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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:07,011 --> 00:01:08,680 ...promise from the authorities 2 00:01:08,713 --> 00:01:11,950 that there would be some change, 3 00:01:11,983 --> 00:01:14,451 the pressure for reform is gathering pace 4 00:01:14,485 --> 00:01:17,354 and is gathering support. 5 00:01:17,387 --> 00:01:20,825 Differences between capitalism and communism is so strong 6 00:01:20,859 --> 00:01:23,527 that only concrete and barbed wire could hold them... 7 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,832 We want another way to reconstruct our society. 8 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:32,336 On the streets of East German cities, 9 00:01:32,369 --> 00:01:34,671 scores of people demanding democratic reforms 10 00:01:34,706 --> 00:01:36,373 were dragged off by... 11 00:01:36,406 --> 00:01:38,642 Security police dragged individuals 12 00:01:38,675 --> 00:01:41,613 from the crowd, beating them over the head, 13 00:01:41,645 --> 00:01:44,916 and throwing them into the back of waiting lorries. 14 00:01:46,464 --> 00:01:48,214 I was born in 1971. 15 00:01:48,464 --> 00:01:51,547 I turned 18 in 1989, when the Berlin Wall came down. 16 00:01:52,547 --> 00:01:55,214 I remember being glued to my radio 17 00:01:55,589 --> 00:01:58,797 listening to the fall of the communist regime. 18 00:02:02,131 --> 00:02:07,547 As a student, I travelled to Romania, Hungary and Russia. 19 00:02:12,547 --> 00:02:16,547 So I personally know the impact this collapse had. 20 00:02:24,131 --> 00:02:26,881 I saw an economic and social system 21 00:02:27,131 --> 00:02:29,589 in a complete state of failure. 22 00:02:36,048 --> 00:02:41,215 A political system that had promised human emancipation, 23 00:02:41,506 --> 00:02:44,048 but instead ended up producing misery 24 00:02:44,090 --> 00:02:45,881 and incredible political repression. 25 00:03:10,340 --> 00:03:14,715 And when the fraud of the communist promise was exposed 26 00:03:14,757 --> 00:03:16,298 and it collapsed, 27 00:03:16,340 --> 00:03:21,340 it greatly reinforced the capitalist argument. 28 00:03:21,382 --> 00:03:23,299 The problem was that it went too far. 29 00:03:23,449 --> 00:03:24,550 ♪ Cristal, Maybach ♪ 30 00:03:24,583 --> 00:03:25,986 ♪ Diamonds on your timepiece ♪ 31 00:03:26,018 --> 00:03:28,688 ♪ Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash ♪ 32 00:03:28,722 --> 00:03:30,924 ♪ We don't care ♪ 33 00:03:30,957 --> 00:03:33,559 ♪ We aren't caught up in your love affair ♪ 34 00:03:33,632 --> 00:03:35,757 The fall of the Soviet Union 35 00:03:35,799 --> 00:03:40,007 led to infinite faith in the deregulation of markets 36 00:03:40,632 --> 00:03:42,632 accompanied by a new 37 00:03:43,174 --> 00:03:45,466 glorification of private property. 38 00:03:46,257 --> 00:03:47,507 As a consequence, 39 00:03:47,549 --> 00:03:50,799 we're facing challenges of rising inequality 40 00:03:50,841 --> 00:03:54,841 and the rise of nationalism and xenophobic tensions, 41 00:03:54,882 --> 00:03:57,757 like there was in the very unequal world 42 00:03:57,799 --> 00:03:58,799 before World War I. 43 00:03:58,852 --> 00:04:01,520 ♪ We didn't come from money ♪ 44 00:04:01,553 --> 00:04:03,791 ♪ But every song's like gold teeth, Grey Goose ♪ 45 00:04:03,823 --> 00:04:05,624 ♪ Trippin' in the bathroom ♪ 46 00:04:05,659 --> 00:04:08,128 ♪ Bloodstains, ball gowns, trashing the hotel room ♪ 47 00:04:08,162 --> 00:04:10,164 ♪ We don't care... ♪ 48 00:04:10,549 --> 00:04:13,424 And I'm very scared for the 21st century 49 00:04:13,466 --> 00:04:15,049 because what I see in the historical data 50 00:04:15,091 --> 00:04:18,008 suggests we risk returning to a capitalist system 51 00:04:18,049 --> 00:04:21,090 similar to the highly unequal world 52 00:04:21,133 --> 00:04:22,966 of the 18th and 19th centuries. 53 00:04:23,010 --> 00:04:26,246 - ♪ And we'll never be royals ♪ - ♪ Royals ♪ 54 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:28,983 ♪ It don't run in our blood ♪ 55 00:04:29,016 --> 00:04:31,818 ♪ That kind of lux just ain't for us ♪ 56 00:04:31,852 --> 00:04:33,988 ♪ We crave a different kind of buzz ♪ 57 00:04:34,020 --> 00:04:36,691 - ♪ Let me be your ruler ♪ - ♪ Ruler ♪ 58 00:04:37,925 --> 00:04:39,893 ♪ You can call me Queen B ♪ 59 00:04:39,927 --> 00:04:41,094 ♪ And, baby, I'll rule ♪ 60 00:04:41,128 --> 00:04:44,597 ♪ I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule ♪ 61 00:04:44,631 --> 00:04:46,768 ♪ Let me live that fantasy ♪ 62 00:05:13,550 --> 00:05:16,050 In 18th century Europe, 63 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:19,259 capital is concentrated in the hands 64 00:05:19,509 --> 00:05:21,759 of a very small group of people. 65 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:27,967 The aristocracy represents 1% of the population. 66 00:05:31,175 --> 00:05:34,717 The boundaries of money limit social mobility, 67 00:05:39,634 --> 00:05:41,676 and hard work and education 68 00:05:41,717 --> 00:05:43,009 don't allow you to climb very high. 69 00:05:47,509 --> 00:05:49,592 Through the evocative power of literature, 70 00:05:49,634 --> 00:05:51,717 film and popular culture 71 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:56,384 we can see the importance of capital throughout history. 72 00:05:58,843 --> 00:06:00,926 It's a story much darker 73 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,009 than the idyllic vision 74 00:06:04,051 --> 00:06:05,884 of a march towards progress and light. 75 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:14,856 In the 18th century, life for the poor is grim. 76 00:06:14,891 --> 00:06:16,925 If you're lucky, you might be a servant. 77 00:06:16,958 --> 00:06:19,194 Everyone else is a hand-to-mouth laborer, 78 00:06:19,227 --> 00:06:22,065 moving from place to place, following the work, 79 00:06:22,097 --> 00:06:26,701 being treated by the landowners exactly as they please. 80 00:06:26,736 --> 00:06:28,237 And of course there were no benefits, 81 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:31,107 there's no health service, there's no free schooling, 82 00:06:31,140 --> 00:06:33,642 there's absolutely nothing. 83 00:06:35,044 --> 00:06:37,612 So poverty is a death sentence. 84 00:06:39,215 --> 00:06:42,685 And what's very striking is the average life expectancy 85 00:06:42,718 --> 00:06:44,719 in the 18th century is 17. 86 00:06:52,394 --> 00:06:55,664 At the time, what capital really looks like is 87 00:06:55,698 --> 00:06:59,970 money, money-lending and land-owning. 88 00:07:00,002 --> 00:07:04,707 You have a guy that sits in a fort and basically claims taxes 89 00:07:04,740 --> 00:07:07,144 on all the people that work his land. 90 00:07:07,176 --> 00:07:08,978 And we sort of know what that looks like 91 00:07:09,011 --> 00:07:10,645 from all kinds of movies. 92 00:07:10,679 --> 00:07:12,181 Really, with what I get from these peasants, 93 00:07:12,216 --> 00:07:14,818 I can hardly afford to pay my perfume bills. 94 00:07:14,851 --> 00:07:17,652 What about Roulet? Has he paid his rent? 95 00:07:17,688 --> 00:07:19,389 Roulet died last week. 96 00:07:19,422 --> 00:07:22,292 He died with his rent unpaid. 97 00:07:22,325 --> 00:07:24,862 - What did he die of? - Hunger. 98 00:07:24,895 --> 00:07:27,364 Hunger is an indulgence with these peasants. 99 00:07:27,396 --> 00:07:28,798 Oh, I keep forgetting, Gabelle, 100 00:07:28,831 --> 00:07:31,000 you're a humanitarian, aren't you? 101 00:07:31,034 --> 00:07:33,402 You think that one person is as good as another... 102 00:07:33,437 --> 00:07:37,073 a naive notion so contradicted by the facts. 103 00:07:43,045 --> 00:07:45,182 For the rich, inheritance is the obsession. 104 00:07:45,215 --> 00:07:47,217 It's a very strict code. 105 00:07:47,250 --> 00:07:49,286 The eldest son gets the capital. 106 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:50,988 He gets everything... he gets the money, 107 00:07:51,020 --> 00:07:53,022 he gets the house, he gets the land... 108 00:07:53,056 --> 00:07:55,726 and that makes him incredibly powerful, 109 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:59,195 just through an accident of birth. 110 00:07:59,229 --> 00:08:02,065 These land-owning men, these first sons, 111 00:08:02,099 --> 00:08:04,468 they also have a huge amount of political power, 112 00:08:04,501 --> 00:08:08,405 because a lot of them are the MPs, they're elites. 113 00:08:08,438 --> 00:08:11,208 And as a consequence, they are driven by a desire 114 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:14,978 to protect their own income, to protect their own world, 115 00:08:15,012 --> 00:08:17,214 and it simply doesn't occur to them 116 00:08:17,247 --> 00:08:20,184 that poor people deserve some redistribution of wealth. 117 00:08:20,218 --> 00:08:22,986 Taxation, they resist very strongly. 118 00:08:23,021 --> 00:08:25,089 And this is the way that the aristocracy worked, 119 00:08:25,122 --> 00:08:28,358 not just in Britain, but all through Europe, 120 00:08:28,393 --> 00:08:32,396 and the aim is to conserve the aristocratic power. 121 00:08:38,937 --> 00:08:40,838 The examples that Thomas Piketty has 122 00:08:40,871 --> 00:08:43,273 of Jane Austen and Balzac, they're very fitting, 123 00:08:43,308 --> 00:08:45,343 because when you read Jane Austen, 124 00:08:45,375 --> 00:08:47,212 it is all about money, 125 00:08:47,245 --> 00:08:49,846 and this money is not earned through work, 126 00:08:49,881 --> 00:08:52,349 it's not earned through owning businesses, 127 00:08:52,383 --> 00:08:55,086 it's earned through land, it's inherited land. 128 00:09:07,332 --> 00:09:10,001 Mr. Darcy, for example, in Pride and Prejudice, 129 00:09:10,034 --> 00:09:11,769 he has this huge estate. 130 00:09:11,803 --> 00:09:13,338 He doesn't even have to be there. 131 00:09:13,372 --> 00:09:16,774 This land just creates money for him. 132 00:09:16,808 --> 00:09:19,277 How good of you to come. 133 00:09:19,310 --> 00:09:20,812 He looks miserable, poor sod. 134 00:09:20,846 --> 00:09:22,047 Miserable he may be, 135 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,282 but poor he most certainly is not. 136 00:09:24,316 --> 00:09:26,218 - Tell me. - 10,000 a year, 137 00:09:26,251 --> 00:09:28,152 and he owns half of Derbyshire. 138 00:09:28,186 --> 00:09:29,822 The miserable half? 139 00:09:33,424 --> 00:09:34,893 Jane Austen created a fantasy 140 00:09:34,926 --> 00:09:36,462 that you could get your hands on this wealth 141 00:09:36,495 --> 00:09:39,397 if you were just a bit fun and a bit witty. 142 00:09:39,430 --> 00:09:42,368 But the reality is there's no way a Mr. Darcy would marry 143 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,969 girls like Lizzie Bennet, 144 00:09:44,002 --> 00:09:47,940 who actually haven't got a penny to their names. 145 00:09:47,972 --> 00:09:51,543 He would marry an heiress, possibly even a cousin, 146 00:09:51,576 --> 00:09:54,013 and create this, sort of, megalopolis estate. 147 00:09:56,982 --> 00:10:02,087 Money marries money. There's nothing to do with love. 148 00:10:02,121 --> 00:10:04,022 And what we see now, 149 00:10:04,056 --> 00:10:06,058 almost a cycling back to the 18th century. 150 00:10:09,028 --> 00:10:12,998 In Britain, inherited wealth is everything... again. 151 00:10:13,032 --> 00:10:17,469 Nowadays, 1% of the population owns 70% of our land. 152 00:10:17,503 --> 00:10:20,039 ♪ I've been broke all my life ♪ 153 00:10:20,073 --> 00:10:21,307 ♪ Now wonder ♪ 154 00:10:21,340 --> 00:10:24,044 ♪ How does it feel to be rich? ♪ 155 00:10:24,076 --> 00:10:26,111 ♪ How does it feel to be rich? ♪ 156 00:10:26,146 --> 00:10:28,448 ♪ Oh, I done worked all my life ♪ 157 00:10:29,448 --> 00:10:31,083 ♪ Now wonder ♪ 158 00:10:31,117 --> 00:10:33,452 ♪ How does it feel to just live? ♪ 159 00:10:33,485 --> 00:10:35,522 ♪ How does it feel to just live? ♪ 160 00:10:35,554 --> 00:10:39,258 There's always been an elite, which is usually adept at 161 00:10:39,292 --> 00:10:41,560 reproducing its privilege through generations, 162 00:10:41,594 --> 00:10:46,966 monopolizing both economic and social and cultural capital. 163 00:10:46,999 --> 00:10:50,170 The way the elite stays in power and passes on their privilege 164 00:10:50,202 --> 00:10:51,571 to the next generation 165 00:10:51,603 --> 00:10:54,273 is also by shaping the way that we think. 166 00:10:54,306 --> 00:10:56,343 ♪ How does it feel to be rich? ♪ 167 00:10:56,375 --> 00:10:58,945 ♪ How does it feel to be ri-i-ich? ♪ 168 00:10:58,977 --> 00:11:01,214 ♪ How does it feel to just live? ♪ 169 00:11:01,247 --> 00:11:03,248 ♪ How does it feel to just live? ♪ 170 00:11:05,485 --> 00:11:07,387 Traditionally, economists have argued 171 00:11:07,420 --> 00:11:10,423 that inequality is a very powerful driver 172 00:11:10,457 --> 00:11:13,026 of progress and innovation 173 00:11:13,059 --> 00:11:15,995 because the idea is that competition, essentially, 174 00:11:16,029 --> 00:11:18,031 makes people try harder. 175 00:11:19,933 --> 00:11:23,236 The problem is that extreme inequality 176 00:11:23,269 --> 00:11:27,407 increasingly seems to be a source of great economic stress, 177 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,077 social stress and political stress. 178 00:11:31,111 --> 00:11:34,548 Because if you have a situation where an elite 179 00:11:34,581 --> 00:11:37,318 are so rigidly protective of their ranks 180 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:40,053 that nobody can ever rise, there's no social mobility, 181 00:11:40,086 --> 00:11:42,223 you tend to end up with a full-blown revolution. 182 00:11:51,431 --> 00:11:54,515 Life in the 18th century is not static. 183 00:11:54,556 --> 00:11:57,515 We see the development of new political ideas 184 00:11:57,556 --> 00:12:00,265 demanding equal rights 185 00:12:00,931 --> 00:12:04,515 and an end to privileges linked to birth and nobility. 186 00:12:08,349 --> 00:12:10,384 In the French Revolution, the banner is 187 00:12:10,418 --> 00:12:13,320 "Liberté, égalité, fraternité." 188 00:12:13,354 --> 00:12:15,556 It's going to be brotherhood, everyone's going to be free. 189 00:12:18,224 --> 00:12:21,061 But yet within a tiny amount of time, 190 00:12:21,095 --> 00:12:23,264 you have this government of bankers, 191 00:12:23,297 --> 00:12:27,201 and what they do is start to create the elites once more. 192 00:12:28,703 --> 00:12:31,173 ♪ This is the land that fought for liberty ♪ 193 00:12:31,205 --> 00:12:34,075 ♪ Now when we fight, we fight for bread ♪ 194 00:12:34,108 --> 00:12:36,677 ♪ Here is the thing about equality ♪ 195 00:12:36,711 --> 00:12:39,714 ♪ Everyone's equal when they're dead ♪ 196 00:12:39,749 --> 00:12:42,450 ♪ Take your place, take your chance ♪ 197 00:12:42,483 --> 00:12:45,352 ♪ Vive la France Vive la France! ♪ 198 00:12:45,386 --> 00:12:47,522 Vive la France! 199 00:12:48,641 --> 00:12:51,266 It turns out the French Revolution is based, 200 00:12:51,307 --> 00:12:54,141 in part, on hypocrisy. With a vision of equality 201 00:12:54,182 --> 00:12:57,057 that is, at best, a little optimistic or naive 202 00:12:57,099 --> 00:12:59,474 and at worst a little cynical. 203 00:13:01,766 --> 00:13:06,516 We imagine that equality is going to occur naturally 204 00:13:06,557 --> 00:13:09,016 or spontaneously, a bit like a fairy tale. 205 00:13:12,516 --> 00:13:15,433 But the reality is that we also need political institutions, 206 00:13:15,683 --> 00:13:19,974 an education system, health care, a transport system 207 00:13:20,891 --> 00:13:25,558 and a tax system that targets the highest incomes. 208 00:13:26,308 --> 00:13:30,308 But none of this was put in place 209 00:13:30,350 --> 00:13:32,683 after the French Revolution. 210 00:13:41,076 --> 00:13:42,611 What we see in the late 18th 211 00:13:42,644 --> 00:13:45,448 and early 19th centuries is the Industrial Revolution. 212 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,751 It replaces the work of people's hands with machines, 213 00:13:48,784 --> 00:13:51,453 so you bring in machines to make wool, to make cotton, 214 00:13:51,486 --> 00:13:54,189 to make all kinds of commodities. 215 00:13:54,223 --> 00:13:57,426 This makes goods faster, it standardizes them, 216 00:13:57,459 --> 00:14:00,362 and this makes more profit. 217 00:14:00,396 --> 00:14:04,701 Capital's no longer this fixed thing that's your land 218 00:14:04,734 --> 00:14:08,471 or even your ability to lend money. 219 00:14:08,503 --> 00:14:13,676 You finally figure out that you can expand your own factory 220 00:14:13,710 --> 00:14:17,780 by, kind of, selling stuff, keeping the profits, 221 00:14:17,814 --> 00:14:21,851 then reinvesting those profits in expanding your factory. 222 00:14:21,885 --> 00:14:25,153 And that's kind of what capitalism in its modern form 223 00:14:25,187 --> 00:14:28,257 really lets us do... is that capital becomes this thing 224 00:14:28,291 --> 00:14:31,260 that can, kind of, perpetually expand. 225 00:14:35,331 --> 00:14:38,802 But the gap between wages and productivity is substantial, 226 00:14:38,835 --> 00:14:41,772 and you have these kind of feudal legacies of labor 227 00:14:41,805 --> 00:14:45,275 persisting very, very late into the game. 228 00:14:45,308 --> 00:14:47,610 British master and servant law meant that it was a crime 229 00:14:47,643 --> 00:14:51,080 for you to quit your employer without permission. 230 00:14:53,182 --> 00:14:55,384 And, you know, this is getting actively used 231 00:14:55,419 --> 00:14:58,855 in the mid-19th century, during, like, the heyday of capitalism 232 00:14:58,889 --> 00:15:01,793 in England... the most advanced country in the world... 233 00:15:01,826 --> 00:15:03,895 and they're throwing workers in jail, 234 00:15:03,927 --> 00:15:05,897 and they're being beaten 235 00:15:05,929 --> 00:15:08,832 because it's a crime to go on strike. 236 00:15:36,727 --> 00:15:40,664 This whole idea developed around escaping the Old World 237 00:15:40,698 --> 00:15:45,335 and setting up a new, more egalitarian society. 238 00:15:45,369 --> 00:15:48,372 When the new world countries were being set up... 239 00:15:48,405 --> 00:15:50,540 so New Zealand, Australia, Canada... 240 00:15:50,575 --> 00:15:54,478 these places were being set up by these refugees, essentially, 241 00:15:54,511 --> 00:15:56,247 fleeing Europe 242 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:59,784 at a time that capitalism was really taking hold. 243 00:16:01,552 --> 00:16:04,488 And that's why a lot of these people wanted to get out 244 00:16:04,522 --> 00:16:09,459 of these countries... they wanted a flatter society. 245 00:16:09,494 --> 00:16:14,265 It was this idea of moving beyond the class system, 246 00:16:14,298 --> 00:16:17,201 but it was done largely in a laissez-faire way. 247 00:16:17,234 --> 00:16:21,339 It wasn't a political movement, by and large. 248 00:16:21,372 --> 00:16:24,408 And very quickly it was the wealthy that started dominating 249 00:16:24,442 --> 00:16:26,377 right from the start. 250 00:16:27,946 --> 00:16:30,681 If you're a white man in sort of, like, 1800-ish, 251 00:16:30,716 --> 00:16:32,450 Australia and the US... 252 00:16:32,483 --> 00:16:35,988 these places are, like, the best places for you to go. 253 00:16:36,021 --> 00:16:39,590 You've got this wide-open frontier; it's filled with land. 254 00:16:39,624 --> 00:16:41,659 But the big constraint on your production 255 00:16:41,694 --> 00:16:44,797 is your ability to mobilize labor. 256 00:16:44,830 --> 00:16:46,899 So if you're a small family farmer, 257 00:16:46,932 --> 00:16:48,967 the only labor you can mobilize on to the frontier 258 00:16:49,002 --> 00:16:51,203 is your kids. 259 00:16:53,337 --> 00:16:56,008 But if you're a slave owner, you can basically go to New Orleans, 260 00:16:56,041 --> 00:16:58,377 you can take out a loan, use that loan 261 00:16:58,409 --> 00:17:01,914 to buy a bunch of slaves in the New Orleans slave market, 262 00:17:01,948 --> 00:17:04,883 then take them out to the Alabama frontier 263 00:17:04,917 --> 00:17:07,318 and start clearing land and growing cotton. 264 00:17:19,766 --> 00:17:22,969 And you're again able to take the profits from that 265 00:17:23,002 --> 00:17:26,371 and expand, buy more slaves, buy more land, 266 00:17:26,404 --> 00:17:29,274 and so you can again now think of the slave economy 267 00:17:29,307 --> 00:17:33,378 as participating in this circuit of accumulation. 268 00:17:37,616 --> 00:17:40,720 But also being a slave owner didn't just mean that you had 269 00:17:40,754 --> 00:17:43,454 access to the labor of your slaves, 270 00:17:43,489 --> 00:17:47,559 it also meant you had increased access to capital, 271 00:17:47,593 --> 00:17:51,363 because you can use your slaves as collateral. 272 00:17:58,105 --> 00:18:01,007 So if you, basically, are looking to lend to somebody 273 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,878 and they can offer an equivalent amount of 274 00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:05,812 slave collateral versus land, 275 00:18:05,845 --> 00:18:07,480 you'd prefer the slave collateral 276 00:18:07,513 --> 00:18:10,616 because it's much easier to move them around 277 00:18:10,650 --> 00:18:13,318 or resell them or something like that. 278 00:18:16,771 --> 00:18:21,771 The 19th century is when the division of labour, 279 00:18:22,271 --> 00:18:26,271 inequality and power are established worldwide - 280 00:18:28,437 --> 00:18:30,937 first with slavery, 281 00:18:30,979 --> 00:18:33,937 and then with incredibly violent colonial domination. 282 00:18:42,396 --> 00:18:47,104 It's very difficult to say how much of European wealth today 283 00:18:47,146 --> 00:18:49,729 comes from their colonial past. 284 00:18:50,813 --> 00:18:53,313 But what is clear is that the crucial advantage 285 00:18:53,354 --> 00:18:56,271 won at the time of the Industrial Revolution 286 00:18:56,313 --> 00:19:00,105 was closely linked with military force. 287 00:19:05,072 --> 00:19:06,673 Attack! 288 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,397 From 1870 to 1914, the United Kingdom and France, 289 00:19:22,730 --> 00:19:25,897 who are the two main colonial empires, 290 00:19:25,938 --> 00:19:28,980 own so much around the rest of the world 291 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,147 and it brings them so much profit, 292 00:19:32,397 --> 00:19:34,230 interest, dividends, rents 293 00:19:34,980 --> 00:19:38,147 that they can afford to keep on investing 294 00:19:38,188 --> 00:19:40,689 and become owners of more of the world. 295 00:19:43,147 --> 00:19:44,689 So the rest of the world works for them. 296 00:19:53,855 --> 00:19:55,689 It's no good speeding up production 297 00:19:55,724 --> 00:19:58,626 if there's no one to buy the stuff. 298 00:19:58,659 --> 00:20:03,164 So fashion fuels the Industrial Revolution. 299 00:20:03,198 --> 00:20:06,835 By the 19th century, the cult of fashion is all-encompassing. 300 00:20:06,868 --> 00:20:09,005 It's come down even to the working classes. 301 00:20:09,037 --> 00:20:13,975 Even working class women are trying to stay in fashion. 302 00:20:14,009 --> 00:20:17,712 The idea that, "You can't wear that. That's from last season," 303 00:20:17,746 --> 00:20:20,950 that will be very strange to a 16th or 17th century person. 304 00:20:20,982 --> 00:20:23,052 They think, "Well, it's still working, 305 00:20:23,084 --> 00:20:27,188 it's still hard-wearing. I'll wear the same outfit." 306 00:20:32,995 --> 00:20:34,830 And the industry that accelerates the fastest 307 00:20:34,863 --> 00:20:37,732 in the 19th century is the industry about Christmas. 308 00:20:45,907 --> 00:20:47,743 In the 18th and 17th century, 309 00:20:47,777 --> 00:20:50,011 Christmas was a very low-key affair. 310 00:20:50,046 --> 00:20:52,949 It was usually about drinking with your friends and relations. 311 00:20:52,982 --> 00:20:55,051 It wasn't really about present-giving; 312 00:20:55,083 --> 00:20:58,721 that was perhaps in New Year. 313 00:20:58,754 --> 00:21:01,223 But by the mid-19th century, we have the Christmas cracker, 314 00:21:01,257 --> 00:21:03,192 the Christmas card, the Christmas tree. 315 00:21:03,225 --> 00:21:05,094 People are bankrupting themselves 316 00:21:05,127 --> 00:21:08,698 to have a yearly Christmas, and it really was seized upon 317 00:21:08,732 --> 00:21:12,667 by the manufacturers as a way to make a huge amount of money. 318 00:21:16,206 --> 00:21:18,140 Just as you were getting all these new technologies 319 00:21:18,174 --> 00:21:21,543 like the railroad and the telegraph and mass production 320 00:21:21,577 --> 00:21:23,645 and the corporation... all of these new innovations, 321 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:24,982 all of this additional production... 322 00:21:25,014 --> 00:21:28,217 and inequality becomes very, very large. 323 00:21:30,186 --> 00:21:32,723 It's actually this period of enormous conflicts, 324 00:21:32,756 --> 00:21:36,625 where you have open wars in the mines in Colorado 325 00:21:36,658 --> 00:21:41,198 between strikers and armed militia hired by capitalists. 326 00:21:45,334 --> 00:21:49,172 And the overwhelming use of the US Federal Army 327 00:21:49,206 --> 00:21:52,541 in this period is strike-breaking. 328 00:22:19,369 --> 00:22:22,807 And similarly, today, we have this whole 329 00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:24,875 transformation of the economy happening, 330 00:22:26,609 --> 00:22:28,912 both with trade and with technology, 331 00:22:28,945 --> 00:22:31,581 that exactly have the sort of same property of 332 00:22:31,614 --> 00:22:33,917 creating lots of monopolies. 333 00:22:38,321 --> 00:22:40,058 And so it's generating, again, 334 00:22:40,090 --> 00:22:42,893 a small class of very, very wealthy people. 335 00:22:42,927 --> 00:22:44,028 - 22... - 43 million. 336 00:22:44,061 --> 00:22:45,362 - 75 million. 337 00:22:45,396 --> 00:22:48,132 $107 million. Sold. 338 00:22:57,108 --> 00:22:59,900 Around 1914, in Paris, 339 00:23:00,442 --> 00:23:05,983 1% of the population owns 70% of all assets. 340 00:23:08,025 --> 00:23:11,900 And in contrast, two-thirds of the population 341 00:23:11,942 --> 00:23:14,025 die without any assets. 342 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:19,192 You have this rise in nationalism and competition 343 00:23:19,234 --> 00:23:20,734 between European countries, 344 00:23:20,775 --> 00:23:23,484 partly due to very strong social tensions 345 00:23:23,525 --> 00:23:25,900 linked to the stagnant standard of living 346 00:23:25,942 --> 00:23:29,734 and very high levels of inequality. 347 00:23:33,650 --> 00:23:37,067 And competition between countries, nationalism, 348 00:23:37,109 --> 00:23:39,859 is often used by elites 349 00:23:40,317 --> 00:23:43,484 to make people forget class conflict 350 00:23:43,526 --> 00:23:46,776 and instead focus on national identity. 351 00:23:56,776 --> 00:24:00,609 And all this contributes to the arrival of 352 00:24:00,651 --> 00:24:05,234 the First World War in the summer of 1914. 353 00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:07,946 In Berlin, the Germans know the hour 354 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:10,215 of glory is at hand. 355 00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:14,453 There's like a cultural militarism that's happening 356 00:24:14,485 --> 00:24:17,322 on the Continent, and they're competing with each other 357 00:24:17,356 --> 00:24:20,826 over both imperial territory and trade routes. 358 00:24:20,859 --> 00:24:23,295 The warlord is ceaseless, indefatigable, 359 00:24:23,328 --> 00:24:26,398 as he makes the rounds of his armies. 360 00:24:26,431 --> 00:24:28,835 The British Empire was so powerful; 361 00:24:28,867 --> 00:24:30,402 they had a quarter of the world's population. 362 00:24:30,436 --> 00:24:32,704 The other countries wanted a piece of the cake. 363 00:24:32,738 --> 00:24:36,742 And Germany, in particular, wanted a piece of the cake. 364 00:24:39,044 --> 00:24:41,747 A lot of these new capitalists 365 00:24:41,781 --> 00:24:44,850 are still, kind of, basically feudal in their outlook. 366 00:24:44,884 --> 00:24:48,020 So particularly in Germany, you have these Junkers 367 00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:49,888 that are these big industrialists, 368 00:24:49,922 --> 00:24:51,858 but they also think there's nothing better for society 369 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:53,059 than a good fight. 370 00:25:01,801 --> 00:25:04,236 Britain and the Allied powers take on Germany 371 00:25:04,270 --> 00:25:07,473 in what they think is going to be a short, sharp shock 372 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:09,141 over in a few months' time. 373 00:25:22,121 --> 00:25:26,426 Instead, it goes on for years and decimates both populations. 374 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:45,745 World War I is, at its base, a fight over capital. 375 00:25:47,547 --> 00:25:51,485 And we see this massive post-war economic crash. 376 00:25:53,887 --> 00:25:56,422 So, you have this new idea after World War I, 377 00:25:56,457 --> 00:25:59,392 basically born out of the fact that the government is bankrupt, 378 00:25:59,426 --> 00:26:03,030 that tax is not bad, that it actually could be good. 379 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:04,531 And the only way you're going to get money 380 00:26:04,564 --> 00:26:06,966 is by taxing the aristocracy. 381 00:26:09,336 --> 00:26:11,905 There is nothing in the working class and the middle class 382 00:26:11,938 --> 00:26:13,907 left to tax. 383 00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:17,444 So you see the beginning of the drop in aristocratic power. 384 00:26:19,179 --> 00:26:22,483 And also what you see in the '20s is the growth of the power 385 00:26:22,516 --> 00:26:25,085 of women and also of the working classes... 386 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,354 both of them, essentially, are saying to the government, 387 00:26:27,387 --> 00:26:30,057 "Look, we worked really hard for you in this war. 388 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:33,027 We sacrificed. You need to give us something back." 389 00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:36,363 So suddenly the whole principle that the working classes 390 00:26:36,397 --> 00:26:40,100 and women must sit there and put up with the way that society is, 391 00:26:40,135 --> 00:26:42,403 is completely overturned in the '20s. 392 00:26:45,139 --> 00:26:47,008 All of the crowds of the Empire City, 393 00:26:47,041 --> 00:26:49,243 the wonder city, the windy city, the passion city, 394 00:26:49,276 --> 00:26:50,844 the people, yes. 395 00:26:54,114 --> 00:26:58,118 ♪ Gone are my blues, and gone are my tears ♪ 396 00:26:58,153 --> 00:27:02,189 ♪ I've got good news to shout in your ears ♪ 397 00:27:02,222 --> 00:27:05,893 ♪ The long-lost dollar has come back to the fold ♪ 398 00:27:05,927 --> 00:27:09,130 ♪ With silver, you can turn your dreams to gold! ♪ 399 00:27:09,163 --> 00:27:11,165 ♪ Oh, we're in the money ♪ 400 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,002 ♪ We're in the money ♪ 401 00:27:14,035 --> 00:27:18,873 ♪ Let's lend it, spend it, send it rolling around ♪ 402 00:27:18,907 --> 00:27:20,441 All of the crowd get the big money... 403 00:27:20,475 --> 00:27:23,078 2 million, 5 million... make a pile and raise a pile. 404 00:27:23,111 --> 00:27:25,513 The '20s was maybe irrational exuberance. 405 00:27:25,547 --> 00:27:27,614 Watch us grow! What am I bid? Going up! 406 00:27:27,649 --> 00:27:29,484 There was a boom in stock prices, 407 00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:33,088 but people kept bidding into the stock market, 408 00:27:33,121 --> 00:27:36,991 because people always think there's magic in Wall Street. 409 00:27:37,025 --> 00:27:39,962 You know, we have a mythology in this country, in particular, 410 00:27:39,994 --> 00:27:42,430 that what's good for Wall Street is good for Main Street, 411 00:27:42,464 --> 00:27:44,933 but that's really never been true. 412 00:27:44,966 --> 00:27:48,002 ♪ We're in the money, I'll say we're in the money ♪ 413 00:27:48,037 --> 00:27:51,940 ♪ We've got a lot of what it takes to get along ♪ 414 00:27:51,973 --> 00:27:55,377 A lot of banks were selling products that they knew 415 00:27:55,411 --> 00:27:58,246 were absolutely no good. 416 00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:03,017 There were dodgy bankers doing dodgy deals knowingly. 417 00:28:03,051 --> 00:28:05,087 There weren't a lot of regulations in place. 418 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,157 It was a real free-for-all of capital. 419 00:28:09,726 --> 00:28:11,993 The bubble of the 1920s 420 00:28:12,027 --> 00:28:14,596 was characteristic of many other bubbles... 421 00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:16,965 a kind of euphoria that happens. 422 00:28:16,999 --> 00:28:19,567 Stocks go up, you can borrow against that stock. 423 00:28:19,602 --> 00:28:21,404 You use that money to buy more stock, 424 00:28:21,437 --> 00:28:26,208 the price goes up even more, and everybody's feeling giddy. 425 00:28:33,014 --> 00:28:34,984 At the same time, you've got tremendous 426 00:28:35,017 --> 00:28:37,620 dislocation going on in the job market... 427 00:28:37,653 --> 00:28:39,288 a lot of people getting very rich, 428 00:28:39,321 --> 00:28:41,157 but a lot of workers at the bottom, 429 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:43,325 not enough in the middle. 430 00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:48,397 Credit was then being offered to kind of paper over that divide. 431 00:28:53,637 --> 00:28:57,473 That credit cycle fed this bubble, 432 00:28:57,506 --> 00:29:00,443 and like every other bubble, 433 00:29:00,476 --> 00:29:01,611 it broke. 434 00:29:03,579 --> 00:29:05,115 This time around, 435 00:29:05,147 --> 00:29:08,485 a number of bankers actually went to jail, 436 00:29:08,517 --> 00:29:11,154 and there really were some regulatory changes, you know, 437 00:29:11,188 --> 00:29:13,690 like, in particular the Glass-Steagall Depression-era 438 00:29:13,723 --> 00:29:15,725 legislation that actually fixed the banking system 439 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,030 and made it safer... until it was overturned in 1989. 440 00:29:30,808 --> 00:29:34,177 After the financial crash, countries all around the world 441 00:29:34,211 --> 00:29:37,013 also ended up getting in a trade war. 442 00:29:37,047 --> 00:29:38,448 There were tariffs that were imposed, 443 00:29:38,482 --> 00:29:40,416 and that created a snowball cycle, 444 00:29:40,450 --> 00:29:43,019 which led to more pain globally, 445 00:29:44,488 --> 00:29:48,425 and that helped to provoke the Great Depression. 446 00:29:51,823 --> 00:29:54,156 If you read John Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath, 447 00:29:54,198 --> 00:29:57,906 you realise the extent of the shock caused by 448 00:29:57,948 --> 00:30:00,656 the complete collapse of economic activity. 449 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,741 They told me to tell you to get off, 450 00:30:03,774 --> 00:30:05,342 and that's what I'm telling ya. 451 00:30:05,375 --> 00:30:07,311 You mean get off of my own land? 452 00:30:07,344 --> 00:30:09,413 Don't go to blaming me, it ain't my fault. 453 00:30:09,446 --> 00:30:10,615 Whose fault is it? 454 00:30:10,647 --> 00:30:12,083 You know who owns the land... 455 00:30:12,116 --> 00:30:14,185 the Shawnee Land and Cattle Company. 456 00:30:14,217 --> 00:30:16,119 And who's the Shawnee Land and Cattle Company? 457 00:30:16,152 --> 00:30:18,089 It ain't nobody! It's a company. 458 00:30:18,121 --> 00:30:19,724 They got a president, ain't they? 459 00:30:19,758 --> 00:30:22,292 They got somebody knows what a shotgun's for, ain't they?! 460 00:30:22,325 --> 00:30:23,361 What's the use of pickin' on him? 461 00:30:23,393 --> 00:30:25,195 He ain't nothin' but the manager. 462 00:30:25,229 --> 00:30:27,131 And he's half crazy hisself tryin' to keep up 463 00:30:27,164 --> 00:30:28,466 with his orders from the East. 464 00:30:28,498 --> 00:30:31,702 - Then who do we shoot? - Brother, I don't know. 465 00:30:31,737 --> 00:30:33,504 If I did, I'd tell ya. 466 00:30:33,538 --> 00:30:35,540 I just don't know who's to blame. 467 00:30:35,573 --> 00:30:37,809 I'm right here to tell you, mister, there ain't nobody 468 00:30:37,842 --> 00:30:39,811 gonna push me off my land! 469 00:30:39,844 --> 00:30:43,414 My grandpa took up this land 70 years ago. 470 00:30:43,447 --> 00:30:46,616 My pa was born here. We was all born on it! 471 00:30:46,651 --> 00:30:49,153 And some of us was killed on it! 472 00:31:07,616 --> 00:31:09,866 Banks fail one after another, 473 00:31:09,907 --> 00:31:12,616 which results in everyone losing their savings. 474 00:31:12,657 --> 00:31:16,241 And this decreases in demand in other areas, 475 00:31:16,283 --> 00:31:18,408 causing a cascading phenomena of bankruptcy and unemployment. 476 00:31:51,116 --> 00:31:54,616 The crisis of the 1930s creates such a strong trauma 477 00:31:54,658 --> 00:31:57,825 that leads to the public and politicians 478 00:31:58,242 --> 00:32:01,450 holding capitalism accountable. 479 00:32:33,726 --> 00:32:37,563 The pain in the United States had become so great, 480 00:32:37,596 --> 00:32:43,202 so grave... absolute poverty... and as a consequence of that, 481 00:32:43,236 --> 00:32:45,839 the willingness to make political solutions 482 00:32:45,872 --> 00:32:48,574 that were severe. 483 00:32:48,608 --> 00:32:53,279 This nation is asking for action and action now. 484 00:32:54,882 --> 00:32:58,518 Price-fixing, massive change in labor rates... 485 00:32:58,551 --> 00:33:01,320 all of these things under FDR 486 00:33:01,354 --> 00:33:04,557 was something that Americans hadn't seen before, 487 00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:07,627 and absolutely that led to massive infrastructure build 488 00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:10,530 and it led to extraordinary redistribution. 489 00:33:11,899 --> 00:33:14,001 The existence of a communist alternative 490 00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:18,671 scared the capitalist world into thinking that if it didn't 491 00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:21,909 at least address some of the basic inequality issues, 492 00:33:21,943 --> 00:33:24,845 that they would lose the battle for ideas. 493 00:33:30,919 --> 00:33:33,619 In the New Deal itself, Roosevelt actually borrowed 494 00:33:33,653 --> 00:33:37,024 some ideas... the heavy state involvement in the economy; 495 00:33:37,058 --> 00:33:39,259 heavy regulation. 496 00:33:41,462 --> 00:33:44,966 There was a clear recognition that unless the state tried to 497 00:33:44,998 --> 00:33:46,800 do something about jobs 498 00:33:46,835 --> 00:33:50,971 and do enough redistribution to keep people from starving, 499 00:33:51,005 --> 00:33:54,608 that you wouldn't have basic social stability. 500 00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:20,835 The Wall Street crash creates poverty in America, 501 00:34:20,870 --> 00:34:22,336 it creates poverty in Britain, 502 00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:24,304 but it has a massive effect on Germany, 503 00:34:24,339 --> 00:34:28,375 because Germany is already poor. After World War I, 504 00:34:28,408 --> 00:34:30,879 they were given these very punitive reparations... 505 00:34:30,913 --> 00:34:33,848 they had to give huge amounts of money to the other countries. 506 00:34:33,882 --> 00:34:36,450 And what you have is this horrific inflation 507 00:34:36,484 --> 00:34:37,752 in the Weimar Republic... 508 00:34:37,787 --> 00:34:39,721 Germany as it was known in the 1920s... 509 00:34:39,754 --> 00:34:41,522 in which, basically, at one point, 510 00:34:41,555 --> 00:34:46,027 a whole barrel of banknotes cannot buy you a loaf of bread. 511 00:34:49,364 --> 00:34:52,433 We can absolutely link, as tight as that, the rise of fascism 512 00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:55,805 in Europe in the 1930s and extreme poverty. 513 00:35:12,955 --> 00:35:14,924 And you can see how seductive it is 514 00:35:14,957 --> 00:35:17,559 when someone like Adolf Hitler comes up and says, 515 00:35:17,592 --> 00:35:20,963 "I'll make Germany great again. We'll be powerful again." 516 00:35:20,996 --> 00:35:22,998 And really what he's saying is, 517 00:35:23,032 --> 00:35:26,035 "The reason why we're so poor in Germany is because of Britain, 518 00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:30,740 is because of America, is because of the rest of Europe." 519 00:35:42,952 --> 00:35:46,121 These downtrodden people were so open, so vulnerable 520 00:35:46,155 --> 00:35:49,059 to the rise of fascism and the call of racism, 521 00:35:49,092 --> 00:35:50,625 the call of exclusionism 522 00:35:50,659 --> 00:35:53,730 and the call of invading other countries. 523 00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:08,037 We want to see no more class divisions. 524 00:36:09,579 --> 00:36:12,079 We want to be one people. 525 00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:17,621 And you, my youth, are to be this people. 526 00:36:21,523 --> 00:36:26,062 One American airplane factory... one of many. 527 00:36:26,097 --> 00:36:28,999 One bomber... thousands on the way... 528 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,936 an angel of death. 529 00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:35,572 What really gets rid of the Depression is transforming 530 00:36:35,604 --> 00:36:37,540 the economy into World War II. 531 00:36:37,573 --> 00:36:39,976 And the scale of this is just something that humanity 532 00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:41,946 had never seen before. 533 00:36:44,815 --> 00:36:46,918 The governments of all the societies involved 534 00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:49,120 just kind of take over production, 535 00:36:49,152 --> 00:36:50,888 and this is an industrial war, 536 00:36:50,922 --> 00:36:54,124 so production is, kind of, the terms under which, 537 00:36:54,158 --> 00:36:57,460 in the long run, this will be won or lost. 538 00:37:03,968 --> 00:37:06,837 The labor movement got a lot of political power. 539 00:37:06,871 --> 00:37:08,705 Like, if you're producing for the war, 540 00:37:08,739 --> 00:37:13,576 you have to automatically recognize a union. 541 00:37:13,610 --> 00:37:15,880 And then just also raising the money to pay for that 542 00:37:15,913 --> 00:37:18,215 just involved raising taxes. 543 00:37:19,683 --> 00:37:22,720 This period was the last gasp of feudalism, 544 00:37:22,753 --> 00:37:25,790 and it took this to finally purge the influence 545 00:37:25,823 --> 00:37:29,160 of the aristocracy in advanced countries. 546 00:39:00,123 --> 00:39:04,040 The wars themselves are used to destroy capital. 547 00:39:05,873 --> 00:39:10,498 Firstly, there are bombings that destroy entire cities. 548 00:39:10,540 --> 00:39:11,498 But at the same time, 549 00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:15,373 this only accounts for a third of the total loss of capital. 550 00:39:17,207 --> 00:39:20,207 So where do the other two-thirds come from? 551 00:39:20,248 --> 00:39:24,290 A third is from inflation that destroys the public debt, 552 00:39:24,332 --> 00:39:28,665 which was lent by the citizens to finance the war. 553 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:32,915 And then there is a third from new rules, 554 00:39:33,207 --> 00:39:34,832 like rent controls, 555 00:39:34,874 --> 00:39:36,790 nationalisations and financial regulations. 556 00:39:38,582 --> 00:39:42,665 But this collapse of capital is not necessarily a bad thing 557 00:39:42,707 --> 00:39:45,457 because the power relationships within society are transformed. 558 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,209 ♪ Oh, give me land, lots of land ♪ 559 00:39:56,243 --> 00:39:58,978 ♪ Under starry skies above ♪ 560 00:39:59,011 --> 00:40:02,181 ♪ Don't fence me in ♪ 561 00:40:02,216 --> 00:40:05,384 ♪ Let me ride through the wide open country... ♪ 562 00:40:05,666 --> 00:40:08,707 Everyone is equal in the face of death. 563 00:40:09,832 --> 00:40:14,249 Wars, with their death and despair, 564 00:40:14,499 --> 00:40:19,374 are also moments when humanity is found in us all. 565 00:40:19,867 --> 00:40:24,403 ♪ Let me be my myself in the evening breeze ♪ 566 00:40:24,438 --> 00:40:28,375 ♪ Listen to the murmur of the cottonwood trees... ♪ 567 00:40:29,208 --> 00:40:33,124 This new political context will ultimately lead 568 00:40:33,541 --> 00:40:37,624 to a realisation of the spirit of the Enlightenment 569 00:40:38,625 --> 00:40:40,875 and of equality proclaimed in the 18th century. 570 00:40:41,455 --> 00:40:50,931 ♪ Don't fence me in ♪ 571 00:40:54,301 --> 00:40:57,037 The social landscape is completely different 572 00:40:57,071 --> 00:40:58,839 in the aftermath of World War II. 573 00:40:58,873 --> 00:41:02,276 You see the biggest shift in attitudes that you ever see. 574 00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:04,811 Bit different from what it used to be, 575 00:41:04,846 --> 00:41:06,213 I can tell ya. 576 00:41:08,816 --> 00:41:11,485 There will be sickness and unemployment benefits, 577 00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:14,189 retirement pensions, industrial injuries benefits, 578 00:41:14,222 --> 00:41:17,025 guardians allowances, widows' benefits, maternity grants. 579 00:41:17,057 --> 00:41:19,460 It's a move towards creating a benefit system. 580 00:41:19,494 --> 00:41:22,063 We have the idea of sickness pay, holiday pay. 581 00:41:22,096 --> 00:41:24,231 In Britain they created the National Health Service... 582 00:41:24,265 --> 00:41:27,001 free service from cradle to grave. 583 00:41:34,876 --> 00:41:37,312 It's a move towards nationalization of industry, 584 00:41:37,345 --> 00:41:39,380 it's a move towards taxation of inheritance, 585 00:41:39,414 --> 00:41:41,349 taxation of property and wealth. 586 00:41:41,382 --> 00:41:44,185 I'm telling you, it works out fine. 587 00:41:44,219 --> 00:41:46,120 Television, with its promise of endless hours 588 00:41:46,154 --> 00:41:50,326 of enjoyment, entertainment, was part of the peacetime green. 589 00:41:50,358 --> 00:41:53,995 Television... an unparalleled blending of private incentive 590 00:41:54,028 --> 00:41:56,498 and public service. 591 00:41:56,531 --> 00:41:58,000 In America in the '50s, 592 00:41:58,032 --> 00:41:59,802 you see capital restrained also. 593 00:41:59,834 --> 00:42:02,036 You have rent controls on apartments, 594 00:42:02,071 --> 00:42:03,905 you have limits on landowners. 595 00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:06,541 Capital can't just roam free, it can't just increase itself. 596 00:42:06,575 --> 00:42:09,945 Capital must be harnessed like some wild horse. 597 00:42:09,978 --> 00:42:12,413 This is the land of the thoroughbred. 598 00:42:12,448 --> 00:42:15,351 There is a very clear vision that capital needs to be 599 00:42:15,383 --> 00:42:18,086 helping the people, that actually the whole principle 600 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,522 in which the rich do whatever they want with their capital 601 00:42:20,555 --> 00:42:22,191 and that's good for the nation, 602 00:42:22,224 --> 00:42:24,793 well, that's being challenged across the world. 603 00:42:24,827 --> 00:42:27,296 ♪ I wish I had a castle in the sky ♪ 604 00:42:29,064 --> 00:42:32,935 ♪ A way up high where bluebirds like to fly ♪ 605 00:42:32,968 --> 00:42:36,404 The new vision is that the '50s is going to be the age in which 606 00:42:36,438 --> 00:42:38,007 everyone can have wealth. 607 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,042 ♪ ...with a hundred rooms or more... ♪ 608 00:42:40,075 --> 00:42:41,510 ...some day... 609 00:42:41,543 --> 00:42:44,580 ♪ With stars for windows, clouds for rugs ♪ 610 00:42:44,613 --> 00:42:47,016 ♪ A rainbow for a door ♪ 611 00:42:47,049 --> 00:42:50,019 People who are born just after World War II 612 00:42:50,053 --> 00:42:53,455 had a life that no child before them could ever imagine. 613 00:42:53,489 --> 00:42:56,126 I just wish I had a decent kitchen. 614 00:43:00,162 --> 00:43:01,463 For the first time, 615 00:43:01,498 --> 00:43:04,433 hard work and study can get you to the top. 616 00:43:08,171 --> 00:43:10,073 - Hello, Mrs. Thatcher. - Nice to see you. 617 00:43:10,105 --> 00:43:13,076 Have a seat. 618 00:43:15,010 --> 00:43:18,148 My father left school at 12 or 13, 619 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:19,982 and didn't have some of the chances 620 00:43:20,016 --> 00:43:22,584 that you and I have to go on to college. 621 00:43:22,619 --> 00:43:25,121 And I think you'll find when you're a parent, 622 00:43:25,154 --> 00:43:28,491 what you're always trying to do is to give your children 623 00:43:28,525 --> 00:43:31,060 the sort of chances you didn't have. 624 00:43:31,094 --> 00:43:33,863 Would you like to see a woman prime minister? 625 00:43:33,897 --> 00:43:36,332 I think it depends upon who the person is. 626 00:43:36,366 --> 00:43:39,336 I don't think that there will be a woman prime minister 627 00:43:39,369 --> 00:43:41,103 in my lifetime. 628 00:43:42,604 --> 00:43:44,374 What you see in Margaret Thatcher's life 629 00:43:44,407 --> 00:43:47,043 is incredible social mobility. 630 00:43:47,077 --> 00:43:49,145 An ordinary shopkeeper's daughter from the North, 631 00:43:49,178 --> 00:43:51,648 she went to grammar school, she went to Oxford, 632 00:43:51,681 --> 00:43:53,883 and became the first female prime minister, 633 00:43:53,917 --> 00:43:55,118 and, of course, wealthy. 634 00:43:55,151 --> 00:43:57,887 And that is simply through this new society 635 00:43:57,921 --> 00:44:01,625 in which social mobility was actually possible. 636 00:44:01,658 --> 00:44:04,994 And what you have is this real surge of the middle classes 637 00:44:05,029 --> 00:44:07,498 and the lower middle classes into positions of power. 638 00:44:15,003 --> 00:44:17,503 If you look at the development of inequality 639 00:44:17,545 --> 00:44:21,253 through the 20th century, the most striking transformation 640 00:44:21,295 --> 00:44:26,420 is the growth of an extremely strong middle class. 641 00:44:27,836 --> 00:44:31,378 Until 1914, the middle class doesn't exist. 642 00:44:32,128 --> 00:44:35,378 Or more accurately, they're almost as poor as the poorest. 643 00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:41,545 The decades after the war - 644 00:44:41,587 --> 00:44:44,295 30 years that saw glorious economic growth - 645 00:44:44,337 --> 00:44:48,628 are marked by a steep increase in purchasing power, 646 00:44:49,087 --> 00:44:52,503 especially for lower and middle-class workers 647 00:44:52,545 --> 00:44:57,503 who can buy consumer goods, improve their standard of living 648 00:44:57,545 --> 00:45:01,629 and save money to buy a house and acquire capital. 649 00:45:02,154 --> 00:45:03,621 And we'll have the kitchen right here, 650 00:45:03,655 --> 00:45:06,123 so we can see the children playing in the yard. 651 00:45:06,157 --> 00:45:08,226 Children?! How many you planning on? 652 00:45:08,259 --> 00:45:10,261 Not more than six, I hope. 653 00:45:14,462 --> 00:45:19,087 They're a group who are neither very rich nor completely poor, 654 00:45:19,129 --> 00:45:22,004 but still have a substantial share of national capital. 655 00:45:35,171 --> 00:45:36,629 But in recent decades, 656 00:45:36,671 --> 00:45:40,212 the share of wealth owned by the middle class 657 00:45:40,254 --> 00:45:43,379 has started to decline sharply in the US 658 00:45:43,671 --> 00:45:45,338 and a little less sharply in Europe. 659 00:45:49,546 --> 00:45:52,588 Clearly we've taken a very different direction, 660 00:45:52,629 --> 00:45:56,546 which can be quite disturbing if we look into the 21st century. 661 00:45:58,963 --> 00:46:01,671 One of the greatest challenges for the future 662 00:46:01,713 --> 00:46:04,755 is whether the middle class will continue to shrink, 663 00:46:04,796 --> 00:46:07,463 with the risk of returning to an impoverished middle class 664 00:46:07,505 --> 00:46:10,130 like we had a century ago. 665 00:46:23,736 --> 00:46:26,305 The decades immediately after World War II 666 00:46:26,338 --> 00:46:28,340 were quite remarkable. 667 00:46:29,608 --> 00:46:32,310 There was a high degree of social consensus 668 00:46:32,345 --> 00:46:36,114 that really sprang out of the whole war effort. 669 00:46:37,650 --> 00:46:40,721 It was so... You had a solidarity, 670 00:46:40,754 --> 00:46:44,725 but it was on the basis of a pretty stratified society. 671 00:46:46,392 --> 00:46:48,394 There were other forms of inequality that existed 672 00:46:48,427 --> 00:46:50,196 in that period. 673 00:46:50,229 --> 00:46:52,531 But that began to change after the civil rights movement 674 00:46:52,565 --> 00:46:56,168 in the 1960s and then all of the other social movements 675 00:46:56,202 --> 00:46:58,104 that occurred thereafter. 676 00:46:58,137 --> 00:47:00,139 - ♪ You better think ♪ - ♪ Think! ♪ 677 00:47:00,172 --> 00:47:02,074 ♪ Think about what you're trying to do to me ♪ 678 00:47:02,107 --> 00:47:05,311 The negro still is not free. 679 00:47:05,344 --> 00:47:06,780 ♪ ...let yourself be free ♪ 680 00:47:06,813 --> 00:47:09,248 - ♪ Oh, freedom ♪ - ♪ Freedom! ♪ 681 00:47:09,282 --> 00:47:11,284 - ♪ Some freedom ♪ - ♪ Freedom! ♪ 682 00:47:11,317 --> 00:47:13,219 ♪ Oh, freedom ♪ 683 00:47:13,252 --> 00:47:15,688 ♪ Yeah, freedom! ♪ 684 00:47:15,722 --> 00:47:17,724 I think that, politically, 685 00:47:17,758 --> 00:47:21,160 having a broad middle class is quite important. 686 00:47:21,193 --> 00:47:23,162 It's part of what's called modernization 687 00:47:23,195 --> 00:47:25,232 through this idea that as your income rises, 688 00:47:25,264 --> 00:47:28,568 you develop a middle class that are better educated, 689 00:47:28,602 --> 00:47:32,774 and therefore they will demand a higher level of participation. 690 00:47:32,807 --> 00:47:35,541 - ♪ Oh, freedom ♪ - ♪ Freedom! ♪ 691 00:47:35,576 --> 00:47:37,410 - ♪ Some freedom ♪ - ♪ Freedom! ♪ 692 00:47:37,443 --> 00:47:40,647 ♪ Oh, freedom! Yeah, freedom! ♪ 693 00:47:40,681 --> 00:47:43,282 We have been victims for so long. 694 00:47:43,316 --> 00:47:45,352 - ♪ Freedom ♪ - ♪ Oh, freedom ♪ 695 00:47:45,384 --> 00:47:48,287 - ♪ Freedom ♪ - ♪ Give me some freedom ♪ 696 00:47:48,322 --> 00:47:51,357 ♪ Oh, freedom! ♪ 697 00:47:51,391 --> 00:47:54,560 - ♪ Whoo! To the ball, baby ♪ - ♪ To the ball ♪ 698 00:47:56,162 --> 00:47:59,366 Then that kind of all unravels in the '70s. 699 00:47:59,399 --> 00:48:03,236 This is NBC Nightly News, Wednesday October 17th. 700 00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:05,840 Good evening. The Middle East war produced developments 701 00:48:05,873 --> 00:48:07,775 all over the world today. 702 00:48:07,808 --> 00:48:10,410 The oil-producing countries of the Arab world 703 00:48:10,444 --> 00:48:13,347 decided to use their oil as a political weapon. 704 00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:15,183 There was an announcement in Kuwait 705 00:48:15,215 --> 00:48:17,417 that prices for Arab oil were going up... 706 00:48:17,451 --> 00:48:20,487 a huge increase voted in an overnight meeting 707 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,191 until Israeli forces leave occupied Arab land. 708 00:48:28,863 --> 00:48:32,466 This oil shock hits all of the advanced economies, 709 00:48:32,499 --> 00:48:35,203 and oil was an input into everything. 710 00:48:36,738 --> 00:48:38,907 It was announced today that gasless Sundays 711 00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:41,909 will go into effect as of next month. 712 00:48:41,943 --> 00:48:43,644 The price of foreign oil 713 00:48:43,678 --> 00:48:46,313 had jumped from $3 to $12 a barrel. 714 00:48:47,915 --> 00:48:51,719 Quadrupling the price of oil translated into this period 715 00:48:51,754 --> 00:48:54,422 where, like, prices started to increase 716 00:48:54,455 --> 00:48:57,558 and wages weren't keeping pace, 717 00:48:57,592 --> 00:48:59,895 but then unions and workers started demanding 718 00:48:59,928 --> 00:49:03,331 even higher wages to keep pace with prices, 719 00:49:03,364 --> 00:49:05,667 and then what firms would do is then increase prices 720 00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:08,904 even further to pass on the effects of wages, 721 00:49:08,937 --> 00:49:12,707 and so you got what's called a wage-price spiral. 722 00:49:12,741 --> 00:49:17,211 And so you had this period of high inflation and low growth, 723 00:49:17,245 --> 00:49:20,448 so that's why it got called stagflation. 724 00:49:28,791 --> 00:49:30,893 Globalization is starting to happen. 725 00:49:30,926 --> 00:49:34,362 The emerging markets are coming online in the world. 726 00:49:34,395 --> 00:49:35,798 Europe is back on its feet, 727 00:49:35,832 --> 00:49:37,801 Germany is becoming a producer again, 728 00:49:37,834 --> 00:49:40,535 a number of European nations are becoming more competitive. 729 00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:46,475 The global picture is changing. 730 00:49:46,508 --> 00:49:48,677 American capital suddenly doesn't have 731 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:50,311 the world to itself anymore. 732 00:49:50,344 --> 00:49:52,448 ♪ Tumble outta bed and I stumble to the kitchen ♪ 733 00:49:52,481 --> 00:49:54,784 ♪ Pour myself a cup of ambition... ♪ 734 00:49:54,817 --> 00:49:57,285 But another thing that's happening in the 1970s 735 00:49:57,319 --> 00:50:00,789 is you see a very kind of siloed, financialized 736 00:50:00,824 --> 00:50:03,893 way of thinking about how to run a corporate balance sheet... 737 00:50:03,927 --> 00:50:06,328 cut costs, marshal your capital, 738 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,765 treat labor as a cost, not an asset. 739 00:50:08,798 --> 00:50:10,967 ♪ Working 9 to 5 ♪ 740 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,569 ♪ What a way to make a living ♪ 741 00:50:13,602 --> 00:50:15,671 ♪ Barely gettin' by ♪ 742 00:50:15,704 --> 00:50:17,974 ♪ It's all takin' and no givin' ♪ 743 00:50:18,007 --> 00:50:19,976 ♪ They just use your mind ♪ 744 00:50:20,009 --> 00:50:22,478 ♪ And you never get the credit ♪ 745 00:50:22,511 --> 00:50:26,548 ♪ It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it ♪ 746 00:50:26,583 --> 00:50:28,617 Companies are not investing in their workers, 747 00:50:28,650 --> 00:50:29,986 they're not raising wages, 748 00:50:30,019 --> 00:50:32,387 so you start to really get that big 'X' 749 00:50:32,421 --> 00:50:36,325 where Wall Street's going here, Main Street's going down here. 750 00:50:36,359 --> 00:50:38,627 ♪ It's a rich man's game ♪ 751 00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:40,630 ♪ No matter what they call it ♪ 752 00:50:40,662 --> 00:50:45,667 ♪ And you spend your life puttin' money in his wallet ♪ 753 00:50:45,702 --> 00:50:47,004 ♪ 9 to 5... ♪ 754 00:50:50,372 --> 00:50:52,709 Germany and Japan took a different model... 755 00:50:52,742 --> 00:50:55,310 a model in which workers sat on the boards of companies, 756 00:50:55,344 --> 00:50:57,513 had more of a say. 757 00:50:57,547 --> 00:50:59,750 This actually gave them a big advantage. 758 00:50:59,784 --> 00:51:01,484 They were able to use that expertise 759 00:51:01,517 --> 00:51:02,853 and increase their efficiency, 760 00:51:02,886 --> 00:51:05,655 and eventually gain market share from US companies. 761 00:51:07,423 --> 00:51:10,860 When it started, America was unprepared. 762 00:51:10,895 --> 00:51:12,862 From across the ocean, they came... 763 00:51:12,897 --> 00:51:17,500 little cars determined to change the buying habits of a nation. 764 00:51:17,534 --> 00:51:20,370 It's a great-looking car. What do you call it? 765 00:51:20,403 --> 00:51:22,605 - Isuzu. - Gesundheit. 766 00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:24,607 Road-hugging, heart-pounding, 767 00:51:24,641 --> 00:51:26,709 hood-soaring, deck-sloping... 768 00:51:26,744 --> 00:51:29,013 ♪ We are... ♪ 769 00:51:29,046 --> 00:51:31,916 ♪ Cadillacs drive Subaru ♪ 770 00:51:31,949 --> 00:51:34,085 Reagan for president. 771 00:51:35,618 --> 00:51:37,955 Japanese production of automobiles is almost 772 00:51:37,988 --> 00:51:41,926 twice as great per worker as it is in America. 773 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,461 We were once the greatest producer of automobiles, 774 00:51:44,494 --> 00:51:48,065 producing more than all the rest of the world combined. 775 00:51:48,098 --> 00:51:49,867 That is no longer true. 776 00:51:50,051 --> 00:51:53,427 Every country feels the need to tell a story about 777 00:51:53,468 --> 00:51:57,968 why it's richer than another or why it has become poorer. 778 00:51:58,468 --> 00:52:02,635 And it's this story that Reagan and Thatcher tell 779 00:52:03,093 --> 00:52:05,760 the American and British public. 780 00:52:06,116 --> 00:52:08,753 Thank you very much. 781 00:52:10,856 --> 00:52:14,059 Can anyone look at our reduced standing in the world today 782 00:52:14,091 --> 00:52:17,595 and say, "Let's have four more years of this"? 783 00:52:17,628 --> 00:52:20,463 No! 784 00:52:20,497 --> 00:52:23,768 For those who've abandoned hope, we'll restore hope 785 00:52:23,802 --> 00:52:26,503 and we'll welcome them into a great national crusade 786 00:52:26,536 --> 00:52:30,775 to make America great again. 787 00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:33,969 In the United States there was a feeling 788 00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:36,427 that Germany was catching up, 789 00:52:36,469 --> 00:52:38,386 that Japan was catching up - 790 00:52:38,427 --> 00:52:41,052 these countries that lost the war. 791 00:52:41,094 --> 00:52:45,177 And Reagan, and also Thatcher to a certain extent, 792 00:52:45,219 --> 00:52:48,427 use this ideological argument to say, 793 00:52:48,469 --> 00:52:50,844 "Look, these countries are catching up. 794 00:52:50,886 --> 00:52:54,719 "Something needs to change. What could we change? 795 00:52:54,761 --> 00:52:57,803 "Ah, it's because of the welfare state 796 00:52:58,553 --> 00:53:01,803 "that was put in place following the New Deal. 797 00:53:01,844 --> 00:53:03,761 "That's what's made us soft. 798 00:53:03,803 --> 00:53:06,469 "And so we must return to the mythical capitalism 799 00:53:06,511 --> 00:53:10,094 "of the 19th century. That's how we're going to re-energise." 800 00:53:12,952 --> 00:53:15,221 Here comes the Prime Ministerial Rover, 801 00:53:15,254 --> 00:53:17,522 bearing now Mrs. Thatcher. 802 00:53:17,555 --> 00:53:19,090 Enter Margaret Thatcher, 803 00:53:19,125 --> 00:53:22,194 a grocer's daughter educated among the privileged classes 804 00:53:22,228 --> 00:53:23,662 at Oxford University. 805 00:53:26,132 --> 00:53:29,235 There is now work to be done. 806 00:53:29,268 --> 00:53:31,737 In deciding that, actually, what we need to do 807 00:53:31,771 --> 00:53:36,142 is increase the value of assets in order to increase investment, 808 00:53:36,175 --> 00:53:38,778 some of the thinking behind what would happen 809 00:53:38,811 --> 00:53:42,048 when you let capital free, 810 00:53:42,081 --> 00:53:45,117 you had to suppress the power of labor. 811 00:53:49,088 --> 00:53:52,490 This 12-foot-high pile is part of two weeks' rubbish 812 00:53:52,524 --> 00:53:54,693 piled outside the local refuse depot. 813 00:53:54,727 --> 00:53:55,995 Like others in Central London, 814 00:53:56,028 --> 00:53:57,797 it's been closed now for two weeks 815 00:53:57,831 --> 00:53:59,632 because of the dustmen's indefinite strike. 816 00:53:59,664 --> 00:54:01,634 The teachers' union are today putting forward 817 00:54:01,666 --> 00:54:04,971 a pay claim. 33,000 school children are out of school 818 00:54:05,005 --> 00:54:07,239 in the worst-affected London borough of Haringey. 819 00:54:07,273 --> 00:54:08,673 Cancelled operations 820 00:54:08,708 --> 00:54:10,743 meant empty beds up on the wards, 821 00:54:10,777 --> 00:54:13,045 which would otherwise have been used. 822 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,914 You have to remember, at those times, 823 00:54:14,947 --> 00:54:19,086 there were issues about strikes; the public were upset about 824 00:54:19,118 --> 00:54:23,089 the way some labor unions were acting in that time. 825 00:54:23,123 --> 00:54:25,725 I'm going to boil everything because the sewage men, 826 00:54:25,759 --> 00:54:28,161 I understand, are still on strike, 827 00:54:28,195 --> 00:54:32,132 and so it'll be polluted, so you can get typhoid, 828 00:54:32,164 --> 00:54:34,034 can't you? 829 00:54:34,067 --> 00:54:36,103 There was a mandate to do something about 830 00:54:36,136 --> 00:54:38,305 the power of labor against capital. 831 00:54:38,338 --> 00:54:41,174 And it certainly is a tricky job trying to get that right. 832 00:54:41,208 --> 00:54:44,945 This government has rolled back the frontiers of the state 833 00:54:44,978 --> 00:54:48,181 and will roll them back still further. 834 00:54:48,215 --> 00:54:50,984 Millions have already become shareholders 835 00:54:51,018 --> 00:54:55,189 in British Gas, British Airways, British airports. 836 00:55:05,999 --> 00:55:07,267 Attention, all passengers. 837 00:55:07,300 --> 00:55:11,005 Flight 307 is cancelled until further notice. 838 00:55:11,039 --> 00:55:13,173 This incredible hostility to unions 839 00:55:13,207 --> 00:55:16,210 starts in the '80s and is really crystallized 840 00:55:16,243 --> 00:55:21,148 when Reagan fires all these air traffic controllers. 841 00:55:21,182 --> 00:55:23,683 I must tell those who fail to report for duty 842 00:55:23,716 --> 00:55:28,256 this morning, if they do not report for work within 48 hours, 843 00:55:28,289 --> 00:55:33,093 they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated. 844 00:55:33,127 --> 00:55:34,862 End of statement. 845 00:55:34,896 --> 00:55:37,331 That's kind of seen as like a greenlight 846 00:55:37,364 --> 00:55:39,200 to a whole industry. 847 00:55:41,102 --> 00:55:44,005 Good evening. This afternoon, President Reagan started firing 848 00:55:44,038 --> 00:55:46,908 the strikers, and the government claimed it was ready to rebuild 849 00:55:46,941 --> 00:55:48,776 the whole system without them. 850 00:55:53,347 --> 00:55:55,149 By this evening, federal judges had sent 851 00:55:55,183 --> 00:55:57,819 five local union leaders to jail. 852 00:56:05,026 --> 00:56:07,728 What we've seen over time... and this is fundamental 853 00:56:07,763 --> 00:56:10,898 to understanding why inequality has worsened... 854 00:56:10,933 --> 00:56:14,937 is that the share of all the money that's made in the economy 855 00:56:14,969 --> 00:56:17,806 is going less and less to the workers, so that is declining... 856 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,074 the wage share... 857 00:56:20,109 --> 00:56:23,711 and the profit share, essentially what those that own 858 00:56:23,744 --> 00:56:26,281 the capital will get, is growing. 859 00:56:28,715 --> 00:56:32,687 And that is essentially about power. 860 00:56:34,790 --> 00:56:37,658 Well, I, uh... I appreciate the opportunity you're giving me, 861 00:56:37,691 --> 00:56:41,029 Mr. Cromwell, as the single largest shareholder 862 00:56:41,063 --> 00:56:43,132 in Teldar Paper, to speak. 863 00:56:45,734 --> 00:56:48,403 America has become a second-rate power. 864 00:56:49,838 --> 00:56:51,306 Now, in the days of the free market, 865 00:56:51,340 --> 00:56:54,675 when our country was a top industrial power, 866 00:56:54,709 --> 00:56:58,347 there was accountability to the stockholder. 867 00:56:58,380 --> 00:57:00,016 The Carnegies, the Mellons, 868 00:57:00,048 --> 00:57:02,818 the men that built this great industrial empire, 869 00:57:02,851 --> 00:57:06,654 made sure of it because it was their money at stake. 870 00:57:07,923 --> 00:57:09,992 The point is, ladies and gentlemen, 871 00:57:10,025 --> 00:57:14,129 that greed... for lack of a better word... 872 00:57:14,164 --> 00:57:16,031 is good. 873 00:57:16,065 --> 00:57:17,934 Greed is right. 874 00:57:17,966 --> 00:57:20,036 Greed works. 875 00:57:20,068 --> 00:57:21,838 And greed... 876 00:57:22,505 --> 00:57:24,741 you mark my words... 877 00:57:24,773 --> 00:57:27,075 will not only save Teldar Paper, 878 00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:31,146 but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. 879 00:57:31,181 --> 00:57:33,849 Thank you very much. 880 00:57:33,883 --> 00:57:36,118 When Gordon Gekko was seen on film saying, 881 00:57:36,152 --> 00:57:40,823 "Greed is good," that was intended to be a howl of protest 882 00:57:40,857 --> 00:57:42,391 against the system. 883 00:57:42,425 --> 00:57:45,394 But such had the cultural fabric changed, 884 00:57:45,428 --> 00:57:48,031 that actually for some people coming through universities 885 00:57:48,064 --> 00:57:50,133 applying to join investment banks, 886 00:57:50,166 --> 00:57:53,002 that phrase "Greed is good" actually became a license 887 00:57:53,036 --> 00:57:54,938 to pursue riches. 888 00:58:03,947 --> 00:58:06,849 The era of the yuppie came to rule. 889 00:58:06,883 --> 00:58:09,786 ♪ Friday night and everyone's moving ♪ 890 00:58:09,819 --> 00:58:14,257 ♪ I can feel the heat, but it's soothing, heading down ♪ 891 00:58:14,291 --> 00:58:16,860 It began to become very cool to be an entrepreneur, 892 00:58:16,893 --> 00:58:18,494 to be riding that boom, 893 00:58:18,528 --> 00:58:22,866 and the idea of arguing for high taxes and redistribution 894 00:58:22,899 --> 00:58:25,035 began to seem very out of fashion. 895 00:58:25,068 --> 00:58:27,904 - ♪ We're the kids in America ♪ - ♪ Whoa ♪ 896 00:58:27,938 --> 00:58:30,841 - ♪ We're the kids in America ♪ - ♪ Whoa ♪ 897 00:58:30,873 --> 00:58:34,143 ♪ Everybody live for the music-go-round ♪ 898 00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:39,349 The new mantra of deregulation took hold, 899 00:58:39,383 --> 00:58:43,387 and so financial services were deregulated dramatically, 900 00:58:43,419 --> 00:58:45,321 bankers began to get paid a lot more, 901 00:58:45,356 --> 00:58:47,057 and then market forces were unleashed, 902 00:58:47,091 --> 00:58:50,293 which made capitalists a lot richer. 903 00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:53,831 ♪ Hot-shot... ♪ 904 00:59:02,206 --> 00:59:05,576 The big reforms of the Reagan-Thatcher era 905 00:59:05,609 --> 00:59:10,080 were lower the tax rates on the rich 906 00:59:10,114 --> 00:59:13,984 on the assumption it would trickle down. Didn't happen. 907 00:59:15,252 --> 00:59:17,489 When they adopted these kinds of policies, 908 00:59:17,521 --> 00:59:21,458 it was very clear that they would increase inequality. 909 00:59:21,493 --> 00:59:25,095 The promise was that the pie would be bigger, 910 00:59:25,129 --> 00:59:29,099 you would be getting a smaller percentage 911 00:59:29,134 --> 00:59:33,003 of a bigger pie, and your slice would get bigger. 912 00:59:34,305 --> 00:59:36,308 So in some sense, 913 00:59:37,642 --> 00:59:40,011 there was no surprise 914 00:59:40,044 --> 00:59:42,146 that there was a growth in inequality. 915 00:59:42,180 --> 00:59:45,149 But the magnitude of the increase in inequality 916 00:59:45,183 --> 00:59:46,950 was much larger. 917 00:59:46,985 --> 00:59:50,321 When we look at the numbers, we can see it very vividly. 918 00:59:50,355 --> 00:59:55,026 The bottom 90% have experienced near-stagnation. 919 00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:59,264 Most of the growth has gone to the top 10%. 920 00:59:59,297 --> 01:00:03,401 Median income for a typical American household is roughly 921 01:00:03,435 --> 01:00:06,137 at the level it was a quarter century ago. 922 01:00:06,171 --> 01:00:09,541 Real wages, adjusted for inflation, at the bottom 923 01:00:09,574 --> 01:00:12,410 are at the level they were 60 years ago. 924 01:00:16,481 --> 01:00:20,085 In fact, life expectancy has been declining. 925 01:00:21,619 --> 01:00:25,223 These are dramatic statistics that shows the economy 926 01:00:25,256 --> 01:00:28,526 has not been working for most Americans. 927 01:00:37,236 --> 01:00:40,439 By the 1990s, American banks really became the exporters 928 01:00:40,472 --> 01:00:43,008 of American capitalism, and they went everywhere... 929 01:00:43,042 --> 01:00:45,511 they went to Europe, they went to Asia. 930 01:00:47,245 --> 01:00:51,217 And everyone was sold our version of a trickle-down, 931 01:00:51,249 --> 01:00:54,453 laissez-faire deregulate capitalism. 932 01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:05,030 Life seemed to get better in the 1990s, 933 01:01:05,064 --> 01:01:07,633 because the globalization of the system 934 01:01:07,666 --> 01:01:11,669 made things for ordinary people for a while cheaper, 935 01:01:11,704 --> 01:01:14,173 but then on top of that, you get credit. 936 01:01:17,476 --> 01:01:19,512 When the credit boom took off, 937 01:01:19,545 --> 01:01:22,148 suddenly ordinary people could get credit. 938 01:01:22,181 --> 01:01:23,717 Master the moment. 939 01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:27,486 Suddenly, extraordinarily poor people could get credit. 940 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,555 - You can apply... - ...right over the phone. 941 01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:32,492 People with terrible credit histories could get credit. 942 01:01:32,525 --> 01:01:34,427 There is absolutely no risk. 943 01:01:34,460 --> 01:01:37,664 People who in no way should be given a mortgage 944 01:01:37,696 --> 01:01:40,567 could get a mortgage. 945 01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:43,537 And the investment banks created ever more exotic 946 01:01:43,570 --> 01:01:48,341 credit derivatives... ways of parceling up your bad debt 947 01:01:48,374 --> 01:01:51,011 and disguising its badness. 948 01:01:51,044 --> 01:01:55,147 That's what kept the system going for as long as it did. 949 01:01:55,182 --> 01:01:57,184 And 2008 was where that blew up. 950 01:01:58,685 --> 01:02:01,154 Wall Street in panic mode this morning. 951 01:02:01,188 --> 01:02:02,556 How did this happen? 952 01:02:02,589 --> 01:02:05,258 22% of homeowners are underwater on their mortgage... 953 01:02:05,292 --> 01:02:06,560 Millions of American homeowners... 954 01:02:06,593 --> 01:02:08,328 - Homeowners defaulting... - Greed. 955 01:02:08,361 --> 01:02:10,996 The essence of the American Dream could be threatened. 956 01:02:11,031 --> 01:02:13,533 - Sub-prime lending... - Higher interest rates... 957 01:02:13,567 --> 01:02:16,336 Let's see here, uh, balloon payment, 958 01:02:16,369 --> 01:02:19,206 37% interest compounded every minute, 959 01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:21,374 not understanding the contract fee, 960 01:02:21,408 --> 01:02:23,577 da, da, ba, da, ba, ba-da, bow. 961 01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:25,346 And here's your new monthly payment. 962 01:02:26,613 --> 01:02:28,482 Listen, you, when you gave me that money, 963 01:02:28,515 --> 01:02:31,485 you said I wouldn't have to repay it till the future. 964 01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:34,488 This isn't the future! It's the lousy, stinkin' now! 965 01:02:34,521 --> 01:02:39,594 Now, calm down. This country takes care of its middle class. 966 01:02:43,330 --> 01:02:45,066 Ah, don't be sore at the banks. 967 01:02:45,098 --> 01:02:48,636 Hell, we fired our CEO and he barely got out with $50 million. 968 01:02:50,438 --> 01:02:52,506 Banks are afraid to lend money to each other. 969 01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:54,474 We're seeing a freezing of the credit market. 970 01:02:54,509 --> 01:02:55,675 - ...credit markets. - ...credit markets. 971 01:02:55,710 --> 01:02:57,277 The fear is rising. 972 01:02:57,311 --> 01:03:00,715 The fear was, and I think it was a well-founded fear, 973 01:03:00,748 --> 01:03:04,118 that the availability of credit would disappear, 974 01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:06,287 and perhaps our ability to even transact, 975 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,456 to even be able to access cash to make payments, 976 01:03:08,489 --> 01:03:10,358 use a credit card, use a debit card. 977 01:03:10,391 --> 01:03:12,828 Perhaps that would break down also. 978 01:03:12,861 --> 01:03:15,463 Worst week since the crash of 1929. 979 01:03:15,496 --> 01:03:17,297 - ...global sell-off. - ...the Dow tumbled... 980 01:03:17,331 --> 01:03:19,667 - ...hoarding cash. - Japan down nearly 10%. 981 01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:23,472 The British government blamed American bankers. 982 01:03:23,504 --> 01:03:25,473 When it starts to unravel, then you start to worry... 983 01:03:25,506 --> 01:03:27,843 how broadly will this spread around the world 984 01:03:27,876 --> 01:03:30,779 and are we on the verge of another Great Depression? 985 01:03:30,812 --> 01:03:35,082 American taxpayers woke up this morning to learn their money 986 01:03:35,116 --> 01:03:36,450 makes up most of a... 987 01:03:36,484 --> 01:03:38,787 Big package, because it was a big problem. 988 01:03:38,821 --> 01:03:40,555 Too big to fail. 989 01:03:40,588 --> 01:03:44,559 The Fed loaned the banks some $7.7 trillion. 990 01:03:44,593 --> 01:03:47,361 Global markets soared at the news of the US rescue plan. 991 01:03:47,396 --> 01:03:50,498 With the bail-out news, the stock rebounded nearly 60%. 992 01:03:50,531 --> 01:03:52,801 ...Hong Kong more than 8%. London's FTSE... 993 01:03:52,834 --> 01:03:54,369 Stokes rose 15% in one hour... 994 01:03:54,402 --> 01:03:55,872 the largest single bounce in FTSE history. 995 01:03:55,904 --> 01:03:58,240 Those companies came to us and said, 996 01:03:58,272 --> 01:04:00,207 "Uh, if you don't give us $700 billion, 997 01:04:00,242 --> 01:04:01,777 everything you love and hold dear in this world 998 01:04:01,811 --> 01:04:04,146 will turn to." 999 01:04:04,178 --> 01:04:08,149 And in return for this in no way ransom money... 1000 01:04:09,550 --> 01:04:12,487 ...the American people would now be the proud owner 1001 01:04:12,521 --> 01:04:14,590 of these bales of. 1002 01:04:17,192 --> 01:04:20,696 The collapse didn't occur. The system was preserved 1003 01:04:20,729 --> 01:04:23,900 and the opportunity to substantially reform the system 1004 01:04:23,933 --> 01:04:26,468 was set aside. The stock market went down sharply, 1005 01:04:26,501 --> 01:04:30,539 and then it came back up sharply as a result of these measures. 1006 01:04:30,573 --> 01:04:33,141 In addition, wealthy people, rich people, 1007 01:04:33,175 --> 01:04:34,844 have a lot of exposure to the stock market, 1008 01:04:34,877 --> 01:04:37,412 so they kept their jobs, they kept their bonuses, 1009 01:04:37,447 --> 01:04:39,214 the businesses they were in were not 1010 01:04:39,248 --> 01:04:42,451 substantially disrupted, and they made more money 1011 01:04:42,484 --> 01:04:44,186 through stock appreciation 1012 01:04:44,220 --> 01:04:46,188 and through dividends and through expected dividends 1013 01:04:46,222 --> 01:04:48,491 than they had in the last couple of years. 1014 01:04:48,523 --> 01:04:50,493 Bloomberg estimates the banks made 1015 01:04:50,525 --> 01:04:53,362 a $13 billion profit on the spread. 1016 01:04:53,396 --> 01:04:56,231 73 executives from the unit that engineered 1017 01:04:56,265 --> 01:04:59,534 the company's downfall all just got bonus checks 1018 01:04:59,569 --> 01:05:03,673 - worth a million or more. - ...$1.6 billion in bonuses. 1019 01:05:05,207 --> 01:05:07,644 Wall Street and the views of Wall Street 1020 01:05:07,676 --> 01:05:09,678 had taken over policy. 1021 01:05:11,380 --> 01:05:13,383 That's the quiet coup. 1022 01:05:20,556 --> 01:05:23,660 Democracies in general are susceptible to this 1023 01:05:23,693 --> 01:05:25,695 capture by elites. 1024 01:05:27,898 --> 01:05:32,201 And unless the democracy is renewed by the non-elites 1025 01:05:32,235 --> 01:05:34,404 every now and then rising up, 1026 01:05:34,437 --> 01:05:38,207 the democracy will continue to move in this direction 1027 01:05:38,241 --> 01:05:43,613 where power and wealth are more and more concentrated. 1028 01:05:43,647 --> 01:05:47,617 All across the world, you now have this layer of oligarchs 1029 01:05:47,650 --> 01:05:51,587 that use their money to buy political influence. 1030 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,356 When you have too strong a concentration of capital 1031 01:06:00,398 --> 01:06:04,981 it leads to excessive influence over the media, 1032 01:06:05,023 --> 01:06:09,148 and also financing of political campaigns and political parties 1033 01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:12,148 that are in their own best interests. 1034 01:06:12,398 --> 01:06:17,356 But this logic of 'one dollar, one vote' is completely opposed 1035 01:06:17,606 --> 01:06:21,607 to the democratic logic of 'one person, one vote'. 1036 01:06:34,665 --> 01:06:37,367 Rationally speaking, it would make sense that 1037 01:06:37,401 --> 01:06:39,904 the more of something you have, maybe the more inclined 1038 01:06:39,938 --> 01:06:42,841 you would be to share it with other people. 1039 01:06:42,875 --> 01:06:46,343 But that's not what our research and what a lot of other research 1040 01:06:46,376 --> 01:06:48,445 seems to find. 1041 01:06:48,479 --> 01:06:51,983 We brought strangers into the lab in pairs of two; 1042 01:06:52,016 --> 01:06:53,818 with a flip of a coin determined 1043 01:06:53,852 --> 01:06:55,520 who was going to be a rich player 1044 01:06:55,552 --> 01:06:57,956 and was going to be a poor player. 1045 01:07:01,658 --> 01:07:05,362 The rich player got two times as much money to play the game, 1046 01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:07,565 they got to roll both dice instead of one, 1047 01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:09,633 so they got to move around the board a lot quicker, 1048 01:07:09,667 --> 01:07:12,036 and that mattered because when they moved around the board 1049 01:07:12,071 --> 01:07:13,773 and passed 'Go, ' 1050 01:07:13,805 --> 01:07:17,375 they would collect $200, whereas the poor person, 1051 01:07:17,407 --> 01:07:19,978 they'd collect $100. 1052 01:07:20,012 --> 01:07:22,080 The inequality's almost immediately apparent 1053 01:07:22,114 --> 01:07:23,949 to the players. How couldn't it be? 1054 01:07:23,983 --> 01:07:27,852 But within a couple of minutes, dynamics start to crystallize. 1055 01:07:33,691 --> 01:07:36,829 And the rich player started to behave a little differently. 1056 01:07:36,862 --> 01:07:38,663 Rich players become more dominant. 1057 01:07:40,099 --> 01:07:43,434 Rich players eat more pretzels. 1058 01:07:43,468 --> 01:07:48,374 When moving their piece around the board, they become louder. 1059 01:07:48,406 --> 01:07:52,011 They start smacking the board with their piece. 1060 01:07:53,879 --> 01:07:56,549 And the rich players were significantly ruder. 1061 01:07:58,716 --> 01:08:02,122 They were far more likely to showcase and talk about 1062 01:08:02,154 --> 01:08:05,090 how well they're doing 1063 01:08:05,125 --> 01:08:09,061 and to belittle the plight of those poor players. 1064 01:08:10,997 --> 01:08:14,033 So they became less compassionate. 1065 01:08:14,067 --> 01:08:17,036 These are patterns that we're observing consistently over 1066 01:08:17,070 --> 01:08:18,904 hundreds of different individuals. 1067 01:08:20,906 --> 01:08:24,543 You see people who are winning because of the flip of a coin 1068 01:08:24,576 --> 01:08:27,478 start to act as if they actually deserve to win. 1069 01:08:30,649 --> 01:08:34,888 One of the questions we ask is "Why did you win the game?" 1070 01:08:34,921 --> 01:08:36,990 And you can imagine the rich players would say, 1071 01:08:37,023 --> 01:08:38,992 "Well, I won the game because of that flip of the coin 1072 01:08:39,025 --> 01:08:42,494 and I had two times the advantage." 1073 01:08:42,527 --> 01:08:46,732 But none... not one... of the rich players 1074 01:08:46,766 --> 01:08:50,971 attributed their inevitable success in this game 1075 01:08:51,004 --> 01:08:56,142 to that force of luck that randomly got them 1076 01:08:56,177 --> 01:08:59,880 that privileged position in the first place. 1077 01:09:01,548 --> 01:09:04,918 And when we watch patterns of human interactions, 1078 01:09:04,952 --> 01:09:08,722 people who feel entitled and deserving of their own success 1079 01:09:08,755 --> 01:09:11,958 are more willing to privilege their own interests 1080 01:09:11,992 --> 01:09:13,827 above the interests of other people 1081 01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:16,428 and often engage in ways that undermine 1082 01:09:16,462 --> 01:09:19,967 other people's welfare so that they can get ahead. 1083 01:09:20,001 --> 01:09:24,171 And that's a fairly pernicious social consequence. 1084 01:09:25,973 --> 01:09:28,808 But it's not about people who are rich, 1085 01:09:28,843 --> 01:09:32,545 but rather that the experience of being relatively better off 1086 01:09:32,578 --> 01:09:35,615 than someone seems to affect everyone, 1087 01:09:35,649 --> 01:09:38,185 or would affect everyone, in the same way. 1088 01:09:39,652 --> 01:09:41,453 Yes, we won the lottery! 1089 01:09:47,127 --> 01:09:49,964 Peter, my God, what the hell are you wearing?! 1090 01:09:49,997 --> 01:09:53,134 It's a solid gold tuxedo, Lois. I had to fight three rappers 1091 01:09:53,167 --> 01:09:55,103 down at the Nonsense Store for this. 1092 01:09:55,136 --> 01:09:57,004 Look, Peter, this is not who we are. 1093 01:09:57,038 --> 01:09:59,040 I'm worried the money is changing this family, 1094 01:09:59,073 --> 01:10:00,808 and not the way you hoped. 1095 01:10:00,841 --> 01:10:03,078 Well, I was hoping it would make you shut up, so you're right. 1096 01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:06,147 When we, in experiments, get actually poor people 1097 01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:08,682 or we make poor people feel rich, 1098 01:10:08,715 --> 01:10:10,785 again, same pattern of results. 1099 01:10:10,818 --> 01:10:12,153 Lois, don't you understand? 1100 01:10:12,186 --> 01:10:14,155 We don't got any of our old problems anymore. 1101 01:10:14,188 --> 01:10:15,856 We don't have to worry about paying bills, 1102 01:10:15,890 --> 01:10:18,192 we don't have to worry about saving dough. 1103 01:10:18,226 --> 01:10:20,728 All we gotta do is enjoy ourselves. 1104 01:10:20,761 --> 01:10:22,697 Interested? 1105 01:10:24,265 --> 01:10:26,533 Oh my God! 1106 01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:31,173 Peter, it's beautiful. Is it a blood diamond? 1107 01:10:31,205 --> 01:10:33,007 Ah, the bloodiest. 1108 01:10:33,041 --> 01:10:35,543 The two kids who found it were forced to murder each other. 1109 01:10:35,576 --> 01:10:37,545 Oh, Peter, I love it! 1110 01:10:37,578 --> 01:10:40,982 We translate perceptions and experiences 1111 01:10:41,016 --> 01:10:44,019 of being better off than others materially 1112 01:10:44,052 --> 01:10:46,888 to being better than others. 1113 01:10:46,922 --> 01:10:49,156 The mind makes that translation, it seems. 1114 01:11:04,705 --> 01:11:07,142 Once you get people whose entire life is lived 1115 01:11:07,176 --> 01:11:10,611 on a kind of plane, you know, in First Class, 1116 01:11:10,644 --> 01:11:12,981 in the bubble of the security system, 1117 01:11:13,015 --> 01:11:15,317 and your villa in three or four different countries 1118 01:11:15,351 --> 01:11:18,619 you can move to if things get a bit unpleasant, 1119 01:11:18,653 --> 01:11:20,889 what happens to taxation? 1120 01:11:20,923 --> 01:11:25,093 What happens is large amounts of wealth are moved offshore. 1121 01:11:29,931 --> 01:11:33,770 For decades, individuals and companies have moved 1122 01:11:33,803 --> 01:11:37,940 their legal selves in order to avoid paying tax 1123 01:11:37,974 --> 01:11:41,077 that benefits the people who work for them. 1124 01:11:42,811 --> 01:11:45,280 So that when you come out of the HQ of one of these 1125 01:11:45,314 --> 01:11:48,117 giant trendy IT companies, 1126 01:11:48,151 --> 01:11:50,953 you fall over, you hit your head, 1127 01:11:50,987 --> 01:11:53,355 and you're lying on the pavement in a pool of blood, 1128 01:11:53,389 --> 01:11:55,825 an ambulance arrives 1129 01:11:55,858 --> 01:11:58,660 that has not been paid for in any way, shape or form 1130 01:11:58,693 --> 01:12:00,729 by the taxes of that company. 1131 01:12:02,799 --> 01:12:05,902 That's a very new system in capitalism. 1132 01:12:07,805 --> 01:12:10,273 And it is unsustainable 1133 01:12:10,306 --> 01:12:12,641 because to make it work, 1134 01:12:12,674 --> 01:12:15,745 the state must have access via taxation 1135 01:12:15,779 --> 01:12:18,147 to the incomes of the rich. 1136 01:12:22,052 --> 01:12:24,154 The EU has ordered the Irish government 1137 01:12:24,187 --> 01:12:28,125 to recover almost $15 billion of unpaid taxes from Apple. 1138 01:12:28,157 --> 01:12:30,960 $15 billion is more than the four years 1139 01:12:30,993 --> 01:12:34,063 of annual austerity cuts imposed by the Irish government. 1140 01:12:34,098 --> 01:12:36,866 Amazon's tax benefits are illegal. 1141 01:12:36,900 --> 01:12:39,269 Facebook paid less UK corporation tax 1142 01:12:39,303 --> 01:12:40,871 than your average teacher. 1143 01:12:40,904 --> 01:12:43,139 90,000 come from zero corporation tax. 1144 01:12:43,173 --> 01:12:45,242 - Scrutinize... - ...the rich avoiding taxes. 1145 01:12:45,275 --> 01:12:46,909 Google, Microsoft... 1146 01:12:46,944 --> 01:12:48,145 - McDonald's... - Facebook... 1147 01:12:53,082 --> 01:12:55,352 It just works much better for the holders 1148 01:12:55,384 --> 01:13:00,156 of capital than it does for people on the ground. 1149 01:13:00,190 --> 01:13:03,060 In particular, the giant cash-rich tech firms 1150 01:13:03,093 --> 01:13:06,296 can put people and money wherever they want to put them. 1151 01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:11,135 They just fly 35,000 feet above national concerns. 1152 01:13:11,168 --> 01:13:14,438 They create far fewer jobs than big industrial companies 1153 01:13:14,471 --> 01:13:18,242 of the past, yet they make vastly more money. 1154 01:13:25,916 --> 01:13:28,253 The great irony here is that everything that makes 1155 01:13:28,285 --> 01:13:30,720 a smart phone smart... 1156 01:13:30,755 --> 01:13:33,224 the internet, GPS, touchscreen technology... 1157 01:13:33,257 --> 01:13:37,060 all that was our taxpayer money going into federal agencies 1158 01:13:37,094 --> 01:13:39,797 like DARPA that created this stuff, 1159 01:13:39,831 --> 01:13:43,733 and yet the wealth doesn't flow back into the ecosystem. 1160 01:13:43,768 --> 01:13:48,705 Irish guys pay a fee to Google Netherlands Holding BV. 1161 01:13:48,738 --> 01:13:50,375 Is that to save withholding tax? 1162 01:13:50,407 --> 01:13:51,843 That's my understanding. 1163 01:13:51,876 --> 01:13:54,045 It therefore goes to Google Holdings Ireland? 1164 01:13:54,078 --> 01:13:55,914 - That's correct. - Which is registered in Ireland 1165 01:13:55,947 --> 01:13:57,815 but administered from Bermuda? 1166 01:13:57,849 --> 01:14:00,351 - That's correct. - So if that happens, 1167 01:14:00,384 --> 01:14:02,253 your profits actually go to Bermuda? 1168 01:14:03,955 --> 01:14:07,457 ♪ All that money, the money is the motive ♪ 1169 01:14:07,492 --> 01:14:11,462 ♪ All that money, the money is the motive ♪ 1170 01:14:11,496 --> 01:14:15,433 ♪ All that money, the money she be folding ♪ 1171 01:14:15,466 --> 01:14:17,268 ♪ Girl put in work ♪ 1172 01:14:17,302 --> 01:14:19,437 ♪ Girl, girl, put in work ♪ 1173 01:14:19,470 --> 01:14:21,207 ♪ Girl put in work ♪ 1174 01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:23,441 ♪ Girl, girl, put in work ♪ 1175 01:14:23,474 --> 01:14:24,943 ♪ Girl put in work... ♪ 1176 01:14:25,072 --> 01:14:29,864 In 2015, Google Alphabet reported making $15.5 billion 1177 01:14:29,906 --> 01:14:33,281 profit in Bermuda. 1178 01:14:33,947 --> 01:14:37,364 But nothing actually happens in Bermuda. 1179 01:14:37,406 --> 01:14:39,864 This is the first way countries 1180 01:14:40,364 --> 01:14:43,114 steal the tax base from each other. 1181 01:14:44,073 --> 01:14:48,573 The other way is through the industry of wealth management, 1182 01:14:48,614 --> 01:14:51,823 which has developed in many countries. 1183 01:14:51,864 --> 01:14:56,573 This industry sells shell companies and numbered accounts 1184 01:14:56,614 --> 01:15:00,448 protected by bank secrecy to wealthy families. 1185 01:15:01,547 --> 01:15:03,782 ♪ All that money ♪ 1186 01:15:03,816 --> 01:15:05,918 - ♪ The money is the motive ♪ - ♪ The money is the motive ♪ 1187 01:15:05,951 --> 01:15:09,455 ♪ All that money, the money she be folding ♪ 1188 01:15:09,488 --> 01:15:10,923 ♪ Girl, put in work... ♪ 1189 01:15:10,990 --> 01:15:13,948 You can't tax what you can't measure. 1190 01:15:14,058 --> 01:15:15,261 ♪ Girl put in work ♪ 1191 01:15:15,294 --> 01:15:17,296 ♪ Girl, girl, put in work ♪ 1192 01:15:20,740 --> 01:15:24,448 And so we live in an incredible statistical fog 1193 01:15:25,032 --> 01:15:29,407 about who owns wealth, who owns real estate in New York, 1194 01:15:30,407 --> 01:15:31,657 who owns real estate in Paris. 1195 01:15:33,157 --> 01:15:35,532 We check the records and we see shell companies. 1196 01:15:58,407 --> 01:16:03,990 The key to effectively fighting tax havens is pretty simple. 1197 01:16:05,324 --> 01:16:07,699 We need sanctions against territories 1198 01:16:07,741 --> 01:16:10,074 that enable tax evasion. 1199 01:16:10,116 --> 01:16:13,199 And we have to change the way we calculate 1200 01:16:13,241 --> 01:16:15,907 taxable profits in each country. 1201 01:16:16,907 --> 01:16:18,866 Let's take Apple. 1202 01:16:18,907 --> 01:16:25,616 Imagine Apple made $50 billion in global profits last year 1203 01:16:25,657 --> 01:16:29,991 and 10% of its worldwide sales were in France. 1204 01:16:31,533 --> 01:16:37,824 Then France could say, "10% of Apple's global profit, 1205 01:16:38,866 --> 01:16:42,283 "so $5 billion, should be taxed in France." 1206 01:16:43,116 --> 01:16:45,741 The beauty of this system is that 1207 01:16:45,783 --> 01:16:49,658 multinationals can manipulate the location of their profits, 1208 01:16:49,700 --> 01:16:52,616 but they cannot manipulate the location of their customers. 1209 01:16:52,658 --> 01:16:54,491 Their customers are in France, in Germany, 1210 01:16:54,533 --> 01:16:56,033 in England, in the United States. 1211 01:16:56,075 --> 01:16:58,033 You cannot send them to Bermuda. 1212 01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:09,243 Globalization has opened a global community up 1213 01:17:09,276 --> 01:17:10,610 to each other, 1214 01:17:10,644 --> 01:17:14,114 but it's also meant that in the developed world, 1215 01:17:14,148 --> 01:17:18,385 corporations were able to take jobs and move them 1216 01:17:18,419 --> 01:17:21,055 and make a lot of money out of it. 1217 01:17:23,224 --> 01:17:26,227 And on the other hand, the working and middle classes 1218 01:17:26,259 --> 01:17:29,697 that were doing quite well have lost quality of life 1219 01:17:29,730 --> 01:17:31,599 and opportunities. 1220 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,171 And their governments and their corporations 1221 01:17:37,204 --> 01:17:41,542 have done very little... in some cases, really nothing at all... 1222 01:17:41,575 --> 01:17:43,577 to address that. 1223 01:17:47,148 --> 01:17:50,285 The United States and Europe are vastly more divided 1224 01:17:50,317 --> 01:17:51,719 because of globalization. 1225 01:17:51,754 --> 01:17:55,322 India, The Philippines, China are not. 1226 01:18:02,030 --> 01:18:06,267 Chinese people, they believe that if they work hard, 1227 01:18:06,301 --> 01:18:08,135 their kids are gonna have better lives, 1228 01:18:08,169 --> 01:18:09,971 and that's probably true. 1229 01:18:10,005 --> 01:18:12,707 But in the United States, that's just not true anymore. 1230 01:18:19,481 --> 01:18:24,285 If you go to Beijing or Shenzhen or Shanghai 1231 01:18:24,319 --> 01:18:27,055 or Guangzhou or any of these sort of 1232 01:18:27,087 --> 01:18:29,724 wealthier cities in China that have made it... 1233 01:18:29,759 --> 01:18:32,427 Shanghai, where per capita income 1234 01:18:32,460 --> 01:18:36,465 is higher than Portugal... you will meet middle class Chinese, 1235 01:18:36,498 --> 01:18:38,500 and I mean global middle class Chinese; 1236 01:18:38,533 --> 01:18:41,336 I don't mean middle class from the Chinese context. 1237 01:18:41,369 --> 01:18:45,040 And that is a very different China from what you saw 1238 01:18:45,073 --> 01:18:47,075 even 10 years ago. 1239 01:18:50,612 --> 01:18:53,315 China's now almost the largest economy in the world; 1240 01:18:53,348 --> 01:18:55,685 within the next decade it will be, 1241 01:18:55,717 --> 01:18:58,755 but it will still be state capitalist. 1242 01:19:04,527 --> 01:19:08,731 State capitalism is where state-owned enterprises 1243 01:19:08,764 --> 01:19:13,068 are the most important actors in the economy. 1244 01:19:13,102 --> 01:19:15,371 These corporations are, in principle, 1245 01:19:15,404 --> 01:19:18,139 trying to make money and build themselves, 1246 01:19:18,174 --> 01:19:20,276 and sometimes they do compete against each other 1247 01:19:20,309 --> 01:19:23,079 in a fairly controlled fashion. 1248 01:19:23,111 --> 01:19:27,049 But the other important Chinese actors are what you'd call 1249 01:19:27,083 --> 01:19:29,285 privately owned national champions. 1250 01:19:29,318 --> 01:19:32,622 So, in other words, they are actively supported by the state, 1251 01:19:32,655 --> 01:19:34,524 even though they're privately held, 1252 01:19:34,557 --> 01:19:36,626 and they benefit accordingly. 1253 01:19:40,764 --> 01:19:43,533 Also you have hundreds of millions of people 1254 01:19:43,566 --> 01:19:45,736 who are quite poor, 1255 01:19:45,769 --> 01:19:47,537 but they want state capitalism. 1256 01:19:47,570 --> 01:19:51,073 It's fine for them, as long as they can make enough money 1257 01:19:51,108 --> 01:19:54,311 to ensure that their kids will do better. 1258 01:19:58,952 --> 01:20:02,786 The average income in China since the late 1970s 1259 01:20:03,286 --> 01:20:05,453 has increased by 800%. 1260 01:20:07,244 --> 01:20:09,328 800% is huge. 1261 01:20:10,036 --> 01:20:16,494 But the income of the richest 1% increased by 2000%. 1262 01:20:16,828 --> 01:20:21,369 So it is a country that is growing, 1263 01:20:21,703 --> 01:20:24,453 but this growth is highly unequal. 1264 01:20:34,551 --> 01:20:37,755 China does show what freeing up capital will do to 1265 01:20:37,788 --> 01:20:40,257 income distribution. 1266 01:20:40,290 --> 01:20:43,694 Capital really has to be regulated much, much more 1267 01:20:43,727 --> 01:20:47,197 strictly than things in the real economy. 1268 01:20:50,233 --> 01:20:53,771 There's a fundamental difference between liberalization 1269 01:20:53,805 --> 01:20:55,572 of capital markets 1270 01:20:55,606 --> 01:20:59,812 and liberalization of trade and goods and services. 1271 01:20:59,844 --> 01:21:04,348 This was one of the big lessons of the Great Depression. 1272 01:21:06,416 --> 01:21:09,720 Modern capitalism is all about the free movement 1273 01:21:09,755 --> 01:21:11,823 of global capital, 1274 01:21:11,857 --> 01:21:14,860 and the financial system itself has changed 1275 01:21:14,892 --> 01:21:16,728 over the last 40 years. 1276 01:21:16,762 --> 01:21:19,832 The financial industry has about doubled in size as a percentage 1277 01:21:19,864 --> 01:21:22,935 of the economy, and that's actually created slower growth, 1278 01:21:22,967 --> 01:21:25,838 not faster growth. 1279 01:21:25,870 --> 01:21:28,639 When Adam Smith, the father of modern capitalism, 1280 01:21:28,673 --> 01:21:31,676 was thinking up the idea of the free market system, 1281 01:21:31,709 --> 01:21:33,511 he was living in a very different world. 1282 01:21:33,543 --> 01:21:35,713 Hey, why not? My own business. 1283 01:21:35,747 --> 01:21:39,250 All you need's a little capital, a little push and an idea. 1284 01:21:39,283 --> 01:21:41,686 Small and mid-sized family-owned businesses 1285 01:21:41,719 --> 01:21:42,888 were the norm. 1286 01:21:42,921 --> 01:21:44,688 I wouldn't wear that hat to a dog fight. 1287 01:21:44,722 --> 01:21:46,925 Why, there isn't a decent hat in the entire village. 1288 01:21:46,959 --> 01:21:50,864 Why not? Women's hats! My own business! 1289 01:21:50,896 --> 01:21:52,765 He believed that the financial markets 1290 01:21:52,798 --> 01:21:55,566 were just an intermediary... they were supposed to take 1291 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,437 everyone's savings, hold them as bank deposits, 1292 01:21:58,469 --> 01:22:03,307 and then lend them out to the hairdresser down the street. 1293 01:22:03,341 --> 01:22:05,476 Not to be too cliché, but it's kind of the 1294 01:22:05,511 --> 01:22:08,782 "It's a Wonderful Life" model of banking. 1295 01:22:10,415 --> 01:22:12,384 I think if Adam Smith time-warped, 1296 01:22:12,417 --> 01:22:16,588 he would have no idea what to make of a "too big to fail" bank 1297 01:22:16,621 --> 01:22:19,323 or a giant multinational company that's doing business 1298 01:22:19,358 --> 01:22:20,860 in 120 different countries, 1299 01:22:20,893 --> 01:22:23,594 all of which have different regulatory systems. 1300 01:22:23,629 --> 01:22:25,596 It's a completely different world. 1301 01:22:35,507 --> 01:22:40,713 Statistics today show that only 15% of money 1302 01:22:40,746 --> 01:22:43,348 coming out of the largest financial institutions 1303 01:22:43,382 --> 01:22:46,385 is actually going to that kind of productive lending. 1304 01:22:46,418 --> 01:22:48,922 So what's the other 85% doing? 1305 01:22:48,955 --> 01:22:51,657 It's just moving around this closed loop 1306 01:22:51,689 --> 01:22:53,392 of the financial system... 1307 01:22:53,425 --> 01:22:56,996 its assets being bought and sold by the same people; 1308 01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:59,933 their value going up, up, up, up, up. 1309 01:23:02,634 --> 01:23:06,940 For the rich, it's easier to keep your wealth away 1310 01:23:06,973 --> 01:23:09,441 from productive, risky activity, 1311 01:23:09,475 --> 01:23:12,678 and this is producing a new social story. 1312 01:23:15,347 --> 01:23:18,650 It's easier to build a property, 1313 01:23:18,685 --> 01:23:20,652 and maybe you don't fill that property, 1314 01:23:20,687 --> 01:23:23,590 maybe all the apartments in the property aren't filled, 1315 01:23:23,622 --> 01:23:25,960 but you know in five years' time that property will be worth 1316 01:23:25,992 --> 01:23:30,663 so much more, that your business is really to sit on assets 1317 01:23:30,696 --> 01:23:33,333 and hope their value rises, 1318 01:23:33,365 --> 01:23:36,302 rather than to try and make money by risking your money 1319 01:23:36,336 --> 01:23:40,875 in activities like open a factory or invent something new. 1320 01:23:43,943 --> 01:23:46,379 If you own a house, you're making capital gains 1321 01:23:46,412 --> 01:23:49,749 out of that far in excess of what people get 1322 01:23:49,784 --> 01:23:51,786 through just regular jobs. 1323 01:23:51,819 --> 01:23:54,554 Therefore, people have become property speculators. 1324 01:23:54,587 --> 01:23:58,625 And this changes the whole way the housing situation operates. 1325 01:23:59,927 --> 01:24:02,428 And, essentially, it starts dividing. 1326 01:24:03,831 --> 01:24:05,598 This housing crisis that's happening 1327 01:24:05,632 --> 01:24:07,367 really throughout the West is something 1328 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,671 that particularly affects the young. 1329 01:24:11,704 --> 01:24:16,011 Most people view this as some sort of generational fight. 1330 01:24:16,043 --> 01:24:18,612 The baby boomers benefited from buying houses 1331 01:24:18,645 --> 01:24:20,547 when they were relatively cheap, 1332 01:24:20,580 --> 01:24:23,885 and therefore have a very nice nest egg for their retirement, 1333 01:24:23,918 --> 01:24:28,790 and it's the young people that can't even rent cheaply. 1334 01:24:28,823 --> 01:24:31,724 Those at the bottom, I think, are quite polarized... 1335 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,461 angry, in fact. 1336 01:24:34,494 --> 01:24:37,631 These houses, essentially, earn more money than they do, 1337 01:24:37,665 --> 01:24:39,733 and they have to rent them. 1338 01:24:49,010 --> 01:24:51,612 It transmits to the poor or middle class person 1339 01:24:51,644 --> 01:24:55,449 that the best thing they can do is to hope that their home 1340 01:24:55,482 --> 01:24:57,085 rises so much in value 1341 01:24:57,117 --> 01:24:59,486 that it offsets all the other problems in their life, 1342 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,089 like that their pension was destroyed 1343 01:25:01,122 --> 01:25:02,623 or that they lost their job 1344 01:25:02,656 --> 01:25:05,593 or that their kids are gonna be poor. 1345 01:25:15,569 --> 01:25:19,441 Young people are naturally more hopeful. 1346 01:25:19,473 --> 01:25:22,409 But they are aware, they are acutely aware, 1347 01:25:22,443 --> 01:25:25,046 that they've been given a raw deal. 1348 01:25:27,016 --> 01:25:29,117 You know, why is it, to educate yourself, 1349 01:25:29,150 --> 01:25:33,654 you have to get yourself into £50,000 of debt? 1350 01:25:33,688 --> 01:25:37,424 And a lot of young people feel infantiled. 1351 01:25:37,459 --> 01:25:41,163 Why does my incredibly smart 26-year-old brother-in-law 1352 01:25:41,196 --> 01:25:42,932 still have to live at home? 1353 01:25:42,965 --> 01:25:46,667 He's asking that, my in-laws are asking that. 1354 01:26:01,716 --> 01:26:05,487 What we've told people is that, "You're not poor; 1355 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,089 you're a millionaire-in-waiting. 1356 01:26:07,123 --> 01:26:09,691 And because of that, don't worry about inequality, 1357 01:26:09,724 --> 01:26:11,593 just focus on how hard you're working 1358 01:26:11,626 --> 01:26:15,197 and trying to run, run, run, run up that hill," 1359 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:23,005 which is ironic, because societies that are more unequal 1360 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,174 have less social mobility. 1361 01:26:27,743 --> 01:26:30,179 The rungs of the ladder grow apart, 1362 01:26:30,213 --> 01:26:34,951 people have the money to make sure they stay at the top, 1363 01:26:34,985 --> 01:26:38,620 and it means it's harder for people to climb. 1364 01:26:38,653 --> 01:26:43,125 That's something that you find again and again in the data. 1365 01:26:43,993 --> 01:26:46,695 The system is rigged. 1366 01:26:46,728 --> 01:26:50,666 And people aren't stupid... they recognize that. 1367 01:27:05,816 --> 01:27:07,918 Essentially, what's happening is that you're 1368 01:27:07,951 --> 01:27:10,753 getting an economy which is more and more productive, 1369 01:27:10,787 --> 01:27:14,224 but where the gains of those productivity increases 1370 01:27:14,257 --> 01:27:18,829 are going into the hands of a very small number of people. 1371 01:27:18,862 --> 01:27:20,596 And where there is job growth 1372 01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:22,299 is at the lower end of the spectrum, 1373 01:27:22,332 --> 01:27:25,902 which is often low-paid, fairly unsatisfactory work. 1374 01:27:32,708 --> 01:27:35,678 Our labor market is shifting. 1375 01:27:35,712 --> 01:27:39,917 More and more, it classifies people as "self-employed." 1376 01:27:39,950 --> 01:27:42,286 And what that means is that companies won't owe them 1377 01:27:42,319 --> 01:27:46,123 holiday pay, won't owe them a pension, 1378 01:27:46,156 --> 01:27:49,260 and those individual workers have to make sure 1379 01:27:49,293 --> 01:27:52,195 that they can look after themselves if they're sick, 1380 01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:54,731 if they want to take a holiday. 1381 01:27:59,237 --> 01:28:01,570 You know what, when Piketty says 1382 01:28:01,605 --> 01:28:04,842 that the future for capitalism is this highly illegal, 1383 01:28:04,876 --> 01:28:09,713 highly socially immobile future, it's already happening. 1384 01:28:15,752 --> 01:28:17,989 America's about to see the biggest wealth transfer 1385 01:28:18,022 --> 01:28:22,060 in history take place, as the generation which made money 1386 01:28:22,093 --> 01:28:23,895 after World War II 1387 01:28:23,928 --> 01:28:27,597 is passing that wealth on to their children. 1388 01:28:36,874 --> 01:28:39,210 Something in the order of $12 trillion or more 1389 01:28:39,244 --> 01:28:41,279 is going to be passed on to the next generation 1390 01:28:41,313 --> 01:28:44,216 in the next 10 to 15 years. 1391 01:28:44,248 --> 01:28:47,952 And that will be invested in a way that it creates more wealth. 1392 01:28:55,474 --> 01:28:57,600 It's very likely that in the 21st century 1393 01:28:57,641 --> 01:29:00,267 inheritance will return to playing a role 1394 01:29:00,309 --> 01:29:04,727 as significant as in 19th century England and France. 1395 01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:11,563 Inheritance allows a small portion of the population 1396 01:29:11,897 --> 01:29:14,481 to lead a very opulent lifestyle 1397 01:29:15,565 --> 01:29:19,775 because inherited wealth produces an income. 1398 01:29:22,567 --> 01:29:25,735 In fact, the rate of return on capital throughout history 1399 01:29:25,777 --> 01:29:27,944 has almost always been higher 1400 01:29:27,986 --> 01:29:30,820 than the rate of economic growth. 1401 01:29:38,115 --> 01:29:40,282 If we look back to 1700, 1402 01:29:40,324 --> 01:29:43,533 which is the very beginning of Industrial Revolution, 1403 01:29:43,575 --> 01:29:47,785 until today, 2018, the growth rate of the world economy 1404 01:29:47,827 --> 01:29:50,869 is 1.6% per year over three centuries. 1405 01:29:52,745 --> 01:29:56,330 This is much less than the rate of return on capital, 1406 01:29:56,371 --> 01:29:58,455 which is around 4% to 5% a year over the same period. 1407 01:30:04,083 --> 01:30:07,167 But is it catastrophic? No, not necessarily. 1408 01:30:07,209 --> 01:30:10,627 If everyone owned a portion of the capital, 1409 01:30:11,002 --> 01:30:13,628 so if everyone owned an apartment 1410 01:30:13,669 --> 01:30:15,170 and shares in a pension fund, 1411 01:30:15,212 --> 01:30:18,088 it wouldn't be so bad that the return on capital 1412 01:30:18,129 --> 01:30:20,589 is higher than the growth rate. 1413 01:30:20,922 --> 01:30:24,840 The problem is concentration of ownership 1414 01:30:24,882 --> 01:30:26,549 and therefore also of power within society, 1415 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:34,010 which leads to a reproduction of social hierarchies 1416 01:30:35,052 --> 01:30:37,803 and rising tensions among the working and middle classes. 1417 01:30:47,843 --> 01:30:51,314 There's now research showing that in advanced economies, 1418 01:30:51,349 --> 01:30:54,820 that two-thirds of the population is now on track 1419 01:30:54,852 --> 01:30:57,223 to be poorer than their parents, 1420 01:30:57,256 --> 01:31:00,159 which is a huge, huge mega political trend. 1421 01:31:13,646 --> 01:31:16,650 People on the streets are starting to say, "Enough"... 1422 01:31:17,234 --> 01:31:21,944 Disperse yourselves or we will have to use force. 1423 01:31:22,257 --> 01:31:25,595 ...enough of the inequality and enough of not having a story 1424 01:31:25,628 --> 01:31:28,499 about how this ever gets better. 1425 01:31:28,532 --> 01:31:30,167 And people are reaching out 1426 01:31:30,201 --> 01:31:32,138 for the nearest thing they can cling to, 1427 01:31:32,170 --> 01:31:34,407 and often that is their identity, their ethnicity, 1428 01:31:34,441 --> 01:31:36,610 their religion. 1429 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,823 And they lash out against the nearest enemy they can find. 1430 01:31:46,857 --> 01:31:49,261 Vast amounts of unskilled labor 1431 01:31:49,294 --> 01:31:51,129 coming into this country. 1432 01:31:51,163 --> 01:31:53,566 They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, 1433 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:54,735 they're rapists. 1434 01:31:55,248 --> 01:31:58,083 Behind mass immigration is Islamism. 1435 01:31:58,124 --> 01:32:00,908 Behind mass immigration is terrorism. 1436 01:32:00,943 --> 01:32:03,547 But ultimately, none of that will work. 1437 01:32:03,579 --> 01:32:07,585 Blaming your neighbor doesn't make you any richer. 1438 01:32:08,753 --> 01:32:10,379 There are always politicians 1439 01:32:10,421 --> 01:32:14,630 tempted to exploit the rising inequality. 1440 01:32:17,632 --> 01:32:19,674 And you could see this very clearly 1441 01:32:19,716 --> 01:32:22,467 in the world before 1914. 1442 01:32:23,717 --> 01:32:26,385 And I'm very afraid at the beginning of the 21st century 1443 01:32:26,426 --> 01:32:28,302 that because we feel we cannot 1444 01:32:28,344 --> 01:32:30,636 regulate international capitalism, 1445 01:32:30,678 --> 01:32:34,763 we cannot properly tax multinationals and billionaires, 1446 01:32:34,804 --> 01:32:39,556 instead we vent our anger on immigrants. 1447 01:32:39,598 --> 01:32:42,432 It's safer than attacking multinationals. 1448 01:32:47,851 --> 01:32:49,477 But the truth is, 1449 01:32:49,518 --> 01:32:53,061 to solve the rise and persistence of inequality, 1450 01:32:53,103 --> 01:32:56,062 we need a progressive tax on capital. 1451 01:32:58,396 --> 01:33:02,440 And also, ownership rights cannot be eternal. 1452 01:33:03,690 --> 01:33:06,316 The moment capital is inherited by the next generation, 1453 01:33:06,358 --> 01:33:09,692 and also each year if you own a lot of capital, 1454 01:33:09,734 --> 01:33:13,777 you have to return to the community 1%, 2%, 3%, 1455 01:33:13,819 --> 01:33:17,570 or why not 5% or 10% if you own billions and billions? 1456 01:33:17,612 --> 01:33:21,863 And if you continue to invest your capital usefully, 1457 01:33:22,113 --> 01:33:25,823 with high returns, you can continue to prosper. 1458 01:33:25,865 --> 01:33:28,866 But if financial markets allow you to have a high return 1459 01:33:28,908 --> 01:33:31,492 without doing anything, 1460 01:33:31,534 --> 01:33:36,911 then tax rates are set to erode this mechanism. 1461 01:33:44,622 --> 01:33:47,206 This means we'll be able to control 1462 01:33:47,248 --> 01:33:49,082 some of the concentration of capital, 1463 01:33:49,123 --> 01:33:50,707 and therefore political power, 1464 01:33:53,375 --> 01:33:56,251 and also access to property for the middle class. 1465 01:34:12,340 --> 01:34:16,008 A lot of people are not ready to discuss the merits 1466 01:34:16,050 --> 01:34:20,010 of strong taxation rates on revenue and inheritance. 1467 01:34:20,051 --> 01:34:22,719 But without this to regulate capitalism, 1468 01:34:22,761 --> 01:34:25,762 there will be disastrous consequences for everyone. 1469 01:34:37,724 --> 01:34:39,760 You know, if you wanna think about what the longer term 1470 01:34:39,793 --> 01:34:43,599 implications are, I mean, the truly dystopian implications, 1471 01:34:43,632 --> 01:34:45,435 you think about horses. 1472 01:34:46,770 --> 01:34:49,674 I mean, we used to have a lot of horses. 1473 01:34:50,675 --> 01:34:52,377 End of the 19th century, right, 1474 01:34:52,411 --> 01:34:55,982 I mean, horses were critical for industrialization. 1475 01:34:56,016 --> 01:34:58,419 And then they weren't, 1476 01:34:58,452 --> 01:35:00,856 because you have all these industrial processes 1477 01:35:00,889 --> 01:35:04,594 that are much more efficient than horses are. 1478 01:35:06,095 --> 01:35:09,100 And, you know, for all of the technophiles 1479 01:35:09,133 --> 01:35:13,505 that are saying, "Technology has always created more jobs, 1480 01:35:13,540 --> 01:35:15,475 and so it will continue to," 1481 01:35:15,508 --> 01:35:18,679 I say, "Technology has always created more jobs, 1482 01:35:18,714 --> 01:35:23,586 as long as you had things that human beings could do." 1483 01:35:29,228 --> 01:35:32,666 But when technology starts actually getting at 1484 01:35:32,699 --> 01:35:35,970 the basic functionality of a human being, 1485 01:35:38,774 --> 01:35:43,613 then human beings start becoming the equivalent of horses. 1486 01:35:45,716 --> 01:35:47,519 And that doesn't mean 1487 01:35:47,552 --> 01:35:50,758 that we can no longer have meaningful lives, 1488 01:35:50,790 --> 01:35:52,893 but it means that you have to change your model 1489 01:35:52,927 --> 01:35:56,698 because capitalism is no longer about labor. 1490 01:36:01,539 --> 01:36:05,043 And the problem is this is coming soon, soon, soon. 1491 01:36:06,512 --> 01:36:09,749 You look at driverless technologies. 1492 01:36:09,783 --> 01:36:14,222 Driving is, by the way, the single largest or second largest 1493 01:36:14,257 --> 01:36:18,528 employer of people in every one of the 50 US states, 1494 01:36:18,562 --> 01:36:22,234 and within 10 years, most of those jobs are gone. 1495 01:36:25,004 --> 01:36:30,245 So you will address capital, because if you don't, right, 1496 01:36:30,278 --> 01:36:33,916 you are going to have very serious problems. 1497 01:36:53,677 --> 01:36:55,279 We're leaving an industrial economy 1498 01:36:55,313 --> 01:36:58,684 and going to a post-industrial economy. 1499 01:36:58,716 --> 01:37:01,020 And we have to make choices 1500 01:37:01,053 --> 01:37:03,723 about which future we wind up in. 1501 01:37:06,060 --> 01:37:10,098 You can have abundance that is very unequally distributed, 1502 01:37:10,133 --> 01:37:13,837 where we have the robots that can do anything, 1503 01:37:13,870 --> 01:37:16,741 but the only people that own the robots are a very small 1504 01:37:16,775 --> 01:37:18,777 segment of society,... 1505 01:37:20,614 --> 01:37:23,251 basically like Elysium, where a bunch of people 1506 01:37:23,284 --> 01:37:25,853 live in ecologically protected spaces 1507 01:37:25,887 --> 01:37:30,294 and everyone else is living in, like, a hot, putrid mess. 1508 01:37:33,164 --> 01:37:36,034 And so it's a political problem. 1509 01:37:46,044 --> 01:37:50,420 The challenges today of creating a more equal society 1510 01:37:50,712 --> 01:37:52,838 are obviously different from the 20th century. 1511 01:37:53,588 --> 01:37:57,590 But the important point I want to stress is that 1512 01:37:58,923 --> 01:38:01,508 it's not technically impossible; 1513 01:38:01,549 --> 01:38:03,425 it's primarily a political and intellectual challenge. 1514 01:38:07,843 --> 01:38:09,636 And the good news is that 1515 01:38:09,677 --> 01:38:12,470 we can also find reasons from history to be optimistic. 1516 01:38:17,180 --> 01:38:21,473 History shows us that if we want society to be cohesive 1517 01:38:21,515 --> 01:38:23,724 in a peaceful and harmonious way, 1518 01:38:23,766 --> 01:38:27,184 we must prevent inequality from becoming too high. 1519 01:38:31,477 --> 01:38:35,770 I am for controlling capital to go beyond capitalism, 1520 01:38:38,563 --> 01:38:42,773 with ways that are more democratic, more inclusive, 1521 01:38:43,273 --> 01:38:47,191 and finally allow us to project ourselves into the 21st century. 125706

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