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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:28,529 --> 00:01:30,874 Are the lights on in that residence? 4 00:01:30,899 --> 00:01:33,460 No, the residence is behind that. 5 00:02:32,695 --> 00:02:34,327 There's more? 6 00:02:49,008 --> 00:02:50,024 Oh, fuck. 7 00:02:51,953 --> 00:02:52,953 Kristo... 8 00:02:56,426 --> 00:02:59,254 Is this the one that's squealing? - I don't know. 9 00:02:59,910 --> 00:03:03,254 What are you doing? - I'm taking it out or it'll die. 10 00:03:04,484 --> 00:03:08,757 Though that might be for the best. - It's best if it dies now, 11 00:03:08,843 --> 00:03:12,437 not in six months after going through all these phases. 12 00:03:14,867 --> 00:03:16,547 Let's get out of here. 13 00:03:18,484 --> 00:03:20,284 I don't want to watch this. 14 00:03:27,924 --> 00:03:30,166 Seriously, I can't do this. 15 00:03:38,505 --> 00:03:40,839 A sow that had recently given birth 16 00:03:40,864 --> 00:03:42,304 tried to lie down, 17 00:03:42,349 --> 00:03:45,138 crushing two or three of her piglets to death. 18 00:03:45,179 --> 00:03:51,200 It's a relatively common thing to happen. 19 00:03:53,176 --> 00:03:57,974 At this point I no longer wanted to be the person who leaves you to die. 20 00:04:01,832 --> 00:04:04,365 All I ever wanted was to love animals. 21 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,738 JUST ANIMALS 22 00:04:20,785 --> 00:04:21,825 Little kitty! 23 00:04:34,182 --> 00:04:36,916 As a child, animals were everything to me. 24 00:04:40,636 --> 00:04:43,103 And I wasn't aware I was eating them. 25 00:04:46,675 --> 00:04:48,752 This is my older sister Mai. 26 00:04:48,777 --> 00:04:50,534 She was my biggest idol. 27 00:04:53,869 --> 00:04:57,326 She taught me how to play games and to do other things. 28 00:04:57,351 --> 00:05:02,045 Go, Saila! Watch out for the tree! Yay! 29 00:05:02,070 --> 00:05:04,709 Mum, what animal eats sausages? 30 00:05:05,858 --> 00:05:08,318 Mai animal does. 31 00:05:08,343 --> 00:05:11,334 I'm not an animal. - Sure you are. 32 00:05:11,359 --> 00:05:12,359 I'm not! 33 00:05:13,818 --> 00:05:15,498 Come take a look, Saila! 34 00:05:16,451 --> 00:05:19,372 What's that...? Wow! 35 00:05:20,481 --> 00:05:22,997 Is it a dragon guarding a castle? 36 00:05:28,559 --> 00:05:31,414 Oh, you're going your own way. 37 00:05:32,264 --> 00:05:33,881 Then there was... 38 00:05:35,852 --> 00:05:38,873 ...the friendship book where I wrote 39 00:05:39,117 --> 00:05:43,127 I'd become a police officer when I grew up. 40 00:05:45,081 --> 00:05:48,969 I wrote ''Helper, but not of religious sort.'' 41 00:05:51,124 --> 00:05:54,042 I hope grandma didn't see that. 42 00:05:54,684 --> 00:05:57,149 Saila! You have no photo. 43 00:05:57,974 --> 00:06:00,318 Guess you weren't in school yet. 44 00:06:01,082 --> 00:06:03,746 Favourite food: sausage soup. 45 00:06:06,845 --> 00:06:10,430 ''Things I hate: robbers, war and rust.'' 46 00:06:10,455 --> 00:06:11,455 Rust! 47 00:06:15,874 --> 00:06:18,220 My biggest nemesis. 48 00:06:19,887 --> 00:06:24,331 ''Things I like: Disney, comics, animals, monkeys.'' 49 00:06:35,907 --> 00:06:39,641 I was five when Mai went nuts about changing the world. 50 00:06:42,251 --> 00:06:46,667 During summer holiday, dad took her to the Greenpeace office each day. 51 00:06:53,172 --> 00:06:57,323 I figured all kids imagined they have to save the whole world. 52 00:07:11,043 --> 00:07:13,436 I took direct action 53 00:07:13,485 --> 00:07:17,704 because I want to stand up to the things that I find important. 54 00:07:17,729 --> 00:07:21,375 I think it would be plain madness not to act. 55 00:07:22,284 --> 00:07:25,653 Mai got deeper and deeper into activism. 56 00:07:28,036 --> 00:07:31,268 I just wanted to be a normal, party-loving teen. 57 00:07:34,149 --> 00:07:39,286 When the activists' videos showed me how farm animals are treated, I was shocked. 58 00:07:40,838 --> 00:07:43,684 I decided to take part in the secret filming trips. 59 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,178 My whole circle of friends changed. 60 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:57,997 All those around me believed in something 61 00:07:58,022 --> 00:08:01,552 and were willing to do insane things for the cause. 62 00:08:01,582 --> 00:08:03,407 It felt revolutionary. 63 00:08:03,432 --> 00:08:06,337 None of the truths I had previously learned mattered anymore. 64 00:08:06,362 --> 00:08:09,003 I haven't been able to leave it behind. 65 00:08:10,298 --> 00:08:14,350 I must've tried dozens of times 66 00:08:15,083 --> 00:08:20,741 to just forget about it all and ignore those issues. 67 00:08:20,766 --> 00:08:23,794 I can't do it, but at the same time 68 00:08:23,819 --> 00:08:29,350 I'm not sure if an activist who runs around filming at night 69 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:31,816 and whatever... 70 00:08:31,988 --> 00:08:35,640 Was it really me? Or was I just copying you? 71 00:08:40,874 --> 00:08:42,940 Can you put the lights back on? 72 00:08:53,342 --> 00:08:56,966 We had a deficit of 2,000 euros on our account. 73 00:08:56,995 --> 00:09:01,467 We couldn't afford to print a new issue for the magazine let alone mail it. 74 00:09:03,109 --> 00:09:05,242 After the photos were published, 75 00:09:05,506 --> 00:09:10,545 Justice for Animals managed to raise 20,000 euros 76 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:12,713 in just a few days. 77 00:09:13,151 --> 00:09:21,043 I've been involved with this organisation since 1996, 78 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,818 and these two campaigns, along with others like them, 79 00:09:25,843 --> 00:09:31,269 have lifted the animal rights movement to a whole new level. 80 00:09:31,324 --> 00:09:34,566 It's been a lot of hard work. 81 00:09:35,075 --> 00:09:39,393 People have filmed hundreds of farms. 82 00:09:39,418 --> 00:09:43,746 Out of all these people, two have been brave enough 83 00:09:43,771 --> 00:09:45,526 to have gone public. 84 00:09:47,127 --> 00:09:49,842 Karry and Saila have been prosecuted 85 00:09:49,867 --> 00:09:52,713 for revealing the true nature of pig farming in Finland. 86 00:09:52,738 --> 00:09:55,409 You said you were afraid of the consequences. 87 00:09:57,968 --> 00:10:00,975 Were you afraid of entering the farms? - Sure. 88 00:10:01,336 --> 00:10:03,536 Could you tell us a bit about it? 89 00:10:04,754 --> 00:10:08,386 When you entered a pig farm for the fist time, 90 00:10:08,515 --> 00:10:10,516 how did that make you feel? 91 00:10:10,541 --> 00:10:12,465 What was it like? 92 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:16,235 When filming it, I had to block my thoughts 93 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:19,965 so it all came to me only after weeks. 94 00:10:57,448 --> 00:11:04,843 I started realising that they were all real, individual animals 95 00:11:04,868 --> 00:11:08,198 and we just left them there. 96 00:11:09,863 --> 00:11:17,863 I've had dreams where the animals ask me why I left 97 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,813 and shut the door behind them. 98 00:12:01,673 --> 00:12:04,719 Play that beautiful music again, it's so soothing. 99 00:12:04,744 --> 00:12:06,497 Blast it at full volume. 100 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,773 It's only a live TV broadcast... 101 00:12:28,506 --> 00:12:32,480 Welcome, activists Saila Kivelä and Karry Hedberg. 102 00:12:33,602 --> 00:12:39,753 12 pig farmers are demanding 180,000 euros as compensations from you. 103 00:12:40,984 --> 00:12:45,857 The prosecution claims you're guilty of defamation, 104 00:12:45,882 --> 00:12:49,111 criminal trespassing and the spreading of swine erysipelas. 105 00:12:49,570 --> 00:12:54,258 Saila could be facing probation and Karry an actual prison sentence, 106 00:12:54,283 --> 00:12:58,438 so why did you want to come out to the public? 107 00:12:59,686 --> 00:13:04,482 I want to speak directly about these issues, 108 00:13:04,522 --> 00:13:07,344 and I want to live in a society where it is possible to do so. 109 00:13:07,369 --> 00:13:10,264 That's admirable. Thank you, Karry and Saila. 110 00:13:10,289 --> 00:13:12,744 I hope you don't end up in prison. 111 00:13:13,018 --> 00:13:17,041 Let's look at some of the footage you've shot. 112 00:13:17,188 --> 00:13:20,147 It's not for the faint of heart, 113 00:13:20,172 --> 00:13:25,293 so you might want to cover your eyes for the next 40 seconds. 114 00:13:38,393 --> 00:13:42,279 Minister Anttila, it's a huge problem 115 00:13:42,304 --> 00:13:46,307 if we have a law that doesn't allow pigs to live a good life. 116 00:13:46,341 --> 00:13:48,796 We're tightening up the norms. 117 00:13:48,821 --> 00:13:53,081 Two years ago you said you'd consider it, but nothing happened. 118 00:13:53,238 --> 00:13:56,954 We are working on the new animal welfare legislation... 119 00:13:56,979 --> 00:14:00,246 We were promised changes to the animal welfare legislation. 120 00:14:00,871 --> 00:14:04,030 I had to start following what would happen. 121 00:14:04,055 --> 00:14:07,914 Would you allow us to film there? 122 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,521 None of the people from the industry were found criminally liable. 123 00:14:13,729 --> 00:14:17,892 Do you think it's right to bring possibly stolen animals 124 00:14:17,917 --> 00:14:20,336 to a public space? 125 00:14:20,361 --> 00:14:23,215 {\an8}Mind if I ask you about pigs? - Not now. 126 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:25,849 After the meeting? 127 00:14:25,994 --> 00:14:27,913 How about now? 128 00:14:27,938 --> 00:14:31,195 I told you I'm not giving any comments 129 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:36,329 so people won't jump into conclusions before next week's trial. 130 00:14:36,968 --> 00:14:43,360 Her family farm was exposed in 2007, and it had all the same problems. 131 00:14:43,974 --> 00:14:47,188 The ministry says you've hindered the new law. 132 00:14:47,213 --> 00:14:49,231 We'll talk after the trial. 133 00:14:49,256 --> 00:14:53,482 This isn't about the trial but the new animal welfare legislation. 134 00:14:56,046 --> 00:14:59,853 The ministry says you stopped the process. 135 00:14:59,878 --> 00:15:02,051 Eventually the ministry took action. 136 00:15:02,076 --> 00:15:06,973 They granted nearly 400,000 euros for fixing the tainted image of pork. 137 00:15:21,121 --> 00:15:25,071 The pig farmers will probably comment on my shoes... 138 00:15:26,873 --> 00:15:30,946 ...thinking they're made of leather. 139 00:15:41,291 --> 00:15:42,297 Bye, dear. 140 00:15:42,322 --> 00:15:43,322 Bye. 141 00:15:43,347 --> 00:15:47,431 Keep a clear head, both of you. - Yeah, sure. 142 00:15:47,956 --> 00:15:50,868 Bye. - Good luck. 143 00:15:53,223 --> 00:15:56,928 I don't think I can keep my thoughts very clear. 144 00:15:57,956 --> 00:16:00,745 Sure you can. - Okay, bye then. 145 00:16:00,770 --> 00:16:01,917 Bye. 146 00:16:03,324 --> 00:16:04,986 Stay safe. 147 00:16:28,291 --> 00:16:31,762 Are those the farmers back there. 148 00:16:32,108 --> 00:16:35,008 Most likely. I don't know what they look like, 149 00:16:35,088 --> 00:16:37,088 but I think so. 150 00:16:49,541 --> 00:16:52,465 Now that you've visited various pig farms, 151 00:16:52,490 --> 00:16:56,193 what did you think of the conditions at my farm? 152 00:16:58,011 --> 00:17:00,512 Depends on the point of reference. 153 00:17:00,537 --> 00:17:03,505 I think the whole basis here is wrong. Why do we... 154 00:17:03,530 --> 00:17:06,628 Just answer whether the conditions at my farm especially... 155 00:17:06,653 --> 00:17:13,179 I think these animals are not living a good life by any means. 156 00:17:13,204 --> 00:17:16,963 Pigs are extremely intelligent. 157 00:17:16,988 --> 00:17:20,746 According to some studies, as intelligent as a 3-year-old child. 158 00:17:20,771 --> 00:17:23,371 So you think the pigs suffer in my care? 159 00:17:24,095 --> 00:17:25,095 Yes. 160 00:17:28,846 --> 00:17:30,913 You think I'm an animal abuser? 161 00:17:34,851 --> 00:17:38,579 Animals are suffering in the industrial production we have today, 162 00:17:38,604 --> 00:17:43,021 and I think we should question the need for such production. 163 00:17:46,135 --> 00:17:50,175 How do you know the livestock density at my farm? 164 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,249 If you keep the animals so that they can't even turn around... 165 00:17:54,274 --> 00:17:59,606 Shouldn't you know what... - The livestock density at your farm is? 166 00:17:59,631 --> 00:18:01,682 No, I shouldn't. 167 00:18:10,822 --> 00:18:18,822 Our case is taken to the Court of Appeal and will take years. 168 00:18:21,815 --> 00:18:24,305 This all feels like such insignificant tinkering. 169 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:27,474 It's so far removed from the question of what happens to all those animals. 170 00:18:29,361 --> 00:18:31,983 Nobody talks about that. 171 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,302 Grandma is really worried. 172 00:18:41,671 --> 00:18:46,090 She hopes I wouldn't do anything like this. 173 00:18:48,596 --> 00:18:52,452 That I would focus on... 174 00:18:54,416 --> 00:18:56,726 ...the real matters. 175 00:18:57,740 --> 00:18:59,782 Whatever those might be. 176 00:19:01,546 --> 00:19:03,746 Studying and a career, I suppose. 177 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:13,010 But I can't imagine a life without these things. 178 00:19:21,213 --> 00:19:24,863 You shouldn't enter other people's property. 179 00:19:26,124 --> 00:19:29,059 It's a crime. I read it in the papers. 180 00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:30,524 It's actually not. 181 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:36,659 Well, that's what it said in the papers anyway. 182 00:19:37,608 --> 00:19:41,726 Violence of domestic peace is, but that's not the case here. 183 00:19:42,274 --> 00:19:46,213 Will you pour Matti some coffee, Saila? 184 00:19:46,238 --> 00:19:50,342 Sure. - And for Ritva, too. 185 00:20:04,283 --> 00:20:05,811 Saila! 186 00:20:09,460 --> 00:20:10,767 Saila! 187 00:20:11,392 --> 00:20:14,383 Look. - We have an egg! 188 00:20:14,506 --> 00:20:17,418 An egg! - What a lovely egg. 189 00:20:19,506 --> 00:20:21,905 Look, dad. - Yeah. 190 00:20:22,686 --> 00:20:24,046 It's a bit dirty. 191 00:20:25,387 --> 00:20:28,266 I remember when I was around six 192 00:20:28,326 --> 00:20:30,993 and we were sitting at the dinner table. 193 00:20:31,193 --> 00:20:34,620 I had this sausage in front of me. 194 00:20:34,776 --> 00:20:37,120 I didn't quite get what it was. 195 00:20:37,154 --> 00:20:43,470 I asked dad how it was possible it came from an animal, 196 00:20:43,495 --> 00:20:45,175 how was that allowed? 197 00:20:45,456 --> 00:20:51,551 Dad told me animals aren't capable 198 00:20:51,576 --> 00:20:55,636 of the same things we are 199 00:20:55,704 --> 00:20:59,017 and that they can't talk, so it's okay. 200 00:20:59,042 --> 00:21:03,570 I kept staring at my sister Tuuli at the table. 201 00:21:03,595 --> 00:21:05,914 She has a rare learning disability, 202 00:21:05,939 --> 00:21:09,753 and I was so confused because Tuuli couldn't do those things either. 203 00:21:43,846 --> 00:21:45,834 Of course I'm nervous. 204 00:21:46,449 --> 00:21:50,131 But at the same time I feel kind of indifferent. 205 00:21:51,616 --> 00:21:54,761 I'd rather go to jail than pay massive compensations. 206 00:21:55,497 --> 00:21:58,656 If I have to pay massive compensations, I'll move abroad. 207 00:22:19,303 --> 00:22:23,020 In the case of Prosecutor versus Saila Kivelä and Karry Hedberg, 208 00:22:23,045 --> 00:22:27,596 the court finds Hedberg guilty of one count of criminal trespassing, 209 00:22:27,621 --> 00:22:31,268 sentencing him to 20 days of probation. 210 00:22:32,886 --> 00:22:36,580 In the case of the defamation charges, the court finds 211 00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:40,520 that the filming was an appropriate, albeit acrimonious, form of criticism. 212 00:22:41,402 --> 00:22:44,984 The accused Kivelä is found not guilty. 213 00:23:02,768 --> 00:23:04,688 What the heck? 214 00:23:04,713 --> 00:23:07,032 Oh, no. I'm so embarrassed. 215 00:23:11,663 --> 00:23:15,213 ''Former pig farmer Jorma Tuominen is one of those 216 00:23:15,246 --> 00:23:18,907 whose farms Saila Kivelä and Karry Hedberg filmed 217 00:23:18,932 --> 00:23:22,545 for the organisation Justice for Animals in 2009.'' 218 00:23:22,570 --> 00:23:24,688 What the hell? That's not true. 219 00:23:24,713 --> 00:23:28,594 ''The court didn't find anyone guilty, says Tuominen.'' 220 00:23:28,619 --> 00:23:31,886 ''The activists claimed I treated my pigs poorly, 221 00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:33,807 but I don't feel guilty.'' 222 00:23:35,849 --> 00:23:38,606 ''The way I see it, it was never proved 223 00:23:38,631 --> 00:23:41,307 that there were paralysed pigs at my farm.'' 224 00:23:52,211 --> 00:23:55,637 Jorma Tuominen. - Hi, this is Saila Kivelä. 225 00:23:56,374 --> 00:23:59,075 Am I calling at a bad moment? 226 00:23:59,298 --> 00:24:04,521 Not at all. - Okay. I suppose you remember who I am. 227 00:24:04,546 --> 00:24:07,780 I do. This is a big surprise. 228 00:24:07,805 --> 00:24:12,211 Yeah, so I thought I'd call you, 229 00:24:12,236 --> 00:24:13,916 as the trial is now over 230 00:24:13,941 --> 00:24:15,693 as far as I know. 231 00:24:16,162 --> 00:24:18,851 That's right. - So... 232 00:24:18,876 --> 00:24:22,289 So would it be possible for us to meet? 233 00:24:29,164 --> 00:24:32,211 You can watch, doesn't matter anymore. 234 00:24:32,236 --> 00:24:34,273 Three, zero... 235 00:24:34,361 --> 00:24:35,957 I've forgotten it. 236 00:24:38,715 --> 00:24:41,851 Had to install this after your visit. 237 00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:44,849 So... 238 00:24:45,389 --> 00:24:47,789 I've set a minefield for you people. 239 00:24:48,045 --> 00:24:49,068 Right. 240 00:24:49,295 --> 00:24:51,784 See that white thing up there? 241 00:24:52,353 --> 00:24:54,033 It's a motion sensor. 242 00:24:54,808 --> 00:24:59,898 And this box here sends alerts to my phone. 243 00:25:00,456 --> 00:25:03,659 When did you install these? - After your visit. 244 00:25:03,684 --> 00:25:06,158 How long did you continue pig farming after that? 245 00:25:06,615 --> 00:25:09,428 18 months at most. - Okay. 246 00:25:09,942 --> 00:25:14,261 I was so annoyed by the stunt you pulled that I installed these. 247 00:25:14,286 --> 00:25:16,638 I was sure you'd come back. 248 00:25:17,062 --> 00:25:20,377 Because of the trial. I was certain of it. 249 00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:25,777 The smell is still the same. 250 00:25:26,404 --> 00:25:33,011 Yeah, but you got used to it as the years went by. 251 00:25:34,150 --> 00:25:36,549 I did enjoy that work. 252 00:25:37,152 --> 00:25:39,852 I liked taking care of the animals. 253 00:25:43,258 --> 00:25:46,416 You must think I'm just a lousy animal abuser, 254 00:25:46,441 --> 00:25:48,747 but everyone needs to eat. 255 00:25:49,193 --> 00:25:51,961 I do eat as well. - Sure. 256 00:25:52,643 --> 00:25:56,738 But we can't all become vegetarians. 257 00:25:59,762 --> 00:26:01,760 That's for sure. 258 00:26:04,328 --> 00:26:07,709 That's just how it is. 259 00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:13,320 I don't feel like I've lost even if you were right. 260 00:26:15,050 --> 00:26:17,449 But that's just my opinion. 261 00:26:18,831 --> 00:26:23,552 This is not the way to end meat production. 262 00:26:23,577 --> 00:26:25,640 What was the reason behind that? 263 00:26:26,376 --> 00:26:29,110 The big realisation I had 264 00:26:29,490 --> 00:26:33,296 when I first faced the pig farmers during the trial 265 00:26:33,321 --> 00:26:38,573 was that you should never make such accusations 266 00:26:38,598 --> 00:26:40,729 or release the names. 267 00:26:40,754 --> 00:26:45,372 Our intention isn't so single out anyone 268 00:26:45,835 --> 00:26:48,926 and make them carry the blame. 269 00:26:49,071 --> 00:26:57,029 What we criticise is that the animals live in small enclosures for six months 270 00:26:57,054 --> 00:27:01,683 until they are killed. 271 00:27:02,968 --> 00:27:05,543 That is not a good life, 272 00:27:05,568 --> 00:27:08,689 and the reason they're killed isn't good either. 273 00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:15,453 I'm sure you wouldn't want to have false allegations thrown at you either. 274 00:27:16,513 --> 00:27:19,404 I'm sure that's true. 275 00:27:21,736 --> 00:27:25,994 One farmer even committed suicide after the last attack. 276 00:27:26,019 --> 00:27:29,845 It's no small matter to publicly claim 277 00:27:29,870 --> 00:27:32,936 that people are mistreating their animals. 278 00:27:41,084 --> 00:27:44,109 The scandal only affected the farmers. 279 00:27:45,884 --> 00:27:49,701 It's grotesque how the meat industry, politicians and officials blame them 280 00:27:49,726 --> 00:27:52,145 and do nothing themselves. 281 00:27:55,996 --> 00:27:58,451 Who's responsible for this? 282 00:28:29,663 --> 00:28:32,107 Come on. - Yeah 283 00:28:38,122 --> 00:28:41,303 You weren't a so-called normal child. 284 00:28:42,452 --> 00:28:48,724 You had that WWF poster on your wall that said: 285 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,039 ''You can't save the whole world, but you can save a small piece of it.'' 286 00:28:54,064 --> 00:28:57,733 You were like ''What bullshit is this?'' 287 00:28:57,923 --> 00:29:01,717 ''Why can't I save the whole world?'' - Putting me down! 288 00:29:03,247 --> 00:29:06,674 So it was quite special growing up next to someone 289 00:29:07,348 --> 00:29:15,228 who thought so much of herself or what she was capable of. 290 00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:17,458 It's really cool in a way, 291 00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:24,731 but at some point you kind of lose touch with reality. 292 00:29:30,672 --> 00:29:35,331 So when I plunged headfirst into the activist world, 293 00:29:35,356 --> 00:29:39,463 I suddenly felt like I was left alone. 294 00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:41,854 I expected that to be the moment 295 00:29:41,879 --> 00:29:44,095 we would start doing things together. 296 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,800 I was pregnant back then. 297 00:29:51,743 --> 00:29:52,743 Yeah... 298 00:29:53,343 --> 00:29:56,442 We didn't really have any mutual projects. 299 00:29:56,669 --> 00:29:59,029 Yeah, but that's the thing. 300 00:29:59,054 --> 00:30:03,943 That... That I had always thought... 301 00:30:06,929 --> 00:30:09,507 I'm always the one 302 00:30:09,532 --> 00:30:13,283 who wants to do things together. 303 00:30:13,664 --> 00:30:15,982 And you probably never felt the same way. 304 00:30:24,574 --> 00:30:26,774 A reporter wants to come along... 305 00:30:28,594 --> 00:30:30,408 ...to follow us as we film. 306 00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:36,840 That won't be a problem since we're planning a campaign anyway. 307 00:30:38,058 --> 00:30:42,824 I think it's best to have one of us there openly. 308 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:50,072 The more open and honest we can be, the better the story. 309 00:30:51,348 --> 00:30:56,696 Maybe one of us could be there openly. 310 00:30:57,799 --> 00:30:59,960 Do we have that person? 311 00:31:12,338 --> 00:31:14,456 I spoke to my lawyer. 312 00:31:15,394 --> 00:31:20,541 He said I definitely shouldn't go unless I want a suspended sentence. 313 00:31:20,732 --> 00:31:25,994 He said it would look like I was taking the piss out of the judicial system 314 00:31:26,019 --> 00:31:28,666 if I'm openly doing this on television again. 315 00:32:34,082 --> 00:32:35,082 Kristo. 316 00:32:58,264 --> 00:32:59,627 What the fuck? 317 00:33:00,313 --> 00:33:02,422 What the fuck are we doing? 318 00:33:14,696 --> 00:33:15,736 They're dead. 319 00:33:17,899 --> 00:33:19,974 They couldn't... 320 00:33:20,329 --> 00:33:25,773 That's how a mother protects her babies in a place like this. 321 00:33:31,779 --> 00:33:33,151 Next one. 322 00:33:47,958 --> 00:33:50,971 Every single one of those animals we saw 323 00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:52,993 is going to get killed. 324 00:33:58,784 --> 00:34:02,759 It there's nothing else I can do but open the door, 325 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:06,162 film what's happening and leave, 326 00:34:06,187 --> 00:34:08,355 I don't know what I should do. 327 00:34:10,363 --> 00:34:14,964 I always say that the worst thing about this 328 00:34:14,989 --> 00:34:19,070 is that you go in, take a few photos and get the fuck out, but we did more. 329 00:34:19,095 --> 00:34:21,812 That's precisely all we did! - No. 330 00:34:21,889 --> 00:34:27,328 We have the material and we'll give it to the TV channel next Thursday. 331 00:34:27,352 --> 00:34:33,195 It just feels so distant from the reality where it takes place 332 00:34:33,220 --> 00:34:36,960 and how it just keeps on happening even as we speak. 333 00:34:37,452 --> 00:34:39,960 What we should do is to constantly look for 334 00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:45,362 the most effective way to put an end to this shit. 335 00:34:46,198 --> 00:34:48,378 It's just so fucking horrible. 336 00:34:49,698 --> 00:34:52,232 How many years have we been doing this? 337 00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:54,909 Seven? 338 00:34:57,714 --> 00:35:01,159 I sometimes feel like I'm running amok. 339 00:35:01,847 --> 00:35:05,050 Driving straight into a brick wall with nobody at the wheel. 340 00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:11,839 I don't want to do this anymore. 341 00:35:13,878 --> 00:35:14,878 You don't? 342 00:35:28,293 --> 00:35:31,898 Your right to study is valid until July 2016. 343 00:35:31,923 --> 00:35:34,867 It includes the bachelor's and master's degree. 344 00:35:35,094 --> 00:35:37,328 Until July 2016? - That's right. 345 00:35:37,353 --> 00:35:40,703 If you know you won't be completing any studies next semester, 346 00:35:41,031 --> 00:35:44,046 you should enrol as absent. 347 00:35:45,164 --> 00:35:47,390 How many credits do I have now? 348 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,680 61. 349 00:35:57,008 --> 00:36:01,195 This is just a follow-up system we use to support the students... 350 00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:05,194 How the fuck could I be fulltime interested in this? 351 00:36:06,301 --> 00:36:10,660 This is UNI. Animals exist only on peoples plates. 352 00:36:10,832 --> 00:36:13,996 We release these photos year after year, and people are like 353 00:36:14,731 --> 00:36:16,644 ''Hmm, that seems wrong.'' 354 00:36:17,981 --> 00:36:22,590 I wanted to show you a video but the committee wouldn't allow it, 355 00:36:23,325 --> 00:36:26,512 so I'm showing you a few photos. 356 00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:33,284 The executives called these the bad apples of the industry 357 00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:37,512 until it was revealed that their own fur farms were among those filmed. 358 00:36:37,537 --> 00:36:41,590 The videos show the animals killing and even eating each other. 359 00:36:41,615 --> 00:36:44,035 Nobody cares what's happening. 360 00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:46,965 Nobody sees it as our responsibility 361 00:36:46,973 --> 00:36:50,090 to care about how we treat those weaker than us. 362 00:36:50,115 --> 00:36:52,691 More radical politics! 363 00:36:52,716 --> 00:36:54,363 Animal rights! 364 00:36:58,614 --> 00:37:01,051 I'm Mai Kivelä, 32. 365 00:37:01,076 --> 00:37:03,676 That's both my age and candidate number. 366 00:37:05,121 --> 00:37:09,301 I gave this so much of myself and my time. 367 00:37:09,326 --> 00:37:11,330 I took huge risks. 368 00:37:11,752 --> 00:37:19,236 I'm so sick of wading through those fucking shit-filled pigsties. 369 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,013 I just wanna... GET OUT FROM THE SHIT, BLOOD AND DEATH!! 370 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,310 {\an8}I constantly feel that I just don't get something. 371 00:37:56,335 --> 00:37:59,943 {\an8}Something that's totally glorious to everyone else. 372 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,872 Maybe we can deside that it's just fine. If we are not gonna change it. 373 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,680 {\an8}Cages = FINE. 30.000 birds ina a farm = FINE! Taking babes from their mom = OK!!! 374 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,453 They build it too fucked up!! 375 00:39:08,757 --> 00:39:11,296 Kristo kept filming, and his new footage showed 376 00:39:11,321 --> 00:39:14,221 that the reality is worse than my nightmares. 377 00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:23,608 Cows and bulls are stunned in a so-called stunning pen. 378 00:39:23,999 --> 00:39:25,999 When done successfully, 379 00:39:26,024 --> 00:39:29,350 the animal immediately collapses to the ground. 380 00:39:30,678 --> 00:39:32,678 However, this doesn't always happen. 381 00:39:36,014 --> 00:39:39,577 This footage was shot at the Paimio slaughterhouse. 382 00:42:51,412 --> 00:42:54,868 What kind of activist are you if you can't take action? 383 00:42:57,552 --> 00:43:00,208 And if I'm not an activist, what am I? 384 00:43:18,277 --> 00:43:20,769 Kristo is always like... 385 00:43:21,878 --> 00:43:25,394 I feel like he doesn't let me quit. 386 00:43:26,534 --> 00:43:32,042 It's wonderful, but at the same time I feel like he doesn't... 387 00:43:33,824 --> 00:43:37,151 ...realise that I might not... 388 00:43:39,074 --> 00:43:43,042 ...be able to continue all that. 389 00:43:43,354 --> 00:43:45,578 He keeps bringing me new footage, 390 00:43:46,019 --> 00:43:51,456 and each time I see him he has more and more horrible things to show me. 391 00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:57,172 I want to be a part of it, 392 00:43:57,197 --> 00:44:00,013 but at the same time 393 00:44:00,935 --> 00:44:06,474 I feel that I can't... 394 00:44:08,568 --> 00:44:10,419 ...take it anymore. 395 00:44:12,841 --> 00:44:14,341 And I... 396 00:44:14,366 --> 00:44:20,075 When he showed me this horrifying footage of a broiler chicken 397 00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:21,591 and I told him I can't watch it, 398 00:44:21,616 --> 00:44:26,598 he told me not to cry over it since it's already dead. 399 00:44:26,623 --> 00:44:30,935 I felt like my head was about to explode. 400 00:44:33,412 --> 00:44:37,490 I should simply keep in mind that all those animals in the footage, 401 00:44:37,515 --> 00:44:42,169 all those faces and eyes that are staring at me, are already dead. 402 00:44:42,194 --> 00:44:45,714 And that would enable me to do it. If I simply didn't... 403 00:44:46,935 --> 00:44:49,309 ...care anymore. 404 00:44:59,279 --> 00:45:02,263 I turned the camera towards Kristo and Mai. 405 00:45:04,935 --> 00:45:07,943 It was easier to observe them than the animals. 406 00:45:19,388 --> 00:45:23,224 Did you understand why I felt like that? 407 00:45:23,249 --> 00:45:26,544 Why I couldn't go on? - Yeah. 408 00:45:27,865 --> 00:45:29,974 Of course I did, but... 409 00:45:29,999 --> 00:45:31,932 Don't you ever feel that way? 410 00:45:33,177 --> 00:45:34,177 I do. 411 00:45:35,604 --> 00:45:37,557 Just not as strongly as you did. 412 00:45:54,347 --> 00:45:58,909 Do you feel like you've had to give up something important? 413 00:46:00,222 --> 00:46:02,889 Since you've been doing this for so long. 414 00:46:03,691 --> 00:46:07,050 Many people struggle with the realisation 415 00:46:07,168 --> 00:46:13,669 that their own life or the things they do have no meaning. 416 00:46:13,694 --> 00:46:17,214 I don't have to do it, and I think it's a big privilege. 417 00:46:19,005 --> 00:46:23,177 Has it made your relationship with Henna more difficult? 418 00:46:24,146 --> 00:46:25,458 Your daughter. 419 00:46:28,161 --> 00:46:29,161 No. 420 00:46:31,474 --> 00:46:33,927 I'm angry at them because they're able to do it. 421 00:46:33,952 --> 00:46:41,210 I want to blame them for not being able to do it myself... 422 00:46:42,256 --> 00:46:46,335 ...or for being so lost with all this. 423 00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:52,140 I'm also worried about the path that Mai has chosen. 424 00:46:57,499 --> 00:47:00,571 Do you feel like you have to appear in this film? 425 00:47:03,352 --> 00:47:05,859 As a siblingly obligation? - Yeah. 426 00:47:13,008 --> 00:47:14,008 Roll sound. 427 00:47:15,742 --> 00:47:18,334 Camera? - Camera is rolling. 428 00:47:20,625 --> 00:47:22,692 Your first election campaign... 429 00:47:23,977 --> 00:47:27,172 I wasn't really involved in it. 430 00:47:33,172 --> 00:47:35,437 After the elections in 2015, 431 00:47:35,916 --> 00:47:39,804 I worked at an animal welfare organisation for four years. 432 00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:44,289 The new government didn't mention animal welfare in their programme at all. 433 00:47:45,133 --> 00:47:48,570 We launched an appeal 434 00:47:48,610 --> 00:47:51,461 for which we got over 100,000 names. 435 00:47:51,649 --> 00:47:54,406 We also did some lobbying. 436 00:47:54,959 --> 00:47:58,648 We met with various politicians 437 00:47:58,673 --> 00:48:02,919 and wrote a book called New Animal Welfare Act 438 00:48:02,971 --> 00:48:06,244 which we then sent to every MP. 439 00:48:08,744 --> 00:48:11,721 5,5 million people live in Finland. 440 00:48:13,257 --> 00:48:18,205 Over 85 million terrestrial animals are killed each year by the animal industry. 441 00:48:25,038 --> 00:48:29,021 How does Mai still believe she can change the system? 442 00:48:45,574 --> 00:48:48,239 I'm so nervous. - Oh. Why? 443 00:48:49,307 --> 00:48:53,187 I'm scared that you'll get elected 444 00:48:53,212 --> 00:48:57,371 and have to make some stupid decisions. 445 00:48:58,221 --> 00:49:04,081 When you said you wanted to stand as an MP, my first thought was 446 00:49:04,106 --> 00:49:08,925 ''Why would you want to give up your activist spirit?'' 447 00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:12,224 Okay, it's very idealistic, 448 00:49:12,249 --> 00:49:14,620 but it's also very empowering. 449 00:49:14,645 --> 00:49:18,378 I already experienced that 450 00:49:18,654 --> 00:49:22,831 when I was an activist at Greenpeace 451 00:49:22,856 --> 00:49:26,529 and then started working there as an employee. 452 00:49:26,554 --> 00:49:30,296 Suddenly I was so busy with the office work 453 00:49:30,331 --> 00:49:33,985 that I couldn't take part in the activism and international projects. 454 00:49:34,010 --> 00:49:36,772 For the longest time I wondered 455 00:49:38,717 --> 00:49:43,213 whether getting elected would make me less happy personally? 456 00:49:43,377 --> 00:49:45,965 I mean it's easy to imagine... 457 00:49:48,361 --> 00:49:55,826 ...that I would be happier if I just worked in an organisation. 458 00:49:57,128 --> 00:50:00,079 I bet it's different if your old activist work mates 459 00:50:00,104 --> 00:50:03,925 get replaced with some right-wing nuts. 460 00:50:06,797 --> 00:50:10,201 But how much influence would you really have there? 461 00:50:10,339 --> 00:50:15,956 I think the animal welfare legislation is a perfect example of it. 462 00:50:16,042 --> 00:50:22,657 Here we have a system where the fate of millions of animals 463 00:50:22,682 --> 00:50:26,789 is determined by a single law. 464 00:50:26,859 --> 00:50:31,148 All the work the various organisations have done 465 00:50:31,173 --> 00:50:35,595 could be handled with a single vote. 466 00:50:37,555 --> 00:50:42,826 I would go with the dark one. The red one might be too wild. 467 00:50:45,830 --> 00:50:48,902 It's not too boring. It goes well with your hair. 468 00:50:51,168 --> 00:50:52,168 Okay. 469 00:50:54,735 --> 00:50:59,179 If you get elected, you have to be presentable all the time. 470 00:50:59,204 --> 00:51:00,985 Yeah, it's crazy. 471 00:51:01,211 --> 00:51:04,683 You have to look, I don't know... 472 00:51:06,107 --> 00:51:08,902 Smarter. - Yeah. 473 00:51:08,927 --> 00:51:14,909 And I have to start thinking about the way I dress. 474 00:51:25,024 --> 00:51:27,663 Lots of excitement in the air, 475 00:51:27,688 --> 00:51:31,934 but it only makes this broadcast more interesting. 476 00:51:32,403 --> 00:51:34,885 Let's start with the advance votes, 477 00:51:34,911 --> 00:51:38,375 visible at the bottom of the screen. 478 00:51:38,939 --> 00:51:41,743 2617 advance votes. - What? 479 00:51:43,096 --> 00:51:44,902 For me? - Yes. 480 00:51:48,158 --> 00:51:50,388 I got elected! 481 00:51:54,295 --> 00:51:55,744 I won! 482 00:51:58,349 --> 00:52:00,831 We'll say it's one of the Kiveläs. 483 00:52:00,856 --> 00:52:03,166 I feel like someone was staring at me. 484 00:52:04,884 --> 00:52:07,914 People mistake us for each other all the time. 485 00:52:08,054 --> 00:52:11,335 It feels great that the policies I pursue, 486 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,180 ambitious environmental politics and advancing equality, 487 00:52:15,205 --> 00:52:19,711 but also animal rights, have been so widely supported. 488 00:53:38,723 --> 00:53:40,181 Kristo Muurimaa. 489 00:53:42,303 --> 00:53:43,552 Yes. 490 00:53:44,464 --> 00:53:48,196 Yes, we filed a request for police investigation. 491 00:53:49,707 --> 00:53:51,382 Kristo and his colleague Juho 492 00:53:51,407 --> 00:53:55,063 started challenging major animal product retailers 493 00:53:55,088 --> 00:53:58,474 and push the footage from Finland to international media. 494 00:54:04,933 --> 00:54:07,676 When it comes to fur farming, 495 00:54:08,019 --> 00:54:11,347 the most interest seems to come from international... 496 00:54:11,387 --> 00:54:14,130 ...dare I say tabloid magazines. 497 00:54:14,173 --> 00:54:17,776 They express shock at how things are in Finland, 498 00:54:18,549 --> 00:54:21,743 Our aim is to get it shown on TV 499 00:54:22,367 --> 00:54:25,380 how animals are treated in Finland 500 00:54:25,405 --> 00:54:29,173 so that it makes the headlines the next morning. 501 00:54:29,625 --> 00:54:35,284 That way we can challenge the politicians. 502 00:54:36,013 --> 00:54:41,187 With their footage they want to end the demand for Finnish cage eggs and fur. 503 00:54:43,228 --> 00:54:47,672 When I read that police dogs had chased two men who had broken into a henhouse, 504 00:54:47,697 --> 00:54:50,430 I realised that Kristo finally got busted. 505 00:54:53,409 --> 00:55:00,345 The case of Prosecutor versus Muurimaa and Kerola begins... 506 00:55:01,674 --> 00:55:04,251 Last night brought back bad memories. 507 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,175 I don't care whether I spend the night in that budget hotel 508 00:55:08,262 --> 00:55:09,850 or in jail. 509 00:55:11,856 --> 00:55:14,486 We'll see which one we end up in. 510 00:55:24,182 --> 00:55:26,648 Mai's party gets into the government. 511 00:55:30,866 --> 00:55:34,112 No hitting. You have to be gentle. 512 00:55:34,286 --> 00:55:37,958 She was busy with the negotiations, so I helped with the kids. 513 00:55:46,282 --> 00:55:51,699 My morning started at 5.50 when my child woke up. 514 00:55:52,029 --> 00:55:55,213 First I'll answer some messages, 515 00:55:55,238 --> 00:55:58,617 then I'll eat ice cream. 516 00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:03,426 You'd think they have an interpreter if they don't speak Finnish, but... 517 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,235 They sell vegan soft ice around the corner. 518 00:56:08,260 --> 00:56:11,759 So this is what's most important now. - Sorry, this can't wait. 519 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:18,044 The last time I ate vegan soft ice was at an organic fair in the 90s... 520 00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:20,681 No, even that was in Sweden. 521 00:56:26,143 --> 00:56:28,348 It's clear we're going to win this battle. 522 00:56:29,259 --> 00:56:32,245 Even if we lost this trial. 523 00:56:35,067 --> 00:56:37,067 This is the big picture now. 524 00:56:38,591 --> 00:56:43,244 It was unbelievable that the law we had waited for years was in Mai's hands. 525 00:56:48,513 --> 00:56:53,139 The animal welfare act is handled in the environmental work group, 526 00:56:53,164 --> 00:56:54,815 not the agricultural, 527 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,480 which is just unbelievable. 528 00:56:58,895 --> 00:57:02,393 Did Mai tell you how she got it transferred there? 529 00:57:02,895 --> 00:57:08,044 In her first speech she said the law has nothing to do with agriculture. 530 00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:11,447 ''It concerns all animals, cats and dogs too!'' 531 00:57:11,472 --> 00:57:14,598 The agricultural work group must be pissed. 532 00:57:14,702 --> 00:57:18,608 They are. - Their only reason for being there is now gone. 533 00:57:18,633 --> 00:57:23,435 They still have their say, but my expectations are way higher now. 534 00:57:29,234 --> 00:57:31,367 The negotiations have now begun. 535 00:57:31,378 --> 00:57:36,299 Every day is booked from 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. 536 00:57:36,334 --> 00:57:39,554 and we'll be sitting here in the House of the Estates. 537 00:57:39,684 --> 00:57:42,080 Wish me luck! 538 00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:46,511 Out of my way! 539 00:57:57,511 --> 00:57:58,511 Oh, no! 540 00:58:04,647 --> 00:58:07,547 Maybe it has had some kind of effect on me... 541 00:58:08,378 --> 00:58:16,330 ...that I had to take so much responsibility when I was a child. 542 00:58:17,545 --> 00:58:22,788 But it was clear that Tuuli's learning disability 543 00:58:23,301 --> 00:58:27,146 was something that wasn't present in other families. 544 00:58:27,684 --> 00:58:32,259 You know, with Tuuli being bullied in school and everything. 545 00:58:33,107 --> 00:58:37,363 It all just felt so wrong. 546 00:58:39,776 --> 00:58:42,355 Yeah, it was awful. 547 00:59:28,788 --> 00:59:32,316 I think the new animal welfare law turned out really bad 548 00:59:32,547 --> 00:59:35,490 when it comes to the crucial things. 549 00:59:40,646 --> 00:59:41,826 Or, well... 550 00:59:46,366 --> 00:59:50,038 This must be the most mentally exhausting thing I've ever done. 551 00:59:50,437 --> 00:59:53,823 We were right there, deciding on these things, 552 00:59:53,848 --> 00:59:58,259 so it feels like it was so close... 553 00:59:59,508 --> 01:00:05,394 But still I couldn't achieve the things I wanted so much. 554 01:00:05,828 --> 01:00:11,193 It's just so difficult to deal with that. 555 01:00:17,426 --> 01:00:21,028 Nothing will ever fucking change. 556 01:01:42,567 --> 01:01:48,427 We didn't discuss animal rights there. 557 01:01:48,452 --> 01:01:52,967 It's all about compromises. ''Okay, you want to ban gestation cages.'' 558 01:01:52,992 --> 01:01:58,062 ''Could we somehow combine that with the producers' interests?'' 559 01:01:58,236 --> 01:02:01,465 ''How much are we willing to pay for the ban 560 01:02:01,490 --> 01:02:04,399 and what would the transition period be?'' 561 01:02:04,424 --> 01:02:08,635 But there's no room for discussion about animal rights. 562 01:02:28,991 --> 01:02:32,736 I didn't expect the new law to save all animals, but... 563 01:02:32,761 --> 01:02:37,311 I thought it would finally turn out better with a left and green government. 564 01:02:37,336 --> 01:02:39,924 But we've lost that battle now. 565 01:02:40,818 --> 01:02:45,661 It really gets to me when I think about you and Mai. 566 01:02:46,070 --> 01:02:52,615 I've been looking after Mai's kids as she hasn't had one second for them. 567 01:02:54,828 --> 01:02:57,424 And this is what we finally get. 568 01:02:58,396 --> 01:03:00,396 People always ask me... 569 01:03:01,017 --> 01:03:05,167 ...how I can do this kind of work? 570 01:03:05,356 --> 01:03:08,769 I see so much suffering when visiting the pig and fur farms. 571 01:03:08,794 --> 01:03:14,220 The work is mentally very draining and hard, 572 01:03:14,245 --> 01:03:18,569 but I think that the work Mai does is so much harder. 573 01:03:32,460 --> 01:03:35,046 We've tried everything. 574 01:03:38,128 --> 01:03:40,089 Yet it feels like... 575 01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:49,568 ...any real change that we could achieve... 576 01:03:50,584 --> 01:03:54,907 The society could set 577 01:03:55,098 --> 01:03:59,612 even the slightest boundaries to what is considered acceptable. 578 01:04:01,009 --> 01:04:03,318 But no one responds. 579 01:04:06,227 --> 01:04:12,060 A couple of weeks ago I was in Brussels in the European Parliament 580 01:04:12,112 --> 01:04:16,443 speaking in a publication event of a report on the fur industry. 581 01:04:16,895 --> 01:04:18,895 It went pretty well, 582 01:04:19,864 --> 01:04:26,652 but I'd much rather be in the shitty pigsties than the European Parliament. 583 01:04:26,860 --> 01:04:29,890 At least those animals are honest pigs 584 01:04:30,827 --> 01:04:31,956 rather than... 585 01:04:33,362 --> 01:04:34,362 Yeah. 586 01:04:48,264 --> 01:04:51,648 You shouldn't do it like this, but it turned out nice. 587 01:04:53,933 --> 01:04:59,357 Do you still dream of doing a big ''stop the press'' kind of campaign? 588 01:04:59,383 --> 01:05:02,250 That's the only dream I have with this work. 589 01:05:09,461 --> 01:05:11,488 These trousers are so tight. 590 01:05:27,196 --> 01:05:30,494 There was some guy at the farm when we drove past it. 591 01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:34,618 What did he look like? - I only saw a car with an open door 592 01:05:34,643 --> 01:05:35,919 What kind of car? 593 01:05:36,484 --> 01:05:40,208 A small passenger car. Or middle-sized, maybe a Passat. 594 01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:43,567 Colour? - Grey. Silvery. 595 01:05:44,010 --> 01:05:45,993 So they're not doing well. 596 01:05:49,236 --> 01:05:53,203 This whole world just seems so strange to me. 597 01:05:53,855 --> 01:05:56,528 Suddenly you're in like this castle, 598 01:05:57,179 --> 01:06:04,358 debating whether animals should be put in small cages or not. 599 01:06:08,308 --> 01:06:12,596 Is Finland the only country in the world where an agrarian party 600 01:06:12,621 --> 01:06:17,596 wants to kill animals for fur until the end of the world? 601 01:06:18,499 --> 01:06:21,494 Why is this so hard in here in particular? 602 01:06:21,798 --> 01:06:27,553 Netherlands was a big fur producer, too, but they found Covid from 50 farms 603 01:06:27,578 --> 01:06:32,136 which makes shutting down the farms quite a bit faster. 604 01:06:32,243 --> 01:06:34,506 Right, when it's a threat to humans. 605 01:07:01,502 --> 01:07:03,628 They left you all alone? 606 01:07:07,423 --> 01:07:08,623 It's all right. 607 01:07:42,032 --> 01:07:43,481 Holy shit. 608 01:07:44,115 --> 01:07:46,115 We have a dead one here. 609 01:07:51,537 --> 01:07:54,375 When Mai was elected, 610 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,466 she suddenly wasn't in the opposition with us. 611 01:07:57,491 --> 01:07:59,436 She switched camps. 612 01:07:59,461 --> 01:08:04,245 In a way, she suddenly wasn't on our side anymore. 613 01:08:05,686 --> 01:08:08,855 She has to attend the voting 614 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,674 and press the ''Yes, I accept the new animal welfare act'' button. 615 01:08:12,692 --> 01:08:15,964 I don't know what to think... 616 01:08:16,251 --> 01:08:22,031 You know, it kind of hurt me 617 01:08:22,396 --> 01:08:28,264 when you claimed that... How did you put it? 618 01:08:30,278 --> 01:08:33,177 That I'm somehow opposing you? 619 01:08:33,202 --> 01:08:38,915 I view the social movement for improving animal rights 620 01:08:38,994 --> 01:08:41,450 as a continuum. 621 01:08:41,728 --> 01:08:45,521 Some of us work in politics, 622 01:08:45,547 --> 01:08:50,017 some work in organisations or take direct action, 623 01:08:50,042 --> 01:08:54,080 while others try to influence consumers. 624 01:08:54,852 --> 01:08:58,004 So the idea of me being on the opposite side... 625 01:08:58,029 --> 01:09:02,109 I understand it if you're trying to oppose the system, 626 01:09:02,134 --> 01:09:05,530 and then I kind of represent that same system... 627 01:09:07,369 --> 01:09:12,248 But it feels unfair that I should represent the whole system 628 01:09:12,273 --> 01:09:15,252 that you are opposing. 629 01:09:37,891 --> 01:09:39,210 Yeah... 630 01:09:55,330 --> 01:09:57,943 I heard two gunshots. 631 01:09:57,968 --> 01:09:59,968 What happened? 632 01:10:01,945 --> 01:10:05,582 Yellow, yellow. I see two cameras over there. 633 01:10:06,155 --> 01:10:07,995 Copy that. I'll withdraw. 634 01:10:08,020 --> 01:10:10,972 Our cars can be seen through the forest from a hundred metres away. 635 01:10:28,055 --> 01:10:31,093 The options are to stop trying... 636 01:10:32,819 --> 01:10:38,010 ...or to place your actions in a historical context. 637 01:10:38,833 --> 01:10:43,219 Everything we achieve makes things easier for those 638 01:10:43,244 --> 01:10:45,667 who take action after us. 639 01:11:05,348 --> 01:11:11,268 I feel like there's my reality where the question of animals 640 01:11:11,293 --> 01:11:13,811 has caused a great deal of sorrow. 641 01:11:14,471 --> 01:11:19,939 Then there's the other reality where the whole issue doesn't exist. 642 01:11:20,981 --> 01:11:25,356 I wish those two realities could meet. 643 01:11:27,752 --> 01:11:32,405 Animals and the violence they're subjected to are real. 644 01:11:32,831 --> 01:11:35,226 We simply have to do something. 645 01:11:58,456 --> 01:12:02,474 It's a candid camera show, right? - Yeah. 646 01:12:12,971 --> 01:12:15,305 Each customer intervenes in it. 647 01:12:21,548 --> 01:12:25,185 This is what I think about 648 01:12:25,210 --> 01:12:29,299 when I feel like I've lost faith in everything. 649 01:12:31,531 --> 01:12:35,567 It proves to you that people care? - Yeah. 650 01:12:36,148 --> 01:12:42,693 It inspires empathy when the situation is close at hand. 651 01:12:45,090 --> 01:12:49,756 It's crazy how this decade-old funny video 652 01:12:50,084 --> 01:12:56,865 feels like a really important animal welfare act. 653 01:13:03,740 --> 01:13:07,162 What does it mean when people say they love animals? 654 01:13:11,232 --> 01:13:14,100 For me, it means taking action and facing the animals 655 01:13:14,125 --> 01:13:16,350 because they are held in captivity as I speak. 656 01:13:20,561 --> 01:13:22,828 But what's my way of doing things? 657 01:13:25,685 --> 01:13:27,279 There are very few people 658 01:13:28,247 --> 01:13:34,357 who are able to do work where you constantly face great suffering. 659 01:13:41,004 --> 01:13:48,872 I feel like our way of doing things was... 660 01:13:50,123 --> 01:13:55,939 We never let it show how horrible all of it really is. 661 01:13:58,188 --> 01:14:01,009 It messed me up quite a bit. 662 01:14:01,034 --> 01:14:04,932 I wasn't able to deal with it alone. 663 01:14:05,484 --> 01:14:09,208 It was simply too much. 664 01:14:11,733 --> 01:14:14,286 I wish it was too much for me as well. 665 01:14:17,125 --> 01:14:19,937 That I hadn't become so numb. 666 01:14:27,090 --> 01:14:28,643 So what happened? 667 01:14:28,670 --> 01:14:32,107 They are banning cages in all of EU, 668 01:14:32,142 --> 01:14:37,584 and the same criteria apply to imported goods. 669 01:14:37,609 --> 01:14:39,823 It concerns imports, too? - Yeah! 670 01:14:39,848 --> 01:14:41,727 Imagine it! 671 01:14:52,186 --> 01:14:56,776 It doesn't concern fur farming, but... 672 01:14:57,216 --> 01:15:05,174 Imagine if caging animals is banned in all EU countries. 673 01:15:05,302 --> 01:15:10,292 How could fur farming continue either? 674 01:15:11,570 --> 01:15:17,077 Since all the practices on how animals are treated 675 01:15:17,102 --> 01:15:20,301 have been formed without any discussion, 676 01:15:20,326 --> 01:15:28,260 it feels like this is the first time ever... 677 01:15:29,198 --> 01:15:35,419 ...that we can actually make any ethical choices regarding 678 01:15:35,848 --> 01:15:39,618 I'm so relieved. 679 01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:47,635 This doesn't change everything 680 01:15:48,054 --> 01:15:52,147 but I've been really anxious, so with news like this 681 01:15:52,172 --> 01:15:56,727 I feel like I can finally breathe again. 682 01:15:56,752 --> 01:16:01,014 You know, a feeling of huge relief. 683 01:16:04,726 --> 01:16:10,536 But I don't want to celebrate yet, before it's actually done. 684 01:16:11,034 --> 01:16:15,067 Many will want to pull back from this. 685 01:16:18,759 --> 01:16:21,239 So it's not over yet. 686 01:16:38,554 --> 01:16:42,860 If we want to be a pioneers in advanting the right to live, 687 01:16:42,895 --> 01:16:46,688 {\an8}we need to that knowledge, that also non human spieces, 688 01:16:46,718 --> 01:16:49,985 {\an8}FALTA TEXTO 689 01:16:54,296 --> 01:16:56,542 I'm Karry, the chief planner of Vegan fair. 690 01:16:56,567 --> 01:16:59,432 Click the link and join our vegan challenge. 691 01:17:16,596 --> 01:17:21,712 Queen Elizabeth the Second, has plagged the argument to stop wearing real fur. 692 01:17:21,737 --> 01:17:26,772 FALTA TEXTO 693 01:17:26,797 --> 01:17:32,197 FALTA TEXTO 694 01:17:32,222 --> 01:17:35,844 FALTA TEXTO 695 01:17:35,869 --> 01:17:40,903 FALTA TEXTO 696 01:17:40,928 --> 01:17:45,639 FALTA TEXTO 52683

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