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Boy or girl?
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It's the eternal question.
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But that question may have
more than two answers.
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Science is finding the line
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between male and female bodies
is blurred,
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identifying the hallmarks
of a transgender brain
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and studying people who seem
to change sex spontaneously.
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Are some people
neither male nor female?
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Are there more than two sexes?
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Space, time, life itself.
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The secrets of the cosmos
lie through the wormhole.
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Everyone who ever
lived was created
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from the genes
of one man and one woman.
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Those genes blended together
to make a unique child...
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With dad's dark hair
and mom's curls,
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or with mom's lips
that curl into dad's smile.
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One thing, however,
isn't a blend...
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The child's sex.
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It's either male or female.
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But is there
something in between?
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Many transgender people,
their friends and families
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say there is.
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But what does science say?
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Today, that question
is playing out
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in a very public arena.
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For more then 100 years,
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athletes have pushed
themselves to the limit
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to be the strongest,
the fastest.
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And for almost as long,
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some have been doing
whatever it takes to gain
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that winning edge.
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But endocrinologist
Richard Holt is watching them.
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He's a pioneer of tests
designed to spot athletes
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seeking an unfair advantage.
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The difference between
somebody winning
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and somebody not winning
is absolutely tiny.
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We're talking about
maybe less than 1%.
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There are a number
of athletes who might be
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just that little bit away,
and they think,
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"well, maybe if I just take
a little bit of extra
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then I'll be able to reach
the pinnacle of the career."
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Richard's human
growth hormone test debuted
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at the 2012 London Olympics,
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but lately he's entered
a more controversial arena...
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Verifying athletes' sexes.
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Indian sprinter Dutee Chand
grew up as a woman
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and runs against them.
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But on the eve of
the 2014 Commonwealth games,
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she ran into a problem.
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She was found
to have high levels
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of testosterone in her blood,
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and fell foul
of the regulations.
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She was banned from competition.
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Men and women both
make testosterone naturally
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but in very
different quantities.
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According to international
athletic rules,
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Chand fell outside
the female reference range.
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She did not fit
the definition of a woman.
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Imagine we had two
athletes, a man and a woman,
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and we looked
at the two together.
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We'd see that, on average,
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the man would be taller
than the woman,
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he'd have broader shoulders
than the woman,
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he'd have bigger hands
than the woman.
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Men, on average,
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have much more lean
body mass than women.
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If you've got more
lean body mass,
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you've got a stronger engine.
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To avoid men sneaking
into women's events,
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sporting federations began
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in the 1960s
to certify women as women.
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They did this
the old-fashioned way...
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By visual inspection.
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But this led to controversy.
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Athletes thought the practice
was indecent and disrespectful.
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Since the 2000s,
some women have,
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instead, been subjected
to testosterone tests.
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But a recent large study
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of more than 800
elite athletes found
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that testosterone tests can't
always tell men from women.
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What they found was
that there are about 15% of men
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that had testosterone levels
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that were below the typical
normal reference range
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and there are about 30%
of women whose testosterone
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were above the upper
limits of the female range.
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In other words,
there's no clear dividing line
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between male and female
testosterone levels.
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In fact, there's no evidence
that naturally high testosterone
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even gives you
a performance advantage.
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If testosterone was really key
to athletic performance,
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what we would expect
is that, among men,
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men with the highest level
testosterone,
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those men
were winning the races,
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but I can tell you,
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some of them had very, very low
testosterone levels,
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and despite having
very low testosterone levels,
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they were still capable
of competing
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at the very, very highest level.
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Dutee Chand fought
the ruling against her,
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claiming it was discriminatory
to ban her
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for a naturally occurring
condition.
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In 2015, she won back
the right to compete.
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Testosterone screening
for female athletes
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has been suspended
for the moment,
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but there's no agreement
on what should replace it.
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I think the best way
of actually determining
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whether a woman
should be able to compete
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as a woman is the way
that she self-identifies.
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If she's always seen
herself as a woman,
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regardless of what her
testosterone levels are,
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I think she should be allowed
to compete as a woman.
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Sporting federations
are still wrestling
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with how to draw the line
between male and female bodies.
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But Israeli neuroscientist
Daphna Joel has been looking
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for telltale differences
in another place...
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our brains.
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There are many studies
finding differences
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between men and women,
in brain structure,
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brain connectivity,
brain function,
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and also in behaviors,
attitudes, et cetera.
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But the question is
whether these differences
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add up to create
two types of people.
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Do the differences
between the ways men
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and women behave trace back
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to physical differences
in their brains?
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Science has asked this
question for generations.
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In the 18th century,
anatomists noticed that men,
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on average, had larger skulls.
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In the 19th century,
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they discovered
that the brains of men
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tended to weigh more
than those of women.
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These differences quickly
become politicized.
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They started using this
to explain female inferiority
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when they discovered
that the brain
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of males were, on average,
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larger than
the brains of females.
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Then again,
this was used to explain
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why women are not
as intelligent.
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There's a long
history of science
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being used to justify
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and maintain the social order.
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Today, we think
we're too sophisticated
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to make that mistake.
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Studies show that more men
than women like soccer.
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We now know,
that doesn't make soccer
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an exclusively male sport.
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But when we talk
about the brain,
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we still fall back on male
and female stereotypes.
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For example,
scientists have found that,
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on average, a brain structure
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called the amygdala
is larger in men.
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Because the amygdala
is linked to aggression,
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you often hear people say
aggression is a male trait.
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The idea that there
is a male brain and female brain
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is so popular that people
that write books
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about this get
to be millionaires.
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These ideas depend
on one big assumption...
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That you can look at any brain
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and tell whether it belongs
to a man or a woman.
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Daphna set out to test
whether this is really true.
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She analyzed MRI scans from more
than 1,400 men and women.
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She wasn't looking at averages,
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she was looking
at each individual brain.
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Imagine your brain
is an ice-cream sundae.
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You get something blue
for each brain structure
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that follows the male pattern.
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You get something pink
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for each structure
that looks female.
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Many different brain structures
go into the sundae.
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We assume that all
the differences add up,
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one to the other,
to create one type of person...
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Men with a male brain
and woman with a female brain.
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Daphna's study put this
idea to the test.
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If you're female,
will every part of your brain
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look female in the MRI?
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If you're male, will every part
of your brain look male?
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Looking at brains one by one,
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Daphna saw nothing like that.
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These sundaes should
all look the same
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because they are all of women,
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but what we actually see
when we look closely,
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is that most people had a brain
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which was a mosaic,
mosaic of features.
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The majority of brains
has a mixture of both male
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and female characteristics.
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Brains do not have sex,
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and we should stop using
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the male-brain/
female-brain idea
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to explain why men and women
are fundamentally different,
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because they are not.
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In body and mind,
we are all mosaics...
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Pixelated images
of both man and woman.
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There's no denying
that most of us grow up
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knowing which sex we are,
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but on a deep genetic level,
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we could be wrong.
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Where does our sex come from?
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Well, like any biological trait,
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the answer lies in our DNA.
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There are two sex chromosomes...
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One's called the x,
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and its little sidekick
is the y.
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Usually, women have two x's,
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and men have one y and one x.
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But a small percentage of babies
are born with chromosomes
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in neither
of these arrangements.
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The more we learn about
the biology of sex,
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the less it seems like
there are only two sexes.
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Geneticist Eric Vilain works
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with an unusual group
of patients.
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They do not fit our normal
definitions of male and female.
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One term for them
is "intersex."
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I see patients
with intersex conditions.
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Their biological sex
does not match
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their appearance, their chest,
their genitals.
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And sometimes
they're in between.
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Their genitalia are ambiguous.
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About one in 100 people
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have some degree
of intersex condition.
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That's roughly the odds
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of having green eyes
or red hair.
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While those qualities are
visible to the naked eye,
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some intersex people aren't even
aware of their condition.
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In his research, Eric found
one particularly striking case.
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So, I had a patient,
young girl, 17 years of age.
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Let's call her Eileen.
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And she came to my office
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because she didn't
have any periods.
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Unlike all her friends,
month after month,
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she was waiting...
Nothing.
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Eileen looked like
a completely typical girl...
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She was tall,
she was good-looking,
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she was well put-together.
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Even though she looked
completely female,
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there's one thing that
was not working properly...
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She could not produce eggs,
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and she could not
produce female hormones.
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We sent some tests for Eileen,
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and the first test we sent
for her were chromosomes,
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and that's when we discovered
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that she had
an x-y pair of chromosome,
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and not an x-x.
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Eileen was actually male...
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At least, according
to her genes.
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The human genome is an
incredibly complex molecule.
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It's the source of the many
millions of instructions
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which our bodies
follow as they grow.
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The determination of which sex
we are is just one of them.
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In each cell of the human body,
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there are 46 chromosomes...
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Like this one...
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Containing millions
of base pairs,
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but only one has something
to do with determining sex.
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Our 46 chromosomes
come in 23 pairs.
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Half of each pair
comes from our mother,
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the other from our father.
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Within the chromosomes,
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our genes determine
everything from eye color
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to the shape of our earlobes.
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Hidden among these pillars
of our existence
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is one pair of sex chromosomes.
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Their combination determines
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whether we become male
or female.
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Women are x-x, men... x-y.
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But if Eileen was male,
why didn't she look male?
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Eric went looking
for the root of the problem.
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We sent for another
series of tests
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looking for mutations in genes
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important for
sexual development.
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One of these tests looked
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for mutations in a critical gene
on the y chromosome
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called SRY.
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On the y chromosome,
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there is this
small gene called SRY
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that's only 887 base pairs
in the determined sex.
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It was once believed
that many genes
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on the y chromosome
worked together
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in the womb to make you male.
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But we now know
that the tiny SRY gene
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does that job all by itself.
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If SRY doesn't work correctly,
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the child can grow up
looking female.
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We identified one base pair
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that was different in Eileen.
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This one mutation
was responsible
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for her being not a boy.
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Out of three billion base pairs
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in the human genome,
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a single one had switched places
with the one beside it.
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It's called a point mutation...
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The smallest possible alteration
that can be made to a gene.
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Since mutations can
be inherited,
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Eric invited Eileen's relatives
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to come for testing.
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He found two more females
who were genetically x-y.
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Like Eileen, they had
never had periods
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and could not bear children.
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Because of one tiny mutation,
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they'd lived as women
for their entire lives.
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When it comes to SRY,
the main sex-determining gene,
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there is no room for error.
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One base-pair mutation
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and the sexual
development switches
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from male to female.
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For this handful of patients,
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along with millions
of intersex people
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around the world,
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learning the truth
about their genes
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can mark the beginning
of a difficult process.
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They're really ashamed
of their situation,
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and that's something that
I can't stress enough.
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Despite the fact that
these conditions are rare,
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they're not unique.
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If they're not alone,
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then this sense
of shame disappears,
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and then they can embrace
their conditions
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rather than be ashamed of it.
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Most of us can't
imagine the anguish
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that the intersexed 1%
must go through,
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but some people have even
more challenging transitions...
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They hit puberty and their sex
seems to suddenly switch.
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We all know that
time changes us.
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First, we grow taller,
then a little shorter.
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We lose our baby fat,
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and then we get
a little of it back.
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But for most of us, one thing
doesn't change... our sex.
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As we age, we learn
to wear our masculinity
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and femininity like an old suit.
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But that's not true
for everyone.
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Pediatric endocrinologist
Chris Houk lives
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on 150 acres in south Carolina.
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In this grand laboratory
of nature,
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he encourages his kids
to study the birds and the bees.
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We live here with chickens
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and a horse and bees
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and soon-to-be goats.
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It allows kids
to connect with nature.
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The eggs hatch,
and then they grow up
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and become mature
male or female,
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and then they make more babies.
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And the circle
of life continues.
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Chris' research focuses
on the biological process
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of growing up...
How girls become women
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and boys become men.
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A few decades ago,
some intriguing evidence emerged
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that not everyone
follows those facts.
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Back in the early 70s,
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there was a rumor
that circulated,
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that there was a village
in the Dominican Republic
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where girls turned into boys
at the age of puberty.
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The villagers seemed
to know about this.
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They had multiple generations,
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seven or eight generations,
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that they could document
at the time,
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to the point that they had
created a terminology for it
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called "guevedoce,"
which means "penis at 12."
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Before their daughters
hit puberty,
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the villagers trusted their eyes
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and raised them as girls.
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But when they hit puberty,
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sometimes things
went a little haywire.
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Similar to humans,
chickens go through puberty...
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Testosterone's what initiates
chicken puberty
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and establishes sexual maturity,
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the ability to reproduce.
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To use this analogy,
in guevedoce,
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a chick that appears
to be becoming a hen
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takes on some of the secondary
sexual characteristics
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that one would
only see in a rooster.
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When researchers tested
the guevedoces,
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they found high levels
of testosterone,
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and their sex
chromosomes were x-y.
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Biologically, they were male.
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Puberty had somehow revealed
their underlying genetic sex.
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But how?
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Let's use this egg,
for a moment,
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to talk about human development.
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We'll pretend that
this egg is a womb.
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Within it is contained the fetus
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and all the materials needed
to make a male or a female.
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If we wanted to make a female,
this would be the end of it.
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We're done.
We can scramble this up,
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we can sunny-side-up,
we can over-medium.
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That is a girl egg.
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Making a female is
a simple recipe...
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Just leave nature's
goodness alone.
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But male development calls
for more ingredients.
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At a very early time
in human development,
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we would need to
add testosterone,
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and that will have
a tremendous effect.
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But if this is all you do,
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you're internal
anatomy will be male,
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but no on will know it.
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In the guevedoces,
this was the stage
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where male development
went off course.
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They were missing
a crucial extra ingredient.
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You need another, more
potent activator of maleness,
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and that would be
a hormone called DHT.
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This hormone is at least
100 times as potent
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as regular testosterone,
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and it's critical for what
we call male development.
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In the womb,
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DHT is made
from regular testosterone.
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It takes an enzyme
called 5-Alpha reductase
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to do this job.
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In a normal male embryo,
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DHT creates structures
we associate with maleness.
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At the end of the process,
a baby boy is born.
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In guevedoces,
a genetic mutation
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prevented them from making DHT.
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They looked female
until puberty,
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when a surge of testosterone
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finally transformed their bodies
into male ones.
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This strange discovery
led researchers
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to a deep
psychological question...
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How will a male see himself
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if he's raised as a girl?
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We have these two terms,
"sex" and "gender."
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They're often used
interchangeably.
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But to us in medicine,
they are two distinct things.
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Sex generally refers
to the physical appearance
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of an individual.
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Gender is something
totally different.
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It's something sort of ethereal.
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It's this internal sense
of "I'm a male"
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or "I'm a female"
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or "I'm neither,
something in between."
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Well into the 20th century,
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gender was seen
as something parents
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could assign to children.
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Raise a girl in a female role
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and she will see
herself as female.
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But the children
in this Dominican
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village shattered this idea.
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Of the guevedoces
raised as female,
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95% transitioned
to live as male.
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This sort of challenged
that prevailing view
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that we could assign a gender.
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We could assign sex...
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You know, how you would
raise the child...
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But you could not
really assign gender,
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that there's something internal,
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something innate about gender.
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Our mental sense of whether
we are male or female
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is not just an idea we get
from the influence of others.
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Gender is rooted,
biologically, deep inside us.
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So, what happens in our minds
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when our gender
and our sex don't match?
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Biology says that sex
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is not as simple
as male and female.
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Approximately 1 in 300 people
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identify themselves
as transgender.
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Transgender people feel
their biological sex
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doesn't match who
they truly are up here,
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which raises a fascinating
scientific question...
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Why do body and mind disagree?
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Transgender people are becoming
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much more visible
in recent years
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thanks to evolving social norms.
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Many go to great lengths
to alter their bodies,
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and ask their families to accept
a different version of them.
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But where does the urge
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to change one's body come from?
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Neuroscientist Ivanka Savi?
is trying to understand
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the roots of transgender
feelings in the brain.
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She studies how we
perceive our bodies
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and feel at home in them.
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This is a very complex
process for the brain
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because it involves
several different areas
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that have to do
with cognition, self.
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"Who am I?" Is a very high-level
cognitive process.
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Ivanka believes
this cognitive process
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might be different
in transgender people.
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Transgender people, they look
at themselves in the mirror
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every morning
and feel uncomfortable
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because they, of course,
recognize the image,
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but they don't feel this is
the image that represents them.
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In a way,
they see somebody else.
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As a neural scientist,
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Ivanka knows that connecting
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with your own body
is a complex mental ballet.
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Our visual world overflows
with information...
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Colors, forms, movements...
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But our brains impose
a kind of order,
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identifying those things
which are most important to us.
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It starts with
the visual cortex,
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which takes in
everything we see.
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That information flows
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to more specialized
brain regions...
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One identifies bodies,
another identifies faces.
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And yet another region,
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the temporo-parietal
junction,
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identifies whether those
faces and bodies belong to us.
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But it takes one more region
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to pull all
these I.D.S together...
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The brain's identity center.
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The prefrontal cortex
must conclude
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"this image feels like me."
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This is the mental network
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that allows us to recognize
our own bodies
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and feel at home in them.
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And it operates
completely unconsciously.
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This all-body perception
is so automatic,
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so we don't even
consciously reflect upon it.
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I look at my hand.
It's my hand.
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I look at my face.
It's my face.
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To recognize and know ourselves
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is something we take
for granted everyday.
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But in some people, it may
work a little differently.
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Many transgender people
do not identify
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with the bodies
they are born with.
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And in many cases,
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it doesn't seem to be
a matter of choice.
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In many, many people
who are transgender,
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this occurs very early
during the childhood,
518
00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:40,450
and it's very strong.
519
00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:42,020
And that's why
it's very important
520
00:26:42,020 --> 00:26:43,690
to take this seriously.
521
00:26:45,530 --> 00:26:48,300
Ivanka thought
transgender people might see
522
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:50,100
in their mind's eye
523
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:53,730
a body that's different
from their physical image.
524
00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:56,640
In an experiment,
she showed transgender subjects
525
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,870
photos of themselves.
526
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,640
In some of these photos,
527
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,910
she had subtlety
altered their physiques.
528
00:27:02,910 --> 00:27:05,810
Many, many body images
are presented
529
00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:07,680
during a very short time,
530
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,250
and for each image,
they have to determine
531
00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:13,020
"how much is it me?"
532
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:17,020
Ivanka gave her subjects
very little time to reflect,
533
00:27:17,030 --> 00:27:19,790
but they consistently
identified with the photos
534
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,500
that altered their outward
sex characteristics,
535
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:26,230
and they made
their choices so quickly,
536
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,600
Ivanka suspected
the unconscious process
537
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,240
of own-body perception
538
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,040
was working
differently for them.
539
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,310
So she used MRI imaging to look
540
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:40,680
at the connections
in their brains.
541
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,320
Think about what it takes
to make a self-portrait.
542
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,290
It's a dialogue between
what your eyes tell you
543
00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:49,860
and what you think
should be there.
544
00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:52,490
That's not unlike
the unconscious dialogue
545
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,560
that goes on between
regions of your brain.
546
00:27:55,570 --> 00:27:57,200
People with transgender feelings
547
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000
don't have any
visual impairment.
548
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,270
They don't see the world
any differently,
549
00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:05,570
but when Ivanka looked
at their brains,
550
00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:07,010
she noticed two regions
551
00:28:07,010 --> 00:28:10,180
that weren't communicating
in the usual way.
552
00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:13,510
We could see that there
was a weaker connection
553
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,820
between the area of the brain
554
00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:19,490
that represents self
and the area of the brain
555
00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:22,490
that represents their own body.
556
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:26,130
It could, somehow,
explain these perceptions
557
00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:29,330
of seeing own body,
recognize own body,
558
00:28:29,330 --> 00:28:30,530
but at the same time,
559
00:28:30,530 --> 00:28:33,970
feeling that this
is not part of the self.
560
00:28:33,970 --> 00:28:36,170
The struggle to feel
like yourself
561
00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:38,340
when you look at your own body
562
00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:42,010
is at the core
of trans identity.
563
00:28:42,010 --> 00:28:44,310
Ivanka's research has
uncovered the roots
564
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:48,280
of this struggle in the brain.
565
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,950
To live happier lives,
566
00:28:49,950 --> 00:28:52,620
transgender people often correct
567
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:54,320
their physical appearance
568
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,260
through hormone therapy
or surgery.
569
00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:02,260
It's a tall order
to switch sex anatomically,
570
00:29:02,260 --> 00:29:06,430
but new research is showing it
soon could get easier
571
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,440
because, on a hidden level,
572
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,510
our bodies are constantly
trying to switch.
573
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,340
Hermaphrodite... it's an animal
that has both male
574
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:22,740
and female sex organs,
575
00:29:22,740 --> 00:29:25,080
like these snails.
576
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,380
When they mate,
577
00:29:26,380 --> 00:29:28,750
either one can take
on the biological role
578
00:29:28,750 --> 00:29:31,850
of the male or the female.
579
00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:33,350
New research is revealing
580
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:38,560
that we all might be
hermaphrodites, in a sense.
581
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,090
Down at the level of our cells,
582
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,000
there's a war between
male and female
583
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,670
raging inside all of us.
584
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:53,670
Geneticist David Zarkower looks
585
00:29:53,670 --> 00:29:56,040
at how cells in our
reproductive organs
586
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,510
choose to be one sex
or the other,
587
00:29:58,510 --> 00:30:02,110
and whether they can
change their minds.
588
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,150
Our interest is in how sexual
differentiation happens,
589
00:30:05,150 --> 00:30:08,220
so how cells come to be
either male or female.
590
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:09,720
And so what we do
is we find genes
591
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,090
that might play an important
role in that process,
592
00:30:12,090 --> 00:30:14,330
and we break them,
and we see what happens.
593
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:20,430
SRY is the gene on the y
chromosome that decides
594
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:22,130
whether you'll become
male or female,
595
00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:25,500
and if SRY has been active,
male development occurs.
596
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:29,040
But David and his team
decided to look beyond SRY
597
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,780
to another gene called dmrt1.
598
00:30:33,780 --> 00:30:37,180
Dmrt1 helps the testes develop,
599
00:30:37,180 --> 00:30:41,620
but David wondered why it
stayed active in adulthood.
600
00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:43,120
If the sex of male cells
601
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,920
is supposed to be fixed
before birth,
602
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:50,160
why was this gene still working?
603
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,100
David works on mice
as stand-ins for humans,
604
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,570
as their biology
is very similar.
605
00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:58,340
And he did what geneticists do,
606
00:30:58,340 --> 00:31:00,570
he let mice grow to adulthood,
607
00:31:00,570 --> 00:31:05,080
then broke the dmrt1 gene
to see what would happen.
608
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,210
In this microscopy room,
we look at mouse tissue samples,
609
00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:11,580
and we use specific stains
to ask whether male-
610
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:14,590
or female-specific proteins
are active.
611
00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:17,560
The color scheme is simple...
612
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Green for male cells,
pink for female.
613
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,000
When David eliminated
the dmrt1 gene
614
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600
then looked at the gonads
of his mice,
615
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,930
he saw something surprising.
616
00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:30,970
You can see that
there's still some male cells...
617
00:31:30,970 --> 00:31:32,300
Which is these...
But there are many,
618
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:35,370
many more intensely
pink staining cells.
619
00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:37,410
Deleting just one gene
620
00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:41,780
caused the cells to change sex.
621
00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:45,520
Ovaries were developing
in the bodies of males.
622
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,990
And he found this process
works in both directions.
623
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:51,590
At first we didn't
really believe it,
624
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:53,860
because this was
supposed to be a testis,
625
00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:55,660
but there was
all this expression
626
00:31:55,660 --> 00:31:56,960
of female-specific genes,
627
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,660
and so we repeated
the experiment,
628
00:31:58,670 --> 00:32:00,170
but it was clearly true.
629
00:32:00,170 --> 00:32:03,270
This testis was, essentially,
directly transforming
630
00:32:03,270 --> 00:32:06,210
into something that was
very much like an ovary.
631
00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:10,540
It's a discovery that shakes
the very foundations of sex.
632
00:32:10,540 --> 00:32:13,550
The cells which
makes us male or female
633
00:32:13,550 --> 00:32:16,880
don't have to stay that way.
634
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,380
Could a woman produce sperm
635
00:32:18,390 --> 00:32:20,850
to make a baby
with another woman?
636
00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:23,060
And could a man produce eggs?
637
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,090
We all start with genes
638
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:32,100
that could pull us
toward male or female.
639
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:34,500
For the first six weeks
in the womb,
640
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:37,500
a tenuous balance exists,
641
00:32:37,510 --> 00:32:39,270
neither side is winning.
642
00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:42,910
The embryo seems
neither male nor female.
643
00:32:42,910 --> 00:32:44,680
But after six weeks,
644
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,350
if the embryo
has a y chromosome,
645
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:51,980
the SRY gene kicks into action.
646
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:55,620
The gene called SRY
is the difference-maker.
647
00:32:58,290 --> 00:32:59,990
With SRY as anchor,
648
00:32:59,990 --> 00:33:02,590
the pro-male genes
swing into action...
649
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,770
Overwhelming their competition,
650
00:33:08,770 --> 00:33:12,000
pulling the fetus
to develop as male.
651
00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:20,610
With sex determination complete,
SRY hands over the reins.
652
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,180
Here you go.
653
00:33:24,190 --> 00:33:30,960
Dmrt1 sees to it that
a male child remains male.
654
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,090
But if dmrt1 should
ever leave his post,
655
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,760
a gene called foxl2
656
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,400
will seize the opportunity
657
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,430
and start working
to make the body...
658
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,670
Let's go, ladies.
659
00:33:43,670 --> 00:33:45,370
Female.
660
00:33:47,910 --> 00:33:53,050
Like SRY, foxl2 spurs
other genes into action...
661
00:33:53,050 --> 00:33:56,010
One, two, three, pull.
662
00:33:56,020 --> 00:33:59,520
Which overpower the male genes
663
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,390
and start making female cells.
664
00:34:07,030 --> 00:34:11,260
We have this lifelong battle
between dmrt1 and foxl2
665
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:14,000
over whether the gonad
will remain male
666
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,240
or will, instead, become female.
667
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:17,970
This is really different
from the way
668
00:34:17,970 --> 00:34:19,570
we thought
about things previously.
669
00:34:19,570 --> 00:34:21,670
Dave's genetic
tinkering found a battle
670
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,810
of the sexes going on inside us
671
00:34:23,810 --> 00:34:25,980
that never truly ends.
672
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:29,550
In theory, an adult
human body can be coaxed
673
00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:33,150
to make opposite-sex hormones.
674
00:34:33,150 --> 00:34:39,090
A new era of gender therapy
is on the horizon.
675
00:34:39,090 --> 00:34:41,930
But consider the dark side.
676
00:34:41,930 --> 00:34:44,860
Could this technology
be misused?
677
00:34:44,870 --> 00:34:46,630
Could people with anomalies
678
00:34:46,630 --> 00:34:48,770
in their sex
chromosomes be forced
679
00:34:48,770 --> 00:34:51,800
to accept genetic alteration,
680
00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:53,970
to make them fit
into traditional male
681
00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:55,840
and female molds?
682
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,910
Children who are intersex
may be coerced
683
00:34:58,910 --> 00:35:02,350
into being assigned one sex
or the other.
684
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,380
This has been
a historical problem.
685
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:06,650
This technology could
potentially make that worse.
686
00:35:06,650 --> 00:35:10,020
So it'll have to be
used responsibly.
687
00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:11,390
On the other hand,
688
00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:13,390
this new knowledge
offers immense hope
689
00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:15,790
for transgender
and intersex people
690
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,400
who want to transition
from one sex to another.
691
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,630
The ultimate goal
of gender transformation
692
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,100
would be to allow
somebody to become
693
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,210
a reproductive individual
of the opposite sex.
694
00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:29,240
It's a ways off, but now
there's some reason to think
695
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:31,880
that it might be possible
for two men to have a baby,
696
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,710
with one making sperm
and the other one making eggs.
697
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,950
Some day, our society
698
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:41,150
may contain many new kinds
of happy families.
699
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,820
Our children may be born
700
00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:45,890
with more ways of changing
their bodies' sex,
701
00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:48,390
if it doesn't seem to fit.
702
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,760
Sex could soon be more fluid
703
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,330
than we ever thought possible.
704
00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:55,430
But the animal kingdom
is already showing
705
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,170
that our understanding of sex
706
00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:59,710
could evolve even further.
707
00:35:59,710 --> 00:36:02,040
These scientists
are exploring a world
708
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,940
where making babies
709
00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:07,750
needs more than one male
and one female.
710
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:17,240
Sex and gender were long seen
as male or female.
711
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,340
However you thought of yourself,
712
00:36:19,340 --> 00:36:22,510
you could only use
one bathroom door,
713
00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:26,350
but we now know
the gender you feel you are
714
00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:29,280
can disagree with your anatomy.
715
00:36:29,290 --> 00:36:32,090
As a society, we're beginning
to accept that sex
716
00:36:32,090 --> 00:36:33,690
and gender can be male,
717
00:36:33,690 --> 00:36:38,260
female, both,
or somewhere in between.
718
00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:40,100
But in the future,
719
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:44,730
we may choose to make sex
even more complex than that,
720
00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:49,570
creating more than one type
of male and female
721
00:36:49,570 --> 00:36:53,240
and even more
possibilities in between.
722
00:37:00,990 --> 00:37:02,120
Good morning.
723
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,450
Hey. Would you like
to get a colony out?
724
00:37:03,450 --> 00:37:06,090
Sure.
725
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:07,560
Biologist Joel Parker
726
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,190
and evolutionary ecologist
Sara Helms Cahan
727
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,760
were once classmates.
728
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,930
Now a tiny species has
brought them back together...
729
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,210
a species which could reveal
where we ourselves are headed.
730
00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:25,670
- Okay.
- Are you ready to touch 'em?
731
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,840
- Yeah, well, don't get stung.
Ah, remember... yes.
732
00:37:28,850 --> 00:37:31,010
You're braver than I am.
733
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:32,900
I remember you were always
squeamish about this.
734
00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:37,890
Throughout the desert southwest,
735
00:37:37,890 --> 00:37:40,790
there are many different species
of seed-harvester ants.
736
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:43,330
One of the most common
is a pogonomyrmex.
737
00:37:43,330 --> 00:37:44,630
It means "bearded ant."
738
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:47,660
"Pogo" meaning "beard."
739
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:50,770
It was here,
in the pogo's desert habitat,
740
00:37:50,770 --> 00:37:53,900
that Joel came across a paradox.
741
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:56,610
He found two different
species of pogos,
742
00:37:56,610 --> 00:37:59,140
a red type and a black type.
743
00:37:59,140 --> 00:38:01,540
Their colonies looked normal,
744
00:38:01,550 --> 00:38:03,880
with reproductive queens
and males
745
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,280
and hoards of sterile workers.
746
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,350
But the two species
shared a mysterious quirk.
747
00:38:09,350 --> 00:38:12,920
If you mated a queen
with a male from her colony,
748
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,230
you wouldn't get all
the offspring the colony needed,
749
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:18,990
you would only get
female reproductives.
750
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,900
You wouldn't get workers.
751
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:23,500
So where did those workers
all come from?
752
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,130
Did they fall from outer space?
753
00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:28,200
Or did their appearance
on the scene
754
00:38:28,210 --> 00:38:32,640
have a more earthy explanation?
755
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,750
It was a mystery Joel and Sara
were determined to solve.
756
00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:38,310
A normal ant colony gets started
757
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,650
when a newly mated queen
goes off after she mates
758
00:38:41,650 --> 00:38:43,290
and digs a little hole.
759
00:38:43,290 --> 00:38:45,950
She'll crawl into the hole
then lay eggs
760
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,030
that will become the first
generation of workers.
761
00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:53,300
Workers are
the backbone of an ant colony.
762
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:56,030
These sisters forage for food
763
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:58,270
and maintain the nest,
764
00:38:58,270 --> 00:39:01,070
but they can't reproduce.
765
00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:03,210
Reproductive females come later,
766
00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:06,070
and then the colony
is established.
767
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,510
They're cared for
and fussed over
768
00:39:08,510 --> 00:39:11,780
like the future queens
they are destined to be.
769
00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:15,980
You could think of them
as princesses.
770
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:20,790
And finally come the males,
the colony's lowliest members.
771
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:23,890
Males have a very sorry
lot in the insect world.
772
00:39:23,890 --> 00:39:25,060
They're very small.
773
00:39:25,060 --> 00:39:27,000
They basically only have
two functions in life...
774
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,500
To fly and to mate.
775
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,200
But mating for these two species
776
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,500
is where the system
appears to break down.
777
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:37,470
Joel discovered that
each species
778
00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:40,780
wasn't being faithful
to its own kind.
779
00:39:40,780 --> 00:39:42,440
They were flying off
to have flings
780
00:39:42,450 --> 00:39:46,280
with the species next door.
781
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,120
In a pogo mating swarm,
782
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,050
different couplings produce
different types of offspring.
783
00:39:52,060 --> 00:39:54,990
When a female mates
with her own species,
784
00:39:54,990 --> 00:39:57,730
she makes another
reproductive female,
785
00:39:57,730 --> 00:39:59,190
a future queen.
786
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,130
But to make one
of the much-needed workers,
787
00:40:02,130 --> 00:40:05,830
she must mate with a male
from the other species.
788
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,140
Usually when you think
of a sexual system,
789
00:40:08,140 --> 00:40:10,370
you think of males and females.
790
00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:12,440
With our ants,
we have a situation
791
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,480
where there's two
different types of males
792
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,840
and two different
types of females
793
00:40:15,850 --> 00:40:19,350
that are required to keep
this population going.
794
00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:22,120
So you can think of it
as like one species,
795
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,820
then, that has
four different sexes.
796
00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:28,490
In a species with four sexes,
797
00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:32,490
there is more than
simply male and female.
798
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:34,960
Joel and Sara believe
this system
799
00:40:34,970 --> 00:40:36,570
helps ants in a colony
800
00:40:36,570 --> 00:40:39,940
become more specialized
in their roles,
801
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:41,800
and they think
it offers a preview
802
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:44,070
of what may happen with humans,
803
00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:47,310
in the future.
804
00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:49,440
The thing that blows me
away about ants is
805
00:40:49,450 --> 00:40:50,750
when you actually start
looking at 'em
806
00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:52,250
from a biological point of view,
807
00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:56,790
they are more highly advanced
evolutionarily than humans.
808
00:40:56,790 --> 00:41:00,590
Ants started farming
100 million years before we did.
809
00:41:00,590 --> 00:41:02,990
They don't have to be
taught how to farm.
810
00:41:02,990 --> 00:41:05,190
It's all in their genes.
811
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,430
We have ranching,
we keep cattle.
812
00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:10,400
Ants tend their
own kind of cattle,
813
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,470
which are tiny little
insects called aphids.
814
00:41:13,470 --> 00:41:17,910
We have soldiers that we
send out to fight our wars.
815
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:19,640
Ants also have soldiers
816
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,440
that they send out
to fight their wars.
817
00:41:26,850 --> 00:41:32,650
Where ants have gone,
humanity has followed.
818
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:36,660
Joel and Sara think
it is happening again.
819
00:41:36,660 --> 00:41:39,560
Today, every human baby
is made from the genes
820
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,060
of just two people.
821
00:41:42,070 --> 00:41:43,530
But we are now experimenting
822
00:41:43,530 --> 00:41:45,770
with modifying the human genome,
823
00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:48,700
inserting genes
from other sources.
824
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:53,580
A baby made this way would have
more than just two parents.
825
00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:56,710
I can't even think what our
sexual system will be like
826
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:58,850
when we start using
some of these new technologies
827
00:41:58,850 --> 00:42:02,120
to put foreign DNA
into our germ line.
828
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,520
But when that happens, how
many parents are we gonna have?
829
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,220
I think
we are going to move beyond
830
00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:11,590
the simple binary
of mother and father.
831
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,430
I could see it becoming
more difficult
832
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:16,260
to be able to easily define
833
00:42:16,270 --> 00:42:18,730
who is the parent
of a given child.
834
00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:25,970
The poet Audre Lorde once wrote,
835
00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:29,680
"it is not our differences
that divide us,"
836
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,280
it is our inability
to recognize, accept,
837
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,320
"and celebrate
those differences."
838
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,390
One day, we may find ourselves
839
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:43,020
embracing a rainbow
of different sex identities.
840
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:47,230
Medical techniques could expand
the definitions of sex
841
00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:52,370
and allow us to accelerate
the evolution of our species.
842
00:42:52,370 --> 00:42:54,000
Perhaps the question isn't
843
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,440
whether there are more
than two sexes,
844
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,440
but whether there
are more possibilities
845
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,910
than we ever imagined.
846
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,510
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