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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,503 --> 00:00:06,740 ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:09,377 --> 00:00:11,345 Hi, I'm Alison Stewart with an MTV News brief, 3 00:00:11,345 --> 00:00:12,980 coming to you from the rehearsal site 4 00:00:12,980 --> 00:00:15,549 from the very first Lollapalooza '95 date, 5 00:00:15,549 --> 00:00:18,086 three and a half hours outside of Seattle. 6 00:00:18,086 --> 00:00:19,453 Most bands have been driving in. 7 00:00:19,453 --> 00:00:21,089 Beck was here rehearsing last night, 8 00:00:21,089 --> 00:00:23,224 as were headliners Sonic Youth. 9 00:00:23,224 --> 00:00:25,859 This morning, Sinead had a two-hour... 10 00:00:25,859 --> 00:00:27,361 Let me pick it up on "this morning." 11 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:28,962 Oh, I should do it all the way through once. 12 00:00:28,962 --> 00:00:30,398 Yeah. 13 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:34,668 When you started with the first Lollapalooza, 14 00:00:34,668 --> 00:00:36,537 did you ever think that it'd be as popular 15 00:00:36,537 --> 00:00:39,107 as it is today, like a worldwide name? 16 00:00:40,508 --> 00:00:43,177 You know what, I never considered worldwide name. 17 00:00:48,816 --> 00:00:50,118 You got the call that said, "Hey, 18 00:00:50,118 --> 00:00:51,919 would you folks headline Lollapalooza?" 19 00:00:51,919 --> 00:00:55,656 Well, we thought, you know, that if Pavement did it 20 00:00:55,656 --> 00:00:57,125 and Beck does it, we'll do it. 21 00:00:57,125 --> 00:00:58,992 - We flipped coins. - And Beck said... 22 00:00:58,992 --> 00:01:00,428 - They all came up heads. - ...he was gonna do it 23 00:01:00,428 --> 00:01:01,862 - if you do it... - "Well, I'll do it 24 00:01:01,862 --> 00:01:03,464 - if you and Beck do it." - We'll all do it together. 25 00:01:03,464 --> 00:01:05,566 Pavement's like the guys down the hall 26 00:01:05,566 --> 00:01:08,602 in the dorm or something, and then Sonic Youth 27 00:01:08,602 --> 00:01:10,204 are kinda like the parents. 28 00:01:10,204 --> 00:01:11,605 And we like little Beck, 29 00:01:11,605 --> 00:01:13,040 'cause he's like the little kid brother 30 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,242 of the tour, I think. 31 00:01:14,242 --> 00:01:16,610 This is how much money I'm making, look. 32 00:01:16,610 --> 00:01:17,978 20 bucks. 33 00:01:17,978 --> 00:01:19,347 Who would you come to see if you guys 34 00:01:19,347 --> 00:01:20,514 were just, like, taking the summer off? 35 00:01:20,514 --> 00:01:21,649 Sinead. 36 00:01:21,649 --> 00:01:23,117 - Really? - Yeah. 37 00:01:23,117 --> 00:01:24,952 You mention that you liked Hole. 38 00:01:24,952 --> 00:01:27,155 Fuck you! 39 00:01:27,155 --> 00:01:29,457 Anyone else you're interested in trying to get into? 40 00:01:29,457 --> 00:01:30,591 Cypress Hill. 41 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:32,092 - Sinead O'Connor. - Yeah. 42 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:33,161 - Really? - Yeah. 43 00:01:33,161 --> 00:01:34,895 - Why? - She's just out there 44 00:01:34,895 --> 00:01:36,096 on her own level. 45 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:37,765 ♪ Give you a shave ♪ 46 00:01:37,765 --> 00:01:40,668 I think it got so big in '94 47 00:01:40,668 --> 00:01:45,939 that they wanted to be more indie-based in '95. 48 00:01:47,575 --> 00:01:50,043 In terms of your set, is it gonna be the hits? 49 00:01:50,043 --> 00:01:51,479 Sonic Youth doesn't really have hits. 50 00:01:51,479 --> 00:01:52,980 I think "Kool Thing" was a hit. 51 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:55,115 "Kool Thing" was all right... 52 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:56,950 Yeah. Hits are for squares. 53 00:01:58,186 --> 00:02:00,154 We decided we should go back 54 00:02:00,154 --> 00:02:02,156 to college radio roots and punk roots, 55 00:02:02,156 --> 00:02:04,292 and we purposefully went very left. 56 00:02:04,292 --> 00:02:07,428 But is it possible to go backwards 57 00:02:07,428 --> 00:02:08,796 and be successful? 58 00:02:08,796 --> 00:02:11,165 ♪ What'd he say ♪ 59 00:02:11,165 --> 00:02:12,800 ♪ I don't wanna ♪ 60 00:02:14,067 --> 00:02:15,469 ♪ I don't think so ♪ 61 00:02:17,171 --> 00:02:18,372 ♪ I don't wanna ♪ 62 00:02:20,073 --> 00:02:21,475 ♪ I don't think so ♪ 63 00:02:23,444 --> 00:02:24,878 One, two, three, in the place to be. 64 00:02:24,878 --> 00:02:26,814 What's up, this is Brother Question 65 00:02:26,814 --> 00:02:29,817 representing The Roots, live from Lollapalooza '95. 66 00:02:29,817 --> 00:02:32,320 ♪ I shall proceed, hey ♪ 67 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,988 ♪ And continue to rock the mic ♪ 68 00:02:34,988 --> 00:02:39,493 ♪ Proceed, proceed, proceed, you know what ♪ 69 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:41,962 Which Lollapalooza has been the best for you? 70 00:02:41,962 --> 00:02:43,831 Gosh, I don't know, they've all been really good. 71 00:02:43,831 --> 00:02:45,733 - Yeah? - I don't know-- whoops. 72 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:49,837 Do you think the idea of the tour has changed? 73 00:02:49,837 --> 00:02:51,171 - Um... - Here you go. 74 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:52,906 No, it's just gotten to be more popular. 75 00:02:52,906 --> 00:02:54,408 I like the alternative bands, 76 00:02:54,408 --> 00:02:56,410 you know, rather than... 77 00:02:56,410 --> 00:02:58,779 you know, they don't have any trendy bands 78 00:02:58,779 --> 00:03:01,014 or anything like that, so that's really good. 79 00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:07,321 I remember in Chicago, we're at the World Amphitheater. 80 00:03:07,321 --> 00:03:09,022 The second stage was in the parking lot. 81 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:11,225 So, The Jesus Lizard is on the main stage 82 00:03:11,225 --> 00:03:13,494 playing maybe to 800 or so people. 83 00:03:13,494 --> 00:03:17,698 ♪ Jazz is a slut again, jazz is a slut again ♪ 84 00:03:17,698 --> 00:03:21,201 ♪ Jass is a slut again ♪ 85 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:25,105 And Coolio's playing to 18,000 people 86 00:03:25,105 --> 00:03:26,374 in the parking lot. 87 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:31,779 In a way, to have The Jesus Lizard, 88 00:03:31,779 --> 00:03:35,983 to have these acts that probably were more suited 89 00:03:35,983 --> 00:03:38,852 for the second stage, carry the whole thing, 90 00:03:38,852 --> 00:03:41,088 I thought wasn't fair for them. 91 00:03:50,498 --> 00:03:52,900 By that point, there was definitely much more 92 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:55,669 of a "let's party" contingent. 93 00:03:58,472 --> 00:04:02,276 Pavement's getting pelted with clods of dirt 94 00:04:02,276 --> 00:04:05,145 by people who are like, "What the fuck is this?" 95 00:04:07,815 --> 00:04:09,983 If you're coming to Lollapalooza 96 00:04:09,983 --> 00:04:13,487 because you thought fucking Rage was awesome 97 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:16,056 and you wanna see the Rage of tomorrow, 98 00:04:16,056 --> 00:04:19,660 and instead, someone hands you Pavement? 99 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:21,895 You're gonna be like, "What's this sissy shit?" 100 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:28,302 Ooh, what a rough show that was. 101 00:04:28,302 --> 00:04:30,971 It was a good idea on paper, 102 00:04:30,971 --> 00:04:34,174 you know, really good bands and, you know. 103 00:04:34,174 --> 00:04:37,645 But I think that year was probably the downfall 104 00:04:37,645 --> 00:04:39,347 of Lollapalooza. 105 00:04:42,483 --> 00:04:46,620 That was the year we didn't sell out every show. 106 00:04:48,422 --> 00:04:50,658 I hate this fucking place! 107 00:04:56,229 --> 00:05:00,634 I remember the press in '94 slagging us, 108 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:04,037 saying Lollapalooza has lost it. 109 00:05:04,037 --> 00:05:07,841 It should have been Hole and Sonic Youth. 110 00:05:07,841 --> 00:05:10,911 Hello? Hello? 111 00:05:13,914 --> 00:05:15,716 Hey, you guys okay? 112 00:05:15,716 --> 00:05:17,985 The next year, we had Hole and Sonic Youth, 113 00:05:17,985 --> 00:05:20,488 and the same press said Lollapalooza's a rip-off, 114 00:05:20,488 --> 00:05:22,022 there's no headliner. 115 00:05:22,022 --> 00:05:26,960 ♪ I went away to see an old friend of mine ♪ 116 00:05:28,596 --> 00:05:29,863 And did you ever have any doubts 117 00:05:29,863 --> 00:05:31,599 about this year's festival at all, Perry? 118 00:05:31,599 --> 00:05:32,933 -Doubts? - Yeah, like doubts like... 119 00:05:32,933 --> 00:05:34,034 - Yeah. - Yeah. 120 00:05:35,803 --> 00:05:37,571 I think there'll be next year's Lollapalooza 121 00:05:37,571 --> 00:05:41,008 will be-- it's gotta get better. 122 00:05:43,377 --> 00:05:45,145 A week that brought the official word 123 00:05:45,145 --> 00:05:46,914 that Metallica, one of the biggest rock bands 124 00:05:46,914 --> 00:05:49,683 in the world, will headline the 1996 edition 125 00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:52,152 of Lollapalooza, traditionally a showcase 126 00:05:52,152 --> 00:05:54,422 for less imposingly successful bands. 127 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:03,564 I did not like what I saw. 128 00:06:03,564 --> 00:06:09,803 I just didn't think they were alternative music. 129 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:11,905 Metallica's one of the best bands on Earth, 130 00:06:11,905 --> 00:06:13,507 certainly one of the best live bands. 131 00:06:14,675 --> 00:06:18,612 And sadly, got in a pretty strong argument over it. 132 00:06:18,612 --> 00:06:20,614 I felt disrespected. 133 00:06:20,614 --> 00:06:23,016 I'm not putting this thing together to-- 134 00:06:23,016 --> 00:06:24,918 to make the most money. 135 00:06:24,918 --> 00:06:27,120 I'm putting this thing together to-- 136 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,156 to make the most joy. 137 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:32,593 I felt like, okay, so now you giants 138 00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:34,928 are gonna try to, like, trample me. 139 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:37,264 That was it, I told 'em I didn't wanna have anything 140 00:06:37,264 --> 00:06:39,066 to do with the year. 141 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,069 They're criticized because it's like, 142 00:06:42,069 --> 00:06:44,705 they're saying, "Well, this isn't alternative music." 143 00:06:44,705 --> 00:06:46,440 Alternative music, Ted? What do you think? 144 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,111 - A oft, overused, dead... - Finished. 145 00:06:51,111 --> 00:06:54,648 - Uh, ancient. - It's something 146 00:06:54,648 --> 00:06:56,216 - new, creative. - Misused. 147 00:06:56,216 --> 00:06:58,452 Let's get something new and creative, 148 00:06:58,452 --> 00:07:01,522 and we'll put on a show with it. 149 00:07:01,522 --> 00:07:05,358 I hate it. It's like, it used to be like, 150 00:07:05,358 --> 00:07:07,260 a whole lot of small bands. 151 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:09,930 Like, six years ago, this was the different thing to do. 152 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:11,865 Now, it's the normal thing to do. 153 00:07:11,865 --> 00:07:14,768 Have you noticed that there's not a lot of girls here? 154 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:16,470 Yeah. That's good for us. 155 00:07:24,678 --> 00:07:27,548 Come the fuck on, baby! 156 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:43,864 When we were asked to come 157 00:07:43,864 --> 00:07:47,000 and play Lollapalooza '96, I mean, we didn't bat an eye. 158 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,136 It was, "Well, of course. Fuck yeah." 159 00:07:49,136 --> 00:07:51,004 We felt that we came out of a punk aesthetic. 160 00:07:51,004 --> 00:07:54,141 We felt that we came out of an alternative world. 161 00:07:54,141 --> 00:07:56,176 We felt that we had never belonged, 162 00:07:56,176 --> 00:07:59,780 and you know, we had always felt a kinship 163 00:07:59,780 --> 00:08:02,482 to anybody that was doing anything 164 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:04,051 outside of the mainstream. 165 00:08:04,051 --> 00:08:06,887 ♪ I'm sent here by the chosen one ♪ 166 00:08:06,887 --> 00:08:08,622 Give it to me! 167 00:08:10,123 --> 00:08:13,260 Everyone I know in the underground likes Metallica. 168 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:16,463 There's no-- it's like Metallica and everybody else, 169 00:08:16,463 --> 00:08:18,331 as far as that genre, for me. 170 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:22,703 It's like, they're the best, so why shouldn't they play it? 171 00:08:22,703 --> 00:08:26,674 ♪ Yes, I'm creeping death, ah! ♪ 172 00:08:26,674 --> 00:08:28,175 The one thing that we shared 173 00:08:28,175 --> 00:08:30,143 with our alternative brothers and sisters 174 00:08:30,143 --> 00:08:33,180 was that we all felt that we were trying 175 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:34,915 to chart our own path 176 00:08:34,915 --> 00:08:38,719 and not play the game of the industry 177 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:41,555 or of the record business. 178 00:08:41,555 --> 00:08:45,726 But did they wear flannel and we didn't? 179 00:08:45,726 --> 00:08:48,929 Fine, if that's where you wanna separate us. 180 00:08:48,929 --> 00:08:52,633 But I never associated it with like a musical style. 181 00:08:57,470 --> 00:09:00,240 In the past, we had gone out of our way 182 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,411 to explain how we didn't want to be limited 183 00:09:04,411 --> 00:09:07,615 to one particular thing musically. 184 00:09:07,615 --> 00:09:09,750 There is this dip in 1995 185 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:13,854 where it was almost like Lollapalooza's public apology 186 00:09:13,854 --> 00:09:16,223 for not being cool enough. 187 00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:19,960 And then in 1996, Lollapalooza's apology 188 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,562 for not acknowledging its own commerciality. 189 00:09:27,267 --> 00:09:29,102 To go from Sonic Youth one year 190 00:09:29,102 --> 00:09:32,272 to Metallica the next year, that's-- that's a giant leap. 191 00:09:32,272 --> 00:09:34,474 What's the bridge between the two? 192 00:09:38,278 --> 00:09:39,847 There was strategic errors that year. 193 00:09:39,847 --> 00:09:43,851 The Metallica crowd was a little aggro. 194 00:09:43,851 --> 00:09:45,285 Bathrooms got broken. 195 00:09:49,489 --> 00:09:52,459 Metallica had very specific demands. 196 00:09:52,459 --> 00:09:55,295 One of 'em is they didn't want to play amphitheaters, 197 00:09:55,295 --> 00:09:58,531 so we could only play in fields. 198 00:09:58,531 --> 00:10:00,200 There was no infrastructure. 199 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,302 We had to bring everything in. 200 00:10:02,302 --> 00:10:05,939 It was very expensive, and on top of it, 201 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:07,641 we raised the ticket price. 202 00:10:07,641 --> 00:10:10,477 We raised it from $27.50 to $35. 203 00:10:10,477 --> 00:10:13,013 That seems like nothing now, 204 00:10:13,013 --> 00:10:16,316 but still, this was a big jump in price. 205 00:10:21,822 --> 00:10:24,457 Metallica came, we built a lineup with them. 206 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:27,795 It was the first time we had a guest slot 207 00:10:27,795 --> 00:10:29,663 where we had a rotating lineup. 208 00:10:29,663 --> 00:10:31,198 And we had everybody from Devo, 209 00:10:31,198 --> 00:10:33,466 to the Cocteau Twins, to Waylon Jennings. 210 00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:35,302 We had the Ramones. Nobody had put the Ramones 211 00:10:35,302 --> 00:10:37,404 - on a festival. - One of my favorite bands. 212 00:10:37,404 --> 00:10:39,639 Johnny, Joey, Marky, Dee Dee-- the Ramones. 213 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,474 It's one of those things when you bring it up, 214 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:43,543 "How do we not have the Ra-- they're the Ramo-- 215 00:10:43,543 --> 00:10:45,445 you know, they're the Ramones!" 216 00:10:46,747 --> 00:10:50,183 The Ramones were a big part of what fueled me 217 00:10:50,183 --> 00:10:52,185 in the late '70s. 218 00:10:52,185 --> 00:10:54,888 Is it good to expose, you know, yourselves, 219 00:10:54,888 --> 00:10:57,024 your music to other fans? 220 00:10:57,024 --> 00:10:58,525 It's good to expose yourself. 221 00:10:58,525 --> 00:11:00,193 - Exactly. 222 00:11:00,193 --> 00:11:02,029 Some people think this lineup 223 00:11:02,029 --> 00:11:04,832 has strayed away from what Lollapalooza was meant to be. 224 00:11:04,832 --> 00:11:06,867 Well, I don't agree. 225 00:11:06,867 --> 00:11:09,636 I mean, like, you know, you have, what, three stages? 226 00:11:09,636 --> 00:11:11,739 You have indie bands and alternative bands. 227 00:11:11,739 --> 00:11:13,673 And I mean, like, the Lollapalooza festival 228 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:16,143 I guess is kind of like the summer event. 229 00:11:18,245 --> 00:11:20,547 That year, we took more chances. 230 00:11:20,547 --> 00:11:22,549 The audience were even bigger. 231 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:24,752 It broke all kinds of attendance records, 232 00:11:24,752 --> 00:11:29,189 but it got its level of criticism. 233 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:30,657 Like the year before was too indie, 234 00:11:30,657 --> 00:11:32,225 and this was too big. 235 00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:36,063 Wow, it's like Woodstock, 236 00:11:36,063 --> 00:11:37,731 only with advertisements everywhere 237 00:11:37,731 --> 00:11:39,232 and tons of security guards. 238 00:11:39,232 --> 00:11:41,568 - He's cool. 239 00:11:41,568 --> 00:11:44,204 Are you being sarcastic, dude? 240 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:45,839 I don't even know anymore. 241 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,377 Rolling Stone called it a cash cow. 242 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:54,381 I don't mean to wave my "I'm right" flag, 243 00:11:54,381 --> 00:11:57,550 but... I was right. 244 00:12:04,858 --> 00:12:09,462 In 1997, I came back to Lollapalooza. 245 00:12:09,462 --> 00:12:14,667 By then, I'd fallen in love with electronic music. 246 00:12:14,667 --> 00:12:16,970 I first went to England. 247 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:20,007 We were listening to Orbital. 248 00:12:21,274 --> 00:12:24,444 Prodigy. Tricky. 249 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,518 I was loving what I was hearing. 250 00:12:34,321 --> 00:12:37,925 ♪ Don't wanna be on top of your list ♪ 251 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:39,759 ♪ Monopoly improperly kissed ♪ 252 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:44,631 At my suggestion, I brought in electronic music. 253 00:12:48,135 --> 00:12:50,637 Okay, so '97... 254 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,744 We had Marleys, James, 255 00:12:57,744 --> 00:13:01,014 Korn, Tricky, 256 00:13:01,014 --> 00:13:03,183 Snoop, Tool, 257 00:13:03,183 --> 00:13:05,418 Prodigy, Devo. 258 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:07,220 I helped with that. 259 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,122 The Orb. 260 00:13:11,158 --> 00:13:14,061 What do you think of the whole mixed lineup this year? 261 00:13:14,061 --> 00:13:17,630 The lineup this year is not as good as it was last year, 262 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:20,133 because they had more of the mainstream bands last year. 263 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:22,335 I knew the groups better last year, 264 00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:24,571 but Tool's here, and Korn's here, 265 00:13:24,571 --> 00:13:27,307 and Tricky was good, so I'm having 266 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:29,576 just as good of a time as I did last year. 267 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:32,179 Perry wanted to go early into dance 268 00:13:32,179 --> 00:13:34,747 and leave this rock world behind. 269 00:13:34,747 --> 00:13:36,383 I think it's brave, you know what I mean? 270 00:13:36,383 --> 00:13:39,386 And the proof is as in ticket sales. 271 00:13:39,386 --> 00:13:40,854 The ticket sales ain't going too well, 272 00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:42,689 and that's always the case. 273 00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:44,224 Sadly, it didn't do well. 274 00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:46,226 Wasn't that it shouldn't have done well, 275 00:13:46,226 --> 00:13:47,895 it was just too early. 276 00:13:47,895 --> 00:13:50,197 And he was just too ahead on that one. 277 00:13:50,197 --> 00:13:51,965 Right around that time, 278 00:13:51,965 --> 00:13:54,601 you also have chat boards and discussion rooms. 279 00:13:54,601 --> 00:13:57,537 You had connectivity, so what ended up happening 280 00:13:57,537 --> 00:14:00,707 is you have the internet kind of being a place 281 00:14:00,707 --> 00:14:04,277 where you can go learn it all, see it all, know it all. 282 00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:06,313 But Lollapalooza used to be the place 283 00:14:06,313 --> 00:14:07,414 where you could do that. 284 00:14:09,649 --> 00:14:11,418 What does Lollapalooza mean to you guys now? 285 00:14:13,753 --> 00:14:16,423 It means nothing to me, just music and entertainment. 286 00:14:16,423 --> 00:14:17,958 No meaning at all. 287 00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:19,559 Why do you think there were less people here this year? 288 00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:21,895 I don't know, I just think that, um... 289 00:14:21,895 --> 00:14:23,363 I don't know. 290 00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:24,731 It's getting worse. It's good, but like, 291 00:14:24,731 --> 00:14:26,399 it's not as good as before. 292 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:27,968 So, what ended up happening 293 00:14:27,968 --> 00:14:30,603 is the total annihilation of subculture. 294 00:14:30,603 --> 00:14:32,305 This summer, promoters have assembled 295 00:14:32,305 --> 00:14:34,641 over a dozen festivals and package tours. 296 00:14:34,641 --> 00:14:37,477 Ozzy Osbourne leads a cross-country hard rock march 297 00:14:37,477 --> 00:14:39,079 with his Ozzfest. 298 00:14:39,079 --> 00:14:40,780 Vans Warped Tour, 299 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:43,550 aimed at the extreme sports and skateboarding crowd. 300 00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:46,619 The Horde Tour features Neil Young and Crazy Horse. 301 00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:48,488 The House of Blues Smokin' Grooves Tour 302 00:14:48,488 --> 00:14:50,623 has George Clinton's P-Funk and Cypress Hill. 303 00:14:51,658 --> 00:14:54,194 Turning down the testosterone a bit, there's a new festival 304 00:14:54,194 --> 00:14:55,795 featuring mostly female artists 305 00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:57,965 called the Lilith Fair. 306 00:14:57,965 --> 00:15:00,533 Were you concerned at all with the shows like Horde 307 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:02,135 and Lilith Fair, that some of the best 308 00:15:02,135 --> 00:15:04,771 and most popular acts would somehow be snatched up 309 00:15:04,771 --> 00:15:06,839 on other tours? 310 00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:09,476 Well, it makes you have to think hard. 311 00:15:09,476 --> 00:15:11,478 How are you gonna get the artists 312 00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:13,513 that the other guy wants? 313 00:15:13,513 --> 00:15:16,349 How? This is how. 314 00:15:16,349 --> 00:15:19,619 The managers were like, "Who wants me? 315 00:15:19,619 --> 00:15:21,288 Pay me." 316 00:15:21,288 --> 00:15:22,956 I think it's-- this year is so great 317 00:15:22,956 --> 00:15:24,924 because Jon Spencer Blues Explosion is here, 318 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:26,693 and that's just, you know, such a-- 319 00:15:26,693 --> 00:15:28,795 that's the perfect band, I think, you know? 320 00:15:28,795 --> 00:15:30,430 I think-- I think they-- 321 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:33,166 I think they were taken off the bill, unfortunately. 322 00:15:33,166 --> 00:15:34,834 - Oh, that's right. - Oh, whoa! 323 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,270 - I'm sorry to break the news. - Oh, man! 324 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:44,177 It was ending of sorts for a lot of things. 325 00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:48,215 ♪ Life is hard and so am I ♪ 326 00:15:49,849 --> 00:15:53,720 ♪ You better give me something so I don't die ♪ 327 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,355 That's life. 328 00:15:55,355 --> 00:15:57,090 Things evolve, things change, things blow up, 329 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:59,526 what goes underground becomes mainstream, 330 00:15:59,526 --> 00:16:00,927 what's mainstream becomes old, 331 00:16:00,927 --> 00:16:02,262 just shrivels up and dies. 332 00:16:02,262 --> 00:16:04,497 Everything's always moving, you know, 333 00:16:04,497 --> 00:16:06,199 in good ways and bad. 334 00:16:08,168 --> 00:16:11,604 The creativity was getting stifled. 335 00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:15,175 It was like when Jane's ended the first time. 336 00:16:16,243 --> 00:16:18,611 So, I'm not sitting there fighting for that. 337 00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:20,280 I just let it lay. 338 00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:23,516 And it went away. 339 00:16:23,516 --> 00:16:25,885 ♪ Before I sputter out ♪ 340 00:16:25,885 --> 00:16:27,820 We changed the industry, 341 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:30,690 and then we were a victim of our own success. 342 00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:32,359 That's how I see it. 343 00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:36,663 ♪ Before I, you know ♪ 344 00:16:38,265 --> 00:16:39,599 It was horrible. 345 00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:42,569 I mean, this was a family. 346 00:16:42,569 --> 00:16:45,372 And all of a sudden, it was over. 347 00:16:53,446 --> 00:16:54,914 Lollapalooza, the original 348 00:16:54,914 --> 00:16:56,916 alterna-rock summer tour, died this week 349 00:16:56,916 --> 00:16:58,818 at the age of seven from a faltering 350 00:16:58,818 --> 00:17:01,254 of its hipness factor, and complications brought on 351 00:17:01,254 --> 00:17:02,722 by competition. 352 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:05,125 The tour was pronounced dead by cofounder Ted Gardner, 353 00:17:05,125 --> 00:17:06,926 who also cited a severe deficiency 354 00:17:06,926 --> 00:17:08,628 of A-list star power. 355 00:17:08,628 --> 00:17:10,497 Mourners were asked to remember Lollapalooza 356 00:17:10,497 --> 00:17:12,165 not in its years of decline, 357 00:17:12,165 --> 00:17:15,302 but in its giddy infancy way back in the day. 358 00:17:15,302 --> 00:17:18,138 MTV News. You hear it... 359 00:17:18,138 --> 00:17:24,311 ...first. 360 00:17:24,311 --> 00:17:25,945 So, '98 to '03 was dead. 361 00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:34,787 Coachella then became the new exciting proposition 362 00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,289 for a music fan. 363 00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:40,527 And it wasn't necessarily about a cultural movement. 364 00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:42,529 Now, it was about a lot of bands 365 00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:43,963 on a lot of stages, 366 00:17:43,963 --> 00:17:46,799 which was the change of the format 367 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:50,203 from the traveling festival to what Europe always did, 368 00:17:50,203 --> 00:17:51,871 which was the location, three day, 369 00:17:51,871 --> 00:17:53,606 now we're 125 bands. 370 00:17:53,606 --> 00:17:58,010 And then Lolla came back in '03 and... 371 00:17:59,546 --> 00:18:01,348 did okay in '03. 372 00:18:01,348 --> 00:18:03,983 Tried to do a tweak on the format in '04. 373 00:18:03,983 --> 00:18:05,985 The national rock tour Lollapalooza 374 00:18:05,985 --> 00:18:08,155 won't be around upstate New York this summer. 375 00:18:08,155 --> 00:18:09,622 It's been canceled. 376 00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:12,159 It is the second date dropped from the summer tour. 377 00:18:12,159 --> 00:18:14,727 Made some bad mistakes 378 00:18:14,727 --> 00:18:16,496 trying to-- trying to revive something 379 00:18:16,496 --> 00:18:18,398 that probably shouldn't have been revived, 380 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:20,767 and should have just gone to... 381 00:18:21,801 --> 00:18:23,203 the Reading format right then. 382 00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:24,704 It was a mistake. 383 00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:26,573 It fell on its face. 384 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,576 I told my wife, I hate to admit it, 385 00:18:29,576 --> 00:18:32,044 but I think that's that with Lollapalooza. 386 00:18:32,044 --> 00:18:34,013 I don't think it's gonna ever happen anymore, 387 00:18:34,013 --> 00:18:35,348 and it feels weird. 388 00:18:35,348 --> 00:18:37,317 It's kind of like losing a limb 389 00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:39,219 or something like that. 390 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:52,365 We had been through so much, and the ups and downs, 391 00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:56,002 and trying to stay on edge when there isn't an edge. 392 00:18:56,002 --> 00:18:58,738 There just isn't an edge anymore. 393 00:18:58,738 --> 00:19:01,741 There was always a commercial versus art conflict. 394 00:19:02,775 --> 00:19:05,412 And that's good, that was healthy. 395 00:19:05,412 --> 00:19:07,814 But the market really changed, 396 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:11,584 so everybody was open to new ideas. 397 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:15,488 I didn't know what I was gonna do, 398 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:17,056 and I was very embarrassed. 399 00:19:18,124 --> 00:19:19,926 I was hurting for money. 400 00:19:21,561 --> 00:19:26,165 And I don't know why, 401 00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:32,205 but Rick Rubin decided to make an offer to me 402 00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:33,573 to buy the name... 403 00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:37,510 for like a million dollars. 404 00:19:39,446 --> 00:19:43,283 I won't tell you exactly how I put it, 405 00:19:43,283 --> 00:19:44,917 but I said no. 406 00:19:51,991 --> 00:19:53,125 Thank you so much. 407 00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,428 This has been so much fun for us. 408 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:04,271 In '04, we were producing Austin City Limits. 409 00:20:04,271 --> 00:20:06,473 That was starting to blow up. 410 00:20:06,473 --> 00:20:08,775 And we were looking for other sites 411 00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:10,477 to start doing other music festivals. 412 00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:13,646 It was kind of the new model moving forward, right? 413 00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:16,148 I mean, ACL, Bonnaroo, Coachella, 414 00:20:16,148 --> 00:20:18,050 all had been born out of this new model. 415 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:20,520 But Lollapalooza was the biggest festival brand name 416 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,355 recognition in the world. 417 00:20:22,355 --> 00:20:24,891 So, you know, we contacted Perry, 418 00:20:24,891 --> 00:20:27,159 and it was literally right after it went down. 419 00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:29,329 Okay, can the presentation happen on Friday? 420 00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:31,097 I flew out to Los Angeles, 421 00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:32,432 had lunch with Perry Farrell. 422 00:20:32,432 --> 00:20:34,534 And you know, Perry was upset. 423 00:20:34,534 --> 00:20:36,703 I mean, he looked like he had lost a child. 424 00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:40,507 And... I was like, actually, no, 425 00:20:40,507 --> 00:20:42,642 this is a great opportunity for us to, like, 426 00:20:42,642 --> 00:20:46,546 hit the reset button and do it a new fresh way. 427 00:20:46,546 --> 00:20:50,883 ♪ A change will do you good ♪ 428 00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:53,553 There was this guy, Charlie Jones. 429 00:20:53,553 --> 00:20:56,022 I really-- I really like this man. 430 00:20:56,022 --> 00:20:58,991 I like what they were doing with Austin City Limits. 431 00:20:58,991 --> 00:21:01,528 He's got a location, and he's dedicated 432 00:21:01,528 --> 00:21:03,029 to that location. 433 00:21:04,163 --> 00:21:05,832 And then I got to meet his team. 434 00:21:05,832 --> 00:21:07,367 Potentially bringing 435 00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:10,803 Lollapalooza into the fold, it was too good to be true. 436 00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:13,506 I was very familiar with Lollapalooza 437 00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:16,242 as a fan in 1992. 438 00:21:16,242 --> 00:21:18,911 It was incredible, life-changing, 439 00:21:18,911 --> 00:21:21,414 just such a-- I mean, it was the height. 440 00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:24,751 It was a brand-new experience for everyone. 441 00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:26,419 They said, "Man, listen, 442 00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:28,287 "we all went to Lollapalooza. 443 00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:30,022 We know what you bring." 444 00:21:30,022 --> 00:21:32,291 And they were independent promoters. 445 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,994 You have to understand, there are only four 446 00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:37,263 independent promoters in the country. 447 00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:39,666 Everybody else is under somebody's... 448 00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:42,602 They've got a collar on. 449 00:21:42,602 --> 00:21:44,236 They don't. 450 00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:46,072 We just didn't know what we didn't know back then, 451 00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:47,540 so we were just kinda blindly doing 452 00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:49,075 whatever we felt like was right. 453 00:21:49,075 --> 00:21:51,010 There was no handbook or playbook, 454 00:21:51,010 --> 00:21:52,845 and we didn't have another company to follow, 455 00:21:52,845 --> 00:21:55,348 because there wasn't one growing the same way we were. 456 00:21:55,348 --> 00:21:57,417 It's a bit like a band that has new members 457 00:21:57,417 --> 00:21:58,951 and new energy. 458 00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:02,522 The Charlies came in, and it was reborn. 459 00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:07,660 Well, cheers. Here's to success. 460 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,397 Yeah. The music has begun. 461 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:20,440 - Whoo. - Whoo! 462 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,543 What do we do from here? 463 00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:27,914 We had success with the ACL festival business model, 464 00:22:27,914 --> 00:22:32,452 and were actively soliciting other venues and cities 465 00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:34,687 of where that kind of model might work. 466 00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:37,790 And some staff in the office came to me and were like, 467 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:39,992 "Hey, Chicago Park District 468 00:22:39,992 --> 00:22:42,829 "is having their annual budget meeting tonight. 469 00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:46,165 "And on the agenda, it states, you know, 470 00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:51,804 "the creation of a new event to raise $250,000 471 00:22:51,804 --> 00:22:54,006 for programs that were cut throughout the Park District." 472 00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:56,342 Lightbulb. This is like, 473 00:22:56,342 --> 00:22:58,411 it's carpe diem moment. 474 00:22:58,411 --> 00:23:02,181 And I get emotional when I think about that. 475 00:23:02,181 --> 00:23:05,418 But there was a unique carpe diem moment. 476 00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:08,721 We were like, who's-- who's the best speaker, 477 00:23:08,721 --> 00:23:12,224 and who could we send to this annual budget meeting 478 00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:13,993 in Chicago? 479 00:23:13,993 --> 00:23:16,829 We unanimously elected Stacy Rodrigues. 480 00:23:19,699 --> 00:23:21,233 They had a budget meeting 481 00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:23,369 for the Chicago Parks District 482 00:23:23,369 --> 00:23:26,973 where they are listening to all of the public 483 00:23:26,973 --> 00:23:29,008 talk about all the things that they want them 484 00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:31,143 to spend money on. 485 00:23:31,143 --> 00:23:33,345 And here I was saying, we have this new festival. 486 00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:36,182 We think that we're gonna bring you about $500,000. 487 00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:37,784 And they were like, "Can we talk to you 488 00:23:37,784 --> 00:23:39,786 after this meeting?" 489 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,355 We were honestly a little scared 490 00:23:43,355 --> 00:23:44,857 to even say Lollapalooza, 491 00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:48,160 because the last time that they had done a festival 492 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,329 in Grant Park was in 1970. 493 00:23:50,329 --> 00:23:53,132 There was a huge riot actually that year. 494 00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:55,502 Sly and the Family Stone was three hours late, 495 00:23:55,502 --> 00:23:57,904 people started throwing bottles and rocks, 496 00:23:57,904 --> 00:24:00,873 and suddenly there were fires and cars overturned. 497 00:24:00,873 --> 00:24:03,476 So, no concerts in the park ever since then. 498 00:24:05,211 --> 00:24:06,746 Whee! 499 00:24:06,746 --> 00:24:08,948 Perry Farrell's here in Chicago 500 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:11,884 in our Q101 studios, Mancow's Morning Madhouse. 501 00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:14,020 When the trash is being picked up, how many people 502 00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:16,188 will have gone through Grant Park for this thing? 503 00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:19,626 We're expecting approximately 70,000 in total. 504 00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:20,893 - Wow. - Excellent. 505 00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:22,461 How much bullshit did you have to go through 506 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:23,863 to get Grant Park? 507 00:24:23,863 --> 00:24:25,732 I mean, they didn't do music in it for years now. 508 00:24:25,732 --> 00:24:28,134 It was hard work, man. 509 00:24:28,134 --> 00:24:30,402 But, you know, it's done. 510 00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:33,906 It's kinda like negotiating a marriage, right? 511 00:24:33,906 --> 00:24:36,475 Once it's done, you don't have to worry about it. 512 00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:39,311 I don't know, it should be fun. 513 00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,380 There's a lot of good music, but it's probably 514 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:44,784 a lot of security, a lot of cops, 515 00:24:44,784 --> 00:24:46,919 five-dollar waters, I'm sure. 516 00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:49,455 - Yeah. - $10 pizzas. 517 00:24:49,455 --> 00:24:53,492 $20 a day for parking. Yeah. 518 00:24:56,796 --> 00:24:59,031 Early on, there was a lot of resentment. 519 00:24:59,031 --> 00:25:02,101 Grant Park gets cordoned off for fucking weeks 520 00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:04,537 before and after Lolla. 521 00:25:04,537 --> 00:25:06,806 I mean, it's a very Chicago thing that people 522 00:25:06,806 --> 00:25:09,876 were like, "How dare Lollapalooza come and bring 523 00:25:09,876 --> 00:25:14,547 "this fucking monstrosity of a festival here. 524 00:25:16,015 --> 00:25:18,517 Nobody's from here." 525 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:21,453 We just got beat up in the press. 526 00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:24,957 The biggest critic was Jim DeRogatis 527 00:25:24,957 --> 00:25:26,458 from the Chicago Sun Times. 528 00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:28,861 This city should not be in the concert business. 529 00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:33,432 The parks were not designed to be privatized for weeks-- 530 00:25:33,432 --> 00:25:35,968 in the case of Lollapalooza, months at a time. 531 00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:38,137 Should the parks not be for softball, 532 00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:41,207 and dog walking, and-- and people? 533 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:43,309 Organizations in the city tried to shut it down, 534 00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:50,016 "You can't use Grant Park," but, it happened. 535 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,691 This group is one of the seminal rock bands 536 00:25:58,691 --> 00:26:02,494 - of the '80s. 537 00:26:02,494 --> 00:26:03,830 They were reaching their height, 538 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:06,232 and then they suddenly disappeared, 539 00:26:06,232 --> 00:26:09,301 and we lost them for a decade or more. 540 00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:11,738 But I'm happy to announce, 541 00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:16,208 today at Lollapalooza, we are all privileged 542 00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:22,048 to see, once again, our Pixies! 543 00:26:26,452 --> 00:26:30,790 ♪ And this I know, his teeth as white as snow ♪ 544 00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:34,026 ♪ What a gas it was to see him ♪ 545 00:26:34,026 --> 00:26:38,765 ♪ Walk her every day into a shady place ♪ 546 00:26:38,765 --> 00:26:40,432 ♪ With her lips she said ♪ 547 00:26:40,432 --> 00:26:41,868 ♪ She said hey Paul, hey Paul ♪ 548 00:26:41,868 --> 00:26:43,703 Finally, I'm here tonight watching the Pixies 549 00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:45,504 play at Lollapalooza. 550 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:48,607 The rebirth. Version 2.0. 551 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:53,545 ♪ Gigantic, gigantic, gigantic ♪ 552 00:26:53,545 --> 00:26:55,081 What are you most looking forward to? 553 00:26:55,081 --> 00:26:57,016 Who will you be in the audience for, Perry Farrell? 554 00:26:57,016 --> 00:26:58,685 Pixies is gonna really... 555 00:26:58,685 --> 00:27:00,019 - That's cool. - ...blow this place up. 556 00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:02,254 And I'm gonna be there for Billy Idol. 557 00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:05,024 Absolutely, I just can't wait to see him snarl. 558 00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:07,694 All hell's coming with me! 559 00:27:07,694 --> 00:27:09,628 -Weezer? -Weezer, for sure. 560 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:11,731 - Weezer! 561 00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:14,934 I tell everybody, you gotta go see Brian Jonestown Massacre. 562 00:27:14,934 --> 00:27:16,635 - Ah... - We got Dandy Warhols... 563 00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:18,004 I think Lollapalooza 564 00:27:18,004 --> 00:27:19,739 needs to reestablish some of that credibility 565 00:27:19,739 --> 00:27:21,107 that they once had back in the day, 566 00:27:21,107 --> 00:27:23,676 because it did slip there for a while. 567 00:27:23,676 --> 00:27:26,012 Perry knows the years when he's not as proud of it, 568 00:27:26,012 --> 00:27:28,681 or people were throwing rocks at it, or whatever. 569 00:27:28,681 --> 00:27:30,817 I think it's a smart move that he's doing 570 00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:34,620 a single weekend event here in Chicago, 571 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:36,522 as opposed to a tour. 572 00:27:36,522 --> 00:27:37,790 Hello, everybody. 573 00:27:42,829 --> 00:27:45,765 First year in Chicago, was a little worried. 574 00:27:45,765 --> 00:27:47,734 But I had confidence. 575 00:27:48,835 --> 00:27:50,402 Good things can happen, right? 576 00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:55,742 ♪ Racey days help me through the hopeless haze ♪ 577 00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:57,844 To see how the world has changed 578 00:27:57,844 --> 00:28:01,580 and festivals have flourished and withered on the vine. 579 00:28:02,849 --> 00:28:05,117 With Chicago, I couldn't have imagined that. 580 00:28:05,117 --> 00:28:07,186 ♪ And I can't even recognize... ♪ 581 00:28:07,186 --> 00:28:08,821 You name it, we had problems. 582 00:28:08,821 --> 00:28:12,291 But we did not cut corners, 583 00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:14,260 and we did everything that the city asked of us. 584 00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:15,762 - Right now. - It's a good time to do one. 585 00:28:17,663 --> 00:28:20,900 Everybody's excited. The vibe was fantastic. 586 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,569 And there's a picture, everybody's cheering, 587 00:28:23,569 --> 00:28:25,304 and I'm standing there in the back 588 00:28:25,304 --> 00:28:27,539 mortified of how much money we just lost. 589 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,041 You know, it was all our own money, 590 00:28:29,041 --> 00:28:30,476 and it was a gut punch. 591 00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:31,878 But we knew we had something, 592 00:28:31,878 --> 00:28:34,380 we knew the vibe of the festival was gonna grow. 593 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:36,482 And on Monday after Lollapalooza, 594 00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,517 in the Chicago Tribune above the fold, 595 00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:40,352 it said "Successapalooza." 596 00:28:40,352 --> 00:28:42,254 And right then, you could feel it. 597 00:28:42,254 --> 00:28:44,523 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 598 00:28:44,523 --> 00:28:46,658 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 599 00:28:46,658 --> 00:28:49,061 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 600 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,197 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 601 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,499 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 602 00:28:53,499 --> 00:28:55,667 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 603 00:28:57,436 --> 00:29:02,208 I think when they came back 2005, 2006, 2007... 604 00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:03,976 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 605 00:29:03,976 --> 00:29:05,812 ♪ If could blow up the world ♪ 606 00:29:05,812 --> 00:29:09,481 ...I felt that there was a really incredible curation 607 00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:11,483 that was starting again. 608 00:29:15,521 --> 00:29:17,156 You know, to get to see the Flaming Lips 609 00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:18,690 as one of the big bands. 610 00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:21,127 ♪ Does that make me crazy ♪ 611 00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:23,729 Gnarls Barkley was brand-new. 612 00:29:23,729 --> 00:29:25,564 ♪ Crazy ♪ 613 00:29:27,199 --> 00:29:30,536 ♪ That make me crazy ♪ 614 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:36,608 ♪ Possibly ♪ 615 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:42,048 ♪ I never knew for sure what a wonderful man he was ♪ 616 00:29:42,048 --> 00:29:43,482 So many great bands here. 617 00:29:44,817 --> 00:29:46,252 And it's just been a great time out here. 618 00:29:46,252 --> 00:29:47,619 The vibe is really positive. 619 00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:54,693 ♪ Quelle est cette ivresse qui nous entraine ♪ 620 00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:57,129 This year, they had so many different types of bands. 621 00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:58,965 And so, all the culture is coming together, 622 00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:01,400 and everybody just getting along and having fun. 623 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,969 At Lollapalooza, there's so many different 624 00:30:02,969 --> 00:30:04,236 genres of music. 625 00:30:04,236 --> 00:30:06,638 You have hip-hop, you have everything. 626 00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:11,377 And I be telling my homies, man, Chicago loves hip-hop. 627 00:30:13,612 --> 00:30:15,447 There was a great feeling 628 00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:18,717 back at Lollapalooza again in the mid-2000s, 629 00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:21,787 and I felt that it really brought back the spirit 630 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:24,756 of why it started, and I think they were nailing that. 631 00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:29,661 Lolla had now taken off. 632 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:33,265 We had Pearl Jam and Daft Punk in 2007, 633 00:30:33,265 --> 00:30:35,267 and the epic Daft Punk set with the pyramid. 634 00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:36,969 That was crazy. 635 00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:42,208 ♪ Around the world, around the world ♪ 636 00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:45,011 And then I think the Rage set in 2008 637 00:30:45,011 --> 00:30:47,446 was-- was the most legendary. 638 00:30:49,548 --> 00:30:51,918 The energy was wild. 639 00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:04,230 At this point, Lolla's doing 100,000-plus people. 640 00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:07,133 When Rage Against the Machine came back, 641 00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:10,469 the first note of "Killing in the Name..." 642 00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:11,971 ♪ Rock! ♪ 643 00:31:13,605 --> 00:31:16,943 The audience, the whole mass, boom. 644 00:31:16,943 --> 00:31:18,344 We got a problem. 645 00:31:21,847 --> 00:31:23,649 ♪ Killing in the name of ♪ 646 00:31:26,485 --> 00:31:29,188 I was at the front gate when they went on, 647 00:31:29,188 --> 00:31:31,523 and about that time, the front gate got stampeded 648 00:31:31,523 --> 00:31:33,759 by 200 or 300 kids from outside. 649 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:35,061 It was insanity. 650 00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:36,662 I mean, they were coming in every direction. 651 00:31:38,397 --> 00:31:40,933 ♪ Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me ♪ 652 00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:42,768 ♪ Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me ♪ 653 00:31:42,768 --> 00:31:44,203 You have a hook like, 654 00:31:44,203 --> 00:31:46,405 "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me," 655 00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:48,107 what do you think's gonna happen? 656 00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:49,942 That's a riot in a can. 657 00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:51,910 It was like something I had never seen before. 658 00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:54,113 The crowd just kept moving in, moving in. 659 00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:56,515 - They would stop the show. - Yo, yo, yo. 660 00:31:56,515 --> 00:31:58,917 Hold it, hold it, hold it. What's up? 661 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,153 Yo, you gotta take care. 662 00:32:01,153 --> 00:32:03,755 Please, please, take a few steps back. 663 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:05,191 Please. 664 00:32:07,994 --> 00:32:09,761 Y'all gonna be all right? 665 00:32:12,598 --> 00:32:15,034 Y'all gonna look out after one another tonight? 666 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,105 That's one of the things I love 667 00:32:19,105 --> 00:32:22,541 about Lollapalooza and this community that we have, 668 00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:24,076 is that you have to look out for each other. 669 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,616 It was one of my favorite nights 670 00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:33,219 - of rock and roll. - * Unh ♪ 671 00:32:33,219 --> 00:32:35,121 Playing at the height of our powers, 672 00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:38,424 rocking, you know, my hometown city furiously, 673 00:32:38,424 --> 00:32:40,659 celebrating this-- you know, a band 674 00:32:40,659 --> 00:32:42,561 that had been away for a while, and coming back, 675 00:32:42,561 --> 00:32:44,163 a festival that had been away for a while, 676 00:32:44,163 --> 00:32:45,731 coming back together, 677 00:32:45,731 --> 00:32:47,499 it was really, really pretty awesome. 678 00:32:47,499 --> 00:32:50,336 ♪ We found your weakness ♪ 679 00:32:50,336 --> 00:32:53,239 ♪ And it's right outside your door, now testify ♪ 680 00:32:54,473 --> 00:32:56,508 We definitely walk a fine line 681 00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:58,244 with keeping the traditions of Lolla 682 00:32:58,244 --> 00:33:00,479 and keeping the heart and soul of Lolla, 683 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:03,249 and making sure that it still feels like Lolla, 684 00:33:03,249 --> 00:33:05,551 but that we are growing with the times. 685 00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,220 Yeah, it looks good. 686 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:09,655 I like to change a lot, 687 00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:11,623 so I'm really into that. 688 00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:15,494 I hate when I see bands that are very talented, 689 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:18,097 and they're wearing t-shirts and jeans, 690 00:33:18,097 --> 00:33:19,665 and they're dirty, and they didn't shower-- 691 00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:20,932 unless it's grunge. 692 00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:24,603 We're so ready. Chicago's not ready. 693 00:33:24,603 --> 00:33:26,338 - I can't wait. - Chicago is not ready 694 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:27,739 for Gaga. 695 00:33:28,874 --> 00:33:30,276 Whoo! 696 00:33:30,276 --> 00:33:32,111 That girl is gonna kill herself. 697 00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:35,013 Don't you just hate it when your disco ball 698 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,149 won't fit in the overhead? 699 00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:41,953 ♪ Babe, last night you took me to the mall ♪ 700 00:33:41,953 --> 00:33:44,690 ♪ Then it started to get physical ♪ 701 00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,625 I think it is still a real vehicle 702 00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,294 for music discovery. 703 00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:52,498 All these random artists, you're gonna see some of them 704 00:33:52,498 --> 00:33:54,800 on really tiny stages 705 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,003 and be able to be close to them. 706 00:33:58,003 --> 00:34:00,906 My name is Lady Gaga. 707 00:34:07,613 --> 00:34:11,450 ♪ In your brown eyes ♪ 708 00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:13,552 ♪ I walked away ♪ 709 00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:15,454 I saw the first Gaga year. 710 00:34:15,454 --> 00:34:17,123 I didn't even know who she was. 711 00:34:17,123 --> 00:34:20,392 I was just walking past, like, what the fuck is this? 712 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:24,230 ♪ Don't be, don't be dirty ice cream ♪ 713 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,064 ♪ Don't be, don't be... ♪ 714 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,666 And I remember being like, 715 00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:29,301 oh, she's really got something. 716 00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:33,272 Emergency, there's something in the tracks! 717 00:34:35,341 --> 00:34:37,509 But then, Gaga goes and becomes 718 00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:39,111 the first pop headliner. 719 00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:46,285 From 1pm at the BMI stage, our smallest stage, 720 00:34:46,285 --> 00:34:47,953 and then three years later headlining 721 00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:49,355 - the main stage is... - It's wild. 722 00:34:49,355 --> 00:34:51,590 ♪ Ohh ♪ 723 00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:53,725 We did it, Little Monsters. 724 00:34:55,026 --> 00:35:00,266 We made it to the main stage at Lollapalooza. 725 00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:03,235 We made it to the Monster Ball! 726 00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:06,338 Gaga in some ways, kinda like Metallica, 727 00:35:06,338 --> 00:35:09,208 was really hotly debated internally. 728 00:35:09,208 --> 00:35:11,177 In some ways, we're still trying to hang on 729 00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:13,445 to this alternative ethos, right? 730 00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:15,414 It was stupid that we even thought that. 731 00:35:15,414 --> 00:35:17,383 She had a historic performance and killed it. 732 00:35:17,383 --> 00:35:18,917 ♪ Bad romance ♪ 733 00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:21,353 ♪ I want your love and I want your revenge ♪ 734 00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:25,791 ♪ You and me could write a bad romance ♪ 735 00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:29,861 ♪ I want your love and all your lover's revenge ♪ 736 00:35:29,861 --> 00:35:33,399 ♪ You and me could write a bad romance ♪ 737 00:35:33,399 --> 00:35:35,100 Jump! 738 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,603 Lolla really picks great people 739 00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:40,572 at great times in their career, 740 00:35:40,572 --> 00:35:43,909 like when they're-- when no one's heard of them, 741 00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:46,245 when they have millions of fans, when they're doing 742 00:35:46,245 --> 00:35:48,280 an anniversary, when they're, you know. 743 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,182 Just like, all these, like, 744 00:35:50,182 --> 00:35:52,017 key pivotal moments in my life, 745 00:35:52,017 --> 00:35:53,985 I kind of can even think about them 746 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:56,455 based on, like, this Lolla time plot. 747 00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:59,458 You know, it's a-- it's a deep thing. 748 00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:04,430 My first Lolla experience was insane. 749 00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:07,966 Like 12 of us rode down to Grant Park. 750 00:36:07,966 --> 00:36:09,735 Obviously, none of us had tickets, right? 751 00:36:09,735 --> 00:36:11,503 Tickets for Lolla are impossible, 752 00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:13,639 especially when you're broke and a teenager. 753 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:15,974 But there's all these different licks, 754 00:36:15,974 --> 00:36:17,743 like you know, going over the bridge. 755 00:36:17,743 --> 00:36:19,311 Man, let's go, let's go! 756 00:36:19,311 --> 00:36:20,712 Rushing the gate. 757 00:36:21,813 --> 00:36:26,151 So, there was a gate push, and everybody starts running in. 758 00:36:26,151 --> 00:36:29,020 Once we get over, like, everybody starts splitting up, 759 00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:31,290 running in different directions. 760 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:32,858 I went straight through a crowd, 761 00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:34,993 and I remember somebody out of nowhere hogged me. 762 00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:37,095 Straight spear to the side of the body, 763 00:36:37,095 --> 00:36:39,365 and I'm just like, basically paralyzed 764 00:36:39,365 --> 00:36:40,732 on the ground. 765 00:36:40,732 --> 00:36:43,001 And they pick me up or whatever, 766 00:36:43,001 --> 00:36:45,371 and they was about to do me so dirty. 767 00:36:45,371 --> 00:36:47,539 But luckily, the people that were in the crowd, 768 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,475 they was like, "Let him go, let him go!" 769 00:36:49,475 --> 00:36:51,877 And I was able to just, like, walk out 770 00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:54,045 with this other security dude. 771 00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:57,916 And he was so cool that he let me 772 00:36:57,916 --> 00:36:59,751 post up in the festival. 773 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,125 One of, like, the craziest days of my life. 774 00:37:09,094 --> 00:37:11,897 I saw Beirut in person at Lolla 775 00:37:11,897 --> 00:37:14,500 and sampled them on my first project. 776 00:37:15,967 --> 00:37:17,769 And the next year, I was up there. 777 00:37:19,805 --> 00:37:23,309 And we came back in 2014, it was Perry's Stage. 778 00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:26,244 I was really proud 'cause I got to produce a show 779 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:27,679 for the first time. 780 00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:29,915 Tapped into all the, like, Chicago foot workers 781 00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:33,051 and dancers, and like, had it set up in separate acts. 782 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:39,591 2017 has already been no problem 783 00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:40,959 for Chance the Rapper. 784 00:37:40,959 --> 00:37:43,529 And the Grammy goes to... 785 00:37:43,529 --> 00:37:45,597 And the Grammy goes to... 786 00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:48,300 And the Grammy goes to... 787 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:50,068 Chance the Rapper! 788 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:54,540 ♪ Am I the only nigga still care about mixtapes ♪ 789 00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:57,275 Here we go. One, two, 790 00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,110 one, two, three, go! 791 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:02,113 ♪ Am I the only nigga still care about mixtapes ♪ 792 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:03,482 I'm already hyped up on the fact 793 00:38:03,482 --> 00:38:06,718 that I brought three trophies home to the crib. 794 00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:08,387 Like, that's a big deal, and like, 795 00:38:08,387 --> 00:38:09,888 people really campaigned for it. 796 00:38:09,888 --> 00:38:13,291 Like, Chicago really was like, really wanted me to win. 797 00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:15,026 It was a big thing. 798 00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:18,597 Hands up! 799 00:38:18,597 --> 00:38:22,401 ♪ Bad little bitch wanna know how the lips taste ♪ 800 00:38:24,703 --> 00:38:27,906 Lolla's definitely a mainstay for Chicago at this point. 801 00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:29,975 It's a big deal for Chicagoans, 802 00:38:29,975 --> 00:38:31,610 and we all know when it's coming, 803 00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:33,545 like, you know, the traffic's gonna be fucked up, 804 00:38:33,545 --> 00:38:35,481 like, where all these tourists are coming in. 805 00:38:35,481 --> 00:38:37,483 But your ass gonna end up there, 806 00:38:37,483 --> 00:38:38,917 you know what I'm saying, you're gonna figure out a way 807 00:38:38,917 --> 00:38:40,318 to get a ticket last minute. 808 00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:42,988 ♪ Am I the only nigga still care about... ♪ 809 00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,090 I spent my whole life here, 810 00:38:45,090 --> 00:38:47,225 and now I'm here, you know... 811 00:38:48,494 --> 00:38:51,597 and just in a-- in a different standing. 812 00:38:51,597 --> 00:38:54,299 ♪ I'm a kid in a candy shop! ♪ 813 00:38:54,299 --> 00:38:56,702 At this point, it's a Chicago thing, 814 00:38:56,702 --> 00:38:59,705 and it's-- I don't see any time soon 815 00:38:59,705 --> 00:39:03,842 when it won't be here. 816 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,490 I just remember how quickly it happened. 817 00:39:18,490 --> 00:39:22,160 I see this news item of something out there going on, 818 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,496 and I think it's just a bird flu thing, right? 819 00:39:24,496 --> 00:39:25,831 Like, it's never gonna get here, 820 00:39:25,831 --> 00:39:27,365 it's never gonna affect anything. 821 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:29,000 And then, like, two days later, 822 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,037 I'm hearing, like, every show's canceling. 823 00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:35,407 Fuck, right? We are really fucked here. 824 00:39:35,407 --> 00:39:37,643 There was to be nothing in '20. 825 00:39:41,447 --> 00:39:43,314 Music and entertaining 826 00:39:43,314 --> 00:39:46,885 has always been in my blood. 827 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:51,823 When I was a little boy, I used to sing for people. 828 00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:55,927 I started singing before I actually could form words. 829 00:39:55,927 --> 00:40:00,365 So, my first song was called "Alaboony Ratsanoody." 830 00:40:00,365 --> 00:40:07,138 ♪ Alaboony, alaboony ♪ 831 00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:11,543 ♪ Ratsanoody-noody-noody, alaboony-boony-boony ♪ 832 00:40:11,543 --> 00:40:14,145 And I'd go around the neighborhood 833 00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:15,981 singing songs to people. 834 00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:23,522 In fact, my true last name is Baerenstecher, 835 00:40:23,522 --> 00:40:25,524 which means "handsome entertainer." 836 00:40:28,594 --> 00:40:34,032 The live, "get up there, man, and rock our world"? 837 00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:38,970 Man, nothing like it. 838 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:44,910 But in an instant, and with a blink of an eye, it went away. 839 00:40:44,910 --> 00:40:47,946 And I felt sad for the world. 840 00:40:47,946 --> 00:40:50,882 ♪ We'll make great pets ♪ 841 00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:55,420 After a year off due to the pandemic, 842 00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,756 concerts could be back in Chicago this summer 843 00:40:57,756 --> 00:41:00,025 if COVID cases keep going down. 844 00:41:00,025 --> 00:41:03,361 I started getting asked questions about Lolla 845 00:41:03,361 --> 00:41:05,130 back in early spring. 846 00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:06,932 "Is it happening? Is it happening?" 847 00:41:06,932 --> 00:41:08,634 With amazing regularity. 848 00:41:08,634 --> 00:41:12,437 This is a big deal in Chicago. 849 00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:16,808 It is definitely part of the DNA of who we are as a city. 850 00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:19,945 And businesses benefit from having 851 00:41:19,945 --> 00:41:23,081 this iconic music festival here in Chicago. 852 00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:25,617 So, listen, I just talked to the doctor, 853 00:41:25,617 --> 00:41:27,418 and she's giving us the green light. 854 00:41:27,418 --> 00:41:29,320 What do you think? 855 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,956 - Etty? - Yes? 856 00:41:32,090 --> 00:41:33,491 - It's on. 857 00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:36,795 - Yes! Whoo! - Lollapalooza! Ooh! 858 00:41:51,442 --> 00:41:53,712 Normally, it takes a full 12 to 14 months 859 00:41:53,712 --> 00:41:56,181 to plan out a Lollapalooza Chicago. 860 00:41:56,181 --> 00:41:58,349 When we got the greenlight from the mayor, 861 00:41:58,349 --> 00:42:00,652 we had 12 weeks until show day. 862 00:42:03,388 --> 00:42:06,224 Our staff was depleted, we were at about 15% or 20% 863 00:42:06,224 --> 00:42:08,594 of what our full-time staff was at that time. 864 00:42:08,594 --> 00:42:11,096 To be able to go from really zero 865 00:42:11,096 --> 00:42:13,865 to producing one of the first festivals in the world 866 00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:17,102 coming out of COVID was a massive undertaking. 867 00:42:17,102 --> 00:42:18,436 Thursday's the big day, 868 00:42:18,436 --> 00:42:19,805 the start of thousands of people 869 00:42:19,805 --> 00:42:22,307 taking over Grant Park for Lollapalooza daily. 870 00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:24,676 COVID cases are on the rise across the country. 871 00:42:24,676 --> 00:42:26,477 That has prompted Lolla organizers 872 00:42:26,477 --> 00:42:29,414 to require all attendees to either be fully vaccinated 873 00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:31,016 or have a negative COVID test 874 00:42:31,016 --> 00:42:33,585 within 72 hours of their attendance. 875 00:42:33,585 --> 00:42:35,654 I feel confident that the Lolla folks 876 00:42:35,654 --> 00:42:37,923 have a good solid plan in place, 877 00:42:37,923 --> 00:42:39,858 and we're gonna obviously hold them accountable 878 00:42:39,858 --> 00:42:42,493 to make sure that that plan is enforced. 879 00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:44,996 There's a lot of risk. Lori took a lot of risk. 880 00:42:44,996 --> 00:42:46,431 Local government took a lot of risk, 881 00:42:46,431 --> 00:42:47,699 C3 took a lot of risk. 882 00:42:47,699 --> 00:42:50,368 Nobody knew what it was gonna be. 883 00:42:51,637 --> 00:42:53,038 It's gonna be interesting to see 884 00:42:53,038 --> 00:42:56,507 how much fun we could have while being so safe. 885 00:42:57,943 --> 00:43:00,111 It went from like, "Oh my God, 886 00:43:00,111 --> 00:43:02,580 Gibby Haynes is blowing off shotguns," 887 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:06,551 to now like, "I'm checking to see if you're vaccinated." 888 00:43:06,551 --> 00:43:09,154 But it is what it is, man. 889 00:43:15,661 --> 00:43:17,328 We went to the last Lollapalooza. 890 00:43:17,328 --> 00:43:20,632 It was like the best weekend literally, like, ever. 891 00:43:20,632 --> 00:43:22,333 That was the one thing I was looking forward to, 892 00:43:22,333 --> 00:43:24,235 like, during COVID, like, till like, 893 00:43:24,235 --> 00:43:26,137 for this festival to come back. 894 00:43:26,137 --> 00:43:28,139 - We got vaccinated. - Vaccinated. 895 00:43:28,139 --> 00:43:30,742 We're hoping for the best, you know. 896 00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:33,444 Lolla, baby! 897 00:43:34,780 --> 00:43:36,214 Because of this pandemic, 898 00:43:36,214 --> 00:43:38,583 we've been ready to, like, get back in the action 899 00:43:38,583 --> 00:43:40,418 and feel the music again. 900 00:43:40,418 --> 00:43:43,254 And I've always wanted to come to Lollapalooza. 901 00:43:43,254 --> 00:43:45,390 - Yeah? - But Miley as the headliner 902 00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:48,894 was the-- the sign that this was my year to come. 903 00:43:48,894 --> 00:43:50,829 I need to be front row to see Miley. 904 00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:53,598 I've watched her since "Hannah Montana." 905 00:43:53,598 --> 00:43:55,266 I just think that you look at Miley Cyrus, 906 00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:56,567 and she's like a deity. 907 00:43:56,567 --> 00:43:58,336 I'm dripping sweat, and I'm here for her. 908 00:43:58,336 --> 00:44:00,538 -I know. 909 00:44:00,538 --> 00:44:04,542 What's up? What's up, Lollapalooza? 910 00:44:04,542 --> 00:44:07,946 I'm gonna need y'all to make some noise! 911 00:44:07,946 --> 00:44:09,480 Huh? 912 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,850 ♪ I'd drop my nuts on a hater ♪ 913 00:44:11,850 --> 00:44:13,651 ♪ Fuckin' these hoes, I'm a player ♪ 914 00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:15,286 ♪ VVS chains, watches and rings ♪ 915 00:44:15,286 --> 00:44:17,022 ♪ Blowin' that kush on a acre ♪ 916 00:44:17,022 --> 00:44:19,390 It felt like a community project. 917 00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:20,892 Like everybody just coming together 918 00:44:20,892 --> 00:44:22,360 to make that shit work, 'cause we needed 919 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,495 to get out of the house, we needed to get drunk. 920 00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:26,164 Like, we needed to have fun, you know what I'm saying? 921 00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:27,632 Listen to some good music 922 00:44:27,632 --> 00:44:29,500 on some crazy-ass big-ass speakers. 923 00:44:33,571 --> 00:44:35,206 The motherfucking goat. 924 00:44:35,206 --> 00:44:38,209 Chano in the building. My real brother. 925 00:44:38,209 --> 00:44:40,879 Hey, Chicago, make some fucking noise for G Herbo! 926 00:44:42,547 --> 00:44:45,884 What this goes to say about live music... 927 00:44:45,884 --> 00:44:51,089 Lollapalooza! What the fuck is up?! 928 00:44:52,123 --> 00:44:55,193 When people get together to celebrate life. 929 00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:57,362 Let me hear you say "Whoo, ahh!" 930 00:44:57,362 --> 00:44:58,629 Whoo, ahh! 931 00:44:58,629 --> 00:45:00,766 The world will never grow tired. 932 00:45:00,766 --> 00:45:03,701 You mean the fucking world to me. 933 00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:07,005 I always wanted the people to feel 934 00:45:07,005 --> 00:45:10,475 like it was theirs and not mine. 935 00:45:12,577 --> 00:45:15,747 To be able to mesmerize, and hypnotize, 936 00:45:15,747 --> 00:45:21,019 and raise the consciousness of 100,000 people? 937 00:45:21,019 --> 00:45:23,021 Just imagine that. 938 00:45:28,226 --> 00:45:31,997 ♪ Never loved nobody harder, never, ever felt stronger ♪ 939 00:45:31,997 --> 00:45:34,165 It's so important to see music live. 940 00:45:34,165 --> 00:45:35,733 Like, it's so important, 941 00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:37,202 and it shows the truth of an artist. 942 00:45:37,202 --> 00:45:39,204 See them in the flesh, and like, 943 00:45:39,204 --> 00:45:41,172 be in connection with them. 944 00:45:41,172 --> 00:45:42,740 There's nothing like that. 945 00:45:51,649 --> 00:45:54,953 People come here to connect. 946 00:45:54,953 --> 00:45:56,955 During COVID, we learned to connect with our friends 947 00:45:56,955 --> 00:45:59,724 and family, and that's beautiful. 948 00:45:59,724 --> 00:46:02,727 But there's something amazing about connecting 949 00:46:02,727 --> 00:46:04,595 with people you don't know. 950 00:46:11,069 --> 00:46:13,839 This is the thing I live-- I live for. 951 00:46:16,307 --> 00:46:19,410 Lollapalooza has always allowed for a lot 952 00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:22,613 of different genres and walks of life. 953 00:46:24,015 --> 00:46:28,186 As an artist, I love to play to people 954 00:46:28,186 --> 00:46:30,388 that would be like, "I heard of Steve Aoki, 955 00:46:30,388 --> 00:46:33,724 but I would have never gone to a concert." 956 00:46:33,724 --> 00:46:35,460 That they're like a Miley Cyrus fan, 957 00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:38,463 they're like, "I wanna go see him play for a little bit." 958 00:46:38,463 --> 00:46:40,231 I love that. 959 00:46:40,231 --> 00:46:42,667 Miley! Miley! 960 00:46:46,404 --> 00:46:48,239 I wanna talk to y'all for a second. 961 00:46:50,976 --> 00:46:53,178 I think it was a very humbling experience 962 00:46:53,178 --> 00:46:56,481 for all of us to be humanized together 963 00:46:56,481 --> 00:46:58,783 and experience the last year and a half, 964 00:46:58,783 --> 00:47:00,618 the pain of being disconnected. 965 00:47:00,618 --> 00:47:02,687 And I think we remembered the value 966 00:47:02,687 --> 00:47:05,056 of having one another in our lives. 967 00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:07,926 Because sometimes we take that shit for granted. 968 00:47:09,527 --> 00:47:11,629 We're here, we made it through. 969 00:47:11,629 --> 00:47:13,731 It's not how we saw it, not how we planned it, 970 00:47:13,731 --> 00:47:15,666 not exactly how we wanted it. 971 00:47:15,666 --> 00:47:17,202 But there's light at the end of the tunnel, 972 00:47:17,202 --> 00:47:20,371 and Lollapalooza is that light for many of us. 973 00:47:26,544 --> 00:47:27,979 Hey! 974 00:47:29,414 --> 00:47:34,819 ♪ I can almost see it, that dream I'm dreaming ♪ 975 00:47:34,819 --> 00:47:38,023 ♪ But there's a voice inside my head ♪ 976 00:47:38,023 --> 00:47:41,792 ♪ Saying, "You'll never reach it" ♪ 977 00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:46,998 ♪ Every step I'm taking, every move I make ♪ 978 00:47:46,998 --> 00:47:50,501 ♪ Feels lost with no direction ♪ 979 00:47:50,501 --> 00:47:52,170 We thought we were gonna be all right, 980 00:47:52,170 --> 00:47:54,505 and we prayed we wouldn't be a super-spreader, 981 00:47:54,505 --> 00:47:55,773 which we weren't. 982 00:47:55,773 --> 00:47:57,708 It was a big moment I think for the industry 983 00:47:57,708 --> 00:48:03,248 to like, "This can happen, let's go." 984 00:48:05,216 --> 00:48:08,453 After COVID, coming back is absolutely 985 00:48:08,453 --> 00:48:10,255 the biggest challenge I've ever had with the event. 986 00:48:10,255 --> 00:48:12,823 But I think we, as festival producers, 987 00:48:12,823 --> 00:48:14,192 really thrive on the challenges. 988 00:48:16,494 --> 00:48:18,596 And that's really in full force 989 00:48:18,596 --> 00:48:20,565 when we do the international Lollas. 990 00:48:20,565 --> 00:48:24,970 While Chicago became bigger and established, 991 00:48:24,970 --> 00:48:28,506 I was pretty adamant that we push internationally, 992 00:48:28,506 --> 00:48:31,176 that we take this festival we created 993 00:48:31,176 --> 00:48:32,944 and start to go to places 994 00:48:32,944 --> 00:48:35,246 where festivals like this didn't. 995 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,791 ♪ Come on, come on, come on, come on ♪ 996 00:48:46,791 --> 00:48:48,293 Lolla was one of the first festivals 997 00:48:48,293 --> 00:48:51,396 to go to South America in 2011, 998 00:48:51,396 --> 00:48:53,131 working with our partners Lotus, 999 00:48:53,131 --> 00:48:55,600 the young Charlies of Chile down there. 1000 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,435 They do concerts all the time, they do arena shows. 1001 00:48:57,435 --> 00:48:59,337 It's not like concerts are rare, 1002 00:48:59,337 --> 00:49:02,373 but festivals were not a normal thing for them. 1003 00:49:03,674 --> 00:49:05,143 Este es un grand festival! 1004 00:49:05,143 --> 00:49:07,345 But they've never had a multi-genre, 1005 00:49:07,345 --> 00:49:11,382 multi-stage festival, and it's really cool 1006 00:49:11,382 --> 00:49:14,119 to see people together experiencing that 1007 00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:16,154 for the first time. 1008 00:49:16,154 --> 00:49:18,389 - Go out there and tear it up. - I will. 1009 00:49:18,389 --> 00:49:19,724 All right, we'll be watching. 1010 00:49:19,724 --> 00:49:21,526 I will. Oh my God. 1011 00:49:21,526 --> 00:49:24,629 I want the greatest musicians 1012 00:49:24,629 --> 00:49:27,632 to be heard and seen. 1013 00:49:27,632 --> 00:49:32,537 And I want every nation to be able to experience that. 1014 00:49:38,076 --> 00:49:40,778 Chile was first, and then that expanded 1015 00:49:40,778 --> 00:49:42,713 into Argentina and Brazil. 1016 00:49:42,713 --> 00:49:45,216 And then the European expansion from there-- 1017 00:49:45,216 --> 00:49:47,352 Berlin, Stockholm, Paris, 1018 00:49:47,352 --> 00:49:49,587 up until this past year with Lolla Mumbai. 1019 00:49:55,626 --> 00:49:57,495 Mumbai is like a whole different ballgame, right? 1020 00:49:57,495 --> 00:49:59,497 Mumbai is, you know, booking a market 1021 00:49:59,497 --> 00:50:01,166 that very few bands have played, 1022 00:50:01,166 --> 00:50:02,900 very difficult to get to. 1023 00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:06,404 That one probably has the most logistical challenges, 1024 00:50:06,404 --> 00:50:09,174 just getting stuff to India, and the artists to India. 1025 00:50:09,174 --> 00:50:11,242 But we were fortunate to find a great partner there 1026 00:50:11,242 --> 00:50:12,843 who wanted to do Lolla with us. 1027 00:50:13,911 --> 00:50:17,382 ♪ I don't wanna talk anymore, wanna walk anymore ♪ 1028 00:50:17,382 --> 00:50:20,385 ♪ Tell my stories to no one ♪ 1029 00:50:20,385 --> 00:50:24,021 ♪ I don't wanna talk anymore, wanna walk anymore ♪ 1030 00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:26,557 ♪ Share my stories with no one ♪ 1031 00:50:26,557 --> 00:50:31,229 Let's bring great real music 1032 00:50:31,229 --> 00:50:33,598 to the world. 1033 00:50:33,598 --> 00:50:37,368 That's what this has become. 1034 00:50:37,368 --> 00:50:40,105 India-- probably the best first-year show we've done, 1035 00:50:40,105 --> 00:50:42,440 and we'll be back next year. 1036 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,075 We've got a few other cities on the radar, 1037 00:50:44,075 --> 00:50:45,443 and then we'll keep growing. 1038 00:50:45,443 --> 00:50:47,278 ♪ That I'm a bad liar ♪ 1039 00:50:47,278 --> 00:50:49,880 It's fun just to be able to kinda, like, 1040 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,782 reinvent yourself everywhere. 1041 00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:56,454 To bring something like Lollapalooza 1042 00:50:56,454 --> 00:50:59,023 around the world, besides my family, 1043 00:50:59,023 --> 00:51:01,792 it's one of the greatest honors of my life. 1044 00:51:03,294 --> 00:51:06,797 ♪ I can feel ♪ 1045 00:51:06,797 --> 00:51:10,401 ♪ Your breath ♪ 1046 00:51:10,401 --> 00:51:12,637 It, like, started out as this farewell tour, 1047 00:51:12,637 --> 00:51:15,506 but it's still a culture-changing event. 1048 00:51:16,874 --> 00:51:19,410 ♪ I want to go ♪ 1049 00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:21,078 Lasted and changed people's lives 1050 00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:25,082 and put millions of smiles on people's faces. 1051 00:51:25,082 --> 00:51:28,453 And I'm sure it will continue for years to come. 1052 00:51:29,554 --> 00:51:31,622 Lollapalooza, Saturday night! 1053 00:51:31,622 --> 00:51:35,193 Get off your feet, let's go! One, two, three, go! 1054 00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:42,267 ♪ Ooh, ooh, hey ♪ 1055 00:51:49,374 --> 00:51:51,776 How many words become synonymous 1056 00:51:51,776 --> 00:51:53,244 with an experience? 1057 00:51:53,244 --> 00:51:56,147 Everybody knows what Lollapalooza means, 1058 00:51:56,147 --> 00:51:58,916 even if they haven't been to a Lollapalooza. 1059 00:51:58,916 --> 00:52:03,288 There are certain elements that live in our zeitgeist 1060 00:52:03,288 --> 00:52:05,323 that are just timeless. 1061 00:52:18,369 --> 00:52:20,738 Metallica. 1062 00:52:20,738 --> 00:52:23,374 Now, I can tell you I was wrong. 1063 00:52:23,374 --> 00:52:28,145 I've come to know those guys, have become friends with them. 1064 00:52:31,048 --> 00:52:33,984 The relationship is one of not just a friendship, 1065 00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:36,821 but one of just respect and admiration. 1066 00:52:38,523 --> 00:52:43,661 All of us that have endured 30 or 40 years 1067 00:52:43,661 --> 00:52:47,965 doing what we're doing, we form a kinship. 1068 00:52:47,965 --> 00:52:50,235 Anybody who's still left standing, 1069 00:52:50,235 --> 00:52:53,971 I think you share something mutual with. 1070 00:52:55,973 --> 00:53:00,811 Twenty-six years ago in 1996, 1071 00:53:00,811 --> 00:53:04,249 Lollapalooza took a chance on inviting Metallica. 1072 00:53:04,249 --> 00:53:07,652 Thank you, Perry. Thank you, C3. 1073 00:53:07,652 --> 00:53:09,820 Thank you, Chicago, for having us. 1074 00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:12,857 We fucking love you. We will see you very soon. 1075 00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:20,197 Now that, you know, I'm becoming sophisticated 1076 00:53:20,197 --> 00:53:22,199 in my 60s... 1077 00:53:23,668 --> 00:53:27,538 we can really, really, really do some amazing things 1078 00:53:27,538 --> 00:53:30,808 with this beautiful vehicle that we've built. 1079 00:53:32,977 --> 00:53:37,815 I just don't want this festival of expression 1080 00:53:37,815 --> 00:53:42,653 to turn into something that you build with analytics. 1081 00:53:43,854 --> 00:53:49,960 I only-- I add everything up just with my heart. 1082 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,896 I'm not a great mathematician. 1083 00:53:51,896 --> 00:53:53,964 Or am I? 1084 00:53:59,470 --> 00:54:02,039 Perry went through a lot of different phases. 1085 00:54:04,008 --> 00:54:07,111 I think he didn't accept Lolla for a long time, 1086 00:54:07,111 --> 00:54:10,281 because for Perry, anything that got big 1087 00:54:10,281 --> 00:54:13,384 or possibly commercial was a stain on his art. 1088 00:54:14,485 --> 00:54:19,056 I think over time, he accepted what he had created. 1089 00:54:21,058 --> 00:54:22,693 ICE-T: He's a pioneer, he wants to do 1090 00:54:22,693 --> 00:54:24,629 what hasn't been done. 1091 00:54:24,629 --> 00:54:27,798 His real happiness is his creating new shit. 1092 00:54:27,798 --> 00:54:29,166 That's an artist. 1093 00:54:29,166 --> 00:54:31,836 At a young age, he knew what moved him. 1094 00:54:31,836 --> 00:54:33,304 He went for it. 1095 00:54:33,304 --> 00:54:35,340 He had his own sense of rhythm and phrasing, 1096 00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:37,375 and what was cool, and he did it. 1097 00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:39,810 And it's unlike anything else. 1098 00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:44,114 One of the most dangerous living artists 1099 00:54:44,114 --> 00:54:46,150 that ever stalked the Venice Boardwalk 1100 00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:47,985 really made something that, you know, 1101 00:54:47,985 --> 00:54:50,755 will sort of transcend our time. 1102 00:54:50,755 --> 00:54:53,458 The music landscape would be completely different 1103 00:54:53,458 --> 00:54:55,326 if Lollapalooza didn't exist. 1104 00:54:55,326 --> 00:54:57,895 It really helped a lot of people, a lot of bands. 1105 00:54:59,163 --> 00:55:00,765 Lollapalooza shifted culture in a way 1106 00:55:00,765 --> 00:55:04,969 that I don't think a single band on its own could have. 1107 00:55:04,969 --> 00:55:06,637 It was good for music. 1108 00:55:06,637 --> 00:55:08,906 It was good for weird teens. 1109 00:55:10,207 --> 00:55:12,510 It's something I'm proud and grateful to be-- 1110 00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:14,879 have been involved in, and happy to see 1111 00:55:14,879 --> 00:55:18,282 that it's turned into the kind of part 1112 00:55:18,282 --> 00:55:20,150 of American culture that it is-- 1113 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:21,752 world culture that it is. 1114 00:55:21,752 --> 00:55:24,655 To those of us that were there at the time, 1115 00:55:24,655 --> 00:55:27,057 we all needed it. 1116 00:55:27,057 --> 00:55:30,828 A bunch of people came together creatively, 1117 00:55:30,828 --> 00:55:33,531 professionally, and most importantly, as fans, 1118 00:55:33,531 --> 00:55:35,032 when there was no other way 1119 00:55:35,032 --> 00:55:36,467 for us to connect to each other. 1120 00:55:37,802 --> 00:55:41,606 No matter how successful, no matter how commercial, 1121 00:55:41,606 --> 00:55:42,873 there's a soul, there's a spirit, 1122 00:55:42,873 --> 00:55:47,044 there's a DNA that surrounds Lollapalooza 1123 00:55:47,044 --> 00:55:50,381 that is rooted in the beautiful soul 1124 00:55:50,381 --> 00:55:52,483 that Perry is. 1125 00:55:53,951 --> 00:55:56,987 Lollapalooza's a gift, it really is. 1126 00:55:56,987 --> 00:55:59,990 I'll always be very, very proud 1127 00:55:59,990 --> 00:56:02,292 that I... 1128 00:56:04,429 --> 00:56:08,265 gave a stage to these artists. 1129 00:56:09,934 --> 00:56:14,004 No matter what happens, it was a wondrous event. 1130 00:56:14,004 --> 00:56:18,275 It's wondrous that it happened on this Earth. 1131 00:56:22,647 --> 00:56:25,783 ♪ Gimme back that automobile, turn off that smokestack ♪ 1132 00:56:25,783 --> 00:56:28,385 ♪ And that goddamn radio ♪ 1133 00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:33,090 ♪ Hum along with me, hum along with the TV ♪ 1134 00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:37,261 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 1135 00:56:37,261 --> 00:56:41,499 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, no ♪ 1136 00:56:42,733 --> 00:56:45,570 ♪ No one's! ♪ 1137 00:56:47,337 --> 00:56:49,106 ♪ Gonna! ♪ 1138 00:56:50,475 --> 00:56:51,976 ♪ Stop! ♪ 82395

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