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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,780 --> 00:00:10,109 [Music] 2 00:00:06,019 --> 00:00:11,548 in 1814 a baby girl was born in a tiny 3 00:00:10,109 --> 00:00:14,309 Scottish village 4 00:00:11,548 --> 00:00:23,750 she was named Margaret after her mother 5 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:27,268 [Music] 6 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:31,339 her father worked long hard days cutting 7 00:00:27,268 --> 00:00:31,339 trees in the forests of Aberdeen sure 8 00:00:31,460 --> 00:00:36,570 when she grew up she married her 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:39,210 sweetheart in a dress that despite her 10 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:43,768 tall figure failed to obscure eight 11 00:00:39,210 --> 00:00:46,198 months of pregnancy over the next 18 12 00:00:43,768 --> 00:00:47,269 years Margaret gave birth to seven 13 00:00:46,198 --> 00:00:50,549 children 14 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:54,030 [Music] 15 00:00:50,549 --> 00:00:56,159 and when her youngest James was two she 16 00:00:54,030 --> 00:00:56,870 was admitted to the Aberdeen lunatic 17 00:00:56,159 --> 00:01:00,289 asylum 18 00:00:56,869 --> 00:01:00,289 [Music] 19 00:01:01,719 --> 00:01:08,929 when James was 9 his dear sister Jane 20 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:12,050 set off on a sailing ship to a place 21 00:01:08,930 --> 00:01:14,950 they called New Zealand she said it was 22 00:01:12,049 --> 00:01:18,560 on the other side of the world 23 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:22,010 as soon as James came of age he followed 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,930 his big sister to that faraway place was 25 00:01:22,010 --> 00:01:26,660 he running away from the specter of his 26 00:01:23,930 --> 00:01:30,050 mother's madness we'll never know but he 27 00:01:26,659 --> 00:01:32,409 took with him an inheritance deep within 28 00:01:30,049 --> 00:01:35,478 the fiber of his being 29 00:01:32,409 --> 00:01:38,989 James passed the inheritance to his son 30 00:01:35,478 --> 00:01:41,649 William who passed it on to Mavis my 31 00:01:38,989 --> 00:01:41,649 grandmother 32 00:01:50,859 --> 00:01:56,560 my name is Bridget for generations 33 00:01:54,069 --> 00:01:59,949 Huntington's disease has decimated my 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:02,379 family hammington disease has been 35 00:01:59,950 --> 00:02:05,250 described as the worst disease known to 36 00:02:02,379 --> 00:02:07,420 man Huntington Rob's you of who you are 37 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:09,280 involuntary movement which is called 38 00:02:07,420 --> 00:02:12,069 Korea it's actually a word that comes 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,050 from the Greek word meaning a dance and 40 00:02:12,069 --> 00:02:15,639 we get the modern word choreography from 41 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:16,870 the worst thing is watching somebody's 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,909 personality melt away 43 00:02:16,870 --> 00:02:20,920 Huntington patients are really trapped 44 00:02:18,909 --> 00:02:23,560 within their own bodies this also an 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,419 increased incidence of suicide it is a 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,969 slowly progressive disease that plays 47 00:02:25,419 --> 00:02:29,769 out over over a couple of decades we 48 00:02:27,969 --> 00:02:31,599 don't have many treatments for 49 00:02:29,770 --> 00:02:33,219 Huntington's disease and there's no cure 50 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:36,099 for ending tenses at the present time 51 00:02:33,219 --> 00:02:37,930 but even worse than that is that at the 52 00:02:36,099 --> 00:02:40,180 time that you might be dying of your 53 00:02:37,930 --> 00:02:42,700 illness is the recognition that your 54 00:02:40,180 --> 00:02:45,790 children might also follow the same 55 00:02:42,699 --> 00:02:48,099 course will my generation witnessed the 56 00:02:45,789 --> 00:02:51,340 yielding of this affliction or will it 57 00:02:48,099 --> 00:02:54,340 continue unabated this is the story of 58 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:56,159 me and my family facing up to an 59 00:02:54,340 --> 00:03:01,269 invisible enemy that threatens 60 00:02:56,159 --> 00:03:03,909 everything we love I was too young to 61 00:03:01,269 --> 00:03:06,909 know my grandmother Mavis very well but 62 00:03:03,909 --> 00:03:09,099 my mum would tell me about her she would 63 00:03:06,909 --> 00:03:12,909 take herself to town and go and buy that 64 00:03:09,099 --> 00:03:16,000 and she would fall over on the street an 65 00:03:12,909 --> 00:03:18,250 alcoholic the chemists shop she went to 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:25,900 a lot and he was very he would take her 67 00:03:18,250 --> 00:03:28,509 and get home so she ended up in hospital 68 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:30,640 and I'll never ever ever forget going 69 00:03:28,509 --> 00:03:31,959 and then finding her in this ward and 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,679 here she was she must have been on 71 00:03:31,959 --> 00:03:37,449 valium and she was just all the traces 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,430 of the personality had gone and she was 73 00:03:37,449 --> 00:03:42,099 too stoked up to the eyeballs just 74 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:44,170 sitting sort of in retrospect we should 75 00:03:42,099 --> 00:03:46,750 have done more for him I didn't really 76 00:03:44,169 --> 00:03:50,309 realise that that state what it was but 77 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:50,310 she may have had Parkinson's and 78 00:03:54,620 --> 00:04:00,259 mum was shocked she was told that it was 79 00:03:57,289 --> 00:04:02,870 hereditary the odds were 50/50 that she 80 00:04:00,259 --> 00:04:04,759 had inherited it and if she had she may 81 00:04:02,870 --> 00:04:06,819 have already passed it on to any number 82 00:04:04,759 --> 00:04:10,068 of her three children 83 00:04:06,818 --> 00:04:13,119 Mavis died after 15 years of mental and 84 00:04:10,068 --> 00:04:18,019 physical deterioration at the age of 62 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:58,250 mum told me to have the chance to say 86 00:04:18,019 --> 00:05:00,348 goodbye it breaks my always knew about 87 00:04:58,250 --> 00:05:02,089 the risk of Huntington's disease because 88 00:05:00,348 --> 00:05:04,038 of my parents attitude that they 89 00:05:02,089 --> 00:05:06,918 shouldn't hide anything from their three 90 00:05:04,038 --> 00:05:09,348 children and we grew up in a frenzy of 91 00:05:06,918 --> 00:05:11,019 adventure with a family motto of trying 92 00:05:09,348 --> 00:05:19,550 to fit in as much as we could to 93 00:05:11,019 --> 00:05:23,299 everyday meanwhile scientists had been 94 00:05:19,550 --> 00:05:25,788 hard at work and in 1993 the gene for 95 00:05:23,300 --> 00:05:27,770 Huntington's disease was found after ten 96 00:05:25,788 --> 00:05:30,800 years of searching near the top of 97 00:05:27,769 --> 00:05:32,258 chromosome 4 the following year mum took 98 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,000 advantage of the newly developed 99 00:05:32,259 --> 00:05:38,810 predictive tests which could tell her if 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:41,060 she had inherited the HD gene it doesn't 101 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:43,339 skip a generation so if she didn't have 102 00:05:41,060 --> 00:05:48,168 it then me and my brothers couldn't have 103 00:05:43,339 --> 00:05:51,799 it when jude was tested positive for the 104 00:05:48,168 --> 00:05:56,269 disease I was just crying my eyes out 105 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:59,300 was a tragedy to know that this disease 106 00:05:56,269 --> 00:06:01,538 could be possibly passed on to you 107 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:01,538 children 108 00:06:02,110 --> 00:06:08,090 genes are made up of four chemicals that 109 00:06:04,819 --> 00:06:11,029 are represented by the letters a C G and 110 00:06:08,089 --> 00:06:13,219 T what the scientists had found was 111 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:15,519 remarkably simple on the top of 112 00:06:13,220 --> 00:06:18,890 chromosome four the parts are spelled C 113 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:21,529 AG everyone has this gene but people who 114 00:06:18,889 --> 00:06:25,250 have Huntington's disease have too many 115 00:06:21,529 --> 00:06:28,669 repeats of CAG in theirs that's what the 116 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:32,360 genetic test tells you how many CAG 117 00:06:28,670 --> 00:06:35,360 repeats you have mum has 43 particularly 118 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:38,050 over 39 people would tend to develop 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:41,240 Huntington disease anyone who has an 120 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:44,210 expanded gene has a 50% chance of 121 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:48,460 passing on that gene anytime they have a 122 00:06:44,209 --> 00:06:50,269 kid so it's exactly like tossing a coin 123 00:06:48,459 --> 00:06:52,489 if you could actually get that 124 00:06:50,269 --> 00:06:55,009 surgically implanted here really makes 125 00:06:52,490 --> 00:06:58,069 me need to carry it around and free up 126 00:06:55,009 --> 00:07:00,019 your arms after some years of living in 127 00:06:58,069 --> 00:07:02,360 the UK where my brothers Nick and 128 00:07:00,019 --> 00:07:06,319 Warwick were also living I settled in 129 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:10,490 Sydney and by 2003 I found myself in 130 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:13,279 love and unexpectedly pregnant I'd been 131 00:07:10,490 --> 00:07:15,040 so sure I would find out my gene status 132 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:18,259 before bringing children into the world 133 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:21,740 but Geoff and I found termination wasn't 134 00:07:18,259 --> 00:07:25,430 an option after our beautiful boy was 135 00:07:21,740 --> 00:07:26,810 born I quickly had the test I was 136 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:28,430 thinking I'd be let off the hook that 137 00:07:26,810 --> 00:07:30,500 they would say you don't have 138 00:07:28,430 --> 00:07:34,060 Huntington's and I'd go around cheering 139 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:34,060 and everything would be lovely 140 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:41,069 but it wasn't I too would dance the 141 00:07:39,449 --> 00:07:59,550 Richard dance 142 00:07:41,069 --> 00:07:59,550 [Music] 143 00:08:04,129 --> 00:08:08,000 what normally 144 00:08:09,589 --> 00:08:16,408 tragically around 10 percent of people 145 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:18,960 with Huntington's are children but the 146 00:08:16,408 --> 00:08:23,579 average age for adult onset is between 147 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:26,750 35 and 45 and generally the earlier you 148 00:08:23,579 --> 00:08:29,818 get it the faster it progresses 149 00:08:26,750 --> 00:08:32,879 luckily mum didn't start developing 150 00:08:29,819 --> 00:08:35,579 symptoms until her mid-50s she'd always 151 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:37,099 been a great talker and words started to 152 00:08:35,578 --> 00:08:50,039 fail her 153 00:08:37,099 --> 00:08:52,290 this little plasma symptoms crept up on 154 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:54,719 her I found my test results had left me 155 00:08:52,289 --> 00:08:57,149 feeling guilty for my child's future I 156 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,639 thought if I came to understand the 157 00:08:57,149 --> 00:09:02,879 disease more I could show him I wasn't 158 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:05,009 afraid of it as an HD family we had been 159 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:08,039 inextricably linked to scientists 160 00:09:05,009 --> 00:09:09,240 studying the disease my mum had been 161 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:12,120 friends with the visionary 162 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,579 neuroscientist Professor Paul for many 163 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,649 years he's the director of the center 164 00:09:14,578 --> 00:09:18,899 for brain research in Auckland where 165 00:09:16,649 --> 00:09:20,759 they study Huntington's brains 166 00:09:18,899 --> 00:09:24,208 she had knows something about this meter 167 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:26,549 she was always the person who it felt 168 00:09:24,208 --> 00:09:28,469 bit of having met so what is really 169 00:09:26,549 --> 00:09:32,219 interesting about Huntington's disease 170 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:33,778 is that it causes cells to die in their 171 00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:36,209 millions and the area called the basal 172 00:09:33,778 --> 00:09:38,309 ganglia it sits right in the center of 173 00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:39,989 the brain in the normal brain you can 174 00:09:38,309 --> 00:09:41,909 see the basal ganglia via this the 175 00:09:39,990 --> 00:09:44,250 normal brain whereas man in his brain 176 00:09:41,909 --> 00:09:46,919 they are striking down as a result the 177 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:49,799 ventricle becomes massive along with 178 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:51,838 professor fall scientists all around the 179 00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:53,759 world had been working passionately on 180 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:55,800 understanding Huntington's for decades 181 00:09:53,759 --> 00:09:58,649 their progress was gathering momentum 182 00:09:55,799 --> 00:10:01,948 the cerebral cortex at enormous sheet of 183 00:09:58,649 --> 00:10:04,559 tissue around the surface of the brain 184 00:10:01,948 --> 00:10:06,809 which actually separates humans from 185 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,849 other primates this is one of the most 186 00:10:06,809 --> 00:10:11,549 evolved parts of the human brain also 187 00:10:08,850 --> 00:10:13,860 becomes dysfunctional but the more we 188 00:10:11,549 --> 00:10:15,819 look the more we find to understand what 189 00:10:13,860 --> 00:10:18,279 they had discovered we have to go 190 00:10:15,820 --> 00:10:20,290 deep down into the fiber of our beings 191 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:22,629 to see our bodies a million times 192 00:10:20,289 --> 00:10:25,599 magnified when molecular machines 193 00:10:22,629 --> 00:10:27,909 replicate the mutant Huntington's DNA 194 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,649 unaware of the mistake in the recipe 195 00:10:27,909 --> 00:10:32,139 it's a bad gene which makes a bad 196 00:10:29,649 --> 00:10:34,059 protein and it does a lot of bad things 197 00:10:32,139 --> 00:10:35,710 and that's a scary thing you know and 198 00:10:34,059 --> 00:10:37,809 some diseases you're lucky and it might 199 00:10:35,710 --> 00:10:39,220 be you know one bad protein maybe like 200 00:10:37,809 --> 00:10:40,569 kills a blood cell or they're really 201 00:10:39,220 --> 00:10:42,310 difficult thing with Huntington's 202 00:10:40,570 --> 00:10:43,390 disease and the Huntington protein if 203 00:10:42,309 --> 00:10:45,369 there's a lot of bad things 204 00:10:43,389 --> 00:10:47,799 proteins hasta together so they become 205 00:10:45,370 --> 00:10:49,990 kind of sticky like glue so they form 206 00:10:47,799 --> 00:10:52,000 these very small balls inside the nerve 207 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:55,299 cells inside the brain is a bit like 208 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:58,059 pouring cement inside a brain cell which 209 00:10:55,299 --> 00:11:00,759 calls the brain cells to die this gene 210 00:10:58,059 --> 00:11:03,819 is expressed everywhere in all the cells 211 00:11:00,759 --> 00:11:07,919 from the body and we might get effects 212 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:10,360 in all the cells in the body so it's 213 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:13,110 it's it's more than a disease of the 214 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,519 brain I would say it's estimated around 215 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:18,310 600,000 people worldwide have 216 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:20,559 Huntington's disease symptoms are varied 217 00:11:18,309 --> 00:11:23,259 in their severity and onset for each 218 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:26,039 person it helps to break it down into 219 00:11:23,259 --> 00:11:26,039 four stages 220 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,210 [Music] 221 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:57,860 that's because I've anyway the initial 222 00:11:54,889 --> 00:11:59,958 symptoms are quite subtle mum started 223 00:11:57,860 --> 00:12:01,759 getting the movements late at night and 224 00:11:59,958 --> 00:12:04,338 she'd sit there with her leg or her arm 225 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:07,069 jerking around but she'd always hold 226 00:12:04,339 --> 00:12:09,860 them down the person may become offer 227 00:12:07,070 --> 00:12:12,920 familiar with strangers they may lose 228 00:12:09,860 --> 00:12:20,419 the ability to understand other people's 229 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:31,009 emotions I'm happy impossible and the 230 00:12:20,419 --> 00:12:39,439 idea the the steps so I know what to do 231 00:12:31,009 --> 00:12:41,659 what what to what to acknowledge and the 232 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:45,560 hardest part probably the irrationality 233 00:12:41,659 --> 00:12:49,069 of it people might do bizarre stuff like 234 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:51,289 start buying things that they would have 235 00:12:49,070 --> 00:12:53,360 never spent money on before in and go 236 00:12:51,289 --> 00:12:56,120 through a lot of money and also being 237 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:59,269 unable to work so families end up often 238 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:02,570 in a very poor financial situation there 239 00:12:59,269 --> 00:13:04,159 should never be nothing you can do for 240 00:13:02,570 --> 00:13:06,278 someone with Huntington's disease it 241 00:13:04,159 --> 00:13:08,750 bothers me that I think around the world 242 00:13:06,278 --> 00:13:10,939 patients and families are still left 243 00:13:08,750 --> 00:13:13,129 with that impression they go to the 244 00:13:10,940 --> 00:13:15,110 doctor's office and they're told well 245 00:13:13,129 --> 00:13:17,480 that's a fatal disease there's there's 246 00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:19,129 nothing I can really do for you I was 247 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,050 always told as a medical student we 248 00:13:19,129 --> 00:13:23,299 don't make new brain cells and then the 249 00:13:21,049 --> 00:13:26,120 Huntington's brain mercy we found that 250 00:13:23,299 --> 00:13:27,509 this layer of stem cells was in fact not 251 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,929 only there 252 00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:33,269 but we saw it multiply the more advanced 253 00:13:30,929 --> 00:13:34,859 the disease the more new brain cells the 254 00:13:33,269 --> 00:13:36,960 brain was trying to make from these stem 255 00:13:34,860 --> 00:13:39,360 cells in other words it was trying to 256 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,490 appear itself by studies that we've 257 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:45,180 ended on the normal brain we found that 258 00:13:41,490 --> 00:13:46,440 every person can make new brain cells it 259 00:13:45,179 --> 00:13:49,019 was revolutionary 260 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,520 we made this discovery that if we took 261 00:13:49,019 --> 00:13:52,409 the mice and increase their levels of 262 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:54,870 metal and physical activity we found 263 00:13:52,409 --> 00:13:57,149 that led to a dramatic delay and onset 264 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:59,610 of these symptoms of Huntington's 265 00:13:57,149 --> 00:14:01,110 disease in the mice the idea that you 266 00:13:59,610 --> 00:14:04,830 can stay more mentally and physically 267 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:07,680 active and building a brain reserve but 268 00:14:04,830 --> 00:14:09,210 together with a good diet and other 269 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,559 things that if that are healthy for the 270 00:14:09,210 --> 00:14:12,560 body and therefore healthy for the brain 271 00:14:13,460 --> 00:14:19,410 mum exercised took supplements used 272 00:14:16,769 --> 00:14:22,470 brain training and alternative therapies 273 00:14:19,409 --> 00:14:26,399 she read and know everything that was 274 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:28,560 going on about the disease she would see 275 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:30,689 all the challenges and the ways you 276 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:32,639 could overcome the disease we're taking 277 00:14:30,690 --> 00:14:34,950 a different attitude to it and that 278 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:36,539 we're trying all sorts of things if 279 00:14:34,950 --> 00:14:38,850 there's possibly this'll work we'll give 280 00:14:36,539 --> 00:14:39,990 it a go we believe that cumulatively 281 00:14:38,850 --> 00:14:42,240 they 282 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:48,230 to slow down the progression of disease 283 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:50,789 so you really live the way with finding 284 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:53,700 finding ways to beat Huntington's the 285 00:14:50,789 --> 00:14:55,528 one thing that every every every HD 286 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:58,110 person will say is that they are 287 00:14:55,528 --> 00:15:02,278 convinced without question that exercise 288 00:14:58,110 --> 00:15:03,839 is helpful aerobic daily great couldn't 289 00:15:02,278 --> 00:15:06,088 it have been that lying around like a 290 00:15:03,839 --> 00:15:08,520 slob was the thing they found helped did 291 00:15:06,089 --> 00:15:11,310 it have to be exercise I'd avoided it 292 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:14,069 reasonably well for 20 years and now it 293 00:15:11,309 --> 00:15:15,989 was my lifeline the problem is you have 294 00:15:14,070 --> 00:15:18,420 to get going quite fast to get brain 295 00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:19,490 regeneration and I wasn't going that 296 00:15:18,419 --> 00:15:23,309 fast 297 00:15:19,490 --> 00:15:25,379 Charles Sabine a former TV journalist is 298 00:15:23,309 --> 00:15:26,819 now a spokesperson for people with 299 00:15:25,379 --> 00:15:29,879 Huntington's disease 300 00:15:26,820 --> 00:15:31,770 he's got the gene too as I talked to him 301 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:33,750 I sensed that he lived with the same 302 00:15:31,769 --> 00:15:36,929 knowing that I did the same background 303 00:15:33,750 --> 00:15:39,269 hammer of dread the important point is 304 00:15:36,929 --> 00:15:42,000 environmental enrichment what you don't 305 00:15:39,269 --> 00:15:44,338 want to do is sit in a room so it's not 306 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,240 to have any stress the one good thing is 307 00:15:44,339 --> 00:15:50,160 about the freakin disease is that grass 308 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:53,250 is good for you it's dope really 309 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:53,549 cannabis can avoid receptors good for 310 00:15:53,250 --> 00:15:56,549 you 311 00:15:53,549 --> 00:15:58,620 sex is probably good yeah I mean I just 312 00:15:56,549 --> 00:16:00,509 say that as logically as because it's 313 00:15:58,620 --> 00:16:01,700 environmental enrichment it's exercise 314 00:16:00,509 --> 00:16:05,509 that's getting your heart rate up 315 00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:05,509 depending on who's on top 316 00:16:07,809 --> 00:16:11,750 speaking of which Jeff and I wanted to 317 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:13,360 have another child 318 00:16:11,750 --> 00:16:15,440 lucky for us those hard-working 319 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,990 scientists had come up with a way to 320 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:22,550 have children free of the disease in 321 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:26,240 early 2006 we booked in for IVF our 322 00:16:22,549 --> 00:16:28,909 chance of success was around 35% in 323 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,839 addition to normal IVF we had to go 324 00:16:28,909 --> 00:16:33,980 through a process called 325 00:16:29,839 --> 00:16:37,550 pre-implantation genetic diagnosis we 326 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:40,220 had 22 eggs collected 5 days later only 327 00:16:37,549 --> 00:16:42,828 four had grown to the size they needed 328 00:16:40,220 --> 00:16:45,410 to be for testing it turned out that 329 00:16:42,828 --> 00:16:50,088 three of the four had the Huntington's 330 00:16:45,409 --> 00:16:53,750 gene so we had one embryo without HD one 331 00:16:50,089 --> 00:16:56,779 chance we were extremely lucky and the 332 00:16:53,750 --> 00:17:00,649 embryo resulted in a pregnancy and a 333 00:16:56,778 --> 00:17:03,740 gorgeous baby boy was born who has 0% 334 00:17:00,649 --> 00:17:05,058 chance of having Huntington's disease so 335 00:17:03,740 --> 00:17:07,609 if you don't have the gene then you 336 00:17:05,058 --> 00:17:11,209 can't pass it on that's right and that's 337 00:17:07,609 --> 00:17:12,889 why with our second son he he won't 338 00:17:11,209 --> 00:17:20,449 develop Huntington's and he won't pass 339 00:17:12,890 --> 00:17:23,059 it on and your first son you don't know 340 00:17:20,449 --> 00:17:25,730 have you discussed with your partner 341 00:17:23,058 --> 00:17:27,259 about when he should know the genetic 342 00:17:25,730 --> 00:17:28,970 counselors strongly advised that 343 00:17:27,259 --> 00:17:32,629 children aren't tested for Huntington's 344 00:17:28,970 --> 00:17:33,950 and so it's after he's 18 he can decide 345 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:36,830 for himself whether or not he wants to 346 00:17:33,950 --> 00:17:38,150 be tested so I don't think it is 347 00:17:36,829 --> 00:17:40,960 something that he needs to know before 348 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:40,960 he's an adult 349 00:17:44,569 --> 00:17:58,168 we didn't have available the technology 350 00:17:48,929 --> 00:18:02,730 that Bridget and Jeff have used if PGD 351 00:17:58,169 --> 00:18:04,879 had been available and had we known at 352 00:18:02,730 --> 00:18:26,878 the time we were conceiving our children 353 00:18:04,878 --> 00:18:31,378 would we have done that absolutely we've 354 00:18:26,878 --> 00:18:33,538 come along once mum's brain deteriorated 355 00:18:31,378 --> 00:18:35,969 further she would visit us and do crazy 356 00:18:33,538 --> 00:18:37,769 things like wander around naked seeing 357 00:18:35,970 --> 00:18:40,500 things that weren't there and I would 358 00:18:37,769 --> 00:18:41,669 watch her horrified walking about like a 359 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:43,679 living nightmare 360 00:18:41,669 --> 00:18:46,049 I would imagine myself that way in my 361 00:18:43,679 --> 00:18:48,389 future and I would imagine my son with 362 00:18:46,048 --> 00:18:52,319 it and go back to being horrified for 363 00:18:48,388 --> 00:18:54,359 her if my son does have the gene I worry 364 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:57,388 that I won't be there to look after him 365 00:18:54,359 --> 00:19:00,869 a friend of my mum has been looking 366 00:18:57,388 --> 00:19:12,298 after her son for the last 19 years you 367 00:19:00,869 --> 00:19:17,069 remember Judy don't show he's been on 368 00:19:12,298 --> 00:19:19,740 the ticket for research she's now on the 369 00:19:17,069 --> 00:19:23,128 pureed food so he sort of had those few 370 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:26,009 symptoms of 27 and I've got him on the 371 00:19:23,128 --> 00:19:27,418 medication for hallucinating we don't 372 00:19:26,009 --> 00:19:35,878 know what he says sometimes it's 373 00:19:27,419 --> 00:19:38,129 absolutely yeah I mean it well that's 374 00:19:35,878 --> 00:19:41,269 what it is that just just definitely 375 00:19:38,128 --> 00:19:45,079 crates you can only do so much to hell 376 00:19:41,269 --> 00:19:48,450 you know you you kind of powerless 377 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:50,079 really as a mother you think I can 378 00:19:48,450 --> 00:19:53,890 always look after much 379 00:19:50,079 --> 00:19:56,529 take them we can't but she just can't go 380 00:19:53,890 --> 00:19:59,460 in and you've got to keep on doing what 381 00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:59,460 you can do 382 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:15,400 I am inspired by her by the way she's 383 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,299 she's fought to to try to keep the 384 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,690 symptoms at bay 385 00:20:16,299 --> 00:20:23,829 I was probably it more inspired a few 386 00:20:19,690 --> 00:20:26,019 years ago and just lately she's been 387 00:20:23,829 --> 00:20:27,549 deteriorating quite a lot one of the 388 00:20:26,019 --> 00:20:29,710 symptoms of Huntington's is losing 389 00:20:27,549 --> 00:20:31,359 social inhibition we went to a cafe once 390 00:20:29,710 --> 00:20:32,680 and she got too hot so she took both her 391 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:37,659 tops off and she was sitting there in a 392 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:39,850 bra people with Huntington's disease can 393 00:20:37,660 --> 00:20:42,519 develop psychiatric problems the most 394 00:20:39,849 --> 00:20:44,980 common is depression the other area 395 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:46,750 would be psychosis believing in things 396 00:20:44,980 --> 00:20:48,880 that are not true and also 397 00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:52,420 hallucinations as seeing or hearing 398 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:55,750 things that are not perceivable by other 399 00:20:52,420 --> 00:20:58,690 people she was starting to think that 400 00:20:55,750 --> 00:21:00,460 dad was really out to get her and then 401 00:20:58,690 --> 00:21:02,350 after a while she'd been there she 402 00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:04,809 started to think that you were out to 403 00:21:02,349 --> 00:21:06,639 get her and then finally she started to 404 00:21:04,809 --> 00:21:09,039 worry about me being at together she 405 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,850 thought that I was trying to kill her 406 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:15,490 and it was until we got to a drug called 407 00:21:11,849 --> 00:21:18,789 seroquel that we got it got on to a drug 408 00:21:15,490 --> 00:21:21,900 which she could live on as soon as she 409 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:26,680 took those pills within 24 hours she was 410 00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:29,380 back to normal just about everybody who 411 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:33,100 meets her and comments to me says look 412 00:21:29,380 --> 00:21:35,650 she's trying she's doing so well but she 413 00:21:33,099 --> 00:21:37,329 does look like she's drunk one thing 414 00:21:35,650 --> 00:21:39,130 they say about the career you know the 415 00:21:37,329 --> 00:21:41,740 movement disorder is that it actually 416 00:21:39,130 --> 00:21:43,300 bothers other people much more than it 417 00:21:41,740 --> 00:21:45,039 does the person with E because he's 418 00:21:43,299 --> 00:21:46,690 horrible to see it's very scary my 419 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:50,170 brother's gone really bad right now 420 00:21:46,690 --> 00:21:51,500 she can't keep her League still I'm 421 00:21:50,170 --> 00:21:54,660 trying to 422 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:54,660 [Music] 423 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:05,549 [Music] 424 00:22:07,269 --> 00:22:12,529 the connections between the deep 425 00:22:09,769 --> 00:22:13,849 movement centers and the frontal lobe 426 00:22:12,529 --> 00:22:16,009 the big bit at the front of the brain 427 00:22:13,849 --> 00:22:18,558 that's unique to humans and gives us our 428 00:22:16,009 --> 00:22:20,419 personality but also a sense of self and 429 00:22:18,558 --> 00:22:23,089 so the connections between those two 430 00:22:20,419 --> 00:22:24,350 areas are affected early in Huntington's 431 00:22:23,089 --> 00:22:27,619 which is probably why we get this 432 00:22:24,349 --> 00:22:29,869 combination of involuntary movements but 433 00:22:27,619 --> 00:22:33,099 also loss of insight and particularly 434 00:22:29,869 --> 00:22:35,599 loss of insight into those movements I 435 00:22:33,099 --> 00:22:38,959 can't really have a conversation with 436 00:22:35,599 --> 00:22:42,730 mum the responses are you know they are 437 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:46,909 quite simple but sometimes she can be so 438 00:22:42,730 --> 00:22:49,220 lucid so all of a sudden you can have a 439 00:22:46,909 --> 00:22:51,520 conversation about something you live 440 00:22:49,220 --> 00:22:51,519 for those moments 441 00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:58,610 night undersell got him may have had 442 00:22:57,470 --> 00:23:03,000 instantly 443 00:22:58,609 --> 00:23:05,609 and because my brain she's still going 444 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,740 for a walk it's best she can she's still 445 00:23:05,609 --> 00:23:10,709 going to the gym we were looking at a 446 00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:14,930 trial on a drug called Demi bond it's 447 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:18,329 the big hope we have he has to tell him 448 00:23:14,930 --> 00:23:21,029 to do everything you know to get dressed 449 00:23:18,329 --> 00:23:25,199 which clothes to me and she follows him 450 00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:29,119 about and yet still he just loves it and 451 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,120 you'll do anything for you family 452 00:23:29,390 --> 00:23:37,620 divorces make sure she she thinks she's 453 00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:40,470 beating it and it's the drugs you know 454 00:23:37,619 --> 00:23:43,429 in her mind she's getting better I don't 455 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:46,700 have the heart to tell her otherwise 456 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:46,700 speaking left 457 00:23:54,029 --> 00:23:59,799 it continues to amaze me how courageous 458 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,050 and resilient families are with 459 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:05,230 Huntington disease for some people this 460 00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:07,690 will bring up the beast and family and 461 00:24:05,230 --> 00:24:10,960 other families the gene tears families 462 00:24:07,690 --> 00:24:13,809 apart you cannot go through the course 463 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,360 of Huntington's disease alone and in 464 00:24:13,809 --> 00:24:18,009 fact I don't think that that a couple 465 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,289 can really go through the course of 466 00:24:18,009 --> 00:24:23,920 Huntington's disease alone just the two 467 00:24:20,289 --> 00:24:26,409 of them in fact I feel as a physician I 468 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,210 can't really care for a patient or a 469 00:24:26,410 --> 00:24:31,690 couple with Huntington's disease by 470 00:24:28,210 --> 00:24:35,230 myself I think it is done best by a team 471 00:24:31,690 --> 00:24:38,200 by a community by a family people's 472 00:24:35,230 --> 00:24:40,599 relationships change from being husband 473 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,759 and wife it's very different to being 474 00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:44,319 carer in patient it's a totally 475 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:48,129 different relationship the thing that 476 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:51,009 motivates me is going back and looking 477 00:24:48,130 --> 00:24:52,210 at photos of her particularly when we 478 00:24:51,009 --> 00:24:54,400 were courting and when were engaged 479 00:24:52,210 --> 00:24:56,769 somewhere a married he's so proud of how 480 00:24:54,400 --> 00:25:00,390 gorgeous you he was so proud he go 481 00:24:56,769 --> 00:25:02,349 who would ever deny she isn't worth 482 00:25:00,390 --> 00:25:06,310 looking after for the rest of her life 483 00:25:02,349 --> 00:25:08,679 such a stunning person it's easy knowing 484 00:25:06,309 --> 00:25:12,009 the times we had then to say wrong okay 485 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:15,310 it's my turn my turn to look after brain 486 00:25:12,009 --> 00:25:18,670 just doesn't compute those instructions 487 00:25:15,309 --> 00:25:23,379 and I think she's aware because to me 488 00:25:18,670 --> 00:25:25,840 things like yeah you're lucky you're 489 00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:28,900 from a strong family some people have 490 00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:32,079 got nobody else and if I don't help them 491 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:34,480 there is nobody either their families 492 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:37,379 are dead or they've designed them 493 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:40,299 because they've created mayhem or 494 00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:43,810 they've got no money or they've drunk 495 00:25:40,299 --> 00:25:48,669 themselves into oblivion I had a client 496 00:25:43,809 --> 00:25:51,009 who was very very unwell in he had a 497 00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:52,870 phone bill and he couldn't pay it and he 498 00:25:51,009 --> 00:25:54,720 was living in a house and had this huge 499 00:25:52,869 --> 00:25:56,429 lemon tree out the bag 500 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,430 like we didn't see if I've got this 501 00:25:56,430 --> 00:26:02,400 great recipe for a lemon cordial that 502 00:25:59,430 --> 00:26:05,160 was my grandmother's so I started making 503 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,050 it and I've sell it so that I can pay 504 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,810 the bills for people buy them things 505 00:26:07,049 --> 00:26:13,309 that they need Jeannette also takes 506 00:26:09,809 --> 00:26:13,309 people to the hydrotherapy pool 507 00:26:17,509 --> 00:26:20,670 [Music] 508 00:26:23,299 --> 00:26:32,499 [Music] 509 00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:41,519 [Music] 510 00:26:43,789 --> 00:26:51,178 they of his balls she chokes sometimes 511 00:26:47,880 --> 00:27:11,700 she sees a psychologist in she's on 512 00:26:51,179 --> 00:27:15,419 medication six boys donor to me today I 513 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:18,058 think these three vectors Tendo 514 00:27:15,419 --> 00:27:20,740 Karen was only diagnosed last year and 515 00:27:18,058 --> 00:27:23,788 she does have quite a few 516 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:23,788 [Music] 517 00:27:38,169 --> 00:27:42,850 other than not don't move 518 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,139 but we've certainly had people that taxi 519 00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:50,919 drivers have thought they're drunk and 520 00:27:48,140 --> 00:27:50,919 looking 521 00:28:04,569 --> 00:28:08,200 when I was a child my mother became a 522 00:28:06,819 --> 00:28:10,960 founding member of the local 523 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,759 Huntington's Disease Association and did 524 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,039 her part to raise awareness of the 525 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:17,079 disease in the eighties she got a book 526 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:20,079 about living with Huntington's disease 527 00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:21,549 from dr. Edmund Chu for me it was the 528 00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:24,159 first time I'd seen the words 529 00:28:21,549 --> 00:28:26,769 Huntington's disease associated with the 530 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,950 word living rather than the word death 531 00:28:26,769 --> 00:28:33,220 this man dr. chu became a point of light 532 00:28:29,950 --> 00:28:34,960 in my teenage brain advocacy and 533 00:28:33,220 --> 00:28:38,019 Huntington's disease has mostly been 534 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:41,289 family led when the singer Woody Guthrie 535 00:28:38,019 --> 00:28:43,569 died of it in 1967 his wife Marjorie 536 00:28:41,289 --> 00:28:44,710 campaigned to raise awareness of it a 537 00:28:43,569 --> 00:28:46,990 year later 538 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:49,269 Milton Wexler set up the hereditary 539 00:28:46,990 --> 00:28:52,150 disease foundation after his wife was 540 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:54,369 diagnosed with the disease they had two 541 00:28:52,150 --> 00:28:56,320 children Nancy went on to be 542 00:28:54,369 --> 00:28:59,709 instrumental in the discovery of the 543 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:01,569 gene and Alice became a historian I'd 544 00:28:59,710 --> 00:29:03,880 always wanted to know more about where 545 00:29:01,569 --> 00:29:05,649 the name Huntington had come from Ellis 546 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,350 told me about the town of East Hampton 547 00:29:05,650 --> 00:29:10,630 in the US where in the 19th century 548 00:29:08,349 --> 00:29:13,599 there were many families with the 549 00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:17,770 disease in 1806 there was in the 550 00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:21,849 newspaper a little article about a woman 551 00:29:17,769 --> 00:29:24,250 who had disappeared one morning her 552 00:29:21,849 --> 00:29:26,919 husband had come home she was working at 553 00:29:24,250 --> 00:29:29,049 home she was ironing clothes and her 554 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,930 husband had gone to bed leaving her 555 00:29:29,049 --> 00:29:33,279 there working late at night but when he 556 00:29:31,930 --> 00:29:35,590 got up in the morning she wasn't there 557 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,389 it has become our duty to publish the 558 00:29:35,589 --> 00:29:39,399 following melancholy circumstance which 559 00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:43,120 took place at East Hampton a few weeks 560 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,920 since captain David hedges returned to 561 00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:46,809 his home in the evening and found mrs. 562 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,200 hedges ironing clothes and apparently in 563 00:29:46,809 --> 00:29:52,119 good health even the doctors journals it 564 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,920 had this woman whose name was Phoebe 565 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,809 hedges had called for the doctor to come 566 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,890 to see her she had been to prescribe 567 00:29:55,809 --> 00:29:58,889 various calming 568 00:30:01,019 --> 00:30:05,339 after considerable searchin enquiry her 569 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:07,410 footsteps were traced from the house 570 00:30:05,339 --> 00:30:09,808 through fields of grain to the shore and 571 00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:12,300 there is every reason to believe she has 572 00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:15,470 precipitated herself into the surf which 573 00:30:12,299 --> 00:30:15,470 washes to South Shore 574 00:30:21,049 --> 00:30:27,089 mrs. hedges is about 40 years of age and 575 00:30:24,329 --> 00:30:29,579 was much esteemed by her neighbors this 576 00:30:27,089 --> 00:30:31,709 extraordinary step is attributed to her 577 00:30:29,579 --> 00:30:33,990 extreme threat of a disorder called st. 578 00:30:31,710 --> 00:30:36,150 Vitus dance with which she began to be 579 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:38,700 affected and which her mother now has to 580 00:30:36,150 --> 00:30:51,259 a great degree 581 00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:51,259 [Music] 582 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,860 transyl arrangements of their clothing 583 00:30:54,799 --> 00:31:05,960 it appears she had for some time 584 00:30:56,859 --> 00:31:08,689 contemplated her melancholy and sixty 585 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,819 years later in the same town a doctor 586 00:31:08,690 --> 00:31:13,370 the son of the doctor who treated Phoebe 587 00:31:10,819 --> 00:31:15,919 hedges was visiting patients with his 588 00:31:13,369 --> 00:31:18,679 twelve-year-old son we suddenly came 589 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:26,630 upon two women mother and daughter both 590 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:29,570 bowing twisting grimacing the young 591 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:31,370 boy's name was George Huntington he is 592 00:31:29,569 --> 00:31:34,519 an interesting guy because for one thing 593 00:31:31,369 --> 00:31:37,519 he was only 21 I think when he wrote his 594 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:40,279 famous paper describing the hereditary 595 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:42,950 pattern other people had written about 596 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:45,259 it they knew it was hereditary but not 597 00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:47,450 the specific way that it was inherited 598 00:31:45,259 --> 00:31:50,029 his father and his grandfather brought 599 00:31:47,450 --> 00:31:53,480 physicians in East Hampton so they had 600 00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:56,029 been there for almost 75 years and they 601 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,819 had as their neighbors families with 602 00:31:56,029 --> 00:32:00,619 this disease so they had seen the 603 00:31:57,819 --> 00:32:02,359 different generations and George 604 00:32:00,619 --> 00:32:03,769 Huntington always said without his 605 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:05,449 father and his grandfather he could 606 00:32:03,769 --> 00:32:08,180 never have written the paper that he 607 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:12,110 wrote subsequently of course the disease 608 00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:14,509 was named after him around the same time 609 00:32:12,109 --> 00:32:17,269 over the other side of the Atlantic and 610 00:32:14,509 --> 00:32:19,490 Scotland my great-great-great 611 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:23,509 grandmother was decaying in the Aberdeen 612 00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:26,240 lunatic asylum 29th of April 1856 named 613 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:27,769 Margaret per day 42 years there was at 614 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,500 present marking the disorder or 615 00:32:27,769 --> 00:32:32,329 unnatural elevation of spirits violent 616 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:34,819 temper and a disposition much the 617 00:32:32,329 --> 00:32:36,230 reverse of that natural to her she has 618 00:32:34,819 --> 00:32:39,139 been violent towards her husband at 619 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:41,059 times she has also several delusions of 620 00:32:39,140 --> 00:32:42,259 witchcraft and others such as that 621 00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:44,960 people are doing her harm 622 00:32:42,259 --> 00:32:46,910 casting ill upon her but latterly her 623 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:50,779 talk has been mostly about money making 624 00:32:46,910 --> 00:32:53,210 on the 12th of February 1857 the doctor 625 00:32:50,779 --> 00:32:56,359 noted this case has remained stationary 626 00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:59,029 since admission she is noisy excited and 627 00:32:56,359 --> 00:33:02,149 incoherent when addressed five months 628 00:32:59,029 --> 00:33:04,359 later increasing emaciation and ability 629 00:33:02,150 --> 00:33:07,000 of body have become associated with 630 00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:08,919 acute attack of bronchitis which has 631 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,750 confined her to her bed for about a 632 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,840 fortnight and which seems to be 633 00:33:10,750 --> 00:33:17,519 threatening a fatal termination nine 634 00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:17,519 days later she was dead 635 00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:32,920 her son James would have been just three 636 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,350 at her funeral he would have had no 637 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:40,140 memory of her when as an adult he 638 00:33:35,349 --> 00:33:42,689 emigrated to New Zealand well my face is 639 00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:53,650 [Music] 640 00:33:42,690 --> 00:33:55,930 burns I am bringing you he married 641 00:33:53,650 --> 00:33:58,660 another immigrant when he was 33 an 642 00:33:55,930 --> 00:34:02,259 English girl called Mary and had four 643 00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:04,880 children he was 46 when he accidentally 644 00:34:02,259 --> 00:34:12,059 drowned crossing the Manawatu River 645 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:14,800 [Music] 646 00:34:12,059 --> 00:34:17,049 his son William lived long enough to 647 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,150 develop the disease however and in fact 648 00:34:17,050 --> 00:34:22,390 be diagnosed by a doctor out from 649 00:34:19,150 --> 00:34:25,389 Scotland around 1950 who recognized 650 00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:28,179 Huntington's disease but for some reason 651 00:34:25,389 --> 00:34:30,519 the rest of the family was never told I 652 00:34:28,179 --> 00:34:33,700 can't imagine what it would have been 653 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:36,929 like to bear such a burden alone I am 654 00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:36,928 bringing you 655 00:34:38,659 --> 00:34:43,679 [Music] 656 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,048 skiing had always been the way our 657 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:49,528 family came back together even when we 658 00:34:46,048 --> 00:34:52,108 lived far apart but this time in 2009 659 00:34:49,528 --> 00:34:55,260 our family was struggling with the 660 00:34:52,108 --> 00:34:57,598 fallout from predictive testing four 661 00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:59,789 years earlier my eldest brother Nick had 662 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:02,369 taken the test but chose to keep his 663 00:34:59,789 --> 00:35:04,980 positive result very private just two 664 00:35:02,369 --> 00:35:06,960 close friends and family meanwhile my 665 00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:10,260 other brother Warwick prepared to take 666 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:13,440 his predictive tests this strong family 667 00:35:10,260 --> 00:35:16,049 was creaking at its foundations a hell 668 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:22,130 of a legacy to leave your kids to have 669 00:35:16,048 --> 00:35:24,599 to deal with the odds are still 50/50 670 00:35:22,130 --> 00:35:27,568 although it's tempting isn't it to think 671 00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:31,680 that it's gonna fall the right way this 672 00:35:27,568 --> 00:35:32,639 time well in our family we'd all wanted 673 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:34,768 to be tested 674 00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:37,259 it wasn't something everyone at risk of 675 00:35:34,768 --> 00:35:39,088 Huntington's wanted to do by far the 676 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:41,730 majority of people are not having 677 00:35:39,088 --> 00:35:44,489 predictive testing but those who want 678 00:35:41,730 --> 00:35:47,219 the predictive gene test really wanted 679 00:35:44,489 --> 00:35:51,078 when I was working for NBC in the last 680 00:35:47,219 --> 00:35:55,048 days of the war in Bosnia I was taken 681 00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:58,710 captive by some Russia Hadean guerrillas 682 00:35:55,048 --> 00:36:00,630 and who would had executed some people 683 00:35:58,710 --> 00:36:02,400 the day before so we were by the wall 684 00:36:00,630 --> 00:36:05,490 where they'd executed these people and 685 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,950 one of them held a grenade to my head at 686 00:36:05,489 --> 00:36:09,959 one point which about is is a scarier 687 00:36:07,949 --> 00:36:13,078 moment as you can imagine but that was 688 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:16,019 not as scary as taking that test for HD 689 00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:18,450 for someone who already knows about what 690 00:36:16,018 --> 00:36:21,409 Huntington's disease is to go through 691 00:36:18,449 --> 00:36:26,038 that test which is so going to be so 692 00:36:21,409 --> 00:36:28,108 completely and utterly determining so 693 00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:30,720 this is Meccan fate I've got written by 694 00:36:28,108 --> 00:36:32,699 Ella Switzer about her family there's 695 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,308 something at the front of it everyone 696 00:36:32,699 --> 00:36:38,068 real or imagined deserves the open 697 00:36:35,309 --> 00:36:39,778 destiny of life the open destiny of life 698 00:36:38,068 --> 00:36:41,548 that's what got me that's what I feel 699 00:36:39,778 --> 00:36:43,650 like it's been taken away because I did 700 00:36:41,548 --> 00:36:44,940 the predictive tests did you think I was 701 00:36:43,650 --> 00:36:47,338 absolutely no way I'm gonna have that 702 00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:49,108 was he when I was a kid my mum didn't 703 00:36:47,338 --> 00:36:51,028 know what she was so it needed both of 704 00:36:49,108 --> 00:36:51,980 you - yeah and that would be really 705 00:36:51,028 --> 00:36:55,070 unlucky right 706 00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:56,900 yeah well good luck thing you always 707 00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:58,580 start thinking about luck don't you do 708 00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,500 finally start thinking about casinos and 709 00:36:58,579 --> 00:37:03,259 like red and black lettering coins and 710 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:05,050 stuff because I thought my father had it 711 00:37:03,260 --> 00:37:08,270 yeah my brother had it 712 00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:10,220 someone's got to not have it by a lot 713 00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:11,570 you know it's like surely that's right 714 00:37:10,219 --> 00:37:13,549 because I was the first one to be tested 715 00:37:11,570 --> 00:37:16,309 so I thought I realized when my brother 716 00:37:13,550 --> 00:37:18,530 got tested and he also had it I was 717 00:37:16,309 --> 00:37:19,460 pissed off I I thought I'm supposed to 718 00:37:18,530 --> 00:37:22,369 be the fall guy 719 00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:24,108 and so my my second brother the third of 720 00:37:22,369 --> 00:37:27,440 our siblings is gonna have his test soon 721 00:37:24,108 --> 00:37:31,569 and we're all just going oh god where it 722 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:36,920 took the test and he too tested positive 723 00:37:31,570 --> 00:37:39,680 three out of three bad luck it's 724 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:43,630 devastating tonigh that we passed on 725 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:43,629 this Hanuman's gene 726 00:37:43,690 --> 00:37:48,650 [Music] 727 00:37:53,420 --> 00:37:59,800 [Music] 728 00:37:55,409 --> 00:38:03,519 my heart cracks there'll be no one from 729 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:05,440 our generation left functioning my 730 00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:07,920 partner Jeff will be the only person 731 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:17,570 left standing 732 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:20,300 [Music] 733 00:38:17,570 --> 00:38:23,510 were can I talked about other things 734 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:26,789 about everything else but Huntington's a 735 00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:30,450 few days later I called my other brother 736 00:38:26,789 --> 00:38:32,519 Nick in the UK it surprised me a bit and 737 00:38:30,449 --> 00:38:34,500 you're never ever pause to think about 738 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:37,769 have I have been hard done by it you 739 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:40,469 know because there just simply isn't any 740 00:38:37,769 --> 00:38:40,880 point it was Carson's time forty years 741 00:38:40,469 --> 00:38:44,639 ago 742 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:47,460 you know we need to plan to be about to 743 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:50,940 support one another and we're gonna make 744 00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:53,880 sure the boys are taken care of and 745 00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:57,150 we've got to think about how what we 746 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,910 want to put ourselves and those that 747 00:38:57,150 --> 00:39:01,349 will be caring for us through there's 748 00:38:59,909 --> 00:39:04,920 the big question about how much of the 749 00:39:01,349 --> 00:39:07,380 HD experience you want to have - you 750 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,500 know I you know that I'm not interested 751 00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:14,250 in these middle or late stages of them 752 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:15,960 no no plans to go there that sounds 753 00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:18,210 McCart doesn't it but I mean this it's 754 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,490 probably a fair like I'd go of the Swiss 755 00:39:18,210 --> 00:39:24,960 appointment-plus I've also had the most 756 00:39:20,489 --> 00:39:26,849 astonishing time it's hard I'm a bit 757 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,960 touched to life to be honest I'm really 758 00:39:26,849 --> 00:39:31,860 attached to it so attached to it yeah 759 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,550 you have to give it up at some point 760 00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:43,220 right 761 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:45,560 [Music] 762 00:39:43,219 --> 00:39:48,169 I hear about someone who might be able 763 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:59,259 to help me a real expert on living with 764 00:39:48,170 --> 00:40:02,059 this disease all of us 765 00:39:59,260 --> 00:40:16,640 because most of us passed away between 766 00:40:02,059 --> 00:40:20,630 40 in 48 I'm saying my sister passed 767 00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:25,358 away and did these suicide in the car 768 00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:25,358 but would they think you clean up I'm 769 00:40:25,780 --> 00:40:33,500 thinking about doing more my sister dead 770 00:40:29,269 --> 00:40:42,170 cuz I thought at least my son wouldn't 771 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:43,338 have to wash me today I perfect I had 772 00:40:42,170 --> 00:40:48,920 myself 773 00:40:43,338 --> 00:40:53,029 I thought maybe not because I fail to be 774 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:54,769 selfish to go thing I've got two 775 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:56,990 brothers Emily 776 00:40:54,769 --> 00:40:59,440 we all have had the genetic test and 777 00:40:56,989 --> 00:41:04,279 we're all going to get hurt Ethan's oh 778 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:14,450 yeah I'd like some advice on how you 779 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:16,819 manage that it's a bit of a I can cope 780 00:41:14,449 --> 00:41:25,568 with a bit of humor 781 00:41:16,818 --> 00:41:30,050 I suppose of maybe they should be I 782 00:41:25,568 --> 00:41:35,318 think in my face in my church asleep it 783 00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:35,318 and I've fine 784 00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:49,139 virtually a I feel occasion made my 785 00:41:45,650 --> 00:41:59,430 movements on this book I think of the 786 00:41:49,139 --> 00:42:01,250 effect of drew the victim but all good 787 00:41:59,429 --> 00:42:05,210 man 788 00:42:01,250 --> 00:42:05,210 and kept it a secret 789 00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:58,250 I try with him 790 00:42:12,199 --> 00:43:00,588 I don't handle the idea of of imagining 791 00:42:58,250 --> 00:43:03,108 your future with Huntington's is that 792 00:43:00,588 --> 00:43:05,420 you think oh no I'm going to be an idiot 793 00:43:03,108 --> 00:43:07,969 I'm going to lose everything that I've 794 00:43:05,420 --> 00:43:09,740 worked so hard to be you know as as 795 00:43:07,969 --> 00:43:12,858 you're losing all these things that are 796 00:43:09,739 --> 00:43:14,629 important to you conscious of it I don't 797 00:43:12,858 --> 00:43:17,269 know how you deal with that 798 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:18,338 I mean debate it is the healthy way to 799 00:43:17,269 --> 00:43:20,780 deal with it 800 00:43:18,338 --> 00:43:23,150 the problem right now is that whenever I 801 00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:25,309 do anything silly I think that it's 802 00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:27,889 Huntington's coming on I'm really almost 803 00:43:25,309 --> 00:43:29,720 smack bang in the middle of the the time 804 00:43:27,889 --> 00:43:31,969 when you're supposed to get it he can 805 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,789 tell me that maybe I don't have any 806 00:43:31,969 --> 00:43:36,449 symptoms but I'm still stuck with the 807 00:43:34,789 --> 00:43:38,309 fact that I'm gonna get it sometime 808 00:43:36,449 --> 00:43:40,139 I should be exercising a lot more but 809 00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:43,828 I've really turned a corner with it you 810 00:43:40,139 --> 00:43:46,739 know and now I'm running and swimming 811 00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:48,450 and doing yoga Nick my older brother 812 00:43:46,739 --> 00:43:49,979 makes it sounds so intense and he's so 813 00:43:48,449 --> 00:43:52,230 intense about it he does the Sault Ste 814 00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:53,699 Marie says this is a discipline for the 815 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:55,309 rest of our lives if we want to keep 816 00:43:53,699 --> 00:43:57,899 ourselves off the feeding troubies 817 00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:59,489 deeply dramatic and also deeply freaks 818 00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:01,559 me up Bridget I'm going to give you a 819 00:43:59,489 --> 00:44:03,750 letter of the alphabet and I would like 820 00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:10,230 you to generate as many words as you can 821 00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:21,750 potato lion tiger hamster name these 822 00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:23,519 pictures for me kangaroo we now realize 823 00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:26,519 that people could develop thinking 824 00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:30,780 difficulties up to 15 years before they 825 00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:33,300 develop movement problems so we've 826 00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:34,950 tested your thinking ability and your 827 00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:38,310 movement today and both of them are 828 00:44:34,949 --> 00:44:40,199 clear so that that's good news there 829 00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:42,210 many circumstances where different 830 00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,460 family members in the same family have 831 00:44:42,210 --> 00:44:48,170 the same CAG repeats counts but these 832 00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:48,170 two have different ages of onset 833 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:57,699 that was it then I'd watch for early 834 00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:59,289 symptoms at least I wouldn't be like my 835 00:44:57,699 --> 00:45:02,259 great-grandfather William and 836 00:44:59,289 --> 00:45:04,599 grandmother Mavis as their symptoms came 837 00:45:02,260 --> 00:45:06,940 on they would have had no idea what they 838 00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:08,829 were when great-grandfather William was 839 00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:10,920 finally diagnosed and he would have 840 00:45:08,829 --> 00:45:14,259 found himself living in a society 841 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,940 inhospitable to hereditary disease in 842 00:45:14,260 --> 00:45:17,440 the late part of the 19th century early 843 00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:21,639 20th century this movement called 844 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:24,130 eugenics became very popular to bring 845 00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:26,500 about quote-unquote better breeding to 846 00:45:24,130 --> 00:45:29,369 improve the human race there were many 847 00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:32,170 advocates of compulsory sterilization 848 00:45:29,369 --> 00:45:34,779 particularly in mental institutions 849 00:45:32,170 --> 00:45:38,559 there was a biologist named Charles 850 00:45:34,780 --> 00:45:40,510 Davenport who was the leading eugenics 851 00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:42,190 scientist in the United States and the 852 00:45:40,510 --> 00:45:43,810 conclusion that he drew was people with 853 00:45:42,190 --> 00:45:47,139 Huntington's should not have children 854 00:45:43,809 --> 00:45:48,369 other people advocated that people at 855 00:45:47,139 --> 00:45:50,710 risk for Huntington's ought to get 856 00:45:48,369 --> 00:45:53,319 sterilized one of the main ways that 857 00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:56,920 eugenics has influenced Huntington's 858 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,480 families by creating the idea that of 859 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,519 course you shouldn't have children for 860 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,730 generations upon generations the disease 861 00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:06,280 has been associated with evil bad 862 00:46:03,730 --> 00:46:08,440 families you know witchcraft so 863 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,480 inevitably there has been a shame and a 864 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,700 stigma about the disease which has 865 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,949 profoundly affected the status of the 866 00:46:12,699 --> 00:46:17,169 people who have it for me personally 867 00:46:14,949 --> 00:46:19,779 when I started to learn about this 868 00:46:17,170 --> 00:46:21,880 history I got much more understanding of 869 00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:23,470 my mother I had been very angry at her 870 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,079 why didn't you tell us this this is 871 00:46:23,469 --> 00:46:28,149 really important for financing me to 872 00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:31,449 know about she had grown up during that 873 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:34,150 era of eugenics in the 1930s and in fact 874 00:46:31,449 --> 00:46:36,369 had studied biology so I thought she had 875 00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:38,860 good reasons for keeping it a secret the 876 00:46:36,369 --> 00:46:42,670 misdiagnosis tends to tended to happen 877 00:46:38,860 --> 00:46:44,769 because people you know general 878 00:46:42,670 --> 00:46:46,300 practitioners and you know and and 879 00:46:44,769 --> 00:46:47,559 doctors didn't see the disease because 880 00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:50,440 it was hidden so they didn't recognize 881 00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:51,210 it so people who did have it or just 882 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,309 died 883 00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:56,608 as being lunatics and two stuck in an 884 00:46:53,309 --> 00:46:58,829 asylum or even more recently diagnosed 885 00:46:56,608 --> 00:47:00,358 as having no schizophrenia when I tried 886 00:46:58,829 --> 00:47:02,639 to learn about Huntington disease in 887 00:47:00,358 --> 00:47:04,559 South Africa or Africa in the late 70s 888 00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:06,690 it was almost nothing written in fact 889 00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:09,750 most of my mentors told me it didn't 890 00:47:06,690 --> 00:47:11,639 exist we win then went on to visit every 891 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:14,400 single mental hospital in the country 892 00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:16,829 and identified hundreds of patients with 893 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,200 Huntington disease it has been massively 894 00:47:16,829 --> 00:47:21,539 massively hugely underestimated in its 895 00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:24,389 prevalence because of all of this in 896 00:47:21,539 --> 00:47:26,219 some parts of the world even today just 897 00:47:24,389 --> 00:47:28,049 as they's discrimination with people 898 00:47:26,219 --> 00:47:30,750 with mental illness hammington disease 899 00:47:28,050 --> 00:47:33,119 is hidden up until this point people 900 00:47:30,750 --> 00:47:35,969 have been ashamed about having this 901 00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:39,059 disease many families still don't talk 902 00:47:35,969 --> 00:47:41,399 about it and if they do talk about it it 903 00:47:39,059 --> 00:47:45,170 doesn't go well they might have seen 904 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:47,670 that the grandfather had Parkinson's or 905 00:47:45,170 --> 00:47:49,650 somebody committed suicide and then they 906 00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:52,530 just said they had some psychiatric 907 00:47:49,650 --> 00:47:56,910 illness my family like including my 908 00:47:52,530 --> 00:48:01,019 mother and or my brother and his family 909 00:47:56,909 --> 00:48:04,440 do not say the H word I remember was 910 00:48:01,019 --> 00:48:06,269 very open when she tested positive 911 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,990 she put a notice on the staff notice 912 00:48:06,269 --> 00:48:14,639 board telling everybody she tested 913 00:48:09,989 --> 00:48:16,559 positive funny because disease these 914 00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:17,159 diseases are just like diabetes and 915 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:19,289 cancer 916 00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:21,358 these are unfortunate but they don't 917 00:48:19,289 --> 00:48:23,460 carry any other value judgment they 918 00:48:21,358 --> 00:48:25,108 don't say who you are as a person they 919 00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:28,079 say you're just unfortunate 920 00:48:25,108 --> 00:48:32,039 communication brings awareness and that 921 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:34,909 process dissolves fear the patient's the 922 00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:37,139 families who are open about it who 923 00:48:34,909 --> 00:48:40,858 engage themselves in the larger 924 00:48:37,139 --> 00:48:43,159 community who who do not marginalize the 925 00:48:40,858 --> 00:48:45,329 person who's suffering with the disease 926 00:48:43,159 --> 00:48:46,440 amazing beautiful wonderful things 927 00:48:45,329 --> 00:48:54,579 happen 928 00:48:46,440 --> 00:49:01,570 [Music] 929 00:48:54,579 --> 00:49:04,940 June of 2011 Judy was diagnosed with 930 00:49:01,570 --> 00:49:06,910 rectal cancer as well because it's a new 931 00:49:04,940 --> 00:49:10,150 her ballot also means that she is 932 00:49:06,909 --> 00:49:12,710 incontinent her feces because she 933 00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:14,630 doesn't understand necessarily what's 934 00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:19,460 going on she might take everything off 935 00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:20,780 and and just go to the toilets wherever 936 00:49:19,460 --> 00:49:22,760 because she's not conscious of doing 937 00:49:20,780 --> 00:49:28,610 that she's probably just gonna die of 938 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:30,110 cancer which is except that it's really 939 00:49:28,610 --> 00:49:31,730 tricky because dad's trying to deal with 940 00:49:30,110 --> 00:49:34,309 her of course I mean I don't mean to 941 00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:36,650 sound clever I know you know you can 942 00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:38,179 sound but do you know I wish that my 943 00:49:36,650 --> 00:49:40,130 father there could have been something 944 00:49:38,179 --> 00:49:42,849 that could have taken him yeah before 945 00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:42,849 the last year 946 00:50:00,389 --> 00:50:05,349 the cancer grew and blocked mums bowel 947 00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:09,000 so if she didn't have a colostomy 948 00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:09,000 operation she would die 949 00:50:19,630 --> 00:50:24,510 as a family we'd previously discussed 950 00:50:22,389 --> 00:50:27,099 that we would let the cancer take her 951 00:50:24,510 --> 00:50:50,590 but when it came to the moment of truth 952 00:50:27,099 --> 00:50:52,329 we couldn't let it go for your father 953 00:50:50,590 --> 00:50:54,579 the hardest thing is that he really 954 00:50:52,329 --> 00:50:57,009 thought they had slowed your mum's 955 00:50:54,579 --> 00:50:59,019 deterioration and they've done 956 00:50:57,010 --> 00:51:01,180 everything that they could and I think 957 00:50:59,019 --> 00:51:06,150 that's really difficult for him to now 958 00:51:01,179 --> 00:51:06,149 see that things haven't been stopped 959 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:27,539 [Music] 960 00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:36,309 you are having a bit of trouble with the 961 00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:38,360 carers how does that been more recently 962 00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:45,049 and when did you now see your 963 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:57,079 grandchildren what their names ones you 964 00:51:45,050 --> 00:52:02,480 saw most recently James hello just come 965 00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:05,929 and see how you're getting on it's a 966 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,340 nice thing to say George that's a really 967 00:52:05,929 --> 00:52:08,929 nice thing to do today it used to be 968 00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:10,880 lovely when we went out four cups of 969 00:52:08,929 --> 00:52:12,969 coffee into the pool and things didn't 970 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:18,829 no it's great 971 00:52:12,969 --> 00:52:23,359 yeah yeah it was great what are you 972 00:52:18,829 --> 00:52:33,289 watching on TV me what's this program a 973 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:34,820 bit you ble is it a music program Jeff 974 00:52:33,289 --> 00:52:37,369 and I and the boys had moved to 975 00:52:34,820 --> 00:52:39,580 Wellington from Sydney to be closer to 976 00:52:37,369 --> 00:52:39,579 family 977 00:52:41,820 --> 00:52:50,820 why are you out a bit because I think 978 00:52:47,409 --> 00:52:58,569 basically I really should be with 979 00:52:50,820 --> 00:53:07,900 another group of people should I call 980 00:52:58,570 --> 00:53:13,630 you to everyone else's watch me you like 981 00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:18,099 me out here it's the most beautiful day 982 00:53:13,630 --> 00:53:22,090 I think it was seen to make ourselves 983 00:53:18,099 --> 00:53:26,230 decent then one night I was saying good 984 00:53:22,090 --> 00:53:28,450 night to mom I stared in her eyes and 985 00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:33,360 she stared back at me with eyes filled 986 00:53:28,449 --> 00:53:38,549 with love I soaked it up we've connected 987 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,550 she blinked and told me she hated me I 988 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:47,280 guess it is sad for us for our 989 00:53:41,889 --> 00:53:47,279 relationship in a way cuz it's um 990 00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:55,750 that's very little to her because she 991 00:53:51,369 --> 00:54:01,500 can't react emotionally to me like she 992 00:53:55,750 --> 00:54:01,500 used to physically like she used to 993 00:54:02,699 --> 00:54:07,029 symptomatically from the cancer point of 994 00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:09,940 view I don't think there's been much of 995 00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:20,950 a change but certainly from Huntington's 996 00:54:09,940 --> 00:54:23,400 she has deteriorated that's a big job 997 00:54:20,949 --> 00:54:23,399 isn't it 998 00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:36,190 horrible don't worry hey let's just 999 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:42,159 worry about having breakfast 1000 00:54:36,190 --> 00:54:47,820 watchin here we go that's a met guys huh 1001 00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:47,819 yeah hey hi 1002 00:54:51,998 --> 00:55:14,978 thank you how you doing today really 1003 00:54:58,099 --> 00:55:17,209 awful and what do you like to the show 1004 00:55:14,978 --> 00:55:19,538 do you like the carries giving you a 1005 00:55:17,208 --> 00:55:19,538 shower 1006 00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:47,369 why can you tell me what you think mom 1007 00:55:42,449 --> 00:55:51,058 is thinking you mean can I look at her 1008 00:55:47,369 --> 00:56:05,910 and tell tell what she's thinking it's a 1009 00:55:51,059 --> 00:56:13,170 pretty big vacuum there and how old are 1010 00:56:05,909 --> 00:56:15,498 you 20 and then you married yes are you 1011 00:56:13,170 --> 00:56:15,499 married 1012 00:56:17,460 --> 00:56:24,750 you constantly do what you can to keep 1013 00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:27,450 her in the best of health to keep her 1014 00:56:24,750 --> 00:56:48,858 from pain 1015 00:56:27,449 --> 00:56:48,858 [Music] 1016 00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:56,298 I don't know where it goes from here see 1017 00:56:53,358 --> 00:56:59,528 this things like eating you still eat 1018 00:56:56,298 --> 00:56:59,528 him 1 2 3 1019 00:57:06,608 --> 00:57:10,088 where did it hurt 1020 00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:19,789 further down the track it depends I mean 1021 00:57:16,070 --> 00:57:22,100 you might find that the cancer leaves it 1022 00:57:19,789 --> 00:57:26,900 behind don't have to worry about that 1023 00:57:22,099 --> 00:57:29,719 sort of thing but she is at times in a 1024 00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:32,130 lot of pain and I can only assume that's 1025 00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:48,049 from the cancer 1026 00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:48,050 [Music] 1027 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,170 since coming to live in New Zealand I've 1028 00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:57,240 been I've found me confronted by mum 1029 00:57:55,170 --> 00:57:59,809 situation and really really honestly 1030 00:57:57,239 --> 00:58:02,809 been thinking she'd be better off not 1031 00:57:59,809 --> 00:58:02,809 living 1032 00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:07,949 and I just kept anticipating that she'd 1033 00:58:05,429 --> 00:58:09,919 be kind of dying at some point for the 1034 00:58:07,949 --> 00:58:12,349 cats are all from the hunting tips 1035 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,200 but having spoken to Jeanette it seems 1036 00:58:12,349 --> 00:58:17,389 that people can go on for for years and 1037 00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:18,919 years in the state that mums in maybe 1038 00:58:17,389 --> 00:58:21,409 mum being able to see her grandchildren 1039 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,030 play on the lawn is the equivalent of 1040 00:58:21,409 --> 00:58:26,119 doing something incredibly marvelous 1041 00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:27,340 been away what she's doing it's kind of 1042 00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:30,859 what Buddhist monks achieve 1043 00:58:27,340 --> 00:58:34,090 thoughtlessness they they call it 1044 00:58:30,860 --> 00:58:34,090 mindfulness they doing 1045 00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:41,858 as a youngster I always believed that 1046 00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:43,449 mature would come along form um I guess 1047 00:58:41,858 --> 00:58:46,150 then I was hopeful that a cure would 1048 00:58:43,449 --> 00:58:48,789 come along that would that would fix me 1049 00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:52,240 the genes been around to twenty years 1050 00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:53,889 and initially people thought there was 1051 00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:59,858 going to be a cure the next year or the 1052 00:58:53,889 --> 00:59:01,779 year after I think I didn't know what to 1053 00:58:59,858 --> 00:59:03,849 believe about the likelihood of a cure 1054 00:59:01,780 --> 00:59:06,609 the dimi bond trials had been 1055 00:59:03,849 --> 00:59:09,730 inconclusive I went to find out for 1056 00:59:06,608 --> 00:59:27,369 myself I got to meet a hero of mine the 1057 00:59:09,730 --> 00:59:29,199 scientific legend Michael Hayden I've 1058 00:59:27,369 --> 00:59:32,369 got good news or bad news for you you 1059 00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:34,779 might have more time than you expect so 1060 00:59:32,369 --> 00:59:39,309 you know you might have more time or 1061 00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:42,490 compos mentis I suspect we're gonna find 1062 00:59:39,309 --> 00:59:44,108 ways to modify our reality in one form 1063 00:59:42,489 --> 00:59:44,379 or another who knows what it's gonna 1064 00:59:44,108 --> 00:59:46,659 take 1065 00:59:44,380 --> 00:59:47,599 and the key thing I think we should 1066 00:59:46,659 --> 00:59:49,848 recognize there 1067 00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:51,489 and I think there's a light at the end 1068 00:59:49,849 --> 00:59:54,259 of this time was this your mum or dad 1069 00:59:51,489 --> 00:59:55,789 mom so your disease is going to be 1070 00:59:54,259 --> 00:59:57,829 different tomorrow there was a time that 1071 00:59:55,789 --> 00:59:59,809 polio was a fatal illness or that AIDS 1072 00:59:57,829 --> 01:00:02,210 we entered all these diseases have been 1073 00:59:59,809 --> 01:00:03,979 overcome Huntington's is different but 1074 01:00:02,210 --> 01:00:05,749 we're making massive inroads and no 1075 01:00:03,978 --> 01:00:09,108 communities come together in ways that 1076 01:00:05,748 --> 01:00:10,788 are incredible so I'm quite hopeful I'm 1077 01:00:09,108 --> 01:00:13,159 hopeful not that we'll cure this disease 1078 01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:16,720 but that we'll have a way to change the 1079 01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:18,739 course of this illness in your lifetime 1080 01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:20,419 scientists around the world have now 1081 01:00:18,739 --> 01:00:23,119 come together in a community that's 1082 01:00:20,420 --> 01:00:25,430 really profound sharing cooperating 1083 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:28,068 collaborating in ways unprecedented 1084 01:00:25,429 --> 01:00:29,719 amongst scientists I think that 1085 01:00:28,068 --> 01:00:34,728 Huntington's disease is sometimes 1086 01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:36,709 regarded as a as kind of a model disease 1087 01:00:34,728 --> 01:00:38,689 for perhaps both Alzheimer's and 1088 01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:40,039 Parkinson's the level of cells there's a 1089 01:00:38,690 --> 01:00:41,539 lot of commonalities between what's 1090 01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:43,099 going wrong in a Huntington's brain and 1091 01:00:41,539 --> 01:00:45,650 what might be going wrong in an 1092 01:00:43,099 --> 01:00:48,619 Alzheimer's or Parkinson's brain hunting 1093 01:00:45,650 --> 01:00:50,588 this is uniquely special because of the 1094 01:00:48,619 --> 01:00:53,450 fact that you can genetically predict it 1095 01:00:50,588 --> 01:00:55,849 before people have the disease so 1096 01:00:53,449 --> 01:00:58,968 Huntington's is is is uniquely 1097 01:00:55,849 --> 01:01:02,088 positioned to offer the testing ground 1098 01:00:58,969 --> 01:01:05,420 for therapies that could have influence 1099 01:01:02,088 --> 01:01:08,088 for all sorts of diseases my brother 1100 01:01:05,420 --> 01:01:10,460 Nick has had his brain scanned 2 or 3 1101 01:01:08,088 --> 01:01:12,498 times a year for the past five years as 1102 01:01:10,460 --> 01:01:15,469 part of the effort to track disease 1103 01:01:12,498 --> 01:01:17,209 progression but as I just get the email 1104 01:01:15,469 --> 01:01:19,969 Nick will you come and I'm doing it you 1105 01:01:17,210 --> 01:01:22,099 just see the words HD scan research I 1106 01:01:19,969 --> 01:01:25,579 don't even read them now to apply yes 1107 01:01:22,099 --> 01:01:28,099 what dates today was an MRI for 90 1108 01:01:25,579 --> 01:01:30,739 minutes and then a PET scan as well in 1109 01:01:28,099 --> 01:01:32,568 the afternoon so and then so and then 1110 01:01:30,739 --> 01:01:35,239 they wanted to do more tests so we did 1111 01:01:32,568 --> 01:01:38,349 more we did more cognition tests the 1112 01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:40,369 track HD scans and researchers and 1113 01:01:38,349 --> 01:01:42,489 researching and checkups was all about 1114 01:01:40,369 --> 01:01:47,180 trying to see changes in the brain that 1115 01:01:42,489 --> 01:01:49,429 they think are happening 10 or 15 years 1116 01:01:47,179 --> 01:01:51,469 before you become outwardly symptomatic 1117 01:01:49,429 --> 01:01:53,808 there has been profound progress in 1118 01:01:51,469 --> 01:01:56,088 terms of understanding mechanisms we 1119 01:01:53,809 --> 01:01:58,400 understand what are some of the causes 1120 01:01:56,088 --> 01:01:59,349 of the neuronal loss the neuronal injury 1121 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,900 that occurs in 1122 01:01:59,349 --> 01:02:04,059 disease we use a fruit fly model we can 1123 01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:06,130 insert the human gene into the fruit fly 1124 01:02:04,059 --> 01:02:08,799 and this allows us to look at genetic 1125 01:02:06,130 --> 01:02:10,570 modifiers so we can understand how these 1126 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,180 genes might be normally trying to 1127 01:02:10,570 --> 01:02:14,740 protect the cells from death and then 1128 01:02:13,179 --> 01:02:16,389 hopefully if we can find these genes 1129 01:02:14,739 --> 01:02:18,459 that are helpful we might be able to 1130 01:02:16,389 --> 01:02:20,829 boost them for example this is a concept 1131 01:02:18,460 --> 01:02:22,389 that I call environment medics these 1132 01:02:20,829 --> 01:02:24,279 would be drugs which mimic or enhance 1133 01:02:22,389 --> 01:02:26,799 the beneficial effects of this 1134 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,960 environmental stimulation we have 1135 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,120 generated a transgenic sheep model of 1136 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:34,929 Huntington disease we're now looking to 1137 01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:38,109 see if we can inject into the brain and 1138 01:02:34,929 --> 01:02:41,919 antisense or an interference paradigm 1139 01:02:38,110 --> 01:02:43,090 which could turn the gene down or turn 1140 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,329 that gene off 1141 01:02:43,090 --> 01:02:49,660 I trust the science you know it's not a 1142 01:02:46,329 --> 01:02:50,949 simple process and it takes time so you 1143 01:02:49,659 --> 01:02:52,750 know that's the thing that people don't 1144 01:02:50,949 --> 01:02:55,989 really want to hear every step forward 1145 01:02:52,750 --> 01:02:57,550 seems to be them discovering that HTT is 1146 01:02:55,989 --> 01:02:59,829 far more complicated than they thought 1147 01:02:57,550 --> 01:03:01,090 yes if you summarize the last four or 1148 01:02:59,829 --> 01:03:04,299 five years that's pretty much been it 1149 01:03:01,090 --> 01:03:06,730 we're on the brink of a of a major sea 1150 01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:08,019 change in this fall sorts of reasons the 1151 01:03:06,730 --> 01:03:09,309 best stuff that's gonna happen which is 1152 01:03:08,019 --> 01:03:10,809 going to which is really gonna bring 1153 01:03:09,309 --> 01:03:12,849 people out of the shadows is the kind of 1154 01:03:10,809 --> 01:03:14,259 critical chance they're gonna say okay 1155 01:03:12,849 --> 01:03:16,569 if it's actually something out there 1156 01:03:14,260 --> 01:03:19,090 that can make a difference then I've got 1157 01:03:16,570 --> 01:03:23,200 it sooner rather than later one of these 1158 01:03:19,090 --> 01:03:26,140 clinical trials will show a intervention 1159 01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:28,000 that significantly slows down this 1160 01:03:26,139 --> 01:03:29,589 disease and hopefully eventually stops 1161 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,409 the disease in its tracks this is a 1162 01:03:29,590 --> 01:03:33,880 pretty nasty disease that's complicated 1163 01:03:32,409 --> 01:03:35,619 and I think what's quite you're gonna 1164 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,269 see is that there's gonna be a lot of 1165 01:03:35,619 --> 01:03:38,859 drugs for Huntington's disease and so 1166 01:03:37,269 --> 01:03:40,630 you might have a drug that you know is 1167 01:03:38,860 --> 01:03:42,430 for the brain and you might have a drug 1168 01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:42,890 for the muscle deterioration and you may 1169 01:03:42,429 --> 01:03:45,078 have a drug 1170 01:03:42,889 --> 01:03:47,750 for depression you'll be treated when 1171 01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:49,430 you are still well but not yet ill but 1172 01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:51,409 still carry the mutation and others 1173 01:03:49,429 --> 01:03:54,169 you'd be so-called pre-symptomatic I've 1174 01:03:51,409 --> 01:03:56,509 always said that HD is the most curable 1175 01:03:54,170 --> 01:03:58,630 incurable brain disease I would say that 1176 01:03:56,510 --> 01:04:02,210 if there is ever a time to be hopeful 1177 01:03:58,630 --> 01:04:04,160 for the future this is it I think there 1178 01:04:02,210 --> 01:04:07,400 is a great deal of hope there's a lot of 1179 01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:11,538 work being done but it's unlikely to be 1180 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:14,389 fast science takes a long time I think 1181 01:04:11,539 --> 01:04:16,220 people with Huntington's are coping 1182 01:04:14,389 --> 01:04:18,798 really well and I think we do really 1183 01:04:16,219 --> 01:04:20,538 well here with the sort of support and 1184 01:04:18,798 --> 01:04:23,028 the and the things that we can offer 1185 01:04:20,539 --> 01:04:23,778 them as for me I'm scared to be 1186 01:04:23,028 --> 01:04:26,539 optimistic 1187 01:04:23,778 --> 01:04:29,329 I watched my mum wait for 20 years for a 1188 01:04:26,539 --> 01:04:31,849 treatment and I have no idea where this 1189 01:04:29,329 --> 01:04:33,559 leaves my brothers in me so I'm slowly 1190 01:04:31,849 --> 01:04:35,660 I've been off running for about four 1191 01:04:33,559 --> 01:04:38,420 months back running now just started 1192 01:04:35,659 --> 01:04:40,429 about two weeks ago so yeah probably 1193 01:04:38,420 --> 01:04:42,619 here the exercise just has to come first 1194 01:04:40,429 --> 01:04:44,569 doesn't it so it's the only thing we've 1195 01:04:42,619 --> 01:04:50,539 got 1196 01:04:44,570 --> 01:04:50,539 [Music] 1197 01:04:54,170 --> 01:05:05,320 [Music] 1198 01:05:12,099 --> 01:05:19,420 no we're being married 50 years in a 1199 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,920 couple of months time sure I threaten no 1200 01:05:19,420 --> 01:05:23,990 nice thing see 1201 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:26,690 she went out in the mouth for a medicine 1202 01:05:23,989 --> 01:05:30,489 or something well you're off to the rest 1203 01:05:26,690 --> 01:05:30,490 time but I don't mean it 1204 01:05:31,780 --> 01:05:46,030 [Music] 1205 01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:55,800 I can see that dad doesn't want to let 1206 01:05:51,929 --> 01:05:58,049 mom go he wants to keep her here he's 1207 01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:01,140 not religious so here is the only place 1208 01:05:58,050 --> 01:06:19,519 there is so he wants to keep her with 1209 01:06:01,139 --> 01:06:19,519 him as long as he can give her a chance 1210 01:06:49,940 --> 01:06:53,990 good fantastic 1211 01:06:56,369 --> 01:07:29,019 fantastic keep going keep going oh these 1212 01:07:01,719 --> 01:07:30,849 are these the start again I live with 1213 01:07:29,019 --> 01:07:33,009 the knowledge that my beautiful brothers 1214 01:07:30,849 --> 01:07:35,170 will most likely lose their minds and 1215 01:07:33,010 --> 01:07:37,660 die slowly trapped an unresponsive 1216 01:07:35,170 --> 01:07:40,269 body's unless they choose another way 1217 01:07:37,659 --> 01:07:43,210 out and Jeff and my sons will most 1218 01:07:40,269 --> 01:07:45,670 likely have to watch me do the same but 1219 01:07:43,210 --> 01:07:47,619 despite all this somehow on this journey 1220 01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:50,170 I've discovered that I'm stronger than I 1221 01:07:47,619 --> 01:07:52,750 thought I've looked the enemy directly 1222 01:07:50,170 --> 01:07:55,809 in its yellow eyes and told it to beware 1223 01:07:52,750 --> 01:07:59,079 if it wants to take us all on then fine 1224 01:07:55,809 --> 01:08:01,809 good luck to it I know for sure it still 1225 01:07:59,079 --> 01:08:04,529 hasn't seen the full strength of my 1226 01:08:01,809 --> 01:08:25,899 family 1227 01:08:04,530 --> 01:08:31,060 [Music] 1228 01:08:25,899 --> 01:08:33,259 there's a secret that I would never 1229 01:08:31,060 --> 01:08:34,660 whispered never to 1230 01:08:33,260 --> 01:08:43,659 [Music] 1231 01:08:34,659 --> 01:08:47,189 to secret that is written never touched 1232 01:08:43,659 --> 01:08:47,189 by light of B 1233 01:08:48,130 --> 01:08:51,130 extremists 1234 01:08:51,380 --> 01:08:55,359 gift for you and given 1235 01:08:57,260 --> 01:09:17,429 [Music] 1236 01:09:12,889 --> 01:09:21,579 well my face is wet today 1237 01:09:17,429 --> 01:09:25,270 not tears but oceans will 1238 01:09:21,579 --> 01:09:30,198 I am bringing you a gift from 1239 01:09:25,270 --> 01:09:30,199 [Music] 1240 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,700 you 1241 01:09:38,759 --> 01:09:40,819 you 92737

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