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[AMBULANCE SIREN WAILING]
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SARAY STANCIC: A code blue
is a medical emergency.
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It's used in hospitals
and institutions
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to alert when a patient
is in cardiopulmonary arrest.
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A team
of healthcare professionals
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rushes to
the patient's location
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to administer
resuscitative efforts
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to revive them.
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Today in many ways,
it's our society
and healthcare industries
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that need to be brought
back to life.
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They need to be ushered
into a new era of awareness,
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one that prioritizes
prevention and healthcare
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over sick care.
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Until then we're living a societal code blue epidemic.
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Health care costs
in this country
$2.9 trillion per year,
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and here's the scariest thing,
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chronic illness accounts
for 86 percent of that money.
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Fifty percent of Americans
live with at least
one chronic disease.
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Fifty percent.
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Two thirds of Americans
are obese or overweight.
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Obesity is fueling
chronic illness.
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I'm talking about diabetes,
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cardiovascular disease,
heart attacks,
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stroke, Alzheimer's disease.
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We're really facing an epidemic,
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really a crisis when it comes
to a chronic disease.
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Thirty percent
of American adults
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have either type 2 diabetes
or pre-diabetes.
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Autoimmune disease rates
are skyrocketing.
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Heart disease is
the No. 1 cause of death.
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What we're doing now
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is largely treating symptoms
of this epidemic.
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Rarely are we getting
to the root cause of illness.
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STEVEN ADELMAN:
I think the big problem
in health care,
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we don't think
about behavior change
at the right time.
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We think about it
when it's too late.
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What if we spent
as much time and energy
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thinking about
what makes people healthy
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as we do thinking
about illness?
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We are struggling as a field.
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We all drank medical Kool-Aid.
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Consumers have, doctors have.
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You have a symptom,
you take a drug.
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MICHELLE MCMACKEN:
What I really think we need
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is a complete paradigm shift.
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Well, lifestyle medicine
is, I think,
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the most exciting trend
in medicine today.
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ANA NEGRON:
Seventy to eighty percent
of our chronic illnesses
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really can be arrested
and reversed.
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Change our diets,
change our approach,
start exercising.
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Every student that comes
across lifestyle medicine,
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they get so motivated.
They're like,
"This is what I want to do."
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MAN 2:
These simple changes can make
such a powerful difference.
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NEAL BARNARD:
I'm hearing from a lot more
medical students who say,
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"We want to learn about this."
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CALDWELL ESSELSTYN:
Medicine is at the cusp
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of what is truly
a seismic revolution in health.
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Imagine if the news
were to break tomorrow.
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There's a new drug available,
just approved by the FDA.
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It's available
in bountiful supply.
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It is shockingly inexpensive,
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stunningly free
of side effects,
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safe enough for children
and octogenarians alike.
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And taken once daily
for the rest of your life
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will reduce your risk
of ever getting
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any major chronic disease
by 80 percent.
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Who would not want
a prescription for this drug?
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Lifestyle is exactly
that medicine
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and all too few are taking it.
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[HEART RATE MONITOR FLATLINING]
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[SERENE MUSIC PLAYING]
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STANCIC: I'm sort of
at this stage in my life
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that I don't feel like
I have to prove anything
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to myself or to anyone else.
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I just do this
because I love it,
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and I think it's amazing
that I can do it.
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And the fact that I can climb
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and make my way
over these big boulders
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and not fall,
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I feel accomplished
when I get to that summit.
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Ten, fifteen years ago,
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going on a hike was something
that was so foreign
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and so likely to be impossible.
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And now, it's something
that I enjoy.
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I love being outdoors.
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Uh, fresh air, the sunlight,
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and it just feeds my soul.
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My name is Dr. Saray Stancic.
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Back in 1995,
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the entire course of my life
changed in an instant
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when I went from doctor
to patient.
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For years, I struggled.
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Desperately trying to manage
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an unpredictable
and disabling diagnosis.
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Through my suffering
as a patient,
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I learned invaluable lessons
that fundamentally changed
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my perspective
as a practicing physician.
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I began my career in the 1990s
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as an infectious
disease specialist,
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determined to combat
the HIV epidemic.
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But today,
my professional focus
is elsewhere.
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I'm eager to bring change
to our often misguided
healthcare system
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and antiquated
medical education model,
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which places little
to no emphasis
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on what we know today
could save countless lives.
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I was born in Cuba,
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but my family immigrated
to the United States
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when I was only
five months old.
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My parents instilled in us
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that they had made the sacrificeto come to this country,
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and that we were gonna make
something of ourselves.
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For me, it was easy.
I wanted to be a doctor.
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I didn't know any physicians.
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I guess I had seen doctors
on TV,
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and they looked
pretty impressive and cool.
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My first experience
with a real physician
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was when my grandmother
was diagnosed with cancer.
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When she passed,
I was nine years old.
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But going to the hospital
and seeing physicians
caring for her
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solidified that for me that
"I'm gonna become a doctor."
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When I was accepted
at New Jersey Medical School,
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it was the happiest day
of my life.
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So now, I'm in my third year
of my residency,
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which is the last year.
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I'd just turned 28.
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I had just met Ralph in August.
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RALPH:
We were residents together.
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A mutual friend introduced us,
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and, um,
we hit it off immediately.
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STANCIC:
Then comes October 11, 1995.
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I'm on call and it was
a really crazy, busy night.
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There wasn't a break,
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and I remember feeling
really, really tired
as the night progressed.
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I remember getting
to the call room,
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literally almost crawling
to the bed,
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and I was gone.
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[PAGER BEEPING]
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Next thing I know
my pager went off.
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When I tried to get up,
I couldn't feel my legs.
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Then I stepped down to get help
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and it suddenly felt like
I was stepping on hot coals.
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I'm brought
to the Emergency Room,
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and they said,
"We need to do an MRI
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"to see what's going on."
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They tell you, "Don't move,"
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and I'm in there
for like two hours.
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[MRI MACHINE WHIRRING LOUDLY]
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And all I hear is
the terrible sounds
and the banging,
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and then I start
to feel this pain,
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something like charley horse
on steroids,
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and I'm terrified.
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They keep asking me,
"Are you okay? Are you okay?"
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And I keep saying, "Yes,"
and I'm thinking, "No."
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And then as I'm wheeling out,
I hear the Radiology
attending say,
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"Go get the medical students.
Go get the interns.
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"This is a classic case of MS."
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And, um...
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Like the floor fell out
from under me.
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You know, it was just like
everything changed overnight.
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RALPH:
It was pretty frightening,
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because we had only been dating for a couple months,
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but I was fairly certain
that this was a woman
I was going to spend
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[GULPS]
the rest of my life with.
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I knew it was
an autoimmune disease,
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but the things
that were important to me
at that moment,
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I really had no idea.
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When the neurologist came,
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I remember him
telling me that, uh,
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"Multiple sclerosis
is a chronic illness,
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"and you just have to learn
[SMACKS LIPS] to live with it."
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DENNIS BOURDETTE:
Multiple sclerosis
is a disease that affects
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the brain, the spinal cord,
and the nerves
to the back of the eye.
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It's classified
as an autoimmune disease.
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In the early stages
in the immune system,
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it is episodically attacking
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focal areas of the central nervous system.
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A normal, healthy immune system
is supposed to fight off
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foreign invaders like bacteria
or a virus, pathogens.
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In MS, it attacks myelin,
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the fatty sheath that protects the spinal cord and nerves.
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The consequence of that
is the development
of these neurological issues,
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and the progression
of the illness would be
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becoming dependent,
for example,
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on wheelchair
or on other things.
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It affects your bladder,
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and it can cause optic neuritis even blindness.
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I knew there was
no cure for MS.
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The best I could hope for
was to slow its progression.
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My doctors predicted
I'd likely be in a wheelchair
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within 20 years.
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I can tell you those are
difficult words to hear
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when you're 28 years old.
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RALPH: The imaging studies
showed a great burden
of disease,
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so it was never a thought
that she wasn't going to be
on medication.
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The first time I had
to inject her, it was...
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[SMACKS LIPS] It was...
It was upsetting.
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Here I was having
to inflict pain on her,
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and this is going to be
her life moving forward.
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These nightly injections,
which gave her
flu-like symptoms,
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which lead to other medications to counteract
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the side effects
of the medication
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that she was on for the MS.
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STANCIC: By the time
I was in my early 30s,
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I was taking about 12 drugs.
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I had no quality of life.
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And then, one day I was sitting
in my office
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and, um, somebody dropped off
a stack of mail,
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and there was a journal,
and on the cover
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it said, "Multiple Sclerosis
and Blueberries."
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And I said,
"What could that be?"
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There was a study
that looked at MS patients,
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and they fed half of them
a diet rich in blueberries.
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And the patients who were eatingthis diet rich in blueberries
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reported that they felt
a little bit better.
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Now, it wasn't
a great scientific study,
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but what it did, [SNAPS FINGERS]it was like that a-ha moment.
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Like "Wow! Diet and disease?
Could there be a connection."
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I thought back
to all that education
that I had had.
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Ten years, a decade of my life
dedicated to medical education,
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and I couldn't think
of one example
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in which any
of my professors, mentors
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ever discussed the connection
between diet and disease.
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I wanted to look into it myself and do a search,
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and I put in words like
"Multiple sclerosis and diet,
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"chronic disease and diet,"
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and what I found
was extraordinary.
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This idea of lifestyle medicine,it wasn't just powerful for me,
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I knew that this was powerful
for all of us.
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And it was a message
that I wanted to share
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with as many as possible,
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so I started to write articles, and I started to do public speaking
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wherever anybody
would invite me.
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Such a great pleasure
to be here
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to speak on a topic that
I'm immensely passionate about.
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I've been practicing medicine
for 22 years.
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Today, I practice
lifestyle medicine.
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Has anyone ever heard of that?
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It's a relatively new field
in medicine.
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Lifestyle medicine's focus is to educate and empower patients
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on the importance
of optimal nutrition,
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a primarily plant-based diet,
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physical activity,
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stress management,
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affective sleep hygiene,
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the avoidance of tobacco,
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the reduction or near elimination of alcohol,
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and the importance
of social interconnectedness.
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DAVID KATZ: The evidence
is absolutely overwhelming.
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I don't think there's anything
more consistently reported
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in high-quality,
peer-reviewed journals,
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than the potential of lifestyle to improve the quality of life
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for millions upon millions
around the globe.
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[CARS HONKING]
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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One of the most powerful
pieces of evidence,
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2009, Earl Ford and colleagues
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studied 23,000 adults in and around Potsdam, Germany,
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and asked them
about four factors.
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They asked about weight.
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They asked,
"Do you smoke? Yes or no?
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"Are you physically active?
Yes or no?
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"Do you eat well? Yes or no?"
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And their definition
of eating well was so simple.
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It was habitual intake
of vegetables,
fruits and whole grains.
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So, they compared
the people who said,
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"I don't smoke, I eat well,
I'm active, my weight is fine,"
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to people who said, "I smoke,
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"eat badly, don't exercise,and my weight's out of control."
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And these people
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had an almost 80 percent
lesser rate of developing
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any major chronic disease.
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Is he being a wise guy?
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STANCIC: At some point,
I had read enough.
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And in 2003,
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I adopted a whole food,
plant-based diet,
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because the evidence suggested
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that this was the ideal diet
for health maintenance.
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I began to exercise.
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Back in the 1990swhen you were diagnosed with MS,
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you were told don't exercise.
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MS patients struggle
with fatigue.
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You were told
to conserve your energy.
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So for eight years,
I didn't exercise.
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I was very deconditioned.
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I could not get
onto a stationary bike
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without
my husband's assistance.
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And the first time,
I could do a minute,
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and I was in a lot of pain.
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But the next day, I went back.
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It didn't happen in a week,and it didn't happen in a month,
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it happened over time
but I started to feel better.
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I came off
all of those medications.
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And on May 2, 2010,
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I crossed the finish line
at the New Jersey Marathon.
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[AUDIENCE CHEERS]
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-WOMAN 1: That's amazing.
-WOMAN 2: That's incredible.
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And you still have MS?
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STANCIC: I still have MS
and you know what?
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If I stop doing all the things
that I do every single day,
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I would become
symptomatic again.
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There's tremendous power
in our choices.
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That's the message
I wanted to get
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to all students.
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And that's a message
that we need to get
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to our communities,
to our patients.
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I know firsthand
what lifestyle changes can do
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for someone
with chronic illness.
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So, I've decided to embark on my most ambitious trek yet.
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Now, nearly two decades
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after personally adopting
this lifestyle approach,
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I'm setting out
across the United States
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to connect some dots.
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From the most compelling
science-based evidence
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to the top practices
around the country,
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where physicians
are helping their patients
make lifestyle changes,
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I wanted to hear their struggles and successes.
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But most importantly,
I wanted to uncover why
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the field of medicine
fails to emphasize
prevention and lifestyle
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despite the evidence
that clearly supports
its effectiveness.
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The first stop on my journey
is here, Ithaca, New York.
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To revisit a 1980 study
that remains
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one of the touchstones
of lifestyle medicine today.
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Dr T. Colin Campbell's
China Study.
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T. COLIN CAMPBELL: 1980, I decided to go to China
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and see what we could learn.
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This is the real China Study.
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We went into their homes
and measured
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exactly what they ate
over a three-day period.
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This is a total
of 6,500 families,
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130 villages,
65 counties across China.
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We collected blood samples
and urine samples.
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We had all this information
on a total 367,
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I called them,
"Items of information,"
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which included about four dozendifferent kinds of disease rates
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of different cancers,
heart disease,
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diabetes,
all this kind of stuff.
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STANCIC: Describe to me the dietthat you were using.
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CAMPBELL:
Yeah, rice, vegetables.
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Lots of different kinds
of vegetables, by the way.
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It's what
they were producing locally.
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Overall, their consumption
of animal protein
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in China was only
one-tenth an average
of what we have here.
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A huge difference.
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And of course, heart disease
is almost nonexistent,
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in some places in China.
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There's one county,
there were something like
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265,000 successive
death certificates.
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Not one was heart disease.
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It seemed very clear
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that our Western diet
was too rich in animal foods.
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STANCIC: This idea
that animal foods
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correlate with heart disease
in particular
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has actually been field tested.
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In the 1960s,
North Karelia, Finland,
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had the world's highest rate
of heart disease deaths.
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The government decided
to do something about it.
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KATZ: It was
an intervention called
the North Karelia Project,
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beginning nearly
five decades ago
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with a focus
on preventing smoking,
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reducing intake
of saturated fat,
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and shifting from animal foods
like meat and processed dairy
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to more vegetables, fruits,
whole grains, beans, lentils,
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nuts, seeds, fish and seafood.
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And since the initiation
of the North Karelia project,
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an 82 percent reduction
in coronary disease deaths,
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and a ten-year
average addition
to life expectancy.
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You show me anything
in all of medicine
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that has ever achieved
anything remotely like that,
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that has ever extended
life expectancy routinely
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for an entire population
by ten years.
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There is nothing.
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RON WEISS:
At the turn of the century,
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the average American lived
until they're 50 years old.
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The government kept statistics.
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If you looked at what people
were dying of,
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it was basically
respiratory illnesses
like pneumonia,
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tuberculosis,
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and the waterborne diseases
like cholera and dysentery.
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And then, we got antibiotics.
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And so all of a sudden,
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we saw people living beyond 50.
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But that's when food
causes the problem.
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DEAN ORNISH:
Every decade since 1950,
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we've been eating more fat,
more cholesterol,
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more meat, more sugar,
and more calories.
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So not surprisingly,
we're fatter,
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because we're eating
too much of everything.
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When I was in medical school,
I would walk in the hospital.
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The gift shop sold cigarettes.
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I bought my Merit menthols,
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and my head of surgery
would buy Marlboros,
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and we would light up
in the hallway,
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walking down
the doctor's lounge.
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And when you got in there,
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it was so smoky
you could barely cut it
with a knife.
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We knew that cigarettes
cause cancer,
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but we also knew
that it takes time
to get cancer.
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And if I quit, I'll be okay.
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At some point,
we realized now is the time
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We gotta quit,
and we've gotta get
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the cigarettes
out of the gift shop,
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in fact get them out
of the whole hospital.
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This was a big decision.
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Of course,
after we made that decision
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within two weeks everybody knew
it was the right thing.
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But that's where we are
with food.
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We know we got an issue.
We know we've got to change.
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STANCIC: When I started
to learn about the importance
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of nutrition and lifestyle,
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I remember talking
to colleagues that were
in practice with me
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and sharing this idea,
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and I didn't get much support
in that arena.
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I started to think "Gosh,
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"I can't be the only person
who's thinking this way."
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So, I started to look
for other people.
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That's when I found
the American College
of Lifestyle Medicine,
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and I was like
"Wow, this is home for me.
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"These are my people."
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There is a national conference that occurs once a year,
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and it brings together
like-minded physicians
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and health professionals.
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You make connections,
you meet people
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who understand
this is important.
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Sixty-five percent of our food
is so highly processed,
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it either...
It's not even food.
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STANCIC: When I came here,
and I sat in a room full
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of other physicians
who understood this,
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it was really empowering.
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JAMES: This can be applied
in the day-to-day
clinical setting.
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STANCIC: I was elated,
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and I opened my practice
a month after I got back
from that.
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I opened this practice in 2012,
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and it was really very scary
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because I had no patients,
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and no one really knew
what lifestyle medicine was.
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I think a lot of my friends
and family members thought
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I had lost my mind.
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Uh, I just knew it was
the right thing for me.
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There's no blueprint for this.
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I've put this together in many ways also as a patient.
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Like what would I want
as a patient
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when I go see a physician?
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Take a nice
deep breath, Mark.
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With this idea
of lifestyle medicine
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when you're asking patients
to change behaviors,
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things that they've been doing for all their lives,
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there has to be that trust
between the patient
and the doctor.
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So, my first visit
is two hours.
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I'm going to do
a really thorough history.
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We're going to do
a physical exam,
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and then we're going
to do education.
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-And your your throat is, um...
-MARK: That's better.
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-It's better.
-Great. Vastly improved.
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When did you finish
the Prednisone?
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I think two days
after Philadelphia.
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So, you've been doing
really well with your food.
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Hummus, roasted red pepper,
lettuce.
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In general, you're making
very, very good choices.
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Mark came to see me
in September of last year,
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and he told me
that he had been struggling
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with his weight
for many, many years,
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and that he was
a poorly-controlled diabetic,
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and that he was sick
of feeling sick.
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Jack last night brought
over Cuban pork chop for dad.
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-A Cuban pork chop?
-A Cuban pork chop.
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Did he do that
because he knows I'm Cuban?
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[LAUGHS] No, no, no, he didn't.
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I went and got a big salad.
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One day at a time,
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-one decision at a time.
-Right.
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-Okay?
-Yeah, that'll work.
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STANCIC: People will ask me
is there a special diet
for diabetes?
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Is there a special diet for MS,
and there isn't.
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It's one diet for all of us.
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We should all be eating a diet
that is primarily plants.
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SUSAN LEVIN:
I hear all the time.
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It's like "Well, there's no
one diet for every body."
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It's like,
"Actually, there is."
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MICHAEL GREGER: There is a remarkable consensus in the scientific literature
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going back decades
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suggests that
the healthiest diet is one
491
00:24:41,262 --> 00:24:43,438
that minimize the intake
of meat, eggs, dairy and junk,
492
00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:48,574
and maximize the intake
of fruits, vegetables,
whole grains, legumes.
493
00:24:48,617 --> 00:24:50,401
Basically, real food
that grows out of the ground,
494
00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:52,491
these are healthiest choices.
495
00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:57,670
I used to joke with my friends
496
00:24:57,713 --> 00:24:59,541
that there are two types
of cardiologists,
497
00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:01,891
vegans and those
who haven't read the data.
498
00:25:06,592 --> 00:25:09,943
The science points
toward eating
more plant-based nutrition.
499
00:25:11,858 --> 00:25:14,730
Vegan is the term
that most people use,
500
00:25:14,774 --> 00:25:17,167
but if you're eating
a lot of refined sugar,
501
00:25:17,211 --> 00:25:19,082
a lot of processed grains,
502
00:25:19,126 --> 00:25:22,521
you may be a vegan, but you're not a healthy vegan.
503
00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:25,741
And so, you'll see people
who are struggling
with their weight.
504
00:25:25,785 --> 00:25:27,569
We really have
to be very careful
505
00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:29,832
about our food selections.
506
00:25:29,876 --> 00:25:32,139
STANCIC:
I'm not here to tell you,
you need to be a vegan,
507
00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:34,141
but I do believe
that you need to cut down
508
00:25:34,184 --> 00:25:36,839
on the amount of animal protein
on your plate.
509
00:25:36,883 --> 00:25:39,842
If you replace
even just 3 percent
510
00:25:39,886 --> 00:25:41,757
of the animal protein
in your diet
511
00:25:41,801 --> 00:25:43,063
with plant protein,
512
00:25:43,106 --> 00:25:45,500
you can actually lower
your death rates
513
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:50,070
by 34 percent when it comes
to processed meat.
514
00:25:50,113 --> 00:25:51,724
Nineteen percent for eggs.
515
00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:54,422
Twelve percent
for unprocessed red meat.
516
00:25:54,465 --> 00:25:57,904
There's even benefits
for replacing dairy,
poultry and fish.
517
00:26:00,036 --> 00:26:03,083
I quiz people a lot.
"Which has more protein?
518
00:26:03,126 --> 00:26:05,564
"Beef or peanuts?"
Everybody picks beef,
519
00:26:05,607 --> 00:26:07,217
but they're exactly the same.
520
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:11,918
CALDWELL ESSELSTYN:
There is protein in grain.
521
00:26:11,961 --> 00:26:14,616
There is protein in beans.
522
00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:18,228
There is protein in red, yellow, green leafy vegetables.
523
00:26:20,187 --> 00:26:23,407
It's almost impossible
to be protein deficient.
524
00:26:23,451 --> 00:26:24,887
On average, all Americans get
525
00:26:24,931 --> 00:26:27,542
about twice the protein
they need.
526
00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:36,943
MICHELLE MCMACKEN:
When you get excess protein
from animal sources,
527
00:26:36,986 --> 00:26:38,684
there's elevated
heart disease risk.
528
00:26:38,727 --> 00:26:41,643
There's elevated cholesterol,
elevated diabetes risk,
529
00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:42,992
elevated cancer risk.
530
00:26:46,996 --> 00:26:49,869
Hello, yellow Mr. Horse.
531
00:26:49,912 --> 00:26:53,176
-What's a horse say?
-BOY: Neigh. Neigh!
532
00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:55,178
Wow, good job. Neigh!
533
00:26:55,222 --> 00:27:00,444
I was diagnosed in Septemberof 2016 with multiple sclerosis.
534
00:27:00,488 --> 00:27:03,883
Um, on the day
I got my diagnosis,
535
00:27:03,926 --> 00:27:06,363
I was mindlessly scrolling
through Facebook,
536
00:27:06,407 --> 00:27:07,843
and I saw this article.
537
00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:11,325
From Doctor to MS Patient
and Back.
538
00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:14,720
I knew I was waiting
for my results,
539
00:27:14,763 --> 00:27:17,592
and I said, "I don't need this.
That's not going to be me,"
540
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:19,507
but I saved it.
541
00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:21,596
And literally,
542
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,077
five minutes after that
I got the phone call
543
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,341
that, yes, it was me.
I have MS.
544
00:27:28,516 --> 00:27:31,519
And in that moment,
my whole world
545
00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:34,696
came crashing down.
546
00:27:36,742 --> 00:27:38,831
You know,
I was thinking the worst,
547
00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:42,312
and, um,
I sobbed the whole way home.
548
00:27:42,356 --> 00:27:44,140
I sobbed the whole next day.
549
00:27:44,184 --> 00:27:46,665
Um, it was pretty devastating,
550
00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:49,450
but I went back
to the article
that I had saved
551
00:27:49,493 --> 00:27:51,017
that I thought
I wouldn't need,
552
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:54,934
and I read about
the incredible Dr. Stancic,
553
00:27:54,977 --> 00:27:56,239
and I called her.
554
00:27:56,283 --> 00:27:57,545
-The unpredictability of it.
-KELLY: Mm-hmm.
555
00:27:57,588 --> 00:28:00,722
I was having lots
of twitching
in my legs...
556
00:28:00,766 --> 00:28:03,290
The day after I met with her,
557
00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:07,033
I went cold turkey,
gave up dairy and meat,
558
00:28:07,076 --> 00:28:10,950
and I adopted
the plant-based diet
in October of 2016.
559
00:28:10,993 --> 00:28:13,343
We're not gonna unravel,
we're not gonna stop breathing.
560
00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:15,606
-We're going to deal with it.
-Mm-hmm, right.
561
00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:17,391
Well, you know what,
let me ask you...
562
00:28:17,434 --> 00:28:19,567
STANCIC:
Outside of Philadelphia,
I met another physician
563
00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:21,612
who has taken a unique approach to healthcare
564
00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:23,223
in her community as well.
565
00:28:25,007 --> 00:28:27,314
ANA NEGRON:
I just couldn't write
another prescription
566
00:28:27,357 --> 00:28:29,446
for chronic disease.
567
00:28:29,490 --> 00:28:31,231
I just couldn't really bear it,
568
00:28:31,274 --> 00:28:32,841
so a lightbulb went on
in my head.
569
00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:34,451
"Maybe I could do something."
[LAUGHS]
570
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:40,675
[ANA SPEAKING SPANISH]
571
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:42,808
I'm going to do
a real quick review.
[SNAPS FINGERS]
572
00:28:42,851 --> 00:28:46,855
I started to bring some samples
of food to the to the clinic
573
00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:48,639
where I was volunteering.
574
00:28:48,683 --> 00:28:51,686
As people said,
"This is delicious,
but what is it?"
575
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:54,776
I said, "You mean,
you don't know oats and kale?"
576
00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,169
I stepped back and said,
577
00:28:56,212 --> 00:28:58,475
"I'd have to introduce people
to food."
578
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,564
[SPEAKING SPANISH]
579
00:29:00,608 --> 00:29:03,524
So for many years,
I have been cooking
with patients,
580
00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:04,873
bringing the food.
581
00:29:04,917 --> 00:29:07,267
Cauliflower.
This is cauliflower.
582
00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:09,791
We're doing six-week cycles.
583
00:29:09,835 --> 00:29:13,099
[SPEAKING SPANISH]
584
00:29:13,142 --> 00:29:15,101
So, it's made from soybeans.
585
00:29:15,144 --> 00:29:18,191
They sample recipes
which sometimes
we assemble here,
586
00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:20,671
sometimes I bring already made.
587
00:29:20,715 --> 00:29:24,632
And they share
their motivations,
their obstacles.
588
00:29:24,675 --> 00:29:26,286
In just two weeks,
589
00:29:26,329 --> 00:29:30,029
people's triglycerides
from 600 come down to 200.
590
00:29:30,072 --> 00:29:33,597
Blood sugars come down without the use of medication.
591
00:29:33,641 --> 00:29:36,600
Next week,
we're making burritos.
592
00:29:36,644 --> 00:29:41,736
[SPEAKING SPANISH]
593
00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:03,627
NEGRON:
The Chester County Food Bank
594
00:30:03,671 --> 00:30:06,369
heard about
what I was doing here
595
00:30:06,413 --> 00:30:09,982
and devised a prescription
for fruits and vegetables.
596
00:30:10,025 --> 00:30:11,722
So let's say three people
in the family,
597
00:30:11,766 --> 00:30:14,073
they get $21 a week
598
00:30:14,116 --> 00:30:16,205
that they can redeem
in the truck.
599
00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:18,425
They are parking here
in Phoenix, though,
600
00:30:18,468 --> 00:30:21,994
once a week
from June to December.
601
00:30:22,037 --> 00:30:25,867
They only have to present
a prescription for food,
602
00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:29,479
and they get the food for free.
603
00:30:29,523 --> 00:30:31,873
Connecting services
with people who need,
604
00:30:31,917 --> 00:30:33,309
I think that's our work.
605
00:30:35,529 --> 00:30:37,183
-[ELEVATOR DINGS]
-This is us.
606
00:30:39,098 --> 00:30:40,795
MCMACKEN:
The challenges are very real
607
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,579
in a primary care situation
608
00:30:42,623 --> 00:30:45,495
where you're given
15 or 20 minutes.
609
00:30:45,539 --> 00:30:47,367
So, I try to keep it simple,
610
00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:50,936
and we usually have to divide itup over quite a few visits.
611
00:30:52,372 --> 00:30:54,940
ORLANDO: Being diagnosed
with type 2 diabetes,
612
00:30:54,983 --> 00:30:56,855
I was kind of afraid,
613
00:30:56,898 --> 00:30:59,292
because I have heard stories
about people
614
00:30:59,335 --> 00:31:02,991
losing limbs or becoming blind.
615
00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:05,907
I also was diagnosed
with high cholesterol.
616
00:31:05,951 --> 00:31:08,910
The plant-based diet,
we started about a year ago.
617
00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,477
I see the results.
618
00:31:11,739 --> 00:31:13,393
So what about the exercise?
619
00:31:13,436 --> 00:31:15,917
I do 15-20 minutes every day.
620
00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:18,702
The cholesterol has dropped
in a big way.
621
00:31:18,746 --> 00:31:20,139
Okay, great.
622
00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:21,270
Have a seat.
623
00:31:21,314 --> 00:31:22,706
Lately, I have been trying
624
00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:25,274
just to stay away from sweets
as always.
625
00:31:25,318 --> 00:31:26,623
-Mm-hmm.
-[LAUGHS]
626
00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:29,191
And the way you told me
with the fruits,
627
00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:31,280
like instead of a glass
of orange juice,
628
00:31:31,324 --> 00:31:32,934
-having a whole orange.
-Exactly.
629
00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:35,894
BARNARD: The old-fashioned idea of type 2 diabetes
630
00:31:35,937 --> 00:31:39,680
was "I've got too much sugar
in my blood," which is true.
631
00:31:39,723 --> 00:31:42,683
And so, "That must mean
I ate too much sugar,"
632
00:31:42,726 --> 00:31:46,426
or "I ate carbohydrates
that release trigger
and that's the whole problem."
633
00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:47,731
That doesn't hold up very well
634
00:31:47,775 --> 00:31:49,995
because looking
inside the cells,
635
00:31:50,038 --> 00:31:52,780
you see the buildup
of tiny fat particles
636
00:31:52,823 --> 00:31:54,782
inside the muscles
and the liver,
637
00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:56,915
'cause the insulin in the body to not work anymore,
638
00:31:56,958 --> 00:31:58,742
and that leads
to insulin resistance.
639
00:31:58,786 --> 00:32:00,440
Suddenly, the blood sugar
rises up,
640
00:32:00,483 --> 00:32:02,007
because insulin
can't get into the cell.
641
00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:03,922
That's the disease process.
642
00:32:03,965 --> 00:32:07,447
The problem in diabetes
isn't that you're getting
sugar in your body.
643
00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:08,796
You should be.
644
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:10,972
The problem is it's not getting
into the cells
645
00:32:11,016 --> 00:32:12,365
working to do some work.
646
00:32:12,408 --> 00:32:16,673
It's the fatty foodscontributing fat to those cells,
647
00:32:16,717 --> 00:32:18,893
and that's what's keeping
the sugar up.
648
00:32:18,937 --> 00:32:20,982
And it's one medication
after another, after another,
after another,
649
00:32:21,026 --> 00:32:24,812
and you guarantee
your patient will not reverse
their diabetes.
650
00:32:26,031 --> 00:32:28,207
They are going
to beV pill taker
651
00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:30,165
for the rest of their life.
652
00:32:30,209 --> 00:32:32,428
GREGER: I wasn't taught this
in medical school.
653
00:32:32,472 --> 00:32:35,954
There is
a severe nutrition deficiency
654
00:32:35,997 --> 00:32:38,565
in education for our physicians.
655
00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,611
STANCIC: Most doctors
are solely trained
656
00:32:41,655 --> 00:32:44,310
on an outdated
medical education model.
657
00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:46,007
We learn how to detect disease,
658
00:32:46,051 --> 00:32:47,966
and then treat
with pharmaceuticals,
659
00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:50,794
procedures
or surgical interventions.
660
00:32:50,838 --> 00:32:52,448
All these are important
661
00:32:52,492 --> 00:32:55,799
but what we don't learn is how to keep patients healthy.
662
00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:58,150
We are receiving
an incomplete education,
663
00:32:58,193 --> 00:33:00,761
leaving us ill-prepared
to care for a country
664
00:33:00,804 --> 00:33:04,025
drowning in chronic disease.
665
00:33:04,069 --> 00:33:05,548
Lifestyle medicine
was not emphasized
666
00:33:05,592 --> 00:33:07,115
when I went to medical school.
667
00:33:07,159 --> 00:33:09,509
I had to learn this on my own.
668
00:33:09,552 --> 00:33:13,556
And in large part,
our schools
continue to fail us.
669
00:33:16,255 --> 00:33:17,734
DAVID EISENBERG:
One in four medical schools
670
00:33:17,778 --> 00:33:19,780
have a dedicated
nutrition course,
671
00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:23,305
and fewer than a third
of medical schools
672
00:33:23,349 --> 00:33:25,264
meet the suggested minimum
673
00:33:25,307 --> 00:33:28,136
of time spent
studying nutrition,
674
00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:33,141
which is recommended
at 25 hours over four years.
675
00:33:33,185 --> 00:33:35,622
Medical school,
I got one lecture.
676
00:33:35,665 --> 00:33:37,145
One lecture on nutrition,
677
00:33:37,189 --> 00:33:39,365
which I remember the lecturer,
678
00:33:39,408 --> 00:33:41,628
she had baked
homemade banana bread.
679
00:33:41,671 --> 00:33:43,891
She said, "Here.
Here's the healthy fat
to put on your bread,"
680
00:33:43,934 --> 00:33:46,807
and it was some mayonnaise,
you know,
681
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:51,159
chemical shit storm [LAUGHS]
that was served up.
682
00:33:51,203 --> 00:33:53,509
STANCIC: Seventy percent
of medical students
when they come in
683
00:33:53,553 --> 00:33:55,642
think that nutrition
is important.
684
00:33:55,685 --> 00:33:57,600
That it's relevant.
685
00:33:57,644 --> 00:34:00,951
By the time they finish,
it's less than half.
686
00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:04,477
So, it's like medical school
washes away
687
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,956
the importance of nutrition.
688
00:34:09,308 --> 00:34:10,787
SAUL BAUTISTA:
Growing up here
in Newark, you know,
689
00:34:10,831 --> 00:34:12,267
there isn't really anyone
telling you,
690
00:34:12,311 --> 00:34:13,877
"Hey, you can be a doctor."
691
00:34:13,921 --> 00:34:15,966
So I never really thought
it was something I could do.
692
00:34:17,142 --> 00:34:22,016
I joined the Army
as a medical lab tech,
693
00:34:23,278 --> 00:34:26,412
and I saw how doctors gave
694
00:34:26,455 --> 00:34:28,849
wounded troops
a chance at life.
695
00:34:28,892 --> 00:34:31,417
I wanted to be able
to do that for someone.
696
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:33,723
Last year,I discovered lifestyle medicine.
697
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:36,161
But no one at my school,
698
00:34:36,204 --> 00:34:39,425
no one ever heard
or talked about this.
699
00:34:39,468 --> 00:34:43,429
So, I went to Google,
and I found Dr. Stancic,
700
00:34:43,472 --> 00:34:45,692
and I said to myself,
"I need to meet her."
701
00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:49,652
[KNOCK ON DOOR]
702
00:34:49,696 --> 00:34:51,219
-Hi.
-Hey. How are you?
703
00:34:51,263 --> 00:34:53,134
-It's so good to see you.
-BAUTISTA:
Long story short,
704
00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:54,788
she became my mentor.
705
00:34:54,831 --> 00:34:58,052
Actually, we we did
a nutritional lecture,
706
00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:00,620
and it was like
this big eye-opener.
707
00:35:02,883 --> 00:35:05,059
No one at Rutgers New Jersey
Medical School
708
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:07,801
talked about
lifestyle medicine.
709
00:35:07,844 --> 00:35:10,891
So, we started
the Lifestyle Medicine
Interest Group, August 2015,
710
00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:14,416
with a paper sign and a table.
711
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:16,026
We held a couple of lectures.
712
00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:18,725
Dr. Stancic delivered
our first talk,
713
00:35:18,768 --> 00:35:21,815
and it really inspired
a lot of students.
714
00:35:21,858 --> 00:35:23,599
STANCIC:
The scientific literature
tells us
715
00:35:23,643 --> 00:35:27,647
that we can prevent
nearly 80 percent
of the chronic illnesses
716
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:30,040
we see today
in clinical practice.
717
00:35:30,084 --> 00:35:32,956
What if we had identified
this patient
718
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,568
early on
before that endpoint occurred?
719
00:35:35,611 --> 00:35:37,439
What if we had given him
the tools
720
00:35:37,483 --> 00:35:40,312
to understand the importance
of his nutrition?
721
00:35:40,355 --> 00:35:42,749
The importance
of his physical activity?
722
00:35:42,792 --> 00:35:46,709
Could this path have taken
a different course?
723
00:35:46,753 --> 00:35:49,190
BAUTISTA: I just hope
I can advocate
for lifestyle,
724
00:35:49,234 --> 00:35:52,933
change the lives of patients
the way she's changing
her patients' lives.
725
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,201
STANCIC: My practice
is really unusual.
726
00:36:00,245 --> 00:36:03,639
It's atypical in that
beyond what I do
in the office setting,
727
00:36:03,683 --> 00:36:04,727
I do other things.
728
00:36:04,771 --> 00:36:06,251
Uh, I do house calls.
729
00:36:06,294 --> 00:36:08,078
I cook with my patients.
730
00:36:08,122 --> 00:36:10,472
I go food shopping
with patients.
731
00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:14,128
It's all about eating
whole foods, whole.
732
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:15,695
You take an apple,
733
00:36:15,738 --> 00:36:17,479
you pick it off the tree
and you eat it, that's perfect.
734
00:36:17,523 --> 00:36:19,046
As soon as we press it,
735
00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:22,092
we turn into apple sauce
or apple juice, it's processed.
736
00:36:22,136 --> 00:36:24,007
So, less and less processing,
737
00:36:24,051 --> 00:36:25,748
eating food
in its natural state.
738
00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:29,187
Choose foods that are in season.
739
00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:30,492
They're gonna be nutrient dense,
740
00:36:30,536 --> 00:36:32,538
-they're gonna be
cost-effective.
-MARK: Okay.
741
00:36:32,581 --> 00:36:34,670
-So, like corn.
Look, three for a dollar.
-Wow.
742
00:36:34,714 --> 00:36:37,847
That's a great veggie
for you to pick up now,
743
00:36:37,891 --> 00:36:39,719
end of August.
744
00:36:39,762 --> 00:36:42,939
MARK: So, we'll do one, dos...
745
00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:44,854
Pumpkin.
746
00:36:44,898 --> 00:36:47,161
You see that orange color?
What is that?
747
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,684
-That is...
-Vital nutrient.
748
00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:51,121
That is a vital nutrient.Color, beta-carotene, vitamin A.
749
00:36:51,165 --> 00:36:53,689
This is really good,
powerful stuff.
750
00:36:54,908 --> 00:36:56,823
That dill smells amazing.
751
00:36:56,866 --> 00:36:58,346
-Oh.
-Yeah.
752
00:36:58,390 --> 00:37:00,522
Uh, make sure
we haven't missed anything.
753
00:37:00,566 --> 00:37:03,612
Cannellini beans.
Have you ever tried
cannellini beans?
754
00:37:03,656 --> 00:37:04,831
I don't think so.
755
00:37:04,874 --> 00:37:08,138
-Beans are a great source
of fiber.
-Okay.
756
00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:10,793
So, we're gonna take
a look at the label here.
757
00:37:10,837 --> 00:37:13,492
Red kidney beans, water,
salt and ascorbic acid.
758
00:37:13,535 --> 00:37:16,799
Ascorbic acid is vitamin C.
759
00:37:16,843 --> 00:37:18,671
STANCIC:
How you read the label,
760
00:37:18,714 --> 00:37:21,064
simple things like that
are very empowering
for patients.
761
00:37:21,108 --> 00:37:24,981
They often go, "Oh, my gosh.
I never saw that."
762
00:37:25,025 --> 00:37:27,549
LEVIN:
What's important, of course,
is that the ingredient list
763
00:37:27,593 --> 00:37:30,770
is as few ingredients
as possible
764
00:37:30,813 --> 00:37:33,555
and that you can pronounce
those ingredients.
765
00:37:35,470 --> 00:37:36,689
Of course,
when you read ingredients,
766
00:37:36,732 --> 00:37:38,821
you have to know
all the tricks words, too.
767
00:37:38,865 --> 00:37:41,433
It might say something
like cane juice.
768
00:37:41,476 --> 00:37:43,261
You just gotta know that
"Oh, that's sugar."
769
00:37:43,304 --> 00:37:47,352
Do you really want
in your spaghetti sauce
or whatever?
770
00:37:47,395 --> 00:37:49,789
STANCIC: How do we know
something's a whole grain?
771
00:37:49,832 --> 00:37:52,792
The labeling laws
are pretty loose
772
00:37:52,835 --> 00:37:54,620
about what you can call
a whole grain.
773
00:37:54,663 --> 00:37:57,710
So, the front of a box
of Lucky Charms
774
00:37:57,753 --> 00:38:00,147
says whole grain.
775
00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:03,063
[GROANS] That is not...
You know, like, come on.
776
00:38:03,106 --> 00:38:05,370
A whole grain
has one ingredient.
777
00:38:05,413 --> 00:38:07,328
Oats, rice,
778
00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:10,375
quinoa, barley,
that's a whole grain.
779
00:38:10,418 --> 00:38:11,854
STANCIC: This chronic illness epidemic,
780
00:38:11,898 --> 00:38:14,161
how do we turn this tide?
781
00:38:14,204 --> 00:38:17,338
There are so many variables
that play a role here,
782
00:38:17,382 --> 00:38:21,299
but I believe physicians have
to take the lead on this.
783
00:38:30,046 --> 00:38:31,439
LEVIN:
At the physicians committee,
784
00:38:31,483 --> 00:38:33,702
the mission is
to advocate and promote
785
00:38:33,746 --> 00:38:36,792
plant-based eating
for disease prevention.
786
00:38:37,489 --> 00:38:39,273
Treatment as well.
787
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:42,276
-A small apple.
Did you eat the skin, too?
-Yeah.
788
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,670
We are one of the few places
789
00:38:44,713 --> 00:38:47,716
that do randomized
controlled trials
790
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,805
with a plant-based diet.
791
00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:51,372
HANA KAHLEOVA:
Who is the dietician here?
792
00:38:51,416 --> 00:38:53,418
We're conducting a new study
793
00:38:53,461 --> 00:38:56,856
that's testing the effect
of a plant-based diet
on metabolism.
794
00:38:56,899 --> 00:38:59,554
So, the participants
typically come
795
00:38:59,598 --> 00:39:02,470
early in the morning
in the fasting state,
796
00:39:02,514 --> 00:39:04,777
and we measure their metabolism.
797
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:09,521
Then, they get
a standard breakfast,
798
00:39:09,564 --> 00:39:11,914
and we're measuring
their metabolism
799
00:39:11,958 --> 00:39:13,829
for three hours
after the breakfast.
800
00:39:13,873 --> 00:39:15,570
STANCIC: And what do
you expect to see?
801
00:39:15,614 --> 00:39:18,443
Uh, we're expecting
to see an increase
802
00:39:18,486 --> 00:39:22,403
in the ability to burn calories
in response to the meal intake
803
00:39:22,447 --> 00:39:26,712
after the 16 weeks
of plant-based diet.
804
00:39:26,755 --> 00:39:29,671
Cheddar, approximately
one tablespoon.
805
00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:32,587
White rotisserie chicken...
806
00:39:32,631 --> 00:39:37,287
LEVIN: PCRM does do some work
around legislation with food.
807
00:39:37,331 --> 00:39:39,246
So, sometimes, it does involve
808
00:39:39,289 --> 00:39:41,857
bills and acts
and talking to Congress.
809
00:39:43,685 --> 00:39:46,819
BARNARD: Congress is a difficult animal.
810
00:39:46,862 --> 00:39:48,951
In the House,
they have to get elected
every two years.
811
00:39:48,995 --> 00:39:51,693
That means they're
fundraising all the time.
812
00:39:51,737 --> 00:39:54,000
So if you're from Iowa,
813
00:39:54,043 --> 00:39:56,611
and you're gonna speak out
against pork
814
00:39:56,655 --> 00:40:00,136
and say that it's linked
to colorectal cancer?
815
00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:02,269
You might be out of a job
in two years' time.
816
00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:07,187
MARION NESTLE: You would hope
that the federal agencies
817
00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:09,319
would put public health first.
818
00:40:09,363 --> 00:40:11,104
But in fact, right now,
819
00:40:11,147 --> 00:40:14,237
corporations run a lot
of American society,
820
00:40:14,281 --> 00:40:17,719
and they are
extremely influential
in government.
821
00:40:17,763 --> 00:40:19,721
PAM POPPER: The United States
Department of Agriculture
822
00:40:19,765 --> 00:40:23,029
was formed
under Abraham Lincoln's
administration.
823
00:40:23,072 --> 00:40:26,598
And it's an agricultural
advocacy organization,
824
00:40:26,641 --> 00:40:28,164
which I think is a good idea.
825
00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:30,732
Taking care of farmers
and... All good.
826
00:40:30,776 --> 00:40:32,952
The problem is
that some place
along the line,
827
00:40:32,995 --> 00:40:35,128
the USDA decided
it was going to issue
828
00:40:35,171 --> 00:40:38,087
dietary guidelines
to the American public.
829
00:40:38,131 --> 00:40:39,698
These dietary guidelines
830
00:40:39,741 --> 00:40:42,483
infiltrate the curriculum
that teaches dieticians
831
00:40:42,527 --> 00:40:44,311
what our military eats,
832
00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:46,705
hospital food.
833
00:40:46,748 --> 00:40:50,012
It is the blueprint
for all federal food programs,
834
00:40:50,056 --> 00:40:53,842
school lunch, and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program,
835
00:40:53,886 --> 00:40:55,627
otherwise known as Food Stamps.
836
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:58,586
So, it's incredibly important
that it be accurate.
837
00:41:01,894 --> 00:41:04,505
BARNARD:
The dietary guidelines
right now
838
00:41:04,549 --> 00:41:07,203
still say you should have
dairy products every day.
839
00:41:07,247 --> 00:41:08,640
Despite the fact
that dairy products
840
00:41:08,683 --> 00:41:12,121
are the No. 1 source
of bad fat and saturated fat,
841
00:41:12,165 --> 00:41:13,862
they're still
too friendly to meat.
842
00:41:13,906 --> 00:41:16,430
Especially the processed meats
like bacon or ham
843
00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,954
that are clearly linked
to colon cancer.
844
00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:20,739
We gotta be tough
on those foods
845
00:41:20,782 --> 00:41:22,654
and stop pushing them.
846
00:41:23,568 --> 00:41:25,483
[INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING]
847
00:41:31,358 --> 00:41:33,621
POPPER:
The USDA actually operates
in partnership
848
00:41:33,665 --> 00:41:36,798
to promote the consumption
of animal food.
849
00:41:36,842 --> 00:41:39,018
For example, there's
a Dairy Checkoff Program,
850
00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:40,585
where dairy farmers
in the United States,
851
00:41:40,628 --> 00:41:44,284
pay a certain number
of pennies per pound.
852
00:41:44,327 --> 00:41:47,461
It goes into a fund,
and then the USDA
administers it
853
00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:49,594
and goes out
and forms partnerships
854
00:41:49,637 --> 00:41:50,899
to help promote dairy.
855
00:41:51,813 --> 00:41:53,598
They partnered with Pizza Hut,
856
00:41:53,641 --> 00:41:54,990
uh, Taco Bell.
857
00:41:55,034 --> 00:41:57,340
They come up
with new items on the menu
858
00:41:57,384 --> 00:41:59,865
that have cheese
or to add more cheese
859
00:41:59,908 --> 00:42:01,257
to various items.
860
00:42:03,216 --> 00:42:05,479
This is an institutional
conflict of interest
861
00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:06,959
that can never be resolved.
862
00:42:07,002 --> 00:42:08,874
Over here,
you're helping farmers.
863
00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:11,398
Then over here,
if you really did
the right thing,
864
00:42:11,441 --> 00:42:14,575
you might tell people
not to buy so much of something
865
00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:18,057
that these people
who you're advocating
for produce.
866
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:19,493
It can never be reconciled.
867
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,063
LEVIN: It takes years
to move government.
868
00:42:24,106 --> 00:42:26,587
So, now we're trying to move
that conversation,
869
00:42:26,631 --> 00:42:28,110
which is long overdue,
870
00:42:28,154 --> 00:42:29,590
but this is gonna be hard.
871
00:42:29,634 --> 00:42:32,375
We got ourselves
into quite a bind here,
872
00:42:32,419 --> 00:42:34,116
and it's gonna take a lot
of work and effort
873
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,465
to get us out of it.
874
00:42:38,512 --> 00:42:40,035
ESSELSTYN: Forty years ago,
875
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,124
medicine recognized
that cardiovascular disease
876
00:42:42,168 --> 00:42:44,866
was the leading cause
of death in this country.
877
00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:47,565
Today, 40 years later,
it's still the same.
878
00:42:49,131 --> 00:42:51,438
So, we look at that
and we say to ourselves,
879
00:42:51,481 --> 00:42:53,048
"Can't we do better?"
880
00:42:53,092 --> 00:42:55,660
I do this five-and-a-half-hour intensive seminar
881
00:42:55,703 --> 00:42:57,270
where people become aware
882
00:42:57,313 --> 00:42:59,925
that food is their salvation
883
00:42:59,968 --> 00:43:03,972
or it can also be their destiny
to an early grave.
884
00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:06,932
When you have a pizza
or a cheeseburger,
885
00:43:06,975 --> 00:43:08,803
the first thing that happens
in your bloodstream...
886
00:43:08,847 --> 00:43:12,024
A chronic illness doesn't occur when you have a cheeseburger,
887
00:43:13,416 --> 00:43:16,071
but you do take a hit.
888
00:43:16,115 --> 00:43:19,684
Of that hit,
your body recovers,
let's say 90 percent,
889
00:43:19,727 --> 00:43:22,991
but you're left with
a little 10 percent injury.
890
00:43:23,035 --> 00:43:25,733
Does it make any difference
in your blood pressure?
Probably not.
891
00:43:25,777 --> 00:43:28,040
But you do that
over five years,
892
00:43:28,083 --> 00:43:30,477
you blood pressure goes up
just a few points.
893
00:43:31,434 --> 00:43:33,045
You do it another five years,
894
00:43:33,088 --> 00:43:35,090
now your doctor says,
"You know..."[SMACKS LIPS]
895
00:43:35,134 --> 00:43:36,614
I think we ought
to start a little pill
896
00:43:36,657 --> 00:43:37,919
for this blood pressure.
897
00:43:37,963 --> 00:43:39,268
And I've also noticed
898
00:43:39,312 --> 00:43:41,793
your blood sugar
is a little high.
899
00:43:41,836 --> 00:43:44,273
So, this is chronic illness.
900
00:43:44,317 --> 00:43:47,233
Well, you gotta become
good strippers,
901
00:43:47,276 --> 00:43:50,192
so you take the left hand here
and you pull.
902
00:43:50,236 --> 00:43:51,933
ESSELSTYN: There's
a marvelous presentation
903
00:43:51,977 --> 00:43:53,935
preparing plant-based foods,
904
00:43:53,979 --> 00:43:55,458
dealing with
reading ingredients,
905
00:43:55,502 --> 00:43:56,764
travel and restaurants.
906
00:43:56,808 --> 00:43:58,113
...led me
to a vascular surgeon.
907
00:43:58,157 --> 00:43:59,549
ESSELSTYN: We've always have participants
908
00:43:59,593 --> 00:44:01,813
who've had a previous
successful experience.
909
00:44:01,856 --> 00:44:04,598
Cholesterol medication
was cut in half,
910
00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:06,208
then cut in half again.
911
00:44:06,252 --> 00:44:07,645
ESSELSTYN: We answer questions.
912
00:44:07,688 --> 00:44:10,212
WOMAN: So, Diet Coke...
913
00:44:10,256 --> 00:44:12,606
No, no, no. Let's be sure.
914
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:15,391
-The thing you drink is water.
-[AUDIENCE LAUGHS]
915
00:44:15,435 --> 00:44:18,699
-Water is what you drink.
-WOMAN: Yes, got it.
916
00:44:18,743 --> 00:44:21,789
I show them exactly how they created their disease.
917
00:44:21,833 --> 00:44:23,486
This little dark area,
918
00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:26,838
that is the life jacket
and guardian
of your blood vessels.
919
00:44:26,881 --> 00:44:28,840
The endothelium.
920
00:44:28,883 --> 00:44:32,017
The endothelial cells
manufacture nitric oxide,
921
00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:34,410
which prevents
the wall of the artery
922
00:44:34,454 --> 00:44:36,674
from becoming thick
and stiff or inflamed.
923
00:44:36,717 --> 00:44:38,197
Keeps all the cellular elements
924
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:39,720
flowing smoothly
in our bloodstream
925
00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:41,504
like Teflon rather
than Velcro.
926
00:44:41,548 --> 00:44:43,768
Keep things from getting sticky.
927
00:44:43,811 --> 00:44:47,119
If you eat foods
that are gonna injure
the endothelium,
928
00:44:47,162 --> 00:44:50,339
now cholesterol
can find a pathway
929
00:44:50,383 --> 00:44:52,690
through the endothelium.
930
00:44:52,733 --> 00:44:56,824
We begin this cascade
of LDL oxidation,
931
00:44:56,868 --> 00:44:59,087
formation of the foam cell.
932
00:44:59,131 --> 00:45:01,220
The foam cell
makes metalloproteinases
933
00:45:01,263 --> 00:45:03,309
that erode the plaque
till it ruptures,
934
00:45:03,352 --> 00:45:04,702
then we have the heart attack.
935
00:45:10,446 --> 00:45:12,797
BAXTER MONTGOMERY:
We have a lot of
heart failure here in Texas
936
00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:15,364
all within 250 miles
937
00:45:15,408 --> 00:45:18,150
of what
seven heart transplant centers.
938
00:45:18,193 --> 00:45:21,588
Right here in Houston,
Texas Medical Center
has its own zip code.
939
00:45:21,631 --> 00:45:24,417
It's the largest medical center in the world.
940
00:45:24,460 --> 00:45:26,288
STANCIC: So when you first
started coming here,
941
00:45:26,332 --> 00:45:27,594
how long ago was that?
942
00:45:27,637 --> 00:45:28,943
MONTGOMERY:
Well, I've been here since '64.
943
00:45:30,249 --> 00:45:31,424
-'64?
-Mm-hmm.
944
00:45:31,467 --> 00:45:32,512
-You were born here?
-Right.
945
00:45:32,555 --> 00:45:34,122
[SARAY LAUGHS]
946
00:45:34,166 --> 00:45:35,384
MONTGOMERY:
We have patients coming in
947
00:45:35,428 --> 00:45:36,821
with multivessel
coronary disease
948
00:45:36,864 --> 00:45:39,214
that have had bypass surgery
once or twice.
949
00:45:39,258 --> 00:45:41,434
It's not enough to say
eat healthy,
950
00:45:41,477 --> 00:45:45,394
to the extent that patients need some type of intervention,
951
00:45:45,438 --> 00:45:47,092
medically, surgically, etc.
952
00:45:47,135 --> 00:45:51,183
We also include
the lifestyle intervention.
953
00:45:51,226 --> 00:45:55,056
STANCIC:
This subject has become
very personal for me.
954
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:57,450
Last year,
my brother-in-law, Glenn,
955
00:45:57,493 --> 00:45:59,060
had triple bypass surgery.
956
00:46:00,453 --> 00:46:02,150
It was a shock.
957
00:46:02,194 --> 00:46:05,197
Glenn was an active runner,
and he wasn't overweight,
958
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,851
but he did have
a terrible diet.
959
00:46:07,677 --> 00:46:08,896
After the surgery,
960
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:10,811
he admitted to me
he routinely ate
961
00:46:10,855 --> 00:46:14,423
chocolate chip cookies
for breakfast.
962
00:46:14,467 --> 00:46:16,643
GIOVANNI CAMPANILE:
Bypass surgery or stenting
963
00:46:16,686 --> 00:46:18,427
alleviates
the immediate problem
964
00:46:18,471 --> 00:46:19,820
of the blocked arteries.
965
00:46:19,864 --> 00:46:21,953
It doesn't alleviate
the underlying problem,
966
00:46:21,996 --> 00:46:25,391
and the Ornish Program
addresses that part of it.
967
00:46:25,434 --> 00:46:26,958
It's very effective.
968
00:46:27,001 --> 00:46:28,829
How many sessions
have you done so far?
969
00:46:28,873 --> 00:46:31,223
GLENN: First to fourth week,
so about eight.
970
00:46:31,266 --> 00:46:33,094
STANCIC: Following his doctor's advice,
971
00:46:33,138 --> 00:46:35,793
Glenn started an intensive
lifestyle intervention.
972
00:46:37,229 --> 00:46:39,231
I sat down
with the program's founder,
973
00:46:39,274 --> 00:46:41,363
Dr. Dean Ornish.
974
00:46:41,407 --> 00:46:42,756
ORNISH:
When I was in medical school
975
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,627
and learning how
to do bypass surgery,
976
00:46:44,671 --> 00:46:47,239
we cut people open,
they go home,
we'd tell them they were cured.
977
00:46:47,282 --> 00:46:49,807
And more often than not,
they would eat the same food,
978
00:46:49,850 --> 00:46:51,852
the same junk foods,
not manage stress well,
979
00:46:51,896 --> 00:46:53,158
not exercise.
980
00:46:53,201 --> 00:46:54,899
The bypasses would clog up.
981
00:46:54,942 --> 00:46:57,031
We'd cut them up again.
Bypass the bypass.
982
00:46:57,075 --> 00:46:58,772
Sometimes two or three times.
983
00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:01,166
And so for me, bypass surgery
became a metaphor
984
00:47:01,209 --> 00:47:02,776
of an incomplete approach.
985
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:04,778
We were literally bypassing
the problem.
986
00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:06,258
We weren't treating
the cause.
987
00:47:06,301 --> 00:47:08,129
I wondered what would happen
if we treated the cause.
988
00:47:13,918 --> 00:47:15,441
NURSE:
Okay, what'd you get, Bill?
989
00:47:16,746 --> 00:47:18,139
ORNISH: Our lifestyle medicine program
990
00:47:18,183 --> 00:47:20,185
is 18 four-hour sessions.
991
00:47:20,228 --> 00:47:22,274
So, we have
supervised exercise...
992
00:47:22,317 --> 00:47:24,102
-Stop at 45.
-Okay.
993
00:47:24,145 --> 00:47:26,495
ORNISH: ...stress management,
which is yoga and meditation.
994
00:47:26,539 --> 00:47:29,803
A support group,
which is really key
to getting adherence,
995
00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:31,370
and a group meal
with a lecture.
996
00:47:31,413 --> 00:47:32,937
I'm starving.
997
00:47:32,980 --> 00:47:34,677
-WOMAN: Okay.
-Wow.
998
00:47:35,765 --> 00:47:38,551
I'd leave the tofu out.
999
00:47:38,594 --> 00:47:41,597
Would you do something else
to put a different protein in?
1000
00:47:41,641 --> 00:47:42,860
He said, "Steak."
1001
00:47:42,903 --> 00:47:45,210
-[LAUGHING]
-WOMAN: I heard him. Wise guy.
1002
00:47:45,253 --> 00:47:46,733
GLENN: The Ornish Program,
when I started,
1003
00:47:46,776 --> 00:47:48,909
I was a little,
maybe skeptical is the word,
1004
00:47:48,953 --> 00:47:50,302
'cause I was like, "Okay."
1005
00:47:50,345 --> 00:47:52,347
When I was his age,
you didn't hear any of this.
1006
00:47:52,391 --> 00:47:54,915
You're basically, you know,"Don't smoke 'cause that's bad."
1007
00:47:54,959 --> 00:47:56,830
That was coming out.
That was being bad for you
1008
00:47:56,874 --> 00:47:57,962
and then that was kinda it,
1009
00:47:58,005 --> 00:47:59,877
and exercise
and watch your weight.
1010
00:48:02,531 --> 00:48:04,490
ANTHONY: My grandfather had
an open-heart surgery.
1011
00:48:04,533 --> 00:48:05,926
My dad had open-heart surgery.
1012
00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:07,754
Genes kinda make it seem like, "Oh, it's gonna happen.
1013
00:48:07,797 --> 00:48:09,103
"There's nothing I can do
about it.
1014
00:48:09,147 --> 00:48:10,626
"So then, why do I care?"
1015
00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:12,150
Whereas this, the Ornish thing,
1016
00:48:12,193 --> 00:48:14,326
it kinda returns
some power to yourself.
1017
00:48:14,369 --> 00:48:17,285
It's like if you make
these different choices
every day,
1018
00:48:17,329 --> 00:48:19,897
you can kinda control
what happens to you.
1019
00:48:23,074 --> 00:48:26,729
STANCIC: Just because you have a gene for a particular illness
1020
00:48:26,773 --> 00:48:29,471
doesn't mean that you're going
to get that illness.
1021
00:48:29,515 --> 00:48:31,082
Genes are like a light torch.
1022
00:48:31,125 --> 00:48:33,911
We can turn them on,
and we can turn them off.
1023
00:48:35,564 --> 00:48:39,829
This concept is the foundation for the science of epigenetics.
1024
00:48:42,702 --> 00:48:44,225
SHELLEY BERGER:
We can't discount
1025
00:48:44,269 --> 00:48:46,575
what we inherit
from our parents,
1026
00:48:46,619 --> 00:48:49,361
but the genes themselves
aren't enough.
1027
00:48:49,404 --> 00:48:53,060
They have to be regulated
or turned on and off.
1028
00:48:53,104 --> 00:48:56,194
So, epigenetics
is the regulatory system
1029
00:48:56,237 --> 00:48:58,544
that's on top of genes.
1030
00:48:58,587 --> 00:49:01,895
All of our cells
have exactly the same genes,
1031
00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:03,723
but they're differently used.
1032
00:49:03,766 --> 00:49:06,900
So, you have
200 major cell types.
1033
00:49:07,596 --> 00:49:08,641
Same genes.
1034
00:49:08,684 --> 00:49:10,208
In different cells,
1035
00:49:10,251 --> 00:49:12,993
some genes have to be on
and other genes have to be off.
1036
00:49:13,037 --> 00:49:16,649
That's accomplished
with these epigenetic marks.
1037
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,218
Two identical twins at birth
1038
00:49:20,261 --> 00:49:23,699
have exactly
the same epigenetic marks.
1039
00:49:23,743 --> 00:49:27,007
However, as twins age,
1040
00:49:27,051 --> 00:49:29,792
the genes can differ
from one another.
1041
00:49:29,836 --> 00:49:33,535
So, a great example
are these two sisters,
1042
00:49:33,579 --> 00:49:34,928
Dear Abby and Ann Landers
1043
00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:37,887
They were both advice columnistswhen I was young.
1044
00:49:38,584 --> 00:49:40,020
They're identical twins,
1045
00:49:40,064 --> 00:49:42,457
but one died of cancer,
1046
00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:46,592
the other died as a result
of Alzheimer's disease.
1047
00:49:46,635 --> 00:49:50,248
So in spite of the fact
that they're monozygotic twins,
1048
00:49:50,291 --> 00:49:53,860
exactly the same genetics
at birth.
1049
00:49:53,903 --> 00:49:56,428
As they aged,
they became so different
1050
00:49:56,471 --> 00:50:00,127
that they actually died11 years apart from one another.
1051
00:50:05,698 --> 00:50:08,527
CAMPBELL: Look at the website of the National Cancer Institute,
1052
00:50:08,570 --> 00:50:11,921
they'll say, "Cancer is a genetic disease."
1053
00:50:11,965 --> 00:50:14,272
Full stop.
I say, "No, it's not."
1054
00:50:18,537 --> 00:50:22,845
I was interested in knowing
what protein did to cancer.
1055
00:50:22,889 --> 00:50:28,242
Does high protein feeding
increase cancer formation?
1056
00:50:28,286 --> 00:50:31,376
I learned more protein
really turned that cancer on.
1057
00:50:34,379 --> 00:50:37,338
Animal protein did that.
Plant proteins did not.
1058
00:50:37,382 --> 00:50:39,253
Because we're eating
the whole food,
1059
00:50:39,297 --> 00:50:41,342
you're also eating
complex carbohydrates
1060
00:50:41,386 --> 00:50:43,127
as well as the antioxidants,
1061
00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:45,042
which tend to repress
1062
00:50:45,085 --> 00:50:46,869
some of the activities
that proteins otherwise
might have.
1063
00:50:49,872 --> 00:50:52,571
STANCIC: Cancer is
one of the leading causes
of death worldwide.
1064
00:50:54,225 --> 00:50:56,705
By 2030,
the number of new cases
1065
00:50:56,749 --> 00:50:59,665
is expected to reach more than 20 million per year.
1066
00:51:03,234 --> 00:51:04,931
KATZ: The good news is
1067
00:51:04,974 --> 00:51:08,369
the lifestyle
medicine prescription
defends against cancer.
1068
00:51:08,413 --> 00:51:10,589
Now, we probably
can't prevent cancer
1069
00:51:10,632 --> 00:51:12,504
quite as consistently
1070
00:51:12,547 --> 00:51:14,680
as we can prevent heart disease
and diabetes,
1071
00:51:14,723 --> 00:51:17,117
but cancer is also preventable.
1072
00:51:17,161 --> 00:51:19,859
More than a 30 percent
risk reduction
1073
00:51:19,902 --> 00:51:21,730
through lifestyle practices.
1074
00:51:21,774 --> 00:51:22,905
That's pretty darn good.
1075
00:51:25,604 --> 00:51:28,520
STANCIC: Lifestyle won't help
every kind of cancer.
1076
00:51:28,563 --> 00:51:31,262
But lifestyle changes
can reduce your risk
1077
00:51:31,305 --> 00:51:33,002
for some of the most prevalent,
1078
00:51:33,046 --> 00:51:36,223
such as colon, prostate
and breast cancer.
1079
00:51:40,662 --> 00:51:42,795
Hi, Charlene.
1080
00:51:42,838 --> 00:51:45,754
They found a small lump.
1081
00:51:45,798 --> 00:51:47,974
It is a breast cancer.
It started...
1082
00:51:48,017 --> 00:51:50,498
JOVITA ORUWARI:
I've been doing breast cancer
surgery for about 15 years.
1083
00:51:57,549 --> 00:52:01,074
I don't think
that women realize
1084
00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:04,033
that diet, exercise, obesity
1085
00:52:04,077 --> 00:52:07,776
actually have an impacton the developing breast cancer.
1086
00:52:09,387 --> 00:52:12,172
Most women, when I talk to them about that,
1087
00:52:12,216 --> 00:52:14,653
is the first time
they've heard it.
1088
00:52:14,696 --> 00:52:17,308
And it's frankly,
a big surprise to them
1089
00:52:17,351 --> 00:52:20,006
to hear that those life choices
1090
00:52:20,049 --> 00:52:22,226
made an impact
into their breast cancer.
1091
00:52:24,141 --> 00:52:28,057
One in four cancers
diagnosed in women
1092
00:52:28,101 --> 00:52:30,408
in the world is breast cancer
1093
00:52:30,451 --> 00:52:33,802
Um, so this is, in fact,
a global problem.
1094
00:52:33,846 --> 00:52:38,024
And so, we've looked at a numbers lifestyle factors
1095
00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:40,635
such as physical activity
1096
00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:45,553
protective for particularly
premenopausal breast cancer.
1097
00:52:45,597 --> 00:52:48,165
Alcohol,
clearly increasing risk.
1098
00:52:49,557 --> 00:52:52,821
And high fruits and vegetables,
high fiber,
1099
00:52:52,865 --> 00:52:55,215
protective against
breast cancer.
1100
00:52:59,393 --> 00:53:03,310
Avoiding weight gain
through premenopausal years
1101
00:53:03,354 --> 00:53:06,705
reduces risk of breast cancer.
1102
00:53:06,748 --> 00:53:08,315
STANCIC: How much of a reduction in risk
1103
00:53:08,359 --> 00:53:10,752
do you think potentially
we could reap
1104
00:53:10,796 --> 00:53:12,928
from adopting these behaviors.
1105
00:53:12,972 --> 00:53:15,757
Part of the answer
is when do we start?
1106
00:53:15,801 --> 00:53:17,368
If we start with our daughters
1107
00:53:17,411 --> 00:53:19,805
or our nieces
or our grandchildren,
1108
00:53:19,848 --> 00:53:22,764
we could have
a really big impact
1109
00:53:22,808 --> 00:53:24,940
on premenopausal
breast cancer.
1110
00:53:24,984 --> 00:53:29,815
With that healthy diet from,
let's say age ten or twelve,
1111
00:53:29,858 --> 00:53:34,385
on high physical activity,
limited alcohol,
1112
00:53:34,428 --> 00:53:37,170
where over 50 percent,
over half,
1113
00:53:37,214 --> 00:53:41,696
of premenopausal breast cancer could be avoided.
1114
00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:46,266
The factors outside
that affect the epigenome
1115
00:53:46,310 --> 00:53:49,269
are diet, alcohol is a big one,
1116
00:53:49,313 --> 00:53:51,967
air pollution, water pollution,
1117
00:53:52,011 --> 00:53:55,275
too much sunlight
can lead to mutations.
1118
00:53:55,319 --> 00:53:58,757
So really almost everything
that's coming in.
1119
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,716
Now, when we get into stress,
it gets a little complicated.
1120
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,065
A little bit of stress
1121
00:54:04,197 --> 00:54:06,112
is protective to the epigenome.
1122
00:54:06,155 --> 00:54:08,375
So that's actually
what exercise does.
1123
00:54:08,419 --> 00:54:11,335
It stresses our cells
a little bit,
1124
00:54:11,378 --> 00:54:14,425
and that brings in
repair mechanisms
1125
00:54:14,468 --> 00:54:17,471
that keep our genomes pristine.
1126
00:54:17,515 --> 00:54:20,996
But too much stress can lead
to the mutational errors.
1127
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,260
Um, too much stress is bad.
1128
00:54:25,305 --> 00:54:27,089
STANCIC: Let's talk
about inflammation.
1129
00:54:27,133 --> 00:54:29,962
When we live in
a pro-inflammatory environment,
1130
00:54:30,005 --> 00:54:31,920
we turn on the bad genes.
1131
00:54:33,139 --> 00:54:35,750
Inflammation is
a common denominator
1132
00:54:35,794 --> 00:54:38,710
among many of my patients
with autoimmune diseases.
1133
00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,279
AMY: I am a general surgeon,
1134
00:54:42,322 --> 00:54:45,847
and I had been dealing
with ulcerative colitis
1135
00:54:45,891 --> 00:54:51,505
ever since I was, um,
at the end of my residency.
1136
00:54:51,549 --> 00:54:54,116
Every single colonoscopy I had,
1137
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,032
there was always
an element of inflammation
on the scope.
1138
00:54:58,773 --> 00:55:01,950
Last year,
my ankles were swelling.
1139
00:55:01,994 --> 00:55:05,389
So, I had my heart checked out and everything was fine.
1140
00:55:05,432 --> 00:55:08,609
And I had no explanation as
to why my ankles were swelling.
1141
00:55:11,873 --> 00:55:13,962
I just knew
something had to change,
1142
00:55:14,006 --> 00:55:17,792
so I went to see
Dr. Stancic last June,
1143
00:55:17,836 --> 00:55:20,665
and for two hours we sat down,
1144
00:55:20,708 --> 00:55:23,015
and we talked about
what my life is like
1145
00:55:23,058 --> 00:55:24,756
and how to change it.
1146
00:55:24,799 --> 00:55:26,497
I went on a plant-based diet.
1147
00:55:27,672 --> 00:55:30,283
I exercise more,
lost some weight,
1148
00:55:31,458 --> 00:55:33,199
and then I had a colonoscopy.
1149
00:55:33,242 --> 00:55:34,679
Six months into it,
1150
00:55:34,722 --> 00:55:38,596
and there was absolutely
no inflammation at all.
1151
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:41,947
I am feeling so much better
than I did a year ago,
1152
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:45,951
and I even cut
my medicine in half.
1153
00:55:45,994 --> 00:55:48,867
STANCIC: The idea
that diet and lifestyle
1154
00:55:48,910 --> 00:55:53,741
can affect an autoimmune diseaseis relatively new,
1155
00:55:53,785 --> 00:55:56,483
but there is evidence in inflammatory bowel diseases
1156
00:55:56,527 --> 00:55:59,530
like ulcerative colitis
and Crohn's disease.
1157
00:55:59,573 --> 00:56:01,923
There is evidence
in the lupus literature.
1158
00:56:01,967 --> 00:56:04,578
There's evidence
in the rheumatoid arthritis
literature.
1159
00:56:05,971 --> 00:56:07,625
And we're looking
at the microbiome,
1160
00:56:07,668 --> 00:56:11,411
the microbiome is connected
to this immune system of ours.
1161
00:56:11,455 --> 00:56:12,934
And what affects our microbiome?
1162
00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:14,936
Our diet.
1163
00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:18,679
The microbiome refers
to a whole host of organisms
1164
00:56:18,723 --> 00:56:20,855
that live on, in and around us.
1165
00:56:20,899 --> 00:56:23,989
Fungi, bacteria,
protozoa, yeast.
1166
00:56:24,032 --> 00:56:25,686
We used to think they were pretty insignificant,
1167
00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:28,297
but they dictate
our overall health.
1168
00:56:28,341 --> 00:56:32,737
When you eat an unhealthy diet, your microbiome gets altered.
1169
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:34,565
You enter a state
called dysbiosis
1170
00:56:34,608 --> 00:56:37,872
where you have bacteria
that may not be
so healthy for you
1171
00:56:37,916 --> 00:56:40,788
that are overgrown in relation
to the healthy bacteria.
1172
00:56:40,832 --> 00:56:42,573
They produce chemicals
and often times
1173
00:56:42,616 --> 00:56:44,401
these chemicals
are carcinogenic
1174
00:56:44,444 --> 00:56:47,012
and really mess
with our immune system.
1175
00:56:47,055 --> 00:56:48,709
So, an unhealthy gut microbiome
1176
00:56:48,753 --> 00:56:51,582
corresponds with many
autoimmune diseases.
1177
00:56:51,625 --> 00:56:53,322
If you were to ask me
to summarize
1178
00:56:53,366 --> 00:56:57,065
how to get a healthy microbiome
in one word, it would be fiber.
1179
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:59,372
Americans are so fiber deplete.
1180
00:57:01,505 --> 00:57:02,854
LEVIN: That should be
the headline in the paper.
1181
00:57:02,897 --> 00:57:04,464
There should be a fiber diet
1182
00:57:04,508 --> 00:57:08,207
because most people are getting
about 15 grams a day,
1183
00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:12,298
but they need anywhere
from 26 to 30 grams a day.
1184
00:57:12,341 --> 00:57:14,648
Fiber only exists
in plant foods,
1185
00:57:14,692 --> 00:57:16,694
and there's a lot of research
out there now.
1186
00:57:16,737 --> 00:57:20,132
People on plant-based diets tend to have better gut flora.
1187
00:57:20,175 --> 00:57:22,656
STANCIC: Lifestyle
and plant-based eating
1188
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:25,703
is an important aspect of not only preventing disease
1189
00:57:25,746 --> 00:57:28,053
but it's going
to be very important
1190
00:57:28,096 --> 00:57:31,404
in managing the spectrum
of autoimmunity.
1191
00:57:31,448 --> 00:57:34,059
Because think about how
we treat autoimmunity now.
1192
00:57:34,102 --> 00:57:37,889
We treat autoimmune disease
with a drug
1193
00:57:37,932 --> 00:57:40,587
that knocks out
your immune system.
1194
00:57:40,631 --> 00:57:42,067
And when we do that, yep,
1195
00:57:42,110 --> 00:57:44,417
maybe we cool off
that autoimmune disease,
1196
00:57:44,461 --> 00:57:47,202
but we're also doing
collateral damage.
1197
00:57:47,246 --> 00:57:48,726
Our immune system is important.
1198
00:57:48,769 --> 00:57:51,903
There's a lot
of little bits of light
1199
00:57:51,946 --> 00:57:53,252
that we're starting to see.
1200
00:57:53,295 --> 00:57:55,341
We now just have
to connect these dots.
1201
00:57:57,474 --> 00:57:59,824
Almost as important
as what we eat
1202
00:57:59,867 --> 00:58:01,695
is how we move.
1203
00:58:01,739 --> 00:58:04,306
It's a key part of the lifestyle medicine approach
1204
00:58:04,350 --> 00:58:05,525
to overall health.
1205
00:58:08,310 --> 00:58:11,052
EDWARD PHILLIPS:
We're here at the Boston VA.
1206
00:58:11,096 --> 00:58:13,533
I often see people
with osteoarthritis
1207
00:58:13,577 --> 00:58:15,492
of the knees and the hips,
1208
00:58:15,535 --> 00:58:16,884
and I will say to them,
1209
00:58:16,928 --> 00:58:20,932
"Let me explain the physics
of what's going on.
1210
00:58:20,975 --> 00:58:22,760
"Your leg muscles
are relatively weak.
1211
00:58:22,803 --> 00:58:24,501
"I've just determined that.
1212
00:58:24,544 --> 00:58:26,546
"You're carrying
around more weight,
1213
00:58:26,590 --> 00:58:27,852
"which has a multiplier effect
1214
00:58:27,895 --> 00:58:29,810
"because of the physics
of how we walk."
1215
00:58:29,854 --> 00:58:31,246
And by then,
the person's saying,
1216
00:58:31,290 --> 00:58:33,901
"So if I were
to lose a few pounds
1217
00:58:33,945 --> 00:58:35,860
"and get my legs stronger,
1218
00:58:35,903 --> 00:58:37,818
"my knees would hurt less."
1219
00:58:37,862 --> 00:58:40,386
They've just written themselves
a lifestyle prescription.
1220
00:58:44,042 --> 00:58:46,044
If they take
my exercise prescription,
1221
00:58:46,087 --> 00:58:48,220
I'm actually obligated
to warn them...
1222
00:58:48,263 --> 00:58:50,309
-That your blood sugar...-That your blood sugars may drop
1223
00:58:50,352 --> 00:58:52,790
if you're on a medication
for, you know, a little bit.
1224
00:58:52,833 --> 00:58:55,575
Facetiously, I'll start
to list the side effects.
1225
00:58:55,619 --> 00:58:58,491
"You're going to live longer
so save your money.
1226
00:58:58,535 --> 00:59:00,014
"You're going to reduce
your incidence
1227
00:59:00,058 --> 00:59:02,364
"of several dozen cancers."
1228
00:59:02,408 --> 00:59:03,583
It goes on and on.
1229
00:59:04,279 --> 00:59:06,630
The federal guidelines
1230
00:59:06,673 --> 00:59:08,501
based on lots of research
1231
00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:12,331
are simply a 150 minutes
per week.
1232
00:59:12,374 --> 00:59:14,594
And then, the only other thing is twice a week
1233
00:59:14,638 --> 00:59:15,943
of resistance training,
1234
00:59:15,987 --> 00:59:17,554
something where you're stressing your muscles.
1235
00:59:22,863 --> 00:59:24,256
DAVID SABGIR:
Walking will reduce
1236
00:59:24,299 --> 00:59:26,780
your risk of heart attack
by 50 percent.
1237
00:59:26,824 --> 00:59:30,175
If you can do
150 minutes a week, so...
1238
00:59:30,218 --> 00:59:32,177
Better than any drug
that we know.
1239
00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:36,442
On the flip side,
I'm having 5 percent
of my patients
1240
00:59:36,485 --> 00:59:38,662
reach these 150 minutes a week.
1241
00:59:38,705 --> 00:59:39,880
Hi, David.
1242
00:59:39,924 --> 00:59:41,316
-How are you, sir?
-Good.
1243
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,581
So, I would spend a lot of time talking with patients
1244
00:59:44,624 --> 00:59:46,626
about how they can be active,
1245
00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:48,976
and it turned out
when the patients came back
1246
00:59:49,020 --> 00:59:51,326
I wasn't moving
the needle at all.
1247
00:59:51,370 --> 00:59:54,721
One day I said,
"How about if my family
and I were at the park?
1248
00:59:54,765 --> 00:59:57,419
"Would you like
to walk with a doc?"
1249
00:59:57,463 --> 00:59:59,726
You guys are crazy.
It's freezing out here.
1250
00:59:59,770 --> 01:00:03,817
Our first Walk with a Doc event was April 9th of 2005.
1251
01:00:03,861 --> 01:00:06,298
We had 101, our first day,
1252
01:00:06,341 --> 01:00:08,256
and it's only grown since then.
1253
01:00:12,217 --> 01:00:13,653
-Good morning.
-MAN: Hi, how are you doing?
1254
01:00:13,697 --> 01:00:16,177
-SABGIR: Good. How are you?
-MAN: My daughter...
1255
01:00:16,221 --> 01:00:19,093
It's so cold. I just need hugs.
1256
01:00:19,137 --> 01:00:21,966
So, I expect a lot more people
for 23 degrees.
1257
01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:23,750
-[ALL LAUGH]
-Let's walk!
1258
01:00:23,794 --> 01:00:25,970
[ALL TALKING INDISTINCTLY]
1259
01:00:27,493 --> 01:00:29,364
SABGIR: Everyone walks
at their own pace.
1260
01:00:32,629 --> 01:00:36,371
-We have 278 chapters.
-Two hundred and seventy eight.
1261
01:00:36,415 --> 01:00:39,157
And we have nine countries.
1262
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,333
There are many more
in development.
1263
01:00:44,118 --> 01:00:46,991
-Nice to meet you!
-[BOTH LAUGH]
1264
01:00:47,034 --> 01:00:48,688
-You came!
-Hi.
1265
01:00:48,732 --> 01:00:50,429
STANCIC: It was
an extraordinary surprise
1266
01:00:50,472 --> 01:00:52,344
to see this couple
at the Walk with a Doc.
1267
01:00:52,387 --> 01:00:54,389
-You look great.
-Oh, you do, too.
1268
01:00:54,433 --> 01:00:56,043
-I have to take a pic.
We have to take a picture.
-We gotta take a picture.
1269
01:00:56,087 --> 01:00:57,566
STANCIC: This young lady
whose husband
1270
01:00:57,610 --> 01:00:59,960
was diagnosed
with multiple sclerosis
1271
01:01:00,004 --> 01:01:02,702
sent me an email in March 2015.
1272
01:01:02,746 --> 01:01:04,704
I was...
1273
01:01:04,748 --> 01:01:06,924
She was in tears
every single day.
1274
01:01:06,967 --> 01:01:09,100
The motivation that you gave...
1275
01:01:09,143 --> 01:01:10,710
STANCIC:
They were very frightened,
1276
01:01:10,754 --> 01:01:13,800
and I called her,
and I described
1277
01:01:13,844 --> 01:01:15,889
what a plant-based diet was,
1278
01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:19,327
and why I thoughtit was important in managing MS.
1279
01:01:19,371 --> 01:01:22,504
Every doctor,
we just heard negative things
1280
01:01:22,548 --> 01:01:25,290
that you know, he would be
in the wheelchair
1281
01:01:25,333 --> 01:01:28,772
-right the next moment.
-You're one of the very few
1282
01:01:28,815 --> 01:01:31,470
who actually told that
that's not gonna happen.
1283
01:01:31,513 --> 01:01:33,646
-WOMAN: Yeah, his last MRI
came out clean.
-MAN: Came out clean.
1284
01:01:33,690 --> 01:01:35,430
No lesions at all.
1285
01:01:35,474 --> 01:01:39,565
It started out with 16,
I got zero now.
1286
01:01:39,608 --> 01:01:41,219
-All gone.
-You keep at this.
1287
01:01:41,262 --> 01:01:42,916
-You keep at this.
-MAN: Yes.
1288
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,049
-Continue this lifestyle.
-MAN: Because this gives
me motivation.
1289
01:01:45,092 --> 01:01:46,746
-Now I see the results.
-WOMAN: Yeah.
1290
01:01:46,790 --> 01:01:48,617
-MAN: I see the results.
-And you share this
with other patients.
1291
01:01:48,661 --> 01:01:50,228
MAN: Yes, I will.
1292
01:01:50,271 --> 01:01:52,360
You have no idea the gift
you've given me today. [LAUGHS]
1293
01:01:54,406 --> 01:01:56,756
I walk with my patients.
I hike with my patients.
1294
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,279
I do yoga with my patients.
1295
01:01:58,323 --> 01:02:00,151
We practice meditation.
1296
01:02:01,065 --> 01:02:02,414
Does anybody want to dance?
1297
01:02:02,457 --> 01:02:04,068
STANCIC: When Kelly
first came to see me,
1298
01:02:04,111 --> 01:02:06,897
she was very scared,
very tearful.
1299
01:02:06,940 --> 01:02:12,511
2016, I had the second episode,
1300
01:02:12,554 --> 01:02:14,208
[VOICE SHAKING]
and it was so traumatic.
1301
01:02:15,557 --> 01:02:17,211
I really can't even
talk about it.
1302
01:02:18,865 --> 01:02:20,171
Thank you.
1303
01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:25,785
And I literally get as basic
as saying, "In, out."
1304
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:28,657
Dr. Stancic recommended
daily meditation
1305
01:02:28,701 --> 01:02:31,791
and that has made
a huge difference.
1306
01:02:31,835 --> 01:02:34,446
STANCIC: Gently bring your palmstogether in prayer,
1307
01:02:34,489 --> 01:02:36,491
close at heart's center.
1308
01:02:36,535 --> 01:02:38,755
ORNISH: Lifestyle medicine,
people often go straight
to diet.
1309
01:02:38,798 --> 01:02:40,191
Of course, diets important,
1310
01:02:40,234 --> 01:02:41,801
but at least as important
1311
01:02:41,845 --> 01:02:44,761
are the psychosocial, emotional
and spiritual dimensions.
1312
01:02:44,804 --> 01:02:46,763
STANCIC: Breath in,
breath out.
1313
01:02:46,806 --> 01:02:48,373
KIM WILLIAMS:
I remember Dean Ornish saying
1314
01:02:48,416 --> 01:02:50,941
that we really need to include
meditation and mindfulness,
1315
01:02:50,984 --> 01:02:52,943
and I said, "Dean,
is there really any data?"
1316
01:02:52,986 --> 01:02:55,815
I should have done
that search engine thing first.
1317
01:02:55,859 --> 01:02:58,383
[LAUGHS]
So, massive amount of data.
1318
01:02:58,426 --> 01:03:00,777
Reducing heart attacks, stroke, blood pressure,
1319
01:03:00,820 --> 01:03:02,866
uh, variety of endpoints.
1320
01:03:06,260 --> 01:03:09,350
Stress-management techniques
are really important.
1321
01:03:11,570 --> 01:03:14,878
MAN: The three weeks
that I've been on this program
with the yoga
1322
01:03:14,921 --> 01:03:16,880
brought more love
into my family.
1323
01:03:16,923 --> 01:03:18,620
So that's beautiful to hear.
1324
01:03:18,664 --> 01:03:20,840
Studies are showing
that six months
after a heart attack,
1325
01:03:20,884 --> 01:03:23,625
those that are depressed
are four times more likely
1326
01:03:23,669 --> 01:03:24,975
to be dead
than those that aren't.
1327
01:03:25,018 --> 01:03:27,064
Independent of their diet,
their smoking,
1328
01:03:27,107 --> 01:03:29,240
any other kinds of behaviors.
Fourfold.
1329
01:03:29,283 --> 01:03:30,328
It's so easy
to make fun of this.
1330
01:03:30,371 --> 01:03:31,720
"Oh, it's so touchy-feely."
1331
01:03:31,764 --> 01:03:33,244
When people say that,
I get defensive.
1332
01:03:33,287 --> 01:03:35,159
I say, "No, no, look at
our quantitative arteriograms,
1333
01:03:35,202 --> 01:03:38,031
"and cardiac positron
emission tomography,"
and blah, blah, blah.
1334
01:03:38,075 --> 01:03:40,991
One day I said,
"You know, it is touchy feely."
1335
01:03:41,034 --> 01:03:42,296
That's what makes it work
so well.
1336
01:03:42,340 --> 01:03:43,689
We are touchy feely creatures.
1337
01:03:43,732 --> 01:03:45,256
That's how we've survived
as a species
1338
01:03:45,299 --> 01:03:48,259
by learning to nurture and love
and care for each other.
1339
01:03:48,302 --> 01:03:51,697
They have a place
where people can let down
their emotional defenses,
1340
01:03:51,740 --> 01:03:53,481
and talk openly
and authentically
1341
01:03:53,525 --> 01:03:55,483
about what's really going on
in their lives.
1342
01:03:55,527 --> 01:03:58,530
It's incredibly meaningful,
and if it's meaningful
then it's sustainable.
1343
01:03:58,573 --> 01:04:01,011
Having a heart attack
six weeks ago...
1344
01:04:02,490 --> 01:04:03,883
Wow.
1345
01:04:03,927 --> 01:04:06,494
Everything came into full focus.
1346
01:04:06,538 --> 01:04:09,149
I wanted very much
to stay alive.
1347
01:04:18,942 --> 01:04:20,508
MARK: Between the commercials
on the radio
1348
01:04:20,552 --> 01:04:23,381
and the golden arches
that you see
when you're driving,
1349
01:04:23,424 --> 01:04:26,123
it's so easy to medicate
yourself with fast food
1350
01:04:26,166 --> 01:04:27,776
or whatever the case may be.
1351
01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:30,127
Then some left turns here
and there along the way...
1352
01:04:30,170 --> 01:04:33,130
I'm not perfect and, uh,
my heart's in the right place,
1353
01:04:33,173 --> 01:04:34,958
and I'm looking to take it
to the next level.
1354
01:04:35,001 --> 01:04:39,788
You're right. The world
is sort of, um, out there
1355
01:04:39,832 --> 01:04:42,008
to get us to purchase
these foods,
1356
01:04:42,052 --> 01:04:46,926
so we have to be extraordinary
in the world as it is today.
1357
01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:48,797
MARK: You're shifting
your thought processes
1358
01:04:48,841 --> 01:04:51,670
and just keep driving
by the fast food places
without turning in.
1359
01:04:57,676 --> 01:04:59,547
Atta boy.
1360
01:04:59,591 --> 01:05:01,114
Good boy, Griffo.
1361
01:05:01,158 --> 01:05:02,942
Sometimes I wish I could get
into a time machine
1362
01:05:02,986 --> 01:05:04,944
and go back
to Dr. Stancic's office.
1363
01:05:04,988 --> 01:05:07,294
I wish I had made
better choices.
1364
01:05:07,904 --> 01:05:08,948
Sup, partner?
1365
01:05:10,297 --> 01:05:13,213
Back in December,
I suffered a stroke.
1366
01:05:13,257 --> 01:05:14,519
Uh...
1367
01:05:14,562 --> 01:05:16,956
They said it was a small,
but acute stroke,
1368
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,480
that's left me with numbness
in my left foot
and my left hand.
1369
01:05:19,524 --> 01:05:22,483
Like pins and needles
and stiffness in the arm
in general.
1370
01:05:23,180 --> 01:05:24,398
And also in my foot.
1371
01:05:24,442 --> 01:05:26,444
It's worse on some days
than others
1372
01:05:26,487 --> 01:05:28,141
where it feels
like you're walking
1373
01:05:28,185 --> 01:05:31,318
on a piece of wood or something.
1374
01:05:31,362 --> 01:05:34,582
I believe more and more
that plant-based
is the way to go.
1375
01:05:34,626 --> 01:05:36,062
It's just very hard,
1376
01:05:36,106 --> 01:05:38,108
even having been through
what I've been through.
1377
01:05:40,023 --> 01:05:41,459
STANCIC: You know, this idea of lifestyle medicine
1378
01:05:41,502 --> 01:05:44,027
and behavioral change
is a challenging one.
1379
01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:45,985
Sometimes even though patients
1380
01:05:46,029 --> 01:05:49,467
are well intended and they'll say, "I'm ready."
1381
01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:51,208
You're not quite there.
1382
01:05:51,251 --> 01:05:54,037
Mark is a great example
that lifestyle medicine
1383
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,690
is exactly that.
1384
01:05:55,734 --> 01:05:58,650
It's a lifestyle
that requires commitment.
1385
01:05:58,693 --> 01:05:59,912
[SIZZLING]
1386
01:05:59,956 --> 01:06:01,435
But in today's
fast-paced world,
1387
01:06:01,479 --> 01:06:03,872
it's not always easy
to stay on track.
1388
01:06:04,961 --> 01:06:06,832
KATZ:
Everything about our culture
1389
01:06:06,875 --> 01:06:10,575
conspires against the lifestyle medicine prescription.
1390
01:06:10,618 --> 01:06:12,229
This is fairly obvious.
1391
01:06:12,272 --> 01:06:15,188
Here's the part
that really worries me.
1392
01:06:15,232 --> 01:06:19,062
All too often
you see fast foods
in the hospital,
1393
01:06:19,105 --> 01:06:21,890
so let's serve food
on one floor of the hospital
1394
01:06:21,934 --> 01:06:23,631
that causes
the coronary disease,
1395
01:06:23,675 --> 01:06:26,852
and then the treatment
on another floor
of the same building.
1396
01:06:26,895 --> 01:06:28,767
We're basically profiting
1397
01:06:28,810 --> 01:06:32,292
from both causing disease
and treating disease.
1398
01:06:32,336 --> 01:06:35,034
You know what the leading sourceof revenue for any hospital
1399
01:06:35,078 --> 01:06:37,297
in the United States of America
is bypass surgery.
1400
01:06:38,385 --> 01:06:40,126
I hate to sound like
a pessimist,
1401
01:06:40,170 --> 01:06:42,302
but there's too much money
in the status quo.
1402
01:06:42,346 --> 01:06:45,088
And the resistance from institutional standpoint,
1403
01:06:45,131 --> 01:06:48,308
hospitals, the drug companies, the medical schools,
1404
01:06:48,352 --> 01:06:49,657
it's gonna be very, very strong.
1405
01:06:52,921 --> 01:06:54,749
STANCIC: You guys,
you wanna watch TV?
1406
01:06:56,229 --> 01:06:57,839
Even now, nearly a decade
1407
01:06:57,883 --> 01:07:00,320
after founding my own
lifestyle medicine practice,
1408
01:07:00,364 --> 01:07:01,974
I never stopped being amazed
1409
01:07:02,018 --> 01:07:04,933
by how much confusion
there is about what to eat.
1410
01:07:06,457 --> 01:07:09,373
Of course,
I can see why that's the case
1411
01:07:09,416 --> 01:07:12,115
every time I turn on the TV.
1412
01:07:13,942 --> 01:07:16,075
MAN 1: [ON TV]
Get ready to tip the scales.
1413
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:17,555
A trendy new
weight loss method...
1414
01:07:17,598 --> 01:07:20,949
My biggest weight loss program to date.
1415
01:07:20,993 --> 01:07:22,908
MAN 2:
Energize your weight loss
with more...
1416
01:07:22,951 --> 01:07:25,606
STANCIC: While doctors
have contributed
to the conversation,
1417
01:07:25,650 --> 01:07:28,305
they haven't always helped.
1418
01:07:28,348 --> 01:07:30,872
I have written
a weight loss book.
1419
01:07:30,916 --> 01:07:34,093
Anybody can write a book
and say anything,
1420
01:07:34,137 --> 01:07:36,922
and it can be
a New York Timesbestseller
1421
01:07:36,965 --> 01:07:39,707
even if there'sno scientific foundation for it.
1422
01:07:39,751 --> 01:07:44,408
Sometimes the crazier the idea,
the more attraction in gets.
1423
01:07:52,285 --> 01:07:55,810
GREGER: Putting butter
on the cover
ofTime or something
1424
01:07:55,854 --> 01:07:58,944
sells a lot of magazines,
but it really sells
the public short.
1425
01:08:10,260 --> 01:08:11,957
MCMACKEN:
There are messages all over
1426
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,525
that take scientific information
1427
01:08:14,568 --> 01:08:17,136
and either broadcast a study
1428
01:08:17,180 --> 01:08:18,964
that's very small
and not that important
1429
01:08:19,007 --> 01:08:21,488
or change the findings
of a study
1430
01:08:21,532 --> 01:08:24,012
such that it's something that people want to read about,
1431
01:08:24,056 --> 01:08:28,756
and it really contributes
to people's misunderstandings
around food.
1432
01:08:30,062 --> 01:08:34,066
Physicians know so little
about nutrition,
1433
01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:37,156
and we're susceptible
to the same societal messages
1434
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,810
that everyone else gets.
1435
01:08:38,853 --> 01:08:42,030
So, physicians
are equally confused
1436
01:08:42,074 --> 01:08:43,902
as everyone else out there.
1437
01:08:49,299 --> 01:08:52,650
STANCIC: These students
represent the future.
1438
01:08:52,693 --> 01:08:56,871
BAUTISTA: Every student that comes across lifestyle medicine
1439
01:08:56,915 --> 01:09:00,266
they get so motivated.
They're like,
"This is what I want to do."
1440
01:09:00,310 --> 01:09:03,269
-Thank you.
-[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
1441
01:09:03,313 --> 01:09:04,792
This chronic illness epidemic,
1442
01:09:04,836 --> 01:09:06,707
how do we turn this tide?
1443
01:09:07,969 --> 01:09:10,320
MCMACKEN:
For every one serving a day
1444
01:09:10,363 --> 01:09:12,365
of a fruit or a vegetable,
1445
01:09:12,409 --> 01:09:14,019
studies show
that you can decrease your risk
1446
01:09:14,062 --> 01:09:17,283
of coronary heart disease
by 4 percent,
just think about that.
1447
01:09:17,327 --> 01:09:19,764
BAUTISTA: Over the past year,
the Lifestyle Medicine
Interest Group
1448
01:09:19,807 --> 01:09:22,375
made so many connections
with physicians
1449
01:09:22,419 --> 01:09:25,335
that are coming not only
to speak at our lectures,
1450
01:09:25,378 --> 01:09:27,424
but they're bringing us
to their practices
1451
01:09:27,467 --> 01:09:30,122
and showing us
how they practice
lifestyle medicine.
1452
01:09:30,166 --> 01:09:33,299
Showing us techniques
and methodologies.
1453
01:09:33,343 --> 01:09:35,954
How to exercise, proper lifts.
1454
01:09:35,997 --> 01:09:38,478
MAN: Arms are long,
bend your knees...
1455
01:09:38,522 --> 01:09:41,351
So that way you can teach
your patients how to do it.
1456
01:09:41,394 --> 01:09:44,876
WOMAN: Let's try it out.
The other person can row.
1457
01:09:44,919 --> 01:09:47,139
We even have
a culinary medicine workshop.
1458
01:09:47,183 --> 01:09:48,445
No, we don't have
a teaching kitchen,
1459
01:09:48,488 --> 01:09:49,924
so we sort of made our own.
1460
01:09:49,968 --> 01:09:51,883
[INDISTINCT CONVERSATION]
1461
01:09:54,407 --> 01:09:56,714
-MAN 1: Keep it down.
-MAN 2: Yeah, I know,
but cover your fingers.
1462
01:09:59,151 --> 01:10:00,283
RICH WOLFERZ JR.:
I got into medicine
1463
01:10:00,326 --> 01:10:01,719
because I want
to keep people healthy.
1464
01:10:01,762 --> 01:10:04,069
If you wanna really help
sick people,
1465
01:10:04,112 --> 01:10:05,679
you prevent them
from ever becoming sick.
1466
01:10:07,507 --> 01:10:08,726
That looks beautiful.
1467
01:10:11,163 --> 01:10:12,382
BAUTISTA:
We were just in class,
1468
01:10:12,425 --> 01:10:15,080
and we just memorized
50 different drugs.
1469
01:10:15,123 --> 01:10:17,474
And that was to say, "Oh,
this patient's hypertensive,
1470
01:10:17,517 --> 01:10:19,258
"these are the drugs
you prescribe."
1471
01:10:19,302 --> 01:10:21,434
Not once did we talk about,
1472
01:10:21,478 --> 01:10:24,089
"Hey, let's modify
that patient's diet.
1473
01:10:24,132 --> 01:10:26,309
"Let's try to get them
on an exercise program."
1474
01:10:26,352 --> 01:10:29,268
We never talked
about that for treatment,
1475
01:10:29,312 --> 01:10:32,140
but we did talk about
the 50 drugs
that we had to learn.
1476
01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:37,842
ADELMAN: If you're going
to medical school,
1477
01:10:37,885 --> 01:10:40,801
and you know you're going to come out with $400,000 of debt,
1478
01:10:40,845 --> 01:10:43,195
what specialties
are you gonna think about?
1479
01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:45,458
You're gonna think about
big-ticket-item specialties
1480
01:10:45,502 --> 01:10:48,244
that allow you
to pay that debt back.
1481
01:10:48,287 --> 01:10:50,333
It's a rational
economic decision.
1482
01:10:50,376 --> 01:10:53,292
Those are
the procedural specialties.
1483
01:10:53,336 --> 01:10:57,383
That's where
the financial rewards
are in medicine.
1484
01:10:57,427 --> 01:11:00,299
The financial aspect
is a hugely important one.
1485
01:11:01,126 --> 01:11:03,346
If I spend 25 minutes
1486
01:11:03,389 --> 01:11:06,218
counseling someone
about plant-based nutrition,
1487
01:11:06,262 --> 01:11:08,220
the hospital will get
reimbursed the same
1488
01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:11,615
as if I spend three minutes
and wrote them a prescription.
1489
01:11:11,658 --> 01:11:15,488
So right now,
the system is not geared
1490
01:11:15,532 --> 01:11:18,012
to make it financially viable.
1491
01:11:18,796 --> 01:11:20,450
Big pharma plays a role
1492
01:11:20,493 --> 01:11:22,582
in medical education
and practice.
1493
01:11:22,626 --> 01:11:25,106
Uh, you know,
when's the last time,
1494
01:11:25,150 --> 01:11:28,458
uh, you know, your doctor
was taken out to dinner
by big broccoli.
1495
01:11:28,501 --> 01:11:29,676
It's probably been a while.
1496
01:11:32,853 --> 01:11:34,377
POPPER:
The pharmaceutical industry
1497
01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:37,205
absolutely runs
the healthcare industry.
1498
01:11:37,249 --> 01:11:39,947
It's incredibly insidious.
1499
01:11:39,991 --> 01:11:42,036
The American Academy
of Pediatrics,
1500
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,647
American College of Cardiology,
1501
01:11:43,690 --> 01:11:46,084
they're all supported
by the drug companies.
1502
01:11:46,127 --> 01:11:47,346
Appearing at the conferences
1503
01:11:47,390 --> 01:11:48,826
and supporting
these organizations,
1504
01:11:48,869 --> 01:11:50,915
gets their drugs sold.
1505
01:11:53,570 --> 01:11:55,223
Take a look
at any medical school,
1506
01:11:55,267 --> 01:11:56,790
it's part of a complex.
1507
01:11:56,834 --> 01:12:00,054
You got hospitals and research and all that sort of thing.
1508
01:12:00,098 --> 01:12:02,143
Who funds all that?
1509
01:12:02,187 --> 01:12:06,060
Let's be honest.
Medical schools are run
by Pharmageddon.
1510
01:12:06,104 --> 01:12:08,367
ESSELSTYN: It's really
a national embarrassment
1511
01:12:08,411 --> 01:12:11,239
that our medical schools
are totally missing out
1512
01:12:11,283 --> 01:12:14,373
on the strongest tool
in our toolbox.
1513
01:12:14,417 --> 01:12:17,420
I hope every administrator
at every medical school
1514
01:12:17,463 --> 01:12:19,552
-just heard you.
-[BOTH LAUGHING]
1515
01:12:21,249 --> 01:12:23,600
EISENBERG:
As long as physicians
and hospitals
1516
01:12:23,643 --> 01:12:25,123
make money or save money
1517
01:12:25,166 --> 01:12:28,082
by having more
and better diagnostic tests,
1518
01:12:28,126 --> 01:12:30,302
surgical procedures,
1519
01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:33,392
if money is made
by the more they do,
1520
01:12:33,436 --> 01:12:36,613
then what's the incentive
of helping people
prevent disease
1521
01:12:36,656 --> 01:12:39,572
or alter the course
of their disease
1522
01:12:39,616 --> 01:12:42,270
through enhanced diet,
exercise,
1523
01:12:42,314 --> 01:12:44,055
mindfulness,
and behavior change.
1524
01:12:44,098 --> 01:12:45,404
So in order for us to change
1525
01:12:45,448 --> 01:12:47,406
the curriculum
in medical schools,
1526
01:12:47,450 --> 01:12:50,278
we're gonna have to change
the financial incentives,
it's essentially...
1527
01:12:50,322 --> 01:12:52,280
I think that's part
of the solution.
1528
01:12:53,107 --> 01:12:54,370
Sadly.
1529
01:13:00,071 --> 01:13:02,726
STANCIC: I mean, it's money.
1530
01:13:02,769 --> 01:13:05,381
I mean, everybody has
to make a living.
I get it, but...
1531
01:13:07,905 --> 01:13:11,082
Physicians,
that doesn't apply to us
1532
01:13:11,125 --> 01:13:14,346
that finances,
that shouldn't be part
1533
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:16,304
of the decision-making process.
1534
01:13:16,348 --> 01:13:18,045
That we don't...
That we always act
1535
01:13:18,089 --> 01:13:20,047
in the best interest
of our patients.
1536
01:13:20,091 --> 01:13:21,745
It has nothing to do with money,
1537
01:13:21,788 --> 01:13:24,835
that was my naive thinking
when I started this film.
1538
01:13:26,140 --> 01:13:27,359
Uh...
1539
01:13:45,856 --> 01:13:48,598
I've been trying
to figure out why
1540
01:13:48,641 --> 01:13:50,730
I got a little bit emotional.
1541
01:13:52,340 --> 01:13:55,474
Maybe it's because we're gettingtowards the end of this journey.
1542
01:13:55,518 --> 01:13:57,650
You know, the questions
that I wanted answered,
1543
01:13:57,694 --> 01:14:00,392
or have they been answered?
1544
01:14:00,436 --> 01:14:04,918
And maybe the answer is not
the one I wanted to get.
1545
01:14:07,573 --> 01:14:10,446
I think that
it's much more complicated
1546
01:14:12,535 --> 01:14:14,624
than just financial incentives,
you know?
1547
01:14:14,667 --> 01:14:16,234
There's no physician
in this country
1548
01:14:16,277 --> 01:14:19,759
that's sitting around going,
"Yes, another diabetic."
1549
01:14:19,803 --> 01:14:23,807
What I do believe isthat physicians don't know this,
1550
01:14:23,850 --> 01:14:25,286
because they're not taught it,
1551
01:14:25,330 --> 01:14:29,856
and I lay the blame completely
on the medical school.
1552
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:32,468
Finances shouldn't be
the incentive
1553
01:14:32,511 --> 01:14:34,687
to teach the right thing,
to teach the truth,
1554
01:14:34,731 --> 01:14:37,516
to teach what is best
for communities
1555
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,475
and for health,
and for well-being
1556
01:14:39,518 --> 01:14:43,391
for the entire country,
the globe.
1557
01:14:43,435 --> 01:14:46,264
How about we change
'cause it's the right thing
to do?
1558
01:14:46,307 --> 01:14:48,745
How about we change
because the evidence
is overwhelming?
1559
01:14:48,788 --> 01:14:50,964
How about we change
because we're scientists
and we're physicians,
1560
01:14:51,008 --> 01:14:53,750
and we want to... we want
to deliver the best care.
1561
01:14:53,793 --> 01:14:55,447
When we know better,
we do better.
1562
01:14:55,491 --> 01:14:58,537
Yes, maybe we didn't know
things in the past,
but we know today.
1563
01:15:00,452 --> 01:15:02,367
Okay, so maybe I'm pissed.
1564
01:15:02,410 --> 01:15:04,543
PILOT: [OVER PA SYSTEM]
Glad to have you
on board with us.
1565
01:15:04,587 --> 01:15:06,414
We're currently
up to 33,000 feet,
1566
01:15:06,458 --> 01:15:08,591
expecting a mostly
smooth ride here.
1567
01:15:08,634 --> 01:15:10,506
We're gonna turn off
that seatbelt sign.
1568
01:15:10,549 --> 01:15:12,682
Please feel free
to move about as necessary,
1569
01:15:12,725 --> 01:15:14,727
however, while you are seated, we do ask that you...
1570
01:15:14,771 --> 01:15:17,251
STANCIC: I knew there were some medical schools out there
1571
01:15:17,295 --> 01:15:18,905
like Stanford University
1572
01:15:18,949 --> 01:15:21,995
offering a lifestyle medicine
non-credit elective.
1573
01:15:23,431 --> 01:15:25,346
But when I heard
about a medical school
1574
01:15:25,390 --> 01:15:28,524
that includes
lifestyle medicine
from day one,
1575
01:15:28,567 --> 01:15:30,569
I had to see it for myself.
1576
01:15:33,964 --> 01:15:35,400
JENNIFER TRILK:
We teach lifestyle medicine
1577
01:15:35,443 --> 01:15:37,184
across all four years
of the curriculum.
1578
01:15:38,359 --> 01:15:39,709
I think we're one
of the only schools
1579
01:15:39,752 --> 01:15:41,885
that incorporates it
as a core curriculum
1580
01:15:41,928 --> 01:15:44,670
so as a requirement for all
of the students to go through.
1581
01:15:44,714 --> 01:15:47,455
What are some
pro-inflammatory foods?
1582
01:15:47,499 --> 01:15:49,806
-FEMALE STUDENT: Sugar.
-TRILK: Sugar. Excellent.
1583
01:15:51,459 --> 01:15:55,507
We have 49 teaching hours
of lifestyle medicine
1584
01:15:55,551 --> 01:15:57,596
in the first two years,
1585
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,339
and I work with my partners in their third and fourth year
1586
01:16:01,382 --> 01:16:04,298
on how to practice it
in the clinics
1587
01:16:04,342 --> 01:16:06,300
when they get over
to the delivery system.
1588
01:16:06,344 --> 01:16:07,954
There are more studies
coming out showing
1589
01:16:07,998 --> 01:16:10,391
that sugar is addictive
in the prefrontal cortex,
1590
01:16:10,435 --> 01:16:12,393
and they're actually comparing
it to cocaine in some...
1591
01:16:12,437 --> 01:16:13,873
PAUL CATALANA:
We have a lot of interest.
1592
01:16:13,917 --> 01:16:18,574
We have just this past year
over 4,200 applications.
1593
01:16:18,617 --> 01:16:20,837
I think a lot of that
has been driven
1594
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,361
by the uniqueness
of our curriculum.
1595
01:16:23,404 --> 01:16:24,797
NATALIE: When I learned
about the school
1596
01:16:24,841 --> 01:16:26,059
and heard
that lifestyle medicine
1597
01:16:26,103 --> 01:16:27,495
was such a huge component,
1598
01:16:27,539 --> 01:16:29,106
that was a really big draw
for me.
1599
01:16:29,149 --> 01:16:32,631
Personally, that was
one of my deciding factors.
1600
01:16:35,634 --> 01:16:38,071
TRILK: The teaching kitchen
gives students
1601
01:16:38,115 --> 01:16:41,553
the hands-on ability to take
what they've learned
1602
01:16:41,597 --> 01:16:43,947
from the classroom
and apply it.
1603
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:45,949
CHEF SCOTT: Hi, guys, welcome.
1604
01:16:45,992 --> 01:16:47,385
We're gonna teach you
how to cook.
1605
01:16:47,428 --> 01:16:49,256
We're gonna teach you
how to deal with nutrition.
1606
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:51,737
STANCIC: Chef Scott eats
a plant-based diet.
1607
01:16:51,781 --> 01:16:53,826
He also is a tri-athlete.
1608
01:16:53,870 --> 01:16:55,785
CHEF SCOTT: All your pots
and grains are on top
1609
01:16:55,828 --> 01:16:58,352
as well as most
of your tongs and spoons.
1610
01:17:02,313 --> 01:17:04,968
BIANCA: Currently, I'm on a lifestyle medicine rotation,
1611
01:17:05,011 --> 01:17:07,840
and the entire rotation
is showing people
1612
01:17:07,884 --> 01:17:12,062
how to eat, what to eat,
when to eat, how much to eat.
1613
01:17:12,105 --> 01:17:14,281
Really to help impact
their overall health.
1614
01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:22,202
If only you could smell
this right now. Unreal.
1615
01:17:29,035 --> 01:17:30,558
[BOTH LAUGHING]
1616
01:17:30,602 --> 01:17:31,647
TAYLOR LUCAS: Success.
1617
01:17:31,690 --> 01:17:33,561
If medical school
doesn't work out,
1618
01:17:33,605 --> 01:17:35,433
-I guess we kind of have
a backup plan.
-FEMALE STUDENT: Yeah, you do.
1619
01:17:35,476 --> 01:17:36,956
Mm, wow.
1620
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,350
-[LAUGHING] Yeah.
-It's very good.
1621
01:17:41,265 --> 01:17:42,962
ALISON LEHANE:
You wanna try some, Dr. Trilk?
1622
01:17:43,006 --> 01:17:45,661
I'll tell a friend,
she's at a different
medical school,
1623
01:17:45,704 --> 01:17:47,793
and they'll be like "Oh.
1624
01:17:47,837 --> 01:17:50,274
"Well, why don't we do that?
That makes so much sense."
1625
01:17:50,317 --> 01:17:53,756
Um, and I think for us
it's kind of like
1626
01:17:53,799 --> 01:17:55,496
we can't imagine school
without it.
1627
01:17:55,540 --> 01:17:58,717
It's just so much
a part of our curriculum
that I mean...
1628
01:17:58,761 --> 01:18:00,937
It wouldn't make sense
not to do it.
1629
01:18:00,980 --> 01:18:03,722
Hopefully, other schoolswill start doing the same thing.
1630
01:18:26,005 --> 01:18:28,268
UMA RAMAN:
The garden got started
two years ago
1631
01:18:28,312 --> 01:18:30,662
by two, now, third years,
1632
01:18:30,706 --> 01:18:32,751
because they realized
the access
1633
01:18:32,795 --> 01:18:34,840
to fruits and vegetables
in this community
1634
01:18:34,884 --> 01:18:36,407
was very scarce.
1635
01:18:37,538 --> 01:18:39,453
It's cool
because it's food access,
1636
01:18:39,497 --> 01:18:41,978
but it's also a way
of building that relationship
1637
01:18:42,021 --> 01:18:43,457
between physician and community.
1638
01:18:45,024 --> 01:18:46,722
How do you guys
eat vegetables?
1639
01:18:46,765 --> 01:18:48,898
-[SPEAKING SPANISH]
-Roasted.
1640
01:18:48,941 --> 01:18:51,465
My mother won't
do that, though.
1641
01:18:51,509 --> 01:18:54,642
What makes it hard to, like,
avoid certain fatty foods?
1642
01:18:54,686 --> 01:18:56,383
-MAN: It's so cheap.
-WOMAN: Maybe price.
1643
01:18:56,427 --> 01:18:59,299
-It's everywhere, too.
-It's so cheap.
1644
01:18:59,343 --> 01:19:01,780
It's not like you can go
to the corner store
and just get vegetables.
1645
01:19:01,824 --> 01:19:06,437
-Right.
-We could get like,
five things for $2 at least.
1646
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,440
RAMAN: It's really frustrating
how easy it is
to get terrible food
1647
01:19:09,483 --> 01:19:11,659
and how hard it is
to just get a tomato.
1648
01:19:16,055 --> 01:19:18,318
[ALL LAUGHING]
1649
01:19:21,321 --> 01:19:22,932
BAUTISTA:
The Lifestyle Medicine
Interest Group,
1650
01:19:22,975 --> 01:19:24,324
it's wonderful,
1651
01:19:24,368 --> 01:19:26,152
but it's all student-driven.
1652
01:19:26,196 --> 01:19:29,155
We do everything.
The marketing, the research.
1653
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:30,940
We designed the curriculum.
1654
01:19:32,637 --> 01:19:35,422
All this is funded through
the students own money.
1655
01:19:35,466 --> 01:19:37,250
They don't get any funding
from the school.
1656
01:19:37,294 --> 01:19:38,643
This is something that's great.
1657
01:19:38,686 --> 01:19:40,297
This is something
that helps everyone.
1658
01:19:40,340 --> 01:19:42,299
Why aren't you supporting us?
1659
01:19:54,267 --> 01:19:55,878
THOMAS PACE:
The Medical Roots Garden
1660
01:19:55,921 --> 01:19:59,359
came together shortly after
the school was formed.
1661
01:19:59,403 --> 01:20:03,189
The school has funding
to support gardening equipment,
1662
01:20:03,233 --> 01:20:06,236
plants, tools, composting.
1663
01:20:06,279 --> 01:20:08,499
And the students
get together with faculty
1664
01:20:08,542 --> 01:20:11,154
and plant in the fall,
plant again in the spring,
1665
01:20:11,197 --> 01:20:13,504
and prepare the beds each year.
1666
01:20:13,547 --> 01:20:15,462
STANCIC:
We still have a ways to go
1667
01:20:15,506 --> 01:20:18,161
educating our next generation
of healthcare professionals.
1668
01:20:20,076 --> 01:20:23,209
But some of our hard work
is already bearing fruit.
1669
01:20:23,253 --> 01:20:24,863
MONTGOMERY:
We've been practicing
culinary medicine
1670
01:20:24,907 --> 01:20:27,474
for about 12 years.
It evolved to a point
1671
01:20:27,518 --> 01:20:29,085
where now, we're
a full-fledged restaurant,
1672
01:20:29,128 --> 01:20:31,000
we do shopping rounds and so on.
1673
01:20:31,043 --> 01:20:33,350
The restaurant is available
to the general public.
1674
01:20:33,393 --> 01:20:35,178
We are on UberEATS.
1675
01:20:35,221 --> 01:20:37,441
During lunch time,
we may have a full house,
1676
01:20:37,484 --> 01:20:39,530
especially when
we visit a clinic.
1677
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,276
[WOMAN SPEAKING SPANISH]
1678
01:20:49,757 --> 01:20:51,281
STANCIC: Your mom's very proud
of you, I'm sure,
1679
01:20:51,324 --> 01:20:52,804
because you're making
a difference
1680
01:20:52,848 --> 01:20:54,893
-in so many patients' lives.
-MONTGOMERY: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
1681
01:20:54,937 --> 01:20:56,764
And that's a beautiful thing.
1682
01:21:02,031 --> 01:21:03,467
Folks will ask me,
1683
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:06,383
"When was the first time
you felt better?"
1684
01:21:06,426 --> 01:21:08,385
And I can't really say when,
1685
01:21:08,428 --> 01:21:10,604
but there is one day
that I remember well,
1686
01:21:10,648 --> 01:21:12,780
and it was
a really special day.
1687
01:21:12,824 --> 01:21:14,957
July 2, 2005.
1688
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,960
And my husband and I
attended a wedding.
1689
01:21:18,003 --> 01:21:19,570
And I did two things
on this day
1690
01:21:19,613 --> 01:21:22,094
that I hadn't done
in more than a decade.
1691
01:21:22,138 --> 01:21:24,967
I wore heels,
and I danced with my husband.
1692
01:21:25,010 --> 01:21:28,013
You can tell by my smile
that I was pretty happy.
1693
01:21:34,237 --> 01:21:37,718
I was just pulling up MRIs
from the past.
1694
01:21:37,762 --> 01:21:41,635
This is the second one
I had in 1996,
1695
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:44,334
and here I have ten
deep white matter lesions.
1696
01:21:51,167 --> 01:21:53,343
This was 1999.
1697
01:21:53,386 --> 01:21:55,911
You know, I had forgotten
I had all these films.
1698
01:21:58,522 --> 01:22:00,741
This one's 20 years old.
This is 1996.
1699
01:22:00,785 --> 01:22:02,700
The more recent ones
are on the desk,
1700
01:22:02,743 --> 01:22:05,485
but this just goes to show
how old I am.
1701
01:22:07,792 --> 01:22:10,099
The one I remember most,
of course, is the first one.
1702
01:22:13,102 --> 01:22:14,625
In the winter of 2014,
1703
01:22:14,668 --> 01:22:17,280
this is the national MS magazinethat came out,
1704
01:22:17,323 --> 01:22:19,804
and I saw this Diet and MS
on the cover.
1705
01:22:20,674 --> 01:22:23,068
So, wow, I turned to the page,
1706
01:22:23,112 --> 01:22:28,378
and I read about this physician
in Oregon, Vijay Yadav,
1707
01:22:28,421 --> 01:22:31,120
and, um,
she had done a clinical study
1708
01:22:31,163 --> 01:22:34,601
looking at a whole-food,
plant-based diet essentially.
1709
01:22:34,645 --> 01:22:36,995
This is really
the first neurologist
I've come across
1710
01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:39,215
that is
a legitimate neurologist,
1711
01:22:39,258 --> 01:22:40,651
mainstream,
1712
01:22:40,694 --> 01:22:43,349
but also understands
1713
01:22:43,393 --> 01:22:48,354
that this lifestyle thing
is important, too.
1714
01:22:51,140 --> 01:22:54,404
My last MRI
was over five years ago.
1715
01:22:54,447 --> 01:22:55,927
Today, I'm going
to have another
1716
01:22:55,971 --> 01:22:58,190
before my trip to Oregon
in a couple of weeks
1717
01:22:58,234 --> 01:22:59,757
to meet Dr. Yadav.
1718
01:23:02,716 --> 01:23:05,197
Oh, my God. What am I doing?
1719
01:23:05,241 --> 01:23:07,721
I feel like I'm driving
off to my execution.
1720
01:23:07,765 --> 01:23:09,071
[CHUCKLES]
1721
01:23:17,775 --> 01:23:19,168
Oh, my gosh.
1722
01:23:21,039 --> 01:23:23,128
My first MRI in 1995
1723
01:23:23,172 --> 01:23:27,263
was physically
and emotionally traumatic.
1724
01:23:27,306 --> 01:23:30,570
So, it's never easy for me
to return for another one.
1725
01:23:42,104 --> 01:23:43,714
Have a good day. Good luck.
1726
01:23:43,757 --> 01:23:45,020
Love you. Bye.
1727
01:23:46,673 --> 01:23:48,327
One more blueberry
for the road.
1728
01:23:56,988 --> 01:23:59,164
I had one final stop
on my journey.
1729
01:23:59,208 --> 01:24:02,994
My consultation
with Dr. Vijay Yadav.
1730
01:24:03,038 --> 01:24:05,431
A neurologist
who recognizes the potential
1731
01:24:05,475 --> 01:24:08,043
of lifestyle in managing
multiple sclerosis.
1732
01:24:09,348 --> 01:24:12,177
I was looking forward
to what she had to say,
1733
01:24:12,221 --> 01:24:17,878
but also nervous about what
my latest MRI would show.
1734
01:24:17,922 --> 01:24:19,097
-VIJAYSHREE YADAV:
Oh, my God. Hi.
-STANCIC: Oh, my God.
1735
01:24:19,141 --> 01:24:20,794
It's so nice to meet you.
1736
01:24:20,838 --> 01:24:23,667
-So nice to see you.
-Oh, my gosh.
I brought you some films.
1737
01:24:23,710 --> 01:24:24,929
Oh, very nice.
1738
01:24:24,972 --> 01:24:26,626
This is 1996.
1739
01:24:30,674 --> 01:24:35,287
[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]
1740
01:24:35,331 --> 01:24:38,638
YADAV: I'm looking at...Maybe you had someenhance adhesion there actually.
1741
01:24:50,041 --> 01:24:52,652
Let me just pull up
this image here.
1742
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:00,138
This is a brain MRI
that I just had done
a couple of weeks ago.
1743
01:25:00,182 --> 01:25:01,139
Mm-hmm.
1744
01:25:07,537 --> 01:25:09,669
These white spots,
they're not normal.
1745
01:25:09,713 --> 01:25:11,106
STANCIC:
So that's a lesion there?
1746
01:25:11,149 --> 01:25:12,759
YADAV: That's right.
So, this one and this one.
1747
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,849
It's just like a residual...
1748
01:25:15,893 --> 01:25:18,983
STANCIC: There is evidence
of old scars and lesions
from my past.
1749
01:25:19,026 --> 01:25:20,767
YADAV: It's not causing
any damage,
1750
01:25:20,811 --> 01:25:23,857
-but nothing
to be worried about.
-Okay.
1751
01:25:23,901 --> 01:25:28,471
STANCIC: I was relieved
to learn there were
no new lesions.
1752
01:25:28,514 --> 01:25:31,300
YADAV: So, 21 years
into your disease process,
1753
01:25:31,343 --> 01:25:33,389
I would say you've done
very well.
1754
01:25:33,432 --> 01:25:36,174
-I think it looks
very positive.
-Okay.
1755
01:25:36,218 --> 01:25:39,177
I mean, again, it's all about
the unpredictability in MS
that we see,
1756
01:25:39,221 --> 01:25:40,396
-you know, nobody can say...
-We don't know.
1757
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,833
I think you're fine
based upon this MRI,
1758
01:25:42,876 --> 01:25:44,748
plus how you've done.
1759
01:25:44,791 --> 01:25:47,838
There's a huge component
of what we do to ourselves.
1760
01:25:47,881 --> 01:25:49,666
Lifestyle medicine,
plant-based medicine.
1761
01:25:49,709 --> 01:25:51,015
You can continue
what you're doing
1762
01:25:51,058 --> 01:25:53,191
as long as
you're being monitored.
1763
01:25:53,235 --> 01:25:56,455
STANCIC: It was amazing
to hear a neurologist tell me
1764
01:25:56,499 --> 01:25:57,978
to continue what I was doing.
1765
01:26:02,331 --> 01:26:05,203
I'm not cured.
I mean, I live with MS,
1766
01:26:05,247 --> 01:26:08,685
but I manage it by taking
really good care of myself.
1767
01:26:11,949 --> 01:26:13,951
Every single day I meditate.
1768
01:26:13,994 --> 01:26:16,127
Every single day I exercise.
1769
01:26:16,171 --> 01:26:19,174
Every single day
I eat optimally.
1770
01:26:22,046 --> 01:26:24,527
I am so grateful to be here.
1771
01:26:24,570 --> 01:26:28,748
Now more than 20 years
since my diagnosis,
1772
01:26:28,792 --> 01:26:32,056
and I am medication-free,
disability-free,
1773
01:26:32,099 --> 01:26:34,363
and empowered
more than ever before
1774
01:26:34,406 --> 01:26:36,887
to share my healing message
with the world.
1775
01:26:48,333 --> 01:26:52,163
This is something
that has been talked about
since the inception,
1776
01:26:52,207 --> 01:26:55,253
I think, of ACLM back in 2004.
1777
01:26:55,297 --> 01:26:58,038
The long awaited,
long anticipated
1778
01:26:58,082 --> 01:27:01,694
certification in the field
of lifestyle medicine.
1779
01:27:01,738 --> 01:27:04,697
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
1780
01:27:04,741 --> 01:27:08,092
STANCIC: For me, Amy is an extraordinary story.
1781
01:27:08,135 --> 01:27:11,095
She's not only applied
these things to herself,
1782
01:27:11,138 --> 01:27:15,142
but now, she is sharing
this with her patients.
1783
01:27:15,186 --> 01:27:17,275
AMY: Patients who come in
with gallbladder disease,
1784
01:27:17,319 --> 01:27:19,190
with constipation.
1785
01:27:19,234 --> 01:27:20,409
I treat a lot of hemorrhoids,
1786
01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:23,542
and so I have always said
1787
01:27:23,586 --> 01:27:26,023
to use an over-the-counter
fiber supplement.
1788
01:27:26,066 --> 01:27:28,286
And, I'm never gonna say
that ever again.
1789
01:27:28,330 --> 01:27:29,461
I'm gonna say you can.
1790
01:27:29,505 --> 01:27:31,289
However, I'm gonna show them
1791
01:27:31,333 --> 01:27:34,379
how to get fiber
into their diet,
1792
01:27:34,423 --> 01:27:37,339
so I have a lot more to say
to my patients now.
1793
01:27:39,297 --> 01:27:43,083
I joined the American College
of Lifestyle Medicine,
1794
01:27:43,127 --> 01:27:46,130
and this coming fall
I plan on sitting
1795
01:27:46,173 --> 01:27:48,828
and becoming board certified
in lifestyle medicine.
1796
01:27:59,578 --> 01:28:02,538
WOLFERZ JR.:
I wanna welcome everyone
to our kickoff event
1797
01:28:02,581 --> 01:28:04,627
for a Walk with a Doc, Newark.
1798
01:28:04,670 --> 01:28:07,369
It took a long time,
a good year
that we were working on this.
1799
01:28:07,412 --> 01:28:09,022
We knew this was such
a great program.
1800
01:28:09,066 --> 01:28:10,763
We need this in Newark.
1801
01:28:10,807 --> 01:28:12,896
WOMAN: We need to think
about prevention
1802
01:28:12,939 --> 01:28:14,854
starting in our communities.
1803
01:28:15,855 --> 01:28:18,293
Your persistence is inspiring,
1804
01:28:18,336 --> 01:28:19,772
and I'm getting emotional.
1805
01:28:19,816 --> 01:28:22,775
With leaders like you guys,
the future's so bright.
1806
01:28:29,129 --> 01:28:31,871
BAUTISTA: My dream
is to come back
to Rutgers Medical School
1807
01:28:31,915 --> 01:28:36,441
and be a professor
in a lifestyle medicine
department,
1808
01:28:36,485 --> 01:28:40,315
training the next generation
of physicians to do this.
1809
01:28:40,358 --> 01:28:41,446
-[BOTH LAUGH]
-They don't know it yet
1810
01:28:41,490 --> 01:28:43,318
but that's
my little secret goal.
1811
01:28:59,421 --> 01:29:01,248
KELLY: I have
a ten-year-old son,
1812
01:29:01,292 --> 01:29:06,123
and I would do anything
to stay healthy for him.
1813
01:29:06,166 --> 01:29:09,387
Hi, I'm Charles,
and I'm making vegan crepes.
1814
01:29:09,431 --> 01:29:11,650
Really it would be eggs,
1815
01:29:11,694 --> 01:29:14,261
but we're using
flaxseed instead.
1816
01:29:14,305 --> 01:29:16,394
She has MS,
and she's doing that,
1817
01:29:16,438 --> 01:29:19,354
that way she can stay healthy
and have a good life.
1818
01:29:19,397 --> 01:29:21,138
KELLY: That's good enough.
That's good.
1819
01:29:21,181 --> 01:29:23,053
STANCIC: Family support
is crucial to patients
1820
01:29:23,096 --> 01:29:25,403
who are making changes
to their lifestyle.
1821
01:29:25,447 --> 01:29:27,013
Because if they don't have
the buy in
1822
01:29:27,057 --> 01:29:31,017
from the people around them, it can become very challenging.
1823
01:29:31,061 --> 01:29:32,584
But often the patient's family
1824
01:29:32,628 --> 01:29:35,674
also makes changes
in their diet and activity.
1825
01:29:35,718 --> 01:29:37,154
They benefit, too.
1826
01:29:40,462 --> 01:29:41,811
Good.
1827
01:29:43,552 --> 01:29:45,554
STANCIC: I've seen Kelly evolve
1828
01:29:45,597 --> 01:29:47,033
to where she is today.
1829
01:29:47,077 --> 01:29:48,774
Um, confident.
1830
01:29:48,818 --> 01:29:51,255
Um, positive.
1831
01:29:51,298 --> 01:29:52,996
Uh, empowered.
1832
01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:56,652
And I want that
for all of my patients.
1833
01:29:56,695 --> 01:29:59,611
KELLY: I felt very powerless
with this diagnosis,
1834
01:29:59,655 --> 01:30:01,831
and Dr. Stancic
has given me power.
1835
01:30:01,874 --> 01:30:02,919
All right.
1836
01:30:02,962 --> 01:30:05,965
I have power over my life,
1837
01:30:06,009 --> 01:30:08,533
over my health, over my MS.
1838
01:30:23,069 --> 01:30:24,419
STANCIC: Oddly enough,
1839
01:30:24,462 --> 01:30:26,856
I am grateful to my MS
1840
01:30:26,899 --> 01:30:29,249
as it served to awaken
something within me
1841
01:30:29,293 --> 01:30:32,165
that I now hope
will serve others.
1842
01:30:32,209 --> 01:30:33,776
I am grateful every day
1843
01:30:33,819 --> 01:30:36,126
for Dr. Stancic
sharing her story.
1844
01:30:36,169 --> 01:30:38,258
Because if she hadn't shared it,
1845
01:30:38,302 --> 01:30:40,173
I don't know
where I would be today.
1846
01:30:40,217 --> 01:30:42,959
I am happy and healthy
which is ironic
1847
01:30:43,002 --> 01:30:46,353
that it took the diagnosis of MS
1848
01:30:46,397 --> 01:30:49,879
to get me to where I am today.
1849
01:30:49,922 --> 01:30:52,011
STANCIC: Our mission
to change the medical culture
1850
01:30:52,055 --> 01:30:55,101
of our doctors,
patients and academia
1851
01:30:55,145 --> 01:30:58,627
is still far from over,
but we are well on our way.
1852
01:31:00,193 --> 01:31:03,370
I'm proud of the strides
our field has already made.
1853
01:31:03,414 --> 01:31:05,851
It's illustrated by the work
of the many experts
1854
01:31:05,895 --> 01:31:07,636
we visited on my journey.
1855
01:31:07,679 --> 01:31:10,769
-And then,
put in good soil on top.
-Okay.
1856
01:31:10,813 --> 01:31:12,641
Every day,
I witnessed examples
1857
01:31:12,684 --> 01:31:14,904
of this growing movement
on full display.
1858
01:31:14,947 --> 01:31:17,863
-Start right up,
I'll try to do it.
-What a smart guy.
1859
01:31:17,907 --> 01:31:19,517
STANCIC:
Undeniable mounting evidence
1860
01:31:19,561 --> 01:31:21,780
that progress and awareness
1861
01:31:21,824 --> 01:31:25,523
is spreading across
our country and beyond.
1862
01:31:25,567 --> 01:31:28,483
We have this huge lapse
in medical education,
1863
01:31:28,526 --> 01:31:31,007
and we believe the solution
is lifestyle medicine.
1864
01:31:31,050 --> 01:31:32,225
It should be the foundation
1865
01:31:32,269 --> 01:31:33,923
on which we build
everything else.
1866
01:31:39,015 --> 01:31:42,758
Medicine as we know it today
is going to become extinct.
1867
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,283
The conversation has shifted.
1868
01:31:46,326 --> 01:31:48,590
Changes are seen
in society now.
1869
01:31:48,633 --> 01:31:52,202
More plant-based options,
more information out there.
1870
01:31:52,245 --> 01:31:53,595
We're reaching a tipping point.
1871
01:31:54,596 --> 01:31:55,858
MAN: Tomorrow morning,
1872
01:31:55,901 --> 01:31:58,730
we have yoga
by the lake at 7:00 a.m.
1873
01:32:00,906 --> 01:32:02,168
BARNARD: It's our time.
1874
01:32:02,212 --> 01:32:03,561
I think it's our time
1875
01:32:03,605 --> 01:32:06,346
because we have more tools
than ever before.
1876
01:32:06,390 --> 01:32:09,480
I think it's our time
because young people
are getting excited.
1877
01:32:09,524 --> 01:32:11,830
I think it's our time
because we have no choice.
1878
01:32:13,136 --> 01:32:15,355
It is up to each of us
to make our own decisions
1879
01:32:15,399 --> 01:32:17,009
as to what to eat
and how to live.
1880
01:32:17,053 --> 01:32:19,490
We should make these choices
consciously educating ourselves
1881
01:32:19,534 --> 01:32:22,449
about the predictable
consequences of our actions.
1882
01:32:22,493 --> 01:32:24,582
MCMACKEN: You have the power.
1883
01:32:24,626 --> 01:32:26,845
You actually have the power.
It's in your hands
1884
01:32:26,889 --> 01:32:31,546
to prevent diabetes,
to prevent heart disease,
to prevent cancer.
1885
01:32:31,589 --> 01:32:34,984
ESSELSTYN:
I want to end the day
with a Tibetan proverb.
1886
01:32:35,027 --> 01:32:38,378
Eat half, walk double,
1887
01:32:38,422 --> 01:32:40,337
laugh triple,
1888
01:32:40,380 --> 01:32:42,208
and love without measure.
Thank you.
1889
01:32:42,252 --> 01:32:43,601
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
1890
01:33:00,575 --> 01:33:03,186
STANCIC: I'm not saying
changing your diet
1891
01:33:03,229 --> 01:33:04,753
is going to cure
all your ailments.
1892
01:33:06,406 --> 01:33:09,714
Or that we need to throw away
all the medications,
1893
01:33:09,758 --> 01:33:11,194
and all the proce...
1894
01:33:11,237 --> 01:33:13,326
all those amazing advances
that we have in medicine.
1895
01:33:13,370 --> 01:33:14,371
That's not what I'm saying.
1896
01:33:18,157 --> 01:33:21,378
Lifestyle is important
for anybody
1897
01:33:21,421 --> 01:33:22,945
whether you're healthy,
1898
01:33:22,988 --> 01:33:25,556
whether you're old,
whether you're young.
1899
01:33:27,340 --> 01:33:30,474
We should all be eating
in a healthful way.
1900
01:33:30,517 --> 01:33:32,171
We shouldall be incorporating physical...
1901
01:33:32,215 --> 01:33:34,783
No matter where you are
on that spectrum
or where you...
1902
01:33:34,826 --> 01:33:37,002
It's going to benefit you
in some way.
1903
01:33:42,225 --> 01:33:44,749
It was more than 20 years ago
when doctors predicted
1904
01:33:44,793 --> 01:33:46,751
that I'd likely be
in a wheelchair by now.
1905
01:33:49,711 --> 01:33:52,235
I'm glad I found it
within myself
1906
01:33:52,278 --> 01:33:53,845
to prove them wrong.
1907
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:08,485
STANCIC: Diet, nutrition,
exercise, stress,
1908
01:35:08,528 --> 01:35:09,834
all the things
that we talk about
1909
01:35:09,878 --> 01:35:12,619
in lifestyle medicine
are relevant,
1910
01:35:12,663 --> 01:35:15,927
and that's what all the experts
have told us, right?
1911
01:35:15,971 --> 01:35:17,799
But what I believe
to be true is that
1912
01:35:17,842 --> 01:35:19,801
if physicians change,
1913
01:35:19,844 --> 01:35:22,412
then we all change.
1914
01:35:22,455 --> 01:35:24,066
Healthcare professionals,
because we are
1915
01:35:24,109 --> 01:35:25,720
the representatives
of health in the community.
1916
01:35:25,763 --> 01:35:28,331
That catalyst,
that first domino...
1917
01:35:29,898 --> 01:35:31,421
is medicine, physicians,
1918
01:35:31,464 --> 01:35:33,902
because that's what...
that's what we're here for.
1919
01:35:33,945 --> 01:35:35,425
We have to be expert
1920
01:35:35,468 --> 01:35:37,775
in diagnosing disease
and treating it,
1921
01:35:37,819 --> 01:35:41,213
and we have all this technology
and advances, that's wonderful.
1922
01:35:41,257 --> 01:35:43,302
But my goodness,
if we could potentially...
1923
01:35:43,346 --> 01:35:44,826
We know that
we could potentially prevent
1924
01:35:44,869 --> 01:35:46,610
80 percent of chronic disease,
1925
01:35:46,653 --> 01:35:48,612
that has to be
our primary initiative.
1926
01:35:48,655 --> 01:35:51,571
We can all do this.
We can do this
in our little offices.
1927
01:35:51,615 --> 01:35:53,312
We can do in our communities.
1928
01:35:53,356 --> 01:35:57,099
We can give a little lecture
in the local library
1929
01:35:57,142 --> 01:35:58,665
but spread this message.
1930
01:35:58,709 --> 01:36:00,798
You don't have to be vegan.
1931
01:36:00,842 --> 01:36:02,757
You don't have to,
like, run a marathon.
1932
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,149
Just do this.
1933
01:36:04,193 --> 01:36:05,411
Eat more plants.
1934
01:36:05,455 --> 01:36:08,110
Move. Breathe.
1935
01:36:08,153 --> 01:36:10,112
Slow down. Simple things, right?
1936
01:36:10,155 --> 01:36:11,330
We're addressing our diet.
1937
01:36:11,374 --> 01:36:13,289
We're addressing
our physical activity.
1938
01:36:13,332 --> 01:36:14,638
We're addressing our stress.
1939
01:36:14,681 --> 01:36:15,944
Breathe. Slow down.
1940
01:36:15,987 --> 01:36:19,382
We can start a movement
by just small things.
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