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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,070 --> 00:00:05,005 ♪ 2 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:25,729 On Memorial Day 1978, I 3 00:01:25,753 --> 00:01:28,031 dropped dead. 4 00:01:28,055 --> 00:01:29,833 10 days later, I would leave 5 00:01:29,857 --> 00:01:31,668 ucla medical center with this 6 00:01:31,692 --> 00:01:33,537 prescription... don't walk up 7 00:01:33,561 --> 00:01:35,472 stairs, don't go anywhere 8 00:01:35,496 --> 00:01:37,707 without someone who knows cpr. 9 00:01:37,731 --> 00:01:39,676 Give up your motocross career. 10 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:41,278 Take heart medication for the 11 00:01:41,302 --> 00:01:42,379 rest of your life. 12 00:01:42,403 --> 00:01:44,181 You have over a 50% chance of 13 00:01:44,205 --> 00:01:46,082 dying in the next two years, and 14 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:47,984 if you're lucky, you'll survive 15 00:01:48,008 --> 00:01:50,220 sex. 16 00:01:50,244 --> 00:01:51,621 That turning point launched my 17 00:01:51,645 --> 00:01:52,889 personal quest for optimal 18 00:01:52,913 --> 00:01:53,391 health. 19 00:01:53,415 --> 00:01:54,791 Without the ability to perform 20 00:01:54,815 --> 00:01:56,526 even moderately strenuous 21 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:58,362 physical activities, my diet 22 00:01:58,386 --> 00:02:00,264 became crucial to my personal 23 00:02:00,288 --> 00:02:02,031 well-being and my survival. 24 00:02:02,055 --> 00:02:03,400 First, I went with the u.S. 25 00:02:03,424 --> 00:02:04,701 Government's conventional 26 00:02:04,725 --> 00:02:06,102 advice, following the usda's 27 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:07,637 low-fat, high-carb food pyramid 28 00:02:07,661 --> 00:02:09,105 recommendations. 29 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:10,707 I soon learned that following 30 00:02:10,731 --> 00:02:12,075 the food pyramid left me 31 00:02:12,099 --> 00:02:13,810 constantly hungry, hypoglycemic, 32 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:15,179 and over-obsessing about 33 00:02:15,203 --> 00:02:16,213 everything I ate. 34 00:02:16,237 --> 00:02:17,614 I continued searching, reading 35 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:19,048 everything I could get my hands 36 00:02:19,072 --> 00:02:20,941 on about natural health. 37 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:22,319 I experimented with a wide 38 00:02:22,343 --> 00:02:23,687 variety of eating methods, 39 00:02:23,711 --> 00:02:25,155 cleansing fasts, and dietary 40 00:02:25,179 --> 00:02:26,556 philosophies to see if they 41 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:28,158 could help me be my healthiest, 42 00:02:28,182 --> 00:02:30,194 including macrobiotics, juicing, 43 00:02:30,218 --> 00:02:32,229 water fasts, the master cleanse, 44 00:02:32,253 --> 00:02:33,697 natural hygiene's food 45 00:02:33,721 --> 00:02:36,566 combining, and vegetarianism. 46 00:02:36,590 --> 00:02:38,067 I also explored spiritual 47 00:02:38,091 --> 00:02:39,736 disciplines and their dietary 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,438 ideas and ultimately became a 49 00:02:41,462 --> 00:02:43,173 raw-food vegan in an effort to 50 00:02:43,197 --> 00:02:44,874 find both health and the same 51 00:02:44,898 --> 00:02:46,142 inner peace I'd felt during my 52 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:47,344 near-death experience on the 53 00:02:47,368 --> 00:02:48,745 running track. 54 00:02:48,769 --> 00:02:50,847 For over five years, I ate only 55 00:02:50,871 --> 00:02:52,749 uncooked fruits, vegetables, 56 00:02:52,773 --> 00:02:54,651 nuts, seeds, and sprouts, an 57 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:55,985 experience that inspired my 58 00:02:56,009 --> 00:02:57,421 first book, "the Christ diet... 59 00:02:57,445 --> 00:02:58,655 Connect your cells to your 60 00:02:58,679 --> 00:02:59,713 soul." 61 00:02:59,747 --> 00:03:01,124 But as time passed and life 62 00:03:01,148 --> 00:03:02,759 stresses tested my resilience, I 63 00:03:02,783 --> 00:03:04,261 didn't feel as good physically 64 00:03:04,285 --> 00:03:05,795 or emotionally as when I first 65 00:03:05,819 --> 00:03:06,863 began a vegan diet. 66 00:03:06,887 --> 00:03:08,398 The defining moment for me was 67 00:03:08,422 --> 00:03:09,933 my mother's death at the hands 68 00:03:09,957 --> 00:03:10,934 of a drunk driver. 69 00:03:10,958 --> 00:03:12,536 My dietary discipline, no matter 70 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,937 how well-intentioned, wasn't 71 00:03:13,961 --> 00:03:15,339 providing my body, mind, or 72 00:03:15,363 --> 00:03:16,706 spirit with the materials I 73 00:03:16,730 --> 00:03:18,041 needed to recover from the 74 00:03:18,065 --> 00:03:20,076 physical and emotional impact of 75 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:20,778 my loss. 76 00:03:20,802 --> 00:03:22,879 In fact, it wasn't long before 77 00:03:22,903 --> 00:03:25,014 my inner voice began crying out 78 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:27,784 for real protein. 79 00:03:27,808 --> 00:03:29,253 During these same years as I 80 00:03:29,277 --> 00:03:30,820 became a writer and broadcast 81 00:03:30,844 --> 00:03:32,922 journalist, we've seen a new 82 00:03:32,946 --> 00:03:34,724 national crisis emerge... an 83 00:03:34,748 --> 00:03:36,760 epidemic of overweight, obesity, 84 00:03:36,784 --> 00:03:38,795 and diet-related chronic disease 85 00:03:38,819 --> 00:03:40,497 that is now the number-one 86 00:03:40,521 --> 00:03:42,366 killer in the u.S., spreading 87 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:44,401 unchecked to developed countries 88 00:03:44,425 --> 00:03:45,602 around the globe. 89 00:03:45,626 --> 00:03:47,371 The confusion for most Americans 90 00:03:47,395 --> 00:03:49,105 is that we see and hear so much 91 00:03:49,129 --> 00:03:50,707 contradictory advice that we 92 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:52,442 don't really understand what to 93 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:53,777 eat for optimal health. 94 00:03:53,801 --> 00:03:55,579 How can we deal with a national 95 00:03:55,603 --> 00:03:57,381 obesity epidemic when most of US 96 00:03:57,405 --> 00:03:59,148 aren't even sure how to lose our 97 00:03:59,172 --> 00:04:00,850 own excess body fat? 98 00:04:00,874 --> 00:04:02,619 In fact, 10 years ago, a 99 00:04:02,643 --> 00:04:04,821 national Harris poll said 80% of 100 00:04:04,845 --> 00:04:06,490 Americans over 25 were 101 00:04:06,514 --> 00:04:07,458 overweight. 102 00:04:07,482 --> 00:04:09,259 And abc news declared that 103 00:04:09,283 --> 00:04:11,328 Americans are fat and just too 104 00:04:11,352 --> 00:04:13,297 confused to do anything about 105 00:04:13,321 --> 00:04:14,498 it. 106 00:04:14,522 --> 00:04:16,966 The public is confused not 107 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:19,569 because what are known as facts 108 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:20,870 continue to change. 109 00:04:20,894 --> 00:04:22,772 The public is confused because 110 00:04:22,796 --> 00:04:24,040 what the media and 111 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:25,775 special-interest groups and 112 00:04:25,799 --> 00:04:27,010 large corporations selling 113 00:04:27,034 --> 00:04:28,512 foods, et cetera, would like you 114 00:04:28,536 --> 00:04:30,314 to currently believe is a fact 115 00:04:30,338 --> 00:04:31,748 keeps on being changed. 116 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:33,783 90% of the people that I see 117 00:04:33,807 --> 00:04:35,719 have no clue, and they're just 118 00:04:35,743 --> 00:04:37,654 jumping from one thing to the 119 00:04:37,678 --> 00:04:39,456 next thing on a daily basis. 120 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,458 I think we just need to ditch 121 00:04:41,482 --> 00:04:42,859 the whole thing and 122 00:04:42,883 --> 00:04:44,761 reconceptualize and reteach 123 00:04:44,785 --> 00:04:46,630 nutrition from a very basic 124 00:04:46,654 --> 00:04:47,764 point of view. 125 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:49,265 I think we complicate it too 126 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:49,734 much. 127 00:04:49,758 --> 00:04:52,235 I have spent a fair amount of 128 00:04:52,259 --> 00:04:54,638 time in hospital scenarios and 129 00:04:54,662 --> 00:04:57,206 it's tragic when you see some of 130 00:04:57,230 --> 00:04:59,309 the compounding factors of 131 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:01,478 obesity and how it shortens 132 00:05:01,502 --> 00:05:02,946 lives, how it decreases quality 133 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:03,481 of life. 134 00:05:03,505 --> 00:05:04,848 So it's a tragedy in that 135 00:05:04,872 --> 00:05:06,483 regard, particularly when we're 136 00:05:06,507 --> 00:05:08,017 seeing more and more children 137 00:05:08,041 --> 00:05:08,919 affected by it. 138 00:05:08,943 --> 00:05:11,321 People will not be able to 139 00:05:11,345 --> 00:05:13,490 afford the cost of chronic 140 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:14,824 obesity and diabetes and all of 141 00:05:14,848 --> 00:05:16,025 the complications that come 142 00:05:16,049 --> 00:05:16,594 with that. 143 00:05:16,618 --> 00:05:19,896 We're spending $147 billion a 144 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,866 year because of obesity-related 145 00:05:22,890 --> 00:05:24,167 conditions. 146 00:05:24,191 --> 00:05:26,870 And we've seen the rate increase 147 00:05:26,894 --> 00:05:29,406 among kids in all communities. 148 00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:30,840 In the African-American and 149 00:05:30,864 --> 00:05:32,208 hispanic communities, the 150 00:05:32,232 --> 00:05:34,310 numbers are even worse. 151 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:35,912 Add to the mix our new 152 00:05:35,936 --> 00:05:37,547 personal media devices and 153 00:05:37,571 --> 00:05:39,516 escaping our uncertainty is made 154 00:05:39,540 --> 00:05:41,385 increasingly difficult because 155 00:05:41,409 --> 00:05:42,819 we are surrounded by a 156 00:05:42,843 --> 00:05:44,187 never-ending cycle of 157 00:05:44,211 --> 00:05:45,422 ever-changing diet 158 00:05:45,446 --> 00:05:47,290 recommendations and emotionally 159 00:05:47,314 --> 00:05:48,992 charged nutritional beliefs 160 00:05:49,016 --> 00:05:50,827 everywhere we go, every day of 161 00:05:50,851 --> 00:05:51,796 our lives. 162 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:53,430 There are three things in 163 00:05:53,454 --> 00:05:55,264 life which are very visceral... 164 00:05:55,288 --> 00:05:57,601 Religion, politics, and 165 00:05:57,625 --> 00:05:58,768 nutrition. 166 00:05:58,792 --> 00:06:00,103 They're all based on belief 167 00:06:00,127 --> 00:06:01,337 systems, and none of them 168 00:06:01,361 --> 00:06:03,072 respond well to challenge. 169 00:06:03,096 --> 00:06:04,374 Essentially, you say, "don't 170 00:06:04,398 --> 00:06:05,542 confuse me with the facts 171 00:06:05,566 --> 00:06:07,010 because, in my heart, I know i'm 172 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:07,745 right." 173 00:06:07,769 --> 00:06:09,379 A quick Google search on 174 00:06:09,403 --> 00:06:11,280 healthy eating reveals literally 175 00:06:11,304 --> 00:06:12,816 thousand of contradictory 176 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,651 messages, medical entertainment 177 00:06:14,675 --> 00:06:16,085 shows, superficial news 178 00:06:16,109 --> 00:06:17,954 coverage, inaccurate reporting, 179 00:06:17,978 --> 00:06:19,789 and personal opinions delivered 180 00:06:19,813 --> 00:06:21,991 as fact, fueling even more 181 00:06:22,015 --> 00:06:23,092 confusion. 182 00:06:23,116 --> 00:06:24,861 Nobody's really interested in 183 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:26,496 delineating the distinctions, 184 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,097 here, in educating people and 185 00:06:28,121 --> 00:06:29,499 allowing them to make an 186 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:30,500 informed choice. 187 00:06:30,524 --> 00:06:33,002 We look for sensationalism, and 188 00:06:33,026 --> 00:06:34,704 so they create a very false 189 00:06:34,728 --> 00:06:36,606 dichotomy right out of the gate 190 00:06:36,630 --> 00:06:38,307 that... usually, the person 191 00:06:38,331 --> 00:06:39,709 presenting information like 192 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:41,144 this... Gary taubes and some 193 00:06:41,168 --> 00:06:42,679 other people have been kind of 194 00:06:42,703 --> 00:06:44,914 waylaid by these setups, 195 00:06:44,938 --> 00:06:46,249 essentially. 196 00:06:46,273 --> 00:06:48,051 Health is not simply the 197 00:06:48,075 --> 00:06:50,019 absence of disease. 198 00:06:50,043 --> 00:06:51,187 Health is being healthy. 199 00:06:51,211 --> 00:06:52,456 And a lot of people have no 200 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,757 disease, but they never get 201 00:06:53,781 --> 00:06:55,324 enough sleep, they can't get out 202 00:06:55,348 --> 00:06:56,560 of bed in the morning, they 203 00:06:56,584 --> 00:06:57,961 don't have all the energy they 204 00:06:57,985 --> 00:06:59,295 need for the things they do, 205 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:00,730 they have to visit a doctor two 206 00:07:00,754 --> 00:07:02,065 or three times, you know, in 207 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:03,033 a six-month period. 208 00:07:03,057 --> 00:07:04,367 They're at their chiropractor 209 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:05,002 every week. 210 00:07:05,026 --> 00:07:06,069 They take two or three 211 00:07:06,093 --> 00:07:07,504 over-the-counter pain meds, two 212 00:07:07,528 --> 00:07:09,372 or three anti-inflammatories, a 213 00:07:09,396 --> 00:07:10,874 bunch of antihistamines. 214 00:07:10,898 --> 00:07:12,709 That's not health. 215 00:07:12,733 --> 00:07:14,544 They don't have a diagnosed 216 00:07:14,568 --> 00:07:16,279 illness, and they are not 217 00:07:16,303 --> 00:07:17,047 healthy. 218 00:07:17,071 --> 00:07:19,549 And that's most of the public. 219 00:07:19,573 --> 00:07:21,184 The tragic end result of this 220 00:07:21,208 --> 00:07:22,719 confusion is that in the u.S. 221 00:07:22,743 --> 00:07:24,087 Alone, it's estimated that 222 00:07:24,111 --> 00:07:25,822 between 300,000 and 400,000 223 00:07:25,846 --> 00:07:27,524 people die every year from 224 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:29,459 complications directly related 225 00:07:29,483 --> 00:07:30,494 to their diet. 226 00:07:30,518 --> 00:07:32,295 That means in 10 years, four 227 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:34,297 million more of US will be dead 228 00:07:34,321 --> 00:07:36,332 from largely preventable causes, 229 00:07:36,356 --> 00:07:38,034 a statistic that should stop US 230 00:07:38,058 --> 00:07:39,603 in our tracks and push US to 231 00:07:39,627 --> 00:07:40,904 search for an immediate 232 00:07:40,928 --> 00:07:41,572 solution. 233 00:07:41,596 --> 00:07:44,307 Yet what remains is an invisible 234 00:07:44,331 --> 00:07:46,476 epidemic without a face. 235 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:48,512 Sadly, unless we see the horror 236 00:07:48,536 --> 00:07:50,580 for ourselves on live television 237 00:07:50,604 --> 00:07:53,650 as we did September 11, 2001, we 238 00:07:53,674 --> 00:07:55,418 don't seem to grasp the very 239 00:07:55,442 --> 00:07:57,320 real threat to ourselves and our 240 00:07:57,344 --> 00:07:58,122 loved ones. 241 00:07:58,146 --> 00:07:59,889 With all due respect to those 242 00:07:59,913 --> 00:08:01,691 who lost their lives that day, 243 00:08:01,715 --> 00:08:03,426 their friends and loved ones, 244 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:05,394 take a moment to consider this 245 00:08:05,418 --> 00:08:06,163 analogy. 246 00:08:06,187 --> 00:08:08,164 The largely preventable deaths 247 00:08:08,188 --> 00:08:10,066 of the 300,000 to 400,000 people 248 00:08:10,090 --> 00:08:11,868 who die every year from disease 249 00:08:11,892 --> 00:08:13,469 caused by the diet they eat 250 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:18,041 every day is about 100 9/11s, 251 00:08:18,065 --> 00:08:21,177 essentially the same as one 9/11 252 00:08:21,201 --> 00:08:23,980 every three days, year in and 253 00:08:24,004 --> 00:08:27,775 year out with no end in sight. 254 00:08:30,043 --> 00:08:31,955 Dropping dead was easy that hot 255 00:08:31,979 --> 00:08:33,957 Memorial Day in 1978 compared to 256 00:08:33,981 --> 00:08:35,559 what I had to face later. 257 00:08:35,583 --> 00:08:37,761 That day, at the age of 24, I 258 00:08:37,785 --> 00:08:39,896 felt no pain, had no visible 259 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,898 scars, and soon moved forward 260 00:08:41,922 --> 00:08:43,633 with getting my life back 261 00:08:43,657 --> 00:08:45,693 together. 262 00:08:48,596 --> 00:08:50,807 Then, 22 years later at age 46, 263 00:08:50,831 --> 00:08:52,809 due to increasing irregular 264 00:08:52,833 --> 00:08:54,010 heartbeats and difficulty 265 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:55,344 breathing, I had to have a 266 00:08:55,368 --> 00:08:56,780 cardiac defibrillator implanted 267 00:08:56,804 --> 00:08:58,582 in my left chest muscle, which 268 00:08:58,606 --> 00:09:00,216 would restart my heart if I 269 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,284 collapsed again. 270 00:09:01,308 --> 00:09:02,652 The implant was a physically 271 00:09:02,676 --> 00:09:04,153 painful and dispiriting reminder 272 00:09:04,177 --> 00:09:06,522 of my mortality I could see and 273 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:07,857 feel every day. 274 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:09,392 I didn't know how much time I 275 00:09:09,416 --> 00:09:10,827 had left to live, but I was 276 00:09:10,851 --> 00:09:12,361 determined to use what time I 277 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:14,230 had to make a difference. 278 00:09:14,254 --> 00:09:16,065 This was the beginning of my 279 00:09:16,089 --> 00:09:17,901 unprecedented 10-year global 280 00:09:17,925 --> 00:09:19,769 journey to define the perfect 281 00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:21,995 human diet. 282 00:09:40,981 --> 00:09:42,558 Albert Einstein once said, 283 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,193 "we can't solve problems with 284 00:09:44,217 --> 00:09:45,962 the same kind of thinking we use 285 00:09:45,986 --> 00:09:47,230 when we created them." 286 00:09:47,254 --> 00:09:48,832 Similarly, when I was a boy and 287 00:09:48,856 --> 00:09:50,299 I really wanted to know the 288 00:09:50,323 --> 00:09:51,968 answer to a complex or confusing 289 00:09:51,992 --> 00:09:53,469 question, my parents gave me 290 00:09:53,493 --> 00:09:55,371 some simple advice to open up my 291 00:09:55,395 --> 00:09:57,140 mind to new ways of thinking. 292 00:09:57,164 --> 00:09:58,942 First, they said, "dive in and 293 00:09:58,966 --> 00:10:00,343 do your own homework." 294 00:10:00,367 --> 00:10:01,577 Second... "be willing to 295 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:03,079 look past conventional thinking 296 00:10:03,103 --> 00:10:04,614 for clues and alternative points 297 00:10:04,638 --> 00:10:05,215 of view." 298 00:10:05,239 --> 00:10:06,783 And finally, "don't be afraid to 299 00:10:06,807 --> 00:10:07,984 go back and start at the 300 00:10:08,008 --> 00:10:09,552 beginning and see where it leads 301 00:10:09,576 --> 00:10:10,787 you. 302 00:10:10,811 --> 00:10:12,288 Using that model, preparing to 303 00:10:12,312 --> 00:10:13,690 search for the perfect human 304 00:10:13,714 --> 00:10:15,058 diet required me to do some 305 00:10:15,082 --> 00:10:16,492 homework on a few nutritional 306 00:10:16,516 --> 00:10:17,994 pioneers that are flying under 307 00:10:18,018 --> 00:10:19,262 the radar of conventional 308 00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:21,364 dietary thinking. 309 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:22,932 The west coast repository for 310 00:10:22,956 --> 00:10:24,634 one of the largest libraries of 311 00:10:24,658 --> 00:10:26,169 books and media dedicated to 312 00:10:26,193 --> 00:10:27,704 preserving the works of the 313 00:10:27,728 --> 00:10:29,205 nutritional pioneers is the 314 00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:30,606 price-pottenger nutrition 315 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:31,975 foundation in San Diego, 316 00:10:31,999 --> 00:10:34,210 California, where I spoke with 317 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:35,544 the foundation board vice 318 00:10:35,568 --> 00:10:38,181 president, David getoff. 319 00:10:38,205 --> 00:10:42,485 The foundation is set up to 320 00:10:42,509 --> 00:10:46,555 do two main things... to archive 321 00:10:46,579 --> 00:10:49,158 the works of all the nutrition 322 00:10:49,182 --> 00:10:51,695 pioneers, and the other is to 323 00:10:51,719 --> 00:10:54,463 promote the information that was 324 00:10:54,487 --> 00:10:57,200 derived from all that work, and 325 00:10:57,224 --> 00:10:59,769 to have people understand that 326 00:10:59,793 --> 00:11:02,872 the ways in which the population 327 00:11:02,896 --> 00:11:04,941 of the planet... you know, not 328 00:11:04,965 --> 00:11:06,943 of the u.S. Or any particular 329 00:11:06,967 --> 00:11:09,012 little area, but the planet... 330 00:11:09,036 --> 00:11:12,248 Ate when they were researched by 331 00:11:12,272 --> 00:11:14,383 Weston price when he traveled 332 00:11:14,407 --> 00:11:16,652 around our world looking at all 333 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:18,187 sorts of different tribal and 334 00:11:18,211 --> 00:11:19,823 traditional populations that had 335 00:11:19,847 --> 00:11:21,390 not yet been influenced by all 336 00:11:21,414 --> 00:11:22,892 of the things that we're all 337 00:11:22,916 --> 00:11:24,327 influenced by because there 338 00:11:24,351 --> 00:11:25,795 wasn't anything around them. 339 00:11:25,819 --> 00:11:27,330 They were still eating in the 340 00:11:27,354 --> 00:11:29,032 traditional methods... that they 341 00:11:29,056 --> 00:11:32,869 had very unbelievably, extremely 342 00:11:32,893 --> 00:11:34,804 good health, that they had a 343 00:11:34,828 --> 00:11:36,773 completely different-looking 344 00:11:36,797 --> 00:11:38,307 face, which some people today 345 00:11:38,331 --> 00:11:39,743 might not even like because 346 00:11:39,767 --> 00:11:41,244 we've gotten used to the thin 347 00:11:41,268 --> 00:11:42,812 faces that have developed from 348 00:11:42,836 --> 00:11:44,213 improper feeding, which is 349 00:11:44,237 --> 00:11:45,414 pretty cute, actually. 350 00:11:45,438 --> 00:11:46,615 It's very interesting. 351 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:48,584 But the jaw structure and the 352 00:11:48,608 --> 00:11:50,686 skull was large enough that you 353 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:52,121 didn't have to remove your 354 00:11:52,145 --> 00:11:53,556 wisdom teeth because there 355 00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:54,791 wasn't room for them. 356 00:11:54,815 --> 00:11:56,459 You didn't have to pull two or 357 00:11:56,483 --> 00:11:57,861 three other teeth out for 358 00:11:57,885 --> 00:12:00,129 orthodontia and then work on an 359 00:12:00,153 --> 00:12:01,865 overbite or underbite. 360 00:12:01,889 --> 00:12:04,000 None of those things happened 361 00:12:04,024 --> 00:12:05,434 because we were all eating 362 00:12:05,458 --> 00:12:06,136 correctly. 363 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,637 What I say in classes is 364 00:12:08,661 --> 00:12:11,374 generally that the longest 365 00:12:11,398 --> 00:12:13,409 running and most 366 00:12:13,433 --> 00:12:15,311 comprehensive... and the largest 367 00:12:15,335 --> 00:12:17,113 number of people in the actual 368 00:12:17,137 --> 00:12:18,848 group... of research that has 369 00:12:18,872 --> 00:12:21,484 ever been done on the human diet 370 00:12:21,508 --> 00:12:23,853 is called the history of the 371 00:12:23,877 --> 00:12:24,654 world. 372 00:12:24,678 --> 00:12:27,056 And so when somebody takes a 373 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,625 small research study that went 374 00:12:29,649 --> 00:12:33,296 on for six months or 10 years 375 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,731 and it seems to show something 376 00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:38,067 which Weston price's research 377 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:40,636 showed the opposite of, then the 378 00:12:40,660 --> 00:12:42,972 new research is wrong because 379 00:12:42,996 --> 00:12:44,774 Weston price's research was 380 00:12:44,798 --> 00:12:46,876 specifically designed to look at 381 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:48,945 tribal populations that had been 382 00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:51,815 eating the same diet for many 383 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:54,784 multiple generations, and that 384 00:12:54,808 --> 00:12:58,554 they still had perfect health. 385 00:12:58,578 --> 00:13:00,156 Another modern nutritional 386 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:01,825 pioneer flying under the radar 387 00:13:01,849 --> 00:13:03,559 of conventional dietary thinking 388 00:13:03,583 --> 00:13:04,994 is professor kerin o'DEA, 389 00:13:05,018 --> 00:13:06,629 currently of the university of 390 00:13:06,653 --> 00:13:07,630 south Australia. 391 00:13:07,654 --> 00:13:08,664 About 30 years ago, 392 00:13:08,688 --> 00:13:10,066 professor o'DEA conducted a 393 00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:11,634 study in derby, Australia, which 394 00:13:11,658 --> 00:13:13,236 illustrated a traditional method 395 00:13:13,260 --> 00:13:15,404 of eating's potential to restore 396 00:13:15,428 --> 00:13:17,173 health to a population in 397 00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:19,308 decline due to dietary changes. 398 00:13:19,332 --> 00:13:20,944 Professor o'DEA examined a group 399 00:13:20,968 --> 00:13:22,611 of Australian aborigines who had 400 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,213 originally grown up in the bush 401 00:13:24,237 --> 00:13:25,314 as hunter-gatherers. 402 00:13:25,338 --> 00:13:26,782 They knew which foods to pick 403 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:28,251 and gather, they knew how to 404 00:13:28,275 --> 00:13:29,752 make weapons to kill kangaroos 405 00:13:29,776 --> 00:13:31,120 and dig out wallabies, and 406 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:33,256 knew where and in what season to 407 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,358 find both wild game and plants. 408 00:13:35,382 --> 00:13:36,926 But as early adults, they became 409 00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:37,627 westernized. 410 00:13:37,651 --> 00:13:39,128 They moved into small towns and 411 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:40,396 cities and started to eat 412 00:13:40,420 --> 00:13:41,965 western foods. 413 00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:43,066 They became fat. 414 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:44,868 They developed health issues, 415 00:13:44,892 --> 00:13:46,702 like type 2 diabetes and heart 416 00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:47,404 disease. 417 00:13:47,428 --> 00:13:48,771 So professor o'DEA asked the 418 00:13:48,795 --> 00:13:50,206 group, "would you be willing to 419 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:52,041 go out to the outback for a 420 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:54,177 seven-week experiment and become 421 00:13:54,201 --> 00:13:55,912 hunter-gatherers again?" 422 00:13:55,936 --> 00:13:56,713 They agreed. 423 00:13:56,737 --> 00:13:58,181 She took them out to their 424 00:13:58,205 --> 00:13:59,582 traditional country in an 425 00:13:59,606 --> 00:14:01,117 isolated location where they 426 00:14:01,141 --> 00:14:02,351 lived off the land as 427 00:14:02,375 --> 00:14:03,386 hunter-gatherers. 428 00:14:03,410 --> 00:14:04,888 Depending on whether the group 429 00:14:04,912 --> 00:14:06,222 was on the coast or inland, 430 00:14:06,246 --> 00:14:07,723 their diet varied, eating from 431 00:14:07,747 --> 00:14:11,060 54% to 80% animal protein, 13% 432 00:14:11,084 --> 00:14:14,430 to 40% fat, and from 5% to 33% 433 00:14:14,454 --> 00:14:16,532 wild, fibrous carbohydrates. 434 00:14:16,556 --> 00:14:19,035 Lo and behold, they lost weight. 435 00:14:19,059 --> 00:14:20,769 The Insulin resistance, the high 436 00:14:20,793 --> 00:14:22,138 blood pressure, the high 437 00:14:22,162 --> 00:14:23,572 cholesterol... everything 438 00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:24,773 normalized when they 439 00:14:24,797 --> 00:14:26,342 re-established their former, 440 00:14:26,366 --> 00:14:27,743 traditional lifestyles. 441 00:14:27,767 --> 00:14:29,378 All this improvement came in 442 00:14:29,402 --> 00:14:30,914 just seven weeks on a diet 443 00:14:30,938 --> 00:14:32,681 predominantly animal in origin, 444 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:35,651 an average of 64% animal-based 445 00:14:35,675 --> 00:14:36,586 foods. 446 00:14:36,610 --> 00:14:38,087 And interestingly enough, 447 00:14:38,111 --> 00:14:39,722 exercise was not a factor in 448 00:14:39,746 --> 00:14:40,924 their improvements. 449 00:14:40,948 --> 00:14:42,725 Professor o'DEA determined that 450 00:14:42,749 --> 00:14:44,327 the group was actually less 451 00:14:44,351 --> 00:14:46,029 physically active in the bush 452 00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:49,132 than in the city. 453 00:14:49,156 --> 00:14:50,766 A current test of a traditional 454 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:52,301 method of eating's ability to 455 00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:53,569 restore health has been 456 00:14:53,593 --> 00:14:54,803 undertaken by Canadian 457 00:14:54,827 --> 00:14:56,472 physician Dr. Jay wortman, who 458 00:14:56,496 --> 00:14:57,773 became interested in the 459 00:14:57,797 --> 00:14:59,308 relationship between diet and 460 00:14:59,332 --> 00:15:00,843 diabetes in the first nations 461 00:15:00,867 --> 00:15:03,913 peoples of Canada. 462 00:15:03,937 --> 00:15:05,548 First nations are one of the 463 00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:07,050 aboriginal peoples in Canada, 464 00:15:07,074 --> 00:15:08,684 and they have terrible problems 465 00:15:08,708 --> 00:15:09,953 with obesity, metabolic 466 00:15:09,977 --> 00:15:11,520 syndrome, and type 2 diabetes. 467 00:15:11,544 --> 00:15:13,522 And I think it's got a lot to do 468 00:15:13,546 --> 00:15:15,391 with the change, the dramatic 469 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,293 change from a traditional diet 470 00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:19,195 to a modern diet that is not a 471 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:20,563 very healthy diet. 472 00:15:20,587 --> 00:15:22,265 The traditional diet in this 473 00:15:22,289 --> 00:15:24,067 part of the world was very low 474 00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:25,501 in carbohydrates and it 475 00:15:25,525 --> 00:15:28,871 consisted of game, seafood, all 476 00:15:28,895 --> 00:15:31,174 kinds of fish, and some wild, 477 00:15:31,198 --> 00:15:33,576 edible plants, usually seasonal 478 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,544 plants like berries and certain 479 00:15:35,568 --> 00:15:37,546 Greens that are eaten at certain 480 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,415 times of the year, but a diet 481 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:41,250 that's very low in starch and 482 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:42,285 sugar content. 483 00:15:42,309 --> 00:15:44,020 And so it got me interested in 484 00:15:44,044 --> 00:15:45,621 the modern low-carbohydrate 485 00:15:45,645 --> 00:15:47,056 diet, so I looked at the 486 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,691 research in low-carbohydrate 487 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:50,493 diets and found that people who 488 00:15:50,517 --> 00:15:51,494 had diabetes or 489 00:15:51,518 --> 00:15:53,029 metabolic syndrome or just 490 00:15:53,053 --> 00:15:55,965 obesity benefited a lot from 491 00:15:55,989 --> 00:15:57,466 being on a modern, 492 00:15:57,490 --> 00:15:59,235 low-carbohydrate diet. 493 00:15:59,259 --> 00:16:01,037 So I got interested in that 494 00:16:01,061 --> 00:16:03,039 relationship... the traditional 495 00:16:03,063 --> 00:16:05,008 diet, the fact that it was low 496 00:16:05,032 --> 00:16:07,010 in carbohydrates, the change in 497 00:16:07,034 --> 00:16:09,145 that diet, which is a big, big 498 00:16:09,169 --> 00:16:11,314 increase in carbohydrates, and 499 00:16:11,338 --> 00:16:13,416 the advent of these diseases. 500 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,818 In my travels, I go into a lot 501 00:16:15,842 --> 00:16:18,187 of remote communities and meet 502 00:16:18,211 --> 00:16:19,056 with people. 503 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,956 I started questioning the elders 504 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:21,957 about the diet. 505 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:23,592 "What were your traditional 506 00:16:23,616 --> 00:16:24,161 foods? 507 00:16:24,185 --> 00:16:25,794 What kinds of foods did you 508 00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:26,296 eat?" 509 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,730 I started collecting stories, 510 00:16:27,754 --> 00:16:29,298 and it became very evident to me 511 00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:30,833 that their diet was very low in 512 00:16:30,857 --> 00:16:31,601 carbohydrate. 513 00:16:31,625 --> 00:16:34,103 Everybody was very interested, 514 00:16:34,127 --> 00:16:35,938 and we've selected a community 515 00:16:35,962 --> 00:16:37,840 where it looked like it may work 516 00:16:37,864 --> 00:16:39,675 and started developing a study 517 00:16:39,699 --> 00:16:40,477 there. 518 00:16:40,501 --> 00:16:43,046 It surprised me, actually, in 519 00:16:43,070 --> 00:16:45,714 some ways, the enthusiasm, the 520 00:16:45,738 --> 00:16:46,616 uptake. 521 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,218 People immediately understood 522 00:16:49,242 --> 00:16:50,786 that the connection between 523 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:52,555 their traditional ways and this 524 00:16:52,579 --> 00:16:54,257 dietary approach made sense to 525 00:16:54,281 --> 00:16:54,758 them. 526 00:16:54,782 --> 00:16:56,792 It resonated very strongly with 527 00:16:56,816 --> 00:16:58,594 them because there's a whole 528 00:16:58,618 --> 00:17:00,596 renaissance going on in terms of 529 00:17:00,620 --> 00:17:01,930 the culture. 530 00:17:01,954 --> 00:17:03,399 I feel like I'm the guy 531 00:17:03,423 --> 00:17:05,034 standing by the train tracks, 532 00:17:05,058 --> 00:17:06,635 and I know that the bridge is 533 00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:08,171 out down around the corner. 534 00:17:08,195 --> 00:17:10,473 And I'm waving at the train, 535 00:17:10,497 --> 00:17:12,608 saying, "stop! Stop!" 536 00:17:12,632 --> 00:17:15,278 And they all look at me like i'm 537 00:17:15,302 --> 00:17:16,080 crazy. 538 00:17:16,104 --> 00:17:18,614 And it's interesting because in 539 00:17:18,638 --> 00:17:20,616 the niche where I work with this 540 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,585 diet, with first nations people, 541 00:17:22,609 --> 00:17:24,220 when I connect the dots for them 542 00:17:24,244 --> 00:17:25,654 and I say, "think about your 543 00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:26,623 traditional diet. 544 00:17:26,647 --> 00:17:28,091 Think about what your elders 545 00:17:28,115 --> 00:17:30,426 ate, your ancestors. 546 00:17:30,450 --> 00:17:32,328 Think about the foods that you 547 00:17:32,352 --> 00:17:34,263 eat today and how your diet has 548 00:17:34,287 --> 00:17:36,232 changed," the lightbulbs go on. 549 00:17:36,256 --> 00:17:38,067 So I find it very rewarding to 550 00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:39,968 work in this population because 551 00:17:39,992 --> 00:17:40,837 they get it. 552 00:17:40,861 --> 00:17:42,805 They get it very quickly, and it 553 00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:44,540 makes a lot of sense to them 554 00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:46,275 that the diet they're eating 555 00:17:46,299 --> 00:17:48,211 today may, in fact, be the cause 556 00:17:48,235 --> 00:17:50,079 of a lot of the health problems 557 00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:50,880 they have. 558 00:17:50,904 --> 00:17:54,950 So that very strong resonance of 559 00:17:54,974 --> 00:17:57,186 this idea in this population 560 00:17:57,210 --> 00:17:59,588 gives me hope that we will make 561 00:17:59,612 --> 00:18:02,024 a difference with this approach. 562 00:18:02,048 --> 00:18:03,526 And if we make a difference 563 00:18:03,550 --> 00:18:05,094 here, it's gonna be hard for 564 00:18:05,118 --> 00:18:06,962 everybody else to ignore. 565 00:18:06,986 --> 00:18:08,164 For my next phase of 566 00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:09,665 preparation, I began searching 567 00:18:09,689 --> 00:18:11,267 for perspectives we are unlikely 568 00:18:11,291 --> 00:18:12,568 to hear in the mainstream 569 00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:13,936 media's coverage of popular 570 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,472 dietary advice beginning with 571 00:18:16,496 --> 00:18:17,873 vegetarianism. 572 00:18:17,897 --> 00:18:19,041 Coincidentally, the 573 00:18:19,065 --> 00:18:20,443 San Francisco vegetarian 574 00:18:20,467 --> 00:18:22,145 society's seventh-annual world 575 00:18:22,169 --> 00:18:23,879 vegetarian festival opened just 576 00:18:23,903 --> 00:18:25,548 as I was preparing to start my 577 00:18:25,572 --> 00:18:26,049 trip. 578 00:18:26,073 --> 00:18:27,150 It seemed like a perfect 579 00:18:27,174 --> 00:18:28,517 opportunity to hear the current 580 00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:29,885 thinking in the vegetarian and 581 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:31,019 vegan world from both the 582 00:18:31,043 --> 00:18:33,256 participants and the movement's 583 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,914 professional leaders. 584 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:38,518 How you doing? 585 00:18:39,752 --> 00:18:40,829 I'm doing a documentary 586 00:18:40,853 --> 00:18:42,131 called "in search of the perfect 587 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:42,732 human diet." 588 00:18:42,756 --> 00:18:44,066 Somebody want to talk to US 589 00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:45,601 about your magazine and what you 590 00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,035 do and why you're here and all 591 00:18:47,059 --> 00:18:47,971 that good stuff? 592 00:18:47,995 --> 00:18:50,038 It's a perfect fusion of both 593 00:18:50,062 --> 00:18:51,707 my passions... vegetarian 594 00:18:51,731 --> 00:18:53,442 lifestyle, even a focus on 595 00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:55,077 veganism, with the whole 596 00:18:55,101 --> 00:18:57,213 publishing aspect of a magazine. 597 00:18:57,237 --> 00:18:58,547 And you're vegan? 598 00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:00,416 I'm vegan, almost life-long. 599 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,417 Since I was 2. 600 00:19:01,441 --> 00:19:02,219 Really? 601 00:19:02,243 --> 00:19:04,153 That's pretty amazing. 602 00:19:04,177 --> 00:19:05,488 I've been vegetarian 22 603 00:19:05,512 --> 00:19:05,955 years. 604 00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:07,523 I'm just recently vegan, though, 605 00:19:07,547 --> 00:19:08,458 so I'm vegan now. 606 00:19:08,482 --> 00:19:10,593 So, we know, in america, that 607 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:12,461 people aren't eating right. 608 00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,062 Most people know you're supposed 609 00:19:14,086 --> 00:19:15,198 to eat more fruits and 610 00:19:15,222 --> 00:19:16,199 vegetables, right? 611 00:19:16,223 --> 00:19:18,133 I don't tell people they should 612 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:19,602 eat more fruits and vegetables. 613 00:19:19,626 --> 00:19:21,170 I tell people... you know, they 614 00:19:21,194 --> 00:19:22,538 say, "how many servings of 615 00:19:22,562 --> 00:19:23,739 fruits and vegetables? 616 00:19:23,763 --> 00:19:25,274 Five a day, six a day, eight a 617 00:19:25,298 --> 00:19:25,708 day?" 618 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:26,675 And I say, "no. 619 00:19:26,699 --> 00:19:27,611 Stop counting. 620 00:19:27,635 --> 00:19:29,378 Don't add fruits and vegetables 621 00:19:29,402 --> 00:19:30,846 to the core of your diet. 622 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:32,548 Make fruits and vegetables the 623 00:19:32,572 --> 00:19:33,081 diet." 624 00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:33,783 You follow that? 625 00:19:33,807 --> 00:19:34,983 Then we can count what things we 626 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:36,185 we eat... a couple of this or a 627 00:19:36,209 --> 00:19:37,353 couple of that... that aren't 628 00:19:37,377 --> 00:19:38,255 fruits and vegetables. 629 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:39,422 But most of what we eat should 630 00:19:39,446 --> 00:19:40,556 be fruits and vegetables, and 631 00:19:40,580 --> 00:19:41,324 our diet should be 632 00:19:41,348 --> 00:19:42,259 vegetable-based. 633 00:19:42,283 --> 00:19:43,326 The mistake that most 634 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:44,660 vegetarians make is they think 635 00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:46,028 they need to make up for lack of 636 00:19:46,052 --> 00:19:47,296 dead, decaying flesh in their 637 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:47,664 diet. 638 00:19:47,688 --> 00:19:48,931 You don't need to make up for 639 00:19:48,955 --> 00:19:49,766 the lack of meat. 640 00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:51,099 You just need to get rid of the 641 00:19:51,123 --> 00:19:52,401 meat, okay? 642 00:19:52,425 --> 00:19:53,969 And then you need to get all of 643 00:19:53,993 --> 00:19:55,304 your calories from whole, 644 00:19:55,328 --> 00:19:56,839 natural foods, not from highly 645 00:19:56,863 --> 00:19:58,173 processed, heated, beated, 646 00:19:58,197 --> 00:19:59,808 treated, chopped, diced, salted, 647 00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:01,344 sugared crap that's being sold 648 00:20:01,368 --> 00:20:02,978 at five times the cost of whole, 649 00:20:03,002 --> 00:20:04,413 natural foods, 'cause that's 650 00:20:04,437 --> 00:20:05,781 what people want. 651 00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:07,316 Tell US why you're here. 652 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:09,051 I am the co-founder and 653 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:10,853 creator of tasty eats, so I 654 00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:12,154 created soy jerky. 655 00:20:12,178 --> 00:20:12,855 Soy jerky. 656 00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:13,357 Yeah. 657 00:20:13,381 --> 00:20:14,823 Now, that's interesting as an 658 00:20:14,847 --> 00:20:16,259 alternative to beef jerky. 659 00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:17,360 Yeah. Absolutely. 660 00:20:17,384 --> 00:20:18,761 Because beef jerky is just 661 00:20:18,785 --> 00:20:20,128 loaded with saturated fat, 662 00:20:20,152 --> 00:20:22,931 sodium, just artery-clogging 663 00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:24,367 ingredients. 664 00:20:24,391 --> 00:20:25,701 Okay. 665 00:20:25,725 --> 00:20:27,836 So, beef is bad, soy is good. 666 00:20:27,860 --> 00:20:29,004 Absolutely. 667 00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:31,206 We're actually anatomically... 668 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,008 We are herbivores. 669 00:20:33,032 --> 00:20:35,678 We're actually not carnivores. 670 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,480 The way our digestive system 671 00:20:37,504 --> 00:20:39,248 works, we're actually better 672 00:20:39,272 --> 00:20:41,049 suited to be vegetarians. 673 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,252 Vegetarians obviously don't 674 00:20:43,276 --> 00:20:45,388 eat meat, and they have a real 675 00:20:45,412 --> 00:20:47,456 problem with foods of animal 676 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,224 origin. 677 00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:51,126 So if you advocate a low-carb 678 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:53,862 diet and... you pretty much are 679 00:20:53,886 --> 00:20:55,698 telling people to eat meat. 680 00:20:55,722 --> 00:20:56,765 It doesn't have to be. 681 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:58,133 We've had patients... a lot of 682 00:20:58,157 --> 00:20:59,335 patients... that have been 683 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,703 vegetarian and have done fine. 684 00:21:00,727 --> 00:21:02,137 I mean, they have to work to do 685 00:21:02,161 --> 00:21:03,472 it and they have to take some 686 00:21:03,496 --> 00:21:04,873 supplements, but they can do it 687 00:21:04,897 --> 00:21:06,942 and they can do fine. 688 00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:09,077 But for the most part, if you 689 00:21:09,101 --> 00:21:11,347 advocate a higher-protein diet, 690 00:21:11,371 --> 00:21:13,549 you're advocating a meat diet. 691 00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:16,319 And people that are vegetarians 692 00:21:16,343 --> 00:21:19,087 look for every reason to not eat 693 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:21,857 meat up to and including trying 694 00:21:21,881 --> 00:21:23,926 to promote this idea that it's 695 00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:26,128 healthy, that the vegetarian way 696 00:21:26,152 --> 00:21:28,130 of life is a healthier way of 697 00:21:28,154 --> 00:21:31,334 life, which is... Not true. 698 00:21:31,358 --> 00:21:33,569 I mean, it's absurd. 699 00:21:33,593 --> 00:21:35,504 There are, sort of, articles to 700 00:21:35,528 --> 00:21:37,373 physicians on how to deal with 701 00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:39,308 patients on vegetarian diets... 702 00:21:39,332 --> 00:21:40,476 Not to get them off the 703 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:41,910 vegetarian diets, but how to, 704 00:21:41,934 --> 00:21:43,446 you know, what kind of treatment 705 00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:44,713 problems you're gonna run into. 706 00:21:44,737 --> 00:21:45,814 I mean, it's an aberration. 707 00:21:45,838 --> 00:21:47,916 It's not the way of man. 708 00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:49,485 We've got a carnivorous g.I. 709 00:21:49,509 --> 00:21:50,019 Tract. 710 00:21:50,043 --> 00:21:51,554 There are two kinds of g.I. 711 00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:52,621 Tracts, basically. 712 00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:54,056 There's a carnivorous and 713 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,591 there's a herbivorous, and 714 00:21:55,615 --> 00:21:57,225 an herbivorous g.I. Tract is, 715 00:21:57,249 --> 00:21:58,994 you know, got multiple stomachs, 716 00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:00,729 a lot of herbivores, because the 717 00:22:00,753 --> 00:22:02,465 nutrient density in plant foods 718 00:22:02,489 --> 00:22:03,999 is so low that animals... cows 719 00:22:04,023 --> 00:22:05,534 that eat grass and things like 720 00:22:05,558 --> 00:22:07,002 that, that's really not very 721 00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:08,637 nutritious, they have to eat all 722 00:22:08,661 --> 00:22:09,238 the time. 723 00:22:09,262 --> 00:22:10,573 A lot of these vegetarian 724 00:22:10,597 --> 00:22:12,107 animals regurgitate their food 725 00:22:12,131 --> 00:22:13,609 and re-chew it and re-swallow 726 00:22:13,633 --> 00:22:13,943 it. 727 00:22:13,967 --> 00:22:15,544 Some of them even eat their own 728 00:22:15,568 --> 00:22:17,012 feces to recycle it to try to 729 00:22:17,036 --> 00:22:18,447 extract every little bit of 730 00:22:18,471 --> 00:22:19,482 nutrient out of it. 731 00:22:19,506 --> 00:22:21,083 But the main thing is they have 732 00:22:21,107 --> 00:22:22,485 to eat all the time, and we 733 00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:23,319 don't do that. 734 00:22:23,343 --> 00:22:24,687 We can eat once day and do 735 00:22:24,711 --> 00:22:25,121 fine. 736 00:22:25,145 --> 00:22:26,355 We can eat once every two or 737 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:27,556 three days and do fine, just 738 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:28,291 like lions can. 739 00:22:28,315 --> 00:22:30,659 We've got a carnivorous g.I. 740 00:22:30,683 --> 00:22:33,228 Tract and vitamin b12, which is 741 00:22:33,252 --> 00:22:35,664 only found in foods of animal 742 00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:37,800 origin, is essential to US. 743 00:22:37,824 --> 00:22:39,535 I mean, if we don't get vitamin 744 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:40,336 b12, we die. 745 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:41,870 It's an essential nutrient. 746 00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:43,606 So that right there, in and of 747 00:22:43,630 --> 00:22:45,374 itself, with nothing else is an 748 00:22:45,398 --> 00:22:47,175 argument against the fact that 749 00:22:47,199 --> 00:22:48,444 our natural state is 750 00:22:48,468 --> 00:22:49,413 vegetarianism. 751 00:22:49,437 --> 00:22:51,471 It's nonsense. 752 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,317 What is commonly referred to 753 00:22:55,341 --> 00:22:56,919 as the low-carb diet, recently 754 00:22:56,943 --> 00:22:58,554 gaining wider media and medical 755 00:22:58,578 --> 00:22:59,955 acceptance reframed as low 756 00:22:59,979 --> 00:23:01,990 glycemic, had its beginnings in 757 00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:04,960 1863 with the first popular diet 758 00:23:04,984 --> 00:23:06,895 book ever written... "banting's 759 00:23:06,919 --> 00:23:08,764 letter on corpulence addressed 760 00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:09,832 to the public." 761 00:23:09,856 --> 00:23:12,000 In 1862, London undertaker 762 00:23:12,024 --> 00:23:15,370 William banting was 65, 5'5" 763 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,564 tall, and weighed 202 pounds. 764 00:23:17,597 --> 00:23:19,575 So fat, in fact, he wrote that 765 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:21,477 he couldn't stoop to tie his 766 00:23:21,501 --> 00:23:23,512 shoes, became winded with every 767 00:23:23,536 --> 00:23:25,581 slight exertion, was losing his 768 00:23:25,605 --> 00:23:27,716 eyesight and hearing, and had to 769 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,652 walk down stairs backwards to 770 00:23:29,676 --> 00:23:31,420 avoid knee and ankle pain. 771 00:23:31,444 --> 00:23:33,556 After 30 years of failure trying 772 00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:35,591 everything we're still advised 773 00:23:35,615 --> 00:23:37,626 to do today, including reducing 774 00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:39,695 fat, cutting calories, and 775 00:23:39,719 --> 00:23:41,830 exercising more, one doctor 776 00:23:41,854 --> 00:23:43,566 finally prescribed a diet that 777 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:45,901 advised him to "abstain as much 778 00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:48,236 as possible from bread, butter, 779 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:49,972 milk, sugar, beer, and 780 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:51,940 potatoes"... which had been the 781 00:23:51,964 --> 00:23:53,375 mainstay of his diet 782 00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:55,310 for years... and eat instead 783 00:23:55,334 --> 00:23:57,646 three meals per day primarily of 784 00:23:57,670 --> 00:23:59,748 meat, fish, poultry or game, 785 00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:01,684 very small amounts of dry, 786 00:24:01,708 --> 00:24:03,786 toasted fruit, any vegetable 787 00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:05,888 except potatoes, tea without 788 00:24:05,912 --> 00:24:08,023 milk and sugar, and dry wine, 789 00:24:08,047 --> 00:24:09,492 and no strict restrictions on 790 00:24:09,516 --> 00:24:10,859 the quantity of food at his 791 00:24:10,883 --> 00:24:12,427 meals. 792 00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:14,963 In August of 1863, banting wrote 793 00:24:14,987 --> 00:24:17,399 in his booklet that at 66 years 794 00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:19,935 of age, he had dropped 35 pounds 795 00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:21,236 in 38 weeks. 796 00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:23,872 And later, 50 pounds by early 797 00:24:23,896 --> 00:24:25,874 1864. 798 00:24:25,898 --> 00:24:27,275 His eyesight and hearing 799 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:28,811 improved, he could exercise 800 00:24:28,835 --> 00:24:30,278 freely, and, yes, he could 801 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:31,680 finally walk down stairs 802 00:24:31,704 --> 00:24:33,882 forwards with perfect ease. 803 00:24:33,906 --> 00:24:35,417 His book became a phenomenal 804 00:24:35,441 --> 00:24:37,119 success, ruffled the feathers of 805 00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:38,687 some in the medical community 806 00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:40,355 and popular press, and his name 807 00:24:40,379 --> 00:24:42,290 became part of the queen's 808 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:44,426 English as a verb meaning "to 809 00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:45,985 diet." 810 00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:49,164 You know, we know that 811 00:24:49,188 --> 00:24:50,966 banting came out with his diet 812 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,568 in 1863, published it, but 813 00:24:52,592 --> 00:24:54,002 what... how did the medical 814 00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:55,037 community respond? 815 00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:56,605 What people don't realize is 816 00:24:56,629 --> 00:24:58,073 that, for the most part, the 817 00:24:58,097 --> 00:24:59,908 medical community decided that 818 00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:01,544 banting was right. 819 00:25:01,568 --> 00:25:03,178 So these diets recommend meat 820 00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:04,880 and green vegetables, and that 821 00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:06,248 was the base of a diet. 822 00:25:06,272 --> 00:25:07,750 If you went to the obesity 823 00:25:07,774 --> 00:25:09,151 textbooks or the medical 824 00:25:09,175 --> 00:25:10,886 textbooks or William osler, who 825 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:12,521 was the most famous physician of 826 00:25:12,545 --> 00:25:15,490 the, you know, turn of the 20th 827 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:16,792 century, the early years of the 828 00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:17,426 20th century. 829 00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:19,027 In his medical textbook, he 830 00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:20,663 says, you know, fat children 831 00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:22,497 come to see me or fat women come 832 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:24,266 to see me, I tell them to give 833 00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:26,068 up carbohydrates, starches, and 834 00:25:26,092 --> 00:25:26,670 sweets. 835 00:25:26,694 --> 00:25:28,336 And you get rid of added fats, 836 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:29,905 as well, by which they meant 837 00:25:29,929 --> 00:25:32,608 butter, lard, you know. 838 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:34,743 So you're eating... the basis of 839 00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:36,579 the medical establishment's 840 00:25:36,603 --> 00:25:38,581 typical diet through the 1960s 841 00:25:38,605 --> 00:25:40,616 would have been some amount of 842 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,384 meat and green vegetables. 843 00:25:42,408 --> 00:25:43,886 Every diet restricted 844 00:25:43,910 --> 00:25:44,987 carbohydrates. 845 00:25:45,011 --> 00:25:46,221 And then the question was 846 00:25:46,245 --> 00:25:47,522 whether or not you're gonna 847 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:48,657 restrict fats, as well. 848 00:25:48,681 --> 00:25:50,793 And this isn't actually through 849 00:25:50,817 --> 00:25:51,394 1910. 850 00:25:51,418 --> 00:25:53,328 Say from 1865 to 1965, for a 851 00:25:53,352 --> 00:25:54,963 century, if you went to a 852 00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:56,932 hospital and were treated for 853 00:25:56,956 --> 00:25:58,867 obesity, you were told to give 854 00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:01,436 up carbohydrates. 855 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:03,038 Now, of course, it's obvious 856 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:04,640 to anyone following the media's 857 00:26:04,664 --> 00:26:06,041 coverage of diet and health 858 00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:07,375 stories that the low-carb 859 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,011 prescription is not conventional 860 00:26:09,035 --> 00:26:10,512 medical advice, begging the 861 00:26:10,536 --> 00:26:12,214 question, "what happened to the 862 00:26:12,238 --> 00:26:13,882 science of nutrition and weight 863 00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:15,483 loss that had guided medicine 864 00:26:15,507 --> 00:26:19,387 for the preceding 100 years?" 865 00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:20,689 You know, in the 1950s, we 866 00:26:20,713 --> 00:26:22,124 started coming up with this idea 867 00:26:22,148 --> 00:26:23,458 that fat causes heart disease, 868 00:26:23,482 --> 00:26:24,860 and if you're gonna tell people 869 00:26:24,884 --> 00:26:26,194 to eat less fat, you've got to 870 00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:27,195 tell them to eat more 871 00:26:27,219 --> 00:26:29,832 carbohydrates. 872 00:26:29,856 --> 00:26:31,967 So this, the idea of the 873 00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:34,569 fattening carbohydrate and the 874 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:37,039 idea of removing carbs first 875 00:26:37,063 --> 00:26:39,608 from a weight-loss diet in the 876 00:26:39,632 --> 00:26:42,144 1960s vanished to be replaced 877 00:26:42,168 --> 00:26:44,346 with the idea that dietary fat 878 00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:46,649 is the problem and carbohydrates 879 00:26:46,673 --> 00:26:48,583 are now... not only are they 880 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:50,653 heart healthy, but the basis of 881 00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:52,821 a good, healthy diet is supposed 882 00:26:52,845 --> 00:26:54,790 to be a lot of carbohydrates. 883 00:26:54,814 --> 00:26:57,893 Jane Brody, the New York times' 884 00:26:57,917 --> 00:27:00,863 personal health reporter, this 885 00:27:00,887 --> 00:27:04,266 is her 1985 "good food book." 886 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:06,601 And the subtitle is "living the 887 00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:08,436 high-carbohydrate way." 888 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:09,604 And she actually says in the 889 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:10,873 book that when she was raised, 890 00:27:10,897 --> 00:27:12,107 she was raised to believe that 891 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:13,709 potatoes, bread, pasta, rice 892 00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:14,678 were fattening. 893 00:27:14,702 --> 00:27:16,511 Lo and behold, they're not, and 894 00:27:16,535 --> 00:27:18,313 you can eat as many of them as 895 00:27:18,337 --> 00:27:19,015 you want. 896 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:20,916 And now a diet becomes... weight 897 00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:22,718 loss diet... becomes the exact 898 00:27:22,742 --> 00:27:24,186 opposite of what it was. 899 00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:25,821 Now it's... a weight loss diet 900 00:27:25,845 --> 00:27:27,222 is low in fat and high in 901 00:27:27,246 --> 00:27:28,924 carbohydrates, and particularly 902 00:27:28,948 --> 00:27:30,292 those carbohydrates that 903 00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:32,027 everybody believed was fattening 904 00:27:32,051 --> 00:27:33,762 until the 1960s... bread, pasta, 905 00:27:33,786 --> 00:27:35,130 potatoes... just don't put fat 906 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:35,564 on it. 907 00:27:35,588 --> 00:27:36,865 Don't put butter on it, don't 908 00:27:36,889 --> 00:27:37,701 put cheese on it. 909 00:27:37,725 --> 00:27:38,901 That's what makes you fat. 910 00:27:38,925 --> 00:27:40,669 And the fascinating thing about 911 00:27:40,693 --> 00:27:42,470 this switch, this paradigm shift 912 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,272 is that there was no evidence to 913 00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:45,041 support it. 914 00:27:45,065 --> 00:27:47,075 There was this belief that fat 915 00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:48,944 caused heart disease by its 916 00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:50,713 effect on cholesterol and 917 00:27:50,737 --> 00:27:51,747 nothing else. 918 00:27:51,771 --> 00:27:53,448 You know, absolutely nothing 919 00:27:53,472 --> 00:27:53,983 else. 920 00:27:54,007 --> 00:27:57,786 We changed at least a century of 921 00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:59,354 established wisdom on what 922 00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:01,123 constituted not just a healthy 923 00:28:01,147 --> 00:28:02,791 diet, but a weight-reduction 924 00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,426 diet based on a belief that 925 00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:05,894 dietary fat caused heart 926 00:28:05,918 --> 00:28:06,929 disease. 927 00:28:06,953 --> 00:28:08,997 You know, we have come out of 928 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:10,598 the era in which fat is 929 00:28:10,622 --> 00:28:11,967 demonized as the bad 930 00:28:11,991 --> 00:28:13,035 macronutrient. 931 00:28:13,059 --> 00:28:14,870 But that legacy is still very 932 00:28:14,894 --> 00:28:15,839 much with US. 933 00:28:15,863 --> 00:28:17,706 I still see that when people are 934 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,207 giving people nutritional 935 00:28:19,231 --> 00:28:20,709 advice, talking about weight 936 00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:22,044 control, I still see the 937 00:28:22,068 --> 00:28:23,478 emphasis on fatty foods and 938 00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:25,047 people talking about high-fat 939 00:28:25,071 --> 00:28:26,581 foods and cutting down on fat 940 00:28:26,605 --> 00:28:28,250 consumption and low-fat foods. 941 00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:30,152 Fat does not make you fat. 942 00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:31,920 This is a very important 943 00:28:31,944 --> 00:28:32,688 concept. 944 00:28:32,712 --> 00:28:34,589 Fat does not make you fat. 945 00:28:34,613 --> 00:28:36,224 What is driving the obesity 946 00:28:36,248 --> 00:28:38,060 epidemic in this country is the 947 00:28:38,084 --> 00:28:39,795 very high consumption of high 948 00:28:39,819 --> 00:28:41,396 glycemic, low-carbohydrate 949 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:42,765 foods, which have been 950 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:45,768 technically manipulated. 951 00:28:45,792 --> 00:28:47,803 The famous framingham heart 952 00:28:47,827 --> 00:28:49,571 study was used to promote 953 00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:51,606 margarine and other foods that 954 00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:53,675 did not contain saturated fat. 955 00:28:53,699 --> 00:28:55,878 But, in fact, this study found 956 00:28:55,902 --> 00:28:57,813 that those who ate the most 957 00:28:57,837 --> 00:28:59,514 saturated fat, the most 958 00:28:59,538 --> 00:29:01,583 cholesterol and even the most 959 00:29:01,607 --> 00:29:03,786 calories weighed the least, had 960 00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:05,020 lower levels of 961 00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:07,255 serum cholesterol, and were more 962 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:08,656 physically active. 963 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,492 So the three biggest risk 964 00:29:10,516 --> 00:29:12,694 factors for heart disease... or 965 00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:14,930 what we consider risk factors... 966 00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:17,065 Were lower in people consuming 967 00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:20,302 more saturated fat. 968 00:29:20,326 --> 00:29:22,204 My food plate is the new 969 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:24,406 graphical representation of the 970 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,274 newly revised 2010 dietary 971 00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:28,110 guidelines for Americans. 972 00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:29,311 The plate replaces the 973 00:29:29,335 --> 00:29:30,813 well-known but confusing food 974 00:29:30,837 --> 00:29:32,414 pyramid in an effort to simplify 975 00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:33,715 the federal government's 976 00:29:33,739 --> 00:29:34,950 at-a-glance nutritional 977 00:29:34,974 --> 00:29:36,484 guidelines intended to promote 978 00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:37,719 health through improved 979 00:29:37,743 --> 00:29:39,087 nutrition. 980 00:29:39,111 --> 00:29:40,789 Using new, more generalized 981 00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:42,524 language, the new guidelines 982 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:44,492 advise US to enjoy our food, but 983 00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:45,228 eat less. 984 00:29:45,252 --> 00:29:46,962 Eat more vegetables, fruits, 985 00:29:46,986 --> 00:29:48,763 whole grains, and fat-free or 986 00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:50,966 1% dairy products and also to 987 00:29:50,990 --> 00:29:53,235 eat less of the foods that are 988 00:29:53,259 --> 00:29:55,503 high in saturated fats, sodium, 989 00:29:55,527 --> 00:29:56,939 and added sugars. 990 00:29:56,963 --> 00:29:58,473 Substantial changes to the 991 00:29:58,497 --> 00:30:00,242 actual recommendations made by 992 00:30:00,266 --> 00:30:01,844 the new food plate are few, 993 00:30:01,868 --> 00:30:04,346 leaving it essentially the same 994 00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:06,014 as the old pyramid. 995 00:30:06,038 --> 00:30:07,749 But what doesn't get much public 996 00:30:07,773 --> 00:30:09,284 attention is the methodology 997 00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:10,986 that has been used to create the 998 00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:12,220 u.s. Diet guidelines. 999 00:30:12,244 --> 00:30:13,788 The guidelines are based on a 1000 00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:15,290 report generated every five 1001 00:30:15,314 --> 00:30:16,859 years by a specially selected 1002 00:30:16,883 --> 00:30:17,793 review panel. 1003 00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:19,561 The panel members decide what 1004 00:30:19,585 --> 00:30:21,496 scientific evidence in testimony 1005 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,198 to include from all that is 1006 00:30:23,222 --> 00:30:23,967 presented. 1007 00:30:23,991 --> 00:30:25,433 What the panel chooses will 1008 00:30:25,457 --> 00:30:27,069 then guide the nation's health 1009 00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:28,670 policies for at least the next 1010 00:30:28,694 --> 00:30:29,838 five years. 1011 00:30:29,862 --> 00:30:31,106 I mean, for years, the 1012 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:32,607 mainstream has been telling US 1013 00:30:32,631 --> 00:30:34,142 academicians, and those are the 1014 00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:35,443 people that the government 1015 00:30:35,467 --> 00:30:36,945 always turns to, all the usual 1016 00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:38,513 suspects, when they want to have 1017 00:30:38,537 --> 00:30:40,115 a conference to decide how to do 1018 00:30:40,139 --> 00:30:40,749 something. 1019 00:30:40,773 --> 00:30:42,184 They go after the mainstream, 1020 00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:43,551 and the mainstream has been 1021 00:30:43,575 --> 00:30:45,220 wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, 1022 00:30:45,244 --> 00:30:47,122 nutritionally, over the past 20 1023 00:30:47,146 --> 00:30:48,356 or 30 years. 1024 00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:50,625 And so they get the advice from 1025 00:30:50,649 --> 00:30:52,928 people that give them incorrect 1026 00:30:52,952 --> 00:30:55,197 advice, and they act on it, and 1027 00:30:55,221 --> 00:30:57,799 then we all suffer from it. 1028 00:30:57,823 --> 00:30:59,868 From the start, our dietary 1029 00:30:59,892 --> 00:31:02,037 recommendations have been based 1030 00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:03,805 as much on politics as on 1031 00:31:03,829 --> 00:31:04,673 science. 1032 00:31:04,697 --> 00:31:07,042 The first set of dietary goals 1033 00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:09,111 were written by political 1034 00:31:09,135 --> 00:31:11,479 staffers, not by scientists or 1035 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:12,780 nutritionists. 1036 00:31:12,804 --> 00:31:15,317 They were based then, that first 1037 00:31:15,341 --> 00:31:17,519 set, on the as-yet unproven 1038 00:31:17,543 --> 00:31:19,754 theory that reducing dietary 1039 00:31:19,778 --> 00:31:22,224 fat would reduce heart disease, 1040 00:31:22,248 --> 00:31:24,659 diabetes, and obesity. 1041 00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:26,261 They directed Americans to 1042 00:31:26,285 --> 00:31:28,096 consume less fat, less sodium, 1043 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,597 less saturated fat, more 1044 00:31:29,621 --> 00:31:31,033 carbohydrate, and these 1045 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,800 recommendations have remained 1046 00:31:32,824 --> 00:31:35,703 remarkably consistent for 30 1047 00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:37,405 years. 1048 00:31:37,429 --> 00:31:39,241 They come right out and they 1049 00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:40,909 actually say vegetarian for 1050 00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:42,377 kind of the first time. 1051 00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:43,979 It's even more grain, more 1052 00:31:44,003 --> 00:31:45,747 legume-based, a de-emphasis in 1053 00:31:45,771 --> 00:31:47,549 animal-based proteins, which, 1054 00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:49,417 for me, is absolute madness and 1055 00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:51,286 is definitely driving the train 1056 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:52,587 in the wrong direction. 1057 00:31:52,611 --> 00:31:56,758 And it's further problematic 1058 00:31:56,782 --> 00:31:59,227 that there's no distinction made 1059 00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:01,229 when they say plant-based 1060 00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:02,830 proteins or grains. 1061 00:32:02,854 --> 00:32:05,433 A snackwell or a similar, like, 1062 00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:07,902 highly refined, high-fructose 1063 00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:10,305 containing item is lumped in 1064 00:32:10,329 --> 00:32:12,540 right along with a bowl of 1065 00:32:12,564 --> 00:32:15,077 steel-cut oats or pearled 1066 00:32:15,101 --> 00:32:16,111 barley. 1067 00:32:16,135 --> 00:32:17,479 Few people are eating those 1068 00:32:17,503 --> 00:32:19,081 types of foods, though, and even 1069 00:32:19,105 --> 00:32:20,548 for me, those are not optimum 1070 00:32:20,572 --> 00:32:21,050 foods. 1071 00:32:21,074 --> 00:32:22,717 Those are marginal for the most 1072 00:32:22,741 --> 00:32:24,352 part, which makes me sound like 1073 00:32:24,376 --> 00:32:25,988 a crazy person, but let's take 1074 00:32:26,012 --> 00:32:27,489 that, then, further steps of 1075 00:32:27,513 --> 00:32:29,157 refinement and take that 1076 00:32:29,181 --> 00:32:30,858 steel-cut oat and make it 1077 00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:32,995 instant oats, which we know that 1078 00:32:33,019 --> 00:32:34,196 the glycemic and 1079 00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:35,964 Insulin-generating effects 1080 00:32:35,988 --> 00:32:38,100 of that type of food are so much 1081 00:32:38,124 --> 00:32:39,934 more powerful than the less 1082 00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,136 processed forms. 1083 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,006 It's somewhat disheartening. 1084 00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:45,940 I went to a farmer's co-op in 1085 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:47,809 Arkansas once and went in there 1086 00:32:47,833 --> 00:32:49,444 and started looking at the 1087 00:32:49,468 --> 00:32:50,979 labels on the feed bags. 1088 00:32:51,003 --> 00:32:52,580 And this guy comes over, and he 1089 00:32:52,604 --> 00:32:54,182 asks me if he could help me and 1090 00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:55,750 I told him kind of what I was 1091 00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:57,319 doing and that I was writing a 1092 00:32:57,343 --> 00:32:58,920 book on nutrition, and I wanted 1093 00:32:58,944 --> 00:33:00,255 to see how you fattened up 1094 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:01,057 animals. 1095 00:33:01,081 --> 00:33:02,357 And he said, "well, you know, 1096 00:33:02,381 --> 00:33:03,391 the guy that does this is 1097 00:33:03,415 --> 00:33:03,892 upstairs. 1098 00:33:03,916 --> 00:33:05,093 Let me take you up, and he can 1099 00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:05,728 talk to you." 1100 00:33:05,752 --> 00:33:06,961 So we go up, and the guy pulls 1101 00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:09,664 out his book... his manual of 1102 00:33:09,688 --> 00:33:11,266 animal feeding. 1103 00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:12,500 I think it was called... he 1104 00:33:12,524 --> 00:33:13,768 looks down there and he says, 1105 00:33:13,792 --> 00:33:15,170 "yeah, this is where we come up 1106 00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:16,538 with our formulas to, you know, 1107 00:33:16,562 --> 00:33:17,905 to fatten cows, to fatten hogs, 1108 00:33:17,929 --> 00:33:18,973 to do this, to do that." 1109 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:20,842 And so he made me some copies of 1110 00:33:20,866 --> 00:33:22,644 these things, and so I took them 1111 00:33:22,668 --> 00:33:24,412 home and I ran them through my 1112 00:33:24,436 --> 00:33:26,248 nutritional computer just to see 1113 00:33:26,272 --> 00:33:27,315 how it came out. 1114 00:33:27,339 --> 00:33:29,451 And it came out almost to the 1115 00:33:29,475 --> 00:33:31,286 percent exactly what the 1116 00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:33,155 u.s.d.a. Food pyramid is. 1117 00:33:33,179 --> 00:33:35,257 So farmers basically use the 1118 00:33:35,281 --> 00:33:37,492 u.s.d.a. Food pyramid to fatten 1119 00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:38,693 their animals. 1120 00:33:38,717 --> 00:33:41,029 And so I refer to it as the feed 1121 00:33:41,053 --> 00:33:42,430 lot pyramid. 1122 00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:43,965 Now with initial preparations 1123 00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:45,467 complete, it's time to start at 1124 00:33:45,491 --> 00:33:47,001 the beginning of human evolution 1125 00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,870 to see where it leads US. 1126 00:33:48,894 --> 00:33:49,772 I traveled to the 1127 00:33:49,796 --> 00:33:51,005 university of Colorado in 1128 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:52,240 fort Collins to meet with 1129 00:33:52,264 --> 00:33:53,575 america's leading expert in 1130 00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:55,243 evolutionary nutrition. 1131 00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:57,079 Professor loren cordain. 1132 00:33:57,103 --> 00:33:58,413 The evolution by natural 1133 00:33:58,437 --> 00:33:59,847 selection is the most powerful 1134 00:33:59,871 --> 00:34:01,183 idea in all of medicine and 1135 00:34:01,207 --> 00:34:01,850 biology. 1136 00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:03,685 It's only been within the last 1137 00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:05,620 decade, maybe 15 years, that the 1138 00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:07,222 scientific and nutritional 1139 00:34:07,246 --> 00:34:08,990 communities have become aware 1140 00:34:09,014 --> 00:34:10,758 that, indeed, our nutritional 1141 00:34:10,782 --> 00:34:12,594 requirements are shaped by our 1142 00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:13,595 evolution. 1143 00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:16,231 Probably about 1987, I read the 1144 00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:18,900 classic paper by Dr. Boyd eaton 1145 00:34:18,924 --> 00:34:20,302 from Emory university called 1146 00:34:20,326 --> 00:34:21,836 "paleolithic nutrition" that was 1147 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:23,238 published in the new england 1148 00:34:23,262 --> 00:34:24,306 journal of medicine. 1149 00:34:24,330 --> 00:34:25,840 And I thought that was about the 1150 00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:27,342 best idea I'd ever heard of in 1151 00:34:27,366 --> 00:34:27,876 my life. 1152 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,245 And being somewhat of a 1153 00:34:30,269 --> 00:34:33,348 obsessive personality, I decided 1154 00:34:33,372 --> 00:34:35,150 to follow up on this. 1155 00:34:35,174 --> 00:34:36,718 And after I read the article, I 1156 00:34:36,742 --> 00:34:38,253 went out, and there were 60 or 1157 00:34:38,277 --> 00:34:39,754 70 references to the article. 1158 00:34:39,778 --> 00:34:41,323 I went out and got every one of 1159 00:34:41,347 --> 00:34:42,890 those, and I read every one of 1160 00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:43,359 those. 1161 00:34:43,383 --> 00:34:44,826 And if you're a scientist, you 1162 00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:46,294 realize that every article has 1163 00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:47,729 references, and you basically 1164 00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:49,297 can reference every paper that's 1165 00:34:49,321 --> 00:34:51,133 ever been published ever. 1166 00:34:51,157 --> 00:34:53,235 And so I started to read these 1167 00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:55,437 articles, and I started to put 1168 00:34:55,461 --> 00:34:56,571 them in piles. 1169 00:34:56,595 --> 00:34:58,473 They started to form these 1170 00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,542 patterns, like milk, problems 1171 00:35:00,566 --> 00:35:02,544 with drinking milk, problems 1172 00:35:02,568 --> 00:35:04,546 with eating grains, problems 1173 00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:06,381 with vegetable oil, and so 1174 00:35:06,405 --> 00:35:07,049 forth. 1175 00:35:07,073 --> 00:35:10,152 Then, I started to file them and 1176 00:35:10,176 --> 00:35:11,819 you see these filing cabinets 1177 00:35:11,843 --> 00:35:12,488 in here. 1178 00:35:12,512 --> 00:35:14,156 I now probably have 10 or 15, 1179 00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:15,957 20,000 scientific articles, and 1180 00:35:15,981 --> 00:35:17,759 they started to form subpatterns 1181 00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:19,594 and have patterns in blah, blah, 1182 00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:20,396 blah, blah. 1183 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:21,996 And so I started to get this 1184 00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:23,631 insight into the whole thing, 1185 00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:25,367 and one of the days, finally in 1186 00:35:25,391 --> 00:35:26,934 the early '90s, I got up the 1187 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:28,470 courage to call Boyd eaton, 1188 00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:30,172 'cause he was kind of my hero. 1189 00:35:30,196 --> 00:35:32,140 Called him up on the telephone, 1190 00:35:32,164 --> 00:35:34,041 and I very... he's a gentleman 1191 00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:35,877 by the true sense of the word 1192 00:35:35,901 --> 00:35:37,512 "gentleman"... and he, of 1193 00:35:37,536 --> 00:35:39,447 course, entertained a telephone 1194 00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:41,216 conversation from a complete 1195 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:43,117 stranger for about 45 minutes. 1196 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:44,086 And at the end of the 1197 00:35:44,110 --> 00:35:45,353 conversation, he goes, "well, 1198 00:35:45,377 --> 00:35:46,721 sounds to me like you know more 1199 00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:47,722 about this than I do." 1200 00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:49,324 To better illustrate the 1201 00:35:49,348 --> 00:35:50,725 concept of evolutionary 1202 00:35:50,749 --> 00:35:52,394 nutrition, professor cordain 1203 00:35:52,418 --> 00:35:54,061 took me down to the football 1204 00:35:54,085 --> 00:35:55,730 field to give human dietary 1205 00:35:55,754 --> 00:35:57,332 evolution a sense of scale. 1206 00:35:57,356 --> 00:35:59,567 Two million years ago was the 1207 00:35:59,591 --> 00:36:01,436 very first appearance of a 1208 00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:03,571 member... one of our ancestors 1209 00:36:03,595 --> 00:36:05,072 called homo erectus. 1210 00:36:05,096 --> 00:36:07,309 And so we believe that this is 1211 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:09,477 the first member of the human 1212 00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:11,846 genus "homo," which means "man." 1213 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,848 And we believe that this is a 1214 00:36:13,872 --> 00:36:15,983 crucial step in the evolution of 1215 00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:17,785 the human diet, so this is 1216 00:36:17,809 --> 00:36:19,654 basically the starting point, 1217 00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:21,556 and we can go back 1/2 million 1218 00:36:21,580 --> 00:36:23,458 years earlier, and that's when 1219 00:36:23,482 --> 00:36:25,493 the first stone tools were made. 1220 00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:27,329 But the first appearance of 1221 00:36:27,353 --> 00:36:29,297 people that were anatomically 1222 00:36:29,321 --> 00:36:31,433 very similar to US from the head 1223 00:36:31,457 --> 00:36:33,401 down starts about two million 1224 00:36:33,425 --> 00:36:34,960 years ago. 1225 00:36:35,927 --> 00:36:37,305 Then homo erectus leaves 1226 00:36:37,329 --> 00:36:41,142 Africa and crosses into Europe. 1227 00:36:41,166 --> 00:36:42,577 We find homo erectus for the 1228 00:36:42,601 --> 00:36:44,011 first time in a place called 1229 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:45,046 dmanisi. 1230 00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:48,049 Dmanisi is dated to about 1.7 to 1231 00:36:48,073 --> 00:36:50,418 1.8 million years ago. 1232 00:36:50,442 --> 00:36:52,520 This is the first time we see 1233 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:54,088 homo erectus moving to 1234 00:36:54,112 --> 00:36:55,923 40 degrees north latitude. 1235 00:36:55,947 --> 00:36:57,525 Now, the crucial idea at 1236 00:36:57,549 --> 00:36:59,361 40 degrees north latitude is 1237 00:36:59,385 --> 00:37:00,995 that plant foods are not 1238 00:37:01,019 --> 00:37:02,830 available all year round, so 1239 00:37:02,854 --> 00:37:04,766 there's a number of months out 1240 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:06,834 of the year when there's nothing 1241 00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:08,436 to eat but animal foods. 1242 00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:10,338 After we pick up the fossil 1243 00:37:10,362 --> 00:37:12,540 record from dmanisi and Georgia, 1244 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,276 the homo erectus spreads 1245 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:16,511 throughout the rest of Asia, and 1246 00:37:16,535 --> 00:37:18,646 they go east to a site in China 1247 00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:20,748 roughly 1.65 million years ago. 1248 00:37:20,772 --> 00:37:22,216 And they spread all throughout 1249 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,551 Asia up to about 40 degrees 1250 00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:24,752 north latitude, but they 1251 00:37:24,776 --> 00:37:26,087 couldn't crack much higher 1252 00:37:26,111 --> 00:37:27,622 latitudes than that because they 1253 00:37:27,646 --> 00:37:29,190 probably hadn't mastered fire by 1254 00:37:29,214 --> 00:37:30,214 that time. 1255 00:37:30,316 --> 00:37:32,327 Then, we have homo spreading 1256 00:37:32,351 --> 00:37:34,195 from Southern Europe on into 1257 00:37:34,219 --> 00:37:36,197 Northern Europe, and we can go 1258 00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:38,065 to boxgrove in england about 1259 00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:40,302 500,000 years ago between 1260 00:37:40,326 --> 00:37:41,569 400,000 and 500,000 years ago 1261 00:37:41,593 --> 00:37:42,737 where we could pick up the 1262 00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:44,539 fossil record there. 1263 00:37:44,563 --> 00:37:46,107 Boxgrove revealed a rich 1264 00:37:46,131 --> 00:37:47,575 fossil record of big-game 1265 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,243 animals and the butchering of 1266 00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:50,912 large herbivores, including a 1267 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:51,680 rhinoceros. 1268 00:37:51,704 --> 00:37:53,515 Another famous European site is 1269 00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:55,450 in schonigen, Germany, dated to 1270 00:37:55,474 --> 00:37:57,419 400,000 years ago where a series 1271 00:37:57,443 --> 00:37:59,253 of wooden throwing Spears were 1272 00:37:59,277 --> 00:37:59,855 found. 1273 00:37:59,879 --> 00:38:00,988 Radiocarbon dating has 1274 00:38:01,012 --> 00:38:02,357 confirmed that three of the 1275 00:38:02,381 --> 00:38:03,925 wooden Spears found there are 1276 00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:05,427 the oldest complete hunting 1277 00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:06,528 weapons ever found. 1278 00:38:06,552 --> 00:38:08,229 They were found with more than 1279 00:38:08,253 --> 00:38:10,031 10,000 animal bones, mostly from 1280 00:38:10,055 --> 00:38:11,866 horses, including many that were 1281 00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:13,368 butchered for edible meat. 1282 00:38:13,392 --> 00:38:15,503 Then, at about 230,000 years 1283 00:38:15,527 --> 00:38:17,705 ago, we first see evidence of 1284 00:38:17,729 --> 00:38:19,541 neanderthals in Europe. 1285 00:38:19,565 --> 00:38:21,108 And the evidence suggests that 1286 00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:22,510 like early homo, they were 1287 00:38:22,534 --> 00:38:23,978 highly dependent upon animal 1288 00:38:24,002 --> 00:38:24,480 foods. 1289 00:38:24,504 --> 00:38:26,348 As our brain size increased, 1290 00:38:26,372 --> 00:38:28,115 our behavioral sophistication 1291 00:38:28,139 --> 00:38:29,784 also increased, and we were 1292 00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:32,053 better able to hunt animal food. 1293 00:38:32,077 --> 00:38:33,254 We weren't dependent upon 1294 00:38:33,278 --> 00:38:33,889 scavenging. 1295 00:38:33,913 --> 00:38:35,390 So more and more of the fossil 1296 00:38:35,414 --> 00:38:36,958 evidence suggests that more and 1297 00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:38,560 more animal food was included in 1298 00:38:38,584 --> 00:38:39,362 the diet. 1299 00:38:39,386 --> 00:38:41,463 It takes a degree of behavioral 1300 00:38:41,487 --> 00:38:43,398 sophistication to be able to 1301 00:38:43,422 --> 00:38:45,533 make a sharp stone stick to the 1302 00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:46,701 end of a spear. 1303 00:38:46,725 --> 00:38:48,102 Now, did diet have anything 1304 00:38:48,126 --> 00:38:49,504 to do with our sophistication? 1305 00:38:49,528 --> 00:38:50,905 We belive that it does. 1306 00:38:50,929 --> 00:38:52,574 We believe that increasingly, we 1307 00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:54,175 started to include more omega-3 1308 00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:55,677 fatty acids in our diet. 1309 00:38:55,701 --> 00:38:57,579 We believe that as we became 1310 00:38:57,603 --> 00:38:59,347 more and more dependent on 1311 00:38:59,371 --> 00:39:01,383 omega-3 fatty acids, that also 1312 00:39:01,407 --> 00:39:03,217 facilitated increased brain 1313 00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:05,119 growth, increased behavioral 1314 00:39:05,143 --> 00:39:06,088 sophistication. 1315 00:39:06,112 --> 00:39:07,855 So by following this dietary 1316 00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:09,424 path here, we were getting 1317 00:39:09,448 --> 00:39:11,058 smarter and, you know, more 1318 00:39:11,082 --> 00:39:12,927 sophisticated and better able to 1319 00:39:12,951 --> 00:39:14,362 survive and take care of 1320 00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:15,129 ourselves. 1321 00:39:15,153 --> 00:39:15,964 Literally. 1322 00:39:15,988 --> 00:39:17,699 The evolution of the human brain 1323 00:39:17,723 --> 00:39:19,401 was dependent upon animal foods. 1324 00:39:19,425 --> 00:39:20,935 We would not be sitting here 1325 00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:22,604 speaking to one another had not 1326 00:39:22,628 --> 00:39:24,005 those guys way back there 1327 00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:25,873 started to eat animal foods. 1328 00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:27,174 So, as I understand it, then, 1329 00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:28,242 right next door is another 1330 00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:29,276 critical time in history. 1331 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,145 That's absolutely right. 1332 00:39:31,169 --> 00:39:33,147 192,000 years ago, in Africa, 1333 00:39:33,171 --> 00:39:35,216 for the very first time, we see 1334 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,051 anatomically modern humans 1335 00:39:37,075 --> 00:39:37,920 appearing. 1336 00:39:37,944 --> 00:39:39,587 192,000 years ago. 1337 00:39:39,611 --> 00:39:41,288 So the next stop along the 1338 00:39:41,312 --> 00:39:43,024 line is when things really took 1339 00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:44,358 a big hit. 1340 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:45,560 Well, that's right. 1341 00:39:45,584 --> 00:39:47,061 When we look at anatomically 1342 00:39:47,085 --> 00:39:48,730 modern humans, they left Africa, 1343 00:39:48,754 --> 00:39:50,632 perhaps, give or take, 20,000 1344 00:39:50,656 --> 00:39:54,068 years by about 70,000 years ago, 1345 00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:55,169 and they headed east again. 1346 00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:57,405 They went towards Australia. 1347 00:39:57,429 --> 00:39:59,707 So about 45,000 years ago, we 1348 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:02,209 think anatomically modern humans 1349 00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:02,911 entered Europe. 1350 00:40:02,935 --> 00:40:04,111 And we also believe that they 1351 00:40:04,135 --> 00:40:05,413 were behaviorally modern by that 1352 00:40:05,437 --> 00:40:05,748 time. 1353 00:40:05,772 --> 00:40:07,248 We believe that they had full 1354 00:40:07,272 --> 00:40:08,349 capacity for speech. 1355 00:40:08,373 --> 00:40:09,784 We see sophistication in the 1356 00:40:09,808 --> 00:40:10,653 toolmaking. 1357 00:40:10,677 --> 00:40:12,687 We see art, we see burying of 1358 00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:14,388 the dead, we see musical 1359 00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,090 instruments, we see cave 1360 00:40:16,114 --> 00:40:16,991 paintings. 1361 00:40:17,015 --> 00:40:17,525 Wow. 1362 00:40:17,549 --> 00:40:18,060 Yes. 1363 00:40:18,084 --> 00:40:19,527 And so we actually... there's 1364 00:40:19,551 --> 00:40:21,128 famous cave paintings in Europe 1365 00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:22,530 where we actually see these 1366 00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:24,566 humans hunting wild animals. 1367 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:25,567 That's in France. 1368 00:40:25,591 --> 00:40:26,868 In France. That's right. 1369 00:40:26,892 --> 00:40:27,269 Yeah. 1370 00:40:27,293 --> 00:40:29,403 Let's shuffle forward to about 1371 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,539 10,000 years ago, which is the 1372 00:40:31,563 --> 00:40:33,407 half-yard line. 1373 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:34,609 The half-yard line? 1374 00:40:34,633 --> 00:40:36,177 The half-yard line, indeed. 1375 00:40:36,201 --> 00:40:37,545 That was 10,000 years ago. 1376 00:40:37,569 --> 00:40:38,713 Now, that seems to be 1377 00:40:38,737 --> 00:40:40,281 historically remote, but on an 1378 00:40:40,305 --> 00:40:41,883 evolutionary basis, it's a drop 1379 00:40:41,907 --> 00:40:43,184 in the bucket, isn't it? 1380 00:40:43,208 --> 00:40:46,077 Let's shuffle on up there. 1381 00:40:49,481 --> 00:40:52,026 And we look back, and that's 1382 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:53,194 a long way. 1383 00:40:53,218 --> 00:40:54,962 From that point until here, 1384 00:40:54,986 --> 00:40:56,998 every human being on the planet 1385 00:40:57,022 --> 00:40:58,766 ate wild, plant, and animal 1386 00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:00,702 foods that they either hunt or 1387 00:41:00,726 --> 00:41:01,369 gather. 1388 00:41:01,393 --> 00:41:03,738 From that point to here, nobody 1389 00:41:03,762 --> 00:41:05,673 drank milk or ate grain. 1390 00:41:05,697 --> 00:41:08,042 So, for the first time, we 1391 00:41:08,066 --> 00:41:10,244 see humans eating dairy and 1392 00:41:10,268 --> 00:41:11,513 wheat, and then there was 1393 00:41:11,537 --> 00:41:12,914 another big change with that, 1394 00:41:12,938 --> 00:41:13,380 right? 1395 00:41:13,404 --> 00:41:14,216 That's right. 1396 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:15,650 With the industrial revolution, 1397 00:41:15,674 --> 00:41:17,018 we started to include refined 1398 00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:18,285 sugars, refined grains, and 1399 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:19,487 mixtures of these refined 1400 00:41:19,511 --> 00:41:20,922 sugars, refined grains, refined 1401 00:41:20,946 --> 00:41:21,323 oils. 1402 00:41:21,347 --> 00:41:22,690 We call them processed foods. 1403 00:41:22,714 --> 00:41:24,091 These are the ubiquitous foods 1404 00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:25,392 in the typical American diet 1405 00:41:25,416 --> 00:41:26,794 that comprise more than 70% of 1406 00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:28,062 the average calories in the 1407 00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:28,830 American diet. 1408 00:41:28,854 --> 00:41:29,564 Right now? 1409 00:41:29,588 --> 00:41:30,298 Right now. 1410 00:41:30,322 --> 00:41:31,766 70% of everything that we eat 1411 00:41:31,790 --> 00:41:33,000 stems from the industrial 1412 00:41:33,024 --> 00:41:34,001 period, essentially? 1413 00:41:34,025 --> 00:41:35,236 The industrial period 1414 00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:35,804 forward. 1415 00:41:35,828 --> 00:41:37,271 And actually, processed foods 1416 00:41:37,295 --> 00:41:38,740 really didn't get going until 1417 00:41:38,764 --> 00:41:40,842 about 1900, 1920, so let's go 1418 00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:42,977 down to that point here on our 1419 00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:44,779 evolutionary time scale. 1420 00:41:44,803 --> 00:41:47,682 And let me point down here to 1421 00:41:47,706 --> 00:41:48,551 this. 1422 00:41:48,575 --> 00:41:51,452 If we take a look at the last 1423 00:41:51,476 --> 00:41:53,855 fifth of the last inch... 1424 00:41:53,879 --> 00:41:55,389 Right in front of your 1425 00:41:55,413 --> 00:41:56,191 fingernail. 1426 00:41:56,215 --> 00:41:57,559 Right in front of my 1427 00:41:57,583 --> 00:41:58,360 fingernail. 1428 00:41:58,384 --> 00:42:00,094 The last fifth of the last inch 1429 00:42:00,118 --> 00:42:01,663 of this entire evolutionary 1430 00:42:01,687 --> 00:42:03,430 time scale, that's when humanity 1431 00:42:03,454 --> 00:42:04,966 started to generally eat 1432 00:42:04,990 --> 00:42:06,067 processed foods. 1433 00:42:06,091 --> 00:42:07,035 Now, tell me. 1434 00:42:07,059 --> 00:42:08,803 My god, when you look back at 1435 00:42:08,827 --> 00:42:10,772 that distance to here, is it any 1436 00:42:10,796 --> 00:42:12,339 wonder that we are having 1437 00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:13,775 trouble with our diet? 1438 00:42:13,799 --> 00:42:15,710 We are so far off base from what 1439 00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:17,645 we are genetically programmed to 1440 00:42:17,669 --> 00:42:18,113 eat. 1441 00:42:18,137 --> 00:42:19,547 The second leg of our search 1442 00:42:19,571 --> 00:42:21,015 takes US to New York City for US 1443 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:21,849 to meet with the 1444 00:42:21,873 --> 00:42:22,784 American museum of 1445 00:42:22,808 --> 00:42:23,652 natural history's 1446 00:42:23,676 --> 00:42:25,620 Gary j. Sawyer, physical 1447 00:42:25,644 --> 00:42:26,954 anthropologist. 1448 00:42:26,978 --> 00:42:28,422 Sawyer specializes in the 1449 00:42:28,446 --> 00:42:30,124 forensic reconstruction of our 1450 00:42:30,148 --> 00:42:31,826 extinct relatives based on the 1451 00:42:31,850 --> 00:42:33,394 most up-to-date evidence of 1452 00:42:33,418 --> 00:42:35,763 where and how our ancestors 1453 00:42:35,787 --> 00:42:36,599 lived. 1454 00:42:36,623 --> 00:42:39,767 We do not know how to eat 1455 00:42:39,791 --> 00:42:41,102 properly. 1456 00:42:41,126 --> 00:42:43,170 We feed ourselves, but we fail 1457 00:42:43,194 --> 00:42:45,139 to give ourselves the proper 1458 00:42:45,163 --> 00:42:46,041 nutrition. 1459 00:42:46,065 --> 00:42:47,975 And after a while, it becomes 1460 00:42:47,999 --> 00:42:50,011 cumulative, and that's when we 1461 00:42:50,035 --> 00:42:52,013 start developing degenerative 1462 00:42:52,037 --> 00:42:53,615 diseases. 1463 00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,049 I'd like to welcome you to the 1464 00:42:55,073 --> 00:42:56,183 hall of human origins. 1465 00:42:56,207 --> 00:42:57,619 We're gonna take a big leap in 1466 00:42:57,643 --> 00:43:00,187 time now into what we call the 1467 00:43:00,211 --> 00:43:02,256 very early paleolithic. 1468 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,424 If you'll follow me over this 1469 00:43:03,448 --> 00:43:04,659 way, I'll be able to explain it 1470 00:43:04,683 --> 00:43:05,060 to you. 1471 00:43:05,084 --> 00:43:06,551 Great. 1472 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:10,331 We're now 2 million years 1473 00:43:10,355 --> 00:43:11,266 into the past. 1474 00:43:11,290 --> 00:43:13,367 What I'd like to point out is 1475 00:43:13,391 --> 00:43:15,336 the environment where these 1476 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,470 people lived. 1477 00:43:16,494 --> 00:43:18,572 All open grassland... what we 1478 00:43:18,596 --> 00:43:19,674 call Savanna. 1479 00:43:19,698 --> 00:43:21,776 There's trees in the background, 1480 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,444 but it's very open, very 1481 00:43:23,468 --> 00:43:25,379 dangerous territory for them. 1482 00:43:25,403 --> 00:43:26,681 So when we hear that the 1483 00:43:26,705 --> 00:43:28,182 earliest modern humans came from 1484 00:43:28,206 --> 00:43:29,383 Africa and came from the 1485 00:43:29,407 --> 00:43:30,318 Savanna, this is a 1486 00:43:30,342 --> 00:43:31,452 representation of that? 1487 00:43:31,476 --> 00:43:32,987 This is an excellent 1488 00:43:33,011 --> 00:43:34,088 representation. 1489 00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:35,957 What I'd like, now, to do is 1490 00:43:35,981 --> 00:43:37,291 show you something. 1491 00:43:37,315 --> 00:43:38,559 Look at that. 1492 00:43:38,583 --> 00:43:39,593 All right. 1493 00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:41,462 This is a fossilized skull, 1494 00:43:41,486 --> 00:43:43,397 approximately 2 million years 1495 00:43:43,421 --> 00:43:46,668 old... in excellent condition. 1496 00:43:46,692 --> 00:43:51,939 To find a specimen like this so 1497 00:43:51,963 --> 00:43:54,175 perfectly preserved... these 1498 00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,543 people were now becoming more 1499 00:43:56,567 --> 00:43:58,780 and more meat eaters, and we 1500 00:43:58,804 --> 00:44:01,248 feel that this had a great deal 1501 00:44:01,272 --> 00:44:03,417 to do with expansion of the 1502 00:44:03,441 --> 00:44:04,152 brain. 1503 00:44:04,176 --> 00:44:06,620 Our bodies evolved the way they 1504 00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:08,055 are now quickly. 1505 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,524 Our brain, however, took awhile 1506 00:44:10,548 --> 00:44:11,693 to catch up. 1507 00:44:11,717 --> 00:44:13,928 However, with a high-protein 1508 00:44:13,952 --> 00:44:16,397 diet... that's what they had... 1509 00:44:16,421 --> 00:44:18,565 That was the secret for 1510 00:44:18,589 --> 00:44:20,267 insufflating our brain and for 1511 00:44:20,291 --> 00:44:22,103 the greater intelligence that we 1512 00:44:22,127 --> 00:44:22,871 have today. 1513 00:44:22,895 --> 00:44:24,271 Does that mean growing our 1514 00:44:24,295 --> 00:44:24,707 brain? 1515 00:44:24,731 --> 00:44:26,440 Yes, it does. 1516 00:44:26,464 --> 00:44:27,675 It does, yeah. 1517 00:44:27,699 --> 00:44:29,510 They would actually crack open 1518 00:44:29,534 --> 00:44:31,412 the skulls of these animals and 1519 00:44:31,436 --> 00:44:33,180 actually get the brain tissue 1520 00:44:33,204 --> 00:44:34,648 out... which is high in 1521 00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:36,450 cholesterol... break open the 1522 00:44:36,474 --> 00:44:39,586 long bones and get the marrow 1523 00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:41,622 out and eat that. 1524 00:44:41,646 --> 00:44:45,359 So already, early fossil humans 1525 00:44:45,383 --> 00:44:47,929 were consuming meat. 1526 00:44:47,953 --> 00:44:49,463 And... and that made a big 1527 00:44:49,487 --> 00:44:51,098 difference in our evolution and 1528 00:44:51,122 --> 00:44:52,399 how our brains developed. 1529 00:44:52,423 --> 00:44:54,468 We believe it made all the 1530 00:44:54,492 --> 00:44:56,537 difference in our evolution. 1531 00:44:56,561 --> 00:44:59,440 If we had stayed as vegetarians, 1532 00:44:59,464 --> 00:45:02,176 in all probability, I wouldn't 1533 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,745 be speaking to you on this 1534 00:45:03,769 --> 00:45:05,212 particular high level of 1535 00:45:05,236 --> 00:45:05,981 intellect. 1536 00:45:06,005 --> 00:45:10,651 This is a diorama that features 1537 00:45:10,675 --> 00:45:13,220 anatomically modern humans just 1538 00:45:13,244 --> 00:45:15,556 like you and I, albeit, very 1539 00:45:15,580 --> 00:45:17,759 primitive. 1540 00:45:17,783 --> 00:45:19,626 If you look at the background, 1541 00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:21,328 they're living in a tundra 1542 00:45:21,352 --> 00:45:23,297 environment, but they've already 1543 00:45:23,321 --> 00:45:25,032 constructed a house, a very 1544 00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:26,600 interesting house made of 1545 00:45:26,624 --> 00:45:27,634 mammoth bones. 1546 00:45:27,658 --> 00:45:29,103 It's all mammoth bones? 1547 00:45:29,127 --> 00:45:30,537 It's all mammoth bones, 1548 00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:31,173 correct. 1549 00:45:31,197 --> 00:45:32,706 These are what we would call 1550 00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:34,408 anatomically modern humans just 1551 00:45:34,432 --> 00:45:36,143 like you and I, identical in all 1552 00:45:36,167 --> 00:45:36,779 respects. 1553 00:45:36,803 --> 00:45:38,245 Same form of intelligence, 1554 00:45:38,269 --> 00:45:39,014 everything. 1555 00:45:39,038 --> 00:45:40,714 However, they're still living in 1556 00:45:40,738 --> 00:45:42,216 the paleolithic, which means 1557 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,953 that their diet, so to speak, is 1558 00:45:45,977 --> 00:45:48,655 lean meat, any form of 1559 00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,591 vegetation they could get, 1560 00:45:50,615 --> 00:45:52,659 fruits, berries, nuts, fish, 1561 00:45:52,683 --> 00:45:53,295 okay? 1562 00:45:53,319 --> 00:45:56,163 Everything is coming from a 1563 00:45:56,187 --> 00:45:58,966 world that was pristine, as 1564 00:45:58,990 --> 00:46:02,136 opposed to a world today that is 1565 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,505 highly polluted, okay? 1566 00:46:04,529 --> 00:46:06,974 The humans here are modern like 1567 00:46:06,998 --> 00:46:08,009 you and I. 1568 00:46:08,033 --> 00:46:09,510 They are clothed. 1569 00:46:09,534 --> 00:46:11,913 We know that they used needles 1570 00:46:11,937 --> 00:46:13,747 to sew their clothing. 1571 00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:15,883 They're actually burying some 1572 00:46:15,907 --> 00:46:17,184 meat right here. 1573 00:46:17,208 --> 00:46:18,020 Right there. 1574 00:46:18,044 --> 00:46:19,286 Right there, they are, right? 1575 00:46:19,310 --> 00:46:20,855 Their refrigeration system. 1576 00:46:20,879 --> 00:46:22,723 Their refrigeration system. 1577 00:46:22,747 --> 00:46:24,391 Okay, so they're advancing 1578 00:46:24,415 --> 00:46:25,360 considerably. 1579 00:46:25,384 --> 00:46:27,328 They're still what we call "in 1580 00:46:27,352 --> 00:46:28,462 the stone age." 1581 00:46:28,486 --> 00:46:30,531 They're still making their tools 1582 00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:31,833 of stone and bone. 1583 00:46:31,857 --> 00:46:33,700 No metal exists before this. 1584 00:46:33,724 --> 00:46:35,569 So we're roughly dealing with 1585 00:46:35,593 --> 00:46:38,339 a period maybe 30,000, 40,000 1586 00:46:38,363 --> 00:46:40,875 years b.P., before the present, 1587 00:46:40,899 --> 00:46:43,177 all right, just before a big 1588 00:46:43,201 --> 00:46:44,979 change would start taking 1589 00:46:45,003 --> 00:46:46,914 place in human evolution, a 1590 00:46:46,938 --> 00:46:49,851 change we call a dietary change. 1591 00:46:49,875 --> 00:46:51,785 So this is just before the 1592 00:46:51,809 --> 00:46:53,955 beginning of agriculture, just 1593 00:46:53,979 --> 00:46:56,257 before the big switchover in a 1594 00:46:56,281 --> 00:46:58,059 different phase of human 1595 00:46:58,083 --> 00:46:58,994 evolution. 1596 00:46:59,018 --> 00:47:01,195 And this was nutritionally 1597 00:47:01,219 --> 00:47:03,564 superior, this kind of diet. 1598 00:47:03,588 --> 00:47:05,266 This represents the 1599 00:47:05,290 --> 00:47:07,869 pre-agricultural age. 1600 00:47:07,893 --> 00:47:11,538 After that, we start to decline. 1601 00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:12,573 Things change. 1602 00:47:12,597 --> 00:47:13,574 Things change. 1603 00:47:13,598 --> 00:47:14,476 Things change. 1604 00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:16,177 The foods that were available 1605 00:47:16,201 --> 00:47:17,912 to them in nature is what helped 1606 00:47:17,936 --> 00:47:19,513 move evolution forward, right? 1607 00:47:19,537 --> 00:47:20,547 We believe so. 1608 00:47:20,571 --> 00:47:21,548 Definitely, yeah. 1609 00:47:21,572 --> 00:47:22,616 It was a struggle. 1610 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,684 It was a struggle. 1611 00:47:23,708 --> 00:47:26,620 It was survival of the fittest 1612 00:47:26,644 --> 00:47:29,756 and today, we are it. 1613 00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:32,193 We're the end product of that 1614 00:47:32,217 --> 00:47:33,560 long survival. 1615 00:47:33,584 --> 00:47:35,196 Also located in New York is 1616 00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:36,797 the wenner-gren foundation for 1617 00:47:36,821 --> 00:47:38,465 anthropological research, which 1618 00:47:38,489 --> 00:47:39,800 supports significant and 1619 00:47:39,824 --> 00:47:41,068 innovative research in 1620 00:47:41,092 --> 00:47:42,703 humanity's biological and 1621 00:47:42,727 --> 00:47:44,571 cultural origins, development, 1622 00:47:44,595 --> 00:47:45,606 and variation. 1623 00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:47,408 Evolutionary anthropologist and 1624 00:47:47,432 --> 00:47:49,043 president of the foundation 1625 00:47:49,067 --> 00:47:50,878 Leslie aiello's research focuses 1626 00:47:50,902 --> 00:47:52,413 on the evolution of human 1627 00:47:52,437 --> 00:47:54,215 adaptation, including evolution 1628 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,884 of diet, the brain, language, 1629 00:47:56,908 --> 00:47:58,185 and cognition. 1630 00:47:58,209 --> 00:47:59,987 Well, what we call the ideal 1631 00:48:00,011 --> 00:48:01,688 human diet depends on what we 1632 00:48:01,712 --> 00:48:03,357 call human because we've had 1633 00:48:03,381 --> 00:48:04,926 7 million years of human 1634 00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:08,462 evolution, that being defined as 1635 00:48:08,486 --> 00:48:10,497 the time that we separated from 1636 00:48:10,521 --> 00:48:12,399 our closest living ancestors, 1637 00:48:12,423 --> 00:48:13,567 the chimpanzees. 1638 00:48:13,591 --> 00:48:15,469 But throughout that 7 million 1639 00:48:15,493 --> 00:48:17,404 years, we weren't human as we 1640 00:48:17,428 --> 00:48:18,872 would define it today. 1641 00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:20,908 And for probably 5 million years 1642 00:48:20,932 --> 00:48:22,910 throughout that time period, if 1643 00:48:22,934 --> 00:48:24,979 we saw one of these ancestors on 1644 00:48:25,003 --> 00:48:26,948 the street, we'd recognize them 1645 00:48:26,972 --> 00:48:28,950 as an ape standing on two legs. 1646 00:48:28,974 --> 00:48:30,351 And their diet was 1647 00:48:30,375 --> 00:48:32,253 correspondingly different. 1648 00:48:32,277 --> 00:48:34,355 It wasn't identical to modern 1649 00:48:34,379 --> 00:48:36,857 apes, but what we think is they 1650 00:48:36,881 --> 00:48:39,160 were subsisting primarily on 1651 00:48:39,184 --> 00:48:41,595 vegetable materials... fruits, 1652 00:48:41,619 --> 00:48:43,197 leaves, that type of thing... 1653 00:48:43,221 --> 00:48:44,932 Supplementing, of course, with a 1654 00:48:44,956 --> 00:48:47,368 bit of animal material. 1655 00:48:47,392 --> 00:48:49,203 But at about 2 million years 1656 00:48:49,227 --> 00:48:51,238 ago, we think the change really 1657 00:48:51,262 --> 00:48:52,007 happened. 1658 00:48:52,031 --> 00:48:53,674 And at this time, our 1659 00:48:53,698 --> 00:48:55,709 ancestors... we call them 1660 00:48:55,733 --> 00:48:58,779 homo erectus... were radically 1661 00:48:58,803 --> 00:49:00,314 different in body form. 1662 00:49:00,338 --> 00:49:02,249 They were about 50%, again, as 1663 00:49:02,273 --> 00:49:04,218 big as these earlier ancestors. 1664 00:49:04,242 --> 00:49:05,919 And if you saw them on the 1665 00:49:05,943 --> 00:49:07,754 street, they would look more 1666 00:49:07,778 --> 00:49:08,456 like US. 1667 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,424 They would have the same body 1668 00:49:10,448 --> 00:49:12,193 proportions... long legs, 1669 00:49:12,217 --> 00:49:13,860 relatively short arms in 1670 00:49:13,884 --> 00:49:16,030 relation to those legs, and very 1671 00:49:16,054 --> 00:49:18,065 importantly, smaller teeth and 1672 00:49:18,089 --> 00:49:19,133 jaws. 1673 00:49:19,157 --> 00:49:21,035 Now, this indicates that there 1674 00:49:21,059 --> 00:49:22,636 was something definitely 1675 00:49:22,660 --> 00:49:24,371 different about the diet of 1676 00:49:24,395 --> 00:49:27,808 these ancestors to 1.7 million 1677 00:49:27,832 --> 00:49:29,276 years ago. 1678 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:30,978 The question is, what was 1679 00:49:31,002 --> 00:49:31,813 different? 1680 00:49:31,837 --> 00:49:33,614 Many of the earliest modern 1681 00:49:33,638 --> 00:49:35,582 humans were actually also very 1682 00:49:35,606 --> 00:49:36,783 big individuals. 1683 00:49:36,807 --> 00:49:38,519 And so, you know, so this idea 1684 00:49:38,543 --> 00:49:40,187 that our early ancestors were 1685 00:49:40,211 --> 00:49:41,755 small people and we've just 1686 00:49:41,779 --> 00:49:43,524 gotten bigger since then really 1687 00:49:43,548 --> 00:49:44,326 isn't true. 1688 00:49:44,350 --> 00:49:46,393 And it looks like, you know, 1689 00:49:46,417 --> 00:49:48,562 there were periods from these 1690 00:49:48,586 --> 00:49:49,997 large individuals. 1691 00:49:50,021 --> 00:49:51,365 Many modern humans are much 1692 00:49:51,389 --> 00:49:52,100 smaller. 1693 00:49:52,124 --> 00:49:53,600 Our early hunter and gatherer 1694 00:49:53,624 --> 00:49:54,968 ancestors... one of my old 1695 00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:56,570 professors used to say this was 1696 00:49:56,594 --> 00:49:57,604 the high period of 1697 00:49:57,628 --> 00:49:59,140 human evolution, and it's been 1698 00:49:59,164 --> 00:50:01,942 downhill since then because they 1699 00:50:01,966 --> 00:50:03,710 were eating a huge diversity of 1700 00:50:03,734 --> 00:50:04,512 foodstuffs. 1701 00:50:04,536 --> 00:50:06,713 We go to the supermarket, and 1702 00:50:06,737 --> 00:50:08,249 when we make a salad, we think 1703 00:50:08,273 --> 00:50:09,583 that we're eating a lot of 1704 00:50:09,607 --> 00:50:11,152 different types of veggies, you 1705 00:50:11,176 --> 00:50:11,586 know. 1706 00:50:11,610 --> 00:50:13,054 But in comparison to what our 1707 00:50:13,078 --> 00:50:14,455 early ancestors were eating, 1708 00:50:14,479 --> 00:50:15,357 this isn't true. 1709 00:50:15,381 --> 00:50:18,325 They had a huge diversity. 1710 00:50:18,349 --> 00:50:20,694 Once you start agriculture, you 1711 00:50:20,718 --> 00:50:23,064 seriously reduce the variety in 1712 00:50:23,088 --> 00:50:25,799 your food, and this also reduces 1713 00:50:25,823 --> 00:50:27,701 the variety of nutrients you 1714 00:50:27,725 --> 00:50:28,203 get. 1715 00:50:28,227 --> 00:50:31,004 And what we think we're seeing 1716 00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:33,807 when we see the real reduction 1717 00:50:33,831 --> 00:50:36,510 in the skeletons, when we see 1718 00:50:36,534 --> 00:50:39,213 evidence in the skeletons of, 1719 00:50:39,237 --> 00:50:41,348 really, nutritional deficiency, 1720 00:50:41,372 --> 00:50:43,584 that what we're tracking is this 1721 00:50:43,608 --> 00:50:45,786 reduction of variation in the 1722 00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:46,688 diet. 1723 00:50:46,712 --> 00:50:48,889 We aren't getting what we were 1724 00:50:48,913 --> 00:50:51,358 built to need, and I think that 1725 00:50:51,382 --> 00:50:53,894 that's the bottom line. 1726 00:50:53,918 --> 00:50:55,696 In 2003, at a symposium on 1727 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,298 the evolution of the human 1728 00:50:57,322 --> 00:50:59,166 diet... the known, the unknown, 1729 00:50:59,190 --> 00:51:00,701 and the unknowable... at the 1730 00:51:00,725 --> 00:51:02,336 university of Arkansas, one 1731 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,737 remarkable development caught my 1732 00:51:03,761 --> 00:51:04,938 attention above all others 1733 00:51:04,962 --> 00:51:06,673 presented... that we were just 1734 00:51:06,697 --> 00:51:08,075 now entering a period of 1735 00:51:08,099 --> 00:51:09,310 exploding scientific 1736 00:51:09,334 --> 00:51:11,112 understanding with rapid changes 1737 00:51:11,136 --> 00:51:12,579 in scientific technology, 1738 00:51:12,603 --> 00:51:14,148 bringing to light new facts 1739 00:51:14,172 --> 00:51:15,882 about the human diet that were 1740 00:51:15,906 --> 00:51:17,518 previously unknowable. 1741 00:51:17,542 --> 00:51:19,052 Three years later when I was 1742 00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:20,754 interviewing professor cordain, 1743 00:51:20,778 --> 00:51:22,489 he said, "you really should talk 1744 00:51:22,513 --> 00:51:23,624 to Mike Richards at 1745 00:51:23,648 --> 00:51:25,025 the Max planck institute. 1746 00:51:25,049 --> 00:51:26,593 He's got some new technology 1747 00:51:26,617 --> 00:51:28,229 that can tell you exactly what 1748 00:51:28,253 --> 00:51:29,596 humans ate in the past." 1749 00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:30,964 On my way to leipzig, Mike 1750 00:51:30,988 --> 00:51:32,399 suggested I visit one of his 1751 00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:33,900 department's dig sites in the 1752 00:51:33,924 --> 00:51:35,502 south of France to see the human 1753 00:51:35,526 --> 00:51:37,138 nutrition discovery process from 1754 00:51:37,162 --> 00:51:38,605 start to finish. 1755 00:51:38,629 --> 00:51:39,441 They came here. 1756 00:51:39,465 --> 00:51:40,674 They were butchering these 1757 00:51:40,698 --> 00:51:41,176 animals. 1758 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,476 They were leaving behind the 1759 00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:43,710 bones and the stone tools. 1760 00:51:43,734 --> 00:51:45,011 We want to know a little bit 1761 00:51:45,035 --> 00:51:46,213 more about that. 1762 00:51:46,237 --> 00:51:48,315 Were they cutting off the meaty 1763 00:51:48,339 --> 00:51:50,184 parts and taking those with 1764 00:51:50,208 --> 00:51:50,752 them? 1765 00:51:50,776 --> 00:51:52,519 Do you find evidence of those 1766 00:51:52,543 --> 00:51:53,654 parts still here? 1767 00:51:53,678 --> 00:51:55,922 What exactly was the process 1768 00:51:55,946 --> 00:51:58,425 that led to the creation of this 1769 00:51:58,449 --> 00:52:00,294 thick deposit of bones? 1770 00:52:00,318 --> 00:52:01,462 Well, you're standing in the 1771 00:52:01,486 --> 00:52:02,529 site of jonzac, also known 1772 00:52:02,553 --> 00:52:04,131 as chez pinaud. 1773 00:52:04,155 --> 00:52:05,566 Middle paleolithic and 1774 00:52:05,590 --> 00:52:07,368 early upper paleolithic site 1775 00:52:07,392 --> 00:52:09,002 that was... really, it was 1776 00:52:09,026 --> 00:52:11,004 discovered, in effect, 100 years 1777 00:52:11,028 --> 00:52:13,207 ago when they cut this road that 1778 00:52:13,231 --> 00:52:14,375 we're standing in. 1779 00:52:14,399 --> 00:52:16,243 They cut a road to get access to 1780 00:52:16,267 --> 00:52:18,078 the limestone face, here, which 1781 00:52:18,102 --> 00:52:19,313 they then quarried. 1782 00:52:19,337 --> 00:52:21,047 And when they built this road, 1783 00:52:21,071 --> 00:52:23,184 they sliced through the site. 1784 00:52:23,208 --> 00:52:24,918 And you can probably see the 1785 00:52:24,942 --> 00:52:26,787 richness of the archaeological 1786 00:52:26,811 --> 00:52:27,788 levels, there. 1787 00:52:27,812 --> 00:52:29,723 You see that tag that says sw-08 1788 00:52:29,747 --> 00:52:31,458 and all those dark things in 1789 00:52:31,482 --> 00:52:33,260 this section are stone tools. 1790 00:52:33,284 --> 00:52:34,196 Wow. 1791 00:52:34,220 --> 00:52:36,197 It's a very rich layer that 1792 00:52:36,221 --> 00:52:39,766 appears, as well, down here. 1793 00:52:39,790 --> 00:52:41,802 They didn't report it to anybody 1794 00:52:41,826 --> 00:52:42,570 official. 1795 00:52:42,594 --> 00:52:44,471 It didn't really make it into 1796 00:52:44,495 --> 00:52:46,373 any publications, and the site 1797 00:52:46,397 --> 00:52:48,309 went unnoticed again for about 1798 00:52:48,333 --> 00:52:49,143 100 years. 1799 00:52:49,167 --> 00:52:50,811 And it was in the 1990s that a 1800 00:52:50,835 --> 00:52:52,546 French geologist working in the 1801 00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:54,014 region came here and took 1802 00:52:54,038 --> 00:52:55,782 advantage of the road cut, came 1803 00:52:55,806 --> 00:52:57,451 across the stone tools and the 1804 00:52:57,475 --> 00:52:58,885 bones in the section, and 1805 00:52:58,909 --> 00:53:00,687 brought it to the attention of a 1806 00:53:00,711 --> 00:53:02,223 local French archaeologist. 1807 00:53:02,247 --> 00:53:04,725 What we do is we study the bones 1808 00:53:04,749 --> 00:53:06,427 and stone tools left behind by, 1809 00:53:06,451 --> 00:53:07,994 first, neanderthals and then 1810 00:53:08,018 --> 00:53:09,696 modern people at the top of the 1811 00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:12,866 sequence, and reconstruct what 1812 00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:16,203 kinds of stone tools we find and 1813 00:53:16,227 --> 00:53:17,938 what kinds of animals they were 1814 00:53:17,962 --> 00:53:19,373 hunting at what periods. 1815 00:53:19,397 --> 00:53:21,107 And, indeed, were they hunting, 1816 00:53:21,131 --> 00:53:22,809 or were the bones brought here 1817 00:53:22,833 --> 00:53:24,511 by other kinds of animals like 1818 00:53:24,535 --> 00:53:26,280 various kinds of carnivores and 1819 00:53:26,304 --> 00:53:26,948 so forth? 1820 00:53:26,972 --> 00:53:28,181 And are these all animal 1821 00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:29,450 bones at this point in time? 1822 00:53:29,474 --> 00:53:30,617 Yep. All animal bones. 1823 00:53:30,641 --> 00:53:32,553 And then that brings US up to 1824 00:53:32,577 --> 00:53:34,488 this layer of large limestone 1825 00:53:34,512 --> 00:53:35,922 blocks that you see. 1826 00:53:35,946 --> 00:53:37,991 Below those limestone blocks, we 1827 00:53:38,015 --> 00:53:39,526 know it's neanderthals. 1828 00:53:39,550 --> 00:53:41,595 Above those limestone blocks, we 1829 00:53:41,619 --> 00:53:42,863 know it's moderns. 1830 00:53:42,887 --> 00:53:44,598 And during that time period 1831 00:53:44,622 --> 00:53:46,333 represented by those layers 1832 00:53:46,357 --> 00:53:48,269 there, the change happened, and 1833 00:53:48,293 --> 00:53:49,870 then what happened when those 1834 00:53:49,894 --> 00:53:51,338 two groups met each other? 1835 00:53:51,362 --> 00:53:52,673 Did they, indeed, meet? 1836 00:53:52,697 --> 00:53:54,408 What was that interaction like? 1837 00:53:54,432 --> 00:53:56,477 And here, you would have had 1838 00:53:56,501 --> 00:53:58,612 hundreds of thousands of years 1839 00:53:58,636 --> 00:54:00,647 of neanderthals living here, 1840 00:54:00,671 --> 00:54:02,583 well adapted to this region 1841 00:54:02,607 --> 00:54:05,652 doing perfectly well, probably. 1842 00:54:05,676 --> 00:54:07,488 And then in come these modern 1843 00:54:07,512 --> 00:54:08,423 individuals. 1844 00:54:08,447 --> 00:54:09,723 How did they react? 1845 00:54:09,747 --> 00:54:11,191 What exactly happened? 1846 00:54:11,215 --> 00:54:12,593 Well, and thus far, when it 1847 00:54:12,617 --> 00:54:14,060 comes down to diet, can you tell 1848 00:54:14,084 --> 00:54:15,496 from... besides the range here, 1849 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,997 obviously, the animals that were 1850 00:54:17,021 --> 00:54:18,432 here, can you tell US what they 1851 00:54:18,456 --> 00:54:19,301 ate? 1852 00:54:19,325 --> 00:54:20,967 Well, the evidence, for the 1853 00:54:20,991 --> 00:54:22,703 most part, is going to come from 1854 00:54:22,727 --> 00:54:24,438 the bones because that's what's 1855 00:54:24,462 --> 00:54:25,139 preserved. 1856 00:54:25,163 --> 00:54:26,440 We have a large team here of 1857 00:54:26,464 --> 00:54:27,841 individuals studying the fauna, 1858 00:54:27,865 --> 00:54:29,175 and they can tell you a little 1859 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:30,477 bit more in detail about the 1860 00:54:30,501 --> 00:54:31,612 kinds of things they are 1861 00:54:31,636 --> 00:54:32,112 finding. 1862 00:54:32,136 --> 00:54:33,046 That they are finding down 1863 00:54:33,070 --> 00:54:33,348 there. 1864 00:54:33,372 --> 00:54:34,748 Yeah. 1865 00:54:34,772 --> 00:54:36,149 We have 1866 00:54:36,173 --> 00:54:39,453 found lots of reindeer during 1867 00:54:39,477 --> 00:54:40,654 the excavation. 1868 00:54:40,678 --> 00:54:45,426 And as you can see, long bone of 1869 00:54:45,450 --> 00:54:47,928 a reindeer, and we've got a 1870 00:54:47,952 --> 00:54:49,396 scutella of reindeer there. 1871 00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:51,832 Just... just there. 1872 00:54:51,856 --> 00:54:53,199 And lots of rib. 1873 00:54:53,223 --> 00:54:55,068 Is the preference for 1874 00:54:55,092 --> 00:54:57,338 reindeer because reindeer was 1875 00:54:57,362 --> 00:54:59,673 the animal that was here, or do 1876 00:54:59,697 --> 00:55:00,841 we have a lot of reindeer 1877 00:55:00,865 --> 00:55:02,042 because they really wanted 1878 00:55:02,066 --> 00:55:02,577 reindeer? 1879 00:55:02,601 --> 00:55:03,910 And there were horse and bison 1880 00:55:03,934 --> 00:55:05,278 around, but they ignored those. 1881 00:55:05,302 --> 00:55:06,313 Those are the kinds of 1882 00:55:06,337 --> 00:55:06,881 questions. 1883 00:55:06,905 --> 00:55:08,014 Right. Selective. 1884 00:55:08,038 --> 00:55:08,716 Exactly. 1885 00:55:08,740 --> 00:55:10,216 Is there anywhere in this 1886 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:11,552 layering that... you said 1887 00:55:11,576 --> 00:55:12,786 neanderthals completely 1888 00:55:12,810 --> 00:55:13,455 disappear? 1889 00:55:13,479 --> 00:55:15,356 Don't find neanderthals after 1890 00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:17,424 that layer of root fall. 1891 00:55:17,448 --> 00:55:19,225 The moderns came in. 1892 00:55:19,249 --> 00:55:20,861 So modern humans, more like 1893 00:55:20,885 --> 00:55:21,261 US? 1894 00:55:21,285 --> 00:55:21,796 Yes. 1895 00:55:21,820 --> 00:55:22,797 Exactly like US. 1896 00:55:22,821 --> 00:55:23,964 Exactl like US. 1897 00:55:23,988 --> 00:55:25,732 They were modern humans. 1898 00:55:25,756 --> 00:55:27,534 They did... they had a brain 1899 00:55:27,558 --> 00:55:29,603 that was organized, as far as we 1900 00:55:29,627 --> 00:55:30,971 can tell, like ours. 1901 00:55:30,995 --> 00:55:32,839 So you have to imagine these 1902 00:55:32,863 --> 00:55:34,708 neanderthals being extremely 1903 00:55:34,732 --> 00:55:37,878 capable hunters, extremely 1904 00:55:37,902 --> 00:55:40,246 capable at surviving in this 1905 00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:41,448 environment. 1906 00:55:41,472 --> 00:55:43,717 They were very intelligent, 1907 00:55:43,741 --> 00:55:46,152 bipedal hominids successfully 1908 00:55:46,176 --> 00:55:47,588 adapting to this region, but 1909 00:55:47,612 --> 00:55:49,222 yet at the same time, not quite 1910 00:55:49,246 --> 00:55:49,557 US. 1911 00:55:49,581 --> 00:55:51,224 To me, that's what makes them so 1912 00:55:51,248 --> 00:55:51,993 interesting. 1913 00:55:52,017 --> 00:55:53,226 Yeah. 1914 00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:55,362 We want 1915 00:55:55,386 --> 00:55:57,398 to really understand if those 1916 00:55:57,422 --> 00:55:59,466 neanderthals were encountering 1917 00:55:59,490 --> 00:56:01,301 anatomically modern humans 1918 00:56:01,325 --> 00:56:03,504 because we want to understand if 1919 00:56:03,528 --> 00:56:06,607 they interact with each other. 1920 00:56:06,631 --> 00:56:08,642 Because right after that, they 1921 00:56:08,666 --> 00:56:09,643 disappeared. 1922 00:56:09,667 --> 00:56:11,745 And, of course, one of the big 1923 00:56:11,769 --> 00:56:13,547 questions is why did they 1924 00:56:13,571 --> 00:56:15,782 disappear and what happened when 1925 00:56:15,806 --> 00:56:17,050 they disappeared? 1926 00:56:17,074 --> 00:56:18,419 It's certainly one of the 1927 00:56:18,443 --> 00:56:19,319 bigger questions. 1928 00:56:19,343 --> 00:56:20,254 It's kind of... 1929 00:56:20,278 --> 00:56:21,822 why are we here and they're 1930 00:56:21,846 --> 00:56:22,457 not here? 1931 00:56:22,481 --> 00:56:24,024 Exactly. Exactly. 1932 00:56:24,048 --> 00:56:26,359 What happened, exactly, that our 1933 00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:28,695 species is the one that was left 1934 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:29,597 standing? 1935 00:56:29,621 --> 00:56:30,831 Would you say, based on the 1936 00:56:30,855 --> 00:56:32,032 archaeological evidence, that 1937 00:56:32,056 --> 00:56:34,134 they were healthy compared to 1938 00:56:34,158 --> 00:56:35,969 humans today? 1939 00:56:35,993 --> 00:56:37,471 Well, they were... 1940 00:56:37,495 --> 00:56:39,473 Fortunately, they were healthy 1941 00:56:39,497 --> 00:56:41,542 because we would not be here if 1942 00:56:41,566 --> 00:56:43,109 they were not healthy. 1943 00:56:43,133 --> 00:56:44,945 All of the fossils excavated 1944 00:56:44,969 --> 00:56:46,813 at the dig are taken a few miles 1945 00:56:46,837 --> 00:56:48,582 away to a field lab where they 1946 00:56:48,606 --> 00:56:50,451 are identified, bagged, labeled, 1947 00:56:50,475 --> 00:56:52,285 and logged prior to being taken 1948 00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:54,087 back to the department of human 1949 00:56:54,111 --> 00:56:55,789 evolution's laboratories in 1950 00:56:55,813 --> 00:56:56,857 leipzig, Germany. 1951 00:56:56,881 --> 00:56:57,991 Department director 1952 00:56:58,015 --> 00:56:59,626 Jean-Jacques hublin spoke with 1953 00:56:59,650 --> 00:57:01,327 me more specifically about what 1954 00:57:01,351 --> 00:57:02,863 the institute's research has 1955 00:57:02,887 --> 00:57:04,465 discovered about early modern 1956 00:57:04,489 --> 00:57:05,799 humans' health. 1957 00:57:05,823 --> 00:57:07,133 Well, if it looks like 1958 00:57:07,157 --> 00:57:08,802 neanderthal and modern humans 1959 00:57:08,826 --> 00:57:10,403 evolved as hunter-gatherers, 1960 00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:12,138 were we healthy then, and were 1961 00:57:12,162 --> 00:57:13,707 we healthier then than now? 1962 00:57:13,731 --> 00:57:14,975 Well, 1963 00:57:14,999 --> 00:57:18,244 I'm sure that they had a lot of 1964 00:57:18,268 --> 00:57:21,515 troubles with their health, but 1965 00:57:21,539 --> 00:57:23,316 very different kind of 1966 00:57:23,340 --> 00:57:25,385 problems than the one we have 1967 00:57:25,409 --> 00:57:25,920 now. 1968 00:57:25,944 --> 00:57:28,455 We live in a society which is 1969 00:57:28,479 --> 00:57:29,590 very safe. 1970 00:57:29,614 --> 00:57:32,092 We don't have much accidents. 1971 00:57:32,116 --> 00:57:34,761 Although we have violence, it's 1972 00:57:34,785 --> 00:57:35,730 limited. 1973 00:57:35,754 --> 00:57:38,965 And so we are mainly preoccupied 1974 00:57:38,989 --> 00:57:40,567 with all the else problems 1975 00:57:40,591 --> 00:57:42,402 related to our diet and our way 1976 00:57:42,426 --> 00:57:43,370 of life. 1977 00:57:43,394 --> 00:57:45,506 I think for the neanderthals or 1978 00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:47,608 for the first modern humans in 1979 00:57:47,632 --> 00:57:50,677 our regions, they were mostly 1980 00:57:50,701 --> 00:57:54,347 preoccupied in finding food. 1981 00:57:54,371 --> 00:57:56,650 And the kind of problems they 1982 00:57:56,674 --> 00:57:58,819 had in their daily life with 1983 00:57:58,843 --> 00:58:00,887 their health was basically 1984 00:58:00,911 --> 00:58:02,923 related to all the kind of 1985 00:58:02,947 --> 00:58:04,858 accidents they could have 1986 00:58:04,882 --> 00:58:07,027 looking for food and hunting 1987 00:58:07,051 --> 00:58:07,895 animals. 1988 00:58:07,919 --> 00:58:09,429 It's very unlikely that they had 1989 00:58:09,453 --> 00:58:11,532 a lot of obesity. 1990 00:58:11,556 --> 00:58:16,369 What we can say just looking at 1991 00:58:16,393 --> 00:58:18,505 their skeletons is that they 1992 00:58:18,529 --> 00:58:20,741 were very... they looked like 1993 00:58:20,765 --> 00:58:23,143 very tall, very strong, and very 1994 00:58:23,167 --> 00:58:25,145 healthy people in general. 1995 00:58:25,169 --> 00:58:28,715 From the farmers, we have to 1996 00:58:28,739 --> 00:58:32,218 suffer sometimes some kind of 1997 00:58:32,242 --> 00:58:36,790 misadaptation related to the 1998 00:58:36,814 --> 00:58:38,925 fact that initially, we were not 1999 00:58:38,949 --> 00:58:40,761 really meant to eat so much 2000 00:58:40,785 --> 00:58:44,130 cereals and sugar and things 2001 00:58:44,154 --> 00:58:44,799 like that. 2002 00:58:44,823 --> 00:58:46,332 The next destination is the 2003 00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:47,601 Max planck institute for 2004 00:58:47,625 --> 00:58:49,002 evolutionary anthropology's 2005 00:58:49,026 --> 00:58:50,637 department of human evolution in 2006 00:58:50,661 --> 00:58:51,638 leipzig, Germany. 2007 00:58:51,662 --> 00:58:52,939 Professor Mike Richard's 2008 00:58:52,963 --> 00:58:54,107 research involves the 2009 00:58:54,131 --> 00:58:55,709 application of stable isotope 2010 00:58:55,733 --> 00:58:57,177 analysis of bone collagen to 2011 00:58:57,201 --> 00:58:58,579 determine human and animal 2012 00:58:58,603 --> 00:59:00,747 diets, as well as dietary 2013 00:59:00,771 --> 00:59:02,983 changes in prehistoric and 2014 00:59:03,007 --> 00:59:04,484 historic Europe. 2015 00:59:04,508 --> 00:59:05,686 These are the things that I 2016 00:59:05,710 --> 00:59:06,820 think people are completely 2017 00:59:06,844 --> 00:59:07,488 confused about. 2018 00:59:07,512 --> 00:59:08,755 I mean, I certainly was growing 2019 00:59:08,779 --> 00:59:09,023 up. 2020 00:59:09,047 --> 00:59:10,290 You just think that these are... 2021 00:59:10,314 --> 00:59:11,491 You know, it's good to have a 2022 00:59:11,515 --> 00:59:12,693 glass of milk, and that's good 2023 00:59:12,717 --> 00:59:13,727 for you, and have lots of 2024 00:59:13,751 --> 00:59:14,828 cereals every day, and these 2025 00:59:14,852 --> 00:59:15,563 kinds of things. 2026 00:59:15,587 --> 00:59:16,830 But when you really think about 2027 00:59:16,854 --> 00:59:18,098 it, you realize that these diets 2028 00:59:18,122 --> 00:59:19,866 are not so good for you at all. 2029 00:59:19,890 --> 00:59:22,168 I run a group that's in a field 2030 00:59:22,192 --> 00:59:24,370 called archaeological science, 2031 00:59:24,394 --> 00:59:26,539 so we specialize in applying, 2032 00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:28,875 sort of, hard science techniques 2033 00:59:28,899 --> 00:59:31,044 to anthropology, archaeology. 2034 00:59:31,068 --> 00:59:32,545 And I understand you're also 2035 00:59:32,569 --> 00:59:33,980 working with early human diet? 2036 00:59:34,004 --> 00:59:34,515 Yeah. 2037 00:59:34,539 --> 00:59:35,816 My main specialty is diet. 2038 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,085 I study bone chemistry as a way 2039 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:41,087 of getting at what the diets of 2040 00:59:41,111 --> 00:59:43,056 people and animals were in the 2041 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,090 past. 2042 00:59:44,114 --> 00:59:45,358 And one of the main things we're 2043 00:59:45,382 --> 00:59:46,593 looking at is the evolution of 2044 00:59:46,617 --> 00:59:47,828 diets through time by trying to 2045 00:59:47,852 --> 00:59:49,329 get this information from these 2046 00:59:49,353 --> 00:59:50,631 bones themselves and doing 2047 00:59:50,655 --> 00:59:51,932 scientific analysis of the 2048 00:59:51,956 --> 00:59:53,299 composition of these bones. 2049 00:59:53,323 --> 00:59:55,201 People have hypothesized that 2050 00:59:55,225 --> 00:59:57,270 it's a trait of, like, the first 2051 00:59:57,294 --> 00:59:58,972 homo, our species, is that 2052 00:59:58,996 --> 01:00:00,941 animal products is what led to 2053 01:00:00,965 --> 01:00:02,976 our increased brain size and all 2054 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,045 sort of things that we... set US 2055 01:00:05,069 --> 01:00:06,780 apart from other primates. 2056 01:00:06,804 --> 01:00:08,181 And the problem is you can... 2057 01:00:08,205 --> 01:00:09,349 The evidence for this is 2058 01:00:09,373 --> 01:00:10,184 circumstantial. 2059 01:00:10,208 --> 01:00:11,584 You find tools that are being 2060 01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:13,086 used to cut up animals, you find 2061 01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:14,254 butchered animal bones. 2062 01:00:14,278 --> 01:00:15,588 But there's no way to really 2063 01:00:15,612 --> 01:00:17,123 tell what proportion of the diet 2064 01:00:17,147 --> 01:00:18,025 that represented. 2065 01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:19,425 And plant foods just don't 2066 01:00:19,449 --> 01:00:21,027 survive, so they're invisible. 2067 01:00:21,051 --> 01:00:22,595 So we have to use this kind of 2068 01:00:22,619 --> 01:00:24,130 study looking directly at the 2069 01:00:24,154 --> 01:00:25,699 fossils themselves or the bone 2070 01:00:25,723 --> 01:00:27,300 chemistry to really prove what 2071 01:00:27,324 --> 01:00:28,802 proportion of their diet was 2072 01:00:28,826 --> 01:00:30,203 coming from animal protein 2073 01:00:30,227 --> 01:00:31,371 versus plant protein. 2074 01:00:31,395 --> 01:00:32,939 The first step is taking the 2075 01:00:32,963 --> 01:00:33,540 sample. 2076 01:00:33,564 --> 01:00:35,041 That usually happens in the 2077 01:00:35,065 --> 01:00:36,743 museum or in the field, and we 2078 01:00:36,767 --> 01:00:38,511 try to take as small a sample as 2079 01:00:38,535 --> 01:00:40,280 possible, so maybe like the size 2080 01:00:40,304 --> 01:00:41,882 of a thumbnail is what we can 2081 01:00:41,906 --> 01:00:42,616 work with. 2082 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,217 When we get that sample back to 2083 01:00:44,241 --> 01:00:45,551 the lab, we clean off the 2084 01:00:45,575 --> 01:00:47,153 outside layer to get rid of any 2085 01:00:47,177 --> 01:00:48,689 sort of contaminants from the 2086 01:00:48,713 --> 01:00:49,123 soil. 2087 01:00:49,147 --> 01:00:50,556 Then, we take that bone and 2088 01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:52,158 we put it in hydrochloric acid, 2089 01:00:52,182 --> 01:00:53,760 and that dissolves away most of 2090 01:00:53,784 --> 01:00:55,495 the bone because most of bone is 2091 01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:57,097 mineral, and that's where these 2092 01:00:57,121 --> 01:00:58,531 contaminations from the soil 2093 01:00:58,555 --> 01:00:59,333 will come in. 2094 01:00:59,357 --> 01:01:00,734 So we want to get rid of that 2095 01:01:00,758 --> 01:01:02,068 entirely, and it leaves this 2096 01:01:02,092 --> 01:01:02,603 protein. 2097 01:01:02,627 --> 01:01:04,137 And then we take that 2098 01:01:04,161 --> 01:01:06,239 freeze-dried collagen... white, 2099 01:01:06,263 --> 01:01:08,274 fluffy collagen... to the mass 2100 01:01:08,298 --> 01:01:09,642 spectrometers, and we measure 2101 01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:10,844 the amount of carbon and 2102 01:01:10,868 --> 01:01:12,178 nitrogen in it to make sure, 2103 01:01:12,202 --> 01:01:13,313 again, that it's really 2104 01:01:13,337 --> 01:01:14,715 collagen, and then we measure 2105 01:01:14,739 --> 01:01:15,683 the isotope ratios. 2106 01:01:15,707 --> 01:01:17,550 And when we get those numbers, 2107 01:01:17,574 --> 01:01:19,085 we compare, for example, 2108 01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:20,854 neanderthals to animals that 2109 01:01:20,878 --> 01:01:22,188 lived at the same time so you 2110 01:01:22,212 --> 01:01:23,589 know that if you have reindeer, 2111 01:01:23,613 --> 01:01:24,891 you know they're herbivores. 2112 01:01:24,915 --> 01:01:26,359 And then if you have wolves, you 2113 01:01:26,383 --> 01:01:27,493 know they're carnivores. 2114 01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:28,962 You build up this whole sort of 2115 01:01:28,986 --> 01:01:30,463 food web with isotope values and 2116 01:01:30,487 --> 01:01:31,765 you see how they all fit in. 2117 01:01:31,789 --> 01:01:33,133 When we pick up the story with 2118 01:01:33,157 --> 01:01:34,467 the neanderthals, which is the 2119 01:01:34,491 --> 01:01:35,769 first time we can, then we do 2120 01:01:35,793 --> 01:01:37,103 see, really, they are getting 2121 01:01:37,127 --> 01:01:38,404 all their protein from animal 2122 01:01:38,428 --> 01:01:38,906 sources. 2123 01:01:38,930 --> 01:01:40,273 So, as predicted, we pick that 2124 01:01:40,297 --> 01:01:40,574 up. 2125 01:01:40,598 --> 01:01:42,008 And then we see with modern 2126 01:01:42,032 --> 01:01:43,376 humans, as well, the same 2127 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,778 thing... that they're very 2128 01:01:44,802 --> 01:01:46,179 successful because they're 2129 01:01:46,203 --> 01:01:47,881 eating mostly animal protein, as 2130 01:01:47,905 --> 01:01:49,315 well, and very little plant 2131 01:01:49,339 --> 01:01:51,217 foods in Europe. 2132 01:01:51,241 --> 01:01:52,853 But a larger range of animal 2133 01:01:52,877 --> 01:01:54,654 foods, including, I think, fish, 2134 01:01:54,678 --> 01:01:56,757 was a big part of modern humans. 2135 01:01:56,781 --> 01:01:58,624 So that's the idea we have of 2136 01:01:58,648 --> 01:02:00,026 the paleolithic diet. 2137 01:02:00,050 --> 01:02:01,161 Then we see for modern humans, 2138 01:02:01,185 --> 01:02:02,328 it's a lot of animal protein, I 2139 01:02:02,352 --> 01:02:02,696 think. 2140 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:03,897 I spent a lot of time working on 2141 01:02:03,921 --> 01:02:05,098 neolithic, post neolithic sites, 2142 01:02:05,122 --> 01:02:06,566 as well, and there you really do 2143 01:02:06,590 --> 01:02:07,968 see the humans with much lower 2144 01:02:07,992 --> 01:02:09,302 nitrogen isotope values, and 2145 01:02:09,326 --> 01:02:10,804 they're clearly getting a lot of 2146 01:02:10,828 --> 01:02:12,038 their protein from plants. 2147 01:02:12,062 --> 01:02:13,940 As agriculture moves in. 2148 01:02:13,964 --> 01:02:14,808 Yeah. 2149 01:02:14,832 --> 01:02:15,476 Yeah. 2150 01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:16,676 But before that, they had the 2151 01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:17,710 same kind of values as the 2152 01:02:17,734 --> 01:02:18,278 neanderthal? 2153 01:02:18,302 --> 01:02:19,213 Yeah, except for this 2154 01:02:19,237 --> 01:02:20,881 addition of these extra fish. 2155 01:02:20,905 --> 01:02:22,315 That seems to be the big 2156 01:02:22,339 --> 01:02:23,116 difference. 2157 01:02:23,140 --> 01:02:23,985 Main difference. 2158 01:02:24,009 --> 01:02:27,420 So, until agriculture, were 2159 01:02:27,444 --> 01:02:29,155 there any human, modern human 2160 01:02:29,179 --> 01:02:30,024 vegetarians? 2161 01:02:30,048 --> 01:02:31,315 I really don't think so. 2162 01:02:32,316 --> 01:02:33,626 I do not think so. 2163 01:02:33,650 --> 01:02:35,261 And actually, it's extremely 2164 01:02:35,285 --> 01:02:37,097 hard to find vegetarians even at 2165 01:02:37,121 --> 01:02:38,164 the graph, there, 2166 01:02:38,188 --> 01:02:39,265 archaeologically. 2167 01:02:39,289 --> 01:02:41,001 I don't... in all the studies, 2168 01:02:41,025 --> 01:02:42,635 we've measured thousands and 2169 01:02:42,659 --> 01:02:44,304 thousands of humans from all 2170 01:02:44,328 --> 01:02:45,906 over the world, and I think 2171 01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:47,673 we've yet to find a vegetarian 2172 01:02:47,697 --> 01:02:48,375 or vegan. 2173 01:02:48,399 --> 01:02:49,376 There's no way. 2174 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,211 Sometimes, we do, but then we go 2175 01:02:51,235 --> 01:02:52,678 back and realize that we 2176 01:02:52,702 --> 01:02:54,180 actually sampled a cow or 2177 01:02:54,204 --> 01:02:56,216 something by mistake. 2178 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,551 Yeah, you, - there are no 2179 01:02:58,575 --> 01:03:00,821 vegans until recently, so... 2180 01:03:00,845 --> 01:03:02,022 When you get really big 2181 01:03:02,046 --> 01:03:03,289 villages, people crowding 2182 01:03:03,313 --> 01:03:04,724 together, and having a really 2183 01:03:04,748 --> 01:03:06,259 high, I guess, cereal... amount 2184 01:03:06,283 --> 01:03:07,727 of cereals in their diet, you 2185 01:03:07,751 --> 01:03:09,295 really see a difference in their 2186 01:03:09,319 --> 01:03:09,763 bones. 2187 01:03:09,787 --> 01:03:11,331 And these diseases that you 2188 01:03:11,355 --> 01:03:13,133 would never see... you never saw 2189 01:03:13,157 --> 01:03:14,935 in the paleolithic, you start to 2190 01:03:14,959 --> 01:03:16,669 see in kind of high abundances. 2191 01:03:16,693 --> 01:03:18,438 So does it make scientific 2192 01:03:18,462 --> 01:03:20,273 sense as well as logical sense 2193 01:03:20,297 --> 01:03:22,008 that we can learn things from 2194 01:03:22,032 --> 01:03:23,877 their lifestyle that would then 2195 01:03:23,901 --> 01:03:24,744 apply to US? 2196 01:03:24,768 --> 01:03:25,546 I think so. 2197 01:03:25,570 --> 01:03:26,813 I think you think of this 2198 01:03:26,837 --> 01:03:28,214 evolutionary trajectory that 2199 01:03:28,238 --> 01:03:29,782 made... how these humans evolved 2200 01:03:29,806 --> 01:03:31,051 to this state, the modern 2201 01:03:31,075 --> 01:03:32,552 humans, we got to be this way. 2202 01:03:32,576 --> 01:03:34,220 And it's over maybe 100,000 2203 01:03:34,244 --> 01:03:35,956 years of evolution to get to 2204 01:03:35,980 --> 01:03:37,523 be this state of actually 2205 01:03:37,547 --> 01:03:39,459 adapting to this diet of being a 2206 01:03:39,483 --> 01:03:41,294 hunter-gatherer, moving around 2207 01:03:41,318 --> 01:03:43,163 a lot, eating these wild foods. 2208 01:03:43,187 --> 01:03:44,497 I think there's no question that 2209 01:03:44,521 --> 01:03:45,798 for most of the time that we've 2210 01:03:45,822 --> 01:03:48,334 been around, we had a really... 2211 01:03:48,358 --> 01:03:50,636 That kind of nomadic lifestyle 2212 01:03:50,660 --> 01:03:53,073 with lots of exercise and eating 2213 01:03:53,097 --> 01:03:55,275 a lot of animal proteins and 2214 01:03:55,299 --> 01:03:56,809 wild plant foods. 2215 01:03:56,833 --> 01:03:58,278 But if you just think of what's 2216 01:03:58,302 --> 01:03:59,712 been successful in terms of US 2217 01:03:59,736 --> 01:04:01,114 as a species, we've survived, 2218 01:04:01,138 --> 01:04:02,615 you know, 100,000 years and most 2219 01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:04,450 of that... 95% of that... was 2220 01:04:04,474 --> 01:04:06,219 this kind of adaptation, was 2221 01:04:06,243 --> 01:04:08,154 eating these wild animal foods, 2222 01:04:08,178 --> 01:04:09,755 plants foods with lots of 2223 01:04:09,779 --> 01:04:10,524 exercise. 2224 01:04:10,548 --> 01:04:11,791 That's what we've been very 2225 01:04:11,815 --> 01:04:12,526 successful at. 2226 01:04:12,550 --> 01:04:13,726 It's a new experiment now. 2227 01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:15,095 This neolithic is a very short 2228 01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:16,496 period of time, you know, since 2229 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:17,964 we've been around, less than 10% 2230 01:04:17,988 --> 01:04:19,299 maybe that modern humans have 2231 01:04:19,323 --> 01:04:20,633 been around so, I don't know. 2232 01:04:20,657 --> 01:04:22,002 Maybe it's, you know... if you 2233 01:04:22,026 --> 01:04:23,303 think of it that way, I mean, 2234 01:04:23,327 --> 01:04:24,604 what we are adapted to is not 2235 01:04:24,628 --> 01:04:25,906 what we're living right now. 2236 01:04:25,930 --> 01:04:28,574 This kind of paleolithic diet, I 2237 01:04:28,598 --> 01:04:30,010 guess, is probably the most 2238 01:04:30,034 --> 01:04:31,411 optimum for modern humans. 2239 01:04:31,435 --> 01:04:32,213 It has to be. 2240 01:04:32,237 --> 01:04:33,346 It's what, you know, 2241 01:04:33,370 --> 01:04:35,015 evolutionary pressure has got US 2242 01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:36,616 towards, and we were successful 2243 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:37,783 in that kind of diet. 2244 01:04:37,807 --> 01:04:40,353 So I think it is... it's got to 2245 01:04:40,377 --> 01:04:42,923 be the best diet for humans. 2246 01:04:42,947 --> 01:04:44,557 If this way of eating is the 2247 01:04:44,581 --> 01:04:46,126 best diet for humans, I wanted 2248 01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:47,727 to understand how we could use 2249 01:04:47,751 --> 01:04:49,395 this knowledge now in our modern 2250 01:04:49,419 --> 01:04:50,463 world. 2251 01:04:50,487 --> 01:04:51,998 I called professor cordain to 2252 01:04:52,022 --> 01:04:53,299 see if anyone... medical 2253 01:04:53,323 --> 01:04:55,001 professional or scientist... was 2254 01:04:55,025 --> 01:04:56,402 putting this evolutionary 2255 01:04:56,426 --> 01:04:58,038 nutrition method of eating into 2256 01:04:58,062 --> 01:04:59,505 practice with real patients. 2257 01:04:59,529 --> 01:05:00,673 He suggested I contact 2258 01:05:00,697 --> 01:05:01,741 Dr. Lane sebring at 2259 01:05:01,765 --> 01:05:02,875 the sebring clinic in 2260 01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:04,844 wimberley, Texas, who is having 2261 01:05:04,868 --> 01:05:06,379 extraordinary results with his 2262 01:05:06,403 --> 01:05:07,914 patients employing just such an 2263 01:05:07,938 --> 01:05:09,215 evolution-based method of 2264 01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:09,750 eating. 2265 01:05:09,774 --> 01:05:11,284 One of the things I tell my 2266 01:05:11,308 --> 01:05:12,919 patients, you know, it's nice to 2267 01:05:12,943 --> 01:05:14,354 know improvement's possible. 2268 01:05:14,378 --> 01:05:15,855 Every year, the doctor adds a 2269 01:05:15,879 --> 01:05:17,223 new pill to your list, and 2270 01:05:17,247 --> 01:05:18,791 you've got another problem, and 2271 01:05:18,815 --> 01:05:20,460 the hope starts to fade. 2272 01:05:20,484 --> 01:05:22,295 I sort of break food into two 2273 01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:24,030 categories... human food and 2274 01:05:24,054 --> 01:05:25,131 non-human food. 2275 01:05:25,155 --> 01:05:27,100 And the human foods would be the 2276 01:05:27,124 --> 01:05:28,701 lean meat, chicken, fish, 2277 01:05:28,725 --> 01:05:30,536 Turkey, et cetera, preferably 2278 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,438 from an animal eating what it's 2279 01:05:32,462 --> 01:05:33,539 designed to eat. 2280 01:05:33,563 --> 01:05:35,275 Fruits, nuts, and vegetables. 2281 01:05:35,299 --> 01:05:37,110 The non-human food would be the 2282 01:05:37,134 --> 01:05:38,844 grains, which is probably the 2283 01:05:38,868 --> 01:05:40,313 worst problem we've got. 2284 01:05:40,337 --> 01:05:41,747 Dairy... after two years old, 2285 01:05:41,771 --> 01:05:43,116 we're not designed for dairy 2286 01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:44,584 after two years old, certainly 2287 01:05:44,608 --> 01:05:45,785 not from another animal. 2288 01:05:45,809 --> 01:05:47,720 Beans and potatoes. 2289 01:05:47,744 --> 01:05:49,155 And so those are the simple 2290 01:05:49,179 --> 01:05:50,756 categories that I put them in, 2291 01:05:50,780 --> 01:05:52,192 and people understand that. 2292 01:05:52,216 --> 01:05:53,226 I understand that. 2293 01:05:53,250 --> 01:05:55,595 And it helps me to make choices. 2294 01:05:55,619 --> 01:05:58,864 Grains cause US to lose height. 2295 01:05:58,888 --> 01:06:00,666 They cause a narrowing of the 2296 01:06:00,690 --> 01:06:01,934 sphenoid bone here. 2297 01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:03,803 Our bones aren't strong enough 2298 01:06:03,827 --> 01:06:05,705 to support the full weight, and 2299 01:06:05,729 --> 01:06:07,507 so... and buttress the skull, 2300 01:06:07,531 --> 01:06:09,009 and so this is narrowed. 2301 01:06:09,033 --> 01:06:10,610 This bone, now, is narrowed 2302 01:06:10,634 --> 01:06:11,112 down. 2303 01:06:11,136 --> 01:06:12,945 And so we have smaller brains as 2304 01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:14,480 a result of eating grains. 2305 01:06:14,504 --> 01:06:16,282 We have more scrunched up noses 2306 01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:17,483 we can't breathe through. 2307 01:06:17,507 --> 01:06:18,818 And we have a jaw that can't 2308 01:06:18,842 --> 01:06:20,286 hold a full complement of teeth, 2309 01:06:20,310 --> 01:06:21,787 and so we get overlapping teeth, 2310 01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:23,023 or we have no room for our 2311 01:06:23,047 --> 01:06:24,457 wisdom teeth, and that's common 2312 01:06:24,481 --> 01:06:25,858 to all civilized groups on the 2313 01:06:25,882 --> 01:06:28,594 planet because they eat grains 2314 01:06:28,618 --> 01:06:29,962 and that happened when that 2315 01:06:29,986 --> 01:06:31,231 began, and it follows the 2316 01:06:31,255 --> 01:06:32,732 introduction of grains into the 2317 01:06:32,756 --> 01:06:33,167 diet. 2318 01:06:33,191 --> 01:06:35,135 They bring in gluten, they bring 2319 01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:36,969 in yeast, they cause a chronic 2320 01:06:36,993 --> 01:06:38,838 inflammatory state of the gut. 2321 01:06:38,862 --> 01:06:43,409 And as a big initiator of almost 2322 01:06:43,433 --> 01:06:45,078 all our chronic inflammatory 2323 01:06:45,102 --> 01:06:46,979 diseases... autoimmune diseases, 2324 01:06:47,003 --> 01:06:48,014 rheumatoid arthritis... 2325 01:06:48,038 --> 01:06:49,049 Virtually absent in the 2326 01:06:49,073 --> 01:06:50,450 archaeologic record prior to the 2327 01:06:50,474 --> 01:06:51,751 institution of grains into the 2328 01:06:51,775 --> 01:06:52,119 diet. 2329 01:06:52,143 --> 01:06:54,254 I try to get patients to realize 2330 01:06:54,278 --> 01:06:56,456 what they need to do is to think 2331 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,491 about protein as time-released 2332 01:06:58,515 --> 01:07:00,593 glucose, okay? 2333 01:07:00,617 --> 01:07:01,927 You think about protein, the 2334 01:07:01,951 --> 01:07:03,429 liver can take protein and turn 2335 01:07:03,453 --> 01:07:04,430 it into glucose in a 2336 01:07:04,454 --> 01:07:05,498 time-release fashion. 2337 01:07:05,522 --> 01:07:07,967 Work harder makes more, okay? 2338 01:07:07,991 --> 01:07:09,902 That's how we're truly designed. 2339 01:07:09,926 --> 01:07:11,304 How beautiful is that? 2340 01:07:11,328 --> 01:07:13,039 So you got steady energy all day 2341 01:07:13,063 --> 01:07:13,474 long. 2342 01:07:13,498 --> 01:07:14,874 But if you eat a bunch of 2343 01:07:14,898 --> 01:07:16,542 carbohydrates, then the Insulin 2344 01:07:16,566 --> 01:07:18,144 level goes up and Insulin goes 2345 01:07:18,168 --> 01:07:19,779 to the liver and shuts off the 2346 01:07:19,803 --> 01:07:21,214 conversion of protein into 2347 01:07:21,238 --> 01:07:21,815 glucose. 2348 01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:23,949 So now, if you had a steak for 2349 01:07:23,973 --> 01:07:26,086 breakfast, you can't get to it 2350 01:07:26,110 --> 01:07:27,620 for energy, you see? 2351 01:07:27,644 --> 01:07:29,689 And so your sugars are gonna 2352 01:07:29,713 --> 01:07:31,391 start crashing pretty soon. 2353 01:07:31,415 --> 01:07:32,858 And at that point, the only way 2354 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:34,327 to get it back up is either to 2355 01:07:34,351 --> 01:07:35,828 rest a little bit... and you can 2356 01:07:35,852 --> 01:07:37,263 sort of stuff more protein in, 2357 01:07:37,287 --> 01:07:38,664 and then that'll bring it up, 2358 01:07:38,688 --> 01:07:39,999 but a lot of times, at that 2359 01:07:40,023 --> 01:07:41,767 point, they're craving carbs. 2360 01:07:41,791 --> 01:07:43,236 They want something quick, they 2361 01:07:43,260 --> 01:07:44,770 want it now, and they don't feel 2362 01:07:44,794 --> 01:07:45,172 good. 2363 01:07:45,196 --> 01:07:46,972 Each meal should start with a 2364 01:07:46,996 --> 01:07:48,508 major source of protein. 2365 01:07:48,532 --> 01:07:50,143 Surround that with all the 2366 01:07:50,167 --> 01:07:51,411 vegetables you want. 2367 01:07:51,435 --> 01:07:52,845 And then, in between meals, if 2368 01:07:52,869 --> 01:07:54,314 you want some fruits and nuts, 2369 01:07:54,338 --> 01:07:55,881 or maybe even with the meal you 2370 01:07:55,905 --> 01:07:56,949 can do that, as well. 2371 01:07:56,973 --> 01:07:58,551 Like, I like to throw nuts in a 2372 01:07:58,575 --> 01:07:59,552 big, green salad. 2373 01:07:59,576 --> 01:08:01,020 You know, sometimes fruit in 2374 01:08:01,044 --> 01:08:01,922 there, as well. 2375 01:08:01,946 --> 01:08:03,723 And if you need... those two 2376 01:08:03,747 --> 01:08:05,725 work... the fruits and nuts work 2377 01:08:05,749 --> 01:08:07,984 great for snacks. 2378 01:08:09,853 --> 01:08:11,063 Doctor, here we are at 2379 01:08:11,087 --> 01:08:12,565 brookshire brothers supermarket, 2380 01:08:12,589 --> 01:08:14,033 local supermarket here in town. 2381 01:08:14,057 --> 01:08:15,268 And most people shop in a 2382 01:08:15,292 --> 01:08:16,636 regular supermarket and, you 2383 01:08:16,660 --> 01:08:18,104 know, they want to really know 2384 01:08:18,128 --> 01:08:19,605 and understand what they should 2385 01:08:19,629 --> 01:08:21,107 buy and what they shouldn't buy 2386 01:08:21,131 --> 01:08:22,508 when they go shopping, so how 2387 01:08:22,532 --> 01:08:24,009 about we go inside and you show 2388 01:08:24,033 --> 01:08:25,569 US what to do? 2389 01:08:38,715 --> 01:08:40,260 The healthiest meat are the 2390 01:08:40,284 --> 01:08:41,361 larger cuts of meat. 2391 01:08:41,385 --> 01:08:42,995 You know, you want to get larger 2392 01:08:43,019 --> 01:08:44,864 cuts of meat. 2393 01:08:44,888 --> 01:08:47,633 And so, you know, here we've got 2394 01:08:47,657 --> 01:08:49,202 pork tenderloin. 2395 01:08:49,226 --> 01:08:51,271 Here's some more of my favorite, 2396 01:08:51,295 --> 01:08:52,772 here... sirloin steak. 2397 01:08:52,796 --> 01:08:54,274 Looking for... here we go. 2398 01:08:54,298 --> 01:08:55,209 Some rib eyes. 2399 01:08:55,233 --> 01:08:56,942 Let's get some distinctions, 2400 01:08:56,966 --> 01:08:58,110 here, 'cause a lot of people 2401 01:08:58,134 --> 01:08:59,412 that are on the run or whatnot, 2402 01:08:59,436 --> 01:09:00,680 they'll get frozen vegetables or 2403 01:09:00,704 --> 01:09:01,515 canned vegetables. 2404 01:09:01,539 --> 01:09:02,915 And they don't feel like they 2405 01:09:02,939 --> 01:09:03,949 have time for fresh. 2406 01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:05,050 Is it any good for US? 2407 01:09:05,074 --> 01:09:06,319 Well, between the frozen and 2408 01:09:06,343 --> 01:09:09,555 the canned, the frozen is much 2409 01:09:09,579 --> 01:09:10,324 better. 2410 01:09:10,348 --> 01:09:11,891 Much better for you. 2411 01:09:11,915 --> 01:09:13,926 It's not... they often add some 2412 01:09:13,950 --> 01:09:15,861 salt, but here's some collard 2413 01:09:15,885 --> 01:09:17,163 Greens, et cetera. 2414 01:09:17,187 --> 01:09:18,498 But these are frozen. 2415 01:09:18,522 --> 01:09:20,266 They're usually quick frozen, 2416 01:09:20,290 --> 01:09:22,168 and so maintain their freshness. 2417 01:09:22,192 --> 01:09:24,069 In some cases, the frozen can be 2418 01:09:24,093 --> 01:09:25,671 even better than old fresh 2419 01:09:25,695 --> 01:09:27,440 that's been laying around for 2420 01:09:27,464 --> 01:09:29,175 a while because this sort of, 2421 01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:31,043 for the most part, can stop any 2422 01:09:31,067 --> 01:09:34,204 sort of decline by freezing. 2423 01:09:36,306 --> 01:09:38,117 Romaine lettuce is much better 2424 01:09:38,141 --> 01:09:39,619 for you than the iceberg 2425 01:09:39,643 --> 01:09:40,287 lettuce. 2426 01:09:40,311 --> 01:09:42,087 There's a lot more in it. 2427 01:09:42,111 --> 01:09:43,223 Just a lot more nutritional 2428 01:09:43,247 --> 01:09:43,590 value? 2429 01:09:43,614 --> 01:09:45,791 A lot more nutritional value 2430 01:09:45,815 --> 01:09:46,460 in it. 2431 01:09:46,484 --> 01:09:47,693 The color tells you an awful 2432 01:09:47,717 --> 01:09:48,028 lot. 2433 01:09:48,052 --> 01:09:49,229 The more color it's got, the 2434 01:09:49,253 --> 01:09:50,197 better it is for you. 2435 01:09:50,221 --> 01:09:51,664 Unfortunately, sometimes you 2436 01:09:51,688 --> 01:09:53,032 have to be careful because 2437 01:09:53,056 --> 01:09:54,267 there's an awful lot of 2438 01:09:54,291 --> 01:09:55,668 pesticides used on red bell 2439 01:09:55,692 --> 01:09:57,203 peppers and strawberries and a 2440 01:09:57,227 --> 01:09:58,671 few things like that because 2441 01:09:58,695 --> 01:10:00,240 they have to do that if they're 2442 01:10:00,264 --> 01:10:01,407 not going to be grown 2443 01:10:01,431 --> 01:10:02,142 organically. 2444 01:10:02,166 --> 01:10:04,143 Here, we've got some beautiful 2445 01:10:04,167 --> 01:10:04,778 fruit. 2446 01:10:04,802 --> 01:10:06,446 Each one of these is gonna be 2447 01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:07,747 loaded with nutrients. 2448 01:10:07,771 --> 01:10:09,181 It's really hard to overdo this. 2449 01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:10,583 If you're diabetic, you need to 2450 01:10:10,607 --> 01:10:12,051 be careful and not have too much 2451 01:10:12,075 --> 01:10:12,486 fruit. 2452 01:10:12,510 --> 01:10:13,819 One of these a day. 2453 01:10:13,843 --> 01:10:15,555 There's still a lot of fruit 2454 01:10:15,579 --> 01:10:16,489 sugar in fruit. 2455 01:10:16,513 --> 01:10:17,324 There is. 2456 01:10:17,348 --> 01:10:18,325 Right. Fructose. 2457 01:10:18,349 --> 01:10:19,892 And fructose can do some bad 2458 01:10:19,916 --> 01:10:21,561 things to you in high amounts. 2459 01:10:21,585 --> 01:10:22,328 Right. 2460 01:10:22,352 --> 01:10:23,296 Especially if you're 2461 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:23,797 diabetic. 2462 01:10:23,821 --> 01:10:25,931 Exercise UN-does that damage, 2463 01:10:25,955 --> 01:10:28,133 by the way, and that's another 2464 01:10:28,157 --> 01:10:29,902 lecture, but this is an 2465 01:10:29,926 --> 01:10:32,104 excellent source of especially 2466 01:10:32,128 --> 01:10:33,873 energy through the day. 2467 01:10:33,897 --> 01:10:35,040 You know, eat half an apple 2468 01:10:35,064 --> 01:10:35,875 in between a meal. 2469 01:10:35,899 --> 01:10:36,477 It's great. 2470 01:10:36,501 --> 01:10:37,743 Then eat the other half later. 2471 01:10:37,767 --> 01:10:38,412 Or an orange. 2472 01:10:38,436 --> 01:10:39,512 It doesn't really matter. 2473 01:10:39,536 --> 01:10:40,746 You should eat the orange and 2474 01:10:40,770 --> 01:10:41,682 not the orange juice. 2475 01:10:41,706 --> 01:10:43,048 Orange juice can be way too much 2476 01:10:43,072 --> 01:10:44,708 sugar. 2477 01:10:45,709 --> 01:10:47,487 People hear, a lot of times, 2478 01:10:47,511 --> 01:10:48,854 whole grain oatmeal. 2479 01:10:48,878 --> 01:10:50,623 Whole grains have problems, 2480 01:10:50,647 --> 01:10:52,525 nutritional problems, that the 2481 01:10:52,549 --> 01:10:54,327 refined grains don't, so you 2482 01:10:54,351 --> 01:10:55,828 can't win either way. 2483 01:10:55,852 --> 01:10:57,330 They have their own set 2484 01:10:57,354 --> 01:10:58,031 of problems? 2485 01:10:58,055 --> 01:10:59,565 The whole grain thing that's 2486 01:10:59,589 --> 01:11:00,900 coming up now, actually... 2487 01:11:00,924 --> 01:11:01,924 it's a gimmick. 2488 01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:03,569 It's a gimmick, okay? 2489 01:11:03,593 --> 01:11:05,104 It's their touting whole grain, 2490 01:11:05,128 --> 01:11:06,238 it sounds kind of like 2491 01:11:06,262 --> 01:11:06,972 "wholesome." 2492 01:11:06,996 --> 01:11:07,808 It does. 2493 01:11:07,832 --> 01:11:09,409 They have hearts on there, 2494 01:11:09,433 --> 01:11:09,976 right? 2495 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,511 "Healthy for your heart." 2496 01:11:11,535 --> 01:11:14,013 That's what we're led to 2497 01:11:14,037 --> 01:11:15,014 believe. 2498 01:11:15,038 --> 01:11:16,482 But it's marketing. 2499 01:11:16,506 --> 01:11:17,583 And so what are the new 2500 01:11:17,607 --> 01:11:18,784 problems you get if you have a 2501 01:11:18,808 --> 01:11:19,386 whole grain? 2502 01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:20,920 Well, again, it holds a lot 2503 01:11:20,944 --> 01:11:22,288 of the minerals in the gut. 2504 01:11:22,312 --> 01:11:23,523 You can't absorb those. 2505 01:11:23,547 --> 01:11:25,190 It blocks the absorption of a 2506 01:11:25,214 --> 01:11:27,026 lot of the nutrients we need, so 2507 01:11:27,050 --> 01:11:28,394 it actually raises your 2508 01:11:28,418 --> 01:11:31,464 appetite... and increases your 2509 01:11:31,488 --> 01:11:32,532 need for a good multiple 2510 01:11:32,556 --> 01:11:33,766 vitamin that you should take 2511 01:11:33,790 --> 01:11:35,100 separate from the whole grains. 2512 01:11:35,124 --> 01:11:36,469 You take a multiple vitamin with 2513 01:11:36,493 --> 01:11:37,837 minerals, and you've got a bunch 2514 01:11:37,861 --> 01:11:39,071 of grains that go with that, 2515 01:11:39,095 --> 01:11:40,630 you're not gonna get any of it. 2516 01:11:42,031 --> 01:11:43,876 So you were giving me that 2517 01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:45,678 top list of things to avoid, 2518 01:11:45,702 --> 01:11:47,246 and that included bread. 2519 01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:49,882 The staple of American life, 2520 01:11:49,906 --> 01:11:51,651 pretty much. 2521 01:11:51,675 --> 01:11:52,918 It's what... unfortunately, 2522 01:11:52,942 --> 01:11:53,919 it's not good for US. 2523 01:11:53,943 --> 01:11:54,555 Okay. 2524 01:11:54,579 --> 01:11:55,788 If we don't change some 2525 01:11:55,812 --> 01:11:57,156 things, we're not gonna fix this 2526 01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:57,658 problem. 2527 01:11:57,682 --> 01:12:01,961 So here's a white bread. 2528 01:12:01,985 --> 01:12:03,162 There's not much in here that's 2529 01:12:03,186 --> 01:12:03,997 good for you at all. 2530 01:12:04,021 --> 01:12:05,164 It blocks... again, it blocks 2531 01:12:05,188 --> 01:12:06,231 the absorption of nutrients, it 2532 01:12:06,255 --> 01:12:09,034 promotes osteoporosis, 2533 01:12:09,058 --> 01:12:10,570 et cetera. 2534 01:12:10,594 --> 01:12:12,738 It's sugar. 2535 01:12:12,762 --> 01:12:16,742 Two slices of French bread... 2536 01:12:16,766 --> 01:12:19,111 1/4 cup of sugar, and a medium 2537 01:12:19,135 --> 01:12:21,213 baked potato are virtually 2538 01:12:21,237 --> 01:12:22,247 identical. 2539 01:12:22,271 --> 01:12:22,949 Okay. 2540 01:12:22,973 --> 01:12:24,384 So, two pieces of French bread 2541 01:12:24,408 --> 01:12:25,651 are the same as 1/4 cup of 2542 01:12:25,675 --> 01:12:26,085 sugar. 2543 01:12:26,109 --> 01:12:26,720 Exactly. 2544 01:12:26,744 --> 01:12:28,120 Baked potato... same as 1/4 2545 01:12:28,144 --> 01:12:28,855 cup of sugar. 2546 01:12:28,879 --> 01:12:30,255 Some people, the sugar goes 2547 01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:31,757 up faster with the bread than it 2548 01:12:31,781 --> 01:12:33,225 does with the 1/4 cup of sugar. 2549 01:12:33,249 --> 01:12:33,926 Really? 2550 01:12:33,950 --> 01:12:34,495 Yes. 2551 01:12:34,519 --> 01:12:35,961 Now, that's interesting. 2552 01:12:35,985 --> 01:12:37,830 Not everyone, but some 2553 01:12:37,854 --> 01:12:38,599 people. 2554 01:12:38,623 --> 01:12:39,932 Here we've got... 2555 01:12:39,956 --> 01:12:40,901 oat nut. 2556 01:12:40,925 --> 01:12:42,034 Oatmeal bread. 2557 01:12:42,058 --> 01:12:42,703 Yeah. 2558 01:12:42,727 --> 01:12:44,537 This is supposed to be good for 2559 01:12:44,561 --> 01:12:45,638 US, but it's not. 2560 01:12:45,662 --> 01:12:47,673 This actually has problems that 2561 01:12:47,697 --> 01:12:49,174 this one doesn't have. 2562 01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:50,510 It actually holds more of the 2563 01:12:50,534 --> 01:12:51,944 minerals into the gut from being 2564 01:12:51,968 --> 01:12:53,212 absorbed than this one does. 2565 01:12:53,236 --> 01:12:55,214 Because it's got the whole 2566 01:12:55,238 --> 01:12:55,949 grain. 2567 01:12:55,973 --> 01:12:57,983 And that particular... those 2568 01:12:58,007 --> 01:12:59,985 molecules bind up a lot of our 2569 01:13:00,009 --> 01:13:01,487 minerals that we need. 2570 01:13:01,511 --> 01:13:02,855 So this whole new, once 2571 01:13:02,879 --> 01:13:04,289 again, this whole-grain push 2572 01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:05,691 that's going on now kind of 2573 01:13:05,715 --> 01:13:07,092 coming against the low carb 2574 01:13:07,116 --> 01:13:08,528 thing, you're saying this is 2575 01:13:08,552 --> 01:13:09,762 much healthier for you. 2576 01:13:09,786 --> 01:13:11,764 It's not... it's just not 2577 01:13:11,788 --> 01:13:12,699 accurate. 2578 01:13:12,723 --> 01:13:14,700 It's a marketing strategy, much 2579 01:13:14,724 --> 01:13:16,235 like selling US on soy. 2580 01:13:16,259 --> 01:13:17,369 Okay. 2581 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:18,038 All right. 2582 01:13:18,062 --> 01:13:20,806 So there's really... not good 2583 01:13:20,830 --> 01:13:21,874 for you. 2584 01:13:21,898 --> 01:13:22,809 This is a "no." 2585 01:13:22,833 --> 01:13:24,376 This is big on the "no" list. 2586 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,436 This is big on the "no" list. 2587 01:13:30,073 --> 01:13:31,083 Now, okay. 2588 01:13:31,107 --> 01:13:33,352 Here's a perfect example of 2589 01:13:33,376 --> 01:13:35,888 something that could be marketed 2590 01:13:35,912 --> 01:13:37,089 as fat free. 2591 01:13:37,113 --> 01:13:38,991 And fat free is supposed to be 2592 01:13:39,015 --> 01:13:39,960 good for you. 2593 01:13:39,984 --> 01:13:41,661 Fat free is supposed to be good 2594 01:13:41,685 --> 01:13:43,162 for US, but in fact... and 2595 01:13:43,186 --> 01:13:44,530 there's no fat in here. 2596 01:13:44,554 --> 01:13:45,631 So it's fat free, but there's 2597 01:13:45,655 --> 01:13:46,732 nothing worse for you on the 2598 01:13:46,756 --> 01:13:47,767 planet than to eat all this 2599 01:13:47,791 --> 01:13:48,134 sugar. 2600 01:13:48,158 --> 01:13:49,268 But it's got "better" right 2601 01:13:49,292 --> 01:13:50,292 on the front. 2602 01:13:51,795 --> 01:13:53,473 Right, but it's not. 2603 01:13:53,497 --> 01:13:54,840 So, it's fat free, and 2604 01:13:54,864 --> 01:13:56,509 there's nothing worse for you. 2605 01:13:56,533 --> 01:13:58,177 High-fructose corn syrup. 2606 01:13:58,201 --> 01:13:59,045 Okay. 2607 01:13:59,069 --> 01:14:00,312 This is what you're really 2608 01:14:00,336 --> 01:14:01,081 trying to avoid. 2609 01:14:01,105 --> 01:14:02,114 Clogs up your arteries. 2610 01:14:02,138 --> 01:14:03,182 That's the number-one 2611 01:14:03,206 --> 01:14:03,784 ingredient. 2612 01:14:03,808 --> 01:14:04,917 That's about all it is. 2613 01:14:04,941 --> 01:14:05,985 Okay. 2614 01:14:06,009 --> 01:14:08,220 After that is salt. 2615 01:14:08,244 --> 01:14:10,222 So there's nothing in there that 2616 01:14:10,246 --> 01:14:10,956 you want. 2617 01:14:10,980 --> 01:14:11,725 Right. 2618 01:14:11,749 --> 01:14:13,493 And that's true for probably 2619 01:14:13,517 --> 01:14:15,294 most of the syrups and those 2620 01:14:15,318 --> 01:14:16,428 kinds of things. 2621 01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:17,563 Then you've got the 2622 01:14:17,587 --> 01:14:19,131 sugar-free version, and then you 2623 01:14:19,155 --> 01:14:20,533 have to worry about, "what do 2624 01:14:20,557 --> 01:14:21,502 they put in here?" 2625 01:14:21,526 --> 01:14:22,802 It's probably not found in 2626 01:14:22,826 --> 01:14:23,303 nature. 2627 01:14:23,327 --> 01:14:24,504 It's probably something 2628 01:14:24,528 --> 01:14:25,871 completely manufactured, our 2629 01:14:25,895 --> 01:14:27,439 body knows nothing of what to do 2630 01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:28,774 with it, and often works as 2631 01:14:28,798 --> 01:14:30,510 neurotransmitters in the brain 2632 01:14:30,534 --> 01:14:32,044 that mess up our thinking, 2633 01:14:32,068 --> 01:14:33,546 cause fogging of thinking, 2634 01:14:33,570 --> 01:14:34,314 et cetera. 2635 01:14:34,338 --> 01:14:35,581 Even shown to produce 2636 01:14:35,605 --> 01:14:37,006 depression. 2637 01:14:39,876 --> 01:14:41,554 Here's something off the shelf. 2638 01:14:41,578 --> 01:14:42,578 Look at this. 2639 01:14:44,914 --> 01:14:45,792 My goodness. 2640 01:14:45,816 --> 01:14:47,192 It almost looks like candy, 2641 01:14:47,216 --> 01:14:48,628 like, at Halloween that you 2642 01:14:48,652 --> 01:14:50,262 would get with all the sugar. 2643 01:14:50,286 --> 01:14:52,131 That's exactly what it is. 2644 01:14:52,155 --> 01:14:53,866 It's just coated with thick 2645 01:14:53,890 --> 01:14:57,002 icing on these little mini 2646 01:14:57,026 --> 01:14:58,571 wheats. 2647 01:14:58,595 --> 01:14:59,772 And so the ingredients, there's 2648 01:14:59,796 --> 01:15:00,541 whole-grain wheat. 2649 01:15:00,565 --> 01:15:01,707 We've already talked about the 2650 01:15:01,731 --> 01:15:02,942 fact that how there's nothing in 2651 01:15:02,966 --> 01:15:03,976 wheat that's good for you, 2652 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:04,377 really. 2653 01:15:04,401 --> 01:15:05,578 I mean, if you look at it, it's 2654 01:15:05,602 --> 01:15:06,746 kind of the scourge of health, 2655 01:15:06,770 --> 01:15:08,648 the beginning of the downfall of 2656 01:15:08,672 --> 01:15:09,449 our health. 2657 01:15:09,473 --> 01:15:10,883 Sugar is next, sorbitol, 2658 01:15:10,907 --> 01:15:12,752 gelatin reduced down, they throw 2659 01:15:12,776 --> 01:15:14,587 some minerals in here, which are 2660 01:15:14,611 --> 01:15:16,421 not gonna be absorbed because of 2661 01:15:16,445 --> 01:15:17,957 the grains hold that. 2662 01:15:17,981 --> 01:15:19,124 And it's whole grain, so it's 2663 01:15:19,148 --> 01:15:20,060 gonna hold it even more. 2664 01:15:20,084 --> 01:15:21,226 So this is... you're better off 2665 01:15:21,250 --> 01:15:22,261 not eating than eating this 2666 01:15:22,285 --> 01:15:23,129 unless you're dying of 2667 01:15:23,153 --> 01:15:24,196 starvation, you can't get any 2668 01:15:24,220 --> 01:15:24,998 sugar to the brain. 2669 01:15:25,022 --> 01:15:26,131 This will help you get sugar to 2670 01:15:26,155 --> 01:15:27,299 the brain, and that's all it'll 2671 01:15:27,323 --> 01:15:28,658 do for you. 2672 01:15:31,427 --> 01:15:32,471 Every once in a while, it 2673 01:15:32,495 --> 01:15:33,539 looks to me like maybe some 2674 01:15:33,563 --> 01:15:34,707 of the good stuff is hidden in 2675 01:15:34,731 --> 01:15:35,542 the middle of the... 2676 01:15:35,566 --> 01:15:36,609 This is about it. 2677 01:15:36,633 --> 01:15:37,376 Aisles. 2678 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:38,211 This is it? 2679 01:15:38,235 --> 01:15:39,444 This is about it. 2680 01:15:39,468 --> 01:15:42,782 Here, you've got some walnuts. 2681 01:15:42,806 --> 01:15:44,116 Very good food. 2682 01:15:44,140 --> 01:15:45,751 Those look great. 2683 01:15:45,775 --> 01:15:47,953 Pecans, almonds... these, 2684 01:15:47,977 --> 01:15:49,354 they're hard to overdo. 2685 01:15:49,378 --> 01:15:50,656 So, this is a "yes." 2686 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:51,757 This is a "yes." 2687 01:15:51,781 --> 01:15:52,925 This is a big "yes." 2688 01:15:52,949 --> 01:15:54,994 There's just so many things 2689 01:15:55,018 --> 01:15:57,262 here in the store that can do US 2690 01:15:57,286 --> 01:15:59,131 damage if we're not really 2691 01:15:59,155 --> 01:15:59,800 aware. 2692 01:15:59,824 --> 01:16:01,433 The answer is, in truth, 2693 01:16:01,457 --> 01:16:02,534 almost all of it. 2694 01:16:02,558 --> 01:16:03,569 Almost all of it. 2695 01:16:03,593 --> 01:16:05,237 If you go to the fruits and the 2696 01:16:05,261 --> 01:16:06,906 nuts and the vegetables and the 2697 01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:08,608 lean meats, chicken, then you're 2698 01:16:08,632 --> 01:16:09,075 good. 2699 01:16:09,099 --> 01:16:10,309 It's wonderful for you, you 2700 01:16:10,333 --> 01:16:10,711 know? 2701 01:16:10,735 --> 01:16:12,111 And people are over here at the 2702 01:16:12,135 --> 01:16:13,445 checkout in this little town. 2703 01:16:13,469 --> 01:16:14,680 They see me checking out, and 2704 01:16:14,704 --> 01:16:16,048 I'm pretty good about how I eat. 2705 01:16:16,072 --> 01:16:17,149 And they see and they just 2706 01:16:17,173 --> 01:16:18,483 think, "boy, I wish I was going 2707 01:16:18,507 --> 01:16:19,752 to your house for dinner," you 2708 01:16:19,776 --> 01:16:20,120 know? 2709 01:16:20,144 --> 01:16:21,286 But I've loaded up the steaks 2710 01:16:21,310 --> 01:16:22,521 and the roasts and all the fresh 2711 01:16:22,545 --> 01:16:23,789 Greens and salads, and it's much 2712 01:16:23,813 --> 01:16:24,357 more color. 2713 01:16:24,381 --> 01:16:25,490 And here comes somebody right 2714 01:16:25,514 --> 01:16:26,592 behind me with... you know, 2715 01:16:26,616 --> 01:16:27,727 they're kind of hiding their 2716 01:16:27,751 --> 01:16:28,928 stuff 'cause they know what I do 2717 01:16:28,952 --> 01:16:29,962 and how I think about it. 2718 01:16:29,986 --> 01:16:31,296 And I had a patient one time 2719 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:32,632 that told me, she said, "you 2720 01:16:32,656 --> 01:16:33,933 know, Dr. Sebring, after 2721 01:16:33,957 --> 01:16:35,134 reading about this, and I 2722 01:16:35,158 --> 01:16:36,568 realize that nothing we bought 2723 01:16:36,592 --> 01:16:37,403 was good for US. 2724 01:16:37,427 --> 01:16:38,904 Nothing we ate was good for US." 2725 01:16:38,928 --> 01:16:40,039 I shop very differently now. 2726 01:16:40,063 --> 01:16:41,173 It's a lot quicker shopping. 2727 01:16:41,197 --> 01:16:42,042 I'm just in and out. 2728 01:16:42,066 --> 01:16:43,308 I grab these few things, and i'm 2729 01:16:43,332 --> 01:16:43,810 right out. 2730 01:16:43,834 --> 01:16:44,877 I don't have to peruse the 2731 01:16:44,901 --> 01:16:46,111 aisles in trying to figure out, 2732 01:16:46,135 --> 01:16:47,312 "is this good for me or that?" 2733 01:16:47,336 --> 01:16:48,714 I already know it's not. 2734 01:16:48,738 --> 01:16:50,082 When we started eating meats, 2735 01:16:50,106 --> 01:16:51,550 that allowed the brain to double 2736 01:16:51,574 --> 01:16:52,085 in size. 2737 01:16:52,109 --> 01:16:55,087 Over 25% of our energy is used 2738 01:16:55,111 --> 01:16:56,689 in the brain. 2739 01:16:56,713 --> 01:16:58,691 And I've seen studies as high as 2740 01:16:58,715 --> 01:17:00,559 70% depending on what factors 2741 01:17:00,583 --> 01:17:01,861 they're looking at. 2742 01:17:01,885 --> 01:17:04,797 So, we got this compact source 2743 01:17:04,821 --> 01:17:07,800 of food, which was animal with 2744 01:17:07,824 --> 01:17:10,870 the proteins and fats that very 2745 01:17:10,894 --> 01:17:12,938 nutrient dense, and that allowed 2746 01:17:12,962 --> 01:17:14,807 US, then, to double the brain 2747 01:17:14,831 --> 01:17:15,375 size. 2748 01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:17,142 So we don't want to forsake 2749 01:17:17,166 --> 01:17:17,678 that. 2750 01:17:17,702 --> 01:17:19,712 There's a reason why that worked 2751 01:17:19,736 --> 01:17:21,747 that way, and when we do, we get 2752 01:17:21,771 --> 01:17:22,748 into trouble. 2753 01:17:22,772 --> 01:17:24,850 And, you know, sometimes, I feel 2754 01:17:24,874 --> 01:17:26,952 like we're on the precipice here 2755 01:17:26,976 --> 01:17:28,353 of falling off. 2756 01:17:28,377 --> 01:17:30,255 I feel like maybe we've just 2757 01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:32,057 learned just enough in time 2758 01:17:32,081 --> 01:17:34,226 through cordain and Boyd eaton, 2759 01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:36,195 et cetera, that that's gonna 2760 01:17:36,219 --> 01:17:37,763 give US the knowledge. 2761 01:17:37,787 --> 01:17:39,264 We'll grab ourselves before we 2762 01:17:39,288 --> 01:17:40,565 fall off the precipice of 2763 01:17:40,589 --> 01:17:41,334 health, here. 2764 01:17:41,358 --> 01:17:42,902 We're just going, and it's going 2765 01:17:42,926 --> 01:17:44,203 fast, and nobody's paying 2766 01:17:44,227 --> 01:17:44,838 attention. 2767 01:17:44,862 --> 01:17:47,306 Everybody's got their individual 2768 01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:49,675 plan for themselves, basically, 2769 01:17:49,699 --> 01:17:51,944 to perpetuate their wealth or 2770 01:17:51,968 --> 01:17:53,212 what have you. 2771 01:17:53,236 --> 01:17:54,346 And instead of looking at the 2772 01:17:54,370 --> 01:17:55,281 big picture, they're not 2773 01:17:55,305 --> 01:17:56,581 thinking about their kids, their 2774 01:17:56,605 --> 01:17:57,050 grandkids. 2775 01:17:57,074 --> 01:17:58,250 I mean, nutritionists, a lot of 2776 01:17:58,274 --> 01:17:59,185 them are saying that the 2777 01:17:59,209 --> 01:18:00,186 children born today won't 2778 01:18:00,210 --> 01:18:01,286 outlive their parents 'cause 2779 01:18:01,310 --> 01:18:02,154 they've never had good 2780 01:18:02,178 --> 01:18:02,655 nutrition. 2781 01:18:02,679 --> 01:18:04,690 And I've got 11-year-old 2782 01:18:04,714 --> 01:18:07,259 type 2 diabetics in my practice. 2783 01:18:07,283 --> 01:18:08,928 Type 2 is dietary-induced 2784 01:18:08,952 --> 01:18:09,696 diabetics? 2785 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:10,730 Dietary induced. 2786 01:18:10,754 --> 01:18:12,231 When I first graduated medical 2787 01:18:12,255 --> 01:18:13,598 school, I never saw anybody 2788 01:18:13,622 --> 01:18:15,134 under 55 with type 2 diabetes. 2789 01:18:15,158 --> 01:18:16,635 I've got children haven't even 2790 01:18:16,659 --> 01:18:18,771 hit puberty yet, and they've 2791 01:18:18,795 --> 01:18:20,372 got type 2 diabetes. 2792 01:18:20,396 --> 01:18:23,042 And so we've made a lot of 2793 01:18:23,066 --> 01:18:26,045 mistakes, here, and hopefully, 2794 01:18:26,069 --> 01:18:28,513 we can turn this around. 2795 01:18:28,537 --> 01:18:30,049 My 10-year global search for 2796 01:18:30,073 --> 01:18:31,550 the perfect human diet has been 2797 01:18:31,574 --> 01:18:32,918 an amazing and enlightening 2798 01:18:32,942 --> 01:18:34,219 treasure hunt, revealing a 2799 01:18:34,243 --> 01:18:35,454 wealth of ancestral and 2800 01:18:35,478 --> 01:18:37,089 traditional dietary insights, as 2801 01:18:37,113 --> 01:18:38,323 well as the most recent 2802 01:18:38,347 --> 01:18:39,859 anthropological understandings 2803 01:18:39,883 --> 01:18:41,093 of our species' dietary 2804 01:18:41,117 --> 01:18:42,527 evolution. 2805 01:18:42,551 --> 01:18:44,096 But what I find most fascinating 2806 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,564 is the knowledge that has been 2807 01:18:45,588 --> 01:18:46,999 unlocked through technological 2808 01:18:47,023 --> 01:18:48,000 advancements in the 2809 01:18:48,024 --> 01:18:50,770 anthropological sciences, namely 2810 01:18:50,794 --> 01:18:52,938 hard, scientific proof of what 2811 01:18:52,962 --> 01:18:54,974 was previously unknowable... 2812 01:18:54,998 --> 01:18:56,809 What we actually ate to develop 2813 01:18:56,833 --> 01:18:58,610 the health, strength, and brain 2814 01:18:58,634 --> 01:19:00,245 power to become the dominant 2815 01:19:00,269 --> 01:19:02,214 species on the planet. 2816 01:19:02,238 --> 01:19:03,749 We can now clearly see that 2817 01:19:03,773 --> 01:19:04,984 whenever and wherever 2818 01:19:05,008 --> 01:19:06,585 domesticated grains and plant 2819 01:19:06,609 --> 01:19:08,320 foods became our species' major 2820 01:19:08,344 --> 01:19:09,922 source of protein, our health 2821 01:19:09,946 --> 01:19:12,024 declined, and that animal 2822 01:19:12,048 --> 01:19:13,658 proteins and fats are 2823 01:19:13,682 --> 01:19:15,660 irreplaceable in an optimal 2824 01:19:15,684 --> 01:19:16,661 human diet. 2825 01:19:16,685 --> 01:19:18,430 This knowledge is a game 2826 01:19:18,454 --> 01:19:19,232 changer. 2827 01:19:19,256 --> 01:19:20,565 Clearly, the prevailing media 2828 01:19:20,589 --> 01:19:21,901 and government message is that 2829 01:19:21,925 --> 01:19:23,168 meat and animal protein are 2830 01:19:23,192 --> 01:19:24,469 inherently unhealthy, and we 2831 01:19:24,493 --> 01:19:25,537 should be eating less. 2832 01:19:25,561 --> 01:19:26,972 But I hope that what we've 2833 01:19:26,996 --> 01:19:28,373 learned on our search will 2834 01:19:28,397 --> 01:19:29,975 elevate and inspire the public 2835 01:19:29,999 --> 01:19:31,443 conversation to include the 2836 01:19:31,467 --> 01:19:33,078 fullest range of what is now 2837 01:19:33,102 --> 01:19:34,880 known about the authentic human 2838 01:19:34,904 --> 01:19:36,715 diet and that it will eventually 2839 01:19:36,739 --> 01:19:38,483 be enthusiastically embraced by 2840 01:19:38,507 --> 01:19:40,185 our government officials when 2841 01:19:40,209 --> 01:19:42,011 forming public policy. 2842 01:19:42,711 --> 01:19:44,289 Do I think we can find our 2843 01:19:44,313 --> 01:19:46,058 way out of the obesity epidemic? 2844 01:19:46,082 --> 01:19:47,526 I mean, the techniques are 2845 01:19:47,550 --> 01:19:48,994 there to get US out of it. 2846 01:19:49,018 --> 01:19:50,662 Whether people choose to adopt 2847 01:19:50,686 --> 01:19:52,397 those techniques and methods is 2848 01:19:52,421 --> 01:19:53,432 another question. 2849 01:19:53,456 --> 01:19:55,034 If they do, unquestionably we 2850 01:19:55,058 --> 01:19:56,101 can get out of it. 2851 01:19:56,125 --> 01:19:57,569 It's easy to get out of it. 2852 01:19:57,593 --> 01:19:59,171 What's the definition of a 2853 01:19:59,195 --> 01:19:59,572 fad? 2854 01:19:59,596 --> 01:20:01,306 Generally, a fad is a short-term 2855 01:20:01,330 --> 01:20:02,808 thing that a whole bunch of 2856 01:20:02,832 --> 01:20:04,543 people are... to use a word that 2857 01:20:04,567 --> 01:20:06,211 didn't use to exist... glomming 2858 01:20:06,235 --> 01:20:07,913 on to because somebody has just 2859 01:20:07,937 --> 01:20:09,581 decided to publicize it or make 2860 01:20:09,605 --> 01:20:10,883 it famous. 2861 01:20:10,907 --> 01:20:12,117 And, so let's see. 2862 01:20:12,141 --> 01:20:13,953 Could a fad diet be something 2863 01:20:13,977 --> 01:20:15,855 that our ancestors were eating 2864 01:20:15,879 --> 01:20:17,356 for thousands of years? 2865 01:20:17,380 --> 01:20:18,958 I don't think that fits into the 2866 01:20:18,982 --> 01:20:19,659 word "fad." 2867 01:20:19,683 --> 01:20:22,161 I didn't invent this diet. 2868 01:20:22,185 --> 01:20:24,163 All we did is we uncovered what 2869 01:20:24,187 --> 01:20:25,464 was already there. 2870 01:20:25,488 --> 01:20:27,399 We uncovered the diet that all 2871 01:20:27,423 --> 01:20:29,401 human beings ate on this planet 2872 01:20:29,425 --> 01:20:30,936 until 10,000 years ago. 2873 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,704 So we did detective work in 2874 01:20:32,728 --> 01:20:34,673 finding out what that diet is, 2875 01:20:34,697 --> 01:20:36,741 but don't attribute this diet to 2876 01:20:36,765 --> 01:20:37,177 me. 2877 01:20:37,201 --> 01:20:38,878 There will be other scientists 2878 01:20:38,902 --> 01:20:40,545 that will come along, but the 2879 01:20:40,569 --> 01:20:42,181 fundamental tenet of the diet 2880 01:20:42,205 --> 01:20:43,815 will not ever be shown to be 2881 01:20:43,839 --> 01:20:45,450 wrong because it's based upon 2882 01:20:45,474 --> 01:20:47,152 our genes, and it's based upon 2883 01:20:47,176 --> 01:20:48,620 evolution through natural 2884 01:20:48,644 --> 01:20:49,355 selection. 2885 01:20:49,379 --> 01:20:50,956 I think you have to go back 2886 01:20:50,980 --> 01:20:52,357 to what we are being most 2887 01:20:52,381 --> 01:20:54,026 successfully adapted to to this 2888 01:20:54,050 --> 01:20:54,527 point. 2889 01:20:54,551 --> 01:20:55,961 So I think the process... I 2890 01:20:55,985 --> 01:20:57,496 mean, the refined sugars, we've 2891 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,730 got to get rid of those. 2892 01:20:58,754 --> 01:20:59,831 I think you have to have more 2893 01:20:59,855 --> 01:21:00,933 exercise that has to be built 2894 01:21:00,957 --> 01:21:01,634 in. 2895 01:21:01,658 --> 01:21:03,068 I mean, our paleolithic humans 2896 01:21:03,092 --> 01:21:04,536 were moving around all the time. 2897 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:05,837 They had a lot of exercise. 2898 01:21:05,861 --> 01:21:07,272 I think meat eating is 2899 01:21:07,296 --> 01:21:09,141 important, and processing food 2900 01:21:09,165 --> 01:21:11,076 like cooking meat and all those 2901 01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,777 kind of things... it's what 2902 01:21:12,801 --> 01:21:14,646 separates US as a primate from 2903 01:21:14,670 --> 01:21:15,847 the other primates, I think. 2904 01:21:15,871 --> 01:21:18,317 We have the same biology that 2905 01:21:18,341 --> 01:21:20,452 our ancestors did, and that 2906 01:21:20,476 --> 01:21:22,754 biology is oriented toward the 2907 01:21:22,778 --> 01:21:25,090 lifestyle, including the diet, 2908 01:21:25,114 --> 01:21:26,959 that they enjoyed at that time. 2909 01:21:26,983 --> 01:21:28,027 Very often, the word 2910 01:21:28,051 --> 01:21:29,061 "convenience" comes up. 2911 01:21:29,085 --> 01:21:30,329 You know, "well, this is not 2912 01:21:30,353 --> 01:21:30,931 convenient. 2913 01:21:30,955 --> 01:21:31,964 That's not convenient." 2914 01:21:31,988 --> 01:21:33,332 And I've said over and over and 2915 01:21:33,356 --> 01:21:35,167 over again, "health is not 2916 01:21:35,191 --> 01:21:37,336 convenient, but it's not half as 2917 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,471 inconvenient as a fatal illness. 2918 01:21:39,495 --> 01:21:42,074 Which would you like to choose?" 2919 01:21:42,098 --> 01:21:43,608 I know that for me, once I 2920 01:21:43,632 --> 01:21:45,310 understood the full story of our 2921 01:21:45,334 --> 01:21:46,979 dietary evolution, it made sense 2922 01:21:47,003 --> 01:21:48,480 to embrace the perfect human 2923 01:21:48,504 --> 01:21:50,115 diet's optimal method of eating 2924 01:21:50,139 --> 01:21:51,783 in order to live a full, healthy 2925 01:21:51,807 --> 01:21:53,452 and happy life, especially given 2926 01:21:53,476 --> 01:21:54,553 my heart condition. 2927 01:21:54,577 --> 01:21:56,121 I've been eating this way for 2928 01:21:56,145 --> 01:21:57,622 more than five years now, and 2929 01:21:57,646 --> 01:21:59,024 much to the amazement of my 2930 01:21:59,048 --> 01:22:00,525 doctors, my bloodwork clearly 2931 01:22:00,549 --> 01:22:02,094 illustrates that was absolutely 2932 01:22:02,118 --> 01:22:03,695 the right decision. 2933 01:22:03,719 --> 01:22:05,364 But what gives me the most hope 2934 01:22:05,388 --> 01:22:06,966 that we can solve our epidemic 2935 01:22:06,990 --> 01:22:08,600 of obesity and chronic disease 2936 01:22:08,624 --> 01:22:10,135 is that there is both a new 2937 01:22:10,159 --> 01:22:11,670 ground swell of interest in 2938 01:22:11,694 --> 01:22:13,105 ancestral health and more 2939 01:22:13,129 --> 01:22:14,573 practicing physicians like 2940 01:22:14,597 --> 01:22:15,740 Dr. Lane sebring are 2941 01:22:15,764 --> 01:22:17,142 successfully using these 2942 01:22:17,166 --> 01:22:18,443 evolutionary nutrition 2943 01:22:18,467 --> 01:22:19,878 principles with patients, 2944 01:22:19,902 --> 01:22:21,646 proving daily that eating a 2945 01:22:21,670 --> 01:22:23,448 perfect, human diet of human 2946 01:22:23,472 --> 01:22:25,417 foods and eliminating non-human 2947 01:22:25,441 --> 01:22:28,153 foods makes sense, ends patient 2948 01:22:28,177 --> 01:22:30,455 confusion, and most importantly, 2949 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,057 is both practical and 2950 01:22:32,081 --> 01:22:33,125 sustainable. 2951 01:22:33,149 --> 01:22:34,359 Thankfully, we don't have to 2952 01:22:34,383 --> 01:22:35,694 wait for the government or the 2953 01:22:35,718 --> 01:22:37,096 media to expand their scientific 2954 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,463 understanding to take advantage 2955 01:22:38,487 --> 01:22:40,065 of these crucial discoveries. 2956 01:22:40,089 --> 01:22:41,733 This is a method of eating any 2957 01:22:41,757 --> 01:22:43,368 of US can adopt beginning with 2958 01:22:43,392 --> 01:22:45,004 our next meal. 2959 01:22:45,028 --> 01:22:46,638 As David getoff pointed out 2960 01:22:46,662 --> 01:22:48,273 earlier, there are those who 2961 01:22:48,297 --> 01:22:49,841 will cry that this is just 2962 01:22:49,865 --> 01:22:51,476 another fad diet, a passing 2963 01:22:51,500 --> 01:22:53,345 obsession that will be forgotten 2964 01:22:53,369 --> 01:22:54,679 in a few short years. 2965 01:22:54,703 --> 01:22:56,348 But when I asked loren cordain's 2966 01:22:56,372 --> 01:22:57,849 colleague Dr. Boyd eaton about 2967 01:22:57,873 --> 01:22:59,351 that misconception, I think he 2968 01:22:59,375 --> 01:23:01,453 summed it up perfectly. 2969 01:23:01,477 --> 01:23:03,155 "If this is a fad diet, then 2970 01:23:03,179 --> 01:23:04,823 it's a two-million-year-old 2971 01:23:04,847 --> 01:23:06,482 fad." 195669

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