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POLICE OPERATOR:
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MAN:
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VOICE BREAKS:
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TO CHILD:
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Ruby Franke was made in a factory
to be a mommy vlogger,
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and she posted these videos
that were incredibly popular.
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OK, you guys,
it is back-to-school season.
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There is this candid nature
to some of her videos
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that led to her having
such a large following.
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To have over two million subscribers
on YouTube,
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that's astronomical success.
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Viewers began to pick up on
some of Ruby's parenting techniques.
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Nothing is off-limits.
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OK, so we're here
at Lindquist's Mortuary.
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KNOCKING
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Police officers! Open up!
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It just became darker
and darker and darker.
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Many people believed
that she was in a cult.
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In my 26 years of law enforcement,
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I haven't seen
anything worse than this.
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Police Department.
To the left, to the left.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
FEMALE OFFICER: Police Department!
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Make yourself known.
MALE OFFICER: Go right.
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FEMALE DETECTIVE:
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This is beyond anything we thought
this woman would do to her children.
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NARRATOR: It's mid-morning
in an affluent suburb
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in southern Utah.
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SHARP KNOCK AT DOOR
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A wounded and malnourished boy
has been rushed to hospital.
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Police officers. Open up!
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Law enforcement
have been led to the home
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of therapist Jodi Hildebrandt,
where the boy's mother was staying.
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On that afternoon, Sergeant McCoy
received a phone call
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from the Ivins Police Department
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and had learned some very disturbing
details about Ruby Franke...
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Hey. You OK?
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It's just you in here?
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..that there was a child,
very emaciated,
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and it appeared that
she'd been confined in the home.
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I'm Sergeant Tobler. Are you OK?
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Also,
there's some type of panic room.
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The children had been confined,
abused, malnourished, neglected.
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It caused us great concern.
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There were two other siblings
unaccounted for.
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OFFICER: OK. Just place your hands
behind your back for me.
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We dedicate all of our personnel
that day
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to trying to locate the children.
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In police work, sometimes
you always hope for the best,
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but expect the worst.
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They could potentially
have been dead.
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But how did such a horrifying
series of events come to pass
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to a seemingly idyllic
all-American family?
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Springville City
is an awesome city in Utah.
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It is a population
of about 36,000 people.
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We're right at the foot
of the mountains.
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We have a nearby canyon,
a creek running through town.
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It's just a great place to live
and to work and to raise a family.
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It's a very close-knit community.
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There's a lot of people
who have been here
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for many generations.
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In our neighbourhoods here,
most everyone is the same religion
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and we all go to church together.
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The predominant religion in Utah's
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The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints,
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which is known by most people
as the Mormon religion.
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And there are a lot of people
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who use their kind of...
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tie in their faith
with parenting advice.
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One such parent,
living happily in Springville,
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was 33-year-old Ruby Franke.
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She came from a Mormon background.
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She had three sisters
and one brother.
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Ruby was married to Kevin,
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and the pair met back when
Ruby was 18 and Kevin was 21.
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Pretty quickly after the pair met,
they got married.
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Ruby said all she ever wanted to do
was be a stay-at-home mum
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and have lots of babies.
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And actually, she and Kevin went on
to have six children together.
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CHILDREN CHEERILY: Goodbye!
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With six children
under the age of 12...
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RUBY: I love you.
..and a strict religious background,
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Ruby was a busy and hands-on mum.
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RUBY: Be good. Be kind to people.
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Ruby began documenting
her hectic family life
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and posting videos online.
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KEVIN: What are we doing?
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What is this?
CHILD 1: It's a videotape.
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CHILD 2: It's a cake, and inside
is the colour of the baby.
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OVERLAPPING CHATTER
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The first video that they actually
posted to the channel
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and the way
they introduce themselves
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was through the gender reveal
of their youngest child.
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And this is such an intimate moment.
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RUBY: So we're gonna find out
if it's pink or if it's blue.
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CHILDREN SQUEAL
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But Ruby and her family decided
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that this was how they were
going to launch themselves
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into the social media atmosphere.
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Ruby was following a popular,
new online trend - family vlogging.
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Oh, we thought for sure
it was a boy.
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KEVIN: Staring at it
won't make it turn blue, pal.
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Family channels, you know,
started to pop up around,
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I would say, the mid-2010s.
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There were lots of people
that were coming out
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sharing their family's lives
day to day
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with strangers on the internet
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and amassing these huge gatherings
of followers because of them.
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OK, so the kids are on the bus,
the kids are in school,
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and I am ready to just...
SIGHS DRAMATICALLY
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..sit down...
EXHALES
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..take a breather.
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Ruby continued posting videos
of her family
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across several
social media platforms
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under the name 8Passengers.
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The image portrayed
was idyllic -
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a large, happy family
living in Western American suburbia.
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Hi, guys, I'm Kevin.
I'm Ruby.
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We're the drivers of the
eight passengers. We're Mom and Dad.
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We thought it'd be fun to just
say hi and introduce our family.
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And if you're not good, I will turn
this car around and we will go home.
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Seriously.
Behave.
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She was this beautiful woman.
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She had a beautiful home.
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She has six, you know,
gorgeous children and a husband.
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THEY SING: Happy birthday to you.
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Ruby would have the camera rolling
for every family milestone.
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'They're smiling, they're happy,
they're healthy, they're fit.'
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The image that they put out to the
world was one of almost perfection.
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Oh, my word. Seriously?
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TOT GIGGLES
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We have hit 5,000 subscribers,
and I am beyond excited.
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Daddy, look!
I did a ponytail by myself.
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It's a real sort of, I guess,
a fly-on-the-wall documentary
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around what it's like
within their family.
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And nothing, nothing is off limits.
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OK, so we're here
at Lindquist Mortuary
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for Kevin's grandma.
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Yep.
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She really opened up
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and showed every aspect
of their lives together.
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And the kids
were in almost every video.
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CHILD CRYING: I want my bow...
I want my bow tie.
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RUBY: Go get...
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I know, you want your bow tie
and I can't find it anywhere.
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In less than a year,
Ruby had uploaded
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over 120 videos of her family
to the internet.
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There was something
very approachable about them,
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something that a lot of people
could relate to.
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At its peak,
the 8Passengers YouTube channel
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had around 2.5 million subscribers,
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and with that, came all the
advertising and sponsorship deals,
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which would then
bring in income for the family.
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Ruby and her family
have been catapulted
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into a new-found level of fame,
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with her parenting style
on full display.
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You cannot
just get into the cupboard
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and take yoghurt...
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and crackers.
CHILD MUMBLES
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You can't come in the kitchen
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and take whatever you want,
whenever you want.
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Ruby was a real disciplinarian,
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and she was not afraid
to show that on her channel.
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And when the camera's
always rolling,
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people are going to have remarks
on the things that you share.
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There's no sort of consideration
of the children's ages,
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or even any aspect about consent
and gaining their permission.
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It's almost as if she's cultivating
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the star-of-the-show persona
and everybody else,
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her children and her husband
included, are simply extras.
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They're props.
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Despite some comments online
over her strict parenting,
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Ruby Franke's popularity
continued to skyrocket
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for the next three years,
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eventually accumulating
over three million followers
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and over a billion views.
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As time went on, some of her viewers
began to pick up on
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some of Ruby's parenting techniques.
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One of those videos in particular
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revolved around
one of her younger sons.
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He lost one of his socks and so she
made him go outside and look for it.
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RUBY: Put 'em in your pocket so
you can take 'em down to the hamper
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and drop and give me ten.
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CHILD: One...
RUBY: Put your hand straight out.
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They're in.
They're not supposed to be out.
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Shape your hands forward.
There you go.
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In another video, Ruby reprimanded
her younger daughter
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for going round
and cutting up things in the house.
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RUBY: If you cut...
one more thing in my house...
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NERVOUS LAUGHTER
..I'm going to take the scissors...
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Look at me.
..and I'm gonna cut its head off.
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OLDER CHILD:
Grandma will be so mad.
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LITTLE GIRL CRIES
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So what are you gonna do?
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Threatening to destroy something so
sentimental to one of your children
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really quite often goes against
the nature of many mothers.
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But there's also an element
of it being disturbing in that
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Ruby's decided that
throughout this moment,
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she sees it as an opportunity
to film.
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She sees it as an opportunity
to make content.
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Are you gonna cut anything else?
TODDLER: No.
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You promise?
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Many of Ruby's followers
were starting to grow concerned.
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Her videos caught the attention
of online influencer Kendra Bryan.
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Ruby Franke's story
really gripped me,
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because I saw a woman
exploiting her children for money,
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and did the children benefit
from any of it? No.
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Not... Children didn't benefit
anything from that,
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and that's pretty terrifying.
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I've noticed
that you've been hiding from me,
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and you are feeling
a lot of embarrassment and shame.
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You're treating them like
they're a piece of property.
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LITTLE BOY:
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OK. So I hear you.
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That sounds
like a lot to be taken away.
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That sounds like
it's gonna be a miserable summer.
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But the sinister reality
was far worse than anyone imagined.
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I just knew in my gut,
"Oh, this is gonna be bad."
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You weren't responsible.
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You were lying
and being manipulative with them.
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And unfortunately, it was.
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NARRATOR: Four years on
from posting her very first video,
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Ruby Franke's online stardom
has made the family over $2 million,
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thanks to the views and sponsorships
through their YouTube channel.
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So how does an admired influencer
go from picture-perfect family life
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to serving a possible
30-year prison sentence
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for horrific child abuse?
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As other YouTubers and influencers
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began to take notice,
and their viewers
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began to pour into Ruby's channel,
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that's when we started to see
the relationship between Ruby
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and her audience sour.
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We started to see that friction
between the commenters, the viewers,
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and Ruby and her parenting style.
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After experiencing behavioural
issues with their teenage son,
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Ruby and Kevin
sought professional help
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from local therapist,
Jodi Hildebrandt.
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Jodi Hildebrandt
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was a licensed counsellor
in the state of Utah,
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and she was actually the founder
of this programme called Connexions.
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Welcome to Connexions.
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I'm Jodi Hildebrandt.
So glad you're with us.
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Connexions was a therapy
organisation that Jodi had set up,
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and according to her website,
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she was there to offer counselling
to couples, families, individuals.
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If you're like me,
you've had pain in your life.
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It could be from a divorce,
work conflicts,
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relationship issues with children,
grandchildren, spouse.
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Connexions is the solution.
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Jodi Hildebrandt's company,
Connexions,
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was a multifaceted life coaching
business, and it was successful.
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Jodi was estimated
to be worth over $4 million.
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She worked with hundreds of clients
across Utah,
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charging up to $200 an hour.
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So I was introduced to
Jodi Hildebrandt by a family friend.
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I met with her, did some
one-on-one sessions with her.
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And honestly,
I have to tell you, like,
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I was quite impressed
with what she had to say.
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She kinda just learned about
my background, my upbringing,
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and, um, I actually enjoyed it.
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Ruby's son began taking part
in therapy sessions with Jodi.
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I had a phone call yesterday
with my therapist,
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and she taught me about
truth and distortion.
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Mom probably talks about Jodi
all the time, but...
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I've mentioned Jodi a few times.
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She has a podcast called Connexions
- with an X.
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But there was more to Jodi
than met the eye.
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She'd at one time had
her licence suspended as a therapist
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for revealing information
to members of the church
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without her patients' consent.
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Ruby was undeterred,
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and soon Jodi became Kevin
and Ruby's marriage counsellor.
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Then, controversially,
Jodi moved into the family home.
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Jodi and Ruby
were growing closer and closer.
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They were spending
more and more time together
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and their lives
were becoming more intertwined.
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And it was at this time that things
really began to go from weird
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to downright bizarre.
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Once Jodi entered the picture,
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things really escalated
on Ruby's channel.
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Still posting several videos a week,
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Ruby's behaviour
became even more unsettling.
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She shared in a video
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that she had received a call
from her daughter's teacher
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informing her that her six-year-old
had no lunch with her that day.
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I know that her teacher is
uncomfortable with her being hungry
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and not having a lunch,
and it would ease her discomfort
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if I came to the school with lunch.
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Um, but I responded and just said...
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..was responsible for making
her lunches in the morning.
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So the natural outcome is she's just
going to need to be hungry.
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And hopefully, hopefully,
nobody gives her food
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and nobody steps in
and gives her a lunch.
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Ruby was punishing
a six-year-old child
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for not making their own lunch
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and letting her starve
in order to teach her a lesson.
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Unless you find a friend
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who's willing to share some of
their food with you, I don't...
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I don't think
you're gonna be able to eat.
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But if you're not responsible
for your lunch and your lunch money,
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that's the natural consequence.
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And I'm really sorry
you're learning this the hard way.
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This made people's stomach turn.
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In another clip posted by Ruby,
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it was revealed that her teenage son
had been banned from his bedroom
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after playing a prank
on his brother.
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He was made to sleep on a beanbag.
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My bedroom was taken away
for seven months
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and then you give it back, like,
a couple of weeks ago.
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I don't think our viewers know that.
JODI: Sleeping on a beanbag.
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I've been sleeping on a beanbag
since October.
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This video sparked outrage.
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It just blew up online.
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A week after that beanbag video
went up,
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a Change.org petition was started
by people who had seen the video
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and seen Ruby's behaviour,
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that gathered almost
20,000 signatures.
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A friend of Ruby and Kevin's
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witnessed their behaviour
first-hand.
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She's appearing anonymously
in order to protect her identity.
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'She was a strict mother.'
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She did have some ways
of handling the children
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that people did disagree with.
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The two youngest are showing
long patterns of selfishness.
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They have been showing, um,
through their choices,
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their unwillingness to repent.
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She was getting a lot
of very hateful, negative comments,
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and I do remember
her mentioning that
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sponsors were beginning to pull out,
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and it did take a dark turn.
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The online criticism against Ruby
had escalated to the point
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that it caught the attention
of local police.
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I am Lance Haight, the chief
of police in Springville, Utah.
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Concerns had been raised
in social media about Ruby Franke
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and her parenting style.
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And we were aware
of some of those concerns,
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but we looked into them
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and there was no evidence
of criminal conduct at that time.
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Ruby Franke is withholding
privileges from a child,
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but otherwise, all of their
physical needs are being met
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and they're
not being physically abused,
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then that would not constitute
child abuse.
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And so we're unable
to take enforcement action.
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After years of crafting the image
of a perfect family,
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Ruby and Kevin hit back at those
openly criticising them.
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The things that we show and share,
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and the things that many of you
are criticising and calling abusive,
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are actually things
that mental health professionals
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have counselled us to do.
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Both Ruby and Kevin really
kind of take an adversarial stance
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to some of the criticism
that they were getting.
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Clearly, they were, you know,
impacted by this controversy
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and the criticism,
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and it starts to seep its way into
their content that they're making.
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In an attempt
to silence the critics,
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Ruby and Kevin disabled comments
on their social media channels
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and hired a lawyer to send
cease and desist letters to vloggers
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who were making content about them.
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Ruby Franke appeared to be able
to continue to act with impunity
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on the internet,
and the great irony of it all
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is she was still giving
parenting advice
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to other parents on the internet.
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Although still in the spotlight,
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Ruby's star power
was beginning to wane
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under the weight
of immense public scrutiny.
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And internet sleuths,
hooked on the story,
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had noticed
another concerning detail.
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NARRATOR: In January 2022,
Ruby Franke posted an intimate video
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of her youngest daughter's baptism
on the 8Passengers YouTube page.
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Good morning, Passengers.
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How are you guys today?
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Today's vlog is a big one.
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ALL: # We have been taught
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# And we understand
That we must do as the Lord... #
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Then, the channel goes silent.
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After that last video was uploaded
in January 2022,
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things went quiet,
there was nothing new.
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The channel went dark,
Ruby went dark.
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There was no content posted
of the kids online.
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There is this thought that maybe
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she had taken the criticism
to heart...
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..and had stopped posting videos.
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People began to wonder
if the petitions had finally worked.
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They began to wonder if their
complaints had gotten through
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to law enforcement.
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And there was the sense online,
was this the end of Ruby Franke?
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But four months later,
Ruby was back.
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And this time, on a new platform,
and with a new partner.
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Turns out that
she had actually gone into business
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with Jodi Hildebrandt
in Connexions.
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Hello, and welcome to Connexions.
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I'm Jodi Hildebrandt.
And I'm Ruby Franke.
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Ruby Franke
had joined Connexions Classroom,
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the life coaching business
of Jodi Hildebrandt.
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They did YouTube videos.
They had a podcast.
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They would go to talks.
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She was no longer
the girl-next-door mummy blogger
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in her sun dresses and cardigans,
but she appeared more business-like.
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And actually, at this point,
she had rebranded herself
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as a mental fitness instructor
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and seemed to really be going
for this whole life coach look.
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This is my passion,
is to invite you to stand in truth
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and put your opinions to the side
for a minute,
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because your kids
are the target of distortion.
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And they were giving advice to moms,
specifically Latter-day Saint moms,
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who were struggling
with their relationships
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and struggling
with how to discipline their kid
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and approach their husband.
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We need you. We love you.
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We know what power exists
inside you.
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And we want you to be here.
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So, please, humble yourself.
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Become curious
about what we're saying.
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Now, not only was Jodi
living with the Franke family,
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but she was creating content
with Ruby.
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After originally being hired
as a therapist for Ruby's son,
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the two women
were growing ever closer.
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Jodi Hildebrandt, I think gave, um,
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this level of legitimacy
to Ruby Franke.
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And she had the credentials.
She had a master's degree.
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Ruby was bad on her own,
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but Jodi came with this toolbox
of experience as a therapist.
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As a therapist, but also just
kind of an expert at mind games.
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People who had seen her
on 8Passengers
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moved over to Connexions
and became wildly concerned
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about the sort of advice
she was offering to parents.
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JODI: Do children
have a right to privacy? No.
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Everything in their life
is open to you. Everything.
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Um, journals.
Um, they're, you know,
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if... if you've graciously given
them a room, that room is yours.
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It's not theirs.
Your drawers.
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Everything is up to investigation
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whenever you wanna
go and investigate.
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They were deeply concerned about the
way she discussed evil in children.
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Ruby Franke
had not just changed channels,
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she had amplified and accentuated
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the extremeness
of her parenting techniques.
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If your kid came to you on fire,
would you say,
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"But if I put out the fire,
that's gonna really hurt
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"and you're gonna end up with scabs
anyway,
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"so I'm just gonna love you
where you are right now"?
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No! You throw them on the ground
and you start rolling them.
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And they're gonna say,
"You're hurting me.
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"You're beating me,
you're controlling."
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It's like, "No, dear, hold still.
I'm getting the fire out."
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Many lay the blame
for Ruby's darker attitude
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squarely at the feet of Jodi.
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I think Jodi,
for a long period of time,
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has been very clever and very crafty
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and twisted things
in a very dark way.
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I think Ruby
slowly started to subscribe to that
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after exposure to Jodi.
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As criticism of the
Connexions platform was mounting,
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more unsettling revelations about
Jodi Hildebrandt came to light.
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As people began to dig
into Jodi Hildebrandt's past,
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what they found
was deeply concerning.
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The more Jodi Hildebrandt
and Ruby Franke
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were in the public eye,
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the more criticism
started to kind of surface,
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especially
with former clients of hers.
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So, I personally saw Jodi
for about...
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..roughly for a year,
maybe a little bit more.
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There was one specific group meeting
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that she said something that
was just absolutely out of line.
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She outed a very close friend
of mine
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that hadn't come out as gay,
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and she outed him
in front of a group setting.
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It just about destroyed him.
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And I stood up,
it was in a men's group,
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and I said, "This is off.
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"There is something inside of you
that is evil. It's heartbreaking."
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JODI: 'Men and men can marry
and women and women.
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'When that law was passed,'
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it opened the floodgate
for every other devious, vile,
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um...
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..sexually permissive
and destructive behaviours
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to be engaged upon.
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TREY: And you were seeing this woman
kind of becoming a cult leader,
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using religious tactics
and shaming tactics.
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She makes you feel like
you're evil
480
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and that you really, really need
a ton of help.
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So glad you're with us.
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There's something here for you.
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Despite concerns
over her beliefs and attitudes,
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Jodi's life coaching business
was successful and lucrative.
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There's a lot of individuals
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that were spending a ton of money
on this woman.
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00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,160
Jodi Hildebrandt's house in Ivins
was like around 10,000 square feet.
488
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,560
That's a big house.
Clearly, she was successful.
489
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,320
Clearly, she had a following.
490
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,360
Clearly, they were making
a lot of money.
491
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,480
It was very difficult to see
that this woman
492
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,920
was living in this type of home,
493
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,440
knowing very well
the destruction she has caused.
494
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,520
People began to really sort of see
the cracks in Jodi's armour
495
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,000
and her questionable practices
as a therapist.
496
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,280
I started to see Jodi Hildebrandt
kind of like, have this, um...
497
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,840
a God complex.
498
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,240
She was like a possessed woman.
499
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600
And other people began to talk
online about how she had
500
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,400
deeply and irrevocably
affected their marriages.
501
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,160
They talked about how she had
separated men from their wives.
502
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,000
With Jodi having already moved
into the Franke family home,
503
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Ruby and husband Kevin separated.
504
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,040
Jodi moved in with
Ruby and her family,
505
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:11,520
and by summer 2022, Kevin,
Ruby's husband, had moved out.
506
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,480
Jodi's coming in,
using and leveraging
507
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,040
all of those religious beliefs
about sexual impurity
508
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,120
and saying,
"Well, Kevin's this, Kevin's that."
509
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,720
And then Kevin
gets kicked out of the house.
510
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:29,040
He was asked to leave,
and just suddenly, he wasn't there.
511
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,520
Which was surprising
because, prior to that,
512
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,960
he and Ruby
seemed to get along quite nicely.
513
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Again, it appeared that Jodi
had continued her typical practice
514
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,120
of separating husbands and wives,
and that included with Ruby Franke.
515
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,000
Jodi was quite the puppeteer,
that's for sure.
516
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,360
Like, this woman
is a master of manipulation.
517
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,840
It just seemed like Ruby's world
got smaller and smaller.
518
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480
As Ruby and Jodi grew closer,
519
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,400
others in the community
kept Ruby at arm's length.
520
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,840
In the neighbourhood,
521
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,640
there were many people
that pulled back from Ruby
522
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,320
and said they believed
that she was in a cult,
523
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,480
and that had been expressed to me.
524
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,600
Some people think she's in a cult,
some people think she's too extreme,
525
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,680
but there was definitely talk
in the neighbourhood, and concern,
526
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,040
and splitting opinions.
527
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,960
Then in early 2023,
528
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:39,320
Ruby made a decision to take
her youngest children out of school.
529
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,280
I'm excited, because I'm...
530
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,640
I'm home-schooling all my kids now,
531
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,680
and it's fun.
532
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,280
We're keeping it super simple.
533
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,760
That's when everything
made a drastic change,
534
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,640
because we no longer saw the younger
children in the neighbourhood,
535
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,720
and we would see them in
the neighbourhood many times a week,
536
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,320
walking their dog,
riding their scooters.
537
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,880
And then, suddenly, we quit
seeing all of them altogether.
538
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,720
Although Jodi had been living
in the Franke family home,
539
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,400
she and Ruby
now spent most of their time
540
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,480
at Jodi's $5 million home,
four hours' south in Ivins.
541
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,600
She spent all of her time in Ivins,
542
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,920
sometimes leaving her kids
in Springville,
543
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,280
like, 250 miles away.
544
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,040
Ruby's 19-year-old daughter
had cut ties with her parents
545
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,680
due to her mother's increasingly
concerning behaviour.
546
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,400
She became so worried
547
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,040
that she even made a 911 call
to the police.
548
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,960
RINGING TONE
549
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,480
In September of 2022,
550
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,160
our police department
received a call
551
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,360
from the adult daughter
of Ruby Franke.
552
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,000
At the time,
I believe the youngest child
553
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,800
would've been about
eight years old.
554
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,520
The next oldest child
would've been about 12 years old,
555
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200
and she was concerned
about the children's welfare
556
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,640
and asked if an officer
could go by and check the house.
557
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,160
He knocked on the door,
could see children in the home,
558
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,760
but they didn't answer the door.
559
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,960
Our officers, over the course
of just a couple of weeks,
560
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,320
made five attempts to go back
to the home and try to make contact.
561
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,760
Even the allegation itself
562
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,760
that the children
have been left home alone
563
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,360
is not criminal conduct,
564
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,520
so there wasn't enough evidence
for the court
565
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,640
to grant that search warrant
to speak to her.
566
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,400
A year after Ruby's daughter
called the police,
567
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,040
another 911 call was made.
568
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,960
This one would set in motion
a chilling chain of events.
569
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,600
RINGING TONE
570
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880
WOMAN:
571
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720
MAN:
572
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,680
Ruby Franke's 12-year-old son
573
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,920
had turned up
at a house in Ivins, Utah.
574
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,840
As a journalist, you hear a lot
of really horrific stories.
575
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,880
It just comes with the territory.
576
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,000
But this 911 call
absolutely chilled me to the bone.
577
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,760
If a child shows up at your door,
asks you to call police,
578
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,520
and you can't talk
to the operator without crying,
579
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,120
I think that underscores
how serious the abuse was.
580
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,560
OPERATOR:
581
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,960
NEIGHBOUR:
582
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,040
He's blaming himself,
and then he asks the neighbour
583
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,280
to take him to jail,
to take him to the cops.
584
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,880
He didn't just run away from home
to get help,
585
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,800
he ran away from home thinking
that he was going to be put in jail.
586
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,640
NEIGHBOUR:
587
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,640
OPERATOR:
588
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,560
NEIGHBOUR:
589
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,960
Within moments, the police descended
on Jodi's house.
590
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,080
NEIGHBOUR: 'I never imagined
591
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,880
'anything close to that
was going on.'
592
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,920
SIRENS
593
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,720
NARRATOR: On August 30, 2023,
594
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,640
Ruby Franke's son escaped
from Jodi Hildebrandt's house.
595
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,600
RINGING TONE
596
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,160
MAN:
597
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,800
Within minutes, police
and paramedics arrived at the house.
598
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,840
This is a lot.
599
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,880
Oh, boy.
MAN: I know.
600
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,960
We learn just how terrible
these wounds actually were.
601
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,600
This was deep, deep wounds,
602
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,520
and then they were wrapped in
like a saran wrap
603
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,920
with cayenne pepper
and honey mixture.
604
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,960
And then that was covered, you know,
additionally, with more tape.
605
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,080
This was torture.
606
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,760
MAN:
607
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,720
The 12-year-old boy told officers
that the people who tied him up
608
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,280
were Jodi Hildebrandt
and his own mother, Ruby Franke.
609
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,240
And he thought that
two of his sisters,
610
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,840
aged 9 and 14,
were in danger back at the house.
611
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,760
The question for law enforcement
then became
612
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,720
where are her other children,
613
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,800
and what condition are they in?
614
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,760
We need to identify that house,
and if there's two other kids there,
615
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,720
we need to go through
a security sweep of that house.
616
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,360
The home of Jodi Hildebrandt
was quickly surrounded by police.
617
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,040
Front door, left. To the left.
618
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Once the police arrived...
619
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,600
..all hell broke loose.
620
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,440
She was very combative,
aggressive almost to a point,
621
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,080
suggesting that they had no right
to be there at the home.
622
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,600
Officers began an urgent raid
of the 10,000-square-foot property.
623
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000
OFFICER:
624
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,520
JODI:
625
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,560
OFFICER:
626
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:47,920
Reality is, they don't even need
a search warrant,
627
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,160
because the situation is so severe.
628
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,840
'They're concerned for immediate
safety of the children right now.'
629
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,040
This was less of a home
and more of a compound,
630
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,000
with rooms upon rooms upon rooms.
631
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,960
It spans acres,
632
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,600
to the point that law enforcement
633
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,080
had to really search
throughout this home,
634
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,880
worrying about the condition
of her other children.
635
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,960
Desperate attempts to find
the young girls continued.
636
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,160
And not long after,
250 miles away, in Springville,
637
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,160
police stormed the home
of Ruby Franke.
638
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:28,800
MALE OFFICER:
639
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,560
Just the verbal report
that we received
640
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,040
from the Ivins Police Department
caused great concern
641
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,440
for our officers and our department.
642
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,520
'I was home when the police
came to their Springville house.'
643
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,240
We all sat outside and watched
over a dozen police cars show up,
644
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,000
and we had no idea
what was going on.
645
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,440
We were very concerned
about the condition
646
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,800
of the children,
whose whereabouts were unknown.
647
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,600
FEMALE OFFICER:
648
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,920
With the clock ticking,
649
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,320
officers went to desperate measures
to find Ruby's other young children.
650
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,200
MALE OFFICER:
651
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,600
FEMALE OFFICER:
652
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
We certainly didn't rule out
that the children
653
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,640
could've been being held captive...
654
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,800
..abused, malnourished...
655
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,400
..and potentially have been dead.
656
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,760
But the house was empty.
657
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,320
Police in Springville
searched for answers,
658
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,080
but officers
at Jodi's house in Ivins
659
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,960
had made a disturbing discovery.
660
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Eventually, police find a girl
in her... in her room in the dark,
661
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:18,640
who also appears emaciated.
662
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,840
There's this little girl
663
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,120
with a shaved head,
sitting in the middle of the room.
664
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,360
Quiet, stoic, won't say anything,
665
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,760
won't look at them.
666
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,760
Refuses to leave for hours.
667
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,600
She appeared frightened,
668
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,760
terrified to answer
police questions.
669
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,560
And eventually,
police had to bring her food
670
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,360
in order to get her to trust them.
671
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,760
She was so scared of the police
that they had to spend a long time
672
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,160
actually trying to coax her
to come out
673
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200
and convince her that
they were taking her somewhere safe.
674
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Fearing that there could be
more children still in Jodi's home,
675
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,440
the police continued their search.
676
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,720
The story goes
from scary to terrifying.
677
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,240
You see what looks like a panic room
678
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,200
that law enforcement is adamant
they need to get into,
679
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,320
out of fear
that a child could be in there.
680
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,800
In their search
of other rooms in the home,
681
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,320
police found what looked like
evidence of torture.
682
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,000
Rope, adult diapers, duct tape,
683
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,840
and wound dressings
covered in cayenne pepper.
684
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,600
The two youngest children
were taken to hospital,
685
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,480
and the severity of their injuries
686
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,000
would keep them there
for three days.
687
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,720
When we learned the details of
what had happened to those children,
688
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,440
I never imagined
anything close to that was going on.
689
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,040
It was sickening,
690
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,600
it was shocking,
it was heartbreaking.
691
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,000
It made me cry.
692
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,440
I know those children.
693
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,160
We loved those children,
and we still do.
694
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,960
VOICE BREAKS:
It's gonna make me cry now.
695
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,400
It makes me sick to my stomach.
696
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,200
Things were really bad,
and we understood
697
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:13,280
that children were being abused,
but the extent of that abuse
698
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,840
was something far worse
than we imagined.
699
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,880
Police knew that Ruby's two eldest
children had already moved out,
700
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,640
but her two middle teenage daughters
were still missing.
701
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,400
'We were very concerned
about the welfare of the children.'
702
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,560
We dedicate all of our personnel
that day
703
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,600
to trying to locate the children.
704
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600
After two-and-a-half hours,
705
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,800
police received the warrant
to unlock the safe.
706
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,600
They discovered rope,
handcuffs and a bed,
707
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,360
confirming suspicions
that a child had been locked inside.
708
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,440
Finally,
four hours after the raid began,
709
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,920
Ruby Franke turned up
at Jodi's home.
710
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,360
FEMALE OFFICER:
711
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,760
But neither
of her two missing daughters,
712
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
aged 14 and 16, were with her.
713
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,240
When Ruby arrived at the house,
she appeared completely unfazed.
714
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,520
'The house was swarming with police,
and Ruby just sat down on the couch.
715
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,360
'She at no point asks,
"Where are my children?" '
716
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Ruby didn't say anything
to the police.
717
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,760
She didn't try
to offer up any defence.
718
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,760
She didn't ask any questions.
719
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,280
Instead, she goes quiet,
720
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,800
and at this point,
the cops put her into handcuffs.
721
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:50,720
Ruby Franke was now in custody,
but uncooperative.
722
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,040
In Springville, police officers
received intel from locals
723
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,280
that Ruby's 16-year-old daughter
724
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,920
was seen at a sports club
earlier in the day.
725
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,160
So we spoke to their employees
at the rec centre,
726
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,440
and they said that
the Franke daughter
727
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,520
had left with an adult woman,
who was not her mother,
728
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,480
but they didn't know who she was.
729
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,720
We retrieved a surveillance video
from the rec centre
730
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,800
and could see an adult woman
731
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:25,600
taking the Franke daughter
with her in a car.
732
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,400
We found out who the vehicle
is registered to,
733
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,120
and it's a woman who lives
20 miles north of Springville.
734
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,960
So that's the next location
that we went to search.
735
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,360
She seems almost unaware
of why they may be there,
736
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,040
surprised that they would be there
looking for Ruby Franke's children.
737
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,240
Both girls
appeared physically unharmed,
738
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,160
but noticeably troubled.
739
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,960
Ruby's friend explained
to the police
740
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,680
that she had been asked by Ruby
to take care of the children
741
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:30,840
for the evening.
742
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Police verified the friend's story
743
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,520
and eventually
cleared them of any wrongdoing.
744
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,800
For Child Protective Services
and law enforcement,
745
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,680
their mindset is,
"Let's take the children,
746
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,240
"make sure they're safe,
make sure they're healthy,
747
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,360
"and then we'll figure out
the rest."
748
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,440
With all four minor children
under child protection,
749
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,560
Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt
were taken into custody
750
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,000
and charged with six counts
of aggravated child abuse.
751
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,480
Three years after she was
first reported to authorities,
752
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Ruby was finally in custody.
753
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,960
'And I think that's when
it all kind of hit us.'
754
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Like, this is beyond anything
755
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,840
we thought this woman
would do to her children.
756
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,360
If that youngest son
had not run away,
757
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,760
100% believe that these children
would not be alive right now.
758
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,320
But in my 26 years
of law enforcement,
759
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,000
I can say that I haven't seen
any worse circumstances
760
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,960
of children being mistreated,
761
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,600
abused, held captive,
and malnourished.
762
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,120
I haven't seen
anything worse than this.
763
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,920
NARRATOR:
Within hours of Ruby Franke
764
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,520
and Jodi Hildebrandt's arrest,
765
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,160
police were uncovering
the full extent of their abuse.
766
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,120
We received details
from the Ivins Police Department
767
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,240
about how the children
had been abused, malnourished
768
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,840
and held captive in Ivins.
769
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,320
And those details
are absolutely just heartbreaking.
770
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,360
Chris, you open the door.
771
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,560
After Ruby and Jodi were arrested,
they were taken into custody
772
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,280
and questioned by
the Ivins Police Department.
773
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,920
MAN:
774
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,200
WOMAN:
775
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,200
In my experience in law enforcement,
their reaction to questions
776
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,360
from law enforcement is strange
777
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,480
and bizarre that
they appeared to show no emotion
778
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,720
and seemed to be detached
from what they had done.
779
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,520
MAN:
780
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,440
WOMAN:
781
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:49,600
MAN:
782
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,400
WOMAN:
783
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,600
WOMAN:
784
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,720
WOMAN:
785
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,680
MAN:
786
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,200
Ruby and Jodi were both charged
787
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:40,680
with multiple counts
of aggravated child abuse.
788
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:42,440
MAN:
789
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,400
As Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt
were taken to jail,
790
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,600
law enforcement
continued an extensive search
791
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,760
of both their homes.
792
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,640
Officers quickly discovered
a crucial piece of evidence -
793
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,960
Ruby's personal journal,
794
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,560
which laid out in graphic detail
the extent of the abuse.
795
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,320
One of the major pieces of evidence
was Ruby Franke's own diary.
796
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:04,720
Weaved into this diary
is this kind of undertone
797
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,680
of this need to reform the children,
because they were innately evil.
798
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,720
Ruby Franke's own words
from her diary entries
799
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,760
have been voiced here
using AI technology.
800
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,920
'And once the lies and sin
is revealed,
801
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,080
'the body must engage in good work,
802
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,480
'and the good work
needs to be painful.'
803
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,800
KYLE DUNPHEY:
We learned in her diary
804
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,120
about forcing her kids
to work outside,
805
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,640
do chores without shoes on.
806
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,960
I mean, it gets really hot in Utah.
807
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,480
It's a pretty sinister picture
of what was happening.
808
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,680
BRIAN BUCKMIRE:
Some of the hard labour
809
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:58,520
that they were forced to do as ways
of humbling themselves under God...
810
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,920
..and correcting past behaviour.
811
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,760
She is very descriptive
in these journals
812
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,800
about covering
the youngest son's face and nose
813
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,360
and holding him underwater.
814
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,000
'I now know the demon he harbours
in his heart is so sick
815
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,920
'that, in order to keep my son,
816
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,600
'I will need to put him back
under sedation,
817
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,440
'like stitching up a patient knowing
you didn't get all the cancer out.
818
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:36,200
'And it's only a matter of time
before your patient keels over.'
819
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,520
She's sedating her children
in order to control them.
820
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,480
As disturbing details of the abuse
821
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,320
continue to be unravelled
by police...
822
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,000
officers turned their attention
823
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,920
to the children's father,
Kevin Franke,
824
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,040
who had previously
separated from Ruby,
825
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,120
in order to establish
whether he had any involvement.
826
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,880
Law enforcement
begins questioning Kevin Franke,
827
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,160
asking him
about the state of his children.
828
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,800
MAN:
829
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,040
WOMAN:
830
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,120
Many of us looked at this
and thought,
831
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,840
"How could you not know
the conditions of your children?
832
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,080
"Not have a phone call,
a text message,
833
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,920
"an email, a letter, something,
834
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,440
"knowing how your children are doing
835
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,160
"under the care
of your separated wife?"
836
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,160
MAN:
837
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,640
A really kind of striking part
about this whole case
838
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,840
is that I think a lot of the abuse
839
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,560
and allegations of abuse went on
840
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,440
without Kevin Franke
knowing about it.
841
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,480
And he was clearly really surprised
to learn of some of the details.
842
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,080
MAN:
843
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:29,280
That's when law enforcement
844
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,520
perhaps stopped
looking at Kevin Franke
845
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,880
as a potential suspect
846
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,720
and started looking at him
as a potential victim.
847
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,720
Kevin later claimed
he had been deceived,
848
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,320
and that Jodi had destroyed
his family.
849
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,080
He cooperated with police,
850
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,960
and there were no charges
brought against him.
851
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,000
Ruby Franke made several
phone calls to her husband, Kevin,
852
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,720
where she appeared unrepentant,
853
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,480
painting herself as the victim.
854
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,760
She almost seemed
to blame her children
855
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,080
for the situation more than herself,
856
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,640
and she had this mentality
857
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,680
that she would soon be out of jail,
858
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,320
that this...
some grand mistake had been made.
859
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:02,600
At the end of 2023, Ruby Franke
finally faced her day in court.
860
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,640
Ruby Franke's name was everywhere.
861
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,080
There was just this really palpable,
uh, rage against her.
862
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,320
She was abusing her children.
That's one of the cardinal sins.
863
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,520
Good morning,
welcome to District Court.
864
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,000
We're here in the matter
865
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,760
of State of Utah versus Franke,
case number 2-3-1-5-0-1-7-6-4.
866
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,320
NARRATOR: In December 2023,
Ruby Franke appeared in court
867
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,960
facing several counts
of aggravated child abuse.
868
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,960
Journalists flooded the courtroom
in anticipation
869
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,840
of finally hearing
what Ruby would say.
870
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,240
In court, television cameras
871
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,440
broadcast her every move
to the nation.
872
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,880
The Ruby who arrived in court
is a very different Ruby
873
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,160
than the one that we got to know
874
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,040
through 8Passengers
and Connexions.
875
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,920
There's none of the confidence,
that's all lost.
876
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,240
We've gone from this bubbly,
confident blonde
877
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,560
to this meek, almost subservient,
878
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,320
almost silent, um, individual
879
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,760
that almost looks like
880
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,480
if she could make herself any
smaller, she would be doing that.
881
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,520
There was an absolute frenzy
around her case.
882
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,360
When she first went to court,
883
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,920
this case was like
the crime of the century,
884
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,000
and everyone
wanted to be witness to it.
885
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,080
News cameras captured
the astonishing moment
886
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,920
that Ruby Franke stood up
and finally addressed the court.
887
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,320
Ms Franke,
how do you plead to count one,
888
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,360
aggravated child abuse,
a second-degree felony?
889
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,840
Guilty.
890
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,920
To count three,
aggravated child abuse,
891
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,520
a second-degree felony?
892
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Guilty.
893
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,440
To count five,
aggravated child abuse,
894
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:02,920
a second-degree felony?
895
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Guilty.
896
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,040
And to count six,
aggravated child abuse,
897
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,720
a second-degree felony?
898
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,960
With my deepest regret and sorrow
for my family and my children,
899
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,240
guilty.
900
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,400
There are a lot
of people that felt vindicated.
901
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:27,040
Finally, there's some sort
of justice for this woman.
902
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,880
Ruby Franke took a plea deal first.
903
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,080
Days later, Jodi Hildebrandt
also took a plea deal.
904
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,720
I'm relieved to see that Ruby Franke
905
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,480
and Jodi Hildebrandt pled guilty,
906
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,400
rather than having to put
the children, or the family
907
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,240
or anyone else through a trial.
908
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,320
So in that regard, it feels as
though now justice has been served.
909
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,720
Two months later, in February 2024,
910
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,800
Ruby and Jodi were back in court
911
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,840
for sentencing hearings.
912
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,520
Again, cameras captured their
staggering statements to the court,
913
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,240
and prosecutors laid out
the extent of their crimes.
914
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,960
We're here for sentencing
915
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,080
in the matter of State of Utah
versus Ruby Franke.
916
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,520
She committed horrible acts
of child abuse.
917
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,040
From May to August in 2023,
918
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,720
Miss Franke and her business partner
held her two children,
919
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,640
ages 9 and 11, turning 12,
920
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,840
in a concentration-camp-like
setting.
921
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,440
In her address to the court,
Ruby said that she had been led
922
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,000
to a dark delusion that she
was living in a distorted reality,
923
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,960
and she blamed Jodi for isolating
her from her friends and family.
924
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,600
For the past four years,
925
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,560
I've chosen to follow counsel
and guidance
926
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,040
that has led me
into a dark delusion.
927
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,480
Ruby talked about being duped
and almost hoodwinked,
928
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,560
and kind of pulled apart
from her family, isolated,
929
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,760
and made to feel
that this was the only way
930
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,160
to protect her children.
931
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,320
I was led to believe
that this world was an evil place,
932
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,680
filled with cops who control,
933
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,800
hospitals that injure,
934
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,560
government agencies that brainwash,
935
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,440
church leaders who lie and lust,
936
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,520
husbands who refuse to protect,
937
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,360
and children who need...
938
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,120
..abused.
939
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,200
There's no direct
or definitive ownership
940
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,640
of the choices that she made,
of the behaviour.
941
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,880
It comes from her being naive enough
to be deceived
942
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,480
into this notion that the world
is full of evil people,
943
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:40,000
and that she was brainwashed rather
than acting from her own agency.
944
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,280
I still question whether or not
she's taken full accountability
945
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,320
and responsibility for her actions.
946
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,560
This is torture
of another human being,
947
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,640
but not just any human being.
948
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,760
This is torturing a child
that you have birthed,
949
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,320
that you have carried,
950
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,640
that you have fed,
that you have loved.
951
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,600
Court is back in session...
952
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,000
Cameras also captured
953
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,640
Jodi Hildebrandt's statement
to the court
954
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,160
as she finally addressed
what she had done.
955
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,480
I sincerely love these children.
956
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,880
I desire for them
to heal physically and emotionally.
957
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,280
One of the reasons
I did not go to trial,
958
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,280
so I did not want them to
emotionally relive the experience,
959
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,560
which would have been
detrimental to them.
960
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,600
Jodi said, like, she loves the kids
961
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,600
and she wants them to have,
like, a great life or something.
962
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,360
I was like...
963
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,720
the audacity,
964
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,680
the absolute audacity of this woman.
965
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,840
You love these children.
What do you think love is?
966
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,880
Is love duct tape and handcuffs
in the basement?
967
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,600
I could never classify that as love.
968
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,960
News outlets broadcast
the judge's sentencing
969
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,600
and damning assessment of the case.
970
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,400
Your conduct in this case
was disastrous for these children.
971
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,520
Adults are supposed
to protect children.
972
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,200
Adults with specialised training,
in particular,
973
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,480
are supposed to protect children.
974
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,560
You didn't do that in this case.
975
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,440
In this... In this case,
you terrorised children
976
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,480
and the results have been tragic.
977
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,800
Ruby and Jodi received sentences
978
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,840
of between 4 and 30 years
for their crimes.
979
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,920
The Utah Parole Board will review
their behaviour in prison
980
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,920
to determine when they are fit
for release.
981
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,640
After the arrests,
982
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:44,440
the four youngest Franke children
were placed into state care.
983
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:49,760
Kevin Franke filed for divorce
from Ruby in November 2023.
984
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,480
He has continued to fight
for full custody
985
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,080
of his children in the courts.
986
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,200
These are not just...
987
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,560
These weren't strangers.
988
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,560
These were children that we know,
989
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:02,920
and these were...
990
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:11,520
..happy, talkative,
engaging, silly children.
991
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:16,680
There is a compassion
and a love for those children.
992
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,000
As a community,
I think the focus needs to be
993
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,480
on what do we do
to build them up
994
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,840
and make them feel that the world
is not a horrible place.
995
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,640
Ruby Franke's fall from grace
was catastrophic.
996
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,560
She was a former YouTube star.
997
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,120
She had everything that seemed
like the new American Dream.
998
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,360
To become a convicted child abuser,
999
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,600
the world could not look away.
1000
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,840
Throughout my time as a journalist,
1001
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,920
I've covered some pretty dark,
bleak and grim cases.
1002
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,680
But there's something
about this one that stands out.
1003
01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:00,400
And to me, that's the fact that
it becomes this cautionary tale.
1004
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,840
It was horrific abuse...
1005
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,040
all being done by somebody
1006
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,720
who had marketed themselves
as this ideal family,
1007
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,840
and it really does shed a light
on what can really be going on
1008
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,480
behind closed doors
in some of these influencers' lives,
1009
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,600
especially when it comes
to content involving children.
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