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♪ On the street where you live
girls talk about their social lives ♪
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♪ They're made of lipstick,
plastic, and paint ♪
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♪ A touch of sable in their eyes ♪
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♪ All your life all you've asked ♪
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♪ When's your daddy gonna talk to you ♪
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♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪
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Welcome. I will now announce--
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He's one of those fortunate guys
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who is so full of himself
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and he's got loads of self-confidence
that nothing will hold him back.
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He's got his debut album out,
it's selling extremely well.
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- A very big warm welcome to you, Jon.
- Thank you.
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Nice to see you.
How old are you, Jon?
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- I'm 22.
- Right age.
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Okay, so you grew up in New Jersey.
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Had you always been into rock music?
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Oh, yeah, sure. I think since, uh,
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you know, I've always said I was born
with sunglasses and a guitar.
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You know, I mean, I've been playing
since I can remember.
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What were your parents' reactions
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when you decided you were gonna go
into rock and roll music?
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They probably thought we were crazy,
you know, wondering like,
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"Why don't you get a real job,
make some money."
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This is our high-tech setup.
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I've spent the last week or 10 days
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going through archiving
a lot of cassettes.
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Here's what we found.
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All this was in boxes.
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I wanted to do it
because of the 40th,
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but if I was 100% healthy,
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I probably wouldn't be paying
as close attention.
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Here's Blaze of Glory,
the writing session.
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So here's Runaway
before there was a band.
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This has a song that I was writing
for the Tom Cruise movie,
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Days of Thunder,
and I wrote on it, "not good."
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It's validated for me
the, uh, body of work is legit,
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but more importantly, it got better.
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This is cool because it's the first time
we ever played there.
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That's us walking to the stage.
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[♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" by Bon Jovi
plays on video]
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Kid's a little excited.
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The first time we played Giants Stadium,
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you know, it was as big as it got.
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[♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me"
continues playing]
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♪ They say that to be able
to free your body ♪
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♪ You gotta free your mind ♪
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♪ So come on ♪
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♪ Check this out ♪
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One of
the hottest tickets around tonight
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was to see
the world's hottest rock group.
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Bon Jovi records have been selling
by the millions,
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and his concerts have been selling out.
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♪ If you're ready,
I'm willing and able ♪
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Bon Jovi has been riding high
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since their album Slippery When Wet
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sold 14 million copies around the world.
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♪ For the taking ♪
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♪ The rules we've made
are meant for breaking ♪
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♪ What you get
ain't always what you see ♪
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♪ But satisfaction is guaranteed ♪
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You're knocking down
records that've been there for years.
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Does that frighten you?
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Nobody really knew
that it could get this big.
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♪ If you want me
to lay my hands on you ♪
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What does it feel like
to know that Bon Jovi
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probably is at the moment
the number one rock act in America?
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We're not, uh,
satisfied and we're not done.
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We're just hitting stride.
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It don't get no better
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than this!
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One, two, three, four!
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It's going great.
Kids are rocking, we're rocking.
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I mean,
you really are earning your reputation
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as the hardest-working band,
aren't you?
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- Absolutely.
- ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪
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♪ Lay your hands on me ♪
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♪ Lay your hands on me ♪
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♪ Lay your hands on me ♪
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If you're healthy, it's the greatest thing
in the whole world.
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You know, when you can hit the high notes,
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there's not a higher feeling in the world,
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you know,
there's nothing better than that.
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We are in day one
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of what will ultimately culminate
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in the 40th anniversary of the band.
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Technically, it's year 39 and a half.
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We're about to start rehearsals
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in a place that I dreamt of playing
when I was a kid.
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That's where
we're having pre-production.
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That's the Meadowlands Arena.
It's not used anymore.
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We've just taken it over
for the next three weeks to rehearse.
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Go out, do some dates,
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take the rest of this year
to figure out what the 40th is,
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and then go out
and celebrate that journey.
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Oh, hello, Snooky.
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- How are you, then?
- Good.
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- I know, I love this stuff.
- That's the stuff.
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- I know.
- It's the, the vocal magic.
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Obie!
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It is good to see you before you turn
the 6, the big 6-0
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and everything
just totally turns to rat shit.
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You look good for 40, though.
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I know. How are you feeling?
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I feel great.
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How could this be the place
where time stood still?
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Why wouldn't you play here?
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I don't know.
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I would play here in a minute.
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- It's a good venue.
- I love this place.
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It's always been so good
'cause they're on top of you.
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When I was a young guy,
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right around the time
where we were just starting out,
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and, you know, you always think someday.
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And then I remember going
to shows at the Meadowlands
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and then I remember meeting
a very famous agent saying,
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"Someday, you know,
you're gonna be my agent."
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And then saying to that agent,
"Someday, I'm gonna headline here
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and golly gee, we're gonna put on a show."
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You know?
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And then, uh, you know,
how many times then
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of course we went on to play there.
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So it's almost like full circle
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of the success of the band
to go back there.
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I think we should fucking book a week
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and just say "Fuck you"
to everyone else.
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Hey, you call it. We'll-we'll sell it.
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I could sell it, that's for sure.
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We never, in 40 years,
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have done
three weeks rehearsal.
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Maybe we did four days.
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We never did
this kind of rehearsal.
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But in a weird way, we all want that.
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We wanna sit in a room and just,
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no pressure, no... nothing.
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It's like a fuckin' time warp.
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What fucking year is this?
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Floor monitors in the Meadowlands.
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- Ooh, ooh!
- Oh, no.
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Hey, hey. Shh.
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A lot of guys aren't there.
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Big changing of the guard.
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The stalwarts are the band.
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Starting with David Bryan,
my keyboard player, dear friend.
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David's been with me
since we were 16 or 17 years old,
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all throughout the band's career.
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Same with Tico Torres.
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He was a drummer that
I never thought in a million years
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would ever play with me.
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You know, he was the grownup
in the band.
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He's-he's 10 years older than I am.
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Hugh McDonald, the bass player,
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actually played on Runaway
before there was even a band.
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So, you know,
although Hugh wasn't a member
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of the band for the longest time,
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I've known him,
he's played with me a bunch.
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John Shanks, playing guitar,
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is, uh, co-producer of every record
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since Have a Nice Day in 2005.
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Everett Bradley is playing percussion
because truthfully, uh,
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he adds a different dimension
to the band,
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and he was there at a time
when I, I needed him
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to fill out the sound.
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And then Phil X came in
a couple of times
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during the times when, you know,
Richie wasn't up to it.
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And then finally, you know,
he stayed on
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and he's an incredibly talented cat.
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So he fills those shoes fully.
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So that's the band.
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Whoo! Come on.
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I used to run around these things
like a motherfucker.
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So potent, fucker.
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One of the best there ever was.
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Now the champ is tired.
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Unfortunately, the truth is,
is I'm all over the place.
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You know, I have one foot in
and one foot off the ground.
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Some days, I wake up
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and I, and I can't wait to get back
in there and swing.
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And others, I-I regret
that I'm doing this interview
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and that I'm going back on the road.
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To me, the greatest goal
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is that I truly just have joy
in this next run.
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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Tear off your mask, no need to hide ♪
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♪ There's a prescription
that no doctor can prescribe ♪
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I don't need to do this,
I want to do this.
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So, my drive is much different.
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I'm not doing it for success.
I'm not doing it for accolades or money.
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I just wanted to be good at it.
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I wanted to work hard at it.
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♪ Love is a beautiful drug ♪
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The joy is that oneness with the song,
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it's that connection to that place
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that takes you off of the stage.
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- ♪ ...beautiful drug ♪
- ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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If the other side of it were to come back
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and you're too in your head,
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it's an anchor around your neck
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in every word of every song, every night.
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It's sheer torture.
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And I know what that is too,
and I ain't going back.
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♪ The taste, the touch,
the stuff of dreams ♪
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♪ The paradise that's in between ♪
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♪ Honey of another hit ♪
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♪ You'd almost bite through your own lip ♪
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♪ The thorny rose that makes you bleed ♪
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♪ A kind of hurt
that makes you scream ♪
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♪ Love ♪
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♪ Love is a beautiful drug ♪
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And with every decade
comes another life's lesson.
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At 25, all I was thinking about
was fun, success.
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At 30, I got married,
I had looked at success differently.
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By 40, you start to measure,
did you accomplish what you set out to do.
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By 50, you start to think
about a legacy.
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By 60, I think
as the Chinese proverb says,
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it's basically,
"You are the man you were meant to be."
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That's good.
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So at 60, it's like when I look back,
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did I become the man I wanted to be?
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President Kennedy
sitting in the front seat
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being helped out by Secret Service...
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We were born into an era
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where the American dream was
very much alive and well.
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We choose to go
to the moon in this decade...
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We were born when John Kennedy
was elected president.
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Not because they are easy,
but because they are hard.
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When he talked about
sending a man to the moon.
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That's affirmative. Program alarm.
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They would tell you that anything
you wanted to be, you could be.
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Just about the only thing
that can make a 10-year-old sit still
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long enough for you to catch your breath.
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That your parents
were going to be the ones
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to buy their first home in suburbia.
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The isolation of the suburbs,
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70% of the people
in the metropolitan area
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own their own homes.
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It was just a wonderful little mix
of European
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first- and second-generation families
who came over
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and didn't get any farther
than New Jersey.
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New Jersey
is more than meets the eye.
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A place to study, a place to learn,
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a place to prepare for the future.
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And sometimes, New Jersey
is a place to dream.
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It was very much the privilege
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of being born in a certain place,
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at a certain time, looking a certain way.
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And although all of our families
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come from very blue collar working class,
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we also had a leg up
because we didn't want for things.
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Our parents taught us all
a work ethic,
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but then you-you felt like,
we didn't have a care in the world.
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You had a roof over your head
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and shoes on your feet
and food on the table.
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That was all part of the American dream.
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You can do anything
that you wanna do,
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and the whole world's out there, man,
and it's just waiting for you to take it.
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I always say we were like
America's greatest export
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because it shows the American dream.
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It's like five guys from nowhere.
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And if you work hard enough
and you dream big enough, you can make it.
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My dad was a trumpet player.
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He would always have big band like Al Hirt
and Dizzy Gillespie.
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And he taught me trumpet when I was five.
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And, uh, I knew I had no career
'cause I stunk.
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But I love music. I-I just loved
the feeling about it, you know?
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And then at seven,
I started piano lessons,
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I auditioned for piano lessons.
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He was a Julliard graduate, Mr. Hack,
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I remember he had a Hammond organ,
like this one with pedals.
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My first impression,
I said to my dad, I'm like,
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"I don't wanna play
the thing with the feet.
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"It looks too hard.
There's too many things.
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It looks hard enough
with just your hands."
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And then he went to the piano,
he started playing that,
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and he started playing,
like, Brahms and Bach
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and Schubert and Mozart.
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All this beautiful noise and sound
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was coming out of this piece of wood.
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And I went, "Whatever that is,
I need to do that."
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I would've been aware
of music on the periphery.
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We did not have a musical household.
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It wasn't as if my parents
ever sat down and said,
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"Listen to this."
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My mom was a florist,
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and she had
a little gift shop at one point
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and somehow she brought
an acoustic guitar home
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and the Roy Clark learn-at-home
guitar book and record.
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That was my Roy Clark
Big Note Guitar songbook.
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And I was seven, eight years old,
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so I had no desire.
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I remember throwing it
down the basement stairs
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and breaking a tuning pick.
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And hey, you're makin' music.
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But as you hit 12 and 13 years old
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and you're listening to the AM radio
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and the pop songs,
you start liking them,
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and you start singing along a little bit.
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And that's when I found music
in my own way.
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♪ I can hear the ocean's roar ♪
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♪ I don't think so ♪
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That's when a guy named Al Parinello
moved in across the street
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and he was the hipper,
younger version of my parents.
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He played guitar in a lounge band.
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And then I thought to go down
into the basement
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and pick up that guitar
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because he's the one
that had the patience
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to show me a couple of chords.
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And when I was lazy about it,
was also stern enough to say,
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"Stop wasting my time.
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Learn this or get out of my basement."
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But that was exactly
what I needed to hear.
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An instrument is honest.
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If you don't practice, you suck.
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You can't lie to it.
You can't just go, "Hey, I'm great."
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No, you're not great.
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If you put in the hours,
that's the only thing. It's-it's honest.
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You put in the work,
you get back the craft
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and then when you love it,
you keep going forward,
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and then figure out songs
and then, you know, it grows from there.
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And so then I worked hard,
got my first calluses,
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and, uh, one thing led to another.
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And then you understood song structure.
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And when you looked at it
like a little jigsaw puzzle,
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and the verse and the chorus
and the bridge, you went,
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"Oh, it's like that."
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So then around that time,
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my very first band was
in a talent show.
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And, you know, of course we lost.
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It was like right around,
like, my bar mitzvah.
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My father got me
a Farfisa Deluxe Combo organ
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and a Univox piano.
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He would always support my music habit.
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So I had great equipment.
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It's probably a part of me
that needed to be seen
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by not people, by and large,
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but by those who love you the most.
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It wasn't as though I woke up one morning
and was the best singer in the school
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or on the block or in my house.
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That's not saying much,
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but I just had a desire and a work ethic
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that was always the driving force.
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He was just
another kid from Jersey
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living a pretty routine life
on this pretty routine suburban street
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in a house Ward
and June Cleaver would have loved.
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In the town that I grew up in,
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the amount of kids
that went to college were,
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I can't tell you they were even slim.
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They were really slim.
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And I can remember
all the parents were really happy
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about their boys being in a band
and kept 'em off the streets
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and it kept them busy with something.
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But when it was time
for these boys to graduate,
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parents said, "Okay, guys,
it's time to grow up."
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You worked in the factory
or you took up a trade.
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But it was something to be proud of,
working in the trades.
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Uh, my father was a hairdresser,
my grandfather was a plumber.
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These were considerations
for me as a youth,
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simply because that's what we knew.
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My three best friends
joined the service.
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Sir, yes, sir!
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It wasn't for me
because I was already pursuing music.
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And we're coming up
on beautiful Sayreville High School.
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The junior high for two years,
you're supposed to go for three.
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So I left there to go
to a different high school,
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'cause I was failing.
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So, um, I-I-I bolted from that school
and went to Sayreville High School.
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I mean, I remember being
in some kind of high school class
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and the singing teacher saying,
"You haven't got it."
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Or my dad taking me
to a singing lesson once
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and the guy basically saying,
"I don't think so."
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I walked out of both
of them saying, "I think so."
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- Hey, good to see you.
- Hey, bud.
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- Everything alright?
- Yep.
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You know, I have COVID brain fog
like everyone else.
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Was it '18 or '19
when we were out last?
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I, honest to God, would have
to look on a calendar.
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How was your weekend?
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Uh, wonderfully uneventful.
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- How 'bout yourself?
- Oh, that's wonderful.
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Did you get
any singing done or--
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Uh, no, I didn't,
but that's alright.
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- Awesome. Awesome.
- I have been very ready
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and raring to go today.
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Excellent.
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Mm-hmm.
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I like how you took a
couple minutes to do your look behinds,
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we're pressing up into the molars.
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And then on either side
of the soft-- hard palate.
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I'm gonna guess it was the fall of '19.
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We were in South America.
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But I do remember
at that time saying to myself,
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"Maybe it's time to walk away.
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Maybe it's time to cool it."
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And it's the idea of wanting
to achieve excellence
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but also knowing the price
that you pay to do that,
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physically, mentally, emotionally.
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Coming to terms with who I am now
versus who I once was.
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As I got older and the drive
to maintain that being
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on the stage, you know,
it takes more and more.
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You're working that one.
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No, yeah, it's good.
Good, good, good, good, good.
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00:21:01,553 --> 00:21:04,139
For the New Jersey tour,
I started to take,
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00:21:04,139 --> 00:21:05,432
you know, vocal lessons,
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00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:07,809
and I just got better and better
and better as a singer.
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00:21:09,102 --> 00:21:13,398
You know, 2008, '10, '13, I was great.
I was really enjoying it.
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00:21:15,025 --> 00:21:17,194
- Hmm, I don't like where it's going.
- You got it.
406
00:21:17,194 --> 00:21:19,571
- I got it, though.
- No, take your time with it.
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00:21:19,571 --> 00:21:21,240
Take your time with it,
it takes a minute.
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Good, rest for a second.
Reset your body.
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- Yeah.
- Let's do that again.
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00:21:31,458 --> 00:21:35,337
But after '13 is when
the problems really started.
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Just wasn't up to what I wanted it to be.
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And so, you know,
the last couple years,
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I've just tried so many different things
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00:21:43,804 --> 00:21:46,849
to get back to what I liked 10 years ago.
415
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And at 50, things change.
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00:21:52,354 --> 00:21:54,773
And at 60 it's like, "Holy fuck."
417
00:21:59,069 --> 00:22:00,529
Is it tiring? No.
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00:22:00,529 --> 00:22:01,697
But it's like a workout.
419
00:22:01,697 --> 00:22:05,576
You know, you feel like
you did your... time
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and on a Monday morning, it's usually got
a little bit of spider webs.
421
00:22:11,582 --> 00:22:16,879
This, uh, four-headed laser
is aimed here at my cords
422
00:22:17,796 --> 00:22:19,673
and the vagal nerves.
423
00:22:20,132 --> 00:22:24,553
And what it does is
it stimulates blood flow,
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00:22:25,137 --> 00:22:28,348
trying to alleviate as much inflammation
any way we can.
425
00:22:29,558 --> 00:22:31,643
There's three different vocal coaches,
426
00:22:32,603 --> 00:22:34,563
there's a couple different lasers,
427
00:22:35,147 --> 00:22:37,065
there's a boatload of vitamins.
428
00:22:37,774 --> 00:22:41,320
If I can't be the very best
I can be, I'm out.
429
00:22:42,946 --> 00:22:44,531
I'm not here to drag down the legacy.
430
00:22:44,531 --> 00:22:46,450
I am not here for
the "Where Are They Now" tour,
431
00:22:46,450 --> 00:22:48,410
I'm not ever gonna be the fat Elvis,
432
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ain't happening.
433
00:22:51,455 --> 00:22:53,749
But it took voodoo and science
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00:22:53,749 --> 00:22:57,085
and a lot of hard work
435
00:22:57,085 --> 00:23:00,297
to get it to where I-I figure
I can do this.
436
00:23:03,884 --> 00:23:07,221
It's got little cracks
just from leaving it out.
437
00:23:09,139 --> 00:23:10,682
Alright, what else you wanna do?
438
00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:19,149
It's the late '70s.
439
00:23:19,149 --> 00:23:22,319
On my bedroom walls were the '70s icons,
440
00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:24,821
Led Zeppelin standing
in front of that 747...
441
00:23:25,989 --> 00:23:30,244
...Rolling Stones, Kiss,
Lynyrd Skynyrd.
442
00:23:32,704 --> 00:23:33,872
That was impossible.
443
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♪ Comin' home to you ♪
444
00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:40,504
But 25 minutes south
of Sayreville, New Jersey
445
00:23:40,504 --> 00:23:42,589
was this place that was making music.
446
00:23:42,589 --> 00:23:44,883
Southside Johnny
and the Asbury Jukes.
447
00:23:44,883 --> 00:23:47,261
Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes.
448
00:23:47,928 --> 00:23:49,847
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band.
449
00:23:50,764 --> 00:23:54,393
The songs that they wrote
were from the places in which we came.
450
00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:58,146
The Stone Pony, a landmark in Asbury Park
451
00:23:58,146 --> 00:24:01,275
and the spawning ground
for some of the greatest rock and roll.
452
00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:03,235
Southside Johnny and the Jukes.
453
00:24:04,903 --> 00:24:08,031
It's like a disease, you know,
it, uh, never leaves you.
454
00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:12,244
A sexually transmitted disease,
being from New Jersey.
455
00:24:12,244 --> 00:24:16,331
All across the East Coast
an-and in Asbury Park is an amazing event.
456
00:24:16,331 --> 00:24:18,542
Well, Asbury Park was
the happening place
457
00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:21,086
because there were
a lot of bars with bands.
458
00:24:21,461 --> 00:24:23,422
So when we started playing,
459
00:24:23,422 --> 00:24:27,176
there was a bunch of clubs
that we could get into.
460
00:24:28,177 --> 00:24:30,554
So it was a chance
for all of us to go and jam
461
00:24:30,554 --> 00:24:33,390
and hone our skills and perform
in front of an audience.
462
00:24:33,390 --> 00:24:36,226
And it was really a formative time,
463
00:24:36,226 --> 00:24:38,604
Bruce, Steve Van Zandt, Garry Tallent.
464
00:24:39,771 --> 00:24:41,982
And we just really wanted
to find our own voices.
465
00:24:41,982 --> 00:24:44,568
[♪ "Love On The Wrong Side Of Town"
by Bruce Springsteen playing]
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00:24:45,402 --> 00:24:47,279
♪ When I needed you by my side ♪
467
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,323
This concert was as hot
as those hot dogs next door.
468
00:24:49,323 --> 00:24:51,325
It's hysteria, it's excitement.
469
00:24:51,325 --> 00:24:52,534
As I got a little older
470
00:24:52,534 --> 00:24:56,580
and with older friends able
to go down to Asbury Park,
471
00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:58,707
there wasn't any chance
472
00:24:58,707 --> 00:25:01,293
that you wouldn't run
into at least one of them
473
00:25:01,293 --> 00:25:03,253
on any given night.
474
00:25:03,253 --> 00:25:05,672
- All we wanna know...
- Yeah?
475
00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:07,883
...is what are you people doing
in my town?
476
00:25:07,883 --> 00:25:09,343
- Right on!
477
00:25:09,343 --> 00:25:11,678
Steve Van Zandt and I
saw Sam and Dave one time,
478
00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:13,347
and we thought,
"That's what we want to do."
479
00:25:13,764 --> 00:25:17,643
And I thought, "My God,
what an incredible thing to do
480
00:25:17,643 --> 00:25:20,270
to have all these people
in the palm of your hand."
481
00:25:20,771 --> 00:25:23,273
For me, that was the kind
of music that was alive.
482
00:25:23,273 --> 00:25:25,984
[♪ playing "This Time It's For Real" by
Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes]
483
00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:28,445
♪ Baby, don't slow me down ♪
484
00:25:28,445 --> 00:25:31,949
♪ I've come too far
to ever turn around ♪
485
00:25:31,949 --> 00:25:36,161
I think that we all learned
from The Animals
486
00:25:36,161 --> 00:25:38,539
and the Rolling Stones
and Paul Butterfield Blues Band
487
00:25:38,539 --> 00:25:41,291
that white people could play Black music,
488
00:25:41,792 --> 00:25:45,087
along with rock and roll,
Jerry Lee Lewis and that kind of stuff.
489
00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:49,633
And I guess we started to influence people
by doing what we wanted to do.
490
00:25:49,633 --> 00:25:52,886
And they thought, "Well, if these guys
can do it, I can do it too."
491
00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:57,140
I was 16,
and the drinking age was 18,
492
00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:59,393
which is really integral to this story,
493
00:25:59,393 --> 00:26:03,146
is at 16 you could sneak in
pretending to be 18
494
00:26:03,146 --> 00:26:07,568
and seeing any one of those
10 members of The Asbury Jukes,
495
00:26:07,568 --> 00:26:09,778
seven members of the E Street Band...
496
00:26:11,655 --> 00:26:14,825
...it made the impossible right there.
497
00:26:14,825 --> 00:26:17,077
One of the things
that, uh, critics have been saying
498
00:26:17,077 --> 00:26:18,745
about rock and roll in the '70s
499
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:20,414
is that there's been
very little substance.
500
00:26:20,414 --> 00:26:22,916
Well, ladies and gentlemen,
I'm here to tell you Bruce Springsteen
501
00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:25,210
and the E Street Band are substance.
502
00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:28,046
No one wanted to be associated
with New Jersey.
503
00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:30,966
I mean, even when I went
to make my first record,
504
00:26:30,966 --> 00:26:33,552
they wanted me to say I was
a New York-based artist.
505
00:26:33,552 --> 00:26:37,389
[♪ "The Promised Land" by
Bruce Springsteen and E Street Band plays]
506
00:26:41,101 --> 00:26:44,771
♪ On a rattlesnake speedway
in the Utah desert ♪
507
00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:47,941
♪ I pick up my money
and head back into town ♪
508
00:26:47,941 --> 00:26:50,903
It was unusual at the time
509
00:26:50,903 --> 00:26:54,740
for an artist to identify himself
with New Jersey
510
00:26:55,157 --> 00:26:57,534
and all of its glories, you know?
511
00:26:58,452 --> 00:27:01,163
I just sort of embraced it
as my identity,
512
00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:03,999
the Boardwalk and Asbury Park
513
00:27:03,999 --> 00:27:06,585
and all the street people from the city.
514
00:27:06,585 --> 00:27:09,755
And I said, "Yeah, these are the people
I want to write about,
515
00:27:09,755 --> 00:27:12,591
and this is who I want
to be and who I am."
516
00:27:13,425 --> 00:27:17,554
Now you could touch the dream,
'cause there it was.
517
00:27:17,554 --> 00:27:20,098
It wasn't those pictures
on my wall that you think
518
00:27:20,724 --> 00:27:24,144
I aspire to be,
you know, Led Zeppelin.
519
00:27:24,144 --> 00:27:26,063
It was way too big for me to fathom.
520
00:27:26,647 --> 00:27:27,981
Let's go!
521
00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:31,151
But those guys,
522
00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:35,531
who were singing about the highway
that was out our window,
523
00:27:35,948 --> 00:27:38,408
that made it incredibly possible.
524
00:27:38,408 --> 00:27:42,204
♪ And I believe in a promised land ♪
525
00:27:45,499 --> 00:27:48,919
By the time I was 17,
526
00:27:49,461 --> 00:27:52,798
I was sneaking into those bars
and, and performing
527
00:27:53,674 --> 00:27:56,760
with the Atlantic City Expressway,
my first real band.
528
00:27:59,346 --> 00:28:01,181
The bass player's name was Steve Pretti.
529
00:28:01,181 --> 00:28:03,559
He was one of the three guys
that joined the Navy.
530
00:28:04,601 --> 00:28:07,479
The guy I went to high school with,
by the name of Willie Hercek,
531
00:28:07,479 --> 00:28:11,650
he was really into the whole Asbury sound
and taught me a lot about it.
532
00:28:11,650 --> 00:28:14,736
And he was in the Expressway,
right at the inception.
533
00:28:14,736 --> 00:28:19,783
His father owned a bar in Perth Amboy,
534
00:28:20,534 --> 00:28:23,537
and Willie told me about David.
535
00:28:24,329 --> 00:28:27,207
David's father owned
a surgical supply store
536
00:28:27,207 --> 00:28:29,918
in Perth Amboy and had a van.
537
00:28:29,918 --> 00:28:32,921
I got the gig just because
of the equipment, and I had a van.
538
00:28:33,422 --> 00:28:35,632
He had a Hammond organ in the van.
He's in the band.
539
00:28:35,632 --> 00:28:38,385
I don't care what he looks like
or what he plays, he's in.
540
00:28:38,385 --> 00:28:40,846
And that's when I had
a big Hammond organ like this,
541
00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:42,514
a big Hammond, and I had this piano,
542
00:28:42,514 --> 00:28:44,141
I had all this equipment by then.
543
00:28:44,141 --> 00:28:45,601
He could play.
544
00:28:45,601 --> 00:28:49,271
He was, he was the kid
who took lessons for real.
545
00:28:49,271 --> 00:28:51,940
He was a far better musician than I was.
546
00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:53,483
I'm like, "Great, where does he live?"
547
00:28:53,483 --> 00:28:54,902
I'm like, "Sayreville."
I'm like, "Okay."
548
00:28:54,902 --> 00:28:56,320
It's right across the bridge.
549
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,779
They did a cover band.
550
00:28:57,779 --> 00:29:00,490
They were like Springsteen
and Jukes and a couple originals.
551
00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:04,244
And at the time I knew Born to Run
and We're Having a Party.
552
00:29:04,244 --> 00:29:08,999
And so Dave fit, you know,
we carried that son of a gun B three
553
00:29:08,999 --> 00:29:11,376
down into the bass player's mother's house
and set it up.
554
00:29:11,376 --> 00:29:15,714
And between that and the horns
and the two loud electric guitars...
555
00:29:16,757 --> 00:29:17,799
it was the sound of a band.
556
00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:24,598
I wasn't into that kind
of blue-eyed soul and soul music.
557
00:29:24,598 --> 00:29:26,517
And, uh, it just won my heart over.
558
00:29:26,517 --> 00:29:28,769
I was like, "Wow, five horns,
everybody's loud.
559
00:29:28,769 --> 00:29:31,230
There's like 10 people making music."
560
00:29:37,402 --> 00:29:40,030
It was the closest to God-like
I think you could ever get.
561
00:29:40,030 --> 00:29:41,615
I was like, "I need to do this."
562
00:29:42,908 --> 00:29:44,701
♪ I know it's been a long time ♪
563
00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:47,621
The Expressways
now playing high school dances
564
00:29:47,621 --> 00:29:51,166
and a bar emulating Southside Johnny.
565
00:29:52,209 --> 00:29:54,253
And fortunately, back in Asbury Park,
566
00:29:54,253 --> 00:29:56,713
in the late '70s and early '80s,
567
00:29:57,047 --> 00:29:59,007
there was a place called The Fast Lane.
568
00:29:59,383 --> 00:30:03,053
And that's where David used to do
his high school homework.
569
00:30:03,053 --> 00:30:04,847
And when we did
the first gig, I was like,
570
00:30:04,847 --> 00:30:07,266
"Wow, he's great. This is great.
571
00:30:07,266 --> 00:30:08,433
"The money's not great.
572
00:30:08,809 --> 00:30:10,978
We got, like, 150 bucks
for 10 people."
573
00:30:11,478 --> 00:30:13,647
You had gas,
and you had the bar bill.
574
00:30:13,647 --> 00:30:14,940
So there was no money in it,
575
00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:18,026
and that wasn't what any
of us were motivated by.
576
00:30:18,026 --> 00:30:19,570
We had to pay a buck a beer.
577
00:30:19,570 --> 00:30:22,531
So I think I ended up being
in the hole every night.
578
00:30:22,531 --> 00:30:24,116
But I cheated him out of like 10 bucks
579
00:30:24,116 --> 00:30:26,243
for gas money or something, I was--
Don't tell anybody.
580
00:30:27,995 --> 00:30:31,707
You know, when you're
that young and naive,
581
00:30:32,416 --> 00:30:34,877
blind faith is enough to get you by.
582
00:30:34,877 --> 00:30:36,461
Alright! Thank you very much.
583
00:30:36,461 --> 00:30:38,130
I'd like to remind you
of the name of the group,
584
00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:39,965
we're the Atlantic City Expressway.
585
00:30:39,965 --> 00:30:41,800
We stole that sign off the highway.
586
00:30:42,885 --> 00:30:44,970
It was him, officer, it was him.
587
00:30:46,263 --> 00:30:47,931
We would play the Fast Lane,
588
00:30:47,931 --> 00:30:49,850
then we would play up
and down the Jersey Shore.
589
00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:51,476
There was a lot of clubs you could play.
590
00:30:51,476 --> 00:30:54,313
And that's when,
you know, we'd go to get the van
591
00:30:54,313 --> 00:30:57,816
to fill it with gear
and drive down to do a show.
592
00:31:00,611 --> 00:31:02,029
I'd get done playing,
593
00:31:02,029 --> 00:31:04,198
I'd get all the equipment
and the horn players,
594
00:31:04,656 --> 00:31:07,117
drive back up to Sayreville,
drop them off,
595
00:31:07,117 --> 00:31:09,119
go over the bridge, go into Perth Amboy,
596
00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:12,706
drop all the shit off
into my father's warehouse,
597
00:31:12,706 --> 00:31:15,042
get my car, get back home
at 5:00 in the morning,
598
00:31:15,042 --> 00:31:16,710
and I have to get up
at 7:00 for high school.
599
00:31:17,002 --> 00:31:20,130
So I was, uh,
just trying to survive.
600
00:31:21,006 --> 00:31:25,177
What was wonderful about my parents
and their support of it was,
601
00:31:25,177 --> 00:31:27,888
they said, "We knew you were in a bar
until 2:00 in the morning,
602
00:31:27,888 --> 00:31:29,932
"but at least we knew where you were.
603
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:32,518
"And if we had seen that you were
604
00:31:32,851 --> 00:31:36,563
"not working at this every day, all day,
605
00:31:36,563 --> 00:31:38,482
"we may have had to step in and say,
606
00:31:38,941 --> 00:31:42,694
"'Wait a minute, son, you have
to go apply for a trade.'"
607
00:31:42,694 --> 00:31:45,405
Saw them at the Fast Lane,
when he was like 17 years old.
608
00:31:45,405 --> 00:31:48,450
And I was very impressed
with his stage presence
609
00:31:48,450 --> 00:31:50,077
and you know, all of that.
610
00:31:50,702 --> 00:31:53,163
He really hadn't found himself yet.
611
00:31:53,163 --> 00:31:55,290
If you want anything in this world,
612
00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:57,417
if you want it bad enough,
613
00:31:58,460 --> 00:31:59,753
anything is possible.
614
00:32:00,295 --> 00:32:02,297
I remember we'd have
to walk to high school.
615
00:32:02,297 --> 00:32:05,843
I was always talking about things like,
"This is our tour jacket."
616
00:32:07,344 --> 00:32:10,597
Not so much, you know,
practicing four days a week,
617
00:32:10,597 --> 00:32:12,558
but we need a photo session
618
00:32:12,558 --> 00:32:16,186
and we need to see Southside somewhere.
619
00:32:16,687 --> 00:32:20,315
So all those great memories
of what was Asbury
620
00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:22,734
and what was, uh, original music
621
00:32:22,734 --> 00:32:26,864
and what was a community
of up-and-coming musicians
622
00:32:26,864 --> 00:32:29,366
as well as those who had
already landed record deals.
623
00:32:29,825 --> 00:32:32,995
The pinnacle of all of this
was a record deal.
624
00:32:33,996 --> 00:32:36,999
Once Bruce got his record contract,
625
00:32:36,999 --> 00:32:38,959
all of a sudden,
we were more respectable.
626
00:32:38,959 --> 00:32:41,920
And then when Born To Run came out,
627
00:32:42,504 --> 00:32:45,382
all of a sudden, everybody wanted to sign
somebody from New Jersey.
628
00:32:46,175 --> 00:32:51,388
In 1979, I was singing a song off of
629
00:32:51,763 --> 00:32:53,724
that album called
Darkness on the Edge of Town.
630
00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:58,812
And I looked up,
and there's Bruce on stage with me.
631
00:33:00,647 --> 00:33:02,858
♪ ...dark cloud rising
from the desert floor ♪
632
00:33:02,858 --> 00:33:07,446
♪ I packed my bags
and I'm heading straight into the storm ♪
633
00:33:07,446 --> 00:33:08,947
That was the guy, you know?
634
00:33:08,947 --> 00:33:11,241
And he jumps up
and sings his song with me.
635
00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:14,036
And I like to play.
I like to play, you know?
636
00:33:14,036 --> 00:33:16,663
♪ Blow away the dreams that tear you... ♪
637
00:33:16,663 --> 00:33:18,248
I think that was what--
638
00:33:18,248 --> 00:33:20,834
well, there's some young kid
around here from New Jersey
639
00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:22,628
who's making some kind of noise, you know?
640
00:33:22,628 --> 00:33:24,880
That was the first thing I knew about Jon.
641
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,550
He is a hardworking guy, you know,
put everything he had into his music.
642
00:33:28,550 --> 00:33:29,635
We did Promised Land.
643
00:33:29,635 --> 00:33:31,929
It was the second verse,
I still have a cassette tape of it.
644
00:33:31,929 --> 00:33:34,264
And it was like, "Oh, my God,
that's Bruce. He's singing with us."
645
00:33:34,264 --> 00:33:38,393
♪ And I believe in a promised land ♪
646
00:33:38,393 --> 00:33:41,021
So you go to high school
the next day, needless to say,
647
00:33:41,021 --> 00:33:43,232
you look at the teacher and you look
at the kids and you go...
648
00:33:44,942 --> 00:33:46,193
"I got a story to tell."
649
00:33:46,193 --> 00:33:48,445
And it's a lot better than history class.
650
00:33:48,445 --> 00:33:51,615
Bruce and, and anyone else
in that band,
651
00:33:51,615 --> 00:33:53,784
or you know, in that
whole clique down there,
652
00:33:53,784 --> 00:33:58,080
was always very, very,
very supportive of-of myself
653
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,706
and the groups that I played in.
654
00:34:01,291 --> 00:34:05,629
It made me even more
single-mindedly focused
655
00:34:06,171 --> 00:34:08,882
that the impossible was well within reach.
656
00:34:09,633 --> 00:34:12,970
Shortly thereafter,
I stopped playing covers.
657
00:34:13,387 --> 00:34:15,556
I stopped being in, in any band
658
00:34:15,556 --> 00:34:17,933
who was gonna rely on playing
other people's material.
659
00:34:18,350 --> 00:34:21,895
In our senior year, then Jon,
uh, then Jon quit.
660
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,066
By the beginning of 1980,
661
00:34:26,066 --> 00:34:30,445
in my senior year of high school,
I quit my own cover band.
662
00:34:31,321 --> 00:34:33,031
But I said, "I'm out. I have to go.
663
00:34:33,031 --> 00:34:35,617
I gotta go figure this out the right way."
664
00:34:35,993 --> 00:34:38,745
He had a vision to know that
if you're gonna be in a cover band,
665
00:34:38,745 --> 00:34:40,289
you're gonna play somebody else's music.
666
00:34:40,747 --> 00:34:42,207
And if you're an original band,
667
00:34:42,624 --> 00:34:44,501
you're gonna have cover bands
playing your music.
668
00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:46,962
And that's the only road to the future.
669
00:34:46,962 --> 00:34:50,174
I joined someone else's band,
wasn't my vision,
670
00:34:50,174 --> 00:34:52,384
wasn't my band, I was just the singer.
671
00:34:53,051 --> 00:34:54,761
I didn't know enough about songwriting
672
00:34:54,761 --> 00:34:56,847
and I certainly hadn't written
enough songs yet.
673
00:34:57,431 --> 00:35:01,018
So I would rather make no money
and learn the craft
674
00:35:01,018 --> 00:35:03,896
because that was the only way
that there'd be longevity.
675
00:35:03,896 --> 00:35:06,190
Songwriting is the hardest thing to do
676
00:35:06,190 --> 00:35:07,649
and the most satisfying.
677
00:35:07,649 --> 00:35:09,276
When you come up
with something that you go,
678
00:35:09,276 --> 00:35:12,696
"Oh, yeah, that's it.
That's what I was trying to say."
679
00:35:12,696 --> 00:35:14,656
Because you have
to have an idea,
680
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,826
and you have to have thought
about something, hopefully.
681
00:35:17,826 --> 00:35:19,453
And the deeper
you've thought about it,
682
00:35:19,453 --> 00:35:22,456
probably the better your song is
to a certain degree, you know?
683
00:35:22,998 --> 00:35:25,167
So going and joining someone's band
684
00:35:25,709 --> 00:35:28,504
was again, a teachable moment.
685
00:35:28,504 --> 00:35:30,047
A, I didn't know how to do it.
686
00:35:30,047 --> 00:35:32,508
And B, you learn what not to do.
687
00:35:33,008 --> 00:35:37,804
Most importantly,
don't not be a visionary.
688
00:35:38,138 --> 00:35:41,058
There was no way that I could live and die
689
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,310
on someone else's decisions,
690
00:35:43,727 --> 00:35:45,229
and The Rest didn't last very long.
691
00:35:45,896 --> 00:35:49,733
He had that real desire to prove himself,
692
00:35:50,067 --> 00:35:51,944
'cause we had to, you know?
693
00:35:51,944 --> 00:35:54,988
We weren't from New York
or LA or whatever.
694
00:35:55,364 --> 00:35:58,075
He just had that energy, that edge.
695
00:35:58,450 --> 00:36:00,994
He's gonna make it work. He'll find a way.
696
00:36:00,994 --> 00:36:03,580
I like our audiences to come to see us
697
00:36:04,206 --> 00:36:06,416
and to sweat as much
as I sweat on the stage.
698
00:36:06,416 --> 00:36:08,752
You know? Or if I can get them
to sweat half as much as I do,
699
00:36:08,752 --> 00:36:10,254
I know I've had a successful show.
700
00:36:10,254 --> 00:36:13,841
To me, your heart is, is 80%
of the whole thing.
701
00:36:14,216 --> 00:36:15,884
Thank you. Thank you very much.
702
00:36:15,884 --> 00:36:17,469
Good evening, welcome down
to The Fast Lane.
703
00:36:17,469 --> 00:36:19,429
We'll be here tomorrow night
and every Wednesday night.
704
00:36:19,429 --> 00:36:21,807
Come on down, free admission.
Drinks are a buck.
705
00:36:22,140 --> 00:36:23,809
- Come down this weekend.
706
00:36:23,809 --> 00:36:25,561
You know, there's two
different kind of frontmen.
707
00:36:25,561 --> 00:36:27,187
There's the guys
that stand there and just go,
708
00:36:27,187 --> 00:36:28,438
"Here's our next song.
709
00:36:29,439 --> 00:36:31,275
Here's our next song. Thank you."
710
00:36:31,275 --> 00:36:32,693
And there are the guys like him that go,
711
00:36:32,693 --> 00:36:34,278
"Tip your bartenders.
How you doing tonight?
712
00:36:34,278 --> 00:36:36,196
"We're gonna get this together.
Put your hands together.
713
00:36:36,196 --> 00:36:38,198
We're gonna be there.
We're all together. Hands up, clap."
714
00:36:38,198 --> 00:36:40,492
Which was, uh, more of the Jersey school
715
00:36:40,492 --> 00:36:42,661
like, you know, a banter
between you and the audience,
716
00:36:42,661 --> 00:36:44,288
and then make the whole thing one.
717
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,750
From '79, '80, I'm playing
down in Asbury a lot,
718
00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:52,171
starting with The Expressway
into being the singer of The Rest
719
00:36:52,171 --> 00:36:53,839
to now having my own band.
720
00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:55,507
Writing on my own,
721
00:36:55,507 --> 00:36:58,010
Jon Bongiovi and the Wild Ones is born.
722
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,262
It's not easy 'cause there's no money.
723
00:37:00,262 --> 00:37:03,015
There's not even opportunity
when you're playing original stuff.
724
00:37:03,557 --> 00:37:05,642
You know, you're writing
about cars and girls.
725
00:37:05,642 --> 00:37:06,977
What else was there?
726
00:37:06,977 --> 00:37:09,188
Those of you have, um, seen us before,
727
00:37:09,188 --> 00:37:11,481
I'm very anxious to get down
to the new stuff.
728
00:37:11,481 --> 00:37:13,650
- This is something new.
729
00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:16,486
This is by the Wild Ones.
This is for the wild ones.
730
00:37:16,486 --> 00:37:18,655
- Yeah!
- This one's named after the band.
731
00:37:18,655 --> 00:37:20,073
And this one's called The Wild One.
732
00:37:20,073 --> 00:37:22,284
- Yeah!
- And this has gotta be for you.
733
00:37:26,288 --> 00:37:29,124
And at that time,
that's when I was a Wild One
734
00:37:29,124 --> 00:37:32,461
and, um, I graduated high school
and then I was going to Rutgers.
735
00:37:32,461 --> 00:37:35,756
So once again, I found myself
having to go to school again.
736
00:37:37,799 --> 00:37:39,718
David was going to college.
737
00:37:39,718 --> 00:37:42,804
His nice Jewish mother
wanted him to be a doctor.
738
00:37:43,263 --> 00:37:45,933
There was no plan B in my life ever.
739
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,976
It was all or nothing.
740
00:37:47,976 --> 00:37:51,355
- Thank you, thank you.
741
00:37:52,856 --> 00:37:57,736
In September of 1980,
I call a second cousin of mine
742
00:37:57,736 --> 00:38:00,364
who was a recording engineer,
produced the first Talking Heads record,
743
00:38:00,364 --> 00:38:03,367
the first Ramones record,
who had seen The Rest perform.
744
00:38:03,367 --> 00:38:06,203
Had told my dad, "The band stinks,
745
00:38:06,203 --> 00:38:08,163
but the kid's got
something going for him."
746
00:38:08,163 --> 00:38:11,959
Never met the guy, but obviously
curious about my future.
747
00:38:11,959 --> 00:38:14,920
He allowed me to be
a gopher at the Power Station.
748
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,172
I would go run to the bank,
the dry cleaner,
749
00:38:17,172 --> 00:38:21,134
the food pickup, the OTB,
make the horse bets.
750
00:38:21,677 --> 00:38:24,096
Anyone and everyone
would've given their right arm
751
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,139
to work at the Power Station.
752
00:38:27,015 --> 00:38:29,643
And so sometimes you had to bring girls,
sometimes you had to bring drugs,
753
00:38:29,643 --> 00:38:31,937
sometimes you had to do favors,
sometimes you had to do stuff.
754
00:38:32,521 --> 00:38:33,689
And I met Obie there.
755
00:38:34,314 --> 00:38:37,359
He was quite the character,
to say the least.
756
00:38:37,901 --> 00:38:40,487
I was working at the Power Station.
757
00:38:40,487 --> 00:38:44,616
I was doing projects
for Jon's cousin, Tony Bongiovi.
758
00:38:45,367 --> 00:38:47,286
They gave me the opportunity
759
00:38:47,286 --> 00:38:50,080
to-to record on weekends and nights.
760
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,291
So we would go in
at, like, 4:00 in the morning
761
00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:55,794
till 10:00 in the morning
and start doing original songs.
762
00:38:55,794 --> 00:38:57,921
He played songs for me
that he was working on.
763
00:38:58,714 --> 00:39:01,216
And he was so energetic about it.
764
00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:04,303
You know, there are people sometimes
when they walk in the room,
765
00:39:04,303 --> 00:39:05,804
you go,
"That's somebody."
766
00:39:06,513 --> 00:39:11,101
The Power Station was
the epicenter of record making.
767
00:39:11,643 --> 00:39:15,314
I watched through the window
the Rolling Stones.
768
00:39:15,314 --> 00:39:18,358
I saw Queen and Bowie
doing Under Pressure.
769
00:39:18,775 --> 00:39:22,362
To see Kiss, to see Diana Ross.
770
00:39:22,779 --> 00:39:25,365
You know, Stevie Tyler
would let me sit in the studio
771
00:39:25,365 --> 00:39:27,075
one night, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning
772
00:39:27,075 --> 00:39:29,077
and I was the only guy
in there watching him singing.
773
00:39:29,077 --> 00:39:30,537
And that's one
of your idols, you know,
774
00:39:30,537 --> 00:39:32,164
watching Aerosmith working on a record.
775
00:39:32,164 --> 00:39:35,792
He just wasn't the cleanup guy.
He asked questions.
776
00:39:35,792 --> 00:39:37,920
He saw how a console worked.
777
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,546
He saw how the engineers worked.
778
00:39:39,546 --> 00:39:42,257
He saw how producers worked.
He took it all in.
779
00:39:42,549 --> 00:39:44,510
And when he was done working
at the studio all day,
780
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:47,429
he was writing, sleeping, you know,
on the floor.
781
00:39:47,429 --> 00:39:49,598
I had a, I don't know
782
00:39:49,598 --> 00:39:54,061
if I had a vision or I was just
more faithful than everyone else,
783
00:39:54,061 --> 00:39:55,812
but that really played into it.
784
00:39:56,647 --> 00:39:59,149
We're going there, I'm doing this.
785
00:40:00,817 --> 00:40:01,818
Who wants to come?
786
00:40:30,597 --> 00:40:32,641
So the purpose of doing that,
787
00:40:33,267 --> 00:40:35,102
so your tongue doesn't get tight
788
00:40:35,727 --> 00:40:38,856
and then it restricts everything else
789
00:40:38,856 --> 00:40:40,440
that covers the larynx.
790
00:40:41,275 --> 00:40:42,985
It's like if you ran a marathon,
791
00:40:42,985 --> 00:40:45,821
would you... walk it off
792
00:40:45,821 --> 00:40:49,157
or would you lay down and go to bed?
793
00:40:49,157 --> 00:40:50,701
The answer is you'd walk it off.
794
00:40:51,201 --> 00:40:53,620
So if you just take 10 or 15 minutes,
795
00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:56,331
do some cool-down exercises like that,
796
00:40:57,207 --> 00:41:00,085
it makes tomorrow morning
a pleasant experience.
797
00:41:05,632 --> 00:41:08,677
So everybody feels
physically tired, right?
798
00:41:08,677 --> 00:41:10,846
- Yeah, yeah.
799
00:41:10,846 --> 00:41:12,306
- Yeah.
- Yes.
800
00:41:12,723 --> 00:41:13,807
It's okay, man.
801
00:41:14,558 --> 00:41:16,852
You are not alone, my brother.
802
00:41:16,852 --> 00:41:19,479
- Okay.
- I think this is gonna take us a minute...
803
00:41:20,564 --> 00:41:22,399
- Gotta check.
- ...to get back into this.
804
00:41:22,399 --> 00:41:25,485
- Oh, yeah.
- You were standing this whole time.
805
00:41:25,485 --> 00:41:27,863
- Did you sleep last night?
- Like a motherfucker.
806
00:41:27,863 --> 00:41:31,950
I think it's a hunt. I think the hunt
of getting alright is draining.
807
00:41:32,993 --> 00:41:34,369
Day one.
808
00:41:34,369 --> 00:41:35,746
It's also stress.
809
00:41:35,746 --> 00:41:37,748
You know me, I wanna sing.
810
00:41:37,748 --> 00:41:40,501
I wanna sing. I wanna sing.
I just wanna make sure...
811
00:41:40,959 --> 00:41:43,545
- That everybody's tight.
- Yes.
812
00:41:43,545 --> 00:41:45,672
If I'm gonna be tired,
I want to just know that,
813
00:41:45,672 --> 00:41:47,966
you know, I'm not pushing myself
that hard.
814
00:42:01,188 --> 00:42:04,107
Well, in as much as you're aware
815
00:42:04,107 --> 00:42:09,404
that it is what you have been
defined by for so long.
816
00:42:10,113 --> 00:42:11,615
But I'm not gonna get any bigger.
817
00:42:12,491 --> 00:42:17,120
So for me, now it's just
maintaining it at a level
818
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,415
that I'm A, having joy,
819
00:42:20,832 --> 00:42:23,126
and B, I'm good at.
820
00:42:24,378 --> 00:42:28,757
But holy fuck have I worked,
I've never worked so hard.
821
00:42:29,758 --> 00:42:32,302
You know, you realize
how easily it came to you...
822
00:42:33,846 --> 00:42:35,514
and then it changes as you get older.
823
00:42:35,514 --> 00:42:37,599
You gotta work so much harder.
824
00:42:38,892 --> 00:42:41,478
It's not definitive
that I'm gonna do a 40th.
825
00:42:43,856 --> 00:42:47,150
It's all a byproduct of for what?
826
00:42:50,112 --> 00:42:52,614
So this is day 13 of rehearsals,
827
00:42:52,614 --> 00:42:54,449
the last day...
828
00:42:55,742 --> 00:42:56,952
of rehearsing.
829
00:42:58,579 --> 00:42:59,705
It's been great.
830
00:43:01,164 --> 00:43:04,960
We've never rehearsed 13 days
for any tour, ever.
831
00:43:12,676 --> 00:43:14,094
One observation.
832
00:43:15,179 --> 00:43:18,515
This show was absolutely sitting
at about 2:40.
833
00:43:20,434 --> 00:43:21,602
We could cut down.
834
00:43:22,436 --> 00:43:25,439
I could cut down a easy 20 minutes
835
00:43:25,439 --> 00:43:28,192
and still give them
way more than they ever thought.
836
00:43:28,192 --> 00:43:29,568
That's too long, right?
837
00:43:29,568 --> 00:43:31,236
It doesn't have
to be that right now.
838
00:43:31,236 --> 00:43:32,696
It can be, but it doesn't have to be.
839
00:43:33,238 --> 00:43:34,489
It's been a number of years
840
00:43:34,489 --> 00:43:37,034
since I was doing those
three-kind-of-hour shows.
841
00:43:37,034 --> 00:43:40,245
It takes a lot of physical
and vocal strength.
842
00:43:40,579 --> 00:43:42,581
We certainly have the catalog of music.
843
00:43:43,123 --> 00:43:45,417
My aspiration is to get back to that.
844
00:43:48,879 --> 00:43:50,422
I mean, I just turned 60,
845
00:43:50,422 --> 00:43:51,632
Jon and I just turned 60
846
00:43:51,632 --> 00:43:54,968
so we're definitely not young,
but I feel like I'm 18.
847
00:43:54,968 --> 00:43:57,262
You know, it's like eternal.
And then you look on stage
848
00:43:57,262 --> 00:43:59,181
and we all know we have
each other's backs.
849
00:43:59,181 --> 00:44:00,641
We're together. We're a unit.
850
00:44:00,641 --> 00:44:01,725
Good.
851
00:44:01,725 --> 00:44:03,352
You know, you're not up there alone.
852
00:44:04,561 --> 00:44:06,605
One other crazy observation,
853
00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:11,443
we could end the set with Prayer
854
00:44:11,818 --> 00:44:15,030
and have Medicine be just more raucous
855
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:17,324
at the very end of the night.
856
00:44:17,324 --> 00:44:18,951
- You know? Um...
- I'll switch 'em.
857
00:44:25,791 --> 00:44:29,002
It was that, to me was where
I thought there might have been a lull,
858
00:44:29,419 --> 00:44:30,879
but they're both so easy to sing.
859
00:44:32,339 --> 00:44:35,634
And then, the potential
of doing This House, Prayer,
860
00:44:35,634 --> 00:44:37,261
and then Love's the Only Rule,
Medicine,
861
00:44:37,261 --> 00:44:39,513
then they're like,
show-stopping, fun, upbeat,
862
00:44:39,513 --> 00:44:40,848
bit of a boom, boom, you know?
863
00:44:42,474 --> 00:44:44,059
Okay, let's warm up a bit.
864
00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:49,022
That first week,
we started working songs
865
00:44:49,022 --> 00:44:50,899
and working songs,
and everything was tired
866
00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:53,694
'cause it was-- Jon was going
through his challenges
867
00:44:53,694 --> 00:44:56,738
and he had to figure it out for himself.
868
00:44:57,364 --> 00:44:59,700
Second week is a little less exhausting.
869
00:45:00,409 --> 00:45:02,744
Third week was like, "Okay, I'm good."
870
00:45:04,037 --> 00:45:08,375
I don't need adulation.
That's not what fuels me.
871
00:45:08,834 --> 00:45:11,378
It's changed with time, you know,
872
00:45:11,378 --> 00:45:13,088
and a better understanding
of who you are,
873
00:45:13,088 --> 00:45:15,507
why you did things,
and why you continue to do things,
874
00:45:15,507 --> 00:45:18,385
when you get to a level
that is much deeper
875
00:45:18,385 --> 00:45:20,012
than girls and guitars.
876
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:23,223
You know, we're still standing.
877
00:45:23,223 --> 00:45:25,475
We're one of the biggest bands
in the world. It keeps happening.
878
00:45:25,475 --> 00:45:27,853
And I'm fortunate
because that's a blessing to me,
879
00:45:27,853 --> 00:45:30,439
is that you get to keep doing
what you love to do
880
00:45:30,439 --> 00:45:34,276
and you don't have
to either fizzle out or retire.
881
00:45:35,068 --> 00:45:38,739
It's really so joyful to do
what you're made to do and love.
882
00:45:40,824 --> 00:45:45,204
Forty years doing anything
is reason to pause
883
00:45:45,204 --> 00:45:48,415
and to acknowledge and to celebrate,
884
00:45:48,832 --> 00:45:52,628
to look around at those
who helped you along the way.
885
00:45:52,628 --> 00:45:54,671
And there are hundreds of them
886
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:57,966
that all helped tell this story today.
887
00:45:58,592 --> 00:46:01,220
You know, I'm just
the ringleader in that circus.
888
00:46:08,060 --> 00:46:11,605
Rock and roll has not been
a parent's favorite thing since Elvis,
889
00:46:11,605 --> 00:46:13,815
but, uh, remind your parents
that they were kids
890
00:46:13,815 --> 00:46:16,068
when Elvis and The Beatles were, uh, big,
891
00:46:16,068 --> 00:46:17,861
you know, current stars.
892
00:46:17,861 --> 00:46:20,364
When you guys all grow up
and your kids look at you
893
00:46:20,364 --> 00:46:22,699
and they go,
"Who was that Bon Jovi band?
894
00:46:22,699 --> 00:46:24,701
You know,
those old guys with long hair?"
895
00:46:24,701 --> 00:46:27,538
- We can all have a laugh over this...
896
00:46:27,538 --> 00:46:30,123
...and, you know, they have to,
they have to understand
897
00:46:30,123 --> 00:46:34,044
that, that rock and roll is,
is our way of, uh, of letting out
898
00:46:34,044 --> 00:46:36,672
a lot of excess energy, you know?
899
00:46:38,382 --> 00:46:41,718
As a kid, I was taking
the New Jersey Transit bus
900
00:46:41,718 --> 00:46:42,970
into New York City.
901
00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:44,221
And I was observant.
902
00:46:44,596 --> 00:46:47,224
There was a lot of kids
workin' the street.
903
00:46:47,224 --> 00:46:49,768
You know, New York was pretty rough
and tumble back then,
904
00:46:49,768 --> 00:46:52,020
and there was a lot of streetwalkers.
905
00:46:53,188 --> 00:46:55,858
So, Runaway was an observation.
906
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,069
That was just one of,
you know, a bunch of songs I had written
907
00:46:59,069 --> 00:47:00,654
or co-written at that time.
908
00:47:01,405 --> 00:47:03,323
And I didn't have a band.
909
00:47:03,323 --> 00:47:06,577
We had done, uh, Runaway
in the studio with, uh...
910
00:47:06,577 --> 00:47:08,036
♪ Da, da, da, da, da, da, da ♪
911
00:47:08,036 --> 00:47:09,580
You know, I came up with that.
912
00:47:10,372 --> 00:47:12,833
Jon went back in
and, and recorded it.
913
00:47:12,833 --> 00:47:15,460
I recorded it at the Power Station
914
00:47:15,460 --> 00:47:18,046
with a bunch of cats, as we call them.
915
00:47:18,046 --> 00:47:20,799
The first demo I got
of Jon's was a good song.
916
00:47:20,799 --> 00:47:25,220
I mean, Jon's great talent
is these big, powerful,
917
00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:28,932
pop rock choruses
that just demand to be sung
918
00:47:28,932 --> 00:47:31,268
by, you know, 20,000 people
in an arena.
919
00:47:31,894 --> 00:47:34,813
And then took that and shopped
that around to the record companies.
920
00:47:34,813 --> 00:47:37,816
It was Jon, it wasn't--
there wasn't a band, it just was him.
921
00:47:39,902 --> 00:47:41,862
Sent Runaway out
to anyone and everyone.
922
00:47:41,862 --> 00:47:45,324
To managers, labels,
production companies.
923
00:47:45,741 --> 00:47:49,244
I-I think it was 11 record companies then,
and everybody said no.
924
00:47:51,413 --> 00:47:53,415
Nobody returns a phone call.
925
00:47:53,415 --> 00:47:56,210
Nobody answers a letter. Nothing.
926
00:47:56,877 --> 00:48:00,297
So it was just this kid
knocking on doors with no luck.
927
00:48:00,297 --> 00:48:01,965
I finally said,
"Listen, I've gotta see
928
00:48:01,965 --> 00:48:04,218
"if I'm way off
the mark here
929
00:48:04,218 --> 00:48:06,762
and should consider another,
you know, form of work."
930
00:48:06,762 --> 00:48:09,264
And at that time, my frustration,
931
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,392
a light bulb moment happened, and I said,
932
00:48:12,392 --> 00:48:15,562
"Who's the loneliest man
in the music business?"
933
00:48:15,562 --> 00:48:16,980
Rock 104.
934
00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:18,232
The DJ.
935
00:48:18,232 --> 00:48:20,734
Because he's probably in a dark room
936
00:48:21,318 --> 00:48:25,322
talking into a microphone,
preaching the gospel of music,
937
00:48:25,322 --> 00:48:27,824
telling you to listen
to this band and this song.
938
00:48:27,824 --> 00:48:31,620
And there was a new radio station
in New York City.
939
00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:32,871
WAPP.
940
00:48:32,871 --> 00:48:34,706
WAPP.
941
00:48:34,706 --> 00:48:39,002
WAPP is the Apple's,
New York's newest FM.
942
00:48:39,002 --> 00:48:40,629
Rock on the summer.
943
00:48:40,879 --> 00:48:43,632
It was so new
they didn't have a receptionist.
944
00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:46,510
And fortunately for me,
945
00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:48,720
a young guy by the name
of John Lastman
946
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,974
and a guy named Chip Hobart,
who was the DJ on the air.
947
00:48:51,974 --> 00:48:54,476
This is Chip Hobart at 4 o'clock.
948
00:48:54,476 --> 00:48:55,811
He says,
"Well, you're in luck,
949
00:48:55,811 --> 00:48:59,940
because we want to do
a homegrown record of local talent."
950
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,527
I played him Runaway,
and he said, "That's a hit song."
951
00:49:03,527 --> 00:49:05,445
And I said, "I know!"
952
00:49:05,445 --> 00:49:08,907
And of course APP
is gonna promote themselves.
953
00:49:08,907 --> 00:49:12,286
So they started playing
hometown heroes from New York.
954
00:49:14,162 --> 00:49:15,914
But the miracle
of miracles happened.
955
00:49:15,914 --> 00:49:17,749
Doubleday, the book publisher,
956
00:49:17,749 --> 00:49:21,712
they owned eight radio stations
in some big markets.
957
00:49:22,379 --> 00:49:25,299
They started playing Runaway
on all eight stations.
958
00:49:26,884 --> 00:49:30,095
And all of a sudden, from getting
turned down by every record company,
959
00:49:30,095 --> 00:49:32,848
we were the most requested song
960
00:49:32,848 --> 00:49:35,976
'cause everybody's calling up, "Who's this
Bon Jo-- What is this? What is this?
961
00:49:35,976 --> 00:49:37,811
We want to hear this,
we want to hear this."
962
00:49:37,811 --> 00:49:39,646
So now all those same record guys
963
00:49:39,646 --> 00:49:41,773
that had that cassette
on their desk
964
00:49:42,191 --> 00:49:43,400
went looking for it.
965
00:49:43,942 --> 00:49:45,235
And lo and behold...
966
00:49:46,111 --> 00:49:47,279
it was me.
967
00:49:47,779 --> 00:49:49,364
♪ On the street where you live ♪
968
00:49:49,364 --> 00:49:51,617
♪ Girls talk
about their social lives ♪
969
00:49:51,617 --> 00:49:55,037
So, they'd come and see
what was ultimately,
970
00:49:55,037 --> 00:49:56,538
you know, the band.
971
00:49:58,874 --> 00:50:01,543
I had the band together
for what was meant to be three weeks
972
00:50:01,543 --> 00:50:03,253
of let me promote this
973
00:50:03,253 --> 00:50:05,923
so I can make $100,
$200 a night, now
974
00:50:05,923 --> 00:50:07,132
as an original band.
975
00:50:07,132 --> 00:50:08,425
♪ Living in another world ♪
976
00:50:08,425 --> 00:50:10,719
♪ Trying to get your message through ♪
977
00:50:12,387 --> 00:50:15,599
It was meant to be three weeks,
not 40 years.
978
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,601
Ladies and gentlemen,
it's time to greet some gentlemen
979
00:50:17,601 --> 00:50:18,769
who are from New Jersey.
980
00:50:18,769 --> 00:50:21,146
Their tours I'm sure will take them
all over the world
981
00:50:21,146 --> 00:50:23,815
before this year is up,
please greet Bon Jovi.
982
00:50:25,901 --> 00:50:29,571
♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪
983
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:33,575
♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪
984
00:50:33,575 --> 00:50:35,619
♪ All those things she couldn't say ♪
985
00:50:37,955 --> 00:50:42,251
♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪
986
00:50:42,251 --> 00:50:45,754
I'd asked Dave who was
still going to school...
987
00:50:45,754 --> 00:50:47,339
And I says, "Well,
here's what I want to do.
988
00:50:47,339 --> 00:50:49,925
You know, I wanna get the band together
and this is gonna be like the band."
989
00:50:49,925 --> 00:50:52,386
And he says, "Okay." He quit school.
990
00:50:52,803 --> 00:50:54,721
I said, "Listen, I love pre-med,
991
00:50:54,721 --> 00:50:57,057
but I'll give this, like, a year."
992
00:50:57,558 --> 00:50:59,852
It looks like it's way more fun
than being a doctor.
993
00:51:00,686 --> 00:51:03,564
I asked Alec John Such
who sang his ass off
994
00:51:03,564 --> 00:51:06,567
and was in a cover band
that was making $3,000 a night.
995
00:51:06,567 --> 00:51:08,819
I had seen Alec play in Phantom's Opera,
996
00:51:08,819 --> 00:51:11,154
which was a huge club band in Jersey.
997
00:51:11,154 --> 00:51:13,407
Told Dave about him and he agreed.
998
00:51:13,407 --> 00:51:17,119
Alec was a great bass player,
really cool-looking dude.
999
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:18,745
He had, he had
the shit on his chin,
1000
00:51:18,745 --> 00:51:21,790
smoked these little
brown menthol cigarettes,
1001
00:51:21,790 --> 00:51:24,251
and you just looked at Al and you go,
"That motherfucking guy's cool."
1002
00:51:25,002 --> 00:51:26,336
I asked Tico Torres,
1003
00:51:26,336 --> 00:51:28,213
who was in a band called
Frankie and The Knockouts
1004
00:51:28,213 --> 00:51:29,882
who had a record deal.
1005
00:51:29,882 --> 00:51:31,925
He was married, he had a house,
he was on the road.
1006
00:51:32,301 --> 00:51:33,594
I did own a house.
1007
00:51:33,594 --> 00:51:36,346
And, uh, eventually,
i-it destroyed that marriage.
1008
00:51:36,346 --> 00:51:38,640
But I don't think I should have
been married at that time anyway.
1009
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,225
♪ She's a little runaway ♪
1010
00:51:40,225 --> 00:51:42,019
I used to go see him play.
1011
00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:45,397
I was in awe of Tico Torres
as a drummer.
1012
00:51:45,397 --> 00:51:48,901
I initially met Jon,
the first time I heard from him was Alec.
1013
00:51:48,901 --> 00:51:51,236
And I knew him since I was 15.
1014
00:51:51,236 --> 00:51:53,572
I lost my virginity
at his house for God's sake.
1015
00:51:53,572 --> 00:51:56,241
I remember I'd seen Tico, like,
two days before and he said...
1016
00:51:56,241 --> 00:51:58,535
"Yeah, we'll jam together." You know?
1017
00:51:58,535 --> 00:52:02,497
And so, he-- Jon said,
Jon said, "You know, get him down."
1018
00:52:02,497 --> 00:52:04,416
I called him, I said,
"Tico, remember you said
1019
00:52:04,416 --> 00:52:06,210
we're gonna jam together?
We're gonna."
1020
00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:09,421
John came over
and played me his tape of Runaway
1021
00:52:09,421 --> 00:52:11,173
and we had a little jam session.
1022
00:52:11,673 --> 00:52:13,050
I said, "This kid's a star."
1023
00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:14,968
I mean, he had an aura about him.
1024
00:52:14,968 --> 00:52:17,387
I saw him and I says,
"Look at this guy go."
1025
00:52:17,387 --> 00:52:19,723
And I'm looking like this,
I'm playing the drums, going,
1026
00:52:19,723 --> 00:52:21,934
"This kid's got something,"
you know, the chicks loved his butt.
1027
00:52:21,934 --> 00:52:24,102
I says, "Alright,
I'm gonna hang with this."
1028
00:52:25,312 --> 00:52:28,273
He was the best drummer I ever saw
or played with in my life.
1029
00:52:28,273 --> 00:52:29,441
And still is.
1030
00:52:29,441 --> 00:52:30,567
I was looking at him like,
1031
00:52:30,567 --> 00:52:32,569
"He's the baddest motherfucker
in the land."
1032
00:52:32,569 --> 00:52:34,112
We're allowed to curse, aren't we?
1033
00:52:34,404 --> 00:52:35,906
Let me jump in the middle.
1034
00:52:35,906 --> 00:52:37,533
You guys gather around
like a football huddle.
1035
00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:39,159
How did you meet Richie to begin with?
1036
00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:40,994
Richie was in the audience
one night at a show
1037
00:52:40,994 --> 00:52:42,788
- while the other four of us were playing.
- Yeah.
1038
00:52:42,788 --> 00:52:45,582
And he came up to me and says,
"I want to be your lead guitar player."
1039
00:52:45,582 --> 00:52:47,876
- What, are you crazy?
- Uh, no.
1040
00:52:47,876 --> 00:52:49,795
This is now how
to ingratiate yourself to people
1041
00:52:49,795 --> 00:52:51,463
and say, "I'm gonna be
the lead guitarist."
1042
00:52:51,463 --> 00:52:52,714
Dick, it worked.
1043
00:52:52,714 --> 00:52:54,383
- Right.
1044
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,846
Alec, who was also
in an original band with Richie, said,
1045
00:52:58,846 --> 00:53:01,723
"You gotta see this guy.
There's something about this guy."
1046
00:53:01,723 --> 00:53:03,392
Alec had called me up and said,
1047
00:53:03,392 --> 00:53:04,935
"I'm playing with
this new band, you know,
1048
00:53:04,935 --> 00:53:06,311
"Jon Bongiovi and the Wild Ones.
1049
00:53:06,311 --> 00:53:08,564
Come down and see the band."
So I said, "Yeah, sure."
1050
00:53:08,564 --> 00:53:11,275
And after hearing him play
1051
00:53:11,275 --> 00:53:13,402
and talking a bit, you know,
1052
00:53:13,402 --> 00:53:15,320
we found we were really
on the same track, you know?
1053
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,573
And the rest, as they say, is history.
1054
00:53:17,573 --> 00:53:18,657
The rest is history.
1055
00:53:18,657 --> 00:53:20,534
He walked in and says,
"I'm your new guitar player."
1056
00:53:20,534 --> 00:53:21,952
That's what I did. I was very cocky.
1057
00:53:26,999 --> 00:53:28,292
We immediately hit it off.
1058
00:53:28,292 --> 00:53:30,460
I knew that this guy
was incredibly talented.
1059
00:53:30,878 --> 00:53:33,463
He could play, he could sing,
he could write,
1060
00:53:33,463 --> 00:53:36,049
and I thought he would be
an incredible complement.
1061
00:53:37,259 --> 00:53:38,927
There was a combination of,
1062
00:53:38,927 --> 00:53:42,014
it was all of us playing together
that clicked.
1063
00:53:42,014 --> 00:53:45,100
But Jon and Richie,
their vocal styles together
1064
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:46,602
made its own style.
1065
00:53:47,144 --> 00:53:49,521
You know, you could say,
there's-there's Simon and Garfunkel,
1066
00:53:49,521 --> 00:53:51,857
there's, uh, Lennon, McCartney,
1067
00:53:51,857 --> 00:53:53,483
certain voices just go together.
1068
00:53:53,483 --> 00:53:54,818
And that had a magic to it.
1069
00:53:55,152 --> 00:53:57,654
♪ You need someone to make it last ♪
1070
00:53:57,654 --> 00:54:01,867
The energy of the band, undeniable,
1071
00:54:02,284 --> 00:54:04,203
like a freight train coming at you.
1072
00:54:04,536 --> 00:54:09,333
But Jon and Richie
singing together, magic.
1073
00:54:10,042 --> 00:54:12,669
The song Runaway
that really started it all.
1074
00:54:12,669 --> 00:54:13,879
It triggered the whole thing.
1075
00:54:13,879 --> 00:54:17,633
But that was basically because
of, of that hometown record.
1076
00:54:18,008 --> 00:54:20,719
We would've won that national contest.
1077
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,679
But I pulled out
because fortunately by then
1078
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,766
I had so much interest
from a couple of labels
1079
00:54:25,766 --> 00:54:27,100
that we didn't need it.
1080
00:54:27,518 --> 00:54:30,729
And we signed with PolyGram,
thank God he had the vision.
1081
00:54:30,729 --> 00:54:32,272
And I just was like, I said,
1082
00:54:32,272 --> 00:54:34,566
"You charge the hill,
I'm behind you charging with you."
1083
00:54:34,566 --> 00:54:38,153
I had laid down months
into years of groundwork,
1084
00:54:38,153 --> 00:54:40,155
you know,
trying to get that major label
1085
00:54:40,155 --> 00:54:41,448
and making the contact.
1086
00:54:41,448 --> 00:54:43,408
When it broke nationally,
1087
00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:45,536
it was by a guy named Jon Bongiovi.
1088
00:54:45,536 --> 00:54:47,329
There was no band, there was no manager,
1089
00:54:47,329 --> 00:54:49,081
there wasn't anything at the time.
1090
00:54:49,081 --> 00:54:50,791
Now, if somebody ran up
to you in a bar and said,
1091
00:54:50,791 --> 00:54:51,959
"What's your name," you'd say?
1092
00:54:51,959 --> 00:54:53,085
Jon Bon Jovi.
1093
00:54:53,085 --> 00:54:54,711
It was someone at the record company
1094
00:54:55,170 --> 00:55:00,008
who had suggested
in the way that Van Halen,
1095
00:55:00,342 --> 00:55:03,262
Bon Jovi, two words, could work.
1096
00:55:03,262 --> 00:55:04,638
Van Halen had Jump,
1097
00:55:04,638 --> 00:55:07,182
the first time a guitar band
had a keyboard song.
1098
00:55:07,182 --> 00:55:11,311
Number one song and they broke up,
which is not what you do.
1099
00:55:11,311 --> 00:55:13,772
That left a big hole in the world
1100
00:55:13,772 --> 00:55:16,024
for, like, here we had
a keyboard song,
1101
00:55:16,024 --> 00:55:17,734
we had a great-looking frontman
1102
00:55:17,734 --> 00:55:20,112
who could sing his ass off and entertain.
1103
00:55:20,112 --> 00:55:22,614
We had the guitar-slinging guy
who could do it.
1104
00:55:24,074 --> 00:55:26,076
There was like
a little bit of a hole there.
1105
00:55:26,076 --> 00:55:27,494
And then we just came right in.
1106
00:55:27,494 --> 00:55:31,331
- Show 'em!
- Look, it's my favorite band!
1107
00:55:34,251 --> 00:55:36,837
- Oh, nice work.
- Cute kid, huh?
1108
00:55:36,837 --> 00:55:38,046
Look at that.
1109
00:55:39,923 --> 00:55:41,717
Where's the video?
1110
00:55:42,176 --> 00:55:43,886
And so we made that first record...
1111
00:55:46,054 --> 00:55:47,306
and the adventure began.
1112
00:56:01,987 --> 00:56:03,822
Richie Sambora IV, take one.
1113
00:56:09,745 --> 00:56:10,996
I'm excited for this.
1114
00:56:10,996 --> 00:56:13,123
I'm-- Hey, I'm excited.
1115
00:56:13,624 --> 00:56:15,501
Are we telling the truth
or are we gonna lie?
1116
00:56:15,501 --> 00:56:17,878
What are we gonna do?
Let's-let's-let's figure it out.
1117
00:56:17,878 --> 00:56:20,631
♪ She's a little runaway ♪
1118
00:56:51,912 --> 00:56:55,916
♪ No one heard a single word you said ♪
1119
00:56:57,668 --> 00:57:00,504
♪ They should have seen it in your eyes ♪
1120
00:57:00,921 --> 00:57:03,507
♪ What was going around your head ♪
1121
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:09,388
♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪
1122
00:57:10,722 --> 00:57:12,850
♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪
1123
00:57:12,850 --> 00:57:15,060
♪ All those things she couldn't say ♪
1124
00:57:17,771 --> 00:57:22,025
♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪
1125
00:57:23,151 --> 00:57:25,153
♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪
1126
00:57:25,445 --> 00:57:27,489
♪ Now she works the night away ♪
91267
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