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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,540 --> 00:00:04,180 The following programme contains distressing scenes. 2 00:00:18,460 --> 00:00:20,419 MARGARET: That night... 3 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:24,180 we wondered why they were racing through from one field to another. 4 00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:27,620 We thought, 'What has scared the sheep?' 5 00:00:30,660 --> 00:00:33,979 HUGH: We were very lucky there was no sheep killed, 6 00:00:33,980 --> 00:00:37,940 with all the... Everything that came down... everything coming down. 7 00:00:50,340 --> 00:00:52,579 This is the red suitcase. 8 00:00:52,580 --> 00:00:55,019 That was quite the thing to see. 9 00:00:55,020 --> 00:00:57,539 Well, there's the house. 10 00:00:57,540 --> 00:01:02,540 That's how near it was. These things were all in front of the house, yeah. 11 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:06,940 That's a trolley, I think, a food trolley. 12 00:01:08,060 --> 00:01:10,780 Yeah. Yeah. 13 00:01:12,780 --> 00:01:15,140 And that was the door. 14 00:01:16,580 --> 00:01:18,620 That we found, yeah. 15 00:01:20,140 --> 00:01:21,739 We just thought, 16 00:01:21,740 --> 00:01:23,779 'Just a few hours before, 17 00:01:23,780 --> 00:01:26,780 'they'd all gone in that door, hadn't they?' 18 00:01:27,740 --> 00:01:30,219 And here, it's lying amongst them. 19 00:01:30,220 --> 00:01:32,260 Yeah. 20 00:01:36,340 --> 00:01:39,939 TV: Pan Am Flight 103 crashed into the Scottish village of Lockerbie. 21 00:01:39,940 --> 00:01:42,099 270 lives lost. 22 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:44,059 It was Britain's worst ever air crash. 23 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:47,819 REAGAN: (TV) We have no knowledge of how this accident happened. 24 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:50,059 We're trying to find out. 25 00:01:50,060 --> 00:01:51,939 MAN 1: It was an attack on America. 26 00:01:51,940 --> 00:01:53,539 MAN 2: Largest crime scene in history. 27 00:01:53,540 --> 00:01:55,459 MAN 3:200,000 pieces of evidence. 28 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:57,219 JIM: My daughter hadn't died in an accident - 29 00:01:57,220 --> 00:01:59,059 she has been brutally murdered. 30 00:01:59,060 --> 00:02:01,859 MAN 4: They killed our children. MAN 5: To be lied to for 30 years 31 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:04,499 MAN 6: I think the US Government had an agenda. 32 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:07,219 GADDAFI: Reagan is the biggest terrorist in the world. 33 00:02:07,220 --> 00:02:09,059 VICTORIA: If it's up to our government, 34 00:02:09,060 --> 00:02:11,020 we might not ever know the truth. 35 00:02:14,540 --> 00:02:17,260 MAN: Nothing is what it seems in the Lockerbie story. 36 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:31,180 JIM: Come on. Come on. 37 00:02:32,100 --> 00:02:33,899 Sit, there's a good boy. 38 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:35,499 You stay there. 39 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:37,540 You stay there, OK. 40 00:02:38,860 --> 00:02:41,220 'Both my grannies came from the Isle of Skye. 41 00:02:42,220 --> 00:02:44,779 'And Flora - my daughter Flora - 42 00:02:44,780 --> 00:02:48,979 'was very fond of Skye, she used to come up here whenever she could.' 43 00:02:48,980 --> 00:02:50,939 INTERVIEWER: That's a picture of her... 44 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:54,059 'just behind you on the wall over there isn't it? 45 00:02:54,060 --> 00:02:58,460 That is her attending the Skye Ball. 46 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:01,619 She was a very striking girl. 47 00:03:01,620 --> 00:03:04,459 Very easy to talk to 48 00:03:04,460 --> 00:03:06,099 and to get to know. 49 00:03:06,100 --> 00:03:08,140 And she used to make her own dresses... 50 00:03:09,260 --> 00:03:11,659 and not because I pushed her. 51 00:03:11,660 --> 00:03:14,539 But she finally decided to go into medicine. 52 00:03:14,540 --> 00:03:18,620 And she was actually part way through her medical training. 53 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:22,739 She was just on the eve 54 00:03:22,740 --> 00:03:26,820 of her 24th birthday that year, 1988. 55 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:31,659 She rang up to ask us if we minded 56 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:33,819 if she went over to America... 57 00:03:33,820 --> 00:03:36,459 to meet her boyfriend over Christmas. 58 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:38,739 And of course, um, 59 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:41,820 not being total ogres, we said, 'Yes if that's what you want to do'. 60 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:48,099 Everything was booked up, except there were plenty of seats available 61 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:51,060 on a certain flight known as Pan Am 103... 62 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:55,100 which is why we're talking now. 63 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:05,779 (DOG BARKS) 64 00:04:05,780 --> 00:04:08,419 COLIN: Before, you know, 1988, 65 00:04:08,420 --> 00:04:11,380 no-one had really ever heard of Lockerbie. 66 00:04:13,260 --> 00:04:15,780 It was dotted on the A74, on the way to Glasgow. 67 00:04:16,820 --> 00:04:20,860 You might have had a stop-in at the chip shop for a bite to eat, maybe. 68 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:26,499 Life here was... 69 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:29,620 just... undramatic, you know? 70 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:42,659 The 21st of December 1988 71 00:04:42,660 --> 00:04:45,500 will stay with me forever. 72 00:04:47,540 --> 00:04:50,939 It was three months into my police career, 73 00:04:50,940 --> 00:04:53,459 I was just about to turn 19. 74 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:58,540 And I happened to be the youngest recruit in Scotland at the time too. 75 00:05:00,660 --> 00:05:04,179 Got into the car about... twenty to seven, 76 00:05:04,180 --> 00:05:07,619 to be at a Christmas party just outside the town. 77 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:09,699 (DOG BARKS) 78 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:12,419 We were actually plucking turkeys for Christmas. (LAUGHS) 79 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:16,099 So, we had help, and we were all sitting round the table 80 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:18,819 having our supper, through in the kitchen. 81 00:05:18,820 --> 00:05:22,380 HUGH: It was a dark, - windy night, yeah. - It was. 82 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:25,739 DAVE: I was only 17. 83 00:05:25,740 --> 00:05:29,619 Basically, we were just sitting watching the television. 84 00:05:29,620 --> 00:05:32,499 My father was away, getting a turkey for Christmas. 85 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,539 ('THIS IS YOUR LIFE' THEME TUNE PLAYS) 86 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:37,020 I think we were watching 'This is Your Life'. 87 00:05:38,660 --> 00:05:40,700 (PLANE ENGINE REVS OVERHEAD) 88 00:05:42,380 --> 00:05:44,340 (TV BACKGROUND CHATTER) 89 00:05:47,340 --> 00:05:50,219 TV: Now, we're planning to give a Christmas surprise to the man 90 00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:52,139 who, 40 years ago, 91 00:05:52,140 --> 00:05:54,379 brought this loveable character to life. 92 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:58,099 And it was three minutes past seven. 93 00:05:58,100 --> 00:05:59,739 (TV AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) 94 00:05:59,740 --> 00:06:03,739 I can always remember three minutes past seven that night. 95 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:06,820 ASPEL: (ON TV) And I'm here to say, Harry Corbett, 'This is Your Life'. 96 00:06:14,020 --> 00:06:17,259 PETER: I heard this loud noise. (DOG BARKS) 97 00:06:17,260 --> 00:06:20,899 We heard, like, banging bang, bang, bang. 98 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:22,539 (BIRDS SQUAWK) 99 00:06:22,540 --> 00:06:25,099 And the pheasants were all shouting. 100 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:26,539 (BIRD SQUAWKS) 101 00:06:26,540 --> 00:06:28,820 So, we all jumped up, looked out the window. 102 00:06:37,220 --> 00:06:39,779 There was like a great big mushroom ball of fire. 103 00:06:39,780 --> 00:06:41,539 You could see the thing just over the hill, 104 00:06:41,540 --> 00:06:44,860 that was just sort of coming out of Lockerbie. 105 00:07:05,420 --> 00:07:07,420 There was glass. (CAR ALARM WAILS) 106 00:07:12,940 --> 00:07:14,979 Oh my God. 107 00:07:14,980 --> 00:07:17,020 Unbelievable. 108 00:07:19,980 --> 00:07:21,980 Everywhere. 109 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:42,100 (POLICE RADIO CHATTER AND SIREN WAILS) 110 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:55,459 WOMAN: (ON RADIO) Over. 111 00:07:55,460 --> 00:07:57,500 MAN: Come on, Jack. 112 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:08,540 Over. 113 00:08:09,860 --> 00:08:11,739 MAN: (ON RADIO) Over. 114 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:15,459 COLIN: I thought I was witnessing some kind of chemical tanker crash 115 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:17,500 on the A74 ahead of me. 116 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:23,699 And then a sergeant emerged out of the smoke, 117 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:27,619 and he said, 'Colin, there's a hole in the road in Sherwood Crescent. 118 00:08:27,620 --> 00:08:30,179 'You'd better go to the police station and sign on'. 119 00:08:30,180 --> 00:08:33,499 Move back please folks, live electricity cable. 120 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:35,819 We thought it was a military aircraft, 121 00:08:35,820 --> 00:08:38,979 because they were still practising in the dark, you see. 122 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:42,940 We just thought, 'Oh, my goodness, one of them boys have crashed.' 123 00:08:43,980 --> 00:08:45,979 WOMAN: We seen the house lighting up. 124 00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:50,019 Keith has gone to the door. 'Just shut it cos it's too frightening.' 125 00:08:50,020 --> 00:08:52,019 Oh, my God, it was terrible. 126 00:08:52,020 --> 00:08:54,819 And then sparks, and then the whole thing went down. 127 00:08:54,820 --> 00:08:57,539 (STUTTERS) Oh, I didn't know what was happening. 128 00:08:57,540 --> 00:08:59,539 Like, I just got a fright. Shaking, I was. 129 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:01,179 (SIREN WAILS IN DISTANCE) 130 00:09:01,180 --> 00:09:06,139 People were completely numb and confused. 131 00:09:06,140 --> 00:09:09,739 Why was there a huge explosion at one end of the town, 132 00:09:09,740 --> 00:09:13,220 and why was the other end of the town also affected? 133 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:18,220 It didn't initially make any sense. 134 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:23,900 After supper, we just set off down the hill. 135 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:27,460 Here's stuff lying on the side of the road. 136 00:09:29,340 --> 00:09:32,299 And we had took one look, and we thought, 137 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:34,819 'This has been no military plane'. 138 00:09:34,820 --> 00:09:37,980 We could tell, it must have been a passenger. 139 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:46,659 And you were guessing how many people maybe was on that plane. 140 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:48,499 And you would think, 141 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:52,140 'My goodness! How many hundreds of people are in mourning right now?' 142 00:09:54,940 --> 00:09:56,739 REPORTER: (ON TV) Before we go, 143 00:09:56,740 --> 00:09:59,339 we have an unconfirmed report from the Ministry of Defence 144 00:09:59,340 --> 00:10:01,499 that a Boeing 747 airliner - 145 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:03,659 we know only that it's a civilian airliner - 146 00:10:03,660 --> 00:10:07,619 has crashed in the Lockerbie area of Dumfriesshire. 147 00:10:07,620 --> 00:10:09,899 We don't know what airline, 148 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:13,379 but the report makes it plain that it is a civilian airliner. 149 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:15,739 JIM: I was making a Christmas calendar, 150 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:18,060 to send out to members of the family. 151 00:10:19,260 --> 00:10:22,939 And I was suddenly and abruptly called by my wife Jane, 152 00:10:22,940 --> 00:10:24,739 because, on the television, 153 00:10:24,740 --> 00:10:27,179 there was this message about a terrible disaster 154 00:10:27,180 --> 00:10:29,700 happening in the borders between Scotland and England. 155 00:10:31,180 --> 00:10:34,379 And Jane concluded immediately that... 156 00:10:34,380 --> 00:10:36,820 Flora was on that plane. 157 00:10:41,460 --> 00:10:43,299 (POLICE RADIO CHATTER) 158 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:47,100 MAN: Aircraft involved, a Pan Am 747. 159 00:10:49,420 --> 00:10:53,059 VICTORIA: The radio reported that a Pan American flight 160 00:10:53,060 --> 00:10:56,059 had disappeared from radar. 161 00:10:56,060 --> 00:10:58,300 Flight 103. 162 00:11:02,140 --> 00:11:03,979 And I said to my mother, 163 00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:07,379 'Oh that's the flight that John's gonna come home on tomorrow'. 164 00:11:07,380 --> 00:11:10,179 (SIREN WHOOPS) 165 00:11:10,180 --> 00:11:12,740 And I said, you know, 'Those families... 166 00:11:13,780 --> 00:11:16,180 '..they're never gonna be the same again'. 167 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:19,300 And, um... 168 00:11:20,860 --> 00:11:23,299 and so everybody bowed their head. 169 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:25,499 And we... 170 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:28,459 we just had our moment of silence, 171 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:30,619 and a bit of a prayer... 172 00:11:30,620 --> 00:11:33,379 and, um, I didn't realise that, you know, 173 00:11:33,380 --> 00:11:36,059 I was really praying for myself and... 174 00:11:36,060 --> 00:11:39,259 and my family and... I never imagined that, 175 00:11:39,260 --> 00:11:41,899 you know, um, this... 176 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:45,459 this was something that I would ever be... 177 00:11:45,460 --> 00:11:47,500 a part of. 178 00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:55,899 DAVID: I was working for Radio Forth in Edinburgh. 179 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,219 Fortunately, I found someone in the radio station - 180 00:11:58,220 --> 00:12:00,059 who comes from the area - 181 00:12:00,060 --> 00:12:03,660 and was able to navigate me right into the middle of the town. 182 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:08,539 INTERVIEWER: So, you were one of the first journalists on the ground? 183 00:12:08,540 --> 00:12:11,299 Yeah. I would imagine so, yes. 184 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:12,939 (SIREN WAILS) 185 00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:15,539 The first thing you noticed was an overwhelming... 186 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:19,300 stink of aviation fuel filled the whole town. 187 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:24,100 It was such a bizarre scene, because it was so close to Christmas. 188 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:28,819 There was no electricity, obviously the lights in the houses were out. 189 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:30,819 But the light of the flames, you could... 190 00:12:30,820 --> 00:12:34,380 quite clearly see Christmas trees and Christmas decorations. 191 00:12:36,580 --> 00:12:39,219 It was really hard to comprehend... 192 00:12:39,220 --> 00:12:41,460 exactly what had happened. 193 00:12:43,820 --> 00:12:46,059 I mean, Imagine when I said, 194 00:12:46,060 --> 00:12:49,100 'Oh the golf course is covered in bodies, apparently'. 195 00:12:50,540 --> 00:12:53,339 You're kind of built in to dismiss that, 196 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:55,299 you'd think 'Oh that can't be true', 197 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:58,379 you know, 'it's obviously just small town exaggeration', 198 00:12:58,380 --> 00:13:01,539 and, of course, it's exactly what... what had happened. 199 00:13:01,540 --> 00:13:04,260 The golf course was covered in bodies. 200 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:12,979 MAN: There have been no survivors reported from the crashed aircraft. 201 00:13:12,980 --> 00:13:17,779 And we're waiting for Dr Hill to give us an official 'stand down'. 202 00:13:17,780 --> 00:13:19,499 He's not prepared to do so, 203 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:22,619 because they still have several helicopters flying around the area, 204 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:25,219 bringing in casualties. 205 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:28,259 But so far as I can make out, 206 00:13:28,260 --> 00:13:30,579 these casualties are... 207 00:13:30,580 --> 00:13:32,219 are corpses. 208 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:34,579 And I think we could quite safely say - 209 00:13:34,580 --> 00:13:37,179 to those who have turned up voluntarily - 210 00:13:37,180 --> 00:13:39,819 we probably won't require their services. 211 00:13:39,820 --> 00:13:41,980 And thank you very much for coming out. 212 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:04,420 JIM: Very early on the morning, not long after dawn had broken... 213 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:07,900 we flew out to Lockerbie. 214 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:22,139 DAVID: (ON DEVICE) There's an enormous hole in the ground 215 00:14:22,140 --> 00:14:24,139 where Pan Am Flight 103... 216 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:27,539 is thought to have made its first contact with the ground. 217 00:14:27,540 --> 00:14:29,899 It must be about 30 feet deep, 218 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:31,859 and, on either side of the hole, 219 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:34,100 houses are absolutely shattered. 220 00:14:35,380 --> 00:14:39,419 And as we move over Lockerbie, you can see the trail of devastation - 221 00:14:39,420 --> 00:14:42,059 wreaked by the 747 - 222 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:44,940 as it bounced and burnt its way across the town. 223 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:52,660 We're now flying right out along the trail of the wreckage and debris. 224 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:58,219 The fields here are littered with what are easily recognisable 225 00:14:58,220 --> 00:15:01,299 as parts of the fuselage and wings... 226 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:03,539 of the 747... 227 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:06,660 stretching out in a seemingly straight line of death. 228 00:15:09,820 --> 00:15:14,299 I've been told that the crew were found strapped in their seats, 229 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:16,140 in the cockpit. 230 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:20,500 Gosh. 231 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:23,420 Yeah. 232 00:15:24,580 --> 00:15:26,579 (SIGHS) Yeah, it was a... 233 00:15:26,580 --> 00:15:29,219 it was, you know, an image you just won't forget. 234 00:15:29,220 --> 00:15:32,659 And we were low enough to, you know, 235 00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:35,499 to quite clearly see features and... 236 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:37,739 see that people were... 237 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:41,259 to all intents and purposes, just, you know, sitting out in the grass. 238 00:15:41,260 --> 00:15:43,300 But of course, they were all dead. 239 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:51,419 HUGH: The body we found... 240 00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:53,619 would be the furthest from Lockerbie, 241 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:55,899 the furthest away from the crash site. 242 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:57,700 MARGARET: Mm-hm. 243 00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:00,979 It looked like a young person. 244 00:16:00,980 --> 00:16:03,659 A full head of hair and... Black hair. 245 00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:06,020 Black, shiny hair, yeah. 246 00:16:08,420 --> 00:16:11,780 He was lying on the ground with a sheet on top of him. 247 00:16:14,180 --> 00:16:16,700 You desperately wanted to know who he was. 248 00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:21,259 And we were thinking about a young wife... 249 00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:24,339 maybe children, parents. 250 00:16:24,340 --> 00:16:28,420 You know, you started trying to put a picture together. 251 00:16:29,420 --> 00:16:31,299 Aye. 252 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:35,659 We developed quite a love for 'our - boy', as we called him. - Yes, aye. 253 00:16:35,660 --> 00:16:37,419 You know... 254 00:16:37,420 --> 00:16:40,580 we didn't know who he was... No... at all. 255 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:45,620 But you got attached to him in some way. 256 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:51,499 For nearly 24 hours, we were... 257 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,740 keeping an eye on him up there, you know. 258 00:16:58,140 --> 00:17:01,459 Just about 3 o'clock in the afternoon, the next afternoon, 259 00:17:01,460 --> 00:17:03,500 before they came for the man. 260 00:17:11,420 --> 00:17:13,219 (SHEEP BLEAT) 261 00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:16,099 DAVE: My father came back, past Tundergarth Church, 262 00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:18,339 where the cockpit was and... 263 00:17:18,340 --> 00:17:20,620 he said that we would go out and see. 264 00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:28,859 (RADIO CHATTER) People were going home for Christmas. 265 00:17:28,860 --> 00:17:31,259 So, there was Christmas presents and luggage and... 266 00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:33,259 obviously, the... 267 00:17:33,260 --> 00:17:35,300 the bodies. 268 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:44,219 We found a toddler, just over that hedge, 269 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:46,260 in that... in the next field. 270 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:50,059 She was just this little girl with blonde, blonde hair. 271 00:17:50,060 --> 00:17:52,340 It's the one thing that sticks in my mind. 272 00:17:57,780 --> 00:18:00,259 My father didnae want the bodies getting attacked 273 00:18:00,260 --> 00:18:02,540 by foxes or wildlife. 274 00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:07,419 We were out in the pickup truck, and we just lifted them, 275 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:09,460 and we took them into Lockerbie. 276 00:18:10,700 --> 00:18:13,300 We were trying to do what we could do to help. 277 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:19,499 TV: Police and rescue services have so far recovered about 150 bodies. 278 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,699 60 of them were found on a golf course. 279 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:24,259 About 40 others found on a housing estate. 280 00:18:24,260 --> 00:18:27,660 And, again, about another 50 on another housing estate. 281 00:18:28,580 --> 00:18:31,979 Most of the bodies lie where police and rescue services found them, 282 00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:34,020 covered by tarpaulins. 283 00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:38,100 My father, he never really talked about it. 284 00:18:39,980 --> 00:18:42,219 I suppose the death and the bodies 285 00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:44,940 maybe just affected him a bit more is what it was. 286 00:18:46,820 --> 00:18:50,339 But, in them days, it was just basically you had to deal with, 287 00:18:50,340 --> 00:18:53,580 get on and deal with it yourself, that was just what it was. 288 00:19:06,660 --> 00:19:08,660 (CHATTER) 289 00:19:43,420 --> 00:19:45,740 INTERVIEWER: Wow, oh my gosh. 290 00:19:58,180 --> 00:20:00,180 Aye. 291 00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:18,019 Point me out Ella Ramsden's house? 292 00:20:18,020 --> 00:20:20,980 That one there. Just the end one there. 293 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:24,340 That's it. 294 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:31,419 REPORTER: Memories of the night disaster came to No 71 Park Place 295 00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:33,379 will never leave the woman who lived there. 296 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:36,979 Ella Ramsden scrambled from the wreckage clutching her dog. 297 00:20:36,980 --> 00:20:39,700 Her budgie was rescued later by a fireman. 298 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:44,299 I'm so sorry for the people that have died, 299 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:46,499 and their families. 300 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,419 More difficult for them. 301 00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:50,660 I've only lost a house, that's all. 302 00:21:15,140 --> 00:21:17,500 And just... (SIGHS) 303 00:21:23,660 --> 00:21:25,779 (RADIO CHATTER) 304 00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:29,899 REPORTER: It's now more than 12 hours since Britain's worst air disaster. 305 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:33,619 It's now known that 258 people died on the plane. 306 00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:37,339 Eleven local people, including three children, are still missing, 307 00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:39,139 and are now presumed dead. 308 00:21:39,140 --> 00:21:42,219 As far as I know, I've lost my brother-in-law, 309 00:21:42,220 --> 00:21:44,699 my sister-in-law, 310 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:48,660 and their house is just... there's just a 30-foot crater. 311 00:21:49,660 --> 00:21:51,739 I cannae even find the house. 312 00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:53,780 It's... It's gone like. 313 00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:56,739 DAVID: In Sherwood Crescent, 314 00:21:56,740 --> 00:22:01,380 where the wing full of aviation fuel hit the ground and exploded... 315 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:05,420 that's where the people on the ground were killed. 316 00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,819 And of course some of the bodies were never found. 317 00:22:09,820 --> 00:22:11,899 They were completely vapourised. 318 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:16,540 The houses were vapourised such as the intensity of the explosion. 319 00:22:21,780 --> 00:22:24,219 THATCHER: It is even worse in daylight... 320 00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:26,339 than it looked on television at night. 321 00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:28,619 And the number of houses that are damaged, 322 00:22:28,620 --> 00:22:30,579 Um, and... 323 00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:33,699 the people in them must've wondered just whatever was happening. 324 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:36,339 As indeed the people in the aircraft must've... 325 00:22:36,340 --> 00:22:38,500 had this, well... 326 00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:41,900 it was just terrible. 327 00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:46,179 JANE: People get on planes... 328 00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:49,779 like we used to take buses when I was a child. 329 00:22:49,780 --> 00:22:52,819 And, so, we never saw any... 330 00:22:52,820 --> 00:22:56,140 danger in Flora... going to America. 331 00:22:58,260 --> 00:23:00,580 JIM: They put a number up, you know the way it is. 332 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:06,100 Heathrow, I couldn't get through to at all. 333 00:23:07,660 --> 00:23:11,260 And eventually, we ended up ringing the Pan Am desk in New York. 334 00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:16,460 They were able to tell us that Flora was on that flight. 335 00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:20,819 And at the same time, we could hear chaos in the background. 336 00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:23,700 And you could hear women screaming. 337 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:27,060 MAN: Whoa! (WOMAN SCREAMS) 338 00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:34,380 (WAILING) My baby! 339 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:44,339 A lot of American families had congregated at JFK Airport 340 00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:46,339 to get the latest news on this crash. 341 00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:48,780 Because most of the victims were American. 342 00:23:57,460 --> 00:23:59,299 VICTORIA: I turned the TV back on. 343 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:02,179 And there was an 800 number that said, you know, 344 00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:04,900 to call that number, and it was busy-busy. 345 00:24:09,060 --> 00:24:11,459 And then finally, I, um... 346 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,500 got through. 347 00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:18,459 I said, you know, 'I've been told my husband was on this flight'. 348 00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:21,299 'Uh, what's his name? What's his nationality?' 349 00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:25,219 I'm desperate. I'm saying, 'Why are you asking me all these questions? 350 00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:28,259 'I just need to know if John Cummock was on the flight or wasn't he'. 351 00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:32,419 And they started taking all this different information, 352 00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:37,179 and they said, 'Well, really, we can't confirm anything right now'. 353 00:24:37,180 --> 00:24:40,019 I said, 'So, you can't confirm if he was on the flight? 354 00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:44,339 'And you can't confirm that this plane has crashed?' 355 00:24:44,340 --> 00:24:49,459 And, um, they said, 'No, um, we're just taking information right now'. 356 00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:51,859 And I said: 'How cruel is this?' 357 00:24:51,860 --> 00:24:55,180 I said, you know, 'I have three little children'. 358 00:25:02,340 --> 00:25:05,539 John happened to be in London on business. 359 00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:09,100 And every day, we would always talk. 360 00:25:10,780 --> 00:25:13,980 He called me first thing on December 21st. 361 00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:19,539 We had talked about preparation for Christmas and the kids, you know, 362 00:25:19,540 --> 00:25:22,019 waiting for Santa and daddy to come home. 363 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,699 And it was also going to be, uh... 364 00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,059 when we were gonna be celebrating... 365 00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:29,420 our youngest daughter's third birthday. 366 00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:35,459 He made no mention that he was going to be changing his plans, 367 00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:38,540 and trying to come home early and surprise us. 368 00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:45,579 TV: Now, America's number one primetime news. 369 00:25:45,580 --> 00:25:48,659 Evening, everyone. James Adams with Angela Robinson. 370 00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:50,979 Thanks for joining us. Maurice is off tonight. 371 00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:53,099 'It was literally raining fire'... 372 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,979 Of course, in the media, everything was about... 373 00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:58,019 the flames and the wreckage. 374 00:25:58,020 --> 00:26:00,499 With more than 250 people on board. 375 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:03,579 And in the foreground was all debris, 376 00:26:03,580 --> 00:26:06,699 and there were, you know, bodies covered with orange tarps. 377 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,299 And in the right side of the foreground 378 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,340 was a brown attache case. 379 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:18,539 I'd given John that attache case for our anniversary, 380 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:20,580 on August 23rd of that year. 381 00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:24,699 So, that photograph solidified to me 382 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,780 that he really was on board the plane. 383 00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:34,059 That's how, really, my... 384 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:36,219 was the beginning of my nightmare. 385 00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:38,980 (WEEPS) Um... 386 00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:59,900 DICK: Generally speaking, 747s don't fall out of the sky. 387 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:03,579 So, the first suspicion was, 388 00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:06,020 something bad happened to that plane. 389 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:12,180 The FBI, we had somebody in charge of the investigation... 390 00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:15,380 that was me. 391 00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:18,219 INTERVIEWER: I just want to actually start... 392 00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:20,499 I just wanted to show you these pictures. 393 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,979 These were actually taken by a colleague of yours. 394 00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:27,460 Oh, yeah, I know about these pictures... some of them. 395 00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:37,060 I remember seeing the seats, yeah. 396 00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:41,819 (SIGHS) That shoe... 397 00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:44,099 we had a picture of that shoe... 398 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:46,220 on our office wall in Washington. 399 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:49,619 Sort of a reminder. 400 00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:53,260 We weren't doing this for ourselves, we were doing it for them... 401 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:57,780 and we devoted resources to finding out what happened. 402 00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:05,019 We have a requirement to... 403 00:28:05,020 --> 00:28:07,619 obtain the very best evidence that we can, 404 00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:10,099 to allow us to try and find a cause... 405 00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:11,939 of the accident. 406 00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:13,700 Uh, or if it is an accident. 407 00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:17,819 To do that, we have to carry out a very meticulous search. 408 00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:20,779 The Scottish police had resources. 409 00:28:20,780 --> 00:28:23,899 They were a very civilised, well-trained, 410 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:25,819 excellent police agency. 411 00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:29,219 REPORTER: Hundreds of police, from forces throughout Scotland, 412 00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:31,579 are now involved in the search for debris. 413 00:28:31,580 --> 00:28:34,819 Reports are coming in, from far and wide, of further sightings. 414 00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:37,179 From the very first night, 415 00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:40,219 they treated it like a crime scene, 416 00:28:40,220 --> 00:28:44,539 with the goal of first bringing in all of the bodies 417 00:28:44,540 --> 00:28:46,580 and all the aircraft parts. 418 00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:50,619 So, we asked, 'We would like to work with you', 419 00:28:50,620 --> 00:28:54,419 recognising they are in charge of the investigation. 420 00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:57,819 And the FBI is not used to not being in charge. 421 00:28:57,820 --> 00:29:01,779 Um, I have been appointed as the investigator in charge 422 00:29:01,780 --> 00:29:04,139 for this particular accident. 423 00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:06,979 There obviously are a number of potential causes 424 00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:08,579 for an in-flight breakup. 425 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,859 We are looking for evidence... 426 00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:14,739 to try and find the point at which... 427 00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:16,860 things first started to go wrong. 428 00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:22,539 REPORTER: Pan Am Flight 103 began in Frankfurt, 429 00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:25,459 then passengers changed planes at Heathrow 430 00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:27,419 for the flight on to New York. 431 00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:29,539 Over Lockerbie, the crew went silent. 432 00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:32,379 TV: It didn't look as though the pilot was in any particular trouble. 433 00:29:32,380 --> 00:29:35,139 No trouble at all. They were having normal conversations. 434 00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:37,100 And then suddenly, the plane disappeared. 435 00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:42,899 COLIN: The aircraft was flying at a bearing of about 320 degrees. 436 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:46,620 Kind of northwest-ish, at 31,000 feet. 437 00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:50,779 At 07:02pm and a few seconds, 438 00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:53,500 the nose cone rips off the front of the aircraft. 439 00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:57,659 TB: Investigators will want to see if there was any evidence 440 00:29:57,660 --> 00:30:00,139 of a sudden cabin depressurisation, 441 00:30:00,140 --> 00:30:02,659 that could be caused by a massive technical failure, 442 00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:04,819 or by a bomb explosion. 443 00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:08,299 Whatever happened to this plane may have started about in here, 444 00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:11,459 an area of the plane where a cargo hold runs underneath. 445 00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:15,339 At that point, it starts to plummet 446 00:30:15,340 --> 00:30:18,899 and dive directly towards the town. 447 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,019 But because it was quite windy that night, 448 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:22,899 as the aircraft breaks up, 449 00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:25,819 the lighter things blew much further east. 450 00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:28,619 The debris field extended, in fact, 451 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:31,219 as far as the east coast of England, 452 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,819 right into Northumbria. 453 00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:36,299 All of that debris field 454 00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,019 had to be searched, systematically. 455 00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:42,059 Field by field, tree by tree. 456 00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:45,380 600 plus searchers had to gather each morning. 457 00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:49,860 DICK: It was humongous. 458 00:30:52,460 --> 00:30:54,660 845 square miles. 459 00:30:56,740 --> 00:30:58,900 The largest crime scene in history. 460 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:05,139 REAGAN: I wanna express our sorrow and our concern 461 00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:08,579 for the families and friends of those who died in the crash 462 00:31:08,580 --> 00:31:10,939 of the Pan American flight 103. 463 00:31:10,940 --> 00:31:14,779 Christmas is a special time for the young... 464 00:31:14,780 --> 00:31:18,419 for those who carry the twin promises of hopes and dreams. 465 00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:22,459 And on this flight were the hopes and dreams of many young people, 466 00:31:22,460 --> 00:31:26,300 including the tragic loss of so many students from Syracuse University. 467 00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:31,499 A tragedy that steals the hopes and dreams from our society 468 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,659 magnifies the loss... to our society. 469 00:31:34,660 --> 00:31:36,700 May God be with them. 470 00:31:52,820 --> 00:31:55,539 MAN: As at half-past three this afternoon, 471 00:31:55,540 --> 00:31:59,060 the temporary mortuary at the town hall is now full. 472 00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:04,539 We have opened a second mortuary at the ice rink at Lockerbie Ice Rink, 473 00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:07,699 where in total we have now received, 474 00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,460 between the two mortuaries, 150 bodies. 475 00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:16,100 We have, as yet, no positive, formal identifications. 476 00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:30,939 JIM: I had spoken to the guy 477 00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:34,740 who had been put in charge of the post-mortems of the bodies. 478 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,779 And I said, 'Look, I'm a doc too, 479 00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:41,540 'and I want to see my daughter's body.' 480 00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:46,059 And he said, 'I understand, I'll fix it. 481 00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:48,379 'Come to the ice rink'. 482 00:32:48,380 --> 00:32:51,739 And by the time... I got there, 483 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:55,539 he and the men with him had taken Flora's body - 484 00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:57,739 from amongst all the others - 485 00:32:57,740 --> 00:33:00,979 and put it aside in a little alcove with, um... 486 00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:03,459 some flowers there and things. 487 00:33:03,460 --> 00:33:05,500 (SIGHS) But, um... 488 00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:08,459 she'd been so damaged. 489 00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:11,659 She hadn't been damaged by the explosion on the plane, 490 00:33:11,660 --> 00:33:14,259 but mainly by impact with the ground, 491 00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:17,300 which had so altered her face and her head that she... 492 00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:19,980 well, she was barely recognisable. 493 00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:24,979 I asked him if, um... 494 00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:27,059 if I could look at her left foot, 495 00:33:27,060 --> 00:33:30,980 because she had a little pigmented spot on her big toe. 496 00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:35,019 So, the cloth was taken off her. 497 00:33:35,020 --> 00:33:36,939 I looked at her feet. 498 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:39,019 There was the spot... 499 00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:41,620 on her undamaged foot. 500 00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:49,420 JANE: I didn't want to see her when she had been killed. 501 00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:54,619 I wanted to remember her as... 502 00:33:54,620 --> 00:33:56,459 I had last seen her. 503 00:33:56,460 --> 00:33:58,379 Full of life. 504 00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:00,939 INTERVIEWER: And Flora was your firstborn? 505 00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:03,059 She was. Yes. And... 506 00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:05,139 you know, she was... 507 00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:08,140 everything that a parent could wish for. 508 00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:12,860 Beautiful, bright, lively, intelligent, yeah. 509 00:34:13,740 --> 00:34:16,820 And, we were very proud of her. 510 00:34:26,140 --> 00:34:28,980 A very kind guy who was organising all this for me... 511 00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:31,819 said, 'Anything else I can do?' 512 00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:35,380 So, I said, 'Yes. 'Could I have a lock of her hair?' 513 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:39,860 He was kind enough to do that. 514 00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:47,740 Human kindness can be very important when these things happen. 515 00:34:57,340 --> 00:35:00,819 VICTORIA: The immediate need that I had, and a lot of the other families 516 00:35:00,820 --> 00:35:04,219 was to find out how to get our loved ones identified, 517 00:35:04,220 --> 00:35:05,940 and how to get them home. 518 00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:12,140 The US State Department was supposed to be helping us... 519 00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:14,779 but they weren't. 520 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:19,379 Our government abdicated... all their responsibility and role 521 00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:22,739 of, um, crisis management and assistant 522 00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:25,299 to the victims' families to Pan Am. 523 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:27,379 And so here's Pan Am, who... 524 00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:30,539 is really circling the wagons thinking, 525 00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:32,380 'Oh well we might be sued, or whatever'. 526 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:35,500 And they weren't helping us at all. 527 00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:45,900 DAVID: No-one does come to Lockerbie with clean hands. 528 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:50,059 There's so many twists and turns in this whole story, 529 00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:52,380 from the very first day that it happens. 530 00:35:53,740 --> 00:35:55,699 People trying to get off the hook, you know? 531 00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:58,019 The insurers trying to pass the buck. 532 00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:00,380 The airline trying to save itself. 533 00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:05,699 It was just a mass of people. 534 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,419 There were people from the FBI. 535 00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:10,340 Obviously. 536 00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:14,139 There were also people from murkier ends of... 537 00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:17,339 of the US intelligence community... 538 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:20,739 on the ground there, as you would expect. 539 00:36:20,740 --> 00:36:25,219 You know, I just don't understand why they would bother denying it. 540 00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:27,260 But they do to this day. 541 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,739 Nothing is what it seems in the Lockerbie story. 542 00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:35,300 You know, nothing quite adds up. 543 00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:42,059 JIM: The flight on which Flora got her seat at the last minute 544 00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:44,659 was only two-thirds full. 545 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:47,779 How many flights, two or three days before Christmas, 546 00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:50,459 to the States, are only two-thirds full? 547 00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:54,299 Answer - only those fights where people have been warned off. 548 00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:56,139 She wasn't warned off. 549 00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:58,020 Nobody told us. 550 00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:01,219 INTERVIEWER: What was the 'Helsinki Warning'? 551 00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:03,619 Yeah. We did some filming with Jim Swire, 552 00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:06,059 and he still remains angry about it. 553 00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:08,019 DICK: Yeah. And I understand that. 554 00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:10,820 I totally understand that and he's right. 555 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:17,539 In early December, 556 00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:22,099 someone called the US Embassy in Helsinki 557 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:24,140 and made a threat. 558 00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:29,419 Within two weeks' time, 559 00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:33,899 someone will carry a bomb on board a Pan Am flight 560 00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:36,900 from Frankfurt to the United States. 561 00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:44,979 People working for US agencies 562 00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:46,860 were made aware of that warning... 563 00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:50,379 and were given the chance 564 00:37:50,380 --> 00:37:53,339 to make alternative arrangements. 565 00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:56,979 Whereas the normal travelling public weren't given that chance. 566 00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:59,459 The American authorities 567 00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:03,219 put notices up on the noticeboards of their embassies, 568 00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:06,659 telling them that there'd been a terrorist threat to this flight, 569 00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:10,379 and they might want to avoid then to get home for Christmas, you see - 570 00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:12,859 to their families in the United States. 571 00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:16,259 The sabotage theory was given further weight this morning, 572 00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:18,939 when it emerged that American diplomats in Europe... 573 00:38:18,940 --> 00:38:22,339 were warned that a Pan Am plane could be a terrorist target. 574 00:38:22,340 --> 00:38:26,379 Interpol warned airlines and police authorities in 147 countries, 575 00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:28,059 including Britain. 576 00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:32,419 VICTORIA: There were over ten bomb warnings on these flights. 577 00:38:32,420 --> 00:38:34,779 And we wanted to know who got the warnings 578 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,700 and what did our government do about it? 579 00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:41,499 WOMAN: We receive dozens of threats each day. 580 00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:46,819 We notified the people who have responsibility for security. 581 00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:49,219 DICK: If nothing else, it looked bad. 582 00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:53,139 'We protect ourselves. We don't protect you'. 583 00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:55,819 And I feel that we had a responsibility 584 00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:58,579 to let everybody know there was this potential threat. 585 00:38:58,580 --> 00:39:00,619 Such a public statement, 586 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:03,859 with nothing more to go on than an anonymous telephone call... 587 00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:07,339 you'd literally have closed down the air traffic in the world. 588 00:39:07,340 --> 00:39:10,420 REPORTER: Mr Reagan... (AUDIO DAMPENS SPEECH) 589 00:39:15,980 --> 00:39:17,739 No. 590 00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:19,499 Obviously, Pan Am wasn't mandated 591 00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:22,739 to enhance security, search the plane, 592 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:24,939 or warn the passengers. 593 00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:27,299 But what really petrified all of us 594 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,819 is that this was going to happen to somebody else. 595 00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:31,659 And we didn't want any American - 596 00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:34,220 anybody - to go through what we had gone through. 597 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,140 JIM: All I was after was the truth. 598 00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:44,099 I felt I had a right to know the truth 599 00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,139 about how my daughter had come to be killed. 600 00:39:46,140 --> 00:39:48,779 And why she wasn't protected against being killed. 601 00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:52,739 And those were the bases in which we very soon found... 602 00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:56,940 we were being ritually and profusely deceived by the authorities. 603 00:40:21,940 --> 00:40:25,579 MICK: A number of items of wreckage, passenger baggage 604 00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:28,579 and part of the framework of a metal luggage pallet... 605 00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:32,380 are being examined by Ministry of Defence scientists. 606 00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:35,339 Each of these will be subjected 607 00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:39,420 to lengthy chemical and metallurgical forensic examination. 608 00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:43,579 However... 609 00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:45,419 it has been established 610 00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:49,179 that two parts of the metal luggage pallet's framework... 611 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:51,179 show conclusive evidence... 612 00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:53,420 of a detonating high explosive. 613 00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:58,339 Much investigative work remains to be done 614 00:40:58,340 --> 00:41:01,459 to establish the nature of the explosive device, 615 00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:04,019 what it was contained in, 616 00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:06,819 its location in the aircraft, 617 00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:08,979 and the sequence of events... 618 00:41:08,980 --> 00:41:11,179 immediately following its detonation. 619 00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:15,459 From what you've heard, you'll understand that this operation 620 00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:18,619 has developed into a criminal inquiry... 621 00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:20,899 of international dimensions. 622 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:25,179 There is no doubt anymore, the 259 passengers and crew 623 00:41:25,180 --> 00:41:27,940 of Flight 103 were killed by a bomb. 624 00:41:28,980 --> 00:41:31,779 DICK: Within a week, we knew 625 00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:34,939 that it was a terrorist attack against the United States - 626 00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:38,579 and against an American carrier - that killed 270 people. 627 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:41,139 What we wanna do is find out who did it. 628 00:41:41,140 --> 00:41:44,139 And bring them to justice, you bet. 629 00:41:44,140 --> 00:41:46,859 At the time, it was the biggest terrorist attack 630 00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:49,580 against the United States in history. 631 00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:55,420 And of course, you have to think what was the logic and the reason? 632 00:41:59,260 --> 00:42:02,059 BRUCE: The mid-1980s were really a remarkable time, 633 00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:04,699 in terms of international terrorism. 634 00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:08,979 Virtually every day, there was some news of some new terrorist attack, 635 00:42:08,980 --> 00:42:12,259 airplane hijackings, airplane bombings, 636 00:42:12,260 --> 00:42:15,300 attacks on embassies, assassinations of individuals. 637 00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:21,100 And there was a veritable alphabet soup of terrorist groups. 638 00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:25,779 There was ANO, the Abu Nidal Organization, 639 00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:30,019 PFLP, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, PFLPGC - 640 00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:34,539 the Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine General Command - 641 00:42:34,540 --> 00:42:38,819 the Provisional Irish Republican Army, PIRA, Hezbollah. 642 00:42:38,820 --> 00:42:41,139 (MAN YELLS IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE) 643 00:42:41,140 --> 00:42:44,339 (CROWD CHANTS) And it sort of the fed the anonymity. 644 00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:46,939 Like, who were these people? Who was behind them? 645 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:48,980 Why were they doing these things? 646 00:42:49,940 --> 00:42:52,819 And it's often very hard to find clear answers. 647 00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:56,779 Or the certainty that we wish we could attach to terrorist incidents, 648 00:42:56,780 --> 00:42:59,860 that exist in the rest of the world. 649 00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:04,979 But we have to understand, just like in physics, 650 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:07,220 every action has a reaction. 651 00:43:16,180 --> 00:43:19,700 There was a war going on in the Middle East between Iran and Iraq. 652 00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:23,779 And the US government 653 00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:26,619 had gone at the request of the government of Kuwait, 654 00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:30,339 and put American flags on tankers coming out of Kuwait, 655 00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:32,339 bringing oil to the West. 656 00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:34,699 SAILOR: (ON RADIO) You're approaching a US Navy warship, 657 00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:37,179 bearing zero-nine-zero, five nautical miles from you. 658 00:43:37,180 --> 00:43:40,179 USS Vincennes was a navy ship, 659 00:43:40,180 --> 00:43:42,499 that was sent into the Persian Gulf, 660 00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:44,660 to protect those Kuwaiti tankers. 661 00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:48,019 And we told both Iran and Iraq, 662 00:43:48,020 --> 00:43:52,299 'Any attack on any one of these Kuwaiti tankers 663 00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:54,699 'is an attack on the United States'. 664 00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:56,579 REPORTER: It was July the 3rd. 665 00:43:56,580 --> 00:43:58,779 And the cruiser Vincennes was on patrol, 666 00:43:58,780 --> 00:44:00,619 in the northern straits of Hormuz. 667 00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:02,579 (RADIO CHATTER) 668 00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:04,579 (SHIP HORN BLASTS) 669 00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:07,139 By mid-morning though the picture had changed for the worse. 670 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:10,779 A total of 13 Iranian gun boats were sighted in the area, 671 00:44:10,780 --> 00:44:13,859 and the Vincennes sighted two of them closing fast. 672 00:44:13,860 --> 00:44:16,139 Got a visual on the... (AUDIO DROWNS SPEECH) MAN: 29. 673 00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:18,419 Coming inbound fast. 674 00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:20,539 Three-five-zero inbound. 675 00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:23,099 Three five zero relative... (AUDIO DROWNS SPEECH) Relative. 676 00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:25,139 (GUN FIRES) 677 00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:27,739 (AUDIO DROWNS SPEECH) 678 00:44:27,740 --> 00:44:31,020 Zero-zero-four troop, 21 miles. 679 00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:42,459 BRUCE: The USS Vincennes... 680 00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:45,900 thought the plane was a suicide attack against the ship. 681 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:53,620 (RADIO CHATTER) Oh, dead! 682 00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:58,380 We had him. God, that was a dead-on! 683 00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:07,139 DICK: But... 684 00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:10,819 it was an Iran airbus, a commercial flight. 685 00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:13,980 Flight 655, killing everyone on board. 686 00:45:24,860 --> 00:45:29,339 TV: The United States has admitted it shot down an Iranian airliner 687 00:45:29,340 --> 00:45:31,539 over the Gulf early this morning. 688 00:45:31,540 --> 00:45:34,339 The Iranians say 290 people were on board, 689 00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:36,179 66 of them children. 690 00:45:36,180 --> 00:45:39,660 And they say 110 bodies have been recovered so far. 691 00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:44,259 MAN: This has not been a mistake. 692 00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:46,740 This was cold-blooded murder. 693 00:45:47,780 --> 00:45:49,779 (WAILING) 694 00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:53,219 By definition, it was an act of terrorism, 695 00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:56,580 which I hope you agree that should be severely punished. 696 00:45:57,740 --> 00:46:01,580 REAGAN: I won't minimise the tragedy we all know that it was a tragedy. 697 00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:06,459 But we're talking about an incident in which a plane - 698 00:46:06,460 --> 00:46:08,299 on radar - 699 00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:11,819 was observed coming in the direction of a ship in combat. 700 00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:15,179 So, I think it was an understandable accident, 701 00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,660 to shoot and think that they were under attack from that plane. 702 00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:21,779 MAN: We will, of course, in due course, 703 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:24,979 have our own response to the American crimes. 704 00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:27,499 INTERVIEWER: Would it be a military response? 705 00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:31,099 Well, I do not disclose what kind of response... 706 00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,379 would be from our side. 707 00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:36,899 But naturally, a prepared and measured response 708 00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:38,939 to the magnitude of the crime. 709 00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:42,340 (CROWD CHANTING) Down, down USA, down, down USA, down, down USA. 710 00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:47,419 DICK: We knew that the government of Iran 711 00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:50,219 were very angry at the United States. 712 00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:53,219 But they were not the only country. 713 00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:55,339 (MEN SPEAK IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE) 714 00:46:55,340 --> 00:46:57,739 We had a whole list of others, 715 00:46:57,740 --> 00:47:00,459 who we felt could well have been involved. 716 00:47:00,460 --> 00:47:04,419 In the universe of terrorism and state sponsors of terrorism, 717 00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:08,419 there's no shortage of suspects, with renegade or rogue countries, 718 00:47:08,420 --> 00:47:12,899 such as Iran and Iraq, Libya, Syria, 719 00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:16,099 sponsoring terrorism as an instrument of foreign policy. 720 00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:19,339 And to attempt to develop a system of cut-outs 721 00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:22,219 to obscure their involvement... 722 00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:25,260 so you don't have the smoking gun to justify military retaliation. 723 00:47:27,420 --> 00:47:30,020 You need to have direct evidence. 724 00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:36,579 But in January of 1989, the Scots hadn't even found all the suitcases. 725 00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:39,980 They hadn't brought in all the aircraft parts. 726 00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:45,580 And then in late January, early February... 727 00:47:46,940 --> 00:47:48,940 we found a suitcase. 728 00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:56,499 Many of the suitcases that fell 31,000 feet to the ground 729 00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:59,739 would have been a great commercial - they fell intact. 730 00:47:59,740 --> 00:48:03,060 You could take the clothes out, put them on and go to a meeting. 731 00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:10,780 But this suitcase was in about 54 pieces and fragments. 732 00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:14,779 We pretty much thought... 733 00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:17,460 that suitcase contained the explosive - 734 00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:20,540 the bomb that blew up the plane. 735 00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:28,339 That suitcase was determined to be a Samsonite Silhouette 4000, 736 00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:30,900 antique copper in colour. 737 00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:35,379 JIM: It was in the hold of Pan Am 103, 738 00:48:35,380 --> 00:48:38,380 where the bomb exploded and murdered my daughter. 739 00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:44,139 The British authorities had been warned well before Lockerbie, 740 00:48:44,140 --> 00:48:46,419 and had essentially done nothing. 741 00:48:46,420 --> 00:48:48,459 VICTORIA: If it's up to our government, 742 00:48:48,460 --> 00:48:51,939 we might not ever know why Pan Am 103... 743 00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:53,819 was blown out of the sky. 744 00:48:53,820 --> 00:48:56,139 Oh, I think I know... 745 00:48:56,140 --> 00:48:58,420 who was responsible for killing her. 746 00:48:59,460 --> 00:49:01,020 And I think I could prove it. 747 00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:05,459 The families of accidental activists, 748 00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:09,500 we wanted to make sure this didn't happen again - we wanted the truth. 749 00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:31,659 EDWIN: I have written a short statement. 750 00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:35,219 And, uh, I will start with this. 751 00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:38,940 AccessibleCustomerService@Sky.uk 57081

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