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One of the oldest titles
in the British Royal Family is
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the Duke of York -
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traditionally given to the second
son of the ruling monarch.
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Being the younger son, being
the spare is a really difficult
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role, there is no job spec.
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Throughout its 600-year history,
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the House of York has had more
than its fair share of scandal.
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Dukes of York are ripe
for scandal.
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There are always going to be
pitfalls, of course you have all the
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perks and privileges of being royal
and none of the responsibility.
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Some very formidable characters
in our island's history have
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been Dukes of York.
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There's the infamous story
of the princes in the tower who were
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allegedly murdered by their uncle,
Richard III.
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But now the current Duke of York,
Prince Andrew, is facing scrutiny.
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As the second son, Andrew
spent his childhood and of course
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his adult life, he has spent
in the shadow of his older brother.
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A bit naive, but then his judgment
had always been a bit naive.
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Did you have to go by private
jet to Newcastle?
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Yeah, because there was no other
way of getting there and back.
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A naval officer
and celebrated war hero...
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When there are missiles
and things flying around,
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at that precise moment
you are on your own.
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I don't call it escapism at all,
James Bond is escapism.
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And I'm not a Commander yet.
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A playboy Prince once
second in line to the throne.
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I think he was always seen as
Prince Charles said, as the handsome
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one, bit of a favourite
of the Queen, he had a good life.
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He had all the privilege with
none of the responsibility.
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Now caught up in a story that has
shocked the world.
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I think it's fair to say that this
is a scandal of an entirely
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different nature.
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This is by far the most
damaging of allegations.
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Poor old Prince Andrew,
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he rarely seems to be
out of the papers these days.
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Prince Andrew, are you going to
resign, Prince Andrew?
Are you an embarrassment, sir?
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What impact will
the current Duke of York
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have on the future of the monarchy?
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He's never been far away
from controversy, but his connection
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with Epstein, that ill-fated
friendship has inflicted the
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greatest damage on his reputation
as a member of the Royal Family.
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What will this latest scandal
mean for the House of York?
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Within the Royal House of Windsor,
there are several different
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titles, traditionally
bestowed by the monarch.
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Wales, Cambridge, Sussex and York.
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The Duke of York, it's a
very noble title,
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it's traditionally given to the
sovereign's second son.
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Prince Andrew is
the 11th Duke of York,
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and he's now at the centre
of a media frenzy
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following the suicide of disgraced
financier, Jeffrey Epstein.
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And there is an old saying
out there that says,
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tell me who your friends are,
and I'll tell you who you are.
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Prince Andrew certainly isn't
the first Duke of York to
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be at the centre of controversy.
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When one looks at second
sons of monarchs,
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is that they are sort of, they're
a heartbeat away if you like,
from the top role, the top job.
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Dukes of York have over
the course of history
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been rather colourful characters.
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The title Duke of York
goes back to the
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creation of the House of York
in 1385, by Edmund of Langley.
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For over 80 years the title was
passed down through the male
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heirs, until the House of York
became a Royal household.
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In 1461, during the War
of the Roses, Edward, Duke of York
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seized the British throne and became
King Edward IV of England.
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He gave the title Duke of York
to his second son, Richard.
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A tradition that has
continued to this day.
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The first second son to have that
title was Richard, Duke of York.
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And Richard, Duke of York was right
bang in the middle of the Wars
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of the Roses at that time when the
Houses of York and Lancaster both
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which had claims to throne, were
basically fighting for the throne.
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But Richard's life would be
a short one after
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he disappeared in mysterious
and macabre circumstances.
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There's the infamous story
of the princes in the tower who were
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allegedly murdered by their uncle,
Richard III,
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the king in the car park,
as many people know him.
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And allegedly
he killed his nephews in the tower
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because he wanted to be king
himself.
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The story goes that the
nine-year-old Duke of York,
Richard,
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and his older brother, Edward,
were locked away in the Tower
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of London as part of a villainous
scheme to claim the throne.
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Their bodies were never found.
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History holds that their bones are
there in the Tower
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of London.
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With no male heir, the Duke of York
title went into extinction
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with nine-year-old Richard's death.
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But just over a decade later,
after a shift in the monarchy,
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the title was given to the next
second son in line to the
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throne - a certain Henry Tudor.
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Infamous Henry VIII of course was
also a second son,
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he was the second son of Henry the
VII, he wasn't supposed to be king.
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But when his brother,
Prince Arthur died, he not only
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married his former brother's wife,
but he also became king.
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Arguably one of the most notable
Duke of Yorks to become King
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is Prince Andrew's grandfather.
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Some very formidable characters
in our island's history have
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been Dukes of York.
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But perhaps the most significant,
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the one immediately before
Prince Andrew, was King George VI.
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The Queen's much-loved
father on whom
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she pretty much has based
her entire reign.
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So, she holds that position
extremely dear to her.
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The Duke and Duchess of York
with their little daughters,
arrive in the first carriage.
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And Princess Elizabeth lingers
on the steps to take stock of the
scene.
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The abdication of Edward in 1936,
paved the way for Albert,
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the Queen's father, to give
up his title as the Duke of York,
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and become King George VI.
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When the Duke of York realised
that he was going to have to become
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king, he broke down and cried.
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He said, "I don't know
anything about it."
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"I haven't trained to do this job."
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And you certainly do need
training to do that job.
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To be placed in the position
of having to choose between love
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and the throne is one of life's
most tragic dilemmas.
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Even if the dilemma
is of the King's own making.
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It's one of the most pivotal moments
in the history of the British
monarchy.
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Princess Elizabeth is the daughter
of the Duke of York.
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Yes, she probably would have
been a working Royal,
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but her whole destiny was changed.
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And in fact the history of the
British Royal Family was changed.
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Over time the Duke of York role has
become known as the spare heir.
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Being the younger son, being
the spare is a really difficult
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role, there is no job spec for it.
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There are always going to be
pitfalls, of course you have all the
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perks and privileges of being royal
and none of the responsibility.
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The Dukes of York are really ripe
for drama
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and almost inevitably going to be
problematic as they try
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and find a role for themselves
when they don't actually
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have in their sights the big job -
which of course is the crown.
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One of those titles that goes
through the ages and you
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try not live up to a previous one.
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But eventually something comes up
and smacks you in the face.
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Prince Andrew would not receive
his official title of Duke of York
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until his marriage in 1986.
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But from birth
he was in the headlines,
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being the first child born to
a reigning monarch, for 103 years.
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Prince Andrew had a very
happy childhood,
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he came 12 years after
the Prince of Wales was born,
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and of course a little bit after
Princess Anne was born.
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The third of four children,
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it was rumoured that he was
the Queen's favourite.
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I suppose some might say that Andrew
was spoilt far more than
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Charles was. I think family friends
have certainly told me that he
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was, he was the favoured son,
and she had more
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time for Andrew, he was her
golden-haired little angel.
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It's said this perceived favouritism
led to Andrew developing
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certain characteristics.
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He was quite cocky
even from a young age
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and some might call it boorishness.
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He had a reputation as he grew
up at school for being a little
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bit self-entitled,
certainly very aware of who he was,
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a sense of self-importance.
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I think he was always seen, as
Prince Charles said, as the handsome
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one, a bit of a favourite of the
Queen, and he had a good life.
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You know, he had really
all the privilege with
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none of the responsibility.
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In 1979 Prince Andrew would find
a role for himself
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when he joined the Royal Navy
as a helicopter pilot.
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The master is on, SCS,
trims set, lights on.
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He wanted to make the Navy
really his career for life,
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and he was a diligent young officer
with one or two exceptions.
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I mean he has famously said to have
remarked to one senior,
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very senior naval officer that
a senior officer could call him
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H, being short for HRH.
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And the senior officer said,
"And you can call me Sir."
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And that again,
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it gives you an idea
of what the young Andrew was like.
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Basically what I'm here for is to
work the ship up into
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aviation, and also myself
back into the deck, and actually
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getting back on the deck on a dark
night is quite exciting.
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He was a good naval officer,
diligent, hard working.
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Three years later, Prince Andrew was
deployed into the heart
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of the Falklands War despite Prime
Minister, Margaret Thatcher having
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doubts over a young high-profile
Royal going into battle.
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He wasn't there as some
sort of figurehead being tucked
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away from the action.
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He was in the middle of the action,
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flying Royal Navy
helicopters as decoys sometimes.
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So very brave, very important,
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and then clearly a very important
moment in his life.
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Harnesses locked tight at the back
please, and...
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The ruling monarch's second son
fighting on the front line
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captured the headlines.
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At the time, you know, the
Queen's second son to be
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involved in the military
service in this high-profile war,
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the Falklands War that, you know,
was something that the whole
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country were very much glued
to their television screens.
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I mean this really was quite
something really for a Royal
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to be involved in this way.
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When the war ended in 1982,
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Prince Andrew returned to
Portsmouth aboard HMS Invincible.
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And it was a to a hero's welcome.
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I don't think anyone will forget
the images of the war hero prince
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coming back from the Falklands,
you know,
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the golden boy of the Royal Family
with the rose between his teeth.
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And being very much hailed
a national hero.
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When you lie down on the deck and
that's the moment when there are
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missiles and things flying around.
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And that's all there is.
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At that point his reputation was
probably at its absolute peak,
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that was, that was
Andrew's all time high.
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The pride which to see how the
British force
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actually worked together. This
was absolutely amazing.
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It really was.
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After the
Falklands War, you know,
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he was the golden
boy of the British monarchy.
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Upon his return, the Prince's love
life would make front page news.
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Andrew was blessed with the best
looks of the young Windsors.
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And he liked girls,
and girls seemed to like him.
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Most famously he dated beautiful
brunette actress, Koo Stark.
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This was all quite titillating
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and exciting in terms of who
Andrew was dating.
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And I think fuelled that image of
him being a bit of a playboy prince.
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For a long time, people thought
they were incredibly well matched,
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she was a very sexy girl, she shared
many interests that Andrew had.
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And she was sparky,
but she knew how to
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behave, if you like, in Royal
circles.
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Andrew whisked Koo away to the
Caribbean island of Mustique,
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under the alias Mr
and Mrs Cambridge.
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She was even given the Royal
seal of approval.
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Their relationship was so close that
Andrew introduced her to his mother.
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Well, of course that sparked
a frenzy of speculation in the press
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that an engagement announcement was
just around the corner.
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The Royal romance soon
turned to scandal.
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Unfortunately for Andrew
and particularly for Koo,
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she had a past.
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It turned out that, you know, not
only was she an actress,
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but she'd actually appeared in some
pretty risque movies which
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really were the death
knell of the relationship.
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We'd just embarked on
the Diana years, attitudes towards
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the Royal Family were changing,
they were incredibly popular.
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They didn't want to do anything
that might jeopardise this reach
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they had with the public.
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Advisors around the Royal Family
felt that she was
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an unsuitable figure for
Andrew to be seen with,
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which was a great shame
because I think
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they might have made a very
successful team.
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Andrew and Koo eventually split up,
and the Prince
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went on to have a string
of high-profile relationships.
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He definitely had a penchant
for pretty women, I don't think
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it necessarily mattered whether
they were brunette or blonde.
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The girls fell for him, quite
a number of girls fell for him.
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And he had a succession
of girlfriends
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and in those days there weren't many
Royals around to write about,
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and Andrew was ripe for being
written about.
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The media dubbed him "Randy Andy".
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I think the playboy image was rather
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good for the Royal Family, I think
it gave them a dose
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of Hollywood glamour that they were
lacking, and it was quite exciting.
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To some extent the reputation,
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the sort of playboy prince was
deserved, but you know, in the
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same way that you know, young Royal
princes will be young Royal princes.
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The press loved this,
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you could see that this
was Andrew at his prime.
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By the mid 1980s,
despite a reported playboy lifestyle
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and front-page headlines
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the future Duke of York was a
popular member of the Royal Family.
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I think he was brought up to believe
that he was terribly important,
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and just for a few brief
years he was.
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The hopes were high that actually
despite being the spare to the
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heir, he was going to make
a success of this.
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How then did he become embroiled
in one of the Royal Family's
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biggest sandals?
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Prince Andrew, are you resigning?
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I think Prince Andrew's friendship
with Jeffrey Epstein has been
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one of the most damaging things to
happen to the Royal Family
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within the last 30 or 40 years.
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Members of the Royal Family are
often given titles upon marriage.
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And Prince Andrew was no different.
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After marrying Sarah Ferguson
in 1986, his mother, the Queen,
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bestowed on him
the title Duke of York.
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With the Dukedom came a Royal
salary of around £300,000 a year.
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A Royal Duke of York coat of arms
with an emblem made
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up of an English lion,
a Scottish unicorn, and anchor.
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And a brand-new family home,
Sunninghill Park,
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a 12-bedroom mansion in Surrey.
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Being the Duke of York,
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of course a role that comes with all
the perks and privileges,
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life in a palace, a valet, a butler,
his every whim catered for.
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I mean Andrew had all of that, a
life of luxury, a life of privilege.
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Connected by title rather than
blood, Prince Andrew was now
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part of a House and lineage dating
back over 600 years.
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But his chapter as the Duke of York
would not be free from scandal.
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In 1999 Prince Andrew was
introduced to Jeffrey Epstein.
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This acquaintance would go on to
result in one of the House
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of York's biggest controversies.
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Jeffrey Epstein was
a multimillionaire American
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hedge fund manager, who
socialised in the company of rich,
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powerful men, and beautiful women.
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I think they became friends
very quickly,
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Andrew has always been attracted to
rich men and money,
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and Epstein was by all accounts
a charismatic fellow.
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There's one thing in America that
trumps cash - it's royalty.
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Epstein had the cash,
Andrew has the cachet.
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And of course Andrew was
a real life prince.
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Americans love British Royalty.
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In 2008, Jeffrey Epstein was found
guilty of procuring a person
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under the age
of 18 for prostitution.
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And went on to
serve 13 months in prison.
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Prince Andrew's past meetings with
Epstein before he was convicted
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were now under intense media
scrutiny.
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Andrew would invite him
to Balmoral, you know,
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the Queen's private home, Balmoral.
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Invited him shooting at Sandringham,
the Queen's private home in Norfolk.
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He went to Beatrice's 18th birthday
party at Windsor Castle.
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And was really
kind of invited into the heart
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of British society.
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Many assumed that with Epstein
having spent time behind bars,
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the Duke of York would cut
all contact.
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What was so staggering was in 2011,
after Epstein had been
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released from jail, Andrew was
photographed walking with him.
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It was an extraordinary image,
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and the whole story and the scandal
if you like, about Andrew and
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his questionable taste in friends,
really springs from that photograph.
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Andrew felt that he could still
remain on amiable terms with
Epstein.
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A bit naive,
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but then his judgment has always
been a bit naive.
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It was around the time of Epstein's
release that
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a photo of the Duke of York
and Virginia Roberts, now Giuffre,
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appeared in the world's press.
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Although some close to the Prince
claimed it was a fake
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and the story went quiet.
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Four years later things went from
bad to worse for the Duke of York,
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when Virginia Roberts implicated him
in the growing sex scandal.
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Virginia Roberts claimed she'd been
essentially recruited as a very
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young girl by Epstein, and Prince
Andrew had slept with her three
times.
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Prince Andrew strenuously
denied all allegations
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and the accusations were later
thrown out of court after
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the judge ruled them immaterial
and impertinent.
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At the moment these are allegations,
nothing has been proven,
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and in this country, you
are innocent until proven guilty.
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Nonetheless, allegations of this
nature are incredibly damaging.
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Will you recover from this, Sir?
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In 2015, with questions still
looming over the Duke of York, he
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was forced to address the
accusations during a Royal
engagement.
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Firstly, I think I must and want,
for the record, to refer to the
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events that have taken
place in the last few weeks.
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And I just wish to reiterate
and to reaffirm the statements which
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have already been made on my behalf
by Buckingham Palace.
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This was one scandal that
would not go away.
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In July of 2019,
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Jeffrey Epstein was charged with
further counts of sex trafficking.
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He committed suicide in his cell
whilst awaiting trial.
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With the eyes of the press
back on Epstein and his associates,
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Prince Andrew once again became
front page news.
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This time it was a video from 2010,
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and like the photo in Central Park,
it showed the Duke of York
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spending time with Epstein after
the latter's conviction.
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A video of Andrew at Epstein's town
house in Manhattan, you know,
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where there were lots of comings
and goings with young women.
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So the world is saying, how could
he not have known what was going on?
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The Duke of York strongly
denied any wrongdoing.
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But the press continued to ask
serious questions of him.
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Members of the Royal Family
have to be really
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careful about the company they keep,
and I think that the main
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charge against Andrew is
the company he has kept.
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He's guilty of one thing, and that's
poor judgment, of going to see
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Epstein after he was convicted.
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The ultimate lack of judgment
is having a friendship with
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Epstein at all. He sounds like an
evil, you know, dreadful paedophile.
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Prince Andrew's accusers were
turning up the heat.
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In explosive scenes captured outside
a New York courtroom in the summer
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of 2019, Virginia Roberts continued
to accuse the Duke of York.
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On the steps of the court,
Virginia Roberts said,
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and this is incendiary, said
Andrew knows what he has done.
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He knows exactly what he's done
and I hope he comes clean about it.
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Thank you.
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That's what forced Prince Andrew
into issuing his latest statement.
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The Duke of York chose to clarify
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the facts around his relationship
with Epstein by issuing a statement.
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As well as being
appalled by the alleged crimes,
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Prince Andrew claimed that he only
saw Epstein once or twice
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a year, and that he did not see,
witness or suspect any behaviour
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of the sort that subsequently led
to his arrest and conviction.
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I think he was trying to apologise.
It just prolonged the story,
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made everything worse,
and it raised a lot more questions.
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It does beg the question,
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why has it taken him nine years to
respond in the way he has?
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The photograph has been around,
and the allegations,
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since before 2010, why on Earth
didn't he say something then?
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In spite of the negativity
in the press, Her Majesty,
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the Queen has continued to
stick by her son.
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He assured her of this the first
time round in 2011, and
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he assured his mother then that
she had nothing to worry about.
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I was told by a source very
close to the family,
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he has her full support
and after this news had broken
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the Queen was pictured being driven
to church in Scotland with
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her second son,
smiling broadly for the cameras.
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What better way I suppose,
to send out a very clear signal
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and show of support, the Queen was
once again standing by her son.
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It certainly isn't the first time
that the Queen's second son has
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had questions asked of him
by the world's media.
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I think in Royal circles there's
a bit of a despairing
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and wringing of their hands,
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because this wasn't just
a one-off, there has been
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so many questionable decisions that
Andrew has made and there's a
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sense of, for goodness' sake, when
were you going to wise up?
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The comments that are made
about an extravagant lifestyle
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and so forth, is that fair?
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What is
an extravagant lifestyle?
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Travelling by private jet?
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In 2019, the Duke of York, Prince
Andrew, hit the headlines
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following the suicide of convicted
paedophile, Jeffrey Epstein.
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His association with Epstein was
another controversy to
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add to the growing list that has
plagued the House of York.
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Prince Andrew's not the first
Duke of York to be mired
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in controversy, but I certainly
think the Epstein allegations
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are perhaps some of the more serious
in the history of Dukes of York.
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But this latest scandal isn't Prince
Andrew's first brush with the press.
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In 2001, Prince Andrew stepped down
from his military position in the
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Navy to take on a parliamentary
role as the British trade
ambassador.
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There was the question of what's
next for the Duke,
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and this ticked all of the boxes.
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Andrew was determined to make
a success of being trade envoy.
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And I think as an ambassador
for Great Britain, certainly
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in those early days of that role,
I think he did quite a good job.
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I mean he certainly had
pulling power,
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you would hear MPs saying that he
was the greatest asset
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for Britain in terms of trade and
industry, because frankly you get a
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call saying, "Would you like to meet
Prince Andrew the Duke of York?"
"Yes."
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Prince Andrew's Royal profile opened
many doors for British trade.
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Pretty impressive, 6,000 jobs,
and a billion pounds worth
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of investment, I mean that's not
something to be sniffed at, is it?
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It isn't, and what's really
encouraging about that is that, is
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that that's gone into about 931
starting and scaling businesses, and
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97% of those 931 are still operating
today and they're still growing.
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But some also feel that the
Duke of York's new job came with
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other perks.
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Every June, every Royal
Correspondent gets to go to
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Buckingham Palace to look through
the royal accounts.
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And we all go straight to the
travel document.
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Because that's the one
we all understand - how much
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the Royal train costs, how much
those private flights are costing.
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And year after year
he would be at the top of the list.
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Go out on a trade mission either
on a scheduled flight
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or in what used to be
known as a Queen's Flight aircraft.
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And he'd do the business on behalf
of British Trade International.
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And then he'd go off
and get the golf clubs out
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of the boot of the plane,
and go off and play golf.
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The Duke of York's frequent travel
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and mode of transport quickly
garnered him yet another nickname.
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Air Miles Andy was a
nickname
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which refused to
shift for many, many years.
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He was stung by the nickname
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because he thought it was slightly
insulting to him, as though
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he was just sort of gallivanting
around the world having fun.
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Whereas his argument was, look,
he's there on official
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business, he's doing what the
Government asked him to do.
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One year in particular,
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Prince Andrew cost the British
taxpayer over half a million pounds.
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This was seen as not on,
and quite frankly it wasn't on,
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it's not the sort of things you do.
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If you go out and you're there doing
a job of work on behalf
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of UK PLC, you do the job of work,
you come home.
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If you want to go and play golf,
then you make your own arrangements,
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get on an aeroplane and play
for the fare yourself and fly off.
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And unfortunately he didn't do that.
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The Duke of York agreed to a
one-to-one television interview.
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I am not doing this as it were,
for my own good.
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I am not getting any
return for this,
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this is all
done on behalf of the UK.
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It's not done on my behalf.
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If I was doing it, I wouldn't,
I wouldn't, as it were,
463
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,520
allocate my time in this way.
464
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Can I ask you as I inevitably must,
about the criticism that is
465
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,000
sometimes, even often,
levelled at you in this job?
466
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,800
The comments that are made
about an extravagant lifestyle
467
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,560
and so forth, is that fair?
468
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,720
What is an extravagant lifestyle?
Travelling by private jet?
469
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,200
Using helicopters
when you could take a train.
470
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,960
But it is, it is again, it is
471
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:15,080
the maximisation of my time for the
best value for money and that's
472
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,720
the way that... And I'm not
the one that makes those decisions.
473
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:25,040
In truth, it became quite
a problematic role for Andrew.
474
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,160
I think he frequently found himself
having to defend himself,
475
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,160
having to defend the flights
that he was racking up.
476
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,080
That became an issue.
That became more of the story
477
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,680
than Andrew representing Britain
overseas.
478
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,880
And that was a problem.
479
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,760
Did you have to go
by private jet to Newcastle?
480
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,520
Yeah, because there was no other
way of getting there and back,
481
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,040
bearing in mind from
what I was doing before,
482
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,240
and what I was doing afterwards.
483
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,120
On top of the alleged travel perks,
484
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Andrew continued
to be in the headlines.
485
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,280
Once again it was because of the
company he was keeping.
486
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,600
It was the meeting with the Gaddafis
487
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,360
where I think
eyebrows were raised.
488
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,160
He entertained the ousted
former president of Tunisia
489
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,960
at Buckingham Palace.
490
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,120
The fact that Andrew went out
to foster these questionable
relationships
491
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,800
suggests that perhaps
the allure of money, of wealth,
492
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,600
of all of these offshore billions
was incredibly appealing to Andrew.
493
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,360
He's not good at
picking his associates.
494
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,280
He's not good at picking his...
495
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,840
I won't say friends,
but acquaintances.
496
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,200
Bottom line, he's grown up
in palaces and castles,
497
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,600
he's the son of the Queen, he's
used to a certain sort of lifestyle,
498
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,280
so guess what? He mixes
with people who have that similar
499
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,920
sort of jet-setting lifestyle.
500
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Andrew has perhaps been rather
naive and not really perhaps
501
00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:02,200
understood the kind of, at least the
optics of some of what he has done.
502
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,800
I think Andrew felt that he had
this official role as trade envoy
503
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,320
for the UK government
and was doing a great job.,
504
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,080
He's very thin-skinned,
and he takes any kind of criticism
505
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,960
extremely personally,
and angrily, in fact.
506
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,440
The press continued
to question the Duke's
507
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200
suitability
for the trade envoy role.
508
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,440
I think the press became less
supportive over the years, I think.
509
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,000
He was on the receiving end of quite
a lot of criticism. Was it unfair?
510
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,800
I would argue not, because I think
some of the decisions Andrew
511
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,280
made were bad decisions.
512
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,120
Some of the business affiliations
were not clever.
513
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,200
It was at this moment,
with huge pressure
514
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,640
mounting on Prince Andrew's job,
that the photo with
515
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,040
Jeffrey Epstein in Central Park
was released,
516
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,320
sealing the Trade Ambassador's fate.
517
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,480
He mixed business with pleasure,
518
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,720
and if you're going to mix
business with pleasure,
519
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,480
be very careful about the pleasure
that you mix with. And he wasn't.
520
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,120
There was MPs who had described
Andrew as the most glittering
521
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,320
asset for Britain overseas.
522
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,680
That was when those MPs
then turned on the Duke and said,
523
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,160
"He's got to go. This is untenable."
524
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,480
In 2011, Prince Andrew stepped down
from his role as Trade Ambassador.
525
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,520
I think that actually he felt
he wasn't guilty of anything,
526
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,760
but it was undermining
his position as a Trade Ambassador
527
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,560
and embarrassing the Queen
and the Queen's government.
528
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,400
And I think he felt it would be best
529
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,480
if he just stepped aside
at that time.
530
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,720
And I think that it probably stopped
the continual
531
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,080
onslaught in the media,
and that's probably what was needed.
532
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,520
How are you today, Sir?
533
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Within the Royal House of York,
534
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,360
it's not just the Duke who has
received negative publicity.
535
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,000
By his side for many years was
the Duchess of York, Sarah Ferguson,
536
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,520
who was no stranger herself
to scandal and controversy.
537
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Sarah has a very contagious
personality.
538
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,240
Andrew was very much drawn to her.
539
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,600
It was the ultimate Royal fairy
tale in many ways,
540
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,160
and then it all came unstuck.
541
00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:36,480
Prince Andrew has spent most
of his life in the media spotlight.
542
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,080
A celebrated naval officer,
a playboy prince,
543
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,600
and a much talked-about
Trade Ambassador.
544
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,040
He received his official title
from the Queen
545
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,840
and became the eleventh
Duke of York upon marriage.
546
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,480
Fergie and Diana
were very good friends.
547
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,600
And Diana was always trying
to find a boyfriend for Fergie.
548
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,240
And she came up with
the idea of Andrew.
549
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,480
Sarah Ferguson was typical
jolly hockey sticks,
550
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,000
daughter of an army officer,
a polo player.
551
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Skiing all over the Alps
in the winter.
552
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,760
She was always going to be
an interesting addition to
553
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,320
the Royal Family.
554
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,120
And on top of that, she
and Diana got on really well.
555
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,800
Every June,
when attending Royal Ascot,
556
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,800
the Queen has her house party
at Windsor Castle.
557
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,720
And on this occasion Diana invited
Fergie, as she was known,
558
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,240
with her freckles and red hair
and outgoing bubbly humour.
559
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,600
And she and Andrew apparently got on
extremely well, so much so that they
560
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,000
were feeding each other profiteroles
from the dining room table.
561
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,160
It's was at lunch,
wasn't it, that we... Yes.
562
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,440
We were made to sit next
to each other at lunch at Ascot.
563
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440
Yes, and he made me eat chocolate
profiteroles, which I didn't want.
564
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080
I then didn't have any,
so I got hit.
565
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,960
The Queen was delighted.
566
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,200
She has always
really enjoyed Fergie's company.
567
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:12,080
Fergie's a horsewoman, she loves
dogs, she loves country life.
568
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,960
And she's fun, she's...
She's a really special girl,
569
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,000
and the Queen absolutely adored her.
570
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,200
Before long, the couple
had announced their engagement.
571
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,960
Could I ask you, Miss Ferguson,
do you remember what he said?
572
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,880
Absolutely.
But I'm not telling you.
573
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,280
There would have been a sigh
of relief that Randy Andy's
574
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,440
days of hitting
the nightclubs were over.
575
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,120
I mean this was really
the height of popularity
576
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,760
for the Royal Family, the wedding
of Charles and Diana, William
577
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,880
and Harry being born,
and then it was Andrew and Fergie.
578
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,280
Congratulations.
579
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,040
The press were hugely interested
in Andrew and Sarah.
580
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,080
They were tactile, they were loving,
they were everything
581
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,840
that Charles and Diana weren't,
they were a great story.
582
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,760
In 1986, just five months
after becoming engaged,
583
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,040
the pair married
at Westminster Abbey.
584
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson
became the Duke and Duchess of York.
585
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,360
I think what was so exciting
for the press during this period
586
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,080
of, of those Royal marriages
was that for the first time
587
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,240
they had the original fab four.
588
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,680
You know, you had Andrew
and Fergie, Charles and Di,
589
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:29,200
these two very glamorous women, they
were out there on the world stage.
590
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,520
And I think at that period,
you know,
591
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,680
the future was very sunny and
very bright for the Royal Family.
592
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,160
The couple were whisked away
on Royal tours of Canada
593
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,400
and North America, where the
Duchess made quite an impression.
594
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,160
What I remember about that
in particular was that she was
595
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,680
very articulate
and seemed to handle herself well.
596
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:55,520
I could not go through a whole
tour letting my darling
597
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,040
husband of a year and a day,
do all the public speaking.
598
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,800
So we agreed for once...
599
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:08,400
that I should have
the last word tonight.
600
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,520
I think Andrew was
very proud of her.
601
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,920
I mean, she complemented
him if you like.
602
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,880
In a way, she rubbed off
some of his rougher edges.
603
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,280
I mean, he was still
a slightly abrasive character.
604
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,280
She was good for him, yeah.
605
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,080
One of the Royal couple's
stops was Hollywood.
606
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,520
I was on the Royal tour
when they were in Los Angeles,
607
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,680
and they were a huge success.
Everybody loved them.
608
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,720
At last I have the turn to talk.
609
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,880
All these men around here...
610
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,080
MEMBER OF AUDIENCE: We love you!
611
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,160
I'll see you later.
612
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,480
Fergie appeared in different
little outfits in her different
613
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,800
bows in her hair,
and it was all quite over the top.
614
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,960
I'm so amazed by Los Angeles and the
welcome that you have given us.
615
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000
And me.
616
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,360
But, I never forget
that the only reason I'm here
617
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,520
is because I'm married
to the Duke of York.
618
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,360
There was a big reception
and all the sort of LA crowd,
619
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,360
and Fergie and Andrew
really did well there.
620
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:24,840
In 1990, the couple
had welcomed two children.
621
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,240
Beatrice and Eugenie.
622
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,120
But cracks were beginning to form
in their marriage.
623
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,600
Fergie was finding life
at the Palace extremely difficult.
624
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,680
She was being criticised hugely
at this stage of her life.
625
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,600
She didn't have Prince Andrew
at her side, because he was away
626
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,240
doing his naval duties, so things
just really started to break down.
627
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Captain.
628
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,840
Good evening, sir. A three-zero
range of six miles. I am...
629
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,480
As well as the Royal tours,
Prince Andrew was still serving
630
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,600
as a naval officer, spending more
and more time away from his family.
631
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,480
Captain, roger, yes,
thank you very much.
632
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,280
As a Commanding Officer, you can
on occasions get extremely lonely
633
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,720
and isolated if you're not careful.
634
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,880
It's terrible, I mean, it...
635
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,840
I mean, you're going away,
and leaving what you love behind.
636
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,080
It's a fantastic job,
637
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,880
all three services are
a fantastic job for a single man.
638
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,240
It's getting less and less so
for a married man.
639
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,000
I don't call it escapism at all.
640
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,560
James Bond is escapism,
and I'm not a commander yet.
641
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Sarah was basically
a single mother at home with...
642
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,720
Raising two children, and it put
a huge strain on the relationship.
643
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,160
The couple's marriage
was under intense media scrutiny.
644
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,240
Rumours of affairs
began to circulate in the press.
645
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,960
Fergie was seeing
a man called Steve Wyatt,
646
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,840
and it seemed so soon
after the marriage.
647
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,480
And yet there was already talk
648
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,720
that the marriage
was in great difficulty.
649
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,560
She felt neglected
by her own husband.
650
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,640
She was being given
a really hard time by the press.
651
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,480
I think she was
incredibly vulnerable.
652
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,760
Speculation continued for months,
653
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,480
until the Duke and Duchess of York
were forced to make an announcement.
654
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:33,440
When Andrew and Sarah announced
their separation in early 1992,
655
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,680
very rapidly she was seen to be
involved with a man who was
656
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:40,480
euphemistically described
as her financial advisor.
657
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,440
A Royal separation was only
the start of the controversy
658
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,520
for the Duke and Duchess of York.
659
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,680
After now infamous photos of Sarah
Ferguson were released in the media.
660
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:56,440
I was with John Bryan the night the
pictures appeared in one of the
661
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,920
tabloids newspapers, and I'd gone
to his flat with the Daily Mirror.
662
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:03,400
And he phoned Fergie, and
I could hear him talking to her,
663
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,400
and, you know, he's saying, "It's
bad, it's worse than we thought."
664
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,000
They'd managed to get
pictures of her on a sunbed,
665
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,200
and she was having her toes sucked
by her financial advisor.
666
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,400
These pictures were compromising,
they were embarrassing,
667
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,360
you know, shameful for Fergie.
668
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,800
Things quickly went from bad
to worse for the Duchess of York.
669
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,920
Poor Fergie, the following day
she had to go down to
670
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,720
breakfast at Balmoral Castle
where all the papers were all
671
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,240
laid out as they always are
every day on a sideboard.
672
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,960
And she had to sit there,
673
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,360
and sort of the humiliation
must have been awful for her.
674
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,040
She fled Balmoral in tears, and she
didn't return for a very long time.
675
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Sarah Ferguson was really cast
to the outer darkness.
676
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,360
It was the final nail in the coffin
for Andrew and Sarah.
677
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,600
The Duke and Duchess of York's
relationship troubles
678
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,720
were publicised the world over.
679
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,080
Combined with other Royal scandals,
680
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,680
1992 would prove to be a year
that would haunt the Queen.
681
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,600
It has turned out to be
an annus horribilis.
682
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,920
I suspect that I'm not alone
in thinking it so.
683
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,600
The 1990s
was a series of disasters,
684
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,760
1992 being the worst year
in terms of Royal break-ups,
685
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:40,200
three Royal marriages, three of the
Queen's children separated in 1992.
686
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:44,440
Princess Anne divorced,
Andrew and Fergie separated,
687
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,160
Charles and Diana separated.
688
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,120
Not only were her children's
marriages deteriorating,
689
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,040
but they were being
played out in the press
690
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,680
in the most lavish,
spectacular fashion.
691
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,360
It culminated in that
famous speech that she gave,
692
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,280
in which she described 1992
as her annus horribilis,
693
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,560
a horrible year,
her worst year, if you like.
694
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,720
Four years later, Sarah Ferguson
and Prince Andrew finally divorced.
695
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Although no longer
considered a Royal,
696
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,120
she was allowed to retain
her title as the Duchess of York.
697
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,880
Many thought their separation
would bring an end
698
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,280
to the media frenzy
circulating the House of York.
699
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,280
You know, Diana took millions
from her divorce with Charles.
700
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,520
Fergie took pretty much nothing.
701
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,400
So Fergie is constantly chasing
her tail and running out of money.
702
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,080
And so she goes to more and more
desperate means.
703
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,080
She became a bit of a liability
to Prince Andrew,
704
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,320
and therefore I think he realised,
705
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,600
and certainly the Royal Family
would have realised
706
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,240
that you know, whilst
she still had these debts,
707
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,840
she was a massive liability.
708
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,760
Despite her divorce from
Prince Andrew, in the late 1990s,
709
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,400
Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York,
embarked on an unofficial
710
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,320
tour of the United States.
711
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,680
She got involved with
Weightwatchers, she seemed to be
712
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:15,320
basically doing anything she could
to earn a living, make some money.
713
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,160
She had huge debts,
she would spill her thoughts,
714
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,040
her emotions in front of
anybody who would listen to her.
715
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,520
She became a kind of darling
on the Oprah Winfrey
716
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,320
kind of circuit in America.
717
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,800
And it, this was
exactly what a Royal,
718
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,360
even a sort of ex-Royal
should not be doing,
719
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,320
and she really did cause
embarrassment to the Royal Family.
720
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Prince Andrew also found himself
back in the headlines after
721
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,280
he sold the marital home,
Sunninghill Park in Surrey.
722
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,160
The 12 bedroom
country residence had been
723
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,240
a gift from Her Majesty, the Queen.
724
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,240
He wanted to get it off his hands,
and it was on the market
725
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,720
and wasn't selling.
726
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,960
And then lo and behold, it was
bought by one of the contacts
727
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,160
he'd made through his travels.
728
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,120
The son-in-law of the
then president of Kazakhstan.
729
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,760
And this generous individual
not only bought the house,
730
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,800
but he bought it for £3 million
more than the asking price.
731
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,480
It provoked
many questions as to why.
732
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,640
The answer has never
satisfactorily been given.
733
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,240
At the time, a spokesman for
Prince Andrew said there was never
734
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,520
any arrangement or impropriety,
735
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,400
and that £12 million was
a guide price, not an asking price.
736
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,640
In 2010, rumours of bankruptcy
for Sarah Ferguson
737
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,400
began circulating in the press.
738
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,400
And the Duchess of York
became part of a huge
739
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,160
sting from the News Of The World,
740
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,880
as seen here
in a secret video recording.
741
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,960
The fake sheikh for The News Of The
World got lots of exclusives.
742
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,240
Filming people agreeing to
stuff or taking money,
743
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,600
and the cash for access story
with Fergie was incredibly damaging.
744
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,560
It was another black mark
against her.
745
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,400
In the video, she is seen
talking to the now discredited fake
746
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,960
sheikh offering access to Prince
Andrew for half a million pounds.
747
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,960
No-one was surprised
748
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:27,000
when she found herself a victim of
a pretty unpleasant newspaper sting.
749
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,520
And they got her on film
boasting that she could get access
750
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,720
to Prince Andrew in exchange
for half a million pounds.
751
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,040
It was hugely embarrassing
once again for the Royals.
752
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,240
The Duchess of York has said
she was devastated by the News
753
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,960
of the World's sting, and that it
was a serious lapse in judgment.
754
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,520
She also later added
that she felt tricked.
755
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,080
Sarah Ferguson's reported
financial difficulties
756
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,760
would see a return
of Jeffrey Epstein.
757
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,560
In 2011, the Duchess
of York admitted
758
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,240
to accepting £15,000 from Epstein
to help pay off her debts.
759
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,960
One of the other complications
to the story of Epstein
760
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,080
and Andrew, is the fact that
the Duchess of York herself was
761
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:25,120
acquainted with Epstein,
and indeed he lent her money for
762
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:31,760
the infamous debts that she had
after her divorce to Andrew.
763
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Epstein was among a number of rich
men who helped to bail her out.
764
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,640
A bad choice,
and I think the Duchess has
765
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,720
since recognised that she should not
have accepted money from him.
766
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,920
Sarah Ferguson later said she had
made a gigantic error of judgment.
767
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,840
It all just is very, very,
very unfortunate, and it's again
768
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,040
this kind of lingering bad taste
that Epstein has brought to
769
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,560
the Royal Family's reputation
in regard to both Andrew and Sarah.
770
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,080
Despite all the controversy,
over the years Prince Andrew
771
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,960
and the Duchess of York
remained close.
772
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,840
What I find remarkable is that,
despite all of the scandal,
773
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,960
you know, the debt,
the controversies,
774
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Andrew and Sarah have remained
the best of friends.
775
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,160
With the whole Epstein affair,
Fergie has absolutely kind of stood
776
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,560
by her man, I think she's the
one who's been in scrapes before,
777
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,200
and Andrew's always stood by her,
he's never thrown her to the wolves.
778
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:34,440
He's always looked after her
financially, emotionally.
779
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,400
And I think this time she felt able
to repay a lot of that debt.
780
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,240
With the Epstein scandal showing
no signs of disappearing,
781
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,160
and Prince Charles
set to one day take the throne,
782
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,200
what does the future hold
for the Duke of York and his family?
783
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,240
Over the years,
784
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,360
the House of York has been
embroiled in damaging scandals.
785
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,880
None more so than the association
786
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,920
with disgraced financier
Jeffrey Epstein.
787
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,760
I think that Andrew's judgment
is probably clouded
788
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,880
partly by the life
he's led, his upbringing.
789
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,000
He's been protected from the world.
790
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,840
And Royal insiders say
that the whole affair has impacted
791
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,760
Andrew's relationship
with his older brother, Charles,
792
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,960
who as future king
will have ultimate say
793
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,200
over the future of the British
monarchy and Andrew's role.
794
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,160
My understanding from a source
very close to the Prince of Wales
795
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,080
is that when he saw
those pictures of Epstein
796
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,120
and his brother photographed
walking in Central Park,
797
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,800
his advice to his brother was to
leave that relationship well alone.
798
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,000
It was a relationship that I think
had worried Charles from quite
799
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,480
an early stage,
but that picture was,
800
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,600
was really the nail
in the coffin for Charles.
801
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,440
It was when he said to his brother,
"Stay away from this."
802
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,520
But of course, that advice
came a little too late.
803
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,800
Could the scandals
of Prince Andrew lead to
804
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,400
the marginalisation
of the House of York?
805
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,200
There is a battle going on right
now behind the railings of Royal
806
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,200
palaces about the future
size of the British monarchy,
807
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:30,200
about slimming it down,
about getting rid of the minor
808
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:32,560
royals from the public funding
and so on.
809
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,320
There was a glimpse
of the new potential
810
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,480
slimmed-down monarchy at
the Queen's Diamond Jubilee in 2012.
811
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,840
The Duke of York and his two
daughters, princesses Beatrice
812
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,680
and Eugenie, were noticeably absent,
further fuelling speculation
813
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:56,720
that Prince Charles was beginning
to sideline the House of York.
814
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,400
Andrew and his family
not being invited
815
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,920
to appear on the balcony
at Buckingham Palace for the Queen's
816
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,440
jubilee was really significant,
because it was a real statement
817
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,680
of intent by Prince Charles. This
was the future of the Royal Family.
818
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:18,520
William, Harry, Kate, Charles,
Camilla, the Queen.
819
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,440
Andrew and Eugenie and Beatrice
were nowhere to be seen.
820
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,520
And Andrew very much felt the snub,
821
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,560
but Charles was proclaiming
it very publicly by saying
822
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,200
this is the current monarch,
this is the future monarch
823
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,960
and this is the future of the royal
family in a very, very public way.
824
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,680
And it was like, no Andrew.
825
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,280
It's the magnificent seven
as they then were.
826
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,480
That's Charles's vision
of a modern monarchy.
827
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,320
It's not a balcony
stuffed full of 20 or 30 people.
828
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,120
Andrew's not stupid.
He's noticed that,
829
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,720
and he is absolutely campaigning
for a future role,
830
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,680
a bigger role
for Eugenie and Beatrice.
831
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:59,320
We'd like to declare
the Teenage Cancer Ward open.
832
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,880
Now, this has provoked
an enormous conflict,
833
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,480
largely between Prince Andrew
and his brother, Prince Charles.
834
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,600
It's Charles who is driving this
idea of a slimmed-down monarchy,
835
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,520
and it has been from Charles's side
of the argument that
836
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:20,280
Beatrice and Eugenie should perhaps
be pushed out of the limelight.
837
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,160
As well as criticism levelled
at the Duke and Duchess of York,
838
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,920
their daughters,
Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie,
839
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,840
have also over the years
been criticised by the press.
840
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,520
In particular,
their cost to the taxpayer.
841
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,440
As Royal princesses,
842
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,680
they'd had full-time,
wraparound Royal protection.
843
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:47,320
Royal protection,
844
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,120
armed police officers,
is a very expensive business.
845
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,240
It's a necessity for front-line
members of the Royal Family,
846
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,120
but where the public began
to question the costs involved
847
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,600
in security were particularly
about Beatrice and Eugenie.
848
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,120
The public kicked up and said,
you know, this is ridiculous,
849
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,160
Beatrice is travelling all
over the world on exotic holidays.
850
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,600
Why should we pay police protection?
Which is quite right.
851
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,960
It's like, well,
why are we paying for this
852
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,840
when she's not going to be
a future working Royal?
853
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,040
And so Andrew,
under a lot of public scrutiny,
854
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,120
was forced to pay for it himself.
855
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,080
He was not very happy.
856
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,120
The money was stopped in 2011
857
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,920
to pay for all these protection
officers for both girls,
858
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,800
and then they lost
the sovereign grant,
859
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,760
which meant they would not get money
paid out of the sovereign's purse
860
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,440
because they weren't
going to do Royal duties.
861
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,880
It was decided that the working
862
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,200
members of the Royal Family would
be limited to the four children
863
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:01,120
of the Queen, and then Charles's
children, the heir's children.
864
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,800
Because it was decided
that we didn't want to have
865
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,400
too big a drain
on the sovereign grant.
866
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:12,480
But Andrew wanted both his daughters
to be working royals.
867
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,600
I think he wanted a status for them.
868
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,120
You look at the Princess Royal,
she's got two children,
869
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,600
Peter Phillips and Zara Tindall.
870
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,280
Both of them, without titles,
have made their way in life,
871
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,400
quite admirably,
without any hand-outs from anybody,
872
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,960
without any titles,
and it's worked for them.
873
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,600
And if it's worked for them,
874
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,920
then it should work
for Beatrice and Eugenie.
875
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,440
In 2018, Princess Eugenie
married her long-term boyfriend,
876
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,240
Jack Brooksbank, amid all the pomp
and ceremony of a Royal wedding,
877
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,760
the scale of which, many believed,
was Prince Andrew's way
878
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,360
of putting his family
back into the Royal limelight.
879
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,040
There was criticism
over Eugenie's wedding.
880
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,240
It was paid for privately,
and yet, you know, there was still
881
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,960
questions asked over whether
it was absolutely necessary
882
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,880
to have two wedding dresses,
three days of parties.
883
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,000
And I think for the Yorks,
it's hard for them
884
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,160
to escape that sort of controversy
because they have been
885
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,360
known for their exuberant spending
over the years.
886
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,000
Prince Andrew becomes
very grand and Royal,
887
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,680
and he makes things happen.
888
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:28,600
You want to get married
in St George's chapel?
889
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,560
You'll get married
in St George's chapel.
890
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,320
You want the biggest party the world
has ever seen in my back garden?
891
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,680
You'll have it.
892
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,040
Andrew was at pains to point out
that this was a bigger
893
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,040
wedding than Harry and Meghan's,
894
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,240
and that they'd invited more people
to fill St George's chapel.
895
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,360
Because, of course,
that was the same place
896
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,320
that Harry and Meghan had got
married a couple of months earlier.
897
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,560
Because Jack and Eugenie
had so many friends.
898
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,000
So more people had to come.
899
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,040
Eugenie had three days of parties.
900
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,840
It was almost Andrew saying,
901
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,000
"Yeah, Meghan and Harry, whatever
you can do, I can do better."
902
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,200
And with Beatrice's
recent engagement to Italian
903
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:14,680
property tycoon Edoardo Mapelli
Mozzi, speculation regarding
904
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:18,360
the scale of her nuptials
has already started in earnest.
905
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,640
And it was rumoured in the press
that Prince Andrew
906
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,560
was keen for his daughter's husbands
to have Royal titles.
907
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,840
Something the Duke of York denied.
908
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,800
It's very interesting the way that
Princess Eugenie's still styled.
909
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,560
Because her husband
hasn't got a title, officially
910
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,280
she should now be Mrs Jack
Brooksbank, and the court's circular
911
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,960
and in correspondence because that's
her very archaic official title.
912
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,280
But it's very interesting that she's
styled Princess Eugenie comma,
913
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,600
Mrs Jack Brooksbank.
914
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,480
So, I think that was very much
a sign from Prince Andrew that
915
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:04,040
his daughter should be remembered,
that she's still a princess.
916
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,400
Despite Prince Andrew's best efforts
to keep the House of York front
917
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:12,120
and centre, what will the Epstein
scandal mean for the Duke of York?
918
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,800
In the summer of 2019,
919
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,360
fresh revelations
on the Epstein scandal emerged,
920
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,200
once again threatening
to engulf the Duke of York.
921
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,960
Will you recover from this, Sir?
922
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040
He's never been far away
from controversy,
923
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,200
but his connection with Epstein,
that ill-fated friendship,
924
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,000
the Epstein connection
has inflicted the greatest
925
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,800
damage on his reputation
as a member of the Royal Family.
926
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,080
In July, federal prosecutors
filed new charges,
927
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,840
and once again
arrested Jeffrey Epstein.
928
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,720
Prince Andrew's continued friendship
with Epstein was once more
929
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,520
called into question.
930
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,080
Previously unseen footage
of Prince Andrew
931
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,080
in Epstein's Manhattan
town house appeared in the media.
932
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,280
Although it had sort of slept
dormant for four or five years,
933
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,360
it, it burst on the scene again,
934
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:27,400
and they showed a video of Andrew
935
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,080
at Epstein's townhouse in Manhattan.
936
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,320
You know, where there was lots of
comings and goings with young women.
937
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:39,000
So the world is saying, how could
he not have known what was going on?
938
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,520
This has been a very turbulent
summer for the Royal Family.
939
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,440
Buckingham Palace has
gone into firefighting mode,
940
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,320
they're defending the Duke of York
941
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,520
against the most serious allegations
to plague him in his Royal career.
942
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,760
There are questions
that many believe the Duke hasn't
943
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,840
completely answered.
944
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,800
Epstein's suicide
whilst in custody
945
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,480
meant he never stood trial
for the new allegations.
946
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,520
Epstein killed himself
shortly before going on trial again,
947
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,320
and so his accusers
feel that they have been
948
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,840
cheated of their day in court.
949
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,000
Footage captured on the steps
of a New York courthouse
950
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,640
showed Virginia Roberts,
now Giuffre,
951
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,400
renewing her accusations
against the Duke of York.
952
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,880
He knows exactly what he's done,
and I hope he comes clean about it.
953
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,160
Thank you.
954
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,360
There's also of course
the wider allegation
955
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,360
of what he knew
about what Epstein was doing.
956
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,720
Did he really see nothing,
957
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,000
as of course he has strenuously
insisted is the case?
958
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,200
Now that Epstein is dead,
959
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,360
and he's not going to have his day
in court, it's hard to see how
960
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,280
Andrew can properly and conclusively
shut these allegations down.
961
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,240
The case against Epstein
was dropped after his suicide,
962
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,720
but there have been calls to
investigate some of his associates.
963
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,960
With the Duke of York
named in court papers in 2015,
964
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,120
Virginia Roberts's lawyers have
asked for Prince Andrew
965
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,080
to come forward
and be interviewed under oath,
966
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,680
despite a judge ruling
comments about him be struck
967
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,600
record for being immaterial
and impertinent.
968
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,480
Andrew has never been spoken to by
American law enforcement agencies.
969
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,560
Buckingham Palace has been
at pains to stress that if people
970
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,320
want to talk to Andrew, they can.
971
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,240
I mean, of course, they would
say that, wouldn't they?
972
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,200
Whether that would actually happen
is a different matter.
973
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,120
If the Duke of York
were to testify, it would be the
974
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,480
first time in history that a member
of the British Royal Family
975
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,320
has appeared in a US court.
976
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,400
Andrew, clearly in his statements
repeatedly has said "I didn't
977
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,080
do anything wrong, I didn't know
anything wrong was going on."
978
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:09,280
The statement hasn't appeased the
various Epstein victims in America,
979
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,160
and in particular one has said
that Andrew knows what he has done.
980
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,800
And a lawyer is calling for Andrew
to go to the US to testify.
981
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,480
Virginia Roberts gave
a televised interview to American
982
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,680
television programme
Dateline for NBC.
983
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,760
It was a programme watched
by millions in which she further
984
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,120
detailed her alleged interactions
with Prince Andrew.
985
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,200
The first time in London
I was so young, Khelan woke me
986
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,720
up in the morning and said, "You're
going to meet a prince today."
987
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,000
I didn't know at that point that
I was going to be trafficked.
988
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,160
This is not a trial by the media.
989
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,480
it is an investigation, and it's not
up to newspapers to point fingers,
990
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,880
it's not up to newspapers
to put him on trial.
991
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:01,240
It is up to the Americans
as and when they have a case.
992
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,760
Will he be a hostile
witness to the FBI inquiry?
993
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,040
Will he be dragged into some
court case in America?
994
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,280
That seems less likely.
995
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,280
But surely someone is going
to want some answers to very many
996
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,520
questions about his connection
to Jeffrey Epstein,
997
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,600
to the girls and to all those
stories which have been buffeting
998
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,320
the Royal Family
throughout the summer months.
999
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,000
Despite his protestations
of innocence,
1000
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,400
we don't really know what happened,
and therein lies the problem.
1001
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:43,080
And I think that
this will continue to dog him,
1002
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,600
this affair,
for the rest of his life.
1003
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:50,680
The impact of the Epstein scandal on
the Royal Family is yet to be seen.
1004
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,960
The Royal Family are by their very
nature loyal to one another,
1005
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,600
and they close ranks
and support each other.
1006
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,800
But Prince Andrew is testing
that policy and that loyalty,
1007
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,760
and, you know, family ties
absolutely to the limit.
1008
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,840
The Royal Family over the centuries
have been involved in
1009
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,480
all sorts of allegations, innuendo,
scandals, and they have survived.
1010
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,600
They've survived
for over a thousand years,
1011
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,400
and they will continue to survive.
1012
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,680
Individual members of the royal
family are not involved in this,
only Prince Andrew.
1013
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,800
As Prince Andrew's future
is discussed
1014
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,280
and speculated upon
in every quarter,
1015
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:36,640
the title Duke of York is itself
facing an unknown future.
1016
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Because Prince Andrew has no male
heirs, the title is due to end.
1017
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,600
But Andrew has only two daughters,
1018
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,360
and as things stand at the moment,
as I understand it,
1019
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,600
the title will go into abeyance,
or die with him, if you like.
1020
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,560
And then it will be up to
another monarch,
1021
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,680
Prince William, who has two sons
and he could give his son Louis
1022
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,440
the title Duke of York
when he comes to the throne.
1023
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,880
Currently eighth in line to the
throne, questions remain
1024
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,320
over Prince Andrew's future
and that of the Royal House of York.
1025
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,000
His diary is having to be cleared
1026
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,000
because of the continued
speculation, and it's really
1027
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,640
unsure and uncertain quite what's
going to happen next in terms of
1028
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,560
how Andrew's going to rebuild what
is now a very tarnished reputation.
1029
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,640
He's never going to
get rid of the stigma,
1030
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,920
but it doesn't mean
he can't live with it.
1031
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,080
It doesn't mean he can't go on,
but it will always be there now.
1032
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:47,120
There is talk that he might
withdraw completely from Royal life.
1033
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,840
But he can't disappear completely.
He's a member of the Royal Family.
1034
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,240
He cannot resign
from the Royal Family.
1035
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,440
He is still Prince Charles's brother
and the Queen's favourite son.
1036
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,440
This very damaging for
the reputation of the Duke of York.
1037
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:07,440
He would say at worst
he's been too loyal to a friend,
1038
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,440
and he shouldn't have continued
the friendship with Epstein.
1039
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,200
But you know, when you have
people on the steps of a court
1040
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,760
in New York saying
"He knows what he has done,"
1041
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,360
I don't think anybody thinks
this is the end of the story.
1042
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,640
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