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The 'Net of Indra';
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the metaphor of Indra's
jeweled net asks us
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to envision
a vast net that,
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at each juncture
there lies a jewel;
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each jewel reflects
all the other jewels
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in this
cosmic matrix.
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Every jewel represents
an individual life form,
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atom, cell or unit
of consciousness.
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Each jewel, in turn,
is intrinsically
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and intimately connected
to all the others.
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Thus, a change in one gem is
reflected in all the others.
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Hundreds of thousands of people
have died unnecessary deaths.
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The question is, why?
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Most of what I treat in my
office is chronic disease.
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We are living
in an environment.
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Our bodies are ill-prepared
for a lot of disease results,
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probably about half of disease
you see in the hospitals
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is due to living
in an environment
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we are not prepared for.
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But perhaps the most
startling part is that
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many of these chronic diseases
could have been prevented.
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Chronic disease
is all the ailments from
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heart disease, diabetes,
to depression,
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that are just chipping away
at our quality of life.
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Make rounds in
a modern hospital
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with me in the
medical ward sometime
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and just make a note of
each patient as you go through
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which of these patients
would actually be there
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if they had lived in
the natural environment
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compared with our
modern environment.
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These chronic diseases
seem to be moving ever
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further town
in the age bracket
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to the point where I am
seeing more-and-more children
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with diabetes and heart
disease, morbid obesity.
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Experts call it
'Diabesity.'
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Over the past decade childhood
cases of type 2 diabetes
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have increased ten-fold because
of rising rates of obesity.
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The immune systems in
modern people specifically
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in the developed rich
countries are trigger happy,
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they are doing crazy things,
attacking their own tissues
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like attacking the brain so then
you have multiple sclerosis.
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All of these are situations
where the immune system
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is doing things it
should not be doing,
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and in developing countries
it doesn't do these things.
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So something has changed in
the rich developed countries
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which is causing
our immune systems
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lose the control
mechanisms
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that normally stop them
from behaving irresponsibly.
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The medical profession is
now actually the third leading
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cause of death
in the United States.
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People didn't understand
why when we get antibiotics
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it causes many problems,
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not only that but each cell
in our body has mitochondria
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that has been
before bacteria.
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So bacteria is the fabric
of all the living systems.
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So we did so many mistake
on our gut bacteria.
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As we have less-and-less
infectious disease
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we have more-and-more
chronic disease,
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but even conditions like
multiple sclerosis
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and depression had our thought
had some microbial involvement.
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And so it may be, as we have
conquered infectious disease,
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some of the strategies
like antibiotics
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have been either eliminating
beneficial microbes
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or providing the growth
of harmful microbes
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that are contributing to these
chronic diseases in ways
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that we are just beginning
to understand.
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Most of it relates
back to our lifestyle.
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So to the foods
that we are eating,
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the highly processed foods
with lots of sugar
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and very low nutrient,
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to the fact that we experience
a huge amount of stress
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and that we are disconnected
from our communities.
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I am starting to discover
also to the fact
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that we are disconnected
from the natural world.
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We gradually killing
ourselves off.
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People have to start realizing
that we are connected,
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I mean, including the creatures
of the earth, including plants,
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the land, at some point it
will come back and bite us
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if we don't start
changing our ways.
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Actually it's starting
to bite us already.
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I love to garden
without gloves.
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My name is Dr. Daphne Miller
and I am a family doctor
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and a nutrition explorer.
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-- and, I feel like
I wear gloves enough
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in my medical
practice,
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and why should I have
to wear them in my garden
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where everything
is so wonderful
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and where there
is a kind of microbes
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that I want to be
connected to, so --
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[Aircraft Sounds]
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[Music]
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Agroecology is the
science that provides
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the basic ecological
principles for how to study,
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design and manage agrosystems
that are both productive
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and natural
resource-conservative
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and that are
culturally-sensitive,
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socially-just and
economically viable.
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We can get
behind that, right.
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Agroecology goes beyond
a one-dimensional view
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of agroecosystems.
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At the heart of the agroecology
strategy is the idea
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that an agroecosystem
should mimic the functioning
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of local ecosystems.
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But the word 'health'
has not come up once yet.
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The key agroecological
strategy in designing
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a sustainable agricultural
is to reincorporate diversity
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into the agricultural fields
and surrounding landscapes.
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How about human health?
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No, no, no
health here, okay!
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I am pleased to introduce
our next speaker,
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Ms. Daphne Miller.
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She will be talking about
diverse farming system,
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diverse diets.
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She is a family
physician, a writer,
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and associate professor in the
Department of Family Medicine
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at the University of
California, San Francisco.
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I wanted also to add this
sentence which I like myself,
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Ms. Miller approaches
medicine with idea
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that opportunities
for health
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and healing are found not
only in the medical system
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but in such unexpected
places such as home kitchens,
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school gardens, community
organization, spiritual centers,
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farmers,
and natural trades.
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Thank you.
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We are hitting a wall,
and we know that pills
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and surgeries are not making
cadent in the rates of diabetes
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and heart disease
that we are seeing.
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The most important thing
to understand is that
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there is no one answer.
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Health is something that needs
to be engaged with everyday
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throughout the day in dozens
of little choices that we make.
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The bad news is that
it's complicated.
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On my 48th birthday
I had a really bad headache.
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Ultimately
it was determined
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that I had a disorder
called Neurosarcoidosis.
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They started treating me
with prednisone, with steroids.
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I tried to watch TV,
TV was too slow,
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so I finally had to bring in
my laptop and that was the only
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thing that was, you know,
fast enough that I could feel
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because these drugs
just had my brain go --
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A 106,000 Americans
are killed every year
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from side-effects
of prescription drugs.
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This is not drug errors,
this is not illicit drugs,
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and this is actually
just compliant to drugs
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given in hospitals.
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And the steroids were great
and that the symptoms
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that I was having went away and
within maybe two weeks of going
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on these massive
dosage of steroids,
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my appetite was back
and I gained somewhere
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in the neighborhood 30
or 40 pounds in two weeks,
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because I was eating
like a teenage boy.
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What I didn't know at that
time was that prednisone
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can lead to diabetes.
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So I began a course of
medication for diabetes.
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We tend to medicalize health,
we tend to really think of it
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within the purview of what we
can do that's either a drug
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or a surgery or some kind
of chemical intervention
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to make us feel better,
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and in fact we know
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that there is many, many
other things out there
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that have everything to do
with creating this balance.
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I mean,
I am really thankful
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that Western medicine
saved his life
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because, you know, definitely
it was going downhill fast.
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But at the same
time, you know,
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prednisone caused terrible
side-effects that is --
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it's just one of
those things that --
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It was like those
old '40s and '50s movies
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where somebody saves your
life and now they own you.
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This is where I pay you off.
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The hubris of thinking
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that we could simplify
this complex system,
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put it on a pill, we should be
surprised if that ever worked,
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if a drug company
came up with a pill
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that had the
benefits of broccoli,
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I mean, they would be
making billions of dollars
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because it's
just so clear-cut.
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So, our reductionist
approach is doing very little
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in the phase of this epidemic
of chronic disease.
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Reductionism means
taking a system
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and reducing it into
its component parts
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as if the whole was
just the sum of its part
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so we can take
any single part out,
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you know, get the same
effect as a whole.
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Such processes do not
really occur in nature.
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One of the first
ones was Descartes
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which basically said you cannot
study nature in its complexity,
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you have to study
in its parts,
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and that's when the
transdisciplinary nature
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of knowledge
was divided
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into commodities
or disciplines.
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The second
influence was Darwin.
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Darwin, although he came up
with the Theory of Evolution,
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he emphasized the
survival of the fittest,
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which means competition,
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the cones that are successful
competitors make it,
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when it turns out
that in nature
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there is much more
complementarity
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and collaboration and
covariation than competition.
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The traditional
linear model,
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the pharmaceutical
company model is,
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let's identify
one probiotic,
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they would be put into this
extremely complicated system
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which is equally
complicated to our brain
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and that will
cure disease.
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In the modern system's view not
the right way of looking at it.
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We see now that we don't
live in a linear world
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that A causes B causes C.
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What in fact we live in
is a complex network.
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It's a complex system
where everything is related
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to everything else,
it's that kind of thinking,
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the science of complex systems
are adaptive complex systems
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that determine our future.
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What you need for a complex
problem is a complex solution.
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One of the things that
we have done is that
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was really important to us
was we started a garden;
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when we got the house that
was one of the first things
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that we did and started
growing our own food.
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It's kind of something
that's become more integrated
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into our lives, it tends
to drive a lot of things,
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like we look at some of the
food in the grocery store now
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and just go,
I don't want that.
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You know, I want
tomatoes from my garden.
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I started really thinking
about how I eat and what I eat
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and started
to refine that.
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I grew up outside of Buffalo
and a friend of mine
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who grew up there too she
calls it 'The Land of Meat.'
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A meal is meat with
other things around it.
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Have salad as a meal, you like
having a side dish as a meal.
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It was harder to avoid it
than it was to just take it in.
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You grow up, you
don't question it,
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when you get married
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and meat has some bad
effects on your body.
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My life then was really
very much about my work
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and eating as conveniently
as possible.
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Food is emotional and it's part
of, I don't know, who you are.
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That was the running down.
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Gotten down to
where I am about -
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around 210 or so
and that keeps me going.
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My blood sugar level has
been in the normal range now
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for actually probably
couple of years.
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Does that mean that you
don't have diabetes anymore?
250
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I no longer have
diabetes, so --
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So you are not taking any
medication for your diabetes.
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No, and before I was
taking daily medication
253
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or twice daily medication
for my diabetes.
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What we were taught
in medical school is that
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you can't reverse diabetes that
was really what we were taught,
256
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that it was kind of like a
runaway train, and once it was,
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you know, the breaks
were off, it just --
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it was never coming
back to the station,
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and you really have disproved
that and I just find it amazing,
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and you are not alone
but it's something
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that's very inspirational
for other people to know that
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that can happen.
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My life, especially
in the last ten years or so
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has been about trying
to establish routines
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where I could
be comfortable
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and focus on what's
really important to me.
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If the revolution
continues the way
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it's gone the
last five years
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I think we will have to
see some dramatic changes
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that dietary interventions may
have a much bigger of influence
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I think in medical care;
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both prevention
of diseases
273
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but also treatment
of various disorders.
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Yeah I kind of think
of it too as that's money
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that I don't have to spend
going to the hospital
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or something else later.
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It's a part of my
insurance plan.
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[Music]
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[Music]
280
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[Music]
281
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Hi! I am Daphne Miller.
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Oh hi! Nice to meet you!
283
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Thank you!
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All right! We had
an epidemic of diabetes,
285
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epidemic of
nutrition-related problems
286
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and I show up at Harvard
and there is only one M.D.
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in my nutrition program
and that was me
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and I was absolutely shocked.
289
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I had a couple of people lower
their cholesterol over 50 points
290
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in 10 days.
291
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If you can lower your
cholesterol 50 points
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in 10 days,
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why would you want
to take a statin drug
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that's known to cause
liver damage, muscle damage,
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memory loss and -- I mean,
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now there are lawsuits about
Lipitor causing diabetes.
297
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Why would you want
to take that stuff
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if you can
do it naturally?
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And by the way the side-effects
of doing it like that is, well,
300
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your blood sugar gets better,
your blood pressure gets better
301
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and you might lose
weight if you are --
302
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well, you will lose weight
if you are overweight.
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Here in the United States,
the number one killer is diet.
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So what we eat
determines our lifespan,
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our health span in terms of
both disability and mortality.
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I went from -- close to 300
pounds with a 42-inch waist
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down to about a 190
with a 34-inch waist.
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Blood pressure was probably
one of the biggest things
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that changed.
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I was diagnosed
pre-diabetic
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because both my blood
pressure numbers
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were completely
off the charts
313
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and that almost
changed immediately.
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It also changed my pallet.
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A lot of the food that's
actually available right now
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in our supermarkets or in our
restaurants didn't taste good,
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I had to go out and find
or grow the type of food
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that my body
wanted to eat.
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In less than - I would
even say 9 months,
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completely changed
how I look, how I felt.
321
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Now people who have
seen my whole life,
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it didn't recognize me, and I
was often accused of being on
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drugs because the amount of
weight that I dropped down
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and my body just
completely changed.
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The native people
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have just about the worst
health in the nation.
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If you look at
mortality statistics,
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we were unfortunately double
the rate of heart disease,
329
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double the rate of cancer,
double the rate of stroke,
330
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this is in terms of mortality
331
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for pure Hawaiians five times
the rate for diabetes.
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So I actually went back
to the Bishop Museum
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and started collecting
photographs of Hawaiians
334
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in the old days
335
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including drawings from Captain
Cook's artists back in 1778
336
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and you saw slim
Hawaiians,
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number one,
there was no sugar
338
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and they didn't have
it back in 1778,
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I mean that was
a western invention,
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their main staples taro and
poi which is made from taro,
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sweet potatoes, and yams,
little bit of breadfruit.
342
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The change in the
diet, lifestyle,
343
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eating processed food and
so much meat and so much fat
344
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has contributed to the
obesity epidemic here,
345
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and of course, all the diseases
that come along with it.
346
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I remember when I was a kid,
you could count the number
347
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of fast food places on one
hand on the whole island.
348
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Now, there's fast-food
places on every corner.
349
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We are faced with a society
that's already been brainwashed
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to eat meat three times a day,
dairy three times a day,
351
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taught that bean/meat
and chicken is health food,
352
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which it is not.
353
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We need
to educate people;
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the healthiest way
is nature's way.
355
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After all for
thousands of years,
356
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we have been eating whole grains
and vegetables and beans
357
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and animals were not fattened
up like they are today
358
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or chemicalize;
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basically, we are gradually
poisoning ourselves.
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All you have to do is look
at the obesity maps in the US,
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it's getting worse
and worse and worse.
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We are just totally
been screwed over.
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You've got this
junk-food industry
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that's spending
billions of dollars
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to get the young kids
to eat their shit.
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By the time these poor
kids are 13, 14 years old
367
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they got all kinds
of diseases, they got asthma,
368
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they got attention deficit,
they got so much going on,
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that is just
out of control,
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and it's really,
really, really sad.
371
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These remarkable studies in
which the progression of cancer
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was reversed with the
whole food, plant-based diet;
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progression of heart
disease, hypertension,
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type 2 diabetes reversed
and cases even cured.
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It's the complexity in the diet,
how those foods come together
376
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and how those foods
interact with the soil
377
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that really offers
us the real medicine.
378
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Is there anybody who is in
the health field in this room?
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Anybody working
in health at all?
380
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Wow!
381
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Okay, I really am alone!
382
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[Laughs]
383
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How many farmers
do we have here today?
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Oh, a couple of
farmers, wonderful!
385
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Well, to the
farmers in the room,
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I look at you and me
as one in the same,
387
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we are doing the
exact same work,
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we're here to keep
people healthy
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and heal our communities, and
hopefully by the end of my talk,
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you will all agree with
me that that is the case.
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[Music]
392
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I've got the kitchen
waste compost in here,
393
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and down inside
there we have worms,
394
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so the worms are eating up
the kitchen compost
395
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and we are getting
a little bit of rain now,
396
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so it's a drop
time to water it
397
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and everyday we collect --
we collected this one already
398
00:21:31,899 --> 00:21:34,118
but we get this
incredible worm juice
399
00:21:34,162 --> 00:21:36,817
and we use it for
watering our nursery
400
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and other plants
that are in need of help.
401
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,083
As far as obtaining
anything in the store,
402
00:21:42,126 --> 00:21:46,435
nothing comes close
to how wonderful this works
403
00:21:46,479 --> 00:21:49,003
at putting nutrients
into your plants.
404
00:21:49,046 --> 00:21:50,613
Look at these coconuts,
man, they are only --
405
00:21:50,657 --> 00:21:53,834
they are only four years old
and I am eating coconuts also.
406
00:21:53,877 --> 00:21:56,358
Yeah, this is
quite the site.
407
00:21:56,402 --> 00:21:58,142
It's to have a coconut tree
where you got to get down
408
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on your knees to harvest.
409
00:21:59,579 --> 00:22:02,451
Right there, there
were 16 coconut.
410
00:22:02,495 --> 00:22:04,801
Nice view. So we get to watch
the whales every winter.
411
00:22:04,845 --> 00:22:06,063
Wow!
412
00:22:06,107 --> 00:22:07,717
The whales park out
here, so all went along,
413
00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:09,545
we get to watch the
whales breaching on here.
414
00:22:09,589 --> 00:22:11,025
It's really beautiful.
415
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They call me Ginger John,
416
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that's what everybody
knows me by on the island.
417
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[Music]
418
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Not only are they producing
the food that keeps us healthy
419
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but they are protecting
the land and the soil
420
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which is absolutely critical
to our own health.
421
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[Music]
422
00:22:39,488 --> 00:22:40,446
[Dog barks]
423
00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:41,447
Daphne?
424
00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:43,100
Yeah. All right.
425
00:22:43,144 --> 00:22:44,580
Good to meet
you too! Aloha!
426
00:22:44,624 --> 00:22:45,929
This is your
property, uh-huh?
427
00:22:45,973 --> 00:22:47,453
It's all of ours.
428
00:22:47,496 --> 00:22:49,324
That's yours too.
429
00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:50,630
Okay.
430
00:22:50,673 --> 00:22:51,761
You're standing here,
life brought you here.
431
00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:53,023
Enjoy!
432
00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:54,764
You look fantastic,
so obviously it's --
433
00:22:54,808 --> 00:22:57,201
68 years old and I work
circles around as 20 year old.
434
00:22:57,245 --> 00:22:59,682
I was the vanguard
of the Hippie Movement
435
00:22:59,726 --> 00:23:02,250
and somehow I got the
message to come to Hawaii
436
00:23:02,293 --> 00:23:06,254
so I got here in 1967
ended up living on this beach,
437
00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:10,345
the Canoe Beach on Maui
for two years with no clothes
438
00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:14,654
and no money,
no blanket, nothing.
439
00:23:14,697 --> 00:23:18,745
Getting disconnected
so to speak, connected.
440
00:23:18,788 --> 00:23:20,747
I was laying on the beach
and thinking, you know,
441
00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:22,357
you are going to die,
you better go in the town
442
00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:24,185
so that you can do
something about it.
443
00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:25,969
I was sitting and
about ready to fall over
444
00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:28,015
and this old Hawaiian
lady came up to me
445
00:23:28,058 --> 00:23:30,974
and saw that I was really
ill and just embraced me,
446
00:23:31,018 --> 00:23:32,280
and asthma was drying
447
00:23:32,323 --> 00:23:33,934
and I told her I was
bleeding from my lungs,
448
00:23:33,977 --> 00:23:36,197
I couldn't eat,
I couldn't sleep,
449
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,460
and she said, well, when the
Hawaiians had lung diseases,
450
00:23:38,504 --> 00:23:40,810
they ate noni and she
took me to a noni tree
451
00:23:40,854 --> 00:23:43,465
because noni used
to grow everywhere,
452
00:23:43,509 --> 00:23:46,468
and I started eating nonis
and I haven't stopped.
453
00:23:46,512 --> 00:23:48,427
I have been eating
nonis for 50 years.
454
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:50,951
Now I am a grand-eater of noni,
I eat it every morning.
455
00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:52,387
That's amazing!
456
00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:54,868
So you were - you were
near death, it sounds like.
457
00:23:54,911 --> 00:23:57,348
I have been near death
many, many times,
458
00:23:57,392 --> 00:23:59,350
I have had just about every
disease you can think of
459
00:23:59,394 --> 00:24:01,527
and I just lay down on the
ground and go through it.
460
00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:02,919
I don't go to doctors.
461
00:24:02,963 --> 00:24:04,486
I am sure John told
you all about taro
462
00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:05,922
and how beautiful it is,
463
00:24:05,966 --> 00:24:07,968
this is the only hypoallergenic
food in the world,
464
00:24:08,011 --> 00:24:10,318
you can give this
to a baby, a day old.
465
00:24:10,361 --> 00:24:12,059
If they have a milk allergy
to their own mother's milk,
466
00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:14,278
give it to a baby and
it will sustain that.
467
00:24:14,322 --> 00:24:16,455
[Music]
468
00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:17,934
That's the stuff.
469
00:24:17,978 --> 00:24:20,023
My name is Connor Garrett,
I am from Naples, Florida.
470
00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:22,112
I am living here on
Ginger John's farm.
471
00:24:22,156 --> 00:24:25,072
I initially came here with
the intention to do so
472
00:24:25,115 --> 00:24:27,378
and then move on, go back
to what I was doing,
473
00:24:27,422 --> 00:24:31,295
but now I've become quite
involved in this lifestyle
474
00:24:31,339 --> 00:24:34,081
and I don't really plan
I am going back anytime soon.
475
00:24:34,124 --> 00:24:36,518
John is somebody who will
definitely blow your mind
476
00:24:36,562 --> 00:24:38,128
in a lot of ways.
477
00:24:38,172 --> 00:24:42,219
The tool is called the
hodad, my favorite tool.
478
00:24:42,263 --> 00:24:45,396
No, he doesn't tend to farming,
it's not like gardening,
479
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,877
it's not anything in
a hoop house
480
00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,183
where you're spraying
chemicals
481
00:24:49,226 --> 00:24:51,141
and you get to prance
around in the flowers,
482
00:24:51,185 --> 00:24:53,143
you got to rip things
out of the ground,
483
00:24:53,187 --> 00:24:55,276
beat the dirt off of them.
484
00:24:55,319 --> 00:25:05,460
[Music]
485
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:13,729
[Music]
486
00:25:13,773 --> 00:25:15,775
Here we go!
487
00:25:15,818 --> 00:25:17,516
Good to see you!
488
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:27,569
[Music]
489
00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:37,666
[Music]
490
00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:43,237
[Music]
491
00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:54,901
I am, I am glad
you could make it,
492
00:25:54,944 --> 00:25:56,772
I am glad
you could make it.
493
00:25:56,816 --> 00:25:59,079
This is all yours,
this amazing estate here?.
494
00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:00,080
Sort of!
495
00:26:00,123 --> 00:26:01,603
Sort of!
496
00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:03,736
The bank owns some of it,
and my children owns some of it,
497
00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:04,911
but this is
a family farm.
498
00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:06,347
Can we have
a tour first?
499
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:08,349
You mean, the main
thing you want to do.
500
00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:10,351
Yeah, let's have a tour
and then sit down --
501
00:26:10,394 --> 00:26:14,398
I pity the man
that says no to you.
502
00:26:14,442 --> 00:26:17,053
How many acres
do you have?
503
00:26:17,097 --> 00:26:19,186
We've got about
100 acres of soybeans.
504
00:26:19,229 --> 00:26:22,537
We just finished
this field Monday,
505
00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:25,279
now this is the one we planted
after wheat that we dried --
506
00:26:25,322 --> 00:26:26,672
Right!
507
00:26:26,715 --> 00:26:28,543
And this was the one
we just planted and the one
508
00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:31,807
that we are just finished
working on right now is,
509
00:26:31,851 --> 00:26:35,898
we call early beans
that we planted in May.
510
00:26:35,942 --> 00:26:38,161
Do you buy seeds from
Monsanto by the way?
511
00:26:38,205 --> 00:26:40,294
Monsanto Technology Card.
512
00:26:40,337 --> 00:26:42,949
My goodness!
513
00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:45,168
So the genetic modification
allowed us to use
514
00:26:45,212 --> 00:26:49,433
some simple applications of
a herbicide Roundup primarily,
515
00:26:49,477 --> 00:26:51,435
it can kill everything
but the corn,
516
00:26:51,479 --> 00:26:53,437
it can kill everything
but the soybeans,
517
00:26:53,481 --> 00:26:55,439
our cost went down
and it's easier to farm,
518
00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:57,137
and it's easier to maintain.
519
00:26:57,180 --> 00:26:58,834
We just have like a
smallest fog of chemicals
520
00:26:58,878 --> 00:27:01,271
we were trying
to pick out what to use.
521
00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:04,144
So you have to make a cocktail
mixture of what to apply
522
00:27:04,187 --> 00:27:06,450
to kill the weeds that
were chocking the crop,
523
00:27:06,494 --> 00:27:08,104
Roundup took it all.
524
00:27:08,148 --> 00:27:12,152
You can imagine that anything
that is engineered to kill off
525
00:27:12,195 --> 00:27:15,111
bacteria in the soil is going
to do the same thing in our gut,
526
00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:19,028
and pesticides and
herbicides do exactly that.
527
00:27:19,072 --> 00:27:21,727
They work the same way
as antibiotics work.
528
00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:23,337
They kill living things.
529
00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:27,471
So we are standing at the side
of the center experiment
530
00:27:27,515 --> 00:27:32,215
which is a hundred-year research
experiment looking at
531
00:27:32,259 --> 00:27:35,175
the sustainability of
different agricultural systems.
532
00:27:35,218 --> 00:27:38,178
And so there is this contrast
between managing soil
533
00:27:38,221 --> 00:27:40,833
sort of like cookbook
style, following the menu
534
00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:44,010
and you put in this and that at
this time, then you spray this.
535
00:27:44,053 --> 00:27:46,665
So it's pretty much a --
536
00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:48,014
you know a codified approach
537
00:27:48,057 --> 00:27:49,755
that you might get
from an extension,
538
00:27:49,798 --> 00:27:52,105
as opposed
to other farmers
539
00:27:52,148 --> 00:27:54,585
who actually talk
about farming the soil
540
00:27:54,629 --> 00:27:58,111
and they talk about having
a relationship with the soil.
541
00:27:58,154 --> 00:28:00,287
They talk about doing
this much for the soil
542
00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:02,289
as they are doing
for their crops.
543
00:28:02,332 --> 00:28:04,378
They may even put more
emphasis on the soil
544
00:28:04,421 --> 00:28:06,902
because they feel like
if they take care of the soil
545
00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:08,904
then the crops are
going to do fine.
546
00:28:08,948 --> 00:28:12,429
An organic farmer
grows soil, it's light;
547
00:28:12,473 --> 00:28:15,258
a chemical farmer
grows crops.
548
00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:18,087
So how do you put
nutrients back in?
549
00:28:18,131 --> 00:28:21,264
So we will buy usually
commercial fertilizers.
550
00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:24,180
It's got earthworm
in it, hey buddy!
551
00:28:24,224 --> 00:28:26,182
You are on camera.
552
00:28:26,226 --> 00:28:28,010
That's good.
553
00:28:28,054 --> 00:28:30,404
So if my crops don't
do well it's not
554
00:28:30,447 --> 00:28:32,188
because of what I am putting in,
it's because of the soil.
555
00:28:32,232 --> 00:28:34,190
So we don't really
know where it sourced.
556
00:28:34,234 --> 00:28:35,583
Okay. Does that
ever worry you
557
00:28:35,626 --> 00:28:37,454
that you are putting
all the stuff on your field
558
00:28:37,498 --> 00:28:39,543
from some foreign place?
559
00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:41,110
No, it doesn't.
560
00:28:41,154 --> 00:28:44,766
When you are locked into a
system that seems to be working,
561
00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:46,899
it's really hard
to make the change.
562
00:28:46,942 --> 00:28:50,816
The whole agribusiness system
has separated this whole,
563
00:28:50,859 --> 00:28:53,122
and I think that's part of
what the local food movement
564
00:28:53,166 --> 00:28:56,822
along was going on, how do we
make that connectivity to it.
565
00:28:56,865 --> 00:28:59,825
And I don't know how
individually to bridge that gap,
566
00:28:59,868 --> 00:29:01,696
I don't know how to do it.
567
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:03,089
I don't know
my consumer.
568
00:29:03,132 --> 00:29:05,352
I have no connection
whatsoever.
569
00:29:05,395 --> 00:29:07,833
My farming style is
to grow the food crops
570
00:29:07,876 --> 00:29:09,835
that have sustained
civilization.
571
00:29:09,878 --> 00:29:12,925
When I sit down and eat, 90% of
what I eat comes from this farm.
572
00:29:12,968 --> 00:29:14,883
I really feel like
I am cheating.
573
00:29:14,927 --> 00:29:16,493
So where do you
get your food?
574
00:29:16,537 --> 00:29:17,407
I go to the
Clover Stores.
575
00:29:17,451 --> 00:29:18,408
Really?
576
00:29:18,452 --> 00:29:19,758
Yeah.
577
00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:22,282
You go and shop in a
grocery store for food?
578
00:29:22,325 --> 00:29:24,414
Sure! Every farmer does.
579
00:29:24,458 --> 00:29:29,376
I know very few who
actually consume the food
580
00:29:29,419 --> 00:29:30,899
on their own farm.
581
00:29:30,943 --> 00:29:34,598
The average food that we eat
travels about 1,500 miles.
582
00:29:34,642 --> 00:29:36,122
And a city like Rome,
583
00:29:36,165 --> 00:29:39,212
for example, has to import
5,000 tons of food per day.
584
00:29:39,255 --> 00:29:41,867
Can you imagine their fragility
of a system like that,
585
00:29:41,910 --> 00:29:43,869
the consequences
of a system like
586
00:29:43,912 --> 00:29:45,871
that it has on transportation
energy and greenhouse gases,
587
00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:51,267
I mean, things have to change
and that's local agriculture,
588
00:29:51,311 --> 00:29:53,748
and much of our local
agriculture is founded
589
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:54,836
in traditional
agriculture.
590
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,796
To feed a person
in a developed world
591
00:29:57,839 --> 00:29:59,493
with commercial
agriculture
592
00:29:59,536 --> 00:30:02,322
we need about
12 barrels of oil
593
00:30:02,365 --> 00:30:03,889
per year per person.
594
00:30:03,932 --> 00:30:07,066
If we think about the moment
in which the world produced
595
00:30:07,109 --> 00:30:12,985
its peak of oil that was about
5 barrels per person, per year.
596
00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:17,728
There is not enough oil in the
world to sustain food production
597
00:30:17,772 --> 00:30:19,426
under the conventional model.
598
00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,994
It works because it only works
in its model part of the world.
599
00:30:22,037 --> 00:30:26,085
Most farmers don't raise food,
we don't know much about food,
600
00:30:26,128 --> 00:30:27,477
we know about product.
601
00:30:27,521 --> 00:30:29,871
I see some sadness in
your eyes when I say that,
602
00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:32,091
but I think it's a
legitimate statement
603
00:30:32,134 --> 00:30:35,442
is that we just don't have a way
to connect with that aspect.
604
00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:38,967
Organic farming receives in a
country like the Netherlands
605
00:30:39,011 --> 00:30:44,538
about 10% of the funding
for agricultural research.
606
00:30:44,581 --> 00:30:46,932
Now the Netherlands invests
in organic farming something
607
00:30:46,975 --> 00:30:49,325
like $4 million per year,
608
00:30:49,369 --> 00:30:52,676
a company like Monsanto
invests $900 million
609
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,156
per year in research,
610
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,855
and most of the governments
in the world invest
611
00:30:56,898 --> 00:30:58,857
most of the money in
conventional farming.
612
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:02,904
When I harvest a weed, I can
put it under loan with USDA,
613
00:31:02,948 --> 00:31:06,690
I can at least get three
quarters of its market value
614
00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:08,170
the day I harvest it.
615
00:31:08,214 --> 00:31:10,085
So this last sentence
of the sentence,
616
00:31:10,129 --> 00:31:12,000
we have to stay inside
of the safety net.
617
00:31:12,044 --> 00:31:13,654
What you are telling me
is that the government
618
00:31:13,697 --> 00:31:16,570
is a lot more reliable
customer for you?
619
00:31:16,613 --> 00:31:20,835
On the basic commodities
that we raise in this country,
620
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:23,055
the feed grains,
the wheat, the corn,
621
00:31:23,098 --> 00:31:26,232
and the government through
farm bills has provided a way
622
00:31:26,275 --> 00:31:30,801
to at least protect you
and have a marketing system.
623
00:31:30,845 --> 00:31:33,108
Although the gap
of yields between organic
624
00:31:33,152 --> 00:31:35,458
and conventional
is only 20%,
625
00:31:35,502 --> 00:31:38,418
the gap in investment
and research is 100%,
626
00:31:38,461 --> 00:31:42,074
and yet without research,
without funding organic farming
627
00:31:42,117 --> 00:31:45,555
is pushing and coming closer
to conventional farming.
628
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:49,255
So the results, the progress
made per dollar invested
629
00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:50,865
in research is huge.
630
00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:53,172
It's a way of life,
you live like a peasant,
631
00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:55,261
you work like a slave,
632
00:31:55,304 --> 00:31:58,917
but you eat better
than any king ever ate.
633
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,919
And the important
part about that is
634
00:32:00,962 --> 00:32:03,356
that is your
health insurance.
635
00:32:03,399 --> 00:32:06,141
I don't have a health insurance,
I don't have social security,
636
00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:07,838
I have this.
637
00:32:07,882 --> 00:32:10,624
Another cemetery on the farm
over there on the hillside
638
00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:13,061
and there's some Hentons
buried over there.
639
00:32:13,105 --> 00:32:15,368
This is one of the --
640
00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:19,459
well I figure that's my spot
about there at some point.
641
00:32:19,502 --> 00:32:21,809
I am curious to hear
what happens with you
642
00:32:21,852 --> 00:32:23,898
in the next couple
of years probably,
643
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:26,161
because I do
believe maybe up --
644
00:32:26,205 --> 00:32:27,771
Hopefully you are going
to talk to my daughter
645
00:32:27,815 --> 00:32:30,339
and she is going to have a whole
new approach on this, okay.
646
00:32:30,383 --> 00:32:33,821
This is the generational shift,
this is going to change.
647
00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:39,870
That statement about
not growing food,
648
00:32:39,914 --> 00:32:46,312
that farmers don't grow
food was unbelievable to me,
649
00:32:46,355 --> 00:32:49,054
that was amazing, I mean
I just wrote a whole book
650
00:32:49,097 --> 00:32:51,056
about farmers
being healers
651
00:32:51,099 --> 00:32:54,755
and that they had
the health of their community
652
00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:58,454
as they serve
primary concern
653
00:32:58,498 --> 00:33:02,763
and I think that
might be the case
654
00:33:02,806 --> 00:33:04,547
where a small
subset of farmers
655
00:33:04,591 --> 00:33:08,421
but from what Happy was saying
that certainly isn't the case
656
00:33:08,464 --> 00:33:10,162
for the majority
of farmers.
657
00:33:10,205 --> 00:33:16,864
I see this as the single
largest health issue
658
00:33:16,907 --> 00:33:18,909
that is facing our country.
659
00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:25,133
Can growing food
or growing products
660
00:33:25,177 --> 00:33:30,443
be something that
is net positive for us?
661
00:33:30,486 --> 00:33:33,011
Can it be healing?
662
00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:36,710
Last Sunday we told you
about a WHO report
663
00:33:36,753 --> 00:33:40,409
that listed several chemicals
as potentially cancer causing
664
00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:44,631
including glyphosate found in
the popular weed-killer Roundup.
665
00:33:44,674 --> 00:33:47,416
Now in an interview for an
upcoming French documentary,
666
00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:50,985
a Canadian scientist has been
caught in an Erin Brockovich
667
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:53,335
like moment when he
is asked to defend
668
00:33:53,379 --> 00:33:56,860
that chemical against links
to cancer rates in Argentina.
669
00:33:56,904 --> 00:33:58,427
Take a look.
670
00:33:58,471 --> 00:34:00,429
Do not believe glyphosate,
671
00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:03,345
in Argentina it's causing
increases in cancer.
672
00:34:03,389 --> 00:34:06,261
You can drink a whole quart
of it and it won't hurt you.
673
00:34:06,305 --> 00:34:08,307
Yes, do you want to drink
some, we have some here?
674
00:34:08,350 --> 00:34:10,352
I would be happy to actually,
not really, but --
675
00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:11,353
Not really?
676
00:34:11,397 --> 00:34:12,528
I know it
wouldn't hurt me.
677
00:34:12,572 --> 00:34:14,922
If you say so,
I have some glyphosate.
678
00:34:14,965 --> 00:34:16,837
No, I am not stupid.
679
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,926
Uh okay, so it's
dangerous, right?
680
00:34:18,969 --> 00:34:21,842
No, but I know people
try to commit suicide
681
00:34:21,885 --> 00:34:23,104
with it fairly regularly.
682
00:34:23,148 --> 00:34:24,932
Tell the truth,
it's dangerous.
683
00:34:24,975 --> 00:34:26,673
It's not dangerous
to humans, no, it's not.
684
00:34:26,716 --> 00:34:28,544
So, are ready to drink
one glass of glyphosate?
685
00:34:28,588 --> 00:34:30,807
No, I am not an idiot.
686
00:34:30,851 --> 00:34:33,767
Even though this may look
disgusting to most people
687
00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:38,467
because this is really
kind of dirty looking,
688
00:34:38,511 --> 00:34:41,079
I know that the microorganism
living in here
689
00:34:41,122 --> 00:34:44,082
is the most
beneficial on earth,
690
00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:48,999
and so, I am not afraid
to take a big drink of it,
691
00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:53,874
and super-probiotic,
had a little bite to it too.
692
00:34:53,917 --> 00:34:56,877
And this is essentially the
food for the microorganisms
693
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,836
when I put
them out there,
694
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,100
and this one
is much better.
695
00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:06,278
For two years I was trying
to grow taro in these fields
696
00:35:06,321 --> 00:35:09,933
and I have been growing
taro for about 40 years
697
00:35:09,977 --> 00:35:11,892
and I never had a problem.
698
00:35:11,935 --> 00:35:13,981
I couldn't get a crop
to really grow.
699
00:35:14,024 --> 00:35:15,983
I was getting
really discouraged,
700
00:35:16,026 --> 00:35:20,683
and then I heard about Master
Cho and Korean Natural Framing.
701
00:35:46,753 --> 00:35:49,321
It's kind of designed
for peasants like myself.
702
00:35:49,364 --> 00:35:51,497
And all these
different things
703
00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,673
when combine in
the right proportions
704
00:35:53,716 --> 00:35:57,720
make the microorganisms thrive
and bring them back to life.
705
00:35:57,764 --> 00:35:59,679
Microorganisms
are inside of us.
706
00:35:59,722 --> 00:36:02,551
They are on our skin,
they are in our lungs.
707
00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:07,513
They are really what connect
us to the world around us.
708
00:36:07,556 --> 00:36:09,993
Nothing was growing, there
wasn't an earthworm here
709
00:36:10,037 --> 00:36:15,477
and he had almost reintroduced
that fungal network
710
00:36:15,521 --> 00:36:19,089
into his soil here and the
results have spoken themselves.
711
00:36:19,133 --> 00:36:23,529
Indigenous microorganisms
are basically probiotics
712
00:36:23,572 --> 00:36:25,270
for agriculture.
713
00:36:25,313 --> 00:36:31,232
IMOs are made by farmers using
the materials from that land
714
00:36:31,276 --> 00:36:34,409
and then fermenting it and
putting it back into the land
715
00:36:34,453 --> 00:36:39,153
where it can help the plants and
the fungi and all the above --
716
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:42,200
soil and everything
that's there thrive.
717
00:36:49,381 --> 00:36:53,080
Nice! If you have totally
white mole like this,
718
00:36:53,123 --> 00:36:57,302
it's an excellent IMO-1
that we cultivated.
719
00:36:57,345 --> 00:37:01,262
From this stage you would
collect all this into a jar
720
00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:05,310
and add equal amount
of sugar to the rice
721
00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:09,314
and so that way
we will move it to IMO-2.
722
00:37:25,678 --> 00:37:28,637
We planted
the red lettuces,
723
00:37:28,681 --> 00:37:30,987
I was spraying them with
the Korean Natural Farming,
724
00:37:31,031 --> 00:37:32,598
and then I guess,
725
00:37:32,641 --> 00:37:35,209
when I wasn't paying attention
I forgot the one at the end.
726
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:38,256
Then I came back and
the other red lettuces
727
00:37:38,299 --> 00:37:41,650
are four times the size
of the other red lettuce
728
00:37:41,694 --> 00:37:43,652
and they were all
planted on the same day
729
00:37:43,696 --> 00:37:46,351
except for the front
half of the row
730
00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:49,615
received Korean
Natural Farming nutrients.
731
00:37:49,658 --> 00:37:54,010
Four inches deep that this
tester can get into the ground,
732
00:37:54,054 --> 00:37:56,578
so this is a
conventional practice.
733
00:37:56,622 --> 00:37:58,711
So this is six inches,
734
00:37:58,754 --> 00:38:02,018
I have about eight inches
deep in an organic plot.
735
00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:05,544
So I have scattered
IMO for last season
736
00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:09,287
before we planted
tomato in here.
737
00:38:12,594 --> 00:38:15,423
You can see that
I get to a deeper level
738
00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:17,991
in this soil compaction.
739
00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:20,254
Now we can see
how deep it gets.
740
00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:25,128
So this is 12 inches,
I have it about 14 inches.
741
00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:29,785
So from four inches in
the conventional practice,
742
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:31,744
eight inches in the organic,
743
00:38:31,787 --> 00:38:34,790
now we have 14 inches
in Korean Natural Farming.
744
00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:36,966
When you have a
commercial plant,
745
00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:39,578
you have a very
small root system
746
00:38:39,621 --> 00:38:41,623
because they
are drug-dependent
747
00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:43,625
so the roots don't
have to travel.
748
00:38:43,669 --> 00:38:45,627
There is nothing for them to
go out there for, it's dead,
749
00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:48,413
it's a dead zone and they are
just living on these chemicals
750
00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:49,544
that have been fed them.
751
00:38:49,588 --> 00:38:52,939
If you're farming
with microorganisms
752
00:38:52,982 --> 00:38:55,158
you're doing
a biological farming
753
00:38:55,202 --> 00:38:58,336
and you have a good population
of microbes in the soil,
754
00:38:58,379 --> 00:39:01,556
the root systems will grow
very far out hundreds of feet.
755
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,386
Korean Natural Farming, what
farmers are doing is recognizing
756
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:10,260
that the microbes that are there
on that farm and in that soil
757
00:39:10,304 --> 00:39:13,481
are really critical
to the lifecycle of the farm
758
00:39:13,525 --> 00:39:15,483
and to the health
of the plants,
759
00:39:15,527 --> 00:39:18,225
and to the health of the
people who eat those plants.
760
00:39:18,268 --> 00:39:20,227
I have a degree
in Computer Science
761
00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:24,927
and decided
to learn how to farm.
762
00:39:24,971 --> 00:39:27,016
With all the techniques
you can pick,
763
00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:29,454
Korean Natural Farming is
like right on with the kids
764
00:39:29,497 --> 00:39:33,153
because every single
thing you use is edible,
765
00:39:33,196 --> 00:39:35,460
and so with the kids I don't
have to worry about them
766
00:39:35,503 --> 00:39:36,939
getting poison on them
767
00:39:36,983 --> 00:39:39,551
and eating it or like getting
in dangerous situations.
768
00:39:39,594 --> 00:39:41,988
They just -- everything they
can eat if they spill it,
769
00:39:42,031 --> 00:39:44,164
it's not a problem you know,
it just goes into the ground
770
00:39:44,207 --> 00:39:45,339
and makes things better.
771
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:48,342
Now right here you
are probably looking
772
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:52,477
at 6 billion microorganisms
in this little chunk here.
773
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,609
What Ginger
John is practicing
774
00:39:54,653 --> 00:39:56,785
is basically
complexity medicine,
775
00:39:56,829 --> 00:39:58,787
you know,
or complexity farming.
776
00:39:58,831 --> 00:40:00,528
Can you see that
white on your film?
777
00:40:00,572 --> 00:40:01,877
Yeah.
778
00:40:01,921 --> 00:40:03,792
That's the microorganisms
going to work here.
779
00:40:03,836 --> 00:40:07,622
The ones with the
microorganisms were flourishing,
780
00:40:07,666 --> 00:40:10,146
they were twice
as large, very green,
781
00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:12,627
the cups are full of roots,
so right then we knew,
782
00:40:12,671 --> 00:40:15,587
wow, what is this magic?
783
00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:17,632
In here is an IMO pile here.
784
00:40:17,676 --> 00:40:22,028
The first time that I started
applying my IMO to the land
785
00:40:22,071 --> 00:40:24,073
and I am dumping it out,
786
00:40:24,117 --> 00:40:27,425
I had this incredible
feeling of sovereignty
787
00:40:27,468 --> 00:40:29,601
that I was
free in myself
788
00:40:29,644 --> 00:40:34,736
from the need of spending
hard-earned money on anything
789
00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:37,260
that was being shipped
over across the ocean
790
00:40:37,304 --> 00:40:38,348
from the mainland.
791
00:40:38,392 --> 00:40:40,263
A plant will put
out a stress signal
792
00:40:40,307 --> 00:40:42,265
that it's lacking
some kind of nutrient.
793
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:44,616
It can be like boron
or magnesium or calcium.
794
00:40:44,659 --> 00:40:47,140
The fungus that is attached
to the roots of the plant
795
00:40:47,183 --> 00:40:51,231
will sense that imbalance,
it can actually send a signal
796
00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:54,843
to an area that's rich and
it will bring that to the plant.
797
00:40:54,887 --> 00:40:56,758
Some of them live
in the rhizosphere,
798
00:40:56,802 --> 00:40:58,760
in the root
of plants.
799
00:40:58,804 --> 00:41:02,198
Root of plants is extremely
complex environment
800
00:41:02,242 --> 00:41:05,593
because there are many,
many organisms living there.
801
00:41:05,637 --> 00:41:08,727
Some of them can operate,
some of them compete,
802
00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:11,207
so they have to develop
in order to survive
803
00:41:11,251 --> 00:41:15,211
extremely sophisticated
social intelligence.
804
00:41:15,255 --> 00:41:17,779
Very much like human
in social intelligence,
805
00:41:17,823 --> 00:41:19,085
just more advanced.
806
00:41:19,128 --> 00:41:22,349
So it gave us an idea
what are the features
807
00:41:22,392 --> 00:41:24,699
that characterize
social intelligence.
808
00:41:24,743 --> 00:41:26,701
Then I found that
our own bacteria,
809
00:41:26,745 --> 00:41:29,095
the bacteria that
I discovered fall in this list
810
00:41:29,138 --> 00:41:31,576
under a deviation
above the average.
811
00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:33,403
So they are like Einstein.
812
00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:36,972
They have special circuits
to process the information
813
00:41:37,016 --> 00:41:40,933
and even engage in decision
making, looking at the desert,
814
00:41:40,976 --> 00:41:44,371
the social bacteria
like enormous soil
815
00:41:44,414 --> 00:41:48,157
on the integrity of else
because all these bushes
816
00:41:48,201 --> 00:41:51,421
that you see here are
connected underneath,
817
00:41:51,465 --> 00:41:56,557
so all these things that you see
around has its one big natural.
818
00:41:56,601 --> 00:41:59,517
It's super fun, it's almost --
like I am way too scientific,
819
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,738
at first I was like, no, that's
a heavy stuff, no, it's real,
820
00:42:03,782 --> 00:42:05,784
it happens, and it's
part of healthy soil,
821
00:42:05,827 --> 00:42:08,090
and you will never see it
in commercial agriculture.
822
00:42:08,134 --> 00:42:10,571
One of the things I have been
studying is Soil Biology
823
00:42:10,615 --> 00:42:13,139
with a 400 power microscope
824
00:42:13,182 --> 00:42:16,185
and with that I am able
to see the beneficial fungus
825
00:42:16,229 --> 00:42:19,885
and bacteria, and very quickly
quantitatively decide
826
00:42:19,928 --> 00:42:21,582
if I'm doing it
right or not.
827
00:42:21,626 --> 00:42:24,585
All throughout this sample of
the beneficial microorganisms
828
00:42:24,629 --> 00:42:26,195
I am finding nice fungus
829
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,111
and I am finding much
more of biodiversity.
830
00:42:29,155 --> 00:42:32,071
They are the ones who
are harvesting nutrients
831
00:42:32,114 --> 00:42:35,814
from the soil and passing them
on to the roots of the plants,
832
00:42:35,857 --> 00:42:38,599
we are then passing
them on to us.
833
00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:40,601
Scientist has now
discovered important clues
834
00:42:40,645 --> 00:42:43,691
about the role of
so-called Good Bacteria.
835
00:42:43,735 --> 00:42:46,128
A new study in the journal
'Nature' finds that people
836
00:42:46,172 --> 00:42:49,218
without certain microbes
are more likely to be obese
837
00:42:49,262 --> 00:42:51,743
and to have diabetes or other
serious health problems.
838
00:42:51,786 --> 00:42:54,093
The fascinating thing about
the human microbiome
839
00:42:54,136 --> 00:42:57,879
is that we now realize there
is an entire organ inside of us
840
00:42:57,923 --> 00:43:00,229
that until about
five or ten years ago
841
00:43:00,273 --> 00:43:01,666
nobody even thought about
842
00:43:01,709 --> 00:43:03,668
and all the medical
theories about health
843
00:43:03,711 --> 00:43:06,279
and disease have been
made without that organ.
844
00:43:06,322 --> 00:43:08,803
Its massive cells weighs
about the same as your brain
845
00:43:08,847 --> 00:43:12,024
but it has more genes,
more cells,
846
00:43:12,067 --> 00:43:14,417
arguably more connections
and more complexity,
847
00:43:14,461 --> 00:43:17,029
and replacing physiologically
world-defined roles,
848
00:43:17,072 --> 00:43:19,118
we are just beginning
to understand
849
00:43:19,161 --> 00:43:20,162
what all
those roles are?
850
00:43:20,206 --> 00:43:22,251
It's not an insubstantial organ
851
00:43:22,295 --> 00:43:25,777
because it has composed
of 100 trillion cells,
852
00:43:25,820 --> 00:43:27,256
these are ten
times more cells
853
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:30,477
than an entire repertoire
of human cells.
854
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,697
There is so much excitement
about it because it turns out
855
00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:35,917
that most about genes are not
human genes but microbial genes.
856
00:43:35,961 --> 00:43:37,092
There is something
going on inside of us
857
00:43:37,136 --> 00:43:39,138
that is very
exciting, mysterious,
858
00:43:39,181 --> 00:43:42,010
and people are now
shifting their attitude
859
00:43:42,054 --> 00:43:44,665
towards understanding this,
implicating the microbiome
860
00:43:44,709 --> 00:43:46,798
in virtually every
function of the body.
861
00:43:46,841 --> 00:43:47,973
They are doing
all kinds of things.
862
00:43:48,016 --> 00:43:49,888
We have no idea what
they were involved
863
00:43:49,931 --> 00:43:51,280
with until very recently,
864
00:43:51,324 --> 00:43:53,543
everything from affecting
how we process our diet
865
00:43:53,587 --> 00:43:57,069
to how we respond to different
drugs even to things like
866
00:43:57,112 --> 00:43:59,201
how we resist different
kinds of diseases.
867
00:43:59,245 --> 00:44:01,073
One of the more intriguing
things about the microbiome
868
00:44:01,116 --> 00:44:04,380
is its possible role
in human obesity.
869
00:44:04,424 --> 00:44:07,296
Millions of microbes that live
in the guts of slim people
870
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:09,777
could be turned into
potential fat fighters
871
00:44:09,821 --> 00:44:11,649
to help the nation's
obesity epidemic
872
00:44:11,692 --> 00:44:13,172
according
to a new study.
873
00:44:13,215 --> 00:44:17,176
They have taken stool material
from lean and obese twins
874
00:44:17,219 --> 00:44:21,006
so they are twin humans,
and if you take the stool
875
00:44:21,049 --> 00:44:23,530
from the obese twin
and give it to a mouse,
876
00:44:23,573 --> 00:44:25,227
that mouse will become fat,
877
00:44:25,271 --> 00:44:28,883
and if you take the
stool from a lean twin
878
00:44:28,927 --> 00:44:30,406
and give it to a different
mouse, that mouse stays thin.
879
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:32,408
What's really important about
that is that the two mice
880
00:44:32,452 --> 00:44:34,454
they eat the same,
they exercise the same.
881
00:44:34,497 --> 00:44:37,283
So the only factor that was
different was the microbiome
882
00:44:37,326 --> 00:44:38,806
that they receive.
883
00:44:38,850 --> 00:44:41,983
They are not just sitting
there as inactive bystanders,
884
00:44:42,027 --> 00:44:45,770
they produce many chemicals
that are very similar
885
00:44:45,813 --> 00:44:48,207
to the neurotransmitters
that are brain users,
886
00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:49,904
they talk to
our immune cells,
887
00:44:49,948 --> 00:44:52,602
they talk to various
cells within our gut.
888
00:44:52,646 --> 00:44:57,782
The reason that has truly
caught the imagination of people
889
00:44:57,825 --> 00:45:01,611
is this idea that we are
host to all these creatures
890
00:45:01,655 --> 00:45:04,353
and those internal bacteria
we are discovering
891
00:45:04,397 --> 00:45:09,141
or maybe as important as our
own DNA in our own-selves
892
00:45:09,184 --> 00:45:13,798
when it comes to determining
our mood, how we process food,
893
00:45:13,841 --> 00:45:15,364
how our immune
system works.
894
00:45:15,408 --> 00:45:28,726
[Music]
895
00:45:28,769 --> 00:45:30,728
When I was a kid
I was a huge germophobe.
896
00:45:30,771 --> 00:45:32,904
One of the things that
we learned is, you know,
897
00:45:32,947 --> 00:45:37,125
most of them aren't germs,
most of them aren't bad.
898
00:45:37,169 --> 00:45:39,867
So if you eat a little dirt
it's not going to hurt,
899
00:45:39,911 --> 00:45:42,652
we are, you know, introducing
diversity to ourselves
900
00:45:42,696 --> 00:45:45,525
and that diversity especially
as children is so important
901
00:45:45,568 --> 00:45:48,354
for helping our immune
system develop properly.
902
00:45:48,397 --> 00:45:51,009
So now I'm not so worried
about touching door handles
903
00:45:51,052 --> 00:45:54,664
or getting
my hands dirty,
904
00:45:54,708 --> 00:45:57,145
because I know that I'm just
increasing the diversity
905
00:45:57,189 --> 00:45:59,539
of my microbes, that's
pretty good for my health.
906
00:45:59,582 --> 00:46:02,324
Having a dog is one of the
best evidence-based things
907
00:46:02,368 --> 00:46:04,936
that you can do in terms
of reducing the rates
908
00:46:04,979 --> 00:46:06,676
of allergies later on.
909
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:11,594
There is much our inheritance as
the genes in our chromosomes are
910
00:46:11,638 --> 00:46:14,336
and yet much of the way we live
in our days we seem to be trying
911
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:17,949
to stop transmission of
mother's microbes to the baby.
912
00:46:17,992 --> 00:46:20,429
We need to transmit the
microbiota to the baby.
913
00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:22,649
Everyone assumes that
breast milk is sterile,
914
00:46:22,692 --> 00:46:26,392
but not only is it not sterile
there is a biological mechanism
915
00:46:26,435 --> 00:46:28,089
to ensure that it is not,
916
00:46:28,133 --> 00:46:30,309
and there are organisms
being picked up from the guts,
917
00:46:30,352 --> 00:46:33,486
transported in the blood
and put into breast milk.
918
00:46:33,529 --> 00:46:35,705
One has to guess that
those are the organisms
919
00:46:35,749 --> 00:46:37,969
that is quite difficult
to get from the maternal gut
920
00:46:38,012 --> 00:46:40,101
into the baby's
gut in other ways,
921
00:46:40,145 --> 00:46:42,712
and mother's milk
contains a succession
922
00:46:42,756 --> 00:46:45,672
of interesting polysaccharides
produce the different stages
923
00:46:45,715 --> 00:46:48,849
during lactation which
act as a growth factor
924
00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:51,896
for the organisms that need to
be developing in the baby's gut
925
00:46:51,939 --> 00:46:54,986
at each stage after birth.
926
00:46:55,029 --> 00:46:56,726
So we do seem
to be trying to block
927
00:46:56,770 --> 00:46:58,163
this essential
transmission
928
00:46:58,206 --> 00:46:59,904
of the microbiota
in the next generation.
929
00:46:59,947 --> 00:47:01,340
We come out
the regular way,
930
00:47:01,383 --> 00:47:03,342
as you pass through the
birth canal you are coated
931
00:47:03,385 --> 00:47:06,388
with particular set of
microbes from your mother
932
00:47:06,432 --> 00:47:09,130
whereas if you are delivered
by C-section instead,
933
00:47:09,174 --> 00:47:11,219
you miss out on that
inoculation and essentially
934
00:47:11,263 --> 00:47:13,787
what you pick up is good
microbes from other people
935
00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:17,138
or possibly from dust
flushing around in the air.
936
00:47:17,182 --> 00:47:19,837
One of these things are
limiting the transmission
937
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,666
of the microbiota which is part
of the family's heritage,
938
00:47:23,710 --> 00:47:25,668
part of the genetics
of the family.
939
00:47:25,712 --> 00:47:27,279
The reason why this
is important is because
940
00:47:27,322 --> 00:47:28,933
if you are delivered
by C-section
941
00:47:28,976 --> 00:47:31,370
you have higher rates
of a whole lot of diseases
942
00:47:31,413 --> 00:47:35,113
with immune complications
including asthma, allergies,
943
00:47:35,156 --> 00:47:37,463
atopic disease,
even obesity.
944
00:47:37,506 --> 00:47:39,769
They really determine
who we are.
945
00:47:39,813 --> 00:47:43,686
The bushes you see around is
a colony of many microorganisms.
946
00:47:43,730 --> 00:47:47,865
We have also the colony
of any microorganisms.
947
00:47:50,824 --> 00:47:53,348
The art was part
of the science
948
00:47:53,392 --> 00:47:55,350
and the science
is part of the art.
949
00:47:55,394 --> 00:47:59,180
The coloring started not
really just to make art,
950
00:47:59,224 --> 00:48:02,314
but for us to capture
different features
951
00:48:02,357 --> 00:48:05,273
in different motives
in the pattern,
952
00:48:05,317 --> 00:48:08,798
because it seems like many
secrets are hidden there,
953
00:48:08,842 --> 00:48:12,846
so each time we do new
experiment we find new patterns
954
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:15,936
and I keep like
a child, wow!
955
00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:19,766
Complexity of the pattern
reflects the fact
956
00:48:19,809 --> 00:48:21,768
that you have
distribution of task,
957
00:48:21,811 --> 00:48:24,379
you have these dots
on the colony that you see.
958
00:48:24,423 --> 00:48:26,599
There are tens
of thousands,
959
00:48:26,642 --> 00:48:29,254
hundreds of thousands of
bacteria that connect together,
960
00:48:29,297 --> 00:48:31,952
they hold hands
and they dance together,
961
00:48:31,996 --> 00:48:34,955
they circle around, and they
pave the way to the colony
962
00:48:34,999 --> 00:48:36,609
to move on hard surfaces.
963
00:48:36,652 --> 00:48:40,569
When you have a complex pattern
when the environment changes
964
00:48:40,613 --> 00:48:42,571
and in the soil
the environment changes
965
00:48:42,615 --> 00:48:45,270
they can change the shape,
change the mix,
966
00:48:45,313 --> 00:48:48,447
make up of the colony and
adapt to the new conditions.
967
00:48:48,490 --> 00:48:54,018
This is mother nature, it's
the microorganisms in the soil
968
00:48:54,061 --> 00:48:59,284
and that's what makes all
of the globe one big organism.
969
00:48:59,327 --> 00:49:01,286
Restoring this
and rejuvenating
970
00:49:01,329 --> 00:49:04,985
back to growing your own
beneficial microorganisms
971
00:49:05,029 --> 00:49:08,597
and reinoculating them
into the environment
972
00:49:08,641 --> 00:49:12,775
is really the only way to turn
the page into heal our forest,
973
00:49:12,819 --> 00:49:16,562
to heal our ocean and the
systems that keep us alive.
974
00:49:16,605 --> 00:49:18,956
On an ordinary
day out in a --
975
00:49:18,999 --> 00:49:21,393
out walking in
the park or something
976
00:49:21,436 --> 00:49:25,397
there might be maybe a 100,000
organisms per cubic meter,
977
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,747
but if you are out there
with your brush-cutter
978
00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:30,924
on a summer's day
or if you're in a cowshed,
979
00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:33,057
you're up to hundreds
of millions,
980
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:35,494
and so you are taking an
enormous number of organisms
981
00:49:35,537 --> 00:49:36,799
from the natural
environment.
982
00:49:36,843 --> 00:49:39,454
Our bodies
are not islands,
983
00:49:39,498 --> 00:49:42,022
we're very, very
porous creatures
984
00:49:42,066 --> 00:49:45,243
who are constantly
exchanging information
985
00:49:45,286 --> 00:49:48,550
and exchanging DNA with
the environment around us,
986
00:49:48,594 --> 00:49:52,250
and as we go on this
adventure to discover
987
00:49:52,293 --> 00:49:55,688
what makes us healthy and
what keeps us in balance
988
00:49:55,731 --> 00:49:57,733
that has to be part
of the equation,
989
00:49:57,777 --> 00:50:00,606
it's sort of these
microscopic influences
990
00:50:00,649 --> 00:50:03,913
that have a huge amount
to do with our well-being.
991
00:50:03,957 --> 00:50:06,220
So there we are beginning
to have real evidence,
992
00:50:06,264 --> 00:50:10,050
real hard evidence, the exposure
to the green environment
993
00:50:10,094 --> 00:50:12,052
is doing things
to our immune systems
994
00:50:12,096 --> 00:50:15,012
which is relevant to our
immune system's function,
995
00:50:15,055 --> 00:50:17,057
which is therefore
relevant to human health.
996
00:50:17,101 --> 00:50:19,886
The problem is we don't
live in either a natural
997
00:50:19,929 --> 00:50:21,453
or an urban
environment anymore.
998
00:50:21,496 --> 00:50:22,497
We live indoors.
999
00:50:22,541 --> 00:50:24,499
To think that
we have evolved
1000
00:50:24,543 --> 00:50:26,197
with a contact
with nature
1001
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,068
for tens
of millennium,
1002
00:50:28,112 --> 00:50:30,679
and to think that
moving ourselves
1003
00:50:30,723 --> 00:50:32,986
to a profoundly
official environment
1004
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:34,988
have no consequences.
1005
00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:36,990
I think it would be willfully
naive to believe that.
1006
00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:41,212
As of 2008 more people live in
cities than in the countryside,
1007
00:50:41,255 --> 00:50:42,561
all around the world.
1008
00:50:42,604 --> 00:50:45,651
That's the first time
in human history.
1009
00:50:45,694 --> 00:50:49,437
It raises big questions
about the future of our cities.
1010
00:50:49,481 --> 00:50:54,094
It raises huge questions about
the future of the human race.
1011
00:50:54,138 --> 00:50:56,923
That means one or two things;
either the human species
1012
00:50:56,966 --> 00:51:00,361
will continue to lose whatever
connection the nature still has,
1013
00:51:00,405 --> 00:51:02,885
or it means beginning
of a new kind of city.
1014
00:51:02,929 --> 00:51:05,366
If you're interested in trees
and how they benefit people
1015
00:51:05,410 --> 00:51:08,195
and ultimately you
realize the trees
1016
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,241
that give the greatest
benefit are in cities,
1017
00:51:10,284 --> 00:51:11,894
they are near the people,
1018
00:51:11,938 --> 00:51:15,072
the paradox of an urban society,
we get most of our interaction
1019
00:51:15,115 --> 00:51:17,074
with the natural environment,
in an urban environment.
1020
00:51:17,117 --> 00:51:19,554
'The Atlantic' did
an interesting piece
1021
00:51:19,598 --> 00:51:20,860
about this research
1022
00:51:20,903 --> 00:51:23,384
and they had a somewhat
provocative title,
1023
00:51:23,428 --> 00:51:26,083
it's 'When Trees
Die, People Die'.
1024
00:51:26,126 --> 00:51:28,563
Where there are trees, with
the nicest trees in urban areas
1025
00:51:28,607 --> 00:51:31,044
there are also the people who
tend to be whiter, wealthier,
1026
00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:33,046
they are educated,
they are more privileged,
1027
00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:34,787
they are going to people
who are going to tend
1028
00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:36,136
to have health
outcomes anyway.
1029
00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:38,051
I am trying to disentangle
that relationship,
1030
00:51:38,095 --> 00:51:40,053
it can be really --
it can be tricky.
1031
00:51:40,097 --> 00:51:41,707
The cold weather
nothing compared to
1032
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:44,275
what the Emerald
Ash Borer can do.
1033
00:51:44,318 --> 00:51:46,799
This tiny bug is eating
its way through trees
1034
00:51:46,842 --> 00:51:50,019
and destroying landscapes
all across Western New York.
1035
00:51:50,063 --> 00:51:52,370
Let's see what happens when the
Emerald Ash Borer spreads out
1036
00:51:52,413 --> 00:51:54,981
from Detroit and see if there
are health consequences.
1037
00:51:55,024 --> 00:51:57,201
I looked at two
causes of death,
1038
00:51:57,244 --> 00:52:00,421
cardiovascular disease and then
lower, a respiratory disease.
1039
00:52:00,465 --> 00:52:04,643
We did see increased levels
of these two types of diseases
1040
00:52:04,686 --> 00:52:06,993
in counties that were infested
with Emerald Ash Borer.
1041
00:52:07,036 --> 00:52:09,126
There was a bigger impact
in wealthier counties.
1042
00:52:09,169 --> 00:52:11,040
If trees are good for you
1043
00:52:11,084 --> 00:52:13,042
and we know that those
wealthier counties
1044
00:52:13,086 --> 00:52:14,696
are going to have
more of them,
1045
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:17,525
then killing those trees should
have a bigger health impact
1046
00:52:17,569 --> 00:52:19,136
and that isn't what we saw.
1047
00:52:19,179 --> 00:52:22,878
People who are at the bottom
end of the socioeconomic scale
1048
00:52:22,922 --> 00:52:27,100
and are not close to green space
are about twice as likely to die
1049
00:52:27,144 --> 00:52:30,059
in that five-year period
as they with people
1050
00:52:30,103 --> 00:52:31,800
at the top of the
socioeconomic scale,
1051
00:52:31,844 --> 00:52:34,151
as they get closer
to green space.
1052
00:52:34,194 --> 00:52:36,588
So this difference between
the top and the bottom
1053
00:52:36,631 --> 00:52:38,981
of the socioeconomic scale
starts to disappear.
1054
00:52:39,025 --> 00:52:41,027
Most people who talk in
the environmental movement,
1055
00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:43,508
talk about, you know,
the morality of it.
1056
00:52:43,551 --> 00:52:44,987
We have to protect nature
1057
00:52:45,031 --> 00:52:47,773
because it's the
right thing to do.
1058
00:52:47,816 --> 00:52:49,644
Well, I am an economist.
1059
00:52:49,688 --> 00:52:52,908
I study selfishness, and
what I understand is that,
1060
00:52:52,952 --> 00:52:55,389
you know, scolding people
do things ain't very effective.
1061
00:52:55,433 --> 00:52:57,739
The type of stuff I do in other
people is showing that looking
1062
00:52:57,783 --> 00:53:00,612
after a natural environment
is profoundly self-interest
1063
00:53:00,655 --> 00:53:02,918
and when you appeal
to people's self-interest
1064
00:53:02,962 --> 00:53:04,224
then that's
a different matter.
1065
00:53:04,268 --> 00:53:06,748
You know, if you can show
people this is really,
1066
00:53:06,792 --> 00:53:09,055
really in your best
interest to do that
1067
00:53:09,098 --> 00:53:11,492
then I think we are
going to see some change.
1068
00:53:11,536 --> 00:53:15,235
Nature deficit disorder is
not a known medical diagnosis.
1069
00:53:15,279 --> 00:53:19,108
Basically what it is, is a
metaphor to describe the harm
1070
00:53:19,152 --> 00:53:21,198
that comes
to the human species
1071
00:53:21,241 --> 00:53:24,026
when it doesn't have much
connection to the natural world.
1072
00:53:24,070 --> 00:53:26,028
And the way to show
that is not by saying,
1073
00:53:26,072 --> 00:53:28,379
this kid has nature
deficit disorder
1074
00:53:28,422 --> 00:53:31,208
and this kid exhibits
these symptoms.
1075
00:53:31,251 --> 00:53:34,036
You could do that but
what I would rather do
1076
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,517
is look at all this
positive research
1077
00:53:36,561 --> 00:53:38,215
that's come out
and then ask,
1078
00:53:38,258 --> 00:53:41,000
if that's connected
to the natural world,
1079
00:53:41,043 --> 00:53:43,698
what happens when you take
the natural world away?
1080
00:53:43,742 --> 00:53:45,700
Shouldn't every
kid, and in fact,
1081
00:53:45,744 --> 00:53:49,661
I think every adult have
a right to the benefits
1082
00:53:49,704 --> 00:53:51,924
of being in
the natural world.
1083
00:53:51,967 --> 00:53:54,709
Really what it gets down to the
small choices about, you know,
1084
00:53:54,753 --> 00:53:56,885
we plant a tree here,
we preserve a part here,
1085
00:53:56,929 --> 00:53:58,931
that's what's going to really
make the day-to-day difference
1086
00:53:58,974 --> 00:54:01,063
in people's lives,
I believe.
1087
00:54:01,107 --> 00:54:04,980
I was in a hotel room
one day in San Francisco
1088
00:54:05,024 --> 00:54:07,461
and I picked up
one of those magazines
1089
00:54:07,505 --> 00:54:10,290
that you wonder where they
come from in the hotel rooms
1090
00:54:10,334 --> 00:54:12,771
and I was flipping through
it and I looked at the back page
1091
00:54:12,814 --> 00:54:14,773
and there was this
black-and-white photograph
1092
00:54:14,816 --> 00:54:16,296
of a little boy
on a beach.
1093
00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:18,298
He is running along and his
eyes are filled with life,
1094
00:54:18,342 --> 00:54:20,300
and the story next
to this photograph
1095
00:54:20,344 --> 00:54:22,520
said this little
boy had a problem.
1096
00:54:22,563 --> 00:54:24,522
He had the wiggles,
he couldn't sit still.
1097
00:54:24,565 --> 00:54:26,045
He was disruptive
in class.
1098
00:54:26,088 --> 00:54:27,786
The school finally
kicked him out.
1099
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:31,006
The parents were
upset of course.
1100
00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:32,965
But they had been
very observant,
1101
00:54:33,008 --> 00:54:36,621
they noticed how a little
bit of time in nature
1102
00:54:36,664 --> 00:54:40,755
helped their little boy
calm himself and focus.
1103
00:54:40,799 --> 00:54:43,062
So for the next 10 years
they took their little boy
1104
00:54:43,105 --> 00:54:45,847
all over the great
western wilderness areas.
1105
00:54:45,891 --> 00:54:47,240
Now the kid
turned out okay.
1106
00:54:47,284 --> 00:54:49,416
The photograph
was taken in 1906,
1107
00:54:49,460 --> 00:54:51,810
the little boy's
name was Ansel Adams.
1108
00:54:51,853 --> 00:54:53,333
So here's a question.
1109
00:54:53,377 --> 00:54:55,379
What would have happened
if they had taken little Ansel
1110
00:54:55,422 --> 00:54:57,468
and put him in a chair
in front of a desk,
1111
00:54:57,511 --> 00:54:59,948
in front of a computer,
telling him to sit there,
1112
00:54:59,992 --> 00:55:02,734
take chess all day,
canceled recess,
1113
00:55:02,777 --> 00:55:06,259
which more-and-more schools
are doing, cancel field trips,
1114
00:55:06,303 --> 00:55:08,653
lengthen the school day,
lengthen the school,
1115
00:55:08,696 --> 00:55:10,350
and then given
him Ritalin.
1116
00:55:10,394 --> 00:55:13,222
Would we have the gifts of
nature that Ansel gave us?
1117
00:55:13,266 --> 00:55:15,050
Would we have the
political support
1118
00:55:15,094 --> 00:55:19,054
such as it is for the national
parks without his photographs?
1119
00:55:19,098 --> 00:55:22,667
How many little Ansels and
Anselets are out there right now
1120
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:25,365
who can give us great
gifts in the future
1121
00:55:25,409 --> 00:55:27,541
if we give them the
great gift of nature now?
1122
00:55:27,585 --> 00:55:31,719
Kind of been slowly
peeling back the story
1123
00:55:31,763 --> 00:55:34,679
of what is
ailing Hawaiians.
1124
00:55:34,722 --> 00:55:38,552
Finally this afternoon we
started to get at a glimmer
1125
00:55:38,596 --> 00:55:43,862
of amazing hope for how
to heal by seeing these kids,
1126
00:55:43,905 --> 00:55:46,865
but reconnecting
to that land
1127
00:55:46,908 --> 00:55:48,867
and really understanding
how to grow things
1128
00:55:48,910 --> 00:55:52,653
and how to nourish themselves
and how to nourish the soil,
1129
00:55:52,697 --> 00:55:54,960
their soil can make
themselves healthy.
1130
00:55:55,003 --> 00:55:58,659
Working with the kids has been
so powerful because showing them
1131
00:55:58,703 --> 00:56:00,879
that the earth is
alive at a young age,
1132
00:56:00,922 --> 00:56:03,098
really will impact
how they grow up
1133
00:56:03,142 --> 00:56:05,231
and are they going to be
going and buying Roundup
1134
00:56:05,274 --> 00:56:07,407
or are they going to be
going out to their soil
1135
00:56:07,451 --> 00:56:10,410
and realizing it's
alive and really feeling
1136
00:56:10,454 --> 00:56:13,021
that heart space connection
to caring for the land.
1137
00:56:13,065 --> 00:56:17,417
The kids here they need
economic opportunity
1138
00:56:17,461 --> 00:56:19,767
and through this
agricultural practices
1139
00:56:19,811 --> 00:56:21,726
where it's affordable to do,
1140
00:56:21,769 --> 00:56:23,771
where it's
environmentally sound,
1141
00:56:23,815 --> 00:56:28,167
I believe it will give everyone
in this area a great opportunity
1142
00:56:28,210 --> 00:56:31,518
to have a great life and
to provide for the family
1143
00:56:31,562 --> 00:56:33,346
and to be happy everyday.
1144
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:36,784
Until you started doing this
natural farming and realizing
1145
00:56:36,828 --> 00:56:41,049
that the earth is alive it
changes your whole perspective.
1146
00:56:41,093 --> 00:56:43,312
It just made me so
much more conscientious
1147
00:56:43,356 --> 00:56:44,749
in every part
of my life,
1148
00:56:44,792 --> 00:56:46,925
brought so much more respect
to the whole systems,
1149
00:56:46,968 --> 00:56:49,014
they are naturally
there providing
1150
00:56:49,057 --> 00:56:50,668
such abundance already.
1151
00:56:50,711 --> 00:57:04,464
[Music]
1152
00:57:04,508 --> 00:57:06,814
So I went to
the Marche region,
1153
00:57:06,858 --> 00:57:10,035
it's like a fantasy
land for agroecologists.
1154
00:57:10,078 --> 00:57:12,907
They have been farming
in these little plots
1155
00:57:12,951 --> 00:57:16,824
for hundreds of years
ever since the Benedictines
1156
00:57:16,868 --> 00:57:18,826
who were like
the original hippies,
1157
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:23,396
who went there and started
to create these little farms
1158
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,834
with their monasteries and
the soil there is very healthy
1159
00:57:26,878 --> 00:57:28,140
and it's very
beautiful.
1160
00:57:28,183 --> 00:57:29,837
92!
1161
00:57:29,881 --> 00:57:33,624
92! You
are 92 years old!
1162
00:57:33,667 --> 00:57:42,546
[Singing/Foreign Language]
1163
00:57:42,589 --> 00:57:45,679
Oh! Bravo, bravo!
1164
00:57:57,474 --> 00:58:06,961
[Foreign Language]
1165
00:59:00,537 --> 00:59:03,627
It's also known for
being the place in Europe
1166
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:05,846
that has the
most sanitarians,
1167
00:59:05,890 --> 00:59:08,849
people who are over
a hundred years old.
1168
01:00:58,002 --> 01:01:01,788
Oh, oh, fragile, I am so sorry,
I don't want to hurt the beans
1169
01:01:06,401 --> 01:01:07,707
Oh, I am sorry!
1170
01:01:12,930 --> 01:01:14,845
Hello!
I am so honored.
1171
01:01:42,524 --> 01:01:45,310
She's moving faster
than everybody else.
1172
01:01:48,313 --> 01:01:50,489
Yes, yes.
1173
01:01:54,754 --> 01:01:55,842
How old?Okay. This is how --
1174
01:01:55,886 --> 01:01:56,930
96 now.
1175
01:01:56,974 --> 01:02:00,760
-- you live to be 96.
Right here!
1176
01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:12,293
She climbs those trees?
1177
01:02:12,337 --> 01:02:13,555
Yes! Yes!
1178
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:15,557
No! She climbs
that tree to get fruit?
1179
01:02:15,601 --> 01:02:16,776
Yes, for
taking the fruit.
1180
01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:25,393
Now it's finished,
the fruit.
1181
01:02:25,437 --> 01:02:26,873
Oh, they are all down
so she threw --
1182
01:02:26,917 --> 01:02:29,441
She threw down,
she threw down.
1183
01:02:29,484 --> 01:02:30,485
No more peach.
1184
01:02:31,791 --> 01:02:33,532
Okay, we don't have
to worry about her.
1185
01:03:37,422 --> 01:03:40,860
What I want to talk to you right
now is about what we have lost.
1186
01:03:40,904 --> 01:03:43,384
When we move away
from those little fields
1187
01:03:43,428 --> 01:03:44,995
in the Marche region
1188
01:03:45,038 --> 01:03:46,997
what are the health
things that we have lost,
1189
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:51,088
because these are all parts of
argo-ecology, crop diversity,
1190
01:03:51,131 --> 01:03:53,525
perennials and native seeds,
traditional technologies,
1191
01:03:53,568 --> 01:03:58,835
soil vitality, community, but
what they really are is health.
1192
01:04:08,235 --> 01:04:10,455
You have a tumor
in your pancreas?
1193
01:04:10,498 --> 01:04:11,499
Yes.
1194
01:04:11,543 --> 01:04:13,110
How long ago was that?
1195
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:18,245
You had a pancreatic
tumor nine years ago?
1196
01:04:28,647 --> 01:04:29,996
Are they studying you
1197
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,390
or are they from
the scientific standpoint,
1198
01:04:32,433 --> 01:04:36,002
you are a miracle.
1199
01:05:04,988 --> 01:05:06,728
Can you give us a
rundown of this?
1200
01:05:06,772 --> 01:05:08,208
Just give me
one second, okay?
1201
01:05:08,252 --> 01:05:09,906
Yeah, yeah!
1202
01:05:15,128 --> 01:05:17,870
Padre Giovanni
just shared stuff
1203
01:05:17,914 --> 01:05:20,873
that was incredibly
personal to him
1204
01:05:20,917 --> 01:05:23,267
and that I didn't get
the sense that he talks
1205
01:05:23,310 --> 01:05:28,011
about all the time and
it affected me very deeply.
1206
01:05:28,054 --> 01:05:30,535
He just got
so much of the crux,
1207
01:05:30,578 --> 01:05:34,756
what I am trying to understand
about those connections
1208
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,672
between our bodies
and the earth
1209
01:05:37,716 --> 01:05:39,979
and he is just living
this every day.
1210
01:05:40,023 --> 01:05:46,246
For him it's his awareness,
it's his existence,
1211
01:05:46,290 --> 01:05:51,295
and that story about him
getting pancreatic cancer
1212
01:05:51,338 --> 01:05:53,645
nine years ago,
I mean, the life expectancy
1213
01:05:53,688 --> 01:05:58,389
from what sounds like he had
metastatic pancreatic cancer,
1214
01:05:58,432 --> 01:06:00,086
he had in his gut,
1215
01:06:00,130 --> 01:06:06,092
and everything is three to six
months and it's really amazing.
1216
01:06:06,136 --> 01:06:08,312
He said he did all
the medical treatments
1217
01:06:08,355 --> 01:06:13,056
but there was this
other side of what he did,
1218
01:06:13,099 --> 01:06:17,364
which possibly was the reason
that he's still with us
1219
01:06:17,408 --> 01:06:19,976
nine years later.
1220
01:06:23,283 --> 01:06:26,634
People talk about healing
the earth; the earth heals us.
1221
01:06:26,678 --> 01:06:28,680
Look around us
and see the beauty,
1222
01:06:28,723 --> 01:06:32,249
I mean, every sunrise and
every sunset, every rain shower
1223
01:06:32,292 --> 01:06:36,166
and every breeze and every
cloud is so magnificent.
1224
01:06:36,209 --> 01:06:39,734
I mean, what more beauty
could there have been.
1225
01:06:39,778 --> 01:06:42,650
Even when we are living
in a city on the 30th floor
1226
01:06:42,694 --> 01:06:47,786
of a concrete high-rise, we have
to start to think of ourselves
1227
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:50,571
as part of an
agro-ecological cycle.
1228
01:06:50,615 --> 01:06:53,835
Only without mentality
are we going to actually
1229
01:06:53,879 --> 01:06:56,360
leave something for our
children and our grandchildren.
1230
01:06:56,403 --> 01:06:58,014
Thank you!
1231
01:06:58,057 --> 01:07:01,626
[Applause]
1232
01:07:01,669 --> 01:07:04,063
So increasingly instead
of saying "sustainable,"
1233
01:07:04,107 --> 01:07:06,413
I say, "nature rich."
1234
01:07:06,457 --> 01:07:08,285
What does a nature
rich city look like?
1235
01:07:08,328 --> 01:07:11,723
A nature rich future,
a nature rich yard,
1236
01:07:11,766 --> 01:07:14,204
built with native
species that bring back
1237
01:07:14,247 --> 01:07:16,815
butterfly migration routes
and bird migration routes.
1238
01:07:16,858 --> 01:07:18,904
What does that
future look like?
1239
01:07:18,947 --> 01:07:19,731
When you begin
to use terminology
1240
01:07:19,774 --> 01:07:21,385
like a 'nature rich city,'
1241
01:07:21,428 --> 01:07:24,344
people can see that in their
minds, and I can tell you,
1242
01:07:24,388 --> 01:07:26,346
particularly young
people resonate to that.
1243
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:29,306
They want to go there,
they want to create that.
1244
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:32,178
We humans are so arrogant
that we think the hypothesis
1245
01:07:32,222 --> 01:07:35,051
that we come up with,
actually have anything to do
1246
01:07:35,094 --> 01:07:37,966
with the complexity
of the world around us.
1247
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:41,318
So 'ai' in Hawaiian
means to eat,
1248
01:07:41,361 --> 01:07:43,494
means food,
1249
01:07:43,537 --> 01:07:47,150
means reproduction,
1250
01:07:47,193 --> 01:07:51,458
and then 'na' is
in reference to the land.
1251
01:07:51,502 --> 01:07:54,548
So it's the land
that feeds us.
1252
01:07:54,592 --> 01:07:56,898
You are the servant
to the land,
1253
01:07:56,942 --> 01:07:59,466
so that land doesn't
only mean land,
1254
01:07:59,510 --> 01:08:00,859
it also means the ocean.
1255
01:08:00,902 --> 01:08:01,860
Right?
1256
01:08:01,903 --> 01:08:03,253
Everything in nature,
1257
01:08:03,296 --> 01:08:06,343
you are the servant
to nature in order to live.
1258
01:08:06,386 --> 01:08:07,561
There's a movement
1259
01:08:07,605 --> 01:08:10,129
that is sometimes called
the new agrarians.
1260
01:08:10,173 --> 01:08:14,177
These are often young people who
are dedicated to organic farming
1261
01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:15,917
near a city or in a city.
1262
01:08:15,961 --> 01:08:17,658
They are changing
their neighborhoods;
1263
01:08:17,702 --> 01:08:19,834
they are really dedicated
1264
01:08:19,878 --> 01:08:22,794
to creating a different
kind of food distribution.
1265
01:08:22,837 --> 01:08:26,493
The attitude that we are now
developing is a much more humble
1266
01:08:26,537 --> 01:08:29,627
and modest attitude
where we tend to say
1267
01:08:29,670 --> 01:08:31,585
we really don't
understand nature
1268
01:08:31,629 --> 01:08:34,153
but we will listen to it
in an unbiased way
1269
01:08:34,197 --> 01:08:37,678
and will let the wisdom
and the intelligence of nature
1270
01:08:37,722 --> 01:08:40,725
tell us how it's working
and how it's operating.
1271
01:08:40,768 --> 01:08:42,727
So we are really
starting to think about
1272
01:08:42,770 --> 01:08:44,859
how all these parts
interconnect,
1273
01:08:44,903 --> 01:08:46,861
not just to keep
the land healthy
1274
01:08:46,905 --> 01:08:48,863
and not just to
keep the air healthy
1275
01:08:48,907 --> 01:08:50,517
but also to
keep us healthy.
1276
01:08:50,561 --> 01:08:52,650
The big challenge
of life in general
1277
01:08:52,693 --> 01:08:54,434
is trying to find balance
1278
01:08:54,478 --> 01:08:57,176
and once you find it,
trying to maintain balance
1279
01:08:57,220 --> 01:09:01,528
it's not a goal that you
achieve and then that's it.
1280
01:09:01,572 --> 01:09:04,096
The balance is always
going to shift again
1281
01:09:04,140 --> 01:09:06,185
and then you'll have
to regain the balance.
1282
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:08,187
It's something that's
constantly adapting,
1283
01:09:08,231 --> 01:09:12,191
constantly moving with
thousands of different variables
1284
01:09:12,235 --> 01:09:14,628
and that in fact is balance.
1285
01:09:14,672 --> 01:09:18,023
Almost everything is organized
in interconnected systems,
1286
01:09:18,066 --> 01:09:21,157
so simplest systems
to the most complex ones.
1287
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,508
There is a natural law
that when systems organize
1288
01:09:24,551 --> 01:09:27,206
there will be one just
like the law of gravity.
1289
01:09:27,250 --> 01:09:29,295
You can say there
is a high intelligence
1290
01:09:29,339 --> 01:09:32,342
that used to design
to create the universe
1291
01:09:32,385 --> 01:09:35,780
by very beautiful simple
design that is scalable
1292
01:09:35,823 --> 01:09:37,912
that can be used in tiny
little networks of insects,
1293
01:09:37,956 --> 01:09:40,741
so ants talking
to each other.
1294
01:09:40,785 --> 01:09:43,048
There's two ways of explaining
it as an engineer
1295
01:09:43,091 --> 01:09:44,702
or as a spiritual person,
1296
01:09:44,745 --> 01:09:47,922
and I think at the moment
they are both equally valid.
1297
01:09:54,015 --> 01:09:55,800
Awareness of
interconnectedness
1298
01:09:55,843 --> 01:09:58,019
is increasing
in leaps and bounds
1299
01:09:58,063 --> 01:10:01,458
as the new age of
globalization accelerates.
1300
01:10:01,501 --> 01:10:05,418
Our civilization has evolved
emphasizing the separation
1301
01:10:05,462 --> 01:10:09,640
into parts for too long
on this realization
1302
01:10:09,683 --> 01:10:15,385
of unbroken wholeness
our future may depend.
1303
01:10:15,428 --> 01:10:19,998
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