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- ♪ We've got each other,
and that's a fact ♪
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- What's up?
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- ♪ We'll stick together
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♪ We've made a pact
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- Ten weeks ago,
the experts matched
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five couples to be
married at first sight.
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One bride decided not to go
through with the marriage.
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- Another couple cut
their journey short...
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- I want to follow through
with wanting a divorce.
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- And asked for a divorce.
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- May I?
- Yes.
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- But Michael's journey
continued on
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with a new bride
and a second chance at love.
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♪
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But for the remaining couples
who married two months ago,
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the fateful day
is finally here,
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to remain married
or choose a divorce.
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[intense music]
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Today's decision will
forever change
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the course of their lives,
for better or for worse.
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- She just, like,
doesn't trust me
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on camera
or off camera anymore.
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- I really need to, like,
take time for myself.
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- I'm gonna say it plainly.
I [bleep] up the process.
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- There have just been times
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where you have tried
to silence me.
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- I was trying to protect you.
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I did everything.
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- That's just not true.
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- To show you that I care,
I wanted to be there.
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- I was extremely appreciative
of what I would call love.
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- He also threatened me
the other day
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and said he had enough
to ruin my life
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on TV after this all came out.
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- You told me you wanted
to go to war with me.
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So I was just--
- I did not say that.
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- OK.
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- I do care for her.
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- I don't feel centered...
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[choking up]
To be able to, like, tell.
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♪
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- The time has come
for you to decide.
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- Do you want to stay married?
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- Or do you want
to get a divorce?
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♪
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[upbeat music]
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- ♪ It's all or nothing
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- This is
"Married at First Sight."
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- ♪ There's no other way
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♪
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♪ It's all or nothing
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[dramatic music]
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♪
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- It is the morning
of Decision Day.
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And I'm feeling a little
anxious, a little nervous.
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- Today is Decision Day.
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- I haven't really gotten,
like, a whole lot of sleep.
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It's been hard.
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- Since this experience
has been
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such a roller coaster
for most of our couples,
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hopefully a night alone
has given each individual
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an opportunity to reflect
and help them
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with the clarity they need
for their big decision,
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because today our couples
will have to decide
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whether they want
to continue a life married
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or get a divorce.
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- ♪ Everybody has a dream
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♪ Something they want
to have ♪
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♪ Some would
give up everything ♪
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♪ 'Cause they want it
that bad ♪
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- I'm about to get dressed.
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Austin and I had a pretty
emotional conversation.
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And then he left
the apartment.
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And then I haven't really
spoken to him since.
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[somber pop music]
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I have never felt so much
guilt and disappointment
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and confusion and sadness
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about thinking what this is
gonna look like for me.
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- This decision has been
flip-flopping a lot.
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And I think Becca has, too.
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But this time apart
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I think has been needed
for both of us.
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I think, like,
it helped me to, like,
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just kind of get back
to base level of thinking.
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And, like, I think there's
always room to course-correct.
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- ♪ Go back
to when it was easy ♪
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- With any marriage, you know,
there are ups and downs.
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You know, we had a lot of ups.
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And it's unfortunate that,
like, a lot of our issues
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kind of came
right before Decision Day.
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I don't really know
where things will end up.
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- I feel like I have fought
for this marriage.
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But I think
where it stands right now,
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I don't know how to fight
for the marriage anymore.
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Like, I don't know
how to separate the reality
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of Austin's intentions, and
if he genuinely cares about me
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as much as I love and care
about him.
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- There is definitely a part
of me that wants to say yes.
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But I don't know
if that's what she wants.
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- ♪ To when it was easy
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♪
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- ♪ Let's go chasing stars
this evening ♪
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♪ Eyes wide shut,
in fast cars dreaming ♪
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♪
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♪ Thought this could
be paradise ♪
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- Well, it's Decision Day.
- I know.
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- And your first Decision Day.
- It is.
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I am excited for this.
- We're excited, too.
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It's good to have you.
- It's good to be here.
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- Yeah.
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I mean, it's been
a rocky season.
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- Yeah.
- We have seen--
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I think we've seen things
this season
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that we've never
in my time here--
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and I'm sure
you could say the same.
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- Oh, absolutely.
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It's unprecedented.
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A lot to talk about.
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Let's start.
- Yeah.
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Becca and Austin.
- Yeah, I mean,
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they started out
as our golden couple.
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- They really did.
- They were both
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attracted to each other.
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And it seemed like it was
gonna be seamless
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for a while, no?
- Yeah.
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- Yeah.
- I mean, yeah, look,
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they've had some ups and downs,
some miscommunication.
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I believe that they have
so much more in common
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than they don't have,
you know, in common.
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- And I think that, you know--
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love Austin to death.
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And I think that
there's some, like,
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maybe lack of emotional
awareness that he has,
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that maybe she does, right,
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that she's really in tune
with her emotions.
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- Yeah.
- And I think that he has
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a difficult time expressing
himself to her or his needs.
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And then that's coming off
to her as like,
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oh, well, he's not being
authentic or he doesn't care.
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So I think we need to be
an interpreter for them.
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You know,
there's chemistry there.
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- There is.
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- You can't just
make that up, right?
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Like, I think this
is beyond them...
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- I wish we could.
- Just trying to--oh, OK.
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Wait.
[laughs]
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But, you know, I think this is
beyond them just trying to,
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like, make it to Decision Day.
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I think that they truly have
feelings for one another.
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I think they have
a lot of shared interests.
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- Absolutely
- Right?
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I think that there's
a great level
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of respect that they have
for one another.
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- I believe that, too.
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I believe there's
something valuable there.
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- Yeah.
- Well, let's go see
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if they'll fight
for the marriage.
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- Yes.
- Yeah, I hope so.
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[soft music]
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♪
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- The first time I saw Austin,
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I felt a deep sense of relief
and excitement, all at once.
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- ♪ Give it all that I have
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[crowd cheers]
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♪ No holding me back
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- She's a nerd.
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- He said the word.
- And I'm weird.
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So it works. [laughs]
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♪
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- Austin's smile is enough
to not only light up the room,
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but the whole dang house.
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- Pick flowers on the beach.
- [laughs]
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- I love liking you.
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- ♪ 'Cause I'm a believer
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- I appreciate that
Austin lives in the moment
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because it has helped
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the struggles in our marriage
become less intimidating.
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Like, I just want you
to want me.
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And that hasn't
really happened yet.
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[moody pop music]
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- ♪ Love me strong
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- It has been difficult
to feel connected to Austin
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due to our different paces
in intimacy.
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It doesn't feel good to, like,
have to beg to be wanted.
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- ♪ Learn to play along
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♪ It's more than
I can take from you ♪
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- I just start questioning
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if what I'm asking for
is too much.
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I feel like my authentic self
with Austin.
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But this process
has caused anxiety
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around how and what
I communicate to him.
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[choked up] It often feels like
when the cameras go away,
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like, he's not asking,
like, for that depth
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or that intimacy or, like,
that connection in the same way
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as, like, to--
when we're on camera.
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♪
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And I am starting
to feel worried
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that Austin was more concerned
about how we were coming across
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on camera versus
how we were actually doing.
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♪
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- ♪ Lessons in love
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[upbeat music]
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♪
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- The first time I saw Becca,
you know,
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I was just, like,
overcome with emotion.
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- ♪ Ooh-wee,
I'm fooling myself ♪
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[crowd cheering]
- What's up?
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- I'm usually the crier.
- I know.
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- This is nice.
- I, like, never cry.
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Not only was she beautiful,
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with her big, blue eyes
and pink hair...
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- We're going in.
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- But the energy she carried
lit up the room.
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- ♪ I'm on top
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♪ I'm on top of the world
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♪
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- Get in here.
- [chuckles]
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- She was a ball of sunshine,
and it floored me.
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I will always show up for you
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and do my best
to be there for you.
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Aw.
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Our initial chemistry was
so easy and natural.
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Yes.
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♪
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- ♪ I'm on top of the world
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- But Becca struggles
with my religious beliefs,
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my slower intimacy speed,
and my directness.
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And this is beginning
to affect
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all aspects of our marriage.
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- What's frustrating
is that, like,
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all of these fights
and all of these things
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are, like,
days and nights of rejection.
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And then it, like,
leads into these moments
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where, like, I don't know
what to do anymore.
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- Becca still needs
to work on trust
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because I think
that this process
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has made her question
everything I do.
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I'm feeling more
and more disconnected.
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And I really care for Becca,
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but I'm unsure if we can
overcome those hurdles.
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I still need time to, like,
work through certain things
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that could, like,
really tear us apart.
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- It's really hard.
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[dramatic music]
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♪
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- Good to see you guys again.
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- It's good to see you again,
absolutely.
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- Austin.
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- Hey.
- What's up?
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- Hey, bud.
How you doing, man?
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Great to see you.
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- You, too.
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♪
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I'm actually gonna
take this off.
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- Here she is.
- Hello.
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♪
257
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Hi.
- How you doing?
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- Good.
How are you?
259
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- Good.
260
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Love the dress.
261
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- Thanks.
- Looks great.
262
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- You look cute, too.
- Thank you.
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♪
264
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- [sighs]
265
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- You know, we saw you last, it
was a very emotional evening.
266
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And we've been worried
about you
267
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and hoping that things have
gotten progressively better.
268
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But I gather there's been
a lot of drama
269
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in the last couple days.
270
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So want to fill us in
a little bit?
271
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- Yeah, a lot's happened
in the past week--
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unresolved things
and things that will,
273
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like, take time to resolve.
274
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I think it just kind of
got away from us.
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I think, like, we--
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like, ultimately, like,
our communication
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and conflict resolution just,
like, broke down.
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And we weren't able to,
279
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like, manage our issues in,
like, a healthy way.
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And, like, it made us
question the relationship,
281
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like, the future
of our relationship.
282
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And, like--like, I mean,
we just don't know
283
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if it is, like, possible
to manage those things.
284
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- So for me, I think
I wasn't really being authentic
285
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with how I would feel at times.
286
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Sometimes, by the request
of Austin just asking that
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things don't be brought up,
it impacted me a lot
288
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because it felt like I was
living two different lives.
289
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- Yeah.
290
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- And I finally spoke up
about it.
291
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It was pretty much
after our meeting
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with Dr. Pepper and Pastor Cal,
293
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where I finally started
to open up about things
294
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that I hadn't talked about
on camera yet.
295
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But after that conversation,
Austin was worried
296
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what I said was going to paint
him in a very bad light.
297
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He was worried about the optics
from that conversation
298
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versus how I was feeling,
299
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that, like, I actually felt...
300
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silenced or,
like, misunderstood.
301
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Um...
302
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it made me start to see
our relationship differently,
303
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like, just made me question
what was sincere
304
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and what wasn't and what is
really him and what isn't.
305
00:12:46,208 --> 00:12:49,125
- I think it's natural
to worry about those things
306
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when you're, like,
being filmed.
307
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But for me, they're not, like,
308
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the only thing
I'm worried about.
309
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And I'm trying to express that
to her that, like, this--
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that I do care for her
more than that.
311
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I think she doesn't trust--
312
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she just, like,
doesn't trust me
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on camera
or off camera anymore.
314
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- Like, I can't and don't trust
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that in this moment
it's not about optics,
316
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that it hasn't been
about optics
317
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because we haven't really
had a lot of those
318
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private, connective,
deepening moments for me.
319
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[dramatic music]
320
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- When the optics are done...
- Yeah.
321
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- That's when you can
find those moments.
322
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- I--and maybe this means
that, like,
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I wasn't ready for this
process, but, like,
324
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I don't feel centered
325
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to be able to, like, tell--
326
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to even start to decipher that.
327
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Like, I feel like I need
to reground myself, regroup,
328
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like, re-trust my intuition
329
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because everything just
feels shot at this point.
330
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- Well, and I wonder about that
331
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because I feel like every time
I saw you, I was like,
332
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you all look so great together;
you seem so connected;
333
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you're very affectionate
with one another.
334
00:14:12,833 --> 00:14:15,333
And do you feel like
that was a lie?
335
00:14:15,375 --> 00:14:17,625
- I think--
336
00:14:17,708 --> 00:14:22,292
I think on camera, Austin is
a lot more affectionate
337
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and complimentary
and gentle with me.
338
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And I don't think
it's something
339
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that he does on purpose.
340
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I don't think it's, like,
the cameras leave
341
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and a light switch goes off
and he's like,
342
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great, I'm off work for today.
343
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I think it's that he has
to be more aware of himself
344
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when the cameras are around,
or he feels that way.
345
00:14:41,625 --> 00:14:45,667
- I think, like, her framework
on this whole situation
346
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has been skewed,
even like, you know,
347
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the things that you have,
like, given--
348
00:14:50,792 --> 00:14:52,542
like, the activities
you have told us to do.
349
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She doesn't trust
that it's coming
350
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from, like, a genuine spot.
351
00:14:55,125 --> 00:14:57,000
And I've said many,
many times, like,
352
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I don't do things
that I don't want to.
353
00:14:59,958 --> 00:15:02,417
- I don't know.
It's just--it's hard
354
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to separate what is real
and what isn't.
355
00:15:04,333 --> 00:15:06,208
And again,
when the conversation of optics
356
00:15:06,292 --> 00:15:09,417
got brought up, it only, like--
357
00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:10,917
- Amplified?
- Yeah.
358
00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,125
- You know, we're having
this conversation
359
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about, like, authenticity.
360
00:15:14,083 --> 00:15:15,333
And I can't help
but notice this--
361
00:15:15,458 --> 00:15:17,042
like, how close y'all are
sitting to each other.
362
00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:18,083
And, you know,
Austin's had his arm
363
00:15:18,167 --> 00:15:19,125
around you the entire time.
364
00:15:19,208 --> 00:15:20,583
He's rubbing your back, right?
365
00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:24,167
Like, do you feel that
this is genuine in this moment?
366
00:15:24,250 --> 00:15:28,000
- I definitely really,
really want it to be
367
00:15:28,125 --> 00:15:30,125
because I have felt that.
368
00:15:30,208 --> 00:15:35,042
And that's where my mind
just starts to ruminate
369
00:15:35,125 --> 00:15:37,167
and replay incidences
in my head.
370
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And it's not a healthy place
for me to go to,
371
00:15:40,375 --> 00:15:44,542
which is why I really need to,
like, take time for myself.
372
00:15:44,625 --> 00:15:45,958
I want to believe that.
373
00:15:46,042 --> 00:15:49,000
And I see it
in times where we are good.
374
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I think it's, like,
seeing that in times
375
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where we also maybe
aren't good, or maybe I'm not--
376
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I don't know.
- That's hard.
377
00:15:53,875 --> 00:15:54,750
- It is hard.
- It is hard.
378
00:15:54,833 --> 00:15:55,750
- Yeah.
- It's hard for me
379
00:15:55,833 --> 00:15:57,500
to do, too, yeah.
- Well, right.
380
00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:59,542
And like we were saying before,
like, this is a really,
381
00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:03,083
like, anxiety-producing,
you know, eight-week situation,
382
00:16:03,167 --> 00:16:05,833
especially if, you know,
you have anxiety to begin with.
383
00:16:05,917 --> 00:16:07,542
And so when you're saying,
like, oh, it's--
384
00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:09,875
I'm in my head, and I'm
kind of questioning this,
385
00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,833
may I challenge you
to tell your anxiety
386
00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:12,917
to shut up right now?
- Oh, yeah.
387
00:16:13,042 --> 00:16:14,042
Yeah, no, def--I mean--
388
00:16:14,167 --> 00:16:15,292
- Yeah.
- Tell her.
389
00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:16,750
- Yeah, you know what I mean?
390
00:16:16,833 --> 00:16:18,042
- I tell her all the time
to shut up.
391
00:16:18,125 --> 00:16:19,292
- So, like,
tell her right now, right?
392
00:16:19,375 --> 00:16:21,167
And, like,
what do you have to lose
393
00:16:21,292 --> 00:16:26,167
by leaning into believing
that this is genuine right now?
394
00:16:26,250 --> 00:16:28,708
- Yeah, I think I do see it,
and I do trust it.
395
00:16:28,833 --> 00:16:31,500
And I know that it's a hard
place for Austin to be in
396
00:16:31,542 --> 00:16:34,333
because if he is acting
out of a place of,
397
00:16:34,375 --> 00:16:36,583
you know, genuine feeling
and authenticity, like,
398
00:16:36,667 --> 00:16:39,500
how hard would it be to sit
there and not be believed?
399
00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:42,792
And, like, I--I'm sorry that
that's not where I'm at.
400
00:16:42,875 --> 00:16:44,125
But I want to get there.
401
00:16:44,208 --> 00:16:45,417
And, like, that's
what I'm trying to do.
402
00:16:45,417 --> 00:16:47,083
- Yeah.
403
00:16:47,167 --> 00:16:49,583
- I think there's
a lot more answers
404
00:16:49,667 --> 00:16:52,875
that you can't know unless you
continue outside this process.
405
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000
- And, you know--
and I know there's gonna be
406
00:16:55,083 --> 00:16:58,333
a lot of trust that's--
that you're having to build.
407
00:16:58,417 --> 00:17:00,375
And the only thing
that really can build trust
408
00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:05,417
is commitment
and consistency and time
409
00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:08,042
because you've got
to show each other
410
00:17:08,125 --> 00:17:10,750
that this thing that
you believe in right now,
411
00:17:10,833 --> 00:17:13,458
that it's valuable,
and it's gonna take some time.
412
00:17:13,542 --> 00:17:16,667
But I believe firmly that
you guys have what it takes,
413
00:17:16,750 --> 00:17:18,333
you know, to make this work.
414
00:17:18,417 --> 00:17:21,125
♪
415
00:17:21,208 --> 00:17:25,958
- So the time has now come
416
00:17:26,042 --> 00:17:28,708
where we have
to make a decision.
417
00:17:28,792 --> 00:17:32,417
Do you want to stay married
418
00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:33,625
or get a divorce?
419
00:17:33,708 --> 00:17:36,500
♪
420
00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:42,208
- I want to say no to where
this marriage has been.
421
00:17:42,292 --> 00:17:46,000
But I want to say yes
to where it could be.
422
00:17:46,042 --> 00:17:48,500
- So am I hearing then
that your answer is yes?
423
00:17:48,583 --> 00:17:50,958
♪
424
00:17:51,042 --> 00:17:52,167
- Um...
425
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,125
yes.
426
00:17:57,125 --> 00:17:58,583
- Yeah?
- Yes.
427
00:17:58,583 --> 00:18:00,417
[chuckles]
- Aww.
428
00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:01,583
[upbeat music]
429
00:18:01,667 --> 00:18:03,292
- Austin?
430
00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:07,250
- I'm excited to say,
I want to stay married.
431
00:18:07,375 --> 00:18:10,375
- Well, we totally support
this effort.
432
00:18:10,458 --> 00:18:13,667
- And if I may quote my pastor,
it works if you work it.
433
00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:15,125
And so part of the working it--
434
00:18:15,208 --> 00:18:16,292
- Was that me?
- No.
435
00:18:16,375 --> 00:18:18,333
[laughter]
- Oh, OK.
436
00:18:18,375 --> 00:18:20,292
- That means,
I want y'all to be
437
00:18:20,375 --> 00:18:22,083
brutally honest
with each other.
438
00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:24,375
Be real. Like, no more
of this hiding stuff, right?
439
00:18:24,542 --> 00:18:25,667
You don't have to worry
about the optics.
440
00:18:25,792 --> 00:18:28,542
The only way you're going
to get your needs met
441
00:18:28,625 --> 00:18:31,875
is if you open your mouth
and be honest with one another.
442
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000
And be honest with yourselves.
- Mm-hmm.
443
00:18:34,083 --> 00:18:36,917
I think today's decision
represents, hopefully,
444
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,792
a much needed cleanse for us.
445
00:18:40,875 --> 00:18:42,458
- Thank you.
446
00:18:42,458 --> 00:18:45,375
- I need to be with Austin
447
00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:47,583
without the cameras
and without production
448
00:18:47,708 --> 00:18:53,083
and just rebuilding
what I hope we can have.
449
00:18:53,167 --> 00:18:54,250
- Here's to marriage.
- Thank you.
450
00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:55,167
- Cheers.
- And all that it requires.
451
00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:56,833
- Here's to yes.
452
00:18:56,917 --> 00:19:01,083
♪
453
00:19:01,083 --> 00:19:04,000
[slow pop music]
454
00:19:04,042 --> 00:19:09,833
♪
455
00:19:09,917 --> 00:19:13,625
- I cannot believe it, but
Decision Day is finally here.
456
00:19:13,708 --> 00:19:16,833
- You know, last night
I slept pretty OK.
457
00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:19,000
You know, feeling
a little nervous for today.
458
00:19:19,083 --> 00:19:20,667
Not sure how it's gonna go.
459
00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:25,667
- I am very on edge,
since I don't know
460
00:19:25,708 --> 00:19:28,958
exactly what Brennan's
gonna say or do.
461
00:19:29,083 --> 00:19:31,667
But today is not just
important for us,
462
00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:34,417
but it is really important
to me that I get out
463
00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:37,333
everything that
I haven't been able to say.
464
00:19:37,375 --> 00:19:39,500
- The only thing I'm nervous
about is if, you know,
465
00:19:39,625 --> 00:19:42,167
she comes
into the meeting with,
466
00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:44,083
you know, hostility
or any aggression.
467
00:19:44,083 --> 00:19:46,333
You know, I'm in a very good
head space,
468
00:19:46,375 --> 00:19:48,083
good spirits,
and just want to, you know,
469
00:19:48,167 --> 00:19:50,333
move on peacefully
and respectfully.
470
00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,750
Say her piece, and I say mine,
and it's just,
471
00:19:52,833 --> 00:19:56,292
you know, a reflection
and a reconciliation.
472
00:19:56,375 --> 00:19:58,917
- Very, very, very anxious.
473
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,792
Honestly, probably gonna be
one of, like, the hardest days
474
00:20:01,875 --> 00:20:04,083
maybe ever that I've had
to really go through.
475
00:20:04,167 --> 00:20:07,500
[dramatic music]
476
00:20:07,583 --> 00:20:13,500
♪
477
00:20:13,583 --> 00:20:16,250
- Well, we've got
a serious illness
478
00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:17,167
to deal with.
- Oof.
479
00:20:17,292 --> 00:20:18,208
- I mean--well, not illness,
480
00:20:18,333 --> 00:20:20,125
accident.
- A trauma, yeah.
481
00:20:20,208 --> 00:20:22,333
- Really traumatic accident.
Oh, my gosh.
482
00:20:22,417 --> 00:20:23,875
- Well, accidents like this,
you know,
483
00:20:23,958 --> 00:20:27,333
traumatic situations can
either draw you close...
484
00:20:27,375 --> 00:20:29,875
- Mm-hmm.
- Or tear you apart, you know?
485
00:20:29,958 --> 00:20:32,583
- Yeah, yeah.
- And my hope was
486
00:20:32,708 --> 00:20:35,917
that it would have gone
to make them closer.
487
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,792
- Well, there was some evidence
of that for a while.
488
00:20:37,875 --> 00:20:40,083
I remember talking
to both of them, right?
489
00:20:40,167 --> 00:20:43,000
And she was just
extolling what--
490
00:20:43,042 --> 00:20:44,042
- Oh, yeah.
- You know, the support
491
00:20:44,125 --> 00:20:45,333
he gave her and...
- Absolutely.
492
00:20:45,375 --> 00:20:46,958
- How well taken care of
she was.
493
00:20:47,042 --> 00:20:48,125
- Absolutely.
- Yeah.
494
00:20:48,208 --> 00:20:49,458
- Yeah, I mean,
I thought, whoa,
495
00:20:49,458 --> 00:20:51,500
maybe here is a turning point.
496
00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:55,708
- But somewhere along the line,
it fizzled.
497
00:20:55,875 --> 00:20:58,083
They've sort of spiraled
out of control here.
498
00:20:58,167 --> 00:21:00,000
- Yeah, it was short-lived.
499
00:21:00,042 --> 00:21:01,667
And I'm wondering
what happened.
500
00:21:01,708 --> 00:21:04,333
- Sometimes it's hard
to figure out.
501
00:21:04,375 --> 00:21:06,167
You know, as much as we try,
502
00:21:06,292 --> 00:21:08,958
we go through so many
vetting techniques,
503
00:21:09,042 --> 00:21:11,500
months, months of vetting,
504
00:21:11,583 --> 00:21:15,208
and still, you just can't
figure out sometimes
505
00:21:15,292 --> 00:21:17,250
what it is that makes someone
506
00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,458
not attracted
to the other person.
507
00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:23,250
And I think that there
was a certain type
508
00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:25,125
that he had in mind.
509
00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:27,375
And she just didn't fit
into that.
510
00:21:27,458 --> 00:21:29,542
And I don't know
if he could recover
511
00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:32,667
from not having
those expectations met.
512
00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:35,542
- They never went in deep
like some couples do.
513
00:21:35,625 --> 00:21:38,208
OK, let's just put
it all out there.
514
00:21:38,292 --> 00:21:39,375
- Right.
- Look at the ugly stuff
515
00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:40,708
and see what we can do with it.
516
00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:42,208
- Yeah.
- Nah.
517
00:21:42,292 --> 00:21:43,208
I think she would have been
willing for that.
518
00:21:43,292 --> 00:21:44,292
I don't think he was.
519
00:21:44,375 --> 00:21:46,083
- So I think that our goal here
520
00:21:46,167 --> 00:21:48,833
is to try to have
some civility,
521
00:21:48,917 --> 00:21:53,583
you know, to make sure
that they learn and grow
522
00:21:53,667 --> 00:21:56,833
from these experiences and
that they are better people,
523
00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:59,875
you know, moving into whatever
situation they move into next.
524
00:21:59,958 --> 00:22:02,000
- Yeah.
525
00:22:02,042 --> 00:22:05,500
- ♪ I will show 'em
what I'm made of ♪
526
00:22:05,542 --> 00:22:09,167
♪ I feel it, it's in my blood,
in my blood ♪
527
00:22:09,208 --> 00:22:12,167
- When I first saw Brennan,
I thought, he's attractive.
528
00:22:12,208 --> 00:22:13,417
Like, he's, like, my type.
529
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,667
- I'm your type?
530
00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,500
- Well, like, looks-wise.
- Yeah.
531
00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:18,167
- We'll see if you pass
the personality test.
532
00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:19,500
- That's fair.
533
00:22:19,583 --> 00:22:21,917
Like, I want to just build,
like, our legacy,
534
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000
build something that,
like, we're very proud of.
535
00:22:24,083 --> 00:22:27,417
- ♪ I will show 'em
what I'm made of ♪
536
00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,833
♪ I feel it, it's in my blood,
in my blood ♪
537
00:22:29,875 --> 00:22:31,292
- Dang!
538
00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:33,583
This is totally rad.
- [laughs]
539
00:22:33,667 --> 00:22:36,917
- ♪ My last stand,
to show 'em who I am ♪
540
00:22:36,917 --> 00:22:38,667
- I just need you to tell me
if you're physically attracted
541
00:22:38,750 --> 00:22:39,792
to me or not.
542
00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:41,458
- I just can't.
543
00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:44,667
- While I know Brennan says
he did protect me,
544
00:22:44,792 --> 00:22:48,125
I wish Brennan spent more time
thinking about better ways
545
00:22:48,208 --> 00:22:50,458
to improve
our progress forward.
546
00:22:50,542 --> 00:22:53,542
[dramatic pop music]
547
00:22:53,625 --> 00:22:55,083
♪
548
00:22:58,125 --> 00:23:02,583
- But Brennan was at my side
during and after
549
00:23:02,667 --> 00:23:07,208
one of the most traumatic
experiences I've had.
550
00:23:07,208 --> 00:23:08,500
- The road to recovery.
551
00:23:08,542 --> 00:23:10,625
- Stay tuned.
- Stay tuned.
552
00:23:10,708 --> 00:23:12,333
- I thought Brennan had
the potential
553
00:23:12,458 --> 00:23:13,792
to be a good partner.
554
00:23:13,875 --> 00:23:16,667
But I think
Brennan put a block up
555
00:23:16,750 --> 00:23:20,042
at the very beginning,
which allowed nothing
556
00:23:20,042 --> 00:23:22,250
to be able to move forward.
557
00:23:22,333 --> 00:23:25,500
- If that's how you feel after
I saved your [bleep] life--
558
00:23:25,583 --> 00:23:27,458
- Are you [bleep] kidding me?
559
00:23:27,542 --> 00:23:30,667
- It's unfathomable to me
that you can talk like this.
560
00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:32,500
- If you think
in any [bleep] world
561
00:23:32,583 --> 00:23:34,958
that this is gonna come on me,
you are wrong.
562
00:23:35,042 --> 00:23:39,500
♪
563
00:23:39,583 --> 00:23:43,250
- ♪ Yeah, come on, girl
564
00:23:43,375 --> 00:23:44,667
♪ Don't be afraid
565
00:23:44,708 --> 00:23:46,000
- When I first saw Emily,
566
00:23:46,042 --> 00:23:47,958
I thought
her energy was radiating,
567
00:23:48,042 --> 00:23:50,000
and I thought we'd have
a lot of fun together.
568
00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:54,333
- ♪ If I could be,
if I could be your man, oh ♪
569
00:23:54,417 --> 00:23:56,375
- Cheers.
- Ugh.
570
00:23:56,458 --> 00:23:58,708
- ♪ Perfect for me
571
00:23:58,792 --> 00:24:00,792
- Emily has a lot
of admirable qualities,
572
00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:02,917
including, you know,
being nice, being sweet,
573
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,875
caring, outgoing.
574
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,792
You're really starting
to earn my trust, you know,
575
00:24:06,875 --> 00:24:09,000
which is not easy
for me to say.
576
00:24:09,083 --> 00:24:10,792
There's never a dull moment
with Emily,
577
00:24:10,875 --> 00:24:12,500
and she always finds a way
to be the life of the party.
578
00:24:12,542 --> 00:24:13,667
[glass shatters]
Whoa!
579
00:24:13,792 --> 00:24:15,917
[people yelling]
- My bad.
580
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,500
[dramatic music]
581
00:24:17,625 --> 00:24:18,958
- One of the things
that Emily and I don't
582
00:24:19,042 --> 00:24:21,542
see eye to eye on
is our communication.
583
00:24:21,542 --> 00:24:23,542
The negativity, for me,
is, like, a huge thing.
584
00:24:23,625 --> 00:24:25,167
One--that's one of, like--
one of--
585
00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:28,667
one of my deal-breakers was
a positive, positive person.
586
00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:32,167
- What do you [bleep] mean?
There is no negativity.
587
00:24:32,167 --> 00:24:33,500
- OK.
588
00:24:33,625 --> 00:24:35,500
- [sobbing]
589
00:24:35,625 --> 00:24:38,417
- I came into this not thinking
590
00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:40,125
divorce was even
an option for me.
591
00:24:40,208 --> 00:24:44,417
But now, I'm wondering
if it's the only option for me.
592
00:24:44,542 --> 00:24:49,667
♪
593
00:24:53,583 --> 00:24:56,667
[dramatic music]
594
00:24:56,750 --> 00:25:03,583
♪
595
00:25:15,375 --> 00:25:16,958
- Hello.
- Hi, guys.
596
00:25:17,042 --> 00:25:18,167
- Good.
Come on in.
597
00:25:18,208 --> 00:25:19,500
- How are you?
598
00:25:19,667 --> 00:25:22,292
Good to see you.
- Good to see you, too.
599
00:25:22,375 --> 00:25:23,375
- Hi.
- Hi.
600
00:25:23,458 --> 00:25:24,625
- Oof.
- Ooh, I'm so sorry.
601
00:25:24,708 --> 00:25:25,667
- Don't knock her out.
- Are you OK?
602
00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:26,875
- [laughing] Yeah, I'm fine.
- Sorry.
603
00:25:26,875 --> 00:25:28,667
- That's OK.
- What's up, buddy?
604
00:25:28,708 --> 00:25:30,083
How you doing, man?
- How you doing, man?
605
00:25:30,208 --> 00:25:31,833
Good to see you.
606
00:25:31,917 --> 00:25:36,917
♪
607
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,583
- Look at you.
- I'm gonna hug all of you.
608
00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:39,625
Is that OK?
- OK.
609
00:25:39,708 --> 00:25:42,375
- Yes.
You look amazing.
610
00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:43,583
- That's right.
- Hey there, beautiful.
611
00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:44,667
How are you?
- Yes.
612
00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:46,500
- Good.
How are you?
613
00:25:46,625 --> 00:25:49,833
[whispers] Hello.
- Hey.
614
00:25:49,917 --> 00:25:53,667
- Honestly, we were so,
as you know, worried.
615
00:25:53,708 --> 00:25:56,208
And it's just great
to see you being you
616
00:25:56,292 --> 00:25:58,500
and I guess having healed or--
617
00:25:58,667 --> 00:26:01,542
- Yeah.
Like, visibly, yeah.
618
00:26:01,625 --> 00:26:03,042
I feel like just
with what we're going through,
619
00:26:03,167 --> 00:26:05,667
it's kind of, like, a hard time
to, like, fully recover.
620
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:08,542
- Yeah. We know you're not
in a good place right now.
621
00:26:08,625 --> 00:26:11,000
And what we want
are happy marriages.
622
00:26:11,042 --> 00:26:13,625
But we'll take also
personal growth,
623
00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:15,583
accountability,
and feeling like
624
00:26:15,667 --> 00:26:18,417
we've left you better
to have a great relationship
625
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,792
with someone else
if it couldn't be here.
626
00:26:21,875 --> 00:26:24,125
- Yeah, um, you know,
627
00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:27,333
I grew to be a lot more
resilient than I thought.
628
00:26:27,375 --> 00:26:31,833
You know, before I would run
at the slightest red flag.
629
00:26:31,917 --> 00:26:35,458
And, you know--
or slightest inconvenience,
630
00:26:35,542 --> 00:26:40,125
right, and never really
giving it my all
631
00:26:40,125 --> 00:26:42,833
or giving it the full chance
of the relationship.
632
00:26:42,875 --> 00:26:48,375
And I see now the value of--
of that.
633
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,417
- While I think you say
you haven't ran,
634
00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:52,417
everything you just said
that you grew from
635
00:26:52,542 --> 00:26:55,500
is exactly what you did.
636
00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:58,292
And so I hope you can grow
from noticing that
637
00:26:58,375 --> 00:27:00,542
and what you're telling
yourself you want to hear
638
00:27:00,625 --> 00:27:03,500
because you ran in, I think,
639
00:27:03,583 --> 00:27:06,750
the hardest way
you've ever ran before.
640
00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:08,458
- So when you were there--
641
00:27:08,542 --> 00:27:11,042
when you needed someone the
most, who was there for you?
642
00:27:11,125 --> 00:27:13,042
- And again, like,
going and pulling my accident
643
00:27:13,125 --> 00:27:14,542
and saying you saved my life...
- I'm not pulling anything.
644
00:27:14,625 --> 00:27:15,667
- And being there for me--
- You're saying that
645
00:27:15,708 --> 00:27:16,542
I ran from everything.
It's like--
646
00:27:16,625 --> 00:27:18,375
- You did.
- I did not.
647
00:27:18,458 --> 00:27:20,583
I was with you every step.
- You checked the boxes.
648
00:27:20,708 --> 00:27:22,417
That's not--
- I was--
649
00:27:22,542 --> 00:27:23,333
- Brennan, do you see
that you're being
650
00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:24,500
defensive in this moment?
651
00:27:24,583 --> 00:27:27,000
- Yeah, do you see the attack?
652
00:27:27,083 --> 00:27:29,833
- No, I don't see an attack.
- OK.
653
00:27:29,875 --> 00:27:32,000
- Can you put into words
why you're feeling attacked
654
00:27:32,042 --> 00:27:33,708
in this moment?
655
00:27:33,833 --> 00:27:36,042
- Because it's all the things
that I didn't do.
656
00:27:36,125 --> 00:27:39,833
I really feel like
I did everything, you know?
657
00:27:39,917 --> 00:27:41,625
- When you're saying
you did everything,
658
00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:43,125
that's just not true,
659
00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,708
because there's homework
that you were given--
660
00:27:44,792 --> 00:27:45,875
I can at least speak
for myself,
661
00:27:45,958 --> 00:27:47,500
I don't know about
for the others--
662
00:27:47,542 --> 00:27:49,042
that you just simply
did not do.
663
00:27:49,125 --> 00:27:51,167
- Oh, I'm happy
to take accountability
664
00:27:51,292 --> 00:27:55,292
if you feel like that exercise
is what caused this whole--
665
00:27:55,375 --> 00:27:57,417
- That's definitely not what
I'm saying, the one exercise.
666
00:27:57,542 --> 00:28:01,208
I just feel like accountability
in general has not been taken.
667
00:28:01,208 --> 00:28:03,875
And instead, you like
to tell me that I need to take
668
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,667
accountability when I feel
like I have done everything
669
00:28:08,708 --> 00:28:13,083
and even have ignored signs
to see the best in you.
670
00:28:13,167 --> 00:28:17,375
But I think it was always
on your terms.
671
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,125
- So you deny that every time
672
00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:20,833
I asked you to come up
with a solution,
673
00:28:20,917 --> 00:28:22,792
and you pinned it on me
to come up with the solution,
674
00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:24,583
that that's what happened?
675
00:28:24,667 --> 00:28:28,167
And then we agreed
on the solution together.
676
00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:29,833
- I mean, I don't think
you necessarily--
677
00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:32,000
- Just say yes or no.
- No, it's not black and white.
678
00:28:32,083 --> 00:28:33,833
There have just been times
where you have tried
679
00:28:33,875 --> 00:28:37,375
to silence me,
tried to take control
680
00:28:37,458 --> 00:28:42,958
of the control-ables for you,
for us, for me.
681
00:28:43,042 --> 00:28:46,875
And that is through telling me
to delete diary cams
682
00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:48,833
and me feeling at times
that I couldn't fully
683
00:28:48,917 --> 00:28:53,083
stick up for myself
because of two reasons.
684
00:28:53,167 --> 00:28:56,917
One, I was trying to, like, fix
whatever was already broken.
685
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,750
And two, the repercussions
that you know happened
686
00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:03,458
after every single conversation
687
00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:07,958
if I was to say anything
negative about you at all.
688
00:29:08,042 --> 00:29:11,583
And you know that's
what you focused on.
689
00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:13,917
- You know, I know
we've had our exchanges.
690
00:29:14,042 --> 00:29:16,958
And in those arguments,
you acted out of character;
691
00:29:17,042 --> 00:29:18,667
I acted out of character.
692
00:29:18,708 --> 00:29:22,125
But we just didn't click
in that regard.
693
00:29:22,208 --> 00:29:28,000
And, like, it's just constant
negativity and all the time.
694
00:29:28,083 --> 00:29:30,292
And then hearing
you criticize our friends
695
00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:32,875
over their vows
and all these things,
696
00:29:32,958 --> 00:29:35,458
it's just like
a culmination of what I saw.
697
00:29:35,542 --> 00:29:37,042
- That was probably
the most hurtful thing you said
698
00:29:37,125 --> 00:29:40,000
because I am
the most positive person.
699
00:29:40,125 --> 00:29:43,000
I believe I am like a light
in the room, life of the party.
700
00:29:43,083 --> 00:29:46,667
And I think that you chose
to never see the best qualities
701
00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:48,083
in me on purpose
because I don't think
702
00:29:48,167 --> 00:29:50,917
you have them in yourself,
and you took that out on me.
703
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,917
- I don't think it defines you.
704
00:29:53,042 --> 00:29:54,958
I just think from
what I've seen
705
00:29:55,042 --> 00:29:58,375
and the effect it had on me,
that's where it's come from,
706
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,667
of where I just felt drained
and pushed away
707
00:30:01,708 --> 00:30:03,875
and that I didn't have
any effort left to give
708
00:30:03,958 --> 00:30:05,000
after a certain point.
709
00:30:05,125 --> 00:30:07,167
- To me, it's pretty fixable.
710
00:30:07,208 --> 00:30:11,917
And if I knew the severity of
my negative vibes in settings,
711
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,792
I could have fixed that.
712
00:30:13,875 --> 00:30:15,542
But as much as you broke up
with your exes
713
00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:16,958
for communication
and mind-reading,
714
00:30:16,958 --> 00:30:18,250
that's what you're doing to me.
715
00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:19,750
How was I supposed
to know that,
716
00:30:19,833 --> 00:30:21,000
when you're saying
that's a red flag
717
00:30:21,083 --> 00:30:22,917
and we're right going
into Decision Day?
718
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,333
- I was trying to protect you
the whole time by saying--
719
00:30:25,417 --> 00:30:26,833
- That's another thing.
- No, it's, like--the words--
720
00:30:26,958 --> 00:30:28,625
- Can you clarify
what you feel like
721
00:30:28,708 --> 00:30:30,417
you were protecting her from?
722
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:34,042
- The harsh words that could
have had a impact on her
723
00:30:34,125 --> 00:30:37,667
in a way that was detrimental
724
00:30:37,708 --> 00:30:41,792
because I care a lot about her,
and I wanted to be very mindful
725
00:30:41,875 --> 00:30:44,042
of how the words I was using
would affect her.
726
00:30:44,125 --> 00:30:45,667
And I wanted to be constructive
727
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:47,458
in a way that she could
still grow from it.
728
00:30:47,542 --> 00:30:53,667
But to her point, my efforts
weren't enough, and I--
729
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:54,917
- I think you keep going
back to the effort.
730
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,083
- It is, though.
- It's not--
731
00:30:56,167 --> 00:30:58,208
- My intention
and my effort was there.
732
00:30:58,292 --> 00:31:00,000
I was trying to protect you.
And I didn't--
733
00:31:00,125 --> 00:31:01,250
- I think--
- Looking back on it--
734
00:31:01,375 --> 00:31:03,000
- You saying
you protect me is effort.
735
00:31:03,042 --> 00:31:04,625
- Knowing--see--
- You have not protected me.
736
00:31:04,708 --> 00:31:07,000
- This is what I was trying
to avoid the whole time.
737
00:31:07,042 --> 00:31:09,167
But now, knowing what
the outcome would have been,
738
00:31:09,292 --> 00:31:11,292
regardless whether I tried
to protect her or not,
739
00:31:11,375 --> 00:31:12,833
I shouldn't have.
740
00:31:12,917 --> 00:31:14,458
- How do you know what
the outcome would have been?
741
00:31:14,542 --> 00:31:15,875
- No, that's what I'm saying.
- I told you, don't protect me.
742
00:31:15,958 --> 00:31:17,167
- If I would have known
the outcome, what would it be
743
00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:18,583
with me trying to protect you
versus not,
744
00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:20,750
that it would still be
the same that it is today,
745
00:31:20,833 --> 00:31:23,375
I would have not tried
to protect you.
746
00:31:23,458 --> 00:31:25,208
- OK, but here's the deal.
747
00:31:25,292 --> 00:31:27,542
You're saying that you were
trying to protect her,
748
00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:29,083
but I tell people all the time,
749
00:31:29,167 --> 00:31:30,292
marriage doesn't work;
you work.
750
00:31:30,375 --> 00:31:32,375
That means I'm willing
to be vulnerable.
751
00:31:32,458 --> 00:31:38,083
That means I'm willing to go
against my preconceived ideas
752
00:31:38,167 --> 00:31:42,833
of what I think and be open
to instruction, be malleable.
753
00:31:42,875 --> 00:31:45,792
It's what you did not do.
754
00:31:45,875 --> 00:31:47,500
One thing that's
really important
755
00:31:47,542 --> 00:31:49,083
is personal accountability.
756
00:31:49,167 --> 00:31:51,542
- No, it's--like,
I was trying to protect her
757
00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:53,583
and just use the words that
I thought were constructive,
758
00:31:53,667 --> 00:31:56,833
yet respectful.
759
00:31:56,875 --> 00:32:00,250
I take accountability for that
because that--
760
00:32:00,333 --> 00:32:02,500
I mean, like, what--like, I--
761
00:32:02,542 --> 00:32:05,333
- Look, I see--
762
00:32:05,458 --> 00:32:11,375
and I'm being
as respectful as possible--
763
00:32:11,458 --> 00:32:13,667
I see BS.
764
00:32:13,708 --> 00:32:16,167
♪
765
00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:18,000
I'm sorry, I do.
- Thank you.
766
00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:19,292
- I'm gonna be straight
with you.
767
00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:20,333
I'm gonna be straight
with you.
768
00:32:20,417 --> 00:32:22,833
I see complete BS.
769
00:32:22,917 --> 00:32:24,958
Is that OK to say?
- It's real.
770
00:32:25,042 --> 00:32:26,958
- That I was trying
to use less harsh words?
771
00:32:27,042 --> 00:32:28,500
- No, because here's--
let me explain.
772
00:32:28,625 --> 00:32:31,000
Here's what I see.
773
00:32:31,042 --> 00:32:35,083
Look, it was obvious in
my first meeting with you guys,
774
00:32:35,208 --> 00:32:37,333
I could tell you were
suppressing your emotions.
775
00:32:37,458 --> 00:32:40,208
I could tell
you were placating.
776
00:32:40,292 --> 00:32:43,917
Is there anything about her
that you were not attracted to?
777
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,792
- We're not doing that.
778
00:32:45,875 --> 00:32:47,958
- We're not doing that?
779
00:32:48,042 --> 00:32:50,625
But it was so early
in the relationship--
780
00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:54,208
from that first meeting, were
you planning to stay married?
781
00:32:54,292 --> 00:32:58,125
- Yeah, I was--
I had no intention of leaving.
782
00:32:58,208 --> 00:33:00,042
- OK, so you were invested
in this from day one?
783
00:33:00,125 --> 00:33:01,625
- Yeah, absolutely.
784
00:33:01,708 --> 00:33:03,083
- Do you believe that?
785
00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:04,875
- No, I believe actually
it was after the honeymoon
786
00:33:04,958 --> 00:33:07,667
where he was not.
787
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:12,542
- There's some serious
crossing of wires here, man,
788
00:33:12,625 --> 00:33:14,333
because you're saying,
"I was in this.
789
00:33:14,417 --> 00:33:16,125
"Look, I'm trying
to protect you.
790
00:33:16,208 --> 00:33:17,833
I'm not--"
and you're saying,
791
00:33:17,917 --> 00:33:20,542
"I never felt protected.
I never felt loved."
792
00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:23,333
So what we're seeing here
is a serious misfiring.
793
00:33:23,375 --> 00:33:27,000
- I don't think I've heard
from you, Brennan, ownership
794
00:33:27,083 --> 00:33:31,333
to any sort of emotional
disrespect toward Emily.
795
00:33:31,417 --> 00:33:33,875
And I want t--
I truly do want to give you
796
00:33:33,958 --> 00:33:35,917
the opportunity
to redeem yourself.
797
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,167
- Like, I didn't realize
what I was doing.
798
00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:42,042
But looking back, if it
appeared that way, I am sorry.
799
00:33:42,042 --> 00:33:44,750
[somber music]
800
00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:45,833
- Do you know what
you did though,
801
00:33:45,917 --> 00:33:47,875
that you were saying sorry to?
802
00:33:47,958 --> 00:33:49,625
- Um...
803
00:33:49,708 --> 00:33:54,250
♪
804
00:33:54,333 --> 00:33:56,875
- You want to tell him?
805
00:33:56,958 --> 00:34:00,083
- OK.
I felt disrespected
806
00:34:00,208 --> 00:34:03,208
from the day I came over
after the honeymoon
807
00:34:03,292 --> 00:34:06,167
because I knew in that setting
that you friend-zoned me.
808
00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:08,250
You knew we were gonna
get a divorce
809
00:34:08,333 --> 00:34:10,042
and that you were not gonna
give this your all.
810
00:34:10,125 --> 00:34:12,375
And you didn't respect me
enough as a person
811
00:34:12,458 --> 00:34:16,167
to allow that chance
on behalf of me and us both.
812
00:34:16,208 --> 00:34:18,333
Also for how you treat
813
00:34:18,375 --> 00:34:20,708
and speak to me disrespectfully
off camera.
814
00:34:20,792 --> 00:34:23,333
But what he's also said through
this is, like, he pities me,
815
00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:26,167
that you don't want yourself
to be the reason
816
00:34:26,208 --> 00:34:27,917
why I don't date ever again.
817
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,500
Just respecting me and, like,
asking me to delete diary cams,
818
00:34:31,542 --> 00:34:33,833
and trying to control
the narrative,
819
00:34:33,875 --> 00:34:37,167
whether you say it's for us,
and at times it felt for you,
820
00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:38,667
that was disrespectful.
821
00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:42,167
♪
822
00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:44,000
- And I see that now.
823
00:34:44,083 --> 00:34:46,583
So I'm sorry
that I tried to protect you.
824
00:34:46,667 --> 00:34:51,292
And I shouldn't have
because you didn't--
825
00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:53,250
♪
826
00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:56,500
I thought I was trying
to do right by you
827
00:34:56,542 --> 00:34:59,208
and what was best for you,
but in turn, it didn't.
828
00:34:59,292 --> 00:35:01,500
So I'm sorry about that.
829
00:35:01,583 --> 00:35:03,875
- Do you think that the things
you would want to say
830
00:35:03,958 --> 00:35:05,833
would be devastating to her?
831
00:35:05,875 --> 00:35:08,250
- Yes.
832
00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:11,375
- I mean, he also threatened me
the other day and said
833
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:14,375
he had enough to ruin my life
on TV after this all came out.
834
00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:16,125
So, like, no,
I don't believe that.
835
00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:19,500
And again, I'm a strong person,
and I've told him that
836
00:35:19,542 --> 00:35:22,667
nothing he can say can really
hurt me at this point.
837
00:35:22,708 --> 00:35:27,000
That would actually be progress
versus saying nothing at all.
838
00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:28,458
- You told me you wanted
to go to war with me.
839
00:35:28,542 --> 00:35:30,083
So I was just--
- I did not say that.
840
00:35:30,167 --> 00:35:31,333
- OK.
- Brennan, I want you to have
841
00:35:31,417 --> 00:35:32,375
the opportunity
to respond to that
842
00:35:32,458 --> 00:35:34,250
because that's
a strong allegation.
843
00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:37,167
She's saying that you said you
have enough to ruin her on TV.
844
00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:39,292
- She told me she wanted
to go to war with me.
845
00:35:39,375 --> 00:35:41,000
I was trying my hardest...
- I did not say that.
846
00:35:41,042 --> 00:35:42,958
- To prevent any of this
from happening.
847
00:35:43,042 --> 00:35:45,125
And maybe I said that.
I don't know.
848
00:35:45,208 --> 00:35:49,042
But it was a very hostile
exchange, so--
849
00:35:49,125 --> 00:35:51,000
- But you made it hostile
afterward.
850
00:35:51,042 --> 00:35:52,208
We talked about it--
- You told me
851
00:35:52,333 --> 00:35:54,083
everyone hates me;
everyone's against me.
852
00:35:54,208 --> 00:35:55,417
- I did not say that.
853
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:57,125
- Oh, my God.
- When did I say that?
854
00:35:57,208 --> 00:35:58,375
It's on a FaceTime.
- Emily, I really...
855
00:35:58,458 --> 00:36:00,417
- It's recorded.
- Don't know what reality
856
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:01,500
you're in.
- I don't know what reality
857
00:36:01,542 --> 00:36:03,667
you're living in.
That's the scary part.
858
00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:10,333
- Well, I think it's safe
to say that there is--
859
00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:15,375
that you guys are
irretrievably broken.
860
00:36:15,375 --> 00:36:18,333
I'm not going to fight
for you to stay married.
861
00:36:18,375 --> 00:36:23,375
- So I think the time has come
to make your decisions
862
00:36:23,458 --> 00:36:25,458
about whether you want
to stay married
863
00:36:25,583 --> 00:36:28,000
or you want to get a divorce.
864
00:36:28,083 --> 00:36:30,500
♪
865
00:36:30,583 --> 00:36:34,500
- I came into this knowing
who I was and what I wanted.
866
00:36:34,625 --> 00:36:40,125
And I can't necessarily say
the same case for you.
867
00:36:40,208 --> 00:36:43,292
Given that I know I deserve
better than you
868
00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:47,167
and better than this, and both
from a romantic relationship
869
00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:49,250
and a friendship standpoint,
870
00:36:49,333 --> 00:36:53,292
and most importantly,
I deserve respect,
871
00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:57,083
which I don't think I received
through this relationship,
872
00:36:57,167 --> 00:37:01,500
and what I know I will now need
more than ever moving forward.
873
00:37:01,625 --> 00:37:06,375
And therefore,
I would like a divorce.
874
00:37:06,458 --> 00:37:09,500
- Yeah, I've done my best
875
00:37:09,625 --> 00:37:12,625
through and through
this entire relationship.
876
00:37:12,708 --> 00:37:16,958
And I am sorry if you ever felt
like I tried to silence you.
877
00:37:17,042 --> 00:37:20,458
That was never my intention.
878
00:37:20,542 --> 00:37:23,708
But the reality is,
we just don't click
879
00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:27,500
from a physical
or emotional perspective.
880
00:37:27,583 --> 00:37:31,542
And, you know,
it's not a blame thing.
881
00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:32,917
It's not you did
anything wrong.
882
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,917
It's not I did anything wrong.
883
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,125
We tried,
and it just didn't work.
884
00:37:39,208 --> 00:37:43,458
So with that, I would like
to get a divorce.
885
00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:45,625
- [sighs]
I want to offer you hope,
886
00:37:45,708 --> 00:37:49,167
because a failed marriage does
not mean a failed person, OK?
887
00:37:49,292 --> 00:37:51,875
So I'm hoping that
what you've learned,
888
00:37:51,958 --> 00:37:55,625
you, Emily, your accident,
you know, your growth,
889
00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:58,250
your finding your voice,
your speaking up
890
00:37:58,333 --> 00:38:00,625
and standing for yourself,
and knowing who you are,
891
00:38:00,708 --> 00:38:04,208
going forward, you're gonna
have so much more depth
892
00:38:04,333 --> 00:38:06,167
as you enter new relationships.
893
00:38:06,292 --> 00:38:07,625
And that--and I'm happy
about that.
894
00:38:07,708 --> 00:38:10,542
And for you, Brennan, you know,
the self-awareness,
895
00:38:10,542 --> 00:38:13,375
you know, the accountability,
understanding,
896
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:17,083
hey, look, you know, I need
to maybe even look deeper,
897
00:38:17,167 --> 00:38:19,875
you know,
in my next relationship.
898
00:38:19,958 --> 00:38:23,458
I'm really hoping that
you all have learned that.
899
00:38:23,542 --> 00:38:28,333
And do not carry
this baggage forward, OK?
900
00:38:28,375 --> 00:38:30,583
But with that being said,
thank you guys so much.
901
00:38:30,667 --> 00:38:31,667
- Thank you.
902
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:33,750
- And we wish you
the absolute best.
903
00:38:33,875 --> 00:38:35,000
- We do.
- Yeah, we do.
904
00:38:35,125 --> 00:38:36,000
- Appreciate it.
- Thank you.
905
00:38:36,042 --> 00:38:37,917
- Thank you.
- [sighs]
906
00:38:37,917 --> 00:38:39,083
- Ugh.
907
00:38:39,208 --> 00:38:40,417
- Man, that was
a tough journey.
908
00:38:40,542 --> 00:38:41,583
It was tough.
It was tough.
909
00:38:41,708 --> 00:38:43,625
It was tough.
It was tough.
910
00:38:43,708 --> 00:38:45,000
You're gonna be all right.
- Thank you.
911
00:38:45,042 --> 00:38:45,958
- You're gonna be all right.
- I'm so proud of you.
912
00:38:46,042 --> 00:38:47,375
I'm so proud of you.
913
00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:49,208
- Thank you.
914
00:38:49,292 --> 00:38:51,333
- You're welcome.
Take care.
915
00:38:51,458 --> 00:38:52,833
- All right, kiddo.
- All right.
916
00:38:52,875 --> 00:38:54,792
- If you need any support
on this, let me know.
917
00:38:54,875 --> 00:38:56,417
- Thank you.
- [whispers] You OK, sweetie?
918
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:58,000
- [sniffles]
- Don't ever let anyone
919
00:38:58,083 --> 00:38:59,000
make you feel bad
about yourself.
920
00:38:59,083 --> 00:39:00,208
- Mm-hmm.
921
00:39:00,292 --> 00:39:02,167
- OK?
- Yeah.
922
00:39:02,208 --> 00:39:03,542
- Come here, come here.
923
00:39:03,667 --> 00:39:05,625
- I am very sad to be divorced.
924
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:09,375
But I am also very relieved
925
00:39:09,458 --> 00:39:13,167
to start working through
what this has done to me
926
00:39:13,208 --> 00:39:16,417
from both a positive
and a negative lens.
927
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:18,208
And I'm also ready to,
like, refocus on myself
928
00:39:18,292 --> 00:39:20,667
because I haven't been able
to work through
929
00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:23,167
a lot of stuff
that came with this.
930
00:39:23,292 --> 00:39:24,875
- You are a phenomenal woman.
931
00:39:24,958 --> 00:39:26,792
And I want you to walk away
knowing that.
932
00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:29,708
It's beaming from you,
your character.
933
00:39:29,792 --> 00:39:31,167
So I wanted to leave you
with that.
934
00:39:31,208 --> 00:39:32,333
- Thank you.
935
00:39:32,375 --> 00:39:33,833
So I'm really just
actually excited
936
00:39:33,875 --> 00:39:37,708
to just go back to being Emily,
party of one,
937
00:39:37,792 --> 00:39:42,667
and not stopping and, like,
continuing to start therapy
938
00:39:42,708 --> 00:39:45,250
and work through this,
and just continue to be me
939
00:39:45,333 --> 00:39:50,000
and learn as much
as I can from this.
940
00:39:50,125 --> 00:39:51,333
♪
941
00:39:51,417 --> 00:39:54,167
- ♪ I'll be all right
942
00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:58,125
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
943
00:39:58,208 --> 00:40:00,875
♪ Yeah, I'll be all right
944
00:40:05,208 --> 00:40:07,708
[acoustic guitar music]
945
00:40:07,792 --> 00:40:10,417
♪
946
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,958
- I think, like,
we're gonna have, like,
947
00:40:14,042 --> 00:40:16,500
a lot to figure out
in the next couple days.
948
00:40:16,625 --> 00:40:17,917
- Yeah.
- It's OK.
949
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,833
It's good.
950
00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:20,333
- Yeah.
951
00:40:20,417 --> 00:40:21,833
And I think
I just really, like,
952
00:40:21,958 --> 00:40:24,542
want to refocus on myself
because I feel like
953
00:40:24,625 --> 00:40:26,333
I've lost myself
in a lot of this.
954
00:40:26,333 --> 00:40:29,125
And I think--
955
00:40:29,208 --> 00:40:30,500
- Yeah, I think that's healthy.
956
00:40:30,542 --> 00:40:32,042
I think that's--
- Yeah.
957
00:40:32,125 --> 00:40:33,458
- Smart.
958
00:40:33,542 --> 00:40:35,333
- Yeah, and like
I said, just, like,
959
00:40:35,458 --> 00:40:38,667
trying to clear off
the lens that I've been,
960
00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:40,667
like, viewing all of this in--
961
00:40:40,792 --> 00:40:41,833
- Yeah.
962
00:40:41,875 --> 00:40:43,000
- Because it's
definitely gotten
963
00:40:43,042 --> 00:40:43,958
blurred by a few things.
964
00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:45,583
- Yeah.
965
00:40:45,667 --> 00:40:48,792
- I think I would be...
966
00:40:48,875 --> 00:40:51,292
misleading if I said that
I wasn't anxious about it.
967
00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:52,667
- Are you?
- Yeah.
968
00:40:52,708 --> 00:40:53,833
- I'm sorry.
- It's OK.
969
00:40:53,875 --> 00:40:56,000
I just--
970
00:40:56,083 --> 00:40:57,333
- I am happy.
971
00:40:57,375 --> 00:40:58,875
- [chuckles]
972
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,875
- I hope you are, too.
973
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,833
- I'm--
974
00:41:01,917 --> 00:41:04,000
- I'm not sure I get that vibe
from you, if I'm being honest.
975
00:41:04,083 --> 00:41:05,583
- I'm--I just--
976
00:41:05,667 --> 00:41:06,833
I haven't--like,
these last three weeks,
977
00:41:06,917 --> 00:41:09,167
I, like, haven't been happy,
you know?
978
00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:11,167
- Yeah.
979
00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:12,542
- And the decision
that I made today
980
00:41:12,625 --> 00:41:14,792
is in hopes that
I can find that again.
981
00:41:14,875 --> 00:41:18,000
And hopefully, it's with you.
982
00:41:18,125 --> 00:41:20,167
- Yeah, I get it.
983
00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:21,667
Feel the same.
984
00:41:21,708 --> 00:41:22,792
- Yeah.
985
00:41:22,875 --> 00:41:24,375
OK.
986
00:41:24,458 --> 00:41:27,000
- I think the process of
the production element
987
00:41:27,042 --> 00:41:29,792
is very hard and
stressful and challenging.
988
00:41:29,875 --> 00:41:32,667
And I think some people can
handle it better than others.
989
00:41:32,708 --> 00:41:36,167
And I'm not sure--and
I think that has been
990
00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:37,833
a challenge for me as well.
991
00:41:37,958 --> 00:41:41,458
And, you know, I think
there's a lot of work to do
992
00:41:41,542 --> 00:41:43,000
and a lot more to figure out.
993
00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:45,333
But, you know,
I'm gonna try my best.
994
00:41:45,417 --> 00:41:48,000
And I'm choosing
Becca right now.
995
00:41:48,083 --> 00:41:53,042
I'm choosing to continue
to do what I can
996
00:41:53,125 --> 00:41:54,458
to make this marriage work.
997
00:41:54,542 --> 00:41:56,375
- ♪ Better love,
a better you ♪
998
00:41:56,458 --> 00:41:57,875
♪ A better me
999
00:41:57,958 --> 00:42:00,708
♪ A better two
1000
00:42:00,792 --> 00:42:02,292
- I do love this jacket.
1001
00:42:02,375 --> 00:42:04,333
- ♪ Finally found forever
1002
00:42:04,417 --> 00:42:06,458
♪
1003
00:42:06,542 --> 00:42:09,833
- ♪ Break out
into the spotlight ♪
1004
00:42:09,917 --> 00:42:14,375
♪ One chance
the victory is you ♪
1005
00:42:14,458 --> 00:42:15,667
- Who's up?
1006
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:16,708
- Cameron and Clare.
1007
00:42:16,792 --> 00:42:18,667
- Cameron and Clare--
1008
00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:19,708
wow.
1009
00:42:19,792 --> 00:42:20,958
- Ooh.
1010
00:42:21,083 --> 00:42:23,500
- You know, between
their separating
1011
00:42:23,542 --> 00:42:25,417
because they felt
it was toxic,
1012
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:28,542
and then him getting
a serious scare
1013
00:42:28,625 --> 00:42:31,375
as well as real
physical challenge,
1014
00:42:31,458 --> 00:42:33,167
I mean--
- It's just been so much.
1015
00:42:33,292 --> 00:42:35,000
- I know.
1016
00:42:35,083 --> 00:42:36,875
And, you know, we don't really
know what's really been going
1017
00:42:36,958 --> 00:42:38,333
on in his head very well.
And--
1018
00:42:38,417 --> 00:42:39,917
- Mm-hmm.
1019
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,375
- We want to make sure
that they have
1020
00:42:41,458 --> 00:42:43,875
truly exhausted all options.
1021
00:42:43,958 --> 00:42:45,167
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1022
00:42:45,167 --> 00:42:46,167
- Yeah.
- Should we go?
1023
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:49,542
- Yeah, let's go.
- Let's go meet with them.
1024
00:42:49,667 --> 00:42:52,500
[pop music]
1025
00:42:52,583 --> 00:42:54,792
♪
1026
00:42:54,875 --> 00:42:58,583
- ♪ My heart skipped a beat
when I saw you ♪
1027
00:42:58,667 --> 00:43:03,292
♪ Yeah, I saw the sparkle
inside your eyes ♪
1028
00:43:03,375 --> 00:43:04,708
- The first time
I saw Cameron,
1029
00:43:04,792 --> 00:43:06,750
I thought, he's very handsome.
1030
00:43:06,833 --> 00:43:09,500
He's a very good-looking man.
1031
00:43:09,583 --> 00:43:11,958
- Meet for the very
first time Cameron--
1032
00:43:12,042 --> 00:43:13,333
- Cameron.
- Your husband-to-be.
1033
00:43:13,375 --> 00:43:14,583
- I love it.
1034
00:43:14,667 --> 00:43:16,000
He's very tall.
1035
00:43:16,083 --> 00:43:18,542
Were you like,
I don't want a short girl?
1036
00:43:18,625 --> 00:43:20,250
- No, I didn't say that.
1037
00:43:20,250 --> 00:43:21,792
- [laughs]
1038
00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:23,583
- Cameron has a lot
of amazing qualities,
1039
00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:26,875
like being very smart,
hard-working.
1040
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,375
- How we look?
1041
00:43:28,458 --> 00:43:30,167
- You look very official.
1042
00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:33,333
- [vocalizing]
1043
00:43:33,375 --> 00:43:34,792
♪ When you're by my side
1044
00:43:34,875 --> 00:43:36,542
- Whenever Cameron
and I are together,
1045
00:43:36,625 --> 00:43:39,417
it's very easy to laugh--
1046
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,833
[laughing]
Are you kidding me?
1047
00:43:41,875 --> 00:43:45,125
To be ourselves and just
learn from each other.
1048
00:43:45,208 --> 00:43:47,500
And that's such an
important thing for me.
1049
00:43:47,542 --> 00:43:49,458
- Even with the limited
romance we have,
1050
00:43:49,542 --> 00:43:52,167
I am getting attached to you.
1051
00:43:52,292 --> 00:43:54,542
- But Cameron also lacks
some of the things
1052
00:43:54,625 --> 00:43:55,833
I need in a husband.
1053
00:43:55,917 --> 00:43:57,667
[melancholy music]
1054
00:43:57,708 --> 00:44:00,167
Just, like, the desire
to be, like, wanted--
1055
00:44:00,208 --> 00:44:02,500
I sometimes don't feel that
with Cameron.
1056
00:44:02,542 --> 00:44:04,417
I'm not sure if we've,
like, hit a wall.
1057
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,583
There is zero romance.
1058
00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:08,208
- ♪ No easy way to find
1059
00:44:08,333 --> 00:44:09,708
- So how is your relationship
with your father?
1060
00:44:09,792 --> 00:44:11,083
Does he know you're on this?
1061
00:44:11,167 --> 00:44:12,292
- No.
- [gasps]
1062
00:44:12,375 --> 00:44:14,000
- Really?
1063
00:44:14,042 --> 00:44:18,000
- ♪ I'm so sorry for
the words I've spoken ♪
1064
00:44:18,125 --> 00:44:22,292
- Cameron does struggle
with opening up emotionally.
1065
00:44:22,375 --> 00:44:26,458
And it does make me feel
like he's pushing me away.
1066
00:44:26,542 --> 00:44:28,250
[softly]
I'm so sorry.
1067
00:44:28,333 --> 00:44:30,167
[sniffles]
1068
00:44:30,208 --> 00:44:35,125
I feel sad because of the hope
that I had for my marriage.
1069
00:44:35,208 --> 00:44:37,833
But I'm also feeling
really grateful.
1070
00:44:37,917 --> 00:44:41,833
I couldn't do this process
with anyone else, truly.
1071
00:44:41,875 --> 00:44:45,167
And so I am incredibly
grateful for him.
1072
00:44:45,250 --> 00:44:48,750
- ♪ I'm sorry
1073
00:44:48,833 --> 00:44:50,208
[uplifting music]
1074
00:44:50,292 --> 00:44:53,917
- The first time I saw Clare,
I thought, wow.
1075
00:44:53,917 --> 00:44:55,167
- You look nice.
- Thank you.
1076
00:44:55,208 --> 00:44:57,125
You are--I mean,
you are breathtaking.
1077
00:44:57,208 --> 00:44:58,625
- [laughs]
1078
00:44:58,708 --> 00:45:00,875
- You are truly such
an amazing person.
1079
00:45:00,958 --> 00:45:02,625
- Aw.
1080
00:45:02,708 --> 00:45:04,667
- And it doesn't help that
you're easy on the eyes.
1081
00:45:04,750 --> 00:45:06,167
I mean, it helps.
1082
00:45:06,250 --> 00:45:07,542
It helps that you're
easy on the eyes.
1083
00:45:07,625 --> 00:45:09,083
- [giggles]
1084
00:45:09,167 --> 00:45:10,542
- ♪ And while
the skies are blue ♪
1085
00:45:10,667 --> 00:45:12,500
- I respect him so much.
1086
00:45:12,583 --> 00:45:14,625
- The best person,
maybe ever, I've met.
1087
00:45:14,708 --> 00:45:15,750
Like--
- Oh.
1088
00:45:15,875 --> 00:45:16,792
- I am--truly, truly.
1089
00:45:16,917 --> 00:45:18,500
- That's so nice.
1090
00:45:18,583 --> 00:45:21,667
- But because we don't have
that baseline connection
1091
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:26,542
to fall back on,
we do tend to fall apart.
1092
00:45:26,667 --> 00:45:28,000
One, two, three.
1093
00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:30,375
I want a divorce.
- Separated.
1094
00:45:30,458 --> 00:45:32,000
- Same thing, same answer.
Yeah.
1095
00:45:32,042 --> 00:45:33,833
I only speak
to our experience.
1096
00:45:33,917 --> 00:45:36,000
But it's been very difficult
for Clare and I.
1097
00:45:36,083 --> 00:45:39,917
There are some big things that
we just simply don't align on.
1098
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,583
It can be hard to
connect with Clare
1099
00:45:43,667 --> 00:45:47,625
because sometimes she hears
what she wants to hear.
1100
00:45:47,708 --> 00:45:49,000
- It's not like you
can just naturally
1101
00:45:49,042 --> 00:45:50,917
just come over
and give me a kiss.
1102
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,333
Like, that's not natural for
you to do that to me, right?
1103
00:45:53,375 --> 00:45:54,833
- Well, I would.
1104
00:45:54,875 --> 00:45:56,750
- Hmm, that's interesting.
OK.
1105
00:45:56,875 --> 00:45:58,917
- ♪ Yeah, I see you
1106
00:45:59,042 --> 00:46:03,208
- I think Clare
could have done better
1107
00:46:03,333 --> 00:46:06,333
focusing on building
a stronger connection.
1108
00:46:06,375 --> 00:46:08,250
I'd say the most painful thing
about all this
1109
00:46:08,375 --> 00:46:11,333
is Clare and I, I think,
are extremely compatible.
1110
00:46:11,375 --> 00:46:13,167
Just the more time
I spend around her,
1111
00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:15,583
the more and more
I'm getting attached.
1112
00:46:15,708 --> 00:46:17,375
I'm here to try.
1113
00:46:17,458 --> 00:46:19,292
And I'm happy to try.
1114
00:46:19,375 --> 00:46:23,500
However, I would be doing
myself a great disservice
1115
00:46:23,583 --> 00:46:28,542
if we really thought there
was no future because the--
1116
00:46:28,625 --> 00:46:30,583
it's literally just pain
at that point.
1117
00:46:30,708 --> 00:46:34,208
♪
1118
00:46:34,292 --> 00:46:36,458
But if there is
a potential future,
1119
00:46:36,542 --> 00:46:39,625
then the pain is worth it.
1120
00:46:39,708 --> 00:46:43,542
- ♪ Fire, so close
1121
00:46:43,667 --> 00:46:47,417
- So if she--if she says that
she wants to stay together,
1122
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:49,875
I'm going to stay together
with her on Decision Day.
1123
00:46:49,958 --> 00:46:52,792
- ♪ Like a fire
1124
00:46:52,875 --> 00:46:54,667
♪ So hold on
1125
00:46:54,708 --> 00:46:56,542
♪
1126
00:47:00,542 --> 00:47:02,167
- [vocalizing]
1127
00:47:02,208 --> 00:47:08,500
♪
1128
00:47:08,625 --> 00:47:11,667
♪ Let the walls come down
1129
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:15,375
♪
1130
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:16,667
- Hi, Cameron.
Come on in.
1131
00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:19,667
- Hello.
- Hello.
1132
00:47:19,708 --> 00:47:20,792
- Nice to see you.
1133
00:47:20,875 --> 00:47:22,333
- You as well.
1134
00:47:22,417 --> 00:47:23,750
- I don't remember you
as being this tall.
1135
00:47:23,875 --> 00:47:25,167
[both chuckling]
1136
00:47:25,208 --> 00:47:27,167
♪
1137
00:47:27,292 --> 00:47:31,792
- All right, how are you
feeling health-wise, Cameron?
1138
00:47:31,875 --> 00:47:33,208
- A lot better.
1139
00:47:33,333 --> 00:47:36,667
But stupidly,
I upped the medication,
1140
00:47:36,792 --> 00:47:38,083
thinking I needed to.
1141
00:47:38,167 --> 00:47:39,708
- Do you need a snack
or something?
1142
00:47:39,792 --> 00:47:41,083
- What medication
are they giving you?
1143
00:47:41,167 --> 00:47:42,458
- So I'm on beta blockers,
blood thinners--
1144
00:47:42,583 --> 00:47:44,417
- Oh, just--
- Blood thinners?
1145
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:45,333
- So you've got to be careful
standing up and getting down.
1146
00:47:45,417 --> 00:47:46,625
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1147
00:47:46,708 --> 00:47:47,833
- Yeah, yeah.
But it's fine.
1148
00:47:47,875 --> 00:47:49,125
We'll get through it, yeah.
1149
00:47:49,208 --> 00:47:50,375
- All right,
please let us know.
1150
00:47:50,458 --> 00:47:52,333
Don't push yourself.
- Yeah, it'll be fine.
1151
00:47:52,375 --> 00:47:53,583
- OK, here comes Clare.
1152
00:47:53,667 --> 00:47:54,875
[gentle music]
1153
00:47:54,958 --> 00:47:57,625
- Come on down.
- Here she is.
1154
00:47:57,708 --> 00:47:59,750
- Hey.
1155
00:47:59,833 --> 00:48:01,000
- You look nice.
1156
00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:03,000
- You look great, by the way.
1157
00:48:03,042 --> 00:48:04,958
- Miss you.
- You, too.
1158
00:48:05,042 --> 00:48:06,958
- Oh, where do I sit?
1159
00:48:07,042 --> 00:48:08,708
- Here, I think, yeah?
1160
00:48:08,792 --> 00:48:10,000
- OK.
1161
00:48:10,042 --> 00:48:11,958
- Hi, guys.
- Hi.
1162
00:48:12,042 --> 00:48:13,417
- It's good to have
you here together.
1163
00:48:13,542 --> 00:48:15,042
- Yeah.
1164
00:48:15,167 --> 00:48:17,625
- You know, because
you've already separated,
1165
00:48:17,708 --> 00:48:22,542
I want to ask you about the
moment when Cameron got ill
1166
00:48:22,667 --> 00:48:27,125
and had to face some
scary things about his heart.
1167
00:48:27,208 --> 00:48:29,750
So tell me a little bit
about that period.
1168
00:48:29,833 --> 00:48:32,500
- From my perspective,
1169
00:48:32,583 --> 00:48:38,167
my experience of my condition
came after we separated.
1170
00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:44,000
And I wanted Clare to know
that she had no commitment
1171
00:48:44,042 --> 00:48:48,083
to me to take care of me.
1172
00:48:48,167 --> 00:48:53,333
And I also wanted her to know
that it would be easier for me
1173
00:48:53,417 --> 00:48:58,208
to kind of work through
the situation more on my own.
1174
00:48:58,333 --> 00:49:01,792
I've faced other
health challenges in my life.
1175
00:49:01,875 --> 00:49:06,167
And I--I'm just gonna say,
selfishly,
1176
00:49:06,208 --> 00:49:08,333
usually, the more people
that get involved,
1177
00:49:08,375 --> 00:49:10,792
the harder it is
as an individual
1178
00:49:10,875 --> 00:49:13,333
to actually accomplish
1179
00:49:13,417 --> 00:49:15,500
your goal of focusing
on your health.
1180
00:49:15,583 --> 00:49:17,333
- Hmm.
1181
00:49:17,417 --> 00:49:19,958
- You know, if I were ill,
I would have--
1182
00:49:20,042 --> 00:49:22,000
I would want just
people around me.
1183
00:49:22,083 --> 00:49:25,250
And so I have to recognize
that you wanted to be alone.
1184
00:49:25,333 --> 00:49:28,000
And that was really
hard for me because
1185
00:49:28,042 --> 00:49:30,167
I felt like we were
already at a pretty
1186
00:49:30,250 --> 00:49:32,167
tough spot in our relationship.
1187
00:49:32,208 --> 00:49:33,875
But at that point,
it wasn't about me.
1188
00:49:33,958 --> 00:49:36,000
It was just like,
how can I support you?
1189
00:49:36,083 --> 00:49:39,083
But I think there was
a massively large wall
1190
00:49:39,083 --> 00:49:40,542
that was put in between us.
1191
00:49:40,625 --> 00:49:42,250
And we just distanced--
1192
00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:43,958
I feel like what
I was feeling was that
1193
00:49:44,042 --> 00:49:46,167
you were distancing me
further and further away.
1194
00:49:46,208 --> 00:49:49,125
And for me, it's like
I still want to be somewhere.
1195
00:49:49,208 --> 00:49:51,500
As someone who is, like,
empathetic and nurturing,
1196
00:49:51,542 --> 00:49:54,417
to show you that I care--
I wanted to be there.
1197
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:56,458
And it just felt like
you didn't want me there.
1198
00:49:56,542 --> 00:49:58,000
But again, I had to--
1199
00:49:58,042 --> 00:49:59,417
your health is
the number one thing.
1200
00:49:59,542 --> 00:50:01,167
And that's not my place to
tell you what's best for you.
1201
00:50:01,250 --> 00:50:02,708
- And--
1202
00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:04,042
- It just--it felt like
we were growing
1203
00:50:04,125 --> 00:50:05,708
further and further apart.
1204
00:50:05,792 --> 00:50:10,333
- But you are such an
empathetic, caring person
1205
00:50:10,375 --> 00:50:16,083
that I felt your emotion
towards me in that moment.
1206
00:50:16,167 --> 00:50:18,833
And I will put my
hand up and say,
1207
00:50:18,875 --> 00:50:20,833
I was too weak to take it.
1208
00:50:20,917 --> 00:50:22,375
I was too weak to accept it.
1209
00:50:22,458 --> 00:50:25,167
But, you know, I was
extremely appreciative
1210
00:50:25,292 --> 00:50:28,333
of what I would call love,
right?
1211
00:50:28,417 --> 00:50:29,833
- Yeah.
1212
00:50:29,917 --> 00:50:32,333
- And you are someone
who I've really
1213
00:50:32,417 --> 00:50:35,667
not come across in my life
in any capacity.
1214
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:38,542
And to know that there
are people like you out there
1215
00:50:38,625 --> 00:50:41,500
that I really think,
in just very slightly
1216
00:50:41,625 --> 00:50:45,125
different circumstances, that
we could have had, you know,
1217
00:50:45,208 --> 00:50:46,917
a successful relationship,
1218
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,875
and we could have had
a successful marriage.
1219
00:50:47,958 --> 00:50:49,583
- Yeah.
1220
00:50:49,667 --> 00:50:52,333
But also, like, reflecting on
our whole marriage,
1221
00:50:52,417 --> 00:50:56,000
I feel like it--there was many,
many misunderstandings
1222
00:50:56,042 --> 00:50:59,667
and many ways that you
viewed a situation
1223
00:50:59,792 --> 00:51:01,583
that I viewed differently.
1224
00:51:01,708 --> 00:51:03,167
And I feel like we just
couldn't get on the same page
1225
00:51:03,208 --> 00:51:04,333
about a lot of things.
1226
00:51:04,417 --> 00:51:08,708
- We just have just somehow,
1227
00:51:08,792 --> 00:51:12,250
like, 100/100 record of just
1228
00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:14,667
remembering the same
conversation differently.
1229
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:18,792
- What got in the way of having
this conversation with us?
1230
00:51:18,792 --> 00:51:20,708
- I don't know.
1231
00:51:20,833 --> 00:51:22,750
- I don't know why I didn't
bring up these issues before.
1232
00:51:22,833 --> 00:51:25,417
I think we were just so busy
protecting each other
1233
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,375
and trying not to
make each other be
1234
00:51:27,458 --> 00:51:30,708
looked in a negative light
that it literally--
1235
00:51:30,833 --> 00:51:32,667
we weren't opening up to you
guys like we should have been.
1236
00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:34,167
- Yeah.
1237
00:51:34,208 --> 00:51:36,167
- Maybe we shot ourselves
in the foot.
1238
00:51:36,208 --> 00:51:40,417
But we did talk about,
like, what did we ask for?
1239
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:46,458
And in hindsight, it was too
early for that conversation.
1240
00:51:46,542 --> 00:51:52,333
And she took issue with
the word "slender."
1241
00:51:52,375 --> 00:51:58,917
And she basically said that
she felt that she was not.
1242
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,250
And I said, well,
from my perspective,
1243
00:52:04,333 --> 00:52:05,625
you absolutely are.
1244
00:52:05,708 --> 00:52:07,625
Like, it wasn't just,
like, a discussion
1245
00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:09,375
about what I was trying--
like, I was literally arguing
1246
00:52:09,458 --> 00:52:12,375
with her that how
she saw her body
1247
00:52:12,458 --> 00:52:14,375
was very different than
how I saw her body.
1248
00:52:14,375 --> 00:52:16,042
- Like, I have had
a history with, like,
1249
00:52:16,125 --> 00:52:17,917
you know, body image issues.
1250
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,292
And so that was, like--it made
me feel like I'm not his type.
1251
00:52:21,292 --> 00:52:23,000
The sad thing is
I feel like I had
1252
00:52:23,083 --> 00:52:24,500
to hear from people around me.
1253
00:52:24,583 --> 00:52:26,542
- But I did make a lot
of compliments to you.
1254
00:52:26,625 --> 00:52:28,500
- You did.
1255
00:52:28,542 --> 00:52:31,417
And I'm sorry I wasn't able to
take it because of how I felt.
1256
00:52:31,542 --> 00:52:33,167
And again, that's where
we're disconnected there.
1257
00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:34,833
And we tried really hard.
1258
00:52:34,917 --> 00:52:36,167
- So can you help me
understand,
1259
00:52:36,250 --> 00:52:37,458
how did we not have, like,
1260
00:52:37,542 --> 00:52:38,833
further conversation
about this?
1261
00:52:38,875 --> 00:52:40,000
Because it sounds like
there's a misunderstanding.
1262
00:52:40,083 --> 00:52:41,667
- I said--right.
1263
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:43,667
I mean, to be honest with you,
after the honeymoon,
1264
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:46,375
we're only living together
for, like, I mean, how long?
1265
00:52:46,458 --> 00:52:47,833
And then he moves out.
1266
00:52:47,958 --> 00:52:50,667
So how am I supposed to even--
1267
00:52:50,708 --> 00:52:53,000
I was alone more than I was
with Cameron in this process.
1268
00:52:53,125 --> 00:52:54,500
- We lived together
for four weeks,
1269
00:52:54,583 --> 00:52:56,167
just to throw that out there.
1270
00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:57,708
- And then after that, it was--
OK.
1271
00:52:57,792 --> 00:53:00,000
- Yeah, and then after that,
I was in hospital.
1272
00:53:00,042 --> 00:53:01,333
- Yeah.
- But here's my question.
1273
00:53:01,458 --> 00:53:03,000
- So in that four weeks,
there was, I feel like,
1274
00:53:03,083 --> 00:53:04,292
a lot of growth that we did.
1275
00:53:04,375 --> 00:53:06,000
And I was seeing beyond that.
1276
00:53:06,042 --> 00:53:07,167
And some of my guards
were coming down.
1277
00:53:07,208 --> 00:53:09,333
- But now, it--
1278
00:53:09,375 --> 00:53:11,708
by that point, it was
becoming too late for me.
1279
00:53:11,833 --> 00:53:13,583
- Yeah.
- Right.
1280
00:53:13,708 --> 00:53:16,833
♪
1281
00:53:16,917 --> 00:53:20,167
- I mean, I definitely
feel that our marriage
1282
00:53:20,208 --> 00:53:22,500
has had a lot of challenges.
1283
00:53:22,583 --> 00:53:24,042
- Right.
1284
00:53:24,125 --> 00:53:25,708
- I mean, when I think
of the whole experience
1285
00:53:25,792 --> 00:53:29,167
of our marriage,
like, to me, I felt like
1286
00:53:29,250 --> 00:53:30,958
even though we had
our differences--
1287
00:53:31,042 --> 00:53:32,667
- Yeah.
1288
00:53:32,708 --> 00:53:35,750
- I really felt like I built,
like, a sense of, like,
1289
00:53:35,875 --> 00:53:37,667
camaraderie with you.
1290
00:53:37,708 --> 00:53:39,708
Like, I really--like,
I think we've used the word,
1291
00:53:39,792 --> 00:53:41,500
like, "teammate."
1292
00:53:41,625 --> 00:53:44,708
Like, I really--as much
as we struggled,
1293
00:53:44,875 --> 00:53:48,125
I feel like we still showed up.
1294
00:53:48,208 --> 00:53:49,250
- Yeah.
Yeah.
1295
00:53:49,333 --> 00:53:50,917
- You know?
1296
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,750
And every time we showed up,
1297
00:53:52,833 --> 00:53:55,083
or most of the times
we showed up, it wasn't easy.
1298
00:53:55,167 --> 00:53:56,667
- Right.
- But we did show up.
1299
00:53:56,750 --> 00:54:00,083
And I think that was
showing something
1300
00:54:00,208 --> 00:54:01,667
that was quite important.
1301
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:03,500
- Yeah.
1302
00:54:03,542 --> 00:54:04,917
- You know, it's
kind of interesting
1303
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,333
because you both are--
1304
00:54:06,417 --> 00:54:08,500
seem to be very
compassionate,
1305
00:54:08,542 --> 00:54:10,042
very understanding
of each other.
1306
00:54:10,125 --> 00:54:13,250
You give each other
so much grace.
1307
00:54:13,333 --> 00:54:18,083
And you're so dedicated
to not casting your spouse
1308
00:54:18,167 --> 00:54:19,500
in a negative light.
1309
00:54:19,625 --> 00:54:22,292
And it just seems...
[exhales]
1310
00:54:22,375 --> 00:54:26,375
Just unfortunate that,
you know, you were these ships
1311
00:54:26,458 --> 00:54:31,333
crossing in the night
that never managed to connect,
1312
00:54:31,375 --> 00:54:33,458
you know, which is
an unfortunate thing
1313
00:54:33,542 --> 00:54:37,167
because had that
been mediated--
1314
00:54:37,208 --> 00:54:38,875
- Yeah.
1315
00:54:38,958 --> 00:54:42,167
- There could have been some
serious compatibility here.
1316
00:54:42,208 --> 00:54:44,583
- Yeah.
1317
00:54:44,667 --> 00:54:48,083
- I'm not sure why we miss
each other so much.
1318
00:54:48,208 --> 00:54:49,667
- Yeah.
1319
00:54:49,708 --> 00:54:51,708
- I want to take my
share of that blame.
1320
00:54:51,833 --> 00:54:54,542
And is that because I--
1321
00:54:54,667 --> 00:54:57,500
I'm not communicating
clearly enough
1322
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:03,458
that you're just hearing
what I'm not intending?
1323
00:55:03,542 --> 00:55:06,708
Or am I communicating
so poorly,
1324
00:55:06,833 --> 00:55:09,500
I'm not remembering what
I'm communicating?
1325
00:55:09,542 --> 00:55:13,250
Wherever that blame lies, I'm a
part of that, absolutely, yes.
1326
00:55:13,375 --> 00:55:15,000
- I mean, it takes two.
1327
00:55:15,083 --> 00:55:17,000
And I think ultimately the
reason that was happening
1328
00:55:17,083 --> 00:55:19,333
is because I was,
I'll be honest,
1329
00:55:19,458 --> 00:55:22,542
confused at many points
of this journey.
1330
00:55:22,625 --> 00:55:25,000
I was very unaware
of my feelings.
1331
00:55:25,042 --> 00:55:27,333
And I think, you know,
like, as a therapist,
1332
00:55:27,458 --> 00:55:29,000
people expect you to know
your feelings all the time.
1333
00:55:29,042 --> 00:55:30,417
And it's like--
- Mm-hmm.
1334
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:32,208
- [whispering] Yeah.
- Let me be real.
1335
00:55:32,333 --> 00:55:33,333
Like, I don't know at all
what I'm experiencing.
1336
00:55:33,417 --> 00:55:35,083
And it felt very scary to me.
1337
00:55:35,208 --> 00:55:37,542
I was like, this is not
a good place for me to be in.
1338
00:55:37,625 --> 00:55:39,667
And I'm sorry.
[sniffles]
1339
00:55:39,792 --> 00:55:42,167
- You're a therapist,
but you're still human, Clare.
1340
00:55:42,250 --> 00:55:43,667
- [tearfully] Right.
1341
00:55:43,792 --> 00:55:45,208
And I'm sorry that I took you
on that journey of, like,
1342
00:55:45,292 --> 00:55:47,292
where in the hell
is she right now?
1343
00:55:47,292 --> 00:55:50,333
[crying] And, like,
1344
00:55:50,375 --> 00:55:51,833
that didn't feel good
for me either.
1345
00:55:51,917 --> 00:55:55,083
And I knew that
that was hurting you.
1346
00:55:55,167 --> 00:55:56,167
And I'm sorry for that.
1347
00:55:56,292 --> 00:55:58,583
Like, I was all over the place.
1348
00:55:58,667 --> 00:56:01,042
[crying]
1349
00:56:01,125 --> 00:56:02,500
So I'm sorry that I hurt you.
1350
00:56:02,625 --> 00:56:06,500
I definitely felt that
in the moment, too.
1351
00:56:06,542 --> 00:56:07,708
- I accept your apology, OK?
1352
00:56:07,792 --> 00:56:10,208
- Thank you.
1353
00:56:10,292 --> 00:56:14,958
- I am sorry that I, you know--
1354
00:56:15,042 --> 00:56:17,708
I'm gonna say it plainly.
I [bleep] up the process.
1355
00:56:17,792 --> 00:56:21,542
Like, I...
1356
00:56:21,542 --> 00:56:24,042
through maybe wanting
to take control,
1357
00:56:24,125 --> 00:56:29,083
through wanting to
maybe, you know,
1358
00:56:29,167 --> 00:56:31,833
try and defend myself
against what
1359
00:56:31,875 --> 00:56:34,292
I thought was an impending
rejection, you know--
1360
00:56:34,375 --> 00:56:36,625
like, I can't tell you
the exact reason.
1361
00:56:36,708 --> 00:56:39,625
I obviously felt
a reason to do it.
1362
00:56:39,708 --> 00:56:41,958
And I'm sorry for that.
1363
00:56:41,958 --> 00:56:44,250
- I appreciate that.
It means a lot.
1364
00:56:44,333 --> 00:56:45,958
- Wow.
- I forgive you.
1365
00:56:45,958 --> 00:56:47,583
- Thank you.
1366
00:56:47,667 --> 00:56:50,500
- That's--that's
all we ask for.
1367
00:56:50,542 --> 00:56:52,125
That's beautiful, actually.
1368
00:56:52,208 --> 00:56:53,500
- Mm-hmm.
1369
00:56:53,583 --> 00:56:55,417
- And we've opened up
a door here.
1370
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:57,167
- Mm-hmm.
1371
00:56:57,208 --> 00:56:59,417
- But we're here
for Decision Day.
1372
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:02,000
- Mm-hmm.
- And the time has come--
1373
00:57:02,125 --> 00:57:03,333
[intense music]
1374
00:57:03,417 --> 00:57:06,167
- For you to decide
1375
00:57:06,208 --> 00:57:09,292
whether to remain separated
and get a divorce...
1376
00:57:09,375 --> 00:57:12,208
♪
1377
00:57:12,208 --> 00:57:16,417
Or get to know each other
after the documentation
1378
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:20,583
and maybe reset to
give it another shot.
1379
00:57:20,708 --> 00:57:22,500
♪
1380
00:57:22,583 --> 00:57:25,167
- I--
[clears throat]
1381
00:57:25,208 --> 00:57:28,500
♪
1382
00:57:32,208 --> 00:57:33,542
♪
1383
00:57:33,542 --> 00:57:35,792
- Um--
[clears throat]
1384
00:57:35,875 --> 00:57:37,500
♪
1385
00:57:37,583 --> 00:57:41,708
I--I'm really proud of us.
1386
00:57:41,792 --> 00:57:46,750
Getting to know you
has taught me so much
1387
00:57:46,833 --> 00:57:51,750
about what is important
in relationships,
1388
00:57:51,875 --> 00:57:54,667
what is important when
it comes to attraction.
1389
00:57:54,708 --> 00:58:00,000
And I can look at the
other side of the coin.
1390
00:58:00,083 --> 00:58:02,500
- Mm-hmm.
1391
00:58:02,542 --> 00:58:05,000
- I'm just gonna say it
very simply.
1392
00:58:05,083 --> 00:58:10,167
Whatever attraction I had for
you is gone in that capacity.
1393
00:58:10,292 --> 00:58:13,875
And when I look at you, like--
1394
00:58:13,958 --> 00:58:15,833
and please don't
take offense to this.
1395
00:58:15,917 --> 00:58:17,542
But, like,
I see a family member.
1396
00:58:17,625 --> 00:58:19,208
I see a--I see a sister.
1397
00:58:19,292 --> 00:58:22,125
I see someone that I have
an amazing bond with,
1398
00:58:22,208 --> 00:58:24,000
someone I care about deeply.
1399
00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:29,167
And for me, for that reason,
I can't stay married to you.
1400
00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:31,625
And I would want a divorce.
1401
00:58:31,708 --> 00:58:34,000
- Mm-hmm.
- [softly] OK.
1402
00:58:34,042 --> 00:58:35,667
♪
1403
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:37,333
[sighs]
1404
00:58:37,417 --> 00:58:40,542
♪
1405
00:58:40,625 --> 00:58:45,167
- Cameron, you have
been amazing to me
1406
00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:47,250
during this process.
1407
00:58:47,333 --> 00:58:52,125
I think I'm so grateful
for what you've given me,
1408
00:58:52,208 --> 00:58:56,083
which is I literally
couldn't imagine doing this
1409
00:58:56,167 --> 00:58:58,333
with anyone else, truly.
1410
00:58:58,417 --> 00:59:00,875
I learned a lot about myself.
1411
00:59:00,958 --> 00:59:06,708
I learned a lot about growing
and what that looks like.
1412
00:59:06,792 --> 00:59:09,458
And there were so many
beautiful parts
1413
00:59:09,542 --> 00:59:11,792
of our marriage.
1414
00:59:11,917 --> 00:59:14,542
However, you know,
I want a love
1415
00:59:14,667 --> 00:59:17,417
where I can just
express my feelings
1416
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:19,708
and not have to explain myself.
1417
00:59:19,875 --> 00:59:21,542
But all that to say,
I respect you so much.
1418
00:59:21,667 --> 00:59:24,667
I care about you so deeply.
1419
00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:27,792
But I would like
to get a divorce.
1420
00:59:27,875 --> 00:59:31,500
♪
1421
00:59:31,583 --> 00:59:34,417
- OK.
[exhales]
1422
00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:39,250
- Well, it's...
1423
00:59:39,333 --> 00:59:42,167
it's impressive to see you both
take accountability
1424
00:59:42,292 --> 00:59:43,917
for what went wrong.
1425
00:59:44,042 --> 00:59:46,250
It's impressive to see
the growth that each of you
1426
00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:50,125
recognizes and the gifts that
you've given each other.
1427
00:59:50,208 --> 00:59:53,792
I do feel a lot of friendship
and admiration between you
1428
00:59:53,875 --> 00:59:56,167
and hope that bond goes on.
1429
00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:58,333
And we wish you both very well.
1430
00:59:58,375 --> 01:00:00,125
- Thank you.
- I certainly do.
1431
01:00:00,208 --> 01:00:03,542
I know my colleagues are
feeling touched by the kinds
1432
01:00:03,625 --> 01:00:05,833
of self-recognition
and conversations
1433
01:00:05,917 --> 01:00:07,458
you've just had
with each other.
1434
01:00:07,542 --> 01:00:09,167
And thank you for that,
for your honesty
1435
01:00:09,208 --> 01:00:10,583
and for your feelings.
1436
01:00:10,667 --> 01:00:12,125
- Thank you so much--
1437
01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:13,833
- Thank you.
1438
01:00:13,917 --> 01:00:15,542
- For your time and
everything you've done for us.
1439
01:00:15,667 --> 01:00:17,792
I'm sorry we didn't
take more advantage.
1440
01:00:17,875 --> 01:00:21,083
Now that I'm getting
a divorce, it feels strange.
1441
01:00:21,208 --> 01:00:24,500
Like, the word "divorce,"
I still--it's--
1442
01:00:24,583 --> 01:00:27,125
I'm having a hard time
applying it to myself.
1443
01:00:27,208 --> 01:00:29,792
And I think that
will just take time
1444
01:00:29,875 --> 01:00:33,708
to really be able to identify
myself as a divorced woman.
1445
01:00:33,792 --> 01:00:36,917
But at the same time,
I feel powerful in the way
1446
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,750
that I am standing up
for the things that I need
1447
01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:42,042
and the things that are
really important to me.
1448
01:00:42,125 --> 01:00:43,667
- Take care of yourself.
- Yeah, well, thank you.
1449
01:00:43,708 --> 01:00:44,708
- I mean, all around.
- Thank you.
1450
01:00:44,792 --> 01:00:45,833
- Yes.
- Thank you.
1451
01:00:45,917 --> 01:00:47,125
- OK.
- I appreciate it.
1452
01:00:47,208 --> 01:00:48,458
Thank you.
- OK.
1453
01:00:48,542 --> 01:00:49,500
- Getting married
at first sight
1454
01:00:49,542 --> 01:00:51,833
is a very unique experience.
1455
01:00:51,958 --> 01:00:56,000
And, you know, playing the
blame game is not useful
1456
01:00:56,083 --> 01:00:59,250
because you just can't know...
[chuckles]
1457
01:00:59,333 --> 01:01:01,083
How this is going to happen.
1458
01:01:01,208 --> 01:01:04,375
And I'm just really glad
that Clare and I are leaving
1459
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:06,542
on relatively good terms.
1460
01:01:06,625 --> 01:01:10,208
And I think that just
speaks to our maturity
1461
01:01:10,292 --> 01:01:16,333
and the chances of success
in our future marriages.
1462
01:01:16,417 --> 01:01:21,292
- ♪ Too much for us to
face the storm together ♪
1463
01:01:21,375 --> 01:01:25,250
♪
1464
01:01:25,375 --> 01:01:28,083
[upbeat music]
1465
01:01:28,208 --> 01:01:33,417
♪
1466
01:01:33,542 --> 01:01:35,667
- I don't even know
where to begin.
1467
01:01:35,708 --> 01:01:38,500
All I thought
Austin and I wanted
1468
01:01:38,583 --> 01:01:40,667
was to be done
with the cameras,
1469
01:01:40,708 --> 01:01:42,250
to be done with production.
1470
01:01:42,333 --> 01:01:45,792
And I am at home,
and the girls are out.
1471
01:01:45,875 --> 01:01:47,667
Clare and Emily are out.
1472
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:52,250
And I just got
a text from Clare
1473
01:01:52,333 --> 01:01:55,208
and said that they just
saw Austin and Brennan out
1474
01:01:55,292 --> 01:01:58,000
with Austin and I's producer,
which is funny
1475
01:01:58,083 --> 01:02:01,000
because he's so worried
about optics.
1476
01:02:01,042 --> 01:02:03,667
And I don't think he
understands that the optics
1477
01:02:03,708 --> 01:02:05,833
do not look good for him.
1478
01:02:05,875 --> 01:02:10,250
And to have it by choice, by
Austin's choice at this point,
1479
01:02:10,375 --> 01:02:11,917
is hurtful.
1480
01:02:12,042 --> 01:02:13,958
And I don't really know
where to go from here.
1481
01:02:14,042 --> 01:02:16,875
So...
1482
01:02:16,958 --> 01:02:21,167
we have a get-together with
everyone tomorrow, and...
1483
01:02:21,250 --> 01:02:23,125
♪
1484
01:02:23,208 --> 01:02:23,958
Oh, my God.
1485
01:02:27,792 --> 01:02:29,083
[energetic rock music]
1486
01:02:29,083 --> 01:02:31,958
♪
1487
01:02:32,042 --> 01:02:34,083
- Ah, first to the party.
1488
01:02:34,167 --> 01:02:35,708
Let's go.
1489
01:02:35,792 --> 01:02:38,333
I'm excited to see
everyone today.
1490
01:02:38,458 --> 01:02:41,750
You know, Decision Day
is done and over with.
1491
01:02:41,833 --> 01:02:44,000
Hopefully, we all have,
like, the closure
1492
01:02:44,083 --> 01:02:47,583
we need and, like, are all OK
with, like, the outcome of it.
1493
01:02:47,667 --> 01:02:49,333
Hey.
How you doing?
1494
01:02:49,417 --> 01:02:51,167
- Doing well.
1495
01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:53,417
- You know, I think Becca
and I are in a good spot.
1496
01:02:53,542 --> 01:02:57,958
And I'm hoping this is the
point in which we're like,
1497
01:02:57,958 --> 01:02:59,583
we know what we want.
1498
01:02:59,708 --> 01:03:00,792
We know what we need.
1499
01:03:00,875 --> 01:03:03,333
We know where we're going.
1500
01:03:03,375 --> 01:03:06,000
And we're kind of, like,
riding off into the sunset.
1501
01:03:06,083 --> 01:03:09,333
We're missing--where's Becca?
1502
01:03:09,375 --> 01:03:10,333
- There she is.
1503
01:03:10,458 --> 01:03:12,000
- Look at all you guys.
1504
01:03:12,125 --> 01:03:13,500
- Hi.
1505
01:03:13,583 --> 01:03:14,833
[pop music]
1506
01:03:14,875 --> 01:03:16,375
- Oh.
- Hi.
1507
01:03:16,458 --> 01:03:17,667
- Oh, hey.
1508
01:03:17,708 --> 01:03:19,500
- Aw, look it.
1509
01:03:19,542 --> 01:03:21,500
- I'm a little nervous,
actually, to hear about
1510
01:03:21,542 --> 01:03:23,292
how everyone's
Decision Day went.
1511
01:03:23,375 --> 01:03:26,417
Like, I'm pretty certain that
outside of Becca and Austin,
1512
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:29,458
everyone just reaffirmed that
they're getting a divorce.
1513
01:03:29,542 --> 01:03:33,667
So really, for me, it's
really just comes down to,
1514
01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:36,333
are Becca and Austin
staying married?
1515
01:03:36,417 --> 01:03:38,667
- So how was everyone's day?
1516
01:03:38,792 --> 01:03:40,208
- Good.
- Today was a good day.
1517
01:03:40,333 --> 01:03:41,833
- Yeah.
- I know.
1518
01:03:41,875 --> 01:03:44,125
- What did you guys
do last night?
1519
01:03:44,208 --> 01:03:46,167
- We got dinner,
some good Italian.
1520
01:03:46,208 --> 01:03:47,750
- Nice.
- Yeah, we got dinner.
1521
01:03:47,875 --> 01:03:50,167
- And then we went to the bar.
1522
01:03:50,208 --> 01:03:51,542
- Had some fun.
1523
01:03:51,625 --> 01:03:53,542
- Austin, did you
go out last night?
1524
01:03:53,625 --> 01:03:55,167
Yeah?
1525
01:03:55,208 --> 01:03:57,667
- Yeah.
1526
01:03:57,792 --> 01:03:58,750
It was fun.
- Yeah.
1527
01:03:58,875 --> 01:04:00,042
- Yeah.
1528
01:04:00,125 --> 01:04:02,167
- Did you go out
with anybody else?
1529
01:04:02,250 --> 01:04:03,708
- Just like, yeah,
a whole group.
1530
01:04:03,792 --> 01:04:05,375
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1531
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:08,833
- Any producers there?
1532
01:04:08,875 --> 01:04:10,458
- No.
[intense music]
1533
01:04:10,542 --> 01:04:11,667
- No?
1534
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:13,167
- I don't know.
1535
01:04:13,250 --> 01:04:15,500
♪
1536
01:04:15,583 --> 01:04:17,250
- Do you remember?
1537
01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:21,667
- [chuckles] Are you mad at me
for some reason?
1538
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:23,167
- Did you come into
this experience
1539
01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:24,458
for a friendship
with a producer
1540
01:04:24,583 --> 01:04:25,667
or for a marriage with me?
1541
01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:27,917
- Oh, wow, OK.
1542
01:04:27,917 --> 01:04:32,042
Definitely came in to it
for a marriage with you.
1543
01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:33,958
♪
1544
01:04:34,042 --> 01:04:36,417
- And so you thought that
going out with a producer
1545
01:04:36,542 --> 01:04:37,708
the night after Decision Day--
1546
01:04:37,792 --> 01:04:38,750
- I didn't go out
with a producer.
1547
01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:40,250
- No?
- No, I did not.
1548
01:04:40,333 --> 01:04:41,750
- So who were you out with?
- OK.
1549
01:04:41,833 --> 01:04:43,333
I'm sorry.
Hold on.
1550
01:04:43,375 --> 01:04:44,708
- You can't just sit there
and lie like that.
1551
01:04:44,792 --> 01:04:45,833
- This is where I chime in.
1552
01:04:45,875 --> 01:04:47,958
That's not factual at all.
1553
01:04:48,042 --> 01:04:49,750
- I--
- Let's just be honest.
1554
01:04:49,875 --> 01:04:51,125
- Just be honest.
Let's just be honest.
1555
01:04:51,208 --> 01:04:53,208
- We all ran into
each other last night.
1556
01:04:53,292 --> 01:04:54,833
- And then, what,
you just, like,
1557
01:04:54,917 --> 01:04:57,500
saw her for a little bit
and then left?
1558
01:04:57,542 --> 01:04:58,833
- I don't know, Becca.
1559
01:04:58,875 --> 01:05:00,250
- You do know.
1560
01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:02,000
- You're putting me
in a tough position.
1561
01:05:02,083 --> 01:05:03,542
- Oh, I'm putting you
in a tough position?
1562
01:05:03,667 --> 01:05:05,458
I'm not the one in a tough
position when literally
1563
01:05:05,542 --> 01:05:08,875
yesterday I said that
a large reason why I was saying
1564
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,000
maybe no to our marriage
was because I cannot tell
1565
01:05:11,083 --> 01:05:12,833
what is reality
and what is fake with you.
1566
01:05:12,875 --> 01:05:14,167
- Nothing is fake with me.
1567
01:05:14,292 --> 01:05:16,083
- So then why haven't you
been honest with me?
1568
01:05:16,208 --> 01:05:17,542
- When have I ever
said anything
1569
01:05:17,625 --> 01:05:19,917
defamatory or, like, bad,
1570
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,042
or anything that would
insult you in any way?
1571
01:05:23,125 --> 01:05:24,417
- What about the dignity--
- I always have your back.
1572
01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:25,917
- Of our marriage?
1573
01:05:26,042 --> 01:05:27,250
What about,
literally, you and I,
1574
01:05:27,375 --> 01:05:28,833
the sanctity of our
marriage and honesty?
1575
01:05:28,958 --> 01:05:31,208
- What does that have
to do with a producer?
1576
01:05:31,292 --> 01:05:33,833
- Because that has been
the rift in our relationship,
1577
01:05:33,917 --> 01:05:35,792
on top of religion,
on top of intimacy,
1578
01:05:35,875 --> 01:05:36,917
on top of everything else.
1579
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,208
And I made that clear to you.
1580
01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:40,167
And you decided that
the path forward
1581
01:05:40,250 --> 01:05:42,333
and the path to healing was
to go spend time with her.
1582
01:05:42,375 --> 01:05:44,333
- I told you, ran into them.
Just happened.
1583
01:05:44,375 --> 01:05:45,750
- You didn't run
into them, Austin.
1584
01:05:45,833 --> 01:05:49,167
I'm not a [bleep] dumb bitch.
1585
01:05:49,208 --> 01:05:50,500
Did you think when
you were out--
1586
01:05:50,583 --> 01:05:52,042
- Why?
1587
01:05:52,125 --> 01:05:54,167
- Did you think about
how it would impact me?
1588
01:05:54,250 --> 01:05:57,750
- [sighs] I didn't think that
it would be a problem.
1589
01:05:57,833 --> 01:05:59,833
- Then that is--
that says everything.
1590
01:05:59,875 --> 01:06:01,417
- That is the problem.
That is the problem.
1591
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:02,667
- By the way, I've been
calm, cool, and collected
1592
01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:04,292
this entire [bleep] season.
1593
01:06:04,375 --> 01:06:06,500
So the fact that I'm riled up
is really saying something.
1594
01:06:06,583 --> 01:06:08,042
I feel like--
1595
01:06:08,125 --> 01:06:09,167
- [softly]
That's not even true.
1596
01:06:09,250 --> 01:06:10,500
- That's not true?
- It's not true.
1597
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:12,000
- OK.
1598
01:06:12,083 --> 01:06:13,667
- Becca, you have
admitted to being
1599
01:06:13,792 --> 01:06:15,333
a very sensitive and
emotional person.
1600
01:06:15,375 --> 01:06:17,292
This--
- But that's not a bad thing.
1601
01:06:17,375 --> 01:06:19,542
[overlapping arguing]
- Whoa, I'm not saying it's--
1602
01:06:19,667 --> 01:06:21,917
- Hold on, hold on, hold on.
1603
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,792
- Maybe you should
be more sensitive.
1604
01:06:23,875 --> 01:06:25,208
- I'm trying.
1605
01:06:25,333 --> 01:06:26,875
But that doesn't mean
you have been
1606
01:06:26,958 --> 01:06:28,292
calm, cool, and collected.
1607
01:06:28,375 --> 01:06:29,833
Every time there
is an argument,
1608
01:06:29,917 --> 01:06:32,167
you go to this
fight-or-flight mode.
1609
01:06:32,250 --> 01:06:34,250
- Do you know what's funny
about that is that in therapy
1610
01:06:34,333 --> 01:06:36,375
I've realized that my
fight or flight is triggered
1611
01:06:36,458 --> 01:06:38,458
when I'm not in
a secure, safe space.
1612
01:06:38,542 --> 01:06:39,958
- Exactly.
1613
01:06:40,042 --> 01:06:41,167
- And what I figured out
is that my secure,
1614
01:06:41,250 --> 01:06:42,917
safe space is not with you.
1615
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,667
[intense music]
1616
01:06:44,750 --> 01:06:46,625
Because of so many trust issues
and last night--the fact that
1617
01:06:46,708 --> 01:06:48,667
you even were lying about it
right here with me right now,
1618
01:06:48,750 --> 01:06:50,125
and you are continuing to lie
1619
01:06:50,208 --> 01:06:51,958
about different aspects of it,
tell me that I was--
1620
01:06:52,042 --> 01:06:53,625
my intuition was correct.
1621
01:06:53,708 --> 01:06:55,250
You have always been
more concerned about optics
1622
01:06:55,375 --> 01:06:58,458
than our marriage.
- That's not true.
1623
01:06:58,542 --> 01:07:00,167
- All of the men here
have been more concerned--
1624
01:07:00,250 --> 01:07:01,250
sorry, Michael,
I don't know about you.
1625
01:07:01,333 --> 01:07:02,333
- That's all right.
That's all right.
1626
01:07:02,417 --> 01:07:03,417
- Everyone care about
how they come off
1627
01:07:03,542 --> 01:07:05,083
when they are on camera.
1628
01:07:05,208 --> 01:07:06,417
- And the one thing that was
missing from our relationship,
1629
01:07:06,542 --> 01:07:08,417
and why I was going to say no
on Decision Day,
1630
01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:09,958
was because of trust,
because I couldn't trust
1631
01:07:09,958 --> 01:07:11,667
the authenticity between us.
1632
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:13,875
And this has now officially
shot it to hell.
1633
01:07:13,958 --> 01:07:16,375
♪
1634
01:07:20,292 --> 01:07:22,667
- My priority was misplaced.
1635
01:07:22,708 --> 01:07:25,667
And it wasn't, like,
an intentional thing. But--
1636
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:27,000
- And that has been a pattern
in our relationship,
1637
01:07:27,167 --> 01:07:28,250
where I am not the priority.
1638
01:07:28,333 --> 01:07:31,167
- OK.
- Your own being,
1639
01:07:31,208 --> 01:07:33,292
whoever you are,
is the priority.
1640
01:07:33,375 --> 01:07:34,708
And here's the thing.
1641
01:07:34,833 --> 01:07:36,375
I never want you to lose that.
1642
01:07:36,458 --> 01:07:39,625
Like, I think that you will
find someone who truly is
1643
01:07:39,708 --> 01:07:41,333
even more independent than me,
1644
01:07:41,375 --> 01:07:42,917
which I didn't even
know existed,
1645
01:07:43,042 --> 01:07:45,542
not as emotional,
not as sensitive.
1646
01:07:45,625 --> 01:07:46,875
I am all of those things,
1647
01:07:46,958 --> 01:07:48,167
and that has not worked
in your favor.
1648
01:07:48,167 --> 01:07:50,208
But, like, at this point now,
I have given you
1649
01:07:50,292 --> 01:07:52,250
so many chances
to make me the priority.
1650
01:07:52,333 --> 01:07:54,583
And time and time again,
I am not.
1651
01:07:54,708 --> 01:07:55,958
♪
1652
01:07:56,042 --> 01:07:57,500
- So what are you saying,
Becca?
1653
01:07:57,583 --> 01:08:02,333
♪
1654
01:08:02,375 --> 01:08:03,833
- I'm saying a lot
of heated things
1655
01:08:03,917 --> 01:08:06,708
because I'm really angry.
1656
01:08:06,833 --> 01:08:09,333
It's been really hard to, like,
sparse reality from fiction.
1657
01:08:09,458 --> 01:08:12,167
And all I wanted in
Austin was, like,
1658
01:08:12,250 --> 01:08:14,167
that one person who
will be true with you
1659
01:08:14,208 --> 01:08:15,417
throughout all of this.
1660
01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:17,500
And that's not
what I've gotten.
1661
01:08:17,542 --> 01:08:19,458
[gentle music]
1662
01:08:19,458 --> 01:08:22,292
- I have--
1663
01:08:22,292 --> 01:08:24,250
I'm not saying I have
successfully done so.
1664
01:08:24,333 --> 01:08:27,792
But I have really tried
to be that person
1665
01:08:27,875 --> 01:08:30,167
for you in every capacity.
1666
01:08:30,208 --> 01:08:32,125
And it hurts.
1667
01:08:32,125 --> 01:08:33,667
It sucks to hear you
say that,
1668
01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:36,250
like, I haven't been that
person because I thought
1669
01:08:36,333 --> 01:08:37,833
I was doing a good job.
1670
01:08:37,958 --> 01:08:40,083
And I thought the things
that I was struggling with,
1671
01:08:40,167 --> 01:08:41,333
I was improving on.
1672
01:08:41,417 --> 01:08:45,667
But you don't feel that way.
1673
01:08:45,750 --> 01:08:50,000
And I don't know what to do.
1674
01:08:50,042 --> 01:08:53,583
♪
1675
01:08:53,667 --> 01:08:57,125
Our relationship has gone
to an unhealthy place.
1676
01:08:57,208 --> 01:08:59,667
And I don't know if it can be--
1677
01:08:59,708 --> 01:09:02,583
I don't know.
Like, I don't know what to do.
1678
01:09:02,667 --> 01:09:04,375
- What I heard you
just say is that you
1679
01:09:04,458 --> 01:09:06,917
no longer think we should try
working on this because--
1680
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,417
- I don't--no, I said, I don't
know if we can get over this.
1681
01:09:10,542 --> 01:09:12,625
I don't know if we
can get through it.
1682
01:09:12,708 --> 01:09:15,375
♪
1683
01:09:17,375 --> 01:09:19,875
- I think, Becca, this is
an important time for you
1684
01:09:19,958 --> 01:09:21,917
because I feel like you
went in very maybe strong
1685
01:09:22,042 --> 01:09:23,417
on how you felt, so do you--
- You did.
1686
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:26,167
- Feel like
after today, like,
1687
01:09:26,208 --> 01:09:28,042
does it feel like the
right time to, like,
1688
01:09:28,125 --> 01:09:33,167
take your voice, to change your
decision after how today went?
1689
01:09:33,208 --> 01:09:34,625
Or do you feel--
still feel the same?
1690
01:09:34,708 --> 01:09:37,458
- I feel more
confused than ever.
1691
01:09:37,542 --> 01:09:42,083
If I was concerned about
the trust between us before,
1692
01:09:42,208 --> 01:09:44,042
I'm more concerned
about it now.
1693
01:09:44,125 --> 01:09:46,000
- And I will say,
I don't want to interfere
1694
01:09:46,042 --> 01:09:47,542
with what's going on here.
1695
01:09:47,667 --> 01:09:49,917
But I do feel like there is
this theme of being silenced.
1696
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,042
Like, there are many moments
in our marriages where, like,
1697
01:09:53,167 --> 01:09:54,958
at different times,
we were silenced.
1698
01:09:55,042 --> 01:09:57,917
So for example, like, with
the Brennan and Emily stuff,
1699
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,583
when I brought that up,
1700
01:09:59,667 --> 01:10:01,667
I felt like you were mad at me
for speaking up.
1701
01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:03,958
And I felt like--
[overlapping speech]
1702
01:10:04,042 --> 01:10:05,542
And I'm not gonna stay silent
about things that I--
1703
01:10:05,625 --> 01:10:07,667
I am--are hurting
other people.
1704
01:10:07,708 --> 01:10:09,833
- I would like to address the
topic of you being silenced,
1705
01:10:09,917 --> 01:10:12,125
Clare, that you just said.
1706
01:10:12,208 --> 01:10:15,875
In our marriage, who was
the one being silenced?
1707
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,083
[intense music]
1708
01:10:17,167 --> 01:10:19,125
- What do you mean?
1709
01:10:19,208 --> 01:10:20,542
Who was the one being silenced?
1710
01:10:20,625 --> 01:10:22,333
- Yeah.
- What--what do you mean?
1711
01:10:22,417 --> 01:10:24,417
There are conversations
that we have
1712
01:10:24,417 --> 01:10:26,167
in secrecy that say--
that are not important
1713
01:10:26,250 --> 01:10:27,542
for everybody else to hear.
1714
01:10:27,708 --> 01:10:28,833
That's a different thing
here, though.
1715
01:10:28,875 --> 01:10:30,250
- No, it's not.
1716
01:10:30,375 --> 01:10:31,500
- That wasn't--
it is a different thing.
1717
01:10:31,542 --> 01:10:34,292
- I'm not going to stand
for you saying that
1718
01:10:34,375 --> 01:10:36,792
I silenced you in any way.
1719
01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:38,292
- I think in their--
in this situation--
1720
01:10:38,375 --> 01:10:40,667
- I supported everything
you've ever said.
1721
01:10:40,750 --> 01:10:42,292
- And I agree.
1722
01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:44,333
Up until that point
is when I felt silenced.
1723
01:10:44,417 --> 01:10:46,417
And I'm just telling you
my feelings,
1724
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:48,875
which I feel like you're not
always receptive to hearing.
1725
01:10:48,958 --> 01:10:50,667
And on that comment,
1726
01:10:50,792 --> 01:10:52,917
is there something
you want to say to Emily?
1727
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,250
- I said that I didn't feel
it was appropriate
1728
01:10:56,333 --> 01:10:57,625
to get involved
1729
01:10:57,708 --> 01:11:00,458
in Emily and Brennan's
relationship.
1730
01:11:00,542 --> 01:11:03,083
Now, to clear the air,
1731
01:11:03,167 --> 01:11:06,750
I was the instigator,
not Brennan.
1732
01:11:06,875 --> 01:11:10,625
I was the one that said,
after all this, let's go out.
1733
01:11:10,708 --> 01:11:13,500
Let's have a good time.
Let's go on a double date.
1734
01:11:13,583 --> 01:11:16,500
Let's have--let's enjoy--
- But it wasn't after all this.
1735
01:11:16,583 --> 01:11:17,917
He asked you in the moment.
1736
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,625
And he said, do you want
to go on a double date?
1737
01:11:19,708 --> 01:11:21,167
- That's--
- And that's me twisting?
1738
01:11:21,208 --> 01:11:22,917
That's not true.
- No, no, no, no, no, no.
1739
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:28,125
That is clearly a potential
misunderstanding between who--
1740
01:11:28,208 --> 01:11:29,667
- It's not a misunderstanding.
1741
01:11:29,708 --> 01:11:31,000
- However--it could have
been between me and Brennan.
1742
01:11:31,125 --> 01:11:32,875
- I'm sorry, Cameron.
Every time--
1743
01:11:32,958 --> 01:11:35,333
every time you say something
that really hurts my feelings,
1744
01:11:35,375 --> 01:11:36,583
you just say,
it was a misunderstanding.
1745
01:11:36,708 --> 01:11:37,667
- Let's agree.
1746
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:40,833
On more than 20 occasions,
at least--
1747
01:11:40,875 --> 01:11:42,708
- We have misunderstood
each other, yes.
1748
01:11:42,792 --> 01:11:45,750
- We have come together and
repeated the same conversation
1749
01:11:45,833 --> 01:11:48,333
to each other, in private, on
camera, wherever the [bleep].
1750
01:11:48,375 --> 01:11:49,958
And they're different--and
they're different stories.
1751
01:11:50,042 --> 01:11:52,250
And it's like a genuine
experience between you and me.
1752
01:11:52,333 --> 01:11:54,000
- It is.
That is a genuine experience.
1753
01:11:54,042 --> 01:11:56,375
However, you know that
you are lying right now.
1754
01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:58,125
Our whole experience
doesn't--does not--
1755
01:11:58,125 --> 01:11:59,750
- [scoffs]
1756
01:11:59,875 --> 01:12:02,000
- That is not a indicator
of that conversation.
1757
01:12:02,042 --> 01:12:04,042
- I can never win this.
I'm always the bad guy.
1758
01:12:04,125 --> 01:12:05,333
- That's the same
response he has.
1759
01:12:05,417 --> 01:12:06,875
He can never win.
- That's the same one for him.
1760
01:12:06,958 --> 01:12:08,583
He's tried everything.
- You can never win, OK?
1761
01:12:08,667 --> 01:12:10,000
- So let's--it's
the same thing.
1762
01:12:10,083 --> 01:12:11,208
- Like, I'm literally--
- Please.
1763
01:12:11,292 --> 01:12:12,750
Please stop. Please stop.
1764
01:12:12,833 --> 01:12:14,375
- I've literally lied
every single day
1765
01:12:14,458 --> 01:12:16,167
of this [bleep] marriage
to protect her.
1766
01:12:16,250 --> 01:12:18,333
Do not get on a [bleep]
high horse with me.
1767
01:12:18,375 --> 01:12:19,792
- Oh, really?
1768
01:12:19,875 --> 01:12:21,417
Because it seems like
every male has seemed
1769
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:23,375
to have to protect us,
when you thought
1770
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:26,292
you protected us, you have
hurt us round and round,
1771
01:12:26,375 --> 01:12:28,083
round and round,
and look at where we're at.
1772
01:12:28,167 --> 01:12:29,667
We don't need [bleep]
protecting, OK?
1773
01:12:29,792 --> 01:12:31,333
We don't.
1774
01:12:31,333 --> 01:12:32,417
And so what you think is--
1775
01:12:32,500 --> 01:12:34,667
- I was asked for protection.
1776
01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:37,042
I was asked to give protection.
1777
01:12:37,167 --> 01:12:39,417
- You--we were asked to just--
- To protect the marriage.
1778
01:12:39,542 --> 01:12:41,875
- To protect the marriage,
to protect the marriage.
1779
01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:43,375
- To protect you.
1780
01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:44,875
- Right, and that's what
we did for each other.
1781
01:12:44,958 --> 01:12:47,333
- Are you protecting her
right now by lying?
1782
01:12:47,458 --> 01:12:49,125
- He's not lying.
1783
01:12:49,208 --> 01:12:50,875
- I'm not lying.
I'm not lying right now.
1784
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,708
- OK, I'm gonna let you guys
sit there in bliss and--
1785
01:12:52,833 --> 01:12:53,833
- Like, why can't there
just be a version of this--
1786
01:12:53,917 --> 01:12:55,458
- Because all your
versions are incorrect.
1787
01:12:55,542 --> 01:12:56,917
They've changed that
many times.
1788
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,542
- But why can't we just, like,
agree to disagree and say,
1789
01:12:58,625 --> 01:12:59,292
maybe there was
a miscommunication.
1790
01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:01,000
- Cameron--
1791
01:13:01,042 --> 01:13:02,417
- And we don't put blame on
each other and just, like,
1792
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:03,875
say, OK, it's OK.
1793
01:13:03,958 --> 01:13:05,375
- I wasn't lied to.
1794
01:13:05,458 --> 01:13:06,167
- As opposed to us
just sitting here fighting
1795
01:13:06,292 --> 01:13:07,667
and getting nowhere.
1796
01:13:07,708 --> 01:13:09,167
- Oh, you don't think
we've gotten anywhere?
1797
01:13:09,250 --> 01:13:11,000
- Right now--
- By being heard?
1798
01:13:11,042 --> 01:13:13,500
- No. Whoa, I'm saying, right
now, where as she's saying,
1799
01:13:13,583 --> 01:13:14,958
you're lying,
you're lying, you're lying.
1800
01:13:15,042 --> 01:13:16,667
Is that us getting somewhere?
- Well, you are.
1801
01:13:16,792 --> 01:13:18,417
- Well, because we're not
gonna agree because--
1802
01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:20,000
If you're gonna lie,
you're gonna lie.
1803
01:13:20,042 --> 01:13:21,500
- I mean, I've heard seven
different versions of this.
1804
01:13:21,583 --> 01:13:22,833
So I know it's
just not the truth.
1805
01:13:22,958 --> 01:13:24,083
- And lying seems to be
just a common thread.
1806
01:13:24,208 --> 01:13:26,042
- Yes.
1807
01:13:26,042 --> 01:13:30,208
♪
1808
01:13:30,292 --> 01:13:35,000
- To be accused of
silencing Clare,
1809
01:13:35,083 --> 01:13:39,500
when all of our
off-camera conversations
1810
01:13:39,583 --> 01:13:44,417
are her telling me
what I can and cannot say
1811
01:13:44,542 --> 01:13:48,375
per these secrets
that she has revealed to me
1812
01:13:48,458 --> 01:13:52,333
is so hypocritical.
1813
01:13:52,333 --> 01:13:54,583
And by the way, the fact that
she's not attracted to me,
1814
01:13:54,667 --> 01:13:56,292
that's one of those things
that she told me
1815
01:13:56,375 --> 01:13:57,750
that I couldn't say out loud.
1816
01:13:57,875 --> 01:14:00,167
Nope. Oh, there we go.
I just broke a promise.
1817
01:14:00,167 --> 01:14:03,000
I mean, I literally just
walked away from the group.
1818
01:14:03,042 --> 01:14:05,167
And I'm getting
text messages right now
1819
01:14:05,208 --> 01:14:09,875
of her trying to make sure that
I don't let her secrets out.
1820
01:14:09,875 --> 01:14:11,750
- Did he text you back?
- No.
1821
01:14:11,833 --> 01:14:15,083
- Clare has been
manipulating me from day one.
1822
01:14:15,208 --> 01:14:19,833
And I just--I couldn't take
one more second of Clare
1823
01:14:19,917 --> 01:14:22,750
yet again accusing me
of wrongdoing,
1824
01:14:22,833 --> 01:14:26,000
when, like, if we were in--
1825
01:14:26,125 --> 01:14:28,958
if we were in, like,
the public courts system,
1826
01:14:29,042 --> 01:14:31,417
I'd be in jail for
stealing a candy bar.
1827
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,250
And she'd be in jail
for murder.
1828
01:14:33,375 --> 01:14:36,583
♪
1829
01:14:40,375 --> 01:14:41,958
[slow pop music]
1830
01:14:42,042 --> 01:14:43,208
♪
1831
01:14:43,292 --> 01:14:45,250
- Where is Cameron?
- I don't know.
1832
01:14:45,375 --> 01:14:47,333
I don't--I don't--
I think he left.
1833
01:14:47,417 --> 01:14:49,167
I don't--
1834
01:14:49,208 --> 01:14:50,417
- I imagine...
- Anyway.
1835
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:52,125
- Stress and the heart
probably don't--
1836
01:14:52,208 --> 01:14:53,625
- Yes.
Yeah.
1837
01:14:53,708 --> 01:14:55,250
- Mix well together.
- Yeah, no, yeah.
1838
01:14:55,333 --> 01:14:57,417
- Heart condition.
1839
01:14:57,542 --> 01:14:59,708
- Yeah.
1840
01:14:59,792 --> 01:15:02,667
- Well, all you guys
had your Decision Days.
1841
01:15:02,708 --> 01:15:05,333
So now that that
has concluded, like,
1842
01:15:05,458 --> 01:15:06,792
what's next for you guys?
1843
01:15:06,875 --> 01:15:09,250
- That's the question.
Yeah, what's next?
1844
01:15:09,333 --> 01:15:12,250
- So for me, I'm gonna take
a lot of time to self-reflect
1845
01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:16,750
and, you know, really dig deep
and find the things
1846
01:15:16,833 --> 01:15:21,000
that I need to work on and grow
from and be better off with.
1847
01:15:21,042 --> 01:15:23,000
And I don't know how much time
that's gonna take.
1848
01:15:23,083 --> 01:15:27,167
But it's gonna be
quite the journey.
1849
01:15:27,250 --> 01:15:30,500
So gonna be going on it,
for sure.
1850
01:15:30,583 --> 01:15:33,417
[gentle music]
1851
01:15:33,542 --> 01:15:36,167
- I'm gonna come over here
because I really want to
1852
01:15:36,250 --> 01:15:38,250
make sure you hear me on this.
1853
01:15:38,375 --> 01:15:43,792
♪
1854
01:15:43,875 --> 01:15:45,917
Because of what happened, like,
I know I have accountability.
1855
01:15:46,042 --> 01:15:48,333
And I made mistakes.
I was not perfect through this.
1856
01:15:48,417 --> 01:15:49,667
Like, you also
need to know that.
1857
01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:52,292
And you know that I know that
1858
01:15:52,375 --> 01:15:55,458
because I know how this ended
for us is very, very, very,
1859
01:15:55,542 --> 01:15:57,667
very sad.
1860
01:15:57,708 --> 01:15:59,583
[tearfully]
It's very delicate.
1861
01:15:59,667 --> 01:16:01,958
And it impacts us
both differently.
1862
01:16:02,042 --> 01:16:04,167
But, like, it's gonna hurt us
both a lot.
1863
01:16:04,292 --> 01:16:05,833
- Yeah.
1864
01:16:05,875 --> 01:16:07,208
- And I really want you
to know that, like,
1865
01:16:07,292 --> 01:16:09,208
I know I was
not perfect in this,
1866
01:16:09,292 --> 01:16:11,125
in lot of different ways.
1867
01:16:11,208 --> 01:16:13,208
[sniffles] And I need
you to know that.
1868
01:16:13,292 --> 01:16:14,417
Like, it's not all on you.
1869
01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:16,042
It's really not.
1870
01:16:16,042 --> 01:16:19,000
- I appreciate that.
1871
01:16:19,083 --> 01:16:22,833
And I hope, like,
we can just be civil
1872
01:16:22,958 --> 01:16:26,583
and, like, just appreciate
each other for this.
1873
01:16:26,667 --> 01:16:31,417
It was--there was a lot
of good, a lot of good.
1874
01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:33,583
- And I think we have
a decision to make
1875
01:16:33,708 --> 01:16:36,083
of just how we take
what was pretty traumatic
1876
01:16:36,208 --> 01:16:37,333
and, like, really--
1877
01:16:37,375 --> 01:16:38,500
we have a chance
to, like, really
1878
01:16:38,583 --> 01:16:40,375
be better people from it.
1879
01:16:40,375 --> 01:16:42,750
♪
1880
01:16:42,833 --> 01:16:44,792
- Shall we squash it?
- No.
1881
01:16:44,875 --> 01:16:46,875
Not--
- Come on.
1882
01:16:46,958 --> 01:16:48,208
- This is not squashed.
- OK.
1883
01:16:48,292 --> 01:16:49,750
- This is not squashed.
1884
01:16:49,833 --> 01:16:50,958
- All right.
- That was a great speech.
1885
01:16:51,042 --> 01:16:51,833
- But--
1886
01:16:51,958 --> 01:16:52,958
- All right, that's a start.
1887
01:16:52,958 --> 01:16:54,625
It's a start.
- It's a start.
1888
01:16:54,708 --> 01:16:56,833
- And to piggyback
off of y'all,
1889
01:16:56,958 --> 01:16:59,125
this has been
a beautiful experience.
1890
01:16:59,208 --> 01:17:02,500
And I am looking forward to the
growth that comes after this.
1891
01:17:02,625 --> 01:17:05,917
And I've expressed this
to Orion via text a lot.
1892
01:17:06,042 --> 01:17:07,458
I mean, I think you know
I care about you.
1893
01:17:07,542 --> 01:17:08,583
I wanted to--
- Yeah.
1894
01:17:08,667 --> 01:17:10,083
- Reach out to check on you.
1895
01:17:10,208 --> 01:17:11,875
And I just feel like
we did miss the mark.
1896
01:17:11,958 --> 01:17:13,750
And it could have been
something beautiful.
1897
01:17:13,833 --> 01:17:15,750
And you say
you want a friendship.
1898
01:17:15,833 --> 01:17:17,167
If you want it,
you can have it.
1899
01:17:17,292 --> 01:17:18,458
It's there.
1900
01:17:18,542 --> 01:17:21,750
It's on the table,
as we have said.
1901
01:17:21,875 --> 01:17:23,250
- Has everybody heard that?
1902
01:17:23,375 --> 01:17:24,500
I'm gonna take you up
on that.
1903
01:17:24,583 --> 01:17:27,208
- It's on--it's back
on the table.
1904
01:17:27,292 --> 01:17:31,958
However, you got to pick up
the knife and cut the cake.
1905
01:17:32,042 --> 01:17:33,833
- All right.
- Cut the cake, baby.
1906
01:17:33,917 --> 01:17:36,375
[chuckling]
That's us.
1907
01:17:36,500 --> 01:17:39,125
How is--can I--
can I ask a question?
1908
01:17:39,208 --> 01:17:40,667
- For sure. Fire away.
1909
01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:44,625
- How is the relationship
progressing between you all?
1910
01:17:44,708 --> 01:17:46,208
- You know what?
1911
01:17:46,292 --> 01:17:49,083
We are just--we are just
in a really positive place.
1912
01:17:49,208 --> 01:17:51,708
Like, I feel like
we've really leaned in
1913
01:17:51,708 --> 01:17:55,458
to accepting each other
for exactly who we are.
1914
01:17:55,542 --> 01:18:01,125
And we are excited
to see what's ahead
1915
01:18:01,208 --> 01:18:04,125
and all of the things
that might come with that.
1916
01:18:04,208 --> 01:18:05,708
So--
1917
01:18:05,792 --> 01:18:06,833
- I mean, you just might
as well soak it up now.
1918
01:18:06,917 --> 01:18:09,333
I've said it on--
I've said it before.
1919
01:18:09,417 --> 01:18:11,042
You know, I think I shine.
1920
01:18:11,125 --> 01:18:13,500
But I'm a candle in a sun
compared to her.
1921
01:18:13,625 --> 01:18:15,000
- Aw.
1922
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,042
- I will not back
away from the idea.
1923
01:18:16,125 --> 01:18:18,000
Like, I do believe--
- [chuckles]
1924
01:18:18,042 --> 01:18:21,375
- Honestly, I do believe you're
a much better human than I am
1925
01:18:21,458 --> 01:18:23,833
in terms of what your--
the impact you're gonna make
1926
01:18:23,833 --> 01:18:25,542
on this world versus me,
1927
01:18:25,625 --> 01:18:27,708
you are a much better human
than I am.
1928
01:18:27,833 --> 01:18:30,417
But that's part of
what I celebrate.
1929
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:32,667
You know, I celebrate the fact
that you're a better human.
1930
01:18:32,750 --> 01:18:36,417
You continue to teach me
how to be selfless.
1931
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:39,667
And I will continue to show
my doctorate in selfishness--
1932
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:41,083
- OK.
1933
01:18:41,167 --> 01:18:42,000
- And teach you
how to be selfish.
1934
01:18:42,083 --> 01:18:43,250
- Yeah.
1935
01:18:43,333 --> 01:18:45,042
- God, you guys are
disgustingly cute.
1936
01:18:45,125 --> 01:18:46,500
- I was about to say, like,
you're gonna make me cry again.
1937
01:18:46,542 --> 01:18:49,167
- [chuckles]
- [sighs]
1938
01:18:49,250 --> 01:18:53,500
- It is extremely refreshing to
see your emotional awareness,
1939
01:18:53,583 --> 01:18:56,417
your emotional integrity.
1940
01:18:56,500 --> 01:19:01,583
And I think this process has
1941
01:19:01,667 --> 01:19:05,208
put a spotlight on
a lot of my weak spots
1942
01:19:05,292 --> 01:19:06,958
that I need to work on.
1943
01:19:07,042 --> 01:19:09,458
But it's also made me realize
the way that those weak spots
1944
01:19:09,542 --> 01:19:12,042
can be triggered
in situations
1945
01:19:12,125 --> 01:19:15,208
that aren't filling me
or serving me.
1946
01:19:15,292 --> 01:19:18,458
- Are you looking
to build a bridge?
1947
01:19:18,542 --> 01:19:22,958
- I think that for me...
1948
01:19:23,042 --> 01:19:25,167
♪
1949
01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:30,042
Many issues were built
upon each other.
1950
01:19:30,125 --> 01:19:35,083
And it's now compounding
to a point where, like,
1951
01:19:35,167 --> 01:19:39,167
if I can't trust him, I already
have issues with intimacy.
1952
01:19:39,208 --> 01:19:41,250
We have differences
in religion.
1953
01:19:41,333 --> 01:19:42,958
We have a lot going on.
1954
01:19:43,042 --> 01:19:47,042
And if I now have proof
that he has lied to me...
1955
01:19:47,042 --> 01:19:49,500
♪
1956
01:19:49,583 --> 01:19:50,708
There might be a bridge
in the future.
1957
01:19:50,708 --> 01:19:53,417
But, like, I need to heal
1958
01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:56,833
and learn to trust myself
and my intuition again.
1959
01:19:56,875 --> 01:20:01,750
I think he is going to be
the perfect guy for someone.
1960
01:20:01,833 --> 01:20:03,875
I don't think it's me.
1961
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,833
[Nik Ammar's "Come To An End"]
1962
01:20:07,875 --> 01:20:09,625
- ♪ The fire is out
1963
01:20:09,708 --> 01:20:11,708
♪ It's just a dying ember
1964
01:20:11,792 --> 01:20:15,333
♪ I thought we were
gonna last forever ♪
1965
01:20:15,417 --> 01:20:18,000
♪ Then you said, well,
all good things ♪
1966
01:20:18,083 --> 01:20:21,333
♪ Must come to an end
1967
01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:26,167
- Blindsided--I feel,
yeah, very blindsided.
1968
01:20:26,208 --> 01:20:27,542
- [vocalizing]
1969
01:20:27,625 --> 01:20:29,000
- I--
1970
01:20:29,083 --> 01:20:31,708
♪
1971
01:20:31,833 --> 01:20:33,708
- ♪ Now I see
you were scared ♪
1972
01:20:33,792 --> 01:20:35,833
- I don't know what to do.
1973
01:20:35,875 --> 01:20:37,917
- ♪ Of losing everything
1974
01:20:38,042 --> 01:20:41,833
♪ Our love turned to rust
1975
01:20:41,875 --> 01:20:45,083
♪ Broken hearts to dust
1976
01:20:45,167 --> 01:20:49,250
- [tearfully]
I love Austin as a person,
1977
01:20:49,333 --> 01:20:51,333
as a human who's
walking on this planet.
1978
01:20:51,417 --> 01:20:54,667
I think he makes this
world a better place.
1979
01:20:54,833 --> 01:20:58,583
But I just have to,
like, know when,
1980
01:20:58,708 --> 01:21:00,792
like, I'm not it for him.
1981
01:21:00,875 --> 01:21:03,792
And I feel like
the responsibility
1982
01:21:03,875 --> 01:21:06,958
is on me to see that.
1983
01:21:07,042 --> 01:21:10,667
- ♪ All good things
1984
01:21:10,792 --> 01:21:13,375
♪ All good things
1985
01:21:13,458 --> 01:21:16,667
♪ All good things
must come to an end ♪
1986
01:21:16,750 --> 01:21:19,458
♪
1987
01:21:19,542 --> 01:21:20,875
- ♪ I'ma take you down
1988
01:21:20,958 --> 01:21:23,417
- Next time on
"Married at First Sight"...
1989
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:25,500
- Do you want to be
more than friends?
1990
01:21:25,583 --> 01:21:27,458
- Honestly, I think that
would be a huge benefit--
1991
01:21:27,542 --> 01:21:28,708
- Yeah.
- Regardless.
1992
01:21:28,792 --> 01:21:30,167
- For three of our couples,
1993
01:21:30,250 --> 01:21:32,833
the story continues beyond
Decision Day.
1994
01:21:32,917 --> 01:21:34,667
- How are you feeling
about moving out?
1995
01:21:34,750 --> 01:21:36,000
- Like, I just
don't really know
1996
01:21:36,083 --> 01:21:37,083
what to expect, like,
if I'm gonna, like,
1997
01:21:37,167 --> 01:21:39,167
have a meltdown anytime soon.
1998
01:21:39,250 --> 01:21:41,750
- I really have no intentions
of ever speaking to her again.
1999
01:21:41,833 --> 01:21:43,167
- Oh, [bleep].
2000
01:21:43,292 --> 01:21:45,208
- Do you have any regrets
about the whole thing?
2001
01:21:45,292 --> 01:21:46,875
- Uh...
2002
01:21:46,958 --> 01:21:50,792
- I reached out to Becca,
and that was a mistake.
2003
01:21:50,875 --> 01:21:52,917
- ♪ They won't see me coming
- Oh. [laughs]
2004
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,833
- But the journey continues
for one final couple
2005
01:21:55,833 --> 01:21:57,833
as their Decision Day
approaches.
2006
01:21:57,917 --> 01:21:59,000
- Oh, I have to go--
OK.
2007
01:21:59,125 --> 01:22:00,417
- You have to come to me.
2008
01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:01,792
[chuckles]
2009
01:22:01,875 --> 01:22:03,708
- You know,
after the sex store,
2010
01:22:03,792 --> 01:22:05,333
slid right into having sex.
2011
01:22:05,417 --> 01:22:08,333
How many foster children
are in this dream of yours?
2012
01:22:08,417 --> 01:22:11,042
- You know, probably, you know,
maybe five at a time.
2013
01:22:11,167 --> 01:22:13,667
- Five at a time.
[dramatic sting]
2014
01:22:13,708 --> 01:22:16,583
- If Decision Day
was tomorrow--
2015
01:22:16,708 --> 01:22:20,125
- I would be feeling like
I have insufficient data.
2016
01:22:20,208 --> 01:22:22,000
- Hmm.
2017
01:22:22,042 --> 01:22:23,708
Happy One Month-iversary.
2018
01:22:23,792 --> 01:22:26,667
[dramatic music]
2019
01:22:26,708 --> 01:22:28,625
♪
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