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One, take one. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,920 INDISTINCT CHATTER 3 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:18,600 I will shortly leave the job 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,000 that it has been the honour of my life to hold. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,000 The second female prime minister, but certainly not the last. 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,040 The hardest thing you have to do as a chief of staff 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,000 is to tell your boss, "The game is up." 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,600 So, I am today announcing that I will resign 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 as leader of the Conservative and Unionist Party. 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,160 'It was incredibly frustrating.' 11 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:43,000 There were still things that I wanted to do. 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,160 I do so with no ill will 13 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:53,320 but with enormous and enduring gratitude 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,080 to have had the opportunity to serve the country I love. 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,320 'I was frustrated with myself 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,240 'because my voice only caught right at the very end of the speech.' 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,080 My, then, chief of staff, Gavin Barwell, 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,640 did say to me when I went in... 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,560 I said, "I shouldn't have done that." 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,840 And I sort of slightly blew my top and fairly robustly said 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,320 that for two years I'd encouraged her 22 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:18,800 to show a bit more of her emotion 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,440 and what she's actually like as a person. 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,840 And she absolutely should not be apologising for being a bit upset. 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,320 And I just said to him, "That's not how the press will see it." 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,320 that was the one thing they focused on. 27 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:36,680 PENNY MORDAUNT: That was a very brutal day. 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Westminster at its most brutal. 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,600 The first female prime minister also left office 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,880 with tears in her eyes. 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,320 It became impossible for me. 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,240 And I think that, ultimately, 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,160 there were quite a few of my colleagues 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,400 who probably didn't quite trust a Remainer delivering Brexit. 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,560 They wanted a Brexiteer to deliver it. 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,440 I think one thing about Theresa is that she's incredibly shy 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,280 and doesn't like the job of communicating, 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,600 doesn't like the job of selling. 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,080 Oh, the entire campaign was a total disaster from day one. 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,040 INTERVIEWER: Is it a disadvantage in a leading politician 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,360 to be an introvert? Yes. 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,440 The no's to the left - 432. 43 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,680 This is not Brexit. 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,800 Under Chequers, you lose control. 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,400 So, the no's have it. The no's have it. 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,240 GAVIN: He phoned up to say he was resigning 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,440 but wasn't quite able to get the words out of his mouth. 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,000 In the end, she had said to say, "Look, I'm in a bit of a rush. 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,800 "Are you telling me you're resigning?" 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,000 INTERVIEWER: At the time, 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,360 did you consider it a personal betrayal? 52 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,840 I don't use terms like that. 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,920 I think history will remember Theresa 54 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:59,040 as a dedicated public servant 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,560 who... 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,600 was probably in the wrong job at the wrong time. 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Given what's followed... SHE CHUCKLES 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,920 ..her reputation is enhanced. 59 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:13,040 I mean, I didn't know at the time 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,720 that truth and decency wasn't always going to be part 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,240 of a prime minister's make-up. 62 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,440 I don't miss it in the sense 63 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,080 that life is a little easier these days. 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,120 And I don't think you realise the stress until you step down, 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,120 and then you recognise the stress that you were under. 66 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,640 That's 500. That's 500? 67 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Right, I might take a break at 500. 68 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,120 NARRATOR: Theresa May has stepped away from front-line politics. 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,680 But she has written an account of her time in office 70 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,880 and granted us exclusive access to film with her. 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Brilliant. I mean, this is just mind-boggling. 72 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,920 Told mainly from inside the Conservative Party, 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,760 by critics as well as friends, 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,000 this is the story of her fateful political career at the top. 75 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,120 Last one! Wahey! Wahey! 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Well done. 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,440 To understand Theresa May's approach to politics, 78 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,920 it helps to understand her roots. 79 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,880 Welcome to the world of her constituency... 80 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,960 and her kitchen. 81 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,680 This is a book that Philip gave me at Christmas. 82 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,600 It's different recipes from... 83 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,800 It's called Food Of France's Borderlands. 84 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,240 I do have rather a lot of cookery books. 85 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Of course, Alain Roux has a restaurant in my constituency. 86 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,800 And also in my constituency, Caldesi. 87 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,960 I've got several of their cookery books, Italian. 88 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,120 Really, really good. 89 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,120 INTERVIEWER: So, where does the interest in cooking stem from? 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,520 My grandmother was quite a good cook 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,840 but a very sort of basic cook. 92 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:12,120 I used to enjoy some of her puddings, particularly. 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,160 My mother didn't have that great an interest in cooking. 94 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,840 So maybe that's why I started having such an interest, 95 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:20,440 sort of thought I'd take over 96 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,120 My father was a clergyman. 97 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,240 I think it's true to say 98 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,240 that my parents always voted Conservative, 99 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,840 but my father was very clear 100 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:35,440 that, as a vicar, he represented everybody in his parish. 101 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,360 So I think that sense that his was a job 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,840 where he was there for other people 103 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,880 was something that was sort of instilled in me. 104 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,840 There was always that sense that I could be what I wanted to be, 105 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,240 that there was nothing that should hold me back 106 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,800 simply because I was a girl. 107 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,280 Looking back, I feel I should have been 108 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:58,000 just that little bit more confident. 109 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,040 Perhaps "less shy" would be a better description. 110 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,080 She goes to Oxford in the mid 1970s, 111 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,160 where women are still something of a novelty. 112 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,360 There she meets her husband, Philip. 113 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Well, we were both interested in politics. 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,400 But I have to say, I think the attraction 115 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,840 was rather more than just the politics. 116 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Theresa and Philip get married. He goes into the City. 117 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,160 She, via the Bank of England and a spell as a local councillor 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,280 in south London, into national politics, 119 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:39,000 standing in Maidenhead during Tony Blair's 1997 landslide win. 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Thank you. Would you like a balloon? 121 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,600 Theresa Mary May has been duly elected 122 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,800 to serve as a member for the said constituency. 123 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,040 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,560 CHEERING 125 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,080 NEWSREADER: 'Tony Blair's majority 126 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,960 'is the largest ever won by a Labour leader.' 127 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,960 'Do you think they'll send you to charm school 128 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,000 'or image-making classes?' 129 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,240 'You mean I need to go to charm school? 130 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,360 'No, I don't think so.' 131 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,880 By now, both her parents have died. 132 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,600 It's one of the great sadnesses is 133 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,680 that neither of them was able to see me as a Member of Parliament. 134 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 When the Conservatives regain power under David Cameron, 135 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,920 she is made Home Secretary - 136 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,880 one of the most senior jobs in the government. 137 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,280 By now, she has earned a reputation as a Tory moderniser. 138 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,840 But she remains something of an outsider. 139 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,240 I don't think she was part of the boys' curry Friday night 140 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,160 or whatever it was that they had. 141 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,560 but I don't think she was necessarily part of that gang. 142 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Nor was she always seen as the most collegiate of colleagues. 143 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,240 I found her style, I would say, very uncompromising. 144 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,000 I mean, she was completely obviously on top of her brief, 145 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,840 but, you know, wanted things her way and only her way. 146 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,040 And then I'm sure, actually, that, 147 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,400 when she eventually became prime minister, 148 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,120 that many of her cabinet sort of thought, 149 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,800 well, this is how SHE did things. 150 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,640 You know, there was a sort of lack of teamwork. 151 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,720 So maybe that's... You know, that set the tone for them. 152 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,160 CORRESPONDENT: 'Polite applause was about as friendly as it got here. 153 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,040 'The Home Secretary and the Police Federation 154 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,280 'don't exactly see eye-to-eye.' 155 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Theresa May was not afraid to make enemies, 156 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,840 even among the Tories' natural allies. 157 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,160 I do not want to have to impose change on you, 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,600 because I want you to show the public 159 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,960 that you want to change. 160 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,920 When she was Home Secretary, she had that extraordinary speech she made 161 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,600 Home Secretary, I believe you're a disgrace. 162 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,840 APPLAUSE 163 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,680 Shameful and dishonourable. 164 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:10,920 When you're appointed Home Secretary, it's kind of... 165 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,800 Well, the good news is you're Home Secretary. 166 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,120 The bad news, you're speaking to 167 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,600 the Police Federation conference next week. 168 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,280 But her biggest challenge as Home Secretary 169 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,960 is to deliver David Cameron's pledge to cut immigration numbers. 170 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,040 This is not just about making the UK 171 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,600 a more hostile place for illegal migrants, 172 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,160 it is also about fairness. 173 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,760 Underpinning her immigration policy 174 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,520 is the so-called "hostile environment". 175 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,240 Particularly controversial 176 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,160 is a scheme introduced in several London boroughs 177 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,920 to deter illegal immigrants. 178 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,120 White vans with the caption, "Go home or face arrest." 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,760 I thought that that particular approach with the vans, 180 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,440 the messaging, was just a wrong approach 181 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,080 because I think it's damaging to community relations, 182 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,280 and I think there were better ways to tackle this issue. 183 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,920 As Home Secretary, obviously I take responsibility for what was done 184 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,520 within my department. But I think what the... 185 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,200 And it was wrong, and we stopped it. 186 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,360 We realised after a fairly short period of time 187 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,600 that we needed to stop that. 188 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,560 It was a policy that would come back to haunt her as prime minister. 189 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,320 REPORTER: This is a misleading bus. That's what goes to Brussels. 190 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,400 Totally right. That is what goes to Brussels a week. 191 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,720 Think what we could do with another £350 million. 192 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,680 What changes everything in British politics, 193 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:46,680 and for Theresa May, is the Brexit Referendum. 194 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,320 Well, I think, from everything I've seen as Home Secretary, 195 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,680 that we will be more secure 196 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:53,200 if we stay within the European Union. 197 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:57,960 She's a Remainer but not a prominent one. 198 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,680 'I thought, during the referendum campaign, 199 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:03,040 'she was incredibly quiet.' 200 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,280 And if I think back to why... 201 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,760 But I think maybe even then, she was probably, you know, 202 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,480 I'd actually say, smart enough to sort of think, 203 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,400 "Actually, you know what? 204 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,080 "This might go horribly wrong for David Cameron. 205 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,680 "He might end up resigning. 206 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:22,000 "And then I'm gonna go for the leadership. 207 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,640 "And if I stay out of it and sort of sit on the fence, 208 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,960 "then I might be a more appealing candidate to both sides." 209 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,600 But the core of the campaign, 210 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,440 the centre, including Number 10, 211 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,160 didn't want immigration to be the issue 212 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,640 for the Remain side of the campaign. 213 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,160 And of course, I was Home Secretary. 214 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,880 The British people have spoken, and the answer is, "We're out". 215 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,320 CHEERING It's a victory for ordinary people. 216 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,040 I believe we now have a glorious opportunity. 217 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,720 I think it took everyone by surprise. 218 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,720 And not just the result, but then David's decision to stand down. 219 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,760 I hadn't expected that to happen. 220 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,880 I was at home, I think, 221 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,080 and suddenly, you know, the news came, 222 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,000 and it said David was coming out. 223 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,840 And he came out with Samantha. 224 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,920 And I thought, "Oh. I've got a feeling 225 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,240 "I know what this is going to be." 226 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,240 But it was quite a shock. 227 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,840 But I do not think it would be right for me to try to be the captain 228 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,200 that steers our country to its next destination. 229 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,520 is this something that you want to pursue? 230 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,280 People around me spoke to me about it. 231 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,880 And whether, you know, I would throw my hat in the ring. 232 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,560 And, well, as you know, I did. 233 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:46,680 APPLAUSE 234 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,200 She was not the bookies' favourite. But he didn't last long. 235 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,240 Having consulted colleagues 236 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,040 and in view of the circumstances in Parliament, 237 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,640 I have concluded that person cannot be me. 238 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,960 With Boris Johnson out of the race, 239 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,480 Andrea Leadsom and Theresa May 240 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,040 are the last two candidates standing. 241 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,520 But after a controversial interview in The Times, 242 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,720 in which Andrea Leadsom seems to suggest 243 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,720 her rival is less qualified for the job 244 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,640 because she doesn't have children, 245 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,720 she apologises and withdraws from the contest. 246 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,080 I thought it was an unfortunate thing to say. 247 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,560 Hurtful? 248 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,600 Erm, I mean, it's difficult 249 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,920 because obviously we don't have children, 250 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,600 haven't been able to have children. 251 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,560 The Right Honourable Mrs Theresa May is the only remaining candidate. 252 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:55,800 The process is now that I must formally confirm 253 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,840 that Mrs May is the new leader of the Conservative Party. 254 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,840 'So, the tradition is 255 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,480 'that the Prime Minister goes through the famous door 256 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,880 'and walks down the corridor, clapped in by all the staff. 257 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,200 'Then you end up in the Cabinet Room, 258 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,600 'which is at the end of that corridor.' 259 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,240 And there was definitely that moment of "what next?" 260 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,800 And no-one really knew quite what to say. 261 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,480 Is there a bit of you thinking, "Oh, my God, how did this happen? 262 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,280 "I wasn't expecting this, and it's almost accidental 263 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,200 "that it's happened." 264 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Well, I put myself up for the leadership. 265 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,520 I'd had to give thought 266 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,240 to whether I really felt it was right for me to do that. 267 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,960 The decisions that we take around this table 268 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,080 affect people's day-to-day lives. 269 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,480 And we have the challenge of Brexit, and Brexit... 270 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,440 From the start of her time in Number 10, 271 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,520 the shadow of Brexit looms. 272 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,800 But we won't be a government that's defined just by Brexit. 273 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,480 As a remainer, the Prime Minister is careful 274 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,320 to include prominent Brexiteers in her Cabinet. 275 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,280 BANGING ON TABLE 276 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,120 'What were the particular qualities 277 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,560 'that the Foreign Secretary brought to the job?' 278 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Well, he'd led the Brexit campaign. 279 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,920 I think it was important that he had a key role 280 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,040 within the Cabinet and was sitting around that table. 281 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,160 In a way, Theresa May was left holding the baby, 282 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,960 was not going to lead us into delivering it. 283 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,640 She'd become leader of the party without, really, a contest. 284 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,000 And so she felt the need to reassure Brexiteers 285 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,160 that she could be trusted to deliver on this issue. 286 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,160 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 287 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,160 Having voted to leave, 288 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,200 I know that the public will soon expect to see on the horizon 289 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,360 the point at which Britain does formally leave 290 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,200 the European Union. 291 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,400 So, let me be absolutely clear. 292 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,560 There will be no unnecessary delays in invoking Article 50. 293 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,960 I think there was enormous pressure on her 294 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:24,720 to trigger Article 50 before she perhaps was ready to do so. 295 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,120 Brexit means Brexit. 296 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,760 And we're going to make a success of it. 297 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,680 It wasn't about me, as a Remainer, going out there 298 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,560 in order to persuade people that I was going to do Brexit. 299 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,800 It was my absolutely firm belief that the people had voted, 300 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,280 and we should deliver what the people had voted for. 301 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,360 The position held for now, but, as the prime minister, 302 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Theresa May has to win friends and influence people abroad too. 303 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,440 Her biggest challenge: the new American President. 304 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,960 'I think the one word I would use for Donald Trump is unpredictable.' 305 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,360 And obviously, the relationship 306 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:13,360 between the Prime Minister and President varies 307 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:17,520 according to the personalities of the individuals. 308 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,560 But you want to have some certainty 309 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,000 about how somebody is going to react to something. 310 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,400 And unpredictability is difficult to deal with. 311 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,360 And it's a great honour to have Winston Churchill back. 312 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,200 Well, thank you, Mr President. We're very pleased. 313 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,640 We had a meeting in the Oval Office. 314 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,920 And then we had the press conference in the White House afterwards 315 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,360 and returned to the ambassador's residence 316 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,720 and sat down and thought, "Oh, that seemed to go very well." 317 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,480 We knew we were walking a bit of a tightrope, 318 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,360 but were rather pleased that we'd pulled it off. 319 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:54,160 And then Theresa said, "Yes... 320 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,160 "but he did hold my hand at one point." 321 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,800 And we said, "What?" 322 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,840 And she said, "Yeah, he held my hand." 323 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,600 And we said, "OK, did anyone get that on camera?" 324 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,200 She said, "Yes." 325 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,120 We literally were just walking along, and he said, 326 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:10,040 "There's a little slope round the corner, take care." 327 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,520 And I thought, "Well, it's fine. 328 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,720 "My heels aren't that high, I'll be fine." 329 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,280 And next thing I knew, he was holding my hand as we walked down. 330 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,600 And of course, I wasn't able to reclaim my hand 331 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,960 before we got the television cameras of the world upon us. 332 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,480 Sure enough, the press captured the moment with relish. 333 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,200 The following year, 334 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,360 the Prime Minister would face a sterner diplomatic test. 335 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:39,960 NEWSREADER: Good evening, Scotland Yard's top anti-terrorist officer 336 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,640 has revealed it was a nerve agent 337 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,280 which poisoned former Russian double agent and his daughter. 338 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,520 Once I knew who the individual was, Sergei Skripal, 339 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,640 then, of course, the... you start thinking, 340 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,080 "Well, maybe there's something more that lies behind it." 341 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,800 We needed to get, to be effective, international support 342 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,120 before we... moved against the Russian state. 343 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:07,520 It was no good, just the UK expelling a number of people. 344 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,200 We needed other countries to do the same. 345 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,280 So, she had an initial conversation with President Trump, 346 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,600 which is probably the most disheartening conversation 347 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,360 we had with him in... the entire period, and... 348 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,400 "And what are the Europeans doing?" 349 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,240 He is always a little wary of... of 350 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,760 just saying, "America will stand alongside you." 351 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,080 And that's different, of course, 352 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,400 hence my comment about unpredictability. 353 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,880 and the dangers of not 354 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,360 clearly deterring this behaviour from Putin. 355 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:51,760 President Trump, then, to be fair to him, 356 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,600 took the most robust option of the ones 357 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,800 that have been offered up to him by his national security community. 358 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,320 Despite the Russians continuing to deny any part in the poisoning... 359 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,560 President Trump expels 60 Russian diplomats from the US. 360 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,720 She'd been Home Secretary for a number of years, 361 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,800 she understood these issues very, very well. 362 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,400 But the decision that would come to define her premiership 363 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,120 was whether to call a general election. 364 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,560 Her close advisers were in favour - 365 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,760 to increase her parliamentary majority, 366 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,000 and to get Brexit done. 367 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,200 Myself, Nick Timothy, Fiona Hill, and Joanna Penn, 368 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,880 one evening, after Downing Street 369 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,880 had been sort of largely emptied for the day, 370 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,400 went up to the flat the Prime Minister lived in. 371 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,720 And over a glass of wine and bowls of crisps, 372 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,320 sat with Theresa, and with her husband Philip... 373 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,800 and went through the arguments. 374 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,640 I think it's fair to say that, 375 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,240 erm, Theresa was pretty sceptical of the idea. 376 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,960 And so was Philip, actually. 377 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,240 It's really difficult to understand Theresa May 378 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,240 without understanding Philip 379 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,320 and the critical nature of that relationship. 380 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,160 They are... incredibly close couple. 381 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,000 For a decision like that, you need to be somewhere... 382 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,320 where you are sort of away from 383 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,760 the day-to-day of Number 10 Downing Street. 384 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,320 I thought about the 2017 general election 385 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,400 when we were walking in Wales... So... 386 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,200 ..that's what I was saying about it enabled you 387 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,160 just to have some time to think about things. 388 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,160 And if the polls were to be believed, 389 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,840 there was a possibility of getting a bigger majority. 390 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,920 APPLAUSE 391 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,480 And the choice... 392 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,600 is between five years of strong and stable leadership... 393 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,280 ..strong and stable leadership... 394 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320 ..strong and stable leadership 395 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,080 to take us through Brexit and beyond. 396 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,480 I made some mistakes during the election campaign. 397 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,240 I'm not sure that phrase was one of those. 398 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,400 I think it was there to draw a contrast, with Jeremy Corbyn, 399 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,080 who was the then leader of the Labour Party. 400 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,360 Oh, the entire campaign was a total disaster... 401 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:11,760 from day one. 402 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,200 She and her team around her decided early on 403 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,640 that it's gonna be a sort of presidential-style campaign. 404 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,800 It's all about Theresa May - 405 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,880 not the Conservatives, but about Theresa May. 406 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,600 It seems to me that prime ministers 407 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,760 are either good at campaigning or at governing. 408 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,880 The one after her was a very good campaigner and a hopeless governor. 409 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,520 And a vote for any other party 410 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,280 would be a vote for a weak and failing Jeremy Corbyn. 411 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,800 I believe in being out on the doorsteps. 412 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,440 I'm not a natural... stand with a factory background, 413 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,080 talking to a group of workers. 414 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,320 She was very frustrated. And I remember just thinking, 415 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,920 "Why don't you do something about it? 416 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,040 "You're the Prime Minister. Why don't you tell them? 417 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,200 "Why didn't you change it?" 418 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,600 And I can only blame myself for that. 419 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,720 The low point of the campaign comes after the manifesto launch, 420 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,800 and the introduction of the so-called dementia tax 421 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,760 to deal with the unsolved question 422 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,360 of how to fund the ever-rising social care bill. 423 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:14,360 The so-called dementia tax was very unpopular on doorsteps 424 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:17,040 and people were frightened of it, they thought it was going to mean 425 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,920 they would lose their houses. So, they opposed it. 426 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,640 After a hostile press response, 427 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,520 Theresa May is forced into a U-turn. 428 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,600 But to make things worse, she then denies she's made one. 429 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,400 Nothing has changed. 430 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,520 We are offering a long-term solution 431 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,160 for the sustainability of social care for the future. 432 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,880 And I think that... 433 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560 drove a coach and horses through her brand, really. 434 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,520 She was somebody who was... seen, until that point, 435 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,800 as quite sort of authentic and honest and... 436 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,560 erm... all those things. 437 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,120 And the moment there was a dissonance 438 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,720 between what she was saying, 439 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,280 I think people looked at that and thought, 440 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,680 "I'm not convinced by this person." 441 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,120 As election day approaches, the strain is beginning to show. 442 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,280 What's the naughtiest thing you ever did? 443 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,040 Oh, goodness me. 444 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,560 Erm, well, I suppose the... 445 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,480 Gosh. I... Do you know, I'm not quite sure... 446 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,080 There must have been a moment when... 447 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,680 Nobody is... Nobody is ever perfectly behaved, are they? 448 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,680 I mean, you know, I have to confess, when me and my friends 449 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,920 sort of used to run through the fields of wheat, 450 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,160 the farmers weren't too pleased about that. 451 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,480 I think there was a bit of a... heart sink. 452 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,480 Well, I think probably the naughtiest thing I've done 453 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,880 is answering that question. 454 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,800 And what we're saying is the Conservatives are the largest party. 455 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,320 Note, they don't have an overall majority at this stage. 456 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,800 # Oh, Jeremy Corbyn... # 457 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,440 ..the young voters who'd turned out in force for Labour... 458 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,200 # Oh, Jeremy Corbyn. # 459 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,280 Theresa May could have been a very consequential, 460 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,040 transformative prime minister. 461 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Had she been successful in that election... 462 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000 the country, now, would be in a much better place. 463 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,560 And I was angry about it. I probably still am. 464 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,400 Are you resigning, Prime Minister? 465 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,760 People started blaming other people. 466 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,760 And she, quite rightly, had to get rid of - 467 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,360 sounds a brutal term, but I mean, that is politics - 468 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,720 her two special advisers, 469 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,160 who had taken a very strong leadership role 470 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,120 in the manifesto and in the campaign. 471 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,600 Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill, her joint chiefs of staff, 472 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,800 resign within 48 hours. 473 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,800 REPORTER: Any comments, Nick and Fiona? 474 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,800 Are you out of a job? 475 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,800 Obviously you have to speak to the individuals concerned. 476 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,800 You have to think about the wider picture. 477 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,720 It is difficult when you've been... 478 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,360 working with people over a period of time, but... 479 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,720 there we are, that was a decision that I made. 480 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,760 It's interesting because a lot of people have a lot of love for her. 481 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,400 Erm... but I don't think she necessarily appreciated that, 482 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,760 she was very... it was very professional relationship 483 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,560 rather than... anything more than that. 484 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,160 And, I think sometimes she struggled to sort of relate 485 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,040 on that sort of emotional... level. 486 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:39,120 Within days of the election disaster, 487 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:43,200 the Prime Minister's ability to "relate on an emotional level" 488 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,880 was once again put to the test. 489 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,000 999. There's a dedicated line for this incident. 490 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,920 I went in that morning, 491 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,640 and we drove over and met with fire officers 492 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,120 who were at the base of the tower, 493 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:12,640 who she thanked for everything that they done. 494 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,840 They were very upset. 495 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,920 The fire was still smouldering above us. 496 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760 It was a devastating scene. 497 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,080 And then we returned to Number 10. 498 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,800 There was a decision to be made 499 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,400 about whether she should meet with some of the survivors, 500 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840 families, community groups. 501 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,160 And the advice from the Metropolitan Police 502 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,400 was that she shouldn't do so. 503 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,640 And we got that call badly wrong. 504 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,360 We served her very badly there 505 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,280 because it played on the perceptions that people already had 506 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,480 from the election campaign, 507 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,280 that, you know, she wasn't comfortable 508 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,240 with that kind of face-to-face contact. 509 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,720 I should've gone and met victims. 510 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,000 I recognise that. 511 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,080 CROWD SHOUTING 512 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,000 The next day, we went to St Clement's Church, 513 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200 which is at the foot of the tower, 514 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,160 and we met with residents of the tower 515 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,280 and the surrounding estate. 516 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,520 The tower block is more strong and stable than 517 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,280 that woman's government. She's racist. 518 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,440 She was hiding in the background with the police, 519 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,120 and now she wants to come round with the people. It's too late. 520 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,880 ELIZABETH SANDERSON: 'By this stage, 521 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,680 'the atmosphere was very, very, very difficult. 522 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,080 'It was very hot. Hot, sunny day. 523 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,480 'And it felt that we were on the verge of riots.' 524 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,640 One of the Grenfell survivors meeting the Prime Minister that day 525 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,160 was Nick Burton, who lived on the 19th floor of the tower, 526 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,600 but who'd miraculously managed to escape the fire 527 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,000 with his wife, Pilly, who suffered from dementia. 528 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960 And I thought, "OK, this is... The Prime Minister's here." 529 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,200 We sat down more in, like, a circle. 530 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,720 And I was directly facing Theresa. 531 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400 I truly believe that she was very emotional 532 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,640 and very kind of... really opened to what had just gone on. 533 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280 And then we heard a lot of noise outside. 534 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,520 And so, the community, erm... 535 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,960 ..got the knowledge 536 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160 that she was actually inside the church hall here. 537 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,440 And they were chanting and upset. 538 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,080 Theresa didn't want to stop it short 539 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,040 until it finally got to the point where the protection team said, 540 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,480 "Right, I'm sorry. That's it." 541 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,560 'We opened the door. 542 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,040 'People were kicking the car, 543 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,400 'and we managed to get her into the car and away.' 544 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,760 To see her welling up at the various points in the meeting, 545 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,720 to most of us there who... It doesn't quite fit the picture. 546 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,000 it sort of gets to you. 547 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,560 But, on the other hand, because of the role you're playing, 548 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,880 It's about those practical things 549 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,320 that need to be... that need to be put in place. 550 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,440 'In the statement in the Commons, she said, 551 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,240 ' "I will be there long after the cameras have left." ' 552 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Still to this day, 553 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840 if any of them call me from any of the different groups 554 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,280 and say, "We'd like to speak to Theresa about X," 555 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400 then I go and tell Theresa, and she says, 556 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480 "Yes," you know, "what can I do to help?" 557 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,320 But there was nothing to be done to save Nick Burton's wife, Pilly, 558 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,720 who never left hospital after the trauma of the fire. 559 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,920 It was just very difficult for her to understand, 560 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,720 you know, what happened. 561 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,440 All the time, "I wanna go home, I wanna go home, I wanna go home." 562 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,800 I said, "We haven't got a home." 563 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,840 And she counts as the 72nd and final victim? 564 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,400 Yeah, she had a heart attack. 565 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,080 And then she was on life support for a while. 566 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,320 'And then they just said, 567 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120 "Sorry, there's no coming back." ' 568 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,880 And then turned the life support off. 569 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,560 So she's number 72. 570 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,680 Thank you very much, Glastonbury. 571 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Thank you for inviting me here today. 572 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,720 After the disastrous election, 573 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,640 the pressure is on Theresa May 574 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,040 to put her premiership back on track. 575 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440 We actually spent a lot of time together talking about that speech 576 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,240 and working on it in a way that we probably haven't 577 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,560 on any other speech over the years. 578 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,240 Then, one day, we were having, actually, a casual conversation, 579 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,880 and she suddenly mentioned that... 580 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,520 one of her ancestors had been a sort of charlady, 581 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,880 sort of working below stairs. 582 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,640 And that's where she'd come from. 583 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,880 And I said, "Well, that's really interesting." 584 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,640 And she said, "Is it?" LAUGHS 585 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,080 "Yes, that's interesting. We can work with that. 586 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120 "That informs a bit of your thinking." 587 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,840 The issues one's dealing with are so serious 588 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,000 that I don't naturally put personal information into speeches. 589 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,640 I think to be a successful politician in... 590 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,440 this day and age, you do need to be able to bring 591 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,240 some emotional intelligence to the role. 592 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,000 Each new generation in our country 593 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,040 should be able to build a better future. 594 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,480 REPORTER: 'It was all going to plan. But then...' 595 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,680 Other than Grenfell, 596 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,200 that was probably the most difficult moment, for me, 597 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,720 to sit in that conference hall 598 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,120 on a speech that we all knew was a very important moment for her 599 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,400 in terms of trying to re-establish her authority. 600 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,400 'And then to find the combination of a comedian handing her 601 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,240 'a sort of P45.' 602 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,040 Boris, job's done. 603 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,760 'Some individual was able to approach the stage 604 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,080 'and present me with a P45 and claim that was from Boris Johnson.' 605 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,760 I was about to talk about somebody I'd like to give a P45 to, 606 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,720 and that's Jeremy Corbyn. CHEERING 607 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,440 My voice went wrong. 608 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,120 Why... COUGHS 609 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,320 Why we will nev... 610 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,640 COUGHS Excuse me. 611 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,160 And you would just kind of think, 612 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,760 "Will nothing go right for this person?" 613 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920 I hope you noticed that, ladies and gentlemen. 614 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,960 The Chancellor giving something away free. 615 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,200 LAUGHTER 616 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,760 'The trouble is it's one of those classic things, isn't it? 617 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,600 'You know, it happens in everyday life. 618 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,640 'One thing goes wrong, 619 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,280 'and then, suddenly, a whole string of things go wrong.' 620 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,760 Shows what good the Chancellor's cough sweet is. 621 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,600 LAUGHTER 622 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,560 'The letters on the stand behind me started falling off.' 623 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,120 It was a speech that, sadly, many people will remember, 624 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,880 but I wish I didn't have to remember. 625 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,120 'Coming ashore were wives and children 626 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,600 'of men already working here.' 627 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,080 # Try so hard to fulfil 628 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,640 # My destiny 629 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,880 # Ooh... # 630 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,720 Theresa May's experience as Home Secretary 631 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:25,320 could come back to plague her. 632 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,720 Especially the controversial hostile environment policy. 633 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,160 Ever since their arrival at the end of the Second World War, 634 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,640 at the invitation of the British Government, 635 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,040 the Windrush generation 636 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,920 had been given the status of British citizens - 637 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,040 though they hadn't always been issued the paperwork to prove it. 638 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,440 Over the years, and especially after 639 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,960 Theresa May's Immigration Acts of 2014 and '16, 640 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,480 the rules were tightened up. 641 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:59,120 # You know, it tore up my soul. # 642 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600 It was an attempt to try to ensure 643 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,960 that we could better identify those who were here illegally 644 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,760 and... and take action. 645 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,880 It is right that governments act 646 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,960 against people who are here illegally. 647 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,120 # Early morning 648 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,840 # Waking up before the sunrise... # 649 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,520 Michael Braithwaite was a victim of this hostile environment policy. 650 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,960 He'd been born in Barbados and arrived in the UK in 1960 651 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,920 as a nine-year-old. 652 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,080 You know, my whole life has been here. 653 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,920 I lived... We lived the British way. We do everything British. 654 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,880 For 15 years, he'd been working in a secondary school in North London 655 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,200 as a special needs teaching assistant. 656 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400 As part of the hostile environment policy, 657 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,920 he's asked out of the blue by the Education Authority 658 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,040 to prove his right to remain in the UK. 659 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,560 # To fulfil my destiny... # 660 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680 He said to me, well, you don't have a biometric card, 661 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,120 and you don't have a British citizenship. 662 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,720 So the only possible thing I could say 663 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,440 that you are deemed an illegal. 664 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,920 An illegal person. 665 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,800 And I was sitting there, like... 666 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,080 Inside, I was shaking. 667 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:29,000 My whole being was churning around on uncertainty of this situation. 668 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,160 He said to me, 669 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,440 "Look, I'll give you three months to sort out your status." 670 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Three months. 671 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,240 I don't... I fully accept that for individuals 672 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,720 who were caught up in this, it was absolutely horrendous. 673 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,840 People who had... 674 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,920 committed to the United Kingdom, who were part of our society, 675 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,800 who had contributed to the life of our country, 676 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,920 were suddenly being told they shouldn't be here. 677 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520 And obviously, that was absolutely wrong. 678 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,240 I got quite ill with the stress. 679 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:04,360 My headmaster signed me off cos he could see I was not... 680 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,360 There's no point me coming to work with this hammer in my head. 681 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,720 Michael then loses his job. 682 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:14,840 Though, by now, his story has been picked up by The Guardian 683 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,840 who run a series of exclusive reports on the scandal. 684 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,880 AMELIA GENTLEMAN: Michael Braithwaite 685 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,560 was incredibly disturbed to have lost the job 686 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,760 that he absolutely loved. 687 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,640 or a prison sentence. 688 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,040 This was after the second round of immigration changes 689 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,840 introduced by Theresa May 690 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,280 that had made it very, very worrying for employers to hire anybody 691 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,600 who was unable to prove their immigration status. 692 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,880 The pressure builds on Theresa May 693 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,680 as the Commonwealth Heads of State arrive in London 694 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,160 for their biennial conference. 695 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,800 They were conscious of the real suffering 696 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,960 that a lot of people 697 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,080 who had been born in their countries 698 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,800 were experiencing as a result of this scandal. 699 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,280 And they were furious. 700 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,160 I take this issue very seriously. 701 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,640 The Home Secretary apologised at the House of Commons yesterday 702 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,400 for any anxiety caused. 703 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,800 And I want to apologise to you today. 704 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,400 The Home Secretary at the time is Amber Rudd, 705 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,320 who'd inherited the job and the hostile environment regime 706 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,480 from her predecessor, Theresa May. 707 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,440 AMBER RUDD: Terrible stories. Terrible stories of injustice. 708 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,600 And it was right that I had to resign over it. 709 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,120 It was a shocking miscarriage. 710 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,840 INTERVIEWER: You didn't feel for a moment 711 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,840 you had been effectively made the scapegoat 712 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,960 for what were actually, in practice, her policies? 713 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640 No, I didn't feel that I was the scapegoat. 714 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,800 I felt that I was the Secretary of State in charge 715 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,800 when this series of terrible events were revealed. 716 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,080 And so I should resign. 717 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,360 AMELIA GENTLEMAN: There are two scenarios. 718 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,280 Either Theresa May was oblivious, in which case, 719 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440 she wasn't really on top of her brief, 720 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,440 or she did know, 721 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,360 but she didn't think that the kinds of people 722 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,200 who were likely to be affected by this policy, 723 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,320 wrongly, were people 724 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,080 who she particularly needed to worry about. 725 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,960 INTERVIEWER: Should it have been clearer earlier? 726 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,320 Should it have been clear to you, for instance, 727 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,000 whilst still Home Secretary? 728 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000 Well, as you can imagine, 729 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,560 because of the impact that this had on individuals, 730 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,560 it is an issue where I've sort of asked myself and looked back. 731 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,080 Should we in the Home Office have had a greater sense 732 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,800 of trying to identify whether there were other people, 733 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,560 people who were going to get caught up in this way? 734 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,520 I don't believe that question was ever asked. 735 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,120 And that's what lay behind the problems. 736 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,320 And you were in charge of the Home Office at the time? 737 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,480 I was, and as Home Secretary, you take responsibility. 738 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600 You're the captain of the ship. 739 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,440 If you don't know your structure or what's going to be implemented, 740 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,400 well, that means you really don't care. 741 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,440 I don't know how you can sleep at night cos I... 742 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,360 I still can't sleep at night properly, 743 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,240 and I'm not in your position. 744 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,640 Michael, who we spoke to, 745 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520 thought you probably should have resigned. 746 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,000 I... 747 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,480 That may very well be... 748 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,520 May very well be Michael's... Michael's view. 749 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,840 And I'm sorry that this wasn't seen earlier, 750 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,840 and we weren't able to deal with it in an earlier stage. 751 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,560 I've heard that many times now, this word "sorry" being mentioned, 752 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,960 but it's a slap in the face. 753 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,520 Every time, it's a slap in the face. 754 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,640 How are you? SIMON: Very good. 755 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,080 How was your journey? Horrendous? 756 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,880 Not too bad, but at least I wasn't driving. 757 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,200 LAUGHTER 758 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680 PHOTOGRAPHER: If can you look as though you know who Simon is. 759 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,600 LAUGHTER 760 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440 And you're doing a documentary too, for ITV? 761 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,520 Yes. Good. Good. 762 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,680 Warts and all? LAUGHTER 763 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400 Sadly, probably yes. 764 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,200 'This was your coin. 765 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,880 'This was your moment to shine, right? 766 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,520 'And then there was Brexit. 767 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,680 'Well, I was about to say. I thought you were going to say that, yes.' 768 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,320 I mean, there were a good number of my colleagues 769 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,880 who had either voted Remain or were Brexiteers, who said, 770 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,560 "We accept the need to compromise, and want to go through with it." 771 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,440 But you've got these two elements on either side 772 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,440 who took a different view, I'm afraid. 773 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,480 And it is a problem in politics today. 774 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,400 NARRATOR: In the end, it was Brexit that overshadowed everything else 775 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,320 during Theresa May's time in Number 10, 776 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,880 especially after the catastrophic 2017 general election. 777 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,080 The problem with that election 778 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,640 DAMIAN GREEN: There were clearly people 779 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,320 who were not necessarily predisposed to be particularly helpful 780 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,720 to the Prime Minister inside her Cabinet. 781 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:43,960 So that added to the gaiety of trying to keep them all on track. 782 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,960 Sadly, I have to say, 783 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,120 I think sometimes there are too many people sitting 784 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,840 around the Cabinet table who harbour ambitions 785 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,360 and often not too quietly either. 786 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,880 INTERVIEWER: Who do you have in mind? 787 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,960 I think you could look at any reports of politics 788 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,480 over recent years, 789 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,560 and you'll see plenty of reports of people, 790 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,880 in quotes, "jockeying for position". 791 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,520 Including your successor? 792 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,400 Erm... I don't normally comment on my successor. 793 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,080 Lack of trust around the Cabinet table about Brexit 794 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,400 breeds an atmosphere of suspicion 795 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,400 that the Prime Minister struggles to control. 796 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,080 She knew that there were people sitting around that Cabinet table 797 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,480 who couldn't wait to get out to leak the contents 798 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,240 of Cabinet meetings. 799 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:31,760 I think we made the joke at the time, 800 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,320 we may as well have live-streamed them 801 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,200 cos they got out very, very quickly. 802 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,240 Could I check you haven't picked up any papers from the table? 803 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,880 INDISTINCT CHATTER Thank you. 804 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,280 Can I just check you haven't got any papers? 805 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,280 To not have Cabinets leak, 806 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,680 you have to enable people around that table 807 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,600 to have a stake in the decisions that are made. 808 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,400 And if you don't allow that, 809 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,720 then that causes people to go off and do their own thing. 810 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,800 INTERVIEWER: Like Boris Johnson? 811 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,960 I know that he was very frustrated at many points 812 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,120 during that... that whole era. 813 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,760 We had a lot of leaks from Cabinet meetings, 814 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,040 so it was important to be careful. 815 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,520 rather than a participant. 816 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,720 And she would listen, poker face, just listen. 817 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,320 And I would be none the wiser when the meetings finish. 818 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,280 Quite often, she wouldn't even say anything. 819 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,320 And one of her staffers would say, "We'll get back to you." 820 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,960 INTERVIEWER: And did you emerge at the end knowing what she thought? 821 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,080 We very rarely knew what the Prime Minister thought. 822 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,760 It's not for the person in charge 823 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,600 or the person chairing that meeting to go in and just bombastically say, 824 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,320 "My view is X. You're all going to do it." 825 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,160 And particularly on a subject like this 826 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,680 where there was such sharply differing views. 827 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,960 And rightly, I brought those views around the table. 828 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,040 NARRATOR: By the summer of 2018, 829 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,280 it's time for the Prime Minister to reveal her hand. 830 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,520 After months of secrecy and negotiations with the EU, 831 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,880 she invites her Cabinet to Chequers, 832 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,640 including Boris Johnson, her Foreign Secretary, 833 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,200 and David Davis, her Brexit Secretary, 834 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,960 to get their approval for her Brexit plan. 835 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,760 What Chequers was about 836 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,360 And I would describe it as a compromise. 837 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,160 A compromise between there were some people 838 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,720 who wanted to see the UK stay in the single market 839 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,000 and, or, the customs union, 840 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,440 therefore, very close to the EU. 841 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,600 And there were others. 842 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,440 Boris Johnson latterly became an example of this, 843 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,160 who wanted to sort of break away 844 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,600 and have just a standard free trade agreement. 845 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,760 It was an awkward compromise to try and achieve that. 846 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:11,800 On the day of Chequers, even Boris Johnson was, 847 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,000 you know, telling everyone how brilliant, you know, 848 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,000 this deal was and what a masterstroke it was. 849 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,920 In detailed discussions today, 850 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,160 the Cabinet has agreed our collective position 851 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,600 on the future of our negotiations with the EU. 852 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080 But this was evidently not the way 853 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:32,000 the more ardent Brexiteers saw the events of the day. 854 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,840 I think we all went there in good faith 855 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,120 to try and get the best outcome possible. 856 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,040 And actually, the Chequers document itself, 857 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,120 there were four paragraphs in it 858 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,360 that if you had made some small changes to, 859 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,960 you would have just kept more options open. 860 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,080 And that, indeed, was the preferred way forward 861 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,800 of David Davis at the time. 862 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,040 Halfway through the meeting, Gavin Barwell waved at me 863 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,880 and asked me to come outside of the Cabinet meeting with him. 864 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,880 We walked down the corridor, and we actually ended up in a room, 865 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,000 which turned out to be the Prime Minister's bedroom, 866 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,440 er... strangely enough. 867 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,720 And he said, 868 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:23,120 "What are those four paragraphs that we could change?" 869 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,480 So I talked him through it, 870 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,760 explained how that would just give you more options. 871 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,360 And he said, "We can't do that 872 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,920 "because she's already agreed the text with Merkel." 873 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,560 And I just left incredibly depressed because it... 874 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,640 it said to me that... 875 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,520 no matter what the goodwill and the effort 876 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,440 that was being made by colleagues 877 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,280 to help her get this to the best place, 878 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,720 it was futile. 879 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,360 I genuinely felt we'd accomplished something. 880 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,280 We've ended the day with a dinner. 881 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,600 And, you know, there were people standing up at the dinner 882 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,720 and expressing their wholehearted support... 883 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:13,040 including some of those who then resigned. 884 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,640 David rang me and said, "Oh, no. I've gotta go." 885 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,320 So, Chequers was a terrible day. 886 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,080 It was a blow because David was a serious Cabinet Minister. 887 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,080 He'd... He was a thoughtful Brexiteer, 888 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,720 and he'd done a good job in his department. 889 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:38,400 So I was sorry that he didn't feel able to carry on. 890 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,280 INTERVIEWER: And were you surprised when, 891 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,800 24 or so hours later, Boris Johnson resigned too? 892 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,160 I'm not inside Boris's mind, 893 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,800 but I think it was interesting that it was after David had resigned 894 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,880 that he then decided to resign. 895 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,600 REPORTER: Do you think the Prime Minister 896 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,400 can deliver a Brexit deal? 897 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,800 GAVIN BARWELL: Boris Johnson felt he had to 898 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,440 because he couldn't allow anyone else 899 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,520 to become the kind of leader of the sort of Eurosceptic wing 900 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,680 of the Tory Party. 901 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,080 So, there was this kind of absurd 25 minute conversation 902 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,560 between him and the Prime Minister. 903 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,120 In the end, she had said to him "Look, I'm in a bit of a rush. 904 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,120 "Are you actually telling me you're resigning?" 905 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,560 Boris Johnson in particular carried a lot of weight in the party. 906 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,120 He had a lot of the followers amongst both MPs and members. 907 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,040 And I think his resignation of the two was hugely significant. 908 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,320 CHEERING 909 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,520 Once the people who were opposed to Chequers within the party 910 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,160 had Boris as a leader, 911 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,680 the job was gonna become much more difficult. 912 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,640 And you had someone who wasn't just opposing the Brexit deal, 913 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,560 This is the moment to chuck Chequers... 914 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:59,280 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 915 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,800 THEY SING 916 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,160 NARRATOR: By now, distractions from Brexit 917 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,120 were few and far between for the Prime Minister. 918 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,800 THEY SING 919 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,080 REPORTER: If you were a judge on Strictly Come Dancing, 920 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,560 how would you score your dancing this morning? 921 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,320 SHE LAUGHS 922 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,120 I suspect my dancing this morning 923 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,080 might not quite make it onto Strictly. 924 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,480 MUSIC: 'Dancing Queen' by ABBA 925 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,480 ELIZABETH: There is something about Theresa May's dancing, isn't there? 926 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,760 I mean, if I say that I work with, or for, Theresa May, 927 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,120 people pretty quickly get to the dancing. 928 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,160 So, I think it's, erm... 929 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,720 People identify her with it now in the way 930 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:48,360 that they used to identify her leopard skin, pointy shoes. 931 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,440 'Nobody knew I was going to do that, 932 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,080 'and I didn't know I was going to do that 933 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,880 'until standing behind the scenes. 934 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,320 And the music was ABBA music, and I thought, 935 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,840 "Right, I'm just going to, you know." 936 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,000 Last year... 937 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,800 everything went wrong. 938 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,600 I wanted to, you know, just show a bit of... bit more fun. 939 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,520 MAN: What do we want? ALL: Brexit! 940 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,560 When do we want it? Now! 941 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,960 By the late autumn of 2018, 942 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,240 the Prime Minister can no longer hold her party together. 943 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,560 Watch it! 944 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,120 This is BINO or BRINO or Brexit in name only. 945 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,640 The Cabinet's out here trying to make the case 946 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,400 for why we need to get behind Theresa May 947 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,600 because we all believe that. 948 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,760 The active campaigning 949 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,400 the anti Prime Minister group. 950 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,120 That was Boris and Jacob Rees-Mogg 951 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,320 and, erm, Suella Braverman. 952 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,480 Just the kind of the hard right of the party 953 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:57,640 who decided that their future lay in opposing any sort of compromise. 954 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,280 when the final terms of the Withdrawal Agreement 955 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,440 were published. 956 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,280 And there were a number of resignations at that time, 957 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,000 and that's when it really started to collapse. 958 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,280 And from that point onwards, it was downhill, really, 959 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,640 for Theresa May. 960 00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:22,240 And so it was to prove. 961 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,400 Although the Prime Minister survives the ministerial resignations 962 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,560 and a vote of no confidence initiated by her own MPs, 963 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,040 by the start of 2019, 964 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,920 she can no longer delay the inevitable 965 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,600 as the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement is put to the vote. 966 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,960 The aye's to the right - 202. 967 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,240 The no's to the left - 432. 968 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:48,120 So the no's have it. The no's have it. 969 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,400 Unlock! 970 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,480 The extent was perhaps a little surprising. 971 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,680 I knew it was highly likely to go against me. 972 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,520 But it... You know... 973 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,360 Spectacular is often used in a positive sense. 974 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,680 In this one, it wasn't positive to have a defeat like that. 975 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,880 The country is in tumult. 976 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,040 This is not Brexit. 977 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,840 This is a failure of government policy. 978 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,040 It needs to be rejected. It's a trap. 979 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,120 And although the government narrows the gap 980 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,080 on the subsequent two parliamentary votes, 981 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,440 it's too big to close. 982 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,400 So despite winning the belated support of Boris Johnson 983 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,640 and David Davis, among others, 984 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,800 she fails to win over a hard core of opponents 985 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,040 on both the Remain and Brexit sides. 986 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,120 I voted against it once, twice, three times. 987 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,640 And I was very glad that, ultimately, we defeated it, 988 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,720 and we stopped Theresa May's Brexit from being delivered. 989 00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,960 I'm very proud of 27 other colleagues and myself 990 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,280 who held out on principle, 991 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:07,600 despite excruciating pressure within Parliament to do otherwise. 992 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,760 INTERVIEWER: At the time, 993 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,960 did you consider it a personal betrayal? 994 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,280 I don't use terms like that. 995 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,120 Politics is politics. People had a different view. 996 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,360 They... I think there were many Brexiteers who, 997 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,760 not to put too fine a point on it, 998 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,720 didn't like a Remainer being in charge of Brexit. 999 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,120 Looking back, 1000 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,200 could the Prime Minister have done more to hold the party together? 1001 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,880 A quintessential constituency MP, 1002 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,160 she was perhaps more at home in the Maidenhead Conservative Club 1003 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,200 than with her parliamentary colleagues. 1004 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,760 Lovely. Thank you very much. Thank you. 1005 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,360 Maybe if I'd spent more time with individuals 1006 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,840 talking them through what I was aiming to do, 1007 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,400 then possibly, it might've gone a different way. 1008 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,520 After a final forlorn attempt to win support for her deal 1009 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,160 from Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party, 1010 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,520 Theresa May feels she has no choice but to resign. 1011 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,760 JOANNA PENN: And at that point, there were no other options left. 1012 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,960 And I remember being in her parliamentary office 1013 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,040 and reflecting... that to her. 1014 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,320 I knew that we'd reached the end of the road. 1015 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,320 Over a short period of time, 1016 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,360 it just became clearer that I wasn't going to be able 1017 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,120 to get the deal through, and that, therefore, 1018 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,680 it would be right for me to step aside. 1019 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,880 That was a very brutal day. 1020 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,960 Westminster at its most brutal. 1021 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,120 'Until you step down, 1022 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,840 'you don't realise how stressful the role has been.' 1023 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,680 So there is that that sense of a slight sense of freedom. 1024 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,400 And hey, I was able to go and watch some cricket. 1025 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,000 That can't be bad. 1026 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:05,920 If you step back and take a historic look at it, 1027 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,200 Boris should have done Brexit, 1028 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,120 And then for COVID, 1029 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,720 and all the different demands you needed to get through that, 1030 00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:18,280 then Theresa would've been absolutely ideal. 1031 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,880 Well, you can't sort of fit a prime minister to a circumstance. 1032 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,520 And you have to deal with the circumstances that you find. 1033 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,200 I will always think that the agreement that I got, 1034 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,640 the deal that I got was a better one. 1035 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,720 The deal that we now have is pretty close 1036 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,320 to what I had agreed. 1037 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,560 But, then, as President Truman once said, 1038 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,720 "You can achieve anything you want in this life 1039 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,680 "as long as you don't mind who takes the credit." 1040 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,120 Hello, Mrs May. Hello there. 1041 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,360 This is for you. 1042 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,720 Would you like this to somebody? To Michael and Sharon? 1043 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,120 He's got political aspirations. 1044 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,560 I don't know if you could say, wish him luck. Yes. 1045 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,800 I've got a chapter on Brexit. 1046 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:01,880 Do you? Yes. Yes. 1047 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,720 Only just one? Only just one, yes. 1048 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,560 Do you mind if take a picture with you...? Yep. 1049 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,880 Oh, yeah. Thank you. 1050 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:12,000 All prime ministers leave office feeling their work is incomplete. 1051 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,840 And even if they write their own memoirs, 1052 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,680 they can rarely control the verdict of posterity. 1053 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,760 Thank you very much. Bye now. Sold out. 1054 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,040 LAUGHTER Sold out. 1055 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,960 It's something that all prime ministers struggle with. 1056 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,200 When the public think about prime ministers, 1057 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,840 they tend to remember one thing. 1058 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,560 And for Theresa, it's gonna be, she couldn't get Brexit through. 1059 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,000 And for David Cameron, it's gonna be losing the referendum. 1060 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,760 For Tony Blair, it's gonna be the Iraq war. 1061 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,640 But that's the way politics works. 1062 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,920 What former prime ministers can still do 1063 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,520 is hold their successors to account for their performance and conduct. 1064 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,520 Especially ones who'd plotted to remove them. 1065 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,400 So either my right honourable friend had not read the rules 1066 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,960 or didn't understand what they meant, 1067 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,440 and others around him. 1068 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,840 Or they didn't think the rules applied to Number Ten. 1069 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,240 Which was it? 1070 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,520 Sadly, over the years, 1071 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,600 there has come to be more of a sense from the public 1072 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,280 that it is one rule for the politicians 1073 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,840 and another rule for everybody else. 1074 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,400 Partygate brought this into sharp focus. 1075 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,160 AMBER RUDD: What followed was sort of mayhem. 1076 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,600 And I think, by comparison, 1077 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,160 people probably do respect Theresa May as prime minister more. 1078 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,360 In March this year, 1079 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,840 Theresa May called it a day on her career as an MP. 1080 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,320 I launched the Global Commission 1081 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,400 on Modern Slavery and Human Trafficking, 1082 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,720 and suddenly realised that, 1083 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,120 that was going to take more of my time than I'd expected. 1084 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,320 I mean, I've been an MP for 27 years. 1085 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,720 I spent quite a while becoming an MP, 1086 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,880 trying to get a seat and then being selected. 1087 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,760 So, of course, it was a difficult decision. 1088 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,760 Theresa May, the vicar's daughter. 1089 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,800 Few doubt her decency or her commitment to public service. 1090 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,080 But in an age where leaders are judged 1091 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,000 just as much for their ability to communicate their feelings, 1092 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,080 she failed to win sufficient support to achieve her Brexit goals. 1093 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,240 INTERVIEWER: Why did you agree to do this programme? 1094 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,640 I want people to have the opportunity 1095 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,800 to learn a bit of what it's like. 1096 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,440 But also perhaps to... 1097 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:38,840 ..try to set out that politicians genuinely do want 1098 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,120 to improve things for people, 1099 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,360 improve people's lives, see social justice. 1100 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,720 Even if it means having to answer annoying questions 1101 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:47,960 from annoying people like me? 1102 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,000 There weren't too many questions about how I felt, 1103 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,560 but there were some. 1104 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,360 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 90538

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