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[car engines hum] [crowd murmurs]
- The very first year that we did this,
these people were walkin' by us
and we were right on the other corner
and they'd stumble out after having had some drinks
and having a good time and they would always be like,
"What are you guys doing, man?
Why are you campin' out?
This is weird, like what's goin' on?"
We're like, "Oh, you know, Record Store Day."
"Records, people still buy those?"
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do, they do."
"Oh, so which one are you looking for?"
- Traditionally, no one says what they want
because they're afraid
the people in front of 'em will get to it.
- [Crowd Member] Strawberry Shortcake.
[laughs] - [Crowd Member] Yeah.
- What are you here for? - Weezer.
- And she only likes the colorful albums,
so basically anything, Portugal. The Man.
- Record Store Day is my busiest day of the year.
It's bigger than my Christmas,
it's bigger than my Black Friday.
It's all of those days rolled together.
Well we're gonna see more people in one day
than we normally see in two months time.
Hey, hey, can you guys hear me?
We have three stations.
So the first station is A through G.
The second station is halfway through the G's through P.
The third is P to Z
and soundtracks are under the name of the movie.
I know you're really all here for "The Crow"
and it's under C. [laughs]
So it's one title per customer,
but as many titles as you want.
- One of my friends brought me here a couple years ago
and I saw a couple albums that I knew that I liked
and then bought a couple of those
and then it just kinda went from there.
I just love that it's kind of a big community
that involves a lot of people.
I really like that.
- These are actually all of my friends
that I only see on Record Store Days.
Like there's faces back here that I recognize
and all these guys, the same thing.
- I don't even know this guy's name,
but I see him every year.
- I'm world famous. - Yeah, yeah.
- [Judy] Okay so this is the fifth one
and this is gonna be the biggest one, right?
And what's the goal?
- [Crew] Quack.
- Quick- - Quality-
- Authentic connections. [laughs]
Let's make friends, let's do it.
[upbeat music]
- [Crew] Welcome, go this direction.
- Br through Gs.
Br 52.
โช Rise up
โช Don't be afraid
โช Stand up for your sister
โช Gotta drop this charade
[crowd murmurs]
- I'm really excited,
'cause they said it's going like hotcakes.
Right here we go. [laughs]
โช Let your heart be your guide
โช Your strength can push us through โช
- It's really weird because
even my parents and stuff like that are just like
"Why are you getting that stuff?
You have all this stuff on your phone."
I said, "I don't know, it's really cool."
- We are a record family, absolutely.
A very musical household.
- I like this one because it has Minnie Mouse on it.
- It reminds me of when I was little,
like wakin' up in the morning,
hearing like the little scratch
and then some soulful music playing.
And so it kind of takes me back to that vibe.
- A pretty good haul today. - You think? [laughs]
- [Customer] It was a good Record Store Day today.
- I got Fleetwood Mac, Soccer Mommy and Courtney Barnett.
- [Customer] We got a Gorillaz album, Courtney Barnett
and a Weezer record she was after.
[bag crinkles]
- This was a used record.
I've seen these guys five or six times.
Roxy Music, Sublime.
There's another Tangerine Dream
and then the one I really wanted.
โช Let's move toward a brighter day โช
โช Together we can find a better way โช
โช Rise up
[crowd applauds]
- [Crowd Member] All right.
- Vinyl,
it's the only way to make sound solid,
like a solid format, like to bring it into our dimension.
Otherwise it's just invisible vibrations in the air.
- Breaking the seal,
like opening the record for the first time
and putting it on your turntable for the first time
and dropping the needle on the record.
- I love opening the Jethro Tull "Stand Up" gatefold
which has the pop up.
That always makes me smile.
- I really like that you can display a vinyl record.
I like looking at the art.
I like being able to touch it and hug it
and hold it if I want to.
- You have this physical,
rather substantial thing you're holding
and that thing promises, you know,
a portal into a moment in time
where your favorite band played this song.
- Artists care about vinyl a lot.
Many artists will say, "That's the most important format
with which I present my art."
- We've always released our music on vinyl
and there is never any thought of doing it any differently
just because that's what we're into
and I think that's what the people
who buy our music are into.
- It elevates the totality of an album
in a way that I think is kind of beautiful
if you're in love with an album.
- Look at this, it's so pretty.
It's got massive artwork that's meant to be looked at,
it's meant to be touched and it [sniffs] smells good.
- When I was in high school I had a huge crush on a guy
and I boxed up some of my records
and I took a turntable over to his house
and I played him vinyl for the first time.
And that's pretty powerful, that worked really well.
- Every record can have its own unique sound
depending on who has owned it, who's touched it,
where it's been.
That's really important to me.
- Sometimes when I want to listen to vinyl just by myself,
I just go right here and just dance.
- You're listening to the whole album,
not just one song that you like.
You can't fast forward.
- Boggles the mind, it's just not the same experience.
I play records for people in here
and it's like the first time they've ever heard the record,
it could be their favorite record.
- I mean that's probably the first thing humans ever did
was to tell stories
and while the way
that we tell them has changed over millennia,
the desire to do it has not.
Personally, I like telling stories through records.
[lighthearted music]
[people murmuring]
- Before I met you, when I was living in Indianapolis,
I got my first record player on my own.
It was pretty cheap,
but I got it because I was just at a point in my life
where I was like, "I want to do what I want do
and I think I would like records,"
and I think I would like certain things
that I think I've been avoiding
because I didn't want to be seen a certain way
or looking like I was trying to hop onto some trend,
especially a white people trend.
Like I'm sorry, like it's not that there's anything wrong
with being white,
it's just that I'm not trying to be a black person
that hops onto white people's trends.
That's how you end up,
you know, being a black white supremacist, which I'm not.
So--
A lot of these are new
Like this Mavis Staples is new.
Kelly just got that, "Only for the Lonely."
My husband loves soul music, but please understand
that when he talks about loving soul music,
he's really talking about the music
of like a middle-aged, black divorcee in the late-'90's.
Like that's what he's listening to.
We were both in the English department and we were writers.
I think I kind of knew
that Kelly was into older music after that
because when we went on our first date
[laughs] and we went four wheeling on our first date,
he took me four wheeling in the mud.
- She didn't know it was a date.
- I didn't know it was a date, that is true.
And we got in his truck
and we were on our way back to campus
from like this place he had taken me out to
and "Brown-Eyed Girl" came on the radio.
You know he's lookin' at the road like nothin's happenin',
but he slips his hand over and puts it on top of my hand
and I was
both like rollin' my eyes and completely charmed.
'Cause I was like, I'm black, of course I have brown eyes,
but also like this is really cute and I love this song
and I really like that he's listening to the song
and like he's playin' the song right now.
- Rolling your eyes and charmed
is probably a common experience.
- It's a common experience,
[Kelly laughs] rolling my eyes
and being also completely charmed, yeah. [sighs]
- Listen, there's something sacred about the whole thing.
12 by 12,
33 rpm,
the visual idea of this thing spinning for 18 minutes.
The idea that a needle, first off, it's a diamond.
I mean it's kids, all the fuckin',
this is like some Zork shit, it's sacred,
you know what I mean?
Like there's a diamond
that's like bumping in between this canyon.
[recording crackles]
[frantic music]
- It's such a horrifying-complex point of consternation
to even think about a stupid little, you know,
stylus moving through this groove.
I mean I'm learning new things every day
and I've been doing this for 18 years.
It's actually happened that's someone has walked in before
and, because I'm getting to the point
where I'm old enough now and they're young enough now,
so that someone walks in and says,
"Oh, albums have music on them."
You're like, "This is a music format?
Wow."
He spent the entire time
staring at the needle touching the groove
and watching it move and looking at the speakers
and going back and forth like it was some kind of alchemy.
- This is like 100 years old, how is this possible?
- It's magical, it's mind-blowing
how the fuck it works.
โช Covering my eyes from far away โช
[waves crashing] [record lock groove repeats]
- So sound is vibration.
Frequency
is sound per second
and then music is a unique collection of frequencies.
And that's just moving air
and that's what's beautiful about vinyl is that
it's taking that movement
and making it a solid, tangible artifact.
The way it works is sound is gonna be sent
to these two magnets.
There's a sharp diamond stylus right here
and that's gonna take the mechanical vibrations of the music
and carve it into this blank disk.
When I was first in a band, like around 17,
and like you know really getting a grasp
of what it means to create things.
Just seeing an actual vinyl record and like holding it,
it just made it, like, if I really am proud of this thing
I just put my heart and soul in,
it only makes sense to put my money where my mouth is.
So I started scouring the internet
and was like how could I do this myself,
because I do everything myself,
and that's why the record lathe
became the most viable option for me.
We're ready to cut.
[muted music]
Now it's etching the sound.
It's magic, obviously.
[wondrous music]
- It's so temperamental and difficult
to get every step right.
To write the songs, to have a functional band,
to have a functional vision, to have a good engineer
and a good studio and then a good mastering engineer
and then a good like lacquer cutter
and then a good plater, you know, plating person,
like Gary Salstrom
is the really famous plating person at QRP.
He fuckin' wrote me an email, I was like almost fainted.
This guy's amazing.
[soothing music]
- Unlike compact discs
you're not opening a door and pushing a button
to start a series of events on a computer.
We have somebody handling the lacquers.
We make a duplicate of that through a series of cleaning
and sensitizing steps, silver it,
put that in the plating tank, make a master.
This is the mother made from that master.
I listen to that,
make sure it's the quality is what we want,
make any repairs that might need to be done
and then we make a stamper that's gonna press the records.
Stan here is unloading a stamper
that's just been made from a mother
and later on he'll separate those two parts
and the stamper'll go out to the press room
and press records.
If everything's done right,
that stamper is an exact mirror image of the mother.
On a job board at school I found a posting
and I started off just sanding stampers.
I realized this is pretty cool.
I can get free records and... [laughs]
This is the vinyl that's gonna press the records.
This is virgin vinyl that we get from a company, TPC,
that's made in Thailand.
The vinyl is heated up in stages, makes a puck.
That puck'll be moved in, onto the center pin of the press
and that's gonna compress into the biscuit.
[press hums]
Record's pressed between the dies, or stampers,
mounted on each side.
It's gonna cut off the excess vinyl
and it comes out the front end.
This is where they're allowed to cool
and everything's hand inspected.
Two people in our QC department,
one will be looking at the records
and the other will be listening,
identifying any potential problems.
This is where we do all the listening.
This is Jamie.
He can look at defects and he's checking centering.
[laughs]
We want the record to be as concentric as possible,
so it's really critical
and it's probably one of the toughest things
that we have here to get right.
Other than that,
he's listening to it to make sure it's free
of any non-fill, tics, pops,
stains, scratches, things like that.
I feel guilty sometimes
'cause I get really stressed out about makin' records
and one of my best friends said,
"There's no such thing as a vinyl emergency."
And I try to remember that,
but it's amazing how stressed out you can get.
[upbeat music]
- You know when we're talkin' about vinyl records,
the process that we use is incredibly similar
to the process that was used to make records in 1880.
- For the first what, maybe,
70-plus years of recorded music,
records, whether they're made vinyl or from shellac,
but the basic form, right, circular.
And that was pretty much the only format that existed.
- [Narrator] Every record is made with the same care
and to the same high-fidelity standards.
- The 12 inch format succeeded
because you can see it from across the street
in a record store window.
- When you talk about the LP era,
what you're talking about is consumer culture
welcoming in large groups of people
who previously were not affluent enough to be targeted.
It was very affordable, it sounded great
and you could have a sort of relatively cheap experience
of urban affluence across all these demographic lines.
- When people were moving into the suburbs,
often the records and the record players
were part of the culture
that they were able to bring into their house.
Records are a piece of art.
- [Announcer] You are going on a ride,
a ride on a diamond tip as it plunges down
through a canyon of sound where music is made.
[majestic orchestral music]
- It's probably really not until 1970s
that things like cassettes and then 8-tracks
and of course by the 1980s, the coming of the CD
now provide competition for vinyl.
[audience cheering] [thumping music]
- [Announcer] Phillips announce the next best thing
to live music: compact disc.
[audience roars] [explosive music]
- [Oliver] They were smaller,
in theory, they sounded better.
- [Announcer] Pure sound played by laser.
- Digital is arguably a more perfect format.
It has consistency.
It potentially has a lower noise floor,
a greater dynamic range.
- I think the record industry in some way was saying,
"You don't want your records anymore,"
to the general public.
"You have to have CDs."
- Record sales begin to fall off a cliff.
I mean the high point, the zenith,
is around probably "Thriller," right, around 1983
and then everything begins to precipitously drop off
from that point.
- The long-playing album will only be 41 years old this year
and already it's headed for early retirement.
Like drive-in movies and gas-guzzling cars,
it's another casualty of progress.
- Records, you know, huge pain in the ass.
[record crashes] [light guitar music]
- [laughs] It's heavy.
- My back is probably not in the best shape it could be
because of vinyl records.
- Every time I've moved I've amassed more records
than the previous time I moved.
So every time it's more and more of a pain in the ass.
[records clatter]
- I don't, you tear my shit.
- It drives me nuts how easy it is to damage,
how easy it is to warp, how easy it is to skip,
how easy it is to break the spine,
how easy it is as a cat owner
to have a shelf full of records
get wrecked in one fell swoop.
[cat meows]
- Ow, no, [sighs] too late.
- I had it in crates
and whenever it would get warm,
I would move them from room to room
because I was like, if they warp, I'm done.
[soothing music]
- Vinyl wasn't perceived to have much value in 1990.
People would bring in all their records
and on top of the pile would be their turntable.
You know it's like, "Here you go."
So we used go to different cities across the East
and we would basically stand in a hotel room
buying records for 10 days straight,
box 'em all up and ship 'em to California.
It was a formula that worked right off the bat.
- But there was this just glut of vinyl
that had been dumped.
Stores just full of records.
- You could be buying these records
that are worth so much now for $5 or less.
- The condition was always, you know, iffy,
but that was an especially good time to find records.
- I always had a fascination with records.
I've also played the drums since I was nine years old
and so I was always in bands, interested in music,
my parents loved music and I loved working in record stores.
It's all I've ever done my entire life
since I got out of high school.
We have three stores now
and each one of them would be considered
the largest record store on the planet.
We became a place for weirdo record geeks like myself
to have a good job and create a community.
It's a perfect job for me.
I get to sleep in late, I get to wear my hair long
and just be myself.
- The record shop in the pre-internet days,
it was where you would go to find your crowd of people,
it was where you would go to find out about music
and records and buy concert tickets
and maybe see a band play.
That's just where anyone who was interested
in all that kind of stuff was hanging out.
- Goin' to a record store was part of my life.
It was something I always did,
I never imagined I wouldn't be doing that.
[soft music]
So I was opening a record store in the '90s
and Dr. Dre was just about to drop Snoop.
It was an interesting time.
My musical experience was difference
than the older guys who'd opened record stores before me
and everybody's gonna put a little bit of themselves
into their space.
Well I think the typical Sound Garden employee is people
who truly love records and record stores.
This is where they'd want to hang out.
We don't care if you have a drink while you're working
or you're high on weed.
We don't really give a shit, you know?
It's not like we're school bus drivers here.
It's a community of people
who are very similar to their customers.
[soft music continues]
- I feel like if you walk into my store
and you can't find something you like,
then I have somehow failed in my mission
to be a record shop.
I want the kid who walks in,
if she's eight or nine years old,
to find her favorite record
and as she develops her own musical taste
over the next 10, 20 years,
she can find everything that she likes
here at the record shop.
- I'd never seen anything like it in my life
and there are people
standing in front of record bins going like this.
So I just kind of saddled up to one of the record bins
and I start flipping through and felt like, you know,
this is a world that I wanted to be in.
- You know you basically are gonna get turned on to things
just by looking this way or that way,
as opposed to having something fed to you
by some logarithm.
- There's a lot of records that only exist as records,
so going into like a dusty record store,
digging under the shelves into the other crates
and it's almost like being an archeologist
and digging out stuff.
- I love digging in the crates.
Unfortunately I always wear a really nice shirt
when I should be wearing a really grungy shirt
to go dig in the crates.
- I think fun is really the bottom line to it all.
It's fun to go to stores.
You bump into somebody you know,
you see what they're buying.
- I go up the block here to Record City,
maybe pop into my bar up there, Westbury Inn,
have a beer.
Yeah, after a beer I definitely get more records.
[couple laughs]
- My strategy is to just be comfortable
and touch all the records in the store.
- I'm a terrible browser.
I'm like anything could be in there.
He's like-
- [Couple] Anything could be in there. [laughs]
- And often anything is.
- For people who like to collect records,
the thrill of what might be behind the door
of that little shop, you know,
I've never been stunned to find an MP3.
- Finding something that,
the day before you didn't even previously know existed,
like finding a South African pressing
of the first Stooges album.
To most people that's going to seem
entirely inconsequential.
Like, "Oh, is it different music?"
"Oh no, it's the same master that was used
at the Columbia Pitman pressing plant in the United States."
"Oh is it a different cover?"
"No, it's the same picture."
"Well what's different about it?"
"Well they used a slightly different back cover orientation
and the center label's different."
"That's it?"
"Yeah, that's it."
That makes...
That's the highlight of a month.
That is really, really exciting.
- Who are the most passionate weirdos?
They're passionate weirdos is who they are
and by the way, I subscribe to that,
you know I am a member of the tribe.
[graceful music]
- Music had been a way of dealing with depression for me,
a way of being less lonely
as I kind of left my hometown very young
and was moving around
and very often didn't have anyone around me.
You know I'm like poor and 18 years old
and what ended up happening is somebody,
who was a little older than me,
took me into their big demo room, sat me down
and played me a live David Bowie recording
on this like $300,000 LYD Dynaudio system
and absolutely wrecked my frame of reference
for what good sound was.
It was like okay, well I can have this emotional experience,
this anti-depressant experience and I can have it be better?
Sign me up.
- I have a nice sound system at home.
I have a very nice turntable.
I keep my records clean
and when I'm listening to a record I have to pay attention.
- See, this is hi-fi,
okay?
High fidelity.
- Audiophiles are the worst.
They are the worst, come on.
They are passionate
about all the wrong things about vinyl records.
They prefer to complain than to just sit back
and ignore that .01% of imperfection here.
And I'm sure this will be used against me in a court of law
and I've just dug my own grave.
I get as much.
- I think the dominant image you see of record collectors
and the media tends to be some version
of "The Simpsons" comic store guy.
- Someone has mixed an "Amazing Spider-Man" in
with the "Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man" series.
This will not stand.
- I'm not saying that's completely false
because I've met people that certainly fit that profile.
But I think over the years,
I've met a very, very diverse array of people
who are into records.
You don't necessarily see that reflected, though,
in the depictions that we have for record collectors.
- Nah, that one's not so great.
This is the one I'd recommend.
It's a, I mean this track alone by Memphis Minnie
is worth about $500 if you own the original 78.
- [Enid] Wow.
[Rebecca snorts] [foot stomps]
- It always has been
kind of a boys club kind of thing historically.
- I think that's a stereotype and I would beg to differ
because I was buying vinyl when I was a teenager
and I'm not a young white male or a middle-aged white,
or I wasn't, yeah.
- The big struggle that the high-end audio industry
has identified for itself is this evolving discussion
that's about how to reach out to women, people of color,
you know all sorts of youth, minority,
all of those sort of sectors
that they've never touched on before.
And ironically, they continue to do the exact things
that are not helpful in that pursuit
and that is to treat women like children
and young people like they're idiots
and people of color like criminals.
If you want to change things, you have to just do it.
- The fact that then I thought that vinyl belonged,
in a certain sense, to that certain kind of white man,
was definitely encouraged by the images
whenever anybody was talking about vinyl.
- You guys are snobs.
- No, we're not.
- No, seriously, you're totally elitists.
You feel like the underappreciated scholars
so you shit on the people who know less than you.
- No. - Which is everybody.
- Yeah. - Yes.
- I think a lot of people think
that when you go to a record store,
the owner is gonna be grumpy
and he's gonna sort of judge you
and I've certainly felt that way.
- I've had more than one male cable technician walk in
and look at my records
and say, "Wow, whose records are these?"
If I had a penis, you would assume they were my records.
- Do I feel good when someone's like,
"Oh cool, the DJ is a woman.
That's cool, that's different."
Like, dude, I'm tryin' to just do my job here,
I don't need commentary.
I might be really colorful.
I might have weird records,
but I've been doing this for 10 years
and I know how to run a mixer,
I know how to run a turntable,
I know how to beat match.
Like I know these things
and I'm just ready for people to just assume that I do.
โช The stuff that held back
โช Do want somebody
[vibrant rap music]
- During the low point of vinyl sales,
the one community I think that still held onto it
was really DJs.
When everyone else decided to shift over to other formats,
those particular DJs were always
still gonna stay loyal to vinyl.
- The DJs, you know, they demanded it.
If the labels weren't gonna do it,
there were bootlegs coming out
and I think they were kinda forced into keeping it going
through like the '90s.
[playful scratching music]
It's a medium that lends itself to creativity.
Like there's endless,
like crazy things you can do with vinyl.
[audience cheering]
- With the DJs, we have hip-hop, we have punk,
but in between there there was a layer of kids
that were influenced by hip-hop,
but wanted to do something new,
placing samples together to make beats.
[light music]
- In the 2000s,
digital DJing in a particular vinyl emulation systems
or digital vinyl systems like Serato,
when these began to come online
a lot more DJs were happy to embrace that.
- Control signals come in all different colors,
whether they be vinyl, and sizes.
They also come in CD form
or you can put the file on a USB stick.
- So much to my surprise,
these people who had been DJs since the 1980s,
begin to just liquidate their entire collections.
- We've seen a decrease definitely,
definitely in hip-hop 12 inches
and dance 12 inches over the years.
And I think that DJs now don't spin vinyl as much.
- I had a tour in Japan a while back
and the promoter was like, "Hey, are you gonna bring vinyl?"
And I said, "Well, if I do are they paying more,
'cause I have more baggage fees," and stuff like that.
He goes, "No."
I was like, "Okay.
Well then why would I bring it, you know?" [laughs]
- Boom, that's iPod.
I happen to have one right here in my pocket in fact.
[audience laughing]
There it is right there.
[audience applauding]
[upbeat music]
- [Kurt] It all came crashing down in the Napster era.
- And I just was like, "No, why?
It's here, why change it?"
- It's the era of the MP3
that delivers the coup de grace, if you will.
- [Steve] To have your whole music library with you
at all times is a quantum leap in listening to music.
- I think that music fans took out their anger
or their
distress
with record labels on our shops.
We were the natural go-to for people to express their dismay
with pricing, with availability
and as a result, we were easy prey.
- [Reporter] There is a lot of history here
and it's gonna take a little while to liquidate it all
so you've probably got a couple of months left to come
and get a piece of this history for what it's worth.
- I think there was one year
where I didn't even release anything on vinyl as a label
and I was thinking like.
- And we didn't sell enough of it
to make it worth manufacturing,
you know, 500 of them in order to sell 50.
[car engines hum]
- [Kurt] A lot of record pressing plants
went out of business.
- Music was always really important to me,
but my career was in business.
In the mid-2000s, I kind of reached a point
where I decided that I wanted to find something
that was kind of a smaller, more niche-like business
where I could be more hands-on involved.
And this is where it all began.
That was my old desk.
[light switches click]
I wasn't looking for a vinyl record manufacturer.
It never occurred to me that I might find one of those,
but this business had existed since 1949.
[light switches click]
I knew enough about music and I had enough beliefs
that vinyl's not gonna go away.
I thought it could be something
where it would be a good, stable investment,
I could spend time on it
that would be emotionally meaningful
and I thought I could add value to the business.
Some of this is left.
There's our old break room.
So I bought the company in 2007
and thought it was gonna be stable
and require a little attention, but not a lot.
This is the Motown Suite.
This is where the Motown artists would celebrate
their new record releases.
And they needed a place to come
because they couldn't get space
in the segregated South back in the '60s.
And everything is completely intact
and
I'm sure if these walls could talk,
there'd be some great stories.
A large part of what the company did when I bought it
was they made 12 inch single records for DJs,
promotional records.
That's how the major labels would support a new artist.
Scattered throughout here we had three press rooms.
We had seven presses in this little room,
six presses going down there
and another eight presses going back there.
And we shoved an awful lot in this small little building.
Shortly after I bought the company,
the labels decided to discontinue that practice
of producing 12 inch single records.
That had a devastating impact
on this small, stable business that I thought I had bought.
Suddenly it became a very challenged business.
[light switches click]
There's nothing that said it's going to come back
and it got worse before it got better.
[somber music]
[crowds murmur]
- 2007 is sort of considered the bottom.
That year the market sold less than a million units.
I think my wife and I were married,
we were getting ready to move for the third or fourth time,
as you are when you're young and just married,
and it was like, I don't have the space, I'm done.
I got rid of all my records.
- Back then, we were on all in media stories
for actually going out of business
and our business is failing
and I was like, that's a horrible story to tell.
We're like telling people we're not cool anymore
and that's all we have is being cool.
So we held a conference for all the indie record stores
called Noise in the Basement and we were talkin' about
how we can perhaps change the perceptions,
just change the story.
I said, "Hey, maybe we could do something
called Record Store Day."
- Yes, we're gonna throw a party for ourselves.
That seems a little weird,
but let's try it and see what happens.
And if you throw a party,
it's will people show up to your party?
- Vinyl was our only hope
and we just hoped somebody else would give a shit.
โช You've been, you've been
โช Runnin' through my mind
โช And I've been thinkin' that
We can get artists to contribute some tracks,
some 7 inches,
some things that are only exclusive to us.
- The idea is they're limited.
What format lends itself to that? Vinyl.
- Check this out,
this is Chuck D for Record Store Day.
- [Bryan] It was like all the biggies.
Metallica was our first Record Store Day ambassadors.
From there it just continued to grow.
- Of course I'm no stranger to the title ambassador.
- I now have the power to command you
to attend Record Store Day.
- I'm kind of blown away about what it is now.
We started it six years ago
and we only had 30 artists participate.
Now we have 350 artists participating, it's worldwide.
Record Store Day gave me and the employees who work here
an opportunity to continue to work
in an environment we love.
You know we're kinda cool again.
- You know, no accounting for the human heart,
it's a very strange machine.
- As you can see in the room we're sitting in,
I haven't
stopped
then rebuying the records I got rid of,
or just buying more records.
So I was on the wagon is what I'm saying
and now,
I'm drunk with vinyl.
[upbeat music]
- It was just this gradual change
and you all of a sudden realize
that there's more and more stores opening up,
there's more and more online retailers
that are carrying vinyl.
- All sorts of independent entities
continued to make records when the majors weren't.
- And if you have clout as an artist,
you're going to want to have this experience,
not this experience.
- I think that's when we started
to see a younger demographic.
- I think I was like 15 or 16 when my dad bought me
like one of those Crosleys,
not the powder blue one, it was a different color.
And he bought like The Postal Service "Give Up" record,
[laughs] which is kinda funny to me
that that's my first record
'cause it's like kinda ridiculous.
- More attention has been paid in recent years
to reaching an audience where the default setting
is not white dudes of a certain age.
- I definitely think this second generation of record fans
has maybe destigmatized the idea that everyone
that likes vinyl is this weird dude with a ponytail,
kinda hangin' out listening to only vinyl.
- When I first started
and I would go to other people's houses,
like their record player was something
that only they could touch
and now you're starting to see that kind of break down.
- And now that it's kind of everywhere
and really easy to order and really easy to come across,
I think more and more people are starting
to listen to vinyl.
- [Billy] And you walk into a record store
and you see families and little kids and men and women.
It's literally not a bunch of old white guys like me.
- People of all colors, all races,
there's absolutely no way to tell
when a person walks in the store what they're gonna buy.
- As a kid, my parents didn't have a record player.
I didn't have a turntable
until I was out of college, really
and that's when I started devotedly collecting records.
[soft celestial music]
So I started going out and seeing DJs playing vinyl
and I thought, "I want to do that."
I have really good records, I have good taste,
why am I not seeing girls up there?
Why do I not see myself up there?
I knew that there were girls out there
that wanted to learn how to DJ,
they just didn't know how to start.
So I wanted to create this platform
for girls to get together to talk about records,
to skill share and that's how Chulita Vinyl Club started.
[lively music]
- I'd never seen women DJ up there before,
so I was like if they could do, then I can do it, too.
- We started with a couple of girls,
two, three girls, including myself
and at the moment we have about 55 girls
in seven different cities.
It's more than just teaching each other how to DJ
or talking about records.
Girls that have never met each other
met at Chulita Vinyl Club
and they're, you know, the best of friends now.
- Everybody's got their own style and own flavor
and I think that's part of the club, you know?
- [Claudia] We have each other's backs.
It's an awesome sisterhood.
- Being able to hold the music
that you're about to put on is really cool.
I didn't have a ton of physical music
as a kid
and then I had none
as iTunes became a bigger part of my life.
- What happened in the late '90s, early 2000s,
is that music became very passive.
It became very easy to listen to it through your iPod,
through your device, through your computer,
through your laptop.
- There was this sense
that music was becoming evermore ephemeral
and evermore portable and evermore sort of on the wind.
But at the same time,
there were people who I think in reaction to that
were also interested in having music
that they could hold in their hands.
- I like the ritual of putting a record on and sitting down.
- I definitely like having the physical album
in front of me, putting it on the turntable
and really having that experience of doing nothing else
but listening to that record.
- And then having to kind of pay attention
and go back 20 minutes later and flip the side.
- There are people who are drawn to the inconvenience.
There are people who are drawn to inconvenience period
because you feel like you're working for your art
and
streaming strips that away
in the name of convenience and access.
- Now you just bark out a command to some box in the corner
and it plays music for you.
- Alexa, play rock music.
- [Alexa] Rock music.
[hard guitar music]
- I love walking down my hallway at home
and there's just a big wall of records
and I can look at them
and remember the memories associated with them,
like where I got this or this record came from my parents.
- If you catch the bug early on,
it sticks with you and it's a way to go back to a happier,
you know, more innocent time.
- It's like when you're young
and you're discovering things for the first time,
it's so great.
- It's kind of ironic because vinyl is a nostalgic thing,
but I also think it's novel to me
as someone who thinks of music as a digital item.
- When we are buying something we are defining ourselves,
especially younger people.
We're lookin' for ways to tell ourselves who we are.
- "I'm a guy who listens
to Faith No More's 'The Real Thing,'"
and if you're that guy,
every time you open your record cabinet
and you see "The Real Thing,"
it's like that's the reflection of the person
that you most idealize in yourself
and you get to take that out
and have this you know sacred event with it.
At the end of the day you're listening
to Faith No More's "The Real Thing,"
you're just going about it the long way.
[soothing music]
[wind rustling]
- My attraction to vinyl has been a combination
of good association from my childhood
and also I really like the art form of it,
that you can display a vinyl record.
This one
is special to me
because it's the very first album cover recreation
that I did, also it has A Tribe Called Quest break in it.
People ask me all the time
how I got started doing album cover recreations
and there's no real magical story to it.
It's just that I saw this at my parent's house,
my parents had at the time a huge orange tabby cat
and it just hit me like, "Oh, that'd be so funny
if I could put the cat in as the lion," and anyway.
It just started with that one
and I got such a huge reaction,
people thought it was so funny.
I was like, "Well if you like that, I'm gonna keep going.
I'll show you this and this and this."
I feel like I'm spreading knowledge
or spreading information about the record.
I really pride myself on trying to write in the caption
something about the circumstances
under which that album was made.
So who was the producer, who played bass, who played guitar,
the photographer, too.
Like before this,
I had no real way to demonstrate my enthusiasm for music
because I'm not a musician,
I tried to be a DJ for a couple of years there,
but I'm not good at it.
I'm just a goofball.
It's just a perfect way to showcase my collection.
See, pretty convincing, right?
[laughs]
[upbeat guitar music]
- We never really stopped doing vinyl record jackets.
Did it come close to going away?
It did and then we saw it comin' back,
I would say about 12 years ago and it's just slowly grown.
One of the things I think that has done that
is people started making them a little bit more special.
Direct to board jackets, old style jackets,
12 inch, 10 inch, 7 inch, box sets
and lots of specialty items as well.
What we're kind of known for is we do old style jackets.
And what the old style jackets are
is they're printed on paper,
which is a little bit nicer to print on,
and then they're mounted to a gatefold blank.
They automatically get glue put on the backside of them
and then these blanks are hand mounted onto the sheets
and the front actually gets turned over
to the backside.
Once that's done, you now have the front,
what we call the cover and the liner side of the gatefold,
and then now this is what we call the inside spread.
So this is our smaller press.
This is a 29-inch Heidelberg, six color with a coater.
It prints around 8,000 sheets an hour.
Things are looking really good in our industry.
Not only is there more work to be done,
there's more really high-quality packaging to be done.
This is a flat sheet now,
but when we die cut, fold and glue,
this'll be a gatefold jacket.
I think people started making 'em special
to get people to buy vinyl instead of downloading.
Before it was like a single record jacket,
four color process, single record jacket,
but now there's just so many special coatings
and foil stamping and embossing
and scented or textured coatings.
Just whatever you can think up, we'll make it on a jacket.
[lively music]
Customers will come to us with an idea
and 90% of the time we'll make it happen
no matter what it is.
- Anytime you look at the mass introduction of a format,
and it's always been this way,
as it gets more and more accepted,
then you start to say,
"Okay, well how can we squeeze more profit
out of these things we're selling?"
So in the last throes of, you know, the '90s and the 2000s,
the packaging gets pulled back, the record gets pulled back.
It's a wonder any of them survived
any length of time out in the wild
because they were so thin and the jackets were so light
- But eventually people have the great idea, like QRP,
you know we'll let's do this, but let's really do it.
Let's make sure
that the temperature of the biscuit is just right.
Let's make sure the labels are always dead center.
Let's make sure that we have remastered the hell
out of this album
and that's where I think the maturity happened.
The average audiophile who would come into our stereo shop
was not asking for a music server or a CD player anymore,
they were asking for a turntable.
- The records are 180 gram, they're beautiful.
The whole outlay of the jacket is gorgeous.
It is a full sensory experience
that is incredibly rewarding.
- We always start with the vinyl package
and then the CD design will be based off of that.
- Probably my favorite physical album cover is,
it's one by The Format, it was called "Dog Problems"
and as you open the album,
like different sections of dogs kind of pop out.
- Probably one of the bigger things
that we're known for is nice deluxe packaging.
And you sit there and you read the liner notes,
you look at all the great photos
and you kind of follow along the story of the music
with the story in the book.
- The more special you can make the vinyl,
the more likely it is that people are gonna buy it.
You want to do limited, special packaging or colored vinyl.
Don't tell anybody,
but colored vinyl doesn't sound as good. [laughs]
- We try to anticipate, is there a novelty aspect
that makes sense to bring into this?
There's these little tricks
and these little sneaks that you learn about
and so you can have the groove on the record
start on the inside and play outward.
- Liquid-filled records and split color records,
a lot of things that we have done,
we've done together with the artist.
Perhaps the strangest of all those requests
and one that we were willing to manufacture the components,
but actually not complete the assembly
was a blood-filled record
for Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips.
- In elementary school we used to do these balloon launches
where everyone in the school got a helium balloon
and attached to it was a postcard with your name on it
and you let 'em go.
I remember some turning up
in New Hampshire, New England area.
Like wow, that's hundreds of miles, that's so insane.
So how can we do that with records?
So it's with great excitement
that we release Jack White's "Freedom at 21" on a flexi-disc
only available via helium balloon launch.
And we got hundreds upon hundreds of helium balloons
and we just let 'em go.
I hope you can find one.
And they started showing up in people's yards,
people started putting 'em on Ebay,
people are paying $4,000 for a flexi-disc.
That, to us, was really, really cool.
[hopeful music]
- The toughest thing about opening a brand-new record store
is that there are already records at Walmart
and there are already records at Target
and there's loads of records at Amazon,
so you really have to offer something unique.
We try to have a very cool, sort of bohemian vibe
It sometimes feels like a temple
where somebody can come in and receive,
almost like a sacrament,
receive in the music that might be life-changing music
or might have extremely intimate relationships with them.
- [Kat] I will help you with that-
- [Customer] Do you know anything about this?
It's got all kinds of signatures all over it,
but was it anything?
- It's open? - Yeah, I mean-
- [Kat] Oh, this is a, oh, this is a Dwight record.
We bought it, well we got a collection from this guy-
- [Customer] Okay, I just love the inside with the pictures
and all that-
- He wrote, he wrote a lot of things on it.
We've been open for about six months.
We opened last October, so October 2018.
We're really picky about condition
and we try to source more unusual stuff,
usually European pressings.
Something that you would hear and you'd say, "What's this?
I need to have a copy of this."
We call ourselves a ma and pa store.
People come in, we tend to know people's names,
if we don't we'll ask you your name.
I've had mothers bring their daughters
and I feel like I'm sort of a safe shop for them to come to.
I try to be extremely nice and welcoming
to everybody who comes into the shop.
[bell jingles] Hello.
Don't mind us. - Okay.
- Hey there.
- In May of 2008,
I was left with a company that had a lot of issues
and we set out to reposition the company
to be in a place for the day when, lo and behold,
commercial vinyl started to grow again.
- All those independent labels
and independent artists continued
to make records in the dark ages,
but you would not have a comeback
without the majors being involved.
- I didn't know that this was gonna happen,
it didn't play out at all like I thought it would,
but fortunately it came together and worked out okay.
Building one is where it starts here,
we receive raw materials.
- [Billy] You need the records that millions of people want,
not tens of thousands of people want.
- So we've now entered building two,
which is where we actually manufacture the records.
- You'll have tens of thousands, possibly hundreds
of thousands of records pressed for that single title
and that makes a big difference at the manufacturing level.
It's just, it's a bigger deal.
- You've seen a generation that has discovered,
"Hey, this thing exists out there.
I love this artist," whether it's Taylor Swift
or whether it's The Allman Brothers.
Yes, I can stream it onto my phone, but this thing is real.
[bright music]
- "There's nothing new under the sun
and everything that's old will become new again."
I realized that's especially true about vinyl
when I started seeing like portable record players available
in places like Urban Outfitters
and they were in different colors,
I was like, "Oh, my God, it's become a trend."
โช I think I like you
โช I think you like me, too
- Urban Outfitters is not a record store,
we are a lifestyle store.
When we began in the vinyl business,
we were buying it more as a collectible piece,
or as a decorative piece.
And I'll never forget when a record came
and there was only one
and it was the weirdest thing being in the store
is getting one record because you were like,
"Well A, where is this supposed to go?
And B, who's gonna ever need vinyl?"
- I got this from Urban Outfitters
and I will have a full review
on the actual record player itself on my blog.
- [Becky] As the industry has grown,
we're seeing it also as a way to listen to your music
on top of also being a collectible.
One of our top-selling artists is Billie Eilish.
Just like her, I think what we service
is that 17-year-old girl that's like experiencing
and getting to know how amazing it is to own vinyl.
- Let's see what the pressing looks like.
Oh, my God it is like white.
- One of the coolest moments of me ever buying music
[laughs] was when we released Britney Spears on vinyl.
When that came out there was just so much press about it
and so many fans that were so excited
that they were finally able to really own that album
in a bigger way than just the CD format.
- So this what the babe looks like.
She's a big girl.
- Our consumer base is typically 18-26 years old,
so they don't have a lot of disposable income
and so we find it important to offer them
that entry-level turntable
and Crosley's always been a great product
for that price point.
[car engines hum]
- Crosley's provided more turntables
than anyone else has in the last 10 years.
[buoyant music]
When we first started,
we were mainly servicing people who grew up with vinyl
and they just wanted to experience it again.
We started selling Target in 2006, 2007, Urban Outfitters.
Then we decided to expand outside of just retro
and make it more fashion based.
- It introduced a whole new generation
to vinyl
and a large percentage of these new listeners are female.
- [Blogger] I was really debating
getting the blue or the pink,
but the blue, in the end, matched my room better.
- All of the finishes are this light blue color
and my record player happens to also be a light blue.
I wouldn't be surprised if the record player was kind of
in the back of my head going,
"I would look so good in the apartment." [laughs]
- People are using our products
as like an extension of their personality.
So when you
search #crosley on Instagram,
you're gonna see a lot of Crosley shrines.
There's the Crosley turntable, suitcase-style flipped open,
cool piece of like mid-century modern furniture.
There's twinkly lights and like there's always succulents,
you can't forget succulents.
So many succulents.
I don't know that like Gen Z necessarily
thinks of it as like an old medium.
My daughter doesn't even know what a CD is,
but she has a turntable.
She has a small vinyl collection of like 15 albums,
mostly Disney.
You know I had to teach her, "Here's the cueing lever,
and like drop it manually.
Like always use this to drop it slowly.
Always hold the record like this."
From a young age, she picked up on it super quick.
- That's pretty much everything, kids.
Have fun collecting records.
[sweet guitar music]
- She just thinks it's always been here
or it's like this new cool thing,
which it is a new cool thing.
- Vinyl can really help you with parenting
in that being able to talk about music,
hear music and tell a story about an album
or a period of time, it gives you really nice inroads.
And I think when you're physically connecting,
when you're touching something,
it forges more connection for you
because you pause and you're talking to each other
and you're listening to each other in a different way.
Sunday vinyl is a family tradition
so I get up in the morning
and I play whatever the week has been
and then at dinnertime I play a few records
that are gonna take us into our next week.
If it's a blues record, folk music or a jazz record,
I'm giving something to them.
[lively dance music]
We have this day together and we have this time together
and it's our version of church.
[brakes squeal]
- My dad and I, we collect records together
and it's kinda like a father-son activity that we do.
I think on this side is like opera,
maybe, I think, over here is like jazz
and maybe some early stuff, like '50s, like early '60s.
Then in the middle it's all this rock because we love rock.
It's a good thing to discover, like,
things that I didn't really live, but other people lived.
Vinyl's still around,
but like typewriters aren't around anymore.
Like dialing phones, where you dial stuff,
those kinda died out.
Like regular dancing, like ballroom dancing,
like that really died out.
This is usually where we put our new stuff,
like when we go to a record store or swap,
we put the things here, David Bowie.
Sometimes I'm in the middle of school
and like everybody singin' this new pop song
and I'm like, "Gosh, I feel old."
Most of the time I'm like this is the right kind of music.
[frenzied glam rock]
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โช While the flies tried to break our balls โช
At the record swap,
a lot of the people there were like to my dad,
"Wow, you did a really good job raising this kid.
Like he likes what we like, not this new modern pop."
- In the past, I would have probably been too self-conscious
to even say what I'm into
because, oh, you're just gonna get ripped on
for what you're looking for.
"Oh, you're just lookin' for garage records?
Okay whatever, little kid," you know.
"Tell me when you start liking psychedelic,"
or something like that.
That would be my impression of the old record show,
but now it's way more inviting and convivial
and very, very warming I would say.
[car engines hum] [upbeat music]
There are still people who are exclusive about it,
but they had to realize at some point
it was either you be inclusive
or you don't have anyone to sell to.
- It's been really fun to grow up with the show.
When I was five years old, I was running around here
under the tables reading comic books.
My dad started it in 1981
and I've sort of been helping out more
and more the older I got.
- I'm 45, so I've been doing this for 30 years basically.
So I've seen every permutation of every job you can have
in the Austin Record Convention.
Once I graduated high school,
I started working at convention headquarters
and you know we basically run it now.
- Attention, we're about 15 minutes
from general admission starting.
As you can see, there's a lot of people still in a line
and we've been open for five or six hours,
so it's pretty incredible.
- This is one of the biggest shows we've had in a long time.
We have more dealers than we've had in a lot of years.
I think it's gonna be a great show for everybody.
- I want the dealers to be able to make money
and have a successful show
and I want the customers to come and be able to spend money
and be happy with sort of what they're spending
and what they got for it.
Like do you want to buy 10-$5 records or one-$50 record?
- [Meagan] Yes.
- [Customer] And it's sealed.
- [Meagan] And it's sealed.
Thank you very much.
And it is a DJ promo copy.
Thanks so much. - Thank you.
- That's how you sell a $400 record.
- We were told that this biggest record fair in the world.
Big stuff, good prices, nice people, nice city.
- Nice city, yeah, beautiful city.
- [Nathan] You know hardcore record collectors
are still a core demographic, you know,
and no matter what corner of the world they come from
or what their background is,
they have a lot in common with each other.
- I spent enough time in Vietnam
that I've earned the right to do
just about what the heck I want to do.
I paid like three grand for one just the other day,
for one record.
- I have been coming to the Austin Record Convention
since 1985.
- I'm a veteran, 30 years, plus.
Love it here, love it.
- I see a lot of old faces every year
at the Austin Record Convention,
but we see a lot of new younger kids,
we see a lot of people in their 20s,
we see a lot of parents bringing their little kids,
which is awesome.
- Andrea's first record was the new Kacey Musgraves album.
I'm hoping that she'll have some stuff to like look back on
and like you know cherish,
like collector's items and things like that.
- It's a generational thing now.
There's more women involved
and they're bringing their children and their moms,
which is great.
I wholeheartedly endorse that. [laughs]
- I have a big time soft spot for younger people
who are into it, especially kids, you know,
and if somebody's a newbie.
We absolutely love that.
- We are new record people,
we've been doin' this for six months
and it has been absolutely phenomenal.
- I didn't believe until I heard the difference, so.
- Well I think it's about how much fun vinyl is,
how much fun it is to shop for,
how much fun it it to like meet people
who are into the things you're into.
- I started collectin' records
when I was about eight years old.
Needless to say, 20,000 records later, it's a disease.
- There is an endless world of records
and that's what's like so appealing to me.
It's cool to be like accepted by that community
and to be like, you know, a younger girl who sells records.
- My daughter's here and Nathan's daughter's here
and she could have gone to a sleepover
and she was like, "No, I don't miss the record convention."
And I'm like, "Okay, well great, you're here with us."
- You know I don't always take the time
to kind of ponder how beautiful it is,
but it feels like a reunion in many ways.
We have people
who are actually all from different areas of life,
different ages, different backgrounds,
but when it comes to this thing,
we're kind of mostly on the same page already.
- This is a good one? - Yeah.
- Let's see. - That's where I would go.
I'll play it for you.
- Oh, yeah, if you don't mind.
- This is the beauty of it for me,
to talk to people and to do what we're doin' now.
Just talk about records, talk about music.
[light jazz music]
Just take a few minutes.
It's like wine, you get the bouquet,
you sip, you listen, the next thing you know...
Ho! What was that?
Surprise.
- For me vinyl's like something that has been in my life
since I was really small and like,
[laughs] it's weird,
I don't really think about this too much,
but it's just been something that I've had around me
and it's connected people forever.
- You put that back in the sleeve, that's your album.
- Awesome, thank you so much.
Have a good one. - You, too, man.
[customers murmuring]
- I am worried that the music industry,
the people at the big labels,
are gonna make a huge mistake again
the same way they did with CDs.
They've got kids excited about it
and you go to buy a reissue record that,
10 years ago, was $11 or $12, it's now $30
to buy a new copy of a Beatles record or whatever.
- Now when I'm a college student I have more expenses
than just coffee on the weekends.
If it gets up to the $30 price point,
I definitely think more about it.
- I do try to budget with each paycheck.
I always go over budget, but I have good intentions.
- What you have to look at is
by selling this piece of music,
is the artist being compensated correctly,
are we actually making the margin that we need as a company
to keep all of our lights on and keep the people employed,
and is there enough margin leftover for a record store
or a retailer of any sort
to be able to derive the margin they need?
As long as you're accounting for those three things
then what you price it at is appropriate.
- There's so many costs that go into these things
'cause it is sort of a bespoke artisan-type thing
that I think people might get angry about something
or "Why is it so expensive?"
And you know it's because it costs a lot of money
to make these things this way.
[fans murmuring]
- People take for granted that you must have paid nothin'
and you're charging too much for things
and that's just sort of a general view
that a lot of customers have.
- When you put in foil stamping and individual numbering
and it's 180 gram vinyl
and you actually did full analog mastering,
like all of these things add cost
into every single record that you make
and the margins have to stay the same,
that means all the pricing has to go up.
- In 1977, a $10 record would be $35 today.
We are not charging more for records now.
- But are the majors, though, horrible, evil people?
Yeah, sure, yeah, oh yeah we're terrible, we're mean.
โช You make me feel like
- As more and more people started making vinyl again,
including the major labels,
you know, reissuing Beatles records,
our timelines had to get way longer.
When it comes to you know a punk band in Berkeley
that's trying to get their 7 inch out
and they're you know a year out of being able to do that
because you have like a million "Lego Movie" LPs
that are like, whatever.
No shade.
โช Everything is awesome
But whatever.
- There's always going to be a backlog at the plants
that make the best records
that take the longest time to make.
A lot of times I'll get into conversations
with people about, "Well can you make this faster?"
I was like, "Well, no,
because then you're outside the space-time continuum."
It was like this is physics,
like it takes a certain number of seconds to make a record.
[soft music] [car engines hum]
- I was in the studio and I was like really busy
'cause I was doing tech work before the band started
and I was like, "Okay, I gotta call QRP
and set up the order for my record coming out."
So I Googled on my phone, QRP
and I just hit the button, called them
and I was like, "Hey, my name is John Vanderslice,
I've had a few orders with you in the past.
I just wanted to see about lag time
and maybe setting up an order."
And so they're like, "Okay, let me put you on hold."
So they put me on hold, they came back and they said,
"Yeah, we see a few orders for you."
"Well do you see my quantity
for the last record, 'Dagger Beach,' I think it was 2,000?"
"Hold on, let me put you on hold."
It was like, man, they don't seem to know anything
about vinyl production.
I'm asking them basic questions about like scheduling
and minimums and who does the plating and et cetera.
And then I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna call you back,"
it just got confusing.
And then I hung up and maybe a minute later,
someone called me and it was a different person
and it was a guy
who sounded like kinda car salesman-y.
Scammy.
And he's like, "Hey, so I just wanted to clear up,
so did you want to place an order?"
And I was like, "Who is this?"
They're like, "You just called us."
And I was like, "Why are you calling me?"
He's like, "Well I was listening in to the phone call."
No shit. And that's when it hit me, I was like oh, my God.
I looked at my phone, I was calling a scam company
and they were pretending to be QRP.
They knew what I was doing.
They're lying to me and saying that they saw my orders.
It was fucking crazy, it was amazing.
This is in vinyl production.
Think about this,
most of these motherfuckers don't even own a turntable,
so scammers everywhere.
This is like so typical.
- The record boom definitely has messed up,
at some points, the quality.
For example off center, meaning that the grooves,
instead of the record needle playing
and just kind of tracking like this,
it goes woo, woo, [laughs] you know.
[sound wavering]
You know a lot of people, I guess,
really aren't playing or opening 'em
or they're not that picky.
- I despise buying a brand new record,
putting it on the turntable and having it be warped,
defective or otherwise made in a way
that is not up to standards that I would expect.
I'm not suggesting
that somehow we're immune from that problem,
but that's the thing that most upsets me.
Sometimes even all the people
that do the best work have problems.
- It's hard to make a record.
It's a manual process and it relies on a lot of technology
that's 100 years old or more.
[light music]
- In my previous role,
I was the head of music partnerships at Google
and simultaneously was managing bands with my sister
and one of the things I was seeing
in my role as a band manager was how many young fans
were asking for vinyl at the merch tables.
So the more that this was happening,
I was starting to order vinyl for my bands
and it was taking a quoted four to six months to get product
when you need it quickly.
So just as a thought experiment
I put together a business pitch deck.
I'm just curious if someone would finance this
and I walked into the bank and I said,
"I'm looking for loan financing,"
and I walked out with a half a million dollar commitment
to start a factory. [laughs]
How we built the factory is meant to be different
than what you can find at other plants.
We came in as a new plant, said we're gonna do it better
and faster than any other plant.
Well it's almost sacrilegious to some people,
but we think, what if we brought some more innovation
to a space that really had seen any in so long?
You know it's plastic, it's not great for the environment
and what I asked my team to do with me
to say hey, these are the inefficiencies we're seeing,
how can we employ you know a different way of thinking
that's not, "Oh, that's the way it's always been done"?
What it's resulted in our records come off so clean.
I've heard from other pressing plants
that they'll throw up to 30% of records away.
We're down to, on a good day, .5%.
[machines hum]
[vinyl clatters]
- The production of records,
it's not the best thing for the environment at all.
I think on the flip side, we're simply not producing vinyl
in the same amounts that we used to.
So whatever the environmental impact
would have been a generation ago,
we are now at a fraction of that.
- You know vinyl is recyclable,
you can recycle it and put it into future pressings.
That is great.
- So this is our vinyl recycling room.
When you manufacture a record you have excess vinyl.
We regrind that and use that, mix it in with virgin
in subsequent generations of records.
We have devoted quite a bit of time to our energy systems
to allow us to recapture and recycle
what would be essentially exhaust,
to be more efficient and less wasteful.
- It's, yeah, as someone who is concerned
about the environment and tries to take strides
to be not a litter bug, to recycle, to buy less plastic,
to do stuff like that,
here's a wall of stuff
that's gonna take 40,000 years to degrade.
We all like to think that these are gonna be very important
to generations after generations.
You know this Shangri-Las record,
somebody's gonna want this in 2075, right?
- The idea that records can last 70 years is fucking crazy.
I mean that's crazy.
My goal is to make a record that sounds good enough
that someone will listen to it for 20 years.
- I have records that I've had since I was, you know, 13.
Do I have most other things that I've had since I was 13?
No.
- Lots of things I would happily not have.
I'll turn off a lot more lights,
I'll take way shorter showers,
I'll take way fewer showers to keep my records.
- You know you deal with these questions
and the best thing to do is put a record on really loud
and just try to drown those thoughts out.
[frantic guitar music]
- Detroit is known for making things
and that's what we're doing here at Third Man Pressing.
A vinyl record pressing plant
where people can come in the front door, look at vinyl,
but then go in the back and see records being made
only really helps, you know, the music industry
and Detroit really connect.
- Part of the design
and the vision from Jack was the heavy, bulky,
ugly machinery that just kind of sits there
has all been put behind walls, soundproofed
and just visually eliminated to create an uncluttered look.
This is kind of a whole different approach
to making a product.
So what Sam is doing is operating two machines right now.
She's kind of working in tandem here.
In an eight hour shift,
she can get anywhere from 1,100 to 1,300 records.
[machine snaps]
- Our first year we were around 250,000 pieces,
the second year around 700
and this year we're gonna probably come in
at a million plus.
- Behind us is the board that has what is on press.
We are here to press for everybody.
- It's very important that we support local bands.
Even though their orders might be smaller,
but it's extremely important
that they're able to take, you know, 7-inch records
or even a 12 inch to their shows.
- We do recycle as much of the product as possible
and grind it all down
and then you can make more records from it.
Definitely don't want any of it goin' in a landfill.
- My hope is that kids that visit here,
you know, dive in and they tell their friends about it
and then they go and visit their local record stores.
- A lot of times we get people in on tours
who have not experienced what vinyl sounds like.
It can be an eye,
or let's say ear-opening experience for them
to be able to experience that for the first time.
โช Write it all the way down
- You know a record will give you goosebumps.
If it's a good pressing, good quality,
the sound of it can really do something to you physically.
[upbeat dance music]
- Do I think vinyl sounds better?
- Better than what?
- People are like, "Oh yeah, vinyl just sounds better."
But they don't say it sounds better than.
- In comparison to streaming,
in comparison to 8-tracks, in comparison to tapes.
- I think the whole analog sound
is more pleasing to the ear.
- There's something natural
about like a needle vibrating in a groove
and creating the sound
versus the zeroes and ones and everything.
- If all you've ever done is listen to streaming
through your AirPods,
you're not going to have a frame of reference
to understand, like, "Wow, that's your favorite record?"
Ooh, let's play your favorite record for you
on a record player.
- Like obviously it sounds better
than listening to something on your laptop's speakers
'cause your laptop's speakers probably sound like shit,
but does it sound better than listening to a CD in the car?
- I just don't get that warmth
out of CD that I get out of vinyl.
- I mean they're better than tapes,
but are they better than the digital streaming? [laughs]
Um.
- The idea that a mass-produced cassette sounds worse
than like a bullshit record,
it's actually so offensive to me
because cassettes are hella cheap to make
and they can sound better than shitty records.
I find it worth pushing back on.
- The way everything sounds varies
depending on a lot of different variables.
- How you're standing in relation to the speakers,
what's on the walls, what's on the floor.
- How well it was recorded, how well it was mastered.
- Honestly, it depends on the music.
I would never really think to listen
to the new Ariana Grande on vinyl.
- The idea that analog is a superior format to digital
or that digital is superior to analog
is basically horseshit.
- If it doesn't actually sound better,
I could really give a shit
[Ashley laughs]
because I like to touch 'em and hold 'em and flip 'em
and look at 'em and go through the liner notes and-
- Sliding it out of the sleeve
and getting it out of the plastic
and putting it in the MoFi sleeve
and then putting it on the deck.
- Lifting up the tone arm and putting it on
and like trying to put it right on-
- That experience is far
and above scrolling through your playlist on your phone.
- Does it sound great because that was a time in my life
that it brings me back to or does it really sound that good?
- I don't necessarily think that vinyl sounds better.
I think it sounds better for me.
- There are a lot of different ways
that I could listen to a song.
I keep listening to them on vinyl
because of how it feels, not just how it sounds.
- But to each their own.
- This is the burning question in my life
because now you can free service,
you can get streaming service.
[soft music]
- The reason vinyl sales increases
and streaming popularity kind of coincide
is because streaming allows discovery.
- You literally can sample everything that is out there
and then make your buying decisions based on that sampling.
- If I really enjoy a band
and I listen to their whole albums on streaming services,
I will definitely make a point to buy the record
because I do feel passionately enough about them
that I want to support them in some other way.
- [Caren] 'Cause you can get the music elsewhere,
but you can't get the liner notes,
you can't get the photo booklet.
- You have gotta have it.
- This is a different experience
that is weirdly complete harmony with streaming
and also the complete opposite of streaming.
- I think it's cool to be able
to access so much different music
and listen to such a diverse kind of array of sounds,
but I don't know, I really like the sequencing of a record.
- I kinda go back and forth.
You know if I'm on the subway
I'm obviously gonna listen [laughs] to the Spotify version,
but if I'm settled in my house for the night,
I would probably reach for the vinyl.
[water rushing]
- I just moved to the place where we're here right now
and we live on top of a mountain here
and there's two switchbacks that make it,
so you can only have a certain size moving truck.
I had to take out all of the records myself
and we had to be out of the house
that we were in on moving day
and you know it's about 13,000 records.
So what you're talking about is boxes and boxes
and boxes of dead weight.
[sighs] [lock rattles]
Every box that I was moving,
I was coming face to face with my, you know,
habitual collecting demons in a way
that no psychologist could have ever helped me out with
and I vowed to myself
that like it was time to stop. [laughs]
So I have this whole thing now
where if I get a record, I've gotta get rid of three.
You know you want your collection to be easily accessible.
You want every record you pull out
to something that brings you total joy.
A good night for me is when I wake up
and there's a stack of records that are out of their sleeves
and strewn around and I realize that, man,
last night I had a really good time, you know?
And you can't do that if you're gonna treat them
like some bizarre objects that are in museums
and things like that.
When you have a dog, you pet the dog.
Look, when I have this dog I pet this dog
and I love this dog like this,
I don't just put her on a shelf and not worry about her.
And you know I feel the same way about my records.
[dog huffs] Yeah.
[soft music]
- My mom used to say, "Do you have enough records?
Don't you have enough?
When are you gonna have enough?"
And I said, "Mom, you know you don't get it, Mom.
There's never enough records."
And I think 20 years later, you know,
I think she was right. [laughs]
We use these like IKEA shelves that fit records perfectly,
like every record collector knows 'em.
Like a five-by-five of those, 25 cubes all together,
that's like the ideal amount of records, right?
It's enough for you to like have enough to listen to
and go a little deep, but you don't have too much.
And that way if you get more records
you can always like make sure you get rid of 'em after,
it always fits in there, right?
It's kinda hard to do.
I have so much personal history tied up
in every single record and so I don't know,
that's something I need to actually practice.
I haven't got there yet, but one day.
- My wife, Bev, when she and I found this place
we had a conversation.
We loved the place, we knew it was the place for us,
you know it had a fireplace,
we're like, "That's really cool,"
and I said, "You know I'm glad
there's a storage space downstairs
that comes with the apartment
because that way I'll have a place to put the vinyl."
And she's like, "We would never buy a place
unless you could have your vinyl out.
You're not gonna put the vinyl in storage."
And so it was like that just made, you know,
like she's good peeps.
- When my future wife first came to my place
and she saw what was probably
at least 4 to 5, 6, 7,000 records all packed in this place
she was like, "Wow." [laughs]
But you know the cool thing was when we finally got a place
she was like, "Oh, see this wall right here,
you could put all your records right here."
And I was like, man, I really lucked out.
- When you really love music
but you can't go buy the music you love and own it,
learning how to perform it well
is sort of the replacement for it.
You know my siblings and I,
it was never just like, "Oh, come listen to this song
and let's talk about it.
Let's talk about why we like this song
and you know what we're hearing in the song."
It was like, "No, I'm Beyoncรฉ, you're Michelle,
you're Kelly, let's go."
You know what I mean?
And you know all the words to the song
and you know all the moves to the song.
Like I grew up with music
being mostly in the idea of performance,
so I need to be able to have my space
to do my performance [laughs] and enjoy my music.
- But those big performances
have really been beneficial to me, too,
because it's kind of brought back this sense of play.
It's not just another thing that I know,
it's a thing I'm experiencing.
- That's in the teaching each other thing.
He taught me how to like be curious enough about music
to not just think about how it makes me feel,
but also think about where it came from
and what's the history of this sound.
But I get him to play.
- She taught me how to dance again.
[Ashley laughs]
She was like Kevin Bacon, I was like that whole town.
[couple laughs]
- Basically.
[crickets chirping] [airplane flying over]
[faint guitar music]
- [Kevin] Tell us what you think
would be a happy next phase of life
for your records after your gone.
- [sighs] I'm not gonna cry, Kevin.
I am 34 years old, so I don't think too hard about wills
and things like where do my books go,
where does my, you know, duvet cover go,
but [laughs] I do have this letter,
like it's in a Google Doc,
that my parents are aware of and my boyfriend's aware of.
So in the letter it says to my parents that
just when I pass let my boyfriend decide where my records go
'cause I trust that he'll make sure
that they're not going to Goodwill,
they're not going to a place where they won't be
touched
or enjoyed.
[heartfelt music]
I hope that my records will continue to be played.
It's a funny thing to cry about [laughs] objects
and not people or creatures,
but it is really sad to think
of my collection being separated from each other
and that conversation
that they all have together being broken.
[sniffs] And so, yeah, I wish for my records
just go to a place where someone is gonna go,
"Wow, that's a cool record.
That's a cool cover, I want to see what that's about."
I hope that someone will discover them
and have their own stories with them.
- [Kevin] Love you, old friend.
- It's so silly, they're records. [sniffs]
It's so silly. [laughs]
- No, no, I'd say the same thing. Are you kidding?
I'm just the one who gets to ask the questions.
[Ashleyanne laughs]
- You and I have this in common, that we love vinyl.
Were it not for music
we wouldn't be havin' this conversation, right?
And so I really feel that it is somethin'
that can be passed on.
Don't be intimidated
and don't let the music snobs or collectors
make you feel like this isn't approachable 'cause it is.
Even if it's "Best of the '80s,"
go on and get that "Best of the '80s."
That might change your life.
[happy music]
- [Caren] I think we're seeing this pendulum
swing back toward analog
because we're gathering around together
in a much more human way
and one of the things
that I hope we learn from vinyl's resurgence
is this want for human connection.
- [Stephen] I want to share the things I love
with people who will love them,
that's really all that matters to me.
- [Ashleyanne] When I'm looking through my records
when I'm gonna play,
I'm like, "That one reminds me of Paul,
that one reminds me of Daniel, that one reminds me of Amy."
I have so many stories of friends
because we have similar records.
- [Kat] I want them all to be loved and enjoyed
and played 'til they're so scratchy
you can't play them anymore.
- [Roz] I mean my records,
all my music is what I have absolute faith in.
I only have faith in a couple of things to that degree,
music is one of them, love is the other.
[vibrant horn music]
โช I'm getting closer to thinking that there's a way out โช
- Oh no, I had never thought about this.
I'm actually getting like teary-eyed.
What do I want to happen to my records?
Oh.
- If it's my own children, that's great,
maybe they'll listen to it
and they'll have memories of their mom.
But if they don't like it,
if they're not gonna listen to it,
if they're just gonna sit in a box
then I'd rather they sell them to a record store
and then have the records just sort of disperse out.
Spread out sort of like ashes to other people to listen to.
- Can I say, can I be buried with them?
I don't know.
- You know he asks me a lot
what I'm gonna do with the records if he dies.
That's a question that comes up about once a quarter.
And my answer changes,
but essentially is always like
Mick gets some special records,
your dad gets some special records
and I keep everything else.
- Having been someone
who listen to my parents' vinyl collection,
it would be really cool
to be able to pass the Fessler family love for music
down to the next generation.
- As long as it goes somewhere where it'll be loved,
that's all that matters.
- When I'm not here anymore,
my daughter has to have the records
and I want her to listen to them
and know that I am always there, I am always with her.
- No, I did think of that once and I thought,
you know what, I'm not gonna give 'em to my son.
The reason why is because I want him
to have his own experience with records and music.
- Well a famous book collector said,
something along the lines of,
"When I die, my collection should be broken up."
And people were like, "What are you talking,
that's amazing."
He's like, "The only way my collection was able to exist
was by other great collections also being split up."
- You gotta pay it forward,
so I hope that they end up in the used bins
or the new arrivals bins
at a high-quality record store near you
immediately after my demise.
โช I'm gettin' closer to thinking that there's a way out โช
[vibrant horn music continues]
โช I'm gettin' closer to thinking there's a way out. โช
[upbeat music]
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