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Don't be filming
my passwords.
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I used to have a shirt in high school
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that said "technology must be used to liberate the individual."
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And I didn't really know what it meant for years,
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'cause I didn't really think about it.
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But today I look back and I'm like, "oh man, hell yeah, I like that shirt."
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I'm glad I wore that shirt, 'cause it's how I really feel today.
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My name is Daniel mross.
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Today is may 3rd, 2012.
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I go through college and watch the Internet come
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and all these different things. And now, like, bitcoin,
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it's just a single technology built on top of the Internet,
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but it's so fascinating because there's so many
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freaking things you can do with it.
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It's also just a big experiment.
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There's no guarantees with it.
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We might just all be wasting our time...
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Exploring concepts and ideas.
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It's at this crossroads of technology
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and philosophy and politics and everything.
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Just be a part of it. It's fun.
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It's crazy though, but it's fun.
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Um, first question is
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what is bitcoin?
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I can't tell you what bitcoin is
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in just a few sentences.
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It takes time to understand it,
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the same way it took people time to understand
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what the Internet was
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back in 1994.
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That little mark with the "a"
and then the ring around it.
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- "At"?
- See, that's what I said.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Katie said she thought
it was "about."
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- Yeah. - Oh, Internet is...
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- That massive computer network... Right.
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...the one that's becoming really big now.
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Allison, can you explain
what Internet is?
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When the Internet was taking off,
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I was in college at Virginia tech
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studying computer science.
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Looking back, it's amazing to think about
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how much the world was changing.
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Hey, Dan, ready for the game?
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I'm just finishing up here
with my new kayaking friends.
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Kayaking friends
on your computer?
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Yeah, I just got
America online.
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That same type of innovation is happening again
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with bitcoin.
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It's the smartest people
in the room
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that are
the most excited about this.
So what are they seeing?
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The Internet changed the way the world communicates
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bitcoin changes the way money works.
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You can basically put
a bank in your pocket.
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Psst!
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Wanna buy some
secret stuff?
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There is now a new note
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that people are starting
to talk about--
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the bitcoin.
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The money of the future.
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Bitcoin was created to provide
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an alternative to the banking system.
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We're in the midst
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of a serious financial crisis
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and the federal government
is responding
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with decisive action.
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Unlike most currencies,
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bitcoins are issued according to a set of fixed rules.
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The idea was to create money whose value
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couldn't be manipulated by a central authority.
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The government, no matter
how many guns they draw,
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cannot change
a mathematical problem.
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They can point their guns at "two plus two,"
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but it's always gonna equal four.
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It's fascinating to imagine
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what it means to have global decentralized money.
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And that's what's happening.
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My five-year-old's birthday.
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First round
of burgers is ready.
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Second round is
going on in a second.
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First round
of burgers is ready!
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First round.
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Dan has always been an idea guy.
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Bitcoin is the perfect combination
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of how can
I change the world
and make it better,
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but how can
I also be a nerd?
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So mostly I've just been supporting him
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in this craziness.
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Eliza and I met in college,
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and we've been married for seven years.
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We live in Pittsburgh, where I'm from,
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and we have three boys,
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I've spent most of my career
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as a database administrator.
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But for the past two years, I've been consumed with bitcoin.
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Bitcoins come into existence through a process called mining.
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I build computers to mine for bitcoins.
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I'm glad that
it's finally getting
a little bit cooler out.
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My wife won't be as angry
that the basement is so hot.
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I've still got a bunch of mining
rigs running right now.
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Actually they're
right down here, if you
wanna go take a look.
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Here they are.
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So what is bitcoin?
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Bitcoin is a revolutionary technology
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that enables a new way to send payments over the Internet.
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- You can think of it as an open accounting system
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where thousands of computers all over the world
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work together to track ownership of digital tokens called bitcoins.
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When you send someone bitcoins,
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the transaction is broadcast to the entire network.
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After it's verified,
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it's recorded in a public ledger
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called the blockchain.
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The blockchain contains a record
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of every bitcoin transaction that has occurred
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since the system began,
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and it's shared and maintained on the network,
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so everyone keeps the books, so to speak.
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Most currencies are issued by a central authority
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that controls the money supply.
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Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer system,
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so there is no central authority.
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Instead bitcoins are issued to users
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who help process transactions in the network.
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This is known as bitcoin mining.
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Bitcoin miners are specialized computers
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that do the work required to verify
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and record transactions in the blockchain.
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As a reward for their work,
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the miners earn bitcoins,
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and this is how new bitcoins are released into circulation.
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The system is programmed
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so that only 21 million bitcoins will ever exist.
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And as time goes by,
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the mining reward decreases.
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The result is a predictable supply
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that's governed by scarcity,
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making bitcoins somewhat like a digital gold.
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It's the first currency of the Internet.
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And everyone is free to use it.
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With bitcoin, you can send any amount of money
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to anyone anywhere in the world
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as easily as sending an email.
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My brother Nick is a filmmaker.
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After hearing me talk about bitcoin incessantly for months,
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we decided to start documenting things.
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Hey, I don't think we'll need the small camera.
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- It can't hurt.
No, I'd rather just leave it behind.
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I have so much equipment.
Do you mind?
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Damn, you really
cramped it up, huh?
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Not that bad.
What do you mean?
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- Jeez.
- Dude, they're right there.
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Right in the back.
Right there.
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I was convinced that bitcoin was going to be huge,
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and I knew there were a lot of others like me out there.
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Zipped my keys in my pocket,
so I don't forget 'em later.
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Bitcoin was created
by what's believed
to be a pseudonym,
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a guy named
satoshi nakamoto.
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Invented in '09
by a fictitious person
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named satoshi nakamoto...
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On Halloween 2008,
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someone using the name satoshi nakamoto.
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Posted on a cryptography mailing list...
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The post contained a link to a white paper
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in which satoshi proposed a new type of payment system for the Internet.
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It described a protocol that used peer-to-peer networking,
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proof of work and public key cryptography.
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For years, computer scientists had been experimenting
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with these technologies to create digital money.
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But satoshi discovered a way to combine them
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that had never been done before.
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In doing so, he invented bitcoin.
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There are no records of nakamoto's existence
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prior to the creation of bitcoin.
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On his profile page,
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he claimed to be a 34-year-old man
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living in Japan.
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Although satoshi nakamoto is a Japanese name,
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he wrote in perfect English when communicating online
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and went through great lengths to keep his identity unknown.
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Nonetheless, programmers and cryptographers
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all across the world recognized the brilliance of satoshi's design.
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And began collaborating with him to further develop bitcoin.
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In October of 2009,
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the first exchange rate was published.
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Listing the value of 1,309 bitcoins at $1.
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Bitcoins were cheap,and through the following year,
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they continued to trade for fractions of a cent.
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In the spring of 2010,
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a Florida man named laszlo
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decided to try using his bitcoins to purchase something.
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He offered 10,000 bitcoins
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to anyone who would buy him pizza.
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A man in London accepted
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and placed a long-distance phone call,
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ordering him two pizzas from papa John's.
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This is generally acknowledged
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as the first bitcoin transaction for a tangible good.
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Bitcoin was gaining momentum,
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but in order for it to thrive
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the coins needed to be more widely accessible.
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A Tokyo-based exchange named mt. Gox was
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the first on the sceneto take hold of the marketplace
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and trading volume started to pick up.
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By November 2010,
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already 4 million bitcoins had been mined.
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And the exchange pricebriefly spiked to 50¢ per coin.
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The market awoke and bitcoin was starting to look like
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it might have real potential as a currency.
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His name is Julian Assange.
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Assange and his colleagues
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collect confidential information and then make it public.
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The release of 250,000
state department documents
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no doubt presents a serious
dilemma for this country.
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Following a massive release
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of secret U.S. diplomatic cables,
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donations to wikileaks were blocked
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by bank of America, visa, mastercard,
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PayPal and Western union.
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An article in "pc world" suggested that bitcoin
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could be used as a workaround
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to send donations to wikileaks.
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One of satoshi's last known posts
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was in response to the article and stated...
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Shortly after that
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satoshi disappeared from the forums
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and was never heard from again.
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Two months later the silk road anonymous marketplace was launched.
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It functioned as an online black market
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for drugs and other illicit goods
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and used bitcoin exclusively,
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because it made the money trail
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nearly impossible to trace.
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The silk road caught the attention
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of New York senator Charles schumer
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who was outraged and publicly called
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for a crackdown on the site.
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Heroin, opium,
cannabis, ecstasy,
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- psychedelics, stimulants.
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It's unbelievable.
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Throughout all this,
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the exchange price continued to climb.
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By February of 2011,
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bitcoin reached parity with the U.S. dollar.
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Sparking an influx of new users and speculators.
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By June the price had soared to a peak of $31
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before it came crashing down.
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As the market tanked, the mt. Gox exchange was hacked,
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further shaking the confidence of investors
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and hammering the price all the way down
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to the $2 range by October.
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While bitcoin enthusiasts kept hope,
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skeptics were quick to share their hindsights
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and rants on blogs and in news articles.
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Many thought that the party was over
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and that bitcoin was on its way out.
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I went online and I bought
one bitcoin last night.
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Really? It's the future.
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I don't know.
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It didn't feel real.
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No. Real's gonna change.
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Just watch.
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Today I sent
a total of...
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2700 bitcoins
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to butterfly labs.
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I purchased, basically, a custom-designed
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bitcoin-mining supercomputer.
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If bitcoin fails...
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Everything I have
is worthless.
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The bitcoins I have,
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the computers,
the mining system
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was all a waste of money.
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But if it succeeds, then...
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It will have been worth it,
I think.
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- The bitcoin economy was a wild west in cyberspace
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that was very attractive to hackers and scammers.
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Over the years, tens of thousands of coins had been stolen
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and 2012 proved no different.
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Users had to be careful.
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If somebody steals
your bitcoins, there are
no consumer protections.
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Sorry, they're gone.
You lost your bitcoins?
They're gone
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and you're not going
to get them back.
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But after months of stagnation on the exchanges,
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the bitcoin price was on the rise again.
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The price of bitcoin today
is around $7 u.S.D.,
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which just had a nice
little bump this week.
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By the end of the year, the blogging site wordpress
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announced it would start accepting bitcoin payments.
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And in early 2013, the discussion forum reddit
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also announced bitcoin support.
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They were the first major sites to incorporate bitcoin,
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and these milestones signaled the beginning
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of mainstream acceptance.
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Bitcoin is the most subversive
technology on the planet.
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This is a system
that is growing around
the entire world.
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So if it works,
if this experiment
continues to grow,
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it doesn't just help
a few of us in this state
or in the country,
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but it actually helps
everyone around the world.
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As the bitcoin price hovered around
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it's previous all-time high of $31,
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I visited a libertarian conference in New Hampshire.
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It lost 20% and then it
gained 20%
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in 20 minutes.
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It is--
they're silly.
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Libertarians are among
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the earliest adopters of bitcoin.
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Its nature as a currency that isn't controlled
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by central banks makes it attractive to this community.
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Once I was able to kind
of grok the basic concept,
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it was like, "this is
the perfect money. "
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This is what a bitcoin address looks like.
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Think of this long string of characters
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as an account number where your bitcoins are stored.
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When you send or receive bitcoins,
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they are sent to these addresses.
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The addresses are long and hard to remember
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so using a phone to scan a q.R. Code
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is a fast and easy way to read them.
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Another good thing to know
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is that bitcoins can be broken down
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to eight decimal places.
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This means that you can send fractions of a bitcoin.
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So any amount of money can be represented.
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With bitcoin, every transaction is public.
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Everyone can see the amount that is being sent
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without necessarily knowing the identity of the sender.
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These guys even have one of the first bitcoin a.T.M.S.
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You just scan
your q.R. Code
on your phone,
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put in the dollar bills and press the button.
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Bam. Done.
Perfect.
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You now traded your worthless piece of paper
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for real currency.
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It's like, "end the fed?"
It's like, seriously,
you think
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you're gonna end the fed?
You're not gonna end the fed.
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You're not gonna change
anything about the fed.
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- Transcend the fed.
- Bypass the fed.
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- Right, yeah.
- That's what you should do.
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My concern is how
the governments will react.
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They can't kill
or stop bitcoin,
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but they could impede it
and they could get in the way
of its development.
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A few weeks later across the ocean,
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a financial crisis was reaching a breaking point
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on the island of Cyprus.
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Cyprus is on the brink
of going bust.
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The rest of Europe
has agreed to a bailout,
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but only if Cyprus raids
people's bank accounts
for quick hard cash.
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People tried to get money out of the cash machines
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but electronic transfers have been stopped.
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- Never did I think
that they would...
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...in a completely
unprecedented manner
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resort to stealing money
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from people's
bank accounts.
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The Cypriots had placed their trust
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in the banking system and it had failed them.
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As news of the crisis spread around the world,
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bitcoin believers were quick to point it out
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as an example of why a currency
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free from government control was needed.
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There's actually
bitcoin atms
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apparently being
set up in Cyprus.
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All of a sudden, bitcoin looks
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like an attractive prospect.
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While this was happening in Cyprus,
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regulators at the U.S. treasury
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weighed in on bitcoin.
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The financial crimes enforcement network, known as fincen,
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issued its first regulatory guidance on virtual currencies.
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The guidance implied that bitcoin,
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in and of itself, was not illegal.
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It was the perfect storm.
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The situation in Cyprus suggested
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that bitcoin could function as a financial safe haven.
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And the approving nod of U.S. regulators
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was a green light for investors.
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The market agreed
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and the exchange price continued to climb.
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It's moving from the super
super-early-adopter phase
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to possibly
the early-adopter phase.
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Bitcoin was getting
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international exposure
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and people were starting to pay attention.
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This is actually a live, updated map of the globe
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and the lines represent bitcoin clients.
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Basically where the bitcoin software is running.
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And the length
of the line determines
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how long it's been online
or how active it's been.
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And every time
I look at this,
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I swear it gets more
and more saturated.
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You can almost see
an outline of the U.S. now.
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South America--
you're starting to get it.
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00:18:16,262 --> 00:18:18,029
But the big news,
in my opinion,
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is this-- China.
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You used to see one, two, three, maybe.
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And this is all within the last three weeks or so.
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That's the most I've ever seen in China.
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Look down here.
Indonesia, Singapore,
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Australia, New Zealand.
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The following week it snowed in pittsburg.
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I was eagerly awaiting the delivery of two avalon asics,
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state of the art computers
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with chips specifically designed for mining bitcoins.
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Yifu guo is at the forefront
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of the new generation of hardware,
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and is the first to bring them to market.
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00:18:57,737 --> 00:18:59,670
Everybody,
including myself,
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had severely
underestimated
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the mining market
and how big it is.
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00:19:02,909 --> 00:19:04,275
When bitcoin began,
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a standard laptop was powerful enough
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to mine hundreds of bitcoins in a matter of days.
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00:19:09,115 --> 00:19:12,817
The technology evolved rapidly over the past couple of years.
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A lot of people
are getting into it
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or still trying
to catch up.
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I was on vacation with my family
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when the new miners were scheduled to arrive.
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The price of bitcoin had rocketed to $77
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so I asked some friends to wait at my house
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to get them running as soon as possible.
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- All right!
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00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:36,474
- I hope this is good.
I hope it's worthwhile.
- Oh, definitely.
420
00:19:37,943 --> 00:19:39,477
These are
new computer parts here...
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00:19:39,479 --> 00:19:41,445
- Excellent, excellent.
- ...Fresh in from China.
422
00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:44,315
All right, it's not
official until you sign.
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00:19:44,317 --> 00:19:46,017
There we go.
424
00:19:48,287 --> 00:19:50,421
- Yeah, we'll see.- Maybe down the road
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00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:51,956
you guys will start accepting bitcoin one day, I bet.
426
00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:53,591
- That's cool.
- Just a matter of time.
427
00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:55,193
- Good luck to you guys.- All right.
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00:19:56,728 --> 00:19:57,929
I notified Dan
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00:19:57,931 --> 00:19:59,063
and he has a little response here.
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00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:13,511
Welcome to
the financial renaissance.
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00:20:14,746 --> 00:20:16,781
192.168.1.140.
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255.255.255.0.
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192.168.1.1.
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That's the default gateway.
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00:20:22,522 --> 00:20:26,591
My first pull is gonna be
stratum.Ozc.In, port 3333.
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Port 80,
but I can do 3333.
437
00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:31,596
And when everything's all said and done, for at least a little while,
438
00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:34,932
it should be pulling in
10 to 12 coins a day.
439
00:20:34,934 --> 00:20:37,368
That's gonna change though,
after another week.
440
00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:39,303
It's gonna get
dropped down to, like, eight,
441
00:20:39,305 --> 00:20:41,606
- just because the difficulty's
just going through the roof.
- Yeah.
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00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:43,040
Everybody's firing
these things up,
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00:20:43,042 --> 00:20:44,742
so it's always
a race to stay ahead
444
00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:48,112
and try to be the first guy with the hardware, you know?
445
00:20:48,114 --> 00:20:50,214
Oh, I'm getting pings.
Whoo!
446
00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:51,916
Yup, we're kicking.
447
00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:53,317
We are accepting shares.
448
00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:54,418
It is live.
449
00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:56,754
We've got the Merlot!
450
00:21:03,829 --> 00:21:05,463
Hey, that looks like johan.
451
00:21:05,465 --> 00:21:08,633
Say, "I'm going
to college 'cause
my dad mines bitcoins."
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Dad going bitcoins.
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00:21:17,676 --> 00:21:20,311
So, big day today, huh?
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Big day.
Look at that. 104.
455
00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:25,182
Current bitcoin price.
Broke 100 today.
456
00:21:25,184 --> 00:21:28,819
It is April fool's day.
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00:21:28,821 --> 00:21:32,089
The price rising
so insanely high
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is kind of
a little bit unprecedented,
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so-- I mean, it's bound
to pop a little bit.
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Maybe.
I don't know.
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Maybe it'll be at 225
in a week and a half,
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00:21:41,934 --> 00:21:45,236
so who knows?
Bitcoin styles--
463
00:21:45,238 --> 00:21:47,038
could go up,
could go down.
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As the price passed 100,
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we took a trip to visit Gavin andresen.
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He is known to have worked closely with satoshi
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00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:03,321
during bitcoin's early days.
468
00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:12,763
Here's the train tracks,
and he did say
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there would be train tracks
maybe passing through.
470
00:22:17,402 --> 00:22:19,470
Here we go.
This is Gavin's house.
471
00:22:25,477 --> 00:22:27,078
Gavin is one of the last people
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00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,447
to communicate with satoshi before he disappeared.
473
00:22:32,617 --> 00:22:36,087
Morning.
This is my brother Nick
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- and his wife Ashley.
- Nice to meet you.
475
00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:39,623
- Hi, nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
476
00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,926
Found the place
okay, so--
- good.
477
00:22:41,928 --> 00:22:44,128
We're very excited
to be here.
478
00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:46,263
Come in.
This is my humble house.
479
00:22:46,265 --> 00:22:49,333
- - That's where I work.
This is where I live.
480
00:22:52,471 --> 00:22:55,406
- Beautiful home.
- Well, thanks.
481
00:22:55,408 --> 00:22:57,975
- A little higher, please.- Right there. Great.
482
00:22:57,977 --> 00:23:00,077
- Got it.
483
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:02,313
How did you first get into bitcoin?
484
00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:04,248
Tell us a little bit of the story of how you got involved.
485
00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:06,484
I had been working at umass
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as a staff programmer
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00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:09,153
in the computer science
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00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:10,654
department research group.
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00:23:10,656 --> 00:23:12,990
My wife's a Professor at umass.
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00:23:12,992 --> 00:23:14,792
I actually quit that job before going
491
00:23:14,794 --> 00:23:17,228
on a six-month sabbatical in Australia.
492
00:23:17,230 --> 00:23:19,997
I just happened
to read a little blurb
493
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online in somebody's blog
494
00:23:22,135 --> 00:23:24,268
that mentioned
this bitcoin project,
495
00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:27,037
which is an open-source
attempt to do money.
496
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And it caught my interest.
497
00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:32,943
I basically just spent a few days
498
00:23:32,945 --> 00:23:34,945
read everything I could about it
499
00:23:34,947 --> 00:23:37,348
looked at the source code, downloaded the source code,
500
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:40,050
thought about it
and I really couldn't
convince myself
501
00:23:40,052 --> 00:23:41,919
that it would not work.
502
00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:43,854
It seemed like satoshi had thought of everything.
503
00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:46,657
Since then...
504
00:23:48,126 --> 00:23:50,261
I've just been sucked down
the rabbit hole.
505
00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:53,030
Bitcoin is open-source software.
506
00:23:53,032 --> 00:23:54,632
With open-source software,
507
00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:56,400
the code is publicly available.
508
00:23:56,402 --> 00:23:59,103
Anyone can look at it and see how it runs.
509
00:23:59,105 --> 00:24:01,639
And they can also contribute their own changes.
510
00:24:01,641 --> 00:24:05,276
Programmers like Gavin were able to join satoshi to work on bitcoin
511
00:24:05,278 --> 00:24:07,278
simply because they were interested.
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00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,748
Over time, I think
satoshi learned to trust me.
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00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:14,118
He could see that I didn't make very many stupid mistakes.
514
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,720
I never had any personal
connection with satoshi.
515
00:24:16,722 --> 00:24:18,489
It was always
purely business.
516
00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:21,225
And I think that's because
he was so worried about
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00:24:21,227 --> 00:24:22,960
people finding out
his identity.
518
00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:26,564
I don't know why.
My last email to him
519
00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:28,265
was telling him that I had
520
00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:30,734
agreed to go visit
the folks at the c.I.A.,
521
00:24:30,736 --> 00:24:32,736
so...
522
00:24:32,738 --> 00:24:34,472
Whether that had something
to do with him
523
00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:37,174
deciding to cut off
communication with me
entirely--
524
00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:39,510
he had been pulling away before then,
525
00:24:39,512 --> 00:24:42,580
but the c.I.A. Invited me
to come talk at the c.I.A.
526
00:24:42,582 --> 00:24:44,348
And I agreed to do that.
527
00:24:46,117 --> 00:24:47,651
Knowing it would surely spark
528
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:50,120
conspiracy theories, Gavin posted an announcement
529
00:24:50,122 --> 00:24:52,122
on the bitcoin talk discussion forum
530
00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:53,691
to head off any rumors.
531
00:25:01,366 --> 00:25:03,467
Having taken on the lead developer position
532
00:25:03,469 --> 00:25:05,636
since satoshi's disappearance,
533
00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:08,939
Gavin found himself facing an increasing number of responsibilities
534
00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,608
and public scrutiny.
535
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:13,043
Do your neighbors
know that you're kind of
at the center
536
00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:15,913
of one of the most
disruptive technologies?
537
00:25:15,915 --> 00:25:20,050
I think-- I think
they know that I do
this wacky bitcoin project.
538
00:25:21,953 --> 00:25:24,588
I don't think they know
quite how big it is yet.
539
00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:26,624
Right now,
540
00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:29,393
bitcoin's
a billion-dollar project.
541
00:25:29,395 --> 00:25:31,896
When I started it was this tiny little experiment.
542
00:25:31,898 --> 00:25:33,931
And as it gets bigger,
543
00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:37,134
the pressure
to not screw up
544
00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:39,503
just gets
bigger and bigger.
545
00:25:43,808 --> 00:25:45,075
Two weeks later
546
00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:47,144
the price soared past 150.
547
00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:48,913
And some bitcoiners woke up
548
00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:51,415
to find out they were bitcoin millionaires.
549
00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:53,284
23-year-old Charlie shrem
550
00:25:53,286 --> 00:25:55,920
is the c.E.O. Of a company called bitinstant.
551
00:25:55,922 --> 00:26:00,090
Bitinstant was one of the first startups in the bitcoin space.
552
00:26:00,092 --> 00:26:02,259
In bitcoin's infancy, people had to jump
553
00:26:02,261 --> 00:26:04,261
through several hoops to buy them.
554
00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,729
One of the only ways
555
00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:07,431
was through the mt. Gox exchange,
556
00:26:07,433 --> 00:26:09,466
but this process required transferring money
557
00:26:09,468 --> 00:26:10,801
through several intermediaries
558
00:26:10,803 --> 00:26:12,770
and could take weeks.
559
00:26:12,772 --> 00:26:15,973
Charlie launched bitinstant to streamline this process.
560
00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:18,709
And to help people buy bitcoins quickly.
561
00:26:18,711 --> 00:26:21,078
Yeah, that's good. That's great.
562
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,746
- That's pretty nice.
- You go like that.
563
00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,481
Yeah, sure.
564
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:26,150
Today Charlie is being photographed
565
00:26:26,152 --> 00:26:27,885
for an article in "businessweek."
566
00:26:27,887 --> 00:26:29,587
One of the ideas they had
567
00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:31,488
was that you're going-- throwing stuff up in the air
568
00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:33,524
and they were gonna add bitcoins in later on.
569
00:26:33,526 --> 00:26:35,259
- Going like that?
- Yeah.
570
00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:38,929
This bitcoin thing can actually change the world.
571
00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:41,098
But for this thing to succeed,
572
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,700
we have to figure out
a way to get more money
573
00:26:42,702 --> 00:26:44,735
in and out
of the ecosystem.
574
00:26:44,737 --> 00:26:47,705
Look out the window a bit.
Totally-- yeah.
575
00:26:47,707 --> 00:26:49,406
Then you can look--
yeah, that's good.
576
00:26:49,408 --> 00:26:51,508
And not show that
I'm super stressed out
right now
577
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:54,244
and we have thousands of orders
that are being processed
578
00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:56,947
and I'm bugging out,
trying to get the new
site launched.
579
00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:59,183
- No, don't look like that.
- It's crazy.
580
00:26:59,185 --> 00:27:00,918
I'm trying not to,
but it's really hard.
581
00:27:06,024 --> 00:27:07,992
Things have been insane.
582
00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:13,764
I haven't slept in days.
583
00:27:13,766 --> 00:27:15,866
The price is just rising, so a lot of people
584
00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:17,001
are putting money into it.
585
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:19,970
Normally, Charlie can get bitcoins
586
00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:22,239
to his customers in about an hour.
587
00:27:22,241 --> 00:27:23,774
But with the recent flood of people
588
00:27:23,776 --> 00:27:25,442
trying to purchase bitcoins,
589
00:27:25,444 --> 00:27:28,946
bitinstant can't fill their orders fast enough.
590
00:27:28,948 --> 00:27:31,749
When I pulled up our
customer service interface,
591
00:27:31,751 --> 00:27:34,418
we have close to 2,000 open tickets.
592
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:37,321
And that's just
from Saturday to this morning.
593
00:27:37,323 --> 00:27:38,622
Nobody was ready
594
00:27:38,624 --> 00:27:39,757
for this kind
of volume,
595
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,426
so we're trying
to catch up
596
00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:45,396
with the volume
and keep everybody happy.
597
00:27:45,398 --> 00:27:47,464
Can you just sort of describe quickly
598
00:27:47,466 --> 00:27:50,734
what the last week or so has been like for you guys?
599
00:27:50,736 --> 00:27:53,604
The last week or so saw
our support staff
600
00:27:53,606 --> 00:27:55,639
go from two people
to five people.
601
00:27:55,641 --> 00:27:56,740
When someone
offers you
602
00:27:56,742 --> 00:27:57,941
a seat
on the rocket,
603
00:27:57,943 --> 00:27:59,309
you don't ask
where the seat is.
604
00:27:59,311 --> 00:28:00,978
You just
get on the rocket.
605
00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:04,481
Further, our volume has
basically tripled
606
00:28:04,483 --> 00:28:06,750
in the past two weeks,
607
00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:09,219
going from a few hundred transactions a day
608
00:28:09,221 --> 00:28:12,289
to now two, three thousand
transactions a day.
609
00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:13,791
You just came onboard here, right?
- Yeah, I did.
610
00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:15,959
Actually, today is
kinda my first day.
611
00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:17,561
- Oh really?
- Yeah.
612
00:28:17,563 --> 00:28:19,430
How does it feel to be a part of all this madness?
613
00:28:19,432 --> 00:28:21,899
Um, well, madness, yeah.
614
00:28:21,901 --> 00:28:23,967
It's overwhelming.
615
00:28:23,969 --> 00:28:26,070
And what do you do for bitinstant?
616
00:28:26,072 --> 00:28:28,038
I'm the c.F.O.
617
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,441
Can you give me a daily estimate
618
00:28:30,443 --> 00:28:32,609
of how much money you're moving through your system?
619
00:28:32,611 --> 00:28:34,712
Um, it's in the--
620
00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:37,047
in the six figures
every day.
621
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:38,515
All right. Well, thanks, Charlie.
622
00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:40,451
- I really appreciate it.
- Thank you.
623
00:28:40,453 --> 00:28:44,088
I don't know how the government will react to bitcoin,
624
00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:47,291
but I spend thousandsof dollars on lawyers every day
625
00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:49,126
just to make sure that I'm not gonna go to jail.
626
00:28:51,096 --> 00:28:53,697
It's super terrifying.
I mean, I don't wanna
go to jail.
627
00:28:55,801 --> 00:28:57,301
I don't wanna become
a martyr either.
628
00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:11,248
Bitcoin was the talk of the town.
629
00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:13,150
Charlie was in the limelight
630
00:29:13,152 --> 00:29:15,953
and could barely keep up with media requests.
631
00:29:15,955 --> 00:29:19,089
Within hours, the price passed $200.
632
00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:26,563
First day of spring,
633
00:29:26,565 --> 00:29:28,198
first day bitcoin is over 200.
634
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,633
The start of a new era.
635
00:29:29,635 --> 00:29:30,968
Hi. Nice to meet you.
636
00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:32,703
I'm the nice
warm loving mom
637
00:29:32,705 --> 00:29:35,072
that makes him
live at home.
638
00:29:35,074 --> 00:29:39,209
'Cause we can't--
we can't part from him yet.
639
00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:43,080
We love him too much.
640
00:29:43,082 --> 00:29:44,915
This is where
it all started
641
00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:46,150
and this is where
it still goes down.
642
00:29:47,886 --> 00:29:50,420
I've been collecting money
from all over the world.
643
00:29:50,422 --> 00:29:52,556
And it's just something
I did way before bitcoin.
644
00:29:52,558 --> 00:29:54,024
I've been doing it
since I was a kid.
645
00:29:54,026 --> 00:29:55,893
So it's funny that
I'm collecting all this...
646
00:29:55,895 --> 00:29:57,761
Fiat that's
not worth anything
647
00:29:57,763 --> 00:29:59,930
and then all of a sudden
I get into this bitcoin thing.
648
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,934
I realized during high school that
649
00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:06,203
I could never work for anyone.
650
00:30:06,205 --> 00:30:07,604
I made up a term--
651
00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:09,573
psychologically unemployable.
652
00:30:09,575 --> 00:30:11,842
I started bitinstant while I was still
653
00:30:11,844 --> 00:30:13,844
in my senior year of college.
654
00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:18,182
Bitcoin currently is the largest social- economic experiment
655
00:30:18,184 --> 00:30:20,184
ever conducted in the history of the world.
656
00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:23,287
2013, possibly 2014,
657
00:30:23,289 --> 00:30:25,622
will be the two years that really make or break bitcoin.
658
00:30:27,859 --> 00:30:30,894
Bitcoin is the first product that's digital,
659
00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:32,262
but it's also scarce.
660
00:30:35,466 --> 00:30:38,302
I got some good news last night that
661
00:30:38,304 --> 00:30:40,571
part of our licensing deals that we've been trying to do
662
00:30:40,573 --> 00:30:42,039
for the past few months are finally,
663
00:30:42,041 --> 00:30:43,540
hopefully, coming through.
664
00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:45,809
We got approved
to be licensed
665
00:30:45,811 --> 00:30:48,345
in 30 of the 48 states
in money transmission.
666
00:30:50,281 --> 00:30:52,449
I've been working very hard
on trying to be compliant
667
00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:53,951
in the legal realm
668
00:30:53,953 --> 00:30:56,787
and with fincen's
announcement,
669
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:59,923
setting up a way
for bitcoin companies
to legally exist,
670
00:30:59,925 --> 00:31:02,292
that really changes
the whole game of bitcoin.
671
00:31:02,294 --> 00:31:06,230
And for us,
it helped us get
that last push
672
00:31:06,232 --> 00:31:07,898
that we needed
from all the banks
673
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:09,867
and the regulators
to finally, hopefully,
674
00:31:09,869 --> 00:31:11,335
get that licensing
that we need.
675
00:31:14,405 --> 00:31:17,040
Today, Charlie's meeting with a realtor
676
00:31:17,042 --> 00:31:18,742
to talk about new office space.
677
00:31:18,744 --> 00:31:20,911
Hi, Charlie,
nice to meet you.
678
00:31:20,913 --> 00:31:22,746
- Hi, I'm Mitch waldman.
How are you?
- A pleasure.
679
00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:25,249
- Got a minute?
- I have 10 minutes for you.
680
00:31:25,251 --> 00:31:27,918
We're-- we're a company
with no boss, essentially.
681
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,553
Everyone has
their responsibilities.
682
00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:31,388
It's just
one big executive board.
683
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:32,923
- It's just one big
executive board.
- Okay.
684
00:31:32,925 --> 00:31:35,859
If I don't do my job,
these guys are all
gonna yell at me.
685
00:31:35,861 --> 00:31:38,362
- So that's how we do it, but we get things done. All right.
686
00:31:38,364 --> 00:31:40,297
We're outgrowing this space,
as you can see here.
687
00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:42,933
- That's a good problem to have.
- Yes.
688
00:31:42,935 --> 00:31:44,935
Now Rachel said
there was a great concern
689
00:31:44,937 --> 00:31:47,070
- about security
in this space.
Yeah.
690
00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:49,673
We're regulated, so we can't share an office
691
00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:51,675
- with another company
if they have access to us.
- I get that.
692
00:31:51,677 --> 00:31:54,077
Our asset is our software.
693
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,847
Our software is processing
hundreds of thousands
of dollars a day
694
00:31:56,849 --> 00:31:58,448
instantly.
Really quickly.
695
00:31:58,450 --> 00:32:00,684
And that's on-site here?
Or is it in the cloud?
696
00:32:00,686 --> 00:32:02,552
No, this is in the cloud.
It's all in the cloud,
but we monitor--
697
00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:04,288
we have to monitor
everything from here...
698
00:32:04,290 --> 00:32:06,790
- Right.
- ...And debug, fix,
take down, upload more--
699
00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:09,760
- put up more workers.
- We deal with high-volume
data-oriented stuff every day.
700
00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,295
Very very sensitive
customer data.
701
00:32:11,297 --> 00:32:13,764
If there were not a doorman,
702
00:32:13,766 --> 00:32:16,099
at the very least
the space would be
designed in such a manner
703
00:32:16,101 --> 00:32:19,036
that there'd be
a locked reception area.
704
00:32:19,038 --> 00:32:21,204
If we want to pursue
a guard at some point,
705
00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:23,874
we could have them
in that area.
706
00:32:23,876 --> 00:32:25,709
- - I absolutely think
707
00:32:25,711 --> 00:32:28,045
- it will be at some point.
It's just a matter of time.
- Really?
708
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,948
The potential for theft is huge.
709
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:33,383
It's like operating
a bank, essentially.
710
00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:34,785
That's pretty much it.
711
00:32:34,787 --> 00:32:36,420
- Gotcha.
- It's basic stuff.
712
00:32:36,422 --> 00:32:38,522
Yup yup. All right.
713
00:32:38,524 --> 00:32:40,123
Any other words for me?
714
00:32:42,694 --> 00:32:44,995
- Okay.
- Are you willing
to handle the task?
715
00:32:48,032 --> 00:32:49,967
Sign me up, captain.
716
00:32:52,603 --> 00:32:57,007
That night, the price got as high as $266.
717
00:32:57,009 --> 00:32:59,776
Every major news outlet had taken notice.
718
00:32:59,778 --> 00:33:01,845
Bitcoin fever was at an all-time high.
719
00:33:01,847 --> 00:33:03,613
It is getting
a lot of attention.
720
00:33:03,615 --> 00:33:05,682
People are fascinated
by anything that
makes new highs
721
00:33:05,684 --> 00:33:08,085
every day for weeks on end,
which bitcoin has done.
722
00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:09,353
In terms of the total number
of the people
723
00:33:09,355 --> 00:33:11,088
using the currency,
I'm not sure,
724
00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:12,589
but you can say
that there's a huge amount
725
00:33:12,591 --> 00:33:15,492
of fluctuation
in the volume of trading.
726
00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:17,928
And then the price crashed.
727
00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:25,902
Bitcoin lost more than half of its value
728
00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:27,537
in six hours.
729
00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:30,207
From craze to crash.
730
00:33:30,209 --> 00:33:33,243
It's the talk of many people
in the blogosphere,
731
00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:36,246
and it's certainly suffering
some growing pains.
732
00:33:36,248 --> 00:33:40,017
The value of the virtual
currency bitcoin has plunged.
733
00:33:40,019 --> 00:33:41,118
It's been
a crazy day today.
734
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,253
I haven't slept
in like 40 hours.
735
00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:48,125
Your order processed. I don't understand
736
00:33:48,127 --> 00:33:49,526
why we're still having this conversation.
737
00:33:49,528 --> 00:33:52,062
We refunded your order. We sent you extra bitcoins.
738
00:33:52,064 --> 00:33:53,397
I don't care, man.
739
00:33:53,399 --> 00:33:55,565
When it comes to my money, I don't fuck around.
740
00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:56,900
- I know, man.- You need your stuff.
741
00:33:56,902 --> 00:33:58,635
I hear ya, I hear ya. It processed.
742
00:33:58,637 --> 00:34:00,203
Your bitcoins are there, man.
743
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,041
So, Charlie, what's been going on today?
744
00:34:04,043 --> 00:34:06,410
- Crazy day, huh?
- Yeah, mt. Gox--
745
00:34:06,412 --> 00:34:09,212
their whole system
pretty much failed
746
00:34:09,214 --> 00:34:11,448
and their whole
trading engine is broken.
747
00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:15,619
Pretty much caused-- almost--
us to shut down for the day.
748
00:34:15,621 --> 00:34:17,754
Further, the bitcoin price has just been
749
00:34:17,756 --> 00:34:19,056
wildly swinging up and down
750
00:34:19,058 --> 00:34:21,358
it was down $100 today.
751
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,394
It's gaining back up,
but mostly because people
can't buy and sell
752
00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:26,196
and they can't withdraw
and they can't deposit.
753
00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:28,899
'Cause the whole thing
is just-- it's just a Fritz.
754
00:34:28,901 --> 00:34:31,201
So what we're trying
to do is figure out a way
755
00:34:31,203 --> 00:34:33,770
to mitigate orders somewhere else for now.
756
00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:36,106
With mt. Gox stuck in a nosedive,
757
00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:39,376
the ripple effect is creating chaos in the bitcoin markets.
758
00:34:43,414 --> 00:34:44,848
I'm trying to figure out
759
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:47,117
why our orders aren't going through.
760
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:48,718
Rachel, am I allowed
to take another advil
761
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,554
if I took one
an hour ago?
762
00:34:50,556 --> 00:34:53,623
They've been having problems
ordering anything off of gox.
763
00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:55,859
Yeah, I'm getting a lot
of customers emailing,
764
00:34:55,861 --> 00:34:58,028
saying "it says 'executed,'
but it's not showing
in the blockchain."
765
00:34:58,030 --> 00:34:59,563
Dude, gox suspended trading.
766
00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:00,831
- Really?
- Yeah.
767
00:35:00,833 --> 00:35:02,732
"Orders placed
suspended until 2100."
768
00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:04,167
What time--
what's 2100?
769
00:35:04,169 --> 00:35:06,503
What? That's 9:00 P.M.
oh my God.
770
00:35:20,718 --> 00:35:21,985
If you bought at 150...
771
00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:25,288
And then you're at 260,
772
00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:28,225
and then you watch it
dip down back to 150,
773
00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:30,227
do you panic some?
Yeah, absolutely.
774
00:35:30,229 --> 00:35:32,095
I don't know what a bitcoin is.
I just bought it.
775
00:35:33,899 --> 00:35:35,732
Fuck.
776
00:35:35,734 --> 00:35:37,234
You see buy orders,
people buying
777
00:35:37,236 --> 00:35:40,537
and selling
at such a wide range.
778
00:35:40,539 --> 00:35:42,372
It doesn't make
any sense.
779
00:35:42,374 --> 00:35:44,574
The a.P.I. Is just constantly failing?
780
00:35:44,576 --> 00:35:46,910
Is that what's going on? Or are we're not getting any orders.
781
00:35:55,921 --> 00:35:58,021
Don't care about the price.
782
00:35:58,023 --> 00:35:59,856
Speculators can play
musical chairs
783
00:35:59,858 --> 00:36:01,558
all day long
for all I care.
784
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,660
I'm-I'm-- I'm long.
785
00:36:05,963 --> 00:36:08,932
I was focused on expanding my mining operation.
786
00:36:10,868 --> 00:36:13,069
The only people that are gonna be shaken out
787
00:36:13,071 --> 00:36:14,905
by this drop
788
00:36:14,907 --> 00:36:17,340
are people that are new to bitcoin.
789
00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:20,177
Here's the avalons,
spinning away,
790
00:36:20,179 --> 00:36:21,711
mining away.
791
00:36:21,713 --> 00:36:23,847
And if everything
goes as planned,
792
00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:25,749
we'll have 18 more
of these guys
793
00:36:25,751 --> 00:36:28,084
in a couple of weeks.
794
00:36:28,086 --> 00:36:30,053
Bitcoin is a complicated thing.
795
00:36:30,055 --> 00:36:31,588
You have to spend
some time looking into it
796
00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:33,557
and understanding it
before you really care.
797
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,092
Now there's droves
of people that--
798
00:36:36,094 --> 00:36:38,028
you know, are giving it more
than just that glance,
799
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:40,230
because the price
has gone so high.
800
00:36:40,232 --> 00:36:43,066
And they have
dollar signs in their eyes
like Uncle scrooge.
801
00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:45,335
It's so much more than that,
802
00:36:45,337 --> 00:36:47,337
and I think that's why the people who are mining
803
00:36:47,339 --> 00:36:49,072
and the people who believe in it
804
00:36:49,074 --> 00:36:50,674
are just kind of holding strong.
805
00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:56,213
When trading resumed at mt. Gox,
806
00:36:56,215 --> 00:36:59,416
the price fell even further, to around $70.
807
00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:01,851
71 on b.T.C.-E.
808
00:37:05,456 --> 00:37:07,357
Yeah, bitcoin--
it's volatile.
809
00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:10,794
It's gonna be a long time
until we have stability.
810
00:37:10,796 --> 00:37:12,062
That's the nature
of the beast.
811
00:37:12,064 --> 00:37:16,199
Price discovery can be
violent and volatile.
812
00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:19,436
There's gonna be a lot
of people that come and go,
813
00:37:19,438 --> 00:37:21,638
and people
that scream wolf.
814
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,406
But at the end of the day,
815
00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:26,243
the only thing that really kind of stinks right now
816
00:37:26,245 --> 00:37:28,878
is that everybody is trading on one platform
817
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,780
that isn't doing
the greatest job, so...
818
00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:34,784
Over time, hopefully
we'll see some more
exchanges pop up
819
00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:36,419
and get
some more options in.
820
00:37:36,421 --> 00:37:38,288
People wanna keep
using bitcoin,
821
00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:40,590
I'm sure the infrastructure
will come.
822
00:38:01,379 --> 00:38:02,946
It's just gotten
ridiculously busy.
823
00:38:04,515 --> 00:38:06,416
I get an email
every two seconds now
824
00:38:06,418 --> 00:38:09,552
- and pretty much
more email than I--
825
00:38:09,554 --> 00:38:11,521
--Than I can keep up with.
826
00:38:11,523 --> 00:38:14,691
Jered kenna is the c.E.O. Of tradehill.
827
00:38:14,693 --> 00:38:16,760
The first U.S.-based bitcoin exchange
828
00:38:16,762 --> 00:38:18,762
to compete with mt. Gox.
829
00:38:18,764 --> 00:38:20,930
He's also on the list of bitcoin millionaires.
830
00:38:22,433 --> 00:38:24,367
This is finnegan right here.
831
00:38:24,369 --> 00:38:26,369
Guard dog.
Hey, finnegan.
832
00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:30,006
Jered runs tradehill
833
00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:32,042
out of a 41-bedroom residential hotel
834
00:38:32,044 --> 00:38:34,411
called 20 mission that he also owns.
835
00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:44,020
We mostly rent out rooms
to tech people,
startup people.
836
00:38:44,022 --> 00:38:45,522
There's a lot
of bitcoiners.
837
00:38:45,524 --> 00:38:47,190
I actually accept rent in bitcoin,
838
00:38:47,192 --> 00:38:49,192
which is great,
because we have a lot
of international people.
839
00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:54,931
¶ Bitcoin! ¶
840
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,769
¶ Came to us
from the cryptogram ¶
841
00:38:59,771 --> 00:39:03,340
¶ it came out of thin air ¶
842
00:39:03,342 --> 00:39:06,710
¶ it saved us
from those nasty dollars ¶
843
00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:08,311
¶ and won and yen ¶
844
00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:12,282
¶ bitcoin. ¶
845
00:39:12,284 --> 00:39:14,384
- that's all I got.
- I'm done.
846
00:39:17,221 --> 00:39:19,089
Digital currency
is gonna happen.
847
00:39:19,091 --> 00:39:21,558
I mean, it's--
it already is
happening,
848
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,594
and it will be
the future,
849
00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:26,363
whether that's now,
850
00:39:26,365 --> 00:39:28,498
10 years from now,
a hundred years from now.
851
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,667
We're going to be using
digital currencies
852
00:39:30,669 --> 00:39:32,635
that don't depend
on fiat government.
853
00:39:32,637 --> 00:39:37,006
Jered originally launched tradehill about two years ago,
854
00:39:37,008 --> 00:39:38,842
but ran into problems with a payment processor
855
00:39:38,844 --> 00:39:40,443
and was forced to shut down.
856
00:39:42,012 --> 00:39:44,047
Recently he met Ryan singer
857
00:39:44,049 --> 00:39:46,583
and together they are relaunching the exchange.
858
00:39:46,585 --> 00:39:47,717
The business
we're in is
859
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,185
helping people
speculate, right?
860
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:50,754
Markets are
861
00:39:50,756 --> 00:39:52,422
price discovery mechanisms.
862
00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:53,690
That's what they're for.
863
00:39:53,692 --> 00:39:55,825
People--
they buy, they sell,
864
00:39:55,827 --> 00:39:57,394
there's the bid,
there's the ask
865
00:39:57,396 --> 00:40:00,363
and the price moves.
And when it levels out,
866
00:40:00,365 --> 00:40:02,265
then that's what
the market price is.
867
00:40:02,267 --> 00:40:04,534
I can't even count the amount
of people that have said,
868
00:40:04,536 --> 00:40:06,069
"bitcoin's not backed
by anything.
869
00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:07,937
At least dollars
are backed by gold."
870
00:40:07,939 --> 00:40:10,240
I've realized that a lot of people believe that.
871
00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:13,610
My grandfather, he got me into investing
872
00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:14,944
when I was a kid. I was five years old.
873
00:40:14,946 --> 00:40:16,780
I could explain a p/e ratio,
874
00:40:16,782 --> 00:40:19,115
and what a bid and an ask was,
875
00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:20,884
and the difference
between a limit order
and a market order
876
00:40:20,886 --> 00:40:22,285
and all that stuff,
so for me,
877
00:40:22,287 --> 00:40:24,220
I saw this as a way
that the average person
878
00:40:24,222 --> 00:40:25,955
could actually take control
of their finances.
879
00:40:25,957 --> 00:40:28,358
I just grew up pretty nerdy.
880
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,428
I don't know.
Then like at 15 years old,
881
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:33,129
I decided I didn't want
to be a nerd anymore,
882
00:40:33,131 --> 00:40:36,366
which was a mistake...
'Cause...
883
00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:39,669
'Cause now I realize
it's pretty awesome.
884
00:40:41,472 --> 00:40:44,073
In 1999 I joined the marines.
885
00:40:44,075 --> 00:40:46,443
I was originally with an engineering unit.
886
00:40:47,845 --> 00:40:49,712
2005, I went over to Afghanistan.
887
00:40:49,714 --> 00:40:52,182
I was mostly working with the Afghan national army.
888
00:40:52,184 --> 00:40:54,317
It changed me a lot as a person.
889
00:40:56,987 --> 00:40:58,755
I've always been interested
in economics
890
00:40:58,757 --> 00:41:00,924
and finance and technology
and cryptography.
891
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:03,927
I was in a cryptography forum
892
00:41:03,929 --> 00:41:06,095
and somebody I'd never met-- who was anonymously
893
00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:07,597
in this forum that I was chatting with--
894
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:09,065
sent me 10,000 bitcoins
895
00:41:09,067 --> 00:41:11,267
just as a way to test the system out
896
00:41:11,269 --> 00:41:12,836
and see how it worked,
and I got 'em.
897
00:41:12,838 --> 00:41:14,571
I'm like, "that's cool,
but what can I do with them?"
898
00:41:14,573 --> 00:41:17,040
And he said,
"well, nothing yet, but...
899
00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:19,442
If people believe
it has value, it will."
900
00:41:19,444 --> 00:41:22,412
At the time, there was really only one bitcoin exchange
901
00:41:22,414 --> 00:41:25,014
it was mt. Gox. I said, "we need an alternative.
902
00:41:25,016 --> 00:41:27,016
Who cares if the technology
is decentralized
903
00:41:27,018 --> 00:41:28,551
and the method of transfer
is decentralized
904
00:41:28,553 --> 00:41:30,186
and the people are
decentralized
905
00:41:30,188 --> 00:41:32,155
if all the trades are
in the same location?"
906
00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:34,657
I thought that building another exchange
907
00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:36,092
to give more people access to bitcoin
908
00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:39,028
would be a key part of bitcoin's growth.
909
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:42,098
The day we launched,
we got a quarter-million
dollars in from user deposits.
910
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,368
And we said,
"oh shit, this is--
this is real.
911
00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:46,569
Yeah.
912
00:41:47,605 --> 00:41:49,072
Hey.
913
00:41:50,941 --> 00:41:53,009
We're all fans
of "the big lebowski,"
914
00:41:53,011 --> 00:41:55,445
so we're gonna have
a "big lebowski" party.
915
00:41:55,447 --> 00:41:56,980
Nice!
916
00:41:58,616 --> 00:42:02,085
It's a...
Very exciting day.
917
00:42:02,087 --> 00:42:05,855
30 gallons of white Russian and hallway bowling.
918
00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:09,225
Yeah!
919
00:42:09,227 --> 00:42:11,594
We work hard, but we party hard too.
920
00:42:11,596 --> 00:42:14,163
Okay.
Okay, I'm good.
921
00:42:14,165 --> 00:42:16,266
- All right.
- I'm good. I'm not dead.
922
00:42:21,872 --> 00:42:23,673
Yeah, I'm
the first one
in the house...
923
00:42:25,042 --> 00:42:27,844
That opened
a tradehill account.
924
00:42:51,802 --> 00:42:53,403
What happened?
925
00:42:55,873 --> 00:42:57,574
In the same day
they went down to 90--
926
00:42:57,576 --> 00:43:00,710
$65 or something,
or $90 a bitcoin.
927
00:43:00,712 --> 00:43:03,947
I stopped smiling.
928
00:43:12,356 --> 00:43:15,024
Tradehill, round two, we optimized for success.
929
00:43:15,026 --> 00:43:16,993
We launched expecting to have to do
930
00:43:16,995 --> 00:43:18,795
hundreds of thousands
of transactions a second.
931
00:43:20,397 --> 00:43:22,599
Right now we've got about 15 people
932
00:43:22,601 --> 00:43:25,535
in addition to that, we've got about eight attorneys externally.
933
00:43:25,537 --> 00:43:27,737
A lot of people are
depositing dollars.
934
00:43:27,739 --> 00:43:29,706
A lot of people
are depositing bitcoin.
We're getting more trading.
935
00:43:29,708 --> 00:43:31,608
We're pushing that
from a business perspective.
936
00:43:31,610 --> 00:43:33,276
Also, we're talking to people
937
00:43:33,278 --> 00:43:35,678
who want to do more automated trading on our platform.
938
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,747
Get robots trading
against each other.
939
00:43:37,749 --> 00:43:39,082
We've stress tested this
940
00:43:39,084 --> 00:43:43,419
and we can handle about
500 times as much volume
941
00:43:43,421 --> 00:43:45,054
as mt. Gox was seeing.
942
00:43:45,056 --> 00:43:46,956
So we'll see
what happens here.
943
00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:49,892
The interest in us
is pretty crazy.
944
00:43:49,894 --> 00:43:52,729
Just the news with bitcoin
945
00:43:52,731 --> 00:43:55,398
has really kind of validated everything.
946
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Now people are like,
"oh, you're not this
crazy person
947
00:43:57,602 --> 00:43:59,736
talking about some
digital made-up currency."
948
00:43:59,738 --> 00:44:02,605
It's like,
"oh, I've read about it
in 'the wall street journal'
949
00:44:02,607 --> 00:44:04,273
and 'the New York times.'
It's real."
950
00:44:04,275 --> 00:44:06,409
We had an investor come in
951
00:44:06,411 --> 00:44:08,311
and he said, "hey, I really appreciate
952
00:44:08,313 --> 00:44:10,647
your scrappy nature and how you're hustling,
953
00:44:10,649 --> 00:44:13,383
but I think it's time
for you guys to spend
30 grand a month on rent.
954
00:44:13,385 --> 00:44:15,985
When you have
a billionaire client
955
00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:17,387
and they want to come
check out your office
956
00:44:17,389 --> 00:44:19,589
before they send you
a multi-million dollar wire,
957
00:44:19,591 --> 00:44:21,691
asking them
to walk past pawn shops
958
00:44:21,693 --> 00:44:23,660
- is not always the right feel.
959
00:44:27,731 --> 00:44:30,667
So we're leaving
the mission. We're driving
into soma right now.
960
00:44:30,669 --> 00:44:34,504
We're gonna go
take a look at what
may be our new office space
961
00:44:34,506 --> 00:44:36,906
pretty prestigious address--
one market.
962
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,248
Right now we're trying to forge this path,
963
00:44:45,250 --> 00:44:47,417
and we're trying to comply with existing laws
964
00:44:47,419 --> 00:44:49,018
and anticipate future laws,
965
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:52,255
which is extremely expensive and extremely difficult.
966
00:44:52,257 --> 00:44:53,690
- Is there parking here?
- Yes.
967
00:44:53,692 --> 00:44:55,224
Okay, is that
included with--
968
00:44:55,226 --> 00:44:57,160
Of course.
969
00:44:57,162 --> 00:44:59,562
- Right, what does that--
how much does--
970
00:44:59,564 --> 00:45:00,596
How much does that cost?
971
00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:04,333
That's not terrible.
972
00:45:05,903 --> 00:45:07,437
Whoa.
973
00:45:07,439 --> 00:45:09,338
That's pretty sexy.
974
00:45:12,009 --> 00:45:13,676
Twitter was here
for over a year.
975
00:45:13,678 --> 00:45:16,145
- Yeah.
- Amazon comes and go
every single year.
976
00:45:16,147 --> 00:45:18,381
- Oh, fantastic.
- I have Macy's, I have
j.C. Penney.
977
00:45:18,383 --> 00:45:20,349
All the big ones,
they come over.
978
00:45:20,351 --> 00:45:21,084
They are part
of the club.
979
00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:28,224
- Sounds good.
- We'll be here tomorrow.
980
00:45:28,226 --> 00:45:29,325
- Picking it up.
- Thank you for the business.
981
00:45:29,327 --> 00:45:30,259
- Thank you.
- I appreciate it.
982
00:45:30,261 --> 00:45:32,161
Thanks so much.
983
00:45:32,163 --> 00:45:33,830
- We move in tomorrow.
- Just like--
984
00:45:33,832 --> 00:45:35,398
- just like that, huh?
- Just like that.
985
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,933
- That's how we roll.
- It's pretty surprising
986
00:45:36,935 --> 00:45:38,234
that that deal just happened so quickly.
987
00:45:38,236 --> 00:45:39,836
What was it? You just liked the space
988
00:45:39,838 --> 00:45:40,970
and decided, "hey, there's no point in waiting"?
989
00:45:40,972 --> 00:45:43,039
We like the space,
we like the address.
990
00:45:43,041 --> 00:45:44,741
We just don't have
the time to spend either.
991
00:45:44,743 --> 00:45:46,342
We've got all kinds
of important stuff
we're working on
992
00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:49,011
and if we spend a week
trying to find an office,
993
00:45:49,013 --> 00:45:50,780
and he and I put
20 hours into it
994
00:45:50,782 --> 00:45:53,049
or 50 hours into it,
it's a huge waste of time.
995
00:46:11,869 --> 00:46:14,670
I thought they'd be
in multiple bags
996
00:46:14,672 --> 00:46:16,739
rather than one big one,
but hey...
997
00:46:22,479 --> 00:46:26,015
I believe that bitcoinwill do to the banking industry
998
00:46:26,017 --> 00:46:27,650
what email did
to the postal service.
999
00:46:28,685 --> 00:46:30,253
It didn't make it irrelevant,
1000
00:46:30,255 --> 00:46:32,889
what it's forced the post office to do
1001
00:46:32,891 --> 00:46:34,757
is concentrate on their strengths
1002
00:46:34,759 --> 00:46:37,593
and less so
on their weaknesses.
1003
00:46:37,595 --> 00:46:39,662
Mike Caldwell is the creator
1004
00:46:39,664 --> 00:46:40,730
of physical bitcoins,
1005
00:46:40,732 --> 00:46:42,732
known as casascius coins.
1006
00:46:42,734 --> 00:46:44,267
They're often featured
1007
00:46:44,269 --> 00:46:46,602
in mainstream media coverage of bitcoin.
1008
00:46:46,604 --> 00:46:48,404
They're a novelty item,
1009
00:46:48,406 --> 00:46:50,106
collectables that basically act
1010
00:46:50,108 --> 00:46:52,608
as physical carriers for bitcoins.
1011
00:46:52,610 --> 00:46:54,577
But they do something very important.
1012
00:46:54,579 --> 00:46:57,413
They give bitcoin a face.
1013
00:46:57,415 --> 00:46:59,115
Come on in.
1014
00:47:01,752 --> 00:47:03,186
Sorry, the kids
are sleeping,
1015
00:47:03,188 --> 00:47:06,122
so I'm just being quiet
so we don't-- you know.
1016
00:47:06,124 --> 00:47:09,158
Each coin has its own bitcoin address.
1017
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,060
And the private key required to spend it
1018
00:47:11,062 --> 00:47:13,229
is hidden underneath the hologram.
1019
00:47:13,231 --> 00:47:15,398
This is where you make
the physical bitcoin.
1020
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,067
Yeah. It's a random
smattering of things,
1021
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:20,236
but I'm pretty careful
about the way I manage--
1022
00:47:20,238 --> 00:47:21,404
you know, the--
1023
00:47:21,406 --> 00:47:23,406
basically,
this is the credentials.
1024
00:47:23,408 --> 00:47:26,342
This is the hologram
and the private keys.
1025
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:28,511
I'm pretty careful
about those and don't
keep them here.
1026
00:47:28,513 --> 00:47:30,546
I normally do them
on this mirror
1027
00:47:30,548 --> 00:47:34,183
'cause that helps me get
the fronts and backs right.
1028
00:47:34,185 --> 00:47:37,553
There's so many things that cryptography can do for us,
1029
00:47:37,555 --> 00:47:39,722
that if the world
just knew,
1030
00:47:39,724 --> 00:47:42,592
so many social problems could be solved.
1031
00:47:42,594 --> 00:47:46,963
Cryptography can bring
fairness to elections.
1032
00:47:46,965 --> 00:47:49,966
It's too difficult for people to understand
1033
00:47:49,968 --> 00:47:53,069
and someone needs to bridge the gap.
1034
00:47:53,071 --> 00:47:56,339
Right now we're using bitcoin to send money.
1035
00:47:56,341 --> 00:47:59,175
But many believe it will revolutionize much more.
1036
00:47:59,177 --> 00:48:02,011
The technology behind bitcoin
1037
00:48:02,013 --> 00:48:04,513
can be used to build decentralized systems
1038
00:48:04,515 --> 00:48:06,582
with rules that can't be cheated.
1039
00:48:13,023 --> 00:48:15,324
Now see, this is
my wife and my space.
1040
00:48:15,326 --> 00:48:16,993
- This is, you know--
- awesome.
1041
00:48:16,995 --> 00:48:18,661
It is what it is.
1042
00:48:18,663 --> 00:48:19,896
The more time goes by,
1043
00:48:19,898 --> 00:48:21,397
the more legitimate bitcoin gets
1044
00:48:21,399 --> 00:48:23,666
and the more proud I am to be associated with it.
1045
00:48:23,668 --> 00:48:25,468
Now what does
your wife do?
1046
00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:27,136
She does crafts.
1047
00:48:27,138 --> 00:48:28,671
She's a lot like me.
1048
00:48:28,673 --> 00:48:30,306
We just sit around
and make things all day.
1049
00:48:30,308 --> 00:48:32,575
It's just our obsession.
1050
00:48:32,577 --> 00:48:35,044
No, I'm not a drug dealer.
No, I'm not a criminal.
1051
00:48:35,046 --> 00:48:36,812
No, I'm not a terrorist.
1052
00:48:36,814 --> 00:48:38,180
I believe in the rule of law.
1053
00:48:38,182 --> 00:48:40,082
I believe in structure
that builds society.
1054
00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:41,384
I believe in families.
1055
00:48:41,386 --> 00:48:42,919
I believe in corporations.
1056
00:48:42,921 --> 00:48:45,655
I believe in all the essential elements
1057
00:48:45,657 --> 00:48:48,691
that a civilized society
with law and order
1058
00:48:48,693 --> 00:48:50,426
need to be able
to function.
1059
00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:52,528
Focal length matters.
1060
00:48:54,565 --> 00:48:57,500
Cryptography is the basis
1061
00:48:57,502 --> 00:49:00,136
for us being able
to implement the values
we say we believe in.
1062
00:49:03,974 --> 00:49:05,675
This idea will never die,
1063
00:49:05,677 --> 00:49:09,712
the technology that bitcoin brought to the forefront.
1064
00:49:09,714 --> 00:49:11,013
The genie is
out of the bottle.
1065
00:49:22,693 --> 00:49:24,660
Since the crash, the bitcoin price
1066
00:49:24,662 --> 00:49:26,762
has been hovering around $100.
1067
00:49:28,165 --> 00:49:30,466
Bitcoins seem to have weathered the storm,
1068
00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:33,803
but there's still much controversy surrounding the currency.
1069
00:49:33,805 --> 00:49:36,906
The same cryptography that insures a user's privacy
1070
00:49:36,908 --> 00:49:39,642
also allows it to be used anonymously.
1071
00:49:48,819 --> 00:49:51,153
My father decided to retire
1072
00:49:51,155 --> 00:49:53,255
and he had an old failing print shop.
1073
00:49:53,257 --> 00:49:54,924
I basically took it over
1074
00:49:54,926 --> 00:49:56,425
and I converted it into an Internet place.
1075
00:49:58,061 --> 00:49:59,161
We're the only place
in L.A.
1076
00:49:59,163 --> 00:50:00,496
That supports
bitcoin right now.
1077
00:50:07,237 --> 00:50:09,772
This is
my linux system here.
1078
00:50:09,774 --> 00:50:13,342
It's a system that
also mines for bitcoins.
1079
00:50:13,344 --> 00:50:15,611
Makes about a dollar a day. I just do it for fun.
1080
00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:18,848
I was really really
into the Internet,
1081
00:50:18,850 --> 00:50:22,251
literally in 1990,
1991, 1992,
1082
00:50:22,253 --> 00:50:24,353
and I had
the hardest time describing
1083
00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:26,522
what the Internet was
to people.
1084
00:50:26,524 --> 00:50:28,824
I would tell people, "well, it's like this network of computers.
1085
00:50:28,826 --> 00:50:31,060
And the network
of computers
1086
00:50:31,062 --> 00:50:32,995
can talk with other
networks of computers
1087
00:50:32,997 --> 00:50:34,997
and then you could
exchange information."
1088
00:50:34,999 --> 00:50:37,333
And people would have
no idea what it was.
1089
00:50:37,335 --> 00:50:40,669
- When people ask me what bitcoin is
1090
00:50:40,671 --> 00:50:42,905
I have the hardest time describing what it is.
1091
00:50:42,907 --> 00:50:46,042
And I'd surmise it as, "it's basically money.
1092
00:50:46,044 --> 00:50:47,643
It's basically an anonymous PayPal.
1093
00:50:49,212 --> 00:50:51,347
It's one of those things that you have to use
1094
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:52,882
before you understand.
1095
00:50:54,384 --> 00:50:56,252
Politically, I'm not a very big fan
1096
00:50:56,254 --> 00:50:58,788
of either the banks or federal reserve,
1097
00:50:58,790 --> 00:51:00,990
and bitcoin allows me
to get around that.
1098
00:51:00,992 --> 00:51:04,193
One of the programs we support
is a protocol called "Tor."
1099
00:51:04,195 --> 00:51:07,229
And basically what Tor does is
it allows you to communicate
1100
00:51:07,231 --> 00:51:09,165
to a website anonymously.
1101
00:51:09,167 --> 00:51:11,233
Tor is a program that allows you to get on the silk road.
1102
00:51:12,569 --> 00:51:14,070
And this is silk road.
1103
00:51:14,072 --> 00:51:17,406
Basically, any drug you want is available.
1104
00:51:17,408 --> 00:51:19,675
There's a lot of weed.
There's a lot of cocaine.
1105
00:51:19,677 --> 00:51:20,976
There's a lot of ecstasy.
1106
00:51:20,978 --> 00:51:22,978
But there's also unusual drugs,
1107
00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:24,580
like if you want some sort
of anabolic steroid,
1108
00:51:24,582 --> 00:51:26,816
you can type "steroid."
1109
00:51:26,818 --> 00:51:28,250
You'll get
all the different types
1110
00:51:28,252 --> 00:51:30,019
of steroids that are available.
1111
00:51:30,021 --> 00:51:32,321
Silk road itself is
not selling the drugs.
1112
00:51:32,323 --> 00:51:34,090
This is basically a matchmaker
1113
00:51:34,092 --> 00:51:35,658
between buyer and seller.
1114
00:51:35,660 --> 00:51:37,393
Both the buyer and seller
don't know each other.
1115
00:51:37,395 --> 00:51:39,528
Both the buyer
and seller are anonymous.
1116
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:41,897
It goes on this web of trust.
1117
00:51:41,899 --> 00:51:44,633
If you want to, let's say,
buy this testosterone,
1118
00:51:44,635 --> 00:51:46,235
you'd click on this.
1119
00:51:47,971 --> 00:51:49,905
He has
99.3 positive feedback
1120
00:51:49,907 --> 00:51:52,408
from more
than 300 transactions.
1121
00:51:52,410 --> 00:51:55,511
So even though the contracts
aren't enforceable by law,
1122
00:51:55,513 --> 00:51:57,680
the reputation system
makes it so that
1123
00:51:57,682 --> 00:52:00,249
the system works
pretty well.
1124
00:52:00,251 --> 00:52:02,318
Oh, there's
a fireworks section now.
I didn't know that.
1125
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:07,156
Florida I.D., 1.88 bitcoins,
1126
00:52:07,158 --> 00:52:10,559
which is around $150,
something like that.
1127
00:52:10,561 --> 00:52:12,962
A forged auto insurance card,
1128
00:52:12,964 --> 00:52:15,664
forged passport.
1129
00:52:15,666 --> 00:52:17,733
There is over
9,000 entries for drugs.
1130
00:52:19,469 --> 00:52:20,669
That's a lot.
1131
00:52:22,672 --> 00:52:24,273
I would say there's around
maybe five customers
1132
00:52:24,275 --> 00:52:25,875
that know about it
and use it.
1133
00:52:25,877 --> 00:52:27,877
It's a very small percentage
of the people that come in.
1134
00:52:27,879 --> 00:52:29,512
But the people
who do know about it,
1135
00:52:29,514 --> 00:52:31,147
specifically
come here to use it.
1136
00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:36,152
What the customers do with the computers
1137
00:52:36,154 --> 00:52:38,554
is pretty much their business.
1138
00:52:38,556 --> 00:52:40,856
Another day in the office.
1139
00:52:40,858 --> 00:52:43,826
You gonna do
drug dealing of any sort,
1140
00:52:43,828 --> 00:52:45,127
silk road is
the place to go.
1141
00:52:45,129 --> 00:52:48,297
How many people are
selling cannabis right now?
1142
00:52:48,299 --> 00:52:51,534
It looks like 2,011 people are selling cannabis.
1143
00:52:51,536 --> 00:52:53,135
They call me
Mr. bitcoin.
1144
00:52:53,137 --> 00:52:55,004
I probably been dealing drugs
1145
00:52:55,006 --> 00:52:57,540
since I was like 17.
1146
00:52:57,542 --> 00:52:59,909
Right now I'm 26.
1147
00:53:01,411 --> 00:53:03,179
I think of it as a global thing
1148
00:53:03,181 --> 00:53:04,380
when I'm on the computer.
1149
00:53:04,382 --> 00:53:06,916
I'm doing business with the world.
1150
00:53:06,918 --> 00:53:08,517
Let's see,
they have blue dream,
1151
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:11,353
sour diesel,
pineapple thai,
1152
00:53:11,355 --> 00:53:14,390
purple kush,
girl scout cookies.
Purple pays.
1153
00:53:14,392 --> 00:53:16,225
When I first
heard about it,
1154
00:53:16,227 --> 00:53:17,893
I was laughing about it.
It took me a week
1155
00:53:17,895 --> 00:53:19,895
to just even think
about this for real.
1156
00:53:19,897 --> 00:53:21,830
"I can really make money
off the Internet?
1157
00:53:21,832 --> 00:53:23,832
Selling this type
of stuff on the Internet?
You sure about that?"
1158
00:53:26,036 --> 00:53:28,170
This something I probably
may buy right here.
1159
00:53:28,172 --> 00:53:31,307
They have looks like some good kush.
1160
00:53:31,309 --> 00:53:33,809
And some of these things only take a day to get here
1161
00:53:33,811 --> 00:53:35,811
with no harassment from nobody
1162
00:53:35,813 --> 00:53:37,513
instead of just being
on the streets.
1163
00:53:37,515 --> 00:53:39,415
Once you get the hang of it, it's actually kinda fun
1164
00:53:39,417 --> 00:53:40,950
just looking through different things.
1165
00:53:42,552 --> 00:53:44,853
"Mr. bitcoin."
I'm running with it.
1166
00:53:44,855 --> 00:53:46,355
I like the name.
You know what I mean?
1167
00:53:46,357 --> 00:53:48,190
I'm not gonna lie.
I get Booty off this.
1168
00:53:48,192 --> 00:53:50,025
I kinda like talking
about this stuff with girls.
1169
00:53:50,027 --> 00:53:52,161
Girls like that shit hot.
1170
00:53:52,163 --> 00:53:55,364
"Oh, you're street, and you got
a little nerd knowledge?
1171
00:53:55,366 --> 00:53:56,966
This is great."
1172
00:53:58,368 --> 00:54:00,402
I have a lot of bitcoins saved up already.
1173
00:54:00,404 --> 00:54:02,404
My business is doing good.
1174
00:54:02,406 --> 00:54:05,307
It's a fun way of doing
hustling these days.
1175
00:54:05,309 --> 00:54:07,343
The future brung
a different way to hustle
1176
00:54:07,345 --> 00:54:08,811
and I like it.
1177
00:54:22,058 --> 00:54:24,026
With so many people using bitcoin
1178
00:54:24,028 --> 00:54:25,828
in so many different ways,
1179
00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:28,230
it's becoming apparent that it can't be ignored.
1180
00:54:32,902 --> 00:54:34,403
- Let me see
your driver's license.
- Oh sure.
1181
00:54:34,405 --> 00:54:37,139
This stays at the desk
until you leave the building.
1182
00:54:37,141 --> 00:54:39,174
Today I'm visiting fincen,
1183
00:54:39,176 --> 00:54:41,377
a bureau of the U.S. department of the treasury.
1184
00:54:41,379 --> 00:54:45,080
Despite having released guidance on virtual currencies,
1185
00:54:45,082 --> 00:54:47,549
there's still a lot of uncertainty surrounding their outlook
1186
00:54:47,551 --> 00:54:49,718
on the future of bitcoin regulation.
1187
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,321
Straight ahead
and in the big
fishbowl-looking--
1188
00:54:52,323 --> 00:54:54,356
okay, great.
1189
00:54:56,994 --> 00:54:58,494
I'm not gonna say
we're gonna have
1190
00:54:58,496 --> 00:54:59,828
every answer
for you today,
1191
00:54:59,830 --> 00:55:02,064
but I mean...
1192
00:55:24,220 --> 00:55:26,422
Oh yeah.
1193
00:55:30,193 --> 00:55:32,194
Jennifer shasky calvery came onboard
1194
00:55:32,196 --> 00:55:34,463
as fincen's director last year.
1195
00:55:34,465 --> 00:55:36,865
During her career, she spent 15 years
1196
00:55:36,867 --> 00:55:38,667
at the department of justice
1197
00:55:38,669 --> 00:55:40,469
where she specialized in fighting money laundering
1198
00:55:40,471 --> 00:55:42,204
and organized crime.
1199
00:55:42,206 --> 00:55:43,672
Virtual currencies
have been on my radar
1200
00:55:43,674 --> 00:55:45,641
for a while,
even prior to coming
1201
00:55:45,643 --> 00:55:48,877
to this position,
because of,
1202
00:55:48,879 --> 00:55:51,313
unfortunately, the abuse
of some of them.
1203
00:55:51,315 --> 00:55:53,048
Bitcoin,
on the other hand,
1204
00:55:53,050 --> 00:55:55,984
is one that really
didn't come on my radar
1205
00:55:55,986 --> 00:55:57,886
probably until
I arrived at fincen.
1206
00:55:57,888 --> 00:55:59,888
Depending on who you speak to,
1207
00:55:59,890 --> 00:56:01,390
the issuance of our guidance was
1208
00:56:01,392 --> 00:56:03,892
either the best thing
that ever happened to bitcoin
1209
00:56:03,894 --> 00:56:06,061
or the worst thing that
ever happened to bitcoin.
1210
00:56:06,063 --> 00:56:08,697
Some accusing us of trying to kill bitcoin
1211
00:56:08,699 --> 00:56:11,667
and others saying that it somehow legitimized it.
1212
00:56:11,669 --> 00:56:15,337
Of course, neither
of those things I think
is probably true.
1213
00:56:15,339 --> 00:56:17,706
And certainly
neither of those things
was our intent.
1214
00:56:17,708 --> 00:56:21,210
One of the clear lines is that if you're a consumer
1215
00:56:21,212 --> 00:56:24,146
who's using bitcoins to buy goods and services,
1216
00:56:24,148 --> 00:56:26,081
the guidance doesn't pertain to you.
1217
00:56:26,083 --> 00:56:29,017
We're focused more
on the places where we think
1218
00:56:29,019 --> 00:56:32,054
we have risks
to the U.S. financial system
1219
00:56:32,056 --> 00:56:33,889
from money laundering
and terrorist financing.
1220
00:56:33,891 --> 00:56:35,991
And I think
that might be kind of--
1221
00:56:35,993 --> 00:56:39,428
a lot of the bitcoin community
has a little bit of a fear
1222
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:42,464
that bitcoin
may be characterized
1223
00:56:42,466 --> 00:56:46,368
in a way so as to tie it
to some bad actor ruining it
for everyone,
1224
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:48,404
when a lot of people that are interested in bitcoin,
1225
00:56:48,406 --> 00:56:52,107
including myself, see it
as just this technology
that we don't--
1226
00:56:52,109 --> 00:56:54,143
really don't wanna
see it falling
1227
00:56:54,145 --> 00:56:56,044
into the wrong
categorization
1228
00:56:56,046 --> 00:56:58,280
with all the potential
that's there.
1229
00:56:58,282 --> 00:57:02,484
Sure. So that innovation
around bitcoin
1230
00:57:02,486 --> 00:57:05,154
and the virtual economy
1231
00:57:05,156 --> 00:57:08,524
is really one of the more
interesting aspects,
1232
00:57:08,526 --> 00:57:10,859
I think, of this story--
the idea that
1233
00:57:10,861 --> 00:57:14,163
it can be used to potentially serve
1234
00:57:14,165 --> 00:57:15,964
the unbanked out there,
1235
00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:18,567
just to provide some really new services
1236
00:57:18,569 --> 00:57:20,602
that are convenient for consumers.
1237
00:57:20,604 --> 00:57:22,004
The flip side of it
though
1238
00:57:22,006 --> 00:57:24,506
is that to be a part
of the financial system--
1239
00:57:24,508 --> 00:57:27,810
the U.S. financial system,
the global financial system--
1240
00:57:27,812 --> 00:57:29,711
also comes
with some responsibilities.
1241
00:57:29,713 --> 00:57:32,347
And those
responsibilities include
1242
00:57:32,349 --> 00:57:35,617
not allowing your institution to be used
1243
00:57:35,619 --> 00:57:39,621
by criminals
and by terrorists.
1244
00:57:44,627 --> 00:57:46,195
There's always been a concern
1245
00:57:46,197 --> 00:57:48,464
that the government might try to stamp out bitcoin.
1246
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,435
But perhaps they see the risk of being left behind.
1247
00:57:58,174 --> 00:58:01,276
In may 2013, the biggest gathering to-date
1248
00:58:01,278 --> 00:58:03,512
of bitcoin enthusiasts and entrepreneurs
1249
00:58:03,514 --> 00:58:05,781
happened in San Jose, California.
1250
00:58:05,783 --> 00:58:07,850
We're at bitcoin 2013.
1251
00:58:07,852 --> 00:58:10,786
It's the inaugural conference
of the bitcoin foundation.
1252
00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:16,825
Bitcoin is worldwideand the vast majority of people
1253
00:58:16,827 --> 00:58:19,194
haven't even heard
of bitcoin yet.
1254
00:58:19,196 --> 00:58:21,830
It's more powerful
than every computer
1255
00:58:21,832 --> 00:58:23,565
on the top-500 list
combined.
1256
00:58:25,668 --> 00:58:27,002
It's an awfully
big world,
1257
00:58:27,004 --> 00:58:29,104
an awful lot
of things
could happen.
1258
00:58:29,106 --> 00:58:32,040
Really, we've been on a roller-coaster ride
1259
00:58:32,042 --> 00:58:35,177
and I expect, at least for the next few years,
1260
00:58:35,179 --> 00:58:37,746
we're gonna remain on a roller-coaster ride.
1261
00:58:37,748 --> 00:58:40,249
I happen to enjoy
roller coasters.
1262
00:58:40,251 --> 00:58:42,084
I think they're fun.
1263
00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:44,620
Just a few weeks earlier
1264
00:58:44,622 --> 00:58:46,255
Cameron and Tyler winklevoss,
1265
00:58:46,257 --> 00:58:48,257
known for their involvement in Facebook,
1266
00:58:48,259 --> 00:58:50,192
announce that they own a 1% stake
1267
00:58:50,194 --> 00:58:51,994
of all bitcoins in existence.
1268
00:58:51,996 --> 00:58:54,096
Worth around $11 million.
1269
00:58:54,098 --> 00:58:56,698
- How's it going? How are you?
- Nice to meet you.
1270
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,668
They also made a $1.5 million investment
1271
00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:01,837
in Charlie's company, bitinstant.
1272
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:04,339
We started looking
seriously at it
1273
00:59:04,341 --> 00:59:05,874
at the end
of last summer
1274
00:59:05,876 --> 00:59:08,510
and started purchasing
around that time.
1275
00:59:08,512 --> 00:59:11,179
I think a light bulb just
went off and we said, "wow.
1276
00:59:11,181 --> 00:59:13,515
The implication of this
could be enormous.
1277
00:59:13,517 --> 00:59:15,651
If everyone in the world could have a bitcoin address,
1278
00:59:15,653 --> 00:59:18,620
everyone in the world
could be banked
fairly quickly.
1279
00:59:18,622 --> 00:59:20,522
And when you consider that,
1280
00:59:20,524 --> 00:59:22,357
it's a very powerful idea.
1281
00:59:22,359 --> 00:59:25,160
And bitcoin can
make that happen.
1282
00:59:25,162 --> 00:59:26,395
We're going
all over the world.
1283
00:59:26,397 --> 00:59:27,529
We're going
to the u.K.
1284
00:59:27,531 --> 00:59:28,797
We're going to Australia.
1285
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:30,799
We're going to--
we're already in Russia.
1286
00:59:30,801 --> 00:59:32,868
We're going to South America.
1287
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:34,403
We're already
in Brazil now.
1288
00:59:34,405 --> 00:59:36,538
You can buy bitcoin
at any of our locations.
1289
00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:39,341
It's fun to think that satoshi might be here too.
1290
00:59:39,343 --> 00:59:40,976
I always wonder
if somebody is--
1291
00:59:40,978 --> 00:59:43,345
if someone here
somewhere is...
1292
00:59:43,347 --> 00:59:44,713
- Yes. I was planning--
- ...Standing in
the corner going--
1293
00:59:53,958 --> 00:59:55,157
What would he do?
1294
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:58,493
What talks would he
be attending, you know?
1295
00:59:58,495 --> 01:00:01,163
We're seeing the bitcoin players in the market
1296
01:00:01,165 --> 01:00:02,998
meeting with the venture capitalists
1297
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,700
and they're all beginning to posture
1298
01:00:04,702 --> 01:00:05,801
and that's
very exciting,
1299
01:00:05,803 --> 01:00:07,169
because
it means that
1300
01:00:07,171 --> 01:00:08,470
there's gonna be
a lot more
1301
01:00:08,472 --> 01:00:09,972
infrastructure
built out,
1302
01:00:09,974 --> 01:00:11,673
and lot more money
flowing into the space,
1303
01:00:11,675 --> 01:00:15,344
and it's really gonna be
a big bull market for bitcoin.
1304
01:00:15,346 --> 01:00:17,679
One of the companies best known for making
1305
01:00:17,681 --> 01:00:21,350
bitcoin accessible for commerce is Atlanta-based bitpay.
1306
01:00:21,352 --> 01:00:23,652
They are pioneers in bitcoin
1307
01:00:23,654 --> 01:00:25,487
and provide a service that enables merchants
1308
01:00:25,489 --> 01:00:26,855
to accept bitcoin payments
1309
01:00:26,857 --> 01:00:29,191
without dealing with its complexities.
1310
01:00:29,193 --> 01:00:30,993
We've grown about
a factor of 10
1311
01:00:30,995 --> 01:00:33,161
since the beginning
of the year.
1312
01:00:33,163 --> 01:00:34,830
We were doing about half
a million dollars a month...
1313
01:00:34,832 --> 01:00:36,198
- Yeah.
- ...Around the turn
of the year,
1314
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,000
and now we're doing
about $5 million a month.
1315
01:00:38,002 --> 01:00:41,269
This is people using bitcoinsto buy real goods and services.
1316
01:00:41,271 --> 01:00:42,871
They're not day trading. They're not exchanging.
1317
01:00:42,873 --> 01:00:44,272
They're actually
buying things.
1318
01:00:44,274 --> 01:00:47,309
I'm confident that bitcoin is
the most important invention
1319
01:00:47,311 --> 01:00:49,044
in the entire history
of the world since the Internet.
1320
01:00:49,046 --> 01:00:50,879
Roger ver is an investor
1321
01:00:50,881 --> 01:00:52,514
in several early bitcoin companies,
1322
01:00:52,516 --> 01:00:54,216
including bitpay.
1323
01:00:54,218 --> 01:00:55,984
His passion and enthusiasm
1324
01:00:55,986 --> 01:00:58,687
has earned him the nickname "bitcoin Jesus."
1325
01:00:58,689 --> 01:01:00,155
It is going to change everything.
1326
01:01:00,157 --> 01:01:01,490
And all of you here
in this room
1327
01:01:01,492 --> 01:01:03,492
you're at the very
very forefront of that.
1328
01:01:06,997 --> 01:01:09,131
Roger lives in Tokyo
1329
01:01:09,133 --> 01:01:12,367
but travels the earth, spreading the good word of bitcoin.
1330
01:01:12,369 --> 01:01:14,369
The last couple of days we've been setting up
1331
01:01:14,371 --> 01:01:16,705
a business per day to accept bitcoin here in the bay area.
1332
01:01:16,707 --> 01:01:18,006
Today's business is going to be
1333
01:01:18,008 --> 01:01:20,008
this super kyo-po Korean supermarket.
1334
01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:23,011
So for you-- you accept
credit cards right now?
1335
01:01:23,013 --> 01:01:25,347
- Right.
- The credit card companies
are charging you 2% or 3%?
1336
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:27,382
- Right.
- For bitcoin,
you can do the same thing,
1337
01:01:27,384 --> 01:01:28,950
but they'll
only charge you 1%
1338
01:01:28,952 --> 01:01:30,886
and you'll still get dollars
in your bank account.
1339
01:01:30,888 --> 01:01:32,387
If you want,
you can choose to split
1340
01:01:32,389 --> 01:01:34,156
some of the payments
that you receive
1341
01:01:34,158 --> 01:01:36,191
into bitcoins
and then some into dollars
1342
01:01:36,193 --> 01:01:38,760
in whatever ratio you want,
so you can keep 99% in dollars
1343
01:01:38,762 --> 01:01:41,930
and 1% in bitcoin or 99%
in bitcoin and 1% in dollars.
1344
01:01:41,932 --> 01:01:43,699
- Okay.
- However you want.
You can decide that.
1345
01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:46,768
Roger is describing the service
1346
01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:48,403
provided by bitpay.
1347
01:01:48,405 --> 01:01:50,839
They take the volatility of bitcoin's price
1348
01:01:50,841 --> 01:01:52,607
out of the equation for merchants
1349
01:01:52,609 --> 01:01:54,676
by immediately converting bitcoins to dollars
1350
01:01:54,678 --> 01:01:56,078
at the time of sale.
1351
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,113
So right now we have
it set to 100% dollars,
1352
01:01:58,115 --> 01:02:00,248
so anybody that
pays here with bitcoin,
1353
01:02:00,250 --> 01:02:01,850
they'll deposit the money
into your bank account
1354
01:02:01,852 --> 01:02:04,152
the very next day
with only a 1% fee.
1355
01:02:04,154 --> 01:02:05,687
And I guarantee you
over the next couple of weeks
1356
01:02:05,689 --> 01:02:07,022
you'll have
lots of computer nerds
1357
01:02:07,024 --> 01:02:08,990
that love bitcoins
will be coming in here
1358
01:02:08,992 --> 01:02:10,992
specifically to shop
at your supermarket,
1359
01:02:10,994 --> 01:02:12,094
so that they can pay
with bitcoin.
1360
01:02:14,297 --> 01:02:17,199
The credit card companies,
just for processing the payment,
1361
01:02:17,201 --> 01:02:19,534
they take anywhere from...
1362
01:02:19,536 --> 01:02:22,637
1.5% to over 3%
1363
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:24,840
and then on certain cards
1364
01:02:24,842 --> 01:02:26,641
there's even
a per-transaction fee,
1365
01:02:26,643 --> 01:02:28,844
like 20¢ per transaction
1366
01:02:28,846 --> 01:02:31,012
plus the percentage
of the transaction.
1367
01:02:33,983 --> 01:02:36,017
...$11,000, $12,000 a month
1368
01:02:36,019 --> 01:02:39,454
on the average
that they just take
right out of our account.
1369
01:02:39,456 --> 01:02:40,622
I honestly think that
1370
01:02:40,624 --> 01:02:41,723
there's a really good chance
1371
01:02:41,725 --> 01:02:43,458
that bitcoins will be
more than $1,000
1372
01:02:43,460 --> 01:02:45,627
by the end of the year,
because everybody who
hears about--
1373
01:02:45,629 --> 01:02:47,729
"wait, I can send money
to and from anyone I want?"
1374
01:02:47,731 --> 01:02:50,465
It's impossible for anyone
to freeze your account,
1375
01:02:50,467 --> 01:02:53,568
it's impossible for anyone
to block you from sending
or receiving these bitcoins.
1376
01:02:53,570 --> 01:02:55,403
...Euros, so you can see
1377
01:02:55,405 --> 01:02:57,739
all these different currency
exchanges around the world
1378
01:02:57,741 --> 01:02:59,674
that exchange
to and from bitcoins.
1379
01:02:59,676 --> 01:03:03,178
You can see there's
maybe between 50 and 100
exchanges now.
1380
01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:05,814
When I first heard
about bitcoin and started
telling everybody about it,
1381
01:03:05,816 --> 01:03:07,983
if you looked
at that same page,
there were less than 10.
1382
01:03:07,985 --> 01:03:11,052
And there's no central
office that they could raid
or anything like that?
1383
01:03:11,054 --> 01:03:12,554
There's no central--
it's amazing.
1384
01:03:12,556 --> 01:03:13,855
There's no central office,
1385
01:03:13,857 --> 01:03:15,290
there's no central place they could go to
1386
01:03:15,292 --> 01:03:17,125
and say,
"take Steve's bitcoins,"
1387
01:03:17,127 --> 01:03:19,127
or, "give Steve's
bitcoins to Kevin."
Do this or do that.
1388
01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:20,862
So who's the owner
of bitcoins?
1389
01:03:20,864 --> 01:03:23,498
- Everybody that owns bitcoins?
- Yeah yeah.
1390
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:26,134
Just like who's
the owner of gold?
It's whoever owns some gold.
1391
01:03:26,136 --> 01:03:28,203
Short of shutting down
the entire Internet
1392
01:03:28,205 --> 01:03:30,338
in the entire world,
there's no way to stop bitcoin.
1393
01:03:36,179 --> 01:03:38,213
And hit "request payment."
1394
01:03:38,215 --> 01:03:40,816
And that's the q.R. Code
for your bitcoin address.
1395
01:03:40,818 --> 01:03:42,184
So I'm gonna scan that...
1396
01:03:44,253 --> 01:03:46,321
So now I have your bitcoin
address on my phone.
1397
01:03:46,323 --> 01:03:48,290
I think this is $2,
1398
01:03:48,292 --> 01:03:50,425
so I'm going
to send you $2
1399
01:03:50,427 --> 01:03:51,993
worth of bitcoins.
1400
01:03:56,833 --> 01:03:59,000
There it is.
You just received
that many bitcoins
1401
01:03:59,002 --> 01:04:00,302
from me,
directly with no fee
1402
01:04:00,304 --> 01:04:02,204
and if you hit
the little green square
1403
01:04:02,206 --> 01:04:04,139
it'll show you
the equivalent amount
in U.S. dollars.
1404
01:04:04,141 --> 01:04:06,975
So you just received $2 worth of bitcoins
1405
01:04:06,977 --> 01:04:08,276
directly from my phone to your phone.
1406
01:04:08,278 --> 01:04:10,312
And you can send
money just like that
anywhere in the world.
1407
01:04:10,314 --> 01:04:12,480
You could've told me
your bitcoin address
1408
01:04:12,482 --> 01:04:14,349
by email or posted
on Facebook
1409
01:04:14,351 --> 01:04:16,117
or Twitter or anywhere.
1410
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:18,720
So I could print this
and have it at the register.
1411
01:04:18,722 --> 01:04:21,156
Yeah. Yup, and you can
check right on your phone
1412
01:04:21,158 --> 01:04:22,791
any time that you
received the payment.
1413
01:04:22,793 --> 01:04:24,693
- Okay. Thank you, Steve.
1414
01:04:24,695 --> 01:04:25,994
- All right. Thanks.
- Thank you for the tea.
1415
01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:35,303
One of the newest standouts in the bitcoin space
1416
01:04:35,305 --> 01:04:38,139
is a San Francisco company named coinbase.
1417
01:04:38,141 --> 01:04:40,508
They operate a digital wallet service
1418
01:04:40,510 --> 01:04:44,179
that makes it simple to buy, use and accept bitcoin.
1419
01:04:44,181 --> 01:04:45,947
I would not be surprised at all
1420
01:04:45,949 --> 01:04:47,949
if Google, square, PayPal--
everybody--
1421
01:04:47,951 --> 01:04:49,451
is looking at adding bitcoin
in one or two years.
1422
01:04:49,453 --> 01:04:51,953
By then we need to have 50 million wallets.
1423
01:04:51,955 --> 01:04:53,288
If we can make this easy to use,
1424
01:04:53,290 --> 01:04:55,357
it's gonna be huge.
1425
01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:58,493
My involvement in bitcoin is not politically motivated.
1426
01:04:58,495 --> 01:05:02,764
- Yeah, dude.
People are realizing large capital gains.
1427
01:05:02,766 --> 01:05:05,467
When professional
investors enter the realm,
1428
01:05:05,469 --> 01:05:07,068
the stakes
definitely change.
1429
01:05:07,070 --> 01:05:09,804
We raised $5 million from union square ventures.
1430
01:05:09,806 --> 01:05:11,740
Fred Wilson led the round there.
1431
01:05:11,742 --> 01:05:13,341
I think bitcoin is still
1432
01:05:13,343 --> 01:05:15,977
actually a little bit
under the radar.
1433
01:05:15,979 --> 01:05:20,015
I think it's moved past the stage where people dismiss it,
1434
01:05:20,017 --> 01:05:21,816
but I don't think that it's totally
1435
01:05:21,818 --> 01:05:23,485
gone mainstream either.
1436
01:05:23,487 --> 01:05:26,087
I think we're in that
middle stage right now.
1437
01:05:26,089 --> 01:05:28,089
At the end of the conference,
1438
01:05:28,091 --> 01:05:30,125
jered from tradehill threw a party
1439
01:05:30,127 --> 01:05:32,294
to celebrate how far things had come.
1440
01:05:32,296 --> 01:05:34,296
- You guys
are hot right now.
1441
01:05:34,298 --> 01:05:35,931
- Yup.
- Congratulations
on the raise.
1442
01:05:35,933 --> 01:05:37,499
- Thank you.
- It's good money, man.
1443
01:05:37,501 --> 01:05:39,501
- Swell do.
- Yeah.
1444
01:05:39,503 --> 01:05:43,438
- I mean--
- hopefully it's an advancement
for the community.
1445
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,341
I am completely
pro-compliance.
1446
01:05:46,343 --> 01:05:48,977
I think if you don't want
to attach your identity to this,
1447
01:05:48,979 --> 01:05:52,147
- just can't work with you.
- Yeah, so I thought
I just need to--
1448
01:05:52,149 --> 01:05:54,950
I mean the libertarian side
of me is like, "ehh.
Yeah, whatever,"
1449
01:05:54,952 --> 01:05:57,152
but like,
from a business perspective,
1450
01:05:57,154 --> 01:05:59,554
if people don't play
by the rules,
1451
01:05:59,556 --> 01:06:03,058
- you're not gonna last.
- Yeah, I completely agree.
1452
01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:04,459
- You're gonna just shut down
or you're gonna go to jail.
- Yeah.
1453
01:06:06,162 --> 01:06:08,196
Noticeably absent from the conference
1454
01:06:08,198 --> 01:06:09,798
were representatives of bitcoin's
1455
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,500
biggest exchange, mt. Gox.
1456
01:06:12,502 --> 01:06:15,971
Just days earlier the department of homeland security
1457
01:06:15,973 --> 01:06:18,873
seized more than $5 million from their U.S. accounts.
1458
01:06:20,376 --> 01:06:22,877
The seizure warrant stated that mt. Gox had failed
1459
01:06:22,879 --> 01:06:24,779
to register as a money transmitter,
1460
01:06:24,781 --> 01:06:27,615
putting them in violation of the new fincen guidelines.
1461
01:06:34,090 --> 01:06:37,292
I'm traveling to Tokyo to meet mark karpeles,
1462
01:06:37,294 --> 01:06:39,227
mt. Gox's reclusive c.E.O.
1463
01:06:42,465 --> 01:06:44,165
No bitcoins on here.
1464
01:06:45,167 --> 01:06:47,836
Not yet.
1465
01:06:47,838 --> 01:06:50,138
That will make this completely unnecessary.
1466
01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:51,840
But for now it seems kind of primitive
1467
01:06:51,842 --> 01:06:53,608
that we're exchanging
paper for paper.
1468
01:06:54,978 --> 01:06:58,013
- And losing.
- And losing value.
1469
01:06:58,015 --> 01:07:00,915
Someone's taking a cut.
Someone's taking
a little percent.
1470
01:07:00,917 --> 01:07:04,252
Mark and his business partner gonzague
1471
01:07:04,254 --> 01:07:08,356
are French but they operate mt. Gox from offices in Japan.
1472
01:07:08,358 --> 01:07:12,327
Originally mt. Gox was an exchange for trading cards
1473
01:07:12,329 --> 01:07:15,196
- used in a game called- The gathering."
1474
01:07:15,198 --> 01:07:17,699
M.T.G.O.X. Stood for
1475
01:07:17,701 --> 01:07:20,602
The gathering online exchange."
1476
01:07:20,604 --> 01:07:23,805
In 2011 mark's company tibanne
1477
01:07:23,807 --> 01:07:27,442
bought mt. Gox, and his focus has been bitcoin ever since.
1478
01:07:31,013 --> 01:07:32,981
One of the conditions of my visit
1479
01:07:32,983 --> 01:07:34,349
is to refrain from any discussion
1480
01:07:34,351 --> 01:07:35,784
about the d.H.S. Seizure,
1481
01:07:35,786 --> 01:07:37,519
due to the ongoing investigation.
1482
01:07:39,655 --> 01:07:42,357
We've arrived at mt. Gox.
1483
01:07:42,359 --> 01:07:44,092
This is
mt. Gox right here.
1484
01:07:44,094 --> 01:07:47,362
There's no big sign
or anything, no-- no--
1485
01:07:47,364 --> 01:07:51,699
it doesn't look like
a crazy commercial
establishment.
1486
01:07:51,701 --> 01:07:54,169
Despite their legal problems
1487
01:07:54,171 --> 01:07:57,272
mt. Gox still handles more volume than any other exchange
1488
01:07:57,274 --> 01:07:59,107
and is processing around
1489
01:07:59,109 --> 01:08:02,277
$6 million worth of bitcoin trades every day.
1490
01:08:02,279 --> 01:08:04,846
We had, last year,
an average of 10,000
new customers a month.
1491
01:08:04,848 --> 01:08:06,748
January, it was 20,000.
1492
01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:08,683
Then 30,000, 60,000,
1493
01:08:08,685 --> 01:08:10,351
150,000.
1494
01:08:10,353 --> 01:08:13,054
With what's going on,
we go down,
1495
01:08:13,056 --> 01:08:15,890
but we are reaching
100,000 new customers
1496
01:08:15,892 --> 01:08:17,992
- for may.
- That's amazing.
1497
01:08:17,994 --> 01:08:19,561
- In a month?
- In a month.
1498
01:08:19,563 --> 01:08:20,829
- Wow.
- So it was like this...
1499
01:08:20,831 --> 01:08:21,996
Zip, bup!
1500
01:08:21,998 --> 01:08:23,832
But still,
after what happened
1501
01:08:23,834 --> 01:08:25,800
I thought that a lot
of people will go away
1502
01:08:25,802 --> 01:08:28,736
or don't create
a new account.
1503
01:08:28,738 --> 01:08:30,405
But still,
100,000 new customers
1504
01:08:30,407 --> 01:08:31,806
it's... wow.
1505
01:08:31,808 --> 01:08:33,541
And here we've got
the office.
1506
01:08:42,585 --> 01:08:45,253
Mt. Gox employs 18 people
1507
01:08:45,255 --> 01:08:47,622
not only is mark the c.E.O.,
1508
01:08:47,624 --> 01:08:50,492
he's also the c.F.O., the lead developer
1509
01:08:50,494 --> 01:08:54,162
and performs all technical operations to keep the exchange running.
1510
01:08:55,332 --> 01:08:56,965
- C++.
- C++.
1511
01:08:56,967 --> 01:08:58,633
Is that your main-- is that your main
1512
01:08:58,635 --> 01:08:59,868
- programming language?
- No.
1513
01:08:59,870 --> 01:09:02,203
I've got a lot of main
programming languages.
1514
01:09:02,205 --> 01:09:03,972
Yeah? What's your favorite programming language?
1515
01:09:03,974 --> 01:09:05,540
Really depend
on what I need to do.
1516
01:09:05,542 --> 01:09:06,941
I create a good something
really quick
1517
01:09:06,943 --> 01:09:08,810
and I don't care
about performance,
1518
01:09:08,812 --> 01:09:10,011
I use p.H.P.
1519
01:09:10,013 --> 01:09:11,846
If I care a little bit
about performance,
1520
01:09:11,848 --> 01:09:14,149
I will use c++
with q.T. Available.
1521
01:09:14,151 --> 01:09:17,085
And if I care
a lot about performance,
I will use axum.
1522
01:09:21,524 --> 01:09:23,892
When we go in,
cameras down first,
1523
01:09:23,894 --> 01:09:26,060
- until we get to your servers
and then back up.
- Exactly.
1524
01:09:26,062 --> 01:09:27,562
Okay.
1525
01:09:34,103 --> 01:09:37,939
Getting ready
to go into the mt. Gox
data center location.
1526
01:09:37,941 --> 01:09:39,407
Okay, cameras down.
1527
01:09:43,245 --> 01:09:45,513
We were allowed to snap a few photographs
1528
01:10:22,952 --> 01:10:24,485
If mt. Gox's new trading engine
1529
01:10:24,487 --> 01:10:27,689
can really support 100 million orders per second,
1530
01:10:27,691 --> 01:10:30,758
it should be able to scale with the demands of professional traders.
1531
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,162
But with complex legal problems and increasing competition,
1532
01:10:34,164 --> 01:10:36,364
mark's attention is pulled in many directions.
1533
01:10:47,176 --> 01:10:49,277
Do you work seven days
a week, typically?
1534
01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:51,946
- Yup.
- It seems that you do
1535
01:10:51,948 --> 01:10:53,848
the majority
of all the heavy lifting.
1536
01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:56,751
- Literally.
- Yeah.
1537
01:10:56,753 --> 01:11:00,288
You need to remove
your shoes in the entrance.
1538
01:11:03,292 --> 01:11:05,126
Mark is a talented man
1539
01:11:05,128 --> 01:11:07,428
in one of the world's biggest cities...
1540
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,498
But maybe he should stick to computer keyboards.
1541
01:11:22,478 --> 01:11:24,212
Okay, I messed it up.
1542
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:32,253
- Awesome.
- Yay.
1543
01:11:32,255 --> 01:11:33,655
Yeah.
1544
01:11:49,605 --> 01:11:51,806
Erik voorhees.
We are here in northern New Hampshire
1545
01:11:51,808 --> 01:11:53,508
for the porcupine
freedom festival.
1546
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:55,510
And this is an event
put on each year
1547
01:11:55,512 --> 01:11:56,878
by the free state project.
1548
01:11:58,681 --> 01:12:01,816
Basically it's just a bunch of crazy anarcho-capitalists,
1549
01:12:01,818 --> 01:12:03,751
libertarian types in the woods,
1550
01:12:03,753 --> 01:12:06,120
with freedom and families.
1551
01:12:06,122 --> 01:12:08,890
Pretty much all of the vendors accept bitcoin.
1552
01:12:12,161 --> 01:12:14,262
Ahh!
1553
01:12:14,264 --> 01:12:16,264
It tastes much better
when bought with bitcoin.
1554
01:12:16,266 --> 01:12:17,565
Thanks, guys.
1555
01:12:18,934 --> 01:12:21,602
Soups, salads and smoothies.
1556
01:12:21,604 --> 01:12:23,604
I would say one-third
of our sales
1557
01:12:23,606 --> 01:12:25,306
have been in bitcoin.
1558
01:12:25,308 --> 01:12:27,375
It's 20 bucks.
So you're gonna pay
in bitcoin?
1559
01:12:27,377 --> 01:12:30,111
- Uh, yeah.
- All right.
1560
01:12:30,113 --> 01:12:32,213
Last year was our first year accepting it
1561
01:12:32,215 --> 01:12:35,783
we did maybe 18 transactions,
20 transactions at the most.
1562
01:12:35,785 --> 01:12:37,785
And now we're
up to close to 120.
1563
01:12:49,331 --> 01:12:52,333
This community is really one of the largest groups
1564
01:12:52,335 --> 01:12:54,135
of people in the U.S., I think,
1565
01:12:54,137 --> 01:12:56,971
that is truly adopting bitcoin and using it as a currency,
1566
01:12:56,973 --> 01:12:59,240
because of what it stands forand because of what it enables.
1567
01:13:00,744 --> 01:13:03,144
The world is
seriously changing now
1568
01:13:03,146 --> 01:13:05,747
and it is changing
in a very interesting,
1569
01:13:05,749 --> 01:13:07,949
very radical, decentralized,
1570
01:13:07,951 --> 01:13:09,384
and, in my opinion,
positive direction.
1571
01:13:10,853 --> 01:13:12,787
Shoot.
Here it is.
1572
01:13:12,789 --> 01:13:14,155
"Price breaks
the all-time high."
1573
01:13:15,858 --> 01:13:17,792
Vitalik is only 19 years old,
1574
01:13:17,794 --> 01:13:19,660
but he has a profound understanding
1575
01:13:19,662 --> 01:13:21,262
of the complexities of bitcoin
1576
01:13:21,264 --> 01:13:23,231
and a gift for explaining them.
1577
01:13:23,233 --> 01:13:26,167
As lead writer for "bitcoin magazine,"
1578
01:13:26,169 --> 01:13:29,837
he's been traveling the world, covering bitcoin for the past year.
1579
01:13:29,839 --> 01:13:33,608
I'm a big fan
of the decentralization
concept, in principle.
1580
01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:37,512
You know, have lots--
lots of different societies
1581
01:13:37,514 --> 01:13:41,949
operating according
to whatever people's
own beliefs are.
1582
01:13:41,951 --> 01:13:44,085
Bitcoin has unique properties
1583
01:13:44,087 --> 01:13:46,921
that no other system
in the world has had before.
1584
01:13:46,923 --> 01:13:50,691
It really seems like
the only practical way forward.
1585
01:13:50,693 --> 01:13:53,094
As you move away
from cash
1586
01:13:53,096 --> 01:13:55,663
into your debit cards
and your credit cards,
1587
01:13:55,665 --> 01:13:56,631
you essentially
are giving up
1588
01:13:56,633 --> 01:13:58,433
a certain degree
of your privacy
1589
01:13:58,435 --> 01:14:00,067
without even
really knowing it.
1590
01:14:00,069 --> 01:14:01,769
It's important to understand that bitcoin is not
1591
01:14:01,771 --> 01:14:04,071
automatically,
perfectly anonymous.
1592
01:14:04,073 --> 01:14:07,675
But what it does is it
enables you to be anonymous
if you wish to.
1593
01:14:07,677 --> 01:14:10,578
Erik voorhees is the founder and part owner
1594
01:14:10,580 --> 01:14:12,513
of a hugely popular bitcoin gambling site
1595
01:14:12,515 --> 01:14:13,981
called satoshi dice.
1596
01:14:15,250 --> 01:14:17,485
Satoshi dice is the first of a new breed
1597
01:14:17,487 --> 01:14:18,853
of provably fair betting games
1598
01:14:18,855 --> 01:14:20,421
that use bitcoin.
1599
01:14:20,423 --> 01:14:22,490
Since all bets are public,
1600
01:14:22,492 --> 01:14:25,726
anyone can verify the odds and payouts.
1601
01:14:25,728 --> 01:14:28,463
At its peak, satoshi dice was responsible
1602
01:14:28,465 --> 01:14:30,064
for more bitcoin transactions
1603
01:14:30,066 --> 01:14:33,501
than all other uses of bitcoin combined.
1604
01:14:33,503 --> 01:14:36,537
It played an important role in bitcoin's development
1605
01:14:36,539 --> 01:14:38,372
as one of the first applications
1606
01:14:38,374 --> 01:14:41,309
to really test what the bitcoin network could handle.
1607
01:14:41,311 --> 01:14:45,313
Recently Erik moved his entire operations out of the U.S.
1608
01:14:45,315 --> 01:14:46,948
And into Panama.
1609
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:49,116
He started a company called coinapult
1610
01:14:49,118 --> 01:14:52,386
that lets you send bitcoin via s.M.S. And email.
1611
01:14:52,388 --> 01:14:54,388
I think most people,
1612
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:55,990
at least in America,
1613
01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:59,327
believe that when they put
$1,000 into their bank,
1614
01:14:59,329 --> 01:15:02,563
the bank is holding $1,000
in its vault for them.
1615
01:15:02,565 --> 01:15:06,000
And they don't realize
that 99% of all the dollars
are digital.
1616
01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:08,736
The fact that
we have these tokens
called paper cash
1617
01:15:08,738 --> 01:15:11,672
is the exception
to the rule.
1618
01:15:11,674 --> 01:15:14,775
People see the cash and they think that that's what the money is,
1619
01:15:14,777 --> 01:15:16,944
but it's all digital
and it's been that way
for decades.
1620
01:15:16,946 --> 01:15:18,913
You guys moved
your business to Panama.
1621
01:15:18,915 --> 01:15:20,982
What was the primary driver in that?
1622
01:15:20,984 --> 01:15:22,517
If you're a U.S. company,
1623
01:15:22,519 --> 01:15:25,686
you have to follow
the arcane U.S. regulations
1624
01:15:25,688 --> 01:15:27,421
for all of your customers
around the world.
1625
01:15:27,423 --> 01:15:29,490
So if you do business
with some rural farmer
in Africa,
1626
01:15:29,492 --> 01:15:31,626
you're gonna need to get
his social security number,
1627
01:15:31,628 --> 01:15:33,027
you're gonna need to get
all this information
1628
01:15:33,029 --> 01:15:34,762
that Washington tells you
is important.
1629
01:15:34,764 --> 01:15:36,030
We did not want to have to apply
1630
01:15:36,032 --> 01:15:38,666
the U.S. financial regulatory scheme
1631
01:15:38,668 --> 01:15:41,369
to customers in sub-saharan Africa.
1632
01:15:41,371 --> 01:15:42,803
I don't think the developed world's
1633
01:15:42,805 --> 01:15:45,106
gonna be where bitcoin
really takes off, long-term,
1634
01:15:45,108 --> 01:15:47,208
because our banking system's
worked decently well.
1635
01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:48,809
Many people around the world
1636
01:15:48,811 --> 01:15:50,611
don't have any bank accounts whatsoever.
1637
01:15:50,613 --> 01:15:51,979
Ultimately, those are
the types of people
1638
01:15:51,981 --> 01:15:53,814
who will find
the most value out of bitcoin.
1639
01:15:59,187 --> 01:16:01,088
- One month later- Erik announced
1640
01:16:01,090 --> 01:16:03,958
he had sold satoshi dice to an anonymous investor.
1641
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,593
The price?
1642
01:16:05,595 --> 01:16:09,564
126,315 bitcoins,
1643
01:16:09,566 --> 01:16:13,334
worth around $11.5 million.
1644
01:16:13,336 --> 01:16:16,771
Most of the new
offices in this city
are in this condition,
1645
01:16:16,773 --> 01:16:18,472
all still
what's called "gray."
1646
01:16:18,474 --> 01:16:20,942
Not ready, no Internet,
no electricity-- nothing.
1647
01:16:20,944 --> 01:16:22,910
But we actually got one
that was finished,
1648
01:16:22,912 --> 01:16:25,880
so we moved in and we are super excited about it.
1649
01:16:26,949 --> 01:16:29,050
You can see
all the skyscrapers
1650
01:16:29,052 --> 01:16:31,619
of new banks and everything
getting built up here.
1651
01:16:31,621 --> 01:16:34,589
This is the financial center
for central America.
1652
01:16:34,591 --> 01:16:37,959
So it was fitting
that we establish
ourselves here as well.
1653
01:16:40,262 --> 01:16:41,329
Still setting up the office.
1654
01:16:41,331 --> 01:16:43,431
We've been here
for two weeks.
1655
01:16:43,433 --> 01:16:44,832
We're getting
walls put in.
1656
01:16:44,834 --> 01:16:46,567
We've got furniture.
1657
01:16:46,569 --> 01:16:48,836
This is the brains of the operation.
1658
01:16:48,838 --> 01:16:51,305
- This is Mr. ira.
- Howdy.
1659
01:16:51,307 --> 01:16:54,241
He can program anything,
and you can see all these
books he's reading.
1660
01:16:54,243 --> 01:16:57,645
What have we got here?
We've got "cryptanalysis."
1661
01:16:57,647 --> 01:16:59,647
We've got
"everyday cryptography,"
1662
01:16:59,649 --> 01:17:03,351
"introduction
to mathematical cryptography."
1663
01:17:03,353 --> 01:17:05,753
I read all of these,
of course, when I was
much younger,
1664
01:17:05,755 --> 01:17:07,722
but ira's trying
to catch up with me.
1665
01:17:13,328 --> 01:17:15,329
The bitcoin phenomenon is trying
1666
01:17:15,331 --> 01:17:17,331
to take control of money away
1667
01:17:17,333 --> 01:17:19,767
from the state and return it to individuals.
1668
01:17:19,769 --> 01:17:21,335
It's trying to separate
money and state
1669
01:17:21,337 --> 01:17:23,337
in the same way
and for the same reasons
1670
01:17:23,339 --> 01:17:25,439
that it was important to separate church and state.
1671
01:17:25,441 --> 01:17:29,076
There's a wonderful quote from one of the rothschilds--
1672
01:17:29,078 --> 01:17:30,811
"give me control of a nation's money
1673
01:17:30,813 --> 01:17:32,913
and I care not who makes its laws."
1674
01:17:32,915 --> 01:17:35,216
So I'm trying to play my part in that narrative.
1675
01:17:36,785 --> 01:17:38,319
Outside of the United States,
1676
01:17:38,321 --> 01:17:40,287
billions of people don't have access
1677
01:17:40,289 --> 01:17:42,256
to basic banking services.
1678
01:17:42,258 --> 01:17:44,158
Bitcoin can level the playing field
1679
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,459
and help bring developing nations
1680
01:17:45,461 --> 01:17:46,861
into the global economy.
1681
01:17:54,803 --> 01:17:56,270
Cheers, cheers.
1682
01:17:59,141 --> 01:18:01,542
Eventually people are going to use a currency
1683
01:18:01,544 --> 01:18:03,310
that is as free as the Internet
1684
01:18:03,312 --> 01:18:05,813
because people will seek out freedom wherever they can.
1685
01:18:05,815 --> 01:18:07,948
And just as the government can't stop the Internet
1686
01:18:07,950 --> 01:18:11,285
and the freedom of speech, it can't stop bitcoin and the freedom of money.
1687
01:18:11,287 --> 01:18:14,121
So we're just gonna have to see how hard they try to do it.
1688
01:18:14,123 --> 01:18:15,923
It's scary
but it's exciting,
1689
01:18:15,925 --> 01:18:18,659
because at the other end
freedom typically wins.
1690
01:18:18,661 --> 01:18:20,961
We just have see how long it takes to get there.
1691
01:18:40,649 --> 01:18:42,850
As summer rolled on,
1692
01:18:42,852 --> 01:18:45,586
the bitcoin industry continued to flourish.
1693
01:18:45,588 --> 01:18:46,954
It's hard to remember
the days where I was
1694
01:18:46,956 --> 01:18:48,589
running this thing
out of my basement
1695
01:18:48,591 --> 01:18:49,857
and with one or two people.
1696
01:18:49,859 --> 01:18:52,793
Bitinstant was just
a domain name.
1697
01:18:52,795 --> 01:18:54,428
Charlie and bitinstant
1698
01:18:54,430 --> 01:18:56,030
moved into their new offices
1699
01:18:56,032 --> 01:18:58,265
I always wonder
if satoshi knew
1700
01:18:58,267 --> 01:19:00,634
that he was gonna build
something that would foster
1701
01:19:00,636 --> 01:19:02,803
companies like this,
1702
01:19:02,805 --> 01:19:05,573
where we're actually like a company with jobs
1703
01:19:05,575 --> 01:19:08,476
based on something
that someone we don't know
wrote a paper on.
1704
01:19:08,478 --> 01:19:10,344
It's kind of creepy
if you think about it.
1705
01:19:10,346 --> 01:19:12,847
I wonder if he's watching us
right now or something.
1706
01:19:14,382 --> 01:19:15,816
In San Francisco,
1707
01:19:15,818 --> 01:19:17,651
jered and tradehill had moved
1708
01:19:17,653 --> 01:19:20,121
into their new space as well.
1709
01:19:20,123 --> 01:19:22,456
It sounds funny.
It's not a $100-million
market anymore.
1710
01:19:22,458 --> 01:19:24,058
It's grown beyond that.
1711
01:19:24,060 --> 01:19:26,560
More professional people are in the space
1712
01:19:26,562 --> 01:19:29,163
and they're expecting
to deal with other
professionals.
1713
01:19:29,165 --> 01:19:31,265
But just as things were ramping up,
1714
01:19:31,267 --> 01:19:33,968
regulators started taking a closer look at bitcoin.
1715
01:19:36,104 --> 01:19:38,773
Some bad news
for bitcoin, or is it?
1716
01:19:38,775 --> 01:19:40,608
Its days of glory
could be ending.
1717
01:19:40,610 --> 01:19:42,042
At least
two dozen companies
1718
01:19:42,044 --> 01:19:43,577
have been subpoenaed
by New York's
1719
01:19:43,579 --> 01:19:45,412
department of
financial services.
1720
01:19:45,414 --> 01:19:46,814
Can't be a good thing.
1721
01:19:46,816 --> 01:19:50,251
Bitinstant, bitpay, coinbase
1722
01:19:50,253 --> 01:19:53,921
and winklevoss capital were all issued subpoenas.
1723
01:19:53,923 --> 01:19:56,157
We want to make sure that
as this enterprise grows
1724
01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,125
and if it does become
a place where
1725
01:19:58,127 --> 01:20:00,427
a lot of people are engaging
in financial transactions
1726
01:20:00,429 --> 01:20:03,264
that we have sufficient
protections in place.
1727
01:20:03,266 --> 01:20:05,933
With increased pressure in banking compliance issues,
1728
01:20:05,935 --> 01:20:08,736
bitinstant was forced to suspend services.
1729
01:20:15,744 --> 01:20:17,745
Jered faced similar battles.
1730
01:20:17,747 --> 01:20:20,080
Due to a lack of regulation,
1731
01:20:20,082 --> 01:20:23,717
many banks decided to cut ties with bitcoin companies.
1732
01:20:23,719 --> 01:20:25,653
Without a U.S. bank account
1733
01:20:25,655 --> 01:20:27,555
tradehill can't operate,
1734
01:20:27,557 --> 01:20:29,156
and jered was forced to pull the plug.
1735
01:20:34,095 --> 01:20:36,797
Regulation typically evolves
1736
01:20:36,799 --> 01:20:38,966
much more slowly
than innovation.
1737
01:20:38,968 --> 01:20:41,101
And regulations
cannot keep pace
1738
01:20:41,103 --> 01:20:42,369
with the pace
of innovation.
1739
01:20:43,772 --> 01:20:45,472
Explaining bitcoin to a bank
1740
01:20:45,474 --> 01:20:47,174
feels like explaining
Amazon.Com
1741
01:20:47,176 --> 01:20:49,076
to Barnes & noble.
1742
01:20:49,078 --> 01:20:51,212
Until lawmakers catch up,
1743
01:20:51,214 --> 01:20:53,214
startups like tradehill and bitinstant
1744
01:20:53,216 --> 01:20:54,548
are left out on a limb.
1745
01:20:56,384 --> 01:20:59,887
Banks do not want to bank
bitcoin companies.
1746
01:20:59,889 --> 01:21:01,622
When you have regulation,
you can comply with it.
1747
01:21:01,624 --> 01:21:04,525
When you don't
have any regulation,
they're not exactly sure.
1748
01:21:04,527 --> 01:21:07,561
And if the banks aren't sure,
they just default to "no."
1749
01:21:07,563 --> 01:21:11,365
New regulation takes
at least one year to develop
1750
01:21:11,367 --> 01:21:13,234
propose and adopt.
1751
01:21:13,236 --> 01:21:14,635
And in many cases,
1752
01:21:14,637 --> 01:21:16,103
it can take
much longer than that.
1753
01:21:18,740 --> 01:21:20,741
I won't let this go.
1754
01:21:20,743 --> 01:21:23,210
I will fight till the end for bitcoin.
1755
01:21:23,212 --> 01:21:25,546
Whether I have
to work on the street
or sell lemonade,
1756
01:21:25,548 --> 01:21:27,281
bitcoin's gonna succeed
one way or another
1757
01:21:27,283 --> 01:21:28,215
and I'm gonna be
a part of it.
1758
01:21:35,223 --> 01:21:37,091
Over the past several months
1759
01:21:37,093 --> 01:21:40,060
the bitcoin mining landscape has changed significantly
1760
01:21:46,601 --> 01:21:48,168
When I started,
1761
01:21:48,170 --> 01:21:50,271
bitcoin mining was a hobby for geeks.
1762
01:21:50,273 --> 01:21:52,339
Now it's big business.
1763
01:21:52,341 --> 01:21:54,308
In order to continue mining
1764
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:55,843
and continue playing
in the game
1765
01:21:55,845 --> 01:21:57,244
and be competitive
and be profitable,
1766
01:21:57,246 --> 01:21:58,913
I would have to spend
1767
01:21:58,915 --> 01:22:00,681
hundreds of thousands of dollars on gear.
1768
01:22:02,284 --> 01:22:04,251
The 18 miners I ordered from avalon
1769
01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:06,020
never arrived.
1770
01:22:06,022 --> 01:22:08,155
And the units from butterfly labs
1771
01:22:08,157 --> 01:22:10,190
took over a year to ship.
1772
01:22:10,192 --> 01:22:12,326
By the time I got them,
1773
01:22:12,328 --> 01:22:14,428
bitcoin mining was so competitive,
1774
01:22:14,430 --> 01:22:15,930
that I would never be able to mine back
1775
01:22:15,932 --> 01:22:18,465
all the coins I used to buy them.
1776
01:22:18,467 --> 01:22:20,768
See that computer?
That computer makes bitcoins.
1777
01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:24,538
And this is all
the other computers that
are making bitcoins too,
1778
01:22:24,540 --> 01:22:27,741
and it goes straight up in a line up in the air.
1779
01:22:27,743 --> 01:22:29,076
And that's 'cause
there's a lot people
1780
01:22:29,078 --> 01:22:31,979
that are making bitcoins
with computers like that.
1781
01:22:31,981 --> 01:22:33,948
As my new units are arriving,
1782
01:22:33,950 --> 01:22:35,549
I'm selling them for bitcoins
1783
01:22:35,551 --> 01:22:36,984
to try to recoup what I can.
1784
01:22:36,986 --> 01:22:38,752
If you don't mind grabbing
those other cables,
1785
01:22:38,754 --> 01:22:40,521
- I'm not coming back up.
- Okay.
1786
01:22:41,957 --> 01:22:43,023
I'm taking a pretty big hit...
1787
01:22:44,592 --> 01:22:46,260
But overall the mining experience
1788
01:22:46,262 --> 01:22:47,528
has still been worth it.
1789
01:22:51,833 --> 01:22:53,600
My mining days may be over,
1790
01:22:53,602 --> 01:22:55,803
but I'm still very involved with bitcoin.
1791
01:22:55,805 --> 01:22:57,972
With bitcoin,
it's a money system where
1792
01:22:57,974 --> 01:23:01,041
it's backed by math.
It's back by the laws
of mathematics
1793
01:23:01,043 --> 01:23:02,743
and by the rules
of the protocol.
1794
01:23:02,745 --> 01:23:04,745
I keep thinking
that there's gotta be
an easier way
1795
01:23:04,747 --> 01:23:06,447
to just set up
a secondary protocol
1796
01:23:06,449 --> 01:23:08,415
to trade private keys.
1797
01:23:08,417 --> 01:23:10,751
Every time I log on,
I see another dot on China
1798
01:23:10,753 --> 01:23:13,420
and I'm like, this is why
right now the price has gone up.
1799
01:23:13,422 --> 01:23:16,557
The price is nearing 150 again.
1800
01:23:16,559 --> 01:23:18,492
Many attribute it to the explosion
1801
01:23:18,494 --> 01:23:20,894
of bitcoin's popularity in China.
1802
01:23:20,896 --> 01:23:22,663
What's happened recently
is Chinese people
1803
01:23:22,665 --> 01:23:23,998
have really come
and adopted bitcoin.
1804
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,834
As a culture, as a nation
1805
01:23:26,836 --> 01:23:28,836
Chinese people are keen to learn about
1806
01:23:28,838 --> 01:23:30,871
things that are on the Internet,
1807
01:23:30,873 --> 01:23:32,606
things that involve math and science.
1808
01:23:32,608 --> 01:23:35,409
We think that China can really contribute in this space
1809
01:23:35,411 --> 01:23:37,644
and help bring bitcoin
to the mainstream.
1810
01:23:37,646 --> 01:23:39,780
Germany's another part of the world
1811
01:23:39,782 --> 01:23:41,415
where bitcoin has found a home.
1812
01:23:41,417 --> 01:23:43,884
It's starting to get normal if one person a day
1813
01:23:43,886 --> 01:23:46,286
comes in and buys a coffee with bitcoins.
1814
01:23:46,288 --> 01:23:49,223
People are looking
for a new way of paying--
1815
01:23:49,225 --> 01:23:50,824
not through banks,
not with Euros,
1816
01:23:50,826 --> 01:23:51,992
not with dollars.
Something new.
1817
01:23:53,795 --> 01:23:55,829
The German ministry of finance
1818
01:23:55,831 --> 01:23:57,931
even became the first governing body
1819
01:23:57,933 --> 01:24:00,567
to officially classify bitcoin as "private money."
1820
01:24:00,569 --> 01:24:02,703
I believe if we want to get
1821
01:24:02,705 --> 01:24:04,772
some justice back
into our society,
1822
01:24:04,774 --> 01:24:07,741
we should reduce the importance of the banks.
1823
01:24:07,743 --> 01:24:10,778
Bitcoin is banking without banks,
1824
01:24:10,780 --> 01:24:11,278
so here we go.
1825
01:24:15,083 --> 01:24:17,885
The FBI today shut down
what it's calling
1826
01:24:17,887 --> 01:24:20,187
the most sophisticated
Internet site
1827
01:24:20,189 --> 01:24:22,456
in the business of selling hard drugs,
1828
01:24:22,458 --> 01:24:25,225
including heroin, cocaine and LSD.
1829
01:24:25,227 --> 01:24:26,727
In the Sci-Fi section
1830
01:24:26,729 --> 01:24:28,796
of a San Francisco public library,
1831
01:24:28,798 --> 01:24:30,964
undercover agents surprised a young man
1832
01:24:30,966 --> 01:24:33,467
quietly working on his laptop.
1833
01:24:33,469 --> 01:24:36,236
They arrested a 29-year-old software engineer
1834
01:24:36,238 --> 01:24:38,205
named Ross Albrecht
1835
01:24:38,207 --> 01:24:40,140
and accused him of being the mastermind
1836
01:24:40,142 --> 01:24:42,609
behind the silk road.
1837
01:24:42,611 --> 01:24:44,311
People have always tied
the silk road to it.
1838
01:24:44,313 --> 01:24:46,213
Media has always
tied the silk road to it,
1839
01:24:46,215 --> 01:24:49,716
as if silk road is bitcoin,
but it's not.
1840
01:24:49,718 --> 01:24:52,619
This may be a sign that bitcoin is growing up.
1841
01:24:52,621 --> 01:24:54,655
It's funny. My friend
just I.M.'D me and said,
1842
01:24:54,657 --> 01:24:55,989
"silk road got raided
1843
01:24:55,991 --> 01:24:59,393
and the government seized
$3.6 million in bitcoin.
1844
01:24:59,395 --> 01:25:02,262
Is there a way
to invalidate bitcoins?"
1845
01:25:02,264 --> 01:25:04,131
I replied, "no."
1846
01:25:11,573 --> 01:25:13,107
People are starting
to finally realize
1847
01:25:13,109 --> 01:25:15,909
that bitcoin has nothing
to do with how people use it.
1848
01:25:15,911 --> 01:25:17,411
It's just money.
It's like gold.
1849
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,781
Of course, not everyone thinks
1850
01:25:20,783 --> 01:25:23,016
bitcoin is the way of the future.
1851
01:25:23,018 --> 01:25:24,751
Bitcoin will not be able
1852
01:25:24,753 --> 01:25:27,554
to survive or thrive
1853
01:25:27,556 --> 01:25:30,290
without becoming legitimate.
1854
01:25:30,292 --> 01:25:31,558
I don't see it
1855
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,827
having a serious place
1856
01:25:33,829 --> 01:25:34,995
in our financial system.
1857
01:25:36,197 --> 01:25:37,431
There are really good reasons
1858
01:25:37,433 --> 01:25:39,733
why we have central banks
1859
01:25:39,735 --> 01:25:42,636
that have the power to put out financial fires
1860
01:25:42,638 --> 01:25:44,104
by printing money.
1861
01:25:44,106 --> 01:25:47,474
I'm worried
about the technology.
1862
01:25:47,476 --> 01:25:49,243
As darth vader once said,
1863
01:25:49,245 --> 01:25:51,245
"don't put all your faith in technology."
1864
01:25:51,247 --> 01:25:52,813
I think 10 years from now,
1865
01:25:52,815 --> 01:25:54,915
we'll look back on this and just kind of chuckle
1866
01:25:54,917 --> 01:25:57,284
at the bitcoin fad.
1867
01:25:57,286 --> 01:25:59,486
"Oh yeah,
I remember bitcoin.
1868
01:25:59,488 --> 01:26:02,556
Oh yeah,
I remember that."
1869
01:26:02,558 --> 01:26:04,024
It's financial freedom.
1870
01:26:04,026 --> 01:26:06,393
Come on, bro.
This is the new world, bro.
1871
01:26:06,395 --> 01:26:08,195
Others are more optimistic.
1872
01:26:08,197 --> 01:26:09,963
I think
within 10 years,
1873
01:26:09,965 --> 01:26:12,065
you're gonna have a lot
of people using bitcoin,
1874
01:26:12,067 --> 01:26:13,734
but they're not
gonna realize that
they're using it,
1875
01:26:13,736 --> 01:26:15,802
because it's gonna
be a protocol that's
imbedded underneath
1876
01:26:15,804 --> 01:26:17,971
whatever financial service
they're using today.
1877
01:26:17,973 --> 01:26:19,973
And by bitcoin being open-source
1878
01:26:19,975 --> 01:26:21,875
it's what can allow all these different mobile wallets
1879
01:26:21,877 --> 01:26:23,443
and all these financial technologies
1880
01:26:23,445 --> 01:26:24,645
to all talk to each other,
1881
01:26:24,647 --> 01:26:27,047
especially
around the world.
1882
01:26:27,049 --> 01:26:28,649
Whoever the hell satoshi was,
1883
01:26:28,651 --> 01:26:31,084
he should go down in history as one of the greatest people
1884
01:26:31,086 --> 01:26:32,719
or groups of people that ever existed.
1885
01:26:32,721 --> 01:26:34,955
This is a technology
that mankind has needed
1886
01:26:34,957 --> 01:26:36,490
for thousands of years.
1887
01:26:36,492 --> 01:26:38,825
People have been dealing
with monetary shenanigans
1888
01:26:38,827 --> 01:26:41,628
since the Roman empire
clipping gold coins.
1889
01:26:41,630 --> 01:26:43,897
And finally people
can escape it.
1890
01:26:43,899 --> 01:26:47,634
I'm cautious to try
to predict the future.
1891
01:26:47,636 --> 01:26:49,069
We don't really know.
1892
01:26:49,071 --> 01:26:51,705
I tend to be a technological optimist.
1893
01:26:51,707 --> 01:26:53,974
I see the democratization
of technology
1894
01:26:53,976 --> 01:26:55,709
as being
a really positive thing.
1895
01:26:55,711 --> 01:26:59,646
And I think that's a really powerful force
1896
01:26:59,648 --> 01:27:01,515
that is really only just beginning.
1897
01:27:26,007 --> 01:27:28,175
Not bad. Oh!
1898
01:27:39,221 --> 01:27:42,356
Recently, as the price has
been floating around 200 again,
1899
01:27:42,358 --> 01:27:45,058
I have a lot of friends
that have asked me,
1900
01:27:45,060 --> 01:27:48,462
"are you gonna cash out
some of your bitcoins now?
1901
01:27:48,464 --> 01:27:51,865
The price is really high.
You should get some dollars
out of it."
1902
01:27:51,867 --> 01:27:54,935
I kind of tell 'em,
"no, don't you see it?"
1903
01:27:56,771 --> 01:27:58,572
I've met so many interesting people
1904
01:27:58,574 --> 01:28:00,407
and there seems to be
one thing that kind of binds
1905
01:28:00,409 --> 01:28:02,709
a lot of them together,
and that is that
1906
01:28:02,711 --> 01:28:05,145
they're willing
to face opposition
1907
01:28:05,147 --> 01:28:06,980
and follow through on the ideas that they believe in.
1908
01:28:08,483 --> 01:28:10,250
The people who try the crazy ideas
1909
01:28:10,252 --> 01:28:12,919
often fail and then everybody likes to point their fingers
1910
01:28:12,921 --> 01:28:15,055
and laugh and say, "that was such a stupid idea."
1911
01:28:15,057 --> 01:28:17,557
But once in a while it works out.
1912
01:28:17,559 --> 01:28:19,559
I think bitcoin is proving to be
1913
01:28:19,561 --> 01:28:20,961
one of those things.
1914
01:28:28,102 --> 01:28:29,836
The decision to bring
virtual currency
1915
01:28:29,838 --> 01:28:31,938
within the scope
of our regulatory framework
1916
01:28:31,940 --> 01:28:33,073
should be viewed as
1917
01:28:33,075 --> 01:28:34,941
a positive development
for this sector.
1918
01:28:34,943 --> 01:28:36,643
I'm here to testify,
because I believe
1919
01:28:36,645 --> 01:28:38,812
that digital currency
represents
1920
01:28:38,814 --> 01:28:40,714
one of the most important
technical
1921
01:28:40,716 --> 01:28:42,749
and economic innovations
of our time.
1922
01:28:42,751 --> 01:28:45,652
We are enthusiastic
about the potential
1923
01:28:45,654 --> 01:28:46,887
of virtual currencies
1924
01:28:46,889 --> 01:28:48,989
and the digital economy
for social good.
1925
01:28:53,594 --> 01:28:56,196
This latest generation
of technology
1926
01:28:56,198 --> 01:28:57,731
which we're talking
about today
1927
01:28:57,733 --> 01:29:00,200
takes things to a whole
new level.
1928
01:29:00,202 --> 01:29:01,768
There's a bit
1929
01:29:01,770 --> 01:29:03,136
of a shared
responsibility here
1930
01:29:03,138 --> 01:29:04,871
in trying to figure out
how to make this work.
1931
01:29:04,873 --> 01:29:07,541
It is a little strange
that bitcoin--
1932
01:29:07,543 --> 01:29:08,809
we don't know who
the creator is
1933
01:29:08,811 --> 01:29:11,745
and so that often
1934
01:29:11,747 --> 01:29:13,113
conjures up the idea
that there's
1935
01:29:13,115 --> 01:29:14,781
some risk here that
we have not--
1936
01:29:14,783 --> 01:29:16,183
you don't think it was
Al Gore, do you?
1937
01:29:19,787 --> 01:29:21,288
If you think a little broadly,
1938
01:29:21,290 --> 01:29:23,757
this could, again, have
huge huge implications.
1939
01:29:33,935 --> 01:29:37,237
2013 was the year bitcoin first entered the mainstream
1940
01:29:37,239 --> 01:29:40,741
and 2014 got off to a dramatic start.
1941
01:29:40,743 --> 01:29:43,243
Just as we were wrapping things up on our film,
1942
01:29:43,245 --> 01:29:45,112
Charlie shrem was arrested
1943
01:29:45,114 --> 01:29:48,148
after returning from a bitcoin conference in Amsterdam.
1944
01:29:48,150 --> 01:29:51,151
He could be facing up to 30 years in prison
1945
01:29:51,153 --> 01:29:53,787
on charges related to his activities at bitinstant.
1946
01:29:57,925 --> 01:30:00,560
In j.F.K.,
you walk right off the plane,
1947
01:30:00,562 --> 01:30:02,796
and you go straight
to customs.
1948
01:30:02,798 --> 01:30:04,698
About three agents
in front of me
1949
01:30:04,700 --> 01:30:06,800
and then four agents
behind me said,
1950
01:30:06,802 --> 01:30:08,702
"Mr. shrem,
please come with us."
1951
01:30:08,704 --> 01:30:11,271
They took me to an interrogating room,
1952
01:30:11,273 --> 01:30:12,873
told me that I'm being arrested
1953
01:30:12,875 --> 01:30:15,108
on federal crimes of money laundering,
1954
01:30:15,110 --> 01:30:17,110
running an unlicensed money transmission business
1955
01:30:17,112 --> 01:30:20,781
and failing to file suspicious-activity reports.
1956
01:30:20,783 --> 01:30:23,884
- The indictment alleged that- Charlie had sold bitcoins
1957
01:30:23,886 --> 01:30:26,520
to a reseller that operated on the silk road.
1958
01:30:27,555 --> 01:30:29,623
What sucks
is the house arrest.
1959
01:30:29,625 --> 01:30:33,059
I have to pretty much be here
all the time, every day.
I can't even go outside
1960
01:30:33,061 --> 01:30:35,295
unless I'm going
to my lawyer's office,
which is once or twice a week.
1961
01:30:36,597 --> 01:30:38,365
I pretty much lost my freedom,
1962
01:30:38,367 --> 01:30:40,400
lost everything that I've built over the past year.
1963
01:30:43,204 --> 01:30:45,405
Charlie's arrest wasn't the only bad news
1964
01:30:45,407 --> 01:30:48,074
that rocked the community in the new year.
1965
01:30:48,076 --> 01:30:51,178
For months there had been rumors that mt. Gox had become insolvent.
1966
01:30:51,180 --> 01:30:54,881
And in February the site went offline.
1967
01:30:57,352 --> 01:30:57,951
Do you still have
everyone's bitcoins?
1968
01:31:01,856 --> 01:31:03,757
I'm not touching you.
I haven't touched you.
1969
01:31:03,759 --> 01:31:06,293
Do you still have
everyone's bitcoins?
1970
01:31:14,036 --> 01:31:15,368
The rumors turned out to be true.
1971
01:31:33,621 --> 01:31:35,889
Mt. Gox had reportedly been hacked
1972
01:31:35,891 --> 01:31:38,892
and nearly half a billion dollars worth of bitcoin were missing.
1973
01:31:42,830 --> 01:31:45,632
Mark was forced to step down as c.E.O.
1974
01:31:45,634 --> 01:31:47,801
And mt. Gox went into bankruptcy.
1975
01:31:54,375 --> 01:31:56,977
A national
magazine claims
to have identified
1976
01:31:56,979 --> 01:31:58,712
the mysterious founder
of the worldwide
1977
01:31:58,714 --> 01:32:00,614
digital currency
called bitcoin.
1978
01:32:00,616 --> 01:32:02,115
Tonight he is speaking out,
1979
01:32:02,117 --> 01:32:03,450
but he says he has
1980
01:32:03,452 --> 01:32:04,951
nothing whatsoever to do with bitcoin.
1981
01:32:04,953 --> 01:32:06,887
Why did you create bitcoin, sir?
1982
01:32:06,889 --> 01:32:07,954
Okay.
1983
01:32:11,226 --> 01:32:12,792
Sir, can we ask you about bitcoin?
1984
01:32:12,794 --> 01:32:14,027
- No no no no no.
- Why were you involved in bitcoin?
1985
01:32:14,029 --> 01:32:17,564
Okay, I'm not involved
in bitcoin, okay?
1986
01:32:17,566 --> 01:32:18,698
- Who's involved in it?
- Wait a minute.
1987
01:32:18,700 --> 01:32:19,966
I want a free lunch first.
1988
01:32:19,968 --> 01:32:21,368
I'm gonna go with this guy.
1989
01:32:22,737 --> 01:32:25,872
I want a big one.
Yeah.
1990
01:32:25,874 --> 01:32:27,908
Oh, okay. Yeah,
this will be good.
1991
01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:30,744
- Oh jeez.
- We have some water.
1992
01:32:30,746 --> 01:32:33,079
Hey, where's yours?
1993
01:32:33,081 --> 01:32:36,182
"Newsweek" claimed the creator of bitcoin
1994
01:32:36,184 --> 01:32:38,218
had not used a pseudonym.
1995
01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:39,953
They connected the dots
1996
01:32:39,955 --> 01:32:41,955
to a 64-year-old Japanese man
1997
01:32:41,957 --> 01:32:44,057
living in Los Angeles...
1998
01:32:44,059 --> 01:32:47,527
Named Dorian prentice satoshi nakamoto.
1999
01:32:48,930 --> 01:32:51,464
Nakamoto immediately denied the allegations
2000
01:32:51,466 --> 01:32:53,800
and said he'd tell his story to the first reporter
2001
01:32:53,802 --> 01:32:55,602
who agreed to buy him lunch.
2002
01:32:55,604 --> 01:32:57,437
The main reason
I'm here is
2003
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,240
to clear my name,
that I have nothing
2004
01:33:00,242 --> 01:33:02,142
- to do with bitcoin...
- Yup.
2005
01:33:02,144 --> 01:33:04,911
...nothing to do
with developing.
2006
01:33:04,913 --> 01:33:08,114
I was just an engineer
doing something else.
2007
01:33:08,116 --> 01:33:10,350
As the media frenzy escalated,
2008
01:33:10,352 --> 01:33:13,186
"newsweek's" claims started to unravel.
2009
01:33:13,188 --> 01:33:15,922
Holes in the story led many to believe
2010
01:33:15,924 --> 01:33:17,924
it was nothing more than sensational journalism.
2011
01:33:19,393 --> 01:33:21,094
There was no conclusive evidence
2012
01:33:21,096 --> 01:33:22,762
tying Dorian to bitcoin.
2013
01:33:24,365 --> 01:33:25,899
Amidst the uncertainty,
2014
01:33:25,901 --> 01:33:27,334
on that same day...
2015
01:33:28,469 --> 01:33:30,236
A comment suddenly appeared
2016
01:33:30,238 --> 01:33:33,773
on satoshi's long-dormant profile page which read...
2017
01:33:42,416 --> 01:33:44,818
Maybe we'll never know who created bitcoin...
2018
01:33:46,020 --> 01:33:47,554
But the truth is
2019
01:33:47,556 --> 01:33:49,122
it doesn't really matter.
2020
01:33:50,858 --> 01:33:52,459
Bitcoin belongs to everyone.
2021
01:33:53,594 --> 01:33:55,762
And the future is ours to build.
2022
01:34:22,456 --> 01:34:24,958
Put $100,000
on market orders
right now.
2023
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,626
- Why?
- Let's do it.
Let's do it. Come on.
2024
01:34:26,628 --> 01:34:28,595
- Come on.
- Why? What's
gonna happen?
2025
01:34:28,597 --> 01:34:30,597
Buy 100k worth
of bitcoins right now.
2026
01:34:30,599 --> 01:34:31,731
- Why?
- Do it.
2027
01:34:31,733 --> 01:34:33,099
- I don't wanna do it.
- Do it.
2028
01:34:33,101 --> 01:34:34,734
You owe me
$100,000. Do it.
2029
01:34:34,736 --> 01:34:36,636
I'll send you
$100,000 in bitcoins.
2030
01:34:36,638 --> 01:34:38,204
No, you buy it.
But 100k right now.
2031
01:34:38,206 --> 01:34:40,874
Dude, I can't. I need
the floating gox
for volume.
2032
01:34:40,876 --> 01:34:44,044
Closing bell
for satoshi square!
2033
01:34:44,046 --> 01:34:45,145
All right,
does this look right?
2034
01:34:45,147 --> 01:34:46,579
1-n-p-w? Yup.
2035
01:34:46,581 --> 01:34:48,048
Yup, okay.
2036
01:34:48,050 --> 01:34:49,049
And I owe you 0.2?
2037
01:34:49,051 --> 01:34:51,317
- Uh... 0.18.
- 0.18.
2038
01:34:51,319 --> 01:34:54,654
This is for
bitcoin t-shirt.
2039
01:34:54,656 --> 01:34:56,823
I got 'em.
A pleasure, sir.
2040
01:34:56,825 --> 01:34:58,324
Great doing
business with you.
2041
01:34:58,326 --> 01:35:00,427
- Gonna wear your
shirt proudly.
- Do it.
2042
01:35:00,429 --> 01:35:02,128
That's one thing
that's interesting
about bitcoin.
2043
01:35:02,130 --> 01:35:04,197
It's like, how do
you declare losses?
2044
01:35:04,199 --> 01:35:06,766
You point to two
transactions that
happened on the Internet
2045
01:35:06,768 --> 01:35:09,069
and you tell the I.R.S.
That you owned that?
2046
01:35:09,071 --> 01:35:11,438
"Oh, I used to own
that and I lost
the private key."
2047
01:35:12,707 --> 01:35:14,374
And then if you
really do lose it,
2048
01:35:14,376 --> 01:35:16,376
how do you write it
off for taxes?
2049
01:35:16,378 --> 01:35:18,044
Oh, that's gonna
be interesting.
2050
01:35:22,283 --> 01:35:24,584
We love bitcoin.
2051
01:35:24,586 --> 01:35:27,020
Okay, guys, we're gonna
play a special version
of hopscotch
2052
01:35:27,022 --> 01:35:30,290
called "bitcoin
blockchain hopscotch."
2053
01:35:30,292 --> 01:35:33,126
Oh, you lost
all your bitcoins!
2054
01:35:34,730 --> 01:35:36,596
Who is satoshi nakamoto?
2055
01:35:38,266 --> 01:35:41,234
I'd... rather
not tell you,
2056
01:35:41,236 --> 01:35:42,602
- but yeah.
- Oh, do you know?
2057
01:35:42,604 --> 01:35:45,338
Uh, maybe not, maybe.
2058
01:35:45,340 --> 01:35:46,906
Oh.
2059
01:35:46,908 --> 01:35:49,776
You know,
I have a bitcoin
and a half myself now.
2060
01:35:49,778 --> 01:35:51,578
Which I think
probably in 10 years
2061
01:35:55,416 --> 01:35:57,083
When you think about it hard enough
2062
01:35:57,085 --> 01:35:59,452
on a global scale, this is a net gain for humanity.
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