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got oh my God
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what we did
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heavy of British heavy metal
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I yes I am sing it man
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for PL
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destruction Sorcerer of death
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by the end of the 1970s the Old Guard of
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British Hard Rock were in you a fair
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amount of trouble lead Zeppelin were
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well past their best they were M and
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drugs Deep Purple had split up Black
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Sabbath seemed very much on their last
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legs Aussie Osborne was on his way out
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so there was a kind of vacancy for
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Saxon vardis Diamond Head de leard Raven
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Tigers of pantang girls schol Angel
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witch Iron Maiden praying mentis
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Samson we were all working we all had
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day jobs I was a car mechanic I bought
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the white Flying V with my money uh I
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bought an amp you know uh so it was
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always a case of one day I will become a
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musician or a rock star or whatever I my
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first job I was a joiner a carpenter but
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um the coal mine paid more money that
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was the key that to work as little as
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possible for the most amount of money so
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I used to work the night shift and I
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would take my base guitar there and play
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at the best guitar in the late' 70s uh
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we decided Ed to form Girls School uh
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and start writing our own material so I
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said to my dad you know the bank of mom
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and dad I said I need a guitar I need a
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marshall stack and he said well if
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you're serious about this he said I'll
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lend you the money but you have to get a
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job and you pay me back 50 a week or
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something whatever it was until you pay
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it off and then I'll take you seriously
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and then not so cool had to get a job in
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a bank for a year to pay my dad back the
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money yeah
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anist am
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I really like Punk the enthusiasm the
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energy but we didn't want to be a punk
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rock band we all had long hair we wanted
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to be let Zeppelin or something so we
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kind of mixed the two we wanted to be
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big and we wanted to write epics but we
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took some of the vibe and the speed from
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the punk bands and then when punk came
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anyone could try so I tried and it
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seemed to work that was the great thing
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about the punk era was that anybody
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could get up and do whatever they wanted
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to do and it gave a lot of people
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confidence to like especially us you
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know cuz we thought you know oh well we
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we can do anything sort of thing you
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know in the 70s it was still a little
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bit hippie you know and people just sit
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cross legs or sit in their seat and
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watch the band it doesn't mean to say
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that they uh didn't like the band you
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know I mean I used I sit down and watch
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bands sometimes but you know we seen the
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punk bands were getting this reaction
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from the audience you know going crazy
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and uh we like that and I think we took
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2 you know better
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grandma oh yeah it sounds very very
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different from kind of traditional
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polished hard rock or heavy Rock really
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it's kind of earthier it's more
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primitive it genuinely feels like
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anybody can make this
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music it doesn't mean that these people
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can't play their instruments because
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they can but unlike a Jimmy pig or for
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instance a Richie Blackmore you don't
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have to be a virtuoso they took the
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blues out of bands like Leed Zeppelin
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Deep Purple so instead of you're have
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going to have to forgive me making
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noises here so instead of it going Dum D
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went you me without
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S I try to roll with your
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punes but keep laying them down you feel
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be a hard time
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men's bands were forced to playing in
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these places which really didn't care
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two Hoops for music sharing a stage with
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local Comedians and all the children
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greet him as he patrols his
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beat meanwhile down south most publicans
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didn't like long hair you know we're not
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oh we're not having that greasy long a
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lot in here those geers that ride
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motorbikes bring the taste of the place
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rock music got a particularly rough deal
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back then new bands were crying out for
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somewhere to play the first gig we ever
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played was a school just on the
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outskirts of Sheffield called Westfield
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school that was back in July
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1978 and a teacher gave us five quid out
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of his pocket the second gig we played
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was in a field and it went dark so two
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cars parked in front of and turn their
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headlights on we got paid £3 for that
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then the next gig we did was that
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actually almost normal we played the
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limit club which is now closed down and
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we didn't get paid at all cuz it was a
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free concert
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we had the Friday night Rock Show on
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radio one with Tommy Vance for four
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hours once a week and that was it
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something had to be
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it's full of kids who are just going
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there to literally hear him play records
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he just played heavy Rock all he played
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and that's where people from around
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London started to this one's called
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hellbent for Lea Neil K was DJ was
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absolutely fantastic mental case um it's
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just a great place to go out over the
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you've also got some ridiculous moments
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that are happening down there it's like
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it's like kids turn up with homemade
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cardboard guitars literally with with
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with C cut out cardboard
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guitars he's out there on the floor he
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he's playing a cardboard guitar so well
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it looks like he's actually playing it I
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thought my God you know what is going on
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here living after midnight the Judas
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Priest
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they were basically the legend that made
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up the soundhouse nation as I called
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them the soundhouse nation we were a
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family Jeff bonal
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magazine I just put an advert in saying
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that the bandwagon is now on the live
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circuit and welcomes de demo tapes to be
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sent to this address and from them I
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will uh select bands with to get gigs at
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the bandwagon but hundreds came tapes
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from everywhere and the sound house from
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then on was very much the it was the the
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gig that everyone wanted on their way up
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and every band wanted to play at the
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soundhouse two young men from East
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London walked into the bandwagon they
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came up to me and they said we'd like
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you to hear our tape and we'd like to
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try and get some gigs here at the
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bandwagon I put his tape in the cassette
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player in my house and I was absolutely
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flawed my skin went all crazy and these
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little bumps all over it the songs were
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incredible key changes speed changes
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vocals choruses to die for and a hard
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Resolute never Tobe beaten message Iron
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far we find out completely different to
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all the other rock bands no one was like
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us because uh it was quite fast but
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quite complicated with come change music
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um but with a punk
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singer and we that that's what made us
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unique no one would like us at all so it
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I and Maiden were a band who'd actually
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been knocking around for several years
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already but they'd only been playing
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around East London so the music press
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didn't notice
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them IR maen as we know them only really
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came together in 1979 when Paul Dio
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joined a singer until then they were
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just a band who were trying to find
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identity it was Neil K who brought Iron
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Maiden to the the attention of the
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world Iron Maiden stayed close to Their
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audience their success has been based up
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till now on small gigs in pubs and clubs
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rather than the large venues of the
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previous generation lead singer Paul Dio
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regards this as an important part of the
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band's attitude I like the smaller
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venues anyway um I've I've always agreed
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with that and the band's always done it
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since we ever started
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thund stick Angel witch Ando black sabat
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between Jeff Barton and Alan Lewis who
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was the editor of sound Allan is
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probably the man who coined the phrase
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the new wave of britsh heavy metal
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because he felt that everything that
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Jeff was writing about needed a name if
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people could identify with that name
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then they would continue to go into the
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music itself it was just a way
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describing a new batch of heavy metal
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bands in the UK and lumping them all
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together uh and and creating a scene
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just to put us in the little niche
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alongside all the other bands and it's
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kind of worked he was writing about it
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with a lot of enthusiasm uh and you know
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in in order to get people excited and
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get behind it and there's me uh in
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starbridge in 1979 thinking oh that's
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exciting cuz I'm in a heavy metal band
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we did five songs on this four track
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demo uh and we sent one to sound to Jeff
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Barton and then sure enough it appeared
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in his playlist Diamond Head demo tape
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and we was like
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oh exciting stuff
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de leopard wrote begging letter after
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begging letter to Jeff Barton asking him
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to come and watch them and he finally
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did in mid 1979 him and the sounds
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photographer Ross Halen went up to
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Sheffield and de leopard were playing at
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Crooks working men's club that night Joe
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Elliot picked Jeff Barton up from the
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station took him to the show got them
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drunk on cheap beer because it was a
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working men's club and the beer was
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cheap and Jeff Bon wrote a glowing
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two-page spread about them and that
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attracted so much attention to De
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leopard they instantly became one of the
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leaders of the
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movement saw you the other
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day Budd it couldn't be you cuz you had
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nothing to
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say he going the way they told I'm AF
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friend now we I can here to the misery
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end Wast wasting my time was shooting
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the line was I'm out of my head Wast I
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wish I
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dead new wave of British heavy metal
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the new way of British heavy metal got
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the world's clumsiest acronym n wob BHM
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which became a word Noam in this country
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though we call it
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Noam because it's the abbreviation but
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everywhere else like it doesn't make any
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sense what is Noam what does it mean for
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a French person or a German person or
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Japanese person doesn't mean anything
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it's just these kind of random
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letters i
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heads
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Headbangers I was very much a loner and
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music up through the the 70s and then
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ultimately the new wave of British heavy
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metal gave me a sense of belonging to
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something and made me
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feel alive and made me feel like I was a
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part of something that was much bigger
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than myself from a Fan's perspective it
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unites it unites a generation of people
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how can we tell that we are united we
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can tell very simply we dress a certain
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way if you go wearing a su or a toxy
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that's going to be ridiculous people
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like to wear their air long and that we
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lever it's more comfortable you know
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it's easy easy going and if you get
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messy you know someone to beer over yet
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you don't have an argument you say okay
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you know sorry about that I thought
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you're fine you can go to a punk gig and
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they're all got Spar air and people see
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us and they know straight away that you
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every work is right most of these bands
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were dressed like the fans and most of
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the fans were dressed like the bands it
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was jeans and leather jackets and denim
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jackets they look like uh me
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like I am now Den jacket or leather
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jacket jacket
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the song that really encapsulates the
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whole new wave of British heavy metal
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and the spirit and the togetherness of
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the fans is is is a Saxon tune called
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Denim and Leather the song Denim and
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Leather is about the new we Bri s met
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that that's what it's about that group
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of bands and that group of you know fans
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and audience that came from that our
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uniform was Denim and Leather so that's
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what I'm singing about where were you in
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79 when the dam began to burst where
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were you in 79 when the dam began to did
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you check us out down at the L
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show are youing
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Den did you R down to the front did you
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for your ticket through the
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ice together it was you that
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the at the time I was a member of the
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Saxon fan club which was known as the
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Saxon militia guard um and I got a
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letter that said can you come to the
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studio to to do some backing vocals
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we're inviting fans to do backing vocals
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on this song that we've got and that
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song was Denim and Leather So the voices
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that you hear on the chorus are the
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voices of real fans and the tragedy for
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me on a very personal level was the day
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of that studio session I was away on
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holiday with my parents and I have to
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say I've never forgiven them because I
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could have been on a Saxon record and
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here I am talking to you instead
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well let's ask this lady here I mean
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you're a heavy metal fan you got tiger
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of panang badge you don't think it's
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sexist then no I don't I don't think
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it's any more sexist than any other for
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of
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girl the reason we ended up as an old
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female band was the simple reason that
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no boys wanted to play with us you know
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they just didn't want to know we started
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to get recognition from um newspapers
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and all the when they heard about this
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female band let's go
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[Music]
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we suddenly thought then we're not
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stupid we thought wow this old girl
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thing you know it's not too bad so the
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boys they didn't want us well we don't
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want you anymore you know
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[Music]
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we've had sisters we've had Mo red with
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TTS which is like you
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know you know honestly
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um really and yeah we've had all these
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sort of things you know um but you know
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we just take everything with a pinch of
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salt we don't we don't care
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[Music]
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[Music]
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he I came back with like the cut million
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pound offer which was fantastic to be on
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the same label as Queen Kate Bush Cliff
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Richard pink Floy we're like wow this
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ising amazing they all they was all
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scared of us they kept away but uh yeah
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it was great The Perfect Storm was
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coming together we thought we made it
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basically because we got a record deal
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and we're in the Studio making an album
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everything was being paid
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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forsh heavy magazine sa iron
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menen Tigers of
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Pang we were trying to get somebody to
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sign Diamond Head you know each as I say
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each time a band got signed like girl
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school like Saxon uh like tigers of pan
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tank you feel we got to get on with it
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you know we had amateur management who
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didn't really know what to do and I
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think they thought diamonded you know
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the best band in the world and they
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could hold out for a big record deal
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like a five album deal and a bit and it
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was possibly a bit
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unrealistic for Iron Maiden
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top of the
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pops music was dead they come from West
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Ham their name is Iron Maiden and they
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got something which they're doing live
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in the studio for you it's called
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Running
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[Music]
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Free I Maiden was the first band to play
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live on top of the pops since the H in
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the late 60s and for us it it's like
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that's our moment our band are on a
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national TV show that is
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unbelievable we out of money out of love
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I got
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nowhere hit the gas here I goe
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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slaugh the moing religion hat night
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I have no
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one when Derek Riggs actually done the
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very first Eddy from the first
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album we was like whoa this is what we
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want you don't have to have listened to
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an Iron Maiden record because you can
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see Eddie and when you see Eddie you
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know what that means even if you don't
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know what the music sounds like when
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you're going through the record stores
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and you're going through the records you
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this go right in your face yeah right
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that will do my first reaction when I
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saw that wasn't isn't that a bit
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ridiculous my reaction was like oh cool
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[Music]
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[Music]
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when Angel witch writing songs about
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Gorgons and white witches and stuff like
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that we don't really think oh isn't that
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just a bit silly we know it is but we
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really accept it because we go yeah it's
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a bit Dar but so what you know what am I
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faced with you know I'm faced with the
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everyday reality of going to school the
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country's in a mess there's been real
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political and social misery in the UK at
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that time so alongside all of this stuff
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that you've got running you know I'm
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really at home to the idea of telling me
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that there's there's a white witch who
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lives down the road you know it's kind
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of funny you
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know Monsters of Rock where have you all
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come from uh to from Paris and two from
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to just for the festival yeah just none
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of us and none of my mates went to that
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first Donnington because we were too
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young but man we really wanted to be
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there and and and it creates something
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where it's like oh what so heavy metal
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can have its own
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Festival it's uh an original advertising
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poster of the seminal first Monsters of
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Rock Festival that I compared in Castle
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dunnington in
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[Music]
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1980 when we walked on stage we probably
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sold 100,000 records in the UK at that
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time so we were we were The Underdogs we
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were like the new the new the new guys
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you know the newer music so we were the
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audience's favorite on that there think
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I was set right up on the front of the
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stage stage right and all I could see
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for the first five rows was fans all
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from the bandwagon they all came
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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Judas Priest absolutely embraced the
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concept of being heavy metal we Define
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ourselves as heavy metal we will dress
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like heavy metal we will sound like
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heavy metal everything we will do is
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heavy metal and that tied them in
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absolutely completely with the NOA
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movement I it made them almost you
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standard pars for it they were both
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influencers of it and influenced by it
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at the same
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[Applause]
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time Jud
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[Music]
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I think Jud PR one of the first ones I
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saw in spandex uh you know but everybody
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had it it was quite uniform for the
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metal bands you know maybe ours were a
562
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little bit tighter than theirs maybe I
563
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,079
don't know so there's this sense of
564
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,680
larger than life kind of behavior that
565
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exists in the new wave of British heavy
566
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metal there's this kind of idea that you
567
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want to amplify what you're doing Maiden
568
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,599
do it brilliantly but even other bands
569
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:39,359
do that in the way in which they dress
570
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they start wearing Spandex they start
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looking a certain way but the Pinnacle
572
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of it is when Venom
573
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[Music]
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arriv their photo shoots involve scar s
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they involve like dry ice they involve
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all as if they are the biggest band in
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the world and of course they're not
578
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they're not they the three guys from you
579
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know the north of England signed to an
580
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independent label
581
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[Music]
582
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:34,839
heavy metal started spreading
583
00:37:34,839 --> 00:37:36,839
internationally too you know word of it
584
00:37:36,839 --> 00:37:40,119
got around um people in America or in
585
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Switzerland or in Scandinavia who were
586
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getting copies of sounds on import all
587
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the rock press at that time I think was
588
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very important with keeping this thing
589
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going supporting the bands you know put
590
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putting it out there here we go
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[Music]
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Diamond Head have released all their own
593
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records up until that point they are a
594
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cult band They genuinely have done it
595
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themselves in the minds of us the F they
596
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are huge there's 10 or 15 of their songs
597
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that
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are among the very very best not just
599
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,160
new waiver British heavy metal songs but
600
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heavy metal songs in general
601
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period
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either I got to set
603
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all got to make it
604
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man I grew up in Copenhagen Denmark
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then we ended up uh my family and I
606
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,960
ended up moving to Los Angeles in the
607
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summer of
608
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1980 those years it was a
609
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,839
very uh lonely and autonomous experience
610
00:39:10,839 --> 00:39:13,680
being a um being a new wer British heavy
611
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,160
metal fan for me because I was
612
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,640
everywhere except in
613
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England so by the time I saved up money
614
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,960
uh and made my first trip to England in
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uh I landed in ear early July of
616
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,359
1981 uh at London's heo and went
617
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straight from the um from the airport to
618
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,119
see Diamond Head who were playing uh at
619
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:41,040
the woolage Odon he was the only person
620
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,520
that ever flown over from the stage to
621
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,599
see the band and so we were very
622
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:49,160
impressed with this 17-year-old guy who
623
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,000
is full of enthusiasm and loved the band
624
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,839
and and we gave him a lift in the car
625
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:56,240
and he stopped at my house for a week he
626
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,240
slept on the floor in the sleeping bag I
627
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,520
would probably not be sitting here being
628
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,079
interviewed by you about this music
629
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:05,000
movement it is wasn't if it wasn't for
630
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Diamond Head because they're one of the
631
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,119
significant reasons that I wanted to
632
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play music and start a band
633
00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:17,099
[Music]
634
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
everybody wanted to go to America there
635
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,960
was this a lur of of going to America
636
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,119
and to crack America people are going
637
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:43,119
how are you going to break America
638
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:44,880
you're going to have to get on the radio
639
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,280
and maybe try and make a video cuz
640
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,760
people are starting to really access
641
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,960
videos what was going on in America was
642
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,640
very much based on you know MTV had
643
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,520
started uh was very much about image and
644
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,980
look and
645
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[Music]
646
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,800
atics Steve Harris
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[Music]
648
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,400
[Music]
649
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,319
Le getting Bruce Dickinson meant that
650
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:28,839
the compositional opportunities for iron
651
00:41:28,839 --> 00:41:33,079
maen were much wider um Paul diano was
652
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:36,480
often identified as a Punky singer um
653
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,960
Bruce Dickinson is almost operatic in
654
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,680
his approach there is a quality that
655
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Bruce has as a singer that is going to
656
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,119
go somewhere else so I Maiden it's a
657
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,839
Natural Choice so they recruit him and
658
00:41:49,839 --> 00:41:53,240
then they never look back it's always
659
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:57,240
there the evil face that twist my mind
660
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,520
and brings me to the
661
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[Applause]
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[Music]
663
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:21,760
[Music]
664
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,060
SP the number of the Beast
665
00:42:26,060 --> 00:42:28,800
[Music]
666
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,720
this wheel just some kind
667
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,100
[Music]
668
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:41,239
[Applause]
669
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,880
of the band that break all that and do
670
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,720
it a million times better than anyone
671
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,480
else is De leopard and they just explode
672
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,680
and and they conquer America they get
673
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,760
played on the
674
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,119
radio they are put on heavy rotation on
675
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:59,040
MTV and they Define a specific sound and
676
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,839
a specific
677
00:43:00,839 --> 00:43:03,480
era hi this is Rick Savage and Joe
678
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,240
Elliot from De leopard oh
679
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:08,880
bollocks all
680
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,930
right rock and roll
681
00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:15,140
[Applause]
682
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,699
[Music]
683
00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:32,240
[Applause]
684
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:40,239
[Music]
685
00:43:42,340 --> 00:43:48,589
[Music]
686
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,900
wow
687
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:57,440
[Music]
688
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,200
Pyromania was so successful in
689
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,240
America that other labels and other
690
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,200
managements and other bands looked at
691
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,440
and thought we need to have a go at that
692
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,480
a lot of major labels feel that they
693
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,079
have to have a slice of
694
00:44:16,990 --> 00:44:20,440
[Music]
695
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:25,280
[Music]
696
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,160
this the record compan they wanted this
697
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,800
and they wanted that they wanted a hit
698
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,530
single they wanted us to get on the
699
00:44:33,530 --> 00:44:35,240
[Music]
700
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:40,160
radio all to me this is no game that I
701
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,310
[Applause]
702
00:44:41,310 --> 00:44:45,420
[Music]
703
00:44:47,319 --> 00:44:49,640
play but what they do is they write some
704
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,839
songs that suddenly are just like Bland
705
00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:54,720
and a bit crap and and and everyone that
706
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:55,960
liked him in the first place goes what
707
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,440
is this rubbish oh call me
708
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,620
baby call
709
00:45:03,620 --> 00:45:08,800
[Music]
710
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,400
me fizzled out kind of fairly quickly we
711
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,200
didn't become Queen so everybody was
712
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,960
like oh God you know and panicked a bit
713
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,280
and then once you dropped nobody else
714
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,480
will touch you so unless you're
715
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,370
successful and we won't
716
00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:35,730
[Music]
717
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,559
of schools of bands tried it uh they
718
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:50,599
tried to be more commercial they tried
719
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:52,359
they put a bit of mascara they put some
720
00:45:52,359 --> 00:45:54,079
blonde streaks in their hair they tried
721
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:55,720
to make themselves look a bit prettier
722
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:59,200
when um everybody started to get more
723
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,760
produced the records started sounding a
724
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,520
bit more polished possibly then I
725
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,680
suppose then the movement probably
726
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,400
changed a bit yeah everything Fades
727
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,680
eventually you know you can't keep up
728
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,599
that
729
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,680
momentum forever
730
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,940
[Music]
731
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,760
[Music]
732
00:46:38,180 --> 00:46:44,809
[Music]
733
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,599
suddenly you've got a bunch of people
734
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:56,359
who look at motly crew or wasp or any of
735
00:46:56,359 --> 00:46:58,280
the hair bands from Sunset Strip and
736
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,960
they go oh man I wish I was on the
737
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,559
Sunset Strip I wish I was riding a
738
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:07,559
Harley and I had a girl on the back seat
739
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,079
I grew up in South London that idea
740
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:13,359
makes me feel sick I think it's [ __ ]
741
00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:15,730
so I'm sitting there going who are these
742
00:47:15,730 --> 00:47:19,610
[Music]
743
00:47:25,839 --> 00:47:26,930
idiots
744
00:47:26,930 --> 00:47:33,439
[Music]
745
00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:58,920
for we started out as a cover band
746
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,720
playing four you know four or five of
747
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:04,599
their songs we just thought wow L's band
748
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:06,319
have covered the Diamond dead song the
749
00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:08,119
first band ever to cover a diamond Dead
750
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:11,400
song and so it was very flattering we
751
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,079
had no idea that Metallica were going to
752
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:15,760
become the biggest heavy metal band of
753
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040
all time
754
00:48:21,130 --> 00:48:24,219
[Music]
755
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,550
hair
756
00:48:27,550 --> 00:48:30,000
[Music]
757
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,079
metal what that poser aspect does is it
758
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:36,240
spawns another scene and that scene is
759
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,640
thrash metal and and and what thrash
760
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,000
metal is is a generation of guys who are
761
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000
going we want the purity of that early
762
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,440
New Wave of British heavy metal sound
763
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,450
but we want it faster
764
00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:54,790
[Music]
765
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:03,710
evil the Diamond
766
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:08,880
[Music]
767
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,920
Head what happens with Noam is that as
768
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,240
an attitude it never really
769
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:19,400
dies L is a casing point he was a fan
770
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,359
but everything that Metallica have done
771
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:23,000
has been based on the spirit of the new
772
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,839
W of British heavy me
773
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,359
I didn't have to go back to work my main
774
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:33,079
source of income is the royalties that
775
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:35,880
I've been receiving from Metalica for 30
776
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,640
years so that's been just a
777
00:49:43,060 --> 00:49:51,280
[Music]
778
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,170
godsend yes I am sing it
779
00:49:56,170 --> 00:49:59,200
[Music]
780
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,319
yes I am the new wave of British heavy
781
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:05,119
metal really is a concentrated Scene It
782
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:07,920
affects how fans behave it affects what
783
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,240
happens in the media it affects what
784
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,680
happens in in terms of concert promotion
785
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,640
it affects the presentation of the music
786
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,559
it affects every every
787
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:22,000
aspect culturally in a way that had not
788
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,880
existed before and that I think is the
789
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,400
Triumph of the new wave of British heavy
790
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,440
metal
791
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,119
now of course it's going all these years
792
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:32,400
later we go wow you know I mean it's
793
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,720
quite a legacy really I mean it's it's
794
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,040
it's so brilliant to be part of a
795
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,400
longlasting
796
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,040
thing you know so I don't even know what
797
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,520
the young bands now are being called the
798
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,720
new new new new new W fresh heavy metal
799
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:49,920
who knows
800
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:56,760
[Music]
801
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,760
a
802
00:51:03,740 --> 00:51:26,889
[Music]
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