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CLAPPER LOADER: OK. One, take one.
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INDISTINCT CHATTER
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I will shortly leave the job
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that it has been the honour
of my life to hold.
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The second female prime minister,
but certainly not the last.
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The hardest thing you have to do
as a chief of staff
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is to tell your boss,
"The game is up."
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So, I am today announcing
that I will resign
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as leader of
the Conservative and Unionist Party.
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'It was incredibly frustrating.'
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There were still things
that I wanted to do.
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I do so with no ill will
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but with enormous
and enduring gratitude
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to have had the opportunity
to serve the country I love.
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'I was frustrated with myself
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'because my voice only caught right
at the very end of the speech.'
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My, then, chief of staff,
Gavin Barwell,
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did say to me when I went in...
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I said,
"I shouldn't have done that."
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And I sort of slightly blew my top
and fairly robustly said
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that for two years
I'd encouraged her
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to show a bit more of her emotion
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and what she's actually like
as a person.
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And she absolutely should not be
apologising for being a bit upset.
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And I just said to him, "That's not
how the press will see it."
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that was the one thing
they focused on.
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PENNY MORDAUNT:
That was a very brutal day.
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Westminster at its most brutal.
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The first female prime minister
also left office
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with tears in her eyes.
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It became impossible for me.
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And I think that, ultimately,
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there were quite a few
of my colleagues
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who probably didn't quite trust
a Remainer delivering Brexit.
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They wanted a Brexiteer
to deliver it.
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I think one thing about Theresa
is that she's incredibly shy
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and doesn't like the job
of communicating,
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doesn't like the job of selling.
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Oh, the entire campaign
was a total disaster from day one.
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INTERVIEWER: Is it a disadvantage
in a leading politician
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to be an introvert?
Yes.
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The no's to the left - 432.
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This is not Brexit.
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Under Chequers, you lose control.
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So, the no's have it.
The no's have it.
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GAVIN: He phoned up to say
he was resigning
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but wasn't quite able
to get the words out of his mouth.
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In the end, she had said to say,
"Look, I'm in a bit of a rush.
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"Are you telling me
you're resigning?"
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INTERVIEWER: At the time,
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did you consider it
a personal betrayal?
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I don't use terms like that.
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I think history
will remember Theresa
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as a dedicated public servant
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who...
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was probably in the wrong job
at the wrong time.
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Given what's followed...
SHE CHUCKLES
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..her reputation is enhanced.
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I mean, I didn't know at the time
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that truth and decency
wasn't always going to be part
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of a prime minister's make-up.
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I don't miss it in the sense
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that life is a little easier
these days.
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And I don't think you realise
the stress until you step down,
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and then you recognise the stress
that you were under.
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That's 500.
That's 500?
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Right, I might take a break at 500.
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NARRATOR: Theresa May has stepped
away from front-line politics.
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But she has written an account
of her time in office
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and granted us exclusive access
to film with her.
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Brilliant.
I mean, this is just mind-boggling.
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Told mainly
from inside the Conservative Party,
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by critics as well as friends,
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this is the story of her
fateful political career at the top.
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Last one! Wahey!
Wahey!
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Well done.
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To understand Theresa May's approach
to politics,
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it helps to understand her roots.
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Welcome to the world
of her constituency...
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and her kitchen.
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This is a book that Philip gave me
at Christmas.
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It's different recipes from...
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It's called
Food Of France's Borderlands.
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I do have rather a lot
of cookery books.
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Of course, Alain Roux
has a restaurant in my constituency.
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And also in my constituency,
Caldesi.
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I've got several
of their cookery books, Italian.
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Really, really good.
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INTERVIEWER: So, where does
the interest in cooking stem from?
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My grandmother was quite a good cook
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but a very sort of basic cook.
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I used to enjoy
some of her puddings, particularly.
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My mother didn't have
that great an interest in cooking.
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So maybe that's why I started
having such an interest,
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sort of thought I'd take over
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My father was a clergyman.
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I think it's true to say
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that my parents
always voted Conservative,
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but my father was very clear
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that, as a vicar, he represented
everybody in his parish.
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So I think that sense that
his was a job
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where he was there for other people
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was something that was
sort of instilled in me.
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There was always that sense
that I could be what I wanted to be,
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that there was nothing
that should hold me back
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simply because I was a girl.
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Looking back,
I feel I should have been
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just that little bit more confident.
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Perhaps "less shy"
would be a better description.
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She goes to Oxford in the mid 1970s,
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where women are still
something of a novelty.
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There she meets her husband, Philip.
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Well, we were both interested
in politics.
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But I have to say,
I think the attraction
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was rather more than
just the politics.
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Theresa and Philip get married.
He goes into the City.
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She, via the Bank of England
and a spell as a local councillor
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in south London,
into national politics,
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standing in Maidenhead during
Tony Blair's 1997 landslide win.
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Thank you. Would you like a balloon?
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Theresa Mary May
has been duly elected
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to serve as a member
for the said constituency.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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CHEERING
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NEWSREADER: 'Tony Blair's majority
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'is the largest ever won
by a Labour leader.'
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'Do you think they'll send you
to charm school
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'or image-making classes?'
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'You mean I need to go
to charm school?
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'No, I don't think so.'
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By now, both her parents have died.
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It's one of the great sadnesses is
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that neither of them was able
to see me as a Member of Parliament.
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When the Conservatives regain power
under David Cameron,
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she is made Home Secretary -
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one of the most senior jobs
in the government.
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By now, she has earned a reputation
as a Tory moderniser.
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But she remains
something of an outsider.
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I don't think she was part
of the boys' curry Friday night
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or whatever it was that they had.
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but I don't think she was
necessarily part of that gang.
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Nor was she always seen as
the most collegiate of colleagues.
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I found her style,
I would say, very uncompromising.
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I mean, she was completely
obviously on top of her brief,
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but, you know, wanted things her way
and only her way.
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And then I'm sure, actually, that,
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when she eventually became
prime minister,
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that many of her cabinet
sort of thought,
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well, this is how SHE did things.
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You know, there was
a sort of lack of teamwork.
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So maybe that's... You know,
that set the tone for them.
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CORRESPONDENT: 'Polite applause was
about as friendly as it got here.
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'The Home Secretary
and the Police Federation
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'don't exactly see eye-to-eye.'
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Theresa May was not afraid
to make enemies,
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even among
the Tories' natural allies.
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I do not want
to have to impose change on you,
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because I want you to show
the public
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that you want to change.
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When she was Home Secretary, she had
that extraordinary speech she made
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Home Secretary,
I believe you're a disgrace.
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APPLAUSE
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Shameful and dishonourable.
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When you're appointed
Home Secretary, it's kind of...
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Well, the good news is you're
Home Secretary.
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The bad news, you're speaking to
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the Police Federation conference
next week.
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But her biggest challenge
as Home Secretary
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is to deliver David Cameron's pledge
to cut immigration numbers.
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This is not just about making the UK
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a more hostile place
for illegal migrants,
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it is also about fairness.
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Underpinning her immigration policy
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is the so-called
"hostile environment".
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Particularly controversial
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is a scheme introduced
in several London boroughs
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to deter illegal immigrants.
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White vans with the caption,
"Go home or face arrest."
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I thought that that particular
approach with the vans,
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the messaging,
was just a wrong approach
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because I think it's damaging
to community relations,
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and I think there were better ways
to tackle this issue.
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As Home Secretary, obviously I take
responsibility for what was done
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within my department.
But I think what the...
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And it was wrong, and we stopped it.
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We realised
after a fairly short period of time
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that we needed to stop that.
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It was a policy that would come back
to haunt her as prime minister.
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REPORTER: This is a misleading bus.
That's what goes to Brussels.
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Totally right. That is
what goes to Brussels a week.
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Think what we could do
with another £350 million.
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What changes everything
in British politics,
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and for Theresa May,
is the Brexit Referendum.
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Well, I think, from everything
I've seen as Home Secretary,
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that we will be more secure
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if we stay
within the European Union.
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She's a Remainer
but not a prominent one.
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'I thought,
during the referendum campaign,
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'she was incredibly quiet.'
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And if I think back to why...
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But I think maybe even then,
she was probably, you know,
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I'd actually say,
smart enough to sort of think,
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"Actually, you know what?
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"This might go horribly wrong
for David Cameron.
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"He might end up resigning.
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"And then I'm gonna go
for the leadership.
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"And if I stay out of it
and sort of sit on the fence,
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"then I might be a more
appealing candidate to both sides."
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But the core of the campaign,
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the centre, including Number 10,
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didn't want immigration
to be the issue
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for the Remain side of the campaign.
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And of course, I was Home Secretary.
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The British people have spoken,
and the answer is, "We're out".
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CHEERING
It's a victory for ordinary people.
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I believe we now have
a glorious opportunity.
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I think it took everyone
by surprise.
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And not just the result, but then
David's decision to stand down.
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I hadn't expected that to happen.
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I was at home, I think,
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and suddenly, you know,
the news came,
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and it said David was coming out.
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And he came out with Samantha.
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And I thought,
"Oh. I've got a feeling
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"I know what this is going to be."
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But it was quite a shock.
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But I do not think it would be right
for me to try to be the captain
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that steers our country
to its next destination.
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is this something
that you want to pursue?
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People around me spoke to me
about it.
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And whether, you know,
I would throw my hat in the ring.
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And, well, as you know, I did.
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APPLAUSE
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She was not the bookies' favourite.
But he didn't last long.
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Having consulted colleagues
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and in view of the circumstances
in Parliament,
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I have concluded
that person cannot be me.
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With Boris Johnson out of the race,
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Andrea Leadsom and Theresa May
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are the last two candidates
standing.
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But after a controversial interview
in The Times,
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in which Andrea Leadsom
seems to suggest
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her rival is less qualified
for the job
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because she doesn't have children,
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she apologises
and withdraws from the contest.
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I thought it was
an unfortunate thing to say.
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Hurtful?
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Erm, I mean, it's difficult
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because obviously
we don't have children,
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haven't been able to have children.
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The Right Honourable Mrs Theresa May
is the only remaining candidate.
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The process is now
that I must formally confirm
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that Mrs May is the new leader
of the Conservative Party.
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'So, the tradition is
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'that the Prime Minister goes
through the famous door
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'and walks down the corridor,
clapped in by all the staff.
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'Then you end up
in the Cabinet Room,
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'which is at the end
of that corridor.'
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And there was definitely
that moment of "what next?"
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And no-one really knew
quite what to say.
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Is there a bit of you thinking,
"Oh, my God, how did this happen?
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"I wasn't expecting this,
and it's almost accidental
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"that it's happened."
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Well, I put myself up
for the leadership.
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I'd had to give thought
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to whether I really felt
it was right for me to do that.
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The decisions that
we take around this table
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affect people's day-to-day lives.
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And we have the challenge of Brexit,
and Brexit...
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From the start of her time
in Number 10,
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the shadow of Brexit looms.
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But we won't be a government
that's defined just by Brexit.
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As a remainer,
the Prime Minister is careful
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to include prominent Brexiteers
in her Cabinet.
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BANGING ON TABLE
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'What were the particular qualities
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'that the Foreign Secretary brought
to the job?'
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Well, he'd led the Brexit campaign.
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I think it was important
that he had a key role
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within the Cabinet
and was sitting around that table.
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In a way, Theresa May
was left holding the baby,
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was not going to lead us
into delivering it.
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She'd become leader of the party
without, really, a contest.
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And so she felt the need
to reassure Brexiteers
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that she could be trusted
to deliver on this issue.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Having voted to leave,
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I know that the public will soon
expect to see on the horizon
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the point at which
Britain does formally leave
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the European Union.
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So, let me be absolutely clear.
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There will be no unnecessary delays
in invoking Article 50.
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I think there was
enormous pressure on her
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to trigger Article 50 before
she perhaps was ready to do so.
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Brexit means Brexit.
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And we're going to make
a success of it.
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It wasn't about me,
as a Remainer, going out there
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in order to persuade people
that I was going to do Brexit.
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It was my absolutely firm belief
that the people had voted,
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and we should deliver
what the people had voted for.
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The position held for now,
but, as the prime minister,
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Theresa May has to win friends
and influence people abroad too.
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Her biggest challenge:
the new American President.
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'I think the one word I would use
for Donald Trump is unpredictable.'
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And obviously, the relationship
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between the Prime Minister
and President varies
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according to the personalities
of the individuals.
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But you want
to have some certainty
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about how somebody
is going to react to something.
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And unpredictability
is difficult to deal with.
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And it's a great honour
to have Winston Churchill back.
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Well, thank you, Mr President.
We're very pleased.
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We had a meeting in the Oval Office.
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And then we had the press conference
in the White House afterwards
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and returned
to the ambassador's residence
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and sat down and thought,
"Oh, that seemed to go very well."
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We knew we were walking
a bit of a tightrope,
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but were rather pleased
that we'd pulled it off.
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And then Theresa said, "Yes...
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"but he did hold my hand
at one point."
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And we said, "What?"
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And she said,
"Yeah, he held my hand."
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And we said, "OK, did anyone
get that on camera?"
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She said, "Yes."
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We literally were
just walking along, and he said,
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"There's a little slope
round the corner, take care."
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And I thought, "Well, it's fine.
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"My heels aren't that high,
I'll be fine."
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And next thing I knew, he was
holding my hand as we walked down.
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And of course,
I wasn't able to reclaim my hand
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before we got the television cameras
of the world upon us.
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Sure enough, the press captured
the moment with relish.
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The following year,
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the Prime Minister would face
a sterner diplomatic test.
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NEWSREADER: Good evening, Scotland
Yard's top anti-terrorist officer
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has revealed it was a nerve agent
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which poisoned former Russian
double agent and his daughter.
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Once I knew who the individual was,
Sergei Skripal,
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then, of course, the...
you start thinking,
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"Well, maybe there's something more
that lies behind it."
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We needed to get, to be effective,
international support
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before we...
moved against the Russian state.
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It was no good, just the UK
expelling a number of people.
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We needed other countries
to do the same.
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So, she had an initial conversation
with President Trump,
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which is probably
the most disheartening conversation
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we had with him in...
the entire period, and...
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"And what are the Europeans doing?"
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He is always a little wary of... of
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just saying,
"America will stand alongside you."
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And that's different, of course,
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hence my comment
about unpredictability.
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and the dangers of not
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clearly deterring this behaviour
from Putin.
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President Trump, then,
to be fair to him,
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took the most robust option
of the ones
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that have been offered up to him
by his national security community.
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Despite the Russians continuing
to deny any part in the poisoning...
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President Trump expels 60
Russian diplomats from the US.
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She'd been Home Secretary
for a number of years,
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she understood these issues
very, very well.
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But the decision that would come
to define her premiership
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was whether to call
a general election.
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Her close advisers were in favour -
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to increase
her parliamentary majority,
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and to get Brexit done.
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Myself, Nick Timothy,
Fiona Hill, and Joanna Penn,
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one evening, after Downing Street
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had been sort of largely emptied
for the day,
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went up to the flat
the Prime Minister lived in.
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And over a glass of wine
and bowls of crisps,
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sat with Theresa,
and with her husband Philip...
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and went through the arguments.
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I think it's fair to say that,
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erm, Theresa was pretty sceptical
of the idea.
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And so was Philip, actually.
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It's really difficult
to understand Theresa May
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without understanding Philip
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and the critical nature
of that relationship.
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They are... incredibly close couple.
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For a decision like that,
you need to be somewhere...
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where you are sort of away from
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the day-to-day
of Number 10 Downing Street.
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I thought about
the 2017 general election
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when we were walking in Wales...
So...
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..that's what I was saying
about it enabled you
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just to have some time
to think about things.
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And if the polls
were to be believed,
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there was a possibility
of getting a bigger majority.
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APPLAUSE
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And the choice...
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is between five years
of strong and stable leadership...
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..strong and stable leadership...
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..strong and stable leadership
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to take us
through Brexit and beyond.
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I made some mistakes
during the election campaign.
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I'm not sure that phrase
was one of those.
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I think it was there to draw
a contrast, with Jeremy Corbyn,
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who was the then leader
of the Labour Party.
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Oh, the entire campaign
was a total disaster...
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from day one.
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She and her team around her
decided early on
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that it's gonna be a sort of
presidential-style campaign.
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It's all about Theresa May -
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not the Conservatives,
but about Theresa May.
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It seems to me that prime ministers
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are either good at campaigning
or at governing.
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The one after her was a very good
campaigner and a hopeless governor.
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And a vote for any other party
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would be a vote for
a weak and failing Jeremy Corbyn.
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I believe in
being out on the doorsteps.
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I'm not a natural...
stand with a factory background,
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talking to a group of workers.
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She was very frustrated.
And I remember just thinking,
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"Why don't you
do something about it?
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"You're the Prime Minister.
Why don't you tell them?
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"Why didn't you change it?"
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And I can only blame myself
for that.
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The low point of the campaign
comes after the manifesto launch,
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and the introduction
of the so-called dementia tax
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to deal with the unsolved question
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of how to fund
the ever-rising social care bill.
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The so-called dementia tax
was very unpopular on doorsteps
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and people were frightened of it,
they thought it was going to mean
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they would lose their houses.
So, they opposed it.
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After a hostile press response,
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Theresa May is forced into a U-turn.
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But to make things worse,
she then denies she's made one.
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Nothing has changed.
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We are offering a long-term solution
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for the sustainability
of social care for the future.
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And I think that...
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drove a coach and horses
through her brand, really.
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She was somebody who was...
seen, until that point,
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as quite sort of authentic
and honest and...
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erm... all those things.
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And the moment
there was a dissonance
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between what she was saying,
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I think people looked at that
and thought,
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"I'm not convinced by this person."
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As election day approaches,
the strain is beginning to show.
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What's the naughtiest thing
you ever did?
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Oh, goodness me.
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Erm, well, I suppose the...
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Gosh. I...
Do you know, I'm not quite sure...
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There must have been
a moment when...
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Nobody is... Nobody is ever
perfectly behaved, are they?
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I mean, you know, I have to confess,
when me and my friends
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sort of used to run through
the fields of wheat,
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the farmers
weren't too pleased about that.
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I think there was a bit of a...
heart sink.
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Well, I think probably
the naughtiest thing I've done
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is answering that question.
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And what we're saying is the
Conservatives are the largest party.
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Note, they don't have an overall
majority at this stage.
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# Oh, Jeremy Corbyn... #
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..the young voters who'd turned out
in force for Labour...
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# Oh, Jeremy Corbyn. #
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Theresa May could have been
a very consequential,
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transformative prime minister.
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Had she been successful
in that election...
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the country, now,
would be in a much better place.
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And I was angry about it.
I probably still am.
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Are you resigning, Prime Minister?
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People started blaming other people.
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And she, quite rightly,
had to get rid of -
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sounds a brutal term,
but I mean, that is politics -
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her two special advisers,
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who had taken
a very strong leadership role
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in the manifesto
and in the campaign.
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Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill,
her joint chiefs of staff,
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resign within 48 hours.
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REPORTER: Any comments,
Nick and Fiona?
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Are you out of a job?
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Obviously you have to
speak to the individuals concerned.
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You have to think about
the wider picture.
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It is difficult when you've been...
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working with people
over a period of time, but...
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there we are,
that was a decision that I made.
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It's interesting because a lot of
people have a lot of love for her.
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Erm... but I don't think
she necessarily appreciated that,
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she was very... it was
very professional relationship
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rather than...
anything more than that.
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And, I think sometimes
she struggled to sort of relate
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on that sort of emotional... level.
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Within days
of the election disaster,
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the Prime Minister's ability to
"relate on an emotional level"
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was once again put to the test.
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999. There's a dedicated line
for this incident.
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I went in that morning,
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and we drove over
and met with fire officers
492
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,120
who were at the base of the tower,
493
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:12,640
who she thanked
for everything that they done.
494
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,840
They were very upset.
495
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,920
The fire was still smouldering
above us.
496
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760
It was a devastating scene.
497
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,080
And then we returned to Number 10.
498
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,800
There was a decision to be made
499
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,400
about whether she should meet with
some of the survivors,
500
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840
families, community groups.
501
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,160
And the advice
from the Metropolitan Police
502
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,400
was that she shouldn't do so.
503
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,640
And we got that call badly wrong.
504
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,360
We served her very badly there
505
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,280
because it played on the perceptions
that people already had
506
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,480
from the election campaign,
507
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,280
that, you know,
she wasn't comfortable
508
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,240
with that kind
of face-to-face contact.
509
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,720
I should've gone and met victims.
510
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,000
I recognise that.
511
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,080
CROWD SHOUTING
512
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,000
The next day, we went
to St Clement's Church,
513
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200
which is at the foot of the tower,
514
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,160
and we met with residents
of the tower
515
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,280
and the surrounding estate.
516
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,520
The tower block
is more strong and stable than
517
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,280
that woman's government.
She's racist.
518
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,440
She was hiding in the background
with the police,
519
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,120
and now she wants to come round
with the people. It's too late.
520
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,880
ELIZABETH SANDERSON: 'By this stage,
521
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,680
'the atmosphere
was very, very, very difficult.
522
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,080
'It was very hot. Hot, sunny day.
523
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,480
'And it felt that we were
on the verge of riots.'
524
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,640
One of the Grenfell survivors
meeting the Prime Minister that day
525
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,160
was Nick Burton, who lived
on the 19th floor of the tower,
526
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,600
but who'd miraculously managed
to escape the fire
527
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,000
with his wife, Pilly,
who suffered from dementia.
528
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960
And I thought, "OK, this is...
The Prime Minister's here."
529
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,200
We sat down more in, like, a circle.
530
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,720
And I was directly facing Theresa.
531
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400
I truly believe
that she was very emotional
532
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,640
and very kind of... really opened
to what had just gone on.
533
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280
And then we heard
a lot of noise outside.
534
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,520
And so, the community, erm...
535
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,960
..got the knowledge
536
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160
that she was actually
inside the church hall here.
537
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,440
And they were chanting and upset.
538
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,080
Theresa didn't want to stop it short
539
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,040
until it finally got to the point
where the protection team said,
540
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,480
"Right, I'm sorry. That's it."
541
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,560
'We opened the door.
542
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,040
'People were kicking the car,
543
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,400
'and we managed to get her
into the car and away.'
544
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,760
To see her welling up at
the various points in the meeting,
545
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,720
to most of us there who...
It doesn't quite fit the picture.
546
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,000
it sort of gets to you.
547
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,560
But, on the other hand,
because of the role you're playing,
548
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,880
It's about those practical things
549
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,320
that need to be...
that need to be put in place.
550
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,440
'In the statement in the Commons,
she said,
551
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,240
' "I will be there long after
the cameras have left." '
552
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,200
Still to this day,
553
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840
if any of them call me
from any of the different groups
554
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,280
and say, "We'd like
to speak to Theresa about X,"
555
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400
then I go and tell Theresa,
and she says,
556
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480
"Yes," you know,
"what can I do to help?"
557
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,320
But there was nothing to be done
to save Nick Burton's wife, Pilly,
558
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,720
who never left hospital
after the trauma of the fire.
559
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,920
It was just very difficult
for her to understand,
560
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,720
you know, what happened.
561
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,440
All the time, "I wanna go home,
I wanna go home, I wanna go home."
562
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,800
I said, "We haven't got a home."
563
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,840
And she counts
as the 72nd and final victim?
564
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,400
Yeah, she had a heart attack.
565
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,080
And then she was on life support
for a while.
566
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,320
'And then they just said,
567
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120
"Sorry, there's no coming back." '
568
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,880
And then
turned the life support off.
569
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,560
So she's number 72.
570
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Thank you very much, Glastonbury.
571
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,560
Thank you for inviting me here
today.
572
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,720
After the disastrous election,
573
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,640
the pressure is on Theresa May
574
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,040
to put her premiership
back on track.
575
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440
We actually spent a lot of time
together talking about that speech
576
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,240
and working on it
in a way that we probably haven't
577
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,560
on any other speech over the years.
578
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Then, one day, we were having,
actually, a casual conversation,
579
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,880
and she suddenly mentioned that...
580
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,520
one of her ancestors had been
a sort of charlady,
581
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,880
sort of working below stairs.
582
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,640
And that's where she'd come from.
583
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,880
And I said,
"Well, that's really interesting."
584
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,640
And she said, "Is it?"
LAUGHS
585
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,080
"Yes, that's interesting.
We can work with that.
586
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120
"That informs
a bit of your thinking."
587
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,840
The issues one's dealing with
are so serious
588
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,000
that I don't naturally put
personal information into speeches.
589
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,640
I think to be
a successful politician in...
590
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,440
this day and age,
you do need to be able to bring
591
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,240
some emotional intelligence
to the role.
592
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,000
Each new generation in our country
593
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,040
should be able to build
a better future.
594
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,480
REPORTER: 'It was all going to plan.
But then...'
595
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Other than Grenfell,
596
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,200
that was probably
the most difficult moment, for me,
597
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,720
to sit in that conference hall
598
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,120
on a speech that we all knew
was a very important moment for her
599
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,400
in terms of trying
to re-establish her authority.
600
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,400
'And then to find the combination
of a comedian handing her
601
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,240
'a sort of P45.'
602
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,040
Boris, job's done.
603
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,760
'Some individual
was able to approach the stage
604
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,080
'and present me with a P45 and
claim that was from Boris Johnson.'
605
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,760
I was about to talk about somebody
I'd like to give a P45 to,
606
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,720
and that's Jeremy Corbyn.
CHEERING
607
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,440
My voice went wrong.
608
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Why...
COUGHS
609
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,320
Why we will nev...
610
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,640
COUGHS
Excuse me.
611
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,160
And you would just
kind of think,
612
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,760
"Will nothing go right
for this person?"
613
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920
I hope you noticed that,
ladies and gentlemen.
614
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,960
The Chancellor
giving something away free.
615
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,200
LAUGHTER
616
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,760
'The trouble is it's one
of those classic things, isn't it?
617
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,600
'You know, it happens
in everyday life.
618
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,640
'One thing goes wrong,
619
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,280
'and then, suddenly,
a whole string of things go wrong.'
620
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,760
Shows what good
the Chancellor's cough sweet is.
621
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,600
LAUGHTER
622
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,560
'The letters on the stand behind me
started falling off.'
623
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,120
It was a speech that, sadly,
many people will remember,
624
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,880
but I wish
I didn't have to remember.
625
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,120
'Coming ashore
were wives and children
626
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,600
'of men already working here.'
627
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,080
# Try so hard to fulfil
628
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,640
# My destiny
629
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,880
# Ooh... #
630
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,720
Theresa May's experience
as Home Secretary
631
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:25,320
could come back to plague her.
632
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,720
Especially the controversial
hostile environment policy.
633
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,160
Ever since their arrival
at the end of the Second World War,
634
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,640
at the invitation
of the British Government,
635
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,040
the Windrush generation
636
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,920
had been given the status
of British citizens -
637
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,040
though they hadn't always been
issued the paperwork to prove it.
638
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,440
Over the years, and especially after
639
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Theresa May's Immigration Acts
of 2014 and '16,
640
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,480
the rules were tightened up.
641
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:59,120
# You know, it tore up my soul. #
642
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600
It was an attempt to try to ensure
643
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,960
that we could better identify
those who were here illegally
644
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,760
and... and take action.
645
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,880
It is right that governments act
646
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,960
against people
who are here illegally.
647
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,120
# Early morning
648
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,840
# Waking up before the sunrise... #
649
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Michael Braithwaite was a victim
of this hostile environment policy.
650
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,960
He'd been born in Barbados
and arrived in the UK in 1960
651
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,920
as a nine-year-old.
652
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,080
You know,
my whole life has been here.
653
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,920
I lived... We lived the British way.
We do everything British.
654
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,880
For 15 years, he'd been working in
a secondary school in North London
655
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,200
as a special needs
teaching assistant.
656
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400
As part
of the hostile environment policy,
657
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,920
he's asked out of the blue
by the Education Authority
658
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,040
to prove his right to remain
in the UK.
659
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,560
# To fulfil my destiny... #
660
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680
He said to me, well,
you don't have a biometric card,
661
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,120
and you don't have
a British citizenship.
662
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,720
So the only possible thing
I could say
663
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,440
that you are deemed an illegal.
664
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,920
An illegal person.
665
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,800
And I was sitting there, like...
666
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,080
Inside, I was shaking.
667
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:29,000
My whole being was churning around
on uncertainty of this situation.
668
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,160
He said to me,
669
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,440
"Look, I'll give you three months
to sort out your status."
670
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Three months.
671
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,240
I don't...
I fully accept that for individuals
672
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,720
who were caught up in this,
it was absolutely horrendous.
673
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,840
People who had...
674
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,920
committed to the United Kingdom,
who were part of our society,
675
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,800
who had contributed
to the life of our country,
676
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,920
were suddenly being told
they shouldn't be here.
677
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520
And obviously,
that was absolutely wrong.
678
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,240
I got quite ill with the stress.
679
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:04,360
My headmaster signed me off
cos he could see I was not...
680
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,360
There's no point me coming to work
with this hammer in my head.
681
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,720
Michael then loses his job.
682
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:14,840
Though, by now, his story
has been picked up by The Guardian
683
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,840
who run a series
of exclusive reports on the scandal.
684
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,880
AMELIA GENTLEMAN:
Michael Braithwaite
685
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,560
was incredibly disturbed
to have lost the job
686
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,760
that he absolutely loved.
687
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,640
or a prison sentence.
688
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,040
This was after the second round
of immigration changes
689
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,840
introduced by Theresa May
690
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,280
that had made it very, very worrying
for employers to hire anybody
691
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,600
who was unable
to prove their immigration status.
692
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,880
The pressure builds on Theresa May
693
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,680
as the Commonwealth Heads of State
arrive in London
694
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,160
for their biennial conference.
695
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,800
They were conscious
of the real suffering
696
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,960
that a lot of people
697
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,080
who had been born
in their countries
698
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,800
were experiencing
as a result of this scandal.
699
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,280
And they were furious.
700
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,160
I take this issue very seriously.
701
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,640
The Home Secretary apologised
at the House of Commons yesterday
702
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,400
for any anxiety caused.
703
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,800
And I want to apologise to you
today.
704
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,400
The Home Secretary at the time
is Amber Rudd,
705
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,320
who'd inherited the job
and the hostile environment regime
706
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,480
from her predecessor, Theresa May.
707
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,440
AMBER RUDD: Terrible stories.
Terrible stories of injustice.
708
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,600
And it was right
that I had to resign over it.
709
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,120
It was a shocking miscarriage.
710
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,840
INTERVIEWER:
You didn't feel for a moment
711
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,840
you had been
effectively made the scapegoat
712
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,960
for what were actually,
in practice, her policies?
713
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640
No, I didn't feel
that I was the scapegoat.
714
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,800
I felt that I was
the Secretary of State in charge
715
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,800
when this series of terrible events
were revealed.
716
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,080
And so I should resign.
717
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,360
AMELIA GENTLEMAN:
There are two scenarios.
718
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,280
Either Theresa May was oblivious,
in which case,
719
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440
she wasn't really
on top of her brief,
720
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,440
or she did know,
721
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,360
but she didn't think
that the kinds of people
722
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,200
who were likely to be affected
by this policy,
723
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,320
wrongly, were people
724
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,080
who she particularly needed
to worry about.
725
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,960
INTERVIEWER:
Should it have been clearer earlier?
726
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,320
Should it have been clear to you,
for instance,
727
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,000
whilst still Home Secretary?
728
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Well, as you can imagine,
729
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,560
because of the impact
that this had on individuals,
730
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,560
it is an issue where I've sort of
asked myself and looked back.
731
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Should we in the Home Office
have had a greater sense
732
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,800
of trying to identify
whether there were other people,
733
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,560
people who were going
to get caught up in this way?
734
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,520
I don't believe that question
was ever asked.
735
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,120
And that's what lay
behind the problems.
736
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,320
And you were in charge
of the Home Office at the time?
737
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,480
I was, and as Home Secretary,
you take responsibility.
738
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600
You're the captain of the ship.
739
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,440
If you don't know your structure
or what's going to be implemented,
740
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,400
well, that means
you really don't care.
741
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,440
I don't know how you can sleep
at night cos I...
742
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,360
I still can't sleep at night
properly,
743
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,240
and I'm not in your position.
744
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,640
Michael, who we spoke to,
745
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520
thought you probably
should have resigned.
746
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,000
I...
747
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,480
That may very well be...
748
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,520
May very well be Michael's...
Michael's view.
749
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,840
And I'm sorry
that this wasn't seen earlier,
750
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,840
and we weren't able to deal with it
in an earlier stage.
751
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,560
I've heard that many times now,
this word "sorry" being mentioned,
752
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,960
but it's a slap in the face.
753
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,520
Every time, it's a slap in the face.
754
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,640
How are you?
SIMON: Very good.
755
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,080
How was your journey? Horrendous?
756
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,880
Not too bad,
but at least I wasn't driving.
757
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,200
LAUGHTER
758
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
PHOTOGRAPHER: If can you look
as though you know who Simon is.
759
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,600
LAUGHTER
760
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440
And you're doing a documentary too,
for ITV?
761
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Yes.
Good. Good.
762
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,680
Warts and all?
LAUGHTER
763
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400
Sadly, probably yes.
764
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,200
'This was your coin.
765
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,880
'This was your moment to shine,
right?
766
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,520
'And then there was Brexit.
767
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,680
'Well, I was about to say. I thought
you were going to say that, yes.'
768
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,320
I mean, there were a good number
of my colleagues
769
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,880
who had either voted Remain
or were Brexiteers, who said,
770
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,560
"We accept the need to compromise,
and want to go through with it."
771
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,440
But you've got these two elements
on either side
772
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,440
who took a different view,
I'm afraid.
773
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,480
And it is a problem
in politics today.
774
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,400
NARRATOR: In the end, it was Brexit
that overshadowed everything else
775
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,320
during Theresa May's time
in Number 10,
776
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,880
especially after the catastrophic
2017 general election.
777
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,080
The problem with that election
778
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,640
DAMIAN GREEN:
There were clearly people
779
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,320
who were not necessarily predisposed
to be particularly helpful
780
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,720
to the Prime Minister
inside her Cabinet.
781
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:43,960
So that added to the gaiety
of trying to keep them all on track.
782
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,960
Sadly, I have to say,
783
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,120
I think sometimes
there are too many people sitting
784
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,840
around the Cabinet table
who harbour ambitions
785
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,360
and often not too quietly either.
786
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,880
INTERVIEWER:
Who do you have in mind?
787
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,960
I think you could look
at any reports of politics
788
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,480
over recent years,
789
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,560
and you'll see plenty of reports
of people,
790
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,880
in quotes, "jockeying for position".
791
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Including your successor?
792
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,400
Erm... I don't normally comment
on my successor.
793
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,080
Lack of trust around
the Cabinet table about Brexit
794
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,400
breeds an atmosphere of suspicion
795
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,400
that the Prime Minister struggles
to control.
796
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,080
She knew that there were people
sitting around that Cabinet table
797
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,480
who couldn't wait to get out
to leak the contents
798
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,240
of Cabinet meetings.
799
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:31,760
I think we made the joke
at the time,
800
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,320
we may as well
have live-streamed them
801
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,200
cos they got out very, very quickly.
802
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,240
Could I check you haven't picked up
any papers from the table?
803
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,880
INDISTINCT CHATTER
Thank you.
804
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,280
Can I just check
you haven't got any papers?
805
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,280
To not have Cabinets leak,
806
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,680
you have to enable people
around that table
807
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,600
to have a stake in the decisions
that are made.
808
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,400
And if you don't allow that,
809
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,720
then that causes people to go off
and do their own thing.
810
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,800
INTERVIEWER: Like Boris Johnson?
811
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,960
I know that he was very frustrated
at many points
812
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,120
during that... that whole era.
813
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,760
We had a lot of leaks
from Cabinet meetings,
814
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,040
so it was important to be careful.
815
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,520
rather than a participant.
816
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,720
And she would listen,
poker face, just listen.
817
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,320
And I would be none the wiser
when the meetings finish.
818
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,280
Quite often,
she wouldn't even say anything.
819
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,320
And one of her staffers would say,
"We'll get back to you."
820
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,960
INTERVIEWER: And did you emerge
at the end knowing what she thought?
821
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,080
We very rarely knew
what the Prime Minister thought.
822
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,760
It's not for the person in charge
823
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,600
or the person chairing that meeting
to go in and just bombastically say,
824
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,320
"My view is X.
You're all going to do it."
825
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,160
And particularly on a subject
like this
826
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,680
where there was such
sharply differing views.
827
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,960
And rightly, I brought those views
around the table.
828
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,040
NARRATOR: By the summer of 2018,
829
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,280
it's time for the Prime Minister
to reveal her hand.
830
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,520
After months of secrecy
and negotiations with the EU,
831
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,880
she invites her Cabinet to Chequers,
832
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,640
including Boris Johnson,
her Foreign Secretary,
833
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,200
and David Davis,
her Brexit Secretary,
834
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,960
to get their approval
for her Brexit plan.
835
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,760
What Chequers was about
836
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,360
And I would describe it
as a compromise.
837
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,160
A compromise
between there were some people
838
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,720
who wanted to see the UK stay
in the single market
839
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,000
and, or, the customs union,
840
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,440
therefore, very close to the EU.
841
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,600
And there were others.
842
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,440
Boris Johnson latterly
became an example of this,
843
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,160
who wanted to sort of break away
844
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,600
and have just
a standard free trade agreement.
845
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,760
It was an awkward compromise
to try and achieve that.
846
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:11,800
On the day of Chequers,
even Boris Johnson was,
847
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,000
you know, telling everyone
how brilliant, you know,
848
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,000
this deal was
and what a masterstroke it was.
849
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,920
In detailed discussions today,
850
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,160
the Cabinet has agreed
our collective position
851
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,600
on the future of our negotiations
with the EU.
852
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080
But this was evidently not the way
853
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:32,000
the more ardent Brexiteers
saw the events of the day.
854
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,840
I think we all went there
in good faith
855
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,120
to try and get
the best outcome possible.
856
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,040
And actually,
the Chequers document itself,
857
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,120
there were four paragraphs in it
858
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,360
that if you had made
some small changes to,
859
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,960
you would have
just kept more options open.
860
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,080
And that, indeed,
was the preferred way forward
861
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,800
of David Davis at the time.
862
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,040
Halfway through the meeting,
Gavin Barwell waved at me
863
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,880
and asked me to come outside
of the Cabinet meeting with him.
864
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,880
We walked down the corridor,
and we actually ended up in a room,
865
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,000
which turned out to be
the Prime Minister's bedroom,
866
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,440
er... strangely enough.
867
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,720
And he said,
868
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:23,120
"What are those four paragraphs
that we could change?"
869
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,480
So I talked him through it,
870
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,760
explained how that would
just give you more options.
871
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,360
And he said, "We can't do that
872
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,920
"because she's already agreed
the text with Merkel."
873
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,560
And I just left incredibly depressed
because it...
874
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,640
it said to me that...
875
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,520
no matter what the goodwill
and the effort
876
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,440
that was being made by colleagues
877
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,280
to help her get this
to the best place,
878
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,720
it was futile.
879
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,360
I genuinely felt
we'd accomplished something.
880
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,280
We've ended the day with a dinner.
881
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,600
And, you know, there were people
standing up at the dinner
882
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,720
and expressing
their wholehearted support...
883
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:13,040
including some of those
who then resigned.
884
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,640
David rang me and said,
"Oh, no. I've gotta go."
885
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,320
So, Chequers was a terrible day.
886
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,080
It was a blow because David
was a serious Cabinet Minister.
887
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,080
He'd...
He was a thoughtful Brexiteer,
888
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,720
and he'd done a good job
in his department.
889
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:38,400
So I was sorry that
he didn't feel able to carry on.
890
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,280
INTERVIEWER:
And were you surprised when,
891
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,800
24 or so hours later,
Boris Johnson resigned too?
892
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,160
I'm not inside Boris's mind,
893
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,800
but I think it was interesting
that it was after David had resigned
894
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,880
that he then decided to resign.
895
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,600
REPORTER:
Do you think the Prime Minister
896
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,400
can deliver a Brexit deal?
897
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,800
GAVIN BARWELL:
Boris Johnson felt he had to
898
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,440
because he couldn't allow
anyone else
899
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,520
to become the kind of leader
of the sort of Eurosceptic wing
900
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,680
of the Tory Party.
901
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,080
So, there was this kind of absurd
25 minute conversation
902
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,560
between him and the Prime Minister.
903
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,120
In the end, she had said to him
"Look, I'm in a bit of a rush.
904
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,120
"Are you actually telling me
you're resigning?"
905
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,560
Boris Johnson in particular carried
a lot of weight in the party.
906
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,120
He had a lot of the followers
amongst both MPs and members.
907
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,040
And I think his resignation
of the two was hugely significant.
908
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,320
CHEERING
909
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,520
Once the people who were opposed
to Chequers within the party
910
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,160
had Boris as a leader,
911
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,680
the job was gonna become
much more difficult.
912
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,640
And you had someone who wasn't
just opposing the Brexit deal,
913
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,560
This is the moment
to chuck Chequers...
914
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:59,280
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
915
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,800
THEY SING
916
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,160
NARRATOR: By now,
distractions from Brexit
917
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,120
were few and far between
for the Prime Minister.
918
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,800
THEY SING
919
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,080
REPORTER: If you were a judge
on Strictly Come Dancing,
920
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,560
how would you score your dancing
this morning?
921
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,320
SHE LAUGHS
922
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,120
I suspect my dancing this morning
923
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,080
might not quite make it
onto Strictly.
924
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,480
MUSIC: 'Dancing Queen'
by ABBA
925
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,480
ELIZABETH: There is something about
Theresa May's dancing, isn't there?
926
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,760
I mean, if I say that I work with,
or for, Theresa May,
927
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,120
people pretty quickly get
to the dancing.
928
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,160
So, I think it's, erm...
929
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,720
People identify her with it now
in the way
930
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:48,360
that they used to identify
her leopard skin, pointy shoes.
931
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,440
'Nobody knew
I was going to do that,
932
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,080
'and I didn't know
I was going to do that
933
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,880
'until standing behind the scenes.
934
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,320
And the music was ABBA music,
and I thought,
935
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,840
"Right, I'm just going to,
you know."
936
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,000
Last year...
937
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,800
everything went wrong.
938
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,600
I wanted to, you know,
just show a bit of... bit more fun.
939
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,520
MAN: What do we want?
ALL: Brexit!
940
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,560
When do we want it?
Now!
941
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,960
By the late autumn of 2018,
942
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,240
the Prime Minister can no longer
hold her party together.
943
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,560
Watch it!
944
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,120
This is BINO or BRINO
or Brexit in name only.
945
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,640
The Cabinet's out here
trying to make the case
946
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,400
for why we need to get
behind Theresa May
947
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,600
because we all believe that.
948
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,760
The active campaigning
949
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,400
the anti Prime Minister group.
950
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,120
That was Boris and Jacob Rees-Mogg
951
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,320
and, erm, Suella Braverman.
952
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,480
Just the kind of the hard right
of the party
953
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:57,640
who decided that their future lay
in opposing any sort of compromise.
954
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,280
when the final terms
of the Withdrawal Agreement
955
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,440
were published.
956
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,280
And there were a number
of resignations at that time,
957
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,000
and that's when
it really started to collapse.
958
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,280
And from that point onwards,
it was downhill, really,
959
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,640
for Theresa May.
960
00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:22,240
And so it was to prove.
961
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,400
Although the Prime Minister survives
the ministerial resignations
962
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,560
and a vote of no confidence
initiated by her own MPs,
963
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,040
by the start of 2019,
964
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,920
she can no longer delay
the inevitable
965
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,600
as the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement
is put to the vote.
966
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,960
The aye's to the right - 202.
967
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,240
The no's to the left - 432.
968
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:48,120
So the no's have it.
The no's have it.
969
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,400
Unlock!
970
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,480
The extent was perhaps
a little surprising.
971
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,680
I knew it was highly likely
to go against me.
972
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,520
But it... You know...
973
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,360
Spectacular is often used
in a positive sense.
974
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,680
In this one, it wasn't positive
to have a defeat like that.
975
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,880
The country is in tumult.
976
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,040
This is not Brexit.
977
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,840
This is a failure
of government policy.
978
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,040
It needs to be rejected.
It's a trap.
979
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,120
And although
the government narrows the gap
980
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,080
on the subsequent
two parliamentary votes,
981
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,440
it's too big to close.
982
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,400
So despite winning
the belated support of Boris Johnson
983
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,640
and David Davis, among others,
984
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,800
she fails to win over
a hard core of opponents
985
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,040
on both the Remain
and Brexit sides.
986
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,120
I voted against it once,
twice, three times.
987
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,640
And I was very glad that,
ultimately, we defeated it,
988
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,720
and we stopped Theresa May's Brexit
from being delivered.
989
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,960
I'm very proud
of 27 other colleagues and myself
990
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,280
who held out on principle,
991
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:07,600
despite excruciating pressure
within Parliament to do otherwise.
992
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,760
INTERVIEWER: At the time,
993
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,960
did you consider it
a personal betrayal?
994
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,280
I don't use terms like that.
995
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,120
Politics is politics.
People had a different view.
996
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,360
They... I think
there were many Brexiteers who,
997
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,760
not to put too fine a point on it,
998
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,720
didn't like a Remainer
being in charge of Brexit.
999
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,120
Looking back,
1000
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,200
could the Prime Minister have done
more to hold the party together?
1001
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,880
A quintessential constituency MP,
1002
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,160
she was perhaps more at home
in the Maidenhead Conservative Club
1003
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,200
than with
her parliamentary colleagues.
1004
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,760
Lovely. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
1005
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,360
Maybe if I'd spent more time
with individuals
1006
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,840
talking them through
what I was aiming to do,
1007
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,400
then possibly,
it might've gone a different way.
1008
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,520
After a final forlorn attempt
to win support for her deal
1009
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,160
from Jeremy Corbyn
and the Labour Party,
1010
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,520
Theresa May feels she has no choice
but to resign.
1011
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,760
JOANNA PENN: And at that point,
there were no other options left.
1012
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,960
And I remember being
in her parliamentary office
1013
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,040
and reflecting... that to her.
1014
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,320
I knew that
we'd reached the end of the road.
1015
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,320
Over a short period of time,
1016
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,360
it just became clearer
that I wasn't going to be able
1017
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,120
to get the deal through,
and that, therefore,
1018
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,680
it would be right for me
to step aside.
1019
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,880
That was a very brutal day.
1020
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,960
Westminster at its most brutal.
1021
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,120
'Until you step down,
1022
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,840
'you don't realise
how stressful the role has been.'
1023
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,680
So there is that that sense
of a slight sense of freedom.
1024
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,400
And hey, I was able to go
and watch some cricket.
1025
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,000
That can't be bad.
1026
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:05,920
If you step back
and take a historic look at it,
1027
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,200
Boris should have done Brexit,
1028
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,120
And then for COVID,
1029
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,720
and all the different demands
you needed to get through that,
1030
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:18,280
then Theresa would've been
absolutely ideal.
1031
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,880
Well, you can't sort of fit
a prime minister to a circumstance.
1032
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,520
And you have to deal with
the circumstances that you find.
1033
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,200
I will always think
that the agreement that I got,
1034
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,640
the deal that I got
was a better one.
1035
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,720
The deal that we now have
is pretty close
1036
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,320
to what I had agreed.
1037
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,560
But, then,
as President Truman once said,
1038
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,720
"You can achieve anything
you want in this life
1039
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,680
"as long as you don't mind
who takes the credit."
1040
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,120
Hello, Mrs May.
Hello there.
1041
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,360
This is for you.
1042
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,720
Would you like this to somebody?
To Michael and Sharon?
1043
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,120
He's got political aspirations.
1044
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,560
I don't know if you could say,
wish him luck. Yes.
1045
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,800
I've got a chapter on Brexit.
1046
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:01,880
Do you?
Yes. Yes.
1047
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,720
Only just one?
Only just one, yes.
1048
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,560
Do you mind if take a picture
with you...? Yep.
1049
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,880
Oh, yeah. Thank you.
1050
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:12,000
All prime ministers leave office
feeling their work is incomplete.
1051
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,840
And even if they write
their own memoirs,
1052
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,680
they can rarely control
the verdict of posterity.
1053
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,760
Thank you very much. Bye now.
Sold out.
1054
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,040
LAUGHTER
Sold out.
1055
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,960
It's something that
all prime ministers struggle with.
1056
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,200
When the public think
about prime ministers,
1057
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,840
they tend to remember one thing.
1058
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,560
And for Theresa, it's gonna be,
she couldn't get Brexit through.
1059
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,000
And for David Cameron,
it's gonna be losing the referendum.
1060
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,760
For Tony Blair,
it's gonna be the Iraq war.
1061
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,640
But that's the way politics works.
1062
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,920
What former prime ministers
can still do
1063
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,520
is hold their successors to account
for their performance and conduct.
1064
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,520
Especially ones
who'd plotted to remove them.
1065
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,400
So either my right honourable friend
had not read the rules
1066
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,960
or didn't understand
what they meant,
1067
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,440
and others around him.
1068
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,840
Or they didn't think
the rules applied to Number Ten.
1069
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,240
Which was it?
1070
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,520
Sadly, over the years,
1071
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,600
there has come to be more
of a sense from the public
1072
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,280
that it is one rule
for the politicians
1073
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,840
and another rule for everybody else.
1074
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,400
Partygate brought this
into sharp focus.
1075
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,160
AMBER RUDD:
What followed was sort of mayhem.
1076
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,600
And I think, by comparison,
1077
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,160
people probably do respect
Theresa May as prime minister more.
1078
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,360
In March this year,
1079
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,840
Theresa May called it a day
on her career as an MP.
1080
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,320
I launched the Global Commission
1081
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,400
on Modern Slavery
and Human Trafficking,
1082
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,720
and suddenly realised that,
1083
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,120
that was going to take more
of my time than I'd expected.
1084
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,320
I mean,
I've been an MP for 27 years.
1085
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,720
I spent quite a while
becoming an MP,
1086
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,880
trying to get a seat
and then being selected.
1087
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,760
So, of course,
it was a difficult decision.
1088
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,760
Theresa May, the vicar's daughter.
1089
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Few doubt her decency
or her commitment to public service.
1090
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,080
But in an age
where leaders are judged
1091
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,000
just as much for their ability
to communicate their feelings,
1092
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,080
she failed to win sufficient support
to achieve her Brexit goals.
1093
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,240
INTERVIEWER: Why did you agree
to do this programme?
1094
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,640
I want people
to have the opportunity
1095
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,800
to learn a bit of what it's like.
1096
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,440
But also perhaps to...
1097
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:38,840
..try to set out that politicians
genuinely do want
1098
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,120
to improve things for people,
1099
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,360
improve people's lives,
see social justice.
1100
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,720
Even if it means having to answer
annoying questions
1101
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:47,960
from annoying people like me?
1102
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,000
There weren't too many questions
about how I felt,
1103
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,560
but there were some.
1104
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,360
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