:16,314 --> 01:11:19,227
- [Ben] Well, a little bit of common sense
1878
01:11:19,233 --> 01:11:21,474
and you don't get too greedy.
1879
01:11:21,486 --> 01:11:23,102
- There's a risk, reward ratio,
1880
01:11:23,112 --> 01:11:25,069
and that's what you're playing.
1881
01:11:25,072 --> 01:11:26,858
- That's what life is,
1882
01:11:28,034 --> 01:11:29,149
(tape whirring)
1883
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,618
and 1 think it's a
great opportunity for me
1884
01:11:31,621 --> 01:11:32,656
from that standpoint.
1885
01:11:32,663 --> 01:11:34,324
- [Tamir] So in terms of the drug case,
1886
01:11:34,332 --> 01:11:36,824
you've got hours of phone conversations,
1887
01:11:36,834 --> 01:11:39,826
hours of videotape showing John
1888
01:11:39,837 --> 01:11:43,580
with these drug dealers
and crooked bankers.
1889
01:11:43,591 --> 01:11:44,581
- Is the feed secure?
1890
01:11:46,219 --> 01:11:47,584
- You sure he's not gonna
be able to hear anything
1891
01:11:47,595 --> 01:11:48,426
through this wall?
1892
01:11:48,429 --> 01:11:51,387
- [Tamir] John still hasn't
given the government anything,
1893
01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:53,677
so they have to introduce
this new character,
1894
01:11:53,684 --> 01:11:56,301
this sort of mob drug dealer guy.
1895
01:11:56,312 --> 01:11:57,143
- Show time.
1896
01:11:57,146 --> 01:11:59,854
- [Tamir] He's really gonna
crank the pressure up on John.
1897
01:12:03,444 --> 01:12:04,525
- Thanks again for coming here.
1898
01:12:04,529 --> 01:12:06,395
- Oh, it's my pleasure.
1899
01:12:08,324 --> 01:12:09,530
- You got some food coming, huh?
1900
01:12:09,534 --> 01:12:10,444
- It's coming, Jim.
1901
01:12:10,451 --> 01:12:11,282
It's coming.
1902
01:12:11,285 --> 01:12:12,116
_ Qkay.
1903
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:15,157
- When I meet him at the hotel room,
1904
01:12:15,164 --> 01:12:16,199
I would be the one that would
1905
01:12:16,207 --> 01:12:18,574
be handling the drugs.
1906
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:22,161
All Jim had to do was put it together,
1907
01:12:22,171 --> 01:12:25,709
get a finder's fee, whatever,
1908
01:12:25,716 --> 01:12:26,797
and me and my network
1909
01:12:26,801 --> 01:12:31,762
would be going out to
quadruple our investment.
1910
01:12:32,849 --> 01:12:34,715
We're ready to consummate
the end of the deal
1911
01:12:34,725 --> 01:12:37,387
where the turnover is for your purposes
1912
01:12:38,771 --> 01:12:39,806
within 48 hours.
1913
01:12:39,814 --> 01:12:40,645
- Great.
1914
01:12:40,648 --> 01:12:43,606
- I'm asking for, what are you putting up?
1915
01:12:43,609 --> 01:12:45,191
There's no more money from you.
1916
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:48,061
There's no free lunch either.
1917
01:12:48,072 --> 01:12:49,654
You know, there's no free lunches.
1918
01:12:50,658 --> 01:12:54,276
Basically, I want to
know what's in it for me.
1919
01:12:55,913 --> 01:12:57,028
- [Tamir] At this point of the story,
1920
01:12:57,039 --> 01:12:58,746
each participant in this deal
1921
01:12:58,749 --> 01:13:01,081
is trying to outsmart and outmaneuver
1922
01:13:01,085 --> 01:13:02,792
the other person for their own gain.
1923
01:13:02,795 --> 01:13:05,753
(upbeat instrumental music)
1924
01:13:05,756 --> 01:13:08,293
John wants to get money
to save his company.
1925
01:13:08,301 --> 01:13:09,462
You've got Jim Hoffman,
1926
01:13:09,468 --> 01:13:10,958
who's leeching off of the government.
1927
01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:14,554
He begins to enjoy this
lifestyle of working
1928
01:13:14,557 --> 01:13:15,422
with the feds,
1929
01:13:16,642 --> 01:13:18,053
and then the feds,
1930
01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:20,427
they're trying to have that big, big case
1931
01:13:20,438 --> 01:13:23,100
for Reagan to tout his war on drugs,
1932
01:13:23,107 --> 01:13:25,690
so everyone is hungry for that one thing
1933
01:13:25,693 --> 01:13:27,024
that they want out of this.
1934
01:13:28,571 --> 01:13:31,233
- [Howard] When you
analyze a case like this,
1935
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,575
you realize, "Wait, the
informant kind of created this
1936
01:13:35,578 --> 01:13:37,410
"with the government working with him,
1937
01:13:37,413 --> 01:13:38,699
"and it didn't work,"
1938
01:13:38,706 --> 01:13:42,324
so they went to a savings
and loan, legitimate bank,
1939
01:13:42,335 --> 01:13:44,417
got them to let them use the premises,
1940
01:13:44,420 --> 01:13:46,832
you know, like the set in a movie.
1941
01:13:46,839 --> 01:13:50,457
Phase three, they put John
together with Morgan Hetrick,
1942
01:13:50,468 --> 01:13:51,958
a legitimate, by legitimate,
1943
01:13:51,969 --> 01:13:54,085
I mean a real smuggler.
1944
01:13:54,096 --> 01:13:57,134
Then they bring in the DEA,
1945
01:13:58,017 --> 01:14:01,009
and John Valestra becomes
kind of a mafioso,
1946
01:14:01,979 --> 01:14:03,720
and what they finally came up with
1947
01:14:03,731 --> 01:14:06,098
so John would get his 10, 15, $20 million
1948
01:14:07,109 --> 01:14:09,692
is they got him to put
up stock certificates.
1949
01:14:10,863 --> 01:14:12,445
- The stock certificates should be
1950
01:14:12,448 --> 01:14:15,236
in Eureka Federal Savings and Loan
1951
01:14:16,494 --> 01:14:17,700
in a trust account,
1952
01:14:17,703 --> 01:14:19,159
and then eventually, I would see us
1953
01:14:19,163 --> 01:14:20,870
being 50, 50 partners.
1954
01:14:20,873 --> 01:14:23,410
- John with his lawyers, corporate lawyer,
1955
01:14:23,417 --> 01:14:27,502
gives them worthless DeLorean stock
1956
01:14:27,505 --> 01:14:30,793
in a defunct company that had no assets,
1957
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:31,961
worthless paper,
1958
01:14:33,886 --> 01:14:37,845
and the con was reversed in John's mind,
1959
01:14:37,848 --> 01:14:40,340
so he's putting up zero.
1960
01:14:40,351 --> 01:14:42,183
Mr. Hetrick, the smuggler,
1961
01:14:42,186 --> 01:14:43,768
goes and gets the cocaine,
1962
01:14:43,771 --> 01:14:46,183
and then they call DeLorean.
1963
01:14:46,190 --> 01:14:47,897
- You're still on the East Coast?
1964
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:48,731
- [John] I'm on the East Coast,
1965
01:14:48,734 --> 01:14:50,145
and 1 can do anything you want.
1966
01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:55,985
- It might be conducive
to you being close by
1967
01:14:56,325 --> 01:14:58,362
when this thing goes down so that--
1968
01:14:58,369 --> 01:14:59,700
- And they say to him,
1969
01:14:59,704 --> 01:15:01,411
"Come to Los Angeles.
1970
01:15:01,414 --> 01:15:03,121
"We have $10 million for you.
1971
01:15:03,124 --> 01:15:04,535
"Come get your money."
1972
01:15:04,542 --> 01:15:08,501
- Maybe we'll pop a bottle
of champagne some place.
1973
01:15:09,463 --> 01:15:10,544
- [John] That would be wonderful.
1974
01:15:10,548 --> 01:15:12,164
- And sit back and relax.
1975
01:15:12,174 --> 01:15:15,383
(plane engine running)
1976
01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:18,924
- [Howard] And DeLorean,
who can only think about,
1977
01:15:18,931 --> 01:15:20,763
"1 got to get the money to the company,“
1978
01:15:20,766 --> 01:15:21,597
comes to LA,
1979
01:15:22,727 --> 01:15:24,263
(static crackling)
1980
01:15:24,270 --> 01:15:26,807
and the government picked him up,
1981
01:15:26,814 --> 01:15:28,646
took him to a hotel room,
1982
01:15:28,649 --> 01:15:31,107
opened a bottle of champagne,
1983
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:34,228
toasted to their success.
1984
01:15:34,238 --> 01:15:36,229
- Here's to a lot of
success for everybody.
1985
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,822
- [Howard] And one of the agents said,
1986
01:15:37,825 --> 01:15:41,318
"Now, John, here's the
fruits of our efforts."
1987
01:15:41,328 --> 01:15:44,161
- So, John, what we're talking about,
1988
01:15:44,165 --> 01:15:45,155
what we're talking about,
1989
01:15:45,166 --> 01:15:46,702
it's gonna be like a magic act, John.
1990
01:15:49,670 --> 01:15:51,035
- [Howard] And went to the closet
1991
01:15:51,047 --> 01:15:53,379
and brought out the suitcase of cocaine
1992
01:15:53,382 --> 01:15:54,668
and opened it up.
1993
01:15:54,675 --> 01:15:57,463
- Between this and the other half,
1994
01:15:59,555 --> 01:16:01,137
it's gonna generate about four and a half,
1995
01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:02,801
not less than four and a half mil.
1996
01:16:05,936 --> 01:16:09,019
(plastic crackling)
1997
01:16:09,023 --> 01:16:11,060
- This is better than in gold.
1998
01:16:11,067 --> 01:16:13,604
Gold weighs more than
that, for God's sakes.
1999
01:16:13,611 --> 01:16:15,318
(laughing)
2000
01:16:15,321 --> 01:16:16,527
- [Howard] That's when DeLorean said,
2001
01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:17,361
"This is like gold.
2002
01:16:17,364 --> 01:16:18,445
"This is better than gold."
2003
01:16:18,449 --> 01:16:19,530
- This is better than gold.
2004
01:16:19,533 --> 01:16:20,489
(laughing)
2005
01:16:20,493 --> 01:16:23,110
Gold weighs more than
that, for God's sakes.
2006
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,861
- Classic line on that tape.
2007
01:16:26,332 --> 01:16:27,117
- Hi, John.
2008
01:16:28,042 --> 01:16:29,953
Jerry West, I'm with the FBI.
2009
01:16:31,212 --> 01:16:33,328
- [Howard] And then he was arrested,
2010
01:16:33,339 --> 01:16:36,877
so he wasn't gonna take the drugs.
2011
01:16:36,884 --> 01:16:38,795
He didn't get the $10 million.
2012
01:16:38,803 --> 01:16:39,634
- [Jerry] Will you stand up, sir?
2013
01:16:39,637 --> 01:16:41,173
- [Howard] And he never was
supposed to take the drugs.
2014
01:16:41,180 --> 01:16:42,966
He was only supposed to get the money.
2015
01:16:42,973 --> 01:16:43,963
- 1 don't understand it.
2016
01:16:43,974 --> 01:16:44,930
- Please turn around.
2017
01:16:44,934 --> 01:16:46,390
- [Howard] So why would
they bring the drugs out
2018
01:16:46,393 --> 01:16:49,010
and show them to him?
2019
01:16:49,021 --> 01:16:50,477
And the answer is pretty simple.
2020
01:16:50,481 --> 01:16:52,893
Well, if you're dealing with 12 laypeople
2021
01:16:52,900 --> 01:16:54,561
in the jury box,
2022
01:16:54,568 --> 01:16:55,399
you're gonna make them think
2023
01:16:55,402 --> 01:16:57,018
this was all part of the deal.
2024
01:17:03,953 --> 01:17:07,071
- John DeLorean says,
"It's all in God's hands."
2025
01:17:07,081 --> 01:17:08,913
That was his reaction today when six men
2026
01:17:08,916 --> 01:17:11,453
and six women began deliberating his case.
2027
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:13,076
- [Man] The jurors, who appeared relaxed
2028
01:17:13,087 --> 01:17:14,623
when they arrived for court today,
2029
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:17,122
began their deliberations
shortly before 10:00 A.M.
2030
01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:18,544
Los Angeles time.
2031
01:17:18,551 --> 01:17:21,339
Outside court, John DeLorean's
attorney, Howard Weitzman,
2032
01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:23,256
expressed the mood on the defense side.
2033
01:17:23,264 --> 01:17:25,551
- This is a very difficult time
2034
01:17:25,558 --> 01:17:26,798
when a case goes to the jury
2035
01:17:26,809 --> 01:17:29,801
'cause you never really
know what they're thinking
2036
01:17:29,812 --> 01:17:31,394
or what they're interested in.
2037
01:17:31,397 --> 01:17:33,729
These are very hard cases,
2038
01:17:33,732 --> 01:17:36,645
and it requires a unanimous verdict.
2039
01:17:36,652 --> 01:17:37,687
If he got convicted,
2040
01:17:37,695 --> 01:17:39,026
he would have received
2041
01:17:39,029 --> 01:17:41,987
a pretty stiff prison sentence for sure,
2042
01:17:41,991 --> 01:17:45,950
and the government was very
confident in their case.
2043
01:17:45,953 --> 01:17:47,785
- [Man] Throughout the
case, the DeLorean defense
2044
01:17:47,788 --> 01:17:49,745
has hammered away at the tactics used
2045
01:17:49,748 --> 01:17:52,115
by federal agents in their
undercover investigation
2046
01:17:52,126 --> 01:17:53,491
of John DeLorean.
2047
01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:54,867
Weitzman asked for acquittal,
2048
01:17:54,879 --> 01:17:58,213
saying, "The government is
in a sense on trial here."
2049
01:17:58,215 --> 01:18:03,301
- We did not believe there
was an entrapment defense
2050
01:18:03,304 --> 01:18:04,419
in this case.
2051
01:18:04,430 --> 01:18:06,091
That was a throwaway defense.
2052
01:18:07,141 --> 01:18:08,347
- [Woman] After the long trial,
2053
01:18:08,350 --> 01:18:10,307
DeLorean's lawyer said he'll be stunned
2054
01:18:10,311 --> 01:18:12,222
whichever way the jury votes.
2055
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:14,311
John DeLorean put it more simply.
2056
01:18:14,315 --> 01:18:16,397
- [Man] John, how do you feel?
2057
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,936
- It's in the hands of the Lord.
2058
01:18:19,403 --> 01:18:21,110
(mumbling)
2059
01:18:21,113 --> 01:18:24,731
(gentle instrumental music)
2060
01:18:37,379 --> 01:18:38,790
- In the matter of the United States
2061
01:18:38,797 --> 01:18:40,754
versus John Z. DeLorean,
2062
01:18:40,758 --> 01:18:42,374
the jury finds the defendant
2063
01:18:44,595 --> 01:18:46,177
not guilty on all eight counts.
2064
01:18:46,180 --> 01:18:48,387
(mumbling)
2065
01:18:49,725 --> 01:18:52,308
- Praise the Lord.
2066
01:18:55,522 --> 01:18:56,853
Howard.
2067
01:18:56,857 --> 01:18:58,347
Well done, Howard, well done.
2068
01:18:58,359 --> 01:18:59,599
Thank you, thank you.
2069
01:18:59,610 --> 01:19:01,817
(mumbling)
2070
01:19:05,157 --> 01:19:07,194
(crying)
2071
01:19:22,216 --> 01:19:24,924
(birds chirping)
2072
01:19:31,267 --> 01:19:33,099
(dogs barking)
2073
01:19:33,102 --> 01:19:34,684
- Come on, boys.
2074
01:19:34,687 --> 01:19:35,973
Back up, back up.
2075
01:19:35,980 --> 01:19:37,937
We got a guest.
2076
01:19:37,940 --> 01:19:38,725
Yeah.
2077
01:19:41,318 --> 01:19:42,183
What's up, buddy?
2078
01:19:42,194 --> 01:19:43,355
Ah, fucker.
2079
01:19:43,362 --> 01:19:45,194
Water everywhere.
2080
01:19:45,197 --> 01:19:46,028
Sit.
2081
01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:46,941
You guys gonna chill?
2082
01:19:46,949 --> 01:19:47,734
Sit.
2083
01:19:48,867 --> 01:19:52,451
Yeah, this is where I live.
2084
01:19:52,454 --> 01:19:54,491
(laughing)
2085
01:19:54,498 --> 01:19:56,580
It's a shitty little apartment.
2086
01:19:57,543 --> 01:19:59,500
The paint's fucking peeling,
2087
01:19:59,503 --> 01:20:01,289
and if you find my housekeeper,
2088
01:20:01,297 --> 01:20:02,128
tell her she's fired
2089
01:20:02,131 --> 01:20:03,212
'cause she doesn't do a good job
2090
01:20:03,215 --> 01:20:04,455
of cleaning the fucking place,
2091
01:20:04,466 --> 01:20:08,505
but so it's kind of like,
2092
01:20:08,512 --> 01:20:09,877
you guys, 1 don't know if you've seen
2093
01:20:09,888 --> 01:20:11,595
the apartment or any of that stuff,
2094
01:20:11,598 --> 01:20:14,056
but so when people know who I am
2095
01:20:14,059 --> 01:20:15,174
and who my family is,
2096
01:20:15,185 --> 01:20:16,095
and then they come over,
2097
01:20:16,103 --> 01:20:18,219
they're like, "What the fuck?"
2098
01:20:20,566 --> 01:20:24,184
Even today, I'll see the
car going down the street,
2099
01:20:24,194 --> 01:20:25,025
and I'm just like,
2100
01:20:25,029 --> 01:20:26,736
"It's just fucking weird, man."
2101
01:20:27,948 --> 01:20:30,110
For me, there's a lot behind
2102
01:20:30,117 --> 01:20:31,107
the meaning of that car,
2103
01:20:31,118 --> 01:20:33,280
not just my family name on it,
2104
01:20:33,287 --> 01:20:35,654
but what that fucking
car did to our family.
2105
01:20:36,915 --> 01:20:38,997
- [Woman] Are you surprised
that a feature film
2106
01:20:39,001 --> 01:20:41,743
hasn't been made about
your dad and his life?
2107
01:20:41,754 --> 01:20:43,495
- Yeah, yeah.
2108
01:20:43,505 --> 01:20:45,166
I mean, it's got all the good shit in it.
2109
01:20:45,174 --> 01:20:46,130
It's got cocaine.
2110
01:20:46,133 --> 01:20:48,170
It's got fucking hot chicks.
2111
01:20:48,177 --> 01:20:49,338
It's got sports cars.
2112
01:20:49,345 --> 01:20:52,758
It's got fucking war torn,
2113
01:20:52,765 --> 01:20:54,597
bombed out buildings overseas.
2114
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,058
It's got fucking Margaret
Thatcher, Ronald Reagan,
2115
01:20:57,061 --> 01:20:58,096
the war on drugs.
2116
01:20:58,103 --> 01:21:00,219
You got FBI agents.
2117
01:21:00,230 --> 01:21:04,895
You got fucking hardcore
drug dealers, but,
2118
01:21:08,030 --> 01:21:10,146
my fear with Hollywood
2119
01:21:11,367 --> 01:21:13,233
is they're gonna end it
2120
01:21:13,243 --> 01:21:17,487
with him coming out of the
courthouse with Cristina.
2121
01:21:17,498 --> 01:21:18,613
"Whoo hoo, fucking acquittal.
2122
01:21:18,624 --> 01:21:19,489
"Yeah, yeah, yeah."
2123
01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:22,037
Fucking credits, you know?
2124
01:21:22,044 --> 01:21:25,127
While that coming out of the courthouse,
2125
01:21:25,130 --> 01:21:27,417
ticker tape parade shit is real,
2126
01:21:29,176 --> 01:21:30,632
look at what it cost him.
2127
01:21:30,636 --> 01:21:31,751
(gentle instrumental music)
2128
01:21:31,762 --> 01:21:33,673
- The sting operation fell through.
2129
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:34,636
You were acquitted.
2130
01:21:35,557 --> 01:21:37,298
Your wife Cristina stood by you
2131
01:21:37,309 --> 01:21:39,141
throughout the entire trial,
2132
01:21:39,144 --> 01:21:43,308
and then not but several
weeks later, left you.
2133
01:21:43,315 --> 01:21:44,350
- Several days later.
2134
01:21:45,359 --> 01:21:46,190
- [Woman] Ah.
2135
01:21:46,193 --> 01:21:46,978
- You claim to have been shocked
2136
01:21:46,985 --> 01:21:48,942
that your wife Cristina
2137
01:21:48,946 --> 01:21:50,812
announced her intentions to divorce you
2138
01:21:50,823 --> 01:21:52,609
shortly after the trial.
2139
01:21:52,616 --> 01:21:53,981
She appeared on this program,
2140
01:21:53,992 --> 01:21:58,987
spoke of you in most wifely of terms.
2141
01:21:58,997 --> 01:22:00,078
Here's what she said.
2142
01:22:00,082 --> 01:22:01,914
- Can't make a judgment right now.
2143
01:22:01,917 --> 01:22:02,782
It's not fair.
2144
01:22:02,793 --> 01:22:04,375
It's not fair for John,
2145
01:22:04,378 --> 01:22:05,584
and it's not fair for you either
2146
01:22:05,587 --> 01:22:07,828
because if you were in
a situation like this
2147
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,251
or any one of your loved ones,
2148
01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:11,750
you will find yourself defending them
2149
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,717
as ardently as I'm doing with John.
2150
01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:16,762
- That must make you
feel at the very least
2151
01:22:16,765 --> 01:22:17,926
mixed to see that.
2152
01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:19,094
It makes you cry, does it?
2153
01:22:19,101 --> 01:22:22,093
- Yeah, it's pretty painful.
2154
01:22:22,104 --> 01:22:24,846
- At the time, if 1 was my mom,
2155
01:22:24,857 --> 01:22:27,474
the carpet just got pulled
out from underneath me.
2156
01:22:27,484 --> 01:22:28,770
She's 31 years old, man.
2157
01:22:28,777 --> 01:22:30,188
She's still got another eight, nine,
2158
01:22:30,195 --> 01:22:33,938
10, 12 years of being top dog.
2159
01:22:33,949 --> 01:22:35,314
And that whole fucking career
2160
01:22:35,325 --> 01:22:37,236
pulled out from underneath you.
2161
01:22:37,244 --> 01:22:39,110
- Your whole career has fallen apart.
2162
01:22:39,121 --> 01:22:41,408
- I was at the top of
my modeling profession.
2163
01:22:41,415 --> 01:22:43,702
I've been doing it for 20 years.
2164
01:22:43,709 --> 01:22:44,619
The last 15 years,
2165
01:22:44,626 --> 01:22:45,912
I've been at the very top of it,
2166
01:22:45,919 --> 01:22:47,785
commanding top money,
2167
01:22:47,796 --> 01:22:49,286
and this is July,
2168
01:22:49,298 --> 01:22:51,665
and since January I've had one booking,
2169
01:22:51,675 --> 01:22:54,042
and I've made $105,
2170
01:22:54,052 --> 01:22:55,213
and no one will have anything
2171
01:22:55,220 --> 01:22:56,927
to do with me or my name,
2172
01:22:56,930 --> 01:22:57,840
not at all.
2173
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:03,434
- 1 try not to ask my mom about my dad,
2174
01:23:03,437 --> 01:23:07,271
not because 1 think that she
doesn't have any good memories.
2175
01:23:07,274 --> 01:23:10,812
More because again 1 don't want
2176
01:23:10,819 --> 01:23:15,734
to draw up any painful ones.
2177
01:23:15,741 --> 01:23:17,482
It was terrible and tragic
2178
01:23:17,493 --> 01:23:18,858
what she had to go through,
2179
01:23:18,869 --> 01:23:22,863
so she had to do something
different with her life.
2180
01:23:22,873 --> 01:23:24,784
She had to leave all that behind.
2181
01:23:24,791 --> 01:23:26,156
Shortly after all of that,
2182
01:23:26,168 --> 01:23:27,784
she had her show, AM LA.
2183
01:23:27,794 --> 01:23:30,286
She defined who she was.
2184
01:23:30,297 --> 01:23:31,378
She rebuilt her life,
2185
01:23:31,381 --> 01:23:33,463
and she rebuilt it in a fantastic way.
2186
01:23:34,343 --> 01:23:35,629
- And credit to her, 1 get it.
2187
01:23:35,636 --> 01:23:36,546
1 understand it,
2188
01:23:36,553 --> 01:23:39,011
that you're trying to keep a roof
2189
01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:43,975
and keep a normal, stable
household for your kids.
2190
01:23:46,271 --> 01:23:47,102
Guess what?
2191
01:23:47,105 --> 01:23:48,015
It's fucking gone.
2192
01:23:50,108 --> 01:23:53,396
Stability and sanity
left the fucking house
2193
01:23:53,403 --> 01:23:55,610
two years ago when he got arrested.
2194
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,942
- I had to do an art project for school,
2195
01:24:00,953 --> 01:24:03,035
and we had to do appropriation,
2196
01:24:03,038 --> 01:24:06,451
so 1 appropriated this painting.
2197
01:24:06,458 --> 01:24:11,077
On this side, there's photographs
of everything perfect,
2198
01:24:11,088 --> 01:24:13,420
and as it goes on,
2199
01:24:13,423 --> 01:24:17,382
I started to put in the articles
2200
01:24:17,386 --> 01:24:19,423
from this perfect life
2201
01:24:19,429 --> 01:24:21,466
to this destroyed life,
2202
01:24:21,473 --> 01:24:22,554
and on the bumper, it says,
2203
01:24:22,558 --> 01:24:25,220
"Destroy my childhood," for DMC.
2204
01:24:30,607 --> 01:24:32,063
- [Man] All right, man, you good?
2205
01:24:32,067 --> 01:24:33,228
- [Man] Yes--
2206
01:24:33,235 --> 01:24:34,521
- [Man] We get any last looks on Alec?
2207
01:24:34,528 --> 01:24:35,359
- [Man] 1 got some--
2208
01:24:35,362 --> 01:24:36,193
- [Man] We're good.
2209
01:24:36,196 --> 01:24:37,027
We're ready to go.
2210
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:37,861
- [Man] That's fine.
2211
01:24:37,864 --> 01:24:38,695
Let's go.
2212
01:24:38,699 --> 01:24:39,530
Let's shoot it.
2213
01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:43,868
- I'd love to figure out,
what's the actual turning point?
2214
01:24:43,870 --> 01:24:45,611
When does DeLorean get to a point
2215
01:24:45,622 --> 01:24:47,112
where he could have turned back
2216
01:24:48,333 --> 01:24:50,870
and maybe avoided everything?
2217
01:24:50,877 --> 01:24:54,666
And whether he went on to
complete the car project or not,
2218
01:24:54,673 --> 01:24:57,210
he would have lived to
fight another battle
2219
01:24:57,217 --> 01:25:00,881
or try another iteration of all that
2220
01:25:00,887 --> 01:25:01,877
and probably succeeded
2221
01:25:01,888 --> 01:25:03,549
'cause he's a very clever guy.
2222
01:25:03,557 --> 01:25:07,642
What's that moment where you
sit there and go too late?
2223
01:25:07,644 --> 01:25:09,100
Is it the cocaine deal itself?
2224
01:25:09,104 --> 01:25:11,311
Is it before that?
2225
01:25:11,315 --> 01:25:12,805
Is it a series of things?
2226
01:25:12,816 --> 01:25:16,059
Is it a period of time where
he's doing a few things?
2227
01:25:16,069 --> 01:25:19,812
When does John put in all
the chips on the table,
2228
01:25:19,823 --> 01:25:21,530
and he loses?
2229
01:25:21,533 --> 01:25:25,151
(gentle instrumental music)
2230
01:25:28,165 --> 01:25:31,157
- I saw the drug trial as a sideshow.
2231
01:25:31,168 --> 01:25:35,708
To me, much more
substantial was how DeLorean
2232
01:25:35,714 --> 01:25:37,455
was handling the money
2233
01:25:37,466 --> 01:25:38,672
that he had gotten to build
2234
01:25:38,675 --> 01:25:40,586
the car in Northern Ireland.
2235
01:25:42,721 --> 01:25:45,008
- Every piece of paper tells a story
2236
01:25:45,015 --> 01:25:46,096
of what people were doing
2237
01:25:46,099 --> 01:25:47,260
and how they were doing it.
2238
01:25:47,267 --> 01:25:48,757
Well, this transaction happened
2239
01:25:48,769 --> 01:25:50,259
before this transaction,
2240
01:25:50,270 --> 01:25:52,102
and that led to this transaction.
2241
01:25:52,105 --> 01:25:54,722
I was brought in to analyze the affairs
2242
01:25:54,733 --> 01:25:55,643
of DeLorean Motor Company
2243
01:25:55,651 --> 01:25:57,813
and go deep into its affairs
2244
01:25:57,819 --> 01:26:00,481
its activities and its transactions.
2245
01:26:00,489 --> 01:26:01,945
We didn't really understand that at first,
2246
01:26:01,948 --> 01:26:04,030
but it turned out to
be the critical moment
2247
01:26:04,034 --> 01:26:07,117
in untangling the
affairs of John DeLorean,
2248
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:08,576
and as it became clear,
2249
01:26:08,580 --> 01:26:11,948
you start to see yet again
another side of John.
2250
01:26:11,958 --> 01:26:13,164
(camera shutter clicking)
2251
01:26:13,168 --> 01:26:14,704
When the company was developing
2252
01:26:14,711 --> 01:26:17,203
in those heady days of
excitement and energy
2253
01:26:17,214 --> 01:26:18,545
around the company, around John,
2254
01:26:18,548 --> 01:26:20,664
investors all wanted to get a piece of it.
2255
01:26:20,676 --> 01:26:21,711
(audience applauding)
2256
01:26:21,718 --> 01:26:23,300
- [Tamir] In trying to
raise all the capital,
2257
01:26:23,303 --> 01:26:25,419
John was really selling himself.
2258
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:27,592
He was selling his image.
2259
01:26:27,599 --> 01:26:29,055
The slogan, "Live the Dream,"
2260
01:26:29,059 --> 01:26:31,391
that's what people were
supposedly buying into
2261
01:26:31,395 --> 01:26:33,011
when they invested in his company.
2262
01:26:33,021 --> 01:26:34,853
- And John, sensing that interest
2263
01:26:34,856 --> 01:26:36,893
and wanting to raise
money if it was available,
2264
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:39,437
was able to raise $17 and a half million
2265
01:26:39,444 --> 01:26:42,232
for the development of the vehicle,
2266
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:43,320
but as it turns out,
2267
01:26:43,323 --> 01:26:46,441
the British government had also
put up enough money by then
2268
01:26:46,451 --> 01:26:48,362
that their funds were actually being used
2269
01:26:48,370 --> 01:26:50,452
to pay for the development of the vehicle,
2270
01:26:50,455 --> 01:26:52,116
and therefore this money wasn't needed
2271
01:26:52,124 --> 01:26:53,865
so much at that point,
2272
01:26:53,875 --> 01:26:57,539
and John, seeing this pot
of money, couldn't resist.
2273
01:26:57,546 --> 01:26:59,628
- [Man] Federal investigators
and bankruptcy lawyers
2274
01:26:59,631 --> 01:27:03,090
say they have uncovered
another secret DeLorean deal,
2275
01:27:03,093 --> 01:27:06,381
this one arranged at a hotel
in Geneva, Switzerland,
2276
01:27:06,388 --> 01:27:08,220
long before the alleged drug deal.
2277
01:27:09,266 --> 01:27:12,884
- [Man] A deal had been
struck in Switzerland
2278
01:27:12,894 --> 01:27:14,009
with Colin Chapman,
2279
01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:15,977
the chairman of Lotus,
2280
01:27:15,981 --> 01:27:20,566
and the mysterious organization
called GPD Services.
2281
01:27:21,528 --> 01:27:24,065
- [Tamir] And what's
interesting becomes very clear
2282
01:27:24,072 --> 01:27:27,360
that Bill Collins was onto
something several years earlier
2283
01:27:27,367 --> 01:27:30,701
when he was analyzing the
DeLorean, Lotus agreement.
2284
01:27:30,704 --> 01:27:31,944
- When I looked at the numbers
2285
01:27:31,955 --> 01:27:32,945
that they put together,
2286
01:27:32,956 --> 01:27:34,162
1 said to John,
2287
01:27:34,166 --> 01:27:35,577
"What's the deal?"
2288
01:27:35,584 --> 01:27:37,200
GPD?
2289
01:27:37,210 --> 01:27:38,200
I've never even heard of it.
2290
01:27:38,211 --> 01:27:39,747
It just seems like you're paying twice
2291
01:27:39,755 --> 01:27:41,166
for the same thing, John.
2292
01:27:41,173 --> 01:27:43,005
Obviously looking back on it now,
2293
01:27:43,008 --> 01:27:44,919
there were things going
on behind the scene.
2294
01:27:44,926 --> 01:27:48,135
John and Chapman were trying to figure out
2295
01:27:48,138 --> 01:27:50,755
the game they were playing with GPD
2296
01:27:50,766 --> 01:27:55,681
and trying to get various
arrangements put together.
2297
01:27:56,188 --> 01:27:57,770
- In the scene we shot yesterday,
2298
01:27:57,773 --> 01:27:59,764
he hangs up with Collins,
2299
01:27:59,775 --> 01:28:02,733
and everybody who's good,
2300
01:28:02,736 --> 01:28:04,522
they've all got to go, you know?
2301
01:28:04,529 --> 01:28:06,861
Because their goodness
becomes useless to John.
2302
01:28:07,908 --> 01:28:10,115
They just don't do me any good.
2303
01:28:10,118 --> 01:28:13,076
- Apart from denying that
he had any of the GPD money,
2304
01:28:13,079 --> 01:28:16,117
John DeLorean is reluctant to discuss GPD.
2305
01:28:16,124 --> 01:28:18,616
- [Man] Can you give that an
answer now to those allegations
2306
01:28:18,627 --> 01:28:20,868
about the missing $17 million?
2307
01:28:20,879 --> 01:28:23,587
(birds chirping)
2308
01:28:25,133 --> 01:28:28,171
- So now we fast forward
into the investigation,
2309
01:28:28,178 --> 01:28:31,296
and we start peeling
back the layers of GPD.
2310
01:28:31,306 --> 01:28:36,267
- GPD is supposedly this middleman company
2311
01:28:36,436 --> 01:28:41,101
to deliver certain other
engineering services.
2312
01:28:41,107 --> 01:28:45,943
In truth, it had no other engineers.
2313
01:28:45,946 --> 01:28:48,153
It had no facilities
2314
01:28:48,156 --> 01:28:50,864
to deliver these engineering services.
2315
01:28:50,867 --> 01:28:54,030
GPD was a mailbox.
2316
01:28:54,037 --> 01:28:56,779
- [Man] GPD is a phony, a shell company,
2317
01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:59,623
nothing more than a post office
box in a neighborhood branch
2318
01:28:59,626 --> 01:29:01,208
of the Geneva Post Office,
2319
01:29:01,211 --> 01:29:02,918
Post Office Box 33.
2320
01:29:04,589 --> 01:29:06,830
- [Jay] It turns out John made a deal
2321
01:29:06,842 --> 01:29:09,254
with Colin Chapman at Lotus Cars
2322
01:29:09,261 --> 01:29:11,673
that he would send the
$17 and a half million
2323
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,138
from investors into GPD,
2324
01:29:14,140 --> 01:29:16,222
and then Colin took the money from there,
2325
01:29:16,226 --> 01:29:18,593
funneled it into European bank accounts,
2326
01:29:18,603 --> 01:29:20,185
split it with John.
2327
01:29:20,188 --> 01:29:21,849
John then maneuvered that money
2328
01:29:21,857 --> 01:29:24,599
back to his own accounts
in the United States,
2329
01:29:24,609 --> 01:29:26,691
therefore converting the investor money
2330
01:29:26,695 --> 01:29:27,901
into his own money.
2331
01:29:32,367 --> 01:29:35,325
- I think there's a real
fascinating allegory here.
2332
01:29:35,328 --> 01:29:37,945
You did sell your soul, John DeLorean.
2333
01:29:37,956 --> 01:29:41,074
You sold it for the greater
glory of John DeLorean
2334
01:29:41,084 --> 01:29:42,700
who was going to whip General Motors
2335
01:29:42,711 --> 01:29:44,076
and all these multibillion dollar,
2336
01:29:44,087 --> 01:29:46,670
multinational companies
with your own dream car,
2337
01:29:46,673 --> 01:29:48,289
and in that vision,
2338
01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:51,292
not only did you jeopardize
the well being of your family,
2339
01:29:51,303 --> 01:29:53,385
you've risked yourself for a jail term,
2340
01:29:53,388 --> 01:29:55,299
got off because the government blew it.
2341
01:29:55,307 --> 01:29:57,139
Now we have other indictments,
2342
01:29:57,142 --> 01:30:00,134
which indicate that it's possible
2343
01:30:00,145 --> 01:30:03,888
that your fatigue and your egomania
2344
01:30:03,899 --> 01:30:06,231
forced you to use money
for your own purpose
2345
01:30:06,234 --> 01:30:08,771
rather than the original
intent of the investors.
2346
01:30:08,778 --> 01:30:11,861
That's what seems to be
most apparent to anybody
2347
01:30:11,865 --> 01:30:13,151
who gives a cursory review
2348
01:30:13,158 --> 01:30:14,694
of the evidence in this case.
2349
01:30:14,701 --> 01:30:16,817
- Well, as I said early on,
2350
01:30:16,828 --> 01:30:19,365
I think that we will prove conclusively
2351
01:30:19,372 --> 01:30:21,739
that every single cent was legitimately
2352
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:24,082
and honestly come by,
2353
01:30:24,085 --> 01:30:27,077
and that all these
charges are totally false.
2354
01:30:27,088 --> 01:30:29,705
(gentle instrumental music)
2355
01:30:29,716 --> 01:30:33,175
- So as these questions
are being brought up
2356
01:30:33,178 --> 01:30:36,842
and John is preparing to have
to answer these questions,
2357
01:30:36,848 --> 01:30:39,306
he needed to show some sort of proof
2358
01:30:39,309 --> 01:30:41,892
that made the deal not look shady,
2359
01:30:41,895 --> 01:30:44,307
and that proof was actually a loan letter
2360
01:30:44,314 --> 01:30:45,804
from GPD Services
2361
01:30:45,815 --> 01:30:48,933
and a paper trail that GPD services
2362
01:30:48,944 --> 01:30:50,275
was a loan to him
2363
01:30:50,278 --> 01:30:51,814
and that he still had several years
2364
01:30:51,821 --> 01:30:54,313
before he had to pay back that loan.
2365
01:30:54,324 --> 01:30:56,315
He puts together these documents
2366
01:30:56,326 --> 01:30:59,739
that only he and one other
person would be privy to,
2367
01:30:59,746 --> 01:31:01,987
and that being Colin Chapman from Lotus.
2368
01:31:01,998 --> 01:31:03,614
Well, several years earlier,
2369
01:31:03,625 --> 01:31:06,663
Colin Chapman dropped
dead of a heart attack,
2370
01:31:06,670 --> 01:31:08,456
and the only other person
2371
01:31:08,463 --> 01:31:12,422
in this little transaction was John.
2372
01:31:12,425 --> 01:31:14,132
- So while I was busy studying the records
2373
01:31:14,135 --> 01:31:16,126
and looking at financial transactions,
2374
01:31:16,137 --> 01:31:19,380
the lawyers were busy
talking to Cristina Ferrare.
2375
01:31:19,391 --> 01:31:22,634
Cristina testified under oath
2376
01:31:22,644 --> 01:31:27,104
that she saw John
working in a large closet
2377
01:31:27,107 --> 01:31:31,522
with latex gloves on, signing documents,
2378
01:31:31,528 --> 01:31:34,520
backdating them, and
then aging the documents
2379
01:31:34,531 --> 01:31:36,067
under a sun lamp
2380
01:31:36,074 --> 01:31:37,030
so when the documents
2381
01:31:37,033 --> 01:31:39,149
would be forensically examined later on,
2382
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:40,901
his fingerprints wouldn't be on it.
2383
01:31:40,912 --> 01:31:42,573
His skin oil wouldn't be on it,
2384
01:31:42,580 --> 01:31:43,615
and of course the paper would
2385
01:31:43,623 --> 01:31:45,113
have aged under the sun lamp,
2386
01:31:45,125 --> 01:31:47,332
and she testified that
she saw him do that,
2387
01:31:47,335 --> 01:31:49,451
so John was very busy
2388
01:31:49,462 --> 01:31:50,952
creating a set of documents
2389
01:31:50,964 --> 01:31:52,295
in the dark of night,
2390
01:31:52,298 --> 01:31:54,335
but his wife was watching him.
2391
01:31:57,345 --> 01:31:59,131
After reviewing the records,
2392
01:31:59,139 --> 01:32:01,597
there came a time when the trial started
2393
01:32:01,599 --> 01:32:03,590
to recover this money that John had taken
2394
01:32:03,601 --> 01:32:04,841
from the company,
2395
01:32:04,853 --> 01:32:05,934
and I started to really get
2396
01:32:05,937 --> 01:32:08,224
a good look at John as a person
2397
01:32:08,231 --> 01:32:10,689
and the true nature of his character,
2398
01:32:10,692 --> 01:32:12,274
so he walks in court one clay,
2399
01:32:12,277 --> 01:32:13,108
and then he looks at me,
2400
01:32:13,111 --> 01:32:14,943
and he says, "1 was on
the radio this morning.
2401
01:32:14,946 --> 01:32:17,813
"I was talking about
you and your testimony."
2402
01:32:17,824 --> 01:32:20,316
He goes, “But I'm not sure
1 got your name right.“
2403
01:32:20,326 --> 01:32:22,988
He said, "Is there one
H in Shithead or two?"
2404
01:32:24,497 --> 01:32:25,328
And 1 said, wow,
2405
01:32:26,750 --> 01:32:29,868
but by then I also realized we had him.
2406
01:32:29,878 --> 01:32:31,710
In other words, he was acting out
2407
01:32:31,713 --> 01:32:33,078
because we knew we had him.
2408
01:32:33,089 --> 01:32:35,421
Between us having the financial evidence
2409
01:32:35,425 --> 01:32:37,883
and Cristina would testify
2410
01:32:37,886 --> 01:32:41,595
that John had been forging
documents and aging documents,
2411
01:32:41,598 --> 01:32:43,430
John needed to settle that case,
2412
01:32:43,433 --> 01:32:45,140
actually cough up the money
2413
01:32:45,143 --> 01:32:47,510
that had been stolen from the investors
2414
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,306
in the DeLorean partnership.
2415
01:32:49,314 --> 01:32:50,975
- [Man] Would you deny
therefore that you had
2416
01:32:50,982 --> 01:32:52,768
any of that $17 million?
2417
01:32:52,776 --> 01:32:53,937
- Excuse me a minute.
2418
01:32:53,943 --> 01:32:55,729
1 have to get a drink.
2419
01:32:55,737 --> 01:32:57,193
- [Man] John DeLorean was not prepared
2420
01:32:57,197 --> 01:32:58,562
to answer any further questions
2421
01:32:58,573 --> 01:33:00,780
about the missing $17.6 million.
2422
01:33:08,541 --> 01:33:10,703
- In the drug trial, John
really could grasp on
2423
01:33:10,710 --> 01:33:11,825
to that idea of,
2424
01:33:11,836 --> 01:33:14,123
"1 was the victim here.
2425
01:33:14,130 --> 01:33:18,374
"I got sucked into a situation
of overzealous people,
2426
01:33:18,384 --> 01:33:21,046
"overzealous government, that
was trying to take me down
2427
01:33:21,054 --> 01:33:23,011
"as a legitimate business owner.
2428
01:33:23,014 --> 01:33:25,676
In the case of the money trials,
2429
01:33:25,683 --> 01:33:28,015
it's very hard to take the approach
2430
01:33:28,019 --> 01:33:29,259
that he was the victim
2431
01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:31,682
because all of it was his own doing.
2432
01:33:31,689 --> 01:33:34,272
- [Man] You start to see
this real true character,
2433
01:33:34,275 --> 01:33:36,516
this underlying nature of John,
2434
01:33:36,528 --> 01:33:38,986
not the public persona
that he had worked so hard
2435
01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:40,695
to cultivate for years.
2436
01:33:40,698 --> 01:33:44,737
- He had built this
giant bubble of an image
2437
01:33:44,744 --> 01:33:46,234
making him believe he could
2438
01:33:46,246 --> 01:33:47,862
kind of get away with anything.
2439
01:33:48,832 --> 01:33:51,995
This was not the little guy fighting
2440
01:33:52,001 --> 01:33:54,038
the Goliath like GM.
2441
01:33:54,045 --> 01:33:57,504
This instead was someone
in his business dealings
2442
01:33:57,507 --> 01:33:59,623
who acted like the Goliath
2443
01:33:59,634 --> 01:34:02,843
and trampled on other people's dreams
2444
01:34:02,846 --> 01:34:07,090
and really hurt some
individuals very badly.
2445
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:08,306
- I'm not a psychiatrist,
2446
01:34:08,309 --> 01:34:12,143
but 1 think that he was
okay in the beginning,
2447
01:34:12,147 --> 01:34:14,434
and 1 think he just got carried away.
2448
01:34:15,316 --> 01:34:16,806
I think that he could have saved it
2449
01:34:16,818 --> 01:34:18,650
if he'd had the right attitude,
2450
01:34:18,653 --> 01:34:20,235
but I think he thought
it was more important
2451
01:34:20,238 --> 01:34:23,981
to make a buck than to be successful.
2452
01:34:25,285 --> 01:34:27,401
- That is part of the real tragedy
2453
01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:29,528
in going back to the what ifs.
2454
01:34:30,456 --> 01:34:34,370
What if John and Colin
hadn't embezzled that money,
2455
01:34:34,377 --> 01:34:37,119
and he had still had $17 and half million
2456
01:34:37,130 --> 01:34:39,337
at the time when he
needed desperately cash
2457
01:34:39,340 --> 01:34:40,501
to keep the company open?
2458
01:34:40,508 --> 01:34:41,339
- We're the FBI.
2459
01:34:41,342 --> 01:34:43,083
- [Tamir] By stealing that money,
2460
01:34:43,094 --> 01:34:45,426
John really painted himself into a corner,
2461
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:47,922
and he had to find the
money somewhere else,
2462
01:34:47,932 --> 01:34:50,139
and to think if he could have only held on
2463
01:34:50,143 --> 01:34:51,508
for a few more years.
2464
01:34:51,519 --> 01:34:53,351
(car engine running)
2465
01:34:53,354 --> 01:34:57,143
(dramatic instrumental music)
2466
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:06,944
- DOC.
2467
01:35:08,536 --> 01:35:10,152
- Marty, you made it.
2468
01:35:10,163 --> 01:35:11,028
- Yeah.
2469
01:35:11,039 --> 01:35:12,450
- Welcome to my latest experiment.
2470
01:35:12,457 --> 01:35:13,288
This is the big one,
2471
01:35:13,291 --> 01:35:15,453
the one I've been waiting for all my life.
2472
01:35:15,460 --> 01:35:16,825
- Wow, it's a DeLorean, right--
2473
01:35:16,836 --> 01:35:17,667
- Bear with me, Marty.
2474
01:35:17,670 --> 01:35:18,626
All your questions will be answered.
2475
01:35:18,630 --> 01:35:19,586
Roll tape--
2476
01:35:19,589 --> 01:35:20,420
- Yeah, okay I'm rolling--
2477
01:35:20,423 --> 01:35:22,835
- when Bob Zemeckis and 1 first
wrote “Back To The Future,“
2478
01:35:22,842 --> 01:35:26,460
the time machine was a refrigerator,
2479
01:35:26,471 --> 01:35:30,260
and Bob Zemeckis, the director, said,
2480
01:35:30,266 --> 01:35:34,430
"Wouldn't it be simpler
if Doc actually built
2481
01:35:34,437 --> 01:35:36,269
"the time machine into a car?"
2482
01:35:36,272 --> 01:35:40,641
And then he says, "And what
if the car was a DeLorean?"
2483
01:35:40,652 --> 01:35:41,608
It wasn't my idea
2484
01:35:41,611 --> 01:35:43,522
but 1 know damn good idea when 1 hear one.
2485
01:35:43,529 --> 01:35:45,315
This was a damn good idea,
2486
01:35:45,323 --> 01:35:47,234
so 1 said, yeah, that's great.
2487
01:35:47,242 --> 01:35:50,405
- When this baby hits 88 miles per hour,
2488
01:35:50,411 --> 01:35:52,197
you're gonna see some serious shit.
2489
01:35:53,373 --> 01:35:56,035
(electronic beeping)
2490
01:35:56,042 --> 01:35:57,453
(car engine running)
2491
01:35:57,460 --> 01:36:00,794
- [Bob] We, 1 think, did a great job
2492
01:36:00,797 --> 01:36:03,004
in making the DeLorean glamorous
2493
01:36:03,007 --> 01:36:06,125
and endearing it to generations
2494
01:36:06,135 --> 01:36:09,548
of movie fans and car fans.
2495
01:36:09,555 --> 01:36:11,967
- 88 miles per hour.
2496
01:36:12,850 --> 01:36:15,433
- If only we'd stayed alive
2497
01:36:15,436 --> 01:36:18,645
and we'd continued for another two years.
2498
01:36:18,648 --> 01:36:21,561
You can't buy that publicity now, can you?
2499
01:36:22,819 --> 01:36:25,811
- [Man] "Back To The Future" makes the car
2500
01:36:25,822 --> 01:36:27,984
and the man truly immortal.
2501
01:36:28,908 --> 01:36:30,774
100 years from now,
2502
01:36:30,785 --> 01:36:32,241
people will watch that movie,
2503
01:36:33,204 --> 01:36:35,491
and the last running DeLorean
2504
01:36:35,498 --> 01:36:38,331
may have consumed its last drop of fuel
2505
01:36:38,334 --> 01:36:40,041
and eaten its last piston,
2506
01:36:40,044 --> 01:36:42,035
but that movie will carry on.
2507
01:36:44,007 --> 01:36:45,168
- After the movie came out,
2508
01:36:45,174 --> 01:36:47,040
about two or three weeks later,
2509
01:36:47,051 --> 01:36:49,713
we got one of the best
fan letters we ever got,
2510
01:36:49,721 --> 01:36:51,211
and it was from John DeLorean.
2511
01:36:51,222 --> 01:36:54,010
He said that he'd just seen the movie.
2512
01:36:54,017 --> 01:36:55,428
He thought it was brilliant,
2513
01:36:56,686 --> 01:36:59,644
and he said, "Thank you for
keeping my dream alive."
2514
01:37:03,609 --> 01:37:04,815
- Back in a time when
2515
01:37:06,321 --> 01:37:10,815
I was lead to believe films
about him were percolating,
2516
01:37:14,746 --> 01:37:15,577
there were a couple of them,
2517
01:37:15,580 --> 01:37:16,536
to my recollection,
2518
01:37:16,539 --> 01:37:17,904
that people were gonna make.
2519
01:37:19,125 --> 01:37:20,206
I get a phone call,
2520
01:37:22,545 --> 01:37:23,956
and it was DeLorean,
2521
01:37:27,216 --> 01:37:29,002
and I have to imagine he was probably
2522
01:37:30,303 --> 01:37:31,668
out of the house, the big house,
2523
01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:32,965
and living in this apartment,
2524
01:37:32,972 --> 01:37:35,839
the scene that we're gonna shoot today.
2525
01:37:35,850 --> 01:37:36,931
Yeah, I was on the phone with him,
2526
01:37:36,934 --> 01:37:42,020
and he was like, "Alex, this
is John DeLorean calling."
2527
01:37:42,023 --> 01:37:42,854
He's very old.
2528
01:37:42,857 --> 01:37:44,518
He sounded older.
2529
01:37:44,525 --> 01:37:45,981
He said, "I understand they're making
2530
01:37:45,985 --> 01:37:48,943
"this motion picture about me,
2531
01:37:48,946 --> 01:37:52,780
"and I would be very flattered
2532
01:37:52,784 --> 01:37:56,448
"if you were to portray me in the movie."
2533
01:37:56,454 --> 01:37:59,242
1 thought, wow,
2534
01:37:59,248 --> 01:38:00,079
1 mean, to have the guy
2535
01:38:00,083 --> 01:38:01,039
who's the real guy pick you,
2536
01:38:02,293 --> 01:38:04,785
and then it went away.
2537
01:38:04,796 --> 01:38:06,002
(laughing)
2538
01:38:06,005 --> 01:38:08,121
I never heard from him again,
2539
01:38:08,132 --> 01:38:10,715
but, 1 mean, to me,
2540
01:38:10,718 --> 01:38:13,301
DeLorean is a lot of things.
2541
01:38:13,304 --> 01:38:16,092
Every day, I think about who is he,
2542
01:38:16,099 --> 01:38:18,136
1 have a different answer.
2543
01:38:18,142 --> 01:38:20,634
Today my attitude about DeLorean,
2544
01:38:20,645 --> 01:38:22,932
you watch historical footage,
2545
01:38:22,939 --> 01:38:25,681
and you get kind of inflamed
2546
01:38:25,691 --> 01:38:26,647
'cause you see that he did a lot
2547
01:38:26,651 --> 01:38:28,358
of bad things to some people,
2548
01:38:28,361 --> 01:38:29,772
and he hurt a lot of people,
2549
01:38:29,779 --> 01:38:30,985
and he stole from people,
2550
01:38:32,782 --> 01:38:33,772
and at the same time,
2551
01:38:36,077 --> 01:38:38,159
I feel like he was somebody who,
2552
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,947
like a lot of great American stories,
2553
01:38:41,958 --> 01:38:44,416
he just perverted some dream that he had.
2554
01:38:44,419 --> 01:38:47,628
(gentle instrumental music)
2555
01:38:47,630 --> 01:38:49,837
You remember the DMC, don't you?
2556
01:38:49,841 --> 01:38:50,626
Yeah.
2557
01:38:52,218 --> 01:38:53,800
How could you forget it, right?
2558
01:38:53,803 --> 01:38:55,043
It was one of a kind.
2559
01:38:56,973 --> 01:38:59,180
It really was one of a kind.
2560
01:38:59,183 --> 01:39:02,972
- As full as John's life
was those first 60 years,
2561
01:39:02,979 --> 01:39:06,597
the last 20 years are
actually more simple.
2562
01:39:06,607 --> 01:39:09,019
This is one of John's Bibles
2563
01:39:09,026 --> 01:39:12,860
which he actually gave to his nephew Mark.
2564
01:39:12,864 --> 01:39:14,480
He became a born again Christian.
2565
01:39:15,366 --> 01:39:17,528
It was a very important part of his life.
2566
01:39:17,535 --> 01:39:19,572
He dated several women
throughout the years,
2567
01:39:19,579 --> 01:39:21,616
and then ended up
re-marrying late in life,
2568
01:39:21,622 --> 01:39:24,660
and then in 2000, had
to declare bankruptcy,
2569
01:39:24,667 --> 01:39:27,159
in which he lost his Bedminster Estate
2570
01:39:27,170 --> 01:39:29,207
and lived the last five years of his life
2571
01:39:29,213 --> 01:39:30,624
in a one bedroom apartment.
2572
01:39:31,674 --> 01:39:33,164
- His whole fucking life, his whole dream,
2573
01:39:33,176 --> 01:39:35,292
everything that he worked for
2574
01:39:35,303 --> 01:39:37,419
from the time they broke ground
2575
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:39,512
till the time of the arrest, gone.
2576
01:39:44,228 --> 01:39:45,514
- [Man] Was it a blow to your pride
2577
01:39:45,521 --> 01:39:48,229
to you trying to shape your life again?
2578
01:39:48,232 --> 01:39:51,350
- Well, I felt terrible
about it for a long time.
2579
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,146
I felt terrible for my children,
2580
01:39:53,154 --> 01:39:55,395
who've this has been an extremely
2581
01:39:55,406 --> 01:39:57,693
difficult thing for them,
2582
01:39:57,700 --> 01:39:59,862
but life is life.
2583
01:39:59,869 --> 01:40:00,734
It goes on.
2584
01:40:02,038 --> 01:40:04,450
- Your father is shamed and goes to jail.
2585
01:40:04,457 --> 01:40:06,039
Your family loses all their money.
2586
01:40:06,042 --> 01:40:07,703
Your parents get divorced.
2587
01:40:07,710 --> 01:40:09,417
Everything in your world changes,
2588
01:40:09,420 --> 01:40:12,037
and for the next 15 years of your life
2589
01:40:12,048 --> 01:40:14,836
you get chased by,
2590
01:40:14,842 --> 01:40:16,173
"Is your father in jail?"
2591
01:40:16,177 --> 01:40:17,542
And cocaine jokes,
2592
01:40:17,553 --> 01:40:19,009
and all of these things
2593
01:40:19,013 --> 01:40:21,095
that just followed along with it.
2594
01:40:22,058 --> 01:40:25,471
My entire life I had to live it down.
2595
01:40:26,771 --> 01:40:29,889
It followed me for a very long time.
2596
01:40:29,899 --> 01:40:32,106
It followed me around until I started
2597
01:40:32,109 --> 01:40:36,524
to get involved into
the DeLorean community.
2598
01:40:38,658 --> 01:40:40,444
People used to invite my dad
2599
01:40:40,451 --> 01:40:43,239
to all these car shows all the time,
2600
01:40:43,246 --> 01:40:45,328
and 1 asked him.
2601
01:40:45,331 --> 01:40:48,198
I said, Dad, Dad, let's go.
2602
01:40:48,209 --> 01:40:50,416
You have to experience this.
2603
01:40:50,419 --> 01:40:54,458
Knowing how much he was still loved
2604
01:40:54,465 --> 01:40:57,253
would definitely make a
difference in his life.
2605
01:40:59,178 --> 01:41:00,168
- Thank you.
2606
01:41:01,347 --> 01:41:03,133
- [Kathryn] It was an amazing experience.
2607
01:41:03,140 --> 01:41:05,677
It was everything I hoped it would be
2608
01:41:05,685 --> 01:41:06,641
and then some.
2609
01:41:06,644 --> 01:41:08,351
- 1 just met John DeLorean
for the third time.
2610
01:41:08,354 --> 01:41:09,139
Document that.
2611
01:41:10,189 --> 01:41:11,350
The man is unbelievable.
2612
01:41:13,401 --> 01:41:16,359
- [Kathryn] He really did get to bask
2613
01:41:16,362 --> 01:41:19,696
in his glory a little bit again.
2614
01:41:19,699 --> 01:41:21,906
(mumbling)
2615
01:41:23,536 --> 01:41:25,243
- Do you consider the whole DeLorean dream
2616
01:41:25,246 --> 01:41:26,452
to have been a failure?
2617
01:41:26,455 --> 01:41:28,412
- Oh, I think that I
showed a lot of people
2618
01:41:28,416 --> 01:41:31,659
that whether you survive or not,
2619
01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:33,501
the key is it's like Shakespeare said.
2620
01:41:33,504 --> 01:41:34,915
"It's better to have loved and lost
2621
01:41:34,922 --> 01:41:36,754
"than not to have loved at all."
2622
01:41:36,757 --> 01:41:38,418
1 gave it the best shot 1 had.
2623
01:41:38,426 --> 01:41:40,292
I tried as hard as I could,
2624
01:41:40,303 --> 01:41:44,467
and I think that I did reasonably well.
2625
01:41:44,473 --> 01:41:45,304
It's a tragedy--
2626
01:41:45,308 --> 01:41:48,096
- I think DeLorean was very much alone.
2627
01:41:48,102 --> 01:41:51,436
Part of the fallout
from compartmentalizing
2628
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:53,396
his life the way he did
2629
01:41:54,358 --> 01:41:58,317
is that he really didn't have anybody
2630
01:41:58,321 --> 01:42:00,528
who knew him through and through.
2631
01:42:01,657 --> 01:42:04,820
This is not a man who's
looking at his family life
2632
01:42:04,827 --> 01:42:08,365
or his friends to qualify
2633
01:42:08,372 --> 01:42:09,908
his reason for living.
2634
01:42:09,915 --> 01:42:11,747
It's, "What have I accomplished?
2635
01:42:11,751 --> 01:42:12,582
“What have 1 done?
2636
01:42:12,585 --> 01:42:14,872
“What am 1 doing next?“
2637
01:42:14,879 --> 01:42:16,119
That in his mind,
2638
01:42:16,130 --> 01:42:19,122
this is what really reflects on him
2639
01:42:19,133 --> 01:42:20,874
as a human being.
2640
01:42:20,885 --> 01:42:21,795
- When we come around here,
2641
01:42:21,802 --> 01:42:24,339
what I'd like to do is repeat this action
2642
01:42:24,347 --> 01:42:25,883
and just put this down here
2643
01:42:25,890 --> 01:42:27,176
and then look up at the car,
2644
01:42:27,183 --> 01:42:28,264
and 1 want to say something very
2645
01:42:28,267 --> 01:42:30,053
specific to him about the car.
2646
01:42:30,061 --> 01:42:30,892
- [Man] Cool.
2647
01:42:30,895 --> 01:42:33,512
- No film can tell the definitive
story of anybody's life.
2648
01:42:33,522 --> 01:42:36,230
Anyone's life is just too vast
2649
01:42:36,233 --> 01:42:38,941
and complex for one film,
2650
01:42:38,944 --> 01:42:42,187
but a film could certainly create
2651
01:42:42,198 --> 01:42:43,984
the legend of John DeLorean,
2652
01:42:43,991 --> 01:42:47,109
and we print the legend.
2653
01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:48,860
The legend is what we love.
2654
01:42:48,871 --> 01:42:50,703
That's what we should have.
2655
01:42:53,584 --> 01:42:55,996
- [Zach] Let's just hypothetically say
2656
01:42:56,003 --> 01:42:58,335
that when he went into
the hotel that night,
2657
01:42:58,339 --> 01:42:59,795
he knew he was walking out
2658
01:42:59,799 --> 01:43:01,710
with a suitcase full of cocaine.
2659
01:43:02,677 --> 01:43:04,509
I can't necessarily blame him.
2660
01:43:06,472 --> 01:43:08,713
How far would you be willing to go
2661
01:43:08,724 --> 01:43:10,306
to save something you worked
2662
01:43:10,309 --> 01:43:12,471
your whole life for, your life's dream?
2663
01:43:12,478 --> 01:43:15,220
What would you do to see that succeed
2664
01:43:15,231 --> 01:43:16,187
no matter what?
2665
01:43:20,569 --> 01:43:22,435
- He always kept trying.
2666
01:43:22,446 --> 01:43:25,313
He never gave up the dream.
2667
01:43:25,324 --> 01:43:28,066
He never quit believing
2668
01:43:28,077 --> 01:43:29,192
that there was a potential
2669
01:43:29,203 --> 01:43:30,159
for him to recover,
2670
01:43:30,162 --> 01:43:31,448
that he was going to invent
2671
01:43:31,455 --> 01:43:32,411
the next great thing,
2672
01:43:32,415 --> 01:43:33,655
that he was going to be able
2673
01:43:33,666 --> 01:43:35,953
to reclaim his former glory.
2674
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:37,416
He was John DeLorean,
2675
01:43:37,420 --> 01:43:40,833
and he was John DeLorean
until the day he died.
2676
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:41,671
- I think he was still
2677
01:43:41,674 --> 01:43:44,837
trying to make fucking deals on that DMC-2
2678
01:43:44,844 --> 01:43:46,380
when he got the heart attack,
2679
01:43:48,139 --> 01:43:50,801
and I think that would be a
good way to end the movie.
2680
01:43:51,934 --> 01:43:52,765
You could have him
2681
01:43:52,768 --> 01:43:54,475
on the phone eating some breakfast
2682
01:43:55,980 --> 01:43:58,187
with an open notebook thing
2683
01:43:58,190 --> 01:43:59,430
that you'd show investors
2684
01:43:59,442 --> 01:44:02,980
with all the nice little
pictures and stuff,
2685
01:44:02,987 --> 01:44:04,022
talking on the phone,
2686
01:44:04,029 --> 01:44:06,145
and then it just fades to black
2687
01:44:06,157 --> 01:44:08,273
because then that last
image would just be him
2688
01:44:08,284 --> 01:44:11,322
working to get that deal done,
2689
01:44:11,328 --> 01:44:15,117
and God pulled the plug on his ass, man.
2690
01:44:16,041 --> 01:44:17,281
You're out of here, buddy.
2691
01:44:19,211 --> 01:44:20,918
Then it just goes black,
2692
01:44:20,921 --> 01:44:22,332
and then John DeLorean died
2693
01:44:22,339 --> 01:44:24,455
in Morristown, New Jersey,
2694
01:44:24,467 --> 01:44:27,505
at fucking 80 years old
on this date, you know?
2695
01:44:27,511 --> 01:44:31,129
Never to have fulfilled
another car company,
2696
01:44:31,140 --> 01:44:33,097
build another car company,
2697
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:35,137
and I'd be okay with that.
2698
01:44:35,144 --> 01:44:36,805
- [Man] And slate, that's good.
2699
01:44:36,812 --> 01:44:37,643
(mumbling)
2700
01:44:37,646 --> 01:44:40,058
- [Man] Scene 28 alpha, take two.
2701
01:44:40,065 --> 01:44:42,102
- [Man] Great, thank you.
2702
01:44:46,071 --> 01:44:46,936
- [Woman] Action.
2703
01:44:46,947 --> 01:44:50,565
(gentle instrumental music)
2704
01:48:51,025 --> 01:48:51,856
- 1 mean, if we can't get the money
2705
01:48:51,859 --> 01:48:53,441
to distribute this movie,
2706
01:48:53,444 --> 01:48:54,605
would we sell cocaine to try
2707
01:48:54,611 --> 01:48:55,726
to get this movie distributed?
2708
01:48:55,738 --> 01:48:56,569
- [Woman] Sure.
2709
01:48:56,572 --> 01:48:57,858
- We don't want to lose either.
2710
01:48:57,865 --> 01:48:58,900
- [Woman] No.
2711
01:48:58,907 --> 01:49:00,318
- I'm counting on you, Sheena.
197514
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