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John George ha was the serial killer
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from middle England who killed the
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middle class he had no compunction and
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no conscience whatsoever about killing
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people to obtain his ends the sludge at
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the bottom of the barrels in which he's
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dissolved these poor people is poured
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down the drains you know he's literally
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obliterating an entire family I was just
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a young boy in the late 194 40s but I
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can remember the name John George hay as
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if it were yesterday the newspaper
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headlines were sensationalist from
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Vampire horror to modernday Dracula but
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the one that was to stick was the Acid
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Bath murderer so was John George ha a
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callous fraudster or a killer Out For
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Blood
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I'm Fred Dage and I've been reporting
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serious crimes for more than 40 years
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now as a journalist and a television
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reporter as the official biographer to
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the cray twins I know that when it comes
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to Crime the myth can actually take over
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from the reality of what actually
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happened John George ha's crimes were
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some of the most shocking ever seen in
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Britain driven by greed he killed six
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people disposing of their bodies in an
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appalling manner plunging the victims
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into Vats of acid he left no trace of
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their
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remains John George ha was born in 1909
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in Stanford Lincolnshire he was well-
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loved by his parents and was an only
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child child he had a relatively isolated
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upbringing well I'm Keen to talk to
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experts and key Witnesses with an
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in-depth knowledge of the hate case
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sadly of course many of the key
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characters have now passed away but I
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have managed to track down a man with a
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keen interest in hag David briffett in
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the 1980s David spent a lot of time
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interviewing key Witnesses and wrote a
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book about hag's atrocities
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David this is amazing because this is
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the very court room in which hag was
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tried and convicted what turn this
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apparently well educated and religious
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man do you think to
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Crime well I have a theory about Mr hag
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and I'm pretty sure that he wanted to
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assume the lifestyle of other people
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that he admired and the reason for that
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can be traced right back to his very
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strange childhood um his parents were
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members of the Plymouth Brethren um and
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he was deprived of many things they
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didn't celebrate Christmas and
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eventually when he discovered the
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outside world he rather liked it and he
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wanted to be part of it and he was
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prepared to go to more or less any
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lengths to obtain that better
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lifestyle at the age of 10 hay won a
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musical scholarship to a Catholic School
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in Wakefield even at such a young age he
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was described by his teachers as
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mischievous what led him then into a
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life of
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crime well um there's evidence to show
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that when he was at school um he was
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very
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secretive um he enjoyed playing tricks
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on people and he learned very early that
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he could Forge people's signatures and
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he used to forge the the signatures of
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teachers and he got a lot of pleasure
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out of that having these secrets and
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then he gradually moved into Petty crime
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and into
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forgery I want to know how hag's early
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life of crime led him to become a
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killer Professor David Wilson is a
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leading criminologist and he's taken an
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in-depth look at the crimes ha
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committed so tell us about the fraud I
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mean how did he get into that what what
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what was his motivation there well he
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left school uh age 17 and worked for a
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little while in a blue collar job but
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very quickly transferred into white
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collar work and he first comes to the
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attention of the court or to the police
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because he tries to fraudulently sell
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cars that don't belong to him so the
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motivation psychologist criminologist
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would say his motivations were extrinsic
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they were outside of his own personality
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his motivation in other words was simply
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to make money but of course he had the
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most convincing Manner and he could talk
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anyone around to do anything he was a
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wonderful salesman he could charm the
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birds out of the trees he always dressed
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very well he liked the best
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suits uh he had BR creamed hair that was
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flat but he had the most penetrating
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sparkling blue eyes which many many
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people noticed in
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1934 hag used his Charming manner to
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persuade people to purchase V vehicles
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that didn't exist it wasn't long before
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the money was rolling in hag wrote many
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letters documenting his early life and
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his atrocities he said I discovered
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there were easier ways to make a living
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than to work long hours in an office I
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did not ask myself whether I was doing
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right or wrong that seemed to be
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irrelevant I merely said this is what I
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wish to do he always I I think reading
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through the lines felt slightly outside
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of the culture to which he belonged and
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so a lot of his life it would seem was
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about playing a part so he always wanted
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to had drive fast cars to Loop the part
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to be fashionable to have money he often
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gives the impression of trying to live
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above his means ha quickly discovered
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that crime didn't pay his car scam was
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uncovered he was imprisoned for 15
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months at Leeds as sizes on his release
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he was soon back to what he considered
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to be his profession fraud one of his
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major frauds was committed in s and in
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Sussex in fact he opened three offices
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as a solicitor he never was a solicitor
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of course but he opened three offices
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one in Chantry Lane in London one in
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Guilford in s and one in Hastings in
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Sussex and he called himself William cat
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Adamson and he had some wonderful headed
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Note Paper printed and then he began
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placing advertisements in local
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newspapers offering uh shares for sale
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shares that supposedly had come from the
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Estates of deceased persons and he was
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offering them at slightly below the
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market rate and of course people were
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very attracted to that and began sending
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in checks to this solicitor uh HG lived
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very well off the checks however he was
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caught out because on one of his headed
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note papers he had misspelled the word
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Guilford and he had left out the D in
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the middle and one of the prospective
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purchasers spotted that went to the
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police didn't think a solicitor would
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make a basic error like that and hag was
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arrested as a result of that error well
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according to court records hag was
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imprison three times between 1934 and
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1943 for theft and fraud but prison life
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didn't dampen his desire to make money
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he knew if he was to become a part of
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high societ Society then he'd have to
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learn how to commit the perfect
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crime hag's time in prison was far
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removed from the lavish lifestyle he
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aspired to he thought himself a class
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above the petty criminals that he was
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now rubbing shoulders
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with I'm about to meet a man who knows
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what life is like in Britain's toughest
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prisons Bobby cumins was convicted of
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armed robbery and manslaughter he now
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runs a charity called unlock which helps
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ex offenders and he knows at firsthand
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the experiences you pick up from being
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around hardened criminals if you're in
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prison and you want to leave crime
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behind it can be a great place for
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rehabilitation if like H um you were a
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prolific offender if you like you you
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had it in you you wanted to learn about
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crime greatest University in the world
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is prison because there you can Network
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there's there people there with
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different skills so he would have been
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planning um his next move in prison hag
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learned about the crimes committed in
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France in
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1925 by the double murderer Sur to avoid
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capture Sur disposed of the bodies ins
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sufuri acid ha learned a great deal
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about the the British legal system while
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he was in prison thanks to books from
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the prison Library brought to him by the
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Padre but more importantly he learned
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about the uses of sulfuric acid from the
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prison library books too so he learned a
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great deal about crime and a great deal
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about assets he would have been told the
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weakest link is your victim cuz in
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especially in fraud your face is going
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up it's not like if you're an arm robber
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and you're putting a mask over your face
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or anything like that with fraud its
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front on so therefore the victim can
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identify you in ID parades in
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photographs that sort of thing so if
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you're at the fraud game there's nine
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out of 10 odds that you're actually
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going to get nicked for the offense so
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they what have said to him the weakest
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link is is is your victims and in any
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criminality what you you got to do is
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eliminate the weakest link ha began
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formulating a Sinister plan one he would
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put into action on the day of his
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release but to prepare he needed the
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assistance of fellow prisoners and
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access to sulfuric
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acid it was during his time in Lincoln
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prison that he was given a position in
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the tinsmith factory there he gained
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access to sulfuric acid he wanted to
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discover if like suray he could dissolve
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bone and tissue he used to bribe other
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prisoners with small amounts of tobacco
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these prisoners were allowed outside the
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Prison Walls during the day and they
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would bring dead field mice back into
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the prison for hag and hag also stole
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small amounts of sulfuric acid from the
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stores and obviously while the waters
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weren't watching he would line up the
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jars on a workbench fill each jar with a
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small amount of acid and then drop a
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mouse into each jar and then very
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patiently would sit and watch to see how
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long it would take a mouse to
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disintegrate in a certain amount of
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sulfuric acid so in other words he
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worked out a scientific formula which he
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thought maybe later he could apply to a
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human being and all he wanted was the
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opportunity I think that's an
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interesting thing this one piece will
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make 52 layers watch on mobile devices
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or the big screen all for free no
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subscription
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required I'm Fred Dage and I'm examining
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the life of John George ha he was known
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as the Acid Bath murderer because of the
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horrific way he disposed of his
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victims in 1941 John George ha was
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serving a sentence for theft in Lincoln
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prison it was his third spell in prison
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but hay was determined that when he was
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released he would make money from a life
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of crime no one would stand in his way
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but it's still quite a leap isn't it
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from from fraud to murder it is a big
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leap but again the motivation for hag
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simply seems to be an extension of the
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frauds that he committed earlier uh in
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the 1930s and earlier in the 1940s but
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essentially he wants to make money ha
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left prison and began looking for a
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wealthy victim to exploit a chance
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meeting at the goat Pub in Kensington
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presented him with the opportunity he'd
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been looking for William mwan had
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employed hag as his chauffer back in the
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1930s they'd become friends but lost
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touch when hag went looking for other
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work how close was hag then to mawan and
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vice versa well John hag and William
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mawan were both the same age and they
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got on very well and for a period they
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became quite close friends uh hag
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certainly uh admired young M Swan's
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lifestyle because he used to collect the
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rents of the six mwan properties in West
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London and I think Hy watched him do
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this job and realized that he was
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obtaining quite a nice sum of money
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every week that his family lived on and
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he wanted that lifestyle hay regaled his
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old boss with Tales of his own recent
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business ventures although he'd actually
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been in prison over the next few days
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they would meet several more times hag
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was just waiting for the perfect moment
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to put the plans he'd hatched in prison
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into action ha said he had an
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engineering Workshop mwan said he had
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some pinball machines that he wanted
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repaired and hag said he would do the
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work and he invited mwan down to the
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basement no one truly knows what
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happened to William mawan hag's own
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account calls that his old friend asked
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him to look at a pinball machine with
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his head bent hay pulled out a metal bar
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and killed William mawan with several
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heavy
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blows hay was left with the body of his
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murdered friend using the skills he'd
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learned in prison he dumped his first
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victim in acid it sto an an old drum
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from an old wartime bomb site and he got
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the body of MW into the oil drum and
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then he began the ma business of filling
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it with acids in order to protect Hag
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from the acids he uh developed a very
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sophisticated uniform which consisted of
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a of a large rubber rain coat um rubber
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gloves that came up to his elbows uh
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long thigh length wer boots and on top
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of that he had an old Leathers butcher's
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apron and to protect his nose and his
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eyes and his mouth from the fumes of the
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acid he stole a wartime gas mask so you
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can imagine this figure must have been a
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very very Sinister sight indeed not easy
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to lift people and put them in Vats of
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of acid is it no it it isn't easy at all
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and so there's obviously some
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physiological strength that he needs as
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well as the psychological strength to be
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able to go through the process that he
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would go through and that does seem to
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me to take a certain type of mentality a
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certain type of psychology to be able to
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do so that ability to
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compartmentalize his life seems to me to
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be quite extraordinary and in hag's case
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is one of the consistent features of his
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behavior the first
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murder how momentous would that have
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been for him how difficult what you're
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talking about now is a Comm man who's
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glib tonged sve sophisticated knows his
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trade now you're going into murder
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totally different Bull game killing
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another human being is one thing being
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able to dispose of the body as another
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and be able to come to terms with that
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now if you can come to terms with that
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once you've done one half a dozen ain't
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too many hag had successfully killed and
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disposed of his friend's body the
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problem he now faced was covering up M
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Swan's disappearance he went and saw his
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victim's parents and told them their son
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had fled to Scotland to avoid
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conscription naturally they were upset
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but they had no reason to disbelieve
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hag's story it was a mistake which was
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to cost them their lives hey began to
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befriend William M Swan's parents his
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trusting manner Charmed the couple into
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employing him as a rent collector it was
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the job that their son had been doing
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before his disappearance the money he
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made from them afforded him a good life
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hag's intention was to get hold of the
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mwan properties and he obviously
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discovered that the Deeds of all the
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properties were in the names of the two
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senior M wans and it was in
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1945 that he invited Donald mwan to come
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down to the basement and the story was
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that their son was making a surprise
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visit back from Scotland and would be
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reunited with the father in the
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basement it was a dreadful trick to play
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on this old man
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uh within a few minutes of Donald mwan
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arriving in the basement he was killed
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with an iron bar across the back of the
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head and only uh an hour or so so later
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he then invites Amy mwan to come down to
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the basement and he kills her in the
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same fashion and he had two oil drum
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standing side by side ready to dispose
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of a husband and wife in a single
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weekend no one knows just what Amy M
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Swan saw when she walked into hag's Lair
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did she see her husband dead in front of
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her perhaps she never made it that far
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whatever happened hay left that
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Workshop
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alone we never ever discover what
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happens to the MC swans because the
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sludge at the bottom of the barrels in
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which he's dissolved these poor people
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is poured down the drains of London and
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goes into the toms you know he's
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literally oblit ating an entire family I
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find it hard to imagine just how one man
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could not only kill a whole family but
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then also make them disappear Professor
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David Wilson has invited me to witness a
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simple experiment to replicate just how
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effective hag's process
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was David tell us what we're seeing here
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well for any murderer to be successful
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he's got to get rid of the body and in
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controlled circumstances and using the
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lovely we're going to replicate the
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kinds of behavior that hag showed with
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his victims which we're going to use
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concentrated sulfuric acid not the body
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of a person but a piece of chicken and
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see how long it's going to take to
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dissolve which is of course what hay did
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with his
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victims now of course remember it's a
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microcosm so we've only got 2 lers of
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concentrated sulfuric acid
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hey had three carboys of sulfuric acid
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which literally a Carboy is 40 Gall so
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he has 12 gallons of this stuff uh
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because of course he's trying to get rid
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of a much bigger body than our small
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piece of chicken the process of
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purchasing sulfuric acid is the same
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today as it was in the 1940s you can
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only buy it from a licensed supplier and
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you need to give a clear reason for its
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use not a problem for a fraudster like
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hay he set himself up uh a bogus
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business uh called Union group
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engineering he hired a basement in the
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Gloucester Road in London which was
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supposedly his Workshop but he began to
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stockpile quantities of acids he bought
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these acids um by sending off letters
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and when he signed a letter it was from
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liaison officer John George ha and no
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questions were asked the delivery took
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place well the piece of chicken's been
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in there what five minutes and already
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it's appearing to if you like cook yes
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well it's going to burn this is the this
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is the process of how the the body fat
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will disappear how difficult would it
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have been for him do you imagine to do
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this for the first time with a with a
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human body oh incredibly difficult um
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most murderers when they start if you
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think of murder almost as a skill you
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well when you pick up a skill for the
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first time you're not very good at it
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and of course most murder are dealing
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with a range of emotions that they're
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going through when they have the control
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over their victim some of them might be
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excited some of them might be frightened
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some of them might be anxious but of
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course they're learning how to deal with
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somebody they've got in their complete
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and utter power as ha did the only
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people that kill on the SP of the moment
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are the sort of people that are domestic
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killers and we call that the Red Mist
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it's it's done in Anger they lose their
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faculties and they kill when you playing
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murder is is the systematic shutting
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down of your own Humanity if you like
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you know the same as when you're doing
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violence when you're doing violence for
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money what you've got to do you got to
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shut down every emotion every feeling
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everything about it's just that bit of
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work to be done and that's what he would
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have practiced while he was in prison is
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shutting off emotion you've got to be
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able to shut off emotion otherwise you
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couldn't do it after murdering the M
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swans hay forged their signatures and
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made people believe they immigrated to
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America America he then successfully
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sold off their assets allowing him to
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lead the lifestyle he aspired to nobody
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questioned the young charmer and he made
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himself just over
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£100,000 in today's money so now he's a
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wealthy
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man he he was for a period of some three
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years he lived off the mwan money uh and
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it amounted to several thousands of
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pounds which in today's money we think
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was probably about £100,000
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and he had a wonderful life for about 3
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years this was just what he was aiming
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at this was the lifestyle he'd been
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seeking from the beginning and he had
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achieved it ha was finally living the
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lifestyle he craved staying in exclusive
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hotels buying expensive cars and
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entertaining the upper classes with no
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other income his fortune quickly began
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to disappear he should have been able to
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survive comfortably on the money that
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he' got but he squandered it didn't he
519
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,000
yeah because easy come easy go he's got
520
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,760
£8,000 this time and he's spent that
521
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,000
well next time he'll get 12,000 there's
522
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,760
a recklessness to his behavior it's not
523
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,840
that he's complacent it's more that um
524
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,799
once he hasn't being caught once that
525
00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:18,400
metaphoric hand on the shoulder didn't
526
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,159
appear he begins to feel himself quite
527
00:23:21,159 --> 00:23:23,480
Invincible I suppose once you've got
528
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,279
away with one murder and then a second
529
00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:29,039
then a third how do you reverse how do
530
00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:32,000
you stop that behavior living the High
531
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,799
Life hag's greed meant he needed to find
532
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:38,640
another victim and kill
533
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,320
again I'm Fred Dage and I'm
534
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,080
investigating the crimes of John George
535
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,760
ha The Man known as the Acid Bath
536
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,360
murderer in 1946 he killed the three
537
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,240
members of the mawan family and disposed
538
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,760
of their bodies in acid their murders
539
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,400
had netted him a small fortune but the
540
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,799
money began to disappear almost as
541
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,760
quickly as his victims had he's very
542
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,440
interesting as a serial killer he's not
543
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,799
typical by any means for one he's
544
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:11,120
killing a very different group of people
545
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:14,039
he's killing wealthy middle class upper
546
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:16,279
middle class people people who are going
547
00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:18,360
to be missed because that's not the
548
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:21,000
common pattern of Serial killing in
549
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,960
Britain by 1947 the thousands hag had
550
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,240
made from killing the maans had been
551
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,480
blown on on his lavish lifestyle
552
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,080
overdrawn and being chased by creditors
553
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,279
he knew what he had to do he needed to
554
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,919
find new victims but he had another
555
00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:40,520
problem to deal with first he no longer
556
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,640
rented the workshop in London where he
557
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,000
carried out his previous killings he was
558
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,159
looking for a new quiet location that's
559
00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:50,799
exactly what he found here at Leopold
560
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:54,000
Road in Crawley he rented the workshop
561
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,720
and moved his acid raincoat gloves and
562
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,120
gas mask into to his new center of
563
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:01,880
operations now heg needed to find
564
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,600
particular types of victims to charm
565
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,039
they had to be wealthy and crucially the
566
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,840
sort of people who wouldn't be missed I
567
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,080
mean you've done time with fraudsters
568
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,480
you've known a lot of frauders what's
569
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,120
the technique that someone like hey uses
570
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,679
to if you like con is
571
00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:21,600
victims it's
572
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,200
charm um also it's I talked to a famous
573
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,799
fraudster once man and he was probably
574
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:30,399
one of the best in the world when I was
575
00:25:30,399 --> 00:25:33,520
in in prison and he millions of pounds
576
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,720
was involved and he said you can only
577
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,240
kind a greedy person he fed their ego
578
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,640
and and when you're talking about
579
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,520
comment comment they got massive egos
580
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,720
their s they really think that that they
581
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,440
can con the world and so to him he was
582
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600
feeding them the food they wanted I he
583
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,240
was stroking their ego and in return he
584
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,360
was robbing him he answered an ad for
585
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,039
the sale of a house in London he offered
586
00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:00,559
the wealthy owners the Henderson more
587
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,880
than the asking price telling them it
588
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,320
was
589
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,960
undervalued he he managed to get himself
590
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,880
into the company of a very fashionable
591
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,640
London couple named the Hendersons
592
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,720
Archie Henderson and Rose Henderson they
593
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,559
were quite wealthy they owned a block of
594
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:18,880
flats and they owned a small shop called
595
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760
the dolls Hospital in West London and
596
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,679
hag considered these to be ideal victims
597
00:26:24,679 --> 00:26:27,240
uh for for the Acid Bath and for him to
598
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,039
take over their Lifestyles he simply is
599
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:33,600
very good at trying to identify suitable
600
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,679
victims to bump off whom he will be able
601
00:26:36,679 --> 00:26:40,240
to use to gain more and more income hey
602
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,440
LED Archie Henderson to believe that he
603
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,919
was a successful businessman with an
604
00:26:44,919 --> 00:26:47,559
engineering company in Crawley he
605
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,960
proposed a joint venture and Henderson
606
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,000
agreed to visit hag's site on Leopold
607
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,399
road on the 12th of February 1948 John
608
00:26:57,399 --> 00:26:59,840
he he bought Archie Henderson to see his
609
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,480
new workshop here in Crawley they went
610
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,399
inside the workshop and when the
611
00:27:05,399 --> 00:27:08,279
unsuspecting Henderson turned his back
612
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:11,679
hay produced a revolver and shot him in
613
00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:13,559
the head the revolver had actually
614
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:15,799
belonged to Henderson himself and hag
615
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,720
had stolen it from the Henderson's flat
616
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600
uh he taught himself how to use it and
617
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080
within a second or two he had shot
618
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,279
Henderson dead he then went back to the
619
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,159
Metropol Hotel to tell Rose Henderson
620
00:27:29,159 --> 00:27:30,760
that her husband had been taken early in
621
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,840
Crawley and would she come up to see him
622
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,640
and without any question at all she
623
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,520
jumped into the car and was brought up
624
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,360
to Crawley supposedly to have a reunion
625
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,960
with her husband uh but within a few
626
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,159
seconds of her walking into the workshop
627
00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:46,919
she was shot dead too and for the second
628
00:27:46,919 --> 00:27:49,720
time in his career he had two oil drums
629
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,440
standing side by side ready to get rid
630
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320
of a husband and
631
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,039
wife as with his other victims hay
632
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,440
placed the bodies in the oil drums he
633
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,480
then pumped in sulfuric acid he went
634
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,159
away for the weekend and when he
635
00:28:07,159 --> 00:28:09,039
returned he was going to pour away the
636
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:12,760
sludge that had formed but there was a
637
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,679
problem the basement in London had a
638
00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:17,919
convenient drain down which he could
639
00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:19,960
dispose of the uh the residue of the
640
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,480
bodies when he moved to leopo Road in
641
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Crawley there was no drain and he had to
642
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,159
wheel the drums out of the Workshop into
643
00:28:29,159 --> 00:28:31,279
the the yard and it was a builder's yard
644
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:33,840
but it was full of rubble and he found a
645
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,720
nice corner where he could empty the
646
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,159
drums into the
647
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:41,039
rubble it's been an hour since Professor
648
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,039
Wilson began his experiment to replicate
649
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,159
how hag used sulfuric acid to liquefy
650
00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:49,919
his victim's
651
00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:53,960
bodies a murderer if he's organized and
652
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,080
successful gets rid of the body he hides
653
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,039
the body body he buries the body in
654
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,480
hag's case he wants to completely
655
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,840
obliterate the body now that's partly
656
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,919
because heg misunderstands This legal
657
00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:10,880
term called Corpus dele which means the
658
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,200
body of evidence heg misunderstands this
659
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,080
and thinks if there's no body as in the
660
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,919
body of evidence he can't be charged but
661
00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:21,559
of course that's his misunder
662
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,360
understanding of that phrase Corpus Dei
663
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,080
which simply means that there is
664
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,000
evidence a body of evidence to be able
665
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,480
to convict the culprit and what should
666
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,600
happen to this piece of chicken is what
667
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,360
did happen to hag's victims yes well
668
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,559
it's going to burn this is the this is
669
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:40,799
the process of how the the body fight
670
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,440
will disappear but remember this is part
671
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,720
of ha's misunderstanding of the
672
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
experiment ha thinks everything is going
673
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,960
to disappear there's going to be
674
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,480
literally nothing left whereas in fact
675
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,399
there is going to be a residue and it's
676
00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:56,279
that residue that's going to be very
677
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:59,120
important in bring bringing hag to
678
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,760
justice for now hag was still at large
679
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,279
he' pocketed over £200,000 in today's
680
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:09,519
money from the Henderson murders making
681
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,080
people believe they'd immigrated to
682
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,080
South
683
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,320
Africa once again he's in the money and
684
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080
once again he managed to spend the money
685
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,799
yes he made another nice nest egg out of
686
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,559
the the Henderson's money but whereas
687
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:27,919
the mwan money lasted three years years
688
00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:30,279
the Henderson money only lasted a year
689
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:32,360
as if his spending had accelerated at
690
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,120
quite a rate and he's in the red yet
691
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,240
again in 1949 and looking for another
692
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,480
victim for the Acid Bath at Crawley heg
693
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,480
had been a permanent resident at the
694
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,399
enlo court hotel in Kensington for
695
00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:49,679
several years surrounded by a variety of
696
00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,360
wealthy targets he just had to choose
697
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,399
his next victim flossy Franklin and her
698
00:30:55,399 --> 00:30:57,559
friend Sally were regular visit visitors
699
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,159
to the hotel their nephew Richard
700
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:03,000
Franklin remembers how they came face to
701
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840
face with the killer tell us about your
702
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,279
aunts and their relationship with the
703
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:09,440
onsl
704
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,679
called well my Aunt Irene known as
705
00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:17,919
flossy and Sally were very typical uh
706
00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:20,159
country women they would come up to
707
00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:22,159
London once a fortnite to do their
708
00:31:22,159 --> 00:31:24,760
shopping at harro's as you do and have
709
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,720
their hair done and they would spend the
710
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,159
weekend at the onow court hotel which
711
00:31:29,159 --> 00:31:30,720
was very comfortable they could feel at
712
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,039
home and the sort of people who went
713
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:34,080
there were similar people probably
714
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,159
people who were living on family trusts
715
00:31:37,159 --> 00:31:39,559
but um I mean it is significant this
716
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:41,799
because the money that they would have
717
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:43,919
was probably not as much as they would
718
00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:46,880
like to have had so I think it if a very
719
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,120
smooth Operator comes along and uh chats
720
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,279
them up and tells him about his uh
721
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:55,080
wonderful business opportunity and I
722
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,440
think they might have been thought it
723
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,720
was that's rather rather exciting
724
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,159
perhaps we can improve our income a
725
00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:03,360
little bit did your aunt ever say to you
726
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,559
that she'd had conversations with oh yes
727
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:07,840
yes he used to sit down and have tea
728
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,279
with them he was Charming he would go
729
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,919
around and obviously he was susing out
730
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:14,919
the field if serial killers had horns on
731
00:32:14,919 --> 00:32:17,039
their heads if they looked like the
732
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:20,480
devil you would avoid them but of course
733
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,120
if they're Charming if they're plausible
734
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,159
if they're
735
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:25,919
entertaining then of course you're going
736
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:27,880
to trust them a lot more more and they
737
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,000
can gain access to you to potentially
738
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,159
become their next victim your aunt could
739
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:37,120
easily have been for all we know his
740
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,519
next victim oh I think she undoubtedly
741
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:41,720
was on the list I don't think there's
742
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,519
any question about that I mean if he'd
743
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,480
had tea with her once with them once and
744
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,639
thought they were sort of not what he
745
00:32:49,639 --> 00:32:50,720
was looking for he wouldn't have
746
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,320
bothered to have tea with him again um
747
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,039
and I think they had quite a lot of
748
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,960
truck with him would your aunt you think
749
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,480
had he persisted in for want of a better
750
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,120
word chatting her up yes had he
751
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,440
persisted would she have been gullible
752
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,840
enough do you think to oh yes oh yes I
753
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,600
think so my aunt would rush into
754
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,919
anything and she would be easily duped I
755
00:33:12,919 --> 00:33:14,519
think if it had got
756
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:18,960
to an actual invitation to go to Sussex
757
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,880
I think my aunt said oh how lovely yes
758
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,080
shall we drive in your car or mine bless
759
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,480
her she was well named as flossy I think
760
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,159
she she would have um been you know sort
761
00:33:29,159 --> 00:33:31,960
of upended into into the barrel of of
762
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,440
acid
763
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,919
straightway Richard Franklin's Aunt
764
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:38,720
appears to have had a lucky Escape but
765
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,600
the same can't be said for another
766
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,799
Resident of the enlo hotel Mrs Olive
767
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:46,559
Duran Deacon even these names sound
768
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,399
wonderful don't they Fred the honors L
769
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:51,120
Court hotel Mrs Duran Deacon you can
770
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,919
tell the kind of character that hag is
771
00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:56,480
uh attacking ha managed to sit at the
772
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,760
same table t as her in the dining room
773
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,799
and they got chatting about all sorts of
774
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:03,320
things um he must have discovered that
775
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,200
she had quite a nice little uh Nest Egg
776
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,000
tucked away in the bank in fact she had
777
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,918
£36,000 worth of stocks and shears hey
778
00:34:12,918 --> 00:34:15,560
befriended Mrs Jan Deacon and over
779
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,119
several dinners she explained about her
780
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:20,599
ambition to start a Cosmetics business
781
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,399
producing false
782
00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:25,280
nails it was music to the fraudsters
783
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,918
ears they agreed to become business
784
00:34:27,918 --> 00:34:30,599
partners and hag suggested she visited
785
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,359
his premises in Leopold
786
00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:35,800
Road what do you suppose her reaction
787
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,239
would have been when she opened the door
788
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,399
to this ramshackle premises she must
789
00:34:41,399 --> 00:34:43,320
have been pretty horrified and very
790
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,480
surprised because on that day it was a
791
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,520
Friday in February 1949 she was dressed
792
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,918
in her best fur coat she had her best
793
00:34:50,918 --> 00:34:54,560
jewelry on a lovely handbag rings on her
794
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,399
fingers and a pearl necklace around her
795
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:59,200
neck and hay led her to this very grimy
796
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,880
Workshop in a builder's yard in Crawley
797
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,880
and it was a very Stark Place Mrs Jiran
798
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,440
Deacon didn't have much time to take in
799
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,880
the surroundings hag led her to a
800
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,079
workbench to show her some plans with
801
00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:15,760
her head lowered he pulled his revolver
802
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,359
from under the counter and placed it on
803
00:35:18,359 --> 00:35:21,000
the back of her head he shot her dead
804
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,079
with one single
805
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,960
bullet I'm Fred Dage and I'm
806
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960
investigating the real motive behind the
807
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680
horrific murders carried out by John
808
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,599
George hay the Acid Bath
809
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,599
murderer his thirst for money compelled
810
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:41,160
him to kill six people he thought he'd
811
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,560
never be caught if he disposed of his
812
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,320
victim's bodies in acid hag's sixth
813
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,800
victim had been a wealthy Widow Olive
814
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,599
Jan Deacon a fellow resident of the
815
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,200
luxurious enlo Court hotel he's running
816
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,560
out of control Fred he doesn't know how
817
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,280
to put the brakes on nor does he I think
818
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,960
want to put the brakes on he once he's
819
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,119
on this journey he's going to continue
820
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,200
on this journey until he's actually
821
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680
stopped ha had to dispose of Mrs Jan
822
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,480
Deacon's body as with his previous
823
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,920
victims he placed her corpse into a bath
824
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,640
of acid once she was in the drum um he
825
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,119
took a tea break he came out of the yard
826
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:26,200
he walked up the efield road and he went
827
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,760
to a Cafe called the ancient priors and
828
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,359
he ordered himself poached eggs on toast
829
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:33,200
um and he had a long friendly chat with
830
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,480
the proprietor of the cafe as if nothing
831
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,720
had happened um and then within half an
832
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,000
hour he had strolled back to the
833
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,400
workshop to carry out the disposal of
834
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,640
Mrs Duran
835
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,319
Deacon hay poured the remains of the
836
00:36:46,319 --> 00:36:49,359
acid into a corner of his yard he then
837
00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:51,560
returned to the enlo Court hotel to
838
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,240
cover his tracks however he hadn't
839
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,280
accounted for the fact that unlike his
840
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,240
previous victims Mrs Jan Deacon would be
841
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:03,400
missed for a couple of days he looked as
842
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,839
though he'd got away with it but in fact
843
00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:08,040
whereas no one had reported the other
844
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,240
five people missing uh two days after
845
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:13,920
Mrs Duran Deacon had failed to return to
846
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,000
the enow court Hotel her best friend
847
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,200
Miss constant Lane decided that she
848
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,520
would go to Chelsea Police to report as
849
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,160
a missing person the police visited the
850
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,520
enlo Court hotel to conduct inqu quiries
851
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,240
one officer felt that 39-year-old hag
852
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,599
was out of place amongst the elderly
853
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,359
residents checks revealed that hag had a
854
00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:37,920
criminal record for fraud and the police
855
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,760
started to look into the business
856
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,760
activities of this supposed
857
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,240
gentleman the police quickly discovered
858
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,880
hag's Workshop here in Crawley but
859
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,640
nothing could have prepared them for
860
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,920
what they found it was like a scene from
861
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,920
a hammer horror movie on the huntt to
862
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,560
find evidence that would in Criminal ha
863
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,280
detective Sergeant Pat heslin forced
864
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,839
entry into the leapold road
865
00:38:02,839 --> 00:38:05,319
Workshop heslin walked straight into
866
00:38:05,319 --> 00:38:07,599
hag's Workshop of death and discovered
867
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:09,880
all his implements heslin recovered the
868
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,560
revolver and the bullets he also
869
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
recovered a small little bit of paper it
870
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,200
was the receipt for a dry cleaning shop
871
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,079
in rygate he went there on the Sunday
872
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,440
and he recovered a fur coat it was the
873
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,839
fur coat belonging to Mrs Duran Deacon
874
00:38:24,839 --> 00:38:26,960
hay realized that the game was up that
875
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,119
point so he changed his T completely and
876
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,800
he decided to make a confession he
877
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,319
confessed to killing Mrs Jen Deacon but
878
00:38:35,319 --> 00:38:37,440
then to the the astonishment of the
879
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,839
police he began telling them all about
880
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:41,839
the other five killings and the
881
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:44,319
disposals but he thought that they
882
00:38:44,319 --> 00:38:46,760
couldn't touch him ha believed the acid
883
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,119
had dissolved his victims and if the
884
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,200
police couldn't find a body then there
885
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,680
were no legal grounds to convict him he
886
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,760
was wrong on both counts our experiment
887
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,319
with Professor Wilson reveals the error
888
00:38:59,319 --> 00:39:02,720
that brought hag to justice so David is
889
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,599
our chicken after just 2 hours in the
890
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,760
sulfuric acid we can see that the
891
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,920
chicken is obviously diluted inside some
892
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,839
of the body fats have been burnt off
893
00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:13,920
there's a change in color and we used
894
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,720
another piece of chicken in sulfuric
895
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,359
acid which has been diluting for uh one
896
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:22,119
day and here's the result it's this
897
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:24,560
sludge this type of sludge though that's
898
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,640
going to be the beginning of his down
899
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,839
fall in relation to Mrs Durand Deacon
900
00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:31,720
one of Britain's leading forensic
901
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,440
Pathologists Professor Keith Simpson was
902
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,440
brought in to examine hag's premises in
903
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,520
the corner of the yard he discovered 28
904
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,680
lbs of human body fat part of a human
905
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,440
foot and a set of Dentures which were
906
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,240
shown to belong to Mrs Jan
907
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:53,079
Deacon hag became desperate he had one
908
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:55,839
last con up his sleeve he believed might
909
00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:59,079
save him from The Gallows a plea of
910
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:01,920
insanity hay claimed that all his crimes
911
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,440
had been committed to satisfy a Lust For
912
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,400
Blood hag put this Blood drinking claim
913
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,200
into his statement at a very early stage
914
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,200
um so if he was doing it he was acting
915
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,680
very cleverly indeed but I think he was
916
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,359
putting it in to perhaps try and show
917
00:40:18,359 --> 00:40:21,119
that in he was insane and in fact that
918
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,240
was the defense that his was given at
919
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:24,880
his trial that he was insane and
920
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,560
therefore shouldn't hang in July 1949
921
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,560
hag's trial for murder began at Lewis
922
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,040
Crown Court now such a Sinister set of
923
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,599
killings had generated huge public
924
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,280
interest and the streets outside were
925
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,839
packed with people curious to take a
926
00:40:42,839 --> 00:40:46,119
look at the man the Press had labeled
927
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,520
the vampire Vernon evered remembers the
928
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,240
trial as if it were yesterday if you
929
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,640
hadn't known what he' done was he the
930
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,280
sort of bloke you could have passing the
931
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,920
street yes yes he could could have been
932
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:01,280
a bank
933
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,599
manager that's what he looked like
934
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:07,720
Immaculate Vernon was a copy boy working
935
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:10,240
for the local newspaper he got to
936
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,720
experience the atmosphere of a trial
937
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,160
that remarkably only lasted for 3 days
938
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,359
there was a lot more interest in that
939
00:41:18,359 --> 00:41:20,960
sort of case because bearing in mind
940
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,760
there's no TV it made it a sensational
941
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,000
story and was the was the talk of the
942
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,319
day
943
00:41:27,319 --> 00:41:29,400
people talked about it at work what's
944
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,800
happened today you know they brought the
945
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,040
oil drums in today and all this sort of
946
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,720
business there were 33 Witnesses some of
947
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:40,800
them virtually only said one or two
948
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,079
words like yes or
949
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:47,359
no you know did you see Mrs D and Deacon
950
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:50,280
come back into the hotel
951
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,960
no during the trial hag's defense team
952
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680
didn't deny the murders instead they
953
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,760
tried to portray their man as being
954
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,520
mentally ill and therefore unable to
955
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,200
fully appreciate the morality of his
956
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,560
acts and his claims hag's claims that
957
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,079
there were other victims who he killed
958
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:11,920
because he wanted to drink their blood
959
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,920
yeah there was no there was no other
960
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,680
circumstantial evidence and the police
961
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,640
never followed those up anyway blood
962
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,800
drinking was um another part of the ploy
963
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,400
because of the the fact that one of the
964
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,880
doctors said in between the disposed of
965
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,200
Mrs Duran Deacon he went to the Jord
966
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,839
hotel and crawling had poached eggs on
967
00:42:32,839 --> 00:42:34,520
toast and then came back and had appli
968
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,040
the blood a doctor said there's no way
969
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,200
that would be possible without him
970
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,960
absolutely um you know vomiting and
971
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,000
being ill and you know this was another
972
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,359
sort of figment of his imagination well
973
00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:50,359
he was a psychopath wasn't he he was he
974
00:42:50,359 --> 00:42:53,440
was cleverly
975
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,200
Criminal
976
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,160
it took the jury just 15 minutes to come
977
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,040
to a conclusion ha was found guilty and
978
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,839
sentenced to death there was almost a
979
00:43:08,839 --> 00:43:11,359
sort of I can't remember clapping or
980
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:15,240
anything but there was a a sense of um
981
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:19,480
just Justice will be done you know when
982
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,920
uh when the sentence of death was
983
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,280
pronounced they said to him after he was
984
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,240
sentenced have you anything to say and
985
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,680
all he said was nothing at all the
986
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,440
feeling was he deserved all he was going
987
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,119
to get from wesworth prison ha wrote
988
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,839
letters to his family there were no
989
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:40,960
signs of remorse for his
990
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,599
victims well in fact The insan Plea was
991
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,480
never going to be really successful was
992
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,720
it because we know that he killed for
993
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:50,280
money he was quite careful about trying
994
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,839
to cover his tracks indeed we never
995
00:43:52,839 --> 00:43:54,599
discovered the Hendersons that he
996
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:56,800
murdered we never discovered the MC
997
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,640
swans whom he murdered and clearly he
998
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,000
was benefiting financially from what he
999
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,800
was doing on the 10th of August
1000
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,920
1949 John George hay was marched the 15
1001
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,040
Steps to The Hangman's noose in the time
1002
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,839
it's taken me to recount this story The
1003
00:44:16,839 --> 00:44:20,319
Acid Bath murderer was dead in the eyes
1004
00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:24,400
of the law Justice had been
1005
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,359
served if he could look down now that he
1006
00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:30,640
might be and see us talking about him
1007
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,839
how would he feel about that he'd love
1008
00:44:32,839 --> 00:44:35,200
it every serial killer I've worked with
1009
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,760
loves their Public Image loves their
1010
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,280
media the media attention they're able
1011
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,960
to generate I think he'd be glorying in
1012
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,359
in all the agulation that still
1013
00:44:46,359 --> 00:44:48,119
surrounds him I mean we're talking about
1014
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:51,319
a case now that happened in 1949 and yet
1015
00:44:51,319 --> 00:44:53,200
here we are still talking about this
1016
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,640
extraordinary man and I think he would
1017
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,400
take a great deal of delight about that
1018
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,079
even though we're talking about hag
1019
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:01,359
we're also talking about the
1020
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:04,559
circumstances that allows hag to kill
1021
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,960
we're talking about the victims of hag
1022
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,559
we're talking about those people who
1023
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:11,640
really matter we're talking about the
1024
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,800
circumstances that some people can use
1025
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,400
to commit murder and that to me is far
1026
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,280
more important rather than giving
1027
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,839
celebrity to the likes of hag even
1028
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:24,880
though hag would have loved the
1029
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,240
celebrity I set out to discover what
1030
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:31,079
could make a man murder six people and
1031
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:33,119
dispose of their bodies in such a
1032
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:35,920
callous manner from the evidence I've
1033
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,000
heard he was a cold-hearted killer a man
1034
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,200
with no conscience who would do whatever
1035
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,160
it took to make money and satisfy his
1036
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,520
aspirations to live the high life for
1037
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,870
John George hag though his crimes didn't
1038
00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:54,880
[Music]
1039
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,880
pay
1040
00:45:58,700 --> 00:46:03,859
[Music]
1041
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:10,349
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