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Who's that? Who is that?
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It's just a patient. Road traffic accident.
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We're only holding two cards, Stella.
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One, we have him. Two, we have her and she's alive.
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The rest is a disaster.
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Do you have a friend called Daisy?
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Why?
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There's something about her online.
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How she met Daddy one time.
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Am I being interviewed under caution?
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- Yes, you are.
- I know Rose was in that boot.
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And I needed to get to her.
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And what about Mr. Spector's life?
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Did you not have a duty to protect that?
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Oh!
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- I need some help in here!
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- Rose, what are you doing?
- I want to go home.
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- You can't.
- I want to go home!
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A man has come forward
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having seen Spector's photograph on the news.
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He says Spector looks like a man
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who rents a lock-up from him in East Belfast.
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Under the name "Baldwin".
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We've just landed a not uninteresting little case.
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The Belfast Strangler.
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- You stay away from him!
- I haven't been near him.
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You need to get a grip! You're obsessed. It's pathetic.
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- Who's pathetic now?
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Ma'am.
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Hello, Daddy. It's me, Olivia.
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Why are you so big? And you...you look different.
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Older. What's happening to me?
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More victims.
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Are you in pain?
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- Here.
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We've seen fragments before,
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bits of pages that didn't burn in the car.
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Enough to confirm that he kept journals
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but...nothing like this.
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Nothing so extensive, nothing so detailed.
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I'd...put it to Spector
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that between the strangulation of Rose
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and the murder of Fiona Gallagher
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that there must have been other attacks.
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He said that there were no other attacks,
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that Fiona Gallagher was his first murder.
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During that gap in time,
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he suggested that he always had a "project" to work on.
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Are these those "projects"?
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"AS."
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Might live in the Holylands area.
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Who might be a journalist.
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Who seems to wake up late every day and skip breakfast.
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Who wears a cream robe after her bath
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and sometimes doesn't completely close
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her bedroom curtains.
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Or "RW."
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Who cycles to the university most days off.
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Somewhere in the Lisburn Road.
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Always brings her lunch with her
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and eats in the Botanic Gardens.
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Who has clear, pale skin, wears close-fitting clothes
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and walks with a short stride that Spector likes.
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Where on the continuum of his violence
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do these journals fit?
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Are they just fantasies that sustain him?
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Feed his appetites?
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Or are they a record?
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Of nine more murders?
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What time of day is it? Morning, afternoon, night?
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- Morning.
- Where are we?
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Belfast General Hospital.
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Can you remember the name of your nurse?
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Kiera.
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Are you married? Or do you have a partner?
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I'm married.
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Can you remember any other family members?
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Sally-Ann has a father, John.
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And a mother, Carol.
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We call her CC.
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And what about you?
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- Me?
- Do you have any family?
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- No.
- Why is that?
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My mother died.
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And what about your father?
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When I was growing up, he was known as Peter Baldwin.
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I thought that man was... my father, until he left us.
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My mother told me that he wasn't my real father,
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just...just a man.
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When did you become Paul Spector?
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Erm...just before I met Sally-Ann.
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Why did you change?
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I wanted a...clean start. New life.
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Why is that?
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Not sure.
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Has that new life worked for you?
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The sheer volume of garments
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suggest there were very many fetish burglaries at that time.
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His journals talk of... climbing scaffolding...
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...finding windows open, doors unlocked.
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Alarms not set.
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I took this photograph to be of a woman.
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On closer inspection...
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it's clear it's a mannequin.
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And these pictures of him...
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...the bondage... the auto-asphyxiation...
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...introduce a new element to our understanding
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of his sexual behaviour.
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Has any information returned to you
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over the last 12 hours, voluntarily?
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Don't think so.
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Hold this in your hand.
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Keep it safe. Can you give it back to me in 15 minutes' time?
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Yes.
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Who's the British Prime Minister?
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Tony Blair.
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Have you heard of Facebook?
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- Yes.
- What is it?
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It's erm...it's a social networking thing.
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And what about Twitter?
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Don't know what that is.
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So you don't know what a tweet is or tweeting?
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The sound a bird makes.
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What's a hashtag?
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No idea.
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Presumably I'm supposed to know what these things are?
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Maybe.
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The main thing is we identify and find these women.
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Use the initials.
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Look at solved or unsolved sexually motivated murders
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or attempted murders, particularly strangulations,
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occurring in homes and apartments.
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Check Missing Persons for suspected foul play.
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We need to know if these women are alive or dead.
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I think that's all, unless there's anything else?
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We've confirmed the list of children's homes
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Spector was in following the death of his mother.
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We have lists of all his fellow pupils,
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including those at Gortnacull.
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Any news on the Benedetto girl?
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Uniforms called at her house this morning, ma'am.
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She didn't come home last night.
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Her mother has no idea where she is.
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A warrant's been issued for her arrest.
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Thank you, all.
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What's the last full day you remember?
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It was with Olivia.
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Go on.
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Erm... I took her to a playgroup.
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A musical playgroup.
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She loves dancing.
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And er...they all sing songs.
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Wheels On The Bus.
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She touches all the right places
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when she does Head, Shoulders, Knees And Toes.
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Then we er... went for lunch in the park.
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She was... peddling on her tricycle.
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There's a pair of swans on the water there.
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Nine or ten babies. Ugly ducklings.
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She was talking loads.
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She's always getting me to play "make believe" with her.
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It sounds to me like Olivia's about two years old?
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Yeah.
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But she isn't, is she?
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Can you describe what the memory loss feels like to you?
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Well...
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...it feels like it's night-time and...
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...there's a thunderstorm and...
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I'm standing on a hillside.
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I've been asked to...to draw a map of the valley below.
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There's lightning flashes.
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They light up the land, but only for a few seconds.
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Not long enough to draw the map.
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Can you recall who are you?
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In the sense of what you were like and what you're like now?
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Your trait characteristics?
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Erm...
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I'm told I have a son.
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I have no reason to think that people are lying to me, but...
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...I don't feel it.
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I'm told I'm in trouble with the police.
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I don't know what I've done.
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I think that... I might be different,
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but...I don't know how.
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I feel like... I'm an all right person.
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It'll all come back to me, won't it?
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Your anterograde memory is working well.
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Anything else you've forgotten, you can relearn.
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But the ownership has gone.
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- Gibson. - Patrick Spencer.
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ICU consultant, Belfast General Hospital.
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Thank you for calling me back, Doctor.
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I understand he's conscious.
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Yes. His physiology is normalising.
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He's cardiovascularly stable, and he's made good progress
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given the massive insult
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and blood loss from the bullet wounds.
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- But?
- But there is an issue.
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Although his short-term memory
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seems to be functioning adequately...
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...it seems Mr. Spector has suffered
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quite extensive long-term memory loss.
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OK.
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Just gonna move your legs to the edge of the bed here.
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OK. And now I'm gonna take your arm out.
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OK, here we go.
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Keep going. Right, yeah...
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- Yeah.
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That's good. Well done.
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Apparently, he's docile.
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Well-orientated in time and space,
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and has established good relations
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with his doctors and nurses.
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Oh, for pity's sake...
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Seems he can acquire new information,
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and keep track of his medical procedures,
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but he has almost no recollection of the events
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that have taken place over the last six years or so.
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Are we supposed to be taking this seriously?
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I think we have to.
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Are they linking this...this impairment
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directly to the shooting?
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The nature of the amnesia has not been established yet.
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It might be organic.
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An injury to the brain
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because of blood loss or resultant lack of oxygen.
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Or it could be psychogenic.
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A result, perhaps, of trauma.
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But until they do an MRI scan, they can't really say.
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So perform the MRI scan.
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Spector has retained metal fragments
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from the bullet in his body.
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If they contain iron, the fragments can be heated up
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and the magnet could drag them through the body
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and cause more organ damage.
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Are they conducting psychological tests yet?
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Yes, they are.
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The consultant neuropsychologist is an Alison Walden.
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But Jim's right.
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He must be feigning, surely, or at the very least,
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exaggerating his symptoms.
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To what end?
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The law does not concern itself
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with the present state of mind of the criminal defendant,
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only the state of mind at the time the crime was committed.
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And Spector's was clearly conveyed in his confession.
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He clearly understood the difference
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between right and wrong at the time of the crimes.
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And therefore, he will be held accountable.
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But it is founded on memory-based evidence.
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If he's saying that he can't remember any of the crimes
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it poses all sorts of problems for the courts.
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It's almost like he's claiming that he's innocent.
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It seems there's more than usual pressure
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to build the evidential case against him.
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That's precisely what we're doing, sir.
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What will happen to him if the defence does ask
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for a mental health assessment?
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His potential dangerousness suggests a forensic unit,
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rather than a hospital ward.
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And where would that be?
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The Foyle Clinic in East Belfast.
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Who will assess him?
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August Larson.
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He's the consultant forensic psychiatrist.
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Very experienced.
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Very used to giving expert testimony in court.
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The sooner we get him out of the hands of the medics
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and back into the justice system, the better.
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Thanks, Alison.
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Kiera Sheridan, Mr. Spector's dedicated nurse.
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She provides him with one-to-one care.
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She will limit your visit if patient status warrants it.
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- Thank you.
- She'll show you in.
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What about the wife?
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I'm worried about her.
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It's obviously been a devastating blow to her,
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as it would be to anyone who seems to have had...
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no real suspicions.
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There's no possibility of her repeating the offence.
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She's admitted her guilt, she's corrected the facts.
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She might even end up being a witness for the prosecution.
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I think we should drop the charges.
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If she'd told the truth in the first place
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about Spector's whereabouts,
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then we could have investigated him more closely.
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And perhaps Rose Stagg
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would not have been put through the ordeal that she has.
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I just feel that pursuing her through the courts
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will likely have a very bad effect
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on her mental and physical health.
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Is prosecution really in the public interest?
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As Director of Public Prosecutions,
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I have to say I think it is.
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How things will unfold with Spector is unclear.
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Prosecuting his wife sends a clear signal.
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We mean business
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and no-one involved will be getting off lightly.
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Sally-Ann Spector miscarried in police custody.
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That's a devastating thing to happen to any woman...
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but particularly her.
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Her identity is wrapped up in her children
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and those that she cares for.
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She's perceived as an angel
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by the parents of the babies she looks after in the NICU.
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Now it appears as if she's lost everything.
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Her marriage, her...work, her unborn child.
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She's paid a very high price for her naivety.
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I can't believe that of all people, you are suggesting
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that we treat Sally-Ann paternalistically.
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I say we move ahead with the charges
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and we can use them as leverage against Spector.
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I do think we need to bear in mind
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the seriousness of the offence.
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We accepted instructions on your behalf from your wife
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when you were unconscious.
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Today is an opportunity for you to say
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if you're happy for us to be representing you.
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I believe that the nature of your injuries
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has been explained to you?
321
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Yes.
322
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And you understand that you were in police custody
323
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- when you were shot?
- Yes.
324
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,001
But I still don't know why. No-one will tell me.
325
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,690
An individual called James Tyler was responsible.
326
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,606
I don't know who that is. Why did he shoot me?
327
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I need to get more information from the police
328
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,849
before I can explain that.
329
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The more pressing issue, Mr. Spector,
330
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,011
is that the police have charged you
331
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with a number of very serious crimes.
332
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I mean...the most serious crimes on the statute book.
333
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,650
- What crimes?
- A series of murders.
334
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,841
What...what sort of murders?
335
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,285
With your permission,
336
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,171
let me take you through the police charge sheet.
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00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,726
All the er...alleged crimes took place in Belfast.
338
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,042
The police claim that on the tenth day of December, 2011,
339
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you murdered university lecturer Fiona Gallagher
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00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,326
in her home, before fleeing the scene.
341
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,482
Death by strangulation.
342
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,840
That on the 15th of March, 2012...
343
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,487
...you murdered architect Alice Munroe in her home,
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strangling her with a ligature.
345
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,610
They allege that you then washed and dried her body
346
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,685
before putting her back to bed and posing her body.
347
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,323
That on the 16th of April, 2012,
348
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,484
you murdered solicitor Sarah Kay in her home,
349
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,722
strangling her with a ligature.
350
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:08,400
They allege that you washed and dried Sarah's body.
351
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,642
Washed and dried her bedclothes...
352
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,445
...painted her fingernails red...
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00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,843
...before posing her in her bed and taking photographs.
354
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,086
Sarah Kay was pregnant at the time of her death.
355
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,644
That four days later, on the 20th of April, 2012...
356
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,529
...you attacked and strangled
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accountant Annie Brawley in her home.
358
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,846
They claim that you also murdered her brother,
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Joseph Brawley,
360
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,568
when he tried to defend his sister.
361
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,123
Stabbing him three times with some decorating shears.
362
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,203
You then fled the scene.
363
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,442
Annie Brawley survived the attack.
364
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,811
I don't recognise any of these people.
365
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,769
I've never seen these people before.
366
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,805
There's more.
367
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,440
They allege that on May 3rd,
368
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,922
you abducted Rose Stagg from her home.
369
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,248
Imprisoned her unlawfully
370
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,402
and detained her against her will.
371
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,802
I know her.
372
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,208
- Rose what? Who did you say?
- Stagg.
373
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,565
Perhaps you know Mrs. Stagg better as Rose McGill.
374
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,802
Yes.
375
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,246
But I haven't seen her for the last four years or so.
376
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,482
When did you last see her, do you think?
377
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,842
Early summer, 2002.
378
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,729
2002 is ten years ago, not four.
379
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,645
Have you been listening to the charges, Mr. Spector?
380
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,131
It's May 2012.
381
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,443
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
382
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,167
What happened to Rose?
383
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,322
She's alive.
384
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,324
The police say you led them to her.
385
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,721
She was found in the boot of her own car.
386
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,611
The police suggest you left her trapped.
387
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,762
Left her to die.
388
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,722
Why would I do that to Rose?
389
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,326
The police say they have a confession.
390
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,687
That you made a number of admissions.
391
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,285
I erm...have no memory of that.
392
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,841
We think it makes sense for your first appearance in court
393
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,081
to be as soon as possible,
394
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,050
because it will initiate the evidential disclosure process.
395
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,486
Will you be strong enough?
396
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,329
Once we are in receipt of those documents
397
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,323
we will look at the detail of that confession
398
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,051
and take you through every bit of evidence against you.
399
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,204
Every witness statement, page by page, line by line.
400
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,762
Is that all clear?
401
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,089
Yes.
402
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,242
Any questions?
403
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,207
I just need some time for it all to sink in.
404
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,362
Of course.
405
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,642
Do you know who that is?
406
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,122
No. Should I?
407
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,851
If any memories relevant to the case return to you,
408
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,002
please contact Louise here.
409
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,562
We're here to help you, Mr. Spector.
410
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,845
We will guide you through this.
411
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,002
Thank you.
412
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,326
Sorry, ma'am. Rose Stagg is here to see you.
413
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,601
Set up an interview room, Dani. I'd like you to sit in.
414
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,808
Of course.
415
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,487
I woke to find him in bed with me.
416
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,725
He took me downstairs, his hand over my mouth.
417
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,882
He took me into the kitchen.
418
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,084
Go on.
419
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,729
He used my name. He called me Rose.
420
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,331
I felt perhaps I recognised the voice.
421
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,765
He said he didn't want to hurt me or my lovely family.
422
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,562
But that he would if I cried out.
423
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,442
And then he released me.
424
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,091
When I turned round, I recognised him.
425
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,282
What did you think in that moment?
426
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,802
Just for a moment...
427
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,882
...I thought that maybe it would be all right.
428
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,282
That maybe it was a joke.
429
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,362
A game.
430
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,762
What did you say?
431
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,527
I just said, "Peter?"
432
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,562
He...he made me dress
433
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,246
from clothes that were hanging in the utility room.
434
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,249
He made me write a note. He told me what to put.
435
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,562
The house seemed so silent.
436
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,207
The sound of the pen on the paper
437
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,362
seemed really loud in my head.
438
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,762
Like a whooshing.
439
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,200
All I could think about was getting him out of there.
440
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,124
Away from Nancy.
441
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,841
Did you resist him at all?
442
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,202
Er...I was numb.
443
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,165
I didn't really struggle
444
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,483
until he was walking me towards that awful building.
445
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,602
I thought, "If he takes me in there...
446
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,762
...I'm gonna die.
447
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,482
I'm gonna be the next victim."
448
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,802
That's when I tried to run.
449
00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:27,722
He was too strong.
450
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,242
He made tapes of you.
451
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,484
We found edited versions of those tapes on his phone.
452
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,130
You've seen them?
453
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,447
He tied me to a chair. It was fixed to the ground.
454
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,290
And he sat behind the camera so that when I looked at him...
455
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,328
...I was looking directly into the lens.
456
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,802
He hardly spoke. He...he just stared at me.
457
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,371
I tried everything I could to get through to him.
458
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,169
I begged him. I flattered him.
459
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,800
I insulted him. I tried to provoke him, even.
460
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,682
He didn't respond.
461
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,769
His eyes were open but it was like he was in a trance.
462
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,687
Did he sexually assault you?
463
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,844
No. I don't think so.
464
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,484
Did he perform sex acts on himself?
465
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,881
Did he masturbate in front of you?
466
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,008
No, just the filming.
467
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,771
Are those healing all right?
468
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,482
I'm told I did it to myself.
469
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,167
I've no memory of that.
470
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,290
We found a broken lens from a pair of sunglasses
471
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,408
in the boot of your car.
472
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,450
Your blood was on them. There were no other fingerprints.
473
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,651
I can't work out if it's just marks...
474
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,522
...or if it's a message.
475
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,485
When I first saw it...
476
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,685
...it looked like an attempt to write, "I love you."
477
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,049
Breathe.
478
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,887
I always thought that I wanted...love and security.
479
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,370
Now I just... feel like I'm floating free...
480
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,402
...in a void.
481
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,926
You have such a strong sense of purpose.
482
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,127
I feel like there's nothing beneath my feet right now.
483
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,444
Like...nothing steadying them.
484
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,969
It's as if I'm slightly drunk.
485
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,842
Rose...Rose...
486
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,927
Remember...you survived.
487
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,002
You got through it.
488
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,202
It's in the past.
489
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,929
Paul Spector, a 32-year-old bereavement counsellor
490
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,243
from South Belfast charged with four counts of murder
491
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,007
is due to make his first appearance in court today.
492
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,286
The four female victims,
493
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,807
all young, professional women in their 30s,
494
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,247
were attacked in their homes at night.
495
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,481
Three of those women
496
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,201
died of manual or ligature strangulation.
497
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,681
Spector, a married man and father-of-two,
498
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,968
is also charged with the attempted murder
499
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,565
of accountant Annie Brawley
500
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,200
and the abduction and unlawful imprisonment
501
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,966
of Belfast radiologist Rose Stagg.
502
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,402
Your head.
503
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,281
I worry this is all too soon for you.
504
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,207
I'll be fine.
505
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,369
Detective Superintendent Gibson!
506
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,251
The man you have in custody, will he be in court today?
507
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,969
How are you doing? Are you ready for this?
508
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,282
I'm a bit nervous, but yeah.
509
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,250
Yeah. Shall we head up, then?
510
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,807
Stand there.
511
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,851
Look straight into the camera.
512
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,083
You'll be able to see the judge and the legal teams.
513
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:39,890
Answer any questions clearly.
514
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,928
The er...prosecution has suggested
515
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,003
we read the shortened version of the charge.
516
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,004
- You happy enough with that?
- Yeah, that's fine.
517
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,527
- All rise.
518
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,208
Thank you. Please sit.
519
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,442
Are you ready to proceed, ma'am?
520
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,402
I am.
521
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,724
Mr. Spector, can you see and hear the proceedings?
522
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,769
Yes.
523
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,763
The charges against the accused
524
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,127
are stated as four counts of murder,
525
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,442
one of attempted murder,
526
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,888
and one of abduction and unlawful imprisonment.
527
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,328
Can you confirm for the court that you are Peter Paul Spector?
528
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,369
Yes.
529
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,241
That your date of birth is the 25th of May, 1979?
530
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,050
That's correct.
531
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,851
And that you live at 64 Tiberias Drive,
532
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,322
Belfast, BT6 7KM.
533
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,767
So I've been told.
534
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,122
Why is he answering in that manner?
535
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,442
Ma'am, if I may.
536
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,648
My client has to answer in that manner
537
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,371
because he has suffered significant memory loss.
538
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,646
As you no doubt know,
539
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,122
Mr. Spector was shot while in police custody.
540
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,171
He lost his spleen as a result and was in a coma for some time.
541
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,084
The reason he is appearing from hospital
542
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,925
is that he is still being held there in intensive care.
543
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,369
I have written reports from the ICU consultant, Dr. Spencer,
544
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,568
and from the consultant neuropsychologist,
545
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:45,210
Dr. Alison Walden,
546
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,488
that explain the nature and degree
547
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,246
of my client's disability.
548
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,084
Dr. Walden is approved
549
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:55,244
under part two of the Mental Health Order, 1986.
550
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,765
There's information there
551
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,366
about the treatment Mr. Spector's undergone
552
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,649
and an account of his behaviour in hospital.
553
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,290
The memory loss, you will see,
554
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,522
covers a period of approximately six years
555
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,923
up to and including the recent shooting.
556
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,163
One of the primary foundations of criminal law
557
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,891
is that all defendants are capable
558
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,044
of actively participating in their defence.
559
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,966
Mr. Spector's amnesia prevents him from so doing.
560
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,361
Whilst Mr. Spector understands that he is in court
561
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,364
and charged with a number of criminal offences,
562
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,204
and understands the nature and object
563
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,567
and the possible consequences of the proceedings,
564
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,882
he cannot enter a plea.
565
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,520
He cannot consult with, or assist his lawyer.
566
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,001
He cannot give evidence in his own defence.
567
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,970
On that basis, I feel I need to raise the issue of competence
568
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,681
as to whether Mr. Spector is fit to stand trial.
569
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,729
Mr. Healy, let me stop you there.
570
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,121
The concerns you have raised are noted,
571
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,964
but you know as well as I do
572
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,771
that it's not a matter on which this court can adjudicate.
573
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,011
Mr. Spector, do you understand
574
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,606
that your case must be sent to Crown Court?
575
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,446
- Yes.
576
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,762
Then you will be held on remand in hospital
577
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,331
until arrangements can be made
578
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,246
to transfer you to a secure psychiatric clinic,
579
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,323
where more tests can be done
580
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,007
to determine the nature of your mental disability.
581
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:46,484
That's the guy who's defending the murderer!
582
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,246
Mr Healy, how does it feel to be defending the Belfast Strangler?
583
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,051
The alleged Belfast Strangler.
584
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,446
Dressed in a blue sweatshirt and tracksuit bottoms,
585
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Mr Spector spoke only to confirm his name and date of birth
586
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:03,730
during the ten-minute hearing.
587
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,008
At that point proceedings took a bizarre twist
588
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,447
as it became apparent that the alleged serial killer
589
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,967
is suffering from significant memory loss.
590
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,009
Mr. Spector was remanded in custody
591
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,845
to undergo further medical and psychiatric assessment.
592
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,844
Following the hearing, the Public Prosecution Service
593
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,729
confirmed that Sally-Ann Spector
594
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,724
will appear in the Crown Court on Monday, 2nd of July,
595
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,201
to face charges of perverting the course of justice.
596
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,806
The prosecution claims that Mr. Spectofs wife
597
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,440
provided her husband with false alibis.
598
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,045
Gibson.
599
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Superintendent Gibson?
600
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,126
Yes.
601
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,090
I'm August Larson.
602
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:01,890
I'm the consultant psychiatrist
603
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,361
who's been asked to assist Paul Spector.
604
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,441
It's an odd time to be calling, Doctor.
605
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,809
Are you still working?
606
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,849
Yes.
607
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,526
Well, there you are.
608
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,444
Before he's moved here,
609
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,001
I need to determine the risk of violence
610
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,165
towards himself and others, and plan his management.
611
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,643
Have you seen the list of crimes he's been charged with?
612
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,810
I received that information from the court, yes.
613
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,483
In my experience, a history of previous violence
614
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,484
is the best predictor for future violence
615
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,850
for someone whether they are mentally disordered or not.
616
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,244
And Paul Spector is a violent sexual sadist.
617
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,122
Why are you so kind to me?
618
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,921
If I've done the things that the...police say I've done,
619
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,684
then I'm a monster.
620
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,762
It's my job.
621
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,322
What?
622
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,807
It says in your notes that there were tears in your eyes
623
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,803
during your surgery.
624
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,769
That you were crying.
625
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,685
Was I?
626
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,049
Does that mean anything to you?
627
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,042
Perhaps.
628
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,763
I just can't believe the memory loss is real.
629
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:00,849
He's just the sort of person who would feign amnesia
630
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,685
if he felt there was something to be gained from it.
631
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,286
Even for the sheer delight of duping people...
632
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,488
particularly experts.
633
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,281
Someone like me, for example?
634
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,130
I'm just saying that from my conversations with him
635
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,203
it seems to me that he exhibits, if anything,
636
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,524
a...superior memory for his violence.
637
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,569
It's clear to me...
638
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:29,009
that he rehearsed the crimes in his mind over and over.
639
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,606
They were heavily scripted.
640
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,003
And so the crimes themselves were memorable,
641
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,845
both in the way that they matched the script
642
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,002
and in the way that they differ.
643
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:45,689
So, in my view, it's...extremely unlikely
644
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,491
that he has... forgotten anything.
645
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,688
Faced with memory loss,
646
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,810
there is only one way a clinician can go...
647
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,201
and that is to investigate.
648
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,885
If we take him here, then that is what I intend to do.
649
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,850
If you have the time I'd really appreciate
650
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,129
a pre-morbid appraisal of Mr. Spector from you.
651
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,205
As someone who has had extensive dealings with him.
652
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,647
Anything at all you can tell me about him
653
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,882
would be extremely useful.
654
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,962
I'll help in any way I can.
655
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,327
Thank you.
656
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,482
Good night.
657
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,802
- Good night.
658
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,651
Everything went dark.
659
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,326
And did time seem to speed up or slow down?
660
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,722
Sped up.
661
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,042
I was rushing through a tunnel.
662
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,965
And did you see or feel surrounded by a brilliant light?
663
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,207
- There was a light.
- Can you describe it?
664
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,802
Erm...incredibly bright. Blinding.
665
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,849
And hot?
666
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,401
No. Not hot.
667
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,404
Did you come to a border or a point of no return?
668
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,202
There was a point erm... I felt I could have gone on.
669
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,928
But there were voices calling me back.
670
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,082
What voices?
671
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:37,323
My daughter. Olivia.
672
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,243
And was there anyone else there known to you?
673
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,243
Living or dead?
674
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:13,961
- Yes.
- Who?
675
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,642
I think my mother.
676
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:24,722
And what happened?
677
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,482
How did you feel in her presence?
678
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,646
Afraid.
679
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,564
Did she speak to you?
680
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,042
She was calling me.
681
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,249
I think she wanted me to come to her...
682
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:54,005
...towards the light.
683
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,210
But there was other voices. My daughter calling me back.
684
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,130
And did you want to come back to your body?
685
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,089
Come back to life?
686
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:13,722
No.
687
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,402
But I couldn't just abandon her.
688
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,522
Is that when you cried?
689
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,409
Hey.
690
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,202
Drink it all up.
691
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,722
Good girl.
692
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,202
Now...
693
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,207
You came close to dying.
694
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,164
What do you now understand death to be?
695
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,607
What does death mean to you now?
696
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,682
I know that life... is our only true possession.
697
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:43,322
And death?
698
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,967
I've found a murder that looks promising.
699
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,043
Really? The right initials?
700
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,331
That's not the connection. A law student, Susan Harper.
701
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,721
Do you think she looks right?
702
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,281
Yes, absolutely. Just a bit younger.
703
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,286
21. The only problem is there is someone doing time for it.
704
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,841
It's an individual called David Alvarez.
705
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,571
Now, I remembered I saw his name yesterday
706
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:17,529
on the list of children who were at Gortnacull
707
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,205
at the same time as Spector.
708
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,850
So I've done some digging.
709
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,401
And they are one and the same.
710
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,801
The David Alvarez who's doing time for the murder
711
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,405
is the same David Alvarez
712
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,166
who was a fellow pupil of Spector's at the home.
713
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,402
Why was Alvarez convicted?
714
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,485
His DNA on her body. A subsequent confession.
715
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,642
That's pretty conclusive.
716
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,329
What year is this?
717
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,482
August, 2002.
718
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,050
In London.
719
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,841
Now there's a gap in Spector's timeline there.
720
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,129
We don't know where he was or what he was doing.
721
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,042
No, we don't.
722
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,963
I'll see you in the morning. Try and get some sleep.
723
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,887
I'll pray for you.
54012
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