All language subtitles for Christiane.Amanpour.Six.and.Love.Around.the.World.S01E05.1080p.HEVC.x265-MeGusta

[ Up-tempo music plays ]

AMANPOUR: Ghana, the fastest-
growing economy in Africa.

And yet...

MAN: The roots are about
everything start with biblical.

And you need to develop
a strong faith and audacity

to survive in this system.

♪ You're in a trance ♪

♪ Darkness to birth your light ♪

♪ Just say my name ♪

♪ Blow the dragon's breath
on your face ♪

♪ I go ♪

AMANPOUR: What happens when
religion colors every aspect

of love, sex, and relationships?

Welcome to Accra.

[ Laughs ]

[ Mid-tempo music plays ]

[ Down-tempo music plays ]

MAN: Tell me, what is your
problem with our religion,

that you've come all the way
from your country

to find out about it?

AMANPOUR: I first came to Ghana
20 years ago

to do a story on trokosi,
a religious practice

taking place in
a remote corner of the country.

What crime
is this child paying for?

INTERPRETER:
Her uncle committed adultery.

AMANPOUR: Young virgins were
forced to marry tribal priests

to pay for crimes
committed by their families.

INTERPRETER:
Death will strike your family

unless you bring
a young virgin to us.

AMANPOUR: Their lives became
a nightmare of manual labor

and sexual servitude.

Ever since that story,
I've been haunted

by the faces of those girls
forced to endure abuse,

all in the name
of tribal religion.

I've come back to Accra to find
out how things have changed.

[ Keyboard music plays,
cheers and applause ]

MAN: Jesus Christ,
the son of the living God,

give it to him,
for he alone is worthy.

In the name of Jesus,
like never before,

let God arise!

Let his enemies be scattered.

Put your hands together!

Somebody give him praise!

AMANPOUR: It's Sunday morning in
a Charismatic Christian church.

The service is packed
to the rafters

with passionate worshipers,
dressed in their very best

and listening rapt
to the sermon.

It could be anywhere in the U.S.
heartland, but it's not.

It's Accra, capital of the
West African country of Ghana.

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Ghana calls itself one of the
most religious places on Earth.

Pentecostal, Presbyterian,
Mormon, Methodist.

It seems there's a church
on every corner,

and indeed there may be.

Ghana has 700 Christian sects

and around 71,000
individual congregations.

Since religion often links guilt
and shame with sex

and the female body,

I'm wondering how love and
relationships can function here.

[ Applause ]

What are the sexual habits
of people who identify

as one of the most Christian
countries in the world?

So many people think that
one of the causes of divorce

is only adultery.

It's not true.

Selfishness!

Greed!

If you are selfish, don't marry,

because marriage
is never about you.

If you married a woman
because she's very slim...

[ Mid-tempo music plays ]

Hmm?
And she's very wonderfully made.

[ Music continues ]

And if your motive and reason
for marrying a woman

is because she looks
a particular way,

when she start making babies
and changing,

the reason for the marriage
is over.

AMANPOUR: Moesha Buduong
is an actress and model

who's gained a huge following
on social media

by flaunting
her sizeable assets.

And like many women in Ghana,

she keeps herself
impeccably primped and polished,

anticipating what the day
might hold.

Oh, that's nice.

Will I get a man here
with that color nails?

[ Laughs ]

Give me your
"I'm just meeting you

and I want to attract you" look.

You know, like,
I have a big bum.

So I just walking up and down.

[ Laughs ]

Are Ghanaian women
as body-obsessed,

as look-obsessed,
as women in the West?

BUDUONG:
Yes, they are.

They care for their skin,
their body.

Any beauty product.

Anything that has to do
with the skin.

AMANPOUR:
And you work in beauty products.

-I mean, you're an actress.
-Yes, I'm an actress.

And I've been signed
for a stretch-marks cream,

and for vagina-tightening gel.

What?!

Vagina-tightening gel.

It tightens the vagina.
Yeah.

-You're serious.
-And people get it a lot.

Like, so many girls use it.

-AMANPOUR: And why?
-More pleasure.

AMANPOUR:
For who?

For your man. Your boyfriend
or your husband, yes.

And what about for you?

BUDUONG: Ghana especially, we
try to please the men first.

That's why we use
all these things

to just make them enjoy the sex.

We please our men
before we think about ourselves.

You need to be a freak
in the sheets.

You need to be a freak
in the sheets.

To keep your man.

[ Laughs ]

That's why I'm
the favorite mistress.

I'm dating a married man.

-Really?
-And I'm in love with him.

-Are you?
-Very.

[ Gasps ]
And is that normal?

When a married man
comes up to you,

it's something very normal,
very, very normal.

Married men come up
to single girls and date them.

They have mistresses
and they have girlfriends.

So -- sorry -- they have a wife,
a mistress, and a girlfriend?

-You're kidding me.
-That's the truth.

Are you a mistress
or a girlfriend?

I'm a girlfriend, but I'm trying
to get to mistress.

Crikey. So it's wife,
mistress, girlfriend.

So you're at the bottom
of this pyramid.

Mistresses are like
the special girlfriends.

They're like next to the wife.

But I thought Ghanaian society
looked down on women

who have sex out of marriage.

They do.
It's not a good thing.

But it's like
it's happening everywhere.

Or you leave your husband

because he has a mistress
or a girlfriend.

Your next husband is going to do
the same thing.

Ladies, are you listening
to this conversation?

-WOMAN: Yes.
-And what do you think of it?

It's true.
Everything she said is true.

AMANPOUR:
Everything she said is true.

Yes.

Moesha, you're a Christian,
right?

I'm a Christian.

And so how does this all play in
with your religious beliefs?

-I'm a loyal mistress.
-[ Laughs ]

So I'm good.

You're a Christian mistress.

[ Laughs ]

I'm loyal,
and the wife knows about me.

What I'm doing is not hurting
anyone or causing pain.

Ghana is like, our economy
is just such in a way

that you just need someone
to take care of you.

Why? Because you can't
make enough money?

You can't make enough money...

-As a woman here.
-...as woman here.

Because even when you want to
get an apartment,

in Ghana you pay two years
in advance.

-Wow.
-And I just started working.

Where will I get money to pay
for an apartment for two years?

Are you basically telling me

that you're having sex
with this guy, essentially,

to pay your rent?

Because he can afford
to take care of you.

[ Snorts ]

He takes care of me,
my financial stuff,

my apartment, my car,
my rent, everything.

And -- And, Christiana,
the same for you?

Well, I'm not dating
a married man.

-You're dating a single man...
-Yes.

...who nonetheless
can take care of you.

And what does he ask of you
for that?

What do you have to do for him?

Like to have time for him.

Make sure you give him good food
and then,

when he wants to have fun
you make sure you're ready.

What does your man expect
of you?

He expects me to be loyal
and just to date him only

and give him sex when he wants.

And what if you said no one day?

He turns up at your house,
and you've got a headache.

What does he say?

You can't say no.

You have to give him
what he wants.

And what if you don't want it
that day?

That means he's going to think
you are cheating on him.

Yes, he's gonna think
you're cheating on him.

And does your man have
more mistresses?

Yes.

Does your boyfriend cheat
on you, Christiana?

Not that I know of,
at the moment.

If you get everything you need,

you're like, "Oh, it's normal."

It's normal.

You're very comfortable.
He's secured your future.

You may be comfortable and your
future may be secured --

Would you be happy?

Well...

[ Indistinct conversations ]

BUDUONG: Love -- I don't think
true love works in Ghana.

[ Down-tempo jazz plays ]

♪ Sit down ♪

♪ Let's have a drink ♪

♪ Let's talk a little bit ♪

♪ I know we have a lot to say ♪

AMANPOUR: With the state of love
somewhat in tatters,

what about the state
of marriage?

What does being married mean
for the average woman here?

I start chatting
with these two ladies,

both of whom have tied the knot.

You know, culturally,
when you are going into marriage

as a woman,
the elderly women gather you

and they give you advice.

They advise you what a woman
is supposed to do.

So they tell you, as a wife,
you cook.

You take care of your children.

You always have to make sure
that food is ready.

You always have to make sure
the house is clean.

They tell you all these things.

In Ghana, we say,
"A way to a man's heart

is through his stomach."

Through his stomach.
Okay.

This isn't through his stomach,
though.

As a woman, you need to know
how to cook.

-Right.
-Now, another thing...

[ Laughs ]

I lose.
[ Laughs ]

Another thing that you
have to also do

is to be able to satisfy him
sexually.

Now, this is one of the things
to attract him.

AMANPOUR: A simple strand
of waist beads.

Today, they're mostly
just decorative,

tantalizingly out
of plain sight.

But in the past,

these beads signaled
a woman's coming of age,

to marry and to bear babies

in a society that valued her
only as a wife and mother.

WOMAN: Yeah.
It's very attractive for men.

-Why?
-Yes.

Because that's our tradition,

what we use, differentiate
a man and a woman.

But do they hang on to them?
What do they do with them?

They actually just
like to see it.

And during the sexual act,

they like to touch it as well
and play with it.

The fact that they shake,
you know, they're wriggling,

-it's just amazing for them.
-Really?

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AMANPOUR:
So -- But here's the thing.

I mean, do we really want
to be doing all this

just to attract men,
or am I being just too feminist?

Well, if you want to keep
your man...

-If you want to keep your man.
-We have so many things to do.

Whenever your husband needs you,
you have to avail yourself.

-And have sex when they want.
-Have sex when they want.

Even when you don't
feel like it.

Even in churches,
they preach it.

We go into the marriage
knowing our responsibilities.

This is my place
in the marriage,

and this is the man's place
in the marriage.

We hear, you know,

that Ghanaian men
aren't that faithful.

They do a lot of cheating.

-Girls can't do that, can they?
-No.

And if a woman should be caught
having an affair,

the church will solicit
for a divorce.

But when a man is caught,
they actually say that he should

just apologize, repent,
and then marriage is back on.

-Talk about double standards.
-Yes.

♪ My baby doesn't care,
for sure ♪

♪ He likes to spend time
outdoors ♪

♪ He wanders 'round
in dark streets ♪

♪ And comes home
when I'm already asleep ♪

AMANPOUR: In the feverishly
Christian capital of Accra,

I've just heard
from some of the women

that many Sunday-morning saints

are busy sinning
the rest of the week,

in a culture
where male infidelity

seems socially acceptable,
like a badge of honor.

Nice One, as a man,
do you have a wife?

-I have one wife, only one wife.
-Is that your first wife?

That's my first wife.
I only have one wife.

AMANPOUR: Nice One, as this
gentleman happily goes by,

offers a man's perspective
on love and marriage.

And where did you meet?
How did you meet?

In the field of play
in front of the King's Palace.

I'm a footballer.

[ Mid-tempo music plays ]

And I scored a goal.

-Aah!
-When I score a goal...

I'm happy,
this lady is clapping.

And someone comes and tells me,

"Hey, Nice One!"

"That lady over there
is speaking about you!"

So after the game,
I approached her.

And meanwhile,

she also loved me.

Oh, my gosh.

Now we be in a partnership.

And are you -- Do you cheat?

-Come again?
-Do you cheat?

No, I can't teach.

-Cheat.
-Cheat. I can't cheat.

The reason why is that,
you know,

I'm a poor person
before we marry.

We understand each other.

So when I have money,
I let them know.

Today I have money.

Sandra, let's share this money.

So this is really interesting.

You said you don't cheat
because you're a poor person.

Would you say
that the men who cheat

are mostly the rich people
who can afford to have

a wife and a mistress
and a girlfriend?

Yes.

Because of their money.

When you are rich,

you can decide to choose
any woman you want.

But I'm a poor person.
I have to stay with one lady.

If you don't have money,
some of the women,

they don't like you.

Right.

[ Down-tempo music plays ]

AMANPOUR: But what about women
who have their own money?

For decades,
women have played a vital role

as traders in markets
throughout Accra,

a tradition that dates back
to the old days

when women took up trading
while their men took up arms

and went off to war.

[ Music continues ]

[ Indistinct conversations ]

Jamestown market is gritty
and smoky and smelly and fishy.

It's a hardscrabble living.

And here too
the women are in charge,

scaling and hawking the catch
and generally running the show.

-Are you a fish seller here?
-Yes.

Who are the most important
people in this market?

Women, women, women.

The women are most important?
Why is that?

It's the woman's job.

AMANPOUR:
Dozens of women own fish stalls,

but Obi is an exception.

She owns a fishing boat.

Are the men your employees?

-Yes.
-So they work for you.

-Yes.
-So you're the boss.

Oh, she's gone.
Well, she is a woman of --

[ Shouting in native language ]

I'm coming.

AMANPOUR: So off she goes.
She's gone to get the catch.

So she's a strong woman,
isn't she?

She's a strong woman.

Sometimes if you're a man
and you don't behave,

she'll beat you.

She'll beat you.

So everybody's afraid of her.

They're afraid of her.

[ Mid-tempo music plays ]

Further inland,
we meet Madam Mercy.

As the market queen
of all markets in greater Accra,

she's a woman who's achieved
great status and wealth.

All your rings!

I mean, they're very,
very ornate.

MERCY:
Yes, usually as a market queen,

you have to adorn yourself
to your status.

AMANPOUR:
So this is all status for you?

MERCY: Yes.
Very, very important position.

Very, very prestigious
and very, very tiring.

[ Laughs ]

The fact that women are
setting up their own businesses,

you know, selling the fish,
et cetera,

does that give them
a certain status,

a certain independence?

Yes. The men find it
very difficult to dominate you.

Because if you want money
and the man says no,

it means that day
you won't eat.

But if you are independent,

you can use your own money
to buy the food.

And maybe you give some
to the man.

So, do you think that you
and your husband

shared the workload,

or would you say
the woman does more?

Uh, naturally,
as a married woman,

you have to do more.

You have to do more
or you do more?

Yes, because the tradition says
the husband is the head.

So you don't expect your husband
to do the washing.

You don't expect your husband
to do the cooking.

Okay.
Physical satisfaction.

What about sex?

What about feeling good?

What about the right
to be as satisfied as he is?

Physical satisfaction --

If you know that historically
our freaking men are very good.

[ Laughs ]

You know it.

They have the strength.

They have the power.

That's why they even think
of marrying one or two.

So sex is how you train
your man.

Because my husband was a chief,

when he is going to bath
he will put on towel.

I will push the towel.
"Oh, oh, oh!"

I'll say, "What?"

So you would push
his towel away.

Yes. I would say,
"But I have seen it.

So why should you cover it?"

So you were flirting
with your own husband.

Yes. It's up to you to just
lure him into foreplay.

AMANPOUR: Talking to people
in the cities

and just out here in Jamestown,

you get a sense
that a lot of men cheat.

A lot of men, but not all men.

-Mine didn't do it...
-He didn't.

...because already,
officially, we were two.

And the second wife --
with two wives...

-He didn't need to.
-Yes.

I see.
Were you jealous of her?

No, not as such.

What about love?

What about happiness,
you know, fulfillment?

-Love is love.
-Right.

As love means in your country,

love means the same thing
in our country.

But sometimes the man will be
with more than one wife.

So the love has to be shared.

[ Down-tempo music plays ]

Do you talk about these things
often?

Uh, because...

I mean, I'm a stranger
and I'm sitting next to you,

asking you all these
personal questions.

And you're being very, very open
and honest and frank.

Yes, because maybe my being open
will save somebody's life.

My being open will save
somebody's marriage.

[ Women singing
in native language ]

AMANPOUR: It's your wedding day,
and hope springs eternal

with the promise of love
and happiness ever after.

Connie is about to hitch
her hopes

and her future to Ebenezer in
a traditional Ghanaian ceremony.

[ Singing in native language ]

AMANPOUR: The groom's family
brings a dowry of gifts

to be examined
by the bride's family --

first the women, then the men.

MAN:
The families are here.

Are we ready to accept
these presentations,

which are being brought
or have been brought,

for your hand in marriage?

-Yes, please.
-Thank you. Thank you very much.

AMANPOUR:
Already dressed in her finery,

Connie accepts
in what's largely a formality.

And then Ebenezer is ushered in.

This couple has come
to the altar fully committed

and full of faith.

That's what brought them
together in the first place.

He's my first boyfriend.

We met at a church.

I like his behavior

because he's cool and humble

and God-fearing.

If we have a holy book that
we all take inspiration from,

it will be very easy
for the two parties to relate,

to grow old beside each other.

AMANPOUR: But for the rest
of their marriage,

will they really be equals
under God

and in the eyes
of their Christian faith?

With this ring on the hand
of Connie,

every civilized man
will keep away from Connie

because this is the token of

a man's love to Connie!

Hence

every man should keep away.

[ Mid-tempo keyboard music
plays ]

MAN: We're so glad you made it
this morning.

Praise the Lord.

I will sing.
I will shout.

I will praise the Lord.

[ Music continues ]

Hallelujah!

And now shall we welcome the
father of the house, the papa?

[ Cheers and applause ]

AMANPOUR: Archbishop
Nicholas Duncan-Williams,

affectionately known as Papa,
is the head of Action Chapel

and a kind of
Sunday-morning celebrity.

Hallelujah.

[ Applause ]

Amen.

AMANPOUR: Thousands of
worshippers, men and women,

look to him for guidance
in navigating their lives

and their marriages.

DUNCAN-WILLIAMS:
I've been watching

our sister Christiane Amanpour
for many, many years on CNN,

and I like her very much.

Amen.

Good to have you and everyone.

Good to be in church.

Genesis 2:15.
Genesis 2:15.

"And the Lord God took the man

and put him into
the Garden of Eden

to dress it and to keep it."

That was God's sovereign act.

God's sovereign act.

He took the man,
put him in the garden,

and said, "I'll give you
the responsibility

to protect the garden
and to keep it."

And that was the beginning
of the fall of man.

AMANPOUR: Why do you think it is
that in scripture,

in the Christian faith,

women have been portrayed
kind of as the temptress,

kind of as a little bit naughty,
devilish?

Eve ate the apple
and cast man and woman

out of the Garden of Eden.

I think women are vulnerable

because they are emotional
beings, very passionate,

and the devil
is a counterfeiter.

So he uses anything God uses.

They put the blame on woman

when it comes to the fall
of man.

But I have an issue with that.
I disagree with that.

It was equal responsibility.

Because the man,
according to scripture,

was standing right there.

And when the devil was speaking
to the woman,

he didn't interfere, he didn't
interrupt the conversation.

-So he should have done?
-He should have.

Because he's the head
of the family.

He didn't interrupt
the conversation.

He heard what the devil said
to the woman,

he allowed the woman to eat
of the fruit of the tree,

and then the woman gave it
to him,

and he took it from her
and ate it.

We've asked enough people enough
questions to understand here

that there is a lot of sex
going on --

a lot of casual sex,
a lot of sex out of marriage.

We've been talking to a lot
of women who say that,

you know, they feel, you know,

like second-class citizens
in their marriage --

that the husband,
for whatever reason,

can drop them or can take
other wives, can cheat.

Do you find a lot of that,

and how do you counsel men
in that regard?

I come from a family.
I have 43 siblings.

-Forty-three siblings?
-Yeah.

My father had a lot of kids,
and, um --

With different wives?

With different wives,
and it's a culture thing.

Our job is to present
the alternative

to what prevailed here
before the truth

or the gospel or the light came.

Is there a sort of a nod
and a wink to the guys?

No, no, no, when it comes
to the church and scripture,

we are very firm
on what scripture says.

And it cuts across.

I think that if a woman
understands her purpose

and assignment,
you make yourself valuable.

What does that mean to you?

You play a very important role
in the life of the man,

which was the original intent
of God for instituting marriage.

For God said, "It's not good
for the man to be alone.

And therefore, I, God,
will give the man a helpmate."

And the meaning of a helpmate

is one that will surround you
with aid and assistance.

I believe, biblically,
that the need of every man

is respect and honor,
and the need of every woman --

it doesn't matter
what your culture, tradition,

or color of your skin is --
is love and security.

How is it gonna work --
that dynamic, that equation --

as more and more women

are going into the workplace,
for instance?

More and more women are becoming
more and more independent here,

just like they are
in the rest of the world.

Do you think woman deserves
respect and honor, too?

I will say that respect
is not something you demand.

You earn it.

You don't have to tell anybody,
"Respect me!"

You know?

They just have to do it because
you know what you're about.

[ Mid-tempo music plays ]

AMANPOUR: An encounter between
a Ghanaian woman

and a pair of Christian pastors
where art seems to imitate life.

God has revealed something to us
about you.

You need prayer
to solve your problem.

We need to pray for you
from the head

to your toes.

Don't touch me, please.

We are men of God!

-Stop this!
-No, but in the spirit of...

[ Music continues ]

AZIZAA:
Young, overzealous pastors

will do and say anything
in the name of Jesus

or in the name of God.

And they tend to violate
women's privacies,

and sometimes they actually
physically grab you.

"Come, let me preach to you."

It was a personal experience.

-You had that happen to you?
-Yeah.

[ Music continues ]

♪ Submit to me ♪

♪ Tell me your evil deeds ♪

♪ Taste my kiss of death ♪

♪ I'll blow the dragon's breath
on your face ♪

AMANPOUR: Azizaa Mystic
is a controversial

and outspoken Ghanaian singer.

♪ I'm the black-magic woman ♪

AMANPOUR: Her graphic lyrics
and provocative image

keep her firmly at odds
with the status quo.

I catch up with her backstage

while she's getting ready
for a gig.

♪ Aliens from the sky ♪

AZIZAA:
New Age Christianity --

That's Ghana's biggest problem
right now.

When the slave traders came,

they came with the Bible
in one hand

and the gun in the other hand.

I think it became a thing
that people had to convert

to Christianity
just to save their lives.

It was the one thing
that saved them.

But yet it's the one thing
that's killing them.

[ Down-tempo music plays ]

[ Horns honking ]

I mean, it's easy
to call women sluts here.

Just the other day
when I left rehearsal,

we were in a car, and this
driver tried to cut us off.

You know, he drives past us.
He goes "Ashawo!"

[ Laughs ]
Which means "prostitute."

Christianity.

[ Music continues ]

Yeah, I blame it all
on Christianity.

AMANPOUR:
Your art is about what?

About trying to go back
to the roots?

Yes.

I believe our ancestors
left a message for us,

which is sankofa, which means
going back to your roots.

And I do believe that our future
is behind us.

[ Indistinct conversations ]

AMANPOUR: Azizaa practices
West African beliefs

that were in Ghana centuries
before Christianity arrived.

Christians call it demonic.

You know, we know the word
"voodoo" in the West,

but here it's --
How do you say that here?

-Vodun.
-Vodun?

-Yeah.
-What exactly does that mean?

It means "spirits."

-That's all?
-That's it.

AMANPOUR:
Believers say they're surrounded

by a world of spirits --

of dead ancestors and
other supernatural deities --

and these spirits
can be called upon

to intercede through rituals

and sacrificial offerings,
or voodoo.

AZIZAA: Practicing voodoo
or vodun is basically,

or simply put,
being one with nature.

And one of your songs
is called "Voodoo Pussy."

Yeah, "Voodoo Pussy."

♪ Burning
with all your desires ♪

♪ I see it in your eyes ♪

It started off as my friends
from other tribes, guys,

telling me that their mothers
warned them

not to deal with Ewe women.

Really?
Stay away from people like you?

That was my reaction, yes.

They said our vodun
is too strong

and we make them forget
their families.

From the men's perspective,

they said we have something
going on down there.

[ Laughs ]

♪ And call it voodoo pussy ♪

♪ Ai! Ai! ♪

♪ A voodoo pussy ♪

♪ Ai! Ai! ♪

AMANPOUR: It seems that it's
part of your emancipation.

Yeah, it is.

I don't want to be vulgar,

but I feel like women really
need to understand their power.

It's not only from just using
your brain,

but this too -- the womb.

This is everything.
We're the mothers of creation.

We birth nations.

Once you're a woman

and you feel like you're
100% woman, all women,

then you should be able to say
you have voodoo pussy.

♪ We cook, we clean,
we fight, we fuck ♪

♪ Call it voodoo pussy ♪

♪ Ai! Ai! ♪

AMANPOUR:
Are you in a relationship?

-AZIZAA: No.
-♪ Ai! Ai! ♪

[ Both laugh ]

-You knew that was coming.
-I didn't!

Like, having a man
doesn't validate me.

What I do in life,
how I help people

is what validates
my work here on Earth.

♪ Voodoo pussy ♪

Thank you.

Thank you.

[ Down-tempo music plays ]

AMANPOUR: This is
a trokosi slave girl, right?

A trokosi girl.
How old is this little girl?

Seven years old.

Do you know why you're here?

No.

Do you like it here?

Do you miss your parents?

Her name was Brigitte,

and she was the youngest
of the trokosi girls

I met here 20 years ago.

It was Brigitte who brought me
back to Accra

after all these years,

and we're about to meet again
face-to-face.

Hi there.

Oh, my God.

[ Chuckles ]
I'm gonna cry too.

Oh, my goodness!
I can't believe this.

[ Music continues ]

Thank you so much.

We did some good, huh?

-We did some good.
-We did.

It's incredible you're free.
I can't believe it.

And all my life,
I've been waiting to see you,

but I didn't think it would be
in Ghana.

Thank you.

[ Music continues ]

AMANPOUR: After the story aired
on "60 Minutes,"

Brigitte Perenyi was adopted
by an American

and came to live in Florida.

BRIGITTE:
My adoptive father now --

He saw the video,
and he contacted --

he contacted CBS.

And literally
they plucked you out.

-He had to pay for my freedom.
-Did he?

Because he asked for money
to be paid.

-How much?
-I was told over $10,000.

He said, "I saw a little girl
in the video.

Something in her eyes
was calling for me."

What a good man.

I was really afraid,
because I didn't know

whether you were gonna get
abused,

assaulted, you know, sexually.

But because of you, I didn't --
When you are in the shrine,

after your first
menstrual cycle,

they force --
they rape the girls.

After you have
your first period?

But when you --
because of your video,

when I came out a month later --
a month later, I started.

A month after us,
you started your period?

-Yes.
-And?

You know,
if I had stayed in there --

If you hadn't come, it's like...

You know, I often think
about this

and what my life --
I would've --

I don't know what my life
would have been like.

But I just want to make sure.

You were not physically
attacked?

-You weren't raped?
-No.

Thank God.
Thank God for that.

You must have seen others
who were.

I -- You hear them.

You hear them.

Because, you know, they're --
they're screaming

in the middle of the night.

They're screaming
to get themselves away from --

from these men.

[ Music continues ]

AMANPOUR:
And this still goes on?

Yes.

So now, for me,
I am trying to start a dialogue.

I want people to know
that it's happening.

AMANPOUR: Brigitte now works
as a human rights activist,

splitting her time
between America and Accra.

I just finished
my master's degree.

Yeah.
It's amazing.

In international relations
and human rights.

Oh, that's so great.

I mean, you're young.
You're 26.

But how much do you think
this has affected you?

I mean, do you have
romantic relationships?

Um, yeah, I have.

I-I...

Like, I sort of --
I don't have...

I don't really have a trust.

I don't really, like --

There's this thing
about trusting a man

and trusting someone
to sort of, um...

...be free and be yourself with.

-Are you a Christian now?
-I am.

I just recently kind of made
that decision for myself.

You know, there are
some people here,

and we've spoken to some,

who feel very much
like Christianity

is the white man's burden
on Africa and on Ghana.

And they want to go back
to the strength

that Ghanaians had in their
traditional cultural practices.

You see, tradition, culture,

it's supposed to be about
the continuity of the people.

It's supposed to celebrate life.

For me, any traditions that
infringe on the rights of others

is not a tradition.

It's not culture.
It's not Ghanaian.

It's not African.
You can't do that.

MAMA ZIMBI: Wonderful listeners,
it's a special show for you.

In the studio today,
Christiane Amanpour.

We also have Dr. Sylvia,
the number-one gynecologist.

And I'm here, your one
and only Akumaa Mama Zimbi.

So call in to the show

and let us know what is really
eating you up

here on "Odo Ahomaso"
on Adom 106.3 FM.

[ Mid-tempo music plays ]

AMANPOUR:
In Ghana, radio is not only

the most reliable form of media,

it's also the one
with the farthest reach.

So just maybe it is the best way
to begin a kind of revolution.

MAMA ZIMBI: Oh, you don't know
how to make love?

I'm here to teach you,
to educate you.

AMANPOUR: Mama Zimbi is the host
of Ghana's number one radio show

on marriage, love, and sex.

WOMAN: Hello, Mama Zimbi?
Very shy to talk about this.

My husband only wants to
have sex two times a week,

but I want to have it
every day.

Oh, I see.

AMANPOUR:
Much like the pioneering work

of Dr. Ruth in 1980s America,

Mama Zimbi's show is pushing
all the boundaries,

lifting sex talk out of
a purely religious context

and helping women take back
control of their sexuality.

Mama Zimbi, we just heard about
this girl who wants to have it

-all the time.
-Yeah.

What are the sex positions
that you advise?

If the husband is tired,
watching TV,

you could just sit on him,
and then it's just easy.

He would just be then
like that, like that,

like this, like that.

So the husband is just going to
support you like that,

and just easy.

I hear lots of women
who cry desperately,

you know, because they're not

getting sexual satisfaction
in their marriages.

And you see,
they've just kept quiet.

-It's a taboo.
-They don't talk about it.

They don't talk about it!
And it's killing them slowly.

And because of that, too,

they are not able to educate
their children about sex.

That's an interesting
question --

how the younger generation
is being raised and educated.

We just talk about
the biology of sex.

We don't talk about
sexual relations anymore.

So there's a yawning gap
waiting to be filled.

So, men, please,
it's a two-way affair.

I know you're listening.
Some will get angry.

But Mama Zimbi, you know,
I just say it as it is.

[ Mid-tempo music plays ]

AMANPOUR: Further proof
that women in Accra

are ready to speak more openly
about intimate topics --

the popularity of TV shows
like "An African City,"

where Nicole Amarteifio
and Maama Adjei

portray Ghanaian women
as modern and successful

and not afraid to talk frankly
about sex.

Why won't you go down on me?
I need you to go down on me.

I'm a Ghanaian man.
I don't go down on women.

-It's just not our culture.
-Excuse me? Not our culture?

There's nothing Ghanaian
about going down on a woman.

It's an overseas thing.
It's a Western thing.

I don't care if it's from Pluto.
It feels good.

I like it.
I need you to do it.

What about me going down on you,
huh?

-What's that?
-Now, that's different.

Ha!
Of course it is.

So tell me about women.
I mean, here you are --

I mean,
you two could not present

a more modern, confident,
empowered image.

Has it always been like that?
Do people talk about sex here?

Absolutely.

I think women talk about sex
all the time in Africa.

It's just that we talk about it
behind closed doors.

So what "An African City"
has done,

which is sort of
put our business

"out in the streets,"
is different.

One of the goals
of "An African City"

is to show women
that sex is for them.

Now, that's a message all women
need around the world.

But sex is for you.

And I think there was a point
in our history

in which we were told
that sex is not for us --

sensuality, sexuality
was not for us.

Even the opposite --

If you did seek it or indulge in
it, you were somehow wicked.

-Exactly.
-We were wicked.

"An African City," you indulge
in it, and it's great.

Because it's your choice, right?
It's your choice.

It's how I choose to live
my life.

I feel like Christianity --

what it's done
that's been a disservice to us

is sort of forced us
to not be critical thinkers

and just not be aware
of where we're from.

Whereas within our traditional
culture, we are sexual.

Women are powerful and sexual.

AMANPOUR: Religion informs
everything here in Accra,

and the church seems to be
sending mixed messages

about marriage, dating,

and what's expected
of Ghanaian women.

But more and more women
are speaking out,

using media to share stories
about sex and sex ed,

championing the idea that women
too deserve respect and honor

in addition to love
and security

and reclaiming their own
personal and sexual space.

So, what do the most religious
people in the world

have to say about sex and love?

MAMA ZIMBI:
Welcome to the show!

WOMAN:
Mama Zimbi, I have a problem.

ZIMBI:
Okay. Go ahead, sweetheart.

AMANPOUR:
Evidently, a lot.