All language subtitles for Jaco - English Subtitles 2015 Mr. Paul Marchand & Stephen Kijak DvdRip.XviD

af Afrikaans
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bn Bengali
bs Bosnian
bg Bulgarian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French Download
fy Frisian
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
km Khmer
ko Korean
ku Kurdish (Kurmanji)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Lao
la Latin
lv Latvian
lt Lithuanian
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
ne Nepali
no Norwegian
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt Portuguese
pa Punjabi
ro Romanian
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
st Sesotho
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhala
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
te Telugu
th Thai
tr Turkish
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
or Odia (Oriya)
rw Kinyarwanda
tk Turkmen
tt Tatar
ug Uyghur
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,066 --> 00:00:28,099 You got to understand, that was 1976: 2 00:00:28,119 --> 00:00:33,264 James Brown, Stravinski, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra. 3 00:00:33,284 --> 00:00:38,049 All of these people were making music at the same time. 4 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:43,124 Everybody wore it as a badge, it was a war cry, to be different. 5 00:00:43,144 --> 00:00:46,277 Musicians owned the music business. 6 00:00:47,158 --> 00:00:49,280 This guy approaches me and says: 7 00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:53,304 "by the way, I want to introduce myself, my name is John Francis Pastorius,... 8 00:00:53,324 --> 00:00:57,098 I'm the greatest bass player in the world" 9 00:00:57,118 --> 00:00:59,270 And I said: "Get the fuck out of here" 10 00:00:59,290 --> 00:01:02,313 And I'm thinking "I'm gonna show this white kid... 11 00:01:02,333 --> 00:01:05,106 how to play". 12 00:01:05,126 --> 00:01:06,277 But I didn't say any of this, you know... 13 00:01:06,297 --> 00:01:10,201 All I could say was "Slow down, man!" 14 00:01:10,221 --> 00:01:14,335 He could play Blues fills like nobody could play since 30 years. 15 00:01:15,356 --> 00:01:18,349 No-one is more funky than John Francis Pastorius III, 16 00:01:18,369 --> 00:01:19,370 you're kidding me? 17 00:01:23,204 --> 00:01:25,206 He had a mystical face, 18 00:01:25,226 --> 00:01:27,338 and a contact with the "great mind", 19 00:01:27,358 --> 00:01:30,171 the divine mind that permeates our souls. 20 00:01:30,281 --> 00:01:32,383 We were all like: "Man, Jaco!" 21 00:01:33,104 --> 00:01:36,277 It was like going to a game and rooting for Michael Jordan. 22 00:01:36,297 --> 00:01:40,181 there were people who broke the bones in their thumbs 23 00:01:40,201 --> 00:01:44,105 so they could bend their thumb back like Jaco. 24 00:01:44,125 --> 00:01:46,397 It was the sound, that sound he got. 25 00:01:47,118 --> 00:01:50,111 We said: "What the fuck is that?" "A bass player is doing that". 26 00:01:50,131 --> 00:01:53,124 In your lifetime you won't find another one like that. 27 00:01:54,205 --> 00:01:59,160 Good evening, welcome to Okland Park, Florida, where I grew up. 28 00:01:59,180 --> 00:02:04,325 I had the fortunate experience of growing up with everybody that played music, 29 00:02:04,345 --> 00:02:07,238 (...) every note. 30 00:02:07,258 --> 00:02:11,192 I was raised by the best musicians in the world. 31 00:02:11,212 --> 00:02:13,404 Thank you Jesus and God. 32 00:02:25,156 --> 00:02:29,190 Had to be 1983 or 84. 33 00:02:32,343 --> 00:02:34,385 -How you feelin' today, Jaco? -OK, Jerry. 34 00:02:34,405 --> 00:02:38,179 All right. You know, Lot have been said about you, 35 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:41,252 but the main thing is that people recognize the fact that 36 00:02:41,272 --> 00:02:44,455 you are able to play, with real sincerity, 37 00:02:45,176 --> 00:02:46,397 every style of music. 38 00:02:46,417 --> 00:02:48,229 Not only every style, 39 00:02:48,249 --> 00:02:52,343 but you can play all parts of a given piece at the same time 40 00:02:52,363 --> 00:02:54,405 on this one instrument, the bass. 41 00:02:54,425 --> 00:02:58,349 Now because of this, a lot of people are going crazy trying to do what you do, 42 00:02:58,369 --> 00:03:02,293 people are becoming fans of the bass and it's given it quite a bit of attention. 43 00:03:03,274 --> 00:03:05,206 How do you feel about that? 44 00:03:06,387 --> 00:03:07,388 Give me a gig! 45 00:03:10,481 --> 00:03:13,384 He was like: "Heck, you know, give me a gig". 46 00:03:13,414 --> 00:03:16,247 Ironically, at that moment, he couldnt get a gig... 47 00:03:16,267 --> 00:03:17,438 he couldnt get a gig. 48 00:03:17,458 --> 00:03:19,440 What drove you to this point? 49 00:03:23,354 --> 00:03:25,336 It was all over him, 50 00:03:25,356 --> 00:03:28,499 you could see it, that it was a man who had trouble, 51 00:03:29,220 --> 00:03:31,502 but "getting it out" was very important, 52 00:03:32,223 --> 00:03:34,235 even in the shape that he was in. 53 00:04:02,463 --> 00:04:04,405 It wasnt just notes. 54 00:04:04,425 --> 00:04:07,428 They had feeling, they had meaning, they had character. 55 00:04:08,269 --> 00:04:10,381 You cant really teach that, it was something 56 00:04:10,401 --> 00:04:12,423 that was in his heart. 57 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:38,299 Jaco. Four letters. Who is this guy? 58 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:41,452 and once you actually heard him play, 59 00:04:42,333 --> 00:04:45,506 it was like getting slapped in the face. 60 00:04:48,559 --> 00:04:51,582 Everything changed when he started playing, it was never the same again 61 00:04:52,303 --> 00:04:55,416 He shredded everything that came before him and it would never be done again. 62 00:04:55,436 --> 00:04:57,438 He just changed the rules of what was possible on the bass 63 00:04:57,458 --> 00:04:59,340 and what could be done. 64 00:04:59,490 --> 00:05:02,463 That dude was the greatest. 65 00:05:02,483 --> 00:05:05,386 We all say it : He's our Hendrix. 66 00:05:45,556 --> 00:05:46,617 A remarkable talent. 67 00:05:47,438 --> 00:05:49,590 the delivery system was there, the chops were there, 68 00:05:49,610 --> 00:05:52,553 but the support he needed was pulled away 69 00:05:52,573 --> 00:05:54,395 for whatever reason. 70 00:05:58,499 --> 00:06:00,591 He was already an artist, see? 71 00:06:00,611 --> 00:06:05,486 And when you're an artist, it's hard to go back. 72 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:33,634 Jaco : I grew up in Florida, where there was no real musical prejudice 73 00:06:35,486 --> 00:06:40,671 It was all sorts of music, everything from cuban to symphonic. Everything. 74 00:06:45,686 --> 00:06:50,491 Whatever you wanted to hear. You could hear it. Everything was here. 75 00:07:10,501 --> 00:07:13,444 I really wasn't influenced that much by bass players. 76 00:07:13,464 --> 00:07:14,575 To tell you the truth, 77 00:07:14,595 --> 00:07:17,438 I didn't even know who the bass players were most of the time. 78 00:07:18,539 --> 00:07:21,512 The main thing was just the music itself. 79 00:07:21,672 --> 00:07:24,485 Whatever was hip then 80 00:07:24,505 --> 00:07:25,646 that's what I was checking out. 81 00:07:25,726 --> 00:07:28,599 most of the time on 45's. 82 00:07:51,732 --> 00:07:55,566 When we moved to Florida around 1958, 59, 83 00:07:55,586 --> 00:07:57,648 There has never been a record in our house. 84 00:07:57,728 --> 00:08:00,701 Nat King Cole, Tony Bennett, all the big bands. 85 00:08:00,721 --> 00:08:02,633 that was all I would listen to. 86 00:08:14,525 --> 00:08:16,557 Jaco used to come up and watch us. 87 00:08:16,577 --> 00:08:19,710 Believe it or not, we were working in Charlie Johnson's Crab House 88 00:08:19,730 --> 00:08:21,772 And his mother brought him in for dinner. 89 00:08:22,703 --> 00:08:27,518 And I got Jaco up on the bandstand, sat him on the piano, 90 00:08:27,538 --> 00:08:31,662 He sang the whole Come Fly With Me, Sinatra album. 91 00:08:31,802 --> 00:08:37,798 That was the first time I thought "This guy is gonna be something else". 92 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:40,791 He just sat here like nothing, singing the whole album! 93 00:08:44,645 --> 00:08:47,728 Jaco used to go to bed at night with a little transistor radio, 94 00:08:47,748 --> 00:08:49,640 and He would listen to cuban. 95 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,543 He would get cuban on that radio. 96 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:00,751 He was incensed with good music. 97 00:09:03,624 --> 00:09:04,785 He sold (news)papers. 98 00:09:05,666 --> 00:09:08,759 He sold 250 newspapers a day, in the off season. 99 00:09:10,571 --> 00:09:12,573 He was a worker. He was a worker. 100 00:09:12,593 --> 00:09:14,755 One day, he went out and bought a whole set of drums. 101 00:09:14,775 --> 00:09:16,687 with all the money he saved. 102 00:09:39,830 --> 00:09:43,804 Jaco was born John Francis Pastorius the Third, 103 00:09:43,824 --> 00:09:49,760 but my mum didn't wanna call him John, because that was my grandfather. 104 00:09:49,780 --> 00:09:53,834 And it wasn't gonna be Jack. She says she came up with "Jaco". 105 00:09:57,638 --> 00:10:01,712 My mum had a really horrific job. 106 00:10:01,892 --> 00:10:04,835 Her mother took everything that was wrong in her life 107 00:10:04,855 --> 00:10:07,788 out on my mum. 108 00:10:07,808 --> 00:10:10,681 She was the middle of nine children. 109 00:10:10,831 --> 00:10:12,863 My mum wanted to be the home maker. 110 00:10:12,883 --> 00:10:17,898 She wanted to take care of somebody and my dad didn't want to be taken care of. 111 00:10:22,753 --> 00:10:25,826 They would go out to dinner and everybody wanted to buy Jack a drink. 112 00:10:25,846 --> 00:10:28,629 He was an entertainer. 113 00:10:29,690 --> 00:10:33,924 It became pretty evident, when we moved to South Florida, 114 00:10:34,775 --> 00:10:39,800 that we were gonna live with mum, and my dad would gonna "float around". 115 00:10:43,724 --> 00:10:44,925 My dad sent money. 116 00:10:45,646 --> 00:10:46,887 a couple of times, then stopped. 117 00:10:47,798 --> 00:10:49,810 Clothes got passed on 118 00:10:49,830 --> 00:10:52,933 I can remember pancakes and Kool-Aid for dinner. 119 00:10:59,730 --> 00:11:01,732 That was life with mum. 120 00:11:31,702 --> 00:11:35,866 Las Olas Brass was based on The Tijuana Brass, 121 00:11:35,886 --> 00:11:36,977 Herb Alpert's thing. 122 00:11:37,928 --> 00:11:40,911 Soul tunes and anything Motown 123 00:11:40,931 --> 00:11:45,886 But back then, South Florida was a cracker town, man. 124 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,973 You got the nice white side, over here, on the east, 125 00:11:52,993 --> 00:11:56,867 and to the west was what you now call "the hood". 126 00:12:00,831 --> 00:12:04,905 We would go ride our bicycles over into the hood, 127 00:12:05,816 --> 00:12:07,928 and I remember they used to sit on sacks. 128 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:31,782 In the neighborhood there's this club. There it is. 129 00:12:31,802 --> 00:12:33,994 It's like two houses put together and fenced around, 130 00:12:34,014 --> 00:12:36,016 and everyone's harrowing in the streets, 131 00:12:36,036 --> 00:12:37,918 they got a couple neone signs 132 00:12:37,938 --> 00:12:40,851 and they were working in a nightclub in this neighborhood. It was wild. 133 00:12:41,912 --> 00:12:43,954 I'm thinking: "OK..." 134 00:12:43,974 --> 00:12:46,046 I don't want to act like I'm frightened or concerned about this. 135 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:48,899 We were kids. But He says:"Park there". 136 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:52,833 He drags me to park over weeds, in this field, 137 00:12:52,853 --> 00:12:54,895 and he goes: "listen man, I'm gonna go get ready to play 138 00:12:54,915 --> 00:12:55,956 and, you know, be cool". 139 00:12:58,829 --> 00:13:02,833 This place was wild, it was a total black club of course. 140 00:13:02,853 --> 00:13:05,055 And he's already got this thing, like "Hey man, what's happening?" 141 00:13:05,075 --> 00:13:07,828 And they say: "Oh hey, Jaco!". 142 00:13:08,869 --> 00:13:11,952 It's like he practiced with the band, he knew all the tunes. 143 00:13:11,972 --> 00:13:17,828 Jaco was looking for the best musicians, searching out the hottest cats. 144 00:13:17,858 --> 00:13:21,081 He loved guys like Little Beaver, Frankie Williams & The Rocketeers. 145 00:13:21,802 --> 00:13:23,083 These guys had no records on the stores, 146 00:13:23,804 --> 00:13:26,877 they were being played on black stations only, like WRBD Radio, 147 00:13:26,897 --> 00:13:28,098 which was a black station. 148 00:13:28,819 --> 00:13:32,813 By the way, Jaco got 3 dollars that night. 3 dollars! 149 00:13:41,101 --> 00:13:43,964 That was it. I just started that simple. 150 00:13:43,984 --> 00:13:45,936 I just went out, bought a bass, and I was working at night, 151 00:13:45,956 --> 00:13:48,018 so that I could play 152 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:51,982 R&B, or maybe some rock and roll, 153 00:13:52,002 --> 00:13:55,105 just to get some work, have some fun. 154 00:13:57,067 --> 00:13:59,980 And I had no ambition whatsoever in life, at all, 155 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,032 except for "playing tonight". 156 00:14:02,052 --> 00:14:04,945 That was all. Play tonight, over at this club. 157 00:14:45,966 --> 00:14:50,050 I love rotgut, stomp, keke blues, rhythm & blues. 158 00:14:50,991 --> 00:14:54,044 Over the years, I was known as the "king of blue eyed soul". 159 00:14:54,895 --> 00:14:57,037 At the time, people only toured. 160 00:14:57,057 --> 00:14:58,098 You were on tour all year round. 161 00:14:58,118 --> 00:15:01,932 I have toured 48 to 50 weeks a year, for 25 years. 162 00:15:01,952 --> 00:15:05,996 And if you walked off with any energy left, then you didn't give your all. 163 00:15:06,907 --> 00:15:09,920 You had to be the best, the most exciting, 164 00:15:09,940 --> 00:15:11,932 the baddest that ever lived. 165 00:15:24,214 --> 00:15:26,096 It was hell on any musician. 166 00:15:26,116 --> 00:15:29,139 They didnt believe, when you come in the band, that you could cut it. 167 00:15:29,159 --> 00:15:32,182 Because they believed they were the baddest kickers in the world. 168 00:15:32,202 --> 00:15:35,055 They could chew a little kid like Jaco up. 169 00:15:38,028 --> 00:15:41,972 He came to the audition, the band put charts in front of him. 170 00:15:41,992 --> 00:15:44,164 From what I gathered, he didn't read much at all. 171 00:15:44,184 --> 00:15:47,207 All that mattered to me was: can he play a fill? 172 00:15:47,227 --> 00:15:50,050 I just gave him a chord and said: 173 00:15:50,070 --> 00:15:52,092 "I'm gonna count to four, and we're gonna play a blues. 174 00:15:52,112 --> 00:15:54,004 Play some lead blues, right now". 175 00:16:04,114 --> 00:16:07,968 It was strange. He could play fills, blues fills. 176 00:16:07,988 --> 00:16:10,040 that people hadn't played in 30 years. 177 00:16:10,060 --> 00:16:12,242 If he heard it one time, he could play it authentically, 178 00:16:12,262 --> 00:16:15,225 not only with the notes right, but with the feeling right. 179 00:16:15,245 --> 00:16:17,197 And that was the one thing that impressed me. 180 00:16:17,217 --> 00:16:20,230 And some people in the band were teaching him how to read music. 181 00:16:22,212 --> 00:16:27,127 Jaco had 2 pairs of corduroy jeans and 3 tee-shirts. 182 00:16:27,147 --> 00:16:30,100 Everything he owned fit in his Fender bass case. 183 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,993 The tux was way too big for Jaco, 184 00:16:33,013 --> 00:16:37,207 so he just left all his clothes on and put the tux on. 185 00:16:37,227 --> 00:16:40,240 he got two layers of clothes to make the tux fit. 186 00:16:42,082 --> 00:16:43,273 He kept all his money in cash and put it in his sock. 187 00:16:43,293 --> 00:16:47,257 and he put it in his Fender bass case. 188 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:53,053 He spent very little money. 189 00:16:53,073 --> 00:16:56,076 If we ate in a restaurant, he ordered the cheapest thing on the menu, 190 00:16:56,096 --> 00:16:57,287 usually a hot dog. 191 00:16:57,307 --> 00:17:01,091 That's what he ate, put the rest of the money in his sock, 192 00:17:01,111 --> 00:17:03,313 kept it and sent it home. 193 00:17:04,034 --> 00:17:07,027 He was a great role father. 194 00:17:34,344 --> 00:17:38,118 I was instantly comfortable with him. 195 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:43,273 he had that kind of power over people, instant charm. 196 00:17:47,147 --> 00:17:49,279 I was a junior (2nd year), he was a sophomore (3rd year). 197 00:17:49,299 --> 00:17:54,114 He and I just sat on a beach bench and talked for couple hours. 198 00:17:57,177 --> 00:18:01,101 Both our fathers were jazz musicians 199 00:18:01,201 --> 00:18:03,263 both our families had broken up, 200 00:18:03,283 --> 00:18:05,185 our fathers drank too much... 201 00:18:05,205 --> 00:18:08,088 I didn't have to put on any arrows. 202 00:18:14,274 --> 00:18:18,358 He had it figured out, mathematically, 203 00:18:18,378 --> 00:18:21,291 that when I was a senior in High School, 204 00:18:21,311 --> 00:18:24,174 it's time for us to have a baby. 205 00:18:29,179 --> 00:18:31,191 He had places to go. 206 00:18:44,274 --> 00:18:49,359 When Mary was born, that day, Jaco & I went to the hospital. 207 00:18:50,190 --> 00:18:54,144 We were looking at her through the glass, she sat there, 208 00:18:54,344 --> 00:18:55,405 Jaco looks at me and goes: 209 00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:59,269 "Gregory, I got to do something on the electric bass 210 00:18:59,289 --> 00:19:03,183 that's never been done before". and he pointed at Mary. 211 00:19:05,285 --> 00:19:07,377 I thought: "OK, I get it". 212 00:19:07,397 --> 00:19:12,342 he's got to support this kid, he's a working musician, 213 00:19:14,284 --> 00:19:18,278 but, a working musician around town, that's tough. 214 00:19:18,298 --> 00:19:20,300 And, the way he said it : 215 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,422 "I got to do something that's never been done before". 216 00:19:24,434 --> 00:19:26,286 Well, he did. 217 00:20:14,354 --> 00:20:15,435 That voice. 218 00:20:18,288 --> 00:20:19,389 What's the voice of music? 219 00:20:19,409 --> 00:20:22,362 It's the singer in the horn. It's not the rythm section. 220 00:20:22,382 --> 00:20:25,305 the rythm section is there doing the work to support it, 221 00:20:25,325 --> 00:20:27,357 with the setting of the ring. 222 00:20:27,377 --> 00:20:29,339 We make that diamond shine brilliantly. 223 00:20:31,281 --> 00:20:33,293 in the right setting, the gem is beautiful. 224 00:20:33,313 --> 00:20:36,286 in the wrong setting, you can't see the brilliance of it. 225 00:20:37,457 --> 00:20:39,499 So our job, primarily, 226 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:41,361 is to support that stone. 227 00:20:41,381 --> 00:20:44,314 But he was able to become the stone also. 228 00:20:51,471 --> 00:20:55,495 First thing was to learn the melody to every tune. 229 00:20:55,515 --> 00:20:58,518 Which, I feel, is like ultra important. 230 00:20:59,349 --> 00:21:01,351 The melody is always designated, let's say, 231 00:21:01,371 --> 00:21:04,464 to a horn player, a piano or a guitare. 232 00:21:04,484 --> 00:21:06,426 But it's nice to play it on a bass too. 233 00:21:06,446 --> 00:21:08,388 Certainly. And the fretless bass? 234 00:21:08,408 --> 00:21:11,521 The fretless, I... I took the frets out of my bass. 235 00:21:11,541 --> 00:21:16,376 because I was into jazz a lot and I wanted to have that upright sound. 236 00:21:16,396 --> 00:21:18,348 I had an upright. 237 00:21:18,368 --> 00:21:21,381 It took me years and years to get enough bread to get it. 238 00:21:21,401 --> 00:21:26,366 One morning, I woke up and in a corner the bass is in a hundred pieces. 239 00:21:27,497 --> 00:21:28,568 because the humidity was so bad, the upright just blew up! 240 00:21:29,289 --> 00:21:32,502 I thought: "forget it, I can't afford this anymore". 241 00:21:32,522 --> 00:21:37,307 I went out, took a knife, and took all the frets out of my Fender. 242 00:21:37,327 --> 00:21:38,348 And that was it. 243 00:21:38,368 --> 00:21:39,469 And the rest is history. 244 00:21:45,335 --> 00:21:48,308 Careful. Don't cut yourself. Don't cut me ! 245 00:21:51,341 --> 00:21:52,602 It's closer to the sound of a voice, 246 00:21:53,323 --> 00:21:55,595 to the flexibility of a voice, the inflexions, 247 00:21:56,316 --> 00:22:01,391 this add a delicate tone to the sound. 248 00:22:01,411 --> 00:22:03,383 right, it's less metallic. 249 00:22:04,324 --> 00:22:07,437 Using a fretless bass gave the instrument 250 00:22:07,457 --> 00:22:11,481 a resonnance not dissimilar to a cello. 251 00:22:12,512 --> 00:22:15,615 A resonant, rich, warm, round tone, 252 00:22:16,336 --> 00:22:17,557 that sounds like a cello. 253 00:22:17,577 --> 00:22:19,539 I think every bass player in the world, 254 00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:22,562 whan they heard that, their world was suddenly recalibrated. 255 00:22:23,413 --> 00:22:24,534 What about harmonics ? 256 00:22:24,554 --> 00:22:27,527 That's something that you pioneered. 257 00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:29,569 Instruments always had harmonics 258 00:22:29,589 --> 00:22:32,572 but what you did is almost having gone to a mine 259 00:22:32,592 --> 00:22:35,615 and found gold where there was nothing before. 260 00:22:35,635 --> 00:22:39,429 Well, when I was first playing, a friend of mine 261 00:22:39,449 --> 00:22:41,371 I saw him tuning his guitar with harmonics, 262 00:22:41,391 --> 00:22:42,612 which everybody does. 263 00:22:42,632 --> 00:22:44,504 I was just doing this... 264 00:22:44,574 --> 00:22:45,645 and it sounded like music to me. 265 00:22:46,366 --> 00:22:49,419 So I kept exploring this. That's all there is to it. 266 00:22:49,499 --> 00:22:52,552 He explored the harmonic range of the instrument 267 00:22:52,572 --> 00:22:57,407 by playing harmonics that gave the bass 268 00:22:57,427 --> 00:22:59,399 a symphonic range, 269 00:22:59,499 --> 00:23:01,511 which, again, was mindblowing. 270 00:23:42,582 --> 00:23:45,675 I think they gave me a cassette of Jaco playing, 271 00:23:45,695 --> 00:23:52,542 And I'm listening to this, wondering "who the heck is this? Nobody plays like this!" 272 00:23:54,504 --> 00:23:55,675 It was hard to describe. 273 00:23:57,637 --> 00:24:01,601 Jaco married Tracy, had two kids, John & Mary, 274 00:24:01,621 --> 00:24:05,725 definitely a family man, almost like a farmer. 275 00:24:08,618 --> 00:24:13,553 His own personality is so much in what he does, 276 00:24:13,583 --> 00:24:15,675 He was not even aware of his influence. 277 00:24:15,695 --> 00:24:17,717 You're hearing something new. 278 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,501 What I heard was him. 279 00:24:22,622 --> 00:24:24,734 And that's one of the most important elements 280 00:24:24,754 --> 00:24:26,746 that a musician must have. 281 00:24:32,492 --> 00:24:35,685 Jaco had developped his own sound. 282 00:25:19,789 --> 00:25:22,782 This was, I think, 1974. 283 00:25:22,802 --> 00:25:24,624 My band, Blood, Sweat & Tears, 284 00:25:24,644 --> 00:25:28,688 was doing a residency down there, in Bachelors III, in Fort Lauderdale. 285 00:25:31,581 --> 00:25:35,685 The softball team of Bachelors III asked me to play. 286 00:25:35,705 --> 00:25:37,717 In the center field was a blonde woman 287 00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:40,620 She had gloves on and her hands on her knees 288 00:25:42,712 --> 00:25:44,764 I just said "who are you?". She said "Oh I'm Tracy". 289 00:25:44,784 --> 00:25:47,677 I said: "How are you affiliated with this group?" 290 00:25:47,697 --> 00:25:49,569 She said "I work at the club". 291 00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:50,650 I said "I never saw you at the club". 292 00:25:50,670 --> 00:25:52,652 "I don't hang out much. I just got to go home". 293 00:25:52,672 --> 00:25:55,725 She was really cute, very sweet girl. 294 00:25:55,745 --> 00:25:57,587 I said "you're married?" 295 00:25:57,607 --> 00:26:02,652 She said "Yes", pause... "to the best bass player in the world". 296 00:26:03,613 --> 00:26:07,677 This fella shows up, thin guy, with plastic glasses, 297 00:26:07,697 --> 00:26:10,690 and he says "I'm Tracy's husband, Jaco". 298 00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:14,614 I say "Oh, I understand you're the greatest bass player in the world". 299 00:26:14,634 --> 00:26:15,765 And he says "I am". 300 00:26:15,785 --> 00:26:19,619 Of course, the arrogant New York side of me came out, 301 00:26:19,639 --> 00:26:23,703 and I said "well, why don't you get your bass and play a little bit?" 302 00:26:23,723 --> 00:26:24,744 Just play". 303 00:26:29,779 --> 00:26:33,663 He played "Donna Lee". It's a Charlie Parker song, with a solo. 304 00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:56,846 He plays it with the facility and phrasing and nuance of a sax player. 305 00:26:58,658 --> 00:26:59,729 He wouldn't go... 306 00:27:00,770 --> 00:27:01,771 He'd go, 307 00:27:02,772 --> 00:27:05,735 which I had never heard before on that instrument. 308 00:27:05,895 --> 00:27:09,869 And I said "I'm gonna try to get you a record deal". 309 00:27:17,817 --> 00:27:19,909 I brought Jaco to New York. 310 00:27:19,929 --> 00:27:23,683 He lived there with me while we were doing this album. 311 00:27:23,703 --> 00:27:26,786 Luckily, the head of New Artists was a bass player. 312 00:27:26,806 --> 00:27:31,941 And I thought "there is no one that's gonna hear this 313 00:27:32,662 --> 00:27:34,774 who plays a stringed instrument, and isn't gonna go 314 00:27:34,794 --> 00:27:36,826 "All right, let's start all over and figure out what's going on". 315 00:27:37,657 --> 00:27:39,899 And Jaco had a tremendous sense of loyalty. 316 00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:42,732 His friends in Florida meant a lot to him, 317 00:27:42,752 --> 00:27:45,755 and he wanted to keep them invloved as much as possible. 318 00:27:45,935 --> 00:27:48,668 He comes to my house and he says: 319 00:27:48,688 --> 00:27:51,911 "We got signed !" And I say: "We?" 320 00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:54,704 As if we were Simon and Garfunkel. 321 00:27:55,895 --> 00:27:58,748 He said: "Come, you got to fly up here, to New York. 322 00:27:58,768 --> 00:28:01,921 Do not come up if you're not gonna deliver". 323 00:28:02,702 --> 00:28:04,944 He didn't tell me a lot about what we were walking into. 324 00:28:06,696 --> 00:28:09,929 My first day there, I walk into Columbia Studios. 325 00:28:09,949 --> 00:28:12,692 Hubert Laws is the first one I see. 326 00:28:12,712 --> 00:28:14,924 I turn and there's Lenny White sitting behind the drums. 327 00:28:14,944 --> 00:28:18,948 And Jaco's eyes were lit up, because he knows he's found home. 328 00:28:18,968 --> 00:28:21,761 this is the level that he belongs to. 329 00:28:26,876 --> 00:28:30,830 Word got out really fast around the New York scene. 330 00:28:30,850 --> 00:28:33,733 Jaco was able to hand pick whoever he wanted. 331 00:28:36,726 --> 00:28:39,909 If you look at the pictures from that recording, 332 00:28:39,929 --> 00:28:42,872 My hair was all over my head. It was wild. 333 00:28:44,013 --> 00:28:49,819 And basically, what would happen is we would go play, take a take, 334 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:51,761 and go outside and play basketball. 335 00:28:51,841 --> 00:28:54,794 I mean we could have done this on bicycles, with microphones, 336 00:28:54,814 --> 00:28:55,985 and we would have played it perfectly 337 00:28:56,005 --> 00:28:58,748 I don't think there was a lot of takes of anything. 338 00:28:58,768 --> 00:28:59,909 And there were no expectations. 339 00:28:59,929 --> 00:29:03,853 this wasn't a hit record pop radio sort of thing. 340 00:29:04,804 --> 00:29:10,900 my goal was to bring Jaco to as many people as humanly possible, 341 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,905 to just have them listen and recognize this genius. 342 00:29:16,045 --> 00:29:18,888 and then, from there, whatever happens happens. 343 00:29:18,908 --> 00:29:20,950 But that's the goal of a first record. 344 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:22,892 And that's what I wanted to happen 345 00:29:22,912 --> 00:29:25,825 and I'm totally confident that that's exactly what happened. 346 00:29:35,785 --> 00:29:37,867 Everybody was interested in working with Jaco. 347 00:29:37,987 --> 00:29:41,971 I went over there with Ronson. "You gotta see this guy". 348 00:29:41,991 --> 00:29:44,804 Jaco just sat there, in Bobby's house, 349 00:29:44,824 --> 00:29:49,789 playing as if he was a circus freak. 350 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,033 Enormous ego, but innocent. 351 00:29:55,895 --> 00:29:57,797 He was 21 years old at that point. 352 00:29:57,817 --> 00:29:59,909 He knew about dope, he knew about all that stuff. 353 00:29:59,929 --> 00:30:01,801 He was too clever for that. 354 00:30:01,821 --> 00:30:03,883 He used to sit on top of a hill and meditate. 355 00:30:03,903 --> 00:30:05,094 He had it all down, you know. 356 00:30:07,937 --> 00:30:09,949 I was just about to do "All American Alien Boy" 357 00:30:09,969 --> 00:30:11,921 and so he said : "I'll do that". 358 00:30:11,941 --> 00:30:14,964 He was totally immersed into whatever he did. 359 00:30:15,084 --> 00:30:18,067 In my case, it was the record I was doing, but 3 month later, 360 00:30:18,087 --> 00:30:20,880 he was totally immersed in something else. 361 00:31:25,995 --> 00:31:27,977 Hello, tonight's South Bank show is about 362 00:31:27,997 --> 00:31:30,119 the american jazz band, Weather Report. 363 00:31:37,096 --> 00:31:40,009 Josef Zawinul was born in 1932 364 00:31:40,029 --> 00:31:42,151 and he grew up in a village in the Vienna woods. 365 00:31:42,171 --> 00:31:45,144 his music still draws on his memories of Austria. 366 00:31:45,194 --> 00:31:47,076 There was a guy who played the piano, 367 00:31:47,096 --> 00:31:50,960 playing something I never heard even the name : 368 00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:52,131 jazz. 369 00:31:52,151 --> 00:31:54,954 But there was something about the name, jazz, 370 00:31:54,974 --> 00:31:56,185 and I was kind of ego-tripping on this 371 00:31:56,205 --> 00:32:02,942 I said "J-A-Z-Z". Somehow, I saw my name in there. 372 00:32:04,093 --> 00:32:06,055 Zawinul began with Wayne Shorter 373 00:32:06,075 --> 00:32:09,028 in Miles Davis grand band, in 1969. 374 00:32:09,048 --> 00:32:13,192 At that time, Davis was gathering the most talented young musicians around him. 375 00:32:13,212 --> 00:32:15,945 Men like John McLaughlin, Herbie Hancock, 376 00:32:15,965 --> 00:32:17,987 Tony Williams and Chick Corea. 377 00:32:18,007 --> 00:32:22,021 together, they were forging a new kind of electronic jazz. 378 00:32:24,083 --> 00:32:27,126 We were getting in the 70s 379 00:32:27,146 --> 00:32:31,180 and we knew there was a hell of a change happening 380 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,013 and that we would be somehow responsible for it. 381 00:32:37,216 --> 00:32:42,001 When we went to Florida, we were leaving a theater, walking down the street. 382 00:32:42,121 --> 00:32:45,244 Someone from Florida walking with us, said : 383 00:32:45,975 --> 00:32:50,209 "this guy, Jaco, he's right behind you !" 384 00:32:52,121 --> 00:32:56,215 Jaco brought his album, he threw it like a frisbee to Joe 385 00:32:56,235 --> 00:32:59,018 and he said : "Hey, Joe, check this out" 386 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:01,230 And Joe got it. 387 00:33:04,053 --> 00:33:06,135 Then he said : "I want to introduce myself. 388 00:33:06,155 --> 00:33:12,061 My name is John Francis Pastorius III. I'm the greatest bass player in the world". 389 00:33:12,081 --> 00:33:15,124 And I said : "Get the fuck outta here". 390 00:33:15,995 --> 00:33:17,206 That's the way I said it. 391 00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,261 That evening, after we finished playing, 392 00:33:22,281 --> 00:33:25,104 I could hear music coming out of a room 393 00:33:25,124 --> 00:33:28,047 I kinda stopped, and it's Joe's room. 394 00:33:28,067 --> 00:33:31,170 I peep in. I didn't see Jaco, I saw his back. 395 00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:32,281 He sat back, and I could hear this recording 396 00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:36,105 and I was like "woa, who's that?" 397 00:33:36,125 --> 00:33:39,288 And Joe said "come in, come in, I want you to meet this guy, 398 00:33:39,308 --> 00:33:41,160 he's a bad motherfucker". 399 00:33:42,211 --> 00:33:46,095 So he introduces me to Jaco and we listen to his record. 400 00:33:46,115 --> 00:33:47,296 It was incredible. 401 00:33:48,267 --> 00:33:50,269 I started to put 2 and 2 together. 402 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:54,253 Here is this phenomenal bass player Joe is interested in, 403 00:33:54,273 --> 00:33:57,156 What are my chances of being around much longer? 404 00:33:57,176 --> 00:34:02,091 So I just went to the other gig, and it worked out perfect. 405 00:34:04,133 --> 00:34:06,145 All of a sudden out got the news. 406 00:34:06,165 --> 00:34:09,158 Alfonso Johnson leaves the band to join another band 407 00:34:09,178 --> 00:34:13,062 with George Duke and Billy Cobhan. 408 00:34:13,082 --> 00:34:17,206 It was July 1975. we just came back from Boston. 409 00:34:17,226 --> 00:34:19,278 Cannonball Adderley had died. 410 00:34:19,298 --> 00:34:22,071 It was a very hard thing for me. 411 00:34:22,091 --> 00:34:24,263 I wrote a song that was called "Cannonball". 412 00:34:24,283 --> 00:34:27,156 I had this little melody in the begining, 413 00:34:27,176 --> 00:34:31,240 and I thought this guy's tone would be perfect for this. 414 00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:36,115 We started right with this particular tune. 415 00:34:36,135 --> 00:34:41,140 In the beginning, he was busy, so we stopped the band and said: 416 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,342 "We already know you can play. 417 00:34:43,362 --> 00:34:48,217 Forget about this, you are here with us, with Weather. 418 00:34:48,237 --> 00:34:51,140 you have a beautiful tone, use that tone". 419 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,253 And what happened at that point is on the record. 420 00:35:17,496 --> 00:35:21,135 Joe told me he wanted that Florida sound on "Cannonball". 421 00:35:22,009 --> 00:35:24,015 - "That Florida sound"? - Yeah. 422 00:35:34,647 --> 00:35:36,836 For Wayne and me, he was the third... 423 00:35:37,036 --> 00:35:42,335 If you have a triangle, this was 3 forceful personalities, 424 00:35:42,535 --> 00:35:47,038 totally different, and nobody giving an inch. 425 00:35:46,546 --> 00:35:50,765 Joe, when we finished that tune, he called his wife, Maxine, 426 00:35:51,301 --> 00:35:55,577 "Maxine, please, tell so and so to cook tonight. 427 00:35:55,777 --> 00:35:57,250 make a lot of food, lots of wine, etc, 428 00:35:57,830 --> 00:36:00,596 We're gonna have a banquet tonight because we're gonna celebrate... 429 00:36:00,813 --> 00:36:02,982 a new guy has come, a genius. 430 00:36:03,864 --> 00:36:05,882 and Jaco, right there, told Joe : 431 00:36:07,205 --> 00:36:09,407 "I need to talk to the managers of Weather Report". 432 00:36:08,607 --> 00:36:09,986 Jaco told them : 433 00:36:11,458 --> 00:36:15,357 "I want to know if I can put one song in the album". 434 00:36:16,276 --> 00:36:18,128 And they laughed at him. 435 00:36:18,687 --> 00:36:20,182 The guys were telling him on the phone : 436 00:36:21,524 --> 00:36:25,467 "Hey, Weather Report are the best writers in the world". 437 00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:28,314 And he said : "that's right, but I want to put in a tune". 438 00:36:29,052 --> 00:36:34,032 And then... That's... 439 00:36:51,985 --> 00:36:53,509 He knew how serious it is 440 00:36:54,064 --> 00:36:57,339 to leave a piece of your soul in the recording, because, 441 00:36:57,517 --> 00:36:59,519 it's gonna stay there forever. 442 00:37:05,085 --> 00:37:07,192 it's not about bass playing. 443 00:37:08,028 --> 00:37:09,708 it was being a storyteller. 444 00:37:10,222 --> 00:37:12,870 We said we were playing music with hills, valleys... 445 00:37:13,672 --> 00:37:16,138 extremes and confrontations. 446 00:37:21,453 --> 00:37:24,357 people think that playing jazz is just a couple chords. 447 00:37:24,995 --> 00:37:29,049 They call 'Earth, wind & fire' jazz and they call 'Kenny G' jazz. 448 00:37:29,649 --> 00:37:31,928 It's not. It's deeper than that. 449 00:37:35,732 --> 00:37:40,441 Jazz is a challenge to improvise and be in the moment. 450 00:37:41,956 --> 00:37:44,258 that one moment equals eternity. 451 00:37:48,492 --> 00:37:55,427 The sound of the music that is produced is the greatness of the human being. 452 00:38:31,671 --> 00:38:34,157 It was just new, it was fresh. There was nothing like it. 453 00:38:34,357 --> 00:38:36,986 And we were all like: "Man, Jaco !" 454 00:38:37,186 --> 00:38:41,236 It's like going to a game and you're rooting for Michael Jordan. 455 00:38:41,821 --> 00:38:46,981 It's impossible, or very difficult, not to like someone who... 456 00:38:47,182 --> 00:38:49,209 we all identified with at that point. we all rooted for him. 457 00:38:49,634 --> 00:38:51,731 He pushed the envelopped. 458 00:38:52,014 --> 00:38:56,791 He pushed you to do your best. 459 00:38:56,991 --> 00:39:02,251 And I think, in doing that, he helped push that whole era 460 00:39:02,451 --> 00:39:04,384 There was no boundaries. 461 00:39:06,521 --> 00:39:09,280 It was like : "if he can do that, then maybe I can do this". 462 00:39:16,663 --> 00:39:21,627 It was a musical movement going on, and we were in it. 463 00:39:23,213 --> 00:39:24,991 So Google it, baby. 464 00:39:36,969 --> 00:39:40,499 Lot of promotion, sold out shows across the country. 465 00:39:41,011 --> 00:39:42,350 People going crazy. 466 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:47,269 It was really exciting, because prior to that, that didnt exist. 467 00:39:47,909 --> 00:39:52,184 Rock was rock, jazz was jazz, there wasn't a lot of fusion going on. 468 00:40:03,045 --> 00:40:05,715 Back then, you went to see Van Halen 469 00:40:05,915 --> 00:40:09,135 and then you would go see Jaco Pastorius with Weather Report 470 00:40:09,335 --> 00:40:11,310 or Stanley Clark with Return to Forever. 471 00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:14,677 it was an outrageous virtuosity 472 00:40:22,930 --> 00:40:24,487 you know, like playing all this crazy shit. 473 00:40:24,850 --> 00:40:26,083 I was a kid, and I was like : 474 00:40:26,606 --> 00:40:30,146 "this guy is the coolest motherfucker that ever lived !". 475 00:40:33,645 --> 00:40:36,442 The so-called "jazz police" was furious. 476 00:40:36,857 --> 00:40:39,587 That same people that was going to Ozzy Osbourne concerts 477 00:40:39,787 --> 00:40:42,795 were now coming to Return To Forever and Weather Report. 478 00:40:42,995 --> 00:40:46,588 you go there, you play everything at 99 miles per hour, 479 00:40:46,942 --> 00:40:49,547 and as loud and as fast as you can. 480 00:41:25,966 --> 00:41:28,150 The band hired me 481 00:41:28,351 --> 00:41:31,089 pretty much exclusively thanks to Jaco's recommendation. 482 00:41:32,593 --> 00:41:36,734 Jaco and I were half the age of Joe and Wayne. 483 00:41:37,064 --> 00:41:39,179 We were the kids and they were the elders. 484 00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:43,408 and yet, Joe y Jaco would compete like brothers. 485 00:41:45,291 --> 00:41:47,622 He could go toe to toe with Zawinul, 486 00:41:48,107 --> 00:41:50,519 were anyone else would feel the tread. 487 00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:08,961 Thank you ! 488 00:42:10,730 --> 00:42:12,532 Danke Sch�n ! 489 00:42:15,545 --> 00:42:17,347 Peter Erskine ! 490 00:42:19,972 --> 00:42:21,746 Jaco... Pastorius ! 491 00:42:22,486 --> 00:42:24,265 Joseph Zawinul ! 492 00:42:26,203 --> 00:42:28,483 Jow Zawinul would come and say : 493 00:42:28,683 --> 00:42:32,118 "We got the greatest band in the world, man, you know. 494 00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:33,503 I mean, like, please... 495 00:42:33,703 --> 00:42:37,394 everybody's playing this stuff, but we play the real deal". 496 00:42:38,849 --> 00:42:41,653 And Jaco considered himself the greatest bass player in the world. 497 00:42:42,534 --> 00:42:45,290 So you got the greatest bass player in the world in the greatest band in the world. 498 00:42:45,490 --> 00:42:49,621 Oh man, those two 499 00:42:49,821 --> 00:42:51,348 were like two cobras 500 00:42:51,937 --> 00:42:55,579 Two cobras in a very small cage, 501 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,148 with nowhere to go, they have to make their relationship work. 502 00:43:01,428 --> 00:43:04,326 that's what it was like, watching them on stage. 503 00:43:04,526 --> 00:43:07,797 and I can remember Zawinul, with his speed 504 00:43:07,997 --> 00:43:11,591 in between the cracks, there would be Jaco 505 00:43:21,384 --> 00:43:24,344 and I remember sitting there, hearing this conversation, 506 00:43:24,544 --> 00:43:25,484 he would come in and out 507 00:43:25,684 --> 00:43:29,616 this is when I realized : man, this is like a boxing match. 508 00:43:34,614 --> 00:43:42,058 it was always surprising when I heard him criticize Jaco. "He sounds like a trombone sometimes"... 509 00:43:42,885 --> 00:43:46,043 "'Teen Town', this is not really a Weather Report song". 510 00:43:47,932 --> 00:43:50,435 Jaco hated that. He didn't want to hang around for any of that. 511 00:43:50,635 --> 00:43:52,296 so he would disappear. 512 00:43:54,231 --> 00:43:56,651 Jaco respected his jazz elders, 513 00:43:57,365 --> 00:44:00,720 and yet, he wasn't above ruffling their feathers. 514 00:44:02,331 --> 00:44:05,193 In these photos, you can see Wayne in the background 515 00:44:05,394 --> 00:44:07,470 He has a drink and a cigarette, he's just watching. 516 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:10,937 Wayne never said anything. Joe was doing all the talking. 517 00:44:12,837 --> 00:44:16,637 Jaco just said "Me and Frank Sinatra we're Sagitarians. 518 00:44:16,837 --> 00:44:20,264 I'm a Sage, he's a Sage". 519 00:44:21,466 --> 00:44:25,315 He met my mother, and he said : "you're a Sage?" 520 00:44:25,516 --> 00:44:27,324 My mother said : "I'm a Sage too". 521 00:44:27,525 --> 00:44:33,285 She always talked about courage and guts to get through the damn day 522 00:44:33,879 --> 00:44:39,127 She was saying about Jaco : "That child" - she was saying like this - 523 00:44:40,328 --> 00:44:43,383 "That child, he knows what he's talking about". 524 00:44:44,584 --> 00:44:46,156 "but he's mighty wild, though, ain't he?" 525 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,596 His identity in music and theater was coming out. 526 00:44:54,726 --> 00:44:57,296 That's what Jaco had, a history. 527 00:44:57,497 --> 00:45:00,800 Not like a library, but a history of being open 528 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,184 and not shutting out many kinds of music. 529 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,697 the bass almost became incidental. 530 00:46:32,406 --> 00:46:35,263 For this next song, I have to use a funny tune. 531 00:46:36,442 --> 00:46:38,425 This is a song about a daydreamer. 532 00:46:39,561 --> 00:46:44,341 Daydreaming can get you into a lot of difficulties sometimes, 533 00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:46,917 if it's not used properly. 534 00:46:57,243 --> 00:47:00,449 It took me a long time to find a rythm section 535 00:47:00,650 --> 00:47:01,510 that could play my music. 536 00:47:02,674 --> 00:47:04,584 so I went thru a lot of players, 537 00:47:04,784 --> 00:47:06,587 put them on the record and take them off, 538 00:47:06,787 --> 00:47:10,957 it wasn't until my 6th album, that one of the guys in the section, 539 00:47:11,930 --> 00:47:14,138 Russ Kunkel, the drummer, said to me : 540 00:47:14,338 --> 00:47:17,144 "Joni, you're gonna have to play with jazz musicians". 541 00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:21,657 I had this guy, he'd play what I was gonna play, and I said: 542 00:47:21,857 --> 00:47:25,163 "Could you play this note?" and he went : "I'm not playing that ! 543 00:47:25,363 --> 00:47:26,383 That's not the root of the chord !" 544 00:47:26,584 --> 00:47:28,388 And I said : "Well, it will be when you play it". 545 00:47:28,908 --> 00:47:31,909 And he rebelled on another issue and, finally, he said : 546 00:47:32,109 --> 00:47:37,025 "There's this really weird bass player in Florida. You'd probably like him". 547 00:47:38,562 --> 00:47:41,161 I asked : "Would he play these things I'm asking you?" 548 00:47:41,361 --> 00:47:44,650 "He's alreaady doing that weird stuff". 549 00:47:44,850 --> 00:47:47,474 So I sent for Jaco. 550 00:48:30,178 --> 00:48:31,497 I set up this architecture... 551 00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:35,015 and he just kind of instinctively played, figuratively. 552 00:48:36,536 --> 00:48:40,600 you're inviting another painter to join you on your canvas, 553 00:48:41,611 --> 00:48:43,463 It's very conversational. 554 00:49:03,463 --> 00:49:06,636 Jaco went into work one night and he said : "Look at my neck". 555 00:49:07,497 --> 00:49:11,712 I looked and on this side, there was a bruise and a redness, 556 00:49:13,603 --> 00:49:17,597 hollow, looked like it had been made by a pipe. 557 00:49:18,488 --> 00:49:22,462 He was driving home the night before, from the studio, 558 00:49:22,482 --> 00:49:25,625 straight up Sunset Boulevard to this hotel where he was staying 559 00:49:26,737 --> 00:49:28,608 and the cops pulled him over. 560 00:49:29,549 --> 00:49:31,661 and I dont know what he said to that cop, 561 00:49:32,572 --> 00:49:36,686 but the next thing he knew, the cop had his pistol shoved into his throat. 562 00:49:37,698 --> 00:49:40,741 Deeply, because the impression was still there 563 00:49:40,761 --> 00:49:44,584 24 hours later, or 20 hours later. 564 00:49:45,575 --> 00:49:48,588 And while that cop had that pistol in his throat, 565 00:49:48,608 --> 00:49:52,542 he said : "I said to myself it's not my time to die". 566 00:49:54,584 --> 00:49:59,549 but he, apparently, seemed to know when his time to die was. 567 00:50:00,630 --> 00:50:03,633 This was a side of him that not many people knew about. 568 00:50:04,614 --> 00:50:08,618 I remember he took me to a bar in Keio Plaza to have a drink. 569 00:50:08,759 --> 00:50:13,653 And we get the sake, we have a drink, and he starts crying. 570 00:50:13,673 --> 00:50:16,726 I said : "What's wrong? What's wrong, man?" 571 00:50:16,747 --> 00:50:21,581 And he said: "Well listen, I'm gonna die when I turn 34 572 00:50:21,721 --> 00:50:24,634 and I would like you to look after my babies". 573 00:50:26,626 --> 00:50:28,708 So I said : "You got it". 574 00:50:29,539 --> 00:50:31,611 Sometimes you see things you don't wanna know, 575 00:50:32,692 --> 00:50:34,554 Especially about yourself. 576 00:50:34,574 --> 00:50:36,676 And this was one of those times for Jaco. 577 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,754 My vision of my dad, in my mind's eye, always goes to that period. 578 00:51:27,807 --> 00:51:32,672 He has no shirt on, he's in corduroy cutoff Levi's shorts, 579 00:51:32,692 --> 00:51:35,625 he's in bare foot and his hair's long. 580 00:51:35,645 --> 00:51:36,726 He's tan. 581 00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:44,804 He was so young when I was born, he wasn't famous yet. 582 00:51:47,687 --> 00:51:51,831 If he had gigs outside, in a bar, we went. 583 00:51:51,852 --> 00:51:54,644 So I had him there every day. 584 00:51:56,826 --> 00:51:59,689 He would point out birds sounds, 585 00:51:59,709 --> 00:52:02,672 wind blowing through leaves or chimes. 586 00:52:02,832 --> 00:52:04,744 he heard music in everything. 587 00:52:14,895 --> 00:52:17,797 it's a gift, and it's a burden too. 588 00:52:21,661 --> 00:52:23,853 Mi padre was my hero, man. He is my hero. 589 00:52:23,874 --> 00:52:27,908 Every dad should be their son's hero. 590 00:52:30,850 --> 00:52:32,903 He bought a Yamaha 750, 591 00:52:33,944 --> 00:52:36,816 we would jump on, and ride all the way up to the coast. 592 00:52:39,739 --> 00:52:41,751 I would never tell him I'm scared. 593 00:52:41,771 --> 00:52:43,773 You know, I would hold on, terrified. 594 00:52:43,793 --> 00:52:45,805 Hold him on, that's what I miss the most. 595 00:52:52,943 --> 00:52:54,965 He was a great dad. 596 00:52:55,966 --> 00:52:58,858 But I know he wanted to be there more. 597 00:53:17,757 --> 00:53:20,890 I remember poscards he always sent to John and Mary. 598 00:53:20,910 --> 00:53:24,894 Every postcard would point out a historical fact, 599 00:53:24,914 --> 00:53:27,978 or post a question to get the kids thinking. 600 00:53:28,938 --> 00:53:30,951 Almost every morning, without fail. 601 00:53:30,971 --> 00:53:33,883 It was an important part of the routine, when we travelled, to find postcards. 602 00:53:33,903 --> 00:53:37,797 to get stamps for those postcards. 603 00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:40,920 Any city we went to, 604 00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:43,003 no matter how tired we were, 605 00:53:43,723 --> 00:53:44,794 we were gonna hit the streets. 606 00:53:44,814 --> 00:53:49,859 we were going to see the best of what Florence, Rome or Milan had to offer. 607 00:53:49,879 --> 00:53:54,914 Venice, let's ride on the gondolas, let's go to the canals. 608 00:53:54,934 --> 00:53:59,879 When would we get the chance to do that? We had fun. 609 00:54:02,762 --> 00:54:07,837 I never saw him in those first tours act tired, drunk, 610 00:54:07,857 --> 00:54:09,039 It was all a good time. 611 00:54:11,981 --> 00:54:13,994 But it was present. 612 00:54:14,884 --> 00:54:16,956 He was like a kid. 613 00:54:16,976 --> 00:54:22,792 He would do things like hide on a bus while it's moving. 614 00:54:23,043 --> 00:54:27,037 And Zawinul would be looking for him for 30 min, nobody would find him. 615 00:54:28,018 --> 00:54:32,812 Then he would give up, and Jaco would come out, laughing. 616 00:54:32,832 --> 00:54:35,815 The kind of things he would do. Very playful. 617 00:54:36,786 --> 00:54:37,897 Going on stage, 618 00:54:37,917 --> 00:54:40,810 "No prisoners" was the last thing you would hear him say. 619 00:54:41,021 --> 00:54:42,882 "No prisoners". 620 00:54:53,083 --> 00:54:57,997 March, 1979, 200 singers, musicians and technicians 621 00:54:58,017 --> 00:54:59,859 and 70 tons of equipment 622 00:54:59,879 --> 00:55:03,973 arrive at the Jos� Mart� airport, at the Havana, for "The Havana Jam". 623 00:55:05,955 --> 00:55:07,957 OK, Havana, here we are. 624 00:55:07,977 --> 00:55:10,850 It's really happening for the first time ever. 625 00:55:11,020 --> 00:55:13,042 Looking out the window of this car, 626 00:55:13,063 --> 00:55:16,846 I feel more like Christopher Colombus than Kris Kristofferson. 627 00:55:17,877 --> 00:55:19,008 Havana Jam. 628 00:55:19,028 --> 00:55:23,993 Kris Kristofferson, Rita Coolidge, Steven Stills, Billy Joel. 629 00:55:24,013 --> 00:55:28,898 It was odd. Billy Joel and Jaco giving each other attitude. 630 00:55:29,909 --> 00:55:32,932 With all the bands there to support each other, 631 00:55:32,952 --> 00:55:34,874 but were kind of dissing each other. 632 00:55:34,894 --> 00:55:36,976 It's gonna be a face to face confrontation between 633 00:55:36,996 --> 00:55:39,869 people who had best only heard of each other 634 00:55:39,889 --> 00:55:41,841 over 90 miles of Caribbean water. 635 00:55:42,001 --> 00:55:43,012 For 3 nights, 636 00:55:43,032 --> 00:55:45,905 the stage of the Carlo Marc theater, in La Havana, Cuba, 637 00:55:45,925 --> 00:55:48,067 will be shared by american and cuban musicians, 638 00:55:48,087 --> 00:55:50,140 in a unique cultural exchange. 639 00:55:50,860 --> 00:55:52,001 the first of its kind, 640 00:55:52,021 --> 00:55:54,954 since political, economical and philosophical differences 641 00:55:54,974 --> 00:55:57,877 separated our two countries 20 years ago. 642 00:55:58,998 --> 00:56:01,891 That characteristic pulse in the center of Cuban music 643 00:56:01,911 --> 00:56:03,032 is an african heartbeat. 644 00:56:03,863 --> 00:56:07,036 I think you've heard it in the works of the astonishing Tata G�ines. 645 00:56:35,895 --> 00:56:39,068 Jaco was like a kid getting the autograph of Tata G�ines. 646 00:56:43,923 --> 00:56:46,166 Many of the patterns Jaco had played on the bass 647 00:56:46,186 --> 00:56:48,047 were really conga patterns. 648 00:56:50,009 --> 00:56:54,964 Jaco's whole Florida beat, this whole caribbean thing, it's that. 649 00:56:59,018 --> 00:57:01,010 Coincidentally, The Havana Jam 650 00:57:01,030 --> 00:57:03,943 was the first sign of things going wrong. 651 00:57:06,135 --> 00:57:11,971 Jaco got into a thing with one of the musicians of the Nathaniel All Stars. 652 00:57:11,991 --> 00:57:14,113 I think these guys were from Puerto Rico. 653 00:57:15,014 --> 00:57:16,996 And I don't know if there was some cuban, 654 00:57:17,016 --> 00:57:19,209 portorican musical dynamic, 655 00:57:20,089 --> 00:57:26,216 but the guy, definitely, was giving Jaco very little attention. 656 00:57:27,997 --> 00:57:30,089 Jaco almost got into a fist fight. 657 00:57:30,109 --> 00:57:32,031 I think Joe had to break it up. 658 00:57:32,051 --> 00:57:33,973 And then, Jaco lost face, 659 00:57:33,993 --> 00:57:39,048 and I think part of his mecanism of defense against losing face 660 00:57:39,068 --> 00:57:43,212 played out in his Trio of Doom, 661 00:57:43,233 --> 00:57:47,176 that had tremendously successful rehearsals in New York 662 00:57:51,130 --> 00:57:56,025 It was the buzz talk of the whole trip, the Trio of Doom. 663 00:57:56,976 --> 00:57:59,259 the jazz, rock, or whatever you want to call it, 664 00:57:59,979 --> 00:58:01,090 of the Three Tenors. 665 00:58:03,232 --> 00:58:07,186 Tonight we have the visit of a group of american artists... 666 00:58:07,206 --> 00:58:09,108 It could have been great. 667 00:58:09,279 --> 00:58:14,994 But once Jaco got into his self-destruct mode... 668 00:58:17,106 --> 00:58:20,079 which unfortunately occured during this set, 669 00:58:21,090 --> 00:58:24,083 the concert was pretty much considered a disaster. 670 00:58:24,103 --> 00:58:27,126 Jaco was not himself. 671 00:58:28,237 --> 00:58:32,041 Playing "Portrait of Tracy" turning up the bass really loud, 672 00:58:32,061 --> 00:58:33,162 not playing the tunes... 673 00:58:35,124 --> 00:58:39,118 Tony never forgave him. And there was an odd pattern. 674 00:58:39,289 --> 00:58:42,101 Whenever Jaco would lose face 675 00:58:42,121 --> 00:58:44,294 there would be this odd acting out. 676 00:58:46,175 --> 00:58:48,067 I don't know what the dynamics are. 677 00:58:48,277 --> 00:58:51,301 My dad was a psychiatrist who tried to help Jaco. 678 00:58:52,271 --> 00:58:56,265 But my father didn't pass on too much to me... 679 00:58:58,097 --> 00:59:01,210 There was some complicated stuff going on. 680 00:59:42,221 --> 00:59:46,115 We played in Santa Barbara, Jaco came onto the tour. 681 00:59:46,135 --> 00:59:49,379 He came late to the rehearsals, shoved my microphone off the center, 682 00:59:50,099 --> 00:59:52,362 plugged in his bass, dirtied the floor, 683 00:59:52,382 --> 00:59:56,225 he played long solos where he danced a lot. 684 01:00:19,148 --> 01:00:20,379 on bass, Jaco Pastorius. 685 01:00:26,155 --> 01:00:30,359 In Santa Barbara, where we filmed, his wife and his mother showed up. 686 01:00:32,231 --> 01:00:36,355 I don't know what these women did to him in the backroom, but it was good, 687 01:00:36,375 --> 01:00:42,331 because when he came out that night and took his solo, he opened up by quoting: 688 01:00:42,351 --> 01:00:44,213 "I feel high and mighty". 689 01:01:09,198 --> 01:01:10,429 He was starting to fall apart. 690 01:01:10,450 --> 01:01:15,465 Jaco, the kids, Tracy, fame and all that. 691 01:01:17,286 --> 01:01:18,437 Something's changing. 692 01:01:45,454 --> 01:01:47,356 Jaco took the fame hit. 693 01:01:50,329 --> 01:01:54,343 I can't imagine walking out or doing something 694 01:01:54,363 --> 01:01:57,386 and all of a sudden all these people congregate around you 695 01:01:57,406 --> 01:02:03,222 and want to know you, talk to you, be part of what's going on, 696 01:02:04,343 --> 01:02:05,394 that frightens me. 697 01:02:06,295 --> 01:02:10,369 Suddenly he was entering some kind of challenge that didn't exist before 698 01:02:13,442 --> 01:02:17,276 Certainly, Tracy's relationship was home for him. 699 01:02:17,406 --> 01:02:23,342 And it pained him and saddened him that this relationship ended. 700 01:02:24,333 --> 01:02:28,528 I think that was a huge loss for him, 701 01:02:30,439 --> 01:02:36,546 a failure in the life of a guy who had experienced so much triumph. 702 01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:54,443 he was conveying his inner self onto his canvas. 703 01:02:54,463 --> 01:02:57,386 Everything came out on the instrument. 704 01:02:57,406 --> 01:02:59,528 as if he was on the psychiatrist couch 705 01:02:59,548 --> 01:03:02,391 and revealed everything about who he was. 706 01:05:14,623 --> 01:05:17,556 - So tell me, what happened on that tour with Joni, 707 01:05:17,576 --> 01:05:19,709 did it opened any new things for you? 708 01:05:21,490 --> 01:05:25,464 - No, no. I'm just doing my own thing. 709 01:05:25,574 --> 01:05:27,717 - But have you got any project happening? 710 01:05:29,438 --> 01:05:30,519 - I don't know, you know. 711 01:05:30,539 --> 01:05:33,432 Because I still have this assignment, you know? 712 01:05:35,654 --> 01:05:37,696 So, you're hanging on with Epic? 713 01:05:37,716 --> 01:05:40,549 or you try to renegociate with them? 714 01:05:40,569 --> 01:05:43,472 Oh, they're such assholes, you know... 715 01:05:43,492 --> 01:05:46,515 Do you have a contract that gives them an option on your next album ? 716 01:05:46,535 --> 01:05:48,457 Yeah, but that doesn't matter to me, ha ha ha ! 717 01:05:48,707 --> 01:05:50,729 All this legal shit 718 01:05:51,450 --> 01:05:52,701 in the record business has got to change, 719 01:05:52,721 --> 01:05:55,514 because it's 100% rip-off. 720 01:05:55,534 --> 01:05:57,526 I will never put up with any of that shit. 721 01:05:57,696 --> 01:05:59,688 I will never get ripped off like that. 722 01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:02,661 Because I don't care, 723 01:06:02,681 --> 01:06:05,624 I'll just go home and play base-ball all day. 724 01:06:05,644 --> 01:06:07,746 Which I do when I'm home, you know what I mean? 725 01:06:08,467 --> 01:06:11,530 And play basketball, and play frisbee, and just have fun. 726 01:06:12,731 --> 01:06:16,625 The key issues in his life were family breaking up, 727 01:06:17,516 --> 01:06:18,687 big changes in his family, 728 01:06:21,500 --> 01:06:28,507 and also dissatisfaction with his established work. 729 01:06:28,527 --> 01:06:34,543 what was on record so far for him left him dissatisfied. 730 01:06:35,614 --> 01:06:39,508 He had married Ingrid and moved up to Deerfield Beach. 731 01:06:42,581 --> 01:06:44,683 We would get together at 4 a.m. 732 01:06:45,574 --> 01:06:48,597 and he wanted to be recording every morning when the sun came up. 733 01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:53,552 he obviously had compositions or ideas 734 01:06:53,722 --> 01:06:56,705 there is a lot of hints of those on the first record. 735 01:06:57,606 --> 01:07:01,610 "Okonkol� y Trompa" is a masterpiece. 736 01:07:01,630 --> 01:07:03,562 Almost classical music. 737 01:07:09,638 --> 01:07:13,592 He had things to show people they never heard before. 738 01:07:16,235 --> 01:07:19,618 They were in his head for quite a while. 739 01:07:20,579 --> 01:07:22,591 People realized that : 740 01:07:23,582 --> 01:07:27,696 "We don't know what this is. Show us". 741 01:07:59,178 --> 01:08:02,137 There was a buzz on Jaco, of course. 742 01:08:02,337 --> 01:08:05,074 Here is a guy that can write, that can arrange, that can play. 743 01:08:05,174 --> 01:08:06,836 He was a collaborator. 744 01:08:07,586 --> 01:08:11,753 It was apparent to some of us that this guy was really something special. 745 01:08:12,356 --> 01:08:13,943 And, in addition to being something special, 746 01:08:14,194 --> 01:08:16,755 he had the potential to break through and cross over. 747 01:08:16,775 --> 01:08:20,709 We set out on a quest to get Jaco to Warner Brothers. 748 01:08:21,610 --> 01:08:24,723 It was a star-level deal, make no mistake about it. 749 01:08:24,743 --> 01:08:27,686 And, because the record business is a business, 750 01:08:27,706 --> 01:08:30,799 expectations tend to follow the deal. 751 01:08:30,879 --> 01:08:33,662 If you sign an act for 75.000 dollars, 752 01:08:33,682 --> 01:08:36,815 your expectations are at one level. 753 01:08:37,686 --> 01:08:39,718 If you sign an act for four times that... 754 01:08:58,697 --> 01:09:00,899 He said : "You know what dub is?" 755 01:09:02,671 --> 01:09:05,864 I said : "I believe I do, yeah... 756 01:09:05,884 --> 01:09:10,919 it's like the old reggae, the guy dropping the fader, 757 01:09:10,939 --> 01:09:13,862 talking over..." and he goes, "yeah, it's gonna be different. 758 01:09:13,882 --> 01:09:18,737 we're not gonna let anybody hear anyone else's parts. 759 01:09:18,768 --> 01:09:22,702 Whatever happens, let's see if it fits". 760 01:09:22,722 --> 01:09:26,676 It had a life of its own, it really grew powerfully. 761 01:09:45,975 --> 01:09:49,829 It's very rare that any record has a piece on it like this. 762 01:09:49,899 --> 01:09:53,693 Pablo Picasso 'Guernica', Jaco Pastorius 'Crisis'. 763 01:09:53,713 --> 01:09:54,904 They are of the same cloth. 764 01:10:06,806 --> 01:10:08,958 He wanted to open the record with this. 765 01:10:08,978 --> 01:10:11,821 A lot of people in this company, if they heard this track, 766 01:10:11,841 --> 01:10:14,714 they would say "we can't even have this, 767 01:10:14,734 --> 01:10:15,745 this is crazy, 768 01:10:15,765 --> 01:10:18,718 It's a cacophony, it's atonal, nobody can follow it, it's scary..." 769 01:10:18,738 --> 01:10:19,939 I'm shaking right now just thinking about it, 770 01:10:19,959 --> 01:10:22,902 I was scared of the idea of it opening the record. 771 01:10:22,922 --> 01:10:25,945 They pleaded with him. They said : "Any other tune, but that. 772 01:10:25,965 --> 01:10:30,019 We can't get this album onto radio if that's the first track". 773 01:10:30,970 --> 01:10:35,975 I think it made him very happy, this going on to record. 774 01:10:48,027 --> 01:10:50,850 I would say that he was venting. 775 01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:53,883 He was venting a little bit of personal frustration. 776 01:10:54,974 --> 01:10:57,807 And then he realized this is the only way 777 01:10:57,827 --> 01:10:59,799 to start a record like this. 778 01:10:59,819 --> 01:11:03,052 It's to make people wonder : "What's coming?" 779 01:11:03,773 --> 01:11:06,776 And then what comes is so different. 780 01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:45,815 The 'Word of Mouth' album was so revealing of Jaco as a person. 781 01:11:45,835 --> 01:11:50,930 It was almost embarassing to listen to, it was so intimate at times. 782 01:11:51,891 --> 01:11:55,104 It was the most courageous thing he's ever done, 783 01:11:55,825 --> 01:11:57,897 the most daring thing he's done. 784 01:11:58,067 --> 01:12:02,011 It's Jaco's internal thing, the real truth of who he is. 785 01:12:47,076 --> 01:12:50,109 There were some people that were less than thrilled about this. 786 01:12:50,129 --> 01:12:53,032 They said: "Wait a minute. This is like a switcheroo. 787 01:12:53,052 --> 01:12:55,935 We signed this guy to make this big hit fusion record, 788 01:12:55,955 --> 01:12:58,077 now he's doing this thing over here". 789 01:13:00,930 --> 01:13:04,143 I know how comfortable he was with the concept, 790 01:13:04,163 --> 01:13:07,977 how good he felt with what he was doing, and it was right. 791 01:13:12,161 --> 01:13:19,108 The label had never acknowledged the master work that it was 792 01:13:19,979 --> 01:13:24,904 and it hurt Jaco. Deeply. To tears. It really did hurt him. 793 01:13:26,025 --> 01:13:29,088 I remember Jaco really needing Joe's approval. 794 01:13:29,959 --> 01:13:35,064 We would call him on the phone and play the tape with the phone held up. 795 01:13:36,035 --> 01:13:42,191 All the time, and it was often the end of the day session, 796 01:13:42,211 --> 01:13:46,936 because Joe would be cruelly dismissive. 797 01:13:47,156 --> 01:13:50,950 I kinda wanted to say to Jaco: "Let's not call Joe today". 798 01:13:52,191 --> 01:13:57,196 Joe had a fighter's instinct, a boxer's instinct. 799 01:13:57,216 --> 01:13:59,048 He had a Miles instinct. 800 01:13:59,959 --> 01:14:06,215 So he had a glass chin, a soft spot in the belly, 801 01:14:07,076 --> 01:14:08,948 They knew how to fight it pretty quick. 802 01:14:09,979 --> 01:14:16,095 The final tour began with Joe listening to the Word of Mouth album. 803 01:14:17,016 --> 01:14:20,179 He wanted to wait for the perfect moment to play the music for Joe. 804 01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:24,253 And he thought after flying to Tokyo would be the perfect moment. 805 01:14:25,975 --> 01:14:28,998 Joe takes off his earphones and I hear him say : 806 01:14:29,969 --> 01:14:33,172 "That sounds like some typical high school big band bullshit". 807 01:14:34,994 --> 01:14:40,059 That's what Joe said about 'Liberty City'. I couldn't believe it. 808 01:14:41,070 --> 01:14:46,005 That was Joe's way of slapping down the son 809 01:14:46,025 --> 01:14:51,000 who's threatening his reign, in a sense. 810 01:14:52,101 --> 01:14:54,223 That fucking music was on the highest level. 811 01:14:56,115 --> 01:14:57,256 John and Mary... 812 01:14:58,267 --> 01:15:02,031 Joe would love to write something like that. 813 01:15:05,064 --> 01:15:09,218 I think that was fear from Joe, 814 01:15:13,242 --> 01:15:16,245 feeling that the son had taken over. 815 01:15:22,051 --> 01:15:23,242 Where do you wanna go from here? 816 01:15:24,143 --> 01:15:26,055 I got it, I got it ! 817 01:15:32,221 --> 01:15:35,314 In 1982, I'm gonna take off from Weather Report. 818 01:15:36,145 --> 01:15:38,077 We've been together a long time, 819 01:15:38,097 --> 01:15:41,070 but, just like everything else, you gotta have space too. 820 01:15:41,330 --> 01:15:45,144 Playing with Weather Report didnt allow me any time to do anything. 821 01:15:48,077 --> 01:15:50,299 So i said to myself : "Forget it Jaco, you got to get to work". 822 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:53,212 And I don't care what Joe thinks about it, 823 01:15:53,232 --> 01:15:55,274 because I know I can get the job done. 824 01:15:56,225 --> 01:15:57,326 And that's it". 825 01:16:03,162 --> 01:16:06,235 Jaco would come up and just stay with us. 826 01:16:07,186 --> 01:16:11,170 We would play in a club, right down where I lived, 827 01:16:11,190 --> 01:16:15,445 called 55 Grand Street. 828 01:16:15,946 --> 01:16:21,757 The problem for me at that point was that I was totally out. 829 01:16:21,957 --> 01:16:23,414 I was really high a lot. 830 01:16:23,615 --> 01:16:25,174 So much that Miles actually tried to put me into rehab. 831 01:16:25,374 --> 01:16:28,087 If Miles tries to put you into rehab, 832 01:16:28,107 --> 01:16:30,347 you know you got a little problem. 833 01:16:30,812 --> 01:16:34,132 The nickname of 55 Grand was 55 Grams... 834 01:16:35,490 --> 01:16:36,597 Is that what you talked about? 835 01:16:36,901 --> 01:16:40,796 There was a lot of condiments floating through, you know... 836 01:16:41,398 --> 01:16:43,522 People were doing what they wanted to do. 837 01:16:43,722 --> 01:16:45,366 I mean, nothing in the open, but, you know... 838 01:16:45,567 --> 01:16:48,544 If you were there late enough, it was... 839 01:16:48,744 --> 01:16:52,460 Jaco and I got together there and we kept together for days, 840 01:16:52,660 --> 01:16:54,480 without paying. 841 01:16:56,171 --> 01:17:00,035 Delmar called us "The Hang Dynasty" 842 01:17:01,846 --> 01:17:04,291 I said "let's create the Hang Dynasty club. 843 01:17:04,492 --> 01:17:08,524 Which means you have to hang three days to be a member of this club. 844 01:17:09,316 --> 01:17:12,789 If you didn't hang three days straight, 845 01:17:13,643 --> 01:17:15,093 you weren't in the club". 846 01:17:15,293 --> 01:17:17,465 Everybody passed the test. 847 01:17:18,341 --> 01:17:20,062 And so we had a band ! 848 01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:30,707 At that point, that was normal. 849 01:17:30,907 --> 01:17:33,841 There wasn't anything far out for musicians. 850 01:17:34,373 --> 01:17:37,926 But Jaco's playing became almost like an extension... 851 01:17:38,458 --> 01:17:41,118 of his behaviour off stage, 852 01:17:41,318 --> 01:17:43,004 sort of John Belushi kind of man. 853 01:17:44,854 --> 01:17:48,398 people almost felt cheated if there was no: 854 01:17:48,599 --> 01:17:50,798 "Wow, Jaco really acted like Jaco tonight". 855 01:17:51,338 --> 01:17:52,680 They got their money's worth. 856 01:17:53,616 --> 01:17:56,299 Meanwhile, he's got to be a wreck the next day. 857 01:17:58,824 --> 01:18:01,291 And so I think there was some pressure. 858 01:18:03,740 --> 01:18:06,367 It didn't occur to me not to be with him. 859 01:18:06,568 --> 01:18:11,692 We were just like brothers in a way, 860 01:18:13,293 --> 01:18:15,195 We were in the same boat. 861 01:19:08,879 --> 01:19:11,041 He was a cult figure of sorts, 862 01:19:11,241 --> 01:19:12,933 what struck me, at one point, was : 863 01:19:13,013 --> 01:19:17,037 "Man, we're playing an old be-bop tune from the 40s 864 01:19:17,758 --> 01:19:20,821 for these youg people, and they're freaking out. 865 01:19:20,841 --> 01:19:22,833 Isn't this fantastic?" 866 01:19:25,946 --> 01:19:30,951 what was frustrating for me was that this thing was up and running from note one. 867 01:19:32,042 --> 01:19:34,835 We sold out wherever we played. 868 01:19:34,855 --> 01:19:38,048 All the luminary musicians came to see what was going on. 869 01:19:38,068 --> 01:19:39,880 It was working. 870 01:19:40,791 --> 01:19:42,913 It made everybody feel like a rockstar 871 01:19:42,933 --> 01:19:44,064 playing a jazz tour. 872 01:19:44,915 --> 01:19:48,999 The japanese adored him. We're talking about 20.000 seats. 873 01:19:49,930 --> 01:19:53,934 There were people who broke the bones in their thumbs 874 01:19:53,954 --> 01:19:59,029 so that they could ben the last digits of their thumbs back, like Jaco. 875 01:20:00,911 --> 01:20:03,814 I've seen unbelievable things. 876 01:20:03,834 --> 01:20:07,928 But the things I saw early were the same things I saw later, 877 01:20:07,948 --> 01:20:09,029 and that knocked me out. 878 01:20:09,890 --> 01:20:14,034 It's his ability to communicate music to everyone, 879 01:20:14,054 --> 01:20:15,956 including to the average person. 880 01:20:18,979 --> 01:20:22,953 He had tribes of people waiting for him in every city he was going to. 881 01:20:23,864 --> 01:20:26,927 Even if they didn't know anything about his facility. 882 01:20:28,008 --> 01:20:31,081 But, at the same time, he was leaving Weather Report, 883 01:20:32,042 --> 01:20:36,947 starting his own career path with his own Word of Mouth band, 884 01:20:37,067 --> 01:20:40,881 he was, essentially, leaving a family. 885 01:20:44,114 --> 01:20:50,901 Ingrid gave Jaco these magical twins that he was amazed by. 886 01:20:51,962 --> 01:20:57,047 The concept of twins was spiritual and magical to him. 887 01:20:57,958 --> 01:21:01,061 Poundering their birth was astounding to him 888 01:21:01,081 --> 01:21:06,026 but unfortunately, that was happening at a time he was unravelling 889 01:21:06,046 --> 01:21:07,898 and Ingrid... 890 01:21:09,099 --> 01:21:14,895 being so protective of the children, 891 01:21:14,915 --> 01:21:17,677 didn't want Jaco around them. 892 01:21:17,878 --> 01:21:21,051 so he didnt have much of a relationship with them. 893 01:21:23,053 --> 01:21:24,484 because, at the time, 894 01:21:24,684 --> 01:21:27,978 he was not in the place to be a responsible parent, 895 01:21:28,959 --> 01:21:31,021 and that caused him a lot of pain. 896 01:21:32,042 --> 01:21:34,975 I said : "What's happening, man? What's wrong?" 897 01:21:34,995 --> 01:21:38,138 He said : "You ever been married?" I said : "No". 898 01:21:38,158 --> 01:21:40,170 He said : "You got any kids?" I said : "No". 899 01:21:40,190 --> 01:21:42,162 "I can't tell you what's wrong, 900 01:21:42,182 --> 01:21:44,044 because you wouldn't understand it". 901 01:21:45,105 --> 01:21:48,148 I guess that was his way of letting me know that there were problems. 902 01:21:59,159 --> 01:22:02,943 Before the Japan trip, I go to the airport, 903 01:22:02,963 --> 01:22:05,175 I turn a corner and here is Jaco. 904 01:22:07,157 --> 01:22:14,094 The moment was as jarring as that moment in Taxi Driver, 905 01:22:14,945 --> 01:22:20,090 when the camera pans, and then begins to pan up, 906 01:22:20,110 --> 01:22:22,152 and you see the body of De Niro. 907 01:22:22,172 --> 01:22:26,176 You know it's De Niro, but then you see the shaved head with the mohawk. 908 01:22:27,057 --> 01:22:32,072 I had that same creepy, frightening feeling. 909 01:22:34,965 --> 01:22:37,968 And I went : "Hi, Jaco". 910 01:22:42,993 --> 01:22:46,166 He's got pieces of electrical tape on his face, 911 01:22:48,028 --> 01:22:49,109 with a crew cut. 912 01:22:50,110 --> 01:22:55,205 At some point, he changed into this blue, seminal dress 913 01:22:55,225 --> 01:22:59,039 and he was walking around the plane like he was Sun Ra, 914 01:22:59,059 --> 01:23:02,212 or one of these mystical elders. 915 01:23:05,245 --> 01:23:07,847 A lot of the musicians were amused, 916 01:23:07,908 --> 01:23:10,090 not sure what to make of it. 917 01:23:10,290 --> 01:23:13,123 Those of us who known him longer were alarmed. 918 01:23:15,255 --> 01:23:18,218 So there's this balance of the Emperor's new clothing, 919 01:23:18,238 --> 01:23:22,102 Nobody saying anything, and we're whispering... 920 01:23:22,202 --> 01:23:24,359 What do we do? 921 01:23:24,559 --> 01:23:26,857 Something's definitely wrong". 922 01:23:49,029 --> 01:23:51,131 Hello, I'm an electric bass player. 923 01:23:55,065 --> 01:23:58,098 Jaco was not doing so well at that time. 924 01:24:00,190 --> 01:24:02,282 Things were not going well. 925 01:24:02,302 --> 01:24:05,135 What's up in the future for you two? 926 01:24:06,066 --> 01:24:09,339 - Well, more records... - Champagne, and looks like beer. 927 01:24:10,060 --> 01:24:11,181 More records, I'm sure. 928 01:24:11,201 --> 01:24:12,332 What kind of records? 929 01:24:13,223 --> 01:24:17,227 We're working on a new studio album, solo album... 930 01:24:17,247 --> 01:24:21,191 We're working? It's done, bro! We've just got to mix it. 931 01:24:23,153 --> 01:24:27,347 There definitely was a feeling of uncertainty 932 01:24:28,068 --> 01:24:31,181 that never reared its ugly head 933 01:24:31,201 --> 01:24:32,362 during Word of Mouth. 934 01:24:34,154 --> 01:24:37,167 The label had zero interest in the record. 935 01:24:37,337 --> 01:24:41,231 And I didn't know what options he had. 936 01:24:41,341 --> 01:24:45,245 Do you ever see yourself tapping the commercial market? 937 01:24:45,265 --> 01:24:48,288 -We are. -I am commercial ! 938 01:24:48,308 --> 01:24:50,170 You're not commercial yet. 939 01:24:51,141 --> 01:24:55,115 Jaco's very aware that, he could have easily just gone pop, 940 01:24:55,135 --> 01:24:57,197 make some records and BAM ! 941 01:24:57,217 --> 01:25:01,171 "I'm not selling out, man. I'm not selling out" 942 01:25:04,314 --> 01:25:07,337 Well, you know, we are tapping the commercial market 943 01:25:07,357 --> 01:25:11,251 Maybe you're referring to the pop Top 40 music market. 944 01:25:11,271 --> 01:25:13,113 -Yeah. -Well, yeah, 945 01:25:13,133 --> 01:25:15,315 If they ever come around and get smart, sure. 946 01:25:15,335 --> 01:25:17,207 Like Chuck Mangione. 947 01:25:17,227 --> 01:25:19,179 -No way. -Impossible, he plays out of tune. 948 01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:20,200 Chuck Manicotti. 949 01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:22,202 I don't dig this at all. I don't, you know? 950 01:25:22,222 --> 01:25:24,250 Listen man. He's a very nice guy. 951 01:25:24,450 --> 01:25:26,226 He does way too much coke. 952 01:25:26,426 --> 01:25:28,745 And the motherfucker eats too much pasta. 953 01:25:28,858 --> 01:25:30,498 And, fuck me, he wears a hat. 954 01:25:32,322 --> 01:25:35,345 When he was in the midst of recording 'Holiday for Pans', 955 01:25:35,365 --> 01:25:41,201 Warner Brothers decided to rip up, literally, 956 01:25:41,221 --> 01:25:42,382 Jaco's contract. 957 01:25:43,253 --> 01:25:45,185 It was like a huge rejection. 958 01:25:45,205 --> 01:25:47,397 He knew that he was onto something very special 959 01:25:47,417 --> 01:25:50,310 He just continued this downward spiral. 960 01:25:52,182 --> 01:25:55,305 People didn't understand there were forces and conditions 961 01:25:55,325 --> 01:25:58,298 beyond his control that were grabbing hold 962 01:25:58,318 --> 01:26:02,372 and it was too easy to just describe it as "substances". 963 01:26:16,196 --> 01:26:18,348 Hey dad, it's Jaco. You're there? 964 01:26:19,219 --> 01:26:20,230 Hey. 965 01:26:20,250 --> 01:26:21,361 -Daddy! -Yeah. 966 01:26:22,242 --> 01:26:23,353 Who loves you? 967 01:26:24,224 --> 01:26:26,306 I don't know, I haven't heard from you. 968 01:26:26,326 --> 01:26:27,437 Where you at? 969 01:26:27,457 --> 01:26:29,219 New York City. 970 01:26:29,239 --> 01:26:30,280 Where about? 971 01:26:31,201 --> 01:26:32,462 We're right here. Jada's house. 972 01:26:32,482 --> 01:26:34,484 I called there all last week. 973 01:26:35,205 --> 01:26:38,248 Daddy, it's hard to get me. 974 01:26:38,268 --> 01:26:39,329 Nobody answered. 975 01:26:40,350 --> 01:26:41,481 Can I tell you one thing? 976 01:26:42,202 --> 01:26:43,253 What's that? 977 01:26:45,265 --> 01:26:46,386 Who loves you? 978 01:26:47,477 --> 01:26:49,369 Who loves you, kid? 979 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,492 When things happen to people, good or bad, 980 01:27:12,512 --> 01:27:17,507 it's always a convergence of many elements and components. 981 01:27:19,339 --> 01:27:24,254 it takes 4 fingers and a thumb to make it solid 982 01:27:24,274 --> 01:27:28,368 but you need to make impact or to make a stranglehold. 983 01:27:32,292 --> 01:27:34,404 He's like : "I got this video, they want me to do this video. 984 01:27:34,424 --> 01:27:37,467 I told them I want to do it with you. We're gonna do this". 985 01:27:37,487 --> 01:27:41,381 He was in bad shape, but he wanted to leave something. 986 01:27:41,401 --> 01:27:43,383 I don't know if he thought something was gonna happen to him, 987 01:27:43,403 --> 01:27:47,297 But he wanted to help other musicians 988 01:27:47,317 --> 01:27:51,351 and help the kids. That's what he wanted to do. 989 01:28:08,568 --> 01:28:10,530 -OK -What about something like that? 990 01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:12,392 That's better than what I do. 991 01:28:13,333 --> 01:28:17,397 Any advice to musicians, young and old? New and beginners? 992 01:28:20,300 --> 01:28:24,474 Keep your minds open, keep an open head about music. 993 01:28:24,584 --> 01:28:27,547 When I first came to New York, everybody wanted to play jazz. 994 01:28:27,567 --> 01:28:30,560 They didn't know about rock and roll, They didn't know about funk, 995 01:28:30,580 --> 01:28:33,533 They didn't know about nothing. All they wanted to do was jazz. 996 01:28:33,553 --> 01:28:36,386 Now, New York is cool. They play everything. 997 01:28:36,406 --> 01:28:39,429 When I grew up in Florida, everything was hip. 998 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,443 I was fortunate to be exposed and be able to play 999 01:28:43,463 --> 01:28:45,355 all kinds of music. 1000 01:28:45,375 --> 01:28:47,527 I played in a country band for a year and I had a ball. 1001 01:28:47,547 --> 01:28:49,399 I love country and western too. 1002 01:28:49,419 --> 01:28:51,491 If it's good, I dig it. Whatever it is. 1003 01:28:51,511 --> 01:28:53,383 Just keep an open mind about everything. 1004 01:28:53,403 --> 01:28:55,455 -Yeah. -That's about my only advice. 1005 01:28:55,585 --> 01:28:58,348 -Keep listening. -Beautiful. 1006 01:28:58,368 --> 01:28:59,559 Keep your ears open. 1007 01:29:03,373 --> 01:29:05,765 You got to support your music or your art with your life, 1008 01:29:05,795 --> 01:29:07,487 and how they intertwine, 1009 01:29:07,507 --> 01:29:11,571 if your life doesn't have enough stability, 1010 01:29:11,591 --> 01:29:14,153 then your art is gonna suffer. 1011 01:29:14,554 --> 01:29:17,507 you're not gonna be able to get those tomatoes to the market. 1012 01:29:17,597 --> 01:29:22,302 ...they gonna be flat tires, they gonna go on the side of the highway. 1013 01:29:22,502 --> 01:29:25,955 he was in this stage where this was going on. 1014 01:30:03,463 --> 01:30:05,525 Hi, Jack, Sorry to call so early. 1015 01:30:05,545 --> 01:30:06,666 this is Terry. 1016 01:30:06,686 --> 01:30:12,412 I just saw Jaco on the streets, he's doing some crazy things. 1017 01:30:12,432 --> 01:30:15,475 I don't want tot ell you this, but he needs help again. 1018 01:30:15,495 --> 01:30:21,501 He almost got himself killed a little while ago, I don't know what to tell you. 1019 01:30:21,651 --> 01:30:23,523 I hope you can help. 1020 01:30:28,608 --> 01:30:32,502 Between the street door and our security door, inside, 1021 01:30:32,522 --> 01:30:35,475 there was some six foot space 1022 01:30:35,495 --> 01:30:37,627 Some morning he'd be there waiting for us. 1023 01:30:37,647 --> 01:30:40,480 Obviously he'd been up from the night before 1024 01:30:40,500 --> 01:30:42,462 he knew it was a safe place. 1025 01:30:48,658 --> 01:30:52,652 He was comfortable here, because he was around musicians. 1026 01:30:54,684 --> 01:30:56,746 Say : "Hey, let me show you something on drums". 1027 01:30:57,467 --> 01:30:59,569 Or "let me show you something I'm working on on the piano. 1028 01:30:59,589 --> 01:31:00,690 Come here, check this out. 1029 01:31:00,710 --> 01:31:04,564 here's something I wrote Weather Report never recorded". 1030 01:31:08,498 --> 01:31:12,562 It would jolt you. "How? 1031 01:31:12,582 --> 01:31:16,676 How could this be for this guy who was on top of the world, 1032 01:31:16,696 --> 01:31:18,608 and reinvented the sound of this instrument 1033 01:31:18,628 --> 01:31:22,642 and left such a strong mark on music?" 1034 01:31:44,785 --> 01:31:46,697 the singer of my band, Anthony, 1035 01:31:46,717 --> 01:31:48,659 they were walking down the street in New York 1036 01:31:48,679 --> 01:31:50,721 and they saw Jaco sitting on the sidewalk. 1037 01:31:51,592 --> 01:31:56,557 And they said : "this is Jaco Pastorius, sitting on the sidewalk, drunk, 1038 01:31:56,577 --> 01:31:58,529 playing 'Louie, Louie' for change". 1039 01:32:12,663 --> 01:32:15,726 I went to an art opening in Soho. 1040 01:32:16,627 --> 01:32:19,770 When we came out, there was this little club across the street 1041 01:32:19,790 --> 01:32:22,733 with a cardboard sign, magic marker, saying : 1042 01:32:22,753 --> 01:32:24,595 "Jaco Pastorius tonight". 1043 01:32:28,609 --> 01:32:31,602 So I went in and I found him at the bar. 1044 01:32:36,707 --> 01:32:38,849 He asked me to jam with him, 1045 01:32:39,570 --> 01:32:42,813 but he trailed the cord of the microphone over the keyboard, 1046 01:32:42,833 --> 01:32:44,695 so it got in my way. 1047 01:32:45,746 --> 01:32:47,828 and I'd flip it off while I'm playing. 1048 01:32:47,848 --> 01:32:49,760 and he'd flip it back on. 1049 01:32:49,780 --> 01:32:52,633 And he was playing way outside the chord. 1050 01:32:52,653 --> 01:32:55,646 You know, it was... not good. 1051 01:32:55,666 --> 01:32:57,808 Nothing was good about it at all. 1052 01:33:01,602 --> 01:33:05,666 And he was kinda praising me too much. 1053 01:33:10,631 --> 01:33:13,744 It was a skitty behaviour. 1054 01:33:14,705 --> 01:33:16,687 And that's the last I saw him. 1055 01:33:24,895 --> 01:33:28,749 In july 1986, I commited him to Bellevue. 1056 01:33:34,645 --> 01:33:36,647 Jaco was in the hospital for seven weeks. 1057 01:33:36,667 --> 01:33:37,838 he was admitted in late july 1058 01:33:37,858 --> 01:33:39,890 and discharged in about mid september. 1059 01:33:39,910 --> 01:33:42,703 this is almost exactly 25 years ago. 1060 01:33:45,696 --> 01:33:50,641 When he came in, there was this grandiosity and this kind of oppositional behaviour 1061 01:33:50,841 --> 01:33:53,744 and he was certainly in danger of provoking somebody 1062 01:33:53,764 --> 01:33:55,746 that could be dangerous to him. 1063 01:33:57,838 --> 01:34:01,682 this sort of scaled down over weeks. 1064 01:34:01,912 --> 01:34:07,768 While he was in the unit, he became very engaged with other patients. 1065 01:34:07,788 --> 01:34:10,861 He could reach out to them in ways that others patients couldn't. 1066 01:34:10,881 --> 01:34:14,735 I recall there was a woman there, very psychotic patient, 1067 01:34:14,755 --> 01:34:20,711 who had cut herself all over her body in response to some illsuion. 1068 01:34:20,901 --> 01:34:23,754 and she was very withdrawn and very inaccessible. 1069 01:34:23,774 --> 01:34:27,928 and Jaco really reached her, made some kind of connection, 1070 01:34:27,948 --> 01:34:32,713 he made contact. Jaco had that capability. 1071 01:34:40,941 --> 01:34:43,784 His diagnosis was bipolar disorder. 1072 01:34:45,956 --> 01:34:48,859 The classical form of bipolar disorder 1073 01:34:48,879 --> 01:34:51,702 is weeks to months of depression, 1074 01:34:51,722 --> 01:34:52,983 and days to weeks of mania. 1075 01:34:53,954 --> 01:34:58,719 Jaco had what you would call either "rapid cycling", 1076 01:34:59,710 --> 01:35:00,851 where the features of depression and mania 1077 01:35:00,871 --> 01:35:02,853 alternate rapidly, 1078 01:35:02,873 --> 01:35:04,815 or mix with one another. 1079 01:35:08,919 --> 01:35:11,952 That interacted with exposure to alcohol. 1080 01:35:11,972 --> 01:35:12,993 He was not at the point 1081 01:35:13,714 --> 01:35:16,967 where he looked like just another drug using musician, 1082 01:35:16,987 --> 01:35:18,899 it was not like that. 1083 01:35:28,909 --> 01:35:31,792 Who is to say that 1084 01:35:32,733 --> 01:35:35,936 the chemical imbalances, 1085 01:35:35,956 --> 01:35:41,752 they ushered actions that could not have been taken 1086 01:35:41,942 --> 01:35:44,785 if you were living without it. 1087 01:35:49,950 --> 01:35:52,002 He was an explorer. 1088 01:35:54,775 --> 01:35:58,819 I see... an image of Jaco, like CHarlie Parker, 1089 01:35:58,839 --> 01:36:00,861 Coltrane, Miles. 1090 01:36:00,881 --> 01:36:06,937 Same thing I saw in the comic books. Superheroes! 1091 01:36:42,863 --> 01:36:44,985 Hello, collect call for Jack from Jaco. 1092 01:36:46,827 --> 01:36:48,989 Hello dad. It's Jaco. You there? 1093 01:36:53,093 --> 01:36:57,077 Alive and well in Florida. Love you. 1094 01:37:07,838 --> 01:37:12,843 Jaco returned to Florida after he was treated. 1095 01:37:13,123 --> 01:37:15,886 He was intermittently complying with the medication. 1096 01:37:15,906 --> 01:37:17,057 That is not unusual. 1097 01:37:23,033 --> 01:37:27,137 He was going through a phase that a lot of bipolar patients go through. 1098 01:37:27,958 --> 01:37:30,010 And that's where lies the ambivalence of that treatment, 1099 01:37:30,030 --> 01:37:32,052 they are struggling to accept the illness. 1100 01:37:32,072 --> 01:37:33,884 and that's what was going on 1101 01:37:33,904 --> 01:37:36,947 in the year after he was discharged from Bellevue. 1102 01:37:55,105 --> 01:37:59,009 One day, I look up and it's daddy. 1103 01:37:59,990 --> 01:38:03,113 And he doesn't have a bass... 1104 01:38:03,133 --> 01:38:05,155 I don't even think he had a shirt on. 1105 01:38:05,175 --> 01:38:07,167 And he's hang out with some fellas, 1106 01:38:08,979 --> 01:38:13,183 I assumed they were hanging out here too, to whatever degree. 1107 01:38:16,126 --> 01:38:18,138 He had an acoustic guitar, 1108 01:38:18,158 --> 01:38:21,071 He had some albums, some of his albums. 1109 01:38:21,962 --> 01:38:25,015 And I realised : "Man, he's hanging out here". 1110 01:38:26,156 --> 01:38:28,138 I mean, he could have stayed anywhere. 1111 01:38:28,158 --> 01:38:31,151 The thought of my dad, Jaco Pastorius, 1112 01:38:31,181 --> 01:38:33,934 sleeping in a park is absurd. 1113 01:38:35,095 --> 01:38:38,949 And I don't think we'll ever know exactly why. 1114 01:38:43,984 --> 01:38:47,077 He was in a constant state of motion, at all times. 1115 01:38:50,170 --> 01:38:53,193 He was like trying to grab a cloud, or a wind. 1116 01:38:56,076 --> 01:38:59,039 One day he chose to get better, 1117 01:38:59,980 --> 01:39:03,063 but that choice was taken away from him. 1118 01:39:05,986 --> 01:39:10,981 He didn't die on the streets from a blown out liver, 1119 01:39:11,001 --> 01:39:14,214 or a heart attack or anything. He was killed. 1120 01:39:16,206 --> 01:39:18,979 The song is called 'Mr. Pastorius'. 1121 01:39:18,999 --> 01:39:21,051 It's on your last album, Amandla, right? 1122 01:40:00,020 --> 01:40:03,143 I remember he came to a gig I had in Fort Lauderdale. 1123 01:40:03,163 --> 01:40:08,278 and the owner ran out and said : "I'm gonna call the cops right now!" 1124 01:40:08,298 --> 01:40:10,120 And Jaco hadn't done anything. 1125 01:40:10,140 --> 01:40:13,053 All he did was just walk into the restaurant. 1126 01:40:13,073 --> 01:40:16,026 So I told the band : 1127 01:40:16,046 --> 01:40:18,278 "Look, this is my brother. I have to take him home. 1128 01:40:18,298 --> 01:40:20,260 I can't let him go to jail". 1129 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,143 I put the sticks down, got up, got my car keys, 1130 01:40:23,163 --> 01:40:26,206 I got Jaco and I said : "Come on man, let's go". 1131 01:40:27,167 --> 01:40:30,310 So we get in my car, and I say : "OK Man, where do you live?" 1132 01:40:31,211 --> 01:40:33,293 And he says : "in the park". 1133 01:40:34,184 --> 01:40:37,047 And I said : "What? In the park?" 1134 01:40:37,067 --> 01:40:40,120 "Yes, I live in the park. Just take me to the park". 1135 01:40:40,140 --> 01:40:41,321 So we're driving in the park, 1136 01:40:42,042 --> 01:40:44,124 and he grabs my hand and starts crying. 1137 01:40:44,144 --> 01:40:46,146 and I say : "What's wrong, man?" 1138 01:40:46,336 --> 01:40:49,049 He goes : "I don't want to be here anymore". 1139 01:40:49,069 --> 01:40:51,271 And I said : "What do you mean by that, Jaco?" 1140 01:40:51,291 --> 01:40:54,054 "I don't want to be here anymore, man. I've had it". 1141 01:42:16,256 --> 01:42:19,409 That night he went to hear Carlos Santana, 1142 01:42:20,290 --> 01:42:22,402 and the incident happened. 1143 01:42:23,403 --> 01:42:28,178 I found out pretty quick because my ex-girlfriend 1144 01:42:28,198 --> 01:42:31,411 dated one of the assholes that beat him into a coma. 1145 01:42:33,173 --> 01:42:35,295 And this was pretty tough. 1146 01:42:36,356 --> 01:42:38,188 Very tough for me to hear. 1147 01:42:40,370 --> 01:42:42,432 This is very sad. 1148 01:42:42,452 --> 01:42:47,347 I remember, at the funeral, the boys. 1149 01:42:49,289 --> 01:42:51,341 Ingrid looked at me and she just walked away. 1150 01:42:51,361 --> 01:42:52,442 She couldn't take it. 1151 01:42:52,462 --> 01:42:54,214 Everybody was walking away. 1152 01:42:54,234 --> 01:42:56,436 It was the end of the funeral, man. 1153 01:42:57,377 --> 01:43:01,401 Julius and Felix, they're looking at me, and they say : 1154 01:43:01,421 --> 01:43:05,425 "Uncle Bobby, when is daddy Jaco gonna jump out of the box?" 1155 01:43:05,445 --> 01:43:12,362 I remember that it took 20 minutes talking to them to let them know 1156 01:43:12,482 --> 01:43:15,265 "Daddy Jaco is with the angels now. 1157 01:43:15,285 --> 01:43:17,217 He's not gonna jump out of the box". 1158 01:43:19,369 --> 01:43:21,461 Just thinking about what he had said, 1159 01:43:21,481 --> 01:43:24,474 and watching his life unfold after that... 1160 01:43:24,494 --> 01:43:26,496 Everything he said came to pass. 1161 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,213 Not too long afterwards, I was flying in Italy. 1162 01:43:34,474 --> 01:43:36,476 After the concert, 1163 01:43:36,496 --> 01:43:40,260 Came down the stage, met some fans. 1164 01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:41,401 I went to Stage Right, 1165 01:43:41,421 --> 01:43:44,234 where there were a stairway that led off the stage. 1166 01:43:44,254 --> 01:43:47,327 I started to go halfway down, to say hello to someone I think. 1167 01:43:47,347 --> 01:43:50,460 And this fan came up to me. Very emotional. 1168 01:43:51,441 --> 01:43:54,254 He says : "How could you do this? 1169 01:43:54,444 --> 01:43:57,297 How could all of you let this happen?" 1170 01:44:01,281 --> 01:44:03,423 I said : "We all tried to help". 1171 01:44:05,255 --> 01:44:07,287 That wasn't a good enough answer for him. 1172 01:44:51,391 --> 01:44:54,334 We are influenced by life, whether we like it or not. 1173 01:44:54,354 --> 01:44:57,567 It's not necessarily music that makes us play a certain way. 1174 01:44:57,587 --> 01:44:59,489 It's the life we live. 1175 01:44:59,509 --> 01:45:02,322 It's our experiences, it's our upbringing. 1176 01:45:02,342 --> 01:45:04,334 It's what we experienced as kids, 1177 01:45:04,354 --> 01:45:07,577 before we were even conscious of our own personality, 1178 01:45:07,597 --> 01:45:09,389 or what we are, 1179 01:45:09,409 --> 01:45:10,570 or what we want to do with life. 1180 01:45:11,461 --> 01:45:13,313 That's the stuff. 1181 01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:15,395 The torments that go on inside us, 1182 01:45:15,415 --> 01:45:17,367 that is what comes out in music. 1183 01:45:17,577 --> 01:45:19,589 Everybody gets their own burden. 1184 01:45:19,609 --> 01:45:23,373 Everyone get their own special beating in life. 1185 01:45:23,613 --> 01:45:27,377 he just took this energy and turned it into what he could. 1186 01:45:27,397 --> 01:45:29,339 and you feel it in every note. you feel it. 1187 01:45:29,359 --> 01:45:31,501 you feel his nervous system, you feel his joy, 1188 01:45:31,521 --> 01:45:33,483 you feel his neurosis, you feel his suffering. 1189 01:45:33,503 --> 01:45:34,524 You feel it all. 1190 01:45:36,506 --> 01:45:39,469 Where do you go after Jaco? 1191 01:45:39,489 --> 01:45:44,414 There's not too much soul and feeling. 1192 01:45:45,385 --> 01:45:48,398 That original stuff. 1193 01:45:48,418 --> 01:45:50,590 There's not too much you can do without. 1194 01:46:19,569 --> 01:46:20,620 Where is he at? 1195 01:46:21,491 --> 01:46:23,463 Usually right next to Charlie Parker. 1196 01:46:23,633 --> 01:46:26,386 How do you spell "Pastorius" again? 1197 01:46:26,406 --> 01:46:29,409 With a capital "P". 1198 01:46:31,411 --> 01:46:33,683 The music is just a byproduct of his life, man, 1199 01:46:34,404 --> 01:46:36,616 and you can hear his sound everyday. 1200 01:46:37,587 --> 01:46:40,560 Be it Sting from The Police, or Flea from Chili Peppers. 1201 01:46:40,580 --> 01:46:44,604 it's amazing how many people are close to his music 1202 01:46:44,624 --> 01:46:49,539 and are so appreciative of what he gave in a short amount of time. 1203 01:46:52,512 --> 01:46:56,416 It is an honor to play here in the Yankee Stadium, 1204 01:46:56,436 --> 01:46:57,627 New York City. 1205 01:46:57,647 --> 01:47:00,690 Thank you for coming here and supporting heavy music! 1206 01:47:27,577 --> 01:47:30,630 I had the good fortune to see Jaco play four times. 1207 01:47:31,521 --> 01:47:33,653 It was an amazing moment for me. 1208 01:47:33,673 --> 01:47:35,725 Jaco, to me, was Punk Rock. 1209 01:47:36,706 --> 01:47:38,508 He was fearless. 1210 01:47:38,528 --> 01:47:39,599 You can label him, 1211 01:47:39,619 --> 01:47:43,533 You can try to label him as your own and say : "Jaco was pure jazz". 1212 01:47:43,553 --> 01:47:45,745 But there are some jazz musicians that are punk rock. 1213 01:47:53,593 --> 01:47:56,626 All of us stand on Jaco's shoulders. 1214 01:47:56,646 --> 01:48:02,532 No one could have missed that section of DNA. 1215 01:48:02,762 --> 01:48:05,535 You needed Jaco to get to this point. 1216 01:48:13,653 --> 01:48:19,499 The things that I know that he has written blow my mind. 1217 01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:23,745 Somehow a part of him has influenced me in so many ways 1218 01:48:24,106 --> 01:48:27,683 especially the way I put together instrumental songs 1219 01:48:30,584 --> 01:48:34,589 Whatever the genre I can take, the genre I can take, you know 1220 01:48:35,249 --> 01:48:38,317 So, stretch it, bend it, pull it, it won't break. 1221 01:48:45,325 --> 01:48:49,433 I just remember him being amazing, I remember the backflips, 1222 01:48:49,529 --> 01:48:51,380 I remember just thinking : "this is what it's all about" 1223 01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:53,232 "this is what I aspire to" 1224 01:48:57,317 --> 01:49:01,622 He was the best bass player that ever played, nothing else like him. 1225 01:49:01,947 --> 01:49:04,043 When I'm thinking, am I missing anyone? Am I missing something? 1226 01:49:04,072 --> 01:49:05,194 Is there anything close to it, 1227 01:49:05,246 --> 01:49:07,128 other than that, on the bass? 1228 01:49:08,407 --> 01:49:09,969 Not to me, man. 102338

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.