Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:47,987 --> 00:00:50,581
- What is it today, sir?
- The Ministry.
2
00:00:50,747 --> 00:00:54,183
All morning on Health
Service administration.
3
00:00:54,347 --> 00:00:56,702
A chap just now on the radio
4
00:00:56,867 --> 00:01:00,985
said the trouble with health,
education and transport
5
00:01:01,147 --> 00:01:04,344
is that people in Government
go to private hospitals
6
00:01:04,507 --> 00:01:07,624
and send their kids to private schools!
7
00:01:07,787 --> 00:01:10,347
Comedy programme, was it?
8
00:01:10,507 --> 00:01:13,499
And go to work in chauffeur-driven cars!
9
00:01:15,187 --> 00:01:17,860
Think there's something in it, sir?
10
00:01:18,027 --> 00:01:21,258
If you and Sir Humphrey went
to work on a number 27...
11
00:01:21,427 --> 00:01:22,746
Quite impracticable!
12
00:01:22,907 --> 00:01:27,423
We work long enough hours as it is,
without having to wait at bus stops.
13
00:01:27,587 --> 00:01:31,262
- You'd need more efficient buses.
- Certainly would.
14
00:01:31,427 --> 00:01:34,464
Yes, that's what he was saying.
15
00:01:35,427 --> 00:01:39,466
Same with the Health Service.
You a member of BUPA, sir?
16
00:01:39,627 --> 00:01:43,063
- Anything on the radio, Roy?
- "Yesterday in Parliament".
17
00:01:43,227 --> 00:01:44,785
Don't bother...
18
00:01:44,947 --> 00:01:48,337
Mr Lanford, opposition
member for Birmingham,
19
00:01:48,507 --> 00:01:51,624
asked the Administrative
Affairs Minister, James Hacker,
20
00:01:51,787 --> 00:01:55,302
about reducing administrators
in the Health Service.
21
00:01:55,947 --> 00:02:00,463
We have already
achieved a reduction of 11.3%
22
00:02:00,627 --> 00:02:02,857
in administrative staff
23
00:02:03,027 --> 00:02:06,303
and are actively pursuing
further economies.
24
00:02:06,467 --> 00:02:10,346
Would you explain
how his assurance to the House
25
00:02:10,507 --> 00:02:15,422
squares with this minute
from his own department?
26
00:02:15,587 --> 00:02:19,216
Then Mr Lanford
dramatically produced a paper.
27
00:02:19,387 --> 00:02:23,266
I quote, "If
admin staff were reclassified
28
00:02:23,427 --> 00:02:25,418
"from administrative to technical..."
29
00:02:27,107 --> 00:02:31,737
"...and the comparison changed
from the financial to calendar year,
30
00:02:31,907 --> 00:02:37,186
"then the figures will
show a fall of 11.3%. "
31
00:02:37,347 --> 00:02:40,942
Would the Minister care to
comment on this shabby deception?
32
00:02:42,147 --> 00:02:44,786
Bit of a googly, sir.
33
00:02:45,747 --> 00:02:49,103
I... er... I... erm...
34
00:02:49,267 --> 00:02:53,579
I have no knowledge of the
document you're brandishing.
35
00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:58,303
I shall give the
file reference to the Minister
36
00:02:58,467 --> 00:03:03,825
in exchange for an assurance
of a full independent enquiry.
37
00:03:06,347 --> 00:03:08,463
I will give that assurance.
38
00:03:08,627 --> 00:03:12,586
The House read the
Scottish Fisheries' Bill...
39
00:03:12,747 --> 00:03:16,183
That's a bit rough, innit?
"A full independent enquiry"!
40
00:03:17,467 --> 00:03:21,585
- You were dropped in it there.
- I think I got away with it.
41
00:03:21,747 --> 00:03:25,979
Lucky they didn't ask you
about that new hospital, sir.
42
00:03:26,147 --> 00:03:31,062
They finished it 15 months ago,
and it's still got no patients.
43
00:03:31,227 --> 00:03:33,866
The DHSS can't afford to staff it.
44
00:03:34,027 --> 00:03:37,940
It's got staff, 500 administrators.
45
00:03:38,107 --> 00:03:40,302
- Just no patients.
- Who told you?
46
00:03:40,467 --> 00:03:43,857
My mate Charlie, a driver
for the Health Secretary.
47
00:03:47,707 --> 00:03:49,618
- I'm appalled!
- So am I.
48
00:03:49,787 --> 00:03:51,664
The incompetence of it!
49
00:03:51,827 --> 00:03:54,341
I can't think what came over you.
50
00:03:54,507 --> 00:03:56,020
I beg your pardon!
51
00:03:56,187 --> 00:04:00,863
- A full independent enquiry.
- Humphrey, that's not what I meant.
52
00:04:01,027 --> 00:04:04,144
- But you mentioned incompetence.
- Yours, Humphrey, yours!
53
00:04:04,667 --> 00:04:07,545
- Mine?!
- You dropped me into it?
54
00:04:07,707 --> 00:04:12,542
We can't foresee a small omission
from the brief, but a full enquiry?!
55
00:04:12,707 --> 00:04:16,666
I don't want an enquiry, but if
you're drowning and thrown a rope...
56
00:04:16,827 --> 00:04:19,580
That wasn't a rope, it was a noose!
57
00:04:19,747 --> 00:04:21,942
You should've stood up for the department!
58
00:04:22,107 --> 00:04:25,099
I prepared thoroughly for
yesterday's Question Time,
59
00:04:25,267 --> 00:04:31,217
but nowhere was the suggestion you'd juggled
the figures so I'd mislead the House!
60
00:04:31,387 --> 00:04:36,302
You wanted the figures reduced?
So we reduced the figures!
61
00:04:36,467 --> 00:04:40,938
- Yes, but not the administrators.
- Of course not.
62
00:04:41,107 --> 00:04:45,976
- That's not what I meant.
- Minister, one isn't a mind-reader!
63
00:04:46,147 --> 00:04:49,503
- You said reduce them, so we did.
- And another thing:
64
00:04:49,667 --> 00:04:52,135
How did this get out? Another leak?
65
00:04:53,267 --> 00:04:56,304
This isn't a department, it's a colander!
66
00:04:56,467 --> 00:05:00,824
How can we govern responsibly,
if backbenchers get all the facts?
67
00:05:00,987 --> 00:05:05,822
- The enquiry gives us some time.
- So does a time-bomb!
68
00:05:05,987 --> 00:05:08,626
- Is there a disposal squad?
- Disposal squad?
69
00:05:08,787 --> 00:05:12,621
Couldn't we get the independent
enquiry to exonerate us?
70
00:05:13,987 --> 00:05:17,980
- Do you mean rig it?
- No, no, no, no!
71
00:05:18,147 --> 00:05:19,739
Well... yes.
72
00:05:20,427 --> 00:05:21,746
Minister!
73
00:05:22,627 --> 00:05:25,061
It depends on who the chairman is.
74
00:05:25,227 --> 00:05:28,537
- He absolutely has to be sound.
- Sound?
75
00:05:28,707 --> 00:05:34,100
He will know what is required.
He will perceive the implications.
76
00:05:34,267 --> 00:05:37,976
He will have a sympathetic
insight into the problems.
77
00:05:38,147 --> 00:05:41,025
In short, he will be "sound".
78
00:05:41,187 --> 00:05:42,939
You mean... bent?
79
00:05:43,107 --> 00:05:45,098
No, of course not!
80
00:05:45,267 --> 00:05:48,418
He will be a man of broad understanding...
81
00:05:48,587 --> 00:05:51,260
How about... a retired politician?
82
00:05:51,427 --> 00:05:54,100
And unimpeachable integrity.
83
00:05:54,267 --> 00:05:56,462
Yes, I see what you mean.
84
00:05:56,627 --> 00:05:58,743
- A businessman?
- Oh, really!
85
00:05:58,907 --> 00:06:01,865
- An academic?
- No, no, no.
86
00:06:02,027 --> 00:06:07,101
- Who've you got in mind?
- Perhaps a retired civil servant.
87
00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:11,146
- Good thinking, Humphrey.
- Sir Maurice Williams.
88
00:06:11,307 --> 00:06:13,457
Might not he be too independent?
89
00:06:13,627 --> 00:06:17,540
- Well, he's hoping for a peerage.
- Not through this?
90
00:06:17,707 --> 00:06:21,541
No, but the right finding
will earn him Brownie points!
91
00:06:21,707 --> 00:06:25,461
- Brownie points?!
- They all add up towards the badge!
92
00:06:26,947 --> 00:06:29,984
- Well, Sir Maurice it is.
- Thank you, Minister.
93
00:06:30,147 --> 00:06:32,661
Thank you... Brown Owl.
94
00:06:32,827 --> 00:06:34,146
Oh!
95
00:06:36,507 --> 00:06:38,657
Good morning, Bernard.
96
00:06:39,427 --> 00:06:42,897
- Two points... the Cuban refugees.
- Not that again?
97
00:06:43,067 --> 00:06:46,423
It's about our refusal
to do any more for them.
98
00:06:46,587 --> 00:06:50,375
It's not my fault, it's the
Treasury. You can't beat the Treasury!
99
00:06:50,547 --> 00:06:52,344
I shall say nothing.
100
00:06:52,507 --> 00:06:58,025
One more public humiliation and I'll
become a political refugee myself!
101
00:06:58,187 --> 00:07:02,578
- And the other point?
- The alleged empty hospital.
102
00:07:02,747 --> 00:07:06,706
As I warned you, the driver's
network is not wholly reliable.
103
00:07:06,867 --> 00:07:09,779
- Roy's wrong.
- Thank heavens for that!
104
00:07:09,947 --> 00:07:13,735
- How did you find out?
- The private secretaries' network.
105
00:07:13,907 --> 00:07:15,226
And?
106
00:07:15,387 --> 00:07:20,097
In fact, there are only 342
administrative staff at the hospital.
107
00:07:20,267 --> 00:07:24,658
The other 170 are porters, cleaners,
laundry workers, cooks, etc.
108
00:07:24,827 --> 00:07:26,385
And medical staff?
109
00:07:26,547 --> 00:07:28,617
Oh, none of them.
110
00:07:29,387 --> 00:07:31,821
- None?
- No!
111
00:07:31,987 --> 00:07:34,785
We are talking about St Edward's Hospital?
112
00:07:34,947 --> 00:07:37,700
Yes. It's brand-new
and fully-staffed.
113
00:07:37,867 --> 00:07:40,586
Unfortunately, there were cutbacks,
114
00:07:40,747 --> 00:07:43,705
so there was no money
for medical services.
115
00:07:43,867 --> 00:07:47,576
A hospital with over 500
non-medical staff and no patients?
116
00:07:47,747 --> 00:07:49,783
- There's one patient.
- One?
117
00:07:49,947 --> 00:07:54,145
The deputy administrator fell
over scaffolding and broke his leg.
118
00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:55,865
Good God!
119
00:07:56,027 --> 00:08:00,145
Thank heavens I wasn't asked
about this! Why hasn't it got out?
120
00:08:00,307 --> 00:08:03,504
It's been contrived to
look like a building site,
121
00:08:03,667 --> 00:08:06,818
and so far no one's
realised it's operational!
122
00:08:06,987 --> 00:08:10,263
You know, scaffolding,
skips, the normal thing?
123
00:08:10,787 --> 00:08:14,416
Normal?! I'd better look at
it before the opposition does.
124
00:08:14,587 --> 00:08:17,863
Yes, it's surprising the
press haven't found out.
125
00:08:18,027 --> 00:08:20,860
Fortunately, most journalists
are so incompetent,
126
00:08:21,027 --> 00:08:23,621
they wouldn't know today is Wednesday.
127
00:08:23,787 --> 00:08:26,745
It's actually Thursday, Minister.
128
00:08:31,147 --> 00:08:33,422
Let's sit down there.
129
00:08:33,587 --> 00:08:36,420
Why is your Minister
interested in this hospital?
130
00:08:36,587 --> 00:08:40,216
He's greatly concerned
that it has no patients.
131
00:08:40,387 --> 00:08:43,140
- It takes all sorts.
- Yes.
132
00:08:43,307 --> 00:08:45,423
- Evening.
- Good evening.
133
00:08:46,507 --> 00:08:51,376
How can there be patients
when it has no nursing staff?
134
00:08:53,627 --> 00:08:56,016
- Thank you.
- Splendid.
135
00:08:56,187 --> 00:08:58,462
- Sir Humphrey?
- Thank you.
136
00:08:59,587 --> 00:09:04,945
We've found at the DHSS that it
takes time to get things going.
137
00:09:06,147 --> 00:09:10,823
First of all, you have to sort out
the smooth running of the hospital.
138
00:09:10,987 --> 00:09:14,775
Having patients around
would be no help at all.
139
00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:17,781
They'd just be in the way.
140
00:09:17,947 --> 00:09:23,385
- Tell him this is the run-in period.
- Yes, yes, the run-in period.
141
00:09:24,107 --> 00:09:27,304
How long is the run-in
period going to last?
142
00:09:27,467 --> 00:09:30,345
My Minister's agreed to
an independent enquiry.
143
00:09:30,507 --> 00:09:34,705
- You know what I think about that.
- Yes, I know, but...
144
00:09:35,387 --> 00:09:40,461
we are going to get some
patients into St Edward's...
145
00:09:41,347 --> 00:09:42,939
eventually?
146
00:09:43,787 --> 00:09:45,539
Aren't we?
147
00:09:45,707 --> 00:09:47,698
It's possible.
148
00:09:49,467 --> 00:09:52,265
Certainly our present intention.
149
00:09:53,347 --> 00:09:55,338
In a year or two.
150
00:09:56,267 --> 00:10:00,419
Probably... when the financial
situation has eased up a bit.
151
00:10:00,587 --> 00:10:02,020
Not till then?
152
00:10:02,187 --> 00:10:06,465
How can I open 40 new wards
when I'm closing everywhere else?
153
00:10:06,627 --> 00:10:11,621
- Treasury wouldn't wear it.
- My Minister may want to shut the place.
154
00:10:11,787 --> 00:10:13,982
Impossible! What about the unions?
155
00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:18,945
- Are the unions active there yet?
- Good point.
156
00:10:21,267 --> 00:10:25,499
Remember that firebrand
agitator at Southwark Hospital?
157
00:10:27,107 --> 00:10:30,065
Billy Fraser, odious man. Could be useful.
158
00:10:30,227 --> 00:10:32,866
Time he was moved on.
159
00:10:36,507 --> 00:10:40,898
The Health Service is an advanced
case of galloping bureaucracy!
160
00:10:41,067 --> 00:10:43,979
Oh, certainly not galloping!
161
00:10:46,227 --> 00:10:48,457
A gentle canter at the most.
162
00:10:48,627 --> 00:10:52,745
- Instances flood into this office.
- From whom, Minister?
163
00:10:52,907 --> 00:10:56,183
MPs, constituents,
doctors, nurses, the public.
164
00:10:56,347 --> 00:10:58,178
Trouble makers!
165
00:10:58,347 --> 00:11:01,145
- The public?!
- They're the worst.
166
00:11:01,787 --> 00:11:03,140
Listen to this.
167
00:11:03,307 --> 00:11:06,379
Due to current situation,
168
00:11:06,547 --> 00:11:10,620
"it is not possible to issue the
extra stethoscopes applied for.
169
00:11:10,787 --> 00:11:16,976
"We can, however, supply longer
tubes for your existing stethoscopes."
170
00:11:17,907 --> 00:11:21,456
- Well?
- Doesn't that strike you as odd?
171
00:11:21,627 --> 00:11:24,585
- If they have long tubes...
- No, no.
172
00:11:24,747 --> 00:11:28,217
No, not longer stethoscopes,
MORE stethoscopes.
173
00:11:28,387 --> 00:11:31,060
If they had really long tubes,
174
00:11:31,227 --> 00:11:36,142
the doctor could stand in one
place and listen to all the chests.
175
00:11:39,907 --> 00:11:42,023
What about nurses' uniforms?
176
00:11:42,187 --> 00:11:45,338
"Apparently the latest
consignment of nurses' coats
177
00:11:45,707 --> 00:11:49,859
"is made of a see-through
material; nurses issued with these
178
00:11:50,027 --> 00:11:54,578
"are requested to report to the
Director of Uniform Surveillance
179
00:11:54,747 --> 00:11:59,298
"who will assess the
extent of the problem."
180
00:11:59,467 --> 00:12:03,858
- Nice work if you can get it.
- Humphrey, I'm serious!
181
00:12:04,907 --> 00:12:10,140
"Please note that the soft toilet
rolls are for patients not staff.
182
00:12:10,307 --> 00:12:15,097
"It would appear that staff have
been using the soft toilet rolls
183
00:12:15,267 --> 00:12:17,940
"for one reason or another."
184
00:12:19,507 --> 00:12:23,739
"St Stephen's Mortuary will
be closed over Christmas.
185
00:12:23,907 --> 00:12:27,104
"During the holiday, medical
staff are to cooperate
186
00:12:27,267 --> 00:12:30,259
"in keeping pressure off this department."
187
00:12:31,787 --> 00:12:34,096
A very civil and reasonable request.
188
00:12:34,267 --> 00:12:39,899
You think the rest of the year
doctors work hard to keep it busy?
189
00:12:40,467 --> 00:12:43,265
These are a few isolated examples.
190
00:12:43,427 --> 00:12:48,706
The Health Service is as efficient
as the Government allows it.
191
00:12:48,867 --> 00:12:51,779
Nonsense! The figures
speak for themselves.
192
00:12:51,947 --> 00:12:56,975
In ten years, the number of
administrators has risen by 40,000.
193
00:12:57,147 --> 00:13:00,583
The number of hospital
beds has fallen by 60,000.
194
00:13:00,747 --> 00:13:06,743
The annual cost of the Health
Service has gone up by ๏ฟฝ1.5 billion!
195
00:13:06,907 --> 00:13:10,900
If only British industry
could match this growth record.
196
00:13:11,067 --> 00:13:14,946
You think spending more
money on fewer patients
197
00:13:15,107 --> 00:13:17,541
so we can employ more administrators
198
00:13:17,707 --> 00:13:21,541
is a good way of spending
the taxpayer's money?
199
00:13:21,707 --> 00:13:23,026
Certainly.
200
00:13:23,187 --> 00:13:26,862
This money is solely to
make sick people better.
201
00:13:27,027 --> 00:13:29,905
No, no, no, Minister.
202
00:13:30,067 --> 00:13:32,627
It is to make everybody better.
203
00:13:32,787 --> 00:13:37,144
Better for showing the extent
of their care and compassion.
204
00:13:37,307 --> 00:13:42,586
You see, when money is allocated
to the Health or Social Services,
205
00:13:42,747 --> 00:13:46,137
Parliament and the
country feel... cleansed.
206
00:13:47,147 --> 00:13:50,742
Purified. Absolved. It is a sacrifice.
207
00:13:50,907 --> 00:13:52,784
Dreadful claptrap!
208
00:13:53,507 --> 00:13:59,025
After the sacrifice, nobody questions
what happened to the offering.
209
00:13:59,187 --> 00:14:05,137
- The public does care if it's misspent.
- They care it's not seen to be misspent.
210
00:14:05,307 --> 00:14:10,506
That's not true. Look at the uproar
over mental hospital scandals.
211
00:14:10,667 --> 00:14:12,544
My point exactly.
212
00:14:12,707 --> 00:14:16,222
Those abuses had been
going on happily for years.
213
00:14:16,387 --> 00:14:20,380
Nobody was concerned what was
being done with their money.
214
00:14:20,547 --> 00:14:24,938
- What outraged them was being told!
- A cynical smokescreen!
215
00:14:25,107 --> 00:14:30,420
Do we not agree there's no point in
a hospital run solely for the staff?
216
00:14:30,587 --> 00:14:35,581
- That's not how I would express it.
- It's how I would.
217
00:14:35,747 --> 00:14:37,738
Indeed.
218
00:14:38,747 --> 00:14:42,217
- How would you express it?
- At the end of the day,
219
00:14:42,387 --> 00:14:45,504
one of a hospital's prime
functions is patient care.
220
00:14:45,667 --> 00:14:46,986
One?
221
00:14:47,147 --> 00:14:51,060
Until we have the money for
nursing and medical staff,
222
00:14:51,227 --> 00:14:55,266
it's a function we can't
pursue. In 18 months or so...
223
00:14:55,427 --> 00:14:58,624
- 18 months?
- we can open some wards.
224
00:14:58,787 --> 00:15:01,142
No, it's got to be now.
225
00:15:02,307 --> 00:15:05,777
I suppose we could form an
inter-departmental committee
226
00:15:05,947 --> 00:15:09,064
to examine the feasibility
of monitoring a proposal
227
00:15:09,227 --> 00:15:11,900
for admitting patients earlier.
228
00:15:12,347 --> 00:15:15,384
- How long would that take to report?
- Not long.
229
00:15:15,547 --> 00:15:18,983
How long? About 18 months...!
230
00:15:19,707 --> 00:15:23,302
I suggest we get rid
of all the staff there
231
00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:27,983
and use the money to open
closed wards in other hospitals.
232
00:15:28,147 --> 00:15:33,540
When we can afford it, we open
St Edward's with medical staff.
233
00:15:33,707 --> 00:15:37,495
Do that and you'll delay the
opening for patients for years.
234
00:15:37,667 --> 00:15:41,023
You talk as if the
staff have nothing to do!
235
00:15:41,187 --> 00:15:43,542
- What do they do?
- Really, Minister!
236
00:15:43,707 --> 00:15:46,779
There's a large number of
extremely busy departments.
237
00:15:46,947 --> 00:15:50,622
Firstly, the Contingency Department
for fires, strikes, air raids,
238
00:15:50,787 --> 00:15:54,097
nuclear war, epidemics,
food or water poisoning.
239
00:15:54,267 --> 00:15:58,306
In such a crisis, the hospital
is a key centre for survival.
240
00:15:58,467 --> 00:16:01,140
Then, the Data and Research Department,
241
00:16:01,307 --> 00:16:05,778
conducting a full-scale demographic
survey of the catchment area.
242
00:16:05,947 --> 00:16:09,417
We have to anticipate the future
requirements for maternity,
243
00:16:09,587 --> 00:16:13,626
geriatrics, paediatrics
and the male/female balance.
244
00:16:13,787 --> 00:16:16,859
Thirdly, there's Finance
- projected accounts,
245
00:16:17,027 --> 00:16:19,780
balance sheets and cash-flow budgets.
246
00:16:19,947 --> 00:16:25,067
Then, the Purchasing Department
for purchasing medical equipment,
247
00:16:25,227 --> 00:16:29,459
examining estimates, looking
at price lists and catalogues...
248
00:16:29,627 --> 00:16:31,504
Purchasing what?
249
00:16:31,667 --> 00:16:33,225
Everything, Minister.
250
00:16:33,387 --> 00:16:37,346
Everything from brain scanners
to Brasso! May I continue?
251
00:16:37,507 --> 00:16:38,826
Be briefer.
252
00:16:39,707 --> 00:16:43,825
Would that I could, Minister,
but you need to understand.
253
00:16:43,987 --> 00:16:46,865
Fifth, the Technical
Department for evaluations.
254
00:16:47,027 --> 00:16:51,384
Sixth, the Building Department
dealing with Phase 3 plans,
255
00:16:51,547 --> 00:16:56,541
costing and so forth for the final
phase to be completed by 1994.
256
00:16:56,707 --> 00:16:59,540
Then, there's Maintenance,
Cleaning and Catering,
257
00:16:59,707 --> 00:17:03,746
Personnel in charge of leave,
National Health Insurance, salaries,
258
00:17:03,907 --> 00:17:09,061
as well as staff welfare officers
to look after the 500 employees.
259
00:17:09,227 --> 00:17:12,105
- And finally, Administration.
- Administrators!
260
00:17:12,267 --> 00:17:14,656
More administrators administrating
other administrators!
261
00:17:14,827 --> 00:17:17,387
This is important work, Minister.
262
00:17:17,547 --> 00:17:21,222
The typing pool, stationery,
office furniture and equipment.
263
00:17:21,387 --> 00:17:26,302
- Liaison between departments.
- Are you being serious or not?
264
00:17:26,467 --> 00:17:30,745
- What do you mean?
- There are NO patients!
265
00:17:30,907 --> 00:17:33,979
That is what a hospital's for. Patients!
266
00:17:34,147 --> 00:17:37,059
Ill people! Healing the sick!
267
00:17:37,227 --> 00:17:42,904
But all these vital tasks must
be done with or without patients.
268
00:17:43,587 --> 00:17:45,498
Why?
269
00:17:46,427 --> 00:17:49,305
- Why?
- Why?
270
00:17:50,507 --> 00:17:52,702
I don't understand.
271
00:17:52,867 --> 00:17:55,586
How else can I express it? Why?
272
00:17:55,747 --> 00:17:58,420
Would you sack the army
because there's no war?
273
00:17:58,587 --> 00:18:02,421
Completely different! A
hospital must produce results.
274
00:18:02,587 --> 00:18:08,219
We don't measure our success
by results but by activity.
275
00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:12,744
Those 500 people are seriously overworked!
276
00:18:15,347 --> 00:18:18,783
The full establishment should be 650.
277
00:18:18,947 --> 00:18:21,381
May I show you the paperwork?
278
00:18:21,547 --> 00:18:24,778
No, Humphrey. Enough is enough. Sack them!
279
00:18:25,387 --> 00:18:28,299
Out of the question, Minister.
280
00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:31,982
We need administrators or
the hospital will never open.
281
00:18:32,147 --> 00:18:35,617
- Sack the ancillary staff.
- The unions won't wear it.
282
00:18:35,787 --> 00:18:40,656
Sack half and use the money
to get doctors and nurses,
283
00:18:40,827 --> 00:18:43,182
and open some wards!
284
00:18:43,347 --> 00:18:47,181
No, Humphrey, that's my
last word. My last word!
285
00:18:47,347 --> 00:18:49,417
You may go!
286
00:18:50,907 --> 00:18:55,059
Very well, Minister. I shall
have a word with the unions.
287
00:18:56,067 --> 00:18:59,582
- But I don't hold out much hope.
- Go!
288
00:19:01,907 --> 00:19:05,263
That seems to be everything.
Thank you for coming.
289
00:19:11,747 --> 00:19:14,466
Thank you very much.
290
00:19:15,547 --> 00:19:17,583
Very good meeting.
291
00:19:17,747 --> 00:19:20,978
- Got time for a drink?
- A quick one.
292
00:19:21,147 --> 00:19:23,707
The usual? Make yourself at home.
293
00:19:23,867 --> 00:19:25,266
Thank you.
294
00:19:31,027 --> 00:19:34,736
What are we going to do about St Edward's?
295
00:19:34,907 --> 00:19:36,977
St Edward's Hospital?
296
00:19:37,147 --> 00:19:40,822
Not much of a case. Can't fight you on it.
297
00:19:41,627 --> 00:19:43,697
What do you mean?
298
00:19:43,867 --> 00:19:49,100
We realise you can't keep ancillary
staff on in an empty hospital.
299
00:19:49,667 --> 00:19:52,465
Isn't that a bit defeatist?
300
00:19:53,387 --> 00:19:55,423
What?
301
00:19:55,587 --> 00:19:59,182
- Surely, you can stick up for them?
- You want us to...?
302
00:19:59,347 --> 00:20:02,464
It's not just your workers, you know?
303
00:20:02,627 --> 00:20:08,065
The 342 civil servants must
have some workers to administer.
304
00:20:08,227 --> 00:20:13,062
- Civil servants are never laid off.
- We live in disturbing times.
305
00:20:13,867 --> 00:20:18,702
You mean, if we take industrial
action, you'll support us?
306
00:20:18,867 --> 00:20:22,177
My dear Brian, I am
the Permanent Secretary.
307
00:20:22,347 --> 00:20:25,305
My task is to turn the
wheels of government.
308
00:20:25,467 --> 00:20:28,857
I couldn't possibly
countenance any such action.
309
00:20:29,987 --> 00:20:35,857
But... if there were effective
opposition from the ancillary workers,
310
00:20:36,027 --> 00:20:38,746
the civil servants would have to stay.
311
00:20:38,907 --> 00:20:40,465
And the Minister?
312
00:20:40,627 --> 00:20:45,018
The Minister doesn't know
his ACAS from his NALGO.
313
00:20:50,107 --> 00:20:52,780
I haven't got much of a case.
314
00:20:52,947 --> 00:20:57,099
Hospital empty for 15 months,
wards not open for another year.
315
00:20:57,267 --> 00:21:01,465
Pull yourself together. Think of
your members' wives and children.
316
00:21:01,627 --> 00:21:04,664
Their... cats... budgies!
317
00:21:04,827 --> 00:21:07,261
They're resigned to it by now.
318
00:21:08,027 --> 00:21:11,542
Is Billy Fraser resigned to it?
319
00:21:12,227 --> 00:21:14,695
Yes... but he's over at Southwark.
320
00:21:15,587 --> 00:21:18,465
Do you want to bet?
321
00:21:18,907 --> 00:21:20,306
You mean...?
322
00:21:21,627 --> 00:21:26,826
Well, that's a different matter,
with some real shop-floor militancy.
323
00:21:26,987 --> 00:21:30,263
You see? Unity. Solidarity.
324
00:21:31,027 --> 00:21:33,985
- Thanks for the drink.
- Thank you, Brother.
325
00:21:34,147 --> 00:21:38,538
Please give my kind regards
to our fraternal comrades.
326
00:21:41,307 --> 00:21:45,903
# We shall not We shall not be moved #
327
00:22:09,187 --> 00:22:12,896
Minister, this is Mrs Rogers,
the chief administrator.
328
00:22:13,067 --> 00:22:17,219
- Nice to meet you.
- Billy Fraser, committee chairman.
329
00:22:17,387 --> 00:22:22,063
- How nice to meet you.
- I wouldn't be too sure.
330
00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:31,345
This is 'F' ward.
331
00:22:50,387 --> 00:22:53,185
And this is 'J' theatre.
332
00:22:55,827 --> 00:23:02,380
- How much did all this cost?
- With radiotherapy... two and a quarter million.
333
00:23:02,547 --> 00:23:08,258
- It's appalling it's not used!
- No, a very good thing in some ways.
334
00:23:08,427 --> 00:23:12,022
Prolongs its life,
cuts down running costs.
335
00:23:12,187 --> 00:23:14,303
But there are no patients!
336
00:23:14,467 --> 00:23:17,140
But essential work has to go on.
337
00:23:17,307 --> 00:23:19,867
Aren't patients essential work?
338
00:23:20,027 --> 00:23:23,702
Running an organisation
of 500 people is a big job.
339
00:23:23,867 --> 00:23:27,382
But if they weren't here,
they wouldn't be here!
340
00:23:27,547 --> 00:23:29,617
This is wrong. It won't do.
341
00:23:29,787 --> 00:23:32,859
Either get some patients or I'll close it.
342
00:23:33,027 --> 00:23:37,976
- Well, in the course of time...
- Not in the course of time. Now!
343
00:23:38,147 --> 00:23:43,540
Get rid of 300 staff, get some
doctors and get some patients!
344
00:23:43,707 --> 00:23:47,939
Without those 300 people this
hospital wouldn't function!
345
00:23:48,107 --> 00:23:50,143
And it's functioning now?
346
00:23:50,307 --> 00:23:54,505
Minister, it's one of the
best-run hospitals in the country.
347
00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:57,465
It's up for a Florence Nightingale Award.
348
00:23:57,627 --> 00:24:02,257
- What, pray, is that?
- "The Most Hygienic Hospital".
349
00:24:02,827 --> 00:24:06,263
I've said my last word. 300 staff must go.
350
00:24:06,427 --> 00:24:12,184
- 300 jobs lost?!
- Surgery with a skeleton staff?!
351
00:24:12,347 --> 00:24:17,296
Don't do any surgery. Do varicose
veins, piles... Do something!
352
00:24:17,467 --> 00:24:21,221
- You mean 300 jobs lost?!
- Yes, I do.
353
00:24:21,387 --> 00:24:25,096
A hospital is a place
for healing of the sick!
354
00:24:25,267 --> 00:24:29,545
It's employment for my members,
and you want to sack them.
355
00:24:29,707 --> 00:24:32,301
Is that your compassionate society?
356
00:24:32,467 --> 00:24:35,459
Compassionate to patients
rather than your members!
357
00:24:35,627 --> 00:24:38,221
We'll come out on strike.
358
00:24:38,987 --> 00:24:41,262
Very well, do that.
359
00:24:41,427 --> 00:24:45,978
Who can it harm? Do, please!
Strike, the sooner the better!
360
00:24:46,147 --> 00:24:51,460
Take the administrators with you.
Then we shan't have to pay you.
361
00:25:01,147 --> 00:25:05,379
- How about a drink before home?
- Yes. Thank you, Minister.
362
00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:09,825
- That went well at the hospital.
- Yes, Minister.
363
00:25:09,987 --> 00:25:13,343
- I wasn't standing any argument.
- No, Minister.
364
00:25:13,507 --> 00:25:17,864
Threatening to strike! Played
right into my hands. Cheers!
365
00:25:18,027 --> 00:25:20,825
Aren't we missing the news?
366
00:25:22,107 --> 00:25:28,023
Our diplomatic correspondent
says the US is pressuring the UK
367
00:25:28,187 --> 00:25:30,576
to take Cuban refugees.
368
00:25:30,747 --> 00:25:33,022
The Government has made no comment.
369
00:25:33,187 --> 00:25:35,064
Got no money.
370
00:25:35,227 --> 00:25:41,860
All workers in London hospitals are
to go on strike at Friday midnight.
371
00:25:42,587 --> 00:25:45,147
Right... What?!
372
00:25:45,307 --> 00:25:47,901
A row has blown up at St Edwards
373
00:25:48,067 --> 00:25:52,424
over the proposed laying-off
of 170 ancillary workers.
374
00:25:52,587 --> 00:25:55,055
We spoke to activist Billy Fraser.
375
00:25:55,227 --> 00:25:58,219
We're striking against unemployment.
376
00:25:58,387 --> 00:26:01,743
We can bring London's hospitals
to a complete standstill.
377
00:26:02,387 --> 00:26:07,063
There'll be no blood transfusions,
no cancer treatment, nothingl
378
00:26:07,227 --> 00:26:10,139
Till we have the compassionate society.
379
00:26:10,307 --> 00:26:15,381
- How can you do this to patients?
- It's Mr Hacker that's doing it.
380
00:26:15,547 --> 00:26:19,859
But you're inflicting terrible
sanctions on the innocent public.
381
00:26:20,027 --> 00:26:25,226
I'd like to take this opportunity
to assure the general public,
382
00:26:25,387 --> 00:26:29,778
every stone will be left unturned
in a search for a settlement.
383
00:26:32,067 --> 00:26:36,265
Have you seen the news? You
said you'd talk to the unions!
384
00:26:36,427 --> 00:26:40,705
- What are we going to do?
- We have a more serious problem.
385
00:26:40,867 --> 00:26:44,098
Sir Maurice's independent
enquiry about the department.
386
00:26:44,267 --> 00:26:46,383
It's unfavourable to us.
387
00:26:46,547 --> 00:26:48,617
You said he was sound!
388
00:26:48,787 --> 00:26:52,826
I know, but he's also working as chairman
389
00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:55,626
of the Refugee Resettlement Committee.
390
00:26:55,787 --> 00:27:00,099
There are more Brownie points
for refugees than enquiries!
391
00:27:00,267 --> 00:27:01,985
Precisely, Minister.
392
00:27:02,147 --> 00:27:05,105
We've no money to re-house the refugees.
393
00:27:05,627 --> 00:27:08,187
- Minister?
- I don't want to talk!
394
00:27:08,347 --> 00:27:10,497
It's Number 10...
395
00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:15,900
Hello, Ji...
396
00:27:16,067 --> 00:27:17,659
Yes. Quite.
397
00:27:17,827 --> 00:27:19,146
I see.
398
00:27:19,307 --> 00:27:21,537
Not at all. Thank you.
399
00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:24,496
They've seen Fraser on the news.
400
00:27:24,667 --> 00:27:27,500
They want a peace formula soon!
401
00:27:27,667 --> 00:27:34,300
Sir Maurice says he'll be satisfied
only if the UK will house 1,000 refugees.
402
00:27:34,467 --> 00:27:38,983
But we haven't the money.
Or for 1,000 hospital beds...
403
00:27:40,067 --> 00:27:43,742
- How many refugees?
- 1,000.
404
00:27:43,907 --> 00:27:46,979
1,000 refugees? 1,000 beds!
405
00:27:47,147 --> 00:27:52,585
Minister, that hospital is for
sick British not healthy foreigners!
406
00:27:52,747 --> 00:27:56,137
- There's a huge waiting list.
- Didn't you just say
407
00:27:56,307 --> 00:28:00,186
Sir Maurice's enquiry was
likely to come down against us?
408
00:28:00,347 --> 00:28:03,419
- That's a...
- That what you want?
409
00:28:04,787 --> 00:28:07,301
I see your point, Minister.
410
00:28:07,467 --> 00:28:11,983
Bernard, reinstate all
the workers at St Edward's.
411
00:28:12,147 --> 00:28:15,457
Tell Sir Maurice we can
offer a new hospital,
412
00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:18,221
with accommodation for 1,000 refugees.
413
00:28:18,387 --> 00:28:22,426
Tell the press it was my decision
and that everybody's happy.
414
00:28:22,587 --> 00:28:26,626
- Do want to give a quote, Minister?
- Why not? Say...
415
00:28:26,787 --> 00:28:31,338
"It was a tough decision,
but a necessary one.
416
00:28:33,427 --> 00:28:37,466
"If Britain is to retain the name of..."
417
00:28:37,627 --> 00:28:41,302
- "The compassionate society"?
- Thank you.
418
00:28:41,467 --> 00:28:44,220
"The compassionate society." Got that?
419
00:28:44,387 --> 00:28:46,821
Yes, Minister.
35346
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.