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[Man]

We're on the set of Lisa Ann's

"Big Titted Cougars."

Whew. Shocker that I would

be in a cougar movie.

[Man]

What's the difference with

a cougar and a MILF?

My take is,

a cougar and a MILF:

MILF is supposed to be

a "mom that I'd like to fuck."

So I think that would

make you a mom, right?

I think a cougar is

the same older seductress,

but with no kids.

So I'm glad to say

I'm a cougar,

or I'm a MILF with no kids,

whatever you prefer.

[Lisa Ann]

I feel like if you can't

succeed in porn,

you kind of can't

succeed anywhere.

'Cause it's really

not that difficult.

It's a skill we all have.

You're fucking for a living.

People are like,

"How are you the best?"

Like, um, "I showed up

on time every time."

It's pretty hard

to fail out of porn,

but it seems like

everybody does it.

My last goal

in my retirement letter

was to write this book,

and it'll be

one year on Tuesday.

So I did reach

all of my goals.

This is it.

This is so exciting.

Whoa. Okay.

I don't want to hurt anything.

I'm gonna open it

very carefully.

Now, everyone, this is

so fucking dope.

[gasps]

Oh, look.

Oh!

My first two years

I was under contract

with a company called

Metro Home Video.

And being under contract

was an ideal situation for me

because I wanted

to feature dance.

Back then, when you were

the contract star,

they made these glamorous

posters and fliers for you,

and they gave you

as many as you wanted

to go out on the road

and use as marketing materials.

You know, in the '90's

when I started shooting,

I was unaware

that all of the movies

a contract girl shoots

are sold to cable,

and cable was still

a very big place where

these companies made money.

Cable didn't buy interracial.

So I was unable

to do interracial

when I was under contract.

People were telling me

all day long, like,

"If you do interracial,

it's going to ruin your career.

"No one's going to hire you

as a feature dancer.

You're going

to make less money."

I don't really think we should

be choosing color of skin

because we should be showing

everyone the sexual experiences

that we are having,

and, of course, if there's

couples that are interracial,

they might want

to watch interracial porn.

And for you to not put that

out for them, and they're

a fan of yours,

now they have

an opinion to form.

It's a mainly-- It's, of course,

a mainly white business,

all the company owners

and the agents,

and they all are

secretly racist.

So they all tell these girls

not to do this.

And then I'm the one

telling these girls,

"I've done more interracial than

regular scenes, and I'm good."

But it's a fear factor

for a young girl,

and of course, when you look up

to your agent, he's been

teaching you things,

you're gonna

believe what he says.

Then when they finally do

do interracial,

when they're not getting enough

work doing other things,

they get paid more money for it.

Going to the post office myself.

'Cause I want you all

to get your books.

And I want you to enjoy them.

And I want to hear

book reports, essays.

So, if you want to put

the boxes just down,

and I'll put 'em in.

I'll just have you photograph

me putting 'em in here.

Oh, shit. I just took a photo.

-[man chuckles]

-Of nothing.

All right.

How many do you think

I can put in at a time?

More than that.

Don't jam it up.

Don't jam it up.

These boxes took some getting

used to making, you know

what I mean?

Like, the first ten, there's

so much tape on them.

Then I got a system going,

you know.

What does that mean?

Is it stuck?

Is it full?

What do we do now?

Is there another one?

Yeah, the "Paylin" movie

pretty much single-handedly

changed my entire life.

So I have fans coming in

not because they're porn fans,

just 'cause they

thought that was hysterical.

I have people that, like,

walk up to me now places,

and they're like, "Right on,"

you know, "That was funny."

So it's just--

It broke a barrier for me.

[Man]

Did you expect it

when you first shot it?

Did you think

it was gonna go...

That big? No.

2008 I was on set

shooting a movie,

and during my downtime

I was checking my messages,

and it was Drew from Hustler,

and Drew said, "Hey,

"we want to shoot a movie

about Sarah Palin,

and we want to call it

"Nailin' Paylin."

"Who's Nailin' Paylin?"

which I thought was

a great name.

We want to use you,

you're perfect for it.

This is gonna kind of

be a big deal.

[doorbell rings]

Privyet.

We hate to trouble you,

but I'm afraid

we have a flat tire.

[wind blowing]

We were wondering

if we could use your phone

to call the Kremlin.

Oh, I'm sorry, fellas,

I don't speak Russian.

Kremlin. It means...

-How you say?

-Tow truck.

Well, in the spirit

of foreign relations,

I'm sure there's no harm in me

letting the two of you in.

Come on in.

You know, the business

lashed out at me.

Girls thought

I stole that scene

because someone else got

the phone call at my agency,

but I insisted I did it.

It was really weird

how when you get popular,

people who were

nice to you last week

just, like, venomously hate you

and are talking about you

behind your back.

And at that point I realized,

"Okay, well,

I'm gonna have this,

"this is gonna keep me

incredibly busy.

"Fuck all these people.

"I'm gonna be able

to charge more money.

"They already hate me.

I know my value.

I know what I'm selling.

I know what I'm doing."

When I went to strip clubs,

I now had

an older audience,

a younger audience,

a political audience,

a gay audience,

male audience, female audience.

My range was so incredible,

people walked up to me

everywhere and they're like,

"It's that Sarah Palin girl.

It's that Sarah Palin girl."

It was like, "This is it.

This next four or five years

could set up the rest

of my fucking life."

Like, it's go time.

We're gonna be on the road

every weekend.

We're gonna do

47 weekends a year.

We're gonna do

crazy personal appearances.

We're gonna do tons of PR.

Everyone was offering me

these opportunities, you know?

I remember getting invited

to go to a couple good nude

movie premieres,

getting to go to some events.

Those are great

photo opportunities for me.

And I knew that that is

the way to stay relevant,

to brand yourself

to different fans,

and to get yourself going

out there in a social scene,

in a different light

with your clothes on.

The more gigs I could do

where it wasn't just about me

fucking or being naked,

the more I could

cross-pollinate

and start to get into what was

gonna be my reality one day,

being dressed.

All these shows are on Sirius,

so Sirius will hit me up,

and one of the shows

will hit me up and say,

"Hey, so and so's coming

through. Can you make it over?"

'Cause they know

I'm that close.

So I just get a shower,

get dressed and go over.

These are opportunities for me

that are priceless, right?

And everyone just treats me

like, I'm part of the family

'cause I work there,

and I have my own name badges,

and they don't have to worry

about security at all.

And I feel like

this little job

has become the biggest

opportunity of my life.

Okay. I'm gonna put this

plan in motion.

It's gonna be a one-year plan.

I'm gonna produce

this many movies

so I have this much content

for my Web site once I retire.

I was starting

to plant the seeds

that I wanted a sports show.

I was already working for Sirius

at that time out here in LA

doing a very fun, sexy show

called "Stripper Town."

And by September 9th, 2013,

I started my very

first show with Sirius.

"Lisa Ann Does Fantasy." It was

my very first sports show.

You know, I said

to my girlfriend today, I was

explaining this to her,

and I said, "You know,

you have kids and I don't.

It's like being a proud parent.

"When you're watching fantasy

and one of your players does

what you expected,

"or even more

than you expected,

you feel like a proud parent."

[Man]

If a girl wants to get

into the adult business now,

what do you tell her?

Um, I'd talk with her

about why.

You know, is she getting into

the business 'cause she wants

to explore herself sexually?

She feels that she is more

unique than someone else?

Is she just

a paycheck performer?

If so, what is she looking

to do, big picture?

Because some girls think,

you know,

"I'm gonna work for a year

or two and make some money

and put it aside and then

I'll do something else."

And I'm like, "Yeah, you're not

doing something else.

You're gonna have at any

other job, someone's gonna

know what you've done."

You have to be done with

the business before the business

is done with you.

And, to many people,

I've seen the business

be done with them

before they were ready,

and it's devastating.

Since I retired,

I made a promise

that I would read

at least one book a week.

And I feel like my brain

was starting to go to mush

because it was so easy to be

the most successful porn star

in the business

because all I had to do

was follow some really

basic instructions.

I don't think I could ever

walk away from being

Lisa Ann the porn star.

I don't think there's a country

that I could move to

where it would be possible.

I have to accept

that what I put out there,

and the amount of years

that I put it out there,

and the willingness

that I put it out there,

there's something to accept

in return for the security

that I've given myself,

the way that I've been able

to live, the adventures

that I've had.

The sidebar is, sure,

everyone knows who I am,

and everyone feels

comfortable to approach me.

You gotta understand something.

There's a comfort when a guy

sees me that's much different

than when he sees a football

player or basketball player.

He has masturbated to me.

When he looks at me,

and we make eye contact,

and that twinkle happens,

and he remembers

all those moments,

it's a feeling,

it's an adrenaline rush,

it's a thing, right?

I have to be so aware

that I put it out there.

Who would I be to say,

"No, I don't want any of you

to talk about this anymore.

I want this to go away.

I'm no longer her."

I'm still her.

I was naked.

There's no shield

I was wearing that

covered me from being me.

And I used my real name,

so, you know.

[lively chattering]

[Woman]

I am in porn, yes,

but I'm also in

the transgender industry,

which is a very small niche.

So in order for one to be able

to excel and have an exit plan,

you have to produce,

you have to direct.

You have to take control

of your own brand

and be able to dictate

your own future.

So, with that said,

that's why I've worked so hard

to get these accolades

and be able to brand myself

as a top performer.

And eventually

be able to develop

my own modeling agency,

and get in and get out, right?

And have a family of my own.

So, I'm 25 now,

so I got a couple

more years to go

before I definitely want

to have children of my own.

[film reel whirring]

[Woman]

If I had my life to live over...

[Man]

It's out of the question.

Oh, I know.

But I'm just saying, if I did

have my life to live over--

What would you do?

I would live a life filled...

engulfed...

consumed...

by lust.

-You would?

-Yes.

Engulfed?

Consumed.

With lust?

Yes.

What the hell, why not?

There's little enough

to do around here.

It'll break the monotony.

Oh, can I?

Just for a short time.

Agreed.

I'll be watching you.

As soon as I feel

that you've had enough,

I'll call you back,

and no nonsense.

Oh, agreed.

When can I start?

Now.

Just walk through that door.

[Spelvin]

I was ready for anything

by the time I went to New York.

I signed on to do the commissary

for "Devil in Miss Jones."

So when I went up there to get

the money to buy the food,

Jerry says,

"I got a guy coming in to read

for the devil in this film.

"would you mind

reading opposite him?

"Have you ever had

any acting experience?"

I said, "Oh, yes."

I was an actress.

"I'm an actress."

And he said, "Would you mind

reading with him?"

"Of course not."

So I sat down,

we read the scene.

And I'm chewing up the script,

you know, I'm having

a great time with this.

And after the guy leaves,

he leans over,

he said,

"Would you like

to play the role?"

A lead role in a real movie?

Well, I guess so.

I said, "Can I cook too?"

He said, "Yeah."

He said, "I'll pay you

100 a day for acting,

and 45 a day to cook."

That was a killing for us

in those days, let me tell you.

So we went toddling out

to some place in New Jersey.

And so help me, Your Honor,

I think it was New Jersey.

It could have been New York.

I have no idea where it was.

It was a big old deserted farm,

with a big old barn.

And they moved the film

equipment into the barn,

and we lived in the barn,

and we shot in the barn,

and we got in the cars

and we went home.

And that's how I did

"The Devil in Miss Jones."

I have no idea why

"The Devil in Miss Jones,"

a fuck film, let's face it,

a porno, a pornographic film,

resonated as it did

with such a great range of

American society of that time.

But for some reason, boy,

it just splashed over

into something that Judith Crist

dubbed "porn chic."

If you touch me, I can get off.

We'll get off together.

[panting]

If you just...

just put your cock in me.

Would you like to put

your cock in me?

Then we can get off.

[laughs]

People were going as couples

to see hardcore

pornographic films,

to see sex films.

I mean, nice couples.

At the time, I had no idea

that anyone I knew,

much less anyone that

I was related to

would ever see this film.

And, um, they did.

[chuckles]

And I had to say,

"Yeah, that was me."

"Yes, brother dear,

that was your sister."

It was a moment of truth

in my life.

And I said,

"How's Mom taking it?"

And he said,

"Well, you know Mom.

She rolls with any punch

that comes her way,"

and she did, you know.

Uh, she never said

"I forgive you."

But she almost said,

"I understand" before she died.

I didn't exactly

exit the business.

The business

kind of exited me.

Every film I made was the last

film I was ever gonna do.

I never sought out the films.

People would call me and ask me

if I would work, if I was busy.

And I usually would say,

"Well, I don't really want to,

but okay, one more."

So I got this very good job,

and it was a nine-to-five job

and took up my time.

Now and then I would

get a call to do a film,

and I would take

a week's vacation

and run off and do a film.

And one day, my boss

called me in and said,

"Are you going off

to do one of those films?"

And I said, "Well, yeah."

He said, "It's been brought

to my attention

"that some of the board

of directors are aware

that you have done

some of these films."

And I said, "This is

the last one, I promise."

He said, "Oh, okay.

I'll tell them that."

And it was.

[laughs]

I don't know what

today's adult films are.

I presume

it's all on the Web.

Or on video tape

or cassettes or some media.

I doubt if there are

what we used to call

the "stroke houses"

around anymore.

[laughs]

You know, when you bought

the popcorn box

and took the bottom out

and dumped the popcorn.

[man laughing]

Or you brought a top hat.

[both laughing]

By and large,

it's been a delightful trip.

I now and then

get the feeling,

yeah, there's probably a big

waterfall somewhere

there in the distance.

I can kind of hear it

rumbling now and then,

but what am I gonna

do about it?

The things I am

most grateful for

are having met

the love of my life--

not everybody gets to do that--

and having not only met

the love of my life,

having him feel

the same way about me,

so that we could

build a life together

in this absolutely

delightful little paradise

that we get to call home,

here under the glorious

Hollywood sign.

In my world-- I'm also

a psychic reader for a living--

so, we don't have time lines

because time is infinite

in my world.

So there's no exit or entrance.

It's just all a big giant

conglomeration of joy and love.

So, no, I don't have

an answer to that question.

But I plan to dance, perform,

dance with snakes and play,

until I feel

that my heart tells me

to do something different.

So, it could be infinite,

it could be tomorrow,

it could be yesterday,

it could be

five years from now,

it could be a month.

Oh, see? Darren James.

Right now we have

a beautiful lady.

Back up a little bit

and take a look at her.

Look at this body.

What's your name?

-Lara.

-Lara.

What's your age?

Um, 19?

19. I like that.

[Broadcaster 1]

And HIV scare has reportedly

shut down the porn industry

after Darren James

contracted the virus

after returning to the US,

after filming in Brazil.

[Broadcaster 2]

It was discovered

that three actresses

who had worked with James

shortly after his return

to the United States

had also become infected.

[Broadcaster 3]

A week later, he turned up

at a San Diego County hospital

recovering from

an apparent suicide attempt.

[Broadcaster 4]

He's a middle-aged

black porn actor

who wanted to be a policeman.

[James]

This is not going to be

a tragedy for me.

It's a beginning.

You got a reason to be here.

You're gonna have

to figure that out.

I guess I was too old

and ugly to die,

but I've survived,

and I came back.

[playing

"The Star-Spangled Banner"]

I'm from Detroit.

And I started years ago,

the United States Navy, 1982.

Being a Seabee, it taught me

a lot about... team,

just being a team.

Tours all over the world.

And when I was in Puerto Rico,

I met some Navy SEALs

at the time,

'cause we had a training camp

right next to those guys.

And those guys

just broke me in.

I mean, they educated me

about myself, my life.

It was like a brotherhood.

And it taught me something.

Far as where I'm at now,

it's like...

I can't leave my brothers

that were in the porn

industry behind.

That's why I speak about,

you know,

being with the condoms issue

and everything else.

And just trying my best

to back these guys up.

Congratulations, recruit.

-Good job.

-Thank you, sir.

Congratulations, recruit.

Thank you.

Good job.

Mmm.

Then, when you get on

the outside, it's like,

"Wait a minute.

"This was reality.

I need a job."

I fell into the porn industry

and it was just

one gig after another.

-[rapid gunfire]

-[plane engines roaring]

Around the time

when I was working,

I couldn't recall

if I got it there.

I couldn't even tell you if

I got it before I left.

We just don't know

'cause I worked so much

at that period of time

when I was infected.

But I remember I wasn't feeling

as hot when I got to Brazil

at this one particular

time I was working.

We were doing a huge orgy.

It was probably my

second orgy when I got there.

I was so tired and exhausted.

I thought it was

just I was overworked.

Learning how this virus works,

that's probably at the time

where I was probably infected

and didn't even know.

It's hard to conclude

and come to a conclusion

where I got it.

That's the problem.

That's the gray area.

I just-- You know,

if I had a condom,

this probably

wouldn't have happened.

Period. This probably

wouldn't have happened.

You know, I'm not thinking

this stuff would ever happen.

The porn industry, this would

never-- I would never get this.

But the way my

career ended was

my family was in the church.

I get diagnosed, same time,

it's all over

the news in Detroit.

So people

finding out right there.

But for some reason,

the church

was smart enough--

I haven't seen these

people in years--

now keep in mind,

I was gone for years.

I've been gone from home,

and these people

protected me even then.

They stood up for me

even then.

I didn't know

till I heard later.

They stood up by me even then.

If it wasn't for the individuals

I've met in my past,

I still had that memory, like,

all these Navy SEALs that I met

or military guys that I met

that did martial arts.

They groomed me.

I just brought that back.

Brought that back home

and just got off my ass.

Got off the couch one day.

Get back in the gym.

'Cause, you know, I can't

help nobody if I ain't

helping myself.

'Cause being a public speaker,

you gotta be able to back up

what you're preaching.

You know, they don't want

to look at somebody

that's all falling apart,

typical stigma

of being a positive.

"Oh, this guy looks sickly."

Fuck that.

You know, I gotta do it, man.

You gotta get out

and do something.

You know? And keep giving.

As much as I can

while I still got time

on the clock.

And I got a lot more work

to do. You know?

Who knows?

Maybe somebody will see me,

and just do the same to help

somebody else, that's all.

-Help, that bar?

-Yup.

Rich Piano showed me that.

Just do the quick shit.

[laughing]

[James]

A lot of times when

you've diagnosed,

people, you know,

we get in denial.

I've been there.

You don't wanna do nothing.

Ah, just give up.

You can't.

Just like cancer, any kind

of illness that you get,

man, you gotta get up

and move on.

You get better by doing

something for yourself,

you know?

I'll tell anybody else,

we all survivors

when it comes to this.

You know, this is not

gonna be a tragedy for me.

It's a beginning.

I regret that

I didn't get out at the time

when I was supposed to.

'Cause there was one period

I did get out. I quit.

I just didn't want to do it.

You know, my morals kicked in.

And then somebody called me back

with a decent budget.

And we could probably

get you in a contract.

I jumped on it.

I should have got out.

That's what I regret.

I didn't make that move.

Far as anything else, I miss

the travels and the people.

Behind the scenes, the crew.

You know, I met some really

interesting people that

opened my eyes.

There is good people

in the industry.

There is a lot

of good people.

But you can't talk, you know?

You go against

the grain, you're out.

That was their income.

Like anybody else, we're

all making a living.

But being able to stand up

against that,

the first one in history

to stand up against...

I think to go so hardcore

against the industry,

to show that they had some

things that were wrong

and then address it...

I don't regret that.

Because you can't save

everybody, but I can try.

They're not gonna like it,

but I'll keep trying.

In California, there is

a push right now,

primarily from one organization,

to try and force performers

to wear condoms

amongst other safety gear,

at all times.

And the truth of the matter is

there are negative

effects of condoms.

But we're not allowed

to talk about them

because it's so difficult

to get people to use them

in the first place.

You can imagine that's not

a very popular topic.

The truth of the matter is

when people use condoms,

as compared

to not using condoms,

it's been tested with people

within the same partner,

that condom use does

increase the presence

of three different types

of bacteria, at least,

in the vagina,

and also causes erythema,

or a reddening in the vulva,

which is consistent

with more tearing.

So if the performers

are testing,

and they know

that they're clean,

by using condoms,

they're probably

increasing their risk

of bacterial infection.

So they actually have a really

good ground to argue against

the use of condoms,

especially in the context,

in the way that

they're using them.

Because there is some associated

increased risk with it.

However, you can

imagine the knee-jerk

to that kind of response.

Especially, you know, I work

with a lot of HIV researchers.

We do not want

to have this conversation.

Just because it's so difficult

to get people who aren't being

tested like the performers are

to use condoms

in the first place.

We would hate

to discourage their use

amongst those type of folks.

But I think amongst performers,

it's probably very reasonable

to let them make that decision.

This painting is the quickest

painting I've ever done.

My boyfriend and I were--

You know how you get in

little spats, little fights?

We were fighting

and I went to bed,

and I couldn't sleep.

I was furious with him.

And I got up, it was

three o'clock in the morning,

and I came down and I grabbed

my biggest canvas that I had,

and just let it all out.

That's how most

of my paintings go.

You know, I don't have any

training, it's just what I feel.

So, this one

is called "Mad Love."

[laughs]

And it's actually

one of my favorites.

Grr. Arf. Arf.

Give it up.

[Ginger Lynn]

I'm originally from

Rockford, Illinois.

And there are two things

that came out of Rockford

that are famous.

Cheap Trick, and Ginger Lynn.

[rock music playing]

Porn, it had gone from

the place where

you sat in a theater

in your raincoat and jerked off

to you bought a VCR, and you

got a Ginger Lynn movie.

I was one of the first girls

that didn't look like

I did what I did.

I became

so well known so quickly.

A lot of mainstream actors

knew who I was.

They were as excited to meet me

as I was to meet them.

I was, you know,

their first porn.

-In the '80s when it was

cool to be a porn star...

-[Man] Yeah.

...and celebrities

wanted to meet you,

I went to lunch

with my attorney,

and Milton Berle...

I'm 21 years old,

I'm sitting in

this old Hollywood,

dark wood,

red leather seat restaurant,

and I'm in between

my attorney and Milton Berle,

and Milton Berle unzips his

pants and whips his dick out.

Just whips it right out

in the restaurant

right in front of me.

And I'm trying

to maintain eye contact,

but it's very difficult.

I kept looking down at it.

He never tried anything,

didn't try to touch me,

didn't play with it,

he just whipped it out

and let it hang the whole

dinner-- the whole lunch.

[Man]

Are the stories true?

Oh, it's huge! It's huge!

He would give John Holmes

a run for the money.

Big, huge, honkin' dick.

[laughs]

I started my adult film career

December 9th, 1983.

I turned 21 five days later

on December 14th.

I filmed until

February 11th 1986.

But the thing I remember

about that last day--

It was a couple weeks

before I quit,

I woke up,

and most days I would

wake up and go,

"Yes! I'm going to have

sex with this person today!

"I'm gonna fuck that person,

eat this pussy,"

and I would be so excited.

I woke up this

one particular morning

and I said to myself,

I don't want to fuck today.

I'm done."

So, I was under contract

with Vivid Video at the time.

I went into Vivid and said,

you know,

I talked to the owner and said,

"My head's not in the right

place and I can't do this."

He said, "Cool, I understand.

"Is there any way

that you could finish

"your last two

films under contract?"

And I said yes.

And February 11th,

I came home,

and my boyfriend

had taken our bathtub

and filled it with gallons

and gallons and gallons of milk

and white rose petals.

And I had a cleansing bath that

I was done with the business.

And there was something

really romantic about that.

It was like,

it really was a cleansing.

And not that there's anything

bad about what I did,

but I was moving on

to another phase of my life.

When I quit, I didn't think

about the big picture.

What am I gonna do next?

I owned a house

in Beverly Hills.

I had a mortgage to pay.

I guess I would say yes,

I did always want to be in

the entertainment business

without really realizing it.

And I am now.

So I broke into

the mainstream arena.

I worked on dozens of films.

I've got a new film coming out

called "Lost Souls."

-Oh, wow.

-Should be out for Halloween.

Another film.

I have a very small role in

the Coen Brothers new film

"The Big Lebowski."

-What else?

-Oh, wow.

"Wing Commander: Prophecy"

with Mark Hamill

will be out for Christmas.

And "God's Lonely Man"

with Justine Bateman

will be out soon.

Wow!

This is gonna sound awful.

I was having really shitty sex.

I couldn't find a lover

that could satisfy me

to save my life for years.

I just wanted

to get fucked good.

I just really wanted--

I wanted to have sex with girls.

I wanted to get fucked by boys.

I wanted to--

I wanted good sex.

So I went to Vivid,

I went to Wicked,

and I went to VCA,

and made exorbitant requests.

Making a comeback,

this is what I want.

Get all three of the companies,

made me an offer,

and I decided

to go with VCA.

And there's a film I did

called "Taken."

The director was Veronica Hart.

She came to me and she said,

"Ginger, you know, I just don't

think this is gonna happen.

"And I think you're the only

actress that can pull this off.

"I want to make it into a porn,

and I want you

to be the star in it."

I won best actress for

that film that year.

And it's the only

best actress award I've won

that I thought I deserved.

I'd become an actress.

A lot of people

that get into porn,

there is no life after porn.

They don't know

what to do with themselves.

And if you're known as

a sex object your whole life

and sex is all you know,

where do you go?

How do you apply for a job?

You know, I've been fucking

on film for the last 30 years?

And it's important that you

think about your future.

You think about what's

going to happen afterwards.

I've been really lucky with--

you know,

I started three Web sites

as well as doing my paintings

and everything,

I have my auction site.

Ginger Lynn Auctions dot com,

Ginger Lynn dot com,

and my art site, which is

Ginger Lynn Art dot com.

So I've always got a lot

of different eggs in the basket

and things to fall back on.

'Cause it scares me.

You know, I don't want to be 60

and have nothing to show

what I've worked for.

I did a half-a-dozen films

in, like, 2005.

I wouldn't recommend anybody

get into the business today.

I just wouldn't.

It's changed so much.

I had been cast on a film,

and there was somebody else

doing a scene before me,

very famous, very well known

actress in the business,

good friend of mine.

And she was

sitting on the sofa,

and there was her costar

on the other end of the sofa.

This is before filming.

I used to get in trouble

on every single set.

Once my makeup was done,

I'm on you.

I'd be sucking your dick,

I'd be kissing you, you know,

and then have to redo my makeup.

I'd get in trouble all the time

because I wanted to be there.

These two people sat

on opposite ends of the sofa

on their phones.

And then they called, you know,

"We're ready for you on set,"

and they just went and fucked.

There was no connection,

no nothing.

Sex is such

an intimate thing, for me,

that I have to like you

to fuck you.

I have to want

to be with you.

I want that buildup,

that anticipation,

that "I can't wait."

You know?

If you're in an industry

that's that intimate,

you need to love

what you're doing.

I always have said

if you call me a whore,

I'll, like, want to punch you.

You can call me

a slut all day long.

I like to fuck, and I've

fucked a lot of people.

But I've never been a whore.

And if I worked at McDonald's

and didn't like it,

I'd be a whore.

It doesn't necessarily

have to do with sex.

Doing something

you don't want to for money

is a whore in my opinion.

A lot of the women

in the adult film industry

completely separate their porn

lives from their personal lives.

They don't mix,

they have different names.

And they turn their porn star

on and off as needed.

What I've chosen to do--

I don't know if I chose it

or it just happened--

is I brought Ginger--

Ginger Lynn Allen-- to the set.

Everything that you see me

do on film is me.

My energy, my bubbles,

my enthusiasm.

That's who I am. There is no

Ginger Lynn and Ginger Allen.

They're the same person.

I have porn star Tourette's.

I say things I shouldn't say

when I shouldn't say them.

I own every choice

that I've ever made.

I'm not ashamed

of anything I've done.

I have lived

an amazing life.

I have absolutely no regrets.

And I like Ginger Lynn.

And I like Ginger Allen.

Because they're the same person.

[rock music playing]

[camera shutters clicking]

[noisy chattering]

Um, I got in because I wanted

to try something new.

'Cause, you know, I'm just,

like, a college student.

Going to classes, working.

That whole, like, life,

trying to barely live.

And so I was like,

"Yeah, I'm gonna do porn.

"I like sex.

Why not? Fuck it."

So I got into it,

and like, I really

love it so far.

I'm still in school, you know.

My major is business,

so once I graduate I'm gonna

go into real estate.

So if I'm still doing porn then,

like, yeah, whatever, side job.

But like, you know.

That's what I'm, like,

going in for right now.

[chuckles]

[film reel whirring]

I'm Johnnie Keyes, man.

Who are you?

[rock music playing]

[woman moaning]

[Woman]

Are we in heaven?

Baby, you're in the back seat

of a Cadillac Brougham.

That's as close to heaven

as you're gonna get.

[Keyes]

The most happiest

I am on this planet:

hugging my son or granddaughter,

singing jazz,

and getting all

the pussy I can get.

That's it.

I was raised

during the '40s and '50s

when this country

was a different place,

when the Italians

used to call me a "jig,"

which is

the guy dancing, right?

I was raised in the ghetto,

where poor people was, right?

You know. Catholic school,

all that.

But I always

wanted to be a singer.

♪ A-one, two,

a-one, two, three, four ♪

[Keyes]

I was always singing on

the corner with my boys,

you know, doing copies

of all the hit music,

Little Richard

and all those guys.

♪ I'm the only

other one you see ♪

♪ Gotta give it a chance

to rock her world tonight ♪

♪ Ow-woo! ♪

[Keyes]

I was a happy teenager except

when I was at home, all right.

When I turned 16 years old,

I packed my shit and I left,

to get out of that situation.

My dad was alcoholic. He used

to beat women and beat me,

and I had to get out of that.

Hmm.

[voice breaking]

And...

And it's like,

this motherfucker, my dad,

he fucking didn't

know what love was.

He didn't know

about that, you know?

And I can't blame him

'cause how he was raised.

He was raised during slavery.

I can understand that.

But I couldn't understand

how could he beat his boy?

How could he beat

his fucking son?

And I said, "I gotta go.

I gotta get out of here,"

so I left home.

Geez, can I get

a napkin? Fuck.

You know, every time I talk

about that, it fucks me up.

I had to leave. I got out.

So, I joined the Army,

and I became

the boxing champion,

the lightweight

champion of the world.

The United States Army

sent me to 37 countries.

And all I did was

kick ass and take names

'cause I had a lot of anger.

And so when I would get in

the ring with another opponent,

he had no chance.

[sultry jazz music playing]

When I got

into the "Green Door."

I got in

the "Green Door" like

I stumbled over it

backwards falling, right?

"The Green Door,"

when I did that movie.

Now, when the people came

to me with the "Green Door,"

here's what happened.

So we went down there. It was

the Mitchell Brothers theatre

who produced the "Green Door."

I went down there, I did

the audition and everything.

And then when they came

back to me, they said,

"Well, listen man,

we're making an erotic film."

I went, "What do you

mean, erotic?"

"A fuck movie."

I go, "Oh, yeah. Okay, cool."

Jim Mitchell, Art Mitchell,

they're upstairs,

over at the O'Farrell Theatre.

They go, "Johnnie,

"you're gonna be

the man behind the door,

and you're gonna

have a sex scene

with Marilyn Chambers."

So, I go, "Okay. All right."

So, they bring me

out at the end.

She's 20 years old,

looking like a little

fresh white flower, right?

I'm going, "Yeah, right."

Now, come the day

of the shoot, right,

and the Mitchell Brothers had

a whole other thing set up.

I said, "Hold it, man."

Being a thespian myself,

I go, "Hold it.

"Here's what I'm gonna do.

Here's how I'm gonna

do the shot.

"I'm gonna have my

African necklace on, right,

"and when I walk

from behind the green door,

"there's women there

and they're trying to touch me,

but I'm not gonna let them

touch me 'cause I'm focused."

And Marilyn Chambers is

lying out there like this.

My eye is focused on that

muffin, right? You know

what I'm saying?

So, I'm looking at that.

And now, when we start

doing the sex scene,

I eat her pussy, and then

I start fucking her, right?

But being an athlete,

I fucked Marilyn for 43 minutes

without stopping,

and the last time she came,

she fainted.

And I'm looking

down at this woman,

her eyes rolled in

the back of her head,

and I went,

"What the hell?

"I done killed a white woman,

I'm going to jail.

I killed a white woman with

my dick! What the fuck?"

This is what's going on

in my brain

as I'm looking down at her,

and she's like...

"Eh," right?

So, they said, "Okay, Johnnie.

"Get back up off the pussy

and walk back through

the green door."

They pick Marilyn up

and bring her over on the side

and put smelling salts

in her nose and shit

to bring her around.

I bend down, I go,

"Marilyn, are you all right?"

And she looked at me, she goes,

"Oh, Johnnie, oh..."

She says, "Oh, Johnnie." I go...

I go, "What happened?"

She says, "I don't know."

She says, "I came and then

I went somewhere."

And I go, "Jesus Christ!"

So now, I'm back on Broadway

doing "Jesus Christ Superstar."

I get a call.

"Hey, Johnnie, what's up?

"How you doing? Yeah."

from the Mitchell Brothers.

They say, "You know

you're the star of this movie."

I go, "What you talking

about, man?"

I said, "I'm in theater,

I'm doing legitimate theater.

I'm not no porno star."

They go,

"Yes, you are."

I go, "What are

you talking about?"

They go, "We got a $50,000 check

waiting for you,

"and you gotta go

to Cannes Film Festival

because they're

dying to meet you."

And I went, "How much?

50,000? Okay."

[cash register dings]

So that made the myth of

the black dude with the big dick

in white society,

it made it real.

It made it real for society,

and they went, "What?"

I get off the plane, man,

and women are throwing

their panties and their keys,

and everything. "Oh, Johnnie!"

Our pavilion was

going 24 hours.

Everybody was staying

open like, eight hours.

"The Green Door"

was going 24/7.

So I get the award for

the best erotic film ever shot

and all that stuff.

And I come back home

to the United States,

and I figure that's it, right?

I figure, "Okay,

I'm finished with that."

But then all

this stuff happened.

They want me

to come to New York,

they want me

to come to Detroit

to do all these openings

for "the Green Door"

where I'm sitting

and signing autographs.

That whole deal, right?

That was cool.

Then after that me and Marilyn

did two more movies together.

"Inside Marilyn Chambers,"

and her

"Resurrection of Eve."

Later on, when I used to go

to the erotic film awards,

all the brothers would see me,

they'd go like this.

[laughs]

'Cause if it weren't for me,

they wouldn't be there.

I opened the door for them.

Which was cool.

At the time I didn't

know what I was doing.

I was just

doing what I was doing.

I was doing this shot

for the Mitchell Brothers

in a theater

down on Market Street,

Market Street

in San Francisco.

I was doing a reenactment

of "the Green Door"

for a live audience.

Meanwhile, they got

seven cops in the audience.

And when I pull out my dick

and go to do it,

they all, cops just came in

and busted me. Took me to jail.

Of course the Mitchells got me

out insto-presto.

But then I went

before the court.

So we had to moved it up

to the California Supreme Court.

Fornication in a public place,

that was the charge.

And I said, "Man, I'm not

sticking my dick in these women.

I'm moving it to the side.

It's a play-act thing."

'Course, you know, those cops,

those motherfuckers. [laughs]

So, I go before

the Supreme Court.

So, they call me up

and they go,

"Okay, Johnnie, what you

got to say?"

All these old men with their

gray hair and their soft dicks.

So, I go, "Would you rather

for your children

"to see people cut each other

up, blow each other up,

"kill each other,

"or would you rather

for your children to see

"people hugging and kissing

and making love?

Which would you rather

for your children to see?"

Of course, they can't say.

They gotta say the latter,

the hugging and the kissing.

And my testimony helped change

the sexual mores

of this country.

It made it legal for human

beings to go to a store

and rent

an X-rated movie legally.

And I helped make that thing

a reality in this country.

So, I freed a lot

of dicks and pussies.

That's how I feel

about it. Know what I mean?

Real talk. That's real talk.

Years ago, I did a play on

Broadway called "The Wiz,"

and that's the black production

of "The Wizard of Oz"

if you people don't know.

One night,

the lead singer in the show

had laryngitis.

And the producers came,

"Johnnie, can you

sing 'Over the Rainbow'?

"Because she can't sing it."

And I had never did

"Over the Rainbow"

'cause that wasn't

my part of the show.

'Cause I was

the Tin Man, right?

So, I go, "Okay,

yeah, I'll try it."

And so this is

the way I did it.

[piano playing melody]

♪ Somewhere over the rainbow ♪

[Keyes]

So, then after that I had a son.

And you know what happens

to men when they have boys.

Right?

This woman ran off with my boy.

See, I had taught school.

Like, I said,

Robin Williams was one

of my students and people.

She says, "You got a PhD.

"Go teach school. You don't need

to be making these fuck movies."

I said, "Let me tell you,

when I met you

I was making fuck movies.

"That's the reason

why you came to me,

"'cause you wanted

that big dick, bitch.

"So don't be telling me

about, you know,

"you want to change my life?

"You gonna come into my life now

and try to change me?"

I said,

"You don't have

that power, woman."

So, the first thing she did

was snatch my son

and take him away from me,

which broke my heart.

And that's when I went

and came up to Washington

to raise my boy.

And I raised my boy,

he became a Globetrotter.

He became one of the top

athletes in Washington.

So, I'm proud of that.

I talked to him

last night, right?

He said, "Listen,

"all the motherfuckers

gotta go to the Wikipedia

and they see you.

"And they know I'm your son."

He said, "So you don't have

to do it no more, Pops."

He said, "Pops, you don't

have to do that no more."

He said, "'Cause you are

what you are,

"and I am what I am,

"and no matter whatever

comes out in the wash,

we're beautiful."

That's my boy

telling me.

♪ Where trouble melts

like lemon drops ♪

I'm not saying I want

to exit porn.

I love porn for what it is

and how it can develop.

and I'm really into, like,

pushing the boundaries

of future porn,

of, like, I don't know,

technologies and stuff.

I'm really into, like,

virtual reality porn

and stuff like that

at the moment.

So, yeah, I'm happy

with what I'm doing,

but eventually I want

to direct and produce films.

And basically

push the boundaries

of what's out there at

the moment technology-wise.

You know? I'm doing a bit with

360 video work at the moment,

just testing and stuff.

And hopefully, I think,

that's got a lot of prospect.

But, yeah, porn's

one of them worlds, man.

It's ever-evolving

and, you know,

all the new technologies

are always found,

and some come and some go.

And I'm just grateful

to be where I am

and kind of progressing

with it, you know what I mean?

So, hopefully one day,

I'll be able to direct

and produce films

and find another

big dick kid like me

and change his life, man.

That's all I want to do.

[electronic music playing]

[Brittany Andrews]

What's the difference between

a boy toy, a slave,

and a fuck buddy

and a boyfriend?

I've actually had

to try to explain this

to my shrinks before.

[laughs]

Slave boys, they enjoy

the fetter side of things.

Fuck buddies are people that

would be boyfriends

if they were better.

[laughs]

And then boyfriends are people

that you have,

you know, spiritual, sexual,

emotional relationships with,

and, you know, you're

intimate and vulnerable,

and all of that

kind of fun stuff.

And the boy toys are just

supposed to shut the fuck up,

be cute and pretty and do

as mistress mommy tells them to.

I always wanted a smooth-running

machine of a business,

like that was

always my goal.

I remember, like,

asking people, like,

"How do you get into porn?

How do you get into porn?"

And then I ended up

doing a photo shoot

with High Society

and Cherry Magazine in Jamaica.

And who was my roommate?

Jenna Jameson was.

So, she's like,

"You need to move to LA

and live with me,

and I'll hook you up."

And, you know, I was taking

care of my mother at that time.

And I told my mom

that we were

gonna be moving

to Hollywood, Florida.

So I'm in Jamaica

and I call my mom up,

and I'm like, "Mom,

we're moving to Hollywood!"

And she's like, "Yeah, I know."

I'm like, "Scratch."

[laughs]

"Hollywood, California."

She's like, "What?"

I was 23 and I decided

to open up,

you know,

a 5,000 square-foot studio,

make it a rental facility.

And I started

right after that

my first Web site

and then, you know,

decided to do a whole

network of them

and all different

kinds of fetishes.

It was called

"The Niche Bitch."

I had the Niche Bitch network.

And it went from there.

Then the whole gonzo thing

kind of started

when you started having, like,

digital cameras.

And everybody else

used to call it,

um, the actual civilian

term for it... [laughs]--

"civilian" meaning you people--

...um, non porn stars,

uh, it was called Pro-Am.

Which really all it meant was

there was a bunch of idiots

that used to be porn stars

that had picked up a camera,

myself included...

[laughs]

...but mostly it was all guys.

Because, once again, it was

a very, very

boys' school business

back then.

I mean, it was all Italian mafia

that did distribution,

and it was all Jewish mafia

that did production,

and women were not allowed

to kind of get in there,

especially distribution,

you know.

So, but anyways,

there was a film,

I think it was called "Erocity,"

where I was raping

the fuck out of this

guy's ass in my dungeon,

and it was really hilarious

because I broke

my discipline horse.

And I just kept pounding that

motherfucker into the ground.

And it was so funny

'cause the director

afterwards was like,

"You didn't miss a beat."

[laughs]

And I'd always have, you know,

these soirée affairs,

and I'd have a curator with

all these fetish kind of art,

and I'd have these

custom-made outfits,

and I'd have an open bar.

And then, you know, I'd be

double-fisting somebody

in the dungeon downstairs.

And, you know, my mom

would be upstairs,

and she's like,

"I'm so proud of my daughter."

And they're like, "Do you know

what she's doing downstairs?"

"I don't care. I'm just

very proud of her."

[laughs]

I know I'm hypocritical

'cause I'm a dominatrix

and I beat the shit

out of men,

but I just feel like it's

appropriate doing it to a man

but not a woman.

Call me cray-cray,

it's the feminist in me.

-Sam?

-Yeah?

How about you come over here

and sit besides me on this couch

and show me some of that

Sam Slate private dick?

Thought you'd never ask me.

[both moaning]

I feel like now

when I watch porn,

it's like, you know,

fucking her in the ass,

and choking her

and, you know,

having as many cocks

as you possibly can,

and it's all this spit

and put her head in the toilet.

And I am not down

with that program.

So when I had

originally retired,

because all porn stars, we come

back and we... [laughs]

That's what we do,

we leave and we come back.

But when I originally retired,

I had no problem doing it

because the business that I knew

where you actually had sex,

like, on beds and desks,

and, you know, and it was like,

you were having sex.

It was, like, good.

[laughs]

Now, oh my God, I need to do

a sitz bath afterwards.

I mean, they freaking kill you.

It's like, it's all about

pounding you into the next room,

and choking you.

They don't do

that shit to me.

Because I will turn around

and clock the motherfucker.

'Cause I am a dominant woman

and I'm older.

Respect your elders, beyotch.

[laughs]

I had been retired

for quite a few years

and a director

contacted me,

not knowing that I had

been retired.

And he's like, "Oh, you know,

I was wondering, you know,

"I had a scene that I

wanted you to be in."

[chuckles]

And I was like, "Okay, well,

what's the name of the film?"

And he's like, "Golden Girls."

I'm like,

"You're a fucking jerkoff!"

Dude calls me back, like,

a year later and he goes,

"I got your comeback film."

I'm like, "Get the fuck

outta here. [laughs]

Didn't think I'd be hearing

from you again," and...

Do you want a piece

of me, you little bitch?

What?

"Sex and the City,"

I want you to play Samantha.

I'm like,

"Dude, I like you, man."

So, I got to do

that particular movie,

and I had realized

it had been a while

since I'd been on camera.

I had maybe done, like, two

anal scenes in my entire life.

So I said I would

do an anal scene.

But I'm not a pro at this.

God bless all of the men

out there that think that,

you know, there's not a lot

of preparation that

goes into this.

Let me tell you something,

there... there needs to be.

Oh, you dirty, naughty boy.

-You wanna fuck my ass?

-Yeah, I wanna fuck that ass.

Oh, yeah.

Shove that big cock in my ass.

It's like, 10:00 a.m.

and you're having, like,

a 20-inch cock shoved

into your ass, right?

And, you know, I haven't had

anything in my own booty

for, like, a long time.

I'm in the bathroom

talking to a girlfriend of mine.

"Allison, something

happened to my ass."

She's like, "What are

you talking about?"

I'm like, "There's something

wrong with my ass."

She's like, "What are

you talking about?"

I'm like, "No, there's

really something, like,

"like, I think my ass

flipped inside out or-- Yeah."

And she's like,

"What are you talking--"

I'm like...

(whining) "Something's

wrong with my ass."

And so, sure enough,

I go back on set, you know,

and I'm like, got my legs

together and I'm scooting in,

and they're like,

"Uh, are you okay?"

And I'm like, "Um...

Something happened to my ass."

And they're like,

"Oh, not a big deal.

You're just rosebudding it."

I'm like,

"What is rosebudding it?"

And they're like, "Well,

it's when you have a prolapse,

"you know, like,

your ass, like, prolapsed.

"It flips inside out." Right?

And I'm like,

"Oh, no, this is not good."

They're like,

"Oh, don't worry about it.

"There's like a ton of girls

in the industry

"that have permanent rosebud.

"There's like a whole prolapse

fetish genre of film."

And I'm like, "No..."

The next time

I did an anal scene,

I prepared for a month.

[laughs]

[Man]

Have you put any restrictions

on what you're willing

to do on video?

Um, at this point

in time I have.

I won't do any anals

or gangbangs,

and that's pretty much it.

And the only reason is, is...

[clears throat]

...it's more, like, a business

thing than anything else.

I figure I have to have

something left

when... to market

a little bit later on.

So, you'll probably see me

doing it a little bit later,

but not quite yet.

Gonna make you wait for it.

[Man]

Do you do it off camera?

Oh, definitely. Uh-huh, uh-huh.

Mm-hmm. Definitely.

Well, I don't know

about gangbangs.

I don't really usually get into

a gangbang situation

all that often.

Um, but anal sex,

I do try get it in

every once in a blue moon.

[laughs]

[Andrews]

I'd been producing

and directing for 15 years,

and I thought,

"Well, you know what?

"Why don't I understand

the theory

"of what I've actually been

doing for the last 15 years."

So I moved to New York

and I started going to

the New York Film Academy.

I did two years of producing,

one year of directing.

It was funny 'cause they would

go on my IMDB page

and, you know, there's these

19-year-old film school boys,

and they're like, "Oh my God!

You have 1,000 credits?"

[laughs]

"Your IMDB page is so big

and massive and huge.

"Wow!" You know.

So yeah, when I realized that

independent filmmaking was

not going to continue

making me the rich bitch

that I'm used to being...

[laughs]

[electronic music playing]

Maybe I should DJ?

Workaholic slash

rave chick girl.

Work my ass off, work hard,

play hard kind of thing.

I was always billed out

as the porn star DJ.

But then I've also been

in "Playboy" magazine,

so also "Playboy" DJ.

And, you know, now I get

to just be a talented

scam artist DJ.

I've not had any issue

with my past being negative.

It's actually been

the exact opposite.

I've utilized all

the tools and connections

and things like that

in whatever new businesses

that I start now.

I am very happy that I was

a part of

the "golden age of porn."

Very happy.

'Cause, you know what?

I don't know if I

could do it nowadays.

I really don't know

if I could.

[soft, slow music playing]

[Man]

Most men involved

in the industry,

outside of most of the talent,

I don't think

they're pro-women.

I don't think they like women.

I think that they get off on

having power over women.

But it also creates money,

so, you know,

that's my opinion.

I don't think it's...

It's far from the most honorable

industry that ever existed.

[noisy chattering]

[Woman]

Long-term, I'm actually

doing my Web site now.

Eventually, I want

to keep doing it,

but, I mean, if something

else comes up,

that'd be cool too, but...

I want to eventually, like,

hire people to do it for me,

so, like, I don't have to do it

anymore, you know what I mean?

Like, have my own site

and pay girls to do stuff.

Or men.

So that I don't have to, like--

I can be, like,

a director basically, you know?

That'd be cool.

[Man]

Back up this way now.

-Yeah, nice.

-[shutter clicking]

Can you bring 'em

underneath yourself?

Yeah? Let's pop those out.

Beautiful.

Okay, good.

That's it.

Drop that shoulder.

Yeah, nice.

Bring your left shoulder

to me just a little bit.

Right there.

Yeah, very strong.

Beautiful.

Right there, good.

[shutter clicking]

[Man]

Do you like

this job so far?

I love this job so far.

[Man]

Are there certain aspects

of this kind of work

that you dislike?

Yeah, but the likes

outweigh the dislikes.

[Man]

What's going on in the life

of Chasey Lain?

[Lain]

Right now I'm out here working.

I do two weeks on,

two weeks off.

And I'm giving some love to

Dennis here at the BunnyRanch.

There it is.

And a lot of love

to a lot of fans out there?

Yeah. Anybody can come,

swing on by and we'll have

a good time.

There you go.

So, are you--

Are you still doing movies

or are you done with that?

[Chasey]

Mmm, I don't know

if I'm done with it.

I'm not shooting right now.

[Man]

Okay.

[Lain] Off and on,

I went to the BunnyRanch

for a minute and worked.

I don't have

any problem with Dennis.

It's just that it's not for me,

'cause it's really

way far out of town,

and I don't like

the money split there.

They take half of everything

and then charge you

for room and board

and different stuff as well.

And it gets real slow

during Christmas

'cause it gets real cold there

and it snows and stuff.

So sometimes there would be

days, two, three, four days

and not one person

would walk in the door.

So you end up having

to stay a little bit longer

than you would have

'cause you're upside down

to the house.

'Cause every day

that you're there,

they charge you room and board

and this and that.

The adult business

and the escort business

are two separate businesses.

They want nothing

to do with each other.

In fact, years back,

if you were escorting,

you were blackballed

in the adult industry.

They would never

hire you again on set

if they found out

you were escorting.

You're supposed

to be untouchable

when you're doing film.

And so that means not

everybody can get to you

to shoot you or...

not everybody could get

to you to have sex with you.

Otherwise, why would you

buy the video?

The video has to be the only

place they can get it

or it won't sell.

My free time,

I like to spend shopping.

[giggles]

With my son.

Or, um...

Relaxing. I like my horses

and, you know.

[Man]

Are you a clothes girl?

Or are you a shoes girl?

I'm shoes. I'm shoes.

-You have a big collection?

-I'm a shoes girl.

I do.

Huge. 800 or so pair.

Any particular brand

in particular?

Not in particular.

It's every brand. Every pair.

My contracts

progressively got better

throughout the years.

Dancing progressively

got better too.

I got a base pay and then

I got two rooms and two tickets.

'Cause I didn't share a room

with my roadie.

And I don't take a split

on merchandise either.

Some of the clubs want to take,

like, half your money.

Yeah, I had my own toy line,

and I had my own line

of realistics,

vibrators, and love gels, so.

They molded my hands,

my face, my crotch,

my feet...

my whole body,

I guess.

There were 25 products

out on the market.

I would get checks

every two, three months

for like, 60,000

and stuff like that.

I'm old school.

You absolutely know

that gonzo's not my favorite.

It's something

with a script

and a plot.

[Man]

But see, most people

would be surprised

that'd you want

to have a script and...

It's so much easier

to go by a script,

and you're going to work

to pretend to do something,

to be something, to do.

I mean, it's an entire act,

so why not?

I mean, yeah, of course

I'd like to have a script,

something to actually do,

work on.

Not just... plop up

camera there.

That takes all the mad

movie magic out of it.

Yeah, the Internet wasn't around

when I first got

into the business,

and then it destroyed

the business pretty much.

People can just

look at the Internet and get

whatever they want for free.

There's no need to put

any kind of production value

into anything.

There's no need to pay

an extra penny for anything

when it's being shoved

down your throat for free.

The same opportunities

are not available now

that were then.

I produced

an all-girls line

for Vivid

called "Chasin' Pink"

and my budgets were $30,000.

I mean, that was

considered gonzo.

My "gonzo,"

my $30,000 "gonzo."

[laughs]

I mean, have you seen

the stuff that's up there?

I mean, I uh...

Last time I checked,

Bang Brothers didn't have

a whole elaborate setup.

It's different now.

I mean, they shoot something

in their living room

and throw it on the Internet

and then now

they're a porn star.

Well, it's not really

paying your dues.

But okay.

What would you like to do

after adult films?

Is there life

after adult films?

[laughs]

I don't know.

I don't think so, but...

Right. Um, next question.

How would you judge

the future of porn in general?

I think the future of porn...

Well, my Lord, it's the oldest

profession that there is,

so I pretty much think

it's just gonna get better.

Yeah, it would take money

to do another scene.

I mean, the companies now

just aren't really paying.

If I wanted to shoot

every day, I could.

I'm just not interested

in shooting every day

because I don't really like

to do interracial scenes

too much.

I don't want to shoot anal.

And so, that's mostly

what they're shooting

and I'm just not interested

in shooting that.

And so, I don't.

I mean, I've done adult

for a long, long time.

I mean, there's other things

that can be done

that I'm also interested in

that I would like to do

since the adult business

doesn't exist anymore.

Since... Let it go to bed.

-It's for you.

-Oh!

-Hello?

-Allison?

[Lain]

Fame is real.

Fame is fun.

I made it so I'd get recognized

when I go to the grocery store.

Everybody's your

best friend when...

[laughs]

...when you're a star.

A person who is paid for sex

doesn't necessarily have

any negative repercussions

from that act.

And some of the things

people have investigated,

for example, are things like

post-traumatic stress disorder,

anxiety disorders.

And while they may occur more

frequently in that population,

there's no evidence that

their receiving sex for money

caused that problem for them.

Let's say I'm some

unemployed guy or something

in the middle of the country

living in a trailer park,

but I have

the ware-for-all to be able

to save $100 a week up

so that on

my birthday next year,

I can buy my favorite hooker

or porn star for an hour.

Okay, she just fell

off that pedestal,

in my opinion.

And she became less valuable

to the industry.

As soon as someone

can have you

for a price

outside the industry,

your value to the industry

goes down.

However, the models use

our industry and our sites

and the scenes

as advertising

that they're still

an active adult film star.

[Sins]

People think that once you do

a porn, it's like over with,

but it's really not.

Once you do porn, it actually

opens up a door to...

I walk around,

and I'm walking

in the like street

the other day,

and I was just crossing

the like, road.

I'm crossing the road

and a guy yells out

by car, "I fucking hate you,

Donny Sins. You son of a bitch."

I'm like,

"Who are you?"

He's like, "I watched you

on Dogfart the other day.

"You were fucking

this blonde chick that I love

and I never got

to fuck her before."

And you're like...

It opens up avenues for you,

you know what I mean?

And then it's funny enough

that he cursed me out

and then offered me

a fucking ride down the street.

And I'm like,

"No, I'm fine.

It's a nice day.

I would rather walk."

[beeping]

Okay, red light's on.

We're recording.

All right.

I have no idea

if this is even working.

I don't know

what the hell I'm doing.

I just want to make

a tape, okay?

So, here's me.

Hope you like it.

Sit back, relax, and enjoy

the feature presentation.

Shit.

This thing on?

How the hell

am I gonna shut it off?

[Howard Stern]

And Tabitha, what about you?

You're in porno.

What age did

you start doing porno?

[Tabitha]

I started at 25.

I'm 31.

-[Stern] You're 31 years old---

-[Woman] 25 is a late start!

[Stern]

You're a late starter, yeah.

[Man]

The way she started,

I said, "How did you start?"

She said she was

a bored housewife.

-Yes.

-Really?

-You were a married woman.

-Yes, I was.

And you were sitting at home.

Did you watch a lot of porno

at home?

No, I've only seen--

I only saw half a porno

my whole life.

[Tabitha]

I'd have to say

that Howard Stern

has been a very big part

of my career.

He helped me brand

Tabitha Stevens.

And it's a great opportunity.

And I have to laugh

because I always hear,

"Did you have to sleep

with Howard to be on

that many times on his show?"

And no, never.

I've never, ever

had sex with Howard Stern.

I've never, ever, ever had sex

with Howard Stern.

Or anyone from his show,

unless it was

a Wack Pack member, okay?

There you have it.

The truth coming

from my mouth to your ears.

[laughs]

I like, when

I'm going on a set,

I like to know

what I'm going to do.

I like to know

who I'm going to do.

I like to know this

on the porno set.

-Mm-hmm.

-I like to know what time

I'm going to be finished

and I like to be

treated with respect.

That's all there is.

I mean, that's the one thing.

If you treat me with respect,

I'll treat you

with 100 times more respect.

That's all it is.

It's just that.

In 1993, I got married.

And I married a guy

who was a super-cool guy.

Did very well for himself.

I was a stripper

when I first met him,

and then I quit obviously.

And I became a housewife.

And I was very bored.

The first video that I shot

was called "Rolling Thunder."

It was by Vivid Entertainment.

Racquel Darrian

was on the box cover

and my scene

was with Bobby Vitale.

And it was supposed to

be a girl, but it ended up

being a boy/girl.

They switched it

on my last minute.

So, of course I didn't tell

my husband at the time that.

But I remember--

this is the funniest thing--

being nervous

about my dialog.

The sex I knew I could do,

'cause I knew I had a...

You know, I was

real good at that.

I kinda still am.

But anyway.

But my thing was,

what if I don't get

my lines right?

And I told them that.

And they're like,

"You're gonna be fine."

After my scene was over,

well, I was on a desk.

I was supposed to be

playing a secretary.

-[Man] Imagine that.

-With Bobby Vitale.

And when I got up,

there were phone numbers

imprinted on my ass.

[laughs]

And I couldn't figure out

what it was.

Like, "Oh, my God,

who did this?"

But, yeah, so it was

kind of interesting.

But then I got divorced

right after that.

I had my mom get all

my stuff out of my house,

you know, got divorced,

and that was it.

Never looked back.

I just couldn't see

myself being an extension

of somebody else's life.

I mean, he was successful

in what he did

and he was a great provider,

and again, I have nothing

against the guy whatsoever.

But here's the thing.

It's like that was his thing.

I needed to find my thing

and it ended up

porn was my thing.

I just call it

ass-fucking, myself.

When I got into the business,

I was told

one really important thing.

Pace out your career.

If you want any kind

of longevity,

don't do anal scenes

right away.

Give it a couple of years.

Don't do

a double penetration

right away.

Wait for interracial.

That was a big thing.

Okay, well,

I didn't know.

Here I come

into a business.

I didn't know anybody

in the porn business.

So, I paced my career.

It took me what,

about a year and a half,

two years to do

my first anal scene?

Think I've done eight

anal scenes my entire career.

Maybe eight to ten?

Double penetration.

I did that...

three years later?

So, I took my time with it.

It took me 17 years

before I did my first

interracial scene.

So, I took my time

so that I wasn't burnt out

and people weren't burnt out.

Are you following me again?

Told you to stop following me.

[Man]

No, no, wait.

[Stevens]

I think nowadays

that the day

of the contract is over.

And that was

a big deal for us.

That was a totally big deal

because you use that contract

to get on box covers.

You needed those box covers

so you could go

on the road dancing.

You made a lot of money

feature dancing.

Now, I do know that nowadays

girls still go on the road.

What happened to being

in those bigger movies

where you could be

the only girl on the box cover?

Now everybody's on the box cover

with gaping assholes.

I don't think that's attractive.

Back then it was classier

than I think it is now.

And I think that girls

are doing things nowadays

that they probably

wouldn't really want to do,

like the double anals

or the double vag.

Because they want

to make the money

and because there's

so much competition.

But the art of it

is when you're suckin' it,

you gotta twist it.

You gotta twist it

at the top.

Remember that,

Dave, for later.

Twist, jerk it,

and twist it and lick it

and go down and up.

But don't do it in my teeth.

I mean, they hurt.

These are really good teeth.

See? They're really good.

We're all in the sex business.

And I've heard this said before.

We're all hoes on this bus

when it comes to work.

I've heard that now

girls are getting

into the porn business

so that they can

become escorts.

That's what's happening now.

I'm not against it.

Not one bit.

So, that's why

you really don't see

the age of

the porn star anymore.

I think that

there are a very few.

You still have

your Jessica Drakes

of the world.

But you look at Jessie today,

and I mean, who else

after Jessie?

I don't really know many girls

that are now the porn star.

And now I think

that's the way

they're doing it, is to...

And I'm not knocking the girls.

Hey, if that's how they want to

make their money, that's fine.

Again, be safe about it.

But I think they're

coming in the industry

to make a little name,

and then they go out there

and make probably even more

money being an escort.

So have you ever wondered

why I'm so at ease

with the adult business

and when you were

doing movies and whatnot?

I kind of have an idea,

but what is it?

Well, it's that...

I understand

the entertainment value.

I understand that there's rarely

true passion involved.

And that at the end of the day,

it's a job

as most jobs are.

[laughing]

[Man]

Rolling.

Cut.

All right. I'm gonna

get a wide shot

and I'll come back there.

And rolling.

[Orona]

And the reality of it is,

is it's hard work.

It's entertainment.

I knew that you, like anybody

in the adult business

has to produce work.

When I decided

to hang it up,

with my career,

I'd have to say

it was pretty much

a joint decision about that.

-Wouldn't we say?

-Absolutely.

Yeah, it was.

Again, I respect Gary so much.

And if Gary ever

had a hard time

and said, you know,

"I really don't want you

to do this anymore.

Could you please stop?"

I would.

I just love

and respect my husband.

And he's the same with me.

And I just figured, you know,

and it was time.

It was just time to move on

to bigger and better things.

[bird cawing]

[rattling]

[Western movie music plays]

[Orona]

Tabitha and I spend day

after day after day

backpacks on our backs,

trekking into the wilderness,

and we're shooting amazing,

stunning, beautiful

fine art photography landscapes.

And we're producing

and Tabitha's core,

absolutely pivotal.

A lot of the ideas are hers,

the concepts are hers,

the design.

And we're producing

and creating these works

for a fine art

photography gallery,

-which is named...

-Savage Territory,

a Gary Orona gallery.

How do I say it again?

-"This is where I am."

-"This is where I am." Okay.

This is where I am now.

My husband and I own

a fine art photography gallery

here, in Green River, Utah,

called Savage Territory.

-Yeah.

-Okay. But I'm just

letting you know I'm more fine.

I'm really fine.

I actually do think

about a life after porn.

I want to either...

I want to go

to college really.

I was raised Jehovah Witness,

so I was in

a really small school

that my family opened.

So, I've not really been

familiar with like,

public schools

or public schooling.

So, college to me

is gonna be a huge experience.

So, what I'd like to do is go

and kind of see the colleges

and see the different like paths

that I can take

'cause I don't even know

really what I want to do

after porn.

But I don't want to do porn

for the rest of my life.

I'll probably be in

maybe another year or two

is the longest

I would say,

and then go to a school

and figure out kind of

what I want to do.

And maybe I'll work

with children

or maybe something

like massage therapy

or physical therapy maybe.

[indistinct chattering]

I do have a plan for getting out

of porn and performing.

I'm actually a partner

in the agency

that I'm with right now.

And we have a production side.

It's called Vuluce.

And we'll be shooting

models for that

and doing fan sites

and all that good, fun stuff.

I want to have

a family one day.

So, definitely

on the right track

to succeeding for that.

So, I'm excited.

I got this fantasy job

that, you know,

I gotta step back

and kind of analyze this here

and say,

"Wait a minute.

"You know, I can

choose any woman,

you know, or I could ask

if I can have a scene with her."

And to know that

I'm gonna be with

most amazing women

is just kind of...

fantasy come true.

A lot of people have hang up

about me just doing girl/girls,

and oh, it's this,

it's fake and it's shit.

They can kiss my ass

'cause it's not.

I don't like, you know,

when a lot of the girl/girls

have the, you know,

touch tongues or this.

I want a connection where

we can hold tight and sweat

and... two become as one.

Life is gonna zoom on by

and... you know,

I want to grab and feel things

as much as I can now.

And I feel here

just recently,

I want to grab all this stuff.

And I'm almost in a panic.

It's been years

since I've been interviewed

or in front of a camera.

Ultimately, this whole industry

is a big, fucking

cop out on life.

You wake up,

you're 47 years old,

and you ain't got

a pot to piss in.

Great. 25 years.

Now what are you gonna do?

Okay, I... It's...

Now what?

I remember being

in my childhood house

and I'm thumbing through

a local PennySaver,

and I saw

an ad that said

"Wanted: figure models."

It was a test shoot

for Penthouse.

You know, I'm wearing

my grandmother's silk robe,

and I put on

some Lee press-on fingernails,

and we did some makeup

and went to Malibu Beach.

Test shot

and lo and behold,

it was the centerfold

for December '87.

I was pampered.

I was loved.

I was wanted.

From there is where

I met Andrew Blake.

And he asked me if I'd be

interested in triple-X.

At the time

I was married

and I said, "Yeah, I could

venture into triple-X

as long as it's women only."

You know, out of courtesy

for my husband at the time.

And lo and behold,

"Hidden Obsessions."

Julia Ann and myself were

at that same time dancing

as Blondage.

We were on the road and,

you know, I told her

about what has just happened

with, you know, being asked

to do "Hidden Obsessions."

And she came aboard

and then she and I did

the ice, the infamous

ice dildo scene,

and that won awards, and...

we were rockstars.

[rock music playing]

♪ Come on over ♪

♪ Oh, honey, ooh, ooh ♪

♪ Said, "Come on over" ♪

The bucks were flying in.

I was just buying cars

for my mom,

for my sister,

for this person, that person,

and big houses,

and a lot of stuff.

I didn't know

what to do with it all.

It happened so fast.

I wasn't prepared for it,

which led me into taxes.

I-- And-- [laughs]

[Man]

Porn star Janine Lindemulder

is facing federal criminal rap

for failing to pay

about $80,000 in income tax.

[Woman]

Lindemulder was named last month

in a misdemeanor accusing her

of stiffing the IRS

for taxes due

on more than $350,000

of income in 2004.

Went to prison, misdemeanor,

failure to--

or willful failure

to pay back taxes.

That was kind of--

that was the beginning

of...

an incredible...

life-altering nightmare.

[Woman]

Janine Lindemulder is now locked

in a bitter custody dispute

with Sandra Bullock

and her husband Jesse James.

[Woman #2]

Janine Lindemulder says

she's a good mother

and her daughter

is her world.

But Bullock and her husband

Jesse James have accused her

of everything from drug use

to child neglect

and are seeking sole custody.

Now that Lindemulder

has finished

a six-month prison term

for tax evasion,

she wants her child back,

setting the power couple up

for a big fight.

[Lindemulder]

When the whole Sunny custody

thing is happening...

my ex had his lawyer,

high-priced lawyer.

I'm there, no lawyer...

totally confused

about the situation.

I'm tatted.

Judge is looking at

what my line of work is.

At one point,

she put her papers down,

looked me square

in the eyes and said,

you know, "What happened

to you in your childhood

to make you

the way you are?"

And, you know,

she sized me up.

She saw the tattoos,

she sees that you're

a porn star,

and it was pretty much

a done deal.

She...

without even giving me

an opportunity to state my case,

I lost her.

Being in the industry,

being heavily tattooed

definitely changed

the course of my life.

You know.

The longer I was away

from my daughter,

the darker my world became.

I then found

myself heavily medicated.

You know, doctors prescribed

anti-depressants,

anti-anxiety,

and then pain pills

came into play.

Vicodin, absolutely

drug of choice.

Poppin' those tings like candy.

And just anything

to alleviate

some of the anguish

that I felt.

I found myself...

and this is tough to say,

but, homeless.

Homeless in my van

with my cat,

just trying to make sense

of what's happened.

Having my daughter

pulled out of my life

in such a...

harsh manner.

You know, there was

no phone calls.

There was-- I couldn't

tell her I love her.

You know, "I'm sorry,

I don't know what's happening.

I'm trying to get to you."

Everything was so confused

and I felt like

I was at a point of...

I want to check out.

I want to check out.

I can't deal.

I don't have the tools.

When Janine was going through

what she went through

with Jesse

and the loss of Sunny,

I thought I was gonna lose her.

I thought I was gonna lose her.

And because she suffered,

she suffered so,

so deeply.

You know, I couldn't get

the knife out.

I couldn't make it right.

Everything I tried,

it was not enough.

To replace Sunny...

was all I wanted to do,

was get her back

and get her

in her arms again,

and we just

didn't have the power.

We didn't have what,

you know, he had

as far as power and money,

and, you know.

He's an unworthy father and...

I finally have the nerve

to call a suicide hotline.

Call 'em up, I said,

"Man, I don't know

what's happening here.

I need to talk

to somebody."

And funny but sad,

the woman picks up the phone

and she says,

"We're really sorry,

but the doctor's not in."

And I'm like,

"Are you fucking kidding me?

Okay. All right,

I'll call back."

So, I'm kind of laughing,

crying at this point

and right then and there,

I said, "Okay.

Enough is enough.

I've got to pull this together."

I went to rehab.

I was in rehab

for a month.

And everybody at this point

thought I was

just out of my mind.

"Oh, she's a meth head.

Oh, she's on crack."

No, no, I'm lost.

I'm fucking heartbroken

beyond words.

At the same time,

I'm subjecting myself

to looking on the Internet

and looking at people

comparing me

to America's sweetheart,

Sandra Bullock, saying,

"Well, Janine deserves

to lose her kid.

She's this cracked out,

you know, porn whore."

And, you know,

"Sandra Bullock is, you know,

the best thing for Sunny."

And it-- that's just

bringing me down.

And I'm going,

"How am I gonna do this?"

Do I want my daughter

to do what I've done?

Fuck no.

No way.

[applause]

I'm still--

I'm in limbo.

I don't know

what the future holds.

Do I go back to school?

Am I gonna be a waitress?

I don't know.

It's really kind of a...

an odd time

of my life right now.

I'm trying to figure that out

and, you know,

make my next move.

I've gotta have

the backbone to do it.

You know.

So far...

I don't.

I don't have it.

But it's getting there,

you know.

It's a work in progress.

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music continuing]