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[pensive music]
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[knocking]
- Hello?
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- [Narrator] It's
been eight years
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since the world
first fell in love
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with Walt Disney's cartoon
star, Mickey Mouse.
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- This little animated
every-man mouse
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[baton clacking]
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has so captivated
the world by storm.
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[knocking]
- Hello?
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- Mickey became more to people
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than just a character
on a screen.
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[knocking]
- Hello?
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Do you have it?
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- Have what?
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- People see
themselves in Mickey,
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and Mickey becomes sort
of an icon to everyone.
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- There becomes a demand for
people to have some ownership
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of that story, of that
thing that they love.
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- [Narrator] Now, after
conquering cartoons,
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Mickey Mouse has sparked
another revolution.
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- The idea of taking a beloved
character from the screen
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and putting it on everything,
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this had never been done before.
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[tapping]
- I'll take two.
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No, three.
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- Now, you can take the magic
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of the character you love
from the theater, home.
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It was groundbreaking.
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- [Narrator] Beginning
with Mickey Mouse,
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Disney will revolutionize
entertainment
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by lifting its star
characters off the screen
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and landing them in almost
every facet of American life.
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- It was an entirely
new phenomenon.
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- Merchandising
could be anything.
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It could be everything.
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[dramatic music]
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- [Narrator] By pioneering
character licensing
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for merchandise...
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- Basically, he
created cereal culture.
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- [Narrator] Disney will
launch new industries.
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- Where'd that all come from?
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The mouse.
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- [Narrator] It will
take a big gamble...
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- Money was really being left
on the table, left and right.
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- Mr. Disney, I believe
your Mickey Mouse
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is an untapped goldmine.
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- [Narrator] To leap
from movie screens
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to virtually everywhere else.
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[paper tearing]
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- Marshall Fields in Chicago.
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[glasses clink]
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- It's a big, big risk.
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- Neiman Marcus in Texas.
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- It could have
failed spectacularly.
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- Macy's in New York.
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- This is the big bang.
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This is the moment that creates
merchandising as we know it.
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- He says he can make us rich
beyond our wildest dreams.
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[dramatic music]
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[lively music]
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- [Narrator] At an upstart
animation studio in Hollywood,
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27-year-old filmmaker,
Walt Disney,
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is focused on
getting more eyeballs
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in front of his
breakout new star.
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- Hello, yes, I'm calling to see
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if you're playing the
new Mickey Mouse cartoons
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I've heard so much about.
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- [Narrator] Mickey is quickly
becoming the king of cartoons
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and the secret to his success
is synchronized sound.
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[playful music]
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But to pull it off, Walt
has dug his studio in deep.
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[pensive music]
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- My pals and I
really wanna see it.
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Well, do you know what
theaters are playing it?
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Thank you.
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- Walt.
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- I'm just building
more buzz, Roy.
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That's how you fan the flames.
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- Did you even read that
before you signed it?
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- Of course not.
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We need them.
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- [Narrator] Recording the
sound for Mickey Mouse shorts
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requires licensing and expensive
cutting edge technology.
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- To get this technology, he
signed on to a 10 year contract
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during which he's going to
shell out $26,000 every year,
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plus a percentage of the profits
coming from his cartoons.
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- Walt, this deal is
going to bleed us dry.
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We'd have to double our output
just to keep the lights on.
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- Then we'll double our output.
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- So despite the fact that
they have a successful product,
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because of the deal
that Walt Disney signed,
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it costs more to make
the Mickey Mouse shorts
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than they are making from them.
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- [Narrator] The man responsible
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for funding almost
all of Walt's ideas,
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is his brother Roy.
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- Walt's the idea man,
Roy is the businessman.
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- Walt Disney was
obsessed with quality,
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regardless of cost,
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and so poor Roy is constantly
looking for revenue.
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- Walt's spending money
left, right, and center,
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and Roy now has
to make ends meet.
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And then suddenly,
the phone rings
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and a lifeline is thrown to him,
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and all he has to
do is just say yes.
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[phone ringing]
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- Hello.
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Yes, this is him.
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- [Narrator] A small doll maker
has called the Disney Studio
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with a business proposition.
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- For when?
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Oh, not a problem at all.
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[gentle music]
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Walt, a minute?
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- Let's add some more steam
lines to the hot dogs.
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I want the audience
to smell them.
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- I just got off the phone
with a New York merchandiser.
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- The shoe there, it
looks a little off.
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- He wants to produce
Mickey Mouse products.
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Dolls, toys, things like that.
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We get a fee for
every item sold.
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- Sure, Roy.
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Have at it.
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Now the shadow...
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- Walt only cared
about doing good work.
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He didn't necessarily care about
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how to monetize his
characters or his brand.
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- [Narrator] Roy
signs an agreement
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granting the New York
doll maker permission
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to make a stuffed Mickey Mouse
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in exchange for a percentage
of every item sold.
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- In the 1920s, this
is a brand new idea.
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- It's crazy now when you see
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how much movie
merchandise is out there,
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to realize that merchandise
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wasn't something
that was thought of
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when it came to producing films.
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- Studios knew that they
could bring people in the door
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with a new film, but then what?
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The only product was
really the film itself.
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- Consumerism and film,
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those are still two
very separate entities.
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Movies do not sell products.
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Products do not sell movies.
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- The potential for making money
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through merchandising Mickey,
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most of that came from
the toy companies.
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- In the 1920s,
Americans have access
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to this abundance of
manufactured goods
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and there's all kinds of
toys that every kid wants.
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The Erector Set, model trains,
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all of this stuff we're
seeing for the first time
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as a collective
community, as a nation.
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- [Natalia] The toy industry
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is a crowded and
competitive industry.
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- And marketing is a new thing.
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So as you go back
and look at ads,
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they were very oriented
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toward, "This product
will last you 30 years."
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- Like, it's
literally describing
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everything that this
product will do,
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and cost a lot of
time and resources.
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- But with Mickey Mouse,
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the companies realized that
the hard work was done,
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the marketing was done.
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People knew who
Mickey Mouse was.
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They just had to make
the toys of something
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that people already love.
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- [Narrator] In the first year,
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Roy's deal with one
company brings in just $63,
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a little over a thousand today.
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- Merchandise that was
produced in the early years,
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it was very limited.
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It might be an occasional
doll, it could be a figurine.
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There wasn't very much
that was produced,
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but it was a bonus to Roy.
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It was money that they
didn't have before.
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- [Narrator] Roy realizes
Mickey Mouse toys
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are a golden goose
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and starts accepting
more licensing contracts.
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- Opportunities came to
them by happenstance.
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They weren't really
involved in the process.
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- It was just,
"Give us the money,
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go ahead, use the character."
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[pensive music]
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- The problem is this,
the merchandising vendors,
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they don't have the
reverence and respect
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for the intellectual
property of Mickey Mouse
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that the Disneys do.
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- Masks are 10 cents each.
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I can do you two for 15.
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Ah, Mickey Mouse doll.
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One of our best sellers.
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Almost sold out.
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[suspenseful music]
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- Can you believe this?
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- His bestseller.
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- Does this look
like Mickey to you?
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- Walt, your cartoons
are awfully expensive.
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That doll is the only
thing keeping us afloat.
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- If we let these pretenders
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do whatever they
want with Mickey,
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kids won't even
recognize the real one.
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What's Mickey worth then?
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- Walt, from day one,
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was obsessed with his
work being distinctive
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in terms of quality.
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So a junky Mickey Mouse doll
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that looks nothing
like Mickey Mouse
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really damages the reputation
of all of his work.
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- Any piece of material
that is created
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with the name of Disney
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that doesn't meet
the Disney standard
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that he's working so hard
to create within his studio,
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is a threat to the thing
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that he's creating
in the first place.
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[dramatic music]
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- Roy has to be thinking,
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"You wanna have these
incredible flights of fancy?
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That costs money.
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I found you money.
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If you want to
keep making Mickey,
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this is the easiest
way to do it."
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- You gonna buy that, or what?
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- [Narrator] Walt and Roy Disney
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are at loggerheads
over Mickey Mouse toys.
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Where Roy sees a much
needed revenue stream,
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Walt sees a drag
on his creation.
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- Merchandising is
a brand new world.
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No one knows how to navigate it.
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- The problem is the quality.
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Walt, from day one, has a vision
of excellence and quality,
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and there's no quality
control in the merchandise.
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- But Roy figures
this merchandise
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is what's keeping us afloat.
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So you have Roy pulling
in one direction
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and Walt pulling
the other direction.
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[tense music]
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- Have a seat, we'll be
with you in a moment.
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- Thank you.
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- And then, enter a
stranger from Kansas City
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named Kay Kamen.
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- Kay Kamen is this
marketing whiz kid.
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- He is an absolute
genius at moving product.
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The kinda guy who can talk
a dog off of a meat truck,
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as they would say.
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- He had sort of a
scattershot early life.
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He worked in the mills
braiding straw hats,
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and then he got into the
children's clothing trade.
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- [Narrator] Kay Kamen pioneered
a novel marketing technique
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for a line of boys clothing
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by creating a branded comic
strip character to sell it.
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- He recognized
that entertainment
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is what people would pay for.
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That there was just
hopefully that little extra
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that was the joy factor.
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And a good character
could fulfill that.
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- And he got wind of the
success of Mickey Mouse
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and he thought this
was a character
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that was going to make
the company, and himself,
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a lot of money.
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- He wears a middle part,
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kinda like the guy
on your Pringles can,
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suits that are out of date.
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He's bristling with intense,
nervous, kinetic energy,
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and he hasn't slept all night
in anticipation of this pitch.
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[tense music]
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- A Mr. Kay Kamen
is here to see you.
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- Mr. Disney,
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I believe your Mickey Mouse
is an untapped gold mine
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and can make all of us rich
beyond our wildest dreams.
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- Kamen saw a huge opportunity
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to be out there, selling Mickey
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and really supervising
the process,
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making all of them
a lot of money.
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- And he walks right into
their office and says,
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"Give me control over
the merchandise."
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- Roy, this is Mr. Kamen.
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He says he can make us rich
beyond our wildest dreams.
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[tense music]
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- This actually happened.
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He drains his savings,
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he takes that cash, and
sews it into his coat.
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This is a bizarre
turn of events.
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[suspenseful music]
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- Gentlemen,
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hire me and I will
make you all this money
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plus more than you can count.
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- Roy's just gotta be
terribly impressed,
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but Walt doesn't care,
he's the creative.
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Money never matters to Walt.
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- Mr. Kamen, that's
all well and good,
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but what can you do about this?
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- Kay Kamen realizes
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he's actually been
taking the wrong tack.
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- But he is totally
prepared for this.
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- From his own prior practices,
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he really understood the value
of protecting this character.
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- And the brilliance
of Kay Kamen
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is that he pivots on a dime.
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[suspenseful music]
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- Mr. Disney.
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Under my watch,
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you'll never see a second rate
Mickey doll like this again.
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- How?
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- Not a single piece of
merchandise will be made
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without your personal approval.
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[tense music]
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- And in that moment,
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Walt Disney realizes
that he and Kay Kamen
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are singing from
the same hymn sheet
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and that they both go to
the church of quality.
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- Alright, Mr. Kamen, deal.
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[uplifting music]
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- [Narrator] Kamen is put in
charge of this new direction
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overseeing Roy's toy rollout,
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but with Walt's
emphasis on quality,
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giving Walt the
assurance he needs
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to pursue his next
big creative swing,
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Technicolor.
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- But Technicolor is
incredibly expensive.
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It's a big, big risk.
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- [Narrator] Making
color cartoons
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will triple Disney's lab fees
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and raise production costs,
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putting even more pressure
on Disney merchandising
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to bring in badly needed cash.
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- Roy Disney was
under so much duress,
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because his brother was
spending so much money.
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Merchandise was sort of a
lifesaver for the company.
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- You gotta remember,
those early opportunities
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were keeping the studio
afloat financially.
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[tense music]
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- But Kay Kamen was fully aware
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that Walt was expecting
him to maintain quality.
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- He took a good look
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at what kinds of
products were being made,
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what was their quality,
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and how did it fit in with
the values of the company.
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- [Vendor] Evening, sir.
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- You got a license for
all this Mickey stuff?
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[tense music]
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- [Vendor] Whoa, buddy.
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- He goes to all of the
merchandising vendors
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who are making substandard
products and he cleans house.
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- My boss is gonna
have words with you.
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- So that he can start again
with top quality merchandise.
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- Tell him to call me.
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Evening.
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- But put yourself in
Roy Disney's shoes.
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You're struggling,
you need money.
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They had money coming in.
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Kay Kamen comes in and
turns off the stream.
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[gentle music]
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- [Narrator] Kay Kamen, Disney's
new head of merchandising,
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must now find a happy medium
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between the competing interests
of the Disney brothers.
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- How do you serve two masters?
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- He needs to balance Walt's
protectiveness of Mickey Mouse
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as well as Roy's need
to turn a profit.
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And he was feeling
the tension of that.
362
00:17:13,282 --> 00:17:15,075
- At the time that Kamen
joined the company,
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there was a limited
number of options
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for how merchandise was used.
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00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:21,832
- Movie studios
were thinking small.
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They were thinking,
"Oh, we'll make a doll.
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We'll make a game of the thing."
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- It was very derivative.
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You had the character,
you have a doll.
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- He needs a big,
bold, brand new move.
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[inspiring music]
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- And then, Kay
Kamen had a vision
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for how to brand Mickey Mouse
into something so much more
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than just a toy for kids.
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[dramatic music]
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- So Mickey Mouse is the
first animated character
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to adorn a licensed lunchbox.
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Before that, we would
think of kid's lunchbox
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and it would be something like a
plain, black, functional item.
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Now, this became something
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that you would buy
specifically for your child
382
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because they're a fan of Mickey.
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- Kamen's big idea
384
00:18:20,015 --> 00:18:22,476
is that you can put
Mickey Mouse anywhere.
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- Merchandising
could be anything.
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It could be everything.
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[uplifting music]
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- [Narrator] Kamen embarks
on an unprecedented expansion
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of movie merchandise,
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00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,491
turning products that have
never been branded before
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into billboards
for Mickey Mouse.
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- The idea of taking
a beloved character
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and putting it on something
that wasn't a toy,
394
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this was completely novel.
395
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- [Narrator] Mickey Mouse's
image is so powerful,
396
00:18:56,176 --> 00:18:59,888
it launches smaller
brands into the big time.
397
00:18:59,888 --> 00:19:02,391
- The Hall brothers run
the Hallmark company
398
00:19:02,391 --> 00:19:05,060
and they sign their first
ever licensing deal
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to put Disney characters
on their greeting cards,
400
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,774
which turns Hallmark
into the juggernaut brand
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that it is today.
402
00:19:11,859 --> 00:19:13,861
- [Narrator] And even
rescue struggling companies
403
00:19:13,861 --> 00:19:16,780
from financial collapse
during the depression,
404
00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:20,534
like Lionel Trains
and Ingersoll Watches.
405
00:19:21,076 --> 00:19:22,828
- So the Ingersoll
Watch Company,
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00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:25,706
part of the Depression,
really about to go broke,
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start manufacturing a
new Mickey Mouse watch,
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00:19:29,543 --> 00:19:31,503
and unbelievably popular.
409
00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:35,799
- By 1935, some 2.5 million
Mickey Mouse wrist watches
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had been sold.
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- And to this day, we all
wear Mickey Mouse watches.
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- [Narrator] Kamen proves
that if you can sell it,
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Mickey can adorn it.
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Now, he has an even bolder idea:
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to draw audiences into
a whole new market
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and revolutionize one of
America's largest industries.
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[pensive music]
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- This way, Mrs. Post,
419
00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:05,078
we're set up for you
in the sound stage.
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00:20:05,954 --> 00:20:07,247
- Marjorie Merriweather Post
421
00:20:07,247 --> 00:20:09,583
was the head of General
Foods in the 1930s
422
00:20:09,583 --> 00:20:12,294
and she's one of the most
powerful and wealthy women
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in America at that time.
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00:20:13,879 --> 00:20:16,006
- General Foods is
a huge conglomerate.
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They make everything
from Maxwell House Coffee
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00:20:18,508 --> 00:20:20,969
to Jello, and breakfast cereal,
427
00:20:20,969 --> 00:20:22,346
Post Toasties breakfast cereal,
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00:20:22,346 --> 00:20:24,765
one of the biggest
brands in America.
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00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,686
[gentle music]
430
00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:35,317
- Today's cereal
is marketed a lot
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as, like, a kids fun product.
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00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:40,656
In the 1930s, that
was not the case.
433
00:20:41,406 --> 00:20:43,867
- Breakfast cereal is a
staple of the American diet,
434
00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:46,745
but mostly for adults and
mostly is a health food.
435
00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:48,497
- It's cheap, it's shelf stable.
436
00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,791
You can feed people for
a long period of time
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00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:52,125
for not a lot of money.
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00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:54,294
It's a depression-proof food.
439
00:20:54,294 --> 00:20:57,631
- Kids are not seen as the
target demographic for cereal,
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nor did they have any reason
to be excited about eating it.
441
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,511
- Marjorie Post is in
a real good position.
442
00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:05,138
She doesn't need any help.
443
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And it's kind of the brilliant
audacity of Kay Kamen
444
00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:12,062
to say, "You could
be making money
445
00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:14,815
selling this food to kids."
446
00:21:15,691 --> 00:21:19,861
- In 1933, marketing
breakfast cereal to kids
447
00:21:19,861 --> 00:21:20,946
would seem ridiculous.
448
00:21:20,946 --> 00:21:23,657
You market to people who buy
the food, that's mom and dad.
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The kids don't have any input
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on what goes on
the kitchen table.
451
00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:31,164
- Kay Kamen realizes that
this is an untapped market.
452
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[gentle music]
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- When Kamen added Mickey
Mouse onto this box,
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cereal suddenly became not
just this bland breakfast food,
455
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but a form of
entertainment for children.
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[inpsiring music]
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- [Narrator] Post
agrees to pay Disney
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an unheard of $1.5 million
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00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:10,829
to license Mickey and friends
for her cereal boxes.
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The deal sets the stage
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for today's $40 billion
cereal industry.
462
00:22:15,959 --> 00:22:18,170
- This is the first
of what we know today.
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When you walk down the aisles
464
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and there's the captain,
and there's the count.
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And as I say that,
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00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:24,843
we all know what those
brands are, right?
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00:22:24,843 --> 00:22:26,345
The tiger, you know.
468
00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:28,138
Where'd that all come from?
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The mouse.
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00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:32,267
- [Narrator] Even as
he floods the market,
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Kamen keeps his promise to
Walt to prioritize high quality
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and a faithful depiction
of Mickey Mouse.
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- Mickey has so much
influence throughout the world
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00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:45,530
that he has to be
careful what he endorses.
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00:22:45,530 --> 00:22:47,574
- Walt's got to
approve the merchandise
476
00:22:47,574 --> 00:22:51,870
so his perfectionism and his
quality control could be there.
477
00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:53,705
- Kamen controlled
who got the license,
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he controlled the quality
of the merchandise,
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00:22:56,166 --> 00:22:58,585
and then it was his
own in-house artists
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that designed all
of the artwork.
481
00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:03,757
- Kay Kamen made
everything a standard.
482
00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:07,135
The colors, the style, the ears.
483
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So the thing that's
tying it all together
484
00:23:09,888 --> 00:23:13,183
is the Disney look,
the Disney feel,
485
00:23:13,183 --> 00:23:17,521
and that is what really took
the Disney merchandising side
486
00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:18,730
over the top.
487
00:23:18,730 --> 00:23:21,358
- [Narrator] Within four
years of Kamen's hiring,
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Disney licensing
explodes by 10,000%
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00:23:25,487 --> 00:23:28,365
and Disney merchandise
becomes more lucrative
490
00:23:28,365 --> 00:23:30,742
than the cartoons themselves.
491
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[pensive music]
492
00:23:37,874 --> 00:23:41,002
Now, with Kamen filling
the company's coffers,
493
00:23:41,002 --> 00:23:44,965
Walt embarks on his
most audacious plan yet.
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- He's gonna do the very first
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00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:50,220
animated, full-length
feature film,
496
00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:51,763
"Snow White."
497
00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:53,473
- [Narrator] If successful,
498
00:23:53,473 --> 00:23:55,559
"Snow White and
the Seven Dwarves"
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will propel animation forward
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and open the door
to a new generation
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00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,066
of marketable Disney characters.
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00:24:04,234 --> 00:24:06,236
But by September 1937,
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00:24:06,236 --> 00:24:09,865
the project is nearing
financial disaster.
504
00:24:09,865 --> 00:24:11,700
- "Snow White and
the Seven Dwarfs"
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00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:13,702
will cost $1.5 million
506
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,246
for the studio to
make in the 1930s,
507
00:24:16,246 --> 00:24:20,417
which was $1.5 million that
they simply did not have.
508
00:24:20,417 --> 00:24:24,421
- "Snow White" is a
financial money pit,
509
00:24:24,421 --> 00:24:30,802
and so in this moment, Kay
Kamen has to be a savior.
510
00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:33,138
[birds chirping]
511
00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:38,518
- Coffee?
512
00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:39,895
- No, thank you.
513
00:24:39,895 --> 00:24:42,814
- Kamen was under huge
financial pressures at that time
514
00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:45,901
because Walt's spending
was out of control.
515
00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:48,403
[pensive music]
516
00:24:52,741 --> 00:24:55,827
- [Kay] So what do you think
of the new Mickey samples?
517
00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:58,121
- My daughter's been
playing with them,
518
00:24:58,121 --> 00:25:00,457
but you know what
she really loves?
519
00:25:00,457 --> 00:25:02,125
That new princess.
520
00:25:03,543 --> 00:25:06,129
Mabel, come bring
that figure here.
521
00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:08,673
[pensive music]
522
00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:16,223
- Oh, I'm sorry.
523
00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:18,600
They shouldn't have sent
that with the samples.
524
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,230
That's a prototype
for a future project.
525
00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:26,983
It's not for sale.
526
00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:28,026
- Up to this point,
527
00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:30,403
any kind of merchandising
had followed the movie.
528
00:25:30,403 --> 00:25:32,948
You put the movie out and
then you sold products,
529
00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:34,241
because people like the movie.
530
00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:35,992
it's always been about
extracting value
531
00:25:35,992 --> 00:25:38,411
out of something
that already exists.
532
00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:40,539
- I'm very sorry, sweetheart,
533
00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:43,083
but I'm gonna have to
take that back with me.
534
00:25:43,083 --> 00:25:45,085
- No, it's mine.
535
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,172
- Listen, your daddy
can buy you one
536
00:25:49,172 --> 00:25:51,466
when the movie comes out.
537
00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:54,261
- There's gonna be
a movie about her?
538
00:25:55,804 --> 00:25:58,390
[suspenseful music]
539
00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:01,434
- And then Kay Kamen has an idea
540
00:26:01,434 --> 00:26:05,522
that will turn the movie
merchandising world on its head.
541
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:09,401
- You know what?
542
00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:11,611
She can keep it.
543
00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:13,822
[dramatic music]
544
00:26:13,822 --> 00:26:14,864
- This is the big bang.
545
00:26:14,864 --> 00:26:17,867
This is the moment that
changes marketing as we know it
546
00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:19,244
and helps to make "Snow White"
547
00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:23,248
the single most successful
movie of all time.
548
00:26:23,707 --> 00:26:26,626
- Would you like
to know her name?
549
00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:29,087
It's Snow White.
550
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:37,053
- [Narrator] On
December 21st, 1937,
551
00:26:37,053 --> 00:26:39,180
Walt Disney's
moonshot production
552
00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:41,683
of "Snow White and
the Seven Dwarves",
553
00:26:41,683 --> 00:26:44,561
the first ever
animated feature film,
554
00:26:44,561 --> 00:26:46,479
premieres in Los Angeles.
555
00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:49,983
- The premier of "Snow White"
was this beautiful thing.
556
00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:51,276
Everyone was wearing their tuxes
557
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:53,028
and their glitz and their glams.
558
00:26:53,028 --> 00:26:54,070
Shirley Temple was there.
559
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:57,616
And boy, oh, boy, was
this movie a hit.
560
00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:00,201
As soon as it got in
front of audiences,
561
00:27:00,201 --> 00:27:02,787
we could not get enough.
562
00:27:03,496 --> 00:27:06,458
- [Narrator] "Snow White" is
Walt Disney's masterpiece,
563
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:11,171
but behind the scenes, "Snow
White's" record smashing success
564
00:27:11,171 --> 00:27:13,715
is Kay Kamen's
crowning achievement.
565
00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:16,468
- Would you like
to know her name?
566
00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:18,970
It's Snow White.
567
00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:22,015
- Kay Kamen recognized,
568
00:27:22,015 --> 00:27:24,768
"Wait a minute, we can
use this merchandise
569
00:27:24,768 --> 00:27:27,854
to warm our audiences
up to the story
570
00:27:27,854 --> 00:27:30,023
and build anticipation."
571
00:27:30,023 --> 00:27:32,817
- His genius leap is that
he puts the product out
572
00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:34,819
before the movie comes out.
573
00:27:34,819 --> 00:27:36,821
- This little fellow is Bashful.
574
00:27:36,821 --> 00:27:39,240
He's secretly in love
with Snow White.
575
00:27:39,699 --> 00:27:43,244
- It's a promotional campaign
through these products.
576
00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:44,412
The market was flooded
577
00:27:44,412 --> 00:27:47,916
with more than 2,000
products for "Snow White".
578
00:27:47,916 --> 00:27:49,918
There was all
manner of clothing.
579
00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:52,837
There was dresses,
there was jewelry,
580
00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:55,090
and it was hugely successful.
581
00:27:55,548 --> 00:27:57,842
- They were making
"Snow White" costumes
582
00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:02,013
and here we have some of
the beginnings of cosplay,
583
00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:03,098
which by the 21st century,
584
00:28:03,139 --> 00:28:06,559
is also going to be an important
pop cultural phenomenon
585
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,270
that Disney is gonna
play a key role in.
586
00:28:09,854 --> 00:28:11,898
- [Narrator] And as the
film's run continues,
587
00:28:11,898 --> 00:28:16,027
Kamen's formula creates a
perpetual engine of profit.
588
00:28:16,027 --> 00:28:19,197
- You make some merchandise,
people get hyped for the movie,
589
00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:22,575
the movie's a hit, you
make more merchandise.
590
00:28:22,575 --> 00:28:23,785
- He created this feedback loop
591
00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:26,996
of the audience wanting
to experience that film
592
00:28:26,996 --> 00:28:29,708
over and over again
in different ways.
593
00:28:30,333 --> 00:28:32,585
- The idea that merchandise
would be on the shelves
594
00:28:32,585 --> 00:28:35,296
for weeks, or in
some cases months,
595
00:28:35,296 --> 00:28:37,799
before that film release,
596
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,384
this had never been done.
597
00:28:39,384 --> 00:28:42,470
It could have failed
spectacularly.
598
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:43,638
What it did instead,
599
00:28:43,638 --> 00:28:47,934
was to rewrite how motion
picture merchandising was done
600
00:28:47,934 --> 00:28:50,854
and how it has been
done ever since.
601
00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:54,441
- Having merchandise
based on a movie
602
00:28:54,441 --> 00:28:56,151
in the stores when
the movie comes out,
603
00:28:56,151 --> 00:29:00,321
is commonplace now, with
films such as "Star Wars"
604
00:29:00,321 --> 00:29:01,906
and the Marvel films,
605
00:29:01,906 --> 00:29:04,200
and that's all
because of Kay Kamen.
606
00:29:04,659 --> 00:29:06,077
- [Narrator] Kamen's
marketing magic
607
00:29:06,077 --> 00:29:07,829
powers the Walt Disney Studio
608
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:09,622
with a steady flow of income
609
00:29:09,622 --> 00:29:12,792
through the turbulence
of the war years.
610
00:29:12,792 --> 00:29:16,045
- In the '40s, Disney had
a lot of ups and downs
611
00:29:16,045 --> 00:29:19,299
and the merchandising aspect was
always there for the company
612
00:29:19,299 --> 00:29:22,594
and kept things afloat
when things were rough.
613
00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:24,179
- And it wasn't
just Mickey Mouse,
614
00:29:24,179 --> 00:29:25,221
it was Donald Duck,
615
00:29:25,221 --> 00:29:28,057
it was Goofy, "Pinocchio"
characters, "Bambi" characters.
616
00:29:28,057 --> 00:29:32,103
And so being able
to tap into that
617
00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:36,316
allowed Walt to keep
growing and expanding
618
00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,109
his artistic vision.
619
00:29:39,068 --> 00:29:41,696
[jazzy piano music]
620
00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:47,702
[patrons laughing]
621
00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:50,622
- In the fall of 1949,
622
00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:51,831
Kay Kamen and his wife Katie
623
00:29:51,831 --> 00:29:54,125
went to Paris to
talk to licensees.
624
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:55,460
Roy was also there on business
625
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:58,171
and Walt was in England
filming "Treasure Island".
626
00:29:58,171 --> 00:30:03,426
- Hey, Kamen, you got any more
money in that jacket for this?
627
00:30:03,426 --> 00:30:05,804
[laughing]
628
00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:09,808
- [Narrator] 17 years
after joining Disney,
629
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:14,729
Kamen is selling a record $100
million in licensed goods.
630
00:30:14,729 --> 00:30:16,272
- Cheers.
- [Walt] Ah, cheers.
631
00:30:16,272 --> 00:30:17,357
[glasses clinking]
632
00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:19,818
- He came along at
exactly the right time
633
00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:23,780
and had the same
vision that Walt had.
634
00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:27,992
He was the Walt Disney
of Disney merchandise.
635
00:30:28,451 --> 00:30:30,161
- [Narrator] What
none of the men know
636
00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:32,580
is that this is a
farewell dinner.
637
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:36,125
- Mm, gentlemen, I
better hit the road.
638
00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:39,128
The wife wants to see the
Eiffel Tower one last time
639
00:30:39,128 --> 00:30:40,797
before we head home.
640
00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:44,217
I'll see you stateside.
641
00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:46,719
- Can't wait.
- Safe travels.
642
00:30:50,431 --> 00:30:51,891
One more?
- I'm good.
643
00:30:51,891 --> 00:30:56,855
- Kamen never really got to see
how far the Disney brand went.
644
00:30:59,065 --> 00:31:00,692
- When Kay and Katie came home,
645
00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:03,486
their plane hit a
mountain off the Azores
646
00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:07,907
and the plane crash killed
all 48 people aboard.
647
00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:12,245
It was a tragic, tragic
ending to Kay Kamen's life.
648
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:17,625
And Walt and Roy were just
devastated by Kamen's passing.
649
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,922
- It really was Kay Kamen
that was responsible
650
00:31:22,922 --> 00:31:26,426
for making merchandise
one of the tent poles
651
00:31:26,426 --> 00:31:28,011
of Disney as a brand.
652
00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:33,558
And Roy figures, "Okay, I guess
we have to fill his shoes."
653
00:31:35,101 --> 00:31:36,227
- I've arranged meetings
654
00:31:36,227 --> 00:31:39,105
with the five biggest
marketing firms in the country.
655
00:31:39,105 --> 00:31:40,815
We'd better move quickly.
656
00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:43,985
- But Walt knows nobody,
not even Roy Disney,
657
00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:48,031
was as adept at bringing
money into the Disney door.
658
00:31:48,031 --> 00:31:50,074
Kay Kamen was irreplaceable.
659
00:31:50,074 --> 00:31:52,201
[suspenseful music]
660
00:31:52,201 --> 00:31:54,495
- Cancel all the meetings, Roy.
661
00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:02,211
- [Narrator] Without Kay Kamen,
662
00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:06,591
money from Disney merchandising
begins to plateau.
663
00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:07,675
- So they have a problem.
664
00:32:07,675 --> 00:32:09,802
Kay Kamen truly
changed the game
665
00:32:09,802 --> 00:32:14,724
and merchandise has gone
from a bit of a crutch,
666
00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:16,267
to a tent pole.
667
00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:18,519
They don't want merchandising,
668
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:20,188
they absolutely needed it.
669
00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:22,607
And Kay Kamen was
really one of a kind.
670
00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:25,693
No one can just
step into his shoes.
671
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:29,155
- Certainly, Disney
merchandising went on,
672
00:32:29,155 --> 00:32:30,156
no question.
673
00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:31,783
And Roy had a
bigger role to play,
674
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:34,702
because somebody had
to fill that void.
675
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,205
- [Narrator] Adding
to Roy's woes
676
00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:41,250
is Walt's newest, most
expensive dream yet.
677
00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:44,003
- Now he's giving
us a theme park,
678
00:32:44,003 --> 00:32:46,047
a park that tells stories.
679
00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:47,423
Disneyland.
680
00:32:47,423 --> 00:32:53,221
- Disneyland is gonna be 12
times the cost of "Snow White".
681
00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,181
- [Narrator] Needing
to tap new sources
682
00:32:55,181 --> 00:32:57,725
of merchandising and
production revenue,
683
00:32:57,725 --> 00:33:00,103
[magical music]
684
00:33:00,603 --> 00:33:03,564
the Disneys strike a
deal with the ABC network
685
00:33:03,564 --> 00:33:05,316
to create a weekly TV show.
686
00:33:05,316 --> 00:33:08,403
- [Announcer] Walt
Disney's Disneyland.
687
00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:09,737
- [Narrator] In
exchange for help
688
00:33:09,737 --> 00:33:12,115
with funding the
park's construction.
689
00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:15,410
- And part of that TV show is
gonna be sort of this homage
690
00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:18,454
to the American West and
American folk heroes.
691
00:33:18,454 --> 00:33:20,999
[inspiring music]
692
00:33:22,125 --> 00:33:24,669
- [Director] Davy Crockett,
scene 12, take one.
693
00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:26,713
Mark, action.
694
00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:29,257
[suspenseful music]
695
00:33:33,928 --> 00:33:35,179
Cut.
696
00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:38,558
- Norman.
697
00:33:40,435 --> 00:33:42,437
The shot feels flat.
698
00:33:42,979 --> 00:33:44,355
- [Narrator] With his TV series,
699
00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:48,026
Walt is once again
raising the creative bar.
700
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:51,779
- Walt does his shoots like
he was making a movie,
701
00:33:51,779 --> 00:33:53,698
but he's making a
television show.
702
00:33:53,698 --> 00:33:56,325
He's gonna film
things on location.
703
00:33:56,325 --> 00:33:57,410
That's a huge departure
704
00:33:57,410 --> 00:34:00,455
from what people had
been used to at the time.
705
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:03,875
In its first iteration,
706
00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:06,210
TV was basically an
outgrowth of radio.
707
00:34:06,210 --> 00:34:08,463
You had basically live programs
708
00:34:08,463 --> 00:34:10,214
in front of studio audiences.
709
00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:13,134
- "Ed Sullivan", "Jackie
Gleason", "I love Lucy".
710
00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:16,471
The shows were shot on
exactly the same set,
711
00:34:16,471 --> 00:34:17,805
exactly the same stage,
712
00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:20,266
week after week,
or day after day.
713
00:34:20,266 --> 00:34:22,268
- Television was
not about quality,
714
00:34:22,268 --> 00:34:24,812
television was about cheapness.
715
00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:26,856
Not with Walt Disney.
716
00:34:26,856 --> 00:34:28,024
- Let's put the
camera on a track
717
00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:31,235
and dolly along with
Crockett as he walks.
718
00:34:31,694 --> 00:34:34,238
- You wanna shoot the
whole sequence again?
719
00:34:34,238 --> 00:34:35,656
That'll put us into overtime.
720
00:34:35,656 --> 00:34:36,824
- Don't worry about that.
721
00:34:36,824 --> 00:34:39,952
I want to feel like we're
in the woods with him.
722
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:44,332
- The "Davy Crockett"
show has a budget
723
00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:47,335
that Walt would exceed
by about double,
724
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,337
and it's not just double
725
00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:51,172
what is budgeted
for "Davy Crockett",
726
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:53,257
it's more than double
than what's being spent
727
00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:57,136
on any other television
episodes at the time.
728
00:34:57,136 --> 00:35:01,057
- "I love Lucy" was spending
50,000 on an episode.
729
00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:03,893
For three episodes
of "Davy Crockett",
730
00:35:03,893 --> 00:35:07,396
Walt is spending 700,000.
731
00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:12,026
[pensive music]
732
00:35:14,445 --> 00:35:15,905
The problem is this:
733
00:35:15,905 --> 00:35:20,451
Walt and Roy don't know
how to monetize TV yet.
734
00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:23,913
How do you see a return
on that investment?
735
00:35:24,997 --> 00:35:26,958
- Walt, Walt!
736
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,502
[suspenseful music]
737
00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:35,258
We need to talk about
this Crockett show.
738
00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:38,886
- Kay Kamen was gone and
television's a whole new market,
739
00:35:38,886 --> 00:35:41,222
and the studio didn't
have his vision
740
00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:45,059
to figure out, what's
gonna be the merchandise?
741
00:35:45,059 --> 00:35:46,435
Like, what are you gonna imagine
742
00:35:46,435 --> 00:35:48,896
children are gonna
be screaming for?
743
00:35:49,355 --> 00:35:51,482
- We're hundreds of
thousands in the hole, Walt.
744
00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:53,359
If you wanna make movies,
stick to making movies.
745
00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:55,319
- Leave the creative
decisions to me, Rory.
746
00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,446
- It's bigger than
the creative, Walt.
747
00:35:57,446 --> 00:35:59,615
Please, open your eyes.
748
00:35:59,615 --> 00:36:00,950
The studio is bleeding cash.
749
00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:03,744
We're building a theme
park for God's sakes.
750
00:36:04,203 --> 00:36:06,164
Something needs to start
making money around here
751
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:08,291
or we won't be making anything.
752
00:36:09,625 --> 00:36:12,336
- Roy is apoplectic.
753
00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:15,214
You are spending
the budget of movies
754
00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:17,425
to make an episode
of television.
755
00:36:17,425 --> 00:36:20,344
We are going to lose our shirts.
756
00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:24,640
Disney doesn't just need money.
757
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,767
They need to find it quickly.
758
00:36:33,149 --> 00:36:33,858
- Turn!
759
00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:35,234
- [Narrator] On
December 15th, 1954,
760
00:36:35,234 --> 00:36:37,612
the first episode of
Disney's "Davy Crockett"
761
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three-part mini series
premieres on ABC.
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40 million viewers, about one
in four Americans, tune in.
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- People of the 1950s,
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they were getting
this A-class content,
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which was worthy of
being shown in a cinema,
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in their living room.
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- The thing is, once again,
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much like the runaway
budget of "Snow White",
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Walt kinda loses his mind
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when it comes to his
budgets for television.
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- Look at the numbers.
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They don't lie.
- It's not that bad, Roy.
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- Not that bad? Are you looking
at what I'm looking at?
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- It's a good show.
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- If you're looking
at "Davy Crockett"
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from a television
return standpoint,
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Walt has yet again dug
his studio into a hole.
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[suspenseful music]
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- [Secretary] Sorry
to interrupt.
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These calls have been
coming in all morning.
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- Thank you.
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From Wanamaker's department
store in Philadelphia.
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Something about fur hats?
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- Davy Crockett.
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What do they want?
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- They wanna know if we have
raccoon hats they can sell.
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Apparently, they have
customers clamoring for them.
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Marshall Fields in Chicago,
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Neiman Marcus in Texas,
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Macy's in New York.
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Everybody wants these hats.
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- Because the whole country's
in love with Davy Crockett.
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- "Davy Crockett" turned
out to be much bigger
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than the studio had anticipated,
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because now you had the
added medium of television.
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- Movies had a
slower distribution,
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so its fandom sort
of moved in waves.
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Whereas with television,
it was instantaneous.
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Everybody went home,
watched "Davy Crockett".
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Everybody caught fever that
night at the exact same moment.
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- And that was an
entirely new phenomenon
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that Disney was
not prepared for.
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- And suddenly, you have this
amazing character with his hat
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and every kid in
America wants one.
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- [Narrator] Thanks to
years of watching Kay Kamen
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work his merchandising magic,
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the Disneys recognized
the opportunity at hand.
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- He realized the
power of merchandising
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could mingle into every
corner of what he was doing.
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It didn't just have to
be Mickey Mouse's face.
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I can have really,
really grounded tales
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and people still
want a piece of that.
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- [Narrator] Disney begins
selling raccoon skin caps
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as official, licensed
"Crockett" merchandise.
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- Over 5,000 caps were
being sold every day.
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- The demand for "Davy Crockett"
caps became so extreme
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that raccoon skins
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literally just disappeared
off of the market.
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- This was the first time ever
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that something on television
made people go out
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and buy something to
capture the magic of TV.
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- If you read the newspapers
from 1954 at Christmastime,
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every single letter that
a child writes in to Santa
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is asking for a
Davy Crockett cap.
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The entire country is
collectively playacting
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as Davy Crockett.
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- [Narrator] And the
company finds other ways
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to leverage the
"Crockett" property,
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making millions
off of recordings
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of the "Davy Crockett"
theme song,
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promotional tours of
its star, Fess Parker,
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and a ticketed
re-release of the series
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as a full length feature
in movie theaters.
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- It eclipsed anything that
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had come before in pop culture.
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- "Davy Crockett" amounts
to what we can understand
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to be the first real
popular, cultural craze.
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[gentle music]
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- [Narrator] Crockett's
phenomenal success
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has awakened something
in Walt Disney.
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- In the early years, he
didn't necessarily care
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about creating this industry
of merch around his films.
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- He sees the potential
of merchandise
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as so much more than
something to play with.
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- For Walt, it still
wasn't about the money,
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it was about the
new possibilities
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that came out of it.
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- Merchandise can immerse people
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in the kind of rich experience
that they know they'll get
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when they go to
see a Disney movie
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or when they walk
into a Disney park.
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- It's really this moment
where Walt realizes
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the absolutely unique
power his brand has,
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'cause no one else
has entertainment
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cornered in every direction.
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- He sees the different
components of the company
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working with each other.
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Now you have a character
who can be on a TV show
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and in a film, and
an action figure,
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and you can meet them in
person at the Disney parks.
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And there's really no
end to what you can do
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with this singular character.
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- In creating all these Disney
productions and experiences,
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people could live
in a Disney world.
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[inspiring music]
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- [Narrator] Walt's concept
will become known in the future
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as a synergy map,
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a plan for synchronizing
and maximizing success.
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- Disney finds a way to
synergistically touch
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every part of Americans' lives,
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and it becomes this
incredible juggernaut.
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- [Narrator] Disney's model
will spark a global industry
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of licensed characters.
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- George Lucas with
the "Star Wars" films,
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Mattel with Barbie,
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Nintendo with its products.
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Now most companies
want to emulate Disney,
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whether they'll say so or not.
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- [Narrator] But Disney remains
the world's leading licenser
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with 60 billion per
year in global sales.
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- Nowadays, where we can find
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our favorite movie
or movie characters
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as an action figure,
a breakfast serial,
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a cartoon, and a video game,
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it's hard to believe that there
was ever a time in Hollywood
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where merchandising just
really wasn't a thing.
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When you really try to wrap
your head around the impact
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of the decisions made by Roy
and Walt Disney or Kay Kamen,
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[laughing]
[glasses clink]
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so many of the things that we
see in our day-to-day lives
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wouldn't be there without them.
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[dramatic music]
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