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(knocking on door)
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(phone ringing)
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(phone continues ringing)
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REPORTER:
Members of the New Victory Church,
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holding a prayer service here,
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very upset over the murder of
their church leader Jeff Harris,
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and what looks to be
the apparent abduction
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of his wife
Martha Harris.
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Everyone assumes
she was abducted.
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You don't?
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Always look to the nearest
and dearest first.
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In this case...
She's a preacher's wife.
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Nobody wants
to believe she did it.
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Oh, deep in their dark
little hearts,
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they all want to believe
she did it.
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My dad was a preacher.
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Well, then,
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you should know.
People love to see
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the righteous fall from grace.
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What was that like,
being a preacher's kid?
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Tough, living in the fishbowl.
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The worst part was the way
certain church ladies
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would throw themselves
at my father.
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(sighs):
Your mom must have loved that.
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My mom divorced that.
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Well, like
Sister Gertrude
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used to say to us
when we were
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lining up for
the confessional,
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very good people
do very bad things.
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Amen, Sister Gertrude.
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Meaning we don't want anyone
giving Mrs. Harris a free pass
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just because
she's a preacher's wife.
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When she does show up, I want
every avenue explored.
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{i1}If{i} she shows up.
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Maureen, you're
the expert.
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Why don't you drop
by the crime scene,
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and while the cops are
looking for the missing wife,
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you can see if it feels
like an abduction to you.
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Or?
Or if she murdered him.
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The victim was found face
down, single bullet wound
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in the back of the head from
a nine millimeter weapon.
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BLACKWELL:
Preliminary trajectory report
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suggest Pastor Harris
was on his knees.
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Saying his prayers.
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Credit card
applications,
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home equity loan.
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Money's always tight
in a minister's home.
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Only one kid?
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A son, Paul, 22.
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That's unusual
for a minister's family.
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I don't envy him.
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At least I had a lot
of brothers and sisters
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I could point
the finger at.
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DRUMMER:
Will you look at this?
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It's a pizza...
from De Michael's.
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Easy, big fella,
that's evidence.
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What a waste.
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(phone rings)
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Blackwell.
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Thanks.
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Cops found her in a motel
down in Madison, Indiana.
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That's 100 miles away,
down by the Ohio River.
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The Kentucky
state line.
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BLACKWELL:
{i1}They tracked her{i} {i1}vehicle south on I-65{i}
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{i1}from a gas receipt as{i}
{i1}far as Scottsburg.{i}
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{i1}Found her inMadison when she{i}
{i1}turned her cell phone on.{i}
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ANNABETH:
{i1}Any sign she was abducted?{i}
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BLACKWELL:
{i1}Nope, but they found blood{i} {i1}on the driver's seat{i}
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{i1}and steering wheel{i}
{i1}in her minivan.{i}
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State troopers got her
back to Indianapolis
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in record time.
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Ed's had her in there
for about 20 minutes.
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She ask for a lawyer?
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We offered,
she declined.
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Seems like she's still
sort of in shock.
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All right, preacher's kid.
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Ready to go?
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P.K. to those
who know me.
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I don't think
I can survive this.
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Let's just take things
one step at a time.
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That's what Jeff always said.
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That was his outlook.
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And look what he did
for that church.
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One thing at a time.
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Grief or remorse?
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Can't get a read on her.
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You know, I used to love
to sing in my father's choir.
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You did?
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Me, too.
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I, uh, I sang a solo
twice a month.
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A solo?
Mm-hmm.
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Wow.
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I was always too shy
to take a solo.
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Yeah, when it went well, I...
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I felt like I was
talking to God,
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I mean, that's how I saw it.
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I know what you mean.
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Mrs. Harris,
we were hoping
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to hear the story from you.
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I'm not going to be able to tell
you what you want to hear.
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We're only interested
in the truth.
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It's not that simple.
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Mrs. Harris, just tell us
what happened.
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Can we stop
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for just a minute?
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I'd rather... I don't want
to be a problem.
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Uh, could I ask you something?
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Um, you're a minister's
daughter.
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I know you'll understand.
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Go ahead.
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Could I pray? Would you mind?
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Of course.
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Dear Lord, I pray for strength.
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I pray for guidance.
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I pray for forgiveness for
the evil that I have done.
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Sounds like remorse to me.
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I'd call it a confession.
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Blood in the minivan,
blood on her blouse,
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all a match for Pastor Harris.
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Question is, does asking
God to forgive her
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constitute a confession?
I wish she'd said, "God forgive me
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for shooting my husband
in the back of the head,"
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but it does speak
to her state of mind.
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Cops found a receipt in the car
for De Michael's Pizza.
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Puts her back in the house
about the time he was killed.
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Anybody who's begging God
to forgive her is pretty close
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to giving it up
altogether.
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Well, let's keep
the pressure on her.
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Charge her with the murder,
and then maybe
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we can avoid
a trial altogether.
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But we have no weapon yet,
no motive.
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An affair, for instance?
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His or hers?
Either.
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If it turns out
to be that,
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I think we can get her
to the table.
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She's a preacher's wife.
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She won't want
her dirty laundry
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hanging out for everyone
and his brother to see.
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Papers on the preacher's desk
seem to indicate
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some financial distress
in the Harris household.
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MAUREEN:
A couple half-filled out
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credit card applications
and one home equity loan.
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For how much?
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The max, 50 grand.
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Good, let's see what
other doors open up.
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And let's do our homework with
the members of the church, too.
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Preparations for the preacher's
memorial service are underway.
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Might be a good
time to make an appearance
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at the New Victory Church.
We're on it.
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The jury's going to want to know
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what makes
a preacher's wife kill.
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}0<~t} is anywhere
in this state
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where my client can
get a fair trial,
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it certainly isn't Indianapolis.
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Now in light of the grotesque
overexposure in the press...
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The overexposure in the press
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is the only reason
Mr. Hellman has taken this case.
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The prosecution
manipulated my client
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and prevented her from
seeking legal counsel
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in her hour of need
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by pretending to be
spiritually sympathetic.
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Just how did we
manipulate her?
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By getting her to pray with you.
How low can you go?
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That occurred at Mrs. Harris'
request, not ours.
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And then to leak her
anguish, her private prayer
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to the gutter press, who portray
it as a confession,
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it's unconscionable.
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Our office leaked nothing
and he knows it, Your Honor.
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Mr. Hellman, the press coverage
in this case strikes me
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as not sufficient
to taint the jury pool. Your Honor...
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Change of venue is denied.
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Well, then I
respectfully request
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that my client be released
on suitably modest bail.
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Your Honor, Mrs. Harris has
fled this jurisdiction
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once already.
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She will be staying with
members of her church,
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law-abiding people who will
hardly be inclined
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to help her jump bail.
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Your Honor, the defendant
admits fleeing the scene
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without reporting
the crime to the police,
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or summoning help
for the victim.
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Bail is set at $300,000.
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Why don't you just make it
a million, Your Honor?
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Obviously my client can't
raise that kind of money.
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But should she do so,
Mr. Hellman,
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defendant will also submit
to electronic monitoring.
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Yes, Your Honor.
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(gavel bangs)
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You did everything
you could, Mr. Hellman.
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I appreciate it.
Thank you.
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And thanks
for thbooks.
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I'll see you real soon.
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You should occasionally
reconsider your world view
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that every defendant is guilty
until proven innocent.
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That would make me
a defense attorney, Doug.
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I'm a prosecutor.
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I have another theory.
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Somebody leaked,
"God forgive me" to the press.
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Obviously.
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Somebody looking for
a smaller,
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more conservative venue,
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perhaps something more in tune
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with his client's
religious views.
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You certainly have
a vivid imagination.
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You are worth every penny.
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Since I'm doing
this pro bono,
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a penny would
actually be a raise.
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I'd have to give you a refund.
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I appreciate you
coming in, Paul.
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I know Mr. Hellman counseled
you not to speak to us.
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I'm only here to tell you
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my mother belongs
at my father's funeral.
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I understand why you'd
want her to be there. There's no way
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she could have done this.
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She's not a violent person.
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We've never kept guns
in the house.
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Really?
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Why don't you tell me
about your parents?
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Okay.
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Financial problems?
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Were they worried about money?
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I wouldn't know.
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I mean, they never talked
about that sort of thing,
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not in front of me.
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Was your father at home much?
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He was on call 24 hours a day,
seven days a week.
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But she wouldn't have
killed him for that.
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No major problems
with their marriage?
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No serious issues?
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What marriage
doesn't have problems?
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My mother was in it
for the long haul.
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She was a lifer.
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They both were.
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Can she please
go to the funeral?
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I'm sorry.
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Not unless she can make bail.
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I'm the church secretary.
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I know exactly what
this man has accomplished.
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My own son, Todd,
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Brother Jeff
helped him stop drinking.
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Last year, I was diagnosed
with breast cancer.
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I understand.
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Brother Jeff...
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helped me come to terms with it,
got me through the chemo.
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What about
financial difficulties?
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Uh...
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Raising money for
the new church
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was full of
challenges, setbacks.
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I meant their
personal finances.
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Uh, well,
money was always tight.
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Far as I know,
they were all right.
255
00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:25,199
Mrs. Monroe, did you know of
any problems in their marriage?
256
00:11:28,132 --> 00:11:29,900
What are you
insinuating?
257
00:11:29,966 --> 00:11:31,432
Just a routine question;
I have to ask.
258
00:11:31,499 --> 00:11:32,933
Well, if I did,
I sure wouldn't be
259
00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,099
going around talking about it
at a time like this.
260
00:11:36,165 --> 00:11:38,099
So there were problems.
261
00:11:38,165 --> 00:11:39,299
We're all in
262
00:11:39,366 --> 00:11:42,733
a tremendous amount
of pain here.
263
00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:46,833
I'm pr... we're all
praying for Martha.
264
00:11:51,866 --> 00:11:55,266
Been going over
the Harris' finances.
265
00:11:55,332 --> 00:11:56,633
They were doing okay.
266
00:11:56,699 --> 00:11:57,900
Made more than I did.
267
00:11:57,966 --> 00:11:59,165
Found this in
his desk drawer.
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00:11:59,232 --> 00:12:00,833
Thought you might
want to look at it.
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00:12:06,666 --> 00:12:08,866
"On your special day, I'm
sending you some special love.
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00:12:08,933 --> 00:12:10,766
"Spending time with you
271
00:12:10,833 --> 00:12:12,432
"is the most incredible gift
I've ever received.
272
00:12:12,499 --> 00:12:14,833
"You are the light of my life.
Signed..."
273
00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:17,633
"Your love lifts me higher.
Joan."
274
00:12:17,699 --> 00:12:19,065
That's not his wife's name.
275
00:12:19,132 --> 00:12:20,099
It's his secretary,
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00:12:20,165 --> 00:12:21,099
Joan Monroe.
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00:12:21,165 --> 00:12:22,766
Just met her.
278
00:12:22,833 --> 00:12:24,699
Look at all the schoolgirl
hearts she's drawn there.
279
00:12:24,766 --> 00:12:25,799
And the pressed flower?
280
00:12:25,866 --> 00:12:27,332
So over the top.
281
00:12:27,399 --> 00:12:30,533
If the preacher was having
an inappropriate relationship...
282
00:12:30,599 --> 00:12:33,199
I can see how Martha Harris
could get that idea.
283
00:12:33,266 --> 00:12:35,633
And look at this.
284
00:12:35,699 --> 00:12:37,065
The Harris'
phone records.
285
00:12:37,132 --> 00:12:38,666
The last call
286
00:12:38,733 --> 00:12:41,599
made from the Harris' house
was to Joan Monroe's.
287
00:12:41,666 --> 00:12:44,866
Preacher and the secretary spent
all kinds of time together,
288
00:12:44,933 --> 00:12:46,466
raising money,
talking on the phone,
289
00:12:46,533 --> 00:12:47,933
wife finds out...
290
00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,799
I think you should speak
to Joan Monroe again.
291
00:12:49,866 --> 00:12:52,533
And we'll see what Martha Harris
makes of this birthday card.
292
00:12:52,599 --> 00:12:55,399
All righty.
293
00:12:55,466 --> 00:12:58,232
What can you tell us
about Joan Monroe?
294
00:12:58,299 --> 00:13:01,132
Uh, she took over as church
secretary when I stepped down
295
00:13:01,199 --> 00:13:03,000
last year
from the job. She replaced you.
296
00:13:03,065 --> 00:13:05,032
I'd had my turn.
297
00:13:05,099 --> 00:13:08,065
Have you seen this before?
298
00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:12,966
Um, Jeff received literally
299
00:13:13,032 --> 00:13:15,399
a hundred cards
on his birthday.
300
00:13:15,466 --> 00:13:18,299
This particular one
is from Joan Monroe.
301
00:13:18,366 --> 00:13:21,165
ANNABETH:
We were wondering if he may have had
302
00:13:21,232 --> 00:13:24,366
a special relationship
with his secretary.
303
00:13:24,432 --> 00:13:26,432
Special?
304
00:13:26,499 --> 00:13:28,266
Especially close.
305
00:13:28,332 --> 00:13:30,232
So this is a fishing trip, hmm?
306
00:13:30,299 --> 00:13:31,332
Nice day for it.
307
00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:32,833
You're mistaken.
308
00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:35,032
She was not special to him.
309
00:13:35,099 --> 00:13:37,533
So she wasn't having an affair
with your husband?
310
00:13:37,599 --> 00:13:41,666
Joan Monroe is a hardworking
woman who loves the Lord.
311
00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:44,132
My husband appreciated
her dedication.
312
00:13:44,199 --> 00:13:46,000
And I can see
that the two of you
313
00:13:46,065 --> 00:13:47,733
share a similar dedication
to your work,
314
00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:49,866
but I really
do not want to be
315
00:13:49,933 --> 00:13:52,366
thought of as a jealous,
suspicious wife,
316
00:13:52,432 --> 00:13:53,966
which I've never been.
317
00:13:54,032 --> 00:13:55,900
Nor do I want my husband
to be remembered
318
00:13:55,966 --> 00:13:58,199
as involved in any way
with that woman.
319
00:14:02,533 --> 00:14:04,366
"That woman"?
320
00:14:04,432 --> 00:14:06,399
I'm no preacher's kid,
but I don't think
321
00:14:06,466 --> 00:14:07,733
she much likes Joan Monroe.
322
00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:09,299
Oh, you know,
my mother,
323
00:14:09,366 --> 00:14:11,299
she would never say anything bad
about anybody in the church.
324
00:14:11,366 --> 00:14:12,332
Afraid of the backlash?
325
00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:13,332
No, I think
326
00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:14,499
she was worried if she started,
327
00:14:14,566 --> 00:14:15,633
she wouldn't be able to stop.
328
00:14:15,699 --> 00:14:16,633
(bell dings)
329
00:14:16,699 --> 00:14:18,399
(chuckles)
330
00:14:18,466 --> 00:14:21,199
Did you miss your dad
after he moved out?
331
00:14:21,266 --> 00:14:23,065
I didn't have a lot
of time for that.
332
00:14:23,132 --> 00:14:26,266
I had to help my mom raise
my brothers and sisters.
333
00:14:26,332 --> 00:14:28,332
Yeah. I missed him.
334
00:14:32,866 --> 00:14:34,099
Mrs. Monroe.
335
00:14:34,165 --> 00:14:36,000
My partner and I
would like a word with you.
336
00:14:36,065 --> 00:14:37,000
Detective.
337
00:14:37,065 --> 00:14:39,432
I'm in a bit of a rush.
338
00:14:39,499 --> 00:14:41,432
There's still a million
things yet to do.
339
00:14:41,499 --> 00:14:43,699
Then we'll get right to it.
We believe you were having
340
00:14:43,766 --> 00:14:47,000
an inappropriate relationship
with Pastor Harris.
341
00:14:47,065 --> 00:14:48,766
Inappropriate?
342
00:14:48,833 --> 00:14:51,065
You know, extramarital.
343
00:14:53,099 --> 00:14:55,132
Whatever gave you that idea?
344
00:14:55,199 --> 00:14:57,499
We found a birthday card.
345
00:14:57,566 --> 00:15:01,966
There was nothing inappropriate
about that birthday card.
346
00:15:02,032 --> 00:15:04,266
I know where
you're getting this.
347
00:15:04,332 --> 00:15:06,432
It's her, isn't it?
348
00:15:06,499 --> 00:15:07,533
It's Martha.
349
00:15:07,599 --> 00:15:09,232
Poor woman.
350
00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:11,132
She never knew
what a truly
351
00:15:11,199 --> 00:15:13,199
righteous man she had.
352
00:15:15,666 --> 00:15:18,900
Brother Jeff told me
how jealous she was,
353
00:15:18,966 --> 00:15:20,199
because we were spending
354
00:15:20,266 --> 00:15:23,065
so much time together
on the building fund.
355
00:15:23,132 --> 00:15:24,065
We laughed about it.
356
00:15:24,132 --> 00:15:27,199
That's how absurd it was.
357
00:15:27,266 --> 00:15:29,332
I'm sorry,
if there's nothing else,
358
00:15:29,399 --> 00:15:30,699
I really
have to get going.
359
00:15:30,766 --> 00:15:31,933
Let me help
you with that.
360
00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,466
It's fine,
I can manage.
361
00:15:33,533 --> 00:15:35,232
It's no problem.
362
00:15:35,299 --> 00:15:36,699
Oh, it's heavy.
Thank you.
363
00:15:36,766 --> 00:15:39,533
Just put it in
the backseat here.
364
00:15:41,466 --> 00:15:43,933
It's better in the trunk,
365
00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,399
don't you think?
366
00:15:45,466 --> 00:15:47,866
No, the backseat's fine, really.
367
00:15:47,933 --> 00:15:50,533
Let's put it in the trunk.
368
00:15:50,599 --> 00:15:51,833
It's full.
369
00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:53,966
I'm sure we can
squeeze it in.
370
00:15:55,966 --> 00:15:57,533
Mrs. Monroe, open
the trunk, please.
371
00:15:57,599 --> 00:15:58,866
Now.
372
00:16:00,666 --> 00:16:02,132
All right.
373
00:16:09,266 --> 00:16:10,833
Cleaning out the office?
374
00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:14,232
Like I said, lots to do.
375
00:16:16,633 --> 00:16:18,466
She told us everything
right there on the street.
376
00:16:18,533 --> 00:16:19,866
On the day
Pastor Harris died,
377
00:16:19,933 --> 00:16:21,833
the church building fund
disappeared.
378
00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:25,199
All $267,000 wiped out.
379
00:16:25,266 --> 00:16:26,366
Gone?
380
00:16:26,432 --> 00:16:27,466
Internet scam.
381
00:16:27,533 --> 00:16:29,032
Oldest one in the book.
382
00:16:29,099 --> 00:16:30,366
The Nigerian letter.
383
00:16:30,432 --> 00:16:31,799
VEGA:
I got one of those once.
384
00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:33,399
People are still
falling for that?
385
00:16:33,466 --> 00:16:34,966
We've got
Randall looking
386
00:16:35,032 --> 00:16:36,132
at the church computer now,
387
00:16:36,199 --> 00:16:37,933
so we don't have
a full picture yet.
388
00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,766
And the bags
of shredded documents?
389
00:16:39,833 --> 00:16:41,533
Joan Monroe says
she didn't want
390
00:16:41,599 --> 00:16:43,332
the preacher to be remembered
at his funeral
391
00:16:43,399 --> 00:16:45,399
as the guy who
lost the church building fund.
392
00:16:45,466 --> 00:16:47,599
Shredding documents
isn't going to stop anyone
393
00:16:47,666 --> 00:16:49,266
from finding out
the money's missing.
394
00:16:49,332 --> 00:16:52,299
Maybe she was trying to delay
that unpleasant revelation
395
00:16:52,366 --> 00:16:54,065
until after his funeral.
396
00:16:54,132 --> 00:16:55,299
Any chance of
recovering the funds?
397
00:16:55,366 --> 00:16:56,566
Long gone.
398
00:16:56,633 --> 00:16:58,399
International wire transfer
to Africa.
399
00:16:58,466 --> 00:17:00,032
Let's say that
400
00:17:00,099 --> 00:17:02,132
the preacher and his secretary
were having an affair.
401
00:17:02,199 --> 00:17:03,366
That's what
it's looking like.
402
00:17:03,432 --> 00:17:04,966
The preacher loses
403
00:17:05,032 --> 00:17:08,499
$267,000 of the church's money
that the congregation
404
00:17:08,566 --> 00:17:10,766
had worked so
hard to raise.
405
00:17:10,833 --> 00:17:12,499
Another good reason
for his wife to whack him.
406
00:17:12,566 --> 00:17:14,266
On the other hand,
407
00:17:14,332 --> 00:17:17,399
if the secretary was involved
in losing the church's money...
408
00:17:17,466 --> 00:17:21,132
My money is still on the missus,
not the mistress.
409
00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:24,132
}w
410
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,099
w~V{
Hey. Hey.
411
00:17:33,499 --> 00:17:35,967
This is the warrant
to search Joan Monroe's house.
412
00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:38,800
I know this money thing
has come into the case,
413
00:17:38,867 --> 00:17:40,800
but my intuition says
it's still about jealousy.
414
00:17:40,867 --> 00:17:42,399
And losing the money?
415
00:17:42,466 --> 00:17:44,633
Maybe that led to Martha Harris
finding out about the affair.
416
00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:47,100
Well, I just got off the phone
with the church deacons,
417
00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:49,067
and agreed to share
with them what we know
418
00:17:49,133 --> 00:17:50,766
about the loss
of the building fund.
419
00:17:50,833 --> 00:17:53,067
Can you put together some
sort of summary for them? Sure.
420
00:17:53,133 --> 00:17:55,334
I don't think it's going
to make them feel any better
421
00:17:55,399 --> 00:17:57,033
about their pastor though.
Where you going?
422
00:17:57,100 --> 00:17:59,300
To talk to his wife again,
see if she knows anything
423
00:17:59,366 --> 00:18:00,733
about this
missing money.
424
00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,399
If your dad lost every penny
of his church's money...
425
00:18:02,466 --> 00:18:06,566
My mom would have
skinned him alive.
426
00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:13,167
Mrs. Harris,
were you aware that,
427
00:18:13,234 --> 00:18:14,766
the day your
husband was killed,
428
00:18:14,833 --> 00:18:16,733
he had lost the entire
church building fund
429
00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,933
in an Internet scam?
430
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,167
No matter how many times
you ask,
431
00:18:20,234 --> 00:18:22,133
she is not going
to answer that question.
432
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,566
You should know
433
00:18:23,633 --> 00:18:25,167
the church is now forced
to withdraw its offer
434
00:18:25,234 --> 00:18:27,334
to buy the land at the corner
of Washington and Central.
435
00:18:27,399 --> 00:18:29,633
And your source
is this church secretary,
436
00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:32,234
Joan Monroe, right?
Funny how that name
437
00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:33,399
keeps coming up.
438
00:18:33,466 --> 00:18:34,766
She told us some
very interesting things
439
00:18:34,833 --> 00:18:36,733
about Pastor Harris.
No doubt.
440
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,833
And did you manage to keep her
lawyer out of the room, too? We know that
441
00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:42,033
the loss of this money and the
preacher's murder are connected.
442
00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:43,167
Well, if you knew
it for sure,
443
00:18:43,234 --> 00:18:44,666
you wouldn't be
baiting my client.
444
00:18:44,733 --> 00:18:46,967
I don't know what
that woman told you.
445
00:18:47,033 --> 00:18:49,133
You keep calling
her "that woman." Let it go.
446
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,334
She's just trying
to get a rise out of you.
447
00:18:51,399 --> 00:18:53,766
The Nigerians took the money,
not my husband.
448
00:18:55,466 --> 00:18:57,933
I never mentioned Nigerians.
449
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,967
I guess you answered
my question after all.
450
00:19:02,033 --> 00:19:05,499
We're searching Mrs.
Monroe's house as we speak.
451
00:19:08,833 --> 00:19:12,399
Hard time believing people fall
for this Nigerian Internet scam.
452
00:19:12,466 --> 00:19:14,300
They don't fall
for it all at once.
453
00:19:14,366 --> 00:19:16,666
It's one little hook at a time.
454
00:19:16,733 --> 00:19:19,167
Don't forget they were trying to
raise money for the new church.
455
00:19:19,234 --> 00:19:20,499
Yeah. They
got greedy.
456
00:19:20,566 --> 00:19:23,000
That's how people
usually get scammed.
457
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,000
Look at this.
458
00:19:34,067 --> 00:19:36,234
Power tool case?
459
00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,466
If you consider
a nine millimeter
460
00:19:37,533 --> 00:19:38,499
Glock 17 a power tool.
461
00:19:38,566 --> 00:19:40,366
A lot of people would.
462
00:19:40,433 --> 00:19:43,100
It's empty.
463
00:19:45,433 --> 00:19:46,833
The weapon was registered
to Joan Monroe.
464
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:48,566
Anybody else have access
to the gun?
465
00:19:48,633 --> 00:19:50,067
Her husband
died years ago,
466
00:19:50,133 --> 00:19:52,833
but her son Todd lives
with her-- Ray's trying
467
00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:55,633
to locate him now.
You think Joan Monroe did this?
468
00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:58,833
Maybe Pastor Harris insisted
she take the blame
469
00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:01,000
for the Internet scam.
People of faith
470
00:20:01,067 --> 00:20:03,566
are particularly vulnerable
to these sorts of cons.
471
00:20:03,633 --> 00:20:04,967
Because they're
so darn trusting?
472
00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:08,366
You sound dubious.
A little.
473
00:20:08,433 --> 00:20:10,666
I mean, just because you go
to church doesn't make you
474
00:20:10,733 --> 00:20:12,133
some dewy-eyed,
innocent babe in the woods.
475
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,366
I know what you mean,
476
00:20:13,433 --> 00:20:14,733
but I'm just saying,
477
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,366
if you knew
which buttons to push,
478
00:20:16,433 --> 00:20:18,234
a smart operator
can take advantage.
479
00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:19,833
You think that's
what happened here?
480
00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:21,300
Well, Ed's
in with Randal
481
00:20:21,366 --> 00:20:23,933
right now looking
at all the grisly details.
482
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,766
It was a classic affinity scam.
483
00:20:25,833 --> 00:20:27,466
Affinity?
484
00:20:27,533 --> 00:20:29,133
You're a good Christian,
I'm a good Christian--
485
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,399
you can trust me.
486
00:20:30,466 --> 00:20:31,633
See, my antennae's up
right there.
487
00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:32,933
Most people's
would be,
488
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,833
but these guys
are sophisticated.
489
00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:37,033
They personalize things, like,
490
00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:38,967
"Pastor Harris,
we've heard about your
491
00:20:39,033 --> 00:20:40,399
"church building project.
Here in Nigeria,
492
00:20:40,466 --> 00:20:43,033
"we dream of building
a hospital for the poor.
493
00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,033
Perhaps we can help
one another."
494
00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:46,600
So it's a win-win.
495
00:20:46,666 --> 00:20:48,366
We get our hospital,
you get your church. Mm-hmm.
496
00:20:48,433 --> 00:20:49,800
So what do they want help with?
497
00:20:49,867 --> 00:20:52,600
Getting $15 million
out of their country.
498
00:20:52,666 --> 00:20:54,733
All they need
499
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,300
is an American bank account
to deposit the $15 million in.
500
00:20:57,366 --> 00:20:58,533
Why?
501
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,267
Because they claim
some corrupt
502
00:21:00,334 --> 00:21:02,267
Nigerian officials
are going to steal it.
503
00:21:02,334 --> 00:21:06,067
Okay. And in exchange
for doing this good deed?
504
00:21:06,133 --> 00:21:08,700
30% of the $15 million.
505
00:21:08,766 --> 00:21:12,200
So Pastor Harris gives them
the account number
506
00:21:12,267 --> 00:21:14,933
and, the next thing you know,
it's bye-bye building fund.
507
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,234
So long, farewell, adios.
508
00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:17,900
But why not open up
a separate account?
509
00:21:17,967 --> 00:21:20,399
Why give up
the building account?
510
00:21:20,466 --> 00:21:21,900
According to church bylaws,
511
00:21:21,967 --> 00:21:23,633
that would have required
approval from the deacons.
512
00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:24,833
And he didn't want them to know?
513
00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:25,867
Maybe he thought
they would
514
00:21:25,933 --> 00:21:27,366
nix the deal,
too risky.
515
00:21:27,433 --> 00:21:28,766
They'd have been right.
516
00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:30,334
How'd the Nigerians
convince them
517
00:21:30,399 --> 00:21:32,499
they had $15 million
in the first place?
518
00:21:32,566 --> 00:21:37,399
Yeah. This is an attachment
to an e-mail dated
519
00:21:37,466 --> 00:21:39,933
two days before
the pastor was killed.
520
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,900
DRUMMER:
That's a lot of money.
521
00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:46,733
Enough to make people do
some crazy-ass things.
522
00:21:49,399 --> 00:21:51,466
We've been assuming
the loss of the building fund
523
00:21:51,533 --> 00:21:53,000
was somehow tied to the murder.
524
00:21:53,067 --> 00:21:54,334
but before that money
disappeared,
525
00:21:54,399 --> 00:21:55,967
the preacher, Joan Monroe,
526
00:21:56,033 --> 00:21:57,200
and maybe even his wife,
527
00:21:57,267 --> 00:21:59,133
thought millions of dollars
were on the way.
528
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,967
The preacher's end was
30% of $15 million--
529
00:22:01,033 --> 00:22:02,300
four and a half mil.
530
00:22:02,366 --> 00:22:03,533
You're saying the
preacher was killed
531
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,833
by somebody trying
to get their hands
532
00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:06,100
on that money, even
though it never existed?
533
00:22:06,167 --> 00:22:07,566
Well, the preacher
believed it existed,
534
00:22:07,633 --> 00:22:09,033
and he believed
it was coming.
535
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:10,466
And these people
believed the preacher,
536
00:22:10,533 --> 00:22:12,167
so in their mind...
It was coming.
537
00:22:12,234 --> 00:22:13,366
Money in the bank.
538
00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:15,466
We've located Joan Monroe's son.
539
00:22:15,533 --> 00:22:18,067
{i1}Cops in Ohio caught him{i}
{i1}switching a license plate.{i}
540
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,733
{i1}They found{i}
{i1}a nine-millimeter Glock 17.{i}
541
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,533
His mama's gun.
542
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,300
Excuse me while I get
the extradition ball rolling.
543
00:22:27,366 --> 00:22:28,700
DRUMMER:
{i1}You were a member{i}
544
00:22:28,766 --> 00:22:30,267
of the New Victory
Church, correct?
545
00:22:30,334 --> 00:22:32,100
I played drums in the band there
546
00:22:32,167 --> 00:22:33,800
three times a week,
that's correct.
547
00:22:33,867 --> 00:22:35,633
So what were you doing in Ohio
548
00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:37,700
switching the license plates
on your car?
549
00:22:37,766 --> 00:22:39,900
I was going to visit
a buddy of mine
550
00:22:39,967 --> 00:22:41,633
and I noticed
my tags were expired,
551
00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:44,334
and I was, like,
I don't want to get pulled over
552
00:22:44,399 --> 00:22:46,234
because I have
a lot of parking tickets.
553
00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:47,533
I know it's pretty stupid.
554
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600
Where'd you get
the stolen plates?
555
00:22:49,666 --> 00:22:52,033
I had 'em in my garage.
556
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:54,334
Not the sharpest knife
in the drawer.
557
00:22:54,399 --> 00:22:56,867
Or that's what
he wants you to think.
558
00:22:56,933 --> 00:22:59,399
Let's talk about
your mother's gun--
559
00:22:59,466 --> 00:23:03,433
the murder weapon-- which
was found in {i1}your{i} car.
560
00:23:03,499 --> 00:23:06,499
I didn't have anything to do
with Pastor Harris's murder.
561
00:23:06,566 --> 00:23:08,533
Your mother know you
took off with her gun?
562
00:23:10,433 --> 00:23:12,766
She give it to you
to get rid of?
563
00:23:12,833 --> 00:23:15,000
My mom had nothing
to do with it, either.
564
00:23:15,067 --> 00:23:16,600
Then who did?
565
00:23:16,666 --> 00:23:19,766
You've already got her.
566
00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:22,234
It was Martha-- she did it.
567
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:24,200
The preacher's wife.
568
00:23:24,267 --> 00:23:27,067
How do you know that?
569
00:23:30,833 --> 00:23:33,833
Because I was sleeping with her.
570
00:23:41,666 --> 00:23:42,933
Talk to me about Todd.
571
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,334
Alcoholic,
couldn't hold a job.
572
00:23:44,399 --> 00:23:46,000
Pastor Harris got him
into rehab,
573
00:23:46,067 --> 00:23:48,267
found him a job
in a shoe store
574
00:23:48,334 --> 00:23:50,566
and let him play
in the church band.
575
00:23:50,633 --> 00:23:52,867
So naturally he killed the man
who saved his life.
576
00:23:52,933 --> 00:23:55,566
Some people don't know
how to receive. Something about
577
00:23:55,633 --> 00:23:57,267
a serpent's tooth
and an ungrateful child?
578
00:23:57,334 --> 00:23:58,700
What about the affair?
579
00:23:58,766 --> 00:24:00,700
The motel in Madison
where Mrs. Harris was arrested.
580
00:24:00,766 --> 00:24:02,633
Todd said that's
where they would meet.
581
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:06,566
They drive 200 miles round-trip
to conduct the affair?
582
00:24:06,633 --> 00:24:08,733
I believe it--
she really wanted to make sure
583
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,666
no one from her church
would find out.
584
00:24:10,733 --> 00:24:12,300
Hotel record--
Todd Monroe, every Thursday
585
00:24:12,366 --> 00:24:14,700
around 3:00 p.m.,
going back at least
586
00:24:14,766 --> 00:24:17,600
a couple of months.
Confirms the affair for me.
587
00:24:17,666 --> 00:24:19,900
So Todd Monroe is saying
Martha Harris did it.
588
00:24:19,967 --> 00:24:21,167
Is he saying why?
589
00:24:21,234 --> 00:24:23,267
He don't want
to talk about that.
590
00:24:23,334 --> 00:24:25,334
Yeah, but when we told him
we knew everything
591
00:24:25,399 --> 00:24:27,433
about the Nigerian scam,
he immediately said Mrs. Harris
592
00:24:27,499 --> 00:24:30,033
killed her husband because she
was after the $4 1/2 million.
593
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,399
But there never was any money.
594
00:24:32,466 --> 00:24:34,700
That doesn't matter--
they thought there was.
595
00:24:34,766 --> 00:24:36,900
But Todd's the one
with the gun in his car.
596
00:24:36,967 --> 00:24:39,133
Isn't he
the likely shooter here? I would think so,
597
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,566
but we can't place him
at the scene.
598
00:24:41,633 --> 00:24:42,867
Now, if Martha's affair
with Todd
599
00:24:42,933 --> 00:24:44,366
were made public,
a much younger man,
600
00:24:44,433 --> 00:24:46,533
and when we tell
her that Todd
601
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,867
is telling us
that she killed her husband...
602
00:24:48,933 --> 00:24:50,433
She'd feel betrayed.
603
00:24:50,499 --> 00:24:52,700
She might even turn on him.
604
00:24:52,766 --> 00:24:55,633
I'm counting on the two of you
to make her feel really bad.
605
00:24:57,334 --> 00:24:59,399
HELLMAN:
{i1}These frequent visits{i}
606
00:24:59,466 --> 00:25:01,800
with my client seem
to indicate a certain lack
607
00:25:01,867 --> 00:25:04,267
of confidence
in your case against her.
608
00:25:04,334 --> 00:25:05,867
We've arrested
Todd Monroe
609
00:25:05,933 --> 00:25:08,300
in connection with
Pastor Harris's murder.
610
00:25:08,366 --> 00:25:10,234
As I said.
611
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:14,766
He told us he and Mrs. Harris
met regularly at a motel
612
00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:16,433
in Madison, Indiana.
613
00:25:16,499 --> 00:25:17,733
His story checks out.
614
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,900
If we go to trial,
Mrs. Harris,
615
00:25:19,967 --> 00:25:22,600
everyone will hear
about the affair.
616
00:25:24,666 --> 00:25:27,766
He told us you killed
your husband for the money.
617
00:25:27,833 --> 00:25:30,900
My husband and I
didn't have any money. Mrs. Harris,
618
00:25:30,967 --> 00:25:32,800
Todd Monroe said
you killed your husband
619
00:25:32,867 --> 00:25:34,766
because you wanted
the millions of dollars
620
00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:36,633
he was expecting from Nigeria.
621
00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:38,633
Nobody had millions of dollars.
622
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,067
I don't know what Todd
623
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:42,000
is talking about.
624
00:25:42,067 --> 00:25:43,800
He killed my husband
because of {i1}me.{i}
625
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:47,133
Martha,
626
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,300
as your attorney,
if you have
627
00:25:49,366 --> 00:25:54,466
anything to say to these ladies,
now would be a good moment.
628
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,533
It wasn't
a normal Saturday night.
629
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,733
How so?
630
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,533
My husband was very upset
about something,
631
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,334
and I thought he had found out
about me and Todd.
632
00:26:10,399 --> 00:26:12,833
And I said,
"Jeff, you have to tell me
633
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:14,200
what's going on."
634
00:26:14,267 --> 00:26:15,867
He said he had done
635
00:26:15,933 --> 00:26:17,733
a stupid, stupid thing.
636
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,133
He had trusted somebody
on the Internet
637
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,499
and had lost
the building fund money.
638
00:26:22,566 --> 00:26:25,967
He said the people in the church
would never forgive him.
639
00:26:26,033 --> 00:26:28,300
'd go to prison.
640
00:26:28,366 --> 00:26:31,000
And he told me
I should leave him.
641
00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:33,900
And what did you say?
I said {i1}he{i} wasn't
642
00:26:33,967 --> 00:26:36,833
the horrible person,
{i1}I{i} was the horrible person.
643
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:39,167
{i1}I{i} was the one
having the affair.
644
00:26:39,234 --> 00:26:42,000
You confessed
your affair to him?
645
00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:45,366
And we talked and prayed...
646
00:26:45,433 --> 00:26:47,833
and Jeff forgave me.
647
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,234
He just forgave me.
648
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:53,833
I know this is going
to sound strange,
649
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,800
but it was the closest
we'd been in years.
650
00:27:02,133 --> 00:27:04,067
And then he called Todd.
651
00:27:04,133 --> 00:27:06,267
Could you hear
652
00:27:06,334 --> 00:27:08,733
what he said to him?
He said, "I know
653
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,867
about everything," and to "Come
over right now, Todd."
654
00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:17,200
And when he hung up the phone,
he asked me to leave
655
00:27:17,267 --> 00:27:20,533
and to come back
in a couple hours.
656
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,133
The last thing that my husband
ever said to me in this world
657
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,300
was to bless me for having
the courage to tell the truth.
658
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,933
And when I came home...
659
00:27:39,533 --> 00:27:40,900
Your husband died
660
00:27:40,967 --> 00:27:43,933
when he confronted Todd Monroe
over the affair.
661
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,300
This is God's judgment on me.
662
00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:50,666
(exhales)
663
00:27:50,733 --> 00:27:52,267
Ladies.
664
00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:58,766
She needs to agree to tell
this story to a jury.
665
00:27:58,833 --> 00:28:01,800
And you will dismiss
all charges against her.
666
00:28:03,566 --> 00:28:05,967
We will dismiss the charges.
667
00:28:14,566 --> 00:28:17,133
I have to talk about everything?
668
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,733
Everything.
669
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,399
How your husband
telling you
670
00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:23,334
he lost the church's
money led you
671
00:28:23,399 --> 00:28:24,933
to confess
your affair with Todd,
672
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,933
which led to the fatal
confrontation
673
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,466
between the two of them.
674
00:28:28,533 --> 00:28:30,334
And you'll need to tell
the jury just how
675
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:33,067
the affair started.
676
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:36,800
When my son Paul
went to college,
677
00:28:36,867 --> 00:28:38,167
Jeff threw himself full-time
678
00:28:38,234 --> 00:28:40,433
into raising money
for the church.
679
00:28:40,499 --> 00:28:43,533
I felt like he was avoiding me.
680
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,666
I was so lonely.
681
00:28:45,733 --> 00:28:47,100
That sounds tough.
682
00:28:47,167 --> 00:28:48,867
And then my
husband decided
683
00:28:48,933 --> 00:28:51,600
to introduce a more
contemporary service
684
00:28:51,666 --> 00:28:54,267
to attract new membership,
and he told me
685
00:28:54,334 --> 00:28:57,600
that nobody really liked
the music we had always sung.
686
00:28:57,666 --> 00:29:00,800
So I sang my last solo,
the last one that
687
00:29:00,867 --> 00:29:03,000
I would ever sing in my life,
688
00:29:03,067 --> 00:29:06,466
and who was the only person
who came up to me after?
689
00:29:06,533 --> 00:29:08,433
Todd Monroe.
690
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,000
He said that I had
the most beautiful voice
691
00:29:12,067 --> 00:29:13,600
God had ever heard.
692
00:29:13,666 --> 00:29:17,733
It was the kindest thing that
anyone had ever said to me.
693
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,033
You need to understand
that he was a listener.
694
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,900
I mean, everybody
listens to a preacher,
695
00:29:22,967 --> 00:29:26,100
but nobody listens
to a preacher's wife.
696
00:29:26,167 --> 00:29:27,766
Whenever I was with him,
697
00:29:27,833 --> 00:29:32,267
he would always say,
"Tell me everything."
698
00:29:32,334 --> 00:29:35,033
He listened to you.
699
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:38,334
He listened.
700
00:29:40,234 --> 00:29:41,334
MARTHA:
{i1}Jeff said, "I know,{i}
701
00:29:41,399 --> 00:29:42,833
I know about everything,"
702
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,566
and then he asked Todd
to come over and talk.
703
00:29:45,633 --> 00:29:47,867
I left, and when I came
back, Jeff was dead.
704
00:29:47,933 --> 00:29:50,067
ANNABETH:
We would like
705
00:29:50,133 --> 00:29:53,733
to enter into evidence
Pastor Harris's phone records.
706
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,600
Last phone call he made was
to Joan Monroe's house,
707
00:29:56,666 --> 00:29:57,833
where the defendant
708
00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:00,133
was residing.
709
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,533
Mrs. Harris,
one last question.
710
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,334
Why didn't you call 911 when
you found your husband's body?
711
00:30:07,633 --> 00:30:10,267
I felt responsible,
and I was scared
712
00:30:10,334 --> 00:30:12,700
that everything about
the affair would come out.
713
00:30:12,766 --> 00:30:15,133
I didn't know what to do.
714
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,566
And then I kept thinking,
if I hadn't been unfaithful
715
00:30:19,633 --> 00:30:22,399
(crying softly):
Jeff would still be alive.
716
00:30:22,466 --> 00:30:24,733
ANNABETH:
No further questions,
717
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,800
Your Honor.
718
00:30:29,067 --> 00:30:32,733
I just have a few questions,
Mrs. Harris.
719
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,366
You were at one time
the church secretary
720
00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:37,666
for New Victory Evangelical,
were you not?
721
00:30:37,733 --> 00:30:40,499
Uh, briefly last year.
So you have a working knowledge
722
00:30:40,566 --> 00:30:42,167
of the church's finances--
723
00:30:42,234 --> 00:30:43,666
bank accounts, passwords,
724
00:30:43,733 --> 00:30:45,800
user names?
I did.
725
00:30:45,867 --> 00:30:47,566
Your Honor,
I would like
726
00:30:47,633 --> 00:30:49,533
to read this piece
of correspondence
727
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,433
from the Southern Guarantee
Bank of Costa Rica.
728
00:30:52,499 --> 00:30:55,167
Objection, Your Honor-- we are
unaware of any such letter.
729
00:30:55,234 --> 00:30:57,399
That's 'cause it just
arrived in the mail.
730
00:30:57,466 --> 00:30:59,433
Counselors, to the bench.
731
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,433
ANNABETH:
Are we just supposed to take this at face value, Your Honor?
732
00:31:05,499 --> 00:31:07,433
We have no way
of authenticating
733
00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:09,600
these documents.
I agree, Miss Chase.
734
00:31:09,666 --> 00:31:11,600
This is, uh,
quite a development.
735
00:31:11,666 --> 00:31:13,600
I suggest
we take a recess
736
00:31:13,666 --> 00:31:15,566
and convene in my chambers.
737
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,666
"Dear Mrs. Harris,
738
00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:24,800
"thank you for your recent
deposit of $267,000.38,
739
00:31:24,867 --> 00:31:26,466
USD."
740
00:31:26,533 --> 00:31:31,133
Mrs. Harris, how much money
was in the church building fund
741
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,933
when it was
wiped out? $267,000.
742
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,334
Did you take
that money
743
00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:36,733
and place it in an
offshore account?
744
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,466
I don't even know what
an offshore account is.
745
00:31:40,533 --> 00:31:42,600
Well, Southern Guarantee Bank
seems to be familiar with {i1}you.{i}
746
00:31:42,666 --> 00:31:45,234
And I'm wondering, Annabeth,
how do you explain
747
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,967
this post office box
she shares with my client?
748
00:31:49,967 --> 00:31:54,766
Uh, Mrs. Harris,
is this document accurate?
749
00:31:54,833 --> 00:31:58,600
That's my signature,
but I didn't sign that.
750
00:31:58,666 --> 00:32:01,234
I can see
how this must be
751
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:03,300
very upsetting
to everyone,
752
00:32:03,366 --> 00:32:07,499
but I have to tell you,
I'm not upset, I'm relieved.
753
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:11,466
You're relieved?
The money's been found
754
00:32:11,533 --> 00:32:13,700
The church can get
the money back.
755
00:32:13,766 --> 00:32:15,633
It's what Jeff
would have wanted.
756
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:17,600
But everyone thinks
you took it.
757
00:32:17,666 --> 00:32:20,700
God's grace is
like that sometimes.
758
00:32:20,766 --> 00:32:22,133
It doesn't matter.
759
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,533
As long as the church
gets the money back.
760
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,000
In light of these revelations,
do the people wish
761
00:32:29,067 --> 00:32:32,033
to amend their case
against Todd Monroe?
762
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,833
Your Honor,
we need time to investigate
763
00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:35,133
and authenticate
these documents.
764
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,234
You have 36 hours, Ms. Chase.
765
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:40,133
At that time, I'll hear
from counsel again
766
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,466
and if not satisfied,
767
00:32:41,533 --> 00:32:43,566
I will entertain
a motion to amend
768
00:32:43,633 --> 00:32:45,800
i can dismss the charge against mr. ...
769
00:32:50,716 --> 00:32:52,517
not going to think she stole
the building fund
770
00:32:52,584 --> 00:32:54,383
and then killed her husband
to keep him quiet.
771
00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:55,783
If we can link
772
00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:57,150
Todd Monroe
to the offshore accounts...
773
00:32:57,217 --> 00:32:58,350
The whole point
774
00:32:58,417 --> 00:32:59,450
of an offshore account
is to put it
775
00:32:59,517 --> 00:33:01,016
out of reach of U.S. authority.
776
00:33:01,083 --> 00:33:04,883
If Todd Monroe managed to steal
the church building fund...
777
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:07,383
It would have to be done
electronically,
778
00:33:07,450 --> 00:33:09,016
and there's nothing like that
on his computer.
779
00:33:09,083 --> 00:33:10,716
What about his mom's computer?
780
00:33:10,783 --> 00:33:12,383
Nothing of his there, either.
781
00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:14,116
Go over everything again--
782
00:33:14,183 --> 00:33:16,217
his car, his laundry,
his drum set.
783
00:33:16,283 --> 00:33:19,250
If you come up blank, we're
going to have to make a deal.
784
00:33:23,217 --> 00:33:26,950
There's nothing here
that wasn't here before.
785
00:33:27,016 --> 00:33:28,983
It's Joe who gave up
the sauce,
786
00:33:29,050 --> 00:33:30,783
but he's sure loving the lattes.
787
00:33:30,849 --> 00:33:32,083
That's what they say.
788
00:33:32,150 --> 00:33:35,050
Go on the wagon,
you get hooked on caffeine.
789
00:33:35,116 --> 00:33:37,417
What's with the receipts?
790
00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:38,983
Chocolate donuts tax
deductible or something?
791
00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:40,716
I wish.
792
00:33:40,783 --> 00:33:41,716
Here's another one.
793
00:33:41,783 --> 00:33:46,016
"Greenville, Ohio."
794
00:33:46,083 --> 00:33:47,617
That's where he was
picked up, remember?
795
00:33:47,684 --> 00:33:50,016
When was he picked up?
796
00:33:50,083 --> 00:33:52,083
The exact day? I don't know.
797
00:33:52,150 --> 00:33:54,617
This is dated two months ago,
and it's for 30 bucks.
798
00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:57,749
Who spends 30 bucks on coffee?
799
00:33:57,816 --> 00:34:00,849
Somebody buying
computer time, maybe?
800
00:34:00,916 --> 00:34:02,016
Internet cafe?
801
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:05,250
Our boy drives
out of state to go online.
802
00:34:05,317 --> 00:34:07,517
If we're lucky.
803
00:34:07,584 --> 00:34:09,350
Greenville.
804
00:34:09,417 --> 00:34:10,350
That's an hour plus.
805
00:34:10,417 --> 00:34:12,183
Depends who's driving.
806
00:34:13,517 --> 00:34:15,050
The coffee shop owner
recognized him.
807
00:34:15,116 --> 00:34:17,483
Said he came in every couple of
days, sat at the same station.
808
00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:19,217
Since 9-11,
they back up everything
809
00:34:19,283 --> 00:34:20,849
their customers do online.
810
00:34:20,916 --> 00:34:23,883
These are messages and e-mail
attachments from the Nigerians.
811
00:34:23,950 --> 00:34:25,450
We've seen all these before.
812
00:34:25,517 --> 00:34:26,483
You have,
813
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:28,816
except they ain't from Nigeria.
814
00:34:28,883 --> 00:34:31,050
I don't understand.
815
00:34:31,116 --> 00:34:33,183
Well, tracking
Todd Monroe's online trail,
816
00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:35,116
we came to a remote
storage service
817
00:34:35,183 --> 00:34:36,916
where he kept
hundreds of documents
818
00:34:36,983 --> 00:34:38,450
from various Nigerian
e-mail scams.
819
00:34:38,517 --> 00:34:41,950
This folder is documents
820
00:34:42,016 --> 00:34:45,383
he collected by responding
to actual scammers online.
821
00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:47,283
And this folder
is the same content,
822
00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:48,783
but with key details altered,
823
00:34:48,849 --> 00:34:52,183
like Pastor Harris' name,
the church, et cetera.
824
00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:55,050
So the money didn't
disappear to Nigeria?
825
00:34:55,116 --> 00:34:56,916
He just bounced it around
different proxy servers
826
00:34:56,983 --> 00:34:58,250
to make it look that way.
827
00:34:58,317 --> 00:35:00,350
You're saying he created
this whole thing?
828
00:35:00,417 --> 00:35:02,250
There never were any Nigerians.
829
00:35:02,317 --> 00:35:03,749
It was Todd all along.
830
00:35:04,783 --> 00:35:06,783
(sighs)
831
00:35:10,116 --> 00:35:11,883
Because he knew Pastor Harris
personally,
832
00:35:11,950 --> 00:35:14,083
Todd Monroe was able to tailor
these documents
833
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:16,183
to an extraordinary degree.
834
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:17,617
For instance?
835
00:35:17,684 --> 00:35:21,317
For instance, in this e-mail
he claimed a child
836
00:35:21,383 --> 00:35:22,950
in his fictitious
Nigerian church
837
00:35:23,016 --> 00:35:25,983
was healed from cancer
after intensive prayer.
838
00:35:26,050 --> 00:35:29,116
To which Pastor Harris
responded, "This is a miracle.
839
00:35:29,183 --> 00:35:30,617
"Just this past week,
840
00:35:30,684 --> 00:35:32,083
"my secretary Joan Monroe's
breast cancer
841
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:33,250
"went into remission.
842
00:35:33,317 --> 00:35:35,450
God answers all our prayers."
843
00:35:35,517 --> 00:35:37,584
He played on his own
mother's cancer?
844
00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:40,083
It's all part of the affinity
scam, building trust
845
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:42,417
through a common
set of beliefs.
846
00:35:42,483 --> 00:35:44,383
In this way he was able
to advance his purpose
847
00:35:44,450 --> 00:35:45,417
with surprising speed.
848
00:35:45,483 --> 00:35:47,450
And his goal?
849
00:35:47,517 --> 00:35:48,550
To acquire the building fund.
850
00:35:48,617 --> 00:35:49,849
Hmm.
851
00:35:49,916 --> 00:35:51,383
What's this?
852
00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:52,916
Photocopies of Martha
Harris' birth certificate,
853
00:35:52,983 --> 00:35:54,883
driver's license,
854
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:57,350
Social Security Card,
credit cards, bank statements,
855
00:35:57,417 --> 00:36:00,283
everything you need
to steal her identity.
856
00:36:00,350 --> 00:36:02,250
And why would he need
Martha Harris' identity?
857
00:36:02,317 --> 00:36:04,617
To set up an offshore account.
858
00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:08,483
Whose idea was it
859
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:10,217
to open a post office box
together?
860
00:36:10,283 --> 00:36:11,783
Mrs. Harris'.
861
00:36:11,849 --> 00:36:14,317
She wanted a way to communicate
with me without using the phone.
862
00:36:14,383 --> 00:36:15,783
In the time
you spent with her,
863
00:36:15,849 --> 00:36:19,217
did Martha Harris ever
mention the Nigerian scam?
864
00:36:19,283 --> 00:36:20,584
She talked about it constantly.
865
00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:21,950
Her husband had gotten one
of those letters,
866
00:36:22,016 --> 00:36:23,650
and he thought the whole thing
was for real.
867
00:36:23,716 --> 00:36:26,584
She couldn't believe
how gullible he was.
868
00:36:26,650 --> 00:36:28,317
So she knew
it was a scam?
869
00:36:28,383 --> 00:36:30,916
She said she'd seen a whole
program on {i1}60 Minutes{i} about it.
870
00:36:30,983 --> 00:36:34,650
But then she got this idea to
steal the church building fund.
871
00:36:34,716 --> 00:36:38,283
She wanted to pretend
to be a Nigerian scammer,
872
00:36:38,350 --> 00:36:40,617
so that when she took the church
building fund,
873
00:36:40,684 --> 00:36:42,350
everyone, including
Pastor Harris,
874
00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:44,617
would think the Nigerians were
the ones that took it,
875
00:36:44,684 --> 00:36:45,916
which is exactly what happened.
876
00:36:45,983 --> 00:36:47,916
And did Mrs. Harris
ever ask you
877
00:36:47,983 --> 00:36:49,584
if you would help her
with all this?
878
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:51,650
She said I'd get half
the building fund.
879
00:36:51,716 --> 00:36:53,816
Is that why you
continued to see her?
880
00:36:53,883 --> 00:36:55,417
Yes.
881
00:36:55,483 --> 00:36:56,749
You used her.
882
00:36:56,816 --> 00:36:59,483
You took advantage
of her loniness.
883
00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:01,050
I'm not proud of it.
884
00:37:01,116 --> 00:37:04,016
Did she instruct you on how
to alter the Nigerian documents?
885
00:37:04,083 --> 00:37:06,350
She did.
886
00:37:06,417 --> 00:37:08,317
Did you steal her identity?
887
00:37:08,383 --> 00:37:10,217
No, she gave me all her info.
888
00:37:10,283 --> 00:37:12,317
She asked me to open an account
in her name.
889
00:37:12,383 --> 00:37:15,183
She came up
with everything.
890
00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:17,250
And did Mrs. Harris ever
speak to you about why
891
00:37:17,317 --> 00:37:18,783
she wanted to steal the money?
892
00:37:18,849 --> 00:37:22,016
She wanted to get back at my mom
and Brother Jeff.
893
00:37:22,083 --> 00:37:24,317
Tell us what
you mean by that.
894
00:37:24,383 --> 00:37:27,617
She was convinced
they were seeing each other.
895
00:37:27,684 --> 00:37:30,816
Your mother, Joan Monroe and
Pastor Harris having an affair.
896
00:37:30,883 --> 00:37:32,983
And were they?
897
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:35,584
No, but you couldn't
tell her that.
898
00:37:35,650 --> 00:37:38,650
She knew if she took that money,
my mom and Brother Jeff
899
00:37:38,716 --> 00:37:41,550
would get blamed
for the whole thing.
900
00:37:44,083 --> 00:37:45,716
How did
the nine-millimeter pistol
901
00:37:45,783 --> 00:37:48,749
that killed Pastor Jeff Harris
come to be in your car?
902
00:37:48,816 --> 00:37:50,183
Mrs. Harris and I
903
00:37:50,250 --> 00:37:52,083
would drive separately down
to Madison to meet.
904
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:55,183
She didn't like being
in the car by herself,
905
00:37:55,250 --> 00:37:57,083
so she asked me to get
her some protection.
906
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:58,716
So you stole
your mom's gun?
907
00:37:58,783 --> 00:38:01,849
I borrowed my mom's pistol
and I gave it to Mrs. Harris.
908
00:38:01,916 --> 00:38:03,383
The night Brother Jeff
was killed,
909
00:38:03,450 --> 00:38:04,816
she brought it back to me,
910
00:38:04,883 --> 00:38:07,050
said she didn't
want it anymore.
911
00:38:07,116 --> 00:38:08,383
Said it made her nervous.
912
00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:11,150
Next thing I know,
I'm arrested for murder.
913
00:38:11,217 --> 00:38:15,783
So you hear that Pastor Harris
has been killed,
914
00:38:15,849 --> 00:38:17,450
and that his wife's missing.
915
00:38:17,517 --> 00:38:19,816
The same woman who brought
back the gun to you.
916
00:38:19,883 --> 00:38:20,883
And what do you do?
917
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:22,016
Call the police?
918
00:38:22,083 --> 00:38:23,417
No.
Why not?
919
00:38:23,483 --> 00:38:25,250
Because I was afraid my mom
would get blamed.
920
00:38:25,317 --> 00:38:26,716
Really?
921
00:38:26,783 --> 00:38:28,250
That's touching.
922
00:38:28,317 --> 00:38:30,749
Where were you the morning after
Pastor Harris was killed?
923
00:38:30,816 --> 00:38:34,716
In church, getting ready
to play in the band.
924
00:38:34,783 --> 00:38:38,816
Isn't it true you went to church
that morning to avoid suspicion?
925
00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:40,083
No.
926
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:41,650
And didn't you flee
two days later
927
00:38:41,716 --> 00:38:43,116
when Martha Harris
was arrested,
928
00:38:43,183 --> 00:38:44,417
because you were concerned
she'd identify you?
929
00:38:44,483 --> 00:38:45,716
No.
And didn't you steal
930
00:38:45,783 --> 00:38:47,916
a license plate in Ohio
to avoid getting caught?
931
00:38:47,983 --> 00:38:49,883
No.
And weren't you taking
932
00:38:49,950 --> 00:38:51,783
the murder weapon with you
in order to dispose of it
933
00:38:51,849 --> 00:38:53,150
as far from the crime scene
as possible?
934
00:38:53,217 --> 00:38:55,950
No.
No?
935
00:38:56,016 --> 00:38:58,650
No further questions,
Your Honor.
936
00:39:08,350 --> 00:39:10,749
Todd Monroe came up
with a brilliant plan.
937
00:39:10,816 --> 00:39:12,849
He saw that if he spread
the poisoned promise
938
00:39:12,916 --> 00:39:15,083
of nonexistent millions--
939
00:39:15,150 --> 00:39:17,816
remember, these people were
already engaged
940
00:39:17,883 --> 00:39:19,684
in raising money
to build a church--
941
00:39:19,783 --> 00:39:21,617
he could exploit them,
and he did.
942
00:39:21,684 --> 00:39:24,849
He played his pastor,
the pastor's wife,
943
00:39:24,916 --> 00:39:26,450
even his own mother.
944
00:39:26,517 --> 00:39:29,684
And when Pastor Harris called
on that fatal night,
945
00:39:29,749 --> 00:39:32,883
and said "I know everything,"
946
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:34,584
Todd Monroe assumed
947
00:39:34,650 --> 00:39:36,749
the pastor was talking
about the money
948
00:39:36,816 --> 00:39:38,483
he'd just stolen,
949
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:44,783
$267,000; the building fund.
950
00:39:44,849 --> 00:39:47,417
Todd Monroe was going
to hang onto that money.
951
00:39:47,483 --> 00:39:49,916
He'd gone to a lot
of trouble to get it.
952
00:39:49,983 --> 00:39:54,450
He had to shut Pastor Harris up.
953
00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:56,883
So he shot him.
954
00:40:11,584 --> 00:40:16,617
Todd Monroe held Pastor Harris
in the highest regard.
955
00:40:16,684 --> 00:40:20,617
This was the man that had saved
him from the ravages of alcohol.
956
00:40:20,684 --> 00:40:24,183
In his care, Todd Monroe
was learning
957
00:40:24,250 --> 00:40:26,650
to believe in himself again.
958
00:40:26,749 --> 00:40:30,350
But it was this very
vulnerability
959
00:40:30,417 --> 00:40:32,916
that Martha Harris exploited.
960
00:40:32,983 --> 00:40:35,684
She hatched the plan
to take the money.
961
00:40:35,749 --> 00:40:38,250
It was her jealousy,
a jealousy so blind
962
00:40:38,317 --> 00:40:41,650
that it assumed an affair
where there was none.
963
00:40:41,716 --> 00:40:47,250
Ladies and gentlemen,
Martha Harris had come undone.
964
00:40:49,016 --> 00:40:50,816
And my client was unlucky
enough to be there
965
00:40:50,883 --> 00:40:52,050
to catch her when she fell.
966
00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:54,317
And the prosecution knows
all this.
967
00:40:54,383 --> 00:40:56,883
In fact, until recently,
they had been building a case
968
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:58,617
against her.
969
00:40:58,684 --> 00:41:00,617
No wonder.
970
00:41:00,684 --> 00:41:04,783
After all, there's an offshore
account with all the money
971
00:41:04,849 --> 00:41:07,317
from the church building fund
with her name on it.
972
00:41:07,383 --> 00:41:11,916
Follow the money,
ladies and gentlemen.
973
00:41:11,983 --> 00:41:15,816
It leads to Mrs. Harris,
not Todd Monroe.
974
00:41:15,883 --> 00:41:19,483
Todd Monroe killed
Pastor Harris?
975
00:41:23,350 --> 00:41:25,383
Doesn't add up.
976
00:41:45,417 --> 00:41:48,849
The case of {i1}The State of Indiana{i}
{i1}v. Todd Monroe Jr.,{i}
977
00:41:48,916 --> 00:41:50,150
on the count of murder,
978
00:41:50,217 --> 00:41:52,150
the jury finds
the defendant guilty.
979
00:41:52,217 --> 00:41:54,083
(gavel bangs)
980
00:42:29,749 --> 00:42:32,417
(knocking)
981
00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:38,450
I came by to thank you and Miss
Chase, but she'd already gone.
982
00:42:38,517 --> 00:42:40,116
Oh, she has a little girl.
983
00:42:40,183 --> 00:42:41,116
She's gone home.
984
00:42:41,183 --> 00:42:42,116
And what about you?
985
00:42:42,183 --> 00:42:43,517
You're here so late.
986
00:42:43,584 --> 00:42:47,217
Well, I don't have a child
and I'm not married.
987
00:42:47,283 --> 00:42:50,483
I imagine it would be
difficult to have a family
988
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:51,783
and do what you do.
989
00:42:51,849 --> 00:42:54,883
Part of the job.
990
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:57,983
Yeah, I gave my whole
life to the church.
991
00:42:58,050 --> 00:42:59,350
That was my job.
992
00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:05,650
Do you regret it?
993
00:43:05,716 --> 00:43:07,183
Was it worth it?
994
00:43:08,883 --> 00:43:10,417
Yes, it was.
995
00:43:14,016 --> 00:43:16,916
Please tell Miss Chase
I came by.
996
00:43:16,983 --> 00:43:19,016
I will.
997
00:43:53,116 --> 00:43:57,116
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