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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 ♪♪ 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Milam: Me and Ricky were best friends. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,000 He was just a normal kid like everybody. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 We went to school together. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 He was very smart. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 God-fearing person. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 He studied the Bible. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 He was a good, good student. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,000 And then certain things started going wrong with Ricky, 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 and he started doing bad things. 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 He was doing something very wrong. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,000 My belief ... you live by the sword, you die by the sword, 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 and that's just the way it is. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:49,000 ♪♪ 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:57,000 ♪♪ 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:05,000 ♪♪ 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Welcome to "Very Scary People." 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,000 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 The media called it a rampage. 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,000 There was a serial killer on the loose in California, 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 random attacks throughout the spring and summer of 1985. 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 No one felt safe. 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Police described his actions as savage. 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 He broke into people's homes, stole anything of value, 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,000 then raped, beat, and murdered those he found inside. 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 He had been linked to at least 15 murders, 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,000 from children to the elderly, 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 male and female, wealthy and poor. 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Now investigators had a promising lead, 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 one that would finally end 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 the Night Stalker's reign of terror. 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Here's part two of "The Night Stalker: I Will Be Avenged." 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,000 ♪♪ 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,000 ♪♪ 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Reporter: The victim ... her throat had been slashed. 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,000 He found her horribly mutilated and murdered. 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Reporter: It appears the suspect got in through an open window. 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 He stole a lot of jewelry 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,000 and graduated to these horrible crimes of violence. 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,000 It was a night of sheer terror. 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 She begged him not to shoot her. 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 It was an isolated murder here and an isolated one there, 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,000 but then, that summer, it was just constant. 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Reporter: Five murders and three sexual attacks 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 in the past eight weeks. 46 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 This man may be linked to at least six homicides. 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Reporter #2: Seven bodies beaten, stabbed, or shot. 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Reporter #3: 33 cases, including 14 murders, 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,000 have definitely been linked to the Walk-In Killer. 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,000 The killer leaves the pentagram, the mark of the devil. 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,000 He was openly bringing a Satanic aspect to the attacks. 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,000 I'm nervous. 53 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 You know, I'm nervous for my family, 54 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 nervous for my friends and neighbors. 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Reporter: 29-year-old Bill Carns was shot in the head. 56 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Yochelson: But what was different about this incident ... 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 there was a young man who lived a couple blocks away. 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Jenkins: He spotted a suspicious man, 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,000 and he is able to get a partial license plate number. 60 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Jordan: The license plate matched 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,000 with a 1976 orange Toyota station wagon. 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 And so it was one of the best leads that they got 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 through the whole investigation. 64 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Martin: It affords law enforcement the ability to issue 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,000 an all-points bulletin for the orange station wagon. 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:45,000 ♪♪ 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 And, ultimately, that station wagon turns up 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 abandoned in a parking lot. 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 So the police ... they watch the car for 24 hours, 70 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 and the driver never showed up. 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Eventually, they brought it in to be processed for evidence. 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Martin: The forensic examination of the car 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 helped reveal the presence of a latent fingerprint 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 off the rearview mirror of the car. 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Yochelson: There was a brand-new technology 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 that was just coming online. 77 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 It was called the Automated Fingerprint 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Identification System, or AFIS, 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,000 and it's computerized technology where a fingerprint is scanned. 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,000 It goes through a database. and compared. 81 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 The computer spits out possible matches, 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000 and then there's a physical match. 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Martin: He'd been arrested in December of '83 for auto theft, 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 and that was on file. 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000 That's where the make occurred. 86 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 And it came in just in time 87 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,000 to help them identify the Night Stalker. 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Block: The individual who we believe is responsible 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 for these crimes ... 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 a man by the name of Richard Ramirez. 91 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Richard Ramirez was a tall, thin, dark-haired, dark-eyed, 92 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Hispanic male with rotting teeth, 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,000 a 25-year-old described drifter from El Paso, Texas. 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Martin: There was a booking photo, 95 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 and his photograph was published. 96 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Block: At this very moment, 97 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,000 an alert is going out to all law enforcement agencies 98 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 to be on the lookout for this individual, 99 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,000 who is to be considered armed and extremely dangerous. 100 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Jordan: And now police all over California 101 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 are on the hunt for Richard Ramirez. 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,000 The police were also staking out the Greyhound bus station 103 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 where he was known to frequent. 104 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 So he gets off the bus, and the first thing that he sees 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 is a newspaper stand with his picture 106 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 on the front of "L.A. Times." 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Big picture. 108 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Vidal: And believe me, exactly what 109 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 that booking photo looked like 110 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,000 was exactly the way he looked. 111 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 He's surprised when the crowd recognizes him. 112 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 The jig is up. 113 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Reporter #3: Walk-In Killer suspect Richard Ramirez 114 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 had just discovered he was a wanted man 115 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,000 and desperately tried to make a run for it. 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Hernandez: He starts running. He gets into a bus. 117 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 People recognize him in the bus. He jumps out the bus. 118 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,000 He fled on foot and tried to steal a car. 119 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,000 I was assigned to my car, 4A57, with my partner. 120 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 We handle a radio call. [Siren wails] 121 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 We receive a broadcast over the air 122 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 of a possible Night Stalker sighting. 123 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 [Siren wails] 124 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Hernandez: He tries to hijack this old classic Mustang. 125 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000 You don't do that in East L.A. 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Reporter #3: He chased after the suspect after he claims 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Ramirez was trying to steal his red Mustang. 128 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 And even though he says he was being threatened with a gun, 129 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Pinon fought that suspect anyway. 130 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Then I got him by the neck. 131 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Reporter #3: Got him by the neck, and then what? 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Then we struggled back and forth over the car. 133 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 During this time, we're hearing broadcasts of requests 134 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 for additional units to respond. 135 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 The air unit, police helicopter, 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 was requested to follow any possible suspect. 137 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,000 He was last seen traveling Eastbound on 8th Street. 138 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Yochelson: They chased him physically. 139 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 A number of the other neighbors got involved. 140 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 [Siren wails] 141 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Hernandez: And people were just yelling, "El matón," 142 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,000 "The killer," and "The Night Stalker." 143 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 [Siren wails] 144 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,000 And I remember going up on Indiana to Percy Street, 145 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,000 and we see people pointing down the direction 146 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 where this person was going. 147 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 So then it was a mob. It was a mob scene. 148 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Then Ramirez attempted to carjack another vehicle. 149 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Big mistake. 150 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Reporter #3: Saw another man hitting his wife 151 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 while pulling her out of her gold Granada. 152 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 He hit her? Yes, he tried to ... 153 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Where'd he hit her? [Speaking Spanish] 154 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Oh, he hit her right here, all over right here. 155 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 What was she thinking? Was she scared? 156 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Yes. 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Reporter #3: That's when Torres grabbed the pipe 158 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 and began hitting that man. 159 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Vidal: When I exited my police car, 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 he was bleeding from the back of his head. 161 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 I remember that. 162 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Ultimately, a group of folks realize who it Is 163 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 and wind up grabbing onto Ramirez. 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 At that point, he was dead meat. 165 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 My concern was I wanted to remove him 166 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,000 from that hostile situation that he was in at the time. 167 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,000 He was hit over the head with, like, a copper rod 168 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,000 they used to ground these telephone poles. 169 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,000 I'm sure he was happy to see the cops show up. 170 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Vidal: He was on the grass parkway of the street, 171 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 south side of Hubbard, and he was laying there, 172 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 and the deputy had just rolled him over. 173 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 We requested a rescue ambulance to come. 174 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,000 You look at the media coverage of the time, 175 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 you'll that he's bandaged 176 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 because he was struck on the head during the arrest. 177 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 And these citizens were heroes. 178 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 They caught the Night Stalker. 179 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:40,000 ♪♪ 180 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Walls: We're happy to report that the suspect 181 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 that we have in custody is Richard Ramirez, 182 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 otherwise known as the Night Stalker. 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Vidal: He's handcuffed, hands behind his back. 184 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 When I was talking to him, I felt just different. 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 You might call it Satanic. 186 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,000 I mean, he just looked the presence of evil before you. 187 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:12,000 He was a drifter. He was in Arizona for a while. 188 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Came to California for unknown reasons. 189 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Started out as a burglar 190 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,000 and graduated to these horrible crimes of violence 191 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,000 and the Satanism, which my personal view, 192 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,000 was an affect on his part to stir up notoriety. 193 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 The Night Stalker was now in custody, 194 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 but the big question was, 195 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,000 what happened to this person that created this monster? 196 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Ricardo Leyva Ramirez was born February 29, 1960, 197 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 in El Paso, Texas. 198 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Hancock: Richard's mother worked in a boot factory, 199 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 and his father worked for the Santa Fe railroad. 200 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Richard was the youngest of five kids. 201 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Milam: We went to school together. 202 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 He was very smart. 203 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 God-fearing person. 204 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:12,000 And then he started doing bad things. 205 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Hernandez: When we interviewed some people, 206 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,000 people were saying that he was, like, a little petty thief. 207 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,000 And he didn't have a very good reputation. 208 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Hernandez: We found out through medical records 209 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:29,000 that he had had many seizures in the sixth, seventh grade, 210 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 and we had a doctor examine him. 211 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,000 And they did some scans on his brain, 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 and they found some abnormalities. 213 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,000 There was something wrong with him. 214 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Maybe he was epileptic, but he never got an official diagnosis. 215 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Richard Ramirez also had a very disturbed childhood. 216 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,000 He had what can be considered now a very abusive father. 217 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 The father was very authoritarian. 218 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 He would not hesitate to use the whip 219 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,000 and, you know, belt him. 220 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 He would go and steal things. 221 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,000 He would get, you know, caught by his dad, 222 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,000 and part of that corrective measure that he would use, 223 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 he would tie him up at a cemetery 224 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:29,000 that was right next door to where they used to live. 225 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Put him on crosses, tied up, overnight. 226 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,000 So he had to endure those things very early age. 227 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 We're talking about when he was 12, 14 years old. 228 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Jordan: Richard's father was clearly an influence, 229 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,000 but many believe that it was another family member 230 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,000 that may have done the most damage. 231 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Martin: Part of Ramirez's childhood 232 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 specific to his teen years 233 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 had to deal with a cousin, 234 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 a Vietnam veteran who had shared with him 235 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,000 some of the details of war, of combat, 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 of some of the killings that he had witnessed. 237 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 He taught him how to use the knife 238 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 and how to cut throats. 239 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Milam: Ricky was very, very scared of Mike, 240 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,000 and he had panic attacks. 241 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,000 He told me how much he despised Mike. 242 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Schecter: Mike, who had all these tales 243 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 about Vietnamese women he had raped and killed 244 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 and Polaroid photographs 245 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,000 which he would show young Ramirez 246 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,000 of decapitated heads of women he had raped and then beheaded, 247 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:44,000 and who really schooled him in how to kill stealthily. 248 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Sometimes gruesome pictures put images in your mind. 249 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 And they did have a great impact on Ricky. 250 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 ♪♪ 251 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,000 There's no question that his criminal behavior later in life 252 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,000 reflects lots of sex offenses that are violent, 253 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 that involve torture, 254 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000 that involve horrific, brutal acts. 255 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,000 So for him, there was a clear fusion 256 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,000 between lust and cruelty. 257 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Hancock: When Richard was 13, 258 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,000 he was present when Mike got into an argument with his wife 259 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,000 and shot her in the face and killed her. 260 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Dietz: Ramirez shot many of his victims in the face. 261 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 That is not a common place to shoot people. 262 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,000 And yet he is shooting victims in the face 263 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,000 disproportionately often, 264 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,000 just like his cousin Mike shot the first homicide victim 265 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,000 Ramirez ever witnessed in the face. 266 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Hancock: After he shot his wife, he went to trial, 267 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,000 and he was found not guilty by reason of insanity. 268 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 He was given a lighter sentence, 269 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 and he actually, after he finished his sentence, 270 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 came back into Richard's life. 271 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,000 It seems like a pivotal, harrowing moment 272 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,000 in this young kid's development. 273 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Jordan: Hardened by his early experiences, 274 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Richard became increasingly drawn to macabre things. 275 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Richard took to sleeping in cemeteries. 276 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 He would wear a lot of black clothes 277 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,000 and go into what you can perceive as a persona 278 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,000 of a gothic, evil night marauder. 279 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 He started with marijuana and then later on 280 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,000 went into heavy drugs like acid. 281 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 He was having epileptic seizures. 282 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Coupled with the drugs and, you know, 283 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 all that stuff, it's a combination. 284 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,000 He explained it to me that, "You don't care about nobody, 285 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,000 not even yourself," and when you come to that stage, 286 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 it's a very, very dangerous stage. 287 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Hancock: He didn't go to school much. 288 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,000 He started hanging out with a rough gang. 289 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Richard dropped out of high school when he was 14. 290 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 He got in trouble with the law. 291 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 And once that happened, 292 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,000 I guess he decided not to go back to school. 293 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:29,000 And then certain things started going wrong with Ricky there. 294 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:36,000 ♪♪ 295 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Jordan: After Ramirez was finally captured, 296 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 the arresting officers said that he was very polite, 297 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 but he refused to cooperate. 298 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Yochelson: The sheriffs came and transported him later 299 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000 to the county jail, where he was booked. 300 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 When he was arrested, his arrest had led to a locker 301 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,000 at the Greyhound bus station. 302 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,000 There was a trove of evidence recovered in that bus locker ... 303 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,000 stolen property that was linked to the victims. 304 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,000 The guns weren't recovered, 305 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 but ammunition that had been in those guns were recovered 306 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 and linked to Ramirez. 307 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,000 The charges were filed within 48 hours, as required by law. 308 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Jordan: Richard Ramirez was charged with 14 murders, 309 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:21,000 19 burglaries, 7 rapes, and a slew of other charges. 310 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Richard was arrested in '85, 311 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,000 and it was three years before he went on trial. 312 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 He came to court wearing sunglasses. 313 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 He changed from a really ugly, evil-looking guy to a rock star. 314 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:47,000 ♪♪ 315 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Aw, you ain't no reporter. 316 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Jenkins: Richard Ramirez was finally behind bars, 317 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,000 and Californians could finally sleep at night 318 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,000 after a year of being on edge. 319 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Now came the monumental task 320 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000 of bringing the Night Stalker to justice. 321 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Judge: All right, this again is case number A771272, 322 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 the People of the State of California vs. 323 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Richard Ramirez, the defendant. 324 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 There were tremendous challenges just putting the case together. 325 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Martin: You've got all these agencies 326 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 that you've got to coordinate. 327 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,000 You've got all these victims that you've got to care for. 328 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 This was a monumental effort, 329 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 and then you add to it that this is a capital murder case. 330 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,000 The preparations are absolutely incredible. 331 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Yochelson: He was initially represented 332 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,000 by two appointed members 333 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000 of the L.A. County Public Defender's office. 334 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Great attorneys. 335 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000 He had excellent representation. 336 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,000 But for whatever reason, Ramirez's family 337 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,000 chose to fire the Public Defender's office 338 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,000 and bring in a series of private counsel. 339 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,000 First issue that came up was who was paying for this defense, 340 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000 because mounting a capital defense under any circumstances 341 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,000 is tremendously expensive. 342 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Hernandez: And then he got Mr. Gallegos 343 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 for a couple of weeks. 344 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Woman: My understanding, Mr. Ramirez ... 345 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 that you would like to have Mr. Gallegos 346 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 as your attorney. Is that correct? 347 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Yes. 348 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Mr. Gallegos apparently had offered him 349 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 some deals with movies. 350 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Jordan: In the '80s, some serial killers 351 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 were treated like celebrities, 352 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 and the media outlets would actually compete 353 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 to get the rights to their stories. 354 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Ramirez was in that group. 355 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Linedecker: He did what a lot of people like him do. 356 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000 He suddenly decided that, "Gee, I'm a celebrity, 357 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,000 and I'm going to milk this for everything I can milk it for." 358 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,000 Yochelson: There was some indication 359 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 that there was a book deal in the works, 360 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 which poses all kinds of ethical issues, 361 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 so the judge actually appointed another lawyer 362 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,000 just to advise Ramirez as to the possible issues 363 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 of financing his defense through a book deal, 364 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 and Ramirez refused to talk to that lawyer. 365 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Ultimately, Daniel and Arturo Hernandez came on the case. 366 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 They're not related, even though they have the same last name. 367 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 The family has retained us officially, 368 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 and as far as we're concerned, 369 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,000 we are the attorneys for Mr. Ramirez. 370 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Hernandez: We ended up with the case, 371 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 and it made a big difference, absolutely, 372 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 knowing the culture, bilingualism, 373 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 because, you know, in El Paso, we speak both languages. 374 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 We seem to get along very well. 375 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Hernandez: He was very impressed that I unshackled him and not ... 376 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000 you know, we broke the ice, so he hired us. 377 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 He signed the substitution of attorneys that need to be filed. 378 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 But we were not welcome in L.A. 379 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,000 We were really in danger. 380 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,000 I was working as a paralegal with Arturo Hernandez, 381 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 who is now my husband. 382 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,000 The day that Judge Soper let them into the case, 383 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,000 I received a phone call late in the evening, 384 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000 and they said, "We know who you are. 385 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,000 We are the family of one of the victims in the Ramirez case, 386 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 and we're going to kill you." 387 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000 So I immediately hung up on the person 388 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,000 and hightailed it out of the office. 389 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Yochelson: And there was an issue that was brought up 390 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000 as to whether or not they were qualified 391 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 to handle a case like this. 392 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Both had only been attorneys for about five years 393 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,000 and apparently had never handled a capital case. 394 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Jordan: At preliminary hearings, defense and prosecution 395 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000 would get into shouting matches with each other. 396 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Woman: They're matters of public record, sir. 397 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,000 There's presently pending in that court ... 398 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 These liars. 399 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Judge Tynan and I did not get along, to say the least. 400 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000 He was always mocking us. 401 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,000 He, to me, did not have what they call judicial temperament. 402 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000 He would get pissed off. 403 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Yochelson: Daniel and Arturo Hernandez made statements 404 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 that the prosecution considered 405 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 were unsupported by the evidence ... 406 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,000 flat out lying or going for publicity. 407 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Phil Halpin, who was lead counsel, 408 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,000 lead prosecutor ... very knowledgeable, 409 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,000 knows how to handle a case, but there was really contention 410 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,000 between the Hernandezes and Phil. 411 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 And I think a lot of that was just natural, 412 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,000 given the nature of the case and the stakes that were involved. 413 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 And in the middle of all of this chaos was Richard Ramirez. 414 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Reporter: Richard Ramirez came into court for the final day 415 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000 of his pre-trial hearing flashing the same grin 416 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 he displayed during testimony 417 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,000 about the grisly details of the Night Stalker killings. 418 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 He kept smiling as Judge James Nelson 419 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 ruled there is sufficient evidence 420 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 to bind the 26-year-old drifter over for trial 421 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 on 14 counts of murder 422 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 plus 36 other counts of attempted murder, 423 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 rape, robbery, and burglary. 424 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Yochelson: He was arraigned and immediately 425 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,000 took on the persona of the Night Stalker 426 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,000 as he left court, and the circus began. 427 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Reporter: Ramirez revealed a pentagram, 428 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 a symbol of devil worship, on his left palm 429 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 and later shouted out 430 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 what most observers agreed was "Hail Satan." 431 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Hail Satan. 432 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Aguilar-Hernandez: The first time that I spoke to 433 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Richard Ramirez on the phone, 434 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,000 it was ... it was very scary, very scary, 435 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,000 because I knew what he had represented on his hand 436 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 and all the Satan hype that had happened 437 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,000 after he had done that in open court. 438 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Yochelson: I truly believe that 439 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 all of this was simply him acting out 440 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,000 and wanting to play the role of the celebrity serial killer ... 441 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,000 that he's the Night Stalker, he should be feared. 442 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:50,000 ♪♪ 443 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,000 ♪♪ 444 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 445 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,000 On August 30, 1988, almost three years after his arrest, 446 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,000 the Night Stalker finally stands trial in Los Angeles. 447 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,000 But the man who terrified the nation for more than a year 448 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 isn't finished yet. 449 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Instead, he begins a bizarre new chapter 450 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 that has some wondering 451 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000 if the Night Stalker could escape justice after all. 452 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Linedecker: It was one of the biggest trials 453 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 in the history of L.A. 454 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000 The courtroom was packed, 455 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 and you had to get there hours ahead of time 456 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,000 to even have a chance to get inside the courtroom. 457 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Richard really loved the attention. 458 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Jordan: Ramirez, who had spent months in the shadows, 459 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,000 now seemed to relish his time in the spotlight. 460 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Hernandez: We got him some Armani suits 461 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 donated from Goodwill. 462 00:24:52,000 --> 00:25:00,000 He changed from a really ugly, evil-looking guy to a rock star. 463 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,000 And shades, the teeth ... 464 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 you know, yeah, we got his teeth fixed, 465 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,000 so he became a very well-looking guy. 466 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 His transition was just another part 467 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,000 of the kind of circus atmosphere that the case was taking on. 468 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000 It's almost what you expected 469 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,000 because he just seemed to be enjoying his role 470 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000 as the defendant, the star of this case. 471 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 The gratification he was getting, he was being fed, 472 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,000 so he said, "Wow," you know, "I'm getting all this fame now." 473 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000 And, unfortunately, he got all his glory. 474 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Aguilar-Hernandez: He had a very powerful energy, 475 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 but it wasn't a good energy. 476 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 It was something other than good. 477 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:52,000 It was just difficult to explain what you felt. 478 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Man: Case number A771272, Richard Ramirez. 479 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Ramirez's father took the stand and tried to alibi him. 480 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Hancock: Julian Ramirez had testified 481 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000 that Richard was at a family gathering in El Paso 482 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000 at the same time that were several attacks in Los Angeles. 483 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Which would eliminate him as a suspect 484 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 because if Ramirez didn't commit these, 485 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 he didn't commit the others either. 486 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,000 The prosecution brought me in as a rebuttal witness 487 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 to the father's testimony. 488 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,000 I interviewed Julian Ramirez in 1985. 489 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000 He said to me, 490 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000 "I have not seen him for two or three years." 491 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Yochelson: Ramirez periodically acted up between trial ... 492 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 or acted out. 493 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 [Speaking indistinctly] 494 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Parasites. 495 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Yochelson: He came to court wearing sunglasses. 496 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Judge Tynan ordered him to take off the sunglasses, 497 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,000 and he said, "No," in a very loud voice. 498 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Security in the courtroom was increased 499 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,000 after Ramirez threatened 500 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000 to have an unidentified friend smuggle a gun in to him 501 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000 so that he could kill the prosecution team. 502 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,000 They had to erect metal detectors, 503 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 blocking the entrance to the courtroom, 504 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,000 and then Ramirez was brought in heavily guarded and shackled. 505 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 There were rumors about everything ... 506 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,000 he was gonna bring in a gun ... so we were frisked all the time. 507 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Came with the territory, I guess. 508 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 There was something that happened in the lock-up 509 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000 where the bailiffs took him to the ground. 510 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Two officers that were martial arts, 511 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,000 ex-Navy SEALs ... they were watching him. 512 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000 They said that he went like this, 513 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,000 "I'm gonna cut your head off," threatening the witness. 514 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,000 That causes a whole, you know, bar-fight-like scenario. 515 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,000 They grabbed him, they drag him, and beat the crap out of him. 516 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Jordan: With so much drama happening in the courtroom, 517 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,000 the judge decided that the two Hernandez attorneys needed help. 518 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Yochelson: Judge Tynan appointed a third lawyer. 519 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 He made a great selection in Ray Clark, 520 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000 who came on and took over a lot of the case. 521 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Hernandez: A wonderful, wonderful guy. 522 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000 He helped out a lot. 523 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 But Ray Clark also had a controversial strategy. 524 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 Reporter: Any speculation on how Mr. Ramirez 525 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 might stand right now at this point? 526 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Hopefully not guilty. 527 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,000 I think somebody else did it. 528 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000 He is innocent in your mind? 529 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000 He is not guilty in my mind, 530 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 and I would like for the press to make the distinction. 531 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 The argument at trial was that somebody else 532 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 did all these crimes. 533 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Linedecker: Some other dude did it. 534 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000 I don't think there was another dude like Richard Ramirez. 535 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Jordan: And that wasn't even the oddest thing about the trial. 536 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,000 The entire back row was filled with goth girls. 537 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:43,000 ♪♪ 538 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Reporter: Why were you in the courtroom today? 539 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000 I just wanted to see what he looked like. 540 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000 I think he's cute. 541 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Yochelson: He loved the attention. 542 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 At this point, the women started showing up, 543 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 the so-called groupies, who would come to court 544 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:04,000 and want to see Ramirez and who were rooting for him. 545 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Hancock: The first thing I remember 546 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000 is that I walked into the courtroom, 547 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,000 the entire back row was filled with goth girls 548 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000 in black leather dresses 549 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,000 and dark black hair and silver and chains. 550 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 All kinds of people ... really crazy, you know, 551 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000 street folks and some other professional ones. 552 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 There was a lot of weird stuff ... 553 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000 you know, "Send me your semen. I want to have your baby." 554 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 You know, I mean, people ... people are really crazy. 555 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000 The thing that really astonished me in this 556 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,000 was the attraction of what you'd describe 557 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000 as otherwise intelligent and capable women 558 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:47,000 attracted to somebody who is accused of crimes 559 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000 of this horrific magnitude. 560 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Woman: Everyone makes him look so bad, you know, 561 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000 but I know that he's ... 562 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000 he's a nice person 'cause I've met him and I know. 563 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,000 It's an extreme, exaggerated form 564 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:08,000 of the tendency of many women to be attracted to bad boys, 565 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000 and there's some kind of "Beauty and the Beast" fantasy 566 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000 going on. 567 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,000 You know, "My love will transform this creature 568 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000 into a warm, loving being." 569 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Hernandez: Doreen Lioy was one of Richard's 570 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000 very persistent followers ... groupies. 571 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,000 She was a, you know, very eloquent, very sharp lady. 572 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,000 One of the things that she did was claiming 573 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 that she wanted to die with him 574 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 and she would go and kill herself, 575 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000 you know, if he was ever put to death. 576 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000 But she really liked to, you know, write to Richard, 577 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000 and she apparently wrote very good letters. 578 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000 You know, this is Los Angeles, and even then, 579 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000 even as a young attorney, 580 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000 it just seemed to be par for the course. 581 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 It's show biz, and it was a distraction 582 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 because it was annoying. 583 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,000 At that time, it was like the ... the case of the century. 584 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Yochelson: There was a lot of press coverage. 585 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Mostly print reporters were there. 586 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000 There were still photographers in the courtroom. 587 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Television filmed the closing argument. 588 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Many of the jurors had tears in their eyes 589 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000 as they listened to the horror. 590 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Yochelson: There was direct evidence. 591 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Surviving victims were able to identify Ramirez 592 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,000 and describe what he did. 593 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000 You connect his fingerprints to a couple of the scenes. 594 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000 It's either Ramirez doing this 595 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000 or that somebody else was wearing his fingerprints. 596 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000 The guns were linked to Ramirez 597 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000 that were used at the crime scenes, 598 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000 so that's another piece of the circumstantial evidence. 599 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000 And all the stolen property traced back to him, as well. 600 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Yochelson: Richard Ramirez stole a lot of jewelry, 601 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000 and a lot of this jewelry was recovered 602 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000 that was in turn identified 603 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,000 by either the victims or the victims' survivors. 604 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000 Jordan: Despite all the evidence, 605 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 the defense team continued to argue 606 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,000 that Richard Ramirez was just the wrong guy, 607 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 and in one case, they actually tried to implicate 608 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 the victim's family. 609 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Reporter: Jack Vincow discovered the body 610 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 of his 79-year-old mother stabbed to death 611 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000 in her Los Angeles apartment, 612 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,000 but Vincow later admitted under defense cross-examination 613 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,000 that his mother had often engaged in loud disputes 614 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 with Vincow's mentally disturbed brother Manny. 615 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Jenkins: So the defense was shooting from the hip 616 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,000 trying to create any kind of diversion from Ramirez's guilt. 617 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,000 We were not here to provide total exoneration. 618 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,000 We're trying to throw in some kind of a reasonable doubt, 619 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000 you know, and that was our duty. 620 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Reporter: But as Vincow described 621 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000 how he found his mother's body, 622 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Ramirez leaned forward and smiled. 623 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Hancock: He had a little smirk on his face. 624 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,000 He was just radiating evil. 625 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Just ... just pure malevolence. 626 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,000 I could feel waves of hatred coming out of him 627 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000 and just pure malice. 628 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,000 And I looked at him, and I thought, 629 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000 "I better not look at him anymore." 630 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Dietz: When he got the nickname "Night Stalker," 631 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000 why not play it out a little more 632 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 and get some more power 633 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000 by scaring people in the courtroom, 634 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,000 creating images that would be remembered 635 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,000 decades later of his antics in the courtroom? 636 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000 So he succeeded. 637 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Yochelson: This was a long trial. 638 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000 We had approximately 165 witnesses, 639 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000 some 8,000 pages of transcript or testimony 640 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,000 that the jurors had to go through to reach their verdict. 641 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,000 And then a bizarre twist made the public wonder 642 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,000 if Richard Ramirez was still killing from behind bars. 643 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000 One day, one of the jurors didn't show up. 644 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000 But big deal. Death always went with the territory. 645 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000 I'll see you in Disneyland. 646 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:30,000 ♪♪ 647 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Reporter: Dark sunglasses and shackles ... 648 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 that was Richard Ramirez's daily attire 649 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 throughout the almost year-long Night Stalker trial. 650 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000 And from the very beginning, prosecutor Philip Halpin 651 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000 left no doubt about his intentions for Ramirez. 652 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Ray Clark's argument was, we got to have sympathy 653 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000 even for the worst of all people. 654 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000 But you're not gonna get sympathy for a guy 655 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,000 that had done all these horrible things. 656 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000 Some people would hang you for spitting on a sidewalk. 657 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,000 I wouldn't hang you for atrocities such as Hitler did. 658 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Hernandez: I would've argued differently. 659 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,000 We're talking about a death penalty. 660 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000 We're gonna take somebody's life. 661 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,000 The state is gonna execute somebody. 662 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000 The prosecution's argument was a very methodical argument. 663 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000 It was simply going through all the crimes, 664 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,000 listing all of this evidence that linked Ramirez. 665 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Jordan: It was a long and tumultuous trial. 666 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 In the end, there were 165 witnesses 667 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000 and 658 pieces of evidence presented 668 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 before the defense and the prosecution 669 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000 gave their final closing arguments. 670 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,000 As the jury was deliberating this mountain of evidence 671 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000 that they had to consider, 672 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,000 one day, one of the jurors didn't show up. 673 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000 Then she was found dead. 674 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 There was a lot of speculation in the media that ... 675 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,000 that the murder of this juror 676 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000 was really somehow related to the case, 677 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 that it was a conspiracy ... 678 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000 maybe, perhaps Ramirez had followers who had done this, 679 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000 that Ramirez had somehow orchestrated this. 680 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Well, the rumors included me as a co-conspirator. 681 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,000 I was the prime suspect. 682 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Yochelson: None of this was true. 683 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000 It was an act of domestic violence 684 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000 on the part of the juror's husband. 685 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,000 But this was all out there, 686 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 and the defense argued that there should be a mistrial 687 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000 because they were afraid that the jurors would speculate 688 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,000 that it was somehow connected to the case. 689 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 You know, I thought, "Oh, boy. 690 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000 If they're gonna need to declare a mistrial, 691 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 that's gonna be God awful." 692 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 An alternate juror was substituted in, 693 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000 and under California law, 694 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,000 the jury had to begin their deliberations all over again. 695 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Jordan: After such a chaotic trial, 696 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000 the jury had to deal with this awful distraction 697 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 and the murder of one of their own. 698 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000 But in the end, they did their job. 699 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:07,000 ♪♪ 700 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,000 Reporter: Richard Ramirez wasn't in the courtroom 701 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,000 to hear the verdict against him. 702 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000 He opted to stay in his cell 703 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000 for what was a loud and clear decision. 704 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,000 "We, the jury in the above entitled action, 705 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000 find the defendant, Richard Ramirez, 706 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000 guilty of murder." 707 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Yochelson: They came back with verdicts 708 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000 convicting Ramirez of 13 counts of murder, 709 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000 murder in the first degree, 710 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000 with various what are called special circumstances 711 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000 making him eligible for the death penalty, 712 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000 and then 30 other felonies. 713 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,000 He was yelling from the holding cell, "I'm guilty. 714 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000 I want the death penalty. I want to die now." 715 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,000 Reporter: When Richard Ramirez was found guilty, 716 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,000 he left the courthouse flashing the sign of Satan. 717 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Evil. 718 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000 Reporter: When he returned to find out 719 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000 if he would live or die, 720 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,000 he flashed an obscenity. 721 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,000 ♪♪ 722 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 The final courtroom chapter of a serial killer 723 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000 was played out for Richard Ramirez. 724 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,000 The 29-year-old devil-worshipping 725 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000 drifter from Texas 726 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000 had been found guilty of the heinous crimes. 727 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,000 This courtroom date was to pronounce final sentencing. 728 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000 I don't think anyone was surprised 729 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000 when the sentence was read. 730 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,000 "We, the jury in the above entitled action, 731 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,000 found it to be an intentional murder, 732 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,000 fix the penalty therefore at death." 733 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,000 Reporter: And Ramirez finally spoke, 734 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,000 evoking the spirit of Satan after a year-long trial. 735 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,000 When he was leaving the courtroom for the last time, 736 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,000 he made some statements. 737 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000 Reporter: He made it very clear he is not afraid to die. 738 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,000 But big deal. Death always went with the territory. 739 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000 I'll see you in Disneyland. 740 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000 Jordan: As the trial ended, 741 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000 his time in the spotlight was over, 742 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000 but still there was one person who would stick by his side. 743 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000 Man: Here she comes. 744 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000 Man #2: She's here and walking in the door. 745 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000 Martin: Doreen Lioy was the winner 746 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 in the serious suitors that he had attracted 747 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,000 during the course of the trial. 748 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000 I just wanted to say I'm ecstatically happy today 749 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000 and very, very proud to have married Richard 750 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 and to be his wife. 751 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,000 And I hope that you will be very respectful of the day 752 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,000 and let me go and enjoy my day in peace, 753 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000 and I appreciate your patience. Thank you. 754 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Reporter: Couldn't you respond to some of the allegations 755 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000 that you're a recluse, 756 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000 that you live in a fantasy world, things like that? 757 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000 -No. -Don't you want to speak to us? 758 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Can you just say why, Doreen? 759 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,000 In 2009, the San Francisco police department 760 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,000 was able to link an unsolved homicide of a small child. 761 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Once he had his DNA in the system, 762 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000 they started finding out, for example, the little girl, 763 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000 9-year-old that was killed in San Francisco. 764 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000 She was killed and sexually assaulted, 765 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000 which was a terrible case. 766 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Jordan: Doreen Lioy divorced Ramirez, 767 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000 citing this information as the reason 768 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000 she wanted to distance herself from the Night Stalker. 769 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Kristof: He never showed any sign of remorse 770 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 all through the trials. 771 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000 He never showed any sign of remorse whatsoever. 772 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000 He was just a monster. 773 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,000 I don't think we've seen the likes of him before or since, 774 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000 and thank God for that. 775 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:52,000 Since the mid-1980s, I've asked the correctional officers 776 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,000 to unchain the inmate that I was going to interview 777 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000 so that he'd be comfortable. 778 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Richard Ramirez is the only inmate I've interviewed 779 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,000 for whom I did not request he be freed and unchained. 780 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Carns: It has put a huge detour into my life. 781 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000 I wasn't the same person I was prior to the injury. 782 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Now it's time to pick up the pieces and keep going on. 783 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,000 He would've never stopped. 784 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,000 He would've never stopped. 785 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Richard Ramirez continued to attract female admirers 786 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,000 from behind the walls of San Quentin up until his end. 787 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000 After almost 24 years on death row, 788 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:50,000 Ramirez died on June 7, 2013, at the age of 53 ... 789 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,000 not by execution 790 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,000 but from complications related to B-cell lymphoma. 791 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,000 Meanwhile, victims' families and survivors 792 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000 of the Night Stalker's vicious attacks 793 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,000 did what they could to move forward with their lives. 794 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 795 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000 Thanks for watching. 796 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000 Good night. 63202

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