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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,011 --> 00:00:12,611 ♪♪ 2 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,979 Bianchi: There may have been another killing or two. 3 00:00:16,081 --> 00:00:17,621 [Door creaks] 4 00:00:17,681 --> 00:00:21,181 It's something that happened, but it's not there all the time. 5 00:00:21,282 --> 00:00:22,422 [Woman screams] 6 00:00:22,482 --> 00:00:25,482 It's just like a bad dream. 7 00:00:25,483 --> 00:00:28,483 And no disrespect for the girls, 8 00:00:28,483 --> 00:00:30,583 dead people tell no tales. 9 00:00:30,684 --> 00:00:32,624 [Woman screaming] 10 00:00:32,684 --> 00:00:53,094 ♪♪ 11 00:00:53,190 --> 00:00:55,090 Welcome to "Very Scary People." 12 00:00:55,191 --> 00:00:56,521 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 13 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:59,990 For four months in 1977 and 1978, 14 00:00:59,992 --> 00:01:04,332 Los Angeles was terrorized by a series of sadistic killings. 15 00:01:04,427 --> 00:01:06,827 The victims, all women, were tortured, 16 00:01:06,894 --> 00:01:10,034 then humiliated in death as their nude bodies 17 00:01:10,095 --> 00:01:11,995 were displayed on hillsides. 18 00:01:12,095 --> 00:01:15,425 The press dubbed the murders the Hillside Stranglings. 19 00:01:15,529 --> 00:01:19,599 In February 1978, the killings suddenly stopped. 20 00:01:19,596 --> 00:01:22,496 1,200 miles away in Bellingham, Washington, 21 00:01:22,497 --> 00:01:24,697 a young father named Kenneth Bianchi 22 00:01:24,697 --> 00:01:27,697 was charged with the murders of two college students. 23 00:01:27,698 --> 00:01:29,298 The women were strangled. 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,900 Could Bianchi be connected to the killings in Los Angeles? 25 00:01:32,901 --> 00:01:36,431 This is Part 2 of "The Hillside Stranglers." 26 00:01:36,535 --> 00:01:51,435 ♪♪ 27 00:01:51,504 --> 00:01:53,314 Davis: Dolores Cepeda and Sonja Johnson, 28 00:01:53,406 --> 00:01:55,006 12 and 14-year old girls, 29 00:01:55,006 --> 00:01:57,906 spent the day shopping in East L.A. 30 00:01:57,907 --> 00:02:00,907 Renner: They caught the bus to come back, 31 00:02:00,908 --> 00:02:08,438 and what they didn't know is that they were being hunted. 32 00:02:08,508 --> 00:02:13,438 They were motioned over to this car by these two guys. 33 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:14,810 One of them badges them and he says, 34 00:02:14,811 --> 00:02:17,211 "You shouldn't be out here. It's not safe. 35 00:02:17,312 --> 00:02:20,112 We're from the police. We'll take you home." 36 00:02:20,213 --> 00:02:22,653 So they get in the car. 37 00:02:24,547 --> 00:02:29,747 Dolores and Sonja weren't in the habit of not returning home, 38 00:02:29,815 --> 00:02:31,705 and so when they didn't show up, 39 00:02:31,715 --> 00:02:34,215 their families are really concerned. 40 00:02:34,316 --> 00:02:37,446 Everyone's looking for these two missing girls, 41 00:02:37,550 --> 00:02:40,750 and of course, as the hours tick by 42 00:02:40,818 --> 00:02:42,548 and then a couple of days roll by, 43 00:02:42,618 --> 00:02:44,148 the families may not know it, 44 00:02:44,219 --> 00:02:47,419 but the police know that the outcome's likely not to be good. 45 00:02:47,419 --> 00:02:51,449 ♪♪ 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,150 De Reyes: A 9-year-old boy was rummaging 47 00:02:53,221 --> 00:02:56,261 through a trash dump near Dodger Stadium. 48 00:02:56,322 --> 00:03:02,222 Renner: He walks up to what he thinks are mannequins, and they're not. 49 00:03:02,223 --> 00:03:05,223 It's Dolores and Sonja. 50 00:03:05,324 --> 00:03:08,064 They were victims number four and number five. 51 00:03:08,125 --> 00:03:12,725 ♪♪ 52 00:03:12,826 --> 00:03:15,726 Davis: The body of Kristina Weckler was found. 53 00:03:15,827 --> 00:03:16,957 She was an art student. 54 00:03:17,027 --> 00:03:19,627 She had a huge future in front of her. 55 00:03:19,627 --> 00:03:23,257 Renner: There were marks on her arms 56 00:03:23,329 --> 00:03:27,129 that were consistent with needle marks. 57 00:03:27,230 --> 00:03:29,460 Davis: She was injected with a substance 58 00:03:29,563 --> 00:03:32,033 usually used to clean windows, 59 00:03:32,031 --> 00:03:37,331 which caused her to go into violent convulsions. 60 00:03:37,332 --> 00:03:41,732 She was tortured. 61 00:03:41,833 --> 00:03:45,473 She was gassed before she was finally killed. 62 00:03:45,533 --> 00:03:47,333 ♪♪ 63 00:03:47,335 --> 00:03:51,065 It became clear that there was a serial killer on the loose. 64 00:03:51,136 --> 00:03:52,726 Meredith: They had been strangled. 65 00:03:52,735 --> 00:03:54,765 Martin: Some had been sexually assaulted. 66 00:03:54,837 --> 00:04:00,237 Their bodies were dumped largely in public places. 67 00:04:00,238 --> 00:04:03,438 Davis: Who will be the next victim? Where will they be found? 68 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:05,839 Will it be someone I know? 69 00:04:05,940 --> 00:04:09,240 News people came up with a scary moniker, 70 00:04:09,241 --> 00:04:10,671 the Hillside Strangler. 71 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:18,980 ♪♪ 72 00:04:19,043 --> 00:04:23,083 Davis: Serial killers are almost always one figure. 73 00:04:23,144 --> 00:04:26,144 One thing that threw all of us off is, 74 00:04:26,144 --> 00:04:30,654 a pair of serial killers is almost unheard of. 75 00:04:30,745 --> 00:04:31,975 A theory circulated 76 00:04:32,046 --> 00:04:33,976 that the killers might be in law enforcement. 77 00:04:34,047 --> 00:04:37,947 Martin: There was statements badges had been flashed. 78 00:04:37,948 --> 00:04:41,348 They were either imposters posing as police officers, 79 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:42,748 or they were police officers. 80 00:04:42,849 --> 00:04:44,449 [Sirens wail] 81 00:04:44,449 --> 00:04:47,949 I mean the fear, the panic in the community was tremendous. 82 00:04:48,050 --> 00:04:49,950 We wound up joining with the L.A. Sheriff's Department 83 00:04:50,051 --> 00:04:51,481 and the Los Angeles Police Department 84 00:04:51,584 --> 00:04:53,354 to form a task force. 85 00:04:53,451 --> 00:04:54,651 We were defenseless. 86 00:04:54,651 --> 00:04:56,851 We were clueless, trying to solve this. 87 00:04:56,852 --> 00:05:01,192 I mean, we went through 10 murders and had no leads. 88 00:05:01,253 --> 00:05:03,453 ♪♪ 89 00:05:03,454 --> 00:05:04,994 One of the interesting things that occurred 90 00:05:05,055 --> 00:05:07,345 after the last victim was found ... 91 00:05:07,355 --> 00:05:08,985 the murders stopped. 92 00:05:09,055 --> 00:05:11,255 They completely stopped. 93 00:05:11,356 --> 00:05:12,756 We don't have closure. 94 00:05:12,857 --> 00:05:16,557 ♪♪ 95 00:05:16,557 --> 00:05:20,157 McEachran: Bellingham was very concerned about these two young women, 96 00:05:20,258 --> 00:05:23,058 Karen Mandic, Diane Wilder, who were missing. 97 00:05:23,059 --> 00:05:25,689 This really had a note to it 98 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:29,159 that really concerned the police. 99 00:05:29,261 --> 00:05:31,261 Reporter: The bodies of Karen Mandic and Diane Wilder 100 00:05:31,361 --> 00:05:35,161 were found stuffed in the back seat of Ms. Mandic's car. 101 00:05:35,162 --> 00:05:38,062 McEachran: There were large ligature marks on the necks 102 00:05:38,063 --> 00:05:40,003 of both of the girls, 103 00:05:40,063 --> 00:05:43,063 and which should indicate they were strangled. 104 00:05:43,164 --> 00:05:44,864 And it was something the police department 105 00:05:44,865 --> 00:05:48,555 put all of their energy to solve. 106 00:05:48,565 --> 00:05:50,265 Reporter: The first hint of their disappearance 107 00:05:50,266 --> 00:05:53,066 came late Thursday, when Karen Mandic failed to return 108 00:05:53,067 --> 00:05:55,667 to the local Fred Meyer from her dinner break. 109 00:05:55,766 --> 00:05:57,966 Which is a large department food store. 110 00:05:58,068 --> 00:06:00,968 Davis: Karen asked her manager if she could take a long dinner break, 111 00:06:00,969 --> 00:06:03,699 because she had a job opportunity that came up. 112 00:06:03,768 --> 00:06:06,168 McEachran: She had a security job. 113 00:06:06,270 --> 00:06:08,870 Karen found out about this security job 114 00:06:08,871 --> 00:06:11,501 from a former Fred Meyer's employee. 115 00:06:11,570 --> 00:06:15,070 ♪♪ 116 00:06:15,072 --> 00:06:18,812 McEachran: There was a note there that indicated 117 00:06:18,873 --> 00:06:21,073 "Ken B. Called." 118 00:06:21,074 --> 00:06:23,384 Investigators had called the security company 119 00:06:23,474 --> 00:06:27,384 and found out a man by the name of Kenneth Bianchi worked there. 120 00:06:27,475 --> 00:06:31,475 He had also previously worked at Fred Meyer. 121 00:06:31,477 --> 00:06:34,207 McEachran: They also found a pubic hair when they lifted 122 00:06:34,277 --> 00:06:36,607 Diane Wilder's body out of the car 123 00:06:36,677 --> 00:06:39,777 that matched microscopically the characteristics 124 00:06:39,777 --> 00:06:42,277 of pubic hair from Mr. Bianchi. 125 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,779 I charged Kenneth Bianchi with 126 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:46,509 murder in the first degree, two counts. 127 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:49,880 ♪♪ 128 00:06:55,282 --> 00:06:57,182 Burkhalter: Then last week, Kenneth Bianchi was arrested 129 00:06:57,183 --> 00:07:00,583 in Bellingham, Washington, and named as a prime suspect 130 00:07:00,583 --> 00:07:03,893 in the strangulation murders of two co-eds there. 131 00:07:03,985 --> 00:07:06,985 The Hillside Strangler cases we had heard about in the media, 132 00:07:07,086 --> 00:07:08,316 but it was not something at least 133 00:07:08,386 --> 00:07:10,916 that I specifically was following. 134 00:07:10,987 --> 00:07:12,587 It was in California, 135 00:07:12,586 --> 00:07:16,116 but our police chief in Bellingham was from Los Angeles, 136 00:07:16,188 --> 00:07:20,018 and he was familiar with the Hillside Strangler cases. 137 00:07:20,089 --> 00:07:22,619 He told me, "I think this looks like it, 138 00:07:22,688 --> 00:07:24,088 has a lot of the connections 139 00:07:24,190 --> 00:07:27,620 that we have seen, as far as the manner of death." 140 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:32,090 Burkhalter: The young women had been strangled, the car abandoned. 141 00:07:32,092 --> 00:07:34,732 McEachran: And he started checking on Bianchi and realized 142 00:07:34,792 --> 00:07:36,892 he had been in California. 143 00:07:36,893 --> 00:07:39,593 He had lived in so-called Strangler country, 144 00:07:39,593 --> 00:07:42,433 the Glendale area of San Fernando valley. 145 00:07:42,528 --> 00:07:45,398 Burkhalter: A number of curious coincidences came to light. 146 00:07:45,495 --> 00:07:46,995 Among them, Bianchi had, 147 00:07:46,996 --> 00:07:49,226 during the period of the Los Angeles murders, 148 00:07:49,296 --> 00:07:50,696 lived in a Glendale apartment building 149 00:07:50,796 --> 00:07:54,196 where one Hillside Strangler victim also lived, 150 00:07:54,298 --> 00:07:56,898 across the street from where another victim lived. 151 00:07:56,898 --> 00:08:01,298 ♪♪ 152 00:08:01,299 --> 00:08:02,899 McEachran: We went into his background, 153 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:06,200 and we sent officers immediately out to Rochester, New York, 154 00:08:06,301 --> 00:08:08,801 where he was from. 155 00:08:08,901 --> 00:08:11,641 To say that Kenneth Bianchi had a troubled childhood 156 00:08:11,701 --> 00:08:13,541 is putting it mildly. 157 00:08:13,635 --> 00:08:17,495 Bianchi's biological mother was a sex worker. 158 00:08:17,503 --> 00:08:21,203 Broberg: His birth mother is very young when she gives birth to him. 159 00:08:21,204 --> 00:08:25,114 She very quickly realizes she can't take care of Kenneth, 160 00:08:25,206 --> 00:08:27,136 and then moves through the adoption, 161 00:08:27,206 --> 00:08:31,336 and the Bianchis come into the situation. 162 00:08:31,407 --> 00:08:34,537 The Bianchis then have their own interesting dynamic. 163 00:08:34,641 --> 00:08:37,311 Kenneth's mother is the domineering personality. 164 00:08:37,308 --> 00:08:40,208 The father plays a very submissive role. 165 00:08:40,309 --> 00:08:43,739 His mother was overprotective. 166 00:08:43,809 --> 00:08:47,639 When we looked at some of the records from schools 167 00:08:47,710 --> 00:08:49,250 that Bianchi attended, 168 00:08:49,311 --> 00:08:53,551 you can see references made to chronic lying. 169 00:08:53,646 --> 00:08:58,306 He lied when there was no good reason to lie. 170 00:08:58,414 --> 00:09:00,654 Schlesinger: When Bianchi was 12, he got in trouble 171 00:09:00,714 --> 00:09:03,014 for pulling down a young girl's pants. 172 00:09:03,015 --> 00:09:07,815 All young boys have sexual interests at 12-13 years old, 173 00:09:07,916 --> 00:09:09,416 but he acted on it. 174 00:09:09,517 --> 00:09:11,547 Most young boys don't do that. 175 00:09:11,650 --> 00:09:13,550 Bianchi did do that. 176 00:09:13,617 --> 00:09:16,317 Notwithstanding Bianchi being fairly bright, 177 00:09:16,418 --> 00:09:18,518 he couldn't get along with the teachers. 178 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:22,749 He is an individual who wants to be dominant and in control, 179 00:09:22,819 --> 00:09:26,249 and he wants to see other people as submissive ... 180 00:09:26,321 --> 00:09:28,521 submissive to him. 181 00:09:28,522 --> 00:09:32,522 On the surface, though, Bianchi could appear normal. 182 00:09:32,522 --> 00:09:36,362 Schlesinger: He's a handsome guy. He's well-spoken. 183 00:09:36,423 --> 00:09:38,663 Davis: As a teen, he even dated quite a bit. 184 00:09:38,723 --> 00:09:41,133 He met a girl and married her right out of high school. 185 00:09:41,225 --> 00:09:43,525 She left him almost immediately. 186 00:09:43,526 --> 00:09:47,126 There's little information about her reason for leaving. 187 00:09:47,126 --> 00:09:49,356 Either way, Bianchi thought of the future 188 00:09:49,427 --> 00:09:54,327 and had a conventional view of what he wanted to do. 189 00:09:54,328 --> 00:09:56,358 Schlesinger: Bianchi wanted to be in authority. 190 00:09:56,429 --> 00:10:00,159 He wanted a job in authority, a police officer. 191 00:10:00,230 --> 00:10:02,130 Bianchi never made the cut to join the force, 192 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:04,060 so he did the next best thing. 193 00:10:04,131 --> 00:10:06,331 He became a security guard. 194 00:10:06,331 --> 00:10:08,971 McEachran: And his fellow employees and coworkers 195 00:10:09,032 --> 00:10:10,672 thought he was a nice guy. 196 00:10:10,731 --> 00:10:12,731 Schlesinger: He's smooth and manipulative, 197 00:10:12,732 --> 00:10:16,172 and so he has a good ability to put people at ease. 198 00:10:16,234 --> 00:10:21,774 And so the disturbance is masked and covered up. 199 00:10:21,834 --> 00:10:24,344 That was, until he was caught stealing 200 00:10:24,336 --> 00:10:27,066 from the stores he was hired to protect, 201 00:10:27,136 --> 00:10:30,066 so he decided to make a change. 202 00:10:30,137 --> 00:10:33,667 He decided, "Hey, I'm going to go out to L.A. 203 00:10:33,737 --> 00:10:37,267 I'm going to change my life, see my cousin." 204 00:10:37,339 --> 00:10:38,739 And sure enough, that's what he did. 205 00:10:38,839 --> 00:10:40,569 He moved out to Glendale, California, 206 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:43,669 and moved in with Angelo Buono, who was his role model. 207 00:10:43,739 --> 00:10:46,039 And that's when the real trouble began. 208 00:10:46,141 --> 00:10:54,141 ♪♪ 209 00:10:56,743 --> 00:10:58,843 Kenneth Bianchi told detectives he had nothing to do 210 00:10:58,944 --> 00:11:02,344 with the Hillside Stranglings down in Los Angeles, 211 00:11:02,345 --> 00:11:04,345 let alone the murders of Diane Wilder 212 00:11:04,346 --> 00:11:06,876 and Karen Mandic up in Washington. 213 00:11:06,947 --> 00:11:09,747 De Reyes: His girlfriend, Kelli Boyd, was raising their infant son 214 00:11:09,746 --> 00:11:12,046 and didn't know what to think. 215 00:11:12,148 --> 00:11:16,178 And he begins this process of writing to her, saying, 216 00:11:16,249 --> 00:11:17,779 "It's not true." 217 00:11:17,849 --> 00:11:20,879 De Reyes: "It takes a real maniac to do what was done. 218 00:11:20,950 --> 00:11:22,250 God forgive him." 219 00:11:22,251 --> 00:11:23,851 Broberg: And it continued on, 220 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:28,590 his ongoing belief that he was innocent. 221 00:11:28,685 --> 00:11:31,245 Davis: As L.A. detectives continued to investigate 222 00:11:31,253 --> 00:11:33,193 Bianchi for the Hillside Stranglings, 223 00:11:33,253 --> 00:11:37,793 the evidence in the Washington murders continued to mount. 224 00:11:37,853 --> 00:11:41,163 Once we reached a point where I felt all the evidence showed 225 00:11:41,255 --> 00:11:48,355 clearly that Bianchi had killed both of these young women, 226 00:11:48,357 --> 00:11:51,787 I filed for the death penalty, 227 00:11:51,857 --> 00:11:54,987 and I'd notified the defense attorney. 228 00:11:55,059 --> 00:11:57,459 The same day, he claimed that Mr. Bianchi 229 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,959 was a multiple personality. 230 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:01,560 Schulman: He is in custody in Washington, 231 00:12:01,561 --> 00:12:04,061 where he pleaded innocent by reason of insanity 232 00:12:04,061 --> 00:12:07,301 to two counts of murder. 233 00:12:07,362 --> 00:12:10,602 Allnate: Bianchi was examined by a series of court-appointed psychiatrists 234 00:12:10,696 --> 00:12:13,996 who recorded their sessions on video tape. 235 00:12:14,064 --> 00:12:17,004 I just can't imagine killing anybody... 236 00:12:17,064 --> 00:12:19,204 ♪♪ 237 00:12:19,265 --> 00:12:21,965 Taking life. 238 00:12:22,065 --> 00:12:23,655 Allnate: Two of the doctors reported that Bianchi 239 00:12:23,665 --> 00:12:25,865 suffered from multiple or split personalities. 240 00:12:25,966 --> 00:12:27,366 They said the murders were committed 241 00:12:27,367 --> 00:12:28,797 by one of the hidden personalities 242 00:12:28,866 --> 00:12:30,766 who called himself Steve Walker, 243 00:12:30,767 --> 00:12:32,697 a personality which allegedly surfaced 244 00:12:32,767 --> 00:12:35,767 when Bianchi was hypnotized. 245 00:12:35,768 --> 00:12:38,098 Psychiatrist: Okay, I'm gonna start counting... 246 00:12:38,170 --> 00:12:41,600 25, 26, 27... 247 00:12:41,704 --> 00:12:44,374 And now I wanna talk to Steve. 248 00:12:44,371 --> 00:12:46,171 What's your name? 249 00:12:46,272 --> 00:12:47,372 Steve. 250 00:12:47,472 --> 00:12:48,612 What's your last name? 251 00:12:48,706 --> 00:12:51,966 You, you're the [bleep] 252 00:12:52,073 --> 00:12:55,713 that's been trying to get me to leave him. 253 00:12:55,773 --> 00:12:59,013 Broberg: So when Steve, one of his personalities, 254 00:12:59,075 --> 00:13:02,805 comes out, he confesses to all sorts 255 00:13:02,875 --> 00:13:05,175 of criminal type of behavior. 256 00:13:05,177 --> 00:13:09,007 I [bleep] killed those broads, you know, to smart him up, 257 00:13:09,078 --> 00:13:12,278 to show him that he couldn't push me [bleep] around. 258 00:13:12,379 --> 00:13:13,479 Here in Bellingham? 259 00:13:13,479 --> 00:13:14,979 That's right. 260 00:13:14,979 --> 00:13:18,709 Strangled 'em, it's [bleep] plain as that. 261 00:13:18,779 --> 00:13:21,809 Strangled them with a [bleep] cord, nothing to it. 262 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,880 The name Stephen Walker was a name that interested us. 263 00:13:26,982 --> 00:13:30,882 We had taken a briefcase when Mr. Bianchi was arrested, 264 00:13:30,882 --> 00:13:32,982 and in the briefcase, there were papers showing 265 00:13:32,984 --> 00:13:35,624 that he had a degree in psychology 266 00:13:35,717 --> 00:13:37,987 and that he had gone to Pepperdine. 267 00:13:38,085 --> 00:13:40,215 We checked with Pepperdine, and he was not a student. 268 00:13:40,286 --> 00:13:43,816 But we had transcripts for Thomas Stephen Walker, 269 00:13:43,885 --> 00:13:47,185 and he had graduated from Pepperdine. 270 00:13:47,287 --> 00:13:49,987 He had a degree in psychology. 271 00:13:50,088 --> 00:13:53,618 And he had responded to an advertisement in the paper 272 00:13:53,688 --> 00:13:57,118 in Los Angeles in which a psychologist 273 00:13:57,190 --> 00:14:00,320 was asking to have someone join his practice 274 00:14:00,391 --> 00:14:03,891 and invited the people to send in transcripts. 275 00:14:03,890 --> 00:14:07,790 The so-called psychologist who wanted the transcripts 276 00:14:07,892 --> 00:14:09,492 was Kenneth Bianchi. 277 00:14:09,593 --> 00:14:11,433 He was pretending to be a psychologist, 278 00:14:11,494 --> 00:14:14,634 and that's where Walker sent his transcripts. 279 00:14:14,727 --> 00:14:16,197 McEachran: Bianchi changed the names 280 00:14:16,295 --> 00:14:19,295 and put "Kenneth Bianchi" in the names on the transcripts 281 00:14:19,395 --> 00:14:23,495 and started a scam psychological business. 282 00:14:23,497 --> 00:14:26,627 Psychiatrist: Up here in Bellingham, 283 00:14:26,730 --> 00:14:28,800 what did Steve do up here? 284 00:14:28,897 --> 00:14:34,397 Okay, Steve up here lured and killed the two girls. 285 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:37,129 We felt that the interviews 286 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,200 really were perpetuating this scam that Mr. Bianchi 287 00:14:41,201 --> 00:14:43,201 was trying to present. 288 00:14:43,302 --> 00:14:45,802 In one session, the psychologist urges Bianchi 289 00:14:45,801 --> 00:14:49,301 to engage his alter ego in a dialogue. 290 00:14:49,403 --> 00:14:51,403 You keep saying I killed those girls. 291 00:14:51,503 --> 00:14:55,313 I didn't, you did. 292 00:14:55,404 --> 00:14:56,604 It was me. 293 00:14:56,605 --> 00:14:58,495 I'm the one that's getting the blame. 294 00:14:58,505 --> 00:15:03,005 ♪♪ 295 00:15:03,007 --> 00:15:05,307 You just don't understand, you know, 296 00:15:05,307 --> 00:15:09,007 what happens to me is gonna happen to you. 297 00:15:11,109 --> 00:15:13,009 Schlesinger: They also brought in Dr. Orne, 298 00:15:13,109 --> 00:15:15,639 who is really an expert on hypnosis 299 00:15:15,743 --> 00:15:18,613 and dissociative identity disorder. 300 00:15:18,611 --> 00:15:20,141 McEachran: Dr. Orne told me, 301 00:15:20,211 --> 00:15:21,911 "Look, I've looked at the video tapes. 302 00:15:22,012 --> 00:15:25,112 I'll tell you what, I think he's simulating hypnosis." 303 00:15:25,212 --> 00:15:28,112 Schlesinger: The psychologist suggested to Bianchi 304 00:15:28,113 --> 00:15:30,953 that most people that have multiple personality disorders 305 00:15:31,014 --> 00:15:33,414 have more than one personality. 306 00:15:33,514 --> 00:15:36,614 And lo and behold, there's a new personality 307 00:15:36,615 --> 00:15:38,605 that Bianchi comes out with. 308 00:15:38,615 --> 00:15:40,115 Dr. Allison: Come on, Billy. 309 00:15:40,216 --> 00:15:42,016 Come on, Billy. 310 00:15:42,117 --> 00:15:44,047 Now is not the time to be shy. 311 00:15:44,117 --> 00:15:46,017 Dr. Allison, nice to meet you. 312 00:15:46,117 --> 00:15:48,217 You have not seen me before, have you? 313 00:15:48,218 --> 00:15:49,348 No, sir. 314 00:15:49,418 --> 00:15:52,818 Right from the jump, it was a bad performance. 315 00:15:52,918 --> 00:15:58,018 As I count backwards from 5 to 1, you'll be awake. 316 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Anyone who knows anything about multiple personality disorder, 317 00:16:02,021 --> 00:16:04,421 this is just a cheap acting job. 318 00:16:04,422 --> 00:16:07,122 And it really underlined the fact that this was a scam, 319 00:16:07,123 --> 00:16:11,063 and we thought we'd be able to wrestle him down in a trial. 320 00:16:11,124 --> 00:16:15,034 But investigators were working hard to try to tie him 321 00:16:15,125 --> 00:16:18,425 to the Hillside Stranglings in L.A. 322 00:16:18,426 --> 00:16:21,826 They were asking about these cases in California, 323 00:16:21,826 --> 00:16:23,626 and we had made enough of a connection there 324 00:16:23,627 --> 00:16:27,827 that I'm sure he realized that was a real problem for him. 325 00:16:27,827 --> 00:16:30,357 This is probably the major break in the case. 326 00:16:30,429 --> 00:16:32,829 Let's go on listing the kinds of activities 327 00:16:32,828 --> 00:16:35,428 Steve was involved in, in Los Angeles. 328 00:16:35,530 --> 00:16:37,130 The killings of the girls. 329 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:45,230 The killings of the girls to get not only sexual gratification, 330 00:16:45,232 --> 00:16:48,232 but also it gave a personal sense 331 00:16:48,233 --> 00:16:55,673 of stimulation or excitement. 332 00:16:55,768 --> 00:17:05,268 ♪♪ 333 00:17:05,337 --> 00:17:07,667 He was trying to use a multiple personality 334 00:17:07,771 --> 00:17:11,971 as a defense to anything that would come up there also. 335 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:14,139 He said to detectives, "I'll tell you what. 336 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,540 I'll turn state's witness, 337 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,940 and I'll tell you who the other strangler was. 338 00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:22,540 It was my cousin, Angelo Buono." 339 00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,342 Psychiatrist: Why did Angelo kill any girls? 340 00:17:24,342 --> 00:17:26,682 What did he have against them? 341 00:17:26,742 --> 00:17:30,542 I dunno, man. You know, he just... 342 00:17:30,644 --> 00:17:33,844 He was just an easy guy to get with the program, you know? 343 00:17:33,844 --> 00:17:37,354 I gave him the idea, and he went with it all the way. 344 00:17:37,446 --> 00:17:39,346 Did you watch him kill them all? 345 00:17:39,447 --> 00:17:41,547 You bet I did, strangled them all. 346 00:17:41,647 --> 00:17:43,477 It's the easiest way to go. 347 00:17:43,547 --> 00:17:47,377 He was giving a description of these homicides and described 348 00:17:47,448 --> 00:17:51,678 how he and Angelo had done this together in California. 349 00:17:51,783 --> 00:17:53,253 Who killed who? 350 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:54,780 I killed the first broad. 351 00:17:54,849 --> 00:17:57,049 Who was she? 352 00:17:57,051 --> 00:17:59,351 Some black broad, I don't remember her name. 353 00:17:59,451 --> 00:18:00,851 How did you happen to pick her up? 354 00:18:00,951 --> 00:18:02,891 She was a hooker. 355 00:18:02,951 --> 00:18:04,651 Okay, who killed the second one? 356 00:18:04,653 --> 00:18:06,053 Angelo. Were you with him? 357 00:18:06,153 --> 00:18:08,253 He did a nice job doing it, too. 358 00:18:08,353 --> 00:18:10,693 Where did you kill her? 359 00:18:10,787 --> 00:18:13,357 Right at Angelo's house. 360 00:18:13,455 --> 00:18:18,255 I would have to say that certainly we are looking at him. 361 00:18:18,256 --> 00:18:22,356 He's had a relationship with Mr. Bianchi. 362 00:18:22,457 --> 00:18:26,057 Angelo, now he's my kind of person. 363 00:18:26,158 --> 00:18:29,858 He doesn't care a [bleep] about life, it's great. 364 00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:32,688 Other people's life. 365 00:18:32,793 --> 00:18:35,063 Has he killed anybody? 366 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:39,460 Yup, he has. How many? 367 00:18:39,561 --> 00:18:42,861 Five girls. 368 00:18:42,961 --> 00:18:44,701 What a team we were. 369 00:18:44,796 --> 00:18:49,556 ♪♪ 370 00:18:49,664 --> 00:18:51,364 Komo: 27-year-old Kenneth Bianchi, 371 00:18:51,365 --> 00:18:53,495 charged with two homicides here in Bellingham, 372 00:18:53,565 --> 00:18:55,365 pleaded guilty to the Bellingham charges 373 00:18:55,465 --> 00:18:58,465 and admitted guilt to the Los Angeles slayings. 374 00:18:58,466 --> 00:19:01,766 When he's getting sentenced, he cries to everybody. 375 00:19:01,766 --> 00:19:04,296 He says how deeply sorry he is. 376 00:19:04,368 --> 00:19:08,598 Bianchi: To even begin to try and live with myself, 377 00:19:08,702 --> 00:19:11,572 I have to take responsibility for what I've done. 378 00:19:11,570 --> 00:19:14,470 ♪♪ 379 00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:19,010 And I have to do everything I can to get Angelo Buono. 380 00:19:19,072 --> 00:19:20,572 It's ridiculous. 381 00:19:20,672 --> 00:19:24,372 He's not sorry about anything, other than he got caught. 382 00:19:24,373 --> 00:19:29,583 ♪♪ 383 00:19:33,509 --> 00:19:34,909 Komo: Whatcom County prosecutor Dave McEachran 384 00:19:34,975 --> 00:19:38,765 asked for life sentences to be served consecutively. 385 00:19:38,775 --> 00:19:41,505 Bianchi says he will waive extradition to California 386 00:19:41,578 --> 00:19:44,008 and travel down there to testify against his cousin, 387 00:19:44,078 --> 00:19:47,178 Angelo Buono, whom Bianchi says was an accomplice 388 00:19:47,179 --> 00:19:48,509 in a series of killings 389 00:19:48,579 --> 00:19:52,209 known as the Los Angeles Hillside Stranglings. 390 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,180 Davis: As soon as the name Angelo Buono 391 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,810 was tied to the case, 392 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,720 I and my colleagues found out where he lived, where he worked. 393 00:19:59,815 --> 00:20:03,115 His upholstery shop was right next door to his house. 394 00:20:03,183 --> 00:20:05,423 Allegedly, people such as Frank Sinatra 395 00:20:05,483 --> 00:20:07,483 were his customers. 396 00:20:07,584 --> 00:20:10,784 He's an obsessive compulsive neat freak. 397 00:20:10,784 --> 00:20:14,224 He cleans things that you could use as an operating table. 398 00:20:14,286 --> 00:20:17,216 He cleans them again. 399 00:20:17,287 --> 00:20:19,917 Davis: Bianchi was an unreliable witness. 400 00:20:19,986 --> 00:20:21,286 So there was a period of time 401 00:20:21,287 --> 00:20:24,487 there when Buono is loose on the streets. 402 00:20:24,488 --> 00:20:26,818 He hasn't been arrested yet. 403 00:20:26,888 --> 00:20:29,818 Now as a journalist, I was going to find out 404 00:20:29,889 --> 00:20:32,489 everything I could about Angelo Buono. 405 00:20:32,591 --> 00:20:35,891 ♪♪ 406 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:40,490 Angelo Buono was born in Rochester, New York, in 1934. 407 00:20:40,592 --> 00:20:44,992 Schlesinger: Buono had a very, very troubled relationship with his mother. 408 00:20:45,094 --> 00:20:48,094 Evidently, she was running around on his father, 409 00:20:48,094 --> 00:20:49,634 which led to the divorce. 410 00:20:49,728 --> 00:20:51,598 That, I really think affected him, 411 00:20:51,695 --> 00:20:54,895 because she stepped out of her mother role 412 00:20:54,995 --> 00:20:59,995 and acted out sexually, at least in Buono's mind. 413 00:21:00,097 --> 00:21:04,397 He had a hatred for women that showed up again and again. 414 00:21:04,498 --> 00:21:08,198 Angelo is known to say many times, 415 00:21:08,199 --> 00:21:11,929 "Some women just deserve to die." 416 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,630 Schlesinger: When Buono was an adolescent, 417 00:21:13,734 --> 00:21:17,444 he was telling other guys that he was sodomizing girls 418 00:21:17,502 --> 00:21:19,402 and raping girls and this sort of thing. 419 00:21:19,502 --> 00:21:21,002 Whether or not it's true, it's hard to know, 420 00:21:21,002 --> 00:21:24,542 but just the fact that Buono is talking like that, 421 00:21:24,603 --> 00:21:29,313 it's really beyond what average teenage boys talk about, 422 00:21:29,405 --> 00:21:32,035 so you see deviancy emerging. 423 00:21:32,105 --> 00:21:36,935 Buono was acting out in a typical antisocial way 424 00:21:37,006 --> 00:21:41,836 as a young person ... left school, gets arrested, 425 00:21:41,907 --> 00:21:45,707 steals, all these sorts of things. 426 00:21:45,709 --> 00:21:49,339 At 21, Angelo impregnates a 17-year-old girl, 427 00:21:49,410 --> 00:21:51,210 and she becomes his first wife. 428 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:56,610 He is awful to her, as he will be to his subsequent wives. 429 00:21:56,712 --> 00:21:59,512 He fathers at least eight children, 430 00:21:59,613 --> 00:22:03,113 never takes responsibility for any of them, 431 00:22:03,113 --> 00:22:04,853 and that's just his life. 432 00:22:04,913 --> 00:22:06,813 That's just how he goes. 433 00:22:06,813 --> 00:22:08,613 Buono ended up marrying four times 434 00:22:08,615 --> 00:22:11,805 and had numerous other relationships. 435 00:22:11,814 --> 00:22:16,654 All of the women he married, he abused physically, verbally. 436 00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:20,450 They also made the accusation that he had abused 437 00:22:20,518 --> 00:22:23,248 one of his stepdaughters and that he said, 438 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:25,919 "Well, she needs to be broken in." 439 00:22:26,018 --> 00:22:29,748 I wouldn't call him a charismatic person, 440 00:22:29,853 --> 00:22:33,423 although apparently a lot of young women 441 00:22:33,521 --> 00:22:36,421 found him attractive. 442 00:22:36,422 --> 00:22:39,362 He was the kind of guy that carried a big wad 443 00:22:39,423 --> 00:22:44,023 of $100 bills and liked to impress people. 444 00:22:44,023 --> 00:22:46,323 One of the characteristics of a psychopath 445 00:22:46,425 --> 00:22:48,915 is other people want to be around them. 446 00:22:49,024 --> 00:22:51,824 They know how to ingratiate themselves with people, 447 00:22:51,825 --> 00:22:57,225 and they can be attractive to some types of individuals. 448 00:22:57,227 --> 00:22:59,857 Among the people who came to admire Buono was his cousin, 449 00:22:59,927 --> 00:23:04,857 Ken Bianchi, who came out to California to live with him. 450 00:23:04,928 --> 00:23:06,428 Renner: When Ken arrived in L.A., 451 00:23:06,530 --> 00:23:11,930 he had the Hollywood vision of Los Angeles in his head, 452 00:23:12,030 --> 00:23:14,630 and he just seemed to be leading a normal life. 453 00:23:14,632 --> 00:23:17,772 He found a girlfriend. She got pregnant. 454 00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:19,531 He seemed to be delighted, really, 455 00:23:19,633 --> 00:23:21,933 about the prospect of being a father. 456 00:23:21,933 --> 00:23:27,873 And so on the surface, he seemed to be a perfectly normal guy 457 00:23:27,934 --> 00:23:31,744 in his 20s with a bright future ahead of him. 458 00:23:31,736 --> 00:23:33,666 But the real Kenneth Bianchi 459 00:23:33,769 --> 00:23:36,539 was someone completely different from the guy 460 00:23:36,637 --> 00:23:40,237 that he presented himself to be in Los Angeles. 461 00:23:40,238 --> 00:23:42,038 When Bianchi gets to L.A., 462 00:23:42,139 --> 00:23:46,869 we know he establishes this kind of fake psychology service. 463 00:23:46,939 --> 00:23:49,239 Renner: He really studied the subject. 464 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,070 He knew the jargon. 465 00:23:51,141 --> 00:23:53,641 So he got a false license, 466 00:23:53,741 --> 00:23:56,541 and he was so well-read in the subject 467 00:23:56,642 --> 00:23:59,282 that he was able to convince another psychologist 468 00:23:59,343 --> 00:24:02,483 to let him have an office space. 469 00:24:02,544 --> 00:24:06,884 He even had one or two patients drop in. 470 00:24:06,944 --> 00:24:09,684 De Reyes: But Bianchi, well, he needed more. 471 00:24:09,779 --> 00:24:14,079 He set his sights on being in a position of authority, 472 00:24:14,146 --> 00:24:18,776 something he was obsessed with since he was a little kid. 473 00:24:18,847 --> 00:24:21,747 Meredith: We had a candidate that had applied to be a police officer 474 00:24:21,749 --> 00:24:24,049 that my sergeant wanted to have rejected. 475 00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:26,949 He goes, "I don't like this guy. There's something about him." 476 00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:29,149 So we wound up disqualifying him. 477 00:24:29,150 --> 00:24:31,450 His name happened to be Kenneth Bianchi. 478 00:24:31,451 --> 00:24:37,091 ♪♪ 479 00:24:39,286 --> 00:24:44,346 ♪♪ 480 00:24:44,355 --> 00:24:47,085 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 481 00:24:47,155 --> 00:24:48,885 Kenneth Bianchi had bright dreams 482 00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:50,655 when he moved to Los Angeles 483 00:24:50,656 --> 00:24:53,356 to be near his cousin, Angelo Buono. 484 00:24:53,357 --> 00:24:56,687 For years, he'd imagined himself in a position of authority 485 00:24:56,790 --> 00:24:58,660 and having others look up to him. 486 00:24:58,658 --> 00:25:01,288 Although Buono and Bianchi barely knew each other, 487 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,359 the cousins found they had more in common than either realized. 488 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:10,490 ♪♪ 489 00:25:10,561 --> 00:25:13,101 Davis: When Bianchi moved out to southern California, 490 00:25:13,162 --> 00:25:15,002 he knew he needed to make some money. 491 00:25:15,061 --> 00:25:16,661 Well, his older cousin Angelo said, 492 00:25:16,663 --> 00:25:18,763 "Why don't we go into the prostitution business?" 493 00:25:18,763 --> 00:25:20,363 Reporter: This is Sabra. 494 00:25:20,463 --> 00:25:23,163 She was 17 years old when she was allegedly forced to work 495 00:25:23,164 --> 00:25:26,164 as a prostitute on behalf of Angelo Buono 496 00:25:26,165 --> 00:25:28,895 and his cousin and companion, Ken Bianchi, 497 00:25:28,964 --> 00:25:31,504 now the two suspects in the Hillside Stranglings. 498 00:25:31,566 --> 00:25:33,166 His temper flared up very easily, 499 00:25:33,267 --> 00:25:36,767 and if he didn't get his way on things that he wanted, 500 00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:38,198 then it was like, 501 00:25:38,268 --> 00:25:40,268 "I'm going to slap you around a couple of times 502 00:25:40,369 --> 00:25:44,099 until you realize that I mean business." 503 00:25:44,169 --> 00:25:46,069 Lee: Sabra's a very pretty girl, 504 00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:48,570 full of dreams, like many girls her age, 505 00:25:48,571 --> 00:25:51,801 and believed that she was going to be a model or an actress, 506 00:25:51,905 --> 00:25:53,565 and came to Hollywood. 507 00:25:53,572 --> 00:25:56,472 Kenneth Bianchi posed as a modeling agent 508 00:25:56,472 --> 00:25:58,272 when he lured Sabra. 509 00:25:58,373 --> 00:26:02,613 He was a master of identities and of personalities. 510 00:26:02,674 --> 00:26:06,374 Sabra was pressured to bring another girl in. 511 00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:08,575 Becky Spears was a friend of sabra's. 512 00:26:08,576 --> 00:26:09,976 And Becky came in, 513 00:26:10,075 --> 00:26:12,175 and things started to get rough at that point. 514 00:26:12,177 --> 00:26:14,507 I never saw a gentle side of either one of them. 515 00:26:14,577 --> 00:26:17,177 I never saw a human side of either one of them. 516 00:26:17,278 --> 00:26:21,178 I would say when I was there, I was kidnapped. 517 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:25,379 I was there not on my own will. 518 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,310 Becky was sent out to meet a lawyer as a customer, 519 00:26:28,381 --> 00:26:31,521 and Becky told him the story, and he helped her escape. 520 00:26:31,581 --> 00:26:34,121 De Reyes: They still had the other young woman, 521 00:26:34,182 --> 00:26:37,182 and eventually she escaped. 522 00:26:37,283 --> 00:26:40,983 Lee: There's a theory that after Sabra and Becky got away, 523 00:26:40,983 --> 00:26:42,683 that these two wanted revenge, 524 00:26:42,684 --> 00:26:44,524 but I think it was more complicated than that. 525 00:26:44,585 --> 00:26:46,675 I think that they had the intentions 526 00:26:46,685 --> 00:26:48,585 of setting up an escort service. 527 00:26:48,586 --> 00:26:51,586 Davis: So Bianchi and Buono contacted two young prostitutes 528 00:26:51,587 --> 00:26:55,317 in Hollywood, Yolanda Washington and Debbie Noble. 529 00:26:55,388 --> 00:27:00,618 At one point, they were given a list of possible johns. 530 00:27:00,689 --> 00:27:03,819 They soon found out, though, that the list was fake, 531 00:27:03,923 --> 00:27:06,093 and that they were taken for money. 532 00:27:06,190 --> 00:27:08,190 That angered them greatly. 533 00:27:10,324 --> 00:27:13,834 Yolanda Washington happened to casually say to 534 00:27:13,925 --> 00:27:19,685 Angelo and Ken where she walked the streets on Sunset Boulevard, 535 00:27:19,694 --> 00:27:22,404 and they went and found Yolanda Washington. 536 00:27:22,495 --> 00:27:24,085 Renner: They killed her in a car, 537 00:27:24,094 --> 00:27:27,204 but once they decided that that was too risky, 538 00:27:27,196 --> 00:27:29,396 they developed this whole M.O. 539 00:27:29,496 --> 00:27:31,796 ♪♪ 540 00:27:31,797 --> 00:27:35,727 Bianchi and Buono would drive around as if they're two cops. 541 00:27:35,831 --> 00:27:38,531 The police ruse thing was used in almost all of them. 542 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:40,399 Psychiatrist: So they were under the impression 543 00:27:40,499 --> 00:27:43,799 that they were being taken to a police station, right? 544 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,300 Right. 545 00:27:45,301 --> 00:27:48,401 All signs pointed to the fact that most of the victims 546 00:27:48,401 --> 00:27:50,231 were brought back to Buono's home 547 00:27:50,302 --> 00:27:52,402 next to the upholstery shop. 548 00:27:52,402 --> 00:28:01,842 The girls were undressed, bound, gagged, whatever. 549 00:28:01,904 --> 00:28:03,444 There was sex with them. 550 00:28:03,505 --> 00:28:06,505 They were apparently placed in a chair 551 00:28:06,506 --> 00:28:10,606 where they were violated, tortured. 552 00:28:10,707 --> 00:28:15,037 Fibers from that chair were found on several of the victims. 553 00:28:15,107 --> 00:28:18,607 Then they were put on the floor and killed. 554 00:28:18,709 --> 00:28:22,209 After they were dead, the body was loaded into the car, 555 00:28:22,210 --> 00:28:23,710 the nude body. 556 00:28:23,710 --> 00:28:27,940 De Reyes: The bodies had been dumped off in areas 557 00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:32,510 that were pretty much in the general vicinity of Glendale. 558 00:28:32,512 --> 00:28:37,152 It would put Angelo Buono's shop somewhat in the middle of it. 559 00:28:39,247 --> 00:28:42,047 Buono and Bianchi were operating undetected, 560 00:28:42,114 --> 00:28:44,854 and the body count continued to rise. 561 00:28:44,949 --> 00:28:47,119 When law enforcement hasn't started to target them, 562 00:28:47,216 --> 00:28:48,516 they get brave, 563 00:28:48,516 --> 00:28:50,946 and they begin to push the envelope to see 564 00:28:51,016 --> 00:28:56,346 if they can do more and more to kind of frustrate the police. 565 00:28:56,419 --> 00:28:58,549 Davis: Kimberly Martin was the ninth victim. 566 00:28:58,619 --> 00:29:00,819 She was working for an escort service. 567 00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:02,320 These guys were so confident, 568 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,250 they asked the service to a girl to an empty apartment 569 00:29:05,321 --> 00:29:07,861 in the same complex where Bianchi lived. 570 00:29:07,954 --> 00:29:10,424 Schlesinger: When they called up and had a prostitute 571 00:29:10,422 --> 00:29:14,062 go to an empty apartment in a place where Bianchi lived, 572 00:29:14,122 --> 00:29:15,622 that's high-risk behavior, 573 00:29:15,624 --> 00:29:17,964 because they can get connected to it. 574 00:29:18,023 --> 00:29:19,563 Davis: Kimberly Martin ended up 575 00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:22,334 getting into a struggle with the killers in Bianchi's building, 576 00:29:22,425 --> 00:29:24,855 and some of the neighbors overheard the commotion. 577 00:29:24,925 --> 00:29:26,955 Lee: The police officers were interviewing everybody 578 00:29:27,025 --> 00:29:28,355 in the apartments 579 00:29:28,427 --> 00:29:31,027 and forcing them to show their driver's license. 580 00:29:31,126 --> 00:29:33,356 And they spoke to Kenneth Bianchi, 581 00:29:33,428 --> 00:29:35,258 and he manipulated his way from showing them 582 00:29:35,328 --> 00:29:36,858 the driver's license, 583 00:29:36,928 --> 00:29:39,058 because if they would have seen the driver's license, 584 00:29:39,128 --> 00:29:42,558 they would have noted that the address on the driver's license 585 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:45,560 was the same address as the previous victim. 586 00:29:45,631 --> 00:29:51,231 ♪♪ 587 00:29:52,866 --> 00:29:54,526 ♪♪ 588 00:29:54,633 --> 00:29:57,533 Meredith: In the city of Los Angeles, we went through 10 murders, 589 00:29:57,634 --> 00:30:01,634 and the Cindy Hudspeth case was the last one we had. 590 00:30:01,635 --> 00:30:03,925 Renner: Cindy Hudspeth's on her way to work. 591 00:30:03,935 --> 00:30:07,035 She's in her car. She's driving along. 592 00:30:07,036 --> 00:30:09,536 She sees an auto upholstery shop 593 00:30:09,537 --> 00:30:11,767 and just on a whim, she stops in, 594 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:14,940 and it's Angelo Buono's upholstery shop. 595 00:30:14,937 --> 00:30:17,867 Angelo and Ken cannot believe their good luck. 596 00:30:17,938 --> 00:30:20,468 They don't even have to go cruising for anyone. 597 00:30:20,540 --> 00:30:24,040 This woman just walked right into the trap. 598 00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:28,680 And at this point, their M.O. Is really solid. 599 00:30:28,742 --> 00:30:33,882 And they get her tied up, and they do what they always do. 600 00:30:33,976 --> 00:30:38,636 They sexually assault her and they strangle her. 601 00:30:38,745 --> 00:30:41,635 ♪♪ 602 00:30:41,645 --> 00:30:43,745 Since she just walked in, her car is there. 603 00:30:43,846 --> 00:30:47,376 They have to get rid of it. They put her body in the trunk. 604 00:30:47,447 --> 00:30:50,377 Ken's driving in her car with her body in it. 605 00:30:50,448 --> 00:30:52,148 They get it to a hillside. 606 00:30:52,248 --> 00:30:55,148 Angelo parks at the side of the road behind him. 607 00:30:55,249 --> 00:30:58,449 They look around to see if anyone's watching, 608 00:30:58,550 --> 00:31:02,180 and they just pitch the car over the side. 609 00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:09,750 ♪♪ 610 00:31:09,852 --> 00:31:14,892 So despite the extensive manhunt for the Hillside Stranglers, 611 00:31:14,987 --> 00:31:18,657 including after the death of Cindy Hudspeth, 612 00:31:18,754 --> 00:31:23,194 Bianchi continued to take unnecessary risks. 613 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:25,986 At the time, LAPD had a program 614 00:31:26,055 --> 00:31:29,185 to take citizens on a ride-along with police. 615 00:31:29,257 --> 00:31:32,357 Bianchi, who always wanted to be in law enforcement, 616 00:31:32,458 --> 00:31:34,058 took them up on it. 617 00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:36,288 Schlesinger: Buono, who's very street smart 618 00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,489 and knows you can only take it so far, 619 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,989 said to Bianchi, "You got to get out of here, 620 00:31:41,059 --> 00:31:42,659 and if you don't I'm going to kill you, 621 00:31:42,761 --> 00:31:45,661 because you're gonna get me implicated in this." 622 00:31:45,761 --> 00:31:50,561 So then Bianchi moved to Washington state. 623 00:31:50,562 --> 00:31:52,402 De Reyes: After moving to Washington, 624 00:31:52,463 --> 00:31:54,603 Bianchi was arrested for the murders 625 00:31:54,664 --> 00:31:57,564 of Diane Wilder and Karen Mandic. 626 00:31:57,665 --> 00:31:59,895 And then he started to talk, 627 00:31:59,998 --> 00:32:03,998 fully implicating Angelo Buono in the L.A. murders. 628 00:32:04,065 --> 00:32:05,595 Davis: Finally, detectives in L.A. 629 00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:08,267 were ready to move against Buono. 630 00:32:08,267 --> 00:32:10,967 We immediately deployed our tactical team. 631 00:32:10,967 --> 00:32:12,567 We had placed some snipers on the roof 632 00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:13,799 of an apartment building 633 00:32:13,902 --> 00:32:16,372 behind Angelo Buono's upholstery shop. 634 00:32:16,469 --> 00:32:18,169 We had secured the area. 635 00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:24,170 ♪♪ 636 00:32:24,170 --> 00:32:25,670 When he walked out in handcuffs, 637 00:32:25,671 --> 00:32:29,611 I looked at him and I thought, the arrogance, 638 00:32:29,673 --> 00:32:34,573 the confidence, the demeanor, the evilness that he possessed. 639 00:32:34,674 --> 00:32:37,514 ♪♪ 640 00:32:37,575 --> 00:32:39,865 I was relieved. Finally, we've got him. 641 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:43,575 We get to do something about it. 642 00:32:43,676 --> 00:32:46,076 Everyone was getting ready for Buono's trial 643 00:32:46,076 --> 00:32:50,776 when Bianchi's life took a turn no one expected. 644 00:32:50,778 --> 00:32:52,378 McEachran: Veronica Compton was a woman 645 00:32:52,378 --> 00:32:55,408 who likened herself as a playwright, 646 00:32:55,479 --> 00:32:58,079 and she wanted to interview Bianchi. 647 00:32:58,179 --> 00:33:02,279 Renner: She'd written a play called, "The Mutilated Cutter," 648 00:33:02,381 --> 00:33:05,421 which is just one heck of a name for anything. 649 00:33:05,482 --> 00:33:07,922 And she approached Bianchi in prison 650 00:33:08,015 --> 00:33:10,775 and wanted to talk to him to do some sort of research. 651 00:33:10,783 --> 00:33:12,183 Well, one thing led to another. 652 00:33:12,183 --> 00:33:15,483 She became romantically involved with Bianchi. 653 00:33:15,584 --> 00:33:17,224 And apparently, they fell in love. 654 00:33:17,285 --> 00:33:18,515 Renner: She's attractive, 655 00:33:18,585 --> 00:33:21,175 But the thing that really attracts Ken is, 656 00:33:21,185 --> 00:33:24,185 in this screenplay that she's written, 657 00:33:24,186 --> 00:33:27,086 it revolves around a female serial killer, 658 00:33:27,086 --> 00:33:31,586 and she lays a false trail for investigators 659 00:33:31,688 --> 00:33:35,318 by taking the semen of innocent men 660 00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:39,019 and leaving it at the scene to throw the police off. 661 00:33:39,089 --> 00:33:42,619 The wheels start turning in Ken's head. 662 00:33:42,691 --> 00:33:45,191 Bianchi and Compton came up with a plan 663 00:33:45,191 --> 00:33:47,031 that they thought would convince authorities 664 00:33:47,091 --> 00:33:50,291 that they had the wrong man, and that 665 00:33:50,293 --> 00:33:54,093 the real Hillside Strangler was on the loose. 666 00:33:54,193 --> 00:33:57,133 Renner: Never mind that he's already confessed to the crimes, 667 00:33:57,194 --> 00:33:58,934 but she's going to do this thing for him. 668 00:33:59,028 --> 00:34:01,298 De Reyes: He gave her a condom of semen 669 00:34:01,296 --> 00:34:03,896 to put on the victim so that they could say, 670 00:34:03,897 --> 00:34:07,827 "Hey, there's, there's somebody else doing those crimes." 671 00:34:07,931 --> 00:34:10,401 McEachran: She came to Bellingham and had a disguise 672 00:34:10,398 --> 00:34:11,798 on making her look pregnant, 673 00:34:11,898 --> 00:34:16,228 had a long wig on, and went to a local bar here 674 00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:19,800 and encountered a young woman whose name was Kim Breed. 675 00:34:19,801 --> 00:34:22,101 And they started drinking together, 676 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:26,740 and Veronica Compton invited her back to her hotel room. 677 00:34:26,803 --> 00:34:29,043 When they got there, Veronica indicated 678 00:34:29,102 --> 00:34:31,242 she wanted to just change her clothes, 679 00:34:31,304 --> 00:34:34,704 and went in the bathroom and came back out 680 00:34:34,804 --> 00:34:37,844 and was able to get behind this young woman 681 00:34:37,938 --> 00:34:39,638 and put a ligature around her neck 682 00:34:39,706 --> 00:34:42,706 and started choking her, trying to kill her. 683 00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:53,209 She was a very strong woman. 684 00:34:53,208 --> 00:34:56,038 Was able to get the ligature off her neck, 685 00:34:56,109 --> 00:34:58,339 and knocked Veronica Compton down 686 00:34:58,410 --> 00:35:02,250 and Veronica Compton ran out of the room. 687 00:35:02,311 --> 00:35:06,111 Davis: It wasn't long before police caught up with Veronica Compton. 688 00:35:06,212 --> 00:35:10,052 I charged her with attempted murder in the first degree. 689 00:35:10,113 --> 00:35:14,553 Veronica, did you attempt to murder Kim Breed? 690 00:35:14,614 --> 00:35:16,514 No. 691 00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:20,415 It was supposed to be a game. She was in on it. 692 00:35:20,416 --> 00:35:23,546 The jury wasn't buying Veronica Compton's claim. 693 00:35:23,617 --> 00:35:26,247 She was convicted in a jury trial. 694 00:35:26,317 --> 00:35:30,217 Renner: Veronica Compton does spend 22 years in prison for this. 695 00:35:30,218 --> 00:35:33,048 The whole thing was just bizarre. 696 00:35:33,118 --> 00:35:36,118 I think that's the best word that I can think of. 697 00:35:36,219 --> 00:35:39,049 With the Compton distraction out of the way, 698 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,020 prosecutors were now concentrating on getting justice 699 00:35:43,021 --> 00:35:45,621 for the victims of the Hillside Stranglers. 700 00:35:45,723 --> 00:35:51,323 ♪♪ 701 00:35:54,058 --> 00:35:55,958 Reporter: Buono wore a jail uniform 702 00:35:56,024 --> 00:35:58,634 to and from the criminal courts building. 703 00:35:58,693 --> 00:36:00,833 At that time, we had a system in Los Angeles 704 00:36:00,926 --> 00:36:06,426 where judges would appoint attorneys to represent someone, 705 00:36:06,428 --> 00:36:10,228 so the first person who was appointed was Gerry Chaleff. 706 00:36:10,228 --> 00:36:13,358 Gerry was looking for somebody in particular. 707 00:36:13,429 --> 00:36:15,529 He wanted to have a female. 708 00:36:15,530 --> 00:36:20,530 He knew a woman was going to be sitting next to Angelo Buono. 709 00:36:20,532 --> 00:36:25,032 And here's a man that's charged with raping 710 00:36:25,031 --> 00:36:29,331 and torturing and killing 10 women, 711 00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:33,433 and if he can get along with what appears to be a nice woman 712 00:36:33,435 --> 00:36:35,265 for a lengthy period of time, 713 00:36:35,335 --> 00:36:37,635 and the jury is watching everything, 714 00:36:37,735 --> 00:36:41,335 then maybe he's not that bad after all. 715 00:36:41,336 --> 00:36:43,236 The district attorney at the time 716 00:36:43,337 --> 00:36:46,537 realizes that Bianchi lies constantly. 717 00:36:46,638 --> 00:36:49,038 And so the district attorney is saying, 718 00:36:49,038 --> 00:36:51,838 "I can't go to court and charge Buono 719 00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:53,839 when my star witness is Bianchi, 720 00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:56,140 who can't tell the truth about anything." 721 00:36:56,139 --> 00:37:00,239 Mader: And so the district attorney of Los Angeles 722 00:37:00,241 --> 00:37:03,641 at the time went into court to dismiss the case. 723 00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:07,840 And the judge, Ron George, said, "Mm, wait a minute here. 724 00:37:07,944 --> 00:37:13,754 I'm not necessarily going to just on the spot here 725 00:37:13,845 --> 00:37:15,345 dismiss the case. 726 00:37:15,445 --> 00:37:17,075 I need more information." 727 00:37:17,145 --> 00:37:20,475 I would say in over 99% of the cases, 728 00:37:20,547 --> 00:37:23,877 one would not second guess a prosecutor, 729 00:37:23,980 --> 00:37:27,480 but in this case, I felt obliged to. 730 00:37:27,548 --> 00:37:31,078 He picked up on a lot of scientific investigations, 731 00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:33,718 reports, particularly the fiber evidence, 732 00:37:33,717 --> 00:37:38,247 that appeared to connect Buono and Buono's house 733 00:37:38,351 --> 00:37:41,751 to the murdered young women. 734 00:37:41,852 --> 00:37:45,292 De Reyes: So they appointed a couple of attorneys to handle the case, 735 00:37:45,353 --> 00:37:47,653 and these guys were much more gung-ho. 736 00:37:47,754 --> 00:37:51,654 These guys were much more battle-tested, you could tell. 737 00:37:51,722 --> 00:37:54,562 And I think that Gerald Chaleff and Katherine Mader 738 00:37:54,655 --> 00:37:56,585 had their hands full with these two. 739 00:37:56,656 --> 00:38:02,886 ♪♪ 740 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:05,090 Davis: The trial went on and on. 741 00:38:05,157 --> 00:38:08,087 In fact, it was the longest trial in Los Angeles County 742 00:38:08,157 --> 00:38:09,657 at that time. 743 00:38:09,726 --> 00:38:12,726 De Reyes: The prosecution was determined to use Bianchi 744 00:38:12,727 --> 00:38:13,987 as their star witness. 745 00:38:14,059 --> 00:38:16,289 He'd already pleaded guilty to the two murderers 746 00:38:16,361 --> 00:38:20,461 in Washington state and the five in L.A. 747 00:38:20,462 --> 00:38:24,002 The defense countered that it was impossible for Bianchi 748 00:38:24,062 --> 00:38:25,802 to tell a consistent story. 749 00:38:25,863 --> 00:38:27,603 Chaleff: I think he's a liar. 750 00:38:27,664 --> 00:38:30,734 He's a sophisticated con man who will use anything 751 00:38:30,732 --> 00:38:33,262 and anybody to get what he wants. 752 00:38:33,264 --> 00:38:36,674 Perhaps I had convinced myself 753 00:38:36,733 --> 00:38:41,303 that we really had a shot of getting an acquittal here 754 00:38:41,367 --> 00:38:43,797 as to all the murders. 755 00:38:43,868 --> 00:38:50,568 ♪♪ 756 00:38:50,669 --> 00:38:54,299 The convictions came in piecemeal. 757 00:38:54,370 --> 00:38:59,370 The first verdict that the jurors reached 758 00:38:59,372 --> 00:39:03,372 was with the victim Yolanda Washington, 759 00:39:03,373 --> 00:39:07,473 and the jurors came back fairly quickly 760 00:39:07,574 --> 00:39:09,674 with a not guilty verdict. 761 00:39:09,742 --> 00:39:15,382 I think that must have freaked out the prosecution. 762 00:39:15,476 --> 00:39:19,506 And then for the subsequent nine victims, 763 00:39:19,577 --> 00:39:22,507 they convicted him of everything. 764 00:39:22,578 --> 00:39:24,508 Reporter: Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Ronald George 765 00:39:24,578 --> 00:39:26,748 lamented that he had no legal choice 766 00:39:26,746 --> 00:39:30,576 but to follow the jury's recommendation of life sentences 767 00:39:30,579 --> 00:39:33,279 instead of the death penalty. 768 00:39:33,380 --> 00:39:35,280 George: Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi 769 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,480 terrorized this city for several months, 770 00:39:37,581 --> 00:39:39,521 as Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi 771 00:39:39,582 --> 00:39:44,122 slowly squeezed out of their victims their last breath of air 772 00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:46,922 and their promise of a future life. 773 00:39:47,017 --> 00:39:48,317 And all for what? 774 00:39:48,384 --> 00:39:50,384 The momentary, sadistic thrill 775 00:39:50,485 --> 00:39:54,485 of enjoying a brief, perverted sexual satisfaction 776 00:39:54,486 --> 00:39:57,746 and the venting of their hatred of women. 777 00:39:57,754 --> 00:40:02,324 ♪♪ 778 00:40:02,388 --> 00:40:05,888 Davis: Buono was serving his sentence in 2002 779 00:40:05,889 --> 00:40:08,389 when he met a sudden end. 780 00:40:08,389 --> 00:40:11,389 De Reyes: Angelo Buono died of a heart attack, 781 00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:13,320 which was a very merciful thing 782 00:40:13,391 --> 00:40:16,291 to happen to a very unmerciful individual. 783 00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:20,590 ♪♪ 784 00:40:20,593 --> 00:40:21,793 McEachran: Mr. Bianchi has filed 785 00:40:21,793 --> 00:40:24,133 a number of lawsuits and appeals. 786 00:40:24,192 --> 00:40:25,532 He has said a number of times 787 00:40:25,594 --> 00:40:27,094 that the real killer is still there. 788 00:40:27,093 --> 00:40:30,533 That's all he has to do, is try to argue these things, 789 00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:34,025 and it's just crazy at this point. 790 00:40:34,129 --> 00:40:35,999 Lee: Bianchi's never gonna get out on parole, 791 00:40:35,996 --> 00:40:37,286 so he's just stuck there. 792 00:40:37,295 --> 00:40:39,395 And I think that's a good place for ... 793 00:40:39,497 --> 00:40:43,597 those are the kind of people that belong in jail. 794 00:40:43,598 --> 00:40:46,598 Davis: Sadly, cases like this, 795 00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:50,799 it's another attack on our fortress of feeling safe. 796 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,500 For those of us who lived through 797 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:55,400 the Hillside Strangler case, we'll never forget it. 798 00:40:55,501 --> 00:40:57,701 Renner: There are ripples from these crimes 799 00:40:57,769 --> 00:41:01,099 that go on literally for generations. 800 00:41:01,102 --> 00:41:03,142 It's the fabric of the universe, 801 00:41:03,202 --> 00:41:06,302 and that's what each one of these victims represents to me, 802 00:41:06,303 --> 00:41:08,703 just a tear in the fabric of the universe 803 00:41:08,772 --> 00:41:11,612 that never gets put right again. 804 00:41:11,606 --> 00:41:15,036 It did change the way people looked at the city, 805 00:41:15,105 --> 00:41:16,435 the way they lived. 806 00:41:16,506 --> 00:41:19,206 That's what serial killers did for Los Angeles. 807 00:41:19,206 --> 00:41:22,606 It set us up for this kind of paranoid lifestyle 808 00:41:22,708 --> 00:41:25,108 that we still sort of live now. 809 00:41:25,108 --> 00:41:27,038 ♪♪ 810 00:41:27,108 --> 00:41:29,938 Meredith: I have seen a lot of horrific crimes in my time, 811 00:41:30,043 --> 00:41:33,013 but I cannot imagine anything being as horrific 812 00:41:33,011 --> 00:41:35,611 as what occurred to these women and these girls. 813 00:41:35,711 --> 00:41:37,151 I've dealt with some evil people, 814 00:41:37,211 --> 00:41:42,151 but nobody as evil and dark as Buono and Bianchi. 815 00:41:42,212 --> 00:41:46,352 Kenneth Bianchi will be eligible for parole again in 2025, 816 00:41:46,414 --> 00:41:48,614 the same year he turns 74. 817 00:41:48,615 --> 00:41:51,205 Sadly, while his name still generates headlines, 818 00:41:51,214 --> 00:41:54,824 the identities of his victims remains largely unknown, 819 00:41:54,916 --> 00:41:56,916 except to their friends and loved ones. 820 00:41:57,017 --> 00:41:58,217 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 821 00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,016 Thanks for watching. 822 00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:03,817 Goodnight. 65698

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