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The following programme
contains distressing scenes.
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MARGARET: That night...
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we wondered why they were racing
through from one field to another.
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We thought, 'What has
scared the sheep?'
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HUGH: We were very lucky
there was no sheep killed,
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with all the... Everything that
came down... everything coming down.
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This is the red suitcase.
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That was quite the thing to see.
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Well, there's the house.
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That's how near it was. These things
were all in front of the house, yeah.
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That's a trolley, I
think, a food trolley.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And that was the door.
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That we found, yeah.
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We just thought,
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'Just a few hours before,
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'they'd all gone in
that door, hadn't they?'
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And here, it's
lying amongst them.
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Yeah.
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TV: Pan Am Flight 103 crashed into
the Scottish village of Lockerbie.
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270 lives lost.
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It was Britain's
worst ever air crash.
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REAGAN: (TV) We have no knowledge
of how this accident happened.
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We're trying to find out.
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MAN 1: It was an
attack on America.
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MAN 2: Largest crime
scene in history.
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MAN 3:200,000
pieces of evidence.
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JIM: My daughter hadn't
died in an accident -
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she has been brutally murdered.
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MAN 4: They killed our children.
MAN 5: To be lied to for 30 years
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MAN 6: I think the US
Government had an agenda.
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GADDAFI: Reagan is the biggest
terrorist in the world.
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VICTORIA: If it's up
to our government,
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we might not ever
know the truth.
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MAN: Nothing is what it
seems in the Lockerbie story.
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JIM: Come on. Come on.
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Sit, there's a good boy.
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You stay there.
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You stay there, OK.
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'Both my grannies came
from the Isle of Skye.
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'And Flora - my daughter Flora -
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'was very fond of Skye, she used to
come up here whenever she could.'
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INTERVIEWER: That's
a picture of her...
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'just behind you on the
wall over there isn't it?
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That is her attending
the Skye Ball.
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She was a very striking girl.
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Very easy to talk to
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and to get to know.
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And she used to make
her own dresses...
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and not because I pushed her.
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But she finally decided
to go into medicine.
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And she was actually part way
through her medical training.
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She was just on the eve
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of her 24th birthday
that year, 1988.
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She rang up to ask
us if we minded
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if she went over to America...
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to meet her boyfriend
over Christmas.
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And of course, um,
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not being total ogres, we said,
'Yes if that's what you want to do'.
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Everything was booked up, except
there were plenty of seats available
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on a certain flight
known as Pan Am 103...
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which is why we're talking now.
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(DOG BARKS)
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COLIN: Before, you know, 1988,
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no-one had really ever
heard of Lockerbie.
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It was dotted on the A74,
on the way to Glasgow.
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You might have had a stop-in at the
chip shop for a bite to eat, maybe.
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Life here was...
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just... undramatic, you know?
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The 21st of December 1988
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will stay with me forever.
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It was three months
into my police career,
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I was just about to turn 19.
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And I happened to be the youngest
recruit in Scotland at the time too.
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Got into the car
about... twenty to seven,
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to be at a Christmas party
just outside the town.
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(DOG BARKS)
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We were actually plucking
turkeys for Christmas. (LAUGHS)
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So, we had help, and we were
all sitting round the table
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having our supper,
through in the kitchen.
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HUGH: It was a dark, - windy night, yeah.
- It was.
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DAVE: I was only 17.
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Basically, we were just sitting
watching the television.
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My father was away, getting
a turkey for Christmas.
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('THIS IS YOUR LIFE'
THEME TUNE PLAYS)
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I think we were watching
'This is Your Life'.
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(PLANE ENGINE REVS OVERHEAD)
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(TV BACKGROUND CHATTER)
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TV: Now, we're planning to give
a Christmas surprise to the man
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who, 40 years ago,
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brought this loveable
character to life.
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And it was three
minutes past seven.
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(TV AUDIENCE APPLAUDS)
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I can always remember three
minutes past seven that night.
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ASPEL: (ON TV) And I'm here to say,
Harry Corbett, 'This is Your Life'.
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PETER: I heard this
loud noise. (DOG BARKS)
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We heard, like, banging
bang, bang, bang.
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(BIRDS SQUAWK)
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And the pheasants
were all shouting.
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(BIRD SQUAWKS)
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So, we all jumped up,
looked out the window.
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There was like a great
big mushroom ball of fire.
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You could see the thing
just over the hill,
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that was just sort of
coming out of Lockerbie.
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There was glass.
(CAR ALARM WAILS)
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Oh my God.
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Unbelievable.
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Everywhere.
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(POLICE RADIO CHATTER
AND SIREN WAILS)
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WOMAN: (ON RADIO) Over.
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MAN: Come on, Jack.
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Over.
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MAN: (ON RADIO) Over.
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COLIN: I thought I was witnessing
some kind of chemical tanker crash
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on the A74 ahead of me.
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And then a sergeant
emerged out of the smoke,
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and he said, 'Colin, there's a hole
in the road in Sherwood Crescent.
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'You'd better go to the
police station and sign on'.
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Move back please folks,
live electricity cable.
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We thought it was a
military aircraft,
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because they were still
practising in the dark, you see.
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We just thought, 'Oh, my goodness,
one of them boys have crashed.'
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WOMAN: We seen the
house lighting up.
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Keith has gone to the door. 'Just
shut it cos it's too frightening.'
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Oh, my God, it was terrible.
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And then sparks, and then
the whole thing went down.
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(STUTTERS) Oh, I didn't
know what was happening.
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Like, I just got a
fright. Shaking, I was.
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(SIREN WAILS IN DISTANCE)
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People were completely
numb and confused.
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Why was there a huge explosion
at one end of the town,
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and why was the other end
of the town also affected?
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It didn't initially
make any sense.
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After supper, we just
set off down the hill.
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Here's stuff lying on
the side of the road.
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And we had took one
look, and we thought,
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'This has been no
military plane'.
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We could tell, it must
have been a passenger.
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And you were guessing how many
people maybe was on that plane.
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And you would think,
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'My goodness! How many hundreds of
people are in mourning right now?'
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REPORTER: (ON TV) Before we go,
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we have an unconfirmed report
from the Ministry of Defence
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that a Boeing 747 airliner -
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we know only that it's
a civilian airliner -
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has crashed in the Lockerbie
area of Dumfriesshire.
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We don't know what airline,
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but the report makes it plain
that it is a civilian airliner.
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JIM: I was making a
Christmas calendar,
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to send out to
members of the family.
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And I was suddenly and abruptly
called by my wife Jane,
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because, on the television,
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there was this message
about a terrible disaster
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happening in the borders
between Scotland and England.
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And Jane concluded
immediately that...
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Flora was on that plane.
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(POLICE RADIO CHATTER)
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MAN: Aircraft
involved, a Pan Am 747.
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VICTORIA: The radio reported
that a Pan American flight
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had disappeared from radar.
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Flight 103.
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And I said to my mother,
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'Oh that's the flight that John's
gonna come home on tomorrow'.
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(SIREN WHOOPS)
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And I said, you know,
'Those families...
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'..they're never gonna
be the same again'.
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And, um...
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and so everybody
bowed their head.
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And we...
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we just had our
moment of silence,
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and a bit of a prayer...
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and, um, I didn't
realise that, you know,
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I was really praying
for myself and...
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and my family and...
I never imagined that,
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you know, um, this...
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this was something
that I would ever be...
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a part of.
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DAVID: I was working for
Radio Forth in Edinburgh.
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Fortunately, I found someone
in the radio station -
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who comes from the area -
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and was able to navigate me right
into the middle of the town.
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INTERVIEWER: So, you were one of
the first journalists on the ground?
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Yeah. I would imagine so, yes.
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(SIREN WAILS)
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The first thing you noticed
was an overwhelming...
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stink of aviation fuel
filled the whole town.
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It was such a bizarre scene, because
it was so close to Christmas.
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There was no electricity, obviously
the lights in the houses were out.
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But the light of the
flames, you could...
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quite clearly see Christmas
trees and Christmas decorations.
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It was really hard
to comprehend...
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exactly what had happened.
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I mean, Imagine when I said,
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'Oh the golf course is covered
in bodies, apparently'.
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You're kind of built
in to dismiss that,
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you'd think 'Oh
that can't be true',
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you know, 'it's obviously
just small town exaggeration',
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and, of course, it's exactly
what... what had happened.
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The golf course was
covered in bodies.
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MAN: There have been no survivors
reported from the crashed aircraft.
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And we're waiting for Dr Hill to
give us an official 'stand down'.
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He's not prepared to do so,
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because they still have several
helicopters flying around the area,
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bringing in casualties.
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But so far as I can make out,
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these casualties are...
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are corpses.
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And I think we could
quite safely say -
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to those who have
turned up voluntarily -
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we probably won't
require their services.
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And thank you very
much for coming out.
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JIM: Very early on the morning,
not long after dawn had broken...
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we flew out to Lockerbie.
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DAVID: (ON DEVICE) There's an
enormous hole in the ground
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where Pan Am Flight 103...
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is thought to have made its
first contact with the ground.
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It must be about 30 feet deep,
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and, on either side of the hole,
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houses are absolutely shattered.
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And as we move over Lockerbie, you
can see the trail of devastation -
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wreaked by the 747 -
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as it bounced and burnt
its way across the town.
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We're now flying right out along the
trail of the wreckage and debris.
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The fields here are littered
with what are easily recognisable
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as parts of the
fuselage and wings...
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of the 747...
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stretching out in a seemingly
straight line of death.
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I've been told that the crew were
found strapped in their seats,
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in the cockpit.
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Gosh.
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Yeah.
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(SIGHS) Yeah, it was a...
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it was, you know, an image
you just won't forget.
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And we were low
enough to, you know,
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to quite clearly
see features and...
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see that people were...
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to all intents and purposes, just,
you know, sitting out in the grass.
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But of course,
they were all dead.
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HUGH: The body we found...
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would be the furthest
from Lockerbie,
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the furthest away
from the crash site.
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MARGARET: Mm-hm.
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It looked like a young person.
244
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A full head of hair
and... Black hair.
245
00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:06,020
Black, shiny hair, yeah.
246
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He was lying on the ground
with a sheet on top of him.
247
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You desperately wanted
to know who he was.
248
00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:21,259
And we were thinking
about a young wife...
249
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maybe children, parents.
250
00:16:24,340 --> 00:16:28,420
You know, you started trying
to put a picture together.
251
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Aye.
252
00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:35,659
We developed quite a love for 'our - boy', as we called him.
- Yes, aye.
253
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You know...
254
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we didn't know who he
was... No... at all.
255
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But you got attached
to him in some way.
256
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For nearly 24 hours, we were...
257
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keeping an eye on him
up there, you know.
258
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Just about 3 o'clock in the
afternoon, the next afternoon,
259
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before they came for the man.
260
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(SHEEP BLEAT)
261
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DAVE: My father came back,
past Tundergarth Church,
262
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where the cockpit was and...
263
00:17:18,340 --> 00:17:20,620
he said that we
would go out and see.
264
00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:28,859
(RADIO CHATTER) People were
going home for Christmas.
265
00:17:28,860 --> 00:17:31,259
So, there was Christmas
presents and luggage and...
266
00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:33,259
obviously, the...
267
00:17:33,260 --> 00:17:35,300
the bodies.
268
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We found a toddler,
just over that hedge,
269
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in that... in the next field.
270
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She was just this little girl
with blonde, blonde hair.
271
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It's the one thing
that sticks in my mind.
272
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My father didnae want the
bodies getting attacked
273
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by foxes or wildlife.
274
00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:07,419
We were out in the pickup
truck, and we just lifted them,
275
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and we took them into Lockerbie.
276
00:18:10,700 --> 00:18:13,300
We were trying to do
what we could do to help.
277
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TV: Police and rescue services have
so far recovered about 150 bodies.
278
00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,699
60 of them were found
on a golf course.
279
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About 40 others found
on a housing estate.
280
00:18:24,260 --> 00:18:27,660
And, again, about another 50
on another housing estate.
281
00:18:28,580 --> 00:18:31,979
Most of the bodies lie where police
and rescue services found them,
282
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covered by tarpaulins.
283
00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:38,100
My father, he never
really talked about it.
284
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I suppose the death
and the bodies
285
00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:44,940
maybe just affected him a
bit more is what it was.
286
00:18:46,820 --> 00:18:50,339
But, in them days, it was just
basically you had to deal with,
287
00:18:50,340 --> 00:18:53,580
get on and deal with it yourself,
that was just what it was.
288
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(CHATTER)
289
00:19:43,420 --> 00:19:45,740
INTERVIEWER: Wow, oh my gosh.
290
00:19:58,180 --> 00:20:00,180
Aye.
291
00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:18,019
Point me out Ella
Ramsden's house?
292
00:20:18,020 --> 00:20:20,980
That one there. Just
the end one there.
293
00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:24,340
That's it.
294
00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:31,419
REPORTER: Memories of the night
disaster came to No 71 Park Place
295
00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:33,379
will never leave the
woman who lived there.
296
00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:36,979
Ella Ramsden scrambled from
the wreckage clutching her dog.
297
00:20:36,980 --> 00:20:39,700
Her budgie was rescued
later by a fireman.
298
00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:44,299
I'm so sorry for the
people that have died,
299
00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:46,499
and their families.
300
00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,419
More difficult for them.
301
00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:50,660
I've only lost a
house, that's all.
302
00:21:15,140 --> 00:21:17,500
And just... (SIGHS)
303
00:21:23,660 --> 00:21:25,779
(RADIO CHATTER)
304
00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:29,899
REPORTER: It's now more than 12 hours
since Britain's worst air disaster.
305
00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:33,619
It's now known that 258
people died on the plane.
306
00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:37,339
Eleven local people, including
three children, are still missing,
307
00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:39,139
and are now presumed dead.
308
00:21:39,140 --> 00:21:42,219
As far as I know, I've
lost my brother-in-law,
309
00:21:42,220 --> 00:21:44,699
my sister-in-law,
310
00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:48,660
and their house is just...
there's just a 30-foot crater.
311
00:21:49,660 --> 00:21:51,739
I cannae even find the house.
312
00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:53,780
It's... It's gone like.
313
00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:56,739
DAVID: In Sherwood Crescent,
314
00:21:56,740 --> 00:22:01,380
where the wing full of aviation
fuel hit the ground and exploded...
315
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:05,420
that's where the people
on the ground were killed.
316
00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,819
And of course some of the
bodies were never found.
317
00:22:09,820 --> 00:22:11,899
They were completely vapourised.
318
00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:16,540
The houses were vapourised such
as the intensity of the explosion.
319
00:22:21,780 --> 00:22:24,219
THATCHER: It is even
worse in daylight...
320
00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:26,339
than it looked on
television at night.
321
00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:28,619
And the number of
houses that are damaged,
322
00:22:28,620 --> 00:22:30,579
Um, and...
323
00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:33,699
the people in them must've wondered
just whatever was happening.
324
00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:36,339
As indeed the people in
the aircraft must've...
325
00:22:36,340 --> 00:22:38,500
had this, well...
326
00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:41,900
it was just terrible.
327
00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:46,179
JANE: People get on planes...
328
00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:49,779
like we used to take
buses when I was a child.
329
00:22:49,780 --> 00:22:52,819
And, so, we never saw any...
330
00:22:52,820 --> 00:22:56,140
danger in Flora...
going to America.
331
00:22:58,260 --> 00:23:00,580
JIM: They put a number up,
you know the way it is.
332
00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:06,100
Heathrow, I couldn't
get through to at all.
333
00:23:07,660 --> 00:23:11,260
And eventually, we ended up ringing
the Pan Am desk in New York.
334
00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:16,460
They were able to tell us
that Flora was on that flight.
335
00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:20,819
And at the same time, we could
hear chaos in the background.
336
00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:23,700
And you could hear
women screaming.
337
00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:27,060
MAN: Whoa! (WOMAN SCREAMS)
338
00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:34,380
(WAILING) My baby!
339
00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:44,339
A lot of American families
had congregated at JFK Airport
340
00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:46,339
to get the latest
news on this crash.
341
00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:48,780
Because most of the
victims were American.
342
00:23:57,460 --> 00:23:59,299
VICTORIA: I turned
the TV back on.
343
00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:02,179
And there was an 800
number that said, you know,
344
00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:04,900
to call that number,
and it was busy-busy.
345
00:24:09,060 --> 00:24:11,459
And then finally, I, um...
346
00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,500
got through.
347
00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:18,459
I said, you know, 'I've been told
my husband was on this flight'.
348
00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:21,299
'Uh, what's his name?
What's his nationality?'
349
00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:25,219
I'm desperate. I'm saying, 'Why are
you asking me all these questions?
350
00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:28,259
'I just need to know if John Cummock
was on the flight or wasn't he'.
351
00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:32,419
And they started taking all
this different information,
352
00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:37,179
and they said, 'Well, really, we
can't confirm anything right now'.
353
00:24:37,180 --> 00:24:40,019
I said, 'So, you can't confirm
if he was on the flight?
354
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:44,339
'And you can't confirm that
this plane has crashed?'
355
00:24:44,340 --> 00:24:49,459
And, um, they said, 'No, um, we're
just taking information right now'.
356
00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:51,859
And I said: 'How cruel is this?'
357
00:24:51,860 --> 00:24:55,180
I said, you know, 'I have
three little children'.
358
00:25:02,340 --> 00:25:05,539
John happened to be
in London on business.
359
00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:09,100
And every day, we
would always talk.
360
00:25:10,780 --> 00:25:13,980
He called me first
thing on December 21st.
361
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:19,539
We had talked about preparation for
Christmas and the kids, you know,
362
00:25:19,540 --> 00:25:22,019
waiting for Santa and
daddy to come home.
363
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,699
And it was also
going to be, uh...
364
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,059
when we were gonna
be celebrating...
365
00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:29,420
our youngest daughter's
third birthday.
366
00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:35,459
He made no mention that he was
going to be changing his plans,
367
00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:38,540
and trying to come home
early and surprise us.
368
00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:45,579
TV: Now, America's number
one primetime news.
369
00:25:45,580 --> 00:25:48,659
Evening, everyone. James
Adams with Angela Robinson.
370
00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:50,979
Thanks for joining us.
Maurice is off tonight.
371
00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:53,099
'It was literally
raining fire'...
372
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,979
Of course, in the media,
everything was about...
373
00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:58,019
the flames and the wreckage.
374
00:25:58,020 --> 00:26:00,499
With more than 250
people on board.
375
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:03,579
And in the foreground
was all debris,
376
00:26:03,580 --> 00:26:06,699
and there were, you know, bodies
covered with orange tarps.
377
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,299
And in the right side
of the foreground
378
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,340
was a brown attache case.
379
00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:18,539
I'd given John that attache
case for our anniversary,
380
00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:20,580
on August 23rd of that year.
381
00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:24,699
So, that photograph
solidified to me
382
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,780
that he really was
on board the plane.
383
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:34,059
That's how, really, my...
384
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:36,219
was the beginning
of my nightmare.
385
00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:38,980
(WEEPS) Um...
386
00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:59,900
DICK: Generally speaking, 747s
don't fall out of the sky.
387
00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:03,579
So, the first suspicion was,
388
00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:06,020
something bad happened
to that plane.
389
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:12,180
The FBI, we had somebody in
charge of the investigation...
390
00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:15,380
that was me.
391
00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:18,219
INTERVIEWER: I just want
to actually start...
392
00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:20,499
I just wanted to show
you these pictures.
393
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,979
These were actually taken
by a colleague of yours.
394
00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:27,460
Oh, yeah, I know about these
pictures... some of them.
395
00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:37,060
I remember seeing
the seats, yeah.
396
00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:41,819
(SIGHS) That shoe...
397
00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:44,099
we had a picture of that shoe...
398
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:46,220
on our office wall
in Washington.
399
00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:49,619
Sort of a reminder.
400
00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:53,260
We weren't doing this for ourselves,
we were doing it for them...
401
00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:57,780
and we devoted resources to
finding out what happened.
402
00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:05,019
We have a requirement to...
403
00:28:05,020 --> 00:28:07,619
obtain the very best
evidence that we can,
404
00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:10,099
to allow us to try
and find a cause...
405
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:11,939
of the accident.
406
00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:13,700
Uh, or if it is an accident.
407
00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:17,819
To do that, we have to carry
out a very meticulous search.
408
00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:20,779
The Scottish police
had resources.
409
00:28:20,780 --> 00:28:23,899
They were a very
civilised, well-trained,
410
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:25,819
excellent police agency.
411
00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:29,219
REPORTER: Hundreds of police,
from forces throughout Scotland,
412
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:31,579
are now involved in
the search for debris.
413
00:28:31,580 --> 00:28:34,819
Reports are coming in, from far
and wide, of further sightings.
414
00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:37,179
From the very first night,
415
00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:40,219
they treated it
like a crime scene,
416
00:28:40,220 --> 00:28:44,539
with the goal of first
bringing in all of the bodies
417
00:28:44,540 --> 00:28:46,580
and all the aircraft parts.
418
00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:50,619
So, we asked, 'We would
like to work with you',
419
00:28:50,620 --> 00:28:54,419
recognising they are in
charge of the investigation.
420
00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:57,819
And the FBI is not used
to not being in charge.
421
00:28:57,820 --> 00:29:01,779
Um, I have been appointed as
the investigator in charge
422
00:29:01,780 --> 00:29:04,139
for this particular accident.
423
00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:06,979
There obviously are a
number of potential causes
424
00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:08,579
for an in-flight breakup.
425
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,859
We are looking for evidence...
426
00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:14,739
to try and find the
point at which...
427
00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:16,860
things first
started to go wrong.
428
00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:22,539
REPORTER: Pan Am Flight
103 began in Frankfurt,
429
00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:25,459
then passengers changed
planes at Heathrow
430
00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:27,419
for the flight on to New York.
431
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:29,539
Over Lockerbie, the
crew went silent.
432
00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:32,379
TV: It didn't look as though the
pilot was in any particular trouble.
433
00:29:32,380 --> 00:29:35,139
No trouble at all. They were
having normal conversations.
434
00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:37,100
And then suddenly,
the plane disappeared.
435
00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:42,899
COLIN: The aircraft was flying at
a bearing of about 320 degrees.
436
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:46,620
Kind of northwest-ish,
at 31,000 feet.
437
00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:50,779
At 07:02pm and a few seconds,
438
00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:53,500
the nose cone rips off
the front of the aircraft.
439
00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:57,659
TB: Investigators will want to
see if there was any evidence
440
00:29:57,660 --> 00:30:00,139
of a sudden cabin
depressurisation,
441
00:30:00,140 --> 00:30:02,659
that could be caused by a
massive technical failure,
442
00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:04,819
or by a bomb explosion.
443
00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:08,299
Whatever happened to this plane
may have started about in here,
444
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:11,459
an area of the plane where a
cargo hold runs underneath.
445
00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:15,339
At that point, it
starts to plummet
446
00:30:15,340 --> 00:30:18,899
and dive directly
towards the town.
447
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,019
But because it was
quite windy that night,
448
00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:22,899
as the aircraft breaks up,
449
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:25,819
the lighter things
blew much further east.
450
00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:28,619
The debris field
extended, in fact,
451
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:31,219
as far as the east
coast of England,
452
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,819
right into Northumbria.
453
00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:36,299
All of that debris field
454
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,019
had to be searched,
systematically.
455
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:42,059
Field by field, tree by tree.
456
00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:45,380
600 plus searchers had
to gather each morning.
457
00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:49,860
DICK: It was humongous.
458
00:30:52,460 --> 00:30:54,660
845 square miles.
459
00:30:56,740 --> 00:30:58,900
The largest crime
scene in history.
460
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:05,139
REAGAN: I wanna express
our sorrow and our concern
461
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:08,579
for the families and friends
of those who died in the crash
462
00:31:08,580 --> 00:31:10,939
of the Pan American flight 103.
463
00:31:10,940 --> 00:31:14,779
Christmas is a special
time for the young...
464
00:31:14,780 --> 00:31:18,419
for those who carry the twin
promises of hopes and dreams.
465
00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:22,459
And on this flight were the hopes
and dreams of many young people,
466
00:31:22,460 --> 00:31:26,300
including the tragic loss of so many
students from Syracuse University.
467
00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:31,499
A tragedy that steals the hopes
and dreams from our society
468
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,659
magnifies the loss...
to our society.
469
00:31:34,660 --> 00:31:36,700
May God be with them.
470
00:31:52,820 --> 00:31:55,539
MAN: As at half-past
three this afternoon,
471
00:31:55,540 --> 00:31:59,060
the temporary mortuary at
the town hall is now full.
472
00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:04,539
We have opened a second mortuary at
the ice rink at Lockerbie Ice Rink,
473
00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:07,699
where in total we
have now received,
474
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,460
between the two
mortuaries, 150 bodies.
475
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:16,100
We have, as yet, no positive,
formal identifications.
476
00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:30,939
JIM: I had spoken to the guy
477
00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:34,740
who had been put in charge of
the post-mortems of the bodies.
478
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,779
And I said, 'Look,
I'm a doc too,
479
00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:41,540
'and I want to see
my daughter's body.'
480
00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:46,059
And he said, 'I
understand, I'll fix it.
481
00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:48,379
'Come to the ice rink'.
482
00:32:48,380 --> 00:32:51,739
And by the time... I got there,
483
00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:55,539
he and the men with him
had taken Flora's body -
484
00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:57,739
from amongst all the others -
485
00:32:57,740 --> 00:33:00,979
and put it aside in a
little alcove with, um...
486
00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:03,459
some flowers there and things.
487
00:33:03,460 --> 00:33:05,500
(SIGHS) But, um...
488
00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:08,459
she'd been so damaged.
489
00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:11,659
She hadn't been damaged by
the explosion on the plane,
490
00:33:11,660 --> 00:33:14,259
but mainly by impact
with the ground,
491
00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:17,300
which had so altered her
face and her head that she...
492
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:19,980
well, she was
barely recognisable.
493
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:24,979
I asked him if, um...
494
00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:27,059
if I could look
at her left foot,
495
00:33:27,060 --> 00:33:30,980
because she had a little
pigmented spot on her big toe.
496
00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:35,019
So, the cloth was taken off her.
497
00:33:35,020 --> 00:33:36,939
I looked at her feet.
498
00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:39,019
There was the spot...
499
00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:41,620
on her undamaged foot.
500
00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:49,420
JANE: I didn't want to see
her when she had been killed.
501
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:54,619
I wanted to remember her as...
502
00:33:54,620 --> 00:33:56,459
I had last seen her.
503
00:33:56,460 --> 00:33:58,379
Full of life.
504
00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:00,939
INTERVIEWER: And Flora
was your firstborn?
505
00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:03,059
She was. Yes. And...
506
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:05,139
you know, she was...
507
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:08,140
everything that a
parent could wish for.
508
00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:12,860
Beautiful, bright,
lively, intelligent, yeah.
509
00:34:13,740 --> 00:34:16,820
And, we were very proud of her.
510
00:34:26,140 --> 00:34:28,980
A very kind guy who was
organising all this for me...
511
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:31,819
said, 'Anything else I can do?'
512
00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:35,380
So, I said, 'Yes. 'Could I
have a lock of her hair?'
513
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:39,860
He was kind enough to do that.
514
00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:47,740
Human kindness can be very
important when these things happen.
515
00:34:57,340 --> 00:35:00,819
VICTORIA: The immediate need that I
had, and a lot of the other families
516
00:35:00,820 --> 00:35:04,219
was to find out how to get
our loved ones identified,
517
00:35:04,220 --> 00:35:05,940
and how to get them home.
518
00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:12,140
The US State Department was
supposed to be helping us...
519
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:14,779
but they weren't.
520
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:19,379
Our government abdicated... all
their responsibility and role
521
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:22,739
of, um, crisis
management and assistant
522
00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:25,299
to the victims'
families to Pan Am.
523
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:27,379
And so here's Pan Am, who...
524
00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:30,539
is really circling
the wagons thinking,
525
00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:32,380
'Oh well we might be
sued, or whatever'.
526
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:35,500
And they weren't
helping us at all.
527
00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:45,900
DAVID: No-one does come to
Lockerbie with clean hands.
528
00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:50,059
There's so many twists and
turns in this whole story,
529
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:52,380
from the very first
day that it happens.
530
00:35:53,740 --> 00:35:55,699
People trying to get
off the hook, you know?
531
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:58,019
The insurers trying
to pass the buck.
532
00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:00,380
The airline trying
to save itself.
533
00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:05,699
It was just a mass of people.
534
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,419
There were people from the FBI.
535
00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:10,340
Obviously.
536
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:14,139
There were also people
from murkier ends of...
537
00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:17,339
of the US intelligence
community...
538
00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:20,739
on the ground there,
as you would expect.
539
00:36:20,740 --> 00:36:25,219
You know, I just don't understand
why they would bother denying it.
540
00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:27,260
But they do to this day.
541
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,739
Nothing is what it seems
in the Lockerbie story.
542
00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:35,300
You know, nothing quite adds up.
543
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:42,059
JIM: The flight on which Flora
got her seat at the last minute
544
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:44,659
was only two-thirds full.
545
00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:47,779
How many flights, two or
three days before Christmas,
546
00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:50,459
to the States, are
only two-thirds full?
547
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:54,299
Answer - only those fights where
people have been warned off.
548
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:56,139
She wasn't warned off.
549
00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:58,020
Nobody told us.
550
00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:01,219
INTERVIEWER: What was
the 'Helsinki Warning'?
551
00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:03,619
Yeah. We did some
filming with Jim Swire,
552
00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:06,059
and he still remains
angry about it.
553
00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:08,019
DICK: Yeah. And I
understand that.
554
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:10,820
I totally understand
that and he's right.
555
00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:17,539
In early December,
556
00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:22,099
someone called the US
Embassy in Helsinki
557
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:24,140
and made a threat.
558
00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:29,419
Within two weeks' time,
559
00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:33,899
someone will carry a bomb
on board a Pan Am flight
560
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:36,900
from Frankfurt to
the United States.
561
00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:44,979
People working for US agencies
562
00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:46,860
were made aware
of that warning...
563
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:50,379
and were given the chance
564
00:37:50,380 --> 00:37:53,339
to make alternative
arrangements.
565
00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:56,979
Whereas the normal travelling
public weren't given that chance.
566
00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:59,459
The American authorities
567
00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:03,219
put notices up on the
noticeboards of their embassies,
568
00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:06,659
telling them that there'd been a
terrorist threat to this flight,
569
00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:10,379
and they might want to avoid then
to get home for Christmas, you see -
570
00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:12,859
to their families in
the United States.
571
00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:16,259
The sabotage theory was given
further weight this morning,
572
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:18,939
when it emerged that American
diplomats in Europe...
573
00:38:18,940 --> 00:38:22,339
were warned that a Pan Am plane
could be a terrorist target.
574
00:38:22,340 --> 00:38:26,379
Interpol warned airlines and police
authorities in 147 countries,
575
00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:28,059
including Britain.
576
00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:32,419
VICTORIA: There were over ten
bomb warnings on these flights.
577
00:38:32,420 --> 00:38:34,779
And we wanted to know
who got the warnings
578
00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,700
and what did our
government do about it?
579
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:41,499
WOMAN: We receive dozens
of threats each day.
580
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:46,819
We notified the people who have
responsibility for security.
581
00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:49,219
DICK: If nothing
else, it looked bad.
582
00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:53,139
'We protect ourselves.
We don't protect you'.
583
00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:55,819
And I feel that we
had a responsibility
584
00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:58,579
to let everybody know there
was this potential threat.
585
00:38:58,580 --> 00:39:00,619
Such a public statement,
586
00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:03,859
with nothing more to go on than
an anonymous telephone call...
587
00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:07,339
you'd literally have closed down
the air traffic in the world.
588
00:39:07,340 --> 00:39:10,420
REPORTER: Mr Reagan...
(AUDIO DAMPENS SPEECH)
589
00:39:15,980 --> 00:39:17,739
No.
590
00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:19,499
Obviously, Pan Am
wasn't mandated
591
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:22,739
to enhance security,
search the plane,
592
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:24,939
or warn the passengers.
593
00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:27,299
But what really
petrified all of us
594
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,819
is that this was going to
happen to somebody else.
595
00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:31,659
And we didn't want
any American -
596
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:34,220
anybody - to go through
what we had gone through.
597
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,140
JIM: All I was
after was the truth.
598
00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:44,099
I felt I had a right
to know the truth
599
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,139
about how my daughter
had come to be killed.
600
00:39:46,140 --> 00:39:48,779
And why she wasn't protected
against being killed.
601
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:52,739
And those were the bases in
which we very soon found...
602
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:56,940
we were being ritually and profusely
deceived by the authorities.
603
00:40:21,940 --> 00:40:25,579
MICK: A number of items of
wreckage, passenger baggage
604
00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:28,579
and part of the framework
of a metal luggage pallet...
605
00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:32,380
are being examined by Ministry
of Defence scientists.
606
00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:35,339
Each of these will be subjected
607
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:39,420
to lengthy chemical and
metallurgical forensic examination.
608
00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:43,579
However...
609
00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:45,419
it has been established
610
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:49,179
that two parts of the metal
luggage pallet's framework...
611
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:51,179
show conclusive evidence...
612
00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:53,420
of a detonating high explosive.
613
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:58,339
Much investigative
work remains to be done
614
00:40:58,340 --> 00:41:01,459
to establish the nature
of the explosive device,
615
00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:04,019
what it was contained in,
616
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:06,819
its location in the aircraft,
617
00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:08,979
and the sequence of events...
618
00:41:08,980 --> 00:41:11,179
immediately following
its detonation.
619
00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:15,459
From what you've heard, you'll
understand that this operation
620
00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:18,619
has developed into a
criminal inquiry...
621
00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:20,899
of international dimensions.
622
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:25,179
There is no doubt anymore,
the 259 passengers and crew
623
00:41:25,180 --> 00:41:27,940
of Flight 103 were
killed by a bomb.
624
00:41:28,980 --> 00:41:31,779
DICK: Within a week, we knew
625
00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:34,939
that it was a terrorist attack
against the United States -
626
00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:38,579
and against an American carrier
- that killed 270 people.
627
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:41,139
What we wanna do is
find out who did it.
628
00:41:41,140 --> 00:41:44,139
And bring them to
justice, you bet.
629
00:41:44,140 --> 00:41:46,859
At the time, it was the
biggest terrorist attack
630
00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:49,580
against the United
States in history.
631
00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:55,420
And of course, you have to think
what was the logic and the reason?
632
00:41:59,260 --> 00:42:02,059
BRUCE: The mid-1980s were
really a remarkable time,
633
00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:04,699
in terms of
international terrorism.
634
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:08,979
Virtually every day, there was some
news of some new terrorist attack,
635
00:42:08,980 --> 00:42:12,259
airplane hijackings,
airplane bombings,
636
00:42:12,260 --> 00:42:15,300
attacks on embassies,
assassinations of individuals.
637
00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:21,100
And there was a veritable
alphabet soup of terrorist groups.
638
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:25,779
There was ANO, the Abu
Nidal Organization,
639
00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:30,019
PFLP, Popular Front for the
Liberation of Palestine, PFLPGC -
640
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:34,539
the Popular Front for Liberation
of Palestine General Command -
641
00:42:34,540 --> 00:42:38,819
the Provisional Irish Republican
Army, PIRA, Hezbollah.
642
00:42:38,820 --> 00:42:41,139
(MAN YELLS IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
643
00:42:41,140 --> 00:42:44,339
(CROWD CHANTS) And it sort
of the fed the anonymity.
644
00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:46,939
Like, who were these
people? Who was behind them?
645
00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:48,980
Why were they
doing these things?
646
00:42:49,940 --> 00:42:52,819
And it's often very hard
to find clear answers.
647
00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:56,779
Or the certainty that we wish we
could attach to terrorist incidents,
648
00:42:56,780 --> 00:42:59,860
that exist in the
rest of the world.
649
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:04,979
But we have to understand,
just like in physics,
650
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:07,220
every action has a reaction.
651
00:43:16,180 --> 00:43:19,700
There was a war going on in the
Middle East between Iran and Iraq.
652
00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:23,779
And the US government
653
00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:26,619
had gone at the request of
the government of Kuwait,
654
00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:30,339
and put American flags on
tankers coming out of Kuwait,
655
00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:32,339
bringing oil to the West.
656
00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:34,699
SAILOR: (ON RADIO) You're
approaching a US Navy warship,
657
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:37,179
bearing zero-nine-zero, five
nautical miles from you.
658
00:43:37,180 --> 00:43:40,179
USS Vincennes was a navy ship,
659
00:43:40,180 --> 00:43:42,499
that was sent into
the Persian Gulf,
660
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:44,660
to protect those
Kuwaiti tankers.
661
00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:48,019
And we told both Iran and Iraq,
662
00:43:48,020 --> 00:43:52,299
'Any attack on any one
of these Kuwaiti tankers
663
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:54,699
'is an attack on
the United States'.
664
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:56,579
REPORTER: It was July the 3rd.
665
00:43:56,580 --> 00:43:58,779
And the cruiser
Vincennes was on patrol,
666
00:43:58,780 --> 00:44:00,619
in the northern
straits of Hormuz.
667
00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:02,579
(RADIO CHATTER)
668
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:04,579
(SHIP HORN BLASTS)
669
00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:07,139
By mid-morning though the picture
had changed for the worse.
670
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:10,779
A total of 13 Iranian gun
boats were sighted in the area,
671
00:44:10,780 --> 00:44:13,859
and the Vincennes sighted
two of them closing fast.
672
00:44:13,860 --> 00:44:16,139
Got a visual on the... (AUDIO
DROWNS SPEECH) MAN: 29.
673
00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:18,419
Coming inbound fast.
674
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:20,539
Three-five-zero inbound.
675
00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:23,099
Three five zero relative...
(AUDIO DROWNS SPEECH) Relative.
676
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:25,139
(GUN FIRES)
677
00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:27,739
(AUDIO DROWNS SPEECH)
678
00:44:27,740 --> 00:44:31,020
Zero-zero-four troop, 21 miles.
679
00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:42,459
BRUCE: The USS Vincennes...
680
00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:45,900
thought the plane was a suicide
attack against the ship.
681
00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:53,620
(RADIO CHATTER) Oh, dead!
682
00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:58,380
We had him. God,
that was a dead-on!
683
00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:07,139
DICK: But...
684
00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:10,819
it was an Iran airbus,
a commercial flight.
685
00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:13,980
Flight 655, killing
everyone on board.
686
00:45:24,860 --> 00:45:29,339
TV: The United States has admitted
it shot down an Iranian airliner
687
00:45:29,340 --> 00:45:31,539
over the Gulf
early this morning.
688
00:45:31,540 --> 00:45:34,339
The Iranians say 290
people were on board,
689
00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:36,179
66 of them children.
690
00:45:36,180 --> 00:45:39,660
And they say 110 bodies
have been recovered so far.
691
00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:44,259
MAN: This has not
been a mistake.
692
00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:46,740
This was cold-blooded murder.
693
00:45:47,780 --> 00:45:49,779
(WAILING)
694
00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:53,219
By definition, it was
an act of terrorism,
695
00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:56,580
which I hope you agree that
should be severely punished.
696
00:45:57,740 --> 00:46:01,580
REAGAN: I won't minimise the tragedy
we all know that it was a tragedy.
697
00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:06,459
But we're talking about an
incident in which a plane -
698
00:46:06,460 --> 00:46:08,299
on radar -
699
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:11,819
was observed coming in the
direction of a ship in combat.
700
00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:15,179
So, I think it was an
understandable accident,
701
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,660
to shoot and think that they were
under attack from that plane.
702
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:21,779
MAN: We will, of
course, in due course,
703
00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:24,979
have our own response
to the American crimes.
704
00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:27,499
INTERVIEWER: Would it
be a military response?
705
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:31,099
Well, I do not disclose
what kind of response...
706
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,379
would be from our side.
707
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:36,899
But naturally, a prepared
and measured response
708
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:38,939
to the magnitude of the crime.
709
00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:42,340
(CROWD CHANTING) Down, down USA,
down, down USA, down, down USA.
710
00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:47,419
DICK: We knew that
the government of Iran
711
00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:50,219
were very angry at
the United States.
712
00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:53,219
But they were not
the only country.
713
00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:55,339
(MEN SPEAK IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
714
00:46:55,340 --> 00:46:57,739
We had a whole list of others,
715
00:46:57,740 --> 00:47:00,459
who we felt could well
have been involved.
716
00:47:00,460 --> 00:47:04,419
In the universe of terrorism
and state sponsors of terrorism,
717
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:08,419
there's no shortage of suspects,
with renegade or rogue countries,
718
00:47:08,420 --> 00:47:12,899
such as Iran and
Iraq, Libya, Syria,
719
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:16,099
sponsoring terrorism as an
instrument of foreign policy.
720
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:19,339
And to attempt to develop
a system of cut-outs
721
00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:22,219
to obscure their involvement...
722
00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:25,260
so you don't have the smoking gun
to justify military retaliation.
723
00:47:27,420 --> 00:47:30,020
You need to have
direct evidence.
724
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:36,579
But in January of 1989, the Scots
hadn't even found all the suitcases.
725
00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:39,980
They hadn't brought in
all the aircraft parts.
726
00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:45,580
And then in late January,
early February...
727
00:47:46,940 --> 00:47:48,940
we found a suitcase.
728
00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:56,499
Many of the suitcases that
fell 31,000 feet to the ground
729
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:59,739
would have been a great
commercial - they fell intact.
730
00:47:59,740 --> 00:48:03,060
You could take the clothes out,
put them on and go to a meeting.
731
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:10,780
But this suitcase was in
about 54 pieces and fragments.
732
00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:14,779
We pretty much thought...
733
00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:17,460
that suitcase contained
the explosive -
734
00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:20,540
the bomb that blew up the plane.
735
00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:28,339
That suitcase was determined to
be a Samsonite Silhouette 4000,
736
00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:30,900
antique copper in colour.
737
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:35,379
JIM: It was in the
hold of Pan Am 103,
738
00:48:35,380 --> 00:48:38,380
where the bomb exploded
and murdered my daughter.
739
00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:44,139
The British authorities had been
warned well before Lockerbie,
740
00:48:44,140 --> 00:48:46,419
and had essentially
done nothing.
741
00:48:46,420 --> 00:48:48,459
VICTORIA: If it's up
to our government,
742
00:48:48,460 --> 00:48:51,939
we might not ever
know why Pan Am 103...
743
00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:53,819
was blown out of the sky.
744
00:48:53,820 --> 00:48:56,139
Oh, I think I know...
745
00:48:56,140 --> 00:48:58,420
who was responsible
for killing her.
746
00:48:59,460 --> 00:49:01,020
And I think I could prove it.
747
00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:05,459
The families of
accidental activists,
748
00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:09,500
we wanted to make sure this didn't
happen again - we wanted the truth.
749
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:31,659
EDWIN: I have written
a short statement.
750
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:35,219
And, uh, I will start with this.
751
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:38,940
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