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SOMBRE MUSIC
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CROWD CHEERS
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'Right, Des, it's John Motson here.'
'Yes, John.'
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'We have a lot of people hurt
here today.
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'I have to say,
from my position up here,
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'it would appear serious injuries.'
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'In my view,
the culprits of Hillsborough
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'were those yobs who turned up
just before the match
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'and tried to force their way in
and did force their way in.
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'They are responsible
for the deaths of innocent people.'
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'The charge has been made
that there has been a cover-up -
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'an attempt to pervert
the course of justice.'
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Hey, there's a few going in.
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I know, it looks quite busy.
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WILD APPLAUSE
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CHEERING
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Up the Labour!
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'We have been elected
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'as New Labour
and we will govern as New Labour.'
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There you go.
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New Labour, new inquests.
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Hey-hey! New Labour!
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'Because, as a party today,
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'we represent the whole
of this nation.'
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CHEERING
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ANNE: So the first thing to say is
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this is a judicial scrutiny.
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The New Labour government
has appointed a senior judge
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to look over all the evidence again
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and assess whether there are grounds
for new inquests.
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Well, we know there's grounds
for new inquests. Hang on, hang on!
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This is Labour we're talking about.
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Different mindset, don't you think?
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But we'll take nothing for granted,
OK?
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So, he's allocated three days
for the families.
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What? Three days?
DISCONTENTED MURMURS
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Doesn't sound like much.
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Each one, each family
gets an individual slot
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to make their presentation.
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What about this judge -
do we know any more?
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The Home Secretary has appointed
Sir Murray Stuart-Smith
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to review all evidence
that has not yet been presented
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at any of the previous inquests
or inquiries, so there's the rub.
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It has to be new evidence.
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Labour wants this looked at again.
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We just need to provide them
with the ammo.
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So let's get to it.
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We don't give Stuart-Smith any
choice but to order new inquests.
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You're right.
Yeah.
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Come on.
OK. Good.
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Dad?
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What's it like?
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Living on your own?
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It's...
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It's different.
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Don't you ever get lonely?
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At first, I did, yes.
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But I didn't think
it was going to last forever.
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I missed my little mophead,
didn't I, eh?
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And I still do.
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Why do you ask?
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Ever since high school,
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I've been Kevin's sister.
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I dunno, I...
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I just want to do something
for myself, you know? Just be me.
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Is that awful?
No, love. No.
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It's normal.
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Have you told your mother?
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No! It's like...
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she senses what's coming
every time I pluck up the courage.
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You're 18, love.
Nearly 18.
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So you can make your own decisions,
then, can't you?
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Hm?
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You are entitled to your own life,
darling.
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Sheila?
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Sorry I'm late. I got a bit lost.
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Are you all right?
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He's got his offices here?
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I did tell you,
Elkan's a bit different.
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Come on!
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Time to get you a new solicitor.
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Thanks.
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There you go.
Thank you.
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I've followed your case
since The Cook Report, now.
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And even then, your evidence
stood out as being so strong.
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I remember saying to my wife,
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"Let's see how they wriggle out
of this one."
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Elkan was the first lawyer to sue
the police after the Toxteth riots.
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Well, I don't know
if I was the first,
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but thanks, anyway.
There are similarities, though,
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aren't there, with our case?
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The police seem to think
they're unaccountable.
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We have to make them think again.
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There, I do agree.
Listen,
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whoever represents you
when you meet Stuart-Smith...
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I really do think the role
of the West Midlands Police
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needs to be looked at
much more closely.
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And, well, as it turns out,
their investigation
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wasn't quite as thorough
as it should have been.
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Well, I think...
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there's grounds for new inquests.
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ANNE MUTTERS TO HERSELF
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MUSIC: 'Seabird'
by The Alessi Brothers
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Too long
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Whoa, whoa, whoa -
don't stand on those!
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That's Kev's body file.
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His body file?
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What's in it?
Everything.
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Witness statements, photos,
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Kev's continuity chart
from the first inquest.
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You know,
all his movements on the day.
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Mum, I... They want everything new,
anything that wasn't seen
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at any of the previous inquiries.
Mum!
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Can I talk to you about something?
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Of course.
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I found a flat.
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Who for?
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You're moving out?
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Oh.
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Well, our Mike's still here,
you won't be on your own.
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Well, your dad won't be very happy.
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Oh, right.
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Oh, thanks, Steve.
Dad thinks it'll do me good.
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Yeah, well...
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You dad's right.
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You know, love. You just...
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You just do whatever you need to,
eh?
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Mum...
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Come on.
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I'm sorry, love.
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I'm not cross.
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I'm just not ready
to let you go yet!
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Come here!
Mum!
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Ohh...
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Go on, you.
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Go and find me Dr West's report,
will you?
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What?
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'Families of those who died
at Hillsborough have campaigned
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'for years for a fresh inquiry
into the disaster.
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'Meetings over the next three days
could be their best chance yet.
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'16 families will present
what they say is a compelling case
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'for a new inquiry
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'into the circumstances leading
to the Hillsborough disaster.'
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God, so many journalists.
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Morning.
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Pleased to meet you.
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Hiya, Sir Murray. Anne Williams.
Oh, dear, your hands are very cold.
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Well, I've had a very long wait,
Sir Murray.
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Do you have some of your people
here?
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Or are they like the Liverpool fans,
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they turn up at the last minute?
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Did you hear that?
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He serious?
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Well, sir, incomplete evidence
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would be the first thing
we'd want you to look at.
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Not just from PC Bruder
and WPC Martin,
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but from members
of the Ambulance Service,
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reputable pathologists...
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all of whom
had their evidence ignored,
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or misunderstood, too.
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Following on from this
is the coroner's decision
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to deem evidence after 3:15pm
irrelevant and inadmissible.
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We strenuously resist
the 3:15 cut-off, sir.
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It means evidence Kevin might
have been alive after that
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has not been properly considered.
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Dr West says Kevin died
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from damage to the airways
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providing oxygen to the lungs -
it's treatable.
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Treatable if the necessary
medical resources are available.
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We contend that Kevin could have
been saved, summary.
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So what Dr West is saying is
if a tracheotomy had been performed,
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it's possible that it might have
saved his life.
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Yes, and, sorry,
can I just point out
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that Dr Slater,
who did the postmortem,
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he put down Kevin's injuries
as chest injuries?
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That was on the Form 99.
Now, that was wrong.
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We wrote to the coroner
and pointed this out and, well...
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then, Dr Slater,
he then rectified his mistake.
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But I understand Dr Slater
hasn't changed his opinion
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of Kevin's cause of death?
Yes, sir, that's correct.
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But if he was wrong about that,
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then what else
could he be wrong about?
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If we can just look at
what happened after 3:15,
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then, you see, it throws up
a whole range of questions.
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I mean,
why wasn't there somebody there
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who could perform a tracheotomy?
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I mean,
why wasn't there more ambulances?
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And why is PC Bruder's evidence
not being given the credence...
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well, it so clearly deserves?
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The police heard
over 3,500 statements.
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And the coroner had to select
which witness to call,
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which witness to summarise...
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So the mere fact that
a witness came to light now
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whose evidence was not called,
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or was not summarised,
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does not seem to me to necessarily
give rise to the inference
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that it was improper.
It seems to me that...
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well, there's an argument
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that one should at least
follow the paper trail.
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All the evidence
should be investigated.
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I don't wish to jump to conclusions,
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Mrs Williams.
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It may be at the end of the day
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that I'm not able
to recommend fresh inquests.
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But,
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I might be able to ascertain
with a greater clarity...
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what happened to Kevin in the last
three quarters of an hour.
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Look, I KNOW what happened to Kevin.
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I have tracked EVERYBODY down.
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I have spoken to all those people.
You know, I have spent...
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hours and hours
with forensic pathologists...
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That might well be so.
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Please.
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Sir Murray, you know...
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this is all I have left now
of my son, his memories.
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Please. Look at him.
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HE CLEARS HIS THROAT
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Let me put my son to rest.
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Grant us a new inquest.
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You did brilliantly there.
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Um, you go on,
I'll catch you outside. OK.
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PC Bruder...
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Mrs Williams! Hello!
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Hiya!
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Well, I'm...
I'm so glad they called you in.
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They didn't.
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What?
Nobody got in touch.
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I read about it in the Echo
and wrote to the judge myself.
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Well, in that case,
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even more thanks.
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Here y'are...
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What's he like?
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Well, he's a bit scary at first,
but...
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he does listen. Just...
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Don't let him talk down to you.
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No, I won't.
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I'll just tell him the truth.
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Thank you.
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I mean it.
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I told you I would.
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I know, it's just... Well...
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It's not very often people do
what they say they're gonna do.
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PC Bruder?
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Yep.
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This way, please.
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Good luck.
Thanks.
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See ya.
See ya.
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HORN HONKS OUTSIDE
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I suppose I'd...
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..better...
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CAR DOOR CLOSES
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..or I'll never leave!
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I'm always here for you.
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Don't.
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Sara, are you ready?
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Yeah, one sec.
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Come on.
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You know, and...
263
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Well, your room's always there.
264
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I love you.
265
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I love you.
266
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Right.
Go on.
267
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DOOR CLOSES
268
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ENGINE STARTS
269
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CAR PULLS AWAY
270
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SNIFFLES
271
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HUSHED CONVERSATION
272
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Good afternoon.
273
00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,360
And may I simply start
by thanking you all
274
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for making the journey down
once more?
275
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Our objective in ordering
this extensive scrutiny
276
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was to assess the quality
277
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of any new evidence
278
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and whether that evidence
279
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is significant enough
to order new inquiries
280
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into the deaths of your loved ones.
281
00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,680
Lord Stuart-Smith
has presided over a prolonged
282
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and very diligent process.
283
00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,760
So I am genuinely sorry...
284
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GASPS
285
00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,000
..not to be able to give you
the outcome I know
286
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,200
you all so dearly hoped for.
287
00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,040
This has been a thorough
and impartial process,
288
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handled with great care.
289
00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,280
And as you are all well aware,
290
00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,200
the standard of evidence required
291
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,400
is significant.
292
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ANGRY EXCLAMATIONS
293
00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,280
You have my sympathies.
294
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ANGRY SHOUTS
295
00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,920
INAUDIBLE
296
00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,200
It's a stitch-up.
297
00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,560
Lip service from start to finish.
298
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,320
'Angry Hillsborough families
299
00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,320
'were told of Mr Straw's decision
in a private meeting
300
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,800
'with the Home Secretary,
301
00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,320
'and did not stay in the Commons
for his statement.
302
00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,360
'There was to be
no new public inquiry,
303
00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,680
'no new inquest, no new action
304
00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,360
'by the Director
of Public Prosecutions.'
305
00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,920
It's a sad day for the families,
306
00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,520
and we think it's an exceptionally
sad day for Britain.
307
00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,920
We say, New Labour, new cover-up.
308
00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,880
We asked for that.
309
00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,880
We've been way too passive
since Labour got in.
310
00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,640
We just sat there...
311
00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,400
..and expected justice
to take its course.
312
00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,040
Different party, same message.
313
00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,480
It's not just today,
it's everywhere.
314
00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,200
"Football fans are scum."
John...
315
00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,720
No, he's right, Teresa.
316
00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,200
It's how most people think.
317
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,840
There's a part of them
thinks we deserve this.
318
00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,480
Let's take this as our wake-up call.
319
00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,760
We need to embrace the survivors
320
00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,440
in the fight for justice.
321
00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,360
I think we need a brand-new start.
322
00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,040
When we get home,
323
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,000
we need to tap into the energy
and the anger
324
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,440
of all those people
who've got in touch over the years
325
00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,040
who were desperate to get involved.
326
00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,720
I mean it, now's the time.
327
00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,600
We need a new group.
328
00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,120
ON TV: 'I've never been any good
at telling people what to do.'
329
00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:28,360
'Don't be so wet -
just get on with it!
330
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,720
'Was that necessary?'
'Well...
331
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,640
'Girl would try the patience
of a saint.'
332
00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,440
Oh, good.
333
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,800
Got yourself something to eat.
334
00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,640
I've saved you some there.
335
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,080
I'm all right, love.
336
00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,440
I had a butty on the train.
337
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,280
I'm sorry, you know.
338
00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:58,480
Honestly, love...
339
00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:01,520
..I'm done with it.
340
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,200
I think.
341
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,080
I don't know.
342
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,960
I am this close
to packing it all in.
343
00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:20,800
Are you OK, love?
344
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,080
Yeah.
345
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,240
Yeah, I'm sound.
346
00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,240
Are you sure, love?
347
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,920
I've been so wrapped up
in all this...
348
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,400
Can't have been easy for you.
349
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,840
Oh, don't - pack it in, Mum.
350
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,200
I don't need to know
all the details,
351
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,920
and I REALLY don't want
to talk about it
352
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,600
day in and day out,
but I'm glad you're doing it.
353
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,840
I am.
354
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,760
I'm proud of you.
355
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,360
Mum!
356
00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:11,680
It's all set up.
357
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,040
Right!
358
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,280
Wow!
359
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,200
Go on, have a mess!
360
00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:31,600
KEYS TAP
361
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,040
And now, the good bit.
362
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,600
PRINTER WHIRS
363
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,120
Brilliant!
364
00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:53,160
So you can write as many letters
as you want now!
365
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,800
Who says I'm writing letters?
366
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,280
River!
367
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,640
DOG BARKS
368
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,400
Come on.
369
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,560
I was tired of it all.
370
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,480
I just wanted people to hear it,
you know?
371
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,320
All the evidence we found,
372
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,840
everything we'd been through -
373
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,440
so I put it all down in a book.
374
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,960
I've called it
When You Walk Through The Storm.
375
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,560
That's nice.
376
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,760
So, are you going to grace the new
group with your presence, madam?
377
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,880
I like the name,
Hillsborough Justice Campaign.
378
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,400
It's good, isn't it?
Yeah.
379
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,520
Gets right to the heart
of what we're about.
380
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,040
Like John said,
we needed a complete new start,
381
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,760
so that's what we've done.
382
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,280
It was always you who said get the
fans and survivors on board, Anne.
383
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,640
I know.
384
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,920
Come on!
385
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,160
Get involved again.
386
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,400
DOG BARKS
387
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,000
I'll think about it.
388
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,840
OK. I'll take that.
389
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,520
DOOR BELL
390
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,320
Can you sign here, please?
Yeah.
391
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,000
Thank you.
Ta.
392
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,520
SHE LAUGHS
393
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,120
Um, Sheila Coleman said
you might stock my book for me.
394
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,480
Right. Well, hello.
395
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,960
I'm Peter. Lovely day we're having,
pleased to meet you.
396
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,280
Sorry!
397
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,760
I'm Anne, Anne Williams.
398
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,320
And I lost my boy at Hillsborough,
Kevin - our Kev.
399
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,680
I know.
400
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,480
Well, I've written a book about him.
401
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,480
Well, it's about everything
that happened.
402
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,120
Of course we'll stock it for you,
it kind of goes without saying.
403
00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:54,600
Where else are you selling it?
404
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,240
Er... I don't know.
405
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,680
See, I've never done anything
like this before.
406
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,240
Well...
407
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,720
Come on.
KEYS JANGLE
408
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,160
Wha'?
409
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,400
I've got me van outside,
we'll go round all the book shops.
410
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,600
Have they had you
on Radio Merseyside yet?
411
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,320
No, no...
412
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,040
Oh, Jesus!
413
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,920
Well, I know a guy
that knows a guy...
414
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,120
that knows a guy
that knows some fella...
415
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,960
I bet you do!
I do!
416
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,400
Anyway, I hope you enjoy.
Thank you.
417
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,120
Nice to speak to you.
You too, bye.
418
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:33,200
And thanks!
419
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,160
They were very nice in there.
420
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,200
They said they'd give me a call
421
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,120
if they need any more books.
422
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,920
Are you OK?
423
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,040
You were there, weren't you?
424
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,440
Yeah.
425
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,920
HE SNIFFS
426
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,160
Me and my mate,
we went into Leppings Lane.
427
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520
And as soon as I went into
that tunnel, I wished I hadn't.
428
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,480
The weight of that crowd...
429
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,720
It turned me around.
430
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,640
I went in with my back to the pitch.
431
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,400
And it just got tighter...
432
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,560
..and tighter and tighter.
433
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,600
Do you know the thing
that gets me most,
434
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,400
even now, over and over?
435
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,960
Those coppers,
they were right there.
436
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,120
They were right there and they
could see what was happening.
437
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,200
And they just...
438
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,480
..stood there...
439
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,560
..and watched.
440
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,000
There was people at the front,
441
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,520
just-just in front of me,
442
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,080
and they were pressed
443
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,360
right up against the railings -
I mean, right up.
444
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,760
They were going purple.
445
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,520
So many of them were kids.
446
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,560
Did we mean so little to them?
447
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,760
Everyone thought that because
we got out, we were the lucky ones.
448
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,160
We got out, but we've got no voice.
449
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,360
But you do have a voice, Peter.
450
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,560
You know, my Kev...
451
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,000
he can't tell me what happened
in those last minutes...
452
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,360
..but YOU can.
453
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,520
And you have to.
454
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,840
INHALES DEEPLY
455
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,960
'David Duckenfield was the man
in command of policing Hillsborough.
456
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,360
'He was the man accused
by the victims' families
457
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,080
'of being responsible
for their deaths.
458
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,680
'Today, Duckenfield walked away
459
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,120
'from court -
the jury couldn't reach a verdict.
460
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,400
'The memories remain, too,
461
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,520
'for the families
of the Hillsborough victims.
462
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,800
'They travelled across to Leeds
from Liverpool every day
463
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,440
'to watch every minute
of the six-week trial.'
464
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,800
BUSY CHATTER
465
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,920
COINS RATTLE IN BUCKET
466
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,200
Thank you.
467
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,520
See ya later.
468
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,240
I do miss Steve, Teresa.
469
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,680
Course I do,
470
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,040
but, you know,
471
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,640
after a time, you do get used
to being on your own.
472
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,360
I actually quite like it.
473
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,480
I don't know
what I'd do with myself.
474
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,280
And I certainly don't know
what he'd do.
475
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,760
All right, mate?
All right, mate.
476
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,520
Can I help you, love?
477
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,640
Do you...?
478
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,960
Do you want to talk to somebody?
479
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,520
Come and sit down.
480
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,000
What's your name?
481
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,480
Colin.
Hiya, Colin.
482
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,760
I'm Anne.
483
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,040
You all right?
484
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Yeah.
485
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,480
There you go, love.
486
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,680
Ta.
487
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,560
So, are you going to the match?
488
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,880
Er, yeah.
489
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,440
Did you lose someone, Colin?
490
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,680
At Hillsborough?
491
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,360
Well, not on the day, you know?
492
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,200
Not in the ground.
493
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,320
He was me best mate.
494
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,920
He, um...
495
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,080
He never really got over it,
you know?
496
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Some of the things he'd seen...
497
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,760
that day.
498
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,520
He could...
He couldn't live with it, you know?
499
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,280
HE SOBS
500
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,320
Hey.
501
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,080
I'm sorry, I just miss him so much.
502
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,960
Hey, it's all right.
503
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,040
Come and sit down, will you?
504
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,840
Have you got any Cornettos?
505
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,680
Cornettos?
You're just about to have your tea!
506
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,600
Just fancy a nice mint Cornetto.
507
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,440
You're not pregnant, are you?
508
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,080
FREEZER DOOR SHUTS
509
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,040
PUTS DISHES DOWN
510
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,680
Oh, my God.
511
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,120
You are, aren't you?
512
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,840
Sara, you've just turned 20!
513
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,760
Same age as you were
when you had our Mike.
514
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Well, that was then!
515
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,440
How do you feel about it?
516
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,120
A bit scared, like,
517
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,000
but it's brilliant, I'm made up!
518
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,360
Come here!
519
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,960
So am I!
520
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Right.
521
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,280
Well, that's made my mind up, then.
522
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,880
What has? About what?
523
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,960
You can't stay in that little flat,
can you?
524
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,680
You're going to have to
move in here.
525
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,240
Well, there's no room in here.
526
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Well, there will be when I move out.
527
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,120
Look, I have been thinking about it
for a while.
528
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,400
No, Mum. No.
529
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,640
Yes, Mum.
530
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Yes.
531
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,840
I want you to.
532
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,880
'Are you sure you're gonna be OK?'
533
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,480
Will you behave?
534
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Well, erm...
535
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,560
See you later, then, yeah?
Yeah.
536
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,760
See you, love.
537
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,200
DOOR CLOSES
538
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Mum!
539
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,160
'It's all down to this...'
540
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,400
CROWD ROARS
541
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,520
'Shevchenko...
542
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,480
'Ohhhhh!
543
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,600
'Liverpool! They've done it!
544
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,360
'In the most dramatic fashion
ever seen!
545
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,840
'And the European Cup
is coming back to Anfield!'
546
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160
CROWD ROARS
547
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,160
Hiya! You all right?
548
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,840
Ooh! Thank you.
549
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,720
Cheers, thanks.
550
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,880
'So, look,'
551
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,440
the last thing any of us wants
552
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,000
is to unfairly raise
your expectations,
553
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,480
but we're quite excited by this case
554
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320
that's just come through
the European Court of Human Rights.
555
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,640
With respect, Elkan,
the court rejected
556
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600
the Family Support Group's
private prosecutions.
557
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,360
So why is Europe gonna care?
558
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,080
Hear him out, Anne,
he's on our side.
559
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,720
It's fine, she's right.
560
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,120
Who knows if it will, but it could
be worth us looking very closely
561
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,960
at this updated Article 2 -
the right to life.
562
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Now, look,
563
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440
our argument would be that Kevin
564
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,800
was essentially in the hands
of the state when he died,
565
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,840
so the state has a duty of care
to properly investigate his death.
566
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,000
And if we can show that
that has not, so far,
567
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,520
been the case, then...
568
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560
there's a possible route
to a new inquest.
569
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,000
You think?
Look, it's gonna take time.
570
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320
Let's be in no doubt about that.
571
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,040
I mean,
before we even get to Europe,
572
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,520
we've got to resubmit
with the UK Attorney-General.
573
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,480
What about the other families?
I mean...
574
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,240
Well, they want justice, too.
575
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,640
I know what you're saying,
but, look...
576
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,560
there hasn't been
a significant breakthrough
577
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,960
for quite some time now,
578
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,440
and a successful new submission
will, of course, benefit everyone.
579
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,520
If we can get Kevin through Europe,
580
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,160
it'll...
581
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,600
It'll open things up for everyone.
582
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,760
Let me think about it.
583
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,720
So, that's where I stand.
584
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,880
The legal team have
made it crystal clear
585
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400
that this is basically a test case,
586
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,640
and it is just Kev at this point.
587
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,880
Tell us something new.
588
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,720
It's always just Kev with you,
isn't it?
589
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,200
You do know that "all for one"
doesn't necessarily mean
590
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,960
all for "one", don't you?
591
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,120
That's not fair.
Come on, let's keep this decent.
592
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,920
No, no, look, he's got a point.
593
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,480
Maybe it is about Kev for me.
594
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,160
But then, I am Kev's mum.
595
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,560
If I can get Kevin through,
596
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,640
then everyone else
gets through, too.
597
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,760
"Our Kev" first, though, eh?
598
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,120
There's no need for that.
599
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,840
We should just support Anne
come what may.
600
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,680
Surely, anything that keeps people
talking about Hillsborough
601
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,400
and keeps us in the spotlight
can only be a good thing?
602
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,600
No.
It's a basic matter of principle.
603
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,360
Come on. This is who we are.
604
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,800
The collective, not the individual.
605
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,400
You know what?
I didn't expect a round of applause.
606
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,600
But I did hope
most of you would understand.
607
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,280
Comments like that don't help,
do they?
608
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,720
I'm trying to keep it in the group.
609
00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:20,640
Listen, let's have a little
five-minute break. Cool it down.
610
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440
Come back in five minutes, have a
cup of tea and talk about it, yeah?
611
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,800
Anne!
612
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120
They will support you, you know?
613
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,320
There's always one or two
needs to let off steam,
614
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,400
but we will always support you,
you know that.
615
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,840
Look, I feel like
I'm always battling.
616
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,600
I do not want to be
put in a position
617
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,040
where I have to justify
how I feel about my boy.
618
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,440
I'm going it alone.
619
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,240
Me and Kev, I'm done with it.
620
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,120
Hiya, love.
621
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,040
There we go.
622
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:13,120
I brought you a hardy perennial.
Just like your mum!
623
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,840
You know, Kev...
624
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,040
..it's been 20 years.
625
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,320
I can't believe it.
626
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,320
I miss you so much.
627
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,480
There's not a day goes by
that I don't think of you.
628
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,880
KISSES HAND
629
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,920
I love you.
630
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,160
Right, let's get this planted,
shall we?
631
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,840
Cos it's freezin'!
632
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,240
DOOR HANDLE RATTLES
633
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,840
Come on, then.
634
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,320
Give it to me straight.
635
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,480
It's a no from Europe.
636
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Why?
637
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,440
Out of time.
638
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,360
Out of time?!
639
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,600
I'm so sorry.
640
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,360
Ha!
641
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,400
They've said we should've
put our application in
642
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,800
within six months
of the Stuart-Smith verdict.
643
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,400
Four years, for this?
644
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,480
I'm sorry, Anne.
645
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,760
God knows how you must feel.
646
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,000
Hm.
647
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,520
You know,
648
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,320
I'm waiting for you to go,
"April Fool!"
649
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,520
Wow.
650
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,160
20 years.
651
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,120
Yeah, well, you know what?
652
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,760
Maybe I am the fool for keeping on.
653
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,080
Hm.
654
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,000
'There's gonna be a documentary
to mark the 20th anniversary, Anne.
655
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,360
'We've got an incredibly moving
interview with Jenni Hicks,'
656
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,400
talking about the ride back
from Hillsborough on the day,
657
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,000
and that's the theme
I want to expand on.
658
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000
The mother's journey.
659
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,560
And I just wondered...
660
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,040
..whether you might go back with me?
661
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,320
To Hillsborough?
662
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Oh, Christian, that's a no.
663
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:39,760
You do know I've never actually
been inside the ground?
664
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,000
I realise it's gonna be hard,
Anne, but it has to be -
665
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,640
for the full impact
to land with our listeners.
666
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,320
It's the 20th anniversary.
667
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,480
20 years, still no justice.
668
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,480
We have to make our listeners
understand that.
669
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,480
We have to make 'em feel
what you feel.
670
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,040
Well, then...
671
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,160
..I think I need
to take someone with me.
672
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,600
You know, someone who was
actually there in the pens.
673
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,720
Someone who can tell your listeners
what it was really like.
674
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,480
One-two, one-two-three, one-two.
675
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,280
Anne, you never actually wanted
to set foot
676
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,840
inside this football stadium,
did you?
677
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,240
No...
678
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:44,480
Well, a lot of the families did
come back in the beginning, and...
679
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,800
well, I did want to go
inside the ground, but...
680
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,560
I suppose at the time, I was...
Well, I was just too ill, you know?
681
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,000
Steve, what's going through
your head, as you stand here now?
682
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,440
20 years on, what do you remember?
683
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,040
I dunno.
684
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,320
It's scary.
685
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,120
I remember, erm...
686
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,120
coming through the turnstiles...
687
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,760
I was waiting for me mate.
688
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,600
And that's... That's where they
opened the gates, the exit gates.
689
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:21,520
I saw two policemen walk over
690
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,480
and order the steward to open them.
691
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,640
Big, blue concertina gates.
692
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,880
They claimed the fans
kicked them in,
693
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,800
but someone tell me how you break
down a metal gate like that?
694
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,440
And is this... eventually where
you went in, onto the terrace?
695
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Yeah.
696
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,200
HE EXHALES
697
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,240
That's the tunnel.
698
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,080
That's it.
699
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,720
EXHALES DEEPLY
Look at it.
700
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,040
Look how wide it is - it's nothing.
701
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,640
You know, what's it going to take -
six, eight stewards to close it off?
702
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,400
That's all that needed to happen.
703
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,920
If you're opening the gate,
you block off the tunnel first.
704
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,320
20 years, and still no-one's holding
their hand up to that blunder.
705
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,360
HE EXHALES
706
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,720
I'm sorry, I can't.
707
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,640
Steve...
708
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,760
Kevin was pulled from Pen 3...
709
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,080
at 28 minutes past three.
710
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:54,080
Can I just ask, Steve,
711
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,680
where did you first see Kevin?
712
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,640
He was there.
713
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,200
He was just there.
714
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,000
HE CRIES
715
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,960
That's... That's where everyone
was getting pulled up.
716
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,040
All our fans were on the upper tier,
and they were just leaning down
717
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,080
and they were just grabbing anyone
that they could.
718
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,920
Why Kevin?
719
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Why was he one of the first people
that you helped?
720
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,840
Well...
721
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,160
It wasn't just me,
722
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,560
there were a few of us...
723
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,360
We seen him,
we went straight to him.
724
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,760
Cos, well...
725
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,640
he was alive.
726
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,560
He was on the hoarding.
727
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,840
So me, Tony O'Keefe and the others
728
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,760
picked him up and we ran him
to the far corner -
729
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,760
that's where all the people were
getting seen to.
730
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,600
HE EXHALES DEEPLY
731
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,320
I thought... We all thought...
732
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,640
"He's in good hands now.
733
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,360
"He'll get looked after."
734
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,480
Thank you.
735
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,240
You know, looking here now,
there's, what...
736
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,120
400 seats?
737
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,840
And over 2,000 were led in here
like cattle.
738
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,800
And then we're left
to live with the lies.
739
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,880
You know who's standing here now?
740
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,440
I can feel Kev's spirit!
741
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,520
And it has brought the fight back
in me.
742
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,480
'So just a couple of last links,
if that's OK?'
743
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Anne Williams has recently set up
a new group, Hope For Hillsborough.
744
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,080
Can you tell us a bit about that,
Anne?
745
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,360
I just felt there was a need
for something more...
746
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,960
intimate, if you like.
747
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,440
You know,
with the 20th anniversary coming up,
748
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,640
what's great is there's
this new, younger element,
749
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,120
who are as determined to fight
for truth and justice as I am.
750
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,480
And we just heard
that Andy Burnham MP
751
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,360
is going to be addressing
the 20th anniversary
752
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,880
on behalf of the Government.
753
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,200
Do you think
this Labour administration
754
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,600
is going to give you
and the other families
755
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560
the justice that you've been
fighting for, for all these years?
756
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,360
Andy Burnham's a politician!
757
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,600
He'll come up to Anfield,
deliver his soundbite,
758
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,360
and then he'll piss off
back to London!
759
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,440
You're not going away, are you?
760
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,560
Only in a box.
761
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,480
CHURCH BELL TOLLS
762
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,760
'On this, the 20th anniversary
763
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,880
'of the tragedy at Hillsborough,
764
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,560
'which broke the heart, but not
the spirit of our community...
765
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,040
'..never walking alone
without a memory of those we miss,
766
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
'without a prayer
that God would bless those
767
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,960
'whom we love,
but no longer touch...'
768
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,520
We've got to get our skates on,
here.
769
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,120
The stewards are saying they're
going to be closing the Kop soon.
770
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,160
Closing it, why?
771
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,720
It's completely chocker, girl -
there's thousands here.
772
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:29,800
They're opening up the whole ground.
773
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,800
CHOIR SING: 'Abide With Me'
774
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,800
775
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,560
776
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:46,200
777
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,560
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
778
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,560
And I'd like to now
just introduce you
779
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,840
to the Right Honourable
Andy Burnham,
780
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,080
Secretary of State for Culture,
Media and Sport.
781
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,720
APPLAUSE
782
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,360
Remembering any loss of life
in this scale is painful.
783
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,760
It is harder when a tragedy
was no natural disaster,
784
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,960
but entirely man-made,
785
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,360
when it involved
so many young people...
786
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,240
..and when those who have lost most
787
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:39,720
have suffered
so many more dark days ever since.
788
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,880
Hillsborough left deep wounds
that will never heal -
789
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,000
its horror not diminished
by the passage of time...
790
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,600
the TV images
still harrowing to watch.
791
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,680
Well, today, as the Prime Minister
has asked me to convey,
792
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,880
we can at least pledge
793
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,560
that 96 fellow football supporters
who died...
794
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,400
..will never be forgotten.
795
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,800
MAN: What about justice?
796
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,960
SECOND MAN: What about justice?
What about justice?
797
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,520
And he asked us to think
at this time...
798
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,320
MAN: Justice!
WOMAN: Justice!
799
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,560
What about justice?
800
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,160
Justice!
Justice!
801
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,920
MORE JOIN IN
802
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,160
CROWD CHANT: Justice! Justice!
803
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,400
CHANTING: Justice... for the 96...
804
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,720
Justice...
805
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,720
for the 96!
806
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,160
TO THE TUNE OF 'GO WEST':
807
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,640
808
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,800
809
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,520
810
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,960
811
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,240
812
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,480
813
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,520
814
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,480
815
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,440
816
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,760
817
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,720
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