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[gentle piano music]
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[seabirds calling]
[flames crackling]
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["Growin' Up" by
Bruce Springsteen]
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- There was a certain
moment in time
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when something happened here.
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It wasn't happening
any place else.
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That mattered.
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- Asbury Park, it
was like Disney Land.
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- Asbury Park was
a honky-tonk town.
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To us, it was this exotic
feast for the eyes and ears.
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- You just floated a foot
off the ground all day long,
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lifted by this great
music all the time,
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coming out of stores and clubs.
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- We took a little
bit from here,
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a little bit from there,
a little bit from soul,
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little bit from pop, a
little bit from the sound
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on the West Side of
the tracks, you know.
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And we kind of combined
it all into the sound
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that this town and little part
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of the Jersey Shore
became known for.
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- The Jersey sound,
whether it be
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Southside Johnny or
Bruce Springsteen
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or Gary U.S. Bonds,
that Jersey sound
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is distinctively
and uniquely Jersey.
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It's not black Jersey, it's
not white Jersey, it's Jersey.
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It defines us as a group,
not separate and apart,
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but it brings us together.
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It's soul, is what it is.
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- Asbury Park's music
history goes way back,
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and a lot of has
been ignored til now,
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and we wanna give
it some recognition.
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Any city that wants
to move forward
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also has to recognize its past.
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♪ Growin' up
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♪ Work it back now
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[groovy rock music]
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[dramatic orchestral music]
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- [Big Joe Henry]
Asbury Park had been
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the creation of James Bradley,
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a Methodist who made a fortune
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selling canon brushes to the
Union Army in the Civil War.
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He founded Asbury
Park and named it
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for his faith's first
bishop in the United States.
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He wanted to create a
barrier for the Methodist
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enclave of Ocean Grove,
found to the south of Asbury,
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from the excesses of
the town to the north,
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Long Branch, whose wine,
women and gambling ways
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Bradley found
wanton and depraved.
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- Over the years
as the big hotels
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started to come up, they had
to compete with Long Branch,
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which had alcohol and gambling,
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and all the presidents
went to Long Branch,
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and eventually,
Bradley capitulated.
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It became a big playground
on the Jersey Shore,
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so you would go to
Ocean Grove to pray,
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and you'd to Asbury
to party, basically.
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- Asbury Park was
a honky-tonk town.
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They had pinball machines,
[smooth rock music]
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and rides and
hotdogs and popcorn,
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and I grew up in Ocean Grove,
the town next door to it,
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but we would cross
over the little bridge.
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There were bands
playing all the time
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and drunks and
women of the night.
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To us, it was this exotic
feast for the eyes and ears.
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We just loved it
as kids, 'cause it,
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Ocean Grove was a wonderful
place to grow up in,
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but it was boring, and
Asbury Park was this
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great sea of sin [laughs].
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- [Big Joe Henry] From
its very inception,
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Asbury Park has always
been a tale of two cities,
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literally separated by a
set of railroad tracks.
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Tours from New York would
pour out of the cars
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into the prosperous and
fashionable East Side of town
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to enjoy the luxurious hotels
and spend their vacation
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dollars in the restaurants
and nightclubs there.
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On the other side of the
tracks lay the West Side,
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where for over a century,
Italian immigrants
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and African Americans
had made their homes
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and built their businesses.
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- The West Side was created
as soon as the large hotels
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came here and they needed
maids and they needed cooks
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and they needed butlers
and carriage men.
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- Tension between the West
Side and the East Side
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has been a part of the
city its inception,
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historically going back to
the very, very beginning.
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- African Americans and
the Italians, the Jews,
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were not really permitted
east of the tracks
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for all intents and purposes.
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- Blacks were not
allowed on the boardwalk.
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My grandfather's known for
being a sand-sculpturer
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on the Asbury Park beach.
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He was really more
than just an artist,
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he was actually an
activist as well.
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People used to come from
all over to admire his work,
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and they would throw coins down.
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And he did wear like a fez
and some kind of robe thing.
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He was sneaky enough to say hey,
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I'm gonna find a way
to be on the boardwalk,
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and that way was to
be dressed in a fez
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so they really
weren't quite sure,
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and even if they did know,
they could use the excuse,
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well we didn't
know he was black.
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- Asbury was always a
little bit of a mini city,
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and it carried with it
all the same plagues
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and problems and
injustices of the day.
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[melodic folk music]
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- Asbury Park was one of
the last integrated beaches
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here at the Jersey Shore.
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In between the casino
and Ocean Grove,
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you have what was
called Chicken Beach.
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That's where the blacks
were allowed to go swimming
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during the summer time.
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And there's still hard
feelings over that, even today.
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- But the reason why
that particular plot
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of the beach was available
was because it was
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called the Muddy Hole, some
called it the Chicken Beach.
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And it was because that was
where the black people went,
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where the servants went,
and it was also the place
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where the sewage washed up.
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- Asbury Park was
legally segregated
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until probably into the
late 1940's, early 1950's,
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and of course after that
was defacto segregation.
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The main thoroughfare in the
West Side is Springwood Avenue.
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- Springwood Avenue,
in its hay day,
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was the living room for
West Side residents.
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It was the boardwalk for
the West Side of resident.
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It was the playground for
the West Side residents.
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It was home.
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- We would go and sit in a car
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or maybe go get a sandwich
and sit on Springwood Avenue
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and watch the people go up
and down Springwood Avenue,
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dressed sharp,
comin' out of clubs,
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just fun to see, it was
a show within a show.
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- Everybody thought
of Springwood Avenue,
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it was the jazz
Mecca on the shore.
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There was so much going
on in the early days,
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they had the Elks,
they had the Turf Club,
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they had Big Bill's,
they had Madonna's,
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they had the Orchid Lounge,
it was so many places
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that you could go hear
some real good jazz.
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- All the top acts used
to go in all these clubs,
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and if you were playing in
New York, you would go there,
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if you were gonna go on
your way to New York,
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you would stop in
Asbury, do some gigs,
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and then go to New York.
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- My father used to take
me to the Orchid Lounge,
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to put like Kenny
Burrell, Grant Green,
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all those kind of organ
trios or guitar trios
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who'd come through there.
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And I was way underage,
but because my father
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knew the owner, he would
let me come in with him,
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and the music was amazing
back then, just inspirational.
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To see that level
of musicianship
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up close like that was stunning.
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Totally, totally motivated
me and inspired me.
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- Jack McDuff, Charles Earland,
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James McGriff, Jimmy Smith,
Pat Martino, guitar player,
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Grant Green, Joe
Dukes, Ron Carter,
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oh god, it was, all these cats
I saw at the Orchid Lounge,
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you know what I
mean, and it's like,
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and Pat Martino's white, you
know, so what's the big deal,
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it's beautiful play,
it doesn't matter
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what color you are there,
you know what I mean?
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It was like everybody was there.
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- People drifted back and
forth across the tracks.
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Springwood Avenue
was a huge center
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of African American culture,
and you went over there
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for things, for clothes, fishes,
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for music, you went
to the Orchid Lounge,
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where it was a black club,
but you could be white
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and go there and there
wasn't any problems.
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They played a lot of
jazz, but they also had
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soul entertainers come in.
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[soulful rock music]
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- West Side there,
it was just great.
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I mean, when we were
kids, we would see
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all the top blues guys
besides the jazz guys,
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B.B. King, Hooker,
Lightnin' Hopkins,
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all the great B three
players played it then,
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Orchid Lounge, and we'd stand
outside and listen you know.
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- If you were walking
down the street
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on a Saturday night, when
I got a little bit older,
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12, 13, 14, there'd
be all these clubs,
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and they'd have the doors
open and there'd be bands,
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and they'd be doing
"What I'd I Say"
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by Ray Charles, but they'd
be using the dirty lyrics,
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and there'd be a saxophone
player, you know,
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and it just was, it
was exciting to us
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because none of that
existed in our little town.
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- The players and the
scene at that time
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was really kind of
happenin', and it was,
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there was an education to be had
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every time you walked
through a door.
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- Music on the West Side
did have a big influence
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on what was going on
along the shore area.
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Part of that was because
a lot of black artists
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would get to play in the
white clubs on the East Side,
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and musicians from the
East Side would cross
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over into the West Side
and go into the clubs
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and listen to what was going
on there and draw from that.
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No form of music
exists in a vacuum,
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everybody's influenced
by everybody else.
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- The popularizing
of black music
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that occurred in the 40's and
50's and early rock n' roll,
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it brought, you know, it
brought African American
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culture into the mainstream.
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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♪ Cr-cryin' all the time
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And if you look at Elvis,
he crossed racial lines,
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and he had a lot of soul
and a blackness to him,
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those things had a
good part to play,
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I believe, in the emergence
of the civil rights
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struggle in the early 60's.
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- Music is the only art
form that half created
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by blacks, half
created by whites.
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I think it's one of
the main reasons why,
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you know, integration happened.
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You got immediate
racial common ground.
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- I'd always said, if you
wanna see true integration,
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just get with musicians,
man, just, just,
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there's where you see it.
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You see how people can
unite and work together.
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♪ Gonna tell Aunt Mary
'bout Uncle John ♪
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♪ He claim he has the misery
but he's havin' a lot of fun ♪
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♪ Oh baby, yeah baby, woo
[rhythmic clapping]
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♪ Baby
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- Motown, makin' black
records for white kids.
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Rock n' roll certainly,
Little Richard invented it,
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and Chuck Berry was
the first major artist,
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most influential cat,
Bo Diddley had the beat,
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you know, they were gods, gods.
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♪ Hey, Bo Diddley
[crowd cheering]
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♪ Hey, Bo Diddley
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♪ Hey, Bo Diddley
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♪ Hey, Bo Diddley
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We grew up in the
Renaissance period,
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it's just the greatest
music ever made,
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it was such a big
part of our culture,
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I mean it was everything
to our whole generation.
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[upbeat rock music]
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- [Big Joe Henry] Since
it's very beginning
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as a Gilded Age getaway,
Asbury Park has always provided
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a showcase for A-list talent
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and a spawning ground
for new artists,
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with music being one
of the only connectors
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reaching across
the tracks between
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the East and West Side of town.
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By 1968, Asbury
boasted some 73 clubs,
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bars, and ballrooms
featuring live music,
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in a town of just
one square mile.
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- Every place you
went had music.
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I mean, it didn't
make any difference
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if it was a hotel, corner room,
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a little lunch place,
a bar, a restaurant,
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there was music everywhere.
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- I think it was 1964,
Ray Charles initiated
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the Galaxy of Stars down
there with Moe Septee.
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So we were used to
having, you know,
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top notch, world-class acts
coming through Asbury Park.
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- I guess I was about 16,
["You Keep Me Hangin' On"]
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dad drove us down to Convention
Hall to see Vanilla Fudge.
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That was my first
time to Asbury Park.
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Great stuff, great stuff.
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♪ You just keep me hangin' on
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- The fact that rock and
roll grew out of Asbury Park
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was in no small measure
due to Moe Septee,
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who brought rock and
roll all summer long,
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all the great English
groups, you name it,
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they played Convention Hall.
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♪ People try to put us down
[talkin' 'bout my generation] ♪
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♪ J-just because we get around
[talkin' 'bout my generation] ♪
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- The Who, Herman's
Hermits, and Blues Magoos,
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that was all one show.
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My high school math teacher was,
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his summer job was
the head of security
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at the Convention
Hall, so Mr. Michler,
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if you're out there, I
would show up and he's like
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6'5" or somethin' like that.
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And you know, the tickets
were like two dollars
283
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or somethin', I didn't
have two dollars.
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He would just look and
he would just go, go in.
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- In 1966, I went away
to camp, summer camp,
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but I came back, guys in my
class had a group at the shore,
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and their parents
somehow knew Moe Septee
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and got booked onto the opening
slot for Herman's Hermits.
289
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Their drummer couldn't make
it, and they called me.
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Playing at Convention
Hall, if you played there,
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I mean, to us in New Jersey,
that was like playing
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Shea Stadium when The
Beatles played there.
293
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♪ Your love for me
has got to be real ♪
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- Rolling Stones at their peak,
295
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you could see them ever
summer at Convention Hall,
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every major act
came to Asbury Park.
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- The rides were going,
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Rookies believe or
not in the casino,
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there were shows
both in the casino
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and the Conventional Hall.
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It was great from then on.
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[audience cheers]
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- [Big Joe Henry] In a
town jammed with venues
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for A-list talent
and top-40 clubs,
305
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one place would be completely
unique, the Upstage Club.
306
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With no liquor license,
Upstage would be
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about one thing, music.
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- There were plenty of
after-hours places around here,
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but they were for drinking.
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This was the first
after-hours place
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that was devoted to music
and devoted to young people.
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[groovy rock music]
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- When we were like
16, 17, there was,
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you know, nowhere
you could play.
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But we could go there and
play til five in the morning,
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and you know, play
for hours at a time
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in front of like a packed house.
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Where else can you do that
when you're 16, 17 years old.
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00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:21,067
- There was a place
that was needed
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for us kids, because we
couldn't go to the bars,
321
00:16:25,897 --> 00:16:29,771
and we were fortunate to
have a place where we could
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enjoy music and dance
and meet girls [laughs].
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[intense rock music]
324
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- Wow.
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It was the beginning of
something important, you know.
326
00:16:44,786 --> 00:16:46,048
Yeah baby.
327
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It was the beginning of
us coming into our own,
328
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:54,013
you know, coming
into our own world.
329
00:17:04,110 --> 00:17:06,416
- It's your youth,
it's your youth,
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it's when things were wide open
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and when a little bit
took you a long way.
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Wasn't much to the place at all
333
00:17:13,423 --> 00:17:16,035
except what people
brought to it.
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00:17:17,558 --> 00:17:18,907
It was one of those places
that there was a certain
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moment in time when
something happened here,
336
00:17:22,867 --> 00:17:27,394
it wasn't happening anyplace
else, and that mattered.
337
00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:33,052
- [Big Joe Henry] The brainchild
of Asbury Park beauticians
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Tom Potter and
his wife Margaret,
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00:17:35,097 --> 00:17:39,710
The Upstage was meant to be
a club for musicians only.
340
00:17:43,932 --> 00:17:46,674
- I knew about its opening
before it actually opened,
341
00:17:46,717 --> 00:17:51,548
'cause Tom would
invite musicians, I
was playing in a band,
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00:17:51,592 --> 00:17:55,074
probably The Moment of
Truth or Speed Limit 25,
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one of those, you know,
thousands of bands
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on the Jersey Shore,
and they used to invite
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00:18:01,906 --> 00:18:04,126
musicians after they
finished at two o'clock,
346
00:18:04,170 --> 00:18:06,433
three o'clock in the
morning, up to his place
347
00:18:06,476 --> 00:18:09,000
in Asbury to sit around and jam
348
00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:12,178
and play something
other than the top 40
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that they had been
playing all night.
350
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- After I found out
about The Upstage,
351
00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:18,793
I told Steve, and
then Steve came up
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00:18:18,836 --> 00:18:20,490
and he blew everybody away too,
353
00:18:20,534 --> 00:18:23,537
'cause Steve was a hell of a
front man and guitar player.
354
00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:25,408
So then, this became
our hang, you know,
355
00:18:25,452 --> 00:18:27,149
the two of us were
here every weekend,
356
00:18:27,193 --> 00:18:29,151
and we were inseparable.
357
00:18:31,588 --> 00:18:33,155
- Here's where we met
like most of the people
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that we know to this day.
359
00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:39,030
The freaks and
misfits and outcasts,
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00:18:39,074 --> 00:18:40,902
we all hung out here together.
361
00:18:40,945 --> 00:18:44,558
The genius of Tom Potter,
Tom and Margaret Potter
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to have like a little
sanctuary for the freaks.
363
00:18:49,867 --> 00:18:52,783
It was one big happy, freaky
family, it really was.
364
00:18:52,827 --> 00:18:55,569
- When Tom initially
had the idea to do this,
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we arrive, and you
started cleaning
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and sweeping and painting,
and then he came in
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00:19:01,052 --> 00:19:04,186
and started his magic of what
he would do on the walls.
368
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:07,450
- It was a psychedelic
electric club.
369
00:19:07,494 --> 00:19:09,844
The walls were black
and DayGlo painted,
370
00:19:09,887 --> 00:19:11,976
and you walked into it,
looked like a fun house
371
00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:13,804
you were walking into,
it was jet black walls
372
00:19:13,848 --> 00:19:17,199
with this fluorescent
paint, and although it was
373
00:19:17,243 --> 00:19:20,115
a crazy kind of carnival
kind of atmosphere.
374
00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:23,727
[invigorating rock music]
375
00:19:29,255 --> 00:19:31,561
- I remember when Tom
first floated the idea,
376
00:19:31,605 --> 00:19:33,607
he's like you know, for
people to haul stuff
377
00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:36,000
up and down two
flights of stairs
378
00:19:36,044 --> 00:19:37,785
is just not gonna
work out, he says,
379
00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:41,223
what would you think if I built
amplifiers into the stage?
380
00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:42,616
I said, well if you do it,
381
00:19:42,659 --> 00:19:44,270
there's gotta be
a lot of speakers.
382
00:19:44,313 --> 00:19:46,228
And he took me at my word.
383
00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:48,709
He put a lot of
speakers, the whole wall.
384
00:19:48,752 --> 00:19:51,799
- That whole thing was
like a wall of guitar sound
385
00:19:51,842 --> 00:19:54,845
and the PA all at once, so we
didn't need columns out here.
386
00:19:54,889 --> 00:19:57,283
- He had the front of the stage,
387
00:19:57,326 --> 00:20:00,242
where like footlights would
be on a conventional stage,
388
00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:04,507
there was a rack, and in this
rack were the amplifiers,
389
00:20:04,551 --> 00:20:08,076
Bassmans, Band
Masters, Super Reverbs.
390
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,078
- So there was four
outputs in each one
391
00:20:10,121 --> 00:20:12,254
of the Fender Bassmans,
so now you had
392
00:20:12,298 --> 00:20:15,736
a potential of eight guitar
players can play at once.
393
00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:17,128
- All the amps were there,
and all you had to do
394
00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:19,305
was take your chord,
plug it in to the thing
395
00:20:19,348 --> 00:20:21,524
and tell 'em what
speakers you wanted
396
00:20:21,568 --> 00:20:23,047
and you were off and running.
397
00:20:23,091 --> 00:20:24,614
- And then you had to
bring an instrument,
398
00:20:24,658 --> 00:20:28,618
you just showed up and
it was all done for you.
399
00:20:28,662 --> 00:20:32,187
So us being being the
lazy people we are,
400
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:35,016
that sounded like just
our kind of place.
401
00:20:35,059 --> 00:20:37,018
- The wall of
sound, there it is.
402
00:20:37,061 --> 00:20:40,151
[dynamic rock music]
403
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:49,117
- A kid with a cheap guitar
that couldn't afford an amp
404
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,119
could come here and play
because there was amps here
405
00:20:51,162 --> 00:20:53,077
for him to play on.
406
00:20:53,121 --> 00:20:54,644
If you were a kid
drummer and you wanted
407
00:20:54,688 --> 00:20:56,211
to learn how to play the drums
and you're just learning,
408
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:58,344
you could come here, there
was drums here to play on.
409
00:20:58,387 --> 00:21:00,346
You didn't have to
have a drum set.
410
00:21:00,389 --> 00:21:01,738
There's no place
around like that,
411
00:21:01,782 --> 00:21:04,611
nobody's gonna set that
up for anybody now.
412
00:21:04,654 --> 00:21:06,221
Everything's way different.
413
00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:10,269
- Tom was an ornery old
guy, but had a vision,
414
00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:11,705
he had a great vision.
415
00:21:11,748 --> 00:21:13,228
- He was a party animal.
416
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,970
- And Tom was this
big, garrulous,
417
00:21:16,013 --> 00:21:18,755
goatee, very
beatnik-y, you know,
418
00:21:20,061 --> 00:21:23,891
Bohemian, sex on
his mind [laughs],
419
00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:27,764
just huge, cursing,
quite cheerful character.
420
00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:32,291
- [Tom] What the
hell's going on?
421
00:21:32,334 --> 00:21:35,119
Oh, got it workin' now [laughs].
422
00:21:35,163 --> 00:21:38,297
Ladies and gentlemen,
The Odyssey!
423
00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:41,300
[upbeat rock music]
424
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:49,308
- He saw a place for
the youth of that day,
425
00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:51,092
don't forget it was the 60's.
426
00:21:51,135 --> 00:21:54,008
He wanted a place that
would encourage and nurture
427
00:21:54,051 --> 00:21:57,185
creativity, primarily
through music.
428
00:21:57,228 --> 00:21:59,361
- Tom Potter, what a
nut, what a great guy,
429
00:21:59,405 --> 00:22:02,886
but he was this great, big,
tall, bearded, beer-belly guy,
430
00:22:02,930 --> 00:22:06,934
and he was crazy, he
was just absolutely,
431
00:22:06,977 --> 00:22:10,764
he was a hairdresser
who looked like a biker.
432
00:22:10,807 --> 00:22:12,940
- Tom was just,
character, you know,
433
00:22:12,983 --> 00:22:16,160
he had decoupage icebox with
all these cutout nudes on it,
434
00:22:16,204 --> 00:22:17,684
and whatever it was.
435
00:22:17,727 --> 00:22:20,991
- Had this operatic-type,
monster-loud voice,
436
00:22:21,035 --> 00:22:22,863
and he scared me at first.
437
00:22:22,906 --> 00:22:24,125
- [Tom] You like that?
438
00:22:24,168 --> 00:22:25,779
I don't hear you
people in the back!
439
00:22:25,822 --> 00:22:26,736
[crowd cheers]
There,
440
00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:28,347
did you hear me back there?
441
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:29,783
- [Male Speaker 1] He had
his little set of rules,
442
00:22:29,826 --> 00:22:31,219
and everybody had
to toe the line
443
00:22:31,262 --> 00:22:33,264
or he'd call around
one of the bouncers
444
00:22:33,308 --> 00:22:35,310
to toss 'em down the
stairs, you know,
445
00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,747
just literally drag 'em out.
446
00:22:40,446 --> 00:22:42,099
- Was always a thrill
to go up the stairs
447
00:22:42,143 --> 00:22:46,234
and you know, I'd bring
an acoustic guitar
448
00:22:46,277 --> 00:22:48,454
and sit in here and
there, and Tom would say,
449
00:22:48,497 --> 00:22:51,108
alright, you go up with
him and you do this,
450
00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:53,197
and you know, you
play with this guy,
451
00:22:53,241 --> 00:22:57,724
and he was like the ringmaster,
you know, Tom Potter.
452
00:22:58,725 --> 00:23:01,118
- [Tom] Sunday night, Margaret
453
00:23:01,162 --> 00:23:03,686
and The Third Floor
will be playing.
454
00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:06,341
[crowd cheers]
455
00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:09,126
I think you wanna join them.
456
00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:13,000
- Margaret's hard to, she's
hard to sum up in a few words.
457
00:23:13,043 --> 00:23:15,045
- Margaret was initially
458
00:23:17,134 --> 00:23:20,442
of indeterminate
sexual origin [laughs].
459
00:23:20,486 --> 00:23:22,966
I came up one night and
there was some young kid
460
00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:26,187
playing the guitar,
and then I noticed
461
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:27,493
there was a little
breast hanging over
462
00:23:27,536 --> 00:23:31,105
the top of the guitar,
and that was Margaret
463
00:23:31,148 --> 00:23:33,455
and The Distractions [laughs].
464
00:23:33,499 --> 00:23:36,110
- 'Course Margaret
was just one of those
465
00:23:36,153 --> 00:23:39,896
wonderful people who just,
you know, you instantly love.
466
00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:43,726
- She cut my hair, she cut
a lot of people's hair,
467
00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:47,469
'cause that was her
main job, hairdressing,
468
00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:49,863
she had her, the
band, the house band,
469
00:23:49,906 --> 00:23:51,952
the Margaret and
The Distractions.
470
00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:54,041
- She was punk before
anybody knew what punk was.
471
00:23:54,084 --> 00:23:57,871
Her stage presence
was extraordinary.
472
00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:59,350
There were people that
just didn't understand
473
00:23:59,394 --> 00:24:02,136
what she was all about, 'cause
she wore unusual clothes
474
00:24:02,179 --> 00:24:04,443
and she had an unusual voice,
475
00:24:04,486 --> 00:24:07,446
and she, she was
happenin', she was,
476
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,928
she was lightning in a bottle.
477
00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:15,192
- [Big Joe Henry] The Upstage
did not really crank up
478
00:24:15,236 --> 00:24:17,847
until after all the
other clubs closed.
479
00:24:17,891 --> 00:24:19,458
When Asbury's best of the best
480
00:24:19,501 --> 00:24:23,549
would climb an endless flight
of stairs to jam until dawn.
481
00:24:23,592 --> 00:24:26,987
- He had an only game
in town thing here,
482
00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:28,510
because even though
some of the bars
483
00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:32,775
were open til three,
that still left Tom
484
00:24:32,819 --> 00:24:37,258
two hours of the evening
that he had all to himself.
485
00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:39,434
- You'd be up there,
and like three o'clock,
486
00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:41,436
there'd be guys who
just finished gigs
487
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,917
on the boardwalk there,
and they'd be strollin' in,
488
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,962
comin' in with their
axes and stuff.
489
00:24:46,006 --> 00:24:48,225
- Now the first floor
was like a coffee house,
490
00:24:48,269 --> 00:24:50,358
you know, like a
little restaurant.
491
00:24:50,401 --> 00:24:53,100
The whole trick was
you had to like,
492
00:24:53,143 --> 00:24:56,407
make your bones on
the first floor,
493
00:24:56,451 --> 00:24:58,801
you know, you had to
prove you were good enough
494
00:24:58,845 --> 00:25:00,977
to get to the second
floor, you know.
495
00:25:01,021 --> 00:25:04,111
- And the place had
gotten a sort of hip cache
496
00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:06,156
so that musicians,
soon as they were done
497
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,855
with their bar gigs
hustled over here
498
00:25:08,898 --> 00:25:12,380
to see who was here,
who was playing,
499
00:25:12,423 --> 00:25:14,077
to play the music they
really wanted to play
500
00:25:14,121 --> 00:25:16,123
that they couldn't
play in the bars.
501
00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:18,386
- You come down to
Asbury, you look around
502
00:25:18,429 --> 00:25:20,388
for some guys to jam with,
everybody's over there
503
00:25:20,431 --> 00:25:21,563
at The Upstage.
504
00:25:21,607 --> 00:25:24,000
- It was fundamentally
a jam club,
505
00:25:24,044 --> 00:25:28,527
people came up and you saw
what everybody's chops were.
506
00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:30,093
- Guitar players used
to come try and knock
507
00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:31,312
each other off here.
508
00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:34,141
Be me and Garry Tallent
playing the bass,
509
00:25:34,184 --> 00:25:37,231
and Southside singer or
Alby Tallon would sing,
510
00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:39,625
or Bruce would come
in a jam, Miami Steve,
511
00:25:39,668 --> 00:25:43,411
I think Ricky Disarno convinced
him to come in and play,
512
00:25:43,454 --> 00:25:46,501
Rick was always here, Davy
Sancious was always here.
513
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,155
Lot of people.
514
00:25:48,198 --> 00:25:50,200
- I was scared to go in there.
515
00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:52,986
I seen guys going in there
and never came out [laughs].
516
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:54,596
Bruce used to go in there.
517
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,034
Disappeared for three
or four days at a time.
518
00:25:58,078 --> 00:25:59,645
- I came here by myself.
519
00:25:59,688 --> 00:26:03,170
I brought my guitar, made
my way up the stairs,
520
00:26:03,213 --> 00:26:08,218
I played "Rock Me, Baby,"
Jeff Beck style [laughs].
521
00:26:09,393 --> 00:26:11,657
You know, just played it
with everything I had.
522
00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:14,573
["Rock Me, Baby"]
523
00:26:23,494 --> 00:26:25,279
Doin' just about everything,
524
00:26:25,322 --> 00:26:28,021
settin' off all the
fireworks I could.
525
00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:31,024
- Bruce, he was up there
with Little Vinnie Roslin.
526
00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:33,896
And me and Danny where
over there by the door,
527
00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:35,550
Margaret was
standing there, said,
528
00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,160
oh jeez, look at this guy.
529
00:26:37,204 --> 00:26:39,423
Margaret said, yeah, he's got
a lot of charisma, don't he?
530
00:26:39,467 --> 00:26:42,688
- I think the first
time I saw Bruce,
531
00:26:42,731 --> 00:26:46,039
you could see that he
did something special
532
00:26:46,082 --> 00:26:48,476
to the people, you know,
the reaction of the people
533
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:50,347
that nobody else did.
534
00:26:50,391 --> 00:26:53,046
- You can tell when
suddenly you've got
535
00:26:53,089 --> 00:26:55,962
everybody's attention [laughs].
536
00:26:56,005 --> 00:26:58,094
I could feel that
moment happening.
537
00:26:58,138 --> 00:27:02,359
- You knew that this guy was
headed for greatness, without--
538
00:27:02,403 --> 00:27:06,712
he got up on the stage and
he commanded your attention,
539
00:27:06,755 --> 00:27:10,933
commanded it, not by
his, not by anything
540
00:27:10,977 --> 00:27:13,544
other than his charisma,
he just stood there
541
00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:16,112
and played and sang,
and you could tell
542
00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:18,375
that this guy was goin' places.
543
00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:20,029
- And by the time
I got off stage,
544
00:27:20,073 --> 00:27:24,643
I'd made a lot of
new friends [laughs].
545
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:29,256
- Danny said, you
know, I think we wanna
546
00:27:29,299 --> 00:27:32,433
start a band with this guy,
and I said, you should,
547
00:27:32,476 --> 00:27:35,088
this guy's, you know,
he's got a gift.
548
00:27:35,131 --> 00:27:36,350
- When you've got a really good,
549
00:27:36,393 --> 00:27:38,526
when you were one of
the best in the place,
550
00:27:38,569 --> 00:27:41,094
then you were, then you
ran the jam upstairs.
551
00:27:41,137 --> 00:27:44,097
If you jammed all night,
you got paid five dollars.
552
00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:47,274
If you ran the jam, and only
a few of us ran the jam,
553
00:27:47,317 --> 00:27:49,493
Bruce, Garry Tallent,
or Ricky Disarno,
554
00:27:49,537 --> 00:27:52,975
it was only a few guys
who run the jam all night.
555
00:27:53,019 --> 00:27:55,412
And they got 15 dollars,
so that was big money.
556
00:27:55,456 --> 00:27:58,502
- We would arrange the jams,
we'd send four guys up there,
557
00:27:58,546 --> 00:28:01,288
but three of the guys, you knew
that they could make music,
558
00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:04,726
and you would put one new guy
with those three other guys,
559
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:07,990
and you knew that if
this guy even struggle,
560
00:28:08,034 --> 00:28:09,688
there would still,
that was your job,
561
00:28:09,731 --> 00:28:12,386
make sure that there's
real music goin' down,
562
00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:15,650
not just an open jam that
didn't make any sense
563
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:18,044
with musicians
who couldn't play.
564
00:28:18,087 --> 00:28:20,046
- Oh man, I saw a
lot of great jammin'.
565
00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:22,788
Billy Ryan used to drop
in, I'd say Van Zandt
566
00:28:22,831 --> 00:28:24,746
and Springsteen and
Disarno were the three
567
00:28:24,790 --> 00:28:27,140
that I remember
more than anybody.
568
00:28:27,183 --> 00:28:28,707
I remember Bruce liked
to finish the night
569
00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:33,320
with a tune by Ten Years
After called "I'm Going Home."
570
00:28:33,363 --> 00:28:34,713
To end the show, I'm going home,
571
00:28:34,756 --> 00:28:38,586
30 minutes later, he
finally went home [laughs].
572
00:28:38,629 --> 00:28:41,328
- Used to come in
after a gig at first,
573
00:28:41,371 --> 00:28:44,244
and then I started
to play with Bruce,
574
00:28:44,287 --> 00:28:47,508
and we'd come here
and stay all night,
575
00:28:47,551 --> 00:28:49,510
til five o'clock in the
morning every night,
576
00:28:49,553 --> 00:28:51,686
[laughs] it was, it was fun.
577
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:54,733
- You hone your craft here,
you get to know each other,
578
00:28:54,776 --> 00:28:56,604
get to play with
different people,
579
00:28:56,647 --> 00:28:59,476
get to play different styles,
that's what it's all about,
580
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,348
you know, playing
with Bruce one night
581
00:29:01,391 --> 00:29:04,351
and Billy Ryan another night,
that's different styles.
582
00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:07,180
- You start to learn
how to perform,
583
00:29:07,223 --> 00:29:09,399
you learn how to interact
with an audience,
584
00:29:09,443 --> 00:29:12,707
how to interact with
other band members,
585
00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:15,797
that whole interaction,
that energy
586
00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:19,279
that is what rock and roll
is all about, you know.
587
00:29:19,322 --> 00:29:20,846
- I learned almost
everything I know
588
00:29:20,889 --> 00:29:25,067
about performing and singing
from those three years,
589
00:29:25,111 --> 00:29:26,199
two and a half years at Upstage,
590
00:29:26,242 --> 00:29:28,157
because it was like our college.
591
00:29:28,201 --> 00:29:31,378
And I loved it, and I
learned not to be afraid
592
00:29:31,421 --> 00:29:32,553
of being on stage.
593
00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:34,685
- You were just
getting little snippets
594
00:29:34,729 --> 00:29:36,644
of history every time
you turned around.
595
00:29:36,687 --> 00:29:39,212
The thing that you
would never hear again
596
00:29:39,255 --> 00:29:41,388
would be on that
stage, you know,
597
00:29:41,431 --> 00:29:44,173
or the two people that you would
probably never see together
598
00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:47,133
play again, you know,
it would on that stage,
599
00:29:47,176 --> 00:29:49,570
and I think that people
who were true musicians
600
00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:54,227
and true musician listeners
knew it and loved it.
601
00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:59,275
- In The Upstage, there was
a handful of black musicians
602
00:30:00,624 --> 00:30:04,150
who braved the East Side
because they were interested
603
00:30:04,193 --> 00:30:07,631
in a wider, a more
diverse style of music.
604
00:30:08,894 --> 00:30:11,897
- Garry Tallent was standing
there next to Bruce,
605
00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:14,421
and they were organizing
a jam session,
606
00:30:14,464 --> 00:30:17,511
and he goes, you wanna, do you
wanna play, you wanna sit in?
607
00:30:17,554 --> 00:30:18,686
I said yeah.
608
00:30:18,729 --> 00:30:20,601
- First time I saw
Davy Sancious here,
609
00:30:20,644 --> 00:30:23,822
he was revolutionary,
looked like a,
610
00:30:23,865 --> 00:30:25,780
barely a teenager,
he looked like.
611
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:29,436
But he was electric
on stage, he,
612
00:30:29,479 --> 00:30:31,873
first of all, he had
enormous stage presence.
613
00:30:31,917 --> 00:30:36,138
He danced, he went
up and down the keys,
614
00:30:36,182 --> 00:30:38,749
he played better than
anybody you'd ever heard.
615
00:30:38,793 --> 00:30:43,711
And he was just, wow, where
did that kid come from?
616
00:30:43,754 --> 00:30:48,716
He came from 10th Avenue
and East Street, you know.
617
00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:51,458
- And at the end of the
jam, they were letting out,
618
00:30:51,501 --> 00:30:52,676
it's like five o'clock
in the morning now,
619
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,244
and we're all walking
home or, you know,
620
00:30:55,288 --> 00:30:57,856
walking to our
bicycles or whatever,
621
00:30:57,899 --> 00:31:00,728
and Bruce and I were
walking next to each other,
622
00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:03,165
and he goes, I'm
about to start this,
623
00:31:03,209 --> 00:31:04,950
start another band, we're
about to break up this band
624
00:31:04,993 --> 00:31:08,823
I'm in, Steel Mill, I'm
gonna start up a new band.
625
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:10,912
Would you like to
play keyboards in it?
626
00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:15,482
And you know, the rest
is history as we say.
627
00:31:15,525 --> 00:31:17,179
- David called me up
and says, you know,
628
00:31:17,223 --> 00:31:18,485
Bruce is looking
for another drummer,
629
00:31:18,528 --> 00:31:20,617
and why don't you come
on down to the club
630
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:22,619
and you know, meet us and
check out the band and stuff,
631
00:31:22,663 --> 00:31:25,361
so I went down there to
the club and heard 'em.
632
00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:26,885
Bruce was playin', I was
like checkin' 'em out,
633
00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:29,409
I was yeah, this is rockin'
man, this is pretty good.
634
00:31:29,452 --> 00:31:31,411
And you know, this guy
is rockin' his ass off,
635
00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:34,849
and it just
snowballed after that.
636
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,633
- People drifted back and forth
637
00:31:36,677 --> 00:31:39,201
across the tracks,
just as the ways
638
00:31:39,245 --> 00:31:42,901
we didn't wanna be tied
down to just pop music
639
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:47,644
or white rock and roll,
they didn't wanna be
640
00:31:48,819 --> 00:31:51,779
tied down to just
R&B or soul music,
641
00:31:51,822 --> 00:31:56,305
so those adventurous minds
tended to cross tracks
642
00:31:56,349 --> 00:31:57,654
and meet here.
643
00:31:57,698 --> 00:31:59,656
- What's unique about
The Upstage club
644
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:00,919
is it's one of the first times
645
00:32:00,962 --> 00:32:03,660
where African American musicians
646
00:32:03,704 --> 00:32:06,663
and white musicians,
they all got together
647
00:32:06,707 --> 00:32:08,839
to jam together, you know,
that's where you can see
648
00:32:08,883 --> 00:32:10,406
some of the influence
of the West Side
649
00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:12,408
probably coming in
to The Upstage club,
650
00:32:12,452 --> 00:32:14,584
it was the first
time that there was
651
00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:17,892
this mixture of
cultures in one place
652
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,242
for burgeoning rock
and roll, you know,
653
00:32:20,286 --> 00:32:23,245
and that's why I say, it was
kind of a proving ground there.
654
00:32:23,289 --> 00:32:25,030
- I'm proud of being part
of both sides of the track,
655
00:32:25,073 --> 00:32:27,684
you know what I mean, the
West Side and the East Side.
656
00:32:27,728 --> 00:32:30,687
I was able to cross over
and play with anybody
657
00:32:30,731 --> 00:32:32,733
on that side and come back home
658
00:32:32,776 --> 00:32:34,691
and play with
anybody on this side.
659
00:32:34,735 --> 00:32:39,392
So yeah, definitely I'm
proud to be a part of that.
660
00:32:39,435 --> 00:32:41,785
- My girlfriend and
I answered an ad
661
00:32:41,829 --> 00:32:44,005
in the Asbury Park Press.
662
00:32:44,049 --> 00:32:45,615
Somebody was looking
for two singers
663
00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:48,705
with a gospel sound, and
my girlfriend called me up
664
00:32:48,749 --> 00:32:50,838
and said, I think this is us.
665
00:32:50,881 --> 00:32:53,797
And I'm like, are you sure
that they really are looking
666
00:32:53,841 --> 00:32:55,712
for some singers that are
just a couple of chicks
667
00:32:55,756 --> 00:32:57,540
to come up through
this factory, you know.
668
00:32:57,584 --> 00:32:59,934
She said girl, let's get in
there and just sing, you know.
669
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,719
So we went in, my name
is Bruce Springsteen,
670
00:33:02,763 --> 00:33:04,808
he introduced himself, you know,
671
00:33:04,852 --> 00:33:06,593
he put on a little
Van Morrison and said
672
00:33:06,636 --> 00:33:08,029
the sound that he was
kind of looking for
673
00:33:08,073 --> 00:33:10,945
for this 10-piece band that
he was putting together.
674
00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,469
And we just looked at
each other and we said,
675
00:33:13,513 --> 00:33:15,080
let's sing, you know.
676
00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:19,040
And before the day was over,
he said you girls got the job.
677
00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:22,000
[catchy pop music]
678
00:33:26,917 --> 00:33:29,964
- Clarence was a local
figure of some renown,
679
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,444
because he played
in a band called
680
00:33:31,487 --> 00:33:33,533
Little Melvin and The Invaders,
681
00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:35,013
which was an all-black
band with the exception
682
00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:38,755
of Garry Tallent, and they
played in the black clubs
683
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:41,323
that surrounded Asbury Park.
684
00:33:41,367 --> 00:33:43,630
So the night Clarence came in,
685
00:33:43,673 --> 00:33:45,980
needless to say, he
was larger than life,
686
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:48,548
got up on stage,
blew that saxophone
687
00:33:48,591 --> 00:33:50,767
like it was a force of nature,
688
00:33:50,811 --> 00:33:58,775
and was a natural creature
of Asbury Park and the coast.
689
00:33:58,819 --> 00:34:02,518
There's only one, there's
not gonna be another one.
690
00:34:02,562 --> 00:34:06,000
- We didn't lead with
our interracial-ness,
691
00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:08,089
we led with our
musicianship, really.
692
00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:11,658
Because Bruce was the
best guitar player around,
693
00:34:11,701 --> 00:34:14,443
nobody played like
Clarence, I was pretty good
694
00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:16,793
at what I was doing,
Ernest Carter was amazing,
695
00:34:16,837 --> 00:34:19,448
Garry's fantastic, so you know,
696
00:34:20,841 --> 00:34:23,496
and Danny as well, all the,
that's where the power was,
697
00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:25,585
in the expression itself.
698
00:34:29,197 --> 00:34:34,376
♪ Good ol' Melinda, sure
can make a man smile ♪
699
00:34:35,551 --> 00:34:40,556
♪ Ooh, oh-ee baby, now
you're drivin' me wild ♪
700
00:34:41,731 --> 00:34:43,037
- [Big Joe Henry]
Because Tom Potter
701
00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:45,083
insisted that bands
perform original material,
702
00:34:45,126 --> 00:34:47,824
The Upstage became a
crucible for young talent,
703
00:34:47,868 --> 00:34:49,957
a late-night meeting place
where the best musicians
704
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,655
on the shore could connect
and were encouraged
705
00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:54,831
to develop their own
style, rather than cover
706
00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:58,139
top-40 hits for
the tourist crowd.
707
00:34:58,183 --> 00:35:02,143
- You wanted to do your thing,
you could do it in Asbury.
708
00:35:02,187 --> 00:35:05,494
It was here, this is
where you had to go.
709
00:35:05,538 --> 00:35:07,192
- You could do
anything you wanted
710
00:35:07,235 --> 00:35:08,671
at The Upstage club,
you could play any
711
00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:10,717
kind of music you
want, and we did,
712
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,110
we took advantage of that.
713
00:35:12,153 --> 00:35:13,894
People were writing
songs, Bruce most notably,
714
00:35:13,937 --> 00:35:17,767
but Steven too, a lot of
people played their own things.
715
00:35:17,811 --> 00:35:21,771
- It's just at that moment
when that whole shift
716
00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:24,992
in the culture was
happening from the top 40,
717
00:35:25,035 --> 00:35:29,431
from show business, you
know, formal show business,
718
00:35:29,475 --> 00:35:32,086
which is what the
bar scene represented
719
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,916
at that point with the
top 40 being required.
720
00:35:37,483 --> 00:35:41,226
And became more about
personal expression.
721
00:35:41,269 --> 00:35:43,445
- For a musician, it
was the best place,
722
00:35:43,489 --> 00:35:46,579
'cause you could cut your teeth
and you could try new ideas.
723
00:35:46,622 --> 00:35:48,146
- There was some cool
shit happening there,
724
00:35:48,189 --> 00:35:50,148
'cause they try
anything up there.
725
00:35:50,191 --> 00:35:51,584
- That was one of
the first places
726
00:35:51,627 --> 00:35:53,151
where you could begin
to do original stuff,
727
00:35:53,194 --> 00:35:55,892
but Bruce was the one
who really insisted
728
00:35:55,936 --> 00:35:58,808
on doing like, his
original stuff.
729
00:35:59,896 --> 00:36:01,028
And we got into
trouble at some point
730
00:36:01,071 --> 00:36:03,596
with club owners
because [laughs],
731
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:05,554
that's really not what
they wanted, you know,
732
00:36:05,598 --> 00:36:08,775
they wanted like a kind
of jukebox situation,
733
00:36:08,818 --> 00:36:10,690
but he insisted on
doing his own stuff,
734
00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,735
and you know, we did it.
735
00:36:15,651 --> 00:36:20,613
♪ The way you do them things
736
00:36:20,656 --> 00:36:22,223
♪ That you do
737
00:36:22,267 --> 00:36:26,793
♪ Oh I, oh I, oh I, oh I, oh
738
00:36:26,836 --> 00:36:28,621
♪ Everybody
739
00:36:28,664 --> 00:36:29,883
- [Big Joe Henry] It
was in the apartment,
740
00:36:29,926 --> 00:36:32,059
an abandoned beauty
parlor in this building
741
00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:36,759
four and a half decades ago
that New Jersey's favorite son
742
00:36:36,803 --> 00:36:40,937
captured the poetry and tragic
beauty of this seaside town.
743
00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:42,722
["It's Hard to Be a Saint in
the City" by Bruce Springsteen]
744
00:36:42,765 --> 00:36:45,638
- Well, the first record,
I had lived next door
745
00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:48,858
in the beauty salon
in Tom's apartment,
746
00:36:48,902 --> 00:36:52,601
which was a flight upstairs,
then the beauty salon
747
00:36:52,645 --> 00:36:54,951
was second floor, I
wrote all the songs
748
00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:57,215
in the back of the
beauty salon on,
749
00:36:57,258 --> 00:37:02,132
on a spinet piano that I had
from my aunt, my aunt gave me.
750
00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:07,050
So the songs were
called from characters
751
00:37:07,094 --> 00:37:08,878
both real and imagined
from the streets
752
00:37:08,922 --> 00:37:12,534
of Asbury Park, you
know, there was also
753
00:37:12,578 --> 00:37:16,016
the carnie atmosphere,
the street atmosphere,
754
00:37:16,059 --> 00:37:19,193
the sort of punk
poetry was just a part
755
00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:22,849
of the town and the
city at that moment,
756
00:37:22,892 --> 00:37:25,634
so that was how I translated it.
757
00:37:28,158 --> 00:37:32,685
You know, I passed the
postcard stand and I went, hm.
758
00:37:34,077 --> 00:37:39,082
I like this, this is me, you
know, this is where I'm from,
759
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:41,998
these are the people
I'm talkin' for,
760
00:37:42,042 --> 00:37:46,046
people from Asbury Park,
people from New Jersey.
761
00:37:51,965 --> 00:37:55,577
You had Southside bringing in
an enormous amount of blues.
762
00:37:55,621 --> 00:37:58,319
Stevie and I played,
you know, a lot of R&B
763
00:37:58,363 --> 00:38:00,843
and rock music of the
day, and then I guess
764
00:38:00,887 --> 00:38:04,282
I was the first to start
playing my own music.
765
00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:07,372
Basically unlike
Dylan or Beatles
766
00:38:07,415 --> 00:38:09,199
or, you know like
I said, who were,
767
00:38:09,243 --> 00:38:12,159
I believe were musical
revolutionaries,
768
00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:15,118
we were more
alchemists, you know,
769
00:38:15,162 --> 00:38:16,685
we took a little bit from here,
770
00:38:16,729 --> 00:38:18,948
a little bit from there,
a little bit from soul,
771
00:38:18,992 --> 00:38:21,864
little bit from pop, a
little bit from the sound
772
00:38:21,908 --> 00:38:24,998
on the West Side of the tracks.
773
00:38:25,041 --> 00:38:29,307
And we kinda combined
it all into the sound
774
00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:30,917
that this town and little part
775
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,747
of the Jersey Shore
became known for.
776
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,401
♪ I want to know
if love is wild ♪
777
00:38:36,444 --> 00:38:41,101
♪ Babe I want to know
if love is real ♪
778
00:38:41,144 --> 00:38:43,277
- Upstage was
literally like the,
779
00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:46,324
it was a Liverpool of America.
780
00:38:46,367 --> 00:38:48,413
Bruce Springsteen, of
course, came out of there,
781
00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:51,720
and all, most of the
members of his band.
782
00:38:51,764 --> 00:38:53,940
Southside Johnny
came out of there,
783
00:38:53,983 --> 00:38:58,074
David Sancious, when he was
a young kid, came over there.
784
00:38:58,118 --> 00:39:00,207
- Incredible musician,
one of the best musicians
785
00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:03,079
ever came out of this
area was David Sancious.
786
00:39:03,123 --> 00:39:06,953
- Billy Ryan was a
monster, a monster.
787
00:39:06,996 --> 00:39:09,956
I was in New York at
the Brill Building,
788
00:39:09,999 --> 00:39:11,349
and there was a guy in
there that had been working
789
00:39:11,392 --> 00:39:13,960
with Hendrix, says,
what in the hell
790
00:39:14,003 --> 00:39:16,005
was that I saw on that stage?
791
00:39:16,049 --> 00:39:19,008
I said what, he said,
that boy on guitar
792
00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:21,184
was as good as Eric
Clapton and Jimmy Hendrix,
793
00:39:21,228 --> 00:39:23,752
what the hell is he
doing in Asbury Park.
794
00:39:23,796 --> 00:39:26,320
- It was fun because
the music was so good.
795
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,801
There were lots and
lots of great musicians
796
00:39:28,844 --> 00:39:31,717
coming through there,
and a lot of them
797
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,372
had become, had
risen to the top.
798
00:39:35,895 --> 00:39:37,984
- I like to tell ya, you
know, I was dedicated,
799
00:39:38,027 --> 00:39:40,116
I was, I knew I
was gonna make it,
800
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,338
you know, I was relentless,
and I had the, you know,
801
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:47,950
I was persistent,
that's bullshit, okay.
802
00:39:47,994 --> 00:39:52,172
I was not capable of doing
anything else [laughs].
803
00:39:52,215 --> 00:39:54,827
And when the smoke
cleared, you know,
804
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:57,699
the two freaks who
really were not capable
805
00:39:57,743 --> 00:40:01,486
of doing anything else,
who were left standing,
806
00:40:01,529 --> 00:40:04,445
which was me and
Bruce Springsteen.
807
00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:05,838
[mellow instrumental music]
808
00:40:05,881 --> 00:40:07,274
- [Big Joe Henry]
But the glory days
809
00:40:07,317 --> 00:40:10,059
for The Upstage and for
the once-grand Asbury Park
810
00:40:10,103 --> 00:40:12,845
came to a sudden and
almost fatal crash
811
00:40:12,888 --> 00:40:16,718
on the Fourth of July,
1970, when a tragic flaw
812
00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:19,025
in the very
foundation of the town
813
00:40:19,068 --> 00:40:23,377
finally gave way and brought
everything down with it.
814
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,120
It promised to be a
big holiday weekend.
815
00:40:27,163 --> 00:40:29,296
The Fourth fell on a
Saturday, and local vendors
816
00:40:29,339 --> 00:40:31,864
were hoping crowds would
come to the boardwalk
817
00:40:31,907 --> 00:40:36,390
to beat the heat and enjoy a
full bill of entertainment.
818
00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:39,132
Glory Road was booked
to play The Upstage.
819
00:40:39,175 --> 00:40:42,440
Mrs. Jay's had acid
rockers, The Applecore.
820
00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:45,181
Over on the West Side,
the Houston Person's trio
821
00:40:45,225 --> 00:40:47,053
was at the Orchid Lounge,
822
00:40:47,096 --> 00:40:50,056
and Norman Seldin
& The Joyful Noyze
823
00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:53,755
was at the Banjo
Palace in Long Branch.
824
00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:55,844
Patton was playing
down at the Paramount,
825
00:40:55,888 --> 00:40:57,890
Hello Dolly! at the St. James,
826
00:40:57,933 --> 00:41:00,066
and Airport at the Mayfair.
827
00:41:00,109 --> 00:41:02,024
Promoter Moe Septee
had two big shows
828
00:41:02,068 --> 00:41:04,331
booked at Convention
Hall, Ten Years After
829
00:41:04,374 --> 00:41:07,943
on the fourth, followed by
Jethro Tull on the fifth.
830
00:41:09,205 --> 00:41:11,164
And London it-girl Petula Clark
831
00:41:11,207 --> 00:41:12,513
was set to make a
guest appearance
832
00:41:12,557 --> 00:41:16,256
at Steinbach's department
store on Cookman.
833
00:41:16,299 --> 00:41:18,519
And then for reasons
which are still not clear,
834
00:41:18,563 --> 00:41:20,782
the pot just boiled over.
835
00:41:22,131 --> 00:41:25,483
- Black people started
complainin' that in these areas,
836
00:41:25,526 --> 00:41:29,095
there was nothing for the
blacks beside the bars.
837
00:41:29,138 --> 00:41:30,531
Some people started
complainin' that
838
00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:33,012
the meat markets were
selling bad meat.
839
00:41:33,055 --> 00:41:35,928
East Side had everything
for whites, everything.
840
00:41:35,971 --> 00:41:38,844
- If you don't have the
jobs, if you don't have
841
00:41:38,887 --> 00:41:43,892
the recreation, if you don't
have the single-family housing
842
00:41:45,285 --> 00:41:48,201
in the sense, that's, what
we had was overcrowded.
843
00:41:48,244 --> 00:41:53,511
And for us, those who
lived on the West Side,
844
00:41:53,554 --> 00:41:57,950
coming up, we didn't have
access to all of the things.
845
00:41:57,993 --> 00:41:59,386
- This guy comes to
Asbury Park high school
846
00:41:59,429 --> 00:42:00,953
and he says he's a Black Panther
847
00:42:00,996 --> 00:42:04,130
and he's bringing up
all this violent stuff,
848
00:42:04,173 --> 00:42:06,175
and it wasn't the people
who lived in our community,
849
00:42:06,219 --> 00:42:09,483
it was the people on the
outside coming from other cities
850
00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:12,268
and places coming down
to cause problems.
851
00:42:12,312 --> 00:42:16,142
- There was rumors that
it was gonna happen.
852
00:42:16,185 --> 00:42:20,146
But not rumors that
reached the East Side,
853
00:42:20,189 --> 00:42:21,408
it was on the West Side.
854
00:42:21,451 --> 00:42:23,845
There was a place called
Al's House of Hits
855
00:42:23,889 --> 00:42:25,455
that was on Springwood Avenue,
856
00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:28,589
and he knew what was going on,
857
00:42:28,633 --> 00:42:30,199
and he would say, you
know, Nicky Vartin,
858
00:42:30,243 --> 00:42:34,508
next week or so and so,
these guys are coming in.
859
00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:37,337
- I got the minutes
from one of the meetings
860
00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:42,342
that I had with the
Mayor, Chief of Police,
861
00:42:42,385 --> 00:42:46,085
and I told 'em that what the
young people were saying,
862
00:42:46,128 --> 00:42:50,524
the restlessness, they had
nothin' for 'em to do, no jobs.
863
00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:55,181
Our police department was
not prepared for a riot.
864
00:42:55,224 --> 00:42:59,577
- But the city was tense,
and eventually it exploded.
865
00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:06,322
- It was the Fourth
of July, 1970,
866
00:43:06,366 --> 00:43:09,021
and I was standin' right here,
867
00:43:09,064 --> 00:43:11,545
corner of Atkins and
Springwood Avenue.
868
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:14,896
- Me and Bob had gone down
to open up for the late set,
869
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:16,550
and we're setting
up our bar stools,
870
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:20,162
we sit down there at the
door to the sidewalk,
871
00:43:20,206 --> 00:43:22,382
and we saw on the other
side of Main Street
872
00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:27,169
at Bankers Furniture, the
sidewalk's full of people,
873
00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:28,475
what's going on?
874
00:43:28,518 --> 00:43:29,737
- All of a sudden,
out of the blue,
875
00:43:29,781 --> 00:43:31,609
the young man that was
standing next to me
876
00:43:31,652 --> 00:43:33,698
pulled out a Molotov
cocktail, lit it,
877
00:43:33,741 --> 00:43:36,048
and threw it at a car
that was passing by.
878
00:43:36,091 --> 00:43:38,616
It went from just
another quiet day
879
00:43:38,659 --> 00:43:41,227
to, all hell broke loose.
880
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:44,622
- And it happened so quick
that all of a sudden,
881
00:43:44,665 --> 00:43:46,014
people are rioting
in the streets,
882
00:43:46,058 --> 00:43:48,234
they're burning buildings,
883
00:43:48,277 --> 00:43:50,410
they're attacking
places and people.
884
00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:52,412
- Heard glass break and
then saw a guy throw
885
00:43:52,455 --> 00:43:55,415
a Molotov cocktail
into the building.
886
00:43:55,458 --> 00:43:57,069
And I turned around to Bob,
887
00:43:57,112 --> 00:44:00,115
and he was already
halfway up the stairs.
888
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:03,249
I grabbed the bar stools,
locked the door behind me,
889
00:44:03,292 --> 00:44:06,948
and ran up and called
the Asbury Park police,
890
00:44:06,992 --> 00:44:11,474
and said something like,
there's a riot going on.
891
00:44:11,518 --> 00:44:16,523
[sirens wail]
[dramatic instrumental music]
892
00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:18,960
- [Big Joe Henry]
The Asbury Park Press
893
00:44:19,004 --> 00:44:20,962
reported the trouble
had started at 11 p.m.
894
00:44:21,006 --> 00:44:24,009
and was out of control
by four Sunday morning.
895
00:44:24,052 --> 00:44:26,272
Mayor Mattice ordered
a state of emergency.
896
00:44:26,315 --> 00:44:28,100
[helicopter blades spinning]
- We heard helicopters,
897
00:44:28,143 --> 00:44:30,972
I guess it was National
Guard going over head,
898
00:44:31,016 --> 00:44:33,758
we heard gun shots, I
remember running out of there
899
00:44:33,801 --> 00:44:35,063
and running all the way home.
900
00:44:35,107 --> 00:44:37,022
[screaming and crashing]
- You look out there,
901
00:44:37,065 --> 00:44:40,373
you saw people
breaking the windows,
902
00:44:40,416 --> 00:44:43,115
setting fires, they
were just ripping
903
00:44:43,158 --> 00:44:44,682
and robbing and stealing.
904
00:44:44,725 --> 00:44:48,511
- By that time, we were
angry, we were angry.
905
00:44:52,777 --> 00:44:55,127
I'll try to rationalize
it, I can't,
906
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:58,434
I can't rationalize
it, but I know that
907
00:45:00,349 --> 00:45:03,222
once you start
something, you're in it,
908
00:45:03,265 --> 00:45:05,659
you know what I mean,
once it got started,
909
00:45:05,703 --> 00:45:08,053
we were in it, we
did what we could,
910
00:45:08,096 --> 00:45:09,707
we did what we had to do.
911
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:12,144
- I was livin' in the
Surfboard Factory,
912
00:45:12,187 --> 00:45:13,623
climbed on top of
the water tower,
913
00:45:13,667 --> 00:45:18,324
and the clouds billowed,
billowed of the shore for days.
914
00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:23,677
- I can remember that the
very first time I was out,
915
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,332
and we were playing,
and we saw a big cloud
916
00:45:26,375 --> 00:45:29,030
of black smoke, and
we were wondering,
917
00:45:29,074 --> 00:45:33,731
what is that, it's like
the whole sky turned black.
918
00:45:33,774 --> 00:45:38,213
And of course, we didn't
know that it was the riot,
919
00:45:38,257 --> 00:45:40,172
but we later did find out.
920
00:45:40,215 --> 00:45:44,263
We were playing, black kids and
white kids playing together,
921
00:45:44,306 --> 00:45:47,527
and it seemed like
the next day we had,
922
00:45:48,789 --> 00:45:51,226
we were in different worlds.
923
00:45:54,229 --> 00:45:55,361
- [Big Joe Henry]
Police Chief Tommy Smith
924
00:45:55,404 --> 00:45:57,189
reported the Asbury
Fire Department
925
00:45:57,232 --> 00:45:59,539
was being stoned and
attacked as they worked
926
00:45:59,582 --> 00:46:03,412
to fight the fires raging up
and down Springwood Avenue.
927
00:46:03,456 --> 00:46:06,198
- We go down there where
the, like the fire engine
928
00:46:06,241 --> 00:46:09,592
and the truck, and we
used to have a tiller man
929
00:46:09,636 --> 00:46:11,072
which is in the
back of the truck,
930
00:46:11,116 --> 00:46:12,291
and he'd steer the back
931
00:46:12,334 --> 00:46:15,207
and the front guy
would steer the front.
932
00:46:15,250 --> 00:46:18,558
And that poor bastard,
whoever it was in that tiller,
933
00:46:18,601 --> 00:46:21,735
you know, they'd throw
piles of bricks at him,
934
00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:24,825
everything, it just, I
mean, it was pitiful.
935
00:46:24,869 --> 00:46:27,219
Yeah, and how you come
out alive was beyond me.
936
00:46:27,262 --> 00:46:29,569
- I'm sitting on my
porch looking at this,
937
00:46:29,612 --> 00:46:32,311
and all of a sudden,
all the fires,
938
00:46:32,354 --> 00:46:34,269
after about an hour and a half,
939
00:46:34,313 --> 00:46:36,228
we're looking, I said,
dad, look at that.
940
00:46:36,271 --> 00:46:40,406
Rats runnin' down the street,
lice and rats and rodents
941
00:46:40,449 --> 00:46:43,104
just comin' down, runnin'
away from the fires.
942
00:46:43,148 --> 00:46:44,845
- [Big Joe Henry] Police
from seven surrounding towns
943
00:46:44,889 --> 00:46:47,413
rushed to Asbury's aid
as the trouble began
944
00:46:47,456 --> 00:46:49,850
to spread to Neptune
with broken windows
945
00:46:49,894 --> 00:46:52,200
and a robbery at
the Neptune dinner.
946
00:46:52,244 --> 00:46:54,420
- I remember that day very well,
947
00:46:54,463 --> 00:46:57,249
coming over here because
everybody was concerned
948
00:46:57,292 --> 00:46:59,120
about The Upstage club, I mean,
949
00:46:59,164 --> 00:47:01,383
all the buildings in
the area were burning,
950
00:47:01,427 --> 00:47:03,646
especially to one
block west of here,
951
00:47:03,690 --> 00:47:05,257
the whole block was burning.
952
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:07,912
- The heat from Bankers,
the furniture store,
953
00:47:07,955 --> 00:47:11,263
you could feel it at the
front of The Upstage.
954
00:47:11,306 --> 00:47:14,222
You could feel it, I was
on the roof of The Upstage,
955
00:47:14,266 --> 00:47:15,745
you could feel it.
956
00:47:15,789 --> 00:47:17,704
- My grandfather was on the roof
957
00:47:17,747 --> 00:47:22,274
with a shotgun and
watching all of the chaos
958
00:47:22,317 --> 00:47:23,623
take place below.
959
00:47:23,666 --> 00:47:26,278
- The weirdest thing,
he had a friend of his
960
00:47:26,321 --> 00:47:28,280
from Philadelphia who just
happened to be in town
961
00:47:28,323 --> 00:47:31,370
who played Scottish bagpipes.
962
00:47:31,413 --> 00:47:34,852
And he went up on the roof
and played the bagpipes
963
00:47:34,895 --> 00:47:38,638
while this, we could hear
gunshots and flames going up.
964
00:47:38,681 --> 00:47:39,944
- And I remember
guys that, you know,
965
00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:43,861
I used to think were
very nice, sweet guys,
966
00:47:43,904 --> 00:47:47,473
gettin' riffles and
standing on the roof.
967
00:47:48,996 --> 00:47:52,217
Like it was hunting
season, you know.
968
00:47:53,783 --> 00:47:56,743
It got weird for a minute there.
969
00:47:56,786 --> 00:48:00,747
- I was sitting on the
stairs by the front door,
970
00:48:04,272 --> 00:48:08,320
and some dude opened the
door with a lit Molotov,
971
00:48:08,363 --> 00:48:10,844
and I pointed my
shotgun at his head,
972
00:48:10,888 --> 00:48:15,893
and I said just go away,
and he did [laughs].
973
00:48:17,329 --> 00:48:18,634
- [Big Joe Henry] By
Tuesday, the commuter train
974
00:48:18,678 --> 00:48:21,507
from New York was skipping
the Asbury station,
975
00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:24,423
Jersey Central Power and
Light had cut off power
976
00:48:24,466 --> 00:48:27,426
to a six-block area
around Springwood Avenue,
977
00:48:27,469 --> 00:48:30,690
and the protesters presented
a list of 22 demands
978
00:48:30,733 --> 00:48:33,345
to Mayor Mattice,
including the removal
979
00:48:33,388 --> 00:48:36,000
of City Magistrate
Eugene Capibianco.
980
00:48:36,043 --> 00:48:38,785
- There are multiple things
that could have caused it.
981
00:48:38,828 --> 00:48:40,004
When you live in
a city like this
982
00:48:40,047 --> 00:48:43,529
where it's 40%
black and there's a,
983
00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:46,358
not enough employment
for our youth
984
00:48:46,401 --> 00:48:48,926
and there's so many social ills
985
00:48:48,969 --> 00:48:51,624
that would have to be corrected.
986
00:48:51,667 --> 00:48:53,495
- [Big Joe Henry] And
then 100 New Jersey
987
00:48:53,539 --> 00:48:57,021
State Troopers joined the
fray and shut it all down.
988
00:48:57,064 --> 00:48:59,719
- Troopers makin' sure
that you did not get
989
00:48:59,762 --> 00:49:01,547
across Main Street.
990
00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:06,595
- Right here at Memorial
Drive and Springwood Avenue,
991
00:49:07,770 --> 00:49:10,382
seemed like the whole
community was lined up.
992
00:49:10,425 --> 00:49:12,862
And they had bricks
and bottles and stuff,
993
00:49:12,906 --> 00:49:16,475
and as we were running,
they were throwing
994
00:49:17,824 --> 00:49:21,349
over our heads at the
oncoming police officers.
995
00:49:21,393 --> 00:49:23,003
- Everybody was
there who had a gun
996
00:49:23,047 --> 00:49:25,397
and protect Asbury
Park from the riots
997
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,269
going from the West
Side to the East Side.
998
00:49:28,313 --> 00:49:31,925
- The Asbury police at the
time were pretty aggressive,
999
00:49:31,969 --> 00:49:34,449
you know, for this area.
1000
00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:37,365
- As we were running
along Springwood Avenue,
1001
00:49:37,409 --> 00:49:39,933
the police were shooting,
they were shooting,
1002
00:49:39,977 --> 00:49:42,588
and we thought that they
were shooting pellets,
1003
00:49:42,631 --> 00:49:45,591
but a young man that was
running with me got shot,
1004
00:49:45,634 --> 00:49:47,985
he got hit in the
leg with the .38,
1005
00:49:48,028 --> 00:49:51,423
and it went through
his leg, hit an artery.
1006
00:49:51,466 --> 00:49:52,990
I borrowed a woman's petticoat,
1007
00:49:53,033 --> 00:49:56,863
she ripped her slip, and I
made a tourniquet out of that,
1008
00:49:56,906 --> 00:49:59,474
and I actually saved his life.
1009
00:50:00,606 --> 00:50:02,825
- It truly was ugly,
you know, I can remember
1010
00:50:02,869 --> 00:50:05,741
the State Troopers, two in
the front, two in the back,
1011
00:50:05,785 --> 00:50:08,353
and they got this guy
squashed in the middle.
1012
00:50:08,396 --> 00:50:10,746
Pulled him over,
guy took his keys,
1013
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:13,619
opened up the truck
loaded with gasoline,
1014
00:50:13,662 --> 00:50:16,404
Molotov cocktails,
everything, I was like,
1015
00:50:16,448 --> 00:50:21,453
these Troopers annihilated
these guys, they pulverized 'em.
1016
00:50:22,628 --> 00:50:25,805
- You're hearing about
people being accosted
1017
00:50:25,848 --> 00:50:29,461
by the state police and
put in trunks of cars,
1018
00:50:29,504 --> 00:50:32,812
and you're scared,
everybody's scared,
1019
00:50:32,855 --> 00:50:35,815
you don't wanna go out, you
don't wanna walk the streets.
1020
00:50:35,858 --> 00:50:38,948
You can smell fire,
smoke everywhere,
1021
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:45,564
you know, that was a very
dark, very dark time.
1022
00:50:45,607 --> 00:50:47,174
- [Big Joe Henry] When
the smoke cleared,
1023
00:50:47,218 --> 00:50:49,916
eight big buildings had been
completely destroyed by fire,
1024
00:50:49,959 --> 00:50:53,398
75% of the businesses on
Springwood Avenue were damaged
1025
00:50:53,441 --> 00:50:55,704
and closed, never to reopen.
1026
00:50:56,618 --> 00:51:00,405
[mournful instrumental music]
1027
00:51:08,413 --> 00:51:10,458
- All the citizens
of Asbury Park
1028
00:51:10,502 --> 00:51:13,113
have been irreparably damaged.
1029
00:51:13,157 --> 00:51:17,378
I observe that the burnings
were indiscriminate.
1030
00:51:18,727 --> 00:51:21,774
Many black businesses were
burned, as well as white.
1031
00:51:21,817 --> 00:51:25,560
It took no great judgment
for me to conclude
1032
00:51:28,868 --> 00:51:31,392
that this is a disaster area.
1033
00:51:32,219 --> 00:51:33,525
- [Reporter]
Whatever happens now,
1034
00:51:33,568 --> 00:51:36,571
Asbury Park will never
again be the same.
1035
00:51:36,615 --> 00:51:38,573
This small but tragically
typical ghetto,
1036
00:51:38,617 --> 00:51:41,924
the rioting has meant a venting
of long-simmering anger,
1037
00:51:41,968 --> 00:51:44,188
a desperate expression
of frustration.
1038
00:51:44,231 --> 00:51:45,972
The people of Asbury
Park's West Side
1039
00:51:46,015 --> 00:51:48,148
don't feel much
like talking now.
1040
00:51:48,192 --> 00:51:50,759
They too are shocked and worried
1041
00:51:50,803 --> 00:51:54,067
about the chances for a
really better tomorrow.
1042
00:51:54,111 --> 00:51:55,895
Jeff Kamen, NBC news.
1043
00:51:57,201 --> 00:51:59,203
- Some of the people
lived on Springwood Avenue
1044
00:51:59,246 --> 00:52:03,903
above the stores, and it
was like slumlord, you know.
1045
00:52:03,946 --> 00:52:06,775
They just got tired, they
say, well if you tear it down,
1046
00:52:06,819 --> 00:52:08,777
they got to build
us something new,
1047
00:52:08,821 --> 00:52:10,605
they gotta build it up.
1048
00:52:10,649 --> 00:52:12,738
They wouldn't have any
idea that it was gonna
1049
00:52:12,781 --> 00:52:15,088
be like this now,
what it is now.
1050
00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:18,135
- They were living in
terrible conditions,
1051
00:52:18,178 --> 00:52:21,050
so they burnt it
down, and it was,
1052
00:52:23,227 --> 00:52:25,446
you know, really mind-boggling
1053
00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:28,884
that it happened in our
little corner of the world.
1054
00:52:28,928 --> 00:52:32,627
You had seen it in Detroit
and Newark and like that,
1055
00:52:32,671 --> 00:52:34,760
but in Asbury Park, it
just seemed so strange,
1056
00:52:34,803 --> 00:52:36,936
but it was understandable.
1057
00:52:38,285 --> 00:52:42,159
- It was just a phenomena,
it was, sort of a tired
1058
00:52:43,508 --> 00:52:46,859
of being sick and
tired kinda thing,
1059
00:52:46,902 --> 00:52:49,601
and they exhibited
it, their anger
1060
00:52:49,644 --> 00:52:52,604
and their frustration
in a violent way.
1061
00:52:52,647 --> 00:52:55,128
- When it happened in Asbury,
it didn't surprise me.
1062
00:52:55,172 --> 00:52:56,956
Growin' up in the
late 60's, you see,
1063
00:52:56,999 --> 00:52:59,915
I remember the marches,
I remember graphic images
1064
00:52:59,959 --> 00:53:01,874
of water hoses down in Alabama.
1065
00:53:01,917 --> 00:53:04,616
When Martin Luther King was
killed and Bobby Kennedy,
1066
00:53:04,659 --> 00:53:07,053
and I remember the rise of
the Black Panther Party.
1067
00:53:07,096 --> 00:53:09,142
When they shot the
kids at Kent State,
1068
00:53:09,186 --> 00:53:10,535
I remember seeing
that on television,
1069
00:53:10,578 --> 00:53:12,058
I was like, what are they doing?
1070
00:53:12,101 --> 00:53:13,494
What are they doing
to these people?
1071
00:53:13,538 --> 00:53:15,627
- It was a sad moment
in the city's history,
1072
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:20,066
but it probably needed to
happen, it needed to happen.
1073
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:22,982
- [Big Joe Henry] And
the town of Asbury Park
1074
00:53:23,025 --> 00:53:25,245
was started on a steep
and destructive spiral
1075
00:53:25,289 --> 00:53:26,638
which would bring
it over the course
1076
00:53:26,681 --> 00:53:28,988
of the next several
decades to a state
1077
00:53:29,031 --> 00:53:31,120
of complete urban blight.
1078
00:53:32,644 --> 00:53:35,516
- When the riots happened,
everything closed up.
1079
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,171
Took the wind out of
everybody's sails.
1080
00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:41,087
- Many of us that
grew up in this town
1081
00:53:41,130 --> 00:53:45,222
went to either the Boys
Club or any number of places
1082
00:53:45,265 --> 00:53:49,226
where we didn't know
race issues at that time,
1083
00:53:49,269 --> 00:53:51,184
and it was a rude
awakening in many cases,
1084
00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:53,055
because for a lot
of those people,
1085
00:53:53,099 --> 00:53:57,712
they were living those issues
every day of their life.
1086
00:54:00,019 --> 00:54:03,718
[ominous instrumental music]
1087
00:54:09,289 --> 00:54:11,683
- Not everybody on the
West Side participated
1088
00:54:11,726 --> 00:54:14,686
in the riots, but it seemed
that everybody had to pay
1089
00:54:14,729 --> 00:54:16,078
for the problems that existed.
1090
00:54:16,122 --> 00:54:18,559
They weren't involved,
but they found it hard
1091
00:54:18,603 --> 00:54:21,562
to find jobs, they were
considered to be trouble-makers,
1092
00:54:21,606 --> 00:54:23,651
even though they might
have tried to help out,
1093
00:54:23,695 --> 00:54:25,914
even after the riots,
they were looked upon
1094
00:54:25,958 --> 00:54:28,090
as being violent individuals,
1095
00:54:28,134 --> 00:54:31,050
and individuals that
couldn't be trusted.
1096
00:54:31,093 --> 00:54:32,660
- I don't know if they
were being punished,
1097
00:54:32,704 --> 00:54:35,881
but just the money
factor was not there.
1098
00:54:35,924 --> 00:54:40,581
The investors decided not to
invest in that particular area,
1099
00:54:40,625 --> 00:54:43,715
and it made the people
very, very disheartened.
1100
00:54:43,758 --> 00:54:46,761
But they just felt that
we were being ostracized
1101
00:54:46,805 --> 00:54:50,156
and really, the West
Side was just there.
1102
00:54:52,114 --> 00:54:56,728
The riots really, really
turned Springwood Avenue
1103
00:54:56,771 --> 00:54:59,818
and the West Side outside down.
1104
00:54:59,861 --> 00:55:03,300
We lost all of the
stores and the atmosphere
1105
00:55:04,953 --> 00:55:09,131
and the ability to really enjoy
ourselves on the West Side.
1106
00:55:09,175 --> 00:55:11,220
I guess loss, a lost art,
1107
00:55:13,179 --> 00:55:16,051
as far as the music
scene was concerned.
1108
00:55:16,095 --> 00:55:18,750
- And I think that has
a long-term impact,
1109
00:55:18,793 --> 00:55:23,058
in fact, individuals
who grew up in that era,
1110
00:55:23,102 --> 00:55:24,973
they don't even
have the memories
1111
00:55:25,017 --> 00:55:27,933
of what it used to be,
that is their life,
1112
00:55:27,976 --> 00:55:31,066
that's all they
know, is the void
1113
00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:33,808
of the West Side of Asbury Park.
1114
00:55:36,028 --> 00:55:37,551
- [Male Speaker 2]
Asbury Park went through
1115
00:55:37,595 --> 00:55:40,119
what a lot of cities went
through during that time period,
1116
00:55:40,162 --> 00:55:42,208
taking the educational
system down
1117
00:55:42,251 --> 00:55:45,037
and the property values down
was probably the main thing
1118
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,388
that started Asbury into
its downward spiral.
1119
00:55:48,432 --> 00:55:50,738
Did the riots play a factor?
1120
00:55:50,782 --> 00:55:51,783
Yes they did.
1121
00:55:51,826 --> 00:55:53,350
Did they ruin Springwood Avenue?
1122
00:55:53,393 --> 00:55:54,742
Yes they did.
1123
00:55:54,786 --> 00:55:56,396
Could the city have
recovered from it?
1124
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:57,789
Yes it could've.
1125
00:55:57,832 --> 00:55:59,530
- What really kept
Asbury Park down
1126
00:55:59,573 --> 00:56:03,360
was the greed, it was
the corruption, it
was the disrespect.
1127
00:56:03,403 --> 00:56:05,318
There were really
some basic politics
1128
00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:08,669
played in Asbury Park, of
corruption and control.
1129
00:56:08,713 --> 00:56:11,716
[smooth folk music]
1130
00:56:14,196 --> 00:56:17,722
You had all sorts of
shenanigans going on.
1131
00:56:17,765 --> 00:56:20,202
Families members for
generations being hired,
1132
00:56:20,246 --> 00:56:22,988
not because of qualifications
or because of what
1133
00:56:23,031 --> 00:56:24,250
they could bring to the city,
1134
00:56:24,293 --> 00:56:26,121
but just because of
those connections.
1135
00:56:26,165 --> 00:56:28,341
So it really was
the old-fashioned,
good-ole-boy network.
1136
00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:32,432
- In the early 80's, the
city concocted a scheme,
1137
00:56:34,216 --> 00:56:36,349
they're gonna sell
the entire beachfront.
1138
00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:39,439
- Asbury Park used to have
the most grand theaters
1139
00:56:39,483 --> 00:56:40,832
at the Jersey Shore.
1140
00:56:40,875 --> 00:56:43,400
The Mayfair was torn
down over, what,
1141
00:56:43,443 --> 00:56:46,185
a tax dispute between
the city and the owner.
1142
00:56:46,228 --> 00:56:47,795
- The guy that was gonna buy it
1143
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:49,406
had no construction experience,
1144
00:56:49,449 --> 00:56:51,190
no development
experience, he was a,
1145
00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:53,235
quote, financial planner.
1146
00:56:53,279 --> 00:56:56,151
- [Ed] And then you had the
revenue from the parking meters
1147
00:56:56,195 --> 00:57:00,286
evaporating in between
collection and the bank account.
1148
00:57:00,329 --> 00:57:01,461
- I'll make a long story short,
1149
00:57:01,505 --> 00:57:03,332
they were gonna sell
him every building
1150
00:57:03,376 --> 00:57:05,204
from the power plant to casino
1151
00:57:05,247 --> 00:57:06,988
to all the pavilions,
the Convention Hall,
1152
00:57:07,032 --> 00:57:11,036
every building on the
beachfront, one million dollars.
1153
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:14,735
- People dismantled this town
and put it in their pockets
1154
00:57:14,779 --> 00:57:16,998
at the expense of other people.
1155
00:57:17,042 --> 00:57:19,740
[explosions]
1156
00:57:19,784 --> 00:57:21,307
- [Big Joe Henry]
Despite the hurdles,
1157
00:57:21,350 --> 00:57:24,745
there were occasional sparks
of life along the boardwalk.
1158
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:27,052
In the 80's, local
builder Henry Vaccaro
1159
00:57:27,095 --> 00:57:29,750
led an attempt to
revitalize the waterfront.
1160
00:57:29,794 --> 00:57:31,883
- [Vaccaro] I'm the guy that
started the re-development,
1161
00:57:31,926 --> 00:57:34,755
and we brought Danny
Devito to Asbury,
1162
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:36,191
he had the world
premier of his movie
1163
00:57:36,235 --> 00:57:37,976
Throw Mama from the
Train at the Berkeley
1164
00:57:38,019 --> 00:57:40,457
Carterwood Hotel,
and then he had
1165
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,241
the premier across the
street at the Paramount,
1166
00:57:42,284 --> 00:57:46,245
I mean, this was, it
was, it was good times.
1167
00:57:46,288 --> 00:57:47,551
- [Big Joe Henry] But
a lost summer season
1168
00:57:47,594 --> 00:57:50,467
due to a sewage spill
and the SNL crisis
1169
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:53,861
bankrupted Vaccaro
and his partners.
1170
00:57:53,905 --> 00:57:57,299
- We had the period of time
between the 80's and 90's,
1171
00:57:57,343 --> 00:58:00,259
which is 10, 20 years
even after the riots,
1172
00:58:00,302 --> 00:58:03,523
where it's very
barren, it's void.
1173
00:58:03,567 --> 00:58:08,136
There's nothing to reach
for, there's a void of music,
1174
00:58:09,486 --> 00:58:14,229
there's a void of purpose,
this spirit is broken.
1175
00:58:14,273 --> 00:58:16,493
- [Big Joe Henry] Asbury
continued its long death spiral
1176
00:58:16,536 --> 00:58:20,540
until only one light remained
lit on the Asbury shore,
1177
00:58:20,584 --> 00:58:23,108
the famed Stone Pony.
1178
00:58:23,151 --> 00:58:24,588
[invigorating rock music]
1179
00:58:24,631 --> 00:58:26,546
- We were pretty
much, at that point,
1180
00:58:26,590 --> 00:58:29,941
the only business
that was operational
1181
00:58:29,984 --> 00:58:32,944
on the oceanfront,
but for the most part,
1182
00:58:32,987 --> 00:58:35,120
people weren't
coming to Asbury Park
1183
00:58:35,163 --> 00:58:39,080
for any other reason other
than to listen to music.
1184
00:58:39,124 --> 00:58:41,996
[upbeat R&B music]
1185
00:58:43,171 --> 00:58:45,522
- You got the gig
at the Stone Pony,
1186
00:58:45,565 --> 00:58:48,002
and that's where we started out.
1187
00:58:48,046 --> 00:58:51,223
Steven was working
with The Dovells,
1188
00:58:51,266 --> 00:58:53,965
an oldies act at the time,
plus he was also working
1189
00:58:54,008 --> 00:58:56,489
on the New Jersey Turnpike.
1190
00:58:56,533 --> 00:58:58,622
This is a guitar player,
magnificent guitar player,
1191
00:58:58,665 --> 00:59:01,538
songwriter, ranger,
brilliant musician,
1192
00:59:01,581 --> 00:59:03,235
and he's out there
with this Jack Henry,
1193
00:59:03,278 --> 00:59:05,150
and his hands
would be like this,
1194
00:59:05,193 --> 00:59:08,153
and he'd be covered in
asphalt, and I'm like,
1195
00:59:08,196 --> 00:59:10,590
Stevie, you can't
do that, you know.
1196
00:59:10,634 --> 00:59:13,985
And so eventually, he
joined the band that I had,
1197
00:59:14,028 --> 00:59:16,291
and we renamed it the Jukes,
1198
00:59:16,335 --> 00:59:18,467
and he kinda took
over direction.
1199
00:59:18,511 --> 00:59:21,166
- We changed the
sound of a bar band.
1200
00:59:21,209 --> 00:59:25,344
We had horns and almost, any
bar band has to have horns.
1201
00:59:25,387 --> 00:59:27,564
- The sound was good, you know,
1202
00:59:27,607 --> 00:59:30,654
they would give us free
drinks, which was key for me.
1203
00:59:30,697 --> 00:59:32,612
- I think we started on
whatever the worst night was,
1204
00:59:32,656 --> 00:59:34,658
you know, Monday
night or something.
1205
00:59:34,701 --> 00:59:36,311
- And we built a following,
and then they gave us
1206
00:59:36,355 --> 00:59:38,575
Sunday night, so we had
Tuesday, Thursday, and Sunday,
1207
00:59:38,618 --> 00:59:42,535
the three worst nights
of the week to play.
1208
00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:46,104
And we built up
quite an audience.
1209
00:59:46,147 --> 00:59:48,541
- It was like, you know,
50 people, and then 100,
1210
00:59:48,585 --> 00:59:53,198
and 200, and then they
fixed the roof [laughs].
1211
00:59:53,241 --> 00:59:55,287
So maybe, maybe we won't close.
1212
00:59:55,330 --> 00:59:57,376
- We had a vast
repertoire of songs,
1213
00:59:57,419 --> 01:00:01,598
people would come and jam,
Boz Scaggs came one night,
1214
01:00:01,641 --> 01:00:04,644
Jim Messina, Bruce
would come down and jam.
1215
01:00:04,688 --> 01:00:05,906
- [Steve] We had a
little notoriety,
1216
01:00:05,950 --> 01:00:07,081
had gotten a little publicity,
1217
01:00:07,125 --> 01:00:09,910
so Bruce hanging out
with us, you know,
1218
01:00:09,954 --> 01:00:11,346
brought a little
bit more attention,
1219
01:00:11,390 --> 01:00:14,219
and so all of a sudden,
we created a scene.
1220
01:00:14,262 --> 01:00:18,440
- And then they started to
have other acts come in,
1221
01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:21,618
you know, The Ramones
would come in, say,
1222
01:00:21,661 --> 01:00:25,926
or some band that had a
following somewhere else.
1223
01:00:27,058 --> 01:00:29,495
- Rolling Stone
magazine used to have,
1224
01:00:29,538 --> 01:00:32,280
the last page used
to be a live review.
1225
01:00:32,324 --> 01:00:36,371
Miles Davis at the
Fillmore, or you know,
1226
01:00:36,415 --> 01:00:38,286
Grateful Dead over
here, or that,
1227
01:00:38,330 --> 01:00:42,639
and for us, they did
Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays
1228
01:00:43,988 --> 01:00:47,295
at the Stone Pony
[laughs], the Jukes.
1229
01:00:47,339 --> 01:00:48,601
- It's the same
everywhere, I mean,
1230
01:00:48,645 --> 01:00:51,256
it's why local bands
remain important,
1231
01:00:51,299 --> 01:00:55,042
because huge part of the thing
that threads people together,
1232
01:00:55,086 --> 01:00:56,957
you know, you get
a night of that,
1233
01:00:57,001 --> 01:01:01,092
the next day, back at your
job, out on the street,
1234
01:01:01,135 --> 01:01:03,094
eh, it doesn't
seem quite as bad.
1235
01:01:03,137 --> 01:01:05,183
These things make a difference.
1236
01:01:05,226 --> 01:01:10,231
Everybody's broken, so we are
the fixer of broken things.
1237
01:01:11,406 --> 01:01:13,147
- And that residency
was pretty historic,
1238
01:01:13,191 --> 01:01:14,975
lookin' back on it now.
1239
01:01:15,019 --> 01:01:16,760
- And it became more of
an international place,
1240
01:01:16,803 --> 01:01:18,457
but at the beginning,
it was just another
1241
01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:23,505
knockdown bar in Asbury Park,
and it just grew from there.
1242
01:01:24,332 --> 01:01:27,074
♪ I don't wanna go
1243
01:01:27,118 --> 01:01:28,728
- Biggest difficulties
we had here
1244
01:01:28,772 --> 01:01:31,252
was the perceived
notion that Asbury Park
1245
01:01:31,296 --> 01:01:34,342
was very scary place,
it was violent,
1246
01:01:35,517 --> 01:01:37,084
it was a place you
didn't wanna come.
1247
01:01:37,128 --> 01:01:41,132
So we did a lot of events to
get people back into the city.
1248
01:01:41,175 --> 01:01:43,656
- As the Mayor of Asbury Park,
1249
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:48,182
I'm gonna declare Asbury
Park to be the music capital
1250
01:01:49,401 --> 01:01:51,011
of the Jersey Shore.
1251
01:01:51,055 --> 01:01:54,014
[smooth soul music]
1252
01:01:56,364 --> 01:01:59,063
- You could feel it, things
were startin' to happen again.
1253
01:01:59,106 --> 01:02:01,021
Most of the clubs were only
open on Saturday night,
1254
01:02:01,065 --> 01:02:02,719
then they were
doin' Friday night,
1255
01:02:02,762 --> 01:02:05,417
and then Thursday
night, and then Sunday,
1256
01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:07,506
you know, and it just
sort of came together,
1257
01:02:07,549 --> 01:02:11,249
but as it came together, the
people started coming back.
1258
01:02:11,292 --> 01:02:14,382
You could feel it, you could
feel that the music was back,
1259
01:02:14,426 --> 01:02:18,343
and it just, just as it always
carried the city before,
1260
01:02:18,386 --> 01:02:20,519
it just happened again.
1261
01:02:20,562 --> 01:02:25,045
- Right now the awesome
power of music is behind me.
1262
01:02:26,264 --> 01:02:30,355
In navarrio, Joe, Joe
Grushecky and The Houserockers.
1263
01:02:30,398 --> 01:02:35,273
[crowd cheers]
[intense rock music]
1264
01:02:35,316 --> 01:02:39,756
- Light of day opened up
slowly over the last 18 years.
1265
01:02:41,279 --> 01:02:42,759
One of the initial things,
and important things
1266
01:02:42,802 --> 01:02:45,631
that I think it did was,
it was another thing
1267
01:02:45,674 --> 01:02:49,243
that told people that there
was life in Asbury Park,
1268
01:02:49,287 --> 01:02:51,593
that people would come here.
1269
01:02:51,637 --> 01:02:54,858
- A lot of us, you know,
really are music experiences
1270
01:02:54,901 --> 01:02:56,729
is basically centered
on Asbury Park,
1271
01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:58,339
and we kind of migrated
here, we were drawn here
1272
01:02:58,383 --> 01:03:01,299
by it in a way, so we felt we
had to give something back.
1273
01:03:01,342 --> 01:03:03,518
Now we're probably bringing
in 10,000, 12,000 people
1274
01:03:03,562 --> 01:03:05,738
'cause we have a downtown
come for another.
1275
01:03:05,782 --> 01:03:08,436
- Asbury Park is
very important to us,
1276
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:13,093
because of the history and
because of the mythology
1277
01:03:13,137 --> 01:03:14,312
surrounding it.
1278
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,191
[crowd cheers]
1279
01:03:24,235 --> 01:03:26,411
♪ Nancy, who says
1280
01:03:26,454 --> 01:03:27,716
- [Big Joe Henry] At the
other end of the boardwalk,
1281
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,241
Shep Pettibone opened
the Paradise Nightclub,
1282
01:03:30,284 --> 01:03:32,112
followed by the Empress Hotel,
1283
01:03:32,156 --> 01:03:36,421
destinations designed to
cater to the LGBTQ community.
1284
01:03:36,464 --> 01:03:38,205
- Straight people
come into Paradise,
1285
01:03:38,249 --> 01:03:41,426
and they're like, wow, how did
I never know this was here?
1286
01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:44,255
That's definitely the
first thing they think of,
1287
01:03:44,298 --> 01:03:46,126
maybe not the first,
the first probably is,
1288
01:03:46,170 --> 01:03:47,780
just so you know, I'm not gay.
1289
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:50,435
Second thing is, wow,
this place is wonderful.
1290
01:03:50,478 --> 01:03:55,179
[crowd cheering]
[club music]
1291
01:03:55,222 --> 01:03:57,703
We are open for everyone,
everyone is welcome,
1292
01:03:57,746 --> 01:04:00,140
that's always been
part of Shep's motto.
1293
01:04:00,184 --> 01:04:02,882
I watched him give a
speech that he had a vision
1294
01:04:02,926 --> 01:04:06,581
to bring people together,
especially on a dance floor
1295
01:04:06,625 --> 01:04:10,759
where they can feel home
and free and not afraid.
1296
01:04:10,803 --> 01:04:12,239
That definitely
is what he created
1297
01:04:12,283 --> 01:04:15,199
when he bought and
opened Paradise.
1298
01:04:16,896 --> 01:04:20,160
- And it was amazing thing
in the first couple of years
1299
01:04:20,204 --> 01:04:23,903
of being here to have
that type of establishment
1300
01:04:23,947 --> 01:04:28,560
open and be a draw, and it
became a draw in and of itself,
1301
01:04:28,603 --> 01:04:29,909
like even though
nothing else was ready
1302
01:04:29,953 --> 01:04:33,652
for the people to
come, the people came.
1303
01:04:33,695 --> 01:04:37,264
- Everything else was
just floundering a bit,
1304
01:04:37,308 --> 01:04:40,833
that Empress Hotel found
a way to move forward,
1305
01:04:40,877 --> 01:04:43,314
and that Paradise,
the Paradise club
1306
01:04:43,357 --> 01:04:46,752
was the happening place,
and yes it was a gay club,
1307
01:04:46,795 --> 01:04:49,755
but I had fun
going there myself.
1308
01:04:49,798 --> 01:04:50,974
- The good thing about
Asbury, like I said,
1309
01:04:51,017 --> 01:04:52,627
it was a little bit of a city,
1310
01:04:52,671 --> 01:04:54,542
so the rules were a
little more wide open.
1311
01:04:54,586 --> 01:04:57,894
Yes it was a gay bar, the
people came across the tracks
1312
01:04:57,937 --> 01:05:01,680
either way a little bit, it
was just a little more urban
1313
01:05:01,723 --> 01:05:04,901
and slightly more sophisticated.
1314
01:05:04,944 --> 01:05:06,903
It was dangerous still,
I mean, it wasn't easy
1315
01:05:06,946 --> 01:05:09,862
for any of those
folks, but it was,
1316
01:05:11,646 --> 01:05:13,692
there were places
there for you to go.
1317
01:05:13,735 --> 01:05:18,349
That was, made Asbury
very, very, very unique.
1318
01:05:18,392 --> 01:05:22,527
- Asbury Park, New Jersey,
Jersey make some noise.
1319
01:05:22,570 --> 01:05:24,094
- I've said it a thousand times,
1320
01:05:24,137 --> 01:05:27,836
the gay community played a
huge part in saving this town.
1321
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,491
Great things are happening,
and when the gay community
1322
01:05:30,535 --> 01:05:32,972
decided they would set
up shop to some extent,
1323
01:05:33,016 --> 01:05:34,931
in downtown and Cookman
and all the rest of it,
1324
01:05:34,974 --> 01:05:37,542
and have all these galleries
and great restaurants,
1325
01:05:37,585 --> 01:05:38,760
it was a great thing.
1326
01:05:38,804 --> 01:05:40,762
- And then they took
it to the next level
1327
01:05:40,806 --> 01:05:44,505
because they've started
to invest in Asbury Park.
1328
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:46,681
And not just businesses,
actually a lot of 'em
1329
01:05:46,725 --> 01:05:49,902
are business owners
and actually residents.
1330
01:05:49,946 --> 01:05:53,950
- It got so low that it
was like an open space,
1331
01:05:53,993 --> 01:05:55,734
you know, it was an open city.
1332
01:05:55,777 --> 01:05:57,605
And the gay population come down
1333
01:05:57,649 --> 01:05:59,738
and begin to be real
creative in town
1334
01:05:59,781 --> 01:06:01,348
and bring the town back.
1335
01:06:01,392 --> 01:06:05,396
They had some musicians,
some artists come in,
1336
01:06:05,439 --> 01:06:07,572
and it was a place
where suddenly,
1337
01:06:07,615 --> 01:06:09,966
there was room to create.
1338
01:06:10,009 --> 01:06:11,750
The fact that that
was the foundation
1339
01:06:11,793 --> 01:06:15,406
of the new Asbury Park,
and that it's been able
1340
01:06:15,449 --> 01:06:18,409
to hold on to that
part of its identity
1341
01:06:18,452 --> 01:06:21,716
while being developed
is a great thing.
1342
01:06:23,675 --> 01:06:26,721
- I think pretty much in Asbury,
1343
01:06:26,765 --> 01:06:29,420
being gay is
tolerated everywhere.
1344
01:06:29,463 --> 01:06:31,596
Gay people came to this town,
1345
01:06:31,639 --> 01:06:34,425
renovated the beautiful
Victorian houses,
1346
01:06:34,468 --> 01:06:38,820
and put their flag up, one
of the first things they did.
1347
01:06:38,864 --> 01:06:41,432
- Am I proud of
that flag behind me?
1348
01:06:41,475 --> 01:06:43,738
I think it's an
important visual.
1349
01:06:43,782 --> 01:06:48,482
It's one of the things that,
to people who come to visit
1350
01:06:49,875 --> 01:06:52,617
who might be gay,
they get a sense,
1351
01:06:52,660 --> 01:06:55,011
they get an immediate
sense of community,
1352
01:06:55,054 --> 01:06:57,056
an immediate sense of welcoming.
1353
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,451
So I'm proud of it for
the message that it has,
1354
01:07:00,494 --> 01:07:02,018
especially in light
of some of the things
1355
01:07:02,061 --> 01:07:04,933
that have happened in the world.
1356
01:07:04,977 --> 01:07:07,501
I wanna make sure
that I have a symbol
1357
01:07:07,545 --> 01:07:11,766
that welcomes anybody that
wants to come to my town.
1358
01:07:11,810 --> 01:07:13,072
The two flags
always fly together
1359
01:07:13,116 --> 01:07:15,640
because you can't be
this without that.
1360
01:07:15,683 --> 01:07:19,513
[uplifting alternative music]
1361
01:07:34,398 --> 01:07:36,878
- There's been a rehabilitation,
1362
01:07:36,922 --> 01:07:39,533
if you will, of the East Side.
1363
01:07:39,577 --> 01:07:43,363
Simultaneously, there
should have been
1364
01:07:43,407 --> 01:07:45,670
the same thing going
on on the West Side,
1365
01:07:45,713 --> 01:07:48,499
but absolutely nothing
has really happened
1366
01:07:48,542 --> 01:07:49,848
or changed on the West Side.
1367
01:07:49,891 --> 01:07:52,111
There's no real
measurement, if you will,
1368
01:07:52,155 --> 01:07:56,855
of anything like what's
been already taken place
1369
01:07:56,898 --> 01:07:58,161
on the East Side.
1370
01:07:58,204 --> 01:08:00,598
- West Side is still in
dire need of development
1371
01:08:00,641 --> 01:08:04,036
and share in some
of the prosperity
1372
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,951
that come to the city.
1373
01:08:07,213 --> 01:08:10,869
You forget when
Springwood Avenue burned,
1374
01:08:10,912 --> 01:08:15,526
a tremendous loss of African
American culture in the city.
1375
01:08:15,569 --> 01:08:18,833
And that's never quite come back
1376
01:08:18,877 --> 01:08:22,098
the way it was at
one time, you know,
1377
01:08:22,141 --> 01:08:25,405
that'd be nice to
see at some point.
1378
01:08:25,449 --> 01:08:28,104
- Music moves,
and music unifies,
1379
01:08:29,192 --> 01:08:32,456
and music is the
soul of Asbury Park.
1380
01:08:33,587 --> 01:08:34,980
- [Big Joe Henry] In
a watershed moment,
1381
01:08:35,023 --> 01:08:38,418
music returned to the
West Side of Asbury Park.
1382
01:08:38,462 --> 01:08:40,768
- Tonight, the Asbury
Park Music Foundation
1383
01:08:40,812 --> 01:08:42,205
has the honor of
bringing you all
1384
01:08:42,248 --> 01:08:46,165
one of the most historical
concerts in over 40 years.
1385
01:08:46,209 --> 01:08:47,688
- [Big Joe Henry]
For the first time
1386
01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:49,734
since the death of
legendary Springwood Avenue,
1387
01:08:49,777 --> 01:08:51,823
a concert series was
held in a new park
1388
01:08:51,866 --> 01:08:54,042
where the Great
Cubas once stood,
1389
01:08:54,086 --> 01:08:56,088
the first public
music on the West Side
1390
01:08:56,132 --> 01:08:58,177
in more than four decades.
1391
01:08:58,221 --> 01:09:00,179
- Put your hands in
the air, come on!
1392
01:09:00,223 --> 01:09:03,878
[exciting soul music]
1393
01:09:03,922 --> 01:09:08,448
- We have five concerts out
at the park, jam packed.
1394
01:09:08,492 --> 01:09:10,755
Not only the people
from the West Side,
1395
01:09:10,798 --> 01:09:14,106
but even more maybe
came from elsewhere.
1396
01:09:15,934 --> 01:09:18,632
[crowd cheers]
1397
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:20,808
- [Big Joe Henry] And
although the death
1398
01:09:20,852 --> 01:09:22,245
of Springwood
Avenue has silenced
1399
01:09:22,288 --> 01:09:24,551
the world-renowned jazz
and blues of the West Side,
1400
01:09:24,595 --> 01:09:27,815
[upbeat gospel music]
1401
01:09:27,859 --> 01:09:31,515
the power of music lives
on in the community.
1402
01:09:31,558 --> 01:09:36,041
- Music, music is powerful
because it is therapeutic.
1403
01:09:36,084 --> 01:09:38,783
I know secular music has
a way of moving people,
1404
01:09:38,826 --> 01:09:40,915
but there's nothing
like the spirituals.
1405
01:09:40,959 --> 01:09:43,614
It is somethin' that
kept our people,
1406
01:09:43,657 --> 01:09:46,225
even during the very
difficult time in this country
1407
01:09:46,269 --> 01:09:48,793
as African Americans,
and it is somethin'
1408
01:09:48,836 --> 01:09:50,795
that holds us, that
keeps up even now.
1409
01:09:50,838 --> 01:09:54,015
[moving gospel music]
1410
01:09:57,802 --> 01:10:00,935
- This was a place where
Ella Fitzgerald sang
1411
01:10:00,979 --> 01:10:04,069
and B.B. King and
Duke Ellington,
1412
01:10:04,112 --> 01:10:06,202
the biggest, the greatest.
1413
01:10:06,245 --> 01:10:08,073
Can we bring that spirit back?
1414
01:10:08,116 --> 01:10:10,293
Well, then you'd have to bring
1415
01:10:10,336 --> 01:10:13,687
those kinds of people
back, you'd have to have
1416
01:10:13,731 --> 01:10:16,124
more Bruce Springsteens
walkin' the streets
1417
01:10:16,168 --> 01:10:18,779
of Asbury Park and
shakin' hands with people
1418
01:10:18,823 --> 01:10:21,652
and saying to those
on the East Side,
1419
01:10:21,695 --> 01:10:23,610
hey, why don't you bring
some of these people
1420
01:10:23,654 --> 01:10:25,525
over here from the
West Side and show 'em
1421
01:10:25,569 --> 01:10:27,919
what we got and
see what they got,
1422
01:10:27,962 --> 01:10:29,921
because they have
somethin' to offer.
1423
01:10:29,964 --> 01:10:34,273
- You have to proceed as if
problems can be resolved,
1424
01:10:36,841 --> 01:10:40,584
and as if the sun's gonna
rise in the morning,
1425
01:10:40,627 --> 01:10:43,717
and those better
days are waitin', so.
1426
01:10:43,761 --> 01:10:46,024
- Let me tell you
somethin', that same,
1427
01:10:46,067 --> 01:10:48,113
that same artistic
blood that ran
1428
01:10:48,156 --> 01:10:50,246
in the veins of the forerunners
1429
01:10:50,289 --> 01:10:52,770
are in their grandchild and
their great-grand children.
1430
01:10:52,813 --> 01:10:55,990
There's some very, very
talented people here,
1431
01:10:56,034 --> 01:10:58,993
still, just waiting
for an opportunity
1432
01:10:59,037 --> 01:11:01,169
to express their greatness.
1433
01:11:03,084 --> 01:11:06,087
[smooth rock music]
1434
01:11:11,702 --> 01:11:13,660
- [Big Joe Henry] In the
shadow of the legendary Upstage
1435
01:11:13,704 --> 01:11:16,837
stands the future of
music in Asbury Park,
1436
01:11:16,881 --> 01:11:19,623
the shiny, new
Lakehouse Studios.
1437
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:22,147
- You good?
1438
01:11:22,190 --> 01:11:23,366
- Mm-hmm.
- Alright.
1439
01:11:23,409 --> 01:11:25,672
We're ready, we're ready.
1440
01:11:27,065 --> 01:11:29,763
[tuneful guitar music]
- The kids are experts
1441
01:11:29,807 --> 01:11:33,071
in one thing only, what
they like [laughs].
1442
01:11:33,114 --> 01:11:34,681
You know?
1443
01:11:34,725 --> 01:11:37,031
And what do they
like, they like music.
1444
01:11:37,075 --> 01:11:39,077
- Power music is
alive at Lakehouse.
1445
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,036
The intention of Lakehouse
was to create a place
1446
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:46,084
to nurture young musicians
to out into the world
1447
01:11:47,128 --> 01:11:48,782
and sing their song.
1448
01:11:50,001 --> 01:11:52,830
What does it mean
to go to Lakehouse?
1449
01:11:52,873 --> 01:11:54,397
- It's really cool
there, actually,
1450
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:57,965
like, there're really cool
people there like this person
1451
01:11:58,009 --> 01:12:00,272
right here.
[laughter]
1452
01:12:00,316 --> 01:12:01,578
- The Lakehouse is so important,
1453
01:12:01,621 --> 01:12:06,060
what John has done there
is picked up the slack
1454
01:12:06,104 --> 01:12:10,238
where our government
has let us all down.
1455
01:12:10,282 --> 01:12:13,329
Because when I was a kid, there
were a lot of art programs,
1456
01:12:13,372 --> 01:12:15,331
there were a lot
of music programs,
1457
01:12:15,374 --> 01:12:17,768
things that exposed you to areas
1458
01:12:17,811 --> 01:12:21,293
that you might not
otherwise be exposed to.
1459
01:12:21,337 --> 01:12:24,775
- For me, from as early
as I can remember,
1460
01:12:24,818 --> 01:12:26,777
it was really about music.
1461
01:12:26,820 --> 01:12:31,347
Music changed my state,
literally changed my state.
1462
01:12:31,390 --> 01:12:34,698
It made life better,
and I was all in.
1463
01:12:36,003 --> 01:12:37,962
- Music saved my
life, I mean you know,
1464
01:12:38,005 --> 01:12:39,790
I don't know what I
would do without it,
1465
01:12:39,833 --> 01:12:43,794
I was raised in New York City,
actually in Queens, New York,
1466
01:12:43,837 --> 01:12:47,145
not a great neighborhood,
not a lot of ambition,
1467
01:12:47,188 --> 01:12:49,060
just drugs and gangs.
1468
01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:51,802
If it wasn't for music, I
wouldn't have any direction.
1469
01:12:51,845 --> 01:12:52,977
You're connecting to this,
1470
01:12:53,020 --> 01:12:53,978
I want you to connect
to the audience.
1471
01:12:54,021 --> 01:12:55,371
I see kids all the time, comin',
1472
01:12:55,414 --> 01:12:57,808
walkin' through our
doors, they're broken
1473
01:12:57,851 --> 01:13:01,202
they're you know, not
holdin' their heads up.
1474
01:13:01,246 --> 01:13:04,423
I guess out of place
at their school,
1475
01:13:04,467 --> 01:13:06,033
and they come to us at Lakehouse
1476
01:13:06,077 --> 01:13:08,166
and they find their niche,
they find their family,
1477
01:13:08,209 --> 01:13:10,429
they find their home,
they find their artistry,
1478
01:13:10,473 --> 01:13:13,171
creativity, all that,
man, just really turns
1479
01:13:13,214 --> 01:13:15,434
a person around, you
know, gives them direction
1480
01:13:15,478 --> 01:13:17,262
and a path to walk on.
1481
01:13:17,305 --> 01:13:21,266
[uplifting instrumental music]
1482
01:13:27,446 --> 01:13:30,362
We're gonna do somethin'
called a rock and roll ending.
1483
01:13:30,406 --> 01:13:31,189
You know what that is?
1484
01:13:31,232 --> 01:13:32,146
- Yes.
1485
01:13:32,190 --> 01:13:33,844
- What's a rock and roll ending?
1486
01:13:33,887 --> 01:13:34,714
Go ahead.
1487
01:13:36,281 --> 01:13:39,850
Power of music at Lakehouse
is also kids from different
1488
01:13:39,893 --> 01:13:42,940
neighborhoods, people
of different religions,
1489
01:13:42,983 --> 01:13:47,988
different nationalities,
social-economic upbringings,
1490
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,469
comin' together,
they're all here,
1491
01:13:50,513 --> 01:13:52,123
and they play in bands together,
1492
01:13:52,166 --> 01:13:54,255
and the only thing
they see is that
1493
01:13:54,299 --> 01:13:57,433
you're playing C chord,
I'm gonna play a C chord,
1494
01:13:57,476 --> 01:13:59,130
and that's how we align.
1495
01:13:59,173 --> 01:14:01,349
Here we go, one, two, three.
1496
01:14:02,438 --> 01:14:05,441
[chaotic rock music]
1497
01:14:19,542 --> 01:14:21,065
- [Big Joe Henry] Some
of the brightest lights
1498
01:14:21,108 --> 01:14:24,242
in Asbury Park are a group
of 10 and 11 year olds
1499
01:14:24,285 --> 01:14:26,287
called the Lakehouse
Junior Pros,
1500
01:14:26,331 --> 01:14:29,203
who've played more than
50 professional shows
1501
01:14:29,247 --> 01:14:31,467
since being formed in 2015.
1502
01:14:32,424 --> 01:14:34,818
[drumming]
1503
01:14:36,515 --> 01:14:38,561
- Jeremy's a star,
and when I say a star,
1504
01:14:38,604 --> 01:14:40,563
he has light in him.
1505
01:14:40,606 --> 01:14:44,218
He's humble, he
knows that, you know,
1506
01:14:44,262 --> 01:14:46,394
he can do some
damage on the drums,
1507
01:14:46,438 --> 01:14:48,484
but he never acts
that way, he comes in,
1508
01:14:48,527 --> 01:14:50,529
and he's ready to learn.
1509
01:14:50,573 --> 01:14:53,532
[drumming]
1510
01:14:53,576 --> 01:14:57,057
- I don't really care,
like, who people like,
1511
01:14:57,101 --> 01:15:01,279
like gay, lesbian, bi,
what skin color they are,
1512
01:15:01,322 --> 01:15:06,284
their religion really, all
that matters is practicing
1513
01:15:06,327 --> 01:15:08,852
and making a good
career out of music.
1514
01:15:08,895 --> 01:15:12,246
[enrapturing rock music]
1515
01:15:17,382 --> 01:15:22,082
- Everybody can relate
to like, a certain band.
1516
01:15:22,126 --> 01:15:26,130
And like, me and Jeremy,
we both love Blink-182.
1517
01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:30,830
And like, we don't
care that people say
1518
01:15:30,874 --> 01:15:33,354
that band's bad, and
that's how we bond,
1519
01:15:33,398 --> 01:15:37,141
'cause we both like it, so
it like brings us together.
1520
01:15:37,184 --> 01:15:40,318
[powerful rock music]
1521
01:15:42,581 --> 01:15:44,975
- Zakya walked, and I
always tell this story,
1522
01:15:45,018 --> 01:15:47,934
she walked through our
doors, she was nine I think,
1523
01:15:47,978 --> 01:15:49,240
not even, eight.
1524
01:15:50,981 --> 01:15:52,504
Not even four foot tall.
1525
01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:54,550
I asked her, I said,
what do you wanna play?
1526
01:15:54,593 --> 01:15:57,988
And she thought for a second
and she pointed at the bass.
1527
01:15:58,031 --> 01:16:00,294
And I said the bass, 'cause
nobody ever says the bass,
1528
01:16:00,338 --> 01:16:02,340
they wanna play drums,
they wanna sing lead,
1529
01:16:02,383 --> 01:16:04,560
you know, or rock
out on the guitar.
1530
01:16:04,603 --> 01:16:06,474
She wanted the bass,
I put it on her,
1531
01:16:06,518 --> 01:16:10,217
it was huge, and she's
been non-stop since.
1532
01:16:11,523 --> 01:16:12,959
- At first I was
like, oh my gosh,
1533
01:16:13,003 --> 01:16:14,178
oh my gosh, what I am doing,
1534
01:16:14,221 --> 01:16:15,353
oh my gosh, I'm not
gonna be on stage,
1535
01:16:15,396 --> 01:16:17,007
oh my gosh, what am
I, dah, dah, dah.
1536
01:16:17,050 --> 01:16:20,532
And now I just said, okay, hi,
and then I just keep playing.
1537
01:16:20,576 --> 01:16:21,664
- [Big Joe Henry]
And the Junior Pros
1538
01:16:21,707 --> 01:16:24,014
were invited to record
an original song
1539
01:16:24,057 --> 01:16:26,407
with some of the veterans
of The Upstage club.
1540
01:16:26,451 --> 01:16:28,235
- Uh oh, trouble's here.
1541
01:16:28,279 --> 01:16:31,369
[tuneful rock music]
1542
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:47,559
♪ Divin' deep in the city
1543
01:16:47,603 --> 01:16:51,389
♪ Though we knew there
was work to be done ♪
1544
01:16:51,432 --> 01:16:55,611
♪ On the boardwalk those
girls look so damn pretty ♪
1545
01:16:55,654 --> 01:16:59,919
♪ On the circuit those
machines came for us ♪
1546
01:16:59,963 --> 01:17:01,181
♪ Those poundin' hearts
1547
01:17:01,225 --> 01:17:02,356
- [Big Joe Henry]
And the Junior Pros
1548
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,228
were invited to play
that original song
1549
01:17:04,271 --> 01:17:06,317
at the Prudential
Center in Newark
1550
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,189
to a sold-out
audience of 16,000.
1551
01:17:09,233 --> 01:17:11,583
♪ Dreams were
waiting to scream ♪
1552
01:17:11,627 --> 01:17:15,065
♪ Were playing in
time to our hearts ♪
1553
01:17:15,108 --> 01:17:19,243
♪ There mad dogs and guns
that were waiting their turn ♪
1554
01:17:19,286 --> 01:17:23,377
♪ As a legacy waiting on tape
1555
01:17:23,421 --> 01:17:25,379
But the biggest dream
comes true moment
1556
01:17:25,423 --> 01:17:28,339
for the Junior Pros
came just a week later
1557
01:17:28,382 --> 01:17:30,254
when they were invited
to play a sold-out
1558
01:17:30,297 --> 01:17:32,648
Paramount Theatre
in Asbury Park.
1559
01:17:32,691 --> 01:17:34,606
On the bill with The
Upstage veterans,
1560
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:37,391
Southside Johnny and
the Asbury Jukes,
1561
01:17:37,435 --> 01:17:39,959
Little Steven and the
Disciples of Soul,
1562
01:17:40,003 --> 01:17:43,093
and one very special
surprise guest.
1563
01:17:43,136 --> 01:17:44,572
[exciting rock music]
1564
01:17:44,616 --> 01:17:47,488
♪ She finally got the
letter she was dreaming of ♪
1565
01:17:47,532 --> 01:17:50,753
♪ Johnny wrote and told
her he had fell in love ♪
1566
01:17:50,796 --> 01:17:54,147
♪ As soon as he was married
he would bring her back ♪
1567
01:17:54,191 --> 01:17:57,455
♪ And build a big mansion
by the railroad track ♪
1568
01:17:57,498 --> 01:18:00,632
♪ So every time you heard
that locomotive roar ♪
1569
01:18:00,676 --> 01:18:04,157
♪ She'd be standing there
waiting in the kitchen door ♪
1570
01:18:04,201 --> 01:18:09,206
♪ Bye, bye, bye, bye
1571
01:18:11,164 --> 01:18:16,169
♪ Bye, bye, bye, bye
1572
01:18:17,780 --> 01:18:22,132
♪ Bye bye Johnny,
goodbye Johnny B. Goode ♪
1573
01:18:22,175 --> 01:18:25,744
- I think Asbury Park is
a microcosm of the world
1574
01:18:25,788 --> 01:18:29,574
because there's so much
here, and there are,
1575
01:18:29,617 --> 01:18:32,272
there's this
polarized Asbury Park
1576
01:18:32,316 --> 01:18:34,710
with an East Side
and a West Side,
1577
01:18:34,753 --> 01:18:37,495
and I think in anything in life,
1578
01:18:37,538 --> 01:18:40,541
having those two poles,
putting them together
1579
01:18:40,585 --> 01:18:43,675
is when the electricity and
the opportunity happens.
1580
01:18:43,719 --> 01:18:47,331
[invigorating rock music]
1581
01:19:29,416 --> 01:19:31,636
♪ If I had a dollar baby
1582
01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:34,073
♪ Every broken heart
1583
01:19:34,117 --> 01:19:35,771
- Music does bring
people together.
1584
01:19:35,814 --> 01:19:39,209
It is a bond that
stood us in good stead
1585
01:19:39,252 --> 01:19:41,820
when we were
musicians, teenagers.
1586
01:19:41,864 --> 01:19:44,736
♪ Blues is my business
1587
01:19:44,780 --> 01:19:47,391
♪ And business is good
1588
01:19:47,434 --> 01:19:50,350
- It's that universal
heartbeat, right,
1589
01:19:50,394 --> 01:19:54,180
that universal dance
of life, you know,
1590
01:19:54,224 --> 01:19:56,443
that we all have in common.
1591
01:20:04,277 --> 01:20:06,366
- It was just a
way of being part
1592
01:20:06,410 --> 01:20:09,108
of something bigger
than you are.
1593
01:20:09,152 --> 01:20:11,415
I think people need that
when things are bad.
1594
01:20:11,458 --> 01:20:15,419
♪ When I woke up this mornin'
Lucille was not in sight ♪
1595
01:20:15,462 --> 01:20:18,683
♪ Asked my friends about her
but all their lips were tight ♪
1596
01:20:18,726 --> 01:20:23,731
♪ Lucille, please come
back where you belong ♪
1597
01:20:25,864 --> 01:20:30,826
♪ Ain't done nothin' to you,
I don't wanna do you no harm ♪
1598
01:20:34,917 --> 01:20:37,876
[catchy rock music]
1599
01:21:15,958 --> 01:21:19,352
- Your job is to
provide proof of life
1600
01:21:19,396 --> 01:21:23,487
to people that they're
simply not alone,
1601
01:21:23,530 --> 01:21:26,490
that there is an us that is real
1602
01:21:26,533 --> 01:21:29,797
and that gets called
up when the band leader
1603
01:21:29,841 --> 01:21:32,583
counts off, one,
two, three, four.
1604
01:21:32,626 --> 01:21:35,673
There is a community
that's brought forth,
1605
01:21:35,716 --> 01:21:38,894
there's a commonality that
gets pulled out of people
1606
01:21:38,937 --> 01:21:43,899
that means something, has a
direct result on their lives
1607
01:21:45,465 --> 01:21:48,468
and their life when they
take it out of the building.
1608
01:21:55,693 --> 01:21:57,216
- The East Side
and the West Side
1609
01:21:57,260 --> 01:21:58,652
can learn somethin'
from the musicians
1610
01:21:58,696 --> 01:22:02,004
in Asbury Park, that we're
able to come together
1611
01:22:02,047 --> 01:22:06,225
and work on harmony once
we just not think about
1612
01:22:07,357 --> 01:22:10,534
color and those things
that separate us,
1613
01:22:10,577 --> 01:22:11,927
well, let's think
about some things
1614
01:22:11,970 --> 01:22:15,234
that bring us together,
the things that cause joy
1615
01:22:15,278 --> 01:22:17,323
and happiness in our lives.
1616
01:22:17,367 --> 01:22:18,890
And if we can sing together,
1617
01:22:18,934 --> 01:22:20,370
we can definitely work together.
1618
01:22:20,413 --> 01:22:21,937
♪ Go go
1619
01:22:21,980 --> 01:22:23,982
♪ Go Johnny, Johnny B. Goode
1620
01:22:24,026 --> 01:22:26,724
- [Male Speaker 3] One more
more time folks, everybody.
1621
01:22:26,767 --> 01:22:28,726
♪ Go go
1622
01:22:28,769 --> 01:22:32,338
♪ Go Johnny go go
1623
01:22:32,382 --> 01:22:35,254
♪ Go Johnny go go
1624
01:22:35,298 --> 01:22:38,605
- They always say it's
darkest right before dawn,
1625
01:22:38,649 --> 01:22:41,347
so we've been through
the darkest hour.
1626
01:22:41,391 --> 01:22:43,262
We're not where we need
to be, but you know,
1627
01:22:43,306 --> 01:22:46,744
we're definitely headed
in that direction.
1628
01:22:54,795 --> 01:22:57,407
Asbury is never going back.
1629
01:22:57,450 --> 01:23:01,846
The only thing we're gonna
be is the new Asbury Park.
1630
01:23:01,889 --> 01:23:04,849
[crowd cheers]
1631
01:23:04,892 --> 01:23:07,504
[laughter]
1632
01:23:07,547 --> 01:23:08,896
- [Male Speaker 4]
Anybody wanna go home?
1633
01:23:08,940 --> 01:23:10,594
- [Crowd] No!
1634
01:23:10,637 --> 01:23:12,596
[upbeat soul music]
1635
01:23:12,639 --> 01:23:15,773
- [Male Speaker 4] I was
hopin' you'd say that.
1636
01:23:15,816 --> 01:23:16,904
Come on baby.
1637
01:23:17,862 --> 01:23:18,732
Alright!
1638
01:23:21,387 --> 01:23:23,520
Everybody clap your hands!
1639
01:23:26,653 --> 01:23:31,658
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1640
01:23:35,010 --> 01:23:40,015
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1641
01:23:44,845 --> 01:23:47,761
♪ I know the time
is getting late ♪
1642
01:23:47,805 --> 01:23:52,679
♪ But I don't want to go home
1643
01:23:52,723 --> 01:23:56,074
♪ I'm in no hurry
baby, time can wait ♪
1644
01:23:56,118 --> 01:23:59,686
♪ 'Cause I don't
want to go home ♪
1645
01:23:59,730 --> 01:24:00,861
♪ Listen
1646
01:24:00,905 --> 01:24:04,952
♪ Listen to the
man sing his song ♪
1647
01:24:04,996 --> 01:24:07,955
♪ I don't want to go home
1648
01:24:07,999 --> 01:24:09,174
♪ Baby
1649
01:24:09,218 --> 01:24:13,091
♪ I don't mind to
stay all night long ♪
1650
01:24:13,135 --> 01:24:16,051
♪ I don't want to go home
1651
01:24:16,094 --> 01:24:17,835
♪ Because
1652
01:24:17,878 --> 01:24:22,666
♪ I know we had to try
1653
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:26,670
♪ To reach up and
touch the sky, baby ♪
1654
01:24:26,713 --> 01:24:29,412
♪ Whatever happened
to you and I ♪
1655
01:24:29,455 --> 01:24:34,460
♪ Baby, I don't
want to go home ♪
1656
01:24:35,548 --> 01:24:38,551
♪ Look at all the
people saying, well ♪
1657
01:24:38,595 --> 01:24:41,772
♪ I don't want to go home
1658
01:24:41,815 --> 01:24:44,383
♪ I know why, 'cause
in their minds ♪
1659
01:24:44,427 --> 01:24:46,733
♪ They've all been
there, that's right ♪
1660
01:24:46,777 --> 01:24:49,127
♪ I don't want to go home
1661
01:24:49,171 --> 01:24:51,129
♪ And one more thing
1662
01:24:51,173 --> 01:24:54,915
♪ I know the words to
the song are real ♪
1663
01:24:54,959 --> 01:24:59,572
♪ I don't want to go home
♪ Yes I do, baby
1664
01:24:59,616 --> 01:25:03,098
♪ I know it's talking
about the way I feel now ♪
1665
01:25:03,141 --> 01:25:06,753
♪ I don't want to go home
1666
01:25:08,190 --> 01:25:12,542
♪ I know we had to try
♪ I know, I know, I know
1667
01:25:12,585 --> 01:25:14,979
♪ To reach up and
touch the sky baby ♪
1668
01:25:15,022 --> 01:25:16,981
♪ To try
1669
01:25:17,024 --> 01:25:19,897
♪ Whatever happened
to you and I, baby ♪
1670
01:25:19,940 --> 01:25:22,987
♪ I don't want to go home
1671
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:25,729
♪ Now dig this
1672
01:25:25,772 --> 01:25:30,125
♪ I want to hear
people laughing ♪
1673
01:25:30,168 --> 01:25:33,867
♪ And having a good time, baby
1674
01:25:33,911 --> 01:25:38,916
♪ I want to know why she
told me she had to go ♪
1675
01:25:41,788 --> 01:25:46,793
♪ Why did she leave
me so sad and lonely ♪
1676
01:25:48,491 --> 01:25:53,496
♪ Oh, somebody tell me why,
tell me why, tell me why ♪
1677
01:25:55,933 --> 01:25:57,935
♪ I know it's time to go
1678
01:25:57,978 --> 01:26:00,981
♪ I don't wanna go home
1679
01:26:01,025 --> 01:26:05,812
♪ Brother, play the blues
for me soft and low ♪
1680
01:26:05,856 --> 01:26:07,727
♪ I don't wanna go home
1681
01:26:07,771 --> 01:26:10,817
♪ 'Cause I gotta go
1682
01:26:10,861 --> 01:26:15,039
♪ I know we had to try
♪ No, no, no, no, no
1683
01:26:15,082 --> 01:26:19,217
♪ To reach up and
touch the sky ♪
1684
01:26:19,261 --> 01:26:22,525
♪ What happened to
you and I, darlin' ♪
1685
01:26:22,568 --> 01:26:24,527
♪ I don't wanna go home
1686
01:26:24,570 --> 01:26:26,833
♪ Somebody tell me, please
1687
01:26:26,877 --> 01:26:28,922
♪ I don't wanna go home
1688
01:26:28,966 --> 01:26:31,011
♪ 'Cause I gotta know
1689
01:26:31,055 --> 01:26:33,231
♪ I don't wanna go home
1690
01:26:33,275 --> 01:26:36,887
♪ I don't wanna go
1691
01:26:36,930 --> 01:26:40,934
♪ I don't wanna go back home
1692
01:26:40,978 --> 01:26:45,200
♪ 'Cause there ain't
nobody with me back home ♪
1693
01:26:45,243 --> 01:26:50,205
♪ I said to give me one more
♪ I don't wanna go home
1694
01:26:51,728 --> 01:26:53,643
♪ I'll tell ya
♪ I don't wanna go home
1695
01:26:53,686 --> 01:26:57,603
♪ One more for the road
♪ I don't wanna go home
1696
01:26:57,647 --> 01:26:59,997
♪ For that long,
long lonely road ♪
1697
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,825
♪ I don't wanna go home
1698
01:27:01,868 --> 01:27:04,219
♪ For that long,
long lonely road ♪
1699
01:27:04,262 --> 01:27:05,829
♪ I don't wanna go home
1700
01:27:05,872 --> 01:27:08,527
♪ For that long,
long lonely road ♪
1701
01:27:08,571 --> 01:27:09,963
♪ I don't wanna go home
1702
01:27:10,007 --> 01:27:12,618
♪ For that long, long,
long, long lonely road ♪
1703
01:27:12,662 --> 01:27:14,664
♪ I don't wanna go home
1704
01:27:14,707 --> 01:27:16,840
♪ For that long, long,
long, long lonely road ♪
1705
01:27:16,883 --> 01:27:20,147
♪ I don't wanna go home
1706
01:27:20,191 --> 01:27:21,105
♪ Bartender
1707
01:27:21,148 --> 01:27:22,324
♪ I don't wanna go home
1708
01:27:22,367 --> 01:27:25,065
♪ Give me one more
for the road ♪
1709
01:27:25,109 --> 01:27:26,676
♪ I don't wanna go home
1710
01:27:26,719 --> 01:27:29,200
♪ For that long,
long lonely road ♪
1711
01:27:29,244 --> 01:27:31,202
♪ I don't wanna go home
1712
01:27:31,246 --> 01:27:34,858
["I Don't Wanna Go Home"]
1713
01:28:20,773 --> 01:28:21,861
- This is it.
1714
01:28:24,647 --> 01:28:25,691
Last man out.
1715
01:28:27,650 --> 01:28:31,654
It's the end of Upstage,
time for somethin' new.
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