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Flying Saucers have invaded
our planet,

Washington, London, Paris,
Moscow are

key targets, the whole world
is under attack!

People of Earth, attention!

In 1952 the Central
Intelligence Agency

faced with a huge public
interest in flying

saucers brought in a panel of
scientists,

very senior scientists,

we know it now as the.

Robertson panel.

They concluded that there was
nothing

to these flying saucer reports

as objective devices of some
kind

but that, nevertheless, the
government had to

exercise great care to debunk

the stories and individual
civilians

who expressed an interest in
flying saucers

ought to be carefully watched

said the Robertson panel.

And I believe that to be the
founding document,

the document giving the long
range strategy

that has been followed by the
US government.

The general feeling amongst
people

who have devoted a big chunk
of their life

to studying UFOs I think is
fear that they have

been taken for a ride, that
these cases are

hoaxes, but sophisticated hoaxes

carried out by their own
government.

What do you want with me?

Let's take one step at a time,

you're looking at Richard Doty,

the professional disinformer,
trained to lie.

I'm Richard Doty.

There's probably about 80% of
false information

being presented and about 20%

of factual information.

Unfortunately the UFO community

doesn't know which is which.

And that's your job,

to keep it that way?

That was my job before,

I'm a private citizen now.

But back in the early eighties
it was my job

to confuse the UFO community.

Doty was representing himself,
as I recall,

as basically this sort of deep
throat.

Doty had this wonderful way to
sell it,

I'm with the government you
cooperate with us,

and I'm going to tell you what
the

government really knows about
UFOs.

Doty found a lot of gullible
people

in the UFO community,

that would easily believe

what he said without any type
of scrutiny.

My commander told me

"well there's this guy Special
Agent Doty,"

and you've got to be careful

"because he kinda made the..."

the impression I got was that

he had made the Air Force a
little nervous.

Maybe... they didn't say

egg on their face or anything,

but they were just very
cautious.

The main reason that we in the
UFO field

recognise the name Richard Doty

is that a man Paul Bennewitz

a self-made man

a very successful businessman

was systematically driven insane

wound up in an insane asylum
under treatment

for a long time, lost his
business

had to turn it over to his
family,

and was destroyed by the
efforts of.

Richard Doty.

You hear about the ones that

something goes wrong.

You hear about the ones where
there was an

unfortunate incident or in
some cases

there are failures.

It was unfortunate

what happened to Mr Bennewitz

but they were supposed to
protect

something and they did their
job.

That's the part of the base that.

Paul Bennewitz could see.

You can see the Manzano
mountain here

where all the nuclear weapons
were stored.

Kirtland Air Force Base's
perimeter fence,

Paul Bennewitz's house is
right over here, and

his excellent view was
afforded from this

exclusive area of Albuquerque.

You basically have a front row
seat.

August, September of 1979.

Paul was standing up on his deck

and looking up over the roofs
towards the base

and these lights he saw would
probably be

about half a mile away

there was always two of them

they'd lift up from the ground
rather quickly

and then very quickly go around,

shoot that way around the side
of the mountain

and then drop down behind it.

And they did the same thing
every time.

For anybody that would peak
your interest,

"what the hell is that?"

He had an interest in the UFO
subject

it was about the only thing he
was interested in

besides his business.

He had a company called
Thunder Scientific

they designed instruments for

high profile people like NASA

and even the Air Force.

A lot of people said he was a
genius

with electronics and he
decided that he was

going to listen in on what was
going on

at the base, maybe he could
pick up some

radio signals about what this
thing was

and he knew about where to
start looking

and he started picking up

these bursts of information,
when he started

to decode the signals he
thought that it

had a connection to whatever

these lights were.

He decided it was something to
do with

technology that wasn't ours.

He was a good American, so he
called up

the Air Force base, they

connected him with Richard
Doty eventually.

Paul didn't know initially
what he got,

he didn't analyse it.

And when he had got the first
series of

transmissions, he recorded them,

and then he contacted the
security officer

for Kirtland. I began a
dialogue with Paul

trying to find out everything
he had

and as I did then I learned
that a lot of the

information he had wasn't
anything to do

with a soviet threat or some
kind of hostile

threat against Kirtland it was
information

that he had gathered

because of the fact that he
was a scientist,

and because he had sensitive and

sophisticated equipment he was
collecting

emissions coming from the base.

And we had to decide

what we were going to do then

were we going to allow this to
happen?

Or were we going to try and

convince him otherwise?

They sent Doty and a physicist.

Paul was being occupied with
the other guy,

Rick was taking pictures

of Bennewitz's equipment in
his house.

The more he had contact with
me and others

within the intelligence
community, the more

he started analysing the
information.

So, we kinda planted the seed
in Paul that

what he was seeing and what he
was hearing

and what he was collecting was
in fact

probably, maybe, UFOs!

It was very easy to convince
Paul.

Paul was a World War 2
veteran, he was very

patriotic, he always flew his
flag.

Those type of people you can
convince that

"listen", just tell him.

"Paul, you can't tell anyone
else about this,

because it could get into the
wrong hands"

so immediately Paul became

a co-operating source

he held everything that he had
gotten

in secrecy.

Doty was feeding this man

all kinds of lies

about UFOs and aliens being
kept underneath

a mountain nearby, and so on
and so forth,

and Bennewitz, of course,

was believing all of this.

He had two films,

of an object flying,

one picture depicted an object
that

looked like it was flying out
of the mountain

and it looked like some kind of

saucer shaped object.

He immediately then though
that there

were UFOs coming out of Manzano.

The second film was of an object

that was something that was

experimental that the
government was doing.

When he filmed that, then again

the flag when up that

he just filmed a classified
project.

Paul made a presentation to
the Air Force officials,

on what he had been doing and

about what he had been
collecting.

He showed some of his film,

he showed some of his pictures,

he had a audio recorder that
was playing

the sounds that he had
collected from the base.

The highest ranking person in
the room

who was a Brigadier General said

"you have some very convincing
information Paul"

and that kind of set
everything in motion with.

Paul to let him think that,
yup, he does.

From the point he came in and

gave that meeting they decided

all his perceptions were going
to be directed

exactly the way the

intelligence organisations
wanted.

We briefed everybody

in the room.

So they knew what we were
doing, basically.

And so after the meeting there
was a number of

questions asked to him

"what do you want the Air
Force to do?"

and Paul says "I'd like a
grant to investigate."

"UFOs on the base" and a grant
to continue this

contact that he claimed he had

with some of these aliens

which... now that's a
different story!

At one point another agency
was conducting an

investigation and they set up
a surveillance

across the street from him and.

Paul's son contacted me and said

"leave my father alone, you
guys are across the"

street and you're bothering my
father,

he's getting to the point

"that he's being paranoid."

Well, I knew it wasn't us.

He said he saw people coming

in and out of the house and
looking from the

curtains and things like that
and as it turns out

the NSA had some people in
this house,

they were watching him and
actually

beaming messages straight
across the street

into his antenna set up.

He'd started picking up these
signals and the.

NSA was scared that anybody
could

figure that out.

They decided to just take
complete control of

what he was seeing and give
him exactly

what he thought he should be
getting.

They replaced his computer with

their own computer.

The computer had software that
would decode

the messages that he was
getting in the way

that they wanted him to see
them.

And if you look at the
transcript of it,

it seems like almost gibberish
but because

people want to pull out
content from a random

order it starts to make some
kind of sense.

They said that they were from
a planet with

no water and they were trying
to find a new

place to live and they wanted
to take over

the earth and that they can
only trust Paul.

They were going to have some
kind of

agreement with him but he said
you can't trust

anything they say these aliens
are evil and it

served to make him look silly
which was

exactly what they were trying
to do.

Paul actually thought

that these UFOs had to be
coming from

some other place.

So Paul on his own when up to
Archuleta Peak,

which is in Northern New
Mexico, around.

Dulce New Mexico and he did

his own investigation basically.

Dulce and the Archuleta Peak
area

has a superstition for many
years,

way way before we were ever
involved.

There were strange lights and
strange stories

about that area coming from the.

Indian tribe that lives up
there.

If somebody wanted to hide

something here it would be
pretty easy,

it's very remote.

It's supposedly the site of an
underground

alien base. That rumour got
started in the early

1980s because of what was told
to.

Paul Bennewitz by the Air Force.

Office of Special Investigation.

Paul was a pilot, and he had a

plane, and he flew around
those areas and

he saw things and he filmed

things up there that

again presented a problem for
us because

what he was filming up there
was actually a

secretive military
installation that was

training commandos.

So then we had to convince
Paul that what he

was seeing up there was again,
UFOs.

The Air Force actually put him

in a helicopter with Rick Doty
the first time

and flew him up to a place
above Dulce,

called the Archuleta Mesa and
before they

took him up there, they dumped

a bunch of props up there.

They flew him up there, flew
him over the Mesa

and said "you're right Paul,
look there's"

stuff here, there's some
evidence of

what's going on

"why don't you check this out
for us."

So I would go
with Paul up there

and we actually camped out
there a

couple of times and we
actually saw some

things that startled me, which
were fully

explained later, but one of
the things that was

kind of interesting were these
lights

coming out of the ground, but
the way the lights,

these beams, were coming out
of the

ground in a pulse kind of
manner, that it looked

like they were saucers flying
out of

these mountains, and I
actually saw this and

I was somewhat concerned that
maybe.

Paul had stumbled onto
something.

Paul was flying what he called
his missions

around Archuleta Mesa and would

send back fascinating letters,
five, six, seven,

eight pages long, hand written
with pencil

sketches of what he'd seen.

And finally he started sending
large format

eight by ten photographs taken
with his.

Hasselblad in which he'd say

"well, here's the black atomic
powered ship that

"crashed last week" and he'd
circle it, and, oh,

I'd look at that and, bless
his heart,

I couldn't see anything that

resembled a crashed anything.

Something actually did crash

near Dulce on the Mesa in the
late 1980s.

Bennewitz just happened to be
flying over it

and took pictures of it and so
the

disinformation campaign had to
be

ratcheted up even more.

The Air Force, they knew it
was something they

were testing up in this area
and that it

had gone off course and crashed.

Of course they told Paul
Bennewitz that it was

some sort of alien craft that
had been

given to the humans to use and
that they

had shot it out of the sky

as some sort of a lesson.

Agents would break into his
house,

to see what he had and at one
point he had

these pictures of whatever had
crashed up there

and they were very interested
in getting

these pictures, so they did.

From then on he went up and
just took pictures

of where it had crashed.

What probably crashed there

was some sort of unmanned
aerial vehicle

and now they're over in the
middle east,

remote controlled, killing
people in cars

as they drive across the desert.

But in 1985 they didn't really
want anybody to

have any knowledge of this
kind of thing.

They took great pains to
explain to him that it

was this atomic powered
aircraft that the

aliens had helped us with and
bring down that

laughter curtain again so that
people just

wouldn't pay attention.

They'd just think it was
another UFO nut.

Somebody gave him a satellite
picture

of the landing area.

In 83 he went up there with me
and the

chief of police for the
Jicarilla Apache tribe.

They had made a landing pad

and he took us right to the
spot.

They were giving him
disinformation,

some of it was true, some of
it wasn't, see.

I think that was the biggest
problem he had,

coping with, why this,

why not the other thing?

He thought that this was the
place

where the aliens were getting
together

to take over the world and he
wanted to trap

them all there, kill them all
in one fell swoop

and save the Earth.

By the mid eighties he was
getting to the point

where he had written all of
these

letters to congressmen,
senators, TV stations,

even President Regan saying
this is what's

going on the Air Force is
co-operating with me

these are the people who are
co-operating

with me and giving me this
information.

Earnest Edwards, Richard Doty,
all this

he would put there names in
these letters.

He'd get answers back saying

"we're not interested in the
UFO subject"

and there was this kind of

cognitive dissonance

here are people in the
government telling him

"yes you're right, this is
going on,

let's keep an eye on it"

and then elected officials and
other

people in the the media saying

"we don't know what you're
talking about,

this isn't very important"

and nobody seemed to care what
he was

talking about except the Air
Force.

So many people knew ultimately
about.

Paul Bennewitz and that sad,
strange, horrible

story that it got way out of
the realm

of just a cute flying saucer
story.

Paul was convinced that
everything

he was doing was UFO related.

I actually sat down with Paul
and told Paul

"listen Paul, I think you
ought to stop doing this"

I think you've gone as far as
you can go,

and this is a friend, this is
Richard Doty a

"friend" it wasn't Richard Doty
a Special Agent

with OSI talking to him, I said

"this is a friend talking to
you Paul"

because I became a friend with
him,

he was a very wonderful person

and I didn't want to see him
harmed and I said.

"Paul, stop it! Listen to your
son,"

listen to your wife, end it,
get rid of the

equipment, lock this stuff
away, go on with your

life, go back to your work at
your

business and stop this...

Paul listened to me and I
thought maybe he was

going to take my advice, but
he didn't,

he continued and continued and
continued and

at that point we ended the
investigation

we ended every involvement with.

Paul Bennewitz.

By 1988 things were so bad that

his family decided to take him
to a psychiatric

facility and see if they could
try and save his life.

He said that aliens would come
at night through

his wall and inject him with
something

that would make him get in his
car and drive out

into the desert and he didn't
remember

what he was doing or why he went.

The scary thing was there
actually were

injection marks on his arm.

This is a
friend talking to you...

Years later, I sat down with
Paul, at dinner and

told Paul, exactly, that
everything we did was a

sanctioned counter
intelligence operation

to convince him that what he
was seeing

was UFOs and that what we
didn't want him

to know was that he had tapped
into something

on the base, and we didn't
want him

to ever disclose that.

Paul looked at me and said

"you don't have to lie to me
Rick,

I know it UFOs related".

He was caught
right in the middle

of it and then he was used.

If it hadn't been for Paul
Bennewitz I would have

never known 70% of the stuff
that was going on.

What kind of stuff did you find

that would make you think that
there was

something underground there?

Well, the entrance to...

A big enough entrance to get

a truck or a plane or
something through?

Yes.

You saw this?

Uh-hum.

But it wasn't where Paul
said it was?

No.

Well, the first case of the
cattle mutilation in.

Dulce, it was June 14th 1974.

People do kill animals and
steal the meat,

and it's different, it was
different.

Why did they just take the
udder,

the lymph nodes and the tongue

at the base of the throat with
the tonsils?

And we're finding the evidence
at the mutilations,

gas masks that were made by the

military, radar chaff, and the
tranquillisers

they were using atropine,

they were injecting them with
atropine.

I was up front with the ranchers

they were losing cattle and

nobody was compensating them.

I wasn't hiding anything, I
never did.

I'm established as somebody
who is doing

all of this news and
documentary.

So I start getting newspapers,
people are saying.

"Linda, what is the answer?"

OK, this is what I'm going to
do next.

I'm going to get to the bottom

of this animal mutilation
mystery.

And finally in October of 79
Lou Girodo

who was the head of the
district attorneys

office in Trinidad says, with
our cameras running,

finally "well, investigators
and I"

have come to the conclusion
we're dealing with

"creatures not from this planet"

is the way he put it

which is in my film, A Strange
Harvest.

And said all the reasons why,
the orange lights

that he and a deputy had seen
go into the

ground, come out, split in
two, in pastures where

they had mutilated animals.

We did follow one and it stayed

there, it was hovering on top of

the cattle, Manuel Gomez's
cattle, and when

I was going to try and
intercept it myself it

flew over me. But this

looked like a saucer type,
yeah, aircraft.

Ah ha.

You could see lights in it
blinking.

Why do they put lights

if they're from outer space?

They don't need any guidance
with lights!

I was an analyst in the agency
responsible for

chemical weapons analysis so the

embassy would always give me a

security escort and bodyguard.

Special Forces guy came, and I
said.

'Hey, what do you know

about these crazy stories
about the helicopters

that are taking mutilated
cattle?'

'Oh he says, my real job,

I'm in a special group in New
Mexico.

We've been doing something
that is really,

really interesting' he said,
'it just blows

my mind, I just... we got these
helicopters

that I'm flying' he says

'these helicopters are all
fixed up.

First of all they got no
markings on' em.

Second of all they're really
fast.

Third, they're really quiet,
and they got

a lot of lights. We got red
lights, we got white

lights, we got strobe lights.'

I said 'What are you talking
about?'

He says, 'We pretend we're
UFO's...

What the hell is that?

Do you know
anything about this?

Where did all that information
come from?

Why do you listen to those
people, they lie?

It's like, yes but they talk.

And if they talk, once in a
while you're gonna

get a piece of something in
that huge pile

of crap that will actually
connect to what you

want, and if you don't let
them take you

somewhere like they did with
Paul, kind of

keep an even keel, I think
you're OK.

You just have to listen that's
the thing.

So are you saying that the.

Dulce base, or the Dulce
architecture,

let's call it, ah, exists or
doesn't exist?

Have you investigated the RAND
corporation's

involvement in tunnelling in
that area

in the 50's and 60's?

Oh yeah, yeah, I actually put

some of that in the book...

...construction of a nuclear

waste facility there...

Not waste, but they exploded an

atomic bomb underneath about
ten miles from.

Dulce to try and get gas out
of the ground.

Stupidest idea! They couldn't
use the gas

'cos it was radioactive.

New programs of the
Atomic Energy.

Commission and other agencies
are designed

to expand the usefulness of
nuclear energy.

Before work is begun on any of
these programs.

The government evaluates the
health and

safety factors, often for
several years.

Project Gasbuggy was an
underground nuclear

detonation that took place in

in Dulce, New Mexico.

It was an attempt to release
natural gas

reserves from the subterranean
environment

in a sort of early version of
what we

would now recognise as fracking.

Some people have suggested
that the cattle

mutilation program was
actually a covert

monitoring program for
assessing the radiation

leakage levels into the
environment,

into the ecosystem and into
the food chain.

Senator Harrison Schmitt had a

conference here in 1980, 'cos
the ranchers

were asking for help,

and I met Paul Bennewitz there.

He was taking a bunch of
pictures of the aircraft

coming out of the Kirkland area,

but we were watching the same
aircraft flying

in the Dulce area, see.
Everybody's looking at

these sophisticated aircraft
and kind of saying

'well they're the one's that are

mutilating the cattle.'

One agency was doing the
cattle mutilation,

but the people that were doing
the research

on the aircraft used the
cattle mutilations to test

their aircraft so that people
think

it was UFO's... and it helped

the cattle mutilation thing see!

It's a wonder they didn't crash

into each other, you know!

Would we use perception

to help shroud what we're
trying to protect?

Absolutely!

If you've got an aerial
platform that is highly

advanced and the public who
happens to

get a glimpse of the thing
from time to time,

if they're convinced that it's
from Venus

and there's no way it could be
our military,

well hey you know, that's
awesome!

Hell yes!

If I'm the agent running the
protection for that

particular program and that's
helping me

to cover something for years?

I might even feed the fire.

Doty and others would probably

defend their
counter-intelligence efforts

as being patriotic.

They are carrying out work
assigned by people

who have decided that there
must be a

policy of denial

in the interests of national
security.

They're working for my
government.

They're working in agencies of
the government

that is supposed to be
protecting

of the people by the people
for the people.

How did it all turn upside down?

At the core
there is something that

they want to keep people away
from.

A real truth.

I'm Richard Doty.

I'm here at the UFO congress
at Laughlin,

Nevada, as a private citizen,

just enjoying the sights and
sounds.

Disinformation is designed to
appeal

to the person that it's
operating on.

The more dramatic you can be
appealing to that

prejudice, the better you're
gonna get

your hooks into the person
you're trying to get.

In Paul Bennewitz's case, he
was taking about.

UFOs so if they wanted his
full and

undivided attention, they
would talk UFOs with

him which is exactly what they
did.

Bennewitz was filming really
highly strange craft.

Then counter-intel's job is to
come in and

muddy the waters and make him

look like a fool, and one of
the cover jobs...

it's been a cover story in the
U.S for a long time

tell the media, tell anybody
who will listen

that they're using UFOs to
cover up

advanced technology - when the
truth

is exactly the opposite of the
words!

Our perspective is that

the UFO phenomenon is
absolutely genuine...

Hah! In spades!

Yeah. However,

within that arena there have
been points at

which disinformation has
entered the

stream, you know, and there's
no...

From FDR on!

It became seen as necessary to
create an

active disinformation program
in the late 1970's

and early 1980's

and the reason for this is
twofold. One was

the American Freedom of
Information Act.

: "It's curtain time."

An ingenious printing elemet
that works faster

"than the eye can see. Watch it
in action."

Thousands of pages of

documents were released from
places like the.

CIA, the FBI, all the military
agencies.

Documents proving the lie that
agencies across

the board were interested and
were tracking

the UFO phenomenon.

During the late 1970's

a variety of leaks started to
occur.

Now they're just stories right?

But the problem is there were
many of them

and they seemed to have

a coherence about them.

Researchers at the time

were in a very optimistic mode.

I wouldn't say there were so
much giddy

as just hopeful, that if they
got the right leak,

or the right document, that
they just might be

able to smash the wall of
secrecy.

Then what happens?

Then we get entrants into the
field by individuals

who start leaking documents of
dubious

origin whose provenance was
basically

unknown, that caused now

twenty five years of dissension

in the research field.

And it's the same within the
mainstream media.

Serious media never in their
news coverage

seriously promoted the extra
terrestrial

hypothesis, what they did do
was move that

to the realm of entertainment.

Any time someone brings such
ideas up

seriously, what you find is
the serious media

says well, you've been watching

too many movies.

So in a sense you could argue
that the movies

are used to inoculate the public

against these truths.

So these demonstrably false
UFO stories

become inoculations.

When the doctor inoculates you
from a disease,

he gives you a little bit of
it, and then

your body's immune system
recovers, deals

with it and now you're kind of
immune to it.

Look at the UFO

conferences, where are they
held?

Usually in small dingy hotels
with rather limited

numbers of people participating.

I mean there has to

be a reason why it's
perpetuating.

You don't see conferences on
leprechauns, so

why do we still have
conferences on UFOs?

One of the keys to a
disinformation campaign

is to have a feedback loop

and you need people on the
inside to feed

back to you the results of the
operation.

Probably Doty's first success
in rounding up a

useful asset as they say in the

intelligence field, or a
useful idiot as they also

say in the intelligence field
was his

recruitment of a man named
William Moore.

Now William Moore I think very
significantly

was the co-author of the

first book about Roswell.

I was given the task of making

contact with Bill Moore and
basically finding

what he knew and who he knew.

Bill was a little reluctant to
disclose everything

to me, for obvious reasons.

Here I am a government agent
coming in and

introducing myself and

wanting to know what he knew.

But there's techniques that we
use,

that we're trained to use in
gaining that

person's confidence, and I use
those techniques

against Bill Moore and they
worked and.

Bill Moore took me into his
confidence

and we had a professional
relationship as far as

him providing us information
about the UFO

community and agreeing to say
things we

wanted said regarding the UFO
community

or within the UFO community.

The process of studying this
phenomenon

and the people involved with
it, of

assessing the claims and the
counter-claims

and of dealing with the
question of

how we as earthlings will react
to the

the discovery of a race of
extra terrestrial

visitors and how they will
react to us

all of this and more when

finally looked at in
perspective leads

us to the inescapable
recognition that in

studying the UFO phenomenon

we are at the same time

becoming more aware of

ourselves as individuals.

Moore was singled out

because he had achieved
considerable

celebrity within the UFO field
and a certain

authenticity that would
recommend him to

politicians and journalists,

and remember it's the

politicians and the
journalists who are the

ultimate target of all of this
disinformation.

I went to visit Bill, he had a
bad back,

he was lying flat on his back,

he couldn't move, he was in
traction

and I remember him very
dramatically

saying to me 'aliens do exist,
UFO's are real,

I know that now for a fact'.

Just seems kind of almost like
a bad

science fiction movie, but
that's kind of

what was going on at the time.

He was invested in maintaining
these contacts

that he had supposedly inside
the government.

At one point Bill Moore had
played me

an early tape recording of a
conversation he

had with Doty, and Moore was
telling me,

you know, this is a huge
breakthrough,

and this guy is like on the
inside and

he's gonna give a lot of stuff
away.

I just remember even back then
that I was

kind of suspicious that it
sounded a little too

good to be true, but I was
kind of curious as to

why somebody who supposedly
was in.

Air Force intelligence was
speaking so openly

about some of these incredible
things.

William Moore was using his

position as an executive of an
outfit that

was called the Aerial
Phenomena Research.

Organisation and in fact Moore

admitted that he paid off the
secretary

of that organisation to send
him reports at

once when they came in and

they went directly to Doty.

Bill didn't believe everything
I was telling him

and obviously he's a very
smart person

and a lot of the information I
was telling him

wasn't factual.

If you were a UFO researcher
and you were

offered documents that nobody
had ever seen,

that pointed the way to what
the government

might know about UFO's and in
exchange you

basically had to report on
what people were

thinking, what rumours were
making the

rounds, that's what he was
offered and in

exchange he was offered
something that

nobody else had gotten up to
that point

pure unadulterated information
that would

lead him to the centre of the
answer,

the answer to the question

you know, what does the
government

know and are there actually
some sort of

non-human intelligences

interacting with the human race.

Moore later was part of the

series of break-ins into the
Bennewitz house,

and the psychological warfare
program.

Again, self-admitted by Moore.

Moore was not working alone.

Others, I'm convinced went for
the same deal,

and the deal was very simple.

You co-operate with us, and,
we will give you

the information that the U.S
government has

deep down in those vaults.

Now, this is the Faustian
bargain that.

William Moore went for

and he came up short on it.

It became apparent to me that
my supplying

information to the government
through Doty

on the activities of Paul
Bennewitz, APRO,

and to a lesser extent,
several other

individuals was to be a part
of this equation.

I also discovered that
whatever it was that.

Bennewitz was involved with,
he was the

subject of considerable
interest on the part of

not one but several government
agencies,

and that they were actively
trying to defuse

him by pumping as much
dis-information

through him as he could
possibly absorb.

Being a very small part of
that process gave me

I thought something of an
advantage.

It became my intention to play
that advantage

for all the information I
could get out of it.

Bennewitz for his part...

Frankly I'm a little ashamed of

some people in this audience,
regardless of

what you believe what you hear
or not.

They had to stop the talk about

4 or 5 times just because of
all the yelling.

People got mad ran out of
there, I saw a woman

start crying and leave, people
kept saying

'where'd you get all that crap
from Bill'

and one guy said 'I'm gonna
get a fire-hose'

and ran out the back. Very
dramatic.

Bill's admission to working
with government

agents was the first
acknowledgement to

the degree which our
government would go

in an attempt to keep the
cover-up going, and

I think people were angry,
maybe not so much

at Bill, but at themselves for
their own

naiveté as allowing that to
happen,

and refusing to acknowledge
that they

could have been just as easily
duped,

it's scary to think, gee
somebody I trusted

might be playing me for the
fool.

Bill Moore I think probably
believed

what he was preaching.

I think he was one of these
people that wanted

to believe that he was one of
the chosen few

to spread this information,

to be the Moses of mythology,
UFO mythology.

Moore's book was well received

and in my opinion, well done
research,

but very troubling because the
thesis was that.

Roswell was a real spaceship
that crashed

and that the U.S government
has the parts.

I believe that he was singled
out precisely to

ultimately discredit him and
Roswell, to keep

the press and the politicians
off of Roswell.

July 8th 1947.

The army air force has
announced that a

flying disk has been found and
is now in the

possession of the army.

Army officers say the missile
found sometime

last week has been inspected
at Roswell,

New Mexico and sent to Wright
Field, Ohio

for further inspection.

The key thing to remember

about the alleged crash of a
UFO at Roswell

in 1947 is that by the time of
Paul Bennewitz's

involvement in the UFO field
it had been entirely

forgotten by the UFO
community, and it was

only with the publication in
1980 of the.

Roswell Incident by William
Moore

and Charles Berlitz that the
elements of

the Roswell story, the crashed
spacecraft,

the recovered alien bodies,
the pact between

the American government and the

extra-terrestrials to back
engineer

their technology. All of these
things have

eventually become the core
story of the.

American UFO mythology.

Their craft crashed somewhere
after coming all

these 50 light years, they
crashed

and then they sent another one
that crashed

again, and sent another one
that crashed.

About nine crashes in the
South West

in the late 40's and that
would indicate

to me or at least suggest to
me that we were

testing something that was
crashing.

Roswell happened.

Two crashes, one in Roswell
and one west.

They didn't find the craft for
a couple of years,

it was all one crash but it
took them a

couple of years to find the
second crash site.

Things are getting weird man.

Now Doty played a massive role
in the

perpetuation of the Roswell
myth, many of the

ideas prominent in the UFO
subculture for

two decades and it was
completely avoided.

Rick Doty is certainly a
fascinating character

and clearly a trickster.

A man who probably has

trouble figuring out whether
he's lying

or not these days.

It would not surprise me

if people were selected to sow
disinformation.

It would also not surprise me
if some of the

people were selected because
they were not

very bright, they lacked
certain critical

judgment but were very
energetic in putting

out certain messages, and I do
often think that

some of the people in the
government

agencies who have been
involved in the.

UFO field were kind of pushed
or nudged

in that direction.

They'd just go into the field
and

muck it up automatically by
themselves

without any external controls.

Rick is not the man you're
after, it's the

person in the control position

that's important here. In my
opinion

he was just simply a pawn in a

much larger game. Just as I was.

What we are hearing today
about malevolent

aliens, underground bases,
secret treaties

with the US government, has
its roots

firmly planted in the
Bennewitz affair.

The entire story of a secret
treaty between

the US government and the
aliens, of

exchanges of technology
between us

and the aliens, of battles
between the aliens

and American armed forces, and
of aliens

having implanted hundreds of
thousands,

if not millions, of human
beings for the

purpose of taking over the
world, and

using us as cattle, or slaves,
came about as a

result of the disinformation
process.

I know, because I was in a
position to observe

much of this process as it
unfolded, and

I was providing regular
reports on its

effectiveness to some of the
very people

who were doing it to Paul.

It wasn't a whole lot that we
did.

It was just a simple, really,
really, simple,

nod and statement to Paul that
what he was

seeing was probably UFOs.

It's generally assumed that
the counter

intelligence operation
conducted against.

Paul Bennewitz was designed to
throw him off

the scent of some kind of
classified

experimental technology that he
was

accidentally filming over
Kirtland AFB

but when you stop to think

about it this doesn't make a
whole lot of sense.

If the Kirtland base personnel
really had wanted

him to stop his investigations
they

could have ordered him to do so

instead they encouraged him to
continue his

research and indeed
facilitated his growing

delusions about an
extra-terrestrial invasion.

What this suggests is that
rather than a

campaign directed against Paul
Bennewitz

this was an information war on
the.

American UFO community.

And there are a number of
reasons why.

Air Force Intelligence might
have wanted to use.

Bennewitz as a conduit for
disinformation.

The ufologists were constantly
seeking

evidence for the
extra-terrestrial conspiracy

and the UFO cover-up. They were
digging

through documents, they were
hanging

around secret air bases and
quite likely

stumbling upon genuine military
secrets.

And a more serious possibility
is that.

Soviet agents may have been
infiltrating the.

UFO field in order to extract
this kind of

information about new
technologies.

I think it's no coincidence
that the timing

of the operation against Paul
Bennewitz

dovetails with the development
of the.

Stealth programme, and at the
time this was

the absolute pinnacle of
global aviation

technology and that's exactly
the sort of thing

that Soviet agents would be
looking for.

If you guys are doing a
film... I...

I do not want to do an
interview in a film

in which you're going to try
to communicate

that there's nothing to UFOs
than

advance technologies being
used to cover...

I mean... No No.

Then all you're
doing is playing

into the government's hands...

that's absolutely what they
want people to do...

No...

That's absolutely not what
we're doing.

People trying to put out

documentaries about UFOs
seemed to be

teased over and over and have
the rug pulled

out from under them at the
last minute.

In the late '70s a rumour
started circulating that

there was a film of a UFO
landing at.

Holloman Air Force Base, in
New Mexico.

And apparently a UFO came and
landed at the

air force base, on the tarmac,
a group of

people went up to meet him,
there was a sort of

exchange of information

the alien got back in his ship
and took off.

I have wondered,

whether that film - I think as
many people

have wondered - that film was an

abortive attempt at some kind
of disclosure.

We began with an invitation
and met with.

Paul Shardle, who was head of
security for the.

Depository, where all the
films by the military

are sent, out at Norton.

We talked about possible
programmes such

as three-dimensional moving
holography,

atomic fission, a dog
programme where they

trained Shepherds to do
reconnaissance,

and a lot of laser work at
Wright Patterson.

Then he said: "I want you to
come with me"

into this studio."

We went into a studio, which
was a clean room.

He said: "What would you think
if we told you"

that in the early '70s there
was a landing

of an alien craft at Holloman
Air Force Base,

and our TDY, temporary duty
guys, had

"filmed it?" And I was just
sort of scratching my

head thinking, UFOS?!

What are we talking about?

So he said: "Look, if you're
interested",

bury that under the other
projects, as UFO

"sends up a red flag." He said.

"If you're interested, go talk
to Captain"

somebody, and he'll start a
liaison with

"the Pentagon." Which we did.

I was told that there was
footage

and that was sort of like a
carrot.

Where you'll be provided with
a film

that we have, 900 feet of
Ektachrome,

and off we began our project.

We had a legal contract with
the Pentagon

and an agreement on everything
that we were

gonna be doing and their total
co-operation.

They fulfilled every one of
our requests,

they vetted our information,
gave sanction to it,

they really did not influence
the content at all,

I was quite surprised.

Even the people at Holloman
did not say

"what are you doing?

What are you talking about?"

They seemed to confirm that

something had happened.

And the film was not forthcoming

but I knew where it was and
what it was and

was told by one of the people
we worked with

that it was confiscated at the
last minute

because it didn't seem
appropriate.

So we ended up having to go to
animation.

But everything else was
documented

as I recall it happening.

It was a daylight shot of a
light ascending

on Holloman Air Force Base.

And with that little clip,
that's all that I tell you

it's genuine.

A landing of a craft at
Holloman...

it was... film... very
brief... that's all...

you know... I can tell you
it's genuine...

Just that snippet that you saw?

Just a light...

coming down from above...

it was really not that
distinguishable

it was just among other footage,

that's all I can tell you...

And just to say on
camera that you

never saw the Holloman Landing
footage?

Not really...

Oh... OK!

Can you elaborate?

Can we just

wait for that car?

Saved by the car!

I'm trying to think how to
answer that.

I knew what the film was
about, all the details.

But I never saw a real
projected version.

You saw a still of it?

Yes.

What is your bottom line?

Beginning, middle and end?

Our bottom line is that

there is a UFO phenomenon that's

genuine and needs to be
studied, and seriously

and one of the things that
makes that

difficult is the muddying of
the waters by

people like Rick Doty, Walter
Bosley and

others who are working for

who ever else they're working
for,

CIA, NSA, and they are making
the work of

people like yourself, and us,
and others who

want to understand what's
really going on

very, very difficult.

If you believe that it's

true then you have to buy in

to this phantasmagorical,
conspiratorial, bizarre,

nonsensical, ridiculous story,
and

when I've sat down with Rick,
his response to

me is, you know, it's really
all true.

Rick's great strength is

that he's a wonderful
storyteller.

He's a very friendly guy,

he builds relationships easily.

My immediate instinct is to
trust him.

I think it's very easy

to mislead people in the UFO
community.

You get them going down a
certain trail..

You give them certain leads
and you just

watch people chase their tails
over

and over again, looking for
the truth.

I was living and working in
New York when.

Linda Howe actually came to
stay with me for

a few days and it was right in
the midst of her

working on this HBO project.

Linda was sort of, I believe,
on the track

at the time, of thinking that
this was the

film that was gonna again
expose everything,

and I believe she was in touch
with Doty at

the time, in fact I think she
had even gone

to see him face to face.

And that was very curious to
me because

I'd known about this guy
through Bill, you know,

Bill Moore, and I thought, hmm,

now he's sort of hooking Linda
in the same way.

Doty said that he has names of
people

who are witnesses. A security
guard has a gun

melted in his hand, there's a
disc, beings.

I want to investigate that
story.

The original plan with Linda
Howe was to

obtain as much information as
she knew,

and to find out what she was
going to air

in this documentary for HBO

and whether we wanted it aired
or not.

So I drove her out to
Kirtland, to the OSI office.

I took her into a special room,

I told her it was the
Commander's office,

which wasn't really,
necessarily true...

The first thing that shifted
this from what I

thought was going to be a five
minute meeting

get these names, phone numbers

and addresses and go on -

I had already set up other
things to do...

"That documentary that you did

broadsided the government."

"How do you mean?"

"Nobody ever expected that a
credible journalist

would ever take on the animal
mutilation story."

It was like something was
shifting in the air...

Where is this going?

What is happening here?

He never gave me a list of names

or phone numbers. Instead, he
said.

"My superiors have asked me to

show you something."

Pulled out this Manila envelope,

pulled out these pages

and as he's handing them to
me, he says.

"You can read these but you
cannot take notes."

You can ask me questions

but I want you to move from
that chair

you are sitting in to that
chair...

Everything that was done there
was being

filmed by other agents in
another room

and there was a two way mirror.

And I'm looking at the top
page, and it's all caps.

Briefing Paper for the President

of the United States of America

on Unidentified Aerial Vehicles.

And I'm trying to read what is
the most

remarkable series of letters
and words that has

probably ever been handed to me

because this was new, I was
innocent.

And it started out about all
of these places

in the United States that the
government had

retrieved discs that were
identified as

extra-terrestrial.

I knew some names, like Roswell.

There was Aztec, Magdelena,
South of Laredo,

down in Arizona.

There were... my mind was kind
of reeling at

how many places this is
saying, because

all of us had only heard of
Roswell, really.

And eventually it came to
paragraphs that are

as indelibly emblazed on my
mind sitting

here today as they were then.

And the one that is probably

worth sharing from all of this.

"These extra-terrestrials
manipulated DNA"

in already evolved primates to
create

"homo sapiens."

And I remember reading that
sentence

over several times, trying to
absorb

the implication of its meaning.

Because if homo sapiens is a
genetically

constructed species by
extra-terrestrials,

we are then, by definition,

a planet of six and a half
billion androids.

If we are androids,

what purpose are we serving?

All of that hit me, reading
that sentence.

Then, on the last page

paragraph, paragraph,
paragraph, paragraph.

PROJECT GARNET, all caps.

All questions and mysteries
about the

evolution of homo sapiens on
this planet

have been answered and this
project is closed.

The documents that I showed her

came from our special office
in Washington,

with the operational plan and

what I was supposed to do.

And the plans to show her these.

And I'd read them, and I knew

what was in them

and I realised that some of

the information contained in
them was real.

But then I realised that you
have to give

some real information in order

for a person to think you're
credible.

So I knew what was in there

and I gave them to her

and it was sanctioned.

I did what I was told to do.

When you look back at it

they must have had meetings
about.

"How do we stop"

a persistent and dogged reporter

who has already demonstrated
that

she's going to go after a

really, really difficult
subject.

"How do we stop her?"

When you look back

it all makes sense.

She wanted me to tell her things

that I couldn't tell her

and at one point she

went public with my name

and she did what Paul Bennewitz

and Bill Moore didn't do

and she publicised the fact

that she was deceived

by a government agency,

namely OSI

and although there were many
other

people involved with that
operation

she named my name

and so I became a public figure.

We actually played a trick on
Linda

that, er, kind of paid her
back so to speak.

Not anything that harmed her
in any way

or anything like that.

We kind of planted something

that she ran with which wasn't
factual

and I think she realised that

maybe she should keep her
mouth shut

after that.

The forged documents

shown to Linda Moulton Howe

by Richard Doty would form the
basis of the.

Majestic 12 papers

which expanded upon the story
of the.

Roswell UFO crash and provided

the foundations for the future

mythology in America.

And over three decades later

these documents are still
dividing

the international UFO community.

Before it had always been
inferred

that a cover-up was underway.

There was talk about who was
involved

and so forth, but there was
never

any paperwork.

Here's the paperwork.

A package showed up at the
home of.

Jamie Shandera, who was Bill's

sort of writing and research
partner.

What it contained was a
canister of 35mm film

they developed it, and what
was on it was

photographs of this document,
saying that there

was a group that had been
controlling UFO

information, how it was
released in public

and how the government should
deal with it.

Regarding the MJ-12 documents
that were

released to Jamie Shandera and
Bill Moore,

I had absolutely nothing to do
with that.

The document could be real,
and because

of the nature of it, it made a
perfect

perception management device.

People have to realise that
these things may

not be to cover up the truth
about flying saucers

it may be more to gather
information

about how the public responds

to manipulation.

When I print off the sum total
of

all those documents - you get
a stack

about this thick

when you read them through

as one day I decided this is
what

I am going to do,

it's very impressive.

To have faked it would have
required a team,

a high level team, of very
very expert individuals

who know everything about
document creation,

science and technology in the
1940s and '50s

and a whole bunch of other
things.

I looked at them, and
initially I thought

they were good forgeries, but
over time

my opinion of their quality
has gone down hill.

The use of a zero in front of
a date,

the use of an extraneous comma

the obviously photocopied
signature

they just keep getting worse
and worse.

If they were faked, the only
thing that

one can say is, the UFO topic
was considered

important enough by these
people to create

the most elaborate,
incredible, detailed

series of papers, and one
would have to ask

if they're faked.

Why?

There were some investigations
conducted

by FBI, OSI, regarding the
MJ12 documents,

extensive investigations, just
to determine

whether these things were
legitimate

whether they contained
classified

information and then who
released them.

I was interviewed as a suspect

did I do these?

It was proven that I didn't do
'em. But

somebody outside the government
created it

and in that particular instance

I don't know if the government

would prosecute them.

Doing that would lend credence
to the

document and then they would
have to

disclose the information

and so the best thing to do is
just say...

we did an investigation

and not tell anyone what the
outcome was.

I like to think of UFOs

as weapons of mass deception,
and

the role of the intelligence
organisations

and the military, in
propagating UFO

mythology, as somewhat analogous

to what evolutionary
biologists call

a punctuated equilibrium.

The UFO mythology develops of
its own accord

and the Mirage Men will just
drop a new

piece of data, a new meme,
some new faked

documents into the mix as and
when it is

expedient for them to do so.

And so there's no real need
for a sustained.

UFO deception campaign because
the folklore

is just perfectly capable of
sustaining itself.

The US government had a once
secret

programme in which 12 astronauts

were sent to an alien home
world, Serpo

thirty eight point four light
years away

from the years 1965 to 1978.

When the returning astronauts
came back

I believe there were seven,
that report was

finalised into a report called.

Project Serpo in 1980.

Rumours about this kind of
thing had been

flying around since the 1960s
or '70s,

so it's got some kind of
historical provenance.

In November of 2005.

Project Serpo was sent to my
UFO thread list

I received an email from someone

he requested to be anonymous.

When I first read that
bombshell email

it was far different from
anything

I'd ever received

and even though it was a
version that was

different from what I was
familiar with

it had the ring of truth.

Someone within the government
would have

to be co-operating because I
can tell you

that a lot of information

not all of the particular
details,

but a lot of the information
is factual

I believe it is a
disinformation campaign

to lead people astray.

That said, a good
disinformation campaign

a good perception management
campaign

always includes nuggets of fact
and truth

and some of those nuggets of
facts

and truth should be, if you're
going to do it

effectively, should be some of
the more

extreme facts or truths.

They brought back thousands of
soil samples

samples from the Eben
civilisation, and I

believe all these artefacts
are now ensconced

at Bolling Air Force Base.

And photographs too.

There's always a possibility
that the Serpo story

was created for disinformation
to present

to the Soviets back during the
Cold War

and somebody stumbled on to it.

There's always that possibility,

but I don't think so.

It's not a professional job.

Myself and three others were
working as

a research team looking into
the Serpo story.

We really wanted to get to the
bottom

of Rick's involvement in it.

People within the UFO community

immediately said.

'Hey, is Richard Doty involved
in this?

Did Richard Doty do this?'

I never had anything to do

with the Serpo story.

We were adamant at this time
that Rick Doty

was the person sending the
information.

But we didn't have any proof
and the only way

we could get that proof was if
we could see

an actual copy of the original
emails

that the anonymous source

had been sending Victor.

Unless Rick Doty is one the
greatest novelists

and writers of the 21st century,

it's not him.

We came up with a plan.

We'll use the same name and
just contact.

Victor and let him think his
anonymous

source was back in touch with
him.

We asked Victor to send us
copies of the emails

that we, allegedly, had sent
him which meant

we could look at the headers
of these emails

to determine where they
actually came from.

And it was from looking at
those headers

and having emails from Rick
Doty to compare

against, that it was indeed
Rick Doty's.

IP address on the Request
Anonymous emails,

and, as it turned out later,
he was also

several other people in the
story.

All contacting Victor and
Victor thinking

he's been contacted by a
multitude of different

people when in fact it was all
one person

it was all Rick Doty.

I didn't create it, I didn't,
err, conspire with

anyone else to create it.

It was created by somebody
else and,

those people, I don't know.

How do we ever know

what we know?

Apart from Victor Martinez who
really

started this thing off

I'm the only name who's known.

We've got this anonymous
storyteller

round this giant camp fire
who's entertaining us

with this incredible tale, and
we're sitting here

with bright eyes with the
flickering flames

thinking 'wow, tell us some
more'.

The idea of disinformation is
that

it's meant to be believed.

With Serpo, the first response
is

'well this is fascinating, but
it's ridiculous.'

Of course there's an aspect of
me that

wants to believe this
wonderful story.

I had no idea where this would
be leading...

Well when I first met Bill Ryan

at the Loughlin conference in

he presented himself as
someone being

given information to reveal to
the public

he didn't quite know why but
thought

it was very important.

What's strange about the Serpo
thing and.

Richard Doty was that he
denied, you know,

continually and vociferously
that he had

anything to do with it, yet he
came to the.

Loughlin UFO convention to see
what was

going on there, to hear Bill
Ryan talk and

announce this to the world in
person rather

than just on the radio and
basically had his

hands in a lot of things that
were going on

or at least looked like

an interested bystander.

Why should he be interested in
this silly story?

Wonderful question.

We don't know whether Anonymous

got this from the movie or
whether.

Spielberg had the tip-off that
this was one of the

ways, as many people in this
community

suspect, over the years, the
public

have been gradually
acclimatized to the

possibility of this contact

with an extra-terrestrial race

by seeding little parts of the
truth here

and there in movies is the
best way to get

ideas through to the general
population.

This might have been

one of the ways of doing it.

I think the information should
be

brought out to the public.

Let the public decide

whether this is real or not.

Whether you think

the information is real or
not, or whatever

the proportion of that might be
the case

this is a government operation.

If it's a government operation

these guys wouldn't be doing
their job

if they weren't following me

every step of the way.

Ever since the middle of
November

I've been assuming that I'm
being monitored.

If they're not doing that

they're not doing their job.

And it's like I'm one part of
a team but

I don't even know who

the other team members are.

And I have to assume that

I'm being bugged.

I mean, this may be paranoid but

whatever's going on, it's
happening at a

government level, and
therefore everything

I do is being watched.

I have to assume I'm being
tested.

You know the whole Bill Moore
stuff?

Yeah, yeah. No absolutely.

I wasn't around then

but if they were hanging
around...

where I did... to see

whether he would make a good
spook...

just to see whether he was

willing to obey orders...

I have to assume that's

there's something more at stake.

You see, what I...

You also

need to have a really good
bullshit detector.

Yes I know.

Since 1985 I've talked to 18

people at the cabinet level or
above

including 4 presidents.

About a third of them have
said 'It's true',

about a third have said 'I
heard it,

and I think it's true' and about

a third of them have said.

'I don't have a clue.

I do think though, Doctor Green,

that this important for you to
investigate.'

Turn it off for a minute.

The trouble with the whole UFO
thing

is there are so many people
who make up.

BS stories that no one can
check.

Somebody can step forward and
say.

'I'll tell you what's going on
in UFOs', and they

can say 'I've briefed the
President',

'I've done this, I know what's
going on'.

I don't know... I think there's

too much BS in that field.

Part of the problem that UFOs
created was

that there were people within
government

within the air force, within
the CIA, who

really believed that flying
saucers existed.

And because they had stature

because they had rank

their opinion was considered
proof.

Unless we understand

and work effectively for the
principles

on which our American way of
life

is founded the structure will
crumble.

Well, before going to Norton
Air Force Base,

going into a clean room and
being told we

had a landing by someone who
seemed to be

respectable, his name was all
over the wall as

head of security, and his boss
and everything

agreeing... I didn't believe
it then, but

then when confronted with the
information

I now realise after working with

intelligence people that it's
a reality.

And they stand behind the idea
that

they don't disbelieve it's
just so far it's not

proven to be a threat to our
national security

and that's the way they got
out from under it.

In the intelligence community
there are

definitely people who are
interested in

extraordinary phenomena,
particularly UFOs

definitely believers in there,
because you

don't work in that profession

and it's not just a profession

it's a world unto itself

without learning some things.

How many pictures do you need

how many eye witnesses,

how do you study something
that controls,

possibly, even this programme?

What is known of the truth of
them

these other beings?

What if the truth is bad?
Could be.

What if we're their farm
animals?

What if they eat us psychically?

Yeah, I don't know. There's a
lot of possibilities

there that are not good.

I think we are surfing on the
wave of a huge

adventure of the opportunity
of humankind

rolling into a totally new era

and that wave might break one
of these days.

Even the Vatican recently has
come out in

preparation saying 'Hey,
listen, you know if

there is anybody out there,
they're all.

God's creations and they're
our brothers and

sisters really.' I mean, what a
set-up

that is for what might be
coming next.

We're really a by-product of

extra-terrestrial intervention.

We're really - I mean, this is
my view

that we're... we've been
genetically altered by,

maybe not one, maybe perhaps
several

extra-terrestrial races.

The government obviously
doesn't want to

tell us, otherwise they'd
disclose

everything they knew.

And the most important players,

the aliens, don't want
disclosure

because they could disclose
any time.

I mean, they control most of
the cards.

I don't have any files, any
photographs,

anything to show you, I just
have a lot of

personal research, I have my
professional

experiences and I have the
bona fides, the

tested bona fides of the sources

and I have my intuition.

And those things all fit
together

and you kind of get a picture.

There is a planet, that orbits
Sirius

the Dog Star system, they are
human

they are very much interested
in us

and they have been key to our
survival

and they are capable of coming
here

certainly others have come here.

Um, now... could that be part
of disinformation?

Absolutely.

I read things even today that
we fed to.

Paul Bennewitz or to Linda
Howe or to.

Bill Moore that I fed to them.

And I see that today and it's
surprising that

that stuff's still there but
it just shows

we were a professional
organisation

and we did our job

and that information is still
out there.

People whose job it was to
make the subject

look ridiculous over the last
50 or 60

years have done a very good job.

I don't know where they're
from, I don't know.

I don't know where they're from.

I know that they're not, like,

from Detroit, you know.

That's as far as I can take it.

So again, when somebody starts
saying

'well here's who they are',

'here's why they're here',

they lose me almost immediately.

I was selected to participate
in a special

access programme within the

counter intelligence community.

My supervisor selected me

and said 'you're going to be
briefed

into a programme and you're
going to be

responsible for investigating
everything

associated with this programme'.

The first part of the briefing
dealt with

how the United States Air
Force were countering

unauthorised disclosure of
technology to the

public by using the UFO
phenomena

as a cover.

And then the second part of
the briefing was

where we were actually shown
and briefed

about the United States
government

involvement with
extra-terrestrials since the

late 1940s, which was obviously
the most

interesting part of the
briefing.

Well they showed us a lot of
things.

They showed us a film which
was late 40s or

early 50s film of a recovery
operation which

they talked about as being in
Roswell.

They showed crash debris, they
showed

extra-terrestrial bodies

and then there was also a
briefing showing a

live alien sitting in a room
talking to people.

And then the narrator of this
film talked about

the continuation of a
connection between the.

United States government and

extra-terrestrial civilizations.

After viewing this I was not
sure if it was real,

if it was... they presented it
to us for

some reason, maybe some kind of

psychological conditioning, I
don't think

I initially believed any of it.

But after the film was over
with and the.

Air Force Colonel in uniform
then started

talking about the operation,
the programme

how the United States
government, and it was

always the United States
government, it wasn't.

Air Force or Army it was the
United States

government, how they
progressed from

the early days, meaning the
crash retrieval

operations in the late 40s
until now

which was the late 70s.

And then the more he spoke,
the more I

realised that what I saw was
real.

I mean this guy wouldn't be
sitting here

standing here talking to us
with the people in

the room briefing into this
high-level

programme if it was a hoax.

A fractured hall of mirrors
with a quicksand

floor that nobody knows exactly
what the

truths are and everybody has
found themselves

completely suspicious of the
motives of any

human being because
counter-intelligence

in England and the United
States and a lot of

other countries have worked
overtime to

misinform and to tell the
public and

the media there is nothing to

the UFO phenomenon.

It's a lie - I have no
question about it -

and my work is to try to shed
some light on

what could be so threatening
out of

some other intelligence from
some

other part of the universe or

it's been here for two billion
years

and it's not extra-terrestrial
but we're

the new ones on the block.

What is it that is considered
so threatening

that governments will kill
people

to keep it silent?

They can't come forth and say

'yeah, OK, we had contact in
1947,

all this is real'.

What would that do?

That would open up the
Pandora's Box,

because there would be
millions and millions

and millions of people asking
questions

that somebody has to answer.

The easiest thing for the
government to do

is just to say 'no comment' or

'no, it I didn't happen'.

But there are so many people,
so many people

within the government that
have come forth

with information saying 'it
did happen',

'it's real', and the reason
I'm doing it

is because I asked the
government

a long time ago

'hey what am I supposed to say?'

And they're going to say

'you stick to the fact it's
not real'.

But when the government tried
to discredit me

on something then I went to
them and said.

'Listen, you're telling
everybody it's not real

and I know it's real, and you
know it's

real and all these other
people know it's real

so I'm going to tell the public

what I know about it'.

And the government basically
said

'do what you gotta do'.

Let's take one

step at a time.

You're looking at Richard Doty,

and by looking at him, you're
taking a

glimpse into a whole machine

that now has a life of its own.

Well, I was a young man
and I'd heard

about UFOs, but you know I
didn't believe

it was even possible to a have
a UFO

but then I went... to an Air
Force Base,

an Air Force Base they took me
aside and said,

'You know what?

Guess what? We have an alien
among us'.

And I said, 'You got to be
kidding.'

And they said 'Would we kid
anybody? No!'

Up on the Air Force Base, up
on the Air Force.

Base, and now I stand before you

saying that I am a true
believer in UFOs.

Believer in UFOs!

UFOs are real indeed!

That is so dumb!

I don't even make any sense.