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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,403 --> 00:00:06,707 * MTV ♪ 2 00:00:13,447 --> 00:00:15,049 Look at the carnage! 3 00:00:16,417 --> 00:00:18,486 We made it fucking happen! 4 00:00:19,587 --> 00:00:21,489 Jane's fucking Addiction! 5 00:00:22,956 --> 00:00:24,725 Look at the carnage. 6 00:00:24,725 --> 00:00:27,395 And not one kid was fucking hurt. 7 00:00:27,395 --> 00:00:29,530 Everybody's having a good time. 8 00:00:29,530 --> 00:00:32,700 It should be an event to be remembered. 9 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:35,603 You can come and learn also while you're at the concert 10 00:00:35,603 --> 00:00:37,938 about different activ... act... 11 00:00:37,938 --> 00:00:39,873 Act. 12 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:41,175 Is it a bunch of bands, 13 00:00:41,175 --> 00:00:43,344 or does it have more meaning to you than that? 14 00:00:43,344 --> 00:00:46,214 It's a bunch of bands bringing people together. 15 00:00:46,214 --> 00:00:47,781 The first Lollapalooza 16 00:00:47,781 --> 00:00:50,151 could be looked at as the beginning 17 00:00:50,151 --> 00:00:52,620 of something very powerful. 18 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:56,624 ♪ Head like a hole, black as your soul ♪ 19 00:00:56,624 --> 00:01:00,961 ♪ I'd rather die than give you control ♪ 20 00:01:00,961 --> 00:01:05,065 ♪ Head like a hole, black as your soul ♪ 21 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:09,170 ♪ I'd rather die than give you control ♪ 22 00:01:11,839 --> 00:01:16,677 Lollapalooza was the beginning of things 23 00:01:16,677 --> 00:01:20,348 that were on the edges becoming acceptable. 24 00:01:22,683 --> 00:01:25,119 I think it's... it's a pleasure 25 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:26,654 to feel freakish. 26 00:01:26,654 --> 00:01:29,157 The first year, Jane's was big, 27 00:01:29,157 --> 00:01:30,958 but in an underground way. 28 00:01:30,958 --> 00:01:32,460 Perry! Perry, we love you. 29 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:35,396 Like, we had all been underground bands, 30 00:01:35,396 --> 00:01:36,964 but that was changing. 31 00:01:36,964 --> 00:01:38,432 There was no underground anymore. 32 00:01:40,234 --> 00:01:43,103 ♪ You're going to get what you deserve ♪ 33 00:01:43,103 --> 00:01:46,073 ♪ Head like a hole, black as your soul ♪ 34 00:01:46,073 --> 00:01:48,442 ICE-T: Lollapalooza was an adventure, 35 00:01:48,442 --> 00:01:51,379 and took our band to another level. 36 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:56,517 ♪ Bow down before the one you serve ♪ 37 00:01:56,517 --> 00:01:58,552 Lollapalooza '91 38 00:01:58,552 --> 00:02:01,189 I think was a pivotal reason 39 00:02:01,189 --> 00:02:04,425 that we turned into what we turned into. 40 00:02:04,425 --> 00:02:06,527 And it felt like kind of a promise 41 00:02:06,527 --> 00:02:08,596 of what the future could bring. 42 00:02:19,873 --> 00:02:24,878 So, tell me a little bit about Lollapalooza Two. 43 00:02:24,878 --> 00:02:28,549 - Lollapalooza '92. - '92, excuse me. 44 00:02:28,549 --> 00:02:29,983 Where do we start? 45 00:02:31,485 --> 00:02:34,154 I can't guarantee it's gonna be any better. 46 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:37,525 But I know that probably it'll be bigger. 47 00:02:37,525 --> 00:02:39,193 It'll be different. 48 00:02:39,193 --> 00:02:41,329 Lollapalooza '92-- 49 00:02:41,329 --> 00:02:43,497 in the press campaign for the second Lollapalooza, 50 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:47,801 we did a whole lot of, "If you missed the first one, 51 00:02:47,801 --> 00:02:49,570 "you've now got a second chance. 52 00:02:49,570 --> 00:02:51,939 Don't blow it this time. Come on out." 53 00:02:54,242 --> 00:02:56,510 Last year, Lollapalooza was one of the hottest tours 54 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:57,845 of the summer. 55 00:02:57,845 --> 00:03:00,248 And with most of the 36 dates already sold out, 56 00:03:00,248 --> 00:03:03,384 it looks like Lollapalooza Two is gonna be even bigger. 57 00:03:03,384 --> 00:03:04,885 It's more hyped up this year. 58 00:03:04,885 --> 00:03:06,420 There's a lot more coverage this year, 59 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:07,888 you know, more people know about it. 60 00:03:12,260 --> 00:03:14,027 One of the really important things 61 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:18,098 about Lollapalooza was that it moved. 62 00:03:18,098 --> 00:03:20,501 We're gonna keep the ticket price cheap, 63 00:03:20,501 --> 00:03:22,870 and we're gonna go to where these kids are. 64 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:24,638 I think Lollapalooza is great. 65 00:03:24,638 --> 00:03:26,807 I mean, they should have had this a long time ago, 66 00:03:26,807 --> 00:03:28,242 and I hope it keeps on going. 67 00:03:28,242 --> 00:03:30,244 I hope I can be, you know, 50 years old 68 00:03:30,244 --> 00:03:31,745 and still going to Lollapaloozas. 69 00:03:31,745 --> 00:03:38,252 It was one day of getting your teenage mind blown. 70 00:03:38,252 --> 00:03:40,421 You know, the world's a lot bigger 71 00:03:40,421 --> 00:03:43,457 than you think it is here in St. Paul. 72 00:03:43,457 --> 00:03:44,792 We actually had to message, 73 00:03:44,792 --> 00:03:46,294 "Look, you're gonna have to take the day off." 74 00:03:46,294 --> 00:03:47,961 Our principal kicked us out for going to this. 75 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:49,397 - Our principal kicked us out. - Oh! 76 00:03:49,397 --> 00:03:50,964 - Our principal kicked us out. - We have no school 77 00:03:50,964 --> 00:03:52,165 for the rest of the year. 78 00:03:53,401 --> 00:03:56,370 All right, so we're talking 1992. 79 00:03:58,406 --> 00:04:02,476 The prerequisite was young breaking groups. 80 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:04,345 And there is Lush going in their tour bus. 81 00:04:04,345 --> 00:04:08,649 Colors and psychedelic-type things, you know. 82 00:04:08,649 --> 00:04:10,584 It'll be good, you'll like it. Come. 83 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:13,621 I was looking for artists that were alternative. 84 00:04:13,621 --> 00:04:15,055 What?! 85 00:04:15,055 --> 00:04:16,657 Alternative to what? 86 00:04:16,657 --> 00:04:20,794 Alternative to the status quo, to classic rock. 87 00:04:29,437 --> 00:04:31,138 We'll take that as a positive. 88 00:04:34,342 --> 00:04:35,976 By the time we got to Lolla, 89 00:04:35,976 --> 00:04:38,145 we had made our "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" record. 90 00:04:38,145 --> 00:04:40,180 First time we had big hits, 91 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:42,583 we're, you know, playing arenas. 92 00:04:42,583 --> 00:04:45,285 ♪ What I got, you gotta get it, put it in you ♪ 93 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:48,622 And I had been absolutely fucking miserable. 94 00:04:48,622 --> 00:04:50,458 I'd gotten divorced, I was stressed, 95 00:04:50,458 --> 00:04:51,859 I couldn't sleep. 96 00:04:51,859 --> 00:04:55,529 I was, like, didn't know how to take care of myself. 97 00:04:55,529 --> 00:04:57,331 I had kind of gotten to a point 98 00:04:57,331 --> 00:04:59,066 where I was emotionally much more stable 99 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:01,569 by the time Lollapalooza had come around. 100 00:05:01,569 --> 00:05:04,505 It was like, I'm okay. I can enjoy this. 101 00:05:04,505 --> 00:05:06,173 Like, it's okay for me to have fun. 102 00:05:06,173 --> 00:05:09,410 ♪ Low brow but I rock a little know how ♪ 103 00:05:09,410 --> 00:05:12,045 ♪ No time for the piggies or the hoosegow ♪ 104 00:05:12,045 --> 00:05:16,684 "Blood Sugar Sex Magik," that record-- voom-- you know? 105 00:05:16,684 --> 00:05:18,218 They became superstars, 106 00:05:18,218 --> 00:05:20,388 and Lolla was the beneficiary of it. 107 00:05:20,388 --> 00:05:22,155 Lolla got a lot of those. 108 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,229 I remember sitting in the conference room, 109 00:05:29,229 --> 00:05:32,165 Perry's across from me, and I said, 110 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,267 "We're gonna put this band on named Pearl Jam." 111 00:05:34,267 --> 00:05:36,504 And you know, it was one of those things, 112 00:05:36,504 --> 00:05:39,239 I was not leaving that room until Pearl Jam was on the bill. 113 00:05:39,239 --> 00:05:42,142 ♪ Even flow ♪ 114 00:05:42,142 --> 00:05:45,245 ♪ Thoughts arrive like butterflies ♪ 115 00:05:45,245 --> 00:05:48,682 Don Muller had signed Pearl Jam 116 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:52,686 and put them on Lollapalooza before their record came out. 117 00:05:52,686 --> 00:05:56,624 And they got paid, I think $8,500, okay? 118 00:05:56,624 --> 00:05:59,960 The record comes out months before the tour. 119 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,062 It's huge. 120 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:03,531 Joining the Chili Peppers 121 00:06:03,531 --> 00:06:05,433 on this summer's second annual Lollapalooza tour 122 00:06:05,433 --> 00:06:07,768 will be the Seattle bands Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. 123 00:06:07,768 --> 00:06:09,970 Seattle had blown wide open. 124 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:12,740 Don wanted Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. 125 00:06:12,740 --> 00:06:16,043 But I told Don, you can't put two bands from the same scene. 126 00:06:16,043 --> 00:06:19,012 He's like, he told me to go fuck myself, and I'm wrong. 127 00:06:19,012 --> 00:06:21,549 And Don was very right. 128 00:06:21,549 --> 00:06:24,418 There's certain similarities, but really, I mean, 129 00:06:24,418 --> 00:06:26,620 if you sat down someone who didn't know 130 00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:28,789 and played them a Nirvana record, 131 00:06:28,789 --> 00:06:30,624 a Mudhoney record, and a Soundgarden record, 132 00:06:30,624 --> 00:06:32,460 and a Pearl Jam record, you know, 133 00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:34,327 they would have no clue that they were all 134 00:06:34,327 --> 00:06:37,665 from like the same city or the same scene. 135 00:06:37,665 --> 00:06:38,999 I'm waiting for the show to start. 136 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:40,601 Basically here to see Pearl Jam. 137 00:06:40,601 --> 00:06:41,735 What's your favorite group? 138 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:43,170 - Pearl Jam. - Pearl Jam? 139 00:06:43,170 --> 00:06:44,705 - Yes! - Pearl Jam, boy, 140 00:06:44,705 --> 00:06:46,474 they're number one on our requests so far. 141 00:06:46,474 --> 00:06:49,409 I'm here to see Ice Cube! Yeah, baby! 142 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:50,711 Who are you here to see? 143 00:06:50,711 --> 00:06:53,313 Ministry, Lush. Yeah, that's basically it. 144 00:06:53,313 --> 00:06:54,948 You have the Lush color already. 145 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:56,316 Thanks. 146 00:06:56,316 --> 00:06:57,818 Make some noise for Lush! 147 00:07:06,494 --> 00:07:08,796 What did it feel like to be the first band to play, 148 00:07:08,796 --> 00:07:10,698 you know, kick off the whole thing? 149 00:07:10,698 --> 00:07:13,133 Terrible. Terrible! 150 00:07:13,133 --> 00:07:15,102 Well, I think they chose us so that, you know, 151 00:07:15,102 --> 00:07:16,336 everyone else could sort of, you know, 152 00:07:16,336 --> 00:07:17,738 think, "Oh, that's how they do it." 153 00:07:17,738 --> 00:07:19,239 That's how to do it. 154 00:07:20,508 --> 00:07:24,912 Lollapalooza's there. Everybody is super excited. 155 00:07:24,912 --> 00:07:27,515 But people were showing up much earlier 156 00:07:27,515 --> 00:07:29,617 than any of us anticipated. 157 00:07:30,618 --> 00:07:34,788 And tickets were manual. Scanning did not exist. 158 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:39,226 So, we were having a hard time physically getting people in. 159 00:07:41,061 --> 00:07:44,532 The problem is, Pearl Jam were playing second, 160 00:07:44,532 --> 00:07:48,101 and they were as hot as they could possibly be. 161 00:07:48,101 --> 00:07:50,103 Hey, man, you got a joint? 162 00:07:52,472 --> 00:07:53,807 How long y'all been waiting? 163 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:55,843 About two and a half. Two and a half hours. 164 00:07:55,843 --> 00:07:57,711 - How long y'all been waiting? - Man... 165 00:07:57,711 --> 00:08:00,213 - God. We left at 10:30. - At least three hours, man. 166 00:08:00,213 --> 00:08:02,750 - What's your favorite band? - Pearl Jam or Soundgarden. 167 00:08:02,750 --> 00:08:04,818 Cool. I hope you make it, man. 168 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:06,687 No shit, man. It starts at 2:00. 169 00:08:06,687 --> 00:08:09,489 So, people are waiting in line, 170 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:11,424 and then they hear Pearl Jam on stage. 171 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:19,366 ♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey ♪ 172 00:08:19,366 --> 00:08:22,302 And they lose their minds and tear fences down. 173 00:08:24,905 --> 00:08:27,808 Young people running from one end of the field 174 00:08:27,808 --> 00:08:30,510 to the other, a swell of humans. 175 00:08:33,714 --> 00:08:36,617 You have never seen security people so frightened. 176 00:08:36,617 --> 00:08:38,118 You know, they were literally calculating out, 177 00:08:38,118 --> 00:08:39,452 "Okay, I'm gonna lose my life, 178 00:08:39,452 --> 00:08:41,388 "I'm being paid $7.99 an hour, or whatever else. 179 00:08:41,388 --> 00:08:42,856 This is not worth it, I'm leaving." 180 00:08:42,856 --> 00:08:44,692 They were manic shows. 181 00:08:49,630 --> 00:08:52,566 The crowd was so in love with the band. 182 00:08:52,566 --> 00:08:55,102 And Eddie Vedder you could tell was feeding off that energy, 183 00:08:55,102 --> 00:08:57,037 because he'd already started doing things 184 00:08:57,037 --> 00:08:58,872 where he was climbing up the structure. 185 00:09:04,978 --> 00:09:08,782 I thought that band owned the stage. 186 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,856 They owned the sound. 187 00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:21,061 And I really have become friends with them. 188 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:24,264 I have a great deal of respect, and love, 189 00:09:24,264 --> 00:09:25,766 and admiration for them. 190 00:09:34,341 --> 00:09:36,109 It was the hottest ticket, hands down, 191 00:09:36,109 --> 00:09:37,678 in America, if not the world. 192 00:09:37,678 --> 00:09:40,147 I wouldn't say that Lollapalooza broke them, 193 00:09:40,147 --> 00:09:43,516 but Lollapalooza was broken by Pearl Jam. 194 00:09:45,018 --> 00:09:46,654 Alternative, or whatever you wanna call it-- 195 00:09:46,654 --> 00:09:49,189 grunge, punk, you know. 196 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:52,525 It was just massive. 197 00:09:53,694 --> 00:09:57,097 In '92, Generation X had really arrived, 198 00:09:57,097 --> 00:10:01,802 and the energy of the crowd was insane. 199 00:10:03,637 --> 00:10:07,808 You know, I think, to me, that kind of dancing and moshing 200 00:10:07,808 --> 00:10:09,777 was cathartic. 201 00:10:10,878 --> 00:10:12,813 One, two, three, go! 202 00:10:12,813 --> 00:10:16,249 It seems dancing at concerts has changed. 203 00:10:16,249 --> 00:10:18,151 You get a big crowd, then jump up 204 00:10:18,151 --> 00:10:20,320 and let other people throw you around. 205 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,289 - You do it... - For the rush! 206 00:10:22,289 --> 00:10:24,491 Ah, yes, for the rush. 207 00:10:24,491 --> 00:10:26,960 1992 wasn't a bright time. 208 00:10:28,028 --> 00:10:29,329 We just got through the '80s 209 00:10:29,329 --> 00:10:31,298 where everybody went nuts, right? 210 00:10:31,298 --> 00:10:32,933 No freaking jobs. 211 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:36,737 How many broken households were those kids coming from? 212 00:10:38,071 --> 00:10:40,140 America was freaking bleak. 213 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:42,009 This home video of the police 214 00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:44,211 beating up Rodney King was not enough 215 00:10:44,211 --> 00:10:46,213 to convince the jury that the officers 216 00:10:46,213 --> 00:10:48,381 were guilty of excessive use of force. 217 00:10:48,381 --> 00:10:50,317 - Outside the courthouse, 218 00:10:50,317 --> 00:10:52,485 angry demonstrators gathered to protest. 219 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:54,755 I see-- I'll tell you what, John, 220 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:58,591 I gotta see at least 40 fires going at this time. 221 00:10:58,591 --> 00:11:00,393 Police across the nation are demanding 222 00:11:00,393 --> 00:11:03,764 that Ice-T's song "Cop Killer" be pulled from store shelves. 223 00:11:03,764 --> 00:11:05,498 The New York State Sheriff's Association 224 00:11:05,498 --> 00:11:07,701 is the latest group to demand that Time Warner, 225 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:10,838 the company that is distributing the record, stop selling it. 226 00:11:10,838 --> 00:11:12,906 ICE-T: They tried to blame me for the riot. 227 00:11:12,906 --> 00:11:15,642 They lied, though. They say we made it 228 00:11:15,642 --> 00:11:17,144 as a result of Rodney King. 229 00:11:17,144 --> 00:11:19,412 But I'ma tell you, when I wrote the song, 230 00:11:19,412 --> 00:11:22,582 Rodney King, it hadn't happened to Rodney King yet. 231 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:24,417 So, they found my record and they attacked, 232 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:26,219 and for a minute, all the news went to me, 233 00:11:26,219 --> 00:11:28,421 and everybody forgot what was really going on in the streets. 234 00:11:28,421 --> 00:11:30,057 Even Vice President Dan Quayle 235 00:11:30,057 --> 00:11:31,725 has jumped on the boycott bandwagon. 236 00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:37,064 It is wrong for a powerful influential corporation 237 00:11:37,064 --> 00:11:39,967 like Time Warner to make money off a record 238 00:11:39,967 --> 00:11:43,103 that says it's okay to kill cops. 239 00:11:43,103 --> 00:11:47,274 There's so many songs that people are singing 240 00:11:47,274 --> 00:11:50,543 that aren't... you know, 241 00:11:50,543 --> 00:11:53,080 autobiographical or real. 242 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,982 This is, you know, they're metaphors. 243 00:11:54,982 --> 00:11:57,751 ♪ Ground control to Major Tom ♪ 244 00:11:57,751 --> 00:12:00,320 Was David Bowie really in the motherfucking space? 245 00:12:01,621 --> 00:12:03,924 Like, what the fuck's the matter with you? 246 00:12:09,396 --> 00:12:11,031 Let's get loud and shout! 247 00:12:11,031 --> 00:12:14,935 From Seattle, Washington, Soundgarden! 248 00:12:19,539 --> 00:12:21,975 I went to the Lollapalooza that was Soundgarden 249 00:12:21,975 --> 00:12:26,780 and Pearl Jam, which was fucking great. 250 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:29,649 And Soundgarden performed "Cop Killer." 251 00:12:29,649 --> 00:12:32,585 You gotta realize your power. 252 00:12:32,585 --> 00:12:35,188 If anybody tells you that you can't buy something 253 00:12:35,188 --> 00:12:37,858 or you can't read something, you gotta fight it. 254 00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:39,526 You gotta kick ass and make sure 255 00:12:39,526 --> 00:12:41,661 that you fucking know what's known. 256 00:12:41,661 --> 00:12:44,297 This is a song dedicated to that feeling. 257 00:12:44,297 --> 00:12:47,567 This is called "Cop Killer" by a band called Body Count. 258 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:54,908 ♪ Cop killer! ♪ 259 00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:57,744 ICE-T: I thought it was dope. 260 00:12:57,744 --> 00:13:00,580 I think anybody who does that song got balls. 261 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:03,483 "Cop Killer," man, it's like hitting that electric fence. 262 00:13:03,483 --> 00:13:05,085 Like, pow! Like, whoa! 263 00:13:09,957 --> 00:13:13,160 We all knew the cops were beating up Black people. 264 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,362 This is not a new thing. 265 00:13:15,362 --> 00:13:17,297 This is an ongoing struggle. 266 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:18,665 Get your legs back, spread 'em! 267 00:13:18,665 --> 00:13:20,500 Go on, get on over there. Get up against the car. 268 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:21,902 Get your legs back there. 269 00:13:21,902 --> 00:13:24,137 Go on, get on over there. Get on the ground. 270 00:13:24,137 --> 00:13:26,339 - I'm gonna treat you like King. - What King? 271 00:13:26,339 --> 00:13:28,541 Like Martin Luther King. Like Rodney King. 272 00:13:28,541 --> 00:13:29,910 Like all the Kings from Africa. 273 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:32,345 At the time, I was a huge Ice Cube fan. 274 00:13:32,345 --> 00:13:34,848 He had just put out his second solo record, 275 00:13:34,848 --> 00:13:36,283 "Death Certificate." 276 00:13:36,283 --> 00:13:38,418 I talked to Ice-T, and he was telling me 277 00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:40,988 about Lollapalooza, and how it was good, boom-boom-boom. 278 00:13:40,988 --> 00:13:43,556 Then I heard that they wanted to get me on there, you know, 279 00:13:43,556 --> 00:13:45,392 and he was telling me, "Yo, you know, 280 00:13:45,392 --> 00:13:47,260 "fans that's never seen you play before, 281 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:48,896 "they've been wanting to see you play. 282 00:13:48,896 --> 00:13:51,231 May be scared to go to a rap concert." 283 00:13:51,231 --> 00:13:53,400 And I said they treat you real cool. 284 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,402 You're gonna find out there's a lot of support 285 00:13:55,402 --> 00:13:57,037 out there for you, you know, 286 00:13:57,037 --> 00:13:59,639 and it's just another-- another place 287 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,875 to get the message across, and the kids need to hear it. 288 00:14:01,875 --> 00:14:04,711 ♪ Fresh out of school 'cause I was a high school grad ♪ 289 00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:07,380 ♪ Gots to get a job 'cause I was a high school dad ♪ 290 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:09,716 ♪ Wish I got paid by rappin' to the nation ♪ 291 00:14:09,716 --> 00:14:12,752 ♪ But that's not likely, so here's my application ♪ 292 00:14:12,752 --> 00:14:15,155 How political is Lollapalooza? 293 00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:18,558 It's very political, but it's on the unity tip. 294 00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:21,728 It's getting people exposed to, you know, what I'm like, 295 00:14:21,728 --> 00:14:23,964 and it's exposing me to what other people are like. 296 00:14:23,964 --> 00:14:26,233 And we got some fans from overseas there. 297 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:29,102 - This must be a trip for you. - Yeah, it's fun. 298 00:14:29,102 --> 00:14:31,804 So, how many people you guys registered today? 299 00:14:31,804 --> 00:14:33,240 Thousands. Millions. 300 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,807 - Billions. - It's incredible. 301 00:14:34,807 --> 00:14:37,444 We're registering between 800 and 1,000 people a day, 302 00:14:37,444 --> 00:14:38,711 which is unheard of. 303 00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:40,147 It's like over 100 people an hour. 304 00:14:40,147 --> 00:14:41,581 A survey of young Americans 305 00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:43,616 recently conducted by MTV and Rock the Vote 306 00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:45,953 predicts that a mix of cynicism and hope 307 00:14:45,953 --> 00:14:47,520 will drive almost three-quarters 308 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,456 of those questioned to vote this election year. 309 00:14:49,456 --> 00:14:53,126 Even though 75% of the 1,000 18 to 29-year-olds 310 00:14:53,126 --> 00:14:55,428 in the survey view politicians as quote, 311 00:14:55,428 --> 00:14:57,830 "undeserving of their trust and respect," 312 00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:59,199 an equal number plan to vote. 313 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,701 Choose or lose. You gotta vote. 314 00:15:01,701 --> 00:15:03,636 What do you guys think of Al Gore 315 00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:06,806 being chosen by Clinton as his running mate? 316 00:15:06,806 --> 00:15:09,876 I'm afraid of his wife and her witch hunters, 317 00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:11,378 and headhunters, and things like that. 318 00:15:11,378 --> 00:15:14,281 But I mean, I think Al Gore and Clinton 319 00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:18,185 is definitely a better ticket than the antichrist 320 00:15:18,185 --> 00:15:20,087 who is now running the country. 321 00:15:21,188 --> 00:15:26,026 If there is a duty in life 322 00:15:26,026 --> 00:15:29,929 assigned to each and every generation, 323 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:34,767 it is that they must turn over the world, 324 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:37,304 and nothing short. 325 00:15:37,304 --> 00:15:39,572 Don't do anything Barbara Bush wouldn't do. 326 00:15:45,412 --> 00:15:47,347 Lollapalooza was a circus, 327 00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:49,382 it was a carnival. 328 00:15:49,382 --> 00:15:51,818 It wasn't just a concert. 329 00:15:51,818 --> 00:15:55,255 To use a phrase from the '60s, it was a happening. 330 00:15:58,058 --> 00:16:01,694 One of the sights to see on Lollapalooza '92 331 00:16:01,694 --> 00:16:04,197 is the Jim Rose Circus Sideshow. 332 00:16:04,197 --> 00:16:05,698 Jim Rose, what's this all about? 333 00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:08,368 Hi, Dave, it's a human demolition spectacular. 334 00:16:08,368 --> 00:16:10,870 We're gonna be doing it on the Stage 2000. 335 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:14,241 It's a two-hour show, and it's about body altering, 336 00:16:14,241 --> 00:16:15,942 changing your body. 337 00:16:15,942 --> 00:16:19,446 This cat put on a modern twist 338 00:16:19,446 --> 00:16:21,214 on a carnival sideshow, 339 00:16:21,214 --> 00:16:24,184 where it wasn't the bearded lady, 340 00:16:24,184 --> 00:16:26,819 but it's the guy who will hang, 341 00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:30,957 you know, a 50-pound dumbbell from his balls. 342 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:35,495 Would you guys like to see that? 343 00:16:41,101 --> 00:16:44,204 With a hook. Now, let those swing! 344 00:16:49,276 --> 00:16:51,278 It was weird fucked up shit that they did. 345 00:16:51,278 --> 00:16:53,646 Lifting objects with his penis was the most incredible thing 346 00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:55,448 - I've ever seen in my life. - That was amazing. 347 00:16:55,448 --> 00:16:56,949 Ow! 348 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:59,119 I remember seeing the Jim Rose Circus Sideshow 349 00:16:59,119 --> 00:17:01,988 with Chris Cornell, and we all thought, 350 00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:03,890 this is the most disgusting thing. 351 00:17:03,890 --> 00:17:07,060 The Duke of Puke. Let's go. 352 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:08,728 You're gonna want to see this. 353 00:17:08,728 --> 00:17:11,098 He had a guy who took a tube 354 00:17:11,098 --> 00:17:13,366 and snaked it down his nose. 355 00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:20,407 And we would put in beer, ketchup, Maalox, 356 00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:22,342 and I'd pump it into the stomach. 357 00:17:22,342 --> 00:17:24,644 Now... 358 00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:27,214 What goes down must come up. 359 00:17:27,214 --> 00:17:29,216 And then I'd pull it back up. 360 00:17:33,586 --> 00:17:35,322 And the show's just starting. 361 00:17:35,322 --> 00:17:38,358 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time now for bile beer. 362 00:17:39,526 --> 00:17:41,060 Is there anybody who would like to have 363 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,429 a drink of beer with the freaks? 364 00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:45,498 I'll give 'em one free beer. Who are they? 365 00:17:45,498 --> 00:17:47,134 Who would possibly do that? 366 00:17:47,134 --> 00:17:50,103 You'd have to be completely fucking out of your mind 367 00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:52,672 - to do that. - It's Eddie! 368 00:17:52,672 --> 00:17:55,608 It's Eddie from Pearl Jam. 369 00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:57,244 Down the hatch with the freaks. 370 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,716 Eddie drank that shit, Chris Cornell drank that shit. 371 00:18:03,716 --> 00:18:05,218 I don't know who else did it, but after I was done, 372 00:18:05,218 --> 00:18:06,686 I was like, why the fuck did I do that? 373 00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:08,054 You drank bile? 374 00:18:08,054 --> 00:18:09,889 I drank the fucking bile, dude. 375 00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:15,928 That's entertainment. 376 00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:20,333 Okay, let me be serious for a minute. 377 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:23,236 We're gonna have a second stage this year, 378 00:18:23,236 --> 00:18:24,937 which I'm real into. 379 00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:28,375 Ted's not, but I am. No, we both are. 380 00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:31,244 One stage would give us enough time 381 00:18:31,244 --> 00:18:34,347 for five to seven groups at the most, right? 382 00:18:34,347 --> 00:18:36,649 If you put another stage in, 383 00:18:36,649 --> 00:18:39,486 and they could be even the younger ones, 384 00:18:39,486 --> 00:18:43,856 ones coming up that weren't quite ready for 20,000 people, 385 00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:45,658 that would be cool. 386 00:18:45,658 --> 00:18:49,162 There have been a few moments in my rock career 387 00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:51,231 where I've really been happy. 388 00:18:51,231 --> 00:18:53,366 And one of them was when Perry Farrell called me up 389 00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:56,203 and asked the new band I was in, Rage Against the Machine, 390 00:18:56,203 --> 00:18:58,271 to play the side stage at Lollapalooza. 391 00:18:58,271 --> 00:19:02,108 Just to be on that site and to-- for the first time ever, 392 00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:04,143 to be out of a little grimy club, 393 00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:06,078 I just felt sort of honored to be there. 394 00:19:06,078 --> 00:19:08,648 There was a lot of small bands played that tour. 395 00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:10,783 Stone Temple Pilots. 396 00:19:10,783 --> 00:19:13,920 Cypress Hill. And Tool. 397 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,588 So, why did you guys come to Lollapalooza this year? 398 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:17,924 - I love Perry Farrell. - We love Perry! 399 00:19:17,924 --> 00:19:21,661 In '92, I started Porno for Pyros. 400 00:19:23,196 --> 00:19:26,599 That year, Porno for Pyros played their first ever show 401 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:28,034 on the side stage. 402 00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:31,103 And what it did was show that really interesting stuff 403 00:19:31,103 --> 00:19:32,472 was gonna happen on the side stage, 404 00:19:32,472 --> 00:19:35,208 and you don't wanna miss it. 405 00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:39,078 "120 Minutes" presents the Alternative Year in Rock. 406 00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:41,047 You see it on TV, you read it in magazines, 407 00:19:41,047 --> 00:19:42,815 you hear it from your grandmother. 408 00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:47,254 1992 was a big year for alternative music. 409 00:19:47,254 --> 00:19:52,124 Lollapalooza has gone for being a fringe thing 410 00:19:52,124 --> 00:19:55,462 to actually promoting what is now 411 00:19:55,462 --> 00:19:57,230 really the popular music of the time. 412 00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:58,965 Nirvana, Red Hot Chili Peppers, 413 00:19:58,965 --> 00:20:01,634 Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Sonic Youth, 414 00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:03,436 Nine Inch Nails, Ministry, REM. 415 00:20:03,436 --> 00:20:07,774 Now, it wasn't just an artist with ideas 416 00:20:07,774 --> 00:20:11,944 curating a live playlist for an emerging fanbase 417 00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:13,513 around the nation. 418 00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:16,283 It was a bunch of big corporate record companies 419 00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:18,351 trying to jam their bands onto the bill 420 00:20:18,351 --> 00:20:19,519 to try to break them. 421 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:21,954 Record labels started calling us. 422 00:20:21,954 --> 00:20:25,292 Presidents started calling us saying, "Put my band on." 423 00:20:25,292 --> 00:20:27,059 And we're like, "No." 424 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,695 And they're like, "What do you mean? 425 00:20:28,695 --> 00:20:30,196 Do you know who I am?" 426 00:20:30,196 --> 00:20:31,698 And I'm like, "Yeah, I know who you are." 427 00:20:31,698 --> 00:20:33,866 We weren't gonna be told what to do by anybody. 428 00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:39,038 Let's see here. 429 00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:41,107 What do we have on '93? 430 00:20:41,107 --> 00:20:45,044 I see Primus, Alice in Chains, Dinosaur Jr., 431 00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:49,616 Fishbone, Arrested, 242, Babes in Toyland. 432 00:20:49,616 --> 00:20:53,019 Tool must have opened. Oh, and Rage. 433 00:20:57,457 --> 00:20:59,792 ♪ Hey, yo, it's just another bomb... ♪ 434 00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:02,495 In '93, there's no Jane's Addiction, 435 00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:05,231 there's no Perry fronting Porno as the first thing, 436 00:21:05,231 --> 00:21:08,067 there's no sort of ringing endorsement necessarily. 437 00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:11,237 He's more removed, even though he's not. 438 00:21:11,237 --> 00:21:13,039 He's not playing. 439 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:15,842 So, Lolla has to stand on its own two feet. 440 00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:20,212 ♪ It goes a-one, two, three ♪ 441 00:21:20,212 --> 00:21:22,349 ♪ And it's just another bombtrack ♪ 442 00:21:22,349 --> 00:21:24,684 ♪ And suckers be thinking that they can fade this ♪ 443 00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:27,754 ♪ But I'm gonna drop it at a higher level... ♪ 444 00:21:27,754 --> 00:21:30,890 I went and checked out Rage Against the Machine. 445 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:34,394 I knew they were gonna be just unbelievable. 446 00:21:44,003 --> 00:21:46,573 The sheer, like, balls-out 447 00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:51,411 was technically brilliant. 448 00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:57,417 So, '93, Rage Against the Machine 449 00:21:57,417 --> 00:22:00,052 was playing like at 1:30 in the afternoon. 450 00:22:00,052 --> 00:22:02,922 People sitting down with their beers and their hot dogs. 451 00:22:02,922 --> 00:22:05,725 ♪ Burn, burn, yes, you're gonna burn ♪ 452 00:22:05,725 --> 00:22:08,094 And on comes Rage Against the Machine 453 00:22:08,094 --> 00:22:10,830 with huge riffs and screeching solos, 454 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:12,732 and you know, Zack pontificating 455 00:22:12,732 --> 00:22:15,835 about the evils of imperialism. 456 00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:18,304 And people were just-- their ears were pinned back, 457 00:22:18,304 --> 00:22:20,940 and we were done by, like, 2:15. 458 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:22,341 ♪ Burn! ♪ 459 00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:28,180 A Rage Against the Machine show is issue-oriented. 460 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:30,116 Every time a band steps up on a stage, 461 00:22:30,116 --> 00:22:32,184 it's-- you know, it's a platform to say something. 462 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:34,621 I don't think that we should be fooled now, 463 00:22:34,621 --> 00:22:36,389 just because Clinton's in office, 464 00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:39,325 that he isn't serving many of the same interests 465 00:22:39,325 --> 00:22:41,594 that Reagan and Bush served, and it's our responsibility 466 00:22:41,594 --> 00:22:43,095 to organize and to stay on top 467 00:22:43,095 --> 00:22:45,297 and keep pressuring and keep confronting. 468 00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:48,234 You voted. Now, you're invited. 469 00:22:48,234 --> 00:22:49,969 Live from Washington D.C., 470 00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:52,739 MTV's "Rock N' Roll Inaugural Ball." 471 00:22:54,907 --> 00:22:57,477 Ladies and gentlemen, the Vice President 472 00:22:57,477 --> 00:23:00,346 of the United States and Mrs. Gore. 473 00:23:01,581 --> 00:23:03,282 You have Tipper Gore 474 00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:05,818 and her organization PMRC 475 00:23:05,818 --> 00:23:08,821 trying to tamp down free thought. 476 00:23:08,821 --> 00:23:13,125 All we're interested in is a way to make a quick decision 477 00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:16,963 in a record store of stuff that's positive, 478 00:23:16,963 --> 00:23:19,566 terrific, and great, over some content 479 00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:21,734 that's extremely explicit and violent, 480 00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:23,736 and refers to drugs. 481 00:23:23,736 --> 00:23:26,806 It had gotten to the point where I think every one of us 482 00:23:26,806 --> 00:23:28,307 were like, "Why is this happening?" 483 00:23:28,307 --> 00:23:32,078 The subculture is being celebrated in the mainstream. 484 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:34,380 You could buy Alternative Press Magazine 485 00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:35,682 at the supermarket. 486 00:23:35,682 --> 00:23:38,050 We rocked the vote, all right. 487 00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:40,820 The initial Rock the Vote campaign 488 00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:42,655 that was started at Lollapalooza, 489 00:23:42,655 --> 00:23:45,391 of course he benefitted. 490 00:23:45,391 --> 00:23:47,494 Thank you very much for helping change 491 00:23:47,494 --> 00:23:49,829 the course of your country. 492 00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:54,300 And Rage decided, "Well, we have to do something." 493 00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:59,305 We had the idea to do a protest. 494 00:24:00,607 --> 00:24:02,909 Layne Staley had never seen Rage play. 495 00:24:02,909 --> 00:24:05,144 Alice in Chains was headlining, so he was later in the day. 496 00:24:05,144 --> 00:24:06,579 So, he came that day. 497 00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:08,147 So, he's standing on the side of the stage like, 498 00:24:08,147 --> 00:24:10,116 "Man, I heard your band's great. I can't wait to see you guys." 499 00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:12,585 I'm like, "Layne, you're going to see us. 500 00:24:12,585 --> 00:24:15,287 You're going to see us very soon." 501 00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:17,256 No one else knows, no one in the crew, 502 00:24:17,256 --> 00:24:20,059 Layne Staley-- nobody knows. 503 00:24:20,059 --> 00:24:21,894 It's time to go. We take off our clothes. 504 00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:24,531 ♪ No more lies, unh! ♪ 505 00:24:24,531 --> 00:24:27,767 Tom Morello's mother was my high school history teacher. 506 00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:30,302 She's a really avid First Amendment supporter, 507 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:35,041 and you know, Tom inherited, you know, those leanings. 508 00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:39,045 She's actually the radical in the family, to be honest. 509 00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:43,583 I just remember thinking, how long is he gonna do this? 510 00:24:43,583 --> 00:24:45,518 And I couldn't believe it, and I thought, 511 00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:48,521 wow, that's really, really brave and committed. 512 00:24:48,521 --> 00:24:50,923 But then part of me was like, you know, there's other ways 513 00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:54,460 to do it. 514 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:57,797 Well, I wasn't there, but I sure saw the pictures. 515 00:24:57,797 --> 00:25:00,166 That was before manscaping. 516 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:03,202 How cool, though? 517 00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:07,740 Take your cock out, man, that's fucking-- that's heavy. 518 00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:11,678 It's "120 Minutes," I'm Lewis Largent, 519 00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:13,512 and right now I'm in an Alice in Chains sandwich. 520 00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,347 I'm gonna give you the mic, and you introduce yourself. 521 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:19,451 Jerry Cantrell, codpiece extraordinaire. 522 00:25:19,451 --> 00:25:24,056 ♪ Yeah ♪ 523 00:25:25,825 --> 00:25:29,095 ♪ What's my drug of choice ♪ 524 00:25:29,095 --> 00:25:30,930 The line-ups of Lolla 525 00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:37,469 have been very dude-heavy for years. 526 00:25:37,469 --> 00:25:42,842 That kind of booking really shuns women in bands, 527 00:25:42,842 --> 00:25:44,911 and there have always been women in bands. 528 00:25:44,911 --> 00:25:47,780 Okay, backstage again at Lollapalooza '93, 529 00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:49,582 and we are here with Babes in Toyland, 530 00:25:49,582 --> 00:25:53,185 the lone babes on the Lollapalooza bill. 531 00:25:53,185 --> 00:25:55,487 Do you think there's any truth in the criticism... 532 00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:57,156 - Lone babes? - Yeah. 533 00:25:57,156 --> 00:25:59,091 Everybody's babes in the universe. 534 00:26:00,259 --> 00:26:01,327 On the first day of this tour, 535 00:26:01,327 --> 00:26:04,330 this elderly man in a blue satin vest 536 00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:06,032 with a swirly psychedelic pattern 537 00:26:06,032 --> 00:26:10,002 comes up to us and says, "I love your band." 538 00:26:10,002 --> 00:26:15,808 ♪ You got this thing that really makes me hot ♪ 539 00:26:15,808 --> 00:26:18,678 And he started, like, singing "Bruise Violet," 540 00:26:18,678 --> 00:26:21,080 one of our songs, and like, playing air guitar. 541 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,481 And I was just like, oh my God. 542 00:26:22,481 --> 00:26:24,984 You know, I recognized him as Timothy Leary. 543 00:26:24,984 --> 00:26:29,321 Turn on, tune in, drop out. 544 00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:32,358 So, he introduced us at the shows. 545 00:26:32,358 --> 00:26:35,261 It's Lollapalooza '93. 546 00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:38,831 And we've got one of the greatest bands 547 00:26:38,831 --> 00:26:41,067 of the 21st century. 548 00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:46,138 From Minneapolis, Babes in Toyland! 549 00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:55,481 The one thing that was hard with Lollapalooza 550 00:26:55,481 --> 00:26:57,684 was we had to spend a lot of money 551 00:26:57,684 --> 00:27:00,019 because we were women, you know? 552 00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:02,554 Basically to tour. 553 00:27:02,554 --> 00:27:05,324 ♪ Yeah... ♪ 554 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:09,095 They had showers set up for like the roadies and stuff, 555 00:27:09,095 --> 00:27:10,763 and the bands could use 'em. 556 00:27:10,763 --> 00:27:12,431 Except like, for us, it was like, 557 00:27:12,431 --> 00:27:13,800 "Oh, do you really wanna-- 558 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,634 do you really wanna shower with the truckers?" 559 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:20,807 You know, so-- so we would get day rooms in the hotels, 560 00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:22,308 which kinda cost us money. 561 00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:23,943 So, I remember I came home from Lollapalooza 562 00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:25,812 and had to borrow rent money from my mom. 563 00:27:37,356 --> 00:27:39,225 You did? Well, you had a reason 564 00:27:39,225 --> 00:27:41,127 - to do that, so... - I was pissed. 565 00:27:41,127 --> 00:27:43,262 - Yeah. - Pissed off. 566 00:27:43,262 --> 00:27:45,965 And drunk and on ecstasy at the same time. 567 00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:47,666 Isn't it supposed to make you happy? 568 00:27:49,035 --> 00:27:51,570 My friend Tom Morello, who I went to high school with, 569 00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:53,472 and my friend Adam Jones from Tool, 570 00:27:53,472 --> 00:27:55,107 who I went to high school with, 571 00:27:55,107 --> 00:27:58,377 we all played Lollapalooza the same year, which was crazy. 572 00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:00,947 It's just so crazy. 573 00:28:00,947 --> 00:28:02,815 And were you kinda nervous going up on the big stage? 574 00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,717 Yeah, yeah. There's far too many kids, 575 00:28:04,717 --> 00:28:07,820 and they're very intimidating, and they didn't like us. 576 00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:09,421 - They didn't like you? - No. 577 00:28:09,421 --> 00:28:10,890 - I couldn't tell. - I don't buy that for... 578 00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:12,825 They were fucking going like this, I couldn't tell. 579 00:28:12,825 --> 00:28:14,226 - That's a good thing. - I think they were looking 580 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:15,561 - for something. - No, that's a good thing. 581 00:28:15,561 --> 00:28:17,229 Adam Jones, the guitarist of Tool, 582 00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:18,597 and Maureen Herman, the bass player 583 00:28:18,597 --> 00:28:21,267 of Babes in Toyland, we were all in the same 584 00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:23,602 kinda high school classes, close friends. 585 00:28:23,602 --> 00:28:27,606 And we woke up one day, like on adjacent tour buses, 586 00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:29,942 going like, "What hath God wrought?" 587 00:28:29,942 --> 00:28:33,312 And here we were in '93 touring the nation together 588 00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:36,515 on the most anticipated tour of the summer. 589 00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:41,821 Two bands had graduated from the small stage, 590 00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:43,689 being Rage Against the Machine and Tool, 591 00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:46,325 to being now part headliners there. 592 00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:49,595 It was a great nod 593 00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:52,431 to the visionary side of Lollapalooza. 594 00:28:52,431 --> 00:28:56,335 ♪ It took so long to remember just what happened ♪ 595 00:28:56,335 --> 00:28:58,670 ♪ I was so young and vestal then ♪ 596 00:28:58,670 --> 00:29:01,107 By the time '93 came around, 597 00:29:01,107 --> 00:29:03,375 we're playing these gigantic venues. 598 00:29:03,375 --> 00:29:06,779 A lot of the places that we're playing are fields. 599 00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:08,280 What else can we do? 600 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,083 And it was decided, well, we'll have another stage. 601 00:29:12,284 --> 00:29:15,654 A third stage. We'll do more music. 602 00:29:15,654 --> 00:29:18,657 John put ads in fanzines, 603 00:29:18,657 --> 00:29:20,492 "Do you wanna play on Lollapalooza?" 604 00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:24,997 If you walked in his office, there were cassette tapes 605 00:29:24,997 --> 00:29:27,433 at least two-feet deep, 606 00:29:27,433 --> 00:29:30,402 and John would be sitting on the floor with a boombox 607 00:29:30,402 --> 00:29:33,505 literally listening to all of them. 608 00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:35,875 ♪ Soon to fall ♪ 609 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:37,609 I liked the band Sebadoh, 610 00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:39,711 and the main person in that band 611 00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:42,681 used to be in Dinosaur Jr. 612 00:29:44,716 --> 00:29:47,719 I really liked the band Mercury Rev an awful lot. 613 00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:52,825 They added this musicality and dimension 614 00:29:52,825 --> 00:29:55,327 that wasn't featured on the main stage. 615 00:29:56,662 --> 00:29:58,931 The other thing that was important that year 616 00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:00,499 was to include local bands. 617 00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:07,773 So, it wasn't just this elitist corporate festival coming in. 618 00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:12,044 By now, Lollapalooza is a mainstream phenomenon, 619 00:30:12,044 --> 00:30:15,781 and there's something that a lot of those Lollapalooza bands 620 00:30:15,781 --> 00:30:17,116 have in common. 621 00:30:17,116 --> 00:30:18,951 I call it punk rock guilt. 622 00:30:18,951 --> 00:30:21,787 These were bands that had a point of view 623 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:26,225 that was dismissive of sort of the arena rock vibe. 624 00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:28,060 And yet, they were selling enough records 625 00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:29,395 to be playing arenas. 626 00:30:29,395 --> 00:30:32,431 This caused a real, you know, in-- 627 00:30:32,431 --> 00:30:35,134 I know it was in Kurt Cobain and I know it was in Eddie Vedder. 628 00:30:35,134 --> 00:30:37,003 I know it was in my band, I know it was in Nine Inch Nails, 629 00:30:37,003 --> 00:30:39,071 I know it was in Tool. Not that long ago, 630 00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:40,739 bands that you despised 631 00:30:40,739 --> 00:30:42,674 were playing those arenas. Have you become them? 632 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:48,014 ♪ I'm not like them, but I can pretend ♪ 633 00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:50,917 ♪ The sun is gone, but I have... ♪ 634 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,306 Nirvana, the Beastie Boys, 635 00:31:14,306 --> 00:31:17,609 and the Pumpkins, we all had meetings. 636 00:31:17,609 --> 00:31:20,779 We had George Clinton and Nick Cave, 637 00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:23,349 and the Breeders, Stereolab, and Patti Smith, 638 00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:25,184 and the Verve, and The Pharcyde. 639 00:31:25,184 --> 00:31:29,455 And that year was gonna be epic. 640 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:33,559 So, we were planning the festival, 641 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,462 and Nirvana thought about it, but you know, 642 00:31:36,462 --> 00:31:38,164 decided that they couldn't do it. 643 00:31:38,164 --> 00:31:39,298 Kurt couldn't do it. 644 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:42,634 Kurt was terrified of selling out, 645 00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:45,237 and Lolla was a sell-out moment I think for them. 646 00:31:46,572 --> 00:31:48,474 You know, he very clearly at that point 647 00:31:48,474 --> 00:31:51,143 was talking about how he looked in the audience 648 00:31:51,143 --> 00:31:54,246 and he saw all the people that were beating him up in school. 649 00:31:54,246 --> 00:31:56,015 And me too, right? 650 00:31:56,015 --> 00:31:59,285 Like, Nirvana was, you know, everything to us. 651 00:31:59,285 --> 00:32:03,789 When you're alongside something that once-in-a-generation, 652 00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:07,893 once-in-a-lifetime, it just affects you in every way. 653 00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:12,864 I had heard that Kurt escaped from a rehab, 654 00:32:12,864 --> 00:32:16,768 and they actually wondered if I knew where he was. 655 00:32:19,071 --> 00:32:21,407 So, I did not know where he was. 656 00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:23,642 And then... 657 00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:28,214 a few days later... 658 00:32:28,214 --> 00:32:31,017 they told me that he had shot himself. 659 00:32:32,251 --> 00:32:34,053 Kurt Cobain, the leader of one of rock's 660 00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:37,056 most gifted and promising bands, Nirvana, is dead. 661 00:32:37,056 --> 00:32:39,791 Police found what is said to be a suicide note at the scene, 662 00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,728 but have not yet divulged its contents. 663 00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:45,364 And we're really gonna miss him. He was a very sweet man. 664 00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:48,234 Nirvana was a very, very bright and promising group, 665 00:32:48,234 --> 00:32:50,202 and that promise has now been pretty much extinguished. 666 00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:57,376 I just don't even want to accept it, 'cause... 667 00:32:59,745 --> 00:33:01,113 then it just means you carry on, 668 00:33:01,113 --> 00:33:02,814 and that just seems really strange. 669 00:33:03,949 --> 00:33:06,152 And yet, if you don't, what does that mean, you know? 670 00:33:10,256 --> 00:33:12,458 I think everyone felt in shock. 671 00:33:12,458 --> 00:33:14,026 I think-- of course. 672 00:33:14,026 --> 00:33:15,794 I mean, it was so tragic and horrible. 673 00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:19,231 So, when Kurt died, it almost felt like kinda-- 674 00:33:19,231 --> 00:33:21,333 it was the end of an era. 675 00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,040 There's a magical place with band after band 676 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,409 playing magical music while you get sun-tanned. 677 00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:32,178 Lollapalooza! 678 00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:34,480 Here comes the coolest apparition this summer. 679 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,249 Smashing Pumpkins, Beastie Boys, The Breeders, 680 00:33:37,249 --> 00:33:39,118 George Clinton, L7, 681 00:33:39,118 --> 00:33:40,586 plus mucho more. 682 00:33:40,586 --> 00:33:42,688 Between bands, look into the future 683 00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:44,690 down the Lollapalooza super highway, 684 00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,858 the online cyberlink that lets you talk 685 00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:48,794 long-distance via computer. 686 00:33:48,794 --> 00:33:50,996 Lollapalooza '94, a hypnotic way 687 00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:52,464 to spend a hot spell. 688 00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:54,166 This MTV Lollapalooza Tour... 689 00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:09,648 When Kurt passed, I think everyone decided 690 00:34:09,648 --> 00:34:14,820 we have to continue celebrating 691 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:16,988 what it is to be the Kurts of the world. 692 00:34:16,988 --> 00:34:19,291 Because everybody has to be their own person, you know? 693 00:34:19,291 --> 00:34:22,294 I mean, you can't always depend on other people 694 00:34:22,294 --> 00:34:24,696 to let yourself go the right path. 695 00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:27,666 And what happened that summer is everyone came together. 696 00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:34,473 ♪ We were rich once before your head exploded ♪ 697 00:34:34,473 --> 00:34:38,009 ♪ Imagine doing just what the Big Bang did ♪ 698 00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:46,718 ♪ The whole world knew it was loaded ♪ 699 00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:51,657 ♪ Wave bye-bye 'cause it ain't ever coming down now ♪ 700 00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:57,396 Somebody said, you know, 701 00:34:57,396 --> 00:35:00,366 the big whiny college rock comment, 702 00:35:00,366 --> 00:35:03,269 "There's nothing alternative about Lollapalooza anymore." 703 00:35:03,269 --> 00:35:07,473 To me, alternative-- I would think it would just mean 704 00:35:07,473 --> 00:35:10,376 an alternative frame of mind. 705 00:35:10,376 --> 00:35:14,146 People that are into, like, peace, and science, 706 00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:15,781 and music, and art. 707 00:35:17,015 --> 00:35:18,684 Hey, even Parrotheads love this, man. 708 00:35:18,684 --> 00:35:20,186 We're all into this kind of music. 709 00:35:20,186 --> 00:35:21,487 It's a good thing, you got all these people 710 00:35:21,487 --> 00:35:23,021 from different-- I mean, different types of people 711 00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:24,723 listen to this music, it's just a great thing. 712 00:35:24,723 --> 00:35:26,225 It's a great-- I mean, I can't beat this. 713 00:35:26,225 --> 00:35:28,494 I got people here with me that have never seen this kind-- 714 00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:30,329 listened to this kind of music before, you know, 715 00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:34,166 I'm breaking 'em into it, stuff, making 'em listen to XRT, Q101. 716 00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:37,736 The irony of alternative is, once you identify it, 717 00:35:37,736 --> 00:35:41,473 market to it, label it, you can't inhabit it 718 00:35:41,473 --> 00:35:43,575 as alternative anymore, 'cause it's not. 719 00:35:43,575 --> 00:35:46,545 And so, I think in many ways, 720 00:35:46,545 --> 00:35:49,080 what we tried to do on the main stage, 721 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,483 and what we tried to do on the second stage 722 00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:55,120 is make sure that we were pushing the envelope creatively. 723 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,323 My man, would you like to dance? 724 00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:59,925 Future husband material, ladies and gentlemen. 725 00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:01,460 - Future husband material. - Pass him up here. 726 00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:03,262 - Bring him up here. - Wrap him in swaddling cloth 727 00:36:03,262 --> 00:36:04,796 and take him backstage. 728 00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:09,901 See, now you all could have come backstage 729 00:36:09,901 --> 00:36:12,571 if you had "L7" shaved into your head. 730 00:36:12,571 --> 00:36:15,874 L7 was from the L.A. underground art punk scene, 731 00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:19,311 and we had such high hopes for Lollapalooza in '94. 732 00:36:19,311 --> 00:36:23,081 But we were tapping our feet going, okay... 733 00:36:23,081 --> 00:36:25,384 when are we getting the call? 734 00:36:25,384 --> 00:36:27,586 So, we send a fax to this meeting 735 00:36:27,586 --> 00:36:31,290 that says, "Dear Lollapalooza, 736 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:35,461 who does L7 have to blow to serve Coors at Lollapalooza?" 737 00:36:35,461 --> 00:36:36,895 And it was signed, 738 00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:40,632 "L, always the bridesmaids, never the brides, 7." 739 00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:42,368 - Yippee! - Here, kitty, kitty, kitty, 740 00:36:42,368 --> 00:36:44,803 - kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty... - Boom-boom. 741 00:36:44,803 --> 00:36:49,107 So, we got the offer, but we had to push the issue, 742 00:36:49,107 --> 00:36:50,976 and we had to fight for it. 743 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:55,647 'Cause that's how much we wanted to be on Lollapalooza. 744 00:36:55,647 --> 00:36:57,683 And more importantly, that's how much 745 00:36:57,683 --> 00:37:00,352 we felt we deserved to be on Lollapalooza. 746 00:37:00,352 --> 00:37:04,723 But we've-- we've had to kick down doors a lot in our career. 747 00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:08,260 ♪ Down in North Hollywood ♪ 748 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:11,330 ♪ There's a guy with long hair... ♪ 749 00:37:11,330 --> 00:37:13,999 I don't think that women were represented 750 00:37:13,999 --> 00:37:16,335 nearly enough at Lollapalooza. 751 00:37:16,335 --> 00:37:18,370 But when they were represented, 752 00:37:18,370 --> 00:37:20,171 they were there because they rock. 753 00:37:24,376 --> 00:37:26,812 First year of Lolla, you have Siouxsie. 754 00:37:26,812 --> 00:37:30,349 Second year, only women on the bill are Lush. 755 00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:33,852 And then, year three, you have Babes in Toyland. 756 00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:37,489 And there was women in Arrested Development too. 757 00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:41,360 ♪ Turn the tables with our unity ♪ 758 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,963 ♪ They're neither moral nor majority... ♪ 759 00:37:46,332 --> 00:37:48,667 You know, but you look at that now and just go, 760 00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:51,437 seems like women were an afterthought. 761 00:37:51,437 --> 00:37:55,006 Which is really wild, because it was women. 762 00:37:55,006 --> 00:37:58,009 It was women who really helped break alternative music. 763 00:38:03,415 --> 00:38:05,451 You know, people say, "Oh, it's noise." 764 00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:07,419 - Like, you know, it's... - Yeah. 765 00:38:07,419 --> 00:38:14,360 I mean, we didn't set out to be noisy or industrial, or... 766 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,262 We were heavily influenced by the early Beastie Boys. 767 00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:19,297 - Yeah. - Early hardcore. 768 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,435 ♪ Ahh, ahh... ♪ 769 00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:25,437 Entertainment Weekly came out to do a shoot 770 00:38:25,437 --> 00:38:28,039 at one of the shows, and then the issue comes out, 771 00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,342 and I think they probably thought 772 00:38:30,342 --> 00:38:31,710 when they were choosing pictures 773 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:33,612 that it was one of me rocking out. 774 00:38:33,612 --> 00:38:37,516 But it was actually me, like, pulling up my bra strap. 775 00:38:37,516 --> 00:38:40,018 And I'm like... 776 00:38:40,018 --> 00:38:41,687 And I'm sure nobody noticed, but I'm like, 777 00:38:41,687 --> 00:38:43,889 of course, I get on the cover with my tongue sticking out 778 00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:46,224 pulling up my bra strap. 779 00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:47,559 Who did you come to see today? 780 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:48,827 Oh, I came to see A Tribe Called Quest 781 00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,228 and Smashing Pumpkins. 782 00:38:50,228 --> 00:38:51,296 - And the Beastie Boys. - And the Beastie Boys. 783 00:38:51,296 --> 00:38:52,931 - L7. - L7 and Flaming Lips. 784 00:38:52,931 --> 00:38:54,099 - Yeah. - George Clinton! 785 00:38:54,099 --> 00:38:55,434 So, everybody I've talked to today 786 00:38:55,434 --> 00:38:58,069 is really excited about having you on this tour. 787 00:38:58,069 --> 00:39:00,439 I'm glad, 'cause we was worried. We was worried, you know. 788 00:39:00,439 --> 00:39:02,408 George, you don't know, you have so many admirers 789 00:39:02,408 --> 00:39:03,709 - on this tour. - Well, you know, 790 00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:06,011 we usually have three or four hours and stuff. 791 00:39:06,011 --> 00:39:08,480 You know, we had to cut it down to 45. 792 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,348 And we tried to conform, even though people 793 00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:11,617 don't believe we'd do that. 794 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:16,555 Describe George Clinton, 'cause George Clinton's a trip. 795 00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:18,056 Yeah, he was, like, really wild. 796 00:39:18,056 --> 00:39:19,425 There was this guy in diapers, and then he was like... 797 00:39:19,425 --> 00:39:20,926 - Wedding dress. - Yeah, and then he would-- 798 00:39:20,926 --> 00:39:22,428 then he changed into a wedding dress, 799 00:39:22,428 --> 00:39:23,929 and then he had on these, like, little fur things, 800 00:39:23,929 --> 00:39:26,432 and then his underpants, so he's bending over like that. 801 00:39:26,432 --> 00:39:30,502 ♪ That's it, goddamn, the old-school way to jam ♪ 802 00:39:30,502 --> 00:39:35,841 There I was, 1994, partying with some of the crew 803 00:39:35,841 --> 00:39:39,411 of George Clinton's band. 804 00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:44,950 That's why I don't remember that much about it. 805 00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:49,187 ♪ All sons of bitches, all sons of bitches ♪ 806 00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:55,360 Welcome to dollop of losers. How was your first couple shows? 807 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,228 - Um... - It rocked, man. 808 00:39:57,228 --> 00:39:58,664 - They did the wave. - That was right. 809 00:39:58,664 --> 00:40:00,031 - They did the wave. - They did that rock wave thing. 810 00:40:00,031 --> 00:40:01,533 It was cool, I guess. 811 00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:03,068 Thank you very much. Thank you. 812 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:06,071 I very seldom hear Perry say no, 813 00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:09,074 except when he said no to Green Day. 814 00:40:09,074 --> 00:40:13,812 Mo Ostin was still the president at Warner Brothers, 815 00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:16,948 and he had this new group that he had discovered. 816 00:40:16,948 --> 00:40:20,185 ♪ I sit around and watch the tube ♪ 817 00:40:20,185 --> 00:40:23,021 ♪ But nothing's on ♪ 818 00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:25,891 Then he took me into his office to ask, 819 00:40:25,891 --> 00:40:28,159 "Would you put 'em on Lollapalooza?" 820 00:40:30,596 --> 00:40:34,299 I told him no at first because I didn't want him 821 00:40:34,299 --> 00:40:36,201 to think he could just come to me 822 00:40:36,201 --> 00:40:39,971 and put people on there. 823 00:40:39,971 --> 00:40:41,707 It doesn't work that way. 824 00:40:43,909 --> 00:40:45,276 But I was like, "Dude, why?" 825 00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:49,515 I was like, "Listen, they inhabit the gumption, 826 00:40:49,515 --> 00:40:51,282 "attitude, and posturing. 827 00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:54,853 It reminds me a lot of you back in the day." 828 00:40:54,853 --> 00:40:58,123 So, Perry's compromise was, "I'm gonna book the Boredoms." 829 00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:05,631 So, they'll do half and Green Day 830 00:41:05,631 --> 00:41:06,865 will do the other half. 831 00:41:07,933 --> 00:41:11,937 ♪ You're the cloud hanging out over my head ♪ 832 00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:15,974 In '92, '93, '94, there was a band 833 00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:18,677 that was on the rise that actually would steal the show. 834 00:41:18,677 --> 00:41:22,413 So, in '92, it was Pearl Jam, '93, it was Rage, 835 00:41:22,413 --> 00:41:24,315 and in '94, it was Green Day. 836 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,519 So, there's this band on the rise 837 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,454 that was playing earlier in the day 838 00:41:29,454 --> 00:41:32,558 that was almost as popular as the headliner. 839 00:41:32,558 --> 00:41:34,593 Hi, this is Billy from the Smashing Pumpkins. 840 00:41:34,593 --> 00:41:37,062 I'm here with my longtime bandmate, 841 00:41:37,062 --> 00:41:39,631 Mr. James "Eye-ha." 842 00:41:39,631 --> 00:41:41,900 Wait, that's "Ee-ha." 843 00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:46,271 Let's take this opportunity to demystify the woman in rock. 844 00:41:46,271 --> 00:41:48,306 Seeing as people always ask us this stupid question, 845 00:41:48,306 --> 00:41:49,908 let's ask each other the stupid question. 846 00:41:49,908 --> 00:41:53,478 I was just gonna ask you not to ask me any stupid questions. 847 00:41:53,478 --> 00:41:56,514 For me, that year was the peak of Lollapalooza. 848 00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:57,816 There were some of the most 849 00:41:57,816 --> 00:41:59,317 magical performances that summer. 850 00:41:59,317 --> 00:42:00,786 I got to see the Beastie Boys every single night. 851 00:42:00,786 --> 00:42:04,856 ♪ I can't stand it, I know you planned it ♪ 852 00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:07,292 ♪ I'm gonna set it straight, this Watergate ♪ 853 00:42:07,292 --> 00:42:10,128 ♪ I can't stand rocking when I'm in here ♪ 854 00:42:10,128 --> 00:42:13,198 ♪ Your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear, so... ♪ 855 00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:14,532 I mean, say what you will 856 00:42:14,532 --> 00:42:16,534 about the Beastie Boys and the Smashing Pumpkins 857 00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:19,004 becoming mainstream. 858 00:42:19,004 --> 00:42:21,973 Both those acts earned their place 859 00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:25,577 because the audience that was there revered them both. 860 00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:27,145 And I can honestly say that the Beasties 861 00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:29,347 have a lot of influence on a lot of the bands 862 00:42:29,347 --> 00:42:30,649 that are on the bill this year, 863 00:42:30,649 --> 00:42:32,751 so maybe you wanna talk about that. 864 00:42:32,751 --> 00:42:36,354 Um... well... 865 00:42:36,354 --> 00:42:37,823 Well, okay, I'm... 866 00:42:37,823 --> 00:42:40,859 Turned out to be an unbelievable year. 867 00:42:40,859 --> 00:42:44,329 Set attendance records, Green Day was breaking. 868 00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:47,432 That was probably the end of phase one that year. 869 00:42:49,534 --> 00:42:51,670 ♪ 'Cause you can't, you won't, and you don't stop ♪ 870 00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:53,972 ♪ 'Cause you can't, you won't, and you don't stop ♪ 871 00:42:53,972 --> 00:42:57,408 By that point, Lollapalooza was bigger 872 00:42:57,408 --> 00:42:59,244 than we could have imagined. 873 00:42:59,244 --> 00:43:01,680 ♪ And I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew, yeah ♪ 874 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,014 ♪ 'Cause you can't, you won't, and you don't stop... ♪ 875 00:43:03,014 --> 00:43:05,851 It was going so well, and you know, 876 00:43:05,851 --> 00:43:09,320 when the car is rolling and it's going real, real fast, 877 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,657 it gets harder and harder to jump out. 878 00:43:11,657 --> 00:43:15,460 ♪ Rock the sure shot... ♪ 879 00:43:19,264 --> 00:43:23,802 I remember the press in '94 slagging us, 880 00:43:23,802 --> 00:43:27,338 saying Lollapalooza has lost it. 881 00:43:27,338 --> 00:43:31,476 Lollapalooza was never designed to be a festival 882 00:43:31,476 --> 00:43:33,712 of platinum-selling acts. 883 00:43:33,712 --> 00:43:37,248 So, I think we hit a little bit of a bump in the road then. 884 00:43:39,885 --> 00:43:41,386 When I found out that Metallica 885 00:43:41,386 --> 00:43:43,689 was going to be on Lollapalooza, 886 00:43:43,689 --> 00:43:47,659 my first thought was, 887 00:43:47,659 --> 00:43:51,262 what the fuck do they have to do with Lollapalooza? 888 00:43:51,262 --> 00:43:53,331 Oh my God. 889 00:43:53,331 --> 00:43:56,534 Here come the bad boys of hard rock. 890 00:43:56,534 --> 00:43:58,103 Ooh! 891 00:43:58,103 --> 00:44:03,308 ♪ Obey your master ♪ 66818

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