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Tom? 13 00:00:50,925 --> 00:00:52,510 - What are photographs? - [Trebek] Yes. 14 00:00:53,344 --> 00:00:56,806 [man 1] We were using subversive humor to make fun of the world. 15 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:59,893 [newscaster 1] Their name comes from their secret website. 16 00:01:00,685 --> 00:01:03,772 [man 1] Not understanding that the jokes we made 17 00:01:03,855 --> 00:01:06,024 would turn into conspiracy theories. 18 00:01:06,107 --> 00:01:08,068 [creepy, distorted music] 19 00:01:08,151 --> 00:01:11,154 [man 1] And next thing you know, the entire world 20 00:01:11,237 --> 00:01:16,367 turned into this disinformation-pumping gigantic chanosphere. 21 00:01:17,452 --> 00:01:20,038 [newscaster 2] Conspiracy theories saturate the internet. 22 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:24,375 [newscaster 3] This misinformation has reshaped our society. 23 00:01:29,839 --> 00:01:34,135 {\an8}[man 1] We started something and never intended for it to end up this way. 24 00:01:34,219 --> 00:01:36,721 [people shouting] 25 00:01:37,639 --> 00:01:40,892 [protestors chanting] USA! 26 00:01:43,645 --> 00:01:48,733 [man 1] And now I'm just trying to clean up what I see as my old mistakes. 27 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:49,734 [music ends] 28 00:01:49,818 --> 00:01:53,947 [digital distortion rises and fades out] 29 00:01:57,158 --> 00:01:59,327 [wind gusting] 30 00:02:01,371 --> 00:02:03,373 {\an8}[purring] 31 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:14,050 [man 2] I was about ten years old when I first got into computers. 32 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:18,263 {\an8}- [pensive synthesizer music playing] - I would start playing sick at home 33 00:02:18,346 --> 00:02:19,848 {\an8}to get out of school. 34 00:02:19,931 --> 00:02:23,143 The only phone line in the house was in the living room, 35 00:02:23,726 --> 00:02:26,646 but my computer was upstairs. 36 00:02:30,859 --> 00:02:33,903 I would take one of my parent's checks, 37 00:02:34,863 --> 00:02:37,782 open up an AOL account, and go online on AOL all day. 38 00:02:37,866 --> 00:02:40,660 [modem dialing, staticky burst] 39 00:02:40,743 --> 00:02:44,289 And then an hour before my mom and dad were gonna be coming home from work, 40 00:02:44,372 --> 00:02:47,542 I would get on the phone with AOL to cancel the account. 41 00:02:47,625 --> 00:02:49,210 [staticky burst] 42 00:02:49,294 --> 00:02:54,090 [Fuxnet] I felt like the coolest criminal child in the world. 43 00:02:55,383 --> 00:02:58,136 I think I was 12 when we first got the internet. 44 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,723 {\an8}I definitely was super curious, 45 00:03:01,806 --> 00:03:03,975 {\an8}looking up stuff I probably should not have been. 46 00:03:04,684 --> 00:03:06,644 I specifically remember one instance, 47 00:03:06,728 --> 00:03:09,647 my stepdad approached me after dinner one night. 48 00:03:09,731 --> 00:03:13,776 He's like, "Why did you look up sex.com?" [laughing] 49 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:16,571 - And I got in so much trouble. - [erotic moaning] 50 00:03:16,654 --> 00:03:19,407 I wasn't allowed online for like a week after that. [chuckles] 51 00:03:20,074 --> 00:03:20,992 [cell door slamming] 52 00:03:21,075 --> 00:03:25,830 {\an8}From my perspective, as a kid, you know, there was always just internet. 53 00:03:27,498 --> 00:03:31,586 - Chat rooms, forums, bulletin boards. - [pensive synthesizer music continues] 54 00:03:31,669 --> 00:03:35,506 Having an online persona as a way to get outside myself. 55 00:03:36,549 --> 00:03:41,596 Kirtaner is loud, brash, take-no-prisoners. 56 00:03:42,805 --> 00:03:46,226 It was an inverse of how I was in real life. 57 00:03:49,187 --> 00:03:50,730 [crying echoing] 58 00:03:51,481 --> 00:03:55,610 [Fuxnet] I didn't understand that I had anxiety, but I knew that I felt 59 00:03:55,693 --> 00:03:58,363 strange being in groups of people. 60 00:04:00,698 --> 00:04:03,493 So, the internet became a place for me to 61 00:04:03,576 --> 00:04:04,953 be comfortable. 62 00:04:07,205 --> 00:04:10,375 I would just go online, see what other people were talking about, 63 00:04:10,458 --> 00:04:12,085 attempt to join in. 64 00:04:12,961 --> 00:04:16,714 There was this whole other world of people that I could talk to. 65 00:04:16,798 --> 00:04:18,091 [upbeat synthesizer music] 66 00:04:18,174 --> 00:04:22,053 I would talk to people about video games, anime. 67 00:04:23,304 --> 00:04:28,059 At the time, Japanese anime was blowing up in a big way. 68 00:04:28,142 --> 00:04:32,397 American children's entertainment, it's pretty lame for the most part. 69 00:04:32,981 --> 00:04:37,819 The Japanese stuff was just cooler than all the other stuff on TV at the time. 70 00:04:40,071 --> 00:04:41,281 [all] Power Rangers! 71 00:04:41,364 --> 00:04:43,676 [Kirtaner] Throughout the '90s, it felt like Japanese culture 72 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:45,618 was taking over the world. 73 00:04:45,702 --> 00:04:48,579 - [crowd cheering faintly] - [music fades out] 74 00:04:58,006 --> 00:04:59,340 [passersby chattering] 75 00:04:59,424 --> 00:05:01,718 [man] I'd always wanted to live in Japan. 76 00:05:02,552 --> 00:05:04,929 {\an8}To us Gen-Xers, 77 00:05:05,013 --> 00:05:09,642 {\an8}Japan was the place that made all the cool stuff that we so desperately wanted. 78 00:05:10,143 --> 00:05:13,438 - [ambient digital music playing] - In the '90s and early 2000s, 79 00:05:13,521 --> 00:05:18,026 Japan was a Petri dish for all sorts of technological innovations. 80 00:05:20,403 --> 00:05:21,696 [crowd cheering] 81 00:05:21,779 --> 00:05:26,492 [Alt] Most Japanese accessed the internet not off of PCs, 82 00:05:26,576 --> 00:05:29,829 but on cell phones, which had really limited bandwidth. 83 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:36,294 It starts to create strange new systems for communication, like the emoji. 84 00:05:38,046 --> 00:05:40,715 And 2channel was yet another example of this. 85 00:05:42,425 --> 00:05:46,012 2channel is an anonymous bulletin board system. 86 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:50,016 Being totally anonymous gave young people 87 00:05:50,099 --> 00:05:52,894 the opportunity to vent their thoughts and opinions 88 00:05:52,977 --> 00:05:55,688 without fear of being judged for it. 89 00:05:57,065 --> 00:05:59,567 It was pretty primitive looking, 90 00:05:59,650 --> 00:06:01,986 but, you know, connecting people, 91 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:05,656 being able to find your tribe, it was absolutely revolutionary. 92 00:06:05,740 --> 00:06:07,116 [high-pitched tinkling] 93 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,162 [Alt] And it was instantly popular with otaku. 94 00:06:12,413 --> 00:06:15,541 Otaku are adults who had no interest 95 00:06:15,625 --> 00:06:18,378 in any of the traditional trappings of adulthood. 96 00:06:18,961 --> 00:06:22,632 2channel let them dive deeper into their fantasy lives. 97 00:06:24,592 --> 00:06:30,390 The visual aspect also made it a lot easier for Westerners to access. 98 00:06:30,473 --> 00:06:35,228 One of them was a mysterious figure who went by the handle "moot." 99 00:06:35,311 --> 00:06:36,771 [ominous synth music playing] 100 00:06:36,854 --> 00:06:40,400 [Alt] He downloaded a copy of 2chan's software 101 00:06:41,484 --> 00:06:45,780 and then he launched it under the name 4chan. 102 00:06:47,198 --> 00:06:48,908 4chan.net, 103 00:06:48,991 --> 00:06:53,204 an English version of 2chan.net. 104 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:55,706 [distorted digital burst] 105 00:06:56,999 --> 00:07:00,086 [Kirtaner] First time I saw 4chan was the first day it was online. 106 00:07:00,169 --> 00:07:03,381 - [lighter flicking, bong bubbling] - [Kirtaner] If I'm remembering correctly. 107 00:07:03,464 --> 00:07:05,299 [giggling, coughing] 108 00:07:05,383 --> 00:07:08,010 It was like a hodgepodge of anything you could think of. 109 00:07:08,094 --> 00:07:09,094 {\an8}[meowing] 110 00:07:09,137 --> 00:07:12,640 {\an8}[Amanda] Things that you would not see anywhere else online except for there. 111 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:17,770 There was definitely a lot of stuff that was... super edgy. 112 00:07:17,854 --> 00:07:19,313 {\an8}[straw sucking] 113 00:07:19,397 --> 00:07:22,233 [Fuxnet] To my young brain... 114 00:07:22,316 --> 00:07:25,278 - [8-bit video game sounds] - ...it was really cool. [chuckling] 115 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:29,174 [Kirtaner] You could say whatever you want and it was not associated with you. 116 00:07:29,198 --> 00:07:31,993 Nobody knew who you were, you were anonymous. 117 00:07:32,076 --> 00:07:34,162 {\an8}[8-bit video game music playing] 118 00:07:34,871 --> 00:07:37,582 {\an8}Being able to post things anonymously, 119 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:41,252 {\an8}with an image, didn't exist anywhere else on the internet. 120 00:07:44,088 --> 00:07:46,007 During the summer of 2004, 121 00:07:46,090 --> 00:07:47,800 a friend hits me up and is like, 122 00:07:47,884 --> 00:07:50,470 "Hey, do you want to come on as a programmer?" 123 00:07:50,553 --> 00:07:54,849 And I'm like, "Okay." I like programming. So, why not? 124 00:07:56,434 --> 00:07:58,060 Moot was very mysterious. 125 00:07:58,144 --> 00:07:59,729 No one knew what he looked like. 126 00:07:59,812 --> 00:08:03,441 No one knew his real name, or where he lived. 127 00:08:04,066 --> 00:08:06,819 But he created something we all wanted. 128 00:08:07,445 --> 00:08:09,947 Like, this is what the internet should be. 129 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:14,785 You can communicate with anyone all over the world, in any way you want. 130 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:17,705 [upbeat music playing] 131 00:08:17,788 --> 00:08:20,917 [Kirtaner] It was a glorious time, those early first few years. 132 00:08:21,584 --> 00:08:25,171 Like, we ate, breathed, slept that shit. 133 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,549 We formed our own language, our own lingo. 134 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:29,759 [dog barking] 135 00:08:29,842 --> 00:08:34,305 Most of it, not exactly culturally acceptable in this day and age. 136 00:08:34,388 --> 00:08:37,475 {\an8}- [mouse clicking] - [chiming] 137 00:08:37,558 --> 00:08:38,601 {\an8}[The Fonz, distorted] Ey. 138 00:08:38,684 --> 00:08:41,812 {\an8}4chan loved making these inside jokes 139 00:08:41,896 --> 00:08:45,525 {\an8}that people outside the community wouldn't get. 140 00:08:46,234 --> 00:08:47,818 {\an8}"For the Lulz" was a term. 141 00:08:48,319 --> 00:08:52,365 [Fuxnet] "The lulz" is a bastardization of "laugh out loud." 142 00:08:52,448 --> 00:08:54,367 You would make a funny meme, 143 00:08:54,450 --> 00:08:58,329 post it, you refresh, all of a sudden, you've got 100 replies. 144 00:08:58,412 --> 00:09:01,207 Everybody's laughing, joking, modifying it. 145 00:09:02,458 --> 00:09:04,377 You've got that dopamine rush. 146 00:09:04,460 --> 00:09:06,379 You just wanted another hit, another taste. 147 00:09:07,296 --> 00:09:10,049 Viral imagery blasting in your eyeballs. 148 00:09:10,132 --> 00:09:12,301 You didn't want the party to stop. 149 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:14,679 [chaotic overlapping sounds] 150 00:09:15,263 --> 00:09:17,640 The site worked in this Darwinian way, 151 00:09:17,723 --> 00:09:21,102 {\an8}where the most interesting posts, the posts that got the most replies, 152 00:09:21,185 --> 00:09:23,813 {\an8}would be bumped to the top of the site, 153 00:09:23,896 --> 00:09:26,190 and all the other ones would fall away and die. 154 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:27,274 [man screaming] 155 00:09:27,316 --> 00:09:29,694 {\an8}[Beran] The game was to post something interesting, 156 00:09:29,777 --> 00:09:31,529 that was funny, that people would reply to, 157 00:09:31,612 --> 00:09:34,657 that would essentially survive on the site more than a second. 158 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:39,495 [Fuxnet] You're constantly getting new content, and it just keeps you hooked. 159 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:43,749 That was the beginning of the format of what became social media nowadays, 160 00:09:43,833 --> 00:09:45,835 what they call the endless scroll. 161 00:09:45,918 --> 00:09:48,254 [digital whooshing] 162 00:09:54,635 --> 00:09:58,556 [Kirtaner] We were just watching this thing grow and evolve 163 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:01,976 and slowly take over all of our minds. 164 00:10:02,059 --> 00:10:04,061 [dark, distorted music playing] 165 00:10:09,775 --> 00:10:11,986 [Alt] What the 4chan users didn't know 166 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:16,490 was that 2channel's effect on Japanese society was profound. 167 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:21,495 2channel spawned all sorts of extreme behavior. 168 00:10:21,579 --> 00:10:22,705 [dark music continues] 169 00:10:22,788 --> 00:10:24,540 [Alt] Like the Neomugicha incident, 170 00:10:24,624 --> 00:10:28,461 where a kid who had been egged on by 2channel users 171 00:10:28,544 --> 00:10:29,754 hijacked a city bus, 172 00:10:30,588 --> 00:10:34,133 and he actually killed one of the passengers with a knife. 173 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:39,597 It sparked a whole lot of debate 174 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:43,643 about the impact of having a totally anonymous website. 175 00:10:43,726 --> 00:10:48,606 [speaking Japanese] Undoubtedly, the internet is a hotbed of crimes. 176 00:10:48,689 --> 00:10:52,777 People are posting irresponsible comments because it's anonymous. 177 00:10:53,277 --> 00:10:56,238 [Alt, in English] The things that we saw happening in Japan 178 00:10:56,322 --> 00:10:58,449 were about to come to the West, 179 00:10:58,532 --> 00:11:00,701 but we just didn't know it yet at the time. 180 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:07,166 - [upbeat music playing] - [crowd cheering] 181 00:11:07,249 --> 00:11:10,252 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, otaku of all ages, 182 00:11:10,336 --> 00:11:13,839 welcome to the 2005 Otakon show. 183 00:11:13,923 --> 00:11:15,383 [crowd cheering] 184 00:11:16,092 --> 00:11:20,054 [man 1] Otakon is an anime convention that started in Baltimore. 185 00:11:20,137 --> 00:11:22,515 At the time, it was one of the largest in the country, 186 00:11:22,598 --> 00:11:26,018 and where the very first official 4chan panel happened. 187 00:11:27,395 --> 00:11:31,524 Going from spending so much time on 4chan 188 00:11:31,607 --> 00:11:37,363 to being in a physical space with thousands of people was pretty surreal. 189 00:11:37,863 --> 00:11:40,700 Growing up, I lived a very sheltered life. 190 00:11:40,783 --> 00:11:43,744 {\an8}I was bullied in grade school, my parents weren't supportive, 191 00:11:43,828 --> 00:11:46,872 {\an8}no one cared about what I was interested in and what I was into. 192 00:11:46,956 --> 00:11:49,834 {\an8}And I'm just like, I gotta find some way of dealing with this. 193 00:11:49,917 --> 00:11:53,129 And so, going into the anime scene was kind of an escape for me. 194 00:11:54,046 --> 00:11:57,967 I can drop the pretense. I don't have to pretend. I can be who I am. 195 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:00,803 [crowd cheering] 196 00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:03,889 [Will] And I actually did this whole comedy skit, 197 00:12:03,973 --> 00:12:06,350 but as soon as it was over, walked all the way downstairs, 198 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:09,603 and I sat in the front row of the first 4chan panel in 2005. 199 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:12,565 [man 2] This will be on BitTorrent tomorrow. 200 00:12:12,648 --> 00:12:13,774 [man 3 laughing] 201 00:12:13,858 --> 00:12:16,777 [Alt] Up at the front of the room you have the 4chan guys, 202 00:12:16,861 --> 00:12:21,657 who are giving this PowerPoint presentation, or trying to... 203 00:12:22,283 --> 00:12:25,995 about this new website that they'd made. 204 00:12:26,078 --> 00:12:28,247 [Amanda] Despite everyone being completely anonymous, 205 00:12:28,330 --> 00:12:31,333 it felt like there were these people that were kind of celebrities. 206 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:34,545 It was funny because we hadn't even posted our photos before, 207 00:12:34,628 --> 00:12:36,839 no one knew what we looked like. 208 00:12:36,922 --> 00:12:39,592 {\an8}People didn't really think moot was actually a person. 209 00:12:39,675 --> 00:12:40,801 Come up here. 210 00:12:40,885 --> 00:12:45,055 Moot is in this room, and he's coming up on stage right now. 211 00:12:46,098 --> 00:12:47,558 Oh my God! 212 00:12:48,851 --> 00:12:50,186 [man 4] That's not moot. 213 00:12:50,978 --> 00:12:52,021 Bullshit. 214 00:12:52,104 --> 00:12:53,731 Hi. I'm known as moot. 215 00:12:53,814 --> 00:12:55,274 - [crowd cheering] - [man 4 boos] 216 00:12:55,357 --> 00:13:00,279 [Snacks] Moot was this teenage boy wearing a blue Polo shirt, with chubby cheeks, 217 00:13:00,362 --> 00:13:02,490 and a New York Yankees hat. 218 00:13:02,573 --> 00:13:04,200 I don't know what I was expecting, 219 00:13:04,283 --> 00:13:07,411 but moot definitely wasn't what anyone was expecting. 220 00:13:07,495 --> 00:13:09,163 [upbeat synthesizer music playing] 221 00:13:09,246 --> 00:13:12,750 [Fuxnet] There was a little bit of a celebrity to it, you know? 222 00:13:12,833 --> 00:13:14,794 This was moot, the guy who created 4chan. 223 00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:20,341 And then we browsed over three million pages a day, and that's a lot of porn. 224 00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:22,468 - [crowd laughing] - [moot] Elsewhere... 225 00:13:23,677 --> 00:13:27,223 [Snacks] I think the most exciting thing about doing a panel with our users 226 00:13:27,306 --> 00:13:30,935 was realizing that this is bigger than we thought it was. 227 00:13:31,018 --> 00:13:34,146 - [crowd chattering] - [man 5] Wrong way! 228 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:37,900 You can see thousands of posts per day from all over the world, 229 00:13:37,983 --> 00:13:41,487 but not realize how you are affecting these people. 230 00:13:43,113 --> 00:13:46,283 We weren't really seeing ourselves as anything special. 231 00:13:46,367 --> 00:13:48,494 We were just a bunch of kids having fun 232 00:13:48,577 --> 00:13:52,456 {\an8}that somehow made something that was bigger than us. 233 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:54,708 {\an8}[distorted laughter] 234 00:13:54,792 --> 00:13:59,088 [Beran] 4chan establishes itself as this goofy, creative place, 235 00:13:59,171 --> 00:14:00,840 and these jokes they're creating, 236 00:14:00,923 --> 00:14:03,425 they start to make their way outside of 4chan. 237 00:14:03,968 --> 00:14:08,347 An early popular meme was linked to something someone really wanted to see. 238 00:14:09,557 --> 00:14:11,016 ["Never Gonna Give You Up" playing] 239 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:14,728 And instead, it would link to Rick Astley singing "Never Gonna Give You Up." 240 00:14:14,812 --> 00:14:16,873 - People got "Rickrolled." - [song distorting, ending] 241 00:14:16,897 --> 00:14:18,566 [newscaster] A friend sends you a link, 242 00:14:18,649 --> 00:14:22,069 but when you click on the link, up pops this instead. 243 00:14:22,152 --> 00:14:24,113 ["Never Gonna Give You Up" playing] 244 00:14:24,196 --> 00:14:25,364 You've been Rickrolled. 245 00:14:25,447 --> 00:14:26,490 [whimsical music playing] 246 00:14:26,574 --> 00:14:29,493 [Fuxnet] We were essentially trolling people. 247 00:14:30,286 --> 00:14:32,288 Trolling is like performance art. 248 00:14:35,291 --> 00:14:39,253 The idea is to digitally pants someone and have everyone point and laugh. 249 00:14:41,338 --> 00:14:43,549 At least, that's the fun spirit of it. 250 00:14:44,049 --> 00:14:44,967 [creepy laughter] 251 00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:47,887 So, they got together and wanted to do these collective pranks, 252 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:51,098 and they would all say, "Let's go mess with this person." 253 00:14:51,181 --> 00:14:53,142 "Let's go and ruin other websites." 254 00:14:53,225 --> 00:14:54,643 [whimsical music continues] 255 00:14:54,727 --> 00:14:57,688 [Fuxnet] Habbo Hotel was an online browser-based game. 256 00:14:57,771 --> 00:14:59,607 It was a chatroom essentially, 257 00:14:59,690 --> 00:15:03,611 but you could go to different virtual spaces. 258 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:06,864 There was a rumor that Habbo Hotel 259 00:15:06,947 --> 00:15:09,950 was removing users who were using Black avatars. 260 00:15:10,743 --> 00:15:12,870 The 4chan users decided, 261 00:15:12,953 --> 00:15:16,957 hey, we're going to create Black characters with Afros and suits, 262 00:15:17,041 --> 00:15:18,584 and we're going to go en masse 263 00:15:18,667 --> 00:15:22,880 onto Habbo Hotel and just block access to entire areas. 264 00:15:24,048 --> 00:15:26,592 [Kirtaner] We were blocking the entrances to the pool. 265 00:15:26,675 --> 00:15:30,638 The infamous phrase "Pool is closed due to AIDS." 266 00:15:31,555 --> 00:15:35,392 Other hijinks. We would take all of our characters and form a swastika. 267 00:15:36,268 --> 00:15:39,104 - Yeah, I know. We were dumb kids. - [music ends] 268 00:15:39,188 --> 00:15:43,359 Maybe, looking back on it, it probably was not as innocent as 269 00:15:43,442 --> 00:15:45,736 people catching onto it might have assumed, 270 00:15:45,819 --> 00:15:47,237 but it didn't feel like that. 271 00:15:47,321 --> 00:15:49,281 It felt like people were just being stupid. 272 00:15:49,365 --> 00:15:53,994 But then it did start to shift to people actually, like, trolling in real life. 273 00:15:54,578 --> 00:15:58,165 [woman] My six-year-old and eight-year-old half-Black grandchildren 274 00:15:58,248 --> 00:16:00,542 are not welcome in my subdivision's pool. 275 00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:03,563 [newscaster] Some try to explain it away as part of an internet phenomenon, 276 00:16:03,587 --> 00:16:06,090 and those who don't know of it are left out of the joke. 277 00:16:06,173 --> 00:16:07,800 Didn't feel inherently mean. 278 00:16:07,883 --> 00:16:11,345 It just felt like, okay, everyone's doing this. This is funny. 279 00:16:11,428 --> 00:16:12,304 [somber music playing] 280 00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:14,390 [woman] A joke is when two people laugh. 281 00:16:14,932 --> 00:16:16,016 I'm not laughing. 282 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,601 [newscaster] During our interview, 283 00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:19,728 Altorfer learned of a second flyer at the pool. 284 00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:22,022 It's a picture of me with an afro? 285 00:16:22,773 --> 00:16:27,236 {\an8}And I tell myself it's just a bunch of racist, homophobic geeks. 286 00:16:27,319 --> 00:16:30,155 {\an8}[Fuxnet] People started recreating Habbo Hotel in person 287 00:16:30,239 --> 00:16:32,825 and this culture spawned out of it. 288 00:16:32,908 --> 00:16:36,704 We were growing up online together, 289 00:16:36,787 --> 00:16:38,330 figuring things out. 290 00:16:38,414 --> 00:16:41,583 We didn't know necessarily what was right or wrong. 291 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:44,586 {\an8}We didn't know what kind of culture we were building. 292 00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:48,549 {\an8}We weren't really aware of those things, but we were building them. 293 00:16:48,632 --> 00:16:50,592 [somber music continues] 294 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:54,388 [Fuxnet] And that became a problem for the people who ran 4chan. 295 00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:58,267 So moot banned raids. 296 00:17:00,144 --> 00:17:02,646 {\an8}[Kirtaner] We were all having so much fun, and 297 00:17:03,897 --> 00:17:06,525 it got clamped down on really quickly. 298 00:17:06,608 --> 00:17:09,778 And we weren't having any of that. 299 00:17:10,988 --> 00:17:14,074 [Snacks] I think the Otakon meetup really inspired moot 300 00:17:14,158 --> 00:17:17,494 to try and make 4chan more of a social thing, 301 00:17:17,578 --> 00:17:19,038 like Facebook or something, 302 00:17:19,121 --> 00:17:22,166 than like the anonymous culture that he began with. 303 00:17:22,249 --> 00:17:23,584 I disagreed, 304 00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:27,921 we argued about it, and then I did have my server access removed by moot. 305 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,300 That was that. I was gone. 306 00:17:33,218 --> 00:17:35,012 Moot ain't the boss of us. 307 00:17:35,095 --> 00:17:37,639 We want to do what we want, and we're going to have some fun. 308 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:42,186 And in that moment an identity started to form. 309 00:17:42,269 --> 00:17:45,272 We all collectively started referring to ourselves, 310 00:17:45,355 --> 00:17:48,859 and our merry band of chaos-stirrers... 311 00:17:48,942 --> 00:17:50,569 Anonymous. 312 00:17:50,652 --> 00:17:52,696 [ominous music playing] 313 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:55,866 It coalesced into an identity, ironically. 314 00:17:55,949 --> 00:17:59,661 You know, you think "anonymous," you don't think of an identity, 315 00:18:00,370 --> 00:18:04,416 but an identity formed around this one single word. 316 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,961 [ominous music continues, overlaid with distorted digital sounds] 317 00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:11,590 [creepy high-pitched giggling] 318 00:18:14,676 --> 00:18:16,470 [childlike voice] Ah-ahh. 319 00:18:17,846 --> 00:18:19,348 [screaming] 320 00:18:19,973 --> 00:18:21,975 [digital distortion effects] 321 00:18:22,476 --> 00:18:24,478 [echoing, distorted laughter] 322 00:18:25,896 --> 00:18:27,356 [music fades out] 323 00:18:31,151 --> 00:18:35,823 [Kirtaner] Habbo Hotel showed that you could enact retribution 324 00:18:35,906 --> 00:18:39,576 towards someone or something that we felt deserved it. 325 00:18:40,744 --> 00:18:45,541 And this obviously attracted people that wanted to join in the fun and chaos. 326 00:18:48,585 --> 00:18:49,878 The big breakout raid. 327 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:53,966 There was a neo-Nazi radio show host. His name was Hal Turner. 328 00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:56,361 {\an8}- Welcome to The Hal Turner Show. - [intense music playing] 329 00:18:56,385 --> 00:19:00,305 {\an8}For some reason or another, all these lower cultures and lower races 330 00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:03,475 {\an8}are more important. And I find that disgusting. 331 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:07,187 {\an8}[Kirtaner] He made himself a target just by being who he is. 332 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:08,981 He had a phone number you could call. 333 00:19:09,064 --> 00:19:10,440 {\an8}[Turner] Where you calling from? 334 00:19:10,524 --> 00:19:12,085 [Kirtaner] We did a lot of prank calls... 335 00:19:12,109 --> 00:19:13,360 [Turner] Thomas, you're on air. 336 00:19:13,443 --> 00:19:16,780 [Thomas] Well, I was born and raised in West Philadelphia, 337 00:19:16,864 --> 00:19:19,449 - played b-ball outside the school and all. - [Turner] Right. 338 00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:22,369 [Thomas] Just one little fight and my mom got scared, 339 00:19:22,452 --> 00:19:24,663 sent me to live with some relatives down in Bel-Air. 340 00:19:24,746 --> 00:19:28,625 [Turner] And he's out of here too! Another asshole. 341 00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:30,794 ...and drove him into an absolute frenzy. 342 00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:33,189 [Turner] "Hal Turner was right. I should've paid attention, 343 00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:36,383 but I was too busy being a fucking moron on the radio!" 344 00:19:36,466 --> 00:19:39,052 Hal Turner Show. Who are you? Where you calling from? 345 00:19:39,136 --> 00:19:42,848 He would always react and escalate things. 346 00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:45,434 [Turner] You sit there like a stupid motherfucking asshole... 347 00:19:45,517 --> 00:19:50,772 I don't want to imply that all the people that were trolling Hal Turner 348 00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:52,733 {\an8}were anti-racists. 349 00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:55,527 {\an8}A lot of them just wanted to fuck with people. 350 00:19:55,611 --> 00:19:58,113 We trolled him mercilessly for months. 351 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:02,492 - Hello, this is Kirt. I run 420chan. - [Turner] You've had a lot of fun with me. 352 00:20:02,576 --> 00:20:04,536 [Kirtaner] We kept his show offline for 10 weeks. 353 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:08,665 [Turner] You are not going to kick me off my own server. 354 00:20:08,749 --> 00:20:13,378 We hacked into his email account, found emails between him and his FBI handler, 355 00:20:14,254 --> 00:20:16,131 outed him as an informant. 356 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:19,259 He got ostracized from the white supremacist community, 357 00:20:19,343 --> 00:20:21,678 - his wife filed for divorce... - [intense music ends] 358 00:20:21,762 --> 00:20:24,598 ...and in the end he was the one that went to jail. 359 00:20:24,681 --> 00:20:27,935 [Turner] I'm in Essex County jail. Internet tough guy and all, 360 00:20:28,018 --> 00:20:30,562 {\an8}but I got to tell you, I am not cut out for where I am. 361 00:20:30,646 --> 00:20:31,480 {\an8}[music restarts] 362 00:20:31,563 --> 00:20:35,567 If something drew the ire of Anonymous, it suffered. 363 00:20:35,651 --> 00:20:36,691 - [clicking] - [music ends] 364 00:20:37,361 --> 00:20:38,987 [keyboard clacking] 365 00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,739 [dog barking in distance] 366 00:20:43,283 --> 00:20:45,619 [man] A lot of times when you do something groundbreaking, 367 00:20:45,702 --> 00:20:48,789 you only know it was groundbreaking when you look back at it. 368 00:20:48,872 --> 00:20:51,792 But while you're doing it, it's just the thing that's happening. 369 00:20:51,875 --> 00:20:53,627 [gentle music playing] 370 00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:56,672 [man] During the Hal Turner raids, I did some of the phone calls. 371 00:20:56,755 --> 00:20:58,799 The content of them, I'm not proud of anymore, 372 00:20:58,882 --> 00:21:02,552 {\an8}but at the end of the raid, you look back, and you start questioning. 373 00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:04,388 {\an8}We put a white nationalist in jail. 374 00:21:04,972 --> 00:21:08,558 Well, that was a good thing. What... What else can we do? 375 00:21:09,851 --> 00:21:12,896 {\an8}[Beran] So, they looked for someone they can test their strength against, 376 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:15,607 {\an8}and they settle on the Church of Scientology. 377 00:21:15,691 --> 00:21:18,694 [distorted digital effects] 378 00:21:18,777 --> 00:21:21,113 [Fuxnet] Scientology was a relatively new religion. 379 00:21:21,196 --> 00:21:24,992 It was started by a science fiction author, L. Ron Hubbard. 380 00:21:25,075 --> 00:21:28,537 And they used celebrities to make the church into a global powerhouse. 381 00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:29,913 [mysterious music playing] 382 00:21:29,997 --> 00:21:33,959 [Fuxnet] There was an internal Church of Scientology video 383 00:21:34,042 --> 00:21:38,046 that leaked to the internet of Tom Cruise being over-the-top. 384 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:39,256 [laser blast effects] 385 00:21:40,132 --> 00:21:42,134 [narrator] There is a worldwide arena 386 00:21:42,217 --> 00:21:45,554 where the game is played for the fate of whole populations, 387 00:21:45,637 --> 00:21:50,475 but there's someone advancing Scientology on a fully epic scale. 388 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:56,898 {\an8}[in increasingly dramatic voice] He is IAS Freedom Medal of Valor winner Tom Cruise! 389 00:21:56,982 --> 00:21:58,483 [electronic music playing] 390 00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:01,069 There's nothing part of the way for me. 391 00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:02,821 - [laughing] - [rock music playing] 392 00:22:02,904 --> 00:22:04,656 It's just... [mimicking blast off] 393 00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:07,242 [music fades out] 394 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:10,871 Watching this video, it's hilarious how crazy he sounds. 395 00:22:10,954 --> 00:22:14,541 It was supposed to only exist in a way where it gets shown to Scientologists. 396 00:22:14,624 --> 00:22:17,461 So, it's internal, and they do not want the world to see it. 397 00:22:18,086 --> 00:22:19,629 [Fuxnet] And then, all of a sudden, 398 00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:24,092 the Church of Scientology got it removed from all over the internet. 399 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:27,888 Oh, they're trying to control the flow of information on the internet? 400 00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:29,306 Oh, we can't have that. 401 00:22:29,389 --> 00:22:30,432 [mysterious music playing] 402 00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:33,060 [Housh] But Scientology was not an easy target. 403 00:22:33,143 --> 00:22:35,312 Back in, I believe, 1991, 404 00:22:36,063 --> 00:22:41,860 they sued Time magazine for a article that was titled "Cult of Greed." 405 00:22:42,444 --> 00:22:45,822 And so most media were not talking about Scientology, 406 00:22:45,906 --> 00:22:47,616 no matter what Scientology did wrong. 407 00:22:47,699 --> 00:22:50,660 [Fuxnet] There were rumors of people leaving the church 408 00:22:50,744 --> 00:22:52,537 who were then being harassed, 409 00:22:53,288 --> 00:22:55,832 or mysteriously committing suicide. 410 00:22:55,916 --> 00:22:58,877 Secrecy surrounded Scientology. 411 00:22:59,586 --> 00:23:02,255 [Housh] So, what if we, as a group, 412 00:23:02,339 --> 00:23:06,718 could make this so outlandish and so large of a thing 413 00:23:06,802 --> 00:23:09,721 that the media would have no choice but to cover it? 414 00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:11,223 That would be a win. 415 00:23:11,306 --> 00:23:12,182 [music ends] 416 00:23:12,265 --> 00:23:16,103 [distorted electronic voice speaking] 417 00:23:26,446 --> 00:23:29,616 [Housh] So, we uploaded the message onto YouTube, 418 00:23:29,699 --> 00:23:33,370 and went to sleep not expecting it to do too terribly much. 419 00:23:33,453 --> 00:23:34,996 {\an8}[phone ringing] 420 00:23:36,623 --> 00:23:41,628 {\an8}[Housh] I wake up the next morning to a phone call from my girlfriend, 421 00:23:41,711 --> 00:23:43,338 {\an8}and she's like, "It's on CNN." 422 00:23:44,798 --> 00:23:49,094 {\an8}So, I turn on the damn TV, and they play the video twice while I'm watching. 423 00:23:49,177 --> 00:23:51,577 {\an8}[distorted electronic voice] We are Anonymous. We are legion. 424 00:23:51,638 --> 00:23:54,433 {\an8}We do not forgive. We do not forget. 425 00:23:54,516 --> 00:23:57,978 [Housh] Suddenly, everyone online was expecting direction. 426 00:23:58,061 --> 00:23:59,729 [rhythmic electronica playing] 427 00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:02,983 [Housh] We came up with the name Operation Chanology. 428 00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:06,570 The idea was, they've got buildings in every major city on this planet, 429 00:24:06,653 --> 00:24:11,324 hundreds of them, so what would the internet look like if it went outside? 430 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:14,911 [Kirtaner] But we also needed an image that sticks with people. 431 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:17,581 [in robotic voice] This goddamn guy. 432 00:24:17,664 --> 00:24:19,249 [wheezing laughter] 433 00:24:19,332 --> 00:24:22,419 [in regular voice] V for Vendetta was a hot film at the time. 434 00:24:22,502 --> 00:24:23,795 These masks were everywhere. 435 00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:26,465 The aesthetic that was defined by the Habbo Hotel raids, 436 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:28,800 the suit and the tie, and the afro, 437 00:24:28,884 --> 00:24:32,721 then melded with the Guy Fawkes mask. 438 00:24:32,804 --> 00:24:36,183 [rhythmic electronica rising] 439 00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:40,562 We assumed that worldwide 200 people would show up outside. 440 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,858 We start watching Sydney, the first city to go live. 441 00:24:44,941 --> 00:24:48,570 And within an hour, there's 200 people on the ground there. 442 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:52,032 {\an8}Then Perth and Adelaide and Melbourne, and all them start going. 443 00:24:52,115 --> 00:24:56,161 We thought, 'cause they were smaller than Sydney, we would end up with 20 people. 444 00:24:56,244 --> 00:24:57,662 No, they all get hundreds. 445 00:24:57,746 --> 00:25:02,709 {\an8}By the time we get to Germany, we're up over like 4,000 people. 446 00:25:02,792 --> 00:25:04,878 So, we're just losing our minds. 447 00:25:04,961 --> 00:25:08,215 We're here with a protester. He's known as... 448 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:09,174 Anonymous. 449 00:25:09,257 --> 00:25:13,220 A web-based group called Anonymous has been picketing and protesting 450 00:25:13,303 --> 00:25:16,223 in front of the Church of Scientology in Boston and elsewhere. 451 00:25:16,306 --> 00:25:19,392 [newscaster] The virtual protest came to life in cities around the world. 452 00:25:19,476 --> 00:25:22,771 And today, dozens of those people put on masks in downtown Toronto 453 00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,147 in an unusual standoff. 454 00:25:24,231 --> 00:25:28,777 {\an8}Their goal is to shut down what they call a cult of misinformation and greed. 455 00:25:29,653 --> 00:25:33,031 We are Anonymous. We are legion. Expect us! 456 00:25:33,114 --> 00:25:35,534 - [protestors] Expect us! - [rhythmic electronica continues] 457 00:25:35,617 --> 00:25:38,703 [Housh] By the end of the day, we're counting somewhere near 10,000 people 458 00:25:38,787 --> 00:25:40,956 have shown up worldwide to our protests. 459 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,666 [protestors] ♪ Never gonna give you up ♪ 460 00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:45,085 {\an8}♪ Never gonna let you down ♪ 461 00:25:45,168 --> 00:25:48,672 [Kirtaner] Anonymous was, from that point forward, 462 00:25:49,965 --> 00:25:53,009 a globally recognized force for good. 463 00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:56,388 [mysterious music playing] 464 00:25:56,471 --> 00:25:57,639 {\an8}[Beran] That's absurd, right? 465 00:25:57,722 --> 00:26:01,560 Like, this weird anime website that kind of morphs into this other thing 466 00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:04,563 decided to have a semi-ironic street protest against, like, 467 00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:07,440 a celebrity science-fiction cult. 468 00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:15,824 {\an8}Chanology really showed an entire generation of people that 469 00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:18,034 you could organize something anonymously 470 00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:20,078 that would have a real-world effect. 471 00:26:20,161 --> 00:26:21,371 [dark, distorted effects] 472 00:26:21,454 --> 00:26:24,374 [Kirtaner] Putting forward an idea online, 473 00:26:24,457 --> 00:26:27,294 having it manifest in the world, 474 00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:29,796 - it's a powerful feeling. - [creepy distorted laughter] 475 00:26:29,879 --> 00:26:32,215 [Kirtaner] You start to enjoy the feeling 476 00:26:32,299 --> 00:26:35,885 of inflicting that pain that you feel on others. 477 00:26:35,969 --> 00:26:39,514 It's a way to escape it, to take control of it. 478 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:42,267 It's ultimately harmful to everyone. 479 00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:46,187 - [dark, distorted effects end] - Things started out very centralized, 480 00:26:46,271 --> 00:26:47,939 and then after Chanology 481 00:26:48,523 --> 00:26:52,277 it became a formless, shapeless beast. 482 00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:56,615 For a while, in the invasion community, 483 00:26:56,698 --> 00:27:01,578 I was perhaps one of the only voices who would chime in every now and then and go... 484 00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:05,040 [reading] 485 00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:10,321 [Kirtaner] We were just trying to have fun, have our kicks. 486 00:27:10,378 --> 00:27:14,215 All these rah-rah good guys and stuff. No, we are not good fucking people. 487 00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:16,343 We are goddamn monsters... 488 00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:19,512 [reading] 489 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:24,643 So, at the same time that they're doing these very earnest protests, 490 00:27:24,726 --> 00:27:28,188 they're still spinning these crazy nihilistic pranks on the world. 491 00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:30,273 They post on Oprah's message board. 492 00:27:30,357 --> 00:27:33,193 Let me read you something that was posted on our message boards 493 00:27:33,276 --> 00:27:36,613 from someone who claims to be a member of a known pedophile network. 494 00:27:36,696 --> 00:27:40,575 Oprah reads that to her entire audience of seven million moms. 495 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:42,202 He doesn't forgive. 496 00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:43,161 He does not forget. 497 00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:47,540 His group has over 9,000 penises, and they're all raping children. 498 00:27:47,624 --> 00:27:49,334 [Beran] It's grotesque, right? 499 00:27:49,417 --> 00:27:53,046 [Fuxnet] People were just being shitty, being mean, 500 00:27:53,129 --> 00:27:54,756 just for the fun of it, 501 00:27:55,256 --> 00:27:59,010 and trying to take it to its limits. 502 00:27:59,094 --> 00:28:01,638 I will readily admit I was one of those people. 503 00:28:01,721 --> 00:28:03,306 [growling] 504 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:05,809 {\an8}[Kirtaner] It's just jokes. It's just edgy, subversive humor. 505 00:28:05,892 --> 00:28:07,435 {\an8}[electronic warbling] 506 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,897 If you were in on the joke, you were just laughing your ass off. 507 00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:16,361 [Beran] So, Anonymous really kind of splits in these two directions. 508 00:28:16,444 --> 00:28:19,614 Half the group goes off and becomes genuine activists, 509 00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:21,491 and the irony melts away there. 510 00:28:21,574 --> 00:28:26,287 And there's a section of Anonymous that wants to be trolls still. 511 00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:28,957 ["Never Gonna Give You Up" playing on car stereo] 512 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,292 - [driver] Ooh. - [singing] ♪ Give you up ♪ 513 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:34,212 [Amanda] Otakon felt so different. 514 00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:36,506 The community was so much bigger. 515 00:28:36,589 --> 00:28:40,176 - [woman 1] The best day of my life. - [woman 2] Look at all these costumes. 516 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:46,516 [Beran] Instead of anime characters, you had people dressed up as memes from 4chan. 517 00:28:47,809 --> 00:28:49,477 [man 1] 4chan's where it's at, man. 518 00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:51,938 [all] Fuck you! 519 00:28:52,939 --> 00:28:54,941 [Will] I was asked to host a panel. 520 00:28:55,024 --> 00:28:58,695 I'm friends with moot. I just was folded into the entourage. 521 00:28:58,778 --> 00:29:01,656 - [Will] Any last words? - We're gonna have a great time today. 522 00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,909 - All right, we'll take another question. - [man 2] Hi, come on up here. 523 00:29:04,993 --> 00:29:08,329 I'm looking around, and I'm like, yeah, these are my people, 524 00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:10,665 but there's something wrong with this. 525 00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:13,376 ["1st of May" by Der Blaue Reiter playing] 526 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:15,003 [woman 3] Aw! 527 00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:16,921 [scattered laughter] 528 00:29:17,797 --> 00:29:18,798 [music fades out] 529 00:29:18,882 --> 00:29:22,343 [Housh] Kids literally started throwing Sig Heils, like, in real life. 530 00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:25,096 For the most part, we just kind of brushed it off. 531 00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:26,389 These are the few. 532 00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:29,100 Maybe, they don't necessarily represent all of us. 533 00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:30,393 [somber music playing] 534 00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:35,899 People felt more comfortable doing or saying stuff than they had previously. 535 00:29:35,982 --> 00:29:40,487 Saying racially charged things, just incredibly offensive stuff. 536 00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:42,947 Because they feel comfortable with their little group, 537 00:29:43,031 --> 00:29:45,033 they feel like maybe there's no consequence. 538 00:29:45,116 --> 00:29:46,242 [crowd chanting] 539 00:29:46,326 --> 00:29:49,162 [Beran] If I could go back in time, and if you had told me that, 540 00:29:49,245 --> 00:29:51,331 "You're walking through this anime convention, 541 00:29:51,414 --> 00:29:54,334 and this is a pivot point upon which history will turn." 542 00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:58,922 Now, looking back at it, it feels like a premonition. 543 00:29:59,005 --> 00:30:04,719 [Fuxnet] It was very stark contrast to all the goodness that you saw, 544 00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:07,472 the community, the friendship you saw at the convention. 545 00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:12,143 It made it more apparent that there was some bad things happening 546 00:30:12,227 --> 00:30:14,896 and it was leaking over into the real world. 547 00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:17,065 On the first day, 548 00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:19,275 - moot created 4chan... - [crowd whooping] 549 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:23,613 ...and said, "Lo, this is 4chan, bringer of pain." 550 00:30:23,696 --> 00:30:24,948 [woman 4] Hallelujah! 551 00:30:25,031 --> 00:30:27,033 [crowd cheering] 552 00:30:29,077 --> 00:30:31,788 On the second day, moot created Anonymous. 553 00:30:31,871 --> 00:30:33,873 [crowd cheering] 554 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,962 [Will] I had to make a decision as to whether I was going to participate or not. 555 00:30:39,045 --> 00:30:42,382 And me being part of this is endorsing it, it's making it okay, 556 00:30:42,465 --> 00:30:44,300 and I don't want it to be okay. 557 00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:46,261 Thank you, Will. 558 00:30:46,344 --> 00:30:49,430 [man 3] I stopped going to conventions. I stopped cosplaying. 559 00:30:50,807 --> 00:30:53,309 The long and short of this is that I had to grow up. 560 00:30:54,394 --> 00:30:58,147 [Amanda] There was a huge shift in, like, the greater part of the community 561 00:30:58,231 --> 00:31:01,067 felt more like it was... 562 00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:02,193 just trolling. 563 00:31:02,819 --> 00:31:04,737 Rape train! Rape train! 564 00:31:04,821 --> 00:31:08,366 It started to kind of outweigh the funny stuff. 565 00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,452 It was kind of scary, honestly. 566 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:21,588 [keyboard clacking] 567 00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:24,048 [Fuxnet] The older I got, the more mature I got, 568 00:31:24,132 --> 00:31:28,303 I became interested in disturbing the balance of power. 569 00:31:31,681 --> 00:31:34,225 You know, my hope was that 570 00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:38,062 this force would be able to be wielded 571 00:31:38,563 --> 00:31:39,689 for good. 572 00:31:39,772 --> 00:31:43,192 [distorted digital droning] 573 00:31:43,276 --> 00:31:44,527 [ambient music playing] 574 00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:49,240 [Beran] As this sort of decentralized, anti-establishment collective is growing, 575 00:31:49,324 --> 00:31:51,534 the political landscape is changing. 576 00:31:51,618 --> 00:31:55,288 Obama came in promising hope and change, 577 00:31:55,371 --> 00:31:57,206 but he didn't really deliver on that. 578 00:31:57,999 --> 00:32:01,461 So, that expectation that wars would end, 579 00:32:01,544 --> 00:32:03,671 that Wall Street would get punished, 580 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:07,300 that something would happen, melts into resentment. 581 00:32:07,884 --> 00:32:11,012 That's the moment people say, "Now we have to go outside the system." 582 00:32:11,095 --> 00:32:13,097 [ripping] 583 00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:18,603 [Fuxnet] You started to see a lot more people support the idea 584 00:32:18,686 --> 00:32:21,230 of vigilante justice online. 585 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,984 [Housh] We could actually get some change done if we wanted it. 586 00:32:25,068 --> 00:32:26,736 We had a hand to play in this. 587 00:32:26,819 --> 00:32:28,821 [shattering] 588 00:32:29,822 --> 00:32:31,699 [creepy digital warbling] 589 00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:36,371 [Housh] The hand we thought we had was destructive. 590 00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,999 We thought we were going to just start laying waste to the things that existed 591 00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:43,670 in order to force them to build something else up in the ruins. 592 00:32:44,671 --> 00:32:48,925 [Fuxnet] And Occupy Wall Street seemed like a vehicle for that. 593 00:32:53,262 --> 00:32:54,597 {\an8}[music fades out] 594 00:32:54,681 --> 00:32:57,976 {\an8}Occupy Wall Street was being pushed by a group out of New York, 595 00:32:58,059 --> 00:32:59,644 and it wasn't going anywhere. 596 00:33:01,187 --> 00:33:03,606 They were gathering in Zuccotti Park to protest. 597 00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:05,525 They wanted to take on the financial industry, 598 00:33:05,608 --> 00:33:08,069 and get some of these people arrested who deserved it. 599 00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:12,365 We stepped up with the large megaphone that we had and said 600 00:33:12,448 --> 00:33:14,617 {\an8}Anonymous is standing behind these people. 601 00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:17,036 {\an8}We started putting out material for it. 602 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,832 {\an8}The media were like, "Great, Anonymous is involved. Now we'll talk about it." 603 00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:24,836 We begin this morning with the protest movement that began near Wall Street 604 00:33:24,919 --> 00:33:27,046 - and is gaining strength. - [newscaster 1] Anonymous. 605 00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:29,465 Now, they're evolving into this movement of social change. 606 00:33:29,549 --> 00:33:32,552 A real driving force behind the Wall Street occupiers. 607 00:33:32,635 --> 00:33:35,948 - [man] Tell me what democracy looks like! - [all] This is what democracy looks like! 608 00:33:35,972 --> 00:33:40,268 [Fuxnet] Right off the rip, Occupy Wall Street was a big hit with Anonymous. 609 00:33:40,351 --> 00:33:44,772 It was regular people occupying public space. 610 00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:46,065 [mysterious music playing] 611 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:49,819 {\an8}It's an attractive story for the media to see a vigilante group 612 00:33:49,902 --> 00:33:52,530 {\an8}that can't be identified, can't be tracked down, 613 00:33:52,613 --> 00:33:55,158 but anyone can be in Anonymous. 614 00:33:55,241 --> 00:33:56,659 [man 2] People have had it. 615 00:33:56,743 --> 00:33:59,954 They know that their country is headed in the wrong direction. 616 00:34:00,997 --> 00:34:05,293 [Beran] It felt like there was no way to say what Occupy Wall Street was saying. 617 00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:08,838 That these big power structures that are over people's heads, 618 00:34:08,921 --> 00:34:12,050 that no one really likes, there are actually ways to attack them. 619 00:34:12,133 --> 00:34:15,053 Maybe there's ways to dismantle them. Anonymous was part of that. 620 00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:19,640 [newscaster 2] Today thousands of union workers marched in solidarity. 621 00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:24,103 [newscaster 3] It's in every US state and more than 100 cities. 622 00:34:24,187 --> 00:34:28,691 It was a global effort, and a lot of people were riding that wave. 623 00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:32,236 [protestors chanting] We are the 99%! 624 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,948 I was watching the live streams constantly. 625 00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:37,241 Tax the rich! 626 00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:40,953 [Fuxnet] The energy around Occupy 627 00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:45,041 definitely made people feel like a change could be around the corner. 628 00:34:50,046 --> 00:34:52,048 [distant police sirens] 629 00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:59,806 And the response by the state was as aggressive as possible. 630 00:34:59,889 --> 00:35:04,185 {\an8}[protestors chanting] Shame on you! Shame on you! Shame on you! 631 00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:08,815 If you refuse to leave the park, you'll be subject to arrest. 632 00:35:09,732 --> 00:35:12,276 {\an8}[Beran] The state felt they had to destroy them, 633 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,696 and really rip apart that idea, which they perceived as a threat. 634 00:35:16,906 --> 00:35:20,284 They're treating us like we're some kind of violent people. 635 00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:23,412 - This is so sad. This is America. - [protestors screaming] 636 00:35:23,496 --> 00:35:25,498 [somber music playing] 637 00:35:37,844 --> 00:35:41,013 [man] It was a period of time when I think the world was in uproar. 638 00:35:41,097 --> 00:35:43,558 {\an8}I'd heard about it and the things Anonymous had done. 639 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:47,395 {\an8}And so I wanted to be there to offer my experience and skills. 640 00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:51,607 But I was just kind of attracted to hacking 'cause it was anti-authoritarian, 641 00:35:51,691 --> 00:35:54,193 and those ideals kind of spoke to me. 642 00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:56,279 [people clamoring] 643 00:35:57,113 --> 00:36:00,616 Because the police brutally repressed these protest movements in the streets, 644 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,203 I escalated things a little bit by going after the police and government. 645 00:36:04,287 --> 00:36:08,416 A group of online pranksters has embarked on a type of hacking payback. 646 00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:10,751 [newscaster 4] Retaliation for what it called brutality 647 00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:13,254 against Occupy Wall Street protesters. 648 00:36:13,337 --> 00:36:15,631 [Hammond] To be honest, there's a point in time when I had 649 00:36:15,715 --> 00:36:17,550 more targets than the time to work with. 650 00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:19,903 [reporter 5] Hacking the Baldwin County Sheriff's Office... 651 00:36:19,927 --> 00:36:22,054 {\an8}DPS breached by a group of hackers... 652 00:36:22,138 --> 00:36:25,516 {\an8}A notorious hacking group has targeted Rupert Murdoch's newspapers. 653 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,312 They were just having a good time doing these high-profile crimes. 654 00:36:29,395 --> 00:36:32,106 {\an8}The CIA's website, for the US Senate's website... 655 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:36,569 [newscaster 6] Law enforcement websites in Birmingham, Boston, were also hacked. 656 00:36:37,153 --> 00:36:39,506 [Hammond] There was kind of, like, "I have nothing to lose." 657 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:43,284 {\an8}They were able to take down FBI.gov for a brief period of time. 658 00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:45,661 [newscaster 7] Now Anonymous is taking a victory lap. 659 00:36:45,745 --> 00:36:51,083 I was hacking at night, and then waking up and going to work and school. 660 00:36:51,167 --> 00:36:54,420 We had the momentum and the power. 661 00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:56,047 We were in control. 662 00:36:56,130 --> 00:36:59,550 [newscaster 8] The agents didn't know there was a third party on the line. 663 00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:02,553 The target of the call, Anonymous, was listening in. 664 00:37:02,637 --> 00:37:05,556 [Housh] I would be happy taking down the entire system. 665 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,016 Burn it all to the ground. 666 00:37:07,099 --> 00:37:08,851 It seems that a week doesn't go by 667 00:37:08,935 --> 00:37:12,104 without a significant story about hacking or cyberattacks. 668 00:37:12,188 --> 00:37:14,398 And the Pentagon is now singling out Anonymous 669 00:37:14,482 --> 00:37:18,486 as an example of the serious new cyber threats facing the country. 670 00:37:20,863 --> 00:37:24,033 [Fuxnet] This one night, it's like 3:00 in the morning. 671 00:37:24,116 --> 00:37:26,118 [suspenseful music playing] 672 00:37:26,702 --> 00:37:29,997 [Fuxnet] And all of a sudden, I got a private message... 673 00:37:30,581 --> 00:37:33,876 from an alias of Jeremy Hammond. 674 00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:36,712 He had a sense of urgency. 675 00:37:38,005 --> 00:37:40,216 He needed help with hacks 676 00:37:40,299 --> 00:37:44,387 and was literally giving me specific targets to go after 677 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:49,767 and giving me all the information I needed to compromise those targets. 678 00:37:50,601 --> 00:37:52,228 Which is kind of unheard of. 679 00:37:52,311 --> 00:37:54,438 It's like somebody giving you the keys to a car 680 00:37:54,522 --> 00:37:56,565 and saying, "Hey, can you steal this car for me?" 681 00:37:56,649 --> 00:37:58,317 [car tires screeching in distance] 682 00:37:58,401 --> 00:38:01,028 [Fuxnet] It was unlike any kind of conversation that we had 683 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:02,655 prior to this point. 684 00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,991 That left me feeling very uneasy. 685 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:08,995 [suspenseful music continues] 686 00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:10,621 [Fuxnet] The next morning, 687 00:38:11,163 --> 00:38:14,417 I had an opening shift at my job, 688 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,586 and I get a text message from a friend of mine. 689 00:38:18,879 --> 00:38:21,048 A news story had just dropped. 690 00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:23,759 [newscaster 1] Some members of the computer-hacking organization 691 00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:25,761 known as Anonymous are no longer anonymous. 692 00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:28,723 [newscaster 2] Jeremy Hammond is one of five suspected hackers 693 00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:30,016 arrested by the FBI. 694 00:38:30,099 --> 00:38:31,099 [camera clicking] 695 00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:34,562 They had been watching me, like, come and go out of my apartment. 696 00:38:34,645 --> 00:38:35,646 [camera clicking] 697 00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:38,050 [newscaster 3] Hammond was arrested at his Bridgeport home. 698 00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:40,651 He remembers smoking marijuana with friends 699 00:38:40,735 --> 00:38:44,155 when heavily armed federal agents tossed in a flashbang grenade. 700 00:38:44,238 --> 00:38:45,281 [man shouting] 701 00:38:45,364 --> 00:38:49,118 They are already in the front door. They were also busting in my window. 702 00:38:49,827 --> 00:38:52,038 The cops were definitely looking for my laptop. 703 00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:54,749 They wanted to seize my laptop while it was running, 704 00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:57,752 and I had it set up to where if you close the lid of the laptop, 705 00:38:57,835 --> 00:38:59,337 it would require a password. 706 00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:01,047 So that would deter them from being 707 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,424 able to recover the contents of my hard drive. 708 00:39:04,884 --> 00:39:09,096 So, I walked two steps towards my computer and shut the laptop just in time. 709 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:13,142 [Fuxnet] I was scared for myself. 710 00:39:14,018 --> 00:39:18,356 I realized that it wasn't Jeremy that was messaging me, 711 00:39:18,439 --> 00:39:22,234 it was the FBI, and they were trying to entrap me. 712 00:39:22,318 --> 00:39:24,320 [sirens sounding] 713 00:39:25,571 --> 00:39:30,785 [Fuxnet] When I got home, I immediately started wiping all of my hard drives. 714 00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:33,704 And left the next day. 715 00:39:36,415 --> 00:39:39,543 [Kirtaner] I have nothing to do with any of this, but I freaked out, 716 00:39:39,627 --> 00:39:43,589 and anything that I could find on the first five to ten pages of Google, 717 00:39:43,672 --> 00:39:45,049 I blew it all away. 718 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:49,303 If there was a Wiki article that named me, I wiped it. 719 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,141 That's the moment that I made myself disappear. 720 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:58,854 Tried to bury the past as much as I could. 721 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:03,275 Just completely exited that world. 722 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:06,821 For a long, long, long time. 723 00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,741 [music fades out] 724 00:40:11,992 --> 00:40:15,162 [digital distortion effects] 725 00:40:17,164 --> 00:40:19,542 [Beran] The FBI effectively broke up that group. 726 00:40:23,587 --> 00:40:26,799 And when they did that, the Anonymous bubble collapsed. 727 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:30,428 [dot-matrix printer printing] 728 00:40:32,179 --> 00:40:35,599 [Hammond] Unfortunately, they brute forced the password to my laptop. 729 00:40:36,475 --> 00:40:37,601 It took them six months. 730 00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:42,565 My password was named after my cat. Chewy12345. It was at least 10 characters. 731 00:40:42,648 --> 00:40:43,482 [cell door closing] 732 00:40:43,566 --> 00:40:46,652 [Hammond] In the end, I was sentenced to 10 years, the statutory maximum. 733 00:40:46,735 --> 00:40:49,655 Those who wrote letters, visited, attended court dates, 734 00:40:49,738 --> 00:40:51,550 - I appreciate you. - [melancholy music playing] 735 00:40:51,574 --> 00:40:54,869 [Fuxnet] There was definitely this feeling of disappointment. 736 00:40:54,952 --> 00:40:59,540 You know? I mean, I think a lot of us had high hopes for Anonymous 737 00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:02,084 and what could come next. 738 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,675 I spent the next months, uh, on trains, 739 00:41:09,758 --> 00:41:12,511 Greyhound buses, 740 00:41:12,595 --> 00:41:15,806 taxis going all over the country. 741 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:20,811 I was afraid to talk to my friends and family because that might lead to me 742 00:41:20,895 --> 00:41:22,438 being compromised in some way. 743 00:41:22,521 --> 00:41:26,817 It was one of the loneliest experiences I've had in my life. 744 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:28,944 [melancholy music continues] 745 00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:31,572 After Anonymous left 4chan, 746 00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:34,116 the people who were left there 747 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,996 were a great deal of young people who were more despairing than ever. 748 00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,457 [distorted digital burst] 749 00:41:46,253 --> 00:41:50,257 [man] 4chan was appealing because I was very angry at my living situation. 750 00:41:52,468 --> 00:41:55,846 {\an8}It was a place where there were a lot of very angry kids, for many reasons, 751 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:57,139 {\an8}and angry adults too. 752 00:41:57,223 --> 00:42:00,142 {\an8}And the board became, like, depression central. 753 00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:04,021 We're all kind of losers, right? 754 00:42:04,104 --> 00:42:06,750 - [pensive music playing] - That doesn't have to be such a bad thing 755 00:42:06,774 --> 00:42:09,360 and you can kind of make a community out of that. 756 00:42:09,443 --> 00:42:13,906 You started to see users one-upping each other 757 00:42:13,989 --> 00:42:16,325 in terms of who has it worse in life. 758 00:42:17,743 --> 00:42:21,413 I felt like I could usually win those, even though I was pretty young, 759 00:42:21,497 --> 00:42:23,499 because I have this crippling disease. 760 00:42:24,291 --> 00:42:26,168 [whooshing] 761 00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:31,632 [Beran] That feeling of powerlessness that launched Occupy Wall Street, 762 00:42:31,715 --> 00:42:32,967 that didn't go away. 763 00:42:33,676 --> 00:42:38,472 It just sunk into this new, dark, 764 00:42:39,598 --> 00:42:40,975 nihilistic place. 765 00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:43,060 [ominous music playing] 766 00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:57,908 [music fades out] 767 00:42:57,992 --> 00:43:00,995 One of the things that I really liked about going on 4chan was that 768 00:43:01,078 --> 00:43:02,705 I was not supposed to be there. 769 00:43:02,788 --> 00:43:06,667 {\an8}Both culturally, it was sort of designed to repel me, 770 00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:09,086 {\an8}and, literally, they said there were no women there. 771 00:43:09,169 --> 00:43:10,963 [apprehensive music playing] 772 00:43:12,006 --> 00:43:14,592 [Alexander] These young men were experiencing 773 00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:17,011 this profound mass alienation, 774 00:43:17,094 --> 00:43:21,807 and coping with it through extreme humor and sexual and violent imagery. 775 00:43:22,516 --> 00:43:24,685 It became really clear that 776 00:43:24,768 --> 00:43:29,231 there was a desire to cultivate a space that was hostile to women. 777 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,323 At the time, I was a full-time journalist writing about the world of video games. 778 00:43:37,406 --> 00:43:39,241 A game developer called Zoë Quinn 779 00:43:39,325 --> 00:43:42,119 had made an independent game on living with depression. 780 00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:43,871 Depression Quest. 781 00:43:43,954 --> 00:43:48,375 It was a text-based game that didn't have conventional production values. 782 00:43:48,459 --> 00:43:52,338 The game made Zoë controversial as a developer because Zoë was, like, 783 00:43:52,421 --> 00:43:56,342 bringing new voices and new subject matter to the world of video games. 784 00:43:56,425 --> 00:44:01,013 A little while later, Zoë had a disgruntled ex-boyfriend 785 00:44:01,096 --> 00:44:03,724 publish a blog post 786 00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:08,020 about Zoë having a relationship with a games journalist. 787 00:44:08,103 --> 00:44:10,898 I thought that can't possibly be controversial. 788 00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:14,151 But some gamers seized on this blog post 789 00:44:14,234 --> 00:44:19,031 as evidence of a conspiracy that women and gender minorities 790 00:44:19,114 --> 00:44:21,617 were ruining the video games industry. 791 00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:24,411 [man] Depression Quest. [laughing] 792 00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:26,914 It's developed by some dumb bitch named Zoë Quinn, 793 00:44:26,997 --> 00:44:30,417 who had to fuck five guys in gaming media to get positive reviews. 794 00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:33,087 Hey, there's plenty of stupid bitches like her. 795 00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:35,923 [Alexander] That games journalist had never covered Zoë's work. 796 00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:40,344 {\an8}This conspiracy became a harassment campaign against Zoë, 797 00:44:40,427 --> 00:44:42,805 against female video games journalists, 798 00:44:42,888 --> 00:44:46,350 and against anyone who spoke out against the harassment. 799 00:44:46,975 --> 00:44:50,688 They said, you know, "It's about ethics in video games journalism," 800 00:44:50,771 --> 00:44:51,771 and it wasn't. 801 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:57,403 {\an8}They were just trying to find a rationale that explains their disenfranchisement. 802 00:44:57,486 --> 00:45:03,075 {\an8}Zoë Quinn, you are the stupidest person alive. 803 00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:07,079 {\an8}[Alexander] There was this sentiment that women are coming to take our toys away. 804 00:45:07,162 --> 00:45:10,541 This one place where it's supposed to be safe to be a dork, 805 00:45:10,624 --> 00:45:12,710 is now under attack by women. 806 00:45:12,793 --> 00:45:17,047 GamerGate. It's a story about sexism in the world of video gaming. 807 00:45:17,131 --> 00:45:20,259 [newscaster 1] Bomb threats, rape threats, even death threats. 808 00:45:20,342 --> 00:45:24,763 It was nothing but trying to get me to kill myself. 809 00:45:24,847 --> 00:45:27,224 Trying to get people to hurt me. 810 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,479 {\an8}GamerGate is a war on women in this industry. 811 00:45:32,563 --> 00:45:35,315 {\an8}[journalist] Ethics in journalism is not what's happening in any way. 812 00:45:35,399 --> 00:45:39,778 It's actually men going after women in really hostile, aggressive ways. 813 00:45:39,862 --> 00:45:41,196 That's what GamerGate is about. 814 00:45:44,283 --> 00:45:50,998 GamerGate established 4chan as this place of extreme and misogynistic behavior. 815 00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:55,169 And moot was obviously very troubled by this. 816 00:45:55,961 --> 00:45:59,506 He had sort of evolved from that kid with the baseball cap 817 00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:02,342 hiding behind his laptop at Otakon, 818 00:46:02,426 --> 00:46:05,179 into a sort of internet celebrity. 819 00:46:05,721 --> 00:46:07,306 [man] You still live at home, right? 820 00:46:07,389 --> 00:46:09,433 I actually moved out recently. 821 00:46:09,516 --> 00:46:11,185 That's very cool. 822 00:46:11,268 --> 00:46:15,022 [Beran] Once GamerGate occurred on the chans, moot decided to ban it. 823 00:46:16,064 --> 00:46:17,566 Moot said to the GamerGate coalition, 824 00:46:17,649 --> 00:46:19,409 "You're not allowed to talk about this here." 825 00:46:19,485 --> 00:46:20,319 [music ends] 826 00:46:20,402 --> 00:46:22,242 [Brennan] Having seen the Scientology movement, 827 00:46:22,321 --> 00:46:27,159 movements that grow out of chan boards tend to be right in the end. 828 00:46:27,242 --> 00:46:29,995 It was like this infallible belief that I had. 829 00:46:30,078 --> 00:46:32,456 So, when GamerGate happened... 830 00:46:33,207 --> 00:46:36,627 I was definitely a sympathetic audience. 831 00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:38,337 [pensive music playing] 832 00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:40,714 [Brennan] So, after Chris Poole banned GamerGate, 833 00:46:41,298 --> 00:46:44,760 there were a bunch of users that wanted to still talk about it. 834 00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:48,305 They searched on Google "alternatives to 4chan." 835 00:46:48,388 --> 00:46:51,600 They eventually got to, like, page three, which had... 836 00:46:52,434 --> 00:46:56,480 [reading] 837 00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:05,781 8chan, before GamerGate, only had like 100 posts a day. 838 00:47:05,864 --> 00:47:11,912 But after, we had some days where we were getting 7,000 posts in an hour. 839 00:47:13,288 --> 00:47:16,959 [interviewer] Fredrick, you and 8chan are being likened to a hate group. 840 00:47:17,042 --> 00:47:18,544 How do you answer to that? 841 00:47:18,627 --> 00:47:21,547 [Brennan] Someone made a GamerGate board on 8chan, 842 00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:24,341 but it was not founded for the purpose of GamerGate, 843 00:47:24,424 --> 00:47:27,511 {\an8}and it will be around long after GamerGate is over. 844 00:47:27,594 --> 00:47:30,722 [Brennan] The only sources that were taking GamerGate seriously 845 00:47:30,806 --> 00:47:33,684 were very far right sources. Like Breitbart. 846 00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:35,435 [newscaster] Breitbart News, 847 00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:39,731 a bomb-throwing site favored by the so-called alt-right. 848 00:47:39,815 --> 00:47:45,112 A mixture of conservatives and populists, white supremacists, and anti-Semites. 849 00:47:45,195 --> 00:47:49,533 [Brennan] Milo Yiannopoulos wrote a whole bunch of articles about GamerGate. 850 00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:51,593 [Milo] Every community on the internet, 851 00:47:51,618 --> 00:47:56,331 {\an8}4chan, Reddit, or whatever, has a dog in the fight in GamerGate. 852 00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:59,001 Conservatives have missed a huge cultural opportunity. 853 00:47:59,084 --> 00:48:02,713 He knew he was writing this stuff to, like, a 4chan audience. 854 00:48:03,297 --> 00:48:05,757 [Alexander] These gamers were being courted. 855 00:48:05,841 --> 00:48:10,095 Like, "Yes, you are disenfranchised and, yes, women are taking your toys away." 856 00:48:10,178 --> 00:48:14,683 "And, you know, that's happening to us at all levels of government as well." 857 00:48:14,766 --> 00:48:17,144 {\an8}[Beran] Steve Bannon, the owner and publisher of Breitbart, 858 00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:19,563 {\an8}who later became part of the Trump administration, 859 00:48:19,646 --> 00:48:23,901 now understands this group of young, disenfranchised men, 860 00:48:23,984 --> 00:48:25,986 who are angry, who are unhappy, 861 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:28,196 and he says, "They come in through GamerGate, 862 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,866 then we get them turned on to Trump." That was his idea. 863 00:48:30,949 --> 00:48:33,577 [crowd cheering] 864 00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:37,664 I will never let you be the forgotten people again. 865 00:48:37,748 --> 00:48:39,124 We're the forgotten people. 866 00:48:39,207 --> 00:48:40,417 [crowd cheering] 867 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:42,711 I will never let you down. 868 00:48:42,794 --> 00:48:45,672 I promise. I will never ever let you down. 869 00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:51,428 [ominous distortion plays and fades out] 870 00:48:51,511 --> 00:48:55,223 {\an8}What would America look like with an ascendant alt-right? 871 00:48:55,307 --> 00:48:57,100 {\an8}With a Trump in the White House 872 00:48:57,184 --> 00:48:59,895 {\an8}and a Mr. Bannon as the chief of staff, and...? 873 00:48:59,978 --> 00:49:02,230 {\an8}[Milo] It would be so much more fun. 874 00:49:02,314 --> 00:49:05,734 {\an8}It would be full of joy and mischief and laughter and memes. 875 00:49:05,817 --> 00:49:06,817 {\an8}More spontaneous. 876 00:49:07,361 --> 00:49:10,280 {\an8}[Alt] Steve Bannon knew a good thing when he saw it. 877 00:49:10,364 --> 00:49:14,660 {\an8}And by activating what he called the "rootless white males," 878 00:49:14,743 --> 00:49:17,037 in his own words, of 4chan, 879 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,040 he turned them into a political force to be reckoned with. 880 00:49:20,582 --> 00:49:24,795 It played out this way in Japan back in 2002, 881 00:49:24,878 --> 00:49:31,134 with these politicized 2channel users known as the Net Right, 882 00:49:31,218 --> 00:49:37,432 who felt that their own country wasn't doing enough to make Japan great again. 883 00:49:39,309 --> 00:49:41,687 [Beran] What are 4chan and 8chan doing to promote Trump? 884 00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:43,981 They're doing the same thing Anonymous was doing. 885 00:49:44,064 --> 00:49:48,610 Mass pranks, spinning misinformation into the news cycle, 886 00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:51,446 like rumors that Hillary Clinton is sick. 887 00:49:52,406 --> 00:49:53,949 And they're making memes. 888 00:49:54,032 --> 00:49:56,493 [mysterious synthesizer music playing] 889 00:49:56,576 --> 00:50:00,163 [Beran] Which then spread off the chans into the mainstream narrative. 890 00:50:00,747 --> 00:50:04,167 These radicalized young men know that they can poison that well 891 00:50:04,251 --> 00:50:07,337 and spread all this stuff downstream in the culture. 892 00:50:07,421 --> 00:50:09,172 {\an8}That's what 4chan was always doing, 893 00:50:09,256 --> 00:50:11,299 {\an8}but now it was getting more toxic than ever. 894 00:50:11,383 --> 00:50:12,384 [growling] 895 00:50:12,467 --> 00:50:15,929 While this is happening, what is happening on the rest of the internet? 896 00:50:16,513 --> 00:50:18,765 Everyone's experience on the internet 897 00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:22,978 is a monetized corporate form of 4chan. 898 00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:25,856 But it's more dangerous than 4chan 899 00:50:25,939 --> 00:50:30,152 because these newer sites are better at boosting whatever content 900 00:50:30,235 --> 00:50:33,196 will make people stay on the site longer. 901 00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:39,745 [Brennan] What drives user-base numbers and revenue is anger. 902 00:50:39,828 --> 00:50:42,497 - [digital whooshing] - [creepy giggling] 903 00:50:42,581 --> 00:50:45,333 [Beran] So, Facebook or Twitter is making more money 904 00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:49,046 as users are getting angrier and becoming glued to the screen. 905 00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:54,551 And so, as the internet gets 4chan-ified, it's easier than ever 906 00:50:54,634 --> 00:50:57,971 to make really dark, disgusting or screwed up things, 907 00:50:58,055 --> 00:51:02,726 {\an8}and they can let it spawn in that environment until it spreads everywhere. 908 00:51:02,809 --> 00:51:03,809 {\an8}Go ahead. 909 00:51:03,852 --> 00:51:05,270 [crowd cheering] 910 00:51:06,938 --> 00:51:11,943 [newscaster] The Fox News decision desk has called Donald Trump 911 00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:15,572 the 45th president of the United States, 912 00:51:15,655 --> 00:51:20,660 winning the most surreal election we have ever seen. 913 00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:25,624 {\an8}[music fades out] 914 00:51:31,588 --> 00:51:35,467 [Housh] With moot, I did find it really funny that when we all started to leave 915 00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:39,137 and all he was left with was the Nazis... that he quit. 916 00:51:39,221 --> 00:51:42,099 Having an angry mob of 25 million people 917 00:51:42,182 --> 00:51:45,310 who disagree with everything you do is never very fun. 918 00:51:45,393 --> 00:51:46,895 It's not even that I'm burnt out. 919 00:51:46,978 --> 00:51:51,483 It's that I've probably gone through like five burnouts at this point. 920 00:51:51,983 --> 00:51:52,983 [somber music playing] 921 00:51:53,026 --> 00:51:58,198 [Alt] He had founded 4chan as this haven for people who loved stuff from Japan, 922 00:51:58,281 --> 00:52:00,700 and who loved internet hijinks. 923 00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:02,911 He wasn't in it for politics. 924 00:52:04,246 --> 00:52:06,164 [Beran] Moot is exasperated, 925 00:52:06,248 --> 00:52:09,626 and he announces that he's leaving the site. 926 00:52:10,418 --> 00:52:11,753 His parting advice 927 00:52:11,837 --> 00:52:14,631 is that you shouldn't actually be on the internet that much. 928 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:19,010 He says, go out and live your life. There's now a meme for it, "touch grass." 929 00:52:19,761 --> 00:52:23,390 [moot] For people who are angry on the internet, I really, truly hope that 930 00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:27,144 you one day find the beauty in not allowing strangers 931 00:52:27,227 --> 00:52:29,067 and things outside your control to rile you up. 932 00:52:29,104 --> 00:52:33,108 I'm sure you'll add a few extra years to your life by keeping your heart rate down. 933 00:52:34,734 --> 00:52:36,111 [moaning] 934 00:52:36,778 --> 00:52:40,365 [Beran] But the user base, I think, wanted to drag the site in another direction. 935 00:52:41,616 --> 00:52:43,618 [somber music continues] 936 00:52:44,327 --> 00:52:46,413 [Beran] After Trump wins the election, 937 00:52:46,496 --> 00:52:52,043 the people on 4chan and 8chan spreading viral misinformation feel empowered. 938 00:52:52,127 --> 00:52:54,254 It worked, so they keep doing it. 939 00:53:00,677 --> 00:53:03,346 [man 1] After it happened and Trump became president, 940 00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:05,140 I was totally shocked. 941 00:53:08,101 --> 00:53:10,478 {\an8}I was reading the New York Times. 942 00:53:10,562 --> 00:53:13,648 {\an8}They projected Hillary at 90-something-percent to win. 943 00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:18,612 No one thought this could happen from the very beginning, 944 00:53:18,695 --> 00:53:19,905 and it did. 945 00:53:22,824 --> 00:53:25,535 {\an8}At the time, I was a freshman in New York City. 946 00:53:25,619 --> 00:53:28,997 I did swing left. Really far left. 947 00:53:30,165 --> 00:53:31,416 They were painting Trump out 948 00:53:31,499 --> 00:53:35,295 like he was going to be some second coming of Hitler. 949 00:53:36,463 --> 00:53:42,010 {\an8}To someone as ignorant as I was at 18, 19, believing that stuff was horrifying. 950 00:53:42,928 --> 00:53:46,014 On Election Day, my friends are like, "We're doing this march." 951 00:53:46,097 --> 00:53:47,515 "We're going to Trump Tower." 952 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:49,100 {\an8}[protestors chanting] Fuck your wall! 953 00:53:49,184 --> 00:53:50,560 {\an8}[Isaac] It was all-out madness. 954 00:53:50,644 --> 00:53:53,104 [protestors chanting] Fuck Donald Trump! Fuck Donald Trump! 955 00:53:53,188 --> 00:53:54,898 [Isaac] People yelling and screaming. 956 00:53:54,981 --> 00:53:57,692 [protestors chanting] New York hates you! New York hates you! 957 00:53:57,776 --> 00:53:59,819 It was just total rage. 958 00:53:59,903 --> 00:54:01,029 [man 2] Set it on fire! 959 00:54:01,112 --> 00:54:02,572 [woman] Let it all burn! 960 00:54:02,656 --> 00:54:05,033 {\an8}[Isaac] Being in that mob, it was so hateful, 961 00:54:05,116 --> 00:54:08,119 and it sort of hit me like a wrecking ball all at once, 962 00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:11,998 realizing, like, hey, this isn't what I signed up for. 963 00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:14,584 - [man 3] Whose streets? - [all] Our streets! 964 00:54:14,668 --> 00:54:18,088 [Isaac] There was a shift, and a lot of it had to do with 965 00:54:18,171 --> 00:54:20,757 just being extremely curious. 966 00:54:23,885 --> 00:54:26,263 When you're that young, you want to change the world. 967 00:54:26,346 --> 00:54:29,557 It's that same thing of, like, this country is corrupt 968 00:54:29,641 --> 00:54:31,977 and something needs to be done about it. 969 00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:34,396 With Trump, we have this new guy in charge saying, 970 00:54:34,479 --> 00:54:36,398 "We're going to drain the swamp." 971 00:54:37,023 --> 00:54:39,484 We're gonna drain the swamp of Washington. 972 00:54:39,567 --> 00:54:42,654 We're gonna have fun doing it. We're all doing it together. 973 00:54:43,154 --> 00:54:46,574 It gave people some sort of hope that the world could change. 974 00:54:46,658 --> 00:54:48,785 [upbeat music playing] 975 00:54:48,868 --> 00:54:52,372 A lot of Trump's mega fans felt that when he was in the White House, 976 00:54:52,872 --> 00:54:57,585 he would have some kind of clandestine plan 977 00:54:57,669 --> 00:54:59,879 to bring all these people to justice. 978 00:55:00,797 --> 00:55:03,425 [Isaac] But that hope of a radical change 979 00:55:04,009 --> 00:55:06,761 {\an8}that had been promised repeatedly 980 00:55:06,845 --> 00:55:09,931 {\an8}never seemed to happen or come into fruition. 981 00:55:11,850 --> 00:55:15,645 That's when one of the early Q posts came up on my radar. 982 00:55:17,814 --> 00:55:20,608 Someone with the name Q put out a post, 983 00:55:20,692 --> 00:55:23,945 and it would have the same phrase Trump would tweet ten minutes later. 984 00:55:25,905 --> 00:55:29,075 Like, how did they predict President Trump's Twitter? 985 00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:30,702 That's just, like, nuts. 986 00:55:30,785 --> 00:55:33,705 So, it's like, "Let's just show this to people. This is crazy." 987 00:55:34,414 --> 00:55:36,416 This was posted in 4chan. 988 00:55:36,499 --> 00:55:38,835 So, Q posted the triple-plus, 989 00:55:38,918 --> 00:55:44,007 and Donald Trump, seven minutes later, tweeted the triple-plus. 990 00:55:44,090 --> 00:55:45,633 So we know for a fact that Q is real. 991 00:55:45,717 --> 00:55:47,802 [Isaac] And within, you know, a day or two, 992 00:55:47,886 --> 00:55:53,308 I have 20,000 views, a flood of comments that are all positive. 993 00:55:53,391 --> 00:55:56,644 - And it's just this whirlwind of, like... - [music ends] 994 00:55:57,354 --> 00:55:58,480 "What did I just do?" 995 00:55:58,563 --> 00:56:00,940 You know? "What have I stumbled on?" 996 00:56:01,608 --> 00:56:03,026 [mysterious music playing] 997 00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:04,986 [Isaac] The whole idea was, like, 998 00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:09,115 "There's this person on the inside who's sort of leaving us breadcrumbs." 999 00:56:12,285 --> 00:56:14,871 So, he's giving us breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs. 1000 00:56:14,954 --> 00:56:18,124 {\an8}I'm giving you all my breadcrumbs, the whole entire way. 1001 00:56:18,208 --> 00:56:20,752 [Isaac] And it's like, you guys aren't getting the real story. 1002 00:56:20,835 --> 00:56:23,088 {\an8}Here's what's going on behind the scenes. 1003 00:56:23,671 --> 00:56:26,966 {\an8}[Brennan] Trump wanted people to think that he had a plan. 1004 00:56:27,884 --> 00:56:32,347 He set people up to feel like this kind of person would emerge. 1005 00:56:32,931 --> 00:56:36,393 [Isaac on YT] This is his team here. I'm guessing Q is one of these people. 1006 00:56:36,476 --> 00:56:39,687 We have Kushner here, but look at all the thumbs. 1007 00:56:39,771 --> 00:56:43,483 All the thumbs up, they connect to make an actual Q. 1008 00:56:43,566 --> 00:56:45,110 So that was the first hint we got. 1009 00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:50,073 [Isaac] The YouTube channel was growing like wildfire. 1010 00:56:50,698 --> 00:56:53,159 This never happened in the history of the world, 1011 00:56:53,243 --> 00:56:55,620 and it's all happening because of the internet. 1012 00:56:55,703 --> 00:56:58,415 Share the stream, tweet it out, do whatever you want to do. 1013 00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:00,917 Spread the information, that's what QAnon asks us to do. 1014 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,171 [woman 1] Q is a patriot. We know that for sure. 1015 00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:07,841 Many of the things that he has 1016 00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:13,138 {\an8}given clues about and talked about on 4chan and other forums, 1017 00:57:13,221 --> 00:57:15,515 {\an8}um, have really proven to be true. 1018 00:57:15,598 --> 00:57:19,519 [newscaster 1] There was a curious sight at last night's Trump rally in Tampa. 1019 00:57:19,602 --> 00:57:21,855 The letter Q was everywhere. 1020 00:57:21,938 --> 00:57:24,399 [newscaster 2] What was once a baseless conspiracy theory 1021 00:57:24,482 --> 00:57:27,110 has become a mainstream online cult. 1022 00:57:27,193 --> 00:57:28,987 Q is about getting to the truth. 1023 00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:32,198 [woman 2] He knows a lot of the secrets that they have, 1024 00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:34,367 and that's why he's such a threat to them. 1025 00:57:34,451 --> 00:57:38,788 The information he has given us has been extraordinary. 1026 00:57:39,456 --> 00:57:42,041 {\an8}It was a very diverse group, 1027 00:57:42,125 --> 00:57:45,086 {\an8}but ultimately, they're just normal people. 1028 00:57:45,170 --> 00:57:48,381 You know? They have jobs, they have kids, they have families. 1029 00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:50,216 They're... They're working people. 1030 00:57:52,594 --> 00:57:56,598 [Beran] When you talk to people who support QAnon, 1031 00:57:56,681 --> 00:57:59,726 they need some way of expressing 1032 00:57:59,809 --> 00:58:02,937 that they got the short end of the stick. 1033 00:58:03,771 --> 00:58:07,775 You have an elite group of people getting richer and richer using mainstream media 1034 00:58:07,859 --> 00:58:10,445 to say, "Everything's fine. Don't worry about it." 1035 00:58:10,528 --> 00:58:12,614 "I know life is getting tougher for you." 1036 00:58:12,697 --> 00:58:14,616 "That's the truth. We represent the truth." 1037 00:58:14,699 --> 00:58:17,702 Well, what happens is people begin to hate the truth. 1038 00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:22,790 And they end up doing the same thing that 4chan people did. 1039 00:58:22,874 --> 00:58:26,044 They start falling into the internet, falling into fantasy. 1040 00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:28,870 Those smart people at the top, 1041 00:58:28,922 --> 00:58:31,090 they're using the truth to beat me over the head. 1042 00:58:31,549 --> 00:58:33,301 So, I'll invent my own truth. 1043 00:58:33,384 --> 00:58:36,179 It doesn't have to be true, it just has to feel right. 1044 00:58:37,805 --> 00:58:41,518 And little by little, that quote, unquote "truth" just sounded deranged. 1045 00:58:42,101 --> 00:58:45,355 If you're not familiar with the conspiracy theory, it goes like this. 1046 00:58:45,438 --> 00:58:48,983 They think that President Trump is engaged in a secret war 1047 00:58:49,067 --> 00:58:52,820 against Satanic pedophiles in the Democratic Party and Hollywood. 1048 00:58:53,321 --> 00:58:56,991 Hillary Clinton is a Luciferian, Satanist, and so are the Rothschilds. 1049 00:58:57,075 --> 00:58:58,701 So are the rest of the cabal. 1050 00:58:58,785 --> 00:59:02,038 Open your eyes to what's really going on. Oprah Winfrey? 1051 00:59:02,121 --> 00:59:04,290 You really think we can trust Oprah Winfrey? 1052 00:59:04,374 --> 00:59:07,126 These people are trying to drink blood. Why do they do it? 1053 00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:09,295 It's actually a drug, it's called adrenochrome. 1054 00:59:09,379 --> 00:59:13,091 It gives them energy. It makes them feel a little younger, right? 1055 00:59:13,174 --> 00:59:16,052 So it's not like they're doing it for no reason. 1056 00:59:16,135 --> 00:59:19,347 This myth becomes a meme as it grows in popularity, 1057 00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:21,182 as people begin to believe it, 1058 00:59:21,266 --> 00:59:26,062 but 4chan knows that what they're doing is they're putting old 4chan jokes 1059 00:59:26,145 --> 00:59:28,189 in the thing that they're making up. 1060 00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:33,444 For example, CP, that's a code for child pornography. 1061 00:59:33,528 --> 00:59:36,281 So, anything that started with those letters, 1062 00:59:36,364 --> 00:59:40,201 {\an8}cheese pizza, Christopher Poole, Captain Picard, 1063 00:59:41,202 --> 00:59:43,580 these were all old-school 4chan memes. 1064 00:59:43,663 --> 00:59:45,790 [man] Raise your hand if you're a pedophile. 1065 00:59:45,873 --> 00:59:47,959 - Oh, right. Yes. - [all laughing] 1066 00:59:48,042 --> 00:59:51,462 [Beran] It's, you know, pure adolescent nonsense 1067 00:59:51,546 --> 00:59:54,591 that was far removed from what they were joking about. 1068 00:59:54,674 --> 00:59:57,302 But it grows into this outlandish horror story 1069 00:59:57,385 --> 00:59:59,512 - that a lot of people believe. - [music ends] 1070 00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:01,723 [journalist] You are secretly saving the world 1071 01:00:01,806 --> 01:00:05,560 {\an8}from this Satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals. 1072 01:00:05,643 --> 01:00:09,814 {\an8}Does that sound like something you are behind? 1073 01:00:09,897 --> 01:00:13,318 Well, I haven't... I haven't heard that, but, uh... 1074 01:00:13,818 --> 01:00:16,195 is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing? 1075 01:00:16,279 --> 01:00:20,700 New York City, do not let them normalize pedophilia. 1076 01:00:20,783 --> 01:00:23,745 Hollywood is trying to normalize pedophilia. 1077 01:00:24,537 --> 01:00:30,793 QAnon started trying to absorb the iconography, the lingo, 1078 01:00:30,877 --> 01:00:33,671 the messaging tactics of Anonymous. 1079 01:00:34,297 --> 01:00:36,799 And I took that personally. 1080 01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:38,676 [water bubbling] 1081 01:00:39,552 --> 01:00:41,554 [somber music playing] 1082 01:00:42,388 --> 01:00:46,601 [Kirtaner] You know? I was out of the game a couple of years at that point. 1083 01:00:47,185 --> 01:00:50,063 And I tried to ignore them as much as possible, 1084 01:00:50,146 --> 01:00:52,940 but it became a self-propagating troll. 1085 01:00:54,984 --> 01:00:57,111 Your great-grandma's knitting group 1086 01:00:57,195 --> 01:01:00,239 was all of a sudden talking about Q and saving the children. 1087 01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:05,453 Q was just a whole bunch of trolls who were, like, 1088 01:01:05,536 --> 01:01:10,875 "Look at all these fools. They believe it. They actually honestly believe this, 1089 01:01:10,958 --> 01:01:13,795 and, God, ain't this funny, everybody?" 1090 01:01:15,463 --> 01:01:17,608 {\an8}[Fuxnet] And the only way that you can really get there 1091 01:01:17,632 --> 01:01:19,425 {\an8}is if you're an asshole that wants 1092 01:01:19,509 --> 01:01:23,012 {\an8}to make people believe that their thoughts, 1093 01:01:23,096 --> 01:01:25,598 their interpretations of reality are not true, 1094 01:01:25,682 --> 01:01:28,351 and that's harmful. [chuckling] 1095 01:01:28,434 --> 01:01:30,228 That's harmful to everybody. 1096 01:01:31,604 --> 01:01:36,359 All of us who had built the culture started seeing our work being used 1097 01:01:36,442 --> 01:01:39,195 by people we utterly despised. 1098 01:01:39,278 --> 01:01:44,534 And because we all left the chan culture, there was no one there pushing back. 1099 01:01:45,618 --> 01:01:46,703 [purring] 1100 01:01:46,786 --> 01:01:50,164 We've all participated in undermining reality 1101 01:01:50,248 --> 01:01:53,668 with our silly jokes and the conspiracy theories. 1102 01:01:56,629 --> 01:02:01,634 But we never wanted things to turn into a living cartoon. 1103 01:02:01,718 --> 01:02:03,010 [protestors clamoring] 1104 01:02:03,094 --> 01:02:07,265 And we have to understand we have awoken in the midst of a nightmare! 1105 01:02:07,348 --> 01:02:08,808 But we can fight this! 1106 01:02:08,891 --> 01:02:10,852 - [no audible dialogue] - [protestors shouting] 1107 01:02:10,935 --> 01:02:13,521 [Kirtaner] Unfortunately, when you are that far gone, 1108 01:02:13,604 --> 01:02:15,940 there's nothing really you can do. 1109 01:02:16,023 --> 01:02:19,777 All you can do is cross your fingers and hope that eventually 1110 01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:21,446 they will realize that... 1111 01:02:22,697 --> 01:02:23,697 "I've been conned." 1112 01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:24,991 [no audible dialogue] 1113 01:02:25,074 --> 01:02:27,994 [Isaac] I was convinced that it was a real thing. 1114 01:02:28,077 --> 01:02:31,330 But eventually Q started getting a couple things wrong. 1115 01:02:31,414 --> 01:02:32,540 [somber music continues] 1116 01:02:32,623 --> 01:02:35,877 There were, like, dates given, and then it would never happen. 1117 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,421 [Isaac on YT] Like I said, QAnon, right? 1118 01:02:38,504 --> 01:02:42,467 He said March 9th. It's March 20th, guys. Okay? 1119 01:02:42,550 --> 01:02:45,136 Little things like that kept happening again and again. 1120 01:02:45,219 --> 01:02:47,889 We know the storm is upon us. What else do you want me to say? 1121 01:02:47,972 --> 01:02:49,532 These people are going to get arrested. 1122 01:02:49,557 --> 01:02:54,061 There was this big kind of powwow live stream with all the Q influencers, 1123 01:02:54,145 --> 01:02:55,563 kind of like a sales pitch. 1124 01:02:55,646 --> 01:02:57,206 [man 1] It doesn't matter if it's real. 1125 01:02:57,231 --> 01:02:58,649 It's better than Game of Thrones. 1126 01:02:58,733 --> 01:03:01,014 It's better than House of Cards, better than Walking Dead. 1127 01:03:01,068 --> 01:03:03,196 It is the most entertaining thing on the internet. 1128 01:03:03,279 --> 01:03:04,999 [man 2] The content he's discussing is real. 1129 01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:06,616 Whether Q himself is real or not, 1130 01:03:06,699 --> 01:03:08,701 the content he's discussing is 100% genuine. 1131 01:03:08,785 --> 01:03:09,619 [man 1] Yeah. 1132 01:03:09,702 --> 01:03:13,372 [Isaac] Eventually I learned that many of the individuals in that live stream 1133 01:03:13,456 --> 01:03:16,292 were actually behind the QAnon posts. 1134 01:03:18,002 --> 01:03:20,171 And they were just some dudes in a basement 1135 01:03:20,254 --> 01:03:24,383 who gained legitimacy by predicting those Trump tweets. 1136 01:03:25,426 --> 01:03:27,887 [Beran] Q never predicted any of Donald Trump's tweets. 1137 01:03:28,387 --> 01:03:31,516 Trolls simply doctored the timestamps to make it seem that way. 1138 01:03:33,267 --> 01:03:35,895 {\an8}QAnon followers saw what they wanted to see, 1139 01:03:35,978 --> 01:03:37,647 {\an8}and they just ran with the lie. 1140 01:03:38,773 --> 01:03:40,191 [overlapping digital chatter] 1141 01:03:40,274 --> 01:03:42,735 [Isaac] I think it really took advantage of people that 1142 01:03:42,819 --> 01:03:47,240 were looking for answers about themselves, about the world around them. 1143 01:03:48,533 --> 01:03:50,201 - [creaking] - [whooshing] 1144 01:03:50,785 --> 01:03:52,703 [Isaac] It just got to a point where I was like, 1145 01:03:52,787 --> 01:03:56,040 "Okay, I have to tell these people this is not real." 1146 01:03:56,541 --> 01:03:59,335 [Isaac on YT] So, today's the day that Q dies. 1147 01:04:00,002 --> 01:04:04,966 The group behind QAnon is a bunch of manipulative 8chan scammers. 1148 01:04:05,049 --> 01:04:07,134 They were using me to push the Q narrative, 1149 01:04:07,218 --> 01:04:11,722 and it's not good to have this false hope, and the truth needs to come out. 1150 01:04:11,806 --> 01:04:14,851 - [ominous music playing] - [Isaac] It wasn't well-received at all. 1151 01:04:14,934 --> 01:04:18,479 It was a mountain of dislikes and hate comments. 1152 01:04:22,733 --> 01:04:26,612 It was really like me talking to a wall. There's nothing I could have said. 1153 01:04:27,363 --> 01:04:31,450 Once you really realize it's phony, nothing's gonna happen, 1154 01:04:31,534 --> 01:04:33,744 you know, you kind of think like, 1155 01:04:34,412 --> 01:04:36,873 what is going to happen to these people? 1156 01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:39,977 {\an8}[newscaster] The authorities in Nevada say a man barricaded himself 1157 01:04:40,001 --> 01:04:41,502 {\an8}in an armored vehicle 1158 01:04:41,586 --> 01:04:46,048 {\an8}near the Hoover Dam bridge this afternoon, demanding President Trump release reports. 1159 01:04:46,132 --> 01:04:48,551 {\an8}Reports about what, he did not say. 1160 01:04:48,634 --> 01:04:51,012 [newscaster 2] The man accused of murdering reputed mob boss 1161 01:04:51,095 --> 01:04:53,431 Francesco "Franky Boy" Cali appearing in court today. 1162 01:04:53,514 --> 01:04:55,725 {\an8}[newscaster 3] Comello held up his hand in court, 1163 01:04:55,808 --> 01:04:57,518 his palm filled with scribblings, 1164 01:04:57,602 --> 01:04:59,979 including a reference to a conspiracy theory. 1165 01:05:00,062 --> 01:05:03,649 [newscaster 4] Parker Police said she believed her child had been taken 1166 01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:07,236 by a Satanic pedophilia ring of Democrats. 1167 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,320 [YouTuber] This is ridiculous. What this is, folks, 1168 01:05:09,363 --> 01:05:14,243 this is Douglas County getting caught being a child sex trafficking ring 1169 01:05:14,327 --> 01:05:16,913 and trying to go after the person that's outing them. 1170 01:05:16,996 --> 01:05:19,206 [Beran] Things were teetering on a precipice 1171 01:05:19,290 --> 01:05:22,084 and the 2020 election pushed things over the edge. 1172 01:05:23,002 --> 01:05:25,004 [distorted digital burst] 1173 01:05:25,087 --> 01:05:30,676 {\an8}Joseph R. Biden, Jr. is elected the 46th president of the United States. 1174 01:05:31,177 --> 01:05:33,095 {\an8}This is a major fraud on our nation. 1175 01:05:34,055 --> 01:05:37,141 {\an8}We were getting ready to win this election. 1176 01:05:37,224 --> 01:05:39,685 {\an8}Frankly, we did win this election. 1177 01:05:39,769 --> 01:05:40,978 [audience cheering] 1178 01:05:41,062 --> 01:05:43,814 {\an8}[newscaster 1] President Trump appeared in public and falsely claimed 1179 01:05:43,898 --> 01:05:45,942 that he won the 2020 election. 1180 01:05:46,025 --> 01:05:49,654 {\an8}He is still showing no signs of conceding any time soon. 1181 01:05:49,737 --> 01:05:52,031 [protestors chanting] Stop the steal! Stop the steal! 1182 01:05:52,114 --> 01:05:56,786 We're here to tell them that they're not stealing our republic from us! 1183 01:05:56,869 --> 01:06:00,456 [Beran] It was another denial of reality. 1184 01:06:00,539 --> 01:06:02,208 Reconciling Trump's loss 1185 01:06:02,291 --> 01:06:05,670 with a win by creating a fantasy that he, in fact, has won. 1186 01:06:05,753 --> 01:06:08,214 If we look into the way voter fraud is being conducted, 1187 01:06:08,297 --> 01:06:10,299 the way people are throwing away ballots, 1188 01:06:10,383 --> 01:06:13,678 these people are going down, you guys, because these people are cowards, 1189 01:06:13,761 --> 01:06:15,596 they're a bunch of child molesters. 1190 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,724 [newscaster 2] "Stop the steal" has swept across inboxes, 1191 01:06:18,808 --> 01:06:22,061 Facebook pages, and Twitter like an out-of-control virus. 1192 01:06:23,187 --> 01:06:27,441 There was this moment that I don't see written about a lot, 1193 01:06:27,525 --> 01:06:29,151 leading up to January 6th, 1194 01:06:29,235 --> 01:06:30,778 of incredible tension. 1195 01:06:31,487 --> 01:06:37,034 They need to stop the steal tomorrow! Stop the steal! 1196 01:06:37,868 --> 01:06:39,704 [all chanting] Stop the steal! 1197 01:06:40,579 --> 01:06:43,833 Everyone felt it in the air. We didn't know what was going to happen. 1198 01:06:43,916 --> 01:06:46,252 [all chanting] Stop the steal! 1199 01:06:46,335 --> 01:06:48,045 [Beran] Anything could happen. 1200 01:06:50,006 --> 01:06:53,259 [distorted digital humming] 1201 01:06:53,342 --> 01:06:55,636 [horns honking] 1202 01:06:58,514 --> 01:07:01,726 [woman on PA] Delta Airlines is paging Fight For Trump. 1203 01:07:02,768 --> 01:07:04,437 Fight For Trump. 1204 01:07:05,062 --> 01:07:09,984 [passengers chanting] Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! 1205 01:07:10,067 --> 01:07:12,778 [all cheering] 1206 01:07:12,862 --> 01:07:17,950 {\an8}The most important day right now in modern political history is upon us. 1207 01:07:18,034 --> 01:07:19,410 The power is in your hands. 1208 01:07:19,493 --> 01:07:22,496 [protestors] One, two, three, four. USA! USA! 1209 01:07:22,580 --> 01:07:24,957 [Beran] It was an internet-generated event. 1210 01:07:25,583 --> 01:07:28,836 What's up, people? Where you guys from? Let me know. Please tag, people. 1211 01:07:28,919 --> 01:07:30,755 I'm gonna walk you guys... 1212 01:07:30,838 --> 01:07:33,174 I'm gonna walk you all the way out to the crowds. 1213 01:07:33,758 --> 01:07:36,886 [Beran] It's people who love Christ, people who love Trump, 1214 01:07:36,969 --> 01:07:40,014 people who are just conservatives, conspiracy theorists, 1215 01:07:40,097 --> 01:07:41,807 people who are totally deranged, 1216 01:07:41,891 --> 01:07:45,936 and they're all glomming together, and the radical acceptance of all of that, 1217 01:07:46,729 --> 01:07:49,523 because they believed in this mass delusion. 1218 01:07:50,357 --> 01:07:52,610 [man 1] They're storming the Capitol! 1219 01:07:52,693 --> 01:07:54,403 Hell yeah! 1220 01:07:54,487 --> 01:07:56,197 It was wild, you know? 1221 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,365 We'd never seen anything like it. 1222 01:07:59,909 --> 01:08:04,038 There is no historical parallel to the storming of the US Capitol. 1223 01:08:04,121 --> 01:08:05,247 [protestors clamoring] 1224 01:08:05,331 --> 01:08:08,084 But at the time, I wasn't surprised at all. 1225 01:08:08,918 --> 01:08:11,629 [all shouting and cheering] 1226 01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:15,549 [Beran] I'm a reporter, and I was actually there. 1227 01:08:16,050 --> 01:08:20,513 I wandered in the crowd, like, up the Capitol Hill, to the... 1228 01:08:20,596 --> 01:08:24,809 part where the Capitol begins, and it's shrouded in tear gas and smoke. 1229 01:08:25,351 --> 01:08:26,560 [tear gas firing] 1230 01:08:26,644 --> 01:08:28,187 [Beran] And I go around, and I'm like, 1231 01:08:28,270 --> 01:08:30,898 "Excuse me, sir. Why are you invading the Capitol?" 1232 01:08:30,981 --> 01:08:33,150 [man 1] We all feel like, you know, it was fraud, 1233 01:08:33,234 --> 01:08:35,444 and with the evidence and everything... 1234 01:08:35,528 --> 01:08:41,283 And everyone has a little different, precious, deranged internet conspiracy. 1235 01:08:41,784 --> 01:08:44,954 [man 2] If you don't know what an obelisk is, do some research. 1236 01:08:45,037 --> 01:08:47,873 It's Satan's penis, basically. But, anyway, look it up. 1237 01:08:47,957 --> 01:08:50,626 Then you gotta ask yourself, "Why is it in Washington, DC?" 1238 01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:51,752 Each one is different. 1239 01:08:51,836 --> 01:08:52,962 [man 3] The Great Reset? 1240 01:08:53,045 --> 01:08:53,879 [Beran] Yeah. 1241 01:08:53,963 --> 01:08:55,297 [man 3] That's when we go 1242 01:08:55,381 --> 01:08:58,217 to a digital currency and a one-world government. 1243 01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:00,177 The next person would be totally different. 1244 01:09:00,261 --> 01:09:03,931 [man 4] Governor Wolf, in Pennsylvania, shuts my fucking restaurant down. 1245 01:09:04,014 --> 01:09:05,850 Fuck you, Governor Wolf. 1246 01:09:06,433 --> 01:09:08,644 And I would ask them, "What are you reading?" 1247 01:09:08,727 --> 01:09:11,730 [Beran] Is there a certain place where you get your information on Trump? 1248 01:09:11,814 --> 01:09:13,524 [man 5] Yeah, Facebook and Parler. 1249 01:09:13,607 --> 01:09:16,610 [Beran] There had not been a revolution like this before. 1250 01:09:16,694 --> 01:09:19,446 It felt new. It felt like a product of the internet. 1251 01:09:19,530 --> 01:09:21,407 A product of social media. 1252 01:09:22,741 --> 01:09:25,161 [man 6 on radio] I'm the guy with the mask on. Where are you? 1253 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,496 Cobra, over and out. 1254 01:09:29,331 --> 01:09:30,875 [man 7] Break through! 1255 01:09:30,958 --> 01:09:32,585 [all shouting and clamoring] 1256 01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:36,714 [glass shattering] 1257 01:09:38,424 --> 01:09:40,926 - [woman] Whoo! - [protestors yelling] 1258 01:09:43,304 --> 01:09:47,558 - [protestors chanting] Stop the steal! - [alarm beeping] 1259 01:09:48,434 --> 01:09:52,855 [Brennan] Once all of these Trump people raid the building, and they're all inside, 1260 01:09:52,938 --> 01:09:57,318 they don't just walk over the stanchion or, like, over the velvet red rope. 1261 01:09:57,401 --> 01:09:59,195 They walk along it, 1262 01:09:59,278 --> 01:10:01,947 even though they have to go into a little line. 1263 01:10:02,448 --> 01:10:05,075 A lot of them were acting like tourists. They just... 1264 01:10:05,659 --> 01:10:08,787 "Whoa. We did it." You know? 1265 01:10:08,871 --> 01:10:13,709 Like, total just big-eyed deer in headlights, a lot of them. 1266 01:10:13,792 --> 01:10:16,921 [unsettling music playing] 1267 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,507 [Beran] They were surprised themselves. It was as if 1268 01:10:20,591 --> 01:10:22,509 they were wanderers in a dream. 1269 01:10:26,180 --> 01:10:28,057 And to me, that spoke to their... 1270 01:10:28,974 --> 01:10:30,434 deep delusion. 1271 01:10:31,101 --> 01:10:35,856 They were enacting something that was a fantasy on the internet. 1272 01:10:36,941 --> 01:10:42,196 And that it was far removed from the reality of what they were doing. 1273 01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:46,784 They were filming themselves. Putting themselves back on the internet 1274 01:10:46,867 --> 01:10:49,148 as they were doing this from this closed loop. [chuckling] 1275 01:10:49,620 --> 01:10:51,330 Can I speak to Pelosi? 1276 01:10:51,413 --> 01:10:52,915 Yeah? We're coming, bitch! 1277 01:10:52,998 --> 01:10:54,792 [cameraman] Whose office is this? 1278 01:10:55,292 --> 01:10:57,002 Is it on the door? [laughing] 1279 01:10:57,962 --> 01:10:59,088 Oh, my God. 1280 01:11:08,514 --> 01:11:10,516 [unsettling music rising] 1281 01:11:22,695 --> 01:11:23,821 [music ends abruptly] 1282 01:11:26,532 --> 01:11:27,741 [mouse clicking] 1283 01:11:27,825 --> 01:11:32,871 [Fuxnet] Some of us who started this whole long unfortunate series of events 1284 01:11:32,955 --> 01:11:35,624 had to sit there and watch it happen. 1285 01:11:37,751 --> 01:11:41,297 "No. This is where this needs to fucking stop." 1286 01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:42,965 [protestors chanting] USA! 1287 01:11:43,048 --> 01:11:44,466 [man] Fuck yeah! 1288 01:11:45,134 --> 01:11:47,720 [Kirtaner] All these people that were emboldened in the moment, 1289 01:11:47,803 --> 01:11:51,932 they all tried to scrub what they could from the internet. 1290 01:11:53,017 --> 01:11:54,518 [whirring] 1291 01:11:54,601 --> 01:11:57,104 [newscaster] The FBI spent the past week trying to identify 1292 01:11:57,187 --> 01:12:00,566 and locate the people involved in last week's violence and unrest. 1293 01:12:00,649 --> 01:12:03,861 So far, more than 70 people are facing federal charges, 1294 01:12:03,944 --> 01:12:05,529 but many more walking around, 1295 01:12:05,612 --> 01:12:08,991 blending into our communities and evading charges. 1296 01:12:09,074 --> 01:12:11,827 The FBI needs your help to find them. 1297 01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:12,953 [pensive music playing] 1298 01:12:13,037 --> 01:12:15,622 The first time I heard that Kirt might be coming back, 1299 01:12:15,706 --> 01:12:18,751 my first thought was just... It was utter joy. 1300 01:12:18,834 --> 01:12:21,879 This guy is an outright old-school troll 1301 01:12:21,962 --> 01:12:24,256 with the skill set needed to cause some trouble. 1302 01:12:25,466 --> 01:12:29,428 [Kirtaner] So, myself and a few other people got to work. 1303 01:12:31,805 --> 01:12:36,352 Parler was a social network that was used during January 6th. 1304 01:12:36,435 --> 01:12:41,231 We were able to download the entirety of all media that was posted that day. 1305 01:12:42,399 --> 01:12:45,361 And on top of that, who they were communicating with, 1306 01:12:45,444 --> 01:12:48,405 where they went after the fact, where they came from. 1307 01:12:48,489 --> 01:12:51,867 All of it was right there, ripe for the taking, 1308 01:12:51,950 --> 01:12:55,954 and we pulled it all down and released it to the public. 1309 01:12:56,038 --> 01:12:57,998 [digital whirring] 1310 01:12:58,082 --> 01:13:01,835 [Kirtaner] Anonymous de-anonymized everybody. 1311 01:13:01,919 --> 01:13:03,921 [music fades out] 1312 01:13:04,671 --> 01:13:06,215 [Kirtaner] It was poetry in motion. 1313 01:13:06,298 --> 01:13:10,469 This is the environment that I thrive in. I'm just like, who's next, right? 1314 01:13:10,552 --> 01:13:13,305 {\an8}The hacking group Anonymous stole tons of data 1315 01:13:13,389 --> 01:13:16,558 {\an8}from a site that hosts extremist and racist groups. 1316 01:13:16,642 --> 01:13:18,018 [Kirtaner] Epik hosting, 1317 01:13:18,102 --> 01:13:21,688 their client base includes InfoWars, 1318 01:13:21,772 --> 01:13:24,274 the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys. 1319 01:13:25,067 --> 01:13:28,529 - It's a who's who of hate groups. - [mysterious music playing] 1320 01:13:29,988 --> 01:13:32,658 [Kirtaner] All of their customer data, their credit card numbers, 1321 01:13:32,741 --> 01:13:34,410 personal information, 1322 01:13:34,493 --> 01:13:36,161 was all released by Anonymous. 1323 01:13:37,329 --> 01:13:40,582 It was one of the biggest hacks that people had seen in a decade. 1324 01:13:40,666 --> 01:13:42,126 {\an8}Law enforcement's involved, 1325 01:13:42,209 --> 01:13:45,337 {\an8}and we're going to find exactly how it was moved. 1326 01:13:45,421 --> 01:13:47,840 {\an8}No, I'm not in a state of denial. Come on, bro. 1327 01:13:48,590 --> 01:13:50,717 [Kirtaner] When you get on a good win streak, 1328 01:13:50,801 --> 01:13:53,512 you know, you're riding high, you know, 1329 01:13:53,595 --> 01:13:55,806 you kind of get carried away. 1330 01:13:56,932 --> 01:14:00,978 There's kind of an intoxicating aspect 1331 01:14:01,061 --> 01:14:05,190 to the attention that you can get from hacking. 1332 01:14:05,274 --> 01:14:08,944 It can trick you into thinking you're fighting for good. 1333 01:14:09,027 --> 01:14:12,823 But in reality, you're just high off the feeling of having power. 1334 01:14:12,906 --> 01:14:14,908 [ominous music playing] 1335 01:14:14,992 --> 01:14:16,869 [Kirtaner] When you're behind a screen, 1336 01:14:16,952 --> 01:14:19,329 you could wake up one day and say, "You know what?" 1337 01:14:19,413 --> 01:14:21,999 "Today, I'm gonna be the asshole." 1338 01:14:23,083 --> 01:14:24,543 And you can just go out there, 1339 01:14:24,626 --> 01:14:27,004 and you could get it out of your fucking system, 1340 01:14:27,087 --> 01:14:28,505 and see what happens. 1341 01:14:29,006 --> 01:14:31,425 [Fuxnet] It happened with the FBI raids. 1342 01:14:32,092 --> 01:14:33,844 It happened with QAnon. 1343 01:14:34,386 --> 01:14:36,138 You can still see it today. 1344 01:14:36,889 --> 01:14:41,018 I did indeed discover Donald Trump's Twitter password, 1345 01:14:41,101 --> 01:14:44,480 which was Maga2020 with an exclamation mark. 1346 01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:48,650 And he changed a single digit to Maga2024. 1347 01:14:50,694 --> 01:14:53,155 That was the password for realDonaldTrump. 1348 01:14:53,697 --> 01:14:54,865 I had that shit. 1349 01:14:55,365 --> 01:14:57,045 I only know that was his Twitter password. 1350 01:14:57,075 --> 01:15:00,746 I don't know if it's his password anywhere else. I did not go to check... 1351 01:15:00,829 --> 01:15:04,082 I would never, ever encourage people to go do anything, 1352 01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:09,838 but minor variations on that password work in a lot of places. 1353 01:15:09,922 --> 01:15:13,467 [Stephen Colbert] Former President Trump just launched his new social media app, 1354 01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:14,968 Truth Social. 1355 01:15:15,052 --> 01:15:17,554 The site was briefly accessible to the public last night 1356 01:15:17,638 --> 01:15:20,140 and was immediately overrun by trolls 1357 01:15:20,224 --> 01:15:24,102 that posted a photo of a pig defecating on its own scrotum. 1358 01:15:24,186 --> 01:15:25,521 [audience laughing] 1359 01:15:25,604 --> 01:15:29,650 It's pretty funny. We got piggy poop balls on The Colbert Show. 1360 01:15:30,776 --> 01:15:32,444 [Fuxnet] Throughout the years, 1361 01:15:32,528 --> 01:15:37,824 there have been countless people who tried to take the reins of Anonymous, 1362 01:15:37,908 --> 01:15:42,621 but they have not learned from the mistakes that we made in the past. 1363 01:15:44,665 --> 01:15:49,878 Activism should come from a place of understanding 1364 01:15:49,962 --> 01:15:54,132 more so than just anger or fear 1365 01:15:54,216 --> 01:15:58,345 or especially self-aggrandization. 1366 01:15:58,428 --> 01:16:02,099 {\an8}We actually haven't heard Anonymous in a while, to tell you the truth, 1367 01:16:02,182 --> 01:16:04,601 {\an8}but what can you tell us about this hack? 1368 01:16:04,685 --> 01:16:10,065 [Fuxnet] Because of the attention you can gain 1369 01:16:10,148 --> 01:16:14,820 through these tactics, it can have a way of corrupting people. 1370 01:16:14,903 --> 01:16:17,948 [shouting] I am literally in every mainstream media publication 1371 01:16:18,031 --> 01:16:19,908 for the things that I do! 1372 01:16:20,409 --> 01:16:22,494 I'm not an unknown actor! 1373 01:16:23,161 --> 01:16:26,665 I'm literally a famous fucking cyberterrorist! 1374 01:16:27,291 --> 01:16:29,418 And you think that you could scare me? 1375 01:16:29,501 --> 01:16:33,338 What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do to me, huh? 1376 01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:35,424 [birds chirping] 1377 01:16:37,718 --> 01:16:38,760 [approaching footsteps] 1378 01:16:40,304 --> 01:16:41,805 [chatter on police radio] 1379 01:16:43,557 --> 01:16:44,641 [honking] 1380 01:16:46,768 --> 01:16:48,937 [Kirtaner] It was around 11:00 in the morning. 1381 01:16:49,021 --> 01:16:51,106 Couple of cops come around the corner. 1382 01:16:55,944 --> 01:16:57,154 They served me a warrant. 1383 01:16:57,237 --> 01:16:59,740 And, "We're here to search your premises." 1384 01:16:59,823 --> 01:17:05,078 "We're from the, uh, Ontario Police Cyber Crimes Division." 1385 01:17:06,788 --> 01:17:12,169 I wasn't charged, I wasn't detained, but now I'm being investigated for... 1386 01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:15,797 some alleged online activities. 1387 01:17:15,881 --> 01:17:17,299 [ominous music playing] 1388 01:17:20,344 --> 01:17:25,724 They're hauling out my computers, any hard drive storage devices they can find. 1389 01:17:25,807 --> 01:17:30,062 And then towards the end, they're like, "Does he have a Guy Fawkes mask in there?" 1390 01:17:30,145 --> 01:17:32,981 "Yeah." "Oh, yeah. He's got a Guy Fawkes mask." 1391 01:17:33,899 --> 01:17:39,946 I am in a very similar situation as Jeremy Hammond was. 1392 01:17:41,114 --> 01:17:43,742 And that's absolutely fucking terrifying 1393 01:17:43,825 --> 01:17:48,580 because, well, Hammond went to prison for a decade. 1394 01:17:50,791 --> 01:17:55,545 [Fuxnet] What's ironic about 4chan, or any of these digital spaces, 1395 01:17:56,213 --> 01:17:59,049 is that people went there to feel less alone, 1396 01:17:59,132 --> 01:18:01,968 but these spaces only simulate community. 1397 01:18:02,052 --> 01:18:03,804 [unsettling music playing] 1398 01:18:03,887 --> 01:18:08,350 [Fuxnet] It feels like you're fulfilling your wildest fantasies, but in fact, 1399 01:18:09,601 --> 01:18:12,354 you're just experiencing less and less of life. 1400 01:18:16,983 --> 01:18:20,654 You feel like you have it all, when, in fact, you have nothing. 1401 01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:22,197 [thumping] 1402 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,242 You're just alone together. 1403 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,205 [roaring] 1404 01:18:30,872 --> 01:18:32,582 [melancholy music playing] 1405 01:18:45,846 --> 01:18:47,931 [music fades out] 1406 01:18:48,014 --> 01:18:50,016 [insects chittering] 1407 01:18:52,602 --> 01:18:56,398 [Fuxnet] This is the kind of place where, like, you're walking around people, 1408 01:18:56,481 --> 01:18:59,234 they'll make eye contact with you. They want that, "How you doing?" 1409 01:18:59,317 --> 01:19:00,569 [Hatesec] Yeah, that's nice. 1410 01:19:01,278 --> 01:19:03,363 [Fuxnet] As far as the FBI stuff went, 1411 01:19:03,447 --> 01:19:07,743 I got out of it unscathed, with no charges or anything like that. 1412 01:19:08,660 --> 01:19:12,748 The people that I was staying with when I was on my trip around the country 1413 01:19:12,831 --> 01:19:14,833 were people that I've known since the '90s, 1414 01:19:14,916 --> 01:19:17,669 that I met in anime chat rooms, 1415 01:19:17,753 --> 01:19:22,257 and had not met them at all until I left on the run. 1416 01:19:24,092 --> 01:19:30,056 Anonymous was never this mythical unicorn 1417 01:19:30,140 --> 01:19:34,644 of an organization that could fix all of our problems. 1418 01:19:34,728 --> 01:19:37,564 People just believed that it was. 1419 01:19:37,647 --> 01:19:42,819 [all singing] ♪ Never gonna run around And desert you ♪ 1420 01:19:42,903 --> 01:19:44,571 ♪ Never gonna make you cry ♪ 1421 01:19:44,654 --> 01:19:50,243 [Fuxnet] I think I have an understanding of how some of our actions in the past, 1422 01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:54,456 whether we like it or not, have affected 1423 01:19:55,373 --> 01:19:57,250 the reality of things today. 1424 01:19:57,334 --> 01:19:59,711 {\an8}[newscaster 1] Police say he posted a document showing 1425 01:19:59,795 --> 01:20:02,339 {\an8}support for racist conspiracy theories. 1426 01:20:02,422 --> 01:20:04,716 {\an8}[newscaster 2] The Guardian reports 4chan has inspired 1427 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,177 {\an8}at least three other mass casualty attacks, 1428 01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:10,055 {\an8}including a shooting in D.C. just last month. 1429 01:20:11,389 --> 01:20:18,104 [man 1] There has been a string of fake mass shootings with crisis actors... 1430 01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:20,982 [man 2] The Jews want to replace white people because they hate us. 1431 01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:23,226 [man 3] Do your own research and find out for yourself. 1432 01:20:23,276 --> 01:20:25,362 [woman 1] Leaders shape-shift into reptiles. 1433 01:20:25,445 --> 01:20:27,531 [woman 2] They're always eating these children. 1434 01:20:27,614 --> 01:20:29,866 [woman 3] Of course it's not fake, okay? 1435 01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:31,076 [mystical music playing] 1436 01:20:31,159 --> 01:20:34,329 [Beran] We now know that if you spend a lot of time on the screen, 1437 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,415 you can create a mass delusion, 1438 01:20:37,499 --> 01:20:40,418 that reality parts from where you are, 1439 01:20:40,502 --> 01:20:43,547 and you can create something elaborate in your mind 1440 01:20:43,630 --> 01:20:46,258 that is delicate and complicated, 1441 01:20:46,341 --> 01:20:48,885 and it can be this really fascinating thing, 1442 01:20:48,969 --> 01:20:51,805 and you can spend all day obsessing about it with other people. 1443 01:20:53,265 --> 01:20:55,350 It can feel real as anything else. 1444 01:20:55,851 --> 01:20:58,228 - [mystical music continues] - [door slamming] 1445 01:21:00,272 --> 01:21:04,609 [Beran] But what we're doing is building these elaborate grotesque fantasies 1446 01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:06,486 out of our own unhappiness. 1447 01:21:10,991 --> 01:21:15,787 [Alt] Our current moment is really about us as humans. 1448 01:21:17,664 --> 01:21:20,750 And how we're only just starting to learn the effects 1449 01:21:20,834 --> 01:21:23,628 of these tools that we all use. 1450 01:21:25,338 --> 01:21:28,425 We didn't evolve to be online all the time. 1451 01:21:30,302 --> 01:21:34,472 This is an absolutely new moment for the human animal. 1452 01:21:35,849 --> 01:21:38,393 - [unsettling digital effects] - [distorted laughter] 1453 01:21:38,476 --> 01:21:42,230 [Alt] And figuring out how we use these tools, 1454 01:21:42,314 --> 01:21:45,400 that's the question of the next century. 1455 01:21:47,694 --> 01:21:48,987 [bubbling] 1456 01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:51,531 [unsettling music playing] 1457 01:21:54,284 --> 01:21:57,120 [music distorting] 1458 01:22:03,293 --> 01:22:05,045 [music fades out] 1459 01:22:10,508 --> 01:22:12,510 [somber music playing] 1460 01:22:18,892 --> 01:22:21,895 [upbeat music playing] 1461 01:23:39,347 --> 01:23:42,058 [music fades out] 128196

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