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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,683 --> 00:00:07,043 What you're about to see is not just a film about bushfires. 2 00:00:07,083 --> 00:00:08,483 It's about resilience. 3 00:00:08,523 --> 00:00:11,683 It's about power of help and it's about hope. 4 00:00:11,723 --> 00:00:14,643 It's about finding our way back when we can't see a path 5 00:00:14,683 --> 00:00:17,683 and it's about how we as a nation galvanised 6 00:00:17,723 --> 00:00:21,483 to face one of the greatest natural disasters in our history. 7 00:00:25,923 --> 00:00:29,963 From our incredible volunteer firefighters who ran towards danger 8 00:00:30,003 --> 00:00:33,043 to our wildlife warriors who worked tirelessly, 9 00:00:33,083 --> 00:00:36,043 you'll see bystanders who became up-standers. 10 00:00:36,083 --> 00:00:39,123 These stories are tough to tell but important to share. 11 00:00:39,163 --> 00:00:42,323 You will hear astonishing accounts of bravery 12 00:00:42,363 --> 00:00:47,003 but also of the devastating impact these fires had on so many. 13 00:00:47,043 --> 00:00:48,963 And to those of you still struggling, 14 00:00:49,003 --> 00:00:51,883 we hope you will take some comfort in this film 15 00:00:51,923 --> 00:00:56,083 and know that you are not alone and that help is available. 16 00:00:56,123 --> 00:00:58,483 This is A Fire Inside. 17 00:01:10,483 --> 00:01:11,963 (THUNDER BOOMS) 18 00:02:39,083 --> 00:02:42,083 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 19 00:03:04,123 --> 00:03:08,043 REPORTER: The terrifying scale of Australia's bushfire disaster 20 00:03:08,083 --> 00:03:09,683 is beginning to emerge... 21 00:03:16,323 --> 00:03:19,883 REPORTER: It's been labelled the worst fire season ever recorded. 22 00:03:25,563 --> 00:03:28,283 REPORTER: There are downright apocalyptic images 23 00:03:28,323 --> 00:03:29,803 coming out of Australia right now 24 00:03:29,843 --> 00:03:32,443 as the country's battling hundreds of fires... 25 00:03:32,483 --> 00:03:35,483 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 26 00:03:37,883 --> 00:03:40,043 GLADYS BEREJIKLIAN: We can't pretend that this is something 27 00:03:40,083 --> 00:03:41,323 we've experienced before. 28 00:03:41,363 --> 00:03:42,363 It's not. 29 00:03:46,883 --> 00:03:48,963 REPORTER: Small towns have been wiped out, 30 00:03:49,003 --> 00:03:52,043 properties, homes, memories ablaze... 31 00:03:57,043 --> 00:04:00,923 REPORTER: An area bigger than England has been reduced to ash. 32 00:04:02,803 --> 00:04:07,003 MAN: And we're not even at the peak of the bushfire season... 33 00:04:10,363 --> 00:04:12,683 REPORTER: There's been no hiding from these fires - 34 00:04:12,723 --> 00:04:15,923 horrific scenes that have shocked the world... 35 00:04:18,323 --> 00:04:21,683 WOMAN: What was harder to see... was the way people responded... 36 00:04:25,923 --> 00:04:29,323 WOMAN: Volunteerism is indelibly marked into our Australian DNA. 37 00:04:32,203 --> 00:04:35,243 But this summer, this took on a whole new meaning... 38 00:04:35,283 --> 00:04:38,283 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 39 00:05:11,603 --> 00:05:13,123 MAN: My join date's really simple. 40 00:05:13,163 --> 00:05:16,203 It's 9/9/09 - 090909. 41 00:05:16,243 --> 00:05:18,283 It's hard to believe it's been that long. 42 00:05:18,323 --> 00:05:20,243 Like, I still remember being 16... 43 00:05:20,283 --> 00:05:22,563 like, 16 years old and watching you run to fires. 44 00:05:22,603 --> 00:05:24,883 Like, we would stay up waiting for Dad to come home, remember? 45 00:05:24,923 --> 00:05:26,363 We'd ask him all about it. Yeah. 46 00:05:26,403 --> 00:05:29,043 And the last thing you wanted to do was tell us all about it 47 00:05:29,083 --> 00:05:30,883 'cause you were knackered and just wanted to sleep. 48 00:05:30,923 --> 00:05:32,683 I'll do that now. You do do that now. 49 00:05:32,723 --> 00:05:34,323 The difference is we're there with you now. 50 00:05:34,363 --> 00:05:35,643 (LAUGHTER) 51 00:05:35,683 --> 00:05:38,163 I remember, as a 16-year-old kid, you know, 52 00:05:38,203 --> 00:05:40,203 watching my dad run out to go and assist people 53 00:05:40,243 --> 00:05:43,163 and just thinking, you know, "Man, I want to be like him 54 00:05:43,203 --> 00:05:44,843 "and I want to follow in his footsteps." 55 00:05:46,963 --> 00:05:48,883 MAN: Made senior deputy in our brigade. 56 00:05:48,923 --> 00:05:52,243 Yeah, have been captain now going on eight years. 57 00:05:52,283 --> 00:05:54,763 You can see it, you know, generations all working their way through, 58 00:05:54,803 --> 00:05:56,403 right down to the sons 59 00:05:56,443 --> 00:05:57,923 and you'll find probably... And daughters. 60 00:05:57,963 --> 00:05:59,043 And daughters. And daughters too. 61 00:05:59,083 --> 00:06:00,763 Yeah, don't get me wrong... And daughters. Yeah. 62 00:06:00,803 --> 00:06:03,563 Sometimes they'll have four generations still in the one brigade. 63 00:06:03,603 --> 00:06:05,963 We went out there, we did an all-nighter 64 00:06:06,003 --> 00:06:08,643 out at, oh, back of Bemboka, the Yankees Gap. 65 00:06:08,683 --> 00:06:12,603 All we had was lollies and biscuits and Mars bars and stuff 66 00:06:12,643 --> 00:06:13,963 and a heap of snakes and stuff. 67 00:06:14,003 --> 00:06:15,043 All good for you. 68 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:17,203 All really good for us till about 3:00 in the morning... 69 00:06:17,243 --> 00:06:18,403 (WOMAN LAUGHS) 70 00:06:18,443 --> 00:06:20,323 Then things turned to worse 71 00:06:20,363 --> 00:06:23,083 and we all started getting stomach cramps at the same time 72 00:06:23,123 --> 00:06:24,843 and all we could find was a wombat hole. 73 00:06:24,883 --> 00:06:27,483 (LAUGHTER) 74 00:06:27,523 --> 00:06:29,483 Needless to say, the wombat never come out. 75 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:31,443 (LAUGHTER) 76 00:06:31,483 --> 00:06:33,243 Oh, that's not OK. (LAUGHS) 77 00:06:33,283 --> 00:06:35,123 Neither was the rest of the crew. (LAUGHTER) 78 00:06:35,163 --> 00:06:37,043 We are all fighting over the wombat hole. 79 00:06:37,083 --> 00:06:38,323 You did not. (LAUGHTER) 80 00:06:39,883 --> 00:06:41,203 There's everything from... 81 00:06:41,243 --> 00:06:43,603 You could've all stories of saving houses and... No. 82 00:06:43,643 --> 00:06:45,843 ..pulling people out of car accidents... No. 83 00:06:45,883 --> 00:06:48,003 Instead, you decided to tell about shitting in a wombat hole. 84 00:06:48,043 --> 00:06:50,363 Like, that's... That's what it's all about. 85 00:06:50,403 --> 00:06:51,683 (LAUGHS) Oh, Jesus. 86 00:06:51,723 --> 00:06:53,443 (LAUGHTER) 87 00:06:53,483 --> 00:06:57,363 The RFS is the largest recognised volunteer firefighting organisation 88 00:06:57,403 --> 00:06:58,643 in the world. 89 00:07:00,363 --> 00:07:03,363 Each state across the country has a similar organisation. 90 00:07:03,403 --> 00:07:08,843 There are more than 170,000 volunteer firefighters across the country. 91 00:07:08,883 --> 00:07:12,003 Most people have no idea that they're not being paid 92 00:07:12,043 --> 00:07:17,523 but volunteers make up 90% of the firefighting workforce. 93 00:07:17,563 --> 00:07:19,923 As you can see, they've got different colour reflectors in them. 94 00:07:19,963 --> 00:07:21,683 This one here's made in Australia at the moment 95 00:07:21,723 --> 00:07:23,323 and also this one's made in Australia. 96 00:07:23,363 --> 00:07:25,163 My day job, I work for a lighting company. 97 00:07:25,203 --> 00:07:27,123 As a day job, I work for the federal government. 98 00:07:27,163 --> 00:07:30,403 MAN: I do a tow truck duty as well. 99 00:07:30,443 --> 00:07:32,963 I run my own graphic design business. 100 00:07:33,003 --> 00:07:35,843 I work for the local council, myself. 101 00:07:35,883 --> 00:07:40,283 MAN: My main job is to cut the fish and process the fish. 102 00:07:40,323 --> 00:07:42,563 MAN: One of the important things to recognise, 103 00:07:42,603 --> 00:07:45,683 the RFS volunteers are just everyday Australians. 104 00:07:45,723 --> 00:07:49,163 You could just take a sample of everyday people 105 00:07:49,203 --> 00:07:50,283 walking down the street 106 00:07:50,323 --> 00:07:53,083 and they would be reflective of the people who then put on a uniform 107 00:07:53,123 --> 00:07:54,163 and go firefighting. 108 00:07:54,203 --> 00:07:57,563 He had me light her up and I lit her up with the drip torch 109 00:07:57,603 --> 00:07:59,603 and my heart's pounding out of my chest 110 00:07:59,643 --> 00:08:02,083 and I've got photos of us having to jump back into the cab 111 00:08:02,123 --> 00:08:03,883 with bright red faces 'cause we were so hot. 112 00:08:03,923 --> 00:08:04,963 (MAN LAUGHS) 113 00:08:05,003 --> 00:08:06,523 And that's why you keep the aircon running. 114 00:08:06,563 --> 00:08:07,723 (MAN LAUGHS) 115 00:08:07,763 --> 00:08:09,483 MAN: I was a corporal in the army. 116 00:08:09,523 --> 00:08:13,683 I did want to join the police force first but I was too short. (LAUGHS) 117 00:08:13,723 --> 00:08:16,483 At that time, they still had the 5'9" height. 118 00:08:16,523 --> 00:08:18,723 I'm 5'7", so I was a bit short for that. 119 00:08:18,763 --> 00:08:20,043 Just be safe. 120 00:08:20,083 --> 00:08:22,123 Listen to the instructions, what you're being asked. 121 00:08:22,163 --> 00:08:25,363 Make sure we've got no little kinks and stuff like that in there. 122 00:08:25,403 --> 00:08:29,003 BRENDON: But when I left the army, it left a big void in my life. 123 00:08:29,043 --> 00:08:31,403 A bit of an adrenaline junkie, I guess. 124 00:08:31,443 --> 00:08:34,683 So, when my wife and I moved out to Balmoral, 125 00:08:34,723 --> 00:08:36,043 within a couple of months, 126 00:08:36,083 --> 00:08:39,043 I was joined into the brigade and filled that void. 127 00:08:45,163 --> 00:08:47,683 While most people are running away from the fire, 128 00:08:47,723 --> 00:08:49,683 we're running TO the fire. 129 00:08:51,883 --> 00:08:54,163 I've never met a person yet that can understand 130 00:08:54,203 --> 00:08:56,763 why we pay for ourselves to go to these things. 131 00:08:58,163 --> 00:09:00,323 And I guess I can understand where they're coming from 132 00:09:00,363 --> 00:09:02,603 'cause it's not a normal thing people would do. 133 00:09:05,003 --> 00:09:06,483 NATHAN BARNDEN: How do you convince 134 00:09:06,523 --> 00:09:08,963 thousands and thousands of everyday Australians 135 00:09:09,003 --> 00:09:10,683 to go and stand in front of something 136 00:09:10,723 --> 00:09:11,963 that could potentially take their life? 137 00:09:33,563 --> 00:09:36,203 BRENDON O'CONNOR: We'd been in drought for nearly three-odd years. 138 00:09:38,283 --> 00:09:41,963 Locally, all of our rivers, creeks were all dry. 139 00:09:42,003 --> 00:09:43,923 Most of the dams were dry. 140 00:09:46,163 --> 00:09:48,243 We knew, by all indicators, 141 00:09:48,283 --> 00:09:51,243 that we were coming into potentially the worst season we'd ever seen. 142 00:09:57,003 --> 00:10:00,723 MAN: 2019 was shaping up to be Australia's hottest ever year. 143 00:10:04,163 --> 00:10:07,443 But it's also a season where we were expecting to see cold fronts 144 00:10:07,483 --> 00:10:11,683 moving very quickly over the south-eastern parts of Australia. 145 00:10:11,723 --> 00:10:13,123 That's the other missing ingredient, 146 00:10:13,163 --> 00:10:15,203 because for extremely bad bushfire conditions, 147 00:10:15,243 --> 00:10:16,963 you also need to have strong winds. 148 00:10:17,003 --> 00:10:20,043 (THUNDER CRACKS) 149 00:10:21,403 --> 00:10:23,283 SHANE FITZSIMMONS: This was one of the earliest starts 150 00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:24,763 to the fire season we've ever seen. 151 00:10:24,803 --> 00:10:28,443 Ignitions were starting very easily 152 00:10:28,483 --> 00:10:31,523 and fire was spreading ridiculously quickly. 153 00:10:34,443 --> 00:10:36,163 Given the conditions, 154 00:10:36,203 --> 00:10:38,443 a lot of the hazard reduction and prescribed burning programs 155 00:10:38,483 --> 00:10:40,083 were challenged. 156 00:10:41,163 --> 00:10:44,003 BRENDON O'CONNOR: Where normally we could light a 20m strip, 157 00:10:44,043 --> 00:10:46,003 it was one drop. 158 00:10:46,043 --> 00:10:47,643 That was all you needed. 159 00:10:48,963 --> 00:10:51,483 And within seconds, that was ten feet wide. 160 00:10:52,963 --> 00:10:54,883 So it was very volatile. 161 00:11:00,603 --> 00:11:02,523 SHANE FITZSIMMONS: I won't refer to it as 'Black Summer' 162 00:11:02,563 --> 00:11:05,923 because we were dealing with over 1,000 fires a month in winter 163 00:11:05,963 --> 00:11:09,003 and then the fires intensified as we moved into spring and summer. 164 00:11:09,043 --> 00:11:12,043 (FIRE ROARS) 165 00:11:23,803 --> 00:11:26,163 WOMAN: Nothing was gonna stop those fires. 166 00:11:26,203 --> 00:11:29,963 They were something dragged up out of hell and dumped on Earth. 167 00:11:30,003 --> 00:11:32,443 MAN: Go! Go! Go! 168 00:11:34,603 --> 00:11:39,563 (MEN CALL OUT INDISTINCTLY) 169 00:11:39,603 --> 00:11:41,843 Everything we tried to do just didn't work. 170 00:11:41,883 --> 00:11:46,083 (MAN CALLS OUT INDISTINCTLY) 171 00:11:46,123 --> 00:11:48,243 The fire was just, you know, 172 00:11:48,283 --> 00:11:49,843 too severe for what we were expecting 173 00:11:49,883 --> 00:11:51,243 and what we were capable of doing. 174 00:11:53,723 --> 00:11:56,363 When everything that you've ever been taught doesn't work, 175 00:11:56,403 --> 00:11:57,803 what do you do? 176 00:11:57,843 --> 00:12:00,843 (FIRE ROARS) 177 00:12:08,363 --> 00:12:11,363 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 178 00:12:30,363 --> 00:12:32,043 BRENDON O'CONNOR: We had the Green Wattle fire 179 00:12:32,083 --> 00:12:34,603 about 7.5km out to our west. 180 00:12:35,923 --> 00:12:37,483 Everyone was very much on edge. 181 00:12:44,603 --> 00:12:48,563 With us in Balmoral here, we've got a lot of national park around us. 182 00:12:50,283 --> 00:12:54,163 It was not if it was gonna get to us, it was when. 183 00:12:56,443 --> 00:12:59,443 (PLANE ENGINE ROARS) 184 00:13:03,083 --> 00:13:06,563 Once the fire stood up, within ten, 15 minutes, 185 00:13:06,603 --> 00:13:11,523 the first wave came through and then we were engulfed. 186 00:13:19,483 --> 00:13:22,483 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 187 00:13:27,923 --> 00:13:31,763 I must say, that's probably the only time in my life 188 00:13:31,803 --> 00:13:33,523 I've actually thought, "This will probably be it." 189 00:13:33,563 --> 00:13:36,563 (MUFFLED RADIO COMMUNICATIONS) 190 00:13:39,243 --> 00:13:40,523 MAN: Fuck. 191 00:13:47,083 --> 00:13:50,963 Most tragically, two firefighters lost their lives that night 192 00:13:51,003 --> 00:13:53,323 coming in to help us, 193 00:13:53,363 --> 00:13:55,643 which a lot of us knew those guys. 194 00:14:03,483 --> 00:14:07,043 SHANE FITZSIMMONS: On that fateful night, on Thursday, 19 December, 195 00:14:07,083 --> 00:14:12,563 it was a truly tragic accident and we lost two beautiful individuals 196 00:14:12,603 --> 00:14:16,043 who so selflessly for years have dedicated 197 00:14:16,083 --> 00:14:18,963 to the cause of serving and protecting their local community 198 00:14:19,003 --> 00:14:21,083 and communities much further afield. 199 00:14:22,843 --> 00:14:27,563 For baby Charlotte, you need to know that your dad was a selfless man, 200 00:14:27,603 --> 00:14:29,203 he was a special man 201 00:14:29,243 --> 00:14:32,323 and he only left us because he was a hero. 202 00:14:35,043 --> 00:14:38,043 (BELL TOLLS) 203 00:14:39,163 --> 00:14:42,163 (SOLEMN MUSIC) 204 00:14:45,203 --> 00:14:48,643 BRENDON O'CONNOR: Morale-wise, really hurt everyone. 205 00:14:50,363 --> 00:14:54,323 It affects you very personally to know that these guys lost their lives 206 00:14:54,363 --> 00:14:56,203 coming in to help protect us. 207 00:14:59,963 --> 00:15:02,683 To help honour them, we need to protect 208 00:15:02,723 --> 00:15:05,843 what those guys were putting their lives on the line for 209 00:15:05,883 --> 00:15:07,723 and keep fighting. 210 00:15:12,163 --> 00:15:14,923 That Thursday, 19 December, 211 00:15:14,963 --> 00:15:17,523 the fire was gonna be pushed into the village again. 212 00:15:19,403 --> 00:15:23,323 Myself and every other captain within the Southern Highlands team 213 00:15:23,363 --> 00:15:25,643 were asked to leave our villages. 214 00:15:28,243 --> 00:15:30,203 For me, straight away, it was a no. 215 00:15:32,683 --> 00:15:34,963 After fighting for our village for the last two days, 216 00:15:35,003 --> 00:15:37,563 I was not gonna leave. 217 00:15:38,723 --> 00:15:40,403 I put it to our brigade. 218 00:15:40,443 --> 00:15:44,403 Every member in our brigade in Balmoral decided they wanted to stay. 219 00:15:45,523 --> 00:15:48,203 Lakesland, Douglas Park and Mount Hunter, 220 00:15:48,243 --> 00:15:51,723 they refused to leave and they actually came back in. 221 00:15:51,763 --> 00:15:54,763 That gave us five vehicles to be able to take on the fight. 222 00:15:57,243 --> 00:16:00,603 No other volunteer fire brigades could either come in 223 00:16:00,643 --> 00:16:02,923 or were allowed in. 224 00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:06,523 We could hear them asking and requesting to be sent in 225 00:16:06,563 --> 00:16:08,923 and that being refused by Fire Control. 226 00:16:08,963 --> 00:16:12,523 They obviously deemed it too unsafe to be here. 227 00:16:22,563 --> 00:16:26,003 (HELICOPTER WHIRRS) 228 00:16:26,043 --> 00:16:29,043 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 229 00:16:36,443 --> 00:16:37,803 (MAN CALLS OUT INDISTINCTLY) 230 00:16:39,963 --> 00:16:42,163 BRENDON O'CONNOR: You're in an absolute firestorm. 231 00:16:44,963 --> 00:16:46,643 It was day but it was night. 232 00:16:50,923 --> 00:16:54,203 We fought our way back here because the other call came through 233 00:16:54,243 --> 00:16:57,563 that 35 people were now in the station 234 00:16:57,603 --> 00:16:59,843 and the station was actually being impacted now. 235 00:17:09,563 --> 00:17:13,763 WOMAN: When we got in the fire shed, everything was all hazy. 236 00:17:13,803 --> 00:17:16,243 Oh, it was chaos. It really was. 237 00:17:16,283 --> 00:17:18,843 The fire shed was already under ember attack at that stage. 238 00:17:22,803 --> 00:17:24,843 HELENA KAM: Outside, it was roaring. 239 00:17:24,883 --> 00:17:27,923 Yeah. it was... You could hear the embers hitting the shed. 240 00:17:27,963 --> 00:17:30,963 (FIRE ROARS) 241 00:17:33,443 --> 00:17:36,603 BRENDON O'CONNOR: Our fire station is the place of last resort. 242 00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:41,043 They believed they were all gonna die in here that night, potentially. 243 00:17:41,083 --> 00:17:43,763 (MEN CALL OUT INDISTINCTLY) 244 00:17:43,803 --> 00:17:45,083 We were running out of water. 245 00:17:45,123 --> 00:17:49,603 Firefighters had to stay to try to defend. 246 00:17:49,643 --> 00:17:53,203 Just through sheer exhaustion, they collapsed where they were. 247 00:17:53,243 --> 00:17:56,563 We were absolutely spent. 248 00:17:56,603 --> 00:17:59,603 (FIRE ROARS) 249 00:17:59,643 --> 00:18:02,643 (MEN CALL OUT INDISTINCTLY) 250 00:18:14,203 --> 00:18:16,643 I remember calling out "The cavalry's here." 251 00:18:16,683 --> 00:18:19,163 (MEN CALL OUT INDISTINCTLY) 252 00:18:19,203 --> 00:18:23,403 Just as we had ran out of water, station officer Jason Strong, 253 00:18:23,443 --> 00:18:25,283 through New South Wales Fire and Rescue, 254 00:18:25,323 --> 00:18:28,363 he was hearing my calls and he couldn't deal with it anymore. 255 00:18:28,403 --> 00:18:30,883 (MEN CALL OUT INDISTINCTLY) 256 00:18:32,323 --> 00:18:35,483 They were our first back-up that we received. 257 00:18:39,043 --> 00:18:41,603 They were absolute lifesavers at that point. 258 00:18:54,683 --> 00:18:56,643 JUSTIN KAM: Brendon, being the person he is, 259 00:18:56,683 --> 00:19:00,083 was unwilling to leave the village undefended. 260 00:19:02,083 --> 00:19:05,963 I believe that those actions of his saved the village 261 00:19:06,003 --> 00:19:07,643 because nobody else came to help us 262 00:19:07,683 --> 00:19:11,603 until a lot of the properties were already, you know, under attack. 263 00:19:11,643 --> 00:19:13,843 And lives would have been lost. 264 00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:22,883 It amazes us how some of these people will give 265 00:19:22,923 --> 00:19:25,523 without even thinking of their own situation. 266 00:19:27,083 --> 00:19:31,203 It is very difficult to imagine how some of these other individuals 267 00:19:31,243 --> 00:19:33,243 will go fight somebody else's fires 268 00:19:33,283 --> 00:19:35,963 and not worry about whether their house is burning. 269 00:19:39,123 --> 00:19:41,403 BRENDON O'CONNOR: Two of our members lost their homes, 270 00:19:41,443 --> 00:19:43,883 one directly behind my home 271 00:19:43,923 --> 00:19:45,123 and one of the other members, 272 00:19:45,163 --> 00:19:49,243 while he was saving his neighbour's home, watched his own home burn down. 273 00:19:54,403 --> 00:19:57,003 You know, they're just your average battler. 274 00:19:57,043 --> 00:20:00,963 Most people are struggling day to day as it is, 275 00:20:01,003 --> 00:20:04,523 you know, with paying the bills and keeping their family going. 276 00:20:06,283 --> 00:20:07,843 NATHAN BARNDEN: One guy, he works on horses 277 00:20:07,883 --> 00:20:09,403 and we were coming out of a drought. 278 00:20:09,443 --> 00:20:12,843 Half the stock on the coast were either injured or killed. 279 00:20:12,883 --> 00:20:15,043 He essentially lost his business. 280 00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:18,243 But every day, he was out firefighting, 281 00:20:18,283 --> 00:20:20,683 not making an income, not finding a new job. 282 00:20:20,723 --> 00:20:22,963 He was out protecting his community. 283 00:20:25,443 --> 00:20:27,523 BRENDON O'CONNOR: I'm in awe of every firefighter. 284 00:20:28,523 --> 00:20:33,403 The hours everyone was working, you know, absolute sleep deprivation, 285 00:20:33,443 --> 00:20:38,323 working in the most trying, most dangerous conditions... 286 00:20:41,643 --> 00:20:45,803 JUSTIN KAM: Seeing one of the firefighters lying, unable to breathe 287 00:20:45,843 --> 00:20:48,963 because he was suffering from heat exhaustion and smoke inhalation, 288 00:20:49,003 --> 00:20:54,283 it tells you the levels that they will push themselves. 289 00:20:54,323 --> 00:20:56,243 And they're volunteers... 290 00:20:58,883 --> 00:21:02,003 so what does that tell you about their psyche? 291 00:21:05,203 --> 00:21:06,923 It's a completely different mindset. 292 00:21:18,363 --> 00:21:20,723 NATHAN BARNDEN: I started receiving 000 calls 293 00:21:20,763 --> 00:21:22,403 of people who were trapped in homes... 294 00:21:26,563 --> 00:21:30,963 and this is right as the firestorm hit town the hardest. 295 00:21:33,963 --> 00:21:37,763 The initial report was for a family of seven, with five children, 296 00:21:37,803 --> 00:21:40,163 trapped inside their house and that the house was on fire. 297 00:21:43,003 --> 00:21:46,323 I grabbed a firefighter, whose name was John Gallagher. 298 00:21:48,083 --> 00:21:50,043 We were in a four-wheel-drive, essentially, 299 00:21:50,083 --> 00:21:53,123 so we had no firefighting hoses, no protective curtains, 300 00:21:53,163 --> 00:21:55,563 no sprinkler systems, nothing to protect us. 301 00:21:58,083 --> 00:22:01,163 The fire was basically hitting the side of the car on all sides 302 00:22:01,203 --> 00:22:02,763 as we drove through it... 303 00:22:04,083 --> 00:22:06,523 and as we were driving down this road, 304 00:22:06,563 --> 00:22:11,363 things just got increasingly intense in fire behaviour 305 00:22:11,403 --> 00:22:12,883 and we found ourselves at a point 306 00:22:12,923 --> 00:22:16,323 where we made the decision that we physically couldn't get any further. 307 00:22:16,363 --> 00:22:17,763 We tried to turn around 308 00:22:17,803 --> 00:22:19,883 and we got caught in the stormwater sort of drain. 309 00:22:33,123 --> 00:22:34,763 We couldn't get the car out 310 00:22:34,803 --> 00:22:38,003 and we were just being hammered with wind and debris 311 00:22:38,043 --> 00:22:40,963 and everything was falling to pieces around us and I... 312 00:22:42,483 --> 00:22:46,843 I remember looking at John and I know... 313 00:22:46,883 --> 00:22:48,243 and we never said it 314 00:22:48,283 --> 00:22:53,003 but we both just looked at each other and went, like, "This is it." 315 00:22:53,043 --> 00:22:57,083 "Yeah, this is where we... This is where it ends for us." 316 00:22:57,123 --> 00:23:00,683 And we kind of just did that thing where you look at each other 317 00:23:00,723 --> 00:23:02,443 and you just nod 318 00:23:02,483 --> 00:23:04,163 and you knew. 319 00:23:04,203 --> 00:23:08,523 And we kept trying to get the car out and it just wouldn't move. 320 00:23:13,043 --> 00:23:14,883 And eventually it just managed 321 00:23:14,923 --> 00:23:17,763 to just pull itself out of the gutter a little bit 322 00:23:17,803 --> 00:23:19,363 and back onto the road. 323 00:23:20,523 --> 00:23:23,203 We went back out to the intersection of the Princes Highway. 324 00:23:24,563 --> 00:23:26,963 I radioed our control centre 325 00:23:27,003 --> 00:23:30,483 and I said that we couldn't get to the family, like, to the people. 326 00:23:30,523 --> 00:23:32,323 But I asked them, you know, 327 00:23:32,363 --> 00:23:35,363 "Can you guarantee that there are people in there, 328 00:23:35,403 --> 00:23:39,643 "because if we go back, this is," you know... 329 00:23:39,683 --> 00:23:43,963 The likelihood of being that lucky twice isn't really high. 330 00:23:44,003 --> 00:23:46,483 And they replied with, 331 00:23:46,523 --> 00:23:49,123 "To the best of our knowledge, there are people in that house" 332 00:23:49,163 --> 00:23:53,363 and so we shut everything up and we turned around and we went back in. 333 00:23:53,403 --> 00:23:56,403 (TENSE MUSIC) 334 00:24:06,963 --> 00:24:09,003 I remember driving into the property 335 00:24:09,043 --> 00:24:11,043 and we pull up at the front of the house 336 00:24:11,083 --> 00:24:13,523 and three-quarters of the house is on fire. 337 00:24:14,683 --> 00:24:17,523 And we can't see a single person. 338 00:24:23,043 --> 00:24:26,523 And their car's in the driveway and it's on fire. 339 00:24:26,563 --> 00:24:29,043 All of their sheds are burning. 340 00:24:29,083 --> 00:24:31,883 The veranda to the front door is on fire. 341 00:24:31,923 --> 00:24:36,403 Everything that you can possibly think of around you is on fire. 342 00:24:40,003 --> 00:24:43,203 John jumped out of the car while I radioed in to say that we'd arrived 343 00:24:43,243 --> 00:24:46,163 and opened the front door to the house, you know, 344 00:24:46,203 --> 00:24:48,243 climbing over the burning veranda 345 00:24:48,283 --> 00:24:53,323 and there were a family of seven, two adults and five kids, 346 00:24:53,363 --> 00:24:55,483 huddled under a blanket in the lounge room 347 00:24:55,523 --> 00:24:58,483 while the room around them burnt. 348 00:25:03,683 --> 00:25:05,203 WOMAN: It was New Year's Eve 349 00:25:05,243 --> 00:25:07,683 and my daughter-in-law was at my house. 350 00:25:07,723 --> 00:25:10,083 We'd rang the police a couple of times 351 00:25:10,123 --> 00:25:12,683 and they had said to remain where we were. 352 00:25:12,723 --> 00:25:16,603 Unfortunately, the next minute, we had a fireball on our property 353 00:25:16,643 --> 00:25:19,483 and it just came and wrapped around the house. 354 00:25:22,403 --> 00:25:24,003 I knew we weren't getting out. 355 00:25:24,043 --> 00:25:25,843 There was nowhere to go. 356 00:25:25,883 --> 00:25:28,283 Two of my babies are struggling, 357 00:25:28,323 --> 00:25:32,163 two of my grandchildren are saying they're so hot in their belly. 358 00:25:32,203 --> 00:25:33,763 Gave them all a paper bag 359 00:25:33,803 --> 00:25:35,723 and told them if they breathe in the paper bag 360 00:25:35,763 --> 00:25:37,883 that the firemen will come - 361 00:25:37,923 --> 00:25:40,643 a promise I didn't know if I could keep. 362 00:25:43,283 --> 00:25:47,403 I think we had minutes, maybe seconds... 363 00:25:50,083 --> 00:25:54,163 and then Jess heard the firemen were at the door, you know, yelling out. 364 00:25:57,683 --> 00:26:00,163 NATHAN BARNDEN: We were trying to get these guys out of their house, 365 00:26:00,203 --> 00:26:02,363 across the burning yard and into our car. 366 00:26:04,483 --> 00:26:05,843 We got all of them in 367 00:26:05,883 --> 00:26:09,603 and had to turn around and try and drive back out through that fire. 368 00:26:13,163 --> 00:26:14,643 We managed to get them through, 369 00:26:14,683 --> 00:26:17,763 then we get back to the fire station and we sit the kids down 370 00:26:17,803 --> 00:26:19,923 and then we turn around and go back to the car 371 00:26:19,963 --> 00:26:23,043 and we go and do it all over again with a different family. 372 00:26:23,083 --> 00:26:26,363 And we do it three times over the next... 373 00:26:26,403 --> 00:26:27,923 I think it's the next hour 374 00:26:27,963 --> 00:26:31,163 and nearly die twice in the process. 375 00:26:43,963 --> 00:26:45,203 NATHAN BARNDEN: My brigade came 376 00:26:45,243 --> 00:26:47,563 and knocked on the window of the car that I was in 377 00:26:47,603 --> 00:26:51,683 and said, "You need to come... You need to come and see your dad." 378 00:26:51,723 --> 00:26:55,763 And my stomach just sank. 379 00:26:59,803 --> 00:27:02,963 And my dad looks at me and tells me that my... 380 00:27:03,003 --> 00:27:07,603 that my Uncle Robert and my cousin Patrick had died 381 00:27:07,643 --> 00:27:12,683 defending their home in Cobargo, just north of where we were. 382 00:27:12,723 --> 00:27:17,763 And I remember just looking at him and sort of saying, 383 00:27:17,803 --> 00:27:19,403 like, "What are you talking about?" 384 00:27:19,443 --> 00:27:23,363 And he... He just said, "They're dead." 385 00:27:23,403 --> 00:27:26,403 (SOLEMN MUSIC) 386 00:27:29,443 --> 00:27:31,483 It's like time just stopped. 387 00:27:34,203 --> 00:27:36,523 I was just on my knees in the middle of the road 388 00:27:36,563 --> 00:27:39,803 while this whole town burned around me, crying. 389 00:27:39,843 --> 00:27:43,043 I grabbed my dad and my brother and we walked back into the fire station 390 00:27:43,083 --> 00:27:46,043 and I walked past the people who I had saved 391 00:27:46,083 --> 00:27:50,563 to tell my mum that she's now lost her brother and her nephew... 392 00:27:53,123 --> 00:27:54,643 (CRIES) 393 00:27:57,323 --> 00:27:59,803 I don't even know how to describe... 394 00:28:01,243 --> 00:28:04,843 what it was like to tell her that. 395 00:28:14,203 --> 00:28:17,643 ROSEY BARNDEN: I was a Salway, the baby of the family. 396 00:28:23,003 --> 00:28:24,083 My family... 397 00:28:24,123 --> 00:28:26,203 A wonderful family. 398 00:28:28,843 --> 00:28:30,563 Just my world. 399 00:28:30,603 --> 00:28:32,803 (CRIES) 400 00:28:34,123 --> 00:28:37,683 I'll miss that time with Robert, that... 401 00:28:37,723 --> 00:28:41,803 yeah, having my big brother to talk to. 402 00:28:54,563 --> 00:28:57,443 NATHAN BARNDEN: Yeah, that was... that was day one for me. 403 00:28:57,483 --> 00:29:00,483 We lost hundreds of homes. 404 00:29:00,523 --> 00:29:03,163 Then I lost my family on day one. 405 00:29:04,203 --> 00:29:09,043 And then, for two months, every single day, I would put on a uniform 406 00:29:09,083 --> 00:29:13,603 and I would go out and I would do it again and again and again. 407 00:29:14,763 --> 00:29:16,963 And partially, it was out of guilt. 408 00:29:17,003 --> 00:29:20,003 (TENSE MUSIC) 409 00:29:35,363 --> 00:29:36,843 BRUCE BUCKLEY: The bushfires extended 410 00:29:36,883 --> 00:29:38,363 from the south-eastern parts of Queensland 411 00:29:38,403 --> 00:29:40,443 all the way down the coast into Tasmania. 412 00:29:41,763 --> 00:29:43,843 That's the equivalent of bushfires in North America 413 00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:45,203 going from Vancouver 414 00:29:45,243 --> 00:29:47,523 all the way down the west coast of the United States 415 00:29:47,563 --> 00:29:49,083 into the northern parts of Mexico. 416 00:30:01,763 --> 00:30:05,603 The smoke from Australia's bushfires circled the entire planet. 417 00:30:07,043 --> 00:30:10,643 In South America, the skies over central Chile went grey. 418 00:30:12,123 --> 00:30:15,443 It was no longer a bushfire that was burning in the wilderness 419 00:30:15,483 --> 00:30:17,603 somewhere in the central parts of Australia. 420 00:30:17,643 --> 00:30:19,883 It was there for all to see 421 00:30:19,923 --> 00:30:23,283 and it was there for month after month. 422 00:30:27,203 --> 00:30:32,323 We had over 200 consecutive days of bushfire emergencies declared. 423 00:30:34,323 --> 00:30:37,323 There were more than 3,000 homes destroyed 424 00:30:37,363 --> 00:30:42,763 and we had more than 18 million hectares of country burnt out. 425 00:30:43,763 --> 00:30:46,323 That's an area close to the size of the United kingdom. 426 00:31:08,723 --> 00:31:13,283 MAN: The silence. Just the quietness. 427 00:31:15,083 --> 00:31:18,603 No birds singing out, no... Nothing. 428 00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:20,523 Not even insects. 429 00:31:22,123 --> 00:31:25,723 When I looked at the soils, they were just baked, like pottery. 430 00:31:25,763 --> 00:31:27,483 Just hard. 431 00:31:28,643 --> 00:31:30,603 No vegetation. 432 00:31:30,643 --> 00:31:35,643 And I just felt empty inside. 433 00:31:39,043 --> 00:31:41,803 WOMAN: They estimate around 3 billion animals 434 00:31:41,843 --> 00:31:43,083 were lost in the fires. 435 00:31:45,363 --> 00:31:47,083 We did search and rescue. 436 00:31:47,123 --> 00:31:50,803 People were saying to us, "How many koalas did you see?" 437 00:31:50,843 --> 00:31:53,883 And we didn't see many because they'd been incinerated. 438 00:31:53,923 --> 00:31:56,603 They were gone. Just dust. 439 00:31:56,643 --> 00:31:58,283 (KOALA YELPS) 440 00:32:01,323 --> 00:32:06,563 I couldn't visualise how we could ever recover from such devastation. 441 00:32:23,363 --> 00:32:26,883 WOMAN: It's kind of stuff that you see from footage of World War II. 442 00:32:29,763 --> 00:32:31,603 But this is happening in our backyard. 443 00:32:35,923 --> 00:32:39,323 I remember just seeing people dazed. It was shock. 444 00:32:42,683 --> 00:32:46,483 But you also saw the absolute despair and adrenaline 445 00:32:46,523 --> 00:32:49,123 that someone was running on at that time. 446 00:32:57,723 --> 00:32:59,523 I slept with my bra on for two weeks 447 00:32:59,563 --> 00:33:01,723 'cause I was jumping up in the middle of the night. 448 00:33:03,403 --> 00:33:05,643 There was a lot of looters in town, 449 00:33:05,683 --> 00:33:08,683 stealing from people's half-burnt houses. 450 00:33:08,723 --> 00:33:12,443 We had a lot of tourists and they were told to leave 451 00:33:12,483 --> 00:33:16,283 and when they left, they took all of our food and petrol 452 00:33:16,323 --> 00:33:22,403 and we had no trucks coming in to refill our shelves. 453 00:33:25,283 --> 00:33:26,963 MAN: Because we were cut off from the world, 454 00:33:27,003 --> 00:33:28,563 people did feel we'd been abandoned. 455 00:33:29,563 --> 00:33:31,723 People, they might have a few possessions in their car 456 00:33:31,763 --> 00:33:33,883 and the clothes on their back - that's all they've got. 457 00:33:37,363 --> 00:33:39,443 We needed help and we needed it desperately. 458 00:33:48,323 --> 00:33:51,123 KYLIE WARREN: The whole RFS were under-resourced. 459 00:33:51,163 --> 00:33:52,883 We didn't have many trucks here, 460 00:33:52,923 --> 00:33:56,283 so everybody sprung into action and my husband was one of them. 461 00:33:58,523 --> 00:34:00,003 The hose is burnt! 462 00:34:00,043 --> 00:34:01,843 KYLIE WARREN: They were in amongst it. 463 00:34:03,003 --> 00:34:05,723 They did as much as a firefighter could without a truck. 464 00:34:05,763 --> 00:34:08,483 (WOMAN AND MAN CALL OUT) 465 00:34:08,523 --> 00:34:11,123 You know, turning off gas bubbles and jumping fences 466 00:34:11,163 --> 00:34:15,083 and putting verandas out and putting gardens out. 467 00:34:15,123 --> 00:34:17,003 And they took control. 468 00:34:17,043 --> 00:34:19,203 They were ordering people around. 469 00:34:19,243 --> 00:34:21,083 And they were, like, "Are you guys firefighters?" 470 00:34:21,123 --> 00:34:23,403 And they go, "No." (LAUGHS) "We're just doing what we can." 471 00:34:25,883 --> 00:34:28,163 PAULA ZAJA: In the back of my head, I was thinking, literally, 472 00:34:28,203 --> 00:34:30,123 I couldn't fight a fire if it came through here. 473 00:34:30,163 --> 00:34:31,523 There's no chance. 474 00:34:31,563 --> 00:34:34,483 I'm sitting there at home, going, "What good am I here? 475 00:34:34,523 --> 00:34:36,163 "What can we do? What can we do?" 476 00:34:38,763 --> 00:34:40,883 So I just put out this call on Facebook 477 00:34:40,923 --> 00:34:43,523 and it just started, this effect... 478 00:34:51,683 --> 00:34:53,443 I couldn't even get through my front door 479 00:34:53,483 --> 00:34:55,363 with the amount of donations that were dumped there. 480 00:34:55,403 --> 00:34:57,123 But what a beautiful problem to have, 481 00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:59,643 to have so many people just go, "We don't know how to help. 482 00:34:59,683 --> 00:35:02,443 "Just let us know what you need and we'll get it to you." 483 00:35:02,483 --> 00:35:05,483 We had - get this - groups of volunteers 484 00:35:05,523 --> 00:35:09,123 that were providing food for our normal volunteers 485 00:35:09,163 --> 00:35:11,443 that were providing food for our firefighters. 486 00:35:11,483 --> 00:35:12,603 (PHONE VIBRATES) 487 00:35:12,643 --> 00:35:15,243 DAVE ALLEN: The phone calls I took were just quite unbelievable. 488 00:35:15,283 --> 00:35:19,083 From all around Australia, people just loading up generators, fuel, 489 00:35:19,123 --> 00:35:22,163 groceries, supplies, water, whatever they had. 490 00:35:22,203 --> 00:35:25,203 I became a bit of a contact point 491 00:35:25,243 --> 00:35:28,323 and for days and days and days, the phone wouldn't stop. 492 00:35:28,363 --> 00:35:29,683 (PHONE VIBRATES) 493 00:35:29,723 --> 00:35:31,803 Almost got to the stage I threw it in the river 494 00:35:31,843 --> 00:35:33,923 but I just knew it was important to keep it on 495 00:35:33,963 --> 00:35:35,483 and important to keep answering it because... 496 00:35:35,523 --> 00:35:37,283 Mmm. 497 00:35:39,043 --> 00:35:43,643 SUE ASHTON: I've been amazed at the kindness and thoughtfulness 498 00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:45,083 of so many people. 499 00:35:45,123 --> 00:35:47,163 Our website crashed. 500 00:35:47,203 --> 00:35:50,803 It couldn't handle the volume of donations we were getting through. 501 00:35:52,883 --> 00:35:54,963 KYLIE WARREN: People saw an opening of how they could help 502 00:35:55,003 --> 00:35:56,003 and just helped. 503 00:35:56,043 --> 00:35:57,483 (HORN HONKS) 504 00:35:57,523 --> 00:36:01,723 And there was more heroes in plain clothing than there was in uniform 505 00:36:01,763 --> 00:36:03,083 and that was just... 506 00:36:07,843 --> 00:36:09,123 Sorry. 507 00:36:09,163 --> 00:36:11,323 I don't know why I'm crying. Stupid. 508 00:36:13,043 --> 00:36:15,603 It just felt... 509 00:36:17,203 --> 00:36:18,563 We felt cared about. 510 00:36:18,603 --> 00:36:20,803 (CHEERING) 511 00:36:20,843 --> 00:36:24,723 Our volunteers across this entire country, 512 00:36:24,763 --> 00:36:29,323 they are the ones who have saved us. 513 00:36:29,363 --> 00:36:36,003 And I will speak now very confidently on behalf of a nation 514 00:36:36,043 --> 00:36:40,963 when I say to those volunteers thank you! 515 00:36:41,003 --> 00:36:45,723 (CHEERING) Thank you! Thank you! 516 00:36:49,123 --> 00:36:51,523 PAULA ZAJA: It takes crisis to remember we're all human, 517 00:36:51,563 --> 00:36:53,643 to see people coming together 518 00:36:53,683 --> 00:36:56,883 for no other reason but to, you know, keep us going. 519 00:36:56,923 --> 00:36:59,283 That was quite profound. 520 00:37:05,003 --> 00:37:08,003 (THUNDER RUMBLES) (ROUSING MUSIC) 521 00:37:24,963 --> 00:37:29,363 Yes! Yeah, bring it on! 522 00:37:33,003 --> 00:37:35,763 (LAUGHTER) 523 00:38:03,443 --> 00:38:06,443 (RAIN FALLS) 524 00:38:24,243 --> 00:38:27,283 NATHAN BARNDEN: It's a really funny thing to try and explain 525 00:38:27,323 --> 00:38:29,723 because you think they'd be happy that it rained 526 00:38:29,763 --> 00:38:31,563 and that the fires were out... 527 00:38:33,843 --> 00:38:35,483 Like, I'm obviously happy about that 528 00:38:35,523 --> 00:38:37,323 because there was no threat to the community 529 00:38:37,363 --> 00:38:38,683 and there was nothing like that 530 00:38:38,723 --> 00:38:41,243 but for months, you know, I went out every day firefighting 531 00:38:41,283 --> 00:38:42,603 because it gave me a purpose 532 00:38:42,643 --> 00:38:44,803 and then it just ended. 533 00:38:44,843 --> 00:38:47,723 Just one day, we woke up and it was over. 534 00:38:51,243 --> 00:38:56,443 All of the emotion, all of the fear and the guilt... 535 00:38:57,443 --> 00:39:00,443 all of that started coming out really hard. 536 00:39:02,683 --> 00:39:06,163 I retreated from who I was and I stepped away from my family 537 00:39:06,203 --> 00:39:07,883 and I struggled. 538 00:39:08,883 --> 00:39:11,323 I didn't know who I was anymore. 539 00:39:14,963 --> 00:39:16,603 I got into my own head 540 00:39:16,643 --> 00:39:19,243 that if I wasn't good enough to save my own family, 541 00:39:19,283 --> 00:39:22,363 how was I ever good enough to help anyone else's? 542 00:39:25,043 --> 00:39:27,643 Firefighting is easy. 543 00:39:27,683 --> 00:39:31,003 Dealing with the mental health aspects after it is not. 544 00:39:57,163 --> 00:39:59,483 BRENDON O'CONNOR: I'm still finding it very hard to settle, 545 00:39:59,523 --> 00:40:01,883 as a lot of the firefighters are. 546 00:40:02,963 --> 00:40:07,803 I do find it, yeah, quite difficult to...I guess, to fully relax 547 00:40:07,843 --> 00:40:09,483 when I'm in the village, 548 00:40:09,523 --> 00:40:12,963 so it's been a very difficult transition. 549 00:40:19,283 --> 00:40:22,243 Due to the hernias that I got during the fires, 550 00:40:22,283 --> 00:40:24,403 I've still not been back to work. 551 00:40:24,443 --> 00:40:27,003 It's been quite difficult, yeah, to be able to pay the bills 552 00:40:27,043 --> 00:40:29,163 and keep everything going forward. 553 00:40:30,323 --> 00:40:34,083 It's definitely put strain on relationships. 554 00:40:35,123 --> 00:40:38,283 Janet and I, we've been married for 29 years. 555 00:40:39,323 --> 00:40:40,483 During the fires, 556 00:40:40,523 --> 00:40:44,163 I was lucky if I was getting one and a half to two hours sleep a day. 557 00:40:44,203 --> 00:40:46,283 The rest of the time, I was over at the station, 558 00:40:46,323 --> 00:40:49,643 so I was averaging, you know, 20, 22 hours 559 00:40:49,683 --> 00:40:53,603 and I guess doing this probably took its toll on her, I think. 560 00:40:53,643 --> 00:40:54,803 Yeah. 561 00:40:54,843 --> 00:40:58,043 So, unfortunately, yeah, Janet decided that she, yeah... 562 00:40:58,083 --> 00:41:01,043 didn't want to be a part of our life anymore, so... 563 00:41:01,083 --> 00:41:03,363 But it is what it is. 564 00:41:10,323 --> 00:41:13,683 When the bushfire volunteers, when they pack up and go home, 565 00:41:13,723 --> 00:41:16,003 that's the beginning of the recovery. 566 00:41:16,043 --> 00:41:17,643 It's not the end of the situation. 567 00:41:20,083 --> 00:41:23,763 The emergency didn't stop the day the rains came. 568 00:41:23,803 --> 00:41:26,643 A different sort of emergency took over. 569 00:41:46,443 --> 00:41:50,163 MAN: I'm a beef and sheep farmer at Wandella-Cobargo. 570 00:41:51,283 --> 00:41:54,443 I'm fifth generation. The kids are sixth generation. 571 00:41:54,483 --> 00:41:56,483 Grandkids are seventh generation. 572 00:41:56,523 --> 00:42:01,323 You know, we've been here for so long, it's hard to explain to anyone 573 00:42:01,363 --> 00:42:05,443 the feeling you have for the land you love. 574 00:42:09,203 --> 00:42:13,843 NATHAN BARNDEN: Warren Salway's my uncle, so he's my mum's brother. 575 00:42:13,883 --> 00:42:19,843 I know their experiences were tough and I know we nearly lost him too. 576 00:42:23,283 --> 00:42:25,523 WARREN SALWAY: Robert was me big brother. 577 00:42:25,563 --> 00:42:28,563 Patrick was my nephew. 578 00:42:30,083 --> 00:42:31,763 They were only 30m from their house 579 00:42:31,803 --> 00:42:34,683 and they got caught in a fireball. 580 00:42:38,523 --> 00:42:42,083 I think we all thought that we would stop the fire 581 00:42:42,123 --> 00:42:45,323 when it come from the bush to the open country 582 00:42:45,363 --> 00:42:48,763 but there was no way in the world we were gonna pull it up. 583 00:42:48,803 --> 00:42:50,723 Like, it was a tornado coming at us. 584 00:42:53,163 --> 00:42:55,363 WOMAN: Like, it was still dark. You couldn't see. 585 00:42:55,403 --> 00:42:57,963 But Warren could hear cattle bellowing 586 00:42:58,003 --> 00:43:01,723 and he thought, "Thank goodness, you know, there's some alive." 587 00:43:01,763 --> 00:43:05,203 But when it come daylight, they were that badly burnt. 588 00:43:11,003 --> 00:43:15,563 WARREN SALWAY: We had to probably put down about 45 cows 589 00:43:15,603 --> 00:43:17,763 'cause you can't let animals suffer. 590 00:43:20,203 --> 00:43:24,403 We lost 150 head of cattle, 80 sheep, 591 00:43:24,443 --> 00:43:29,563 24km of fencing, five sheds, two houses. 592 00:43:29,603 --> 00:43:33,323 There's 30 years of work just gone in half an hour. 593 00:43:33,363 --> 00:43:36,283 So it's a massive blow. 594 00:43:40,923 --> 00:43:44,763 I was pretty crook. 595 00:43:44,803 --> 00:43:47,963 Like, I'd gone from 19 days that I hadn't stopped... 596 00:43:50,203 --> 00:43:52,843 I was getting up at 3:00 in the morning. 597 00:43:55,363 --> 00:43:57,083 I thought it was getting on top of me 598 00:43:57,123 --> 00:44:01,083 and I said to Helen, "I've got to go and get some help." 599 00:44:22,523 --> 00:44:26,683 The fires were like nothing that I had ever experienced before. 600 00:44:26,723 --> 00:44:29,763 It's not really something that you think about, living in the UK. 601 00:44:29,803 --> 00:44:34,643 I was expecting to just have a bit of a holiday, have a bit of a jolly 602 00:44:34,683 --> 00:44:38,923 and suddenly I went from being, like, a 24-year-old on holiday 603 00:44:38,963 --> 00:44:41,443 to a refugee, camping out on the beach. 604 00:44:48,083 --> 00:44:51,283 It was like walking into an apocalypse. 605 00:44:53,083 --> 00:44:57,403 This family, total strangers, never met them before in my life, 606 00:44:57,443 --> 00:45:00,003 but they saw us in the tents with all the animals 607 00:45:00,043 --> 00:45:02,523 because my aunt had brought horses down as well 608 00:45:02,563 --> 00:45:04,963 and they said, "You can't camp in this. 609 00:45:05,003 --> 00:45:07,603 "We've got a guestroom. You can come stay. 610 00:45:07,643 --> 00:45:09,523 "You can bring the cats, you can bring the horses." 611 00:45:11,123 --> 00:45:12,563 It blew my mind. 612 00:45:12,603 --> 00:45:15,563 They didn't know us at all and they just let us take over their home. 613 00:45:15,603 --> 00:45:18,003 They cooked us dinner, breakfast. 614 00:45:18,043 --> 00:45:21,763 I could not believe how kindly we were treated. 615 00:45:23,363 --> 00:45:27,483 I was so overwhelmed by the kindness that I saw 616 00:45:27,523 --> 00:45:30,203 that I knew I had to give back. 617 00:45:37,083 --> 00:45:38,603 BlazeAid is a charity 618 00:45:38,643 --> 00:45:41,323 that comes into communities after natural disasters 619 00:45:41,363 --> 00:45:43,163 and helps them to rebuild. 620 00:45:43,203 --> 00:45:46,563 The primary work that we do is fencing. 621 00:45:48,443 --> 00:45:50,723 A bunch of backpackers camped up the road 622 00:45:50,763 --> 00:45:52,723 in a community that's been through a lot 623 00:45:52,763 --> 00:45:53,803 and is so traumatised, 624 00:45:53,843 --> 00:45:59,363 that could really go the wrong way but everyone's been so kind to us. 625 00:45:59,403 --> 00:46:00,843 More? 626 00:46:00,883 --> 00:46:03,083 That's all I want. 627 00:46:03,123 --> 00:46:05,323 Alright. Good job. 628 00:46:05,363 --> 00:46:08,563 I've got five wires to put on this. 629 00:46:08,603 --> 00:46:10,323 I've got to walk this five times, 630 00:46:10,363 --> 00:46:11,883 whereas BlazeAid, there's five people here, 631 00:46:11,923 --> 00:46:16,003 so it makes, yeah, a fifth of your work, sort of thing. 632 00:46:16,043 --> 00:46:19,123 HELEN SALWAY: It's been great for Warren with his mental state. 633 00:46:19,163 --> 00:46:21,803 You know, they're all from overseas. 634 00:46:21,843 --> 00:46:24,403 He's teaching them a lot of Aussie slang. 635 00:46:26,243 --> 00:46:27,603 My friends back home 636 00:46:27,643 --> 00:46:29,963 now need me re-translate sentences that I say to them. 637 00:46:31,203 --> 00:46:34,203 "I'm just popping down the bottlo or going to the servo." 638 00:46:35,443 --> 00:46:37,683 WARREN SALWAY: The young people I've had here have been terrific. 639 00:46:37,723 --> 00:46:40,723 Oh... I've told them about what happened 640 00:46:40,763 --> 00:46:44,283 and they've helped me by telling me what they've done in their life, 641 00:46:44,323 --> 00:46:46,483 so, yeah, it's been good. 642 00:46:46,523 --> 00:46:47,723 A good exchange. 643 00:46:47,763 --> 00:46:52,683 Only 9km. But I can see the end. (LAUGHS) 644 00:46:54,083 --> 00:46:58,003 EMILY COPLEY-MOORBY: There are so many farms that we, BlazeAid, 645 00:46:58,043 --> 00:46:59,603 still haven't been able to get to 646 00:46:59,643 --> 00:47:03,123 because there is so much work to do and there is so much recovery left. 647 00:47:09,323 --> 00:47:11,443 DAVE ALLEN: We had people coming down in droves 648 00:47:11,483 --> 00:47:12,923 to help people to clean up, 649 00:47:12,963 --> 00:47:15,643 to re-fence, to just get their lives back in order 650 00:47:15,683 --> 00:47:17,003 and the place was sort of buzzing. 651 00:47:21,643 --> 00:47:25,883 I was conscious that we had to get the pub back open for people. 652 00:47:25,923 --> 00:47:29,323 So many people had lost everything and they needed somewhere to come 653 00:47:29,363 --> 00:47:31,203 and to talk and to be with their friends 654 00:47:31,243 --> 00:47:33,163 and just try and heal each other. 655 00:47:33,203 --> 00:47:35,683 We had the Red Cross here, we had the local council, 656 00:47:35,723 --> 00:47:37,243 we had various insurers. 657 00:47:37,283 --> 00:47:38,643 It became a one-stop shop. 658 00:47:38,683 --> 00:47:40,763 People would come in, get their insurance claims assessed, 659 00:47:40,803 --> 00:47:43,323 talk to the local council, what they needed, etc, etc 660 00:47:43,363 --> 00:47:47,403 and just go bang, bang, bang, bang and, you know, get sorted out. 661 00:47:47,443 --> 00:47:49,963 And, yeah, the coronavirus pandemic, 662 00:47:50,003 --> 00:47:51,563 that just stopped all that in its tracks. 663 00:47:58,283 --> 00:48:00,923 EMILY COPLEY-MOORBY: The BlazeAid camp had to shut down. 664 00:48:00,963 --> 00:48:05,363 I understand it with COVID because it's to keep people safe. 665 00:48:05,403 --> 00:48:07,243 It just does get really frustrating 666 00:48:07,283 --> 00:48:09,723 when you have to turn away willing volunteers. 667 00:48:09,763 --> 00:48:11,683 (RINGING TONE) 668 00:48:13,443 --> 00:48:15,203 MAN: (ON PHONE) Hello. WALTER SALWAY: Hey, Manu. 669 00:48:15,243 --> 00:48:17,243 How are you? Good. All good. How are you? 670 00:48:17,283 --> 00:48:19,883 Alright, mate. Alright. Only just got your message! 671 00:48:19,923 --> 00:48:22,083 Yeah, I'm sorry, I was a bit confused but... 672 00:48:22,123 --> 00:48:25,203 That's a bugger. Like, all your team's been stood down, have they? 673 00:48:25,243 --> 00:48:29,563 All of the young guys here, like, 35 people, 674 00:48:29,603 --> 00:48:32,643 are having a day off today because of this. 675 00:48:32,683 --> 00:48:34,123 Yeah. OK. See you later. 676 00:48:34,163 --> 00:48:35,323 Bye. Bye. 677 00:48:35,363 --> 00:48:38,923 By the sound of it, all their crews have been stood down. 678 00:48:38,963 --> 00:48:40,123 It's just ridiculous. 679 00:48:40,163 --> 00:48:44,283 Like, you've got great young people that want to help you and they can't. 680 00:48:44,323 --> 00:48:45,803 (LAUGHS) 681 00:48:51,323 --> 00:48:53,203 JOHN BROGDEN: Many of those areas had been in drought, 682 00:48:53,243 --> 00:48:56,803 then they were hit by fires and then, of course, COVID, 683 00:48:56,843 --> 00:48:59,883 so this year's been not just a double whammy for some people 684 00:48:59,923 --> 00:49:01,043 but a triple whammy. 685 00:49:05,003 --> 00:49:07,083 We have a view in Australia that farmers are stoic. 686 00:49:07,123 --> 00:49:08,843 You know, they can get through the tough times, 687 00:49:08,883 --> 00:49:11,003 they can get through droughts, they can get through fires 688 00:49:11,043 --> 00:49:13,563 but, you know, we're all human - there's only so much we can take. 689 00:49:15,163 --> 00:49:17,643 Got the gloves on, dear. (HELEN LAUGHS) 690 00:49:17,683 --> 00:49:19,763 Well, just to pull the wire out 691 00:49:19,803 --> 00:49:21,803 'cause it makes your fingers a bit sore. 692 00:49:24,683 --> 00:49:26,403 WARREN SALWAY: She's my best friend. 693 00:49:27,483 --> 00:49:32,403 She's really this hand and that hand all put together. 694 00:49:35,563 --> 00:49:37,123 She gives me a lot of strength. 695 00:49:39,043 --> 00:49:41,683 HELEN SALWAY: He just needs to try to have a bit of a break. 696 00:49:41,723 --> 00:49:45,323 Like, I'm worried a little bit about his emotional state and that, 697 00:49:45,363 --> 00:49:46,603 you know, so... 698 00:49:46,643 --> 00:49:49,563 He was sort of winding down the last couple of years 699 00:49:49,603 --> 00:49:52,363 'cause my health hasn't been good, so... 700 00:49:52,403 --> 00:49:55,963 Got a non-curable blood cancer, like, multiple myeloma. 701 00:49:56,003 --> 00:50:01,403 Then you get a disaster like this and it's just created a lot of work 702 00:50:01,443 --> 00:50:04,923 and, yeah, financial burden, sort of thing. 703 00:50:04,963 --> 00:50:07,323 So, yeah. 704 00:50:12,123 --> 00:50:15,643 PAULA ZAJA: The impacts of any crisis is long-term. 705 00:50:15,683 --> 00:50:18,723 It's not that first few months but that's when the media's there, 706 00:50:18,763 --> 00:50:20,243 that's when everyone puts attention in. 707 00:50:20,283 --> 00:50:22,203 That's what everyone feels good about, you know, helping. 708 00:50:22,243 --> 00:50:23,723 And then the next crisis will come 709 00:50:23,763 --> 00:50:25,323 and everyone leaves and the town goes. 710 00:50:28,523 --> 00:50:30,363 DAVE ALLEN: Yeah, Red Cross, Salvation Army, 711 00:50:30,403 --> 00:50:31,723 those charities were here 712 00:50:31,763 --> 00:50:34,603 and they were really good in providing counselling for people 713 00:50:34,643 --> 00:50:37,643 but, you know, they're not here in Cobargo anymore. 714 00:50:39,363 --> 00:50:41,803 People's focus changed and people got to move on. 715 00:50:43,003 --> 00:50:44,803 You know, everything comes to an end 716 00:50:44,843 --> 00:50:47,483 and people have got a lot on their plate, absolutely. 717 00:50:47,523 --> 00:50:51,363 But we still have people living rough. 718 00:50:51,403 --> 00:50:55,203 Like, we've had 1,000 homes been lost in this area. 719 00:50:55,243 --> 00:50:57,043 How long is that going to take to rebuild? 720 00:51:10,363 --> 00:51:13,203 WOMAN: Our old home here, my husband and I built it 721 00:51:13,243 --> 00:51:17,843 and we had a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful big stone chimney. 722 00:51:18,843 --> 00:51:23,123 We found all these really old, old red bricks 723 00:51:23,163 --> 00:51:27,563 and it was just...mmm, to die for. 724 00:51:27,603 --> 00:51:29,843 And after the fire, 725 00:51:29,883 --> 00:51:34,363 that chimney was still standing and that was fantastic. 726 00:51:35,883 --> 00:51:39,283 But we were told because it was on the foundations of the house... 727 00:51:40,923 --> 00:51:42,883 it had to go. 728 00:51:42,923 --> 00:51:47,043 And I no sooner stepped out to look to see the Kato hit it, 729 00:51:47,083 --> 00:51:48,923 bang, and that was the end of that. 730 00:51:48,963 --> 00:51:50,203 And that's... 731 00:51:50,243 --> 00:51:51,683 Mmm. Yeah. 732 00:51:51,723 --> 00:51:56,403 I think I cried for about four or five hours 733 00:51:56,443 --> 00:51:58,763 because the chimney was... 734 00:51:58,803 --> 00:52:02,043 The old house, it was all that was left of it, you know. 735 00:52:03,363 --> 00:52:06,643 And, you know, you've just got to move on. 736 00:52:16,683 --> 00:52:20,003 We've whacked up an old shack out of iron, 737 00:52:20,043 --> 00:52:21,603 old iron that didn't get burnt. 738 00:52:22,803 --> 00:52:26,043 It gets very cold here. Big frosts. 739 00:52:26,083 --> 00:52:28,923 I mean, we're not that far from the snowfields. (LAUGHS) 740 00:52:34,123 --> 00:52:35,563 DAVE ALLEN: We're in winter now 741 00:52:35,603 --> 00:52:39,043 and for people to still be living in tents and old second-hand caravans 742 00:52:39,083 --> 00:52:40,403 that are freezing at night, 743 00:52:40,443 --> 00:52:41,643 to me, it's ridiculous. 744 00:52:43,243 --> 00:52:45,563 You know, we had all this money donated, 745 00:52:45,603 --> 00:52:49,283 you know, we had charity cricket matches, we had celebrity concerts. 746 00:52:49,323 --> 00:52:51,723 We just lack that coordination, that someone... 747 00:52:51,763 --> 00:52:53,483 to tie the various levels of government, 748 00:52:53,523 --> 00:52:56,243 all the charity organisations, all the community groups, 749 00:52:56,283 --> 00:52:58,923 tie all those strings together and get it really focused 750 00:52:58,963 --> 00:53:00,283 and really going forward 751 00:53:00,323 --> 00:53:02,403 because sometimes it feels like it's just going sideways. 752 00:53:10,563 --> 00:53:12,083 JUSTIN: Oh... 753 00:53:16,803 --> 00:53:18,523 Are you getting cold again? Mmm? 754 00:53:18,563 --> 00:53:19,883 Are you cold again? 755 00:53:19,923 --> 00:53:21,283 It's fine. 756 00:53:21,323 --> 00:53:23,443 I've got my hot chocolate now. Oh. 757 00:53:24,843 --> 00:53:27,403 JUSTIN KAM: When we came here 20 years ago, 758 00:53:27,443 --> 00:53:30,923 there was not much there, just a lot of shrub. 759 00:53:30,963 --> 00:53:35,563 HELENA KAM: We put up a tent, just to see what the land was all about. 760 00:53:36,723 --> 00:53:39,763 I think we lived in that tent for about 18 months 761 00:53:39,803 --> 00:53:41,843 and I think that's where Gabriel came from. 762 00:53:41,883 --> 00:53:43,843 (BOTH LAUGH) 763 00:53:45,123 --> 00:53:46,563 The locals that were here, 764 00:53:46,603 --> 00:53:48,683 we found out that they actually ran a book on us 765 00:53:48,723 --> 00:53:50,923 as to how long we would actually last in the village, 766 00:53:50,963 --> 00:53:52,403 or in a tent, for that matter. 767 00:53:52,443 --> 00:53:54,283 We asked, "Well, how much did you lose?" 768 00:53:54,323 --> 00:53:58,123 And the guy went and said, "Oh, your resilient bastards." 769 00:53:58,163 --> 00:53:59,683 (BOTH LAUGH) 770 00:54:03,963 --> 00:54:07,403 The fires burnt our home on 21 December. 771 00:54:07,443 --> 00:54:11,403 We managed to finally get electricity as of yesterday. 772 00:54:11,443 --> 00:54:15,443 Yeah, it's 30 August now, so, you know, eight months. 773 00:54:19,563 --> 00:54:22,363 They deliberately call it recovery. 774 00:54:22,403 --> 00:54:23,963 We were in survival mode. 775 00:54:29,363 --> 00:54:35,043 Part of rebuilding, we had to declare a 54m radius of bushland. 776 00:54:35,083 --> 00:54:37,123 Which is basically a suburban block. 777 00:54:37,163 --> 00:54:39,203 (CHAINSAW WHINES) 778 00:54:39,243 --> 00:54:42,843 We work on the property until sundown. That's every day. 779 00:54:42,883 --> 00:54:46,683 We actually haven't stopped from the time of the fires. 780 00:54:46,723 --> 00:54:48,083 It's just been constant. 781 00:54:48,123 --> 00:54:50,563 (CHAINSAW WHINES) 782 00:54:50,603 --> 00:54:52,123 The work that needs to be done 783 00:54:52,163 --> 00:54:54,683 is not something 50, 60-year-olds do anymore. 784 00:54:54,723 --> 00:54:58,123 You feel the mornings in winter, you feel the cold 785 00:54:58,163 --> 00:55:01,043 and then, at the end of the day, you're a ball of pain. 786 00:55:03,443 --> 00:55:05,643 GABRIEL KAM: Oh, I definitely worry for my parents. 787 00:55:05,683 --> 00:55:07,403 They're burning themselves out 788 00:55:07,443 --> 00:55:09,843 and they're going to hurt themselves really badly 789 00:55:09,883 --> 00:55:12,883 and I don't know if I'll be there to help 790 00:55:12,923 --> 00:55:16,443 and even if I am there, what I can do to help. 791 00:55:16,483 --> 00:55:18,963 So it's very worrying. 792 00:55:19,003 --> 00:55:22,003 (CHAINSAW WHINES) 793 00:55:25,003 --> 00:55:27,683 HELENA KAM: For the first time in our lives, 794 00:55:27,723 --> 00:55:32,563 we actually needed help because we had nowhere else to turn. 795 00:55:34,563 --> 00:55:38,563 PAULA ZAJA: Helena and Justin find it very hard to ask for help. 796 00:55:38,603 --> 00:55:41,243 I remember how hard it was for Helena to have people on her block. 797 00:55:41,283 --> 00:55:44,243 You know, "This was my house. This is no longer my house. 798 00:55:44,283 --> 00:55:46,243 "I'm proud person and I have nothing." 799 00:55:46,283 --> 00:55:50,563 That's where the shame comes up and it makes it so hard to ask for help. 800 00:55:52,243 --> 00:55:56,003 I could see it because I've lived it, you know, that you put on that front 801 00:55:56,043 --> 00:55:58,843 and "I'm OK, I'm OK, I'm OK" but you know you're not deep down. 802 00:56:00,323 --> 00:56:04,523 I think from my own personal story is why I do what I do. 803 00:56:07,563 --> 00:56:10,043 After choosing to leave domestic violence, 804 00:56:10,083 --> 00:56:13,163 I found myself in a situation where it was just so hard to manage. 805 00:56:15,723 --> 00:56:18,723 I never forget the nights when it was hard to feed the kids 806 00:56:18,763 --> 00:56:20,803 and they're eating my portion of dinner 807 00:56:20,843 --> 00:56:23,483 and I'm telling them that I had, you know, a big lunch at work 808 00:56:23,523 --> 00:56:25,523 and you're going to bed hungry. 809 00:56:25,563 --> 00:56:27,723 Those things are quite pivotal. 810 00:56:27,763 --> 00:56:30,883 Having that roof over your head, having food, 811 00:56:30,923 --> 00:56:33,243 they are basic human needs. 812 00:56:33,283 --> 00:56:35,323 I can't rebuild those houses, 813 00:56:35,363 --> 00:56:38,363 I can't take away all the issues they're gonna have with rebuilding 814 00:56:38,403 --> 00:56:40,083 but I can put food on their tables. 815 00:56:43,523 --> 00:56:46,763 I run a food rescue service called Our Community Pantry. 816 00:56:46,803 --> 00:56:49,723 We're working with those that have been fire-affected. 817 00:56:49,763 --> 00:56:52,003 They can get their food for free. 818 00:56:52,043 --> 00:56:55,803 We're supporting over 4,000 families, which is pretty awesome. 819 00:56:59,003 --> 00:57:00,443 Most people see the big project 820 00:57:00,483 --> 00:57:02,803 but they don't see all the hands that go into 821 00:57:02,843 --> 00:57:05,243 putting the labels on the food, you know, packing the bags. 822 00:57:06,643 --> 00:57:09,443 You couldn't have that project without all the help behind it. 823 00:57:10,963 --> 00:57:13,323 WOMAN: I volunteer at Pantry most Tuesdays 824 00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:15,403 and then the occasional Fridays. 825 00:57:15,443 --> 00:57:18,243 While my house burnt down on 21 December, 826 00:57:18,283 --> 00:57:20,203 I was here on the 23rd making hampers. 827 00:57:21,523 --> 00:57:23,483 To see Victoria at a point where she's actually saying 828 00:57:23,523 --> 00:57:25,923 "I'm gonna help other people," 829 00:57:25,963 --> 00:57:28,283 it says an awful amount about someone. 830 00:57:29,603 --> 00:57:32,123 I was absolutely in shock and cried for a long time 831 00:57:32,163 --> 00:57:36,083 but this filled me back up, I guess, with hope. 832 00:57:37,523 --> 00:57:40,443 And that's why I do it. It was certainly not for the pay. 833 00:57:40,483 --> 00:57:43,203 (LAUGHS) Yeah, it's just because it's a really nice feeling 834 00:57:43,243 --> 00:57:44,683 to help others. 835 00:57:49,203 --> 00:57:52,323 MAN: This country has suffered drought, it's now suffered fire 836 00:57:52,363 --> 00:57:55,203 and most of these people have a minimum of two years 837 00:57:55,243 --> 00:57:56,923 before they get to rebuild 838 00:57:56,963 --> 00:57:59,603 and we can't let these people disappear from our mind's eye 839 00:57:59,643 --> 00:58:00,643 as we go forward. 840 00:58:03,283 --> 00:58:06,483 We are delivering up to 200 temporary recovery pods 841 00:58:06,523 --> 00:58:08,523 for people that have lost their houses. 842 00:58:09,843 --> 00:58:13,003 The idea with building these is that they're temporary for two years 843 00:58:13,043 --> 00:58:16,603 and people have the opportunity during those two years to rebuild, 844 00:58:16,643 --> 00:58:18,723 get their development authorities in place. 845 00:58:20,083 --> 00:58:23,643 But going forward, we'll relocate these to a central point 846 00:58:23,683 --> 00:58:26,603 and have them ready to roll out immediately upon another disaster, 847 00:58:26,643 --> 00:58:29,363 rather than having to start from scratch again. 848 00:58:29,403 --> 00:58:33,323 So, we're building up the capital for resilience 849 00:58:33,363 --> 00:58:34,723 in response to the fires. 850 00:58:37,323 --> 00:58:40,323 BARBARA STEWART: A pod, you walk in, they've got a little shower recess, 851 00:58:40,363 --> 00:58:42,123 a toilet and a basin 852 00:58:42,163 --> 00:58:43,963 and then they've got, like, little bunkbeds. 853 00:58:45,243 --> 00:58:46,443 It was really quite funny. 854 00:58:46,483 --> 00:58:52,643 We heard about this 80-odd-year-old German guy that lives down in Cobargo 855 00:58:52,683 --> 00:58:54,843 and he went like this to the bed and he said, 856 00:58:54,883 --> 00:58:58,043 "Oh, they're very solid, the beds." 857 00:58:58,083 --> 00:59:01,563 And the guy said, "Oh, yeah." He said, "They're very solid." 858 00:59:01,603 --> 00:59:05,363 He said, "I mean really solid," the old bloke said. 859 00:59:05,403 --> 00:59:07,403 And they said, "Yes, it's very, very solid." 860 00:59:07,443 --> 00:59:09,883 He said, "We've never known them to collapse at all." 861 00:59:09,923 --> 00:59:12,483 He said, "But are they any good for bonking in?" 862 00:59:12,523 --> 00:59:14,123 (LAUGHS) 863 00:59:15,443 --> 00:59:17,403 And the guy said, "For what?" 864 00:59:17,443 --> 00:59:21,083 And he said, "You know, bonking in. Can you bonk on these beds?" 865 00:59:21,123 --> 00:59:24,603 And he said, "I don't know. We've never tried it." (LAUGHS) 866 00:59:24,643 --> 00:59:25,643 So... 867 00:59:25,683 --> 00:59:28,083 So, yeah, you've gotta have a sense of humour 868 00:59:28,123 --> 00:59:31,003 and this old chappy... life wasn't over for him. 869 00:59:31,043 --> 00:59:32,723 (LAUGHS) 870 00:59:32,763 --> 00:59:34,763 He's got a lot to look forward to. 871 00:59:41,843 --> 00:59:43,563 MAN: Hello. Hello. 872 00:59:43,603 --> 00:59:45,003 How you going? 873 00:59:45,043 --> 00:59:46,123 I don't know. 874 00:59:47,203 --> 00:59:48,723 Not bad, is it? (DOG BARKS) 875 00:59:51,123 --> 00:59:53,763 You like it? It's absolutely beautiful. 876 00:59:59,763 --> 01:00:00,963 For heaven's sake... 877 01:00:03,643 --> 01:00:05,323 There's two top bunks there that fold down. 878 01:00:05,363 --> 01:00:07,883 They're just left up for now but if you want to... 879 01:00:07,923 --> 01:00:10,563 put up shelving or anything, you can put them down. 880 01:00:10,603 --> 01:00:12,323 They've got rails there that can go in... 881 01:00:12,363 --> 01:00:14,083 Unbelievable. ..and a ladder up the back. 882 01:00:15,123 --> 01:00:18,203 But we just put the two mattresses down back so you can put a couch in, 883 01:00:18,243 --> 01:00:19,643 things like that, whatever you want. 884 01:00:23,443 --> 01:00:26,843 It's generous. You know, we thought it was fantastic. 885 01:00:26,883 --> 01:00:31,523 But we just felt very guilty about having it. 886 01:00:33,123 --> 01:00:35,083 I'll show you your gas... (CLICKING) 887 01:00:36,243 --> 01:00:38,123 Oh, you don't even need a lighter? No. 888 01:00:38,963 --> 01:00:43,363 There's a gas bottle just out the back...to put into the container... 889 01:00:43,403 --> 01:00:45,243 with a cover on it. 890 01:00:45,283 --> 01:00:46,763 Thank you so much. No worries. 891 01:00:46,803 --> 01:00:48,403 Happy to help. 892 01:00:51,323 --> 01:00:53,803 It's just too much... 893 01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:57,603 It is, it's too much. 894 01:00:57,643 --> 01:00:59,803 (DOGS CONTINUE BARKING) 895 01:00:59,843 --> 01:01:01,243 Shut those dogs up! 896 01:01:03,443 --> 01:01:07,923 We got in touch and said we knew a couple 897 01:01:07,963 --> 01:01:10,923 that should be more deserving to have that pod, not us. 898 01:01:10,963 --> 01:01:14,843 Then we arranged to have the pod taken up to this other family. 899 01:01:14,883 --> 01:01:17,523 She's a sister at the hospital, works nightshift 900 01:01:17,563 --> 01:01:19,723 and her husband's 80% blind. 901 01:01:19,763 --> 01:01:22,843 And so, that was good for them, you know, 902 01:01:22,883 --> 01:01:25,483 and they're better off to have that. 903 01:01:25,523 --> 01:01:28,123 We didn't really need it. We were OK. 904 01:01:35,323 --> 01:01:37,043 Oh, dear me. 905 01:01:39,243 --> 01:01:40,723 (LAUGHS) 906 01:01:42,243 --> 01:01:44,843 Cheers. Oh, cheers. 907 01:01:44,883 --> 01:01:46,363 Cheers, girl. Cheers, girl. 908 01:01:46,403 --> 01:01:48,883 (BOTH LAUGH) 909 01:01:50,883 --> 01:01:53,523 There's always somebody out there worse off than you are 910 01:01:53,563 --> 01:01:56,483 and if you think too much about what you've lost 911 01:01:56,523 --> 01:01:59,763 and that, "Oh, this shouldn't have happened" or blah, blah, blah, 912 01:01:59,803 --> 01:02:03,643 it's a silly attitude because you're alive. 913 01:02:03,683 --> 01:02:05,563 A lot of people lost lives. 914 01:02:05,603 --> 01:02:06,963 You're alive. 915 01:02:07,003 --> 01:02:09,203 You just get up and get on with it. 916 01:02:14,043 --> 01:02:16,763 PAULA ZAJA: From day one, we saw cracks happening. 917 01:02:17,843 --> 01:02:20,763 You know, it's not just Helena, it's not just Justin, 918 01:02:20,803 --> 01:02:22,563 it's not Victoria, it's not just Brendon. 919 01:02:23,523 --> 01:02:25,403 We see the cracks everywhere. 920 01:02:26,763 --> 01:02:28,563 We know that these communities 921 01:02:28,603 --> 01:02:31,003 are short on resources for mental health to begin with 922 01:02:31,043 --> 01:02:33,363 and then, throw something in like this... 923 01:02:34,883 --> 01:02:36,403 You see it in their eyes, you know. 924 01:02:36,443 --> 01:02:42,043 People are concerned for others but afraid to ask for their own help. 925 01:02:52,643 --> 01:02:54,523 JOHN BROGDEN: Lifeline is an outreach service 926 01:02:54,563 --> 01:02:57,763 to people who are in crisis and at high risk of suicide. 927 01:02:59,803 --> 01:03:04,243 Even eight months on, we were still getting 200 to 300 calls a day. 928 01:03:05,363 --> 01:03:07,883 And our calls have increased, not decreased. 929 01:03:10,523 --> 01:03:13,123 Some people tough it through the first couple of weeks or the month. 930 01:03:13,163 --> 01:03:16,163 They're the person around who's the pillar for people. 931 01:03:16,203 --> 01:03:18,323 They get through the tough times, 932 01:03:18,363 --> 01:03:21,203 then they just fall to pieces six or 12 or 18 months later. 933 01:03:24,803 --> 01:03:27,723 BRENDON O'CONNOR: When you go away to a town and you save it 934 01:03:27,763 --> 01:03:29,043 and there's damage, you know, 935 01:03:29,083 --> 01:03:31,763 you take that very personally but you then get to leave. 936 01:03:34,203 --> 01:03:38,043 When it's in your own town and it's just so widespread, 937 01:03:38,083 --> 01:03:39,723 it's horrible, to be honest. 938 01:03:44,403 --> 01:03:46,883 My head was not in a good place. 939 01:03:46,923 --> 01:03:52,163 I was really depressed, angry, feeling very detached... 940 01:03:53,683 --> 01:03:56,323 even down to that point I'd had suicidal thoughts. 941 01:03:59,123 --> 01:04:04,403 I just wanted it gone. I just wanted it gone. 942 01:04:19,883 --> 01:04:23,963 WOMAN: So many people are really struggling to come to terms with, 943 01:04:24,003 --> 01:04:26,083 "How do I move forward from here?" 944 01:04:26,123 --> 01:04:29,683 My question to people has always been around, 945 01:04:29,723 --> 01:04:32,203 "What is it that stands in the way of you being at peace?" 946 01:04:35,563 --> 01:04:37,523 Brendon reached out to us 947 01:04:37,563 --> 01:04:41,123 because he was finding that he couldn't stop crying 948 01:04:41,163 --> 01:04:43,843 and this was so unusual for him 949 01:04:43,883 --> 01:04:46,323 'cause he's not someone who readily cries. 950 01:04:47,563 --> 01:04:49,843 BRENDON O'CONNOR: I had a good talk with Petrea 951 01:04:49,883 --> 01:04:52,763 and let her know where my headspace was, which wasn't good. 952 01:04:52,803 --> 01:04:55,683 I guess there were a lot of indicators to her 953 01:04:55,723 --> 01:04:59,243 that I needed help now, not... you know, not down the track. 954 01:04:59,283 --> 01:05:01,683 It's pretty horrific stuff 955 01:05:01,723 --> 01:05:04,243 and, you know, 21 years ago, into these things 956 01:05:04,283 --> 01:05:07,083 and then have your own village destroyed as it was... 957 01:05:07,123 --> 01:05:08,683 Yes. ..it's a lot. 958 01:05:08,723 --> 01:05:10,843 And the hypervigilance, it's just constantly there. 959 01:05:12,323 --> 01:05:16,803 We certainly encountered many men who were very surprised 960 01:05:16,843 --> 01:05:19,483 at their own reaction to what had happened to them. 961 01:05:24,363 --> 01:05:27,363 (TENSE MUSIC) 962 01:05:29,083 --> 01:05:30,683 JOHN BROGDEN: These were war-like conditions. 963 01:05:31,723 --> 01:05:34,003 You know, it's like a soldier at the front line, you know. 964 01:05:34,043 --> 01:05:36,403 You need to be there, you need to keep being there. 965 01:05:36,443 --> 01:05:41,003 The come-off of all of that adrenaline, of all of that fear, 966 01:05:41,043 --> 01:05:42,403 of all of that worry doesn't... 967 01:05:42,443 --> 01:05:45,323 You just don't switch it off and go back to work the next day. 968 01:05:49,323 --> 01:05:51,683 PETREA KING: What happens when people are on high alert 969 01:05:51,723 --> 01:05:53,363 for many, many weeks, 970 01:05:53,403 --> 01:05:56,723 they get very high cortisol and adrenaline levels 971 01:05:56,763 --> 01:05:58,283 for a long period of time 972 01:05:58,323 --> 01:06:01,523 and that interferes with your ability to make decisions. 973 01:06:01,563 --> 01:06:03,243 It interferes with sleep. 974 01:06:03,283 --> 01:06:06,923 What we found is when we educated people about, 975 01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:08,923 "This is what's been going on in your body 976 01:06:08,963 --> 01:06:10,803 "over the last few weeks and months" 977 01:06:10,843 --> 01:06:13,603 and they're, like, "Oh, so it's not about character, 978 01:06:13,643 --> 01:06:16,123 "it's not about 'I should've done better,' 979 01:06:16,163 --> 01:06:18,363 "it's not about 'There's something wrong with me.' 980 01:06:18,403 --> 01:06:21,763 "This is just a perfectly natural response 981 01:06:21,803 --> 01:06:24,643 "to a very unnatural situation." 982 01:06:28,043 --> 01:06:31,043 (BIRDSONG) 983 01:06:32,083 --> 01:06:33,883 BRENDON O'CONNOR: It's definitely not about getting over it 984 01:06:33,923 --> 01:06:36,683 'cause you're gonna carry these things forever. 985 01:06:37,843 --> 01:06:40,523 It was about being able to clear my mind 986 01:06:40,563 --> 01:06:43,123 and come to terms with what I've gone through. 987 01:06:45,083 --> 01:06:48,203 People will need counselling for a long, long time... 988 01:06:49,683 --> 01:06:53,483 but I guess a lot don't want to talk about it and keep bringing it back up 989 01:06:53,523 --> 01:06:56,403 'cause it is quite traumatising when you go through it again. 990 01:06:57,563 --> 01:07:00,243 With me, I guess being the first one to do it, 991 01:07:00,283 --> 01:07:02,283 I guess, was probably a good thing 992 01:07:02,323 --> 01:07:04,403 because a lot of people then looked at it and thought, 993 01:07:04,443 --> 01:07:07,203 "Well, if he can do it, so can I." 994 01:07:13,523 --> 01:07:14,803 (JUSTIN LAUGHS) 995 01:07:14,843 --> 01:07:16,763 PETREA KING: How good to see you. Hi, Petrea. 996 01:07:18,363 --> 01:07:19,563 Oh... 997 01:07:20,323 --> 01:07:22,803 Welcome. Thank you. 998 01:07:22,843 --> 01:07:24,563 Hey, Helena. 999 01:07:25,763 --> 01:07:27,203 Beautiful to see you. 1000 01:07:27,243 --> 01:07:28,243 Oh... 1001 01:07:28,283 --> 01:07:30,403 (HELENA CRIES) 1002 01:07:34,683 --> 01:07:35,963 Oh, dear. Sorry. 1003 01:07:36,003 --> 01:07:38,603 No. Never apologise for tears. 1004 01:07:39,763 --> 01:07:42,163 It's been absolutely awful. 1005 01:07:42,203 --> 01:07:44,443 It hurts the heart so deeply, doesn't it? 1006 01:07:44,483 --> 01:07:45,683 Mmm. Mmm. 1007 01:07:45,723 --> 01:07:46,883 Mmm. 1008 01:07:46,923 --> 01:07:50,003 It's been a very confusing year. 1009 01:07:50,043 --> 01:07:53,403 You know, it's gonna be a very long...long haul. 1010 01:07:53,443 --> 01:07:55,603 You know, it creates anxiety. 1011 01:07:55,643 --> 01:07:57,123 It's, like, "How long is this gonna take?" 1012 01:07:57,163 --> 01:07:59,083 And I don't think there's any answer for that. 1013 01:08:01,763 --> 01:08:03,923 SHANE FITZSIMMONS: There is this stigma, there is this shame 1014 01:08:03,963 --> 01:08:06,603 about being emotionally impacted or affected 1015 01:08:06,643 --> 01:08:09,523 and I would plead to everybody and our particularly men - 1016 01:08:09,563 --> 01:08:12,563 not exclusively, but men are the worst offenders, in my experience - 1017 01:08:12,603 --> 01:08:15,803 we've got to do more to open the doors 1018 01:08:15,843 --> 01:08:18,443 and give permission to our mates, to our colleagues, 1019 01:08:18,483 --> 01:08:20,523 to our families, to our loved ones 1020 01:08:20,563 --> 01:08:25,043 that it's OK to be impacted and affected by traumatic experiences. 1021 01:08:28,363 --> 01:08:29,923 CLEM BARNDEN: I thought I was a rock. 1022 01:08:31,083 --> 01:08:34,803 Physically, I'm alright. Mentally, I'm scarred through it. 1023 01:08:36,443 --> 01:08:38,443 Talking about it makes it come good. 1024 01:08:39,723 --> 01:08:40,803 It's a release. 1025 01:08:40,843 --> 01:08:42,803 If you don't release, it builds up inside you, 1026 01:08:42,843 --> 01:08:44,083 then it becomes a real problem. 1027 01:08:45,443 --> 01:08:47,563 BRENDON O'CONNOR: It can't be forced onto the person. 1028 01:08:47,603 --> 01:08:50,763 You know, you've gotta be ready to put your hand up. 1029 01:08:50,803 --> 01:08:52,083 You know, without them, 1030 01:08:52,123 --> 01:08:55,123 I honestly can say I don't know whether I would still be here. 1031 01:08:58,323 --> 01:08:59,963 JOHN BROGDEN: 20, 30 years ago, 1032 01:09:00,003 --> 01:09:02,283 I think we would've thought these people would just tough it out. 1033 01:09:02,323 --> 01:09:03,403 They'll be fine. 1034 01:09:04,763 --> 01:09:08,083 I think one of the lessons for Australia and Australians 1035 01:09:08,123 --> 01:09:11,683 is we're not as tough as we thought we were 1036 01:09:11,723 --> 01:09:14,563 but we are more resilient than we think we are. 1037 01:09:37,243 --> 01:09:40,603 BRUCE BUCKLEY: We can expect to see far more severe fire seasons 1038 01:09:40,643 --> 01:09:42,203 than what we've seen in the past. 1039 01:09:44,203 --> 01:09:46,763 All of the increase in bushfire activity 1040 01:09:46,803 --> 01:09:50,763 occurred with a global warming in the order of plus-1.1 degree. 1041 01:09:52,083 --> 01:09:55,883 We are facing a global warming of not plus-two, not plus-2.5 1042 01:09:55,923 --> 01:09:57,283 but plus-three degrees, 1043 01:09:57,323 --> 01:10:01,243 so whatever we've seen to date, this is just the start of it. 1044 01:10:05,883 --> 01:10:07,803 VICTOR STEFFENSEN: Everyone goes, "Climate change!" 1045 01:10:07,843 --> 01:10:11,523 And, yes, I agree, we need to be serious about that. 1046 01:10:11,563 --> 01:10:14,603 But the other side of it is bad management. 1047 01:10:14,643 --> 01:10:17,123 Prescribed burning has got a long way to go. 1048 01:10:21,963 --> 01:10:24,803 Some of them get quite cool and they might get it right 1049 01:10:24,843 --> 01:10:27,203 but the majority that I see 1050 01:10:27,243 --> 01:10:29,883 is burning the wrong ecosystems at the time of the year... 1051 01:10:31,203 --> 01:10:33,883 upsetting the regrowth of plants and animals. 1052 01:10:35,603 --> 01:10:37,963 And the heat that comes out of those types of burns 1053 01:10:38,003 --> 01:10:40,243 is bad for our landscape. 1054 01:10:40,283 --> 01:10:43,283 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 1055 01:10:52,923 --> 01:10:57,123 Aboriginal fire management practices are a just stark contrast. 1056 01:10:58,203 --> 01:10:59,883 It's a whole 'nother level 1057 01:10:59,923 --> 01:11:01,963 of an intimate connection with the country. 1058 01:11:08,243 --> 01:11:11,963 It is about the right fire for the right time, 1059 01:11:12,003 --> 01:11:14,243 for the right type of country. 1060 01:11:15,923 --> 01:11:18,403 Fires are more frequent for Aboriginal burning 1061 01:11:18,443 --> 01:11:20,603 but less destructive. 1062 01:11:20,643 --> 01:11:24,523 That's how Aboriginal people have been burning for thousands of years. 1063 01:11:28,123 --> 01:11:32,563 We don't want to burn the soil till it's charred and baked. 1064 01:11:32,603 --> 01:11:35,443 We want to protect the organic matter that sits in the soils. 1065 01:11:35,483 --> 01:11:40,043 And that organic matter is crucial for the revegetation of country. 1066 01:11:42,123 --> 01:11:46,603 When they manage it the Western way and burn to get rid of all the fuel 1067 01:11:46,643 --> 01:11:48,843 and no mind for the health of the landscape, 1068 01:11:48,883 --> 01:11:52,643 then we start to see plants that don't belong in those systems, 1069 01:11:52,683 --> 01:11:54,523 plants that are flammable come up and shoot up 1070 01:11:54,563 --> 01:11:58,003 and that creates fires worser... down the track. 1071 01:12:00,723 --> 01:12:05,763 For a long time, we didn't really take it too seriously, you know, 1072 01:12:05,803 --> 01:12:08,403 because this wasn't as fast as we want. 1073 01:12:08,443 --> 01:12:11,043 It's a slow process. 1074 01:12:11,083 --> 01:12:13,163 But it's very effective. 1075 01:12:13,203 --> 01:12:18,123 BRENDON O'CONNOR: To me, it has a big part in how it should be done. 1076 01:12:18,163 --> 01:12:20,803 It shouldn't just be about, you know, 1077 01:12:20,843 --> 01:12:22,843 lock this little square in and burn that out. 1078 01:12:22,883 --> 01:12:24,763 You know, we've got to look at the bigger picture. 1079 01:12:24,803 --> 01:12:27,963 You know, when we look at the fires, 1080 01:12:28,003 --> 01:12:30,403 it's the first time in history, really, 1081 01:12:30,443 --> 01:12:33,043 that Aboriginal people are being listened to for their knowledge 1082 01:12:33,083 --> 01:12:34,723 and as a solution. 1083 01:12:34,763 --> 01:12:38,763 Not only are we trying to save the environment, 1084 01:12:38,803 --> 01:12:41,203 we're trying to save culture as well, 1085 01:12:41,243 --> 01:12:42,723 which is a part of that environment. 1086 01:12:45,203 --> 01:12:46,723 We're in a turning point. 1087 01:12:48,803 --> 01:12:52,643 How can we not invest in the future generations 1088 01:12:52,683 --> 01:12:54,283 and the health of this planet? 1089 01:12:56,643 --> 01:12:59,683 Otherwise we'll have no country left to live on. 1090 01:13:15,483 --> 01:13:17,643 NATHAN BARNDEN: Fires have occurred forever in Australia 1091 01:13:17,683 --> 01:13:19,563 and they will continue to happen. 1092 01:13:21,963 --> 01:13:24,883 We're aware we're gonna have to face this again. 1093 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:30,483 You know, I don't know how we'll go the next time there's a bigger fire 1094 01:13:30,523 --> 01:13:33,563 that's threatening our own home in our own area. 1095 01:13:33,603 --> 01:13:37,003 And I don't know what it'll do to our family. 1096 01:13:40,683 --> 01:13:45,163 ROSEY BARNDEN: Up until December, it didn't worry me. 1097 01:13:45,203 --> 01:13:49,123 I guess in the back of your mind you think about it but I just... 1098 01:13:49,163 --> 01:13:52,523 Yeah, I never thought about anything bad happening. 1099 01:13:56,243 --> 01:13:57,923 But when the pager goes off, 1100 01:13:57,963 --> 01:14:03,803 straight away, it's just that instant hurt in my stomach 1101 01:14:03,843 --> 01:14:08,323 to see Clem and Michael and Nathan gone all night. 1102 01:14:08,363 --> 01:14:13,163 You got a little text message from Clem with a little love heart 1103 01:14:13,203 --> 01:14:16,003 and that was my only thing that I knew he was alright... 1104 01:14:18,443 --> 01:14:24,283 I hate the fires. I hate everything about it. 1105 01:14:25,563 --> 01:14:27,523 And that's... that finding that balance 1106 01:14:27,563 --> 01:14:31,763 of having fire ruin your whole family 1107 01:14:31,803 --> 01:14:36,883 and then have fire that is my family. 1108 01:14:44,203 --> 01:14:47,483 NATHAN BARNDEN: Going out to fires after losing Patrick and Robert 1109 01:14:47,523 --> 01:14:49,123 was never the same. 1110 01:14:50,403 --> 01:14:53,123 I think I quit 23 times. 1111 01:14:53,163 --> 01:14:55,243 I sat in, you know, the station, 1112 01:14:55,283 --> 01:14:58,323 where for the last, you know, 12 years, I'd... 1113 01:14:59,323 --> 01:15:01,803 I'd lived for 1114 01:15:01,843 --> 01:15:04,163 and I wanted to throw it all away. 1115 01:15:11,683 --> 01:15:14,083 CHRISTINE PAULING: We have our heroes that saved us 1116 01:15:14,123 --> 01:15:19,683 but to see Nathan, such a young man, with so much on his shoulders... 1117 01:15:21,403 --> 01:15:22,603 it brings me to tears. 1118 01:15:24,643 --> 01:15:29,243 He's holding onto a weight that you and I can't even imagine. 1119 01:15:29,283 --> 01:15:30,883 (CRANKS HANDBRAKE) 1120 01:15:36,723 --> 01:15:38,123 (KEYS JINGLE) 1121 01:15:39,083 --> 01:15:40,523 Hi, love. Hello. Hey. How are you? 1122 01:15:40,563 --> 01:15:43,323 Hi. How are you? 1123 01:15:43,363 --> 01:15:45,203 Good. How are you? Good. 1124 01:15:48,283 --> 01:15:49,603 How are you? 1125 01:15:49,643 --> 01:15:50,963 Yeah. 1126 01:15:52,043 --> 01:15:56,883 It's taken a long time and a lot of feeling pretty bad about everything 1127 01:15:56,923 --> 01:15:58,203 and... 1128 01:15:58,243 --> 01:15:59,643 I cannot imagine. 1129 01:15:59,683 --> 01:16:02,563 ..I struggled, despite the fact 1130 01:16:02,603 --> 01:16:06,203 that I was really happy that we saved you guys. 1131 01:16:06,243 --> 01:16:07,683 It was so hard... WOMAN: Yeah. 1132 01:16:07,723 --> 01:16:09,443 ..to know that I couldn't save my own family. 1133 01:16:09,483 --> 01:16:10,483 Yeah. 1134 01:16:10,523 --> 01:16:13,283 And it took a long time before I felt proud about this 1135 01:16:13,323 --> 01:16:15,603 and I think it was your birthday... 1136 01:16:15,643 --> 01:16:16,763 February. 1137 01:16:16,803 --> 01:16:18,803 ..February, when I ran into you in the shops. 1138 01:16:18,843 --> 01:16:20,243 It was the fact that, you know, 1139 01:16:20,283 --> 01:16:22,763 she got to have a birthday that she wouldn't have... 1140 01:16:22,803 --> 01:16:24,603 Had. Yeah. ..wouldn't have had. 1141 01:16:24,643 --> 01:16:25,643 And... Yeah. 1142 01:16:25,683 --> 01:16:28,123 But it took a long time to realise that I should be happy. 1143 01:16:28,163 --> 01:16:30,523 Like, you know... I know that sounds terrible but... 1144 01:16:30,563 --> 01:16:33,243 No. I have the most precious gift... Yep. 1145 01:16:33,283 --> 01:16:34,683 ..anyone could give me. 1146 01:16:34,723 --> 01:16:36,443 I have the five grandchildren. 1147 01:16:36,483 --> 01:16:39,763 And you know, I was beyond. 1148 01:16:39,803 --> 01:16:42,003 I had every veranda alight. Yep. 1149 01:16:42,043 --> 01:16:44,603 I'd used up every resource of water. Yeah, there were minutes... 1150 01:16:44,643 --> 01:16:47,603 I'd made a promise to my grandchildren 1151 01:16:47,643 --> 01:16:51,083 that that fireman would come and he did. 1152 01:16:51,123 --> 01:16:55,363 And then he went back and he came back to Quaama again 1153 01:16:55,403 --> 01:16:57,443 and he came back to Quaama again. 1154 01:16:57,483 --> 01:16:59,883 And I see the faces... Yep. 1155 01:16:59,923 --> 01:17:01,803 ..of all the people that you did save. 1156 01:17:01,843 --> 01:17:04,003 I'm sorry you couldn't save your family. 1157 01:17:06,323 --> 01:17:09,563 I just can't imagine life without mine. 1158 01:17:09,603 --> 01:17:11,123 Nothing. Yeah. 1159 01:17:11,163 --> 01:17:12,443 Nothing. 1160 01:17:17,123 --> 01:17:19,003 Yeah, I don't know how we did it. (LAUGHS) 1161 01:17:19,043 --> 01:17:20,723 I don't know how. Yeah. 1162 01:17:20,763 --> 01:17:22,163 I think we had split seconds. 1163 01:17:22,203 --> 01:17:25,563 We had six calls for six houses at the same time 1164 01:17:25,603 --> 01:17:27,763 and yours was the one we chose to go to first. 1165 01:17:27,803 --> 01:17:30,363 My youngest one asked you, "Will we die?" 1166 01:17:30,403 --> 01:17:32,523 And I remember you went... 1167 01:17:32,563 --> 01:17:35,603 I was expecting you to say "Of course not" 1168 01:17:35,643 --> 01:17:38,283 and I looked at the sight of your face when you went, 1169 01:17:38,323 --> 01:17:41,003 "We'll do our best." Yep. 1170 01:17:41,043 --> 01:17:43,043 I'm, like, "Wow, we're in big trouble." 1171 01:17:43,083 --> 01:17:45,523 I didn't think we'd get back out. 1172 01:17:45,563 --> 01:17:47,363 We just thought we were safe. Mmm. 1173 01:17:47,403 --> 01:17:49,003 We had two firemen in the front seat 1174 01:17:49,043 --> 01:17:51,243 that had got every one of us out of that house 1175 01:17:51,283 --> 01:17:53,163 and I remember you telling the kids... 1176 01:17:53,203 --> 01:17:55,523 We kept an eye out for the cops because there was... 1177 01:17:55,563 --> 01:17:57,643 Double demerits. Double demerits. 1178 01:17:57,683 --> 01:17:59,443 And we had nine of us in a five-seater. 1179 01:17:59,483 --> 01:18:00,563 Nine in the car. Yeah. 1180 01:18:00,603 --> 01:18:02,763 Three children in the boot. And it was, like... 1181 01:18:02,803 --> 01:18:05,523 'Cause I was trying to be funny at the time and I didn't... (LAUGHS) 1182 01:18:05,563 --> 01:18:06,603 We were so distracted. 1183 01:18:06,643 --> 01:18:08,163 I was just glad to have someone there 1184 01:18:08,203 --> 01:18:09,363 that knew what they were doing. 1185 01:18:09,403 --> 01:18:11,363 We had a pretty big adventure. 1186 01:18:11,403 --> 01:18:15,203 I don't think anyone would be able to beat that. That was huge. 1187 01:18:15,243 --> 01:18:17,803 Went with Mad Max through fireballs and everything, didn't we? 1188 01:18:17,843 --> 01:18:18,923 GIRL: Yeah. 1189 01:18:20,523 --> 01:18:23,443 I often wonder and I often question why... 1190 01:18:23,483 --> 01:18:25,563 why I joined and why I stayed. 1191 01:18:25,603 --> 01:18:26,843 And they are very different things. 1192 01:18:29,683 --> 01:18:32,243 I joined because, as a 16-year-old kid, 1193 01:18:32,283 --> 01:18:35,403 I watched my dad do something that was kind of cool. 1194 01:18:36,603 --> 01:18:39,843 Like, my dad went out on fire trucks and put out fires. 1195 01:18:41,043 --> 01:18:46,043 I stay because we get to make a difference on somebody's life 1196 01:18:46,083 --> 01:18:47,283 at their worst moment. 1197 01:18:47,323 --> 01:18:51,523 There are people who are here now because of the actions that I did 1198 01:18:51,563 --> 01:18:54,243 and if you think back to 15-year-old Nathan, 1199 01:18:54,283 --> 01:18:56,203 who was making the decision to join up, 1200 01:18:56,243 --> 01:18:58,203 those decisions back then, 1201 01:18:58,243 --> 01:19:00,483 12 years later, made the difference in someone's life. 1202 01:19:00,523 --> 01:19:03,003 It makes me proud. 1203 01:19:03,043 --> 01:19:04,283 I'm proud, more than anything, 1204 01:19:04,323 --> 01:19:07,643 to stand alongside my dad and my brother and do what we do 1205 01:19:07,683 --> 01:19:11,243 and I would... 1206 01:19:11,283 --> 01:19:13,403 I don't know what I would do without it. 1207 01:19:17,283 --> 01:19:19,803 ROSEY BARNDEN: I would never, ever ask them not to do it 1208 01:19:19,843 --> 01:19:22,563 because that's who they all are 1209 01:19:22,603 --> 01:19:29,163 and supporting these guys and seeing them still being able to go out 1210 01:19:29,203 --> 01:19:33,123 and do what they do helps me too, so... 1211 01:19:33,163 --> 01:19:37,243 And, yeah, that's why I'd never ask them to give it up. 1212 01:19:40,443 --> 01:19:42,243 Hey, Justin. How are you, mate? 1213 01:19:42,283 --> 01:19:43,883 Are you good? How you going, brother? 1214 01:19:43,923 --> 01:19:46,003 Yeah, good. And yourself? We've gotta stop meeting like this. 1215 01:19:46,043 --> 01:19:47,843 (BOTH LAUGH) People will start talking. 1216 01:19:47,883 --> 01:19:49,643 Hey, Vicky! How are you? 1217 01:19:49,683 --> 01:19:52,043 Hey, darl. Are you well? Really good to see you. 1218 01:19:52,083 --> 01:19:53,603 I haven't seen you for ages. 1219 01:19:57,443 --> 01:19:58,843 JUSTIN: Nobody is without their faults. 1220 01:19:58,883 --> 01:20:01,363 Brendan can be absolutely hard-headed sometimes. 1221 01:20:01,403 --> 01:20:02,523 (LAUGHS) Oh, yes. 1222 01:20:02,563 --> 01:20:05,243 However, you know, in saying that, 1223 01:20:05,283 --> 01:20:08,483 you know, that hard-headedness saved this village. 1224 01:20:09,683 --> 01:20:11,683 (SINGS) # 24th of November 1225 01:20:13,443 --> 01:20:15,643 # After a lightning storm 1226 01:20:17,803 --> 01:20:19,523 # Green Wattle fire 1227 01:20:21,883 --> 01:20:24,163 # 100 miles to blow... # 1228 01:20:24,203 --> 01:20:25,843 I love where I live. 1229 01:20:25,883 --> 01:20:28,483 # Thought the town would burn... # Love the people. 1230 01:20:28,523 --> 01:20:30,523 We're like a big family in the village. 1231 01:20:30,563 --> 01:20:33,403 With my crew, they're like brothers and sisters to me, 1232 01:20:33,443 --> 01:20:36,283 which is what we call each other, 'brother' and 'sister'. 1233 01:20:36,323 --> 01:20:39,723 You know, the camaraderie never goes away. 1234 01:20:39,763 --> 01:20:44,003 You know, I want to make sure they're safe and that our residents are safe, 1235 01:20:44,043 --> 01:20:46,203 our village is safe 1236 01:20:46,243 --> 01:20:52,003 and that's why I still do it, for the people in the village, yep. 1237 01:20:52,043 --> 01:21:03,523 # Thank those heroes in yellow 1238 01:21:03,563 --> 01:21:05,763 # Sleep peacefully tonight 1239 01:21:11,163 --> 01:21:14,603 # Thank those heroes in yellow. # 1240 01:21:14,643 --> 01:21:16,243 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 1241 01:21:16,283 --> 01:21:19,003 MAN: Beautiful! Beautiful! 1242 01:21:21,963 --> 01:21:23,803 JUSTIN KAM: This is our home. 1243 01:21:24,803 --> 01:21:28,323 Our property is our little patch of paradise for us, you know. 1244 01:21:28,363 --> 01:21:30,243 It's a beautiful place. 1245 01:21:31,403 --> 01:21:33,123 HELENA KAM: Gabriel was born here. (LAUGHS) 1246 01:21:33,163 --> 01:21:34,683 Yeah, we're resilient. 1247 01:21:34,723 --> 01:21:35,963 (LAUGHS) 1248 01:21:36,003 --> 01:21:37,723 And buggers at it too. (BOTH LAUGH) 1249 01:21:37,763 --> 01:21:39,123 We're just stubborn people too. 1250 01:21:39,163 --> 01:21:41,323 You're not gonna get rid of us that easy. 1251 01:21:43,203 --> 01:21:45,083 BARBARA STEWART: A lot of people have said to me 1252 01:21:45,123 --> 01:21:48,403 that they just can't get over that I can still have a sense of humour 1253 01:21:48,443 --> 01:21:51,603 and laugh about what's been going on. 1254 01:21:51,643 --> 01:21:55,443 I do cry but I cry quietly behind my own door. 1255 01:21:57,403 --> 01:22:01,523 I lost so many things, precious things 1256 01:22:01,563 --> 01:22:05,683 but as my son said, "Mum, they're just things." 1257 01:22:07,363 --> 01:22:10,963 EMILY COPLEY-MOORBY: At the end of the day, I didn't lose anything. 1258 01:22:11,003 --> 01:22:12,363 I was just here for it. 1259 01:22:12,403 --> 01:22:14,843 But the way that I move on 1260 01:22:14,883 --> 01:22:18,443 is by helping people who are suffering more than I am. 1261 01:22:20,363 --> 01:22:22,763 SHANE FITZSIMMONS: I would challenge anybody across Australia 1262 01:22:22,803 --> 01:22:24,443 to look in their local community 1263 01:22:24,483 --> 01:22:26,243 and ask yourself, "What's working well here?" 1264 01:22:26,283 --> 01:22:29,523 And I'm willing to bet you that it'll be underpinned by volunteers. 1265 01:22:30,763 --> 01:22:35,523 MAN: Every time I release a koala and we see it go up the tree, 1266 01:22:35,563 --> 01:22:39,763 every time I release them, I just say, "That's why we do what we do." 1267 01:22:42,203 --> 01:22:45,243 PAULA ZAJA: You know, they say if you want love, you give love. 1268 01:22:45,283 --> 01:22:48,483 If you need help, help someone else. 1269 01:22:49,723 --> 01:22:51,723 My identity was linked as a victim 1270 01:22:51,763 --> 01:22:55,643 and as soon as you start doing things for others, your identity changes 1271 01:22:55,683 --> 01:22:58,443 and your value in you changes, so I'm not that victim anymore. 1272 01:22:58,483 --> 01:23:01,123 You know, I've been able to take that and make good out of it. 1273 01:23:03,083 --> 01:23:05,603 Giving back makes you bigger. 1274 01:23:05,643 --> 01:23:08,123 Helping someone else makes you better. 1275 01:23:09,523 --> 01:23:12,723 MAX CARRASCO: The most beautiful reward that I had, 1276 01:23:12,763 --> 01:23:14,443 this little girl... 1277 01:23:14,483 --> 01:23:17,163 I'm sorry. 1278 01:23:17,203 --> 01:23:18,763 (CRIES) 1279 01:23:22,523 --> 01:23:25,323 She saw the uniform... 1280 01:23:26,323 --> 01:23:31,323 and she just ran to me and give me a big hug. 1281 01:23:31,363 --> 01:23:34,083 And she said, "Thank you, Mr Firefighter. 1282 01:23:34,123 --> 01:23:36,803 "You saved my house." 1283 01:23:36,843 --> 01:23:39,043 Do I get money for that? 1284 01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:40,923 There's no money in the world can pay that. 1285 01:23:40,963 --> 01:23:42,603 No money. 1286 01:23:49,443 --> 01:23:51,563 NATHAN BARNDEN: "I read of a man who stood to speak 1287 01:23:51,603 --> 01:23:53,803 "At the funeral of a friend 1288 01:23:53,843 --> 01:23:56,843 "He referred to the dates on the tombstone 1289 01:23:56,883 --> 01:23:58,883 "From the beginning to the end. 1290 01:23:58,923 --> 01:24:02,403 "He noted the first came the date of birth 1291 01:24:02,443 --> 01:24:05,843 "And spoke of the following date with tears 1292 01:24:05,883 --> 01:24:08,443 "But what he said mattered most of all 1293 01:24:08,483 --> 01:24:11,003 "Was the dash between those years. 1294 01:24:11,043 --> 01:24:14,643 "For that dash represents all of the time 1295 01:24:14,683 --> 01:24:17,003 "That that person has spent alive on Earth 1296 01:24:17,043 --> 01:24:22,243 "And now only those who love them know what that little line is worth. 1297 01:24:23,603 --> 01:24:29,403 "For it matters not how much we own, the cars, the house, the cash 1298 01:24:29,443 --> 01:24:32,643 "What matters most is how we live and love 1299 01:24:32,683 --> 01:24:35,403 "And how we spend our dash. 1300 01:24:36,803 --> 01:24:38,683 "So, think about this long and hard 1301 01:24:38,723 --> 01:24:41,963 "Are there things that you would like to change? 1302 01:24:42,003 --> 01:24:46,723 "For you never know how much time is left that can still be rearranged. 1303 01:24:48,163 --> 01:24:54,483 "So, when your eulogy is being read with your life's actions to rehash 1304 01:24:54,523 --> 01:24:57,163 "Would you be proud of the things they say 1305 01:24:57,203 --> 01:24:59,803 "About how you spent your dash?" 1306 01:25:03,363 --> 01:25:06,363 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv 102699

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