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PROFILER 1X08: CRUEL AND UNUSUAL
ORIGINAL AIR DATE ON NBC: 12/14/1996
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-Don't look at me like that, Ronnie.
I'll only be gone a few hours.
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-Stop pouting.
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I mean it.
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Ok?.
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-When I get back,
we'll go for a walk.
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-Oh, he'll like this.
It shows lots of cleavage.
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-Yeah, but, Coop, I mean, how do you kill ninteen
people and not have a fingerprint on file anywhere?
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No, Jack's prints didn't match anything:
Not military, not criminal, nothing.
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Yeah, I miss you, too.
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All right, I'll, uh.
I'll talk to you over the weekend.
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Ok. All right.
Bye.
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-Hey.
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Oh, hey, Bailey.
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No.
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What kind of cage?
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-A couple of horseback
riders found her this afternoon.
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Local police think it might
be some kind of cult thing.
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Pretty freaked. They're not
used to this level of violence.
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-And we're supposed to be?
-How long has she been out here?
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- She's been dead less than 12 hours
and out here a few days before that.
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-Any idea who she is?
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-No I. D. On the body.
Nothing yet off missing persons.
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-Asphyxiated? - Well, it looks
like it, but she's covered with wounds.
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She's got burns on her feet, on
her back, lacerations to her head.
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-What's with her fingers?
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-Looks like she
was clawing the dirt.
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-Trying to get out.
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-Not with this lock.
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-Looks like her hair.
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-Was it cut off?
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- I don't know.
I have to examine it in the lab.
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I think she was pulling it out.
It's one big clump.
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-What the hell is this?
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- Ooh.
Ooh, that would drive me crazy.
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-Maybe that was the point.
Someone wanted her to go insane.
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- We found 6 prints on the
dry cleaning bag. No matches yet.
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-Any sexual abuse?
- No, not unless he's into feet.
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They've got third-degree burns
from some kind of flame.
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Maybe to stop her from running away?
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-No, I think he probably did
that after he got her into the cage.
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- It started with a stun gun.
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She's got 2 burns on her
back from 50,000 volts.
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-Well, maybe he had to
knock her out to get control.
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- Well, she's got severe head
trauma, but it's not from blunt force.
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I think she was banging
her head against the cage.
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-I think it was about torturing
her mind as well as her body.
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I mean, the lights,
the noise, her feet.
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- Looked like she had a pretty
good life before this: Designer
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clothes, the best dental work
money could buy, cesarean scar.
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-A mother.
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- Do you think he knew her?
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Or she just happened to be at the
wrong place at the wrong time?
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-No, the wounds are too specific.
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I think that the killer knew her.
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And I think that he wanted to
hurt her before he killed her.
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-It's almost as if
it was an act of revenge.
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-Just heard from Atlanta P.D.
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Someone called in a bomb
threat at the train station.
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Said the device was in
the handicapped stall.
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That's the same stall we
found Jack's last victim.
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-That's a nice subtle
message about Coop, isn't it?
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No bomb, right?
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-Just a note, to you.
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-Looks like you could use a hand.
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-I guess we're not
moving fast enough for him.
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- Sorry, we're busy.
He's not the only sick-o on our minds.
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-Well, he wants me
totally focused on him.
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-I called Coop. He's ok.
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-Thanks, Bailey.
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- We just got a
hit on missing persons.
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Cincinnati Bureau's
faxing over the stats.
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-Grace, could you --
-Oh, yeah, I'll get right on it.
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- Her name is Phyllis Thompson.
She's a clinical psychologist.
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Husband reported her
missing four days ago.
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-She was a psychologist?
- Yeah.
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They've been harassed for the past
two months, filed 8 police reports.
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-What were they on?
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- Well, the night she disappeared,
this was painted on the house.
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- A week before, broken windows, and the whole time,
they were getting weird stuff in the mail, like this stuff.
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-Any matching M. O.s?
- Not this century.
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-First impressions?
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-Well, there are two
things going on here.
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Psychologically, we have someone
who creates a total state of fear.
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-He enjoys taunting
and forecasting death.
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And on a physical level, he
tortures before he kills.
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-A sadist?
-Mmm, but it isn't sexual.
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I think it's about control or revenge.
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Where was Phyllis
Thompson's practice?
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- The outpatient clinic, St.
James Hospital, Cincinnati.
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-Check her patient list, John.
Sam, let's talk to the husband.
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-Mr.Thompson?
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-Mr.Thompson, can you tell us where
your wife was going when she disappeared?
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- She got a call from a patient.
Someone upset.
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- It won't come off.
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I got to get it off.
I can't stand looking at it.
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-You--you know what you could do?
You know what you could do?
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-You could paint over it.
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- Yeah, maybe this wall.
Just this section, yeah.
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- That'd work.
Thanks.
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-The person who called
your wife, was it a man, woman?
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- Philly didn't say, but whoever
it was, was a fake, the cops said.
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-Can you show us
where she was abducted?
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- Um.
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- The police said that.
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it happened right here
on the side of the road.
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Just right around here.
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- Dwayne! Dwayne!
Calm down.
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- Sorry about that.
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-It's ok.
We needed the adrenaline rush.
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- It's ok, good boy.
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-Was Dwayne out here the night
Phyllis disappeared? - Yeah.
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-Was he chained?
- No. At night, we don't chain him.
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-How did someone get past Dwayne?
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- He probably
threw a bone to Dwayne.
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-Did your wife ever mention any
patients that she was afraid of?
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- She didn't talk much about her
work -- um, professional ethics, I guess.
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But there were a couple guys
who kind of worried her.
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Um, Monty was one, and--and--and, I
don't' know, Jim or Jack or something.
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- Where's Jenn?
- She's out in the front.
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- Jennifer Ann!
What are you doing out here?
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Told you never, never, never
to go anywhere by yourself!
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What is wrong with you?
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-I've stopped being thrown every
time someone mentions the name Jack.
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-I get thrown too.
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I wake up in the morning
thinking about the Bastard.
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-Please pass the mustard.
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-Here. Do you know
what's in those things?
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-Sometimes, denial's a good thing.
Let's get back on Phyllis Thompson.
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-If it was a patient, I
know how she must've felt.
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One of my first patients
was a guy named Jerry Pape.
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After his first visit, I knew
he was a little out there.
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On his third visit, he gave me a lucky rabbit's
foot and I thought. huh. He's a little sweetie,
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he has a crush on me.
Then, I saw the rest of the rabbit
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over the pocket (she laughs).
-True love.
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-Hmm. Part of me was determined to stay and help him
and the other part just wanted to run for the hills.
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-What did you do?
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-I passed him along to
someone more experienced.
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And I felt like a complete failure.
-I'm glad you survived and.
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-Ego.
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-Malone.
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-Did you have any luck at the clinic?
-After I made a few threats.
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What is it with these people?
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You'd think it was the pentagon, the
way they try and hide their files.
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-Well, if you were a patient,
you'd probably appreciate it.
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-I'm investigating a murder, Sam.
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-What time?
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-Sorry.
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-Give me the address again.
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-Uh, she had a -- a violent patient named
Lenny Krupak, hung himself a couple of days ago.
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Sounds like he could've been the guy.
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-Not unless he
came back from the dead.
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Just found another victim.
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-Tennessee.
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- She's got the same "X" on her
back and burns from the stun gun.
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-Is there
anything on her feet?
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- No, her feet are fine.
The killer used the same kind of dry cleaning bag.
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-Phyllis Thompson
wasn't handcuffed.
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- And she wasn't outside
as long as Thompson was.
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-Could be changing his M. O.
, doing them quicker, less brutal.
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- I don't think so.
Take a look at this.
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-Oh.
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-What happened to her eyes?
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-Why would he want to blind her?
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- The same kind of cage.
Company's called Sutherland equipment.
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They sell wholesale to
kennels and animal shelters.
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-And then,
occasional psychopaths.
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- Women need to know about this, Bailey.
He's going from state to state.
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-I've already got it wired, Grace.
We got to be careful.
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We don't want to start a panic.
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-The police found clothing
fibers in the victim's car.
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We also got a name
here: Marilyn Norville.
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She's a teacher from Chattanooga.
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She and her car disappeared at the
discount mart parking lot two days ago.
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-Why here?
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-Secluded.
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far away from people. -Yeah, he doesn't do too
well with people. He does better with animals.
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Didn't have any trouble
getting past Dwayne.
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-Why these women?
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What do they have in common?
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-Maybe it's what they
don't have in common.
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Why would he try to blind one
and drive the other one crazy?
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Maybe he's angry at them
for different reasons.
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- I spoke to Marilyn Norville's husband. Past couple of
months they've been harassed just like Phyllis Thompson.
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Poor guy doesn't even
leave his house anymore.
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Basically, same thing: "X" spray
painted on the house, broken windows.
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-Thank you, Brad, thanks.
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-Bailey, I need you to listen to
this and tell me if it makes sense.
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I think that these
crimes are about prison.
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I mean, everything the victims went
through has something to do with
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being in prison: The stun gun, the
handcuffs, the bars on the cages.
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-Keep going.
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-Well, there's no connection between the victims -- I mean,
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at least not an obvious one -- but look at Adam Thompson.
I mean, he's a prisoner
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in his own home.
And all of the victims ended
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up prisoners in cages.
Now, who uses a stun gun?
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-Cops, prison guards.
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You think we're looking for
someone who works at a prison?
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-No, it's more like they're experiencing
what it's like to be a prisoner.
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I think that he's blaming
them for his experience.
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-Like it's their fault he
once went to prison? -Yeah.
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-Ok, so who's responsible
for putting people in prison?
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We've got police,
prosecutors, judge, jury.
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-Maybe they served on the
same jury and convicted him.
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-I'll have George check it out.
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- Sam, you want
to look at something?
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-If I can keep my eyes open.
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- Why? You couldn't sleep?
-No.
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My daughter Chloe has been having nightmares,
and, I don't know, it just worries me.
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- Well, how old is she?
-She's seven.
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- Aw, you know, 7-year-olds
have nightmares all the time.
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I used to have nightmares
at 7 years old.
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You know, you grow out of it.
She'll be all right.
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-Did you ever want to have kids?
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- Yeah, I did.
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But my ovaries, they had other plans.
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But, you know, I got the last laugh.
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I raised 3 poodles who think they are
kids, except I get to put them out
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in the backyard with a nice little
bowl of water and go to the movies.
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You can't do that with a kid, huh?
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-No, you can't.
- Now take a look at this.
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This is a note from the
train station, all right?
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Ok, come here.
Take a look at this.
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- This is a perfect match to the
print on the victim in the train station.
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-Which matches nothing.
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- It's got to be Jack's prints.
What else could it match?
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-Can you run all of the prints
at all of his crime scenes?
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Even the victims?
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I don't know, maybe we missed something.
- Sure, I can do that.
230
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-Great.
Thanks.
231
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-Ow!
232
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-Ow!
233
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-Sam, the link between
Norville and Thompson, you were right.
234
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They were both involved in
the same trial ten years ago.
235
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A guy named Ronnie McDern.
236
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He's on death row in North Carolina, set to be
executed tomorrow at midnight pending a final appeal.
237
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-Meet Ronnie McDern.
238
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Norville and Thompson both
lived in North Carolina.
239
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In '85 and '86, both testified
against him in his murder trial.
240
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- He and a partner
robbed a convenience store.
241
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McDern blew away the clerk and a
customer for no reason at all.
242
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And neither one of them ever
even saw McDern or his partner.
243
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Their backs were to
them the whole time.
244
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-Clerk did everything they said.
245
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Gave them the money,
didn't move, didn't speak.
246
00:19:07,156 --> 00:19:10,533
- Marilyn Norville saw the whole thing.
She testified against him at his trial.
247
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She nailed his ass.
248
00:19:13,784 --> 00:19:15,251
- Against the wall!
249
00:19:15,608 --> 00:19:17,144
- Turn around!
250
00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:19,320
- Against the wall!
251
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:22,031
- Don't move!
252
00:19:39,872 --> 00:19:40,970
-That's why he tried to blind her.
253
00:19:41,011 --> 00:19:45,482
-And Phyllis Thompson testified that he was sane when
he pulled the trigger, which wipes out his insanity plea.
254
00:19:45,491 --> 00:19:47,785
-So he drove her insane.
-He didn't.
255
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He's behind bars thirty-six hours
from meeting with the hangman.
256
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-We'll see. He's already had a
couple of trials and a string of appeals.
257
00:19:56,255 --> 00:19:59,356
Thirty-six hours is a long time.
-Especially if you're seeking revenge.
258
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When was his last appeal denied?
259
00:20:02,011 --> 00:20:03,971
- Two months ago.
When the harassment started.
260
00:20:04,270 --> 00:20:06,713
-What's the method of
execution in North Carolina?
261
00:20:06,757 --> 00:20:08,240
-Guess.
262
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-Gas.
It asphyxiates.
263
00:20:15,302 --> 00:20:17,244
All right, so who's doing
his killing for him?
264
00:20:17,289 --> 00:20:21,030
- Well, his partner, Dan Parson.
he did his time. He got out a year ago.
265
00:20:21,848 --> 00:20:23,011
-John, talk with him.
266
00:20:23,220 --> 00:20:26,592
If he's planning on killing anyone else,
he's probably harassed them like the others.
267
00:20:26,612 --> 00:20:30,107
George, contact everyone connected
with his trials, from the judge to the
268
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bailiffs who work the courtroom,
anyone with the slightest harassment.
269
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I don't care if they got bumped
on line at a grocery store.
270
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I want them under protective custody.
271
00:20:38,065 --> 00:20:40,631
-What about McDern?
Who's talking to him?
272
00:20:43,153 --> 00:20:46,479
-I'm going to check the visitor's list.
I'll meet you inside. -Okay.
273
00:20:49,267 --> 00:20:50,768
-Yes, I have it right here.
274
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-Thank you.
275
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-Mr.
McDern?
276
00:21:26,008 --> 00:21:28,975
- I hope
this doesn't offend you.
277
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:48,793
- Women's lib: In.
or out these days? -If you don't mind, I'd
278
00:21:48,944 --> 00:21:54,327
like to ask you a few questions.
- That's fine by me.
279
00:21:56,329 --> 00:21:59,670
-I understand that you've
had a pretty rough time in here.
280
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You filed a civil suit after some
guards burned your feet on the asphalt.
281
00:22:07,958 --> 00:22:10,032
- They're
all healed now, ma'am.
282
00:22:10,959 --> 00:22:13,184
Not that it makes any difference.
283
00:22:14,490 --> 00:22:18,199
-I saw some similar burns
on a murder victim in Ohio.
284
00:22:19,104 --> 00:22:20,249
Phyllis Thompson.
285
00:22:22,145 --> 00:22:24,061
-You don't remember her?
286
00:22:26,143 --> 00:22:27,554
- Should I?
287
00:22:28,063 --> 00:22:32,514
-Well, she testified against you at
your trial along with Marilyn Norville.
288
00:22:33,394 --> 00:22:35,619
They were both murdered recently.
289
00:22:37,758 --> 00:22:42,652
- I'm sorry, ma'am.
I. I don't know anything about it.
290
00:22:43,544 --> 00:22:48,449
I mean, if they were at my trial.
I don't remember them.
291
00:22:49,398 --> 00:22:52,035
- I don't think
about it much at all, honestly.
292
00:22:53,006 --> 00:22:57,824
I try to keep my sights on
the future, not the past.
293
00:22:58,665 --> 00:23:03,185
- Maybe someone read
about me and got some crazy ideas.
294
00:23:12,513 --> 00:23:15,236
-Maybe it was someone you know.
295
00:23:16,332 --> 00:23:18,134
- I have
a lot of supporters.
296
00:23:19,809 --> 00:23:22,507
but they've been trying to get
justice through the court.
297
00:23:23,481 --> 00:23:26,009
-And what is your
idea of justice, Ronnie?
298
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,500
- Truth.
299
00:23:31,198 --> 00:23:33,423
People not lying about me.
300
00:23:34,938 --> 00:23:36,867
I was a hothead.
301
00:23:38,541 --> 00:23:40,469
I'll give you that.
302
00:23:41,153 --> 00:23:43,378
But I didn't kill nobody.
303
00:23:44,965 --> 00:23:47,932
It was Dan who pulled that trigger.
304
00:23:48,980 --> 00:23:51,948
-Well, the jury
didn't see it that way.
305
00:23:55,129 --> 00:23:57,712
- Well, they
don't always see the truth.
306
00:24:00,718 --> 00:24:03,074
- And I'm
paying for that with my life.
307
00:24:07,132 --> 00:24:08,913
But I didn't kill anybody.
308
00:24:18,508 --> 00:24:20,437
-Excuse me.
309
00:24:31,752 --> 00:24:32,927
-It's a woman.
310
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If anyone is killing
for him, it's a woman.
311
00:24:36,435 --> 00:24:37,551
-Are you sure?
312
00:24:38,807 --> 00:24:41,141
-He's very charming,
in a scary sort of way.
313
00:24:41,602 --> 00:24:44,994
What else would explain the stun gun?
She needed to knock them out first.
314
00:24:45,594 --> 00:24:48,092
-Then she just
killed his Public Defender.
315
00:24:48,703 --> 00:24:50,442
We couldn't get there quick enough.
316
00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:12,039
-Did you find anything?
317
00:25:13,748 --> 00:25:17,030
-"Dear Ronnie, I miss you
so much I've decided to do it.
318
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:18,762
I'm leaving my husband.
319
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:21,465
You were so right about everything.
He doesn't understand.
320
00:25:22,291 --> 00:25:26,000
Even my kids don't understand,
but I know you do.
321
00:25:27,059 --> 00:25:27,684
" I don't.
322
00:25:27,802 --> 00:25:29,724
-There's a lot of
lonely women out there.
323
00:25:29,752 --> 00:25:31,888
Look at this.
Ronnie McDern fan club.
324
00:25:32,863 --> 00:25:36,075
-You'd think she'd touch up her
roots for the picture, if she really cared.
325
00:25:44,451 --> 00:25:45,123
-Bailey.
326
00:25:46,566 --> 00:25:47,411
-Look at this.
327
00:25:53,003 --> 00:25:55,697
-What do you think they are?
Proof she did the job for him?
328
00:25:55,725 --> 00:25:57,384
-Or proof of her love for him.
329
00:25:57,744 --> 00:26:00,227
It's probably the way they
consummated their relationship.
330
00:26:00,284 --> 00:26:03,726
-Well, which one is she?
There's dozens of them.
331
00:26:04,934 --> 00:26:06,590
- What do
you think you're doing?
332
00:26:06,812 --> 00:26:09,779
-Bailey Malone,
Sam Waters, FBI.
333
00:26:10,796 --> 00:26:11,669
-And you are?
334
00:26:11,695 --> 00:26:13,738
- Katherine Evers, Mr.
McDern's attorney.
335
00:26:13,765 --> 00:26:15,573
He just informed me
of your little visit.
336
00:26:15,611 --> 00:26:19,078
Get this straight: I don't like little
visits with my clients when I'm not present.
337
00:26:19,071 --> 00:26:21,960
-Your client's a suspect in
a double homicide investigation.
338
00:26:21,971 --> 00:26:22,854
- Really?
How convenient.
339
00:26:22,856 --> 00:26:26,319
You pin a couple of cases you can't solve
on someone who's about to be executed.
340
00:26:26,323 --> 00:26:30,024
-Both victims helped convict McDern
in his original trial fifteen years ago.
341
00:26:30,055 --> 00:26:32,198
What do you call that,
Miss Evers, a coincidence?
342
00:26:32,223 --> 00:26:35,677
- If he is under investigation for a
crime, he had a right to counsel when you talked to him.
343
00:26:35,704 --> 00:26:37,930
Now, your behavior's outrageous.
344
00:26:38,198 --> 00:26:39,183
-Give me a break.
345
00:26:39,408 --> 00:26:40,716
He's a convicted murderer.
346
00:26:41,614 --> 00:26:44,950
- That is my client's personal property.
I'd advise you not to take it.
347
00:26:45,404 --> 00:26:47,786
- You just bought
yourself a lawsuit. -Why bother?
348
00:26:47,809 --> 00:26:50,088
McDern's not going to be
around to collect the damages.
349
00:26:51,105 --> 00:26:51,845
-Excuse me.
350
00:27:22,812 --> 00:27:25,391
- I just finished
McDern's enemy list.
351
00:27:25,424 --> 00:27:28,954
three other people were harassed.
The jury foreman, the judge from his
352
00:27:28,963 --> 00:27:31,514
second trial, and the prosecuting attorney.
-You brought 'em
353
00:27:31,524 --> 00:27:33,358
under protective custody?
- Oh, yeah, it's taken care of.
354
00:27:33,372 --> 00:27:36,800
Yeah, we've been reading McDern's letters
from these women - -One second.
355
00:27:36,816 --> 00:27:38,613
- Some of them
need to be locked away.
356
00:27:38,616 --> 00:27:41,668
-You know, well, nine times out
of ten, these women have been abused.
357
00:27:41,662 --> 00:27:43,959
And a lot of them don't think
that their men are guilty.
358
00:27:43,975 --> 00:27:45,811
I mean, Carol Bruth, she didn't.
359
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:48,760
She fell for Ted Bundy at his trial,
married him and had his child.
360
00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:49,696
-You're kidding me.
361
00:27:49,694 --> 00:27:54,044
One of the hillside stranglers, Kenneth
Bianchi's girlfriend tried to copycat a crime.
362
00:27:54,035 --> 00:27:56,638
Make the police think the real
killer was still on the loose.
363
00:27:56,678 --> 00:27:58,838
She tried to kill a woman for him.
364
00:27:58,864 --> 00:28:01,867
-But she botched the murder,
and he married someone else.
365
00:28:02,689 --> 00:28:04,270
-Let's meet McDern's fan club.
366
00:28:06,743 --> 00:28:10,677
-Number one is Rita Herrera. 32, divorced, works
as a manicurist.
367
00:28:10,681 --> 00:28:13,501
She's been corresponding with
McDern for the last eight years.
368
00:28:13,495 --> 00:28:15,884
- I just don't get it. I don't know.
Call me crazy.
369
00:28:15,902 --> 00:28:18,698
-A lot of these women associate
violence with masculinity.
370
00:28:18,942 --> 00:28:21,706
The more violent the man is,
the more feminine they feel.
371
00:28:21,826 --> 00:28:24,294
- Take Charles Manson.
never hard up for a date.
372
00:28:25,224 --> 00:28:27,844
-He could mesmerize women.
Sort of like McDern.
373
00:28:28,069 --> 00:28:30,440
-Heard you thought he was charming.
- How did they do it?
374
00:28:30,669 --> 00:28:32,376
-Well, they're
natural psychologists.
375
00:28:32,392 --> 00:28:35,359
They're experts at
manipulating human emotion.
376
00:28:35,368 --> 00:28:37,878
All that time in prison, they
learn how to read people.
377
00:28:37,889 --> 00:28:39,034
-Let's try to read these women.
378
00:28:39,041 --> 00:28:42,086
We've got a lot of letters
and not a lot of time.
379
00:28:42,714 --> 00:28:46,424
-Ok, uh, number 2 is a doctor,
Leslie Ryan, and why she's
380
00:28:46,416 --> 00:28:49,082
going for a guy like him when she could have me, I don't know.
381
00:28:49,097 --> 00:28:53,503
- You know, here's something. She moved to North
Carolina to be closer to the prison two years ago.
382
00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:56,066
-Did any of the others?
- Yes, four of the others.
383
00:28:56,198 --> 00:28:57,332
-Let's concentrate on them.
384
00:28:58,391 --> 00:29:01,498
- And they all showed up on his
visitors list for the past two months.
385
00:29:02,201 --> 00:29:05,412
Barbara Minetta, she's a
nurse at park hills hospital.
386
00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:11,218
Ilene Klinger she's been protesting one
thing or another ever since Vietnam.
387
00:29:11,631 --> 00:29:16,635
Helen Oaks is 35.
She's unemployed since her move to Raleigh.
388
00:29:17,284 --> 00:29:19,510
And Corporal Mackensie Sutton.
389
00:29:19,755 --> 00:29:22,323
Stationed at an army
base in Greensboro.
390
00:29:22,921 --> 00:29:24,527
-Let's check their alibis.
391
00:29:25,158 --> 00:29:26,364
-That's not everyone.
392
00:29:27,121 --> 00:29:29,156
Katherine Evers is in
love with him, too.
393
00:29:29,832 --> 00:29:31,732
LAWYER: Just tell him we
don't have until tomorrow.
394
00:29:32,346 --> 00:29:33,662
We need another stay.
395
00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:36,329
-Did he ever mention any of these women to you: Uh, Barbara
396
00:29:36,338 --> 00:29:39,007
Minetta, Helen Oaks, Mackenzie Sutton, or Ilene Klinger?
397
00:29:39,056 --> 00:29:41,380
- Uh, no.
-You're sure about that? - Yes.
398
00:29:41,845 --> 00:29:44,744
-Would you mind just
looking at these letters?
399
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:46,502
- Do I look
somewhat busy to you?
400
00:29:47,502 --> 00:29:49,808
I'm waiting for the ruling on an
appeal that could save a man's life.
401
00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:53,698
Now, I don't have the time, nor the inclination
to look at his correspondence at the moment.
402
00:29:54,152 --> 00:29:55,970
-These aren't just pen pals.
403
00:29:55,967 --> 00:29:57,302
They're in love with him.
404
00:30:08,733 --> 00:30:10,399
- Get
this crap out of here.
405
00:30:11,368 --> 00:30:14,335
-Miss Evers, I'm
trying to save lives, too.
406
00:30:14,478 --> 00:30:16,634
One of these women may
have killed for McDern.
407
00:30:16,629 --> 00:30:19,013
I think that he knew it and
probably encouraged it.
408
00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:22,480
- Well, I think that's
impossible because, you see, I know my client.
409
00:30:23,566 --> 00:30:25,212
And he wouldn't do that.
410
00:30:27,619 --> 00:30:29,410
-He used these women.
411
00:30:30,736 --> 00:30:32,345
And I think he's using you.
412
00:30:32,981 --> 00:30:34,187
- Get out!
413
00:30:35,081 --> 00:30:36,011
Now.
414
00:31:13,628 --> 00:31:14,384
-Sam!
415
00:31:16,901 --> 00:31:18,009
-Any luck?
416
00:31:18,007 --> 00:31:20,671
-Sutton was at an officer training
camp the day Thompson was kidnapped.
417
00:31:20,689 --> 00:31:23,766
We haven't found Helen or Barbara.
We've got agents at their homes waiting.
418
00:31:23,783 --> 00:31:26,097
-What about Ilene Klinger?
-Her son said she'd be here.
419
00:31:26,106 --> 00:31:28,403
She's been crusading against
the death penalty for years.
420
00:31:28,453 --> 00:31:32,191
-She got to know McDern fighting his
cause.The, uh, love came later.
421
00:31:34,657 --> 00:31:37,493
-Look, uh, check the perimeter.
Meet me back here in five minutes.
422
00:31:41,228 --> 00:31:44,381
-George found a match on the
fingerprints from the Atlanta Train Station.
423
00:31:45,694 --> 00:31:46,691
They're not Jack's.
424
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:50,330
-Whose were they?
425
00:31:50,600 --> 00:32:00,278
-His 11th victim. Dr. Nelson.
-The doctor who delivered me?
426
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:06,729
-I'd say he's winning, Bailey.
427
00:32:08,533 --> 00:32:13,398
- Free Ronnie McDern!
Free Ronnie McDern!
428
00:32:13,693 --> 00:32:14,799
-That's Klinger.
429
00:32:20,352 --> 00:32:23,418
-Ilene Klinger.
-We're with the FBI.
430
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,894
We'd like to talk to you about your
relationship with Ronnie McDern.
431
00:32:26,979 --> 00:32:28,363
- Yes, what about it?
432
00:32:28,413 --> 00:32:31,659
-Well, we understand that you
have very deep feelings for Ronnie.
433
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:35,991
- I didn't know it was
illegal to care about another human being.
434
00:32:36,003 --> 00:32:38,274
-Depends on how
far your caring went.
435
00:32:38,716 --> 00:32:40,033
Where were you Tuesday night?
436
00:32:40,696 --> 00:32:43,545
- Tuesday night I
was at the prayer vigil, why?
437
00:32:44,134 --> 00:32:46,483
Would you like to know what I did
every other night this week?
438
00:32:46,495 --> 00:32:49,337
Wednesday there was a demonstration in
front of city hall, and Thursday there
439
00:32:49,346 --> 00:32:53,797
was a letter-writing campaign, and yesterday
I spent with my divorce attorney.
440
00:32:53,789 --> 00:32:55,408
I was hoping it would come through.
441
00:32:56,586 --> 00:32:58,034
I want to marry Ronnie.
442
00:33:02,855 --> 00:33:06,761
I don't expect you to understand, but when
you love someone, you make sacrifices.
443
00:33:08,146 --> 00:33:10,243
-Like killing for him?
- What?
444
00:33:11,803 --> 00:33:13,889
Ronnie's not capable of murder.
445
00:33:14,937 --> 00:33:19,284
So why would he want someone else to?
He's the kindest, gentlest man I have ever met.
446
00:33:19,921 --> 00:33:22,250
- Ilene? Look at this.
447
00:33:35,831 --> 00:33:38,907
- They've denied his stay.
They're going to kill him at midnight.
448
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,297
-No sign of Helen or Barbara.
Just a lot of unhappy campers.
449
00:33:51,463 --> 00:33:53,397
-The execution
goes on at midnight.
450
00:33:53,942 --> 00:33:56,111
-Which judge denied the
appeal and lifted the stay?
451
00:33:56,132 --> 00:34:00,413
-Oh, some federal judge.
I got it covered, surrounded the courthouse just in case.
452
00:34:00,460 --> 00:34:03,113
-Was that Ilene?
Shouldn't we stay on her?
453
00:34:03,244 --> 00:34:04,619
-No.
She's not going anywhere.
454
00:34:05,771 --> 00:34:10,314
It's got to be either Helen or Barbara.
-If she can't get to the judge, who does she go after?
455
00:34:10,354 --> 00:34:16,019
-Who else is to blame?
-The person who lost the appeal. Katherine Evers.
456
00:34:24,366 --> 00:34:27,001
-They're keeping him down here.
He's on death watch.
457
00:34:27,025 --> 00:34:29,028
-Wouldn't want
to cheat the hangman.
458
00:34:29,363 --> 00:34:33,030
-Some of the other prisoners were egging him on.
I wouldn't mind it myself.
459
00:34:33,525 --> 00:34:36,186
I'd get home for a hot
meal that much quicker.
460
00:34:44,678 --> 00:34:49,622
- I don't want no trouble, but
I don't feel like talking to you right now.
461
00:34:52,944 --> 00:34:57,261
Get me my chaplain? -Yeah.
Just relax and talk to these guys.
462
00:34:58,411 --> 00:35:00,981
- What do you want?
-Ronnie, where's Katherine?
463
00:35:01,449 --> 00:35:04,083
- She's supposed to be here.
What do you mean?
464
00:35:05,503 --> 00:35:07,455
-Why don't you
tell us where she is?
465
00:35:12,524 --> 00:35:15,927
- I don't know.
She's ok, isn't she?
466
00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:17,644
-When are you
going to stop, Ronnie?
467
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,792
Is this how you want to spend
the last few hours of your life.
468
00:35:22,838 --> 00:35:29,235
a liar?
-I know you're scared.
469
00:35:30,584 --> 00:35:32,436
- Yeah,
but I want my family.
470
00:35:38,778 --> 00:35:42,074
-I think what you
want is some peace.
471
00:35:43,502 --> 00:35:46,150
And you're never going to have that
unless you start telling the truth.
472
00:35:59,811 --> 00:36:03,243
- If anyone's going
psycho, it's--it's Barbara.
473
00:36:04,401 --> 00:36:06,330
-And why is that?
474
00:36:07,099 --> 00:36:09,400
- She can't deal with
the fact that I'm going to die.
475
00:36:14,387 --> 00:36:18,096
About six months ago, she
-- she started to get weird.
476
00:36:18,931 --> 00:36:21,361
Asking me all kinds of
things about the trial.
477
00:36:21,924 --> 00:36:23,689
I didn't realize why until.
478
00:36:24,505 --> 00:36:29,450
well, until you came by. -Why didn't you say
something before? - I wasn't sure.
479
00:36:31,395 --> 00:36:33,547
You have to find Katherine, I mean.
480
00:36:34,215 --> 00:36:39,203
no one deserves to get killed.
Not her.
481
00:36:42,928 --> 00:36:44,115
Not me.
482
00:36:45,861 --> 00:36:47,345
Not anyone.
483
00:36:48,568 --> 00:36:52,800
-Eternity is a long time, McDern.
For the sake of your soul.
484
00:36:53,767 --> 00:36:55,993
I hope you're telling the truth.
485
00:37:12,403 --> 00:37:13,527
- Ma'am?
486
00:37:19,024 --> 00:37:20,977
- You
believe me, don't you?
487
00:37:53,423 --> 00:37:55,556
-It's Helen, not Barbara.
-Why?
488
00:37:55,586 --> 00:37:58,432
-Because from the moment I met
him, he was trying to manipulate me.
489
00:37:58,454 --> 00:38:01,081
And he still is.
-How'd he know to turn in Barbara?
490
00:38:02,829 --> 00:38:05,768
-I mentioned their names to Katherine.
She must have told him.
491
00:38:06,006 --> 00:38:07,678
-We've got 68 minutes.
492
00:38:37,014 --> 00:38:38,595
-Be my guest.
493
00:38:42,243 --> 00:38:43,726
-Ok.
494
00:38:44,956 --> 00:38:46,275
-Good boy.
495
00:38:46,336 --> 00:38:49,245
-You get bit as a kid?
-Atta boy.
496
00:38:49,672 --> 00:38:51,601
That's it, good boy.
497
00:39:00,173 --> 00:39:02,102
-She's a rescuer.
498
00:39:32,402 --> 00:39:35,394
-McDern's not the only one
who got off on those pictures.
499
00:39:44,613 --> 00:39:46,097
-Guys!
500
00:39:51,899 --> 00:39:53,828
-Look at this.
501
00:40:02,343 --> 00:40:04,068
-Reserved for the judge?
502
00:40:06,477 --> 00:40:09,676
-And the D. A.
-What are those for?
503
00:40:10,586 --> 00:40:13,799
Don't take me there.
-How about Katherine?
504
00:40:13,806 --> 00:40:15,188
Where's her cage?
505
00:40:15,211 --> 00:40:18,597
Didn't Ray say that these were
sold at kennels and pet shops?
506
00:40:18,601 --> 00:40:21,118
-Maybe she works at one.
-No, she's unemployed.
507
00:40:21,146 --> 00:40:24,784
-These animals are from the pound.
-She volunteered.
508
00:40:25,737 --> 00:40:28,204
She couldn't stand to see them
killed, so she brought them home.
509
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:34,612
-Don't they kill stray animals with gas?
-Yeah.
510
00:40:38,989 --> 00:40:41,896
-She's going to kill Katherine
the same way Ronnie's going to die.
511
00:40:41,943 --> 00:40:44,277
-They're from the
Blue Ridge Animal Shelter.
512
00:40:45,585 --> 00:40:47,068
-Let's go.
513
00:41:01,317 --> 00:41:03,134
-I'll go around back.
514
00:41:14,494 --> 00:41:17,990
-You know there are dogs in here.
-Don't worry, John, they're in cages.
515
00:41:18,632 --> 00:41:19,873
-Can I help you?
516
00:41:21,697 --> 00:41:26,339
-Helen, where's Katherine?
-You can try all you want.
517
00:41:26,331 --> 00:41:30,298
You're never going to separate me and Ronnie.
Our love is too strong.
518
00:41:31,094 --> 00:41:36,177
Last week we went roller skating.
He wanted me to get some color in my cheeks.
519
00:41:37,304 --> 00:41:41,968
And we watched the sunset together.
It's one of Ronnie's favorite things to do.
520
00:41:43,220 --> 00:41:45,149
He's so romantic.
521
00:41:48,849 --> 00:41:51,817
-Helen, we'd like
you to come with us.
522
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,488
-Use it.
Then I'll be with Ronnie tonight.
523
00:42:07,269 --> 00:42:08,738
-John!
-I got her.
524
00:42:15,297 --> 00:42:16,781
-Helen!
525
00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:46,389
-Hold it!
526
00:42:52,798 --> 00:42:54,641
-Roll over! Roll over!
527
00:42:55,856 --> 00:42:58,305
-Your arm! Your other arm!
528
00:43:02,434 --> 00:43:04,362
-It's over, Helen.
529
00:43:20,646 --> 00:43:22,871
-Turn off the gas!
530
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,680
-Come on.
Breathe! Breathe!
531
00:43:43,264 --> 00:43:44,748
-It's ok.
532
00:43:45,978 --> 00:43:47,462
You're ok.
533
00:43:48,691 --> 00:43:50,175
-Ok.
534
00:43:51,405 --> 00:43:52,889
-She's ok.
535
00:44:08,104 --> 00:44:10,245
-Move back, folks, move back.
536
00:45:00,333 --> 00:45:05,539
-What would you do if you only had 12 minutes left to live?
-I can't even think about it.
537
00:45:06,077 --> 00:45:09,230
How about you?
-I don't know.
538
00:45:09,799 --> 00:45:13,508
Guess I'd try to settle that
age old question of redemption.
539
00:45:14,413 --> 00:45:16,639
-What about McDern?
540
00:45:17,164 --> 00:45:19,390
Think he cares about redemption?
541
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:04,530
-If this day ever comes for
Jack, would you want to be there?
542
00:46:08,454 --> 00:46:10,383
-I don't know.
543
00:46:18,314 --> 00:46:23,734
-No, mom. mom, you got to keep the heat on.
The nights are getting too cold.
544
00:46:25,634 --> 00:46:29,414
If you need some money, I can
send you some money. Yeah.
545
00:46:29,977 --> 00:46:32,914
no, uh, as a matter of fact,
I'm feeling pretty cozy.
546
00:46:32,931 --> 00:46:35,797
You know, I'm wearing those
flannel PJs you sent me.
547
00:46:37,911 --> 00:46:40,198
-Yeah. Ha ha!
548
00:46:40,436 --> 00:46:42,801
-Uh, no, mama. Yeah.
549
00:46:42,832 --> 00:46:45,301
I--I love you.
I love you, too, mom.
550
00:46:47,666 --> 00:46:49,149
-Bye.
551
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:53,749
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