All language subtitles for Extraordinary： The Stan Romanek Story (Full Documentary) [1].en.vtt

[Stan] Okay.

Oh, my God.
I'm shaking like a leaf.

I hope I can get this,
I hope this is working.

Please be working.
Please be working.

Okay, I gotta calm down.

Mark, wait until
you see this.

You're gonna have
a freaking canary.

I... Okay.

All right.

I am on my way
up to the mountains

to take some videotape

to show Lisa.

And it is December 27th,
I believe.

And I was--
I believe this is Jewel.
And...

Oh, my God,
I'm shaking.

Saw something out of
the corner of my eye,

uh, just skirting power lines.

It was tilted.

And straightened out and
shot straight up into the air.

And okay...

Let me get a better view
of where I am. Okay.

Here's the power lines.

And if you look...

Oh, where is it?
Where did it go?

Son of a bitch.
I hope I didn't lose it.

Okay.

[plane droning]

Pull over.

[sombre instrumental music]

I actually noticed it

as I was turning in to

come up to Daniel's Park.

Just kind of caught out of
the corner of my eye

and didn't really pay
much attention to it.

But I really got a good
glimpse of it

as I was coming up the...

There's a steep hill
just right
before you get up to

the top of Daniel's Park.

And I could see the...

the light emanating from
whatever this thing was

on the ground,
blinking on the ground.

It lit up the whole area.

There it is.

There's the thing that's
been following me.

Oh, shit, what is that?

[women speaking]

[eerie orchestral music]

♪

[Stan] I can't tell you
what this is. I can't.

I have to convince myself
of what I keep seeing.

Thank God there's lots of
other people that see it, too.

[thrilling orchestral music]

♪

♪

Day before yesterday,
when I had the sighting
over at the...

Over my work...
My boss first saw it.

That night, um,
something must
have happened,

'cause I woke up
in the morning

and I had some

indentations in my back.

I didn't notice this, actually,
my sister noticed it.

but I noticed that I had

sores around my wrist,

like I had been roped,
or had been handcuffed
or something.

And this was...

It's healed amazingly fast.

[eerie instrumental music]

[static]

[soft instrumental music]

[Stan]
What's today's date?

[man] Eighth, I think.

[Stan] October 8th?

Yeah, it's the eighth.

[Stan] All right.

♪

[Stan] I don't know.
Personally,
I think it's a little fishy

that something happened

and just the next day they
come and replace
all the sidings.

♪

[Stan]
I woke up at three o'clock.

The swelling was gone
The bruising was gone.

Everything was gone.

I could run up and down stairs.
It's the creepiest thing.

[doctor speaking]

[both laugh]

[doctor speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[doctor speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[doctor]
It just disappeared?

[Lisa] Just gone.

[doctor] You went to bed?

[Stan] Yes, I did.

I went to bed and it's gone.
I looked everywhere for it.

[doctor] Where do you live?

We'll have to go
and investigate.

[doctor speaking]

[raspy breathing]

[strange chittering]

[woman's voice]

[spectral music]

[Lisa]
Are you seeing something?

[Stan] Yes, I am.
I don't know what it is.

[Stan gasps]

♪

♪

[distorted noise]

[gentle orchestral music]

♪

[Stan] Okay,
today is May 5th, 2005.

We have problems

with our speakers
buzzing all the time.

And I wanted to let you

see in here for yourself.

[speakers whining]

Okay.

Once again.

It's off!

There's no power.

I'd like to know how the hell
they do that.

[music continues]

[sombre music]

Holy --- Oh, my God.
There it is.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Holy ---
What the hell is that thing?

♪

What I got here...

[Lisa] It is wet.

[indistinct]

♪

There it is.

I got it, I got it,
I got it, I got it.

That's the same fricking orb.

I should go out there and
see if I can get it better.

It is the craziest thing.

[gasps] There it is.

There it is. There it is.

I'm gonna zoom in.
I'm gonna zoom in.

That little bastard.

Oh, man.
What is that?

[exclaims]

[ominous orchestral music]

I'm gonna go outside.

And look who...

What the heck's going on?

Oh!

[gasps] Oh, my God!

What the --- is that?

Holy shit!

Oh, my God.
What's it doing?

Holy shit.

Oh, man!

Where the ---
did it go?

Oh, my God.
I can't believe it.

Where'd it go? Where'd it go?
Where'd it go?

Oh, my God.

[panting]

It's here.

I can't see it anymore.
Where'd it go?

I can't believe that.

I can't believe
what I just freaking saw.

Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.

That's amazing.

[high pitched ringing]

Oh, my God. What...

[automated voice]
...message delete.

Press seven, reply.

Press eight, save.

Press nine, more options.

Press zero.

[long beep]

Please save,
urgent message.

[reading]

[Stan] Okay, Lisa.
Hit the button.

[automated voice]
One old message.

[woman reading]

[garbled voices]

[Stan] Okay.

[Stan speaking]

[woman speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[woman speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[woman speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[woman speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[dial tone]

[serene music]

[man speaking]

[woman speaking]

[man speaking]

[woman speaking]

[high pitched beeping]

[woman speaking]

[Heidi speaking]

[woman speaking]

[beeping continues]

[man speaking]

[woman speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[beeping continues]

[woman speaking]

[Heidi speaking]

[woman speaking]

[Heidi speaking]

[woman speaking]

[Heidi speaking]

[line ringing]

[woman speaking]

[Heidi speaking]

[woman speaking]

[sombre music]

[phone ringing]

[Victoria speaking]

[woman speaking]

[Victoria speaking]

[woman speaking]

[signal whining]

[sombre orchestral music]

[girl speaking]

[woman] Hello?

♪

[girl speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[woman 1 speaking]

[woman 2 speaking]

[woman 1 speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[woman 1 speaking]

[Stan speaking]

[woman 1 speaking]

[Stan] Hello?

[melancholy music]

One thing that I think
strikes a lot of people,

and it certainly did me,
when I met Stan,

is he's just a normal guy.

He's almost like
a barometer.

And you know,

when things around him change,
it really affects him.

My first thought was that
he was that
he was highly sensitive.

Highly aware.

What I would think of
as the artistic personality.

Answered questions quickly,

appropriately.

I was impressed.

He seemed like a normal guy.

Average person.

Nothing unique.

They're a normal family.

I mean,
I saw their family life.

They all seemed very honest,
very sincere,

and down to earth.

He wears socks,
he wears shirts,
he wears shorts.

You know, it's...

It's not like
an abductee is

somebody who wears
a tinfoil hat.

They, you know,
have Moon Boots.

You know, he's very normal.

But he has abnormal things
happening to him,

around him,

but more for him.

You know, it's pushing him to

do something very important,
not only for himself,

but in a way, for humanity.

Well, I grew up
in a military family.

And, um...

you know, we moved around
quite a bit.

Not as much as most,
but, um...

I had the added
discomfort of

suffering from
severe dyslexia.

And in those days they didn't
know much about my learning
disability.

They don't even think it's
a learning disability anymore.

But, um, I was always
put in classes with...

you know, special ed classes
with the retarded kids.

I remember I had a teacher
who'd make fun of me
in front of the class,

and then grab me and
throw me in the closet,

lock me in the closet,

and said, "This is where
we put retards."

And yeah, it was terrifying.

It was horrible.
It was a horrible experience.

And I had gang members
around me all the time

because of the neighborhood
we lived in.

I had The Crips on one side,
The Bloods on the other.

And they were constantly
fighting amongst themselves.

And I was always...

Knife stab wounds and
stuff like that.

I was always caught in
the crossfires.

And they used to pick
on me a lot, because,

number one,
I was the only white kid.

Number two,
I had learning disability.

And I had to learn to fight
because of it.

Everybody beat me up
and then I started
beating everybody else up,

including the principal
of the high school I went to.

So, it wasn't good.
I was kind of a punk.

And just because I was...

I was kind of angry
at my life.

You know, because of all
the constant violence

and all the, you know,
having to deal with

everything that I had
to deal with.

I was frustrated.

Um, I calmed down somewhat,

and just kind of
found my own way.

[interviewer] When you look
at that past,

did it make you
a better person?

How did it help you?

I honestly think...

certain people are chosen
for certain things.

And I had to go through
what I went through

so I could understand
the human condition.

So the role that
I'm playing now,

without that understanding,
I couldn't do, I couldn't...

You know,
the message that I have,
I couldn't...

give the message out
correctly, I believe.

You know,
when I was growing up,

my opinion of UFOs was...

I thought people
were crazy

if they believed in that stuff.

You know, I just
didn't believe it.

There was no reason to...

I didn't even pay
attention to it.

I was in my own little world,
my own little reality bubble.

And that's the way
it was.

I was taught that
there was nothing out there

other than us.

God made us and that's it.

And so, when this
big event happened,

it switched everything around.

I first...

I mean, it literally took
me a good two years

to come to terms with
what had happened.

And stuff continued to happen
through that time.

And...

what makes it so different is

when the stuff happened,
there were other people around.

I wasn't by myself, like
a lot of these that
you hear about.

Most of the stuff that
happens with me,

even now, only happens
with a lot of people around.

So I...

You know, it took a lot
to shake my tree,

but when it shook,
it shook violently.

And it changed everything.

My first, uh, official

sighting happened
December 27, 2000.

I'd met my wife online.

She lived in Nebraska,
I lived in Colorado.

I wanted her to come visit me,
so I thought,

you know, a good way to do it,
I was gonna videotape
the surrounding scenery

and the skyline of Denver,

and send her a little
care package

with flowers and chocolates.
Stuff like that.

I decided to go the back way
up to the mountains.

And there were cars pulled
off to the side of the road.

Must have been 20-30
cars pulled off the side
of the road.

And all these people had
gotten out

and they were staring
at something above the

power lines that were
off to my left,

or I should say,
off to the South.

And as I was driving up,
I'm looking.

I'm trying to see what
they were looking at.

And it looked like
some kind of weird

silver hot air balloon.

And I'm thinking,

"That thing's gonna crash
into the damn power lines."

And as I got closer,
it's like,

"Well, isn't that the strangest
hot air balloon ever?"

I got my video camera started,

trying to videotape this thing.

As soon as I rolled down
my window, this thing

acted like
it noticed me somehow.

And it was actually
tilted forward,

and it was moving along
the power lines.

And it reorientated itself

and literally shot to about
1000 foot.

Before that, it was
maybe 100 foot

off the ground, just right
above the power lines.

And again.
30 feet diameter.
This thing wasn't small.

You know, I was fighting
within myself.

You know, it was this,
"am I really seeing this?"

And if I am really seeing this,

it has to be some
kind of military thing.

But how can the military
have anything like this?

You know, are they really
that much more advanced?

And blah, blah, blah, blah.

And then I get a hold of Lisa,
you know.

I call her

and I explain to her.

I was upset.

He called saying,
"You're not gonna believe this.

I don't know what
this is, but...

turn on your web camera."

I took the camcorder
and I put it on the screen

and I put the camcorder
up to the web camera
so she could see it.

I was very excited.

And he was convinced
he was insane.

And I'm like,
"This is so cool."

She believed in this stuff
and I didn't.

So she kind of
helped me calm down.

I mean,
e was just so excited...

but scared, you know.
It was just

that little boy in him
where it's like,

"You're not gonna
believe this," and yet

it's like,
"I don't believe this.

This is too weird.

This is too scary.
This is...

But this is really cool
if this is what it is,"

you know, kind of
a drama with him.

It took a lot...

a lot to convince me

that anything like that
was even remotely real.

Two o'clock in the morning.

Maybe 2:30.

And they must have been
knocking for a while,

because I'm
a heavy sleeper.

But they knocked long enough
that it woke me up.

And I thought...
First thing I thought,

maybe my friend ran out of gas,
he had to walk back.

Maybe it was the neighbor,
they were drunk.

I wasn't sure.

Got up to answer the door,

And I noticed as I start
walking down the hall,

my sister had already
answered the door.

And I looked past
my sister,

and there were three
people standing outside.

The first thing that
popped into my head is,

"Oh, my God,
they're here to rob us.

They're gonna rob us."

And I'm yelling at my sister

"Don't let 'em in, because
they're gonna rob us."

And she's, as I get closer,
I realize that she's...

Eyes are kind of...
Just like the open mouth...

wide open and she's
staring at the ceiling,

like she's still asleep
or something.

And I'm yelling at her
and she's not moving.

And then when
I get really close,

I realize there's a female
and two males.

And I gotta tell you,
I was really scared.

I mean, I was really scared,
because...

I had just come to
the realization

that UFOs are probably real.

But I didn't really
think about

the fact that something had
to be driving these UFOs.

And that they might
not be human.

And then now I'm being
confronted with this reality

that there's something
at my door

that is inhuman.

And let me tell you,
it was really
quite disturbing to me.

And, um...

right as I got to
that realization,

the female stepped forward,

and for whatever reason,

I could hear myself
screaming in my head,

but I couldn't...
It wasn't coming out.

And she grabbed my wrist.

A thought popped
into my head.

"You're okay,
it's gonna be okay."

And the thought was
not my thought.

I didn't put that thought
in there, it just appeared.

And let me tell you,

it must have
freaked me out enough

that I somehow

snapped out of whatever trance
they had me in.

And there was a male
on either side of me,

and by the time we got
outside to the balcony,

I grabbed one of the males

and I was gonna literally
throw him off the balcony.

And I felt the light tap,

like somebody was tapping
the back of my head,

and I woke up
somewhere else.

I don't know.

I mean, it's really bright.

[woman] Mm-hmm.

Like, really bright.

[woman]
Where is the brightness
coming from?

All around. Really bright.

I'm kind of stuck to a wall.

I think it's a wall.

I can't tell.

What makes you think
you're stuck to a wall?

I can't move my arms.

I can move my head,
I can move my body
but it's like...

I'm sucked.

[woman] Mm-hmm.

I'm glued to the wall.

You know, you go
to amusement parks
and you have those

centrifugal force rides
that spin around,

and you're stuck...

That's what it felt like
to me.

But it was
incredibly intense.

Something around my wrist.

I'm trying to get free,
I can't get free.

[woman] And is it... around
your left wrist?

Um...

Yeah, it seems to be
on my wrist.

But I don't think that's what
holding me down.

[woman] Mm-hmm.

It looks like
it's connected to something,

but it's not...

holding me down.

I could move my hands,

I could kind of move
my hand and move my...

my feet a little bit,

but I could not get free
of this wall.

And when I looked,

it looked like it had

quarter sized copper pieces

about, they were spaced
maybe a foot apart.

All over the wall,
just peppered the whole wall.

And I had these
copper bracelets on,

my ankles and on my wrists.

And they had these
tiny filaments.

Almost like
hair like filaments

that were going to the wall.

And if I wanted to,
I could have snapped them,

but for some reason

I was stuck,
so I couldn't do anything.

I couldn't move.

They're turning me over,
they're like turning me around.

And I can't seem to
move very much.

And they're
doing something to me.

And they turned me around

and they started doing
something to
my back that hurt,

really stung really bad.

Like they were cutting me
or something.

They're sticking it
really hard in my back.

[woman] How can you tell
how hard it's going in?

It hurts.

[woman] So you can feel it.

Yeah, but...

It's weird.

She puts her arm around me
and then

I relax a little bit.

And I felt another tap
on the back of my head

and I woke up
in the middle of the room

on some kind of platform,

with the female standing
right there.

And she looked at me,
tilted her head,

and suddenly,
an explosion of thought

literally filled my head.

It was so intense,

it knocked me over.

And I almost
fell off the table.

And when I came
out of this shock,

she stepped back, she quit
doing whatever it was

that she was doing.
She stepped back

as if to say,
"Okay, you poor,

stupid little
insignificant thing.

We're gonna try this
your way."

Image after image,
thought after thought.

Visualization
after visualization

just filled my head.

It was then that I realized
that whatever this thing was,

it was way more
advanced than me.

[man] He has that experience,
he calls you up.

What is that
phone conversation?

The phone call was basically,

"I had the weirdest dream."

He said that...

it doesn't make sense
because I have...

have all the hairs
all of my wrists.

And I have these
sores on my back.

I was trying to be

the analytical one,
you know.

Like, there has to be
a reason for it.

It can't be that aliens came
and abducted you.

And he's like,
"I know it was a dream.

It was a dream.

Aliens aren't real."

And then he called me back.

'Cause he's like,
"I'm gonna go."

And he called me back
and he goes,

"It wasn't a dream.
I know it wasn't a dream."

I fell apart.
I started crying and shaking,

and freaking out.

Oh, my God.
Because it made it real.

It made this whole thing real.

This really happened to me.

You know, when Deborah

took me through
the regressions,

I started reliving
all the pain.

I started vividly remembering
everything.

Every nuance,
every sound,

every painful experience,

everything that happened.

The most profound thing
that happened to me

was the part that, um...

I started writing down these
symbols that I had
stuck in my head.

She asked me,
"So do you remember?"

I said, "I have these
symbols in my head.

I have these
weird things in my head.

And she goes,
"Can you write them down?"

She gave me a big
pad of paper...

[clears throat]

and I think a marker.

And I just start...

I remember the symbols
really clearly.

[Deborah]
Can you describe them?

Oh, God. I could
write them down for you.

These are the images
that I got in my head.

My first abduction experience

really was about

I think seeing who I was,

maybe seeing how
I've developed.

I'm not sure.

The abduction experiences
after that

seemed to involve
reproductive stuff.

They were really fascinated
with our reproductive abilities,

and fascinated with

our genetics,
for some reason.

Or maybe they're manipulating
our genetics.

In my case, I think

the latter is probably
more true.

Every time I'm up there,

I'm up there with a woman.

A human female.

And, um...

usually it's the same one.

Over the years,
it's always been the same one.

It's really bizarre.

[Deborah] So are the two of
you together or separate?

We are together.
We're together.

We're side by side,

and we're being led into
this other

-vehicle or room...
-Okay.

After they did whatever
it was they were doing,

checking us out,
or whatever,

they brought me and this woman

into this room.

[Deborah] And then
what happens next

as you're taken into
that room?

We're just sitting there,
and then

all these little kids...

I don't know if they're kids,
they're like little...

They look like kids.

All these kids
come up and...

The lady's starting
to wake up,

and she looks real happy,

and she starts hugging them.

And then she looks at me
and I look at her,

and then we're both
really confused.

There are just these kids,
and they

come and hug my leg
and hold my hand.

There were seven children
all together.

They were varying ages,
varying sizes,

varying, you know...

Some of them looked more human,
some of them looked less human,

some of them had hair,
some of them didn't.

And...

I'm looking at these children

and I'll never forget...

Oh, God.

Every single time...

Every single time
I talk about this...

This one little girl

comes up to me
and hugs my leg.

And...

I'm looking down
at this little,

this beautiful little child

hugging my leg,

and I realize that

this, this kid
looks like me.

And she's beautiful.

But she's different.

Because it's all
about the eyes.

She has these huge

oversized, almond shaped,
slanted,

so blue they're
almost violet eyes.

Beautiful blond hair.

And she's just clinging
on to my leg,

like, "Please.
Please don't let me go."

I don't want to
leave her behind.

[Deborah] You don't want to
leave who behind?

-The babies.
-The babies?

What are you feeling right now

besides the fact that
you don't wanna leave them?

They're crying.

They're crying?
What tells you that
they're crying?

I can see them crying.

They're reaching for me
and they're making me go.

The children are
making you go?

No.

They're taking me
away from them.

Stan basically was reliving

his experiences.

And it wasn't even
about remembering.

And to sit there
and watch as

he physically experienced
the pain

inflicted on him,

was very hard.

It was just heartbreaking
to watch.

The memories he did have

of his abductions

and the woman

that he remembered
seeing her,

he knew what she looked like,
what she sounded like...

was hard for me.

But during these regressions,

it all just came really...

It became a reality for me.

I kept looking at her
and looking at her.

And Lisa watched me looking
at her and she goes,

you know, "What's up?"

And I said, "I know her
from somewhere.

I mean, I don't know
where I know her...

I know her from somewhere."

And then it hit me
like a lead balloon.

Like a ton of bricks.

She was the woman I was with
all this time,

every time I was taken.

It was the same woman.

And we became
very close friends.

And it got to a point where

it was kind of hard
for Lisa, because,

we had this weird connection,

me and Victoria.

This bizarre,
unnatural connection.

I was so wrapped up in the,
you know the...

case and learning about it,

and learning what my role
was in it,

and experiencing so many
things around me,

that I wasn't really...

I wasn't focused on
Lisa's feelings.

When he found Victoria...

That was really,

really, really hard for me
to deal with.

Because I knew she was real,

I knew she existed,

and in some ways I prayed

that he never found her.

Because for...

For six years I worried...

What would happen to me...

as his wife.

And then,

when it happened,

all my fears started to,

like, materialize.

It was like
this new courtship.

It reminded me very much
of when Stan and I met.

The hours of conversations.

And they had a connection

via seven children,

that Stan and I
didn't have.

There were some instances
were Stan and I would have
a deep conv...

We'd be in
a deep conversation,

and it's like she couldn't
put a wedge through us,

because we were so focused
on this

scenario that we were
involved in,

and trying to learn more
about it.

So I think there was,
you know, there was jealousy,

but it stemmed from probably
just knowing that

Stan had had experiences
with this woman, me,

up there.

Victoria and I...

I mean, we had some rough
spots where...

my jealousy and my anger

was very evident to
anyone in that house.

We'd get together and
the two of them
would disappear,

and I would flip out.

I mean,
I would just be furious.

Because...

when I voiced my concerns,

it's, "Oh,
you're imagining it."

It's like, don't put it off
that I'm imagining anything.

I see what's going on
in my house,

and I'm not okay with it.

I don't know how I
would have acted,

but she always held herself
in complete poise,

in class.

And I mean, there were
a couple of instances
where she'd

you know, get...

You know, you could tell
she was hurt or bothered.

Especially if he and I would
go off to the side

and be in
this deep conversation,

and she'd be
looking for him

and we're sitting out
in the front yard talking.

And then I
started understanding...

Not liking it, obviously,

but understanding

that here's these two people

that were put together
in these
terrifying experiences.

And they needed each other to
figure out what had happened.

I just wanted them to do it
around everybody else.

You know,
not so closed off.

So my jealousy wasn't...

like, crazy and...

I wasn't worried
constantly that

tomorrow is the last day
of my marriage.

What she has gone through
is such a difficult

emotional path.

And she has been able
to do it with grace

and keeping her head on,

and keeping
her marriage together.

I have never doubted that
my husband loves me

more than anything else.

And he knows that,
you know,

obviously I'd give my life

[chuckles]
to support him.

You know, it's...

I would never lie for him,
but I will support him.

I'll back him up
when he tells his story,

when it's true,

and the events are accurate.

Otherwise I call him
out on it.

It's like, "No, that's not
what had happened."

-So--
-[man] Can I interrupt you
before that?

Mm-hmm.

You just said you would
never lie for him.

That's right.
I won't.

To your core,
that's who you are?

Absolutely.

So nothing that has happened,

in any way, shape,
or form,

in his life, to you,
has been fabricated?

No. Nothing...

Nothing that he has shared
with you, or anyone else...

is fabricated.

I would not...

I cannot tolerate liars.

I cannot stand deception.

I would...

If I thought Stan was
lying about any of this,

making any of it up,

I would have walked away
faster than anything.

Love or no love.

I wouldn't do it.

He's not lying, Stan, no.

When you live with somebody,

and the person is
undergoing trauma,

and the person has,
you know, has...

He has physical contact.

In other words, this isn't
just downloading of aliens.

This is physical marks
and physical problems,

and physical interaction.

The person that's
the closest to you

knows whether
you're lying or not.

And she's...

Actually, she and the family,

all her family,

know that this is
a real phenomenon.

Now, whether some of it
has been done to him

to confuse him,
and half of it is,

is disinformation,
or some of it is copycat,

we don't know that.

But we know
some of it is real.

Do I believe everything that's
happened to him?

Absolutely not.

Because I can't investigate
everything that's
happened to him.

But I'll tell you what.

Out of all the things
that he's claimed

has happened to him,
even if you believe 40%,

that's a lot.

That's enough right there,
just that 40%.

It's enough

to, you know,

to believe that he's
an actual abductee.

This light

just explodes on to the ground,

right next to the house,

and starts coming up towards

where the video camera
is bolted
to the side of the house.

And you see what looks like
soap bubbles start
flying around.

It almost looks like there's
a little bit of steam

coming off the grass when
that light hits the grass.

And then, pretty soon,

the video camera
was taken out.

And I came back
with a bloody nose,

and peeing blood.

Later that morning,

when I woke up,

I went to go check to see
why the cameras didn't...

Why the cameras
stopped working.

Because we saw on the video

this amazing event took place.

The beam of light
hit the ground
next to the house.

But it stopped working.

And I wanted to go see
what the heck happened.

So I went outside,
and I noticed this...

It's as if where the beam
of light hit the camera,

it cleaned the whole area
of sighting,

in this perfect, like, arc.

And it literally melted
the siding.

You could see where
some kind of heat warped

and kind of browned
the siding a little bit,

especially up
toward the camera.

And it also killed
the grass below.

Now, when they analyzed
the siding, it cleaned

the siding somehow,

or pulled the dirt out of
the siding,

all the way through
the molecular structure
of the siding itself.

The very next day, I was
going to collect
a piece of siding,

because it was my day off

and Lisa had to go
to work early.

And I woke up eight o'clock
in the morning,

'cause I heard this pounding.

It's like, what in the world?

I went outside to look,
and there were two guys

had taken down
my surveillance camera

and laid it in the grass,

and they were replacing
the siding of my house.

I was pretty upset that
they touched
my surveillance camera,

and what the hell
are they doing
replacing the siding.

I tried to get a hold
of the landlord,

but the landlord
was on vacation

and, um...

I asked these guys,
"What the hell are you doing?"

"Well, your landlord wants us
to replace your siding."

I had no way to check
right away.

So I let them do whatever.

I go, "Well, I want a piece
of the siding."

I started
rummaging through it.

They got really irate.

They said,
"No, absolutely not.

We gotta keep
every little piece of it,

because we got to
prove to your landlord

we replaced the siding.

I knew instantly that
there was something fishy

about that whole thing.

Well, about not quite
40 minutes had passed,

and all of a sudden I heard
a Shop-Vac going.

Well, I came
running outside,

and they were
Shop-Vacuuming the yard.

And when they weren't looking,
I grabbed a piece of siding.

Even before then, I went
and got my video camera,

because I wanted to videotape
the whole incident.

Because I didn't trust
what was going on.

And it's weird because
they wouldn't look at me.

I got them to tell me
what date it is,

and made small talk.

and they didn't even
look at me

to see that I had
a video camera going.

They just refused...
They always had
their back to me,

constantly trying to
turn their back.

And when I purposely walked
around to face them,
they turned away.

And so, I grabbed
a piece of siding,

and after about 45 minutes,

they Shop-Vacced the yard.

And I thought they went

to lunch and were
gonna come back.

They disappeared.

It says "Bob Siding from
Grand Island, Nebraska"
on the side of their truck.

And all they replaced

is where the UFO beamed
my surveillance camera.

That's it.

And when I called the landlord,
the landlord said,

"I didn't ask for them
to side the house.

Why are they siding
the house?

I hope they don't charge me."

And then the investigators
looked up

Bob Siding from Grand Island,
and there's no such thing.

No such thing.

This weird
British sounding voice

left a message for us,

saying that it wasn't safe
to live in Colorado Springs,

and I thought somebody
was joking around,

but honestly, I wished
I would have listened,

because not long
after that,

I was riding my bicycle
to work,

'cause I didn't live very far
from where I worked.

And this black SUV kinda
pulled up alongside of me,

as I was riding, and I
heard them say something.

It's like, "Oh, great."

You know, some military,

some, some drunk
military types

trying to start trouble.

Because there's a lot of
military bases
in Colorado Springs.

Well, I ignored them
and kept riding.

They were stopped behind a car
at a stop light,

so I just went up and over
an embankment

and drove into the parking lot
where I worked,

and I was gonna go around
the building to lock up my bike.

Somehow these guys knew
exactly where I parked my bike,

because they found a back way
to get into

the back parking lot,

where they cut me off.

It was a guy and...

the passenger side gets
out of the car and says,

"You need to keep
your mouth shut."

And I look at him
and I said,

"I didn't say anything
to you."

And I knew these guys
were gonna start trouble.

And you could tell they were
definitely some kind of
Black Ops military

just by the way they looked.

He started shoving me,

and I kind of fell off
my bike a little bit.

And I heard him talking
about the alien stuff,

and I said,

"I can't shut up
about this stuff.

That's ridiculous."

And so he started swinging
and we got into a tussle.

You know, I grew up in
south-west Denver,

so I kinda know how to
fight a little bit.

And, um...

Then the guy behind
the passenger seat...

There were four of them
all together.

got out,

and did all these Kung-Fu,
karate kind of moves.

And I actually laughed at him.

I think it kind of pissed
him off a little bit.

But he came at me,
and I had a bike chain

wrapped around my seat

that I locked my bike
up with, and I just...

started whaling at him.

And I honestly thought
I killed him,

because he was on the ground,
jerking around,

and shaking really hard,

like he was having convulsions
or something.

And I felt this intense

kind of weird tickle,
pain thing

on my lower back
and I hit the ground.

And as this was going on,

people were driving by,
watching this happen.

Somebody called the police.

The police were there
almost...

Oh, jeez. I would say
in five minutes

of these guys
picking up their buddy,

and throwing him
in the van,

their whatever, SUV,
and taken off.

Come to find out
they actually tazed me.

And that's why I fell
to the ground.

And, um, one person tried to
follow them and lost them.

So, there was a...

police report made,

and I ended up with
a broken wrist
and a broken nose.

You know, I wished I would've
listened to that call.

This probably was the most
significant event

for me out of all this
that's happened so far.

I'm still waiting for
something more impressive
to happen.

It started out, I was painting
the eave of my house.

And I had, uh...

grabbed for...

I think it was for a brush to
brush the old paint off
of the eave.

And I kind of...

fell off balance
a little bit,

and literally fell 12 feet

onto the ground.

And I tried to
catch myself.

Trouble was, there was
a wheelbarrow full of bricks

just right beneath me.

And I twisted my leg
just right

toward the anterior
cruciate ligament,

in my hamstring
of my right leg.

We went to the doctor.

They told me I was going
to need surgery
that next Wednesday.

I think this happened...

I think it happened
on a Friday.

So I was going to need surgery
that next Wednesday.

I had to wait through
the weekend and everything.

Tuesday night,

something happened though.

Usually when I get taken,
what will happen is

for whatever reason,
whatever power,

or whatever technology
they use,

it seems to blow
the circuit switches.

Blow the breakers
in the house.

So Lisa woke up
in the middle of the night

because I was gone,

and all the breakers
were blown.

She could hear the breakers
go or something,

I don't remember exactly
what woke her up.

But when she tried
to find me,

I was completely missing.

I was gone. I was nowhere
to be found anywhere.

She looked everywhere
for me.

She eventually got all
the breakers flipped back on,

and all the lights
back on,

and she came in the house,
and I was standing dazed

kind of dazed in the middle
of the living room.

Now to me,

I woke up and I was
looking for Lisa.

In reality,
I was already missing,

and Lisa was looking for me.

We didn't really give it
any more thought.

We didn't give it
a second thought.

We decided, you know,
we'll just go back to bed

It could have been
a fluke, who knows.

Well, the next morning,
Lisa...

I couldn't work
because of my knees.

I was off work.

And Lisa had to get up
fairly early
to get ready for work.

So six o'clock in the morning
she got up,

and she noticed
this circle

in my yard.

And it kinda looked like
the same circle

that we had in our yard

from a prior abduction.

Now what's interesting is
Lisa woke me up

to come look
at the circle.

And she was looking
at me weird,

and I walk up to the window
and I said,

"That is...
That's just crazy.

How'd that get there?"

And Lisa goes, "Do you
notice anything different?"

And I go, "Yeah, there's
a damn circle in our yard."

She goes, "No, do you notice
anything different?"

I'm looking at her like,
"What are you talking about?"

So she goes, "Come here."

So I walk over to her
and it's like...

"Hey, where did
my knee brace go?

Where did my cast go?

And how come my knee
doesn't hurt anymore?

And how come it's not
swollen anymore?

And why in the hell do I have
five holes
in the back of my leg?"

There was hardly
any bruising left.

My knee felt... My leg
felt a little stiff,

but after a while
it stretched out.

No pain.

No pain whatsoever.

Well, they found my knee brace

a few hours later when
the researchers came over

on the side of the house,

literally melted into
some bricks.

Including the aluminum rods
were all melted.

And bits and pieces of it
were found in the fields
behind our house

and some of it on the swing set
that was in our yard.

As if this thing was thrown
out of some high place

and it just landed on the side
of our yard.

Well... [chuckles]

The funny thing is I had
to call the doctor

to explain why I didn't
need surgery.

And I remember calling,

and I left a message for her,

and she called me back,

because she was off work,
she called me back.

She said, "Stan, I understand
you're really frightened
about getting surgery.

But if you don't
get this surgery,

you're going to be a cripple
the rest of your life.

You'll never be able
to use that leg again."

I said, "Look,

I can't explain it."
And I wasn't about to explain

that I was taken by aliens
and they fixed my leg.

There's no way I'd say
that to her.

She'd think I was nuts.

I said, "I'm just going to
have to prove to you,

I don't need surgery anymore."

She goes, [sighs]
"All right.

All right.
I'll tell you what.

I'm not at
the office right now,

but my associate's
in the emergency room,

I'll call him, set it up,

you go see him
in the emergency room,

and he'll tell you the same
damn thing I told you."

I was like, "Okay,
fair enough."

Well, I went to
the emergency room,

and my wife brought
a tape recorder

and we recorded
the whole conversation.

And this guy had no idea

how it was possible that
I went from having
a torn ECL

to not having a torn ECL.

And what kind of miraculous
thing could have done this?

At first he said those holes
in the back of my leg
could be

bug bites.

But then, there's no
rivets in my...

He didn't have
any explanation.

And then...

he suggested that we call
The Ghostbusters

to come figure out
what was going on.

And I never told him anything
about the ET stuff.

He just assumed.

This video was
pretty much, um...

the piece of evidence that
put me on the map.

It's also the one
I get the most,

um, what's the word...

Uh, most crap for, basically.

You know,
the debunkers try to...

The skeptics just will
pick that thing apart.

How it originally started.

I got married,
moved to Nebraska.

And I was living in a town
called Kearney, Nebraska.

And I was watching TV

and got up to get
a drink of water

when I noticed movement
outside of one of the windows.

And it's like,

"Why the hell would somebody
be looking in our window

late at night?"
And then I...

First thing I thought was,
"Oh, my God.
We got a Peeping Tom

trying to see
my stepdaughter."

This literally went on
for months.

Good three months,
maybe four.

Called the police,

neighbors knew about it.

It got so bad we set up
little booby traps outside.

And every time, you know,

we heard a noise,
we had a bat by the door
and we'd run outside,

but nothing. Nothing.

One day, one of
the researchers said,

"Hey, you've got
a Sony camcorder
with night shot on it.

Next time you see movement
out of one of the windows,

grab your tripod,
put on the tripod,

point it toward that window

and see what you can catch."

Well, it happened,
and I grabbed my camcorder,

and put my camera
on the tripod

and pointed it
toward that window.

And I went to the bathroom.

I was sitting at the edge
of the bathtub,
reading a magazine,

'cause I really wanted
to catch this guy.

I wanted to give him a little
time to look in the window.

And I was reading
the magazine,

and there were
two flashes of light.

And the second flash of light
was so bright,

it almost blinded me.

And I had the door
almost all the way shut.

It's like, holy crap.

So I looked

and I kind of ducked back,
and then I kind of looked again,

and I see this head
pop down.

And it's like, "Yes, I got him.
I got him."

Finally got the little
son of a gun.

And I went to go look
out of the window,

to see if I could
see this guy,

and I saw what I thought was
a small child

running toward the backyard.

Whatever it was clipped
the bush next to the house,

and stopped as if it
heard me or something.

It slowly looked back at me.

What's interesting is
I thought it was a full moon.

Because I had a real good
visual of this thing,

whatever it is.

And come to find out
there was no full moon.

So it might have been
something else over
our house that night.

I was kind of staying away,

because my stepson had friends
over for a sleepover.

I didn't want 'em
to get in trouble.

And I woke up,
'cause I heard a noise,

I had one eye open.

And I'm sitting there
going like this.

And I see a naked figure
running to my kitchen.

I'm thinking, "What the heck
is my stepson doing?"

I thought his friends
dared him to do something.

And I was gonna go
find my camera,

uh, to blackmail him,

'cause I wanted to
catch him on camera.

I went upstairs and
they were still asleep.

I kind of woke one kid up
opening the door.

He said,
"Hey, I heard a noise,"

and then went back to sleep.

Went back downstairs,

made sure there was nobody
messing around with me.

I was just about to turn
off the camera,

when I see this figure

looking at me through
the sliding glass door.

Blinking, moving.

It's like that's gotta be
somebody in a costume,

or some kind of puppet
or something.

I got closer.
He closed his eyes slowly.

And as if he was trying not
to make a sudden move,

he slowly just moved off
to the left
and disappeared.

It's like, holy crap!

So I'm looking outside
to see if,

you know, there's somebody
holding like a puppet
or something.

And there's nothing.

I went to the kitchen,

and there were

maybe three flashes of light

that you can see
reflecting off

the windowsill
of the kitchen.

And I woke up on the ground
45 minutes later.

Only remembering seeing
the flashes of light.

I didn't remember actually
seeing that being in the window

till I looked at the VCR.

Well, we were having a party
up at their home.

And it was
a book signing party.

A surprise party for Stan.

One of the things that we
try to do

is make sure someone is
with Stan at all times.

So that if something
does happen,

if he sees something,

that there is a witness there.

It was raining outside.

And I was looking
out the window,

you know,
being really grateful
for the friends I had,

when I noticed
this little girl

at the edge of the driveway.

Stan had seen
a little girl outside.

And it was raining.

He's like,
"Come here, Victoria. Look,
there's a little girl out here."

I'm like, "Stan, it's probably
just a neighbor kid.

Just get in.
I'm not going out there,
it's raining."

And it was after that
that I said I will never

not pay attention
if Stan Romanek says,

"Hey, look at this.
This is unusual."

I had my porch light on,

and it illuminated
the yard up enough

that I could see
this little girl

standing in a gray jumpsuit,

at the edge
of the driveway.

She had dripping wet hair,
and I'm thinking,

"It's nine o'clock at night,
it's raining.

This girl's wearing
a jumpsuit...

What parent in their right
mind would let

their little daughter out
in the rain like this?

And why is she
wearing a jumpsuit?

And why is she
staring at me?"

I remember Stan going outside.

He said he wanted to
go outside for a little while.

And it was kind of funny,
because

my friend Rick comes over
and he goes, "Where's Stan?"

And I said,
"He went outside."

And he's like,
"Is he alone?"

And I said yeah, and he's
like, "Oh, I'd better go."

Dammit. Let me know
whenever this happens.

So I went outside
immediately.

I was looking
for a flashlight.

All I had was my camera,

and I was using my camera
as a flash,

'cause I wanted to see what
this little girl wanted.

And she ran away again.

And it was by chance
that I clicked

the camera just in time
to get a picture

of her looking from
behind a tree.

Looking out from
behind a tree.

And I was so dumbfounded

and amazed by this picture.

All I could do was
sit there and stare at it.

He had an odd look
on his face.

Just dumbfounded.

I said,

"Hey, Stan, how are you?
Doing okay?"

He didn't respond.

He just stared at me.

And I was speechless.
I couldn't say anything.

He goes, "Stan,
are you okay?"

And I just showed him
the picture. He goes,

"Oh, my God.

You have to show
everybody this picture.

This is the most amazing
thing I've ever seen."

When we got back
into the party,

I told everybody,

"Well, everybody,
listen for a second."

I said, "I need
everybody's attention
right now.

Something appeared to have
just happened outside.

And I'd like everyone of you

to look at what's on
the camera here."

And her eyes were
really large.

They were very large,
almond shaped.

Human eyes,
but very, very large.

It was more than
a photograph.

She was on top
of that camera,

emoting emotion.

It was a moving moment.

Many people just
started crying.

There was something
so profound about

what appeared
may have just happened.

So this was really strange.

And we're all, you know,
kind of freaking out
about this.

Everybody had taken a look.

So I kept telling him,
"Let's get this
on the computer.

Let's get this
on the computer."

Everybody said,
"Go put it on your computer.

Go put it on your computer
so we can see it bigger."

I took two steps
down the stairs
to go to my office.

Beep.

The picture's disappeared.

We checked.
It was off the camera.
Not there.

The shot's before it
were there,

the shots after it
were there.

Every single person
that was at that party

saw it before
it disappeared.

And then he
received a phone call.

And then two minutes later,
the phone rang,

and somebody handed me
the phone.

And I answered it.

"Daddy, don't worry.
I love you. I'm okay."

I started just crying
and crying, and crying.

Because I knew in my heart
that it was...

And then it all
came flooding back.

That little girl that was
hugging my leg was...

was the girl that was there
at the party.

When I ran across his
first video of his
first UFO sighting,

I was really intrigued.

Plus I was part of MUFON,

and I noticed that they had
one of their investigators
look into it.

So really, I kind of...

Since it was some of
the best video I had seen,

wanted to look more into

the voracity of the video.

And I found that it was
very credible

that the MUFON investigator
had found there were several

witnesses to some of
his first sightings.

When you only have
a first hand experience
with only one person,

there's no really much
you can do with that.

That's not the issue.
That was never
the issue with Stan.

There's just so much
information out there.

It's almost overwhelming.

Stan's story is incredible
also because

it has so much proof.

It has so much credibility.

I mean, he has, not only
photographs, films, videos.

He downloads formulas.

He has it all
in that story.

That story is a goldmine
for an example of

perfect contact.

There are aspects of the case
that are very solid.

That it would be impossible

for Stan to hoax.

Stan is being used
to give a message, also.

I mean, he's being used
to say it's real.

The stuff that I've seen,
the evidence

that I, that I...

that he has, that I looked at.

The people that I've
interviewed around him...

Wow. Yeah, he's the real deal,
no doubt.

My name is Claude Swanson.
I'm a physicist.

I've a graduate degree in
physics, MIT.

Class of '69.

PhD in physics
from Princeton,
class of '76.

I did engineering consulting

with the government through
consulting companies

for 20-30 years.

What got me into physics
was my real true love,

which is what's called
Unified Field Theory.

Which is like
the theory of everything.

It's like
the deepest questions
of science.

Of how things really work.

For me, the enduring thing is

that if you put together this
particular set of equations,

you'd have to know a lot

about physics.

Okay? And from what I've
seen of Stan, he doesn't.

You'd have to know a lot.

And there aren't many people
who know...

who would be smart enough
to be able to

choose these
particular equations

and put them together.

Most people would pick
a random set of equations.

Or they'd pick something
that looks complicated.

That maybe has no meaning
to it.

These equations
actually relate

to propulsion

and faster than light travel.

I think one thing
that they give

is a sense of credibility
to Stan.

That these equations are

beyond what he could come
up with on his own.

That they are

indication of
a higher intelligence

interacting with him.

The more I have looked into
them over the years,

and the more I have figured
out different pieces of it,

the more impressed I am

that they seem to
actually describe

how they do some of the things
that we find anomalous.

How they go
faster than light.

How they get from some
distance starting here...

In our current science,

even maybe 20 years ago,

those things were
viewed as impossible.

What's been happening in
the past 15 years or so is

there's a group of leading
and scientific thinkers,

who seem to be following
along a similar path.

Who, um...

They're not
the mainstream scientists.

But there are more and more
indications that

seem to back up

the equations that
Stan has been writing.

So there's a trend here.
A growth in a sense.

You know, these might
really work.

One of his equations

relates to a solution that
was found in the '90s

by a physicist
named Alcubierre,

a Mexican physicist,

that is the first

proposal for how
you could take gravity

and make faster than light
travel from it.

He found a solution,
a mathematical solution

that gives you a warp drive.

That's what they called it.

Now, it involves...

It involves some conditions

that are not realizable
in our current physics today

But still, it's a step
in that direction.

And as you look more into it,
that's one of Stan's equations.

And as you look into it,

the other people put off.

And Robert Dickie, whose
equations also show up

in Stan's work...

They're also working
on the same idea.

How to change space time

in ways we didn't know
was possible before.

Right now
what I'm picking up,

is that there's a theme.

And the theme is

that it is possible to get
from there to here.

Our present
conventional view is

we couldn't have ET visitors
because it takes too long

for them to get
from there to here
at the speed of light or less.

But suppose there are ways
of warping space and time,

or going faster than light.

And that's what some of these
equations are hinting at.

My first name is Stanislav.

My middle name is Gergre.

My last name is O'Jack.

I have a PhD
in clinical psychology.

And I have a background in
engineering,
architectural design,

industrial design.

And education headmaster for
a private school
for gifted children.

I administered,
with his agreement,

with no one else around,

His wife was in that building,
as was my wife.

It was the home of
a mutual friend.

About five other people.

And they're in the very end of
the house. We use this office.

Doors was closed.
Very private.

I asked him
a series of questions

to determine from my
interpretation
of his coherence.

His intent.

Is he there to bribe me
intellectually?

Does he want me to set up
some kind of an assessment

or analysis to glorify
who he is?

I look at all those issues.

I gave him some documents.

I said, "I want you to take
these tests

and answer them at
whatever speed you want.

Don't worry about
the length of time.

But you can't ask me
any questions."

He said, "Okay."

So he took the post traumatic
stress disorder
assessment.

And it shows that he had
a very high degree of stress

related to something.

Now, it could be related
to his marriage.

It could be related to

something he refers to as

a UFO experience.

I gave him a personality test
called Myers Briggs,

in order to be able to
understand his personality,

relative to himself and
the way he answers questions.

I also gave him one for

his ability to recall things
from memorization.

I gave him one for

interpretation in regards
to lying.

I aligned
27 different questions

and how he answered them.

And I watched what he did
with every test.

Because that's part
of the assessment.

How did he take it?

Was he eager?

Was he frustrated?

Was he focused?

Did he ever stop and lean back,
or did he ever hit the table?

Many things that might
show frustration.

He did all five tests
very calmly.

And when it was all through,

it took, as I recall,
almost two hours.

When it was all through,
he said, "I'm through.

How am I?"

I said, "You look okay to me."

He said, "Am I?"

I said,
"I haven't assessed the test.
How can I answer that?"

He said, "Okay.
Look at it and tell me."

I said I'll take
one for the night.

Because I have to look at
it very carefully

and do an assessment.

He said, "Can you just tell
me am I crazy or not?
Can you say that?"

I said, "Yes, I can tell you.

From my perspective,
you're as sane as most
people, if not more.

You've merely have had
more experiences

that confuse others more than
it confuses you."

When I explained to him
norm is not

something that we can all
agree upon.

So we have to have a norm
which to agree upon.

So if you're
asking for my norm,

are you normal?
The answer is yes.

If you ask many other people,
the answer is no.

In fact, they'd probably
call you weird.

I said, "You do not lie.

Or you did not to me.

Your experiences
are real.

I have a lot of proof for it.

Therefore, you're okay."

My name is Leo Sprinkle.
R. Leo Sprinkle. PhD.

I'm a counseling
psychologist

in the state of Wyoming.

I teach self-hypnosis

to people who wish to
learn the techniques,

not only to relax the body,
but to focus the mind.

So from the standpoint of
general mental health,

these techniques are useful.

Some people may not like
the word "hypnosis"

or they don't like
the word "hypnosis."

Let's use "meditation"
or "day dreaming."

"Image rehearsal"
for athletes.

"Goofing off" for teenagers.

The task is to assist
a person to recognize

that within each person,

is more awareness,
more knowledge

than he or she may consciously
be aware of.

[interviewer]
On a scale of one to ten,

with one being insignificant,

ten being
the most significant ever,

-where does Stan's--
-Nine.

Stan's case

is important
from the standpoint of

everyday people who want

something that they can
put their hands on.

There's a photograph.

Here's a telephone call

from an electronic voice
that can't be traced.

Here is an equation
that the physicists are

puzzling over.

That kind of information

means that Stan,
as a person,

doesn't have to be honest,
doesn't have to be nice.

Doesn't have to be likable.

He is nice, and he is honest,
and he is likable,

but he doesn't have to be,
because he's got
all this information.

He has been willing not only
to share the photographs,
the films,

the phone messages.
He's been willing
to work with other people

and write books,

and to create film,

so that not only his story,

but the people who are
with him, their stories

are being documented

and being shared.

To me, it's part of
the ongoing process.

So my view is, if a person
has several sightings,

and then they have a job,
they have a task,

they have a duty,
they have a chore...

It may be merely to
recognize it, accept it,

and talk about it with
friends and family.

Or it may be something
beyond that.

And so, with Stan,

the fact that he had already

been willing to
go through hypnosis,

the fact that he'd already
been willing to talk about it,

and the fact that
he had information

beyond what most people have,

and that he's dyslexic.

All of those things
say to me

that he is a messenger.

So that's why I ask him

when I was with Alejandro,
and with him and Lisa.

"Do you think of yourself
as a messenger?"

And he said, "No."

But as he talked to his wife,

and as he went on further,
then he began to realize

he may not think of himself
as a messenger,

in the sense that
he has a message,

but it's just like
when I was a 10-year-old kid,

five o'clock in the morning,
I'm riding my little bicycle

and I'm delivering newspapers.

I don't know the reporter,
I don't know the editor,

I don't know the publisher.

I'm just delivering the news.

He's delivering the news.

He's probably a vehicle

for some group,
or some race,

to give a positive message
to the planet.

But, you know, he's human.

So we get
all the human stuff

and then we get all
the Starseed stuff together.

And he has a purpose.
He has a mission.

And I think his story
is fascinating.

And I have recommended
that this is

the ongoing contactee case
people should look at.

I remember
Paul Harris asked me

some years ago,

"Why don't you think
people believe in UFOs?"

And I told him because people
have no place to put it
in their mind.

There's no reverence."

It is of such importance
or significance,

that it would force a person

to reconsider all their
foundational beliefs.

The beliefs about religion,

who we are, what we are,
why we're here.

People aren't prepared to
go through that mostly.

It's much easier to
go along with the herd

and I've got plenty of things
I wanna door have to do,

and I'm busy, busy, busy.

It's amazing
how many people witness

unusual events

and rationalize them and
go about their daily routine.

It's our nature.

It's the most comfortable
thing to do.

I mean, I think that
there's a...

A growing number of people

who are taking an interest in

the larger definition of
who we are as human beings.

There are tens of thousands
of people

who've had
near death experiences.

Who've been dead clinically
on the table,

the operating table.

Heart operations,
things like that.

They've experienced
the other side,

as they would say.

There's a uniformity
in what they're reporting.

That there is an other side.

They come back saying

we are powerful spirits,

here in these physical bodies,

trying to have
a human experience.

There are these
higher dimensions.

We're all kind of learning
and growing

in these experiences.

And a lot of what they say
seems very consistent

with the lessons that are
coming out of these
ET contact cases.

Trying to learn who we
really are as human beings.

To expand
our own consciousness,

our own understanding.

Bottom line. Even Stan,
I think, understands this.

That the group...

And there are several groups
visiting the planet.

The group that
he's involved with,

have some kind of
spiritual message.

Some kind of evolution
of humanity

that they want to happen.

At the solar level,
whee, this is big time.

Because in my opinion,

our souls are recognizing

that this is a crucial
time for humanity,

and for the planet.

And so,
if we can bring ourselves
at the human level,

to work together,
to collaborate,

not only with ourselves,
but with the ETs,

then I think
it's well worth it,

and it'll be
worth celebrating.

Yee haw!

People always ask me,

"Would you do this
over again?"

In a heartbeat.
I would.

In a heartbeat.

Because I've
learned exponentially.

And I get to look
outside the box.

His responsibility is
to simply share his story.

What he's experienced.

And if it helps people
who are in the same situation,

that's very important
to us.

It's all about getting
the message out.

Every person, whether we
are researcher,

whether we are investigator,
whether we are viewer,

whether we are contactee,

or whether we are a fan,

or a foe of a contactee,

each of us has our story.

And each of us

is unlocking inside,

"Why am I afraid of ETs?"

Or, "Why do I love ET?"

Or, "Why do I wonder
about humanity?"

Each of us
has our own story.

I have definitely gone
from ignorant,

you know, disconnected,

frightened,
to enlightened.

I have.
That's what this is about.

That's what
my message is about.

There's more stuff out there.

And it's time for
the human race to grow up.

It's time for the human race
to know who they are.

It's time for the human race
to understand that there's more
than just themselves.

It's really easy,
but it's very daunting.

All we have to do,
the human race,

is understand we're not alone,
and it changes everything.

But trying to get
thousands of years

of, you know...

society...

ripped out of you
is gonna be tough,

because we've been taught

certain things
through religion

and through all this other,

all these other
control mechanisms,

that we're supposed to think
a certain way.

And it's not
benefiting us at all.

And so, you know,
the message is

there's more out there
and it's time we know it.

It's time to grow up
and take responsibility
for who we are.

We're being asked to grow up

and be more in contact
with the spiritual side

of ourselves, and...

I mean, to me, that's what
this whole process is about.

It's about growing up and
taking on a more mature,

and a much larger view
of who we are

and how we fit into things.

You know, from the bottom
of my heart,

I just wanna help
the human race.

It's just, you know,

I get lost sometimes.

I don't know if I'm
doing the right thing,

or the wrong thing.

I just try to wing it
as best as I can.

And... But, really,

when I realized my role
in all this,

I felt honored to be
a part of it.

And I still feel honored
to be a part of it.

And I pray, every day,

that I can somehow
make a difference

in what happens
to this wonderful race...

This glorious race,
because it's important.

[solemn music]

[upbeat music]

♪ Misunderstood

♪ And shut out

♪ No people could
Understand ♪

♪ What's out there

♪ So I turn the lights out

♪ And I say these words

♪ Hello, hello

♪ Hello, hello

♪ Is there anybody out there?

♪ I'll take your words

♪ And keepsakes

♪ And share them with
Believers ♪

♪ And change the world again

♪ So I turn the lights out

♪ And I say these words

♪ Hello, hello

♪ Hello, hello

♪ So I turn the lights out

♪ And I say these words

♪ So I turn the lights out

♪ And I change the world