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(indistinct shouting
from photographers)
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(indistinct shouting)
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Photographer:
Hold that right there, please.
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(indistinct shouting continues)
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Anna Wintour: The Met stairs,
you know,
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that famous red carpet,
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has grown in spectacle
over the years.
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It's a kind of theater.
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(man speaks indistinctly)
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Fashion can create a dream,
create a fantasy.
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But there might be some
questions about
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whether fashion belongs
in a museum like the Met.
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Photographer 2: Rihanna!
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(indistinct shouting continues)
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(elevator dings)
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Some people have a very 19th
century idea of what art is.
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There are people
within the museum
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who still dismiss fashion.
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Thomas Campbell: When I
started off as a curator,
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art was considered to be
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painting, architecture
and sculpture.
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Anything outside of that
was decorative arts and,
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quite frankly,
looked down on.
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Costume and fashion being
one example of that.
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Wintour: The museum is
its own little world,
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its own little city.
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Some more old-fashioned
traditionalists
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are used to things being done
in a certain way and
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maybe a Costume Institute
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makes them a bit uncomfortable.
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Harold Koda: Physically,
the Costume Institute is
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subterranean.
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And so the psychology of it
has always been that
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we were in the north sector...
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in a basement.
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It was not seen, really,
as an art area.
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(indistinct conversation)
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Andrew Bolton:
Fashion is still considered
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more in the female domain
than something like painting.
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I think that's the reason
why some people
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are quick to dismiss
fashion as art.
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Koda: Fashion seemed
frivolous and trivial
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to the 19th century attitudes
about fine art.
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But it's laden with concepts,
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aesthetic principals,
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the most refined techniques...
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Everything that we subject
the criteria of art to.
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We're about clothing
as art works.
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Wintour: It's rare to find
someone so creative,
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that they can change the way
you look at an art form.
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But McQueen definitely did.
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Newsreader: Our top story:
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Alexander McQueen
has been found dead
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apparently committing suicide
at his London flat.
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Newsreader 2: Brilliant
and controversial
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fashion designer...
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Newsreader 3: The bad boy of
British fashion died an icon.
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An inspirational designer
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who helped transform
the fashion industry.
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Newsreader 4: They were shutting
down his shops today,
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and there were people fleeing
his shops crying.
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(bagpipes playing)
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(cameras clicking)
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Campbell:
It was the immediate aftermath
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of McQueen's suicide...
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Andrew came to me and said that
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he had been thinking about
an exhibition.
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Tom was reluctant initially.
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He felt it was a bit ghoulish.
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There needed to be some time
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before we did an exhibition
of McQueen.
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Wintour:
A lot of people felt that
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an exhibition may not be
appropriate so soon after he,
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he died in such
an awful way,
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but Andrew is a real visionary,
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and our job is to help him
execute his creative genius.
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Campbell:
The combination of the objects,
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the very theatrical
mise-en-scène,
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the sound...
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(sound of rushing air)
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There was an immersive
component to the exhibition
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that took it to a new level.
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The degree to which the show
became a phenomenon...
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None of us
were prepared for that.
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People queuing around
the museum.
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It hasn't happened
for many years.
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Wintour:
It touched a chord in people
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that I'd never seen before.
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Campbell: It redefined
exhibition-making in museums.
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Bolton: "Savage Beauty"
was the turning point
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in terms of how art critics
began to view fashion,
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and the first time they did
begin to see it as an art form.
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When you're confronted
by genius,
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it speaks to everybody.
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McQueen was one of the most
provocative designers,
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but I always saw this
incredible beauty
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about his work
and this deep romance.
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He always tried to tap into
this juncture between
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beauty and ugliness and terror.
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And he had that ability
to use clothes to move you.
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The McQueen show has become
a little bit
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of an albatross in a way...
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A millstone around my neck.
Because it's the show
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that every show that
I've done subsequently
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is measured against.
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Invariably the reviews
in The New York Times...
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"Not as good as
the McQueen show."
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And it's sort of...
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disappointing to read that
in print
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because every show
has its own momentum.
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I remember being at school,
and we had a career adviser.
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They went
around the class saying,
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you know,
"What's your ideal job?"
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And I said
my ideal job would be
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curator in the
Costume Institute of the Met.
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And I was about 17.
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It really was
a dream come true.
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I was just so seduced
by the romance
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of getting lost
in the museum and
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finding objects that
you weren't expecting.
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But my overwhelming emotion was
just being intimidated by
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the museum and the curators.
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I felt a bit of a fraud as well,
to be honest.
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I felt as if I was gonna get
found out really quickly
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that I wasn't actually
meant to be doing the job.
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I still feel a bit like that.
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This show that we're currently
curating is called
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"China:
Through the Looking Glass."
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It's a collaboration between
the Costume Institute
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and the
Department of Asian Art.
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We want to show how
Western fashion designers
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look to China for inspiration.
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There is this ongoing dialogue
between the East and the West.
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And fashion is easier
to understand
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than language itself.
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Every show I do
is quite personal
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and I'm so tired of hearing how
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McQueen is the most successful
show we've ever done.
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It would be nice if China
was able
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to knock it off its pedestal.
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Bolton: It's like the
Great Wall of China.
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(Wintour chuckles)
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- Let's start at the beginning
- Wintour: Wow!
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- Wintour:
- It's huge. Yeah.
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Bolton: We have a
whole section based on
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blue and white porcelain.
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Starting with a really early one
from Molyneux from the 20s.
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- And then Sarah's from...
- Wintour: They were amazing.
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Bolton: This is Guo Pei,
a Chinese designer.
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Cavalli, Karl, Rodarte...
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That leads into
St. Laurent's Chinese collection
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- and his Opium scent.
- Okay.
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We're borrowing one of those
from the St. Laurent archive.
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But the big presence really
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is John's Chinese collection
for Dior.
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Oh, wow!
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Look at the fullness.
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Love his tailoring.
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Bolton: Galliano is a designer
who is difficult to unpack.
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Because he's collaging
all these ideas
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into a particular collection.
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He's taken the idea of
the 18th Century panier,
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which is normally at the side
of the gown,
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and twisted it around
so its frontal.
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He's doing so many references
to the Bowery, the Queen Mother.
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Eighteenth century,
Peking opera, Kabuki.
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He's an amazing storyteller
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on the level of
fantasy and romance.
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So I wanted to interview John
because he looks at China
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constantly for inspiration.
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What surprised me was how
consistent China was as
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an inspiration in your work
and I just wanted to find out,
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why China?
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I think it was
that sense of mystery and...
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...danger, but only danger that
you've got that feeling
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through portrayals
from Hollywood.
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There's mixtures of Chinese
opera, geisha
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and the Queen Mother...
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I don't think I set out to
recreate China.
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As you can see,
I certainly didn't achieve it.
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So, it was a fantasized...
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...vision of China.
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A fictional character develops,
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and I kinda, like,
start living it,
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breathing it.
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Paint the picture who she is,
how she looks by candle light.
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Can you smell that
powdery lipstick?
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I like to express my emotion
through the cut.
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Each time you cut a fabric,
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it's a different
relationship you have to it.
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It can be like
mercurial liquid oil.
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Or like licorice.
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The creative process
is my meditation.
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Playing with textures
and shapes and volumes...
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That's something that I love.
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And because of that,
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I am able to
to even think about
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going back into an industry
where I've become an outcast.
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That fantasy world that
I create is an escape for me.
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(indistinct chatter)
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Bolton: John weaves these
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very personal
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and seemingly bizarre narratives
into his fashion.
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It's quite easy to dismiss
fashion designer's
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engagement with China,
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as being inauthentic.
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But I want to focus on these
works of art that are
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extraordinary examples of
a designer's imagination.
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You think about someone
like Saint Laurent...
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He absolutely changed
the course of fashion history.
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There's about 2,000 pieces
in total haute couture?
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I think it's more.
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- Between 5,000 and 6,000.
- Six thousand.
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- So beautiful...
- It's a Mondrian.
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You've got so many of them.
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Yeah, we have different
versions.
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Bolton: The Mondrian dress,
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with the idea of lining up
the stripes.
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It's such tour de force,
isn't it?
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Bolton: It looks very easy.
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It's such a complicated thing
to achieve.
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It's so radical.
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Do you have the '71?
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- Seventy-one fur, yeah!
- You do.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Bolton: The craftsmanship that
went Saint Laurent's clothes,
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his usage of embroidery,
the element of camp...
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It's iconic.
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Bolton: They are unquestionably
works of art.
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Oh, my goodness,
I haven't seen that before.
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It's very modern.
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Unbelievable.
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Bolton: I see so much
magic still in fashion.
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It's just overwhelming.
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A dream come true.
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(chuckles)
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Bolton: I grew up in
a small town in England.
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And the only access
I had to fashion were
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star magazines,
emerging in the 80s.
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I just missed
the punk movement.
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The first movement that
I really engaged with
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was New Romanticism.
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Which was all about
gender blurring.
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I remember seeing people
on the streets
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thinking how they looked like
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they'd arrived
from another planet.
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But also how brave they were.
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I was so impressed by the power
of fashion
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to confront gender
and sexuality.
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That's never left me, anyway.
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You're still that little kid
from Lancashire who...
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...is totally in awe.
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Ah, Lawrence,
where is Singh, please?
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- Lawrence:
- Okay.
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Wintour:
The Costume Institute and Vogue
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have a long history together.
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Diana Vreeland actually ran it
after she left Vogue.
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Please don't stand there!
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Wintour: We have one major party
every year
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to raise funds for
the Costume Institute.
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The party supports
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our operating budget
for the entire year.
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Koda: The Met Gala
was the invention of
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this small group of
fashion professionals.
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It was relatively small,
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but the department itself
was very small.
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Bolton: Anna's taking it
to a different level,
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in terms of the money that
she's raised over the years.
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$120 million
for our department alone.
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Michelle Obama:
Thanks to Anna's contributions,
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the exhibits at
the Costume Institute
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have drawn hundreds
of thousands of visitors
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to this great American museum.
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(applause)
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Since Anna Wintour has
taken over the Met ball,
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it has become the Super Bowl of
social fashion events.
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It starts with months
of preparations,
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not just for the exhibit,
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but for the actual Met Gala.
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Woman: We're starting to plan
for the gala,
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starting to organize
with everything.
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Do we want to talk
about guest count right now?
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I think we should keep
the number as low
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as we possibly can.
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We were 608 last year.
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Okay,
we're gonna start with 500.
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- Five hundred.
- Five hundred.
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Five hundred.
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And everybody is cutting
their numbers, right, Harold?
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- Do we need to talk about it?
- Yeah, we're trying.
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There is the issue of
our partnership with
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the Chinese Department...
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That's another...
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We really have to keep
the numbers down
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and also the free seats.
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There must be another way
that we can accommodate people.
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You'll figure it out.
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Anna is meticulously
vetting every single thing,
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from the napkins, to the forks,
to the lighting...
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The detail of the flowers,
the detail of the ushers,
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the way they're dressed.
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Everything has been vetted
by her for months
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and weeks and months and weeks.
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Okay, is there going to be
somebody literally here?
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We have two people here.
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Will there be
someone there too?
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Yes, we have
literally an army up here.
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It's a full battle squad.
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André Leon Talley:
She has her legions,
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her generals,
who work at Vogue.
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Hi, girls, the plan today
is just to walk through
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the path that our guests
are gonna be taking,
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and also to place you
in your positions.
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So if you could make
your way up the stairs,
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just stagger yourselves, girls.
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Please scatter a few steps up.
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Talley:
Now, the Met is a place
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that you consider
very, very correct.
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Very formal.
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Anna has taken that
out of the Met.
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Photographer: Happy!
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Sylvana Ward Durrett:
We have Dave Franco,
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and then who's the other one
you were saying?
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Josh Hartnett.
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What has he done lately?
Nothing.
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You guys are set.
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You have great
carpet material right now.
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Yeah, you have Kendall!
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Michael Kors has
Liz Banks and Kate Hudson.
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Prada has Emily Blunt.
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Ralph has Anne Hathaway.
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Versace has JLo.
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Beyoncé, Kim and Kanye,
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Rihanna, Kara,
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Amber Heard,
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Chastain, Julianne Moore...
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All of those people are us,
I believe, right?
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Woman: Yes.
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They want to come?
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- We're not completely sure yet.
- Okay.
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Baz Luhrmann: As an icon,
Anna is very unique.
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On the face of it,
she's the editor
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of a very powerful
American-based magazine.
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She's the artistic director
of a whole stable of magazines.
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But that is not really the
power of Anna Wintour.
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Anna's gift
is bringing culture,
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both high and low,
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to cross-fertilize.
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- Hi, guys!
- Hey, Anna!
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- You ready?
- Totally.
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Okay, let's see the walk.
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The Met Gala is a celebration of
a multi-cultural moment.
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Pop and fine art mix in
the Metropolitan Museum.
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Luhrmann: You can have an
acting icon next to
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a musical icon,
next to a political icon.
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It's like a giant aquarium
on that night.
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Durrett: A lot of thought goes
into who sits next to who.
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If they sat next to each other
last year.
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If they sat next to each other
at other events.
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So much goes into it.
It's shocking.
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A lot of power-brokering.
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Alex has six seats,
he's bringing
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Gaga, Miley, Zoe.
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Here's Tory.
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Durrett: Ah-hah.
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She's looking for
one other guy.
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And then Ricardo is
down here with Jessica,
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Julianne and Beyoncé.
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So that's that.
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What Anna has done is
understood that high fashion,
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I mean, the most extraordinary
expression of this medium,
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when it's paired
with celebrity,
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becomes something
bigger than both.
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And that is
what happens on the red carpet.
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When you see Rihanna
in a couture gown,
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it's transcendent.
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Talley:
Each celebrity has been chosen
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to wear a gown by designers.
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It's like assignments.
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The Met, for me, means a lot.
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It's the only red carpet I do.
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Riccardo Tisci: Each designer
brings his own muse.
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A singer, a friend,
a model, an actress.
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You bring the person that most
represents your aesthetic.
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Koda: That attention all accrues
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to the reputation
of the museum.
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I thought he wasn't coming.
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I know, but then he decided
he wanted to come.
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Okay. Can he not be on his
cell phone the entire time then?
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- Mm-hmmm.
- Maybe send him that message.
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Loud and clear.
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- Who's that?
- These are the two H&M people.
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Wintour:
We shouldn't bury this table.
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Seriously.
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- Yes.
- That's not fair.
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- Okay.
- Okay?
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And then who are these people?
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Those are people who
I'm hoping will go away.
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Okay.
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The exhibition, "China through
the Looking Glass,"
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will present
an image of China
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that is a fabulous invention.
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Often film is the first lens
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through Western designers
encounter Chinese imagery.
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And the exhibition will explore
the impact of movies
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in shaping their fantasies.
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The film perhaps that's had the
greatest influence on designers,
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is Wong Kar Wai's
In the Mood for Love.
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No one has made the chi-pao
look quite as beautiful
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on screen as Wong Kar Wai.
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In the Mood for Love,
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I would see it many times
and I love it.
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It was like a truly,
like, beautiful gesture.
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The colors were fantastic.
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It's after that that I did
my Chinese collection.
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I think is must be like
one year after.
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It's good even not
to go to the country!
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It's better, I think,
like to see through a book,
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or to see all movie,
on the souvenir you have.
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Bolton: We thought Kar Wai was
the right choice
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to be the artistic director
of the exhibition.
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Bolton: We're working on
the exhibition
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design concepts still.
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We're having the films
be the filter
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between the art objects
and the high fashions.
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Sometimes directly related,
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and sometimes more of
a metaphorical device.
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I would love the films
to be projected,
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so that they're almost these
spectral figures
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throughout the show.
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Because I don't think this show
will have a linear narrative.
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Now the structure of the show
is more like a Chinese garden.
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You have an entrance,
but then you're free to walk.
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That's a really good point.
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Kar Wai:
So, I would use this medium
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to create a continuity
and, also, the expression.
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Bolton: There's two venues
for the exhibition.
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We have
the Costume Institute galleries
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in the basement of the museum,
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and then we also have
the Chinese galleries
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on the second floor.
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The Chinese galleries
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themselves weren't designed
for costumes,
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they were designed for
flat works of art.
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So incorporating costume
within them
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is challenging,
to say the least!
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Mike Hearn: We have over
50 galleries
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of Asian art at the Met,
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so it's probably the most
comprehensive collection
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of Asian art anywhere.
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00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:44,806
There are bigger collections of
Chinese art in China obviously.
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There's better collections of
Cambodian art in Cambodia.
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But we do a pretty good job.
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What I want to do is
do these 20-foot plexi-rods of
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different sizes of that
naturally bend and light them.
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So this is the first room
that you see.
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Yes, bamboo forest.
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The bamboo platform comes
all the way out here,
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then it turns.
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The height of the bamboo
goes just underneath
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- the Arthur Sackler...
- Bolton: Gallery.
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Nathan Crowley:
As you walk to the great
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early Buddha sculpture hall,
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you are transported
into another world.
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We tried to show Chinese art
from the perspective
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of the Chinese themselves.
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It's not Disneyland.
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I'm gonna put a
14-foot wide platform
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by 12-foot platform here.
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Cover this with a grey mirror.
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00:29:32,646 --> 00:29:34,523
I think Mike thought it might
look a bit too Disney.
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We're gonna have panels anyway.
I think we just make them.
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Bolton: The curators in
the Asian Art Department
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were worried about
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some of the topics
the exhibition was addressing.
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It opens up debates
about colonialism,
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Orientalism,
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which could be interpreted
as being racist.
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Hearn: For the West,
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it didn't matter
whether we're talking about
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China, Japan, Korea.
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All of that was somehow
lumped together as "Oriental."
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00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:07,306
And I think there's still
a really strong sense
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that China has been
taken advantage of,
485
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maybe misunderstood,
by the West.
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00:30:22,696 --> 00:30:24,281
Isn't this place marvelous?
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Look at those faces.
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Hindu, Chinese, Portuguese,
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Filipinos, Russians,
Malaya.
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00:30:29,869 --> 00:30:31,580
I didn't think such
a place existed
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except in my own imagination.
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Bolton: So many designers
reference China
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through the films of the 30s.
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00:30:41,131 --> 00:30:43,342
It's the China
that is the stereotype.
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00:30:44,718 --> 00:30:47,513
And I want to sort of
deconstruct those stereotypes.
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And tease out some of the
complexities and the dangers,
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but also the romance of them,
as well.
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Anna May Wong was
a Hollywood starlet
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in the 30s and 40s,
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who was fated to play
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stereotypes of
the Chinese woman.
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And it's either
the Lotus Blossom,
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or the Dragon Lady,
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00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,627
which is basically
an Orientalized femme fatale.
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Don't do anything foolish.
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The Dragon Lady is a figure
who projects our fears
507
00:31:24,132 --> 00:31:26,510
and desires and
anxieties onto you.
508
00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:30,389
She is quasi-matriarchal,
509
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:33,392
she is financially independent,
she's sexually liberated.
510
00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:37,688
She in a way lends herself
to a feminist interpretation...
511
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:41,650
...because the Dragon Lady
has become a way to represent
512
00:31:41,692 --> 00:31:42,860
any powerful woman.
513
00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:46,572
I though the gentleman in the
black night gown was the boss.
514
00:31:46,613 --> 00:31:48,782
Who, Money Bags?
He's an errand boy.
515
00:31:49,324 --> 00:31:51,451
The real boss is
a remarkable lady,
516
00:31:51,493 --> 00:31:54,413
the most cold-blooded
dragon you will ever meet.
517
00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:58,124
She'll devour you like a cat
swallows a mouse.
518
00:32:11,971 --> 00:32:13,139
I've never seen
anything like it.
519
00:32:13,181 --> 00:32:15,058
You walk in and this
is what you see?
520
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:16,560
It's not possible.
521
00:32:16,976 --> 00:32:18,395
This is the reception area?
522
00:32:18,437 --> 00:32:19,563
Man: This is when you walk in...
523
00:32:19,605 --> 00:32:20,355
The racks?
524
00:32:20,397 --> 00:32:22,107
I need to look at a plan.
525
00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:26,111
This is not what you want to see
when people walk in.
526
00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:28,947
Okay, so this has to go. Xavier,
are you listening to me?
527
00:32:28,988 --> 00:32:30,198
- Yes.
- Okay.
528
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,950
All this furniture here
should go.
529
00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:33,243
Get rid of all that.
530
00:32:33,535 --> 00:32:35,454
It has to look like an area
that you walk into.
531
00:32:35,495 --> 00:32:37,289
- That it's professional.
- Yes.
532
00:32:37,330 --> 00:32:40,667
Not like a second-hand
vintage store.
533
00:32:41,835 --> 00:32:43,754
No, no, no,
in the closet.
534
00:32:45,297 --> 00:32:47,466
What about the lobby furniture?
535
00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:49,259
I didn't even look at that.
536
00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:51,428
This is making me feel
violently ill.
537
00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:53,513
Take the whole thing out.
It's horrible.
538
00:32:53,555 --> 00:32:55,223
It's just gonna give people
a headache.
539
00:32:55,265 --> 00:32:57,434
Are we able to soften it
a little bit so it's not...
540
00:32:57,476 --> 00:32:59,102
So it doesn't look like a disco.
541
00:33:02,021 --> 00:33:04,441
(indistinct speech)
542
00:33:05,024 --> 00:33:08,069
Let me say something about
the Dragon Lady image.
543
00:33:08,946 --> 00:33:10,489
Anna has a public image.
544
00:33:10,530 --> 00:33:12,240
Hi, thank you for joining us.
545
00:33:12,282 --> 00:33:14,284
Anna Wintour, welcome to CNN.
546
00:33:14,326 --> 00:33:16,244
Luhrmann: A lot of that is
absolutely true,
547
00:33:16,286 --> 00:33:19,957
but I do think that if
Anna was a man,
548
00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:23,502
there might be
less focus on that.
549
00:33:23,543 --> 00:33:25,879
Because of your success
and your determination,
550
00:33:25,921 --> 00:33:28,507
you've earned a reputation of
being intimidating.
551
00:33:28,548 --> 00:33:29,800
Is that unfair?
552
00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:33,762
Um, I think I'm decisive,
553
00:33:33,804 --> 00:33:35,472
and I like to get
things done quickly,
554
00:33:35,806 --> 00:33:38,183
so if that comes across
as intimidation,
555
00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:39,392
I'm sorry to hear it.
556
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:42,646
There are so many
different stereotypes and...
557
00:33:43,605 --> 00:33:44,648
I...
558
00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:48,318
...think if one is bothered
by it,
559
00:33:48,986 --> 00:33:53,198
...it's a little bit fruitless
because it's out there.
560
00:33:53,239 --> 00:33:54,658
Inevitably, I have to ask you
561
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,576
just one question about
Devil Wears Prada.
562
00:33:56,618 --> 00:33:58,453
A former assistant
wrote the book,
563
00:33:58,495 --> 00:33:59,997
later turned into a movie.
564
00:34:00,372 --> 00:34:03,124
Do you feel that that
was a breach of trust?
565
00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:06,044
Ah, well...
566
00:34:06,378 --> 00:34:07,754
It's part of life.
567
00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:09,882
Stereotypes always
are going to exist,
568
00:34:09,923 --> 00:34:11,800
is what you do with them,
what you make of them.
569
00:34:11,842 --> 00:34:14,344
I think that she brought
attention to fashion,
570
00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:17,389
in a way... You can look at
it in a negative way,
571
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:18,765
or in a positive way.
572
00:34:18,807 --> 00:34:20,976
I choose to look at it
in a positive way.
573
00:34:21,018 --> 00:34:24,103
In some ways, I think
I should be grateful to her.
574
00:34:24,521 --> 00:34:27,607
Luhrmann: I've seen her recently
play herself,
575
00:34:27,649 --> 00:34:30,944
and she plays the person
everyone thinks she is.
576
00:34:32,153 --> 00:34:35,448
But it's a character.
It's kind of her "work armor."
577
00:34:36,491 --> 00:34:39,494
(indistinct conversations)
578
00:34:40,453 --> 00:34:42,956
Man: There's an updated
decor concept.
579
00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:46,626
We've floralized
quite a lot of the design.
580
00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:49,546
This is one idea.
581
00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:52,507
And now this is the other.
582
00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:54,426
That might be a bit much
for the carpet.
583
00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,386
I think that we can...
584
00:34:56,428 --> 00:34:57,679
- Tone it down.
- Exactly.
585
00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:00,640
That's a lot of flowers.
What are the flowers underneath?
586
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:03,769
- Looks like wisteria.
- It's wisteria, yes.
587
00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:05,144
Wisteria and bamboo.
588
00:35:05,186 --> 00:35:07,188
What about pale lilac rather...?
589
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:08,565
We can do pale.
590
00:35:08,607 --> 00:35:10,233
Cause I think pale
would look prettier
591
00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:11,985
with the blue
than that dark color.
592
00:35:12,027 --> 00:35:14,404
- I don't like that combination.
- With this color.
593
00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:16,073
- But pale.
- Yes.
594
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:18,825
- We can go back to this.
- Yeah, we'll talk about it.
595
00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:22,203
- Temple of Dendur...
- Wow...
596
00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:23,413
Don't know about that.
597
00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:24,790
Man: What aren't you sure of?
598
00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:27,375
I don't see how you can compete
with the temple.
599
00:35:27,417 --> 00:35:29,335
Whatever you put there
is gonna look fake.
600
00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:31,296
Man:
There's very little we can do.
601
00:35:31,337 --> 00:35:33,214
This is gonna look like
a Chinese restaurant.
602
00:35:34,716 --> 00:35:36,635
I just don't see how
you can compete with that.
603
00:35:36,676 --> 00:35:38,595
- Yeah, no.
- I mean it's, well...
604
00:35:38,929 --> 00:35:40,806
If it was at night,
you have more of a chance.
605
00:35:40,847 --> 00:35:41,807
Yeah.
606
00:35:43,016 --> 00:35:44,559
So my advice is,
I would keep to the bridge,
607
00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:46,519
- I'd definitely do the lilies.
- Bolton: The lilies.
608
00:35:46,561 --> 00:35:49,856
And some decoration and then
some Chinese-type furniture.
609
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:51,817
Okay, thank you.
610
00:36:04,121 --> 00:36:06,706
Bolton: We haven't yet finalized
the design of the exhibition.
611
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,292
We're end of December
at the moment,
612
00:36:09,334 --> 00:36:11,503
so that's pretty late,
in fact, it's very late.
613
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:16,508
Campbell:
One of the big challenges
614
00:36:16,549 --> 00:36:18,551
is the short time period
in which
615
00:36:18,593 --> 00:36:20,679
we are pulling
the exhibition together.
616
00:36:21,096 --> 00:36:23,890
It's the largest costume
exhibition we've ever done.
617
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,519
I really want the pace
to change
618
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,312
when you go through,
so I like the fact that
619
00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:31,690
this is quieter
and more reflective.
620
00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:32,774
And here,
621
00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:35,777
- it's just sensory overload.
- It's just a drawing.
622
00:36:35,819 --> 00:36:36,653
Bolton:
It's proving difficult,
623
00:36:38,155 --> 00:36:40,699
not just because of the size
and scope of the exhibition,
624
00:36:41,074 --> 00:36:43,409
but there's a lot of
conceptual challenges
625
00:36:43,451 --> 00:36:44,870
and political hurdles.
626
00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,914
(speaking Chinese)
627
00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:49,541
Bolton: They're constantly being
brought up
628
00:36:49,582 --> 00:36:51,168
by the Asian Art Department.
629
00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:52,418
Probably this one...
630
00:36:53,753 --> 00:36:54,880
Hearn: What is key for
the success of all of this
631
00:36:54,921 --> 00:36:56,715
is that there is some
conversation with
632
00:36:56,756 --> 00:37:00,510
the Chinese works of art, so
that it is not just wallpaper.
633
00:37:01,928 --> 00:37:04,222
I think bringing
Western fashion
634
00:37:04,263 --> 00:37:06,141
into the Chinese galleries
635
00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:09,102
could be perceived as
a misinterpretation of
636
00:37:09,144 --> 00:37:12,564
who the Chinese are,
what Chinese culture is about.
637
00:37:12,605 --> 00:37:14,858
- (elevator dings)
- (indistinct speech)
638
00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:23,909
This area is fashion
inspired by Imperial China.
639
00:37:24,409 --> 00:37:25,660
So the idea is
640
00:37:25,911 --> 00:37:28,287
the Chinese objects will be
in the perimeters
641
00:37:28,329 --> 00:37:29,789
in the cases and
the fashion's in the middle,
642
00:37:29,831 --> 00:37:32,250
that's the constant
you can see throughout.
643
00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:35,545
We put a color theme
to each of these rooms
644
00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:38,506
by using a light source
around those objects.
645
00:37:38,548 --> 00:37:41,300
So we go from blue
probably to gold
646
00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:43,720
and over to red.
647
00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:46,264
The different light
colors the rooms.
648
00:37:46,305 --> 00:37:48,516
Is that a bit rainbow?
649
00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:50,769
Maybe...
650
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:52,896
Bolton: You don't want to be
fighting with the objects.
651
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,815
It'd be nice if it was a very
subtle glow because otherwise,
652
00:37:55,857 --> 00:37:57,776
your eyes are being dilated
by the light in the--
653
00:37:57,817 --> 00:37:59,819
You don't want it to look
like an amusement park.
654
00:37:59,861 --> 00:38:00,946
Yeah.
655
00:38:02,655 --> 00:38:03,698
All right, let's go on.
656
00:38:04,032 --> 00:38:06,785
So now we go
into the bamboo forest,
657
00:38:06,826 --> 00:38:09,621
so we moved on and become
a little more surreal,
658
00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:11,748
by using lit plexi-rod.
659
00:38:12,249 --> 00:38:15,168
It transfers the light
all the way through the rod.
660
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:17,629
I'm hoping over 20 foot
661
00:38:18,213 --> 00:38:20,090
it would still maintain
a lot of that light.
662
00:38:20,506 --> 00:38:21,716
Bolton: That's great.
663
00:38:22,425 --> 00:38:23,676
And you're okay, Mike?
664
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:27,013
What we want to be careful about
is just making sure that
665
00:38:27,055 --> 00:38:30,349
between the costumes
and the bamboo forest,
666
00:38:30,767 --> 00:38:33,728
that we don't completely
obscure the sculptures there.
667
00:38:34,353 --> 00:38:36,064
My goal is just
to make sure that
668
00:38:36,106 --> 00:38:37,941
the Chinese objects
really look their best,
669
00:38:37,983 --> 00:38:40,526
and that they aren't
overshadowed or
670
00:38:41,069 --> 00:38:43,488
demeaned by whatever
we do design-wise.
671
00:38:43,529 --> 00:38:45,615
But obviously for the run
of this exhibition,
672
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,826
those objects are
going to be not...
673
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:49,786
They're gonna be
less accessible.
674
00:38:50,453 --> 00:38:53,039
But there's plenty of other
things for people to see.
675
00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:56,584
I generally like the idea,
but I just want to
676
00:38:56,626 --> 00:38:59,671
exercise as much discretion
as possible,
677
00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:01,798
so that nobody comes around
and just says
678
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,677
we're using Chinese art
as just a stage prop.
679
00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:09,514
In the architectural drawings,
680
00:39:09,555 --> 00:39:11,891
I created all these sight lines
to the artwork.
681
00:39:12,558 --> 00:39:14,727
I think there's 700 rods.
682
00:39:16,271 --> 00:39:17,522
Do you think we need that many?
683
00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:20,441
Yeah, I think we might need to
go to a thousand.
684
00:39:21,276 --> 00:39:23,778
Well, yeah, but it takes
a lot to fill a room,
685
00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:25,864
and your room is enormous.
686
00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:29,575
At first, I thought
we'd need 3,000 so...
687
00:39:31,661 --> 00:39:34,164
Which seems like a lot,
but it's not.
688
00:39:40,128 --> 00:39:42,839
Are these tablecloths all
going to be different colors?
689
00:39:42,881 --> 00:39:44,883
Yes, so these tablecloths
are going to be
690
00:39:44,924 --> 00:39:48,427
- the colors of the cushions.
- Yeah, I like those colors.
691
00:39:51,139 --> 00:39:52,390
- Yeah.
- Oh...
692
00:39:52,431 --> 00:39:53,808
- (doorbell rings)
- Okay.
693
00:39:54,809 --> 00:39:56,686
- How are you?
- Hello.
694
00:39:57,436 --> 00:39:58,437
- Hi.
- Hi.
695
00:39:58,855 --> 00:40:00,773
- So much to talk about.
- I know.
696
00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:03,943
Can I ask this question?
How "Chinesey" like...?
697
00:40:04,361 --> 00:40:05,570
We can show you.
698
00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:08,489
Like, how chinoiserie is it?
Is the whole thing?
699
00:40:08,531 --> 00:40:10,116
Let me show you a rendering.
700
00:40:10,158 --> 00:40:11,576
Wintour:
What do you think about this,
701
00:40:11,617 --> 00:40:12,952
as you walk up the steps?
702
00:40:14,996 --> 00:40:16,831
Raul Àvila:
Dragons when people arrive.
703
00:40:17,207 --> 00:40:18,457
So that's why...
704
00:40:20,001 --> 00:40:20,960
It's more like an entrance,
like, "Hey, you're in China."
705
00:40:21,460 --> 00:40:23,588
Dragons might be
a bit too obvious.
706
00:40:23,629 --> 00:40:24,923
Can I say this?
707
00:40:24,964 --> 00:40:26,758
I think it's
fantastically strong,
708
00:40:26,799 --> 00:40:28,093
and I think it should be strong.
Right?
709
00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:30,553
But the reason
I'm slightly reticent is,
710
00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:32,764
in terms of the crowd coming,
711
00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:37,143
how much
classical Chinese imagery
712
00:40:37,185 --> 00:40:38,728
do you think they expect?
713
00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:40,605
What they're gonna see
when they walk in.
714
00:40:40,646 --> 00:40:42,982
When you go inside the
great hall, you see this.
715
00:40:43,816 --> 00:40:46,903
Now that I think is
unassailably beautiful.
716
00:40:46,945 --> 00:40:50,573
They say "China" without saying
"Chinese theme park."
717
00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:52,409
I think the double dragons
at the front
718
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:54,119
belong to another show.
719
00:40:54,744 --> 00:40:57,455
Right?
And by the way,
720
00:40:57,872 --> 00:41:00,708
the water slide at the end
of it is awesome, right?
721
00:41:00,750 --> 00:41:02,210
- Okay?
- (laughter)
722
00:41:04,003 --> 00:41:06,214
Is this based
on a Chinese something?
723
00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:10,551
Anna, it's the "something" part
than I'm worried about.
724
00:41:13,763 --> 00:41:17,142
The complexity of the subject
matter itself requires
725
00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:19,852
delicate handling
so we're not misunderstood.
726
00:41:21,854 --> 00:41:24,565
We're working around
the main mine fields.
727
00:41:25,608 --> 00:41:27,068
How many pieces in
the exhibition?
728
00:41:27,402 --> 00:41:29,862
You already got everything
you want to borrow from China?
729
00:41:29,904 --> 00:41:31,656
We're just waiting to hear
from the Imperial Palace.
730
00:41:32,324 --> 00:41:33,992
It would be ideal
to get a Mao suit
731
00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:37,412
worn from one of
the Communist Party members
732
00:41:37,454 --> 00:41:38,663
during the Cultural Revolution.
733
00:41:39,998 --> 00:41:41,540
But, I think, politically,
I think it's difficult.
734
00:41:41,582 --> 00:41:47,255
Mao is an icon, and so there's
a limit to what our Chinese
735
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,426
friends will tolerate in terms
of how Mao is treated.
736
00:41:52,051 --> 00:41:54,053
- It has to be respectful.
- I think so.
737
00:41:55,554 --> 00:41:57,932
Of course, something is probably
going to blow up at any moment.
738
00:42:10,903 --> 00:42:13,906
The building with all the flags
is the National Museum.
739
00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:16,826
Then the one on
the other side of the flag
740
00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:18,744
is the Great Hall of the People.
741
00:42:20,830 --> 00:42:22,707
And this is the entrance to
The Forbidden City.
742
00:42:22,748 --> 00:42:24,250
So you'll see the Mao portrait.
743
00:42:32,591 --> 00:42:33,801
It's incredible.
744
00:42:35,178 --> 00:42:37,555
On display next to me is a dress
by Roberto Cavalli,
745
00:42:37,596 --> 00:42:40,808
whose colors and motifs
pay obvious homage
746
00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:42,560
to Chinese
blue and white porcelain.
747
00:42:43,102 --> 00:42:46,898
Fashion is about ideas.
The way we live.
748
00:42:46,939 --> 00:42:48,774
(indistinct conversation)
749
00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:51,944
Campbell: Guys, you really have
your work cut out.
750
00:42:52,611 --> 00:42:54,780
Our aim is to beat
McQueen numbers.
751
00:42:57,867 --> 00:42:59,244
Bolton: "China,
Through the Looking Glass,"
752
00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:02,247
I think it's going to be
inevitably controversial.
753
00:43:03,956 --> 00:43:05,333
There's going to be dissenters.
754
00:43:06,834 --> 00:43:08,127
But I'm not afraid of
controversy.
755
00:43:09,962 --> 00:43:11,047
And I think the show should be
controversial and provocative.
756
00:43:12,631 --> 00:43:14,050
- Hi!
- Hey...
757
00:43:14,092 --> 00:43:15,843
- Good to see you again.
- Good to see you.
758
00:43:17,429 --> 00:43:19,722
Bolton: So here is where
I'm thinking about putting Mao,
759
00:43:19,764 --> 00:43:21,474
the Buddha gallery.
760
00:43:22,141 --> 00:43:24,269
It's the only space I can think
about putting him.
761
00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:29,107
I think if we can have
the Mao jacket sculpture here,
762
00:43:29,148 --> 00:43:31,276
that would be the centerpiece,
763
00:43:32,110 --> 00:43:33,945
focusing on the idea of
changing nature
764
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,822
of deities within China and
the idea of monumentality...
765
00:43:36,864 --> 00:43:39,492
You'd be able to take out
all these Buddhas here?
766
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:41,827
We'd keep the Buddhas in.
767
00:43:42,828 --> 00:43:45,248
And you put Mao with
all these Buddhas?
768
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:46,332
Yeah.
769
00:43:48,167 --> 00:43:51,379
I think it makes sense
intellectually because of
770
00:43:51,712 --> 00:43:53,631
the deification of Mao in China.
771
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:57,343
I think it would be surprising
to have Mao in that space.
772
00:43:59,887 --> 00:44:01,347
And it makes sense.
773
00:44:08,896 --> 00:44:10,648
You have some hesitancy
still, Kar Wai,
774
00:44:10,689 --> 00:44:11,816
about the Buddhist gallery.
775
00:44:11,857 --> 00:44:13,151
- Yeah.
- You still feel it.
776
00:44:13,192 --> 00:44:15,945
You still feel Mao
might not work there?
777
00:44:16,821 --> 00:44:18,906
Because I think it will be...
778
00:44:19,949 --> 00:44:23,744
First of all, it will be
an insult, too sensitive
779
00:44:23,786 --> 00:44:26,080
for like, not the government,
780
00:44:26,539 --> 00:44:29,417
besides that, it's the Chinese
and also the Buddhists.
781
00:44:31,794 --> 00:44:32,920
And I'm thinking...
782
00:44:33,171 --> 00:44:34,464
Is it nice to get
some controversy though?
783
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,882
Maybe not the way that you want.
784
00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:38,968
Not in this particular context.
785
00:44:39,385 --> 00:44:41,137
Why don't we just put it
786
00:44:41,471 --> 00:44:44,974
just before you walk into
this big Buddhist hall.
787
00:44:45,016 --> 00:44:46,851
You have this Mao section.
788
00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:49,145
- Nice idea, actually.
- Yeah.
789
00:44:51,397 --> 00:44:52,398
There's a lot to see.
790
00:44:54,025 --> 00:44:55,485
The material is so rich.
791
00:44:56,569 --> 00:44:59,780
But try not to make
the show too busy.
792
00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:03,909
Because seeing too much
is seeing nothing.
793
00:45:09,582 --> 00:45:12,418
I think we are all looking
forward to this exhibition.
794
00:45:12,460 --> 00:45:14,253
But also have
a lot of questions.
795
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,381
From the little we can gather,
796
00:45:16,422 --> 00:45:18,550
it seems like there's a lot of
symbols about dragons
797
00:45:18,591 --> 00:45:21,219
and Ming vases.
Why is that?
798
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:23,513
And anything else,
because I, honestly,
799
00:45:23,555 --> 00:45:25,306
I don't want to see
another Ming vase.
800
00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:27,099
I love blue and
white porcelain so
801
00:45:27,141 --> 00:45:29,227
I'm happy to see it
in the exhibition.
802
00:45:29,268 --> 00:45:31,604
I think a lot of
people's questions will be
803
00:45:31,646 --> 00:45:35,692
it seems like the more
contemporary version of China.
804
00:45:35,732 --> 00:45:38,236
It's not really included
in this kind of
805
00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:40,071
imagery, repertoire...
806
00:45:40,112 --> 00:45:41,280
It's not,
you're absolutely right.
807
00:45:42,657 --> 00:45:44,283
That's not the focus
of the exhibition, modern China.
808
00:45:44,325 --> 00:45:46,952
- It's very much on the history.
- Reporter: Yes.
809
00:45:47,286 --> 00:45:49,497
You mention a lot
about fantasies,
810
00:45:49,539 --> 00:45:52,250
but fantasy always entails
811
00:45:52,291 --> 00:45:53,750
misconstrued,
812
00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:56,295
misinterpretation, reality...
813
00:45:56,337 --> 00:45:58,130
So how the Western
perceive Chinese
814
00:45:58,172 --> 00:46:00,091
and how Chinese perceive
their own culture
815
00:46:00,132 --> 00:46:03,428
will be quite different,
from what I gather.
816
00:46:03,469 --> 00:46:06,097
Were you questioning the idea
of fantasy and fashion?
817
00:46:06,138 --> 00:46:08,558
I think if we don't have
fantasy in fashion,
818
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,184
then fashion will never change.
819
00:46:10,226 --> 00:46:13,312
Of course, we all will love to
embrace fantasy in fashion,
820
00:46:13,354 --> 00:46:17,400
but fantasy is
very likely to also entail
821
00:46:17,442 --> 00:46:19,444
misinterpretations
or misconceptions.
822
00:46:19,776 --> 00:46:22,530
So, as a curator, you must
have thought about that.
823
00:46:22,572 --> 00:46:25,533
Yeah, but I think, as Anna says,
all fashion tells stories.
824
00:46:25,575 --> 00:46:27,910
Every item in the exhibition
tells its own story.
825
00:46:28,327 --> 00:46:30,079
All you're seeing in
the exhibition
826
00:46:30,121 --> 00:46:33,124
are designers celebrating
actually Chinese culture.
827
00:46:33,583 --> 00:46:37,044
We're also including the work
of several Chinese designers,
828
00:46:37,086 --> 00:46:39,130
like Guo Pei and Laurence Yu.
829
00:46:39,505 --> 00:46:44,135
Chinese designers also gravitate
towards the same sort of symbols
830
00:46:44,176 --> 00:46:46,011
as Western designers.
831
00:46:46,053 --> 00:46:47,972
It's not exclusively about
832
00:46:48,013 --> 00:46:50,600
the West appropriating
Chinese symbols.
833
00:46:51,183 --> 00:46:53,060
- Thank you.
- Bolton: Thank you.
834
00:47:00,025 --> 00:47:02,236
I think she was really
politicizing it.
835
00:47:02,278 --> 00:47:04,196
...the idea of the West just
plundering
836
00:47:04,238 --> 00:47:05,864
the East for inspiration.
837
00:47:06,407 --> 00:47:08,451
Or the fact that
it's all about the past.
838
00:47:08,493 --> 00:47:11,704
Yes. She just wants everything
to start in 1949
839
00:47:11,746 --> 00:47:13,539
- Woman: Are you good to start?
- (chuckles) Yes.
840
00:47:26,552 --> 00:47:28,554
(speaks Chinese)
China went through
841
00:47:28,596 --> 00:47:33,476
a unique period in its history.
842
00:47:33,892 --> 00:47:36,562
During this period of history,
843
00:47:36,604 --> 00:47:40,525
many Chinese destroyed
their own tradition.
844
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:45,154
But I feel today, it's changing.
845
00:47:47,365 --> 00:47:53,329
I want to integrate
traditional Chinese culture
846
00:47:53,371 --> 00:47:57,124
with modern aesthetics.
847
00:47:59,627 --> 00:48:04,423
Eastern and Western cultures
collide together.
848
00:48:08,761 --> 00:48:13,349
We want to find the wisdom
left by our ancestors.
849
00:48:16,268 --> 00:48:20,732
So now, I am using my skills
850
00:48:20,773 --> 00:48:24,026
to create something
for the nation.
851
00:48:25,695 --> 00:48:30,991
As if I were making a
wedding dress for my country
852
00:48:31,784 --> 00:48:34,286
with love in my heart.
853
00:48:47,299 --> 00:48:49,510
How's the Guo Pei piece?
854
00:48:50,469 --> 00:48:52,722
- Is it heavy?
- Very heavy.
855
00:48:55,099 --> 00:48:57,059
Bolton:
Beijing seems like a dream now.
856
00:48:58,728 --> 00:49:00,271
I was panic-stricken
when I came back
857
00:49:00,312 --> 00:49:02,022
about how much work
we have to do.
858
00:49:04,149 --> 00:49:06,861
Such a crisis point in terms
of concerns
859
00:49:06,903 --> 00:49:10,489
about possible responses
to the exhibition worldwide.
860
00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:15,952
All the Chinese, in the last
few hundred years,
861
00:49:15,994 --> 00:49:17,830
we were always
looking backward,
862
00:49:17,872 --> 00:49:20,207
we forget progress,
863
00:49:20,249 --> 00:49:21,834
modernization.
864
00:49:21,876 --> 00:49:24,044
So the new generation of Chinese
865
00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:25,671
have benefitted
from modernization.
866
00:49:26,923 --> 00:49:29,216
They were afraid
your exhibition
867
00:49:29,258 --> 00:49:31,928
is too much only the past.
868
00:49:32,303 --> 00:49:34,179
A lot of Chinese,
they're wondering
869
00:49:34,221 --> 00:49:37,308
why all this dragon rope,
the beautiful coating,
870
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:39,268
not Chinese modern things...
871
00:49:39,310 --> 00:49:42,313
Modern film, modern art...
872
00:49:42,354 --> 00:49:45,399
How would you represent
through fashion, modern China?
873
00:49:45,441 --> 00:49:47,568
How would you represent that?
874
00:49:49,111 --> 00:49:51,864
The show is also posing
questions like,
875
00:49:52,281 --> 00:49:55,033
what is the contemporary
Chinese aesthetic?
876
00:49:55,701 --> 00:49:58,036
Because there's none
at this point.
877
00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:59,664
Not yet.
In the making.
878
00:49:59,705 --> 00:50:01,499
- So this is in the making?
- Yeah.
879
00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:05,001
So, in a way, looking back
doesn't mean you are nostalgic.
880
00:50:05,043 --> 00:50:08,255
I think
the only way to move forward
881
00:50:08,297 --> 00:50:10,716
is not to forget
about your past.
882
00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:12,510
We confront the idea
883
00:50:12,551 --> 00:50:15,554
of the orientalist
stereotyping of China.
884
00:50:15,888 --> 00:50:17,932
Particularly through
the character, Anna May Wong.
885
00:50:18,265 --> 00:50:21,352
But also talk about
the genuine reciprocity
886
00:50:21,393 --> 00:50:22,728
between China and the West.
887
00:50:29,568 --> 00:50:32,571
We've just got approval
to start building.
888
00:50:34,406 --> 00:50:37,743
So we're on a super-tight
time frame.
889
00:50:47,169 --> 00:50:48,754
(chuckling)
890
00:50:49,797 --> 00:50:51,215
Incredible.
891
00:50:51,256 --> 00:50:52,508
Incredible.
892
00:50:53,926 --> 00:50:55,469
I think the objects
that we've chosen
893
00:50:55,511 --> 00:50:58,430
are really compelling,
really seductive,
894
00:50:59,097 --> 00:51:02,894
and once you overlay them
with the curatorial narrative,
895
00:51:03,602 --> 00:51:04,854
it could be extraordinary.
896
00:51:16,114 --> 00:51:17,616
- Andrew.
- Hey, Mike, how are you?
897
00:51:18,116 --> 00:51:20,411
My biggest concern, Andrew,
frankly,
898
00:51:20,452 --> 00:51:22,621
is just to make sure that people
899
00:51:22,955 --> 00:51:27,125
don't find the intensity
of the installation,
900
00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:28,711
and the kind of...
901
00:51:30,796 --> 00:51:37,135
Shall we say the imposition of
the design
902
00:51:37,803 --> 00:51:39,095
so powerful,
903
00:51:39,137 --> 00:51:42,600
that it overshadows
the intellectual content.
904
00:51:42,975 --> 00:51:44,894
I think what happens with this
905
00:51:44,936 --> 00:51:50,441
is it diminishes the focus on
the intellectual content,
906
00:51:50,482 --> 00:51:54,528
and it just raises the level of,
well, this is all about...
907
00:51:56,072 --> 00:51:57,448
...creating a sense of hype,
908
00:51:57,489 --> 00:52:01,159
which is different from
909
00:52:02,078 --> 00:52:04,830
what your goals are,
and what my goals are.
910
00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:11,670
Bolton: It's a little bit
frustrating because
911
00:52:12,088 --> 00:52:15,633
sometimes there's not an
overall understanding
912
00:52:16,174 --> 00:52:17,718
of the narrative of the show,
913
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,806
but also the complexity
from the design prospective.
914
00:52:22,180 --> 00:52:23,808
So it's just...
915
00:52:24,475 --> 00:52:26,518
Yeah, a bit frustrating.
916
00:52:30,982 --> 00:52:35,402
I try not to listen too much
to other people in terms of
917
00:52:35,444 --> 00:52:36,946
what they expect
the show to be
918
00:52:36,988 --> 00:52:39,698
and to try and trust
my own judgment.
919
00:52:42,994 --> 00:52:47,706
Many people have a superficial
understanding of fashion.
920
00:52:50,208 --> 00:52:54,463
People underestimate the power
of clothes to tell stories,
921
00:52:54,505 --> 00:52:55,965
or to speak to people.
922
00:53:00,636 --> 00:53:02,513
There is the perennial debate
923
00:53:02,554 --> 00:53:06,475
about whether or not
fashion can ever be art.
924
00:53:08,978 --> 00:53:12,356
It has, in some instances,
to do with intention,
925
00:53:12,982 --> 00:53:15,567
that when a designer is
creating something,
926
00:53:15,609 --> 00:53:17,778
they think they're creating
an art work.
927
00:53:18,988 --> 00:53:22,282
Most designers, however,
don't approach it that way.
928
00:53:22,324 --> 00:53:24,869
I never, never, never dreamed
929
00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:28,873
that my clothes should be
in a museum.
930
00:53:28,914 --> 00:53:31,667
I think that fashion is
supposed to represent
931
00:53:31,709 --> 00:53:33,627
what's happening in society,
932
00:53:33,669 --> 00:53:35,671
politically, economically...
933
00:53:35,713 --> 00:53:37,213
The clothes have to live.
934
00:53:37,548 --> 00:53:39,550
It's a little boring,
that designers
935
00:53:40,258 --> 00:53:43,137
say they are artists, especially
when they say it themselves,
936
00:53:43,179 --> 00:53:46,348
thinking, "You're an artist,
one should not be on a runway,
937
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:47,892
but one should be
in a gallery."
938
00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:49,225
So go to a gallery.
939
00:53:49,267 --> 00:53:50,978
What we do is applied art.
940
00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:53,355
Chanel never said that
she was an artist.
941
00:53:53,397 --> 00:53:54,606
She was a dress-maker.
942
00:53:54,648 --> 00:53:56,358
Madame Vionnet was a dressmaker.
943
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,609
Madame Lanvin was a dressmaker.
944
00:53:57,902 --> 00:54:00,529
They wanted to dress
a certain kind of society.
945
00:54:00,571 --> 00:54:01,822
They were happy and flattered
946
00:54:01,864 --> 00:54:03,490
when those women bought
those dresses.
947
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,161
Koda: Of course,
not all fashion is art.
948
00:54:07,494 --> 00:54:08,829
It's not.
949
00:54:09,329 --> 00:54:12,416
Some of it is
purely commercial.
950
00:54:12,958 --> 00:54:16,545
But we still struggle
at the Costume Institute,
951
00:54:16,587 --> 00:54:17,922
because as Americans,
952
00:54:17,963 --> 00:54:20,632
there's a kind of
puritanical tradition.
953
00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:22,927
And we hate the notion
954
00:54:22,968 --> 00:54:27,305
that there might be commerce
associated with anything,
955
00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:29,100
because somehow that
makes it less pure.
956
00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:35,022
But as the definitions of art
have become more elastic,
957
00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:38,358
you know, post-Dada,
post-Warhol,
958
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,321
we're no longer bound by
the 19th century categories
959
00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:45,699
of fine versus applied art.
960
00:54:48,244 --> 00:54:53,665
We never give up on this idea
that something transcendent
961
00:54:54,332 --> 00:54:56,292
can be expressed in that same
962
00:54:56,334 --> 00:54:58,503
very prosaic thing
that you wear.
963
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:02,967
Bolton: I would certainly
classify Lagerfeld
964
00:55:03,008 --> 00:55:05,510
as an artist, even though
he always refutes it.
965
00:55:07,096 --> 00:55:08,931
The application
of his embroideries,
966
00:55:09,514 --> 00:55:11,058
it's an artistic expression.
967
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:12,601
(indistinct conversation)
968
00:55:12,643 --> 00:55:15,062
When you discover someone
like John Galliano,
969
00:55:15,104 --> 00:55:18,941
you really are in the presence
of a true artistic genius.
970
00:55:19,524 --> 00:55:20,567
This is strange.
971
00:55:21,777 --> 00:55:22,444
This is like seeing a child you
haven't seen
972
00:55:22,486 --> 00:55:24,280
for a very long time.
973
00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:27,449
Some of those stitches
you're not allowed to do anymore
974
00:55:27,491 --> 00:55:29,034
because they'll turn you blind.
975
00:55:29,701 --> 00:55:31,829
It's not for me to say
it's art or not,
976
00:55:31,870 --> 00:55:33,747
but, certainly, the way
we apply some things
977
00:55:33,789 --> 00:55:35,124
and the inspiration we took...
978
00:55:37,501 --> 00:55:39,878
We did some wonderful things.
979
00:55:40,296 --> 00:55:41,713
Wonderful things.
980
00:55:46,177 --> 00:55:49,680
Koda: There is something about
the human impulse
981
00:55:49,721 --> 00:55:52,850
to communicate and express.
982
00:55:57,604 --> 00:56:00,607
An encyclopedic museum
like the Met
983
00:56:00,649 --> 00:56:03,568
attempts to gather together
984
00:56:03,902 --> 00:56:07,281
the most extraordinary
manifestations
985
00:56:07,323 --> 00:56:08,699
of those impulses.
986
00:56:25,090 --> 00:56:26,842
Keith, it's Sylvana.
Can you give me a call back?
987
00:56:26,884 --> 00:56:29,636
I just want to talk about
Rihanna's budget. Call me. Bye.
988
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:34,350
So, Rihanna...
989
00:56:35,184 --> 00:56:37,519
- Keith: (over phone) Yeah.
- We can't lose her, right?
990
00:56:37,561 --> 00:56:41,773
So, is it just that she has
a larger crew than Kanye did?
991
00:56:41,815 --> 00:56:45,443
She has a massive team
that she travels with,
992
00:56:45,485 --> 00:56:46,904
and that's how she rolls.
993
00:56:48,906 --> 00:56:50,615
Originally, the budget was
over (bleep) hundred thousand.
994
00:56:50,657 --> 00:56:53,244
I told not to even send it
to me until they worked on it,
995
00:56:53,285 --> 00:56:55,746
because it was a non-starter,
so they went back,
996
00:56:55,787 --> 00:56:57,122
and they sent me a budget
997
00:56:58,707 --> 00:57:00,209
that lowered it (bleep)
hundred thousand.
998
00:57:00,251 --> 00:57:01,626
And I said, you know,
this is a charity so...
999
00:57:01,668 --> 00:57:03,879
She's expensive, period.
1000
00:57:03,921 --> 00:57:08,008
We knew it, we just didn't
realize how expensive.
1001
00:57:08,342 --> 00:57:10,886
So, I think talk to Anna
and see,
1002
00:57:10,928 --> 00:57:13,471
you know, if she can
set that gentle note,
1003
00:57:13,889 --> 00:57:16,100
thanking them,
but at the same time...
1004
00:57:16,141 --> 00:57:18,143
- Gentle nudge.
- Anything you can do.
1005
00:57:18,476 --> 00:57:19,644
Yeah.
1006
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:23,481
I'm breaking out
in hives right now.
1007
00:57:25,276 --> 00:57:26,777
(phone ringing)
1008
00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:27,945
Hi.
1009
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,615
Okay, I don't know what to say.
I have no answer.
1010
00:57:31,656 --> 00:57:33,617
She is one of the biggest acts
in the world.
1011
00:57:33,658 --> 00:57:36,745
It's about twice as much
as any performer we've ever had.
1012
00:57:37,495 --> 00:57:41,625
They're not interested in making
it come down any further.
1013
00:57:41,666 --> 00:57:43,085
They feel that
they've done a lot.
1014
00:57:43,668 --> 00:57:46,838
So it's gonna take
a higher level ask...
1015
00:57:47,631 --> 00:57:49,049
You know, from you.
1016
00:57:50,342 --> 00:57:51,676
(chuckles)
1017
00:57:52,510 --> 00:57:55,013
Yes, that would be perfect.
1018
00:58:01,395 --> 00:58:03,814
Luhrmann: We live for
a cultural experience,
1019
00:58:03,855 --> 00:58:04,898
to feel like we're not alone,
1020
00:58:06,191 --> 00:58:07,484
to learn something
about ourselves,
1021
00:58:07,525 --> 00:58:09,361
to revel in the human journey.
1022
00:58:10,195 --> 00:58:12,990
But of course, there's glamour,
and of course there's...
1023
00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:15,033
"What are the parties like?"
And there's gossip.
1024
00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:21,165
But if it takes a little bit of
Rihanna dancing on the tabletop
1025
00:58:21,206 --> 00:58:23,541
to get the attention,
then so be it.
1026
00:58:24,460 --> 00:58:26,878
And then Jennifer Lawrence
comes up and speaks,
1027
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,422
Guong Lee speaks,
1028
00:58:28,464 --> 00:58:31,133
and then Jennifer Lawrence says,
"Ladies and gentlemen...
1029
00:58:31,591 --> 00:58:32,884
...Rihanna."
1030
00:58:34,219 --> 00:58:37,055
Wintour:
In the world that we work in,
1031
00:58:37,848 --> 00:58:40,684
you need the mixture of art
and commerce.
1032
00:58:40,725 --> 00:58:41,977
You need both.
1033
00:58:43,479 --> 00:58:44,771
Too much of one or the other
would not work.
1034
00:58:44,813 --> 00:58:46,523
They have to exist...
1035
00:58:46,564 --> 00:58:47,649
hand-in-hand.
1036
00:58:48,066 --> 00:58:50,568
If you could say one brief thing
1037
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:52,446
about two cultures
coming together.
1038
00:58:52,488 --> 00:58:53,655
That's what I want to say again.
1039
00:58:53,697 --> 00:58:55,199
I want to say thank you.
1040
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,492
- Two cultures.
- Yeah.
1041
00:58:56,533 --> 00:58:57,826
You're gonna be incredible.
1042
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,203
Beautiful.
1043
00:59:00,829 --> 00:59:02,122
I can't wait.
1044
00:59:02,456 --> 00:59:03,707
I feel better now.
1045
00:59:03,748 --> 00:59:05,583
No, no, no.
It's gonna be amazing.
1046
00:59:20,474 --> 00:59:22,434
It's always so calm up here.
1047
00:59:22,476 --> 00:59:24,269
That's because nothing's
going in.
1048
00:59:26,771 --> 00:59:28,273
Wow, it's a lot of work.
1049
00:59:30,734 --> 00:59:34,405
Bolton: So we can't install
until the lights arrive, okay?
1050
00:59:34,446 --> 00:59:35,822
The lights are one week late.
1051
00:59:35,864 --> 00:59:37,949
Why are they late?
Because they're not ready?
1052
00:59:38,283 --> 00:59:40,660
I don't know.
It's beyond me why.
1053
00:59:42,829 --> 00:59:47,042
We're already eight days late
on the panels delivery,
1054
00:59:47,084 --> 00:59:48,585
according to the schedule.
1055
00:59:48,626 --> 00:59:49,878
We just did the math,
1056
00:59:50,128 --> 00:59:53,465
at this rate, we're talking
about 6.8 days...
1057
00:59:53,507 --> 00:59:54,758
Middle of next week.
1058
00:59:54,799 --> 00:59:58,053
And obviously that doesn't work.
1059
00:59:58,095 --> 01:00:00,972
We gotta be realistic,
that we know what we're doing.
1060
01:00:01,515 --> 01:00:02,807
We're out of time.
1061
01:00:03,892 --> 01:00:06,353
How much overlap is there
between building
1062
01:00:06,395 --> 01:00:08,188
and art installation?
1063
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:09,356
There can't be any.
1064
01:00:09,856 --> 01:00:11,442
So you've got ten days.
1065
01:00:11,483 --> 01:00:14,319
It's flat out now until we open.
1066
01:00:22,702 --> 01:00:25,456
Bolton: We just underestimated
the scale of the show.
1067
01:00:26,415 --> 01:00:29,209
It's like putting three shows
on at the same time.
1068
01:00:32,796 --> 01:00:36,800
I, unfortunately, have a very
organic approach to curating,
1069
01:00:36,841 --> 01:00:40,762
so I tend to change things
as I go along.
1070
01:00:45,476 --> 01:00:47,394
This time around,
we're driving everyone crazy.
1071
01:00:48,228 --> 01:00:51,189
And what is the plan for the
show in terms of lighting?
1072
01:00:51,689 --> 01:00:55,944
Tomorrow, can we start working
on these two galleries?
1073
01:00:56,612 --> 01:00:59,072
Whenever we can get to
something, we do it.
1074
01:00:59,406 --> 01:01:01,408
- That's...
- Who is going to tell you when?
1075
01:01:01,450 --> 01:01:04,911
We walk around and
around and around and we look,
1076
01:01:04,953 --> 01:01:07,831
and we say, "We can do that."
And we go and do that.
1077
01:01:07,872 --> 01:01:10,667
- But we have like 15 galleries.
- Clint Coller: I know.
1078
01:01:10,708 --> 01:01:12,210
It's a huge space.
1079
01:01:12,252 --> 01:01:16,423
We need them to absolutely
place the mannequins.
1080
01:01:16,881 --> 01:01:19,009
- This is...
- This is something that...
1081
01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:21,178
We have to talk to Andrew
about this.
1082
01:01:21,219 --> 01:01:22,220
Right.
1083
01:01:24,764 --> 01:01:26,141
Kar Wai: Andrew...
1084
01:01:26,183 --> 01:01:28,059
- Meet five minutes with me.
- Bolton: Okay.
1085
01:01:28,101 --> 01:01:31,355
At some point, I just need you
to give me mannequins.
1086
01:01:31,396 --> 01:01:33,731
- Mm-hmm.
- Because without the dresses,
1087
01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:37,110
and that's fine,
but you have to tell me,
1088
01:01:37,152 --> 01:01:40,322
which directions
the mannequins are facing.
1089
01:01:40,364 --> 01:01:41,823
- Mm-hmm. Okay.
- Can you do that?
1090
01:01:41,865 --> 01:01:43,074
Yeah.
1091
01:01:47,245 --> 01:01:50,123
The schedule that they
let us know today,
1092
01:01:50,165 --> 01:01:52,083
it means we have, basically,
1093
01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:54,169
two days to install
the whole exhibition.
1094
01:02:05,096 --> 01:02:07,891
We only have a
rehearsal for the temple?
1095
01:02:07,932 --> 01:02:09,476
Worse-case scenario, yeah.
1096
01:02:09,518 --> 01:02:11,102
Monday, you don't have
any rehearsal?
1097
01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:12,103
No.
1098
01:02:13,522 --> 01:02:14,314
There's no time on Monday,
we have to do that Sunday.
1099
01:02:14,356 --> 01:02:15,357
The temple's open on Sunday.
1100
01:02:15,399 --> 01:02:17,734
You're kidding,
that's not possible.
1101
01:02:17,775 --> 01:02:19,027
- Why?
- Why?
1102
01:02:20,529 --> 01:02:21,530
Because we need to rehearse.
He needs to be with Rihanna.
1103
01:02:21,572 --> 01:02:22,864
We have a lot to do.
1104
01:02:24,949 --> 01:02:26,201
We should close it.
1105
01:02:27,744 --> 01:02:29,079
It just means that from the
general public's point of view,
1106
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,497
there is absolutely
no access
1107
01:02:30,539 --> 01:02:32,916
to the entire
north end of the building...
1108
01:02:32,957 --> 01:02:35,001
That's the...
That's... All the...
1109
01:02:35,043 --> 01:02:36,503
They'll come back next week.
1110
01:02:37,962 --> 01:02:39,256
Please, otherwise, it's just...
1111
01:02:40,674 --> 01:02:42,259
Raul is going to have to be up
three nights in a row.
1112
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,969
- It's not human.
- (laughter)
1113
01:02:45,011 --> 01:02:47,138
Okay, the public will come back.
1114
01:02:47,681 --> 01:02:50,141
- All right, anything else?
- No, I think we've covered it.
1115
01:03:03,863 --> 01:03:04,989
It was Anna's
understanding that,
1116
01:03:05,031 --> 01:03:06,866
if he was paying the balance,
1117
01:03:06,908 --> 01:03:08,285
we weren't going
to add those seats.
1118
01:03:08,744 --> 01:03:10,287
Obviously it's more money
for the museum,
1119
01:03:12,122 --> 01:03:13,998
but the problem is we want to
keep this an intimate setting
1120
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,833
because that's why
people come to this.
1121
01:03:16,501 --> 01:03:17,877
We're extremely appreciative,
I just...
1122
01:03:19,463 --> 01:03:21,339
I... I don't know what to do,
We just don't have the seats.
1123
01:03:21,881 --> 01:03:24,509
Wintour: Okay, I could swap
Baz with Harpers.
1124
01:03:26,762 --> 01:03:27,971
And where is Harvey?
1125
01:03:28,012 --> 01:03:29,514
Harvey's right here.
1126
01:03:29,847 --> 01:03:31,308
He won't like that.
1127
01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:35,145
Can we put somebody
better here
1128
01:03:35,186 --> 01:03:37,522
and move them there?
It doesn't have to be Harvey.
1129
01:03:37,855 --> 01:03:39,399
I think Anne Hathaway
should be here.
1130
01:03:41,234 --> 01:03:43,361
We're struggling to make
this work right now.
1131
01:03:43,695 --> 01:03:46,156
We still have three people that
don't have seats at the moment.
1132
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,409
Can we block off the middle part
1133
01:03:49,451 --> 01:03:52,203
and in here, just make
a little hole here?
1134
01:03:54,372 --> 01:03:56,374
Because if we do something
in between these two pillars,
1135
01:03:56,416 --> 01:03:57,959
this is what
they're concerned about.
1136
01:03:58,001 --> 01:03:59,795
This is not art.
This is a pillar.
1137
01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:01,045
Oh no, it is Tiffany.
1138
01:04:02,422 --> 01:04:03,881
- Those are the Tiffany pillars.
- Expensive pillars.
1139
01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:06,677
Wintour: We're trying to work
with you guys.
1140
01:04:06,718 --> 01:04:09,846
You told us what we were trying
to do here was first possible
1141
01:04:09,887 --> 01:04:11,556
then it's not possible.
1142
01:04:11,598 --> 01:04:13,016
And then we move the tables.
1143
01:04:13,057 --> 01:04:14,058
Woman: You have to understand...
1144
01:04:15,602 --> 01:04:17,103
You are basically scrubbing
Engelhardt Court of all the art.
1145
01:04:17,145 --> 01:04:19,564
Wintour: Yes... But this is not
actually about that tonight.
1146
01:04:19,606 --> 01:04:21,775
It's actually about raising
money for the museum,
1147
01:04:21,817 --> 01:04:23,067
which we have done.
1148
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:04,359
Nathan?
Do the lights work?
1149
01:05:04,942 --> 01:05:07,070
We'll know
in the next two hours.
1150
01:05:07,111 --> 01:05:08,446
What happens if they don't?
1151
01:05:11,575 --> 01:05:12,576
Yes, that's better.
1152
01:05:13,243 --> 01:05:15,119
Once you see those together...
1153
01:05:15,746 --> 01:05:17,038
Incredible.
1154
01:05:32,303 --> 01:05:35,432
We'll be finished, you know,
in the next hour.
1155
01:05:35,473 --> 01:05:37,308
Okay, you'll be finished by
the end of the day though?
1156
01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:40,311
I mean, we'll finish by...
Before we leave tonight.
1157
01:06:40,121 --> 01:06:41,706
(indistinct speech
in background)
1158
01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:45,669
Okay, okay, okay.
1159
01:06:46,962 --> 01:06:48,296
Talley: The dress is beautiful.
1160
01:06:48,338 --> 01:06:50,298
- It's so beautiful.
- The dress fits.
1161
01:06:50,340 --> 01:06:51,883
- It fits?
- It fits.
1162
01:06:52,216 --> 01:06:54,010
Maybe too tight here.
1163
01:06:54,051 --> 01:06:56,053
Yeah, that's what
I was thinking, maybe...
1164
01:06:57,263 --> 01:06:58,765
Here, I'll deal with that.
1165
01:07:05,689 --> 01:07:07,273
Talley:
The color is superb on you.
1166
01:07:07,774 --> 01:07:09,442
And what do you think of
the bracelet?
1167
01:07:10,902 --> 01:07:12,236
Mom only like diamonds.
1168
01:07:16,366 --> 01:07:18,409
Talley: So now you should walk.
Walk out of the room.
1169
01:07:21,997 --> 01:07:23,289
Excellent!
1170
01:07:23,331 --> 01:07:25,124
Sexy and soigné.
1171
01:07:28,294 --> 01:07:29,754
It's very beautiful.
1172
01:07:33,257 --> 01:07:34,676
A superb dress.
1173
01:07:42,308 --> 01:07:44,435
Luhrmann:
Anna is kinda beyond legacy.
1174
01:07:45,269 --> 01:07:46,521
I mean, she's got a legacy.
1175
01:07:46,563 --> 01:07:49,024
She could disappear
to Alaska now
1176
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:50,233
and never be seen again,
1177
01:07:50,483 --> 01:07:51,735
dressed as Nanook of the North,
or something,
1178
01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:53,653
and, you know,
she's got a legacy.
1179
01:07:53,695 --> 01:07:55,488
She sent me
the fitting pictures...
1180
01:07:55,530 --> 01:07:58,366
Luhrmann:
She's a big business entity.
1181
01:07:59,242 --> 01:08:03,914
But the whole idea
with the Met Gala...
1182
01:08:04,956 --> 01:08:07,458
it's not a
commercial consideration.
1183
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,211
It's a cultural consideration.
1184
01:08:11,838 --> 01:08:15,091
I don't pretend to be
a fashion historian,
1185
01:08:15,592 --> 01:08:18,720
but I think
fashion should be recognized
1186
01:08:20,221 --> 01:08:22,599
when you see how
1187
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,518
it touches people
and moves people.
1188
01:08:26,019 --> 01:08:28,312
I mean, what more
can you ask from art?
1189
01:09:28,539 --> 01:09:30,249
- My God.
- (gasping)
1190
01:09:30,291 --> 01:09:31,459
Oh, my God.
1191
01:09:31,793 --> 01:09:33,377
She's gonna die,
has she seen it?
1192
01:09:33,419 --> 01:09:35,588
Man: No she hasn't been
here yet.
1193
01:09:35,630 --> 01:09:36,840
My God...
1194
01:09:36,881 --> 01:09:38,174
(chuckling)
1195
01:09:38,215 --> 01:09:39,676
We did it!
1196
01:09:39,717 --> 01:09:40,844
I'm gonna cry.
1197
01:09:45,098 --> 01:09:47,350
Unbelievable!
1198
01:09:50,186 --> 01:09:51,896
Wintour:
Does this go to the top?
1199
01:09:51,938 --> 01:09:53,564
Unbelievable.
1200
01:09:54,231 --> 01:09:55,650
Best one ever.
1201
01:09:58,028 --> 01:09:59,403
How many roses?
1202
01:09:59,863 --> 01:10:01,238
250,000.
1203
01:10:01,823 --> 01:10:02,907
(laughs)
1204
01:10:03,867 --> 01:10:05,160
(applause)
1205
01:10:05,535 --> 01:10:06,911
(clears throat)
1206
01:10:07,745 --> 01:10:08,830
Good morning.
1207
01:10:09,246 --> 01:10:11,166
"China:
Through the Looking Glass"
1208
01:10:11,207 --> 01:10:14,919
is almost three times the size
of our usual spring shows.
1209
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:20,050
In total, there are over
150 costumes and accessories,
1210
01:10:20,091 --> 01:10:21,551
and over 40 designers.
1211
01:10:21,592 --> 01:10:23,469
- (indistinct speech)
- (cameras clicking)
1212
01:10:25,596 --> 01:10:27,057
What a relief that's over with.
1213
01:10:27,098 --> 01:10:28,474
- Yeah, but...
- (smashing)
1214
01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:31,268
(giggling)
1215
01:10:31,310 --> 01:10:32,896
Is that good luck?
1216
01:10:33,646 --> 01:10:35,231
- It wasn't a mirror.
- I'm sure it is.
1217
01:10:35,272 --> 01:10:37,400
Special kudos to Andrew
for surviving.
1218
01:10:37,441 --> 01:10:39,777
It works so beautifully
in the galleries.
1219
01:10:39,819 --> 01:10:40,653
It really does.
1220
01:10:41,696 --> 01:10:42,780
I couldn't agree more.
I'm thrilled.
1221
01:10:43,406 --> 01:10:44,657
I love you.
1222
01:10:45,033 --> 01:10:46,325
Was the speech ok?
1223
01:10:46,367 --> 01:10:47,577
Really good. Yeah.
1224
01:10:47,618 --> 01:10:49,704
Did I sound like
the Queen of England?
1225
01:10:49,746 --> 01:10:52,331
No!
(mocking laughter)
1226
01:10:55,001 --> 01:10:56,335
I'll see you later.
1227
01:10:56,377 --> 01:10:57,837
Probably about two-ish.
1228
01:11:06,221 --> 01:11:08,932
So this is H&M.
This is Veronica.
1229
01:11:08,973 --> 01:11:10,141
Vivienne.
1230
01:11:10,183 --> 01:11:11,434
And this is Cartier.
1231
01:11:11,475 --> 01:11:12,685
That's the best solution,
1232
01:11:14,020 --> 01:11:14,938
and then the small one is
in the middle, right?
1233
01:11:14,979 --> 01:11:16,313
Okay, right.
1234
01:11:16,355 --> 01:11:18,441
- Yeah.
- Let's move this in a bit.
1235
01:11:18,482 --> 01:11:20,902
Yes.
This is such a bad table, but
1236
01:11:21,485 --> 01:11:23,196
someone's gotta take
this table.
1237
01:11:23,571 --> 01:11:24,989
But no celeb, right?
1238
01:11:25,031 --> 01:11:26,908
Chloe Sevigny, Solange Knowles.
1239
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:27,992
Oh.
1240
01:11:28,993 --> 01:11:30,536
But they'll talk to who?
1241
01:11:31,162 --> 01:11:32,705
Odell Beckham.
1242
01:11:33,539 --> 01:11:35,208
Durrett: It's tight,
but it's always tight.
1243
01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:36,834
Wintour:
These are fun people, right?
1244
01:11:36,876 --> 01:11:38,044
It's fine.
1245
01:11:38,086 --> 01:11:40,130
Yeah.
This is fine.
1246
01:11:40,171 --> 01:11:41,631
(laughing)
1247
01:11:41,672 --> 01:11:44,050
He's like, "What are you
talking about? What happened?"
1248
01:11:45,509 --> 01:11:48,221
What is this?
Nylon?
1249
01:11:48,263 --> 01:11:49,931
- Durrett: No
- Silk.
1250
01:11:50,765 --> 01:11:52,683
- Pure silk.
- Made in China.
1251
01:11:58,856 --> 01:12:01,025
(cheering)
1252
01:12:08,116 --> 01:12:09,617
Alright, George, let's do this.
1253
01:12:09,659 --> 01:12:11,494
Let's get this thing going.
1254
01:12:33,016 --> 01:12:34,558
What the fuck is this?
1255
01:12:58,749 --> 01:13:00,793
The other leg.
Let's see the legs.
1256
01:13:00,835 --> 01:13:02,086
- (chuckles)
- Thank you, darling.
1257
01:13:02,545 --> 01:13:04,797
(cheering)
1258
01:13:09,593 --> 01:13:11,137
Talley: Come over here, baby,
come to me.
1259
01:13:11,179 --> 01:13:13,014
Only you can wear
a dress like this.
1260
01:13:13,556 --> 01:13:14,891
The body rocks.
1261
01:13:14,932 --> 01:13:16,642
What do you do
to keep the body rocking?
1262
01:13:17,018 --> 01:13:17,935
What do you do?
1263
01:13:19,436 --> 01:13:21,022
Are you getting good pictures
of the dress and everything?
1264
01:13:36,412 --> 01:13:38,289
Chloe Malle: I was worried
people would take
1265
01:13:38,331 --> 01:13:40,791
Chinese-inspired and do
something wildly offensive
1266
01:13:40,833 --> 01:13:42,710
and actually people
have been very creative
1267
01:13:42,752 --> 01:13:44,712
and done some
really beautiful things.
1268
01:13:44,754 --> 01:13:46,463
Some major headwear.
1269
01:13:57,141 --> 01:13:59,560
(cheering)
1270
01:14:00,853 --> 01:14:02,355
Do you all love Chinese food?
1271
01:14:02,397 --> 01:14:03,606
I do.
1272
01:14:05,108 --> 01:14:05,858
- He doesn't. What do you like?
- No, I love Chinese food.
1273
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:07,151
What's your favorite dish?
1274
01:14:07,526 --> 01:14:09,195
I like fried chicken wings
1275
01:14:09,737 --> 01:14:12,282
and General Tso's chicken
with some shrimp,
1276
01:14:12,323 --> 01:14:13,574
and chicken fried rice.
1277
01:14:13,824 --> 01:14:14,992
- I know you work for Vogue...
- (laughs)
1278
01:14:16,369 --> 01:14:18,495
He works for Vogue,
but you better tell the truth.
1279
01:14:21,624 --> 01:14:23,293
Anne Hathaway is heaven.
1280
01:14:23,334 --> 01:14:24,460
Looks so good, yeah.
1281
01:14:25,878 --> 01:14:27,713
Amanda Seyfried and Justin Long
look adorable together.
1282
01:14:27,755 --> 01:14:30,300
She's in custom Givency couture.
1283
01:14:30,341 --> 01:14:31,675
(screams)
1284
01:14:41,518 --> 01:14:42,686
Cher? I want Cher.
1285
01:14:42,728 --> 01:14:44,397
Someone help me!
1286
01:14:44,897 --> 01:14:46,190
Could you help me?
1287
01:14:46,523 --> 01:14:48,151
Come on here, baby.
Come to me.
1288
01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:51,528
Why did you let that happen?
1289
01:14:51,570 --> 01:14:54,949
Can someone go tell Sally that
the Clooneys did not stop?
1290
01:14:55,283 --> 01:14:56,533
Go tell her now.
1291
01:14:56,575 --> 01:14:57,743
You know the Clooneys
didn't stop.
1292
01:14:57,785 --> 01:14:58,744
So let Anna know that.
1293
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,871
George said hello
but Mrs. Clooney
1294
01:15:00,913 --> 01:15:02,498
did not stop
in her Galliano dress,
1295
01:15:02,539 --> 01:15:03,666
I told Sally.
1296
01:15:03,707 --> 01:15:05,293
We got Justin Bieber, OK?
1297
01:15:12,549 --> 01:15:14,218
Sale bête! Sale bête!
1298
01:15:14,593 --> 01:15:16,595
Darling, wow!
1299
01:15:17,013 --> 01:15:18,222
How does it feel to be
1300
01:15:18,264 --> 01:15:20,724
one of the 100
most influential persons
1301
01:15:20,766 --> 01:15:22,185
- in Time magazine?
- Oh, thank you.
1302
01:15:22,226 --> 01:15:23,602
That is so brilliant.
1303
01:15:23,644 --> 01:15:25,062
I think it's so great
1304
01:15:25,104 --> 01:15:26,981
the way you're supporting
your step-father.
1305
01:15:27,023 --> 01:15:29,525
- Of course.
- It's really beautiful.
1306
01:15:29,566 --> 01:15:31,235
- It's really important.
- It really is.
1307
01:15:31,277 --> 01:15:33,404
We're here with dresses,
but, listen, after all...
1308
01:15:33,446 --> 01:15:34,738
(inaudible)
1309
01:15:46,959 --> 01:15:48,252
Hi, Pat!
1310
01:15:53,007 --> 01:15:55,592
♪ We gonna party tonight ♪
1311
01:15:55,634 --> 01:15:58,388
♪ We gonna turn up tonight ♪
1312
01:15:58,429 --> 01:15:59,889
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
1313
01:16:00,556 --> 01:16:02,058
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
1314
01:16:02,517 --> 01:16:03,767
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
1315
01:16:05,102 --> 01:16:07,897
Michael Kors:
The exhibit is this way.
1316
01:16:08,231 --> 01:16:11,192
Do you know how crazy I'd look
in a head piece like that?
1317
01:16:12,609 --> 01:16:15,154
You could pull
any head piece off.
1318
01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:20,993
Anna May Wong.
1319
01:16:21,618 --> 01:16:24,663
The first Asian movie star.
1320
01:16:30,503 --> 01:16:31,879
Wow!
1321
01:16:31,921 --> 01:16:33,297
That's Dior,
that's John's (Galliano).
1322
01:16:33,339 --> 01:16:35,799
Hudson: I want to wear that
in my bedroom.
1323
01:16:37,343 --> 01:16:38,553
So good to see you.
1324
01:16:38,594 --> 01:16:40,263
Thank you for your flowers.
1325
01:16:43,224 --> 01:16:44,308
How's business?
1326
01:16:51,648 --> 01:16:53,776
- This was my dress, that one.
- Wow.
1327
01:16:53,817 --> 01:16:56,112
It's the white one.
It was a wedding dress.
1328
01:16:57,780 --> 01:16:59,656
That must be an old one.
1329
01:16:59,990 --> 01:17:01,992
1925, something like that...
1330
01:17:02,368 --> 01:17:04,954
- 1924.
- 1924, even earlier, yeah.
1331
01:17:06,872 --> 01:17:08,499
In 1925, it was smaller.
1332
01:17:08,541 --> 01:17:11,961
Not so big volume as there,
but it was short already.
1333
01:17:12,503 --> 01:17:13,629
You're so smart.
1334
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:14,880
History, I know it.
1335
01:17:14,922 --> 01:17:17,216
- The history of fashion.
- Wow!
1336
01:17:18,175 --> 01:17:19,218
(inaudible)
1337
01:17:22,679 --> 01:17:24,515
That is Alexander McQueen.
1338
01:17:24,557 --> 01:17:26,517
They do a lot of work in wood.
1339
01:17:26,892 --> 01:17:29,312
That is also McQueen,
the bolero.
1340
01:17:31,397 --> 01:17:35,610
That could be McQueen,
I'm not sure.
1341
01:17:35,692 --> 01:17:39,029
It's Alexander McQueen,
for Givenchy.
1342
01:17:39,363 --> 01:17:42,241
It's nice mix with
all these things from China.
1343
01:17:42,283 --> 01:17:43,700
It's beautiful.
1344
01:17:44,827 --> 01:17:48,038
I love the Chinese inspiration.
1345
01:17:50,166 --> 01:17:51,208
Wow!
1346
01:17:57,714 --> 01:17:58,715
Man: What's the dress?
1347
01:17:59,049 --> 01:18:01,218
Did you get my message?
1348
01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:08,892
Justin Bieber: How do you think
that would look on me?
1349
01:18:12,813 --> 01:18:15,774
- Alicia Keys: Wow!
- Gaultier: Voilà, that's mine.
1350
01:18:18,653 --> 01:18:20,029
Man: Wow, this exhibit...
1351
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:22,239
Your mood changes
from room to room.
1352
01:18:22,281 --> 01:18:23,782
It's remarkable.
1353
01:18:24,741 --> 01:18:26,160
Keys: Wow!
1354
01:18:26,202 --> 01:18:28,329
Gaultier: Oh, the porcelain.
1355
01:18:28,371 --> 01:18:29,997
Keys: Wow, look at this!
1356
01:18:34,251 --> 01:18:37,338
Gaultier: That's Galliano
for Dior, I think, no?
1357
01:18:37,672 --> 01:18:39,215
Keys: Guo Pei....
1358
01:18:41,842 --> 01:18:44,094
- So gorgeous!
- Oh, my God!
1359
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,263
Oh, my God!
1360
01:18:47,097 --> 01:18:50,059
This room is a dream!
1361
01:18:51,143 --> 01:18:53,937
All the celadon but
with the black lacquer.
1362
01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:55,856
And look at these shapes.
1363
01:18:57,650 --> 01:18:59,402
Like when people say,
"You couldn't walk in it."
1364
01:18:59,443 --> 01:19:01,571
Who cares?
It's that beautiful.
1365
01:19:01,612 --> 01:19:02,988
Kate Hudson: I know!
1366
01:19:07,618 --> 01:19:10,246
(indistinct shouting)
1367
01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:20,923
♪ (Nat King Cole
"Stardust" plays) ♪
1368
01:19:37,981 --> 01:19:39,609
Talley: Oh, I love a girl
1369
01:19:39,650 --> 01:19:42,945
from humble beginnings
who becomes a big star.
1370
01:19:44,196 --> 01:19:46,865
It's like the American Dream,
that's how you do it.
1371
01:19:48,158 --> 01:19:50,786
And just keep going with it.
1372
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,289
I want more train
and more train!
1373
01:19:53,330 --> 01:19:54,290
I want drama!
1374
01:19:55,416 --> 01:19:56,500
I want five people
picking up my thing!
1375
01:19:59,128 --> 01:20:01,046
This is the black Frozen!
1376
01:20:03,090 --> 01:20:05,217
This is the queen of the night!
1377
01:20:06,594 --> 01:20:08,971
♪ (Nat King Cole
"Stardust" continues) ♪
1378
01:20:12,475 --> 01:20:13,850
Queen of the night.
1379
01:20:13,892 --> 01:20:16,937
Breaking up is not enough,
it's not enough.
1380
01:20:16,979 --> 01:20:18,397
- Beautiful!
- Thank you.
1381
01:20:18,731 --> 01:20:20,441
This moment, this fantasy!
1382
01:20:20,483 --> 01:20:21,734
It was made by Guo Pei.
1383
01:20:21,776 --> 01:20:23,694
It took two years to make this.
1384
01:20:23,736 --> 01:20:24,861
And let me just say...
1385
01:20:24,903 --> 01:20:26,656
You are wearing it
so beautifully.
1386
01:20:26,697 --> 01:20:27,823
You are so inspiring...
1387
01:20:27,864 --> 01:20:29,032
- Thank you.
- ...to so many people.
1388
01:20:29,533 --> 01:20:31,160
- Good night.
- Vocal rest.
1389
01:20:31,201 --> 01:20:33,162
Big night! Can't wait
to see you on stage!
1390
01:20:33,203 --> 01:20:34,997
- Thank you.
- Oh, it's got a pink lining.
1391
01:20:35,038 --> 01:20:36,373
Did you get the pink lining?
1392
01:20:37,583 --> 01:20:40,252
♪ (Nat King Cole
"Stardust" continues) ♪
1393
01:20:51,514 --> 01:20:54,600
I need to mainline
pinot grigio to my arm.
1394
01:20:54,642 --> 01:20:55,892
Have a Scotch.
1395
01:20:55,934 --> 01:20:58,395
Scotch in a glass? How classy.
1396
01:21:33,472 --> 01:21:34,139
Oh my God,
1397
01:21:35,558 --> 01:21:36,642
I'm gonna be all by my lonesome
just like high school.
1398
01:21:37,852 --> 01:21:40,062
You can sit with us,
sit with us if you want.
1399
01:21:43,940 --> 01:21:46,610
- Oh, my God!
- Oh, my God!
1400
01:21:47,570 --> 01:21:50,573
(gong sounds)
1401
01:21:51,323 --> 01:21:53,450
Campbell: Could I have your
attention for a moment, please?
1402
01:21:54,702 --> 01:21:58,455
The true star of this evening
is Andrew Bolton.
1403
01:21:58,789 --> 01:22:00,708
(cheering and applause)
1404
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,132
Hello.
1405
01:22:12,302 --> 01:22:14,096
Bill Cunningham: Hello Andrew,
it's quite the success.
1406
01:22:14,137 --> 01:22:15,431
Hey! Thank you, Bill.
1407
01:22:15,472 --> 01:22:19,017
It's such a contemplative space,
it's very...
1408
01:22:19,059 --> 01:22:20,269
- Brilliant.
- Quiet.
1409
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:21,896
When I think
how they allowed this...
1410
01:22:22,312 --> 01:22:23,898
Poor Mrs. Vreeland.
1411
01:22:23,939 --> 01:22:27,902
They killed her with exhibition,
keeping it downstairs.
1412
01:22:28,444 --> 01:22:29,779
The Asian Art Department
has been
1413
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:31,697
incredibly generous with us.
1414
01:22:31,739 --> 01:22:33,115
They have, yeah.
1415
01:22:33,156 --> 01:22:34,658
Twenty years late.
1416
01:22:36,660 --> 01:22:38,537
What's up, Met Ball?
1417
01:22:38,579 --> 01:22:40,330
(cheering)
1418
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:44,627
Isn't it amazing how fashion
can bring two cultures together?
1419
01:22:44,668 --> 01:22:47,504
(cheering and applause)
1420
01:22:48,672 --> 01:22:51,049
I wanna give a round of applause
to everybody here tonight.
1421
01:22:51,091 --> 01:22:54,219
Anna Wintour, thank you so much
for having me.
1422
01:22:56,889 --> 01:22:58,307
Everybody ready to party?
1423
01:22:59,516 --> 01:23:04,271
♪ (sings
"Bitch Better Have My Money") ♪
1424
01:23:50,275 --> 01:23:52,235
(applause fades out)
1425
01:23:52,820 --> 01:23:56,699
♪ ("Wild is the Wind"
by Cat Power plays) ♪
1426
01:28:02,778 --> 01:28:04,988
"Are you both there?
I'll be around 6:45,
1427
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:07,490
Do I need to pick anything up?
I'm gonna say..."
1428
01:28:07,532 --> 01:28:09,451
- Starbucks.
- "Yes.
1429
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,038
Big box of Starbucks."
1430
01:28:13,496 --> 01:28:15,498
Everybody looks shockingly
good this year.
1431
01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:17,333
Yeah, Chloe Sevigny
looked amazing.
1432
01:28:18,668 --> 01:28:21,296
- Spike Lee, he looks great!
- I know.
1433
01:28:22,256 --> 01:28:24,549
You gonna just die
over what Rihanna wore.
1434
01:28:24,591 --> 01:28:26,509
Martin Hoops:
I can't wait to see it.
1435
01:28:28,386 --> 01:28:29,888
- Oh, my God.
- Boom!
1436
01:28:30,222 --> 01:28:31,765
That is excellent!
1437
01:28:31,807 --> 01:28:33,600
It's like a Disney movie.
1438
01:28:33,642 --> 01:28:36,103
Every single one of them.
Boom.
1439
01:28:37,271 --> 01:28:38,480
Yeah, she should be the cover.
1440
01:28:38,521 --> 01:28:40,482
Yes.
Look at her body guard.
1441
01:28:40,523 --> 01:28:41,733
Where? This guy?
1442
01:28:41,775 --> 01:28:43,693
He's brilliant.
He's holding her purse!
1443
01:28:44,194 --> 01:28:46,404
I would hold her purse, too.
I would hold it all night.
1444
01:28:46,446 --> 01:28:47,990
Malle: Oh, my God!
1445
01:28:50,242 --> 01:28:52,286
Hoops: Do you see any
resemblance, David,
1446
01:28:52,327 --> 01:28:53,536
between me and Clooney?
1447
01:28:53,578 --> 01:28:55,330
So he went bow tie-less.
1448
01:28:55,371 --> 01:28:58,458
That's what studs
like this do, David.
1449
01:28:58,500 --> 01:29:00,627
Me and George,
we know what we're doing.
1450
01:29:00,669 --> 01:29:02,337
Malle: That's cool.
Actually that is good.
1451
01:29:02,378 --> 01:29:03,546
Hoops: This is good.
1452
01:29:03,588 --> 01:29:04,965
Now you got her
in a gothic room,
1453
01:29:05,007 --> 01:29:06,508
medieval gothic.
1454
01:29:06,549 --> 01:29:08,010
Ecclesiastical...
1455
01:29:08,051 --> 01:29:09,511
(indistinct)
1456
01:29:09,552 --> 01:29:10,887
Am I being banned?
1457
01:29:11,221 --> 01:29:12,514
Go back to your room.
1458
01:29:12,555 --> 01:29:14,724
- Getting close.
- Go back to my room!
1459
01:29:15,558 --> 01:29:17,602
- We'll do this.
- Malle: That's nice.
1460
01:29:18,436 --> 01:29:19,688
- Spread.
- Right.
1461
01:29:19,729 --> 01:29:21,773
- And then the last two.
- Great.
1462
01:29:24,442 --> 01:29:26,028
Hoops: I think it actually looks
really good.
1463
01:29:26,069 --> 01:29:27,403
Malle: Yeah, I do too.
1464
01:29:37,413 --> 01:29:39,791
I will bet everybody lunch here,
1465
01:29:39,833 --> 01:29:41,710
that when I lay out
that pomegranate,
1466
01:29:41,751 --> 01:29:43,795
she's gonna say,
"Oh, this is nice."
1467
01:29:44,796 --> 01:29:45,714
Yeah.
1468
01:29:45,755 --> 01:29:47,632
Okay, Martin, let's do this.
1469
01:29:48,675 --> 01:29:50,384
The pomegranates...
1470
01:29:50,426 --> 01:29:51,845
just perfect.
1471
01:29:52,179 --> 01:29:53,638
- Martin loves pomegranates.
- Yeah.
1472
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,389
Me and AW have
1473
01:29:55,431 --> 01:29:57,767
a similar wavelength
in our brains.
1474
01:29:57,809 --> 01:30:00,603
She goes, you know,
"Big stars like Derek Jeter."
1475
01:30:00,937 --> 01:30:03,815
I said Jeter! I'm like,
of course, he's the captain!
1476
01:30:03,857 --> 01:30:05,734
I said he should get
a cover line. The captain?
1477
01:30:05,775 --> 01:30:07,819
I think that's almost
on the same par...
1478
01:30:08,195 --> 01:30:11,740
I told you, me and Anna have
same brain, the same brain.
1479
01:30:11,781 --> 01:30:14,534
Cher, Derek Jeter. I mean,
you gotta sell this thing.
1480
01:30:14,576 --> 01:30:16,703
This is not
a niche magazine, you know.
1481
01:30:16,745 --> 01:30:18,247
We gotta get the names
on there!
1482
01:30:18,621 --> 01:30:19,956
They said they're gonna
film the Met,
1483
01:30:21,457 --> 01:30:22,625
but it's not about the Met,
it's about this, right here.
1484
01:30:22,667 --> 01:30:24,418
This is going to be
the whole documentary.
1485
01:30:24,460 --> 01:30:25,962
That's it. Done.
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