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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,102 --> 00:00:19,396 Success can be a problem. 2 00:00:21,982 --> 00:00:25,443 It can be dangerous because you may forget what made the success. 3 00:00:27,821 --> 00:00:31,074 You may become self-centered, arrogant. 4 00:00:32,993 --> 00:00:37,289 If you learn from failure, it can carry a lot of positives for you. 5 00:00:41,294 --> 00:00:46,172 If you carry out by success, it may prepare big deceptions for the future. 6 00:00:48,675 --> 00:00:51,887 When Carlos Ghosn was the head of Renault and Nissan, 7 00:00:53,096 --> 00:00:56,316 you know, you could see it in his eyes and the way he spoke, 8 00:00:56,516 --> 00:00:58,810 he was a man who played by the rules. 9 00:00:59,311 --> 00:01:01,521 Everything was by the book for Carlos Ghosn. 10 00:01:02,105 --> 00:01:03,573 At least, so it seemed. 11 00:01:03,773 --> 00:01:05,117 Breaking news. 12 00:01:05,317 --> 00:01:09,112 Nissan has revealed that its chairman has been arrested. 13 00:01:09,946 --> 00:01:12,624 It not only seemed like he had the Midas touch, he did. 14 00:01:12,824 --> 00:01:14,960 The rock star chairman. 15 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,203 The savior of Nissan. 16 00:01:17,787 --> 00:01:20,966 He's in a global super league of business leaders. 17 00:01:21,166 --> 00:01:22,968 Time magazine calls him one of the most respected 18 00:01:23,168 --> 00:01:25,545 business executives in the world, ahead of Bill Gates. 19 00:01:26,421 --> 00:01:29,641 And here in Japan, he's nothing less than a national hero. 20 00:01:29,841 --> 00:01:31,184 It's kind of the story of Icarus. 21 00:01:31,384 --> 00:01:33,311 The guy soared to the highest of highs 22 00:01:33,511 --> 00:01:35,430 and then he falls to the lowest of lows. 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,150 Tokyo prosecutors have rearrested 24 00:01:38,350 --> 00:01:40,110 Nissan former chairman, Carlos Ghosn. 25 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:42,237 This is an extraordinary situation. 26 00:01:42,437 --> 00:01:45,240 It is getting worse. He is once again behind bars. 27 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,200 People were just absolutely stunned. 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,745 And a lot of people were actively saying, "This is a coup. 29 00:01:49,945 --> 00:01:51,455 This is crazy." 30 00:01:51,655 --> 00:01:55,083 We discovered significant misconduct. 31 00:01:55,283 --> 00:01:56,843 We know it's a conspiracy. 32 00:01:59,246 --> 00:02:01,506 He betrayed my trust, my respect. 33 00:02:01,706 --> 00:02:03,884 He started saying, "I need to get out. 34 00:02:04,084 --> 00:02:06,470 If I stay in Japan, it's gonna be a slow death." 35 00:02:06,670 --> 00:02:09,306 Breaking news. Carlos Ghosn on the run. 36 00:02:09,506 --> 00:02:11,967 Carlos Ghosn has fled Tokyo. 37 00:02:13,635 --> 00:02:18,390 The plan was so brilliant because it was an optical illusion. 38 00:02:20,016 --> 00:02:22,069 It was the most extraordinary thing. 39 00:02:22,269 --> 00:02:24,780 There's some confusion about how Ghosn escaped. 40 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:27,065 I'm risking my life to save his life. 41 00:02:28,567 --> 00:02:30,407 It seemed like the perfect crime. 42 00:02:30,986 --> 00:02:34,738 You don't run unless you got something to run from. 43 00:02:36,825 --> 00:02:39,786 Do I feel betrayed? Absolutely. 44 00:02:42,163 --> 00:02:44,925 We're up against two competing narratives. 45 00:02:45,125 --> 00:02:46,877 Is Carlos Ghosn a victim... 46 00:02:49,963 --> 00:02:50,964 or a villain? 47 00:02:56,553 --> 00:02:58,230 - We're ready for you. - Can I come? 48 00:02:58,430 --> 00:02:59,681 - Yeah. - Good. 49 00:03:34,174 --> 00:03:38,178 Carlos Ghosn. It seems that he remains a mystery. 50 00:04:02,744 --> 00:04:05,330 Leadership is not something which is born with you. 51 00:04:10,335 --> 00:04:14,923 It's something that, within the special circumstances of life, 52 00:04:15,924 --> 00:04:17,509 anyone can exercise. 53 00:04:21,721 --> 00:04:24,724 Ordinary people, normal people, hardworking people. 54 00:04:28,103 --> 00:04:30,023 You can achieve whatever you want in the world... 55 00:04:30,773 --> 00:04:32,773 as long as you're willing to take the challenge. 56 00:04:33,567 --> 00:04:35,777 What's in the box? 57 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:38,654 And ready to take the risk. 58 00:04:52,294 --> 00:04:54,337 Is the shot okay? Anything wrong, or... 59 00:04:55,213 --> 00:04:56,840 Looks very good from where I am. 60 00:04:57,340 --> 00:04:58,925 - You happy? - Good. 61 00:05:00,051 --> 00:05:03,647 So take us back to November 2018. You know, why were you flying to Japan? 62 00:05:03,847 --> 00:05:05,473 What was on your mind at the time? 63 00:05:06,057 --> 00:05:08,518 I was going for a regular week in Japan. 64 00:05:16,234 --> 00:05:18,286 So you had no sense of a plot? You had no... 65 00:05:18,486 --> 00:05:20,606 - No. No. No. - Sense there was something going on? 66 00:05:22,699 --> 00:05:26,253 I was very calm. I had a board meeting of Nissan. 67 00:05:26,453 --> 00:05:28,672 I had a meeting with the Governor of Tokyo. 68 00:05:28,872 --> 00:05:32,467 I have also one of my daughter who was visiting me in Japan. 69 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:35,095 So I was happy. I was going to have a nice dinner with her. 70 00:05:35,295 --> 00:05:37,047 And I was going just for a normal week. 71 00:05:44,095 --> 00:05:45,805 But at arrival at the airport, 72 00:05:46,431 --> 00:05:48,525 they said that there was something wrong with my passport. 73 00:05:48,725 --> 00:05:50,810 "Can you come with us to the office?" 74 00:05:52,103 --> 00:05:54,406 And there was a small guy sitting on the side, 75 00:05:54,606 --> 00:05:56,033 and this is when he came to me and said, 76 00:05:56,233 --> 00:05:59,069 "Look, I am working with the Tokyo prosecutor office. 77 00:05:59,653 --> 00:06:02,697 We want you to come with us because we have some questions to ask you." 78 00:06:03,365 --> 00:06:05,667 And then this I say, "Well, this must be a misunderstanding. 79 00:06:05,867 --> 00:06:07,419 I have my daughter waiting. I have dinner." 80 00:06:07,619 --> 00:06:09,296 He said "No, no. I'm sorry." I said, "Can I call her?" 81 00:06:09,496 --> 00:06:10,797 He said, "No, no. You cannot use your phone." 82 00:06:10,997 --> 00:06:13,917 And this is where I understood that this was very serious. 83 00:06:17,629 --> 00:06:18,306 Breaking news. 84 00:06:18,506 --> 00:06:21,141 In the past few minutes, Nissan has revealed that 85 00:06:21,341 --> 00:06:22,884 its chairman has been arrested. 86 00:06:24,052 --> 00:06:26,938 It's a fall from grace as brutal as it is sudden. 87 00:06:27,138 --> 00:06:29,524 Carlos Ghosn, the all-powerful boss, 88 00:06:29,724 --> 00:06:33,937 arrested as he got off his private jet in Tokyo. 89 00:06:35,313 --> 00:06:37,524 The whole world collapsed for me. 90 00:06:38,441 --> 00:06:42,153 First, I was shocked. I was traumatized, you know. 91 00:06:42,946 --> 00:06:43,914 It was horrible. 92 00:06:44,114 --> 00:06:47,042 Numerous significant acts of misconduct have been uncovered such as the person... 93 00:06:47,242 --> 00:06:49,336 It took me some time to realize that Nissan 94 00:06:49,536 --> 00:06:55,249 was launching a massive campaign in the media manipulating public opinion. 95 00:06:56,210 --> 00:06:57,803 We have directors of Nissan 96 00:06:58,003 --> 00:06:59,513 who had some very harsh words for Ghosn. 97 00:06:59,713 --> 00:07:03,850 He'd managed by fear, by direction, by dictatorial... 98 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:06,353 They were on the offensive everywhere. 99 00:07:06,553 --> 00:07:10,065 And not only in Japan, but particularly in France. 100 00:07:10,265 --> 00:07:13,143 The era of Carlos Ghosn is officially over. 101 00:07:13,727 --> 00:07:16,071 Last night, Mr. Carlos Ghosn submitted his resignation 102 00:07:16,271 --> 00:07:20,025 to Renault's provisional management. 103 00:07:22,611 --> 00:07:25,697 The board of Renault supported me for a few weeks. 104 00:07:26,364 --> 00:07:29,117 Then at a certain point in time, they shot me in the head. 105 00:07:47,969 --> 00:07:50,221 The French people love Renault. 106 00:07:51,806 --> 00:07:53,525 They say their blood cells 107 00:07:53,725 --> 00:07:58,230 or their heart is in the form of a diamond which is a symbol of Renault. 108 00:07:59,522 --> 00:08:05,278 It was a quite, successful firm with 30 years of continuous growth. 109 00:08:10,825 --> 00:08:13,712 But in '94, '95, 110 00:08:13,912 --> 00:08:16,164 we were facing major difficulties. 111 00:08:18,124 --> 00:08:21,670 I mean, we were looking face-to-face with death. 112 00:08:22,170 --> 00:08:23,305 DÉVASTÉ - CALAMITÉ - FAILLITE - CATACLYSME 113 00:08:23,505 --> 00:08:24,881 LA FIN? 114 00:08:26,258 --> 00:08:30,428 But then one of the strategists came up with the name of Carlos Ghosn 115 00:08:31,846 --> 00:08:34,265 whom I had never heard about. 116 00:08:39,312 --> 00:08:44,284 My first meeting with Schweitzer was a very cold 117 00:08:44,484 --> 00:08:47,821 and structured and rational meeting. 118 00:08:48,989 --> 00:08:51,249 He obviously was a very different person than me 119 00:08:51,449 --> 00:08:54,461 and I felt the difference immediately, but it's fine. 120 00:08:54,661 --> 00:09:00,092 He was a very impressive person with a drive and intensity, 121 00:09:00,292 --> 00:09:02,711 which was very exciting. 122 00:09:03,211 --> 00:09:07,215 You know, he was the sort of man you felt would forge ahead. 123 00:09:07,716 --> 00:09:11,061 The chairman, CEO and president of Michelin North America, Mr. Carlos Ghosn. 124 00:09:11,261 --> 00:09:12,521 Mr. Chairman, welcome to the program. 125 00:09:12,721 --> 00:09:13,722 I'm glad to be here. 126 00:09:14,222 --> 00:09:17,067 He had very impressive track record at Michelin. 127 00:09:17,267 --> 00:09:22,772 I mean, he had managed a major merger in the US and return to profits. 128 00:09:23,273 --> 00:09:29,237 So the possibility of a quick turnaround was clear in my mind and in our mind. 129 00:09:30,113 --> 00:09:33,208 A lot of people said, "You have zero chance of being successful." 130 00:09:33,408 --> 00:09:36,712 But it was very exciting, in a certain way, to say, "You know what? 131 00:09:36,912 --> 00:09:39,047 I have the opportunity to prove them all wrong." 132 00:09:39,247 --> 00:09:43,009 So I told him, "Well, I want to recruit you." 133 00:09:43,209 --> 00:09:46,763 And, Ghosn said, "Well, thank you very much. 134 00:09:46,963 --> 00:09:48,048 I will come." 135 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,387 I must mention one point which I found interesting. 136 00:09:55,096 --> 00:09:59,276 François Michelin told me, "Look, you should not leave him alone. 137 00:09:59,476 --> 00:10:01,561 You should phone him every week." 138 00:10:02,729 --> 00:10:05,190 And I found that a bit surprising 139 00:10:06,191 --> 00:10:11,696 because it showed that maybe there was something a bit fragile. 140 00:10:17,953 --> 00:10:21,039 Ghosn was in a league of his own, and that fascinated me. 141 00:10:21,706 --> 00:10:23,250 But he's also kind of an outsider. 142 00:10:24,626 --> 00:10:29,097 He's come from the Amazon Rainforest, born in the, like, backwater of Brazil, 143 00:10:29,297 --> 00:10:31,591 basically, in a place called Porto Velho... 144 00:10:32,467 --> 00:10:35,428 to Lebanese mum, Lebanese dad. 145 00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:39,149 I mean, it is the Amazon, and it's tough. 146 00:10:39,349 --> 00:10:44,395 And so when Ghosn was... was very young, um, he had ki... weak health... 147 00:10:45,939 --> 00:10:47,566 and they moved back to Lebanon. 148 00:10:49,484 --> 00:10:55,615 And then as a teenager, he came to France, ended up at a university in Paris. 149 00:10:57,242 --> 00:11:00,629 And I think growing up in these different cultures gave him... 150 00:11:00,829 --> 00:11:02,631 a-a huge competitive advantage in, 151 00:11:02,831 --> 00:11:05,417 you know, a globalized and globalizing world. 152 00:11:08,295 --> 00:11:09,888 This man is the right-hand man 153 00:11:10,088 --> 00:11:11,208 to the President of Renault. 154 00:11:13,174 --> 00:11:15,176 Carlos Ghosn starts work tomorrow. 155 00:11:19,139 --> 00:11:20,857 Carlos Ghosn's vision, first of all, 156 00:11:21,057 --> 00:11:24,936 was you've gotta be profitable and then everything flows from that. 157 00:11:25,604 --> 00:11:29,616 So he gets to Renault, and he cuts costs, and he does it savagely. 158 00:11:29,816 --> 00:11:33,745 The French carmaker Renault plans to close a plant in Belgium. 159 00:11:33,945 --> 00:11:36,405 The decision means the loss of over 3,000 jobs. 160 00:11:42,787 --> 00:11:46,499 I said, "Look, this plethora of people must cost a fortune. 161 00:11:47,292 --> 00:11:49,553 What are the strengths, and what are the weaknesses? 162 00:11:49,753 --> 00:11:53,130 So we can build on our strength and try to erase our weakness." 163 00:11:55,175 --> 00:11:56,018 That's all. 164 00:11:56,218 --> 00:11:57,894 He's ruthless. Absolutely. 165 00:11:58,094 --> 00:12:00,605 I mean, if the company needs to shed 5,000 jobs, 166 00:12:00,805 --> 00:12:03,516 "Very sorry. Thank you for your work. 167 00:12:04,476 --> 00:12:06,394 Don't let the door hit you on the way out." 168 00:12:07,187 --> 00:12:09,067 Carlos Ghosn's nickname: 169 00:12:09,314 --> 00:12:10,315 le cost cutter. 170 00:12:12,192 --> 00:12:15,245 The result is a spectacular turnaround for Renault. 171 00:12:15,445 --> 00:12:16,705 A profit of 172 00:12:16,905 --> 00:12:19,207 2,300,000,000 francs. 173 00:12:19,407 --> 00:12:21,168 - Nicole? - Papa? 174 00:12:21,368 --> 00:12:22,368 Maman. 175 00:12:23,787 --> 00:12:26,122 It was an astounding success, 176 00:12:27,207 --> 00:12:29,926 but still, I felt that we were too small... 177 00:12:30,126 --> 00:12:34,381 too French, and that we had to internationalize. 178 00:12:34,881 --> 00:12:37,676 Therefore, we should have a partner 179 00:12:38,176 --> 00:12:41,429 whose strengths were in different markets than ours. 180 00:12:42,013 --> 00:12:45,350 And American companies, they were simply too expensive for us. 181 00:12:47,018 --> 00:12:51,356 But Asian companies afraid of facing bankruptcy, 182 00:12:52,065 --> 00:12:55,827 I think that Ghosn saw this as an opportunity. 183 00:12:56,027 --> 00:12:58,822 Simple as that. 184 00:13:09,958 --> 00:13:12,219 Nissan, one of Japan's biggest corporate names, 185 00:13:12,419 --> 00:13:13,595 has gone into loss. 186 00:13:13,795 --> 00:13:14,930 Today Nissan Corporation... 187 00:13:15,130 --> 00:13:16,848 Nissan cars... 188 00:13:17,048 --> 00:13:19,758 Nissan Motors released its results at 3pm today. 189 00:13:21,469 --> 00:13:24,439 The car industry in Japan is without a doubt 190 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:27,392 the biggest source of national pride. 191 00:13:28,268 --> 00:13:30,812 But when Carlos Ghosn came in 1999, 192 00:13:31,938 --> 00:13:33,940 I mean, Nissan was dead in the water. 193 00:13:35,025 --> 00:13:38,111 A respected carmaker but troubled and losing money. 194 00:13:39,195 --> 00:13:40,447 I mean, nobody wanted it. 195 00:13:41,156 --> 00:13:45,085 Even the banks that used to lend out money like candy were just like, 196 00:13:45,285 --> 00:13:46,086 "Okay, no more." 197 00:13:46,286 --> 00:13:50,789 But he believed that he could rescue this basket case of a company. 198 00:13:53,376 --> 00:13:55,461 Nissan just needed an injection of cash. 199 00:13:56,713 --> 00:14:01,718 So what Renault decided to do is take a stake in the company of 37%. 200 00:14:04,429 --> 00:14:05,897 But instead of straight merger, 201 00:14:06,097 --> 00:14:07,933 the two companies remain two companies. 202 00:14:08,808 --> 00:14:10,068 Essentially, what they've decided to do is 203 00:14:10,268 --> 00:14:13,864 to create this kind of weird construction... that was the alliance... 204 00:14:14,064 --> 00:14:15,523 And kind of support each other. 205 00:14:17,025 --> 00:14:19,694 Other companies considered Nissan too risky. 206 00:14:20,278 --> 00:14:23,290 It was losing money on a continuous basis. 207 00:14:23,490 --> 00:14:26,534 It was heavily indebted... 208 00:14:28,912 --> 00:14:33,708 but I had the best turnaround expert in the automobile industry. 209 00:14:34,626 --> 00:14:35,627 Carlos Ghosn. 210 00:14:36,127 --> 00:14:39,422 I told him, look, "I think we can do it. 211 00:14:40,590 --> 00:14:43,393 If we fail, you will be fired. 212 00:14:43,593 --> 00:14:44,970 I will be fired." 213 00:14:47,806 --> 00:14:50,317 For me, the success of this alliance, 214 00:14:50,517 --> 00:14:56,523 that was signed in 1999, was based on two principles. 215 00:14:57,274 --> 00:14:58,200 Okay? 216 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:04,281 Trust and sincere, effective collaboration. 217 00:15:04,948 --> 00:15:10,328 And if any one of the two were missing, this whole thing doesn't have any meaning. 218 00:15:22,841 --> 00:15:28,179 When I first heard his name, I didn't know almost anything. 219 00:15:29,014 --> 00:15:34,060 But if you imagine that some strange... Stranger suddenly restructuring Nissan, 220 00:15:35,562 --> 00:15:39,190 it could be a big shock, I think. 221 00:15:41,693 --> 00:15:44,246 And we must address the real problems of the company 222 00:15:44,446 --> 00:15:45,747 without any compromise. 223 00:15:45,947 --> 00:15:48,366 It will require a lot of sacrifices... 224 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:53,046 but I'm tell... I'm telling you, 225 00:15:53,246 --> 00:15:57,300 I'm feeding a lot of determination into the company to do it. 226 00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:58,593 And without any compromise... 227 00:15:58,793 --> 00:16:03,131 For Carlos Ghosn, there was the immediate problem of a culture clash. 228 00:16:04,466 --> 00:16:07,936 In fact, some of the longtimers... I mean, in... in the Japanese parlance, 229 00:16:08,136 --> 00:16:10,222 they would refer to them as the "old boys"... 230 00:16:10,722 --> 00:16:15,861 Were deeply suspicious of Renault's intentions and some of them, 231 00:16:16,061 --> 00:16:19,814 frankly, a little bit resentful of this outsider. 232 00:16:22,150 --> 00:16:24,369 I knew I was playing on my future and my credibility. 233 00:16:24,569 --> 00:16:27,289 But then this was it, it was a totally foreign country, different culture. 234 00:16:27,489 --> 00:16:29,499 And there was no reference, there was no book, 235 00:16:29,699 --> 00:16:32,339 there was nothing explained to you how you do these kind of things. 236 00:16:34,746 --> 00:16:36,747 Just need to imagine and do it. 237 00:16:41,461 --> 00:16:42,796 - Thank you, Harao - San. 238 00:16:44,673 --> 00:16:48,843 The key facts about Nissan point to one reality. 239 00:16:49,469 --> 00:16:52,180 Nissan is in bad shape. 240 00:16:54,266 --> 00:16:57,361 His plan was basically to turn 20 billion in debt 241 00:16:57,561 --> 00:16:59,896 into a profit in a couple of years. 242 00:17:00,689 --> 00:17:01,856 I mean, it was unheard of. 243 00:17:02,566 --> 00:17:04,284 This effort will gather suppliers... 244 00:17:04,484 --> 00:17:09,447 He was going to slash tens of thousands of jobs, close factories, 245 00:17:10,239 --> 00:17:11,999 which frankly was shocking in Japan. 246 00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:14,784 You know, people don't get fired or laid off in Japan. 247 00:17:18,707 --> 00:17:20,874 The reaction was "Wow, this is brutal." 248 00:17:22,127 --> 00:17:23,670 This is some... some real medicine. 249 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:26,848 I mean, he received death threats 250 00:17:27,048 --> 00:17:30,343 and he had to have security with him at all times. 251 00:17:33,388 --> 00:17:35,941 How he got through it was basically just trying not to overthink 252 00:17:36,141 --> 00:17:38,694 and just put his head down and just charge forward 253 00:17:38,894 --> 00:17:40,896 and just keep going and hope that it works. 254 00:17:43,315 --> 00:17:44,241 I said from the beginning, 255 00:17:44,441 --> 00:17:46,451 if I don't grow the company in three years, I'm out. 256 00:17:46,651 --> 00:17:49,321 If I don't cut the debt in half in three years, I'm out. 257 00:17:50,363 --> 00:17:53,542 So I needed every single minute of the day 258 00:17:53,742 --> 00:17:57,587 and every single ounce of energy that I would have 259 00:17:57,787 --> 00:17:59,456 in order to make it happen. 260 00:18:04,628 --> 00:18:07,422 Carlos Ghosn is involved in everything, every decision. 261 00:18:09,925 --> 00:18:12,144 He's involved in design, he's involved in the PR, 262 00:18:12,344 --> 00:18:14,554 he's involved in the engineering, in the finance. 263 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:18,817 He has an agenda which is full to the brim. 264 00:18:19,017 --> 00:18:21,686 - Quick response, quicker response. - Okay. 265 00:18:24,981 --> 00:18:28,068 Wasn't sure if Mr. Ghosn's plan 266 00:18:29,569 --> 00:18:32,364 was able to change Nissan at that time. 267 00:18:33,823 --> 00:18:38,119 But a few months later, that action started showing improvement. 268 00:18:38,787 --> 00:18:42,749 Nissan was getting out of the deep red. 269 00:18:43,875 --> 00:18:45,510 The man they call the "cost killer" 270 00:18:45,710 --> 00:18:48,930 was sent into a near-bankrupt Nissan two years ago. 271 00:18:49,130 --> 00:18:51,091 That's when the revolution began. 272 00:18:53,301 --> 00:18:55,812 After one year, we had incredible results. 273 00:18:56,012 --> 00:19:00,817 My opponents said, "He tricked the books. This is fake." 274 00:19:01,017 --> 00:19:03,111 "We're gonna see after one year." 275 00:19:03,311 --> 00:19:05,072 And as you know, the second year came better, 276 00:19:05,272 --> 00:19:06,281 the third year came better, 277 00:19:06,481 --> 00:19:08,108 and then it was... it was over. 278 00:19:08,608 --> 00:19:13,196 Then the image was built, the recovery was here... 279 00:19:15,282 --> 00:19:18,034 and I became promoted to CEO of Nissan. 280 00:19:18,618 --> 00:19:19,618 Thank you very much. 281 00:19:22,455 --> 00:19:24,466 So he pulled it off in a pretty dramatic way? 282 00:19:24,666 --> 00:19:26,376 Yeah, completely. Absolutely. 283 00:19:27,252 --> 00:19:30,546 I mean, it not only seemed like he had the Midas touch, he did. 284 00:19:38,138 --> 00:19:41,191 When I first went to live in Japan as a program director for Nissan, 285 00:19:41,391 --> 00:19:44,269 he was at the peak of his popularity. 286 00:19:47,272 --> 00:19:50,483 He couldn't walk in the street. He was a superhero. 287 00:19:51,109 --> 00:19:52,035 He was a manga hero. 288 00:19:52,235 --> 00:19:54,788 Everybody wanted to know what he was like. 289 00:19:54,988 --> 00:19:57,416 Everybody wanted to know what the magic was. 290 00:19:57,616 --> 00:19:59,084 Everybody wanted to understand 291 00:19:59,284 --> 00:20:02,078 how he'd managed to turn Nissan around. 292 00:20:07,375 --> 00:20:10,253 At that moment, he could do no wrong. 293 00:20:11,254 --> 00:20:14,433 And to be honest, we all basked in the reflective glory 294 00:20:14,633 --> 00:20:16,092 of working for Mr. Ghosn. 295 00:20:26,311 --> 00:20:29,814 I think Ghosn enjoyed his newfound fame in Japan. 296 00:20:31,191 --> 00:20:34,152 He gets the blue ribbon from the Japanese emperor. 297 00:20:35,946 --> 00:20:36,747 Time magazine calls him 298 00:20:36,947 --> 00:20:38,999 one of the most respected business executives in the world, 299 00:20:39,199 --> 00:20:40,417 ahead of Bill Gates. 300 00:20:40,617 --> 00:20:42,294 Suddenly, you know, he does dress better. 301 00:20:42,494 --> 00:20:44,454 He... He starts to care about his image. 302 00:20:45,330 --> 00:20:48,041 His appearance does begin to change. 303 00:20:49,042 --> 00:20:50,794 He has an eye operation. 304 00:20:51,670 --> 00:20:53,547 Before he wore these quite thick glasses. 305 00:20:54,756 --> 00:20:57,184 His suits become maybe a little slimmer. 306 00:20:57,384 --> 00:21:01,012 Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached a new era. 307 00:21:01,596 --> 00:21:06,351 There was a survey at the time, you know, asking Japanese women, 308 00:21:06,851 --> 00:21:10,188 you know, which man they would like to father their children with. 309 00:21:11,147 --> 00:21:14,234 And Carlos Ghosn was right up there. 310 00:21:17,946 --> 00:21:22,075 In those early days, he was very much the family man. 311 00:21:22,576 --> 00:21:27,672 You know, his wife, Rita, at that time, um, and his kids were there, and he was... 312 00:21:27,872 --> 00:21:30,133 trying to make it as balanced 313 00:21:30,333 --> 00:21:31,418 as he could. 314 00:21:33,795 --> 00:21:35,722 I was elected Father of the Year. 315 00:21:35,922 --> 00:21:39,426 Wh-which was one of the award that I like the most, 316 00:21:41,011 --> 00:21:43,355 which, by the way, surprised a lot my children. 317 00:21:43,555 --> 00:21:44,898 They... They... 318 00:21:45,098 --> 00:21:48,610 They said that the father of the year should be with his kids all the time, 319 00:21:48,810 --> 00:21:50,195 so which obviously I... was not. 320 00:21:50,395 --> 00:21:51,897 But, in a certain way, it... 321 00:21:52,689 --> 00:21:56,993 Being elected Father of the Year in Japan showed a little bit the emotional bond 322 00:21:57,193 --> 00:22:02,490 that started to be created between me and the country and with the public. 323 00:22:05,243 --> 00:22:07,879 - It's a big square. - It's a huge... 324 00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:11,341 It's just a big square from a good... 325 00:22:11,541 --> 00:22:13,135 Well, there's always... 326 00:22:13,335 --> 00:22:17,589 Ghosn barely ever talked about anything at a personal level. 327 00:22:19,049 --> 00:22:23,270 He's not your, um, down the pub, friendly kind of a guy. 328 00:22:23,470 --> 00:22:27,307 I mean, I think I knew him as well as most, 329 00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:32,112 but to know him, w-wasn't... w-was to know him, at a work level. 330 00:22:32,312 --> 00:22:34,814 It wasn't to know him, really, at a personal level. 331 00:22:36,399 --> 00:22:37,776 He wasn't like that at all. 332 00:22:48,828 --> 00:22:52,457 I think to really understand Carlos Ghosn 333 00:22:54,167 --> 00:22:55,961 you have to know the whole story. 334 00:23:04,761 --> 00:23:08,181 I am deputy director of the news magazine L'Obs. 335 00:23:09,182 --> 00:23:12,310 I interviewed Carlos Ghosn frequently. 336 00:23:14,271 --> 00:23:16,823 I have met many CEOs in my career. 337 00:23:17,023 --> 00:23:19,734 Big bosses, French bosses, foreign bosses 338 00:23:20,443 --> 00:23:22,194 but he was always very different. 339 00:23:23,738 --> 00:23:26,491 There was always some kind of tension there. 340 00:23:26,992 --> 00:23:32,538 So I started thinking, "What's his story?" 341 00:23:34,165 --> 00:23:36,668 Something might not be right here. 342 00:23:37,419 --> 00:23:38,887 Then I was talking with someone 343 00:23:39,087 --> 00:23:41,423 who has known Ghosn for a long, long time... 344 00:23:44,926 --> 00:23:48,346 and they said there is a mystery surrounding his father. 345 00:23:52,434 --> 00:23:55,270 His father had supposedly spent some time in prison. 346 00:24:00,483 --> 00:24:02,611 And that's all they would tell me. 347 00:24:06,615 --> 00:24:09,334 This was a story that everyone in Lebanon knew, 348 00:24:09,534 --> 00:24:13,622 but nobody dared to talk about it with Carlos Ghosn. 349 00:24:18,168 --> 00:24:19,469 When you have this in your life 350 00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:21,838 and you run one of the biggest companies in the world 351 00:24:23,006 --> 00:24:24,925 you must keep this secret. 352 00:24:26,384 --> 00:24:29,095 You must be afraid that one day it will come out. 353 00:24:43,944 --> 00:24:46,830 Louis Schweitzer leaves today to his successor, 354 00:24:47,030 --> 00:24:49,207 the fourth largest automotive group in the world. 355 00:24:49,407 --> 00:24:51,460 - In French first, you know... - Okay. 356 00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:54,421 The plan for my succession in 2005 357 00:24:54,621 --> 00:25:00,085 was that he would relinquish his executive position at Nissan 358 00:25:00,835 --> 00:25:04,506 and become chairman and CEO of Renault full-time. 359 00:25:05,006 --> 00:25:08,977 Obviously, Schweitzer would have preferred for me to go directly for Renault 360 00:25:09,177 --> 00:25:11,762 and abandoning Nissan, but I said I'm not gonna do it. 361 00:25:12,682 --> 00:25:14,608 Frankly, I didn't want him to leave. I told him, you know, 362 00:25:14,808 --> 00:25:16,526 "Louis, w-why don't you take another mandate? 363 00:25:16,726 --> 00:25:17,986 Let me finish the job in Nissan." 364 00:25:18,186 --> 00:25:20,939 But he was in a hurry to leave the job of CEO, 365 00:25:21,439 --> 00:25:23,483 and wanted me to... to come back. 366 00:25:24,192 --> 00:25:27,486 So, I decided to go for the two jobs. 367 00:25:30,991 --> 00:25:32,459 He told me, "Look, 368 00:25:32,659 --> 00:25:37,998 I will only stay on as CEO of Nissan till I find a good successor." 369 00:25:38,623 --> 00:25:43,545 And quite stupidly, I must say, I believed him. 370 00:25:44,296 --> 00:25:46,006 What a fool! 371 00:25:47,007 --> 00:25:50,018 He's a superstar in the automobile world, 372 00:25:50,218 --> 00:25:53,397 famed for breathing life back into Nissan. 373 00:25:53,597 --> 00:25:56,274 Now also the new chief executive of Renault, 374 00:25:56,474 --> 00:25:59,019 he'll be leading both firms at once. 375 00:26:01,146 --> 00:26:04,408 It was unheard of for one man 376 00:26:04,608 --> 00:26:09,029 to run two companies of that size simultaneously. 377 00:26:10,614 --> 00:26:16,161 But... to be frank... Part of his motivation was also ambition. 378 00:26:18,914 --> 00:26:20,924 You're gonna have one professional life, 379 00:26:21,124 --> 00:26:23,793 use it to the maximum you can 380 00:26:25,086 --> 00:26:29,423 and then life will give you much more opportunities than you think. 381 00:26:32,552 --> 00:26:36,932 The issue with Ghosn is that he is running a French and a Japanese company 382 00:26:37,515 --> 00:26:39,392 and obviously making a lot of money. 383 00:26:42,187 --> 00:26:44,364 But you-you have to understand, culturally in France, 384 00:26:44,564 --> 00:26:45,907 it's just not considered acceptable 385 00:26:46,107 --> 00:26:48,785 to be making huge salaries the way they do in the US, right? 386 00:26:48,985 --> 00:26:50,954 In the US, if you're running General Motors, or whatever, 387 00:26:51,154 --> 00:26:54,199 you're making 20 million, 25 million, other people are making much more. 388 00:26:54,783 --> 00:26:56,451 In France, that doesn't happen. 389 00:26:57,077 --> 00:27:00,077 Excuse me, Mr. Ghosn, I have some questions for you. 390 00:27:00,330 --> 00:27:02,716 Don't you want to talk about your salary? 391 00:27:02,916 --> 00:27:03,916 Mr. Ghosn? 392 00:27:04,459 --> 00:27:05,794 Anything at all? 393 00:27:06,962 --> 00:27:10,382 Obviously, the French media didn't like the double compensation. 394 00:27:10,966 --> 00:27:15,562 They didn't like the fact that compared to an average CEO in France, 395 00:27:15,762 --> 00:27:18,265 I was overcompensated. 396 00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:22,602 But for me, it's a question... It's a question of fairness. 397 00:27:23,603 --> 00:27:26,481 I mean, my contribution to each company was very clear. 398 00:27:27,065 --> 00:27:30,277 I committed to results, and I made money. 399 00:27:37,576 --> 00:27:40,579 When a new Minister of Economy takes office, 400 00:27:41,663 --> 00:27:43,999 the CEO of Renault comes to see him straight away. 401 00:27:51,715 --> 00:27:52,841 It's dangerous 402 00:27:53,717 --> 00:27:57,011 because one man's grip on power always ends badly. 403 00:28:00,265 --> 00:28:03,435 He never liked it when we spoke about his salary 404 00:28:03,935 --> 00:28:05,061 or his succession. 405 00:28:06,396 --> 00:28:09,691 He would just lower his eyes and beat around the bush, 406 00:28:10,442 --> 00:28:13,069 then drop three or four names, 407 00:28:13,695 --> 00:28:14,905 never the right ones. 408 00:28:16,823 --> 00:28:21,578 He had a strategy of presenting himself as indispensable. 409 00:28:22,621 --> 00:28:26,541 But graveyards are populated with irreplaceable people. 410 00:28:31,796 --> 00:28:37,436 At that stage, he was God, king, queen, prince, 411 00:28:37,636 --> 00:28:39,679 all the power rested with him. 412 00:28:40,722 --> 00:28:42,641 Ghosn looked like 413 00:28:43,475 --> 00:28:45,018 an Asian dictator 414 00:28:45,894 --> 00:28:47,270 in front of the board. 415 00:28:48,271 --> 00:28:50,649 He was surrounded by "yes men" 416 00:28:51,733 --> 00:28:56,655 when what he needed was challenge and debate. 417 00:28:59,074 --> 00:29:01,742 But that was sorely lacking. That's the truth. 418 00:29:05,455 --> 00:29:08,135 Ghosn was essentially free to do what he wants. 419 00:29:08,583 --> 00:29:11,595 You know... there's very little oversight 420 00:29:11,795 --> 00:29:13,513 and he has very few people challenging him. 421 00:29:13,713 --> 00:29:15,140 And, you know, that's okay, 422 00:29:15,340 --> 00:29:17,601 as long as Nissan's doing okay and Renault's doing okay. 423 00:29:17,801 --> 00:29:19,511 But then the Financial Crisis hits... 424 00:29:21,096 --> 00:29:22,272 that's a problem. 425 00:29:22,472 --> 00:29:25,650 The worst financial crisis in modern times, 426 00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:28,945 certainly the largest financial disaster in decades. 427 00:29:29,145 --> 00:29:31,948 Markets plunged as much as 464 points. 428 00:29:32,148 --> 00:29:33,992 Lehman Brothers have filed for bankruptcy. 429 00:29:34,192 --> 00:29:35,160 Traders in Tokyo, 430 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,499 worried about a spreading US recession and credit turmoil, sent stocks down 3.9%. 431 00:29:40,699 --> 00:29:43,335 2008 was a huge global crisis, 432 00:29:43,535 --> 00:29:46,329 and it was a disaster for the car industry as a whole. 433 00:29:47,122 --> 00:29:49,124 It was a car crash, it was an absolute car crash. 434 00:29:50,125 --> 00:29:53,628 Nissan was about six weeks away from running out of cash 435 00:29:54,129 --> 00:29:58,684 and almost everybody, including myself, would buy our own stationery. 436 00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:02,020 I mean, it was that level of, you put your own money into... 437 00:30:02,220 --> 00:30:05,190 Into basically keeping the... the... The com... the company going. 438 00:30:05,390 --> 00:30:07,818 Renault had to get a loan from the government, 439 00:30:08,018 --> 00:30:10,195 Nissan weren't sure how they were gonna pay payroll. 440 00:30:10,395 --> 00:30:12,781 And you're trying to preserve cash, and you're trying to survive, 441 00:30:12,981 --> 00:30:14,825 and your share price is going down the toilet. 442 00:30:15,025 --> 00:30:16,868 For Ghosn, everything at work is on fire. 443 00:30:17,068 --> 00:30:19,955 Already, running two companies is impossible when its calm waters, 444 00:30:20,155 --> 00:30:21,248 but this is the Financial Crisis, 445 00:30:21,448 --> 00:30:23,617 and he's trying to keep these two companies afloat. 446 00:30:24,117 --> 00:30:27,454 There was almost always a crisis in one company or the other. 447 00:30:28,538 --> 00:30:30,081 We just saw him less and less, 448 00:30:30,916 --> 00:30:34,044 and you saw it again with the tsunami in Japan. 449 00:30:41,968 --> 00:30:47,265 I'm in my office at Nissan, and you hear this "buh-boom." 450 00:30:48,433 --> 00:30:52,269 And then, I'm on the 21st floor, and this building starts to shake. 451 00:31:00,862 --> 00:31:02,738 It must have lasted nine minutes. 452 00:31:06,034 --> 00:31:09,496 We're scared to death. I thought we were done. 453 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,929 A massive earthquake has hit the northeast of Japan, 454 00:31:18,129 --> 00:31:20,215 triggering a devastating tsunami. 455 00:31:37,524 --> 00:31:43,121 The first thing I did was to go send an email to Carlos Ghosn, 456 00:31:43,321 --> 00:31:44,906 'cause he was in Renault. 457 00:31:45,949 --> 00:31:48,368 It was basically, "We just had this big earthquake, 458 00:31:48,952 --> 00:31:50,295 so many people died. 459 00:31:50,495 --> 00:31:54,040 We better get together quick to figure out what we're gonna do." 460 00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:58,804 But at the same time, he's got his other company, 461 00:31:59,004 --> 00:32:02,131 and he's got to lead that through the Financial Crisis. 462 00:32:03,967 --> 00:32:05,811 I was in Japan. I stayed in Japan, 463 00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:08,689 as did many of my colleagues because we were... We felt a... 464 00:32:08,889 --> 00:32:12,225 A bond with the Japanese that were going through... through hell. 465 00:32:12,726 --> 00:32:15,687 But he didn't come, I think, for almost ten days. 466 00:32:21,985 --> 00:32:25,404 It showed that, you know, he wasn't a superhuman. 467 00:32:27,282 --> 00:32:29,200 A lot of mistakes got made. 468 00:32:30,702 --> 00:32:33,922 Both companies craved his attention. 469 00:32:34,122 --> 00:32:38,209 And when it wasn't there, then... Then basically the cancer started to bite. 470 00:32:39,753 --> 00:32:42,222 Everything just keeps spiraling out of control, spiraling out of control. 471 00:32:42,422 --> 00:32:45,717 And Ghosn looks like an absentee boss because he's not even there. 472 00:32:46,301 --> 00:32:47,301 And then... 473 00:32:50,222 --> 00:32:52,357 you looked over the fence and your boss 474 00:32:52,557 --> 00:32:56,435 was seemingly having this celebrity lifestyle. 475 00:32:58,730 --> 00:33:00,490 And that started to irk. 476 00:33:00,690 --> 00:33:04,453 I was fed up of... of basically defending Ghosn when, underneath, 477 00:33:04,653 --> 00:33:08,156 I was really starting to resent his style. 478 00:33:12,744 --> 00:33:17,340 I also became aware of the issues with Rita and the breakup of his marriage, 479 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:20,710 and it was obvious to everybody that he wasn't wearing a wedding ring. 480 00:33:21,836 --> 00:33:22,929 I mean, frankly, in my mind, 481 00:33:23,129 --> 00:33:27,217 there was a clear change in his priorities over that period. 482 00:33:44,276 --> 00:33:47,153 I met Carlos at a gala in New York. 483 00:33:47,904 --> 00:33:53,409 I was on a high because, he was super charming and super charismatic. 484 00:33:54,328 --> 00:33:56,546 I mean, when he walks into the room, 485 00:33:56,746 --> 00:34:02,511 you feel how powerful he is in his character and his intelligence, 486 00:34:02,711 --> 00:34:07,591 and... when he walks in a room, everyone looks at him. 487 00:34:08,842 --> 00:34:11,812 I... I was, magnetized by her. 488 00:34:12,012 --> 00:34:14,014 I... I... I liked her instantly. 489 00:34:14,597 --> 00:34:18,809 Very joyful person, very spontaneous, very pretty. 490 00:34:19,352 --> 00:34:21,688 So, for me, it was, "Wow." 491 00:34:22,188 --> 00:34:24,533 I guess this is when the spark happened between us 492 00:34:24,733 --> 00:34:27,568 and, we started seeing each other. 493 00:34:30,195 --> 00:34:32,790 Carole is a lot more glamorous than Rita. 494 00:34:32,990 --> 00:34:36,211 She's kind of this tall blonde, loves to have fun. 495 00:34:36,411 --> 00:34:41,749 She definitely has an aura, and she likes the finer things in life. 496 00:34:42,918 --> 00:34:46,430 People criticized me, that, "Since he met her, he's changed. 497 00:34:46,630 --> 00:34:48,181 He's become more superficial." 498 00:34:48,381 --> 00:34:50,642 But maybe it was the phase of his life. 499 00:34:50,842 --> 00:34:52,978 Maybe 'cause when you're happy, and you're in love, 500 00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:54,354 you wanna do fun things. 501 00:34:54,554 --> 00:34:58,308 You change. It's not all about business. 502 00:35:11,238 --> 00:35:14,916 The party in Versailles, paid for by Renault and Nissan, 503 00:35:15,116 --> 00:35:17,160 it was meant to be celebrating the alliance. 504 00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,874 But if you look at the guest list, it is majority friends and family. 505 00:35:23,917 --> 00:35:26,845 There was his lawyers, his kids, 506 00:35:27,045 --> 00:35:30,756 people who he knew from his days in Lebanon, from his old school. 507 00:35:32,592 --> 00:35:33,477 All of these people there, 508 00:35:33,677 --> 00:35:35,604 essentially not because they had anything to do with the alliance, 509 00:35:35,804 --> 00:35:39,274 but because they had a personal or business relationship 510 00:35:39,474 --> 00:35:41,226 with Carlos Ghosn himself. 511 00:35:43,061 --> 00:35:46,355 And it was on his birthday, which was a bad look. 512 00:35:47,399 --> 00:35:50,619 Ladies and gentlemen, and dear friends, 513 00:35:50,819 --> 00:35:52,070 good evening and welcome. 514 00:35:52,571 --> 00:35:57,417 As some of you know, this month marks the 15th anniversary 515 00:35:57,617 --> 00:35:59,836 of the Renault-Nissan Alliance. 516 00:36:00,036 --> 00:36:02,289 While that's not why we are gathered here, 517 00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:06,677 the anniversary did make us realize the time was right 518 00:36:06,877 --> 00:36:10,764 to thank those who have helped our alliance 519 00:36:10,964 --> 00:36:13,600 grow and prosper. 520 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,269 He has a speech saying, 521 00:36:16,469 --> 00:36:21,358 "Thank you, to all of you, for what you've done to support the alliance." 522 00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:24,528 But actually, what they've done is just supported Carlos Ghosn. 523 00:36:24,728 --> 00:36:26,196 And so, we get into this problem of, 524 00:36:26,396 --> 00:36:29,065 like, "Where does Carlos Ghosn end? Where does the alliance start?" 525 00:36:32,277 --> 00:36:35,622 If you celebrate 15 years of the alliance, 526 00:36:35,822 --> 00:36:41,620 it would not seem completely unnatural to invite the guy who created it. 527 00:36:43,413 --> 00:36:45,040 And this was not the case. 528 00:36:46,124 --> 00:36:48,168 I was not invited. 529 00:36:49,544 --> 00:36:54,466 Therefore, I did not consider it a celebration of 15 years of the alliance. 530 00:36:56,551 --> 00:36:59,554 There was quite a lot of resentment in the company. 531 00:37:00,931 --> 00:37:03,971 He was enjoying the fruits of his labor rather more than he should have been. 532 00:37:09,397 --> 00:37:12,567 Ghosn was no demigod in France, 533 00:37:13,235 --> 00:37:17,280 and having those parties at Versailles was a mistake. 534 00:37:20,033 --> 00:37:25,372 It was a sign of the risks associated with having strong personality. 535 00:37:25,956 --> 00:37:31,253 That is the risk of losing touch... with reality. 536 00:37:33,797 --> 00:37:34,931 French carmaker, Renault, 537 00:37:35,131 --> 00:37:39,519 has seen its shares rise up at 8% after reports of merger negotiations 538 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,480 with its Japanese partner, Nissan. 539 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,766 Neither Renault nor Nissan have commented on the situation. 540 00:37:45,517 --> 00:37:49,321 There was always, from the day Carlos Ghosn became CEO, 541 00:37:49,521 --> 00:37:55,402 a fear within Nissan that eventually the alliance would become a merger. 542 00:37:56,486 --> 00:37:58,789 But he's always said, "Mergers don't work in the auto industry. 543 00:37:58,989 --> 00:38:00,040 I don't want a merger." 544 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,325 I cannot make one team 545 00:38:03,451 --> 00:38:05,003 of Japanese and French, 546 00:38:05,203 --> 00:38:08,507 managing a company which would be neither Japanese nor French. 547 00:38:08,707 --> 00:38:09,716 It doesn't work. 548 00:38:09,916 --> 00:38:12,135 But then what Ghosn is saying changes. 549 00:38:12,335 --> 00:38:15,797 Will Nissan and Renault be merged? 550 00:38:16,673 --> 00:38:17,641 - Will it look different? - Um, 551 00:38:17,841 --> 00:38:19,142 - nobody can answer this question. - Okay. 552 00:38:19,342 --> 00:38:20,727 - Then next question. - Nobody. 553 00:38:20,927 --> 00:38:24,231 At that point, the Japanese are completely alarmed that they... 554 00:38:24,431 --> 00:38:26,274 they cannot trust him. 555 00:38:26,474 --> 00:38:28,735 Nissan-Renault looking to make their marriage official, 556 00:38:28,935 --> 00:38:31,897 and reports say now they may officially merge. 557 00:38:34,649 --> 00:38:36,410 There was a group of people that feared 558 00:38:36,610 --> 00:38:41,957 that the merger would erase Nissan as the Japanese company that it is, 559 00:38:42,157 --> 00:38:44,751 and it would also install Ghosn, in their telling, 560 00:38:44,951 --> 00:38:49,047 as almost like this pharaoh, top of the pyramid, ruler for life, 561 00:38:49,247 --> 00:38:52,666 godlike character that would be not removable in the future. 562 00:38:55,128 --> 00:38:59,174 As a head of Nissan, I need to protect the company. 563 00:38:59,799 --> 00:39:02,093 This is my duty. 564 00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:04,638 That was my position. 565 00:39:07,307 --> 00:39:09,818 Ghosn was thinking about a merger, I'm sure. 566 00:39:10,018 --> 00:39:14,531 But I think bigger than that, Carlos Ghosn was obsessed 567 00:39:14,731 --> 00:39:18,693 with his standing in the industry. 568 00:39:21,613 --> 00:39:23,197 He wanted the adulation. 569 00:39:25,367 --> 00:39:29,454 He wanted very clearly to be, in control of the... 570 00:39:29,955 --> 00:39:33,833 The biggest car company in the world, but he also wanted to be paid for it. 571 00:39:38,046 --> 00:39:41,007 I think Ghosn believes that money is part of your scorecard, 572 00:39:41,758 --> 00:39:44,770 what he calls your "scorecard," which is, like, part of your worth, right? 573 00:39:44,970 --> 00:39:45,937 Your self-worth. 574 00:39:46,137 --> 00:39:51,518 And so, if you make lots of money, then to him, you're worth more. 575 00:39:53,144 --> 00:39:55,730 I... I have always looked for autonomy, 576 00:39:56,231 --> 00:40:01,444 which means that you don't depend on other people to conduct your own life. 577 00:40:02,028 --> 00:40:04,030 So, when you say money is important, 578 00:40:05,156 --> 00:40:07,793 you should put it in this context of autonomy. 579 00:40:07,993 --> 00:40:13,665 Intellectual autonomy, emotional autonomy, physical autonomy, and financial autonomy. 580 00:40:20,672 --> 00:40:23,600 So later, I got access to the contents of Ghosn's phone, 581 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,177 which were a bit of a Rosetta Stone in this case. 582 00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:32,734 And in one of his phone notes, 583 00:40:32,934 --> 00:40:35,979 investigators believe that he's tallying up his wealth across the world. 584 00:40:36,855 --> 00:40:39,950 He has 52 million in Japan, 62 million in Europe, 585 00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:41,702 31.5 million in Switzerland, 586 00:40:41,902 --> 00:40:45,322 39 million in Lebanon, 97 million in America. 587 00:40:46,031 --> 00:40:49,501 And then he writes at the bottom... 588 00:40:49,701 --> 00:40:52,329 which means, "Complete through merger to a billion." 589 00:40:58,376 --> 00:40:59,177 Breaking news. 590 00:40:59,377 --> 00:41:02,631 Nissan's chairman, Carlos Ghosn has been arrested. 591 00:41:05,842 --> 00:41:08,645 Carlos Ghosn has been held in solitary confinement. 592 00:41:08,845 --> 00:41:10,555 We were scared. 593 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,892 They wanted me to turn on Carlos Ghosn. 594 00:41:15,143 --> 00:41:17,229 I think he is a man who committed a crime. 595 00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:20,310 Is it half a chance it is a palace coup? 596 00:41:22,317 --> 00:41:23,401 Who are you people? 597 00:41:24,486 --> 00:41:27,489 I don't think we've ever seen a scandal like this, 598 00:41:28,114 --> 00:41:31,084 where there are things that were found that don't pass the smell test. 599 00:41:31,284 --> 00:41:34,412 There was a light at the end of the tunnel, and I was that light. 600 00:41:35,163 --> 00:41:37,374 My mission was to get him out of there. 51154

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