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TYLER:
Hey, what's up, guys?
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Tyler here with Secure Team.
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Something has been discovered
down on the moon.
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[POP MUSIC PLAYING]
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[MUSIC STOPS]
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[UPBEAT SONG PLAYING]
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So throughout history,
UFOs have been sighted
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by astronauts, astronomers
and civilians
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in outer space, ss well
as here on the ground.
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MAN: What about all the sightings
that have occurred on land?
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I think there has always been this
social stigma that's been attached
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to people who have
been able to record UFOs
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and actually believe in
what they have recorded
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as something potentially
unnatural or not of this earth.
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MAN: Tell me about
the first time you noticed
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something strange in
the sky above Dunedoo.
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Well, I came out here
in like 2012, in August
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and pretty much the second night
that I was staying here.
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I noticed a strange
ball of light
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moving across the house in the
backyard, on the property behind us
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and it was moving very
slow over the rooftops
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and it was actually illuminating
the rooftops underneath it
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as it was moving.
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This thing is phenomenal.
It's just highly unusual.
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And this was around
11:00 p.m. in the evening.
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And, um, in this town here, there's
not many people are up at night.
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There's not many street lights.
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The town, um, it prides itself on being
the astronomy capital of Australia
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because of the fact they have not much
light pollution like in the city.
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So, yeah, the second night I was
here, I saw a very strange,
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large, spherical ball, which is
half the size of the house
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hovering above the house,
then heading north.
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The direction north was
very unusual.
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So, um, and it just
continued since then,
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um, unabated, the sightings,
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It's been a lot of people
have seen it now,
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you know, people have come up here and
seen it from all around Australia
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and, um, it's just getting
bigger and bigger in number.
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Um, the actual eye
witnesses to what's going on.
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How long do you think it's gonna take
till people accept these things are real?
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How do you mean? Accept at
what level the population becomes,
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when it becomes a
sociological... Sociologically, real?
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I don't know.
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When does it reach a level like
that to what happened in Australia?
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That's what really scares me,
because what we're interested in
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is technically not normal.
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As Damien told you, he almost
attracted a psychiatric label
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for filming what he's seeing,
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so they're implying it was a
hallucination. But he's filming it.
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To me, you're attracting a
decent case of medication
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if you think I can film
my hallucination.
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But a doctor can suggest that
with a straight face.
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That to me is really scary.
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Because this, this is aberrant.
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I never believed that we're
on the fringe of society.
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This is an outlier
belief system.
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This is insane what
we're talking about.
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MAN: But tell me what is sane?
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Well sane is, being a
robot taking your brain out
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and just going to
work and doing it
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and never thinking
outside the box.
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That's how they classify sanity.
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Never, actually...
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But none of us are running
around like headless chooks.
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We're all holding down jobs
and mortgages and blah, blah.
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So we're not completely nuts.
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But our belief system is not nutty
enough that you look up into the sky
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and Damien's made it
even more dangerous
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because he's filming something
that's not supposed to exist.
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While it's been widely discussed
that UFOs are of an alien nature,
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we're starting to realize that many
of these may also be man-made.
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TYLER: What is
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Secret Space theory, and what are
your findings on the topic?
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When you talk about secret space
theories or secret space ideas,
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you're really talking about two different
things here and they're both valuable.
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They're both important.
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But we're really talking about
conventional secret space operations
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and unconventional
secret space operations.
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So let's... The
conventional first
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Look at it from a
military point of view
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and that of, particularly, of
the United States military,
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which looks at space as a
necessary Theater of Operation,
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a necessary platform that
must be dominated by them.
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If they're going to dominate
any theaters of operation
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on the surface of Earth,
they must control space.
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It's absolutely essential.
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All those smart
bombs, smart missiles,
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weapons systems that
are highly technological
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rely on satellite information
being fed to them,
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providing them
with all kinds of data,
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maps and telemetry
information, and so forth.
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And so, you must have
dominance in space
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if you're gonna have dominance
on the surface of this planet.
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Every military power on
this globe knows this fact.
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I think it's important to have
serious historians like Richard Dolan,
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who can really look into the UFO
phenomenon and the history behind it,
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and we're going to look into
some of that history today,
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TYLER: The YB-49 nine was the first vector
shaped, jet-engine-equipped aircraft
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to successfully fly our
airspace in 1947.
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MAN: [ON RADIO] YB-49, a huge 100-ton
dreadnought packs 32,000 horsepower
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in its eight jet engines.
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At the controls during
the initial flight,
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Our veteran test pilot, Max Stanley,
center, and a crew of two,
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theirs is a big job.
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And like a giant boomerang, the
mammoth craft picks up speed.
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Trailing streams of
smoke from its jets,
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Uncle Sam's latest ace
of the Atom Age
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passes its test with
flying colors.
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TYLER: The YB-49.
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It was a successor to the YB-35
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which used propellers to
navigate the skies
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and a precursor to the
B2 stealth bomber.
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The Convair Kingfish
reconnaissance aircraft design
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was the ultimate result of a
series of proposals
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designed as a replacement
for the Lockheed U2.
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The Kingfish competed with
the Lockheed A12
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for the Project Oxcart mission
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and lost to that design in 1959.
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The Lockheed Have Blue
was the code name
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for Lockheed's proof-of-concept
demonstrator for a stealth bomber.
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Have Blue was designed by
Lockheed's Skunk Works division
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and tested at Groom
Lake, Nevada.
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The Have Blue was the first
fixed-wing aircraft
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whose external shape was
defined by radar engineering
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rather than by aerospace
engineering.
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The aircraft's faceted shape was designed
to deflect electromagnetic waves
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in directions other than that of the
originating radar emitter,
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greatly reducing its radar
cross-section,
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keeping it secret in space,
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a precursor design to the F-117.
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Over the years, as the United States'
technological progress advanced
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so, too, did their
military arsenal.
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This arsenal has been tested in the field
of battle, like the Vietnam War,
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and, of course, in the
Middle East,
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from the 80s up until recently.
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REPORTER: The skies over
Baghdad have been illuminated.
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TYLER: Not every citizen of
the public is exposed
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to the modernization of
our military craft.
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But there are those who have
worked inside our military
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who have watched firsthand
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the development of incredible secret
aerospace technologies evolve over time.
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One such individual who has first-hand
witnessed the feats of our own technology
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is a man by the name
of Jim Goodall,
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former Air Force man, spooky
airplane researcher
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and friend of former director of
Lockheed Skunk Works Ben Rich.
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Jim is an extremely
experienced individual
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when it comes to the hidden
history of secret aircraft.
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He blew the lid on Area 51,
and as a photographer,
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he's uncovered the hidden
history of test aircraft
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before they were public
knowledge.
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This is the shape of the F-117.
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It's an arrowhead.
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Well, if it's being
lit up for whatever,
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and this was given to
me by F-117 crew chief.
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This is the actual RAM, Radar
Absorbant Material, used on the F-117.
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I said, "Can I go
to jail for that?"
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They said, "No, no, the
technology has changed so much."
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This is 40 years old.
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It's old technology,
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And that's the other thing
you got to take in consideration
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when you see programs
that are being declassified
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or talked about.
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We're talking about stuff
that may have flown
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and program came to an end,
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all the tooling destroyed
20 or 30 years ago,
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and we're just finding
out about it today.
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I'm a historian. That's
probably why I do what I do.
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I'm a historian, I'm an Aviation
historian. I'm a military historian.
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And I figure, as an
American taxpayer,
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you're spending my money on our defense,
which is the proper thing to do.
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But I should have...
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But if I ask a question of my government,
I expect an honest answer.
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I don't expect to get
a run around.
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If it's not classified
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or if the part I'm asking
about is not classified,
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then damn it, I expect an
answer. I don't expect a runaround.
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I worked on the A-12 early
in the program,
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which is the
predecessor to the SR-71.
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It's the single-place
CIA-funded-and-operated Blackbird.
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They were flight-tested and
based out of Area 51,
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but they were operationally...
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They flew out of Kadena
Air Base, Okinawa.
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That's the same place
the SR-71s operated
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after the A-12s were
replaced by the SR.
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I worked in the assets, but
primarily telemetry.
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So that's the primary
reason I was at Edwards,
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and one of the reasons
I flew into Area 51
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is to install some additional
telemetry equipment.
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The stuff I was working
on wasn't classified.
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The programs that
we're monitoring were.
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There would be flight
testing for the XB-70
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the C-141 Starlifter and,
of course, the Blackbird.
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And on May 30, 1967, Mele
Vojvodich flew the first A-12
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from Area 51
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air-refueled twice, and flew
from Area 51 in central Nevada
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to Kadena, Okinawa, in
5 hours and 29 minutes.
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If you're going to take a
commercial airliner today,
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it'll take you 17 or 18 hours
for that same flight.
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Uh, Mele was the first guy
to fly an operational mission,
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and that was on May 30, 1967.
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TYLER: When was
the last flight?
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[JIM LAUGHS]
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The last flight was
on the June 21, 1968,
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and it wasn't until the
fall or early winter of 1988,
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20 years after it was retired,
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that they admitted
to the existence
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of the single-place CIA
version of the Blackbird
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referred to as the A-12.
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So if we go back to the
early history of aeronautics
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and we look at some of the craft
that have been created and built
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by the military-industrial
contractors over the years,
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many of them have taken on the
shape of a boomerang,
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a V, or dare I say, a triangle.
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DOLAN: You're going to have a
militarization of space,
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and you're absolutely
going to have
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a kind of natural escalation of
weapons, like an arms race in space.
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And that's going to require
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a significant classified
component of that militarized space.
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And so that's, that is a
secret space program.
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And there is no argument
against this whatsoever.
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Like everyone knows
that this is the case.
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We got the NRO, the National
Reconnaissance Office,
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for example, which has been
operational since 1960,
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and they have had a
significant, uh, presence in space.
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It's almost completely...
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Not almost, is
completely classified.
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We have essentially zero,
uh, real, tangible information
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about what the NRO is doing,
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or the most bare-bones
stuff, that's all.
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And, you know, you've got the Navy,
the Air Force, all of which, both of which
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have classified space elements,
and now with a unified space force
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that's all going to
be reorganized and...
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But you're gonna have massive,
classified components to all of this.
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So that's a conventional way
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to look at a secret
space program.
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And that will
incorporate, uh, you know,
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probably some very interesting
technology in the satellites
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in terms of optics, maybe
in terms of even
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their ability to maintain orbit
for long periods of time.
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Uh, you know, I mean,
you've got the X-37B
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which is kind of a militarized
version of the space shuttle,
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and all of those missions
are highly classified.
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We know a little bit about what
the X-37B does, is capable of,
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but we don't really know
what the missions are.
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We're not really
informed of that.
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So there's a lot of elements
of a secret space program
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that are no great
shakes, at least from...
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They're not going to
transform our world view.
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But then there's the other element
of the secret space program
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that people often really
want to know about it,
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which involves, let
us say, unconventional
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and unacknowledged
activities and science
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that are not supposed to exist.
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And that involved what we
would call the UFOs, all right.
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So that's where it gets a
little more interesting, perhaps.
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GOODALL: A dear friend
just passed away.
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He is a retired SR-71
pilot named Dave Fruehauf.
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And Dave retired as
a Lieutenant-Colonel.
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I'm talking with Dave and I said,
"Dave, you believe in UFOs?"
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He said, "Absolutely,
positively, they do exist."
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He said. "I was flying a night
training mission in an SR-71
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"out of Kadena, Okinawa.
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"I was in the far
Western Pacific.
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"We're at 78,000
feet, 77,000 feet,
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"at Mach 2.7.
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"We're going straight.
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It's 11 o'clock at night
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"and we're sort of heading
our way back towards Kadena.
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"It was a three-quarter
moon, and all of a sudden,"
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uh, Dave said he got a
glint of something metallic
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five or six miles off
to his right
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and maybe 4,000 or 5,000
feet above him.
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So he contacts Kadena on
secure voice, said,
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"Do we have another bird up?"
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They said, "You'd know if we
did, you were at the briefing.
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"No, you're the
only one up there."
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He said "No, I'm not. I'm
gonna go take a closer look."
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His back-seater said. "Hey,
Dave, we have company."
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He said, "Yeah, I'm
gonna see who it is."
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So he moved, pushed,
the advances, the throttles
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about a ten-degree
bank and he's climbing,
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and he's heading
towards this object.
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He's still getting glints
off of the edges.
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It's not circular shaped. It
has sharp edges,
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and he's getting glints, and it's
metallic, or it's shining.
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He figured when he was about a
mile or two away from this object,
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and it's still a couple of
thousand feet below it,
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it accelerated at about a
30-degree angle of attack
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and left him in the dust.
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About 85,000 feet
to 180,000 feet.
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I mean, boom.
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I mean, it was like he was
heading in the opposite direction,
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He figured it's going at least
8,000-10,000 miles an hour.
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NARRATOR: In 1978,
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cosmonaut Pavel Popovich claimed
he saw a sparkling white object
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in the shape of an
equilateral triangle
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flying at about 10,000
meters above Earth.
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I think it's amazing
the way that NASA
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and other aeronautics industries
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have been able to hide this
strange alien or UFO phenomenon
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from the general
public for so many years.
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And on that side of it,
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what I would say is that,
you know, we don't have...
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We don't have firm,
authenticated proof.
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We don't have an admission from the
government, from the military
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from any of those
people, that says,
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"Yes, there are UFOs out there"
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or, "We have constructed a
element of our space program
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"to deal with UFOs that
are out there."
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However, what we
can say is that there are
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enough pieces of testimony
and evidence and anomalies
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that have been
recorded in Earth orbit,
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that, or beyond, frankly,
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that strongly indicate
to a rational observer,
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that's something really
odd is going on out there.
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That is not supposed
to be happening
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by any standard of understanding
or science that we have.
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So that's, that's where
you start getting into.
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Is there a secret space program that is
connected with the UFO phenomenon?
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And I personally think that the
answer to that is there absolutely is.
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And the real question is...
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How far does it go? What are
the real contours and parameters
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of this presumably very secret,
classified space program?
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And that's where, you know... I
don't know anyone who actually knows
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the full dimensions
of how far it goes.
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In other words, do
we have black triangles
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that can go beyond Earth
orbit to a nearby planet
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or the moon or something
like that?
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I mean, there are people
who make this claim.
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Or do we have
replicated alien tech?
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Um, in terms of, you know,
like, the legendary ARV.
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The Alien Reproduction Vehicle.
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Did we actually make that?
And does that go?
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Has that gone throughout
the solar system?
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We don't, we don't have
proof of these things,
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but we have our stories.
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Some of them are
pretty darn interesting,
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and some of them
are maybe believable
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to those of us who
have looked into it.
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But we're in an area of what I would
say, making informed speculation
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based on genuine
knowledge that we have.
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But we don't have
the full picture.
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So we get some information
and at least at this point
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makes some inferences,
and maybe put together
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some interesting hypotheses
about what's going on.
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TYLER: As you watch, notice
all of the different signs
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of triangle or TR-3B
like objects
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in all of the mission patches
and NASA imagery.
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[TYLER READING]
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This is NASA's official seal,
which was also designed
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back in the late 1950s at the same
time as the meatball insignia.
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[TYLER READING]
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[CONTINUES READING]
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[CONTINUES READING]
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[CONTINUES READING]
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[CONTINUES READING]
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German Aerospace... Turkey...
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[CONTINUES READING]
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Are you starting to see
the pattern?
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[CONTINUES READING]
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The official patch for Russia's
old space station.
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This is the official insignia for NASA's
famed Apollo lunar landing program.
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For example, the official insignia of
NASA's STS space shuttle program
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is comprised of more than one
representation of subtle vector symbology.
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[CONTINUES READING]
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[CONTINUES READING]
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[CONTINUES READING]
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[CONTINUES READING]
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[CONTINUES READING]
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Notice the strange and mysterious
vector-shaped UFO
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reflected in the
astronaut's visor.
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We leave you
much that is undone.
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There are great
ideas undiscovered.
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Breakthroughs available
to those who can remove
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one of truths protective layers.
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My name is Alara.
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Um, I kind of woke
up to the ET presence
378
00:32:25,012 --> 00:32:29,292
and I would say, got
activated in late 2017
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when I had a close encounter
with a spacecraft
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that was about fifty feet in front of
me, that de-cloaked in front of me.
381
00:32:36,368 --> 00:32:42,167
After that happened to me, I started going
to UFO events and conferences and so forth,
382
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trying to seek out other
experiencers
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and begin to get some understanding
of what happened to me
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and what the truth
was about this planet,
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00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:49,760
what was going on here.
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So in 2019,
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I went to Contact in the Desert in
Indian Wells, California,
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and when I was a that event,
I decided to go to the CE-5.
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I think it was on
a Friday night.
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00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:07,157
I went to that CE-5 event, and a lot of
kind of unusual things happened that night
391
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that I was not expecting
to happen.
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00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:10,989
During that CE-5 event.
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I did see a couple of ships phase
in and phase out in the distance.
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Uh, lots of, like,
activity like that.
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00:33:17,961 --> 00:33:20,481
But what was very interesting
was that there was a very heavy
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00:33:20,515 --> 00:33:24,071
military presence there
throughout the entire evening.
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And I kind of was
puzzled as to why.
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Because I didn't
see that much activity
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00:33:29,145 --> 00:33:31,630
to justify that kind
of military presence.
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00:33:31,664 --> 00:33:33,632
There was one
really unusual event
401
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that happened that night
while I was at that CE-5.
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There was these two...
403
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There was these two, I
don't how to describe them,
404
00:33:40,466 --> 00:33:43,262
except they looked like
butterflies that were on fire.
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00:33:43,297 --> 00:33:44,884
They were very unusual.
406
00:33:46,334 --> 00:33:49,130
And I've never seen or
experienced anything like this.
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00:33:49,165 --> 00:33:53,272
They sort of phased in and
phased out probably three times.
408
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And when they phased in, they
would dance, and they were kind of...
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00:33:56,758 --> 00:33:59,727
They had the whole crowd in
awe, and the crowd was just tripping
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on these butterfly UFOs.
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00:34:03,006 --> 00:34:04,363
And they were dancing and
then they would phase out,
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anyway, it was a pretty
intense experience.
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00:34:08,425 --> 00:34:12,429
And at one point, I kind of felt a lot
of different energies over that field.
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I sensed what I believe were
cloaked ships above that field.
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00:34:16,709 --> 00:34:19,574
But I didn't... Of course, I
didn't see anything like that,
416
00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:21,818
so I ended up leaving the event.
417
00:34:21,852 --> 00:34:24,476
I think it was around 11
o'clock at night. I left by myself.
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Got my car. Was
staying at a hotel
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about two miles away that night.
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When I was driving to the hotel,
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I notice this really bright white
light in the rear-view mirror,
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so I was about a mile away
from the hotel at the time,
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I drove to the hotel
parking lot,
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I parked my car and
I got out my phone
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00:34:39,594 --> 00:34:42,321
and I started taping
this white light.
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And it was a ship, and it
was sitting above that field,
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at the CE5 that I just left where
there was nothing going on.
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I remember thinking, "I
wonder if anybody at the field
429
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"can see what I'm
taping right now."
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00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:56,646
Because it was really bright
and it was very significant.
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00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,752
So I was taping that
for about 30-35 minutes.
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00:34:59,787 --> 00:35:03,135
It was there for quite a while,
just sitting above that field,
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And at a point, I ended
up going back into my room
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and playing the footage back.
When I played the footage back,
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I noticed there was a TR-3B
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be sitting there cloaked, above that
ship, above the field the entire time.
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00:35:25,502 --> 00:35:26,710
[OBJECT CLATTERING]
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Uh, and that kind of
blew my mind actually.
439
00:35:51,494 --> 00:35:54,117
Uh, what I thought was
really significant about that
440
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:57,293
was, number one, that
my phone picked this up,
441
00:35:57,327 --> 00:35:59,916
but I didn't see it
with my naked eye.
442
00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:02,539
I thought that was interesting.
I also thought it was interesting
443
00:36:02,574 --> 00:36:04,955
that here, if you really
look closely at the footage,
444
00:36:04,990 --> 00:36:06,405
it looks like there's
more than one,
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00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,063
although one stands out
far more than the other.
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00:36:09,097 --> 00:36:11,859
So, um, I thought it
was significant also
447
00:36:11,893 --> 00:36:15,621
that there was a TR-3B craft,
whether there was one or two
448
00:36:15,656 --> 00:36:19,349
sitting above the
field of a CE-5 event
449
00:36:19,384 --> 00:36:21,696
at a major UFO conference.
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00:36:21,731 --> 00:36:25,044
I thought, that's kind of spoke
volumes about what's going on here.
451
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:28,496
And so, if you ask
me, I think that there...
452
00:36:28,531 --> 00:36:31,948
I think that we've back
engineered alien technology.
453
00:36:31,982 --> 00:36:34,399
I think our secret
space programs
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00:36:34,433 --> 00:36:37,747
have really super-advanced
stuff that they back engineered,
455
00:36:37,781 --> 00:36:40,025
and I think they're hiding
it from the population.
456
00:36:40,059 --> 00:36:41,647
And I think they're
able to do this
457
00:36:41,682 --> 00:36:46,169
because all of these craft
can cloak to our naked eye.
458
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:51,416
Also, it occurred to me later that
those two butterfly UFO's
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that were on fire, that
perhaps those...
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00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:56,938
That I was right about my
intuitive hit on those
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00:36:56,973 --> 00:36:59,665
and maybe those
were a projection
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00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,116
coming from one of those
cloaked ships above the field.
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TYLER: Here we have a clip
from a man named Eric
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that was filmed on
September 7, 2021,
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of an obvious triangular
TR-3B shaped object
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00:37:45,849 --> 00:37:48,507
with three distinct lights
on each corner.
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He says that it was captured in
northwest Pennsylvania.
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00:37:52,373 --> 00:37:55,342
He said that the object looked
longer than others
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00:37:55,376 --> 00:37:59,173
and was very low, and has a
very low, deep tone
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that is obvious when the
object was going over,
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00:38:02,107 --> 00:38:04,903
because of how different it
was and sounded,
472
00:38:04,937 --> 00:38:06,801
compared to other aircraft.
473
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,956
JOE: What is that?
474
00:38:28,961 --> 00:38:30,653
MAN: Where?
475
00:38:30,687 --> 00:38:35,727
TYLER: Here, we have an almost identical
object to the clip that you just saw
476
00:38:35,761 --> 00:38:38,833
with white glowing lights
on each corner,
477
00:38:38,868 --> 00:38:41,560
forming a triangle that
seems to be moving
478
00:38:41,595 --> 00:38:45,702
steadily and silently as
it passes above
479
00:38:45,737 --> 00:38:48,326
and finally fades off into
the darkness.
480
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,744
The man who recorded this, Joe
Wall, from New Hampshire said,
481
00:38:52,778 --> 00:38:56,817
"I made a little compilation where
the original video plays first,
482
00:38:56,851 --> 00:38:59,371
"then with it zoomed
in and slowed.
483
00:38:59,406 --> 00:39:01,649
"I thought it was pretty insane.
484
00:39:01,684 --> 00:39:05,653
"That whole town kept losing
power that night as well.
485
00:39:05,688 --> 00:39:07,793
"It would go off and back on.
486
00:39:07,828 --> 00:39:10,658
"Couldn't even use my debit
card at the gas station.
487
00:39:10,693 --> 00:39:13,109
"I stayed at a hotel
right there."
488
00:39:13,592 --> 00:39:15,629
[STATIC]
489
00:39:52,148 --> 00:39:55,082
Here's a clip from a man
named Mark Kline
490
00:39:55,116 --> 00:39:57,015
that was filmed above his home,
491
00:39:57,049 --> 00:40:00,639
where he was doing some sky
watching and filming in infrared
492
00:40:00,674 --> 00:40:03,677
recording the stars, and seeing
what he could capture.
493
00:40:03,711 --> 00:40:07,232
At first, we see a satellite as
indicated in the video,
494
00:40:07,266 --> 00:40:09,441
and then, as indicated
with the arrow,
495
00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:14,308
We then see a distinct
triangular pattern of lights,
496
00:40:14,342 --> 00:40:16,793
this time emitting more
of a blue tinge
497
00:40:16,828 --> 00:40:20,901
but nonetheless flying in a
perfect triangular formation.
498
00:40:20,935 --> 00:40:25,457
Silently passing overhead with
the trees in the foreground.
499
00:40:25,492 --> 00:40:29,461
And some of you may be asking,
"Well, why is it that if these are
500
00:40:29,496 --> 00:40:35,191
"solid triangular craft, are we able to
sometimes see stars through them?"
501
00:40:35,225 --> 00:40:38,677
One of the main theories regarding
some of the technology
502
00:40:38,712 --> 00:40:40,610
used within these vehicles
503
00:40:40,645 --> 00:40:44,096
is a cloaking ability that
essentially puts
504
00:40:44,131 --> 00:40:47,203
a mirrored image
around the object
505
00:40:47,237 --> 00:40:49,343
of everything that is
surrounding it,
506
00:40:49,377 --> 00:40:54,141
hence giving you a view as if you are
looking straight through the object.
507
00:41:07,085 --> 00:41:10,571
In this amazing clip, we
have another object
508
00:41:10,606 --> 00:41:14,195
that is extremely similar to
one of the earlier clips
509
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:18,579
we showed of another one of these
triangular formations of lights
510
00:41:18,614 --> 00:41:21,686
moving in a perfect
synchronized fashion,
511
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:25,103
as if the lights are locked
in with one another.
512
00:41:25,137 --> 00:41:28,486
The man who captured this,
Michael Serrata, said,
513
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,524
"I captured footage of a huge
triangle formation
514
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,769
"or possibly a single object,
two months ago.
515
00:41:35,803 --> 00:41:40,463
"I have since filmed other triangular
UFOs similar to this object,
516
00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:43,673
but are different triangle-shaped
formations.
517
00:41:43,708 --> 00:41:46,814
And as the clip starts, we
see a few objects
518
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:51,543
moving through space, and we can
see laser pointers being used
519
00:41:51,578 --> 00:41:55,236
to attract the attention of whatever
these unknown objects are.
520
00:41:55,271 --> 00:41:59,551
And so, as they were focusing their
laser pointer on the one object
521
00:41:59,586 --> 00:42:01,311
towards the center
of the screen,
522
00:42:01,346 --> 00:42:04,383
they completely miss
what comes next.
523
00:42:04,418 --> 00:42:07,801
What appears to be nearly
identical to the earlier clip
524
00:42:07,835 --> 00:42:13,013
where we have, this time, three
fiery red glowing lights
525
00:42:13,047 --> 00:42:16,982
to the right of the screen, moving
upwards to the northwest,
526
00:42:17,017 --> 00:42:22,091
where you can almost make out the the angle
of the way the object is being viewed
527
00:42:22,125 --> 00:42:25,128
by the distance and the
way the lights look,
528
00:42:25,163 --> 00:42:27,545
from the brightest light being
closest to the camera
529
00:42:27,579 --> 00:42:30,824
and the furthest and
smallest light,
530
00:42:30,858 --> 00:42:33,412
a little more hard to see
in the background,
531
00:42:33,447 --> 00:42:35,794
as if the object is tilted.
532
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:38,141
Here, you're seeing an
enhanced version
533
00:42:38,176 --> 00:42:40,799
of the formation of
fiery red lights
534
00:42:40,834 --> 00:42:44,872
that once again could be a
formation, or could simply be
535
00:42:44,907 --> 00:42:48,911
a solid craft using some sort
of cloaking technology.
536
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:24,256
Here is a recent clip taken above
Shanghai, China, in June of 2021,
537
00:43:24,291 --> 00:43:26,396
where bystanders on the ground
were shocked to see
538
00:43:26,431 --> 00:43:31,229
this solid, sharp-edged
black triangle
539
00:43:31,263 --> 00:43:36,337
sitting silently in the sky, moving slowly
through the clouds of Shanghai.
540
00:43:58,843 --> 00:44:00,361
[INDISTINCT MURMURING
IN MANDARIN]
541
00:44:19,795 --> 00:44:21,624
MAN: Got a weird, little thing.
542
00:44:22,590 --> 00:44:24,662
Looks like another
stingray-type thing.
543
00:44:37,985 --> 00:44:43,750
TYLER: Here, we have what the viewer called
a stingray-like triangle object.
544
00:44:43,784 --> 00:44:49,617
It was captured in the skies over
England on August 16, 2021.
545
00:44:57,315 --> 00:45:00,490
In 2004, the United States Navy
546
00:45:00,525 --> 00:45:04,253
applied for a patent to produce
a triangular craft
547
00:45:04,287 --> 00:45:06,773
that looks a lot like the TR-3B,
548
00:45:06,807 --> 00:45:10,915
and its propulsion system could be
something completely different
549
00:45:10,949 --> 00:45:15,574
than what the original TR-3B
supposedly operated on.
550
00:45:22,409 --> 00:45:24,998
My name is Edgar
Rothschild Fouche.
551
00:45:25,032 --> 00:45:27,414
I'm here to speak about
secret government technology,
552
00:45:27,448 --> 00:45:29,830
reverse engineering
of alien artifacts
553
00:45:29,865 --> 00:45:31,798
and the Top Secret
MJ-12 committee,
554
00:45:31,832 --> 00:45:33,154
Before I'm through,
you'll know exactly
555
00:45:33,178 --> 00:45:34,559
what the flying triangle is,
556
00:45:34,593 --> 00:45:36,906
the one that's been
sighted around the world.
557
00:45:36,941 --> 00:45:39,840
It's the most exotic and
classified aerospace vehicle
558
00:45:40,530 --> 00:45:42,912
that's ever been built.
559
00:45:42,947 --> 00:45:49,367
And may be stealthily hovering
over Phoenix, Belgium, or your city.
560
00:45:49,401 --> 00:45:51,714
The company in question
was involved in developing
561
00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:54,855
the TR-3B gravity
disruption device
562
00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:57,030
called a magnetic
field disruptor,
563
00:45:57,064 --> 00:46:00,792
which is the circular
accelerator, part of the TR-3B,
564
00:46:00,827 --> 00:46:03,968
which I'll go into
more detail in a minute.
565
00:46:04,002 --> 00:46:08,524
So I'd first learned about
Ed Fouche back in 2004,
566
00:46:08,558 --> 00:46:10,906
while I was just doing some
research on anti-gravity,
567
00:46:10,940 --> 00:46:15,842
and I found an old presentation
called 'the case for anti-gravity'
568
00:46:15,876 --> 00:46:18,568
and, uh, right
towards the end of that,
569
00:46:18,603 --> 00:46:20,225
they had mentioned Ed Fouche
570
00:46:20,260 --> 00:46:23,194
and quasi-crystals
and meta-materials, um,
571
00:46:23,228 --> 00:46:26,059
which I started looking into.
572
00:46:26,093 --> 00:46:29,476
Found, you know, Ed Fouche's,
you know, original presentations
573
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:31,996
from IUFOC in 1998.
574
00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:35,275
This idea of rotating mercury
plasma engine.
575
00:46:35,309 --> 00:46:38,761
And so I started making a couple of
videos on the physics ideas
576
00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:42,730
behind this anti-gravity, mercury-spinning,
mercury-centrifuge engine
577
00:46:42,765 --> 00:46:45,388
and that whole gem theory thing.
578
00:46:45,423 --> 00:46:49,634
And that caught the attention of
someone who knew Ed Fouche,
579
00:46:49,668 --> 00:46:51,291
a guy named Ella McCoy,
580
00:46:51,325 --> 00:46:53,983
who had a YouTube
channel on back in the day.
581
00:46:54,018 --> 00:46:56,848
But he put me in
touch with Ed Fouche.
582
00:46:56,883 --> 00:46:59,540
The rest of this video,
although not complete,
583
00:46:59,575 --> 00:47:02,302
is a list of man-made
advanced propulsion,
584
00:47:02,336 --> 00:47:06,858
or as those of us in the know like to call
them, Alien Reproduction Vehicles.
585
00:47:06,893 --> 00:47:09,896
I'm going to go over a few
known examples of these,
586
00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:13,865
and how to differentiate between
them and actual alien vehicles,
587
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:17,420
those produced and flown by
extraterrestrial entities.
588
00:47:17,455 --> 00:47:21,114
The first on our list is the
TR-3B Flying Triangle,
589
00:47:21,148 --> 00:47:25,428
which is the craft we see in the
first ever episode of X-Files.
590
00:47:25,463 --> 00:47:28,017
This craft was the first
ever prototype ARV
591
00:47:28,052 --> 00:47:31,227
to use the superfluid antigravity
centrifuge engine.
592
00:47:31,262 --> 00:47:33,160
It looks like they built
the engine first
593
00:47:33,195 --> 00:47:34,551
and then came up with
the aircraft design
594
00:47:34,575 --> 00:47:37,233
to build around it, to
make it fly.
595
00:47:37,268 --> 00:47:38,994
If you notice, the
fluid is rotated
596
00:47:39,028 --> 00:47:41,928
inside of a small
semi-spherical container
597
00:47:41,962 --> 00:47:43,861
located at the center
of the craft.
598
00:47:43,895 --> 00:47:46,553
Since theTR-3B uses
an accelerator
599
00:47:46,587 --> 00:47:48,106
with a small radius,
600
00:47:48,141 --> 00:47:53,318
it only succeeds in eliminating 85%
of the total weight of the craft.
601
00:47:53,353 --> 00:47:58,082
Thus the rest of the lift is provided by three
thrusters at each corner of the triangle,
602
00:47:58,116 --> 00:48:01,533
similar to the PV-704's use in the
Avrocar propulsion drive.
603
00:48:01,568 --> 00:48:04,916
Only these run on liquid
oxy-hydrogen.
604
00:48:04,951 --> 00:48:07,746
These served to stabilize and
control the flight of the craft
605
00:48:07,781 --> 00:48:09,990
as well as a portion
of the lift.
606
00:48:10,025 --> 00:48:12,786
Stabilization and direction is
a key design problem
607
00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:18,033
with craft that utilize a superfluid,
super-ferro fluid in the gravity engine.
608
00:48:18,067 --> 00:48:22,002
Note the three stabilizer units mounted on
the underside of these other craft.
609
00:48:22,037 --> 00:48:25,592
These air most likely some sort
of specialized gyroscopes.
610
00:48:25,626 --> 00:48:30,666
But they also could be some sort of wave
amplifiers as Bob Lazar suggests.
611
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:34,946
Either way, their function is more or less
the same, stabilization and direction.
612
00:48:34,981 --> 00:48:37,328
You can tell by the fact that
there are three of them.
613
00:48:37,362 --> 00:48:41,194
It appears that they also double
as tripod landing gear.
614
00:48:41,228 --> 00:48:45,681
Brad Sorenson produced this drawing of an
ARV or Alien Reproduction Vehicle.
615
00:48:45,715 --> 00:48:48,373
Here are some other
photographs of similar craft
616
00:48:48,408 --> 00:48:51,618
which, in my opinion, are all man-made
products of the secret government.
617
00:48:51,652 --> 00:48:54,897
To me, the most fascinating
vehicle from the Aurora program
618
00:48:54,932 --> 00:48:57,417
has been the TR-3B.
619
00:48:57,451 --> 00:49:02,732
It's a triangular-shaped vehicle
that uses a circular accelerator,
620
00:49:02,767 --> 00:49:04,872
if you imagine a circle
within a triangle,
621
00:49:05,908 --> 00:49:08,773
that rotates a mercury-based
plasma
622
00:49:08,807 --> 00:49:11,879
at 60,000 revolutions
per minute,
623
00:49:11,914 --> 00:49:14,641
pressurized at 250,000
atmospheres
624
00:49:14,675 --> 00:49:17,333
and super-cooled to 150
degrees Kelvin.
625
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:22,925
I absolutely that all the
triangular-shaped vehicles
626
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,445
that have been spotted
belong to the US Government.
627
00:49:25,479 --> 00:49:29,311
RYS: He does come from a background
of, you know, Intelligence.
628
00:49:29,345 --> 00:49:31,865
And he did teach me a lot
629
00:49:31,899 --> 00:49:35,489
about, you know, about how the
intelligence works in the military,
630
00:49:35,524 --> 00:49:39,321
and how these special access
programs, and how all the funding
631
00:49:39,355 --> 00:49:42,255
and the contracting and all
that stuff really works.
632
00:49:42,289 --> 00:49:44,636
He did teach me an
incredible amount
633
00:49:44,671 --> 00:49:48,847
about, you know, how that stuff really
functions behind the scenes,
634
00:49:48,882 --> 00:49:52,575
but it also helped me, you know, verify
a lot of what he was saying.
635
00:49:52,610 --> 00:49:56,614
First off, we asked TD Barnes if Bob
Lazar ever worked out of Area 51
636
00:49:56,648 --> 00:49:58,685
and his answer was
straight out, "No."
637
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,103
He was former special projects
manager out at Area 51
638
00:50:03,138 --> 00:50:04,656
for almost a decade
639
00:50:04,691 --> 00:50:08,177
When I asked him if Ed Fouche, if he
could, you know, ask around
640
00:50:08,212 --> 00:50:13,044
and tell me if Ed Fouche worked out
there, his response back was,
641
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:17,635
"I can neither confirm nor deny whether
Ed Fouche worked out of Area 51".
642
00:50:17,669 --> 00:50:21,432
And that kind of, you know, confirmed it
for me, you know, when TD Barnes said
643
00:50:21,466 --> 00:50:24,090
he can't confirm nor deny whether
Ed worked out there.
644
00:50:24,124 --> 00:50:26,644
That was like, "Well, that means
he worked out there,"
645
00:50:27,576 --> 00:50:30,475
TYLER: What was it about
his explanation
646
00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:36,033
of the physics of the
supposed TR-3B
647
00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:38,173
that piqued your interest
648
00:50:38,207 --> 00:50:41,590
and made you think, "Hmm, maybe
there's something here."
649
00:50:41,624 --> 00:50:43,350
The thing that
interested me first was
650
00:50:43,385 --> 00:50:46,215
that there was a couple
different sources talking
651
00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:49,218
about this rotating, you
know, rotating superconductors,
652
00:50:49,253 --> 00:50:50,530
research was just coming out.
653
00:50:50,564 --> 00:50:53,533
A lot of that research was being
done at NASA at the time,
654
00:50:53,567 --> 00:50:58,572
and was coming out through American
anti-gravity around the same time.
655
00:50:58,607 --> 00:51:02,093
So we're learning about NASA's
research with rotating super conductors,
656
00:51:02,128 --> 00:51:06,615
the Russian Podkletnov and his
rotating superconductor experiment.
657
00:51:06,649 --> 00:51:10,446
And so I I thought that there might
be some sort of connection between,
658
00:51:10,481 --> 00:51:13,415
you know, rotating
superconductor anti-gravity research
659
00:51:13,449 --> 00:51:16,659
and this idea of a rotating
mercury-based plasma.
660
00:51:16,694 --> 00:51:19,938
And so I began investigating
that connection first.
661
00:51:19,973 --> 00:51:24,288
That's what drew me, initially, to the
the propulsion technology side of it.
662
00:51:24,322 --> 00:51:27,912
But then, the mention of
quasicrystals and meta-materials
663
00:51:27,946 --> 00:51:31,743
and all that interesting scientific
literature I started finding
664
00:51:31,778 --> 00:51:34,125
when I began researching
those topics
665
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,266
made me instantly realize
that, you know, this was,
666
00:51:37,301 --> 00:51:40,166
you know, meta-materials are
used for invisibility technology
667
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,892
and that then I started realizing
you know, realizing
668
00:51:42,927 --> 00:51:47,932
all the technology that, you know, all the
research that has been done on Area 51,
669
00:51:47,966 --> 00:51:49,599
Project Rainbow and all
this other stuff,
670
00:51:49,623 --> 00:51:54,421
and I was able to confirm that a
lot of those, uh, these materials
671
00:51:54,456 --> 00:51:56,561
were, in fact, you know,
something special,
672
00:51:56,596 --> 00:52:01,152
and that, you know, some ordinary
staff sergeant from the military
673
00:52:01,187 --> 00:52:03,913
knowing about these things,
there was something,
674
00:52:03,948 --> 00:52:06,606
you know, maybe
something more there.
675
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,955
'Cause it wasn't something that your
average person talked about in 1998.
676
00:52:10,989 --> 00:52:13,509
No, it was virtually
unheard of, in fact.
677
00:52:13,544 --> 00:52:15,580
A lot of that
physics literature,
678
00:52:15,615 --> 00:52:18,135
you can't find a lot
of meta-materials.
679
00:52:18,169 --> 00:52:20,137
You can't find a lot
of stuff in the literature
680
00:52:20,171 --> 00:52:23,899
on meta-materials or
quasicrystals before, in 2002.
681
00:52:23,933 --> 00:52:26,902
And then Fouche was talking
about these things in 1998
682
00:52:26,936 --> 00:52:28,697
nearly four years earlier.
683
00:52:28,731 --> 00:52:32,045
So that sort of, you know,
really made me say,
684
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:34,806
"Wow, this is something you
should be paying attention to
685
00:52:34,841 --> 00:52:36,498
"and looking deeper into."
686
00:52:38,776 --> 00:52:41,951
When I started researching
quasicrystals, you know,
687
00:52:41,986 --> 00:52:45,576
I realized that the guy who discovered
quasicrystals, Dan Shechtman,
688
00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:49,649
did his Post-Doc after receiving
his materials degree
689
00:52:49,683 --> 00:52:52,238
in Material Science from
Technion University in Israel,
690
00:52:52,272 --> 00:52:56,207
he went and did his Post
Doc at Wright Patterson
691
00:52:56,242 --> 00:52:59,900
at the Wright State
Materiels Command,
692
00:52:59,935 --> 00:53:02,455
which is the exact place
where, you know, you'd expect
693
00:53:02,489 --> 00:53:05,872
these sort of alien
materials to be, you know,
694
00:53:05,906 --> 00:53:07,529
to be present and
being analyzed.
695
00:53:07,563 --> 00:53:10,187
So I thought that was a
very interesting connection
696
00:53:10,221 --> 00:53:15,226
that the scientist who
discovered quasicrystals
697
00:53:15,261 --> 00:53:19,782
did some work connected to
Wright Patterson Materiel Command
698
00:53:19,817 --> 00:53:23,234
on icosahedral phase
crystals and stuff.
699
00:53:23,269 --> 00:53:27,204
So It was quite interesting
to learn about that.
700
00:53:27,238 --> 00:53:30,207
Then, of course, if you research all
the history of metamaterials,
701
00:53:30,241 --> 00:53:33,969
you'll find that these were
developed pretty much at Area 51,
702
00:53:34,003 --> 00:53:37,835
was a lot of the pioneering
research into meta-materials
703
00:53:37,869 --> 00:53:41,632
and nuclear magnetic
resonance and EMF response.
704
00:53:41,666 --> 00:53:46,671
Those technologies
were pioneered at Area 51.
705
00:53:46,706 --> 00:53:50,882
Again meta-material is an
interesting word.
706
00:53:50,917 --> 00:53:53,851
It's basically...
Meta-material, for the layman,
707
00:53:53,885 --> 00:53:59,650
is a material that gains its resonant
or response properties
708
00:53:59,684 --> 00:54:01,617
through its structure.
709
00:54:01,652 --> 00:54:03,757
Not through its composition
or what it's made of,
710
00:54:03,792 --> 00:54:07,796
but by just the natural structuring
of the actual material.
711
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:11,869
So it was discovered that grids, for
example, had a different response,
712
00:54:11,903 --> 00:54:16,667
or, um, the things with sharp edges
had a different response
713
00:54:16,701 --> 00:54:18,427
than smooth edges and
rounded edges,
714
00:54:18,462 --> 00:54:23,087
which is why you see all those sharp
edges on the F-117 stealth fighter
715
00:54:23,121 --> 00:54:24,951
versus you know, the round edges
716
00:54:24,985 --> 00:54:26,918
on the fuselage than
the quasicrystals,
717
00:54:26,953 --> 00:54:29,266
because that was some
deep insight
718
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:31,889
into some interesting
information,
719
00:54:31,923 --> 00:54:33,960
and how he knew about that
720
00:54:33,994 --> 00:54:37,135
and how he was aware of
those technologies...
721
00:54:37,170 --> 00:54:41,312
Um, you know, I'm still
trying to figure that out,
722
00:54:41,347 --> 00:54:44,798
and I, you know, I think it might have
been... He might've knew Harold Puthoff
723
00:54:44,833 --> 00:54:48,319
and might have gotten the information
through Harold Puthoff.
724
00:54:48,354 --> 00:54:52,116
There was one contact I know that he
had because he talked about Hal Puthoff
725
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:57,570
and actually had his email and
put me in touch with Hal Puthoff
726
00:54:57,604 --> 00:54:59,330
years ago at one point,
727
00:54:59,365 --> 00:55:02,506
So I know that he had
some of these contacts
728
00:55:02,540 --> 00:55:05,716
who are into this black
world physics stuff.
729
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:11,411
So a quasicrystal is is a
periodic crystal.
730
00:55:11,446 --> 00:55:13,689
It has a different phase.
731
00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:15,622
It has recurring symmetries,
732
00:55:15,657 --> 00:55:17,762
but it doesn't have
innate symmetry
733
00:55:17,797 --> 00:55:18,798
at the basic level.
734
00:55:18,832 --> 00:55:21,352
It has a more complex
symmetry shape.
735
00:55:21,387 --> 00:55:25,322
So they were originally
thought not to exist.
736
00:55:25,356 --> 00:55:28,463
In fact, one of the most
famous scientists of the day,
737
00:55:28,497 --> 00:55:31,155
Linus Pauling, you know,
once famously claimed
738
00:55:31,189 --> 00:55:35,262
there's no such thing as
quasicrystals, only quasi-scientists,
739
00:55:35,297 --> 00:55:40,060
making a, you know, a direct
jab at Daniel Shechtman,
740
00:55:40,095 --> 00:55:43,443
who is, of course, the scientist
that made this discovery
741
00:55:43,478 --> 00:55:46,688
and won the Nobel Prize for
the discovery of quasicrystals,
742
00:55:46,722 --> 00:55:51,900
Also, quasicrystals have very
amazing optical properties,
743
00:55:51,934 --> 00:55:55,386
which is one of the main
things that I took note of
744
00:55:55,421 --> 00:55:58,113
and started researching when I
first found out about them.
745
00:55:58,147 --> 00:56:02,669
For instance, a researcher from Princeton,
New Jersey, Eric Quinones
746
00:56:02,704 --> 00:56:05,120
showed that you could bend
fiber optic signals
747
00:56:05,154 --> 00:56:08,330
at 90-degree angles without
losing signal quality.
748
00:56:08,365 --> 00:56:09,814
So basically, you can basi...
749
00:56:09,849 --> 00:56:14,854
You can build photonic computers out of
quasicrystals and meta-materials
750
00:56:14,888 --> 00:56:19,686
and build wave-guides that
would use light in photonics,
751
00:56:19,721 --> 00:56:22,862
in a type of advanced circuitry.
752
00:56:22,896 --> 00:56:26,521
So that was what I first saw
and started learning about
753
00:56:26,555 --> 00:56:29,869
when I first researched
these things back in 2004
754
00:56:29,903 --> 00:56:33,459
and I immediately, you
know, realized that, you know,
755
00:56:33,493 --> 00:56:38,395
we're dealing with something
very close to alien technology.
756
00:56:38,429 --> 00:56:41,398
What I believe alien technology
would look like, you know,
757
00:56:41,432 --> 00:56:48,197
describe, as we think of it,
engineered down to the atomic level,
758
00:56:48,232 --> 00:56:52,685
WILLFRIED: A rotating, pulsating
red light in the middle.
759
00:56:53,755 --> 00:56:58,000
We also talk about an object,
that had vertical development,
760
00:56:58,035 --> 00:57:03,972
Those who could see it from the side,
saw a dome, dome on the top of it,
761
00:57:04,006 --> 00:57:06,526
And in these domes,
there are windows.
762
00:57:06,561 --> 00:57:11,220
My opinion, uh, it didn't
have any influence at all
763
00:57:11,255 --> 00:57:14,534
on all the witness reports,
which were done before.
764
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:18,814
So it has no influence, in
fact, on the Belgian wave.
765
00:57:18,849 --> 00:57:23,578
But it's very unfortunate that
we have shown this photograph
766
00:57:23,612 --> 00:57:27,444
as being the brand of
the Belgian wave
767
00:57:27,478 --> 00:57:33,657
of being the object that has
been operating above Belgium.
768
00:57:33,691 --> 00:57:38,316
RYS: So what kind of aircraft were
being developed in the late 1980s
769
00:57:38,351 --> 00:57:42,148
that could explain that Belgian
wave of UFO sightings?
770
00:57:42,182 --> 00:57:47,187
Because I've had a number of people that
have watched my videos on the TR-3B
771
00:57:47,222 --> 00:57:49,604
and came and said, "Listen,
I had a sighting.
772
00:57:49,638 --> 00:57:52,745
"I saw this craft, and there's
nothing else that looks like it
773
00:57:52,779 --> 00:57:55,782
"except this TR-3B thing that
you're talking about.
774
00:57:55,817 --> 00:57:58,820
"Nothing else that can
describe accurately what I saw."
775
00:57:59,372 --> 00:58:00,925
Um...
776
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,585
So there is a lot of research
that's being done in ufology,
777
00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:10,107
into what kind of craft were
being developed during that time.
778
00:58:10,141 --> 00:58:11,705
Could they explain this, or
was it, you know,
779
00:58:11,729 --> 00:58:16,216
a wave of visitors from outer
space that were responsible?
780
00:58:16,251 --> 00:58:19,496
Um, you know, what are the
origins of that craft
781
00:58:19,530 --> 00:58:22,188
that people were
seeing in those sightings?
782
00:58:22,222 --> 00:58:26,675
So we did look back to, you
know, Northrop-Grumman
783
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:31,128
and that 1991 Popular
Mechanics article on the TR-3A,
784
00:58:31,162 --> 00:58:34,787
because we have aTR-3A. It's a real...
Apparently there's blueprints on it.
785
00:58:34,821 --> 00:58:38,031
There's a whole, there's a
contractor, Northrop Grumman,
786
00:58:38,066 --> 00:58:40,275
that developed a TR-3A.
787
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:41,552
So that led us to thinking,
788
00:58:41,587 --> 00:58:44,693
"Oh, well, TR-3B has got to be
another Northrop Grumman craft"
789
00:58:44,728 --> 00:58:47,040
because, you know,
it's just one letter off.
790
00:58:47,075 --> 00:58:49,146
But then I talked to Ed
Fouche, and he said,
791
00:58:49,180 --> 00:58:53,564
no, he didn't think that Northrop
Grumman was the contractor,
792
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:56,118
that they had used the TR-3A
793
00:58:56,153 --> 00:58:59,156
and change the letter to
make it, you know, similar,
794
00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:01,848
so that it would
throw people off.
795
00:59:01,883 --> 00:59:06,750
You know, another layer here of
secrecy, to throw people off.
796
00:59:06,784 --> 00:59:11,306
So it's hard to say, we have never
found, you know, blueprints
797
00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:14,861
or, you know, a contractor or
anyone come forward
798
00:59:14,896 --> 00:59:18,140
that said they've worked on these
massive space platforms.
799
00:59:18,175 --> 00:59:21,385
Apparently these platforms
were developed
800
00:59:21,419 --> 00:59:23,490
for a secret space program,
801
00:59:23,525 --> 00:59:28,910
specifically, as you know,
transport vehicles to shuttle,
802
00:59:28,944 --> 00:59:31,844
you know, men and cargo
to and from space
803
00:59:32,879 --> 00:59:36,124
to secret space
platforms and locations.
804
00:59:36,158 --> 00:59:41,612
Of course, you know,
again, the evidence for this is
805
00:59:41,647 --> 00:59:44,891
- is where we we, um...
- TYLER: We're lacking.
806
00:59:44,926 --> 00:59:48,308
We're lacking a definitive
proof to show that, you know,
807
00:59:48,343 --> 00:59:50,172
this is what's really going on.
808
00:59:50,207 --> 00:59:54,418
But these are some of the stories
that, you know, have come out of this.
809
00:59:54,452 --> 00:59:56,800
Typically, aircraft
lettering is,
810
00:59:56,834 --> 00:59:59,699
you know, the letter stands
for what its purpose is.
811
00:59:59,734 --> 01:00:02,150
Like, F is for
fighter, B is bomber,
812
01:00:03,772 --> 01:00:10,089
So TR, Tactical Reconnaissance
would follow that, you know, nomenclature,
813
01:00:10,123 --> 01:00:14,196
Certainly, but again, this
is where Ed Fouche says
814
01:00:14,231 --> 01:00:17,337
that we step outside the normal
zone into the Twilight Zone.
815
01:00:17,372 --> 01:00:19,892
Things are a little
different in the black world.
816
01:00:19,926 --> 01:00:24,379
But again, this speculation
is just speculation
817
01:00:24,413 --> 01:00:28,866
because we don't have
military classifications.
818
01:00:28,901 --> 01:00:32,698
We have some... we know that,
you know, physicists were working
819
01:00:32,732 --> 01:00:36,667
on nuclear-powered aircraft
as early as the 1960s.
820
01:00:36,702 --> 01:00:40,084
In fact, Stan Friedman
apparently worked on
821
01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:44,226
on some of these nuclear-powered
aircraft as well.
822
01:00:44,261 --> 01:00:47,022
You know, famous UFO researcher
Stanton Friedman,
823
01:00:47,057 --> 01:00:48,413
which I thought was interesting.
824
01:00:48,437 --> 01:00:52,649
And I sent you that info on that
other nuclear-powered aircraft
825
01:00:52,683 --> 01:00:56,963
that they were thinking about and
conceptualizing back in the '70s.
826
01:00:56,998 --> 01:00:59,586
But of course, treaties outlawed
827
01:00:59,621 --> 01:01:02,659
the use of nuclear weapons in
space and on airplanes.
828
01:01:02,693 --> 01:01:08,078
So, um, you know, if research
continued with nuclear powered aircraft,
829
01:01:08,112 --> 01:01:10,494
they would have had to be
done in a complete black world
830
01:01:10,528 --> 01:01:13,048
where, well, it would never,
you know, see the light of day
831
01:01:13,083 --> 01:01:16,707
because that of course would
violate international treaties.
832
01:01:16,742 --> 01:01:21,263
And, you know, the TR-3B is
basically like an illegal craft,
833
01:01:21,298 --> 01:01:25,474
and if it does exist, or
ever did exist,
834
01:01:25,509 --> 01:01:28,408
then chances of it being
declassified are almost zero
835
01:01:28,443 --> 01:01:30,583
because it isn't, because
it violates
836
01:01:30,617 --> 01:01:35,415
you know, international
treaties for nukes and airplanes.
837
01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:37,694
So it's kind of like
this dilemma craft
838
01:01:37,728 --> 01:01:42,353
It's not like the SR-71
or the A-12 or the F-117,
839
01:01:42,388 --> 01:01:45,356
where, you know, after a couple
of years of being out there,
840
01:01:45,391 --> 01:01:47,945
it's going to turn from
a, you know,
841
01:01:47,980 --> 01:01:49,982
black world craft to, you know,
842
01:01:50,016 --> 01:01:52,674
where they have to admit
to it and show it off.
843
01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:54,607
I don't think we're ever
gonna get that day
844
01:01:54,641 --> 01:01:57,230
where they roll one of these
TR-3Bs out of the hangar
845
01:01:57,265 --> 01:01:59,761
and show it off to the public. I don't
think that that would ever happen
846
01:01:59,785 --> 01:02:01,131
even if it were the case.
847
01:02:12,625 --> 01:02:17,423
GOODDALL: The person who founded and
created the Lockheed Skunk works
848
01:02:17,457 --> 01:02:19,459
was Kelly Johnson.
849
01:02:19,494 --> 01:02:23,463
His right-hand man was
Ben R. Rich.
850
01:02:23,498 --> 01:02:27,640
Ben was an aeronautical
engineer. he was a thermodynamist.
851
01:02:28,814 --> 01:02:32,300
He's... I think he was
originally from England.
852
01:02:32,334 --> 01:02:35,234
Think I met him at a conference
853
01:02:35,268 --> 01:02:37,961
and talked to him and asked
him, "You know, could I call you?"
854
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,621
And he was, you know,
he was very obliging,
855
01:02:44,553 --> 01:02:46,141
And we just started
up a conversation.
856
01:02:46,176 --> 01:02:49,731
And it grew to the
point over 25 years,
857
01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:53,183
that we spoke
approximately once a quarter.
858
01:02:53,217 --> 01:02:56,703
If I didn't call
him, he called me.
859
01:02:56,738 --> 01:03:02,123
According to Ben Rich, we
have the ability today
860
01:03:03,883 --> 01:03:05,436
to take ET home.
861
01:03:05,471 --> 01:03:09,544
Which means we have the
hardware. We're flying the stuff.
862
01:03:09,578 --> 01:03:12,374
It's very possible some
of the UFOs that are seen
863
01:03:12,409 --> 01:03:14,342
are man-made.
864
01:03:14,376 --> 01:03:17,828
Now, John Andrews
in June of '86,
865
01:03:17,863 --> 01:03:19,865
John Andrews was with
Testor Corporation.
866
01:03:19,899 --> 01:03:22,005
They make model airplanes
and cars and stuff,
867
01:03:23,247 --> 01:03:24,973
And he was a pen-pal with Ben.
868
01:03:25,008 --> 01:03:27,873
Ben adored John
Andrews and he adored me
869
01:03:27,907 --> 01:03:31,186
because we had a passion
for what he had a passion for.
870
01:03:31,221 --> 01:03:33,810
And John wrote a letter
to Ben Rich,
871
01:03:33,844 --> 01:03:36,882
and he said, "Ben, I have to
ask you a question.
872
01:03:36,916 --> 01:03:39,091
"Do you believe in UFOs?"
873
01:03:39,125 --> 01:03:40,609
Now, there are two categories.
874
01:03:40,644 --> 01:03:42,957
Both man-made
and extraterrestrial.
875
01:03:44,475 --> 01:03:48,272
And Ben came back
on his own letterhead
876
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:53,139
as president of the
Lockheed Skunk Works.
877
01:03:53,174 --> 01:03:57,143
He said, "Both Kelly and I are firm
believers in both categories.
878
01:03:58,662 --> 01:04:02,666
"We refer to ours as Un-Funded
Opportunities"
879
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:04,875
and he underlines the U,
the F and the O.
880
01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:07,533
He said, "But beware,
there are people
881
01:04:07,567 --> 01:04:11,054
"who will lead you astray and
possibly do you harm."
882
01:04:11,088 --> 01:04:17,336
Ben told us that "we refer to
ours as unfunded opportunities."
883
01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:19,890
If you didn't fund it, if you
didn't have to pay for it,
884
01:04:19,925 --> 01:04:24,205
if it was given to you, or it
crashed and you recovered it,
885
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:26,586
that's an unfunded opportunity.
886
01:04:26,621 --> 01:04:30,797
And in 1996, it was a
graduate student
887
01:04:30,832 --> 01:04:35,561
gathering or convention of aeronautical
engineers from UCLA.
888
01:04:35,595 --> 01:04:38,495
And their keynote
speaker was Ben Rich,
889
01:04:38,529 --> 01:04:41,947
and Ben had been retired
as President of Skunk Works.
890
01:04:41,981 --> 01:04:44,121
And he's out there
talking about what he did
891
01:04:44,156 --> 01:04:47,124
for the 40 years, you know,
he worked with Kelly Johnson.
892
01:04:48,505 --> 01:04:50,058
And one of the
last things he said.
893
01:04:50,093 --> 01:04:53,855
And you can search it on
Google or Bing or whatever,
894
01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:56,202
it's, it's there.
895
01:04:56,237 --> 01:04:59,826
Ben Rich told this
audience in 1996,
896
01:05:01,449 --> 01:05:05,246
"We have the ability
to take ET home"
897
01:05:07,041 --> 01:05:09,975
But the government won't
declassify the information.
898
01:05:10,009 --> 01:05:12,046
When Ben Rich was
referring to the fact
899
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,497
that we had the
ability to take ET home,
900
01:05:15,532 --> 01:05:17,948
that means we can
travel across the universe.
901
01:05:20,433 --> 01:05:26,405
I believe he said it because we
have recovered crashed UFOs.
902
01:05:27,613 --> 01:05:32,100
We have been given UFOs,
903
01:05:32,135 --> 01:05:35,414
and we have found
abandoned UFOs.
904
01:05:35,448 --> 01:05:38,417
Now one question has
been raised repeatedly
905
01:05:38,451 --> 01:05:41,592
when you talk about
issues about disclosure,
906
01:05:41,627 --> 01:05:42,973
all right, UFO disclosure.
907
01:05:43,008 --> 01:05:47,426
And there's a very
significant argument
908
01:05:47,460 --> 01:05:54,467
that the admission of
something else out there
909
01:05:54,502 --> 01:05:57,712
can easily be used,
let's say, by the military
910
01:05:57,746 --> 01:06:01,612
to justify, you know,
further ballooning
911
01:06:01,647 --> 01:06:03,960
of the already
massive military budget.
912
01:06:05,064 --> 01:06:06,445
We hear this a lot,
913
01:06:06,479 --> 01:06:11,243
and some people will talk about
this in a totally pejorative way.
914
01:06:11,277 --> 01:06:14,556
They'll say, "Well, they're creating
an alien threat where there isn't one
915
01:06:14,591 --> 01:06:19,216
"just to scare the public and justify all
this extra money being spent
916
01:06:19,251 --> 01:06:21,011
"to either take your rights away
917
01:06:21,046 --> 01:06:23,600
"or to just spend a lot of
money on military."
918
01:06:25,326 --> 01:06:26,544
There's another way
to look at it,
919
01:06:26,568 --> 01:06:31,435
which is that they might
play it that way
920
01:06:31,470 --> 01:06:33,644
because there is a
genuine threat.
921
01:06:34,921 --> 01:06:37,372
Like, a lot of the
folks who complain
922
01:06:37,407 --> 01:06:39,892
about the possibility
of, like a false flag
923
01:06:39,926 --> 01:06:43,516
or some kind of deception
about an alien threat,
924
01:06:43,551 --> 01:06:45,173
they're working
off the assumption
925
01:06:45,208 --> 01:06:49,626
that the aliens are definitely
not afraid, or definitely beneficial.
926
01:06:49,660 --> 01:06:52,249
And, you know, where I
stand on that is,
927
01:06:52,284 --> 01:06:57,082
I think that's never been a
rock-solid assumption.
928
01:06:58,359 --> 01:07:00,257
There are people
who believe that.
929
01:07:00,292 --> 01:07:02,880
I've just never
been fully persuaded
930
01:07:02,915 --> 01:07:04,606
by the evidence
that that's true.
931
01:07:05,676 --> 01:07:07,851
My opinion is that,
932
01:07:07,885 --> 01:07:13,546
it's based on the behaviors
that we have recorded, okay...
933
01:07:13,581 --> 01:07:15,272
[CLEARS THROAT]
934
01:07:15,307 --> 01:07:18,724
is that I actually think that there are
multiple groups and there's more than one.
935
01:07:18,758 --> 01:07:22,452
And from the information
that we are getting,
936
01:07:22,486 --> 01:07:25,524
there's at least reason to
think that one of those groups
937
01:07:25,558 --> 01:07:28,044
does not have our
best interests at heart
938
01:07:28,078 --> 01:07:30,080
and may actually
be hostile to us.
939
01:07:30,115 --> 01:07:33,532
And you... I've heard this
again and again and again.
940
01:07:33,566 --> 01:07:36,017
And indeed, when you
look at the long history
941
01:07:36,052 --> 01:07:38,399
of military engagements
with these things,
942
01:07:39,676 --> 01:07:44,094
they're not usually
initiating overt hostilities,
943
01:07:44,129 --> 01:07:48,719
although there have been pilot
deaths in connection with UFOs.
944
01:07:48,754 --> 01:07:52,723
And some of the engagements do
actually seem like they're being hostile.
945
01:07:52,758 --> 01:07:59,730
But generally, uh, they're just being
provocative in one way or another.
946
01:07:59,765 --> 01:08:03,079
So, at the at the least, you can
say there's some kind of trouble
947
01:08:03,113 --> 01:08:06,841
out there in paradise, between
us and at least one group of them.
948
01:08:06,875 --> 01:08:10,155
And if you're a military
person, you know,
949
01:08:10,189 --> 01:08:15,021
look, your job in the military
is to defend your nation.
950
01:08:15,056 --> 01:08:17,023
That's your job.
951
01:08:17,058 --> 01:08:21,407
And if you've got even a potential
threat in these other things,
952
01:08:21,442 --> 01:08:23,927
you have to, by your duty,
953
01:08:24,997 --> 01:08:28,725
you have to recognize
that threat, and you have to
954
01:08:28,759 --> 01:08:30,554
at least have a plan
for dealing with it.
955
01:08:30,589 --> 01:08:32,211
That's just the reality.
956
01:08:32,246 --> 01:08:34,558
So does that mean they're
gonna go false-flagging us?
957
01:08:34,593 --> 01:08:37,251
Or they're gonna be
legit? Look, I don't know.
958
01:08:37,285 --> 01:08:38,805
I don't have every
answer here, either.
959
01:08:39,632 --> 01:08:43,843
But, uh, it's not illegitimate.
960
01:08:43,878 --> 01:08:47,985
At least, you know our
priority is, on the face of it,
961
01:08:48,020 --> 01:08:51,920
it's not illegitimate to at least
explore the possibility of threat.
962
01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:53,784
That's my position.
963
01:08:54,647 --> 01:08:58,237
TYLER: What attracted
you to physics?
964
01:08:58,272 --> 01:09:03,104
I started teaching, taught physics and
astronomy here at Nebraska, Omaha,
965
01:09:03,139 --> 01:09:04,519
for 34 years,
966
01:09:04,554 --> 01:09:09,628
And during that time, I
also taught for 17 summers,
967
01:09:09,662 --> 01:09:13,425
and for a number of
times during the year
968
01:09:13,459 --> 01:09:17,705
at Lawrence Livermore National
Laboratory in Livermore, California,
969
01:09:17,739 --> 01:09:22,468
I had a security clearance, and I
studied the effects of nuclear weapons.
970
01:09:22,503 --> 01:09:25,678
I studied electromagnetic
theory, and nuclear theory,
971
01:09:25,713 --> 01:09:29,199
a bunch of different things
and atmospheric physics.
972
01:09:29,234 --> 01:09:31,270
And I did that for 17 summers.
973
01:09:31,305 --> 01:09:34,204
That was a big
part of my research.
974
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:37,000
I also got a grant
to work for NASA.
975
01:09:37,034 --> 01:09:41,418
NARRATOR: STS-48,
September 13, 1991.
976
01:09:41,453 --> 01:09:44,939
It appears there is something coming
from the Earth's surface
977
01:09:44,973 --> 01:09:48,391
in response to an object
entering the atmosphere.
978
01:09:48,425 --> 01:09:51,670
Soon after this footage was
shot, Dr. Kasher wrote
979
01:09:51,704 --> 01:09:54,776
a full scientific analysis
of the events.
980
01:09:54,811 --> 01:09:58,953
He submitted his findings to
NASA and the public.
981
01:09:58,987 --> 01:10:00,506
I don't know what this thing is,
982
01:10:00,541 --> 01:10:02,853
but it's really a very
interesting object too.
983
01:10:18,179 --> 01:10:20,871
Depending on how far away
from the shuttle they were
984
01:10:20,906 --> 01:10:24,530
was an extraordinary thing.
985
01:10:24,565 --> 01:10:27,637
To the extent that if they were
ten miles or farther from the shuttle,
986
01:10:27,671 --> 01:10:30,260
they behaved in ways
that were vastly beyond
987
01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:31,813
anything that we
can do on the Earth.
988
01:10:31,848 --> 01:10:36,128
Four NASA employees were
given this to offer their opinion.
989
01:10:36,162 --> 01:10:39,511
They just watched the video.
They did no analysis of it,
990
01:10:39,545 --> 01:10:44,032
and what they came up with was reasonable,
that it had to be ice particles,
991
01:10:44,067 --> 01:10:45,551
and that's as far
as they took it.
992
01:10:45,586 --> 01:10:48,382
They did not say a single thing
about, there were two streaks
993
01:10:48,416 --> 01:10:52,282
that went up through there, like
you might expect from a missile.
994
01:10:52,317 --> 01:10:56,597
I was able to rule out at least five
times, five different proofs
995
01:10:56,631 --> 01:10:59,600
that they were
not ice particles.
996
01:10:59,634 --> 01:11:02,775
And if they weren't, the only
other viable option
997
01:11:02,810 --> 01:11:04,570
is some kind of spacecraft.
998
01:11:04,605 --> 01:11:06,538
And the way it behaved...
999
01:11:06,572 --> 01:11:09,886
Again, I can't prove how far
away it was from the shuttle.
1000
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,993
If it is a mile away,
that's unbelievably close.
1001
01:11:14,028 --> 01:11:15,271
It's dangerous.
1002
01:11:15,305 --> 01:11:19,516
If it's ten miles away, it
accelerated in a fashion
1003
01:11:19,551 --> 01:11:24,383
that was beyond anything that
humans could stand, 100Gs it would be,
1004
01:11:24,418 --> 01:11:27,524
which would, you know,
destroy a human being,
1005
01:11:27,559 --> 01:11:30,700
And then, if you start
going out beyond ten miles.
1006
01:11:30,734 --> 01:11:34,980
Then we're talking about quantum
leaps in technology beyond what we have.
1007
01:11:35,843 --> 01:11:40,330
And so, to me, the
logical conclusion is
1008
01:11:40,365 --> 01:11:43,506
that these were spacecraft
from somewhere else out in space
1009
01:11:43,540 --> 01:11:45,059
away from the shuttle.
1010
01:11:45,093 --> 01:11:49,408
And it's hard to explain those
two streaks that went through there,
1011
01:11:49,443 --> 01:11:51,859
unless it is in terms of...
1012
01:11:51,893 --> 01:11:54,827
One good explanation might
be that they were missiles,
1013
01:11:54,862 --> 01:11:58,624
that we might be firing at them.
And that's a scary thing too.
1014
01:11:58,659 --> 01:12:03,215
Dr. Jack Kasher is
another perfect example
1015
01:12:03,249 --> 01:12:07,633
of a NASA employee
blowing the whistle on UFOs.
1016
01:12:10,084 --> 01:12:13,156
NARRATOR: As we continue into
modern space exploration,
1017
01:12:13,190 --> 01:12:16,401
NASA became more sophisticated
in their approach
1018
01:12:16,435 --> 01:12:20,819
at hiding what they were recording,
above and beyond.
1019
01:12:20,853 --> 01:12:22,752
[MAN ON RADIO SPEAKING]
1020
01:12:26,238 --> 01:12:28,516
[WOMAN ON RADIO SPEAKING]
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