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Dad will be all right. 8 00:01:13,540 --> 00:01:14,940 - I'm so, so... - No, no. 9 00:01:16,476 --> 00:01:18,206 We'll be all right. 10 00:01:23,684 --> 00:01:26,848 You have that horrible James Brooklands back in the list, Judge. 11 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,354 He's here, is he? 12 00:01:28,455 --> 00:01:31,067 They had him brought from the remand centre to await your pleasure. 13 00:01:31,091 --> 00:01:33,083 Mr Petros, the QC defending Brooklands, 14 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,288 is complaining about his client being in custody. 15 00:01:35,362 --> 00:01:38,890 Yes, well, remand was never meant as a punishment. 16 00:01:39,566 --> 00:01:42,764 Perhaps it's given Mr Brooklands the opportunity to reflect long and hard 17 00:01:42,836 --> 00:01:45,067 on the mother and two children that he ran over. 18 00:01:45,172 --> 00:01:48,199 I doubt it. Here, Mimi, do you want a nut? 19 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:52,707 - Apparently not. - Oh, yes, you do. 20 00:01:57,117 --> 00:01:58,278 Judge? 21 00:01:59,486 --> 00:02:01,614 Can you start a judicial review? 22 00:02:01,688 --> 00:02:04,214 It's not how it usually happens, no. 23 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:07,720 The company my brother works for has been taken over. 24 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:11,356 Bracewright China. They're major manufacturers of china. 25 00:02:11,465 --> 00:02:14,128 The first thing the company that took them over did 26 00:02:14,201 --> 00:02:16,227 was raid the pension fund. 27 00:02:16,937 --> 00:02:19,236 There's legislation in place to prevent that. 28 00:02:19,339 --> 00:02:20,671 Well, it doesn't work. 29 00:02:20,774 --> 00:02:24,768 The DTI says firms mustn't be burdened with extra restrictions, 30 00:02:24,845 --> 00:02:27,474 or there will be no entrepreneurial society. 31 00:02:28,081 --> 00:02:30,050 It's a bit high-handed. 32 00:02:30,117 --> 00:02:31,717 What happened to your brother's pension? 33 00:02:31,752 --> 00:02:33,880 Well, he was expecting about ยฃ100 a week. 34 00:02:33,954 --> 00:02:36,480 He'll be lucky if he gets ยฃ5. 35 00:02:36,556 --> 00:02:38,957 DTI's response could be reviewed. 36 00:02:39,693 --> 00:02:43,653 - He's very angry about it. - It's not a cheap process, you know. 37 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:46,525 Would Mrs Mills see him, do you think? 38 00:02:46,733 --> 00:02:48,929 No, not without a solicitor. 39 00:02:51,805 --> 00:02:54,240 Yes, yes, all right. I'll have a word with her. 40 00:02:54,574 --> 00:02:57,169 I suppose I could see Coop's brother, I've nothing else. 41 00:02:57,244 --> 00:02:59,907 Suddenly I'm no one's favourite QC. 42 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:03,211 - You're still top of my list. - That's the problem. 43 00:03:03,650 --> 00:03:06,916 It all comes from your helping me at the disciplinary tribunal. 44 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:08,818 If I hadn't, you'd be off the road by now. 45 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:13,589 Oh, not necessarily. And anyway, whose fault was that in the first place? 46 00:03:13,694 --> 00:03:16,528 So we should regularise our relationship and get married. 47 00:03:16,596 --> 00:03:19,225 - John, that's not where it's at. - Why? 48 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:22,025 Why? You've always been my ideal. 49 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:24,570 You're everything that a man could want. 50 00:03:24,638 --> 00:03:25,833 Bright. 51 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:27,671 Beautiful. 52 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:29,270 Compassionate. 53 00:03:29,376 --> 00:03:32,141 Being your ideal is too much of a burden. 54 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,625 Anyway, five minutes into marriage, you'd be off chasing other women. 55 00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:36,859 No, I wouldn't. Scout's honour. 56 00:03:36,883 --> 00:03:38,511 All right, then, 10 minutes. 57 00:03:38,618 --> 00:03:40,712 You love the idea of being in love with me 58 00:03:40,821 --> 00:03:43,052 because I keep my distance. 59 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:44,851 Real relationships are hard work. 60 00:03:44,925 --> 00:03:46,860 It's much easier to walk away. 61 00:03:46,927 --> 00:03:48,887 The other person always promises something better. 62 00:03:48,929 --> 00:03:50,339 There is no one better. I know that. 63 00:03:50,363 --> 00:03:52,889 No, you just think you do. 64 00:03:56,036 --> 00:03:57,800 You need help, John. 65 00:03:58,705 --> 00:04:00,731 All right. I'll get help. 66 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:10,244 Are you sure you're serious about therapy, Sir John? 67 00:04:10,317 --> 00:04:12,252 As long as it's not in front of your students. 68 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:15,289 I don't have students. I lecture occasionally. 69 00:04:15,622 --> 00:04:17,318 What do you do the rest of the time? 70 00:04:17,457 --> 00:04:19,619 I usually ask the questions. 71 00:04:21,361 --> 00:04:23,887 Yes, barristers often complain of that. 72 00:04:23,964 --> 00:04:26,900 They say I examine the witnesses too much. 73 00:04:27,167 --> 00:04:29,432 Do you like being in control, Sir John? 74 00:04:29,536 --> 00:04:31,095 Is this part of the therapy? 75 00:04:31,171 --> 00:04:33,163 Everything has a bearing. 76 00:04:33,573 --> 00:04:35,269 Does this mean we're getting started? 77 00:04:35,375 --> 00:04:38,072 I have to be convinced you're serious. 78 00:04:38,578 --> 00:04:41,070 Could we explore this over dinner, do you think? 79 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:43,013 Is that against the rules? 80 00:04:43,083 --> 00:04:45,678 I never have social contact with clients. 81 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:47,152 Neither do I. 82 00:04:49,422 --> 00:04:51,823 What is it you want out of this? 83 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:55,661 To be able to form a long-term relationship. 84 00:04:55,929 --> 00:04:57,488 I don't have a magic formula. 85 00:04:57,564 --> 00:05:00,500 Then what do therapists do for their money? 86 00:05:01,034 --> 00:05:04,334 Who is it you want to have a long-term relationship with? 87 00:05:04,404 --> 00:05:09,968 The Lord Chancellor and his aperient, Ian Rochester, would be a start. 88 00:05:11,545 --> 00:05:14,481 Okay. Call my office tomorrow, we'll make an appointment. 89 00:05:14,581 --> 00:05:16,607 James Brooklands remaining on remand 90 00:05:16,683 --> 00:05:18,982 is a clear breach of his human rights. 91 00:05:19,052 --> 00:05:21,521 Does it embarrass your masters, Ian? 92 00:05:21,621 --> 00:05:23,749 That is not a consideration. 93 00:05:23,890 --> 00:05:26,450 Are you trying to push me off the Brooklands case? 94 00:05:26,526 --> 00:05:29,155 As a champion of the European system, 95 00:05:29,262 --> 00:05:32,926 I thought you'd argue for not keeping this man on remand. 96 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,764 Well, I... I will get to the case quite soon. 97 00:05:37,037 --> 00:05:39,370 We'd rather you took the Dobbs murder trial. 98 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:42,768 It's straightforward enough. Why not give it to a purple judge? 99 00:05:42,843 --> 00:05:44,812 There's none available. 100 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,875 The overwhelming burden of evidence is against Mrs Dobbs, 101 00:05:49,983 --> 00:05:53,681 but it's not altogether certain she did the slaying. 102 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:56,552 Then why is she going to trial? 103 00:05:56,957 --> 00:06:00,155 The DPP was rather hoping you'd do one of your famous interventions 104 00:06:00,260 --> 00:06:01,922 to penetrate to the heart of the matter. 105 00:06:01,995 --> 00:06:04,089 Is that how it works, Ian? 106 00:06:04,164 --> 00:06:08,602 Either way, the Dobbs trial is on your list ahead of Brooklands. 107 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:11,137 Unless you specifically refuse. 108 00:06:12,172 --> 00:06:16,667 Which leaves the problem of what to do with Brooklands, meanwhile. 109 00:06:22,315 --> 00:06:24,511 - Will you grant him bail? - No. 110 00:06:27,787 --> 00:06:30,222 It's entirely in your hands, John. 111 00:06:33,526 --> 00:06:37,759 There's no doubt Deed lied to the disciplinary tribunal, I suppose, Monty. 112 00:06:37,864 --> 00:06:39,958 It was clear and blatant. 113 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:42,194 But he's a High Court judge, Ian. 114 00:06:42,302 --> 00:06:44,897 If he said he didn't sleep with Mrs Mills, 115 00:06:44,971 --> 00:06:46,234 we have to accept his word. 116 00:06:46,339 --> 00:06:48,604 I took that view, Michael. 117 00:06:49,576 --> 00:06:52,603 We have photographs of them in bed. 118 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:56,444 But how were they obtained? 119 00:06:56,516 --> 00:06:59,076 An overzealous servant at the lodgings. 120 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:01,416 Is that fair, Ian? 121 00:07:01,488 --> 00:07:06,017 We're dealing with a judge who seems to pay no heed to the rules, Michael. 122 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,591 You're unusually silent, Joe. Is this difficult for you, 123 00:07:09,696 --> 00:07:11,665 being his ex-father-in-law? 124 00:07:11,731 --> 00:07:15,395 As much as I dislike Deed, I've never found him to be a liar. 125 00:07:15,502 --> 00:07:19,030 Quite the reverse. He's always too truthful for his own good. 126 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:21,631 The evidence speaks for itself, Joe. 127 00:07:21,808 --> 00:07:23,640 It's meaningless. We couldn't use it. 128 00:07:23,743 --> 00:07:26,406 To do so would be to imbrute the bench. 129 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,109 It does rather leave us in a cleft stick. 130 00:07:30,216 --> 00:07:32,708 Something has to be done about him. 131 00:07:33,219 --> 00:07:35,279 There's nothing one can do. 132 00:07:36,957 --> 00:07:39,927 We could put more pressure on Mrs Mills, Joe. 133 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:41,756 She was his co-conspirator in this. 134 00:07:41,861 --> 00:07:44,160 But I thought that was the reason that she went before 135 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:46,460 the disciplinary tribunal in the first place. 136 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:49,298 We've been altogether too nice, Michael. 137 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:53,699 I would suggest a less confrontational approach, Ian. 138 00:07:55,241 --> 00:07:58,143 Have a quiet word with the Attorney General. 139 00:07:58,578 --> 00:08:01,446 By controlling the cases, 140 00:08:01,548 --> 00:08:03,312 that go to each of them, 141 00:08:03,416 --> 00:08:08,411 Deed and Mrs Mills might be marginalized. 142 00:08:10,023 --> 00:08:11,958 We thought it might be useful to take your mind 143 00:08:12,058 --> 00:08:13,253 on the discussion document 144 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:16,160 for a continental-style Ministry of Justice, Alan. 145 00:08:16,262 --> 00:08:18,128 I thought the Lord Chancellor was against it. 146 00:08:18,198 --> 00:08:20,292 Oh, we remain implacable. 147 00:08:20,367 --> 00:08:22,063 Deed gave rather a good paper on it 148 00:08:22,135 --> 00:08:25,765 to the European Human Rights seminar at Warwick last month. 149 00:08:25,839 --> 00:08:30,209 Unlike politicians, High Court judges don't have to clear their speeches. 150 00:08:30,276 --> 00:08:32,768 Yes, the director was complaining about him. 151 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:34,405 And the CPS are a bit fed up with him 152 00:08:34,481 --> 00:08:37,451 taking the prosecution and defence in cases. 153 00:08:39,486 --> 00:08:42,183 Deed can be very useful sometimes, Ian. 154 00:08:42,622 --> 00:08:45,888 Does that mean you couldn't support any move against him? 155 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:47,621 Not necessarily. 156 00:08:48,294 --> 00:08:50,263 Do you have a specific proposal? 157 00:08:50,330 --> 00:08:53,095 We'd like to close His Lordship out of the loop, 158 00:08:53,166 --> 00:08:55,658 along with his paramour, Mrs Mills. 159 00:09:08,782 --> 00:09:11,183 - Michael? - Ah, Jo. 160 00:09:11,317 --> 00:09:14,014 I had dinner with John Deed the other night. Very good form. 161 00:09:14,087 --> 00:09:16,181 Being a judge so suits him. 162 00:09:16,856 --> 00:09:18,825 I need your support, Michael. 163 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:22,056 CPS have bumped me from my murder case in favour of Newman Mason Allen. 164 00:09:22,128 --> 00:09:23,926 They're the client, Jo. 165 00:09:23,997 --> 00:09:25,488 They briefed me for the prosecution. 166 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:27,557 I can't tell them where to place work. 167 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:30,159 As Head of Chambers, you could protest. 168 00:09:31,938 --> 00:09:34,908 I know we have sweetheart relationships with the CPS, 169 00:09:34,974 --> 00:09:37,876 but I did nothing wrong, Michael. 170 00:09:37,977 --> 00:09:40,208 No one imagines otherwise, Jo. 171 00:09:41,548 --> 00:09:44,040 Aren't we getting a little too dependent on the CPS? 172 00:09:44,117 --> 00:09:46,814 You and Newman and Julia practically live there. 173 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:48,852 We have to manage a balance of work, Jo. 174 00:09:48,922 --> 00:09:51,482 Prosecuting or defending, it's all the same. 175 00:09:51,658 --> 00:09:53,024 Excuse me. 176 00:10:12,545 --> 00:10:14,605 Am I on my way out of here? 177 00:10:15,482 --> 00:10:17,178 We're working hard on your behalf. 178 00:10:17,250 --> 00:10:19,719 - I'm still here, Clive. - Yes. 179 00:10:20,253 --> 00:10:22,449 How would you feel about pleading guilty? 180 00:10:22,522 --> 00:10:24,467 Look, I know I ran over those two girls and their mother, 181 00:10:24,491 --> 00:10:26,722 but it was an accident, Alex. 182 00:10:26,893 --> 00:10:30,455 We're asking for an indication of sentence, were you to plead. 183 00:10:30,530 --> 00:10:33,466 With the right note of contrition, James, 184 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:36,727 you might be able to walk away without a prison sentence. 185 00:10:38,705 --> 00:10:40,333 Well, is that possible? 186 00:10:40,406 --> 00:10:43,240 John, we're getting into grave difficulties 187 00:10:43,343 --> 00:10:44,971 with James Brooklands coming back. 188 00:10:45,044 --> 00:10:46,604 It's not that much of a problem, is it? 189 00:10:46,646 --> 00:10:49,844 With you tied up on the Dobbs murder trial? 190 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:51,645 Brooklands can be further remanded. 191 00:10:51,718 --> 00:10:55,211 Well, personally, I'd sooner see him go down and do some real time, 192 00:10:55,288 --> 00:10:57,621 but not before he's tried. 193 00:10:57,824 --> 00:10:59,918 What if he were to plead guilty? 194 00:11:00,026 --> 00:11:02,552 What would your indication as to sentence be? 195 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:06,190 I mean, you could interpose the guilty plea and get it out of the way. 196 00:11:06,299 --> 00:11:10,464 - I'd want to give him the maximum. - I'm sure he wouldn't agree to that. 197 00:11:10,537 --> 00:11:13,939 - Couldn't you let him out on bail? - No, there's a risk he'll flee. 198 00:11:14,007 --> 00:11:16,977 His defence team have asked me to hear an application 199 00:11:17,043 --> 00:11:18,944 for the trial to start immediately. 200 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:20,422 Failing that, they want him released 201 00:11:20,446 --> 00:11:23,143 under Article 6 of the Human Rights Act. 202 00:11:23,583 --> 00:11:25,449 You could turn down the application. 203 00:11:25,518 --> 00:11:28,283 If I do that, they'll sue for a writ of habeas corpus. 204 00:11:28,388 --> 00:11:32,348 You might have to release the case, as you're not ready to start. 205 00:11:36,062 --> 00:11:38,793 Well, I don't want to appear vindictive, Monty, 206 00:11:39,165 --> 00:11:40,765 but Brooklands had better go to somebody 207 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,531 who'll deal with him as the public expects. 208 00:11:43,603 --> 00:11:46,630 Yes, we'll see that he's dealt with appropriately. 209 00:11:51,411 --> 00:11:52,640 Are you alone? 210 00:11:52,745 --> 00:11:55,078 I think Mimi's around somewhere. 211 00:11:55,181 --> 00:11:56,979 Why? Would it matter? 212 00:11:57,383 --> 00:11:59,852 When are you seeing your therapist? 213 00:12:00,220 --> 00:12:01,279 What's the problem, Jo? 214 00:12:01,387 --> 00:12:03,618 Why should I have a problem? Do you know of one? 215 00:12:03,690 --> 00:12:05,750 Why does everyone assume that I have a problem? 216 00:12:05,858 --> 00:12:08,555 I was cleared by the disciplinary tribunal. 217 00:12:08,661 --> 00:12:09,959 All right. 218 00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:13,131 - Relax. Have a drink. - I don't want a drink. 219 00:12:14,133 --> 00:12:15,931 I want to know what's happening. 220 00:12:16,002 --> 00:12:17,800 Could you be a little bit more specific? 221 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:20,339 - I've been dropped by the CPS. - Oh. 222 00:12:21,174 --> 00:12:23,302 Well, it happens, you know. 223 00:12:23,376 --> 00:12:26,574 - Twice in the same week? - Did they give a reason? 224 00:12:26,646 --> 00:12:29,946 They thought it better if I wasn't in front of you. 225 00:12:30,183 --> 00:12:32,880 I don't see that as a serious impediment. 226 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:37,053 When was it decided that you were to hear the Dobbs murder trial? 227 00:12:37,123 --> 00:12:39,649 Earlier today. It was switched in the list. 228 00:12:39,726 --> 00:12:41,854 I was dumped two days ago. 229 00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:45,730 It wasn't until I complained today that you were mentioned. 230 00:12:45,832 --> 00:12:48,461 Well, somebody's been had, and I don't think it's you. 231 00:12:48,534 --> 00:12:50,594 It was me who lost the CPS work. 232 00:12:50,703 --> 00:12:54,765 Of course, no one in chambers will protest because they might be next. 233 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:57,603 Do you think you might be making a fuss over nothing? 234 00:12:57,710 --> 00:13:00,475 It wasn't you who got the sack. 235 00:13:01,648 --> 00:13:04,174 Would you like me to have a word with your head of chambers? 236 00:13:04,250 --> 00:13:05,445 Absolutely not. 237 00:13:05,551 --> 00:13:07,096 I'm fed up with it being such a boys' club. 238 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,919 Even Julia Crampsie behaves like one of them. 239 00:13:10,023 --> 00:13:12,034 - Nothing I can do about that. - Oh, I don't want you to. 240 00:13:12,058 --> 00:13:14,357 Well, what do you want me to do? 241 00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:16,562 You don't want to go to bed with me. 242 00:13:18,665 --> 00:13:20,142 You think that's the solution to everything. 243 00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:21,464 Isn't it? 244 00:13:31,411 --> 00:13:33,642 - Do you want to stay and eat? - No. 245 00:13:34,147 --> 00:13:36,275 - Jo. - Forget it. 246 00:13:43,122 --> 00:13:45,114 Coop's brother should go for judicial review. 247 00:13:45,224 --> 00:13:48,683 The DTI's indifference to the workers losing their pensions is outrageous. 248 00:13:48,761 --> 00:13:50,641 You can't make a case out of their indifference. 249 00:13:50,697 --> 00:13:54,065 The DTI took a clear position. Tough. 250 00:13:54,133 --> 00:13:55,573 Does he have the money to go to law? 251 00:13:55,601 --> 00:13:58,400 The short answer is no, but too much to qualify for legal aid. 252 00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:02,566 And are you going to take it on? 253 00:14:02,809 --> 00:14:04,641 I'll help where I can. 254 00:14:05,211 --> 00:14:06,941 - Will you support me? - How? 255 00:14:07,013 --> 00:14:09,258 It might be difficult because of my relationship with Coop. 256 00:14:09,282 --> 00:14:10,944 To say nothing of our relationship. 257 00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:12,747 Well, we haven't got one, according to you. 258 00:14:12,819 --> 00:14:15,516 But you do try, though, John. 259 00:14:16,522 --> 00:14:18,991 Can you tell the court what you found 260 00:14:19,058 --> 00:14:21,118 when you arrived at the defendant's home? 261 00:14:21,227 --> 00:14:24,061 She was giving her husband mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. 262 00:14:24,130 --> 00:14:26,361 Was the victim alive or dead? 263 00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:29,561 Dead. Well, leastwise I couldn't find a pulse. 264 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,737 - Do you know how long he'd been dead? - Fifteen minutes. 265 00:14:32,805 --> 00:14:34,774 Do you know that or are you speculating? 266 00:14:34,841 --> 00:14:36,785 I didn't know at the time, but it was confirmed later 267 00:14:36,809 --> 00:14:38,368 that the first blow killed him. 268 00:14:38,444 --> 00:14:40,538 I see. Mr Mason Allen. 269 00:14:41,614 --> 00:14:45,483 Do you know for how long Mrs Dobbs had been trying to resuscitate her husband? 270 00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:47,679 - Not long. - How do you know? 271 00:14:47,787 --> 00:14:50,120 It's knackering, especially if they're not coming back. 272 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:52,021 You couldn't keep it up for 15 minutes. 273 00:14:52,091 --> 00:14:56,529 So it's likely that Mrs Dobbs assumed this position 274 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:59,292 with your arrival to give a caring impression. 275 00:14:59,365 --> 00:15:01,994 My lord, my learned friend is calling for speculation 276 00:15:02,101 --> 00:15:03,296 on the part of this witness. 277 00:15:03,369 --> 00:15:06,806 Yes, I'm more concerned that he's leading the witness. 278 00:15:07,206 --> 00:15:08,731 I do apologise. 279 00:15:09,709 --> 00:15:12,702 Officer, had Mrs Dobbs 280 00:15:12,812 --> 00:15:15,441 been trying to revive her husband for 15 minutes? 281 00:15:15,548 --> 00:15:17,949 No, she didn't look like she had. 282 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:21,980 - Was she exhausted or sweating? - No. 283 00:15:22,255 --> 00:15:24,190 - What was her son doing? - Nothing. 284 00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:26,089 He was in a state of shock. 285 00:15:26,192 --> 00:15:29,560 - Well, who admitted you to the house? - The boy, Andy. 286 00:15:29,695 --> 00:15:31,823 Did he say anything to you? 287 00:15:32,832 --> 00:15:35,324 "It's my dad, it's my dad. They killed him." 288 00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:38,064 Meaning some burglars who'd entered the house. 289 00:15:38,137 --> 00:15:41,164 You're sure he said, "They killed him"? 290 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:42,640 That was the note I took down. 291 00:15:42,742 --> 00:15:44,643 Remind us when you made this note. 292 00:15:44,744 --> 00:15:47,646 When I got back to the station, sir, about an hour later. 293 00:15:47,747 --> 00:15:49,409 An hour, I see. 294 00:15:50,283 --> 00:15:53,048 How would you describe the boy? 295 00:15:53,619 --> 00:15:56,418 In the face of his father having been bludgeoned to death? 296 00:15:56,622 --> 00:15:58,181 Mr Mason Allen. 297 00:15:58,858 --> 00:16:01,089 I do apologise, my lord. 298 00:16:02,261 --> 00:16:07,165 Um, one further point, Sergeant. 299 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,399 Mr Justice Everard has taken the case. 300 00:16:14,507 --> 00:16:17,102 He's arranged for the charge against Brooklands to revert 301 00:16:17,176 --> 00:16:19,805 to causing death by dangerous driving. 302 00:16:20,446 --> 00:16:23,143 - When did this happen, Coop? - Well, I've just heard. 303 00:16:23,216 --> 00:16:24,240 No! 304 00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:27,411 It must be manslaughter. 305 00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:29,888 I knew that's what you recommended, Judge. 306 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,322 If they think they've outmanoeuvred me... 307 00:16:32,425 --> 00:16:36,157 Brooklands could walk free, especially if he pleads guilty. 308 00:16:36,462 --> 00:16:38,431 I'll talk to the Attorney General. 309 00:16:38,564 --> 00:16:41,432 What do you expect from me? The CPS determines the charges. 310 00:16:41,501 --> 00:16:43,936 With a little help from Monty Everard. 311 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:46,329 Oh, I could have a word with the director. 312 00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:47,532 I'm not inclined. 313 00:16:47,607 --> 00:16:49,599 Plea bargaining's a loathsome process, Alan. 314 00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:52,042 Families of victims feel betrayed. 315 00:16:52,144 --> 00:16:54,238 If it happens with Brooklands, it'll be a travesty. 316 00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:56,407 You're overreacting, Sir John. 317 00:16:56,482 --> 00:16:58,747 Sometimes the lesser charges guarantee a conviction. 318 00:16:58,818 --> 00:17:02,016 Here it will guarantee that Brooklands walks free. 319 00:17:02,421 --> 00:17:03,889 Oh, I don't know. 320 00:17:04,924 --> 00:17:07,257 Isn't this something that might never happen? 321 00:17:08,227 --> 00:17:09,559 If it does, 322 00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:11,964 there will be trouble. 323 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:21,272 My lord, the prosecution having amended the charge against Mr Brooklands 324 00:17:21,340 --> 00:17:23,900 to causing death by dangerous driving, 325 00:17:23,976 --> 00:17:26,605 my client would wish to have the indictment put again. 326 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:30,774 As long as he realises this is still a serious charge. 327 00:17:33,286 --> 00:17:34,982 James Brooklands, 328 00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:38,422 on the charge of causing death by dangerous driving, 329 00:17:38,491 --> 00:17:40,084 that on the 15th of March last, 330 00:17:40,192 --> 00:17:42,286 you caused a motor vehicle you were driving 331 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:43,863 to go out of control, 332 00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:47,628 killing Alison and Liza Cox and their mother, Vanessa. 333 00:17:48,301 --> 00:17:50,998 How do you plead? Guilty or not guilty? 334 00:17:51,804 --> 00:17:53,067 Guilty. 335 00:17:54,674 --> 00:17:58,839 Is there anything you wish to say in mitigation before I pass sentence? 336 00:17:58,945 --> 00:18:03,212 Well, I don't know what I could say to the family of the victims, sir. 337 00:18:03,282 --> 00:18:05,581 If I could bring them back with some act, 338 00:18:05,651 --> 00:18:08,815 some personal sacrifice, 339 00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:12,017 I'd give away my business. 340 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:14,894 Even give away my life. 341 00:18:16,629 --> 00:18:18,825 Their deaths have haunted me. 342 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,277 If you were to put me in prison for the rest of my life, 343 00:18:22,301 --> 00:18:24,964 I still couldn't escape what I'd done. 344 00:18:26,005 --> 00:18:29,134 I shouldn't have been talking on the phone while I was driving. 345 00:18:29,208 --> 00:18:30,699 No one should. 346 00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:33,188 I've written to every member of Parliament. 347 00:18:33,212 --> 00:18:35,443 I'm lobbying all the influential people I know 348 00:18:35,581 --> 00:18:37,641 to get the law changed. 349 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:40,948 Something should result from this... This tragedy. 350 00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:43,886 I couldn't bear it if it doesn't. 351 00:18:44,223 --> 00:18:47,318 We are pleased to note your remorse, Mr Brooklands. 352 00:18:47,426 --> 00:18:50,225 It would be uncharitable to ignore it. 353 00:18:50,296 --> 00:18:53,323 - My lord... - Now, I've read all the reports 354 00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:54,764 on the defendant, Mr Gaydon. 355 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:57,462 - Yes, but I... - I don't need to see anything more 356 00:18:57,536 --> 00:18:59,471 before I pass sentence. 357 00:19:01,874 --> 00:19:03,342 Mr Brooklands. 358 00:19:04,377 --> 00:19:08,144 This is a charge that warrants a long prison sentence. 359 00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:13,381 However, it is clear that you have suffered greatly 360 00:19:13,619 --> 00:19:15,451 while being remanded. 361 00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:19,453 I imagine the thought of going back to prison fills you with terror. 362 00:19:19,525 --> 00:19:21,619 Yes, sir, it terrifies me. 363 00:19:22,461 --> 00:19:25,260 Then prison has served a useful purpose. 364 00:19:26,098 --> 00:19:30,968 I sentence you to what will amount to time served on remand. 365 00:19:31,070 --> 00:19:32,732 But added to this, 366 00:19:33,139 --> 00:19:35,802 I'm going to give you the maximum sentence in the community. 367 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:38,534 Two hundred and forty hours service. 368 00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:40,378 Release him. 369 00:19:42,848 --> 00:19:44,441 All rise. 370 00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:01,691 Wretch. You miserable wretch. 371 00:20:01,834 --> 00:20:05,293 - You are out of control. - You're impotent. 372 00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:12,740 And you, sir, are a barefaced liar. 373 00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:14,189 What do you think you're doing in my court? 374 00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:16,239 Witnessing how spineless you are. 375 00:20:16,348 --> 00:20:17,592 You make me ashamed of the bench. 376 00:20:17,616 --> 00:20:20,586 Ah, and what are you doing to do? Resign? 377 00:20:20,653 --> 00:20:22,693 No, I'm going to talk to the Attorney General again, 378 00:20:22,788 --> 00:20:26,486 have him appeal your sentence and stick your crony in jail. 379 00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:28,493 I spoke to him earlier. 380 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:31,960 Sir Alan sees Brooklands as a wealth creator. 381 00:20:32,131 --> 00:20:34,498 One who shouldn't be in prison. 382 00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:43,674 Is there nothing you can do about Brooklands, Judge? 383 00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:46,372 Not unless he kills somebody else, no. 384 00:20:47,046 --> 00:20:49,709 It's Justice Everard and the Attorney General 385 00:20:49,782 --> 00:20:52,274 I should like to do something about. 386 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:59,850 I'm gonna talk to the Times' law correspondent. 387 00:21:00,426 --> 00:21:02,725 Let's see how comfortable that makes them feel. 388 00:21:06,132 --> 00:21:11,070 The Brooklands case represents the very heart of cronyism in our system. 389 00:21:11,871 --> 00:21:15,865 We all tend to favour our own, of course. It's only human nature. 390 00:21:16,008 --> 00:21:18,568 Politicians and political appointees 391 00:21:18,711 --> 00:21:21,840 will tend to favour the likes of James Brooklands. 392 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:24,610 They make huge donations to the party. 393 00:21:25,217 --> 00:21:28,085 What do you feel is the solution, Sir John? 394 00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:30,282 Well, that's a big question. 395 00:21:32,024 --> 00:21:35,722 Not having politics funded by donations in the first place 396 00:21:35,828 --> 00:21:37,387 would be a start. 397 00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:39,728 Having independent government Law Officers 398 00:21:39,832 --> 00:21:43,030 instead of political apparatchiks would also help. 399 00:21:43,469 --> 00:21:47,270 You see, politicians aren't the consciousness. 400 00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:50,667 They only reflect our consciousness. 401 00:21:51,010 --> 00:21:53,639 Do you intend to resign now, Sir John? 402 00:21:54,814 --> 00:21:55,838 No. 403 00:21:56,115 --> 00:21:59,574 I intend to stay and fight the administrative corruption 404 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:03,646 displayed by Mr Justice Everard and his cohorts in Court Number One. 405 00:22:04,089 --> 00:22:06,684 - Can I quote that directly? - Yes. 406 00:22:08,260 --> 00:22:11,526 Everything that I have said has been on the record. 407 00:22:12,231 --> 00:22:13,722 It's been a poor day for justice. 408 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,769 If you're rich and keep on making money, 409 00:22:17,503 --> 00:22:18,869 then you're above the law. 410 00:22:21,507 --> 00:22:22,975 Look at these. 411 00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:27,778 Unless we achieve some effective damage limitation very fast, Laurence, 412 00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:31,113 one or both of us are liable to be transferred to Defra. 413 00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:32,651 Or worse, Immigration. 414 00:22:33,619 --> 00:22:36,248 We could go on the counter-offensive. 415 00:22:37,089 --> 00:22:38,751 Do you have one? 416 00:22:39,792 --> 00:22:41,988 Do you have a good bodyguard? 417 00:22:42,061 --> 00:22:45,327 - Do I need one? - I've just been reading your press. 418 00:22:45,431 --> 00:22:47,161 You free for lunch? 419 00:22:54,473 --> 00:22:56,738 What's the problem, Mrs Dobbs? 420 00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:59,607 I've been thinking about Andy. 421 00:23:00,412 --> 00:23:02,108 I need to see him. 422 00:23:02,948 --> 00:23:05,417 You can't. He's a defence witness. 423 00:23:05,751 --> 00:23:07,811 I don't want him to be. 424 00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:09,454 He mustn't be. 425 00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:11,285 But he'll confirm what happened. 426 00:23:11,423 --> 00:23:13,235 Without him, you could be facing a murder conviction. 427 00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:16,127 If that happens, there can be only one sentence. 428 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:17,890 Life imprisonment. 429 00:23:18,597 --> 00:23:20,327 I don't care. 430 00:23:22,301 --> 00:23:24,930 I don't want him to suffer any more. 431 00:23:25,037 --> 00:23:27,905 I can't bear what this is doing to him. 432 00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:30,869 Mrs Dobbs, I've talked at length with Andy. 433 00:23:30,943 --> 00:23:33,310 He's a very sensible young man. 434 00:23:34,313 --> 00:23:38,045 He'll do your case nothing but good. Trust me on this, please. 435 00:23:45,457 --> 00:23:47,135 Sergeant Milbrook, you said in evidence 436 00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:50,027 that the room was orderly with no signs of a struggle. 437 00:23:50,129 --> 00:23:52,223 That's right, there wasn't. 438 00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:54,142 Did you look anywhere else in the house? 439 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,691 I did look in the other rooms, sir. 440 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,737 There was no sign of a struggle there, either. 441 00:23:57,836 --> 00:24:00,772 So your impression was of a neat, orderly household? 442 00:24:00,873 --> 00:24:02,000 Yes. 443 00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:04,906 Lived in by orderly, restrained individuals. 444 00:24:05,477 --> 00:24:07,070 - Yes? - Yes. 445 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:09,305 I did get that impression. 446 00:24:09,648 --> 00:24:12,345 Have you ever rowed with your partner? 447 00:24:12,551 --> 00:24:13,610 Once or twice. 448 00:24:13,719 --> 00:24:16,211 Smashed the furniture, turned it over? 449 00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:18,189 No, I can't say we did. 450 00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:23,127 No. It's not the furniture we row with, but another person. 451 00:24:24,229 --> 00:24:26,892 If someone was attacking you and then turned on a child 452 00:24:26,999 --> 00:24:29,093 who was trying to stop that attack, 453 00:24:29,168 --> 00:24:33,503 and you ran to find something with which to threaten him and stop him, 454 00:24:33,672 --> 00:24:36,801 there needn't necessarily be furniture involved, need there? 455 00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:38,810 No, not really. 456 00:24:39,545 --> 00:24:41,523 Then, in those circumstances, it wouldn't be surprising 457 00:24:41,547 --> 00:24:44,107 that the house of three very orderly people 458 00:24:44,216 --> 00:24:46,549 - remained orderly, would it? - No. 459 00:24:47,019 --> 00:24:50,046 - I suppose it wouldn't. - Just as you found it. 460 00:24:55,127 --> 00:24:56,652 With your leave, my lord, 461 00:24:56,729 --> 00:24:59,494 I'd like to call Detective Chief Inspector Hurst. 462 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:17,615 It's totally scandalous, Ian. 463 00:25:17,716 --> 00:25:18,945 It's libellous. 464 00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:21,510 Well, we can't sue Deed for libel. 465 00:25:21,653 --> 00:25:23,588 I'd like to wring his damn neck. 466 00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:25,886 We mustn't give him the satisfaction 467 00:25:25,991 --> 00:25:27,459 of responding publicly. 468 00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:29,118 Well, then, do something about him. 469 00:25:29,228 --> 00:25:31,697 We can't swat him, Monty. 470 00:25:32,598 --> 00:25:35,432 The Lord Chancellor's meeting with the Attorney and the Home Secretary 471 00:25:35,501 --> 00:25:37,493 to discuss how we might respond. 472 00:25:37,736 --> 00:25:39,637 Well, don't let him have any more cases. 473 00:25:39,705 --> 00:25:41,731 Alas, he has a number reserved to himself. 474 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,309 Then, we'll take them away from him. 475 00:25:44,943 --> 00:25:47,913 It's not just you who got a bad press, Monty. 476 00:25:48,514 --> 00:25:51,450 We did, Court Services did and the CPS. 477 00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:55,613 You were altogether too lenient with Brooklands. 478 00:25:55,687 --> 00:25:58,589 The man either makes money for the country or he doesn't. 479 00:25:58,757 --> 00:26:00,783 He can't do it in prison. 480 00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:05,595 I'll speak with Deed when he rises. 481 00:26:05,664 --> 00:26:08,190 I don't want him on my circuit a moment longer. 482 00:26:08,267 --> 00:26:10,107 If we can't stop him hearing his reserve cases, 483 00:26:10,169 --> 00:26:12,502 then marginalise him back at the Strand. 484 00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:15,234 Mightn't that be seen to be punishing him? 485 00:26:15,307 --> 00:26:18,141 Since when was Central London a punishment? 486 00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:21,303 I'll talk to him, Monty. 487 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:24,850 Perhaps we'll put more pressure on Mrs Mills. 488 00:26:32,624 --> 00:26:34,024 Come in. 489 00:26:34,493 --> 00:26:36,223 Jo, how's it going? 490 00:26:36,662 --> 00:26:39,325 - I'm thinking of taking up knitting. - Oh, dear. 491 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:41,400 Still becalmed, are we? 492 00:26:42,201 --> 00:26:43,897 Well, um... 493 00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:46,837 I hate to be the bearer of more bad news, 494 00:26:46,905 --> 00:26:52,071 but CPS are thinking of 495 00:26:52,778 --> 00:26:55,304 dropping you from their silks list. 496 00:26:59,218 --> 00:27:00,914 Did they say why? 497 00:27:00,986 --> 00:27:04,184 Oh, too many silks, I think. 498 00:27:04,256 --> 00:27:06,225 You don't believe that. 499 00:27:07,025 --> 00:27:10,189 I rather think John went over the top with his public utterances. 500 00:27:10,262 --> 00:27:11,628 Don't you? 501 00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:16,425 Why don't we have lunch? 502 00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:18,760 Talk about your future. 503 00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:21,504 Are you free? 504 00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:24,338 Oh. No, I'm not, I'm afraid. 505 00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,872 Everard brought the bench and the Lord Chancellor's department 506 00:27:27,946 --> 00:27:30,609 to the lowest and most shameful point since before the abolition 507 00:27:30,716 --> 00:27:34,153 of capital punishment, and you want me to apologise? 508 00:27:39,424 --> 00:27:41,256 The fact is, Sir John, 509 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,990 judges don't normally criticise their brethren. Not in public. 510 00:27:45,063 --> 00:27:47,862 The public expects judges to be fair and decent, 511 00:27:47,933 --> 00:27:49,925 but above all, just. 512 00:27:50,702 --> 00:27:52,568 What I witnessed was so wantonly unjust, 513 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:54,503 it cried out for a public statement. 514 00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:56,735 He should be exscinded from all judicial functions. 515 00:27:56,842 --> 00:28:00,006 And woe betide you if you or your department had anything to do with it, 516 00:28:00,112 --> 00:28:01,876 because I'm gonna push and push on this 517 00:28:01,947 --> 00:28:03,779 until I get justice for those two children 518 00:28:03,849 --> 00:28:05,408 and their mother. 519 00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:08,817 Yes, well, I'm sure the Lord Chancellor will have something to say about that. 520 00:28:08,921 --> 00:28:11,015 He wants to see you after adjournment tomorrow. 521 00:28:11,156 --> 00:28:13,022 No, I have another engagement. 522 00:28:14,593 --> 00:28:16,892 Is that wise, Sir John? 523 00:28:16,995 --> 00:28:19,021 Well, possibly not. 524 00:28:19,464 --> 00:28:21,330 But when you conspire to behave corruptly, 525 00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:22,777 it has consequences for all of us. 526 00:28:22,801 --> 00:28:24,895 No one has behaved corruptly. 527 00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:26,080 Yes, well, that's not how it appears. 528 00:28:26,104 --> 00:28:28,733 Now, if you will excuse me, I do have another appointment. 529 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,309 There is one other thing, Sir John. 530 00:28:31,677 --> 00:28:35,409 Sir Monty is refusing to have you sitting in his jurisdiction. 531 00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:40,911 Well, as the presider, that is his right. 532 00:28:41,787 --> 00:28:44,814 You do have the power to move me on elsewhere. 533 00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:46,153 But where? 534 00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:50,560 Yes. Well... 535 00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:54,530 Gosh, John, who are you meeting that you turned down the Lord Chancellor? 536 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:56,295 Rachel Crawcheck. 537 00:28:56,835 --> 00:28:58,235 Therapist. 538 00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:00,637 Do they know about that? 539 00:29:00,706 --> 00:29:03,175 They know everything else about my private life. 540 00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:06,576 You've been in scrapes, but never this serious. 541 00:29:06,678 --> 00:29:08,306 Why don't you keep your mouth shut? 542 00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:10,349 Then neither of us would be in trouble. 543 00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:13,317 What does your head of chambers have to say? 544 00:29:13,785 --> 00:29:15,763 Your press coverage is all anyone wants to talk about. 545 00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:17,221 What are they gonna do, sack me? 546 00:29:17,322 --> 00:29:19,587 Nobody's sacked a judge since 1830. 547 00:29:19,658 --> 00:29:21,251 But can you win? 548 00:29:21,893 --> 00:29:23,953 I'm not sure what winning would mean. 549 00:29:24,029 --> 00:29:25,861 Having Legover back down, for a start. 550 00:29:25,931 --> 00:29:27,866 As long as Brooklands remains free, 551 00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:29,629 the justice system is tainted. 552 00:29:29,701 --> 00:29:32,227 You cannot force the Attorney General 553 00:29:32,304 --> 00:29:33,304 to appeal the sentence. 554 00:29:33,372 --> 00:29:36,968 No, exactly. Alan Peasmarsh is part of the political machine. 555 00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:40,174 Law Officers should be entirely independent, 556 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,407 free to advise the government according to law, 557 00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:43,812 not party interests. 558 00:29:43,915 --> 00:29:46,510 Lower your sights, John. Just go after Monty Everard. 559 00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:49,316 No, that's like treating the symptom and not the cause. 560 00:29:49,421 --> 00:29:52,414 He wouldn't have behaved as he did without a nod from those weasels. 561 00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:55,188 You're either very brave or wholly right, 562 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:56,489 and I don't know which. 563 00:29:56,595 --> 00:29:58,291 Or totally foolish. 564 00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:03,663 Oh, maybe I ought to marry you and look after you. 565 00:30:15,113 --> 00:30:17,139 They're all ready, Judge. 566 00:30:17,382 --> 00:30:19,544 Did we hear from the Attorney General yet? 567 00:30:19,618 --> 00:30:21,553 Sir Alan Peasmarsh is in a meeting, 568 00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:23,350 which is likely to go on all day. 569 00:30:23,422 --> 00:30:25,948 Keep trying, Coop, I want a meeting. 570 00:30:26,992 --> 00:30:30,588 Chief Inspector, after the defendant was charged, 571 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:33,424 can you tell the court what she said? 572 00:30:33,632 --> 00:30:35,464 She changed her story. 573 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:39,027 She said it wasn't intruders who had killed her husband, 574 00:30:39,104 --> 00:30:41,300 it was her following a row. 575 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,772 When did the intruders first enter the story? 576 00:30:46,111 --> 00:30:49,081 When I interviewed both her and her son at the house. 577 00:30:49,147 --> 00:30:51,707 Both had exactly similar stories. 578 00:30:52,217 --> 00:30:53,583 Did you believe them? 579 00:30:53,652 --> 00:30:57,612 At first it seemed to make sense, but we found no sign of burglary. 580 00:30:58,423 --> 00:31:01,450 Did the defendant explain that? 581 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,291 She said Andy had opened the door to them. 582 00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:07,696 Well, the story came apart at the station and she confessed. 583 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,998 Hmm, did you establish a motive? 584 00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:15,106 Well, Mr and Mrs Dobbs rowed frequently. 585 00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:19,042 Mostly about her wanting to leave him and go off with her son. 586 00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:22,710 Mr Dobbs wouldn't agree to a divorce. He's a devout Catholic. 587 00:31:22,781 --> 00:31:25,546 Was that a motive, Chief Inspector? 588 00:31:26,251 --> 00:31:30,655 He couldn't stop her divorcing him after the statutory separation. 589 00:31:31,523 --> 00:31:33,958 Mrs Dobbs was dependent on him financially. 590 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,556 Well, that makes for an even less sound motive for murder. 591 00:31:39,364 --> 00:31:42,926 He held some threat over her about the boy, 592 00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:46,471 but we couldn't get from the defendant what it was. 593 00:31:46,538 --> 00:31:51,135 Well, perhaps we'll learn it during the defence's case. 594 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:53,576 When Mrs Dobbs changed her story, what was your reaction? 595 00:31:53,678 --> 00:31:55,112 Did you believe her? 596 00:31:55,180 --> 00:31:57,877 Not at first. She didn't seem the type. 597 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:01,146 Is there a type that murders their spouse? 598 00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:02,551 Broadly, there is. 599 00:32:02,621 --> 00:32:05,420 Usually more emotionally volatile people. 600 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:08,355 Mrs Dobbs was very demure. 601 00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:12,587 Demure. Dedicated. A close mother. 602 00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:17,994 Yes. Our inquiries suggested she was too close. 603 00:32:18,069 --> 00:32:19,298 Overly protective. 604 00:32:19,404 --> 00:32:22,067 It's most mothers' instinct to protect their young. 605 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:24,541 That's most parents' instinct. 606 00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:26,839 Can a mother, therefore, be overprotective, 607 00:32:26,912 --> 00:32:28,938 especially in today's climate? 608 00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:32,551 Some witnesses say it was cloying. He is 16. 609 00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:37,821 You say that as if it's an age where she should have nothing more to do with him. 610 00:32:39,191 --> 00:32:40,750 Are you a parent? 611 00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:43,418 No. 612 00:32:43,995 --> 00:32:46,362 Then would it be fair to say that your only contact 613 00:32:46,431 --> 00:32:48,627 with young teenagers has been at the rougher end? 614 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:51,864 I have dealt with a lot of kids in trouble. 615 00:32:52,103 --> 00:32:55,631 Would it be true to say that you haven't experienced the kind of anxiety 616 00:32:55,707 --> 00:32:58,472 that most parents have for their children? 617 00:32:58,543 --> 00:33:01,138 Yes, I haven't experienced that. 618 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,714 Then are you in a position to say how protective 619 00:33:04,783 --> 00:33:07,150 a mother should be when her son is being attacked? 620 00:33:07,219 --> 00:33:10,121 She bludgeoned the man to death. 621 00:33:10,722 --> 00:33:15,285 This demure little woman turned into a tiger in defence of her offspring, 622 00:33:16,061 --> 00:33:18,826 who was being attacked by a savage beast. 623 00:33:20,365 --> 00:33:23,199 You do accept he was, at that time, a savage beast? 624 00:33:23,935 --> 00:33:25,904 No, I don't. 625 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,308 Did you look into the history of the victim? 626 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:32,970 No. 627 00:33:33,078 --> 00:33:36,378 Even though he was killed while attacking his son? 628 00:33:36,481 --> 00:33:38,746 Well, we only have her word for that. 629 00:33:38,817 --> 00:33:41,810 You clearly didn't examine the victim's background 630 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,789 other than for clues that might strengthen the motive for murder. 631 00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:48,757 Had you done so, his medical history would have shown 632 00:33:48,827 --> 00:33:52,787 that Mr Dobbs was on a high dose of lithium to stabilise him 633 00:33:53,465 --> 00:33:57,664 and stop his violent and destructive bouts of melancholia. It's here, 634 00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:58,829 in his medical record. 635 00:33:58,904 --> 00:34:01,135 Are you exhibiting these, Mr Powell? 636 00:34:01,239 --> 00:34:04,300 I will be, my lord, along with an independent report from a pathologist 637 00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:07,642 that shows there was no lithium in his blood or organs. 638 00:34:07,913 --> 00:34:09,074 Okay. 639 00:34:09,147 --> 00:34:11,013 This bears out our contention that Mr Dobbs 640 00:34:11,116 --> 00:34:12,948 hadn't been taking his medication. 641 00:34:13,018 --> 00:34:16,546 As a result of this, he was prone to violent outbursts 642 00:34:17,188 --> 00:34:20,750 and splenetic bouts of accusatory paranoia. 643 00:34:22,427 --> 00:34:25,989 In the event of a man prone to such violent outbursts, 644 00:34:27,432 --> 00:34:29,060 is it not reasonable that a loving mother 645 00:34:29,134 --> 00:34:31,694 might lash out to protect her son? 646 00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:35,568 Yes, when put like that. 647 00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:40,741 I'd like to speak to the Attorney General, please. 648 00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:45,210 That's what you keep telling my clerk. 649 00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:47,980 I do intend to speak to Sir Alan and if that doesn't happen soon, 650 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,851 I'm going to come and camp outside his door. 651 00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:53,822 He knows what it's about. 652 00:34:56,895 --> 00:34:58,693 No luck, Judge? 653 00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:00,054 How long can he avoid me? 654 00:35:00,165 --> 00:35:02,430 A lot longer than this. 655 00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:06,238 There's a priest trying to contact you, Judge. 656 00:35:06,304 --> 00:35:08,102 A Father Cattle. 657 00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:10,736 Did he say what it was about? 658 00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:12,367 He wouldn't say. 659 00:35:12,477 --> 00:35:16,141 Perhaps the Lord Chancellor sent him to hear my confession. 660 00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:18,941 Is your brother still pursuing judicial review? 661 00:35:19,017 --> 00:35:20,952 Oh, we're seeing Mrs Mills this evening. 662 00:35:21,019 --> 00:35:22,019 Hmm. 663 00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:27,654 Well, Father Cattle better say what it is he wants. 664 00:35:28,393 --> 00:35:30,794 You haven't forgotten Dr Crawcheck? 665 00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:31,886 No. 666 00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:35,866 Tell me about your day, Sir John. 667 00:35:36,101 --> 00:35:39,071 - What I do? - Is that how you define your day? 668 00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,336 Well, the law takes up most of my time. 669 00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:46,344 Do you wake thinking about the law? 670 00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:48,043 Sometimes. 671 00:35:48,279 --> 00:35:50,339 Reviewing a decision I may have made 672 00:35:50,415 --> 00:35:52,577 or have still to make. 673 00:35:53,885 --> 00:35:57,253 Sometimes worrying about something in the past. 674 00:35:58,123 --> 00:35:59,955 Do you do that often? 675 00:36:00,358 --> 00:36:02,953 Wake up worrying about mistakes I may have made? 676 00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:04,587 No, not often. 677 00:36:05,063 --> 00:36:07,862 Is that because you don't often get it wrong? 678 00:36:07,966 --> 00:36:09,832 Well, I do try not to. 679 00:36:10,402 --> 00:36:12,871 That wasn't what I asked, Sir John. 680 00:36:14,072 --> 00:36:18,305 Well, I sometimes get things wrong, of course. 681 00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:27,615 Making public my row with government law officers 682 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,245 may have been a mistake. 683 00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:33,134 Are you going to do anything about it? 684 00:36:33,158 --> 00:36:36,219 What's the purpose of this line of questioning? 685 00:36:36,594 --> 00:36:39,462 I'm trying to establish that if, when you recognise a mistake, 686 00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:41,260 you're able to put it right. 687 00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:42,390 Ah. 688 00:36:43,268 --> 00:36:44,827 Well, you see, 689 00:36:45,737 --> 00:36:47,672 the problem with the law 690 00:36:47,739 --> 00:36:51,141 is that you often don't realise that you've made a mistake 691 00:36:51,242 --> 00:36:54,440 until someone on the Appellate Bench puts it right. 692 00:36:55,647 --> 00:36:57,411 What about elsewhere? 693 00:37:01,586 --> 00:37:05,546 I don't wake up sweating about mistakes I may have made. 694 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:07,355 Would you recognise them? 695 00:37:07,425 --> 00:37:09,223 I don't have regrets. 696 00:37:10,895 --> 00:37:13,865 Can you tell me about your sexual relationships? 697 00:37:13,965 --> 00:37:16,230 Can you be a little more specific? 698 00:37:16,301 --> 00:37:18,736 Do you ever think about the women you've slept with? 699 00:37:18,837 --> 00:37:19,930 Yes. 700 00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:22,673 Especially if I'm still in bed with them. 701 00:37:23,942 --> 00:37:26,138 The next day, the day after? 702 00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:30,071 They're not my preoccupation. 703 00:37:30,148 --> 00:37:32,276 Could you do without women? 704 00:37:32,684 --> 00:37:34,118 I thought the idea of this 705 00:37:34,185 --> 00:37:37,087 was to get me into the sort of shape where I could successfully 706 00:37:37,155 --> 00:37:38,418 pursue one woman. 707 00:37:38,523 --> 00:37:40,754 Therapy doesn't work like that, Sir John. 708 00:37:43,228 --> 00:37:45,823 I'm scared the Judge isn't gonna survive this. 709 00:37:45,897 --> 00:37:47,889 He's been in other scrapes with the LCD. 710 00:37:47,999 --> 00:37:50,195 Nothing so serious. 711 00:37:51,002 --> 00:37:53,494 What's being said around the Court? 712 00:37:53,805 --> 00:37:55,433 Well, it's thought he's on his way out. 713 00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:57,476 That's not realistic. He's a High Court judge. 714 00:37:57,542 --> 00:38:00,535 No one has ever spoken out like that. 715 00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:04,024 The trouble is the more you tell him not to do something, 716 00:38:04,048 --> 00:38:06,142 the more he tends to do it. 717 00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:09,950 He was right to say what he said, Mrs Mills. 718 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:11,990 It doesn't help him, though, does it? 719 00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:15,124 - Yes? - Mrs Mills? 720 00:38:15,193 --> 00:38:16,661 Mrs Cooper's brother is here. 721 00:38:16,761 --> 00:38:18,229 Show him up. 722 00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:20,989 Will the Judge be all right? 723 00:38:24,068 --> 00:38:26,503 What is your earliest memory as a child? 724 00:38:27,739 --> 00:38:29,799 Um, at the zoo. 725 00:38:30,809 --> 00:38:33,301 My dad giving a monkey a toffee. 726 00:38:33,378 --> 00:38:36,348 The monkey unwrapped the toffee, ate the paper 727 00:38:36,447 --> 00:38:38,313 and threw the toffee away. 728 00:38:38,383 --> 00:38:39,749 I was two. 729 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,548 Is that a happy memory? 730 00:38:41,619 --> 00:38:43,485 I think of it with affection. 731 00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:45,551 You have brothers and sisters? 732 00:38:45,623 --> 00:38:46,989 Yes, an older sister. 733 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:50,595 My mother adopted me after she miscarried 734 00:38:50,662 --> 00:38:52,460 and couldn't have more children. 735 00:38:53,631 --> 00:38:56,396 Why did it take you almost an hour to tell me that? 736 00:38:56,467 --> 00:38:57,901 You didn't ask me. 737 00:38:59,537 --> 00:39:01,597 Does it disturb you, Sir John? 738 00:39:03,274 --> 00:39:06,574 I had a very happy early childhood. 739 00:39:07,545 --> 00:39:10,538 I didn't find out I was adopted until my 50s. 740 00:39:11,449 --> 00:39:14,783 Do you know the circumstances of your separation from your blood mother? 741 00:39:14,886 --> 00:39:16,616 No, didn't need to. 742 00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:19,317 My adoptive mother was my mother, 743 00:39:19,390 --> 00:39:21,416 as far as I was concerned. 744 00:39:22,126 --> 00:39:23,185 Is she still alive? 745 00:39:23,261 --> 00:39:26,060 No, she committed suicide when I was 10. 746 00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:52,090 I think this is painful. 747 00:40:04,302 --> 00:40:06,430 We have to leave it there, Sir John. 748 00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:07,995 Next week at the same time? 749 00:40:10,608 --> 00:40:12,201 Why not? 750 00:40:12,277 --> 00:40:14,337 It's entirely up to you. 751 00:40:16,481 --> 00:40:18,848 Yes, I would like to come again. 752 00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:27,024 You're alone? 753 00:40:27,525 --> 00:40:30,927 Just when I was beginning to think my life was over, 754 00:40:31,462 --> 00:40:34,091 I'm gonna have to spend the whole evening here on my own 755 00:40:34,198 --> 00:40:36,429 and then you walk in. 756 00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:41,300 I saw Coop and her brother. 757 00:40:42,907 --> 00:40:44,899 - Is he going ahead? - We talked about you. 758 00:40:45,009 --> 00:40:46,705 - How you'll survive. - Ah. 759 00:40:47,312 --> 00:40:51,249 Do you remember that animal rights protestor who went on hunger strike? 760 00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:53,876 Well, going on hunger strike is novel. 761 00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:56,285 You'll be the thinnest High Court judge in history. 762 00:40:56,354 --> 00:40:58,414 Charlie said to me then, 763 00:40:59,324 --> 00:41:02,123 "If the law can't deliver justice for him, 764 00:41:02,593 --> 00:41:05,654 "then I don't see any point in carrying on with the law." 765 00:41:05,763 --> 00:41:07,007 I'm beginning to know how she feels. 766 00:41:07,031 --> 00:41:09,830 Judicial suicide won't help. They'll win. 767 00:41:10,568 --> 00:41:11,627 You staying for supper? 768 00:41:13,037 --> 00:41:15,233 Will you give up this fight? 769 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:17,002 Is that your price? 770 00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:19,135 You may have the media on your side, 771 00:41:19,243 --> 00:41:21,075 but can you rely on them? 772 00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:22,340 Public opinion's on my side. 773 00:41:22,447 --> 00:41:24,575 That's even more fickle, John. 774 00:41:24,849 --> 00:41:26,977 All I need is a bit of luck. 775 00:41:27,285 --> 00:41:28,595 You've never fought this way before. 776 00:41:28,619 --> 00:41:31,131 Every other tilt at them has been with the sharpness of your intellect. 777 00:41:31,155 --> 00:41:34,148 - Has it suddenly become dull? - This is about pride. 778 00:41:34,792 --> 00:41:37,728 Now, I don't care if you win or lose. 779 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:39,923 I do care about you. 780 00:41:40,465 --> 00:41:42,263 Stop this. 781 00:41:46,037 --> 00:41:47,630 Let's get married. 782 00:41:53,111 --> 00:41:55,580 - You don't mean that. - Yes, I do. 783 00:41:57,582 --> 00:41:58,582 You're my dream, John. 784 00:41:58,683 --> 00:42:03,417 Ever since I was a young woman and you helped my father when he was in trouble. 785 00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:07,283 You were everything a woman could want. 786 00:42:08,659 --> 00:42:09,854 I think about you every day. 787 00:42:09,961 --> 00:42:11,725 I was too scared to let you in too close 788 00:42:11,796 --> 00:42:16,200 in case you overwhelmed me, but all I ever wanted was to be overwhelmed. 789 00:42:19,604 --> 00:42:22,005 If I was half as smart as you seem to think I am, 790 00:42:22,073 --> 00:42:24,133 I would have realised that. 791 00:42:24,609 --> 00:42:28,444 I've been too busy telling myself I didn't care, I didn't want you. 792 00:42:29,247 --> 00:42:32,877 I've always known you were a womaniser, and perhaps you always will be. 793 00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:34,384 I can pretend you love only me. 794 00:42:34,485 --> 00:42:37,717 I do love only you. Why do you think I'm having therapy? 795 00:42:37,789 --> 00:42:40,918 - So I can commit to one person. - So is that yes? 796 00:42:43,361 --> 00:42:45,330 You'll stop fighting them? 797 00:42:46,764 --> 00:42:49,393 - We'll get married? - Does one depend upon the other? 798 00:42:49,467 --> 00:42:53,165 - I mean, are they mutually exclusive? - Yes, I'm making them so. 799 00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:58,339 To see injustice like that and just let it 800 00:42:59,343 --> 00:43:01,005 slide away without a whimper, 801 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,023 it's more than I could stand. It's more than you could stand. 802 00:43:03,047 --> 00:43:04,572 But there are other fights. 803 00:43:04,682 --> 00:43:08,744 Get to the appeal court. There you can change what governments do. 804 00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:11,688 Don't ask me to back away from this, Jo. 805 00:43:17,728 --> 00:43:21,028 You stupid, stupid man. 806 00:43:30,274 --> 00:43:34,439 Dr Graceman, you carried out a post mortem on Alexander Dobbs. 807 00:43:34,846 --> 00:43:37,975 Can you tell the court the extent of that examination? 808 00:43:38,082 --> 00:43:40,142 It was a full post mortem. 809 00:43:40,384 --> 00:43:42,819 All the major organs, the brain, 810 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,412 tissue and blood were examined. 811 00:43:45,790 --> 00:43:48,988 Was there anything particular in your findings? 812 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,961 The right side of the skull was crushed, 813 00:43:52,029 --> 00:43:55,363 suggesting a blow from behind by a right-handed person. 814 00:43:56,567 --> 00:43:59,662 Splintered bone had severed the carotid artery. 815 00:44:00,438 --> 00:44:04,671 The force of the blow drove a splinter deep into the brain stem. 816 00:44:04,742 --> 00:44:06,870 Death was instantaneous. 817 00:44:07,345 --> 00:44:09,576 Did the second, third and fourth blows 818 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,172 indicate the manner in which he was attacked? 819 00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:15,344 Yes. It was savage, like someone going berserk. 820 00:44:16,721 --> 00:44:19,623 Did you analyse the blood, Doctor? 821 00:44:20,191 --> 00:44:21,386 I did. 822 00:44:21,692 --> 00:44:25,220 In the light of the statement given to the police by the defendant, 823 00:44:25,329 --> 00:44:27,161 I examined the blood 824 00:44:27,465 --> 00:44:30,833 and had a blood scientist examine it as well. 825 00:44:30,902 --> 00:44:34,100 And what was particular to the defendant's statement 826 00:44:34,205 --> 00:44:36,071 that made you do this? 827 00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:40,100 She told the police her husband had been attacking first her 828 00:44:40,244 --> 00:44:41,542 then her son. 829 00:44:41,646 --> 00:44:43,774 It was at that point she hit him. 830 00:44:43,881 --> 00:44:48,581 And did you find any inconsistency in her story? 831 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,153 I did. 832 00:44:50,221 --> 00:44:52,713 If the victim had been attacking first one 833 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:54,952 then the other member of his family, 834 00:44:55,026 --> 00:44:58,554 there would almost certainly have been free adrenaline in his blood 835 00:44:58,996 --> 00:45:01,556 from his stimulated adrenal glands. 836 00:45:01,999 --> 00:45:03,592 We found none. 837 00:45:04,101 --> 00:45:07,196 Does the blood indicate the state of the body 838 00:45:07,271 --> 00:45:09,672 immediately prior to death? 839 00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:13,643 Generally, it indicates whether a person had been drinking, taking drugs, 840 00:45:13,811 --> 00:45:15,837 eating agreeable food. 841 00:45:15,913 --> 00:45:19,714 Were any of these indicators present in Mr Dobbs? 842 00:45:19,951 --> 00:45:24,184 The red platelets indicated he was deeply relaxed, 843 00:45:24,622 --> 00:45:27,888 possibly listening to something like Mozart or Bach. 844 00:45:27,959 --> 00:45:30,758 Would Bach make a difference to the blood? 845 00:45:30,995 --> 00:45:34,762 Indeed, my lord. Something like the cantatas 846 00:45:34,832 --> 00:45:38,030 beneficially affects the alpha rhythms of the brain. 847 00:45:38,102 --> 00:45:41,664 Heavy rock, like Black Sabbath, stimulates the brain, 848 00:45:41,772 --> 00:45:43,900 causing the adrenal glands to overwork. 849 00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:46,104 I'd better tell my daughter. 850 00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:48,543 Does your daughter listen to Black Sabbath, my lord? 851 00:45:48,646 --> 00:45:49,646 I'd be surprised. 852 00:45:50,848 --> 00:45:52,476 She's a big fan. 853 00:45:52,850 --> 00:45:54,751 One of our shared pleasures. 854 00:45:59,323 --> 00:46:02,384 Let us get this right, Dr Graceman. 855 00:46:02,827 --> 00:46:06,389 The assailant would've crept up on the victim, 856 00:46:06,564 --> 00:46:09,398 while he was asleep, and smashed him over the head. 857 00:46:09,467 --> 00:46:11,868 My lord, my learned friend is leading the witness. 858 00:46:11,969 --> 00:46:14,029 Yes, he's going in for the kill, Mr Powell. 859 00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:16,904 Possibly he's been listening to Black Sabbath. 860 00:46:17,008 --> 00:46:21,104 I will try to re-educate my musical taste, sir. 861 00:46:21,212 --> 00:46:23,272 Yes, and rephrase your question. 862 00:46:23,347 --> 00:46:25,782 Well, I withdraw the question. 863 00:46:28,919 --> 00:46:30,285 Doctor. 864 00:46:30,955 --> 00:46:34,824 You said, "If the victim had been on his feet, attacking first one, 865 00:46:34,925 --> 00:46:36,518 "then the other member of his family, 866 00:46:36,594 --> 00:46:40,053 "there would almost certainly be free adrenaline in his blood." 867 00:46:41,532 --> 00:46:43,831 Why "almost certainly", Doctor? 868 00:46:43,934 --> 00:46:46,233 Why can't you be more definite? 869 00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:49,797 Why not, "There would certainly be free adrenaline in his blood"? 870 00:46:49,874 --> 00:46:53,402 Because one can never be absolute. 871 00:46:55,713 --> 00:46:58,308 In other words, it doesn't always happen. 872 00:46:58,382 --> 00:47:01,910 Nor can one be absolute about adrenaline entering the bloodstream, 873 00:47:01,986 --> 00:47:03,682 as you describe. 874 00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:07,822 Is it not true that lithium 875 00:47:07,925 --> 00:47:10,156 suppresses adrenal response? 876 00:47:11,228 --> 00:47:14,824 So, there wouldn't necessarily be adrenaline in the blood. 877 00:47:14,932 --> 00:47:16,594 Yes, it can do. 878 00:47:16,801 --> 00:47:18,565 Thank you, Doctor. 879 00:47:20,071 --> 00:47:22,165 Mr Mason Allen. 880 00:47:25,276 --> 00:47:27,438 Was there lithium in the victim's blood? 881 00:47:27,511 --> 00:47:29,036 None was found. 882 00:47:31,449 --> 00:47:32,974 Thank you, Doctor. 883 00:47:33,584 --> 00:47:35,553 Dr Graceman was my last witness. 884 00:47:35,653 --> 00:47:38,919 And that concludes the case for the Crown, my lord. 885 00:47:42,026 --> 00:47:44,825 The priest, Father Cattle, 886 00:47:44,929 --> 00:47:47,763 is most insistent about seeing you, Judge. 887 00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:49,365 And he won't say what it's about? 888 00:47:49,433 --> 00:47:52,232 He said having read your bold statements in the newspaper 889 00:47:52,303 --> 00:47:53,794 made him bold. 890 00:47:54,372 --> 00:47:56,671 Perhaps it's not my soul he's after. 891 00:47:56,774 --> 00:47:58,299 All right, Coop, make an appointment. 892 00:47:58,409 --> 00:48:00,105 Well, he's in the building now. 893 00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:03,704 Well, I could give him 10 minutes, as I've risen early. 894 00:48:03,814 --> 00:48:05,043 Thanks. 895 00:48:11,655 --> 00:48:15,217 These entries make very interesting reading, Father. 896 00:48:18,396 --> 00:48:21,195 What were you doing with Mr Dobbs' diary? 897 00:48:21,432 --> 00:48:24,266 He wanted me to have it for safekeeping. 898 00:48:24,535 --> 00:48:27,198 - What did he mean by that? - I don't know. 899 00:48:27,972 --> 00:48:29,770 I'm not at liberty to tell what he told me 900 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,832 in confession about his wife and son. 901 00:48:33,811 --> 00:48:35,939 I have no means of knowing if it's true. 902 00:48:37,047 --> 00:48:39,073 He was a troubled soul. 903 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:43,380 I don't know if I can use it now, the prosecution's closed its case. 904 00:48:43,487 --> 00:48:45,183 I think it's too late. 905 00:48:45,289 --> 00:48:48,316 I did wrestle with my conscience for a long while about going to the police. 906 00:48:48,392 --> 00:48:50,691 Yes, I think perhaps you should have done. 907 00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:53,822 Well, I was trying to reconcile the need for justice 908 00:48:54,198 --> 00:48:57,259 with the question of confidence I owe to Mr Dobbs even now. 909 00:48:59,236 --> 00:49:03,173 If what Mr Dobbs has written in his diary is true, 910 00:49:03,774 --> 00:49:07,211 it provides a motive for Mrs Dobbs killing him. 911 00:49:15,319 --> 00:49:18,687 I'll leave it to your conscience how best to use the diary, Sir John. 912 00:49:20,724 --> 00:49:22,886 I'll pray for you to do what's right. 913 00:49:45,716 --> 00:49:47,708 Mrs Dobbs, 914 00:49:47,785 --> 00:49:51,119 was your relationship with your husband a happy one? 915 00:49:52,256 --> 00:49:53,485 No. 916 00:49:54,325 --> 00:49:57,022 I don't know why I married him, really. 917 00:49:57,194 --> 00:49:59,095 No, that's not true. 918 00:49:59,697 --> 00:50:00,926 I do. 919 00:50:02,266 --> 00:50:04,258 It was for support. 920 00:50:04,368 --> 00:50:06,132 Mutual support. 921 00:50:06,971 --> 00:50:10,908 I'd recently lost my mother, who I'd nursed since I was 15. 922 00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:13,539 She'd had a stroke 923 00:50:14,712 --> 00:50:17,648 and begged me not to let her go into a home. 924 00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:23,478 Alec had lost his mother around the same time. 925 00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:26,486 She'd also had a stroke. 926 00:50:26,657 --> 00:50:29,718 We met at the stroke victims support group. 927 00:50:30,628 --> 00:50:33,530 Did you feel anything for the man you married? 928 00:50:33,597 --> 00:50:35,156 I admired him 929 00:50:35,666 --> 00:50:38,465 for supporting his mother the way he did. 930 00:50:40,504 --> 00:50:43,303 Alec had wonderful qualities, 931 00:50:43,407 --> 00:50:45,205 which I thought he'd bring to our marriage, 932 00:50:45,276 --> 00:50:47,336 and, at first, he did. 933 00:50:47,845 --> 00:50:49,746 And when I got pregnant, 934 00:50:51,482 --> 00:50:54,111 I thought they'd develop into love. 935 00:50:55,352 --> 00:50:59,483 But instead, he got more and more demanding. 936 00:51:00,624 --> 00:51:03,093 He accused me of having an affair 937 00:51:04,995 --> 00:51:07,829 and saying Andy wasn't his child. 938 00:51:10,134 --> 00:51:12,831 Were you able to convince him he was? 939 00:51:12,937 --> 00:51:17,033 Only after DNA tests showed that he was the father. 940 00:51:19,176 --> 00:51:21,270 Then he said 941 00:51:21,745 --> 00:51:25,477 I'd slept with the doctor and got him to lie. 942 00:51:27,484 --> 00:51:29,112 Soon after that, 943 00:51:29,787 --> 00:51:32,848 Alec agreed to have psychiatric treatment. 944 00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:34,822 Did this help at all? 945 00:51:36,126 --> 00:51:37,890 He quietened down, 946 00:51:38,996 --> 00:51:41,124 was less accusatory. 947 00:51:42,967 --> 00:51:45,527 Then he started finding fault with Andy. 948 00:51:45,836 --> 00:51:48,101 What sort of fault, Mrs Dobbs? 949 00:51:50,441 --> 00:51:51,841 He said... 950 00:51:52,843 --> 00:51:56,041 He said his ears stuck out too much, 951 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,244 that they were too low. 952 00:51:58,315 --> 00:52:00,511 His eyes were too wide apart, 953 00:52:00,618 --> 00:52:02,143 he was too small. 954 00:52:02,252 --> 00:52:04,312 And then when Andy grew older, 955 00:52:04,388 --> 00:52:06,550 he was too slow, he wasn't strong enough. 956 00:52:06,657 --> 00:52:09,525 Andy didn't stand a chance. 957 00:52:09,593 --> 00:52:12,427 Did the psychiatrist say anything about this? 958 00:52:14,832 --> 00:52:16,323 He told me 959 00:52:17,167 --> 00:52:20,831 perfectionism was a side effect of his medication. 960 00:52:23,807 --> 00:52:25,366 And coldness 961 00:52:26,243 --> 00:52:28,075 and remoteness. 962 00:52:29,046 --> 00:52:31,880 Did you and your husband enjoy a physical relationship? 963 00:52:36,053 --> 00:52:37,282 No. 964 00:52:40,958 --> 00:52:44,292 Impotence was another side effect. 965 00:52:46,030 --> 00:52:48,522 Did he seek medical help for that? 966 00:52:51,335 --> 00:52:52,963 He refused to. 967 00:52:54,405 --> 00:52:57,239 He said the problem was mine. 968 00:52:58,976 --> 00:53:01,275 I was sexually uninteresting. 969 00:53:02,846 --> 00:53:04,280 That I was frigid. 970 00:53:04,348 --> 00:53:06,340 Were you, Mrs Dobbs? 971 00:53:08,452 --> 00:53:10,387 I've no way of telling. 972 00:53:12,923 --> 00:53:14,858 I'd only known Alec. 973 00:53:14,958 --> 00:53:18,759 You hadn't been with another man before or during your marriage? 974 00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:21,829 No, I'm afraid I haven't. 975 00:53:21,932 --> 00:53:23,059 Mrs Dobbs, 976 00:53:23,167 --> 00:53:25,864 such fidelity is something for which we might admire you, 977 00:53:25,969 --> 00:53:27,801 rather than judge you. 978 00:53:28,672 --> 00:53:29,696 Mrs Dobbs, 979 00:53:29,807 --> 00:53:31,418 would you take a look at this medical record? 980 00:53:31,442 --> 00:53:33,809 Tell the court if you recognise it. 981 00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:42,048 Yes, this is 982 00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,487 my husband's psychiatric record. 983 00:53:45,689 --> 00:53:49,217 You can see Dr Jackman's signature on the medication instructions. 984 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,530 Did Dr Jackman, at any time, warn you that 985 00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:55,700 your husband might react in this way to his medication? 986 00:53:55,766 --> 00:53:58,998 When I complained to him about what it was doing, 987 00:54:00,671 --> 00:54:01,934 he said, 988 00:54:02,272 --> 00:54:07,438 would I sooner have a paranoiac accusing me of things I hadn't done? 989 00:54:07,511 --> 00:54:09,207 He didn't offer to change it? 990 00:54:11,148 --> 00:54:12,148 No. 991 00:54:13,817 --> 00:54:15,445 See, Alec wasn't 992 00:54:15,753 --> 00:54:18,518 physically violent all the while. 993 00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:21,585 His comments were. 994 00:54:22,493 --> 00:54:25,486 These, he said, were for my own good. 995 00:54:28,999 --> 00:54:32,128 His mother was his ideal. 996 00:54:32,803 --> 00:54:36,604 He said I fell a million miles short of her and that he should never 997 00:54:36,673 --> 00:54:39,472 have brought me into her sacred home. 998 00:54:39,676 --> 00:54:43,613 Mrs Dobbs, you were a relatively young and healthy woman. Why didn't you leave? 999 00:54:45,249 --> 00:54:47,741 Because I felt sorry for Alec. 1000 00:54:50,454 --> 00:54:53,185 I thought I could help him change. 1001 00:54:53,924 --> 00:54:56,189 Did he show any signs of improving? 1002 00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:57,420 No. 1003 00:54:57,761 --> 00:54:59,195 He got worse. 1004 00:55:00,197 --> 00:55:02,166 Yes. Mrs Dobbs, 1005 00:55:03,233 --> 00:55:09,173 on November the 8th, last year, 1006 00:55:10,641 --> 00:55:13,907 did you tell your sister-in-law, Madeline Carole, 1007 00:55:14,011 --> 00:55:17,209 that you'd do anything to get rid of your husband? 1008 00:55:17,614 --> 00:55:18,673 No. 1009 00:55:19,883 --> 00:55:21,146 I didn't. 1010 00:55:23,554 --> 00:55:24,764 I don't know what they're talking about. 1011 00:55:24,788 --> 00:55:26,450 On December 1012 00:55:27,858 --> 00:55:29,121 the 10th, 1013 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,292 did you tell Mrs Carole 1014 00:55:31,361 --> 00:55:34,798 that you were going to force your husband to sell the house 1015 00:55:34,898 --> 00:55:38,027 - so that you could go away with Andy... - My lord, 1016 00:55:38,135 --> 00:55:41,401 while we always appreciate your helpful comments, 1017 00:55:41,471 --> 00:55:46,171 I am concerned to know if Madeline Carole is somehow being called 1018 00:55:46,376 --> 00:55:48,971 now the prosecution's case is closed. 1019 00:55:51,615 --> 00:55:52,844 Unless you want to call her? 1020 00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:57,451 Go on. 1021 00:55:59,523 --> 00:56:00,889 Mrs Dobbs, 1022 00:56:02,192 --> 00:56:04,718 did you, in fact, seek a divorce? 1023 00:56:05,929 --> 00:56:07,522 Yeah, finally... 1024 00:56:08,932 --> 00:56:12,027 Finally, I had to, for Andy's sake. 1025 00:56:12,970 --> 00:56:16,134 And then Alec said he would kill himself if we left. 1026 00:56:16,206 --> 00:56:20,234 That's a different picture from that painted by the prosecution. 1027 00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:23,280 Was your husband different with other people? 1028 00:56:23,881 --> 00:56:25,281 Entirely. 1029 00:56:25,816 --> 00:56:28,285 Oh, he was a bit dull, 1030 00:56:29,686 --> 00:56:31,120 but perfectly pleasant. 1031 00:56:31,188 --> 00:56:35,091 What triggered his attack on that fatal Sunday afternoon? 1032 00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:37,593 Um, we'd... 1033 00:56:38,795 --> 00:56:40,957 We'd been to morning mass, 1034 00:56:41,098 --> 00:56:43,294 and back at the house, he... 1035 00:56:43,901 --> 00:56:47,360 He accused me of trying to pick up a man in church. 1036 00:56:47,471 --> 00:56:48,803 Were you? 1037 00:56:49,139 --> 00:56:50,198 No. 1038 00:56:52,643 --> 00:56:54,236 No, he kept... 1039 00:56:54,478 --> 00:56:56,970 He kept telling me I was vile 1040 00:56:57,114 --> 00:56:59,345 and Andy was the son of Satan, 1041 00:56:59,816 --> 00:57:03,275 and he would call Father Cattle to have him exorcised. 1042 00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:08,650 I locked Andy in my room with me, 1043 00:57:09,993 --> 00:57:14,522 hoping that Alec would just calm down. 1044 00:57:16,733 --> 00:57:19,032 Hoping his mania would pass. 1045 00:57:19,336 --> 00:57:22,135 And when I came down two hours later, he was... 1046 00:57:22,205 --> 00:57:24,333 He was waiting for me. 1047 00:57:25,509 --> 00:57:27,637 He seized me by the throat, 1048 00:57:27,844 --> 00:57:29,403 hissing at me. 1049 00:57:30,013 --> 00:57:31,572 I was the devil. 1050 00:57:31,648 --> 00:57:34,208 That's when Andy came at him and hit him. 1051 00:57:34,284 --> 00:57:36,310 I thought you said that you hit him. 1052 00:57:36,420 --> 00:57:37,547 Yes. 1053 00:57:38,488 --> 00:57:41,458 I did, with the baseball bat. 1054 00:57:41,858 --> 00:57:44,521 Andy hit him on the back with his fists, 1055 00:57:44,594 --> 00:57:46,620 and only his fists. 1056 00:57:51,401 --> 00:57:54,394 Alec turned on him and seized him. 1057 00:57:55,005 --> 00:57:57,270 Where did he have hold of him? 1058 00:57:57,674 --> 00:57:59,802 Round the throat. 1059 00:58:01,011 --> 00:58:04,106 He was... All I could hear was him hissing. 1060 00:58:05,949 --> 00:58:07,679 "Son of a serpent!" 1061 00:58:08,652 --> 00:58:11,622 Shaking him. Shaking him violently. 1062 00:58:12,389 --> 00:58:14,915 I tried to break his grip, but he was... 1063 00:58:14,992 --> 00:58:18,190 He was locked tight, like a dog bite. 1064 00:58:18,295 --> 00:58:20,696 And then Andy started going bright red, 1065 00:58:20,797 --> 00:58:23,357 and I grabbed a baseball bat and I hit him! 1066 00:58:24,634 --> 00:58:29,038 And it just didn't seem to make much difference, so I hit him again. 1067 00:58:40,350 --> 00:58:41,875 And he was... 1068 00:58:42,152 --> 00:58:43,677 He was still. 1069 00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:48,325 He was just still. 1070 00:58:51,361 --> 00:58:52,727 I'm sorry. 1071 00:59:02,606 --> 00:59:05,337 That poor woman. How she stood by him. 1072 00:59:06,443 --> 00:59:09,242 - You buy her story? - Don't you? 1073 00:59:09,513 --> 00:59:11,175 I saw the dead man's diary. 1074 00:59:11,248 --> 00:59:13,649 Yeah, but he was paranoid, Judge. 1075 00:59:16,019 --> 00:59:19,285 Are we anywhere with my meeting with the Attorney General? 1076 00:59:19,356 --> 00:59:23,054 He won't meet with you, Judge. Well, not willingly, anyway. 1077 00:59:26,129 --> 00:59:28,030 Then I'll doorstep him. 1078 00:59:32,969 --> 00:59:34,562 I'll enjoy this. 1079 00:59:38,075 --> 00:59:40,237 You are on the Attorney's list of calls, Sir John. 1080 00:59:40,310 --> 00:59:41,642 He will get back to you. 1081 00:59:41,711 --> 00:59:44,180 It has to be within a meaningful time frame. 1082 00:59:44,247 --> 00:59:46,512 Sir Alan does understand the urgency, sir. 1083 00:59:46,616 --> 00:59:48,676 See, I don't think he does. 1084 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,653 As long as I'm here, I'll wait. 1085 00:59:53,056 --> 00:59:56,254 Oh. I'm afraid Sir Alan isn't here. 1086 00:59:56,393 --> 00:59:57,759 Then I'll sit here until he is. 1087 00:59:57,861 --> 01:00:00,956 Perhaps you'd be good enough to find me a chair. 1088 01:00:06,803 --> 01:00:08,431 Sir John, do we have a meeting? 1089 01:00:08,538 --> 01:00:10,734 We ought to have done long before this. 1090 01:00:10,807 --> 01:00:13,709 The 28 days you have to appeal his sentence is running out. 1091 01:00:13,810 --> 01:00:15,972 Oh, look, I'm sorry I haven't returned your calls. 1092 01:00:16,046 --> 01:00:18,481 The last few days have been particularly hectic. 1093 01:00:18,582 --> 01:00:21,609 Your press interview created a real hornet's nest. 1094 01:00:21,685 --> 01:00:23,244 Yes, it was meant to. 1095 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,755 Yes, well, to be absolutely honest with you, 1096 01:00:25,856 --> 01:00:28,690 I would prefer that this office and that of the other Law Officers 1097 01:00:28,758 --> 01:00:30,556 be entirely independent, 1098 01:00:30,660 --> 01:00:32,253 but they're not. 1099 01:00:32,462 --> 01:00:35,830 And now we have to deal with the political fallout. 1100 01:00:35,932 --> 01:00:38,993 You've sanctioned a grave miscarriage of justice. 1101 01:00:39,102 --> 01:00:40,832 Or perhaps you were one of its co-authors. 1102 01:00:40,937 --> 01:00:42,115 I was no such thing. 1103 01:00:42,139 --> 01:00:43,539 Either way, the remedy is simple, 1104 01:00:43,607 --> 01:00:45,235 you must appeal Brooklands' sentence. 1105 01:00:45,342 --> 01:00:47,834 I might well have done. But now, as a result of your actions, 1106 01:00:47,911 --> 01:00:50,073 the remedy is far from easy. 1107 01:00:51,448 --> 01:00:53,610 There isn't a single member of the cabinet 1108 01:00:53,683 --> 01:00:56,312 who isn't calling for your resignation. 1109 01:00:56,419 --> 01:00:58,911 My advice to you, Sir John, 1110 01:00:59,623 --> 01:01:02,286 would be to lower your profile. 1111 01:01:02,459 --> 01:01:05,486 Yes. That still leaves a grave injustice. 1112 01:01:06,296 --> 01:01:08,629 But then, he is a big contributor to party funds. 1113 01:01:08,732 --> 01:01:11,395 This really is an abuse of privilege. 1114 01:01:11,701 --> 01:01:15,866 Either you begin the process to appeal his ludicrously light sentence, 1115 01:01:15,972 --> 01:01:20,000 or I shall take up the invitation I've received to speak at length 1116 01:01:20,076 --> 01:01:21,806 to Newsnight. 1117 01:01:23,246 --> 01:01:27,274 - Deed's gone completely mad, Joe. - One always thought he would. 1118 01:01:27,384 --> 01:01:29,819 This has become a personal vendetta for him. 1119 01:01:29,886 --> 01:01:32,219 Deed seems to imagine that he's the only man in England 1120 01:01:32,289 --> 01:01:33,951 capable of delivering justice. 1121 01:01:34,057 --> 01:01:37,357 Perhaps one did lean towards leniency with Brooklands, 1122 01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:38,985 but it was an accident. 1123 01:01:39,095 --> 01:01:40,688 The man's learnt his lesson. 1124 01:01:40,764 --> 01:01:43,598 You know, a prison sentence would've been pointless. 1125 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,778 However, whatever the rights or the wrongs of the case, 1126 01:01:45,802 --> 01:01:48,431 one does not criticise a brother judge. 1127 01:01:48,538 --> 01:01:50,200 It's entirely bad form. 1128 01:01:50,273 --> 01:01:53,141 Mind you, I would've given Brooklands six years. 1129 01:01:53,210 --> 01:01:55,304 Thank you for your support. 1130 01:01:55,579 --> 01:01:57,844 Oh, did you see these? 1131 01:02:00,383 --> 01:02:02,284 It's Deed and Mills 1132 01:02:02,352 --> 01:02:05,015 just before she spent the night at his lodgings 1133 01:02:05,121 --> 01:02:07,556 last year, when she was before him. 1134 01:02:07,657 --> 01:02:10,183 Does it look like they're not having an affair? 1135 01:02:10,293 --> 01:02:11,989 It does not. 1136 01:02:12,095 --> 01:02:14,724 These were taken at the lodgings. 1137 01:02:14,864 --> 01:02:17,561 Deed not only denies that they were having an affair, 1138 01:02:17,634 --> 01:02:20,433 but he says that they weren't in bed together. 1139 01:02:21,137 --> 01:02:23,868 Ian Rochester proposes releasing them to the press 1140 01:02:23,974 --> 01:02:25,067 as a counter-offensive. 1141 01:02:25,175 --> 01:02:29,510 No, no, no. That would be doing what Deed himself has been doing. 1142 01:02:30,313 --> 01:02:32,407 In a good cause, Joe. 1143 01:02:35,452 --> 01:02:36,647 Maybe. 1144 01:02:45,528 --> 01:02:47,463 - Ah. - Joe. 1145 01:02:48,064 --> 01:02:50,533 You're about early. Do you want some breakfast? 1146 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,331 It was never a meal that interested me. 1147 01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:55,367 Some coffee perhaps? 1148 01:03:01,745 --> 01:03:04,271 You here to see me or Monty Everard? 1149 01:03:04,514 --> 01:03:05,791 He doesn't sleep here, you know. 1150 01:03:05,815 --> 01:03:08,216 I'm surprised you can bear to be in the same building. 1151 01:03:08,285 --> 01:03:10,413 Well, he has asked that I be moved. 1152 01:03:10,487 --> 01:03:15,118 He's more inclined to have you removed from the bench altogether. 1153 01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:18,728 Your public utterances have been disgraceful. 1154 01:03:18,795 --> 01:03:20,923 I doubt if the public would agree with you. 1155 01:03:20,997 --> 01:03:24,525 We don't have trial by mob, thank God, but between the two of you, 1156 01:03:24,601 --> 01:03:26,934 you seem to be trying to take what was, hitherto, 1157 01:03:27,003 --> 01:03:30,132 the preserve of gentlemen 1158 01:03:30,206 --> 01:03:31,834 into the gutter. 1159 01:03:32,075 --> 01:03:34,806 Does it really matter, as long as justice is delivered? 1160 01:03:34,878 --> 01:03:36,403 It certainly does. 1161 01:03:36,479 --> 01:03:39,005 Otherwise, we'd simply have people hacking each other to death 1162 01:03:39,082 --> 01:03:40,641 and calling it "justice". 1163 01:03:42,018 --> 01:03:43,509 Which is why 1164 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,146 I will not condone 1165 01:03:46,523 --> 01:03:48,321 the release of these 1166 01:03:49,125 --> 01:03:50,559 to the press. 1167 01:03:58,168 --> 01:03:59,761 Where did you get these? 1168 01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:01,737 Does it really matter? 1169 01:04:01,805 --> 01:04:04,969 Ian Rochester proposes releasing them, 1170 01:04:05,141 --> 01:04:08,009 and my disapproval will not prevent it. 1171 01:04:13,383 --> 01:04:16,649 - Thanks for the warning, Joe. - I didn't do it for your sake. 1172 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,021 The only way you can avoid bringing the bench into total disrepute 1173 01:04:21,091 --> 01:04:24,755 is for you to apologise to Monty Everard, and then 1174 01:04:25,929 --> 01:04:26,953 to resign. 1175 01:04:27,063 --> 01:04:28,190 No. 1176 01:04:28,531 --> 01:04:31,501 Not as long as Brooklands remains at liberty. 1177 01:04:33,603 --> 01:04:35,538 Then the consequences 1178 01:04:36,773 --> 01:04:38,674 will be unspeakable. 1179 01:04:45,415 --> 01:04:46,713 Mrs Dobbs, 1180 01:04:47,784 --> 01:04:51,551 the relationship you described as existing with your husband 1181 01:04:52,522 --> 01:04:54,923 is far from the truth, is it not? 1182 01:04:55,492 --> 01:04:57,461 It's exactly as it was. 1183 01:04:57,761 --> 01:05:00,458 Hostile, accusatory. 1184 01:05:02,098 --> 01:05:05,796 A very different picture emerged from the police inquiries. 1185 01:05:06,536 --> 01:05:09,233 You were a quiet couple, were you not? 1186 01:05:10,340 --> 01:05:11,933 Yes, sometimes. 1187 01:05:13,176 --> 01:05:15,441 But, mostly, it was like I said. 1188 01:05:16,346 --> 01:05:19,510 Why is it outsiders saw only a mild-mannered man? 1189 01:05:20,049 --> 01:05:22,018 Always courteous and polite. 1190 01:05:22,085 --> 01:05:23,883 Alec was clever, 1191 01:05:24,554 --> 01:05:26,079 sly in his ways. 1192 01:05:26,156 --> 01:05:28,455 And never once got caught out? 1193 01:05:29,025 --> 01:05:32,518 His sort pour their venom on those closest to them, 1194 01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:35,258 the ones that can do little about it. 1195 01:05:35,331 --> 01:05:38,392 What you're describing, Mrs Dobbs, is a psychopath. 1196 01:05:40,170 --> 01:05:44,608 Nothing in your husband's medical records indicates such tendencies. 1197 01:05:45,742 --> 01:05:49,543 Are you saying the psychiatrists missed this? 1198 01:05:50,747 --> 01:05:53,478 Alec could fool most people 1199 01:05:54,584 --> 01:05:58,817 with that charming, wouldn't-hurt-a-fly manner of his. 1200 01:05:59,722 --> 01:06:02,453 You're honestly expecting this court 1201 01:06:02,525 --> 01:06:05,757 to believe that no one else saw that in him, hmm? 1202 01:06:07,297 --> 01:06:10,665 You had to live with him to know how clever he was. 1203 01:06:12,235 --> 01:06:16,434 I know he couldn't help it. It was his illness. 1204 01:06:17,507 --> 01:06:21,638 But he was such a master of deception. 1205 01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:26,814 Oh, he knew how to be charming, all right, 1206 01:06:27,617 --> 01:06:31,452 until we closed that front door, and then I would get it! 1207 01:06:39,462 --> 01:06:42,557 Mr Usher, may I have the baseball bat, please? 1208 01:06:43,967 --> 01:06:46,732 Out of the container, if nobody objects. 1209 01:06:52,809 --> 01:06:56,041 Mrs Dobbs, this might be very distressing for you, 1210 01:06:56,145 --> 01:06:58,614 but would you mind holding the bat? 1211 01:06:59,516 --> 01:07:00,882 Would you? 1212 01:07:14,898 --> 01:07:18,130 Now, would you swing it as you used it to subdue your husband? 1213 01:07:32,916 --> 01:07:35,010 Do you think the blow was like that? 1214 01:07:35,084 --> 01:07:36,712 Harder, I'd say. 1215 01:07:39,622 --> 01:07:43,423 Yes, it must be very upsetting for you. Thank you, Mr Usher. 1216 01:07:46,362 --> 01:07:49,958 Well, this does seem like a convenient moment. 1217 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,201 I must remind the jury not to discuss this case 1218 01:07:53,303 --> 01:07:56,330 other than when all together until the morning. Thank you. 1219 01:08:02,445 --> 01:08:03,743 Come in. 1220 01:08:05,915 --> 01:08:08,510 A mysterious man just handed this in. 1221 01:08:10,219 --> 01:08:12,120 Hope it's not a bomb, Jo. 1222 01:08:12,221 --> 01:08:14,349 Might liven things up a bit. 1223 01:08:18,962 --> 01:08:20,453 You okay, Jo? 1224 01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:22,358 Yes, I'm fine. 1225 01:08:42,085 --> 01:08:44,611 Mrs Mills is at the door, my lord. 1226 01:08:44,854 --> 01:08:45,854 Bring her in, then. 1227 01:08:45,922 --> 01:08:48,153 She doesn't wish to enter the house, Sir John. 1228 01:08:50,026 --> 01:08:51,517 She doesn't. 1229 01:08:58,668 --> 01:09:01,331 Jo, why won't you come in? 1230 01:09:05,908 --> 01:09:07,433 They arrived at chambers a while ago. 1231 01:09:07,543 --> 01:09:10,377 If you don't stop this, someone is going to publish them. 1232 01:09:11,581 --> 01:09:13,209 You know where they came from, don't you? 1233 01:09:13,282 --> 01:09:14,910 Getting any work? 1234 01:09:15,451 --> 01:09:17,784 Empty promises from clerks, that's all. 1235 01:09:17,854 --> 01:09:20,756 I have a feeling that might change quite soon. 1236 01:09:20,857 --> 01:09:22,917 What are you going to do? 1237 01:09:23,059 --> 01:09:24,152 Oh, no. 1238 01:09:24,260 --> 01:09:25,938 Don't do anything that would make this worse. 1239 01:09:25,962 --> 01:09:27,555 How can I make things worse 1240 01:09:27,664 --> 01:09:30,099 than a bunch of cowards getting at you to make me stop? 1241 01:09:30,166 --> 01:09:31,600 Why would I accede to that? 1242 01:09:31,701 --> 01:09:34,000 Because I want you to. 1243 01:09:34,971 --> 01:09:36,963 Why can't you let this one go? 1244 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,099 You don't mean that, Jo. 1245 01:09:38,174 --> 01:09:39,403 I do. 1246 01:09:40,476 --> 01:09:43,241 I will marry you if that's what you want, 1247 01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,676 but it's me or this fight. 1248 01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:53,952 Oh, am I getting an apology? 1249 01:09:54,057 --> 01:09:56,720 I've sent copies of these to the Attorney General. 1250 01:09:56,826 --> 01:09:59,227 He'd better agree to appeal Brooklands's sentence. 1251 01:09:59,362 --> 01:10:00,762 If he doesn't, 1252 01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:02,798 then I'll contact the Times again 1253 01:10:02,899 --> 01:10:06,461 and explain how you're using paparazzi shots to force me to resign. 1254 01:10:06,536 --> 01:10:08,596 You might just overreach yourself, sir. 1255 01:10:08,705 --> 01:10:11,641 And tell the Attorney and Sir Ian to lay off Jo Mills while you're at it. 1256 01:10:11,741 --> 01:10:13,607 This is preposterous! 1257 01:10:25,254 --> 01:10:26,694 The whole notion's utterly offensive. 1258 01:10:27,690 --> 01:10:29,249 Come in. 1259 01:10:29,325 --> 01:10:30,816 We're sorry we're late, Sir Ian. 1260 01:10:30,893 --> 01:10:32,725 No matter, Laurence. 1261 01:10:34,931 --> 01:10:38,060 You know Laurence James, our circuit administrator. 1262 01:10:38,134 --> 01:10:39,932 Perhaps you'd take a note, Laurence. 1263 01:10:40,002 --> 01:10:42,528 Civil service habit, Monty. 1264 01:10:45,742 --> 01:10:47,040 My position doesn't change. 1265 01:10:47,143 --> 01:10:50,443 It would be foolish to accede to Deed's demands. 1266 01:10:50,546 --> 01:10:53,607 Well, it seems you may have misjudged the public mood, Monty. 1267 01:10:53,683 --> 01:10:57,085 I sentenced Brooklands as I would have anyone on such a similar charge. 1268 01:10:57,186 --> 01:10:59,917 The decision to appeal the sentence is for you, Alan, 1269 01:11:00,022 --> 01:11:02,048 but with Deed pushing as he is, 1270 01:11:02,125 --> 01:11:04,321 the bad press isn't gonna go away. 1271 01:11:04,427 --> 01:11:07,955 He'll drag in everyone, and we know who'll be the loser. 1272 01:11:08,331 --> 01:11:09,890 Is there any truth to his allegations? 1273 01:11:09,966 --> 01:11:12,697 It matters not a jot if there is or isn't. 1274 01:11:12,769 --> 01:11:16,103 The collateral damage increases the longer we delay. 1275 01:11:16,739 --> 01:11:20,608 Yes, well, I suppose an appeal is the way it has to go, Monty. 1276 01:11:21,177 --> 01:11:23,976 I'm to be led like a lamb to the slaughter? 1277 01:11:24,046 --> 01:11:25,446 Hardly. 1278 01:11:26,182 --> 01:11:27,741 Who would hear the appeal? 1279 01:11:34,323 --> 01:11:36,292 Why not Mr Justice Deed? 1280 01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:40,627 Oh, don't be fatuous, Mr James. He's not an appeal court judge. 1281 01:11:40,696 --> 01:11:43,757 Deed could sit as a winger in the appeal court. 1282 01:11:46,769 --> 01:11:47,846 What's your thinking, Laurence? 1283 01:11:47,870 --> 01:11:50,203 Well, sir, if Deed heard this case, 1284 01:11:50,306 --> 01:11:52,775 he's so incandescent about the whole issue, 1285 01:11:52,842 --> 01:11:55,471 he's bound to come down too hard on the appellant. 1286 01:11:55,578 --> 01:11:57,444 Brooklands will then have righteous ground 1287 01:11:57,547 --> 01:12:00,278 for a second appeal against sentence. 1288 01:12:00,383 --> 01:12:01,476 Hmm. 1289 01:12:02,518 --> 01:12:04,077 It has merit, Monty. 1290 01:12:04,187 --> 01:12:06,965 And that would square the circle for the cabinet and political opinion, 1291 01:12:06,989 --> 01:12:09,515 and leave Deed wrong-footed. 1292 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,567 I won't go along with it, Clive. 1293 01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:21,046 They can't force me to stand trial again. 1294 01:12:21,070 --> 01:12:22,732 They can and they are. 1295 01:12:22,805 --> 01:12:24,330 They're appealing your sentence. 1296 01:12:24,407 --> 01:12:27,434 It's thought to be so light as to diminish the law. 1297 01:12:29,212 --> 01:12:32,478 Well, I shall... I shall simply leave the country. 1298 01:12:32,582 --> 01:12:35,780 James, they're relying on us to play ball. 1299 01:12:35,852 --> 01:12:37,963 That's why we got the call from the Attorney General's office 1300 01:12:37,987 --> 01:12:39,717 to come in for a chat. 1301 01:12:48,931 --> 01:12:50,126 Andy, 1302 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,331 I want you to think very carefully about what I'm going to ask you. 1303 01:12:56,505 --> 01:12:58,440 You told defence counsel 1304 01:12:58,641 --> 01:13:01,543 your father was attacking first your mother, 1305 01:13:02,178 --> 01:13:03,476 then yourself. 1306 01:13:03,579 --> 01:13:05,980 Is that absolutely true? 1307 01:13:08,584 --> 01:13:11,383 I know you're close to your mother, Andy, 1308 01:13:12,021 --> 01:13:14,115 but she can't help you now. 1309 01:13:16,225 --> 01:13:17,659 Yes, it... 1310 01:13:18,527 --> 01:13:20,723 It was the truth. 1311 01:13:20,830 --> 01:13:24,289 And if I were to tell you that forensic experts stated 1312 01:13:24,367 --> 01:13:25,926 that your father's blood indicated 1313 01:13:26,002 --> 01:13:28,528 that he couldn't have been fighting, 1314 01:13:28,604 --> 01:13:29,804 that he was probably asleep... 1315 01:13:29,939 --> 01:13:30,963 No. 1316 01:13:32,842 --> 01:13:34,811 It happened like I said. 1317 01:13:36,946 --> 01:13:38,642 How was that again? 1318 01:13:40,182 --> 01:13:43,243 Dad was very angry and... 1319 01:13:43,819 --> 01:13:45,981 And shouting at Mum when I... 1320 01:13:46,055 --> 01:13:49,184 When I tried to stop him, he attacked me and then Jan. 1321 01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:52,558 He attacked you, then your mother? 1322 01:13:53,362 --> 01:13:55,729 That's different to what you told defence. 1323 01:13:55,831 --> 01:13:57,561 Which was it? 1324 01:13:57,667 --> 01:13:59,568 I'm not sure. 1325 01:14:00,970 --> 01:14:02,802 He was shouting and... 1326 01:14:03,372 --> 01:14:05,170 And calling us filthy names. 1327 01:14:05,241 --> 01:14:06,334 Ah. 1328 01:14:06,776 --> 01:14:10,235 What names did he call you? 1329 01:14:11,447 --> 01:14:14,611 - Don't remember. - I think you do, Andy, don't you? 1330 01:14:14,684 --> 01:14:16,380 Son of a serpent. 1331 01:14:16,852 --> 01:14:18,582 Was that what he called you? 1332 01:14:18,654 --> 01:14:20,452 - Son of a serpent? - No. 1333 01:14:20,890 --> 01:14:24,088 Ah, then perhaps he was talking in his sleep, then? 1334 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,925 I mean, he was asleep 1335 01:14:27,430 --> 01:14:28,693 when she hit him, wasn't he? 1336 01:14:28,764 --> 01:14:30,460 No, she didn't... 1337 01:14:31,968 --> 01:14:34,733 - He wasn't. - You're covering up for her, aren't you? 1338 01:14:34,804 --> 01:14:38,206 This poor, drug-subdued man, your father... 1339 01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:40,538 No, he was angry. He was! 1340 01:14:40,609 --> 01:14:42,578 That's simply not true. 1341 01:14:42,912 --> 01:14:46,007 He'd fallen asleep from his drugs, she crept up on him 1342 01:14:46,082 --> 01:14:47,744 - and hit him. - No! 1343 01:14:48,284 --> 01:14:49,445 - No... - She did, didn't she? 1344 01:14:49,552 --> 01:14:50,611 No! 1345 01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:52,586 He found us in bed. 1346 01:14:52,655 --> 01:14:54,123 What? 1347 01:14:56,692 --> 01:14:58,752 I mean, in the bedroom, we... 1348 01:14:58,861 --> 01:15:00,727 - We were hiding. - That's not what you said. 1349 01:15:00,830 --> 01:15:02,264 - Yeah... - No! 1350 01:15:03,466 --> 01:15:05,560 You said "in bed". 1351 01:15:05,668 --> 01:15:08,695 I meant "in the bedroom". 1352 01:15:10,806 --> 01:15:12,206 Andy, 1353 01:15:15,611 --> 01:15:18,137 your father wrote in his diary 1354 01:15:18,781 --> 01:15:22,445 that you were having sexual relations with your mother. 1355 01:15:24,220 --> 01:15:26,280 And he wasn't being paranoid, was he? 1356 01:15:26,389 --> 01:15:27,482 He was. 1357 01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:28,590 Mrs Dobbs. 1358 01:15:28,657 --> 01:15:31,149 My lord, this is undue intervention. 1359 01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:33,024 I... We were... 1360 01:15:33,429 --> 01:15:35,364 In the bedroom! 1361 01:15:35,464 --> 01:15:38,400 It wasn't just a suspicion. 1362 01:15:39,535 --> 01:15:41,197 He made several entries. 1363 01:15:41,303 --> 01:15:44,467 - He was sick! - Mrs Dobbs, you will remain silent. 1364 01:15:48,144 --> 01:15:51,114 Andy, how many times 1365 01:15:51,847 --> 01:15:53,645 were you in bed with your mother? 1366 01:15:56,052 --> 01:15:57,782 He found you, didn't he? 1367 01:15:57,853 --> 01:15:59,719 No, he didn't. No, he didn't. 1368 01:16:05,428 --> 01:16:09,126 Well, on the 9th of January, 1369 01:16:11,267 --> 01:16:12,530 he wrote, 1370 01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:18,633 "Spoke to Father Cattle about A and J in her bed. 1371 01:16:21,577 --> 01:16:23,603 "He agrees it's evil, 1372 01:16:24,613 --> 01:16:27,208 "suggests I confront J." 1373 01:16:29,585 --> 01:16:31,144 Did he confront your mother? 1374 01:16:31,220 --> 01:16:32,449 No! 1375 01:16:34,690 --> 01:16:36,488 I don't know. 1376 01:16:39,128 --> 01:16:42,326 But he did find you in bed with your mother 1377 01:16:42,698 --> 01:16:44,667 on the day that he died. 1378 01:16:45,301 --> 01:16:46,599 Didn't he? 1379 01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:09,387 She's guilty, there's no question about it. 1380 01:17:11,093 --> 01:17:12,618 Of course she's guilty. 1381 01:17:12,695 --> 01:17:14,254 Come on, wait a moment. 1382 01:17:14,330 --> 01:17:17,823 Even if she was abusing her son, it doesn't make her a murderer. 1383 01:17:17,900 --> 01:17:20,369 It does give her a motive, though. 1384 01:17:20,469 --> 01:17:24,463 Well, how many of you thought she wasn't guilty up until that point? 1385 01:17:26,342 --> 01:17:28,607 Well, no one's gonna convince me she's innocent. 1386 01:17:28,711 --> 01:17:29,804 Doing that to her son. 1387 01:17:29,912 --> 01:17:32,313 Doing what? What was she doing? 1388 01:17:32,882 --> 01:17:36,182 In bed with him. What do you think they were doing? 1389 01:17:36,252 --> 01:17:37,379 It's disgusting! 1390 01:17:37,453 --> 01:17:39,615 Look, lots of boys get into bed with their mums. 1391 01:17:39,688 --> 01:17:40,883 At that age? 1392 01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:43,016 I'd lock him up, too. 1393 01:17:43,659 --> 01:17:46,026 Knew there was something weird about those two. 1394 01:17:46,095 --> 01:17:48,087 Wouldn't be surprised if the boy did the killing. 1395 01:17:48,164 --> 01:17:49,860 - He's a weirdo. - That's ridiculous. 1396 01:17:49,932 --> 01:17:51,730 Why don't we take a vote? 1397 01:17:51,834 --> 01:17:53,496 All those who say the lady's guilty... 1398 01:17:53,569 --> 01:17:54,946 - Yes, absolutely. - Yeah, I agree. 1399 01:17:54,970 --> 01:17:56,370 Yeah. MAN 3: Guilty. 1400 01:18:00,809 --> 01:18:03,643 Hey, we're almost there. We can almost go back in with it. 1401 01:18:03,746 --> 01:18:05,090 We've got to discuss this some more. 1402 01:18:05,114 --> 01:18:07,674 Forget it. You're out-voted by three to one. 1403 01:18:07,783 --> 01:18:11,652 It's murder. I mean, doesn't that mean that it has to be a unanimous verdict? 1404 01:18:11,954 --> 01:18:13,183 Uh... 1405 01:18:13,856 --> 01:18:16,451 Well, all those for not guilty. 1406 01:18:21,664 --> 01:18:24,828 She admitted to hitting him. She wasn't provoked. 1407 01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:27,062 She wanted to be alone with her weirdo kid. 1408 01:18:27,136 --> 01:18:29,298 I think you're right. 1409 01:18:29,371 --> 01:18:32,307 Let's look through what evidence we've got, hmm? 1410 01:18:42,384 --> 01:18:44,376 And not guilty. 1411 01:18:47,623 --> 01:18:50,684 You'll never convince me she didn't want her husband dead. 1412 01:18:50,793 --> 01:18:54,093 The evidence is clear. She was sleeping with her son. 1413 01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:57,158 Doesn't exactly sound like she was innocent. 1414 01:18:57,266 --> 01:18:58,461 What if 1415 01:18:59,034 --> 01:19:02,903 we look at the boy maybe killing his father? 1416 01:19:02,972 --> 01:19:05,737 - Now you're talking. - They're not on trial for incest, 1417 01:19:05,808 --> 01:19:08,243 if that's what it is, it's her who's on trial. 1418 01:19:08,344 --> 01:19:10,939 If the boy did the killing, did the mother know? 1419 01:19:11,013 --> 01:19:12,447 How could she not know? 1420 01:19:12,548 --> 01:19:15,347 They know everything in those sort of relationships. 1421 01:19:15,417 --> 01:19:17,352 They worm their way inside you, 1422 01:19:17,419 --> 01:19:18,997 into your brain so you don't know what you're doing 1423 01:19:19,021 --> 01:19:21,047 or even saying half the time. 1424 01:19:21,123 --> 01:19:23,168 You feel like you're being smothered, like you're sinking. 1425 01:19:23,192 --> 01:19:25,303 Well, you tell yourself it's all right, you can get out, 1426 01:19:25,327 --> 01:19:26,852 but you can't! 1427 01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:36,736 I mean, look at the evidence. 1428 01:19:36,805 --> 01:19:38,364 Are you stupid? 1429 01:19:39,475 --> 01:19:41,410 - Look at it! - Yes, look at it. 1430 01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:43,638 The blow came from a right-handed swing, 1431 01:19:43,746 --> 01:19:45,772 and the mother is clearly left-handed. 1432 01:19:45,848 --> 01:19:47,214 Look how she took the bat. 1433 01:19:47,316 --> 01:19:48,841 But the most important thing 1434 01:19:48,951 --> 01:19:51,785 is the fact that the dead man had no adrenaline in his blood. 1435 01:19:51,854 --> 01:19:54,915 He wasn't fighting with that monster he was married to, not then. 1436 01:19:55,024 --> 01:19:57,118 She planned and calculated, 1437 01:19:57,226 --> 01:20:00,390 first, how to kill him and then cover her tracks. 1438 01:20:04,266 --> 01:20:05,757 That poor wet boy's part of it, too, 1439 01:20:05,868 --> 01:20:08,895 whether he did or not. My money, he did. 1440 01:20:15,544 --> 01:20:17,172 Judge, 1441 01:20:17,246 --> 01:20:20,774 - the jury's coming back for a direction. - Another one? 1442 01:20:23,352 --> 01:20:24,376 Thank you. 1443 01:20:31,527 --> 01:20:33,189 You want to know 1444 01:20:33,595 --> 01:20:36,360 if the defendant didn't swing the baseball bat, 1445 01:20:36,465 --> 01:20:38,661 would she still be guilty? 1446 01:20:39,735 --> 01:20:41,727 Well, she might be guilty of a lot of things, 1447 01:20:41,804 --> 01:20:44,000 but she wouldn't be guilty of murder. 1448 01:20:55,017 --> 01:20:57,646 The jury appears to be having difficulty. 1449 01:20:57,753 --> 01:21:00,484 Are you here to sell the abolition of juries? 1450 01:21:00,589 --> 01:21:01,818 I'm not in the market. 1451 01:21:01,890 --> 01:21:05,827 As I told Mrs Cooper, it's something altogether more agreeable. 1452 01:21:05,894 --> 01:21:09,558 The Attorney General is going to appeal the James Brooklands sentence. 1453 01:21:11,467 --> 01:21:13,527 Without strings or impediment? 1454 01:21:13,635 --> 01:21:16,104 You're far too suspicious, my lord. 1455 01:21:17,005 --> 01:21:21,101 Coop, could you give Mr Dobbs's diary to Chief Inspector Hurst? 1456 01:21:21,176 --> 01:21:22,838 Ask her to interview the boy. 1457 01:21:24,713 --> 01:21:26,773 An interesting development? 1458 01:21:27,549 --> 01:21:29,882 I think this jury's going to find her not guilty. 1459 01:21:29,985 --> 01:21:31,078 Ah. 1460 01:21:36,125 --> 01:21:38,856 Everyone from the Lord Chancellor to the Deputy Prime Minister 1461 01:21:38,927 --> 01:21:42,921 is breathing a sigh of relief about Brooklands being appealed. 1462 01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:48,631 The Lord Chancellor would like you to sit on the appeal. 1463 01:21:52,474 --> 01:21:55,535 Does this presage a place on the Appellate Bench? 1464 01:21:56,178 --> 01:21:57,942 We'll take a view. 1465 01:22:00,115 --> 01:22:01,845 When would the appeal be heard? 1466 01:22:01,950 --> 01:22:03,612 The sooner, the better. 1467 01:22:04,486 --> 01:22:08,014 It's another six weeks till you're back in the Strand. 1468 01:22:09,525 --> 01:22:13,087 You could hear it down here, so as not to interfere with your sitting, 1469 01:22:13,195 --> 01:22:14,993 if you're agreeable. 1470 01:22:22,471 --> 01:22:25,407 I really don't understand you any more, John. 1471 01:22:25,607 --> 01:22:28,133 You appear to have got what you wanted, and yet, 1472 01:22:28,210 --> 01:22:29,303 still you're not happy. 1473 01:22:29,378 --> 01:22:32,712 I mean, without trying to pre-empt your sentence, 1474 01:22:32,781 --> 01:22:36,218 I imagine that Brooklands will find himself in prison. 1475 01:22:37,152 --> 01:22:39,397 It won't bring back the two little girls and their mother, 1476 01:22:39,421 --> 01:22:41,583 but a lot of people will see that justice is possible. 1477 01:22:41,657 --> 01:22:44,627 It's too easy. Do they think I'm stupid? 1478 01:22:47,429 --> 01:22:49,295 Is it just that you miss the fight? 1479 01:22:49,398 --> 01:22:51,094 Go back to being a QC, if it is. 1480 01:22:53,068 --> 01:22:54,661 What about you? 1481 01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:56,395 Any signs of any work yet? 1482 01:22:56,505 --> 01:22:58,804 There have been a few inquiries. 1483 01:22:59,374 --> 01:23:00,454 Think about it objectively. 1484 01:23:00,509 --> 01:23:03,946 What have I done to deserve this kind of reward from the LCD? 1485 01:23:04,012 --> 01:23:05,378 You stood up to the bullies. 1486 01:23:05,447 --> 01:23:06,938 Judge! 1487 01:23:07,449 --> 01:23:09,315 The jury's back with a verdict. 1488 01:23:21,263 --> 01:23:23,858 Will the foreman please stand? 1489 01:23:24,766 --> 01:23:28,032 Have you reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 1490 01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:29,537 Yes, we have. 1491 01:23:35,077 --> 01:23:38,047 On the count of murder, how do you find the defendant? 1492 01:23:38,146 --> 01:23:39,774 Guilty or not guilty? 1493 01:23:39,848 --> 01:23:41,043 Guilty. 1494 01:23:43,852 --> 01:23:45,650 We never agreed that at all! 1495 01:23:46,054 --> 01:23:48,046 - No, it was me! - Andy, no. 1496 01:23:50,259 --> 01:23:53,093 We said not guilty. We all agreed on not guilty. 1497 01:23:53,195 --> 01:23:54,458 Silence! 1498 01:23:56,999 --> 01:23:58,433 Is this true? 1499 01:23:58,901 --> 01:24:00,733 - Yes. - It's not guilty. 1500 01:24:01,236 --> 01:24:02,329 Yes. 1501 01:24:04,606 --> 01:24:07,474 Is that the true verdict of you all? 1502 01:24:07,543 --> 01:24:08,875 Yes. 1503 01:24:10,612 --> 01:24:12,911 I made a mistake. 1504 01:24:14,917 --> 01:24:17,113 I was just so tense and nervous. 1505 01:24:18,453 --> 01:24:20,979 Then I'll accept the true verdict. 1506 01:24:21,223 --> 01:24:25,923 Mrs Dobbs you have been found not guilty of murder. 1507 01:24:26,028 --> 01:24:28,020 You are free to go. 1508 01:24:31,066 --> 01:24:32,066 All rise. 1509 01:24:32,134 --> 01:24:33,432 - Andy? - Mum. 1510 01:24:33,502 --> 01:24:35,130 Where are you taking him? 1511 01:24:35,237 --> 01:24:36,364 Mum! Mum! 1512 01:24:36,471 --> 01:24:37,769 You can't take him! 1513 01:25:03,231 --> 01:25:04,709 Would you like to say anything at all? 1514 01:25:04,733 --> 01:25:06,895 Excuse me, please. Thank you. 1515 01:25:11,273 --> 01:25:13,572 God, I thought all this was behind me. 1516 01:25:13,675 --> 01:25:14,938 It soon will be, James. 1517 01:25:15,010 --> 01:25:17,650 It's all right for you, Clive. You get paid whatever happens to me. 1518 01:25:18,847 --> 01:25:22,249 Having heard all the arguments in this appeal, Mr Brooklands, 1519 01:25:22,351 --> 01:25:25,788 we would ordinarily reserve judgment to a later date. 1520 01:25:26,622 --> 01:25:30,821 But because there is such public concern over this case, 1521 01:25:31,426 --> 01:25:35,989 and, regrettably, judges can no longer ignore public sentiment, 1522 01:25:36,064 --> 01:25:39,967 we are going to retire to consider our judgment. 1523 01:25:41,169 --> 01:25:42,762 All rise. 1524 01:25:45,474 --> 01:25:49,343 You know, I think a very stiff prison sentence is called for. 1525 01:25:49,544 --> 01:25:51,513 Ten years wouldn't come amiss. 1526 01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:54,049 Can't we be a little more imaginative, Joe? 1527 01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:55,811 The public would expect that sentence. 1528 01:25:55,917 --> 01:25:57,783 - Yes. - Between what they might expect 1529 01:25:57,853 --> 01:26:00,687 and what we might give him, there is a yawning gap. 1530 01:26:00,789 --> 01:26:03,156 I don't see that there need be. 1531 01:26:03,425 --> 01:26:06,293 Well, personally, I'd give him two years on bread and water, 1532 01:26:06,395 --> 01:26:09,331 150 lashes and transportation to Australia. 1533 01:26:09,798 --> 01:26:11,198 But then, I am new to this. 1534 01:26:11,266 --> 01:26:14,964 Well, you're going to make a very splendid Lord of Appeal. 1535 01:26:15,904 --> 01:26:17,896 Pity those days are gone. 1536 01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:21,071 - Ten years, Michael? - Yes, that'd be all right, Joe. 1537 01:26:21,143 --> 01:26:25,274 No, 10 is what he deserves, five is what we should give him. 1538 01:26:25,347 --> 01:26:28,749 - He did think he would get none. - Five. Is that your lucky number? 1539 01:26:29,751 --> 01:26:31,311 He'll spend one year in a proper prison, 1540 01:26:31,386 --> 01:26:33,753 two and a half in an open prison, and be off. 1541 01:26:33,822 --> 01:26:36,883 And with 10, he'll be back here on appeal and out in five minutes, 1542 01:26:36,992 --> 01:26:38,585 and you know it. 1543 01:26:41,730 --> 01:26:43,665 This court has decided to allow 1544 01:26:43,732 --> 01:26:48,261 the Attorney General's appeal against your over-lenient sentence. 1545 01:26:48,336 --> 01:26:52,273 You will, therefore, go to prison for six years. 1546 01:26:54,976 --> 01:26:56,945 Although it is a matter for the prison service, 1547 01:26:57,012 --> 01:27:01,040 we recommend to the Director General that your time should be served 1548 01:27:01,149 --> 01:27:02,845 in a secure prison, 1549 01:27:03,418 --> 01:27:08,789 one from which you cannot conduct the daily intercourse of your business. 1550 01:27:08,857 --> 01:27:11,554 No, that's not fair. They promised me... 1551 01:27:13,228 --> 01:27:15,197 I'll talk to the Home Secretary. 1552 01:27:15,263 --> 01:27:18,392 I'm sure you'll find him most receptive. 1553 01:27:19,434 --> 01:27:20,902 Take him down. 1554 01:27:26,141 --> 01:27:27,575 I can walk! 1555 01:27:28,076 --> 01:27:29,908 I can walk by myself! 1556 01:27:31,780 --> 01:27:34,306 Why only six, John? He deserved more. 1557 01:27:34,382 --> 01:27:36,374 Six is my lucky number. 1558 01:27:37,652 --> 01:27:39,492 Do you realise, since I've been having therapy, 1559 01:27:39,521 --> 01:27:41,353 I haven't propositioned you once? 1560 01:27:41,423 --> 01:27:43,392 Hmm. You're inching forward. 1561 01:27:44,359 --> 01:27:46,351 The foundations are going in. 1562 01:27:46,428 --> 01:27:50,263 What are you looking for, a Scout's badge for responsibility? 1563 01:27:50,332 --> 01:27:51,823 Is there one? 1564 01:27:52,067 --> 01:27:55,060 We'll have to have one created in your honour. 1565 01:27:55,170 --> 01:27:56,661 Dyb, dyb, dyb. 1565 01:27:57,305 --> 01:28:57,703 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 121929

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