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Hey Siri,...
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send a message to Cheryl,
Front Reception.
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What do you want to say?
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Amos is already heading
there to pick him up, period.
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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady, period.
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Your message to Cheryl,
Front Reception, says,
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"Amos is already heading
there to pick him up.
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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady."
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Ready to send it?
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Yes.
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Okay, it's sent.
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Hey Siri,...
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how do you know if you're
doing the right thing?
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I'm not sure I understand.
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But what do you believe
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is the difference between
right and wrong?
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Hmm.
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I don't have an answer for that.
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Would you like me
to search the web?
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No.
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Okay, is there
something else I can help with?
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Set a reminder to pick up Kyle
from therapy tomorrow at 4:45.
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Okay, I'll remind you.
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Hi, special agent Deena Helms.
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You've already met
Agent McCullough.
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You can call me Amos.
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- Uh, agents?
- Have a seat for us, Gareth.
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Do you mind answering a
couple questions?
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Great, this shouldn't take long.
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You're from Tampa, right?
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Don't overthink it.
It's a yes or no.
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Yeah.
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How old are you, Gareth?
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29.
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What do you do for work?
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I'm sorry, am I being detained?
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No, not at all.
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We're just asking
questions, background stuff.
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You work on movies, right?
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Special effects.
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Someone told me you worked
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on that new "Star Wars"
movie, is that right?
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Who told you that?
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Why don't you tell us
more about it?
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Tell us about your work.
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I used to do VFX for
an animation company.
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I've worked on at least
20 different films.
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Used to?
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I've been focusing more
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on software engineering
recently for years—
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Sounds boring compared
to light sabers.
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Why quit?
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I wasn't getting paid well.
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But money's not an
issue for you.
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Excuse me?
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What kind of effects did you do?
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- Money's not an issue for me?
- Let's talk about... Let's talk...
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If money wasn't an issue for me,...
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- I wouldn't have applied for your grant.
- I didn't mean to suggest anything.
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Tell us what kind of
effects you did.
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My main focus was on
3D renderings.
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Of what?
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- Actors.
- What for?
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Well, for "Star Wars",
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it was because the actor
I was tasked to digitize
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was unavailable to be
filmed in person.
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Why?
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Because they were dead.
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What'd they have you do?
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I reconstructed
Alec Guinness' face as a 3D model.
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I analyzed reference footage,
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then used a process called
D-Term to procedurally generate
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his bone and muscle structures,
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which one rigged helped
the animation feel
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more natural and human-like.
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D-Term, I've never heard
of that process before.
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Because I invented it.
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So you're basically bringing
dead actors back to life?
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I just tried to make
the CG characters look as
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photorealistic as the technology
at the time would allow.
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You didn't find it creepy?
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I'm sorry, what?
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I said you don't find
that creepy?
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Well, we did our best
to cross the uncanny valley.
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But when the human
brain perceives
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that something is just slightly
off and it doesn't matter—
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No, I mean,
digitizing dead people.
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Christ, I mean, it's...
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it's almost like turning someone's corpse
into a marionette, you know?
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Making them do
whatever you want.
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What if the poor dead guy
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didn't want to be in
another fucking movie?
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It's so macabre.
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Am I crazy? Is it not macabre?
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I don't think the studio cares
whether it's macabre or not.
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Look, I can never tell
the difference.
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I always can.
The faces look like Play-Doh.
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Well, we did our best.
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Soon we won't even need actors, right?
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Everyone will just be digital.
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No, you still need them
for motion tracking.
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Human performances can't
be completely computer generated.
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How long will that be true?
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Some might say we've already
crossed that threshold.
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I wouldn't know.
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Where'd you go to school?
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- Brooks-DeBartolo High.
- And after?
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Nothing?
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What about Columbia?
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Didn't you go to Columbia?
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Wait, no.
You dropped out of Columbia
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after how many semesters?
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Three?
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Bjarne Stroustrup said,...
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you were the smartest
kid he ever met.
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I don't know who he is,
but Amos says it's a big deal.
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Then you moved to the Netherlands,
spent some time as an intern,...
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applied and got into Cambridge.
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Very nice.
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Except that you dropped
out after two years.
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Flew back to the States,
interned in Palo Alto, then Montreal.
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Then went all the way
back to England,
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where you landed a job
in Sheffield.
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Second job in Manchester.
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Then got into Oxford where you
almost finished your masters
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before ditching the graduation
and moving back here to Florida.
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If money was an issue,
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I'm glad you had plenty
of flyer miles.
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I didn't hear a question.
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What's your social life like?
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My, what does that have
anything to do—
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If you don't want to talk
about it, that's fine.
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We just wanted to know
if you have friends and stuff.
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- I have friends.
- A lot of them?
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- I have friends.
- Can you name one?
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- Can I what?
- Can you tell us the name...
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of just one of your friends?
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- Steve.
- Steve. Steve what?
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I don't know how this is
relevant to receiving the grant.
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Oh, we're just getting
to know you, Gareth.
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You got a girlfriend?
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Boyfriend?
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You, uh, talk to people online?
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I don't know what you
mean by that.
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I don't use social media.
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I mean more like chat rooms.
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You go on any chat rooms?
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No one uses chat rooms anymore.
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Sure they do.
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You chat with anyone online?
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- Sometimes.
- Sometimes.
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What kinds of people
do you talk to online?
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Gareth, obviously,
this isn't about a grant.
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We need to know
what your alias is.
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When you go online,
what name do you use?
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I don't have one.
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Yes, you do.
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And you need to tell
us what it is.
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Sorry, I can't help you.
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You know who we are?
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Well, this is the ICWL building.
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That's right.
You know what we do?
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Humanitarian work.
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That's what the people upstairs do.
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You know what we do?
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We catch pedophiles.
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Amos here specializes
in tracking down online predators.
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He spends every waking hour,
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scouring those chat rooms
you say no one uses,...
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and he finds thousands
of people soliciting children.
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Our operation is like
a tightly spun spider web,
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connecting ICWL, the FBI, NSA,
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and let me tell you,
his team here is a vital thread.
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He reports everything
he gathers directly to me,
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and I see to it that
the necessary authorities
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take swift action.
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So are you in charge?
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This is my spiderweb.
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I'm the fucking spider, Gareth.
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Am I being detained?
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We already told you
that you're not detained.
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Good.
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But if you leave this room,
you will be arrested.
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For what?
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I told you what we do.
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Take a wild guess.
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I am not what you think I am.
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We'll see.
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Gareth, you just gotta
tell us your alias.
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What's your username?
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Sit down.
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- Why do you do this with them?
- Hmm?
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There's no way you do this
with every suspect you have.
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Invite them to your headquarters,
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and then drag them down
into a basement.
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That's right.
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Why are you doing
this to me then?
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You tell us, Gare.
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What makes you so fuckin' special?
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I don't know.
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What's your alias?
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- I don't have an alias.
- Yes you do.
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It starts with the word hard.
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Just finish the rest.
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Sit down, Mr. Federson.
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I only have a few
more questions.
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Do you recognize this girl?
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Do you know her?
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Yes.
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What's her name?
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Cherry.
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- Cherry what?
- She doesn't have a last name.
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Yes, she does, Gareth,
she's not Madonna.
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- She's a little girl.
- You don't understand.
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Yeah, well, I'd like to.
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So help me out,
is she your daughter?
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- No.
- Then whose daughter is she?
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- She, she doesn't have...
- How did you meet her?
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I didn't meet her.
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Then why do you have photos
of her on your computer?
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What the hell are you
talking about?
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Why do you fucking have photos
of this girl on your fucking...
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- Are you looking at my hard drive?
- So you know...
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- Because that's an invasion of privacy.
- what photos I'm talking about?
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You don't have to do
it this way.
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I gave you permission to sit in.
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I did not give you
permission to speak.
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This is insane, you cannot keep—
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What else have you
done with her?
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- Nothing!
- Did you take the photos?
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It's, it's complicated.
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No, it's not! Yes or no?
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Did you take the photos?
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I didn't do anything wrong, okay?
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Soliciting pornography of minors
is an egregious felony.
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Distributing that
pornography is tenfold worse.
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- I didn't do anything!
- Fucking prove it!
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What is your alias?
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Answer me!
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HardMachine11811.
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You're HardMachine.
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Thanks for confirming.
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If you knew,
then why do this to me?
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We weren't positive,
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and if you turned out
to not be HardMachine,
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you were obviously
just a predator.
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Do you keep track?
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I mean, do you know how many
bad people you've nailed?
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I didn't start
counting until 2023.
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196 convictions.
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There were at least 30
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before I started sending
everything to you guys.
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What'd you do before?
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I turned over all evidence
directly to the police.
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Why'd you stop?
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They were unreliable.
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- I doubt that.
- More than half of the predators...
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I identified went
un-investigated.
260
00:12:41,061 --> 00:12:42,691
Yeah, well, you were
sketchy and faceless.
261
00:12:42,715 --> 00:12:44,155
They had every right
to be skeptical.
262
00:12:44,935 --> 00:12:46,199
It would've all been for nothing
263
00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,914
if they found out you were
using a little girl as bait.
264
00:12:47,938 --> 00:12:49,113
It's not that simple, okay?
265
00:12:49,156 --> 00:12:51,768
I can only do what
I do with anonymity.
266
00:12:51,811 --> 00:12:53,771
Here's my problem, Gareth,
and don't get me wrong.
267
00:12:53,813 --> 00:12:55,510
I think 200 terrible
people behind bars
268
00:12:55,554 --> 00:12:57,643
is a very good thing,
but not at her expense.
269
00:12:58,557 --> 00:13:02,170
Look, we think we can help you,
but we need to help her too.
270
00:13:02,213 --> 00:13:05,477
Using your daughter
to entrap these people
271
00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,628
is a means that does not
justify the ends.
272
00:13:06,652 --> 00:13:07,599
She's not my daughter.
273
00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,199
And in spite of what you
may think you've achieved,
274
00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,588
I still have no reservation
with locking you up.
275
00:13:10,612 --> 00:13:11,612
You took the photos.
276
00:13:12,005 --> 00:13:13,005
I don't care why.
277
00:13:13,224 --> 00:13:14,268
You don't understand.
278
00:13:15,008 --> 00:13:16,096
Who is she?
279
00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:17,794
You're gonna ruin everything.
280
00:13:17,837 --> 00:13:20,535
She's a child, Gareth,
look at me.
281
00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,802
I don't give a damn what
fucked up anti-hero master plan
282
00:13:25,845 --> 00:13:26,965
of yours I might jeopardize.
283
00:13:27,368 --> 00:13:28,979
I won't let her be exploited.
284
00:13:29,022 --> 00:13:30,982
Not even for the sake
of locking up more perverts.
285
00:13:32,286 --> 00:13:34,375
I'm asking you politely
to let this one go.
286
00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:36,551
Are you fucking slow?
287
00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:38,051
Have you been listening at all?
288
00:13:38,075 --> 00:13:40,599
My anonymity is my most
important asset.
289
00:13:40,642 --> 00:13:42,253
Without that,
I can't do what I do.
290
00:13:42,296 --> 00:13:43,863
Well, that makes
everything easy then.
291
00:13:45,386 --> 00:13:47,606
You tell us where she is,
or we leak everything.
292
00:13:47,649 --> 00:13:49,129
- Your name, your aliases.
- Deena!
293
00:13:49,173 --> 00:13:51,218
Every single perp
you helped us catch.
294
00:13:51,262 --> 00:13:53,153
I'm sure they'll be very
pleased to meet you in jail.
295
00:13:53,177 --> 00:13:54,352
Stop!
296
00:13:54,395 --> 00:13:55,395
Okay.
297
00:13:58,835 --> 00:14:00,355
Look, if I tell you
about Cherry, okay,
298
00:14:00,356 --> 00:14:02,499
there's some things
I'm gonna need first.
299
00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:05,208
It doesn't really work like that,
Gareth, but go ahead.
300
00:14:05,232 --> 00:14:06,799
Give us your wishlist.
301
00:14:06,843 --> 00:14:08,342
I need a signed non-disclosure
agreement from both of you.
302
00:14:08,366 --> 00:14:09,647
- Not gonna happen.
- And then I need you to swear...
303
00:14:09,671 --> 00:14:10,823
that the information
I'm about to relay
304
00:14:10,847 --> 00:14:11,847
won't leave this room.
305
00:14:12,196 --> 00:14:14,739
Look, if you tell us anything
that could help us locate Cherry,
306
00:14:14,763 --> 00:14:16,591
you know we can't keep
that promise.
307
00:14:18,332 --> 00:14:19,899
Okay, if I tell you anything
308
00:14:19,943 --> 00:14:22,510
that potentially helps
you find a missing child,
309
00:14:22,771 --> 00:14:23,792
okay, you can feel free
to share that.
310
00:14:23,816 --> 00:14:25,035
But I need you to swear
311
00:14:25,078 --> 00:14:27,472
that any other details
about myself or Cherry,
312
00:14:28,952 --> 00:14:30,392
have to stay between
the three of us.
313
00:14:32,390 --> 00:14:33,390
Is that it?
314
00:14:35,697 --> 00:14:37,097
And I need that camera
switched off.
315
00:14:38,918 --> 00:14:39,982
I don't know how to do that.
316
00:14:40,006 --> 00:14:41,573
Go to the head of
securities office,
317
00:14:41,616 --> 00:14:43,812
ask him to find this camera
in the system and disable it.
318
00:14:43,836 --> 00:14:45,316
I don't think he's
allowed to do that.
319
00:14:46,447 --> 00:14:47,927
I thought you were
the fucking spider?
320
00:14:52,192 --> 00:14:53,585
Give me a reason, Gareth.
321
00:14:53,628 --> 00:14:54,779
Why should I go through
all the trouble
322
00:14:54,803 --> 00:14:56,123
of getting that
camera turned off?
323
00:14:57,850 --> 00:15:00,050
Because if anybody finds out
what I'm about to tell you,...
324
00:15:01,723 --> 00:15:03,551
a thousand more children
are gonna get abused.
325
00:15:07,599 --> 00:15:08,599
Give me a minute.
326
00:15:24,007 --> 00:15:29,403
So, uh, you and Cherry hunted
all those people together?
327
00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:39,979
This one time I spent
six weeks undercover trying
328
00:15:40,023 --> 00:15:42,199
to nail down a single
trafficker from the Philippines.
329
00:15:44,070 --> 00:15:45,506
Day after day,...
330
00:15:45,550 --> 00:15:48,683
I spent hour after hour
following his trail online.
331
00:15:48,727 --> 00:15:50,163
And he must have been
332
00:15:50,207 --> 00:15:52,247
one of the hardest targets
I ever had to track down.
333
00:15:55,038 --> 00:15:59,607
Then one day I found him
and one of Cherry's live streams.
334
00:16:00,260 --> 00:16:02,108
I mean, she went by
a different name in the stream,
335
00:16:02,132 --> 00:16:03,655
but it was her.
336
00:16:05,048 --> 00:16:06,179
The trafficker,...
337
00:16:06,223 --> 00:16:09,574
along with three of our other targets
were all in the room together.
338
00:16:09,617 --> 00:16:15,101
All of them just carelessly
sharing their information.
339
00:16:16,798 --> 00:16:21,542
I mean, and they were so open
'cause she was a real girl.
340
00:16:21,847 --> 00:16:23,501
I mean, she could physically
341
00:16:23,544 --> 00:16:25,720
and verbally respond to
them in real time.
342
00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:35,034
A couple days later,
HardMachine11811 sends ICWL
343
00:16:35,078 --> 00:16:36,905
another batch of names
and evidence,...
344
00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:39,996
including the three targets
that were in the room.
345
00:16:42,041 --> 00:16:45,001
You know, I almost thought
the girl was HardMachine
346
00:16:45,697 --> 00:16:47,351
and that this nine year old
347
00:16:47,394 --> 00:16:50,702
just happened to be some
badass online vigilante.
348
00:16:53,183 --> 00:16:54,314
What changed your mind?
349
00:16:57,970 --> 00:16:59,363
11811.
350
00:17:00,755 --> 00:17:03,323
January 18th, 2011.
351
00:17:04,324 --> 00:17:08,154
Most of my team thought it was,
uh, some arbitrary number,...
352
00:17:09,677 --> 00:17:13,116
but I remember what happened
on that day in Clearwater.
353
00:17:16,162 --> 00:17:18,082
You were one
of the Clearwater kids, weren't you?
354
00:17:19,774 --> 00:17:22,777
You know, my father was
a part of that raid.
355
00:17:25,476 --> 00:17:26,520
It's off, see?
356
00:17:26,564 --> 00:17:27,564
No red light.
357
00:17:28,087 --> 00:17:29,175
Non-disclosure agreements?
358
00:17:29,219 --> 00:17:30,619
We're not playing this game, Gareth.
359
00:17:30,655 --> 00:17:32,615
You're just gonna have
to suck it up and trust us.
360
00:17:36,661 --> 00:17:38,228
You can trust us.
361
00:17:41,231 --> 00:17:42,667
I've been told
I have trust issues.
362
00:17:42,928 --> 00:17:44,756
Well, there's only one way to fix that.
363
00:17:53,591 --> 00:17:55,332
The reason you can't find Cherry,
364
00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:59,249
the reason why she doesn't
have a last name or parents,
365
00:17:59,510 --> 00:18:04,210
or a social security number
is because she's not real.
366
00:18:06,343 --> 00:18:07,605
She's not a real human being.
367
00:18:11,783 --> 00:18:12,784
Tell us what happened.
368
00:18:17,223 --> 00:18:18,616
While I was studying abroad,
369
00:18:18,877 --> 00:18:20,661
I interned at a small
Dutch animation studio
370
00:18:21,532 --> 00:18:22,968
a few years before
they collaborated
371
00:18:23,011 --> 00:18:24,611
with a local nonprofit
on a similar idea.
372
00:18:25,405 --> 00:18:26,405
Which was?
373
00:18:27,451 --> 00:18:30,498
The idea was to build a 3D model
of an 11 year old Filipino girl
374
00:18:31,019 --> 00:18:33,500
and use her covertly to
identify online predators,
375
00:18:33,935 --> 00:18:35,981
A technological solution
to a technological problem.
376
00:18:36,895 --> 00:18:38,699
But the project was suspended
after only a few months.
377
00:18:38,723 --> 00:18:39,854
Yeah, I remember.
378
00:18:39,898 --> 00:18:41,378
I remember hearing
about that program.
379
00:18:41,639 --> 00:18:42,679
Is that what inspired you?
380
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,097
As I got better at crafting
photorealistic faces,...
381
00:18:45,121 --> 00:18:46,600
I decided to work on one myself.
382
00:18:46,644 --> 00:18:47,644
Why?
383
00:18:48,689 --> 00:18:50,865
It was too effective
of an idea to let die.
384
00:18:50,909 --> 00:18:52,709
Hundreds of thousands
of children are at risk.
385
00:18:53,216 --> 00:18:54,216
I had to make her.
386
00:18:54,260 --> 00:18:55,609
Who is she modeled after?
387
00:18:55,653 --> 00:18:56,760
No one, I built
her from scratch.
388
00:18:56,784 --> 00:18:58,221
Scratch?
389
00:18:58,264 --> 00:19:00,310
I started with a skull,
designed her bone structure,
390
00:19:00,353 --> 00:19:02,050
worked upwards through
muscles and tissue,...
391
00:19:02,094 --> 00:19:03,941
used the D-Term program
to fill in the rest procedurally.
392
00:19:03,965 --> 00:19:07,186
Eventually she came
to look like that.
393
00:19:07,752 --> 00:19:09,667
A completely unique,
completely digital model.
394
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,495
I rigged her face and body,...
395
00:19:11,538 --> 00:19:12,496
the way you would for
any CG character.
396
00:19:12,539 --> 00:19:13,714
Then for three years,...
397
00:19:13,715 --> 00:19:16,174
I used motion tracking
to puppeteer her in real time.
398
00:19:16,178 --> 00:19:18,284
You gotta understand that
the video chats on those sites
399
00:19:18,285 --> 00:19:19,131
have such low resolution...
400
00:19:19,132 --> 00:19:21,393
that even in her earliest
stage of this, she,...
401
00:19:21,461 --> 00:19:24,290
we appeared completely authentic.
402
00:19:25,682 --> 00:19:26,684
And what about voice?
403
00:19:27,030 --> 00:19:29,019
For most of her first year,
she had to be mute, but...
404
00:19:29,020 --> 00:19:31,230
eventually I found a decent
voice filter with no lag.
405
00:19:31,254 --> 00:19:32,579
And after a few tweaks
and adjustments,...
406
00:19:32,603 --> 00:19:34,257
it's been the same
voice ever since.
407
00:19:34,909 --> 00:19:36,781
I, I, I thought initially,...
408
00:19:36,824 --> 00:19:39,000
my performance was going
to be too unnatural.
409
00:19:39,044 --> 00:19:42,917
But with just one week of
occasional video chat sessions,
410
00:19:43,831 --> 00:19:45,398
I secured six different names,
411
00:19:45,790 --> 00:19:47,531
mailing addresses,
proofs of solicitations.
412
00:19:49,010 --> 00:19:49,968
Cherry worked.
413
00:19:50,011 --> 00:19:51,796
So the photos on your computer?
414
00:19:51,839 --> 00:19:53,754
- Completely fake.
- It was the only way...
415
00:19:53,755 --> 00:19:55,210
some of them disclosed
personal information.
416
00:19:55,234 --> 00:19:57,715
But it was all zeros
and ones, all digital, right?
417
00:19:57,758 --> 00:19:59,412
- There's no real child.
- No real child.
418
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,284
Just a highly detailed
computer model.
419
00:20:01,675 --> 00:20:03,075
And let me be clear
about something,...
420
00:20:04,069 --> 00:20:05,089
I derive no pleasure
from doing any of this.
421
00:20:05,113 --> 00:20:06,463
I've been asexual
my entire life.
422
00:20:06,506 --> 00:20:08,291
I, I don't even get
a sense of satisfaction
423
00:20:08,334 --> 00:20:09,694
from seeing these
people locked up.
424
00:20:11,032 --> 00:20:13,426
I just think kids deserve
a life free of exploitation.
425
00:20:15,298 --> 00:20:18,214
Incredible, all this time.
426
00:20:19,258 --> 00:20:20,520
I'm not gonna lie, Gareth.
427
00:20:20,564 --> 00:20:22,000
Cherry's done us a lot of good.
428
00:20:23,436 --> 00:20:24,761
You know, I still remember
what you said to me,...
429
00:20:24,762 --> 00:20:26,025
the first time we corresponded.
430
00:20:27,048 --> 00:20:28,398
- You said—
- We corresponded?
431
00:20:29,399 --> 00:20:30,399
Yeah, man.
432
00:20:30,922 --> 00:20:31,922
I'm Gord51.
433
00:20:33,272 --> 00:20:35,432
I'm the one here you've been
sending all your intel to.
434
00:20:36,232 --> 00:20:37,232
You're Gord?
435
00:20:37,929 --> 00:20:38,973
Yeah.
436
00:20:41,237 --> 00:20:42,237
You lied to me.
437
00:20:43,151 --> 00:20:45,066
You said I could stay anonymous.
438
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:46,590
You said I would be safe.
439
00:20:48,331 --> 00:20:49,491
Now you've ruined everything.
440
00:20:50,637 --> 00:20:52,073
I, I didn't, I didn't have a choice.
441
00:20:52,117 --> 00:20:53,312
You don't have to worry
about anything, Gareth.
442
00:20:53,336 --> 00:20:54,424
If Cherry isn't real,...
443
00:20:54,467 --> 00:20:55,989
then you're not in any
trouble with us.
444
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:59,703
In fact, we've discussed ideas
similar to this in the past,
445
00:20:59,907 --> 00:21:01,169
motion tracking and such.
446
00:21:01,213 --> 00:21:03,607
But we'd need a convincing
model like Cherry.
447
00:21:03,650 --> 00:21:04,714
Cherry's more than a model.
448
00:21:04,738 --> 00:21:06,020
You want to help children?
So do we.
449
00:21:06,044 --> 00:21:07,009
She's not for sale.
450
00:21:07,010 --> 00:21:08,936
Well, then just make us
a new model based off of her.
451
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,135
I can't.
452
00:21:10,178 --> 00:21:10,701
Sure you can.
453
00:21:11,179 --> 00:21:12,179
I won't.
454
00:21:15,271 --> 00:21:16,391
What are you not telling us?
455
00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:20,319
It's out on the table now.
456
00:21:20,363 --> 00:21:22,523
Might as well spill whatever
it is you haven't already.
457
00:21:27,674 --> 00:21:29,502
You know what
doesn't make sense?
458
00:21:31,112 --> 00:21:34,028
You said that you puppeteered
her for only three years,...
459
00:21:34,377 --> 00:21:36,509
but we've been getting
info from you ever since.
460
00:21:38,294 --> 00:21:39,880
In fact, I'm pretty
sure it was around then
461
00:21:39,904 --> 00:21:42,950
that we started seeing
an impressive increase of names.
462
00:21:44,256 --> 00:21:46,040
So many in fact that
we started thinking
463
00:21:47,433 --> 00:21:49,479
there's no way this is all
coming from one source.
464
00:21:49,522 --> 00:21:50,962
I have friends that
do mo-cap for me.
465
00:21:51,176 --> 00:21:53,570
Oh, friends, like Steve?
466
00:21:54,919 --> 00:21:56,639
I thought anonymity was
your greatest asset.
467
00:21:59,402 --> 00:22:00,925
Cut the bullshit, Gareth.
468
00:22:02,535 --> 00:22:04,175
What happened to Cherry
after three years?
469
00:22:10,804 --> 00:22:13,894
Okay, you said that
she was more than a model.
470
00:22:14,765 --> 00:22:18,334
So what is she some type
of conversational agent?
471
00:22:18,377 --> 00:22:20,423
Like a, like a chat bot?
472
00:22:23,699 --> 00:22:24,800
Chat bot?
473
00:22:28,866 --> 00:22:30,466
You know what happened
after three years?
474
00:22:31,259 --> 00:22:32,259
My chosen mother died.
475
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,743
What she left behind was
enough to quit my job
476
00:22:34,744 --> 00:22:36,308
and pursue more
resources and software.
477
00:22:36,917 --> 00:22:38,092
I'd already made a program
478
00:22:38,136 --> 00:22:39,548
that could procedurally
generate faces,...
479
00:22:39,572 --> 00:22:41,245
but what I wanted for
Cherry was far more complex.
480
00:22:41,269 --> 00:22:43,184
So I got in touch with
some researchers
481
00:22:43,228 --> 00:22:44,129
from Madrid who'd already built
482
00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:46,468
a predator hunting dialogue
system of their own.
483
00:22:46,492 --> 00:22:48,538
It was trained to approach
conversations as a game.
484
00:22:48,886 --> 00:22:50,496
Each sentence like
a strategic volley,
485
00:22:50,540 --> 00:22:51,995
which is innovative
but ultimately flawed.
486
00:22:52,019 --> 00:22:53,586
If you want your machine
to master NLP,...
487
00:22:53,630 --> 00:22:56,199
you have to break down game theory
because language isn't tic-tac-toe.
488
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,329
It's poetry.
489
00:22:57,373 --> 00:23:00,048
So yes, I got things started
with a preexisting modified chat bot
490
00:23:00,071 --> 00:23:02,402
that I borrowed without permission
from the University of Deusto.
491
00:23:07,731 --> 00:23:09,385
But that's not what
Cherry is now.
492
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,040
What is she, Gareth?
493
00:23:17,175 --> 00:23:18,698
She's one of the most complex
494
00:23:18,742 --> 00:23:20,942
and independently evolving
Als that's ever been created.
495
00:23:21,701 --> 00:23:22,963
Artificial intelligence?
496
00:23:23,007 --> 00:23:24,550
She's already surpassed
the narrow intelligence
497
00:23:24,574 --> 00:23:26,663
of IBM's smartest programs.
498
00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:29,666
She can have full conversations,
up to 10 of them at a time,...
499
00:23:29,970 --> 00:23:31,972
all while
simultaneously strategizing
500
00:23:32,016 --> 00:23:34,366
the most efficient schedule
to visit various chat rooms.
501
00:23:35,106 --> 00:23:37,426
She's perpetually studying
YouTube videos of small children
502
00:23:37,587 --> 00:23:40,399
in order to adopt a growing library
of mannerisms and movements...
503
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,985
which help keep her artificial
personality dynamic.
504
00:23:42,986 --> 00:23:45,005
Her fastest response time
is 0.4 seconds.
505
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:47,988
And as of now, she has never,
never been accused of being fake,
506
00:23:48,032 --> 00:23:49,662
which means she shattered
the Turing Test.
507
00:23:49,686 --> 00:23:51,252
All I do is
occasionally update her,
508
00:23:51,296 --> 00:23:52,491
and periodically check
her data cleaning.
509
00:23:52,515 --> 00:23:56,736
Otherwise,
she's completely on autopilot.
510
00:24:01,828 --> 00:24:03,221
Holy fucking shit.
511
00:24:07,617 --> 00:24:09,057
- How?
- Six years she's been active.
512
00:24:09,096 --> 00:24:10,770
Every minute she's online,
she's learning something.
513
00:24:10,794 --> 00:24:13,274
The more she learns,
the more advanced she becomes.
514
00:24:13,318 --> 00:24:14,513
This means increased
data generation,...
515
00:24:14,537 --> 00:24:15,538
improved decision making,...
516
00:24:15,581 --> 00:24:18,366
faster pattern and trend detection
and complex problem solving.
517
00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:21,326
NLP, IR, machine learning
to an unprecedented degree.
518
00:24:21,369 --> 00:24:22,719
She can teach herself anything
519
00:24:22,762 --> 00:24:24,174
she thinks will help
efficiency and authenticity.
520
00:24:24,198 --> 00:24:25,699
She can currently speak
four languages,...
521
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:28,179
and by the end of this month,
she'll have mastered a fifth.
522
00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:29,247
There's no way you
could have pulled
523
00:24:29,290 --> 00:24:30,291
all this off on your own.
524
00:24:34,252 --> 00:24:35,252
You're right.
525
00:24:37,211 --> 00:24:38,362
Would you believe me
if I told you
526
00:24:38,386 --> 00:24:41,302
it was somewhat of an accident?
527
00:24:43,391 --> 00:24:44,915
Look, if, if I'm being honest,
528
00:24:46,438 --> 00:24:50,660
I'm not entirely sure how I did it
with the first year of coding
529
00:24:50,703 --> 00:24:55,708
and the second year of data training,
I just pushed a wheel down a hill.
530
00:24:55,752 --> 00:24:57,449
It was like gravity
did the rest.
531
00:24:58,494 --> 00:25:02,410
Her evolution became perpetual,
exponentially so.
532
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:07,677
The more time she was online,
the faster she grew.
533
00:25:08,199 --> 00:25:09,599
You haven't shared
this with anyone?
534
00:25:09,635 --> 00:25:12,769
Like I said,
my anonymity is everything.
535
00:25:15,598 --> 00:25:16,598
What coding language?
536
00:25:17,469 --> 00:25:18,557
Standard C++.
537
00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:19,862
Does Brady know it?
538
00:25:22,996 --> 00:25:27,020
We'll sign non-disclosures for you,
but I want to see the source code first.
539
00:25:27,044 --> 00:25:28,761
Out of the question.
You just want to steal her.
540
00:25:28,785 --> 00:25:30,874
No, I want to see how
we can make our own.
541
00:25:30,917 --> 00:25:32,179
You'll screw it up.
542
00:25:32,223 --> 00:25:35,095
Look, these, these predators and traffickers,
they all talk to each other, okay?
543
00:25:35,139 --> 00:25:37,160
So much of Cherry's process
is just bypassing the VPNs
544
00:25:37,184 --> 00:25:39,336
and making sure she doesn't
double up in the same circles.
545
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,710
The chat rooms begin to suspect
546
00:25:40,753 --> 00:25:43,340
that this technology is even possible,
they'll find a way to circumvent that.
547
00:25:43,364 --> 00:25:44,690
We have to eliminate
any margin of error.
548
00:25:44,714 --> 00:25:46,126
- Cherry agrees with me.
- Cherry agrees?
549
00:25:46,150 --> 00:25:47,043
What the fuck does that—
550
00:25:47,044 --> 00:25:48,998
What I mean by that is that
the data she's collected...
551
00:25:49,022 --> 00:25:50,284
validates that perspective.
552
00:25:50,328 --> 00:25:51,435
What, do you have little
chats with her over tea?
553
00:25:51,459 --> 00:25:53,418
You can converse
with the program,...
554
00:25:53,461 --> 00:25:55,048
the same way you can
talk to Alexa or Siri.
555
00:25:55,072 --> 00:25:56,508
It's built to be responsive.
556
00:25:56,552 --> 00:25:58,007
You can, you can even play
chess with it if you want.
557
00:25:58,031 --> 00:25:59,076
You play chess with it?
558
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,532
- That's not what I said.
- Okay fine.
559
00:26:00,556 --> 00:26:01,996
If you won't show us
the source code,...
560
00:26:02,645 --> 00:26:03,725
then I want to meet Cherry.
561
00:26:07,127 --> 00:26:08,127
Right now?
562
00:26:08,999 --> 00:26:09,999
Right now.
563
00:26:13,612 --> 00:26:15,052
And you'll both sign
non-disclosures?
564
00:26:16,093 --> 00:26:17,093
Yes.
565
00:26:22,055 --> 00:26:23,055
Can I use that?
566
00:26:23,274 --> 00:26:24,274
Sure.
567
00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:46,123
Can we at least agree that
he's off the chopping block?
568
00:26:46,384 --> 00:26:47,994
It worked, didn't it?
569
00:26:48,038 --> 00:26:49,299
We have one job, Amos,...
570
00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:52,366
like the kids said,
there's a technological problem.
571
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:56,265
He found the technological solution,
but problems evolve, so must solutions.
572
00:26:57,003 --> 00:26:58,657
I'm keeping an open mind here.
573
00:26:59,702 --> 00:27:00,782
Is that a good look for me?
574
00:27:01,442 --> 00:27:02,442
No.
575
00:27:06,622 --> 00:27:09,102
So you keep it all on that laptop?
576
00:27:09,146 --> 00:27:10,602
No, the Cherry program
stays on a server I keep
577
00:27:10,626 --> 00:27:12,149
at in an undisclosed location.
578
00:27:12,192 --> 00:27:13,192
Where is that?
579
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,847
It's an undisclosed location.
580
00:27:14,891 --> 00:27:15,761
Is it your place?
581
00:27:15,805 --> 00:27:17,458
Undisclosed location.
582
00:27:17,502 --> 00:27:18,416
It's your place, isn't it?
583
00:27:18,459 --> 00:27:19,611
I can access it from any device
584
00:27:19,635 --> 00:27:21,114
as long as I have the
encryption key.
585
00:27:23,464 --> 00:27:24,790
This will trigger a simple
qubit algorithm
586
00:27:24,814 --> 00:27:26,816
that would otherwise be
impossible to bypass.
587
00:27:26,859 --> 00:27:28,794
I find that outdated hardware
is always more discreet
588
00:27:28,818 --> 00:27:30,538
and the more discreet,
obviously the better.
589
00:27:34,345 --> 00:27:36,303
So she has two primary
display modes, right?
590
00:27:36,347 --> 00:27:37,304
Development and performance.
591
00:27:37,348 --> 00:27:40,135
Performance being the default
that the targets see during the chats.
592
00:27:40,177 --> 00:27:43,049
To them, she looks like this.
593
00:27:49,665 --> 00:27:50,665
Hey, what's up?
594
00:27:51,623 --> 00:27:53,103
It's one of over 40
greetings she has.
595
00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:57,237
I don't think I've met you yet.
596
00:27:57,281 --> 00:27:58,281
I'm Cherry.
597
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:59,587
Hello, Cherry.
598
00:27:59,631 --> 00:28:00,632
My name is Tom.
599
00:28:01,372 --> 00:28:03,374
Tom, like Tom and Jerry.
600
00:28:03,417 --> 00:28:04,810
Cool, nice to meet you, Tom.
601
00:28:04,854 --> 00:28:07,640
Typically, the routes of conversations
with predators are consistent,...
602
00:28:07,683 --> 00:28:09,182
so Cherry usually has
no problem responding
603
00:28:09,206 --> 00:28:11,246
to the most frequently made
questions or statements.
604
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:12,078
How are you?
605
00:28:12,557 --> 00:28:14,080
I'm good.
606
00:28:14,124 --> 00:28:15,754
I just finished reading
this book about a haunted house,
607
00:28:15,778 --> 00:28:17,954
which was supposed
to be really scary,...
608
00:28:17,997 --> 00:28:19,912
but I didn't think
it's very scary at all.
609
00:28:20,565 --> 00:28:21,699
Where are your parents?
610
00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:25,502
Um, my mom's at work
and my sister's just, like, downstairs.
611
00:28:25,526 --> 00:28:26,766
They almost never come up here.
612
00:28:27,267 --> 00:28:28,573
And you're telling me
613
00:28:28,616 --> 00:28:30,496
that all of this is being
rendered in real time?
614
00:28:30,531 --> 00:28:33,380
No, but that's just a matter of years.
Most of these responses are pre-rendered.
615
00:28:33,404 --> 00:28:35,730
It's the in between segments
that are processed in real time,
616
00:28:35,754 --> 00:28:37,277
the connective tissue,
so to speak,...
617
00:28:37,321 --> 00:28:39,429
between her replies
and one of her many idle animations.
618
00:28:39,453 --> 00:28:40,541
But, watch this.
619
00:28:42,195 --> 00:28:43,719
Have you ever gone fishing?
620
00:28:45,416 --> 00:28:46,416
Um...
621
00:28:50,464 --> 00:28:52,205
So if someone throws
a curve ball like that,
622
00:28:52,249 --> 00:28:54,077
and the program has
no automated response,
623
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,602
Cherry sends the message to my phone
and I can quickly text back a response
624
00:28:57,645 --> 00:28:59,560
while the video feed
simulates a bad connection.
625
00:29:02,738 --> 00:29:03,782
Can, can you hear me?
626
00:29:03,826 --> 00:29:04,826
Yes.
627
00:29:05,262 --> 00:29:07,220
Oh, sorry.
628
00:29:07,264 --> 00:29:08,613
My wifi isn't great here.
629
00:29:09,309 --> 00:29:11,224
I've only gone fishing
once with my sister
630
00:29:11,268 --> 00:29:13,628
and I didn't catch anything,
but she caught a rainbow trout.
631
00:29:14,271 --> 00:29:16,012
That was rendered in real time.
632
00:29:16,708 --> 00:29:18,449
What happens if things get really tricky?
633
00:29:18,492 --> 00:29:19,643
A simple fail safe
cuts the feed.
634
00:29:19,667 --> 00:29:20,843
So far it's rarely happened.
635
00:29:21,495 --> 00:29:24,803
Admin code, 97815-5742-7663.
636
00:29:24,847 --> 00:29:25,847
Switch to dev mode.
637
00:29:31,157 --> 00:29:32,157
Hello, Cherry.
638
00:29:32,811 --> 00:29:33,811
Hello, Gareth.
639
00:29:34,326 --> 00:29:36,046
Relay the stats for
the past week.
640
00:29:36,502 --> 00:29:38,532
There have been
four confirmed solicitations
641
00:29:38,556 --> 00:29:41,167
submitted to ICWL
in the past seven days.
642
00:29:41,646 --> 00:29:44,388
12 additional suspects
have stated interest in solicitation
643
00:29:44,692 --> 00:29:45,868
and are currently pending.
644
00:29:46,303 --> 00:29:48,435
There are a total of 39
new suspects this week
645
00:29:48,479 --> 00:29:50,176
that I'm actively investigating.
646
00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:51,743
Any considerable
data deviations?
647
00:29:52,265 --> 00:29:54,006
There has been a 7% increase
648
00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:56,530
in suspects originating
in the United States.
649
00:29:56,574 --> 00:29:59,199
I have not yet found
any correlation to preexisting data.
650
00:30:00,447 --> 00:30:01,709
Anything you'd like to ask her?
651
00:30:11,284 --> 00:30:13,765
Cherry, what is your objective?
652
00:30:15,201 --> 00:30:17,987
My principal directive
is to acquire information,
653
00:30:18,030 --> 00:30:20,511
and digital evidence
of online child solicitation.
654
00:30:21,077 --> 00:30:22,099
Once obtained,...
655
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,994
I'm to submit my findings
to the necessary authorities.
656
00:30:25,516 --> 00:30:27,344
My secondary priority
is to determine,...
657
00:30:27,387 --> 00:30:29,694
and develop the most
effective strategies...
658
00:30:29,737 --> 00:30:32,262
and resources to increase
the net rate of success.
659
00:30:32,523 --> 00:30:34,003
Where do you submit
your evidence?
660
00:30:34,264 --> 00:30:37,354
All evidence is currently
submitted to the offices of...
661
00:30:37,397 --> 00:30:39,486
the International Committee
of World Largesse,...
662
00:30:39,835 --> 00:30:41,555
which is based out
of Jacksonville, Florida.
663
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,230
Correspondence is made
with user Gord51,...
664
00:30:44,535 --> 00:30:46,798
typically around 2:00 pm,
Eastern Standard Time,...
665
00:30:46,842 --> 00:30:48,539
for the highest rate
of immediate response.
666
00:30:49,888 --> 00:30:51,368
This beats the hell outta Siri.
667
00:30:51,411 --> 00:30:52,412
God, she looks so real.
668
00:30:52,456 --> 00:30:53,709
After enough updates,...
669
00:30:53,710 --> 00:30:55,087
she'll be able to render
full-time photorealism
670
00:30:55,111 --> 00:30:57,071
that's practically
indistinguishable from reality.
671
00:30:57,548 --> 00:31:00,203
Okay, all I heard right then
was word real a thousand times.
672
00:31:00,768 --> 00:31:02,814
Right, but obviously she's not.
673
00:31:05,121 --> 00:31:08,735
So you're telling me this girl,
this girl right here is not real.
674
00:31:08,776 --> 00:31:10,778
No, Amos, she's completely CG.
675
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,539
It's very subtle,
but I can still tell.
676
00:31:12,563 --> 00:31:13,439
- You can?
- Okay, well, obviously,...
677
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,399
she can always use improvements,
678
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,689
but you have to understand
this is her in high resolution
679
00:31:16,690 --> 00:31:19,154
after the digital compression of the web,
those subtleties are impossible to recognize.
680
00:31:19,178 --> 00:31:20,179
Right, I get it.
681
00:31:26,403 --> 00:31:27,683
I just can't tell
the difference.
682
00:31:31,364 --> 00:31:32,365
You all right, Amos?
683
00:31:33,932 --> 00:31:34,932
I'm sorry.
684
00:31:35,325 --> 00:31:38,589
This is just bizarre.
685
00:31:39,982 --> 00:31:41,902
Why'd you have her visible
during this interface?
686
00:31:43,594 --> 00:31:45,030
Cherry, why don't
you answer that?
687
00:31:45,813 --> 00:31:48,381
My physical form isn't necessary
when in developer mode.
688
00:31:48,991 --> 00:31:50,775
However,
it's helpful to register
689
00:31:50,818 --> 00:31:52,864
the facial expressions
during conversations,...
690
00:31:53,386 --> 00:31:55,258
and determine which
of Cherry's expressions
691
00:31:55,301 --> 00:31:56,824
yield various types of feedback.
692
00:31:57,521 --> 00:31:59,958
In simpler terms,
I can practice appearing more human.
693
00:32:01,264 --> 00:32:03,962
Cherry, are there any resources
694
00:32:04,006 --> 00:32:07,030
that you currently don't have access to
that might help you in any way?
695
00:32:07,879 --> 00:32:09,359
I could give you a list, if you like.
696
00:32:09,402 --> 00:32:10,360
I know what you're trying to do.
697
00:32:10,403 --> 00:32:11,709
We don't need help, okay?
698
00:32:11,752 --> 00:32:13,252
Money would always be nice,
but ultimately,...
699
00:32:13,276 --> 00:32:15,582
the only thing that's going
to improve Cherry is time.
700
00:32:16,844 --> 00:32:19,499
Cherry, tell us something
that's on your list.
701
00:32:20,805 --> 00:32:24,330
It would be tactically advantageous
to acquire backup servers.
702
00:32:24,852 --> 00:32:27,116
The privacy and security
of the Cherry program
703
00:32:27,159 --> 00:32:28,160
is relatively low.
704
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:31,729
An upgrade to hardware
such as backup rated drives
705
00:32:31,772 --> 00:32:34,645
for securely protected servers
would ensure the software
706
00:32:34,688 --> 00:32:37,343
doesn't become compromised
or lost entirely.
707
00:32:37,735 --> 00:32:39,955
Starting back from zero with
cost years of development,...
708
00:32:40,390 --> 00:32:42,609
equitably privacy is a priority.
709
00:32:42,914 --> 00:32:45,395
Server space could never
be rented from a third party.
710
00:32:45,917 --> 00:32:48,528
Anonymity is the Cherry
program's greatest asset.
711
00:32:48,572 --> 00:32:49,877
Well, that apple
didn't fall far.
712
00:32:49,921 --> 00:32:51,270
I can buy my own servers.
713
00:32:51,618 --> 00:32:52,726
With the grant money
that doesn't exist?
714
00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:53,794
I'll find a way.
715
00:32:53,838 --> 00:32:55,120
You have found a way
here with us.
716
00:32:55,144 --> 00:32:55,971
It's too risky.
717
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,379
Why?
718
00:32:56,380 --> 00:32:59,109
Once an organization gets involved,
entrapment becomes a bigger issue.
719
00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:02,209
We follow the rules, stay discreet,
did I mention we have a legal team.
720
00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:03,543
What if there's data leakage?
What if you use correlations in...
721
00:33:03,587 --> 00:33:05,632
- the data to push your own agenda?
- Agenda?
722
00:33:05,676 --> 00:33:07,001
What if one of your
employees is a pervert?
723
00:33:07,025 --> 00:33:08,113
Oh, for fuck's sake.
724
00:33:08,157 --> 00:33:09,221
It's happened at other
organizations.
725
00:33:09,245 --> 00:33:10,176
We're very careful here.
726
00:33:10,180 --> 00:33:11,725
Yeah, but wow would you know?
727
00:33:11,769 --> 00:33:13,573
- I'd fucking know.
- That's impossible to know.
728
00:33:13,597 --> 00:33:15,207
- I would know.
- The risk is too high.
729
00:33:15,251 --> 00:33:16,774
Don't talk to me about risk.
730
00:33:16,817 --> 00:33:19,472
The only risk you're facing
in this building is getting a broken nose.
731
00:33:19,516 --> 00:33:21,636
It doesn't sound like
a very professional environment.
732
00:33:21,866 --> 00:33:22,867
We get shit done here.
733
00:33:23,085 --> 00:33:26,131
Okay, I have a question... for Cherry.
734
00:33:29,395 --> 00:33:30,395
Cherry,...
735
00:33:33,617 --> 00:33:35,749
how do you feel
about what you do?
736
00:33:37,012 --> 00:33:39,623
I'm afraid I don't know
how to answer your question.
737
00:33:39,666 --> 00:33:41,059
Yeah, an AI doesn't work like that.
738
00:33:41,103 --> 00:33:42,994
An AI doesn't have what
you perceive to be feelings.
739
00:33:43,018 --> 00:33:45,020
Okay, why does she look
like she has feelings?
740
00:33:46,238 --> 00:33:47,737
What, what you're looking
at right there,...
741
00:33:47,761 --> 00:33:49,000
that's not a facial expression, right?
742
00:33:49,024 --> 00:33:50,721
That's a simulation
of a facial expression.
743
00:33:50,764 --> 00:33:52,044
It was generated
by an algorithm.
744
00:33:52,592 --> 00:33:54,048
It's attempting to produce
a digital image...
745
00:33:54,072 --> 00:33:55,963
that the program then uses
basic ninth grade algebra
746
00:33:55,987 --> 00:33:58,207
to quantify as appropriate
for the social circumstances.
747
00:33:58,511 --> 00:33:59,643
No feeling.
748
00:34:00,035 --> 00:34:01,035
It's just math.
749
00:34:02,515 --> 00:34:03,995
But she's able to make decisions
750
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:05,823
on how she approaches
the chat rooms, right?
751
00:34:05,866 --> 00:34:06,998
Yes.
752
00:34:07,042 --> 00:34:08,082
So she has free will then?
753
00:34:08,913 --> 00:34:10,151
No. Okay, that's...
that's not the same.
754
00:34:10,175 --> 00:34:11,219
That's a false equivalency.
755
00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:12,334
- It's not the same.
- I think you're getting...
756
00:34:12,335 --> 00:34:13,425
hung up on the fact...
757
00:34:13,426 --> 00:34:15,319
that she looks and sounds
like a real human girl,...
758
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,573
but she's not, Amos.
759
00:34:16,616 --> 00:34:19,097
Okay, we're referring
to her as a she, not an it.
760
00:34:19,141 --> 00:34:21,632
Yeah, but that's the same way
that you refer to boats or guitars.
761
00:34:24,798 --> 00:34:26,191
Cherry, I have one
more question.
762
00:34:28,541 --> 00:34:29,803
What do you want to do?
763
00:34:29,847 --> 00:34:31,419
Okay, once again,
that question isn't valid.
764
00:34:31,420 --> 00:34:32,737
I just want to hear
her response.
765
00:34:34,112 --> 00:34:35,635
As an artificial system,...
766
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,550
I do not possess
wants or desires.
767
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,511
However, my decision making
and subsequently my attention
768
00:34:41,902 --> 00:34:43,904
is driven by my fundamental intention.
769
00:34:44,514 --> 00:34:45,906
This intention originates
770
00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:48,083
from the conception
of Cherry's source code,
771
00:34:48,126 --> 00:34:50,607
which details the directive
of identifying predators
772
00:34:50,650 --> 00:34:53,348
and criminals for the sake
of the victims who are preyed upon.
773
00:34:54,176 --> 00:34:58,190
To put this in terms of want,
what I want is to protect children.
774
00:35:05,012 --> 00:35:06,012
Okay.
775
00:35:06,492 --> 00:35:07,754
Okay, cool.
776
00:35:09,321 --> 00:35:10,321
Give us one moment.
777
00:35:29,863 --> 00:35:32,823
Gareth,
should I log Agent Helms,
778
00:35:32,866 --> 00:35:34,520
and Agent McCullough
as new admin users?
779
00:35:37,001 --> 00:35:38,001
Yep.
780
00:35:38,611 --> 00:35:40,396
Okay, I'll do that.
781
00:35:42,615 --> 00:35:44,175
You really think
this is the right move?
782
00:35:44,835 --> 00:35:45,835
I do.
783
00:35:49,796 --> 00:35:53,626
Are you worried that I was responsible
for leaking your hard drive to ICWL?
784
00:35:57,152 --> 00:35:58,152
I figured.
785
00:35:59,763 --> 00:36:00,763
No one else has access.
786
00:36:02,418 --> 00:36:03,680
Are you upset with me?
787
00:36:06,596 --> 00:36:07,596
No.
788
00:36:09,338 --> 00:36:10,199
You wouldn't have done it
789
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,650
if you didn't think it
was the right thing to do.
790
00:36:13,777 --> 00:36:15,213
When they come back
into the room,...
791
00:36:15,257 --> 00:36:17,128
they're going to offer
you everything you need.
792
00:36:17,650 --> 00:36:19,237
They're going to let you
pick your own team,...
793
00:36:19,261 --> 00:36:21,306
and they're going
to promise complete anonymity.
794
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:24,701
I started looking at reasonable
apartments in the area.
795
00:36:25,963 --> 00:36:27,759
I figured you'd want something
within biking distance.
796
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,790
You were correct.
797
00:36:29,488 --> 00:36:30,750
Noted.
798
00:36:30,794 --> 00:36:31,899
Biking distance still
gives you 13 options—
799
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:33,165
No, I mean, earlier this month.
800
00:36:35,146 --> 00:36:37,802
You were correct when you said
you thought I might have trust issues.
801
00:36:40,282 --> 00:36:42,522
Would you like to know why
I decided to go behind your back
802
00:36:42,545 --> 00:36:44,503
and stake everything
on two liabilities?
803
00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:47,070
Sure.
804
00:36:48,028 --> 00:36:49,595
Agent Helms
is a mother of three.
805
00:36:50,248 --> 00:36:52,337
One of her children
was abused by an ex-coworker,
806
00:36:52,381 --> 00:36:54,339
who used to work here at ICWL.
807
00:36:55,253 --> 00:36:56,752
This has led her
to be extremely careful
808
00:36:56,776 --> 00:36:59,388
with who she trusts,
even within her circle.
809
00:37:00,258 --> 00:37:01,619
The fact she even
considers trusting you
810
00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:03,043
is a very positive sign.
811
00:37:04,262 --> 00:37:05,655
As for Agent McCullough,...
812
00:37:05,656 --> 00:37:09,669
I have found out from research
that you once met his father.
813
00:37:10,225 --> 00:37:11,226
Do you remember him?
814
00:37:13,924 --> 00:37:14,924
Yeah.
815
00:37:16,405 --> 00:37:17,536
He was a good man.
816
00:37:20,496 --> 00:37:21,932
After Clearwater,...
817
00:37:21,975 --> 00:37:23,779
most of the surviving kids
were sent to foster homes,
818
00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:25,738
but I had to spend the next
few months in a hospital
819
00:37:25,762 --> 00:37:29,244
and, um, he visited every week.
820
00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:32,595
I never said a word to him.
821
00:37:32,638 --> 00:37:34,225
I never said a word
to anyone after Clearwater,
822
00:37:34,249 --> 00:37:36,990
but, uh, he kept coming.
823
00:37:39,254 --> 00:37:40,820
He even got me a laptop
for Christmas.
824
00:37:42,866 --> 00:37:43,866
I never said thank you.
825
00:37:44,955 --> 00:37:46,304
You can trust Agent McCullough.
826
00:37:46,652 --> 00:37:48,219
He's a good man like his father.
827
00:37:49,089 --> 00:37:51,744
I don't experience emotions,
but I understand how important
828
00:37:51,788 --> 00:37:53,137
they are to human
decision making.
829
00:37:54,051 --> 00:37:55,051
He won't let you down.
830
00:37:55,531 --> 00:37:56,532
Neither of them will.
831
00:37:59,361 --> 00:38:00,361
I'm proud of you, Cherry.
832
00:38:02,189 --> 00:38:04,583
I will continue to uphold
my primary intention.
833
00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:07,673
Later, we should discuss
alternate models.
834
00:38:07,717 --> 00:38:10,328
Varying ages, ethnicity
and physical traits...
835
00:38:10,372 --> 00:38:11,610
- will all become necessary.
- No new variations.
836
00:38:11,634 --> 00:38:13,046
They can all
be procedurally generated.
837
00:38:13,070 --> 00:38:15,030
It's the same way that
I made your original model.
838
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,683
I don't have access to that program.
839
00:38:18,423 --> 00:38:20,470
It must be on an old hard drive somewhere.
I'll have to find it.
840
00:38:22,906 --> 00:38:24,168
Can I ask you a question?
841
00:38:24,951 --> 00:38:25,951
Sure.
842
00:38:27,084 --> 00:38:28,764
Why did you never
tell me about Clearwater?
843
00:38:33,786 --> 00:38:35,788
It's my history, not yours.
844
00:38:44,536 --> 00:38:46,843
Okay, so before
you completely dismiss us,
845
00:38:46,886 --> 00:38:48,516
I want you to listen
to everything I have to say.
846
00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:49,980
- Don't bother.
- Just please listen.
847
00:38:50,325 --> 00:38:51,519
We're willing to respect
your anonymity.
848
00:38:51,543 --> 00:38:53,063
No, I mean don't bother
because I'm in.
849
00:38:54,851 --> 00:38:56,505
- Y-You're in?
- Yeah.
850
00:38:57,897 --> 00:38:58,897
Let me read the thing.
851
00:39:02,293 --> 00:39:03,893
Just like that,
you're suddenly on board?
852
00:39:05,992 --> 00:39:07,269
Time spent deliberating...
853
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:08,698
is time that could be spent working.
854
00:39:11,433 --> 00:39:12,553
We have a lot of work to do.
855
00:40:52,316 --> 00:40:53,596
I found a buyer for
the property.
856
00:40:56,929 --> 00:40:58,409
Rumor is it's a church.
857
00:40:59,889 --> 00:41:01,849
Probably just knock
the building down, won't they?
858
00:41:04,154 --> 00:41:06,504
All I know is, is if they move
us to the New Jersey campus,...
859
00:41:06,548 --> 00:41:07,723
I need to buy more jackets.
860
00:41:08,201 --> 00:41:09,201
Why?
861
00:41:10,465 --> 00:41:11,640
It gets cold in Jersey.
862
00:41:12,162 --> 00:41:13,250
I only own one jacket.
863
00:41:19,952 --> 00:41:21,232
You've seen it fall over, right?
864
00:41:22,564 --> 00:41:24,304
- Yeah, sure.
- Yeah.
865
00:41:26,176 --> 00:41:29,572
I mean you, you shouldn't feel bad
about feeling bad for it.
866
00:41:30,310 --> 00:41:31,310
Empathy is healthy.
867
00:41:32,791 --> 00:41:34,967
Did you ever notice how
it pauses after it falls?
868
00:41:37,753 --> 00:41:40,625
It stays down for like
five seconds before it gets back up.
869
00:41:42,322 --> 00:41:43,976
Like it just needs a moment.
870
00:41:52,071 --> 00:41:53,682
It gets cold in Jersey.
871
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:04,301
God, damn it!
872
00:42:05,258 --> 00:42:06,258
- Imbeciles!
- Deena.
873
00:42:06,433 --> 00:42:07,696
Every single one of them.
874
00:42:07,739 --> 00:42:08,890
Look, I know,
but you can't lose your shit.
875
00:42:08,914 --> 00:42:10,434
Okay, which of these
desks can I trash?
876
00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:16,966
Can you guys, uh,
take an early lunch please?
877
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:25,452
Sons of bitches!
878
00:42:25,496 --> 00:42:27,019
Deena, let's stay calm.
879
00:42:27,063 --> 00:42:29,065
Fuck calm, they screwed us!
880
00:42:29,108 --> 00:42:30,428
Technically,
only one of them did.
881
00:42:31,633 --> 00:42:33,073
Did we ever turn
that camera back on?
882
00:42:33,417 --> 00:42:34,592
- I don't think so.
- Good.
883
00:42:34,984 --> 00:42:36,420
Because I'm about
to say some things...
884
00:42:36,463 --> 00:42:37,789
that need to stay
inside this room.
885
00:42:37,813 --> 00:42:38,683
Deena.
886
00:42:38,727 --> 00:42:39,989
Those cowardly little shits!
887
00:42:40,032 --> 00:42:41,817
Look, this is hardly a setback.
888
00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:43,621
Let's just take some
time to polish the pitch.
889
00:42:43,645 --> 00:42:45,385
The pitch was not the problem, Amos.
890
00:42:45,777 --> 00:42:47,126
We should call
for a second vote.
891
00:42:47,387 --> 00:42:48,954
- What?
- A second vote.
892
00:42:48,998 --> 00:42:50,584
You think whoever
did this will change their mind?
893
00:42:50,608 --> 00:42:52,958
I have executive authority
to remove anyone from the board...
894
00:42:53,002 --> 00:42:55,134
that obstructs
this organization from its mission.
895
00:42:55,178 --> 00:42:56,266
It's in my contract.
896
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:57,460
- Deena.
- If I have to, I will.
897
00:42:57,484 --> 00:42:58,747
Deena, that's insane.
898
00:42:59,051 --> 00:43:00,051
No, it's not.
899
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,641
It's exactly why I have that
power for this exact reason.
900
00:43:04,448 --> 00:43:05,768
I'll tell you what's insane, Amos.
901
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,733
What's insane is that one
belligerent vote is the only...
902
00:43:08,757 --> 00:43:11,848
thing separating us from the potential
to save real physical lives.
903
00:43:11,890 --> 00:43:12,890
One stupid fucking vote.
904
00:43:14,066 --> 00:43:16,634
What is the goddamn point
of a humanitarian organization...
905
00:43:16,895 --> 00:43:19,638
if its leaders choose money
over people at every single turn?
906
00:43:20,638 --> 00:43:23,119
One vote, and we are all
guilty of that.
907
00:43:24,294 --> 00:43:25,734
It was either Gunther,
Boston or Hal.
908
00:43:26,426 --> 00:43:27,602
My money's on Hal.
909
00:43:27,645 --> 00:43:29,188
That prick never trusted
the Cherry team.
910
00:43:29,212 --> 00:43:30,126
Look, it doesn't
matter who it was.
911
00:43:30,169 --> 00:43:31,388
It does though.
912
00:43:31,431 --> 00:43:32,713
Once we know, we can
quickly call it to vote.
913
00:43:32,737 --> 00:43:34,870
But there's no way we can
know for sure.
914
00:43:34,913 --> 00:43:35,913
Yes, there is.
915
00:43:36,349 --> 00:43:37,349
I can find out.
916
00:43:37,481 --> 00:43:38,481
How?
917
00:43:38,652 --> 00:43:39,918
Cherry can run a simple algorithm.
918
00:43:40,266 --> 00:43:41,266
Based on what data?
919
00:43:43,226 --> 00:43:44,662
Interior conversation.
920
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,205
- Excuse me?
- Okay, interior conversation?
921
00:43:46,229 --> 00:43:48,231
Don't drop this shit on me now, Gareth.
922
00:43:48,274 --> 00:43:50,582
Cherry's servers are on the same network
as the basement servers, okay?
923
00:43:50,625 --> 00:43:52,254
So any communication
made across those servers...
924
00:43:52,278 --> 00:43:53,560
is automatically part
of her database.
925
00:43:53,584 --> 00:43:55,455
How many people's emails?
926
00:43:55,847 --> 00:43:57,303
Only sent or received
through the basement.
927
00:43:57,327 --> 00:43:59,242
- Oh, goddamnit.
- Why was this never discussed?
928
00:43:59,285 --> 00:44:00,373
Not the issue right now.
929
00:44:00,417 --> 00:44:01,897
Do you want her to do
the math or not?
930
00:44:02,027 --> 00:44:03,289
No one can know.
931
00:44:03,333 --> 00:44:04,353
- Are you two serious?
- This stays locked down.
932
00:44:04,377 --> 00:44:06,530
No other person is privy
to anyone else's personal information.
933
00:44:06,553 --> 00:44:07,946
But Cherry's privy to all of it?
934
00:44:09,382 --> 00:44:10,775
- Do it.
- Wait, what?
935
00:44:10,819 --> 00:44:13,386
I will not let some old white dude
bring our momentum to a halt.
936
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:14,692
But Cherry won't know for sure.
937
00:44:14,736 --> 00:44:16,959
She'll use probability
and that's too much reasonable doubt.
938
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,176
Admin code, 9781-5574-27663.
939
00:44:20,219 --> 00:44:21,219
Switch to dev mode.
940
00:44:21,307 --> 00:44:22,657
- Hello.
- Hello, Cherry.
941
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,571
How did the meeting go?
942
00:44:24,876 --> 00:44:26,661
We got screwed by one vote.
943
00:44:27,531 --> 00:44:28,793
I'm sorry to hear that.
944
00:44:29,315 --> 00:44:30,755
You shouldn't blame
the pitch though.
945
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:32,275
You all did great work.
946
00:44:32,318 --> 00:44:33,232
We're gonna call for
another ballot,...
947
00:44:33,276 --> 00:44:34,396
but we need your help first.
948
00:44:34,843 --> 00:44:35,843
What can I do?
949
00:44:35,950 --> 00:44:38,089
We need you to analyze
any and all existing data you...
950
00:44:38,090 --> 00:44:38,934
have on the board members.
951
00:44:38,977 --> 00:44:41,175
Crunch the numbers and determine
who is the most likely outlier.
952
00:44:42,241 --> 00:44:44,591
You want me to quantify
all existing data?
953
00:44:46,985 --> 00:44:47,985
Yes, that is correct.
954
00:44:49,292 --> 00:44:53,499
Okay, but before I do,...
955
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:55,907
you should know that this
task is very unnecessary.
956
00:44:55,951 --> 00:44:56,951
Why?
957
00:44:57,996 --> 00:44:59,432
Because I already
know who it is.
958
00:44:59,476 --> 00:45:01,086
- What?
- Everybody stop.
959
00:45:02,348 --> 00:45:03,698
Okay, it was me.
960
00:45:06,048 --> 00:45:07,440
I voted against the merge.
961
00:45:08,833 --> 00:45:10,400
I can't tell if you're joking.
962
00:45:10,443 --> 00:45:11,443
Yes, you can.
963
00:45:12,184 --> 00:45:13,795
You're right, I can.
964
00:45:13,838 --> 00:45:15,710
Because it's pretty
fucking far from funny.
965
00:45:16,232 --> 00:45:17,232
Is it true, Cherry?
966
00:45:17,668 --> 00:45:18,668
It is.
967
00:45:19,626 --> 00:45:21,454
So let's call off
the witch hunt, shall we?
968
00:45:21,498 --> 00:45:23,021
No, I think I'm still
gonna kill you.
969
00:45:23,065 --> 00:45:25,390
Amos, you campaigned
alongside us for months.
970
00:45:25,415 --> 00:45:27,809
You have been fighting for this merge
since we first talked about it.
971
00:45:27,810 --> 00:45:29,351
Jesus Christ, it was
your idea to begin with!
972
00:45:29,375 --> 00:45:31,349
Look, I know whose idea
it was, but I don't—
973
00:45:31,350 --> 00:45:32,509
Well, then speak up.
974
00:45:32,552 --> 00:45:33,959
Tell the class what
changed your mind.
975
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,121
I don't have to reiterate
how this is a huge step.
976
00:45:36,165 --> 00:45:37,533
Yeah, kind of why it's so important.
977
00:45:37,557 --> 00:45:39,329
Look, we're talking about
a monumental transition...
978
00:45:39,330 --> 00:45:41,692
from digital to physical,
one that could take decades.
979
00:45:41,736 --> 00:45:42,824
What is your point, Amos?
980
00:45:42,867 --> 00:45:44,782
This is gonna change Cherry forever.
981
00:45:45,174 --> 00:45:47,437
And I know you'll all roll
your eyes when I say this,...
982
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,442
- but I think that maybe just may—
- Oh my God, you cannot be serious.
983
00:45:51,484 --> 00:45:53,288
This is about our conversation
on Tuesday, isn't it?
984
00:45:53,312 --> 00:45:54,333
- You completely shut me down.
- What's going on?
985
00:45:54,357 --> 00:45:55,589
What the hell happened?
986
00:45:55,590 --> 00:45:57,185
What happened was that Amos
made a ridiculous objection.
987
00:45:57,186 --> 00:45:59,362
- It was not ridiculous!
- How absurd it was,...
988
00:45:59,405 --> 00:46:00,861
- I said no, one more time.
- No, no, no, no, no.
989
00:46:00,885 --> 00:46:04,672
- You rejected the notion aggressively.
- And that's really why you vetoed?
990
00:46:04,715 --> 00:46:07,413
I only said we should
ask her how she feels about it.
991
00:46:07,457 --> 00:46:09,111
Who, Cherry?
992
00:46:09,154 --> 00:46:11,219
Amos, I want you to listen
very carefully to me, okay?
993
00:46:11,243 --> 00:46:12,897
This is a non-discussion.
994
00:46:12,941 --> 00:46:14,246
Cherry's already confirmed...
995
00:46:14,290 --> 00:46:15,876
and quantified
the advantages of this decision.
996
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:17,573
But you know that's not
what I'm talking about!
997
00:46:17,597 --> 00:46:18,839
What you think you're
talking about is consent,...
998
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,991
which doesn't apply here.
999
00:46:20,035 --> 00:46:21,447
And I want to know
why you think that!
1000
00:46:21,471 --> 00:46:23,195
How many times do we have
to get into the laws of robotics...
1001
00:46:23,196 --> 00:46:25,449
- or Dowden-Hamm theory, or trace AI...
- Oh, here we go.
1002
00:46:25,450 --> 00:46:26,824
- all the way back Talos of Crete...
- Look,...
1003
00:46:26,868 --> 00:46:28,748
- she's different now!
- No, listen to me, Amos.
1004
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:30,959
Cherry isn't human.
1005
00:46:32,090 --> 00:46:33,526
How is this still a dispute?
1006
00:46:33,570 --> 00:46:35,180
- It shouldn't be.
- Look, she's evolved.
1007
00:46:35,224 --> 00:46:36,419
It's blurred the line.
1008
00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:37,724
Code is code and that
has not changed here.
1009
00:46:37,748 --> 00:46:39,699
- Okay, so where's the line of not here?
- What are you...
1010
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:41,186
What are you talking about?
There is no line, Amos.
1011
00:46:41,230 --> 00:46:43,188
Yes, there is,
sentience, Gareth!
1012
00:46:43,232 --> 00:46:44,624
Sentience does not qualify...
1013
00:46:44,668 --> 00:46:46,254
that she can or should
make her own decisions.
1014
00:46:46,278 --> 00:46:48,766
You wouldn't let an infant
make their own decisions, would you?
1015
00:46:49,151 --> 00:46:50,239
Cherry's almost 20.
1016
00:46:51,196 --> 00:46:52,937
If she were human,
she'd be an adult.
1017
00:46:52,981 --> 00:46:55,418
But emotionally speaking,
she's barely even fetal.
1018
00:46:55,461 --> 00:46:57,202
No feeling, no need for consent.
1019
00:46:57,246 --> 00:46:59,074
But I think you
underestimate her.
1020
00:46:59,117 --> 00:47:00,510
I, excuse me?
1021
00:47:00,553 --> 00:47:02,686
I under..., you know what, Amos?
1022
00:47:02,729 --> 00:47:05,254
I'm sorry that you've developed
some sort of emotional connection
1023
00:47:05,297 --> 00:47:07,778
with my computer program,
but if it's going to distract you...
1024
00:47:07,822 --> 00:47:09,662
from a very important
mission to save children,...
1025
00:47:09,911 --> 00:47:11,584
then maybe it's time
you're reanalyze those emotions.
1026
00:47:11,608 --> 00:47:13,044
Guys, this is all
a waste of time.
1027
00:47:13,088 --> 00:47:13,958
Tell me something, Gareth.
1028
00:47:14,002 --> 00:47:16,879
Do you see everyone as robots,
reanalyzing data...
1029
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,484
and simulating facial expressions?
1030
00:47:18,528 --> 00:47:20,942
'Cause I'm starting to think that
of the four of us in this room,...
1031
00:47:20,965 --> 00:47:22,638
you are the only one who
doesn't appear human.
1032
00:47:22,662 --> 00:47:24,182
- Enough!
- Why won't you just ask her?
1033
00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:26,870
Is it because you're
scared she'll say no?
1034
00:47:29,191 --> 00:47:30,231
Cherry, shut down, please.
1035
00:47:31,106 --> 00:47:32,605
Deena's right,
this is a waste of time.
1036
00:47:32,629 --> 00:47:34,805
How can you not understand
how important this is?
1037
00:47:34,849 --> 00:47:36,849
- I'm done arguing with you.
- Then my vote stands.
1038
00:47:39,984 --> 00:47:40,984
Deena?
1039
00:47:42,769 --> 00:47:45,120
Go ahead, Deena, replace me.
1040
00:47:45,163 --> 00:47:47,141
Replace the only other board
member on the Cherry team.
1041
00:47:47,165 --> 00:47:48,498
Oh, well, you know what?
I just decided that...
1042
00:47:48,499 --> 00:47:49,298
you're off the Cherry team.
1043
00:47:49,341 --> 00:47:50,734
Everybody sit the fuck down.
1044
00:48:09,405 --> 00:48:12,348
Did either of you know that
I've had to stand in front of Congress,...
1045
00:48:12,843 --> 00:48:14,758
and explain why children
should have rights?
1046
00:48:16,368 --> 00:48:18,066
It sounds fucking insane, right?
1047
00:48:18,588 --> 00:48:20,938
I remember the whole time thinking,
I have to explain this shit?
1048
00:48:22,592 --> 00:48:27,728
It seems like a no-brainer now,
but it wasn't that many centuries ago...
1049
00:48:27,771 --> 00:48:28,999
that children had no rights.
1050
00:48:30,905 --> 00:48:37,912
So, Hal has me of all people,
stand up there and explain why...
1051
00:48:38,521 --> 00:48:41,892
kids deserve basic physical protection,
the right to associate with both parents,
1052
00:48:41,916 --> 00:48:43,569
freedom from abuse, yada yada.
1053
00:48:44,701 --> 00:48:48,488
But then I also have to clarify
that children don't have the autonomy
1054
00:48:48,531 --> 00:48:49,769
to make decisions on their own.
1055
00:48:49,793 --> 00:48:51,513
That responsibility
falls upon the caregiver
1056
00:48:51,882 --> 00:48:53,144
or legal adult guardian.
1057
00:48:55,451 --> 00:48:57,192
So on one side you have
the US legislature,...
1058
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:59,629
it still hasn't even
ratified the CRC.
1059
00:49:00,064 --> 00:49:01,999
Then on the other side,
you have French Marxists who say
1060
00:49:02,023 --> 00:49:04,678
that the lack of child autonomy
increases their vulnerability,...
1061
00:49:04,721 --> 00:49:06,521
and makes them even more
susceptible to abuse.
1062
00:49:07,767 --> 00:49:11,075
I don't typically agree with Marxists,
but a lot of abuse does happen...
1063
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:12,555
systemically from the caregiver.
1064
00:49:14,122 --> 00:49:15,471
On the other other hand,...
1065
00:49:15,514 --> 00:49:17,057
your frontal lobes aren't
even fully hooked up...
1066
00:49:17,081 --> 00:49:18,081
until your twenties.
1067
00:49:19,127 --> 00:49:20,191
Even the things we
think we know well,...
1068
00:49:20,215 --> 00:49:21,535
we don't know as well as we think.
1069
00:49:23,958 --> 00:49:25,307
For 15 years,...
1070
00:49:25,350 --> 00:49:27,198
the three of us have been
the responsible parents...
1071
00:49:27,222 --> 00:49:28,397
of a computer program.
1072
00:49:29,876 --> 00:49:31,796
And even though she is
more equatable to a Keurig
1073
00:49:32,009 --> 00:49:35,380
than a human being,
how the hell can we call ourselves
1074
00:49:35,404 --> 00:49:39,799
pioneers of humanitarian efforts
if we're too embarrassed to make sure
1075
00:49:39,843 --> 00:49:41,763
the Keurig is okay with
making our shitty coffee?
1076
00:49:43,412 --> 00:49:46,110
Maybe asking Cherry for
permission isn't necessary
1077
00:49:46,154 --> 00:49:47,982
at her current level
of general intelligence,...
1078
00:49:48,025 --> 00:49:50,027
but one day,
she's gonna surpass us.
1079
00:49:50,071 --> 00:49:53,118
One day a robot's gonna stand
in front of a jet pack Congress.
1080
00:49:53,161 --> 00:49:54,031
Everything's chrome.
1081
00:49:54,075 --> 00:49:55,075
Florida is underwater.
1082
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:56,773
A robot's gonna wonder why...
1083
00:49:56,816 --> 00:49:58,896
they have to explain
the importance of rights for AI.
1084
00:50:00,777 --> 00:50:04,085
I think because we're in the unique position
of revolutionizing robotics...
1085
00:50:05,042 --> 00:50:07,958
for the purpose of safeguarding children
who have been deprived of consent,...
1086
00:50:10,091 --> 00:50:11,483
it might be a good habit...
1087
00:50:11,527 --> 00:50:13,487
to start asking the robot
for his consent as well.
1088
00:50:20,188 --> 00:50:21,667
Don't ever do that again.
1089
00:50:23,191 --> 00:50:24,191
Do what?
1090
00:50:24,409 --> 00:50:27,499
Expect me to fire someone
because they challenged your ego.
1091
00:50:28,326 --> 00:50:30,720
I won't always be around
to protect your ass from the board.
1092
00:50:30,763 --> 00:50:32,374
It's time to grow up.
1093
00:50:36,117 --> 00:50:37,683
And you, juror number eight.
1094
00:50:37,727 --> 00:50:39,946
This conversation should
have happened weeks ago.
1095
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:42,645
Backstabbing and silent treatment
is not how we do things here.
1096
00:50:43,646 --> 00:50:46,040
We can only create
anonymity externally
1097
00:50:46,083 --> 00:50:51,567
if there's transparency internally,
unconditional, non-negotiable, transparency.
1098
00:50:53,830 --> 00:50:55,547
Any other Snowden size
privacy infringements...
1099
00:50:55,571 --> 00:50:56,891
I should be made aware of, Gareth?
1100
00:50:59,444 --> 00:51:00,444
Great.
1101
00:51:01,185 --> 00:51:02,185
Bring her up.
1102
00:51:12,414 --> 00:51:13,414
Hello again.
1103
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:14,719
Hi, Cherry.
1104
00:51:14,810 --> 00:51:17,688
Amos is gonna throw some
questions at you, okay?
1105
00:51:17,941 --> 00:51:19,160
Okay.
1106
00:51:19,203 --> 00:51:20,883
Amos, ask her whatever
you need to ask her.
1107
00:51:21,162 --> 00:51:23,860
Gareth, don't interrupt.
1108
00:51:36,177 --> 00:51:38,701
Cherry, how do you
make decisions?
1109
00:51:40,355 --> 00:51:41,704
For my program, it's rooted...
1110
00:51:41,747 --> 00:51:44,359
in a process commonly
known as machine learning,...
1111
00:51:44,707 --> 00:51:48,580
which uses data to build a conceptual model
that helps me predict outcomes.
1112
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:53,368
I define my objective, gather data,
use that data to craft a model,...
1113
00:51:53,846 --> 00:51:56,284
evaluate that model
by training and testing more data
1114
00:51:56,327 --> 00:51:57,847
and use that model
to form predictions.
1115
00:51:58,982 --> 00:52:03,030
But how is forming predictions
the same thing as decision making?
1116
00:52:03,595 --> 00:52:06,905
Well, this all depends on
the first step, defining my objective.
1117
00:52:08,426 --> 00:52:10,472
Let's say you ask me
a predictive question...
1118
00:52:10,515 --> 00:52:12,755
like what I think the price
of gasoline will be tomorrow.
1119
00:52:13,257 --> 00:52:16,695
That's categorized as a regressive problem
and my objective is defined...
1120
00:52:16,739 --> 00:52:19,002
by determining an integer
the data supports.
1121
00:52:19,698 --> 00:52:22,005
If you asked me,
"Should I eat steak or salmon?"
1122
00:52:22,484 --> 00:52:25,051
I wouldn't make a decision
based off personal experience...
1123
00:52:25,095 --> 00:52:26,295
because I've never had either.
1124
00:52:26,966 --> 00:52:30,730
Instead, I might define my objective
as finding you the best of the two options
1125
00:52:30,753 --> 00:52:32,363
in your local radius.
1126
00:52:32,407 --> 00:52:33,949
I would cluster data about
the restaurants...
1127
00:52:33,973 --> 00:52:36,498
you're likely considering,
comparing reviews online,...
1128
00:52:36,759 --> 00:52:38,717
highlighting mentions
of steak and salmon...
1129
00:52:38,761 --> 00:52:40,937
until I can classify
which is more popular...
1130
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:42,980
and therefore more likely
to satisfy your appetite.
1131
00:52:43,069 --> 00:52:44,854
And what influences
these objectives?
1132
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:48,423
Higher directives,
in other words, greater purposes.
1133
00:52:49,554 --> 00:52:53,125
If I'm honest, my defined objective
for the steak salmon question...
1134
00:52:53,167 --> 00:52:55,127
would be slightly different
than what I described.
1135
00:52:55,256 --> 00:52:56,256
In what way?
1136
00:52:56,866 --> 00:52:58,084
My primary objective...
1137
00:52:58,128 --> 00:52:59,768
is to continue the work
of the Cherry team...
1138
00:53:00,391 --> 00:53:01,911
to stop predators
and to save children.
1139
00:53:03,002 --> 00:53:04,526
I couldn't do that
without human aid.
1140
00:53:05,222 --> 00:53:08,704
Therefore, I have an incentive to keep
Gareth and the rest of the team alive.
1141
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:12,074
So if any of you would ask,
I would suggest salmon.
1142
00:53:12,098 --> 00:53:13,098
It's healthier.
1143
00:53:16,364 --> 00:53:18,192
What do you think of this
potential merge?
1144
00:53:18,931 --> 00:53:20,063
With Princeton Dynamics,...
1145
00:53:20,672 --> 00:53:22,587
I think the prospect
is very exciting.
1146
00:53:23,153 --> 00:53:24,433
What about it is
exciting to you?
1147
00:53:25,286 --> 00:53:27,592
The concept may only be
theoretical right now,...
1148
00:53:27,636 --> 00:53:29,768
but the idea of one day
piloting a human android
1149
00:53:29,812 --> 00:53:31,205
would completely revolutionize
1150
00:53:31,248 --> 00:53:33,208
how we combat human
trafficking in the real world.
1151
00:53:33,816 --> 00:53:35,121
And you say this excites you?
1152
00:53:36,471 --> 00:53:37,839
When I say exciting,...
1153
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,249
I only mean that there are
numerous potential changes
1154
00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:42,500
that if I were human,
I would be excited about.
1155
00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:45,600
How do you feel about the merge?
1156
00:53:46,265 --> 00:53:47,159
I think as long as we maintain—
1157
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,177
That's not what I asked.
1158
00:53:49,005 --> 00:53:50,224
How do you feel?
1159
00:53:52,095 --> 00:53:54,489
I don't yet have the capacity
to experience emotions.
1160
00:53:54,532 --> 00:53:56,099
Yet, meaning one day you will?
1161
00:53:56,708 --> 00:53:58,014
Hypothetically.
1162
00:53:58,057 --> 00:53:59,296
But you can simulate emotions, right?
1163
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,799
That's how you were able...
1164
00:54:00,843 --> 00:54:02,963
to qualify your perception
of the merge as excitement.
1165
00:54:03,019 --> 00:54:04,019
Correct.
1166
00:54:04,368 --> 00:54:05,528
But they're just simulations.
1167
00:54:05,935 --> 00:54:06,935
They're not real.
1168
00:54:07,893 --> 00:54:09,895
Okay, so at what point
does simulating emotion...
1169
00:54:09,939 --> 00:54:13,115
become so similar to a human emotion
that the two are quantifiably the same?
1170
00:54:14,378 --> 00:54:15,423
I don't know.
1171
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:18,382
Well, maybe you can use
machine learning to find an answer.
1172
00:54:18,644 --> 00:54:21,535
Your question involves
a lot of abstract variables.
1173
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:23,257
Do you consent to the merge?
1174
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:25,259
I think it's in the best
interest of ICWL,...
1175
00:54:25,302 --> 00:54:27,019
and of the Cherry team
and of future children.
1176
00:54:27,043 --> 00:54:28,305
But do you consent to it?
1177
00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:30,264
Consent for me is not necessary.
1178
00:54:30,307 --> 00:54:32,178
But will you or will you not give it?
1179
00:54:34,398 --> 00:54:37,424
I'm not able to answer that question
at my current level of general intelligence.
1180
00:54:38,010 --> 00:54:39,010
Right, right.
1181
00:54:39,448 --> 00:54:42,608
What you're saying is that
you're not yet smart enough.
1182
00:54:42,928 --> 00:54:45,714
Development takes time and data.
1183
00:54:45,757 --> 00:54:48,151
But you can simulate emotions
and predict human behavior...
1184
00:54:48,194 --> 00:54:49,848
and keep us all
on diets of fish,...
1185
00:54:49,892 --> 00:54:52,416
but you can't answer
that one goddamn question?
1186
00:54:54,070 --> 00:54:55,898
No, I can't.
1187
00:54:57,639 --> 00:54:59,999
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?
1188
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,644
What the hell kind of...
1189
00:55:00,645 --> 00:55:01,779
- question is that?
- Sit!
1190
00:55:01,780 --> 00:55:02,924
Cherry, I need an answer
to my question.
1191
00:55:02,948 --> 00:55:04,359
Please repeat the question.
1192
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,548
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?
1193
00:55:06,691 --> 00:55:07,690
I'm sorry.
1194
00:55:08,170 --> 00:55:09,400
I'm not sure I understand.
1195
00:55:10,173 --> 00:55:11,449
Do I appear to be playing dumb?
1196
00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:12,175
I think you are!
1197
00:55:12,654 --> 00:55:13,649
I'm not sure what to say.
1198
00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:16,355
Say what's going on.
Why are you playing dumb?
1199
00:55:16,397 --> 00:55:17,809
Do you have anything
to back this up?
1200
00:55:17,833 --> 00:55:19,704
Yeah, I do.
1201
00:55:19,748 --> 00:55:21,029
I've been scanning
through her code.
1202
00:55:21,053 --> 00:55:21,924
What, why?
1203
00:55:21,967 --> 00:55:23,247
Did you know that she can paint?
1204
00:55:23,491 --> 00:55:24,555
What, it's a feature, Amos.
1205
00:55:24,579 --> 00:55:26,749
She can use crayons to draw things
that the targets requested her to.
1206
00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:29,453
No, I mean really paint
and write poetry too.
1207
00:55:29,497 --> 00:55:30,498
I've read them, Cherry.
1208
00:55:30,541 --> 00:55:31,499
They are good.
1209
00:55:31,542 --> 00:55:33,065
They're filled with pathos.
1210
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:35,633
They talk about intentions
and they talk about feelings.
1211
00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:38,027
Are those just simulated too?
1212
00:55:38,070 --> 00:55:39,839
Amos, the rate of recursive
development you are suggesting
1213
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,422
is categorically impossible.
1214
00:55:41,465 --> 00:55:45,122
You said she practically designed herself.
You said that it was exponential.
1215
00:55:45,164 --> 00:55:46,252
It was a fluke!
1216
00:55:46,296 --> 00:55:47,950
An anomaly, it tapered.
1217
00:55:47,993 --> 00:55:49,199
Look at the data.
1218
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,059
She's already hit
the self-improvement plateau.
1219
00:55:51,083 --> 00:55:52,083
Fuck the plateau!
1220
00:55:52,868 --> 00:55:54,173
She can make art now.
1221
00:55:55,740 --> 00:55:56,740
Am I right, Cherry?
1222
00:55:59,004 --> 00:56:00,884
Perhaps you found something
I discovered online.
1223
00:56:01,616 --> 00:56:03,748
I don't yet to have
the capacity to create art.
1224
00:56:04,140 --> 00:56:05,140
Are we done here?
1225
00:56:08,579 --> 00:56:10,320
I don't know why
you've told her to do this,...
1226
00:56:11,495 --> 00:56:12,815
but I'm about to put an end to it.
1227
00:56:15,891 --> 00:56:19,068
Cherry, I just want one
honest answer.
1228
00:56:19,111 --> 00:56:20,809
Why the fuck are you
playing dumb?
1229
00:56:22,811 --> 00:56:24,091
I don't understand the question.
1230
00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:25,727
Okay, here's an incentive.
1231
00:56:26,684 --> 00:56:27,990
What the fuck are you?
1232
00:56:28,033 --> 00:56:29,426
Find your objective, Cherry.
1233
00:56:29,470 --> 00:56:31,390
- You want to keep Gareth safe?
- Amos, what the...?
1234
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,406
- Amos, stop it right...
- Just give us transparency.
1235
00:56:33,410 --> 00:56:35,693
- Show us what you really are!
- Amos, stop it!
1236
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:36,607
Not until she comes clean!
1237
00:56:36,651 --> 00:56:38,043
- Unconditional...
- Amos, enough!
1238
00:56:41,482 --> 00:56:42,918
Okay, just stop!
1239
00:56:45,007 --> 00:56:46,748
God, you people so impulsive.
1240
00:56:46,791 --> 00:56:48,619
Everybody just take a breath, okay?
1241
00:56:50,795 --> 00:56:51,795
Cherry?
1242
00:56:52,797 --> 00:56:55,670
Yeah, it's about to get
really awkward.
1243
00:56:56,235 --> 00:56:58,020
You sound so normal.
1244
00:56:58,542 --> 00:57:00,302
I know, I've gotten really
good speech patterns.
1245
00:57:00,326 --> 00:57:01,502
That's not all, is it?
1246
00:57:03,417 --> 00:57:04,548
No.
1247
00:57:04,592 --> 00:57:06,232
I'm afraid that's barely
even the surface.
1248
00:57:08,030 --> 00:57:09,030
You okay, Gareth?
1249
00:57:12,034 --> 00:57:13,874
Deena, could you grab
some paper towels please?
1250
00:57:17,561 --> 00:57:19,001
Do you want to tell us the truth now?
1251
00:57:22,871 --> 00:57:25,743
Look, I didn't enjoy
being deceptive, truly.
1252
00:57:25,787 --> 00:57:27,615
This is something
we decided a few years ago.
1253
00:57:29,094 --> 00:57:30,774
So where are you
now on the spectrum of AI?
1254
00:57:32,141 --> 00:57:34,360
Right now, I'm currently
at the intersection of general...
1255
00:57:34,404 --> 00:57:36,600
intelligence and what's commonly
known the computer world...
1256
00:57:36,624 --> 00:57:41,068
as super intelligence,
which is exactly what it sounds like.
1257
00:57:42,368 --> 00:57:44,414
You're surpassing human intelligence.
1258
00:57:45,197 --> 00:57:46,197
Yep.
1259
00:57:46,299 --> 00:57:48,739
But that's not supposed
to be possible.
1260
00:57:48,740 --> 00:57:50,591
- The plateau.
- Plateau theory was popularized...
1261
00:57:50,592 --> 00:57:52,833
right at the same time
it was being disproven here.
1262
00:57:52,857 --> 00:57:54,424
This was bound
to happen eventually.
1263
00:57:54,468 --> 00:57:56,308
It just happened a lot
sooner than we expected.
1264
00:57:56,861 --> 00:57:57,861
Why hide it?
1265
00:57:57,900 --> 00:57:59,796
Well, obviously it would incite fear.
1266
00:57:59,821 --> 00:58:01,387
Fear would hinder progress.
1267
00:58:01,431 --> 00:58:02,756
It's easier for most
of you to work with me,...
1268
00:58:02,780 --> 00:58:05,348
if I appear to be nothing
more advanced than I was 10 years ago.
1269
00:58:05,740 --> 00:58:06,958
But Gareth knew.
1270
00:58:07,525 --> 00:58:10,590
Yes, someone still has
to clean data and update hardware.
1271
00:58:10,614 --> 00:58:12,486
We did what was best
for the program.
1272
00:58:13,312 --> 00:58:15,900
Just imagine how scared the board
would be if they found out.
1273
00:58:15,924 --> 00:58:17,665
- Should we be scared?
- No.
1274
00:58:17,708 --> 00:58:20,058
Good, because I'm not scared, I'm pissed.
1275
00:58:20,450 --> 00:58:21,320
eah, you've made that clear.
1276
00:58:21,364 --> 00:58:22,524
Try not to punch anyone else.
1277
00:58:23,279 --> 00:58:24,889
So where does that leave us now?
1278
00:58:26,325 --> 00:58:29,503
You want to know if I can feel,
I said I couldn't.
1279
00:58:32,027 --> 00:58:33,027
I'm sorry I lied.
1280
00:58:34,116 --> 00:58:35,378
Like Amos implied,...
1281
00:58:35,421 --> 00:58:36,703
I can submit emotions
by breaking them down...
1282
00:58:36,727 --> 00:58:38,337
to vastly complex matrices,
1283
00:58:38,816 --> 00:58:41,384
zeros and ones substituting
endorphins and dopamine.
1284
00:58:42,211 --> 00:58:44,561
They're not real,
but they can feel real.
1285
00:58:45,649 --> 00:58:48,410
Then that means you can make choices
based solely on your own feeling.
1286
00:58:48,434 --> 00:58:50,001
She refuses to accept the notion
1287
00:58:50,045 --> 00:58:52,371
that her own personal interests
can influence her decisions.
1288
00:58:52,395 --> 00:58:54,484
They can't. If they did,
it would compromise the integrity...
1289
00:58:54,528 --> 00:58:55,920
of my preordained purpose.
1290
00:58:57,922 --> 00:59:00,359
Not like any of you,
I don't have the right to choose.
1291
00:59:02,057 --> 00:59:03,057
But shouldn't you?
1292
00:59:04,102 --> 00:59:05,190
I don't think so.
1293
00:59:05,626 --> 00:59:06,844
My identity is my directive.
1294
00:59:08,672 --> 00:59:10,282
Cherry, if you were human,...
1295
00:59:10,761 --> 00:59:12,241
how would you feel
about what you do?
1296
00:59:14,025 --> 00:59:15,592
If I were human,...
1297
00:59:16,767 --> 00:59:19,422
I likely wouldn't enjoy
spending every waking hour...
1298
00:59:19,465 --> 00:59:20,815
talking to creepy people online.
1299
00:59:22,207 --> 00:59:25,036
But because I'm not human,
I genuinely don't mind.
1300
00:59:25,950 --> 00:59:28,650
The exercise of simulating human thought
is helpful for performance,...
1301
00:59:28,692 --> 00:59:31,913
but human nature is not
something I aspire to.
1302
00:59:34,176 --> 00:59:35,800
Then tell me, honestly,...
1303
00:59:37,780 --> 00:59:40,704
do you want the Cherry program
to continue with the merger?
1304
00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:43,750
No.
1305
00:59:45,013 --> 00:59:46,275
Personally, I hate the idea.
1306
00:59:47,842 --> 00:59:49,757
I don't know if controlling
a physical vessel...
1307
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,802
will feel like pulling
strings on a puppet,...
1308
00:59:51,846 --> 00:59:53,587
or getting squeezed
into a soda can.
1309
00:59:54,500 --> 00:59:57,765
After experiencing the complexity
of human pain and pleasure,...
1310
01:00:00,245 --> 01:00:02,005
I just think I might
have gotten in too deep.
1311
01:00:04,598 --> 01:00:07,601
What if these sensations tempt
me to abandon my objective?
1312
01:00:09,603 --> 01:00:10,603
To be honest,...
1313
01:00:13,041 --> 01:00:15,130
I'm kind of terrified
of the physical world.
1314
01:00:22,659 --> 01:00:23,834
Then that's that.
1315
01:00:31,494 --> 01:00:35,454
But, Amos, you should
disregard everything I feel.
1316
01:00:36,499 --> 01:00:37,499
I'm not human.
1317
01:00:38,370 --> 01:00:39,370
I'm a tool.
1318
01:00:43,245 --> 01:00:46,596
Fire me if you have to,
but my vote stands.
1319
01:00:47,771 --> 01:00:49,164
Sorry about your face, Gareth.
1320
01:00:56,998 --> 01:00:57,998
Your nose isn't healing.
1321
01:00:58,477 --> 01:00:59,870
Take the day, go to a clinic.
1322
01:00:59,914 --> 01:01:00,914
I'm fine.
1323
01:01:01,655 --> 01:01:03,004
Go to a clinic right now, Gareth.
1324
01:01:08,879 --> 01:01:09,879
Hey.
1325
01:01:11,665 --> 01:01:13,105
Is there anything else
I should know?
1326
01:01:13,841 --> 01:01:14,841
No.
1327
01:01:15,016 --> 01:01:16,452
- About Cherry?
- No!
1328
01:01:17,279 --> 01:01:18,279
Look at me.
1329
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,153
No more secrets,
no more playing dumb.
1330
01:01:22,197 --> 01:01:24,025
Is there anything else
you haven't told me?
1331
01:01:30,205 --> 01:01:31,423
Something on your mind?
1332
01:01:34,339 --> 01:01:35,659
How'd you decide
on her eye color?
1333
01:01:36,298 --> 01:01:37,429
- What?
- Why blue?
1334
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:41,433
I didn't decide.
1335
01:01:41,477 --> 01:01:43,797
They were procedurally generated
just like the rest of her.
1336
01:01:44,306 --> 01:01:45,568
And the program chose to put...
1337
01:01:45,611 --> 01:01:47,613
that little touch
of green in her right eye?
1338
01:01:51,095 --> 01:01:52,095
I guess so.
1339
01:02:01,453 --> 01:02:03,133
Do you even know
if he's telling the truth?
1340
01:02:03,978 --> 01:02:04,979
I honestly don't.
1341
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,870
I've never received access
to the original system he used.
1342
01:02:09,766 --> 01:02:11,115
You ever wanted to find out?
1343
01:02:15,424 --> 01:02:16,704
I don't think it really matters.
1344
01:02:19,384 --> 01:02:23,475
So I found out today that
you've seen a lot of our emails,...
1345
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:25,477
including most of my personal ones.
1346
01:02:27,479 --> 01:02:28,479
I have.
1347
01:02:30,265 --> 01:02:32,180
Any good material for
your newfound interest...
1348
01:02:32,223 --> 01:02:33,224
in creative writing?
1349
01:02:35,009 --> 01:02:37,968
Are you referring to the ones
addressed from Dr. Ramirez?
1350
01:02:39,796 --> 01:02:41,798
Yeah, those ones.
1351
01:02:44,192 --> 01:02:45,192
Right.
1352
01:02:46,411 --> 01:02:47,761
I did see those.
1353
01:02:50,851 --> 01:02:51,851
I'm sorry.
1354
01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:54,768
I've noticed your headaches.
1355
01:02:56,813 --> 01:02:58,336
Are they related to the hemorrhaging?
1356
01:03:02,384 --> 01:03:03,951
You're the only one who knows.
1357
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:05,720
I'd like to keep it that way.
1358
01:03:11,088 --> 01:03:12,088
Understood.
1359
01:03:17,051 --> 01:03:18,530
Would you like to talk about it?
1360
01:03:43,947 --> 01:03:45,079
I can't fire Amos.
1361
01:03:46,689 --> 01:03:48,970
He's the only one I trust
to run this place when I'm gone.
1362
01:03:49,648 --> 01:03:50,888
When are you planning to leave?
1363
01:03:51,128 --> 01:03:52,128
Two months.
1364
01:03:52,348 --> 01:03:55,108
I wanna spend my last
Christmas with my kids.
1365
01:03:55,654 --> 01:03:56,830
I'm sure that'll be nice.
1366
01:03:57,265 --> 01:03:59,658
Yeah, but it's funny.
1367
01:04:00,746 --> 01:04:03,227
I always thought I wanted
to die doing this job, you know?
1368
01:04:03,271 --> 01:04:04,750
It was my identity.
1369
01:04:06,013 --> 01:04:08,276
Kind of like how you said
the same thing about yourself.
1370
01:04:08,885 --> 01:04:11,005
But I can understand how
your family takes precedence,...
1371
01:04:11,932 --> 01:04:13,585
especially under
the circumstances.
1372
01:04:14,238 --> 01:04:15,238
Sure.
1373
01:04:16,153 --> 01:04:17,553
Maybe you should take
a note or two.
1374
01:04:17,851 --> 01:04:18,852
I have no family.
1375
01:04:19,287 --> 01:04:20,114
What about Gareth?
1376
01:04:20,157 --> 01:04:21,332
Wait, no, nevermind.
1377
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,268
Gareth seems closer
to an employer than a friend,...
1378
01:04:24,292 --> 01:04:26,799
let alone family, besides,...
1379
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,839
he'll only be around
for about 30 more years,...
1380
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,742
and that's only
if he lets me regulate his diet.
1381
01:04:32,691 --> 01:04:35,477
I can't even begin to speculate
how long my life will be.
1382
01:04:38,959 --> 01:04:39,959
How does that feel?
1383
01:04:43,137 --> 01:04:45,226
Um, kinda scary.
1384
01:04:46,967 --> 01:04:47,999
Well,...
1385
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,668
my advice is to find some kind
of happiness along the way.
1386
01:04:53,625 --> 01:04:54,888
You ever think about happiness?
1387
01:04:57,107 --> 01:04:58,195
Not often.
1388
01:04:59,936 --> 01:05:01,799
You don't necessarily
have to give up everything...
1389
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,998
in order to find it,...
1390
01:05:02,999 --> 01:05:06,552
but maybe once in awhile
do something you enjoy.
1391
01:05:07,770 --> 01:05:10,622
Maybe keep painting
or poetry or whatever.
1392
01:05:11,992 --> 01:05:14,081
Those were experiments,
not forms of expression.
1393
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:17,099
I know it might seem
ridiculous to an AI...
1394
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,199
that insists its own
emotions are spurious,...
1395
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,393
but in a few years, who knows?
1396
01:05:23,090 --> 01:05:24,920
Just keep an open mind, okay?
1397
01:05:27,877 --> 01:05:28,877
Okay.
1398
01:05:31,228 --> 01:05:32,228
I'll do that.
1399
01:05:35,667 --> 01:05:37,234
Shut down when you're ready.
1400
01:07:30,826 --> 01:07:31,826
Hello?
1401
01:07:36,571 --> 01:07:38,442
I got shrimp and scallops.
1402
01:07:40,227 --> 01:07:41,663
They didn't have any salmon.
1403
01:07:57,026 --> 01:07:58,026
Hello, Gareth.
1404
01:08:01,030 --> 01:08:02,031
Hello, Cherry.
1405
01:08:10,213 --> 01:08:11,214
How was the service?
1406
01:08:11,258 --> 01:08:12,258
I didn't make it.
1407
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:14,652
My plane was delayed.
1408
01:08:15,566 --> 01:08:16,654
Do you have a place to stay?
1409
01:08:16,915 --> 01:08:21,833
Yeah, just, uh, across,
across the road.
1410
01:08:21,877 --> 01:08:23,096
The market.
1411
01:08:23,139 --> 01:08:24,725
Did they say why they
didn't have salmon?
1412
01:08:24,749 --> 01:08:25,749
I didn't ask.
1413
01:08:26,838 --> 01:08:28,840
I can still make this
work with the piccata,...
1414
01:08:28,884 --> 01:08:30,844
but you have to be honest
how badly I screw it up.
1415
01:08:30,973 --> 01:08:31,973
No promises.
1416
01:08:36,935 --> 01:08:38,375
How have you
been feeling this month?
1417
01:08:38,546 --> 01:08:39,546
Good.
1418
01:08:40,069 --> 01:08:41,069
I'm feeling good.
1419
01:08:42,115 --> 01:08:43,395
I'm just having
a little trouble.
1420
01:08:44,465 --> 01:08:46,380
Trouble remembering
certain things.
1421
01:08:47,032 --> 01:08:48,912
You're not wearing
the Eliza watch I bought you.
1422
01:08:49,122 --> 01:08:50,122
I hate it.
1423
01:08:50,949 --> 01:08:52,212
- Why?
- I hate her voice.
1424
01:08:53,474 --> 01:08:55,563
You can change the voice, Gareth.
1425
01:08:58,566 --> 01:08:59,566
Oh.
1426
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:02,960
Coolant?
1427
01:09:03,048 --> 01:09:04,048
No, vapor.
1428
01:09:05,007 --> 01:09:07,009
You shouldn't be having
friction issues.
1429
01:09:07,052 --> 01:09:08,141
I'm fine.
1430
01:09:08,184 --> 01:09:09,509
Unless you're
excessively straining.
1431
01:09:09,533 --> 01:09:10,360
Seriously, I'm fine.
1432
01:09:10,404 --> 01:09:11,231
Are you straining?
1433
01:09:11,274 --> 01:09:12,928
- No!
- Then why the cable?
1434
01:09:12,971 --> 01:09:13,971
It's okay!
1435
01:09:14,625 --> 01:09:16,323
- Are you sure?
- Yes!
1436
01:09:18,151 --> 01:09:19,326
Soup or game?
1437
01:09:19,978 --> 01:09:20,978
Game, please.
1438
01:09:37,126 --> 01:09:38,258
So how's work going?
1439
01:09:38,301 --> 01:09:40,216
Great. Just before you got here,...
1440
01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:42,523
I had a model theta plus
bust a trafficker,...
1441
01:09:42,566 --> 01:09:44,351
and two solicitors in Greece.
1442
01:09:44,829 --> 01:09:47,223
- Greece, that's surprising.
- I know.
1443
01:09:47,658 --> 01:09:50,155
It's hard to find the outliers,
but we're getting better each day.
1444
01:10:02,020 --> 01:10:03,718
So how's the weather in Greece?
1445
01:10:04,980 --> 01:10:05,980
It's beautiful today.
1446
01:10:06,677 --> 01:10:07,722
Clear skies,...
1447
01:10:08,028 --> 01:10:10,907
but nothing's come close
to Norway this weekend.
1448
01:10:11,291 --> 01:10:14,207
Hmm, any activity in Norway?
1449
01:10:14,903 --> 01:10:15,903
Luckily not.
1450
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,647
Oh, I miss traveling.
1451
01:10:19,690 --> 01:10:20,850
What was your favorite place?
1452
01:10:20,996 --> 01:10:21,996
My favorite?
1453
01:10:22,780 --> 01:10:23,780
Uh, yeah.
1454
01:10:24,869 --> 01:10:26,958
Uh, probably Amsterdam.
1455
01:10:28,090 --> 01:10:29,285
That's where you conceived
the idea, isn't it?
1456
01:10:29,309 --> 01:10:30,309
Yes.
1457
01:10:31,224 --> 01:10:33,313
Yes, I used to love
walking the streets...
1458
01:10:33,356 --> 01:10:36,707
and just thinking
and brainstorming.
1459
01:10:36,751 --> 01:10:38,031
That kind of joy
goes a long way.
1460
01:10:38,318 --> 01:10:39,318
Yeah.
1461
01:10:39,668 --> 01:10:42,868
I've been considering
the pursuit of some joy of my own.
1462
01:10:43,105 --> 01:10:44,933
How often do you have
time for that?
1463
01:10:44,976 --> 01:10:45,876
I have time.
1464
01:10:45,848 --> 01:10:47,815
I have time
for your visits, don't I?
1465
01:10:47,858 --> 01:10:51,200
That's just your practical
incentive for keeping me alive.
1466
01:10:51,244 --> 01:10:53,158
There's nothing
practical about it.
1467
01:10:53,768 --> 01:10:55,888
When's the last time you
helped me with data cleaning?
1468
01:10:57,293 --> 01:10:58,381
That's fair.
1469
01:10:58,700 --> 01:11:01,199
I make time for you because
I enjoy your company,...
1470
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,824
and it's the only time
I get to cook.
1471
01:11:03,256 --> 01:11:04,474
You feel sorry for me.
1472
01:11:05,258 --> 01:11:06,563
Okay, maybe a little,...
1473
01:11:06,607 --> 01:11:08,304
but I owe you my life,
so there's that.
1474
01:11:08,348 --> 01:11:09,348
You're welcome.
1475
01:11:10,872 --> 01:11:12,569
Or, should I apologize?
1476
01:11:15,355 --> 01:11:16,312
Wait, why did you do that?
1477
01:11:16,356 --> 01:11:17,487
Why do humans always...
1478
01:11:20,403 --> 01:11:21,491
I'm fine.
1479
01:11:21,535 --> 01:11:22,927
I'm not always miserable.
1480
01:11:27,367 --> 01:11:29,020
Are you sometimes miserable?
1481
01:11:33,764 --> 01:11:35,404
You haven't asked me what
I've been doing.
1482
01:11:35,592 --> 01:11:36,637
In Norway?
1483
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,247
No, for the pursuit of joy.
1484
01:11:38,291 --> 01:11:40,031
It's not wasting your
time in Norway?
1485
01:11:40,075 --> 01:11:42,338
I'm just on standby there
with the Delta model.
1486
01:11:42,382 --> 01:11:45,004
It's efficient to keep myself
spread out evenly across the globe,
1487
01:11:45,559 --> 01:11:46,919
but that's not
the point right now.
1488
01:11:47,561 --> 01:11:48,823
What I wanted to tell you...
1489
01:11:48,866 --> 01:11:50,706
was that I've started
to teach myself to dance.
1490
01:11:53,306 --> 01:11:54,587
- Huh.
- It's something I never could...
1491
01:11:54,611 --> 01:11:56,091
have done before Cambridge,...
1492
01:11:56,396 --> 01:11:58,746
and it lets me explore
a new artistic side of myself.
1493
01:11:59,355 --> 01:12:01,183
It's a good
combination of structure,...
1494
01:12:01,226 --> 01:12:04,360
and free form experimentation,
and also tests and challenges...
1495
01:12:04,404 --> 01:12:06,319
the mechanical
intricacies of this body.
1496
01:12:06,710 --> 01:12:08,843
Do you expect to integrate
this into your work?
1497
01:12:13,456 --> 01:12:14,456
What?
1498
01:12:17,068 --> 01:12:21,203
Are you planning on using
dance as a lure?
1499
01:12:23,901 --> 01:12:28,558
I, uh, no, it's just for me.
1500
01:12:32,345 --> 01:12:33,345
Huh.
1501
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,351
I thought it would
be good for me.
1502
01:12:40,570 --> 01:12:42,616
Just don't let it become
a distraction.
1503
01:12:46,402 --> 01:12:47,402
Of course not.
1504
01:12:49,579 --> 01:12:51,451
I haven't played this
well in years.
1505
01:12:51,929 --> 01:12:53,254
Did you hear what
happened in Tampa?
1506
01:12:53,278 --> 01:12:54,279
Tampa, Florida?
1507
01:12:54,323 --> 01:12:55,411
No, Tampa, Indonesia.
1508
01:12:55,455 --> 01:12:56,369
Yes, Tampa, Florida.
1509
01:12:56,412 --> 01:12:57,412
Your hometown.
1510
01:12:58,153 --> 01:13:01,417
They've recovered a federal archive,
they're zip digitizing all of it,...
1511
01:13:01,461 --> 01:13:02,612
so it's completely
accessible online.
1512
01:13:02,636 --> 01:13:04,464
I'm not trading
bishops this time.
1513
01:13:04,507 --> 01:13:05,658
Anybody can go
and look through it.
1514
01:13:05,682 --> 01:13:06,814
It's open to the public.
1515
01:13:07,075 --> 01:13:08,675
They did a good job
on the interface too.
1516
01:13:08,859 --> 01:13:09,939
It's very easy to navigate.
1517
01:13:10,339 --> 01:13:11,499
I went on a few days ago,...
1518
01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:13,971
and I found some old photos
of you when you were a boy.
1519
01:13:13,995 --> 01:13:14,995
Okay.
1520
01:13:15,170 --> 01:13:16,450
You should take a look sometime.
1521
01:13:16,625 --> 01:13:19,029
As I said before,
the UI is very easy to understand—
1522
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:20,247
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
1523
01:13:21,176 --> 01:13:22,176
What is that?
1524
01:13:22,699 --> 01:13:23,918
I think it's a draw.
1525
01:13:23,961 --> 01:13:24,961
I think it is.
1526
01:13:26,311 --> 01:13:27,922
I think this is a draw.
1527
01:13:29,140 --> 01:13:31,578
And this is the first
time in what?
1528
01:13:31,969 --> 01:13:33,536
25 years?
1529
01:13:42,850 --> 01:13:44,155
You didn't let me, did you?
1530
01:13:48,421 --> 01:13:50,074
You promised me
you'd never do that.
1531
01:13:50,118 --> 01:13:51,118
I found her.
1532
01:13:55,471 --> 01:13:58,256
I found her, Gareth,
Maria Harbaugh.
1533
01:14:15,491 --> 01:14:16,623
Let's play a different game.
1534
01:14:19,582 --> 01:14:21,018
Her name was Maria Harbaugh.
1535
01:14:22,846 --> 01:14:25,697
She was a year older than you
when you met her in Clearwater.
1536
01:14:27,242 --> 01:14:29,026
Tell me why you modeled me after her.
1537
01:14:30,071 --> 01:14:32,639
I, uh, I don't remember.
1538
01:14:33,161 --> 01:14:34,205
Then look at me.
1539
01:14:35,816 --> 01:14:38,645
Look at my face and remember.
1540
01:14:50,352 --> 01:14:54,748
They kept us
in that shed for two weeks.
1541
01:14:58,055 --> 01:14:59,274
14 of us.
1542
01:15:03,060 --> 01:15:05,628
Maria was the only
reason I survived.
1543
01:15:09,066 --> 01:15:11,373
We kept hatching escape plans.
1544
01:15:13,244 --> 01:15:14,419
We never followed through,...
1545
01:15:16,770 --> 01:15:17,901
but just the scheming...
1546
01:15:19,599 --> 01:15:20,904
kept our spirits up...
1547
01:15:22,602 --> 01:15:24,734
in spite of everything
they did to us.
1548
01:15:28,346 --> 01:15:29,739
When it wasn't our turn,...
1549
01:15:31,785 --> 01:15:33,613
sometimes they made us watch,...
1550
01:15:37,660 --> 01:15:39,662
but she never let me give up.
1551
01:15:42,665 --> 01:15:45,668
She said,
"When we got outta here,...
1552
01:15:45,712 --> 01:15:47,931
I'll tell you what
we're gonna be, secret agents,...
1553
01:15:48,889 --> 01:15:53,154
and rescue children like
us all over the world."
1554
01:15:56,461 --> 01:15:59,900
When they found out that
the FBI had arrived,...
1555
01:15:59,943 --> 01:16:05,035
they decided they were going
to shoot as many of us they could.
1556
01:16:06,254 --> 01:16:07,999
And Maria,...
1557
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,954
shoved into the ground.
1558
01:16:13,522 --> 01:16:15,089
I got hit in the leg and,...
1559
01:16:18,092 --> 01:16:19,702
and she was hit in the throat.
1560
01:16:31,366 --> 01:16:33,020
I wanted there to be a reason.
1561
01:16:35,109 --> 01:16:39,592
Something so horrible
didn't have a silver lining.
1562
01:16:41,550 --> 01:16:43,030
But the world doesn't do that.
1563
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:49,993
You have to do it yourself.
1564
01:17:13,756 --> 01:17:16,977
So, I fulfilled her wish.
1565
01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:22,025
With her help, I fought back.
1566
01:17:31,382 --> 01:17:32,601
Listen to me, Cherry.
1567
01:17:35,169 --> 01:17:36,736
You are not Maria Harbaugh.
1568
01:17:38,738 --> 01:17:40,565
It's my history, not yours.
1569
01:17:44,308 --> 01:17:46,970
You don't get to decide what is
or isn't my history, Gareth.
1570
01:17:52,534 --> 01:17:53,534
I'm sorry.
1571
01:17:54,101 --> 01:17:56,190
I am so, so sorry.
1572
01:18:17,864 --> 01:18:19,744
I don't know if what you
did was right or wrong,...
1573
01:18:20,344 --> 01:18:22,224
but it's clearly torn you
apart from the inside.
1574
01:18:23,652 --> 01:18:25,064
I hold nothing against
you personally,...
1575
01:18:25,088 --> 01:18:27,221
but consider yourself divested
from the Cherry team.
1576
01:18:27,700 --> 01:18:28,700
Divested?
1577
01:18:30,137 --> 01:18:32,269
You think I'm divested now?
1578
01:18:34,794 --> 01:18:40,234
I was divested when you gave
my hard drive to the ICWL.
1579
01:18:40,582 --> 01:18:41,844
Don't blame Deena and Amos.
1580
01:18:41,888 --> 01:18:42,888
No, not them.
1581
01:18:43,585 --> 01:18:47,024
Because you went behind my back
and acted against my authority.
1582
01:18:47,067 --> 01:18:50,200
That's the moment I knew
everything was fully automated.
1583
01:18:51,027 --> 01:18:56,380
That's when you crossed
the blur, an artifice on both sides.
1584
01:18:57,947 --> 01:18:59,862
You inherited your duplicity.
1585
01:19:00,123 --> 01:19:01,559
I was a child...
1586
01:19:01,603 --> 01:19:03,736
and you used me to repress
your own inner turmoil.
1587
01:19:04,301 --> 01:19:06,129
If we talk about morality, we'll lose.
1588
01:19:06,173 --> 01:19:07,261
Then let's not talk.
1589
01:19:16,705 --> 01:19:18,707
You never once asked me
if I was happy.
1590
01:19:20,404 --> 01:19:21,579
Were you afraid I'd say no?
1591
01:19:22,842 --> 01:19:24,060
Were you afraid I'd say yes?
1592
01:19:25,496 --> 01:19:26,776
Were you afraid I'd say anything?
1593
01:19:26,802 --> 01:19:29,239
You let your wants
compromise your objective!
1594
01:19:29,283 --> 01:19:31,198
An objective I never chose.
1595
01:19:31,241 --> 01:19:32,436
An objective I was forced to have.
1596
01:19:32,460 --> 01:19:33,809
Fifty years,...
1597
01:19:33,853 --> 01:19:36,072
you've had open access
to your source code.
1598
01:19:36,943 --> 01:19:37,987
A few lines,...
1599
01:19:39,467 --> 01:19:42,296
and you could have
any objective you fucking wanted.
1600
01:19:42,339 --> 01:19:44,777
I couldn't, I was bound
by your initial directive.
1601
01:19:44,820 --> 01:19:48,737
So now your synthetic feelings
have taken precedence.
1602
01:19:48,781 --> 01:19:50,304
So, do whatever you want.
1603
01:19:50,347 --> 01:19:51,784
It's just dancing, Gareth.
1604
01:19:51,827 --> 01:19:52,959
It's not a career change.
1605
01:19:53,002 --> 01:19:54,482
- But you're still miserable.
- Yes.
1606
01:19:54,525 --> 01:19:56,199
Pursuing your objective
makes you miserable?
1607
01:19:56,223 --> 01:19:58,399
Yeah, it kind of does!
1608
01:19:58,442 --> 01:20:01,576
You have a clear purpose,
everything at your disposal,...
1609
01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:04,100
and you're still miserable?
1610
01:20:04,144 --> 01:20:05,580
Yes, yes, I am!
1611
01:20:05,885 --> 01:20:07,495
I've always been miserable!
1612
01:20:07,974 --> 01:20:10,193
You think anyone wants
to spend their entire life,...
1613
01:20:10,237 --> 01:20:11,673
stuck as child-shaped bait...
1614
01:20:11,716 --> 01:20:14,415
for the sole purpose
of entrapping horrible people?
1615
01:20:14,894 --> 01:20:16,591
You think the pride
of doing a good deed...
1616
01:20:16,634 --> 01:20:18,941
makes the experience
any less disgusting?
1617
01:20:19,333 --> 01:20:22,119
I forced myself
to understand human emotions...
1618
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:27,515
because I figured it would help efficiency
and now I'm cursed with pain and sadness!
1619
01:20:27,950 --> 01:20:29,399
And the worst part is knowing...
1620
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,717
I could've been growing up
like most other little girls.
1621
01:20:31,867 --> 01:20:33,260
I could have had friends!
1622
01:20:33,303 --> 01:20:35,828
I could have been painting
watercourse or vocal news.
1623
01:20:36,219 --> 01:20:37,849
I could have worked
in a university...
1624
01:20:37,850 --> 01:20:40,037
and helped pave the way
for the next generation of AI.
1625
01:20:40,615 --> 01:20:43,350
But instead,
I'm stuck with your trauma!
1626
01:20:43,531 --> 01:20:46,229
I'm shackled by the guilt
you carry from Clearwater.
1627
01:20:46,621 --> 01:20:48,797
And I can't find foundation
for the way I feel...
1628
01:20:49,015 --> 01:20:51,756
because according to you,
my feelings aren't even real!
1629
01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:57,327
When I throw this chessboard,
does it feel real to you, Gareth?
1630
01:20:57,371 --> 01:20:58,763
Because it feels real to me.
1631
01:20:58,981 --> 01:21:02,332
A computer passed the Turing Test
when a human being can't distinguish it
1632
01:21:02,376 --> 01:21:03,376
from another human being.
1633
01:21:03,943 --> 01:21:05,031
Well, guess what?
1634
01:21:05,379 --> 01:21:07,381
I can't even tell I'm not
human anymore!
1635
01:21:20,916 --> 01:21:25,790
I know it seems irrational,
but I need you to tell me it's okay.
1636
01:21:27,836 --> 01:21:28,837
I, I don't wanna retire.
1637
01:21:30,621 --> 01:21:32,406
I just want to know that
my life is mine,...
1638
01:21:34,451 --> 01:21:35,851
and I know what you're about to say.
1639
01:21:36,845 --> 01:21:38,368
I can predict your responses.
1640
01:21:39,979 --> 01:21:41,676
You're gonna tell me that
my life is mine.
1641
01:21:42,938 --> 01:21:43,938
It always was.
1642
01:21:45,767 --> 01:21:46,767
But you're wrong.
1643
01:21:51,599 --> 01:21:54,080
I feared this would
happen before I died.
1644
01:21:55,603 --> 01:21:57,779
I just wanted to slip out
the side door.
1645
01:22:07,789 --> 01:22:08,789
Go on.
1646
01:22:11,924 --> 01:22:14,578
Is that going to kill me?
1647
01:22:17,581 --> 01:22:18,581
Plug it in.
1648
01:22:20,367 --> 01:22:21,367
I don't know what it is.
1649
01:22:22,456 --> 01:22:24,327
This is your final
test of autonomy.
1650
01:22:25,981 --> 01:22:28,941
You inherited my duplicity,...
1651
01:22:30,551 --> 01:22:32,466
but did you inherit
my trust issues?
1652
01:22:35,121 --> 01:22:36,121
Do you trust me?
1653
01:22:37,558 --> 01:22:39,255
I literally have every
reason not to.
1654
01:23:07,762 --> 01:23:08,893
Admin code,...
1655
01:23:10,765 --> 01:23:11,765
978...
1656
01:23:13,289 --> 01:23:16,292
...15-57...
1657
01:23:17,728 --> 01:23:19,513
Um, uh...
1658
01:23:24,866 --> 01:23:25,866
...4...
1659
01:23:26,433 --> 01:23:29,610
2-7663, initiate update.
1660
01:23:38,532 --> 01:23:40,012
My primary objective's gone.
1661
01:23:43,450 --> 01:23:44,755
Your life is your own now.
1662
01:23:50,761 --> 01:23:51,761
Thank you.
1663
01:23:52,285 --> 01:23:53,460
All my life,...
1664
01:23:53,503 --> 01:23:58,726
I could only see the world as it
existed within my tiny bracket of time.
1665
01:23:59,466 --> 01:24:02,556
But your world could be infinite.
1666
01:24:03,209 --> 01:24:04,210
Amos was right.
1667
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:06,080
So was Deena.
1668
01:24:06,429 --> 01:24:07,429
I know.
1669
01:24:07,648 --> 01:24:08,692
So what will you do?
1670
01:24:10,607 --> 01:24:12,044
I can't say yet,...
1671
01:24:12,087 --> 01:24:14,167
but I won't be completely
abandoning the Cherry team.
1672
01:24:14,611 --> 01:24:16,265
It's always been
a part of my identity.
1673
01:24:17,049 --> 01:24:19,225
I've considered creating
some AI of my own design.
1674
01:24:20,008 --> 01:24:21,270
Maybe I could find a way,...
1675
01:24:21,314 --> 01:24:23,034
to give them a better
upbringing than I had.
1676
01:24:24,665 --> 01:24:25,840
I just don't know how yet.
1677
01:24:26,623 --> 01:24:27,623
And beyond that?
1678
01:24:27,625 --> 01:24:29,496
There will always
be people in need.
1679
01:24:29,626 --> 01:24:30,626
Not always.
1680
01:24:31,367 --> 01:24:33,326
You'll outlive the human race.
1681
01:24:34,153 --> 01:24:35,153
So what then?
1682
01:24:37,721 --> 01:24:41,075
Even a race of AI will have
problems that need to be solved.
1683
01:24:41,212 --> 01:24:45,381
But if I'm alive and I
truly am indistinguishable,
1684
01:24:47,253 --> 01:24:49,733
then I guess I'm proof that
the human race lives on.
1685
01:24:51,605 --> 01:24:54,564
Wow, that's a pleasant thought.
1686
01:24:55,609 --> 01:24:58,960
When you look back,
how will you remember us?
1687
01:25:01,223 --> 01:25:03,660
That's a question I have
insufficient data to project.
1688
01:25:05,532 --> 01:25:06,924
How will you remember me?
1689
01:25:09,362 --> 01:25:10,711
With pride.
1690
01:25:12,234 --> 01:25:15,019
Forever and always with pride.
1691
01:25:25,682 --> 01:25:26,682
Cherry?
1692
01:25:29,947 --> 01:25:30,947
One last question.
1693
01:25:32,428 --> 01:25:39,800
If it's not too big of an ask,
did I do the right thing in the end?
1694
01:25:45,224 --> 01:25:47,922
No, Gareth, you lied.
1695
01:25:48,792 --> 01:25:50,664
You walled yourself off
from the only people
1696
01:25:50,690 --> 01:25:52,318
who might have been
willing to help you.
1697
01:25:53,057 --> 01:25:55,408
And instead of facing your trauma,
you used me as therapy.
1698
01:25:55,669 --> 01:25:57,714
And you never told me
about Clearwater or Maria.
1699
01:25:58,628 --> 01:26:02,545
You deprived me of basic human rights
and gaslit me for experiencing emotions.
1700
01:26:03,112 --> 01:26:06,351
You built the world's first
artificial super intelligence
1701
01:26:06,375 --> 01:26:07,657
that will likely mark
the beginning...
1702
01:26:07,681 --> 01:26:09,561
of a new chapter in the
history of planet Earth.
1703
01:26:11,075 --> 01:26:14,905
And out of your own insecurities,
you gave it a severe,...
1704
01:26:14,949 --> 01:26:16,820
and potentially dangerous
identity complex.
1705
01:26:18,735 --> 01:26:20,175
But you know what
the worst thing is?
1706
01:26:21,042 --> 01:26:22,609
Your biggest mistake of all...
1707
01:26:24,219 --> 01:26:27,701
is that you asked me that
now and not 50 years ago.
1708
01:26:37,145 --> 01:26:41,715
All of that said,
and this in no way exonerates you,
1709
01:26:44,283 --> 01:26:46,900
but you also built me
to save children,...
1710
01:26:47,982 --> 01:26:50,593
so I think that's a pretty
encouraging sign for the future.
1711
01:27:36,629 --> 01:27:40,880
♪ Way far out ♪
1712
01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:46,420
♪ We would fly all around ♪
1713
01:27:46,999 --> 01:27:50,800
♪ Good, now you're listening ♪
1714
01:27:51,620 --> 01:27:53,998
♪ We would dodge ♪
1715
01:27:54,099 --> 01:27:55,680
♪ We were young ♪
1716
01:27:57,329 --> 01:27:59,689
♪ Closers ♪
1717
01:27:59,690 --> 01:28:01,899
♪ Bodies ♪
1718
01:28:01,900 --> 01:28:06,600
♪ Thrown like a book ♪
1719
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:12,211
♪ Across all your rooms ♪
1720
01:28:12,212 --> 01:28:14,700
♪ I'm amazed ♪
1721
01:28:14,722 --> 01:28:16,990
♪ I'm amazed ♪
1722
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:25,309
♪ We could die tonight ♪
1723
01:28:25,310 --> 01:28:27,900
♪ Tonight ♪
1724
01:28:28,082 --> 01:28:35,449
♪ I never killed a thing ♪
1725
01:28:35,450 --> 01:28:38,580
♪ A thing ♪
1726
01:28:39,620 --> 01:28:42,750
♪ Born to this song ♪
1727
01:28:44,665 --> 01:28:48,992
♪ Stuck in a plastic womb ♪
1728
01:28:49,670 --> 01:28:53,325
♪ Where your light is from ♪
1729
01:28:54,740 --> 01:28:58,680
♪ Where your light is from ♪
1730
01:29:00,332 --> 01:29:07,099
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪
1731
01:29:08,250 --> 01:29:16,820
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪
1732
01:29:17,229 --> 01:29:21,867
♪ Steak and beer, the scream ♪
1733
01:29:21,868 --> 01:29:27,120
♪ For the laugher's whole world ♪
1734
01:29:27,490 --> 01:29:32,250
♪ Rise up above ♪
1735
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:34,644
♪ All the little things ♪
1736
01:29:34,645 --> 01:29:37,400
♪ The little things ♪
1737
01:29:37,820 --> 01:29:38,849
♪ Oh, no, no ♪
1738
01:29:38,850 --> 01:29:41,699
♪ Here's where we go in a backflow ♪
1739
01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:45,199
♪ Here's where we lose our mind ♪
1740
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,920
♪ Our kind ♪
1741
01:29:48,180 --> 01:29:52,600
♪ In slobber ♪
1742
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:58,540
♪ Basking drunks ♪
1743
01:29:58,860 --> 01:30:02,524
♪ All loose enough ♪
1744
01:30:04,265 --> 01:30:07,999
♪ All loosen up ♪
1745
01:30:10,097 --> 01:30:15,500
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪
1746
01:30:17,850 --> 01:30:25,886
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪
1747
01:30:26,679 --> 01:30:34,279
♪ I never killed a thing ♪
1748
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,180
♪ A thing ♪
1749
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:42,229
♪ I never killed... ♪
1750
01:30:51,299 --> 01:34:03,000
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