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-I got a headache bro. -Uh, his head is starting to hurt.

THOMAS: Here, jump in here real quick.

We may have to get you off the ranch.

The fact that something would be interfering

points to malevolent intent.

In our tradition, if you see something,

you don't talk about it.

-TRAVIS: Hey, Look! UAP right there. -GARY: Yup.

So we have a region in altitude that tells us

there is some kind on phenomenon

taking place right here over the triangle.

NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah.

It is considered the epicenter

of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth:

animal mutilations,

bizarre UFO sightings

and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans.

For 20 years, the federal government

tried to find answers and failed.

Now a new team of dedicated scientists,

researchers and experts has taken over.

They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal...

...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

TRAVIS: I don't know if it's

the things we're doing that's stimulating these things

like launching rockets.

But there seems to be something happening that is

jamming, hacking, spoofing us.

TRAVIS: We've recently conducted

two new experiments at the triangle and have gotten

more confirmation that something strange

is happening about a mile above that area.

CAMERON: Three, two, one, bottle drop.

TRAVIS: First, we dropped GPS units

from Brandon's helicopter down through it.

TRAVIS: Holy cow. Look at that.

So we threw it out right there

and then, look, it goes upwind.

But something we couldn't see

seemed to deflect our instruments

away from the spot.

The rocket is going hot.

Then, we launched rockets up there with a team

of former military experts who brought a specialized

tracking system for studying UAP.

-Hey look, UAP right there. -GARY: Yep. I see it.

TRAVIS: We did stimulate something to appear in the sky,

but the tracking system

mysteriously shut down over and over...

You got to be kidding me.

...preventing us from getting any data.

Everything just went off-line.

We need to find a way to collect data in that zone

for a sustained period of time

to figure out just what's causing these strange events

that keep happening on Skinwalker Ranch.

Well, you know, these rockets are great

and we're seeing this data. The problem with them is

they go up so fast and come down so fast,

I don't feel like you guys are really getting a lot of data.

A typical flight trajectory is,

even with a very big chute on them,

is less than 20 or 30 seconds.

-Yeah. -So, it would be nice to linger there

like with a fixed-wing aircraft that we could just keep fly--

orbiting over the spot, or something.

You know, where we just make

a push broom-type of pattern at various altitudes.

TRAVIS: You could do that with, like, a Cessna or something like that

and you could put plenty of instruments in it.

They could go about a hundred miles an hour, or slower,

and just push broom back and forth over the ranch.

And then you could go up in altitude

and do it again and keep doing it.

We could get a complete 3D map

of GPS, gamma rays, radio,

whatever we wanted to do like that.

Well, we've talked about this for a while, I say we do it.

-Right. -TRAVIS: I'll bet you

that Cameron knows somebody,

that's got a plane that would do this, that would help us out.

Okay, should we go do it?

We need to reach out to Cameron to see if he can help us out.

BRYANT: Sounds good.

TRAVIS: Thanks, Erik.

TOM: Right up here is where the petroglyph is.

KANDUS: Okay.

TRAVIS: While we were preparing

for the experiment above the triangle,

Tom Lewis and Kandus Linde went to

nearby McConkie Ranch to meet with a respected

Navajo Nation's member named Jon Dover.

I think he said he was going to meet us

-just at the trailhead up here. -JON: Hello!

-I'm up here. -TOM: Jon.

Hello.

Come on up.

Let's head on up.

TRAVIS: Now, we want

any information that can help us with our investigation

and the Indigenous people in this region

have a long history with all kinds of strange phenomenon.

-KANDUS: You're good? -TOM: Oh, yeah.

TOM: Just recently, we met with Corey Serawop

who shared a story with us

about his experience in the Uinta Basin.

One thing he brought up was that we should visit

McConkie Ranch and check out the petroglyphs there.

This is amazing.

KANDUS: Wow, yeah.

TOM: Jon Dover has a deep understanding

of the petroglyphs and pictographs that are up

on the walls at McConkie Ranch.

And so, Kandus and I are very interested

to hear what Jon has to say.

-Ah, there you are. Hi. -JON: Hey, there.

-Glad you made it. -Thanks so much for having us.

-Kandus. -Jon.

Jon, nice to meet you.

-And I'm Tom. -Hi, Tom.

JON: My name is Jonathan Dover.

I spent 27 years

as a, uh, archeological resource investigator

with the Navajo Nation Rangers.

KANDUS: Oh, wow.

Yeah, this place is amazing.

JON: This is one place of a whole bunch of places

that have petroglyphs

that were put on these rocks a thousand years ago

or even earlier than that.

Mm-hmm.

JON: The ancient people that populated

this place and some of the other places around here show

that the natives back then

were seeing unusual things happening

and were recording them, too.

There's a lot of information that's put on these rocks

and they are put on in successive "timescape."

Everybody that came through would add something to it.

They're a record and...

unusual things would be documented on them.

They could depict clans, they could depict Gods,

they could even depict maps of the area.

Yeah, we have a few small panels at the ranch and we're really

trying to tie anything together that's in this region

to the ranch, to see if there's

connections or anything that we could draw

lines to.

We'll definitely see some connections here.

KANDUS: Excellent.

If we go further down here,

we're going to take a look at one of them.

-TOM: Great. -Show us the way.

Wow.

Here is the most interesting one that I've found so far,

is this spiral right here.

The spiral seems to be universal.

All through

the United States, through the Southwest,

in Europe, in Africa.

Some archeologists tell me that this spiral

could refer to some kind of a portal.

-A portal? -JON: Yeah, a portal.

Okay.

JON: And, uh, we think that there's something

called infrasound.

Which is different frequencies of sound

that you can't detect them with human hearing.

And we believe that it's very possible

that these different frequencies

can open portals to other places.

TRAVIS: For two years now,

all over Skinwalker Ranch we've seen this strange signal

with an RF frequency of 1.6 gigahertz.

BRYANT: We've got liftoff.

TRAVIS: Oh, my God, during launch

the electromagnetic spectrum is going

crazy, guys-- I've never seen anything like it.

No technology that we know of

uses this specific 1.6 gigahertz frequency,

but we often see it when people have

physiological episodes on the ranch,

and also, when we've seen UAPs.

Now, the idea that UAP and strange frequencies

are somehow connected to a phenomenon like a portal,

is very interesting,

especially since many of the Indigenous people

in this area truly believe that connection exists.

You're saying this is a portal? Or could be a portal?

This very much could be a portal.

The significance of portals

or dimensional gates, if you would...

Mm-hmm.

...is that the Navajos themselves

talk about a people coming to visit.

Different dimensions are not like walls.

If you can imagine...

...they're interlaced together.

So,

what if every now and then something just leaks through?

-Mm-hmm. -You could travel,

-we just don't know how to do it. -Yeah.

Even the Navajo creation story

talks about coming through several different worlds

until they see a hole in the sky

and they climb up into this world.

We think that there's something going on with frequency...

...that is creating this effect.

Wow.

There's a lot more we need to look at up here.

-All right. -So, we'll move along here.

TOM: As we were looking at this spiral petroglyph

described as a portal, Kandus and I realized

there is some sort of connection here

with what's happening on the ranch

and possibly at the triangle.

We've heard a lot of

very interesting stories about seeing portals

that opened right above people's heads

and figures coming out of these portals.

-It's amazing. -JON: Yeah.

KANDUS: Oh, yeah. I see it.

-TOM: Oh, and that's like a human... -KANDUS: It's another figure.

One thing I've just thought about is, you know,

just on this rock wall right here,

and it is speculation and inference...

-Right. -TOM: But...

we could have a skinwalker shape-shifter.

We could have...

-aliens. -Somebody coming through another dimension.

-Through other dimensions. -JON: Right.

The idea of Navajo skinwalkers,

gods coming from the sky,

even UFOs,

all had one thing in common and that's this idea

of dimensions and portals,

and it's the one thing that ties everything together.

With the spirals back here that you were

talking about could be indicative of-of a portal,

it could be that it was right here

or maybe off in the distance?

What do you think?

It-it could be a whole range of things.

We've actually

had stories involving UAPs that have

entered into mesas...

...and just gone right into the rock.

This idea of portals, of dimensions,

it all ties together, and that's what we're seeing with a lot

of these places and I think that's what you're

experiencing in the Uinta Basin there.

A lot of phenomenon that's associated

with cross-dimensional things going on.

KANDUS: Wow. We'd really love

to have you come to the ranch and look at a few things.

Based on what you've told us today

and your interpretation of these panels,

I think there's a good chance that the same

people that were here

could've very well been on our ranch at one point.

I think we'd both benefit

from you coming to the ranch and giving your insight to

-what we've seen there. -TOM: We have some

very interesting things right on the Skinwalker Ranch.

It might be things you've never seen before, so...

-I'd love to come over there. -KANDUS: Great.

TOM: Lead the way.

TRAVIS: I think we should stop right here.

Because of what happened last year with the sensors

on Brandon's helicopter

detecting an object right below us,

and also, what happened just two weeks ago

when we dropped GPS units into the triangle anomaly

which appeared to just bounce off

of an invisible object in the sky above the ranch...

-Hey, Kendra, how are you? -Hey.

TRAVIS: ...we really wanted to go further

with attempting to map that anomaly.

So, to conduct today's experiment

above the triangle area,

Cameron Fugal put us in touch with a pilot named Kendra Hart

who's agreed to take Erik up in her Cessna

to help us collect our data.

Since you fly out here, have you flown over the property?

The ranch itself?

I have not.

Most of my students stay further west and so,

this will be my first time this far out east

and especially over the ranch, so...

-ERIK: Really? -Yeah, it will be my first time.

-ERIK: First time? -First time. -TRAVIS: So...

What we want to do is fly from here over to the ranch.

When you get there,

we would like for you to do a grid pattern,

at, uh, five different altitudes.

Erik will show you the points of interest,

but there's a triangle right in the middle of the property

and directly above that,

between, say, 2,500 and 5,000 feet,

we've seen some weird things.

-KENDRA: Okay. -And, so we're hoping to get

some instrumentation in that area

and see if we can figure out what those weird things are.

-Awesome. -TRAVIS: One thing that,

uh, not to scare you, but occasionally,

when people are on the ranch and even

above the ranch have

sort of a physiological response to being there.

If you start feeling anything at any point,

you know, you're the pilot,

if it's time to abort the mission

'cause you got a weird feeling, then you abort the mission.

-All right? -Mm-hmm.

Well, we've got some work to do to get ready to go

and you may have some flight prep

-or something. -Absolutely.

So, we'll be maybe in and out of the cargo area

-for the next couple minutes and then we'll be ready to go. -Okay.

-Let's get it done. -TRAVIS: All right, Erik, let's grab everything.

ERIK: I'll be going up in the Cessna aircraft today

with some GPS trackers

and a data-logging radiation meter,

our standard equipment set including our spectrum analyzer,

Geiger counter

and other local equipment to observe whether

there are any GPS anomalies

up near the 5,000-foot point over the triangle.

TRAVIS: All right.

I'm gonna close it up and then go put it in the plane.

Sounds good.

TRAVIS: Today, the plan is to fly

the Cessna in a sequential push broom pattern over the ranch

sweeping back and forth over the triangle

at various altitudes. At the same time,

using the GPS sensors to collect data

that we hope will give us a three-dimensional model

of the anomaly

that we believe is up there somewhere between

3,000 and 5,000 feet above the ground.

-What do you got there? -This is your headset.

-ERIK: Got it. -Okay, and then, this is the radio

that we are using for the radio source.

ERIK: For this experiment, we're also making use of

a new avionic comm system,

making it easier for us to directly

communicate from the aircraft to the ground.

I'm gonna head back over to the ranch.

You guys get in the air. We're burning daylight, right?

-See you. -All right, see you in a bit.

ERIK: While I'm in the plane above the ranch,

the rest of the team will be monitoring from below.

I'm really excited to see what happens

during the course of the experiment.

THOMAS: I've got these antennas running.

-This is going out to the two jaggies. -Okay.

Once she gets over here, we should, uh,

see her start tracking on there.

THOMAS: Okay.

We're going to monitor this experiment

with a couple of different systems.

First, we have an ADSB.

Now, that identifies all the air traffic flying

in the vicinity of the ranch and shows them on a map.

We've also mounted two antennas

on the deck of the command center.

Those are pointed at the triangle

to track the signals being broadcast from Kendra's plane

as well as scan

for any dangerous energy spikes

like we've detected there in the past.

All right, great. Ah, let me get this going.

There it is, got it. All right, both are...

Both antennas and radios are functioning properly.

Hey, Kaleb.

This is the command center, do you copy?

Go ahead.

Start keeping an eye out,

probably five to ten minutes before we see them.

10-4. You guys will be the first to know.

This may be them right here 'cause this looks like...

would this be Roosevelt right here?

No. So, Roosevelt Airport is about right here.

Oh, then why are we not seeing their ADSB take off?

I don't understand that.

THOMAS: We're not getting them.

TRAVIS: So, we need to make sure that their, uh, ADSB is transponding.

Even though the Cessna was approaching the ranch,

it never showed up on the ADSB system.

All the other air traffic in the area appeared on the map,

and I could see with our antenna set up

that she was still broadcasting.

What could cause Kendra's plane

not to show up on the ADSB like that?

It makes no sense.

-Why are we not... -We're not picking them up.

Here.

Hey, Erik, this is Travis, do you copy?

We-we are not seeing you on the ADSB.

I wonder if Kaleb's gotten eyes on them.

Yeah, call Kaleb and ask him.

Go ahead.

Have you gotten eyes on the plane yet?

10-4.

It's, uh, going over the property now.

THOMAS: What the heck is going on up there?

So... why are we not picking her up?

Hey, Erik, it's Bryant.

We are still not picking you up on the flight tracker.

Do you have any other traffic on the display right now?

-Tell him yes. -Yes, we do.

We are seeing all sorts of air traffic.

But she's broadcasting on the ADSB.

I'm watching her.

This is her, right here with both antennas.

She's broadcasting...

-Yeah, I can see that. -TRAVIS: ...the signal.

THOMAS: I mean, this is picking up

planes that are a hundred miles away

-and 30,000 feet up. -TRAVIS: That doesn't...

That doesn't make any sense.

I had antennas that were tuned to that frequency,

and I could pick up the signal coming from the airplane,

but for some reason

her system isn't working.

This is what's so weird about the ranch.

One thing we do know is,

uh, her system does record the ADSB data,

and even though we will get a text file

that we can reinterpret after the flight, but I wanted it now.

TRAVIS: It wasn't ideal,

but we knew that Erik was collecting GPS data

and Kendra was recording the ADSB data.

We hoped that would be enough to salvage some of this experiment.

So should I still keep going over or...?

ERIK: Oh, yeah.

Over the middle of the triangle.

-All right. -THOMAS: Got it.

Wait, is that-- There they are. Right there, look.

Thomas, in the middle. Look in the middle.

-Look way up there. -Okay, yup.

TRAVIS: There they are, right there.

November 8-4-7-1-7,

could you tell us your pressure altitude, please?

TRAVIS: So, that's...

Going up to 4,000 feet above ground level.

Gosh, she's moving fast.

Thomas, I got them coming in eastbound

over the triangle again.

TRAVIS: While Erik and Kendra were continuing

their pattern sweep above the triangle,

all we could do back in the command center

was just hope that they were getting data that we could use.

Hopefully, the GPS trackers are the saving grace

for this experiment, because we're not getting

-what we want out of this. -Yeah,

I'm hoping I can salvage something out of it.

THOMAS: We have not had

a single experiment out at the triangle,

up in the air, that has gone per plan.

So, what is it about the triangle

and us trying to do experiments at the triangle

that seems to trigger, you know, irregularities?

BRYANT: It seems

like someone or something, doesn't want us

to collect data from the triangle.

That's what it seems like.

It's a pattern.

It's certainly making it hard for us.

Copy that.

(static buzzing)

(static continues)

What happened? What the heck is that?

What just suddenly popped up on... What?

THOMAS: That 1.6.

BRYANT: It was there for a couple seconds, now it's gone.

TRAVIS: It sure as heck was.

(static buzzing)

What are you hearing?

(static buzzing)

All right, what's going on?

-We're not broadcasting anything like that. -TRAVIS: All right.

So, yeah, we're not broadcasting anything like that.

Negative, Erik, there's, uh, nothing within

40, 50 miles of the ranch.

(static buzzing)

Is it another airplane?

TRAVIS: We were all totally mystified

when both Erik and Kendra, the pilot, suddenly reported

that some kind of shadow was tracking along with the Cessna.

BRYANT: That's extremely strange.

TRAVIS: We checked our ADSB system

and there was no other plane in the area.

It immediately made me think of last year

when Erik and I were

in the helicopter with Cameron Fugal

over the triangle and something showed up

on his radar just 50 feet beneath us.

(alert buzzing)

There's something underneath us according to the radar.

That we later identified in camera footage

as some kind of shadowy UAP.

THOMAS: Kaleb, do you have eyes

on a second aircraft?

I am scanning now.

TRAVIS: Look at that. The 1.6 is going crazy.

-(static buzzing) -I don't know what that is.

TRAVIS: In the middle of all this chaos, once again

the spectrum analyzer suddenly registered an RF radiation spike

at a frequency of 1.6 gigahertz.

Now, that's the same kind of energy spike

we've seen over and over when UAPs have appeared in the past.

And it happened at the same time Erik and Kendra were seeing

the shadow of some sort of mysterious aircraft.

(static buzzing)

TRAVIS (echoes): What is that?

(echoes): What the heck?

What?

Why is that picking us up?

TRAVIS: Uh... It's picking us all up.

Just after the 1.6 gigahertz RF spike

in the control room, we suddenly heard our own voices

being broadcast and echoing back at us.

Call them and tell them to give me the signal.

(echoing): Stand by, stand by for one moment, please.

TRAVIS: There's no way that should have been possible.

It was like we were being recorded

by someone or something in real time.

(static buzzing)

(echoing): Maybe it's in here.

TRAVIS (echoing): That is telling us that one of us

is broadcasting at 1.623800 gigahertz.

That is really odd.

Erik and I have been having a conversation lately

that we think that there could be

an eavesdropping device here.

Maybe we've been detecting it with the spectrum analyzers.

And it...

That might be it.

Really?

And so, somebody is turning it on and off

which is why we're not seeing it all the time.

Possibly.

The strange energy spike along with the sound frequency

from the radio and our voices being

broadcast and echoing back at us could mean

that we are being surveilled on the ranch.

But what I can't even begin to explain,

especially given that Erik and Kendra saw

what they believed to be a UAP,

is what the source of that surveillance could be.

I'm gonna walk outside and see if somehow it's on me

and then maybe you guys take turns.

So, you go out and talk.

-TRAVIS: Right. -We'll listen for you.

-Okay. Yep. -And then we can send him out there with you.

Hello, can you guys hear me? Hello, testing, testing...

-Well, we can hear him. -Yeah.

BRYANT: This has me really concerned.

The fact that

there is something or someone that could be listening to us

and actually broadcasting our sound back to us again?

Why is this happening?

So, we could still hear you outside.

Huh.

BRYANT: Testing, testing, testing.

Are you guys picking me up at all? Testing, testing.

THOMAS: The most troubling thing for me

was hearing Travis, Bryant

and myself being broadcast over this frequency.

What in the crap does that mean?

THOMAS: I've said before,

is there not any safe place on the ranch?

I would say now, is there any private place on the ranch?

TRAVIS: The signal stopped.

-What have we played with? -What just happened?

TRAVIS: That was really odd.

So, we are descending now...

We were getting this interference

on our, on our comms.

BRYANT: Erik, I don't like that.

I would advise that you come down, from a safety standpoint.

...head on back to the airport from there.

Well, they're done. That's it.

They're headed back to the airport.

Erik's still got the handheld

if we want to talk to him on his way,

but they'll be at the airport in five or ten minutes.

All right.

TRAVIS: The main bit of data

that we're really looking forward to

is the GPS data that Erik and I put

in the plane, it's collecting it real time

on the computer so we know it's actually working.

And when he gets on the ground and we crunch that,

we're gonna be able to create a GPS anomaly map

over the entire ranch from a thousand feet

to 6,000 feet above ground level.

They'll be there before I get there,

so I probably need to get going.

-Okay. -Okay.

♪ ♪

-TOM: Well, hey, Jon. -Hey, hello.

TOM: After meeting

with Jon at McConkie, it was obvious that he needed

to come to Skinwalker Ranch.

His interpretation

of the petroglyphs and pictographs

that are up on the walls at McConkie Ranch

could be really interesting to Erik and Travis.

There's a lot of similarities in what we saw there

and then there are some things here that

I've never seen before and we hope

you can give us some insight on.

Right, I'd love to see them.

Let's jump in the Ranger and head down.

KANDUS: We've found a strange notable location

on top of the mesa,

and we are hoping to get his take

on what it is.

TOM: So, it is just right

kind of at the top of this mesa, so it's a little bit of a hike.

KANDUS: It's important that we explore

what all these sites could mean

in the bigger picture of the ranch.

TOM: Yeah, so, this spot is some sort of mound.

JON: Absolutely amazing.

TOM: The fact that there's all of these stones

around what seems to be some sort of mound

in the very middle.

What do you think?

JON: I get the sense that this is something sacred here.

That it was purpose-built.

I was gonna make a suggestion.

-KANDUS: Mm-hmm. -JON: Um...

In a lot of native cultures, your...

you approach things from a clockwise direction.

So, uh, what I'd like to do is approach this and go around

in a clockwise manner

-and take a look at things. -Okay.

It's just a sign of respect on any type of sacred site

and we just want to honor that here.

If you go counterclockwise, it's kind of a negative thing.

-KANDUS: Let's do that. -Yeah, why don't you lead the way?

JON: We got up to the top of the mesa there

and to me it looked almost like

a Stonehenge-type structure

with these rocks in a circular pattern around there.

Traditional beliefs with the Navajo are

something that is brought up when you're a child.

You grow up

in that there is a certain way to act,

there is a certain way to do things

and so, you would start and go clockwise around it

and come back to it to complete the circle before you entered.

Um, that's just traditional-- most native tribes.

KANDUS: So, I want to stop and show you something

on this boulder.

Maybe you want to step over and look at it here yourself

for just a minute, but there were a few things...

...that seemed worth noting.

What do you think of those?

What I'm seeing here is four distinct lines

that are carved into this rock

and, uh, typically,

they could be marking periods of time.

We don't know what the time was.

-And then... -And around the side there, you'll see...

You see right where you're standing.

-You see that little... -Yeah.

We understand the erosion here, but that hole...

-Right. -KANDUS: Yeah, so...

That looks like it could be natural?

Well, this one, uh, if you... if you sight through it,

-it's right on the horizon. -KANDUS: Mm-hmm.

JON: When you're looking at it.

And during spring and fall,

when the sun rises,

it-it comes straight through this hole.

TOM: Yeah.

So, what do you believe this is?

-This place? -This is, uh,

is rather interesting.

Uh, when I see mounds like this,

it could be a holy place.

I'm thinking here's a place

where prayers were offered.

A sacred place.

I believe that this area was used

as a talisman to keep the evil on that side.

That's incredible.

Hmm.

JON: I'm thinking there's

definitely something here.

And I-I just, I can...

-I can feel it in my bones, you know? -TOM: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

JON: Well, let's continue around

-and complete the circle. -KANDUS: Okay.

JON: Looking at this place in its entirety, it struck me

as a holy place.

It could have been used as some kind of protection ceremony

to keep whatever is historically here on Skinwalker Ranch

from traveling over the mesa.

And we have basically a spiral right here...

...that's been put into this ground here.

TOM: And as we've seen today at McConkie

and maybe here, that spiral

is indicative of...

A portal, a dimensional rift, an opening.

JON: The ancient people that populated this land

knew of this place.

There's evil there, there is something that can kill you,

whether it's skinwalkers or some kind of malignant power.

So, it doesn't strike me

as unusual, this spiritual idea, this warding off

of what could come that way.

TOM: So, Jon,

you've enlightened us so much

and given us so much more to work on,

and added greatly to our investigation, so...

-Well, good, good. I'm glad. -Yeah.

Thank you for having me out here.

Thank you for coming and spending this much time with us.

Yeah, let's head back down.

ERIK: We're going to take a look at

the data that we got out of the experiment with the Cessna.

I've got our own data.

We also have some data from the pilot.

Oh, good.

TRAVIS: The day after our Cessna experiment

over the triangle, Erik has all the data sorted out.

So, we're eager to see what he was able to collect,

given all the bizarre things that happened during the flight.

I'm glad that you had instruments on board

because we got bubkes of data here.

Right.

Now, I know, during the course of the experiment,

we could never pick her up on the radar.

You're talking about the ADSB receiver?

-Yeah. -THOMAS: Yeah.

Yeah, we saw you leave Roosevelt and go back to Roosevelt,

-but that's it. -ERIK: Right after

all the frustrations I know we had on the ground.

I mean, the stuff that I got out of the actual data logging,

it's really perplexing.

Get this.

These little guys, they receive signals

directly from the satellites.

They're GPS tracker units.

I had five of these things on the flight.

The data from four of the five was either absent or garbled.

And get this.

The one that worked, it's flawless.

This is really suggestive

that there is something locally going on here.

TRAVIS: Well, let's see it.

Yeah, let me bring this up.

ERIK: So, here we are at the Roosevelt airstrip.

And we did, just as planned,

we did several altitudes making those S-turns

and, uh, doing what we call the push broom pattern.

TRAVIS: So, you said that her system data-logged...

-ERIK: Uh-huh. -...uh, on board. So, what did it show?

You're not going to believe this.

So, this is what one of our units got.

-And as I said, it looks pristine. -TRAVIS: It really does.

THOMAS: I don't see anything in that,

that looks like anything jumped out of...

BRYANT: I mean, yeah.

Now, you guys are not gonna believe this.

Let me show you what I received from Kendra.

BRYANT: Uh... is that under the ranch?

ERIK: So, yeah. I need to explain this.

TRAVIS: Look at that.

-Uh-huh. -That's interesting.

ERIK: Just as you saw

with the yellow tracks from our trackers,

uh, you see the flight out.

-Mm-hmm. -Okay?

She's taking this path.

We execute one loop, if you will, over the property

and then everything falls apart.

(scoffs)

Many of the altitude readings

that she reported were

far beneath the ground; in fact, beneath sea level.

And not just beneath sea level, but 62 and a half

miles below sea level.

-TRAVIS: 62 and a half miles? -ERIK: Yes.

62 and a half miles is the altitude above sea level

that is considered the von Kármán line

where you go from atmosphere to space.

THOMAS: And that's exactly 62 and a half?

And this is-is exactly 62 and a half miles.

So, why did this choose 62 and a half miles

under the ground?

What do you get when you go there?

That is weird, though.

But this also is not the first time we've had

-GPS telling instrumentation that it's underground. -ERIK: Below ground.

-I know. That's right. -ERIK: That's the point.

ERIK: These blue cubes appear to be

70 feet below the surface of the mesa.

TRAVIS: Two weeks ago,

when we flew up into the mile-high zone

above the triangle in Brandon's helicopter,

our GPS data indicated that we flew into the mesa

and traveled through it for several hundred feet.

It looks like you smashed into the mesa.

What the heck?

TRAVIS: Now, this new GPS data collected over the same zone

above the triangle indicates

that the Cessna went into and below the mesa

the same distance that it is from sea level to outer space.

What in the hell could that possibly mean?

BRYANT: Given this,

and especially the fact that it seems like

we're being monitored out here,

with that strange

projecting of our voices remotely,

it's definitely a security issue and so,

I'm going to let Brandon know what's going on

and I'm sure he's going to be curious

to know what's going on with the data as well.

You know, I'm trying to think of other ways to look

at this anomaly other than just GPS systems.

What if we got some telescopes

and we looked through the anomaly,

and if it is some sort

of optical or gravitational anomaly,

our atmosphere should change.

And it should change in a way that it's not supposed to.

And then, we would measure, "Hey, look, there's something,

an anomaly there," and that would be data.

Well, I'm going to go call Brandon.

Yeah, I'll reach out to the astronomy guys.

TRAVIS: That's cool stuff, Erik.

ERIK: Previous researchers have commented

that theirs is the impression that the ranch phenomenology

responds, if not anticipates,

the experiments that they have attempted,

and we do see some support for that

in our experience here over the years.

Perhaps what we're seeing with the ADSB

transponder data receiver is an example of that interference.

TRAVIS: There are so many GPS anomalies that we're seeing.

There could be actually some advanced physics

like you would see in science fiction,

or like the stories of portals opening up.

Now, if that's the case, we could be on the edge

of some amazing discoveries.

BRANDON: Even with continued events

occurring at the triangle, we have setbacks.

It seems like something continues to push back on us

and create obstacles.

I think that just makes the team more determined than ever

to try to find out what is behind

a lot of the strange activity

on Skinwalker Ranch.

We would like to look through the anomaly

at an astronomical object

and see if they seem obscured.

THOMAS: Erik, the cows have scattered through the entire field.

Something's definitely scared them.

TRAVIS: What the hell is that in the sky?

-CHUCK: That thing is big and spherical. -TRAVIS: Yes, it is.

-It's got a black dot in the center of it. -What?

There is something I'd like to get your eyes on.

-TRAVIS: Whoa! What was that? -ERIK: There, there.

TRAVIS: That's the brightest thing in the sky.

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