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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,070 --> 00:00:01,220 [Music] 2 00:00:01,220 --> 00:00:04,019 Can a weathered piece of metal 3 00:00:04,019 --> 00:00:06,740 change the history of a continent 4 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:11,639 when that was clear wow a direct hit what does 5 00:00:11,639 --> 00:00:14,340 a 3000 year old relic reveal about 6 00:00:14,340 --> 00:00:17,300 a lost civilization 7 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:19,920 the Discus of Festos is one of the 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,140 greatest mysteries of the Bronze Age and 9 00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:24,240 what secret does the most 10 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,359 coasted face hold of all time left 11 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:28,800 reading was so well known that you could 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,180 almost compare her with a kind of it girl, 13 00:00:30,180 --> 00:00:31,500 as if she 14 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:34,160 had lived. 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,020 Fascinating mysterious objects 16 00:00:39,020 --> 00:00:40,739 [music] 17 00:00:40,739 --> 00:00:43,980 long hidden in museums, laboratories and 18 00:00:43,980 --> 00:00:46,940 archives. 19 00:00:47,219 --> 00:00:49,140 Now we can use the most modern 20 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:53,300 technology to reveal their secrets 21 00:00:54,420 --> 00:00:56,879 You can recreate it, 22 00:00:56,879 --> 00:00:59,039 disassemble it 23 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:02,160 and enlarge it, 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,680 25 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:10,520 revealing forgotten, hidden and bizarre things. 26 00:01:10,860 --> 00:01:15,619 These are the strangest things in the world. 27 00:01:24,619 --> 00:01:27,780 In the State Museum of the US State of 28 00:01:27,780 --> 00:01:30,420 Maine in Augusta, a small piece of 29 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:32,040 metal is on display that 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,220 changed historiography 31 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:39,979 32 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:42,960 33 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:46,830 smallest detail of the coin from Maine 34 00:01:46,830 --> 00:01:49,020 [music] 35 00:01:49,020 --> 00:01:51,899 it measures almost 2 cm in diameter, is 36 00:01:51,899 --> 00:01:54,479 oxidized and worn and yet 37 00:01:54,479 --> 00:01:56,759 the so-called Main Penny is one of the 38 00:01:56,759 --> 00:01:59,759 most famous coins in the world 39 00:01:59,759 --> 00:02:02,460 because it is neither a penny nor does 40 00:02:02,460 --> 00:02:03,979 it come from Maine, there are 41 00:02:03,979 --> 00:02:06,299 hardly any visible traces on its 42 00:02:06,299 --> 00:02:09,080 surface reveal who made it 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,639 Vikings 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,000 a Viking artifact in North America 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,379 how did it get there and what does it mean 46 00:02:16,379 --> 00:02:19,440 that the find contradicts the findings of historiography at the time 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,220 48 00:02:21,220 --> 00:02:22,819 [music] 49 00:02:22,819 --> 00:02:24,720 US school children were taught that 50 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,720 Columbus discovered America how did 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,180 a Viking cathedral come to Maine is it 52 00:02:30,180 --> 00:02:32,160 real or just a well-made 53 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,840 forgery 54 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,120 new findings now provide the 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,540 answer 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,379 the story begins at nescake point 57 00:02:46,379 --> 00:02:49,019 a remote place on the coast of 58 00:02:49,019 --> 00:02:51,319 maine 59 00:02:52,459 --> 00:02:55,879 in the summer of 1957 the 60 00:02:55,879 --> 00:02:58,019 amateur archaeologist gai melgryn and 61 00:02:58,019 --> 00:02:59,519 a friend examined a 62 00:02:59,519 --> 00:03:02,360 pile of Native American rubbish there and 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,680 discovered numerous 64 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,900 finds The people left behind 1,000 years ago 65 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:09,900 66 00:03:10,819 --> 00:03:13,019 among the tools and 67 00:03:13,019 --> 00:03:15,180 bone remains was a single 68 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:18,560 eaten silver coin. 69 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:26,580 The indigenous peoples of North America 70 00:03:26,580 --> 00:03:30,360 did not use coins a thousand years ago, 71 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,560 so where did it come 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,000 from? I showed it to a friend who thought it was 73 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,680 an English coin from 74 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,480 the Middle Ages. Maybe it came with me After 75 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,659 the first settlers to New England, 76 00:03:42,659 --> 00:03:44,580 the coin remained in 77 00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:48,019 Melvin's private possession for almost two decades. It was not until 78 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:52,080 1974 that it was added to the museum's collection. 79 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,019 80 00:03:54,019 --> 00:03:56,879 A local newspaper published a short 81 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:59,700 article about the coin and suddenly 82 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:03,410 the strange object was on everyone's lips 83 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:08,940 [music] 84 00:04:08,940 --> 00:04:11,700 the English numismatist Peters CB 85 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:13,799 reads an article about it and realizes 86 00:04:13,799 --> 00:04:15,780 that it is a very rare 87 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:18,060 Viking coin from the time of Olaf the 88 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:19,279 Quiet. 89 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,919 The coin is an original. The 90 00:04:22,919 --> 00:04:25,400 matches are undeniable. 91 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,740 Experts date it to the year 1067. 92 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:32,120 What is historically significant is 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,620 a British penny on one 94 00:04:34,620 --> 00:04:36,060 Finding such a place wouldn't be 95 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:39,240 surprising but a coin from Olaf 96 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Köre the quiet wow suddenly we have 97 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,220 a Viking artifact in North America. 98 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:49,560 Somehow this tiny piece of 99 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,360 Viking history must 100 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,300 have crossed the Atlantic and ended up in 1000 year old 101 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:56,639 remains on the coast of Mowen 102 00:04:56,639 --> 00:05:01,340 Sensation 103 00:05:01,420 --> 00:05:03,380 [Music] 104 00:05:03,380 --> 00:05:05,340 US schoolchildren were taught that 105 00:05:05,340 --> 00:05:08,780 Columbus discovered America 106 00:05:09,740 --> 00:05:12,780 the idea that Vikings had 107 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:14,880 contact with the native Americans 500 years earlier 108 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,979 was a huge deal 109 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:23,520 a bold claim 110 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,680 but there is further evidence that 111 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,520 can support this thesis 112 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,280 for Scandinavia is the idea that 113 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,320 The Vikings were the first Europeans 114 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,259 to reach North America. The 115 00:05:40,259 --> 00:05:42,660 great Icelandic sagas tell of the 116 00:05:42,660 --> 00:05:46,310 legendary explorer live Ericsson 117 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:46,780 [applause] 118 00:05:46,780 --> 00:05:49,820 [music] 119 00:05:49,820 --> 00:05:52,560 live Ericsson had heard the story of a 120 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,479 sailor who deviated from his 121 00:05:54,479 --> 00:05:56,699 course in fog and found a forested coast west of Greenland 122 00:05:56,699 --> 00:05:58,919 123 00:05:58,919 --> 00:06:01,860 124 00:06:01,860 --> 00:06:03,780 125 00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:06,320 126 00:06:07,639 --> 00:06:10,979 Erikson reached a land that he 127 00:06:10,979 --> 00:06:14,300 bought land in Vienna. 128 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,280 Historians who read his description of this 129 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:19,740 land and its inhabitants came to the 130 00:06:19,740 --> 00:06:21,539 conclusion that the only place that 131 00:06:21,539 --> 00:06:23,340 would fit it was somewhere in 132 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:25,080 North America must most 133 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,700 likely be in Newfoundland 134 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:30,800 [music] it 135 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,080 means that the 136 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,000 Vikings landed in North America much earlier 137 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,039 than anyone else from 138 00:06:38,039 --> 00:06:40,400 Europe 139 00:06:45,180 --> 00:06:47,039 this amazing object is 140 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:49,560 actually proof of that 141 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,660 in any case it is not the first of 142 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:54,620 this kind 143 00:06:55,780 --> 00:06:58,870 [music] 144 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,940 in 1898 A rune stone was found in 145 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:05,539 Kensington. 146 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:08,819 The runes tell of Scandinavian 147 00:07:08,819 --> 00:07:12,720 explorers in 1362 who 148 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,319 encountered hostile inhabitants in Vienna. 149 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:18,300 This seems to more or less 150 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:21,660 coincide with the Icelandic sagas and there are 151 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:22,640 other finds 152 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,680 [music] 153 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,180 in Ontario Canada that were found 154 00:07:27,180 --> 00:07:29,120 Viking sword, an ax and a shield. 155 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,319 There are also a number of stone 156 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:33,180 inscriptions that were interpreted as Viking runes. 157 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:35,720 158 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,160 North America seems to be littered with evidence for the 159 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,300 Viking theory, 160 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:47,280 the problem is that none of these finds 161 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,699 were real. 162 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:54,000 The Kensington rune stone turned out 163 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,460 to be a fake. The axes and 164 00:07:56,460 --> 00:07:59,040 signs as well 165 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,300 [music] 166 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:01,819 why are there so many 167 00:08:01,819 --> 00:08:04,620 Viking fakes the rune stone from 168 00:08:04,620 --> 00:08:07,039 Kensington provides a clue 169 00:08:07,039 --> 00:08:09,419 the name of its supposed 170 00:08:09,419 --> 00:08:12,479 discoverer was Olaf oh man no 171 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:14,520 coincidence these objects were all discovered by 172 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,080 people of Scandinavian origin 173 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,419 and they fought 174 00:08:18,419 --> 00:08:20,350 against their bad image in the USA 175 00:08:20,350 --> 00:08:28,039 [Music] 176 00:08:28,039 --> 00:08:30,180 Scandinavian immigrants were 177 00:08:30,180 --> 00:08:33,839 often mocked and laughed at at the time, so 178 00:08:33,839 --> 00:08:35,940 these immigrants wanted to 179 00:08:35,940 --> 00:08:38,039 prove that it was not the Genoese 180 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:39,599 Columbus who had discovered the new world, 181 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:42,059 but rather the Scandinavian Eriksson, 182 00:08:42,059 --> 00:08:46,580 so they hoped to increase their reputation. 183 00:08:48,380 --> 00:08:50,940 All of this leads to the discovery 184 00:08:50,940 --> 00:08:53,040 of the coin Mains is viewed skeptically 185 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,380 186 00:08:54,380 --> 00:08:57,360 because its finder Melvin also had 187 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,950 Swedish roots 188 00:08:58,950 --> 00:09:00,140 [Music], 189 00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:03,420 so this strange artifact is just 190 00:09:03,420 --> 00:09:06,480 another forgery 191 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,459 [Music] What is 192 00:09:08,459 --> 00:09:10,920 undisputed is at least the origin 193 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,500 of the coin from Norway in the eleventh 194 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:15,800 century. 195 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,620 It was definitely from King Olaf the 196 00:09:19,620 --> 00:09:22,740 quiet but the great one The question is whether it 197 00:09:22,740 --> 00:09:24,899 really has an archaeological context 198 00:09:24,899 --> 00:09:25,580 199 00:09:25,580 --> 00:09:29,779 or, to put it another way, 200 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:36,180 even those of Swedish descent had 201 00:09:36,180 --> 00:09:37,920 both a motive and the 202 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,399 opportunity to place the coin, 203 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:42,899 but for such a hoax you need more 204 00:09:42,899 --> 00:09:45,959 gran of the right coin, which was 205 00:09:45,959 --> 00:09:50,060 not a problem at the end of the 1950s 206 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:53,700 Norway found more than 2000 207 00:09:53,700 --> 00:09:56,040 such coins, 208 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,360 so it wouldn't have been very difficult to get 209 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,760 210 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,680 one of these coins laid out. The 211 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:03,920 212 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:06,600 latest research believes that they have found an answer 213 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,519 to this question. 214 00:10:11,540 --> 00:10:13,980 The Swedish nomismatist Sven 215 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:16,500 Gülbeck took on the Herculean task of looking 216 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:19,260 at each and every one of 217 00:10:19,260 --> 00:10:23,120 Olaf's coin dogs Following the quiet night, 218 00:10:23,180 --> 00:10:26,760 we locate 2,300 coins and 219 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,160 check whether any of them could have ended up in Melgran's 220 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,860 hands - an enormous 221 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:34,200 hard work that lasted more than ten years. 222 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,080 223 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,820 After a thorough investigation, he came to 224 00:10:38,820 --> 00:10:40,680 the conclusion that none of the coins were 225 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:42,920 missing. In 226 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,600 addition, all of them These coins in 227 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,480 good condition are very different from the 228 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,899 Main Penny 229 00:10:50,899 --> 00:10:53,940 the Maine coin is heavily oxidized 230 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:56,220 and this is difficult to counterfeit 231 00:10:56,220 --> 00:10:58,200 this is a process that takes centuries 232 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,440 233 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,079 Museum performs a chemical analysis of the 234 00:11:04,079 --> 00:11:06,300 various metal layers and 235 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:08,399 concludes that the object 236 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:09,850 is genuine 237 00:11:09,850 --> 00:11:11,220 [music] 238 00:11:11,220 --> 00:11:13,980 as analysis showed that the coin 239 00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:16,620 was surrounded by water it lay 240 00:11:16,620 --> 00:11:19,500 in barely moving water for a long time which in 241 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:21,660 turn supports the thesis that it 242 00:11:21,660 --> 00:11:24,680 was buried for a very long time 243 00:11:25,019 --> 00:11:27,600 there is no doubt that the Main 244 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,260 Penny is genuine 245 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:34,380 the coin of mow not buried but then 246 00:11:34,380 --> 00:11:37,079 how did it 247 00:11:37,079 --> 00:11:40,760 end up in the hands of the natives a thousand years earlier? 248 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,200 In 1960, three years after the Main Penny was 249 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,120 found, the Norwegian 250 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,519 archaeologist of a servant inster and 251 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:55,560 her husband examined a site in Longs 252 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:57,680 in Newfoundland, 253 00:11:57,680 --> 00:12:00,440 which locals describe as an old 254 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,060 Indian settlement turns out 255 00:12:03,060 --> 00:12:06,320 to be something else 256 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:08,300 [music] 257 00:12:08,300 --> 00:12:11,820 they found remains of peat buildings a 258 00:12:11,820 --> 00:12:15,200 large hole and a blacksmith shop 259 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,540 also remains of a 260 00:12:17,540 --> 00:12:19,980 viking boat house that was 261 00:12:19,980 --> 00:12:22,740 definitive proof that the vikings 262 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:24,839 were the first europeans to come to america 263 00:12:24,839 --> 00:12:27,260 264 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,079 slender sagas are true so the 265 00:12:31,079 --> 00:12:34,079 vikings actually have 500 of america 266 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:37,940 Reached years before Columbus, 267 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,480 the news is a sensation but 268 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,639 it does not explain why the coin 269 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:48,500 was found almost 1200 km further south 270 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:51,779 because there is no evidence that the 271 00:12:51,779 --> 00:12:55,200 Vikings came so far south and how 272 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,330 did the coin get to Main 273 00:12:59,330 --> 00:13:07,100 [Music] 274 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:09,360 again professional excavations At 275 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,459 Nasciac Point, no other 276 00:13:11,459 --> 00:13:13,519 Nordic artifacts were unearthed. 277 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,920 What was found, however, were stone tools 278 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,079 and stone raw material from Labrador 279 00:13:19,079 --> 00:13:22,399 hundreds of kilometers further north, 280 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:25,079 so there is evidence that 281 00:13:25,079 --> 00:13:27,600 trade was carried out at that time, that goods and 282 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,220 people traveled greater distances, 283 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:34,079 so the coin could be together with 284 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:36,480 others Trade goods may have been slowly passed from hand to 285 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,279 hand further south. 286 00:13:38,279 --> 00:13:40,079 Perhaps it 287 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:42,060 took hundreds to bring them south from their 288 00:13:42,060 --> 00:13:44,339 place of origin in Labrador or even 289 00:13:44,339 --> 00:13:47,959 Newfoundland. 290 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:50,220 Although the coin 291 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:52,620 has no value for the indigenous peoples, one of 292 00:13:52,620 --> 00:13:54,240 its properties may explain 293 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,700 why and how it 294 00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:00,600 was transported south because when she finds it 295 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,760 has a hole 296 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:08,639 now am it has been perforated which 297 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:10,440 could be an indication that it was 298 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,440 used for decorative ticks 299 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,820 perhaps it was worn around the neck or 300 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:16,980 wrist or served as an 301 00:14:16,980 --> 00:14:19,560 ornament for another object We do 302 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,899 n't know, the important thing is that it 303 00:14:21,899 --> 00:14:23,579 was not used as a coin but 304 00:14:23,579 --> 00:14:27,300 as a prestige object. 305 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,260 Locals probably transported the 306 00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:36,540 coin from Newfoundland to Maine, 307 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:37,700 308 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:39,779 but this 309 00:14:39,779 --> 00:14:41,760 remarkable object was made on the other 310 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,699 side of the Atlantic 311 00:14:43,699 --> 00:14:47,100 like the finds in Longs and Medus 312 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:49,380 The coin proves that Columbus was not the first 313 00:14:49,380 --> 00:14:52,920 European in America. 314 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,740 The Vikings beat him by 500 years. 315 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,639 An unusually engraved clay disk 316 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:05,399 in a museum on Crete has been 317 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:08,100 puzzling experts for more than 100 years. 318 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:09,540 319 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:11,459 Some researchers consider your text to be 320 00:15:11,459 --> 00:15:14,279 highly significant, the 3000-year-old text 321 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:16,260 Embassy of a lost 322 00:15:16,260 --> 00:15:17,720 civilization 323 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,959 others doubt its authenticity 324 00:15:21,959 --> 00:15:24,240 we take a closer look at it using modern imaging technology 325 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,199 326 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:30,360 the Festers disc is about two 327 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,000 centimeters thick, 16 centimeters in 328 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,339 diameter and is made of fired 329 00:15:35,339 --> 00:15:37,519 clay 330 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,600 both sides are covered with 331 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,880 inscriptions made using a technique 332 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,500 that was unique to their time Far ahead was a 333 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:48,540 unique object. 334 00:15:48,540 --> 00:15:50,940 It is the only known object 335 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:53,940 of its kind. It contains 242 336 00:15:53,940 --> 00:15:57,300 strange symbols. Heads with Iroquois hairstyles 337 00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:00,120 338 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,660 339 00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:05,760 340 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,620 341 00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:08,490 decipher 342 00:16:08,490 --> 00:16:11,519 [Music] 343 00:16:11,820 --> 00:16:13,500 but now after more than a 344 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:15,360 century, the latest 345 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,279 research results could show a solution, 346 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:19,880 347 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:23,040 interpret these bizarre symbols, what 348 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,100 function did the disc have and is it 349 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:26,930 even real 350 00:16:26,930 --> 00:16:30,520 [Music] 351 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,560 [Music] 352 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,899 the mystery of the Discus of Festos 353 00:16:36,899 --> 00:16:41,000 begins on the Greek island of Crete, 354 00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:45,720 lived here According to legend, the legendary people of 355 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,579 the Menorah once had 356 00:16:47,579 --> 00:16:50,160 their ruler King Minos 357 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,259 358 00:16:52,259 --> 00:16:54,800 build a labyrinth under his palace by keeping a 359 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,180 fearsome creature captive: 360 00:16:57,180 --> 00:17:00,199 the Minotaur. 361 00:17:00,199 --> 00:17:03,360 According to legend, the Minotaur was a 362 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,520 terrible hybrid creature, half human and 363 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,559 half bull. Human sacrifices 364 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:10,339 were made to both 365 00:17:10,339 --> 00:17:13,439 and the minors have a firm place 366 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:16,160 in Greek mythology. 367 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,780 Many thought the stories of the minors were 368 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:22,619 just an invention, but in 1900 369 00:17:22,619 --> 00:17:24,839 the British archaeologist Ava 370 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:27,240 Events made a groundbreaking discovery on the north coast of Crete. 371 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,559 372 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:34,200 He came across the ruins of a 4,000-year- 373 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,280 old Minoan palace. 374 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,559 It was one archaeological sensation the 375 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:42,660 first proof that Noah really 376 00:17:42,660 --> 00:17:44,840 gave me 377 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,100 I will tell you the 378 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:48,960 understanding of the Mediterranean cultures and 379 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,020 their abilities also changed 380 00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:53,880 The Palace of Knossos has 381 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,799 amazing parallels to the old 382 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:57,740 legends 383 00:17:57,740 --> 00:18:01,500 When the excavations in Knossos began, 384 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:04,380 many bull symbols were noticed in it It 385 00:18:04,380 --> 00:18:05,880 became clear to him that this place has a 386 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,799 connection to the Minoan legends. 387 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:09,980 388 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,020 This ancient culture, known until then, 389 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:15,740 is highly developed like its time, 390 00:18:15,740 --> 00:18:18,840 it reaches its zenith when most 391 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,660 cultures in Europe achieve less 392 00:18:21,660 --> 00:18:24,560 than wooden houses and stone circles 393 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,179 [music] 394 00:18:26,179 --> 00:18:28,980 the Greeks are considered the founders of 395 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:31,280 European civilization 396 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,880 but the menorah was there before them 397 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,260 Knossos was probably the first city 398 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:40,200 in Europe the first example of urban 399 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,600 life with a pioneering role in many 400 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,720 respects 401 00:18:45,140 --> 00:18:48,559 but there are even more finds 402 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:51,419 In 1908 the Italian archaeologist 403 00:18:51,419 --> 00:18:54,000 Luigi Pernier found a second 404 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,100 monological palace in the south of the Island 405 00:18:56,100 --> 00:19:00,480 free His name is Festus One evening, 406 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,700 Pernier's foreman comes across 407 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,860 a small clay disk in the ruins. 408 00:19:04,860 --> 00:19:06,960 The strange symbols on its 409 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,179 surface are comparable to nothing 410 00:19:09,179 --> 00:19:12,900 Pernier has ever seen. The find 411 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:16,280 raises many questions. 412 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:20,760 Usually such 413 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,500 writing tablets were made from wet life 414 00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:24,480 when they were still soft goods 415 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,460 could be written on it and 416 00:19:26,460 --> 00:19:29,480 left to dry in the sun 417 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:35,520 it was burned in a fire and not 418 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,120 dried in the sun 419 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:40,980 it is the only 420 00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:43,679 Minoan clay tablet fired in a kiln that has 421 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:45,780 ever been found 422 00:19:45,780 --> 00:19:48,120 but even more remarkable are the 423 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,580 symbols on the disk as are most of the 424 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:52,559 writings of this time were carved in fiefs 425 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:55,320 but the symbols on the disc 426 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,200 are stamped 427 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,480 that the symbols were applied with a stamp 428 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,460 was a unique 429 00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:03,860 discovery. 430 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:06,299 Some archaeologists consider the discourse 431 00:20:06,299 --> 00:20:07,919 to be the oldest written story 432 00:20:07,919 --> 00:20:09,660 and the first evidence of a type of 433 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:11,880 printing press 434 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,039 in all of antiquity. There is nothing 435 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:16,620 comparable 436 00:20:16,620 --> 00:20:19,020 Kevin when you look at the work 437 00:20:19,020 --> 00:20:20,940 there is the fact that it 438 00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:23,340 was fired all of that suggests that 439 00:20:23,340 --> 00:20:25,080 it was a special object that 440 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,460 was treated with great care 441 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,220 what could justify such an effort 442 00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:34,679 the answer 443 00:20:34,679 --> 00:20:39,020 perhaps lies in the cryptic symbols 444 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,860 [music] 445 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:45,240 for more For more than a hundred years people have been trying 446 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,280 to find out what the symbols 447 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,460 mean, is it a language, a kind of 448 00:20:50,460 --> 00:20:53,120 symbology or something else? 449 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:55,740 Researchers from all disciplines, 450 00:20:55,740 --> 00:20:57,919 cryptanalysts, linguists, 451 00:20:57,919 --> 00:20:59,880 antiquarians, archaeologists 452 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,299 or historians. Almost everyone who is 453 00:21:03,299 --> 00:21:05,400 familiar with antiquity or sign systems 454 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,200 has tried to decipher the Discos 455 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,500 456 00:21:10,820 --> 00:21:13,740 There were many interpretations, for example it could 457 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:15,539 be an ancient game, a 458 00:21:15,539 --> 00:21:17,940 type of backgammon, others suspected an 459 00:21:17,940 --> 00:21:19,500 astronomical or astrological 460 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:20,360 background, 461 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:23,160 but one theory is receiving 462 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,880 more attention from experts than any other. 463 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,440 It is probably a 464 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,600 type of language, perhaps a locally 465 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,220 limited one, perhaps also one that is 466 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:34,380 more widespread These signs 467 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:36,240 should be read or presented to an audience, 468 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,100 469 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:40,140 but experts don't 470 00:21:40,140 --> 00:21:42,240 even agree on where to start reading 471 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,520 472 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,740 473 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:49,380 474 00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:51,299 475 00:21:51,299 --> 00:21:53,520 476 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,760 477 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,440 478 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,600 Symbols are noticeable that they become increasingly 479 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,059 dense the closer they get to the center of 480 00:22:03,059 --> 00:22:05,000 the disc. 481 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,200 Today it is likely 482 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,480 that you have to start reading at the outer edge, 483 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,080 484 00:22:12,740 --> 00:22:17,220 but what do the characters mean? 485 00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:20,039 The 242 stamp impressions on the disc 486 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:22,559 consist of 45 different 487 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,080 symbols, 488 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,539 most of them Alphabets have far fewer 489 00:22:27,539 --> 00:22:30,720 symbols. Experts therefore consider an alphabet to be 490 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,100 unlikely. 491 00:22:35,159 --> 00:22:37,799 On the other hand, there are too few symbols 492 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,320 and too many repetitions to 493 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,840 assume that pictograms 494 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,240 can represent entire words, as with 495 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Egyptian hieroglyphs or 496 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,400 Babylonian cuneiform. 497 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,620 Instead, experts suspect that the 498 00:22:52,620 --> 00:22:55,140 fixed symbols are a type of syllabary 499 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:57,799 where symbols stand for syllables 500 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:01,679 such as do re mi 501 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:03,780 syllabic script would fit well with the number 502 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:06,659 of symbols on the disc and 503 00:23:06,659 --> 00:23:09,179 504 00:23:09,179 --> 00:23:11,720 it was also used in another minute text 505 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,440 but even if the experts 506 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,000 agree that it 507 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,220 is a syllabic script we still do 508 00:23:17,220 --> 00:23:20,159 n't know what As far as 509 00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:22,620 the translation is concerned, it means that you would need 510 00:23:22,620 --> 00:23:25,220 a kind of Rosetta stone for it. 511 00:23:25,220 --> 00:23:27,419 The Rosetta Stone is an 512 00:23:27,419 --> 00:23:30,720 inscribed stele that 513 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,740 was discovered in Egypt by Napoleon's soldiers in 1799. 514 00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:36,299 Thanks to the trilingual inscription on the 515 00:23:36,299 --> 00:23:38,340 Rosetta Stone, we were able to numerate hieroglyphs for the first time. 516 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:40,980 It contains 517 00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:43,200 the same text once in hieroglyphs 518 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,020 once became fashionable in ancient Greek 519 00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:48,200 script, which made it a kind of 520 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,179 translation key, but 521 00:23:51,179 --> 00:23:53,640 there is no such translation aid for the discourse of Festus 522 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,039 523 00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:58,200 and despite many attempts, 524 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,980 no one has succeeded in translating it to date. 525 00:24:00,980 --> 00:24:03,600 After years of research, the 526 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,960 British denguist Gareth now believes the puzzle has 527 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,360 been solved to have, at least in part, 528 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:14,000 we went looking for a 529 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,380 parallel text to a text with a 530 00:24:16,380 --> 00:24:18,480 similar function or similar 531 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,080 typography. 532 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,820 This is a common method that one 533 00:24:23,820 --> 00:24:25,679 534 00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:28,460 looks for comparable examples in other places and 535 00:24:28,460 --> 00:24:31,320 compares the sequence of characters 536 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,480 with symbols in others Minoan 537 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,960 religious artifacts he discovers 538 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,760 recurring patterns on the disk 539 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,400 that are repeated three times like another woman 540 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,400 they resemble an ancient 541 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,159 critical symbol that means mother goddess 542 00:24:47,159 --> 00:24:50,100 his theory is that the 543 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:52,799 disk is dedicated to that same mother goddess 544 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,440 this matches what we 545 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,539 know so far the mother goddess had 546 00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:59,400 an important place in Minoan 547 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,740 society a prayer in their honor 548 00:25:01,740 --> 00:25:03,620 seems logical 549 00:25:03,620 --> 00:25:06,179 we see repetitions on the disk 550 00:25:06,179 --> 00:25:08,820 similar to the prayer and the 551 00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:10,380 fact that the disk was burned 552 00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:12,360 testifies that it was an object of 553 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:15,059 great value a religious origin 554 00:25:15,059 --> 00:25:16,980 would make sense 555 00:25:16,980 --> 00:25:19,200 The problem, however, is that so far 556 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,780 no remotely 557 00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:23,159 comparable object 558 00:25:23,159 --> 00:25:26,100 has been found again, the strange symbols, the 559 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,500 use of stamps 1000 years before 560 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:30,779 their actual discovery and the 561 00:25:30,779 --> 00:25:33,720 fact that this is the only burned 562 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,140 tablet of the minor, all of which justify 563 00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:38,720 the special status of the disc 564 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,740 is correspondingly controversial This 565 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:44,960 ancient artifact among archaeologists 566 00:25:45,059 --> 00:25:48,360 the uniqueness of this object 567 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,039 568 00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:53,059 raises alarm bells, as is often the case in such cases, 569 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:56,279 one would actually expect that there are 570 00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:59,340 other such objects such 571 00:25:59,340 --> 00:26:00,980 stamps were certainly used more often and 572 00:26:00,980 --> 00:26:04,020 clay is a very long-lasting 573 00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,539 material so there should be 574 00:26:06,539 --> 00:26:09,740 several such discs today It 575 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:12,740 is also difficult to determine 576 00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:15,539 the age of the disc. The age of the disc has never been directly 577 00:26:15,539 --> 00:26:18,419 determined, but it was found next to 578 00:26:18,419 --> 00:26:21,600 a tray from the period 1700 to 579 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,080 1600 BC. 580 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,640 Archaeologists believe that it 581 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,159 is just as old, but the unusual 582 00:26:29,159 --> 00:26:31,440 circumstances of its discovery cause 583 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,460 further uncertainty 584 00:26:34,460 --> 00:26:36,779 was not found by a professional 585 00:26:36,779 --> 00:26:39,659 archaeologist, a foreman 586 00:26:39,659 --> 00:26:41,580 discovered it on the excavation site 587 00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:44,059 of Festos when he was doing his rounds, 588 00:26:44,059 --> 00:26:47,220 so is the disc real or a 589 00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:48,260 fake, 590 00:26:48,260 --> 00:26:51,000 one person in particular is suspected of 591 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,659 having a motive for it, the 592 00:26:53,659 --> 00:26:56,039 excavation manager of Festos Luigi 593 00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:58,460 pernier made 594 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,200 the discovery the after Evans and 595 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,460 Knossos made it sensational - 596 00:27:04,460 --> 00:27:06,960 he had discovered the presumed throne of 597 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,279 King Minus - 598 00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:13,860 a rather modest palace that, until 599 00:27:13,860 --> 00:27:15,779 the disc was found, had no real sensation in 600 00:27:15,779 --> 00:27:18,360 store for the media or would have 601 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,640 brought fame to the name Luigi Pernier - 602 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,820 603 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,159 all that changes are the discovery of the Discos 604 00:27:31,159 --> 00:27:34,440 Suddenly everyone in the professional world is 605 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,799 familiar with it, but there are other 606 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,220 suspicions against Pernier. What is 607 00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:43,020 particularly worrying is that Pernier was 608 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:44,640 also responsible for the collection of antiquities in the 609 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,380 National Archaeological Museum of 610 00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:49,080 Florence. 611 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,020 In one of the collections there was a 612 00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:53,400 remarkable Etruscan lead plate, 613 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,419 also known as the Discos of Mariano 614 00:27:57,419 --> 00:27:59,580 Disc is round has a series of 615 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:01,860 engraved symbols arranged in a spiral shape 616 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:04,260 and overall looks surprisingly similar to the Discos of 617 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:07,679 Festos, which 618 00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:08,840 means 619 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,360 Daniel has a motive and ways and means 620 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,659 to create such a fake 621 00:28:14,659 --> 00:28:17,100 case solved 622 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:20,480 it's not that easy 623 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,640 [music] 624 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,400 decades after sign 625 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,600 another relic turns up In 626 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,020 1934 an ax was found and this bronze 627 00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:36,179 ax like it actually has almost the same 628 00:28:36,179 --> 00:28:39,120 symbols as those on the disk it 629 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,679 is known as the ax of arkalochori 630 00:28:42,679 --> 00:28:44,840 in the middle are 631 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,779 engraved various unusual symbols 632 00:28:47,779 --> 00:28:50,520 some are the characters on the Discourse 633 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880 from Festos surprisingly similar 634 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,240 a plant a tea shape a y-shaped 635 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720 stick and above all a man with a 636 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,520 spiky hairstyle 637 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,200 that suggests that the disc 638 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,779 is real that the symbols used on it 639 00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:08,460 640 00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:12,140 had a certain distribution in this region at a certain time 641 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,000 the question is how could it Pernier if he 642 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,279 had falsified the discourse by 643 00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:22,260 creating symbols that had not yet 644 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,080 been officially described, that could speak for the 645 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,840 authenticity of the disc. On the 646 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,520 other hand, he was someone who was 647 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,320 very familiar with critical archeology 648 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,659 and 649 00:29:33,659 --> 00:29:35,520 had perhaps discovered some of the symbols on objects 650 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,039 that had never been discovered were cataloged both 651 00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:40,380 are possible 652 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:43,220 is the disc a fake or not 653 00:29:43,220 --> 00:29:46,080 I think it is real the fact that 654 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,059 the ax was only discovered after the discourse 655 00:29:48,059 --> 00:29:50,100 the great similarity of the symbols 656 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,960 and also that they were not known before 657 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,179 are indicators that speak for its 658 00:29:54,179 --> 00:29:56,779 authenticity 659 00:30:00,059 --> 00:30:02,460 You know, the Festos discourse is 660 00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:04,799 one of those rare, enigmatic 661 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:06,899 objects where it's difficult to 662 00:30:06,899 --> 00:30:10,279 form a final judgment. 663 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,220 It often seems to me that we 664 00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:16,919 call things fake just because we 665 00:30:16,919 --> 00:30:18,960 simply don't know what they were used for. 666 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,080 667 00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:24,539 I don't see any clear evidence for 668 00:30:24,539 --> 00:30:26,720 a fake 669 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,520 and I would like it to be real 670 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,700 671 00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:34,500 the controversy over the authenticity of the 672 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,559 disc has been going on for over 100 years and 673 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:39,840 it doesn't look like it will end any time soon 674 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,740 675 00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:46,359 [Music] 676 00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:53,220 the death mask of a drowned girl comes from Paris 677 00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:56,940 This means that no 678 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:59,159 face has been kissed more often than 679 00:30:59,159 --> 00:31:00,500 this one. Poets, poets, 680 00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,720 dancers, all 681 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,980 sorts of artists 682 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:06,659 have referred to her and have 683 00:31:06,659 --> 00:31:09,179 684 00:31:09,179 --> 00:31:11,880 received suggestions from her that, of course, 685 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,100 came from themselves. 686 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,960 It is said that she saved more than 2 687 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,960 million people's lives using 688 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,700 digital image technology the 689 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:24,500 mysterious mask brings back to life 690 00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:28,860 every special feature immortalized in plaster 691 00:31:28,860 --> 00:31:31,620 every detail the serene expression 692 00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:34,080 the gently closed eyes and the 693 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,580 enigmatic smile 694 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,500 the mask can be found again and again in 695 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,840 exhibitions and private collections in 696 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,320 a world 697 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,100 but the woman behind it remains a mystery 698 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:53,580 who she is how did she die and why is 699 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:55,080 she so famous 700 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,380 [music] 701 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,240 her macabre story begins in Paris at 702 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,940 the end of the 19th century the 703 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:09,299 city is a paradise for tourists you 704 00:32:09,299 --> 00:32:12,480 can climb the 422 steps of the towers of Notre 705 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,299 Dame, stroll through the galleries 706 00:32:15,299 --> 00:32:17,640 of the Lupe or the 707 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,539 impressive Arc de Triomphe Admire 708 00:32:21,539 --> 00:32:23,520 perhaps the biggest attraction 709 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,220 is the city's morgue. 710 00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:30,419 The corpses couldn't 711 00:32:30,419 --> 00:32:32,700 be identified well, so I 712 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:34,380 had long queues there as 713 00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:36,419 people enjoyed it, 714 00:32:36,419 --> 00:32:38,159 so to speak, or at least 715 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:40,140 thought it was a thrill to go there 716 00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:42,120 and supposedly help out 717 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,080 There were real 718 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,820 street vendors on the street who sold things, 719 00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:46,620 as is still the case today, 720 00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:48,840 and the corpses were actually 721 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,520 already in a bad condition and 722 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,620 during this exhibition, especially in the 723 00:32:52,620 --> 00:32:54,600 summer, the 724 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,279 condition naturally decomposed even further 725 00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:57,960 deteriorated but that did 726 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,059 n't stop people 727 00:33:00,059 --> 00:33:02,460 actually this is the place where the 728 00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:05,220 bodies are supposed to be identified but for 729 00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:07,140 many it has long since 730 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:10,039 become a morbid pleasure 731 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,659 these are already events in the middle of 732 00:33:12,659 --> 00:33:13,399 Paris, 733 00:33:13,399 --> 00:33:16,260 entry is free because they want 734 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:17,580 everyone to come to see them To identify the dead, 735 00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:18,980 736 00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:21,419 naked dead people lying in front of you, 737 00:33:21,419 --> 00:33:24,240 you have to imagine the social dynamics 738 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,120 of such a situation, the 739 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,440 pleasant horror of the people 740 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,740 in this 741 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:38,039 face appears one day at the 742 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,440 end of the 19th century, some of which are 743 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,480 not exactly known, so 744 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,000 these should be incognito de la San the drowned 745 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,380 woman was taken out of the sand from the river 746 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:48,720 but since no one 747 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,279 knew the woman and no one 748 00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,679 wanted to bury her, she was then taken to 749 00:33:52,679 --> 00:33:54,299 what would today be an institute for forensic medicine. 750 00:33:54,299 --> 00:33:57,659 Her flawless skin suggests 751 00:33:57,659 --> 00:34:00,019 that she is no older than 16 752 00:34:00,019 --> 00:34:02,820 according to her haircut she is of simple 753 00:34:02,820 --> 00:34:04,860 origin 754 00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:07,440 although she is made public 755 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,859 no one identifies her 756 00:34:10,859 --> 00:34:13,980 but someone takes care of her 757 00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:15,480 someone found this 758 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,040 peaceful facial expression so 759 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,780 interesting that the person decided to 760 00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:21,418 make a death mask out of it which of course 761 00:34:21,418 --> 00:34:23,159 made this possible 762 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,679 many, many times, so 763 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:26,699 that there were a lot of 764 00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:28,918 facial prints. 765 00:34:28,918 --> 00:34:31,619 Photography was invented. It wasn't 766 00:34:31,619 --> 00:34:33,599 unusual for people to 767 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,599 take plaster casts in corpse halls. If a 768 00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:38,399 face falls apart too much, it can no longer be 769 00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:41,879 identified, but why is 770 00:34:41,879 --> 00:34:46,220 this death mask in particular so famous 771 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,580 [applause ] 772 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:53,399 Making plaster masks of corpses may seem more 773 00:34:53,399 --> 00:34:55,320 inappropriate from today's perspective, 774 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,280 but that wasn't always the case 775 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,400 in ancient Rome. This practice was known 2000 years ago. 776 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,000 777 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,920 The Greek historian Polibius 778 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,960 wrote a text in the second century 779 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,780 BC about the Imagines 780 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:15,780 majorum wax masks that the Romans made from 781 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,599 the 782 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:20,060 These masks were worn by dead people in 783 00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:21,720 funeral processions to 784 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,140 keep the memory alive 785 00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:27,180 not only of the person who 786 00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:31,520 was buried but of the whole family. 787 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:36,119 Somehow exciting but also a 788 00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,820 little scary. 789 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:42,119 The young woman is never identified, 790 00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:45,359 no relatives come forward, but her 791 00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:48,540 face is Immortal It is not 792 00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:51,060 the first death mask to cause a stir, 793 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:53,540 794 00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:56,880 but the other masks come 795 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,660 from famous men 796 00:35:59,660 --> 00:36:02,339 who overthrew the British monarchy in the 17th century, 797 00:36:02,339 --> 00:36:05,280 Ludwig van Beethoven, 798 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440 one of the most important composers in 799 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,980 music history, 800 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,540 Sir Isaac Newton, the discoverer of 801 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:13,640 gravity, 802 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,720 outstanding historical figures, 803 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,619 all of them 804 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,119 the most famous death mask of all is 805 00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:27,540 almost 3,500 years old and belongs to the ancient 806 00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:31,859 Egyptian pharaoh Tutankhamun 807 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,720 the ancient Egyptians believed that the bar 808 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,000 so part of the soul 809 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,480 can live on after death 810 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,990 is a really good example of this 811 00:36:57,990 --> 00:37:00,359 [music] 812 00:37:00,359 --> 00:37:02,339 but this young girl is not a 813 00:37:02,339 --> 00:37:04,859 queen she is not one Artist 814 00:37:04,859 --> 00:37:07,320 and has not made any groundbreaking inventions 815 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,119 816 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,820 she is the opposite of that completely 817 00:37:11,820 --> 00:37:15,300 unknown why is her death mask 818 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:18,260 so famous then 819 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,599 perhaps she was simply in the right 820 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,940 place at the right time during the 821 00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:25,980 Victorian era 822 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:28,460 in Europe people were very concerned with death 823 00:37:28,460 --> 00:37:30,900 symbols of earthly transience 824 00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:34,200 called memento Mori Teutons the 825 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,840 living of their own mortality 826 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,820 [music] 827 00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:40,980 was a completely normal way of 828 00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:43,800 dealing with death, people keep it hanging 829 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,359 in their houses as a matter of course to 830 00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:47,460 831 00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:51,200 remember the gift of life and its shortness, 832 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,320 just as we do today the photograph of one 833 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,660 To keep the deceased, people had 834 00:37:57,660 --> 00:37:59,400 the death mask of their 835 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,220 deceased child at home at the time. 836 00:38:01,220 --> 00:38:04,020 The death mask of the drowned girl 837 00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:06,480 finds enormous resonance in this culture of death. 838 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,119 It brings it to some fame as 839 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:12,359 longkonyu de la San, the unknown woman from 840 00:38:12,359 --> 00:38:15,020 the lakes. 841 00:38:15,020 --> 00:38:17,700 At the beginning of the 20th century, this 842 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:20,339 mask was the one left tired de la sen relatively 843 00:38:20,339 --> 00:38:22,380 widespread, they hung it on the 844 00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:23,460 wall, it was just a 845 00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:25,500 death mask and people who perceived themselves as 846 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,900 sensitive or interested in art 847 00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:29,520 848 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,560 simply hung it there and 849 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,660 enjoyed the fact that they had this 850 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:35,820 Her face could be seen there, 851 00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:37,980 thousands of copies of her death mask were 852 00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:40,320 made. Her enigmatic face 853 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,700 inspired the imagination of 854 00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:44,400 writers and poets. The 855 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,220 French philosopher compared her 856 00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:50,900 smile to that of the Mona Lisa. She 857 00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,339 was so well known that she 858 00:38:53,339 --> 00:38:55,020 could almost be compared to a kind of girl, as 859 00:38:55,020 --> 00:38:57,560 if she were Poets, 860 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,180 poets, dancers, all sorts of 861 00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:01,380 artists 862 00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:03,180 referred to her and 863 00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:06,359 received suggestions from her, which of course 864 00:39:06,359 --> 00:39:08,460 865 00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:10,640 came from themselves, but 866 00:39:10,859 --> 00:39:13,500 how does a dead it girl become one of the 867 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:18,140 most kissed faces in the world 868 00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:21,780 [music]. 869 00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:23,760 The answer to this is provided by a technique that 870 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,430 saves lives 871 00:39:26,430 --> 00:39:28,920 [music] 872 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960 when the body of the unknown person 873 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,400 is pulled out of the lake, 874 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,380 resuscitation is still in its infancy 875 00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:38,480 and its methods seem more like Zara, 876 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,560 they tried many different 877 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,540 stimulating techniques to 878 00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:44,660 bring people back to life 879 00:39:44,660 --> 00:39:47,579 was to whip them with nettle leaves 880 00:39:47,579 --> 00:39:49,680 to get the blood flowing in the body 881 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,540 again and to 882 00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:54,619 start the engine again. 883 00:39:54,619 --> 00:39:57,960 In the 18th and 19th centuries people began to 884 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,880 test whether people 885 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,560 could be brought back to life if 886 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,420 they were not completely dead. That sounds crazier 887 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:05,160 As it will sound like now, 888 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,839 for example, 889 00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:08,339 hot ashes were placed on people, 890 00:40:08,339 --> 00:40:11,220 they were hung over a horse so 891 00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:13,140 that they were moved, they were 892 00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:15,300 whipped with nettles. That 893 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:17,220 sounds very strange, as I said, 894 00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:19,200 but they were actually good methods 895 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,000 Because these strong sensory stimuli can 896 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,740 really cause you to wake up 897 00:40:22,740 --> 00:40:24,000 again and then not be buried as if 898 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,560 you were dead or as if you were dead. 899 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,900 Another method is 900 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:30,599 really ready. A method that 901 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:32,160 sounds a bit strange but 902 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,900 is actually very good was 903 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,960 blowing in tobacco into the rectum of a 904 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,060 person who it was thought might 905 00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:40,800 still be alive or 906 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,240 that they might be able to be brought back to life, they would 907 00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:48,119 introduce a strong tobacco mixture and insert 908 00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:50,640 it into the other end, hoping that this 909 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,859 910 00:40:52,859 --> 00:40:54,720 911 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,740 would stimulate the organism and bring the body back to life 912 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,260 It may not be surprising that none of 913 00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:04,520 these methods lead to success, 914 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,540 but what does this face have to do with it 915 00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:11,710 [music] It was 916 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,460 only in the 1950s that an 917 00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:20,240 Austrian anesthesiologist achieved the first 918 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,460 successful resuscitation. 919 00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,560 The modern resuscitative first aid 920 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,359 that we know comes from Peter Stefan, 921 00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:29,220 who had a death and 922 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:30,060 said to himself that it couldn't 923 00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:31,980 go on like this and he then 924 00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:34,079 developed the ideas that we know today - move 925 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,240 the head back to clear the airways and get 926 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,420 the heart going again 927 00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:41,280 by pressing on the chest 928 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,960 and to the mouth, resuscitation and the 929 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,760 like So it's a relatively new 930 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,520 procedure, this modern resuscitative 931 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,040 first aid 932 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,420 comes to the conclusion that many lives 933 00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:53,640 can be saved if everyone 934 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,520 masters this technique, 935 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,260 but for that he needs a 936 00:41:58,260 --> 00:42:00,839 training model that is as realistic as possible, which did 937 00:42:00,839 --> 00:42:02,410 n't exist back then 938 00:42:02,410 --> 00:42:07,660 [music] 939 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,579 in 1959, 940 00:42:10,579 --> 00:42:13,200 Dr Safar is looking for one for him well-known 941 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,020 Norwegian toy manufacturer on 942 00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:17,820 monkeys and lehrdahl unfortunately has a lot of 943 00:42:17,820 --> 00:42:19,440 experience with a new material 944 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,260 called PVC and believes that this 945 00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:24,660 could be the solution. The two are developing 946 00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:27,000 a doll that imitates the basic function of 947 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,839 the lungs 948 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,680 [music], a 949 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,119 finished doll but 950 00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,460 no face yet where the hell 951 00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:41,180 he should get it here 952 00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:43,700 wants a passive, non- 953 00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:46,099 intimidating face 954 00:42:46,099 --> 00:42:48,359 one day he visits his 955 00:42:48,359 --> 00:42:49,920 in-laws and they see the 956 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,599 stranger with seeds hanging on the wall 957 00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:54,780 and he thinks perfect, that's it, 958 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:56,520 absolutely 959 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,520 perfect and that's how it happens in 960 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,339 many countries 961 00:43:01,339 --> 00:43:03,780 This exact 962 00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:06,060 face can be seen on these training dolls and 963 00:43:06,060 --> 00:43:09,680 has achieved worldwide fame, so to speak. 964 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,180 Finally, the unknown person from the 965 00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:15,560 lakes is christened with the name resashing. Around 966 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,180 967 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:19,700 500 million people around the world 968 00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,380 use it as a training doll and have contributed to it ever 969 00:43:22,380 --> 00:43:25,020 since to save up to two and a half million 970 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:26,250 lives 971 00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:27,900 [music] the 972 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,079 famous one who died 150 years ago in the sane 973 00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:33,720 is probably the most buried face 974 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:36,440 in history 975 00:43:37,579 --> 00:43:42,560 but a mystery surrounds 976 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,940 her famous face is almost too 977 00:43:47,940 --> 00:43:52,079 flawless so beautiful to be true 978 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:53,579 with water corpses you can of course see 979 00:43:53,579 --> 00:43:55,560 typical ones Signs, for example, that 980 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,480 the bacteria are migrating into the veins, 981 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,579 that a network of veins is breaking through or 982 00:43:59,579 --> 00:44:02,280 that the skin is peeling off, but of 983 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,140 course you wouldn't see any of this in reality on 984 00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:06,060 the death mask, so 985 00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:08,220 the reasoning is that you can see 986 00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:10,380 the signs of a death in the water on the death mask 987 00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:11,819 Can't see at all, of course, 988 00:44:11,819 --> 00:44:13,440 not quite right because you ca 989 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,700 n't capture them with the mask anyway, so that's 990 00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,619 no indication 991 00:44:16,619 --> 00:44:19,140 that the left is tired, perhaps even 992 00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:20,819 still alive when the death mask was 993 00:44:20,819 --> 00:44:22,460 made, 994 00:44:22,460 --> 00:44:27,300 but there is still an inconsistency 995 00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:29,700 when the eyes are closed The 996 00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:31,560 lens underneath forms a slight 997 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,440 bulge under the songs but some 998 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,300 complain that this bulge is not completely 999 00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:39,540 round, it seems as if her 1000 00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:41,760 eyes had moved when the plaster cast 1001 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,819 was made, so is this really the face 1002 00:44:44,819 --> 00:44:46,980 of a dead person or perhaps it belongs to 1003 00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:49,579 someone quick -lively young woman 1004 00:44:49,579 --> 00:44:54,980 this question must remain unanswered 64431

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