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- I'm Martha Parker, Mr. Slade.
- Oh, of course.
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Come in.
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It was good of
you to see my so
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late and on such short notice.
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I really had nothing
planned, you see,
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just a quiet night at home.
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You said on the phone
you wanted to talk
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to me about, er, murder?
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Where shall we talk about it?
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Over here on the couch?
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The couch'll be fine.
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May I offer you something.
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A glass of white wine
would be lovely, thank you.
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As I told you, my
radio station is
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doing a feature on
what the police are
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calling the Northside Stabber.
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A most graphic description.
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15 victims so far.
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Yes, 15.
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What I'm doing is interviewing
a number of criminal attorneys.
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Ah, you must understand, I no
longer practice criminal law.
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Oh, I understand.
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But up until-- what was
it-- five, six years ago,
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you were probably the
most famous practicing
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criminal attorney in the state.
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Or infamous.
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I'm curious.
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Why did you keep
up criminal law?
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Money.
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By that I mean I discovered
I had a certain flair
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for its management.
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And because of the success
of my own investments,
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others turned to me
to handle theirs.
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My current practice is
neither as flamboyant
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nor as newsworthy
as it used to be,
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but uh, it's far
more profitable.
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- And you don't miss it?
- Criminal law?
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No, not in the slightest.
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I'd like to ask you
a couple of questions
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I'm asking the other attorneys.
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Testing, one, two, three.
Testing.
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Testing, one, two, three.
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Testing.
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Testing,
one, two, three, testing.
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Testing.
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Amos Slade, tape 1.
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Mr. Slade, as a man who was
once the state's most famous
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criminal lawyer, what advice
would you give to the person
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the police are calling
the Northside Stabber?
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If he happens
to be listening, I
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would advise him to
turn himself in and get
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himself a good attorney.
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Given the current
hysteria, would
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you really say that he or she
would be given a fair trial?
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Well, the better the
lawyer, the fairer the trial.
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Aren't you saying there are
two kinds of justice, then?
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One for the poor
and one for the rich
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who can afford to hire
expensive lawyers?
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That should hardly come
as a shock to anyone.
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Of course, I've always
believed that most
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murderers are never caught.
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Never?
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That's right, never.
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Have you any statistics
to back that up?
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What I have is
years of experience.
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See, the murderers
who are never caught
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are those whose victims
and never found.
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Literally thousands
and thousands
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of people in this country
disappear every year.
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They, uh, simply vanish.
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And you're saying that some
or most of those missing persons
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are actually murder victims?
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I'm saying it's
a real possibility.
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Thank you, Mr. Amos Slade.
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End of Slade
interview, tape one.
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That's a pretty chilling
conclusion, that most
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murderers are never caught.
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Chilling but inescapable.
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If what you say is true,
then walking around out there
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are literally thousands
and thousands of murderers.
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On your way home, keep
you car door locked.
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Thanks for the counsel--
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and for the interview.
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My pleasure.
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John.
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Slade?
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I thought I recognized
that fancy car of yours.
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You have trouble?
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Ah, flats.
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Two of them.
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Oh, what a rotten shame.
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All right, well, come on.
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Get in.
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I'll give you a lift home.
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OK, thanks.
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Two flats, hm?
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Yeah.
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Two?
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Probably kids.
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Probably.
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What brings you out so late?
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Same as you, visiting a lady.
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That was Vicki Walder's
house back there, wasn't it?
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I didn't know you knew Vicki.
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No, no, I knew her husband.
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Or rather her ex-husband.
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Ah.
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You know, it's funny,
us bumping into each other
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like this.
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I was going to call you
tomorrow morning anyway.
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Oh?
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What about?
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The Cagle trust.
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I'm going to need a
little more time before I
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can transfer it over to you.
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Uh, what do you mean
by a little more time?
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You've already had a
three-months extension.
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Well, I'm going to need
another three months.
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I'm sorry, but that's just
not going to be possible.
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John, I really need
those three months.
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You know, there've been
some rumors floating around.
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Hm?
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What?
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What kind of rumors?
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Ugly rumors.
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About you.
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They say you went way
short on Brixton Industries
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and took a bath, a real bath.
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I'd hate to think
that has anything
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to do with the Cagle trust.
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Look, John, I
can work the whole
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thing out if-- if
you just let me
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have those extra three months.
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That's what they
always say, every time.
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I can work it out.
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John, I need
those three months.
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I've got to have them.
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From an ethical point
of view, this conversation
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has gone far enough.
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Just pull over and let me out.
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I'll walk from here.
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John, I'm begging you.
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No chance.
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Just tell me one thing.
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How deep are you in, really?
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$3 million.
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Tough.
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Mr. Slade,
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aren't you saying there are
two kinds of justice then?
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That should hardly come as a shock
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to anyone.
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Of course, I've always
believed that most
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murderers are never caught.
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Never?
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That's right, never.
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Have you
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any statistics to back that up?
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What I have is years of experience.
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See, the murderers
who are never caught
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are those whose victims
are never found.
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Literally thousands
and thousands
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of people in this country
disappear every year.
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They, uh-- they simply vanish.
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Thank you, Mr. Amos Slade.
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Howdy.
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Hello.
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Saw your car and thought
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I'd stop and ask directions.
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Guess I'm kind of lost.
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You a fisherman?
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No, I was just about to give
my dog a run along the beach.
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Well, me and the wife and
the kid been driving all night
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and we're looking
for a place to camp.
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Well, like I said, we've
been driving all night--
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No thanks.
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Looking for a place to camp.
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I guess I took the
wrong turn somewhere.
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Well you go back up the
highway, and it's about half
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a mile.
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Half a mile, you say?
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Yeah, it'll be on your left.
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Should get there
just about dawn.
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Get a little surf casting in
if we're not too tuckered.
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Did you say you got
a dog over there?
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That's right.
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Awful quiet.
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What kind is he?
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He's a Chesapeake retriever.
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No kidding.
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They sure like the
water, don't they?
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I was thinking about
buying one, but they're
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just so doggone expensive.
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Mind if I take a look at him?
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Well, I'd really prefer
you didn't bother him.
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He's, uh-- well, he's
not too friendly.
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That's why we come here
so early, when there
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are no other people around.
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Sure, I understand.
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Don't blame you.
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Maybe some other time.
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Of course.
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Just up the road?
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Half a mile, on the left?
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Is that it?
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That's it.
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Thanks for the directions.
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Ahh!
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Someone must be
around here somewhere.
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There's his car up on the cliff.
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Kind of like to take it.
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Oh, Fred!
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Just take a look.
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Isn't the cutest
thing you ever saw?
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Oh, Fred, I've got to
get a picture of this.
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