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Climbing's always
been my first love.
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Sasha showing some finesse.
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Since I was 16, I've been in
the limelight of climbing.
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No question, the best female
climber in our country.
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I love the winning.
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First place, Sasha DiGiulian.
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People were like,
Sasha DiGiulian,
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this little kid that's
crushing everything.
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Every time I climb, it's like
you fall, you fall, you fall.
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Slam into the
wall, and it hurts.
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Kinda frustrated.
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I learned in order to capitalize
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on your achievements,
you need to capture them.
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Social media changed the game.
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This is Sasha
DiGiulian tuning in.
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It's like a level of intimacy
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that never existed
in climbing before.
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She changed the
face of climbing.
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The fact that I'm marketable...
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Is my hair okay?
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Kind of not, but.
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Enables me to do what I do
and make a living off of it.
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Once you share yourself
with the world,
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people are going to
have a problem with you.
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But if you have haters,
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that's how you know you made it.
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Her definition of success
is that she gets to the top.
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You have such an
incredible career.
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She's so polarizing.
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I don't know how much of Sasha
is a crafted public persona.
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She doesn't look like a climber.
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Some people say, "Why are
you sexualizing the sport?"
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People criticize her and
call her dumb and anorexic.
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Sasha's story is amazing.
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That's why it's so frustrating
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when Sasha overhypes
some ascents.
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If you omit certain details,
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people are going
to be suspicious.
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It's bullshit.
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I just play the game.
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Okay, don't mess this up.
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You know what to do.
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Right, left, pull, foot up,
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push, push, push.
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Make it up there,
make it up there.
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Very good.
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Whoo.
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Yes, summit.
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Our anchor.
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- Yeah.
- Nice.
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And it's not dark.
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It's not dark. Yeah.
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Only almost.
- Almost.
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No, we got time.
- Yeah.
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All right, so I'm
going to tie you in.
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Lynn started out as my idol,
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the woman that I grew up
with a poster of on my wall
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in my childhood bedroom.
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Yes, with one direction.
Here's the X, see?
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Then she became a friend...
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That's how I'm going to tie in.
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And a mentor.
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- Tying to the end here.
- Yeah.
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As long as we trust
that one sling.
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We can have a backup, though.
- Yeah.
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Lynn did this epic feat
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of climbing the Nose on El Cap.
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And the Nose had never been done
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by a man or a woman before.
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She did it over four days.
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Then the next
year, she came back
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and did it in a single day.
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And then she made
this famous quip...
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Good setup.
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And I saw that as just...
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I want to do something
like that one day.
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- Hasta la vista.
- Whoo-hoo.
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It's going to be
an exciting rappel.
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Lynn comes from this
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traditional climbing background,
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grew up really in the
outdoor environment.
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And I grew up climbing in a gym.
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I started climbing when
I was six years old.
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My brother had a birthday party
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at a climbing gym
called Sportrock
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in Alexandria, Virginia.
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What I remember was walking in,
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the gym smelling,
like, musty, dirty feet
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and a slight tinge of pizza.
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I really liked it.
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I kept going back in line
to have another turn.
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Sasha quickly
progressed from being
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a child who liked to climb
to being a competitor.
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What's your strategy today?
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Two things: to win
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and to climb as many races
I can so I get 1,000 bucks.
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She loved the gym competitions.
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She excelled in them.
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It became obvious that
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she wanted to be
serious about that.
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- I loved winning.
- Yeah!
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Winning my first
continental championships,
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winning my first nationals,
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it was, like, the
greatest feeling.
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I met Sasha when
she was, I think,
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like 14 or 15 years old.
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We both lived in D.C.
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and were climbing in
the same climbing gym.
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And she was the little squirt
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that was warming
up on my projects.
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Yeah, she definitely stood out.
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When Sasha was
building her career,
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she was a young, attractive,
blonde, blue-eyed girl
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doing some really cool things.
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She loves climbing,
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but she uses it
to make a living.
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It's impressive.
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- I want to see that logo.
- Oh, yeah.
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It's just bunched on this side.
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So maybe just pull your
jacket down and fold it.
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Just curl it up or something.
- Oh, okay.
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Since I had achieved
at that point
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what I wanted to achieve
in indoor climbing
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and I started using
my winter breaks
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and summer breaks to
be outside on rock.
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I never kind of ventured into
this new world unknown before.
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The following summer,
I did my first big wall
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with Edu Marin, who is a
professional Spanish climber.
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Bella Vista was classified
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as the hardest big wall
achieved by a woman.
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It was my first female
ascent of a big wall,
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proving to myself that
anything was possible.
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It's a serious endeavor
to climb a big wall,
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and it requires a lot
of technical knowledge
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and mental fortitude and
then, of course, the strength.
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Sport climbing is a very
individualistic pursuit.
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Big wall climbing
is about teamwork
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and about partnership.
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So it was a big
transition for Sasha
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because you can't do it
all by yourself anymore.
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And the list of things
that could go wrong...
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Is pretty much infinite.
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My next climb was the Eiger.
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The route that I
wanted to do was
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one of the hardest
established routes
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on the north face of the Eiger,
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and it had never been
done by a woman before.
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That was exciting to me.
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I wanted to do something
that was record-breaking.
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And I told my sponsors about it
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and they were instantly
really excited
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and put in the resources to
filming and making it happen.
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I saw the climb
that I wanted to do
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on the north face of the Eiger
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as something that was
under the grade level
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that I climbed.
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I thought, like,
"What's the big deal?"
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There's a lot to
big wall climbing
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that you don't know
until you're out there.
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And all of it I was learning
while literally there.
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My climbing partner
was Carlo Traversi,
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and we were going
through these pockets
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of really bad weather,
running out of time,
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so we changed routes
to something easier.
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And it was still a
first female ascent.
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I was like, adjust
course, secure a summit.
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So all of a sudden,
I come back home
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and there's so much hype.
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Sasha DiGiulian has just become
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the first woman to free-climb
the north face of the Eiger.
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The first woman ever to
scale the Murder Wall.
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Just days before
starting her senior year
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at Columbia University,
DiGiulian reached the summit.
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My proudest achievement
in my career yet.
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It's the hardest route on
the 5,000-foot north face,
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and DiGiulian has made
the first female ascent.
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My main focus in climbing...
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When you're trying to make
a living off your sport
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and getting media attention,
you're not going to say no.
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I've proven to myself that
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something that I didn't know
was possible was possible.
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Yes.
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Whoo!
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It makes your career grow.
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But the climbing community
was basically like,
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"What the fuck?"
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I feel like every
big thing she's done,
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there's always the
weird asterisk,
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always weird rumors, and
maybe that's people hating.
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Maybe that's people
being sexist.
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The toughest thing for
me about the criticism
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that I got from
the Eiger was that
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it was actually more
grounded in fact.
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It wasn't that big of a feat.
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Carlo Traversi, my
climbing partner,
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was never mentioned
in the press.
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I was like this outsider
coming into this world
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that was highly protected
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and all of a sudden,
getting a lot of attention
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for something that
felt overhyped.
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So all of this critique
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made me want to just keep
making a bigger splash.
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I just saw the negative
as like, watch me.
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I'll keep going.
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Hello.
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How do you feel?
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Not bad.
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I'm really competitive.
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Little bit sandy.
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And I also love
feeling in control.
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What I love about
climbing is in many ways,
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I've always been in
control of my own success.
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Like, what I get out
of it is up to me.
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I was racking up first ascents
and first female ascents
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with male professional climbers.
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And that's how
I've kind of grown
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and expanded in my skill set.
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We would push each
other really hard,
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pushing my comfort zone.
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The spring of 2018, I set
out on this crazy objective
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of climbing three of
Canada's hardest big walls.
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But I broke up with
my climbing partner.
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Ah.
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And I ended up
doing it on my own
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with the support of Blairs.
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Whoo!
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After that, I was like,
"Whoa, I feel limitless."
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We did it!
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Yeah!
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I'd put to bed these whispers
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of me needing a male
climbing partner
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to help get up these walls.
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Oh, my God.
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Way to go, team!
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- Whoo-hoo!
- Whoo!
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It was very empowering
in the sense
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that I knew I had the
skills and the capacity
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to lead an all-female
team on an expedition.
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I guess, yeah.
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It was really cool to see
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Sash coming off of the trilogy,
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and she really wanted
her next big expedition
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to be an all-female team.
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Tricams that Lynn gave me.
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Sash wants to prove
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that she's one of
the most successful
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female climbers in the world
and one of the most successful
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big wall female
climbers in the world,
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which is an even more
rarefied group of individuals.
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Okay.
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This is the climb
that we're trying.
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It's Leve Leve by
the Pou brothers.
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This is all
super-vegetated terrain.
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And the rock, it's hard to tell
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how it is since
it's so overgrown.
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I decided to self-fund
the expedition.
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The goal is to be
the first woman
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to climb a route
up Pico Cao Grande,
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which was the largest
volcanic plug in the world.
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I just wanted to go there
with a climbing partner
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that I felt comfortable
with and trusted.
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Oh, man.
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Holy epic-ness.
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And you're literally
entrusting your lives
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into each other's hands,
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and you're all working
together towards this goal.
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Oh, my God. Like, it's
like... it's there.
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It's so crazy.
- It's there. We're here.
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Like, we're looking at
this thing at a picture
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in my house, and, like...
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When I got the call from
Sasha to go to Africa,
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I was over the moon.
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When I first saw
Pico Cao Grande,
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I was floored.
It was beautiful.
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I met Angela on the Upper
Peninsula of Michigan
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on an ice climbing trip.
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I was pretty green
to ice climbing,
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and Angela really mentored me.
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The rock.
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Oh, I'm so pumped.
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God.
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And then... oh, dude!
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There's the bolt. First bolt.
- Where?
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After that crack system.
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- Is that the face?
- Yeah.
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That way.
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My thoughts were that Angela
and I would swap leads,
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and essentially I would lead
the harder-graded climbs,
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and she would lead more
of the adventure terrain.
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Oh, the rock.
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Jungle.
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I'm spider-webby.
- It's really gravelly.
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I fought a lot of
spiders coming up.
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You're a little dirty.
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Sharp rock.
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And it's pouring rain, and
I'm getting a little...
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- Yeah, we're getting misted.
- Breeze.
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Niagara Falls over here.
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From the moment we touched
down on the ground,
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it was just rain.
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When it rains,
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00:16:30,783 --> 00:16:35,327
the likelihood of
rockfall goes way up.
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That's a whole
different level of risk
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that I never accounted for.
305
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Not normal protocol
to climb in the rain.
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Oh.
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My fucking feet won't
even stay on the holds.
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00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:55,807
Like, this is like
such mossy bullshit.
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00:17:01,312 --> 00:17:04,898
I'm not sure how wet this
climb is going to be.
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It feels like it's one
of the only options.
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Right now.
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You got that.
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Oh, everything's so
wet. Holy smokes.
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Sasha is one of the most
driven people I've ever met.
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It helps her achieve the goals
that she sets for herself.
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And I do believe that
she finds self-worth
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and self-value in those
goals that she creates.
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Oh, no! Fucker!
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On the grasp!
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No fucking way!
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Ah!
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Whoo!
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Ow, ow, ow, ow!
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First pitch.
327
00:19:04,185 --> 00:19:07,771
But, man, that was a
fight through the mud.
328
00:19:24,831 --> 00:19:27,833
I just don't know if we're
going to get a weather window.
329
00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,002
Well, then I'm probably
not going to go to the top
330
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if we don't get
a weather window.
331
00:19:31,755 --> 00:19:34,423
Yeah, I mean, it is
shitty to be, like,
332
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the only one trying
to, like, push our,
333
00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:38,260
like, momentum forward.
334
00:19:38,261 --> 00:19:39,803
Like I said, I'm super willing
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00:19:39,804 --> 00:19:41,055
to go up there with you.
336
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I just, like, want
you to be doing it
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for the right reasons, girl.
338
00:19:44,768 --> 00:19:46,852
Like, I want you to...
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I'm, like, perfectly aware of
my... my, like, risk-taking.
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00:19:50,482 --> 00:19:52,816
I just, like, if I feel
like something's sketchy,
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I come down.
342
00:19:54,027 --> 00:19:55,110
And my only point is that
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we don't know until
we check it out.
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Rock!
345
00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:50,040
You guys okay?
346
00:20:53,628 --> 00:20:56,005
Angela!
347
00:20:57,298 --> 00:20:59,258
I'm okay.
348
00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:03,178
A TV-sized block
coming off is, like,
349
00:21:03,179 --> 00:21:05,014
not cool.
350
00:21:05,015 --> 00:21:08,350
There was rockfall that almost
killed our photographer.
351
00:21:08,351 --> 00:21:11,478
And that was a very
high point of tension
352
00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:14,857
because Sasha didn't think
anything had gone wrong
353
00:21:14,858 --> 00:21:17,401
because nobody was hurt.
354
00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:20,696
My life partner of many years
355
00:21:20,697 --> 00:21:22,948
went on an expedition
to Pakistan.
356
00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,742
And he never came home.
357
00:21:24,743 --> 00:21:27,411
That dramatically
changed the way
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00:21:27,412 --> 00:21:30,205
that I see the
world of climbing.
359
00:21:30,206 --> 00:21:34,043
I was bold, and that's
how I got my name.
360
00:21:34,044 --> 00:21:36,628
And now I'm very far from bold.
361
00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:42,426
I just don't really
want anyone to die.
362
00:21:42,427 --> 00:21:44,511
So no one dies on this route,
363
00:21:44,512 --> 00:21:45,846
it's going to be a sweet summit.
364
00:21:45,847 --> 00:21:48,891
Somebody dies, I'm going
to be super-bummed.
365
00:21:48,892 --> 00:21:51,727
That's kind of where I'm at.
366
00:21:51,728 --> 00:21:54,271
If you feel like
you going up there
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00:21:54,272 --> 00:21:55,606
is like you dying,
368
00:21:55,607 --> 00:21:57,775
then of course,
I can't push you.
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00:21:57,776 --> 00:22:00,110
I just have confidence
that we can reach the top
370
00:22:00,111 --> 00:22:02,905
and that we can
mitigate the risk.
371
00:22:02,906 --> 00:22:05,949
I mean, I don't know
what you want me to say.
372
00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:11,914
At the end of that evening,
Sasha went into her tent
373
00:22:11,915 --> 00:22:16,126
and uploaded the GoPro
footage to Instagram.
374
00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:20,589
Rock!
375
00:22:22,884 --> 00:22:25,135
You guys okay?
376
00:22:27,806 --> 00:22:29,808
Angela!
377
00:22:59,754 --> 00:23:02,381
Last night, my ego
was getting in the way
378
00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:04,633
of making a clear decision.
379
00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:07,386
I woke up this morning feeling
like this is against my ethic
380
00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:10,222
and not the example
I want to set.
381
00:23:10,223 --> 00:23:15,686
What hurts right
now is I feel like
382
00:23:15,687 --> 00:23:17,730
all of the preparation I did,
383
00:23:17,731 --> 00:23:22,234
and as much as I
wanted something,
384
00:23:22,235 --> 00:23:24,611
it's just not possible.
385
00:23:24,612 --> 00:23:26,739
And this is the first...
386
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:29,408
this is the first
mission of mine,
387
00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:31,285
the first big wall
that I've gone on
388
00:23:31,286 --> 00:23:34,872
on a trip that I
haven't succeeded on.
389
00:24:42,107 --> 00:24:44,441
I was at fault for
the failed expedition
390
00:24:44,442 --> 00:24:46,318
because I was supposed to be
391
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,946
keeping everyone in good spirit.
392
00:24:48,947 --> 00:24:51,782
I wasn't empathetic
to their feelings.
393
00:24:51,783 --> 00:24:55,786
I wasn't the expedition leader
that they needed me to be.
394
00:24:55,787 --> 00:24:57,996
All right!
395
00:24:57,997 --> 00:25:00,040
We put six bolts in today.
396
00:25:00,041 --> 00:25:03,293
All right, let's try.
Let's go down one more.
397
00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:06,296
It was the first trip that
someone was telling me no,
398
00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:08,549
and, like, I didn't like that.
399
00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:11,135
All right, I'll come down.
400
00:25:11,136 --> 00:25:15,431
Growing up, I wanted to
do everything by myself.
401
00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:23,147
I wasn't naturally that
much of a team player.
402
00:25:26,985 --> 00:25:30,571
For instance, my mom
learned how to belay
403
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:32,990
so that I could maximize
my time climbing
404
00:25:32,991 --> 00:25:35,075
and do laps.
405
00:25:35,076 --> 00:25:37,995
I was just game to help
out in any way I could.
406
00:25:37,996 --> 00:25:42,875
And that turned
into belaying Sasha
407
00:25:42,876 --> 00:25:48,047
so that she didn't take time
belaying another climber.
408
00:25:48,048 --> 00:25:49,673
She didn't really
climb with anyone else.
409
00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:51,133
It was just her mom.
410
00:25:51,134 --> 00:25:53,218
And so all she did was climb.
411
00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:54,678
Usually when you're climbing,
you have your partner
412
00:25:54,679 --> 00:25:57,723
and you take your breaks,
you know, and you rest.
413
00:25:57,724 --> 00:26:00,517
But for Sasha, it was
just like up and down,
414
00:26:00,518 --> 00:26:01,977
up and down, up and down.
415
00:26:01,978 --> 00:26:03,437
Go, Sasha!
416
00:26:03,438 --> 00:26:06,648
Elite athletes
have to have drive.
417
00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:08,942
You have to be selfish.
418
00:26:08,943 --> 00:26:13,530
Like, you have to be thinking
about how to elevate yourself.
419
00:26:14,949 --> 00:26:18,869
My mom, she loved
being a part of it.
420
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:23,540
But my dad, he was busy working.
421
00:26:23,541 --> 00:26:25,542
Didn't come to my
climbing competitions.
422
00:26:25,543 --> 00:26:28,045
He didn't really
understand climbing.
423
00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:31,507
He was scared that
I would go off
424
00:26:31,508 --> 00:26:34,551
and become a dirtbag
and not go to college.
425
00:26:34,552 --> 00:26:35,969
I wanted to prove to him
426
00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:37,888
that climbing was
a legitimate sport
427
00:26:37,889 --> 00:26:41,725
like tennis and hockey and
that I could make a living
428
00:26:41,726 --> 00:26:45,562
off of this sport that I loved.
429
00:26:45,563 --> 00:26:50,234
What my dad did connect
with was me winning.
430
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:54,780
I could say, "Here's
my gold medal."
431
00:26:54,781 --> 00:26:59,451
And he would beam
with a sense of pride.
432
00:26:59,452 --> 00:27:02,121
Our little tradition was
433
00:27:02,122 --> 00:27:05,582
my dad would bring
me to the airport.
434
00:27:05,583 --> 00:27:06,875
We'd talk about things
435
00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:09,628
that have nothing
to do with climbing.
436
00:27:13,383 --> 00:27:15,843
And whenever he dropped me off,
437
00:27:15,844 --> 00:27:20,723
he'd say, "Have fun, be
safe, and do your best."
438
00:27:32,610 --> 00:27:36,113
It's such a beautiful formation.
439
00:27:36,114 --> 00:27:38,157
For Sasha and I to
do a new route here
440
00:27:38,158 --> 00:27:41,368
would be a great
achievement for us,
441
00:27:41,369 --> 00:27:44,789
but also a gift to the climbers.
442
00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:50,794
Once we've got it all
bolted, the fun part starts.
443
00:27:50,795 --> 00:27:53,297
That's why I wanted Sasha
to be a part of this,
444
00:27:53,298 --> 00:27:56,967
because we can do something
for the community of Boulder
445
00:27:56,968 --> 00:28:00,387
and all the climbers that
are looking for new routes
446
00:28:00,388 --> 00:28:03,432
about that level of difficulty.
447
00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:07,519
Sasha is a young woman
who's still figuring it out.
448
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,979
My feet are actually still warm.
449
00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:11,899
We share similar goals
when it comes to climbing.
450
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:13,567
- We're in climbing shoes.
- Yeah.
451
00:28:13,568 --> 00:28:15,652
Once you decide to do something,
452
00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:17,821
there's no backing down.
453
00:28:17,822 --> 00:28:19,239
That's just part
of our character,
454
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,035
and it's part of what
makes us good climbers.
455
00:28:23,036 --> 00:28:26,663
But we come from a
completely different culture.
456
00:28:26,664 --> 00:28:27,831
The world is a lot
different today
457
00:28:27,832 --> 00:28:30,501
than it was when I was her age.
458
00:28:33,838 --> 00:28:36,340
Back in the days when I
was climbing the big walls
459
00:28:36,341 --> 00:28:39,677
of Yosemite as, like,
an 18-, 19-year-old,
460
00:28:39,678 --> 00:28:41,637
I met this group of climbers
461
00:28:41,638 --> 00:28:45,307
that are now known
as the Stonemasters.
462
00:28:45,308 --> 00:28:48,018
They were pushing the level
of free climbing in America
463
00:28:48,019 --> 00:28:50,104
and finding the routes
that were harder
464
00:28:50,105 --> 00:28:51,855
than what had already been done.
465
00:28:51,856 --> 00:28:54,274
It was a very inclusive group,
466
00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,193
people from different
walks of life.
467
00:28:56,194 --> 00:28:59,863
And where we were bonded was
in our love for climbing.
468
00:28:59,864 --> 00:29:01,865
My first female
climbing partner,
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00:29:01,866 --> 00:29:05,536
Mari Gingery, she and I were
pretty much the only women
470
00:29:05,537 --> 00:29:07,204
in this group of men.
471
00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:12,209
It took a while for
people to understand
472
00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:14,003
that climbing is
actually a sport
473
00:29:14,004 --> 00:29:16,255
and that women can do it.
474
00:29:16,256 --> 00:29:18,590
We do what we think
we're capable of.
475
00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:21,385
So we're telling
ourselves stories,
476
00:29:21,386 --> 00:29:24,638
and the story you tell yourself
is the most important one.
477
00:29:28,309 --> 00:29:30,853
I was just enjoying
being out there
478
00:29:30,854 --> 00:29:33,564
and hanging out with these
people that like to have fun
479
00:29:33,565 --> 00:29:35,274
and just do crazy things.
480
00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:38,318
It was a really
beautiful time in my life
481
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,989
where I felt free and
on the edge of something
482
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:46,368
that nobody else really
cared, but we cared.
483
00:29:47,495 --> 00:29:49,538
Then I was part of the
first generation of climbers
484
00:29:49,539 --> 00:29:52,249
that got to experience
competition.
485
00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:56,420
And that was very
controversial at first.
486
00:29:56,421 --> 00:29:59,089
Some climbers on one
side that would say
487
00:29:59,090 --> 00:30:01,091
climbing is not a
competitive sport
488
00:30:01,092 --> 00:30:04,970
and how would we judge who's
the best climber anyway?
489
00:30:04,971 --> 00:30:08,807
The only way I was really
making money was prize money.
490
00:30:08,808 --> 00:30:12,102
When I asked the organizers
if the men and women
491
00:30:12,103 --> 00:30:14,563
were getting paid the
same for prize money,
492
00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:16,857
they just said, "Well,
women will get paid the same
493
00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:20,235
if they climb without
their tops on."
494
00:30:20,236 --> 00:30:22,863
When I retired
from competitions,
495
00:30:22,864 --> 00:30:26,075
I decided to do
one last big climb,
496
00:30:26,076 --> 00:30:28,494
the first free ascent
of the most famous route
497
00:30:28,495 --> 00:30:32,247
in the middle of El
Capitan called the Nose.
498
00:30:32,248 --> 00:30:33,957
People said it couldn't be done.
499
00:30:33,958 --> 00:30:35,918
And when people say
it can't be done,
500
00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:37,795
that's when I get
most motivated.
501
00:30:37,796 --> 00:30:39,630
Oh, really? It can't be done?
502
00:30:39,631 --> 00:30:40,964
Who would ever say that?
503
00:30:40,965 --> 00:30:42,841
Why would you ever say
something can't be done?
504
00:30:42,842 --> 00:30:44,802
It's just a matter of
finding the way to do it.
505
00:30:44,803 --> 00:30:47,262
Lynn Hill is a legend
amongst climbers.
506
00:30:47,263 --> 00:30:49,932
This morning, a woman
adventure writer Jon Krakauer
507
00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:52,267
called, quote, "Not
just one of the best
508
00:30:52,268 --> 00:30:56,730
female climbers, but one
of the all-time greats."
509
00:30:56,731 --> 00:30:58,190
The first part says,
510
00:30:58,191 --> 00:31:00,359
"Someday, some guy is
going to free the Nose."
511
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,360
Yeah
512
00:31:01,361 --> 00:31:03,362
And at the bottom, it
says, "It goes, boys."
513
00:31:03,363 --> 00:31:04,738
That's amazing.
514
00:31:04,739 --> 00:31:06,156
Yeah.
515
00:31:06,157 --> 00:31:08,033
You know that's the poster
of you that I grew up with?
516
00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:10,285
It was signed by you.
517
00:31:10,286 --> 00:31:12,413
Yeah.
- Now, this is really funny.
518
00:31:12,414 --> 00:31:14,957
This photo was taken
when I was probably 19.
519
00:31:14,958 --> 00:31:16,834
So they came out to Joshua
Tree and they're like,
520
00:31:16,835 --> 00:31:18,669
"Who wants to get
some free schwag
521
00:31:18,670 --> 00:31:20,504
and take a few photos with us?"
522
00:31:20,505 --> 00:31:21,797
And so I said, "Sure."
523
00:31:21,798 --> 00:31:23,841
So they gave me those
stand up shorts.
524
00:31:23,842 --> 00:31:25,300
I did get sponsored later,
525
00:31:25,301 --> 00:31:28,887
but I wasn't making
enough money to survive
526
00:31:28,888 --> 00:31:30,222
and be a mother.
527
00:31:30,223 --> 00:31:31,890
I always had to
do a side hustle.
528
00:31:31,891 --> 00:31:34,184
And it just got really tiring
529
00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:36,854
to have to always be
answering to a sponsor,
530
00:31:36,855 --> 00:31:39,440
have a side hustle,
and be a mom.
531
00:31:39,441 --> 00:31:41,692
There's a young Sasha.
532
00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:42,860
"Kids of Climbing."
- Yeah.
533
00:31:42,861 --> 00:31:43,861
- How old were you then?
- 2007.
534
00:31:43,862 --> 00:31:44,862
Because of people like Lynn
535
00:31:44,863 --> 00:31:47,031
who really pioneered the sport,
536
00:31:47,032 --> 00:31:48,907
my generation gets to actually
537
00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:50,993
make a living doing
what you love.
538
00:31:50,994 --> 00:31:53,370
Oh, my goodness, Little Sasha.
539
00:31:53,371 --> 00:31:57,541
I want women to have
equal access to equity
540
00:31:57,542 --> 00:31:59,460
and equality in sport.
541
00:31:59,461 --> 00:32:01,045
It's not about the money.
542
00:32:01,046 --> 00:32:03,380
Money enables you freedom,
543
00:32:03,381 --> 00:32:07,843
and freedom enables you
to do what you want to do.
544
00:32:09,346 --> 00:32:12,931
I took a very business-forward
approach to my career.
545
00:32:12,932 --> 00:32:16,185
And even from a young age,
I had brand principles
546
00:32:16,186 --> 00:32:18,854
and a mission
statement of who I was.
547
00:32:18,855 --> 00:32:20,272
I remember writing out
548
00:32:20,273 --> 00:32:22,941
the mission statement
of Sasha DiGiulian.
549
00:32:22,942 --> 00:32:24,234
I always looked at
professional climbing
550
00:32:24,235 --> 00:32:26,945
as basically similar
to dumpster diving.
551
00:32:26,946 --> 00:32:29,073
Get in there and see
what you can find.
552
00:32:29,074 --> 00:32:31,575
Sasha was just really good
at diving in the dumpster.
553
00:32:31,576 --> 00:32:33,202
I don't...
554
00:32:33,203 --> 00:32:35,454
I said yes to everything.
555
00:32:35,455 --> 00:32:40,084
Tires, makeup brands,
fitness trackers.
556
00:32:40,085 --> 00:32:42,169
Did a deal with Seamless,
which was awesome
557
00:32:42,170 --> 00:32:43,587
because I was in college
558
00:32:43,588 --> 00:32:46,507
and it was like free
delivery for a year.
559
00:32:46,508 --> 00:32:49,426
She's a businesswoman.
She's a self-marketer.
560
00:32:49,427 --> 00:32:54,181
She's the OG millennial
influencer pro climber.
561
00:32:54,182 --> 00:32:56,266
One of the first
people to really
562
00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:59,061
be Insta-famous in
our climbing community
563
00:32:59,062 --> 00:33:01,146
and have a huge following
564
00:33:01,147 --> 00:33:03,357
and be able to
leverage and use that
565
00:33:03,358 --> 00:33:05,442
in ways that were to her benefit
566
00:33:05,443 --> 00:33:08,904
but also became
extremely isolating.
567
00:33:10,782 --> 00:33:12,491
Agent Provocateur approached me
568
00:33:12,492 --> 00:33:15,285
about being a part
of this new campaign,
569
00:33:15,286 --> 00:33:18,288
embracing strength
as not mutually
570
00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:20,541
exclusive from femininity.
571
00:33:20,542 --> 00:33:22,292
It was a fun experience
572
00:33:22,293 --> 00:33:25,004
and one of the most ridiculous
things that I've done.
573
00:33:25,005 --> 00:33:27,799
But I'm, like, pretty
happy that I did it.
574
00:33:38,309 --> 00:33:41,186
Sometimes she's
critiqued by, you know,
575
00:33:41,187 --> 00:33:42,980
the trolls on the internet.
576
00:33:42,981 --> 00:33:44,940
The culture that I came from,
577
00:33:44,941 --> 00:33:47,151
people didn't boast
about themselves.
578
00:33:47,152 --> 00:33:48,235
There was no social media.
579
00:33:48,236 --> 00:33:51,655
They were very discreet,
and if anything,
580
00:33:51,656 --> 00:33:54,324
understated and humble.
581
00:33:54,325 --> 00:33:57,536
And if you see somebody who's
the opposite of that, you know,
582
00:33:57,537 --> 00:34:00,623
the tendency is to
tear that person down.
583
00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:09,340
I love to climb hard, and
I also love to wear pink.
584
00:34:09,341 --> 00:34:11,175
I love to be outside,
but I also love
585
00:34:11,176 --> 00:34:14,845
to stay in a five-star hotel.
586
00:34:14,846 --> 00:34:19,725
Being true to myself and not
having to dampen my shine
587
00:34:19,726 --> 00:34:25,439
is maybe why I cause friction,
588
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,359
but I'm human, so I'm
always going to be
589
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,360
affected by negative comments.
590
00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:37,701
I have spent a lot of
time anguishing over what
591
00:34:37,702 --> 00:34:40,746
other people think about me.
592
00:34:40,747 --> 00:34:45,250
I went through a really
public cyberbullying incident
593
00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:49,797
that came from a
long saga of someone
594
00:34:49,798 --> 00:34:54,426
in our community mocking,
essentially, me being obese.
595
00:34:54,427 --> 00:34:56,970
And I crafted a post about it.
596
00:34:56,971 --> 00:35:02,184
What resulted in that was fury
towards me and towards him.
597
00:35:02,185 --> 00:35:06,397
I have been dealing with
someone who has treated me
598
00:35:06,398 --> 00:35:10,317
poorly through harassment,
online and offline,
599
00:35:10,318 --> 00:35:13,362
over the last eight years.
600
00:35:13,363 --> 00:35:18,409
And I exposed something
that was posted online.
601
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:21,286
And my opinion
about social media
602
00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:25,040
is that what is posted
online is posted
603
00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:26,583
to a public forum.
604
00:35:26,584 --> 00:35:30,212
Whether from a public
account or a private account,
605
00:35:30,213 --> 00:35:34,091
we all have to face the
accountability of our actions.
606
00:35:34,092 --> 00:35:38,429
She fought back,
607
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:41,682
fucking nuked him
on social media.
608
00:35:41,683 --> 00:35:44,893
That person lost their
entire livelihood.
609
00:35:44,894 --> 00:35:47,396
People had a hard
time with that fact,
610
00:35:47,397 --> 00:35:48,939
because it was a
well-loved person
611
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:52,443
in the climbing community.
612
00:35:52,444 --> 00:35:55,696
Something that Sasha will
always be associated with
613
00:35:55,697 --> 00:35:57,531
and never escape,
but at the same time,
614
00:35:57,532 --> 00:36:02,119
she was right to
stand up for herself.
615
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,707
I'm glad I stood up for myself.
616
00:36:06,708 --> 00:36:10,627
But I felt like an outsider
within my own community.
617
00:36:13,381 --> 00:36:15,466
The way that I deal
with things is trying
618
00:36:15,467 --> 00:36:19,678
to compartmentalize what is
going on under the surface.
619
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:23,766
Because my job is to be
a professional climber.
620
00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:26,143
And if I'm not climbing
something of significance
621
00:36:26,144 --> 00:36:29,646
each year, like,
I feel inadequate
622
00:36:29,647 --> 00:36:32,649
and not deserving of
the support that I have.
623
00:36:34,235 --> 00:36:36,695
Seeing pressure as a reason
624
00:36:36,696 --> 00:36:41,367
to hit the gas harder is...
625
00:36:41,368 --> 00:36:43,661
has always been my mentality.
626
00:36:46,164 --> 00:36:49,208
She has unbelievable goals
that are going to push her
627
00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:51,460
mentally and physically
and push female climbing
628
00:36:51,461 --> 00:36:53,379
and push climbing in general.
629
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:56,507
She also is very aware of the
fact that she's getting older,
630
00:36:56,508 --> 00:36:58,384
and she's aware
of what transpires
631
00:36:58,385 --> 00:37:02,638
and how brand relationships
transition as you get older
632
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:04,515
and maybe you become
slightly less relevant.
633
00:37:04,516 --> 00:37:07,518
She is very much
grasping with like, well,
634
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,521
what does it mean if some
day I'm not as relevant?
635
00:37:10,522 --> 00:37:13,273
And I think she's thinking
of all that emotionally,
636
00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:15,234
and I think she's also
thinking about it financially.
637
00:37:15,235 --> 00:37:17,986
I'm in the prime of my career,
638
00:37:17,987 --> 00:37:21,448
and I want to take advantage
of that as much as possible.
639
00:37:21,449 --> 00:37:26,537
And that's going after
these first female ascents.
640
00:37:26,538 --> 00:37:28,664
When I see a woman
has done a climb,
641
00:37:28,665 --> 00:37:31,667
it all of a sudden connects
the dots that it's like,
642
00:37:31,668 --> 00:37:34,378
oh, wow, if she did
it, I can do it.
643
00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:35,921
And so in a way,
it kind of opens
644
00:37:35,922 --> 00:37:37,798
this floodgate of possibility.
645
00:37:46,141 --> 00:37:49,143
Sao Tome didn't work
out, and I came home
646
00:37:49,144 --> 00:37:52,229
hungry to go and lead
another big wall,
647
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:54,565
all-female expedition.
648
00:37:54,566 --> 00:37:58,902
And that came in the form
of Logical Progression,
649
00:37:58,903 --> 00:38:02,865
the most badass sport
big wall in the world,
650
00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:06,410
a 3,000-foot face
climb up a monolith
651
00:38:06,411 --> 00:38:10,039
called El Gigante in Mexico.
652
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,707
The route hadn't
been free-climbed
653
00:38:11,708 --> 00:38:13,250
by a woman before.
654
00:38:13,251 --> 00:38:15,294
And all the men that had done it
655
00:38:15,295 --> 00:38:17,129
were these big names
that I respected,
656
00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:19,423
like Josh Wharton, Alex Honnold,
657
00:38:19,424 --> 00:38:23,218
Sonnie Trotter, Hayden Kennedy.
658
00:38:23,219 --> 00:38:27,639
I was dead set on going
there and trying it.
659
00:38:29,392 --> 00:38:30,893
The Logical Progression
will suit you really well,
660
00:38:30,894 --> 00:38:32,478
because it's, like,
techy vert fingery.
661
00:38:32,479 --> 00:38:35,564
And it's like technical and
sort of meander back and forth.
662
00:38:35,565 --> 00:38:37,441
But overall, I remember
the whole route basically
663
00:38:37,442 --> 00:38:39,151
being small edges up the face.
664
00:38:39,152 --> 00:38:40,194
- Okay, so like...
- You know, like... like,
665
00:38:40,195 --> 00:38:41,278
miles of just creeping
up a vertical wall.
666
00:38:41,279 --> 00:38:42,613
- Climb vertical...
- Yeah.
667
00:38:42,614 --> 00:38:44,031
And then I remember
that the first pitches
668
00:38:44,032 --> 00:38:47,785
is are more thought-provoking
than the rating would imply.
669
00:38:47,786 --> 00:38:49,286
You know, you're like, "Oh,
11-A, that'll be fast."
670
00:38:49,287 --> 00:38:50,246
And then you get up
there, you're like,
671
00:38:50,247 --> 00:38:51,705
"Where are the holds?"
It's all confusing.
672
00:38:51,706 --> 00:38:53,333
Yeah.
673
00:38:57,712 --> 00:38:58,921
If someone's a
professional climber,
674
00:38:58,922 --> 00:39:02,383
you can kind of tell by the
way they move on a rock.
675
00:39:02,384 --> 00:39:03,801
That's how I judge a
professional climber
676
00:39:03,802 --> 00:39:07,805
is if they can just show up
at the crag and climb well.
677
00:39:07,806 --> 00:39:09,682
Boy.
678
00:39:09,683 --> 00:39:10,724
Sasha definitely has that.
679
00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:12,309
You watch her climb,
and you can tell
680
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:14,353
that she's really good at it.
681
00:39:18,983 --> 00:39:21,652
I think I'm dying, because my
right hip is really throbbing.
682
00:39:21,653 --> 00:39:24,488
Like, last night, like, I had
to take three Advil at night.
683
00:39:24,489 --> 00:39:26,031
I kind of, like, went cold.
684
00:39:26,032 --> 00:39:29,201
"I was like, " I can't
go to Mexico with this.
685
00:39:29,202 --> 00:39:32,538
I need to get a
cortisone shot."
686
00:39:32,539 --> 00:39:35,165
Finally went in, and
it turned out I needed
687
00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:37,292
a total hip reconstruction.
688
00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:39,503
Because my femur
head was essentially
689
00:39:39,504 --> 00:39:41,672
popping out of the socket.
690
00:39:41,673 --> 00:39:44,758
It would be a series of five
surgeries over the course
691
00:39:44,759 --> 00:39:45,801
of about a year.
692
00:39:45,802 --> 00:39:47,678
And the surgeon didn't know if I
693
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,638
would be able to
return to the level
694
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,307
of climbing that I was at.
695
00:39:55,311 --> 00:39:59,732
But since I already had done
all of the damage to my hips,
696
00:39:59,733 --> 00:40:02,985
two weeks wasn't going to make
it necessarily much worse.
697
00:40:02,986 --> 00:40:05,487
So I could go to Mexico,
complete the climb,
698
00:40:05,488 --> 00:40:09,700
and then return for surgery.
699
00:40:09,701 --> 00:40:11,869
I was in a state
of total disarray
700
00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:14,538
and trying to process the
news that I had just gotten
701
00:40:14,539 --> 00:40:18,417
about the potential
career-ending set of surgeries
702
00:40:18,418 --> 00:40:20,169
that I'd have to go through.
703
00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:21,337
So that's... yeah.
704
00:40:21,338 --> 00:40:24,173
And then I got the
call about Nolan.
705
00:40:25,383 --> 00:40:27,593
Nolan was a really
beloved member
706
00:40:27,594 --> 00:40:31,055
of the community in climbing
and in base jumping.
707
00:40:31,056 --> 00:40:37,056
He had gone ahead to hang
static lines for my team.
708
00:40:40,398 --> 00:40:42,358
He was climbing the route,
709
00:40:42,359 --> 00:40:46,070
and a major ledge
that he was on broke.
710
00:40:46,071 --> 00:40:48,697
He fell from over 1,000 feet.
711
00:40:51,576 --> 00:40:54,578
We had left Mexico
the next morning.
712
00:40:54,579 --> 00:40:59,333
Nolan's whole family flew down.
713
00:40:59,334 --> 00:41:01,210
After we recovered Nolan's body,
714
00:41:01,211 --> 00:41:04,922
we shut the expedition
down, and we all flew home.
715
00:41:04,923 --> 00:41:09,843
I felt extremely lost
and confused and broken.
716
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,652
I had hardly gotten
home from Mexico,
717
00:41:26,653 --> 00:41:31,533
and I went in for my
first hip surgery.
718
00:42:12,866 --> 00:42:16,452
Sasha's tagline was,
you're not the boss of me.
719
00:42:17,787 --> 00:42:20,080
She said it all the time.
720
00:42:20,081 --> 00:42:23,000
My husband would say something
that she didn't want to do.
721
00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:25,836
She'd say, well, "I'm
going to get a new family."
722
00:42:25,837 --> 00:42:28,130
Such a very tiny little girl.
723
00:42:28,131 --> 00:42:29,465
Sasha?
724
00:42:29,466 --> 00:42:30,883
Oh, she's waking up.
725
00:42:30,884 --> 00:42:32,343
Sasha?
726
00:42:32,344 --> 00:42:36,055
Hey, good morning.
727
00:42:36,056 --> 00:42:37,514
Can you wiggle your toes?
728
00:42:37,515 --> 00:42:39,767
Oh, there we go. Lift them up.
729
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,020
Push down with the
arms all the way.
730
00:42:43,021 --> 00:42:44,605
No weight on that leg.
731
00:42:44,606 --> 00:42:48,442
Sasha doesn't like to
not do something well.
732
00:42:48,443 --> 00:42:51,570
And she doesn't like
to be imperfect.
733
00:42:51,571 --> 00:42:54,323
So she'll just do it
and do it and do it.
734
00:42:54,324 --> 00:42:57,701
Surgery number two, here we go.
735
00:42:57,702 --> 00:43:00,371
Here I had this little
kid going off on weekends
736
00:43:00,372 --> 00:43:02,122
climbing up these mountains.
737
00:43:02,123 --> 00:43:05,417
She gave up her senior prom
to go on a climbing trip.
738
00:43:05,418 --> 00:43:06,794
Like, there was no choice.
739
00:43:06,795 --> 00:43:09,963
Like, "I'm not going to prom."
740
00:43:09,964 --> 00:43:11,423
- Yay.
- Yay.
741
00:43:14,219 --> 00:43:16,053
Watch this, Mom.
742
00:43:16,054 --> 00:43:17,846
Press into this.
743
00:43:17,847 --> 00:43:20,224
I allowed her to
do what she wanted.
744
00:43:20,225 --> 00:43:21,892
I allowed her to go to Europe
745
00:43:21,893 --> 00:43:25,437
with her boyfriend
when she was just 16.
746
00:43:25,438 --> 00:43:27,398
She came back with
another boyfriend too.
747
00:43:27,399 --> 00:43:29,191
It was, like, a Norwegian.
748
00:43:29,192 --> 00:43:33,320
I trusted myself,
and I trusted her.
749
00:43:33,321 --> 00:43:37,658
And I really didn't care
about what anybody else said.
750
00:43:37,659 --> 00:43:40,202
Here we go again.
751
00:43:40,203 --> 00:43:42,454
Love you.
752
00:43:43,998 --> 00:43:45,708
When she told me
she was planning
753
00:43:45,709 --> 00:43:47,584
on doing Logical Progression,
754
00:43:47,585 --> 00:43:50,796
I wasn't so sure I
really wanted her to,
755
00:43:50,797 --> 00:43:54,049
but Sasha just sets her goals.
756
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:57,094
And who am I to
say you can't do it
757
00:43:57,095 --> 00:44:00,681
when that's what
she wants to do?
758
00:44:00,682 --> 00:44:02,433
Good.
759
00:44:02,434 --> 00:44:04,101
I could lay on a
whole lot of guilt,
760
00:44:04,102 --> 00:44:09,898
but I'm going to save that
for when I really need it.
761
00:44:26,708 --> 00:44:29,293
I was really in
an emotional state
762
00:44:29,294 --> 00:44:32,212
after the surgeries and
not really knowing, like,
763
00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:35,007
what life would look like.
764
00:44:35,008 --> 00:44:38,052
I started thinking about
what I could control,
765
00:44:38,053 --> 00:44:43,182
so I started thinking more
about what impact my nutrition
766
00:44:43,183 --> 00:44:45,893
could have on my
body accelerating
767
00:44:45,894 --> 00:44:50,689
through the recovery process.
768
00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:53,817
The deep, dark
undercurrent of climbing
769
00:44:53,818 --> 00:44:55,235
that's the elephant in the room
770
00:44:55,236 --> 00:44:59,156
to a lot of climbers
and myself included,
771
00:44:59,157 --> 00:45:03,702
is the conversation
about weight.
772
00:45:03,703 --> 00:45:08,499
For group A with
Sasha DiGiulian,
773
00:45:10,293 --> 00:45:14,421
2010, I was, like, at
the top of my podiums,
774
00:45:14,422 --> 00:45:20,302
and I was 94 pounds.
775
00:45:20,303 --> 00:45:23,305
Being skinny on the wall
meant less weight to pull up
776
00:45:23,306 --> 00:45:29,061
the wall, but it also meant a
future of just health issues
777
00:45:29,062 --> 00:45:33,941
that were unavoidable
if I kept on that track,
778
00:45:33,942 --> 00:45:36,860
what I'm going to eat, how
much food I'm going to eat,
779
00:45:36,861 --> 00:45:39,613
thinking that I needed
to keep losing weight.
780
00:45:41,991 --> 00:45:44,076
The people who are
winning the world cups
781
00:45:44,077 --> 00:45:47,788
were way thinner than I was.
782
00:45:48,749 --> 00:45:50,791
I think there was
maybe, like, a period
783
00:45:50,792 --> 00:45:52,793
where I hadn't seen her
in, like, a year or two,
784
00:45:52,794 --> 00:45:54,545
and I bumped into her.
785
00:45:54,546 --> 00:46:00,342
And I almost didn't
recognize her.
786
00:46:00,343 --> 00:46:05,264
And, you know, my heart
just kind of dropped,
787
00:46:05,265 --> 00:46:09,560
because she just looked
788
00:46:09,561 --> 00:46:13,063
so skinny and not healthy.
789
00:46:13,064 --> 00:46:18,277
As I progressed in my 20s, I
wanted to build my strength
790
00:46:18,278 --> 00:46:19,945
instead of lose weight.
791
00:46:19,946 --> 00:46:22,406
My experience with malnutrition
792
00:46:22,407 --> 00:46:23,782
led me to really want to learn
793
00:46:23,783 --> 00:46:26,910
a lot more about nutrition.
794
00:46:26,911 --> 00:46:30,873
And it's only really been
over the last few years
795
00:46:30,874 --> 00:46:32,082
that I've felt, like,
796
00:46:32,083 --> 00:46:34,752
really confident in my own skin.
797
00:46:38,548 --> 00:46:40,966
I love waking up,
moving my body,
798
00:46:40,967 --> 00:46:43,093
taking part in everyday life.
799
00:46:43,094 --> 00:46:46,930
And when you're injured,
you don't get to do that.
800
00:46:46,931 --> 00:46:51,643
And so it makes you
feel super vulnerable.
801
00:46:51,644 --> 00:46:54,355
I can't really explain very well
802
00:46:54,356 --> 00:46:59,276
why I'm so inspired to
climb Logical Progression.
803
00:46:59,277 --> 00:47:01,695
It's just a climb
that represents a lot.
804
00:47:01,696 --> 00:47:03,447
It represents this
entire journey
805
00:47:03,448 --> 00:47:04,948
of what I've gone through.
806
00:47:04,949 --> 00:47:08,577
And it represented this
driving force for me
807
00:47:08,578 --> 00:47:11,413
before my injury.
808
00:47:11,414 --> 00:47:13,999
And it represented something
that I wanted to do,
809
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,710
that I was committed to,
that I was training for.
810
00:47:16,711 --> 00:47:22,711
And it's almost like the climb
itself is what separates me
811
00:47:23,009 --> 00:47:26,595
before all of this and me now.
812
00:47:26,596 --> 00:47:29,056
Just by being on
Logical Progression,
813
00:47:29,057 --> 00:47:31,767
I get to confront
my fears head on.
814
00:47:34,771 --> 00:47:39,441
It's totally insane
for her to be
815
00:47:39,442 --> 00:47:41,193
pursuing a goal like this
816
00:47:41,194 --> 00:47:44,613
on the heels of five surgeries.
817
00:47:44,614 --> 00:47:45,906
It's beyond dark comedy.
818
00:47:45,907 --> 00:47:48,075
It's kind of like,
"What are we doing here?
819
00:47:48,076 --> 00:47:49,535
"Like, your hips aren't ready.
820
00:47:49,536 --> 00:47:50,994
"You don't have a partner.
821
00:47:50,995 --> 00:47:53,789
Like, give it a
couple months."
822
00:47:53,790 --> 00:47:55,416
Okay.
823
00:47:55,417 --> 00:47:58,836
To have one surgery
where they break her hip
824
00:47:58,837 --> 00:48:02,673
and reconstruct it,
putting in four big screws,
825
00:48:02,674 --> 00:48:03,716
recovered from that,
826
00:48:03,717 --> 00:48:05,801
second hip, same thing,
827
00:48:05,802 --> 00:48:09,096
those are pretty
major operations.
828
00:48:09,097 --> 00:48:13,183
She's an elite athlete,
and I think she probably,
829
00:48:13,184 --> 00:48:17,896
like me, recovers
faster than most people.
830
00:48:17,897 --> 00:48:21,692
Hopefully, I'll be ready
to go to Mexico in April.
831
00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:23,360
You'll see how it goes.
832
00:48:23,361 --> 00:48:26,196
I think it's not bad
to go and look at it
833
00:48:26,197 --> 00:48:29,366
and suss it out and
check it out and,
834
00:48:29,367 --> 00:48:31,952
you know, do a survey and, like,
835
00:48:31,953 --> 00:48:33,412
maybe climb some pitches.
836
00:48:33,413 --> 00:48:36,874
But I don't expect
you to complete it.
837
00:48:55,352 --> 00:48:57,144
You know, I went to Boulder,
and I spent time with her,
838
00:48:57,145 --> 00:49:00,064
like, watching her
recovery, and, like,
839
00:49:00,065 --> 00:49:03,067
she was a long ways away
840
00:49:03,068 --> 00:49:05,110
from getting to the point where
841
00:49:05,111 --> 00:49:07,237
she could do
Logical Progression.
842
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,741
For the last year,
she's been sitting still
843
00:49:10,742 --> 00:49:12,242
and waiting and trying to heal.
844
00:49:12,243 --> 00:49:15,204
Like, I know she needs this.
845
00:49:15,205 --> 00:49:17,956
She needs a challenge that's
not just a small challenge.
846
00:49:17,957 --> 00:49:19,416
She needs something that, like,
847
00:49:19,417 --> 00:49:24,004
is just on the ragged
edge of insanity.
848
00:49:24,005 --> 00:49:25,381
It's binary for her.
849
00:49:25,382 --> 00:49:26,382
Like, this is it.
850
00:49:26,383 --> 00:49:28,550
Like, she's either going
to do this and pull it off
851
00:49:28,551 --> 00:49:31,595
and she's back, or she's
not going to do it,
852
00:49:31,596 --> 00:49:34,682
and these hip surgeries
were the end of her
853
00:49:34,683 --> 00:49:35,808
professional climbing.
854
00:49:35,809 --> 00:49:38,602
Like, it almost feels like
she's that fixated on it.
855
00:49:40,188 --> 00:49:43,273
Getting on challenging climbs
856
00:49:43,274 --> 00:49:45,693
is good for me,
because then I just get
857
00:49:45,694 --> 00:49:48,278
that fitness and power back.
858
00:49:48,279 --> 00:49:51,240
It's, like, a humbling
experience, I think.
859
00:49:51,241 --> 00:49:54,326
I mean, I'm just so
happy to be back on rock,
860
00:49:54,327 --> 00:50:00,327
but I don't feel my most in
shape or anything like that.
861
00:50:00,458 --> 00:50:04,128
And remembering that I did
go through five surgeries
862
00:50:04,129 --> 00:50:06,505
and a lot of time off climbing,
863
00:50:06,506 --> 00:50:09,258
like, it's important
for me to remember that.
864
00:50:10,301 --> 00:50:13,095
Returning to Logical
Progression for me
865
00:50:13,096 --> 00:50:16,849
is how I could get
back and through
866
00:50:16,850 --> 00:50:20,644
this really trying
time in my own life.
867
00:50:23,732 --> 00:50:27,651
Me, I would have delayed
Mexico a couple of months.
868
00:50:27,652 --> 00:50:28,986
I've never made her decisions.
869
00:50:28,987 --> 00:50:30,904
She knows when she's ready.
870
00:50:30,905 --> 00:50:33,324
If she says she's
ready, she's ready.
871
00:50:35,577 --> 00:50:39,621
Sasha called me to ask me to
be a part of this expedition
872
00:50:39,622 --> 00:50:42,416
to Logical Progression.
873
00:50:42,417 --> 00:50:45,002
The problem was, I
wasn't really thinking
874
00:50:45,003 --> 00:50:47,087
about climbing at that level.
875
00:50:47,088 --> 00:50:49,173
It could have been
a great adventure
876
00:50:49,174 --> 00:50:51,383
but just wasn't the time for me.
877
00:50:51,384 --> 00:50:52,426
Nice.
878
00:50:52,427 --> 00:50:54,428
I knew Sasha was disappointed,
879
00:50:54,429 --> 00:50:59,475
but I had to follow
my instincts.
880
00:50:59,476 --> 00:51:05,356
I feel like we've got
everything in place.
881
00:51:05,357 --> 00:51:10,736
And yeah, if you have a
last-minute change of heart...
882
00:51:10,737 --> 00:51:11,820
Okay, I'm going.
883
00:51:11,821 --> 00:51:13,572
Yeah, you're like,
"Guys, wait."
884
00:51:26,086 --> 00:51:28,921
Dude, less than two weeks out.
885
00:51:28,922 --> 00:51:32,383
We can find another spot, right?
886
00:51:32,384 --> 00:51:34,968
So, Vian, you want to go first?
887
00:51:34,969 --> 00:51:36,261
No, you can go
first if you want.
888
00:51:36,262 --> 00:51:37,262
You're tying in. You go.
889
00:51:37,263 --> 00:51:38,389
I know, but you want to go?
890
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:40,307
Vian's a badass climber.
891
00:51:40,308 --> 00:51:44,144
And I've known her
for over ten years.
892
00:51:44,145 --> 00:51:48,065
And we met when she stole
my Swedish Fish at the crag.
893
00:51:48,066 --> 00:51:50,984
You just have to
tell everybody that,
894
00:51:50,985 --> 00:51:54,029
like I'm a Swedish Fish
thief or something.
895
00:51:54,030 --> 00:51:55,072
It was one time.
896
00:51:55,073 --> 00:51:56,573
I never did it again.
897
00:52:00,912 --> 00:52:04,582
11, including...
898
00:52:06,334 --> 00:52:10,587
Vian said she could
maybe make Mexico work.
899
00:52:10,588 --> 00:52:15,426
You're actually, like, the
first person that when I said,
900
00:52:15,427 --> 00:52:17,344
like, anything about
Mexico that's actually
901
00:52:17,345 --> 00:52:20,597
expressed enthusiasm
around going.
902
00:52:20,598 --> 00:52:21,598
But I'm down.
903
00:52:24,269 --> 00:52:26,103
We'll be safe. Okay,
I got to get going.
904
00:52:26,104 --> 00:52:28,022
- Okay.
- You clipping this?
905
00:52:28,023 --> 00:52:29,356
You want a stick clip?
906
00:52:29,357 --> 00:52:30,441
But I have one too.
907
00:52:30,442 --> 00:52:32,192
We're talking about,
like, weeks away
908
00:52:32,193 --> 00:52:33,610
from this expedition.
909
00:52:33,611 --> 00:52:37,114
And I come back from
work, and she's like,
910
00:52:37,115 --> 00:52:38,115
"Vian wants to go."
911
00:52:38,116 --> 00:52:39,950
And I'm like, "Who is Vian?"
912
00:52:39,951 --> 00:52:42,286
I've never even heard of Vian.
913
00:52:42,287 --> 00:52:44,455
I mean, as I
understand it, like,
914
00:52:44,456 --> 00:52:47,417
Vian hasn't done
a big wall before.
915
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,385
The first time I met
anybody, like, "famous,"
916
00:52:58,386 --> 00:53:00,137
it was actually Sasha.
917
00:53:00,138 --> 00:53:02,765
And I just, like, went
up and introduced myself.
918
00:53:02,766 --> 00:53:03,974
I was like, "Hi, I'm Vian."
919
00:53:03,975 --> 00:53:05,768
And, like, we hit
it off really well,
920
00:53:05,769 --> 00:53:08,312
and we were both climbing
in the Pipe Dream a lot,
921
00:53:08,313 --> 00:53:12,483
and we were just, like,
good friends after that.
922
00:53:12,484 --> 00:53:15,861
But yeah, I don't know
what really inspires me.
923
00:53:15,862 --> 00:53:19,406
I can't say for sure,
like, why I climb, like,
924
00:53:19,407 --> 00:53:22,117
there's some grand
thing behind it.
925
00:53:22,118 --> 00:53:24,703
I'm just kind of compelled.
926
00:53:26,456 --> 00:53:30,250
I never had the ambition to
be a professional climber,
927
00:53:30,251 --> 00:53:34,546
and I would never
want to be famous.
928
00:53:34,547 --> 00:53:38,050
I would not be able
to put on a happy face
929
00:53:38,051 --> 00:53:42,513
if I had to go to a crag and
there were ten people there
930
00:53:42,514 --> 00:53:44,807
who knew who I was and
expected me to climb
931
00:53:44,808 --> 00:53:48,727
really hard and take
photos with them.
932
00:53:48,728 --> 00:53:53,857
I think Sasha's handled fame
with a lot of grace and class.
933
00:53:53,858 --> 00:53:57,695
She's a really public
figure, and so a lot of shade
934
00:53:57,696 --> 00:53:59,905
gets thrown her way.
935
00:53:59,906 --> 00:54:05,703
I told Sasha, heavy is the
head that wears the crown.
936
00:54:19,718 --> 00:54:24,513
I was stubborn, independent.
937
00:54:24,514 --> 00:54:27,016
I guess it's just
the way that I am.
938
00:54:29,811 --> 00:54:33,564
I think I got a lot of
my ability to not see no
939
00:54:33,565 --> 00:54:37,192
as an option from my dad.
940
00:54:39,738 --> 00:54:42,406
"Was always, " See the light
at the end of the tunnel,
941
00:54:42,407 --> 00:54:45,409
and that's the option that
you're going to arrive at."
942
00:54:45,410 --> 00:54:47,077
There's going to be
roadblocks along the way,
943
00:54:47,078 --> 00:54:50,581
but it's always going to be
leading towards this goal.
944
00:54:50,582 --> 00:54:54,543
And then it's, by any
means possible, achieve it.
945
00:54:56,421 --> 00:54:59,757
When I was 22, my dad
took me to the airport
946
00:54:59,758 --> 00:55:03,552
to fly to Wyoming,
our little tradition.
947
00:55:05,597 --> 00:55:07,431
I was climbing in Wyoming,
948
00:55:07,432 --> 00:55:09,350
and my mom called me to tell me
949
00:55:09,351 --> 00:55:12,019
that my dad had had a stroke.
950
00:55:13,104 --> 00:55:16,899
I flew back immediately,
was there in the hospital.
951
00:55:18,151 --> 00:55:20,402
And we were asking all these
questions about what his state
952
00:55:20,403 --> 00:55:23,906
would be when he woke up,
and the surgeon was like,
953
00:55:23,907 --> 00:55:27,409
"You're not asking
the right questions."
954
00:55:27,410 --> 00:55:30,162
He never woke up.
955
00:55:34,084 --> 00:55:40,084
I mean, I felt the most gutted
that I have felt in my life.
956
00:55:40,548 --> 00:55:43,133
My response was just to
suppress all my feelings
957
00:55:43,134 --> 00:55:47,764
and just keep going, because
that's what I knew how to do.
958
00:55:53,812 --> 00:55:57,856
The first time I met Sasha,
she had just lost her father,
959
00:55:57,857 --> 00:56:02,486
and she gave a presentation
that was so, like, together.
960
00:56:02,487 --> 00:56:04,697
Like, she didn't
cry or anything.
961
00:56:04,698 --> 00:56:07,574
And it just made me think,
"Wow, she's really good
962
00:56:07,575 --> 00:56:10,577
"at compartmentalizing
her emotions
963
00:56:10,578 --> 00:56:12,996
and setting that
off to the side,"
964
00:56:12,997 --> 00:56:16,375
which you do have to do on
a scary route sometimes.
965
00:56:16,376 --> 00:56:18,419
You have to just say,
"Okay, I'm really scared,
966
00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:22,256
but I can't focus on that."
967
00:56:25,343 --> 00:56:26,468
- What's up, dude?
- What's up?
968
00:56:26,469 --> 00:56:28,345
Dude, we're going
to Mexico today.
969
00:56:28,346 --> 00:56:29,388
Yeah.
970
00:56:29,389 --> 00:56:30,931
Okay, I'm going to...
971
00:56:30,932 --> 00:56:31,808
I'll be in...
972
00:56:31,809 --> 00:56:33,517
I'll go get the bars too.
- Okay.
973
00:56:33,518 --> 00:56:35,310
Feel free to come
inside whenever.
974
00:56:35,311 --> 00:56:36,437
Come on, Moose.
975
00:56:36,438 --> 00:56:38,355
Wednesday, we
arrive to Chihuahua.
976
00:56:38,356 --> 00:56:41,650
Thursday, we drive from
Chihuahua to Basaseachi.
977
00:56:41,651 --> 00:56:46,030
Friday, we drive to the top of
the wall and rapp down to here.
978
00:56:46,031 --> 00:56:47,406
Down to the bottom.
979
00:56:47,407 --> 00:56:50,242
I was really excited
to do a big wall.
980
00:56:50,243 --> 00:56:53,370
I had never been on
a big wall before.
981
00:56:53,371 --> 00:56:58,375
I thought 300 bolts,
portaledge, no problem.
982
00:56:58,376 --> 00:57:01,754
I'd known Vian for
about a decade.
983
00:57:01,755 --> 00:57:06,300
She climbs super hard, and
she's been an incredibly
984
00:57:06,301 --> 00:57:07,634
supportive and loyal friend.
985
00:57:07,635 --> 00:57:10,220
And so I was excited by the idea
986
00:57:10,221 --> 00:57:11,430
of getting to know her better
987
00:57:11,431 --> 00:57:13,808
and going on this big
adventure with her.
988
00:57:15,727 --> 00:57:17,686
Oh, she's got
something equivalent.
989
00:57:17,687 --> 00:57:19,688
Sasha's never been
in this much pain.
990
00:57:19,689 --> 00:57:21,565
She's never been in a situation
991
00:57:21,566 --> 00:57:25,027
where she's this out of
shape before a climb.
992
00:57:25,028 --> 00:57:28,989
And seeing this audacious goal
that she's thrown on herself,
993
00:57:28,990 --> 00:57:30,532
it's just scary.
994
00:57:30,533 --> 00:57:35,829
And I think everyone that
loves her is terrified.
995
00:57:37,082 --> 00:57:40,751
She needs to go prove to
herself that she's still
996
00:57:40,752 --> 00:57:45,297
a professional climber,
that this injury hasn't
997
00:57:45,298 --> 00:57:49,009
ripped away her identity.
998
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:51,845
I don't know where you click
into that drive and that fire,
999
00:57:51,846 --> 00:57:55,140
but she has it, and
she clicks into it.
1000
00:57:55,141 --> 00:57:57,101
It's why she is who she is.
1001
00:58:05,235 --> 00:58:08,445
Why I do what I do?
1002
00:58:08,446 --> 00:58:12,074
That's a big question.
1003
00:58:15,161 --> 00:58:21,161
I think that proving a
goal, that's what drives me.
1004
00:58:28,633 --> 00:58:30,175
I'm nervous for the
rappel more than the climb
1005
00:58:30,176 --> 00:58:34,304
right now, because that's
what's the first thing to do,
1006
00:58:34,305 --> 00:58:36,098
and it's a lot of weight.
1007
00:58:36,099 --> 00:58:40,561
It's, like, maybe more weight
than I'm used to rapping with.
1008
00:58:40,562 --> 00:58:42,396
You got this.
1009
00:58:42,397 --> 00:58:43,397
Thanks, Vian.
1010
00:58:43,398 --> 00:58:45,024
Mm-hmm.
1011
00:58:45,025 --> 00:58:47,526
Achieving something
eats away at me.
1012
00:58:47,527 --> 00:58:53,527
Like, that's the way
that I approach my life.
1013
00:58:58,371 --> 00:58:59,371
Yeah.
1014
00:58:59,372 --> 00:59:00,331
The death of my hips.
1015
00:59:00,332 --> 00:59:01,583
Ohh.
1016
00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:05,419
Ow, my fingers.
1017
00:59:05,420 --> 00:59:07,463
I hate this bag.
1018
00:59:07,464 --> 00:59:10,799
We've officially started
the descent down.
1019
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,429
We all have pretty
heavy haul bags.
1020
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:21,060
And yeah, it's pretty
phenomenal being here.
1021
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,658
The hips are so sore.
1022
00:59:36,659 --> 00:59:40,871
That's pretty.
1023
00:59:40,872 --> 00:59:42,831
- Yeah.
- Do you copy?
1024
00:59:42,832 --> 00:59:46,669
After a night of no sleep,
we're racking up to rapp down
1025
00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:48,462
these first eight pitches.
1026
00:59:57,722 --> 01:00:00,349
Made it to the bottom.
1027
01:00:00,350 --> 01:00:01,433
We're at the bottom.
1028
01:00:01,434 --> 01:00:03,352
Do you want to go
first, or should I?
1029
01:00:03,353 --> 01:00:05,062
Whatever. Want to
Roshambo for it?
1030
01:00:05,063 --> 01:00:06,647
Yeah.
1031
01:00:06,648 --> 01:00:12,648
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
1032
01:00:14,989 --> 01:00:16,115
I go first.
1033
01:00:24,624 --> 01:00:28,544
Top of the second,
pulling Vian up.
1034
01:00:28,545 --> 01:00:30,587
There she is.
1035
01:00:30,588 --> 01:00:33,841
This is what's ahead of us.
1036
01:00:37,303 --> 01:00:38,846
We'll see how it goes.
1037
01:00:59,117 --> 01:01:02,661
We are here sitting
forever in the sun.
1038
01:01:02,662 --> 01:01:03,996
There's the sun.
1039
01:01:03,997 --> 01:01:05,247
Ow.
1040
01:01:05,248 --> 01:01:06,582
That hurt your eyes, didn't
it? You weren't expecting that.
1041
01:01:06,583 --> 01:01:10,586
You two would have been
like fried chicken.
1042
01:01:10,587 --> 01:01:12,588
It was definitely really hot.
1043
01:01:12,589 --> 01:01:15,341
The sun is just baking,
and the rock temperature
1044
01:01:15,342 --> 01:01:17,176
just goes way up.
1045
01:01:17,177 --> 01:01:19,595
And it's just a lot harder
when the rock temperature
1046
01:01:19,596 --> 01:01:22,514
is a lot higher.
1047
01:01:22,515 --> 01:01:27,354
And it's so hot right now.
1048
01:01:55,173 --> 01:01:57,216
Come on, work that
right foot in.
1049
01:01:57,217 --> 01:02:00,094
Come on, Digi, come on.
1050
01:02:02,514 --> 01:02:03,514
Ahh!
1051
01:02:03,515 --> 01:02:04,765
Oh, shit.
1052
01:02:04,766 --> 01:02:07,601
Fuck.
- All right.
1053
01:02:13,233 --> 01:02:16,610
Right foot high.
1054
01:02:31,459 --> 01:02:34,336
I see the next draw.
1055
01:02:46,224 --> 01:02:51,145
Okay. All right.
1056
01:02:53,565 --> 01:02:56,650
Okay.
1057
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:08,746
Whoo!
1058
01:03:08,747 --> 01:03:11,749
I'm at the anchor.
1059
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:14,543
Nice job.
1060
01:03:14,544 --> 01:03:18,422
Oh, my God.
1061
01:03:18,423 --> 01:03:20,341
I'm, like, shaking.
1062
01:03:20,342 --> 01:03:24,803
That's probably as hard
as I've ever seen her try.
1063
01:03:24,804 --> 01:03:28,390
And it just showed
to me how, like,
1064
01:03:28,391 --> 01:03:31,935
how fragile she was or how
much she just wanted this,
1065
01:03:31,936 --> 01:03:34,271
how badly she wanted
this, you know,
1066
01:03:34,272 --> 01:03:35,606
and for some people,
it's just, like,
1067
01:03:35,607 --> 01:03:36,607
it's just a climb, you know.
1068
01:03:36,608 --> 01:03:39,276
It's okay to say...
to stop, you know?
1069
01:03:39,277 --> 01:03:42,738
You know, you just... you just
had surgery not that long ago.
1070
01:03:42,739 --> 01:03:45,449
It's, like, maybe it was too...
1071
01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:46,992
too early.
1072
01:03:46,993 --> 01:03:49,953
You know, but for Sasha,
she just really needed this.
1073
01:03:49,954 --> 01:03:52,373
What made you keep going?
1074
01:03:52,374 --> 01:03:53,791
I think I just...
1075
01:03:53,792 --> 01:03:56,960
I literally just could
think right foot,
1076
01:03:56,961 --> 01:04:00,923
right hand, left
foot, left hand.
1077
01:04:00,924 --> 01:04:04,510
Like, I couldn't think
of anything else.
1078
01:04:04,511 --> 01:04:06,887
And then I was like, you
made it through the crux.
1079
01:04:06,888 --> 01:04:09,098
Like, just keep it together.
1080
01:04:09,099 --> 01:04:11,475
It'll be one less
pitch for tomorrow.
1081
01:04:18,817 --> 01:04:21,110
Day three, we don't know
whose spoon this is.
1082
01:04:21,111 --> 01:04:22,028
That's all.
1083
01:04:22,029 --> 01:04:23,737
I wasn't trying to, like...
1084
01:04:23,738 --> 01:04:25,322
Day three, I don't know
whose spoon this is.
1085
01:04:25,323 --> 01:04:26,657
I wasn't trying to make
you feel bad or anything.
1086
01:04:26,658 --> 01:04:28,951
That'd be my spoon,
but we can share.
1087
01:04:28,952 --> 01:04:30,828
Sharing is caring.
1088
01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:32,746
Man, I'm, like, triple-fisting.
1089
01:04:32,747 --> 01:04:35,499
I got my dirty
Chai with collagen,
1090
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:39,753
my trail mix, and my Red Bull.
1091
01:04:39,754 --> 01:04:41,839
Mm-hmm.
1092
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,800
And Kevin's over
there taking a shit.
1093
01:04:44,801 --> 01:04:47,845
Kevin?
1094
01:04:47,846 --> 01:04:50,347
We're just one
big, happy family.
1095
01:04:52,434 --> 01:04:58,434
After my surgeries, I
lost touch with who I was.
1096
01:05:01,067 --> 01:05:05,946
And I lost touch with what it
even feels like to succeed.
1097
01:05:05,947 --> 01:05:08,407
During the whole time
of being injured,
1098
01:05:08,408 --> 01:05:11,535
I didn't have any
feeling of success.
1099
01:05:13,246 --> 01:05:15,539
You got it.
1100
01:05:15,540 --> 01:05:16,582
Left hand up.
1101
01:05:16,583 --> 01:05:19,376
I put my right foot high.
1102
01:05:19,377 --> 01:05:20,711
Yeah.
1103
01:05:22,672 --> 01:05:26,175
Two finger, get
your right foot up.
1104
01:05:30,221 --> 01:05:32,723
We got into a situation
where we had to climb
1105
01:05:32,724 --> 01:05:35,392
a little bit at night.
1106
01:05:35,393 --> 01:05:39,396
And we went into the area
where Nolan had his accident.
1107
01:05:39,397 --> 01:05:41,440
And I know Sasha
didn't want to climb
1108
01:05:41,441 --> 01:05:43,150
that pitch in the dark.
1109
01:05:43,151 --> 01:05:48,113
It was pretty scary.
1110
01:05:48,114 --> 01:05:53,869
I just passed Nolan's rock
scar where the rock broke.
1111
01:05:53,870 --> 01:05:57,164
It's pretty visible,
but I couldn't see
1112
01:05:57,165 --> 01:05:58,415
what happened with the bolt.
1113
01:05:58,416 --> 01:06:01,627
My guess would be
that really big rock
1114
01:06:01,628 --> 01:06:04,088
picked off and cut his rope.
1115
01:06:04,089 --> 01:06:07,299
It was really scary, because
as I was passing that,
1116
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:11,762
my headlamp flashed
that it was dying.
1117
01:06:16,768 --> 01:06:21,480
Nolan didn't make any mistakes,
1118
01:06:21,481 --> 01:06:25,109
yet he died climbing.
1119
01:06:25,110 --> 01:06:28,487
It affected me in
a really heavy way,
1120
01:06:28,488 --> 01:06:32,449
because everything
was done right.
1121
01:06:41,376 --> 01:06:44,461
So many nights of not
sleeping is killing me.
1122
01:06:44,462 --> 01:06:46,922
I think I was in the
harness for 20 hours.
1123
01:06:46,923 --> 01:06:51,885
We've got three more
really long 5.12 pitches
1124
01:06:51,886 --> 01:06:54,888
that we need to do
tomorrow to then kind of
1125
01:06:54,889 --> 01:06:59,643
be back in the running to feel
like the rest of this route
1126
01:06:59,644 --> 01:07:03,189
is possible on free.
1127
01:07:09,279 --> 01:07:11,321
I went left foot pocket.
1128
01:07:11,322 --> 01:07:14,034
Yeah.
1129
01:07:17,579 --> 01:07:19,872
Augh! God!
1130
01:07:19,873 --> 01:07:21,665
That's a really hard transition.
1131
01:07:21,666 --> 01:07:22,709
It's hard.
1132
01:07:24,627 --> 01:07:26,295
Nice.
1133
01:07:28,465 --> 01:07:30,424
Good job.
1134
01:07:30,425 --> 01:07:31,425
Fuck, yeah.
1135
01:07:31,426 --> 01:07:32,426
Hell, yeah.
1136
01:07:32,427 --> 01:07:36,096
Good job.
1137
01:07:36,097 --> 01:07:38,682
- Pitch 13.
- Done.
1138
01:07:41,686 --> 01:07:44,688
Strenuous 45 minutes.
1139
01:07:44,689 --> 01:07:48,901
Holy guacamole.
1140
01:07:48,902 --> 01:07:50,277
Ohh.
1141
01:07:50,278 --> 01:07:53,030
Another pitch bites the dust.
1142
01:07:53,031 --> 01:07:56,116
So we've officially
crossed this side.
1143
01:07:56,117 --> 01:08:01,373
Now we're coming up to
finger to fist, route 17.
1144
01:08:03,083 --> 01:08:06,836
Going to...
1145
01:08:22,644 --> 01:08:24,812
Oh, yeah, we're going
to do the Spread Eagle.
1146
01:08:24,813 --> 01:08:25,813
Augh!
1147
01:08:26,815 --> 01:08:27,898
Ahh!
1148
01:08:27,899 --> 01:08:29,191
Augh.
1149
01:08:29,192 --> 01:08:32,570
That was a serious crag.
1150
01:08:37,409 --> 01:08:38,659
Augh!
1151
01:08:40,578 --> 01:08:41,704
Yeah, girl.
1152
01:08:41,705 --> 01:08:42,996
Augh!
1153
01:08:42,997 --> 01:08:48,377
Yes, sun.
1154
01:08:48,378 --> 01:08:49,503
Whoo.
1155
01:08:49,504 --> 01:08:51,338
Yeah. Okay.
1156
01:08:51,339 --> 01:08:52,506
That's it.
- Whoo!
1157
01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:54,591
Whoo!
1158
01:08:54,592 --> 01:08:56,885
Pow!
1159
01:08:56,886 --> 01:08:58,637
You're a good lead.
1160
01:08:58,638 --> 01:09:00,389
Thanks.
1161
01:09:00,390 --> 01:09:01,473
Move.
1162
01:09:01,474 --> 01:09:02,725
Am I in your face with my butt?
1163
01:09:02,726 --> 01:09:03,767
Oh!
1164
01:09:03,768 --> 01:09:04,852
Jesus.
1165
01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:06,562
That thing did look good.
1166
01:09:06,563 --> 01:09:09,064
Sure wasn't, though.
1167
01:09:13,945 --> 01:09:16,697
Just a little choss left.
1168
01:09:16,698 --> 01:09:19,825
I'm trying, Mom.
1169
01:09:21,786 --> 01:09:23,787
Got your spot.
1170
01:09:23,788 --> 01:09:25,330
I actually just did.
1171
01:09:25,331 --> 01:09:27,666
I think it saved you.
1172
01:09:41,306 --> 01:09:42,223
Stay with it.
1173
01:09:42,224 --> 01:09:43,807
You got it.
1174
01:09:48,063 --> 01:09:49,022
Nice, Sasha.
1175
01:09:49,023 --> 01:09:53,817
Come on.
1176
01:09:53,818 --> 01:09:58,822
Ahh! Fuck.
1177
01:09:58,823 --> 01:09:59,823
Nothing broke.
1178
01:09:59,824 --> 01:10:00,824
Nothing.
1179
01:10:00,825 --> 01:10:01,825
So much stuff broke.
1180
01:10:01,826 --> 01:10:04,244
It's so hard there.
1181
01:10:04,245 --> 01:10:05,954
Try that again.
1182
01:10:05,955 --> 01:10:06,955
Okay.
1183
01:10:06,956 --> 01:10:08,248
Ahh!
1184
01:10:08,249 --> 01:10:10,042
Such a big move.
1185
01:10:10,043 --> 01:10:11,043
Yeah.
1186
01:10:11,044 --> 01:10:12,586
Holy shit.
1187
01:10:12,587 --> 01:10:15,047
Yeah.
1188
01:10:16,216 --> 01:10:19,718
Man, I thought I could
get that last pitch.
1189
01:10:19,719 --> 01:10:23,514
Such a bummer.
1190
01:10:23,515 --> 01:10:26,517
If it sticks once,
it won't be as good.
1191
01:10:26,518 --> 01:10:31,815
So start in the back and
then end in the back.
1192
01:10:33,483 --> 01:10:38,696
I'm just like your
personal assistant here.
1193
01:10:40,198 --> 01:10:42,449
No, I said, you're
my best friend.
1194
01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:43,826
- Okay.
- Short of Moose.
1195
01:10:43,827 --> 01:10:46,245
You tell that to all
your climbing partners.
1196
01:10:46,246 --> 01:10:48,998
I don't have climbing partners.
1197
01:10:54,212 --> 01:10:57,339
When I met her in
2011 when she was 16,
1198
01:10:57,340 --> 01:11:01,719
she was very much
a protected kid.
1199
01:11:07,892 --> 01:11:13,647
But now Sasha is so strong,
and she's capable of anything.
1200
01:11:24,075 --> 01:11:28,537
And I'll just climb over here.
1201
01:12:01,279 --> 01:12:04,948
After my dad died,
1202
01:12:04,949 --> 01:12:07,826
I recognized that you're
mourning this space
1203
01:12:07,827 --> 01:12:12,289
that they left behind.
1204
01:12:12,290 --> 01:12:14,500
And that space that
they leave behind is...
1205
01:12:14,501 --> 01:12:16,460
it's really painful
to think about, like,
1206
01:12:16,461 --> 01:12:21,465
it never being filled again.
1207
01:12:21,466 --> 01:12:25,302
That space is what I
keep trying to fill.
1208
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:48,826
We did it.
1209
01:12:54,791 --> 01:12:58,419
It's kind of crazy.
1210
01:12:58,420 --> 01:13:02,506
I didn't even know if
I'd be climbing again
1211
01:13:02,507 --> 01:13:06,260
when I went in for
all those surgeries.
1212
01:13:06,261 --> 01:13:07,344
I really didn't.
1213
01:13:07,345 --> 01:13:11,056
I didn't know what to expect.
1214
01:13:44,507 --> 01:13:46,592
Climbing's opened a
lot of doors for me
1215
01:13:46,593 --> 01:13:48,260
to go down this journey...
1216
01:13:51,556 --> 01:13:54,391
But also to realize that
a lot of satisfaction
1217
01:13:54,392 --> 01:13:57,686
and joy that I get out of life
1218
01:13:57,687 --> 01:13:58,979
doesn't need to always come
1219
01:13:58,980 --> 01:14:03,650
from the physical
sense of sending.
1220
01:14:03,651 --> 01:14:08,364
And my path forward
doesn't necessarily center
1221
01:14:08,365 --> 01:14:10,282
around climbing.
1222
01:14:10,283 --> 01:14:16,038
โช A million little knives โช
1223
01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:17,956
โช Carve out your name โช
1224
01:14:21,336 --> 01:14:25,631
โช In the small of my back โช
1225
01:14:25,632 --> 01:14:29,051
I needed to learn
purpose beyond a wall.
1226
01:14:29,052 --> 01:14:33,055
And I think that that does
come with a sense of security.
1227
01:14:33,056 --> 01:14:35,724
And I would argue that
it comes with a sense
1228
01:14:35,725 --> 01:14:40,854
of career and sense of home.
1229
01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:45,901
I didn't want to tell
the City of Boulder
1230
01:14:45,902 --> 01:14:48,529
that we're done,
because I just want
1231
01:14:48,530 --> 01:14:50,364
to be complete with
the whole project.
1232
01:14:50,365 --> 01:14:51,949
- Yeah.
- And at that point,
1233
01:14:51,950 --> 01:14:56,453
we can address this issue of
possibly changing the name,
1234
01:14:56,454 --> 01:14:59,623
because they have it
registered as Vamos Chicas.
1235
01:14:59,624 --> 01:15:03,210
And Queen Line might
be a better name
1236
01:15:03,211 --> 01:15:05,087
just because it's on the maiden.
1237
01:15:05,088 --> 01:15:07,715
And it is the best
line, I think,
1238
01:15:07,716 --> 01:15:09,341
on that whole formation.
1239
01:15:09,342 --> 01:15:11,593
And you always hear King Line.
1240
01:15:11,594 --> 01:15:13,053
- Yeah.
- Why not Queen Line?
1241
01:15:13,054 --> 01:15:14,138
Or, like, the queen.
1242
01:15:14,139 --> 01:15:16,140
The queen, the queens.
1243
01:15:16,141 --> 01:15:17,224
The queens.
1244
01:15:17,225 --> 01:15:19,601
Yeah, I like it, Queen Line.
1245
01:15:19,602 --> 01:15:24,314
I think it's a perfect name.
1246
01:15:29,821 --> 01:15:31,655
This is the day.
We're going to do it.
1247
01:15:31,656 --> 01:15:33,866
Let's go. The
queen on the line.
1248
01:15:33,867 --> 01:15:37,786
Ladies and gentlemen,
the first pitch.
1249
01:15:37,787 --> 01:15:40,414
Here we go.
1250
01:15:42,709 --> 01:15:45,002
Lynn's shown to me
how to age gracefully
1251
01:15:45,003 --> 01:15:46,837
within the sport and
still be involved
1252
01:15:46,838 --> 01:15:51,967
and still be a steward
of the community
1253
01:15:51,968 --> 01:15:55,179
and be out there
pushing new lines
1254
01:15:55,180 --> 01:15:57,389
and supporting climbers.
1255
01:16:19,662 --> 01:16:22,873
Sasha has a chance to
really look at periods
1256
01:16:22,874 --> 01:16:27,086
of life and what her
actual goals are..
1257
01:16:30,173 --> 01:16:32,633
What she wants to do, not
what's expected of her,
1258
01:16:32,634 --> 01:16:36,553
but what she wants to
do, what makes her happy.
1259
01:16:40,725 --> 01:16:42,810
She's young and still ambitious
1260
01:16:42,811 --> 01:16:44,853
and wanting to do more and more.
1261
01:16:44,854 --> 01:16:46,980
At 30, she's still
got a lot of time
1262
01:16:46,981 --> 01:16:51,235
to do a lot of really
amazing things.
1263
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:05,582
We each have that
thing that drives us.
1264
01:17:05,583 --> 01:17:07,376
And that thing that drives us,
1265
01:17:07,377 --> 01:17:13,377
that passion is what I
feel really strongly about
1266
01:17:14,551 --> 01:17:18,762
harnessing and
embracing and nurturing.
1267
01:17:18,763 --> 01:17:21,724
And that's more important
than any summit,
1268
01:17:21,725 --> 01:17:24,226
than any achievement.
1269
01:17:53,631 --> 01:17:59,631
โช No, no, no, no, no โช
1270
01:17:59,763 --> 01:18:04,850
โช And I will never be โช
1271
01:18:04,851 --> 01:18:10,851
โช And I will never see โช
1272
01:18:11,358 --> 01:18:15,819
โช And every choice I make โช
1273
01:18:15,820 --> 01:18:21,408
โช Consequences negative โช
1274
01:18:21,409 --> 01:18:26,663
โช Battle zone is known to me โช
1275
01:18:26,664 --> 01:18:32,461
โช And you to me โช
1276
01:18:32,462 --> 01:18:37,299
โช Most important feel, feel โช
1277
01:18:51,314 --> 01:18:52,648
โช No, no, no, no, no, โช
1278
01:18:52,649 --> 01:18:56,485
โช No no, no, no,
no no, no, no, no โช
99569
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