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You seem like a nice guy, 2 00:00:04,826 --> 00:00:06,894 but this is not a city or a job for nice guys. 3 00:00:08,430 --> 00:00:11,299 "Gotham's" a show very much about the origin stories 4 00:00:11,367 --> 00:00:14,335 of some of the great super villains of the DC mythology. 5 00:00:14,403 --> 00:00:16,471 McKenzie: So you see a young Catwoman, 6 00:00:16,539 --> 00:00:18,005 you see a young Poison Ivy, 7 00:00:18,073 --> 00:00:21,043 a young Penguin, Riddler, possibly the Joker. 8 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:24,145 You see all of these legendary characters, 9 00:00:24,183 --> 00:00:25,945 but you're seeing them at a point in their lives 10 00:00:25,994 --> 00:00:28,229 which has not really been explored before. 11 00:00:28,297 --> 00:00:29,564 Part of this fun is that 12 00:00:29,631 --> 00:00:30,565 we don't want to just regurgitate a comic book. 13 00:00:30,632 --> 00:00:31,999 We need to elevate it. 14 00:00:32,067 --> 00:00:34,435 We need to make it something it's never been before 15 00:00:34,503 --> 00:00:36,137 while still staying true to the DNA. 16 00:00:36,205 --> 00:00:37,738 It really pays due homage 17 00:00:37,806 --> 00:00:40,641 to everything anyone knows about Gotham in the past 18 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:42,243 and gets crazier and crazier. 19 00:00:47,615 --> 00:00:50,712 sync and corrections by madhatters - www.addic7ed.com - 20 00:00:51,089 --> 00:00:52,857 The idea for this show 21 00:00:52,924 --> 00:00:57,008 came from trying to find a fresh way into the D.C. mythology, 22 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,158 and it seemed like the perfect place 23 00:00:59,225 --> 00:01:01,126 to start was the city of Gotham. 24 00:01:01,194 --> 00:01:03,929 What the show looks at is why a town like that 25 00:01:03,997 --> 00:01:06,697 will eventually need a vigilante to help them. 26 00:01:06,765 --> 00:01:08,366 What makes a town so crazy, 27 00:01:08,434 --> 00:01:10,634 what makes a town so out of control 28 00:01:10,702 --> 00:01:12,971 that villains begin to wear costumes? 29 00:01:13,038 --> 00:01:15,606 Heller: The basic premise of the series is a "what if?" Really. 30 00:01:15,674 --> 00:01:19,477 It's what if James Gordon was the rookie detective 31 00:01:19,544 --> 00:01:23,014 that investigated the death of Bruce Wayne's parents? 32 00:01:24,516 --> 00:01:26,250 And once you make that connection 33 00:01:26,318 --> 00:01:28,152 between those two iconic characters, 34 00:01:28,220 --> 00:01:30,153 the story kind of rolls on from there. 35 00:01:30,221 --> 00:01:31,888 Johns: So, you meet this young detective 36 00:01:31,956 --> 00:01:34,157 who is out to uncover corruption and do the right thing 37 00:01:34,225 --> 00:01:35,459 in a city that doesn't 38 00:01:35,526 --> 00:01:37,094 necessarily want you to do the right thing 39 00:01:37,161 --> 00:01:38,528 or need you to do the right thing. 40 00:01:38,596 --> 00:01:39,997 When we start the series, 41 00:01:40,064 --> 00:01:42,232 James is more or less straight out of the military. 42 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:45,502 Has not been in Gotham in a decade or more. 43 00:01:45,569 --> 00:01:47,004 He left when he was a kid. 44 00:01:47,071 --> 00:01:49,239 He's a little bit of a fish out of water. 45 00:01:49,307 --> 00:01:51,841 He doesn't exactly know what's going on in Gotham, 46 00:01:51,909 --> 00:01:54,176 and he's figuring it out moment to moment. 47 00:01:54,244 --> 00:01:56,578 Everybody down! 48 00:01:58,415 --> 00:02:00,949 Hold your fire! I got this! 49 00:02:01,018 --> 00:02:03,952 He'll make mistakes, he'll trust the wrong people, 50 00:02:04,021 --> 00:02:06,088 follow his heart, and at times 51 00:02:06,156 --> 00:02:09,225 that will lead him into dangerous situations. 52 00:02:09,292 --> 00:02:12,861 As an actor, that's a very relatable place to start. 53 00:02:12,929 --> 00:02:15,697 Ben McKenzie is perfect for the role of Gordon 54 00:02:15,765 --> 00:02:19,167 because he has a kind of natural integrity and strength... 55 00:02:19,235 --> 00:02:21,069 an old-fashioned set of values 56 00:02:21,137 --> 00:02:23,705 that really shines through his performance. 57 00:02:23,773 --> 00:02:25,607 Sir, look at me. 58 00:02:25,675 --> 00:02:26,975 Not at them, look at me. 59 00:02:27,043 --> 00:02:27,876 [Grunts] 60 00:02:27,944 --> 00:02:28,944 My name's Jim. 61 00:02:29,012 --> 00:02:30,178 Jim Gordon. 62 00:02:30,246 --> 00:02:32,881 This is one of the iconic figures 63 00:02:32,949 --> 00:02:35,316 in comic-book law enforcement. 64 00:02:35,384 --> 00:02:39,119 It's daunting to play him, to be honest with you. 65 00:02:39,187 --> 00:02:40,621 It's a little bit scary. 66 00:02:40,689 --> 00:02:43,057 And yet it's thrilling. 67 00:02:43,124 --> 00:02:44,625 [Grunting] 68 00:02:44,693 --> 00:02:46,427 Heller: In this telling of the Gotham story, 69 00:02:46,494 --> 00:02:48,362 James Gordon is partnered with Harvey bullock. 70 00:02:48,430 --> 00:02:50,364 Johns: Harvey bullock's a detective in the comics. 71 00:02:50,432 --> 00:02:52,066 He's never been realized in live action, 72 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:54,201 and donal logue is the first person to ever play him, 73 00:02:54,269 --> 00:02:55,937 and he's absolutely perfect for the role. 74 00:02:56,004 --> 00:02:57,371 What the hell are you doing? 75 00:02:57,439 --> 00:02:58,672 We had the drop on him. 76 00:02:58,739 --> 00:03:00,207 Yeah, well, he's dropped, isn't he? 77 00:03:00,275 --> 00:03:02,242 You could've gotten hurt. Rookie mistake. 78 00:03:02,310 --> 00:03:04,244 Somebody takes a cop's gun, you shoot him. 79 00:03:04,312 --> 00:03:05,779 That's basic. 80 00:03:05,846 --> 00:03:09,483 He's been around Gotham for just years and years and years, 81 00:03:09,551 --> 00:03:11,685 and so, in order to survive in this city 82 00:03:11,752 --> 00:03:14,921 he's had to kind of develop his own brand of morality. 83 00:03:14,989 --> 00:03:15,789 Hey! 84 00:03:15,856 --> 00:03:17,857 Huh? 85 00:03:17,925 --> 00:03:18,525 How you doing? 86 00:03:20,227 --> 00:03:24,163 James' relationship with Harvey bullock is very complex. 87 00:03:24,231 --> 00:03:28,468 Harvey's been whittled down to expect very little of the city. 88 00:03:28,535 --> 00:03:31,170 The case is closed. Forget about it. 89 00:03:31,238 --> 00:03:32,871 Even if the real killers are still out there? 90 00:03:32,939 --> 00:03:34,640 Yes. 91 00:03:34,708 --> 00:03:37,009 This is very perilous stuff you're messing with. 92 00:03:37,077 --> 00:03:40,213 Logue: He's introducing Gordon to Gotham, 93 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,016 and Gotham is nothing like Gordon's ever seen before. 94 00:03:44,084 --> 00:03:45,750 When I started work on the show 95 00:03:45,818 --> 00:03:47,952 and started digging into the origin stories 96 00:03:48,020 --> 00:03:49,254 of these great villains, 97 00:03:49,322 --> 00:03:51,156 one of the things I realized was 98 00:03:51,224 --> 00:03:54,392 there really is not a lot known about the early history. 99 00:03:54,460 --> 00:03:56,861 We've never really seen where the penguin comes from 100 00:03:56,929 --> 00:03:58,330 or why he does what he does, 101 00:03:58,397 --> 00:04:00,132 or the Riddler, or even Catwoman. 102 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:01,933 Cannon: Who were the super villains in this city 103 00:04:02,001 --> 00:04:03,335 and how did they become that way? 104 00:04:03,402 --> 00:04:04,836 Maybe they were just like me and you. 105 00:04:04,903 --> 00:04:06,871 Why on earth would that real person 106 00:04:06,939 --> 00:04:08,706 turn into this crazy psychopath? 107 00:04:08,774 --> 00:04:09,873 [Laughs] 108 00:04:09,941 --> 00:04:11,175 These quintessential characters 109 00:04:11,243 --> 00:04:12,543 that we've all grown up with, 110 00:04:12,611 --> 00:04:14,178 you finally get to see and understand 111 00:04:14,246 --> 00:04:16,247 how they ended up where they ended up. 112 00:04:16,314 --> 00:04:18,182 Anyone ever tell you when you walk, 113 00:04:18,250 --> 00:04:19,883 you look just like a penguin? 114 00:04:19,951 --> 00:04:21,418 No. Nobody's ever told me that. 115 00:04:21,486 --> 00:04:23,420 I love origin stories. 116 00:04:23,488 --> 00:04:25,289 I love origin stories. 117 00:04:25,357 --> 00:04:29,059 Being able to see how these wonderful characters 118 00:04:29,127 --> 00:04:31,961 that we've all grown up with started 119 00:04:32,029 --> 00:04:34,197 is so interesting and so much fun. 120 00:04:34,265 --> 00:04:34,797 Boy? 121 00:04:34,865 --> 00:04:37,267 Sorry. 122 00:04:37,334 --> 00:04:39,869 If you let this hair go frizzy, you will be. 123 00:04:39,936 --> 00:04:41,604 Johns: The great thing about Jada Pinkett's character, 124 00:04:41,672 --> 00:04:42,972 Fish Mooney, 125 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,840 is that it's created completely for this show. 126 00:04:44,908 --> 00:04:46,676 It's a brand-new character. 127 00:04:46,743 --> 00:04:49,045 Smith: Fish Mooney is an up and comer 128 00:04:49,112 --> 00:04:52,181 in the criminal world of Gotham, 129 00:04:52,248 --> 00:04:55,685 and she has a mind to take over Gotham, 130 00:04:55,752 --> 00:04:57,787 so we'll see how that goes. 131 00:04:57,854 --> 00:04:59,354 [Laughs] 132 00:04:59,422 --> 00:05:01,891 There used to be some discipline. 133 00:05:01,958 --> 00:05:04,493 Falcone is getting old and soft. 134 00:05:04,561 --> 00:05:06,395 It's time. 135 00:05:06,462 --> 00:05:08,898 Somebody has to take over. It might as well be me. 136 00:05:08,965 --> 00:05:12,568 She has a kind of ferocity that's natural to her... 137 00:05:12,635 --> 00:05:16,872 a sharpness and an intelligence and a way of looking at people 138 00:05:16,940 --> 00:05:19,675 that is both seductive and devouring. 139 00:05:19,742 --> 00:05:22,077 You don't get a lot of opportunity 140 00:05:22,144 --> 00:05:25,013 to have a playground for your shadow. 141 00:05:25,081 --> 00:05:27,949 That is what makes this character so fun. 142 00:05:28,017 --> 00:05:29,117 Harvey. 143 00:05:29,185 --> 00:05:30,118 [Chuckles] Fish. 144 00:05:30,186 --> 00:05:32,087 Jada Pinkett Smith is creating 145 00:05:32,154 --> 00:05:33,422 a brand-new character 146 00:05:33,489 --> 00:05:35,457 in this beautifully nuanced 147 00:05:35,525 --> 00:05:38,059 and complicated and sexy and dark way. 148 00:05:38,127 --> 00:05:39,294 Who's the friend? 149 00:05:39,362 --> 00:05:40,962 Detective James Gordon, ma'am. 150 00:05:41,030 --> 00:05:42,530 Hmm. 151 00:05:42,598 --> 00:05:44,766 Well, aren't you a cool glass of milk? 152 00:05:44,834 --> 00:05:47,635 The first time that fish meets James Gordon, 153 00:05:47,703 --> 00:05:49,704 she knows right away he's a problem, 154 00:05:49,772 --> 00:05:52,774 and so there's this very interesting tension 155 00:05:52,842 --> 00:05:54,408 between the two of them. 156 00:05:54,476 --> 00:05:57,045 You have a little danger in your eye. 157 00:05:57,113 --> 00:05:59,114 I wonder what you plan to do with that. 158 00:05:59,181 --> 00:06:00,548 You'll have to wait and see. 159 00:06:00,616 --> 00:06:02,250 I hate surprises. 160 00:06:04,653 --> 00:06:05,787 From episode to episode, 161 00:06:05,855 --> 00:06:07,288 we'll be introducing characters 162 00:06:07,356 --> 00:06:09,356 that are sort of legends in this universe, 163 00:06:09,423 --> 00:06:11,258 so you really have to tune in each week 164 00:06:11,325 --> 00:06:12,926 to watch who's gonna show up next. 165 00:06:12,994 --> 00:06:14,361 We might meet a character 166 00:06:14,428 --> 00:06:16,396 who we think is the nicest character in the world, 167 00:06:16,464 --> 00:06:18,331 and they turn out to be the worst villain 168 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:19,900 in all of Gotham city or vice versa. 169 00:06:19,968 --> 00:06:21,368 You know, we might meet somebody 170 00:06:21,435 --> 00:06:22,970 that's completely corrupted, and by the end of this, 171 00:06:23,037 --> 00:06:24,471 but they're one of the most heroic people, 172 00:06:24,538 --> 00:06:25,639 and you can never tell in Gotham. 173 00:06:25,706 --> 00:06:27,040 It changes people. 174 00:06:35,503 --> 00:06:38,005 Woman: The acting was fine, the music was lovely. 175 00:06:38,073 --> 00:06:39,807 Boy: I agree with that. It was kinda lame. 176 00:06:39,875 --> 00:06:42,576 Man: There's no such word as "kinda." It was totally lame. [Laughs] 177 00:06:42,644 --> 00:06:45,346 - You two are so judgment... - Give me your money! 178 00:06:45,413 --> 00:06:46,747 Stay calm, Bruce. 179 00:06:47,949 --> 00:06:48,849 [Grunts] [Gasps] 180 00:06:48,916 --> 00:06:49,883 [Gasps] 181 00:06:54,723 --> 00:06:55,956 McKenzie: I think one of the things 182 00:06:56,023 --> 00:06:57,691 that's interesting about "Gotham" 183 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:00,293 is you're taking the same scene that you've seen before 184 00:07:00,362 --> 00:07:02,996 that starts off the movies with the murder of the waynes, 185 00:07:03,064 --> 00:07:06,165 but instead of jumping forward to when Bruce is now a man, 186 00:07:06,233 --> 00:07:08,434 and he takes on the cape and the mask, 187 00:07:08,502 --> 00:07:10,402 instead, you stay in the present. 188 00:07:10,470 --> 00:07:12,771 Logue: It begins with the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents, 189 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:14,373 finding these bodies in an alley, 190 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,441 and then saying, "where do we go from here?" 191 00:07:16,509 --> 00:07:18,277 The ramifications are deep and wide. 192 00:07:18,345 --> 00:07:20,512 John: It's interesting to watch a young Bruce 193 00:07:20,580 --> 00:07:22,647 and a young Jim Gordon connect so early on. 194 00:07:22,715 --> 00:07:24,884 It's something we've never really seen before, 195 00:07:24,951 --> 00:07:26,952 and that will be explored in "Gotham." 196 00:07:27,020 --> 00:07:29,554 I promise you, I will find the man who did this. 197 00:07:29,622 --> 00:07:31,590 He's also making a promise to himself. 198 00:07:31,657 --> 00:07:33,492 "I will navigate my way through this 199 00:07:33,559 --> 00:07:35,794 and I will do it honorably and with dignity." 200 00:07:35,862 --> 00:07:38,129 I think audiences always seem to gravitate 201 00:07:38,197 --> 00:07:40,532 towards characters with incredible integrity. 202 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,269 One of the most interesting things about James Gordon 203 00:07:44,336 --> 00:07:47,672 is really in his relationship with Bruce Wayne. 204 00:07:47,740 --> 00:07:50,308 The cool thing about the show is it's all the psychology 205 00:07:50,376 --> 00:07:52,143 that goes on behind Bruce Wayne's mind 206 00:07:52,211 --> 00:07:53,845 to become this awesome character, 207 00:07:53,913 --> 00:07:56,647 to become this vigilante that fights crime for Gotham. 208 00:07:56,715 --> 00:07:58,482 Why were you up on the roof? 209 00:07:58,550 --> 00:07:59,951 I'm learning to conquer fear. 210 00:08:00,019 --> 00:08:01,585 Fear doesn't need conquering. 211 00:08:01,653 --> 00:08:02,954 Fear tells you where the edge is. 212 00:08:03,022 --> 00:08:04,488 Fear is a good thing. 213 00:08:04,556 --> 00:08:06,124 And you think I haven't told him that, do you? 214 00:08:06,191 --> 00:08:09,860 Bruce Wayne's relationship with Alfred is very unique. 215 00:08:09,929 --> 00:08:11,829 Even though Alfred is his subordinate, 216 00:08:11,897 --> 00:08:15,499 he has to help guide him into manhood carefully 217 00:08:15,567 --> 00:08:17,001 because he does work for him, 218 00:08:17,069 --> 00:08:20,003 and not only that, but he has such respect for him. 219 00:08:20,071 --> 00:08:22,940 Heller: It's really a story of a young boy 220 00:08:23,007 --> 00:08:25,542 willing himself to become a superhero. 221 00:08:25,609 --> 00:08:26,676 How does he do that? 222 00:08:26,744 --> 00:08:28,545 He's not really sure why he's doing that, 223 00:08:28,612 --> 00:08:29,980 but he is compelled to do it. 224 00:08:30,048 --> 00:08:32,416 I'm going to find out who killed your parents, and why. 225 00:08:32,483 --> 00:08:34,084 I'm glad he's still alive. 226 00:08:34,152 --> 00:08:35,552 I want to see him again. 227 00:08:35,619 --> 00:08:38,188 When we begin the series, Gotham city is struggling. 228 00:08:38,256 --> 00:08:40,057 It's in the midst of a crime wave. 229 00:08:40,124 --> 00:08:41,524 It's battling corruption. 230 00:08:41,592 --> 00:08:44,694 The Waynes were very important people in Gotham city, 231 00:08:44,762 --> 00:08:46,895 so their death creates a power vacuum 232 00:08:46,964 --> 00:08:48,931 that is filled by various people 233 00:08:48,999 --> 00:08:52,435 with rather less philanthropic notions of how to run Gotham. 234 00:08:52,502 --> 00:08:54,203 Logue: With the murder of the Waynes, 235 00:08:54,271 --> 00:08:55,737 they were like the mama, papa bear 236 00:08:55,805 --> 00:08:57,039 that kept everything together, 237 00:08:57,107 --> 00:08:58,975 and now Gotham is in danger 238 00:08:59,042 --> 00:09:02,478 of falling into this abyss of pure chaotic anarchy. 239 00:09:02,545 --> 00:09:04,880 Citizens of Gotham, we will not, 240 00:09:04,948 --> 00:09:07,649 we cannot let these killers and these robbers 241 00:09:07,717 --> 00:09:09,918 and these rapists and these thugs win. 242 00:09:09,986 --> 00:09:11,152 Not on my watch. 243 00:09:11,220 --> 00:09:12,855 There's a lot of tension throughout Gotham. 244 00:09:12,922 --> 00:09:16,224 You've got tension between the Falcone family and the maronis. 245 00:09:16,292 --> 00:09:19,060 You got tension between fish Mooney and the cops. 246 00:09:19,128 --> 00:09:21,763 You've got tension between the Major Crimes Unit 247 00:09:21,831 --> 00:09:24,232 and the Homicide Division in the Gotham P.D. 248 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:25,634 Well, well, well, 249 00:09:25,702 --> 00:09:28,604 if it isn't Montoya and Allen, Major Crimes Unit. 250 00:09:28,671 --> 00:09:29,705 Any leads? 251 00:09:29,772 --> 00:09:31,338 Just getting started. 252 00:09:31,406 --> 00:09:32,573 I'll be straight. 253 00:09:32,641 --> 00:09:34,375 You want us to take it off your hands? 254 00:09:34,442 --> 00:09:36,544 Come on, bullock. You know you're scared of this case. 255 00:09:36,612 --> 00:09:38,546 There's tension kind of all across the city 256 00:09:38,614 --> 00:09:40,515 and between every character that's involved. 257 00:09:40,582 --> 00:09:42,650 Gotham is on a knife edge. 258 00:09:42,718 --> 00:09:45,152 What do you suppose bringing down city hall 259 00:09:45,220 --> 00:09:47,955 and the police force will do, even if you could? 260 00:09:48,023 --> 00:09:50,758 McKenzie: The Falcone crime family runs the city. 261 00:09:50,826 --> 00:09:52,894 They have relationships with everyone 262 00:09:52,961 --> 00:09:55,329 from law enforcement to the judicial branch 263 00:09:55,397 --> 00:09:57,765 to the mayor's office and all the way down. 264 00:09:57,833 --> 00:10:00,901 It's a world in which everyone is on the take, 265 00:10:00,968 --> 00:10:04,871 and the only man who can kind of break that downward spiral 266 00:10:04,939 --> 00:10:07,941 is the last good man in Gotham, James Gordon. 267 00:10:08,009 --> 00:10:10,677 I made a promise to Bruce Wayne, and I can't deliver. 268 00:10:10,745 --> 00:10:12,712 But you will. Maybe I'm out of my depth. 269 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:15,349 Hey. 270 00:10:15,417 --> 00:10:18,352 I very much doubt you're out of your depth. 271 00:10:18,420 --> 00:10:20,421 James and Barbara have a natural 272 00:10:20,488 --> 00:10:22,989 sort of emotional and sexual chemistry. 273 00:10:23,058 --> 00:10:26,459 Seemingly everything is going very, very well. 274 00:10:26,527 --> 00:10:28,661 She's a beautiful woman with a lot of means. 275 00:10:28,728 --> 00:10:30,229 Her father is very wealthy. 276 00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:32,798 He's one of the members of Gotham high society. 277 00:10:32,866 --> 00:10:34,934 But Barbara's hiding things from James, 278 00:10:35,001 --> 00:10:36,869 including secrets about her past. 279 00:10:36,937 --> 00:10:40,039 James Gordon is not a good guy. You deserve better. 280 00:10:40,107 --> 00:10:43,242 James Gordon is the most honest man I've ever met. 281 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:45,010 You sure you know what he's capable of? 282 00:10:45,079 --> 00:10:46,379 Yes, thank you. I know him. 283 00:10:46,447 --> 00:10:49,882 Does he know you like I know you? 284 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:52,385 Their relationship gets compromised very quickly 285 00:10:52,453 --> 00:10:54,987 when Renee Montoya accuses James of being corrupt 286 00:10:55,055 --> 00:10:57,122 and creates a rift in their relationship 287 00:10:57,190 --> 00:10:59,592 that will only widen as the series goes forward. 288 00:10:59,659 --> 00:11:01,627 B., I know when you're lying. 289 00:11:01,695 --> 00:11:03,195 Heller: Gotham is a corrupt place. 290 00:11:03,262 --> 00:11:05,664 It's a place where you can't trust anyone. 291 00:11:05,732 --> 00:11:07,032 You can't trust the mayor, 292 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:08,801 you can't trust the police force. 293 00:11:08,868 --> 00:11:10,669 Smith: Gotham law enforcement 294 00:11:10,737 --> 00:11:14,073 is pretty much under the thumb of the underworld right now, 295 00:11:14,140 --> 00:11:19,010 which is basically run by Falcone at this point in time. 296 00:11:19,078 --> 00:11:22,280 That might change. I'm working hard at it. 297 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:24,416 Heller: There is a split in the underworld 298 00:11:24,484 --> 00:11:27,952 between the Maroni family and the Falcone family, 299 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:30,555 so a character like Penguin, for instance, 300 00:11:30,623 --> 00:11:33,791 is able to come in and play both sides against each other. 301 00:11:33,859 --> 00:11:35,494 Why snitch on your own boss? 302 00:11:35,561 --> 00:11:37,648 I confess that... 303 00:11:37,685 --> 00:11:40,328 that poor orphan boy pricked my conscience. 304 00:11:40,353 --> 00:11:42,054 I've done my civic duty. 305 00:11:42,122 --> 00:11:44,422 Good day to you both. 306 00:11:44,490 --> 00:11:48,193 Oswald starts off as a grunt for Fish Mooney, 307 00:11:48,261 --> 00:11:51,796 and when Bruce Wayne's parents are murdered, 308 00:11:51,864 --> 00:11:55,733 he sees that as an opportunity to make his move, 309 00:11:55,801 --> 00:11:59,337 to finally become someone of power and of status. 310 00:11:59,405 --> 00:12:01,806 He's learned to play good people 311 00:12:01,874 --> 00:12:04,643 off of bad people off of good people. 312 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:05,843 It's fascinating. 313 00:12:05,911 --> 00:12:08,379 It was Gilzean. He's the snitch. 314 00:12:08,446 --> 00:12:09,446 [Clicks tongue] 315 00:12:09,514 --> 00:12:11,182 No. 316 00:12:11,249 --> 00:12:13,584 Gilzean is loyal. So am I. 317 00:12:13,652 --> 00:12:16,520 I would open a vein right here and now if you asked me to. 318 00:12:16,588 --> 00:12:18,556 Go on, then. 319 00:12:18,623 --> 00:12:20,157 Open one. 320 00:12:20,225 --> 00:12:22,959 McKenzie: I think Robin Lord Taylor's portrayal of Penguin 321 00:12:23,027 --> 00:12:27,198 is going to be a real revelation to people because what he's doing is not 322 00:12:27,265 --> 00:12:30,267 just playing sort of a villainous, evil mastermind, 323 00:12:30,335 --> 00:12:32,102 but he's sort of sympathetic. 324 00:12:32,170 --> 00:12:34,637 He's sort of likeable in his sad, pathetic, 325 00:12:34,706 --> 00:12:36,006 sort of henchman way. 326 00:12:36,074 --> 00:12:38,775 Falcone is losing his grip, and his rivals are hungry. 327 00:12:38,843 --> 00:12:40,577 I-I can see it coming. 328 00:12:40,644 --> 00:12:43,213 I'm clever that way, and I can help you. 329 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,614 Shut up! 330 00:12:44,682 --> 00:12:46,549 Smith: I think that these characters 331 00:12:46,617 --> 00:12:49,219 explore different aspects of humanity. 332 00:12:49,286 --> 00:12:51,287 You have the Gordon character 333 00:12:51,355 --> 00:12:54,357 who is, you know, I call him the white night. 334 00:12:54,425 --> 00:12:55,992 And then you have Bullock, 335 00:12:56,060 --> 00:12:58,095 who's kind of walking that line, 336 00:12:58,162 --> 00:13:01,163 that gray area of what is right and what is wrong. 337 00:13:01,232 --> 00:13:05,435 And then you just have your just straight out psychotic villains 338 00:13:05,502 --> 00:13:07,203 like myself and Penguin. 339 00:13:07,271 --> 00:13:09,038 [Laughs] 340 00:13:16,814 --> 00:13:18,949 Gotham in this series is more vibrant 341 00:13:19,017 --> 00:13:22,119 and crowded and archaic than people will be expecting 342 00:13:22,187 --> 00:13:24,755 if they're used to the Gotham of the movies. 343 00:13:24,822 --> 00:13:27,423 Cannon: We talked about a city out of control, 344 00:13:27,491 --> 00:13:29,526 and our fantasy of 1970s New York 345 00:13:29,593 --> 00:13:31,961 in the films of Sidney Lumet and William Friedkin... 346 00:13:32,029 --> 00:13:34,997 graffiti everywhere, cops everywhere, corruption. 347 00:13:35,065 --> 00:13:37,900 New York in the '70s just kept getting worse and worse 348 00:13:37,968 --> 00:13:39,369 and crazier and crazier. 349 00:13:39,436 --> 00:13:41,971 That's the Gotham that we're looking at today. 350 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:43,939 Gelfman: We're not saying that the show 351 00:13:44,007 --> 00:13:45,575 takes place at any particular time. 352 00:13:45,643 --> 00:13:47,777 We're trying to make it sort of a little bit timeless. 353 00:13:47,844 --> 00:13:49,311 You sort of see these cars, 354 00:13:49,379 --> 00:13:51,513 and you imagine a chase scene from "Bullitt" 355 00:13:51,581 --> 00:13:53,049 or from "French connection." 356 00:13:53,116 --> 00:13:55,051 And yet, at the same time, it's present day. 357 00:13:55,118 --> 00:13:56,552 You know, there are cellphones. 358 00:13:56,619 --> 00:13:58,888 It's of our world, but it's still beyond our world. 359 00:13:58,955 --> 00:14:01,724 Kraner: The audience has an image of Gotham already, 360 00:14:01,792 --> 00:14:03,759 so we want to make them feel at home, 361 00:14:03,827 --> 00:14:06,028 but we also want to take a fresh approach. 362 00:14:06,096 --> 00:14:07,396 We do a lot of research. 363 00:14:07,463 --> 00:14:08,863 We look at the comic books, 364 00:14:08,931 --> 00:14:10,299 we look at films together. 365 00:14:10,366 --> 00:14:11,567 Things like "Blade Runner," 366 00:14:11,634 --> 00:14:13,202 some of the classic film noir stuff, 367 00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:15,737 just because they're beautifully designed and they're dark. 368 00:14:15,805 --> 00:14:17,972 And out of that come my sketches, 369 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,140 my models, 370 00:14:19,209 --> 00:14:21,176 and eventually my working drawings 371 00:14:21,244 --> 00:14:24,279 that get developed into actual sets or locations 372 00:14:24,347 --> 00:14:25,413 that we choose 373 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,748 because they fit within the framework 374 00:14:27,816 --> 00:14:30,284 of that world that we're now, at that point, 375 00:14:30,352 --> 00:14:31,952 describing to each other. 376 00:14:32,020 --> 00:14:34,388 I think what I'm most excited for viewers to see 377 00:14:34,456 --> 00:14:35,823 is the police precinct set. 378 00:14:35,890 --> 00:14:37,225 It's very rich and layered, 379 00:14:37,292 --> 00:14:39,159 and I think that's a very exciting set. 380 00:14:39,228 --> 00:14:40,894 Kraner: It's sometimes a long road 381 00:14:40,962 --> 00:14:43,431 from initial conception to completion. 382 00:14:43,498 --> 00:14:45,932 That happened today with our main set... 383 00:14:45,999 --> 00:14:47,267 the precinct set. 384 00:14:47,335 --> 00:14:49,969 We started on that about 10 weeks ago, 385 00:14:50,037 --> 00:14:52,471 and here today, the lights come on 386 00:14:52,539 --> 00:14:55,374 and the smoke rolls in and it looks great. 387 00:14:55,442 --> 00:14:58,076 The biggest challenge is really the amount of work to do 388 00:14:58,144 --> 00:14:59,345 in the time we're given. 389 00:14:59,412 --> 00:15:00,579 It's a two-story set. 390 00:15:00,647 --> 00:15:02,281 There's a lot of rigging involved 391 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:03,815 when you get above one story, 392 00:15:03,883 --> 00:15:06,084 so there's a little more engineering going on. 393 00:15:06,152 --> 00:15:07,786 We're also shooting on rooftops. 394 00:15:07,854 --> 00:15:11,022 That is a certain amount of engineering and safety involved, 395 00:15:11,090 --> 00:15:12,323 as well as the look. 396 00:15:12,391 --> 00:15:15,159 Gotham, to a degree, really is New York, 397 00:15:15,227 --> 00:15:18,796 and New York is Gotham, so we had to shoot in New York. 398 00:15:18,864 --> 00:15:20,331 And the energy of the city, 399 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:22,533 I think it's feeding into the production. 400 00:15:22,601 --> 00:15:24,769 I think it's feeding into our show. 401 00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:26,638 The scenes play out very gritty 402 00:15:26,705 --> 00:15:28,439 and very real on the rooftops. 403 00:15:28,507 --> 00:15:29,907 Stop! 404 00:15:29,975 --> 00:15:32,509 I can't imagine shooting the show anywhere else. 405 00:15:32,577 --> 00:15:34,645 The vibrancy of New York City street life 406 00:15:34,712 --> 00:15:36,313 infuses everything that we do, 407 00:15:36,381 --> 00:15:39,082 and you really feel it when you're out on the streets. 408 00:15:39,150 --> 00:15:42,786 I think the alley fight is gonna be one of my favorites on this. 409 00:15:42,853 --> 00:15:43,787 Ben did a great job. 410 00:15:43,854 --> 00:15:45,322 He picks things up really quick. 411 00:15:45,390 --> 00:15:46,856 He's a great athlete, 412 00:15:46,924 --> 00:15:49,092 and I'm just looking forward to seeing the final product. 413 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Now, it may be 20 degrees 414 00:15:50,628 --> 00:15:52,462 and it may be raining and sleeting, 415 00:15:52,530 --> 00:15:55,165 and wind may be almost literally knocking you over, 416 00:15:55,232 --> 00:15:57,267 but that's the kind of in-your-face world 417 00:15:57,334 --> 00:15:58,768 that we're portraying onscreen, 418 00:15:58,836 --> 00:16:00,937 so we want to take advantage of New York City 419 00:16:01,005 --> 00:16:02,438 and everything it has to offer, 420 00:16:02,506 --> 00:16:03,773 and then we want to enjoy 421 00:16:03,841 --> 00:16:05,809 being inside a temperature-controlled studio, 422 00:16:05,876 --> 00:16:07,210 as well. 423 00:16:07,278 --> 00:16:10,947 Danny Cannon loves to shoot as much as possible, 424 00:16:11,015 --> 00:16:12,648 as we call it, in camera. 425 00:16:12,716 --> 00:16:14,884 It's for real, so visual effects 426 00:16:14,952 --> 00:16:18,053 we're using to extend the world that we create. 427 00:16:18,121 --> 00:16:20,055 Cannon: Visual effects should always be invisible. 428 00:16:20,123 --> 00:16:21,457 Emotionally, they take a lot away 429 00:16:21,525 --> 00:16:23,492 because people know what they're watching isn't real. 430 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,495 One of the things I insisted on at the beginning of this project 431 00:16:26,563 --> 00:16:28,331 was to do our own helicopter shoot 432 00:16:28,398 --> 00:16:30,399 so that we could create the city of Gotham 433 00:16:30,467 --> 00:16:32,435 from something that I shot specifically. 434 00:16:32,502 --> 00:16:34,437 Visual effects then really helped me 435 00:16:34,504 --> 00:16:35,903 by putting foreground in 436 00:16:35,971 --> 00:16:38,640 so it looked like I was coming in between things. 437 00:16:38,708 --> 00:16:40,875 We don't want it to look like New York City, 438 00:16:40,943 --> 00:16:43,277 so what we're doing is we're taking those aerials 439 00:16:43,346 --> 00:16:45,980 and we're adding elements to make it feel like it's Gotham, 440 00:16:46,048 --> 00:16:47,415 so we're adding Gothic spires, 441 00:16:47,483 --> 00:16:49,116 some art deco buildings, 442 00:16:49,184 --> 00:16:50,618 and we're adding a great deal of atmosphere to them. 443 00:16:52,455 --> 00:16:54,556 The pilot episode opens 444 00:16:54,623 --> 00:16:57,624 with a young girl on the rooftop 445 00:16:57,692 --> 00:17:00,928 of a building in downtown Gotham. 446 00:17:00,996 --> 00:17:03,764 We built parts of that roof... gargoyles, 447 00:17:03,832 --> 00:17:07,668 things that are fantasy... that probably wouldn't be there. 448 00:17:07,736 --> 00:17:10,504 It would be extended by visual effects 449 00:17:10,572 --> 00:17:13,074 to create the rest of Gotham around it. 450 00:17:13,141 --> 00:17:15,343 A common misperception among people 451 00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:17,945 is that special effects is visual effects. 452 00:17:18,013 --> 00:17:20,781 Visual effects is anything you treat visually. 453 00:17:20,849 --> 00:17:23,484 Special effects is anything that's done on set practically. 454 00:17:23,551 --> 00:17:27,521 Some of the effects we have every day are some rain effects, 455 00:17:27,589 --> 00:17:30,357 a lot of smoke and atmosphere and some gunfire, 456 00:17:30,425 --> 00:17:33,193 some gun squibs, hits, sparks, water. 457 00:17:34,996 --> 00:17:37,097 We actually had a barge on the water 458 00:17:37,164 --> 00:17:39,832 with a little mini bag to catch the stunt double, 459 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:41,967 and then now we're gonna be over here 460 00:17:42,035 --> 00:17:43,603 doing that underwater scene. 461 00:17:43,670 --> 00:17:47,106 I have to match the color of the river water, 462 00:17:47,173 --> 00:17:49,776 so I'm getting crystal clear pool water delivered, 463 00:17:49,843 --> 00:17:52,978 and I have to make this clear water murky, 464 00:17:53,046 --> 00:17:54,547 but not too murky. 465 00:17:54,615 --> 00:17:56,282 Mahoney: They set up the tank, we set up our green screen, 466 00:17:56,349 --> 00:17:58,703 and it looks great. We've got some temp versions of it 467 00:17:58,704 --> 00:17:59,785 already, and it worked really well. 468 00:18:01,201 --> 00:18:06,038 C.G. and special effects are used just to help us tell the story. 469 00:18:06,106 --> 00:18:07,807 We're shooting in New York, 470 00:18:07,874 --> 00:18:10,609 so we have the beauty and grandeur of New York 471 00:18:10,677 --> 00:18:15,114 as an integral part of the show, and we just turn that notch up to 11. 472 00:18:15,182 --> 00:18:17,783 Johns: It doesn't look like we're just in another city. 473 00:18:17,851 --> 00:18:18,984 It feels like Gotham. 474 00:18:19,052 --> 00:18:20,652 There's a slight twist to it all. 475 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,287 The reality's, like, heightened. 476 00:18:22,355 --> 00:18:23,822 There's a timelessness to it 477 00:18:23,889 --> 00:18:26,224 that Bruno and Danny created that's really magical. 478 00:18:32,786 --> 00:18:34,521 The great thing about Gotham 479 00:18:34,588 --> 00:18:37,357 is it encompasses so many different worlds. 480 00:18:37,424 --> 00:18:39,526 So the tone is both fun and dark. 481 00:18:39,593 --> 00:18:41,093 It's sexy but dangerous. 482 00:18:41,162 --> 00:18:42,695 It's brutal but sensual. 483 00:18:42,763 --> 00:18:45,665 It's a world of craziness and a world of beauty, 484 00:18:45,732 --> 00:18:48,168 and the show encapsulates all of that. 485 00:18:48,235 --> 00:18:52,272 Gotham has always been a city with the dial turned up to 11. 486 00:18:52,339 --> 00:18:54,173 Logue: Every city's got its dark side. 487 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,474 That's what Gotham is, 488 00:18:55,542 --> 00:18:57,009 and we're gonna explore it 489 00:18:57,077 --> 00:18:59,478 through the eyes of detective Jim Gordon, 490 00:18:59,546 --> 00:19:02,648 who becomes a legend in the Gotham city police department. 491 00:19:02,716 --> 00:19:04,583 But this is when he just starts out, 492 00:19:04,651 --> 00:19:06,152 before he realizes the nature 493 00:19:06,219 --> 00:19:08,654 and the weight of the adversary he's up against. 494 00:19:08,722 --> 00:19:12,892 Watching Gotham just tip ever so slightly over the edge 495 00:19:12,959 --> 00:19:15,894 into absolute chaos will be a really fascinating journey. 496 00:19:15,961 --> 00:19:17,195 You've killed people before. 497 00:19:17,262 --> 00:19:18,697 That was war. 498 00:19:18,764 --> 00:19:20,331 This is war! We're at war! 499 00:19:20,399 --> 00:19:22,633 Sometimes in war, you got to do a bad thing to do good, right? 500 00:19:22,702 --> 00:19:25,269 Heller: The series is gonna mix the elements 501 00:19:25,337 --> 00:19:26,738 of a police procedural 502 00:19:26,806 --> 00:19:29,107 with a much more serialized narrative 503 00:19:29,175 --> 00:19:31,843 about the creation of the great DC villains. 504 00:19:31,911 --> 00:19:33,611 Johns: It's not just about the cops, 505 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:35,180 it's not just about Jim Gordon, 506 00:19:35,247 --> 00:19:36,814 but about the madness that springs 507 00:19:36,881 --> 00:19:38,282 from this horrible crime. 508 00:19:38,350 --> 00:19:40,651 People are starting to lose faith in law and order. 509 00:19:40,719 --> 00:19:43,020 Criminals are starting to run the streets. 510 00:19:43,088 --> 00:19:45,889 The craziness and the kind of theatrical projection 511 00:19:45,957 --> 00:19:47,891 that villains have in the DC world 512 00:19:47,959 --> 00:19:50,160 are just starting to show their faces. 513 00:19:50,229 --> 00:19:53,497 I love the mythology of characters, 514 00:19:53,565 --> 00:19:58,202 and so, to be able to see how Penguin and the Riddler 515 00:19:58,269 --> 00:20:01,171 and all these characters got their start 516 00:20:01,239 --> 00:20:03,006 is just really exciting. 517 00:20:03,074 --> 00:20:05,442 We're trying to find the balance 518 00:20:05,509 --> 00:20:09,312 between the fantastic world of the comic books 519 00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:12,750 along with the actual real human pathos. 520 00:20:12,817 --> 00:20:15,619 However dark and scary the world might be right now, 521 00:20:15,686 --> 00:20:17,420 there will be light. 522 00:20:17,488 --> 00:20:20,323 As you continue to peel back the layers, 523 00:20:20,391 --> 00:20:22,559 there's so much mystery there. 524 00:20:22,627 --> 00:20:25,194 You can never be sure who's a friend and who's an enemy. 525 00:20:25,263 --> 00:20:27,497 There's romance, there's action, 526 00:20:27,565 --> 00:20:30,267 there's kind of battle between good and evil. 527 00:20:30,334 --> 00:20:31,735 Stop! Stop or I'll shoot! 528 00:20:31,802 --> 00:20:33,503 [Gunshot] 529 00:20:33,571 --> 00:20:36,439 Heller: It's not a comic-book world. It's a mythic world. 530 00:20:36,507 --> 00:20:37,774 It's a dramatic world 531 00:20:37,841 --> 00:20:40,143 full of adventure and sex and violence and fun. 532 00:20:40,210 --> 00:20:41,678 How you doing? 533 00:20:41,746 --> 00:20:43,044 I been better. 534 00:20:44,547 --> 00:20:46,982 There's a war coming... a terrible war. 535 00:20:47,049 --> 00:20:48,550 There... there will be chaos. 536 00:20:48,618 --> 00:20:50,653 Rivers of blood in the streets. 537 00:20:59,826 --> 00:21:02,757 sync and corrections by madhatters - www.addic7ed.com - 41630

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