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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,296 --> 00:00:07,799 [pensive music] 2 00:00:09,426 --> 00:00:11,469 [knocking] - Hello? 3 00:00:11,469 --> 00:00:12,846 - [Narrator] It's been eight years 4 00:00:12,846 --> 00:00:14,597 since the world first fell in love 5 00:00:14,597 --> 00:00:18,810 with Walt Disney's cartoon star, Mickey Mouse. 6 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:21,396 - This little animated every-man mouse 7 00:00:21,396 --> 00:00:22,313 [baton clacking] 8 00:00:22,313 --> 00:00:25,734 has so captivated the world by storm. 9 00:00:26,609 --> 00:00:28,778 [knocking] - Hello? 10 00:00:29,529 --> 00:00:31,072 - Mickey became more to people 11 00:00:31,072 --> 00:00:33,408 than just a character on a screen. 12 00:00:33,408 --> 00:00:35,493 [knocking] - Hello? 13 00:00:36,995 --> 00:00:38,163 Do you have it? 14 00:00:38,163 --> 00:00:39,205 - Have what? 15 00:00:39,205 --> 00:00:40,540 - People see themselves in Mickey, 16 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:44,210 and Mickey becomes sort of an icon to everyone. 17 00:00:44,210 --> 00:00:47,672 - There becomes a demand for people to have some ownership 18 00:00:47,672 --> 00:00:50,508 of that story, of that thing that they love. 19 00:00:51,134 --> 00:00:53,678 - [Narrator] Now, after conquering cartoons, 20 00:00:53,678 --> 00:00:56,765 Mickey Mouse has sparked another revolution. 21 00:00:56,765 --> 00:01:01,603 - The idea of taking a beloved character from the screen 22 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:03,897 and putting it on everything, 23 00:01:03,897 --> 00:01:05,899 this had never been done before. 24 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:08,276 [tapping] - I'll take two. 25 00:01:08,276 --> 00:01:09,736 No, three. 26 00:01:10,361 --> 00:01:12,363 - Now, you can take the magic 27 00:01:12,363 --> 00:01:15,867 of the character you love from the theater, home. 28 00:01:17,202 --> 00:01:18,953 It was groundbreaking. 29 00:01:19,412 --> 00:01:21,289 - [Narrator] Beginning with Mickey Mouse, 30 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:24,042 Disney will revolutionize entertainment 31 00:01:24,042 --> 00:01:27,295 by lifting its star characters off the screen 32 00:01:27,295 --> 00:01:31,174 and landing them in almost every facet of American life. 33 00:01:31,174 --> 00:01:33,468 - It was an entirely new phenomenon. 34 00:01:33,468 --> 00:01:35,553 - Merchandising could be anything. 35 00:01:35,553 --> 00:01:36,888 It could be everything. 36 00:01:36,888 --> 00:01:38,640 [dramatic music] 37 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,975 - [Narrator] By pioneering character licensing 38 00:01:40,975 --> 00:01:42,143 for merchandise... 39 00:01:42,143 --> 00:01:44,687 - Basically, he created cereal culture. 40 00:01:44,687 --> 00:01:47,148 - [Narrator] Disney will launch new industries. 41 00:01:47,148 --> 00:01:48,983 - Where'd that all come from? 42 00:01:48,983 --> 00:01:49,859 The mouse. 43 00:01:49,859 --> 00:01:51,903 - [Narrator] It will take a big gamble... 44 00:01:51,903 --> 00:01:54,823 - Money was really being left on the table, left and right. 45 00:01:54,823 --> 00:01:57,408 - Mr. Disney, I believe your Mickey Mouse 46 00:01:57,408 --> 00:01:58,993 is an untapped goldmine. 47 00:01:58,993 --> 00:02:01,162 - [Narrator] To leap from movie screens 48 00:02:01,162 --> 00:02:03,081 to virtually everywhere else. 49 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:04,040 [paper tearing] 50 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,959 - Marshall Fields in Chicago. 51 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:07,001 [glasses clink] 52 00:02:07,001 --> 00:02:08,253 - It's a big, big risk. 53 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:10,296 - Neiman Marcus in Texas. 54 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:13,007 - It could have failed spectacularly. 55 00:02:13,007 --> 00:02:14,467 - Macy's in New York. 56 00:02:14,467 --> 00:02:15,927 - This is the big bang. 57 00:02:15,927 --> 00:02:19,597 This is the moment that creates merchandising as we know it. 58 00:02:19,597 --> 00:02:23,810 - He says he can make us rich beyond our wildest dreams. 59 00:02:23,810 --> 00:02:26,354 [dramatic music] 60 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:47,292 [lively music] 61 00:02:47,792 --> 00:02:51,337 - [Narrator] At an upstart animation studio in Hollywood, 62 00:02:51,337 --> 00:02:54,090 27-year-old filmmaker, Walt Disney, 63 00:02:54,090 --> 00:02:56,259 is focused on getting more eyeballs 64 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:58,803 in front of his breakout new star. 65 00:02:58,803 --> 00:03:01,598 - Hello, yes, I'm calling to see 66 00:03:01,598 --> 00:03:03,892 if you're playing the new Mickey Mouse cartoons 67 00:03:03,892 --> 00:03:05,518 I've heard so much about. 68 00:03:05,518 --> 00:03:09,063 - [Narrator] Mickey is quickly becoming the king of cartoons 69 00:03:09,063 --> 00:03:13,234 and the secret to his success is synchronized sound. 70 00:03:13,234 --> 00:03:15,195 [playful music] 71 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:20,366 But to pull it off, Walt has dug his studio in deep. 72 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:22,911 [pensive music] 73 00:03:23,578 --> 00:03:26,206 - My pals and I really wanna see it. 74 00:03:26,664 --> 00:03:29,792 Well, do you know what theaters are playing it? 75 00:03:31,085 --> 00:03:32,503 Thank you. 76 00:03:33,922 --> 00:03:35,048 - Walt. 77 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:37,050 - I'm just building more buzz, Roy. 78 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:39,427 That's how you fan the flames. 79 00:03:40,011 --> 00:03:43,181 - Did you even read that before you signed it? 80 00:03:43,181 --> 00:03:44,682 - Of course not. 81 00:03:44,682 --> 00:03:46,142 We need them. 82 00:03:46,726 --> 00:03:49,354 - [Narrator] Recording the sound for Mickey Mouse shorts 83 00:03:49,354 --> 00:03:53,399 requires licensing and expensive cutting edge technology. 84 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:56,527 - To get this technology, he signed on to a 10 year contract 85 00:03:56,527 --> 00:04:00,365 during which he's going to shell out $26,000 every year, 86 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:03,785 plus a percentage of the profits coming from his cartoons. 87 00:04:03,785 --> 00:04:06,871 - Walt, this deal is going to bleed us dry. 88 00:04:06,871 --> 00:04:10,541 We'd have to double our output just to keep the lights on. 89 00:04:13,002 --> 00:04:15,171 - Then we'll double our output. 90 00:04:15,838 --> 00:04:19,717 - So despite the fact that they have a successful product, 91 00:04:19,717 --> 00:04:22,303 because of the deal that Walt Disney signed, 92 00:04:22,303 --> 00:04:26,015 it costs more to make the Mickey Mouse shorts 93 00:04:26,015 --> 00:04:28,309 than they are making from them. 94 00:04:28,851 --> 00:04:29,978 - [Narrator] The man responsible 95 00:04:29,978 --> 00:04:33,147 for funding almost all of Walt's ideas, 96 00:04:33,147 --> 00:04:34,941 is his brother Roy. 97 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:39,028 - Walt's the idea man, Roy is the businessman. 98 00:04:39,028 --> 00:04:42,740 - Walt Disney was obsessed with quality, 99 00:04:42,740 --> 00:04:44,409 regardless of cost, 100 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:49,706 and so poor Roy is constantly looking for revenue. 101 00:04:49,706 --> 00:04:52,542 - Walt's spending money left, right, and center, 102 00:04:52,542 --> 00:04:54,669 and Roy now has to make ends meet. 103 00:04:54,669 --> 00:04:56,921 And then suddenly, the phone rings 104 00:04:56,921 --> 00:04:58,506 and a lifeline is thrown to him, 105 00:04:58,506 --> 00:05:02,260 and all he has to do is just say yes. 106 00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:05,638 [phone ringing] 107 00:05:06,597 --> 00:05:07,765 - Hello. 108 00:05:07,765 --> 00:05:09,600 Yes, this is him. 109 00:05:10,476 --> 00:05:14,105 - [Narrator] A small doll maker has called the Disney Studio 110 00:05:14,105 --> 00:05:16,274 with a business proposition. 111 00:05:17,025 --> 00:05:18,484 - For when? 112 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:21,988 Oh, not a problem at all. 113 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:24,449 [gentle music] 114 00:05:26,826 --> 00:05:27,744 Walt, a minute? 115 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:29,871 - Let's add some more steam lines to the hot dogs. 116 00:05:29,871 --> 00:05:31,372 I want the audience to smell them. 117 00:05:31,372 --> 00:05:33,666 - I just got off the phone with a New York merchandiser. 118 00:05:33,666 --> 00:05:35,543 - The shoe there, it looks a little off. 119 00:05:35,543 --> 00:05:38,338 - He wants to produce Mickey Mouse products. 120 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,132 Dolls, toys, things like that. 121 00:05:41,966 --> 00:05:44,177 We get a fee for every item sold. 122 00:05:45,845 --> 00:05:47,055 - Sure, Roy. 123 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:48,556 Have at it. 124 00:05:49,223 --> 00:05:50,433 Now the shadow... 125 00:05:50,433 --> 00:05:54,020 - Walt only cared about doing good work. 126 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:56,522 He didn't necessarily care about 127 00:05:56,522 --> 00:06:00,234 how to monetize his characters or his brand. 128 00:06:02,278 --> 00:06:03,696 - [Narrator] Roy signs an agreement 129 00:06:03,696 --> 00:06:05,990 granting the New York doll maker permission 130 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:08,117 to make a stuffed Mickey Mouse 131 00:06:08,117 --> 00:06:12,914 in exchange for a percentage of every item sold. 132 00:06:13,456 --> 00:06:16,751 - In the 1920s, this is a brand new idea. 133 00:06:16,751 --> 00:06:18,336 - It's crazy now when you see 134 00:06:18,336 --> 00:06:21,506 how much movie merchandise is out there, 135 00:06:21,506 --> 00:06:23,383 to realize that merchandise 136 00:06:23,383 --> 00:06:25,218 wasn't something that was thought of 137 00:06:25,218 --> 00:06:27,178 when it came to producing films. 138 00:06:27,178 --> 00:06:29,889 - Studios knew that they could bring people in the door 139 00:06:29,889 --> 00:06:32,058 with a new film, but then what? 140 00:06:32,058 --> 00:06:35,186 The only product was really the film itself. 141 00:06:35,186 --> 00:06:36,354 - Consumerism and film, 142 00:06:36,354 --> 00:06:38,856 those are still two very separate entities. 143 00:06:38,856 --> 00:06:40,400 Movies do not sell products. 144 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,110 Products do not sell movies. 145 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:44,445 - The potential for making money 146 00:06:44,445 --> 00:06:46,072 through merchandising Mickey, 147 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:48,866 most of that came from the toy companies. 148 00:06:49,325 --> 00:06:51,160 - In the 1920s, Americans have access 149 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,372 to this abundance of manufactured goods 150 00:06:54,372 --> 00:06:57,333 and there's all kinds of toys that every kid wants. 151 00:06:57,333 --> 00:06:59,669 The Erector Set, model trains, 152 00:06:59,669 --> 00:07:01,796 all of this stuff we're seeing for the first time 153 00:07:01,796 --> 00:07:04,590 as a collective community, as a nation. 154 00:07:04,590 --> 00:07:05,967 - [Natalia] The toy industry 155 00:07:05,967 --> 00:07:08,428 is a crowded and competitive industry. 156 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:10,304 - And marketing is a new thing. 157 00:07:10,304 --> 00:07:12,515 So as you go back and look at ads, 158 00:07:12,515 --> 00:07:13,766 they were very oriented 159 00:07:13,766 --> 00:07:17,395 toward, "This product will last you 30 years." 160 00:07:17,395 --> 00:07:18,938 - Like, it's literally describing 161 00:07:18,938 --> 00:07:21,023 everything that this product will do, 162 00:07:21,023 --> 00:07:25,153 and cost a lot of time and resources. 163 00:07:25,778 --> 00:07:27,530 - But with Mickey Mouse, 164 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:31,701 the companies realized that the hard work was done, 165 00:07:31,701 --> 00:07:32,785 the marketing was done. 166 00:07:32,785 --> 00:07:34,745 People knew who Mickey Mouse was. 167 00:07:34,745 --> 00:07:37,206 They just had to make the toys of something 168 00:07:37,206 --> 00:07:39,208 that people already love. 169 00:07:39,917 --> 00:07:41,169 - [Narrator] In the first year, 170 00:07:41,169 --> 00:07:45,673 Roy's deal with one company brings in just $63, 171 00:07:45,673 --> 00:07:48,217 a little over a thousand today. 172 00:07:48,217 --> 00:07:50,803 - Merchandise that was produced in the early years, 173 00:07:50,803 --> 00:07:52,013 it was very limited. 174 00:07:52,013 --> 00:07:54,849 It might be an occasional doll, it could be a figurine. 175 00:07:54,849 --> 00:07:56,934 There wasn't very much that was produced, 176 00:07:56,934 --> 00:07:58,186 but it was a bonus to Roy. 177 00:07:58,186 --> 00:08:00,813 It was money that they didn't have before. 178 00:08:00,813 --> 00:08:03,483 - [Narrator] Roy realizes Mickey Mouse toys 179 00:08:03,483 --> 00:08:04,775 are a golden goose 180 00:08:04,775 --> 00:08:08,029 and starts accepting more licensing contracts. 181 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:11,782 - Opportunities came to them by happenstance. 182 00:08:11,782 --> 00:08:13,784 They weren't really involved in the process. 183 00:08:13,784 --> 00:08:15,578 - It was just, "Give us the money, 184 00:08:15,578 --> 00:08:18,039 go ahead, use the character." 185 00:08:18,039 --> 00:08:20,541 [pensive music] 186 00:08:22,043 --> 00:08:25,463 - The problem is this, the merchandising vendors, 187 00:08:25,463 --> 00:08:29,300 they don't have the reverence and respect 188 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:32,136 for the intellectual property of Mickey Mouse 189 00:08:32,136 --> 00:08:33,804 that the Disneys do. 190 00:08:39,977 --> 00:08:41,938 - Masks are 10 cents each. 191 00:08:41,938 --> 00:08:44,524 I can do you two for 15. 192 00:08:46,567 --> 00:08:48,694 Ah, Mickey Mouse doll. 193 00:08:48,694 --> 00:08:50,363 One of our best sellers. 194 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:52,031 Almost sold out. 195 00:08:53,658 --> 00:08:56,202 [suspenseful music] 196 00:08:58,788 --> 00:09:00,665 - Can you believe this? 197 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:02,416 - His bestseller. 198 00:09:04,460 --> 00:09:06,671 - Does this look like Mickey to you? 199 00:09:06,671 --> 00:09:09,340 - Walt, your cartoons are awfully expensive. 200 00:09:09,340 --> 00:09:12,385 That doll is the only thing keeping us afloat. 201 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:13,594 - If we let these pretenders 202 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:15,054 do whatever they want with Mickey, 203 00:09:15,054 --> 00:09:17,723 kids won't even recognize the real one. 204 00:09:17,723 --> 00:09:19,767 What's Mickey worth then? 205 00:09:19,767 --> 00:09:20,893 - Walt, from day one, 206 00:09:20,893 --> 00:09:23,020 was obsessed with his work being distinctive 207 00:09:23,020 --> 00:09:24,272 in terms of quality. 208 00:09:24,272 --> 00:09:26,107 So a junky Mickey Mouse doll 209 00:09:26,107 --> 00:09:27,817 that looks nothing like Mickey Mouse 210 00:09:27,817 --> 00:09:31,737 really damages the reputation of all of his work. 211 00:09:31,737 --> 00:09:33,823 - Any piece of material that is created 212 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:34,907 with the name of Disney 213 00:09:34,907 --> 00:09:36,242 that doesn't meet the Disney standard 214 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:38,744 that he's working so hard to create within his studio, 215 00:09:38,744 --> 00:09:39,870 is a threat to the thing 216 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:41,747 that he's creating in the first place. 217 00:09:41,747 --> 00:09:43,916 [dramatic music] 218 00:09:43,916 --> 00:09:45,084 - Roy has to be thinking, 219 00:09:45,084 --> 00:09:47,920 "You wanna have these incredible flights of fancy? 220 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,630 That costs money. 221 00:09:49,630 --> 00:09:51,465 I found you money. 222 00:09:51,465 --> 00:09:53,718 If you want to keep making Mickey, 223 00:09:53,718 --> 00:09:56,554 this is the easiest way to do it." 224 00:09:57,972 --> 00:10:00,099 - You gonna buy that, or what? 225 00:10:05,146 --> 00:10:06,355 - [Narrator] Walt and Roy Disney 226 00:10:06,355 --> 00:10:09,483 are at loggerheads over Mickey Mouse toys. 227 00:10:09,483 --> 00:10:12,361 Where Roy sees a much needed revenue stream, 228 00:10:12,361 --> 00:10:15,489 Walt sees a drag on his creation. 229 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:18,492 - Merchandising is a brand new world. 230 00:10:18,492 --> 00:10:20,745 No one knows how to navigate it. 231 00:10:20,745 --> 00:10:22,038 - The problem is the quality. 232 00:10:22,038 --> 00:10:26,125 Walt, from day one, has a vision of excellence and quality, 233 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:28,711 and there's no quality control in the merchandise. 234 00:10:28,711 --> 00:10:31,672 - But Roy figures this merchandise 235 00:10:31,672 --> 00:10:33,049 is what's keeping us afloat. 236 00:10:33,049 --> 00:10:35,468 So you have Roy pulling in one direction 237 00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:38,471 and Walt pulling the other direction. 238 00:10:39,263 --> 00:10:41,599 [tense music] 239 00:10:42,099 --> 00:10:44,435 - Have a seat, we'll be with you in a moment. 240 00:10:44,435 --> 00:10:45,770 - Thank you. 241 00:10:47,104 --> 00:10:51,692 - And then, enter a stranger from Kansas City 242 00:10:51,692 --> 00:10:53,069 named Kay Kamen. 243 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:55,946 - Kay Kamen is this marketing whiz kid. 244 00:10:55,946 --> 00:10:58,366 - He is an absolute genius at moving product. 245 00:10:58,366 --> 00:11:00,951 The kinda guy who can talk a dog off of a meat truck, 246 00:11:00,951 --> 00:11:01,827 as they would say. 247 00:11:01,827 --> 00:11:03,913 - He had sort of a scattershot early life. 248 00:11:03,913 --> 00:11:06,874 He worked in the mills braiding straw hats, 249 00:11:06,874 --> 00:11:09,418 and then he got into the children's clothing trade. 250 00:11:09,418 --> 00:11:12,797 - [Narrator] Kay Kamen pioneered a novel marketing technique 251 00:11:12,797 --> 00:11:14,799 for a line of boys clothing 252 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:19,220 by creating a branded comic strip character to sell it. 253 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:21,222 - He recognized that entertainment 254 00:11:21,222 --> 00:11:23,099 is what people would pay for. 255 00:11:23,099 --> 00:11:26,060 That there was just hopefully that little extra 256 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:28,062 that was the joy factor. 257 00:11:28,062 --> 00:11:31,357 And a good character could fulfill that. 258 00:11:31,899 --> 00:11:34,360 - And he got wind of the success of Mickey Mouse 259 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,779 and he thought this was a character 260 00:11:36,779 --> 00:11:40,991 that was going to make the company, and himself, 261 00:11:40,991 --> 00:11:42,076 a lot of money. 262 00:11:42,076 --> 00:11:43,536 - He wears a middle part, 263 00:11:43,536 --> 00:11:45,996 kinda like the guy on your Pringles can, 264 00:11:45,996 --> 00:11:47,873 suits that are out of date. 265 00:11:47,873 --> 00:11:52,378 He's bristling with intense, nervous, kinetic energy, 266 00:11:52,378 --> 00:11:56,716 and he hasn't slept all night in anticipation of this pitch. 267 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:59,218 [tense music] 268 00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:03,180 - A Mr. Kay Kamen is here to see you. 269 00:12:09,812 --> 00:12:10,896 - Mr. Disney, 270 00:12:10,896 --> 00:12:14,442 I believe your Mickey Mouse is an untapped gold mine 271 00:12:14,942 --> 00:12:19,363 and can make all of us rich beyond our wildest dreams. 272 00:12:20,322 --> 00:12:22,074 - Kamen saw a huge opportunity 273 00:12:22,074 --> 00:12:23,826 to be out there, selling Mickey 274 00:12:23,826 --> 00:12:25,911 and really supervising the process, 275 00:12:25,911 --> 00:12:28,080 making all of them a lot of money. 276 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,874 - And he walks right into their office and says, 277 00:12:29,874 --> 00:12:32,376 "Give me control over the merchandise." 278 00:12:33,794 --> 00:12:36,380 - Roy, this is Mr. Kamen. 279 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:41,051 He says he can make us rich beyond our wildest dreams. 280 00:12:41,051 --> 00:12:43,596 [tense music] 281 00:13:01,322 --> 00:13:02,907 - This actually happened. 282 00:13:02,907 --> 00:13:03,949 He drains his savings, 283 00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:07,828 he takes that cash, and sews it into his coat. 284 00:13:07,828 --> 00:13:11,081 This is a bizarre turn of events. 285 00:13:11,081 --> 00:13:13,667 [suspenseful music] 286 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,129 - Gentlemen, 287 00:13:17,129 --> 00:13:20,800 hire me and I will make you all this money 288 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,220 plus more than you can count. 289 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:27,807 - Roy's just gotta be terribly impressed, 290 00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:29,767 but Walt doesn't care, he's the creative. 291 00:13:29,767 --> 00:13:31,852 Money never matters to Walt. 292 00:13:33,729 --> 00:13:36,857 - Mr. Kamen, that's all well and good, 293 00:13:37,858 --> 00:13:41,654 but what can you do about this? 294 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:44,907 - Kay Kamen realizes 295 00:13:44,907 --> 00:13:47,618 he's actually been taking the wrong tack. 296 00:13:49,119 --> 00:13:51,997 - But he is totally prepared for this. 297 00:13:51,997 --> 00:13:53,666 - From his own prior practices, 298 00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:58,712 he really understood the value of protecting this character. 299 00:13:58,712 --> 00:14:00,631 - And the brilliance of Kay Kamen 300 00:14:00,631 --> 00:14:03,008 is that he pivots on a dime. 301 00:14:03,008 --> 00:14:05,594 [suspenseful music] 302 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,390 - Mr. Disney. 303 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:12,935 Under my watch, 304 00:14:12,935 --> 00:14:16,397 you'll never see a second rate Mickey doll like this again. 305 00:14:16,397 --> 00:14:17,481 - How? 306 00:14:17,982 --> 00:14:20,359 - Not a single piece of merchandise will be made 307 00:14:20,359 --> 00:14:23,362 without your personal approval. 308 00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:25,656 [tense music] 309 00:14:25,656 --> 00:14:27,116 - And in that moment, 310 00:14:27,116 --> 00:14:29,660 Walt Disney realizes that he and Kay Kamen 311 00:14:29,660 --> 00:14:31,620 are singing from the same hymn sheet 312 00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:35,457 and that they both go to the church of quality. 313 00:14:36,834 --> 00:14:39,670 - Alright, Mr. Kamen, deal. 314 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:42,172 [uplifting music] 315 00:14:45,342 --> 00:14:48,262 - [Narrator] Kamen is put in charge of this new direction 316 00:14:48,262 --> 00:14:50,848 overseeing Roy's toy rollout, 317 00:14:50,848 --> 00:14:53,934 but with Walt's emphasis on quality, 318 00:14:55,561 --> 00:14:57,438 giving Walt the assurance he needs 319 00:14:57,438 --> 00:15:00,941 to pursue his next big creative swing, 320 00:15:01,692 --> 00:15:02,985 Technicolor. 321 00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:05,237 - But Technicolor is incredibly expensive. 322 00:15:05,237 --> 00:15:06,989 It's a big, big risk. 323 00:15:07,531 --> 00:15:08,991 - [Narrator] Making color cartoons 324 00:15:08,991 --> 00:15:11,201 will triple Disney's lab fees 325 00:15:11,201 --> 00:15:13,287 and raise production costs, 326 00:15:13,287 --> 00:15:16,165 putting even more pressure on Disney merchandising 327 00:15:16,165 --> 00:15:19,043 to bring in badly needed cash. 328 00:15:19,543 --> 00:15:21,420 - Roy Disney was under so much duress, 329 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:23,422 because his brother was spending so much money. 330 00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:26,467 Merchandise was sort of a lifesaver for the company. 331 00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:29,511 - You gotta remember, those early opportunities 332 00:15:29,511 --> 00:15:32,932 were keeping the studio afloat financially. 333 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:35,476 [tense music] 334 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:38,938 - But Kay Kamen was fully aware 335 00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:42,733 that Walt was expecting him to maintain quality. 336 00:15:42,733 --> 00:15:43,901 - He took a good look 337 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:46,737 at what kinds of products were being made, 338 00:15:46,737 --> 00:15:47,947 what was their quality, 339 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:51,659 and how did it fit in with the values of the company. 340 00:15:51,659 --> 00:15:53,494 - [Vendor] Evening, sir. 341 00:15:56,497 --> 00:15:59,416 - You got a license for all this Mickey stuff? 342 00:15:59,416 --> 00:16:01,919 [tense music] 343 00:16:12,096 --> 00:16:13,555 - [Vendor] Whoa, buddy. 344 00:16:13,555 --> 00:16:16,266 - He goes to all of the merchandising vendors 345 00:16:16,266 --> 00:16:20,646 who are making substandard products and he cleans house. 346 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:22,606 - My boss is gonna have words with you. 347 00:16:22,606 --> 00:16:25,776 - So that he can start again with top quality merchandise. 348 00:16:25,776 --> 00:16:28,404 - Tell him to call me. 349 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:32,282 Evening. 350 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:35,077 - But put yourself in Roy Disney's shoes. 351 00:16:35,077 --> 00:16:37,496 You're struggling, you need money. 352 00:16:37,496 --> 00:16:38,914 They had money coming in. 353 00:16:38,914 --> 00:16:43,085 Kay Kamen comes in and turns off the stream. 354 00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:49,675 [gentle music] 355 00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:54,221 - [Narrator] Kay Kamen, Disney's new head of merchandising, 356 00:16:54,221 --> 00:16:56,140 must now find a happy medium 357 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:59,601 between the competing interests of the Disney brothers. 358 00:16:59,601 --> 00:17:02,521 - How do you serve two masters? 359 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:06,108 - He needs to balance Walt's protectiveness of Mickey Mouse 360 00:17:06,108 --> 00:17:10,112 as well as Roy's need to turn a profit. 361 00:17:10,112 --> 00:17:12,698 And he was feeling the tension of that. 362 00:17:13,282 --> 00:17:15,075 - At the time that Kamen joined the company, 363 00:17:15,075 --> 00:17:17,244 there was a limited number of options 364 00:17:17,244 --> 00:17:19,747 for how merchandise was used. 365 00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:21,832 - Movie studios were thinking small. 366 00:17:21,832 --> 00:17:24,209 They were thinking, "Oh, we'll make a doll. 367 00:17:24,209 --> 00:17:26,420 We'll make a game of the thing." 368 00:17:26,420 --> 00:17:27,379 - It was very derivative. 369 00:17:27,379 --> 00:17:29,339 You had the character, you have a doll. 370 00:17:29,339 --> 00:17:33,552 - He needs a big, bold, brand new move. 371 00:17:33,552 --> 00:17:36,096 [inspiring music] 372 00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:51,236 - And then, Kay Kamen had a vision 373 00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:55,949 for how to brand Mickey Mouse into something so much more 374 00:17:55,949 --> 00:17:58,035 than just a toy for kids. 375 00:18:00,412 --> 00:18:02,331 [dramatic music] 376 00:18:02,331 --> 00:18:05,042 - So Mickey Mouse is the first animated character 377 00:18:05,042 --> 00:18:07,252 to adorn a licensed lunchbox. 378 00:18:07,252 --> 00:18:09,546 Before that, we would think of kid's lunchbox 379 00:18:09,546 --> 00:18:12,758 and it would be something like a plain, black, functional item. 380 00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:14,134 Now, this became something 381 00:18:14,134 --> 00:18:16,553 that you would buy specifically for your child 382 00:18:16,553 --> 00:18:18,931 because they're a fan of Mickey. 383 00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:20,015 - Kamen's big idea 384 00:18:20,015 --> 00:18:22,476 is that you can put Mickey Mouse anywhere. 385 00:18:22,476 --> 00:18:24,728 - Merchandising could be anything. 386 00:18:24,728 --> 00:18:26,105 It could be everything. 387 00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:28,190 [uplifting music] 388 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:31,652 - [Narrator] Kamen embarks on an unprecedented expansion 389 00:18:31,652 --> 00:18:33,487 of movie merchandise, 390 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,491 turning products that have never been branded before 391 00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:39,868 into billboards for Mickey Mouse. 392 00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:43,163 - The idea of taking a beloved character 393 00:18:43,163 --> 00:18:46,250 and putting it on something that wasn't a toy, 394 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:49,419 this was completely novel. 395 00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:56,176 - [Narrator] Mickey Mouse's image is so powerful, 396 00:18:56,176 --> 00:18:59,888 it launches smaller brands into the big time. 397 00:18:59,888 --> 00:19:02,391 - The Hall brothers run the Hallmark company 398 00:19:02,391 --> 00:19:05,060 and they sign their first ever licensing deal 399 00:19:05,060 --> 00:19:08,147 to put Disney characters on their greeting cards, 400 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,774 which turns Hallmark into the juggernaut brand 401 00:19:10,774 --> 00:19:11,859 that it is today. 402 00:19:11,859 --> 00:19:13,861 - [Narrator] And even rescue struggling companies 403 00:19:13,861 --> 00:19:16,780 from financial collapse during the depression, 404 00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:20,534 like Lionel Trains and Ingersoll Watches. 405 00:19:21,076 --> 00:19:22,828 - So the Ingersoll Watch Company, 406 00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:25,706 part of the Depression, really about to go broke, 407 00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:29,543 start manufacturing a new Mickey Mouse watch, 408 00:19:29,543 --> 00:19:31,503 and unbelievably popular. 409 00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:35,799 - By 1935, some 2.5 million Mickey Mouse wrist watches 410 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,009 had been sold. 411 00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:41,722 - And to this day, we all wear Mickey Mouse watches. 412 00:19:43,765 --> 00:19:46,310 - [Narrator] Kamen proves that if you can sell it, 413 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:47,936 Mickey can adorn it. 414 00:19:47,936 --> 00:19:50,898 Now, he has an even bolder idea: 415 00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:53,859 to draw audiences into a whole new market 416 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:58,280 and revolutionize one of America's largest industries. 417 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,741 [pensive music] 418 00:20:00,741 --> 00:20:02,326 - This way, Mrs. Post, 419 00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:05,078 we're set up for you in the sound stage. 420 00:20:05,954 --> 00:20:07,247 - Marjorie Merriweather Post 421 00:20:07,247 --> 00:20:09,583 was the head of General Foods in the 1930s 422 00:20:09,583 --> 00:20:12,294 and she's one of the most powerful and wealthy women 423 00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:13,879 in America at that time. 424 00:20:13,879 --> 00:20:16,006 - General Foods is a huge conglomerate. 425 00:20:16,006 --> 00:20:18,508 They make everything from Maxwell House Coffee 426 00:20:18,508 --> 00:20:20,969 to Jello, and breakfast cereal, 427 00:20:20,969 --> 00:20:22,346 Post Toasties breakfast cereal, 428 00:20:22,346 --> 00:20:24,765 one of the biggest brands in America. 429 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,686 [gentle music] 430 00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:35,317 - Today's cereal is marketed a lot 431 00:20:35,317 --> 00:20:37,486 as, like, a kids fun product. 432 00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:40,656 In the 1930s, that was not the case. 433 00:20:41,406 --> 00:20:43,867 - Breakfast cereal is a staple of the American diet, 434 00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:46,745 but mostly for adults and mostly is a health food. 435 00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:48,497 - It's cheap, it's shelf stable. 436 00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,791 You can feed people for a long period of time 437 00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:52,125 for not a lot of money. 438 00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:54,294 It's a depression-proof food. 439 00:20:54,294 --> 00:20:57,631 - Kids are not seen as the target demographic for cereal, 440 00:20:57,631 --> 00:21:00,259 nor did they have any reason to be excited about eating it. 441 00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,511 - Marjorie Post is in a real good position. 442 00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:05,138 She doesn't need any help. 443 00:21:05,138 --> 00:21:09,935 And it's kind of the brilliant audacity of Kay Kamen 444 00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:12,062 to say, "You could be making money 445 00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:14,815 selling this food to kids." 446 00:21:15,691 --> 00:21:19,861 - In 1933, marketing breakfast cereal to kids 447 00:21:19,861 --> 00:21:20,946 would seem ridiculous. 448 00:21:20,946 --> 00:21:23,657 You market to people who buy the food, that's mom and dad. 449 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:24,825 The kids don't have any input 450 00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,785 on what goes on the kitchen table. 451 00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:31,164 - Kay Kamen realizes that this is an untapped market. 452 00:21:33,041 --> 00:21:35,585 [gentle music] 453 00:21:45,178 --> 00:21:50,017 - When Kamen added Mickey Mouse onto this box, 454 00:21:50,726 --> 00:21:54,563 cereal suddenly became not just this bland breakfast food, 455 00:21:54,563 --> 00:21:57,232 but a form of entertainment for children. 456 00:21:57,232 --> 00:21:59,735 [inpsiring music] 457 00:22:02,029 --> 00:22:03,989 - [Narrator] Post agrees to pay Disney 458 00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:06,908 an unheard of $1.5 million 459 00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:10,829 to license Mickey and friends for her cereal boxes. 460 00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:12,289 The deal sets the stage 461 00:22:12,289 --> 00:22:15,959 for today's $40 billion cereal industry. 462 00:22:15,959 --> 00:22:18,170 - This is the first of what we know today. 463 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:19,421 When you walk down the aisles 464 00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:22,007 and there's the captain, and there's the count. 465 00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:23,050 And as I say that, 466 00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:24,843 we all know what those brands are, right? 467 00:22:24,843 --> 00:22:26,345 The tiger, you know. 468 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:28,138 Where'd that all come from? 469 00:22:28,138 --> 00:22:29,723 The mouse. 470 00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:32,267 - [Narrator] Even as he floods the market, 471 00:22:32,267 --> 00:22:37,022 Kamen keeps his promise to Walt to prioritize high quality 472 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:39,900 and a faithful depiction of Mickey Mouse. 473 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:42,861 - Mickey has so much influence throughout the world 474 00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:45,530 that he has to be careful what he endorses. 475 00:22:45,530 --> 00:22:47,574 - Walt's got to approve the merchandise 476 00:22:47,574 --> 00:22:51,870 so his perfectionism and his quality control could be there. 477 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:53,705 - Kamen controlled who got the license, 478 00:22:53,705 --> 00:22:56,166 he controlled the quality of the merchandise, 479 00:22:56,166 --> 00:22:58,585 and then it was his own in-house artists 480 00:22:58,585 --> 00:23:01,129 that designed all of the artwork. 481 00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:03,757 - Kay Kamen made everything a standard. 482 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:07,135 The colors, the style, the ears. 483 00:23:07,135 --> 00:23:09,888 So the thing that's tying it all together 484 00:23:09,888 --> 00:23:13,183 is the Disney look, the Disney feel, 485 00:23:13,183 --> 00:23:17,521 and that is what really took the Disney merchandising side 486 00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:18,730 over the top. 487 00:23:18,730 --> 00:23:21,358 - [Narrator] Within four years of Kamen's hiring, 488 00:23:21,358 --> 00:23:25,487 Disney licensing explodes by 10,000% 489 00:23:25,487 --> 00:23:28,365 and Disney merchandise becomes more lucrative 490 00:23:28,365 --> 00:23:30,742 than the cartoons themselves. 491 00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,580 [pensive music] 492 00:23:37,874 --> 00:23:41,002 Now, with Kamen filling the company's coffers, 493 00:23:41,002 --> 00:23:44,965 Walt embarks on his most audacious plan yet. 494 00:23:44,965 --> 00:23:47,259 - He's gonna do the very first 495 00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:50,220 animated, full-length feature film, 496 00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:51,763 "Snow White." 497 00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:53,473 - [Narrator] If successful, 498 00:23:53,473 --> 00:23:55,559 "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves" 499 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:57,936 will propel animation forward 500 00:23:57,936 --> 00:24:00,480 and open the door to a new generation 501 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,066 of marketable Disney characters. 502 00:24:04,234 --> 00:24:06,236 But by September 1937, 503 00:24:06,236 --> 00:24:09,865 the project is nearing financial disaster. 504 00:24:09,865 --> 00:24:11,700 - "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" 505 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:13,702 will cost $1.5 million 506 00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,246 for the studio to make in the 1930s, 507 00:24:16,246 --> 00:24:20,417 which was $1.5 million that they simply did not have. 508 00:24:20,417 --> 00:24:24,421 - "Snow White" is a financial money pit, 509 00:24:24,421 --> 00:24:30,802 and so in this moment, Kay Kamen has to be a savior. 510 00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:33,138 [birds chirping] 511 00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:38,518 - Coffee? 512 00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:39,895 - No, thank you. 513 00:24:39,895 --> 00:24:42,814 - Kamen was under huge financial pressures at that time 514 00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:45,901 because Walt's spending was out of control. 515 00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:48,403 [pensive music] 516 00:24:52,741 --> 00:24:55,827 - [Kay] So what do you think of the new Mickey samples? 517 00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:58,121 - My daughter's been playing with them, 518 00:24:58,121 --> 00:25:00,457 but you know what she really loves? 519 00:25:00,457 --> 00:25:02,125 That new princess. 520 00:25:03,543 --> 00:25:06,129 Mabel, come bring that figure here. 521 00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:08,673 [pensive music] 522 00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:16,223 - Oh, I'm sorry. 523 00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:18,600 They shouldn't have sent that with the samples. 524 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,230 That's a prototype for a future project. 525 00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:26,983 It's not for sale. 526 00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:28,026 - Up to this point, 527 00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:30,403 any kind of merchandising had followed the movie. 528 00:25:30,403 --> 00:25:32,948 You put the movie out and then you sold products, 529 00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:34,241 because people like the movie. 530 00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:35,992 it's always been about extracting value 531 00:25:35,992 --> 00:25:38,411 out of something that already exists. 532 00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:40,539 - I'm very sorry, sweetheart, 533 00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:43,083 but I'm gonna have to take that back with me. 534 00:25:43,083 --> 00:25:45,085 - No, it's mine. 535 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,172 - Listen, your daddy can buy you one 536 00:25:49,172 --> 00:25:51,466 when the movie comes out. 537 00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:54,261 - There's gonna be a movie about her? 538 00:25:55,804 --> 00:25:58,390 [suspenseful music] 539 00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:01,434 - And then Kay Kamen has an idea 540 00:26:01,434 --> 00:26:05,522 that will turn the movie merchandising world on its head. 541 00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:09,401 - You know what? 542 00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:11,611 She can keep it. 543 00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:13,822 [dramatic music] 544 00:26:13,822 --> 00:26:14,864 - This is the big bang. 545 00:26:14,864 --> 00:26:17,867 This is the moment that changes marketing as we know it 546 00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:19,244 and helps to make "Snow White" 547 00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:23,248 the single most successful movie of all time. 548 00:26:23,707 --> 00:26:26,626 - Would you like to know her name? 549 00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:29,087 It's Snow White. 550 00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:37,053 - [Narrator] On December 21st, 1937, 551 00:26:37,053 --> 00:26:39,180 Walt Disney's moonshot production 552 00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:41,683 of "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves", 553 00:26:41,683 --> 00:26:44,561 the first ever animated feature film, 554 00:26:44,561 --> 00:26:46,479 premieres in Los Angeles. 555 00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:49,983 - The premier of "Snow White" was this beautiful thing. 556 00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:51,276 Everyone was wearing their tuxes 557 00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:53,028 and their glitz and their glams. 558 00:26:53,028 --> 00:26:54,070 Shirley Temple was there. 559 00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:57,616 And boy, oh, boy, was this movie a hit. 560 00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:00,201 As soon as it got in front of audiences, 561 00:27:00,201 --> 00:27:02,787 we could not get enough. 562 00:27:03,496 --> 00:27:06,458 - [Narrator] "Snow White" is Walt Disney's masterpiece, 563 00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:11,171 but behind the scenes, "Snow White's" record smashing success 564 00:27:11,171 --> 00:27:13,715 is Kay Kamen's crowning achievement. 565 00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:16,468 - Would you like to know her name? 566 00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:18,970 It's Snow White. 567 00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:22,015 - Kay Kamen recognized, 568 00:27:22,015 --> 00:27:24,768 "Wait a minute, we can use this merchandise 569 00:27:24,768 --> 00:27:27,854 to warm our audiences up to the story 570 00:27:27,854 --> 00:27:30,023 and build anticipation." 571 00:27:30,023 --> 00:27:32,817 - His genius leap is that he puts the product out 572 00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:34,819 before the movie comes out. 573 00:27:34,819 --> 00:27:36,821 - This little fellow is Bashful. 574 00:27:36,821 --> 00:27:39,240 He's secretly in love with Snow White. 575 00:27:39,699 --> 00:27:43,244 - It's a promotional campaign through these products. 576 00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:44,412 The market was flooded 577 00:27:44,412 --> 00:27:47,916 with more than 2,000 products for "Snow White". 578 00:27:47,916 --> 00:27:49,918 There was all manner of clothing. 579 00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:52,837 There was dresses, there was jewelry, 580 00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:55,090 and it was hugely successful. 581 00:27:55,548 --> 00:27:57,842 - They were making "Snow White" costumes 582 00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:02,013 and here we have some of the beginnings of cosplay, 583 00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:03,098 which by the 21st century, 584 00:28:03,139 --> 00:28:06,559 is also going to be an important pop cultural phenomenon 585 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,270 that Disney is gonna play a key role in. 586 00:28:09,854 --> 00:28:11,898 - [Narrator] And as the film's run continues, 587 00:28:11,898 --> 00:28:16,027 Kamen's formula creates a perpetual engine of profit. 588 00:28:16,027 --> 00:28:19,197 - You make some merchandise, people get hyped for the movie, 589 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:22,575 the movie's a hit, you make more merchandise. 590 00:28:22,575 --> 00:28:23,785 - He created this feedback loop 591 00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:26,996 of the audience wanting to experience that film 592 00:28:26,996 --> 00:28:29,708 over and over again in different ways. 593 00:28:30,333 --> 00:28:32,585 - The idea that merchandise would be on the shelves 594 00:28:32,585 --> 00:28:35,296 for weeks, or in some cases months, 595 00:28:35,296 --> 00:28:37,799 before that film release, 596 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,384 this had never been done. 597 00:28:39,384 --> 00:28:42,470 It could have failed spectacularly. 598 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:43,638 What it did instead, 599 00:28:43,638 --> 00:28:47,934 was to rewrite how motion picture merchandising was done 600 00:28:47,934 --> 00:28:50,854 and how it has been done ever since. 601 00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:54,441 - Having merchandise based on a movie 602 00:28:54,441 --> 00:28:56,151 in the stores when the movie comes out, 603 00:28:56,151 --> 00:29:00,321 is commonplace now, with films such as "Star Wars" 604 00:29:00,321 --> 00:29:01,906 and the Marvel films, 605 00:29:01,906 --> 00:29:04,200 and that's all because of Kay Kamen. 606 00:29:04,659 --> 00:29:06,077 - [Narrator] Kamen's marketing magic 607 00:29:06,077 --> 00:29:07,829 powers the Walt Disney Studio 608 00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:09,622 with a steady flow of income 609 00:29:09,622 --> 00:29:12,792 through the turbulence of the war years. 610 00:29:12,792 --> 00:29:16,045 - In the '40s, Disney had a lot of ups and downs 611 00:29:16,045 --> 00:29:19,299 and the merchandising aspect was always there for the company 612 00:29:19,299 --> 00:29:22,594 and kept things afloat when things were rough. 613 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:24,179 - And it wasn't just Mickey Mouse, 614 00:29:24,179 --> 00:29:25,221 it was Donald Duck, 615 00:29:25,221 --> 00:29:28,057 it was Goofy, "Pinocchio" characters, "Bambi" characters. 616 00:29:28,057 --> 00:29:32,103 And so being able to tap into that 617 00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:36,316 allowed Walt to keep growing and expanding 618 00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,109 his artistic vision. 619 00:29:39,068 --> 00:29:41,696 [jazzy piano music] 620 00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:47,702 [patrons laughing] 621 00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:50,622 - In the fall of 1949, 622 00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:51,831 Kay Kamen and his wife Katie 623 00:29:51,831 --> 00:29:54,125 went to Paris to talk to licensees. 624 00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:55,460 Roy was also there on business 625 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:58,171 and Walt was in England filming "Treasure Island". 626 00:29:58,171 --> 00:30:03,426 - Hey, Kamen, you got any more money in that jacket for this? 627 00:30:03,426 --> 00:30:05,804 [laughing] 628 00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:09,808 - [Narrator] 17 years after joining Disney, 629 00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:14,729 Kamen is selling a record $100 million in licensed goods. 630 00:30:14,729 --> 00:30:16,272 - Cheers. - [Walt] Ah, cheers. 631 00:30:16,272 --> 00:30:17,357 [glasses clinking] 632 00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:19,818 - He came along at exactly the right time 633 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:23,780 and had the same vision that Walt had. 634 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:27,992 He was the Walt Disney of Disney merchandise. 635 00:30:28,451 --> 00:30:30,161 - [Narrator] What none of the men know 636 00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:32,580 is that this is a farewell dinner. 637 00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:36,125 - Mm, gentlemen, I better hit the road. 638 00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:39,128 The wife wants to see the Eiffel Tower one last time 639 00:30:39,128 --> 00:30:40,797 before we head home. 640 00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:44,217 I'll see you stateside. 641 00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:46,719 - Can't wait. - Safe travels. 642 00:30:50,431 --> 00:30:51,891 One more? - I'm good. 643 00:30:51,891 --> 00:30:56,855 - Kamen never really got to see how far the Disney brand went. 644 00:30:59,065 --> 00:31:00,692 - When Kay and Katie came home, 645 00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:03,486 their plane hit a mountain off the Azores 646 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:07,907 and the plane crash killed all 48 people aboard. 647 00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:12,245 It was a tragic, tragic ending to Kay Kamen's life. 648 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:17,625 And Walt and Roy were just devastated by Kamen's passing. 649 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,922 - It really was Kay Kamen that was responsible 650 00:31:22,922 --> 00:31:26,426 for making merchandise one of the tent poles 651 00:31:26,426 --> 00:31:28,011 of Disney as a brand. 652 00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:33,558 And Roy figures, "Okay, I guess we have to fill his shoes." 653 00:31:35,101 --> 00:31:36,227 - I've arranged meetings 654 00:31:36,227 --> 00:31:39,105 with the five biggest marketing firms in the country. 655 00:31:39,105 --> 00:31:40,815 We'd better move quickly. 656 00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:43,985 - But Walt knows nobody, not even Roy Disney, 657 00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:48,031 was as adept at bringing money into the Disney door. 658 00:31:48,031 --> 00:31:50,074 Kay Kamen was irreplaceable. 659 00:31:50,074 --> 00:31:52,201 [suspenseful music] 660 00:31:52,201 --> 00:31:54,495 - Cancel all the meetings, Roy. 661 00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:02,211 - [Narrator] Without Kay Kamen, 662 00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:06,591 money from Disney merchandising begins to plateau. 663 00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:07,675 - So they have a problem. 664 00:32:07,675 --> 00:32:09,802 Kay Kamen truly changed the game 665 00:32:09,802 --> 00:32:14,724 and merchandise has gone from a bit of a crutch, 666 00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:16,267 to a tent pole. 667 00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:18,519 They don't want merchandising, 668 00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:20,188 they absolutely needed it. 669 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:22,607 And Kay Kamen was really one of a kind. 670 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:25,693 No one can just step into his shoes. 671 00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:29,155 - Certainly, Disney merchandising went on, 672 00:32:29,155 --> 00:32:30,156 no question. 673 00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:31,783 And Roy had a bigger role to play, 674 00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:34,702 because somebody had to fill that void. 675 00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,205 - [Narrator] Adding to Roy's woes 676 00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:41,250 is Walt's newest, most expensive dream yet. 677 00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:44,003 - Now he's giving us a theme park, 678 00:32:44,003 --> 00:32:46,047 a park that tells stories. 679 00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:47,423 Disneyland. 680 00:32:47,423 --> 00:32:53,221 - Disneyland is gonna be 12 times the cost of "Snow White". 681 00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,181 - [Narrator] Needing to tap new sources 682 00:32:55,181 --> 00:32:57,725 of merchandising and production revenue, 683 00:32:57,725 --> 00:33:00,103 [magical music] 684 00:33:00,603 --> 00:33:03,564 the Disneys strike a deal with the ABC network 685 00:33:03,564 --> 00:33:05,316 to create a weekly TV show. 686 00:33:05,316 --> 00:33:08,403 - [Announcer] Walt Disney's Disneyland. 687 00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:09,737 - [Narrator] In exchange for help 688 00:33:09,737 --> 00:33:12,115 with funding the park's construction. 689 00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:15,410 - And part of that TV show is gonna be sort of this homage 690 00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:18,454 to the American West and American folk heroes. 691 00:33:18,454 --> 00:33:20,999 [inspiring music] 692 00:33:22,125 --> 00:33:24,669 - [Director] Davy Crockett, scene 12, take one. 693 00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:26,713 Mark, action. 694 00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:29,257 [suspenseful music] 695 00:33:33,928 --> 00:33:35,179 Cut. 696 00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:38,558 - Norman. 697 00:33:40,435 --> 00:33:42,437 The shot feels flat. 698 00:33:42,979 --> 00:33:44,355 - [Narrator] With his TV series, 699 00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:48,026 Walt is once again raising the creative bar. 700 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:51,779 - Walt does his shoots like he was making a movie, 701 00:33:51,779 --> 00:33:53,698 but he's making a television show. 702 00:33:53,698 --> 00:33:56,325 He's gonna film things on location. 703 00:33:56,325 --> 00:33:57,410 That's a huge departure 704 00:33:57,410 --> 00:34:00,455 from what people had been used to at the time. 705 00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:03,875 In its first iteration, 706 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:06,210 TV was basically an outgrowth of radio. 707 00:34:06,210 --> 00:34:08,463 You had basically live programs 708 00:34:08,463 --> 00:34:10,214 in front of studio audiences. 709 00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:13,134 - "Ed Sullivan", "Jackie Gleason", "I love Lucy". 710 00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:16,471 The shows were shot on exactly the same set, 711 00:34:16,471 --> 00:34:17,805 exactly the same stage, 712 00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:20,266 week after week, or day after day. 713 00:34:20,266 --> 00:34:22,268 - Television was not about quality, 714 00:34:22,268 --> 00:34:24,812 television was about cheapness. 715 00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:26,856 Not with Walt Disney. 716 00:34:26,856 --> 00:34:28,024 - Let's put the camera on a track 717 00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:31,235 and dolly along with Crockett as he walks. 718 00:34:31,694 --> 00:34:34,238 - You wanna shoot the whole sequence again? 719 00:34:34,238 --> 00:34:35,656 That'll put us into overtime. 720 00:34:35,656 --> 00:34:36,824 - Don't worry about that. 721 00:34:36,824 --> 00:34:39,952 I want to feel like we're in the woods with him. 722 00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:44,332 - The "Davy Crockett" show has a budget 723 00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:47,335 that Walt would exceed by about double, 724 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,337 and it's not just double 725 00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:51,172 what is budgeted for "Davy Crockett", 726 00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:53,257 it's more than double than what's being spent 727 00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:57,136 on any other television episodes at the time. 728 00:34:57,136 --> 00:35:01,057 - "I love Lucy" was spending 50,000 on an episode. 729 00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:03,893 For three episodes of "Davy Crockett", 730 00:35:03,893 --> 00:35:07,396 Walt is spending 700,000. 731 00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:12,026 [pensive music] 732 00:35:14,445 --> 00:35:15,905 The problem is this: 733 00:35:15,905 --> 00:35:20,451 Walt and Roy don't know how to monetize TV yet. 734 00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:23,913 How do you see a return on that investment? 735 00:35:24,997 --> 00:35:26,958 - Walt, Walt! 736 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,502 [suspenseful music] 737 00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:35,258 We need to talk about this Crockett show. 738 00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:38,886 - Kay Kamen was gone and television's a whole new market, 739 00:35:38,886 --> 00:35:41,222 and the studio didn't have his vision 740 00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:45,059 to figure out, what's gonna be the merchandise? 741 00:35:45,059 --> 00:35:46,435 Like, what are you gonna imagine 742 00:35:46,435 --> 00:35:48,896 children are gonna be screaming for? 743 00:35:49,355 --> 00:35:51,482 - We're hundreds of thousands in the hole, Walt. 744 00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:53,359 If you wanna make movies, stick to making movies. 745 00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:55,319 - Leave the creative decisions to me, Rory. 746 00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,446 - It's bigger than the creative, Walt. 747 00:35:57,446 --> 00:35:59,615 Please, open your eyes. 748 00:35:59,615 --> 00:36:00,950 The studio is bleeding cash. 749 00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:03,744 We're building a theme park for God's sakes. 750 00:36:04,203 --> 00:36:06,164 Something needs to start making money around here 751 00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:08,291 or we won't be making anything. 752 00:36:09,625 --> 00:36:12,336 - Roy is apoplectic. 753 00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:15,214 You are spending the budget of movies 754 00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:17,425 to make an episode of television. 755 00:36:17,425 --> 00:36:20,344 We are going to lose our shirts. 756 00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:24,640 Disney doesn't just need money. 757 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,767 They need to find it quickly. 758 00:36:33,149 --> 00:36:33,858 - Turn! 759 00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:35,234 - [Narrator] On December 15th, 1954, 760 00:36:35,234 --> 00:36:37,612 the first episode of Disney's "Davy Crockett" 761 00:36:37,612 --> 00:36:41,032 three-part mini series premieres on ABC. 762 00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:46,120 40 million viewers, about one in four Americans, tune in. 763 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,663 - People of the 1950s, 764 00:36:47,663 --> 00:36:50,166 they were getting this A-class content, 765 00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:53,252 which was worthy of being shown in a cinema, 766 00:36:53,252 --> 00:36:54,837 in their living room. 767 00:36:54,837 --> 00:36:56,464 - The thing is, once again, 768 00:36:56,464 --> 00:37:00,218 much like the runaway budget of "Snow White", 769 00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:02,261 Walt kinda loses his mind 770 00:37:02,261 --> 00:37:05,473 when it comes to his budgets for television. 771 00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:13,814 - Look at the numbers. 772 00:37:13,814 --> 00:37:16,234 They don't lie. - It's not that bad, Roy. 773 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:19,028 - Not that bad? Are you looking at what I'm looking at? 774 00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:19,904 - It's a good show. 775 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:22,323 - If you're looking at "Davy Crockett" 776 00:37:22,323 --> 00:37:24,742 from a television return standpoint, 777 00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:28,955 Walt has yet again dug his studio into a hole. 778 00:37:28,955 --> 00:37:31,499 [suspenseful music] 779 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:33,459 - [Secretary] Sorry to interrupt. 780 00:37:33,459 --> 00:37:36,587 These calls have been coming in all morning. 781 00:37:36,587 --> 00:37:37,964 - Thank you. 782 00:37:40,174 --> 00:37:44,303 From Wanamaker's department store in Philadelphia. 783 00:37:44,303 --> 00:37:47,348 Something about fur hats? 784 00:37:49,684 --> 00:37:51,435 - Davy Crockett. 785 00:37:52,186 --> 00:37:53,354 What do they want? 786 00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:57,108 - They wanna know if we have raccoon hats they can sell. 787 00:37:57,108 --> 00:38:00,403 Apparently, they have customers clamoring for them. 788 00:38:01,237 --> 00:38:03,698 Marshall Fields in Chicago, 789 00:38:04,657 --> 00:38:07,201 Neiman Marcus in Texas, 790 00:38:08,619 --> 00:38:10,454 Macy's in New York. 791 00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:12,373 Everybody wants these hats. 792 00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:16,502 - Because the whole country's in love with Davy Crockett. 793 00:38:18,546 --> 00:38:21,257 - "Davy Crockett" turned out to be much bigger 794 00:38:21,257 --> 00:38:22,633 than the studio had anticipated, 795 00:38:22,633 --> 00:38:26,846 because now you had the added medium of television. 796 00:38:26,846 --> 00:38:29,849 - Movies had a slower distribution, 797 00:38:29,849 --> 00:38:32,685 so its fandom sort of moved in waves. 798 00:38:32,685 --> 00:38:34,937 Whereas with television, it was instantaneous. 799 00:38:34,937 --> 00:38:36,981 Everybody went home, watched "Davy Crockett". 800 00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:41,110 Everybody caught fever that night at the exact same moment. 801 00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:44,363 - And that was an entirely new phenomenon 802 00:38:44,363 --> 00:38:47,074 that Disney was not prepared for. 803 00:38:48,367 --> 00:38:51,120 - And suddenly, you have this amazing character with his hat 804 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,788 and every kid in America wants one. 805 00:38:52,788 --> 00:38:55,458 - [Narrator] Thanks to years of watching Kay Kamen 806 00:38:55,458 --> 00:38:57,585 work his merchandising magic, 807 00:38:57,585 --> 00:39:01,005 the Disneys recognized the opportunity at hand. 808 00:39:01,005 --> 00:39:03,132 - He realized the power of merchandising 809 00:39:03,132 --> 00:39:06,052 could mingle into every corner of what he was doing. 810 00:39:06,052 --> 00:39:08,554 It didn't just have to be Mickey Mouse's face. 811 00:39:08,554 --> 00:39:10,765 I can have really, really grounded tales 812 00:39:10,765 --> 00:39:13,267 and people still want a piece of that. 813 00:39:14,268 --> 00:39:17,938 - [Narrator] Disney begins selling raccoon skin caps 814 00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:21,192 as official, licensed "Crockett" merchandise. 815 00:39:23,652 --> 00:39:26,864 - Over 5,000 caps were being sold every day. 816 00:39:26,864 --> 00:39:31,994 - The demand for "Davy Crockett" caps became so extreme 817 00:39:31,994 --> 00:39:33,871 that raccoon skins 818 00:39:33,871 --> 00:39:37,041 literally just disappeared off of the market. 819 00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:39,585 - This was the first time ever 820 00:39:39,585 --> 00:39:43,381 that something on television made people go out 821 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:47,802 and buy something to capture the magic of TV. 822 00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:51,806 - If you read the newspapers from 1954 at Christmastime, 823 00:39:51,806 --> 00:39:54,850 every single letter that a child writes in to Santa 824 00:39:54,850 --> 00:39:57,395 is asking for a Davy Crockett cap. 825 00:39:57,395 --> 00:40:01,232 The entire country is collectively playacting 826 00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:03,025 as Davy Crockett. 827 00:40:03,526 --> 00:40:05,152 - [Narrator] And the company finds other ways 828 00:40:05,152 --> 00:40:07,196 to leverage the "Crockett" property, 829 00:40:07,196 --> 00:40:09,156 making millions off of recordings 830 00:40:09,156 --> 00:40:11,367 of the "Davy Crockett" theme song, 831 00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:14,745 promotional tours of its star, Fess Parker, 832 00:40:14,745 --> 00:40:17,581 and a ticketed re-release of the series 833 00:40:17,581 --> 00:40:21,335 as a full length feature in movie theaters. 834 00:40:21,335 --> 00:40:22,628 - It eclipsed anything that 835 00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:24,755 had come before in pop culture. 836 00:40:24,755 --> 00:40:29,260 - "Davy Crockett" amounts to what we can understand 837 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:35,266 to be the first real popular, cultural craze. 838 00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:37,726 [gentle music] 839 00:40:39,603 --> 00:40:41,689 - [Narrator] Crockett's phenomenal success 840 00:40:41,689 --> 00:40:44,733 has awakened something in Walt Disney. 841 00:40:45,901 --> 00:40:49,447 - In the early years, he didn't necessarily care 842 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:54,118 about creating this industry of merch around his films. 843 00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:57,163 - He sees the potential of merchandise 844 00:40:57,163 --> 00:40:59,790 as so much more than something to play with. 845 00:40:59,790 --> 00:41:02,209 - For Walt, it still wasn't about the money, 846 00:41:02,209 --> 00:41:04,086 it was about the new possibilities 847 00:41:04,086 --> 00:41:05,254 that came out of it. 848 00:41:05,254 --> 00:41:06,672 - Merchandise can immerse people 849 00:41:06,672 --> 00:41:10,468 in the kind of rich experience that they know they'll get 850 00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:12,178 when they go to see a Disney movie 851 00:41:12,178 --> 00:41:14,346 or when they walk into a Disney park. 852 00:41:14,346 --> 00:41:16,474 - It's really this moment where Walt realizes 853 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:19,852 the absolutely unique power his brand has, 854 00:41:19,852 --> 00:41:22,438 'cause no one else has entertainment 855 00:41:22,438 --> 00:41:24,648 cornered in every direction. 856 00:41:24,648 --> 00:41:27,860 - He sees the different components of the company 857 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:29,570 working with each other. 858 00:41:29,570 --> 00:41:32,781 Now you have a character who can be on a TV show 859 00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:35,284 and in a film, and an action figure, 860 00:41:35,284 --> 00:41:38,537 and you can meet them in person at the Disney parks. 861 00:41:38,537 --> 00:41:41,916 And there's really no end to what you can do 862 00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:43,751 with this singular character. 863 00:41:43,751 --> 00:41:47,922 - In creating all these Disney productions and experiences, 864 00:41:47,922 --> 00:41:50,716 people could live in a Disney world. 865 00:41:50,716 --> 00:41:52,426 [inspiring music] 866 00:41:52,426 --> 00:41:55,346 - [Narrator] Walt's concept will become known in the future 867 00:41:55,346 --> 00:41:56,931 as a synergy map, 868 00:41:56,931 --> 00:42:01,352 a plan for synchronizing and maximizing success. 869 00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:03,729 - Disney finds a way to synergistically touch 870 00:42:03,729 --> 00:42:06,482 every part of Americans' lives, 871 00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:10,528 and it becomes this incredible juggernaut. 872 00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:13,572 - [Narrator] Disney's model will spark a global industry 873 00:42:13,572 --> 00:42:15,658 of licensed characters. 874 00:42:15,658 --> 00:42:18,244 - George Lucas with the "Star Wars" films, 875 00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:19,828 Mattel with Barbie, 876 00:42:19,828 --> 00:42:21,830 Nintendo with its products. 877 00:42:21,830 --> 00:42:24,792 Now most companies want to emulate Disney, 878 00:42:24,792 --> 00:42:26,252 whether they'll say so or not. 879 00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:30,172 - [Narrator] But Disney remains the world's leading licenser 880 00:42:30,172 --> 00:42:34,552 with 60 billion per year in global sales. 881 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:36,136 - Nowadays, where we can find 882 00:42:36,136 --> 00:42:37,888 our favorite movie or movie characters 883 00:42:37,888 --> 00:42:40,057 as an action figure, a breakfast serial, 884 00:42:40,057 --> 00:42:41,392 a cartoon, and a video game, 885 00:42:41,392 --> 00:42:44,395 it's hard to believe that there was ever a time in Hollywood 886 00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:46,939 where merchandising just really wasn't a thing. 887 00:42:46,939 --> 00:42:49,525 When you really try to wrap your head around the impact 888 00:42:49,525 --> 00:42:54,905 of the decisions made by Roy and Walt Disney or Kay Kamen, 889 00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:56,657 [laughing] [glasses clink] 890 00:42:56,657 --> 00:43:00,244 so many of the things that we see in our day-to-day lives 891 00:43:00,244 --> 00:43:03,080 wouldn't be there without them. 892 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,583 [dramatic music] 893 00:43:05,633 --> 00:43:10,183 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 67989

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