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♪ MTV ♪
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Hi, I'm Alison Stewart
with an MTV News brief,
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coming to you from
the rehearsal site
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from the very first
Lollapalooza '95 date,
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three and a half hours
outside of Seattle.
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Most bands have been
driving in.
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Beck was here rehearsing
last night,
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as were headliners
Sonic Youth.
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This morning,
Sinead had a two-hour...
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Let me pick it up
on "this morning."
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Oh, I should do it
all the way through once.
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Yeah.
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When you started
with the first Lollapalooza,
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did you ever think
that it'd be as popular
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as it is today,
like a worldwide name?
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You know what, I never
considered worldwide name.
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You got the call
that said, "Hey,
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would you folks
headline Lollapalooza?"
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Well, we thought, you know,
that if Pavement did it
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and Beck does it, we'll do it.
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- We flipped coins.
- And Beck said...
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- They all came up heads.
- ...he was gonna do it
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- if you do it...
- "Well, I'll do it
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- if you and Beck do it."
- We'll all do it together.
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Pavement's like the guys
down the hall
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in the dorm or something,
and then Sonic Youth
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are kinda like the parents.
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And we like little Beck,
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'cause he's like
the little kid brother
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of the tour, I think.
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This is how much money
I'm making, look.
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20 bucks.
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Who would you
come to see if you guys
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were just, like,
taking the summer off?
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Sinead.
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- Really?
- Yeah.
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You mention
that you liked Hole.
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Fuck you!
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Anyone else you're interested
in trying to get into?
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Cypress Hill.
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- Sinead O'Connor.
- Yeah.
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- Really?
- Yeah.
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- Why?
- She's just out there
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on her own level.
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♪ Give you a shave ♪
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I think
it got so big in '94
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that they wanted to be
more indie-based in '95.
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In terms of your set,
is it gonna be the hits?
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Sonic Youth
doesn't really have hits.
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I think "Kool Thing"
was a hit.
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"Kool Thing" was all right...
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Yeah.
Hits are for squares.
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We decided
we should go back
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to college radio roots
and punk roots,
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and we purposefully
went very left.
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But is it possible
to go backwards
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and be successful?
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♪ What'd he say ♪
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♪ I don't wanna ♪
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♪ I don't think so ♪
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♪ I don't wanna ♪
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♪ I don't think so ♪
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One, two, three,
in the place to be.
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What's up, this is
Brother Question
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representing The Roots,
live from Lollapalooza '95.
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♪ I shall proceed, hey ♪
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♪ And continue
to rock the mic ♪
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♪ Proceed, proceed,
proceed, you know what ♪
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Which Lollapalooza
has been the best for you?
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Gosh, I don't know,
they've all been really good.
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- Yeah?
- I don't know-- whoops.
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Do you think the idea
of the tour has changed?
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- Um...
- Here you go.
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No, it's just gotten
to be more popular.
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I like
the alternative bands,
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you know, rather than...
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you know, they don't have
any trendy bands
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or anything like that,
so that's really good.
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I remember in Chicago, we're
at the World Amphitheater.
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The second stage
was in the parking lot.
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So, The Jesus Lizard
is on the main stage
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playing maybe
to 800 or so people.
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♪ Jazz is a slut again,
jazz is a slut again ♪
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♪ Jass is a slut again ♪
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And Coolio's playing
to 18,000 people
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in the parking lot.
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In a way, to have
The Jesus Lizard,
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to have these acts
that probably were more suited
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for the second stage,
carry the whole thing,
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I thought
wasn't fair for them.
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By that point,
there was definitely much more
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of a "let's party" contingent.
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Pavement's getting pelted
with clods of dirt
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by people who are like,
"What the fuck is this?"
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If you're coming
to Lollapalooza
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because you thought
fucking Rage was awesome
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and you wanna see
the Rage of tomorrow,
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and instead,
someone hands you Pavement?
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You're gonna be like,
"What's this sissy shit?"
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Ooh,
what a rough show that was.
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It was a good idea on paper,
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you know, really good bands
and, you know.
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But I think that year
was probably the downfall
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of Lollapalooza.
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That was the year
we didn't sell out every show.
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I hate this fucking place!
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I remember the press
in '94 slagging us,
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saying Lollapalooza
has lost it.
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It should have been
Hole and Sonic Youth.
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Hello?
Hello?
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Hey, you guys okay?
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The next year,
we had Hole and Sonic Youth,
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and the same press
said Lollapalooza's a rip-off,
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there's no headliner.
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♪ I went away to see
an old friend of mine ♪
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And did you ever
have any doubts
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about this year's festival
at all, Perry?
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-Doubts?
- Yeah, like doubts like...
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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I think there'll be
next year's Lollapalooza
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will be--
it's gotta get better.
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A week that
brought the official word
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that Metallica, one of
the biggest rock bands
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in the world, will headline
the 1996 edition
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of Lollapalooza,
traditionally a showcase
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for less imposingly
successful bands.
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I did not like
what I saw.
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I just didn't think
they were alternative music.
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Metallica's one
of the best bands on Earth,
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certainly one of the best
live bands.
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And sadly, got in a pretty
strong argument over it.
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I felt disrespected.
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I'm not putting
this thing together to--
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to make the most money.
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I'm putting this thing
together to--
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to make the most joy.
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I felt like, okay,
so now you giants
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are gonna try to, like,
trample me.
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That was it, I told 'em
I didn't wanna have anything
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to do with the year.
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They're criticized
because it's like,
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they're saying, "Well,
this isn't alternative music."
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Alternative music, Ted?
What do you think?
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- A oft, overused, dead...
- Finished.
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- Uh, ancient.
- It's something
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- new, creative.
- Misused.
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Let's get something
new and creative,
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and we'll put on
a show with it.
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I hate it.
It's like, it used to be like,
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a whole lot of small bands.
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Like, six years ago, this was
the different thing to do.
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Now, it's the normal
thing to do.
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Have you noticed that there's
not a lot of girls here?
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Yeah.
That's good for us.
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Come the fuck on, baby!
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When we were
asked to come
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and play Lollapalooza '96,
I mean, we didn't bat an eye.
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It was, "Well, of course.
Fuck yeah."
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We felt that we came out
of a punk aesthetic.
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We felt that we came
out of an alternative world.
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We felt that we had
never belonged,
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and you know, we had
always felt a kinship
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to anybody
that was doing anything
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outside of the mainstream.
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♪ I'm sent here
by the chosen one ♪
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Give it to me!
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Everyone I know in the
underground likes Metallica.
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There's no-- it's like
Metallica and everybody else,
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as far as that genre, for me.
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It's like, they're the best,
so why shouldn't they play it?
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♪ Yes, I'm creeping death,
ah! ♪
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The one thing
that we shared
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with our alternative
brothers and sisters
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was that we all felt
that we were trying
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to chart our own path
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and not play the game
of the industry
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or of the record business.
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But did they wear flannel
and we didn't?
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Fine, if that's where
you wanna separate us.
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But I never associated it
with like a musical style.
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In the past, we had gone
out of our way
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to explain how
we didn't want to be limited
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to one particular thing
musically.
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There is
this dip in 1995
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where it was almost like
Lollapalooza's public apology
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for not being cool enough.
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And then in 1996,
Lollapalooza's apology
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for not acknowledging
its own commerciality.
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To go from Sonic Youth
one year
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to Metallica the next year,
that's-- that's a giant leap.
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What's the bridge
between the two?
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There was strategic
errors that year.
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The Metallica crowd
was a little aggro.
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Bathrooms got broken.
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Metallica had
very specific demands.
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One of 'em is they didn't
want to play amphitheaters,
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so we could only play
in fields.
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There was no infrastructure.
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We had to bring
everything in.
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It was very expensive,
and on top of it,
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we raised the ticket price.
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We raised it
from $27.50 to $35.
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That seems like nothing now,
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but still,
this was a big jump in price.
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Metallica came,
we built a lineup with them.
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It was the first time
we had a guest slot
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where we had
a rotating lineup.
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And we had
everybody from Devo,
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to the Cocteau Twins,
to Waylon Jennings.
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We had the Ramones.
Nobody had put the Ramones
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- on a festival.
- One of my favorite bands.
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Johnny, Joey, Marky, Dee Dee--
the Ramones.
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It's one of those
things when you bring it up,
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"How do we not have the Ra--
they're the Ramo--
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you know,
they're the Ramones!"
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The Ramones were a big part
of what fueled me
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in the late '70s.
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Is it good to expose,
you know, yourselves,
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your music to other fans?
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It's good to expose yourself.
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- Exactly.
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Some people think
this lineup
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has strayed away from what
Lollapalooza was meant to be.
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Well, I don't agree.
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I mean, like, you know,
you have, what, three stages?
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You have indie bands
and alternative bands.
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And I mean, like,
the Lollapalooza festival
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I guess is kind of like
the summer event.
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That year,
we took more chances.
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The audience were even bigger.
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It broke all kinds
of attendance records,
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but it got its level
of criticism.
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Like the year before
was too indie,
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and this was too big.
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Wow, it's like Woodstock,
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only with advertisements
everywhere
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and tons of security guards.
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- He's cool.
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Are you being
sarcastic, dude?
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I don't even know anymore.
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Rolling Stone
called it a cash cow.
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I don't mean to wave
my "I'm right" flag,
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but... I was right.
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In 1997, I came back
to Lollapalooza.
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By then, I'd fallen in love
with electronic music.
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I first went to England.
247
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We were listening
to Orbital.
248
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Prodigy.
Tricky.
249
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I was loving
what I was hearing.
250
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♪ Don't wanna be
on top of your list ♪
251
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♪ Monopoly
improperly kissed ♪
252
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At my suggestion,
I brought in electronic music.
253
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Okay, so '97...
254
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We had Marleys, James,
255
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Korn, Tricky,
256
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Snoop, Tool,
257
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Prodigy, Devo.
258
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I helped with that.
259
00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,122
The Orb.
260
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What do you think of the
whole mixed lineup this year?
261
00:13:14,061 --> 00:13:17,630
The lineup this year is not
as good as it was last year,
262
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because they had more of the
mainstream bands last year.
263
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I knew the groups better
last year,
264
00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:24,571
but Tool's here,
and Korn's here,
265
00:13:24,571 --> 00:13:27,307
and Tricky was good,
so I'm having
266
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just as good of a time
as I did last year.
267
00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:32,179
Perry wanted to go
early into dance
268
00:13:32,179 --> 00:13:34,747
and leave this
rock world behind.
269
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I think it's brave,
you know what I mean?
270
00:13:36,383 --> 00:13:39,386
And the proof is
as in ticket sales.
271
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The ticket sales
ain't going too well,
272
00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:42,689
and that's always the case.
273
00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:44,224
Sadly, it didn't do well.
274
00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:46,226
Wasn't that it
shouldn't have done well,
275
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it was just too early.
276
00:13:47,895 --> 00:13:50,197
And he was just
too ahead on that one.
277
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Right around that time,
278
00:13:51,965 --> 00:13:54,601
you also have chat boards
and discussion rooms.
279
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You had connectivity,
so what ended up happening
280
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is you have the internet
kind of being a place
281
00:14:00,707 --> 00:14:04,277
where you can go learn it all,
see it all, know it all.
282
00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:06,313
But Lollapalooza
used to be the place
283
00:14:06,313 --> 00:14:07,414
where you could do that.
284
00:14:09,649 --> 00:14:11,418
What does Lollapalooza
mean to you guys now?
285
00:14:13,753 --> 00:14:16,423
It means nothing to me,
just music and entertainment.
286
00:14:16,423 --> 00:14:17,958
No meaning at all.
287
00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:19,559
Why do you think there were
less people here this year?
288
00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:21,895
I don't know,
I just think that, um...
289
00:14:21,895 --> 00:14:23,363
I don't know.
290
00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:24,731
It's getting worse.
It's good, but like,
291
00:14:24,731 --> 00:14:26,399
it's not as good as before.
292
00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:27,968
So, what ended up happening
293
00:14:27,968 --> 00:14:30,603
is the total annihilation
of subculture.
294
00:14:30,603 --> 00:14:32,305
This summer,
promoters have assembled
295
00:14:32,305 --> 00:14:34,641
over a dozen festivals
and package tours.
296
00:14:34,641 --> 00:14:37,477
Ozzy Osbourne leads a
cross-country hard rock march
297
00:14:37,477 --> 00:14:39,079
with his Ozzfest.
298
00:14:39,079 --> 00:14:40,780
Vans Warped Tour,
299
00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:43,550
aimed at the extreme sports
and skateboarding crowd.
300
00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:46,619
The Horde Tour features
Neil Young and Crazy Horse.
301
00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:48,488
The House of Blues
Smokin' Grooves Tour
302
00:14:48,488 --> 00:14:50,623
has George Clinton's
P-Funk and Cypress Hill.
303
00:14:51,658 --> 00:14:54,194
Turning down the testosterone
a bit, there's a new festival
304
00:14:54,194 --> 00:14:55,795
featuring mostly
female artists
305
00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:57,965
called the Lilith Fair.
306
00:14:57,965 --> 00:15:00,533
Were you concerned at all
with the shows like Horde
307
00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:02,135
and Lilith Fair,
that some of the best
308
00:15:02,135 --> 00:15:04,771
and most popular acts
would somehow be snatched up
309
00:15:04,771 --> 00:15:06,839
on other tours?
310
00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:09,476
Well, it makes you
have to think hard.
311
00:15:09,476 --> 00:15:11,478
How are you gonna get
the artists
312
00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:13,513
that the other guy wants?
313
00:15:13,513 --> 00:15:16,349
How?
This is how.
314
00:15:16,349 --> 00:15:19,619
The managers were like,
"Who wants me?
315
00:15:19,619 --> 00:15:21,288
Pay me."
316
00:15:21,288 --> 00:15:22,956
I think it's--
this year is so great
317
00:15:22,956 --> 00:15:24,924
because Jon Spencer
Blues Explosion is here,
318
00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:26,693
and that's just,
you know, such a--
319
00:15:26,693 --> 00:15:28,795
that's the perfect band,
I think, you know?
320
00:15:28,795 --> 00:15:30,430
I think-- I think they--
321
00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:33,166
I think they were taken
off the bill, unfortunately.
322
00:15:33,166 --> 00:15:34,834
- Oh, that's right.
- Oh, whoa!
323
00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,270
- I'm sorry to break the news.
- Oh, man!
324
00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:44,177
It was ending of sorts
for a lot of things.
325
00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:48,215
♪ Life is hard
and so am I ♪
326
00:15:49,849 --> 00:15:53,720
♪ You better give me
something so I don't die ♪
327
00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,355
That's life.
328
00:15:55,355 --> 00:15:57,090
Things evolve, things change,
things blow up,
329
00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:59,526
what goes underground
becomes mainstream,
330
00:15:59,526 --> 00:16:00,927
what's mainstream
becomes old,
331
00:16:00,927 --> 00:16:02,262
just shrivels up and dies.
332
00:16:02,262 --> 00:16:04,497
Everything's always moving,
you know,
333
00:16:04,497 --> 00:16:06,199
in good ways and bad.
334
00:16:08,168 --> 00:16:11,604
The creativity
was getting stifled.
335
00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:15,175
It was like when Jane's
ended the first time.
336
00:16:16,243 --> 00:16:18,611
So, I'm not sitting there
fighting for that.
337
00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:20,280
I just let it lay.
338
00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:23,516
And it went away.
339
00:16:23,516 --> 00:16:25,885
♪ Before I sputter out ♪
340
00:16:25,885 --> 00:16:27,820
We changed the industry,
341
00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:30,690
and then we were a victim
of our own success.
342
00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:32,359
That's how I see it.
343
00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:36,663
♪ Before I, you know ♪
344
00:16:38,265 --> 00:16:39,599
It was horrible.
345
00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:42,569
I mean, this was a family.
346
00:16:42,569 --> 00:16:45,372
And all of a sudden,
it was over.
347
00:16:53,446 --> 00:16:54,914
Lollapalooza,
the original
348
00:16:54,914 --> 00:16:56,916
alterna-rock summer tour,
died this week
349
00:16:56,916 --> 00:16:58,818
at the age of seven
from a faltering
350
00:16:58,818 --> 00:17:01,254
of its hipness factor,
and complications brought on
351
00:17:01,254 --> 00:17:02,722
by competition.
352
00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:05,125
The tour was pronounced dead
by cofounder Ted Gardner,
353
00:17:05,125 --> 00:17:06,926
who also cited
a severe deficiency
354
00:17:06,926 --> 00:17:08,628
of A-list star power.
355
00:17:08,628 --> 00:17:10,497
Mourners were asked
to remember Lollapalooza
356
00:17:10,497 --> 00:17:12,165
not in its years of decline,
357
00:17:12,165 --> 00:17:15,302
but in its giddy infancy
way back in the day.
358
00:17:15,302 --> 00:17:18,138
MTV News.
You hear it...
359
00:17:18,138 --> 00:17:24,311
...first.
360
00:17:24,311 --> 00:17:25,945
So, '98 to '03 was dead.
361
00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:34,787
Coachella then became
the new exciting proposition
362
00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,289
for a music fan.
363
00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:40,527
And it wasn't necessarily
about a cultural movement.
364
00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:42,529
Now, it was about
a lot of bands
365
00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:43,963
on a lot of stages,
366
00:17:43,963 --> 00:17:46,799
which was the change
of the format
367
00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:50,203
from the traveling festival
to what Europe always did,
368
00:17:50,203 --> 00:17:51,871
which was the location,
three day,
369
00:17:51,871 --> 00:17:53,606
now we're 125 bands.
370
00:17:53,606 --> 00:17:58,010
And then Lolla came back
in '03 and...
371
00:17:59,546 --> 00:18:01,348
did okay in '03.
372
00:18:01,348 --> 00:18:03,983
Tried to do a tweak
on the format in '04.
373
00:18:03,983 --> 00:18:05,985
The national
rock tour Lollapalooza
374
00:18:05,985 --> 00:18:08,155
won't be around upstate
New York this summer.
375
00:18:08,155 --> 00:18:09,622
It's been canceled.
376
00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:12,159
It is the second date
dropped from the summer tour.
377
00:18:12,159 --> 00:18:14,727
Made some bad mistakes
378
00:18:14,727 --> 00:18:16,496
trying to--
trying to revive something
379
00:18:16,496 --> 00:18:18,398
that probably shouldn't have
been revived,
380
00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:20,767
and should have
just gone to...
381
00:18:21,801 --> 00:18:23,203
the Reading format right then.
382
00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:24,704
It was a mistake.
383
00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:26,573
It fell on its face.
384
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,576
I told my wife,
I hate to admit it,
385
00:18:29,576 --> 00:18:32,044
but I think that's that
with Lollapalooza.
386
00:18:32,044 --> 00:18:34,013
I don't think it's gonna
ever happen anymore,
387
00:18:34,013 --> 00:18:35,348
and it feels weird.
388
00:18:35,348 --> 00:18:37,317
It's kind of like
losing a limb
389
00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:39,219
or something like that.
390
00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:52,365
We had been through so
much, and the ups and downs,
391
00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:56,002
and trying to stay on edge
when there isn't an edge.
392
00:18:56,002 --> 00:18:58,738
There just isn't
an edge anymore.
393
00:18:58,738 --> 00:19:01,741
There was always a commercial
versus art conflict.
394
00:19:02,775 --> 00:19:05,412
And that's good,
that was healthy.
395
00:19:05,412 --> 00:19:07,814
But the market
really changed,
396
00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:11,584
so everybody was open
to new ideas.
397
00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:15,488
I didn't know
what I was gonna do,
398
00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:17,056
and I was very embarrassed.
399
00:19:18,124 --> 00:19:19,926
I was hurting for money.
400
00:19:21,561 --> 00:19:26,165
And I don't know why,
401
00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:32,205
but Rick Rubin decided
to make an offer to me
402
00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:33,573
to buy the name...
403
00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:37,510
for like a million dollars.
404
00:19:39,446 --> 00:19:43,283
I won't tell you
exactly how I put it,
405
00:19:43,283 --> 00:19:44,917
but I said no.
406
00:19:51,991 --> 00:19:53,125
Thank you so much.
407
00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,428
This has been
so much fun for us.
408
00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:04,271
In '04, we were
producing Austin City Limits.
409
00:20:04,271 --> 00:20:06,473
That was starting to blow up.
410
00:20:06,473 --> 00:20:08,775
And we were looking
for other sites
411
00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:10,477
to start doing
other music festivals.
412
00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:13,646
It was kind of the new model
moving forward, right?
413
00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:16,148
I mean, ACL, Bonnaroo,
Coachella,
414
00:20:16,148 --> 00:20:18,050
all had been born
out of this new model.
415
00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:20,520
But Lollapalooza was the
biggest festival brand name
416
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,355
recognition in the world.
417
00:20:22,355 --> 00:20:24,891
So, you know,
we contacted Perry,
418
00:20:24,891 --> 00:20:27,159
and it was literally
right after it went down.
419
00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:29,329
Okay, can the presentation
happen on Friday?
420
00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:31,097
I flew out
to Los Angeles,
421
00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:32,432
had lunch with Perry Farrell.
422
00:20:32,432 --> 00:20:34,534
And you know,
Perry was upset.
423
00:20:34,534 --> 00:20:36,703
I mean, he looked like
he had lost a child.
424
00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:40,507
And... I was like,
actually, no,
425
00:20:40,507 --> 00:20:42,642
this is a great opportunity
for us to, like,
426
00:20:42,642 --> 00:20:46,546
hit the reset button
and do it a new fresh way.
427
00:20:46,546 --> 00:20:50,883
♪ A change will do you good ♪
428
00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:53,553
There was this guy,
Charlie Jones.
429
00:20:53,553 --> 00:20:56,022
I really--
I really like this man.
430
00:20:56,022 --> 00:20:58,991
I like what they were doing
with Austin City Limits.
431
00:20:58,991 --> 00:21:01,528
He's got a location,
and he's dedicated
432
00:21:01,528 --> 00:21:03,029
to that location.
433
00:21:04,163 --> 00:21:05,832
And then I got to meet
his team.
434
00:21:05,832 --> 00:21:07,367
Potentially bringing
435
00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:10,803
Lollapalooza into the fold,
it was too good to be true.
436
00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:13,506
I was very familiar
with Lollapalooza
437
00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:16,242
as a fan in 1992.
438
00:21:16,242 --> 00:21:18,911
It was incredible,
life-changing,
439
00:21:18,911 --> 00:21:21,414
just such a--
I mean, it was the height.
440
00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:24,751
It was a brand-new
experience for everyone.
441
00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:26,419
They said,
"Man, listen,
442
00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:28,287
"we all went
to Lollapalooza.
443
00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:30,022
We know what you bring."
444
00:21:30,022 --> 00:21:32,291
And they were
independent promoters.
445
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,994
You have to understand,
there are only four
446
00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:37,263
independent promoters
in the country.
447
00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:39,666
Everybody else
is under somebody's...
448
00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:42,602
They've got a collar on.
449
00:21:42,602 --> 00:21:44,236
They don't.
450
00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:46,072
We just didn't know
what we didn't know back then,
451
00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:47,540
so we were just kinda
blindly doing
452
00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:49,075
whatever we felt
like was right.
453
00:21:49,075 --> 00:21:51,010
There was no handbook
or playbook,
454
00:21:51,010 --> 00:21:52,845
and we didn't have
another company to follow,
455
00:21:52,845 --> 00:21:55,348
because there wasn't one
growing the same way we were.
456
00:21:55,348 --> 00:21:57,417
It's a bit like a band that
has new members
457
00:21:57,417 --> 00:21:58,951
and new energy.
458
00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:02,522
The Charlies came in,
and it was reborn.
459
00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:07,660
Well, cheers.
Here's to success.
460
00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,397
Yeah.
The music has begun.
461
00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:20,440
- Whoo.
- Whoo!
462
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,543
What do we do
from here?
463
00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:27,914
We had success with the
ACL festival business model,
464
00:22:27,914 --> 00:22:32,452
and were actively soliciting
other venues and cities
465
00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:34,687
of where that kind of model
might work.
466
00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:37,790
And some staff in the office
came to me and were like,
467
00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:39,992
"Hey, Chicago Park District
468
00:22:39,992 --> 00:22:42,829
"is having their annual
budget meeting tonight.
469
00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:46,165
"And on the agenda,
it states, you know,
470
00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:51,804
"the creation of a new event
to raise $250,000
471
00:22:51,804 --> 00:22:54,006
for programs that were cut
throughout the Park District."
472
00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:56,342
Lightbulb.
This is like,
473
00:22:56,342 --> 00:22:58,411
it's carpe diem moment.
474
00:22:58,411 --> 00:23:02,181
And I get emotional
when I think about that.
475
00:23:02,181 --> 00:23:05,418
But there was a unique
carpe diem moment.
476
00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:08,721
We were like, who's--
who's the best speaker,
477
00:23:08,721 --> 00:23:12,224
and who could we send
to this annual budget meeting
478
00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:13,993
in Chicago?
479
00:23:13,993 --> 00:23:16,829
We unanimously elected
Stacy Rodrigues.
480
00:23:19,699 --> 00:23:21,233
They had
a budget meeting
481
00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:23,369
for the Chicago
Parks District
482
00:23:23,369 --> 00:23:26,973
where they are listening
to all of the public
483
00:23:26,973 --> 00:23:29,008
talk about all the things
that they want them
484
00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:31,143
to spend money on.
485
00:23:31,143 --> 00:23:33,345
And here I was saying,
we have this new festival.
486
00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:36,182
We think that we're gonna
bring you about $500,000.
487
00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:37,784
And they were like,
"Can we talk to you
488
00:23:37,784 --> 00:23:39,786
after this meeting?"
489
00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,355
We were honestly
a little scared
490
00:23:43,355 --> 00:23:44,857
to even say Lollapalooza,
491
00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:48,160
because the last time
that they had done a festival
492
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,329
in Grant Park was in 1970.
493
00:23:50,329 --> 00:23:53,132
There was a huge riot
actually that year.
494
00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:55,502
Sly and the Family Stone
was three hours late,
495
00:23:55,502 --> 00:23:57,904
people started throwing
bottles and rocks,
496
00:23:57,904 --> 00:24:00,873
and suddenly there were
fires and cars overturned.
497
00:24:00,873 --> 00:24:03,476
So, no concerts in the park
ever since then.
498
00:24:05,211 --> 00:24:06,746
Whee!
499
00:24:06,746 --> 00:24:08,948
Perry Farrell's
here in Chicago
500
00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:11,884
in our Q101 studios,
Mancow's Morning Madhouse.
501
00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:14,020
When the trash is being
picked up, how many people
502
00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:16,188
will have gone through
Grant Park for this thing?
503
00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:19,626
We're expecting approximately
70,000 in total.
504
00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:20,893
- Wow.
- Excellent.
505
00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:22,461
How much bullshit
did you have to go through
506
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:23,863
to get Grant Park?
507
00:24:23,863 --> 00:24:25,732
I mean, they didn't do music
in it for years now.
508
00:24:25,732 --> 00:24:28,134
It was hard work, man.
509
00:24:28,134 --> 00:24:30,402
But, you know,
it's done.
510
00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:33,906
It's kinda like negotiating
a marriage, right?
511
00:24:33,906 --> 00:24:36,475
Once it's done, you don't
have to worry about it.
512
00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:39,311
I don't know,
it should be fun.
513
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,380
There's a lot of good music,
but it's probably
514
00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:44,784
a lot of security,
a lot of cops,
515
00:24:44,784 --> 00:24:46,919
five-dollar waters, I'm sure.
516
00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:49,455
- Yeah.
- $10 pizzas.
517
00:24:49,455 --> 00:24:53,492
$20 a day for parking.
Yeah.
518
00:24:56,796 --> 00:24:59,031
Early on,
there was a lot of resentment.
519
00:24:59,031 --> 00:25:02,101
Grant Park gets cordoned off
for fucking weeks
520
00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:04,537
before and after Lolla.
521
00:25:04,537 --> 00:25:06,806
I mean, it's a very
Chicago thing that people
522
00:25:06,806 --> 00:25:09,876
were like, "How dare
Lollapalooza come and bring
523
00:25:09,876 --> 00:25:14,547
"this fucking monstrosity
of a festival here.
524
00:25:16,015 --> 00:25:18,517
Nobody's from here."
525
00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:21,453
We just got beat up
in the press.
526
00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:24,957
The biggest critic
was Jim DeRogatis
527
00:25:24,957 --> 00:25:26,458
from the Chicago Sun Times.
528
00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:28,861
This city should not be
in the concert business.
529
00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:33,432
The parks were not designed
to be privatized for weeks--
530
00:25:33,432 --> 00:25:35,968
in the case of Lollapalooza,
months at a time.
531
00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:38,137
Should the parks
not be for softball,
532
00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:41,207
and dog walking,
and-- and people?
533
00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:43,309
Organizations in the city
tried to shut it down,
534
00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:50,016
"You can't use Grant Park,"
but, it happened.
535
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,691
This group is one
of the seminal rock bands
536
00:25:58,691 --> 00:26:02,494
- of the '80s.
537
00:26:02,494 --> 00:26:03,830
They were reaching
their height,
538
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:06,232
and then they
suddenly disappeared,
539
00:26:06,232 --> 00:26:09,301
and we lost them
for a decade or more.
540
00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:11,738
But I'm happy to announce,
541
00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:16,208
today at Lollapalooza,
we are all privileged
542
00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:22,048
to see, once again,
our Pixies!
543
00:26:26,452 --> 00:26:30,790
♪ And this I know, his teeth
as white as snow ♪
544
00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:34,026
♪ What a gas
it was to see him ♪
545
00:26:34,026 --> 00:26:38,765
♪ Walk her every day
into a shady place ♪
546
00:26:38,765 --> 00:26:40,432
♪ With her lips she said ♪
547
00:26:40,432 --> 00:26:41,868
♪ She said hey Paul,
hey Paul ♪
548
00:26:41,868 --> 00:26:43,703
Finally, I'm here
tonight watching the Pixies
549
00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:45,504
play at Lollapalooza.
550
00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:48,607
The rebirth.
Version 2.0.
551
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:53,545
♪ Gigantic, gigantic,
gigantic ♪
552
00:26:53,545 --> 00:26:55,081
What are you most
looking forward to?
553
00:26:55,081 --> 00:26:57,016
Who will you be in the
audience for, Perry Farrell?
554
00:26:57,016 --> 00:26:58,685
Pixies is gonna really...
555
00:26:58,685 --> 00:27:00,019
- That's cool.
- ...blow this place up.
556
00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:02,254
And I'm gonna be there
for Billy Idol.
557
00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:05,024
Absolutely, I just can't
wait to see him snarl.
558
00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:07,694
All hell's coming with me!
559
00:27:07,694 --> 00:27:09,628
-Weezer?
-Weezer, for sure.
560
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:11,731
- Weezer!
561
00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:14,934
I tell everybody, you gotta go
see Brian Jonestown Massacre.
562
00:27:14,934 --> 00:27:16,635
- Ah...
- We got Dandy Warhols...
563
00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:18,004
I think Lollapalooza
564
00:27:18,004 --> 00:27:19,739
needs to reestablish
some of that credibility
565
00:27:19,739 --> 00:27:21,107
that they once had
back in the day,
566
00:27:21,107 --> 00:27:23,676
because it did
slip there for a while.
567
00:27:23,676 --> 00:27:26,012
Perry knows the years
when he's not as proud of it,
568
00:27:26,012 --> 00:27:28,681
or people were throwing
rocks at it, or whatever.
569
00:27:28,681 --> 00:27:30,817
I think it's a smart move
that he's doing
570
00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:34,620
a single weekend event
here in Chicago,
571
00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:36,522
as opposed to a tour.
572
00:27:36,522 --> 00:27:37,790
Hello, everybody.
573
00:27:42,829 --> 00:27:45,765
First year in Chicago,
was a little worried.
574
00:27:45,765 --> 00:27:47,734
But I had confidence.
575
00:27:48,835 --> 00:27:50,402
Good things
can happen, right?
576
00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:55,742
♪ Racey days help me through
the hopeless haze ♪
577
00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:57,844
To see
how the world has changed
578
00:27:57,844 --> 00:28:01,580
and festivals have flourished
and withered on the vine.
579
00:28:02,849 --> 00:28:05,117
With Chicago, I couldn't
have imagined that.
580
00:28:05,117 --> 00:28:07,186
♪ And I can't even
recognize... ♪
581
00:28:07,186 --> 00:28:08,821
You name it,
we had problems.
582
00:28:08,821 --> 00:28:12,291
But we did not cut corners,
583
00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:14,260
and we did everything
that the city asked of us.
584
00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:15,762
- Right now.
- It's a good time to do one.
585
00:28:17,663 --> 00:28:20,900
Everybody's excited.
The vibe was fantastic.
586
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,569
And there's a picture,
everybody's cheering,
587
00:28:23,569 --> 00:28:25,304
and I'm standing there
in the back
588
00:28:25,304 --> 00:28:27,539
mortified of how much
money we just lost.
589
00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,041
You know, it was all
our own money,
590
00:28:29,041 --> 00:28:30,476
and it was a gut punch.
591
00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:31,878
But we knew we had something,
592
00:28:31,878 --> 00:28:34,380
we knew the vibe of
the festival was gonna grow.
593
00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:36,482
And on Monday
after Lollapalooza,
594
00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,517
in the Chicago Tribune
above the fold,
595
00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:40,352
it said "Successapalooza."
596
00:28:40,352 --> 00:28:42,254
And right then,
you could feel it.
597
00:28:42,254 --> 00:28:44,523
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
598
00:28:44,523 --> 00:28:46,658
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
599
00:28:46,658 --> 00:28:49,061
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
600
00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,197
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
601
00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,499
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
602
00:28:53,499 --> 00:28:55,667
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
603
00:28:57,436 --> 00:29:02,208
I think when they
came back 2005, 2006, 2007...
604
00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:03,976
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
605
00:29:03,976 --> 00:29:05,812
♪ If could blow up the world ♪
606
00:29:05,812 --> 00:29:09,481
...I felt that there was
a really incredible curation
607
00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:11,483
that was starting again.
608
00:29:15,521 --> 00:29:17,156
You know, to get to see
the Flaming Lips
609
00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:18,690
as one of the big bands.
610
00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:21,127
♪ Does that make me crazy ♪
611
00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:23,729
Gnarls Barkley
was brand-new.
612
00:29:23,729 --> 00:29:25,564
♪ Crazy ♪
613
00:29:27,199 --> 00:29:30,536
♪ That make me crazy ♪
614
00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:36,608
♪ Possibly ♪
615
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:42,048
♪ I never knew for sure
what a wonderful man he was ♪
616
00:29:42,048 --> 00:29:43,482
So many
great bands here.
617
00:29:44,817 --> 00:29:46,252
And it's just been
a great time out here.
618
00:29:46,252 --> 00:29:47,619
The vibe is really positive.
619
00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:54,693
♪ Quelle est cette ivresse
qui nous entraine ♪
620
00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:57,129
This year, they had so many
different types of bands.
621
00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:58,965
And so, all the culture
is coming together,
622
00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:01,400
and everybody just
getting along and having fun.
623
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,969
At Lollapalooza,
there's so many different
624
00:30:02,969 --> 00:30:04,236
genres of music.
625
00:30:04,236 --> 00:30:06,638
You have hip-hop,
you have everything.
626
00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:11,377
And I be telling my homies,
man, Chicago loves hip-hop.
627
00:30:13,612 --> 00:30:15,447
There was a great feeling
628
00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:18,717
back at Lollapalooza again
in the mid-2000s,
629
00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:21,787
and I felt that it really
brought back the spirit
630
00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:24,756
of why it started, and I think
they were nailing that.
631
00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:29,661
Lolla had now taken off.
632
00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:33,265
We had Pearl Jam
and Daft Punk in 2007,
633
00:30:33,265 --> 00:30:35,267
and the epic Daft Punk set
with the pyramid.
634
00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:36,969
That was crazy.
635
00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:42,208
♪ Around the world,
around the world ♪
636
00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:45,011
And then I think
the Rage set in 2008
637
00:30:45,011 --> 00:30:47,446
was-- was the most legendary.
638
00:30:49,548 --> 00:30:51,918
The energy was wild.
639
00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:04,230
At this point, Lolla's
doing 100,000-plus people.
640
00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:07,133
When Rage Against the Machine
came back,
641
00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:10,469
the first note
of "Killing in the Name..."
642
00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:11,971
♪ Rock! ♪
643
00:31:13,605 --> 00:31:16,943
The audience,
the whole mass, boom.
644
00:31:16,943 --> 00:31:18,344
We got a problem.
645
00:31:21,847 --> 00:31:23,649
♪ Killing in the name of ♪
646
00:31:26,485 --> 00:31:29,188
I was at the front
gate when they went on,
647
00:31:29,188 --> 00:31:31,523
and about that time,
the front gate got stampeded
648
00:31:31,523 --> 00:31:33,759
by 200 or 300 kids
from outside.
649
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:35,061
It was insanity.
650
00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:36,662
I mean, they were coming
in every direction.
651
00:31:38,397 --> 00:31:40,933
♪ Fuck you, I won't do
what you tell me ♪
652
00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:42,768
♪ Fuck you, I won't
do what you tell me ♪
653
00:31:42,768 --> 00:31:44,203
You have a hook like,
654
00:31:44,203 --> 00:31:46,405
"Fuck you, I won't do
what you tell me,"
655
00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:48,107
what do you think's
gonna happen?
656
00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:49,942
That's a riot in a can.
657
00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:51,910
It was like something
I had never seen before.
658
00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:54,113
The crowd just kept
moving in, moving in.
659
00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:56,515
- They would stop the show.
- Yo, yo, yo.
660
00:31:56,515 --> 00:31:58,917
Hold it, hold it, hold it.
What's up?
661
00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,153
Yo, you gotta take care.
662
00:32:01,153 --> 00:32:03,755
Please, please,
take a few steps back.
663
00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:05,191
Please.
664
00:32:07,994 --> 00:32:09,761
Y'all gonna be all right?
665
00:32:12,598 --> 00:32:15,034
Y'all gonna look out
after one another tonight?
666
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,105
That's one
of the things I love
667
00:32:19,105 --> 00:32:22,541
about Lollapalooza and this
community that we have,
668
00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:24,076
is that you have
to look out for each other.
669
00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,616
It was one
of my favorite nights
670
00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:33,219
- of rock and roll.
- * Unh ♪
671
00:32:33,219 --> 00:32:35,121
Playing at
the height of our powers,
672
00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:38,424
rocking, you know,
my hometown city furiously,
673
00:32:38,424 --> 00:32:40,659
celebrating this--
you know, a band
674
00:32:40,659 --> 00:32:42,561
that had been away
for a while, and coming back,
675
00:32:42,561 --> 00:32:44,163
a festival that had been
away for a while,
676
00:32:44,163 --> 00:32:45,731
coming back together,
677
00:32:45,731 --> 00:32:47,499
it was really,
really pretty awesome.
678
00:32:47,499 --> 00:32:50,336
♪ We found your weakness ♪
679
00:32:50,336 --> 00:32:53,239
♪ And it's right outside
your door, now testify ♪
680
00:32:54,473 --> 00:32:56,508
We definitely walk
a fine line
681
00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:58,244
with keeping
the traditions of Lolla
682
00:32:58,244 --> 00:33:00,479
and keeping the heart
and soul of Lolla,
683
00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:03,249
and making sure that
it still feels like Lolla,
684
00:33:03,249 --> 00:33:05,551
but that we are growing
with the times.
685
00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,220
Yeah, it looks good.
686
00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:09,655
I like to change a lot,
687
00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:11,623
so I'm really into that.
688
00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:15,494
I hate when I see bands
that are very talented,
689
00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:18,097
and they're wearing t-shirts
and jeans,
690
00:33:18,097 --> 00:33:19,665
and they're dirty,
and they didn't shower--
691
00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:20,932
unless it's grunge.
692
00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:24,603
We're so ready.
Chicago's not ready.
693
00:33:24,603 --> 00:33:26,338
- I can't wait.
- Chicago is not ready
694
00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:27,739
for Gaga.
695
00:33:28,874 --> 00:33:30,276
Whoo!
696
00:33:30,276 --> 00:33:32,111
That girl
is gonna kill herself.
697
00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:35,013
Don't you just hate it
when your disco ball
698
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,149
won't fit in the overhead?
699
00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:41,953
♪ Babe, last night
you took me to the mall ♪
700
00:33:41,953 --> 00:33:44,690
♪ Then it started
to get physical ♪
701
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,625
I think it is still
a real vehicle
702
00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,294
for music discovery.
703
00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:52,498
All these random artists,
you're gonna see some of them
704
00:33:52,498 --> 00:33:54,800
on really tiny stages
705
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,003
and be able
to be close to them.
706
00:33:58,003 --> 00:34:00,906
My name is Lady Gaga.
707
00:34:07,613 --> 00:34:11,450
♪ In your brown eyes ♪
708
00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:13,552
♪ I walked away ♪
709
00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:15,454
I saw the first Gaga year.
710
00:34:15,454 --> 00:34:17,123
I didn't even know
who she was.
711
00:34:17,123 --> 00:34:20,392
I was just walking past, like,
what the fuck is this?
712
00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:24,230
♪ Don't be,
don't be dirty ice cream ♪
713
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,064
♪ Don't be, don't be... ♪
714
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,666
And I remember
being like,
715
00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:29,301
oh, she's really
got something.
716
00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:33,272
Emergency, there's
something in the tracks!
717
00:34:35,341 --> 00:34:37,509
But then,
Gaga goes and becomes
718
00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:39,111
the first pop headliner.
719
00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:46,285
From 1pm at the
BMI stage, our smallest stage,
720
00:34:46,285 --> 00:34:47,953
and then three years
later headlining
721
00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:49,355
- the main stage is...
- It's wild.
722
00:34:49,355 --> 00:34:51,590
♪ Ohh ♪
723
00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:53,725
We did it, Little Monsters.
724
00:34:55,026 --> 00:35:00,266
We made it to the
main stage at Lollapalooza.
725
00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:03,235
We made it
to the Monster Ball!
726
00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:06,338
Gaga in some ways,
kinda like Metallica,
727
00:35:06,338 --> 00:35:09,208
was really hotly debated
internally.
728
00:35:09,208 --> 00:35:11,177
In some ways, we're still
trying to hang on
729
00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:13,445
to this alternative ethos, right?
730
00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:15,414
It was stupid
that we even thought that.
731
00:35:15,414 --> 00:35:17,383
She had a historic performance
and killed it.
732
00:35:17,383 --> 00:35:18,917
♪ Bad romance ♪
733
00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:21,353
♪ I want your love
and I want your revenge ♪
734
00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:25,791
♪ You and me could write
a bad romance ♪
735
00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:29,861
♪ I want your love
and all your lover's revenge ♪
736
00:35:29,861 --> 00:35:33,399
♪ You and me could write
a bad romance ♪
737
00:35:33,399 --> 00:35:35,100
Jump!
738
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,603
Lolla really picks
great people
739
00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:40,572
at great times
in their career,
740
00:35:40,572 --> 00:35:43,909
like when they're--
when no one's heard of them,
741
00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:46,245
when they have millions
of fans, when they're doing
742
00:35:46,245 --> 00:35:48,280
an anniversary,
when they're, you know.
743
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,182
Just like, all these, like,
744
00:35:50,182 --> 00:35:52,017
key pivotal moments
in my life,
745
00:35:52,017 --> 00:35:53,985
I kind of can
even think about them
746
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:56,455
based on, like,
this Lolla time plot.
747
00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:59,458
You know, it's a--
it's a deep thing.
748
00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:04,430
My first Lolla experience
was insane.
749
00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:07,966
Like 12 of us rode down
to Grant Park.
750
00:36:07,966 --> 00:36:09,735
Obviously, none of us
had tickets, right?
751
00:36:09,735 --> 00:36:11,503
Tickets for Lolla
are impossible,
752
00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:13,639
especially when you're broke
and a teenager.
753
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:15,974
But there's all these
different licks,
754
00:36:15,974 --> 00:36:17,743
like you know,
going over the bridge.
755
00:36:17,743 --> 00:36:19,311
Man, let's go,
let's go!
756
00:36:19,311 --> 00:36:20,712
Rushing the gate.
757
00:36:21,813 --> 00:36:26,151
So, there was a gate push, and
everybody starts running in.
758
00:36:26,151 --> 00:36:29,020
Once we get over, like,
everybody starts splitting up,
759
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:31,290
running in
different directions.
760
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:32,858
I went straight
through a crowd,
761
00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:34,993
and I remember somebody
out of nowhere hogged me.
762
00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:37,095
Straight spear
to the side of the body,
763
00:36:37,095 --> 00:36:39,365
and I'm just like,
basically paralyzed
764
00:36:39,365 --> 00:36:40,732
on the ground.
765
00:36:40,732 --> 00:36:43,001
And they pick me up
or whatever,
766
00:36:43,001 --> 00:36:45,371
and they was about
to do me so dirty.
767
00:36:45,371 --> 00:36:47,539
But luckily, the people
that were in the crowd,
768
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,475
they was like,
"Let him go, let him go!"
769
00:36:49,475 --> 00:36:51,877
And I was able to just,
like, walk out
770
00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:54,045
with this other
security dude.
771
00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:57,916
And he was so cool
that he let me
772
00:36:57,916 --> 00:36:59,751
post up in the festival.
773
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,125
One of, like,
the craziest days of my life.
774
00:37:09,094 --> 00:37:11,897
I saw Beirut in person
at Lolla
775
00:37:11,897 --> 00:37:14,500
and sampled them
on my first project.
776
00:37:15,967 --> 00:37:17,769
And the next year,
I was up there.
777
00:37:19,805 --> 00:37:23,309
And we came back in 2014,
it was Perry's Stage.
778
00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:26,244
I was really proud 'cause
I got to produce a show
779
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:27,679
for the first time.
780
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:29,915
Tapped into all the, like,
Chicago foot workers
781
00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:33,051
and dancers, and like, had it
set up in separate acts.
782
00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:39,591
2017 has already
been no problem
783
00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:40,959
for Chance the Rapper.
784
00:37:40,959 --> 00:37:43,529
And the Grammy goes to...
785
00:37:43,529 --> 00:37:45,597
And the Grammy
goes to...
786
00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:48,300
And the Grammy goes to...
787
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:50,068
Chance the Rapper!
788
00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:54,540
♪ Am I the only nigga
still care about mixtapes ♪
789
00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:57,275
Here we go.
One, two,
790
00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,110
one, two, three, go!
791
00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:02,113
♪ Am I the only nigga
still care about mixtapes ♪
792
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:03,482
I'm already hyped up
on the fact
793
00:38:03,482 --> 00:38:06,718
that I brought three trophies
home to the crib.
794
00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:08,387
Like, that's a big deal,
and like,
795
00:38:08,387 --> 00:38:09,888
people really
campaigned for it.
796
00:38:09,888 --> 00:38:13,291
Like, Chicago really was like,
really wanted me to win.
797
00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:15,026
It was a big thing.
798
00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:18,597
Hands up!
799
00:38:18,597 --> 00:38:22,401
♪ Bad little bitch wanna
know how the lips taste ♪
800
00:38:24,703 --> 00:38:27,906
Lolla's definitely a mainstay
for Chicago at this point.
801
00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:29,975
It's a big deal
for Chicagoans,
802
00:38:29,975 --> 00:38:31,610
and we all know
when it's coming,
803
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:33,545
like, you know, the traffic's
gonna be fucked up,
804
00:38:33,545 --> 00:38:35,481
like, where all these
tourists are coming in.
805
00:38:35,481 --> 00:38:37,483
But your ass
gonna end up there,
806
00:38:37,483 --> 00:38:38,917
you know what I'm saying,
you're gonna figure out a way
807
00:38:38,917 --> 00:38:40,318
to get a ticket last minute.
808
00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:42,988
♪ Am I the only nigga
still care about... ♪
809
00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,090
I spent my whole life here,
810
00:38:45,090 --> 00:38:47,225
and now I'm here,
you know...
811
00:38:48,494 --> 00:38:51,597
and just in a--
in a different standing.
812
00:38:51,597 --> 00:38:54,299
♪ I'm a kid in a candy shop! ♪
813
00:38:54,299 --> 00:38:56,702
At this point,
it's a Chicago thing,
814
00:38:56,702 --> 00:38:59,705
and it's-- I don't see
any time soon
815
00:38:59,705 --> 00:39:03,842
when it won't be here.
816
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,490
I just remember
how quickly it happened.
817
00:39:18,490 --> 00:39:22,160
I see this news item of
something out there going on,
818
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,496
and I think it's just
a bird flu thing, right?
819
00:39:24,496 --> 00:39:25,831
Like, it's never
gonna get here,
820
00:39:25,831 --> 00:39:27,365
it's never gonna
affect anything.
821
00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:29,000
And then, like,
two days later,
822
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,037
I'm hearing, like,
every show's canceling.
823
00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:35,407
Fuck, right?
We are really fucked here.
824
00:39:35,407 --> 00:39:37,643
There was to be
nothing in '20.
825
00:39:41,447 --> 00:39:43,314
Music and entertaining
826
00:39:43,314 --> 00:39:46,885
has always been in my blood.
827
00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:51,823
When I was a little boy,
I used to sing for people.
828
00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:55,927
I started singing before
I actually could form words.
829
00:39:55,927 --> 00:40:00,365
So, my first song was called
"Alaboony Ratsanoody."
830
00:40:00,365 --> 00:40:07,138
♪ Alaboony, alaboony ♪
831
00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:11,543
♪ Ratsanoody-noody-noody,
alaboony-boony-boony ♪
832
00:40:11,543 --> 00:40:14,145
And I'd go around
the neighborhood
833
00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:15,981
singing songs to people.
834
00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:23,522
In fact, my true last name
is Baerenstecher,
835
00:40:23,522 --> 00:40:25,524
which means
"handsome entertainer."
836
00:40:28,594 --> 00:40:34,032
The live, "get up there, man,
and rock our world"?
837
00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:38,970
Man, nothing like it.
838
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:44,910
But in an instant, and with a
blink of an eye, it went away.
839
00:40:44,910 --> 00:40:47,946
And I felt sad
for the world.
840
00:40:47,946 --> 00:40:50,882
♪ We'll make great pets ♪
841
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:55,420
After a year off
due to the pandemic,
842
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,756
concerts could be back
in Chicago this summer
843
00:40:57,756 --> 00:41:00,025
if COVID cases
keep going down.
844
00:41:00,025 --> 00:41:03,361
I started getting asked
questions about Lolla
845
00:41:03,361 --> 00:41:05,130
back in early spring.
846
00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:06,932
"Is it happening?
Is it happening?"
847
00:41:06,932 --> 00:41:08,634
With amazing regularity.
848
00:41:08,634 --> 00:41:12,437
This is a big deal in Chicago.
849
00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:16,808
It is definitely part of the
DNA of who we are as a city.
850
00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:19,945
And businesses
benefit from having
851
00:41:19,945 --> 00:41:23,081
this iconic music festival
here in Chicago.
852
00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:25,617
So, listen,
I just talked to the doctor,
853
00:41:25,617 --> 00:41:27,418
and she's giving us
the green light.
854
00:41:27,418 --> 00:41:29,320
What do you think?
855
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,956
- Etty?
- Yes?
856
00:41:32,090 --> 00:41:33,491
- It's on.
857
00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:36,795
- Yes! Whoo!
- Lollapalooza! Ooh!
858
00:41:51,442 --> 00:41:53,712
Normally, it takes
a full 12 to 14 months
859
00:41:53,712 --> 00:41:56,181
to plan out
a Lollapalooza Chicago.
860
00:41:56,181 --> 00:41:58,349
When we got the greenlight
from the mayor,
861
00:41:58,349 --> 00:42:00,652
we had 12 weeks
until show day.
862
00:42:03,388 --> 00:42:06,224
Our staff was depleted,
we were at about 15% or 20%
863
00:42:06,224 --> 00:42:08,594
of what our full-time staff
was at that time.
864
00:42:08,594 --> 00:42:11,096
To be able to go
from really zero
865
00:42:11,096 --> 00:42:13,865
to producing one of the first
festivals in the world
866
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:17,102
coming out of COVID
was a massive undertaking.
867
00:42:17,102 --> 00:42:18,436
Thursday's the big day,
868
00:42:18,436 --> 00:42:19,805
the start of thousands
of people
869
00:42:19,805 --> 00:42:22,307
taking over Grant Park
for Lollapalooza daily.
870
00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:24,676
COVID cases are on the rise
across the country.
871
00:42:24,676 --> 00:42:26,477
That has prompted
Lolla organizers
872
00:42:26,477 --> 00:42:29,414
to require all attendees
to either be fully vaccinated
873
00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:31,016
or have a negative COVID test
874
00:42:31,016 --> 00:42:33,585
within 72 hours
of their attendance.
875
00:42:33,585 --> 00:42:35,654
I feel confident
that the Lolla folks
876
00:42:35,654 --> 00:42:37,923
have a good solid plan
in place,
877
00:42:37,923 --> 00:42:39,858
and we're gonna obviously
hold them accountable
878
00:42:39,858 --> 00:42:42,493
to make sure that
that plan is enforced.
879
00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:44,996
There's a lot of risk.
Lori took a lot of risk.
880
00:42:44,996 --> 00:42:46,431
Local government
took a lot of risk,
881
00:42:46,431 --> 00:42:47,699
C3 took a lot of risk.
882
00:42:47,699 --> 00:42:50,368
Nobody knew what
it was gonna be.
883
00:42:51,637 --> 00:42:53,038
It's gonna be
interesting to see
884
00:42:53,038 --> 00:42:56,507
how much fun we could have
while being so safe.
885
00:42:57,943 --> 00:43:00,111
It went from like,
"Oh my God,
886
00:43:00,111 --> 00:43:02,580
Gibby Haynes
is blowing off shotguns,"
887
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:06,551
to now like, "I'm checking
to see if you're vaccinated."
888
00:43:06,551 --> 00:43:09,154
But it is what it is, man.
889
00:43:15,661 --> 00:43:17,328
We went to
the last Lollapalooza.
890
00:43:17,328 --> 00:43:20,632
It was like the best weekend
literally, like, ever.
891
00:43:20,632 --> 00:43:22,333
That was the one thing
I was looking forward to,
892
00:43:22,333 --> 00:43:24,235
like, during COVID,
like, till like,
893
00:43:24,235 --> 00:43:26,137
for this festival
to come back.
894
00:43:26,137 --> 00:43:28,139
- We got vaccinated.
- Vaccinated.
895
00:43:28,139 --> 00:43:30,742
We're hoping
for the best, you know.
896
00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:33,444
Lolla, baby!
897
00:43:34,780 --> 00:43:36,214
Because of this pandemic,
898
00:43:36,214 --> 00:43:38,583
we've been ready to, like,
get back in the action
899
00:43:38,583 --> 00:43:40,418
and feel the music again.
900
00:43:40,418 --> 00:43:43,254
And I've always wanted
to come to Lollapalooza.
901
00:43:43,254 --> 00:43:45,390
- Yeah?
- But Miley as the headliner
902
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:48,894
was the-- the sign that
this was my year to come.
903
00:43:48,894 --> 00:43:50,829
I need to be front row
to see Miley.
904
00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:53,598
I've watched her
since "Hannah Montana."
905
00:43:53,598 --> 00:43:55,266
I just think that you look
at Miley Cyrus,
906
00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:56,567
and she's like a deity.
907
00:43:56,567 --> 00:43:58,336
I'm dripping sweat,
and I'm here for her.
908
00:43:58,336 --> 00:44:00,538
-I know.
909
00:44:00,538 --> 00:44:04,542
What's up?
What's up, Lollapalooza?
910
00:44:04,542 --> 00:44:07,946
I'm gonna need y'all
to make some noise!
911
00:44:07,946 --> 00:44:09,480
Huh?
912
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,850
♪ I'd drop my nuts
on a hater ♪
913
00:44:11,850 --> 00:44:13,651
♪ Fuckin' these hoes,
I'm a player ♪
914
00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:15,286
♪ VVS chains,
watches and rings ♪
915
00:44:15,286 --> 00:44:17,022
♪ Blowin' that kush
on a acre ♪
916
00:44:17,022 --> 00:44:19,390
It felt
like a community project.
917
00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:20,892
Like everybody
just coming together
918
00:44:20,892 --> 00:44:22,360
to make that shit work,
'cause we needed
919
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,495
to get out of the house,
we needed to get drunk.
920
00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:26,164
Like, we needed to have fun,
you know what I'm saying?
921
00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:27,632
Listen to some good music
922
00:44:27,632 --> 00:44:29,500
on some crazy-ass
big-ass speakers.
923
00:44:33,571 --> 00:44:35,206
The motherfucking goat.
924
00:44:35,206 --> 00:44:38,209
Chano in the building.
My real brother.
925
00:44:38,209 --> 00:44:40,879
Hey, Chicago, make some
fucking noise for G Herbo!
926
00:44:42,547 --> 00:44:45,884
What this goes to say
about live music...
927
00:44:45,884 --> 00:44:51,089
Lollapalooza!
What the fuck is up?!
928
00:44:52,123 --> 00:44:55,193
When people get
together to celebrate life.
929
00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:57,362
Let me hear you say
"Whoo, ahh!"
930
00:44:57,362 --> 00:44:58,629
Whoo, ahh!
931
00:44:58,629 --> 00:45:00,766
The world
will never grow tired.
932
00:45:00,766 --> 00:45:03,701
You mean the fucking world
to me.
933
00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:07,005
I always wanted
the people to feel
934
00:45:07,005 --> 00:45:10,475
like it was theirs
and not mine.
935
00:45:12,577 --> 00:45:15,747
To be able to mesmerize,
and hypnotize,
936
00:45:15,747 --> 00:45:21,019
and raise the consciousness
of 100,000 people?
937
00:45:21,019 --> 00:45:23,021
Just imagine that.
938
00:45:28,226 --> 00:45:31,997
♪ Never loved nobody harder,
never, ever felt stronger ♪
939
00:45:31,997 --> 00:45:34,165
It's so important
to see music live.
940
00:45:34,165 --> 00:45:35,733
Like, it's so important,
941
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:37,202
and it shows the truth
of an artist.
942
00:45:37,202 --> 00:45:39,204
See them in the flesh,
and like,
943
00:45:39,204 --> 00:45:41,172
be in connection with them.
944
00:45:41,172 --> 00:45:42,740
There's nothing like that.
945
00:45:51,649 --> 00:45:54,953
People come here to connect.
946
00:45:54,953 --> 00:45:56,955
During COVID, we learned
to connect with our friends
947
00:45:56,955 --> 00:45:59,724
and family,
and that's beautiful.
948
00:45:59,724 --> 00:46:02,727
But there's something amazing
about connecting
949
00:46:02,727 --> 00:46:04,595
with people you don't know.
950
00:46:11,069 --> 00:46:13,839
This is the thing
I live-- I live for.
951
00:46:16,307 --> 00:46:19,410
Lollapalooza has always
allowed for a lot
952
00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:22,613
of different genres
and walks of life.
953
00:46:24,015 --> 00:46:28,186
As an artist,
I love to play to people
954
00:46:28,186 --> 00:46:30,388
that would be like,
"I heard of Steve Aoki,
955
00:46:30,388 --> 00:46:33,724
but I would have never
gone to a concert."
956
00:46:33,724 --> 00:46:35,460
That they're like
a Miley Cyrus fan,
957
00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:38,463
they're like, "I wanna go see
him play for a little bit."
958
00:46:38,463 --> 00:46:40,231
I love that.
959
00:46:40,231 --> 00:46:42,667
Miley! Miley!
960
00:46:46,404 --> 00:46:48,239
I wanna talk
to y'all for a second.
961
00:46:50,976 --> 00:46:53,178
I think it was a very
humbling experience
962
00:46:53,178 --> 00:46:56,481
for all of us
to be humanized together
963
00:46:56,481 --> 00:46:58,783
and experience the last
year and a half,
964
00:46:58,783 --> 00:47:00,618
the pain of being
disconnected.
965
00:47:00,618 --> 00:47:02,687
And I think
we remembered the value
966
00:47:02,687 --> 00:47:05,056
of having one another
in our lives.
967
00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:07,926
Because sometimes
we take that shit for granted.
968
00:47:09,527 --> 00:47:11,629
We're here,
we made it through.
969
00:47:11,629 --> 00:47:13,731
It's not how we saw it,
not how we planned it,
970
00:47:13,731 --> 00:47:15,666
not exactly how we wanted it.
971
00:47:15,666 --> 00:47:17,202
But there's light
at the end of the tunnel,
972
00:47:17,202 --> 00:47:20,371
and Lollapalooza is that
light for many of us.
973
00:47:26,544 --> 00:47:27,979
Hey!
974
00:47:29,414 --> 00:47:34,819
♪ I can almost see it,
that dream I'm dreaming ♪
975
00:47:34,819 --> 00:47:38,023
♪ But there's a voice
inside my head ♪
976
00:47:38,023 --> 00:47:41,792
♪ Saying,
"You'll never reach it" ♪
977
00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:46,998
♪ Every step I'm taking,
every move I make ♪
978
00:47:46,998 --> 00:47:50,501
♪ Feels lost
with no direction ♪
979
00:47:50,501 --> 00:47:52,170
We thought we were
gonna be all right,
980
00:47:52,170 --> 00:47:54,505
and we prayed we wouldn't be
a super-spreader,
981
00:47:54,505 --> 00:47:55,773
which we weren't.
982
00:47:55,773 --> 00:47:57,708
It was a big moment
I think for the industry
983
00:47:57,708 --> 00:48:03,248
to like, "This can happen,
let's go."
984
00:48:05,216 --> 00:48:08,453
After COVID, coming back
is absolutely
985
00:48:08,453 --> 00:48:10,255
the biggest challenge
I've ever had with the event.
986
00:48:10,255 --> 00:48:12,823
But I think we,
as festival producers,
987
00:48:12,823 --> 00:48:14,192
really thrive
on the challenges.
988
00:48:16,494 --> 00:48:18,596
And that's really
in full force
989
00:48:18,596 --> 00:48:20,565
when we do
the international Lollas.
990
00:48:20,565 --> 00:48:24,970
While Chicago became
bigger and established,
991
00:48:24,970 --> 00:48:28,506
I was pretty adamant
that we push internationally,
992
00:48:28,506 --> 00:48:31,176
that we take this festival
we created
993
00:48:31,176 --> 00:48:32,944
and start to go to places
994
00:48:32,944 --> 00:48:35,246
where festivals
like this didn't.
995
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,791
♪ Come on, come on,
come on, come on ♪
996
00:48:46,791 --> 00:48:48,293
Lolla was one
of the first festivals
997
00:48:48,293 --> 00:48:51,396
to go to South America
in 2011,
998
00:48:51,396 --> 00:48:53,131
working with
our partners Lotus,
999
00:48:53,131 --> 00:48:55,600
the young Charlies
of Chile down there.
1000
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,435
They do concerts all the time,
they do arena shows.
1001
00:48:57,435 --> 00:48:59,337
It's not like concerts
are rare,
1002
00:48:59,337 --> 00:49:02,373
but festivals were not
a normal thing for them.
1003
00:49:03,674 --> 00:49:05,143
Este es
un grand festival!
1004
00:49:05,143 --> 00:49:07,345
But they've never had
a multi-genre,
1005
00:49:07,345 --> 00:49:11,382
multi-stage festival,
and it's really cool
1006
00:49:11,382 --> 00:49:14,119
to see people together
experiencing that
1007
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:16,154
for the first time.
1008
00:49:16,154 --> 00:49:18,389
- Go out there and tear it up.
- I will.
1009
00:49:18,389 --> 00:49:19,724
All right,
we'll be watching.
1010
00:49:19,724 --> 00:49:21,526
I will. Oh my God.
1011
00:49:21,526 --> 00:49:24,629
I want the greatest musicians
1012
00:49:24,629 --> 00:49:27,632
to be heard and seen.
1013
00:49:27,632 --> 00:49:32,537
And I want every nation
to be able to experience that.
1014
00:49:38,076 --> 00:49:40,778
Chile was first,
and then that expanded
1015
00:49:40,778 --> 00:49:42,713
into Argentina and Brazil.
1016
00:49:42,713 --> 00:49:45,216
And then the European
expansion from there--
1017
00:49:45,216 --> 00:49:47,352
Berlin, Stockholm, Paris,
1018
00:49:47,352 --> 00:49:49,587
up until this past year
with Lolla Mumbai.
1019
00:49:55,626 --> 00:49:57,495
Mumbai is like a whole
different ballgame, right?
1020
00:49:57,495 --> 00:49:59,497
Mumbai is, you know,
booking a market
1021
00:49:59,497 --> 00:50:01,166
that very few bands
have played,
1022
00:50:01,166 --> 00:50:02,900
very difficult to get to.
1023
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:06,404
That one probably has the most
logistical challenges,
1024
00:50:06,404 --> 00:50:09,174
just getting stuff to India,
and the artists to India.
1025
00:50:09,174 --> 00:50:11,242
But we were fortunate
to find a great partner there
1026
00:50:11,242 --> 00:50:12,843
who wanted to do
Lolla with us.
1027
00:50:13,911 --> 00:50:17,382
♪ I don't wanna talk anymore,
wanna walk anymore ♪
1028
00:50:17,382 --> 00:50:20,385
♪ Tell my stories to no one ♪
1029
00:50:20,385 --> 00:50:24,021
♪ I don't wanna talk anymore,
wanna walk anymore ♪
1030
00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:26,557
♪ Share my stories
with no one ♪
1031
00:50:26,557 --> 00:50:31,229
Let's bring
great real music
1032
00:50:31,229 --> 00:50:33,598
to the world.
1033
00:50:33,598 --> 00:50:37,368
That's what this has become.
1034
00:50:37,368 --> 00:50:40,105
India-- probably the best
first-year show we've done,
1035
00:50:40,105 --> 00:50:42,440
and we'll be back next year.
1036
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,075
We've got a few other cities
on the radar,
1037
00:50:44,075 --> 00:50:45,443
and then we'll keep growing.
1038
00:50:45,443 --> 00:50:47,278
♪ That I'm a bad liar ♪
1039
00:50:47,278 --> 00:50:49,880
It's fun just to be
able to kinda, like,
1040
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,782
reinvent yourself everywhere.
1041
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:56,454
To bring something
like Lollapalooza
1042
00:50:56,454 --> 00:50:59,023
around the world,
besides my family,
1043
00:50:59,023 --> 00:51:01,792
it's one of the greatest
honors of my life.
1044
00:51:03,294 --> 00:51:06,797
♪ I can feel ♪
1045
00:51:06,797 --> 00:51:10,401
♪ Your breath ♪
1046
00:51:10,401 --> 00:51:12,637
It, like, started out
as this farewell tour,
1047
00:51:12,637 --> 00:51:15,506
but it's still
a culture-changing event.
1048
00:51:16,874 --> 00:51:19,410
♪ I want to go ♪
1049
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:21,078
Lasted and changed
people's lives
1050
00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:25,082
and put millions of smiles
on people's faces.
1051
00:51:25,082 --> 00:51:28,453
And I'm sure it will continue
for years to come.
1052
00:51:29,554 --> 00:51:31,622
Lollapalooza,
Saturday night!
1053
00:51:31,622 --> 00:51:35,193
Get off your feet, let's go!
One, two, three, go!
1054
00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:42,267
♪ Ooh, ooh, hey ♪
1055
00:51:49,374 --> 00:51:51,776
How many words
become synonymous
1056
00:51:51,776 --> 00:51:53,244
with an experience?
1057
00:51:53,244 --> 00:51:56,147
Everybody knows what
Lollapalooza means,
1058
00:51:56,147 --> 00:51:58,916
even if they haven't been
to a Lollapalooza.
1059
00:51:58,916 --> 00:52:03,288
There are certain elements
that live in our zeitgeist
1060
00:52:03,288 --> 00:52:05,323
that are just timeless.
1061
00:52:18,369 --> 00:52:20,738
Metallica.
1062
00:52:20,738 --> 00:52:23,374
Now, I can tell you
I was wrong.
1063
00:52:23,374 --> 00:52:28,145
I've come to know those guys,
have become friends with them.
1064
00:52:31,048 --> 00:52:33,984
The relationship is one
of not just a friendship,
1065
00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:36,821
but one of just respect
and admiration.
1066
00:52:38,523 --> 00:52:43,661
All of us that have
endured 30 or 40 years
1067
00:52:43,661 --> 00:52:47,965
doing what we're doing,
we form a kinship.
1068
00:52:47,965 --> 00:52:50,235
Anybody who's still
left standing,
1069
00:52:50,235 --> 00:52:53,971
I think you share
something mutual with.
1070
00:52:55,973 --> 00:53:00,811
Twenty-six years ago
in 1996,
1071
00:53:00,811 --> 00:53:04,249
Lollapalooza took a chance
on inviting Metallica.
1072
00:53:04,249 --> 00:53:07,652
Thank you, Perry.
Thank you, C3.
1073
00:53:07,652 --> 00:53:09,820
Thank you, Chicago,
for having us.
1074
00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:12,857
We fucking love you.
We will see you very soon.
1075
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:20,197
Now that, you know,
I'm becoming sophisticated
1076
00:53:20,197 --> 00:53:22,199
in my 60s...
1077
00:53:23,668 --> 00:53:27,538
we can really, really,
really do some amazing things
1078
00:53:27,538 --> 00:53:30,808
with this beautiful vehicle
that we've built.
1079
00:53:32,977 --> 00:53:37,815
I just don't want
this festival of expression
1080
00:53:37,815 --> 00:53:42,653
to turn into something
that you build with analytics.
1081
00:53:43,854 --> 00:53:49,960
I only-- I add everything up
just with my heart.
1082
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,896
I'm not a great mathematician.
1083
00:53:51,896 --> 00:53:53,964
Or am I?
1084
00:53:59,470 --> 00:54:02,039
Perry went through
a lot of different phases.
1085
00:54:04,008 --> 00:54:07,111
I think he didn't accept Lolla
for a long time,
1086
00:54:07,111 --> 00:54:10,281
because for Perry,
anything that got big
1087
00:54:10,281 --> 00:54:13,384
or possibly commercial
was a stain on his art.
1088
00:54:14,485 --> 00:54:19,056
I think over time, he accepted
what he had created.
1089
00:54:21,058 --> 00:54:22,693
ICE-T: He's a pioneer,
he wants to do
1090
00:54:22,693 --> 00:54:24,629
what hasn't been done.
1091
00:54:24,629 --> 00:54:27,798
His real happiness
is his creating new shit.
1092
00:54:27,798 --> 00:54:29,166
That's an artist.
1093
00:54:29,166 --> 00:54:31,836
At a young age,
he knew what moved him.
1094
00:54:31,836 --> 00:54:33,304
He went for it.
1095
00:54:33,304 --> 00:54:35,340
He had his own sense
of rhythm and phrasing,
1096
00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:37,375
and what was cool,
and he did it.
1097
00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:39,810
And it's unlike anything else.
1098
00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:44,114
One of the most
dangerous living artists
1099
00:54:44,114 --> 00:54:46,150
that ever stalked
the Venice Boardwalk
1100
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:47,985
really made something that,
you know,
1101
00:54:47,985 --> 00:54:50,755
will sort of
transcend our time.
1102
00:54:50,755 --> 00:54:53,458
The music landscape
would be completely different
1103
00:54:53,458 --> 00:54:55,326
if Lollapalooza didn't exist.
1104
00:54:55,326 --> 00:54:57,895
It really helped a lot
of people, a lot of bands.
1105
00:54:59,163 --> 00:55:00,765
Lollapalooza
shifted culture in a way
1106
00:55:00,765 --> 00:55:04,969
that I don't think a single
band on its own could have.
1107
00:55:04,969 --> 00:55:06,637
It was good for music.
1108
00:55:06,637 --> 00:55:08,906
It was good
for weird teens.
1109
00:55:10,207 --> 00:55:12,510
It's something I'm proud
and grateful to be--
1110
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:14,879
have been involved in,
and happy to see
1111
00:55:14,879 --> 00:55:18,282
that it's turned
into the kind of part
1112
00:55:18,282 --> 00:55:20,150
of American culture
that it is--
1113
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:21,752
world culture that it is.
1114
00:55:21,752 --> 00:55:24,655
To those of us
that were there at the time,
1115
00:55:24,655 --> 00:55:27,057
we all needed it.
1116
00:55:27,057 --> 00:55:30,828
A bunch of people
came together creatively,
1117
00:55:30,828 --> 00:55:33,531
professionally,
and most importantly, as fans,
1118
00:55:33,531 --> 00:55:35,032
when there was no other way
1119
00:55:35,032 --> 00:55:36,467
for us to connect
to each other.
1120
00:55:37,802 --> 00:55:41,606
No matter how successful,
no matter how commercial,
1121
00:55:41,606 --> 00:55:42,873
there's a soul,
there's a spirit,
1122
00:55:42,873 --> 00:55:47,044
there's a DNA that
surrounds Lollapalooza
1123
00:55:47,044 --> 00:55:50,381
that is rooted in
the beautiful soul
1124
00:55:50,381 --> 00:55:52,483
that Perry is.
1125
00:55:53,951 --> 00:55:56,987
Lollapalooza's a gift,
it really is.
1126
00:55:56,987 --> 00:55:59,990
I'll always be very,
very proud
1127
00:55:59,990 --> 00:56:02,292
that I...
1128
00:56:04,429 --> 00:56:08,265
gave a stage
to these artists.
1129
00:56:09,934 --> 00:56:14,004
No matter what happens,
it was a wondrous event.
1130
00:56:14,004 --> 00:56:18,275
It's wondrous that it happened
on this Earth.
1131
00:56:22,647 --> 00:56:25,783
♪ Gimme back that automobile,
turn off that smokestack ♪
1132
00:56:25,783 --> 00:56:28,385
♪ And that goddamn radio ♪
1133
00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:33,090
♪ Hum along with me,
hum along with the TV ♪
1134
00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:37,261
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
1135
00:56:37,261 --> 00:56:41,499
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, no ♪
1136
00:56:42,733 --> 00:56:45,570
♪ No one's! ♪
1137
00:56:47,337 --> 00:56:49,106
♪ Gonna! ♪
1138
00:56:50,475 --> 00:56:51,976
♪ Stop! ♪
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