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Damn it all! 7 00:00:17,202 --> 00:00:19,663 ...was struggling to keep pace with their rival, 8 00:00:19,663 --> 00:00:21,915 the World Wrestling Federation. 9 00:00:21,915 --> 00:00:26,086 You are lookin' at the next WWF champion, 10 00:00:26,086 --> 00:00:28,005 and that's the bottom line! 11 00:00:28,005 --> 00:00:32,050 In many ways WCW's fortunes and future 12 00:00:32,050 --> 00:00:34,511 hinged on one key event. 13 00:00:34,511 --> 00:00:36,263 Bash at the Beach 2000. 14 00:00:36,263 --> 00:00:39,807 Candidly, one of the biggest disasters of my entire career. 15 00:00:39,807 --> 00:00:43,519 Bash at the Beach was one of WCW's biggest annual 16 00:00:43,519 --> 00:00:46,772 pay per view events, and in the year 2000, 17 00:00:46,772 --> 00:00:49,942 it was the stage for an epic clash between two of 18 00:00:49,942 --> 00:00:53,821 wrestlings most controversial creative talents. 19 00:00:53,821 --> 00:00:57,533 And I promise you will never see that piece of shit again. 20 00:00:57,533 --> 00:01:00,911 I think Vince Russo is motivated by attention. 21 00:01:00,911 --> 00:01:02,245 I don't know why. 22 00:01:02,245 --> 00:01:03,538 I don't know if he didn't get enough 23 00:01:03,538 --> 00:01:05,040 when he was a little kid. 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,752 Eric represented everything I despised 25 00:01:08,752 --> 00:01:10,796 in the wrestling business. 26 00:01:10,796 --> 00:01:13,840 And bro, I'll tell ya, you're never gonna out work me 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,092 because I'm better than you. 28 00:01:16,092 --> 00:01:18,428 [Laughing] If he believes that, 29 00:01:18,428 --> 00:01:20,597 he's got a problem with reality. 30 00:01:20,597 --> 00:01:23,600 The incident at Bash of the Beach 2000 is one 31 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,560 in which every participant has their own version of 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,938 what actually took place that night. 33 00:01:28,938 --> 00:01:32,566 And I said, "Hulk, you're not walking out of here 34 00:01:32,566 --> 00:01:35,861 the WCW champion. That is not happening." 35 00:01:35,861 --> 00:01:36,862 What's Jeff doing? 36 00:01:36,862 --> 00:01:39,281 Now it was script's out the window, what's gonna happen? 37 00:01:39,281 --> 00:01:42,117 And it's like, nobody wants to watch wrestling and see that. 38 00:01:42,117 --> 00:01:44,036 It was one of the dumbest things I ever saw. 39 00:01:44,036 --> 00:01:49,165 And Hogan, you big bald son of a bitch, kiss my ass! 40 00:01:49,165 --> 00:01:50,750 That was never my plan. 41 00:01:52,627 --> 00:01:54,712 Hogan was pretty sensitive about being called bald, 42 00:01:54,712 --> 00:01:56,464 even though he doesn't have any hair. 43 00:01:56,464 --> 00:01:59,425 Did I know that Hulk Hogan was gonna take legal action? 44 00:01:59,425 --> 00:02:00,677 How could you not? 45 00:02:00,677 --> 00:02:02,595 There will come a time, there will come a place, 46 00:02:02,595 --> 00:02:04,931 when I will tell the entire story of what happened 47 00:02:04,931 --> 00:02:06,683 at Bash at the Beach. 48 00:02:06,683 --> 00:02:09,018 The legacy of Bash at the Beach, 49 00:02:09,018 --> 00:02:12,981 the single biggest black eye in WCW history. 50 00:02:12,981 --> 00:02:16,733 ♪ 51 00:02:16,733 --> 00:02:20,571 ♪ 52 00:02:23,866 --> 00:02:25,742 I despise the wrestling business, bro, 53 00:02:25,742 --> 00:02:27,494 I despise the people in it. 54 00:02:27,494 --> 00:02:31,665 You cannot be a good person and 55 00:02:31,665 --> 00:02:33,500 exist in the wrestling business. 56 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:37,211 You can't bro, because you enter a shark tank. 57 00:02:37,211 --> 00:02:40,965 And unless you become a shark, 58 00:02:40,965 --> 00:02:44,427 they will eat you alive. 59 00:02:44,427 --> 00:02:46,387 My name is Vince Russo. 60 00:02:46,387 --> 00:02:49,515 I was in the wrestling business since 1991. 61 00:02:49,515 --> 00:02:51,892 So, I'm going on 32 years now. 62 00:02:51,892 --> 00:02:53,686 [Cheering] 63 00:02:53,686 --> 00:02:57,273 You can boo all you want, that doesn't change 64 00:02:57,273 --> 00:03:00,401 the fact that I'm better than you! 65 00:03:00,401 --> 00:03:04,988 What I'm looking for tonight is ratings, big ratings! 66 00:03:04,988 --> 00:03:09,909 And we're gonna deliver, you son of a bitch! 67 00:03:09,909 --> 00:03:13,038 Vince, we've gotta know, who is the WCW 68 00:03:13,038 --> 00:03:14,873 World's Heavyweight Champion? 69 00:03:14,873 --> 00:03:16,958 -Question? -Question. 70 00:03:16,958 --> 00:03:18,668 -There is no question, Mike. -There is no question? 71 00:03:18,668 --> 00:03:19,794 Who is here with the belt? 72 00:03:28,344 --> 00:03:30,429 Um... 73 00:03:30,429 --> 00:03:31,513 Harm. 74 00:03:31,513 --> 00:03:35,392 Yeah, I'd say, long-term harm. Yeah, yeah. 75 00:03:35,392 --> 00:03:38,687 In the 1990s, professional wrestling is bigger and 76 00:03:38,687 --> 00:03:41,148 hotter than it has ever been before, 77 00:03:41,148 --> 00:03:43,859 as industry leader Vince McMahon's World Wrestling 78 00:03:43,859 --> 00:03:47,738 Federation faces a serious challenge to its popularity 79 00:03:47,738 --> 00:03:51,658 by an aggressive challenger- billionaire Ted Turner's 80 00:03:51,658 --> 00:03:54,452 World Championship Wrestling. 81 00:03:54,452 --> 00:03:55,703 WWF would have been the dominant company 82 00:03:55,703 --> 00:04:00,792 from '84 through, I would say, '96? 83 00:04:00,792 --> 00:04:04,170 In '96 it flipped over and WCW was dominant. 84 00:04:04,170 --> 00:04:06,339 My name is Dave Meltzer and I'm the editor of the 85 00:04:06,339 --> 00:04:07,590 Wrestling Observer Newsletter, and 86 00:04:07,590 --> 00:04:10,301 I've been covering pro wrestling since the early 1970s. 87 00:04:10,301 --> 00:04:12,261 The flaw of Vince McMahon is the only thing 88 00:04:12,261 --> 00:04:14,262 so certain thing works. That's it. 89 00:04:14,262 --> 00:04:15,555 And there's a million things in wrestling that 90 00:04:15,555 --> 00:04:17,265 when done well can work. 91 00:04:17,265 --> 00:04:20,227 As both companies engage in a fierce ratings war pitting 92 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:22,813 their Monday night shows against each other, 93 00:04:22,813 --> 00:04:26,233 the rise of WCW is led by it's ambitious 94 00:04:26,233 --> 00:04:28,860 young president, Eric Bischoff. 95 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:31,154 I decided the only way I was gonna be successful 96 00:04:31,154 --> 00:04:32,572 was to be different. 97 00:04:32,572 --> 00:04:36,368 I listed all of the things that made WWE successful, 98 00:04:36,368 --> 00:04:39,662 and I decided to do exactly the opposite of 99 00:04:39,662 --> 00:04:40,871 what they were doing. 100 00:04:40,871 --> 00:04:42,373 I'm Eric Bischoff. 101 00:04:42,373 --> 00:04:45,501 Former president of WCW. 102 00:04:45,501 --> 00:04:48,337 I'm the first one that created a weekly 103 00:04:48,337 --> 00:04:51,257 live television format for professional wrestling. 104 00:04:51,257 --> 00:04:53,884 I looked at the WWE and they were taped and I thought, 105 00:04:53,884 --> 00:04:55,678 you know, wrestling needs to be live. 106 00:04:55,678 --> 00:04:58,180 When it's live the audience has to watch it. 107 00:04:58,180 --> 00:05:00,933 WCW before Nitro was just a really bad 108 00:05:00,933 --> 00:05:03,268 cheap imitation of WWE. 109 00:05:03,268 --> 00:05:06,062 It was just silly, silly, childish stuff. 110 00:05:06,062 --> 00:05:09,315 -The Shock Master! -Alright! 111 00:05:09,315 --> 00:05:11,818 -The Shock Master. -[Laughing] 112 00:05:11,818 --> 00:05:15,196 They were ignoring men 18 to 39. 113 00:05:15,196 --> 00:05:17,657 So, I thought, okay, there's my opportunity. 114 00:05:17,657 --> 00:05:18,658 You know, I began wondering, 115 00:05:18,658 --> 00:05:22,328 how can I transition into more reality based product? 116 00:05:22,328 --> 00:05:24,748 Eric produced a different kind of a television show 117 00:05:24,748 --> 00:05:26,749 than had ever been done before. 118 00:05:26,749 --> 00:05:27,624 He was just ahead of the game and 119 00:05:27,624 --> 00:05:29,251 Vince was behind the times. 120 00:05:29,251 --> 00:05:31,086 Before launching Monday Nitro, 121 00:05:31,086 --> 00:05:33,797 Bischoff aims to legitimize WCW 122 00:05:33,797 --> 00:05:35,632 by head hunting major talent, 123 00:05:35,632 --> 00:05:38,260 poaching Vince McMahon's biggest star 124 00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:40,137 to be the new face of his company. 125 00:05:40,137 --> 00:05:41,430 We're the number two wrestling company 126 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:42,389 in the world. 127 00:05:42,389 --> 00:05:44,725 We're a fraction of the WWE's ratings. 128 00:05:44,725 --> 00:05:48,854 And bringing in Hulk Hogan changed the perception of WCW. 129 00:05:48,854 --> 00:05:50,396 It was a seismic shift. 130 00:05:50,396 --> 00:05:51,856 I mean, I remember Eric telling me, 131 00:05:51,856 --> 00:05:54,567 "Where Hogan goes, goes the money." That was his saying. 132 00:05:54,567 --> 00:05:57,069 And all of a sudden my phone rings one day and 133 00:05:57,069 --> 00:05:59,322 it's my buddy Diamond Dallas Page, and he said, 134 00:05:59,322 --> 00:06:02,533 "Eric." You know, "Scott Hall wants to leave WWE." 135 00:06:02,533 --> 00:06:04,202 He was Razor Ramon then. 136 00:06:04,202 --> 00:06:06,120 So I do the deal with Scott Hall and about a week 137 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,165 after that I get a call from Kevin Nash. 138 00:06:09,165 --> 00:06:11,667 Same thing. Bam! 139 00:06:11,667 --> 00:06:13,377 The lightbulb went off in my head. 140 00:06:13,377 --> 00:06:16,379 There's my storyline. There's my reality. 141 00:06:16,379 --> 00:06:17,881 [Announcer] Here they come! 142 00:06:17,881 --> 00:06:19,716 They've got baseball bats in their hands. 143 00:06:19,716 --> 00:06:21,843 [Eric] The NWO, the New World Order. 144 00:06:21,843 --> 00:06:24,179 -Oh, oh, oh! -What is he doing? 145 00:06:24,179 --> 00:06:25,764 -Oh my God! -Is he the third man? 146 00:06:25,764 --> 00:06:27,057 He's the third man! 147 00:06:27,057 --> 00:06:29,059 What the hell is going on here? 148 00:06:29,059 --> 00:06:32,437 We left WWE in the dust. In the dust. 149 00:06:32,437 --> 00:06:33,730 We weren't just beating them, 150 00:06:33,730 --> 00:06:36,149 we were beating them badly. 151 00:06:36,149 --> 00:06:38,818 But the WWF isn't down for the count, 152 00:06:38,818 --> 00:06:41,570 as fans eventually begin gravitating to a new 153 00:06:41,570 --> 00:06:44,907 generation of superstars, and a radical new approach to 154 00:06:44,907 --> 00:06:48,327 wrestling storylines introduced by a brash 155 00:06:48,327 --> 00:06:51,413 young writer, named Vince Russo. 156 00:06:51,413 --> 00:06:54,667 Writing a wrestling show is not rocket science, 157 00:06:54,667 --> 00:06:57,294 and one of the things I said to Vince when I first 158 00:06:57,294 --> 00:07:00,631 sat down with him, "Vince, that wrestling handbook 159 00:07:00,631 --> 00:07:04,384 gets thrown out the window." And I said, 160 00:07:04,384 --> 00:07:08,888 "Vince, from now on they think we're gonna go left, 161 00:07:08,888 --> 00:07:10,765 we're gonna go right." 162 00:07:10,765 --> 00:07:13,893 Now all of a sudden week to week to week, 163 00:07:13,893 --> 00:07:16,563 they don't know what's going to happen. 164 00:07:16,563 --> 00:07:19,065 The idea of crash TV is 165 00:07:19,065 --> 00:07:22,235 I am writing that TV like the 166 00:07:22,235 --> 00:07:24,404 viewer at home 167 00:07:24,404 --> 00:07:27,739 is sitting there with the remote in his hand, 168 00:07:27,739 --> 00:07:32,661 begging me to give him the opportunity to see 169 00:07:32,661 --> 00:07:34,788 what was going on on the other channel. 170 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:36,081 [Yelling] Look out! 171 00:07:36,081 --> 00:07:40,544 So it would be short match, backstage segment, 172 00:07:40,544 --> 00:07:44,381 vignette, short match, fight in the locker room, 173 00:07:44,381 --> 00:07:47,134 vignette, boom, boom, boom! 174 00:07:47,134 --> 00:07:51,804 And you are not giving that viewer the opportunity to, 175 00:07:51,804 --> 00:07:55,099 "Ah, let's see what's on Nitro." That's crash TV. 176 00:07:55,099 --> 00:07:59,437 Russo's concept of crash TV plays a key part in turning 177 00:07:59,437 --> 00:08:03,608 the tide, and soon the WWF is back on top, 178 00:08:03,608 --> 00:08:06,736 beating WCW every Monday night. 179 00:08:06,736 --> 00:08:09,989 Towards probably the middle of '98, certainly in '99, 180 00:08:09,989 --> 00:08:13,701 that had reversed again. Now WWE was on top. 181 00:08:13,701 --> 00:08:15,827 And that was a magical period. 182 00:08:15,827 --> 00:08:18,038 I don't want to dismiss Vince Russo's, 183 00:08:18,038 --> 00:08:19,122 you know, contributions... 184 00:08:19,122 --> 00:08:21,041 but, they had Stone Cold Steve Austin 185 00:08:21,041 --> 00:08:22,626 and The Rock at the same time. 186 00:08:22,626 --> 00:08:24,169 And that's like, you know, the Yankees with 187 00:08:24,169 --> 00:08:27,047 Babe Ruth and, uh, Lou Gehrig. 188 00:08:27,047 --> 00:08:30,508 WCW, by the end of '99 they started losing money. 189 00:08:30,508 --> 00:08:32,218 They were the Titanic heading to the iceberg. 190 00:08:32,218 --> 00:08:33,595 [Horn blaring] 191 00:08:33,595 --> 00:08:35,889 My budgets were becoming slashed. 192 00:08:35,889 --> 00:08:37,307 -Oh! -Oh! 193 00:08:37,307 --> 00:08:39,184 Eventually I got let go in '99, 194 00:08:39,184 --> 00:08:40,768 because I was fighting that, I was struggling, 195 00:08:40,768 --> 00:08:42,394 I was fighting it. 196 00:08:42,394 --> 00:08:44,396 Turner executives relieved Bischoff of his 197 00:08:44,396 --> 00:08:47,816 creative duties, while rumours emerge that Russo is 198 00:08:47,816 --> 00:08:52,488 overworked and frustrated in his role at the WWF. 199 00:08:52,488 --> 00:08:56,075 Well, WWF added a second show, Smack Down, 200 00:08:56,075 --> 00:08:58,577 and did not give Vince Russo a raise. 201 00:08:58,577 --> 00:09:00,454 So they went from doing one show a week 202 00:09:00,454 --> 00:09:02,498 to two shows a week. 203 00:09:02,498 --> 00:09:05,500 I went into Vince's office, I said, "Vince, 204 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:09,295 I want to be able to move my family closer to my 205 00:09:09,295 --> 00:09:13,466 wife's family, so my wife isn't alone and 206 00:09:13,466 --> 00:09:15,843 she has help raising the kids. 207 00:09:15,843 --> 00:09:20,139 Because Vince, I'm never home." 208 00:09:20,139 --> 00:09:22,850 And he turned around, bro, without missing a beat, 209 00:09:22,850 --> 00:09:25,144 and said, "You make enough money. 210 00:09:25,144 --> 00:09:26,938 You should be able to hire a nanny 211 00:09:26,938 --> 00:09:29,022 to take care of your kids." 212 00:09:29,022 --> 00:09:33,944 You don't tell a proud Italian man who loves 213 00:09:33,944 --> 00:09:37,531 his family to hire a nanny to watch his kids. 214 00:09:37,531 --> 00:09:41,285 Bro, at that moment, it was over. 215 00:09:41,285 --> 00:09:44,913 And they had me up to WCW that weekend. 216 00:09:44,913 --> 00:09:47,708 I was shocked when WCW brought him in. 217 00:09:47,708 --> 00:09:49,251 It was a match made in heaven... 218 00:09:49,251 --> 00:09:52,712 or hell, depending on who you talk to. 219 00:09:52,712 --> 00:09:55,715 I know I'm going into this thing 220 00:09:55,715 --> 00:09:59,010 with a target on my back. 221 00:09:59,010 --> 00:10:01,679 This is the first time 222 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,516 I am going to be working with these veterans 223 00:10:05,516 --> 00:10:09,145 that have been at WCW for a long time. 224 00:10:09,145 --> 00:10:13,316 From day one, Hulk and Eric were like this. 225 00:10:13,316 --> 00:10:16,651 I can actually remember locking eyes with Hulk 226 00:10:16,651 --> 00:10:18,069 for the first time. 227 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:24,743 And what I read from Hulk immediately was mistrust. 228 00:10:24,743 --> 00:10:26,369 Vince Russo was smart enough to know that 229 00:10:26,369 --> 00:10:28,204 you couldn't build around Hulk Hogan anymore 230 00:10:28,204 --> 00:10:29,706 if you wanted a future. 231 00:10:29,706 --> 00:10:32,751 So, yes, I think he was trying to figure out a way to 232 00:10:32,751 --> 00:10:35,003 remove him, because Hulk Hogan had so much power, 233 00:10:35,003 --> 00:10:36,588 because he was Hulk Hogan. 234 00:10:36,588 --> 00:10:39,132 And I've heard the critics ask the question, 235 00:10:39,132 --> 00:10:42,342 "Well, is Hulk Hogan getting older?" Well yeah, 236 00:10:42,342 --> 00:10:44,595 Hulk Hogan's getting older, and so is every other 237 00:10:44,595 --> 00:10:46,263 damn wrestler in the back too. 238 00:10:46,263 --> 00:10:48,432 -Day by day. -[Cheering] 239 00:10:48,432 --> 00:10:50,934 So there was this narrative that Hulk Hogan couldn't 240 00:10:50,934 --> 00:10:53,645 wrestle in the ring anymore, or he had no value, 241 00:10:53,645 --> 00:10:56,065 he should retire, blah blah blah, blah, blah... 242 00:10:56,065 --> 00:10:58,901 where in reality, the business side of the 243 00:10:58,901 --> 00:11:01,278 wrestling business still thought 244 00:11:01,278 --> 00:11:03,322 very highly of Hulk Hogan. 245 00:11:03,322 --> 00:11:07,367 Taking the reins of WCW in October of 1999, 246 00:11:07,367 --> 00:11:10,286 Russo begins reshaping and reimagining the 247 00:11:10,286 --> 00:11:13,581 company's flagship show, Monday Nitro. 248 00:11:13,581 --> 00:11:14,624 Vince Russo believed, you know, 249 00:11:14,624 --> 00:11:17,502 the more extreme and shocking you make it 250 00:11:17,502 --> 00:11:19,045 the more they will like it. 251 00:11:19,045 --> 00:11:21,130 We are just gonna hump you 252 00:11:21,130 --> 00:11:24,634 like the dogs that we are. 253 00:11:24,634 --> 00:11:27,804 Sometimes that's right, but you also run into a thing 254 00:11:27,804 --> 00:11:29,596 where once you've done it, it's... 255 00:11:29,596 --> 00:11:31,348 you desensitize the audience. 256 00:11:31,348 --> 00:11:32,766 And then there's nothing you can do. 257 00:11:32,766 --> 00:11:33,975 [Cheering] Yeah! 258 00:11:38,146 --> 00:11:40,065 I don't know, I didn't watch his shit. 259 00:11:40,065 --> 00:11:41,441 I couldn't watch it. 260 00:11:41,441 --> 00:11:43,235 [Vince] I was there for three months. 261 00:11:43,235 --> 00:11:45,654 The ratings went up in those three months. 262 00:11:48,657 --> 00:11:49,991 Well, he'll tell you they were improving. 263 00:11:49,991 --> 00:11:51,159 But no, they weren't up. 264 00:11:51,159 --> 00:11:53,536 Artificially it looked good, but every month, 265 00:11:53,536 --> 00:11:56,038 if you'd do the month rating, the October, the November, 266 00:11:56,038 --> 00:11:57,164 the December, every month it was down. 267 00:11:57,164 --> 00:11:58,290 Slightly. 268 00:11:58,290 --> 00:12:00,626 [Vince] Next thing I know, management tells me, 269 00:12:00,626 --> 00:12:03,170 "We're going in a different direction." 270 00:12:03,170 --> 00:12:05,548 Then I said, "Okay, fine, just, I'll go home. 271 00:12:05,548 --> 00:12:07,508 Send me my money." 272 00:12:07,508 --> 00:12:10,136 Now that both Bischoff and Russo have failed to turn 273 00:12:10,136 --> 00:12:12,429 WCW's ratings around, 274 00:12:12,429 --> 00:12:14,890 the network lands on a new idea- 275 00:12:14,890 --> 00:12:17,725 both men working together. 276 00:12:17,725 --> 00:12:20,562 Brad Siegel is the head of TNT and TBS. 277 00:12:20,562 --> 00:12:23,523 "Vince, I want you to meet somebody for lunch." 278 00:12:23,523 --> 00:12:27,986 I know immediately he's talking about Eric Bischoff. 279 00:12:27,986 --> 00:12:31,114 And now my job is to oversee Vince Russo. 280 00:12:31,114 --> 00:12:32,740 You know, between Vince and Eric, 281 00:12:32,740 --> 00:12:36,619 I never felt that there was a power struggle. 282 00:12:36,619 --> 00:12:38,163 My name is Jeff Jarrett. 283 00:12:38,163 --> 00:12:40,956 Some call me JJ , some call me The Last Outlaw. 284 00:12:40,956 --> 00:12:43,083 1, 2! New champion! 285 00:12:43,083 --> 00:12:44,626 [Bell ringing] 286 00:12:44,626 --> 00:12:49,756 I just think philosophically those two guys view creating 287 00:12:49,756 --> 00:12:52,801 and producing wrestling content entirely different. 288 00:12:52,801 --> 00:12:54,887 A philosophical difference as opposed to 289 00:12:54,887 --> 00:12:57,097 a personality difference. 290 00:12:57,097 --> 00:12:59,266 Is Lance Storm officially in WCW now? 291 00:12:59,266 --> 00:13:00,475 Yes! 292 00:13:00,475 --> 00:13:03,979 I negotiated my contract with both Vince Russo and Eric, 293 00:13:03,979 --> 00:13:06,689 and I much more preferred dealing with Eric. 294 00:13:06,689 --> 00:13:08,691 Russo was the creative end of it and 295 00:13:08,691 --> 00:13:10,234 he was, um, different. 296 00:13:10,234 --> 00:13:12,403 Vince Russo sat down with, alright well, 297 00:13:12,403 --> 00:13:14,238 he's the guy that's going to be in charge of creative. 298 00:13:14,238 --> 00:13:15,489 He's looking at me and he's like, 299 00:13:15,489 --> 00:13:17,325 "Just off the top of my head, the first thing I think of is, 300 00:13:17,325 --> 00:13:20,953 like, maybe making you Eric's illegitimate son." 301 00:13:20,953 --> 00:13:22,371 And I look at Eric and Eric has the same look 302 00:13:22,371 --> 00:13:24,123 on his face, what the hell? 303 00:13:24,123 --> 00:13:26,209 Like isn't Eric like ten years older than me? 304 00:13:26,209 --> 00:13:29,377 How is he my illegitimate dad? 305 00:13:29,377 --> 00:13:30,921 [Eric] I did go into it with an open mind. 306 00:13:30,921 --> 00:13:32,505 And, initially it was kind of fun, 307 00:13:32,505 --> 00:13:34,466 but it became apparent to me that 308 00:13:34,466 --> 00:13:36,801 Vince Russo is void of any 309 00:13:36,801 --> 00:13:39,012 creative instincts or talents. 310 00:13:39,012 --> 00:13:42,265 [Vince] You could not have put two of 311 00:13:42,265 --> 00:13:45,310 the most opposite people together 312 00:13:45,310 --> 00:13:47,229 and said, "Go." 313 00:13:47,229 --> 00:13:49,147 ♪ 314 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,321 With WCW in trouble, the company's survival 315 00:13:57,321 --> 00:14:00,366 hinges on reversing its downward spiral. 316 00:14:00,366 --> 00:14:03,202 Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo devise a storyline 317 00:14:03,202 --> 00:14:06,497 designed to play off the real life backstage drama, 318 00:14:06,497 --> 00:14:09,625 and the tensions between Bischoff's veterans and 319 00:14:09,625 --> 00:14:12,670 Russo's desire to push younger talent. 320 00:14:12,670 --> 00:14:14,338 There's new sheriffs in town. 321 00:14:14,338 --> 00:14:16,674 The idea of the program was The Millionaire's Club 322 00:14:16,674 --> 00:14:19,008 versus the Young Blood, 323 00:14:19,008 --> 00:14:22,887 where all these young guys that were held down, 324 00:14:22,887 --> 00:14:26,266 now they're going to get an opportunity to shine. 325 00:14:26,266 --> 00:14:28,643 Little bit of a civil war, creatively speaking. 326 00:14:28,643 --> 00:14:30,937 Between young and old, because that's, like, 327 00:14:30,937 --> 00:14:32,605 part of life, right? 328 00:14:32,605 --> 00:14:34,399 Get that damn camera out of here! 329 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:36,901 Bischoff and Russo's storyline fails to 330 00:14:36,901 --> 00:14:40,154 win over fans or improve the ratings. 331 00:14:40,154 --> 00:14:41,905 Hmm... man. 332 00:14:41,905 --> 00:14:44,032 That whole year of 2000 has kind of like blanked out of 333 00:14:44,032 --> 00:14:46,076 my mind because it was so bad. 334 00:14:46,076 --> 00:14:48,287 [Cheering] Oh! Good God! 335 00:14:48,287 --> 00:14:52,833 It was destined for failure from the beginning. 336 00:14:52,833 --> 00:14:55,586 Vince Russo, I was done with him creatively because 337 00:14:55,586 --> 00:14:57,879 I knew he was a bullshitter. 338 00:14:57,879 --> 00:14:59,840 Eric wanted to be in charge. 339 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,009 So I call Brad Siegal and I say, 340 00:15:02,009 --> 00:15:06,345 "Bro, put Eric in charge of the show." 341 00:15:06,345 --> 00:15:09,640 Brad Siegal said to me, "No, no, no, no, no, Vince, 342 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,475 we want you to write the show." 343 00:15:11,475 --> 00:15:12,977 Okay, fine. 344 00:15:12,977 --> 00:15:15,813 The next time I see Eric Bischoff... 345 00:15:15,813 --> 00:15:18,316 Bash at the Beach. 346 00:15:18,316 --> 00:15:20,484 In the week leading up to the pay per view event, 347 00:15:20,484 --> 00:15:23,696 Russo prepares the show with a focus on 348 00:15:23,696 --> 00:15:26,616 who will emerge the next World Champion. 349 00:15:26,616 --> 00:15:30,285 That week I walked into our creative meeting and I threw 350 00:15:30,285 --> 00:15:32,662 a question out there at the very beginning of the 351 00:15:32,662 --> 00:15:34,706 meeting, and the question was, 352 00:15:34,706 --> 00:15:38,710 "If you could put the WCW title on anyone in the 353 00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:41,254 company right now, who would it be?" 354 00:15:41,254 --> 00:15:43,423 And I went around the table. 355 00:15:43,423 --> 00:15:45,550 "Booker T, Booker T, Booker T." 356 00:15:45,550 --> 00:15:49,512 And unanimously everybody said Booker T. 357 00:15:49,512 --> 00:15:52,307 I said, "Well, then that's what we're gonna do." 358 00:15:52,307 --> 00:15:53,475 [Cheering] 359 00:15:53,475 --> 00:15:56,518 I had had the belt at this time, uh, a couple of months. 360 00:15:56,518 --> 00:16:00,606 And so my overarching creative was for 361 00:16:00,606 --> 00:16:02,149 "The Chosen One" Jeff Jarrett 362 00:16:02,149 --> 00:16:05,402 to face multiple legends and be victorious, 363 00:16:05,402 --> 00:16:08,947 until it was time to switch the title to Booker T. 364 00:16:08,947 --> 00:16:10,240 I'm gonna tell you like this here, 365 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,160 we gon' turn this mother out! 366 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,787 Now can you dig it? 367 00:16:14,787 --> 00:16:17,081 A lot of significance, a lot of upside, 368 00:16:17,081 --> 00:16:19,791 and I saw Vince Russo's vision and bought into it. 369 00:16:19,791 --> 00:16:23,628 So, the main event of the evening was Jeff Jarrett 370 00:16:23,628 --> 00:16:27,006 versus Booker T for the WCW title 371 00:16:27,006 --> 00:16:29,050 with Booker T going over. 372 00:16:29,050 --> 00:16:32,178 He's one of those guys where you knew he was really good. 373 00:16:32,178 --> 00:16:35,681 Wrestling had not been kind to African American wrestlers. 374 00:16:35,681 --> 00:16:37,809 Give somebody else a chance, at least it's something new. 375 00:16:37,809 --> 00:16:39,769 To add more intrigue to the event, 376 00:16:39,769 --> 00:16:42,104 Russo makes the decision to give Jeff Jarrett 377 00:16:42,104 --> 00:16:45,524 one last win before losing the belt to Booker T. 378 00:16:45,524 --> 00:16:48,276 A win over Hollywood Hulk Hogan. 379 00:16:48,276 --> 00:16:52,030 When I wrote the very first version of the show, 380 00:16:52,030 --> 00:16:54,616 it was Jarrett against Hogan, 381 00:16:54,616 --> 00:16:58,370 and I wrote Hulk Hogan very strong. 382 00:16:58,370 --> 00:17:02,666 However, he was not going to win the WCW title. 383 00:17:02,666 --> 00:17:04,000 Why? 384 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,752 Because you just had an entire room 385 00:17:06,752 --> 00:17:08,879 agree on Booker T. 386 00:17:08,879 --> 00:17:11,173 Vince Russo had his idea, what he wanted to do 387 00:17:11,173 --> 00:17:12,717 at Bash at the Beach. 388 00:17:12,717 --> 00:17:15,719 Hulk Hogan and I were on a completely different page. 389 00:17:15,719 --> 00:17:19,223 What Vince Russo wanted to do didn't freakin' matter. 390 00:17:19,223 --> 00:17:23,936 Hulk Hogan had 100% creative control over his storyline 391 00:17:23,936 --> 00:17:27,815 and how his character was presented on television. 392 00:17:27,815 --> 00:17:31,985 Back in 1994, Bischoff had lured Hogan to WCW 393 00:17:31,985 --> 00:17:34,863 by offering him one of the most generous contracts 394 00:17:34,863 --> 00:17:36,614 in wrestling history. 395 00:17:36,614 --> 00:17:37,740 I think the technical wording was 396 00:17:37,740 --> 00:17:39,242 he had control of his finishes. 397 00:17:39,242 --> 00:17:40,160 It was like, if he didn't want to lose, 398 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,411 he didn't have to lose. 399 00:17:41,411 --> 00:17:43,955 It's easy to sit here and say, "Unprecedented", 400 00:17:43,955 --> 00:17:47,083 but to that date, someone with no ownership, 401 00:17:47,083 --> 00:17:49,878 but to have complete creative control, 402 00:17:49,878 --> 00:17:51,838 that is a conflict of interest. 403 00:17:51,838 --> 00:17:53,590 When a talent has creative control, 404 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:55,966 it sort of comes down to the simplicity. 405 00:17:55,966 --> 00:17:57,634 Are they worried about their bottom line? 406 00:17:57,634 --> 00:17:59,678 Or are they worried about the company's bottom line? 407 00:17:59,678 --> 00:18:02,055 It's radically different. 408 00:18:02,055 --> 00:18:04,475 So I wrote the first script where Hulk Hogan looks 409 00:18:04,475 --> 00:18:08,437 very strong, but he does not win the WCW title. 410 00:18:08,437 --> 00:18:11,690 Hulk Hogan poo poo'd that first script. 411 00:18:11,690 --> 00:18:15,527 So now I re-write the script, and I really make 412 00:18:15,527 --> 00:18:18,654 Hulk Hogan look like King Kong. 413 00:18:18,654 --> 00:18:22,074 Not only does he wind up killing Jeff Jarrett, 414 00:18:22,074 --> 00:18:25,620 he winds up killing Scott Steiner. 415 00:18:25,620 --> 00:18:28,790 He literally winds up wiping everybody, 416 00:18:28,790 --> 00:18:31,876 but he does not leave with the title. 417 00:18:31,876 --> 00:18:35,588 Hulk says he's good with the second version. 418 00:18:35,588 --> 00:18:40,635 So now I walk into Bash at the Beach that Sunday 419 00:18:40,635 --> 00:18:44,179 thinking everything's fine, and Hulk is gonna do 420 00:18:44,179 --> 00:18:46,097 what the second script says. 421 00:18:46,097 --> 00:18:48,016 ♪ 422 00:18:48,016 --> 00:18:50,477 Eric Bischoff comes up to me and says, 423 00:18:50,477 --> 00:18:54,022 "You better go in the trailer and talk to Hulk Hogan 424 00:18:54,022 --> 00:18:57,734 because he's not gonna do this." Who's in the trailer? 425 00:18:57,734 --> 00:19:01,446 Me, Hulk Hogan, and Eric Bischoff. 426 00:19:01,446 --> 00:19:04,449 So if you wanna break that down, 427 00:19:04,449 --> 00:19:07,535 it is clearly two against one. 428 00:19:07,535 --> 00:19:10,371 Did Vince Russo and I discuss it several times? 429 00:19:10,371 --> 00:19:11,914 Yes, we did. 430 00:19:11,914 --> 00:19:13,624 It was my job to oversee him. 431 00:19:13,624 --> 00:19:15,376 It was my call, not Vince Russo's call. 432 00:19:15,376 --> 00:19:17,253 He didn't get to vote. 433 00:19:17,253 --> 00:19:19,129 He thought he did, but he didn't. 434 00:19:19,129 --> 00:19:24,385 Eric informs me that they came up with a scenario, 435 00:19:24,385 --> 00:19:28,931 and that scenario is Hulk winning the title. 436 00:19:28,931 --> 00:19:32,141 He wants to win the WCW title. 437 00:19:32,141 --> 00:19:34,811 Eric's idea is to blur the line between reality and 438 00:19:34,811 --> 00:19:37,397 fiction, with a story angle where Hulk flexes 439 00:19:37,397 --> 00:19:40,483 his creative control clause to win the belt. 440 00:19:40,483 --> 00:19:43,653 As Jeff Jarrett throws the match in disgust, 441 00:19:43,653 --> 00:19:46,948 Hulk, angry at Jarrett's refusal to fight, 442 00:19:46,948 --> 00:19:50,201 is then scripted to storm out of the ring. 443 00:19:50,201 --> 00:19:54,539 The idea was for Hulk to leave in a state of 444 00:19:54,539 --> 00:19:57,165 frustration and anger as a result of the 445 00:19:57,165 --> 00:19:58,792 finish of the match. 446 00:19:58,792 --> 00:20:02,546 The important element of it was that once the WCW 447 00:20:02,546 --> 00:20:05,299 realized that Hulk Hogan wasn't coming back and 448 00:20:05,299 --> 00:20:07,134 he wasn't giving the belt back, 449 00:20:07,134 --> 00:20:12,014 that would force WCW to then vacate that title, 450 00:20:12,014 --> 00:20:14,516 and create a tournament for a new 451 00:20:14,516 --> 00:20:16,560 World Heavyweight Champion. 452 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,812 And finally at Halloween Havoc, 453 00:20:18,812 --> 00:20:20,897 which was our big October pay per view, 454 00:20:20,897 --> 00:20:23,441 the two finalists in that tournament, 455 00:20:23,441 --> 00:20:25,651 before it physically took place, 456 00:20:25,651 --> 00:20:28,404 Hogan was gonna make a surprise appearance 457 00:20:28,404 --> 00:20:33,409 and say, "Ah-ah-ah, I still have the belt, 458 00:20:33,409 --> 00:20:35,369 and if you want this you've gotta beat me." 459 00:20:35,369 --> 00:20:38,080 Boom. There's your story. 460 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,498 [Vince] I was pissed. 461 00:20:39,498 --> 00:20:42,209 Bro, you're pulling this bullshit the day of a show. 462 00:20:42,209 --> 00:20:44,461 I re-wrote the show twice. 463 00:20:44,461 --> 00:20:46,546 This show is starting in an hour. 464 00:20:46,546 --> 00:20:49,758 It got to the point where I said, "Look, 465 00:20:49,758 --> 00:20:51,843 we're gonna get on the phone with Brad Siegel and 466 00:20:51,843 --> 00:20:54,054 we're gonna lay it out, and we'll let Brad choose." 467 00:20:54,054 --> 00:20:57,265 And Brad said, "Go with Eric's idea." That's it. 468 00:20:57,265 --> 00:20:58,725 Now you've got the president of the network 469 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:00,560 who's the tie breaker. 470 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,187 It was over and done. 471 00:21:02,187 --> 00:21:03,813 [Vince] Eric wanted to be in charge. 472 00:21:03,813 --> 00:21:06,733 He wanted things to go back to the way they were. 473 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:09,944 Bro, I'm not an idiot. 474 00:21:09,944 --> 00:21:13,197 So, Hulk lays out this elaborate story, 475 00:21:13,197 --> 00:21:15,824 and I know the story ends with him winning the title. 476 00:21:15,824 --> 00:21:21,163 While he's laying out the story, this ear is listening, 477 00:21:21,163 --> 00:21:23,874 this side of my brain is 478 00:21:23,874 --> 00:21:26,752 figuring out another story. 479 00:21:26,752 --> 00:21:28,087 Because he's, I'm not, 480 00:21:28,087 --> 00:21:31,548 he's not walking out with the title. 481 00:21:31,548 --> 00:21:33,633 [Jeff] Pay per view show time starts at 8 o'clock. 482 00:21:33,633 --> 00:21:35,802 7, 7:30, somewhere in that window. 483 00:21:35,802 --> 00:21:38,763 Vince comes to me and says, "Bro"- In his great 484 00:21:38,763 --> 00:21:41,349 New Yorker accent- "This is what we're doin'." 485 00:21:41,349 --> 00:21:44,352 "Jeff, Hulk doesn't want to do the job for you. 486 00:21:44,352 --> 00:21:47,230 'F' Hulk. Lay down for him. 487 00:21:47,230 --> 00:21:49,482 Let him leave with his freaking belt.' 488 00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:51,901 We wanted everybody to believe it. 489 00:21:51,901 --> 00:21:53,736 Jeff was not in on it. 490 00:21:53,736 --> 00:21:58,907 We wanted everybody in the back to believe this, 491 00:21:58,907 --> 00:22:00,617 that was the goal. 492 00:22:00,617 --> 00:22:03,662 Vince was pretty clear, "Go to the ring, 493 00:22:03,662 --> 00:22:05,956 we'll get the bell to start the match. 494 00:22:05,956 --> 00:22:08,875 Just make it very clear you're taking a dive. 495 00:22:08,875 --> 00:22:13,171 You're laying down for him." And I was dumbfounded. 496 00:22:13,171 --> 00:22:16,591 And I said, "Vince, this story is not well thought out. 497 00:22:16,591 --> 00:22:20,845 It doesn't make any logical sense and- 498 00:22:20,845 --> 00:22:23,764 for a babyface to capture gold this way." 499 00:22:23,764 --> 00:22:27,518 There's a real bad taste that if a champion 500 00:22:27,518 --> 00:22:28,686 is gonna be a champion, 501 00:22:28,686 --> 00:22:30,604 don't you really wanna beat somebody? 502 00:22:30,604 --> 00:22:32,898 And this was the opposite of that. 503 00:22:32,898 --> 00:22:35,109 And there's a million other options, I felt, 504 00:22:35,109 --> 00:22:37,820 that the audience would say, "This is the best you guys 505 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:41,615 could come up with?" I told Vince this. 506 00:22:41,615 --> 00:22:45,076 Everybody loses in this scenario, everybody loses. 507 00:22:45,076 --> 00:22:47,370 ♪ 508 00:22:52,208 --> 00:22:54,544 As Bash at the Beach 2000 begins, 509 00:22:54,544 --> 00:22:57,630 a storyline is in place for current WCW champion 510 00:22:57,630 --> 00:23:00,884 Jeff Jarrett to take a dive for Hulk Hogan. 511 00:23:00,884 --> 00:23:02,969 Everyone is ready to put the plan in motion, 512 00:23:02,969 --> 00:23:06,514 until Jarrett begins having second thoughts. 513 00:23:06,514 --> 00:23:08,141 When it came down to match time, 514 00:23:08,141 --> 00:23:13,604 I had a real overwhelming sense of, 515 00:23:13,604 --> 00:23:15,481 "Do I really wanna do this? 516 00:23:15,481 --> 00:23:19,193 Do I really wanna be a part of this mess? 517 00:23:19,193 --> 00:23:23,030 Do I really wanna walk the aisle and 518 00:23:23,030 --> 00:23:25,449 be a part of this finish?" 519 00:23:25,449 --> 00:23:27,701 Those thoughts went through my mind. 520 00:23:27,701 --> 00:23:31,622 Because my father, my grandmother, 521 00:23:31,622 --> 00:23:34,832 my outlook on the industry, that you really only have 522 00:23:34,832 --> 00:23:36,542 one boss and that's the fans. 523 00:23:36,542 --> 00:23:37,835 [Cheering] 524 00:23:37,835 --> 00:23:39,879 Ladies and gentlemen, 525 00:23:39,879 --> 00:23:42,799 welcome to the year 2000 526 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:46,803 WCW Bash at the Beach, 527 00:23:46,803 --> 00:23:50,640 and the main event of the evening... 528 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,392 When they hit my music, I stayed in the back. 529 00:23:53,392 --> 00:23:54,685 Where's Jarrett? I mean, 530 00:23:54,685 --> 00:23:56,437 his music has been playing for well over a minute, 531 00:23:56,437 --> 00:23:58,939 there's no sign of him. What's going on here? 532 00:23:58,939 --> 00:24:00,690 This is not like The Chosen One 533 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:03,860 to stand us up on a pay per view. 534 00:24:03,860 --> 00:24:05,987 So my music played quite a while, 535 00:24:05,987 --> 00:24:09,074 I think it looped two or three times. 536 00:24:09,074 --> 00:24:11,201 And I stayed over in the little tunnel and 537 00:24:11,201 --> 00:24:12,953 really just thought through it. 538 00:24:12,953 --> 00:24:16,164 I could take matters into my own hands and say, 539 00:24:16,164 --> 00:24:19,376 "I'm not doing the dive." I could, you know, 540 00:24:19,376 --> 00:24:22,545 jump in and make him punch me around, 541 00:24:22,545 --> 00:24:25,047 and make him give me a big boot. 542 00:24:25,047 --> 00:24:26,966 What are my real options? 543 00:24:26,966 --> 00:24:30,594 What is gonna protect my family and my career best? 544 00:24:30,594 --> 00:24:33,180 So much at stake here. 545 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:36,016 I can't say that I was legitimately angry. 546 00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:38,936 I can say, thoroughly disgusted. 547 00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:42,189 And when I finally said, "Let's get this over with," 548 00:24:42,189 --> 00:24:44,358 that was where my head was at. 549 00:24:44,358 --> 00:24:47,235 -Here he is. -[Cheering] 550 00:24:47,235 --> 00:24:49,946 By the time I headed down the aisle way, 551 00:24:49,946 --> 00:24:52,115 everything in my mind was, "Hogan, 552 00:24:52,115 --> 00:24:56,411 you want your creative control so bad, take it." 553 00:24:56,411 --> 00:24:58,746 You know somethin', Jeff Jarrett? 554 00:24:58,746 --> 00:25:01,583 You are The Chosen One, 555 00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:04,252 because I have chosen you to 556 00:25:04,252 --> 00:25:06,838 power bomb your ass through this mat, 557 00:25:06,838 --> 00:25:10,424 so come on down and get your ass kicked, Jarrett. 558 00:25:10,424 --> 00:25:14,803 Looking across the ring, and looking at Hulk, 559 00:25:14,803 --> 00:25:18,515 and knowing that he orchestrated all of this... 560 00:25:18,515 --> 00:25:21,351 I never, ever looked at him the same way. 561 00:25:21,351 --> 00:25:26,189 [Cheering] 562 00:25:26,189 --> 00:25:28,775 What's Jeff doing? What's Jeff doing? 563 00:25:28,775 --> 00:25:31,904 [Fans cheering & shouting] 564 00:25:31,904 --> 00:25:33,988 Russo's talking to him, what's he saying? 565 00:25:33,988 --> 00:25:38,993 Russo I think told Jarrett to lay down, what is going on? 566 00:25:38,993 --> 00:25:41,621 Look it, Russo is holding the belt up like, 567 00:25:41,621 --> 00:25:43,873 "Do you want the belt?" Pin the man, Jarrett's down! 568 00:25:43,873 --> 00:25:45,666 I don't, and Hogan is as shocked as we are. 569 00:25:45,666 --> 00:25:47,710 What in the world? Jeff Jarrett! 570 00:25:51,130 --> 00:25:52,506 There's confusion. 571 00:25:52,506 --> 00:25:55,676 Like, they really don't know what's going on. 572 00:25:55,676 --> 00:25:58,720 The essence of professional wrestling through the 573 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,099 generations has been the ability to blur the lines 574 00:26:03,099 --> 00:26:06,102 between what's not fiction and what's fiction. 575 00:26:06,102 --> 00:26:08,188 But the old promoter adage, 576 00:26:08,188 --> 00:26:09,940 "You confuse them, you lose them." 577 00:26:09,940 --> 00:26:13,151 We confused 'em, and we lost 'em. 578 00:26:13,151 --> 00:26:14,653 This can't be Jeff Jarrett, 579 00:26:14,653 --> 00:26:16,905 a man that grew up in this sport! 580 00:26:16,905 --> 00:26:19,115 Is there- what is going on? 581 00:26:19,115 --> 00:26:21,867 He just threw the world title to Hogan. 582 00:26:21,867 --> 00:26:23,911 What the hell? Now Russo. 583 00:26:23,911 --> 00:26:25,329 I'll be honest with ya. 584 00:26:25,329 --> 00:26:30,042 All I wanna make sure is this plan carries out the 585 00:26:30,042 --> 00:26:34,338 exact same way I laid it out in the trailer. 586 00:26:34,338 --> 00:26:36,840 Jeff laid down, Hulk Hogan, 587 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,801 you're going home with your belt. 588 00:26:38,801 --> 00:26:42,346 This is all part of the story. 589 00:26:42,346 --> 00:26:44,223 Is this your deal, Russo? 590 00:26:44,223 --> 00:26:45,848 [Commentary] Wow... 591 00:26:45,848 --> 00:26:47,976 That's why this company is in the damn shape it's in 592 00:26:47,976 --> 00:26:49,978 because of bullshit like this. 593 00:26:49,978 --> 00:26:52,397 [Cheering] 594 00:26:52,397 --> 00:26:54,440 Referee counted 1,2,3. 595 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,151 And I rolled out to the ring and went straight to the back. 596 00:26:57,151 --> 00:26:59,612 [Cheering] 597 00:26:59,612 --> 00:27:02,657 My God, this is real life. 1,2,3. 598 00:27:02,657 --> 00:27:04,951 [Bell Tolling] 599 00:27:04,951 --> 00:27:06,828 Ladies and gentlemen, that is not something 600 00:27:06,828 --> 00:27:09,830 they go over with us at the production meeting. 601 00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:12,582 No, there are swerves and there are swerves. 602 00:27:12,582 --> 00:27:15,002 We've all been swerved. 603 00:27:15,002 --> 00:27:17,421 And we went forward exactly the way Hulk 604 00:27:17,421 --> 00:27:18,714 wanted to go forward. 605 00:27:18,714 --> 00:27:21,883 The audience believed that Hulk Hogan was pissed, 606 00:27:21,883 --> 00:27:24,386 and he took the belt and he left the building. 607 00:27:24,386 --> 00:27:26,138 It went according to plan. 608 00:27:26,138 --> 00:27:28,390 We jump in the limo, 609 00:27:28,390 --> 00:27:31,101 we leave the arena with the belt, 610 00:27:31,101 --> 00:27:34,145 we go to the airport. 611 00:27:34,145 --> 00:27:35,646 We're on the plane, 612 00:27:35,646 --> 00:27:39,483 we're high five-ing, cracking a beer, laughing. 613 00:27:39,483 --> 00:27:41,444 Everything went the way we wanted it to go. 614 00:27:41,444 --> 00:27:43,529 As Bischoff and Hogan leave the arena 615 00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:45,197 the show continues, 616 00:27:45,197 --> 00:27:48,034 but what happens next will be debated by wrestling fans and 617 00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:51,996 insiders for decades to come, as Vince Russo 618 00:27:51,996 --> 00:27:54,331 takes matters into his own hands. 619 00:27:54,331 --> 00:27:55,791 Well, here's Mr. Russo now. 620 00:27:55,791 --> 00:27:57,293 What the hell is next? 621 00:27:57,293 --> 00:27:59,794 30 minutes later the plane lands, 622 00:27:59,794 --> 00:28:02,922 and all of a sudden Hogan's phone is blowing up. 623 00:28:02,922 --> 00:28:06,426 ♪ 624 00:28:06,426 --> 00:28:08,178 And so is mine. 625 00:28:08,178 --> 00:28:09,137 Russo went out and 626 00:28:09,137 --> 00:28:13,683 cut this scathing promo and buried Hulk. 627 00:28:13,683 --> 00:28:16,019 This was like their big, great swerve, 628 00:28:16,019 --> 00:28:19,481 that somehow turned real when Russo does the promo 629 00:28:19,481 --> 00:28:21,983 later and things end up getting worse. 630 00:28:21,983 --> 00:28:23,901 There's only one way for me to do this and 631 00:28:23,901 --> 00:28:26,779 that's for me to tell it like it is. 632 00:28:26,779 --> 00:28:28,072 You know, bro, again, 633 00:28:28,072 --> 00:28:30,532 these are the things people hate me for. 634 00:28:30,532 --> 00:28:32,868 ♪ 635 00:28:38,290 --> 00:28:40,834 As agreed upon before the show even started, 636 00:28:40,834 --> 00:28:42,795 after Jeff Jarrett takes a dive, 637 00:28:42,795 --> 00:28:45,339 Hulk leaves the building with the belt, 638 00:28:45,339 --> 00:28:48,841 enraging and confusing the WCW audience. 639 00:28:48,841 --> 00:28:51,552 Now, to the surprise of everyone, 640 00:28:51,552 --> 00:28:54,263 Vince Russo makes his way out to the ring. 641 00:28:54,263 --> 00:28:55,765 Well, here's Mr. Russo now. 642 00:28:55,765 --> 00:28:57,850 -What the hell is next? -Now what? 643 00:28:57,850 --> 00:28:59,102 I don't know. 644 00:28:59,102 --> 00:29:03,272 Maybe Russo can explain to the world what we have seen. 645 00:29:03,272 --> 00:29:07,110 My entire life, every promo I've ever cut... 646 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:09,403 There's only one way for me to do this and 647 00:29:09,403 --> 00:29:12,239 that's for me to tell it like it is. 648 00:29:12,239 --> 00:29:15,075 I don't know what I'm going to say. 649 00:29:15,075 --> 00:29:18,078 I am in the moment. 650 00:29:18,078 --> 00:29:21,456 That's real, and that's what people believe. 651 00:29:21,456 --> 00:29:23,041 Here's where the story is. 652 00:29:23,041 --> 00:29:25,127 Here's where my character is. 653 00:29:25,127 --> 00:29:26,253 Go. 654 00:29:26,253 --> 00:29:29,047 Let me tell you people what happened out here 655 00:29:29,047 --> 00:29:30,715 in this ring tonight. 656 00:29:30,715 --> 00:29:34,344 All day long I'm playing politics with Hulk Hogan, 657 00:29:34,344 --> 00:29:36,887 because Hulk Hogan, tonight, 658 00:29:36,887 --> 00:29:42,268 wants to play his creative control card. 659 00:29:42,268 --> 00:29:46,897 And to Hulk Hogan that meant that tonight 660 00:29:46,897 --> 00:29:51,193 in the middle of this ring, when he knew it was bullshit, 661 00:29:51,193 --> 00:29:53,612 he beats Jeff Jarrett. 662 00:29:53,612 --> 00:29:55,322 Because of Russo's crazy booking style 663 00:29:55,322 --> 00:29:57,408 we're all like, "Is this the plan? 664 00:29:57,408 --> 00:29:58,783 Are they working us? 665 00:29:58,783 --> 00:30:00,743 If this was the plan, it's stupid, 666 00:30:00,743 --> 00:30:02,662 and if it's not the plan, it's even stupider." 667 00:30:02,662 --> 00:30:03,580 We're all just sitting there going, 668 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:05,456 "What the hell is going on?" 669 00:30:05,456 --> 00:30:08,126 And let me tell you who doesn't give a shit about 670 00:30:08,126 --> 00:30:13,131 this company, that goddamn politician Hulk Hogan. 671 00:30:13,131 --> 00:30:16,426 Hogan got his belt and he went the hell home, 672 00:30:16,426 --> 00:30:19,888 and I promise everybody or else I'll go in the goddamn 673 00:30:19,888 --> 00:30:24,474 grave, you will never see that piece of shit again. 674 00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:26,226 Adding to the confusion of the moment, 675 00:30:26,226 --> 00:30:30,230 Russo shocks the crowd by announcing a new main event. 676 00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:34,568 Hulk Hogan now has the WCW belt. 677 00:30:34,568 --> 00:30:37,196 That belt don't mean shit! 678 00:30:37,196 --> 00:30:41,158 Jeff Jarrett is still the official WCW champion and 679 00:30:41,158 --> 00:30:45,370 he will defend that title tonight in this ring 680 00:30:45,370 --> 00:30:48,080 against Booker T, 681 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,918 who for 14 years has been busting his ass 682 00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:55,171 in WCW and can't get a goddamn break, 683 00:30:55,171 --> 00:30:57,298 because of the Hulk Hogan. 684 00:30:57,298 --> 00:31:00,343 There were real emotions 685 00:31:00,343 --> 00:31:03,763 being fuelled during that promo 686 00:31:03,763 --> 00:31:06,599 because I had it up to here with the wrestling shit. 687 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:07,892 I really did, bro. 688 00:31:07,892 --> 00:31:10,061 I was over and I was done with it. 689 00:31:10,061 --> 00:31:12,437 [Cheering] 690 00:31:12,437 --> 00:31:15,315 And Hogan, you big bald son of a bitch, 691 00:31:15,315 --> 00:31:17,359 kiss my ass. 692 00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:20,111 [Cheering] 693 00:31:20,111 --> 00:31:22,280 ♪ 694 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,907 That was... that was not on the formats, 695 00:31:23,907 --> 00:31:25,617 that was not in the production meeting, 696 00:31:25,617 --> 00:31:27,911 that was nowhere to be found anywhere until this. 697 00:31:27,911 --> 00:31:30,872 We do have Booker T now against Jeff Jarrett 698 00:31:30,872 --> 00:31:32,791 for the WCW title. 699 00:31:32,791 --> 00:31:36,001 That was just booked, that's added to tonight. 700 00:31:36,001 --> 00:31:39,713 My plan for the main event, Booker T beats Jeff Jarrett 701 00:31:39,713 --> 00:31:42,508 and becomes the WCW World Heavyweight Champion. 702 00:31:42,508 --> 00:31:44,093 Booker doesn't see Jarrett. 703 00:31:44,093 --> 00:31:47,429 [Shouting & cheering] 704 00:31:47,429 --> 00:31:50,140 So, Hogan, congratulations enjoy the title, 705 00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:51,267 that's the fake title. 706 00:31:51,267 --> 00:31:53,352 The real title is gonna be represented 707 00:31:53,352 --> 00:31:55,020 in the match with Jarrett. 708 00:31:55,020 --> 00:31:56,438 Booker goes over. 709 00:31:56,438 --> 00:31:58,816 We've got a new champion! Oh my God! 710 00:31:58,816 --> 00:32:01,567 Booker T is the world champion! 711 00:32:01,567 --> 00:32:03,278 Booker T is the champ! 712 00:32:03,278 --> 00:32:08,825 Oh my God, bro, I knew Hulk was going to be pissed. 713 00:32:08,825 --> 00:32:13,913 Everybody is believing this 1000%, 714 00:32:13,913 --> 00:32:16,374 and all I'm reading is, 715 00:32:16,374 --> 00:32:19,711 "Vince Russo finally put Hulk Hogan in his place. 716 00:32:19,711 --> 00:32:22,630 Vince Russo finally told Hulk Hogan 717 00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:25,090 what should have been said to him years ago." 718 00:32:25,090 --> 00:32:27,342 I'm reading this and I'm saying, 719 00:32:27,342 --> 00:32:29,928 "He is going to have 720 00:32:29,928 --> 00:32:34,141 a severe problem with it." 721 00:32:34,141 --> 00:32:38,103 [Eric] When Hulk gets really, really angry... 722 00:32:38,103 --> 00:32:40,397 he gets very quiet. 723 00:32:40,397 --> 00:32:42,232 Like, when he stops talking, 724 00:32:42,232 --> 00:32:44,735 that's when you need to start worrying. 725 00:32:44,735 --> 00:32:49,155 And he got real quiet after that, like, real quiet. 726 00:32:49,155 --> 00:32:51,949 Russo claims he pitched this entire storyline to Hulk and 727 00:32:51,949 --> 00:32:55,411 Eric in the trailer, and that they agreed. 728 00:32:55,411 --> 00:32:59,332 Every single thing on that show was 729 00:32:59,332 --> 00:33:02,084 what was discussed in that trailer. 730 00:33:02,084 --> 00:33:03,294 Everything. 731 00:33:03,294 --> 00:33:05,838 From Jarrett laying down, to them leaving, 732 00:33:05,838 --> 00:33:07,923 to me cutting the promo, 733 00:33:07,923 --> 00:33:10,634 to Booker T winning the title at the end. 734 00:33:10,634 --> 00:33:14,220 It was exactly the way I laid it out to 735 00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:15,680 Hogan in the trailer. 736 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,599 That was never my plan. 737 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,518 I guarantee you it wasn't Hulk Hogan's plan. 738 00:33:20,518 --> 00:33:23,480 And, by the way, Hulk Hogan had creative control, 739 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,441 and we certainly didn't know that Booker T was gonna 740 00:33:26,441 --> 00:33:28,902 walk out as the world champion. 741 00:33:28,902 --> 00:33:31,571 Because Hulk Hogan had that world title and was going to 742 00:33:31,571 --> 00:33:34,366 bring it back in October at Halloween Havoc. 743 00:33:34,366 --> 00:33:35,824 That was the plan. 744 00:33:35,824 --> 00:33:38,327 Oh my God, that was part of the plan! 745 00:33:38,327 --> 00:33:40,663 This is a key point. 746 00:33:40,663 --> 00:33:45,751 The reason you have to leave the building is because 747 00:33:45,751 --> 00:33:48,754 if I go out there and cut a scathing promo on you, 748 00:33:48,754 --> 00:33:50,422 and you're still in the building, 749 00:33:50,422 --> 00:33:52,049 you're gonna have to come kill me. 750 00:33:52,049 --> 00:33:53,175 Russo may believe it, 751 00:33:53,175 --> 00:33:54,593 but that's where the pathological part of 752 00:33:54,593 --> 00:33:56,845 being a pathological liar comes in. 753 00:33:56,845 --> 00:33:59,807 None of that was discussed in advance. 754 00:33:59,807 --> 00:34:02,058 None of that was approved by me. 755 00:34:02,058 --> 00:34:04,477 None of it was approved by Hulk Hogan. 756 00:34:04,477 --> 00:34:07,021 It was just the most unprofessional thing that 757 00:34:07,021 --> 00:34:10,817 I'd ever seen in 30 years of television. 758 00:34:10,817 --> 00:34:13,986 The next morning an incensed Hogan calls in to a 759 00:34:13,986 --> 00:34:17,323 local Tampa radio show to rage at Russo. 760 00:34:17,323 --> 00:34:20,451 His anger isn't for show, it's for real. 761 00:34:48,228 --> 00:34:49,478 Ha! 762 00:34:49,478 --> 00:34:52,440 Did I know that Hulk Hogan was gonna take legal action? 763 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,025 How could you not? How could you not? 764 00:34:55,025 --> 00:34:57,862 ♪ 765 00:35:01,949 --> 00:35:04,702 Infuriated by the events at Bash of the Beach, 766 00:35:04,702 --> 00:35:09,206 Hulk Hogan takes legal action against Vince Russo and WCW. 767 00:35:09,206 --> 00:35:13,001 Because Hulk Hogan tonight wants to play 768 00:35:13,001 --> 00:35:16,171 his creative control card. 769 00:35:16,171 --> 00:35:18,506 Hogan files lawsuits for defamation and 770 00:35:18,506 --> 00:35:20,800 breach of contract, asserting that 771 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,178 Russo's off-script tirade was a part of 772 00:35:23,178 --> 00:35:24,929 the match outcome, 773 00:35:24,929 --> 00:35:27,932 and violated his creative control clause. 774 00:35:27,932 --> 00:35:30,226 I believe Hogan felt double crossed, 775 00:35:30,226 --> 00:35:33,188 and whether Russo actually double crossed him, 776 00:35:33,188 --> 00:35:34,689 or he just got carried away and said shit 777 00:35:34,689 --> 00:35:36,274 he shouldn't have, I have no idea. 778 00:35:36,274 --> 00:35:40,277 But it's like, okay, you don't file lawsuits 779 00:35:40,277 --> 00:35:42,613 if this is just part of a storyline. 780 00:35:42,613 --> 00:35:46,366 It gets to a judge and the judge basically says, 781 00:35:46,366 --> 00:35:49,077 "Let me get this straight. This is a wrestling show. 782 00:35:49,077 --> 00:35:52,206 Vince Russo is in a wrestling ring." 783 00:35:52,206 --> 00:35:57,211 "He is cutting a promo on a wrestling character, 784 00:35:57,211 --> 00:36:00,631 where is the defamation of character?" 785 00:36:00,631 --> 00:36:02,423 Like, Hulk, you're really suing him for this? 786 00:36:02,423 --> 00:36:03,424 Shut up. 787 00:36:03,424 --> 00:36:05,676 I would not have been a good witness for that. 788 00:36:05,676 --> 00:36:07,386 [Sighing] Strange times. 789 00:36:07,386 --> 00:36:09,222 [Laughing] 790 00:36:09,222 --> 00:36:12,808 I am cutting my promo on Hulk Hogan, 791 00:36:12,808 --> 00:36:16,854 not Terry Bollea. This is a story. 792 00:36:16,854 --> 00:36:21,817 Vince Russo is a character, Hulk Hogan is a character. 793 00:36:21,817 --> 00:36:25,529 If Vince Russo takes the position that because he was 794 00:36:25,529 --> 00:36:30,158 performing it as a character that took creative liberties 795 00:36:30,158 --> 00:36:33,453 with another professional, that that somehow makes it 796 00:36:33,453 --> 00:36:39,626 legal and okay, is a reflection of the man's ignorance. 797 00:36:39,626 --> 00:36:42,128 He's got more than a problem with facts and truth, 798 00:36:42,128 --> 00:36:44,589 he's got a problem with reality. 799 00:36:44,589 --> 00:36:47,467 And the first judge threw it out. 800 00:36:47,467 --> 00:36:50,427 They appealed it, and it went to a second judge. 801 00:36:50,427 --> 00:36:51,554 First of all, I don't think that it went to 802 00:36:51,554 --> 00:36:53,764 multiple courts to begin with. 803 00:36:53,764 --> 00:36:56,225 It's not like they took it to the Supreme Court 804 00:36:56,225 --> 00:36:58,018 for crying out loud. 805 00:36:58,018 --> 00:37:02,022 The sworn depositions reveal a key piece of information- 806 00:37:02,022 --> 00:37:04,733 That two days prior to Bash at the Beach, 807 00:37:04,733 --> 00:37:08,279 a fax was sent to the WCW head office. 808 00:37:08,279 --> 00:37:13,324 I found out after the WCW office is closed, 809 00:37:13,324 --> 00:37:16,077 Hulk Hogan's attorney 810 00:37:16,077 --> 00:37:20,748 faxes a letter to the WCW office 811 00:37:20,748 --> 00:37:25,878 saying, "Hulk Hogan is not approving that script." 812 00:37:25,878 --> 00:37:29,173 I have no idea of this. 813 00:37:29,173 --> 00:37:30,967 Here's why that doesn't hold up. 814 00:37:30,967 --> 00:37:33,678 It was never a discussion or a debate 815 00:37:33,678 --> 00:37:36,264 between Hulk and me and Russo, 816 00:37:36,264 --> 00:37:38,515 as to whether or not we were going to do 817 00:37:38,515 --> 00:37:41,351 something other than what Hulk and I had laid out. 818 00:37:41,351 --> 00:37:44,813 It wasn't up for debate, therefore why would... 819 00:37:44,813 --> 00:37:48,734 why would there be this after hours fax excuse? 820 00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:51,445 I mean, I'm trying to decide between two dishonest people, 821 00:37:51,445 --> 00:37:53,780 discussing something from twenty years ago, 822 00:37:53,780 --> 00:37:55,532 to do with a fax. 823 00:37:55,532 --> 00:37:57,409 Yeah, I don't remember a fax, but, you know, 824 00:37:57,409 --> 00:38:00,287 I never heard the fax story. I'll just say that. 825 00:38:00,287 --> 00:38:03,623 ♪ 826 00:38:03,623 --> 00:38:06,834 ♪ 827 00:38:06,834 --> 00:38:10,046 The fax exposes Hulk Hogan's real intentions 828 00:38:10,046 --> 00:38:13,716 to maximize the full strength of his creative control, 829 00:38:13,716 --> 00:38:17,261 and refuse any storyline Russo proposed. 830 00:38:17,261 --> 00:38:19,221 Russo triumphs in the courtroom, 831 00:38:19,221 --> 00:38:22,099 as an appeals court affirms that fictional characters 832 00:38:22,099 --> 00:38:24,018 cannot be defamed. 833 00:38:24,018 --> 00:38:26,645 However, it's Hogan who emerges victorious 834 00:38:26,645 --> 00:38:29,230 in his battle against WCW. 835 00:38:29,230 --> 00:38:32,484 Hulk made the decision the night of Bash at the Beach 836 00:38:32,484 --> 00:38:35,862 that, "I probably will not get renewed, 837 00:38:35,862 --> 00:38:39,783 so how can I get another paycheque from 838 00:38:39,783 --> 00:38:42,118 AOL Time Warner?" And that's through litigation. 839 00:38:50,209 --> 00:38:52,378 Well, Hulk Hogan was a key to building the company, 840 00:38:52,378 --> 00:38:54,046 and he obviously had the biggest name, 841 00:38:54,046 --> 00:38:56,674 but nothing is forever, and he'd been there too long and 842 00:38:56,674 --> 00:38:58,092 he became the face of failure. 843 00:38:58,092 --> 00:39:01,178 So, at that point he was getting paid so much, 844 00:39:01,178 --> 00:39:04,223 but he couldn't draw ratings to a great degree anymore, 845 00:39:04,223 --> 00:39:06,809 and people weren't going to go and pay to see Hulk Hogan 846 00:39:06,809 --> 00:39:09,144 matches that they'd seen for all those years. 847 00:39:09,144 --> 00:39:11,105 There was really nothing left to do with him. 848 00:39:11,105 --> 00:39:14,315 [Eric] And then you have scumbags like Dave Meltzer, 849 00:39:14,315 --> 00:39:17,193 who is nothing more than a useful idiot. 850 00:39:17,193 --> 00:39:18,861 Even though he calls himself a journalist, 851 00:39:18,861 --> 00:39:21,364 Dave Meltzer to this day hates Hulk Hogan. 852 00:39:21,364 --> 00:39:24,033 What Hulk Hogan was trying to achieve that night 853 00:39:24,033 --> 00:39:26,327 remains clouded in uncertainty. 854 00:39:26,327 --> 00:39:28,287 You know, I've asked myself that through the years. 855 00:39:28,287 --> 00:39:30,206 What was Hogan's vision? 856 00:39:30,206 --> 00:39:32,875 What was the upside? What was the ultimate plan? 857 00:39:32,875 --> 00:39:35,545 Was it to create so much controversy, 858 00:39:35,545 --> 00:39:37,588 or to get eyeballs on the product? 859 00:39:37,588 --> 00:39:40,799 Was it to be his version of a Montreal Screw Job, 860 00:39:40,799 --> 00:39:43,093 or his version of a... 861 00:39:43,093 --> 00:39:46,096 of a publicity stunt? I don't know. 862 00:39:46,096 --> 00:39:47,931 We certainly know the results of it, 863 00:39:47,931 --> 00:39:51,935 but I have no idea what his vision was. 864 00:39:51,935 --> 00:39:53,729 And Turner settled. I mean- 865 00:39:53,729 --> 00:39:56,356 [Laughing] This is, this is fun. 866 00:39:56,356 --> 00:39:59,401 Because I sat with Hulk and his attorney Henry Holmes 867 00:39:59,401 --> 00:40:01,111 they day that they settled that. 868 00:40:01,111 --> 00:40:03,696 They took me out to dinner and told me what happened. 869 00:40:03,696 --> 00:40:05,281 They never gave me the amount, 870 00:40:05,281 --> 00:40:09,535 that was confidential, but I know it was 871 00:40:09,535 --> 00:40:13,706 well, well into seven figures. 872 00:40:13,706 --> 00:40:16,792 Some folks play chess while others are playing checkers. 873 00:40:16,792 --> 00:40:18,502 The night at Bash at the Beach, 874 00:40:18,502 --> 00:40:20,880 Hulk decided to start playing chess, 875 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,382 and he had the patience, and he cashed out. 876 00:40:23,382 --> 00:40:26,010 ♪ 877 00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:31,222 What's Jeff doing? 878 00:40:31,222 --> 00:40:34,225 Russo I think told Jarrett to lay down, what's going on? 879 00:40:34,225 --> 00:40:36,978 The facts of what actually went down at 880 00:40:36,978 --> 00:40:40,607 Bash at the Beach 2000 will forever be murky. 881 00:40:40,607 --> 00:40:42,525 But what was clear to fans that night 882 00:40:42,525 --> 00:40:45,361 was that the chaos and confusion only 883 00:40:45,361 --> 00:40:48,114 underscored the disorder and disintegration 884 00:40:48,114 --> 00:40:50,158 at the heart of the company. 885 00:40:50,158 --> 00:40:52,034 It was the reality the night this happened, 886 00:40:52,034 --> 00:40:54,828 and it's the reality as I sit here today saying this. 887 00:40:54,828 --> 00:40:58,123 In a business that gave him everything, 888 00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:00,375 and that's what he gave back. 889 00:41:00,375 --> 00:41:04,588 It's about the most self-centred, egotistical, 890 00:41:04,588 --> 00:41:09,468 power playing move, that only benefitted Hulk. 891 00:41:09,468 --> 00:41:11,762 And that's the reality. 892 00:41:11,762 --> 00:41:15,264 But I mean as far as a storyline based on 893 00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:17,225 what they were doing at the time, 894 00:41:17,225 --> 00:41:19,268 it was something that would get people talking, 895 00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:21,062 and could've built to something. 896 00:41:21,062 --> 00:41:22,814 So I did like Booker T being champion, 897 00:41:22,814 --> 00:41:24,190 I thought that was cool. You know, 898 00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:26,567 it's not same old same old Hulk Hogan champion, right? 899 00:41:26,567 --> 00:41:29,153 So, I guess I did like that. 900 00:41:29,153 --> 00:41:30,530 I do remember that. You know thinking, "Ah." 901 00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:32,532 You know, "At least it's something new." 902 00:41:32,532 --> 00:41:33,699 [Cheering] 903 00:41:33,699 --> 00:41:35,868 And let me tell you who doesn't give a shit about 904 00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:40,705 this company, that goddamn politician Hulk Hogan. 905 00:41:40,705 --> 00:41:45,585 It was destined for failure from the beginning. 906 00:41:45,585 --> 00:41:47,212 At the end of it all, 907 00:41:47,212 --> 00:41:48,672 I don't think that Bash on the Beach 908 00:41:48,672 --> 00:41:51,716 was the nail in the coffin for WCW. 909 00:41:51,716 --> 00:41:53,552 You see what is says right here? 910 00:41:53,552 --> 00:41:56,263 This is my ass, if you will. 911 00:41:56,263 --> 00:41:57,264 You know what I mean? It was like 912 00:41:57,264 --> 00:41:58,306 the gig was already up. 913 00:41:58,306 --> 00:41:59,975 It was just kind of a floundering company. 914 00:41:59,975 --> 00:42:03,811 WCW was a star that became a supernova, 915 00:42:03,811 --> 00:42:06,313 and then burned itself out. 916 00:42:06,313 --> 00:42:10,109 In its dying days, WCW is snapped up by its longtime 917 00:42:10,109 --> 00:42:13,529 arch-rival Vince McMahon and the WWF, 918 00:42:13,529 --> 00:42:16,907 despite having an attractive offer on the table from 919 00:42:16,907 --> 00:42:18,409 a venture capital firm, 920 00:42:18,409 --> 00:42:21,328 spearheaded by Eric Bischoff. 921 00:42:21,328 --> 00:42:24,832 The deal for us to purchase WCW was for $67 million, 922 00:42:24,832 --> 00:42:28,459 we buy all the assets, and we get placement 923 00:42:28,459 --> 00:42:30,837 on Monday nights and Thursday nights. 924 00:42:30,837 --> 00:42:32,547 That was our deal. 925 00:42:32,547 --> 00:42:34,299 And I get a phone call. 926 00:42:34,299 --> 00:42:36,134 They said, "Eric, it's done." 927 00:42:36,134 --> 00:42:38,261 I thought he meant the deal was done. 928 00:42:38,261 --> 00:42:40,930 Like, "Pew!" We own a wrestling company. 929 00:42:40,930 --> 00:42:43,349 I'm about ready to jump up and start dancing. 930 00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:44,601 I said, "You mean it's done?" 931 00:42:44,601 --> 00:42:45,935 He goes, "No, Eric, you don't get it. 932 00:42:45,935 --> 00:42:49,230 It's over, there's no deal. 933 00:42:49,230 --> 00:42:51,398 Turner took it off the table." 934 00:42:51,398 --> 00:42:54,401 It took a minute for that to sink in. 935 00:42:54,401 --> 00:42:56,278 It was a fire sale at the end. 936 00:42:56,278 --> 00:42:57,905 Time Warner wanted to get rid of wrestling. 937 00:42:57,905 --> 00:43:01,408 I think it was like $2.5 million for the actual WCW, 938 00:43:01,408 --> 00:43:03,994 and I think it was $1.7 million more for, um, 939 00:43:03,994 --> 00:43:05,120 the tape library. 940 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,164 It was definitely the equivalent of, um, 941 00:43:07,164 --> 00:43:09,625 you know, buying Manhattan for $25. 942 00:43:09,625 --> 00:43:10,918 That's right. 943 00:43:10,918 --> 00:43:15,047 I own WCW. 944 00:43:15,047 --> 00:43:16,839 [Eric] I have zero regrets, man. 945 00:43:16,839 --> 00:43:18,341 I have zero regrets. 946 00:43:18,341 --> 00:43:20,259 You know, regret to me is a negative thing, 947 00:43:20,259 --> 00:43:22,053 it's like baggage. 948 00:43:22,053 --> 00:43:25,556 I try not to carry any baggage with me at all. 949 00:43:25,556 --> 00:43:28,726 [Jeff] I've said this about Vince Russo. 950 00:43:28,726 --> 00:43:32,897 Vince is a guy who's very passionate, like a lot of us, 951 00:43:32,897 --> 00:43:35,691 and does what he thinks 952 00:43:35,691 --> 00:43:38,903 the viewer wants... 953 00:43:38,903 --> 00:43:41,196 to watch. 954 00:43:41,196 --> 00:43:44,199 And he's had successes and he's had failures, 955 00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:46,701 like all of us. 956 00:43:46,701 --> 00:43:49,579 Do you know how little this shit matters? 957 00:43:49,579 --> 00:43:53,416 It is a form of entertainment. 958 00:43:53,416 --> 00:43:55,710 At the end of the day 959 00:43:55,710 --> 00:43:59,631 I don't hate any of these people, bro. 960 00:43:59,631 --> 00:44:02,092 This was a job. 961 00:44:02,092 --> 00:44:04,343 People ask me all the time today, 962 00:44:04,343 --> 00:44:05,761 "Vince, what is your advice 963 00:44:05,761 --> 00:44:07,304 to get into the wrestling business"? 964 00:44:07,304 --> 00:44:09,682 And I tell them, "Don't." 965 00:44:09,732 --> 00:44:14,282 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 74508

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