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Man: Listen, kid.
You seem like a nice guy,
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but this is not a city
or a job for nice guys.
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"Gotham's" a show very much
about the origin stories
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of some of the great super
villains of the DC mythology.
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McKenzie: So you see a young Catwoman,
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you see a young Poison Ivy,
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a young Penguin, Riddler,
possibly the Joker.
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You see all of these legendary characters,
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but you're seeing them
at a point in their lives
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which has not really been explored before.
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Part of this fun is that
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we don't want to just
regurgitate a comic book.
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We need to elevate it.
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We need to make it something
it's never been before
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while still staying true to the DNA.
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It really pays due homage
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to everything anyone knows
about Gotham in the past
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and gets crazier and crazier.
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sync and corrections by madhatters
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The idea for this show
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came from trying to find a fresh
way into the D.C. mythology,
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and it seemed like the perfect place
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to start was the city of Gotham.
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What the show looks at
is why a town like that
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will eventually need a
vigilante to help them.
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What makes a town so crazy,
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what makes a town so out of control
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that villains begin to wear costumes?
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Heller: The basic premise of the
series is a "what if?" Really.
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It's what if James Gordon
was the rookie detective
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that investigated the death
of Bruce Wayne's parents?
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And once you make that connection
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between those two iconic characters,
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the story kind of rolls on from there.
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Johns: So, you meet this young detective
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who is out to uncover
corruption and do the right thing
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in a city that doesn't
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necessarily want you to do the right thing
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or need you to do the right thing.
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When we start the series,
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James is more or less
straight out of the military.
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Has not been in Gotham in a decade or more.
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He left when he was a kid.
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He's a little bit of a fish out of water.
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He doesn't exactly know
what's going on in Gotham,
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and he's figuring it out moment to moment.
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Everybody down!
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Hold your fire! I got this!
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He'll make mistakes, he'll
trust the wrong people,
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follow his heart, and at times
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that will lead him into
dangerous situations.
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As an actor, that's a very
relatable place to start.
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Ben McKenzie is perfect
for the role of Gordon
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because he has a kind of
natural integrity and strength...
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an old-fashioned set of values
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that really shines through his performance.
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Sir, look at me.
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Not at them, look at me.
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[Grunts]
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My name's Jim.
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Jim Gordon.
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This is one of the iconic figures
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in comic-book law enforcement.
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It's daunting to play
him, to be honest with you.
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It's a little bit scary.
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And yet it's thrilling.
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[Grunting]
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Heller: In this telling
of the Gotham story,
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James Gordon is partnered
with Harvey bullock.
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Johns: Harvey bullock's
a detective in the comics.
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He's never been realized in live action,
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and donal logue is the first
person to ever play him,
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and he's absolutely perfect for the role.
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What the hell are you doing?
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We had the drop on him.
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Yeah, well, he's dropped, isn't he?
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You could've gotten hurt. Rookie mistake.
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Somebody takes a cop's gun, you shoot him.
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That's basic.
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He's been around Gotham for
just years and years and years,
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and so, in order to survive in this city
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he's had to kind of develop
his own brand of morality.
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Hey!
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Huh?
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How you doing?
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James' relationship with
Harvey bullock is very complex.
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Harvey's been whittled down to
expect very little of the city.
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The case is closed. Forget about it.
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Even if the real killers
are still out there?
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Yes.
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This is very perilous
stuff you're messing with.
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Logue: He's introducing Gordon to Gotham,
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and Gotham is nothing like
Gordon's ever seen before.
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When I started work on the show
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and started digging into the origin stories
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of these great villains,
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one of the things I realized was
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there really is not a lot
known about the early history.
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We've never really seen
where the penguin comes from
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or why he does what he does,
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or the Riddler, or even Catwoman.
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Cannon: Who were the
super villains in this city
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and how did they become that way?
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Maybe they were just like me and you.
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Why on earth would that real person
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turn into this crazy psychopath?
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[Laughs]
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These quintessential characters
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that we've all grown up with,
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you finally get to see and understand
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how they ended up where they ended up.
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Anyone ever tell you when you walk,
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you look just like a penguin?
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No. Nobody's ever told me that.
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I love origin stories.
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I love origin stories.
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Being able to see how
these wonderful characters
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that we've all grown up with started
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is so interesting and so much fun.
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Boy?
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Sorry.
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If you let this hair
go frizzy, you will be.
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Johns: The great thing about
Jada Pinkett's character,
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Fish Mooney,
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is that it's created
completely for this show.
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It's a brand-new character.
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Smith: Fish Mooney is an up and comer
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in the criminal world of Gotham,
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and she has a mind to take over Gotham,
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so we'll see how that goes.
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[Laughs]
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There used to be some discipline.
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Falcone is getting old and soft.
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It's time.
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Somebody has to take over.
It might as well be me.
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She has a kind of ferocity
that's natural to her...
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a sharpness and an intelligence
and a way of looking at people
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that is both seductive and devouring.
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You don't get a lot of opportunity
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to have a playground for your shadow.
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That is what makes this character so fun.
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Harvey.
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[Chuckles] Fish.
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Jada Pinkett Smith is creating
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a brand-new character
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in this beautifully nuanced
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and complicated and sexy and dark way.
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Who's the friend?
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Detective James Gordon, ma'am.
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Hmm.
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Well, aren't you a cool glass of milk?
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The first time that
fish meets James Gordon,
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she knows right away he's a problem,
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and so there's this
very interesting tension
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between the two of them.
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You have a little danger in your eye.
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I wonder what you plan to do with that.
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You'll have to wait and see.
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I hate surprises.
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From episode to episode,
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we'll be introducing characters
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that are sort of legends in this universe,
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so you really have to tune in each week
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to watch who's gonna show up next.
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We might meet a character
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who we think is the nicest
character in the world,
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and they turn out to be the worst villain
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in all of Gotham city or vice versa.
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You know, we might meet somebody
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that's completely corrupted,
and by the end of this,
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but they're one of the most heroic people,
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and you can never tell in Gotham.
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It changes people.
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Woman: The acting was
fine, the music was lovely.
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Boy: I agree with that. It was kinda lame.
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Man: There's no such word as "kinda."
It was totally lame. [Laughs]
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- You two are so judgment...
- Give me your money!
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Stay calm, Bruce.
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[Grunts]
[Gasps]
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[Gasps]
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McKenzie: I think one of the things
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that's interesting about "Gotham"
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is you're taking the same
scene that you've seen before
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that starts off the movies
with the murder of the waynes,
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but instead of jumping forward
to when Bruce is now a man,
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and he takes on the cape and the mask,
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instead, you stay in the present.
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Logue: It begins with the
murder of Bruce Wayne's parents,
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finding these bodies in an alley,
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and then saying, "where
do we go from here?"
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The ramifications are deep and wide.
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John: It's interesting
to watch a young Bruce
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and a young Jim Gordon connect so early on.
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It's something we've
never really seen before,
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and that will be explored in "Gotham."
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I promise you, I will
find the man who did this.
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He's also making a promise to himself.
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"I will navigate my way through this
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and I will do it honorably
and with dignity."
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I think audiences always seem to gravitate
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towards characters with
incredible integrity.
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One of the most interesting
things about James Gordon
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is really in his
relationship with Bruce Wayne.
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The cool thing about the show
is it's all the psychology
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that goes on behind Bruce Wayne's mind
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to become this awesome character,
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to become this vigilante
that fights crime for Gotham.
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Why were you up on the roof?
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I'm learning to conquer fear.
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Fear doesn't need conquering.
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Fear tells you where the edge is.
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Fear is a good thing.
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And you think I haven't
told him that, do you?
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Bruce Wayne's relationship
with Alfred is very unique.
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Even though Alfred is his subordinate,
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he has to help guide him
into manhood carefully
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because he does work for him,
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and not only that, but he
has such respect for him.
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Heller: It's really a story of a young boy
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willing himself to become a superhero.
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How does he do that?
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He's not really sure why he's doing that,
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but he is compelled to do it.
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I'm going to find out who
killed your parents, and why.
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I'm glad he's still alive.
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I want to see him again.
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When we begin the series,
Gotham city is struggling.
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It's in the midst of a crime wave.
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It's battling corruption.
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The Waynes were very important
people in Gotham city,
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so their death creates a power vacuum
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that is filled by various people
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with rather less philanthropic
notions of how to run Gotham.
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Logue: With the murder of the Waynes,
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they were like the mama, papa bear
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that kept everything together,
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and now Gotham is in danger
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of falling into this abyss
of pure chaotic anarchy.
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Citizens of Gotham, we will not,
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we cannot let these
killers and these robbers
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and these rapists and these thugs win.
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Not on my watch.
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There's a lot of tension throughout Gotham.
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You've got tension between the
Falcone family and the maronis.
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You got tension between
fish Mooney and the cops.
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You've got tension between
the Major Crimes Unit
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and the Homicide Division
in the Gotham P.D.
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Well, well, well,
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if it isn't Montoya and
Allen, Major Crimes Unit.
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Any leads?
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Just getting started.
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I'll be straight.
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You want us to take it off your hands?
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Come on, bullock. You know
you're scared of this case.
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There's tension kind of all across the city
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and between every
character that's involved.
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Gotham is on a knife edge.
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What do you suppose bringing down city hall
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and the police force will
do, even if you could?
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McKenzie: The Falcone
crime family runs the city.
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They have relationships with everyone
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from law enforcement to the judicial branch
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to the mayor's office and all the way down.
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It's a world in which
everyone is on the take,
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and the only man who can kind
of break that downward spiral
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is the last good man
in Gotham, James Gordon.
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I made a promise to Bruce
Wayne, and I can't deliver.
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But you will. Maybe I'm out of my depth.
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Hey.
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I very much doubt you're out of your depth.
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James and Barbara have a natural
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sort of emotional and sexual chemistry.
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Seemingly everything is
going very, very well.
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She's a beautiful woman
with a lot of means.
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Her father is very wealthy.
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He's one of the members
of Gotham high society.
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But Barbara's hiding things from James,
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including secrets about her past.
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James Gordon is not a good
guy. You deserve better.
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James Gordon is the most
honest man I've ever met.
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You sure you know what he's capable of?
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Yes, thank you. I know him.
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Does he know you like I know you?
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Their relationship gets
compromised very quickly
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when Renee Montoya accuses
James of being corrupt
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and creates a rift in their relationship
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that will only widen as
the series goes forward.
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B., I know when you're lying.
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Heller: Gotham is a corrupt place.
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It's a place where you can't trust anyone.
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You can't trust the mayor,
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you can't trust the police force.
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Smith: Gotham law enforcement
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is pretty much under the thumb
of the underworld right now,
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which is basically run by
Falcone at this point in time.
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That might change. I'm working hard at it.
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Heller: There is a split in the underworld
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between the Maroni family
and the Falcone family,
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so a character like Penguin, for instance,
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is able to come in and play
both sides against each other.
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Why snitch on your own boss?
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I confess that...
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that poor orphan boy pricked my conscience.
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I've done my civic duty.
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Good day to you both.
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Oswald starts off as a
grunt for Fish Mooney,
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and when Bruce Wayne's
parents are murdered,
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he sees that as an
opportunity to make his move,
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to finally become someone
of power and of status.
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He's learned to play good people
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off of bad people off of good people.
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It's fascinating.
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It was Gilzean. He's the snitch.
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[Clicks tongue]
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No.
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Gilzean is loyal.
So am I.
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I would open a vein right here
and now if you asked me to.
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Go on, then.
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Open one.
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McKenzie: I think Robin Lord
Taylor's portrayal of Penguin
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is going to be a real revelation to people
because what he's doing is not
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just playing sort of a
villainous, evil mastermind,
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but he's sort of sympathetic.
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He's sort of likeable in his sad, pathetic,
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sort of henchman way.
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Falcone is losing his grip,
and his rivals are hungry.
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I-I can see it coming.
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I'm clever that way, and I can help you.
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Shut up!
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Smith: I think that these characters
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explore different aspects of humanity.
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You have the Gordon character
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who is, you know, I
call him the white night.
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And then you have Bullock,
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who's kind of walking that line,
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that gray area of what is
right and what is wrong.
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And then you just have your just
straight out psychotic villains
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like myself and Penguin.
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[Laughs]
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Gotham in this series is more vibrant
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and crowded and archaic
than people will be expecting
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if they're used to the
Gotham of the movies.
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Cannon: We talked about
a city out of control,
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and our fantasy of 1970s New York
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in the films of Sidney
Lumet and William Friedkin...
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graffiti everywhere, cops
everywhere, corruption.
347
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New York in the '70s just
kept getting worse and worse
348
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and crazier and crazier.
349
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That's the Gotham that
we're looking at today.
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Gelfman: We're not saying that the show
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takes place at any particular time.
352
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We're trying to make it sort
of a little bit timeless.
353
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You sort of see these cars,
354
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and you imagine a chase
scene from "Bullitt"
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or from "French connection."
356
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And yet, at the same
time, it's present day.
357
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You know, there are cellphones.
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It's of our world, but
it's still beyond our world.
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Kraner: The audience has
an image of Gotham already,
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so we want to make them feel at home,
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but we also want to take a fresh approach.
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We do a lot of research.
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We look at the comic books,
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we look at films together.
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Things like "Blade Runner,"
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some of the classic film noir stuff,
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just because they're beautifully
designed and they're dark.
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And out of that come my sketches,
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my models,
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and eventually my working drawings
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that get developed into
actual sets or locations
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that we choose
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because they fit within the framework
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of that world that
we're now, at that point,
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describing to each other.
376
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I think what I'm most
excited for viewers to see
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is the police precinct set.
378
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It's very rich and layered,
379
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and I think that's a very exciting set.
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Kraner: It's sometimes a long road
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from initial conception to completion.
382
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That happened today with our main set...
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the precinct set.
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We started on that about 10 weeks ago,
385
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and here today, the lights come on
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and the smoke rolls in and it looks great.
387
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The biggest challenge is
really the amount of work to do
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in the time we're given.
389
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It's a two-story set.
390
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There's a lot of rigging involved
391
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when you get above one story,
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so there's a little more
engineering going on.
393
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We're also shooting on rooftops.
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That is a certain amount of
engineering and safety involved,
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as well as the look.
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Gotham, to a degree, really is New York,
397
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and New York is Gotham, so
we had to shoot in New York.
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And the energy of the city,
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I think it's feeding into the production.
400
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I think it's feeding into our show.
401
00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:26,638
The scenes play out very gritty
402
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and very real on the rooftops.
403
00:15:28,507 --> 00:15:29,907
Stop!
404
00:15:29,975 --> 00:15:32,509
I can't imagine shooting
the show anywhere else.
405
00:15:32,577 --> 00:15:34,645
The vibrancy of New York City street life
406
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infuses everything that we do,
407
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and you really feel it when
you're out on the streets.
408
00:15:39,150 --> 00:15:42,786
I think the alley fight is gonna
be one of my favorites on this.
409
00:15:42,853 --> 00:15:43,787
Ben did a great job.
410
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He picks things up really quick.
411
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He's a great athlete,
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and I'm just looking forward
to seeing the final product.
413
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Now, it may be 20 degrees
414
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and it may be raining and sleeting,
415
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and wind may be almost
literally knocking you over,
416
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but that's the kind
of in-your-face world
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that we're portraying onscreen,
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so we want to take
advantage of New York City
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and everything it has to offer,
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and then we want to enjoy
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being inside a
temperature-controlled studio,
422
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as well.
423
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Danny Cannon loves to
shoot as much as possible,
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as we call it, in camera.
425
00:16:12,716 --> 00:16:14,884
It's for real, so visual effects
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we're using to extend
the world that we create.
427
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Cannon: Visual effects
should always be invisible.
428
00:16:20,123 --> 00:16:21,457
Emotionally, they take a lot away
429
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because people know what
they're watching isn't real.
430
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One of the things I insisted on
at the beginning of this project
431
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was to do our own helicopter shoot
432
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so that we could create the city of Gotham
433
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from something that I shot specifically.
434
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Visual effects then really helped me
435
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by putting foreground in
436
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so it looked like I was
coming in between things.
437
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We don't want it to
look like New York City,
438
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so what we're doing is
we're taking those aerials
439
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and we're adding elements to
make it feel like it's Gotham,
440
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so we're adding Gothic spires,
441
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some art deco buildings,
442
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and we're adding a great
deal of atmosphere to them.
443
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The pilot episode opens
444
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with a young girl on the rooftop
445
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of a building in downtown Gotham.
446
00:17:00,996 --> 00:17:03,764
We built parts of that roof... gargoyles,
447
00:17:03,832 --> 00:17:07,668
things that are fantasy...
that probably wouldn't be there.
448
00:17:07,736 --> 00:17:10,504
It would be extended by visual effects
449
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to create the rest of Gotham around it.
450
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A common misperception among people
451
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is that special effects is visual effects.
452
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Visual effects is anything
you treat visually.
453
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Special effects is anything
that's done on set practically.
454
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Some of the effects we have
every day are some rain effects,
455
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a lot of smoke and
atmosphere and some gunfire,
456
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some gun squibs, hits, sparks, water.
457
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We actually had a barge on the water
458
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with a little mini bag
to catch the stunt double,
459
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and then now we're gonna be over here
460
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doing that underwater scene.
461
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I have to match the
color of the river water,
462
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so I'm getting crystal
clear pool water delivered,
463
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and I have to make this clear water murky,
464
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but not too murky.
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Mahoney: They set up the tank,
we set up our green screen,
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and it looks great.
We've got some temp versions of it
467
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already, and it worked really well.
468
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C.G. and special effects are used
just to help us tell the story.
469
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We're shooting in New York,
470
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so we have the beauty
and grandeur of New York
471
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as an integral part of the show,
and we just turn that notch up to 11.
472
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Johns: It doesn't look like
we're just in another city.
473
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It feels like Gotham.
474
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There's a slight twist to it all.
475
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The reality's, like, heightened.
476
00:18:22,355 --> 00:18:23,822
There's a timelessness to it
477
00:18:23,889 --> 00:18:26,224
that Bruno and Danny created
that's really magical.
478
00:18:32,786 --> 00:18:34,521
The great thing about Gotham
479
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is it encompasses so many different worlds.
480
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So the tone is both fun and dark.
481
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It's sexy but dangerous.
482
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It's brutal but sensual.
483
00:18:42,763 --> 00:18:45,665
It's a world of craziness
and a world of beauty,
484
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and the show encapsulates all of that.
485
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Gotham has always been a city
with the dial turned up to 11.
486
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Logue: Every city's got its dark side.
487
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That's what Gotham is,
488
00:18:55,542 --> 00:18:57,009
and we're gonna explore it
489
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through the eyes of detective Jim Gordon,
490
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who becomes a legend in the
Gotham city police department.
491
00:19:02,716 --> 00:19:04,583
But this is when he just starts out,
492
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before he realizes the nature
493
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and the weight of the
adversary he's up against.
494
00:19:08,722 --> 00:19:12,892
Watching Gotham just tip
ever so slightly over the edge
495
00:19:12,959 --> 00:19:15,894
into absolute chaos will be
a really fascinating journey.
496
00:19:15,961 --> 00:19:17,195
You've killed people before.
497
00:19:17,262 --> 00:19:18,697
That was war.
498
00:19:18,764 --> 00:19:20,331
This is war! We're at war!
499
00:19:20,399 --> 00:19:22,633
Sometimes in war, you got to do
a bad thing to do good, right?
500
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Heller: The series is
gonna mix the elements
501
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of a police procedural
502
00:19:26,806 --> 00:19:29,107
with a much more serialized narrative
503
00:19:29,175 --> 00:19:31,843
about the creation of
the great DC villains.
504
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Johns: It's not just about the cops,
505
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it's not just about Jim Gordon,
506
00:19:35,247 --> 00:19:36,814
but about the madness that springs
507
00:19:36,881 --> 00:19:38,282
from this horrible crime.
508
00:19:38,350 --> 00:19:40,651
People are starting to
lose faith in law and order.
509
00:19:40,719 --> 00:19:43,020
Criminals are starting to run the streets.
510
00:19:43,088 --> 00:19:45,889
The craziness and the kind
of theatrical projection
511
00:19:45,957 --> 00:19:47,891
that villains have in the DC world
512
00:19:47,959 --> 00:19:50,160
are just starting to show their faces.
513
00:19:50,229 --> 00:19:53,497
I love the mythology of characters,
514
00:19:53,565 --> 00:19:58,202
and so, to be able to see
how Penguin and the Riddler
515
00:19:58,269 --> 00:20:01,171
and all these characters got their start
516
00:20:01,239 --> 00:20:03,006
is just really exciting.
517
00:20:03,074 --> 00:20:05,442
We're trying to find the balance
518
00:20:05,509 --> 00:20:09,312
between the fantastic
world of the comic books
519
00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:12,750
along with the actual real human pathos.
520
00:20:12,817 --> 00:20:15,619
However dark and scary the
world might be right now,
521
00:20:15,686 --> 00:20:17,420
there will be light.
522
00:20:17,488 --> 00:20:20,323
As you continue to peel back the layers,
523
00:20:20,391 --> 00:20:22,559
there's so much mystery there.
524
00:20:22,627 --> 00:20:25,194
You can never be sure who's
a friend and who's an enemy.
525
00:20:25,263 --> 00:20:27,497
There's romance, there's action,
526
00:20:27,565 --> 00:20:30,267
there's kind of battle
between good and evil.
527
00:20:30,334 --> 00:20:31,735
Stop! Stop or I'll shoot!
528
00:20:31,802 --> 00:20:33,503
[Gunshot]
529
00:20:33,571 --> 00:20:36,439
Heller: It's not a comic-book
world. It's a mythic world.
530
00:20:36,507 --> 00:20:37,774
It's a dramatic world
531
00:20:37,841 --> 00:20:40,143
full of adventure and
sex and violence and fun.
532
00:20:40,210 --> 00:20:41,678
How you doing?
533
00:20:41,746 --> 00:20:43,044
I been better.
534
00:20:44,547 --> 00:20:46,982
There's a war coming... a terrible war.
535
00:20:47,049 --> 00:20:48,550
There... there will be chaos.
536
00:20:48,618 --> 00:20:50,653
Rivers of blood in the streets.
537
00:20:59,826 --> 00:21:02,757
sync and corrections by madhatters
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