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January 1591, Edinburgh.
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A woman is about to be executed.
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Her crime?
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She is a witch!
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Blessed is the man that walketh
not in the counsel of the ungodly.
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She's been interrogated
and tortured,
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and now she'll be strangled
and burnt at the stake.
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BELL TOLLS
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How did the execution of this woman
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light the fuse on a century
of witch-hunts across Britain,
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and the state-sanctioned killing
of thousands more like her?
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The ungodly are not so!
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In this series, I'm reinvestigating
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some of the most dramatic and brutal
chapters in British history.
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It wasn't just one generation,
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it was three generations,
losing their lives,
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bam, bam, bam.
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These stories form part of
our national mythology.
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They harbour mysteries that have
intrigued us for centuries.
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It's chilling to think
that this could actually be evidence
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in a murder investigation.
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But with the passage of time,
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we have new ways to unlock
their secrets,
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using scientific advances
and a modern perspective.
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It's a horrible psychosexual form of
torture, isn't it? Absolutely.
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I'm going to uncover
forgotten witnesses,
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I'm going to re-examine old evidence
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and follow new clues to get closer
to the truth.
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It is one of the great
British mysteries.
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It was one of those moments,
I'm afraid, for a historian,
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that makes the hairs stand up
on the back of your neck.
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RAVEN CROAKS
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Today, when we think about witches,
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we think about old hags
with pointy hats
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and broomsticks and black cats.
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But witches have a history
that's long, sinister and very real.
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400 years ago, thousands of
ordinary women
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were tortured and executed
in witch-hunts.
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I want to know who these women were,
and why they were killed.
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The witch-hunting craze that swept
the country 400 years ago
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began here, just along the coast
from Edinburgh,
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in the small seaside town of
North Berwick.
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The events that were said
to have taken place here
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would spark the very first
large-scale witch-hunt in Scotland.
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I'm heading to the scene
of the crime,
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the Old Kirk of St Andrew.
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It looks a bit like a small hut.
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Today, this is all that remains
of a once-sizeable church.
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And it was here,
one night in October 1590,
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that a group of witches
supposedly gathered.
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What a great place
for a witches' meeting!
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Right on the edge of the sea,
with a huge, craggy,
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devilish-looking rock
in the background.
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This was a time when everyone
believed in witchcraft,
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and this is the story of
what happened here.
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"On the night of All Hallows..."
That means Halloween.
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The perfect time
for some witchy business.
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"There were a great many witches,
to the number of 200."
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And it says that they had
flagons of wine...
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THEY SING
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..they were making merry
and drinking,
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and they were singing
all with one voice.
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The story goes
that the devil was here.
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And these witches
were concocting dangerous spells.
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They took a cat and christened it,
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and afterward, bound to each part
of that cat
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the chiefest parts of a dead man.
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And the said cat was put in the sea.
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And then, "There did arise
such a tempest in the sea
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"as a greater have not been seen".
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THUNDERCLAP
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This storm had been conjured
for one purpose -
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to kill the King of Scotland.
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WAVES CRASH
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James VI had been returning by ship
from Denmark,
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and was lucky to survive.
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This all sounds absolutely bonkers.
Ha-ha-ha-ha!
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But it's all... Oh!
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It makes a crazy sort of sense.
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This is exactly the sort of thing
witches are supposed to do, isn't
it?
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They're supposed to play around
with corpses and cats.
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Witches are supposed to be able
to control the weather.
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It's one of their powers.
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It might sound like a fairy tale,
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but what happened here set off
a devastating chain of events.
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Dozens were executed
for this alleged plot.
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And it triggered a century
of persecution
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across the British Isles.
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Thousands more would be killed
for the crime of witchcraft.
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Some of them, men,
the majority, women.
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To understand why this story
had such impact,
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I want to see the original text
for myself.
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It's held here, at
the University of Glasgow Archives.
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It's a pamphlet, printed in London,
called News From Scotland.
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And it gives a full account
of this plot against the king
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and the trial of those
held responsible.
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Only a very few of these pamphlets
survive.
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This little book is more than
400 years old.
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It's an account, in quite...
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In fact, it's quite a sensational,
tabloidy account,
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of the first major witch-hunt
in Scotland.
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It was written in 1591, shortly
after the events it describes.
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I...I have picked up many, many
old books,
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and it never gets old.
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It's a pleasure every single time.
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You can't open it too wide.
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Don't want it to snap.
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Here's a little summary.
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It's a true discourse
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of the apprehension
of sundry witches
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lately taken in Scotland,
where of some...
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Ooh! ..are executed,
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and some are yet imprisoned.
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These must be the witches.
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They're all bustling along
in a sort of girl gang.
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And it's pretty clear
that they are witches,
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because here is the devil.
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He's in a pulpit, he's making
a sermon like a priest would do,
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but he's the flip image of a priest.
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He is, in fact, the devil.
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And these witches here at the top,
they are
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working magic with their cauldron.
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They have cooked up a storm
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that has destroyed
His Majesty's ship.
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You can see it's been wrecked,
people are falling into the waves.
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And these are the witches
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who disrupted the king's journey
back from Denmark.
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This pamphlet was commissioned
by King James himself.
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It was distributed in England
to tell the story of his triumph
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against the witches' wicked plot.
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It's clearly designed to be
dramatic.
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Hmm. So this is quite emotive
language here.
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They're not just witches, they are
wicked and detestable witches.
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They had, seduced by their sorcery
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a number of others
to be as bad as themselves.
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So this is a problem.
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The number of witches in Scotland
is growing.
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There are more and more of them
every day.
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We should be very afraid.
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The author tells us that, "God
have lately overthrown and hindered
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"the intentions and wicked dealings"
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"of a great number
of ungodly creatures,
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"no better than devils."
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News From Scotland paints witches
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as a serious threat to order
and stability.
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And the witch-hunt
as the necessary means
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by which the godly can prevail.
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But why was the Scottish king
so eager to tell the English
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about his triumph over evil?
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The late 16th century
was a time of huge
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political and religious upheaval.
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The Reformation was sweeping across
Europe,
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as Protestants rejected
the Pope's authority
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and centuries of Catholicism.
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Here in Scotland,
James was the figurehead
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for this new Protestant church,
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but he also had his eye on
the English throne.
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Queen Elizabeth I was getting older,
she had no children.
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James was positioning himself
as a strong and godly ruler.
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As a worthy successor
to the Crown of England.
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Did James VI's desire
for greater power
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play a part in the ramping up
of a war against witches?
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Edinburgh's National Portrait
Gallery
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has a painting of James VI
dating from this time.
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James has just turned 24,
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he has already had two decades
of his reign,
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and a very turbulent reign
it has been.
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And remember, he's still
quite a young king
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who's sort of dealing with noble
factions and quarrels.
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And he doesn't have
the all-important heir.
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So, am I right that, in 1590,
James has just got married?
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Yes. He's just got married
to Anna of Denmark.
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She's just a teenager.
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She is his new bride.
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And of course,
now James has the hope
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that they're going to have children,
they're going to produce heirs.
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But there've been a few problems
in getting her
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from Denmark to Scotland,
haven't there?
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Anna's meant to be coming
to Scotland, but there are
these terrible storms
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and her ship springs a leak.
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And the admiral in charge of the
fleet says, " No, we have to turn
back."
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And James makes a decision.
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"I'm going to go to Anna!"
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Originally, he's driven back
by storms.
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He has to go back into one of
the Fife ports and then try again.
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But eventually,
they make it through.
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But he's had to leave his country.
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I mean, OK, he has taken a lot of
his nobles and gentlemen with him,
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where he can keep an eye on them,
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but he has had to leave Scotland.
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It's a risk. Yes!
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So these storms, this business
of the weather in the North Sea,
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is psychologically onerous to him.
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It's more than inconvenient,
it's dangerous.
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He's had to take risks to his
personal safety to overcome it.
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Yes. And remember, we've only James,
there's no heir.
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If James goes down with the ship,
Scotland is plunged into chaos.
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Louise, how familiar do you think
James was
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with the idea of witches
and witchcraft?
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Witchcraft has been around in
Scotland from before the
Reformation.
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The important thing is that people
believed that witchcraft is real.
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And it's also about living
in a providential world,
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where you believe God
is looking over everything.
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So if the king is godly,
then God blesses him,
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God blesses his rule,
God blesses his country and people.
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Now, if you annoy God by letting
sinners like witches go unpunished,
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well, that's when God might
visit your country with famines
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and plagues and losses in battle.
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So, you know, to show
you're a good, strong king,
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you must show you're a godly king,
upholding God's law.
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And especially against the enemies
of God, the witches.
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What better way to prove that
you're a righteous and godly king
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than to triumph in a face-off
with witches?
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That pamphlet, News From Scotland,
was clearly good spin for James.
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But who were the real women
of North Berwick,
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branded as witches,
arrested and burnt at the stake?
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It's not easy to uncover the story
of these ordinary women.
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They would have been illiterate,
so left no testimony of their own,
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and many witch-trial documents
have been lost.
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This book is a history
of King James VI.
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It's contemporary,
it was written in his lifetime.
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And there's a whole section in it
about witches.
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And there should be a reference to
the very first woman to be executed
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in the North Berwick witch-hunt.
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And here, I think...
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Yes!
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..is her name.
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Agnes Sampson.
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Agnes Sampson, "grace wyff".
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That means midwife.
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Somebody who brings you God's grace
when you're giving birth.
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And it says, "alias callit",
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which means otherwise called,
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"the wyse wyff of Keyth".
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That means a wise woman,
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a...a folk healer,
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somebody with slightly mysterious
powers.
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And it looks like she's from Keyth.
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So, how on earth did Agnes Sampson,
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midwife and folk healer,
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get caught up in this brutal
witch-hunt?
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The answer could lie in the role
she played in her community,
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and in the tools of her trade.
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Hidden away in the storerooms
at the National Museum of Scotland
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is a unique collection of everyday
objects with magical powers.
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Well, what we have here
is a selection of some of
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our large collection of charms
and amulets,
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which are reputed
to have superstitious powers.
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So these were objects put
to, um...protect you,
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and they are also curative.
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So, what sort of a world
are we looking into here, then?
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One...one where people
probably believed in God,
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but also believed in a load of other
sort of supernatural powers? Yes.
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We have religious belief, a belief
in God, that is able to co-exist,
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in their mind, quite happily,
with the supernatural.
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So a belief in fairies,
malevolent elves, evil witches.
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What's this neat little black one
that looks like a Christmas pudding
tied up with a ribbon?
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This is a seedpod that's come
all the way... Oh, is it?
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..possibly from the Caribbean,
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and it's floated on the Gulf Stream.
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So local people, ordinary people,
would pick them up off the beaches
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and use these to help them
during childbirth.
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And as a result,
they are called Mary's Nut.
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Mary's Nut? Yep, or St Mary's Nut.
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So it's really Mother
Mary's protection in childbirth.
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So it's that combination
of a religious belief
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allied to something that has
more of a folk belief
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and a superstitious belief.
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And is it the sort of thing
that you'd lend to your friend
when she was pregnant...
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Yeah, I think you could.
..and then pass it on? Yeah.
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But you'd probably want
your own one, anyway,
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cos you're probably giving birth
quite a lot. Oh, many times, yes.
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A lot of...a lot of use
for the Mary's Nuts. Yeah.
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This one catches my eye.
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Well, this little cross
is a wonderful example
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of something everyday
that anyone could have owned.
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It's, um...made from rowan,
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and the rowan tree is supposed
to be protective
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against evil spirits.
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So you might just carry this,
you could have it on your person,
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or you could have it
under your pillow. Mm-hm.
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And you planted rowan trees
in your gardens to keep away
the evil spirits.
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So, how does a folk healer
fit into this world
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of the amulets and the charms?
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So you'll have had these as
your everyday item for
everyday protection,
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and you would bring in someone,
like a healer, a wise woman,
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when something's gone
really badly wrong.
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She will have had knowledge of herbs
and so on, like a homeopath today.
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But they're also presumed to have
magical powers.
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This sounds like witchcraft.
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What's the difference between
folk healing and witchery?
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The witch is living within
the community
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and associated with evil things.
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Evil spirits, nasty things
happening, disease, crops failing.
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The folk healer is associated
with good things.
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So, the folk healer
is on your side... Yes.
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..and the witch is against you? Yes.
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Indeed, she's a witch-buster.
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Because she's associated with
getting rid of those evil spirits.
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Agnes would have been
a pillar of her community.
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So, how did that change?
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And why did she become
branded as a witch,
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accused of plotting to kill
the king?
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I want to see where the wise wife
of Keyth lived.
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Her village lies in the
East Lothian countryside,
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about 20 miles south
of North Berwick.
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So I guess that's the remains
of the village.
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Looks like it's only one house
just now.
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But up here this way,
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is the...the remains of the church.
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BIRDSONG
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I'm looking for the ruin,
that I think is through
this sea of nettles.
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Makes a change from being
in the library!
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Ah! That's brilliant.
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MONASTIC CHANTING
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It's great to think that
Agnes herself would have stood here.
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This would have been
where she came...
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..to services.
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Here since the 12th century,
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Agnes' village church would have
been Catholic for almost 300 years.
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Decorated with murals and alive
with the chanting of Latin Mass.
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But from the 1560s,
her church was becoming Protestant.
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The shock waves of the Reformation
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were felt even in remote villages
like this one.
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The church was stripped of
its Catholic adornments,
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the Latin Mass was banned.
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Now, Catholic belief and folk belief
had sort of peacefully co-existed.
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But I'm starting to wonder whether,
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as Catholic gave way to Protestant,
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a folk healer like Agnes might have
been caught in the crossfire.
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Religious change
brought huge upheaval,
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even for a small, rural village
like Agnes'.
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And they faced other difficulties,
too.
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It was a period that's sometimes
called the Little Ice Age.
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Winters were getting colder.
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I do know that in the 1580s
there was a big famine in Scotland
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and population was rising.
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There was more competition
for resources.
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There must have been more fear
and suspicion
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and trouble of various kinds,
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as there always is
when something bad happens.
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There must have been a sense
that something was going wrong
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and that somebody must be to blame.
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A folk healer like Agnes
trod a fine line
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between being someone people
called upon when they needed help
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and someone they blamed
when misfortune struck.
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It makes me wonder what triggered
the first accusation against Agnes.
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News From Scotland claims
she was denounced as a witch
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by a local servant girl
called Geillis Duncane.
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But I can't find any evidence
to back that up.
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What I have uncovered
is this document,
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describing a church leaders'
meeting.
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15th September, 1589.
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The minutes of the synod say
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they've ordered
the Presbytery of Haddington,
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that's the local church committee
in Haddington,
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to summon before them Agnes Sampson,
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suspected of witchcraft.
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So here it is in black and white.
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On 15th September, 1589,
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we have the first reference
to Agnes Sampson
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in connection with witchcraft.
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This is a year before Agnes
was implicated
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in the North Berwick plot
to kill the king.
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It doesn't tell me
exactly what she's accused of,
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but we do know what happened next.
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By this time, the Scottish Church
368
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was in the hands of radical
Protestant reformers
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who'd been led by John Knox.
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Knox had wanted to create
a new godly state
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based on the pure message of the
Bible - obedience and discipline.
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Ushering in a new age
of religious puritanism in Scotland.
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CROW CAWS
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This is St Mary's Church
in Haddington.
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Both North Berwick
and Agnes' village of Keyth
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came under its jurisdiction.
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And it was here that church elders
first put Agnes under investigation
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as a suspected witch.
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Hello?
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And this church was at the forefront
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of the religious and moral reforms
sweeping the country.
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Hello. Will you be Stewart?
Hello. I'm Stewart, yes.
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It's really nice to meet you,
Stewart. Nice to meet you.
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Welcome to St Mary's.
Thank you for having me. Not at all.
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So, Stewart, what's your connection
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to this really huge
and beautiful church?
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Well, I'm a member of the church
and I'm also one of a team
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who guide visitors around
during our open season.
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And my late wife was a minister here
for ten years.
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Is that quite unusual, to be
a female minister in Scotland?
Not nowadays.
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There have been female ministers
in the Church of Scotland
for over 50 years.
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Mm-hm.
But it's relatively recent, yes.
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And my wife was the first one here.
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The first one here? A trailblazer!
Absolutely.
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Now, I know... Every historian
knows, that in the 16th century,
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the big thing that happens
in Scotland is the Reformation,
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which is led by John Knox.
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He's...he's a Haddington boy,
isn't he?
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Well, John Knox was born about
200 yards from where we're standing,
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on the other side of the river.
401
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And he was almost certainly baptised
in this church.
402
00:25:14,923 --> 00:25:17,323
Oh, wow! So this church...
403
00:25:17,323 --> 00:25:19,083
He was baptised here?
404
00:25:19,083 --> 00:25:22,483
This is right at the cutting edge
of the Reformation, then, this
place. Yes.
405
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And how would you characterise
this...
406
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..this Scottish Reformation religion
that John Knox was keen on?
407
00:25:29,043 --> 00:25:31,883
Of course, it was a much simpler,
stricter and very...
408
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In some ways, very harsh religion.
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So, what kind of behaviour
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did the Reformed Scottish Church
disapprove of?
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What we you might describe
as frivolous behaviour.
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Singing, dancing, drinking.
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And, of course, fornication.
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You could be called up in front
of the congregation
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if you're misbehaving in some way.
416
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And that's because the devil
is just around the corner
417
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and your soul is at risk of eternal
damnation if you step out of line.
418
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Yep. And John Knox
didn't approve of women, did he?
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Well, he didn't approve of women
being in positions of authority. Mm.
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So, if the new church did not like
to have women in positions of
authority,
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someone like Agnes,
who was a wise woman,
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who had the trust of the community,
423
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do you think maybe they felt
threatened by that?
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That's quite possible, yes.
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BELL TOLLS
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I wonder if Agnes was aware
427
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that she was being watched
by the church
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as she went about her business
as a midwife and a healer?
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It's starting to look like
there's no place
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in this new Protestant order
for women like her.
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She is a woman in a position
of authority.
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She's got this power of healing,
433
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people in the community trust her,
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need her, look up to her.
435
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Do the church authorities
feel a bit threatened by that?
436
00:26:55,603 --> 00:27:00,283
Agnes' fate now lay in the hands
of these fervent Protestants.
437
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And these religious leaders
were absorbing new ideas
438
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circulating in Europe
about the nature of witchcraft
439
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and how to deal with it.
440
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They were laid out in a book written
by two German Catholic theologians
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in the 15th century.
442
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This is a direct translation
443
00:27:20,803 --> 00:27:23,723
of a text that's more than
500 years old.
444
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It's called Malleus Maleficarum -
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the Hammer of Witches.
446
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And it's a sort of a...a manual
447
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of how to spot a witch
448
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and what sort of things
they're going to get up to.
449
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One of the things that pleases me
about the book
450
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is that it's a sort of series of,
um...questions and answers.
451
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Like a listicle that you might get
in a magazine.
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How are witches transported
from place to place?
453
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How do witches perform their spells?
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How is a formal pact with evil made?
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Central to this text
was the idea that witches
456
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were in cahoots
with a dangerous enemy, the devil.
457
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It's all part of a general
turning up of the temperature
458
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on religion in the 16th century.
459
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You've got new Protestants saying,
"No, this is the way to do
religion!"
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And you've got those Catholics,
who suddenly become a lot more
defensive,
461
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and they say, "No!
We feel under attack now.
462
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"This is the way to do religion."
463
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So that's why people
just start to think
464
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that it's a matter of life
and death, this.
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The devil is really wandering
around your church,
466
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tempting you, tempting your wife,
467
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and it's like the end of days.
468
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In the 16th century, everybody gets
utterly obsessed with the devil.
469
00:28:44,683 --> 00:28:47,403
Demonology books like this
made it clear
470
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the devil was specifically
recruiting women to do his evil
bidding.
471
00:28:53,323 --> 00:28:56,763
Why is it that more witches
are female than men?
472
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I'm quite interested in what
they're going to say about that.
473
00:29:00,323 --> 00:29:03,843
Well, it's basically because of
the wickedness of women,
474
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as spoken of in the Bible.
475
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In Ecclesiasticus 25 -
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"There is no wrath
above the wrath of a woman!
477
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"I had rather dwell with a lion
and a dragon
478
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"than to keep house
with a wicked woman."
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"All witchcraft comes from
carnal lust.
480
00:29:24,883 --> 00:29:28,563
"Which is, in women, insatiable."
481
00:29:28,563 --> 00:29:32,803
And that's why the devil's able
to recruit them more easily.
482
00:29:32,803 --> 00:29:34,923
They're so desperate
to fill their wombs
483
00:29:34,923 --> 00:29:37,683
that they will consort
even with devils.
484
00:29:37,683 --> 00:29:40,243
If there aren't enough men
to go around, devils will do.
485
00:29:41,803 --> 00:29:47,363
"The witches meet together
in conclave on a set day.
486
00:29:47,363 --> 00:29:50,883
"And the devil appears to them
487
00:29:50,883 --> 00:29:53,843
"in the assumed body of a man."
488
00:29:53,843 --> 00:29:57,243
And he says to them, "Look,
if you have sex with me, ladies,
489
00:29:57,243 --> 00:30:00,243
"I will give you long life.
That is the deal!"
490
00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:06,163
And this witch is showing
her allegiance to the devil
491
00:30:06,163 --> 00:30:08,483
by kissing his backside.
492
00:30:08,483 --> 00:30:10,363
LUCY LAUGHS
493
00:30:11,443 --> 00:30:13,723
Oh, dear!
494
00:30:13,723 --> 00:30:16,963
What has surprised me,
reading through this book,
495
00:30:16,963 --> 00:30:20,003
and I really wasn't aware of this,
496
00:30:20,003 --> 00:30:25,123
was just how much witchcraft and sex
seemed to be mixed up together.
497
00:30:25,123 --> 00:30:28,723
Fear about sexual matters
and the lust of women
498
00:30:28,723 --> 00:30:31,843
seems to be absolutely fundamental.
499
00:30:31,843 --> 00:30:36,723
Now, this brings to life the devil
500
00:30:36,723 --> 00:30:39,923
having his meeting with all
the witches who were in his power.
501
00:30:39,923 --> 00:30:44,363
So that's like our coven of witches
meeting in the church
in North Berwick.
502
00:30:44,363 --> 00:30:47,963
Here's the devil, sitting on
his throne, with his horns.
503
00:30:47,963 --> 00:30:51,883
And this witch here,
she's got her fire and her cauldron.
504
00:30:51,883 --> 00:30:54,163
Look, she's putting in little cats,
I think.
505
00:30:54,163 --> 00:30:57,803
Oh, and look, here's a witch
taking off on her broomstick.
506
00:30:57,803 --> 00:31:01,243
I like the way that the things
that witches used for their magic,
507
00:31:01,243 --> 00:31:05,603
cauldrons, broomsticks,
um...cats, even,
508
00:31:05,603 --> 00:31:07,923
are just...just things
from around the house.
509
00:31:07,923 --> 00:31:10,443
They're ordinary, domestic things.
510
00:31:10,443 --> 00:31:12,683
And the things that women would use,
not men.
511
00:31:19,763 --> 00:31:21,443
So, poor Agnes!
512
00:31:21,443 --> 00:31:25,163
She's had the bad luck to be born
at a really bad time.
513
00:31:26,443 --> 00:31:29,363
For over 100 years now,
this conspiracy theory,
514
00:31:29,363 --> 00:31:33,163
kicked off by theologians,
has been growing in power.
515
00:31:33,163 --> 00:31:35,803
People now genuinely believe
516
00:31:35,803 --> 00:31:38,563
that witches are largely female,
517
00:31:38,563 --> 00:31:40,683
that they gather in groups,
518
00:31:40,683 --> 00:31:44,883
that they have this kinky
sexual pact with the devil,
519
00:31:44,883 --> 00:31:47,003
and that their number is growing.
520
00:31:47,003 --> 00:31:49,203
More and more witches
are being recruited.
521
00:31:49,203 --> 00:31:52,003
So, what are the authorities
going to do
522
00:31:52,003 --> 00:31:54,883
to deal with these wicked women?
523
00:31:57,603 --> 00:32:00,723
For centuries, accusations
of witchcraft
524
00:32:00,723 --> 00:32:04,003
had largely been settled
within the local community.
525
00:32:06,043 --> 00:32:09,163
But now, driven by Protestantism
526
00:32:09,163 --> 00:32:12,003
that cast witches
as the devil's agents,
527
00:32:12,003 --> 00:32:15,683
the authorities had to crack down.
528
00:32:15,683 --> 00:32:21,763
Well, this is the
Scottish Witchcraft Act.
529
00:32:21,763 --> 00:32:27,563
So this act was drawn up by
Scotland's Protestant Reformers.
530
00:32:27,563 --> 00:32:30,443
John Knox may even have had a hand
in it.
531
00:32:30,443 --> 00:32:33,563
It is statute and ordained
532
00:32:33,563 --> 00:32:37,203
that no manner of person or persons,
533
00:32:37,203 --> 00:32:40,163
of whatever estate, degree
or condition,
534
00:32:40,163 --> 00:32:42,803
is to use any manner of witchcraft.
535
00:32:42,803 --> 00:32:45,483
And if you do do that,
536
00:32:45,483 --> 00:32:47,643
they'll be under pain of death.
537
00:32:47,643 --> 00:32:49,923
It actually says
under the pain of "deid".
538
00:32:49,923 --> 00:32:52,803
That means death.
You will be killed.
539
00:32:52,803 --> 00:32:57,283
It has become a capital offence
for the first time.
540
00:32:59,323 --> 00:33:02,683
So the act is really clear
that the whole weight of the law
541
00:33:02,683 --> 00:33:05,763
is going to come down on anybody
doing witchcraft.
542
00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:11,203
But there's a... It seems to me
there's a huge problem here.
543
00:33:11,203 --> 00:33:15,243
It doesn't actually
say what witchcraft is!
544
00:33:15,243 --> 00:33:19,323
So witchcraft is open
to interpretation.
545
00:33:19,323 --> 00:33:22,123
And that means the law is open
to interpretation.
546
00:33:22,123 --> 00:33:24,443
And that seems to me
to be very dangerous.
547
00:33:25,963 --> 00:33:30,243
The Witchcraft Act
put in place a legal framework
548
00:33:30,243 --> 00:33:32,843
for the prosecution of witches.
549
00:33:32,843 --> 00:33:34,963
Now, if enough evidence
could be gathered,
550
00:33:34,963 --> 00:33:38,443
a suspected witch could be tried
in the courts
551
00:33:38,443 --> 00:33:40,643
and sentenced to death.
552
00:33:40,643 --> 00:33:42,203
GULLS CRY
553
00:33:48,963 --> 00:33:53,123
By autumn 1590, the church elders
in Haddington
554
00:33:53,123 --> 00:33:56,883
had been investigating and building
a case against Agnes
555
00:33:56,883 --> 00:33:58,603
for more than a year.
556
00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:03,963
I'm told that very few witch-trial
documents still exist,
557
00:34:03,963 --> 00:34:07,963
but remarkably,
Agnes' have survived.
558
00:34:09,163 --> 00:34:13,083
I can't access the originals
in the National Records of Scotland,
559
00:34:13,083 --> 00:34:16,843
but the History Centre in Haddington
has a copy.
560
00:34:18,723 --> 00:34:22,563
Incredibly, they include
detailed transcripts
561
00:34:22,563 --> 00:34:24,363
of the evidence against Agnes.
562
00:34:25,523 --> 00:34:29,483
It says here - Here follows
the articles of her "dittay"...
563
00:34:30,563 --> 00:34:32,723
..whereof she was convicted
564
00:34:32,723 --> 00:34:35,603
by number 53!
565
00:34:35,603 --> 00:34:37,923
Now, a dittay,
566
00:34:37,923 --> 00:34:41,003
it's from the French,
dittay meaning said.
567
00:34:41,003 --> 00:34:43,003
These are the things
that were said against her,
568
00:34:43,003 --> 00:34:44,723
and there were 53 charges.
569
00:34:44,723 --> 00:34:46,883
That's quite a lot, isn't it?
570
00:34:46,883 --> 00:34:50,963
OK. Here, she's charged with using
of witchcraft in healing
571
00:34:50,963 --> 00:34:54,163
of John Thompson in "Dirletoune",
572
00:34:54,163 --> 00:34:55,843
who remained...
573
00:34:57,283 --> 00:34:59,003
Oh, I see what she's done.
574
00:34:59,003 --> 00:35:03,483
She's... She used witchcraft to heal
John Thompson,
575
00:35:03,483 --> 00:35:06,363
but he remained "crepill",
that's crippled,
576
00:35:06,363 --> 00:35:08,843
notwithstanding thereof.
577
00:35:08,843 --> 00:35:12,203
I can see that if you'd...you'd
booked Agnes to heal you
578
00:35:12,203 --> 00:35:14,443
and then it failed,
579
00:35:14,443 --> 00:35:16,563
then he'd want his money back,
wouldn't he?
580
00:35:16,563 --> 00:35:22,003
You might be so cross that you
reported her to the authorities.
581
00:35:22,003 --> 00:35:23,603
Let's have a look at this one.
582
00:35:23,603 --> 00:35:27,643
Item - for coming to
Bessie Aitkenhead
583
00:35:27,643 --> 00:35:32,363
and using her prayer
and devilish charms
584
00:35:32,363 --> 00:35:35,003
for the recovering of her health
to her.
585
00:35:35,003 --> 00:35:37,163
Well, here's someone who's pleased.
586
00:35:37,163 --> 00:35:43,003
Betty...Bessie...Aitkenhead
has been cured.
587
00:35:43,003 --> 00:35:45,923
So when I look at the list of people
who've been
588
00:35:45,923 --> 00:35:50,523
either cured or not cured by Agnes,
589
00:35:50,523 --> 00:35:53,203
it's a bit confusing, cos you
can't see what the problem is.
590
00:35:53,203 --> 00:35:57,563
She's sort of going about
her business as a healer.
591
00:35:57,563 --> 00:36:00,483
But perhaps the problem is
592
00:36:00,483 --> 00:36:03,963
that this old, traditional way
of doing things, of healing people,
593
00:36:03,963 --> 00:36:06,083
has now become suspicious
594
00:36:06,083 --> 00:36:08,963
because people are increasingly
worried about witches.
595
00:36:08,963 --> 00:36:13,683
There's a lot of talk here
about witchcraft and prayers...
596
00:36:13,683 --> 00:36:15,243
..to the devil.
597
00:36:15,243 --> 00:36:19,203
I mean, I cannot know whether
all of these people,
598
00:36:19,203 --> 00:36:21,043
who were Agnes' clients,
599
00:36:21,043 --> 00:36:24,003
whether they really said
these things,
600
00:36:24,003 --> 00:36:28,363
or were these important people who
were determined to catch a witch,
601
00:36:28,363 --> 00:36:31,803
were they taking the evidence
and twisting it
602
00:36:31,803 --> 00:36:34,683
and putting on this whole
witchy layer?
603
00:36:34,683 --> 00:36:37,243
There's much to question
about this document,
604
00:36:37,243 --> 00:36:42,883
but it does offer a tantalising
glimpse of Agnes herself.
605
00:36:42,883 --> 00:36:46,163
We're told that she's a widow
and has children,
606
00:36:46,163 --> 00:36:50,163
and that she learnt her folk-healing
skills from her father.
607
00:36:50,163 --> 00:36:54,083
So I love the way that hidden
within this formal document
608
00:36:54,083 --> 00:36:57,243
written by men who had it in for
Agnes,
609
00:36:57,243 --> 00:37:00,403
we're actually meeting
the real person.
610
00:37:01,923 --> 00:37:05,083
And then, here...
Now, this is really extraordinary.
611
00:37:07,203 --> 00:37:10,723
Because this is just
what you don't normally get.
612
00:37:10,723 --> 00:37:14,963
You do not normally get
the recorded words of somebody
613
00:37:14,963 --> 00:37:19,563
living in a tiny village
in remote Scotland
614
00:37:19,563 --> 00:37:22,323
in the 1590s.
615
00:37:22,323 --> 00:37:25,843
That's not somebody that we normally
hear from in history.
616
00:37:27,523 --> 00:37:30,603
But here, we do,
because recorded here
617
00:37:30,603 --> 00:37:35,163
are the words to Agnes' prayer
to her patients
618
00:37:35,163 --> 00:37:37,363
for life or death.
619
00:37:37,363 --> 00:37:41,123
All kinds of ills that ever may be
620
00:37:41,123 --> 00:37:45,763
In Christ's name, I conjure thee.
621
00:37:47,243 --> 00:37:48,923
I conjure thee...
622
00:37:48,923 --> 00:37:51,843
..Both more and less
with all the virtues of the Mass
623
00:37:51,843 --> 00:37:54,563
And right so the nails sore
624
00:37:54,563 --> 00:37:57,443
That nailed Jesus and no more.
625
00:37:57,443 --> 00:38:00,483
And right so the same blood
626
00:38:00,483 --> 00:38:03,283
That reeked over the ruthful rood.
627
00:38:03,283 --> 00:38:05,803
Forth of the flesh
and forth of the bone
628
00:38:05,803 --> 00:38:08,523
And in the earth and in the stone,
629
00:38:08,523 --> 00:38:11,043
I conjure thee in God's name.
630
00:38:13,043 --> 00:38:15,883
These are supposed to be
her very words.
631
00:38:15,883 --> 00:38:17,603
It's like she's speaking to us.
632
00:38:22,723 --> 00:38:25,003
It gives a wonderful,
tingly feeling.
633
00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:28,483
This is...this is...this is
why we do this,
634
00:38:28,483 --> 00:38:30,763
to bring people back from the dead.
635
00:38:32,283 --> 00:38:34,083
But one thing is clear,
636
00:38:34,083 --> 00:38:38,123
even if some of Agnes' clients were
grateful for her powers of healing,
637
00:38:38,123 --> 00:38:41,803
and even if she claimed
that her prayer was to God,
638
00:38:41,803 --> 00:38:45,163
the authorities were intent
on painting her as a witch
639
00:38:45,163 --> 00:38:46,763
in league with the devil.
640
00:38:48,643 --> 00:38:51,963
And there's something else in here
that's really intriguing.
641
00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:58,043
People are summoning her
from far and wide.
642
00:38:58,043 --> 00:39:01,803
And it's not just villagers
who are after her services,
it's...it's the toffs.
643
00:39:01,803 --> 00:39:04,163
Posh people are after her, too.
644
00:39:05,323 --> 00:39:08,923
Perhaps her far-reaching reputation
as a healer
645
00:39:08,923 --> 00:39:12,843
helps explain why, when the king
was looking for a scapegoat
646
00:39:12,843 --> 00:39:15,283
for the storms that beset his ship,
647
00:39:15,283 --> 00:39:18,923
Agnes Sampson was a ready name
on people's lips.
648
00:39:23,523 --> 00:39:26,563
In late autumn 1590,
649
00:39:26,563 --> 00:39:31,003
just weeks after the alleged
witches' gathering at North Berwick,
650
00:39:31,003 --> 00:39:33,363
Agnes was arrested,
651
00:39:33,363 --> 00:39:36,003
taken to Edinburgh and imprisoned.
652
00:39:37,203 --> 00:39:42,043
And in early December, she was
brought here to be interrogated.
653
00:39:44,123 --> 00:39:47,523
This is the Palace of Holyroodhouse.
654
00:39:47,523 --> 00:39:51,563
This was the home of King James VI.
655
00:39:51,563 --> 00:39:55,523
This part of the palace here
has been altered,
656
00:39:55,523 --> 00:40:00,083
but this part is the original palace
that Agnes would have seen.
657
00:40:00,083 --> 00:40:04,083
She would have set eyes on these two
658
00:40:04,083 --> 00:40:07,323
rather sinister-looking turrets.
659
00:40:07,323 --> 00:40:11,923
So I really am walking in
Agnes' footsteps at this moment.
660
00:40:27,683 --> 00:40:32,683
This is the actual chamber
in which James VI received visitors.
661
00:40:32,683 --> 00:40:35,003
His bedchamber is just through
there.
662
00:40:35,003 --> 00:40:39,843
And it was here, in this room,
to the best of our knowledge,
663
00:40:39,843 --> 00:40:43,883
that Agnes came face-to-face
with the king.
664
00:40:47,483 --> 00:40:50,443
What an extraordinary encounter.
665
00:40:51,683 --> 00:40:55,683
A woman from a tiny rural village
brought before the king.
666
00:40:57,443 --> 00:41:00,683
A Protestant monarch determined
to prove he had the power
667
00:41:00,683 --> 00:41:02,403
to drive out the devil.
668
00:41:03,683 --> 00:41:07,043
So, what on earth happened
in this room?
669
00:41:09,203 --> 00:41:11,643
News From Scotland
offers this account...
670
00:41:13,043 --> 00:41:17,603
Agnes Sampson was brought here
to Holyroodhouse
671
00:41:17,603 --> 00:41:20,763
before the king's majestry
672
00:41:20,763 --> 00:41:23,203
and sundry other of the nobility of
Scotland.
673
00:41:23,203 --> 00:41:27,843
But it says here, she stood stiffly
in the denial
674
00:41:27,843 --> 00:41:31,323
of all that was laid to her charge.
So she stood up to them!
675
00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:33,083
This is a fearsome situation,
676
00:41:33,083 --> 00:41:36,443
to be questioned by the king himself
in his royal palace,
677
00:41:36,443 --> 00:41:39,363
but she wasn't giving way an inch.
678
00:41:41,443 --> 00:41:46,043
Despite this, at some point,
Agnes cracked and confessed.
679
00:41:52,443 --> 00:41:55,363
It's chilling to realise
that all the detail
680
00:41:55,363 --> 00:41:58,843
of what happened in North Berwick,
as recounted in News From Scotland,
681
00:41:58,843 --> 00:42:01,763
actually comes from the confession
682
00:42:01,763 --> 00:42:06,443
Agnes made right here
in Holyrood Palace.
683
00:42:06,443 --> 00:42:10,403
It was Agnes who said
200 witches gathered together
684
00:42:10,403 --> 00:42:13,043
and used a dead man
and a christened cat
685
00:42:13,043 --> 00:42:16,243
to raise the storm
that almost killed the king.
686
00:42:16,243 --> 00:42:18,643
This is her story.
687
00:42:19,643 --> 00:42:22,643
But why would she say
all these things?
688
00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:26,603
Reading on, I think I can see why.
689
00:42:26,603 --> 00:42:30,763
Agnes Sampson had all her hair
shaven off
690
00:42:30,763 --> 00:42:33,283
in each part of her body
691
00:42:33,283 --> 00:42:36,683
and her head thrawn with a rope.
692
00:42:36,683 --> 00:42:40,323
But during this time,
she would not confess anything,
693
00:42:40,323 --> 00:42:44,883
until the devil's mark
was found upon her privities.
694
00:42:48,243 --> 00:42:51,963
Now, to my mind,
this is...this is torture
695
00:42:51,963 --> 00:42:56,803
of a really horrible sexual nature.
696
00:42:59,203 --> 00:43:01,123
It's a sort of a sexual assault.
697
00:43:03,843 --> 00:43:07,563
And then, when this happened,
when they did this to her,
698
00:43:07,563 --> 00:43:12,403
she immediately confessed
whatsoever was demanded of her.
699
00:43:14,043 --> 00:43:17,643
And...goodness me,
I'd do exactly the same thing.
700
00:43:17,643 --> 00:43:19,283
Poor Agnes.
701
00:43:21,763 --> 00:43:26,563
It's hard to be sure whether these
descriptions of torture are true.
702
00:43:26,563 --> 00:43:31,163
Was this the sort of treatment
inflicted on women like Agnes?
703
00:43:37,563 --> 00:43:42,283
To find out, I'm travelling
to Forfar, just north of Dundee.
704
00:43:43,603 --> 00:43:47,603
When a witch-hunt happened here
in the 1660s,
705
00:43:47,603 --> 00:43:53,243
more than 50 women were accused
from this small town, alone.
706
00:43:53,243 --> 00:43:56,363
Ah! It's Judith! Hello!
707
00:43:56,363 --> 00:43:59,723
I meet you in the flesh at last!
I know.
708
00:43:59,723 --> 00:44:03,443
One local historian has been doing
ground-breaking research
709
00:44:03,443 --> 00:44:07,283
into the experiences of these
so-called witches.
710
00:44:07,283 --> 00:44:11,683
She's uncovered shocking new
evidence of their interrogation
711
00:44:11,683 --> 00:44:14,643
from unlikely historical documents -
712
00:44:14,643 --> 00:44:17,883
the town's financial records.
713
00:44:17,883 --> 00:44:22,643
Accounts of the town officials
sounds a bit dull.
714
00:44:22,643 --> 00:44:24,003
LUCY CHUCKLES
715
00:44:24,003 --> 00:44:26,563
Yes, it does, if you...
716
00:44:26,563 --> 00:44:29,363
if you don't realise
what's going on.
717
00:44:29,363 --> 00:44:32,323
And what's going on in Forfar
at that time
718
00:44:32,323 --> 00:44:35,003
is a witch-hunt
that's been described as
719
00:44:35,003 --> 00:44:37,083
being like no other in Scotland.
720
00:44:37,083 --> 00:44:39,163
And when you follow the money,
721
00:44:39,163 --> 00:44:41,243
you find some really interesting
things.
722
00:44:42,563 --> 00:44:46,363
OK, on the first page,
the first section
723
00:44:46,363 --> 00:44:49,123
that you examine here
of Girsell Simpson.
724
00:44:49,123 --> 00:44:51,003
She was a suspected witch.
725
00:44:51,003 --> 00:44:56,363
But she was arrested
and she was put in the tollbooth.
726
00:44:56,363 --> 00:44:59,803
It says - An item to Andrew Taylor
727
00:44:59,803 --> 00:45:02,723
foreclosing of the high tollbooth
yay time,
728
00:45:02,723 --> 00:45:05,083
that Girsell Simpson was therein
729
00:45:05,083 --> 00:45:07,763
and foretaking down of them again.
730
00:45:07,763 --> 00:45:11,483
Oh! So, when the suspected witch
was in the prison,
731
00:45:11,483 --> 00:45:13,483
they closed up the windows... Yep.
732
00:45:13,483 --> 00:45:16,203
..and then, when she had been
executed,
733
00:45:16,203 --> 00:45:18,643
they opened up the windows again.
That's right.
734
00:45:18,643 --> 00:45:22,003
And that would be to keep her
in the dark?
735
00:45:22,003 --> 00:45:24,043
Well, it's the devil,
and you don't want the devil
736
00:45:24,043 --> 00:45:26,403
cursing the people in the street
when they walk by. Wow!
737
00:45:26,403 --> 00:45:28,083
Oh, look at this!
738
00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:32,683
For the making of two pairs
of stocks for the witches. Oh, yes.
739
00:45:32,683 --> 00:45:34,603
The stocks are really interesting,
740
00:45:34,603 --> 00:45:37,163
cos stocks sound like
they're quite innocent.
741
00:45:37,163 --> 00:45:39,963
You know, we have images of people
in stocks outside.
742
00:45:39,963 --> 00:45:42,483
Being hung up like this and people
throw eggs at them. Yeah.
743
00:45:42,483 --> 00:45:44,043
That's not what's happening here.
744
00:45:44,043 --> 00:45:48,403
In Scotland at the time, stocks
were used on the accused witches
745
00:45:48,403 --> 00:45:50,043
as a form of torture.
746
00:45:50,043 --> 00:45:55,163
It says here that candles
are bought for those who did watch
747
00:45:55,163 --> 00:45:57,523
Girsell Simpson,
who's the suspected witch.
748
00:45:57,523 --> 00:46:00,043
What does that mean, to watch her,
do you think?
749
00:46:00,043 --> 00:46:02,123
Watching usually comes with waking.
750
00:46:02,123 --> 00:46:05,763
So watching and waking
was a form of torture in itself.
751
00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:07,323
It's sleep deprivation.
752
00:46:07,323 --> 00:46:10,323
Later on, we'll see that there...
753
00:46:10,323 --> 00:46:13,123
..there are other prisoners in.
They're male prisoners,
754
00:46:13,123 --> 00:46:15,843
and they're murderers,
and they're not being watched.
755
00:46:15,843 --> 00:46:18,683
There's no candles being paid for
for them.
756
00:46:18,683 --> 00:46:22,723
Mm! So, the suspected witch is
treated worse than the murderers?
757
00:46:22,723 --> 00:46:24,723
Yes. Wow! Absolutely.
758
00:46:24,723 --> 00:46:27,403
These women, they're a danger
759
00:46:27,403 --> 00:46:30,523
because they endangered
the whole of society.
760
00:46:30,523 --> 00:46:34,083
Yeah. They put the idea of
the godly society at risk.
761
00:46:35,403 --> 00:46:39,123
If you go down to 13th September...
Yes.
762
00:46:39,123 --> 00:46:43,243
..John Kincaid and David Cowan
come to Forfar.
763
00:46:43,243 --> 00:46:45,883
So John Kincaid is the famous
witch-pricker.
764
00:46:46,923 --> 00:46:49,283
The witch-pricker. Yeah.
765
00:46:49,283 --> 00:46:53,323
That's a very resonant phrase.
What exactly does that mean?
766
00:46:53,323 --> 00:46:56,483
Well, they pay for two...trois
preens for him.
767
00:46:56,483 --> 00:47:01,763
Here it is. This...this is
the purchase of two preens
768
00:47:01,763 --> 00:47:04,123
for the pricking of
Catherine Porter.
769
00:47:04,123 --> 00:47:05,923
Preens are pins.
770
00:47:05,923 --> 00:47:10,523
They're made of iron and they're
usually about three inches long.
771
00:47:10,523 --> 00:47:13,003
Or some people would say...
Three inches? Yeah.
772
00:47:13,003 --> 00:47:16,323
Oh, not tiny little dressmaking
pins, big...? Big pins.
773
00:47:16,323 --> 00:47:20,123
And what ex...? Why...why do they
want to stick these pins
774
00:47:20,123 --> 00:47:21,843
into the suspected witch?
775
00:47:21,843 --> 00:47:23,603
They're trying to find
the devil's mark.
776
00:47:23,603 --> 00:47:26,323
What's that? It was usually
thought to be a blue mark.
777
00:47:26,323 --> 00:47:29,523
It could be a mole, it could be
an extra nipple, it could be scars.
778
00:47:29,523 --> 00:47:33,443
Anything that they thought
was unusual on a woman's body
779
00:47:33,443 --> 00:47:36,523
that doesn't respond to pain
or it doesn't bleed.
780
00:47:36,523 --> 00:47:38,683
That was evidence, pure and simple,
781
00:47:38,683 --> 00:47:41,363
that you had convened with
the devil.
782
00:47:41,363 --> 00:47:45,443
So what they would do was, they
would...they would shave the woman,
783
00:47:45,443 --> 00:47:47,563
they would shave all her hair,
784
00:47:47,563 --> 00:47:50,123
and they would...
She would be naked.
785
00:47:50,123 --> 00:47:53,763
She's in front of a panel of men.
786
00:47:53,763 --> 00:47:59,563
She's having these pins stuck in
all over her body.
787
00:47:59,563 --> 00:48:02,363
And they would prick people
for hours.
788
00:48:02,363 --> 00:48:05,243
There's mention in one of
the Privy Council documents
789
00:48:05,243 --> 00:48:08,363
of a woman dying from
witch-pricking.
790
00:48:08,363 --> 00:48:10,883
It's...it's a really...
791
00:48:10,883 --> 00:48:14,763
It's...it's a horrible psychosexual
form of torture. Absolutely.
792
00:48:14,763 --> 00:48:18,083
What really shocks me, Judith,
is that the evidence is here.
793
00:48:18,083 --> 00:48:20,763
That they've recorded it
for us to see. Indeed.
794
00:48:20,763 --> 00:48:23,043
When I read these
treasurers' accounts,
795
00:48:23,043 --> 00:48:25,203
and I've read them many times,
796
00:48:25,203 --> 00:48:29,323
the hairs never cease to stand up
on the back of my neck. Um...
797
00:48:29,323 --> 00:48:33,363
And I think, how could they
have treated people like this?
798
00:48:33,363 --> 00:48:36,003
And then, you have to remember
what they had in their mind.
799
00:48:36,003 --> 00:48:39,083
And in their mind,
they were absolutely convinced
800
00:48:39,083 --> 00:48:40,923
that they were not people.
801
00:48:40,923 --> 00:48:43,243
You know... They were devils.
Yeah. Inhuman.
802
00:48:43,243 --> 00:48:44,643
They are the devil.
803
00:48:44,643 --> 00:48:48,563
How long have you been trawling
through all of these records,
Judith?
804
00:48:48,563 --> 00:48:50,803
About ten years. Oh, wow!
805
00:48:50,803 --> 00:48:52,603
At least ten years.
806
00:48:52,603 --> 00:48:56,123
And what...what motivates you
to do this?
807
00:48:56,123 --> 00:48:58,403
Well, erm...
808
00:48:58,403 --> 00:49:00,603
..one, it's just so
incredibly interesting,
809
00:49:00,603 --> 00:49:04,323
and two, there's the real sense
of injustice.
810
00:49:07,883 --> 00:49:12,443
Judith's research shows how
the authorities devised a system
811
00:49:12,443 --> 00:49:15,203
for rooting-out witches.
812
00:49:15,203 --> 00:49:20,203
Torture was an acceptable means
to elicit a confession.
813
00:49:20,203 --> 00:49:24,403
And the so-called devil's mark,
which wasn't too hard to find,
814
00:49:24,403 --> 00:49:26,483
provided undeniable proof.
815
00:49:27,603 --> 00:49:29,443
Under this kind of duress,
816
00:49:29,443 --> 00:49:33,723
in December 1590,
Agnes made her confession.
817
00:49:37,443 --> 00:49:41,403
Remarkably, the National Records
of Scotland holds an account
818
00:49:41,403 --> 00:49:46,323
of what was said
during Agnes' actual interrogation.
819
00:49:46,323 --> 00:49:49,923
It also offers clues as to why
Agnes' case
820
00:49:49,923 --> 00:49:53,443
triggered a craze for witch-hunts
across the country.
821
00:49:55,043 --> 00:49:56,923
Is this word-for-word, then?
822
00:49:56,923 --> 00:49:59,203
Was there someone in the room
making notes?
823
00:49:59,203 --> 00:50:00,683
How was it put together?
824
00:50:00,683 --> 00:50:02,603
This has been written up afterwards.
825
00:50:02,603 --> 00:50:05,323
There was probably a scribe
in the room at the time
826
00:50:05,323 --> 00:50:07,363
jotting down a few things,
827
00:50:07,363 --> 00:50:11,123
but this isn't a transcript
of her actual words,
828
00:50:11,123 --> 00:50:13,923
this is a summary
in the third person.
829
00:50:13,923 --> 00:50:16,283
You know...you know,
"She confessed that...
830
00:50:16,283 --> 00:50:18,043
"She denied that..."
831
00:50:18,043 --> 00:50:20,083
Um...and so on.
832
00:50:20,083 --> 00:50:23,163
And we see breaks in the document,
where,
833
00:50:23,163 --> 00:50:26,723
perhaps she was tortured.
It's hard to tell.
834
00:50:26,723 --> 00:50:29,003
We do know in general terms
that she was tortured.
835
00:50:29,003 --> 00:50:32,443
And we can see this text
as a kind of negotiation,
836
00:50:32,443 --> 00:50:35,763
because Agnes probably didn't know
anything about those storms
at the time,
837
00:50:35,763 --> 00:50:37,563
but they're asking her about it,
838
00:50:37,563 --> 00:50:40,203
so she knows she can't
just remain silent,
839
00:50:40,203 --> 00:50:43,203
she has to tell a story,
otherwise she'll get tortured more.
840
00:50:43,203 --> 00:50:45,363
Do you think that the interrogators
were asking
841
00:50:45,363 --> 00:50:48,403
what we might call leading questions
to get a particular answer?
842
00:50:48,403 --> 00:50:51,843
Oh, undoubtedly, yes. You know,
"Tell us about when you met the
devil".
843
00:50:51,843 --> 00:50:54,643
And, "How does one worship
the devil?"
844
00:50:54,643 --> 00:50:59,243
And so, one of the things
that witches do
845
00:50:59,243 --> 00:51:03,883
is that they kiss the devil's arse.
846
00:51:03,883 --> 00:51:07,483
That is... Does it say that
in her confession? Yes.
847
00:51:07,483 --> 00:51:10,483
Before they departed,
they all kissed his arse.
848
00:51:10,483 --> 00:51:14,403
That almost certainly comes from
a leading question from somebody
849
00:51:14,403 --> 00:51:17,643
who has come across
the European learned idea
850
00:51:17,643 --> 00:51:19,603
of how witches worship the devil.
851
00:51:19,603 --> 00:51:21,443
And Agnes has been made to say it.
852
00:51:21,443 --> 00:51:24,963
If people torture you enough,
you do get so confused
853
00:51:24,963 --> 00:51:27,243
that you lose confidence
in your own memory
854
00:51:27,243 --> 00:51:30,603
and you start thinking,
"The interrogators are right
855
00:51:30,603 --> 00:51:32,883
"and perhaps I am a witch
after all".
856
00:51:32,883 --> 00:51:34,723
That's awful. They're breaking her
body
857
00:51:34,723 --> 00:51:37,243
but also her mind at the same time.
Yeah, I'm afraid so. Yeah.
858
00:51:37,243 --> 00:51:39,243
It seems to me that
they're fitting her up.
859
00:51:39,243 --> 00:51:42,203
You certainly could say that. I
mean, they're doing it unwittingly.
860
00:51:42,203 --> 00:51:44,523
They're terrifyingly sincere,
these guys.
861
00:51:44,523 --> 00:51:46,643
You know, they think
they're getting the truth.
862
00:51:46,643 --> 00:51:49,803
They are trying to save themselves
and everybody
863
00:51:49,803 --> 00:51:52,243
from the terrifying power
of the devil.
864
00:51:52,243 --> 00:51:54,923
And, you know, it...it certainly,
865
00:51:54,923 --> 00:51:57,243
by this time,
has become a conspiracy.
866
00:51:57,243 --> 00:52:00,163
They...they think it isn't just
one witch, you know,
867
00:52:00,163 --> 00:52:01,963
it's a group who has done this.
868
00:52:01,963 --> 00:52:07,563
And this is what the elite
understand that witches will do.
869
00:52:07,563 --> 00:52:09,083
They will gather in groups.
870
00:52:09,083 --> 00:52:13,323
So they're asking Agnes, you know,
"Who else was there?"
871
00:52:13,323 --> 00:52:17,483
Whether these were names that she
gave, or names that were fed to her
872
00:52:17,483 --> 00:52:20,803
and then she repeated,
you can't always tell.
873
00:52:20,803 --> 00:52:23,403
You ask for names of accomplices
874
00:52:23,403 --> 00:52:25,363
and you get a sort of
snowball effect.
875
00:52:25,363 --> 00:52:29,283
And once you've got one witch,
you can then go to another
and another and another
876
00:52:29,283 --> 00:52:32,523
and, you know, the snowball can go
on getting larger
877
00:52:32,523 --> 00:52:34,043
until everyone's sick of it.
878
00:52:34,043 --> 00:52:37,123
How many people eventually
get pulled into the whole thing?
879
00:52:37,123 --> 00:52:41,803
How many people, ultimately, is one
of the very difficult questions
to answer.
880
00:52:41,803 --> 00:52:44,803
Almost certainly dozens,
probably hundreds.
881
00:52:44,803 --> 00:52:47,243
But, you know, many of the records
have disappeared.
882
00:52:47,243 --> 00:52:50,643
It's very hard to put numbers on it,
for that reason.
883
00:52:50,643 --> 00:52:55,043
Julian, why is the North Berwick
witch-hunt, in particular, so
important?
884
00:52:55,043 --> 00:52:58,843
There have been earlier trials
with individual witches,
885
00:52:58,843 --> 00:53:02,243
but they never get into
large numbers.
886
00:53:02,243 --> 00:53:04,403
They don't manage to interrogate
them properly
887
00:53:04,403 --> 00:53:06,163
and it all fizzles out.
888
00:53:06,163 --> 00:53:09,083
This is the first big,
successful one
889
00:53:09,083 --> 00:53:13,003
where we see the witch-hunters
really working out how to do it.
890
00:53:13,003 --> 00:53:15,203
So this provides a sort of blueprint
891
00:53:15,203 --> 00:53:18,843
for how to have what you might call
a successful witchcraft panic
892
00:53:18,843 --> 00:53:21,683
that actually leads to large numbers
of executions.
893
00:53:21,683 --> 00:53:25,643
And versions of that
then get repeated time and again
894
00:53:25,643 --> 00:53:28,363
over the next 100 years or
so in Scotland.
895
00:53:28,363 --> 00:53:30,003
SOMBRE STRING RECITAL
896
00:53:33,563 --> 00:53:38,243
What's so horrifying is that
clearly, if you torture someone,
897
00:53:38,243 --> 00:53:41,083
they'll say anything
to make it stop.
898
00:53:41,083 --> 00:53:44,723
It's this that made Agnes
into a witch.
899
00:53:46,403 --> 00:53:49,203
And, in a final tragic irony,
900
00:53:49,203 --> 00:53:52,523
offer up the names of 59
other people, too,
901
00:53:52,523 --> 00:53:55,443
who'd go on to face the same fate.
902
00:53:56,563 --> 00:53:58,083
But here's the problem -
903
00:53:58,083 --> 00:54:02,723
she's now officially confessed
to causing storms
904
00:54:02,723 --> 00:54:05,003
and to conspiring to kill the king.
905
00:54:10,443 --> 00:54:13,603
Six weeks after her confession,
906
00:54:13,603 --> 00:54:15,763
Agnes was put on trial in Edinburgh.
907
00:54:17,603 --> 00:54:21,483
The building Agnes' trial took place
in stood right here.
908
00:54:21,483 --> 00:54:24,843
It was in the shadow of
the great cathedral.
909
00:54:24,843 --> 00:54:29,723
She would have been the only woman
in a courtroom full of men.
910
00:54:29,723 --> 00:54:31,763
The trial took one day,
911
00:54:31,763 --> 00:54:34,003
and the verdict was guilty.
912
00:54:39,883 --> 00:54:44,723
The following day,
28th January, 1591,
913
00:54:44,723 --> 00:54:47,563
Agnes was brought here,
to Castlehill.
914
00:54:49,923 --> 00:54:53,443
She was to be strangled
and burnt at the stake.
915
00:54:53,443 --> 00:54:57,883
A sentence reserved only for
the most dangerous of heretics.
916
00:54:59,563 --> 00:55:04,763
I can't begin to imagine
how petrified she must have felt
917
00:55:04,763 --> 00:55:09,163
as she was being brought here,
knowing what was going to happen.
918
00:55:09,163 --> 00:55:10,603
RAVEN CROAKS
919
00:55:21,643 --> 00:55:23,163
WIND WHISTLES
920
00:55:24,363 --> 00:55:29,283
Blessed is the man that walketh
not in the counsel of the ungodly,
921
00:55:29,283 --> 00:55:32,123
nor standeth in the way of sinners,
922
00:55:32,123 --> 00:55:36,363
nor sitteth in the seat
of the scornful.
923
00:55:36,363 --> 00:55:39,883
But his delight is in the law
of the Lord,
924
00:55:39,883 --> 00:55:45,043
and his law doth he meditate
day and night.
925
00:55:46,603 --> 00:55:49,363
In this moment, religious zeal,
926
00:55:49,363 --> 00:55:52,483
fear of the devil,
and an ambitious king
927
00:55:52,483 --> 00:55:57,003
had collided to create
a system of persecution,
928
00:55:57,003 --> 00:55:59,723
from which there was no escape.
929
00:56:01,123 --> 00:56:06,003
And Agnes Sampson
paid the ultimate price.
930
00:56:16,243 --> 00:56:19,003
This event, it makes me angry.
931
00:56:19,003 --> 00:56:24,803
It seems like a terrible,
tragic miscarriage of justice.
932
00:56:24,803 --> 00:56:27,243
This is a woman who tried
to help people,
933
00:56:27,243 --> 00:56:29,843
but who ended up
being punished for it.
934
00:56:36,483 --> 00:56:41,483
Agnes' case set the blueprint
for a century of witch-hunts.
935
00:56:43,003 --> 00:56:47,683
Soon after her death, the Scottish
King became James I of England,
936
00:56:47,683 --> 00:56:51,603
and extended the English
witchcraft laws,
937
00:56:51,603 --> 00:56:54,923
leading to witch-hunts
south of the border, too.
938
00:56:54,923 --> 00:56:58,443
But it was Scotland that would have
one of the highest rates
939
00:56:58,443 --> 00:57:00,923
of witch-killing anywhere in Europe.
940
00:57:00,923 --> 00:57:04,603
In total, 2,500 people
would be executed,
941
00:57:04,603 --> 00:57:07,483
the vast majority, women.
942
00:57:07,483 --> 00:57:09,163
These were mothers,
943
00:57:09,163 --> 00:57:11,403
sisters, daughters.
944
00:57:13,883 --> 00:57:17,923
And imagine what it was like
for other women in this society.
945
00:57:17,923 --> 00:57:22,363
The fear they must have felt
that they could be next.
946
00:57:24,643 --> 00:57:28,843
The only national monument
to the thousands killed
947
00:57:28,843 --> 00:57:33,083
is this small drinking fountain,
known as the Witches' Well.
948
00:57:33,083 --> 00:57:37,283
But a campaign is now under way
for a more significant memorial
949
00:57:37,283 --> 00:57:39,923
and an official pardon.
950
00:57:40,923 --> 00:57:42,723
It's hard to know what to do
951
00:57:42,723 --> 00:57:46,603
with these dark chapters
from our past.
952
00:57:46,603 --> 00:57:49,643
It seems to me
there's a double injustice
953
00:57:49,643 --> 00:57:52,043
for the women caught up
in the witch-hunts.
954
00:57:52,043 --> 00:57:53,883
They were wrongly convicted,
955
00:57:53,883 --> 00:57:56,963
but on top of that,
their stories have been forgotten.
956
00:57:56,963 --> 00:58:00,843
They've been buried under a pile
of stereotypes.
957
00:58:00,843 --> 00:58:05,003
Now is the time to restore
the voices of women
958
00:58:05,003 --> 00:58:07,003
like Agnes Sampson...
959
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..and to make sure they're heard.
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How did a catastrophic plague
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that wiped out around half
the population change Britain?
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I am tempted to think that these
11 men thought,
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"Right, the plague is coming,
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"we're jolly well not going to go to
work, we're going to go to the pub.
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"Because tomorrow, we die".
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