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* MTV ♪
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Look at the carnage!
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We made it fucking happen!
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Jane's fucking Addiction!
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Look at the carnage.
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And not one kid
was fucking hurt.
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Everybody's having
a good time.
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It should be an event
to be remembered.
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You can come and learn
also while you're at the concert
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about different
activ... act...
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Act.
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Is it a bunch of bands,
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or does it have more meaning
to you than that?
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It's a bunch of bands
bringing people together.
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The first Lollapalooza
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could be looked at
as the beginning
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of something very powerful.
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♪ Head like a hole,
black as your soul ♪
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♪ I'd rather die
than give you control ♪
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♪ Head like a hole,
black as your soul ♪
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♪ I'd rather die
than give you control ♪
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Lollapalooza
was the beginning of things
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that were on the edges
becoming acceptable.
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I think it's...
it's a pleasure
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to feel freakish.
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The first year,
Jane's was big,
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but in an underground way.
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Perry!
Perry, we love you.
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Like, we had all been
underground bands,
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but that was changing.
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There was no underground
anymore.
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♪ You're going to get
what you deserve ♪
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♪ Head like a hole,
black as your soul ♪
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ICE-T: Lollapalooza
was an adventure,
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and took our band
to another level.
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♪ Bow down before the one
you serve ♪
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Lollapalooza '91
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I think was a pivotal reason
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that we turned into
what we turned into.
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And it felt like
kind of a promise
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of what the future could bring.
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So, tell me a little bit
about Lollapalooza Two.
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- Lollapalooza '92.
- '92, excuse me.
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Where do we start?
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I can't guarantee
it's gonna be any better.
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But I know that probably
it'll be bigger.
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It'll be different.
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Lollapalooza '92--
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in the press campaign
for the second Lollapalooza,
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we did a whole lot of,
"If you missed the first one,
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"you've now got
a second chance.
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Don't blow it this time.
Come on out."
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Last year, Lollapalooza
was one of the hottest tours
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of the summer.
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And with most of the 36 dates
already sold out,
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it looks like Lollapalooza Two
is gonna be even bigger.
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It's more hyped up this year.
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There's a lot more coverage
this year,
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you know,
more people know about it.
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One of the really
important things
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about Lollapalooza
was that it moved.
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We're gonna keep
the ticket price cheap,
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and we're gonna go to where
these kids are.
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I think Lollapalooza is great.
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I mean, they should have
had this a long time ago,
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and I hope it keeps on going.
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I hope I can be, you know,
50 years old
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and still going
to Lollapaloozas.
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It was one day of getting
your teenage mind blown.
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You know,
the world's a lot bigger
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than you think it is
here in St. Paul.
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We actually had to message,
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"Look, you're gonna have
to take the day off."
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Our principal kicked us out
for going to this.
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- Our principal kicked us out.
- Oh!
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- Our principal kicked us out.
- We have no school
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for the rest of the year.
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All right,
so we're talking 1992.
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The prerequisite
was young breaking groups.
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And there is Lush
going in their tour bus.
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Colors and psychedelic-type
things, you know.
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It'll be good, you'll like it.
Come.
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I was looking for artists
that were alternative.
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What?!
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Alternative to what?
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Alternative to the status quo,
to classic rock.
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We'll take that as a positive.
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By the time
we got to Lolla,
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we had made our
"Blood Sugar Sex Magik" record.
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First time we had big hits,
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we're, you know,
playing arenas.
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♪ What I got, you gotta get it,
put it in you ♪
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And I had been
absolutely fucking miserable.
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I'd gotten divorced,
I was stressed,
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I couldn't sleep.
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I was, like, didn't know
how to take care of myself.
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I had kind of gotten to a point
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where I was emotionally
much more stable
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by the time
Lollapalooza had come around.
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It was like, I'm okay.
I can enjoy this.
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Like, it's okay
for me to have fun.
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♪ Low brow but I rock
a little know how ♪
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♪ No time for the piggies
or the hoosegow ♪
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"Blood Sugar Sex Magik,"
that record-- voom-- you know?
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They became superstars,
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and Lolla
was the beneficiary of it.
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Lolla got a lot of those.
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I remember sitting
in the conference room,
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Perry's across from me,
and I said,
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"We're gonna put this band on
named Pearl Jam."
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And you know,
it was one of those things,
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I was not leaving that room
until Pearl Jam was on the bill.
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♪ Even flow ♪
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♪ Thoughts arrive
like butterflies ♪
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Don Muller
had signed Pearl Jam
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and put them on Lollapalooza
before their record came out.
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And they got paid,
I think $8,500, okay?
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The record comes out
months before the tour.
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It's huge.
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Joining the Chili Peppers
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on this summer's second annual
Lollapalooza tour
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will be the Seattle bands
Soundgarden and Pearl Jam.
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Seattle had blown wide open.
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Don wanted Pearl Jam
and Soundgarden.
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But I told Don, you can't put
two bands from the same scene.
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He's like, he told me to go
fuck myself, and I'm wrong.
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And Don was very right.
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There's certain similarities,
but really, I mean,
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if you sat down someone
who didn't know
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and played them
a Nirvana record,
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a Mudhoney record,
and a Soundgarden record,
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and a Pearl Jam record,
you know,
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they would have
no clue that they were all
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from like the same city
or the same scene.
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I'm waiting
for the show to start.
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Basically here
to see Pearl Jam.
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What's your favorite group?
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- Pearl Jam.
- Pearl Jam?
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- Yes!
- Pearl Jam, boy,
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they're number one
on our requests so far.
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I'm here to see Ice Cube!
Yeah, baby!
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Who are you here to see?
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Ministry, Lush.
Yeah, that's basically it.
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You have the Lush color already.
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Thanks.
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Make some noise for Lush!
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What did it feel like
to be the first band to play,
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you know, kick off
the whole thing?
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Terrible.
Terrible!
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Well, I think they chose us
so that, you know,
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everyone else could
sort of, you know,
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think, "Oh, that's how
they do it."
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That's how to do it.
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Lollapalooza's there.
Everybody is super excited.
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But people were showing up
much earlier
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than any of us anticipated.
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And tickets were manual.
Scanning did not exist.
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So, we were having a hard time
physically getting people in.
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The problem is,
Pearl Jam were playing second,
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and they were as hot
as they could possibly be.
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Hey, man, you got a joint?
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How long
y'all been waiting?
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About two and a half.
Two and a half hours.
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- How long y'all been waiting?
- Man...
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- God. We left at 10:30.
- At least three hours, man.
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- What's your favorite band?
- Pearl Jam or Soundgarden.
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Cool.
I hope you make it, man.
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No shit, man.
It starts at 2:00.
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So, people are waiting
in line,
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and then they hear
Pearl Jam on stage.
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♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey ♪
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And they lose their minds
and tear fences down.
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Young people running
from one end of the field
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to the other,
a swell of humans.
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You have never seen
security people so frightened.
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You know, they were literally
calculating out,
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"Okay, I'm gonna
lose my life,
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"I'm being paid $7.99 an hour,
or whatever else.
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This is not worth it,
I'm leaving."
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They were manic shows.
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The crowd
was so in love with the band.
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And Eddie Vedder you could tell
was feeding off that energy,
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because he'd already
started doing things
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where he was climbing up
the structure.
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I thought
that band owned the stage.
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They owned the sound.
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And I really have become
friends with them.
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I have a great deal
of respect, and love,
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and admiration for them.
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It was the hottest
ticket, hands down,
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in America, if not the world.
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I wouldn't say that
Lollapalooza broke them,
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but Lollapalooza was broken
by Pearl Jam.
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Alternative, or whatever
you wanna call it--
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grunge, punk, you know.
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It was just massive.
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In '92,
Generation X had really arrived,
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and the energy of the crowd
was insane.
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You know, I think, to me,
that kind of dancing and moshing
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was cathartic.
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One, two, three, go!
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It seems dancing
at concerts has changed.
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You get a big crowd,
then jump up
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and let other people
throw you around.
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- You do it...
- For the rush!
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Ah, yes, for the rush.
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1992 wasn't a bright time.
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We just got through the '80s
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where everybody
went nuts, right?
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No freaking jobs.
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How many broken households
were those kids coming from?
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America was freaking bleak.
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This home video
of the police
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beating up Rodney King
was not enough
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to convince the jury
that the officers
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were guilty
of excessive use of force.
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- Outside the courthouse,
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angry demonstrators
gathered to protest.
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I see--
I'll tell you what, John,
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I gotta see at least
40 fires going at this time.
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Police across
the nation are demanding
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that Ice-T's song "Cop Killer"
be pulled from store shelves.
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The New York State
Sheriff's Association
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is the latest group to demand
that Time Warner,
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the company that is distributing
the record, stop selling it.
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ICE-T: They tried to blame me
for the riot.
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They lied, though.
They say we made it
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as a result of Rodney King.
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But I'ma tell you,
when I wrote the song,
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Rodney King, it hadn't happened
to Rodney King yet.
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So, they found my record
and they attacked,
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and for a minute,
all the news went to me,
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and everybody forgot what was
really going on in the streets.
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Even Vice President
Dan Quayle
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has jumped
on the boycott bandwagon.
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It is wrong for a powerful
influential corporation
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like Time Warner
to make money off a record
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that says it's okay
to kill cops.
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There's so many songs
that people are singing
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that aren't... you know,
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autobiographical or real.
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This is, you know,
they're metaphors.
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♪ Ground control to Major Tom ♪
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Was David Bowie really in
the motherfucking space?
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Like, what the fuck's
the matter with you?
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Let's get loud and shout!
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From Seattle, Washington,
Soundgarden!
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I went to the Lollapalooza
that was Soundgarden
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and Pearl Jam,
which was fucking great.
250
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And Soundgarden
performed "Cop Killer."
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You gotta
realize your power.
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If anybody tells you
that you can't buy something
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or you can't read something,
you gotta fight it.
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You gotta kick ass
and make sure
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that you fucking know
what's known.
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This is a song
dedicated to that feeling.
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This is called "Cop Killer"
by a band called Body Count.
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♪ Cop killer! ♪
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ICE-T:
I thought it was dope.
260
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I think anybody who does
that song got balls.
261
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"Cop Killer," man, it's like
hitting that electric fence.
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Like, pow!
Like, whoa!
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We all knew the cops
were beating up Black people.
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This is not a new thing.
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This is an ongoing struggle.
266
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Get your legs back,
spread 'em!
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Go on, get on over there.
Get up against the car.
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Get your legs back there.
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Go on, get on over there.
Get on the ground.
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- I'm gonna treat you like King.
- What King?
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Like Martin Luther King.
Like Rodney King.
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Like all the Kings from Africa.
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At the time,
I was a huge Ice Cube fan.
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He had just put out his second
solo record,
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"Death Certificate."
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I talked to Ice-T,
and he was telling me
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about Lollapalooza, and how
it was good, boom-boom-boom.
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Then I heard that they wanted
to get me on there, you know,
279
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and he was telling me,
"Yo, you know,
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"fans that's never seen you
play before,
281
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"they've been wanting
to see you play.
282
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May be scared
to go to a rap concert."
283
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And I said they treat you
real cool.
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You're gonna find out
there's a lot of support
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out there for you, you know,
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and it's just another--
another place
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to get the message across,
and the kids need to hear it.
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♪ Fresh out of school 'cause
I was a high school grad ♪
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♪ Gots to get a job
'cause I was a high school dad ♪
290
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♪ Wish I got paid by rappin'
to the nation ♪
291
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♪ But that's not likely,
so here's my application ♪
292
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How political
is Lollapalooza?
293
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It's very political,
but it's on the unity tip.
294
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It's getting people exposed
to, you know, what I'm like,
295
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and it's exposing me to what
other people are like.
296
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And we got some fans
from overseas there.
297
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- This must be a trip for you.
- Yeah, it's fun.
298
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So, how many people
you guys registered today?
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Thousands.
Millions.
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- Billions.
- It's incredible.
301
00:14:34,807 --> 00:14:37,444
We're registering between
800 and 1,000 people a day,
302
00:14:37,444 --> 00:14:38,711
which is unheard of.
303
00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:40,147
It's like over 100 people
an hour.
304
00:14:40,147 --> 00:14:41,581
A survey of young Americans
305
00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:43,616
recently conducted by MTV
and Rock the Vote
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00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:45,953
predicts that a mix
of cynicism and hope
307
00:14:45,953 --> 00:14:47,520
will drive almost
three-quarters
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00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,456
of those questioned
to vote this election year.
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Even though 75% of the 1,000
18 to 29-year-olds
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in the survey view politicians
as quote,
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00:14:55,428 --> 00:14:57,830
"undeserving
of their trust and respect,"
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an equal number plan to vote.
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Choose or lose.
You gotta vote.
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What do you guys
think of Al Gore
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00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:06,806
being chosen by Clinton
as his running mate?
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00:15:06,806 --> 00:15:09,876
I'm afraid of his wife
and her witch hunters,
317
00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:11,378
and headhunters,
and things like that.
318
00:15:11,378 --> 00:15:14,281
But I mean, I think Al Gore
and Clinton
319
00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:18,185
is definitely a better ticket
than the antichrist
320
00:15:18,185 --> 00:15:20,087
who is now running the country.
321
00:15:21,188 --> 00:15:26,026
If there is a duty in life
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00:15:26,026 --> 00:15:29,929
assigned to each
and every generation,
323
00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:34,767
it is that they must turn
over the world,
324
00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:37,304
and nothing short.
325
00:15:37,304 --> 00:15:39,572
Don't do anything
Barbara Bush wouldn't do.
326
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Lollapalooza was a circus,
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00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:49,382
it was a carnival.
328
00:15:49,382 --> 00:15:51,818
It wasn't just a concert.
329
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To use a phrase from the '60s,
it was a happening.
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One of the sights to see
on Lollapalooza '92
331
00:16:01,694 --> 00:16:04,197
is the Jim Rose
Circus Sideshow.
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00:16:04,197 --> 00:16:05,698
Jim Rose, what's this all about?
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Hi, Dave, it's a human
demolition spectacular.
334
00:16:08,368 --> 00:16:10,870
We're gonna be doing it
on the Stage 2000.
335
00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:14,241
It's a two-hour show,
and it's about body altering,
336
00:16:14,241 --> 00:16:15,942
changing your body.
337
00:16:15,942 --> 00:16:19,446
This cat
put on a modern twist
338
00:16:19,446 --> 00:16:21,214
on a carnival sideshow,
339
00:16:21,214 --> 00:16:24,184
where it wasn't
the bearded lady,
340
00:16:24,184 --> 00:16:26,819
but it's the guy who will hang,
341
00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:30,957
you know, a 50-pound dumbbell
from his balls.
342
00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:35,495
Would you guys
like to see that?
343
00:16:41,101 --> 00:16:44,204
With a hook.
Now, let those swing!
344
00:16:49,276 --> 00:16:51,278
It was weird
fucked up shit that they did.
345
00:16:51,278 --> 00:16:53,646
Lifting objects with his penis
was the most incredible thing
346
00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:55,448
- I've ever seen in my life.
- That was amazing.
347
00:16:55,448 --> 00:16:56,949
Ow!
348
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:59,119
I remember seeing
the Jim Rose Circus Sideshow
349
00:16:59,119 --> 00:17:01,988
with Chris Cornell,
and we all thought,
350
00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:03,890
this is the most disgusting
thing.
351
00:17:03,890 --> 00:17:07,060
The Duke of Puke.
Let's go.
352
00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:08,728
You're gonna want to see this.
353
00:17:08,728 --> 00:17:11,098
He had a guy
who took a tube
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00:17:11,098 --> 00:17:13,366
and snaked it down his nose.
355
00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:20,407
And we would put in beer,
ketchup, Maalox,
356
00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:22,342
and I'd pump it
into the stomach.
357
00:17:22,342 --> 00:17:24,644
Now...
358
00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:27,214
What goes down
must come up.
359
00:17:27,214 --> 00:17:29,216
And then I'd pull it back up.
360
00:17:33,586 --> 00:17:35,322
And the show's just starting.
361
00:17:35,322 --> 00:17:38,358
Ladies and gentlemen,
it's time now for bile beer.
362
00:17:39,526 --> 00:17:41,060
Is there anybody
who would like to have
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00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,429
a drink of beer
with the freaks?
364
00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:45,498
I'll give 'em one free beer.
Who are they?
365
00:17:45,498 --> 00:17:47,134
Who would possibly do that?
366
00:17:47,134 --> 00:17:50,103
You'd have to be completely
fucking out of your mind
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00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:52,672
- to do that.
- It's Eddie!
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00:17:52,672 --> 00:17:55,608
It's Eddie from Pearl Jam.
369
00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:57,244
Down the hatch
with the freaks.
370
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,716
Eddie drank that shit,
Chris Cornell drank that shit.
371
00:18:03,716 --> 00:18:05,218
I don't know who else did it,
but after I was done,
372
00:18:05,218 --> 00:18:06,686
I was like,
why the fuck did I do that?
373
00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:08,054
You drank bile?
374
00:18:08,054 --> 00:18:09,889
I drank
the fucking bile, dude.
375
00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:15,928
That's entertainment.
376
00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:20,333
Okay, let me be serious
for a minute.
377
00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:23,236
We're gonna have
a second stage this year,
378
00:18:23,236 --> 00:18:24,937
which I'm real into.
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00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:28,375
Ted's not, but I am.
No, we both are.
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00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:31,244
One stage
would give us enough time
381
00:18:31,244 --> 00:18:34,347
for five to seven groups
at the most, right?
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00:18:34,347 --> 00:18:36,649
If you put another stage in,
383
00:18:36,649 --> 00:18:39,486
and they could be
even the younger ones,
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00:18:39,486 --> 00:18:43,856
ones coming up that weren't
quite ready for 20,000 people,
385
00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:45,658
that would be cool.
386
00:18:45,658 --> 00:18:49,162
There have been a few moments
in my rock career
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00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:51,231
where I've really been happy.
388
00:18:51,231 --> 00:18:53,366
And one of them was when
Perry Farrell called me up
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00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:56,203
and asked the new band I was in,
Rage Against the Machine,
390
00:18:56,203 --> 00:18:58,271
to play the side stage
at Lollapalooza.
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00:18:58,271 --> 00:19:02,108
Just to be on that site and to--
for the first time ever,
392
00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:04,143
to be out
of a little grimy club,
393
00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:06,078
I just felt sort of honored
to be there.
394
00:19:06,078 --> 00:19:08,648
There was a lot of small bands
played that tour.
395
00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:10,783
Stone Temple Pilots.
396
00:19:10,783 --> 00:19:13,920
Cypress Hill.
And Tool.
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00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,588
So, why did you guys come
to Lollapalooza this year?
398
00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:17,924
- I love Perry Farrell.
- We love Perry!
399
00:19:17,924 --> 00:19:21,661
In '92,
I started Porno for Pyros.
400
00:19:23,196 --> 00:19:26,599
That year, Porno for Pyros
played their first ever show
401
00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:28,034
on the side stage.
402
00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:31,103
And what it did was show
that really interesting stuff
403
00:19:31,103 --> 00:19:32,472
was gonna happen
on the side stage,
404
00:19:32,472 --> 00:19:35,208
and you don't wanna miss it.
405
00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:39,078
"120 Minutes" presents
the Alternative Year in Rock.
406
00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:41,047
You see it on TV,
you read it in magazines,
407
00:19:41,047 --> 00:19:42,815
you hear it from
your grandmother.
408
00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:47,254
1992 was a big year
for alternative music.
409
00:19:47,254 --> 00:19:52,124
Lollapalooza has gone
for being a fringe thing
410
00:19:52,124 --> 00:19:55,462
to actually promoting
what is now
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00:19:55,462 --> 00:19:57,230
really the popular music
of the time.
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00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:58,965
Nirvana,
Red Hot Chili Peppers,
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00:19:58,965 --> 00:20:01,634
Pearl Jam, Soundgarden,
Alice in Chains, Sonic Youth,
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00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:03,436
Nine Inch Nails,
Ministry, REM.
415
00:20:03,436 --> 00:20:07,774
Now, it wasn't just
an artist with ideas
416
00:20:07,774 --> 00:20:11,944
curating a live playlist
for an emerging fanbase
417
00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:13,513
around the nation.
418
00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:16,283
It was a bunch of big
corporate record companies
419
00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:18,351
trying to jam their bands
onto the bill
420
00:20:18,351 --> 00:20:19,519
to try to break them.
421
00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:21,954
Record labels
started calling us.
422
00:20:21,954 --> 00:20:25,292
Presidents started calling us
saying, "Put my band on."
423
00:20:25,292 --> 00:20:27,059
And we're like, "No."
424
00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,695
And they're like,
"What do you mean?
425
00:20:28,695 --> 00:20:30,196
Do you know who I am?"
426
00:20:30,196 --> 00:20:31,698
And I'm like,
"Yeah, I know who you are."
427
00:20:31,698 --> 00:20:33,866
We weren't gonna be told
what to do by anybody.
428
00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:39,038
Let's see here.
429
00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:41,107
What do we have on '93?
430
00:20:41,107 --> 00:20:45,044
I see Primus, Alice in Chains,
Dinosaur Jr.,
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00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:49,616
Fishbone, Arrested,
242, Babes in Toyland.
432
00:20:49,616 --> 00:20:53,019
Tool must have opened.
Oh, and Rage.
433
00:20:57,457 --> 00:20:59,792
♪ Hey, yo, it's just
another bomb... ♪
434
00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:02,495
In '93,
there's no Jane's Addiction,
435
00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:05,231
there's no Perry fronting Porno
as the first thing,
436
00:21:05,231 --> 00:21:08,067
there's no sort of ringing
endorsement necessarily.
437
00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:11,237
He's more removed,
even though he's not.
438
00:21:11,237 --> 00:21:13,039
He's not playing.
439
00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:15,842
So, Lolla has to stand
on its own two feet.
440
00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:20,212
♪ It goes a-one, two, three ♪
441
00:21:20,212 --> 00:21:22,349
♪ And it's just
another bombtrack ♪
442
00:21:22,349 --> 00:21:24,684
♪ And suckers be thinking
that they can fade this ♪
443
00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:27,754
♪ But I'm gonna drop it
at a higher level... ♪
444
00:21:27,754 --> 00:21:30,890
I went and checked out
Rage Against the Machine.
445
00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:34,394
I knew they were gonna be
just unbelievable.
446
00:21:44,003 --> 00:21:46,573
The sheer, like, balls-out
447
00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:51,411
was technically brilliant.
448
00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:57,417
So, '93,
Rage Against the Machine
449
00:21:57,417 --> 00:22:00,052
was playing like
at 1:30 in the afternoon.
450
00:22:00,052 --> 00:22:02,922
People sitting down with
their beers and their hot dogs.
451
00:22:02,922 --> 00:22:05,725
♪ Burn, burn,
yes, you're gonna burn ♪
452
00:22:05,725 --> 00:22:08,094
And on comes
Rage Against the Machine
453
00:22:08,094 --> 00:22:10,830
with huge riffs
and screeching solos,
454
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:12,732
and you know,
Zack pontificating
455
00:22:12,732 --> 00:22:15,835
about the evils
of imperialism.
456
00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:18,304
And people were just--
their ears were pinned back,
457
00:22:18,304 --> 00:22:20,940
and we were done by, like, 2:15.
458
00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:22,341
♪ Burn! ♪
459
00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:28,180
A Rage Against the
Machine show is issue-oriented.
460
00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:30,116
Every time a band
steps up on a stage,
461
00:22:30,116 --> 00:22:32,184
it's-- you know, it's a platform
to say something.
462
00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:34,621
I don't think that
we should be fooled now,
463
00:22:34,621 --> 00:22:36,389
just because Clinton's
in office,
464
00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:39,325
that he isn't serving
many of the same interests
465
00:22:39,325 --> 00:22:41,594
that Reagan and Bush served,
and it's our responsibility
466
00:22:41,594 --> 00:22:43,095
to organize and to stay on top
467
00:22:43,095 --> 00:22:45,297
and keep pressuring
and keep confronting.
468
00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:48,234
You voted.
Now, you're invited.
469
00:22:48,234 --> 00:22:49,969
Live from Washington D.C.,
470
00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:52,739
MTV's "Rock N' Roll
Inaugural Ball."
471
00:22:54,907 --> 00:22:57,477
Ladies and gentlemen,
the Vice President
472
00:22:57,477 --> 00:23:00,346
of the United States
and Mrs. Gore.
473
00:23:01,581 --> 00:23:03,282
You have Tipper Gore
474
00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:05,818
and her organization PMRC
475
00:23:05,818 --> 00:23:08,821
trying to tamp down
free thought.
476
00:23:08,821 --> 00:23:13,125
All we're interested in is a way
to make a quick decision
477
00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:16,963
in a record store of stuff
that's positive,
478
00:23:16,963 --> 00:23:19,566
terrific, and great,
over some content
479
00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:21,734
that's extremely
explicit and violent,
480
00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:23,736
and refers to drugs.
481
00:23:23,736 --> 00:23:26,806
It had gotten to the point
where I think every one of us
482
00:23:26,806 --> 00:23:28,307
were like,
"Why is this happening?"
483
00:23:28,307 --> 00:23:32,078
The subculture is being
celebrated in the mainstream.
484
00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:34,380
You could buy
Alternative Press Magazine
485
00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:35,682
at the supermarket.
486
00:23:35,682 --> 00:23:38,050
We rocked the vote, all right.
487
00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:40,820
The initial
Rock the Vote campaign
488
00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:42,655
that was started
at Lollapalooza,
489
00:23:42,655 --> 00:23:45,391
of course he benefitted.
490
00:23:45,391 --> 00:23:47,494
Thank you very much
for helping change
491
00:23:47,494 --> 00:23:49,829
the course of your country.
492
00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:54,300
And Rage decided, "Well,
we have to do something."
493
00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:59,305
We had the idea to do a protest.
494
00:24:00,607 --> 00:24:02,909
Layne Staley had never
seen Rage play.
495
00:24:02,909 --> 00:24:05,144
Alice in Chains was headlining,
so he was later in the day.
496
00:24:05,144 --> 00:24:06,579
So, he came that day.
497
00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:08,147
So, he's standing on the side
of the stage like,
498
00:24:08,147 --> 00:24:10,116
"Man, I heard your band's great.
I can't wait to see you guys."
499
00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:12,585
I'm like,
"Layne, you're going to see us.
500
00:24:12,585 --> 00:24:15,287
You're going to see us
very soon."
501
00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:17,256
No one else knows,
no one in the crew,
502
00:24:17,256 --> 00:24:20,059
Layne Staley-- nobody knows.
503
00:24:20,059 --> 00:24:21,894
It's time to go.
We take off our clothes.
504
00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:24,531
♪ No more lies, unh! ♪
505
00:24:24,531 --> 00:24:27,767
Tom Morello's mother was
my high school history teacher.
506
00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:30,302
She's a really avid
First Amendment supporter,
507
00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:35,041
and you know, Tom inherited,
you know, those leanings.
508
00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:39,045
She's actually the radical
in the family, to be honest.
509
00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:43,583
I just remember thinking,
how long is he gonna do this?
510
00:24:43,583 --> 00:24:45,518
And I couldn't believe it,
and I thought,
511
00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:48,521
wow, that's really,
really brave and committed.
512
00:24:48,521 --> 00:24:50,923
But then part of me was like,
you know, there's other ways
513
00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:54,460
to do it.
514
00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:57,797
Well, I wasn't there,
but I sure saw the pictures.
515
00:24:57,797 --> 00:25:00,166
That was before manscaping.
516
00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:03,202
How cool, though?
517
00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:07,740
Take your cock out, man,
that's fucking-- that's heavy.
518
00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:11,678
It's "120 Minutes,"
I'm Lewis Largent,
519
00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:13,512
and right now I'm in
an Alice in Chains sandwich.
520
00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,347
I'm gonna give you the mic,
and you introduce yourself.
521
00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:19,451
Jerry Cantrell,
codpiece extraordinaire.
522
00:25:19,451 --> 00:25:24,056
♪ Yeah ♪
523
00:25:25,825 --> 00:25:29,095
♪ What's my drug of choice ♪
524
00:25:29,095 --> 00:25:30,930
The line-ups of Lolla
525
00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:37,469
have been very dude-heavy
for years.
526
00:25:37,469 --> 00:25:42,842
That kind of booking
really shuns women in bands,
527
00:25:42,842 --> 00:25:44,911
and there have always been
women in bands.
528
00:25:44,911 --> 00:25:47,780
Okay, backstage again
at Lollapalooza '93,
529
00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:49,582
and we are here
with Babes in Toyland,
530
00:25:49,582 --> 00:25:53,185
the lone babes
on the Lollapalooza bill.
531
00:25:53,185 --> 00:25:55,487
Do you think there's any truth
in the criticism...
532
00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:57,156
- Lone babes?
- Yeah.
533
00:25:57,156 --> 00:25:59,091
Everybody's babes
in the universe.
534
00:26:00,259 --> 00:26:01,327
On the first day
of this tour,
535
00:26:01,327 --> 00:26:04,330
this elderly man
in a blue satin vest
536
00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:06,032
with a swirly
psychedelic pattern
537
00:26:06,032 --> 00:26:10,002
comes up to us and says,
"I love your band."
538
00:26:10,002 --> 00:26:15,808
♪ You got this thing
that really makes me hot ♪
539
00:26:15,808 --> 00:26:18,678
And he started, like,
singing "Bruise Violet,"
540
00:26:18,678 --> 00:26:21,080
one of our songs,
and like, playing air guitar.
541
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,481
And I was just like, oh my God.
542
00:26:22,481 --> 00:26:24,984
You know, I recognized him
as Timothy Leary.
543
00:26:24,984 --> 00:26:29,321
Turn on, tune in, drop out.
544
00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:32,358
So, he introduced us
at the shows.
545
00:26:32,358 --> 00:26:35,261
It's Lollapalooza '93.
546
00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:38,831
And we've got one
of the greatest bands
547
00:26:38,831 --> 00:26:41,067
of the 21st century.
548
00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:46,138
From Minneapolis,
Babes in Toyland!
549
00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:55,481
The one thing that
was hard with Lollapalooza
550
00:26:55,481 --> 00:26:57,684
was we had to spend
a lot of money
551
00:26:57,684 --> 00:27:00,019
because we were women, you know?
552
00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:02,554
Basically to tour.
553
00:27:02,554 --> 00:27:05,324
♪ Yeah... ♪
554
00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:09,095
They had showers set up
for like the roadies and stuff,
555
00:27:09,095 --> 00:27:10,763
and the bands could use 'em.
556
00:27:10,763 --> 00:27:12,431
Except like, for us,
it was like,
557
00:27:12,431 --> 00:27:13,800
"Oh, do you really wanna--
558
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,634
do you really wanna shower
with the truckers?"
559
00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:20,807
You know, so-- so we would get
day rooms in the hotels,
560
00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:22,308
which kinda cost us money.
561
00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:23,943
So, I remember I came home
from Lollapalooza
562
00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:25,812
and had to borrow rent money
from my mom.
563
00:27:37,356 --> 00:27:39,225
You did?
Well, you had a reason
564
00:27:39,225 --> 00:27:41,127
- to do that, so...
- I was pissed.
565
00:27:41,127 --> 00:27:43,262
- Yeah.
- Pissed off.
566
00:27:43,262 --> 00:27:45,965
And drunk and on ecstasy
at the same time.
567
00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:47,666
Isn't it supposed
to make you happy?
568
00:27:49,035 --> 00:27:51,570
My friend Tom Morello,
who I went to high school with,
569
00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:53,472
and my friend Adam Jones
from Tool,
570
00:27:53,472 --> 00:27:55,107
who I went to high school with,
571
00:27:55,107 --> 00:27:58,377
we all played Lollapalooza
the same year, which was crazy.
572
00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:00,947
It's just so crazy.
573
00:28:00,947 --> 00:28:02,815
And were you kinda nervous
going up on the big stage?
574
00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,717
Yeah, yeah.
There's far too many kids,
575
00:28:04,717 --> 00:28:07,820
and they're very intimidating,
and they didn't like us.
576
00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:09,421
- They didn't like you?
- No.
577
00:28:09,421 --> 00:28:10,890
- I couldn't tell.
- I don't buy that for...
578
00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:12,825
They were fucking going
like this, I couldn't tell.
579
00:28:12,825 --> 00:28:14,226
- That's a good thing.
- I think they were looking
580
00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:15,561
- for something.
- No, that's a good thing.
581
00:28:15,561 --> 00:28:17,229
Adam Jones,
the guitarist of Tool,
582
00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:18,597
and Maureen Herman,
the bass player
583
00:28:18,597 --> 00:28:21,267
of Babes in Toyland,
we were all in the same
584
00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:23,602
kinda high school classes,
close friends.
585
00:28:23,602 --> 00:28:27,606
And we woke up one day,
like on adjacent tour buses,
586
00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:29,942
going like,
"What hath God wrought?"
587
00:28:29,942 --> 00:28:33,312
And here we were in '93
touring the nation together
588
00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:36,515
on the most anticipated tour
of the summer.
589
00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:41,821
Two bands had
graduated from the small stage,
590
00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:43,689
being Rage Against the Machine
and Tool,
591
00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:46,325
to being now
part headliners there.
592
00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:49,595
It was a great nod
593
00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:52,431
to the visionary side
of Lollapalooza.
594
00:28:52,431 --> 00:28:56,335
♪ It took so long to remember
just what happened ♪
595
00:28:56,335 --> 00:28:58,670
♪ I was so young
and vestal then ♪
596
00:28:58,670 --> 00:29:01,107
By the time
'93 came around,
597
00:29:01,107 --> 00:29:03,375
we're playing
these gigantic venues.
598
00:29:03,375 --> 00:29:06,779
A lot of the places
that we're playing are fields.
599
00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:08,280
What else can we do?
600
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,083
And it was decided, well,
we'll have another stage.
601
00:29:12,284 --> 00:29:15,654
A third stage.
We'll do more music.
602
00:29:15,654 --> 00:29:18,657
John put ads
in fanzines,
603
00:29:18,657 --> 00:29:20,492
"Do you wanna play
on Lollapalooza?"
604
00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:24,997
If you walked in his office,
there were cassette tapes
605
00:29:24,997 --> 00:29:27,433
at least two-feet deep,
606
00:29:27,433 --> 00:29:30,402
and John would be sitting
on the floor with a boombox
607
00:29:30,402 --> 00:29:33,505
literally listening
to all of them.
608
00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:35,875
♪ Soon to fall ♪
609
00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:37,609
I liked
the band Sebadoh,
610
00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:39,711
and the main person
in that band
611
00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:42,681
used to be in Dinosaur Jr.
612
00:29:44,716 --> 00:29:47,719
I really liked the band
Mercury Rev an awful lot.
613
00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:52,825
They added this musicality
and dimension
614
00:29:52,825 --> 00:29:55,327
that wasn't featured
on the main stage.
615
00:29:56,662 --> 00:29:58,931
The other thing
that was important that year
616
00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:00,499
was to include local bands.
617
00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:07,773
So, it wasn't just this elitist
corporate festival coming in.
618
00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:12,044
By now, Lollapalooza
is a mainstream phenomenon,
619
00:30:12,044 --> 00:30:15,781
and there's something that a lot
of those Lollapalooza bands
620
00:30:15,781 --> 00:30:17,116
have in common.
621
00:30:17,116 --> 00:30:18,951
I call it punk rock guilt.
622
00:30:18,951 --> 00:30:21,787
These were bands
that had a point of view
623
00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:26,225
that was dismissive
of sort of the arena rock vibe.
624
00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:28,060
And yet, they were selling
enough records
625
00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:29,395
to be playing arenas.
626
00:30:29,395 --> 00:30:32,431
This caused a real,
you know, in--
627
00:30:32,431 --> 00:30:35,134
I know it was in Kurt Cobain and
I know it was in Eddie Vedder.
628
00:30:35,134 --> 00:30:37,003
I know it was in my band, I know
it was in Nine Inch Nails,
629
00:30:37,003 --> 00:30:39,071
I know it was in Tool.
Not that long ago,
630
00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:40,739
bands that you despised
631
00:30:40,739 --> 00:30:42,674
were playing those arenas.
Have you become them?
632
00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:48,014
♪ I'm not like them,
but I can pretend ♪
633
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:50,917
♪ The sun is gone,
but I have... ♪
634
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,306
Nirvana,
the Beastie Boys,
635
00:31:14,306 --> 00:31:17,609
and the Pumpkins,
we all had meetings.
636
00:31:17,609 --> 00:31:20,779
We had George Clinton
and Nick Cave,
637
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:23,349
and the Breeders,
Stereolab, and Patti Smith,
638
00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:25,184
and the Verve,
and The Pharcyde.
639
00:31:25,184 --> 00:31:29,455
And that year was gonna be epic.
640
00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:33,559
So, we were planning
the festival,
641
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,462
and Nirvana thought about it,
but you know,
642
00:31:36,462 --> 00:31:38,164
decided that
they couldn't do it.
643
00:31:38,164 --> 00:31:39,298
Kurt couldn't do it.
644
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:42,634
Kurt was terrified
of selling out,
645
00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:45,237
and Lolla was a sell-out moment
I think for them.
646
00:31:46,572 --> 00:31:48,474
You know,
he very clearly at that point
647
00:31:48,474 --> 00:31:51,143
was talking about how he looked
in the audience
648
00:31:51,143 --> 00:31:54,246
and he saw all the people that
were beating him up in school.
649
00:31:54,246 --> 00:31:56,015
And me too, right?
650
00:31:56,015 --> 00:31:59,285
Like, Nirvana was,
you know, everything to us.
651
00:31:59,285 --> 00:32:03,789
When you're alongside something
that once-in-a-generation,
652
00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:07,893
once-in-a-lifetime, it just
affects you in every way.
653
00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:12,864
I had heard that Kurt
escaped from a rehab,
654
00:32:12,864 --> 00:32:16,768
and they actually wondered
if I knew where he was.
655
00:32:19,071 --> 00:32:21,407
So, I did not know where he was.
656
00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:23,642
And then...
657
00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:28,214
a few days later...
658
00:32:28,214 --> 00:32:31,017
they told me
that he had shot himself.
659
00:32:32,251 --> 00:32:34,053
Kurt Cobain, the leader
of one of rock's
660
00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:37,056
most gifted and promising bands,
Nirvana, is dead.
661
00:32:37,056 --> 00:32:39,791
Police found what is said to be
a suicide note at the scene,
662
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,728
but have not yet
divulged its contents.
663
00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:45,364
And we're really gonna miss him.
He was a very sweet man.
664
00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:48,234
Nirvana was a very, very bright
and promising group,
665
00:32:48,234 --> 00:32:50,202
and that promise has now
been pretty much extinguished.
666
00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:57,376
I just don't even
want to accept it, 'cause...
667
00:32:59,745 --> 00:33:01,113
then it just means
you carry on,
668
00:33:01,113 --> 00:33:02,814
and that just
seems really strange.
669
00:33:03,949 --> 00:33:06,152
And yet, if you don't,
what does that mean, you know?
670
00:33:10,256 --> 00:33:12,458
I think everyone felt in shock.
671
00:33:12,458 --> 00:33:14,026
I think-- of course.
672
00:33:14,026 --> 00:33:15,794
I mean, it was so tragic
and horrible.
673
00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:19,231
So, when Kurt died,
it almost felt like kinda--
674
00:33:19,231 --> 00:33:21,333
it was the end of an era.
675
00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,040
There's a magical place
with band after band
676
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,409
playing magical music
while you get sun-tanned.
677
00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:32,178
Lollapalooza!
678
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:34,480
Here comes the coolest
apparition this summer.
679
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,249
Smashing Pumpkins,
Beastie Boys, The Breeders,
680
00:33:37,249 --> 00:33:39,118
George Clinton, L7,
681
00:33:39,118 --> 00:33:40,586
plus mucho more.
682
00:33:40,586 --> 00:33:42,688
Between bands,
look into the future
683
00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:44,690
down the Lollapalooza
super highway,
684
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,858
the online cyberlink
that lets you talk
685
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:48,794
long-distance via computer.
686
00:33:48,794 --> 00:33:50,996
Lollapalooza '94,
a hypnotic way
687
00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:52,464
to spend a hot spell.
688
00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:54,166
This MTV Lollapalooza Tour...
689
00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:09,648
When Kurt passed,
I think everyone decided
690
00:34:09,648 --> 00:34:14,820
we have to continue
celebrating
691
00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:16,988
what it is to be
the Kurts of the world.
692
00:34:16,988 --> 00:34:19,291
Because everybody has to be
their own person, you know?
693
00:34:19,291 --> 00:34:22,294
I mean, you can't always
depend on other people
694
00:34:22,294 --> 00:34:24,696
to let yourself
go the right path.
695
00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:27,666
And what happened that summer
is everyone came together.
696
00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:34,473
♪ We were rich once
before your head exploded ♪
697
00:34:34,473 --> 00:34:38,009
♪ Imagine doing just what
the Big Bang did ♪
698
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:46,718
♪ The whole world
knew it was loaded ♪
699
00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:51,657
♪ Wave bye-bye 'cause it ain't
ever coming down now ♪
700
00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:57,396
Somebody said, you know,
701
00:34:57,396 --> 00:35:00,366
the big whiny
college rock comment,
702
00:35:00,366 --> 00:35:03,269
"There's nothing alternative
about Lollapalooza anymore."
703
00:35:03,269 --> 00:35:07,473
To me, alternative--
I would think it would just mean
704
00:35:07,473 --> 00:35:10,376
an alternative frame of mind.
705
00:35:10,376 --> 00:35:14,146
People that are into, like,
peace, and science,
706
00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:15,781
and music, and art.
707
00:35:17,015 --> 00:35:18,684
Hey, even Parrotheads
love this, man.
708
00:35:18,684 --> 00:35:20,186
We're all into
this kind of music.
709
00:35:20,186 --> 00:35:21,487
It's a good thing,
you got all these people
710
00:35:21,487 --> 00:35:23,021
from different-- I mean,
different types of people
711
00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:24,723
listen to this music,
it's just a great thing.
712
00:35:24,723 --> 00:35:26,225
It's a great--
I mean, I can't beat this.
713
00:35:26,225 --> 00:35:28,494
I got people here with me
that have never seen this kind--
714
00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:30,329
listened to this kind
of music before, you know,
715
00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:34,166
I'm breaking 'em into it, stuff,
making 'em listen to XRT, Q101.
716
00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:37,736
The irony of alternative is,
once you identify it,
717
00:35:37,736 --> 00:35:41,473
market to it, label it,
you can't inhabit it
718
00:35:41,473 --> 00:35:43,575
as alternative anymore,
'cause it's not.
719
00:35:43,575 --> 00:35:46,545
And so, I think in many ways,
720
00:35:46,545 --> 00:35:49,080
what we tried to do
on the main stage,
721
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,483
and what we tried
to do on the second stage
722
00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:55,120
is make sure that we were
pushing the envelope creatively.
723
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,323
My man, would you like to dance?
724
00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:59,925
Future husband material,
ladies and gentlemen.
725
00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:01,460
- Future husband material.
- Pass him up here.
726
00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:03,262
- Bring him up here.
- Wrap him in swaddling cloth
727
00:36:03,262 --> 00:36:04,796
and take him backstage.
728
00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:09,901
See, now you all
could have come backstage
729
00:36:09,901 --> 00:36:12,571
if you had "L7" shaved
into your head.
730
00:36:12,571 --> 00:36:15,874
L7 was from the L.A.
underground art punk scene,
731
00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:19,311
and we had such high hopes
for Lollapalooza in '94.
732
00:36:19,311 --> 00:36:23,081
But we were tapping our feet
going, okay...
733
00:36:23,081 --> 00:36:25,384
when are we getting the call?
734
00:36:25,384 --> 00:36:27,586
So, we send a fax
to this meeting
735
00:36:27,586 --> 00:36:31,290
that says,
"Dear Lollapalooza,
736
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:35,461
who does L7 have to blow to
serve Coors at Lollapalooza?"
737
00:36:35,461 --> 00:36:36,895
And it was signed,
738
00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:40,632
"L, always the bridesmaids,
never the brides, 7."
739
00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:42,368
- Yippee!
- Here, kitty, kitty, kitty,
740
00:36:42,368 --> 00:36:44,803
- kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty...
- Boom-boom.
741
00:36:44,803 --> 00:36:49,107
So, we got the offer,
but we had to push the issue,
742
00:36:49,107 --> 00:36:50,976
and we had to fight for it.
743
00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:55,647
'Cause that's how much
we wanted to be on Lollapalooza.
744
00:36:55,647 --> 00:36:57,683
And more importantly,
that's how much
745
00:36:57,683 --> 00:37:00,352
we felt we deserved
to be on Lollapalooza.
746
00:37:00,352 --> 00:37:04,723
But we've-- we've had to kick
down doors a lot in our career.
747
00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:08,260
♪ Down in North Hollywood ♪
748
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:11,330
♪ There's a guy
with long hair... ♪
749
00:37:11,330 --> 00:37:13,999
I don't think that women
were represented
750
00:37:13,999 --> 00:37:16,335
nearly enough
at Lollapalooza.
751
00:37:16,335 --> 00:37:18,370
But when they were represented,
752
00:37:18,370 --> 00:37:20,171
they were there
because they rock.
753
00:37:24,376 --> 00:37:26,812
First year of Lolla,
you have Siouxsie.
754
00:37:26,812 --> 00:37:30,349
Second year, only women
on the bill are Lush.
755
00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:33,852
And then, year three,
you have Babes in Toyland.
756
00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:37,489
And there was women
in Arrested Development too.
757
00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:41,360
♪ Turn the tables
with our unity ♪
758
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,963
♪ They're neither
moral nor majority... ♪
759
00:37:46,332 --> 00:37:48,667
You know, but you look
at that now and just go,
760
00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:51,437
seems like women
were an afterthought.
761
00:37:51,437 --> 00:37:55,006
Which is really wild,
because it was women.
762
00:37:55,006 --> 00:37:58,009
It was women who really helped
break alternative music.
763
00:38:03,415 --> 00:38:05,451
You know, people say,
"Oh, it's noise."
764
00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:07,419
- Like, you know, it's...
- Yeah.
765
00:38:07,419 --> 00:38:14,360
I mean, we didn't set out
to be noisy or industrial, or...
766
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,262
We were heavily influenced
by the early Beastie Boys.
767
00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:19,297
- Yeah.
- Early hardcore.
768
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,435
♪ Ahh, ahh... ♪
769
00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:25,437
Entertainment Weekly
came out to do a shoot
770
00:38:25,437 --> 00:38:28,039
at one of the shows,
and then the issue comes out,
771
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,342
and I think they probably
thought
772
00:38:30,342 --> 00:38:31,710
when they were choosing pictures
773
00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:33,612
that it was one of me
rocking out.
774
00:38:33,612 --> 00:38:37,516
But it was actually me, like,
pulling up my bra strap.
775
00:38:37,516 --> 00:38:40,018
And I'm like...
776
00:38:40,018 --> 00:38:41,687
And I'm sure nobody noticed,
but I'm like,
777
00:38:41,687 --> 00:38:43,889
of course, I get on the cover
with my tongue sticking out
778
00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:46,224
pulling up my bra strap.
779
00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:47,559
Who did you come to see today?
780
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:48,827
Oh, I came to see
A Tribe Called Quest
781
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,228
and Smashing Pumpkins.
782
00:38:50,228 --> 00:38:51,296
- And the Beastie Boys.
- And the Beastie Boys.
783
00:38:51,296 --> 00:38:52,931
- L7.
- L7 and Flaming Lips.
784
00:38:52,931 --> 00:38:54,099
- Yeah.
- George Clinton!
785
00:38:54,099 --> 00:38:55,434
So, everybody
I've talked to today
786
00:38:55,434 --> 00:38:58,069
is really excited about
having you on this tour.
787
00:38:58,069 --> 00:39:00,439
I'm glad, 'cause we was worried.
We was worried, you know.
788
00:39:00,439 --> 00:39:02,408
George, you don't know,
you have so many admirers
789
00:39:02,408 --> 00:39:03,709
- on this tour.
- Well, you know,
790
00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:06,011
we usually have three
or four hours and stuff.
791
00:39:06,011 --> 00:39:08,480
You know, we had to cut
it down to 45.
792
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,348
And we tried to conform,
even though people
793
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:11,617
don't believe we'd do that.
794
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:16,555
Describe George Clinton,
'cause George Clinton's a trip.
795
00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:18,056
Yeah, he was,
like, really wild.
796
00:39:18,056 --> 00:39:19,425
There was this guy in diapers,
and then he was like...
797
00:39:19,425 --> 00:39:20,926
- Wedding dress.
- Yeah, and then he would--
798
00:39:20,926 --> 00:39:22,428
then he changed into
a wedding dress,
799
00:39:22,428 --> 00:39:23,929
and then he had on these,
like, little fur things,
800
00:39:23,929 --> 00:39:26,432
and then his underpants,
so he's bending over like that.
801
00:39:26,432 --> 00:39:30,502
♪ That's it, goddamn,
the old-school way to jam ♪
802
00:39:30,502 --> 00:39:35,841
There I was, 1994,
partying with some of the crew
803
00:39:35,841 --> 00:39:39,411
of George Clinton's band.
804
00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:44,950
That's why I don't remember
that much about it.
805
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:49,187
♪ All sons of bitches,
all sons of bitches ♪
806
00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:55,360
Welcome to dollop of losers.
How was your first couple shows?
807
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,228
- Um...
- It rocked, man.
808
00:39:57,228 --> 00:39:58,664
- They did the wave.
- That was right.
809
00:39:58,664 --> 00:40:00,031
- They did the wave.
- They did that rock wave thing.
810
00:40:00,031 --> 00:40:01,533
It was cool, I guess.
811
00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:03,068
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
812
00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:06,071
I very seldom hear Perry say no,
813
00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:09,074
except when he said no
to Green Day.
814
00:40:09,074 --> 00:40:13,812
Mo Ostin was still the president
at Warner Brothers,
815
00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:16,948
and he had this new group
that he had discovered.
816
00:40:16,948 --> 00:40:20,185
♪ I sit around
and watch the tube ♪
817
00:40:20,185 --> 00:40:23,021
♪ But nothing's on ♪
818
00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:25,891
Then he took me
into his office to ask,
819
00:40:25,891 --> 00:40:28,159
"Would you put 'em
on Lollapalooza?"
820
00:40:30,596 --> 00:40:34,299
I told him no at first
because I didn't want him
821
00:40:34,299 --> 00:40:36,201
to think he could just
come to me
822
00:40:36,201 --> 00:40:39,971
and put people on there.
823
00:40:39,971 --> 00:40:41,707
It doesn't work that way.
824
00:40:43,909 --> 00:40:45,276
But I was like,
"Dude, why?"
825
00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:49,515
I was like, "Listen,
they inhabit the gumption,
826
00:40:49,515 --> 00:40:51,282
"attitude, and posturing.
827
00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:54,853
It reminds me a lot of you
back in the day."
828
00:40:54,853 --> 00:40:58,123
So, Perry's compromise was,
"I'm gonna book the Boredoms."
829
00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:05,631
So, they'll do half
and Green Day
830
00:41:05,631 --> 00:41:06,865
will do the other half.
831
00:41:07,933 --> 00:41:11,937
♪ You're the cloud hanging out
over my head ♪
832
00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:15,974
In '92, '93, '94,
there was a band
833
00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:18,677
that was on the rise that
actually would steal the show.
834
00:41:18,677 --> 00:41:22,413
So, in '92, it was Pearl Jam,
'93, it was Rage,
835
00:41:22,413 --> 00:41:24,315
and in '94, it was Green Day.
836
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,519
So, there's this band
on the rise
837
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,454
that was playing
earlier in the day
838
00:41:29,454 --> 00:41:32,558
that was almost as popular
as the headliner.
839
00:41:32,558 --> 00:41:34,593
Hi, this is Billy
from the Smashing Pumpkins.
840
00:41:34,593 --> 00:41:37,062
I'm here with my longtime
bandmate,
841
00:41:37,062 --> 00:41:39,631
Mr. James "Eye-ha."
842
00:41:39,631 --> 00:41:41,900
Wait, that's "Ee-ha."
843
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:46,271
Let's take this opportunity
to demystify the woman in rock.
844
00:41:46,271 --> 00:41:48,306
Seeing as people always ask us
this stupid question,
845
00:41:48,306 --> 00:41:49,908
let's ask each other
the stupid question.
846
00:41:49,908 --> 00:41:53,478
I was just gonna ask you not
to ask me any stupid questions.
847
00:41:53,478 --> 00:41:56,514
For me, that year
was the peak of Lollapalooza.
848
00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:57,816
There were some of the most
849
00:41:57,816 --> 00:41:59,317
magical performances
that summer.
850
00:41:59,317 --> 00:42:00,786
I got to see the Beastie Boys
every single night.
851
00:42:00,786 --> 00:42:04,856
♪ I can't stand it,
I know you planned it ♪
852
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:07,292
♪ I'm gonna set it straight,
this Watergate ♪
853
00:42:07,292 --> 00:42:10,128
♪ I can't stand rocking
when I'm in here ♪
854
00:42:10,128 --> 00:42:13,198
♪ Your crystal ball
ain't so crystal clear, so... ♪
855
00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:14,532
I mean,
say what you will
856
00:42:14,532 --> 00:42:16,534
about the Beastie Boys
and the Smashing Pumpkins
857
00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:19,004
becoming mainstream.
858
00:42:19,004 --> 00:42:21,973
Both those acts
earned their place
859
00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:25,577
because the audience that
was there revered them both.
860
00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:27,145
And I can honestly say
that the Beasties
861
00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:29,347
have a lot of influence
on a lot of the bands
862
00:42:29,347 --> 00:42:30,649
that are on the bill this year,
863
00:42:30,649 --> 00:42:32,751
so maybe you wanna talk
about that.
864
00:42:32,751 --> 00:42:36,354
Um... well...
865
00:42:36,354 --> 00:42:37,823
Well, okay, I'm...
866
00:42:37,823 --> 00:42:40,859
Turned out to be
an unbelievable year.
867
00:42:40,859 --> 00:42:44,329
Set attendance records,
Green Day was breaking.
868
00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:47,432
That was probably the end
of phase one that year.
869
00:42:49,534 --> 00:42:51,670
♪ 'Cause you can't, you won't,
and you don't stop ♪
870
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:53,972
♪ 'Cause you can't,
you won't, and you don't stop ♪
871
00:42:53,972 --> 00:42:57,408
By that point,
Lollapalooza was bigger
872
00:42:57,408 --> 00:42:59,244
than we could have imagined.
873
00:42:59,244 --> 00:43:01,680
♪ And I got mad hits
like I was Rod Carew, yeah ♪
874
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,014
♪ 'Cause you can't, you won't,
and you don't stop... ♪
875
00:43:03,014 --> 00:43:05,851
It was going so well,
and you know,
876
00:43:05,851 --> 00:43:09,320
when the car is rolling
and it's going real, real fast,
877
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,657
it gets harder and harder
to jump out.
878
00:43:11,657 --> 00:43:15,460
♪ Rock the sure shot... ♪
879
00:43:19,264 --> 00:43:23,802
I remember the press
in '94 slagging us,
880
00:43:23,802 --> 00:43:27,338
saying Lollapalooza has lost it.
881
00:43:27,338 --> 00:43:31,476
Lollapalooza was never designed
to be a festival
882
00:43:31,476 --> 00:43:33,712
of platinum-selling acts.
883
00:43:33,712 --> 00:43:37,248
So, I think we hit a little bit
of a bump in the road then.
884
00:43:39,885 --> 00:43:41,386
When I found out
that Metallica
885
00:43:41,386 --> 00:43:43,689
was going to be on Lollapalooza,
886
00:43:43,689 --> 00:43:47,659
my first thought was,
887
00:43:47,659 --> 00:43:51,262
what the fuck do they have
to do with Lollapalooza?
888
00:43:51,262 --> 00:43:53,331
Oh my God.
889
00:43:53,331 --> 00:43:56,534
Here come the bad boys
of hard rock.
890
00:43:56,534 --> 00:43:58,103
Ooh!
891
00:43:58,103 --> 00:44:03,308
♪ Obey your master ♪
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