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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:08,674 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 2 00:00:08,757 --> 00:00:10,965 [woman] The U.S. Intelligence Community said in a statement 3 00:00:11,048 --> 00:00:14,632 that it is confident that Russia's senior-most officials 4 00:00:14,715 --> 00:00:16,173 directed the hacking of emails 5 00:00:16,256 --> 00:00:18,215 from the Democratic National Committee 6 00:00:18,298 --> 00:00:21,173 to interfere with the U.S. election process. 7 00:00:21,256 --> 00:00:23,256 [woman 2] The key issue isn't what Russia did. 8 00:00:23,340 --> 00:00:25,715 It's whether Trump's team colluded with Russia 9 00:00:25,799 --> 00:00:27,340 to influence the election. 10 00:00:27,423 --> 00:00:30,423 Moments ago, the appointment of a special counsel 11 00:00:30,507 --> 00:00:32,465 to oversee the FBI investigation 12 00:00:32,548 --> 00:00:34,382 of possible collusion 13 00:00:34,465 --> 00:00:37,048 between the Trump campaign and the Russians. 14 00:00:39,423 --> 00:00:42,632 Bob Mueller and his highly conflicted team is going out 15 00:00:42,715 --> 00:00:43,882 on a witch hunt now going back into the financials-- 16 00:00:43,965 --> 00:00:45,423 [Dobbs] That's a nice way to say it. 17 00:00:45,507 --> 00:00:47,674 They're a bunch of damn Democrats. 18 00:00:47,757 --> 00:00:49,882 One of the biggest political witch hunts 19 00:00:49,965 --> 00:00:51,965 in the history of this country. 20 00:00:52,048 --> 00:00:54,590 I'm now talking about the special counsel Robert Mueller. 21 00:00:54,674 --> 00:00:58,382 I've never been involved in an investigation on either side 22 00:00:58,465 --> 00:01:00,382 that's more illegitimate than this one. 23 00:01:00,465 --> 00:01:03,840 And I wonder, where's the sense of justice 24 00:01:03,924 --> 00:01:05,715 on the part of Mueller, 25 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:07,674 on the part of the Justice Department? 26 00:01:07,757 --> 00:01:09,799 [male reporter] Was this the right move, 27 00:01:09,882 --> 00:01:12,590 or is this part of a witch hunt? 28 00:01:12,674 --> 00:01:14,590 Well, I respect the move, but the entire thing 29 00:01:14,674 --> 00:01:17,548 has been a witch hunt, and, uh, there is no collusion 30 00:01:17,632 --> 00:01:20,674 between certainly myself and the Russians. 31 00:01:20,757 --> 00:01:22,090 Zero. 32 00:01:22,173 --> 00:01:24,548 ♪♪♪ 33 00:01:24,632 --> 00:01:27,340 [woman] Mr. President, in view of, uh, a new court ruling, 34 00:01:27,423 --> 00:01:28,882 Monica Lewinsky may have to tes-- 35 00:01:28,965 --> 00:01:31,256 appear before a grand jury. 36 00:01:31,340 --> 00:01:33,423 Under the circumstances, do you stand by your 37 00:01:33,507 --> 00:01:36,340 previous denials of any relationship with her, 38 00:01:36,423 --> 00:01:39,340 and, uh, do you think that, uh, the special prosecutor 39 00:01:39,423 --> 00:01:43,048 has gone beyond the call and is out to get you? 40 00:01:43,131 --> 00:01:47,965 Well...I think modestly observant people 41 00:01:48,048 --> 00:01:50,131 are fully capable of drawing their own conclusions. 42 00:01:50,215 --> 00:01:51,799 [male reporter] Can you talk to us, sir? 43 00:01:51,882 --> 00:01:53,507 No, I won't be making any, uh, statements. 44 00:01:53,590 --> 00:01:55,382 [Starr] The question of whether we are capable 45 00:01:55,465 --> 00:01:57,840 of holding the president accountable 46 00:01:57,924 --> 00:02:00,048 is an enduring one. 47 00:02:00,131 --> 00:02:02,423 We need to be vigilant about saying, 48 00:02:02,507 --> 00:02:06,382 "Are there mechanisms in place to ensure accountability, 49 00:02:06,465 --> 00:02:09,215 to ensure honesty, uh, lawful behavior?" 50 00:02:09,298 --> 00:02:12,423 then holding the wielders of power accountable 51 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:14,215 when they cross the line. 52 00:02:14,298 --> 00:02:16,215 We've had Filegate. We've had Travelgate. 53 00:02:16,298 --> 00:02:17,965 We've had so many gates, 54 00:02:18,048 --> 00:02:19,674 I think it's time to show him the front door. 55 00:02:19,757 --> 00:02:21,674 [Panetta] What has happened is, every issue 56 00:02:21,757 --> 00:02:23,382 becomes political. 57 00:02:23,465 --> 00:02:25,256 Every issue becomes a hammer 58 00:02:25,340 --> 00:02:27,465 on which to beat the other side up with. 59 00:02:27,548 --> 00:02:29,131 The American people sitting back 60 00:02:29,215 --> 00:02:32,131 and seeing that kind of partisanship 61 00:02:32,215 --> 00:02:35,465 are left in a state of confusion 62 00:02:35,548 --> 00:02:38,465 as to whether or not what is being investigated 63 00:02:38,548 --> 00:02:42,131 is real, or is it just part of the political game? 64 00:02:42,215 --> 00:02:44,131 ♪♪♪ 65 00:02:44,215 --> 00:02:47,131 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 66 00:02:47,215 --> 00:02:52,340 ♪♪♪ 67 00:03:03,507 --> 00:03:04,674 [Reagan] I, Ronald Reagan... 68 00:03:04,757 --> 00:03:06,048 William Jefferson Clinton... 69 00:03:06,131 --> 00:03:07,632 Do solemnly swear... 70 00:03:07,715 --> 00:03:08,507 Do solemnly swear... 71 00:03:08,590 --> 00:03:11,465 ♪♪♪ 72 00:03:11,548 --> 00:03:13,632 [Nixon] ...and will, to the best of my ability... 73 00:03:13,715 --> 00:03:15,674 [George W. Bush] ...preserve, protect, and defend... 74 00:03:15,757 --> 00:03:19,006 [Trump] ...the Constitution of the United States. 75 00:03:19,090 --> 00:03:24,215 ♪♪♪ 76 00:03:39,674 --> 00:03:42,590 [helicopter rotors whirring] 77 00:03:49,548 --> 00:03:51,799 [radio tuning] 78 00:03:51,882 --> 00:03:53,507 [woman] ...potentially damaging cloud is hanging 79 00:03:53,590 --> 00:03:55,298 over the White House this morning. 80 00:03:55,382 --> 00:03:57,256 Kenneth Starr has been granted permission 81 00:03:57,340 --> 00:03:59,423 to expand his investigation. 82 00:03:59,507 --> 00:04:01,465 - [radio tuning] - [man] At issue, 83 00:04:01,548 --> 00:04:03,882 whether Mr. Clinton had a sexual relationship 84 00:04:03,965 --> 00:04:05,507 with a former White House intern, 85 00:04:05,590 --> 00:04:08,465 Monica Lewinsky, and whether he conspired 86 00:04:08,548 --> 00:04:12,715 to convince her to lie about it under oath. 87 00:04:12,799 --> 00:04:15,298 [man 2] Mr. Clinton gave a sworn deposition under oath. 88 00:04:15,382 --> 00:04:18,090 He denied any affair. 89 00:04:18,173 --> 00:04:20,298 [woman] Monica Lewinsky has reportedly turned over 90 00:04:20,382 --> 00:04:22,382 a dress that has physical evidence 91 00:04:22,465 --> 00:04:24,507 to support her claim that she had 92 00:04:24,590 --> 00:04:26,507 a sexual relationship with the president. 93 00:04:26,590 --> 00:04:28,256 However, this has not yet... 94 00:04:28,340 --> 00:04:29,340 [man] Kenneth Starr has gone directly 95 00:04:29,423 --> 00:04:31,507 to FBI Director Louis Freeh 96 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:34,840 to ask assistance from the FBI crime lab. 97 00:04:34,924 --> 00:04:35,924 [radio tuning] 98 00:04:36,006 --> 00:04:38,507 ♪♪♪ 99 00:04:38,590 --> 00:04:40,965 [Schmidt] Special counsel Ken Starr said, 100 00:04:41,048 --> 00:04:43,757 "I need an agent to come to the White House 101 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:45,465 with one of our prosecutors. 102 00:04:45,548 --> 00:04:47,674 We're gonna draw Clinton's blood. 103 00:04:47,757 --> 00:04:49,715 We need it sent to the FBI labs." 104 00:04:49,799 --> 00:04:51,507 ♪♪♪ 105 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:53,674 Bob Bittman, one of the prosecutors 106 00:04:53,757 --> 00:04:55,715 and an agent, turned up at the White House 107 00:04:55,799 --> 00:04:57,298 at nine or ten o'clock. 108 00:04:57,382 --> 00:04:59,715 ♪♪♪ 109 00:04:59,799 --> 00:05:02,215 Clinton was having dinner in the dining room 110 00:05:02,298 --> 00:05:05,215 with Cornel West, a Princeton professor, 111 00:05:05,298 --> 00:05:08,965 and Clinton is just furious. 112 00:05:09,048 --> 00:05:13,423 Clinton comes upstairs. They draw his blood. 113 00:05:13,507 --> 00:05:17,965 It's very, very creepy and tense. 114 00:05:18,048 --> 00:05:22,423 The level of mistrust on all sides was so high 115 00:05:22,507 --> 00:05:25,882 that when Clinton got up and went back downstairs, 116 00:05:25,965 --> 00:05:29,215 Bittman says to the agent, "Hey, uh, you know, 117 00:05:29,298 --> 00:05:32,006 I-I took my eye off of that vial 118 00:05:32,090 --> 00:05:33,590 for just a half a second. 119 00:05:33,674 --> 00:05:37,006 I--uh, are we sure he didn't pull a switcheroo?" 120 00:05:37,090 --> 00:05:40,548 And the agent says, "No, I-I... 121 00:05:40,632 --> 00:05:42,256 I-I was watching it every second, 122 00:05:42,340 --> 00:05:43,799 and-and it's still warm. 123 00:05:43,882 --> 00:05:46,590 His blood is still warm." 124 00:05:46,674 --> 00:05:49,090 [Podesta] The president was flabbergasted by it 125 00:05:49,173 --> 00:05:51,048 and certainly trying to figure out, 126 00:05:51,131 --> 00:05:54,215 why was Mr. Starr, who had been assigned 127 00:05:54,298 --> 00:05:58,131 to look at, uh, one set of, uh, issues, 128 00:05:58,215 --> 00:06:01,090 now all of a sudden looking into his, uh, you know, 129 00:06:01,173 --> 00:06:03,757 personal affairs, as it were? 130 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:08,507 Mr. President, what does the oath mean to you? 131 00:06:08,590 --> 00:06:10,048 It's the President of the United States. 132 00:06:10,131 --> 00:06:12,215 What does that oath mean to you? 133 00:06:12,298 --> 00:06:14,799 Well, an oath means, 134 00:06:14,882 --> 00:06:18,632 you know, thou shalt not tell a lie. 135 00:06:18,715 --> 00:06:21,382 ♪ Glen Campbell's "Arkansas" playing ♪ 136 00:06:21,465 --> 00:06:26,674 ♪♪♪ 137 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:31,674 ♪ Arkansas, land of opportunity... ♪ 138 00:06:31,757 --> 00:06:35,465 [Schmidt] Arkansas is a much smaller society 139 00:06:35,548 --> 00:06:38,882 and environment than you would expect. 140 00:06:38,965 --> 00:06:43,423 The main city, Little Rock, is astonishingly small. 141 00:06:43,507 --> 00:06:46,382 I mean, when you first fly in there, 142 00:06:46,465 --> 00:06:49,465 you can't believe how dinky it is. 143 00:06:49,548 --> 00:06:52,131 And then once you get out of the city, 144 00:06:52,215 --> 00:06:54,465 it's a very rural state. 145 00:06:54,548 --> 00:06:56,632 There are very few roads. 146 00:06:56,715 --> 00:07:00,507 ♪ Dirt roads that lead nowhere ♪ 147 00:07:00,590 --> 00:07:03,715 ♪ Except to houses that need repair... ♪ 148 00:07:03,799 --> 00:07:06,674 [Schmidt] And people are doing logging everywhere. 149 00:07:06,757 --> 00:07:09,423 Like, in-in their--in their neighborhood, they'll, like, 150 00:07:09,507 --> 00:07:13,382 log out to a lot down the street to make money. 151 00:07:13,465 --> 00:07:17,924 But everybody who's in the sort of upper middle class 152 00:07:18,006 --> 00:07:19,465 is connected. 153 00:07:19,548 --> 00:07:21,924 So the bankers, the lawyers, 154 00:07:22,006 --> 00:07:24,674 the poultry magnates, 155 00:07:24,757 --> 00:07:27,340 and the judges, um, especially, 156 00:07:27,423 --> 00:07:30,090 they are all very intimately involved 157 00:07:30,173 --> 00:07:32,090 in one another's business. 158 00:07:32,173 --> 00:07:34,590 It's a tiny society. 159 00:07:34,674 --> 00:07:37,215 ♪ rock music ♪ 160 00:07:37,298 --> 00:07:39,298 Bill and Hillary Clinton 161 00:07:39,382 --> 00:07:41,423 kind of take Arkansas by storm. 162 00:07:41,507 --> 00:07:44,131 They were la crème de la crème of Arkansas, 163 00:07:44,215 --> 00:07:46,632 even at a very young age. 164 00:07:46,715 --> 00:07:50,256 Bill Clinton was governor at early 30s. 165 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:53,924 But they were also making connections 166 00:07:54,006 --> 00:07:56,965 with some of these Arkansas rogue characters, 167 00:07:57,048 --> 00:07:59,757 including Jim McDougal and Susan McDougal; 168 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,882 Vince Foster, who was Hillary's law partner; 169 00:08:02,965 --> 00:08:05,548 Webb Hubbell, another law partner. 170 00:08:05,632 --> 00:08:07,048 [Hubbell] They were part of Arkansas 171 00:08:07,131 --> 00:08:08,382 and lots of fun. 172 00:08:08,465 --> 00:08:10,799 Hillary and I and Vince Foster 173 00:08:10,882 --> 00:08:12,632 would go to lunch quite often, 174 00:08:12,715 --> 00:08:15,048 uh, and became very good friends. 175 00:08:15,131 --> 00:08:17,507 Uh, Bill loved to play golf, and I loved to play golf, 176 00:08:17,590 --> 00:08:19,799 so we started playing golf together. 177 00:08:19,882 --> 00:08:23,882 And they made friends all over the country pretty quickly. 178 00:08:23,965 --> 00:08:26,507 And it was pretty clear to everyone that at some point, 179 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:28,507 he would want to run for president. 180 00:08:28,590 --> 00:08:30,590 ♪ Fleetwood Mac's "Don't Stop" playing ♪ 181 00:08:30,674 --> 00:08:33,924 [man] The next President of the United States of America, 182 00:08:34,006 --> 00:08:36,215 Senator Bill Clinton. 183 00:08:36,298 --> 00:08:40,173 ♪ Don't stop thinking about tomorrow ♪ 184 00:08:40,256 --> 00:08:44,674 ♪ Don't stop, it'll soon be here ♪ 185 00:08:44,757 --> 00:08:48,048 ♪ It'll be better than before... ♪ 186 00:08:48,131 --> 00:08:51,090 [Schmidt] When the Clintons first came to the White House, 187 00:08:51,173 --> 00:08:53,632 there was a sense that they were a little bit 188 00:08:53,715 --> 00:08:56,674 rough around the edges, not sophisticated. 189 00:08:56,757 --> 00:08:58,840 ♪ rock music ♪ 190 00:08:58,924 --> 00:09:02,632 They had a lot of people around them that-- 191 00:09:02,715 --> 00:09:04,256 living and doing business in Arkansas-- 192 00:09:04,340 --> 00:09:06,840 maybe didn't seem like a problem. 193 00:09:06,924 --> 00:09:11,215 But Arkansas mores are just different, um, 194 00:09:11,298 --> 00:09:13,507 than what plays in Washington. 195 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:17,090 That got them entangled very quickly 196 00:09:17,173 --> 00:09:19,215 in a lot of scandals. 197 00:09:19,298 --> 00:09:22,924 As their friend Webb Hubbell, um, used to say, 198 00:09:23,006 --> 00:09:26,006 uh, "It's not a conspiracy. It's just Arkansas." 199 00:09:26,090 --> 00:09:27,799 [Panetta] Here they are. 200 00:09:27,882 --> 00:09:29,965 They just got elected by a huge margin 201 00:09:30,048 --> 00:09:31,632 by the American people 202 00:09:31,715 --> 00:09:33,632 to the highest office in the land. 203 00:09:33,715 --> 00:09:37,298 All of the adoration, all of the acclaim, 204 00:09:37,382 --> 00:09:39,215 all of the great stories 205 00:09:39,298 --> 00:09:41,256 about what a hell of a candidate they were, 206 00:09:41,340 --> 00:09:43,674 all of that is past history. 207 00:09:43,757 --> 00:09:45,965 Suddenly, as President of the United States, 208 00:09:46,048 --> 00:09:48,924 they're finding that they're getting picked at, uh, 209 00:09:49,006 --> 00:09:53,215 in terms of, uh--of issues that they feel 210 00:09:53,298 --> 00:09:55,465 are not that important. 211 00:09:55,548 --> 00:09:57,965 Welcome to Washington. 212 00:10:00,590 --> 00:10:02,674 Any questions? 213 00:10:02,757 --> 00:10:05,632 [female reporter] Why was the transportation officer-- 214 00:10:05,715 --> 00:10:09,507 office fired? Looks like a massacre. 215 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:13,298 And, uh, is the FBI, um, investigating, 216 00:10:13,382 --> 00:10:16,674 and, uh, did the president do this? 217 00:10:16,757 --> 00:10:18,256 [Schmidt] Travelgate is sort of 218 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:21,423 a quintessentially Arkansas kind of story. 219 00:10:21,507 --> 00:10:25,256 Bill Clinton's cousin Catherine Cornelius 220 00:10:25,340 --> 00:10:28,048 was handling some of the travel arrangements 221 00:10:28,131 --> 00:10:29,924 for the campaign itself. 222 00:10:30,006 --> 00:10:32,548 They got to the White House, and they decided 223 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:34,965 the White House Travel Office, which arranges travel 224 00:10:35,048 --> 00:10:37,715 for reporters accompanying the president-- 225 00:10:37,799 --> 00:10:39,548 they wanted to just take it over. 226 00:10:39,632 --> 00:10:41,131 [male reporter] The president has spoken frequently 227 00:10:41,215 --> 00:10:44,131 about there being a crisis of confidence in government. 228 00:10:44,215 --> 00:10:48,048 What does it say to that if this woman who is a cousin 229 00:10:48,131 --> 00:10:50,048 of the president is appointed to head the office? 230 00:10:50,131 --> 00:10:52,548 It is a distant cousin, first of all, let me point out. 231 00:10:52,632 --> 00:10:54,382 - Second of all... - [reporters clamoring] 232 00:10:54,465 --> 00:10:56,298 Well, it-it is, okay? It is. 233 00:10:56,382 --> 00:10:57,715 And second of all, she-- 234 00:10:57,799 --> 00:10:58,757 [female reporter] What's distant? 235 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,256 Let's define our terms. 236 00:11:00,340 --> 00:11:01,632 I-I don't have the exact family tree 237 00:11:01,715 --> 00:11:03,423 available right now, but she... 238 00:11:03,507 --> 00:11:06,131 [Gormley] The Travelgate episode, in my view, 239 00:11:06,215 --> 00:11:08,799 was a tempest in the teapot. 240 00:11:08,882 --> 00:11:10,507 In the end, the Clinton administration 241 00:11:10,590 --> 00:11:12,382 did its own little investigation. 242 00:11:12,465 --> 00:11:15,340 There were mild reprimands issued, and that was it. 243 00:11:15,423 --> 00:11:18,382 So this did not turn into anything significant. 244 00:11:18,465 --> 00:11:21,965 But it was part of the constant drumbeat in the early stages 245 00:11:22,048 --> 00:11:24,674 of the Clinton administration of, you know, 246 00:11:24,757 --> 00:11:27,715 uh, just minor corruption that sort of fuel-- 247 00:11:27,799 --> 00:11:31,757 primed the pump for what came after it. 248 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,757 [Isikoff] To give a cloak of legitimacy to the firing 249 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,715 of these travel office workers, 250 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:38,465 the White House announced there would be 251 00:11:38,548 --> 00:11:41,090 an FBI investigation. 252 00:11:41,173 --> 00:11:45,382 And it was very clear, uh, the FBI resented 253 00:11:45,465 --> 00:11:47,590 the, uh, effort by the White House 254 00:11:47,674 --> 00:11:50,256 to use the FBI 255 00:11:50,340 --> 00:11:52,799 to justify what they had done. 256 00:11:52,882 --> 00:11:55,131 I think it kind of set the tone 257 00:11:55,215 --> 00:11:57,590 for much that was to come after. 258 00:11:57,674 --> 00:12:00,590 [helicopter rotors whirring] 259 00:12:00,674 --> 00:12:03,590 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 260 00:12:03,674 --> 00:12:05,507 [Weiner] Nineteen ninety-three, 261 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:07,674 the FBI's in bad shape. 262 00:12:07,757 --> 00:12:10,924 There was the disastrous confrontation 263 00:12:11,006 --> 00:12:14,215 with the millennial Branch Davidian cult 264 00:12:14,298 --> 00:12:16,674 down in Waco, Texas. 265 00:12:16,757 --> 00:12:19,090 [Gorelick] In the aftermath of Waco, 266 00:12:19,173 --> 00:12:22,882 right-wing militias and other right-wing groups 267 00:12:22,965 --> 00:12:25,548 suggested that our-- that law enforcement 268 00:12:25,632 --> 00:12:29,215 in the United States were... were jackbooted thugs. 269 00:12:29,298 --> 00:12:31,882 [man] A standoff between a man who is wanted by the FBI 270 00:12:31,965 --> 00:12:33,590 and a large number of federal agents 271 00:12:33,674 --> 00:12:35,465 in a remote section of Idaho. 272 00:12:35,548 --> 00:12:37,256 Two people have already died. 273 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:38,882 [man 2] During the standoff, an FBI sharpshooter 274 00:12:38,965 --> 00:12:40,465 killed Weaver's wife. 275 00:12:40,548 --> 00:12:44,090 It's hard to overstate the chaos 276 00:12:44,173 --> 00:12:46,882 of the initial months of the Clinton presidency. 277 00:12:46,965 --> 00:12:48,674 They're really scrambling. 278 00:12:48,757 --> 00:12:51,632 It shows when Clinton goes through one choice 279 00:12:51,715 --> 00:12:54,298 for attorney general, she has nanny problems. 280 00:12:54,382 --> 00:12:56,382 Second choice for attorney general, 281 00:12:56,465 --> 00:12:58,090 she has nanny problems. 282 00:12:58,173 --> 00:13:00,715 Third choice is Janet Reno, 283 00:13:00,799 --> 00:13:03,715 and she has no nanny problems because she has no kids. 284 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:06,215 I made the decision. I'm accountable. 285 00:13:06,298 --> 00:13:08,131 The buck stops with me. 286 00:13:08,215 --> 00:13:10,507 And nobody ever accused me of running from a decision 287 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:13,423 that I made based on the best information that I had. 288 00:13:13,507 --> 00:13:16,590 [Hubbell] She was a tough prosecutor from Miami. 289 00:13:16,674 --> 00:13:18,840 She had nothing in her background 290 00:13:18,924 --> 00:13:22,048 that would indicate there was any problem whatsoever 291 00:13:22,131 --> 00:13:23,590 in confirmation. 292 00:13:23,674 --> 00:13:25,340 And we thought we had hit a home run. 293 00:13:25,423 --> 00:13:28,131 She came up and went through a vetting process 294 00:13:28,215 --> 00:13:30,382 in a law firm here in Washington. 295 00:13:30,465 --> 00:13:33,256 White House Counsel Bernie Nussbaum says, 296 00:13:33,340 --> 00:13:35,340 "So I guess y'all are recommending her." 297 00:13:35,423 --> 00:13:37,507 And they go, "No, we recommend that she-- 298 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:39,298 the president not appoint her." 299 00:13:39,382 --> 00:13:41,715 And-and Bernie goes, "Why?" 300 00:13:41,799 --> 00:13:44,131 And they said, "She's too clean. 301 00:13:44,215 --> 00:13:45,924 There's gotta be something here we haven't found." 302 00:13:46,006 --> 00:13:47,507 [laughs] 303 00:13:47,590 --> 00:13:48,840 Washington wasn't ready to have somebody 304 00:13:48,924 --> 00:13:50,507 who had nothing in their background 305 00:13:50,590 --> 00:13:52,298 that they could find wrong. 306 00:13:53,340 --> 00:13:57,965 My hope is, my country will have been strengthened 307 00:13:58,048 --> 00:14:00,799 and enriched by my service. 308 00:14:00,882 --> 00:14:03,090 [Weiner] The FBI director, William Sessions, 309 00:14:03,173 --> 00:14:07,340 had been correctly accused of petty corruption. 310 00:14:07,423 --> 00:14:11,006 Reno helps stiffen Clinton's spine 311 00:14:11,090 --> 00:14:13,340 to push out Sessions. 312 00:14:13,423 --> 00:14:17,173 And the search for a successor 313 00:14:17,256 --> 00:14:18,965 is hurried. 314 00:14:19,048 --> 00:14:21,340 [Clinton] Today I am pleased to nominate 315 00:14:21,423 --> 00:14:23,256 a law enforcement legend 316 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:25,173 to be the director of the FBI, 317 00:14:25,256 --> 00:14:27,590 Judge Louis Freeh. 318 00:14:27,674 --> 00:14:30,215 Judge Freeh knows the FBI. 319 00:14:30,298 --> 00:14:33,173 He is a highly decorated former agent and supervisor. 320 00:14:33,256 --> 00:14:35,507 He has investigated and prosecuted 321 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:39,423 some of the most notorious and complex crimes of our time. 322 00:14:39,507 --> 00:14:41,382 - Judge Freeh. - Thank you very much. 323 00:14:41,465 --> 00:14:43,173 - [applause] - That's very nice. 324 00:14:43,256 --> 00:14:46,173 [Weiner] Freeh pops up on everybody's chart 325 00:14:46,256 --> 00:14:48,548 as someone who really looks good on paper. 326 00:14:48,632 --> 00:14:50,465 And he does. 327 00:14:50,548 --> 00:14:52,048 There wasn't a lot of interviewing. 328 00:14:52,131 --> 00:14:53,423 There wasn't a lot of vetting. 329 00:14:53,507 --> 00:14:55,340 It's like, "This guy looks good. 330 00:14:55,423 --> 00:14:57,006 Let's put him in." 331 00:14:57,090 --> 00:14:59,382 I was born in Jersey City, and from about the age 332 00:14:59,465 --> 00:15:02,632 of my eldest son, I wanted to be an FBI agent. 333 00:15:02,715 --> 00:15:06,131 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 334 00:15:06,215 --> 00:15:08,423 [Weiner] Louis Freeh's a working-class guy, 335 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:10,590 Roman Catholic choirboy growing up, 336 00:15:10,674 --> 00:15:13,799 and an altar boy in not only training but in demeanor 337 00:15:13,882 --> 00:15:15,590 as an adult. 338 00:15:15,674 --> 00:15:17,840 He's young. He's 43. 339 00:15:17,924 --> 00:15:20,423 A fresh face. Highly qualified. 340 00:15:20,507 --> 00:15:25,173 [Gorelick] Director Freeh was a so-called brick agent, 341 00:15:25,256 --> 00:15:28,256 meaning he started off in life as an agent. 342 00:15:28,340 --> 00:15:30,340 He ultimately became a prosecutor, 343 00:15:30,423 --> 00:15:31,924 a very well-known prosecutor. 344 00:15:32,006 --> 00:15:33,799 He ultimately became a judge. 345 00:15:33,882 --> 00:15:36,507 But in his DNA 346 00:15:36,590 --> 00:15:40,006 was the DNA of a brick agent. 347 00:15:40,090 --> 00:15:41,715 And he brought that perspective 348 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:43,632 to his role as director. 349 00:15:43,715 --> 00:15:45,757 [Weiner] His worldview 350 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,382 is about violations of criminal law. 351 00:15:48,465 --> 00:15:49,882 He's not a politician. 352 00:15:49,965 --> 00:15:52,215 He's not a Washington insider. 353 00:15:52,298 --> 00:15:54,674 And he turned out to be 354 00:15:54,757 --> 00:15:58,423 a very bad fit inside the Clinton administration. 355 00:15:58,507 --> 00:16:00,090 I, Louis J. Freeh... 356 00:16:00,173 --> 00:16:01,632 I, Louis J. Freeh... 357 00:16:01,715 --> 00:16:03,090 ...do solemnly swear... 358 00:16:03,173 --> 00:16:05,298 ...do solemnly swear... 359 00:16:05,382 --> 00:16:09,006 [Schmidt] Director Freeh had a very tense relationship 360 00:16:09,090 --> 00:16:11,215 with the Clinton White House. 361 00:16:11,298 --> 00:16:13,674 I mean, they basically didn't like each other. 362 00:16:13,757 --> 00:16:15,173 That's-that's for sure. 363 00:16:15,256 --> 00:16:17,882 To fully understand the relationship between 364 00:16:17,965 --> 00:16:21,298 Louis Freeh and President Clinton, 365 00:16:21,382 --> 00:16:23,757 you have to understand Louis Freeh. 366 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,298 [camera shutter clicking] 367 00:16:25,382 --> 00:16:26,840 [La Bella] He's one of the straightest shooters 368 00:16:26,924 --> 00:16:28,382 that you ever want to meet. 369 00:16:28,465 --> 00:16:30,674 He's one of those people who, 370 00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:32,632 if he tells you something, 371 00:16:32,715 --> 00:16:34,382 you say, "Oh, okay. 372 00:16:34,465 --> 00:16:37,215 I'm betting my child's life on this because 373 00:16:37,298 --> 00:16:39,090 it's coming from Louis." 374 00:16:39,173 --> 00:16:41,215 It's just--it's who he is. 375 00:16:41,298 --> 00:16:43,340 I don't care how much money you threw at him, 376 00:16:43,423 --> 00:16:45,507 how much power you threw at him. 377 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:48,882 Louis would never compromise his principles. 378 00:16:48,965 --> 00:16:51,632 I think people know Bill Clinton. 379 00:16:51,715 --> 00:16:52,882 [camera shutter clicking] 380 00:16:52,965 --> 00:16:54,799 [Weiner] And in his first days 381 00:16:54,882 --> 00:16:56,465 as FBI director, 382 00:16:56,548 --> 00:16:59,215 things get off on the wrong foot. 383 00:16:59,298 --> 00:17:02,674 Freeh learns immediately that the FBI has 384 00:17:02,757 --> 00:17:04,924 a criminal investigation going on 385 00:17:05,006 --> 00:17:07,048 pertaining to real estate dealings 386 00:17:07,131 --> 00:17:09,674 in the state of Arkansas, uh, 387 00:17:09,757 --> 00:17:12,048 while, uh, Clinton was governor. 388 00:17:12,131 --> 00:17:15,131 And he sees Clinton 389 00:17:15,215 --> 00:17:19,006 as a suspect in a criminal case. 390 00:17:19,090 --> 00:17:21,548 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 391 00:17:21,632 --> 00:17:23,882 [man] In a nutshell, what was the story of Whitewater? 392 00:17:23,965 --> 00:17:25,507 [laughs] 393 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:27,423 I was afraid you were gonna ask me that. 394 00:17:27,507 --> 00:17:29,882 Um, not--I mean, I knew you were gonna ask me that. 395 00:17:30,006 --> 00:17:34,298 But it's not easily, um, uh, summarized. 396 00:17:34,382 --> 00:17:37,173 [man] Can you tell me in a couple of sentences 397 00:17:37,256 --> 00:17:38,924 what is Whitewater? 398 00:17:39,006 --> 00:17:40,298 [sighs] 399 00:17:40,382 --> 00:17:41,924 [laughs] 400 00:17:42,006 --> 00:17:43,256 [sniffs] 401 00:17:43,340 --> 00:17:48,256 ♪♪♪ 402 00:17:49,382 --> 00:17:51,048 Wow. 403 00:17:51,131 --> 00:17:55,256 In Arkansas, Bill Clinton had become friends 404 00:17:55,340 --> 00:17:58,924 with a gentleman named Jim McDougal. 405 00:17:59,006 --> 00:18:02,423 He was a very eccentric man, by all accounts. 406 00:18:02,507 --> 00:18:07,340 And he began investing in real estate deals. 407 00:18:07,423 --> 00:18:11,340 And the one that excited him the most was this beautiful 408 00:18:11,423 --> 00:18:14,382 piece of property up in the Ozark Mountains 409 00:18:14,465 --> 00:18:17,507 that came to be known as Whitewater. 410 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:21,840 He wanted Clinton, who was likely to be the next governor, 411 00:18:21,924 --> 00:18:23,840 to be part of this deal. 412 00:18:23,924 --> 00:18:25,965 The Clintons put no money down. 413 00:18:26,048 --> 00:18:28,090 It was a small investment. 414 00:18:28,173 --> 00:18:31,632 But the Whitewater development was on the wrong side 415 00:18:31,715 --> 00:18:33,799 of the White River to be successful, 416 00:18:33,882 --> 00:18:36,674 and it started losing money quickly. 417 00:18:36,757 --> 00:18:38,382 Jim McDougal hid that 418 00:18:38,465 --> 00:18:40,256 from the Clintons and other investors, 419 00:18:40,340 --> 00:18:41,965 and so he went on to buy a bank 420 00:18:42,048 --> 00:18:45,548 called Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan. 421 00:18:45,632 --> 00:18:47,173 Jim started using some of the money 422 00:18:47,256 --> 00:18:48,674 of the Savings & Loan 423 00:18:48,757 --> 00:18:50,757 to pay off the interest or the debt 424 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,382 of the--of the Whitewater. 425 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:57,090 McDougal's Savings & Loan, uh, lost $60 million, 426 00:18:57,173 --> 00:19:00,006 and it was because of sham dealings-- 427 00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:02,256 real estate transactions. 428 00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:05,090 [man] Did McDougal improperly channel money from the S&L 429 00:19:05,173 --> 00:19:07,048 to the Whitewater development 430 00:19:07,131 --> 00:19:10,423 or to help pay then-governor Clinton's campaign debts? 431 00:19:10,507 --> 00:19:12,632 And did McDougal's Savings & Loan 432 00:19:12,715 --> 00:19:15,131 escape close scrutiny by the state 433 00:19:15,215 --> 00:19:16,840 because of his friendship and partnership 434 00:19:16,924 --> 00:19:18,674 with Governor Clinton? 435 00:19:18,757 --> 00:19:19,965 It was just so complicated, 436 00:19:20,048 --> 00:19:22,382 and there wasn't much of substance 437 00:19:22,465 --> 00:19:25,173 in terms of the Clintons' behavior in all of that. 438 00:19:25,256 --> 00:19:27,382 And so it had really just fallen 439 00:19:27,465 --> 00:19:30,173 to a little ember in the coals. 440 00:19:30,256 --> 00:19:32,382 And then all of a sudden... 441 00:19:32,465 --> 00:19:34,215 [gunshot] 442 00:19:34,298 --> 00:19:35,590 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 443 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,173 [radio tuning] 444 00:19:37,256 --> 00:19:38,674 [woman 2] ...the apparent suicide 445 00:19:38,757 --> 00:19:40,298 of White House lawyer Vince Foster. 446 00:19:40,382 --> 00:19:42,090 Bits of information gradually... 447 00:19:42,173 --> 00:19:43,423 [man] The number two lawyer at the White House, 448 00:19:43,507 --> 00:19:44,507 Foster was one of Bill Clinton's oldest 449 00:19:44,590 --> 00:19:45,757 and closest friends. 450 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,256 His body was found last night. 451 00:19:47,340 --> 00:19:50,340 It appears he shot himself. 452 00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:53,465 [Hubbell] Vince Foster was our partner at the Rose Law Firm. 453 00:19:53,548 --> 00:19:57,173 He came to Washington as the deputy White House counsel. 454 00:19:57,256 --> 00:20:01,340 He was very close, uh, to both Hillary and myself, 455 00:20:01,423 --> 00:20:04,465 as we practiced law together for 20 years, 456 00:20:04,548 --> 00:20:06,465 seeing each other every day. 457 00:20:06,548 --> 00:20:11,507 And tragically, uh, he committed suicide in July of-- 458 00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:15,090 I think it was July of our first year there. 459 00:20:15,173 --> 00:20:19,048 He went to Fort Marcy Park, a Civil War, uh, park 460 00:20:19,131 --> 00:20:20,507 just across the Potomac River, 461 00:20:20,590 --> 00:20:24,048 and pulled out a gun and shot himself. 462 00:20:24,131 --> 00:20:27,632 It really knocked the White House for a loop. 463 00:20:27,715 --> 00:20:31,882 And the Clintons, um, and the people--their friends-- 464 00:20:31,965 --> 00:20:34,507 it was devastating. 465 00:20:34,590 --> 00:20:36,632 Good afternoon. 466 00:20:36,715 --> 00:20:40,590 I have just met with the White House staff, 467 00:20:40,674 --> 00:20:44,298 um, to basically talk with them a little bit about the death 468 00:20:44,382 --> 00:20:49,465 of my friend of 42 years, Vince Foster. 469 00:20:49,548 --> 00:20:53,674 It is an immense personal loss to-to me and to Hillary 470 00:20:53,757 --> 00:20:57,173 and to many of his close friends here 471 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,799 and a great loss to the White House and to the country. 472 00:21:00,882 --> 00:21:05,382 [Isikoff] This kind of took on a little greater significance 473 00:21:05,465 --> 00:21:08,173 when it became clear that Hillary Clinton 474 00:21:08,256 --> 00:21:11,131 had blamed Vince Foster 475 00:21:11,215 --> 00:21:15,090 for the handling of the travel office matter. 476 00:21:15,173 --> 00:21:18,048 Hillary Clinton had snapped at Vince Foster, uh, 477 00:21:18,131 --> 00:21:21,006 indicated that he had blown it in some way. 478 00:21:21,090 --> 00:21:23,590 And, um, this contributed 479 00:21:23,674 --> 00:21:28,423 to some serious, um, depression he was having at the time. 480 00:21:28,507 --> 00:21:33,131 [Schmidt] There was a suicide note that was found. 481 00:21:33,215 --> 00:21:35,090 One of the things he wrote was, 482 00:21:35,173 --> 00:21:37,548 "I'm not meant for this life in Washington. 483 00:21:37,632 --> 00:21:41,715 Here, ruining people is, uh, considered sport." 484 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:43,548 [man] A file on the Whitewater development 485 00:21:43,632 --> 00:21:45,256 in which the Clintons invested 486 00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:47,048 was taken from Vincent Foster's 487 00:21:47,131 --> 00:21:49,799 White House office immediately after his suicide. 488 00:21:49,882 --> 00:21:51,715 The White House said it was personal Clinton business 489 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:54,173 and gave it to the president's private lawyer. 490 00:21:54,256 --> 00:21:56,173 Foster had the files because he handled 491 00:21:56,256 --> 00:21:58,006 President Clinton's legal work 492 00:21:58,090 --> 00:22:00,799 involving an Arkansas land development company. 493 00:22:00,882 --> 00:22:04,590 Vince Foster's death, that's when people started 494 00:22:04,674 --> 00:22:06,215 saying, "Wait a minute. 495 00:22:06,298 --> 00:22:09,006 He's the one who had the Whitewater documents. 496 00:22:09,090 --> 00:22:10,423 Wait a minute. This was-- 497 00:22:10,507 --> 00:22:12,882 The Clintons were involved in a conspiracy." 498 00:22:12,965 --> 00:22:16,298 I want to tell my friends and my colleagues now 499 00:22:16,382 --> 00:22:18,090 why I believe there's a connection between 500 00:22:18,173 --> 00:22:21,215 Vince Foster's death and the Whitewater investigation 501 00:22:21,298 --> 00:22:23,548 that's not being pursued. 502 00:22:23,632 --> 00:22:25,215 First of all, he died under 503 00:22:25,298 --> 00:22:26,840 very mysterious-mysterious circumstances. 504 00:22:26,924 --> 00:22:29,048 His body was moved. There's no question about it. 505 00:22:29,131 --> 00:22:30,465 And yet nobody accepts that. 506 00:22:30,548 --> 00:22:33,548 [Gormley] There were dark allegations 507 00:22:33,632 --> 00:22:36,715 that the Clintons had been involved in his death. 508 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:40,048 I contacted a ballistics expert in California who stated 509 00:22:40,131 --> 00:22:42,048 that after passing through a man's skull, 510 00:22:42,131 --> 00:22:44,840 a .38-caliber bullet should travel no more than 511 00:22:44,924 --> 00:22:48,882 1,200 to 1,600 feet, or about 300 to 500 yards. 512 00:22:48,965 --> 00:22:50,965 The FBI should have been able to find that bullet. 513 00:22:51,048 --> 00:22:52,757 [gunshot] 514 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,256 [splattering] 515 00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:57,298 [Isikoff] Dan Burton was so fascinated 516 00:22:57,382 --> 00:22:58,882 by these conspiracy theories, 517 00:22:58,965 --> 00:23:02,256 he shot a watermelon in his backyard 518 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:04,799 to sort of reenact why Vince Foster 519 00:23:04,882 --> 00:23:06,382 could not have killed himself 520 00:23:06,465 --> 00:23:09,632 in the way multiple government investigations 521 00:23:09,715 --> 00:23:11,799 firmly concluded he did. 522 00:23:11,882 --> 00:23:14,423 I don't know whether Vince Foster, 523 00:23:14,507 --> 00:23:17,090 uh, died of suicide or not. 524 00:23:17,173 --> 00:23:19,340 I-I just don't know. 525 00:23:19,423 --> 00:23:22,048 But I'm convinced in my mind that he did not die 526 00:23:22,131 --> 00:23:23,840 at Fort Marcy Park. 527 00:23:23,924 --> 00:23:25,340 I don't know whether he committed suicide 528 00:23:25,423 --> 00:23:26,799 or what happened. 529 00:23:26,882 --> 00:23:27,840 The fact that he killed himself 530 00:23:27,924 --> 00:23:29,131 is not in dispute 531 00:23:29,215 --> 00:23:30,882 and has never been in dispute 532 00:23:30,965 --> 00:23:32,548 among sane people. 533 00:23:32,632 --> 00:23:34,465 It's crazy. 534 00:23:34,548 --> 00:23:37,423 And-and can you imagine how horrible that is 535 00:23:37,507 --> 00:23:40,548 for the people-- especially his family-- 536 00:23:40,632 --> 00:23:42,090 to think that that happened 537 00:23:42,173 --> 00:23:44,715 or-or even hear those words? 538 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,548 I mean, they-they're having enough of a hard time. 539 00:23:47,632 --> 00:23:50,382 I'm still having enough of a hard time 540 00:23:50,465 --> 00:23:52,423 thinking about somebody who committed suicide. 541 00:23:52,507 --> 00:23:55,674 You always think, "What could I have done to change that?" 542 00:23:55,757 --> 00:23:57,131 And to hear all these conspiracy theories 543 00:23:57,215 --> 00:23:59,173 is just awful. 544 00:24:00,548 --> 00:24:03,173 [Gormley] This was horrifying to Bill and Hillary Clinton. 545 00:24:03,256 --> 00:24:05,465 They were grieving at the same time 546 00:24:05,548 --> 00:24:08,548 these dark conspiracies were being floated. 547 00:24:08,632 --> 00:24:10,715 But it was connecting all of these dots. 548 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,674 As one person said, 549 00:24:12,757 --> 00:24:15,382 people started connecting dots that didn't connect. 550 00:24:15,465 --> 00:24:18,674 And that's really what fanned Whitewater 551 00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:21,090 and the whole investigation back to life. 552 00:24:21,173 --> 00:24:23,382 [reverse splattering] 553 00:24:23,465 --> 00:24:25,882 Now leading congressional Republicans are asking 554 00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,382 for independent investigations. 555 00:24:28,465 --> 00:24:32,465 Seems to me that there ought to be some independent review. 556 00:24:32,548 --> 00:24:35,298 Otherwise, uh, I think the Democrats control the House. 557 00:24:35,382 --> 00:24:37,548 They control the Senate. They control the White House. 558 00:24:37,632 --> 00:24:39,215 The American people are gonna start asking questions, 559 00:24:39,298 --> 00:24:40,924 "Why can't we have the facts?" 560 00:24:41,006 --> 00:24:42,382 Mr. President, do you support the idea 561 00:24:42,465 --> 00:24:44,674 of naming a, uh, special prosecutor 562 00:24:44,757 --> 00:24:46,465 for the Whitewat-- to investigate 563 00:24:46,548 --> 00:24:48,048 the Whitewater affair? 564 00:24:48,131 --> 00:24:49,715 I have nothing to say about that. 565 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:51,465 I've-I've said that we would turn the records over. 566 00:24:51,548 --> 00:24:53,048 There's nothing else for me to say about that. 567 00:24:53,131 --> 00:24:55,423 [man] What is your thinking now on the public release 568 00:24:55,507 --> 00:24:57,632 of documents and an independent counsel? 569 00:24:57,715 --> 00:24:59,632 Well, first of all, my thinking is that this is a situation 570 00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:01,757 without precedent in American history. 571 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,298 Drop a--you seemed to drop a hint there-- 572 00:25:03,382 --> 00:25:04,632 Sorry, you got the two questions, Jim. 573 00:25:04,715 --> 00:25:05,924 - Okay. - You had your two questions. 574 00:25:06,006 --> 00:25:07,423 All righty. 575 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:09,548 I'm sorry you're not interested in the truth. 576 00:25:09,632 --> 00:25:11,423 At that point, we'd been through 577 00:25:11,507 --> 00:25:14,507 the throes of, uh-- of Watergate, 578 00:25:14,590 --> 00:25:19,256 the throes of, uh, Irangate. [chuckles] 579 00:25:19,340 --> 00:25:23,465 And the Congress, uh, had decided 580 00:25:23,548 --> 00:25:27,715 that it was important, uh, to be able to have 581 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:31,548 a special counsel to conduct 582 00:25:31,632 --> 00:25:33,965 those kinds of investigations. 583 00:25:34,048 --> 00:25:36,090 And I remember going in to the president 584 00:25:36,173 --> 00:25:39,965 and telling him that Congress had passed that legislation. 585 00:25:40,048 --> 00:25:42,674 I said, "Look, I don't think you wanna be viewed 586 00:25:42,757 --> 00:25:45,674 as rejecting this kind of proposal. 587 00:25:45,757 --> 00:25:49,215 For you as president, uh, it would convey the impression 588 00:25:49,298 --> 00:25:51,715 that somehow you might have something to hide." 589 00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:53,840 You could see he was concerned. 590 00:25:53,924 --> 00:25:56,465 He said, "Passing this legislation could come back 591 00:25:56,548 --> 00:26:00,006 to not only haunt me but haunt other presidents as well." 592 00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:03,048 But at the same time, I think he also recognized 593 00:26:03,131 --> 00:26:04,882 that in the end, he really didn't have much choice 594 00:26:04,965 --> 00:26:07,632 but to sign that legislation. 595 00:26:07,715 --> 00:26:10,799 [man] Do you think he ever regretted that he signed it? 596 00:26:10,882 --> 00:26:13,465 Oh, I'm sure there were moments where, you know, 597 00:26:13,548 --> 00:26:15,548 he might have, uh-- he might have thought, 598 00:26:15,632 --> 00:26:17,256 "It would have been a lot better, uh, 599 00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:19,548 if I had not done it." 600 00:26:19,632 --> 00:26:21,465 [man] Kenneth Starr arrived at the office 601 00:26:21,548 --> 00:26:23,965 of the independent counsel at 3:30 602 00:26:24,048 --> 00:26:25,674 but had little to say. 603 00:26:25,757 --> 00:26:27,382 [male reporter] Can you talk to us, sir? 604 00:26:27,465 --> 00:26:28,799 No, I won't be making any, uh, statement. 605 00:26:28,882 --> 00:26:30,465 [man] He's a Republican, 606 00:26:30,548 --> 00:26:31,799 having served as solicitor general 607 00:26:31,882 --> 00:26:33,882 in the Bush administration. 608 00:26:33,965 --> 00:26:36,548 He's here to take the Whitewater investigation. 609 00:26:36,632 --> 00:26:38,715 [Starr] I had a sense that investigating 610 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:40,507 the President of the United States 611 00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:44,507 was not by its nature a career-enhancing move 612 00:26:44,590 --> 00:26:47,298 and that it would likely, uh, 613 00:26:47,382 --> 00:26:49,799 be, uh, viewed, uh, 614 00:26:49,882 --> 00:26:52,465 with, uh, a lot of disdain, 615 00:26:52,548 --> 00:26:55,674 uh, anger, rancor, and so forth. 616 00:26:55,757 --> 00:26:58,507 "Hey, you're investigating my guy. 617 00:26:58,590 --> 00:27:02,298 I voted for that person. Why are you investigating him? 618 00:27:02,382 --> 00:27:04,465 You must be a bad person." [laughs] 619 00:27:04,548 --> 00:27:08,006 "You must be on a political witch hunt." [laughs] 620 00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:12,048 So I saw some of that as I peered into the future 621 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:14,465 and speculating about what it would be. 622 00:27:14,548 --> 00:27:18,799 I underestimated the intensity of the controversy. 623 00:27:18,882 --> 00:27:21,715 [camera shutters clicking] 624 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:23,090 [Gormley] President Bill Clinton 625 00:27:23,173 --> 00:27:25,757 and Ken Starr represented in many ways 626 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,882 the reverse side of the same coin. 627 00:27:28,965 --> 00:27:32,173 On one sense, you had these two people who were very similar. 628 00:27:32,256 --> 00:27:35,298 They were born within several hundred miles of each other-- 629 00:27:35,382 --> 00:27:38,507 Ken Starr in Texas, Bill Clinton in Arkansas-- 630 00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,924 within ten days of each other. 631 00:27:41,006 --> 00:27:43,340 But Bill Clinton's life in Hot Springs, 632 00:27:43,423 --> 00:27:46,632 where there was gambling and people betting on ponies 633 00:27:46,715 --> 00:27:50,924 and drinking, was really the antithesis of the life 634 00:27:51,006 --> 00:27:52,757 that Ken Starr grew up in: 635 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,674 Fundamentalist Christian environment 636 00:27:55,757 --> 00:27:59,548 in a little white house planted in a cow pasture. 637 00:27:59,632 --> 00:28:01,840 Ken Starr worked on Capitol Hill 638 00:28:01,924 --> 00:28:05,423 for a conservative Texan member of Congress 639 00:28:05,507 --> 00:28:07,965 and was the youngest person 640 00:28:08,048 --> 00:28:11,924 ever appointed to the U.S. Court of Appeals in D.C. 641 00:28:12,006 --> 00:28:14,799 So both of them are self-made men 642 00:28:14,882 --> 00:28:16,507 who rise to the top of their professions 643 00:28:16,590 --> 00:28:18,548 at a very young age, 644 00:28:18,632 --> 00:28:22,173 and the collision between them is even more tragic 645 00:28:22,256 --> 00:28:25,423 when you see, uh, the-the train wreck 646 00:28:25,507 --> 00:28:27,423 at the end of the story. 647 00:28:28,465 --> 00:28:30,674 [Starr] There are a number of persons, 648 00:28:30,757 --> 00:28:33,548 including most recently Mr. McDougal, 649 00:28:33,632 --> 00:28:36,965 who have entered into discussions 650 00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:39,590 with the government in our ongoing effort 651 00:28:39,674 --> 00:28:41,632 to understand all the facts. 652 00:28:41,715 --> 00:28:45,298 We have made very substantial progress in this investigation, 653 00:28:45,382 --> 00:28:48,757 and at the same time, our investigation is going forward. 654 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,799 [Schmidt] Starr and the others were running the show. 655 00:28:51,882 --> 00:28:55,465 But Freeh never balked about 656 00:28:55,548 --> 00:28:57,256 supplying as many agents 657 00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:59,840 and as much help as Starr asked for. 658 00:28:59,924 --> 00:29:03,006 [Weiner] Louis Freeh is all but measuring 659 00:29:03,090 --> 00:29:05,840 the commander in chief for prison stripes. 660 00:29:05,924 --> 00:29:08,340 He cannot help but see the president through 661 00:29:08,423 --> 00:29:10,465 any other prism. 662 00:29:10,548 --> 00:29:13,298 And frankly, it distorts his judgment. 663 00:29:13,382 --> 00:29:16,048 He turns in his White House pass. 664 00:29:16,131 --> 00:29:19,674 He refuses to set foot in the White House. 665 00:29:19,757 --> 00:29:22,465 And he cuts off communication 666 00:29:22,548 --> 00:29:25,090 with the President of the United States. 667 00:29:25,173 --> 00:29:29,924 Clinton definitely felt that 668 00:29:30,006 --> 00:29:32,090 "that effing Freeh," as he put it, 669 00:29:32,173 --> 00:29:34,131 was out to get him. 670 00:29:34,215 --> 00:29:35,757 Now, you're the President of the United States. 671 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,840 You got a lot on your plate. 672 00:29:38,924 --> 00:29:41,006 The idea that you've got a powerful member 673 00:29:41,090 --> 00:29:42,674 of your administration 674 00:29:42,757 --> 00:29:46,382 placing you in his gun sights 675 00:29:46,465 --> 00:29:48,590 is pretty unpleasant to contemplate. 676 00:29:48,674 --> 00:29:51,298 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 677 00:29:51,382 --> 00:29:54,840 A top administration aide used the word "scurrilous" today 678 00:29:54,924 --> 00:29:57,882 to describe charges made in the conservative magazine 679 00:29:57,965 --> 00:30:00,090 American Spectator that President Clinton, 680 00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:03,131 while governor of Arkansas, used state troopers 681 00:30:03,215 --> 00:30:05,632 to help arrange dates for him with a number of women. 682 00:30:05,715 --> 00:30:09,840 [Isikoff] One of the troopers made some allegation 683 00:30:09,924 --> 00:30:13,799 to bringing a woman named Paula 684 00:30:13,882 --> 00:30:17,215 to, uh, the governor's hotel room. 685 00:30:17,298 --> 00:30:19,507 He presented his-hisself to me 686 00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:22,548 in a very unprofessional manner, 687 00:30:22,632 --> 00:30:26,674 and I would call it sexual harassment. 688 00:30:26,757 --> 00:30:30,882 The graphic details were that Clinton proceeded to make 689 00:30:30,965 --> 00:30:33,799 a number of sexual advances to her, 690 00:30:33,882 --> 00:30:35,840 dropping his pants, exposing himself, 691 00:30:35,924 --> 00:30:38,048 and asking for oral sex. 692 00:30:38,131 --> 00:30:42,507 It has always been about a man who exposed himself. 693 00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:46,256 The next thing you know, she files a civil lawsuit 694 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:49,632 against the President of the United States. 695 00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:51,715 [Starr] She made allegations, 696 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,090 uh, that amounted to, under federal law, 697 00:30:54,173 --> 00:30:57,423 an alleged violation of her civil rights-- 698 00:30:57,507 --> 00:31:00,298 uh, call it sexual harassment-- 699 00:31:00,382 --> 00:31:03,340 uh, in-in the work-- in the workplace. 700 00:31:03,423 --> 00:31:07,548 It had no direct, uh, effect at the time, 701 00:31:07,632 --> 00:31:09,298 uh, on our investigation. 702 00:31:09,382 --> 00:31:11,006 That was to come. 703 00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:15,340 ♪♪♪ 704 00:31:15,423 --> 00:31:19,965 [man] What was the first time that term "gate" was applied 705 00:31:20,048 --> 00:31:23,799 to some kind of political scandal other than Watergate? 706 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:27,340 Well, I--this is not a subject I have researched. 707 00:31:27,423 --> 00:31:29,131 Gee, there were so many. Koreagate. 708 00:31:29,215 --> 00:31:30,548 There was a Koreagate, I think. 709 00:31:30,632 --> 00:31:32,882 There was Iran-Contragate. 710 00:31:32,965 --> 00:31:35,131 [man] How many gates did the Clintons have? 711 00:31:35,215 --> 00:31:37,340 [laughs] Quite a few. 712 00:31:37,423 --> 00:31:39,465 Oh, my gosh. Well, they had, uh-- 713 00:31:39,548 --> 00:31:41,799 uh, they had Travelgate. 714 00:31:41,882 --> 00:31:43,882 Monicagate. Filegate. 715 00:31:43,965 --> 00:31:45,632 You're testing my memory here. 716 00:31:45,715 --> 00:31:47,799 I don't think I'm the Filegate kind of person. 717 00:31:47,882 --> 00:31:50,256 [man] What was Filegate? 718 00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:52,715 All right, look, I am-- [scoffs] 719 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,340 Filegate. Travelgate. 720 00:31:54,423 --> 00:31:56,048 Whitewater investigation. 721 00:31:56,131 --> 00:31:58,799 None of that amounted to absolutely anything. 722 00:31:58,882 --> 00:32:00,674 There were no crimes committed. 723 00:32:00,757 --> 00:32:02,882 Uh, there were, you know, 724 00:32:02,965 --> 00:32:04,924 perhaps mistakes of judgment made. 725 00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:08,590 But much of it was just downright silly, 726 00:32:08,674 --> 00:32:10,674 a waste of taxpayers' money, 727 00:32:10,757 --> 00:32:13,006 uh, and an exercise in partisanship. 728 00:32:13,090 --> 00:32:16,674 Nothing ever gets pinned on the Clintons. 729 00:32:16,757 --> 00:32:21,674 Nevertheless, there's a continual hue and cry. 730 00:32:21,757 --> 00:32:26,090 The call of the bloodhounds arises every morning 731 00:32:26,173 --> 00:32:28,215 with the idea that there's something there. 732 00:32:28,298 --> 00:32:30,465 There must be something there. 733 00:32:30,548 --> 00:32:31,340 ♪♪♪ 734 00:32:31,423 --> 00:32:32,924 [gavel banging] 735 00:32:33,006 --> 00:32:35,340 There apparently was a systematic influx 736 00:32:35,423 --> 00:32:40,173 of illegal money in our presidential race last year. 737 00:32:40,256 --> 00:32:43,507 We will be wanting to know who knew about it, 738 00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:45,382 who should have known about it, and whether or not 739 00:32:45,465 --> 00:32:47,465 there was an attempt to cover it up. 740 00:32:47,548 --> 00:32:50,590 [Weiner] There was a broad accusation 741 00:32:50,674 --> 00:32:55,548 that the government of the People's Republic of China 742 00:32:55,632 --> 00:32:59,382 was attempting to buy influence in the Clinton White House 743 00:32:59,465 --> 00:33:02,590 by funneling cash into the president's reelection campaign 744 00:33:02,674 --> 00:33:04,715 in 1996. 745 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,590 And Bill Clinton forcefully said, 746 00:33:07,674 --> 00:33:09,548 "There's nothing here." 747 00:33:09,632 --> 00:33:12,757 And Louis Freeh... 748 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,256 said the White House was lying. 749 00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:17,507 [man] Fund-raising practices by the president 750 00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:19,757 involving foreign contributors 751 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,465 are being looked into by the Justice Department. 752 00:33:22,548 --> 00:33:25,715 [Barr] Foreign influence and particularly foreign money 753 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:30,173 provides opportunity for blackmail, 754 00:33:30,256 --> 00:33:34,048 avenues for national security information 755 00:33:34,131 --> 00:33:36,298 to be sold abroad. 756 00:33:36,382 --> 00:33:39,507 So anytime that you have serious allegations 757 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:44,006 of direct foreign meddling in an election, 758 00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:46,507 it should be taken very seriously. 759 00:33:46,590 --> 00:33:48,840 [Lampinski] My marching orders from Director Freeh 760 00:33:48,924 --> 00:33:51,548 was to follow the evidence wherever it led. 761 00:33:51,632 --> 00:33:53,173 Now, one thing he did want-- 762 00:33:53,256 --> 00:33:56,006 and he was very specific about this-- 763 00:33:56,090 --> 00:34:00,298 was that he wanted us to go directly at what he considered 764 00:34:00,382 --> 00:34:03,090 the core group: the president himself, 765 00:34:03,173 --> 00:34:05,006 the vice president, leadership within 766 00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:07,882 the Democratic National Committee. 767 00:34:07,965 --> 00:34:09,924 We learned through 768 00:34:10,006 --> 00:34:11,840 tracing the money through grand jury subpoenas 769 00:34:11,924 --> 00:34:13,340 that these people that contributed 770 00:34:13,423 --> 00:34:14,882 to the Democratic National Committee 771 00:34:14,965 --> 00:34:16,298 were not the true donors. 772 00:34:16,382 --> 00:34:18,131 These donors were reimbursed through cash. 773 00:34:18,215 --> 00:34:19,757 If you went to the source of the cash, 774 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,548 you found that that money came in 775 00:34:21,632 --> 00:34:24,131 typically through foreign wires from overseas. 776 00:34:24,215 --> 00:34:26,465 [La Bella] You would inspect the checks, 777 00:34:26,548 --> 00:34:28,924 and they'd all be dated the same day. 778 00:34:29,006 --> 00:34:31,298 They'd all have the same amount. 779 00:34:31,382 --> 00:34:33,840 And they'd all be Asian names that were associated 780 00:34:33,924 --> 00:34:35,632 with the checks. 781 00:34:35,715 --> 00:34:37,340 The one thing they were all buying 782 00:34:37,423 --> 00:34:40,173 and the one common denominator that was here 783 00:34:40,256 --> 00:34:41,632 was access. 784 00:34:41,715 --> 00:34:43,840 Access equals ability 785 00:34:43,924 --> 00:34:46,632 to get what you want done done. 786 00:34:46,715 --> 00:34:48,131 I want access to the president. 787 00:34:48,215 --> 00:34:50,131 I want access to the vice president. 788 00:34:50,215 --> 00:34:53,590 I want access to the high levels of people at the DNC. 789 00:34:54,799 --> 00:34:57,882 [Lampinski] Charlie Trie operated a Chinese restaurant 790 00:34:57,965 --> 00:35:00,840 in Little Rock and began contributing heavily 791 00:35:00,924 --> 00:35:03,465 to the Democratic National Committee. 792 00:35:03,548 --> 00:35:06,215 [La Bella] Charlie Trie was in the White House, 793 00:35:06,298 --> 00:35:10,924 and he had a bag of checks, and he gave it to them. 794 00:35:11,006 --> 00:35:13,632 Bag of checks. I mean... 795 00:35:13,715 --> 00:35:16,173 ugh! I mean, really? 796 00:35:16,256 --> 00:35:19,173 [Isikoff] John Huang, who was seeking 797 00:35:19,256 --> 00:35:21,507 Asian-American money 798 00:35:21,590 --> 00:35:25,340 that had close ties to the Chinese government 799 00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:29,548 and indeed Chinese military intelligence as well. 800 00:35:29,632 --> 00:35:32,131 We knew who the bad guys were, all right? 801 00:35:32,215 --> 00:35:34,256 We started with the-the bundlers, okay? 802 00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:36,674 And we could work up the chain. 803 00:35:36,757 --> 00:35:41,048 But unlike other cases, we can only go so high. 804 00:35:41,131 --> 00:35:44,006 There was something called the Independent Counsel Act, 805 00:35:44,090 --> 00:35:46,340 and the Independent Counsel Act was the law of the land 806 00:35:46,423 --> 00:35:48,548 at the time. It has since sunset. 807 00:35:48,632 --> 00:35:51,632 And it basically said that the Department of Justice 808 00:35:51,715 --> 00:35:56,298 cannot investigate certain covered persons. 809 00:35:56,382 --> 00:35:57,840 [Lampinski] The President of the United States, 810 00:35:57,924 --> 00:35:59,965 the vice president, cabinet-level positions 811 00:36:00,048 --> 00:36:02,090 within any administration 812 00:36:02,173 --> 00:36:05,006 were then considered covered persons 813 00:36:05,090 --> 00:36:07,215 such that if a credible and specific 814 00:36:07,298 --> 00:36:11,048 allegation of criminal misconduct was made, 815 00:36:11,131 --> 00:36:13,465 it would trigger this requirement 816 00:36:13,548 --> 00:36:16,548 that the matter be investigated by an independent counsel 817 00:36:16,632 --> 00:36:19,882 as opposed to the Department of Justice, 818 00:36:19,965 --> 00:36:22,256 uh, or the attorney general. 819 00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:25,590 Louis Freeh called forcefully for the appointment 820 00:36:25,674 --> 00:36:27,757 of yet another independent counsel 821 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,298 to look into the Chinese cash allegations. 822 00:36:31,382 --> 00:36:33,256 [Barr] Looking at all of the evidence, 823 00:36:33,340 --> 00:36:36,715 are there facts there that, as you understand them, 824 00:36:36,799 --> 00:36:41,674 indicate that covered persons may have violated federal laws? 825 00:36:41,757 --> 00:36:44,882 Under the facts and the law as I understand them to be, 826 00:36:44,965 --> 00:36:47,674 uh, the matter, in my opinion, should be referred 827 00:36:47,757 --> 00:36:49,507 to an independent counsel. 828 00:36:49,590 --> 00:36:51,090 Numerous allegations have been made 829 00:36:51,173 --> 00:36:53,507 against high government officials. 830 00:36:53,590 --> 00:36:56,006 We have reviewed every one of them to see if there's 831 00:36:56,090 --> 00:36:59,340 specific and credible information that a crime 832 00:36:59,423 --> 00:37:02,590 may have been committed by a covered person. 833 00:37:02,674 --> 00:37:06,048 Today, following the law's letter, I have decided 834 00:37:06,131 --> 00:37:08,423 that the allegations against President Clinton, 835 00:37:08,507 --> 00:37:10,465 Vice President Gore, 836 00:37:10,548 --> 00:37:13,090 and former energy secretary Hazel O'Leary 837 00:37:13,173 --> 00:37:16,048 do not at this time warrant the appointment 838 00:37:16,131 --> 00:37:17,548 of an independent counsel. 839 00:37:17,632 --> 00:37:19,298 [tape rewinding] 840 00:37:19,382 --> 00:37:21,882 Do not at this time warrant the appointment 841 00:37:21,965 --> 00:37:23,590 of an independent counsel. 842 00:37:25,131 --> 00:37:26,715 There's no doubt in my mind 843 00:37:26,799 --> 00:37:29,256 that Janet Reno was protecting the president. 844 00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:32,048 One of the things that I found very interesting-- 845 00:37:32,131 --> 00:37:35,090 which I believe to this day-- is, if you, uh, 846 00:37:35,173 --> 00:37:36,298 are going to make appointments 847 00:37:36,382 --> 00:37:38,423 as President of the United States, 848 00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:40,757 the most important appointment that you will make 849 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,340 for your cabinet or for his admin--your administration 850 00:37:43,423 --> 00:37:46,382 is the attorney general, because if the attorney general 851 00:37:46,465 --> 00:37:48,256 will cover your back and protect you, 852 00:37:48,340 --> 00:37:51,090 you can get away with almost anything. 853 00:37:51,173 --> 00:37:54,548 We can prove that foreign money was, uh, placed into 854 00:37:54,632 --> 00:37:56,382 the, uh, uh, Democratic National Committee, 855 00:37:56,465 --> 00:37:57,715 uh, coffers. 856 00:37:57,799 --> 00:37:59,924 We can prove that money was laundered 857 00:38:00,006 --> 00:38:03,215 through the nuns conduit violations of the law. 858 00:38:03,298 --> 00:38:06,340 Is he knowledgeable about these things that went on 859 00:38:06,423 --> 00:38:09,090 all around him? Uh, that's the question. 860 00:38:09,173 --> 00:38:12,131 And it's easy for someone to say, "I didn't know." 861 00:38:12,215 --> 00:38:15,590 But a good investigator and good prosecutor, in my opinion, 862 00:38:15,674 --> 00:38:19,173 in my experience, has to be prepared to go further 863 00:38:19,256 --> 00:38:21,256 and to look at other evidence. 864 00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:25,131 [Isikoff] There are parallels between what happened in '96 865 00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:28,799 and what happened in 2016. 866 00:38:28,882 --> 00:38:33,799 They are both instances of a foreign adversary, 867 00:38:33,882 --> 00:38:38,757 um, uh, making efforts to influence our election. 868 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,715 But, um, you know, clearly the Russian effort 869 00:38:41,799 --> 00:38:45,382 in 2016 was, uh, 870 00:38:45,465 --> 00:38:47,548 much broader, 871 00:38:47,632 --> 00:38:52,131 much more aggressive, uh, much more encompassing, 872 00:38:52,215 --> 00:38:55,048 and, in many ways much more diabolical 873 00:38:55,131 --> 00:38:59,173 than what took place in '96. 874 00:38:59,256 --> 00:39:02,298 [Podesta] Some people ended up being found criminally liable 875 00:39:02,382 --> 00:39:05,548 but nobody at a senior level that would have triggered, 876 00:39:05,632 --> 00:39:08,674 uh, and tripped the Independent Counsel Statute. 877 00:39:08,757 --> 00:39:11,006 To Freeh, it didn't really matter what the facts were. 878 00:39:11,090 --> 00:39:14,382 It was always, uh, substitute your own ad hoc judgment, 879 00:39:14,465 --> 00:39:16,632 uh, for what, uh, is right, 880 00:39:16,715 --> 00:39:19,340 and-and as I believe, uh, 881 00:39:19,423 --> 00:39:21,382 rightness turned into righteousness 882 00:39:21,465 --> 00:39:23,632 which turned into arrogance. 883 00:39:23,715 --> 00:39:25,840 I don't think there was anybody in law enforcement that-- 884 00:39:25,924 --> 00:39:30,215 that was working on this that felt, 885 00:39:30,298 --> 00:39:31,965 "Hey, there's no crime here. 886 00:39:32,048 --> 00:39:34,131 This is all okay. 887 00:39:34,215 --> 00:39:36,173 This is just 'politics.'" 888 00:39:36,256 --> 00:39:37,674 We would hit that glass ceiling, 889 00:39:37,757 --> 00:39:40,006 which was the Independent Counsel Act. 890 00:39:40,090 --> 00:39:41,382 Okay. 891 00:39:41,465 --> 00:39:43,256 We-we can't go any further. 892 00:39:43,340 --> 00:39:45,632 We can't issue a subpoena that--to that person 893 00:39:45,715 --> 00:39:47,840 because he or she's a covered person. 894 00:39:47,924 --> 00:39:49,632 We can't issue a subpoena to that person 895 00:39:49,715 --> 00:39:51,674 because he or she's a covered person. 896 00:39:51,757 --> 00:39:54,465 Or it's too close a call. 897 00:39:54,548 --> 00:39:57,256 It was clear that there was there, there. 898 00:39:57,340 --> 00:39:58,965 [laughs] There was there, there. 899 00:39:59,048 --> 00:40:01,965 There was something going on. 900 00:40:02,048 --> 00:40:04,840 ♪ Unforgettable ♪ 901 00:40:04,924 --> 00:40:07,548 ♪♪♪ 902 00:40:07,632 --> 00:40:09,256 ♪ That's what you are... ♪ 903 00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:10,423 [La Bella] The Whitewater investigation 904 00:40:10,507 --> 00:40:14,674 was stalling out by 1997. 905 00:40:14,757 --> 00:40:16,840 ♪ Unforgettable... ♪ 906 00:40:16,924 --> 00:40:19,840 [La Bella] In the view of the Starr prosecutors, 907 00:40:19,924 --> 00:40:22,757 it was because people like Jim McDougal 908 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,382 and Webb Hubbell were refusing to cooperate. 909 00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:26,924 In the view of the Clinton people, 910 00:40:27,006 --> 00:40:29,006 it was because there was no evidence 911 00:40:29,090 --> 00:40:31,757 and the Starr prosecutors just had to give up. 912 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,298 ♪ How the thought of you does things to me... ♪ 913 00:40:35,382 --> 00:40:36,548 [Schmidt] The Clinton White House 914 00:40:36,632 --> 00:40:38,507 was feeling very much 915 00:40:38,590 --> 00:40:41,548 like they were out of the woods with Ken Starr 916 00:40:41,632 --> 00:40:45,173 and feeling like they had, uh, defeated him. 917 00:40:45,256 --> 00:40:48,757 ♪ Unforgettable ♪ 918 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,131 ♪ In every-- ♪ 919 00:40:50,215 --> 00:40:52,799 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 920 00:41:10,173 --> 00:41:11,882 Move back! Move back! 921 00:41:11,965 --> 00:41:13,965 [woman] New allegations that President Clinton 922 00:41:14,048 --> 00:41:16,382 had an affair with a former White House intern and then... 923 00:41:16,465 --> 00:41:18,507 [man] Just who is Monica Lewinsky? 924 00:41:18,590 --> 00:41:20,048 - CBS News... - [woman] A whirlpool 925 00:41:20,131 --> 00:41:21,340 of charges, reports, and rumors 926 00:41:21,423 --> 00:41:23,006 has kept on spinning. 927 00:41:23,090 --> 00:41:26,924 [man] speaking French 928 00:41:27,006 --> 00:41:28,465 [woman] Then there's the dress, which could have 929 00:41:28,548 --> 00:41:30,173 possible DNA evidence. Lewinsky left... 930 00:41:30,256 --> 00:41:31,757 [man] Monica! 931 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,298 [woman] Monica, look over here! 932 00:41:33,382 --> 00:41:35,006 [Starr] The name Monica Lewinsky 933 00:41:35,090 --> 00:41:39,382 was utterly unknown to us until January of 1998 934 00:41:39,465 --> 00:41:42,298 when information came to us 935 00:41:42,382 --> 00:41:44,507 that there might very well be, 936 00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:49,382 uh, an activity underway to bring about 937 00:41:49,465 --> 00:41:51,965 perjury and subornation of perjury 938 00:41:52,048 --> 00:41:53,632 by the President of the United States 939 00:41:53,715 --> 00:41:57,006 in the Paula Corbin Jones litigation. 940 00:41:57,090 --> 00:41:59,757 [man] In sworn testimony that Mr. Clinton gave 941 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,465 in the Paula Jones sexual harassment suit, 942 00:42:02,548 --> 00:42:05,757 Mr. Clinton says he never had sexual relations 943 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,840 with Monica Lewinsky, saw her only... 944 00:42:07,924 --> 00:42:10,757 [Gormley] The Starr team felt that they had been thwarted 945 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,590 at every turn by the Clintons. 946 00:42:13,674 --> 00:42:16,757 The Monica Lewinsky matter seemed like the one chance 947 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,507 to pin it down that he had openly lied 948 00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:23,006 in a federal case. 949 00:42:23,090 --> 00:42:27,006 [whirring] 950 00:42:27,090 --> 00:42:29,882 [Barr] Monica Lewinsky story broke. 951 00:42:29,965 --> 00:42:33,799 My concern immediately was that this is gonna overshadow 952 00:42:33,882 --> 00:42:36,423 the campaign finance scandal. 953 00:42:36,507 --> 00:42:38,632 And of course it did. 954 00:42:38,715 --> 00:42:41,674 And I think that's very unfortunate because 955 00:42:41,757 --> 00:42:45,006 what was brushed aside, I think, was more important 956 00:42:45,090 --> 00:42:48,715 than the Monica Lewinsky scandal. 957 00:42:48,799 --> 00:42:52,215 I think it's a factor that the underlying, uh, activity 958 00:42:52,298 --> 00:42:56,298 was not, um, uh, a crime or wasn't alleged to be a crime. 959 00:42:56,382 --> 00:42:59,674 But the underlying activity was alleged to be a violation 960 00:42:59,757 --> 00:43:02,632 of the federal and civil rights of a human being. 961 00:43:02,715 --> 00:43:06,965 And let's--let's get rid of those laws. 962 00:43:07,048 --> 00:43:10,674 Uh, let's get rid of litigation as a mechanism for alleged 963 00:43:10,757 --> 00:43:13,131 victims of sexual harassment in the workplace-- 964 00:43:13,215 --> 00:43:15,423 which is what that was all about-- 965 00:43:15,507 --> 00:43:17,757 and just say, "Well, we don't wanna handle it that way, 966 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,757 and we don't wanna have to put people under oath," 967 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,674 Or, "We don't want people to-to be, uh, embarrassed." 968 00:43:23,757 --> 00:43:25,674 This was a serious context 969 00:43:25,757 --> 00:43:30,131 of a duly authorized, uh, lawsuit 970 00:43:30,215 --> 00:43:33,423 involving the civil rights of a human being. 971 00:43:33,507 --> 00:43:36,840 I wanna say one thing to the American people. 972 00:43:36,924 --> 00:43:40,131 I want you to listen to me. I'm gonna say this again. 973 00:43:40,215 --> 00:43:45,131 I did not have sexual relations with that woman, 974 00:43:45,215 --> 00:43:46,757 Miss Lewinsky. 975 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,590 I never told anybody to lie, not a single time. 976 00:43:50,674 --> 00:43:54,173 Never. These allegations are false. 977 00:43:54,256 --> 00:43:57,298 And I need to go back to work for the American people. 978 00:43:57,382 --> 00:43:58,382 Thank you. 979 00:43:58,465 --> 00:44:01,590 [applause] 980 00:44:03,965 --> 00:44:08,507 My reactions through that entire, um, saga, 981 00:44:08,590 --> 00:44:12,548 including his testimony, um, 982 00:44:12,632 --> 00:44:16,715 on that afternoon and then watching him that evening 983 00:44:16,799 --> 00:44:20,006 was one of profound disappointment. 984 00:44:20,090 --> 00:44:23,173 Can't we come clean? 985 00:44:23,256 --> 00:44:25,173 Can't this get over? 986 00:44:25,256 --> 00:44:27,799 Does this have to continue, 987 00:44:27,882 --> 00:44:32,090 uh, this--what I'm calling this self-inflicted, uh, wound? 988 00:44:32,173 --> 00:44:34,382 Can't the nation be spared? 989 00:44:34,465 --> 00:44:37,256 It was as if you were on this very... 990 00:44:37,340 --> 00:44:41,548 uh, unpleasant journey 991 00:44:41,632 --> 00:44:45,090 and you just want it to stop. 992 00:44:45,173 --> 00:44:47,382 And it's so easy for it to stop. 993 00:44:49,006 --> 00:44:50,799 Just do the right thing. 994 00:44:50,882 --> 00:44:53,090 Straighten it out. 995 00:44:53,173 --> 00:44:55,882 Better late than never. 996 00:44:55,965 --> 00:44:58,757 As you know, in a deposition in January, 997 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,173 I was asked questions about my relationship 998 00:45:01,256 --> 00:45:03,090 with Monica Lewinsky. 999 00:45:03,173 --> 00:45:05,548 While my answers were legally accurate, 1000 00:45:05,632 --> 00:45:08,882 I did not volunteer information. 1001 00:45:08,965 --> 00:45:11,298 Indeed, I did have a relationship with Miss Lewinsky 1002 00:45:11,382 --> 00:45:13,423 that was not appropriate. 1003 00:45:13,507 --> 00:45:15,882 In fact, it was wrong. 1004 00:45:15,965 --> 00:45:18,799 I know that my public comments and my silence 1005 00:45:18,882 --> 00:45:22,340 about this matter gave a false impression. 1006 00:45:22,423 --> 00:45:24,590 I misled people, 1007 00:45:24,674 --> 00:45:27,298 including even my wife. 1008 00:45:27,382 --> 00:45:30,548 [Schmidt] I think that that was a very revealing moment 1009 00:45:30,632 --> 00:45:32,548 when the public could see 1010 00:45:32,632 --> 00:45:35,131 this guy is a liar. 1011 00:45:35,215 --> 00:45:37,548 I mean, he lied to me. 1012 00:45:37,632 --> 00:45:40,131 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 1013 00:45:40,215 --> 00:45:42,215 Governor, are you ready to take the oath? 1014 00:45:42,298 --> 00:45:44,215 - I am. - Will you please raise... 1015 00:45:44,298 --> 00:45:47,256 [Clinton] I can only tell you I was motivated by a desire 1016 00:45:47,340 --> 00:45:49,757 to protect myself from the embarrassment 1017 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,131 of my own conduct. 1018 00:45:52,215 --> 00:45:54,006 The fact that these questions were being asked 1019 00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:56,590 in a politically inspired lawsuit-- 1020 00:45:56,674 --> 00:45:58,340 which has since been dismissed-- 1021 00:45:58,423 --> 00:46:01,298 was a consideration too. 1022 00:46:01,382 --> 00:46:04,131 [Isikoff] I think, as a general rule, 1023 00:46:04,215 --> 00:46:07,256 the American public would like to be able to trust 1024 00:46:07,340 --> 00:46:09,507 what their presidents have to say. 1025 00:46:09,590 --> 00:46:13,256 There will be times of crises, and if our government 1026 00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:15,757 or at least the head of our government 1027 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,507 has a track record of continually saying 1028 00:46:18,590 --> 00:46:23,340 false things, um, then we don't know when, 1029 00:46:23,423 --> 00:46:28,215 if at all, we can trust him or her. 1030 00:46:28,298 --> 00:46:30,465 ...preserve, protect, and defend 1031 00:46:30,548 --> 00:46:32,632 the Constitution of the United States... 1032 00:46:32,715 --> 00:46:34,799 ...preserve, protect, and defend 1033 00:46:34,882 --> 00:46:36,840 the Constitution of the United States... 1034 00:46:36,924 --> 00:46:38,340 [man] ...so help me God. 1035 00:46:38,423 --> 00:46:40,090 ...so help me God. 1036 00:46:40,173 --> 00:46:42,507 - [man] Congratulations. - [cheers and applause] 1037 00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:45,298 [Clinton] I had real and serious concerns 1038 00:46:45,382 --> 00:46:48,465 about an independent counsel investigation 1039 00:46:48,548 --> 00:46:50,715 that began with private business dealings 1040 00:46:50,799 --> 00:46:54,340 20 years ago, then into my private life. 1041 00:46:54,423 --> 00:46:58,382 The truth will come out... one way or the other. 1042 00:46:58,465 --> 00:46:59,882 You can try to hide it. 1043 00:46:59,965 --> 00:47:01,382 You can try to play games with it. 1044 00:47:01,465 --> 00:47:03,674 You can try to avoid it. 1045 00:47:03,757 --> 00:47:07,674 Uh, but in the end, the truth is gonna come out. 1046 00:47:07,757 --> 00:47:11,173 Better that it be done on your terms, uh, 1047 00:47:11,256 --> 00:47:15,173 in speaking honestly, uh, to the people who elected you 1048 00:47:15,256 --> 00:47:20,215 than to have, uh, a special prosecutor or an indictment 1049 00:47:20,298 --> 00:47:24,632 or an impeachment, uh, do that for you. 1050 00:47:25,632 --> 00:47:27,757 [man] This is where Starr's possible grounds 1051 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,548 for impeachment begin. 1052 00:47:29,632 --> 00:47:31,840 There are 11 counts. 1053 00:47:31,924 --> 00:47:34,215 Count one, that the president lied under oath 1054 00:47:34,298 --> 00:47:37,340 in the Jones case when he denied his sexual affair. 1055 00:47:37,423 --> 00:47:39,757 Two, he lied under oath to the grand jury 1056 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,548 about his sexual relationship. 1057 00:47:41,632 --> 00:47:43,256 [Starr] The facts were the facts, 1058 00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:45,674 and as I said to the House of Representatives, 1059 00:47:45,757 --> 00:47:47,590 to the Judiciary Committee, 1060 00:47:47,674 --> 00:47:50,215 "This is yours. This is what we've found. 1061 00:47:50,298 --> 00:47:53,924 My duty as a law officer is to bring this to your attention 1062 00:47:54,006 --> 00:47:57,340 because there's substantial and credible information 1063 00:47:57,423 --> 00:48:01,006 that an impeachable offense may have been, uh, committed. 1064 00:48:01,090 --> 00:48:03,090 [gavel bangs] 1065 00:48:03,173 --> 00:48:05,882 The unfinished business is further consideration 1066 00:48:05,965 --> 00:48:08,465 of House Resolution 611, 1067 00:48:08,548 --> 00:48:10,757 which the clerk will report by title. 1068 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,840 [Hays] A resolution impeaching William Jefferson Clinton, 1069 00:48:13,924 --> 00:48:15,882 President of the United States, 1070 00:48:15,965 --> 00:48:18,590 for high crimes and misdemeanors. 1071 00:48:18,674 --> 00:48:23,465 Today Republicans with a small handful of Democrats 1072 00:48:23,548 --> 00:48:27,173 will vote to impeach President Clinton. Why? 1073 00:48:27,256 --> 00:48:31,006 We believe he assaulted our legal system in every way. 1074 00:48:31,090 --> 00:48:33,006 Let it be said that any president who cheats 1075 00:48:33,090 --> 00:48:35,715 our institutions shall be impeached. 1076 00:48:35,799 --> 00:48:37,757 [Livingston] But to the president, I would say 1077 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,340 you, sir, may resign your post. 1078 00:48:40,423 --> 00:48:44,840 [people shouting] 1079 00:48:44,924 --> 00:48:48,298 It is our laws--the criminal code of the United States 1080 00:48:48,382 --> 00:48:51,048 of America--which, based on exhaustive evidence, 1081 00:48:51,131 --> 00:48:52,965 this president has violated 1082 00:48:53,048 --> 00:48:55,382 pursuant to a pattern of activity. 1083 00:48:55,465 --> 00:48:58,590 To me, there is no doubt that the impeachment 1084 00:48:58,674 --> 00:49:00,256 of William Jefferson Clinton, 1085 00:49:00,340 --> 00:49:03,340 uh, was helpful to our national health. 1086 00:49:03,423 --> 00:49:06,840 It stood very clearly for the proposition 1087 00:49:06,924 --> 00:49:09,340 that there is such a thing as rule of law, 1088 00:49:09,423 --> 00:49:11,590 that there is 1089 00:49:11,674 --> 00:49:14,632 a standard below which 1090 00:49:14,715 --> 00:49:17,674 presidents shall not be allowed, 1091 00:49:17,757 --> 00:49:21,215 at least without paying a price for it to act. 1092 00:49:21,298 --> 00:49:24,590 The Senate meets today to conclude this trial 1093 00:49:24,674 --> 00:49:26,632 by voting on the articles of impeachment, 1094 00:49:26,715 --> 00:49:28,757 thereby fulfilling its obligation 1095 00:49:28,799 --> 00:49:30,090 under the Constitution. 1096 00:49:30,173 --> 00:49:32,006 [man] Article one. 1097 00:49:32,090 --> 00:49:35,215 In his conduct while President of the United States, 1098 00:49:35,298 --> 00:49:37,840 William Jefferson Clinton, in violation 1099 00:49:37,924 --> 00:49:40,465 of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute 1100 00:49:40,548 --> 00:49:43,006 the office of President of the United States, 1101 00:49:43,090 --> 00:49:45,131 has willfully corrupted and manipulated 1102 00:49:45,215 --> 00:49:47,715 the judicial process of the United States 1103 00:49:47,799 --> 00:49:50,215 for his personal gain and exoneration. 1104 00:49:50,298 --> 00:49:52,507 Senators, how say you? 1105 00:49:52,590 --> 00:49:55,548 Is the respondent, William Jefferson Clinton, 1106 00:49:55,632 --> 00:49:57,423 guilty or not guilty? 1107 00:49:57,507 --> 00:49:59,548 - [man] Mr. Abraham. - [Abraham] Guilty. 1108 00:49:59,632 --> 00:50:01,840 [man] Mr. Abraham, guilty. 1109 00:50:01,924 --> 00:50:05,465 [Gormley] It's very dangerous when either party 1110 00:50:05,548 --> 00:50:07,757 uses impeachment proceedings 1111 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,256 to try to push a political end, 1112 00:50:11,340 --> 00:50:14,298 to try to push a palace coup. 1113 00:50:14,382 --> 00:50:18,256 On the other hand, it's equally dangerous 1114 00:50:18,340 --> 00:50:22,882 if either political party refuses to stand up 1115 00:50:22,965 --> 00:50:26,131 to the facts if there is evidence 1116 00:50:26,215 --> 00:50:28,924 of some high crime or misdemeanor 1117 00:50:29,006 --> 00:50:31,507 that threatened the well-being of the state 1118 00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:35,090 that requires a president's removal from office. 1119 00:50:35,173 --> 00:50:37,715 Either scenario 1120 00:50:37,799 --> 00:50:40,757 is, uh, a failure 1121 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,882 to fulfill the constitutional role 1122 00:50:43,965 --> 00:50:46,882 that one has as elected officials. 1123 00:50:46,965 --> 00:50:49,465 [woman] Mr. Allard, guilty. 1124 00:50:49,548 --> 00:50:51,757 Mr. Grassley, guilty. 1125 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,465 Mr. Domenici, guilty. 1126 00:50:54,548 --> 00:50:56,048 Mr. Allard... 1127 00:50:56,131 --> 00:50:57,632 [Giuliani] If perjury was committed, 1128 00:50:57,715 --> 00:51:00,340 if there was a statement that turns out to be 1129 00:51:00,423 --> 00:51:03,131 provably untrue later, then I think the president 1130 00:51:03,215 --> 00:51:05,215 has to be treated like everyone else. 1131 00:51:05,298 --> 00:51:06,715 'Cause I think, under the criminal law, 1132 00:51:06,799 --> 00:51:08,423 everybody should be treated the same. 1133 00:51:08,507 --> 00:51:12,757 If the president is asked to testify, 1134 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,090 subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury, 1135 00:51:16,173 --> 00:51:19,590 and says, "No, not gonna do it"? 1136 00:51:19,674 --> 00:51:21,048 You gotta do it. 1137 00:51:21,131 --> 00:51:22,632 You don't have a choice about that. 1138 00:51:22,715 --> 00:51:24,757 We've gone through this terrible four-year-- 1139 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,090 this last four-year cycle with Monica 1140 00:51:27,173 --> 00:51:29,965 and the-the worst of all, the Linda Tripps of the world, 1141 00:51:30,048 --> 00:51:32,965 and I-I just-- I just hate what I see. 1142 00:51:33,048 --> 00:51:34,674 I hate what it represents for the country. 1143 00:51:34,757 --> 00:51:36,131 We've been a-- been a laughingstock 1144 00:51:36,215 --> 00:51:37,340 all over the world. 1145 00:51:37,423 --> 00:51:38,965 And you're talking about lies 1146 00:51:39,048 --> 00:51:40,382 where you look into a camera and you say, 1147 00:51:40,465 --> 00:51:42,507 "I did not have sex with blah, blah, blah." 1148 00:51:42,590 --> 00:51:45,006 And it's--what's happened in the last three or four years 1149 00:51:45,090 --> 00:51:47,256 is truly disgraceful. 1150 00:51:47,340 --> 00:51:50,256 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 1151 00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:55,215 ♪♪♪ 88961

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