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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,840 okay um so i wanted to start 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,680 kind of with the i want to share with 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,520 you guys what's going on in 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,000 in my driveway at the moment um this is 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,920 my my younger brother's 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,440 car it's a uh 1978 fiat spider 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,720 and my brother is uh 18 years old 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,800 now and he got this car when he turned 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,400 16 he purchased it from 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,599 our neighbors up the street and when he 11 00:00:27,599 --> 00:00:29,760 purchased it it was not running 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,840 and of course now it's missing a wheel 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,960 but uh 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,800 i had to push the car down the street to 15 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,480 get into our driveway and so my 16 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:38,160 brother and my father have been working 17 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:40,000 on it over the past few years 18 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 and they've had it got it up and running 19 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,760 um you know it's very 20 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,239 quick fairly quickly after getting it 21 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:47,760 but they've always been 22 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,039 changing things and they've taken the 23 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:51,199 entire engine out of it and 24 00:00:51,199 --> 00:00:53,039 replaced the transmission and and all 25 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:55,280 that um but this is just kind of recent 26 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,920 work and 27 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,600 what was interesting why i'm why i'm 28 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,359 bringing this up is that 29 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:03,080 they um they had the engine block 30 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,040 re-surfaced so they took the engine 31 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,320 block out and they 32 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:08,960 they sent it to a machinist in seattle 33 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:09,600 who 34 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,760 who re finished the engine block so now 35 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,799 it looks 36 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:14,479 nice and clean as you can see here so 37 00:01:14,479 --> 00:01:16,320 this is the end the 38 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:18,400 i don't i'm not too familiar with all 39 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,240 the the lingo 40 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,840 um the mechanic lingo 41 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,040 so i might be making up some words that 42 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,799 don't make sense but this is the the 43 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:31,680 engine the head of the engine block 44 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,479 and um this these areas are where the 45 00:01:34,479 --> 00:01:36,159 combustion reaction happens right the 46 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:37,280 gas and 47 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,439 uh oxygen mixture combusts and there's a 48 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:41,119 the spark plug comes out here 49 00:01:41,119 --> 00:01:42,720 and then these areas are where the 50 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,200 valves open and close to allow the 51 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,439 oxygen or the the gas in 52 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:50,479 and um so this whole thing was uh 53 00:01:50,479 --> 00:01:52,840 chemically treated and cleaned and then 54 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,399 resurfaced but 55 00:01:54,399 --> 00:01:56,560 what i wanted to point out is that this 56 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,840 these engine blocks 57 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,719 are are typically sand casted aluminum 58 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:02,079 and you guys are familiar with sand 59 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:04,079 casting and i wanted to show you some of 60 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:05,840 the surface features of this 61 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,119 resurfaced engine block and 62 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:11,760 um you can see the porosity in the sand 63 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,319 cast 64 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:14,560 it has very high porosity just evident 65 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,599 just through 66 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:18,879 visually inspecting it and 67 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:21,200 what's what's also interesting is that 68 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,400 you know fiat 69 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,520 is also notorious for for having parts 70 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,000 break down on it and in fact uh my 71 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,720 father 72 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,280 that was talking with a a machinist who 73 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,879 was who's making these parts 74 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:34,560 or specializing the fiat parts and he 75 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,239 said yeah the engine blocks have always 76 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:38,080 been notorious for for 77 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,959 it's uh low quality and i think it's 78 00:02:40,959 --> 00:02:42,480 pretty evident of this you know high 79 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,160 porosity that 80 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,440 these are kind of poor materials but 81 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,720 also why this is out right now 82 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,560 is that my brother was adjusting the 83 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,080 timing of the 84 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,159 of the of the car the engine 85 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:01,440 and um the timing is important because 86 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,319 the timing 87 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:05,599 is uh you know when the spark will will 88 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:06,400 ignite 89 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,040 compared to the height of the cylinder 90 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:09,519 that 91 00:03:09,519 --> 00:03:11,920 the piston and also the valves when they 92 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:13,680 come out and so if you want to get it at 93 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,720 the right spot where 94 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,720 you have the spark right at the top of 95 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,239 the cylinder or whatever so you have the 96 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:19,760 right compression ratio i'm not i'm not 97 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,640 too familiar with 98 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:23,280 you know the exact uh lingo but what 99 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,360 happened is if the timing is off by too 100 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,239 much 101 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:28,159 that the head of the cylinder that 102 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:30,080 piston that's going up and down 103 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,360 will bump into the valve that's opening 104 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,080 which is this 105 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,400 the valve seat is right here and so what 106 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,599 happened is my brother 107 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:39,680 uh accidentally put the timing a little 108 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,280 bit too far off time 109 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,360 and the top of the cylinder bumped into 110 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,959 this valve that would open 111 00:03:44,959 --> 00:03:46,560 and broke off and so now it's inside 112 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,000 this chamber that's 113 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,519 bouncing around you can see how it's 114 00:03:49,519 --> 00:03:52,720 deformed the pieces of this cylinder 115 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,560 valve have broken off and deformed 116 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,239 inside while while the engine was 117 00:03:56,239 --> 00:03:56,799 running 118 00:03:56,799 --> 00:04:00,080 and so if we had to take the whole thing 119 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,519 they had to take the whole thing apart 120 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:03,599 again uh this time the engine could stay 121 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:05,200 in the car just taking the the head off 122 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,159 is easier 123 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:08,000 and what they did recently is they went 124 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,680 to a i guess a scrap yard 125 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,840 that had the same car and got the same 126 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,720 part from an 127 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,680 old your retired car and so here's the 128 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,120 same kind of part you see these are the 129 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,079 valve 130 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:22,720 uh parts that kind of open and close and 131 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,000 that's what was destroyed and so they're 132 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,520 going to clean this up and replace the 133 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,520 one that was damaged 134 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,040 which is too bad because it's nice and 135 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,880 clean already but anyways 136 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,240 just just a little bit of material 137 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,240 science uh i thought i would share 138 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,560 what's kind of going on in in our time 139 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,600 off 140 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,040 but that's my brother my father have 141 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,800 mainly been doing that 142 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,199 okay so let's um we're going to talk 143 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:44,080 about 144 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,160 a bit more about the electrochemistry i 145 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,600 wanted to go over some things we learned 146 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,360 last lecture 147 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,120 some things that i might have missed and 148 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,560 clarify some things 149 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,160 and we'll talk a bit more about 150 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,800 batteries um so last time i talked about 151 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,479 the standard reduction potential right 152 00:04:58,479 --> 00:04:59,919 this list of potentials that these 153 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:02,720 different species will 154 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,400 reduce at i've i failed to emphasize 155 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,039 that these values are measured at 156 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:10,000 standard state 157 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,919 so they're empirically determined at 158 00:05:11,919 --> 00:05:13,199 standard state conditions and the 159 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:15,039 standard state is at 25 degrees celsius 160 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:16,160 one atmosphere 161 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,440 and then also most importantly is the 162 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,600 concentration 163 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,960 of the species so in all of these uh 164 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,759 these cases with exception for some like 165 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:27,520 the the metals like zinc metal 166 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,639 zinc metal you can't have a 167 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:31,039 concentration in solution it's a solid 168 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:33,840 but like iron three plus iron two plus 169 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:35,759 the concentration of iron three plus is 170 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:38,080 equal to the concentration of iron 171 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,080 two plus and and for standard state i 172 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,759 think they keep it at one molar which is 173 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:43,840 a bit high in my opinion but 174 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:46,320 uh so these values are only accurate 175 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,199 when 176 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:48,639 it's at standard state and that's why 177 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:49,919 it's called the standard reduction 178 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:51,680 potential it's given by this notation 179 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,240 the 180 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,199 the e with a little knot above it that's 181 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:56,080 the standard 182 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,120 reduction potential so if we uh in just 183 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,639 looking back at this example where we 184 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:01,759 had the cell 185 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:03,600 of the iron two and three plus and the 186 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,440 zinc two plus and zinc metal 187 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,120 well this this potential that we 188 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,960 calculated the standard redox potential 189 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:09,919 of the reaction 190 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:12,720 it's only accurate if we say that the 191 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,639 concentration of iron two plus is equal 192 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:15,120 to the 193 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,800 concentration of iron three plus and 194 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,880 then the concentration of zinc two plus 195 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,160 is one molar 196 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,880 uh okay so that that's only the case and 197 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:23,280 i 198 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,199 kind of forgot to mention that i wanted 199 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:26,880 to go over that in more detail 200 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,280 you know what happens to the voltage of 201 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:30,160 this cell 202 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,720 if the concentration is not the same for 203 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,479 each species okay so what does the 204 00:06:34,479 --> 00:06:36,479 voltage look like in that case 205 00:06:36,479 --> 00:06:38,800 and this follows uh what's called the 206 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,160 nernst equation 207 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,600 okay so this equation relates the 208 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,000 voltage the redox potential 209 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,240 of the species related to its standard 210 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,039 reduction 211 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:50,080 to potential at standard state and then 212 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,039 how it changes concentration so minus 213 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:55,520 rtr is the gas constant t is temperature 214 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,240 in kelvin 215 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,160 n is the number of electrons involved in 216 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,160 the reaction so for iron two plus iron 217 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,840 three plus it's only one electron 218 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:03,840 like zinc two plus the zinc metal is two 219 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:05,360 electron reaction 220 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,240 um f is faraday's constant relates the 221 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,440 the amount of charge 222 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,039 in one mole of electrons and then q 223 00:07:13,039 --> 00:07:16,240 r is the the um i want to say reaction 224 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:16,800 quotient 225 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,680 reaction quotient that is the ratio of 226 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,440 the products of the reaction 227 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,639 to the the uh 228 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:28,319 reactants of the reaction okay so 229 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,880 if at standard state the products and 230 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,440 the reactants are at equal concentration 231 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,720 and here i've plotted 232 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,000 the reduction potential versus the 233 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,080 the ratio of the products to the 234 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,479 reactants of that reaction of this uh 235 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:44,720 this redox reaction and you see if 236 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,240 they're equal so 237 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,160 it would be one over one or it would be 238 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,280 equal to one 239 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,280 that is the value of the standard 240 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,280 reduction potential and for iron 241 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,960 to the three oxide it's 0.77 volts 242 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,840 but as we increase the amount of 243 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,800 reactants 244 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,800 which would be iron in this case would 245 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,639 be iron three plus if we increase the 246 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:06,240 concentration of iron three plus 247 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,759 relative to iron two plus 248 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:10,400 the voltage of this of this redox 249 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:10,960 voltage 250 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,280 increases okay and the opposite is true 251 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,479 for if we increase the 252 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:16,160 amount of products okay this this should 253 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,919 be familiar with you should be familiar 254 00:08:17,919 --> 00:08:18,639 with this 255 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:20,000 you've probably learned this in freshman 256 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,479 chemistry and even high school chemistry 257 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:25,680 this is uh a principle called 258 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,560 le chatelier's principle okay and that 259 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,039 that 260 00:08:29,039 --> 00:08:31,120 says you know if you have more product 261 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,279 then the reaction will be favored to go 262 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,200 in the reverse or if you have more more 263 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,039 reactant it'll be favorable in the the 264 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:38,000 forward reaction 265 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,519 all right so all we're saying is that we 266 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:41,760 have more reactant versus product and so 267 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,679 there's going to be a higher a greater 268 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,519 thermodynamic driving force 269 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,160 for that reaction to proceed instead if 270 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,120 it had more 271 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,240 product than reactive okay i mean even 272 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:52,560 if 273 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:54,640 even if the amount of product is very 274 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,839 low 275 00:08:55,839 --> 00:08:57,440 or excuse me if the amount of product is 276 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,519 very high there's still a positive 277 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:01,040 potential which means there's still a 278 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,720 thermodynamic driving force for that 279 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,720 reaction to proceed it's just lower than 280 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,839 if it was the other way around okay uh 281 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:09,120 so here's an example 282 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,240 of that uh i i've taken two cells 283 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,519 uh a solution a and solution b and they 284 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:16,800 are both made up of 285 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,160 iron two plus and iron three plus but 286 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,839 the difference is the difference in 287 00:09:21,839 --> 00:09:23,839 concentration of the three plus to two 288 00:09:23,839 --> 00:09:24,399 plus 289 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:26,800 so in solution a we have a greater 290 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,680 amount of 291 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,880 uh iron three plus solution b solution b 292 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,040 we have a greater amount of iron two 293 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,519 plus so you can use the nernst equation 294 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:36,640 to calculate the 295 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,680 the redox potential in solution a okay 296 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,200 so we have the standard redox potential 297 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,080 of iron is 298 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,120 0.77 and the natural log 299 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,240 of the concentration in this case is one 300 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,160 the concentration of the product iron 301 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,080 two plus is one in this case and the 302 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,600 reactant is ten okay so it has a a 303 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,680 redox potential that's above its 304 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:58,959 standard redux potential 305 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:01,120 and the opposite is true for solution b 306 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,120 as a redox potential that's lower 307 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,839 so if you compare these two together 308 00:10:05,839 --> 00:10:06,880 there is a 309 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,800 potential difference between these two 310 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,240 cells so if you were to take the 311 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,240 multimeter and measure between you you'd 312 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,079 see a voltage and that voltage is the 313 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:15,440 difference between these two 314 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,279 so the cell voltage is just the 315 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:18,480 difference between the reduction 316 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,200 potential of 317 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,360 solution a and solution b so you can 318 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,720 always take the 319 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,279 the higher number minus the the smaller 320 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:26,160 number 321 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,040 and that will be that can indicate which 322 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,200 direction like electrons will flow 323 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,760 and which what species will be reduced 324 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,600 or oxidized so in this case i've used 325 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,519 the reduction potential but in the 326 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:39,920 previous example of the zinc 327 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,240 i had used oxidation potential which is 328 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,120 just the negative 329 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,040 of reduction potential all right so it 330 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,240 is the the 331 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,680 the opposite here so you have to 332 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:52,320 add uh the oxidation potential in this 333 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,760 case 334 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,120 um so the question is 335 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,200 is is this when will this uh reaction 336 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,160 stop 337 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,720 all right so if we if we were to short 338 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,839 circuit this you know 339 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:08,320 just put a wire across this then 340 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,240 electrons will flow from 341 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,040 this side the iron two plus will oxidize 342 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,519 it'll give 343 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:16,320 electrons and flow into this side and 344 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,399 reduce the iron three plus and that will 345 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:19,040 continue 346 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,640 until a certain point and that is of 347 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,959 course equilibrium of the entire system 348 00:11:22,959 --> 00:11:25,279 but the question is when does it reach 349 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:26,399 equilibrium 350 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:29,839 okay so we know at equilibrium 351 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:32,800 there is no net prod uh production of 352 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,399 product and there's no there's no net 353 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:36,240 forward reaction there's no net reverse 354 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,880 reaction 355 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,399 okay so that means that 356 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:43,200 the potential between these two cells at 357 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,480 equilibrium would be 358 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,959 zero all right so or gibbs free energy 359 00:11:46,959 --> 00:11:48,560 would be zero right there's no 360 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,040 uh thermodynamic driving force to go one 361 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,399 way or the other 362 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:54,720 and so the question is you know when at 363 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,560 what concentration of these two cells 364 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:57,120 will that 365 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,279 occur at when will the the reaction stop 366 00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:00,639 uh taking place 367 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:03,040 and in this example i i should have 368 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,720 started with nine and one to make the 369 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,120 total 370 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,360 10 but the total concentration of iron 371 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,959 is actually 11 so that's kind of my 372 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:12,320 mistake but that's fine 373 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,440 so the total concentration of iron in 374 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,800 this case is 11 375 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,399 so when this cell has a concentration of 376 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:24,800 of 5.5 millimolar iron 3 plus and 5.5 377 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,120 iron 2 plus and that's the same as this 378 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,200 cell that's when the voltage between the 379 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,800 two will be zero 380 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,680 okay and so that's when the reaction 381 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:35,600 will stop the electrons current will 382 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,800 stop flowing 383 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,680 between the two there's no potential to 384 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:40,320 to drive 385 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,800 the current um so another question is 386 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,240 you know in this example is fairly 387 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,320 simple the concentrations are the same 388 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:48,880 in both 389 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,720 right the total amount of iron in both 390 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,399 cells is 11 millimolar 391 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:55,839 what if one of the cells had a much 392 00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:58,240 higher concentration of iron for example 393 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,240 let's say solution a 394 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,760 had a 100 millimolar iron three plus and 395 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,200 one millimeter iron tubeless but 396 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,079 solution b was kept 397 00:13:06,079 --> 00:13:09,200 the same all right then what would the 398 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,079 the final concentration be now before 399 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:13,440 this lecture i had prepared 400 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,600 the slide but unfortunately i lost it 401 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,600 and it didn't save 402 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,160 and i'm wondering we could go through it 403 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:20,720 um 404 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,320 but actually this lecture this morning's 405 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,079 lecture was kind of long so i think i'll 406 00:13:24,079 --> 00:13:24,959 skip that 407 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:28,240 but uh the answer is you know for if 408 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,360 you have to think of um as 409 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,880 you take electrons away from solution b 410 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,079 all right for every like one millimole 411 00:13:38,079 --> 00:13:40,160 of electrons you take away right you're 412 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,240 you're creating one millimole of iron 413 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,839 three plus and then the same for this 414 00:13:43,839 --> 00:13:45,279 solution you're you're giving it one 415 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:47,040 millimole of electrons you're 416 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,040 you're creating one millimole of iron 417 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,240 two plus so 418 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,839 if this was 100 millimolars the the most 419 00:13:53,839 --> 00:13:55,760 this could change in concentration at 420 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,519 the maximum let's say it took all the 421 00:13:57,519 --> 00:13:59,440 electrons away from these irons 422 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,440 then the most it could be would be it 423 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,480 would be 9 424 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,440 or excuse me 10. it only has 10 electron 425 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,360 millimolars of electrons to give 426 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,000 so this would be become what 90 instead 427 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,360 of 100. so that would be 428 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,040 the maximum but it's not going to reach 429 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,720 that state 430 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,000 because remember the reduction potential 431 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,360 of these solutions 432 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,920 depends on the ratio of product to 433 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,040 reactant 434 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,320 okay so actually uh before it depletes 435 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,920 all those electrons that ratio is going 436 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,399 to create 437 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:31,600 such a a potential that 438 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,920 the it's going to equilibrate and turn 439 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:34,639 to zero 440 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:36,800 it's a bit it's a lot more clear when i 441 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,240 have that extra slide i'll i'll see if i 442 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,600 can upload it and 443 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,279 later it'll make more sense but let's 444 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:43,440 move on 445 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,959 so this is something i was thinking 446 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:47,120 about last night when i was making these 447 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,160 slides 448 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,800 is how how is this different 449 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,000 than having just iron and two plus and 450 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,440 three plus in solution right i mean 451 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,120 what's what's stopping from 452 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,760 stopping this iron two plus two for from 453 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,760 giving electrons to this iron three plus 454 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,079 and 455 00:15:04,079 --> 00:15:06,480 reducing it right it's kind of kind of 456 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,240 similar to this and um 457 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,240 if the concentrations are different 458 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,720 right i i i'm embarrassed to admit i 459 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:13,360 spent 460 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,160 a long time thinking about this and i 461 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,199 was i was 462 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:21,440 it was driving me nuts thinking why why 463 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,320 it didn't make sense um and the reason 464 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:24,880 is 465 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,600 well of course in solution you you are 466 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,320 having 467 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,160 this electron transfer between iron two 468 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,839 blocks and iron three plus all the time 469 00:15:31,839 --> 00:15:34,079 right it's it's fine it's natural to to 470 00:15:34,079 --> 00:15:36,079 have some exchange 471 00:15:36,079 --> 00:15:38,480 but the point is that i was missing is 472 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,000 that if you remove 473 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,199 an electron from this iron atom 474 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:45,279 and give it to this iron atom the 475 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:47,360 concentration of iron three plus and 476 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,360 iron two plus does not change right you 477 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,800 just removed it from one iron and gave 478 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,759 it to another and 479 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:53,360 it took me about an hour to figure that 480 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,440 out like oh i'm 481 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,720 i was a little bit embarrassed about 482 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,720 that anyways 483 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,720 so it is different this solution you 484 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,480 could say is at equilibrium it has 485 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,160 equilibrium potential 486 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,279 this system this system is not at 487 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:08,399 equilibrium 488 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:11,360 okay until the voltage reads zero but if 489 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,880 you're just looking at individual 490 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,399 solutions you could say yeah that 491 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:15,920 solution is at equilibrium 492 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,680 but the system is not um 493 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,839 that's you know particularly introducing 494 00:16:21,839 --> 00:16:23,199 the salt bridge 495 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:26,639 uh will put the the give you this this 496 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:29,600 potential between the two electrodes uh 497 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,279 in a side note i 498 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:34,480 i was at a museum in uh germany this is 499 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,000 related it's related i was 500 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,839 in germany with my wife and i when i was 501 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:40,079 an undergrad and we were vacationing and 502 00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:41,759 i went i think it was in dresden we went 503 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:43,360 to some science museum and there was 504 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,199 this really cool demo 505 00:16:45,199 --> 00:16:47,360 that talked about the like corrosion 506 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,040 potential between different metals 507 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,279 or the activity between different metals 508 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:52,639 where they had a metal 509 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:54,560 like a one type of metal like aluminum 510 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,839 and add another type of metal 511 00:16:55,839 --> 00:16:58,160 copper and they were like plates and it 512 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,639 had a volt meter just like in the setup 513 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:03,680 okay and 514 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,679 the idea was you would put your hands on 515 00:17:05,679 --> 00:17:06,880 these plates 516 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,240 and then the voltmeter would read a 517 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,000 voltage okay 518 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,720 so how does that work it's it's very 519 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,359 similar 520 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,119 to to this setup where you have 521 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,959 you know say you have the copper plate 522 00:17:18,959 --> 00:17:21,599 on one side the 523 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,119 aluminum plate on another and they're 524 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,640 connected to the voltmeter that we're 525 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,520 looking at 526 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,559 and then you your your own body is 527 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:30,799 making the salt bridge 528 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:32,240 to connect the two and that's when the 529 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,320 voltage reads so your body 530 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,200 is the electrolyte to for this uh to 531 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,000 make this 532 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,760 uh to measure this potential difference 533 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,799 and i thought it was really cool because 534 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:41,840 there's all these different metals and 535 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,039 you put your hands on different things 536 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:44,720 and it make the volt meter 537 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,720 go to different voltages anyways so 538 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,799 pretty cool demo you can you can try out 539 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:51,600 if you have a volt meter and see if it 540 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,320 works 541 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,240 okay so here's a method of determining 542 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,280 the the standard reduction potential 543 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,039 uh this is called potentiometric 544 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:02,320 titration 545 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,640 and there's other types of titrate 546 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,160 titration is when you when you 547 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,960 when you add a species to a solution 548 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,640 like drop by drop 549 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,039 and you're measuring the volume added to 550 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:14,400 the solution 551 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,880 okay so like there's uh you're probably 552 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,320 familiar with a 553 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,480 acid-base titration right you might have 554 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,400 a solution that has an indicator that 555 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,440 changes color 556 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,760 when it reaches a certain ph and then 557 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,360 you titrate it with an acid and you're 558 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:28,559 measuring the volume 559 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:30,960 added to that solution and you're modern 560 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,480 monitoring it and then all of a sudden 561 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:33,520 it hits that that 562 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,600 that ph and it changes color so that's a 563 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,120 acid-base titration 564 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:39,360 in this type of titration you have a 565 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:40,320 species 566 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,760 of redox active ions in solution so in 567 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,880 this example we have 568 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,240 a tin two plus in iron two plus just a 569 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,120 hundred percent 570 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,440 two plus hundred percent iron two plus 571 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,200 and we're titrating it with 572 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,520 this this ion this is um 573 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,679 and correct me if i'm wrong i think a 574 00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:00,559 cerium 575 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:02,720 i believe cerium i could be saying that 576 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,880 wrong cerium four plus 577 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,679 um so cerium four plus it has a very 578 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:09,360 high reduction potential 579 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:12,799 1.6 volts so that means if it comes in 580 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:15,120 contact with any of these ions 581 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:18,000 it's going to easily oxidize those ions 582 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,440 so those ions are going to oxidize 583 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,200 they're going to 584 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,400 they're going to iron cesium four plus 585 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,320 is going to steal an electron from those 586 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,919 ions 587 00:19:27,919 --> 00:19:31,120 okay so if we start 588 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,000 with this solution of two plus ions and 589 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:34,480 what 590 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,640 you do is that you measure the redox 591 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,760 potential 592 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,080 so the potential between the platinum 593 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,160 and the a reference electrode such as 594 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,320 a standard hydrogen electrode so you're 595 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,679 measuring the whatever reaction is 596 00:19:45,679 --> 00:19:46,960 happening at the surface of this 597 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,240 electrode 598 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,720 as you titrate it okay so this this is 599 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,160 very much at equilibrium 600 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,799 you add a little bit of cerium you you 601 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:55,760 let it mix up 602 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,799 together and so it 603 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:00,799 goes to equilibrium and you measure the 604 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:02,720 voltage and so you take these 605 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,120 different points as you add the cerium 606 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:06,720 and you measure the volume of cerium and 607 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,200 that's 608 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,720 relative to the concentration of the 609 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,039 cerium okay and you'll get a plot like 610 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:11,600 this 611 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,720 and this plot very much is the nernst 612 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,520 equation 613 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,720 for each species so all i did as i 614 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,000 modeled the nernst equation 615 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,320 for 10 2 plus the 4 plus and then i also 616 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,840 modeled the neurons equation 2 plus the 617 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,200 3 plus and i just kind of added them 618 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,400 together 619 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,200 and the at the inflection point is the 620 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:29,919 standard 621 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:31,840 reduction potential and remember 622 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,760 standard reduction potential is when 623 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,679 the concentration of the product is 624 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:37,520 equal to the concentration of the 625 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,400 reactant 626 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,400 all right so at this potential and or 627 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,919 that this volume added 628 00:20:41,919 --> 00:20:44,960 you have reduced half excuse me you have 629 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,600 oxidized half of the tin 630 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,559 ions in solution all right and then you 631 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:52,080 continue and then at this point you've 632 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,320 oxidized all of the tin ions 633 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,159 and then you start oxidizing the iron 634 00:20:56,159 --> 00:20:58,000 ions and then this at the halfway point 635 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,280 as the standard redux 636 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,480 potential is a half of the iron 637 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,640 ions have been oxidized now one question 638 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960 is uh you know when you drop the cerium 639 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,440 in why why is it that only the tin 640 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,600 oxidizes and not the iron 641 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,880 okay because i mean iron is also lower 642 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,799 in reduction potential than the cerium 643 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,799 so you know both of these are are fair 644 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:23,520 game to being oxidized right 645 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,440 but but if you were you were to measure 646 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,799 it you'd only see the tin 647 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:29,760 oxidized um so in reality when when we 648 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840 drop this liquid in and the cerium 649 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,919 reacts with the the liquid it could very 650 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:35,600 well yeah it's very possible that it 651 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,880 does oxidize 652 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,280 the iron two plus the iron three plus 653 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,240 however 654 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,120 iron three plus also has a higher 655 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:46,080 reduction potential than tin four plus 656 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,400 okay so that means the iron three plus 657 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,480 is oxidizing any 658 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,440 tin two plus that's uh present as well 659 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,000 so any 660 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,200 iron iron two plus that gets oxidized 661 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,679 it goes forward and oxidizes tin two 662 00:21:59,679 --> 00:22:00,960 plus and becomes reduced again 663 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,559 anyways okay so that's potentiometric 664 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:05,600 titration and again 665 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,520 the important of this type of technique 666 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,520 is that it's at equilibrium 667 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,080 all right each data point we collect is 668 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,360 at equilibrium 669 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,679 now we'll talk about cyclic voltometry 670 00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:17,280 and i introduced this before 671 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,880 but what's different with cyclical 672 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,039 optometry is that we're not 673 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,600 we are no longer at equilibrium all 674 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,080 right so 675 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,280 in this type of test you might have a 676 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,880 three electrode cell like this where you 677 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,720 have the working electrode and that's 678 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,320 that's going to be the reaction that 679 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,760 you're you're interested in 680 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,280 so you're measuring the voltage of that 681 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,760 reaction against a reference electrode 682 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,600 and then you're applying a current 683 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,360 between that and the counter electro so 684 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,039 all the purpose of the counter electrode 685 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:45,200 is only only to provide electrons or 686 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,640 take away electrons but we're not really 687 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,200 interested 688 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,360 at what whatever redox reaction is 689 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:50,960 happening on that surface 690 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,520 because we're not measuring the voltage 691 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,720 now i said with the 692 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,080 we're supplying our current but i mean 693 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,320 really we're controlling the voltage so 694 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,440 this type of test 695 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,720 we we have we we control the voltage 696 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,760 and we set it so that it it linearly 697 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,840 increases at a certain rate and then 698 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,679 decreases a certain rate between 699 00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:12,000 you know arbitrary points that we select 700 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 uh it's important that these voltages 701 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,039 are within like the 702 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:17,039 electrolyte rate range so if you're 703 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:18,159 working with water 704 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:21,120 and if you push the voltage too far then 705 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,799 the water or the electrolyte will start 706 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:24,640 breaking down as well and you'll get 707 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,440 other 708 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,039 things that you're not interested in um 709 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:32,559 okay so here's a 710 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:35,280 this should be a video if i click or a 711 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,080 um 712 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,640 let's see yeah this happened in the 713 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,159 morning too oh there we go 714 00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:43,520 so this is the the test okay so we start 715 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,400 out 716 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,799 uh at a negative potential okay let's 717 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:48,640 say we're starting with iron 718 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,960 ferrous chloride it's a hundred percent 719 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,159 iron two plus 720 00:23:52,159 --> 00:23:54,000 and we've set the potential to negative 721 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,279 four so again we're 722 00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:57,760 in this test we're applying a potential 723 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,559 rather than 724 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:01,679 uh just measuring it at equilibrium so 725 00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:02,159 it might 726 00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:04,559 it's not necessarily at equal this is 727 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:06,080 below the equilibrium 728 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,240 potential of the iron but iron has 729 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,159 already been reduced completely so 730 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:11,520 you're not going to see any current yeah 731 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,360 the y-axis is current 732 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,039 going through and the x-axis is the 733 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:16,559 applied potential 734 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:18,400 so we're not at equilibrium at negative 735 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,840 0.4 and this is 736 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,760 voltage versus the standard reduction 737 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,520 potential so at zero volts that's just 738 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,880 going to be for iron 739 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,159 0.77 volts versus she um 740 00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:30,480 so yeah so we're below the equilibrium 741 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,760 potential but again 742 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,440 all the iron has already been reduced so 743 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,799 it's no it can't 744 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:38,240 be reduced anymore and we sweep the 745 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,200 voltage 746 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,960 we increase the voltage and then we 747 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,880 start to reach the reduction potential 748 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,559 and that's when we see current and the 749 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:46,400 current corresponds to the reaction the 750 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,600 electrons are being 751 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600 delivered to the iron or taken away from 752 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,440 the iron two plus and it's oxidizing at 753 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,559 that surface 754 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,320 okay and then we reach a maximum point 755 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,520 the reason why we reach a maximum limit 756 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,799 in this case is that the concentration 757 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:05,200 of iron two plus at the surface of this 758 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,559 platinum electrode 759 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,279 is decreasing as as we're as we're 760 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:10,640 oxidizing the iron two plus the 761 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,640 concentration decreases 762 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,039 okay and eventually we reach a limit 763 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:15,760 where there's no 764 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,320 longer any any iron two plus available 765 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,039 but there's still 766 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:21,120 there's still plenty of iron two plus in 767 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,480 the bulk of the 768 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,480 electrolyte it's just not at the surface 769 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,000 of the the electrode 770 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,919 and so what happens is we've reached a 771 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:29,039 diffusion limit 772 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:32,080 so we're we're waiting for the ions in 773 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,760 solution to diffuse 774 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,520 to the surface and then also the iron 775 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,200 three plus in the uh 776 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,279 against the surface to diffuse away from 777 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,200 the surface all right so that's why the 778 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,000 current starts to 779 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,159 go down even though there's plenty of 780 00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:45,840 iron two plus still in the solution the 781 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,279 current starts to go down 782 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,279 because of a diffusion limit so it's a 783 00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:50,720 it's a kinetic 784 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,200 limitation and this peak current also 785 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,279 can depend on you know the size 786 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,360 of this electrode if you have a higher 787 00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:58,720 surface area of course you're going to 788 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,679 have more 789 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:03,200 more uh a higher current um than a 790 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,480 smaller like a wire a platinum wire 791 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,760 okay so we're continuing to push this uh 792 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,120 this voltage let's see if i can 793 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,840 go up and then we reach the the final 794 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,279 voltage and reverse it 795 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,760 okay so we've reached our end voltage 796 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,360 which is would be this point here and 797 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,120 then we start to sweep the voltage down 798 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,880 okay so at this point we still have 799 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,720 positive current 800 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,039 see it's above zero if we have positive 801 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:30,720 current that means that 802 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,919 electrons are flowing away from this 803 00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:35,440 electrode they're flowing out of that 804 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,200 electrode we're oxidizing it so we're 805 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,159 still oxidizing 806 00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:39,840 the iron because there's still plenty of 807 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,919 iron available until we reach 808 00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:44,080 zero and at that point then we switch 809 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,600 from oxidation 810 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,480 to reduction okay so now the electrons 811 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,840 are flowing to 812 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,480 the platinum electrode here and reducing 813 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,400 the iron three plus species 814 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,080 and then the same thing happens that you 815 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,400 you have a diffusion limit of the iron 816 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,400 three plus available at the surface 817 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,320 and then it continues to go okay 818 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,760 so that's that's an interesting to think 819 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,640 about and this kind of um 820 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,640 the fact that you know we're at we're at 821 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,080 a positive potential 822 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,559 versus she so remember this zero it 823 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:15,600 should be really just 824 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,760 0.77 actually we're at 0.77 volts above 825 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,039 she and we 826 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,679 we have both you know pot we can have 827 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:26,880 positive current 828 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,960 or negative current and you know for the 829 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,399 longest time 830 00:27:30,399 --> 00:27:32,320 i i forget when i learned this but i 831 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,520 always thought you know if you have a 832 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,240 battery 833 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,240 and you discharge the battery right 834 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,279 you're getting current out of the 835 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:38,960 battery and then if you want to recharge 836 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,799 the battery all you have to do is apply 837 00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,240 a reverse 838 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,799 uh current you know if if your if your 839 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:46,640 battery discharges at three volts and 840 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,919 you want to recharge it you apply 841 00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:49,120 negative 3 volts 842 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,360 and that is entirely incorrect if you do 843 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:52,320 that you're going to you're going to 844 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,679 blow up the battery 845 00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:55,120 all right if you want to recharge a 846 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:57,200 battery let's say your lithium ion 847 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,279 battery discharges at 3 or 4 volts 848 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:01,360 to recharge it you actually want to 849 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,279 apply a higher voltage across the same 850 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:04,720 terminals you're going to 851 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,360 increase it to 4 volts or 5 volts okay 852 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,559 so it's kind of interesting to think 853 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:09,120 about 854 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,880 you know even though in both cases we 855 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,799 have positive voltage 856 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:16,000 across the electrodes it's 857 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,960 it's um the current can be either 858 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,399 positive or negative which is 859 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:23,279 kind of strange now now the that's 860 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,200 versus a references 861 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,360 of course versus the other electrode 862 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,039 um the potential is does change 863 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,840 so that's that's where it that's a bit 864 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,240 different 865 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,080 so here's another thing to think about 866 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,840 let's say we're running our test 867 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,159 and we start increasing the current and 868 00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:44,559 we we hit this zero volts all right they 869 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:46,080 were at the standard state 870 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,120 if we were to stop the test let's say 871 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,679 let's say 872 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:51,919 uh we'll not necessarily stop but we we 873 00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:54,240 hold the voltage at zero if we were to 874 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,880 hold 875 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,360 the voltage at zero what would happen 876 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,360 okay we hold the voltage at zero we 877 00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:59,760 don't 878 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,840 we don't progress any higher or lower 879 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,919 what happens is the current will decay 880 00:29:03,919 --> 00:29:07,120 along zero okay until it reaches zero 881 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,080 volts 882 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,520 all right and at that point we know that 883 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,919 zero volts the the versus the standard 884 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:13,360 reduction potential 885 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,520 that is when the product is equal to 886 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,960 the reactant okay and actually in this 887 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,000 case because 888 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240 uh in this setup it doesn't make too 889 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,440 much sense actually i'll show in the 890 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,320 next setup 891 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,240 but because there's a bulk solution of 892 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,399 iron two plus we would probably never 893 00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:33,600 reach we might not ever reach a 894 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,120 zero because there's still going to be 895 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,600 plenty of iron two plus 896 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,440 in the bulk that's diffusing so we'll 897 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,120 probably reach its current limit i 898 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,640 i want to correct myself there but the 899 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880 next slide it makes more sense 900 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,799 um so yeah this type of cyclic 901 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,440 voltometry has this diffusion limit 902 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,360 okay but there's another type if you 903 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,840 take this electrode and you move it 904 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,600 around for example this is called a 905 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,480 spinning 906 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,000 disc electrode so 907 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,840 if you it's basically electro a platinum 908 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,120 electrode that's a 909 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,760 disc and it spins in solution and as it 910 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,520 spins it's creating a convection 911 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,520 current in the solution so you're always 912 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,799 delivering fresh 913 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,200 iron two plus to the solution and so it 914 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,039 no longer has that diffusion limit where 915 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:18,320 the current goes back down 916 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,240 but still has a current limit and this 917 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,520 current limit 918 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,039 depends on factors like the 919 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:24,559 concentration of ions 920 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,039 the the size of the electrode the the 921 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:29,200 speed that's spinning at 922 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,799 and also what's important is the 923 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:32,240 diffusion 924 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,000 of the the redox active 925 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,559 species right so you can use this type 926 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:39,440 of test 927 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,480 and if you know all those other 928 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,080 parameters you can calculate the 929 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:42,960 diffusion 930 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,240 coefficient of that ion in solution so 931 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,640 that 932 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,480 is kind of an interesting test to do if 933 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,240 you need to find diffusion coefficient 934 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,000 of ionic species 935 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,360 in uh redox ionic species in the um 936 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,960 the solution okay so again 937 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,120 these this type of cyclic voltmeter this 938 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,080 type of test 939 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,679 we're taking it away from equilibrium 940 00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:09,360 and driving the reaction so in these 941 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,279 what i've showed is that we have a redox 942 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:12,880 active species as part of the 943 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,039 electrolyte it's in the solution 944 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,960 but batteries and other materials 945 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,279 the redox active solution is not you 946 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:22,080 know it's not an 947 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,799 aqueous ion it's actually a part of a 948 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:25,519 solid 949 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:28,159 okay so in this case the all the species 950 00:31:28,159 --> 00:31:31,039 are already present at the platinum so 951 00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:32,480 depending on what the material is you 952 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,240 don't have to worry about diffusion 953 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,840 of of your redox active species to the 954 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,880 surface 955 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,640 anymore it's already on the surface and 956 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,399 if it has high electrical conductivity 957 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:43,519 then it has no 958 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,600 no problem and then you would expect a 959 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,039 curve like this where 960 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,760 uh you'll have zero uh when if the 961 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,679 entire species is reduced 962 00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:53,519 and then you start oxidizing and then 963 00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:56,080 you're starting to run out of uh 964 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,559 the material is starting to become fully 965 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,240 oxidized and then at this point 966 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,919 c all the redox active species on the 967 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:06,320 electrode have been fully oxidized so it 968 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,440 should reach a 969 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,200 current of zero and then you can do the 970 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200 opposite as well 971 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,080 but oftentimes in uh electrode materials 972 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,279 like battery materials 973 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,000 there's still an influence of diffusion 974 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,440 so you'll still see 975 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,840 that these peaks will shift away from 976 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,080 zero and because of the diffusion limit 977 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,760 and that's because you know if you have 978 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,279 a lithium ion battery 979 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,600 you're still relying on the lithium from 980 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,279 solution to diffuse 981 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,840 into the material and so you can you can 982 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,440 still deplete the concentration of 983 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,720 lithium at the surface 984 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,399 and so you're still limited by that and 985 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:40,559 not only that that's the 986 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,919 the solution resistance but also the 987 00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:46,000 the diffusion resistance inside the 988 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,600 material right so you can you can 989 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,440 intercalate lithium or sodium right into 990 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,960 the surface of the material but it still 991 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,799 needs to diffuse throughout the material 992 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,039 to make room for more lithium or sodium 993 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,159 and so that can also limit the limit 994 00:32:58,159 --> 00:32:59,279 this reaction 995 00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,279 and so if that happens you'll see a 996 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:02,559 splitting of the peaks 997 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:05,840 okay and in general if if you increase 998 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,720 the scan speed right if you if we if 999 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,559 we're sweeping the voltage faster 1000 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:13,679 you'll see a bigger split in the peaks 1001 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:15,039 and also the current will also 1002 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,440 increase but you'll see a bigger split 1003 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,360 because diffusion is uh 1004 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,840 more limited at faster scan speeds 1005 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,840 okay 1006 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,159 um oh yeah so in this example this is 1007 00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:29,919 where i can talk more about you know if 1008 00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:31,279 you were to take this uh 1009 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,600 material and bring it you know measure 1010 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,399 it up to this point at zero volts 1011 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:38,080 uh versus its standard reduction 1012 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,039 potential and you were to stop the test 1013 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:43,519 okay what would happen well remember 1014 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,039 even even if we have 1015 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:48,559 are applying uh zero volts versus the 1016 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:51,039 standard reduction potential 1017 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:54,000 it's not at equilibrium even if we're 1018 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,120 applying the standard reduction 1019 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,080 potential it's not 1020 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,840 equilibrium yet because we have current 1021 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,200 we still have current if you have 1022 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,720 current it means there's a reaction 1023 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,720 undergoing and so that means it's not 1024 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720 equilibrium but over time if you hold it 1025 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,240 at zero volts the current will 1026 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,359 decay the current will go down and then 1027 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:11,119 reach zero current and then once it has 1028 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:12,399 reached zero current 1029 00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:14,960 then you're at equilibrium okay another 1030 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,480 thing to think about is you know what if 1031 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,679 we had taken this 1032 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,719 material pushed it to zero volts and 1033 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,079 then stop the test 1034 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,639 and then do no longer control the 1035 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:25,599 voltage if we 1036 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:29,280 if we if we no longer uh apply a current 1037 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,679 basically if we disconnect this wire you 1038 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,440 know we push it to zero volts and we 1039 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,079 disconnect 1040 00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:35,918 this wire what would happen to the 1041 00:34:35,918 --> 00:34:38,719 voltage the voltage would go back down 1042 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,320 because when we had brought it to zero 1043 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,119 volts by forcing electrons in or out of 1044 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:44,320 the solution 1045 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,000 that's not at equilibrium remember this 1046 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,079 cyclophotometry is not at equilibrium 1047 00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:50,000 we're pushing it away from equilibrium 1048 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,079 in order for the reaction to proceed 1049 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:53,839 and if we had stopped it at this point 1050 00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:55,520 it would go back the voltage would go 1051 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,000 back 1052 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,760 to whatever its equilibrium voltage 1053 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,119 would be would probably be it depends on 1054 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,640 the number of species that had already 1055 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,440 been reduced 1056 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,400 would be probably somewhere and again if 1057 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:04,800 we had 1058 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,400 if we had driven it all the way to zero 1059 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,920 held it there the current goes down to 1060 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,480 zero 1061 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,920 left it then at zero half the species 1062 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,599 are reduced and half the species are 1063 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:17,440 oxidized okay okay um oh yes another 1064 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,000 question 1065 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,599 to think about is in these three 1066 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,280 electrode cells 1067 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,280 i mentioned this before you know we're 1068 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,320 taking electro 1069 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,400 electrons away or giving electrons to 1070 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,839 the counter electrode 1071 00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:31,040 so there's some sort of redox reaction 1072 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,119 occurring at the counter electrode but 1073 00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:34,560 like i said we don't really care about 1074 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,599 it 1075 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,280 but in my research i was interested in 1076 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,240 learning what exactly it was going on at 1077 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:42,960 that 1078 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,119 um in part of my research i was 1079 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:46,640 investigating mixing 1080 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,119 uh non-aqueous and aqueous solvents 1081 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:50,079 together 1082 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,000 and doing three electrode tests but one 1083 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,839 of the problems was i wanted i wanted to 1084 00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:55,760 keep the concentration of water 1085 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,960 in my non-aqueous solvent consistent 1086 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,320 and but the problem is in a three 1087 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,160 electrode test if you have your 1088 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,040 counter electrode providing or taking 1089 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,920 electrons 1090 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,839 it means that something is breaking down 1091 00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:10,960 at that side 1092 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,720 which meant that the water was breaking 1093 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,240 down i wanted to keep that consistent so 1094 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:14,560 i 1095 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,720 in this experiment i just had a 1096 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:18,160 completely aqueous 1097 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,400 cell so it's all water and i had a 1098 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,440 electrolyte 1099 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,520 i had my material on carbon cloth 1100 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,480 electrode 1101 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,079 okay and what's different about this 1102 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:27,760 cell is that you know typically right i 1103 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,720 have my voltage 1104 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,640 against the reference electrode which is 1105 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,480 in this case with silver silver chloride 1106 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,720 is a different type of electro reference 1107 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,520 and the 1108 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,000 material and then the current between 1109 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,760 that and the counter electron 1110 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,280 electrode but also on another channel i 1111 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,640 was measuring the voltage 1112 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,720 between platinum and reference which is 1113 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:47,839 kind of unusual 1114 00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:49,920 this is the typical cv curve of my 1115 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,040 material which again was 1116 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,880 prussian blue and this is in water 1117 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680 so it's uh you have two different 1118 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,839 species of iron and that's why you get 1119 00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:00,400 two 1120 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,280 different peaks on cv because you have 1121 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,760 they're 1122 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,240 two different chemical chemical 1123 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:06,880 environments 1124 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,560 what's surrounding them is one is is 1125 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,320 carbon the other one is nitrogen 1126 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,560 so that changes the energy of the iron 1127 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,440 so that changes the 1128 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,680 reduction potential of the iron for each 1129 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,560 one 1130 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,240 and so what i did this is a little bit 1131 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,240 confusing but i'll go through it 1132 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,280 so on the first graph is the measuring 1133 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,480 in blue this is the cyclic voltometry 1134 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,079 scan all right so we're just controlling 1135 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:28,880 the voltage 1136 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,960 we're pushing it away from equilibrium 1137 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,240 and uh 1138 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,880 and it's sweeping it and then the red 1139 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,280 curve 1140 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,280 is the current of the cell okay the 1141 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,640 current between the 1142 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,040 carbon my my active material and the 1143 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,160 counter electrode 1144 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,880 the second graph is the voltage in blue 1145 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,839 again 1146 00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:48,240 from the counter electrode to the 1147 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:49,680 reference electrode during the same 1148 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,720 during the same time during the test 1149 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,520 okay and what you'll see is during high 1150 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,240 peaks of 1151 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,359 current when we when we we need to 1152 00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:00,320 supply 1153 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,640 a lot of electrodes or receive 1154 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,520 electrodes 1155 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,640 you see the voltage against the counter 1156 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,680 electrode 1157 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,280 uh is negative and then when we switch 1158 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,920 the current 1159 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,240 it goes to the positive and so if you 1160 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,079 see this plateau here i measure that 1161 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:17,040 plateau 1162 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,160 that potential at these two plateaus for 1163 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,160 the counter electrode that corresponds 1164 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,599 to the the 1165 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:25,440 the breaking down of water the 1166 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,280 electrolysis of water 1167 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,920 okay so that's what is happening on this 1168 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,000 counter electrode during our test 1169 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,920 is that we're breaking down water and 1170 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,520 either giving away electrons or 1171 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,800 receiving electrons 1172 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,880 so if we look at that in more detail so 1173 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,079 during the 1174 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,760 oxidation of my my material i need to 1175 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,079 take electrons away from the material so 1176 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:47,839 this is reaction a on the counter 1177 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:49,760 electrode or on the counter electrode 1178 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,000 the water is receiving electrons at this 1179 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,119 negative potential 1180 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,520 and breaking down into hydrogen gas and 1181 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,520 hydroxide ions 1182 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,599 okay and then on the reverse during 1183 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,200 reduction of my material 1184 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,440 i'm giving it electrons so that means 1185 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,040 that the counter electrode needs to 1186 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,320 supply electrons 1187 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,640 so we have positive potential where we 1188 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,599 break down 1189 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,960 water into oxygen gas and hydrogen 1190 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,280 ions and we give away electrons all 1191 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,440 right so that that these this is uh 1192 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,920 you know the where these electrons are 1193 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,720 coming from 1194 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,760 in the circuit right but again we're not 1195 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,800 too interested in this 1196 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,839 and as long as the cell is a large 1197 00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:28,720 volume 1198 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:32,079 you know any changes in ph should be 1199 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,280 rather insignificant okay unless you're 1200 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,560 going to run the test for you know a 1201 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,920 very long time 1202 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,680 or if the cell size is very small then 1203 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,800 it could influence it um 1204 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,280 one more thing you know so i drew these 1205 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,200 lines the lines represent the standard 1206 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,440 reduction potential or the the reduction 1207 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,320 potential 1208 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,680 of uh water either reducing or 1209 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,720 oxidizing but you notice that the actual 1210 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:57,520 voltage 1211 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,079 is either lower or higher than those 1212 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:00,560 lines 1213 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,960 corresponding to the amount of current 1214 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,200 that is needed to supply 1215 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,760 and so this this uh either over 1216 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,359 potential under potential 1217 00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:12,319 we call it over potential and it's an 1218 00:40:12,319 --> 00:40:13,920 additional thermodynamic you know 1219 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,040 driving force to 1220 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,079 increase the the rate of the reaction i 1221 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:18,720 like to 1222 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:22,079 think about it in related to 1223 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,160 how phase diagrams work for like for 1224 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,000 example the iron carbon phase diagram 1225 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,839 the steel phase diagram you guys are 1226 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:28,960 familiar with this 1227 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,880 you know if you're going from austenite 1228 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,960 to um 1229 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,960 perlite for example or austenite to 1230 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,400 alpha ferrite 1231 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,880 right you at high temperature the y-axis 1232 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,240 is temperature 1233 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,800 and you start an austenite and you lower 1234 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,760 the temperature 1235 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,920 and you reach that line right that line 1236 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,440 is the equilibrium line 1237 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,640 and then in order to transform austenite 1238 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,359 into perlite you need to go take bring 1239 00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:55,760 the temperature below that line 1240 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,599 and so that's that's called under 1241 00:40:57,599 --> 00:40:59,280 cooling is the amount of temperature 1242 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,359 below that phase equilibrium they have 1243 00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:02,240 to bring it 1244 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,319 to increase the thermodynamic driving 1245 00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:06,000 force for this transformation to 1246 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,839 occur and you guys know if you bring it 1247 00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:09,200 if you quench the material if you bring 1248 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:09,839 it down 1249 00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:12,560 faster and faster more and more that's a 1250 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,560 higher thermodynamic driving force 1251 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,720 for that transformation to occur the 1252 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,560 same idea can be applied to these 1253 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,440 voltages 1254 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,680 is that you know this line represents 1255 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,680 the phase 1256 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,760 equilibrium between you know the 1257 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,119 breaking down of water 1258 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:29,119 and we need to bring the voltage lower 1259 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,119 than that to increase the thermodynamic 1260 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,359 driving force for this reaction to occur 1261 00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:35,599 so we can either supply or receive more 1262 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:36,480 or less 1263 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,560 electrons okay so that's called 1264 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,760 overpotential 1265 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,079 and the amount of overpotential is 1266 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,680 related to the resistance 1267 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,760 in the cell for example diffusion 1268 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,359 resistance 1269 00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:48,960 water is kind of different because water 1270 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,480 is everywhere in the cell but let's say 1271 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,160 there's a different reaction happening 1272 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,400 where you needed ions from the solution 1273 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,760 to come to the surface 1274 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,680 right and just like before we had 1275 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,200 diffusion limits 1276 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,440 you know that can add additional 1277 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,319 resistance 1278 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:04,079 and you might see this voltage drop even 1279 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,079 lower in order to get that required 1280 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:07,359 current that you need because 1281 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,200 of the slow diffusion of ions to the 1282 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,560 surface 1283 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,200 that's one i one way there's other other 1284 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,560 other things that can increase this 1285 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,680 resistance such as the the surface area 1286 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,720 of your electrode okay if you use a 1287 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,240 small wire 1288 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,400 that has very small surface area as your 1289 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,839 counter electrode you have 1290 00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:30,480 you don't have too many active sites for 1291 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,760 electron transfer 1292 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,880 but if you use a large sheet a larger 1293 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,040 film of platinum for example has a 1294 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,640 larger surface area 1295 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,119 you know you have more active redox 1296 00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:41,680 sites 1297 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,119 on the surface so uh the you don't have 1298 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:46,079 to have as much 1299 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,160 over potential to create the same amount 1300 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,839 of current 1301 00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:52,560 okay i i like to think of it and i'm not 1302 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,440 sure if this is correct 1303 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,119 although i i'm pretty sure you can be 1304 00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,599 thought of this way as ohm's law 1305 00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,640 so if if we require a certain amount of 1306 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,200 current 1307 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,640 but there's a certain amount of 1308 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,480 resistance in our 1309 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,160 cell for example the diffusion 1310 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,760 resistance or the the 1311 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,560 the electrical resistance then that 1312 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,440 creates 1313 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,079 a certain amount of over potential which 1314 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:15,520 is the potential drop 1315 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,319 in the cell uh beyond of like this 1316 00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:19,200 equilibrium 1317 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,240 position okay so as i 1318 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:25,040 goes up as i goes up like this red line 1319 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,760 has a peak then the voltage drop 1320 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,599 also goes up okay 1321 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:33,359 oh okay so since we were talking about 1322 00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:34,480 prussian blue this would be the last 1323 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,680 thing we talked about actually 1324 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,960 all right um 1325 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,040 uh i'll let me introduce a little bit 1326 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,160 more history about 1327 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,079 this material that i've been doing 1328 00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:45,359 research on 1329 00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:48,240 um suppression blue is the the trade 1330 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:48,800 name 1331 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,440 the chemical name is iron 1332 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,160 hexacyanopherate 1333 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,880 and it's a quite quite interesting 1334 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,000 history 1335 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,640 it was discovered in the early 1700s by 1336 00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,200 a 1337 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,839 paint maker okay who is mixing chemicals 1338 00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:03,680 together to make a paint 1339 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,079 and it was first the the synthesis was 1340 00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,720 first published in 1731 1341 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,920 and by this guy george stahl and i 1342 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,599 i could be wrong i thought george stahl 1343 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:15,200 might have been from from 1344 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,480 england working in berlin 1345 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,680 and what was interesting is i found the 1346 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,960 original 1347 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,319 publication that includes the synthesis 1348 00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:27,920 of what was called at the time berlin 1349 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,839 blue is discovered 1350 00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:32,400 named after the city it was made in 1351 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,599 which at the time 1352 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:37,119 berlin was part of the prussian empire 1353 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:38,880 which is why it's called prussian blue 1354 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,720 and not german blue and 1355 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,920 you guys know have any idea what 1356 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,280 language this was published in 1357 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,440 so again it was i think a english guy 1358 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,960 working in 1359 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,760 germany and what language did he publish 1360 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,160 this 1361 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,040 this article in 1362 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:06,240 i'll have the chat open hold on 1363 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:07,680 if you guys have been asking questions i 1364 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,880 haven't seen any of them because the 1365 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,680 chat wasn't open 1366 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,760 okay no no question okay well if you 1367 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,960 can't read it 1368 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,440 yes that's correct aaron uh the the 1369 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,480 language 1370 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,520 is latin and if you if you know the 1371 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,000 the language of science during this time 1372 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:26,640 period 1373 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,640 was latin even though this guy was 1374 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,480 english and he was in germany 1375 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,839 uh he everything was published in latin 1376 00:45:33,839 --> 00:45:35,839 and so now now these days the language 1377 00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:36,880 of science is english 1378 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,440 so yeah convenient for us um 1379 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,720 that was kind of interesting so i found 1380 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:44,720 this paper on like the google books and 1381 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:45,839 you know how you can search through 1382 00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:46,720 google books like 1383 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,280 word by word and so i i had translated 1384 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,480 berlin blue into 1385 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,640 latin to find exactly what page it was 1386 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,680 on which was kind of 1387 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,280 kind of cool i don't know what the rest 1388 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,079 of it says but um anyway so 1389 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,160 it's significant this material was 1390 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,280 discovered because 1391 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,640 it became the first synthetic 1392 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,079 paint pigment uh before for at least for 1393 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,720 blue i mean for blue paint pigment 1394 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,560 before the blues were made out of 1395 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,240 crushed up minerals which 1396 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:16,560 could be uh quite expensive and this was 1397 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,760 provided a cheaper 1398 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,040 alternative that can also be mass 1399 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,280 produced and so it's used in a lot of 1400 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,640 different famous paintings a lot of 1401 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,400 paintings it's very common paint pigment 1402 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,839 actually 1403 00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:27,520 such as the starry night by vincent van 1404 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,119 gogh 1405 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:31,200 and there's a bunch of these different 1406 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,760 paints are named after the materials 1407 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,359 that are used to make them like a 1408 00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:36,880 titanium oxide white or 1409 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,960 lead oxide white if you guys remember a 1410 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,640 couple weeks ago i was talking about 1411 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,119 gerocite as a material gyrocyte has a 1412 00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:44,560 yellow color and 1413 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,240 it also has a paint pigment called 1414 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,640 gerocite yellow or something like that 1415 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,599 so kind of interesting 1416 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,640 so this is oh let me go back here this 1417 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,000 is the crystal structure 1418 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,119 of uh the prussian blue 1419 00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:02,240 um and it has a cage-like structure 1420 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:02,560 where 1421 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,920 where you have uh iron fcc 1422 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,079 lattice so face-centered cubic lattice 1423 00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:09,760 of iron 1424 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,599 in the high spin state so these are the 1425 00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,520 corners in the face center and then also 1426 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:13,839 it's 1427 00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:17,359 another fcc lattice of low spin iron and 1428 00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:19,520 the low spin iron is coordinated 1429 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,400 uh octahedrally by six cyanide ligands 1430 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,440 so cyanide as you probably know is a 1431 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,880 toxic material and the reason why it's 1432 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,520 toxic 1433 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,480 is is similar to carbon monoxide so if 1434 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,240 we breathe in carbon monoxide 1435 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,960 it it binds to the iron in our in our 1436 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,839 blood 1437 00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:43,119 uh the heme group and that prevents it 1438 00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:44,800 from delivering oxygen to different 1439 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,400 parts of our body 1440 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,119 and uh the same idea for cyanide is it 1441 00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:50,880 binds the iron in our blood if we 1442 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,599 breathe it in 1443 00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:55,440 and then prevents the oxygen transport 1444 00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:59,520 however the iron prussian blue 1445 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,920 is relatively non-hazardous 1446 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,520 okay even though it contains this 1447 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,200 cyanide ion and it's exactly the same 1448 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,119 reason because this the bonding between 1449 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,520 the iron the cyanide is very strong 1450 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,720 so it's very safe to handle um 1451 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,440 unless you unless you eat it and then 1452 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,160 maybe 1453 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,440 perhaps uh the it can break down in your 1454 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,520 your stomach acid but um i'm not sure 1455 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,200 actually actually i could be i might be 1456 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,720 wrong actually i i think i'm wrong 1457 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:29,119 because 1458 00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,680 i know for a fact that prussian blue or 1459 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,599 at least this kind of the material is 1460 00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:34,400 used 1461 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,839 as a medicine for radioactive poisoning 1462 00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:39,920 so for example if you ingest a 1463 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,520 radioactive element 1464 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,280 particularly it's just for i think 1465 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,000 cesium a radioactive cesium 1466 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,839 and if it's in your body you would take 1467 00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:49,599 this medicine prussian blue 1468 00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:52,400 and eat it i i guess you eat it eat it 1469 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,680 this is not medical advice i'm not a 1470 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,280 doctor so don't 1471 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,119 don't be eating this stuff that you 1472 00:48:57,119 --> 00:48:58,880 encounter radioactive poisoning 1473 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,240 but the idea is just like in a lithium 1474 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,319 or sodium ion battery it has these large 1475 00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:06,000 cage-like structures i have another 1476 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,720 slide here 1477 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:10,000 large cage structures that can absorb uh 1478 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,079 large monovalent and even divalent ions 1479 00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,440 okay so cesium is monovalent cesium plus 1480 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,200 and so it's a very large ion so this 1481 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,839 this material can absorb the radioactive 1482 00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:23,920 cesium from it and then i guess you 1483 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,160 pee or poop it out layer and gets rid of 1484 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,200 it from your body 1485 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,960 uh but that's why how it's used as a 1486 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,559 medicine for radio radiation poisoning 1487 00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:34,720 but the same idea you know the advantage 1488 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,559 of this structure is that has these very 1489 00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:38,079 open cages 1490 00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:40,480 so there's a lot of volume interstitial 1491 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,200 volume for large ions to be intercalated 1492 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,760 in and out of it at very fast rates 1493 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,520 right so the diffusion coefficient of 1494 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,200 these ions in the material 1495 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,359 are fairly high which is good for a 1496 00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:53,280 battery material 1497 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,280 and not only that but such a large space 1498 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,280 you can you can incorporate even larger 1499 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,520 ions other than like lithium 1500 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,040 for example sodium plus has good 1501 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,280 diffusion potassium ion has been 1502 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,200 investigated for this material potassium 1503 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,720 ion battery that is 1504 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:09,839 um i forget that also there's a there's 1505 00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:11,599 a research group in portland i figure 1506 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:12,079 out what 1507 00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,359 university or in oregon 1508 00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:17,760 and they're they're investigating 1509 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,800 ammonium 1510 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,920 ion batteries so instead of a single 1511 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,880 atom 1512 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,079 it's a molecule of nh4 plus that gets 1513 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:27,040 intercalated 1514 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,520 in and out of this material and the 1515 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,119 advantage of using 1516 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:35,359 um different well one of the factors 1517 00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:39,040 uh changing the intercalation 1518 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,319 ion well the size of it changes the 1519 00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:44,000 redox potential 1520 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,280 of this material and the larger the ion 1521 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,720 this has been studied that the larger 1522 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:49,599 the ion 1523 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,319 that's intercalated the higher the redox 1524 00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:53,440 potential which is 1525 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,839 is good for a cathode material you want 1526 00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:56,960 higher potential 1527 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,040 and the ammonium ions the largest of 1528 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,040 them all and it has the highest redox 1529 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,920 potential for 1530 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,599 prussian blue if you intercalated it 1531 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,079 and one one thing i should point out is 1532 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,319 that you know in this diagram i i draw 1533 00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:11,040 the 1534 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,280 the metal plus ion the monovalent ion 1535 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,200 right in the center of these cages which 1536 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,599 is is not necessarily true 1537 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:22,720 um because these cages are really open 1538 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,800 and it's just if you guys remember from 1539 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,119 like msc 170 when you calculate the 1540 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:28,400 coordination of different 1541 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,359 uh materials you know if if the ion size 1542 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:33,920 is a certain ratio to the cation size 1543 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,920 anion the cation size it'll either be 1544 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,359 tetrahedral octahedral 1545 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:39,119 right basically you don't want to have a 1546 00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:41,440 small ion surrounded in a big cage 1547 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,040 because then it's it can rattle around 1548 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,200 it's not very energetically favorable 1549 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,800 and so the same cases here is that this 1550 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,359 cage is so big it's not necessarily the 1551 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:50,599 most energetic 1552 00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:52,800 energetically favorable site is in the 1553 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,880 middle actually there's a lot of studies 1554 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:55,200 that 1555 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,800 show simulations that the most energetic 1556 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,200 sites might actually be you know inside 1557 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,640 one of these squares or against one of 1558 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,920 these squares or against one of these 1559 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,119 corners so 1560 00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:06,559 it's kind of just a simplification in 1561 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,400 this diagram 1562 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,359 and also well i'll get into that later 1563 00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:13,599 there's a lot going on here 1564 00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:16,880 okay so like i said before uh the energy 1565 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,559 state of 1566 00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:21,599 the two different irons or excuse me the 1567 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:23,520 yeah the electron energies of two 1568 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,040 different irons are different 1569 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,040 because of what's coordinated to them so 1570 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,359 the iron on the outside of this equation 1571 00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:30,079 here that's 1572 00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,400 bonded to the nitrogen of the cyanide 1573 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,200 complex 1574 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,680 that is in what's called the high spin 1575 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,680 state okay so these are the d 1576 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,800 orbitals the electron orbitals and if 1577 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,160 you take a single 1578 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,960 ion ion that's not surrounded by 1579 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,760 anything 1580 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,920 all the energy is symmetric all around 1581 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,040 and there's nothing around it if you 1582 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,480 take a single iron ion 1583 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,240 all the energies are equivalent they're 1584 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:53,760 all equal they're all lined up 1585 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,520 with each other but as soon as you start 1586 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,960 putting things around it 1587 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,800 like ligands for example the cyanide 1588 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,040 ligand then that's going to change the 1589 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,480 energy states of these different 1590 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,119 orbitals and for octahedral symmetry 1591 00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,440 it makes these this kind of deviation of 1592 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,640 energy states 1593 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,680 of the the d orbital electrons 1594 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,440 okay and so depending on what is bonded 1595 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,480 to it and also like 1596 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,960 the bond length of the ligands that 1597 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,280 changes the energy splitting 1598 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,599 of these two energy levels of the d 1599 00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,839 orbitals and if that energy splitting is 1600 00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:29,520 large enough then you start to 1601 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,839 start to pair up these electrons because 1602 00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:34,319 it's more energetically favorable 1603 00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:36,960 to make pairs of electrons before 1604 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,920 distributing them to all these single 1605 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,720 unoccupied states and this is called the 1606 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:43,119 low 1607 00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:45,760 spin state i think i go into that a bit 1608 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:46,880 more 1609 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,040 later so this is a schematic of how the 1610 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,960 sodium ion battery works for prussian 1611 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,520 blue 1612 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,440 so actually when i synthesize the 1613 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,680 material most often it's 1614 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,559 synthesized as the partially reduced 1615 00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:01,040 state 1616 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,640 all right so it already has a sodium 1617 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,480 inside of it and it's in the mixed 1618 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,559 valence between three plus and two plus 1619 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,119 for the different irons and so usually 1620 00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:10,000 the first step 1621 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,800 when i uh characterize my battery is i 1622 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,559 have to either discharge it or charge it 1623 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:15,119 first 1624 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,520 but so the charging process is when 1625 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,319 we're taking 1626 00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:21,839 sodium ions out of the material and 1627 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:22,800 we're also taking 1628 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,720 electrons out remember i said we have to 1629 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:26,000 maintain charged 1630 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,319 neutrality that's the golden rule about 1631 00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:29,040 everything 1632 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,800 you have to if you take an electron out 1633 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,400 of a system you also have to take a 1634 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,440 positive ion 1635 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,160 out of the system so we take a sodium 1636 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,680 out we also take an electron out 1637 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,760 that would that oxidizes this iron two 1638 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,599 plus iron three plus so it's empty 1639 00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:44,000 this is the fully charged state or fully 1640 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,359 oxidized state 1641 00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:47,119 i i guess i should be using the terms 1642 00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:48,720 oxidized versus reduced or 1643 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,880 instead of charged versus discharge 1644 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,119 because 1645 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:54,880 you could be saying talking about the 1646 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,960 same thing for an anode material and 1647 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,319 it'd be the opposite but this is a 1648 00:54:58,319 --> 00:54:59,680 cathode material so when we take the 1649 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,400 ions out 1650 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,680 it's charged and uh and then we 1651 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,280 go through the test of discharging the 1652 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,359 battery okay and so the 1653 00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:09,520 there's different potentials like i said 1654 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,760 the first the low spin has the higher 1655 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:12,559 potential 1656 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,720 so we introduce an electron and the 1657 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:16,319 sodium intercalates 1658 00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:19,359 and that reduces the low spin iron and 1659 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:20,480 then we have another 1660 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,760 step where we introduce a second sodium 1661 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,559 ion 1662 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:26,880 and that reduces the high spin state and 1663 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,240 so those are the two 1664 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:33,119 redox steps in this material 1665 00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:36,480 this is a bit more explanation about the 1666 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,559 crystal field splitting which is the you 1667 00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:40,240 know the energy splitting of these d 1668 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,599 orbitals i think i was just showing 1669 00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,000 um i don't have to go in too much detail 1670 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,160 but showing that the chemical species 1671 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,359 the ligand that surrounds this iron ion 1672 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:53,440 affects that energy splitting and 1673 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,480 eventually get to 1674 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,440 a high a large enough splitting that 1675 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,960 these electrons uh 1676 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,319 will go into the low spin state 1677 00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:05,280 um you guys remember from chemistry 1678 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,079 class 1679 00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,079 what this uh principle is called when 1680 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:09,760 you're you're adding electrons to 1681 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,160 orbitals it's um 1682 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,799 the poly exclusion principle i think i 1683 00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:16,240 think that's it poly exclusion 1684 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,160 paulie's exclusion poly exclusion 1685 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,799 principle um where you know you're 1686 00:56:20,799 --> 00:56:23,440 when you add electrons to these orbitals 1687 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,280 it's more energetically favorable to 1688 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,960 have them unoccupied so you're just 1689 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,359 going to add one to each orbital 1690 00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:32,160 but in this case for low spin right it's 1691 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,079 more energetically favorable 1692 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:37,760 to pair them before adding them to the 1693 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,880 this empty higher energy state okay 1694 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,079 so that when you add electron when you 1695 00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:45,760 pair an electron together 1696 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,079 there's a pairing energy involved so you 1697 00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,160 know when i add this electron in here 1698 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,680 the energy state of these orbitals 1699 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,520 actually increases 1700 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,040 and which is not indicated by these 1701 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,280 diagrams but in general you know if that 1702 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,079 that 1703 00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:01,200 added energy is larger than what these 1704 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,160 energies are at 1705 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,599 then it'll go into the high spin because 1706 00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:05,119 it's more energetically favorable to put 1707 00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:06,480 in that position 1708 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,559 anyways this is kind of a more advanced 1709 00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,640 inorganic chemistry that 1710 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,000 we don't need to know too much about 1711 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,880 just kind of skim over 1712 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,920 um oh there's more there's more i made 1713 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,119 these slides so i like to show them 1714 00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:20,559 because i spent a lot of work you know 1715 00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,079 putting in the fine detail 1716 00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:23,119 it's important when you make 1717 00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:26,480 presentations that the extra detail um 1718 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,400 like for example i put a lot of work 1719 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,400 into these these are all handmade these 1720 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,720 diagrams these reference electrodes so 1721 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,640 you spend you know 30 minutes to an hour 1722 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,079 maybe less or more 1723 00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:37,599 making these diagrams and then you can 1724 00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:39,359 use them throughout your you know your 1725 00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:41,040 entire career you just recycle them 1726 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,480 right so it's 1727 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,599 it's nice to have nice nice diagrams but 1728 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:47,680 in this case i talk about how the 1729 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,920 octahedral splitting energy which is 1730 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,880 this this uh 1731 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,359 this energy gap depends on different 1732 00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:54,799 things like the metal ion that you're 1733 00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:56,160 looking at so in general 1734 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,559 uh i think you might be able to relate 1735 00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:00,640 this to the periodic table 1736 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,240 but valence state is definitely one of 1737 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,760 them so like manganese two plus versus 1738 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,119 manganese four plus 1739 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,440 uh that energy gap will change depending 1740 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,040 on if the valence state 1741 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,119 and then i think more importantly is the 1742 00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:12,640 ligand okay 1743 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,720 so what is being surround what is 1744 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,960 surrounding these ions either in liquid 1745 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,160 or in solid 1746 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,200 it will change that energy and so you 1747 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:21,440 know 1748 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,359 typically you're used to seeing all the 1749 00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:25,040 d orbitals lined up like this 1750 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,599 right in this case there's the it's 1751 00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:28,480 symmetric 1752 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,640 uh electric field there's nothing around 1753 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,160 it coordinated to it 1754 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,680 and then you start coordinating things 1755 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,079 to it and then that changes the energy 1756 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,040 okay yeah so here's carbon monoxide and 1757 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:39,920 cyanide as 1758 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,119 strong uh ligands 1759 00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,520 oh here's some more some more diagrams 1760 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,520 uh this just talks about the 1761 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,839 different orbitals between the the metal 1762 00:58:49,839 --> 00:58:51,520 ion the metal center 1763 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,160 and the ligand and what pairs they make 1764 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,040 and whether it's 1765 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,960 you know if you have these pi orbitals 1766 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,880 that make a pi bond 1767 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,000 um right so if you have an empty pi 1768 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,760 orbital for the ligand and then it's 1769 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,599 accepting electrons from the 1770 00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:08,720 or from the metal pi uh t2g 1771 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,799 orbitals then it's a pi acceptor and 1772 00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:12,799 that that correlates with the larger 1773 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:13,680 energy gap 1774 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,760 anyways don't need to uh 1775 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,280 there's one more this is a molecular 1776 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,760 orbital diagram of iron cyanide 1777 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,839 uh so you have your iron ion your six 1778 00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:27,119 cyanides and how 1779 00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:29,760 how the orbitals of the cyanides pair up 1780 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,520 with the orbitals of the 1781 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,520 the iron to make these bonds right so 1782 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,799 you have sigma bonds and 1783 00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:38,559 pi bonds and then the energy gap 1784 00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:41,119 and so on 1785 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,000 oh one thing i want to bring up is uh 1786 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,359 not it's it's loosely related 1787 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:52,640 when i was when i was making these 1788 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,160 orbital diagrams learning more about 1789 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:54,640 this 1790 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,760 these energies um you know in chemistry 1791 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,440 like high school chemistry and freshman 1792 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,680 chemistry we we always learn 1793 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,440 you know when we're adding the the 1794 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,839 energies like counting up the electrons 1795 01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:07,119 in these different energies 1796 01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,839 in orbitals we always learn to fill the 1797 01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:10,319 four 1798 01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:14,079 s orbitals before the 3d 1799 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:16,799 orbitals and i was wondering i was 1800 01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:19,280 trying to figure out why that was 1801 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,480 and because you know i actually i found 1802 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,760 some papers 1803 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,760 related to chemic chemistry education 1804 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,839 saying that why we should not teach it 1805 01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:31,280 that way 1806 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,960 um and the proof 1807 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,599 that i mean 4s has higher energy than 3d 1808 01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:40,799 and that's the controversy 1809 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:42,960 right i'm saying this is 4s has a higher 1810 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,559 energy than 3d 1811 01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:46,559 and the proof is that if you had let's 1812 01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:48,640 say a neutral iron 1813 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,359 atom so you have uh you have two 1814 01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:53,440 electrons in the 4s 1815 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,599 and you have you know these or the six 1816 01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:56,880 electrons in the 3d 1817 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,240 so you know of course yeah that makes 1818 01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,920 sense you're filling the 4s before you 1819 01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,799 filled the 3d 1820 01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:06,240 but which electron has the highest 1821 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,319 energy is the question and i'm saying 1822 01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:09,839 the 4s has higher 1823 01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:13,359 energy than 3d and the proof is that if 1824 01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:14,000 you were to 1825 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,480 ionize this iron let's say we're 1826 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,960 ionizing it to iron two plus or iron one 1827 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,280 plus 1828 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,079 which doesn't exist which electron do 1829 01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:23,119 you take away 1830 01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:26,720 are you taking away the 3d electron 1831 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,480 because according to what we learned in 1832 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,920 chemistry class we would take away the 1833 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,319 3d 1834 01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:31,839 electron because it has a higher energy 1835 01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:33,680 but i'm saying well actually 4s has a 1836 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,359 higher length g anyways that's the proof 1837 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:35,680 that 1838 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,319 yeah you take away from the 4s orbital 1839 01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:39,680 when you ionize something you always 1840 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,680 take away the highest energy electron 1841 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,960 and it's coming from the forest and 1842 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,040 that's a brief aside 1843 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,480 but it's something you might want to 1844 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,440 investigate for yourself 1845 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,000 here's another related side note by it's 1846 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,920 it's related to like these energy levels 1847 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:54,160 in 1848 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,280 in materials as well so we have three uh 1849 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,359 materials here corundum ruby and 1850 01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:00,880 sapphire do you guys know 1851 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,880 what what chemical equation this is 1852 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,559 for these materials what's the chemical 1853 01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:08,240 formula of these materials or at least 1854 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,359 corundum for example 1855 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,200 and it's okay if you don't know but i 1856 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,640 hope after today you'll know 1857 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,920 or ruby or sapphire you know if i say 1858 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,039 hey what's what's the 1859 01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:25,359 chemical equation for sapphire anyway 1860 01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:27,599 the chemical equation 1861 01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:30,240 is aluminum oxide for all three of these 1862 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,200 materials 1863 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,359 okay so the base material is all 1864 01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:34,799 aluminum oxide and it 1865 01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:36,400 is evident you know they all have 1866 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,839 similar crystal 1867 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:39,520 crystallographic orientations in the 1868 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:40,960 crystal shapes so 1869 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,720 they're all the same material the 1870 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,400 difference between ruby and sapphire is 1871 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,520 that we've added 1872 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,640 a dopant so a dopant is a small 1873 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,880 concentration of ions 1874 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,280 that's substituted with the aluminum in 1875 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,200 this material 1876 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,200 and the dopant for ruby is chromium so 1877 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,720 adding a little bit of chromium like 1878 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,160 less than one percent 1879 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,200 will make corundum red ruby 1880 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,440 okay and then for sapphire to make it 1881 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:06,640 blue it's uh 1882 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,799 you have to add both titanium and iron 1883 01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:09,680 two plus 1884 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,200 and there's some kind of exchange in 1885 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,799 electrons when it absorbs light so 1886 01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:14,480 that's why you need two 1887 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,319 um so i guess the the question is 1888 01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:20,400 well let me move on so here's another 1889 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,480 example 1890 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,119 where we compare corundum and another 1891 01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:26,640 mineral called barrel 1892 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,839 okay another the beryllium aluminum 1893 01:03:28,839 --> 01:03:30,480 silicate 1894 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,640 in both of these materials if you 1895 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,640 substitute i believe it's aluminum from 1896 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,119 barrel 1897 01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:37,200 that could be wrong substitute about one 1898 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,799 percent chromium 1899 01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:41,280 into both of these materials it turns 1900 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:41,920 the 1901 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,960 corndom red but it turns barrel green 1902 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,039 and that's called emerald 1903 01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:49,520 so the question is why how can the same 1904 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:50,400 ion 1905 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,559 that is being substituted into these two 1906 01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:53,680 materials 1907 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,559 turn one red and one green okay 1908 01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:01,680 and uh it has to do with the 1909 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,440 the the d orbital splitting of the 1910 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,520 chromium which is responsible for the 1911 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,640 absorbing the light 1912 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,559 in the material okay just like i talked 1913 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:12,079 before you know it's all about these 1914 01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:15,200 energy levels of these d electrons and 1915 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,559 what is around it affects that energy 1916 01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:19,760 level 1917 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,640 uh this is a tanabe sugano diagram 1918 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,079 that's used often with these 1919 01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:27,680 uh kind of kind of uh light absorbent 1920 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:28,880 materials 1921 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,359 um and actually uh uh ta from the 1922 01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:32,000 morning group 1923 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,760 helped explain this because i i wasn't 1924 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,599 too familiar i made these slides a long 1925 01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,280 time ago i knew it at the time but 1926 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,960 i i can explain it a little bit so but 1927 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,480 i'm i'm kind of paraphrasing what he 1928 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,359 said 1929 01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:44,960 so the x-axis is the ligand field energy 1930 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,960 okay or crystal field energy you could 1931 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,240 also say is is the 1932 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,720 is the energy splitting of these d 1933 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,559 electrons 1934 01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:55,200 in the this is the octahedral 1935 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,400 configuration of the 1936 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,839 d electrons so if you're at a 1937 01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:02,400 crystal field energy of zero what that 1938 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,079 essentially is saying is that nothing is 1939 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:05,039 surrounding 1940 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:06,960 your metal ion you know it's just it's 1941 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,880 just saying it's like this this has a 1942 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,960 splitting energy of zero all these 1943 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,799 energy orbitals are at the same level 1944 01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:15,599 there's nothing surrounding the ion but 1945 01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:17,200 as soon as you start surrounding 1946 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,920 the ion then you start splitting that 1947 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,440 those energy levels 1948 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,599 and depending on the ligand strength and 1949 01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:26,160 the bond length the bond strength of the 1950 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,039 the ions and ligands that affects the 1951 01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:30,559 ligand field energy 1952 01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:34,079 okay and then this is the energy 1953 01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:38,720 of light that's absorbed by the material 1954 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,599 okay so for a chromium i found i found 1955 01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:42,079 these 1956 01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:44,480 uh this information for chromium that 1957 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:45,920 the ligand field energy 1958 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,720 of chromium in aluminum oxide is you 1959 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,160 know 2.2 volts and then 1960 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,119 in the barrel it's a little bit less and 1961 01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:54,160 that affects 1962 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,280 the the energy level of the light 1963 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,480 absorbed 1964 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,559 so in aluminum oxide you're absorbing 1965 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:02,319 these two like spectrums of light and 1966 01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:03,200 then 1967 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,880 beryllium you're absorbing different 1968 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,799 colors of light which means different 1969 01:06:06,799 --> 01:06:08,559 colors of light is transmitted 1970 01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:10,960 all right so this helps explain why 1971 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,000 chromium 1972 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,680 is responsible for both the red light 1973 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,119 and green light in both of these 1974 01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:15,760 materials 1975 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,039 and is different because the ligand 1976 01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:19,599 field energy and liquid field energy is 1977 01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:21,680 different because the local environment 1978 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,200 surrounding the chromium atom ion 1979 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,559 is different in these two different 1980 01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:28,799 materials all right 1981 01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:30,839 so now you kind of see how everything is 1982 01:06:30,839 --> 01:06:34,160 related i talked about 1983 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,839 you know how it's related in the battery 1984 01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:38,799 materials 1985 01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:41,680 right that changes the redox potential 1986 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,039 of the battery materials 1987 01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:45,039 it changes the optical properties of 1988 01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:46,400 these materials 1989 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,400 there's one more i thought but i forget 1990 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:49,920 anyways 1991 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,599 and here's another chart it just relates 1992 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,319 the dopant concentration the color 1993 01:06:54,319 --> 01:06:55,839 so i guess chromium oxide is green 1994 01:06:55,839 --> 01:06:57,599 aluminum oxide is clear but you add 1995 01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:00,400 chromium makes it red 1996 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,839 um so just uh quickly go over we're 1997 01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:07,119 about about a bit over time that's fine 1998 01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:08,640 i'll just kind of talk about some of the 1999 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,599 data from my 2000 01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:12,960 my publication so again this was 2001 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,880 looking at prussian blue is looking at 2002 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,200 the synthesis of prussian blue 2003 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,280 now and typically the synthesis if you 2004 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,280 add a 2005 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,640 ferrocyanide salt such as sodium 2006 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,799 ferrocyanide and dissolve it in water 2007 01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:28,480 and then add a ferric or ferrous salt 2008 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,960 uh the pres it undergoes a precipitation 2009 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,680 reaction 2010 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,400 okay the the solubility product of 2011 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,280 prussian blue 2012 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,760 in water is very low it's like 10 to the 2013 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,920 negative 200 it's 2014 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,319 very very low so that means as soon as 2015 01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:44,160 these ions are in contact 2016 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,400 they're going to precipitate into a 2017 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,760 solid okay 2018 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,559 and because of such high precipitation 2019 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:52,079 or low solubility product 2020 01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:55,200 what ends up happening happening is you 2021 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:55,520 get 2022 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,440 very small nano particles you get very 2023 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,599 high nucleation 2024 01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:01,920 and if you have high nucleation you 2025 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,119 usually have 2026 01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:04,720 low growth all right because you're 2027 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,559 taking the ions away from solution 2028 01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:09,680 ions allow you to uh to grow the the 2029 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:10,319 crystal 2030 01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:11,760 and so you what ends up having you have 2031 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,599 these really uh 2032 01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:17,279 rough nanoparticles um and 2033 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,238 they're more or less not grown under 2034 01:08:20,238 --> 01:08:22,158 thermodynamic conditions so they don't 2035 01:08:22,158 --> 01:08:22,719 have 2036 01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:25,120 nice facets or cubic structure and 2037 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,719 there's a lot of vacancies in water 2038 01:08:26,719 --> 01:08:28,399 because of the fast reaction as well 2039 01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:31,759 so the idea was to add a collating agent 2040 01:08:31,759 --> 01:08:34,479 to this reaction that would collate to 2041 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,679 one of the iron 2042 01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:38,000 ions so essentially we're reducing the 2043 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,279 activity 2044 01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:42,560 of the iron species in solution and that 2045 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,799 would help slow down the precipitation 2046 01:08:44,799 --> 01:08:45,759 reaction 2047 01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:48,399 and then also adjust the ph because the 2048 01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:50,000 chelation strength of this 2049 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,040 chelate is uh affected by uh 2050 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,960 the ph uh and so what ended up happening 2051 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:57,920 right you get 2052 01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,520 a different ph you get different sized 2053 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,679 particles you get different uh 2054 01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:03,600 vacancy content different water content 2055 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,719 and then more imports 2056 01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:06,880 most importantly you had a different uh 2057 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,560 redox 2058 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,600 characterization so here's another view 2059 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,158 of it 2060 01:09:12,158 --> 01:09:14,319 these are the particles growing at lower 2061 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:16,479 ph at higher ph the particles were 2062 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,238 much larger but what's interesting if 2063 01:09:18,238 --> 01:09:19,520 you look at these particles 2064 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,238 they're not necessarily cubic right i 2065 01:09:22,238 --> 01:09:22,640 mean 2066 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,120 they're definitely faceted and if it's 2067 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:25,839 faceted 2068 01:09:25,839 --> 01:09:27,359 it means that like i said it's grown 2069 01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,679 under thermodynamic conditions you're 2070 01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:32,158 you're you're when you grow a crystal 2071 01:09:32,158 --> 01:09:33,759 you're going to grow 2072 01:09:33,759 --> 01:09:36,319 you're going to expand the surfaces that 2073 01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:37,279 have the lowest 2074 01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:40,399 surface energy okay and this 2075 01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:42,238 in this uh crystal structure it's going 2076 01:09:42,238 --> 01:09:43,439 to be a cube 2077 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,359 but like just looking at it you know you 2078 01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:47,359 have like a rectangular prism here you 2079 01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:49,040 have something with like a step 2080 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,198 you have like an l shape here it's kind 2081 01:09:51,198 --> 01:09:52,399 of weird and 2082 01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:53,520 you can see the same thing in the 2083 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:54,960 smaller one but they're just much 2084 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,000 smaller 2085 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,600 and so the what i had done some 2086 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,000 literature research and it seems like 2087 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,600 it's fairly common with the prussian 2088 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,560 blue material 2089 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,120 grown under thermodynamic conditions to 2090 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,640 make a what's called a 2091 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,960 meso crystal a mesocrystal is when you 2092 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,560 take smaller crystals 2093 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,440 and then they they aggregate together in 2094 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:15,679 an 2095 01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:17,679 oriented manner and then they can fuse 2096 01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:19,199 together to make another bigger 2097 01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:21,520 single crystal out of these small nano 2098 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,880 crystals okay 2099 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,760 and so that that's sure that makes sense 2100 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,440 and it's supported by literature 2101 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,199 but the other question was you know why 2102 01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:31,199 why do i have small 2103 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:35,760 mesocrystals versus large mesocrystals 2104 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,360 and also saying that they're 2105 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,440 mesocrystals of speculation i haven't i 2106 01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:40,960 don't have any hard evidence that they 2107 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,640 are mesocrystals but other than 2108 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,600 laser but the question why is this small 2109 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,719 and why are these big 2110 01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:49,920 and so my my proposal my proposed 2111 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,679 mechanism was well 2112 01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:55,679 uh because the the solubility product of 2113 01:10:55,679 --> 01:10:57,040 this material is so low and they 2114 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,960 precipitate so fast or there's such high 2115 01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,920 nucleation 2116 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,400 that the particles growing at low ph 2117 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,480 have much higher nucleation 2118 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,560 and then that results in very small 2119 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,199 crystals and then those small crystals 2120 01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:11,679 together can aggregate to form smaller 2121 01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:12,800 mesocrystals 2122 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,800 on the other hand the higher ph would 2123 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,560 have low nucleation 2124 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,120 okay and that allow for more growth 2125 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,239 larger particles 2126 01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:22,000 and then that would aggregate into 2127 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,600 larger mesocrystals 2128 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,440 and i wanted to i wanted to prove that 2129 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:30,800 at ph 3.8 you know i had some faster 2130 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,320 growth is what i wanted to show and then 2131 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:33,840 at 4.4 i had 2132 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,960 slower growth so what i did is i took a 2133 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:37,600 uv 2134 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,159 vis spectrum of the material so these 2135 01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:41,760 are actually four different ph's but i 2136 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,440 only showed two on here 2137 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:47,120 uh and it shows the peak at 700 2138 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,520 nanometers 700 nanometers is the main 2139 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,679 absorption peak of prussian blue and so 2140 01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:54,239 700 nanometers is like a red 2141 01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:55,920 right so it's kind of almost infrared 2142 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,760 yeah and um 2143 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,840 so if you're absorbing red that means 2144 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,600 you transmit all the other colors and it 2145 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,040 ends up being blue that's why prussian 2146 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,320 blue is blue 2147 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,239 but what i did is i took my my material 2148 01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:12,000 and i put it into a cuvette and uh 2149 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,320 i added the two components together and 2150 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:15,360 started the test 2151 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,800 right away as it was reacting and then 2152 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,040 every five seconds or so i think it was 2153 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,239 either five or ten seconds 2154 01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:24,320 10 seconds every 10 seconds i would take 2155 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,000 a scan 2156 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,560 or a measurement just at 700 nanometers 2157 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:29,840 of the intensity 2158 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,640 of the solution because as this material 2159 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,920 precipitates 2160 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,040 it's going to uh absorb more light 2161 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,400 or it's going to absorb blue light or 2162 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:39,600 excuse me it's going to absorb the red 2163 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,920 light at 700 nanometers 2164 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,280 so here we see a ph 3.8 as soon as i add 2165 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:46,640 the two solutions together 2166 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,480 you know it becomes saturated very 2167 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:49,920 quickly 2168 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,520 so that means that the the the 2169 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,679 nucleation growth is very quick 2170 01:12:53,679 --> 01:12:56,800 but at lower higher ph it's much more 2171 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,800 gradual which means that the growth of 2172 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,480 the particles and nucleation is much 2173 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:01,280 more slow 2174 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,520 and that makes sense because at higher 2175 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,520 ph the chelation strength of this 2176 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,239 chelate is higher so it's it's more it's 2177 01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:08,960 inhibiting 2178 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,360 the nucleation of this reaction so it 2179 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,159 slows it down 2180 01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:15,840 and that's why you get larger growth 2181 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,920 okay so moving on to electrochemical 2182 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:18,960 properties 2183 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,239 um so here is uh 2184 01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:24,480 the the capacity the discharge and 2185 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:25,760 charge capacity 2186 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,560 uh for many cycles and then also i 2187 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,120 increase 2188 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,600 the current rate after every 10 cycles 2189 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,840 so remember this is galvanostatic 2190 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,199 cycling so this is like the 2191 01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:37,840 the profile of each one of these dots is 2192 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:38,560 like this and 2193 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,880 this is actually the last dot of each of 2194 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,360 each series is this profile 2195 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,679 so if you just look at one curve this is 2196 01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:47,440 the discharge curve you start at high 2197 01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:49,440 voltage after charging 2198 01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:52,560 you're discharging at a constant rate 2199 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,719 so the first section is only 100 2200 01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:56,480 milliamps per gram 2201 01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:58,080 right and you measure the voltage as it 2202 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,000 discharges and like i said there's two 2203 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,320 different iron species in this material 2204 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,080 and that represent two different redox 2205 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,320 reactions so here's one redox reaction 2206 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,600 is a higher voltage 2207 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,320 corresponds to low spin iron and then a 2208 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,320 lower redox potential corresponding the 2209 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,280 high spin iron 2210 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,280 and then the other the other chart the 2211 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:16,560 other plot 2212 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,760 line is just the the charge profile of 2213 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:20,159 the 2214 01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:23,360 the same material okay and 2215 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,719 um i said before you know as we increase 2216 01:14:26,719 --> 01:14:29,760 the current of the battery 2217 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,719 as we're drawing more current uh things 2218 01:14:32,719 --> 01:14:33,199 become 2219 01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:36,560 there's at there's the capacity 2220 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,280 decreases 2221 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,440 and the voltage decreases i remember i 2222 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:41,440 said you know i was kind of relating it 2223 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:43,199 to v equals ir 2224 01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:45,360 that there's these resistances inside 2225 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,320 the battery 2226 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,239 such as diffusion resistance or 2227 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:49,840 electrical resistance 2228 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,400 and as we increase the current you know 2229 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:53,920 resistance more or less stays the same 2230 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:54,719 but as we increase 2231 01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:57,199 current that means the voltage in this 2232 01:14:57,199 --> 01:14:58,080 case voltage 2233 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,120 drop increases so that's why 2234 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,960 you see this voltage as we increase 2235 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,040 current rate the voltage drops 2236 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,360 okay 2237 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,120 so if we just one one idea 2238 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,800 i mean obviously you'll see that the 2239 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,280 capacity of the smaller particles 2240 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,440 is larger than the capacity of the 2241 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:20,800 larger particles 2242 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,239 okay and now 2243 01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:26,320 i've said this before in a previous 2244 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,320 lecture you know it's always 2245 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,440 better to make nano materials okay 2246 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:33,679 if you make something nano it means the 2247 01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:35,840 diffusion distance of lithium ions or 2248 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,600 sodium ions in solution 2249 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,080 into the materials shorter all right it 2250 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,520 doesn't have to travel as far 2251 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,480 and that results in less resistance for 2252 01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:45,600 diffusion 2253 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,760 uh during discharge okay and that would 2254 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,080 result in higher capacity as well 2255 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,800 so you know right away you look at this 2256 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,239 and you look at the different 2257 01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:56,159 materials and you say well you know this 2258 01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,080 has higher capacity because these are 2259 01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:58,719 smaller 2260 01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:00,960 smaller smaller particles it makes sense 2261 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,000 right 2262 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,280 and so if that was the case 2263 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,120 if if capacity was kinetically limited 2264 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,480 by the diffusion of ions and due to the 2265 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,159 particle size 2266 01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:16,480 you would expect to see as we increase 2267 01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:17,920 the current rate 2268 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,600 that the cur the capacity retention 2269 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,239 of larger particles would decrease even 2270 01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:24,719 more 2271 01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:26,640 but if you compare the initial 2272 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,239 capacities at slow rate 2273 01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:31,360 to the capacities at high rate between 2274 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,040 the small particles and the large 2275 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,800 particles so the ratio of this number to 2276 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,080 this number basically 2277 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,080 they're they're pretty much the same all 2278 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,520 right which would show 2279 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,320 which would indicate that kinetics did 2280 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,679 not play a 2281 01:16:43,679 --> 01:16:47,360 major role in this material as far as 2282 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,600 the capacities go 2283 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,000 however if you investigate it a little 2284 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,520 bit more in detail 2285 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,640 but in these charts here i separate 2286 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,760 an estimated capacity contribution 2287 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,120 you know for each one of these lines 2288 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,880 just the the discharge ignoring the 2289 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,800 charge 2290 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,960 of the low spin iron which is this 2291 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,560 higher voltage 2292 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,239 uh plateau here versus the high spin 2293 01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:14,159 iron which is the lower voltage plateau 2294 01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:15,840 here and so the red 2295 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,520 is the low spin iron capacity 2296 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,440 contribution you see it's this is a bit 2297 01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:21,280 smaller than this line here 2298 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,440 and the black is the high spin and if 2299 01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:24,719 you compare the two 2300 01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:27,679 uh particle sizes together you'll see 2301 01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:28,560 that 2302 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,360 as you increase the current the capacity 2303 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,560 contribution of the 2304 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,040 high spin iron is is more or less 2305 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,640 constant 2306 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,800 okay and the same for the larger 2307 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,800 particles it's more or less constant 2308 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,960 which would indicate that the redox 2309 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,520 mechanism related to the high spin 2310 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,640 iron is not dependent or 2311 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,159 largely dependent everything is 2312 01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:51,920 dependent but it's not largely 2313 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,880 dominated by kinetics of the reaction 2314 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:55,440 all right 2315 01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:57,760 it's a we're able to supply electrons 2316 01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,199 and we're able to supply it 2317 01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,440 ions through fast diffusion uh 2318 01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:03,120 effectively 2319 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,360 okay there's no big decrease in that 2320 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,280 that level but if you look at the low 2321 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,080 spin 2322 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,760 capacity contribution that's where you 2323 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,199 see a decrease 2324 01:18:11,199 --> 01:18:13,199 all right which is is kind of unusual 2325 01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:15,199 because you have one material 2326 01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:18,239 and there's a difference in uh 2327 01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:20,960 redox mechanism between the you know 2328 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:21,920 this plateau and 2329 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,960 the second plateau which is uh a bit 2330 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,000 interesting in my 2331 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,640 opinion and i don't have i i don't have 2332 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:29,840 an explanation 2333 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,440 for why this redox mechanism of low spin 2334 01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:34,159 is different 2335 01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:38,400 other than that perhaps um 2336 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,320 it's not what we think it is so we 2337 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,320 always think you know we add sodium ions 2338 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,679 in and we're reducing iron 2339 01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:45,520 three plus to iron two plus and it was 2340 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,520 the same for the both but perhaps that's 2341 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,280 not the case for this uh 2342 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,960 higher voltage case so i'm looking into 2343 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:53,520 this 2344 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,120 when i get back to lab this is the next 2345 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,800 thing i'm going to look at is 2346 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,440 investigate this redox potential at 2347 01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:01,440 different rates of different materials 2348 01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:04,000 and i speculate that actually the water 2349 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,040 content 2350 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,800 might have something to do with it 2351 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,880 actually because if you if you compare a 2352 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,320 non-aqueous 2353 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,400 prussian blue to aqueous prussian blue 2354 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,360 battery you 2355 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,239 always see that this plateau is much 2356 01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:16,880 higher 2357 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,800 in the aqueous state than the 2358 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,960 non-nyquist so it makes me think that 2359 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,040 water plays a large role in the redox 2360 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,159 reaction of this 2361 01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:26,719 material even in this non-aqueous 2362 01:19:26,719 --> 01:19:28,320 battery because i still have water 2363 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,280 inside my material 2364 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,159 so anyways so the point is uh 2365 01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:39,280 is that well there's still a lot to 2366 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:40,000 learn 2367 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,320 and i think once i figure this out i can 2368 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:43,120 publish that 2369 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,120 next paper and i can get out of this 2370 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,440 university and then 2371 01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:51,040 move on to the next big thing 2372 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,280 i'm going to end it here it's been about 2373 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,440 an hour and a half 2374 01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:05,040 any questions before we we leave 2375 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:10,400 well thanks for uh sticking with me 2376 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,560 um i believe on friday 2377 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,239 you have um a journal review 2378 01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:21,679 uh due excuse me a literature literature 2379 01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:22,239 summary 2380 01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:25,760 is due on friday uh so remember 2381 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,760 for your your review paper you need to 2382 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,080 have at least 10 2383 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,800 literature sources since uh 2019 2384 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,520 but there's only five literature uh 2385 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:38,560 summaries 2386 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,960 summary assignments so if you want to be 2387 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,360 proactive you can actually make two 2388 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,400 summaries each assignment 2389 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,800 but you're only you only need to submit 2390 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,400 one to get full credit and it 2391 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,120 is for credit so please write out uh a 2392 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,199 summary i'm going to try to 2393 01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:57,199 write a summary example tonight and send 2394 01:20:57,199 --> 01:20:58,880 it to you guys just show you what you 2395 01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,280 know 2396 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,199 what i'm kind of expecting but basically 2397 01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:02,800 the more the more you do 2398 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,480 the easier it's going to be for when you 2399 01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:08,560 want to compile your your review paper 2400 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,800 okay yeah 2401 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,960 and then tuesday will be the first day 2402 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:15,920 of lab 2403 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,760 so we'll meet here again at the same 2404 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,120 time uh 2405 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,840 in that day the ta will lead most of the 2406 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:22,560 lecture 2407 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,120 and i'll be here in support um so we'll 2408 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:26,159 go through 2409 01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:27,840 some discussion questions there's no 2410 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,840 pre-lab so you don't need to prepare 2411 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:30,880 anything 2412 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,960 but uh you know just just be ready to 2413 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,239 learn i guess 2414 01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:36,239 be let ready to learn and be sure you 2415 01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:38,719 you can take notes during the lecture 2416 01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:41,440 uh so that at by the end of the lecture 2417 01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:42,320 you can submit 2418 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,600 a summary of of our lab lab 2419 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,280 lecture so the ta will discuss uh some 2420 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,679 some background and discussion questions 2421 01:21:51,679 --> 01:21:52,960 of the topic 2422 01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,360 then we will have a video of the 2423 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,560 experiment 2424 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,679 that tatiana has uh has 2425 01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:02,790 been busy putting together these videos 2426 01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:05,040 [Music] 2427 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,080 and now there's an issue with 2428 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,000 streaming the video i tried streaming 2429 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,120 videos on 2430 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,159 zoom and it doesn't really work because 2431 01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:16,400 there's like a lag so i think what we're 2432 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:17,679 going to have to do is 2433 01:22:17,679 --> 01:22:19,360 once we get to that point you know we're 2434 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,199 going to say okay take 20 minutes to 2435 01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:22,639 watch the video and they'll 2436 01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:24,480 regroup and you watch it on your own and 2437 01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:25,600 then we'll regroup and then we'll have 2438 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:26,880 discussion questions 2439 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,440 and then the ta has data you'll be given 2440 01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:30,159 the data 2441 01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:32,239 and the ta will go over a data set on 2442 01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:35,040 how to like plot or analyze the data 2443 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,679 and you guys do that together so it'll 2444 01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:39,360 be it'll be interesting how it goes 2445 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,280 i'm quite curious myself it'll be the 2446 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,360 first time okay any questions and 2447 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,120 if not we'll uh you guys can get out of 2448 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,840 here 2449 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,560 okay well i'll see you guys uh next week 2450 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,480 have a good weekend everyone 2451 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:03,600 try to get some sunlight but you know 2452 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,159 stay away from other people but try to 2453 01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:07,040 get outdoors 2454 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:21,840 do some exercise yeah 2455 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,000 you 161613

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